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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6296142 | Jul 05 00:07 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/30/windows_10_wi_fi_sense/ … #vista10 latest back door http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA … | Jul 05 00:07 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk | UH OH: Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/n06tz ] | Jul 05 00:07 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Jul 05 00:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | "That’s what I call being friendly. For extra friendliness share credit card numbers as well." | Jul 05 00:07 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6296190 | Jul 05 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #AltonTowers apologises for taking up to an hour to evacuate passengers from monorail in searing heat http://www.itv.com/news/2015-07-02/alton-towers-apologises-for-taking-up-to-an-hour-to-evacuate-passengers-from-monorail-in-searing-heat/ … | Jul 05 00:08 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Should send up Cliff Richie to sing to them while they’re waiting - regardless of subsequent passenger suicides and self-harm attempts." | Jul 05 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.itv.com | Alton Towers apologises for taking up to an hour to evacuate passengers from monorail in searing heat - ITV News [ http://ur1.ca/n06u5 ] | Jul 05 00:08 | |
| r_schestowitz | THink of the children... on the rides.... Cliff might want to ride them | Jul 05 00:08 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6296189 | Jul 05 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/QuantumPirate/status/616584649909907456 | Jul 05 00:09 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@QuantumPirate: I would have been tweeting more recently but I've been stuck on a ride in Alton Towers since late 2013 living off toffee apples and chips. | Jul 05 00:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Looking for 100% safe and controlled extreme activities? Sounds like drinking alcohol-free beer." | Jul 05 00:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6297109 | Jul 05 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is there any drawback to approach of Tails on laptop, coffee shop/public Wi-Fi, throwaway #gmail account? Any way leading back to source? | Jul 05 00:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Yes, but can you do that in a way that can’t be traced back to you in some way? I think Gmail asks for another email account. I suppose you can set up accounts from more than one provider, like yahoo and google, at the same time, each with the other one as “verification” and hope it works." | Jul 05 00:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/617471979734597632 | Jul 05 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz PHP? Binary? | Jul 05 00:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | Tagalog | Jul 05 00:17 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/617496605336424448 | Jul 05 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@deusexstigma: @tecknocrat @schestowitz half the world are vets!...veterans will just keep right on growin' too... | Jul 05 08:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/617545487755837440 | Jul 05 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Metztli_IT: cc:@schestowitz https://t.co/qiBEt92Xx1 | Jul 05 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JournalNEO: A Study of Julian - http://t.co/XuSwrZhsZ8 #WikiLeaks #US #Israel | Jul 05 08:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://phuketwan.com/tourism/asean-today-chinas-allure-declines-japan-backs-dawei-blogger-faces-sentence-22765/ | Jul 05 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-phuketwan.com | Asean Today: China's Allure Declines; Japan Backs Dawei; Blogger Faces Sentence - Phuket Wan [ http://ur1.ca/n0btm ] | Jul 05 10:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | "he Philippines had once defined its nationalism in anti-American terms. Today, the target is China. The sentiments in the archipelago underscore how South-east Asia, which had begun to shed its old fears of the mainland, is feeling fresh unease about it. " | Jul 05 10:10 |
| r_schestowitz | True | Jul 05 10:10 |
| r_schestowitz | To a degree | Jul 05 10:10 |
| r_schestowitz | http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/laws-must-suit-society-shanmugam | Jul 05 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "Touching on teenage blogger Amos Yee, he said there has been misconception that the youth is being prosecuted for insulting former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew when, in fact, his charges are to do with obscenity and insulting Christianity. - See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/laws-must-suit-society-shanmugam#sthash.0XtcJVvU.dpuf" | Jul 05 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | Complete BS | Jul 05 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.asiaone.com | The laws must suit society: Shanmugam, AsiaOne Singapore News [ http://ur1.ca/n0btz ] | Jul 05 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.asiaone.com | The laws must suit society: Shanmugam, AsiaOne Singapore News [ http://ur1.ca/n0bu0 ] | Jul 05 10:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | They use that to bypass the law | Jul 05 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | and pretend it's about relgiion when it's clearly now | Jul 05 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | *not | Jul 05 10:11 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: obcenity has a very long range of options. | Jul 05 10:21 |
| r_schestowitz | to them, it means to criticise a religion or a PM | Jul 05 10:46 |
| r_schestowitz | or to shatter some lies | Jul 05 10:46 |
| r_schestowitz | or to post an image of a man shaking hands with another | Jul 05 10:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Thatcher | Jul 05 10:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Even if the image is forged, that wouldn't be grounds for arresting a teen | Jul 05 10:47 |
| r_schestowitz | esp. if he didn't make such an image | Jul 05 10:47 |
| oiaohm | In boycottnovel-social "Fireworks are silly. There's no point of shooting things up towards space that purposely blow up." This is a laugh. Australian fireworks producing company is the anti missle flare producing company. Fireworks are prototypes. | Jul 05 14:00 |
| r_schestowitz | I thought of that | Jul 05 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | But... | Jul 05 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | China makes many of the world's' fireworks now | Jul 05 16:52 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/617777093334728708 | Jul 05 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: The Government doesn't understand terrorism... @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/P13bjV0CMc | Jul 05 22:32 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk | The Government doesn't understand terrorism — and it's making things worse - Comment - Voices - The Independent | Jul 05 22:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Godzilla_Govt/status/617809478084247552 | Jul 05 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Godzilla_Govt: @schestowitz What can you do to put a stop to the madness? Change the channel & you have magically stopped terrorism. | Jul 05 22:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/617817922245804032 | Jul 05 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Oh (G8D) ! | Jul 05 23:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/617818412740444160 | Jul 05 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz indeed, the Greeks voted with a clear voice for human dignity rather than selfish greed...this should be celebrated | Jul 05 23:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | > "Hear how Steve Ballmer bailed out Xbox after Red Ring of Death" | Jul 05 23:17 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 05 23:17 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/hear-how-steve-ballmer-bailed-out-xbox-after-red-ring-of-death/ | Jul 05 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Hear how Steve Ballmer bailed out Xbox after Red Ring of Death | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/n0im8 ] | Jul 05 23:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 05 23:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Yesterday I saw and linked to this article from Microsoft Peter, a booster of the company. Not sure why he decided to bring this up after all those years.... | Jul 05 23:17 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/617821359268327424 | Jul 05 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Zeipt: ЛЮТО ПЛЮСУЮ!!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ https://t.co/50KMoJHv38 | Jul 05 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: When someone sends mail from #gmail to #yandex or vice versa both sides in #coldwar shake hands. Everyone's happy. Intercepted at both ends. | Jul 05 23:28 | |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: sound like Microsoft is trying to make sure share holders don't get too worried. | Jul 06 01:19 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: I still don't see how Windows 10 is going todo anything good to Microsoft bottom line. | Jul 06 01:20 |
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| r_schestowitz | > Would be interesting to know whether there are connections between Hacking Team and EPO. | Jul 06 08:34 |
| r_schestowitz | > See epic Hacking Team hack files (~ 400 GB) | Jul 06 08:34 |
| r_schestowitz | > I am not going to post this. | Jul 06 08:34 |
| r_schestowitz | There is no evidence which I'm aware of | Jul 06 08:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/myhermes/status/617979371983400960 | Jul 06 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@myhermes: @schestowitz Good morning, can you please confirm the issue you are having sow e can assist you. Thanks, Greg. | Jul 06 09:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | Unable (since Friday) to enter details, irrespective of browser. "please put correct address from/to" - tries about 10 times since then. | Jul 06 10:00 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/myhermes/status/618001259400925184 | Jul 06 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@myhermes: @schestowitz Hi, please D us with both addresses so we can check this out. Thanks, Greg | Jul 06 11:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | it works now, but we'll send with Post Office now. I suppose you fixed something? | Jul 06 12:10 |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/ArrowSparrow/status/618056409263923200 | Jul 06 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ArrowSparrow: @schestowitz He deserve it! A spoiled brat. | Jul 06 17:05 | |
| roy__ | Singaporean propaganda sure is effective... | Jul 06 17:05 |
| roy__ | re https://twitter.com/ArrowSparrow/status/618056409263923200 | Jul 06 17:06 |
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| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6297563 | Jul 06 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #anonymity more important than #encryption where content of comms/access does not reveal identity. #tor quite effective at the former. | Jul 06 19:21 | |
| roy__ | "Encryption is the basis for anonymity. At least online." | Jul 06 19:21 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6297728 | Jul 06 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #apple is getting more aggressive with #copyright http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2416023/ios-84-kills-home-sharing-for-music-and-people-arent-happy-about-it "The walls are rising higher on the walled garden." -iopkh | Jul 06 19:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theinquirer.net | iOS 8.4 kills Home Sharing for music and people aren't happy about it- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/n0ttr ] | Jul 06 19:21 | |
| roy__ | "Where would apple be today without that silly BSD copyright licence…" | Jul 06 19:21 |
| roy__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses | Jul 06 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | BSD licenses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n0ttt ] | Jul 06 19:22 | |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6297594 | Jul 06 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Fiber... new web browser which I’m developing for KDE." https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/fiber-ui-experiments-conclusion/ just dumped #chromium (as secondary browser) for #rekonq | Jul 06 19:22 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> kver.wordpress.com | Fiber UI Experiments – Conclusion? | Ken Vermette [ http://ur1.ca/n0tu7 ] | Jul 06 19:22 | |
| roy__ | "rekonq is good - can one hack it? E.g. does it have about: config or can one choose which prgams/scripts to run when one clicks share or mailto ?" | Jul 06 19:22 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6297725 | Jul 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GCHQ did spy on Amnesty International, secret tribunal admits http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/gchq-spied-unlawfully-on-amnesty-international-secret-tribunal-admits/ http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2415978/gchq-did-illegally-spy-on-amnesty-international-investigatory-powers-tribunal-admits | Jul 06 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com | GCHQ did spy on Amnesty International, secret tribunal admits | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/n0tuc ] | Jul 06 19:23 | |
| roy__ | "don’t they run it ?" | Jul 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theinquirer.net | GCHQ did illegally spy on Amnesty International, Investigatory Powers Tribunal admits- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/n0tud ] | Jul 06 19:23 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/618153835660484608 | Jul 06 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wendycockcroft: Well they didn't get the "regime change" they wanted. https://t.co/W9WABbN535 | Jul 06 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Greece is being deliberately humiliated for daring to question austerity, Caroline Lucas says http://t.co/DI2pzC3Qfs #uk | Jul 06 21:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/618399107384655872 https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/618411131254779905 https://twitter.com/vongrippen/status/618400559494594560 | Jul 07 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ghabuntu: Alice Case Beats Microsoft Patent Troll, USPTO Director Michelle Lee Wants Reform: Latest developments surroun... http://t.co/qzVdlpqxr1 | Jul 07 17:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Alice Case Beats Microsoft Patent Troll, USPTO Director Michelle Lee Wants Reform | Techrights | Jul 07 17:14 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gholmer: I spit on your "New Microsoft"! Never forget, never forgive! http://t.co/ZYyWCtHuxA | Jul 07 17:14 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux/Android Carries on | Techrights | Jul 07 17:14 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@vongrippen: Yep. Same old @Microsoft, as I expected. Just shiny paint on a shitty company with the new CEO. http://t.co/0QjL9Z5JNu | Jul 07 17:14 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/618462414569402368 | Jul 07 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: UK and US demands to access encrypted data are 'unprincipled and unworkable' @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/BtfJWa3Zck | Jul 07 18:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theguardian.com | UK and US demands to access encrypted data are 'unprincipled and unworkable' | World news | The Guardian | Jul 07 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6298306 | Jul 07 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Thousands evacuated after train carrying toxic chemicals derails in Tennessee http://mashable.com/2015/07/02/train-derailment-tennessee/ maybe they should invest in their rail system, at last | Jul 07 18:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mashable.com | Thousands evacuated after train carrying toxic chemicals derails in Tennessee [ http://ur1.ca/mzrpk ] | Jul 07 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | It will never happen. Republicans fight every transportation advancement that doesn’t run on fossil fuels. There was so much ridiculous rhetoric in the fight to start California’s high speed rail project. They constantly try to bankrupt AMTRACK. It goes on and on. And thru also can’t be bothered to support the infrastructure when there’s more money needed for the defense budget."" | Jul 07 18:08 |
| schestowitz | "And not force conductors to work long hours." | Jul 07 18:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6298453 | Jul 07 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #slashdot is circling the drain & #dice seems to have done the same with #sourceforge while #idg quit all paper publications, relies on ads | Jul 07 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Circling the drain? Slashdot started circling the drain the moment Dice came into the picture and tried to push a bunch of IT-job centric posts and the like. At this point, it’s down the drain and in the North Pacific gyre." | Jul 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6298426 | Jul 07 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Sharing Features in #Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/07/02/new-sharing-features-in-firefox/ PRISMisation, but alas, at least not all are proprietary | Jul 07 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Diaspora* really needs to get its shit together and allow editing of posts and comments." | Jul 07 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blog.mozilla.org | New Sharing Features in Firefox | The Mozilla Blog [ http://ur1.ca/mzwa1 ] | Jul 07 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6298525 | Jul 07 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google got high http://www.itproportal.com/2015/07/02/google-releases-machine-dreaming-code-bizarre-images-start-popping-up/ http://www.biztekmojo.com/00896/google-opens-its-deep-dream-code-let-people-create-hallucinogenic-images http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-software/24923/google-opens-up-deep-dream-software-terrifies-world http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/01/google-open-sources-its-software-for-making-trippy-i | Jul 07 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "That is so #vaporwave, love it" | Jul 07 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.itproportal.com | Google's trippy project DeepDream project goes public | ITProPortal.com [ http://ur1.ca/n1vrc ] | Jul 07 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.biztekmojo.com | Google Opens Up its Deep Dream Code to Let People Create Hallucinogenic Images [ http://ur1.ca/n1vrx ] | Jul 07 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.itpro.co.uk | Google opens up Deep Dream software, terrifies world | IT PRO [ http://ur1.ca/n1vsw ] | Jul 07 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> venturebeat.com | Google open-sources its software for making trippy images with deep learning | VentureBeat | Big Data | by Jordan Novet [ http://ur1.ca/n1vtv ] | Jul 07 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.rappler.com | Google makes deep learning AI software open-source [ http://ur1.ca/n1vuu ] | Jul 07 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "for this case (hallu & Co.) i use/prefere a good pice of ‘shit’ or a (very) old ‘single malt’ :-) straight analoge and oldschool" | Jul 07 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6298768 | Jul 07 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Murdoch's henchmen at #newscorp #wsj spin the #opm data breach as fault of "Obama administration passivity" http://www.wsj.com/articles/were-losing-the-cyber-war-1435508565 #gop | Jul 07 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 07 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.wsj.com | We’re Losing the Cyber War - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/n22na ] | Jul 07 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | But… I thought Obama was gonna protect us all from the bad guys… My politicians have failed me. | Jul 07 18:17 |
| schestowitz | #Shocked | Jul 07 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | Re: FOSS Patents reports on more European Parliament interventions concerning the EPO | Jul 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > FYI: | Jul 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/07/17-members-of-european-parliament-raise.html | Jul 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 07 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: 17 Members of the European Parliament raise questions about human rights situation at the EPO [ http://ur1.ca/n2b1h ] | Jul 07 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | I mentioned that a week ago. He keeps me up to date in person... | Jul 07 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/618550040123019264 | Jul 08 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Privacy group files FTC complaint to push Google to extend right to be forgotten @schestowitz @ruskin147 http://t.co/9VXJZIbGCe | Jul 08 00:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cio.com | Privacy group files FTC complaint to push Google to extend right to be forgotten to US | CIO | Jul 08 00:10 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/618564930288095232 | Jul 08 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stonehead: @FreeOpenSouRRce @mhiramat Meh. The original source of that really bad scraper site is a CIO trash opinion piece https://t.co/n3Y6CPa5Ub | Jul 08 02:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #idg is back in the 1990s. Anti-FOSS #propaganda claiming it cannot be done as a business (easily refuted by facts) http://t.co/hnk9kgkxmx | Jul 08 02:12 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/618779713750872064 | Jul 08 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: RT @schestowitz https://t.co/I2JMhlz8gI Phasing in notion of "secret evidence"— “Let’s call this era the post-democracy or post-justice era” | Jul 08 14:54 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Phasing in notion of "secret evidence" http://sputniknews.com/world/20150630/1024015047.html not good for anyone... | Jul 08 14:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Serious response: wtf are you talking about?" | Jul 08 14:55 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6299495 | Jul 08 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Serious question: as the corporate media continues to glamorise Morten Storm, isn't this reinforcing perception of whites as traitors? | Jul 08 14:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | I'm talking about a mole in AQ | Jul 08 14:55 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ScottWLovesYou/status/618784721502388225 | Jul 08 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ScottWLovesYou: @riptari Consumer Watchdog is a fake Microsoft sponsored astroturfing firm. http://t.co/rCabXBrdhv Don't republish their fake garbage again. | Jul 08 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Did Microsoft Hire Consumer Watchdog to Attack Google? | Techrights | Jul 08 15:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/618795249499041792 | Jul 08 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @schestowitz do you listen to this podcast? If so, what do you think of it? https://t.co/bbi5dIWehK | Jul 08 15:59 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: AppleWatch: Android Clobbering iPhone & Cook's Short Slide to Insignifigance http://t.co/T7YLP18KUW #apple #android #linux | Jul 08 15:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/618795791361122304 | Jul 08 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @schestowitz true. Problem is so many websites use it, it's not funny. It IS one of the trashiest pieces of s/w ever | Jul 08 15:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | Many sites use it for ads; youtube has moved away from it. I don't need to install a blob to render animated ads. | Jul 08 15:59 |
| r_schestowitz | haven't listened to podcasts recently; takes too long | Jul 08 16:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/07/zionism-is-bullshit/ | Jul 08 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Zionism is Bullshit [ http://ur1.ca/n2l6w ] | Jul 08 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6299410 | Jul 08 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ohn Kiriakou: "the poor will know that their government did this for them." http://firedoglake.com/2015/07/01/why-wont-greece-take-a-deal/ #greece #imf | Jul 08 21:03 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> firedoglake.com | Why Won’t Greece Take a Deal? | Firedoglake [ http://ur1.ca/n2mhf ] | Jul 08 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:03 |
| schestowitz | He became a counter-terrorism operations officer and worked in Athens, Greece on Eurocommunist terrorism. In Greece, Kiriakou recruited foreign agents to spy for the United States, wiki | Jul 08 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Not old enough to have helped the Junta, but he can help a Junta in suits. | Jul 08 21:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kiriakou#CIA_career | Jul 08 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | John Kiriakou - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n2mho ] | Jul 08 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6299438 | Jul 08 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA data gathering too big to be efficient: ‘Like having to drink ten liters of water at once’ http://rt.com/op-edge/271015-nsa-bulk-data-collection/ | Jul 08 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | "with quantum computers which they have nowadays in fact the 2nd geneneration ones - the more data that goes in the better they get ,just more bullshit from the crims in action !" | Jul 08 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rt.com | NSA data gathering too big to be efficient: ‘Like having to drink ten liters of water at once’ — RT Op-Edge [ http://ur1.ca/n2mhv ] | Jul 08 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6299426 | Jul 08 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Ukrainian nationalist organization UNA-UNSO fought on the side of Nazi Germany during the Great Patriotic War." http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/ukrainian-govt-acknowledges-some-of-its-leaders-are-nazis/ | Jul 08 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rinf.com | Ukrainian Govt. Acknowledges Some of Its Leaders Are Nazis [ http://ur1.ca/n2mid ] | Jul 08 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | traitors… | Jul 08 21:04 |
| schestowitz | but nobody has yet mentioned the role of Ukr.fascists in the extermination camps - they were more feared than the SS. | Jul 08 21:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: stupidest comment of the day https://twitter.com/_clairegrube/status/618868543921233920 | Jul 08 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@_clairegrube: @directhex I don't get @schestowitz's logic. He hates mono bc it may infringe MS patents but he supports Android which infringes MS patents | Jul 08 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | As if I care for Mono or hate it because it 'dare' to infringe Microsoft's patents | Jul 08 21:42 |
| schestowitz | and as if Android is a Microsoft thing | Jul 08 21:42 |
| schestowitz | The comment makes no logic at all | Jul 08 21:43 |
| schestowitz | just shows how stupid she is | Jul 08 21:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonemirror/status/618901156664709120 https://twitter.com/michaeljsouth/status/618910407030214656 | Jul 08 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stonemirror: .@Nintendo_VX You'd have to ask @Schestowitz, you greasy little nematode. @michaeljsouth @_icze4r @JimNoblet @RejZoRSheep @koretzky | Jul 08 23:57 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@michaeljsouth: @schestowitz Hi, any chance you could get the home address on http://t.co/658ge1HF5W deleted? Was once public (whois) info, but not now. | Jul 08 23:57 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Richard Stallman and Bruce Perens Defamed by Troll | Techrights | Jul 08 23:57 | |
| schestowitz | I'm not getting involved in anything related to that troll | Jul 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | he's MAD | Jul 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | check out Lefty's twitter profile | Jul 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | the man is MAD | Jul 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | More than before | Jul 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | The name is fake, the cited site is MAD.... and the tweets too | Jul 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I don't know how ACCESS ever hired him for... ANYTHING | Jul 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Belongs in an asylum, clearly | Jul 08 23:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonemirror/status/618901574413225984 https://twitter.com/dioxmat/status/618868688687628288 | Jul 08 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stonemirror: @michaeljsouth TechRights is the open source community's version of Ralph Retort. @Nintendo_VX @_icze4r @JimNoblet @RejZoRSheep @koretzky | Jul 08 23:59 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dioxmat: @ljouanneau ouais enfin, pendant ce temps: http://t.co/7VABH8Gjds | Jul 08 23:59 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux/Android Carries on | Techrights | Jul 08 23:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/hackernewsfire/status/618837007456976896 | Jul 09 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hackernewsfire: Gates Foundation Critique http://t.co/4IwQ9YwGBZ | Jul 09 00:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Jul 09 00:01 | |
| MinceR | they needed someone to attack GNU/Linux? | Jul 09 00:02 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... this explains the heavy load today http://www.reddit.com/domain/techrights.org/ | Jul 09 00:02 |
| MinceR | (and poettering was unavailable) | Jul 09 00:02 |
| schestowitz | front page and 6 submiissions | Jul 09 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | techrights.org on reddit.com [ http://ur1.ca/n2o68 ] | Jul 09 00:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3cjfxo/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/ | Jul 09 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux/Android Carries on : Android [ http://ur1.ca/n2o6d ] | Jul 09 00:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Lol what has Samsung to do with Chinese government? Haha" | Jul 09 00:03 |
| schestowitz | "I never realized how stupid people look when they don't have even a cursory understanding of law or the patent, but still choose to talk about it." | Jul 09 00:03 |
| schestowitz | "Well, now you know. Thus is the word of google where everybody is a lawyer, doctor and a entrepreneur." | Jul 09 00:03 |
| schestowitz | "of course. Microsoft makes billions from those FUD agreements" | Jul 09 00:04 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft ❤ Linux [patent infringement]" | Jul 09 00:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/realtech/comments/3cjgrd/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/ | Jul 09 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux/Android Carries on : realtech [ http://ur1.ca/n2o6h ] | Jul 09 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | Original /r/technology thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3cjfy0/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/ | Jul 09 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux/Android Carries on : technology [ http://ur1.ca/n2o6k ] | Jul 09 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3ckqdv/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/ | Jul 09 00:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3cjfy0/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/ | Jul 09 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux / Android Carries on : technology [ http://ur1.ca/n2o6m ] | Jul 09 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | "The writer may have had some sort of point, but it was buried in childish hyperbole." | Jul 09 00:05 |
| schestowitz | ""Childish hyperbole" pretty much sums up 99% of what the Linux community says in regards to Microsoft." | Jul 09 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "They still believe it will be the year of linux." | Jul 09 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "It's in most phones, most TVs, most servers. A billion computers and you don't count that as a success?" | Jul 09 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "well it has.... kind of......for exploits that is." | Jul 09 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "Which is weird, right? Because I've been a Linux user for a long time... and there have been many exploits in the past too. But none of them have seen the publicity like they have this past year or so. I mean, nobody bothers to make logos, and branding for any Windows exploits that I've seen. " | Jul 09 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "It's coming! Any day now... ... ... 2157: It's coming! Any day now...."" | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "The only certainty in life is Windows > Linux in desktop." | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "the backlog of games that will never be ported to linux makes having windows a necessity(dual boot at least) unless you only play on consoles, that works." | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "Not just games. Adobe and most animation software. I don't use Apple but if Adobe ever ported to Linux I'd give it serious consideration. " | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "And even so, way more games on Windows." | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "I mean I guess you could say that since android uses the Linux kernel it already is, but I would argue that android shouldn't count due to Google Play Services."" | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "So despite all other changes under Nadella, they are the exact same because of one small facet of their organization?" | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "Thinking a new CEO is going to give up billions of dollars in pure profit is very, very stupid, he has a duty to his company and shareholders as well as to the industry." | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "Particularly when the previous CEO blows $8 billion to buy what amounted to a patent portfolio with no clear path to monetize that portfolio outside of lawsuits." | Jul 09 00:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: notice how they shift the debate | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | to Linux bashing | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | nothing to do with what I wrote | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | but anything to shoot the messenger | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft astroturfing reddit xbox | Jul 09 00:07 |
| TechrightsBN | [1] - Microsoft flatly denies astroturfing Reddit to bolster its coming Xbox ... | http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/06/08/microsoft-flatly-denies-astroturfing-reddit-to-bolster-its-coming-xbox-one-console/ | Jul 09 00:07 |
| TechrightsBN | [2] - Microsoft Caught Astroturfing Reddit to Praise Xbox One ... | http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/06/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-reddit-to-praise-xbox-one/ | Jul 09 00:07 |
| TechrightsBN | [3] - Account created the day after Xbox One reveal exclusively ... - Reddit | http://www.reddit.com/r/HailCorporate/comments/1fv43y/account_created_the_day_after_xbox_one_reveal/ | Jul 09 00:07 |
| TechrightsBN | [4] - Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit ... | http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ | Jul 09 00:07 |
| MinceR | the usual garbage | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish | Jul 09 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n2o73 ] | Jul 09 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, extend and extinguish" | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | "Bringing down a company comparable in size is a "small facet"!?" | Jul 09 00:07 |
| schestowitz | "What does "bringing down" mean to you? Patent squables are pretty much the norm in the tech industry." | Jul 09 00:08 |
| schestowitz | "If something is the norm today, does it mean it is morally right? It was the norm to own people at some point in the past -- should we just say "hey, everyone does it -- so it is ok"? If patents could be used to curb innovation and beat your competitors into submission (as oppose to competing with them) -- there is definitely something wrong with those patents." | Jul 09 00:08 |
| schestowitz | "I'm not saying the patent system doesn't need reworked. | Jul 09 00:08 |
| schestowitz | "What would be cool is that an act of "patent aggression" could result in that's patent "nullification" if the patent aggression was proven in court. Yes, I know this is a very grey area (just like the patent system itself), but it would be a great deterrent for patent holder to only use this tactic when they are 100% confident the actual infringement takes place." | Jul 09 00:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3chwxi/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/?limit=500 | Jul 09 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | There is No ‘New Microsoft’: Under Nadella, Patent Extortion Against Linux/Android Carries on : linux [ http://ur1.ca/n2o7i ] | Jul 09 00:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Here is, I think, the difference most people are not getting: | Jul 09 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft still wants to beat MacOS and Linux, they've just given up on the belief that you have to show up, and that you have to use Windows. You have shown them that no, in fact, you do not. You have shown them what a world without Windows looks like and it has frightened them to their core. | Jul 09 00:10 |
| schestowitz | The attacks on you the user will stop-- they realize seduction is more important than force when dealing with you, now. | Jul 09 00:10 |
| schestowitz | If anything, I expect a hungrier Microsoft now, one that will work with Apple or work with Google when it suits them, but will attack MacOS and Linux even harder when they feel they have to. Anything to win the user back, whether sweetening Windows, or poisoning Linux. | Jul 09 00:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | They're already telegraphing their intent to harm the cross-platform and decentralised server-based nature of Minecraft, since acquiring Mojang. | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | While they're adamant that they're not going to kill the Java version of the game, they're still launching "Minecraft for Windows 10," which is basically a hybrid of the lesser Xbox and Pocket versions. It works seamlessly between Windows 10, Xboxes and Windows tablets and phones...but no modding or playing on servers with Linux and OS X users. But you can play with "up to 7" friends on Xbox Live! | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | They're introducing something new and shiny to distract Windows users, with enough PR speak to fuel the fanboys who will keep pushing the idea that this won't take away from the Java game, but the intent is clear: through initial convenience and misleading, kill the Java version and cross platform support with it. | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | "I'm hoping that the community starts shifting to FOSS clones like Minetest which are more modular and more suited for mods." | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | "Then Msoft can sue them, too!" | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Sue them for what exactly? | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Gameplay isn't copyrightable and infiniminer was a thing before minecraft is anyway. | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Trademark infringement? I doubt anyone is going to mistake minetest or voxellands for minecraft . | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | "If a jury can decide rounded corners will confuse a user that they're not buying an Apple product, they surely can decide that any of those clones looks too similar." | Jul 09 00:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: at least no trolls in the top comments | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | the mono boosters like to incite the crowd against me in twitter | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Check our /r/truecraft! It's not FOSS but it is open source | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | EDIT: stupid me | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "The licence looks free and permissive." | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "It's licensed under the X11/MIT. Which is absolutely a free software license." | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | compelely off topic | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | they talk about minecraft | Jul 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | nothing to do with android and patents | Jul 09 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "But that's C++ and no one likes C++, so good luck finding people to make those mods." | Jul 09 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "Minetest has a c++ core that runs lua scripts. The c++ handles the graphics while the lua determines how the game world works." | Jul 09 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "Hilarious. If Notch is so anti-Microsoft maybe he shouldn't have sold Mojang to them." | Jul 09 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Top comments just dozens upon dozens of things about Mojang | Jul 09 00:13 |
| schestowitz | then dozens of comments about Vista 10 | Jul 09 00:14 |
| schestowitz | reddit is just od..... | Jul 09 00:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they don't talk about the article at all...more like random forum | Jul 09 00:14 |
| MinceR | reddit has gone to shit | Jul 09 00:15 |
| schestowitz | at least all this BS keeps any insults that may exist out of sight | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Wow I just bought Minecraft. Had no idea it was owned by Microsoft. This is the first time in over a decade that Microsoft has gotten money from me. I am surprised they haven't removed Linux support yet. | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | "Wow I just bought Minecraft. Had no idea it was owned by Microsoft. This is the first time in over a decade that Microsoft has gotten money from me. I am surprised they haven't removed Linux support yet." | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it was always shit | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | I thought | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | and hostile towards me whenever the mono boosters started stalking links to techrights | Jul 09 00:17 |
| schestowitz | to badmouth me in them | Jul 09 00:17 |
| schestowitz | common tactics | Jul 09 00:17 |
| schestowitz | defamation and bullying | Jul 09 00:17 |
| schestowitz | same thing was done in Ubuntu Forums many years ago | Jul 09 00:17 |
| schestowitz | "Unfortunately for Microsoft, Windows is getting more and more irrelevant as computing moves away from the desktop. Windows is far behind Linux on the server side and far behind Android on the mobile side." | Jul 09 00:18 |
| schestowitz | "Embrace, extend, extinguish 2.0" | Jul 09 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Oh, on topic comments start after around 200 comments | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft makes $2 billion a year from patent licenses, meaning they can't just fire their lawyer department. The broken patent system is as much to blame as Microsoft here. Our economic structures are simply not set up in a way that allows Microsoft to do the right thing and not collect $2 billion. | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | There's no mention of which software patents are being allegedly infringed, but there's a good chance it's about trivial things, such as a method for cutting a message in parts in order to transmit it over SMS. | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | "exFAT and similar has been the main culprit at least for Android-devices." | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | "So, if Nadella went to the lawyer department and said, "Don't do that!", it would continue due to the patent system?" | Jul 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, the software patent system makes it lucrative to be a patent troll for bullshit patents like "how to transmit a message in a number of smaller payloads". And in our economic system, shareholders will force a company to do the profitable thing, not the Right Thing. So he could fire the lawyer department, and then in the next shareholder meeting, he would be fired himself. A company will not willingly pass up the chance to make two | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | billion dollars just for idealistic reasons." | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | You are correct and I agree but my point is, if Microsoft wanted to stop doing that, they could, no matter what anyone thinks of the patent system. | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Of course, another question is, why is Microsoft wanting to a collect a mere $2 billion (relevant to their total income) at the harm and expense of others. | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "Because that's $2 billion more they can report to their investors... They don't run the company for the good of the world, they run the company to make money. $2B is still like 2-3% of their annual revenue. That's not a small chunk of change to investors." | Jul 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "And then lose 2 billion dollars..." | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | "And then get fired." | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | bascially as far as I understood if you're found not to enforce a patent, you'll bascially lose it and someone else can pick it up. | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Edit: Trademark not Patent law. Silly foreign me. | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | "I think this is true for trademark law, not sure if it's the same for patent law." | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | "Genuinely curious: What features have been kept out of Linux by legal action from Microsoft?" | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | "exfat" | Jul 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | And yet some devices use it as the "embedded portable" filesystem, especially those where the max filesize is problematic, e.g. capture cards. | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Wouldn't be surprised exFAT is the reason the PS4 only records up to 15 minutes. Not at all. | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | "fortunately samsung has created the patent-free open source F2FS file system which samsung and motorola use." | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | "I think you're thinking of FAT32. exFAT's max file size is supposed to be HUGE." | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | "No, you misunderstood, the reason the PS4 doesn't record more could be the file size, because they couldn't use this supposed "common" filesystem." | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:23 |
| schestowitz | The PS3 and PS4 are both using modified FreeBSD, they should have been able to use ext4 or btrfs or something. Also, since exFAT is flash drive optimized, they could alternatively have used F2FS (Flash-Friendly File System). The latter is still in development but pretty stable. Also, since most file systems except NTFS, exFAT, and HFS+ are not proprietary, they could have forked and modified one to their needs, it would only have to work | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | on specific hardware anyway. | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Eh, who am I kidding, management told them to use the cheapest method... FAT32. | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | FAT32 because some people plug in external drives into their PS4s and expect to read their files anywhere else. NTFS and ext4 lead to complains when I tried. It's easier to assume (and use) the lowest common denominator. | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | The Xbox 360 on the other hand did not use this advantage but added some strange NTFS derived hidden partition crap you had to hack around with parted if you wanted to use a storage device for anything else too. | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | "AFAIK both PlayStations use a modified UFS on their internal hard drive. Neither btrfs nor f2fs run on FreeBSD since they rely on the Linux kernel, while you only have a read-only driver for ext4 and ReiserFS, the only Linux fs with write support is ext2. FreeBSD doesn't have the filesystem utopia we know from linux, there isn't much choice. FAT32 is one of the only well supported filesystem not from the original Unix world" | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | "16 Eib -1 is the limit for exFAT."" | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | "I know that Microsoft has made deals to lock down UEFI bootloaders on devices, making it extremely difficult and in some cases impossible to install Linux on them." | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | "Are they the only ones who get to mess with UEFI through OS updates too? I've had Win 8.1 updates wipe my secure boot keys multiple times and had it reset boot order to Windows partition first instead of GRUB first." | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | "Windows doesn't accept there being other operating systems and tends to do shit like that. It's the main reason SAN switches were invented, for example. (Before windows got support for SAN-adapters everyone just used hubs.) There were a couple of mainframe databases that got deleted because windows just reformatted a couple of drives at random during installations/updates because it didn't understand the disk format." | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | "Win10 nuked all of my partitions on /dev/sda when I tried to install it to an empty /dev/sdb :/" | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | 'that's why they always say when doing a dual boot always install windows first" | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | "That's hardly legal action though. They just used their OEM sticker program to get this." | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Their OEM sticker program is effectively a product bundling racket.... | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | In a world where the government cared the least bit about consumers and the greater good; MS would be taken to task over the UEFI bootloader shenanigans with their sticker program, which are 1000X as bad as bundling a free Internet Explorer with Windows. | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | In a world where the government cared the least bit about consumers and the greater good; | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | TTIP is a good example of how many fucks they give about consumers, democracy and everything except big business greed. | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "so, they give -1 fucks?" | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "-1 or -2, idk, but then I'm unfamiliar with how fucks-giving behave when it approaches zero, does it go asymptotical towards zero or does it go straight towards negative infinity?" | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "Which everyone still thinks it was ridiculous to prosecute MS for, legally right or wrong." | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | Who is "everyone"? I thought it was an excellent decision. There is not nearly enough anti-monopoly action being taken against tech giants, which leads to people becoming used to the status quo. Then they think it's odd when these companies do get prosecuted. | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | People accept far more anti-competitive bullshit from these technology giants than they ever would from any other industry. | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | There is no argument you can make that won't sound dumb which says Microsoft shouldn't be able to bundle IE with Windows."" | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "I know its not really a legal action, but it was all I could think of and it reflects their overall mood towards Linux anywhere but in their cloud. | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | '"The fact that I had to move and rename grub's efi file to trick the motherboard in my sony vaio into thinking it was windows is insane to me. So infuriating." | Jul 09 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "details? that sounds crazy" | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "" | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260193 | Jul 09 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ubuntuforums.org | [ubuntu] [Sony Vaio Pro 13] UEFI dual boot, with Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS [ http://ur1.ca/n2obu ] | Jul 09 00:27 | |
| schestowitz | Short version: the BIOS will only look for /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi so you have to move your GRUB EFI file there and rename it. The problem with that is GRUB now can't find your Windows efi file if you're dual booting since you've renamed it. | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | There's actually a whole lot of conflicting information out there about what exactly is going on and what to do about it. Some people claim it looks in /EFI/Boot and /EFI/redhat as well. Others claim you need to rename and move shimx64.efi into /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi. | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | The whole thing is a nightmare. I had to wipe my computer and reinstall Fedora recently and after a few hours I said fuck it and loaded REFind onto a USB drive. I now need a flash drive to be able to boot my computer. | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Fuck Sony. I'm never purchasing anything from them again. | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "and people ask my why the LowRISC project excites me so much" | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "thats why i love 3ed party MB's most of the new ones work well with Linux" | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | ... | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | long discussion about UEFI basically | Jul 09 00:27 |
| schestowitz | not patents :/ | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft is everybody's friend" | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/article/2345432/microsoft-subnet/microsoft--it-s-time-to-officially-rescind-the-linux-lawsuit-threats.html | Jul 09 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft, it's time to officially rescind the Linux lawsuit threats | Network World [ http://ur1.ca/n2oc6 ] | Jul 09 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft is absolutely different under Nadella in many ways. Just because they continue one prior practice doesn't invalidate or negate all of the differences. | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | BS! | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "Conversely, just because they've made some changes, even sweeping changes, it doesn't mean they have changed their core nature." | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "You're both right. Microsoft gonna Microsoft." | Jul 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "The old guard did make him CEO because they saw something they liked. The same old business under a new lick of paint. | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | 'Indeed | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | "They upload a few things on github and suddenly they are a totally different company. Can't believe people actually fall for this shit." | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Eh...Microsoft is much different in many ways from the Microsoft of 10 years ago. | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | That being said, this is not one of those ways. | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | ".NET for Linux. Even 5 years ago I would have never thought that would happen, but it did. It might not be the best kid to play with in town, but it's trying more than before." | Jul 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | They aren't doing that out of the goodness of their heart. They are trying to take a bite out of the Linux server market share. | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft wants to see a world where running a Linux server is a second class experience and buying windows server is the best fix. That's the reason for porting .NET to Linux. | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | "Or, just maybe, their bread and butter is no longer the Windows OS and .NET might be their golden ticket. MSDN licenses and being a .NET Gold Parter is more profitable than a mere OS." | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | "Knowing Microsoft, it's probably both" | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | I disagree and so do the public statements of MS' CEO. Microsoft has read the tee leaves and knows the days of software as a product are drawing to a close. Everyone is moving to service-based business models. If MS is going to succeed in that space they need to get people using Azure regardless of whether they are running on Windows Server or Linux. They need people buying Office 365 regardless of wether they use Windows or Mac, which is | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | why we see vastly improved Office for Mac. They need people using MS development tools because they'll be better integrated with MS' services. | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | On mobile, they are still pushing Windows Phone but I suspect that will change before too long. All the money in mobile comes from advertising and app stores so, mark my words, we'll see Windows Store on Android eventually. And they would be on iOS if Apple permitted third-party stores. | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | "I'd say .net is more about the office suite than server applications...there's no reason to want to run microsoft server products on a linux server, the two interoperate pretty well at this point." | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | "Oh come on-they are going to release Windows 10! They are fresh now, look at the Ui!" | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | "" | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Pastel rectangles! It's pure design genius! | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | They must have hired all the raw talents that sat in the /g/ desktop ricing threads unexploited... | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Now I smell Microsoft astroturf: | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | "I agree with this guy. Also, Microsoft has fully and openly shown they are supporting Linux now. Azure lets you use at least 5 different mainstream distros with more being added over time (that is better support then Rackspace on different distros). They also have open source many of their stuff, like .NET core, and even made a Linux version for a lot of it. Even the article never mentioned they are attacking Linux. Microsoft is | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | attacking Android, their largest competitor in the mobile market where they are trying to get market share. Of course they are attacking Android. Android is not always synonymous with Linux" | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | "It's sad to see the tech industry, once relatively free to innovate, now bogged down in a flurry of lawsuits. Most of the technology news I see these days has nothing to do with any new technologies." | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | The world of manufacturing welcomes the tech industry. | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | You would be even more sad if you knew how many reasonable capital projects are killed because of a patent somewhere. | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | "If it doesn't violate an NDA or something like that, can you give a vaguely worded example of one?" | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Before this it was SCO. Before that it was Apple suing Microsoft while Xerox was also suing Apple all for the same thing at the same time. Before any of that it was IBM suing people for making PC's. Before that Xerox was suing IBM to keep them out of the photocopier market | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | It's pretty much always been like this. If you can't compete you try to use any means at your disposal to get ahead of the competition. | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | "It's business, and legally they have a right to do this. Why stop? It happens also between Samsung and apple. They sue each other to death, but Samsung makes the iPhone chips.." | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft is as friendly and open to the general public, as a suspicious guy in a van is honestly about giving kids rides and treats. Expecting it to become a "positive, benevolent organization" is as unreasonable as expecting a whaling ship crew to start running an aquarium." | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | "Didn't our friends in the Chinese Government released the patent list? The SFLC had a preliminary declaration that linux didn't infringe, and then not a word anymore. I believe this is behind this round of litigation. We are going in to win this time." | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Yup | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | "Who exactly? Because as you can read on the article, Kyocera settled this with MS." | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | "WE are going to win against the giant Microsoft! How dare you question WE; WE > Micro$oft!" | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | "These things are invariably a commercial decision. Patent litigation would have tied them up for years and cost a fortune; principles are expensive and sometimes have to be sacrificed when you're going to have to explain yourself to the Board." | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | HAHA | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: then come the mono boosters | Jul 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz | too late to the party | Jul 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz | with personal attacks | Jul 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz | they can't help it | Jul 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft has turned over a new leaf (hopefully) on listening to developers and end-users. That's good. They still love money." | Jul 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz | "Can someone ELI5 what the OP article talks about and what exactly kyocera did in this case ?" | Jul 09 00:35 |
| schestowitz | "This is why we need Sailfish and Tizen to succeed. Tizen was specifically designed by Samsung to not violate patents as they were paying $4-6 per device sold in patent fees to microsoft and they were paying google money for their play store and other apps. Last i read microsoft was making $2bn/yr from android patents." | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Read this article through again, and while reading it think to yourself "this guy is angry at microsoft, this is anti-microsoft propoganda". | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Just as an experiment - then you might see what I saw. Yes, valid points are made. Yes Patient law is evil, but this sounds like the kind of "M$ are satan" rants of the 1990's, the rants that stopped when we saw the face of apple - when we saw the heart of darkness! | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | But triumphent anti-apple fanatism aside, whining on about how terrible M$ are in todays age is pointless. They still own the desktop market, at their current rate of expansion, mobile phones are going to be theirs too. | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | If they filed a patient, let them keep it - we can't fight M$, so we have to work around them.... in that 0.9% share of the desktop market that is Linux - that tiny little fragment of a persentage point that M$ don't care about - unless we touch their precious patients. | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | "This is not about the desktop in particular. While Linux is small on the desktop it's the most widely used OS on the planet - by far. I have no doubt that when Windows is a distant memory Linux is still going strong. It has proven to be resilient to all attacks but it hasn't been so by being complacent, it has succeeded by being consistent and vigilant. So this guy may come off as a zealot but the case he's making is still sound. We need | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | to continue to fight for a better more open world and this is just one little skirmish at the outskirts of the empire." | Jul 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | "Nothing killed the concept of Linux better than Android did. Microsoft is trailing behind that damage." | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | "The concept of Linux is to be a kernel that works well and is free. How was that killed by Android?" | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Wow, the spin never ends | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | inciting Linux against Android again? | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | "Replacing the traditional userland with the Java-based abomination, and increasingly placing functionality into the proprietary Google Play Services framework. Also fostering a culture of devices where it is the exception rather than the norm to actually comply with the GPL, and where most devices are essentially Tivo-ized anyway." | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | So home router manufacturers killed the concept of Linux way before Android. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Android using Linux means one thing: Linux is used in a commercial product. This does not kill any concept. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Linux is also not tied to any specific userland. It is traditionally shipped with the GNU userland on desktop machines but we are not talking about these here. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Also fostering a culture of devices where it is the exception rather than the norm to actually comply with the GPL | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | I'm still not sure about your reasoning here. Linux implies stuff that is not related to Linux should be GPL? | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | No, as there are tons of companies that won't release the kernel sources that are covered under the GPL. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Feel free to use http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ if have any company that violates the GPL at hand. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.softwarefreedom.org | Software Freedom Law Center | Jul 09 00:37 | |
| schestowitz | Most companies I am aware of release the sources. Since these sources are most of the time the least interesting bit (the magic is in the custom drivers / firmware blobs) this does not help much though. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Sure a lot of home routers have the same problem, but I think Android phone/tablet usage and modding leaves many more users impacted than those who want to flash their consumer level routers. | Jul 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | If the goal is freedom, I would say it is approximately the same number of people since approximately everyone who owns an android phone has access to the internet at home (and therefore a router). The amount of people modding their android phones is still small compared to the device count. | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | So in essence, Android killed nothing, especially no concept of a kernel. Android under Google was never a system designed to be free in all aspects and it was clear from the beginning that Google wants to integrate it into its mostly proprietary infrastructure. This has nothing to do with Linux, Java or Android. It has to do with how most businesses work today. | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | "Because when we say Linux, we actually mean GNU. When I use "Linux", I interact with GNU userland. So, Android is something completely different." | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | I strongly disagree here. Android made it necessary for producers of hardware to make them work with Linux. This means that it has opened the way for better compatibility, it has also shown other companies that Linux presents big business opportunities. It takes time to cash in on this but it is happening. | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | The advantage of Linux (compared to proprietary projects) is that even with a longer route to market it still has a high chance of being a profitable strategy. So big companies (and small) are working on Linux based offerings of all kinds. If you think of this development as an exponential process it's already gone past the inflection point and is about to explode. | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | "There's loads of new stuff at Microsoft at the moment, like terrible haircuts." | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | "There went my hopes, back to Google (implying that google is any better)" | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | "Just don't run chrome on hardware with a microphone and you'll be fine?" | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | You still trust any tech company? | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Good for you. | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 00:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonemirror/status/618921090010730496 | Jul 09 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | nutcase | Jul 09 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | >>> >> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150705/18174231556/spain-government-goes-full-police-state-enacts-law-forbidding-dissent-unauthorized-photography-law-enforcement.shtml | Jul 10 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techdirt.com | Spain Government Goes Full Police State; Enacts Law Forbidding Dissent, 'Unauthorized' Photography Of Law Enforcement | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/n2yyo ] | Jul 10 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jul 10 09:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> see also the long thread in misc@ | Jul 10 09:36 |
| schestowitz | >> > Wrong link? | Jul 10 09:36 |
| schestowitz | > Yes. Sorry. | Jul 10 09:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 10 09:36 |
| schestowitz | > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150708134520&mode=flat | Jul 10 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-undeadly.org | Microsoft Now OpenBSD Foundation Gold Contributor [ http://ur1.ca/n31go ] | Jul 10 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | Money as a weapon, like against Linux via Novell. | Jul 10 09:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/619441386006446080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/619440907373420549 https://twitter.com/afneil/status/619413777792958466 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/619438215758528512 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/619436526947188736 | Jul 10 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: RIP, Caspar Bowden, tireless, brilliant, effective #UK #privacy warrior http://t.co/2g9fogaH19 | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> boingboing.net | RIP, Caspar Bowden, tireless, brilliant, effective UK privacy warrior – Boing Boing | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: More patent trolls dressed up as “Venture Capital” https://t.co/nPV9uG5YAd https://t.co/rsPbdyikCu | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techdirt.com | Venture Capital Trade Association Hires Patent Troll Lawyers, Fights Against Patent Reform... Even As Most VCs Want Patent Reform | Techdirt | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> iptrolltracker2.wordpress.com | Trolls Are A Nightmare Dressed Like A…Nightmare | IP Troll Tracker | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@afneil: Greece has sent Brussels an austerity package tougher than the one rejected in the referendum. Syriza: what was the point? | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #freesw is eating #oracle because over time people are made more convinced the former can get the job done, confidence increases | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Open-Source #Databases Are Set to Overtake Commercial Databases https://t.co/M0W1kVHRPW #freesw | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> marketrealist.com | Open-Source Databases Are Set to Overtake Commercial Databases - Market Realist | Jul 10 10:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/619435793870909441 | Jul 10 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #OpenStack #Meiji Rescinded, New Names up for Vote http://t.co/QamPGf9kqm #saas #freesw | Jul 10 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.internetnews.com | OpenStack Meiji Rescinded, New Names up for Vote - InternetNews. | Jul 10 10:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6314872 | Jul 10 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Spain Government Goes Full Police State; Enacts Law Forbidding Dissent, 'Unauthorized' Photography Of Law Enforcement https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150705/18174231556/spain-government-goes-full-police-state-enacts-law-forbidding-dissent-unauthorized-photography-law-enforcement.shtml | Jul 10 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PObean/status/619450694039433217 | Jul 10 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PObean: RT shows the legitimacy of state power when people power manages to restore democracy or expose corruption at... s… https://t.co/cVx7faHksr | Jul 10 11:23 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #spain shows the legitimacy of state power when people power manages to restore democracy or expose corruption at... https://t.co/Hb0SM9lnAZ | Jul 10 11:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/6316114 | Jul 10 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-joindiaspora.com | #spain shows the legitimacy of state power when people power manage... | Jul 10 11:23 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6303131 | Jul 10 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mother called; got brainwashed by newspapers against the Greek; thought they were "lazy" and will "go bankrupt"; who owns these newspapers? | Jul 10 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | like my sister - voted against ken livingstone because “everyone” was talking badly about him - couldn’t think of one thing he had done wrong though - evening standard + BBC… | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | A jewish ES journo who stalked ken to a private party played offended when ken compared him to a concentration guard - ignoro journo doesn’t know that people like ken were put into camps long before jews were - where they stayed until they were executed just before the defeat. I wrote to the jewish Board of Deputies, expressing my discuss at a cheap journo hiding behind the skirts of the holocaust just to make attacks on Livingstone - | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | got no answer. | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Oh, my sister voted tory because they’re already rich so they can’t be corrupted… | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Do remember this? | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nb-HIHyMkk#t=1m24s | Jul 10 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Giving Up Liberty for Freedom - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n35s9 ] | Jul 10 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | "like my sister - voted against ken livingstone because “everyone” was talking badly about him - couldn’t think of one thing he had done wrong though - evening standard + BBC…" | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | LOL at the video... how idiotic people can be. | Jul 10 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BernardoCadarn/status/619588796972171264 | Jul 10 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BernardoCadarn: @schestowitz what's your view on Protonmail? | Jul 10 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | never used it, just read about it | Jul 10 20:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BernardoCadarn/status/619589935272697856 | Jul 10 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BernardoCadarn: @schestowitz I quite like it. | Jul 10 20:37 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6303070 | Jul 11 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Shocking Scope of the NSA's #XKEYSCORE #Surveillance http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/21193-the-shocking-scope-of-the-nsa-s-xkeyscore-surveillance as bad as #espionage gets? | Jul 11 02:35 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 11 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.thenewamerican.com | The Shocking Scope of the NSA's XKEYSCORE Surveillance [ http://ur1.ca/n38pz ] | Jul 11 02:35 | |
| schestowitz | Now we know how Microsoft partners use GNU/Linux when they want systems that are cheap, functional, and easy to scale. Facebook was much the same, as was Yahoo. Hotmail before them was supposedly BSD and still is. | Jul 11 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Why would people who make such extensive use of GNU/Linux themselves try to sell you Windows? For the same reason they use GNU/Linux, to spy on you. | Jul 11 02:35 |
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| schestowitz | Re: FOSS Patents reports on more European Parliament interventions concerning the EPO | Jul 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > FYI: | Jul 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/07/17-members-of-european-parliament-raise.html | Jul 07 23:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 07 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: 17 Members of the European Parliament raise questions about human rights situation at the EPO [ http://ur1.ca/n2b1h ] | Jul 07 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | I mentioned that a week ago. He keeps me up to date in person... | Jul 07 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/618550040123019264 | Jul 08 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Privacy group files FTC complaint to push Google to extend right to be forgotten @schestowitz @ruskin147 http://t.co/9VXJZIbGCe | Jul 08 00:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cio.com | Privacy group files FTC complaint to push Google to extend right to be forgotten to US | CIO | Jul 08 00:10 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6303070 | Jul 11 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Shocking Scope of the NSA's #XKEYSCORE #Surveillance http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/21193-the-shocking-scope-of-the-nsa-s-xkeyscore-surveillance as bad as #espionage gets? | Jul 11 02:35 | |
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| schestowitz | Now we know how Microsoft partners use GNU/Linux when they want systems that are cheap, functional, and easy to scale. Facebook was much the same, as was Yahoo. Hotmail before them was supposedly BSD and still is. | Jul 11 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Why would people who make such extensive use of GNU/Linux themselves try to sell you Windows? For the same reason they use GNU/Linux, to spy on you. | Jul 11 02:35 |
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