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schestowitz"May 24 15:51
schestowitz> I see you looking up people who looked up you on Linkedin, it's about the only use of it. We've never met in real life but you once mentioned in the bottom of an email you sent me that you were visiting London. Unfortunately I didn't see it and missed the opportunity. You may remember, I did contribute a lot of the COMES docs that required transcribing from PACER images. I also contributed to Groklaw. Anyway I'm now totally retired May 24 15:51
schestowitzafter having gone half blind and developed a double case of RSI, all in the process of making billg richer, but I'm not bitter :)May 24 15:51
schestowitzHi David (real name?),May 24 15:51
schestowitzWhere do you contribute efforts these days? Do you still speak to PJ? I have not spoken to her for years now, it seems like she really did retire.May 24 15:51
schestowitzI am down in London at least once a year (my employer is near there), so maybe we can catch up one day..May 24 15:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/602510419094347777May 24 17:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz I wonder how long we have to wait before a US president is tried for treason or if they'll always be treated like monarchsMay 24 17:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602515641292103681May 24 17:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Purely an EDUCATIONAL event, i assure you.May 24 17:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/getwired/status/602516633765023744May 24 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@getwired: @matthewstinar @schestowitz Diplomatic immunity!May 24 17:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/602516665566437376May 24 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz It's one way to erase history.May 24 17:50
schestowitzThe gym where I've gone for 15 years had Nazi history.... and some say maybe torture too. #MidlandHotelMay 24 17:50
schestowitzBLOOOOOD.. No, j/kMay 24 17:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602516926313574400May 24 17:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz What are the conspirators smiling over in that photo?May 24 17:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/602517748950896640May 24 17:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz So does the White HouseMay 24 17:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602519606150868994May 24 18:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Still havn't figured out how Bush I started this mess, and they're out there drilling for Bush III.May 24 18:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602519845733732353May 24 18:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (...?...pls. clarify in DM. We Californians are dull before Church)May 24 18:03
schestowitzThat signing led to many deathsMay 24 18:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/602519568825884672May 24 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: A US senator walked out of 'Zero Dark Thirty' after 15 minutes because it was so 'false' http://t.co/9ic93FubM2 #torture #propagandaMay 24 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | A US senator walked out of Bin Laden raid movie 'Zero Dark Thirty' because it was so 'false' - Business InsiderMay 24 18:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/602521672147705856May 24 18:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthewstinar: @getwired @schestowitz Shall we begin addressing the president as "Beloved Oppressor?"May 24 18:16
schestowitzDear leaderMay 24 18:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602530197561159681May 24 18:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz That link to @Jerusalem_Post also crashed my whole system for 5 minutes here! The Bush II signing was 2004 IQ Enhancements ActMay 24 18:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602530659391770624May 24 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz What the conspirators are smiling over in the photo (2004)-- http://t.co/fAc7B5DPsuMay 24 18:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org | Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMay 24 18:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johndrinkwater/status/602540526102061058May 24 19:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@johndrinkwater: Once UK has reversed their Human Rights Act, this will happen here too *& they'll be no legal recourse* https://t.co/ngiJxVdsgSMay 24 19:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Framing and torturing US person for running a #tor server http://t.co/znBjwgpanI Media should cover this more. @PaulJDeHart @Leann02May 24 19:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/love4worldpeace/status/602541933920137216May 24 19:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@love4worldpeace: #FreeMattDehart https://t.co/7nuxMQ831CMay 24 19:39
schestowitzGOP and Hayden ... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/GenMichael-Hayden-Chinese-nationals-indicted/2015/05/19/id/645584/May 24 20:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.newsmax.com | Mike Hayden to Newsmax: China Will Hit Back For Silicon Valley Charges [ http://ur1.ca/mmstx ]May 24 20:00
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6125665May 24 23:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jeb #bush - like his brother - dislikes facts and makes up stuff http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeb-bush-not-a-shred-of-evidence-nsa-violated-rights-2015-5?r=US US courts refute himMay 24 23:53
schestowitz"Glad to know, I was waiting some random politician to claim that to feel assured."May 24 23:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | Jeb Bush: 'not a shred of evidence' NSA violated rights - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/mmhy9 ]May 24 23:53
schestowitz"Well if it's said by a Bush, then you know it must be right!"May 24 23:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/602611467125432323May 25 00:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz they are throwing money down a pit. HTML5 dogma will kill them. They should be partnering with @jollahq's SailfishOS.May 25 00:08
schestowitzagreedMay 25 00:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6130903May 25 08:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #drm distribution system and proprietary games not growing on #gnu #linux http://www.geek.com/games/steam-isnt-helping-gaming-grow-on-linux-usage-drops-to-less-than-1-1623519/May 25 08:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.geek.com | Steam isn’t helping gaming grow on Linux, usage drops to less than 1% | Games | Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/mmx20 ]May 25 08:44
schestowitz"I've said it before, but this is also probably because Steam for GNU/Linux is a buggy, unusable mess that takes up obscene amounts of resources for no real reason and crashes CONSTANTLY. And it previously was so poorly-coded that it would actually delete users' home directories. It's probably one of the worst pieces of software I've ever used."May 25 08:44
schestowitz"True - it is still rather bad - I used to load it at startup time but ran into daily crashed (and it bloody well took down the X too), and why the hell does it have to load everything but the kitchen sink, when not needed ..."May 25 08:45
schestowitz"i didn't see crushes at all. though i have to admit i see bugs from time to time."May 25 08:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6130392May 25 08:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firedoglake discredits itself by publishing #gop misdirection ploys http://firedoglake.com/2015/05/21/mena-mashup-the-truth-about-libya-emerges/May 25 08:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> firedoglake.com | MENA Mashup: The Truth About Libya Emerges | Firedoglake [ http://ur1.ca/mmx2j ]May 25 08:46
schestowitzWhether deliberately or not, they use GOP media talking points in this case. Spinning it against Clinton.May 25 08:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6130978May 25 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You Should Not be Afraid of Arch Linux, Here's Why http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Should-Not-be-Afraid-of-Arch-Linux-Here-s-Why-482092.shtml #archlinux #gnu #linuxMay 25 08:47
schestowitz"Kicked my fucking ass."May 25 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | You Should Not be Afraid of Arch Linux, Here's Why - Updated - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mmx2t ]May 25 08:47
schestowitz"Arch is awesome. I started learning on it and learned a lot in quite a short time. Later then switched to another distro to learn about stuff, that arch doesn't provide.May 25 08:48
schestowitz"May 25 08:48
schestowitz"which is this stuff that arch doesn't provide? #linuxfromscratch?"May 25 08:48
schestowitz"The old init :P :D Changing the init in Arch is possible, yes - but I started learning about a year ago - perhaps now I could manage it, but that time I decided to choose another distro ;)"May 25 08:48
schestowitz"I tried to change systemd with openRC - but that time I haven't had enough knowledge yet and systemd is quite deeply implemented in Arch. In the forum they told me, it wasn't a very good idea and choosing something else would be the better choice, than trying such hard experiments with Arch :)"May 25 08:48
schestowitzI have been learning to live with systemd myself...May 25 08:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Guyzzzer1/status/602832105220022273May 25 15:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Guyzzzer1: @schestowitz I was being sarcastic :)May 25 15:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6132775May 25 15:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #America #América #Amérique #palabras #words #language #lenguaje #idioma #langue #imperialismo #imperialism #impérialisme #geografía #géographie #geography #política #politique #politicsMay 25 15:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by miguelguardadoalbarreal@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_a1ab9c945b2e35fb97d2.jpgMay 25 15:55
schestowitz"A whole hemisphere[/]. [i]Two continents, not one. :facepalm"May 25 15:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/s_b_sh/status/602860160902660097May 25 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@s_b_sh: #ouverture #opensource in progress ... https://t.co/hCZTfjnS1gMay 25 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "I exclusively draw in Linux" https://t.co/8CCDIuDjL9May 25 16:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/602865641565986816May 25 17:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz This is why I advocate encrypting all electronic devices. It provides security against badly implemented wiping.May 25 17:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6133384May 25 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is your open source security software less secure? http://opensource.com/business/15/5/why-open-source-means-stronger-security #freesw #securityMay 25 18:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | How open source makes software more secure | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/mmzh5 ]May 25 18:01
schestowitz"less secure than what? Less secure than software you don't and can't know anything about? How can anyone make that comparison?"May 25 18:02
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RLUEYEOAS4May 25 22:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Regime Change in the Philippines - History Day - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/mn0zt ]May 25 22:48
schestowitz"Philippine history didn't even start in magellans time. It started during the Song Dynasty of China. When the young Song Dynasty emperor escaped from the invading mongols. They build an Empire here in the phillipines The "Lusong Empire" (luzon). this was during 10th century. No wonder lots of chinese in the philippines."May 25 22:48
schestowitz"Helped?!ahahaha The US paid 20000 bucks (under the table) to purchase the Philippines from Spain, as for Japan, well they really pissed the US off with lemme see... stuff they did at pearl harbor. Bottom line is-STRINGS."May 25 22:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SAwritersnet/status/602966133763919872May 26 01:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SAwritersnet: @schestowitz thanks for sharing, have a great MondayMay 26 01:35
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6126568May 26 18:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "War On Cops": Fox News Abandons Its Catchphrase When Bike Gangs Threaten Police http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/05/22/war-on-cops-fox-news-abandons-its-catchphrase-w/203748 race card at #newscorpMay 26 18:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mediamatters.org | "War On Cops": Fox News Abandons Its Catchphrase When Bike Gangs Threaten Police | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/mn6ue ]May 26 18:34
r_schestowitz"and armed ranchers challenging federal grazing fees."May 26 18:34
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6136027May 26 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Warren Buffett thinks the poor should stop blaming inequality on the rich http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/warren-buffett-thinks-that-the-poor-need-to-stop-blaming-inequality-on-the-rich-10271780.html why not? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueMay 26 18:37
r_schestowitz"May 26 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk | Warren Buffett thinks the poor should stop blaming inequality on the rich - People - News - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/mn6uw ]May 26 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ]May 26 18:37
r_schestowitzHmmmm. This is also the guy who said, “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”May 26 18:37
r_schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.htmlMay 26 18:37
r_schestowitz"May 26 18:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/mn6uy ]May 26 18:37
r_schestowitz"Buffett claims the rich are 'deserving.' He claims, "We all live far better because of Henry Ford, Steve Jobs, Sam Walton and the like," but these names--even if we rather generously consider Walton to have improved living standards--are far from the majority of rich people."May 26 18:37
r_schestowitzI love the irony of that old quote of his (which I saw before). These people are not just thieves but liars too.May 26 18:38
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6125475May 26 19:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why does #bt keep shipping Home Hubs to us, even though it's clearly unrelated to the issue (REIN)? We have four Home Hubs now.May 26 19:23
r_schestowitz"You might get for free into the wonderful business of selling routers.'May 26 19:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6136027May 26 20:08
r_schestowitz"May 26 20:08
r_schestowitzThe ‘Oracle of Omaha’ goes on believingMay 26 20:08
r_schestowitzhttps://disunitedstates.org/?p=7561May 26 20:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://disunitedstates.org/?p=7561 )May 26 20:08
r_schestowitz"May 26 20:08
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schestowitz> http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/05/26/college-administrators-education-reform-pay-column/27912921/May 27 20:44
schestowitz>May 27 20:44
schestowitz> Unfortunately many universities are increasing the numbers ofMay 27 20:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.usatoday.com | Reynolds: Fire administrators to fix higher ed [ http://ur1.ca/mnle9 ]May 27 20:44
schestowitz> administrative staff, following stupid advice from 'consulting' firms.May 27 20:44
schestowitzMaybe that's true in the US because I can't relate to that here...May 27 20:44
schestowitz>>> >> http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/05/26/college-administrators-education-reform-pay-column/27912921/May 27 21:03
schestowitz>>> >>May 27 21:03
schestowitz>>> >> Unfortunately many universities are increasing the numbers ofMay 27 21:03
schestowitz>>> >> administrative staff, following stupid advice from 'consulting' firms.May 27 21:03
schestowitz>> > Maybe that's true in the US because I can't relate to that here...May 27 21:03
schestowitz>May 27 21:03
schestowitz> Definitely true in the US.  True in Finland, Norway and Sweden too minusMay 27 21:03
schestowitz> the consulting firms.May 27 21:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6141610May 27 21:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Back in the days #mandriva staff accused #canonical of harming #gnu #linux - not just MDV http://www.zdnet.com/article/french-firm-behind-mandriva-linux-goes-out-of-business/ http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/05/26/mandria-goes-out-of-business/May 27 21:07
schestowitz""Sad day.May 27 21:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.zdnet.com | ​French firm behind Mandriva Linux goes out of business | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/mnlle ]May 27 21:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.linuxveda.com | Mandriva goes out of business - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/mnllg ]May 27 21:07
schestowitz"I used to use it. I jumped ship over to Mageia when it was obvious that Mandriva was dead. I guess now it's official."May 27 21:08
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35899/May 27 21:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Oh Snap!: Jonathan Riddell gets full support from the Kubuntu communityMay 27 21:14
schestowitz"May 27 21:14
schestowitzMajor blowback on this... I don't think Shuttleworth foresaw things turning this way.May 27 21:14
schestowitzUbuntu Community Council Can't Track Down $143,000 Worth of DonationsMay 27 21:14
schestowitz"It looks like some very poor accounting is to blameMay 27 21:14
schestowitzThe Ubuntu Community Council has made a rather troublesome discovery regarding the accounting of $143,000 in donations. From the looks of it, no one knows how this money was spent."May 27 21:14
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Community-Council-Can-...May 27 21:14
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schestowitz"May 27 21:14
schestowitz"Sheesh, that's over 1/8 of a MILLION USD$ slipping into *some* people's pockets for "necessary equipment", "miscellaneous expenses" or who-knows-what ("personal expen$e$" !!)"May 27 21:14
schestowitz"How's this gonna look for your IPO, Mark? Not good, me thinks."May 27 21:14
schestowitz"Not the new friendly Microsoft"May 27 21:15
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35900/May 27 21:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Not the new friendly Microsoft: Microsoft’s Patent Allies LG and Sony Agree to Put Microsoft Inside AndroidMay 27 21:15
schestowitz"Could someone please forward this story to Canonical and Red Hat?"May 27 21:15
schestowitzme: This is probably for CKEditor and Microsoft to resolve because we already use the latest 'dev' build of CKEditor. IE11 just cannot cope and we can't change IE11 source code. Editing of CKEditor code would be hard to maintain.May 28 01:10
schestowitzI hate IEMay 28 01:10
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Evidlocubelog: Not sure if you're still around, but do you still have the source for the poly_w2 drawing program?May 28 06:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/603810092077740032May 28 07:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Yes, Corporations are People, in Rights if not in Responsibilities. (in the recent USA, at least)May 28 07:39
schestowitzEvidlo: try asking him in #techrightsMay 28 07:39
schestowitzthat's where he has his main account, this one is a logger of hisMay 28 07:40
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oxfordite/status/603929356017278976May 28 15:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oxfordite: @schestowitz Have avoided BT for years.. #REIN can be tricky.. but if subscriber equip is source of it, law surely permits BT serve notice?May 28 15:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oxfordite/status/603938602981154816May 28 16:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oxfordite: @schestowitz Is there any pattern to the #REIN / disconnections? Have @BTretail said? @zeninternet gave me connectivity graphs to assist..May 28 16:00
r_schestowitzThey thought they had found the culprit (10 houses down), but they were wrongMay 28 16:00
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146227May 28 16:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #SourceForge hijacks #GIMP account, loads it with adware http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/05/27/sourceforge-hijacks-gimp-account-loads-it-with-adware/ #gnu #dice #advertising #graphicsMay 28 16:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.linuxveda.com | SourceForge hijacks GIMP account, loads it with adware - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/mnt80 ]May 28 16:01
r_schestowitz"https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/"May 28 16:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sourceforge.net | GIMP-Win project wasn’t hijacked, just abandoned | SourceForge Community Blog [ http://ur1.ca/mnufk ]May 28 16:01
r_schestowitz"Not abandonned...We know what they say, but: https://linuxfr.org/users/jehan/journaux/sourceforge-de-pire-en-pire-usurpation-d-identite-du-projet-gimp "May 28 16:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxfr.org | Sourceforge de pire en pire: usurpation d'identité du projet GIMP - LinuxFr.org [ http://ur1.ca/mnufm ]May 28 16:02
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oxfordite/status/603941027624439809May 28 16:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oxfordite: @schestowitz @BTretail @zeninternet I know but little, but it seems absurd #BTOpenReach w. tech+effort cannot trace #REIN esp. if a patternMay 28 16:12
r_schestowitzit has been 2 months now... they only started looking into it a month after I repeatedly reported it to them. #btMay 28 16:12
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146227May 28 16:17
r_schestowitz"Thanx Fla & ordinatous"May 28 16:17
r_schestowitzI installed GIMP on m in law's windows laptop some months ago...May 28 16:17
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/603972385272922112May 28 18:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @voidquest44 @schestowitz Hopefully, saw a council official on the bus logging into her xp desktop showing off her password and email to allMay 28 18:55
r_schestowitzNHS did this not too long ago... with a lot of sensitive data. I reckon China and Russia already know the medical conditions of us all.May 28 18:56
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/603973801706131456May 28 18:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz wrong url on this one. Here you go http://t.co/QqwSq8c0Rl ;)May 28 18:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Touch OTA Update for BQ Aquaris E4.5 Planned for Next Week - SoftpediaMay 28 18:58
r_schestowitzoopsMay 28 18:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mjg59/status/603826000170999808May 28 19:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: http://t.co/km4qoJ9xL6 I go to the effort of debunking this, he quotes my debunking and then still goes with that headline fffffffffffffffffMay 28 19:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Yet Another Major Security Deficiency in UEFI | TechrightsMay 28 19:16
r_schestowitzhttp://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/14-410.htmMay 28 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.supremecourt.gov | Search - Supreme Court of the United States [ http://ur1.ca/mnwul ]May 28 19:57
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r_schestowitzhttp://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/05/26/us-usa-court-google-idUKM1KBN0OB2JP20150526May 28 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-uk.reuters.com | Obama administration asks U.S. top court to decline Google copyright appeal | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/mnwun ]May 28 19:57
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r_schestowitzhttp://fortune.com/2015/05/26/google-oracle-api-supremecourt-obama-appeal/May 28 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fortune.com | Justice tells Supreme Court not to hear Google's API appeal - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/mnwuo ]May 28 19:57
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r_schestowitzhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/266703948/Goog-v-Oracle-Solicitor-General-Brief-CopyMay 28 19:57
r_schestowitzIn a foaming at the mouth rabid desire to screw Google for any and allMay 28 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.scribd.com | Goog v Oracle, Solicitor General Brief Copy [ http://ur1.ca/mnwuq ]May 28 19:57
r_schestowitzactivity they are going to get the rest of us as collateral damage ifMay 28 19:57
r_schestowitzAPIs become copyrightable in the US.   It boggles the mind.  The veryMay 28 19:57
r_schestowitzpurpose of APIs is violated.May 28 19:57
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/604000606441742337May 28 20:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: If the principal has so little to do that he has time to harass students, perhaps he needs to find a new job. #psychopaths. @schestowitzMay 28 20:10
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EvilWrangler/status/604005403781791744May 28 20:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EvilWrangler: @schestowitz @annejanbrouwer OMG I work @major corporation this is exactly the culture of #fear if UR not confident don't work there dammitMay 28 20:51
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148561\May 28 21:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moderator in #ubuntuforums doesn't want criticism of #microsoft to be discussed. Thread closed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2279214May 28 21:11
r_schestowitz"just like discussions critical of systemd were closed on many linux forums."May 28 21:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ubuntuforums.org | Microsoft is Again Showing Its Hatred of Free/Open Source Software by Lobbying the I [ http://ur1.ca/mnwmm ]May 28 21:11
r_schestowitzNot surprisingMay 28 21:12
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148512May 28 21:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Queen’s Speech: #SnoopersCharter is back, plus extension of #GCHQ powers http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/queens-speech-snoopers-charter-is-back-plus-extension-of-gchq-powers/ clinging on to MonarchyMay 28 21:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.co.uk | Queen’s Speech: Snooper’s Charter is back, plus extension of GCHQ powers | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/mnxl3 ]May 28 21:12
r_schestowitz"May 28 21:12
r_schestowitzThe problem they have with law enforcement is that there are too many laws. The just go along, daisy chaining laws together, until we have totalitarianism for the poorer classes - by which time, most people will be poor as far as the rich are concerned.May 28 21:12
r_schestowitzThere is no wisdom in the political class - tyrants have never needed wisdom.May 28 21:12
r_schestowitzHowever, i can see them damaging the monarchy in the same way that the Greek monarchy was destroyed. The Royal Families are seen to be far too close to this extreme right-wing political culture. And enjoying it.May 28 21:13
r_schestowitz"May 28 21:13
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146754May 28 21:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #blender3d is released http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Blender-2.75-Test-Build http://news.softpedia.com/news/Blender-2-75-Open-Source-3D-Modelling-App-Will-Be-a-Massive-Release-with-AMD-GPU-Support-482528.shtml #freesw #graphicsMay 28 21:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.phoronix.com | Blender 2.75 Allows For AMD OpenCL Support - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/mnxlw ]May 28 21:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | Blender 2.75 Open-Source 3D Modelling App Will Be a Massive Release with AMD GPU Support - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mnxlx ]May 28 21:14
r_schestowitz"OpenCL rendering, finally! Halle-freaking-lujah."May 28 21:14
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/604021238198046722 May 28 22:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz http://t.co/XcJKcWA7gd any help?May 28 22:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.elantelecom.com | Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise (REIN) « Elan Telecom | Wholesale Telecommunications for BusinessMay 28 22:10
r_schestowitzIt's for them to solveMay 28 22:10
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/604033898113318912May 28 22:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz obviously! Just thought radio trick might help when they don't....May 28 22:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148468May 28 22:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Fifa #scandal: Why the #US is policing a global game http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32889845 http://rt.com/news/262669-putin-interview-fifa-arrests/ #worldpoliceMay 28 22:45
r_schestowitz"May 28 22:45
r_schestowitz"America" is obviously anti-capitalist :DMay 28 22:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.co.uk | Fifa scandal: Why the US is policing a global game - BBC News [ http://ur1.ca/mo09j ]May 28 22:45
r_schestowitzDon't The USA know anything about business? Let me see - wait a minute - didn't Blair stop a prosecution for bribery (arms sales to Saudi Arabia) because it wasn't in the "national" interest?May 28 22:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/mo09k ]May 28 22:45
r_schestowitz"May 28 22:45
r_schestowitz/s/national/corporate/May 28 22:45
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148901May 28 22:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Class war has no borders. They just label it "war on terror". In order for multinational, globalist plutocrats to wage #war globally...May 28 22:46
r_schestowitz"borders themselves don't even exist. They're just imaginary lines after all."May 28 22:46
r_schestowitz"^ indeed.May 28 22:46
r_schestowitzThey prevent poor people from travelling, not rich peopleMay 28 22:46
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146581May 28 22:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Are The Chances for an #Ubuntu IPO? http://www.datamation.com/open-source/what-are-the-chances-for-an-ubuntu-ipo.html #canonicalMay 28 22:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.datamation.com | What Are The Chances for an Ubuntu IPO? - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/mo0ad ]May 28 22:47
r_schestowitz"lol!"May 28 22:47
MinceRcanonical is evil enough already to be publicly ownedMay 28 22:51
Evidlor_schestowitz: thanksMay 29 04:37
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schestowitzFor quite some time now we have been HotLinking images from linuxgizmos when linking to linuxgizmos articles. For the past month or so CloudFlare has been blocking it, so there's no preview. Could that behaviour be changed? Was that intended?May 29 11:36
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153862May 30 08:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reports have limited shelf life, especially on the Web. Articles about #microsoft bribing professors to recommend MS products now 'expired'.May 30 08:31
schestowitz"This is why I started a scrapbook project, somewhat like my photo album. I'm collecting interesting articles by date of publication and arranging them by symlink to topics of interest. I save a print to pdf copy and sometimes a web archive. You once told me that you saved a copy of every article you cited. That was absolutely the right thing to do. One day, we will be able to share such libraries openly on the web."May 30 08:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153705May 30 08:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passwords leaked through routers http://www.komando.com/happening-now/309955/malware-attacks-routers-steals-facebook-passwords while #bt puts back doors in them, allegedly http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/12/17/bt-back-door/1May 30 08:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.komando.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/mohpl ]May 30 08:32
schestowitz"Windows press tries to make it about "Linux"."May 30 08:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bit-tech.net | BT modems have NSA back-door, claim researchers | bit-tech.net [ http://ur1.ca/g7ws3 ]May 30 08:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153921May 30 08:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My RAM is so limited (2 GB) that I have begun running some applications on another PC over SSH (keeps some memory usage away)May 30 08:32
schestowitz"May 30 08:32
schestowitzI don't have such a collection of computers anymore, but ssh -X has been very useful to me. I've had machines dedicated to audio recording, video recording, and other special purposes. It was particularly useful for my thesis work, which required a lot of simulation.May 30 08:32
schestowitzI've started to run browsers as other users and do ssh locally to confuse some of the malice of java script.May 30 08:32
schestowitz"May 30 08:32
schestowitz"http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/desktop/low_resource_computers.html"May 30 08:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-50.80.140.55 | Low Resource Computers [ http://ur1.ca/mohpt ]May 30 08:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153728May 30 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat CEO: Public cloud "obscenely expensive at scale" http://www.techrepublic.com/article/red-hat-ceo-public-cloud-obscenely-expensive-at-scale/May 30 08:33
schestowitz"Good!"May 30 08:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techrepublic.com | Red Hat CEO: Public cloud "obscenely expensive at scale" - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/mohq3 ]May 30 08:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ShaneHudson/status/604559114476371968May 30 09:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ShaneHudson: Such a shame, Mandrake was my first introduction to Linux :) https://t.co/PyI4wvKwCVMay 30 09:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Mandriva 1998-2015 http://t.co/gVYZq760rf #gnu #linuxMay 30 09:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6152999May 30 09:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passivity of the so-called 'middle class' (a #propaganda term) enables those in power to crush it from below while inciting it 'downward'May 30 09:24
schestowitz"What would be a better term? It's easier to say than bourgeoisie."May 30 09:24
schestowitz"Then there's lower, middle, and upper middle class -but all still gradations between the neo peasantry and elites. He at the very top kicking all challengers back down the slope and everyone else repeating the procedure. Marx's idea of the middle class as hose who own degrees of the means of production does no better as a definition because ultimately what matters is how well you are kicking others down the slope or (eg) getting a May 30 09:24
schestowitzreligion or spirituality that lifts your mind out of the mileu altogether"May 30 09:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/604679909395472384May 30 17:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Maybe the tabloid that went out of business after the phone bugging scandal?May 30 17:08
schestowitzNews of the WorldMay 30 17:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/604681374616780801May 30 17:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz News of the World -- did it have pin-ups? i recall article couple yrs back how one of the tabloids dropping "page 3" Telegraph?May 30 17:13
schestowitzThe SunMay 30 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/604681854629855233May 30 17:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz Canonical is in effect adding additional restrictions on conveyance?? That is what at least one of the articles suggests....May 30 17:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/604683395701088257May 30 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz if that is correct this is a much much bigger issue than that they don't like @jriddell #ISupportJonathanMay 30 18:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/604691514866995200May 30 18:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gordonbp: @schestowitz Err the Queen is APOLITICAL and always has been. That speech is written by the Govt, not HM...May 30 18:21
schestowitzSo she's a deliverer now?May 30 18:21
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schestowitzhttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/28/u-n-report-asserts-encryption-human-right-digital-age/ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/05/29/1117224&mode=nestedMay 30 18:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-firstlook.org | U.N. Report Asserts Encryption as a Human Right in the Digital Age - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/mom8k ]May 30 18:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/mom8l ]May 30 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/604704587291820032May 30 18:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz He was a THREAT to HOLLYWOOD (c) owners.May 30 18:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6155775May 30 19:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Another reason to use #fdroid rather than #GooglePlay http://movietvtechgeeks.com/nsa-bug-for-android-available-on-google-play/ #freesw #androidMay 30 19:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> movietvtechgeeks.com | NSA Bug for Android: Available on Google Play - Movie TV Tech Geeks News [ http://ur1.ca/momi7 ]May 30 19:17
schestowitz"May 30 19:17
schestowitzWith Google Play installed you don't really own your phone:May 30 19:18
schestowitzhttp://www.computerworld.com/article/2506557/security0/google-throws--kill-switch--on-android-phones.html https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary-back-doors.en.htmlMay 30 19:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworld.com | Google throws 'kill switch' on Android phones | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/momi9 ]May 30 19:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | Proprietary Back Doors - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/momib ]May 30 19:18
schestowitz "May 30 19:18
MinceRjust installed or with a google account specified?May 30 19:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153921May 30 19:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My RAM is so limited (2 GB) that I have begun running some applications on another PC over SSH (keeps some memory usage away)May 30 19:43
schestowitz"Since I believe in self-hosting and I'm a Linux sysadmin I have lots of machines, but virtual ones. I used to have everything in one computer and the time I had to upgrade was painful, not to mention when I moved from i686 to amd64 due to having a new computer. Since then I decided that having lots of virtual machines, each one with a specific purpose, was the way to go for me."May 30 19:43
schestowitzMinceR: you can't use it without an accountMay 30 19:43
schestowitzgmail accountMay 30 19:43
schestowitzI tried to dodge it, no success...May 30 19:44
MinceRwhich is fineMay 30 19:46
MinceRit's installed but doesn't do anything on my phoneMay 30 19:46
MinceRi have f-droid on itMay 30 19:46
schestowitzthat;s good, I want to try itMay 30 19:58
schestowitzbut if I wantred freedom, I'd avoid AndroidMay 30 19:58
schestowitzI'm thinking about Jolla, not for me...May 30 19:58
schestowitzI'd not buy a phone, Rianne might soon..May 30 19:58
schestowitzShe loved Nokia... wants to try Jolla or Bq/UbuntuMay 30 19:58
MinceRjolla is lendowsMay 30 19:58
MinceRtizen is lendows tooMay 30 19:59
MinceRi wonder if firefox os is lendows tooMay 30 19:59
MinceRoh, and afaik ubuntu is lendows as wellMay 30 19:59
MinceRit's ironic that android is the linux-based mobile os that's the closest to unixMay 30 20:00
schestowitzThat website looks horrible.May 30 21:17
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/37lgcm/british_government_may_be_a_step_closer_to/May 30 21:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | British Government May be a Step Closer to GNU/Linux (on the Desktops, Not Just Servers) : unitedkingdom [ http://ur1.ca/monll ]May 30 21:17
schestowitz"That website looks horrible."May 30 21:17
schestowitz"May 30 21:17
schestowitzOr you know, upgrade.May 30 21:17
schestowitzIt's cheaper for the government to upgrade to a new system than to convert to Linux, rewrite applications, train people get an army of Linux support staff etc.May 30 21:17
schestowitzThe Article talks about support for XP. This is really shitty blogging, forget journalism.May 30 21:17
schestowitz"May 30 21:17
schestowitz"May 30 21:17
schestowitzf it is costing the tax payer on average $ 10000 per desktop/per year you WILL save money in the long term by using Linux. Over a couple of decades the savings would add up (look at Munich for an example)May 30 21:17
schestowitzAlso it would be better for the taxpayer to fund a company that helps to progress computing for mankind rather than fund a company that actively prevents fair competition. May 30 21:17
schestowitz"May 30 21:17
schestowitz"Yeah it doesn't cost that much. Maybe if you include all the costs of the infrastructure then you might be close."May 30 21:17
schestowitz"May 30 21:17
schestowitz    If it is costing the tax payer on average $ 10000 per desktop/per year you WILL save money in the long term by using Linux. Over a couple of decades the savings would add upMay 30 21:17
schestowitzUpgrading will still cost less in the long term.May 30 21:17
schestowitz    (look at Munich for an example) Munich were/are considering moving back to WindowsMay 30 21:17
schestowitz    Also it would be better for the taxpayer to fund a company that helps to progress computing for mankind rather than fund a company that actively prevents fair competition.May 30 21:17
schestowitzMaybe, however, until Linux can become a viable solution, it's not going anywhere. I personally wouldn't use it as a desktop, half of the applications I need wouldn't run on it.May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitzbetween virtualisation and WINE, what is it you use that can't run on Linux? Have you tried lately? I've been using Linux for 8 years and haven't found anything that can't be easily replaced or made to work, especially office software, bespoke stuff aside, and that would probably be safe to run on a virtual machine.May 30 21:18
schestowitzBefore you shoot down the virtualisation route, it's standard practice to run a farm of virtual machines that users log into for just such necessities...or at least it was five years ago when I worked for a huge facilities company.May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitzVirtualisation or WINE isn't suitable for government use, if they were to go for WINE, they might end up going for terminal thin clients instead.May 30 21:18
schestowitzPlus, they'd have an additional security layer to secure (and support).May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitzWhat's wrong with virtualisation?May 30 21:18
schestowitzThe support is there already. If they have xNix servers, they have support staff and virtualisation already in place in order to use whatever software is on the xNix servers (assuming they're not just webservers) on their XP machines - at least that's how we used to do it.May 30 21:18
schestowitzWINE isn't stable enough for gov't use, that much is certain, but that wasn't what I was asking.May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitz"There's nothing wrong with virtualisation, I just don't think the government will be using it."May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitzWell, I don't actually think they're going to change anything. They have enough clout to negotiate a continued support deal with Microsoft, so they could potentially keep XP forever.May 30 21:18
schestowitzUpgrading to Win7, for example, would mean vast hardware expenditure, as everyone in Whitehall would "need" a brand new desktop and laptop at the very least. There'd also be server migration, bespoke software redesign...and that's just the tip of the iceberg.May 30 21:18
schestowitzNo, as a thought exercise alone, shifting to open source would be the lesser expense, as they could potentially keep all the existing hardware, and the extra support and IT employees they'd need to action the switchover still wouldn't come near the expense of upgrading every desktop and server in parliament and satellite locations.May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
MinceR>implying that winblows is stable enough for government useMay 30 21:18
schestowitz"I can't mention any sources, but the last procurement exercise that was done, RedHat was heavily pushing for RH certified hardware, which would have increased costs significantly. Of course, the option was with the standard support, at a really crappy discounted rate, compared to buying new hardware."May 30 21:18
schestowitz"Perhaps they should get a quote from someone else then."May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:18
schestowitzWin 7 would be better than a red hat contract that I give you.May 30 21:18
schestowitzI'd like to see a quote from canonical though.May 30 21:18
schestowitzAlso cost of open source can only go down in future.May 30 21:18
schestowitz"May 30 21:19
schestowitz"May 30 21:19
schestowitz    This is really shitty blogging, forget journalism.May 30 21:19
schestowitzAgreed. If you follow the links to the government technology blog article you find this choice quote:May 30 21:19
schestowitz    There has been good progress in moving away from Windows XP across departments and government organisations and with many public bodies this transition is complete.May 30 21:19
schestowitzSo it sounds like a lot of depts have already migrated off XP already. So they're not a "step closer" to Linux. They've already moved a new platform. I'm guessing it's just a newer flavour of windows?May 30 21:19
schestowitz"May 30 21:19
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/05/25/microsoft-bullies/May 30 21:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Secret Lobbying, Bullying, and the Long History of Blackmailing Politicians Around the World | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/monmk ]May 30 21:19
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/unfilter/comments/37a4i2/microsofts_secret_lobbying_bullying_and_the_long/May 30 21:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Secret Lobbying, Bullying, and the Long History of Blackmailing Politicians Around the World : unfilter [ http://ur1.ca/monn3 ]May 30 21:20
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schestowitz"May 24 14:51
schestowitz> I see you looking up people who looked up you on Linkedin, it's about the only use of it. We've never met in real life but you once mentioned in the bottom of an email you sent me that you were visiting London. Unfortunately I didn't see it and missed the opportunity. You may remember, I did contribute a lot of the COMES docs that required transcribing from PACER images. I also contributed to Groklaw. Anyway I'm now totally retired May 24 14:51
schestowitzafter having gone half blind and developed a double case of RSI, all in the process of making billg richer, but I'm not bitter :)May 24 14:51
schestowitzHi David (real name?),May 24 14:51
schestowitzWhere do you contribute efforts these days? Do you still speak to PJ? I have not spoken to her for years now, it seems like she really did retire.May 24 14:51
schestowitzI am down in London at least once a year (my employer is near there), so maybe we can catch up one day..May 24 14:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/602510419094347777May 24 16:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz I wonder how long we have to wait before a US president is tried for treason or if they'll always be treated like monarchsMay 24 16:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602515641292103681May 24 16:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Purely an EDUCATIONAL event, i assure you.May 24 16:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/getwired/status/602516633765023744May 24 16:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@getwired: @matthewstinar @schestowitz Diplomatic immunity!May 24 16:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/602516665566437376May 24 16:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz It's one way to erase history.May 24 16:50
schestowitzThe gym where I've gone for 15 years had Nazi history.... and some say maybe torture too. #MidlandHotelMay 24 16:50
schestowitzBLOOOOOD.. No, j/kMay 24 16:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602516926313574400May 24 16:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz What are the conspirators smiling over in that photo?May 24 16:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/602517748950896640May 24 16:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz So does the White HouseMay 24 16:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602519606150868994May 24 17:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Still havn't figured out how Bush I started this mess, and they're out there drilling for Bush III.May 24 17:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602519845733732353May 24 17:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (...?...pls. clarify in DM. We Californians are dull before Church)May 24 17:03
schestowitzThat signing led to many deathsMay 24 17:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/602519568825884672May 24 17:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: A US senator walked out of 'Zero Dark Thirty' after 15 minutes because it was so 'false' http://t.co/9ic93FubM2 #torture #propagandaMay 24 17:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | A US senator walked out of Bin Laden raid movie 'Zero Dark Thirty' because it was so 'false' - Business InsiderMay 24 17:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/602521672147705856May 24 17:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthewstinar: @getwired @schestowitz Shall we begin addressing the president as "Beloved Oppressor?"May 24 17:16
schestowitzDear leaderMay 24 17:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602530197561159681May 24 17:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz That link to @Jerusalem_Post also crashed my whole system for 5 minutes here! The Bush II signing was 2004 IQ Enhancements ActMay 24 17:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/602530659391770624May 24 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz What the conspirators are smiling over in the photo (2004)-- http://t.co/fAc7B5DPsuMay 24 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org | Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMay 24 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johndrinkwater/status/602540526102061058May 24 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@johndrinkwater: Once UK has reversed their Human Rights Act, this will happen here too *& they'll be no legal recourse* https://t.co/ngiJxVdsgSMay 24 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Framing and torturing US person for running a #tor server http://t.co/znBjwgpanI Media should cover this more. @PaulJDeHart @Leann02May 24 18:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/love4worldpeace/status/602541933920137216May 24 18:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@love4worldpeace: #FreeMattDehart https://t.co/7nuxMQ831CMay 24 18:39
schestowitzGOP and Hayden ... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/GenMichael-Hayden-Chinese-nationals-indicted/2015/05/19/id/645584/May 24 19:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.newsmax.com | Mike Hayden to Newsmax: China Will Hit Back For Silicon Valley Charges [ http://ur1.ca/mmstx ]May 24 19:00
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6125665May 24 22:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jeb #bush - like his brother - dislikes facts and makes up stuff http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeb-bush-not-a-shred-of-evidence-nsa-violated-rights-2015-5?r=US US courts refute himMay 24 22:53
schestowitz"Glad to know, I was waiting some random politician to claim that to feel assured."May 24 22:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | Jeb Bush: 'not a shred of evidence' NSA violated rights - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/mmhy9 ]May 24 22:53
schestowitz"Well if it's said by a Bush, then you know it must be right!"May 24 22:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/602611467125432323May 24 23:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz they are throwing money down a pit. HTML5 dogma will kill them. They should be partnering with @jollahq's SailfishOS.May 24 23:08
schestowitzagreedMay 24 23:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6130903May 25 07:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #drm distribution system and proprietary games not growing on #gnu #linux http://www.geek.com/games/steam-isnt-helping-gaming-grow-on-linux-usage-drops-to-less-than-1-1623519/May 25 07:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.geek.com | Steam isn’t helping gaming grow on Linux, usage drops to less than 1% | Games | Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/mmx20 ]May 25 07:44
schestowitz"I've said it before, but this is also probably because Steam for GNU/Linux is a buggy, unusable mess that takes up obscene amounts of resources for no real reason and crashes CONSTANTLY. And it previously was so poorly-coded that it would actually delete users' home directories. It's probably one of the worst pieces of software I've ever used."May 25 07:44
schestowitz"True - it is still rather bad - I used to load it at startup time but ran into daily crashed (and it bloody well took down the X too), and why the hell does it have to load everything but the kitchen sink, when not needed ..."May 25 07:45
schestowitz"i didn't see crushes at all. though i have to admit i see bugs from time to time."May 25 07:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6130392May 25 07:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firedoglake discredits itself by publishing #gop misdirection ploys http://firedoglake.com/2015/05/21/mena-mashup-the-truth-about-libya-emerges/May 25 07:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> firedoglake.com | MENA Mashup: The Truth About Libya Emerges | Firedoglake [ http://ur1.ca/mmx2j ]May 25 07:46
schestowitzWhether deliberately or not, they use GOP media talking points in this case. Spinning it against Clinton.May 25 07:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6130978May 25 07:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You Should Not be Afraid of Arch Linux, Here's Why http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Should-Not-be-Afraid-of-Arch-Linux-Here-s-Why-482092.shtml #archlinux #gnu #linuxMay 25 07:47
schestowitz"Kicked my fucking ass."May 25 07:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | You Should Not be Afraid of Arch Linux, Here's Why - Updated - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mmx2t ]May 25 07:47
schestowitz"Arch is awesome. I started learning on it and learned a lot in quite a short time. Later then switched to another distro to learn about stuff, that arch doesn't provide.May 25 07:48
schestowitz"May 25 07:48
schestowitz"which is this stuff that arch doesn't provide? #linuxfromscratch?"May 25 07:48
schestowitz"The old init :P :D Changing the init in Arch is possible, yes - but I started learning about a year ago - perhaps now I could manage it, but that time I decided to choose another distro ;)"May 25 07:48
schestowitz"I tried to change systemd with openRC - but that time I haven't had enough knowledge yet and systemd is quite deeply implemented in Arch. In the forum they told me, it wasn't a very good idea and choosing something else would be the better choice, than trying such hard experiments with Arch :)"May 25 07:48
schestowitzI have been learning to live with systemd myself...May 25 07:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Guyzzzer1/status/602832105220022273May 25 14:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Guyzzzer1: @schestowitz I was being sarcastic :)May 25 14:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6132775May 25 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #America #América #Amérique #palabras #words #language #lenguaje #idioma #langue #imperialismo #imperialism #impérialisme #geografía #géographie #geography #política #politique #politicsMay 25 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by miguelguardadoalbarreal@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_a1ab9c945b2e35fb97d2.jpgMay 25 14:55
schestowitz"A whole hemisphere[/]. [i]Two continents, not one. :facepalm"May 25 14:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/s_b_sh/status/602860160902660097May 25 15:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@s_b_sh: #ouverture #opensource in progress ... https://t.co/hCZTfjnS1gMay 25 15:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "I exclusively draw in Linux" https://t.co/8CCDIuDjL9May 25 15:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/602865641565986816May 25 16:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz This is why I advocate encrypting all electronic devices. It provides security against badly implemented wiping.May 25 16:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6133384May 25 17:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is your open source security software less secure? http://opensource.com/business/15/5/why-open-source-means-stronger-security #freesw #securityMay 25 17:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | How open source makes software more secure | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/mmzh5 ]May 25 17:01
schestowitz"less secure than what? Less secure than software you don't and can't know anything about? How can anyone make that comparison?"May 25 17:02
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RLUEYEOAS4May 25 21:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Regime Change in the Philippines - History Day - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/mn0zt ]May 25 21:48
schestowitz"Philippine history didn't even start in magellans time. It started during the Song Dynasty of China. When the young Song Dynasty emperor escaped from the invading mongols. They build an Empire here in the phillipines The "Lusong Empire" (luzon). this was during 10th century. No wonder lots of chinese in the philippines."May 25 21:48
schestowitz"Helped?!ahahaha The US paid 20000 bucks (under the table) to purchase the Philippines from Spain, as for Japan, well they really pissed the US off with lemme see... stuff they did at pearl harbor. Bottom line is-STRINGS."May 25 21:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SAwritersnet/status/602966133763919872May 26 00:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SAwritersnet: @schestowitz thanks for sharing, have a great MondayMay 26 00:35
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6126568May 26 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "War On Cops": Fox News Abandons Its Catchphrase When Bike Gangs Threaten Police http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/05/22/war-on-cops-fox-news-abandons-its-catchphrase-w/203748 race card at #newscorpMay 26 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mediamatters.org | "War On Cops": Fox News Abandons Its Catchphrase When Bike Gangs Threaten Police | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/mn6ue ]May 26 17:34
r_schestowitz"and armed ranchers challenging federal grazing fees."May 26 17:34
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6136027May 26 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Warren Buffett thinks the poor should stop blaming inequality on the rich http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/warren-buffett-thinks-that-the-poor-need-to-stop-blaming-inequality-on-the-rich-10271780.html why not? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueMay 26 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk | Warren Buffett thinks the poor should stop blaming inequality on the rich - People - News - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/mn6uw ]May 26 17:37
r_schestowitz"May 26 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ]May 26 17:37
r_schestowitzHmmmm. This is also the guy who said, “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”May 26 17:37
r_schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.htmlMay 26 17:37
r_schestowitz"May 26 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/mn6uy ]May 26 17:37
r_schestowitz"Buffett claims the rich are 'deserving.' He claims, "We all live far better because of Henry Ford, Steve Jobs, Sam Walton and the like," but these names--even if we rather generously consider Walton to have improved living standards--are far from the majority of rich people."May 26 17:37
r_schestowitzI love the irony of that old quote of his (which I saw before). These people are not just thieves but liars too.May 26 17:38
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6125475May 26 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why does #bt keep shipping Home Hubs to us, even though it's clearly unrelated to the issue (REIN)? We have four Home Hubs now.May 26 18:23
r_schestowitz"You might get for free into the wonderful business of selling routers.'May 26 18:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6136027May 26 19:08
r_schestowitz"May 26 19:08
r_schestowitzThe ‘Oracle of Omaha’ goes on believingMay 26 19:08
r_schestowitzhttps://disunitedstates.org/?p=7561May 26 19:08
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r_schestowitz"May 26 19:08
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schestowitz> http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/05/26/college-administrators-education-reform-pay-column/27912921/May 27 19:44
schestowitz>May 27 19:44
schestowitz> Unfortunately many universities are increasing the numbers ofMay 27 19:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.usatoday.com | Reynolds: Fire administrators to fix higher ed [ http://ur1.ca/mnle9 ]May 27 19:44
schestowitz> administrative staff, following stupid advice from 'consulting' firms.May 27 19:44
schestowitzMaybe that's true in the US because I can't relate to that here...May 27 19:44
schestowitz>>> >> http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/05/26/college-administrators-education-reform-pay-column/27912921/May 27 20:03
schestowitz>>> >>May 27 20:03
schestowitz>>> >> Unfortunately many universities are increasing the numbers ofMay 27 20:03
schestowitz>>> >> administrative staff, following stupid advice from 'consulting' firms.May 27 20:03
schestowitz>> > Maybe that's true in the US because I can't relate to that here...May 27 20:03
schestowitz>May 27 20:03
schestowitz> Definitely true in the US.  True in Finland, Norway and Sweden too minusMay 27 20:03
schestowitz> the consulting firms.May 27 20:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6141610May 27 20:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Back in the days #mandriva staff accused #canonical of harming #gnu #linux - not just MDV http://www.zdnet.com/article/french-firm-behind-mandriva-linux-goes-out-of-business/ http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/05/26/mandria-goes-out-of-business/May 27 20:07
schestowitz""Sad day.May 27 20:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.zdnet.com | ​French firm behind Mandriva Linux goes out of business | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/mnlle ]May 27 20:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.linuxveda.com | Mandriva goes out of business - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/mnllg ]May 27 20:07
schestowitz"I used to use it. I jumped ship over to Mageia when it was obvious that Mandriva was dead. I guess now it's official."May 27 20:08
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35899/May 27 20:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Oh Snap!: Jonathan Riddell gets full support from the Kubuntu communityMay 27 20:14
schestowitz"May 27 20:14
schestowitzMajor blowback on this... I don't think Shuttleworth foresaw things turning this way.May 27 20:14
schestowitzUbuntu Community Council Can't Track Down $143,000 Worth of DonationsMay 27 20:14
schestowitz"It looks like some very poor accounting is to blameMay 27 20:14
schestowitzThe Ubuntu Community Council has made a rather troublesome discovery regarding the accounting of $143,000 in donations. From the looks of it, no one knows how this money was spent."May 27 20:14
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Community-Council-Can-...May 27 20:14
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schestowitz"May 27 20:14
schestowitz"Sheesh, that's over 1/8 of a MILLION USD$ slipping into *some* people's pockets for "necessary equipment", "miscellaneous expenses" or who-knows-what ("personal expen$e$" !!)"May 27 20:14
schestowitz"How's this gonna look for your IPO, Mark? Not good, me thinks."May 27 20:14
schestowitz"Not the new friendly Microsoft"May 27 20:15
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35900/May 27 20:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Not the new friendly Microsoft: Microsoft’s Patent Allies LG and Sony Agree to Put Microsoft Inside AndroidMay 27 20:15
schestowitz"Could someone please forward this story to Canonical and Red Hat?"May 27 20:15
schestowitzme: This is probably for CKEditor and Microsoft to resolve because we already use the latest 'dev' build of CKEditor. IE11 just cannot cope and we can't change IE11 source code. Editing of CKEditor code would be hard to maintain.May 28 00:10
schestowitzI hate IEMay 28 00:10
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Evidlocubelog: Not sure if you're still around, but do you still have the source for the poly_w2 drawing program?May 28 05:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/603810092077740032May 28 06:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Yes, Corporations are People, in Rights if not in Responsibilities. (in the recent USA, at least)May 28 06:39
schestowitzEvidlo: try asking him in #techrightsMay 28 06:39
schestowitzthat's where he has his main account, this one is a logger of hisMay 28 06:40
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oxfordite/status/603929356017278976May 28 14:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oxfordite: @schestowitz Have avoided BT for years.. #REIN can be tricky.. but if subscriber equip is source of it, law surely permits BT serve notice?May 28 14:43
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oxfordite/status/603938602981154816May 28 15:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oxfordite: @schestowitz Is there any pattern to the #REIN / disconnections? Have @BTretail said? @zeninternet gave me connectivity graphs to assist..May 28 15:00
r_schestowitzThey thought they had found the culprit (10 houses down), but they were wrongMay 28 15:00
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146227May 28 15:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #SourceForge hijacks #GIMP account, loads it with adware http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/05/27/sourceforge-hijacks-gimp-account-loads-it-with-adware/ #gnu #dice #advertising #graphicsMay 28 15:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.linuxveda.com | SourceForge hijacks GIMP account, loads it with adware - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/mnt80 ]May 28 15:01
r_schestowitz"https://sourceforge.net/blog/gimp-win-project-wasnt-hijacked-just-abandoned/"May 28 15:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sourceforge.net | GIMP-Win project wasn’t hijacked, just abandoned | SourceForge Community Blog [ http://ur1.ca/mnufk ]May 28 15:01
r_schestowitz"Not abandonned...We know what they say, but: https://linuxfr.org/users/jehan/journaux/sourceforge-de-pire-en-pire-usurpation-d-identite-du-projet-gimp "May 28 15:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxfr.org | Sourceforge de pire en pire: usurpation d'identité du projet GIMP - LinuxFr.org [ http://ur1.ca/mnufm ]May 28 15:02
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oxfordite/status/603941027624439809May 28 15:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oxfordite: @schestowitz @BTretail @zeninternet I know but little, but it seems absurd #BTOpenReach w. tech+effort cannot trace #REIN esp. if a patternMay 28 15:12
r_schestowitzit has been 2 months now... they only started looking into it a month after I repeatedly reported it to them. #btMay 28 15:12
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146227May 28 15:17
r_schestowitz"Thanx Fla & ordinatous"May 28 15:17
r_schestowitzI installed GIMP on m in law's windows laptop some months ago...May 28 15:17
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/603972385272922112May 28 17:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @voidquest44 @schestowitz Hopefully, saw a council official on the bus logging into her xp desktop showing off her password and email to allMay 28 17:55
r_schestowitzNHS did this not too long ago... with a lot of sensitive data. I reckon China and Russia already know the medical conditions of us all.May 28 17:56
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/603973801706131456May 28 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz wrong url on this one. Here you go http://t.co/QqwSq8c0Rl ;)May 28 17:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Touch OTA Update for BQ Aquaris E4.5 Planned for Next Week - SoftpediaMay 28 17:58
r_schestowitzoopsMay 28 17:58
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mjg59/status/603826000170999808May 28 18:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mjg59: http://t.co/km4qoJ9xL6 I go to the effort of debunking this, he quotes my debunking and then still goes with that headline fffffffffffffffffMay 28 18:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Yet Another Major Security Deficiency in UEFI | TechrightsMay 28 18:16
r_schestowitzhttp://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/14-410.htmMay 28 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.supremecourt.gov | Search - Supreme Court of the United States [ http://ur1.ca/mnwul ]May 28 18:57
r_schestowitz-May 28 18:57
r_schestowitzhttp://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/05/26/us-usa-court-google-idUKM1KBN0OB2JP20150526May 28 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-uk.reuters.com | Obama administration asks U.S. top court to decline Google copyright appeal | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/mnwun ]May 28 18:57
r_schestowitz-May 28 18:57
r_schestowitzhttp://fortune.com/2015/05/26/google-oracle-api-supremecourt-obama-appeal/May 28 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fortune.com | Justice tells Supreme Court not to hear Google's API appeal - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/mnwuo ]May 28 18:57
r_schestowitz-May 28 18:57
r_schestowitzhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/266703948/Goog-v-Oracle-Solicitor-General-Brief-CopyMay 28 18:57
r_schestowitzIn a foaming at the mouth rabid desire to screw Google for any and allMay 28 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.scribd.com | Goog v Oracle, Solicitor General Brief Copy [ http://ur1.ca/mnwuq ]May 28 18:57
r_schestowitzactivity they are going to get the rest of us as collateral damage ifMay 28 18:57
r_schestowitzAPIs become copyrightable in the US.   It boggles the mind.  The veryMay 28 18:57
r_schestowitzpurpose of APIs is violated.May 28 18:57
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/604000606441742337May 28 19:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: If the principal has so little to do that he has time to harass students, perhaps he needs to find a new job. #psychopaths. @schestowitzMay 28 19:10
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EvilWrangler/status/604005403781791744May 28 19:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EvilWrangler: @schestowitz @annejanbrouwer OMG I work @major corporation this is exactly the culture of #fear if UR not confident don't work there dammitMay 28 19:51
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148561\May 28 20:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moderator in #ubuntuforums doesn't want criticism of #microsoft to be discussed. Thread closed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2279214May 28 20:11
r_schestowitz"just like discussions critical of systemd were closed on many linux forums."May 28 20:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ubuntuforums.org | Microsoft is Again Showing Its Hatred of Free/Open Source Software by Lobbying the I [ http://ur1.ca/mnwmm ]May 28 20:11
r_schestowitzNot surprisingMay 28 20:12
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148512May 28 20:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Queen’s Speech: #SnoopersCharter is back, plus extension of #GCHQ powers http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/queens-speech-snoopers-charter-is-back-plus-extension-of-gchq-powers/ clinging on to MonarchyMay 28 20:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.co.uk | Queen’s Speech: Snooper’s Charter is back, plus extension of GCHQ powers | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/mnxl3 ]May 28 20:12
r_schestowitz"May 28 20:12
r_schestowitzThe problem they have with law enforcement is that there are too many laws. The just go along, daisy chaining laws together, until we have totalitarianism for the poorer classes - by which time, most people will be poor as far as the rich are concerned.May 28 20:12
r_schestowitzThere is no wisdom in the political class - tyrants have never needed wisdom.May 28 20:12
r_schestowitzHowever, i can see them damaging the monarchy in the same way that the Greek monarchy was destroyed. The Royal Families are seen to be far too close to this extreme right-wing political culture. And enjoying it.May 28 20:13
r_schestowitz"May 28 20:13
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146754May 28 20:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #blender3d is released http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Blender-2.75-Test-Build http://news.softpedia.com/news/Blender-2-75-Open-Source-3D-Modelling-App-Will-Be-a-Massive-Release-with-AMD-GPU-Support-482528.shtml #freesw #graphicsMay 28 20:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.phoronix.com | Blender 2.75 Allows For AMD OpenCL Support - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/mnxlw ]May 28 20:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | Blender 2.75 Open-Source 3D Modelling App Will Be a Massive Release with AMD GPU Support - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mnxlx ]May 28 20:14
r_schestowitz"OpenCL rendering, finally! Halle-freaking-lujah."May 28 20:14
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/604021238198046722 May 28 21:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz http://t.co/XcJKcWA7gd any help?May 28 21:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.elantelecom.com | Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise (REIN) « Elan Telecom | Wholesale Telecommunications for BusinessMay 28 21:10
r_schestowitzIt's for them to solveMay 28 21:10
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/604033898113318912May 28 21:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz obviously! Just thought radio trick might help when they don't....May 28 21:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148468May 28 21:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Fifa #scandal: Why the #US is policing a global game http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32889845 http://rt.com/news/262669-putin-interview-fifa-arrests/ #worldpoliceMay 28 21:45
r_schestowitz"May 28 21:45
r_schestowitz"America" is obviously anti-capitalist :DMay 28 21:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.co.uk | Fifa scandal: Why the US is policing a global game - BBC News [ http://ur1.ca/mo09j ]May 28 21:45
r_schestowitzDon't The USA know anything about business? Let me see - wait a minute - didn't Blair stop a prosecution for bribery (arms sales to Saudi Arabia) because it wasn't in the "national" interest?May 28 21:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/mo09k ]May 28 21:45
r_schestowitz"May 28 21:45
r_schestowitz/s/national/corporate/May 28 21:45
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6148901May 28 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Class war has no borders. They just label it "war on terror". In order for multinational, globalist plutocrats to wage #war globally...May 28 21:46
r_schestowitz"borders themselves don't even exist. They're just imaginary lines after all."May 28 21:46
r_schestowitz"^ indeed.May 28 21:46
r_schestowitzThey prevent poor people from travelling, not rich peopleMay 28 21:46
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6146581May 28 21:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Are The Chances for an #Ubuntu IPO? http://www.datamation.com/open-source/what-are-the-chances-for-an-ubuntu-ipo.html #canonicalMay 28 21:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.datamation.com | What Are The Chances for an Ubuntu IPO? - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/mo0ad ]May 28 21:47
r_schestowitz"lol!"May 28 21:47
MinceRcanonical is evil enough already to be publicly ownedMay 28 21:51
Evidlor_schestowitz: thanksMay 29 03:37
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schestowitzFor quite some time now we have been HotLinking images from linuxgizmos when linking to linuxgizmos articles. For the past month or so CloudFlare has been blocking it, so there's no preview. Could that behaviour be changed? Was that intended?May 29 10:36
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153862May 30 07:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reports have limited shelf life, especially on the Web. Articles about #microsoft bribing professors to recommend MS products now 'expired'.May 30 07:31
schestowitz"This is why I started a scrapbook project, somewhat like my photo album. I'm collecting interesting articles by date of publication and arranging them by symlink to topics of interest. I save a print to pdf copy and sometimes a web archive. You once told me that you saved a copy of every article you cited. That was absolutely the right thing to do. One day, we will be able to share such libraries openly on the web."May 30 07:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153705May 30 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passwords leaked through routers http://www.komando.com/happening-now/309955/malware-attacks-routers-steals-facebook-passwords while #bt puts back doors in them, allegedly http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/12/17/bt-back-door/1May 30 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.komando.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/mohpl ]May 30 07:32
schestowitz"Windows press tries to make it about "Linux"."May 30 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bit-tech.net | BT modems have NSA back-door, claim researchers | bit-tech.net [ http://ur1.ca/g7ws3 ]May 30 07:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153921May 30 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My RAM is so limited (2 GB) that I have begun running some applications on another PC over SSH (keeps some memory usage away)May 30 07:32
schestowitz"May 30 07:32
schestowitzI don't have such a collection of computers anymore, but ssh -X has been very useful to me. I've had machines dedicated to audio recording, video recording, and other special purposes. It was particularly useful for my thesis work, which required a lot of simulation.May 30 07:32
schestowitzI've started to run browsers as other users and do ssh locally to confuse some of the malice of java script.May 30 07:32
schestowitz"May 30 07:32
schestowitz"http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/desktop/low_resource_computers.html"May 30 07:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-50.80.140.55 | Low Resource Computers [ http://ur1.ca/mohpt ]May 30 07:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153728May 30 07:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat CEO: Public cloud "obscenely expensive at scale" http://www.techrepublic.com/article/red-hat-ceo-public-cloud-obscenely-expensive-at-scale/May 30 07:33
schestowitz"Good!"May 30 07:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techrepublic.com | Red Hat CEO: Public cloud "obscenely expensive at scale" - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/mohq3 ]May 30 07:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ShaneHudson/status/604559114476371968May 30 08:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ShaneHudson: Such a shame, Mandrake was my first introduction to Linux :) https://t.co/PyI4wvKwCVMay 30 08:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Mandriva 1998-2015 http://t.co/gVYZq760rf #gnu #linuxMay 30 08:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6152999May 30 08:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passivity of the so-called 'middle class' (a #propaganda term) enables those in power to crush it from below while inciting it 'downward'May 30 08:24
schestowitz"What would be a better term? It's easier to say than bourgeoisie."May 30 08:24
schestowitz"Then there's lower, middle, and upper middle class -but all still gradations between the neo peasantry and elites. He at the very top kicking all challengers back down the slope and everyone else repeating the procedure. Marx's idea of the middle class as hose who own degrees of the means of production does no better as a definition because ultimately what matters is how well you are kicking others down the slope or (eg) getting a May 30 08:24
schestowitzreligion or spirituality that lifts your mind out of the mileu altogether"May 30 08:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/604679909395472384May 30 16:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Maybe the tabloid that went out of business after the phone bugging scandal?May 30 16:08
schestowitzNews of the WorldMay 30 16:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/604681374616780801May 30 16:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz News of the World -- did it have pin-ups? i recall article couple yrs back how one of the tabloids dropping "page 3" Telegraph?May 30 16:13
schestowitzThe SunMay 30 16:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/604681854629855233May 30 16:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz Canonical is in effect adding additional restrictions on conveyance?? That is what at least one of the articles suggests....May 30 16:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/604683395701088257May 30 17:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz if that is correct this is a much much bigger issue than that they don't like @jriddell #ISupportJonathanMay 30 17:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gordonbp/status/604691514866995200May 30 17:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gordonbp: @schestowitz Err the Queen is APOLITICAL and always has been. That speech is written by the Govt, not HM...May 30 17:21
schestowitzSo she's a deliverer now?May 30 17:21
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schestowitzhttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/28/u-n-report-asserts-encryption-human-right-digital-age/ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/05/29/1117224&mode=nestedMay 30 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-firstlook.org | U.N. Report Asserts Encryption as a Human Right in the Digital Age - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/mom8k ]May 30 17:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | U.N. Special Rapporteur: Encryption Necessary for Human Rights - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/mom8l ]May 30 17:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/604704587291820032May 30 17:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz He was a THREAT to HOLLYWOOD (c) owners.May 30 17:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6155775May 30 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Another reason to use #fdroid rather than #GooglePlay http://movietvtechgeeks.com/nsa-bug-for-android-available-on-google-play/ #freesw #androidMay 30 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> movietvtechgeeks.com | NSA Bug for Android: Available on Google Play - Movie TV Tech Geeks News [ http://ur1.ca/momi7 ]May 30 18:17
schestowitz"May 30 18:17
schestowitzWith Google Play installed you don't really own your phone:May 30 18:18
schestowitzhttp://www.computerworld.com/article/2506557/security0/google-throws--kill-switch--on-android-phones.html https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary-back-doors.en.htmlMay 30 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerworld.com | Google throws 'kill switch' on Android phones | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/momi9 ]May 30 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | Proprietary Back Doors - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/momib ]May 30 18:18
schestowitz "May 30 18:18
MinceRjust installed or with a google account specified?May 30 18:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6153921May 30 18:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My RAM is so limited (2 GB) that I have begun running some applications on another PC over SSH (keeps some memory usage away)May 30 18:43
schestowitz"Since I believe in self-hosting and I'm a Linux sysadmin I have lots of machines, but virtual ones. I used to have everything in one computer and the time I had to upgrade was painful, not to mention when I moved from i686 to amd64 due to having a new computer. Since then I decided that having lots of virtual machines, each one with a specific purpose, was the way to go for me."May 30 18:43
schestowitzMinceR: you can't use it without an accountMay 30 18:43
schestowitzgmail accountMay 30 18:43
schestowitzI tried to dodge it, no success...May 30 18:44
MinceRwhich is fineMay 30 18:46
MinceRit's installed but doesn't do anything on my phoneMay 30 18:46
MinceRi have f-droid on itMay 30 18:46
schestowitzthat;s good, I want to try itMay 30 18:58
schestowitzbut if I wantred freedom, I'd avoid AndroidMay 30 18:58
schestowitzI'm thinking about Jolla, not for me...May 30 18:58
schestowitzI'd not buy a phone, Rianne might soon..May 30 18:58
schestowitzShe loved Nokia... wants to try Jolla or Bq/UbuntuMay 30 18:58
MinceRjolla is lendowsMay 30 18:58
MinceRtizen is lendows tooMay 30 18:59
MinceRi wonder if firefox os is lendows tooMay 30 18:59
MinceRoh, and afaik ubuntu is lendows as wellMay 30 18:59
MinceRit's ironic that android is the linux-based mobile os that's the closest to unixMay 30 19:00
schestowitzThat website looks horrible.May 30 20:17
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/37lgcm/british_government_may_be_a_step_closer_to/May 30 20:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | British Government May be a Step Closer to GNU/Linux (on the Desktops, Not Just Servers) : unitedkingdom [ http://ur1.ca/monll ]May 30 20:17
schestowitz"That website looks horrible."May 30 20:17
schestowitz"May 30 20:17
schestowitzOr you know, upgrade.May 30 20:17
schestowitzIt's cheaper for the government to upgrade to a new system than to convert to Linux, rewrite applications, train people get an army of Linux support staff etc.May 30 20:17
schestowitzThe Article talks about support for XP. This is really shitty blogging, forget journalism.May 30 20:17
schestowitz"May 30 20:17
schestowitz"May 30 20:17
schestowitzf it is costing the tax payer on average $ 10000 per desktop/per year you WILL save money in the long term by using Linux. Over a couple of decades the savings would add up (look at Munich for an example)May 30 20:17
schestowitzAlso it would be better for the taxpayer to fund a company that helps to progress computing for mankind rather than fund a company that actively prevents fair competition. May 30 20:17
schestowitz"May 30 20:17
schestowitz"Yeah it doesn't cost that much. Maybe if you include all the costs of the infrastructure then you might be close."May 30 20:17
schestowitz"May 30 20:17
schestowitz    If it is costing the tax payer on average $ 10000 per desktop/per year you WILL save money in the long term by using Linux. Over a couple of decades the savings would add upMay 30 20:17
schestowitzUpgrading will still cost less in the long term.May 30 20:17
schestowitz    (look at Munich for an example) Munich were/are considering moving back to WindowsMay 30 20:17
schestowitz    Also it would be better for the taxpayer to fund a company that helps to progress computing for mankind rather than fund a company that actively prevents fair competition.May 30 20:18
schestowitzMaybe, however, until Linux can become a viable solution, it's not going anywhere. I personally wouldn't use it as a desktop, half of the applications I need wouldn't run on it.May 30 20:18
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schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitzbetween virtualisation and WINE, what is it you use that can't run on Linux? Have you tried lately? I've been using Linux for 8 years and haven't found anything that can't be easily replaced or made to work, especially office software, bespoke stuff aside, and that would probably be safe to run on a virtual machine.May 30 20:18
schestowitzBefore you shoot down the virtualisation route, it's standard practice to run a farm of virtual machines that users log into for just such necessities...or at least it was five years ago when I worked for a huge facilities company.May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitzVirtualisation or WINE isn't suitable for government use, if they were to go for WINE, they might end up going for terminal thin clients instead.May 30 20:18
schestowitzPlus, they'd have an additional security layer to secure (and support).May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitzWhat's wrong with virtualisation?May 30 20:18
schestowitzThe support is there already. If they have xNix servers, they have support staff and virtualisation already in place in order to use whatever software is on the xNix servers (assuming they're not just webservers) on their XP machines - at least that's how we used to do it.May 30 20:18
schestowitzWINE isn't stable enough for gov't use, that much is certain, but that wasn't what I was asking.May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitz"There's nothing wrong with virtualisation, I just don't think the government will be using it."May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitzWell, I don't actually think they're going to change anything. They have enough clout to negotiate a continued support deal with Microsoft, so they could potentially keep XP forever.May 30 20:18
schestowitzUpgrading to Win7, for example, would mean vast hardware expenditure, as everyone in Whitehall would "need" a brand new desktop and laptop at the very least. There'd also be server migration, bespoke software redesign...and that's just the tip of the iceberg.May 30 20:18
schestowitzNo, as a thought exercise alone, shifting to open source would be the lesser expense, as they could potentially keep all the existing hardware, and the extra support and IT employees they'd need to action the switchover still wouldn't come near the expense of upgrading every desktop and server in parliament and satellite locations.May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
MinceR>implying that winblows is stable enough for government useMay 30 20:18
schestowitz"I can't mention any sources, but the last procurement exercise that was done, RedHat was heavily pushing for RH certified hardware, which would have increased costs significantly. Of course, the option was with the standard support, at a really crappy discounted rate, compared to buying new hardware."May 30 20:18
schestowitz"Perhaps they should get a quote from someone else then."May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:18
schestowitzWin 7 would be better than a red hat contract that I give you.May 30 20:18
schestowitzI'd like to see a quote from canonical though.May 30 20:18
schestowitzAlso cost of open source can only go down in future.May 30 20:18
schestowitz"May 30 20:19
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schestowitz    This is really shitty blogging, forget journalism.May 30 20:19
schestowitzAgreed. If you follow the links to the government technology blog article you find this choice quote:May 30 20:19
schestowitz    There has been good progress in moving away from Windows XP across departments and government organisations and with many public bodies this transition is complete.May 30 20:19
schestowitzSo it sounds like a lot of depts have already migrated off XP already. So they're not a "step closer" to Linux. They've already moved a new platform. I'm guessing it's just a newer flavour of windows?May 30 20:19
schestowitz"May 30 20:19
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/05/25/microsoft-bullies/May 30 20:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Secret Lobbying, Bullying, and the Long History of Blackmailing Politicians Around the World | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/monmk ]May 30 20:19
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/unfilter/comments/37a4i2/microsofts_secret_lobbying_bullying_and_the_long/May 30 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Microsoft’s Secret Lobbying, Bullying, and the Long History of Blackmailing Politicians Around the World : unfilter [ http://ur1.ca/monn3 ]May 30 20:20

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