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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5955822 | Apr 19 00:20 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance (Facebook) for all is NOT #internet for all http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mark-zuckerberg/11545289/Mark-Zuckerberg-responds-to-Internet.org-net-neutrality-concerns.html | Apr 19 00:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | "lol" | Apr 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "Fuckerberg" | Apr 19 00:20 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Apr 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 19 00:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 19 00:21 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊), what are to adapt to environment? Mutations are random. Genetic engineering is a collection of techniques for inducing non-random mutations." | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "haha.. So BTCorn is just a mutation from corn. Nice to hear the new definition of transgenesis." | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "haha.. So BTCorn is just a mutation from corn. Nice to hear the new definition of transgenesis." | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | That's an imagination. | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | It assumes linear cause and effect, that one cause has exactly one effect and that that effect is perfectly known. Which is unmitigated nonsense. | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | Some people think of genetic sequences like a series of binary switches, as if nature operates as a semi-conductor with gates :) haha | Apr 19 00:22 |
| razielle_tzu | heh, true | Apr 19 00:22 |
| MinceR | part of nature indeed does | Apr 19 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | which parts? | Apr 19 00:23 |
| schestowitz__ | except thinks like arm or no arm? | Apr 19 00:23 |
| MinceR | after all, semiconductors built by humans are, like humans themselves, parts of nature :> | Apr 19 00:23 |
| schestowitz__ | the brain isn't reducible to zeroes and ones, there are synapses | Apr 19 00:23 |
| *schestowitz__ fixes the sarcasm meter | Apr 19 00:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5955842 | Apr 19 00:24 |
| MinceR | it's technicality, not sarcasm | Apr 19 00:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can the internet be saved without harming democracy? http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/17/can-the-internet-be-saved-without-harming-democracy #internet | Apr 19 00:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Can the internet be saved without harming democracy? | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/k79lr ] | Apr 19 00:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Will we ever trust the Guardian? We are all condemned to subjectivity, futile to pretend otherwise. | Apr 19 00:24 |
| schestowitz__ | But with the internet we have far more choice than with print, radio or tv. | Apr 19 00:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Publishers (for all media), and copyrights for published, act as gatekeepers (censors). | Apr 19 00:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 19 01:01 |
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| schestowitz__ | I'm sort of seeing that as the problematic underlying assumption in this entire thread. | Apr 19 01:01 |
| schestowitz__ | The assumption is that humans can emulate nature in mutations, doing something no more harmful than natural mutations, even without the constraints of natural selection. And they claim that they have perfect knowledge of the outcome. | Apr 19 01:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Our entire history, in which technological achievements have given rise to new problems which are often worse than the problems they solve, shows that to absolute crap. | Apr 19 01:01 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898735 | Apr 19 01:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Jolla Communicator for Ubuntu Helps Users Control Their Jolla Smartphones http://news.softpedia.com/news/Jolla-Communicator-For-Ubuntu-Helps-Users-Control-Their-Jolla-Smartphones-477945.shtml #linux | Apr 19 01:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Jolla Communicator for Ubuntu Helps Users Control Their Jolla Smartphones - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/k7a5m ] | Apr 19 01:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Nice, but the Jolla phone has to be set to dev-mode, which makes it not really suitable for 'ordinary' users. But anyway - a good effort in the right direction ☺☺☺' | Apr 19 01:02 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 01:02 |
| schestowitz__ | @roland : dev mode is not something "special" if you want external access you need to set in the dev mode and also choose a secure password. In my case I can SSH into the phone , this app can access some things great ! | Apr 19 01:02 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5963350 | Apr 20 12:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The Library Operating System (LibOS) for #Linux is trying to build the Linux kernel's network stack..." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LibOS-Linux-Library-V3 | Apr 20 12:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Links to an interesting discussion :)" | Apr 20 12:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Library Operating System (LibOS) For Linux Still Being Pursued - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/k7po1 ] | Apr 20 12:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 20 12:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 20 12:46 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm sort of seeing that as the problematic underlying assumption in this entire thread. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | The assumption is that humans can emulate nature in mutations, doing something no more harmful than natural mutations, even without the constraints of natural selection. And they claim that they have perfect knowledge of the outcome. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | Our entire history, in which technological achievements have given rise to new problems which are often worse than the problems they solve, shows that to absolute crap. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | The problem is that with induced mutations you may end up worse. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | You also confused the genetic changes with the behavior changes. We know the exact genetic changes. What you say is that we may not know exactly all the ways in which those genetic sequences will be used. But this applies just as well to mutations. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | No, you do not know the exact genetic changes. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | This is your misconception. And it is absolute folly. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | You imagine that you can know what you are doing in biology just like you do when flipping a light switch. Life ain't like that. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | You really, really, really need to look into complexity theory to understand why what you are saying is completely foolish. | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | "The real problem is people that never touch the ground want to teach how properly grow food.. you can call them expert, but you cannot pretend we will do the same..' | Apr 20 12:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/judsontwit/status/590207791907921921 | Apr 20 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@judsontwit: @schestowitz @aimee_maree ah, memories of when Empathy was the new hotness and Pidgin was "unintegrated" | Apr 20 19:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/rdrgz_com/status/590172749974241280 | Apr 20 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rdrgz_com: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: How Microsoft Plans to Get Rid of Linux/Android http://t.co/WDc63iW2pz via @rightrelevance thanks @schestowitz | Apr 20 19:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: How Microsoft Plans to Get Rid of Linux/Android | Techrights | Apr 20 19:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5964515 | Apr 20 19:30 |
| schestowitz__ | "Yeah I'll pass on that" | Apr 20 19:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The anti-Linux piece comes from Derrick Wlodarz. "He holds numerous technical credentials from Microsoft," he says. #betanews #trolling | Apr 20 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5961191 | Apr 21 01:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Climate censorship gains popularity in states http://www.themarketbusiness.com/2015-04-17-climate-censorship-gains-popularity-in-states "not to use the terms “climate change”" | Apr 21 01:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Denying climate change will make drought go away for sure." | Apr 21 01:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.themarketbusiness.com | Climate censorship gains popularity in states | The Market Business [ http://ur1.ca/k7v8z ] | Apr 21 01:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5967694 | Apr 21 01:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 30 Years On, HURD Lives: GNU Updates Open Source Unix Kernel http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/042015/30-years-hurd-lives-gnu-updates-open-source- #gnu #hurd | Apr 21 01:13 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thevarguy.com | 30 Years On, HURD Lives: GNU Updates Open Source Unix Kernel | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy [ http://ur1.ca/k7v93 ] | Apr 21 01:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Hyphen at end of URL | Apr 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | try this link | Apr 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/042015/30-years-hurd-lives-gnu-updates-open-source- | Apr 21 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5956732 | Apr 21 01:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Change the world, you say? Anti-spying push just can’t hack it despite ‘Citizenfour’ http://www.scmp.com/comment/blogs/article/1766273/change-world-you-say-anti-spying-push-just-cant-hack-it-despite | Apr 21 01:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.scmp.com | Change the world, you say? Anti-spying push just can’t hack it despite ‘Citizenfour’ | South China Morning Post [ http://ur1.ca/k7v9e ] | Apr 21 01:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | Amazingly self contradictory article. | Apr 21 01:14 |
| schestowitz__ | In Citizenfour the state emerges as the sinister, power-crazed enemy of a wilfully ignorant public. Hollywood apart, the American public itself appears to take a more nuanced view. | Apr 21 01:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Oh wait, I'm starting to get it, he thinks approval of NSA spying is wise! That takes a great deal of willful ignorance and blind trust that should not be projected onto other people. | Apr 21 01:14 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5966863 | Apr 21 09:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is there some massive Web disruption to DNS (not just in UK) at the moment? The #internet is being super-weird at the moment, not just #bt | Apr 21 09:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "not sure, things have been a bit stop n' go for me but I'm playing with network config at the moment so can't guarantee my experience is not down to my messing about :D' | Apr 21 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Turns out it was a massive coincidence, many things failing at the same time | Apr 21 09:16 |
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| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150421.100655.0465964c.en.html | Apr 21 20:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.dyne.org | [Dng] Two more reasons for Devuan [ http://ur1.ca/k80m2 ] | Apr 21 20:11 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > systemd has a long way to go before it even reaches alpha, why the fuck | Apr 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > is it going into production anywhere at all? | Apr 21 20:11 |
| MinceR | and why is the FSF promoting distros that force their users to use systemd? | Apr 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | gnome uses undocumented APIs to connect to systemd-logind, which it requires | Apr 21 20:14 |
| MinceR | and we're supposed consider them free software | Apr 21 20:14 |
| MinceR | hm, maybe those distros didn't make such a release yet | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150421.100655.0465964c.en.html | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | > systemd has a long way to go before it even reaches alpha, why the fuck | Apr 21 20:17 |
| MinceR | i was sure blag already shipped systemd as they're tracking fedora which had it for ages | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | > is it going into production anywhere at all? | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | oops, double paste | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | FSF is trying to avoid picking sides there | Apr 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | which is the right thing to do | Apr 21 20:17 |
| MinceR | no, it is not | Apr 21 20:17 |
| MinceR | picking sides on the issue of freedom is what the FSF should be all about | Apr 21 20:18 |
| MinceR | they should be fighting lock-in and secret APIs, not encouraging them | Apr 21 20:18 |
| MinceR | it seems they've abandoned their cause | Apr 21 20:18 |
| MinceR | a while ago, they (correctly) took sides against mono | Apr 21 20:18 |
| MinceR | what changed? | Apr 21 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | [20:23] <MinceR> parabola is already pushing systemd in its past releases, though i've heard there's some effort to support non-lendows systems too | Apr 21 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | [20:23] <MinceR> trisquel, blag (and eventually gnewsense) will force systemd on the user | Apr 21 20:26 |
| schestowitz | or be no longer maintained | Apr 21 20:26 |
| schestowitz | it takes manpower to avoid i | Apr 21 20:26 |
| schestowitz | *it | Apr 21 20:26 |
| schestowitz | and other systems will get neglected as systemd takes their place | Apr 21 20:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, well, computing freedom takes manpower to maintain | Apr 21 20:26 |
| MinceR | might as well put winblows and macos on that list and remove everything else | Apr 21 20:27 |
| MinceR | or post "the cause is lost and we're giving up -- FSF" instead | Apr 21 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 21 20:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 21 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://aamjanata.com/gm-issue-explained-for-technology-lovers/ | Apr 21 20:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-aamjanata.com | GM issue explained for technology lovers « Aam Janata [ http://ur1.ca/k80s3 ] | Apr 21 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | "Plus, it turns out that insect is already evolving to beat the BT-toxin, and there’s other pests coming in too, resulting in farmers having to resume spraying pesticides on their crops." | Apr 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | And ummm, insects evolve faster than longer-lived organisms like humans. | Apr 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | "That is called evolution, and we know since long long time.. GMO idea is just the same as pesticide idea. No one want to understand why we have so many pest (wrong agricultural practice, high amount of fertilizer, ecc). They just want to call them pest and destroy them.. Probably pest are terrorist, they support bin laden, ISIS, ecc.." | Apr 21 20:54 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5972934 | Apr 22 10:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There's a Place That's Nearly Perfect for Growing Food. It's Not California. http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/04/decalifornify-cotton-vegetables-fruit-south #nutrition #climate | Apr 22 10:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.motherjones.com | There's a Place That's Nearly Perfect for Growing Food. It's Not California. | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/k83ei ] | Apr 22 10:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Cotton consumes more than 50% of pesticides, and could be largely displaced by hemp, which requires no pesticide. It can also till the soil with it's tap roots, fix nitrogen, and be grown on either side of alternative "primary" crops (it can be grown before and after most growing seasons). This would be a huge economic boon for the South, and protect the Gulf of Mexico from run-off contamination." | Apr 22 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't read the article yet. I just saw "cotton" and "south" :0p" | Apr 22 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Ah | Apr 22 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I just spoke to Dayna from Midland Hotel. For returning members it would cost 50 pounds per month instead of 60 and there are no joining fees (50 pounds) for returning members. Opening date is expected to be June 6th. They'll do some viewings and stuff, or sit down and speak with potential members about plans as soon as around now; the gym downstairs is still a bit of a mess, not in shape to be viewed yet... | Apr 22 10:48 |
| roy_ | https://youtu.be/CesHr99ezWE | Apr 22 13:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: U.S. Territories (HBO) - YouTube | Apr 22 13:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/590862440688185346 | Apr 22 21:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Morality124: @schestowitz And citing Zoe Quinn... AGAIN... ugh. @Sargon_of_Akkad | Apr 22 21:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/590862688550580224 | Apr 22 21:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Morality124: This doesn't sound nefarious at all. @Integralmathyt @Sargon_of_Akkad @thunderf00t @TheRalphRetort #GamerGate https://t.co/FlGxFrejqZ | Apr 22 21:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Twitter announces crackdown on abuse with new filter and tighter rules http://t.co/qIOmwi9bpt thought police & #censorship | Apr 22 21:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/terminsane/status/590988732158750720 | Apr 22 21:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@terminsane: #Turkey will become stronger when it has the guts to admit to its past. Until then, they're liable to repeat it. @schestowitz | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/johngoode/status/590422342251216897 https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/590753682737778689 https://twitter.com/Ipkat/status/590450509208760320 https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/590751510604214272 | Apr 22 21:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@johngoode: I'm recruiting a full-time Drupal Dev. Small projects + 3rd Line Support. F/E, Theming, B/E. Office based KT13. #NoRecruitmentConsultants | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TheEconomist: Gendercide. Sex selective abortions in China and India have resulted in 109m "missing" girls http://t.co/2PaSf4N5Da http://t.co/cLfjpb750i | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.economist.com | The marriage squeeze in India and China: Bare branches, redundant males | The Economist | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TheEconomist: Gendercide. Sex selective abortions in China and India have resulted in 109m "missing" girls http://t.co/2PaSf4N5Da http://t.co/cLfjpb750i | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Ipkat: Back to the EU patent package: with a ruling on its legality impending on 5 May, heavyweight debate continues to rage http://t.co/tpdOCjz6fL | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> tinyurl.com | NO TITLE | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: Unitary Patent Court agreement is your worst nightmare http://t.co/hVM9Myrnw6 | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> docs.google.com | Response to Wouter Pors.docx | Apr 22 21:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/mooond/status/590169816708841472 | Apr 22 21:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mooond: https://t.co/fr9qVdOz0F john oliver on #patents mostly just a critique of trivial patents and patent trolls but entertaining | Apr 22 21:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Patents (HBO) - YouTube | Apr 22 21:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | > On 15-04-16 9:30 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:>> Here's my key... | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > Sorry, was travelling. | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > OK, here's how you can fix this in future: | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > $ ssh roy@ | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > sudo /sbin/initctl stop squirtbot | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > sudo /sbin/initctl start squirtbot | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Fantastic, I've just checked access and it works. :-) | Apr 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | > > -Microsoft 'embraces' Cyanogen to make CyanogenMod a distro through | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > > which Cyanogen partners will spread Microsoft spyware | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > > Does this adequately explain the relationship? | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > It leaves the most important question unanswered. | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > Will the CyanogenMod distro that users install | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > contain these Microsoft apps? Does it contain them now? | Apr 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that their latest release contains them. I have not downloaded or anything like this to confirm it. | Apr 22 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979503 | Apr 23 17:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton–Bolshevik? http://fair.org/home/hillary-clinton-bolshevik/ #clinton | Apr 23 17:32 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fair.org | Hillary Clinton–Bolshevik? — FAIR [ http://ur1.ca/k8c7q ] | Apr 23 17:32 | |
| schestowitz | Well, this election, like others, will be "fun" - i.e. boring. | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | They've never really heard of going for the ball rather than the 'man, have they? Especially the "crazies" (neocons, freepers (freerepublicans/tea party) etc.). | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Would be nice to have a Lenin - a great mind, like Bismark etc. - intelligent speeches and writings - talking to one as if one were intelligent. :D | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | I remember the warm up for the 2000 election - with porn pictures of Bill or Hilary Clinton spammed in (left-wing!) mailing lists. | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Didn't quite get that, since neither of them were campaigning - but who ever said that the crazies were that focussed - they just hit out at anything that's vaguely liberal - they would have probably regarded Hermann Goering as a wet, bleeding heart liberal. | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983828 | Apr 23 17:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google AFAIK collects a lot of data, but never sells any of it. #prism is a different issue because data is passed not to private companies | Apr 23 17:34 | |
| schestowitz | "LOL Ads don't count as "selling data." They target the ads to individuals with that data, so I'm pretty sure that's selling data. They're making billions off of that data." | Apr 23 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Hosted on github ... facepalm. | Apr 23 17:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981868 | Apr 23 17:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to Detect Sneaky NSA ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks https://www.wired.com/2015/04/researchers-uncover-method-detect-nsa-quantum-insert-hacks#start-of-content #nsa #surveillance by #cracking | Apr 23 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | "Hosted on github ... facepalm." | Apr 23 17:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | How to Detect Sneaky NSA 'Quantum Insert' Attacks | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k8c8t ] | Apr 23 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983828 | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | "LOL Ads don't count as "selling data." They target the ads to individuals with that data, so I'm pretty sure that's selling data. They're making billions off of that data." | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Google collects way too much data. They know what people search (Google Search), which websites they visit (Analytics, Google+ buttons), whom they know (Google Contacts, Android, GMail), where they go (Android, Google Maps), whom they talk to (Hangouts, GMail), and whatnot. This is not a lot, this is really too much IMHO. | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Any big data collection will sooner or later be exploited, not only by the collecting company itself but also by third parties like other commercial entities or governmental agencies. If you have a close look at the amount of information companies like Google or Facebook are able to gather about individuals, it's really scary. | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Google - unlike FB - does not sell this data | Apr 23 17:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979463 | Apr 23 17:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Everyone I speak to (except one person so far) hates Windows 8.x. One who's a retired professor is shocked that some PCs still come with it. | Apr 23 17:38 | |
| schestowitz | "People on G+ still try to tell me that Nokia's demise was not Microsoft and Windows." | Apr 23 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Many believe (more and more over time) that Nazis lost only because of UK+US | Apr 23 17:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/591285790191259648 | Apr 23 17:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @schestowitz @dshav82 Heard Ukip joining the fight earlier: Declaring an Arab man's Englishness. | Apr 23 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979258 | Apr 23 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #tesco Market Street #manchester 0 (yes, ZERO) staff in checkout, 12 self-checkout machines. Another sign of where Tesco is heading... | Apr 23 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Apr 23 18:00 |
| schestowitz | yep, I've been shopping at cheaper shops for a couple of years now and saved a shitload of cash. | Apr 23 18:00 |
| schestowitz | #EveryLittleHelps :D | Apr 23 18:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981117 | Apr 23 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 30 Percent of New Server Equipment Goes to... Servers.... but #idc promotes nonsense/BS buzzwords like 'cloud' http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/30-Percent-of-New-Server-Equipment-Goes-to-Cloud-Infrastructure | Apr 23 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "=)" | Apr 23 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linux-magazine.com | 30 Percent of New Server Equipment Goes to Clou... » Linux Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/k8chp ] | Apr 23 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983714 | Apr 23 18:06 |
| schestowitz | "Sure, if you do not live in a country already hot like mine. This weather is driving me crazy, the electricity bills suddenly tripled (not related to climate change) and it just started Spring." | Apr 23 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Climate Ruin vs. #ClimateChange http://www.prwatch.org/news/2015/04/12790/climate-change-versus-climate-ruin ""Global Warming" sounds like a nice respite on a cold winter's evening." | Apr 23 18:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.prwatch.org | Climate Ruin vs. Climate Change | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/k8cjh ] | Apr 23 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981780 | Apr 23 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It is not unthinkable that one say advocating #privacy will be viewed by the public like advocating legalisation of marijuana | Apr 23 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Like if one was a terrorists apologist? I can imagine that." | Apr 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981735 | Apr 23 18:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "If you bought it, you should own it—simple as that. " http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/ #dmca an attack on basic rights | Apr 23 18:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | We Can't Let John Deere Destroy the Very Idea of Ownership | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k8ccx ] | Apr 23 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "It takes two to play this game: one that sells things under crappy conditions and other that happily buys them." | Apr 23 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979598 | Apr 23 18:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It turns out that criminal #microsoft is now trying to aggravate the #debian community from within. Article tomorrow... | Apr 23 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Way back in 2005, their trolls were bragging about infiltrating the Debian community. I would think the community could protect itself by ignoring them." | Apr 23 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Any links? | Apr 23 18:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981735 | Apr 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | "It takes two to play this game: one that sells things under crappy conditions and other that happily buys them." | Apr 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | "What is this anti-farmer vibe that keeps coming out in the replies to this article? Are you kidding me? You think the farmers aren't pissed about this? Farmers are the most DIY people you could even hope to be. And they're the people who are bringing the issue up, so please stop being such an urban bigot. Farmers HATE factory-farming, patents encomberances (from GMO's, to tractor DRM), Fortune 100 conglomerates, etc. You pretty much | Apr 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | have to be hardcore committed to the principles of self-reliance to be an independent farmer these days." | Apr 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | Then the solution will be simple: farmers will stop buying John Deere and it will backtrack or be driven to banckrupcy at least in the US. | Apr 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | Problem solved. | Apr 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983744 | Apr 24 09:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Based on words from anonymous insiders, I am not pretty much convinced that #duckduckgo knows it's a fraud on #privacy and profits from it | Apr 24 09:41 | |
| schestowitz | "This reminds me of this south park episode http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Something_Wall-Mart_This_Way_Comes ,replace superstore with search engine." | Apr 24 09:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-southpark.wikia.com | Something Wall-Mart This Way Comes - South Park Archives - Cartman, Stan, Kenny, Kyle [ http://ur1.ca/k8iot ] | Apr 24 09:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5987313 | Apr 24 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #openoffice in the #libreoffice era struggles http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/042315/whats-next-apaches-open-source-office-suite-openoffice http://www.pcworld.com/article/2913764/openoffice-development-is-looking-grim-as-developers-flock-to-libreoffice.html http://www.extremetech.com/computing/203979-is-openoffice-dying #odf | Apr 24 20:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thevarguy.com | What's Next for Apache's Open Source Office Suite, OpenOffice? | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy [ http://ur1.ca/k8mpu ] | Apr 24 20:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pcworld.com | OpenOffice development is looking grim as developers flock to LibreOffice | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/k8mpv ] | Apr 24 20:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.extremetech.com | Is OpenOffice on its way out? | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/k8mpw ] | Apr 24 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | Indeed. I imagine the only people who still use #openoffice are the 'doze users who don't know about #libreoffice."" | Apr 24 20:43 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5955822 | Apr 19 00:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance (Facebook) for all is NOT #internet for all http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mark-zuckerberg/11545289/Mark-Zuckerberg-responds-to-Internet.org-net-neutrality-concerns.html | Apr 19 00:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | "lol" | Apr 19 00:18 |
| schestowitz__ | "Fuckerberg" | Apr 19 00:18 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Apr 19 00:18 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 19 00:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 19 00:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊), what are to adapt to environment? Mutations are random. Genetic engineering is a collection of techniques for inducing non-random mutations." | Apr 19 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "haha.. So BTCorn is just a mutation from corn. Nice to hear the new definition of transgenesis." | Apr 19 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "haha.. So BTCorn is just a mutation from corn. Nice to hear the new definition of transgenesis." | Apr 19 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | That's an imagination. | Apr 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | It assumes linear cause and effect, that one cause has exactly one effect and that that effect is perfectly known. Which is unmitigated nonsense. | Apr 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | ' | Apr 19 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Some people think of genetic sequences like a series of binary switches, as if nature operates as a semi-conductor with gates :) haha | Apr 19 00:20 |
| razielle_tzu | heh, true | Apr 19 00:20 |
| MinceR | part of nature indeed does | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | which parts? | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | except thinks like arm or no arm? | Apr 19 00:21 |
| MinceR | after all, semiconductors built by humans are, like humans themselves, parts of nature :> | Apr 19 00:21 |
| schestowitz__ | the brain isn't reducible to zeroes and ones, there are synapses | Apr 19 00:21 |
| *schestowitz__ fixes the sarcasm meter | Apr 19 00:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5955842 | Apr 19 00:22 |
| MinceR | it's technicality, not sarcasm | Apr 19 00:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can the internet be saved without harming democracy? http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/17/can-the-internet-be-saved-without-harming-democracy #internet | Apr 19 00:22 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Can the internet be saved without harming democracy? | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/k79lr ] | Apr 19 00:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Will we ever trust the Guardian? We are all condemned to subjectivity, futile to pretend otherwise. | Apr 19 00:22 |
| schestowitz__ | But with the internet we have far more choice than with print, radio or tv. | Apr 19 00:23 |
| schestowitz__ | Publishers (for all media), and copyrights for published, act as gatekeepers (censors). | Apr 19 00:23 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 19 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm sort of seeing that as the problematic underlying assumption in this entire thread. | Apr 19 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | The assumption is that humans can emulate nature in mutations, doing something no more harmful than natural mutations, even without the constraints of natural selection. And they claim that they have perfect knowledge of the outcome. | Apr 19 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | Our entire history, in which technological achievements have given rise to new problems which are often worse than the problems they solve, shows that to absolute crap. | Apr 19 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5898735 | Apr 19 01:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Jolla Communicator for Ubuntu Helps Users Control Their Jolla Smartphones http://news.softpedia.com/news/Jolla-Communicator-For-Ubuntu-Helps-Users-Control-Their-Jolla-Smartphones-477945.shtml #linux | Apr 19 01:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Jolla Communicator for Ubuntu Helps Users Control Their Jolla Smartphones - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/k7a5m ] | Apr 19 01:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Nice, but the Jolla phone has to be set to dev-mode, which makes it not really suitable for 'ordinary' users. But anyway - a good effort in the right direction ☺☺☺' | Apr 19 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 19 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | @roland : dev mode is not something "special" if you want external access you need to set in the dev mode and also choose a secure password. In my case I can SSH into the phone , this app can access some things great ! | Apr 19 01:00 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5963350 | Apr 20 12:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The Library Operating System (LibOS) for #Linux is trying to build the Linux kernel's network stack..." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LibOS-Linux-Library-V3 | Apr 20 12:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Links to an interesting discussion :)" | Apr 20 12:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | Library Operating System (LibOS) For Linux Still Being Pursued - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/k7po1 ] | Apr 20 12:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 20 12:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 20 12:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm sort of seeing that as the problematic underlying assumption in this entire thread. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | The assumption is that humans can emulate nature in mutations, doing something no more harmful than natural mutations, even without the constraints of natural selection. And they claim that they have perfect knowledge of the outcome. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Our entire history, in which technological achievements have given rise to new problems which are often worse than the problems they solve, shows that to absolute crap. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | The problem is that with induced mutations you may end up worse. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | You also confused the genetic changes with the behavior changes. We know the exact genetic changes. What you say is that we may not know exactly all the ways in which those genetic sequences will be used. But this applies just as well to mutations. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | No, you do not know the exact genetic changes. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | This is your misconception. And it is absolute folly. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | You imagine that you can know what you are doing in biology just like you do when flipping a light switch. Life ain't like that. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | You really, really, really need to look into complexity theory to understand why what you are saying is completely foolish. | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | "The real problem is people that never touch the ground want to teach how properly grow food.. you can call them expert, but you cannot pretend we will do the same..' | Apr 20 12:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/judsontwit/status/590207791907921921 | Apr 20 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@judsontwit: @schestowitz @aimee_maree ah, memories of when Empathy was the new hotness and Pidgin was "unintegrated" | Apr 20 19:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/rdrgz_com/status/590172749974241280 | Apr 20 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rdrgz_com: Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: How Microsoft Plans to Get Rid of Linux/Android http://t.co/WDc63iW2pz via @rightrelevance thanks @schestowitz | Apr 20 19:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: How Microsoft Plans to Get Rid of Linux/Android | Techrights | Apr 20 19:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5964515 | Apr 20 19:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "Yeah I'll pass on that" | Apr 20 19:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The anti-Linux piece comes from Derrick Wlodarz. "He holds numerous technical credentials from Microsoft," he says. #betanews #trolling | Apr 20 19:28 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5961191 | Apr 21 01:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Climate censorship gains popularity in states http://www.themarketbusiness.com/2015-04-17-climate-censorship-gains-popularity-in-states "not to use the terms “climate change”" | Apr 21 01:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Denying climate change will make drought go away for sure." | Apr 21 01:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.themarketbusiness.com | Climate censorship gains popularity in states | The Market Business [ http://ur1.ca/k7v8z ] | Apr 21 01:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5967694 | Apr 21 01:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 30 Years On, HURD Lives: GNU Updates Open Source Unix Kernel http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/042015/30-years-hurd-lives-gnu-updates-open-source- #gnu #hurd | Apr 21 01:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thevarguy.com | 30 Years On, HURD Lives: GNU Updates Open Source Unix Kernel | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy [ http://ur1.ca/k7v93 ] | Apr 21 01:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Hyphen at end of URL | Apr 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | try this link | Apr 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/042015/30-years-hurd-lives-gnu-updates-open-source- | Apr 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5956732 | Apr 21 01:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Change the world, you say? Anti-spying push just can’t hack it despite ‘Citizenfour’ http://www.scmp.com/comment/blogs/article/1766273/change-world-you-say-anti-spying-push-just-cant-hack-it-despite | Apr 21 01:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.scmp.com | Change the world, you say? Anti-spying push just can’t hack it despite ‘Citizenfour’ | South China Morning Post [ http://ur1.ca/k7v9e ] | Apr 21 01:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | Amazingly self contradictory article. | Apr 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | In Citizenfour the state emerges as the sinister, power-crazed enemy of a wilfully ignorant public. Hollywood apart, the American public itself appears to take a more nuanced view. | Apr 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Oh wait, I'm starting to get it, he thinks approval of NSA spying is wise! That takes a great deal of willful ignorance and blind trust that should not be projected onto other people. | Apr 21 01:12 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 21 01:12 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5966863 | Apr 21 09:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is there some massive Web disruption to DNS (not just in UK) at the moment? The #internet is being super-weird at the moment, not just #bt | Apr 21 09:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | "not sure, things have been a bit stop n' go for me but I'm playing with network config at the moment so can't guarantee my experience is not down to my messing about :D' | Apr 21 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Turns out it was a massive coincidence, many things failing at the same time | Apr 21 09:14 |
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| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150421.100655.0465964c.en.html | Apr 21 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.dyne.org | [Dng] Two more reasons for Devuan [ http://ur1.ca/k80m2 ] | Apr 21 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > systemd has a long way to go before it even reaches alpha, why the fuck | Apr 21 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > is it going into production anywhere at all? | Apr 21 20:09 |
| MinceR | and why is the FSF promoting distros that force their users to use systemd? | Apr 21 20:10 |
| MinceR | gnome uses undocumented APIs to connect to systemd-logind, which it requires | Apr 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | and we're supposed consider them free software | Apr 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | hm, maybe those distros didn't make such a release yet | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150421.100655.0465964c.en.html | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | > systemd has a long way to go before it even reaches alpha, why the fuck | Apr 21 20:15 |
| MinceR | i was sure blag already shipped systemd as they're tracking fedora which had it for ages | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | > is it going into production anywhere at all? | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | oops, double paste | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | FSF is trying to avoid picking sides there | Apr 21 20:15 |
| schestowitz | which is the right thing to do | Apr 21 20:15 |
| MinceR | no, it is not | Apr 21 20:15 |
| MinceR | picking sides on the issue of freedom is what the FSF should be all about | Apr 21 20:16 |
| MinceR | they should be fighting lock-in and secret APIs, not encouraging them | Apr 21 20:16 |
| MinceR | it seems they've abandoned their cause | Apr 21 20:16 |
| MinceR | a while ago, they (correctly) took sides against mono | Apr 21 20:16 |
| MinceR | what changed? | Apr 21 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5866352 | Apr 21 20:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Advancement' without foresight https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_285669bf45ffa790e4eb.jpg when bad ideas as dressed up as #science or progress. #monsanto #gmo #monopoly | Apr 21 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://aamjanata.com/gm-issue-explained-for-technology-lovers/ | Apr 21 20:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-aamjanata.com | GM issue explained for technology lovers « Aam Janata [ http://ur1.ca/k80s3 ] | Apr 21 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "Plus, it turns out that insect is already evolving to beat the BT-toxin, and there’s other pests coming in too, resulting in farmers having to resume spraying pesticides on their crops." | Apr 21 20:52 |
| schestowitz | And ummm, insects evolve faster than longer-lived organisms like humans. | Apr 21 20:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 21 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "That is called evolution, and we know since long long time.. GMO idea is just the same as pesticide idea. No one want to understand why we have so many pest (wrong agricultural practice, high amount of fertilizer, ecc). They just want to call them pest and destroy them.. Probably pest are terrorist, they support bin laden, ISIS, ecc.." | Apr 21 20:52 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5972934 | Apr 22 10:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There's a Place That's Nearly Perfect for Growing Food. It's Not California. http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/04/decalifornify-cotton-vegetables-fruit-south #nutrition #climate | Apr 22 10:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.motherjones.com | There's a Place That's Nearly Perfect for Growing Food. It's Not California. | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/k83ei ] | Apr 22 10:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Cotton consumes more than 50% of pesticides, and could be largely displaced by hemp, which requires no pesticide. It can also till the soil with it's tap roots, fix nitrogen, and be grown on either side of alternative "primary" crops (it can be grown before and after most growing seasons). This would be a huge economic boon for the South, and protect the Gulf of Mexico from run-off contamination." | Apr 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't read the article yet. I just saw "cotton" and "south" :0p" | Apr 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Ah | Apr 22 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I just spoke to Dayna from Midland Hotel. For returning members it would cost 50 pounds per month instead of 60 and there are no joining fees (50 pounds) for returning members. Opening date is expected to be June 6th. They'll do some viewings and stuff, or sit down and speak with potential members about plans as soon as around now; the gym downstairs is still a bit of a mess, not in shape to be viewed yet... | Apr 22 10:46 |
| roy_ | https://youtu.be/CesHr99ezWE | Apr 22 12:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: U.S. Territories (HBO) - YouTube | Apr 22 12:58 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/590862440688185346 | Apr 22 21:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Morality124: @schestowitz And citing Zoe Quinn... AGAIN... ugh. @Sargon_of_Akkad | Apr 22 21:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Morality124/status/590862688550580224 | Apr 22 21:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Morality124: This doesn't sound nefarious at all. @Integralmathyt @Sargon_of_Akkad @thunderf00t @TheRalphRetort #GamerGate https://t.co/FlGxFrejqZ | Apr 22 21:31 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Twitter announces crackdown on abuse with new filter and tighter rules http://t.co/qIOmwi9bpt thought police & #censorship | Apr 22 21:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/terminsane/status/590988732158750720 | Apr 22 21:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@terminsane: #Turkey will become stronger when it has the guts to admit to its past. Until then, they're liable to repeat it. @schestowitz | Apr 22 21:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/johngoode/status/590422342251216897 https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/590753682737778689 https://twitter.com/Ipkat/status/590450509208760320 https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/590751510604214272 | Apr 22 21:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@johngoode: I'm recruiting a full-time Drupal Dev. Small projects + 3rd Line Support. F/E, Theming, B/E. Office based KT13. #NoRecruitmentConsultants | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TheEconomist: Gendercide. Sex selective abortions in China and India have resulted in 109m "missing" girls http://t.co/2PaSf4N5Da http://t.co/cLfjpb750i | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.economist.com | The marriage squeeze in India and China: Bare branches, redundant males | The Economist | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TheEconomist: Gendercide. Sex selective abortions in China and India have resulted in 109m "missing" girls http://t.co/2PaSf4N5Da http://t.co/cLfjpb750i | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Ipkat: Back to the EU patent package: with a ruling on its legality impending on 5 May, heavyweight debate continues to rage http://t.co/tpdOCjz6fL | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> tinyurl.com | NO TITLE | Apr 22 21:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: Unitary Patent Court agreement is your worst nightmare http://t.co/hVM9Myrnw6 | Apr 22 21:35 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/mooond/status/590169816708841472 | Apr 22 21:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mooond: https://t.co/fr9qVdOz0F john oliver on #patents mostly just a critique of trivial patents and patent trolls but entertaining | Apr 22 21:36 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Patents (HBO) - YouTube | Apr 22 21:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | > On 15-04-16 9:30 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:>> Here's my key... | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > Sorry, was travelling. | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > OK, here's how you can fix this in future: | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > $ ssh roy@ | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | > sudo /sbin/initctl stop squirtbot | Apr 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | > sudo /sbin/initctl start squirtbot | Apr 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Fantastic, I've just checked access and it works. :-) | Apr 22 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | > > -Microsoft 'embraces' Cyanogen to make CyanogenMod a distro through | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > > which Cyanogen partners will spread Microsoft spyware | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > > Does this adequately explain the relationship? | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > It leaves the most important question unanswered. | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > Will the CyanogenMod distro that users install | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | > contain these Microsoft apps? Does it contain them now? | Apr 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that their latest release contains them. I have not downloaded or anything like this to confirm it. | Apr 22 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979503 | Apr 23 17:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton–Bolshevik? http://fair.org/home/hillary-clinton-bolshevik/ #clinton | Apr 23 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fair.org | Hillary Clinton–Bolshevik? — FAIR [ http://ur1.ca/k8c7q ] | Apr 23 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | Well, this election, like others, will be "fun" - i.e. boring. | Apr 23 17:30 |
| schestowitz | They've never really heard of going for the ball rather than the 'man, have they? Especially the "crazies" (neocons, freepers (freerepublicans/tea party) etc.). | Apr 23 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Would be nice to have a Lenin - a great mind, like Bismark etc. - intelligent speeches and writings - talking to one as if one were intelligent. :D | Apr 23 17:30 |
| schestowitz | I remember the warm up for the 2000 election - with porn pictures of Bill or Hilary Clinton spammed in (left-wing!) mailing lists. | Apr 23 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Didn't quite get that, since neither of them were campaigning - but who ever said that the crazies were that focussed - they just hit out at anything that's vaguely liberal - they would have probably regarded Hermann Goering as a wet, bleeding heart liberal. | Apr 23 17:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983828 | Apr 23 17:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google AFAIK collects a lot of data, but never sells any of it. #prism is a different issue because data is passed not to private companies | Apr 23 17:32 | |
| schestowitz | "LOL Ads don't count as "selling data." They target the ads to individuals with that data, so I'm pretty sure that's selling data. They're making billions off of that data." | Apr 23 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Hosted on github ... facepalm. | Apr 23 17:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981868 | Apr 23 17:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to Detect Sneaky NSA ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks https://www.wired.com/2015/04/researchers-uncover-method-detect-nsa-quantum-insert-hacks#start-of-content #nsa #surveillance by #cracking | Apr 23 17:34 | |
| schestowitz | "Hosted on github ... facepalm." | Apr 23 17:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | How to Detect Sneaky NSA 'Quantum Insert' Attacks | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k8c8t ] | Apr 23 17:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983828 | Apr 23 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "LOL Ads don't count as "selling data." They target the ads to individuals with that data, so I'm pretty sure that's selling data. They're making billions off of that data." | Apr 23 17:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Google collects way too much data. They know what people search (Google Search), which websites they visit (Analytics, Google+ buttons), whom they know (Google Contacts, Android, GMail), where they go (Android, Google Maps), whom they talk to (Hangouts, GMail), and whatnot. This is not a lot, this is really too much IMHO. | Apr 23 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Any big data collection will sooner or later be exploited, not only by the collecting company itself but also by third parties like other commercial entities or governmental agencies. If you have a close look at the amount of information companies like Google or Facebook are able to gather about individuals, it's really scary. | Apr 23 17:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Google - unlike FB - does not sell this data | Apr 23 17:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979463 | Apr 23 17:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Everyone I speak to (except one person so far) hates Windows 8.x. One who's a retired professor is shocked that some PCs still come with it. | Apr 23 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | "People on G+ still try to tell me that Nokia's demise was not Microsoft and Windows." | Apr 23 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Many believe (more and more over time) that Nazis lost only because of UK+US | Apr 23 17:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/591285790191259648 | Apr 23 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @schestowitz @dshav82 Heard Ukip joining the fight earlier: Declaring an Arab man's Englishness. | Apr 23 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979258 | Apr 23 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #tesco Market Street #manchester 0 (yes, ZERO) staff in checkout, 12 self-checkout machines. Another sign of where Tesco is heading... | Apr 23 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Apr 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz | yep, I've been shopping at cheaper shops for a couple of years now and saved a shitload of cash. | Apr 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz | #EveryLittleHelps :D | Apr 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981117 | Apr 23 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 30 Percent of New Server Equipment Goes to... Servers.... but #idc promotes nonsense/BS buzzwords like 'cloud' http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/30-Percent-of-New-Server-Equipment-Goes-to-Cloud-Infrastructure | Apr 23 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | "=)" | Apr 23 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linux-magazine.com | 30 Percent of New Server Equipment Goes to Clou... » Linux Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/k8chp ] | Apr 23 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983714 | Apr 23 18:04 |
| schestowitz | "Sure, if you do not live in a country already hot like mine. This weather is driving me crazy, the electricity bills suddenly tripled (not related to climate change) and it just started Spring." | Apr 23 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Climate Ruin vs. #ClimateChange http://www.prwatch.org/news/2015/04/12790/climate-change-versus-climate-ruin ""Global Warming" sounds like a nice respite on a cold winter's evening." | Apr 23 18:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.prwatch.org | Climate Ruin vs. Climate Change | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/k8cjh ] | Apr 23 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981780 | Apr 23 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It is not unthinkable that one say advocating #privacy will be viewed by the public like advocating legalisation of marijuana | Apr 23 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Like if one was a terrorists apologist? I can imagine that." | Apr 23 18:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981735 | Apr 23 18:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "If you bought it, you should own it—simple as that. " http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/ #dmca an attack on basic rights | Apr 23 18:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wired.com | We Can't Let John Deere Destroy the Very Idea of Ownership | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/k8ccx ] | Apr 23 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | "It takes two to play this game: one that sells things under crappy conditions and other that happily buys them." | Apr 23 18:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5979598 | Apr 23 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It turns out that criminal #microsoft is now trying to aggravate the #debian community from within. Article tomorrow... | Apr 23 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Way back in 2005, their trolls were bragging about infiltrating the Debian community. I would think the community could protect itself by ignoring them." | Apr 23 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Any links? | Apr 23 18:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5981735 | Apr 24 07:12 |
| schestowitz | "It takes two to play this game: one that sells things under crappy conditions and other that happily buys them." | Apr 24 07:12 |
| schestowitz | "What is this anti-farmer vibe that keeps coming out in the replies to this article? Are you kidding me? You think the farmers aren't pissed about this? Farmers are the most DIY people you could even hope to be. And they're the people who are bringing the issue up, so please stop being such an urban bigot. Farmers HATE factory-farming, patents encomberances (from GMO's, to tractor DRM), Fortune 100 conglomerates, etc. You pretty much | Apr 24 07:12 |
| schestowitz | have to be hardcore committed to the principles of self-reliance to be an independent farmer these days." | Apr 24 07:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 24 07:12 |
| schestowitz | Then the solution will be simple: farmers will stop buying John Deere and it will backtrack or be driven to banckrupcy at least in the US. | Apr 24 07:12 |
| schestowitz | Problem solved. | Apr 24 07:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5983744 | Apr 24 09:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Based on words from anonymous insiders, I am not pretty much convinced that #duckduckgo knows it's a fraud on #privacy and profits from it | Apr 24 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | "This reminds me of this south park episode http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Something_Wall-Mart_This_Way_Comes ,replace superstore with search engine." | Apr 24 09:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-southpark.wikia.com | Something Wall-Mart This Way Comes - South Park Archives - Cartman, Stan, Kenny, Kyle [ http://ur1.ca/k8iot ] | Apr 24 09:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5987313 | Apr 24 20:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #openoffice in the #libreoffice era struggles http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/042315/whats-next-apaches-open-source-office-suite-openoffice http://www.pcworld.com/article/2913764/openoffice-development-is-looking-grim-as-developers-flock-to-libreoffice.html http://www.extremetech.com/computing/203979-is-openoffice-dying #odf | Apr 24 20:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thevarguy.com | What's Next for Apache's Open Source Office Suite, OpenOffice? | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy [ http://ur1.ca/k8mpu ] | Apr 24 20:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pcworld.com | OpenOffice development is looking grim as developers flock to LibreOffice | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/k8mpv ] | Apr 24 20:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.extremetech.com | Is OpenOffice on its way out? | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/k8mpw ] | Apr 24 20:40 | |
| schestowitz | Indeed. I imagine the only people who still use #openoffice are the 'doze users who don't know about #libreoffice."" | Apr 24 20:40 |
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