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| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:12] <tessier> Hi Roy! We emailed about a week ago about our plans to upgrade the power in the datacenter. Everything is back up now. Sorry for the inconvenience! | Apr 05 09:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:55] <schestowitz_bed2> cheers | Apr 05 09:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynco/status/584681059163308033 | Apr 05 11:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynco: @schestowitz war profiteers with no experience in interrogations, terrorists or AQ are the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen | Apr 05 11:39 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/584682737249845249 | Apr 05 11:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: As in '#Mexico' @ #Ayotzinapa, #Hondura's #DeathSquads kill 4 #StudentProtesters, including a 13-yr-old http://t.co/pyg1rrnAwn ♺@schestowitz | Apr 05 11:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsws.org | Honduran death squads kill four student protesters, including a 13-year-old - World Socialist Web Site | Apr 05 11:51 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynco/status/584684446164463617 | Apr 05 11:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynco: @schestowitz "We've continued to try and redact our way out of our past mistakes..." | Apr 05 11:51 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.thetowntalk.com/story/opinion/2015/03/31/james-robbins-us-always-wrong-nuclear-ability/70688636/ | Apr 05 12:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "India's 1974 nuclear test came as a surprise too, as did Pakistan's in 1998 and North Korea's in 2006." | Apr 05 12:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thetowntalk.com | James S. Robbins: U.S. always wrong on nuclear ability [ http://ur1.ca/k43ph ] | Apr 05 12:15 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/584692486796259328 | Apr 05 12:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@angrymofo: @schestowitz That 'emergency' landing looked very convenient to me too. | Apr 05 12:25 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe testing the reaction... like Russia allegedly does in the northern seas... | Apr 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cayman http://www.caymanreporter.com/2015/04/02/from-constitutional-monarchy-to-republic-barbados-and-jamaica/ | Apr 05 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.caymanreporter.com | From Constitutional Monarchy to Republic: Barbados and Jamaica [ http://ur1.ca/k43ro ] | Apr 05 12:28 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.wkrg.com/story/28709174/new-fallen-heroes-memorial-at-battleship-park | Apr 05 12:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.wkrg.com | New Fallen Heroes Memorial at Battleship Park [ http://ur1.ca/k43rz ] | Apr 05 12:29 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Nothig for the fallen Iraqis | Apr 05 12:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The Fallen Heroes Memorial will honor those who sacrificed in the 9-11 attacks and throughout the subsequent years fighting the war on terror." | Apr 05 12:30 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/584700211341164544 | Apr 05 12:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz I totally agree! They realized that stuff has far broader appeal than history and so the corporate overlords sold them out. | Apr 05 13:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 05 17:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 05 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Please give example of such research, then." | Apr 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | @tzafrir@wk3.org , it seems the only 'research' you're willing to accept is that which supports your predetermined conclusion, or perhaps, as @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) alludes, is properly bought and paid for. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Eric Holt-Giménez who graduated in agricultural development at UC Davis and earned his doctorate in agroecology from UC Santa Cruz, questions the headlong rush to use GMOs. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "The assertion on the part of pro-GMO scientists that because we haven't seen any problems with GMO crops over the last 20 years, that it means there are not any – that is just remarkably unscientific," said Holt-Giménez, who is also executive director of Food First, a social and agricultural advocacy group. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "No one has ever done a serious demographic study on GMOs' effect on full populations," he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Holt-Giménez said he believes genetically modified crops are no silver bullet solution for salty and thirsty soil or for pest control. "Building resilience into the ecosystem is the only way to address the problem," he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | That resilience has to do with crop diversity, including tree cover on farms and soil and water conservation as has been applied to many small farms in Central America, he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "These farms tripled, and in some cases quadrupled, yields – and did so without GMOs," he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "GMOs don't produce food for poor people," Holt-Giménez said. "They feed cows and they feed cars, so the track record of ending hunger is not well-established." | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Edward Ortiz, "Debate over genetically modified organisms precedes UCD conference," Sacramento Bee, March 17, 2013, http://www.sacbee.com/2013/03/17/5269338/debate-over-genetically-modified.html | Apr 05 17:23 |
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| schestowitz | But in a just-released paper published in the peer-reviewed Environmental Sciences Europe, Chuck Benbrook, research professor at Washington State University's Center for Sustaining Agriculture and Natural Resources, shreds that claim. He found that Monsanto's Roundup Ready technology, which dominates corn, soy, and cotton farming, has called forth a veritable monsoon of herbicides, both in terms of higher application rates for | Apr 05 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.sacbee.com | Debate over genetically modified organisms precedes UCD conference | The Sacramento Bee The Sacramento Bee [ http://ur1.ca/k4509 ] | Apr 05 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | Roundup, and, in recent years, growing use of other, more-toxic herbicides. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Benbrook found that overall, GMO technology drove up herbicide use by 527 million pounds, or about 11 percent, between 1996 (when Roundup Ready crops first hit farm fields) and 2011. But it gets worse. For several years, the Roundup Ready trait actually did meet Monsanto's promise of decreasing overall herbicide use—herbicide use dropped by about 2 percent between 1996 and 1999, Benbrook told me in an interview. But then weeds | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | started to develop resistance to Roundup, pushing farmers to apply higher per-acre rates. In 2002, farmers using Roundup Ready soybeans jacked up their Roundup application rates by 21 percent, triggering a 19 million pound overall increase in Roundup use. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Tom Philpott, "How GMOs Unleashed a Pesticide Gusher," Mother Jones, October 3, 2012, http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/10/how-gmos-ramped-us-pesticide-use | Apr 05 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.motherjones.com | How GMOs Unleashed a Pesticide Gusher | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/k450b ] | Apr 05 17:23 | |
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| schestowitz | That is the rhetoric. That’s also Mr. Bush’s argument for the new case he started against Europe in the WTO. He argued that, by not eating GM foods, Europeans are somehow creating hunger in the South. Unfortunately, no lie is bigger than the fact that genetic engineering will be a solution to hunger. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | In fact, it’s becoming a cause for hunger, it’s becoming the cause for poverty. In India, since globalization introduced new rules for the seed sector, farmers are having to pay so much for totally unreliable seed, which needs huge amounts of chemicals. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | They’re getting into debt, they’re spending a hundred thousand rupees per acre for production and earning ten thousand rupees at the end of the year. They get into ninety thousand rupees of debt every year. Twenty thousand farmers have committed suicide as a result of this. The genetic engineered crops themselves are actually not performing because they have been engineered to use more chemicals, not to produce more yields. They | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | have what is called a yield drag. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | When they brought their BT cotton to India, Monsanto announced that this genetically engineered cotton would double the yield, and bring a doubling of incomes. Well, the first year of cultivation showed that this was totally false. There was a 90% decline of yields and increase of farm losses of rupees 6 to 7,000 per acre. Monsanto has just been banned from expanding its cultivation in India for the extremely bad performance of its | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | seed. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | In the third world Monsanto is causing hunger, suicides and poverty. In fact, genetic engineering is not affordable in India. Our peasants are poor, and we can’t afford to play the profit-making games of corporations at the cost of polluting nature and biodiversity and impoverishing already marginalized farmers. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Paolo Scopacasa, "Vandana Shiva – In Her Own Words," Ecoworld, March 6, 2004, http://www.ecoworld.com/government/vandana-shiva-in-her-own-words.html | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ecoworld.com | Vandana Shiva – In Her Own Words | Environmental News, Articles & Information | Global Warming News | EcoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/k450g ] | Apr 05 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | "tzafir can you post some study about safety of gmo food?! Than, can you explain what safety is in your point of view?! Make more bad quality food to increase demografic population (i.e. selection of people resistent to herbicide or other cancerogenic substances) meanwhile creating desertification?! Diversification is the only thing we need. GMO can work just on laboratory, where all the other variable (light, water, ecc) are under | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | control. Well made Compost is bacteria/mycelium bounded and is all plants need." | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Regulators check that GM foods are "substantially equivalent" to their conventional counterparts, to detect any negative unintended consequences.[4][5][6] New protein(s) that differ from conventional food proteins or anomalies that arise in the substantial equivalence comparison require further toxicological analysis.[6] | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | "The World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the British Royal Society, and every other respected organization that has examined the evidence has come to the same conclusion: consuming foods containing ingredients derived from GM crops is no riskier than consuming the same foods containing ingredients from crop plants modified by conventional plant improvement techniques." – | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | American Association for the Advancement of Science[1] | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | In 1999, Chesson warned that substantial equivalence testing "could be flawed in some cases" and that current safety tests could allow harmful substances to enter the human food supply.[112] The same year Millstone, Brunner and Mayer argued that the standard was a pseudo-scientific product of politics and lobbying that was created to reassure consumers and aid biotechnology companies to reduce the time and cost of safety testing. They | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | suggested that GM foods have extensive biological, toxicological and immunological tests and that substantial equivalence should be abandoned.[113] This commentary was criticized for misrepresenting history,[114] for distorting existing data and poor logic.[115] Kuiper claimed that it oversimplified safety assessments and that equivalence testing involves more than chemical tests, possibly including toxicity testing.[116][7] Keler and | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Lappe supported Congressional legislation to replace the substantial equivalence standard with safety studies.[117] | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Kuiper examined this process further in 2002, finding that substantial equivalence does not measure absolute risks, but instead identifies differences between new and existing products. He claimed that characterizing differences is properly a starting point for a safety assessment[7] and "the concept of substantial equivalence is an adequate tool in order to identify safety issues related to genetically modified products that have a | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | traditional counterpart". Kuiper noted practical difficulties in applying this standard, including the fact that traditional foods contain many toxic or carcinogenic chemicals and that existing diets were never proven to be safe. This lack of knowledge re conventional food means that modified foods may differ in anti-nutrients and natural toxins that have never been identified in the original plant, possibly allowing harmful changes to | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | be missed.[7] In turn, positive modifications may also be missed. For example, corn damaged by insects often contains high levels of fumonisins, carcinogenic toxins made by fungi that travel on insects' backs and that grow in the wounds of damaged corn. Studies show that most Bt corn has lower levels of fumonisins than conventional insect-damaged corn.[118][119] Workshops and consultations organized by the OECD, WHO, and FAO have worked | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | to acquire data and develop better understanding of conventional foods, for use in assessing GM foods.[105][120] | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | SO, THE POINT IS: | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | *t0: "CONVENTIONAL AGRICULTURE" IS A DEADING PROCESS. | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | *t1: "DON'T WORRY WE HAVE GMO". | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | *t3: "GMO ARE REALLY BAD, MONSANTO, WHATEVER..". | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | *t4: "PEER REVIEW STUDY SHOW THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GMO AND CONVENTIONAL AGRICULTURE, SO THEY ARE SAFE" | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | ...So magically we would pass from a bad way of farming to a bad way of farming with some different genes trait. Really nice human evolution. This is the change we want. scientific metafisic | Apr 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | There's a real problem here in that @tzafrir@wk3.org is posting claims about the state of the field that do not in any way, shape, or form reflect the state of the field. It's possible to argue for GMOs and the Green Revolution, but he just denies that there's any substantive argument against them, hiding behind the demand for "data" and citing cherry-picked studies from Wikipedia (!) as if they represented a consensus. | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | It simply ain't so just because Wikipedia says it. You have to actually read the sources cited to see if they say what the article claims they do. And if you don't have access to those articles, go to a university library. | Apr 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | Enrico, links already posted (the references to the statement from Wikipedia). I did not cherry-pick. read the article to see the context. | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Heck, you don't even bother to relate to the contents of those references. There's a clear scientific consensus on this point. | Apr 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | tzafrir, i ask you some study and data that confirm the safety of GM products. Statistics that says there is not significative difference between GM crops and conventional (AKA chemical) agriculture doesn't mean they are safe. it means that (IN THE WAY THE STUDY IS DESIGN) they couldn't find any statistical relevance. From the same wikipedia page you post it: | Apr 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz | While some groups and individuals have called for more human testing of GM food,[170] multiple obstacles complicate such studies. The General Accounting Office (in a review of FDA procedures requested by Congress) and a working group of the Food and Agricultural and World Health organizations both said that long-term human studies of the effect of GM food are not feasible. The reasons included lack of a plausible hypothesis to test, | Apr 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz | lack of knowledge about the potential long-term effects of conventional foods, variability in the ways humans react to foods and that epidemiological studies were unlikely to differentiate modified from conventional foods, which come with their own suite of unhealthy characteristics.[171][172] | Apr 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Additionally, ethical concerns guide human subject research. These mandate that each tested intervention must have a potential benefit for the human subjects, such as treatment for a disease or nutritional benefit (ruling out, e.g., human toxicity testing).[173] Kimber claimed that the "ethical and technical constraints of conducting human trials, and the necessity of doing so, is a subject that requires considerable attention."[174] | Apr 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Food with nutritional benefits may escape this objection. E.g., GM rice has been tested for nutritional benefits, namely, increased levels of Vitamin A.[175][176][177] | Apr 05 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#Human_studies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#Human_studies | Apr 05 17:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Genetically modified food controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k4516 ] | Apr 05 17:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#Health | Apr 05 17:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Genetically modified food controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k4517 ] | Apr 05 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/ http://www.scientology.org/ | Apr 05 17:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theflatearthsociety.org | The Flat Earth Society | Apr 05 17:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.scientology.org | Scientology Church & Religion - What is Scientology? | Apr 05 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | The moment one connects GMO critics to Scientology and such I know it's a debate not worth having; it would be trying to convince someone who already relegated disputes over science pertaining to genetics to "conspiracy theory"/religion (magic) and equates it with nutjobs. Waste of time. | Apr 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz | For those who did not read the link, Enric points to the section Human studies in the Wikipedia article. It is a subsection of the section Health that begins with the following text: "A broad scientific consensus holds that currently marketed GM food poses no greater risk than conventional food.[1][2][3][8][88][100][101][102]". I will not bother linking to all of the sources there. | Apr 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Sources [171] and [172] are from 2002 and 2000, respectively. Naturally at the time a lot less information was available. Now we actually have more information. Source [170] is from an odd-ball source. It talks in the name of "Physicians and Scientists" but doesn't name even one. This is the evidence that "some groups have called for" whatever condition. Some groups have called for us to stop denying that the earth is flat or to | Apr 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz | acknowledge we were created by aliens. | Apr 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz | On the next paragraph this pattern continues. Source [174] voices concerns. But this is an article of 2003. Source [173] refers to clinical trials. Have you ever seen clinical trials done for food? There are alternative methods. We also have 15 years of data. Next you have three sources that support using one specific food (even though it has not gone through clinical trials). | Apr 05 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5880557 | Apr 05 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From #surveillance comes #censorship (DiFI) http://rt.com/usa/246701-feinstein-internet-book-ban/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/03/sen-feinstein-wants-diy-bomb-making-guide-anarchists-cookbook-off-the-internet/ | Apr 05 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "What about banning the FBI providing that book to hobbyist terrorists? That would be feasible." | Apr 05 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> rt.com | Senator Feinstein calls for internet ban of Anarchist Cookbook and Inspire magazine — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/k459j ] | Apr 05 18:08 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 06 07:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 06 07:26 | |
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| schestowitz__ | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊), you didn't actually read what I wrote. My problem is that GMO opponents simply fail to bring to the table (or the post, whatever) decent arguments and facts. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Cronos, that article from 1997 calls Roundup a "cash cow" for Monsanto. This was indeed the case up until 2000, when the patent for it expired. The article assumes, for some odd reason, that Monsanto would continue to dominate the production of glyphosate. It doesn't. It is still one of the major vendors, but there are many of them. | Apr 06 07:26 |
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| schestowitz__ | And the trouble here is that the burden of proof seems to rest entirely on GMO opponents. Even if the applied measures of safety are dubious. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | GMO, it seems, is innocent until proven guilty. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | This is the kind of attitude that helps to explain the anti-vaxxers. They don't trust the authorities, because they don't really believe that the authorities care about the health of their children. | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "I give up. You constantly ignore my arguments. You keep ignoring a large body of empirical evidence. I won't convince you. Such an attitude on your side helps explain the anti-vaxxers: they keep ignoring the existing body of evidence." | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | @tzafrir you can always support your beliefs and vote with your wallet, buy as much food with GMO as possible. | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Well, that if you manage to know what food has GMO, the last I read was that companies like Monsanto do not want us to know and are lobbying for laws about that. | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | What exactly do you mean by 'empirical' evidence? The kind that's been bought and paid for? | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Or maybe, returning to the original meaning of the word, people's experience? | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Somehow, I'm pretty sure you mean the former and not the latter. Which introduces a dissonance: Can you really believe that Monsanto and other big agriculture corporations give a damn about our health? Can you really believe that they aren't trying to extract every last nickel from farmers, even poor ones in India? | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | No, of course, not. But you trust in the market to remedy any such concerns. Which for anyone sane, is yet another dissonance. | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | One of my best friends is a professor in a field where companies often try to approach him with a bribe to 'prove' the safety of things. Remember "Thank you for smoking?" | Apr 06 07:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5880750 | Apr 06 07:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Honduran death squads kill four student protesters, including a 13-year-old http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/01/hond-a01.html "signs of brutal torture." | Apr 06 07:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The propaganda campaign led by Obama/Hilary (around the time of the Haiti Crisis) in favor of the military coup was disgusting." | Apr 06 07:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsws.org | Honduran death squads kill four student protesters, including a 13-year-old - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/k48oj ] | Apr 06 07:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5881011 | Apr 06 07:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Obama Administration Improperly Claims Secrecy Power Over Videos of Former Guantanamo Prisoner’s Force-Feeding http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2015/04/02/obama-administration-improperly-claims-secrecy-power-over-videos-of-former-guantanamo-prisoners-force-feeding/ | Apr 06 07:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""...most transparent administration ever."" | Apr 06 07:33 |
| schestowitz__ | They say so, and it must be true.... | Apr 06 07:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Obama Administration Improperly Claims Secrecy Power Over Videos of Former Guantanamo Prisoner’s Force-Feeding | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/k48ot ] | Apr 06 07:34 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/alshabib/status/585098679054245890 https://twitter.com/alshabib/status/585098868917866496 | Apr 06 15:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alshabib: @schestowitz @webmink Link is under the software page. Now it's also on the homepage. Also, we're on github, unsurprisingly. | Apr 06 15:18 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alshabib: @schestowitz @webmink in the wise words of Ben Harper "so before you knock it try it first". Just sayin'. | Apr 06 15:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/delia68869/status/585180781565181952 | Apr 06 20:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@delia68869: @schestowitz Meet MobiWear, a Convenient Wearable Case That Gives You the Flexibility To Capture Moments That Matter!http://t.co/fO5R0VVbCo | Apr 06 20:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mobiwear.crowdfundingcooker.com | mobiwear | Apr 06 20:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888707 | Apr 07 00:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are those adhering to Free software principles; then there are those who 'mix and match'; latter cannot proclaim to be FOSS champions | Apr 07 00:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | #ubuntu | Apr 07 00:18 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888641 | Apr 07 00:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The problems with iOS 8 have stretched on for months. Come on, Apple!" http://www.computerworld.com/article/2905717/ios-8-hate.html for those into brands rather than tech | Apr 07 00:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.computerworld.com | iOS 8 hate | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/k4do4 ] | Apr 07 00:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow. Nice troll headline and blast of ads for Computerworld with no real content other than one persons unique issues with his iOS devices. | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm not a fanboy but if I can have six members of my family on three generations of hardware experince none of his issues Apple doesn't have a "problem" | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Also the multiple software release he whines about are feature releases, not bug fixes. Except for the 6/6+ comment none of the other fixes were for completely broken launches. | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, IDG does that a lot | Apr 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888488 | Apr 07 00:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@salinger3@diaspora-fr.org: #Snowden featured in an episode of Last Week Tonight with #John_Oliver on Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XEVlyP4_11M | Apr 07 00:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/k4dog ] | Apr 07 00:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Blocked in UK" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | try : | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | → https://www.youtube.com/v/XEVlyP4_11M | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | or | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | → https://wa.proxfree.com/permalink.php?url=s54aaHA%2FaGsaD5vHs0QZLcUclS%2FcUxrnNZwEMCiA0I%2F5KhQoZ%2F9yEUqruQK28734PlwI47F6Au05lAxDy3Tflw%3D%3D&bit=1 | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Apr 07 00:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wa.proxfree.com | ProxFree: Error! [ http://ur1.ca/k4dok ] | Apr 07 00:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | "@Dr.Roy : http://off.li/jhjql" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-offliberty.com | Offliberty - evidence of offline life | Apr 07 00:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Hola" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | "Plugin for firefox" | Apr 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Tried all the above links, but everything failed. Well done, Google (YouTube) and HBO..... | Apr 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 07 00:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 07 00:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_and_Health%3a_Report_of_the_Advisory_Committee_to_the_Surgeon_General_of_the_United_States | Apr 07 00:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Smoking and Health: Report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k4dp6 ] | Apr 07 00:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | The requirements you have for safety are simply too harsh. Many new varieties and even new species were introduced without passing such tests. In fact, new varieties are constantly being developed. | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | And no, it doesn't take genetic modification to make a new variety potentially harmful. | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Furthermore, why limit this just to foods? Has the new model of bed been tested in clinical trial not to cause some sort of back pains? What about the keyboard of the new laptop? And the screen of the cellular phone? | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Comparing this to smoking won't really help. In the late 1950s there was already a clear scientific consensus that smoking is harmful. Tobacco companies managed to keep an appearance of difference of opinions the way some companies fuel global warming deniers today. | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | "The difference about your examples and GMO food is that companies like Monsanto do not want us to know and choose whether to consume or not GMO food. At least I can choose the bed I like knowing more or less how is it build, and unlike food I can live fine without goods like tobacco." | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Tobacco and pesticides/GMO are both harmful in various ways (more than one), but a lot of people know when they smoke (even second hand) whereas they don't know what chemicals/genetics are in their food | Apr 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888862 | Apr 07 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: such amazing diversity on jeopardy...  #diversity #jeopardy #gameshow #africanamerican #history #category | Apr 07 00:28 | |
| schestowitz__ | "should they start affirmitive action for game shows too? ;)" | Apr 07 00:28 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | The claim that our standards for safety are too harsh assumes that GMO foods are indeed comparable to other new varieties. | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | But tomatoes can't be bred to acquire animal genes. You have to genetically engineer them to do that. And the scientific method cannot tell us in any reasonable length of time just how important such engineering is. | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | But most of all, people with autonomy can choose their risks. Increasingly we have no choice about GMO. I might not like a particular variety of carrot and I might be really fussy about mattresses, but with these I still have a choice. With GMO, I'm being denied the autonomy that is my right. | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888488 | Apr 07 08:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@salinger3@diaspora-fr.org: #Snowden featured in an episode of Last Week Tonight with #John_Oliver on Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XEVlyP4_11M | Apr 07 08:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/k4dog ] | Apr 07 08:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | "offliberty failed ?" | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "Why LastWeekTonight is blocked in UK ? strange." | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Copyrights. They hate their audience. | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I can download as MP3, I think... | Apr 07 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888458 | Apr 07 08:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stupid lawyers call GNU/RMS text "Open source Manifesto" http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=9bb2af23-7b03-445a-bef4-deb1917633a9 shows how ignorant they are | Apr 07 08:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Many people on here I've seen call Ubuntu "GNU/Linux"" | Apr 07 08:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.lexology.com | Open source Manifesto turns 30 - Lexology [ http://ur1.ca/k4dhf ] | Apr 07 08:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | Ubuntu comes with loads of GNU programs | Apr 07 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5890374 | Apr 07 13:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For those claiming that desktop effects are just eye candy or complicated to use, my wife loves and relies on #kwin effects. #kde | Apr 07 13:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | "and she has a Nerd husband... makes some things easier... ;-)" | Apr 07 13:00 |
| schestowitz__ | No longer needed much... KDE is easy to use | Apr 07 13:01 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891135 | Apr 07 13:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In collusion between #hbo and #google #youtube the @iamjohnoliver interview of #Snowden is blocked to the UK. Like Great Firewall of China. | Apr 07 13:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | "yup- I found that- unreachable from here. Things are not improving are they?" | Apr 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:04] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891163 | Apr 07 13:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@anonymiss@despora.de: ### MOST OF THE #WEB IS INVISIBLE TO #GOOGLE. HERE'S WHAT IT CONTAINS Source: http://www.popsci.com/dark-web-revealed #internet #darknet | Apr 07 13:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.popsci.com | Most Of The Web Is Invisible To Google. Here's What It Contains | Popular Science | Apr 07 13:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | [13:04] <schestowitz__> 'huhu...' | Apr 07 13:11 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:10] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891135 | Apr 07 13:11 |
| schestowitz__ | United Kingdom no longer a source of envy to the Saudi Kingdom... | Apr 07 13:11 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891154 | Apr 07 13:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Obama Arms Bazaar: Record Sales, Troubling Results http://www.lobelog.com/the-obama-arms-bazaar-record-sales-troubling-results/ #war president, Nobel #peace prize | Apr 07 13:13 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.lobelog.com | The Obama Arms Bazaar: Record Sales, Troubling Results « LobeLog [ http://ur1.ca/k4hin ] | Apr 07 13:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""Once the United States supplies weaponry to a nation or group, it has very little control over how that weaponry is used. U.S. arms supplied to anti-Soviet fighters in Afghanistan ended up in the hands of violent jihadis, some of whom ended up as founding members of al-Qaeda." | Apr 07 13:13 |
| schestowitz__ | 'Oops'... better send more weapons there to fight al-Qaeda now. Let me check the Register. Yes, we can expand national debt/roof a little more... | Apr 07 13:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891093 | Apr 07 18:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Jo_Tovey/status/585132443063156736 | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Jo_Tovey: Edward Snowden has been removed. http://t.co/2DYqBElN4L | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | "In Tibet, when the Chinese cracked down on pictures of the Dalai Lama, people would put empty picture frames into their shopping and home windows..." | Apr 07 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891120 | Apr 07 18:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/585141723191500800 | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JesselynRadack: And like any free & open #democratic society, gov quickly has #Snowden statue covered #USgoodAtCoverUps http://t.co/udUcOf8VJW | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes - but - statues are usually put up for dead people. Thank goodness he's alive, well and free." | Apr 07 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Not so free, he has no passport | Apr 07 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5890374 | Apr 07 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "I like Xubuntu...maybe I give something else a try...one day...if I find a Nerd... :-)" | Apr 07 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891345 | Apr 07 18:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### European Court condemns #Italy for ' #torture' in Diaz raid (ANSA) - Strasbourg, April 7 - The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday condemned Italy and called for legislative changes after "torture" during a police raid in July 2001 on anti-globalization protestors at the Diaz school during a Group of Eight summit in Genoa. The court said it condemned Italy not only for what happened to the d | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by ii_try@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5378e50470ca010e110c.jpg | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by ii_try@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5378e50470ca010e110c.jpg | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | "and the consequence of this will be... what?" | Apr 07 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5894741 | Apr 08 01:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Apr 08 01:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893894 | Apr 08 01:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's not just #fbi in US; in #uk too spies are grooming "terrorists" (to be) if not to recruit/entrap them then to make "terror" headlines | Apr 08 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | "we should be calling this fundraising" | Apr 08 01:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893258 | Apr 08 01:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Everyone keeps linking to John Oliver's interview with #snowden but it's totally blocked for all #uk audience. 400MB to download elsewhere. | Apr 08 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | "I do not quite understand what the problem is ... Am I the only person using Hola plugin ?" | Apr 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5894246 | Apr 08 01:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Darryl K. Taft's openwashing of .NET is a disgrace. He also helps anti #gpl company Black Duck at the moment. #eweek #microsoft #advertising | Apr 08 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Anything they can consume and devour, they will." | Apr 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5894387 | Apr 08 01:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Conservative Media Blame Environmentalists, Not Climate, For California's "Man-Made Drought" http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/04/07/conservative-media-blame-environmentalists-not/203198 why of course! | Apr 08 01:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | Conservative Media Blame Environmentalists, Not Climate, For California's "Man-Made Drought" | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/k4miy ] | Apr 08 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | "For years, Republican Congressmen, including House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Rob Bishop have been repeating this same talking point on California's "man-made drought" to promote legislation that would redirect water to California's Central Valley at the expense of water currently dedicated to fish, wildlife, and habitat restoration under the Endangered Species Act." | Apr 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | No need to choose between that poor wildlife and the indispensables, just take the Rio Bravo. Is there any law that protects foreigners like Mexicans? | Apr 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893823 | Apr 08 01:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Brits don't neglect to publicly criticise #gchq et al. because of platitude but because of propaganda (British media), censorship, and fear | Apr 08 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, here too!" | Apr 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893903 | Apr 08 06:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Military industrial complex seeks a perception of instability abroad (need for intervention/war). Counterterrori$m needs same domestically. | Apr 08 06:29 | |
| schestowitz | "This is also a way of pre-deploying military assets for martial law. They're planning something big, if only for their own unbridled avarice. But if false-flags are off the table, it will be the first time in the history of governments." | Apr 08 06:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/585747763192864768 | Apr 08 11:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kstallett: @schestowitz Im not sure what the tsa agent is checking for there. It looks like she is cupping water from a stream. | Apr 08 11:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/585748664309669888 | Apr 08 11:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz Rand Paul's xenophobic agenda aligns closely w/ #TSA's targeting #immigrants https://t.co/XJYIt9zkcc https://t.co/qh411wb8R3 | Apr 08 11:31 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891163 | Apr 08 16:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@anonymiss@despora.de: ### MOST OF THE #WEB IS INVISIBLE TO #GOOGLE. HERE'S WHAT IT CONTAINS Source: http://www.popsci.com/dark-web-revealed #internet #darknet | Apr 08 16:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.popsci.com | Most Of The Web Is Invisible To Google. Here's What It Contains | Popular Science | Apr 08 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | "it was 400 years before the printing press was used to print a scientific journal - most all other content prior to that was bawdy . if i remember Clay Shirky's talk on open source democracy correctly . thanks for sharing ." | Apr 08 16:59 |
| schestowitz | "how cute, kids just discoverd the .onion" | Apr 08 17:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893903 | Apr 08 17:01 |
| schestowitz | "This is also a way of pre-deploying military assets for martial law. They're planning something big, if only for their own unbridled avarice. But if false-flags are off the table, it will be the first time in the history of governments." | Apr 08 17:01 |
| schestowitz | "Scary thought, that one." | Apr 08 17:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898019 | Apr 08 17:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISP Pulls VPN Service After Geo-Unblocking Legal Threats http://torrentfreak.com/isp-pulls-vpn-service-after-geo-unblocking-legal-threats-150407/ #privacy #internet #vpn | Apr 08 17:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | ISP Pulls VPN Service After Geo-Unblocking Legal Threats | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/k4rl3 ] | Apr 08 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | "yah long been wondering how VPNs actually manage to stay in business" | Apr 08 17:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898031 | Apr 09 00:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg ad for #microsoft takes 'article' form by the editor http://www.infoworld.com/article/2906318/web-browsers/javascript-experts-microsofts-new-spartan-browser-rocks.html | Apr 09 00:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.infoworld.com | JavaScript experts: Microsoft's new Spartan browser rocks | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/k4unj ] | Apr 09 00:14 | |
| schestowitz | "Nauseating article." | Apr 09 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898156 | Apr 09 06:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa promises national security when it cannot even handle security of itself, with multiple leakers - not just whistleblowers- in one year | Apr 09 06:34 | |
| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5896137" | Apr 09 06:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/HelpSnowden/status/585505507001106432 | Apr 09 06:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HelpSnowden: Rand Paul Pledges to 'Immediately' End NSA Mass Surveillance If Elected President #Snowden #surveillance http://t.co/yLd5y94jCz | Apr 09 06:34 | |
| schestowitz | "THIS. It's NOT about "national security" (in the sense of security of 'the People'). No more than patents are for innovation, the Drug Wars are about stopping drug-use, or Terror Wars stop terror. Even seeing the propaganda doesn't inoculate you from it's affects, without concentration and deliberation. And to see it means only quite desperation, when you lack communication, because language is hacked ('cracked'), and intentionally | Apr 09 06:34 |
| schestowitz | made to make it impossible to organize or resist laterally/autonomously/independently." | Apr 09 06:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898018 | Apr 09 06:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant http://www.wired.com/2015/04/ny-cops-used-stingray-spy-tool-46-times-without-warrant/ cops not afraid of the law. Who enforces it? | Apr 09 06:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | NY Cops Used 'Stingray' Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k4xjj ] | Apr 09 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | "I'm starting to think that, much like jury duty, citizens should be called to 'police duty'. Kind of like Switzerland's militia training, citizens would be trained in similar applicable skills (constitutional law, firearms safety/proficiency), but would be paired with professional police, whom are elected. Think about the pros and cons of that for a moment..." | Apr 09 06:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5897944 | Apr 09 06:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Strikes Grow in #China as Grassroots Labor Movement Takes Shape http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/04/06/strikes-grow-china-grassroots-labor-movement-takes-shape | Apr 09 06:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.commondreams.org | Strikes Grow in China as Grassroots Labor Movement Takes Shape | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/k4xjs ] | Apr 09 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | "I believe that's an unfortunate typo, isn't it? Aren't there hundreds of strikes (not 'strikers') per year?" | Apr 09 06:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898107 | Apr 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz | I do live in the country, you live in a very large city. I hadn't noticed any reduction in the number of post boxes in Bristol up until I left a couple of years ago. | Apr 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz | With the growth in electronic communication I would not be surprised if the post office reduced the number of boxes to concentrate mail into fewer boxes in view of fewer letters - not a lot of point mail workers opening empty boxes at collection time! | Apr 09 07:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 07:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The number of postboxes sure has decreased. It oughtn't take half an hour in centre of Town to find one, eventually coming to a Post Office | Apr 09 07:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5896137 | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | "Please expand on that?" | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | @theRabbit --If your question is directed at my comment... | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Got to look behind the catch phrases. He has admitted that he's running to get young people back into the "party," so he's saying logical and nice sounding things to achieve this goal, but nothing in substance that would suggest that he's committed to what he'll be doing if he was elected. And his track record is not too good. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Here is Rand's statement regarding murder by police: | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | "... I do think that sometimes -- the way we report news -- we tend to report the news of crime, and so we see a lot of crime, and we think it’s representative of the whole. And I think when you look at police across our country, 98, 99 percent of them of them are doing their job on a day-to-day basis and aren’t doing things like this.” | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | In plotting his White House run, Paul has actively courted minority communities and has co-sponsored a bill in the Senate asking for statistics related to white police officers unjustly killing African-Americans. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | But he said in the interview that these kinds of tragedies shouldn’t serve as an indictment on the behavior of police officers around the country. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | “I hope we don’t paint it with such a broad brush that we draw conclusions that may not be accurate,” Paul said. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/rand-paul-walter-scott_n_7028658.html | Apr 09 20:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.huffingtonpost.com | Rand Paul, Martin O'Malley Weigh In On Walter Scott Shooting [ http://ur1.ca/k52ym ] | Apr 09 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/08/the-fake-libertarianism-of-rand-paul/ | Apr 09 20:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.counterpunch.org | The Fake Libertarianism of Rand Paul » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names [ http://ur1.ca/k52yn ] | Apr 09 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Paul has bad positions in many other areas. I'd never vote for him, but given the choice between him and Hilary/Bush I might say, lesser of these two devils... | Apr 09 20:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/586308419138686976 https://twitter.com/micahflee/status/586308659568705536 | Apr 09 23:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @DEFCON_2015 @micahflee The whole pile of s/w methods and packs is now so mushy as not to be auditable & inspectable[MILspeak]. | Apr 09 23:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@micahflee: @schestowitz @FrancisJeffrey7 @DEFCON_2015 there's always security lapses. You can do way better, but it takes time, resources, nerd friends | Apr 09 23:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/586308811188600832 | Apr 09 23:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @DEFCON_2015 @micahflee In 1990s, when i foresaw (or rather noticed) this happening, i wrote-- http://t.co/v7TPssdttH | Apr 09 23:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.google.com | Patent US6085233 - System and method for cellular network computing and communications - Google Patents | Apr 09 23:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/canadianbryan/status/586317096335716355 | Apr 10 00:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@canadianbryan: @schestowitz @DEFCON_2015 @micahflee That's not true at all, RDRAND is used if available, but always mixed with other sources of entropy. | Apr 10 00:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/georgeedward_/status/586543005831733248 | Apr 10 17:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@georgeedward_: @schestowitz Rashmi Tailors visiting #Manchester on 17-18-April - Set Appointment for Custom-Made Suits in your City http://t.co/QZCGbIYtuX | Apr 10 17:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> a.pgtb.me | NO TITLE | Apr 10 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/586547090135846912 | Apr 10 17:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz Gnu-Linux in the rap millieu? Who knew? http://t.co/3T3KBcsFsI https://t.co/LYhXnKoox9 | Apr 10 17:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Snoop Dogg Using Linux While Being Chased by a Stormtrooper Is Real - Softpedia | Apr 10 17:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> instagram.com | Instagram | Apr 10 17:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SalvajeUnitario/status/586565641307561985 | Apr 10 17:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SalvajeUnitario: "@bernerlap: @salvajeunitario @zodiacnein @schestowitz & a complete inability to use google translate :)" He seems orphan of mother language | Apr 10 17:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5913152 | Apr 11 04:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Brian Fagioli no longer insinuates that #linuxmint is sexist for merely using non-male names for releases http://betanews.com/2015/04/10/linux-mint-debian-edition-2-betsy-is-here-will-you-download-mate-or-cinnamon/ | Apr 11 04:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> betanews.com | Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 'Betsy' is here -- will you download MATE or Cinnamon? [ http://ur1.ca/k5ekn ] | Apr 11 04:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah I'm sure that's why. ALL HAIL THE CULT OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!" | Apr 11 04:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5914077 | Apr 11 12:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If Paul wants to paint himself "anti-NSA" (for cheap gains) he should put links to #gnu #linux distros, not snakeoil http://thehill.com/policy/technology/238070-rand-paul-sells-nsa-spy-cam-blocker | Apr 11 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | "In all fairness, a sticker or slider over the webcam is, while simple, also exceptionally effective at blocking video surveillance via a compromised host, regardless of OS." | Apr 11 12:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thehill.com | Rand Paul sells ‘NSA spy cam blocker’ | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/k5h00 ] | Apr 11 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | "+1@Harka' | Apr 11 12:31 |
| schestowitz | What about the microphone? Much more effective for amassing dirt or self-incriminating evidence. | Apr 11 12:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5914179 | Apr 11 12:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any examples (yet) of terror plots in #us or #uk being foiled by mass #surveillance (not plots orchestrated by their 'foilers')? | Apr 11 12:33 | |
| schestowitz | "Not that I know of." | Apr 11 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/586868742417620992 https://twitter.com/okoeroo/status/586868902052941824 | Apr 11 12:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@angrymofo: @schestowitz 'Blockchains' appear to be the perfect place for storing public key information, everyone has all the data. Insert only, etc... | Apr 11 12:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@okoeroo: @schestowitz @annejanbrouwer An excellent model indeed. The only step-up would be a TRNG from there. | Apr 11 12:35 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5914747 | Apr 11 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@majestyx@nerdpol.ch reshared: #mozilla #firefox not secure or #privacy preserving, not just because it sends users' search data to #microsoft #nsa http://www.extremetech.com/computing/202809-mozilla-disables-new-firefox-features-to-address-critical-security-flaw | Apr 11 16:17 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.extremetech.com | Mozilla disables new Firefox features to address critical security flaw | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/k5gws ] | Apr 11 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | "but I meany also for OS X" | Apr 11 16:17 |
| schestowitz | None that I know of.. | Apr 11 16:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5915332 | Apr 11 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama's excessive drone strikes in #Somalia intensifies hate against Christians and the U.S. http://www.catholic.org/news/international/africa/story.php?id=59521 counterproductive | Apr 11 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | "counterproductive? The USA doesn't want peace. It wants enemies. Good for justifying its aggression, good for business." | Apr 11 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.catholic.org | Obama's excessive drone strikes in Somalia intensifies hate against Christians and the U.S. - Africa - International - News - Catholic Online [ http://ur1.ca/k5i49 ] | Apr 11 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5915693 | Apr 11 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Young and stupid: people who are given automatic rifles http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Costly-false-alarm-396264 | Apr 11 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | "And as in the US with swatting, the biggest problem is not Israeli soldiers killing Palestinians for no valid reason, but the one making the call." | Apr 11 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.jpost.com | Costly false alarm - Opinion - Jerusalem Post [ http://ur1.ca/k5i4c ] | Apr 11 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/586925341966499842 | Apr 11 16:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Another extraordinary example of censorship by troll army: http://t.co/AJhXMSi9xF | Apr 11 16:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thestar.com | Toronto church says it won’t allow Ukrainian-born pianist to perform | Toronto Star | Apr 11 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5915069 | Apr 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | "I wonder if terrorist are jealous of this and hate the US." | Apr 11 16:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 8th grader "arrested on felony charges...breaking into his teacher’s computer to change" wallpaper http://time.com/3817582/boy-arrested-computer-background/ | Apr 11 16:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> time.com | 8th Grader's Felony Charges For Changing Teacher's Computer Background [ http://ur1.ca/k5i96 ] | Apr 11 16:46 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5920699 | Apr 12 16:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Apparently, calling 'Chairman Mao' a "son of a bitch" is not allowed http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150409000138&cid=1101 #china #censorship | Apr 12 16:35 | |
| schestowitz__ | "With friends like US officials ..." | Apr 12 16:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wantchinatimes.com | 'CIA agent' blamed for video of CCTV host badmouthing Mao: Duowei｜WantChinaTimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/k5olp ] | Apr 12 16:35 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5921493 | Apr 12 16:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anti-Piracy Threats Trigger Massive Surge in VPN Usage http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-threats-trigger-massive-surge-in-vpn-usage-150411/ how about those using #vpn for #privacy reasons? | Apr 12 16:36 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | Anti-Piracy Threats Trigger Massive Surge in VPN Usage | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/k5om7 ] | Apr 12 16:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "This week news broke that the makers of Dallas Buyers Club have the court’s approval to go after 4,726 alleged movie pirates in Australia, opening the door to many more copyright lawsuits." | Apr 12 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Can't believe that many people watched that fucking movie. | Apr 12 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.gamespot.com/articles/get-telltale-s-game-of-thrones-episode-one-free-fo/1100-6426564/ | Apr 12 16:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.gamespot.com | Get Telltale's Game of Thrones Episode One Free for Android on Amazon - GameSpot [ http://ur1.ca/k5onb ] | Apr 12 16:41 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5921493 | Apr 12 19:07 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 19:07 |
| schestowitz__ | I have read that many times people download movies and do not see them. If watching a movie is "for free" you might never watch it or start watching it and stop if the movie is utter crap, or just watch it to kill time. If the movie costs a lot like going to a movie theather then people think more carefully whether watching it or not. | Apr 12 19:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I have read also than some companies make crappy movies and put them on the Internet looking for someone to sue; the business of those kind of companies is not selling movies but extorting downloaders. | Apr 12 19:08 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 19:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe they want to give an impression of high demand :-) by suing many | Apr 12 19:08 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. Air Force Fires General Who Threatened Airmen With ‘Treason’ https://medium.com/war-is-boring/u-s-air-force-fires-general-who-threatened-airmen-with-treason-63d8cb25aaf9 threats to people who speak truth, truth as treason | Apr 12 21:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> medium.com | U.S. Air Force Fires General Who Threatened Airmen With ‘Treason’ — War Is Boring — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/k5qe8 ] | Apr 12 21:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "With Russia backing separatist rebels in Ukraine and even threatening to nuke Denmark, the hard-hitting jets are show of force intended to calm American allies. LOL :D" | Apr 12 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | Lala Land | Apr 12 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5922381 | Apr 12 21:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In a system that has people deluded into thinking the only remaining recourse is to vote, protest rights are increasingly crushed | Apr 12 21:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "An eduative program is necessary in order to teach people that the parliamentarian system is not democracy. Democracy is the system that exists in Switzerland which is older than their parliamentarian system and which overrides the parliamentarian system. citizen initiated referendums which are binding on parliament. It works and has been working longer than the majority of people have had the vote in the rest of Europe. Some cantons | Apr 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | have had it for over 500 years :)" | Apr 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | So what's in it for the super-rich? They can't just bribe millions of people.... | Apr 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5922393 | Apr 12 21:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Countries that force all citizens to vote (or face penalties/prosecution) go further than banning protests #sweden |census obligatory in #uk | Apr 12 21:49 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | The outcome of votes is controlled, whether voting is obligatory or not, by the media. | Apr 12 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | All parties in parliament should be given equal representation in the media. | Apr 12 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Since the UK doesn't have proportional representation, all parties receiving a certain per cent of the total vote should be given equal representation in the media. | Apr 12 21:49 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/mughalbha/status/586808031238696962 | Apr 12 23:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mughalbha: #Israel Secret relations with Gulf States - #WikiLeaks blows cover off Israel's covert Gulf states ties http://t.co/Q244rE0URq | Apr 12 23:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.haaretz.com | WikiLeaks blows cover off Israel's covert Gulf states ties - Israel News | Haaretz | Apr 12 23:57 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:12] <tessier> Hi Roy! We emailed about a week ago about our plans to upgrade the power in the datacenter. Everything is back up now. Sorry for the inconvenience! | Apr 05 09:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | [09:55] <schestowitz_bed2> cheers | Apr 05 09:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynco/status/584681059163308033 | Apr 05 11:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynco: @schestowitz war profiteers with no experience in interrogations, terrorists or AQ are the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen | Apr 05 11:38 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/584682737249845249 | Apr 05 11:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: As in '#Mexico' @ #Ayotzinapa, #Hondura's #DeathSquads kill 4 #StudentProtesters, including a 13-yr-old http://t.co/pyg1rrnAwn ♺@schestowitz | Apr 05 11:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsws.org | Honduran death squads kill four student protesters, including a 13-year-old - World Socialist Web Site | Apr 05 11:50 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynco/status/584684446164463617 | Apr 05 11:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynco: @schestowitz "We've continued to try and redact our way out of our past mistakes..." | Apr 05 11:51 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.thetowntalk.com/story/opinion/2015/03/31/james-robbins-us-always-wrong-nuclear-ability/70688636/ | Apr 05 12:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "India's 1974 nuclear test came as a surprise too, as did Pakistan's in 1998 and North Korea's in 2006." | Apr 05 12:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thetowntalk.com | James S. Robbins: U.S. always wrong on nuclear ability [ http://ur1.ca/k43ph ] | Apr 05 12:15 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/584692486796259328 | Apr 05 12:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@angrymofo: @schestowitz That 'emergency' landing looked very convenient to me too. | Apr 05 12:24 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | maybe testing the reaction... like Russia allegedly does in the northern seas... | Apr 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cayman http://www.caymanreporter.com/2015/04/02/from-constitutional-monarchy-to-republic-barbados-and-jamaica/ | Apr 05 12:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.caymanreporter.com | From Constitutional Monarchy to Republic: Barbados and Jamaica [ http://ur1.ca/k43ro ] | Apr 05 12:27 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.wkrg.com/story/28709174/new-fallen-heroes-memorial-at-battleship-park | Apr 05 12:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.wkrg.com | New Fallen Heroes Memorial at Battleship Park [ http://ur1.ca/k43rz ] | Apr 05 12:29 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Nothig for the fallen Iraqis | Apr 05 12:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The Fallen Heroes Memorial will honor those who sacrificed in the 9-11 attacks and throughout the subsequent years fighting the war on terror." | Apr 05 12:29 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/584700211341164544 | Apr 05 12:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz I totally agree! They realized that stuff has far broader appeal than history and so the corporate overlords sold them out. | Apr 05 12:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 05 17:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 05 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Please give example of such research, then." | Apr 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | @tzafrir@wk3.org , it seems the only 'research' you're willing to accept is that which supports your predetermined conclusion, or perhaps, as @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) alludes, is properly bought and paid for. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Eric Holt-Giménez who graduated in agricultural development at UC Davis and earned his doctorate in agroecology from UC Santa Cruz, questions the headlong rush to use GMOs. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "The assertion on the part of pro-GMO scientists that because we haven't seen any problems with GMO crops over the last 20 years, that it means there are not any – that is just remarkably unscientific," said Holt-Giménez, who is also executive director of Food First, a social and agricultural advocacy group. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "No one has ever done a serious demographic study on GMOs' effect on full populations," he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Holt-Giménez said he believes genetically modified crops are no silver bullet solution for salty and thirsty soil or for pest control. "Building resilience into the ecosystem is the only way to address the problem," he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | That resilience has to do with crop diversity, including tree cover on farms and soil and water conservation as has been applied to many small farms in Central America, he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "These farms tripled, and in some cases quadrupled, yields – and did so without GMOs," he said. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | "GMOs don't produce food for poor people," Holt-Giménez said. "They feed cows and they feed cars, so the track record of ending hunger is not well-established." | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Edward Ortiz, "Debate over genetically modified organisms precedes UCD conference," Sacramento Bee, March 17, 2013, http://www.sacbee.com/2013/03/17/5269338/debate-over-genetically-modified.html | Apr 05 17:22 |
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| schestowitz | But in a just-released paper published in the peer-reviewed Environmental Sciences Europe, Chuck Benbrook, research professor at Washington State University's Center for Sustaining Agriculture and Natural Resources, shreds that claim. He found that Monsanto's Roundup Ready technology, which dominates corn, soy, and cotton farming, has called forth a veritable monsoon of herbicides, both in terms of higher application rates for | Apr 05 17:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.sacbee.com | Debate over genetically modified organisms precedes UCD conference | The Sacramento Bee The Sacramento Bee [ http://ur1.ca/k4509 ] | Apr 05 17:22 | |
| schestowitz | Roundup, and, in recent years, growing use of other, more-toxic herbicides. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Benbrook found that overall, GMO technology drove up herbicide use by 527 million pounds, or about 11 percent, between 1996 (when Roundup Ready crops first hit farm fields) and 2011. But it gets worse. For several years, the Roundup Ready trait actually did meet Monsanto's promise of decreasing overall herbicide use—herbicide use dropped by about 2 percent between 1996 and 1999, Benbrook told me in an interview. But then weeds | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | started to develop resistance to Roundup, pushing farmers to apply higher per-acre rates. In 2002, farmers using Roundup Ready soybeans jacked up their Roundup application rates by 21 percent, triggering a 19 million pound overall increase in Roundup use. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Tom Philpott, "How GMOs Unleashed a Pesticide Gusher," Mother Jones, October 3, 2012, http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/10/how-gmos-ramped-us-pesticide-use | Apr 05 17:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.motherjones.com | How GMOs Unleashed a Pesticide Gusher | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/k450b ] | Apr 05 17:22 | |
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| schestowitz | That is the rhetoric. That’s also Mr. Bush’s argument for the new case he started against Europe in the WTO. He argued that, by not eating GM foods, Europeans are somehow creating hunger in the South. Unfortunately, no lie is bigger than the fact that genetic engineering will be a solution to hunger. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | In fact, it’s becoming a cause for hunger, it’s becoming the cause for poverty. In India, since globalization introduced new rules for the seed sector, farmers are having to pay so much for totally unreliable seed, which needs huge amounts of chemicals. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | They’re getting into debt, they’re spending a hundred thousand rupees per acre for production and earning ten thousand rupees at the end of the year. They get into ninety thousand rupees of debt every year. Twenty thousand farmers have committed suicide as a result of this. The genetic engineered crops themselves are actually not performing because they have been engineered to use more chemicals, not to produce more yields. They | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | have what is called a yield drag. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | When they brought their BT cotton to India, Monsanto announced that this genetically engineered cotton would double the yield, and bring a doubling of incomes. Well, the first year of cultivation showed that this was totally false. There was a 90% decline of yields and increase of farm losses of rupees 6 to 7,000 per acre. Monsanto has just been banned from expanding its cultivation in India for the extremely bad performance of its | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | seed. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | In the third world Monsanto is causing hunger, suicides and poverty. In fact, genetic engineering is not affordable in India. Our peasants are poor, and we can’t afford to play the profit-making games of corporations at the cost of polluting nature and biodiversity and impoverishing already marginalized farmers. | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Paolo Scopacasa, "Vandana Shiva – In Her Own Words," Ecoworld, March 6, 2004, http://www.ecoworld.com/government/vandana-shiva-in-her-own-words.html | Apr 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ecoworld.com | Vandana Shiva – In Her Own Words | Environmental News, Articles & Information | Global Warming News | EcoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/k450g ] | Apr 05 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | "tzafir can you post some study about safety of gmo food?! Than, can you explain what safety is in your point of view?! Make more bad quality food to increase demografic population (i.e. selection of people resistent to herbicide or other cancerogenic substances) meanwhile creating desertification?! Diversification is the only thing we need. GMO can work just on laboratory, where all the other variable (light, water, ecc) are under | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | control. Well made Compost is bacteria/mycelium bounded and is all plants need." | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Regulators check that GM foods are "substantially equivalent" to their conventional counterparts, to detect any negative unintended consequences.[4][5][6] New protein(s) that differ from conventional food proteins or anomalies that arise in the substantial equivalence comparison require further toxicological analysis.[6] | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | "The World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the British Royal Society, and every other respected organization that has examined the evidence has come to the same conclusion: consuming foods containing ingredients derived from GM crops is no riskier than consuming the same foods containing ingredients from crop plants modified by conventional plant improvement techniques." – | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | American Association for the Advancement of Science[1] | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | In 1999, Chesson warned that substantial equivalence testing "could be flawed in some cases" and that current safety tests could allow harmful substances to enter the human food supply.[112] The same year Millstone, Brunner and Mayer argued that the standard was a pseudo-scientific product of politics and lobbying that was created to reassure consumers and aid biotechnology companies to reduce the time and cost of safety testing. They | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | suggested that GM foods have extensive biological, toxicological and immunological tests and that substantial equivalence should be abandoned.[113] This commentary was criticized for misrepresenting history,[114] for distorting existing data and poor logic.[115] Kuiper claimed that it oversimplified safety assessments and that equivalence testing involves more than chemical tests, possibly including toxicity testing.[116][7] Keler and | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Lappe supported Congressional legislation to replace the substantial equivalence standard with safety studies.[117] | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Kuiper examined this process further in 2002, finding that substantial equivalence does not measure absolute risks, but instead identifies differences between new and existing products. He claimed that characterizing differences is properly a starting point for a safety assessment[7] and "the concept of substantial equivalence is an adequate tool in order to identify safety issues related to genetically modified products that have a | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | traditional counterpart". Kuiper noted practical difficulties in applying this standard, including the fact that traditional foods contain many toxic or carcinogenic chemicals and that existing diets were never proven to be safe. This lack of knowledge re conventional food means that modified foods may differ in anti-nutrients and natural toxins that have never been identified in the original plant, possibly allowing harmful changes to | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | be missed.[7] In turn, positive modifications may also be missed. For example, corn damaged by insects often contains high levels of fumonisins, carcinogenic toxins made by fungi that travel on insects' backs and that grow in the wounds of damaged corn. Studies show that most Bt corn has lower levels of fumonisins than conventional insect-damaged corn.[118][119] Workshops and consultations organized by the OECD, WHO, and FAO have worked | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | to acquire data and develop better understanding of conventional foods, for use in assessing GM foods.[105][120] | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | SO, THE POINT IS: | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | *t0: "CONVENTIONAL AGRICULTURE" IS A DEADING PROCESS. | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | *t1: "DON'T WORRY WE HAVE GMO". | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | *t3: "GMO ARE REALLY BAD, MONSANTO, WHATEVER..". | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | *t4: "PEER REVIEW STUDY SHOW THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GMO AND CONVENTIONAL AGRICULTURE, SO THEY ARE SAFE" | Apr 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | ...So magically we would pass from a bad way of farming to a bad way of farming with some different genes trait. Really nice human evolution. This is the change we want. scientific metafisic | Apr 05 17:23 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | There's a real problem here in that @tzafrir@wk3.org is posting claims about the state of the field that do not in any way, shape, or form reflect the state of the field. It's possible to argue for GMOs and the Green Revolution, but he just denies that there's any substantive argument against them, hiding behind the demand for "data" and citing cherry-picked studies from Wikipedia (!) as if they represented a consensus. | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | It simply ain't so just because Wikipedia says it. You have to actually read the sources cited to see if they say what the article claims they do. And if you don't have access to those articles, go to a university library. | Apr 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | Enrico, links already posted (the references to the statement from Wikipedia). I did not cherry-pick. read the article to see the context. | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Heck, you don't even bother to relate to the contents of those references. There's a clear scientific consensus on this point. | Apr 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | tzafrir, i ask you some study and data that confirm the safety of GM products. Statistics that says there is not significative difference between GM crops and conventional (AKA chemical) agriculture doesn't mean they are safe. it means that (IN THE WAY THE STUDY IS DESIGN) they couldn't find any statistical relevance. From the same wikipedia page you post it: | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | While some groups and individuals have called for more human testing of GM food,[170] multiple obstacles complicate such studies. The General Accounting Office (in a review of FDA procedures requested by Congress) and a working group of the Food and Agricultural and World Health organizations both said that long-term human studies of the effect of GM food are not feasible. The reasons included lack of a plausible hypothesis to test, | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | lack of knowledge about the potential long-term effects of conventional foods, variability in the ways humans react to foods and that epidemiological studies were unlikely to differentiate modified from conventional foods, which come with their own suite of unhealthy characteristics.[171][172] | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Additionally, ethical concerns guide human subject research. These mandate that each tested intervention must have a potential benefit for the human subjects, such as treatment for a disease or nutritional benefit (ruling out, e.g., human toxicity testing).[173] Kimber claimed that the "ethical and technical constraints of conducting human trials, and the necessity of doing so, is a subject that requires considerable attention."[174] | Apr 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Food with nutritional benefits may escape this objection. E.g., GM rice has been tested for nutritional benefits, namely, increased levels of Vitamin A.[175][176][177] | Apr 05 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#Human_studies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#Human_studies | Apr 05 17:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Genetically modified food controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k4516 ] | Apr 05 17:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies#Health | Apr 05 17:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Genetically modified food controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k4517 ] | Apr 05 17:25 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/ http://www.scientology.org/ | Apr 05 17:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theflatearthsociety.org | The Flat Earth Society | Apr 05 17:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.scientology.org | Scientology Church & Religion - What is Scientology? | Apr 05 17:25 | |
| schestowitz | The moment one connects GMO critics to Scientology and such I know it's a debate not worth having; it would be trying to convince someone who already relegated disputes over science pertaining to genetics to "conspiracy theory"/religion (magic) and equates it with nutjobs. Waste of time. | Apr 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz | For those who did not read the link, Enric points to the section Human studies in the Wikipedia article. It is a subsection of the section Health that begins with the following text: "A broad scientific consensus holds that currently marketed GM food poses no greater risk than conventional food.[1][2][3][8][88][100][101][102]". I will not bother linking to all of the sources there. | Apr 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Sources [171] and [172] are from 2002 and 2000, respectively. Naturally at the time a lot less information was available. Now we actually have more information. Source [170] is from an odd-ball source. It talks in the name of "Physicians and Scientists" but doesn't name even one. This is the evidence that "some groups have called for" whatever condition. Some groups have called for us to stop denying that the earth is flat or to | Apr 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz | acknowledge we were created by aliens. | Apr 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz | On the next paragraph this pattern continues. Source [174] voices concerns. But this is an article of 2003. Source [173] refers to clinical trials. Have you ever seen clinical trials done for food? There are alternative methods. We also have 15 years of data. Next you have three sources that support using one specific food (even though it has not gone through clinical trials). | Apr 05 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5880557 | Apr 05 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From #surveillance comes #censorship (DiFI) http://rt.com/usa/246701-feinstein-internet-book-ban/ http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/03/sen-feinstein-wants-diy-bomb-making-guide-anarchists-cookbook-off-the-internet/ | Apr 05 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | "What about banning the FBI providing that book to hobbyist terrorists? That would be feasible." | Apr 05 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> rt.com | Senator Feinstein calls for internet ban of Anarchist Cookbook and Inspire magazine — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/k459j ] | Apr 05 18:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com | Sen. Feinstein Wants DIY Bomb-Making Guide ‘Anarchist’s Cookbook’ Off The Internet « CBS San Francisco [ http://ur1.ca/k459k ] | Apr 05 18:08 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 06 07:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 06 07:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊), you didn't actually read what I wrote. My problem is that GMO opponents simply fail to bring to the table (or the post, whatever) decent arguments and facts. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Cronos, that article from 1997 calls Roundup a "cash cow" for Monsanto. This was indeed the case up until 2000, when the patent for it expired. The article assumes, for some odd reason, that Monsanto would continue to dominate the production of glyphosate. It doesn't. It is still one of the major vendors, but there are many of them. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | And the trouble here is that the burden of proof seems to rest entirely on GMO opponents. Even if the applied measures of safety are dubious. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | GMO, it seems, is innocent until proven guilty. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | This is the kind of attitude that helps to explain the anti-vaxxers. They don't trust the authorities, because they don't really believe that the authorities care about the health of their children. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | "I give up. You constantly ignore my arguments. You keep ignoring a large body of empirical evidence. I won't convince you. Such an attitude on your side helps explain the anti-vaxxers: they keep ignoring the existing body of evidence." | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | @tzafrir you can always support your beliefs and vote with your wallet, buy as much food with GMO as possible. | Apr 06 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Well, that if you manage to know what food has GMO, the last I read was that companies like Monsanto do not want us to know and are lobbying for laws about that. | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | What exactly do you mean by 'empirical' evidence? The kind that's been bought and paid for? | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Or maybe, returning to the original meaning of the word, people's experience? | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Somehow, I'm pretty sure you mean the former and not the latter. Which introduces a dissonance: Can you really believe that Monsanto and other big agriculture corporations give a damn about our health? Can you really believe that they aren't trying to extract every last nickel from farmers, even poor ones in India? | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | No, of course, not. But you trust in the market to remedy any such concerns. Which for anyone sane, is yet another dissonance. | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 06 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | One of my best friends is a professor in a field where companies often try to approach him with a bribe to 'prove' the safety of things. Remember "Thank you for smoking?" | Apr 06 07:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5880750 | Apr 06 07:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Honduran death squads kill four student protesters, including a 13-year-old http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/01/hond-a01.html "signs of brutal torture." | Apr 06 07:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The propaganda campaign led by Obama/Hilary (around the time of the Haiti Crisis) in favor of the military coup was disgusting." | Apr 06 07:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsws.org | Honduran death squads kill four student protesters, including a 13-year-old - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/k48oj ] | Apr 06 07:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5881011 | Apr 06 07:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Obama Administration Improperly Claims Secrecy Power Over Videos of Former Guantanamo Prisoner’s Force-Feeding http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2015/04/02/obama-administration-improperly-claims-secrecy-power-over-videos-of-former-guantanamo-prisoners-force-feeding/ | Apr 06 07:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""...most transparent administration ever."" | Apr 06 07:33 |
| schestowitz__ | They say so, and it must be true.... | Apr 06 07:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Obama Administration Improperly Claims Secrecy Power Over Videos of Former Guantanamo Prisoner’s Force-Feeding | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/k48ot ] | Apr 06 07:33 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/alshabib/status/585098679054245890 https://twitter.com/alshabib/status/585098868917866496 | Apr 06 15:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alshabib: @schestowitz @webmink Link is under the software page. Now it's also on the homepage. Also, we're on github, unsurprisingly. | Apr 06 15:17 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alshabib: @schestowitz @webmink in the wise words of Ben Harper "so before you knock it try it first". Just sayin'. | Apr 06 15:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/delia68869/status/585180781565181952 | Apr 06 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@delia68869: @schestowitz Meet MobiWear, a Convenient Wearable Case That Gives You the Flexibility To Capture Moments That Matter!http://t.co/fO5R0VVbCo | Apr 06 20:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mobiwear.crowdfundingcooker.com | mobiwear | Apr 06 20:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888707 | Apr 07 00:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are those adhering to Free software principles; then there are those who 'mix and match'; latter cannot proclaim to be FOSS champions | Apr 07 00:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | #ubuntu | Apr 07 00:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888641 | Apr 07 00:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The problems with iOS 8 have stretched on for months. Come on, Apple!" http://www.computerworld.com/article/2905717/ios-8-hate.html for those into brands rather than tech | Apr 07 00:19 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.computerworld.com | iOS 8 hate | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/k4do4 ] | Apr 07 00:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow. Nice troll headline and blast of ads for Computerworld with no real content other than one persons unique issues with his iOS devices. | Apr 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm not a fanboy but if I can have six members of my family on three generations of hardware experince none of his issues Apple doesn't have a "problem" | Apr 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Also the multiple software release he whines about are feature releases, not bug fixes. Except for the 6/6+ comment none of the other fixes were for completely broken launches. | Apr 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, IDG does that a lot | Apr 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888488 | Apr 07 00:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@salinger3@diaspora-fr.org: #Snowden featured in an episode of Last Week Tonight with #John_Oliver on Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XEVlyP4_11M | Apr 07 00:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/k4dog ] | Apr 07 00:21 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Blocked in UK" | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | try : | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | → https://www.youtube.com/v/XEVlyP4_11M | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | or | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | → https://wa.proxfree.com/permalink.php?url=s54aaHA%2FaGsaD5vHs0QZLcUclS%2FcUxrnNZwEMCiA0I%2F5KhQoZ%2F9yEUqruQK28734PlwI47F6Au05lAxDy3Tflw%3D%3D&bit=1 | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Apr 07 00:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wa.proxfree.com | ProxFree: Error! [ http://ur1.ca/k4dok ] | Apr 07 00:21 | |
| schestowitz__ | "@Dr.Roy : http://off.li/jhjql" | Apr 07 00:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-offliberty.com | Offliberty - evidence of offline life | Apr 07 00:21 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Hola" | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "Plugin for firefox" | Apr 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Tried all the above links, but everything failed. Well done, Google (YouTube) and HBO..... | Apr 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 07 00:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 07 00:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_and_Health%3a_Report_of_the_Advisory_Committee_to_the_Surgeon_General_of_the_United_States | Apr 07 00:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Smoking and Health: Report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k4dp6 ] | Apr 07 00:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | The requirements you have for safety are simply too harsh. Many new varieties and even new species were introduced without passing such tests. In fact, new varieties are constantly being developed. | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | And no, it doesn't take genetic modification to make a new variety potentially harmful. | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Furthermore, why limit this just to foods? Has the new model of bed been tested in clinical trial not to cause some sort of back pains? What about the keyboard of the new laptop? And the screen of the cellular phone? | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Comparing this to smoking won't really help. In the late 1950s there was already a clear scientific consensus that smoking is harmful. Tobacco companies managed to keep an appearance of difference of opinions the way some companies fuel global warming deniers today. | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | "The difference about your examples and GMO food is that companies like Monsanto do not want us to know and choose whether to consume or not GMO food. At least I can choose the bed I like knowing more or less how is it build, and unlike food I can live fine without goods like tobacco." | Apr 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Tobacco and pesticides/GMO are both harmful in various ways (more than one), but a lot of people know when they smoke (even second hand) whereas they don't know what chemicals/genetics are in their food | Apr 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888862 | Apr 07 00:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: such amazing diversity on jeopardy...  #diversity #jeopardy #gameshow #africanamerican #history #category | Apr 07 00:28 | |
| schestowitz__ | "should they start affirmitive action for game shows too? ;)" | Apr 07 00:28 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 07 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | The claim that our standards for safety are too harsh assumes that GMO foods are indeed comparable to other new varieties. | Apr 07 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | But tomatoes can't be bred to acquire animal genes. You have to genetically engineer them to do that. And the scientific method cannot tell us in any reasonable length of time just how important such engineering is. | Apr 07 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | But most of all, people with autonomy can choose their risks. Increasingly we have no choice about GMO. I might not like a particular variety of carrot and I might be really fussy about mattresses, but with these I still have a choice. With GMO, I'm being denied the autonomy that is my right. | Apr 07 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 07 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888488 | Apr 07 08:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@salinger3@diaspora-fr.org: #Snowden featured in an episode of Last Week Tonight with #John_Oliver on Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XEVlyP4_11M | Apr 07 08:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/k4dog ] | Apr 07 08:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | "offliberty failed ?" | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "Why LastWeekTonight is blocked in UK ? strange." | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Copyrights. They hate their audience. | Apr 07 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I can download as MP3, I think... | Apr 07 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5888458 | Apr 07 08:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stupid lawyers call GNU/RMS text "Open source Manifesto" http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=9bb2af23-7b03-445a-bef4-deb1917633a9 shows how ignorant they are | Apr 07 08:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Many people on here I've seen call Ubuntu "GNU/Linux"" | Apr 07 08:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.lexology.com | Open source Manifesto turns 30 - Lexology [ http://ur1.ca/k4dhf ] | Apr 07 08:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | Ubuntu comes with loads of GNU programs | Apr 07 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5890374 | Apr 07 13:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For those claiming that desktop effects are just eye candy or complicated to use, my wife loves and relies on #kwin effects. #kde | Apr 07 13:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | "and she has a Nerd husband... makes some things easier... ;-)" | Apr 07 13:00 |
| schestowitz__ | No longer needed much... KDE is easy to use | Apr 07 13:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891135 | Apr 07 13:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In collusion between #hbo and #google #youtube the @iamjohnoliver interview of #Snowden is blocked to the UK. Like Great Firewall of China. | Apr 07 13:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | "yup- I found that- unreachable from here. Things are not improving are they?" | Apr 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:04] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891163 | Apr 07 13:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@anonymiss@despora.de: ### MOST OF THE #WEB IS INVISIBLE TO #GOOGLE. HERE'S WHAT IT CONTAINS Source: http://www.popsci.com/dark-web-revealed #internet #darknet | Apr 07 13:10 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.popsci.com | Most Of The Web Is Invisible To Google. Here's What It Contains | Popular Science | Apr 07 13:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | [13:04] <schestowitz__> 'huhu...' | Apr 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:10] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891135 | Apr 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz__ | United Kingdom no longer a source of envy to the Saudi Kingdom... | Apr 07 13:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891154 | Apr 07 13:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Obama Arms Bazaar: Record Sales, Troubling Results http://www.lobelog.com/the-obama-arms-bazaar-record-sales-troubling-results/ #war president, Nobel #peace prize | Apr 07 13:12 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.lobelog.com | The Obama Arms Bazaar: Record Sales, Troubling Results « LobeLog [ http://ur1.ca/k4hin ] | Apr 07 13:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""Once the United States supplies weaponry to a nation or group, it has very little control over how that weaponry is used. U.S. arms supplied to anti-Soviet fighters in Afghanistan ended up in the hands of violent jihadis, some of whom ended up as founding members of al-Qaeda." | Apr 07 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | 'Oops'... better send more weapons there to fight al-Qaeda now. Let me check the Register. Yes, we can expand national debt/roof a little more... | Apr 07 13:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891093 | Apr 07 18:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Jo_Tovey/status/585132443063156736 | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Jo_Tovey: Edward Snowden has been removed. http://t.co/2DYqBElN4L | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | "In Tibet, when the Chinese cracked down on pictures of the Dalai Lama, people would put empty picture frames into their shopping and home windows..." | Apr 07 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891120 | Apr 07 18:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/585141723191500800 | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JesselynRadack: And like any free & open #democratic society, gov quickly has #Snowden statue covered #USgoodAtCoverUps http://t.co/udUcOf8VJW | Apr 07 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes - but - statues are usually put up for dead people. Thank goodness he's alive, well and free." | Apr 07 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Not so free, he has no passport | Apr 07 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5890374 | Apr 07 18:59 |
| schestowitz | "I like Xubuntu...maybe I give something else a try...one day...if I find a Nerd... :-)" | Apr 07 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891345 | Apr 07 18:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### European Court condemns #Italy for ' #torture' in Diaz raid (ANSA) - Strasbourg, April 7 - The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday condemned Italy and called for legislative changes after "torture" during a police raid in July 2001 on anti-globalization protestors at the Diaz school during a Group of Eight summit in Genoa. The court said it condemned Italy not only for what happened to the d | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by ii_try@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5378e50470ca010e110c.jpg | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by ii_try@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5378e50470ca010e110c.jpg | Apr 07 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | "and the consequence of this will be... what?" | Apr 07 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5894741 | Apr 08 01:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Apr 08 01:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893894 | Apr 08 01:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's not just #fbi in US; in #uk too spies are grooming "terrorists" (to be) if not to recruit/entrap them then to make "terror" headlines | Apr 08 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | "we should be calling this fundraising" | Apr 08 01:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893258 | Apr 08 01:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Everyone keeps linking to John Oliver's interview with #snowden but it's totally blocked for all #uk audience. 400MB to download elsewhere. | Apr 08 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | "I do not quite understand what the problem is ... Am I the only person using Hola plugin ?" | Apr 08 01:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5894246 | Apr 08 01:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Darryl K. Taft's openwashing of .NET is a disgrace. He also helps anti #gpl company Black Duck at the moment. #eweek #microsoft #advertising | Apr 08 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Anything they can consume and devour, they will." | Apr 08 01:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5894387 | Apr 08 01:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Conservative Media Blame Environmentalists, Not Climate, For California's "Man-Made Drought" http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/04/07/conservative-media-blame-environmentalists-not/203198 why of course! | Apr 08 01:47 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | Conservative Media Blame Environmentalists, Not Climate, For California's "Man-Made Drought" | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/k4miy ] | Apr 08 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | "For years, Republican Congressmen, including House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Rob Bishop have been repeating this same talking point on California's "man-made drought" to promote legislation that would redirect water to California's Central Valley at the expense of water currently dedicated to fish, wildlife, and habitat restoration under the Endangered Species Act." | Apr 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | No need to choose between that poor wildlife and the indispensables, just take the Rio Bravo. Is there any law that protects foreigners like Mexicans? | Apr 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893823 | Apr 08 01:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Brits don't neglect to publicly criticise #gchq et al. because of platitude but because of propaganda (British media), censorship, and fear | Apr 08 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, here too!" | Apr 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893903 | Apr 08 06:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Military industrial complex seeks a perception of instability abroad (need for intervention/war). Counterterrori$m needs same domestically. | Apr 08 06:29 | |
| schestowitz | "This is also a way of pre-deploying military assets for martial law. They're planning something big, if only for their own unbridled avarice. But if false-flags are off the table, it will be the first time in the history of governments." | Apr 08 06:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/585747763192864768 | Apr 08 11:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kstallett: @schestowitz Im not sure what the tsa agent is checking for there. It looks like she is cupping water from a stream. | Apr 08 11:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/585748664309669888 | Apr 08 11:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz Rand Paul's xenophobic agenda aligns closely w/ #TSA's targeting #immigrants https://t.co/XJYIt9zkcc https://t.co/qh411wb8R3 | Apr 08 11:30 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5891163 | Apr 08 16:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@anonymiss@despora.de: ### MOST OF THE #WEB IS INVISIBLE TO #GOOGLE. HERE'S WHAT IT CONTAINS Source: http://www.popsci.com/dark-web-revealed #internet #darknet | Apr 08 16:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.popsci.com | Most Of The Web Is Invisible To Google. Here's What It Contains | Popular Science | Apr 08 16:58 | |
| schestowitz | "it was 400 years before the printing press was used to print a scientific journal - most all other content prior to that was bawdy . if i remember Clay Shirky's talk on open source democracy correctly . thanks for sharing ." | Apr 08 16:59 |
| schestowitz | "how cute, kids just discoverd the .onion" | Apr 08 17:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5893903 | Apr 08 17:00 |
| schestowitz | "This is also a way of pre-deploying military assets for martial law. They're planning something big, if only for their own unbridled avarice. But if false-flags are off the table, it will be the first time in the history of governments." | Apr 08 17:00 |
| schestowitz | "Scary thought, that one." | Apr 08 17:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898019 | Apr 08 17:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISP Pulls VPN Service After Geo-Unblocking Legal Threats http://torrentfreak.com/isp-pulls-vpn-service-after-geo-unblocking-legal-threats-150407/ #privacy #internet #vpn | Apr 08 17:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | ISP Pulls VPN Service After Geo-Unblocking Legal Threats | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/k4rl3 ] | Apr 08 17:01 | |
| schestowitz | "yah long been wondering how VPNs actually manage to stay in business" | Apr 08 17:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898031 | Apr 09 00:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg ad for #microsoft takes 'article' form by the editor http://www.infoworld.com/article/2906318/web-browsers/javascript-experts-microsofts-new-spartan-browser-rocks.html | Apr 09 00:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.infoworld.com | JavaScript experts: Microsoft's new Spartan browser rocks | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/k4unj ] | Apr 09 00:14 | |
| schestowitz | "Nauseating article." | Apr 09 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898156 | Apr 09 06:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa promises national security when it cannot even handle security of itself, with multiple leakers - not just whistleblowers- in one year | Apr 09 06:33 | |
| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5896137" | Apr 09 06:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/HelpSnowden/status/585505507001106432 | Apr 09 06:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HelpSnowden: Rand Paul Pledges to 'Immediately' End NSA Mass Surveillance If Elected President #Snowden #surveillance http://t.co/yLd5y94jCz | Apr 09 06:33 | |
| schestowitz | "THIS. It's NOT about "national security" (in the sense of security of 'the People'). No more than patents are for innovation, the Drug Wars are about stopping drug-use, or Terror Wars stop terror. Even seeing the propaganda doesn't inoculate you from it's affects, without concentration and deliberation. And to see it means only quite desperation, when you lack communication, because language is hacked ('cracked'), and intentionally | Apr 09 06:33 |
| schestowitz | made to make it impossible to organize or resist laterally/autonomously/independently." | Apr 09 06:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898018 | Apr 09 06:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant http://www.wired.com/2015/04/ny-cops-used-stingray-spy-tool-46-times-without-warrant/ cops not afraid of the law. Who enforces it? | Apr 09 06:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | NY Cops Used 'Stingray' Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k4xjj ] | Apr 09 06:34 | |
| schestowitz | "I'm starting to think that, much like jury duty, citizens should be called to 'police duty'. Kind of like Switzerland's militia training, citizens would be trained in similar applicable skills (constitutional law, firearms safety/proficiency), but would be paired with professional police, whom are elected. Think about the pros and cons of that for a moment..." | Apr 09 06:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5897944 | Apr 09 06:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Strikes Grow in #China as Grassroots Labor Movement Takes Shape http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/04/06/strikes-grow-china-grassroots-labor-movement-takes-shape | Apr 09 06:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.commondreams.org | Strikes Grow in China as Grassroots Labor Movement Takes Shape | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/k4xjs ] | Apr 09 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | "I believe that's an unfortunate typo, isn't it? Aren't there hundreds of strikes (not 'strikers') per year?" | Apr 09 06:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898107 | Apr 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz | I do live in the country, you live in a very large city. I hadn't noticed any reduction in the number of post boxes in Bristol up until I left a couple of years ago. | Apr 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz | With the growth in electronic communication I would not be surprised if the post office reduced the number of boxes to concentrate mail into fewer boxes in view of fewer letters - not a lot of point mail workers opening empty boxes at collection time! | Apr 09 07:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 07:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The number of postboxes sure has decreased. It oughtn't take half an hour in centre of Town to find one, eventually coming to a Post Office | Apr 09 07:40 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5896137 | Apr 09 20:33 |
| schestowitz | "Please expand on that?" | Apr 09 20:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 20:33 |
| schestowitz | @theRabbit --If your question is directed at my comment... | Apr 09 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Got to look behind the catch phrases. He has admitted that he's running to get young people back into the "party," so he's saying logical and nice sounding things to achieve this goal, but nothing in substance that would suggest that he's committed to what he'll be doing if he was elected. And his track record is not too good. | Apr 09 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Here is Rand's statement regarding murder by police: | Apr 09 20:33 |
| schestowitz | "... I do think that sometimes -- the way we report news -- we tend to report the news of crime, and so we see a lot of crime, and we think it’s representative of the whole. And I think when you look at police across our country, 98, 99 percent of them of them are doing their job on a day-to-day basis and aren’t doing things like this.” | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | In plotting his White House run, Paul has actively courted minority communities and has co-sponsored a bill in the Senate asking for statistics related to white police officers unjustly killing African-Americans. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | But he said in the interview that these kinds of tragedies shouldn’t serve as an indictment on the behavior of police officers around the country. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | “I hope we don’t paint it with such a broad brush that we draw conclusions that may not be accurate,” Paul said. | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/rand-paul-walter-scott_n_7028658.html | Apr 09 20:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.huffingtonpost.com | Rand Paul, Martin O'Malley Weigh In On Walter Scott Shooting [ http://ur1.ca/k52ym ] | Apr 09 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/08/the-fake-libertarianism-of-rand-paul/ | Apr 09 20:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.counterpunch.org | The Fake Libertarianism of Rand Paul » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names [ http://ur1.ca/k52yn ] | Apr 09 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 09 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Paul has bad positions in many other areas. I'd never vote for him, but given the choice between him and Hilary/Bush I might say, lesser of these two devils... | Apr 09 20:34 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/586308419138686976 https://twitter.com/micahflee/status/586308659568705536 | Apr 09 23:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @DEFCON_2015 @micahflee The whole pile of s/w methods and packs is now so mushy as not to be auditable & inspectable[MILspeak]. | Apr 09 23:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@micahflee: @schestowitz @FrancisJeffrey7 @DEFCON_2015 there's always security lapses. You can do way better, but it takes time, resources, nerd friends | Apr 09 23:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/586308811188600832 | Apr 09 23:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @DEFCON_2015 @micahflee In 1990s, when i foresaw (or rather noticed) this happening, i wrote-- http://t.co/v7TPssdttH | Apr 09 23:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.google.com | Patent US6085233 - System and method for cellular network computing and communications - Google Patents | Apr 09 23:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/canadianbryan/status/586317096335716355 | Apr 10 00:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@canadianbryan: @schestowitz @DEFCON_2015 @micahflee That's not true at all, RDRAND is used if available, but always mixed with other sources of entropy. | Apr 10 00:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/georgeedward_/status/586543005831733248 | Apr 10 17:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@georgeedward_: @schestowitz Rashmi Tailors visiting #Manchester on 17-18-April - Set Appointment for Custom-Made Suits in your City http://t.co/QZCGbIYtuX | Apr 10 17:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> a.pgtb.me | NO TITLE | Apr 10 17:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/586547090135846912 | Apr 10 17:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz Gnu-Linux in the rap millieu? Who knew? http://t.co/3T3KBcsFsI https://t.co/LYhXnKoox9 | Apr 10 17:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Snoop Dogg Using Linux While Being Chased by a Stormtrooper Is Real - Softpedia | Apr 10 17:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> instagram.com | Instagram | Apr 10 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SalvajeUnitario/status/586565641307561985 | Apr 10 17:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SalvajeUnitario: "@bernerlap: @salvajeunitario @zodiacnein @schestowitz & a complete inability to use google translate :)" He seems orphan of mother language | Apr 10 17:05 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5913152 | Apr 11 04:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Brian Fagioli no longer insinuates that #linuxmint is sexist for merely using non-male names for releases http://betanews.com/2015/04/10/linux-mint-debian-edition-2-betsy-is-here-will-you-download-mate-or-cinnamon/ | Apr 11 04:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> betanews.com | Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 'Betsy' is here -- will you download MATE or Cinnamon? [ http://ur1.ca/k5ekn ] | Apr 11 04:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah I'm sure that's why. ALL HAIL THE CULT OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!" | Apr 11 04:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5914077 | Apr 11 12:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If Paul wants to paint himself "anti-NSA" (for cheap gains) he should put links to #gnu #linux distros, not snakeoil http://thehill.com/policy/technology/238070-rand-paul-sells-nsa-spy-cam-blocker | Apr 11 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | "In all fairness, a sticker or slider over the webcam is, while simple, also exceptionally effective at blocking video surveillance via a compromised host, regardless of OS." | Apr 11 12:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thehill.com | Rand Paul sells ‘NSA spy cam blocker’ | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/k5h00 ] | Apr 11 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | "+1@Harka' | Apr 11 12:30 |
| schestowitz | What about the microphone? Much more effective for amassing dirt or self-incriminating evidence. | Apr 11 12:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5914179 | Apr 11 12:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any examples (yet) of terror plots in #us or #uk being foiled by mass #surveillance (not plots orchestrated by their 'foilers')? | Apr 11 12:32 | |
| schestowitz | "Not that I know of." | Apr 11 12:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/586868742417620992 https://twitter.com/okoeroo/status/586868902052941824 | Apr 11 12:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@angrymofo: @schestowitz 'Blockchains' appear to be the perfect place for storing public key information, everyone has all the data. Insert only, etc... | Apr 11 12:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@okoeroo: @schestowitz @annejanbrouwer An excellent model indeed. The only step-up would be a TRNG from there. | Apr 11 12:34 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5914747 | Apr 11 16:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@majestyx@nerdpol.ch reshared: #mozilla #firefox not secure or #privacy preserving, not just because it sends users' search data to #microsoft #nsa http://www.extremetech.com/computing/202809-mozilla-disables-new-firefox-features-to-address-critical-security-flaw | Apr 11 16:16 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.extremetech.com | Mozilla disables new Firefox features to address critical security flaw | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/k5gws ] | Apr 11 16:16 | |
| schestowitz | "but I meany also for OS X" | Apr 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | None that I know of.. | Apr 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5915332 | Apr 11 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama's excessive drone strikes in #Somalia intensifies hate against Christians and the U.S. http://www.catholic.org/news/international/africa/story.php?id=59521 counterproductive | Apr 11 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | "counterproductive? The USA doesn't want peace. It wants enemies. Good for justifying its aggression, good for business." | Apr 11 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.catholic.org | Obama's excessive drone strikes in Somalia intensifies hate against Christians and the U.S. - Africa - International - News - Catholic Online [ http://ur1.ca/k5i49 ] | Apr 11 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5915693 | Apr 11 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Young and stupid: people who are given automatic rifles http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Costly-false-alarm-396264 | Apr 11 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | "And as in the US with swatting, the biggest problem is not Israeli soldiers killing Palestinians for no valid reason, but the one making the call." | Apr 11 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.jpost.com | Costly false alarm - Opinion - Jerusalem Post [ http://ur1.ca/k5i4c ] | Apr 11 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/586925341966499842 | Apr 11 16:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Another extraordinary example of censorship by troll army: http://t.co/AJhXMSi9xF | Apr 11 16:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.thestar.com | Toronto church says it won’t allow Ukrainian-born pianist to perform | Toronto Star | Apr 11 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5915069 | Apr 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | "I wonder if terrorist are jealous of this and hate the US." | Apr 11 16:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 8th grader "arrested on felony charges...breaking into his teacher’s computer to change" wallpaper http://time.com/3817582/boy-arrested-computer-background/ | Apr 11 16:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> time.com | 8th Grader's Felony Charges For Changing Teacher's Computer Background [ http://ur1.ca/k5i96 ] | Apr 11 16:45 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5920699 | Apr 12 16:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Apparently, calling 'Chairman Mao' a "son of a bitch" is not allowed http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150409000138&cid=1101 #china #censorship | Apr 12 16:34 | |
| schestowitz__ | "With friends like US officials ..." | Apr 12 16:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wantchinatimes.com | 'CIA agent' blamed for video of CCTV host badmouthing Mao: Duowei｜WantChinaTimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/k5olp ] | Apr 12 16:34 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5921493 | Apr 12 16:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anti-Piracy Threats Trigger Massive Surge in VPN Usage http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-threats-trigger-massive-surge-in-vpn-usage-150411/ how about those using #vpn for #privacy reasons? | Apr 12 16:35 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | Anti-Piracy Threats Trigger Massive Surge in VPN Usage | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/k5om7 ] | Apr 12 16:35 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "This week news broke that the makers of Dallas Buyers Club have the court’s approval to go after 4,726 alleged movie pirates in Australia, opening the door to many more copyright lawsuits." | Apr 12 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Can't believe that many people watched that fucking movie. | Apr 12 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 16:35 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.gamespot.com/articles/get-telltale-s-game-of-thrones-episode-one-free-fo/1100-6426564/ | Apr 12 16:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.gamespot.com | Get Telltale's Game of Thrones Episode One Free for Android on Amazon - GameSpot [ http://ur1.ca/k5onb ] | Apr 12 16:40 | |
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| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I have read that many times people download movies and do not see them. If watching a movie is "for free" you might never watch it or start watching it and stop if the movie is utter crap, or just watch it to kill time. If the movie costs a lot like going to a movie theather then people think more carefully whether watching it or not. | Apr 12 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I have read also than some companies make crappy movies and put them on the Internet looking for someone to sue; the business of those kind of companies is not selling movies but extorting downloaders. | Apr 12 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe they want to give an impression of high demand :-) by suing many | Apr 12 19:07 |
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| *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 | Apr 12 21:08 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5922780 | Apr 12 21:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. Air Force Fires General Who Threatened Airmen With ‘Treason’ https://medium.com/war-is-boring/u-s-air-force-fires-general-who-threatened-airmen-with-treason-63d8cb25aaf9 threats to people who speak truth, truth as treason | Apr 12 21:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> medium.com | U.S. Air Force Fires General Who Threatened Airmen With ‘Treason’ — War Is Boring — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/k5qe8 ] | Apr 12 21:46 | |
| schestowitz__ | "With Russia backing separatist rebels in Ukraine and even threatening to nuke Denmark, the hard-hitting jets are show of force intended to calm American allies. LOL :D" | Apr 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Lala Land | Apr 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5922381 | Apr 12 21:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In a system that has people deluded into thinking the only remaining recourse is to vote, protest rights are increasingly crushed | Apr 12 21:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "An eduative program is necessary in order to teach people that the parliamentarian system is not democracy. Democracy is the system that exists in Switzerland which is older than their parliamentarian system and which overrides the parliamentarian system. citizen initiated referendums which are binding on parliament. It works and has been working longer than the majority of people have had the vote in the rest of Europe. Some cantons | Apr 12 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | have had it for over 500 years :)" | Apr 12 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | So what's in it for the super-rich? They can't just bribe millions of people.... | Apr 12 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5922393 | Apr 12 21:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Countries that force all citizens to vote (or face penalties/prosecution) go further than banning protests #sweden |census obligatory in #uk | Apr 12 21:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | The outcome of votes is controlled, whether voting is obligatory or not, by the media. | Apr 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | All parties in parliament should be given equal representation in the media. | Apr 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | Since the UK doesn't have proportional representation, all parties receiving a certain per cent of the total vote should be given equal representation in the media. | Apr 12 21:48 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/mughalbha/status/586808031238696962 | Apr 12 23:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mughalbha: #Israel Secret relations with Gulf States - #WikiLeaks blows cover off Israel's covert Gulf states ties http://t.co/Q244rE0URq | Apr 12 23:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.haaretz.com | WikiLeaks blows cover off Israel's covert Gulf states ties - Israel News | Haaretz | Apr 12 23:55 | |
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