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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro | Jul 19 00:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Many New Features | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8uyV7rn7Hy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5r1r | Jul 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features | Tux Machines | Jul 19 00:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD 10.2 beta 2 http://t.co/0ToQA0qgag | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 10.2 beta 2 | Tux Machines | Jul 19 00:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5r1s | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Releases http://t.co/MhuZBhpYxH | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5r1t | Jul 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Releases | Tux Machines | Jul 19 00:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/2fomfzDWuJ | Jul 19 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5rfm | Jul 19 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jul 19 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/40zs6ibOgZ | Jul 19 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5rfo | Jul 19 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Ve2CWv9rL0 | Jul 19 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 19 01:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5rfp | Jul 19 01:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/MqA5u1ISuk | Jul 19 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 19 02:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5ryo | Jul 19 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/AeyuzEtA2t | Jul 19 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 02:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5ryp | Jul 19 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 18/7/2015: Android PC, Chromixium 1.5 | Jul 19 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/zbZ9JQWehv (techrights.org) | Jul 19 02:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5ryr | Jul 19 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2015: Android PC, Chromixium 1.5 | Techrights | Jul 19 02:00 | |
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| oiaohm | https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/axeld/2015-07-17_introducing_launch_daemon | Jul 19 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.haiku-os.org | Introducing the launch_daemon | Haiku Project [ http://ur1.ca/n5ob8 ] | Jul 19 04:56 | |
| oiaohm | Another OS project looking to give up on script based start. | Jul 19 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First-Person Exploration Puzzler 'The Magic | Jul 19 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Circle' Released For Linux, Has Demo | Jul 19 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5ok0oUZCxU (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 19 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5uc6 | Jul 19 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | First-Person Exploration Puzzler 'The Magic Circle' Released For Linux, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 06:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV, like Google TV, still too ahead of | Jul 19 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | its time http://t.co/JtjjKafvzv | Jul 19 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android TV, like Google TV, still too ahead of its time - SlashGear | Jul 19 06:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) | Jul 19 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5uc8 | Jul 19 06:36 |
| msb__ | . | Jul 19 07:26 |
| msb__ | I was looking at a TV schedule with Firefox, and accidently got into a mode where the pageup/down keys switched tabs instead of scrolling. And I accidently went to a tv schedule tab that started talking about "celebrities" and how they were pregnant on set, as revealed by their instagram messages, etc. | Jul 19 07:28 |
| msb__ | I couldn't stop it from talking. I killed flash but that didn't help. I didn't know which of the tabs was talking. | Jul 19 07:28 |
| msb__ | It felt like I was schizophrenic and couldn't stop the voices in my head! | Jul 19 07:29 |
| msb__ | And what they were saying was for morons! | Jul 19 07:29 |
| msb__ | Finally I found the offensive tab and killed it, and the voices stopped. | Jul 19 07:30 |
| msb__ | If the govt kidnaps me because of my website and wants to torture me, all they have to do is tune in "Entertainment Tonite" or whatever that was. I'll confess to anything! | Jul 19 07:32 |
| msb__ | Yes, I dropped germ warfare on North Korea! I admit it! | Jul 19 07:33 |
| msb__ | Please, send me back to Room 101! | Jul 19 07:36 |
| msb__ | Put the rats back on me! | Jul 19 07:37 |
| msb__ | Just turn off that TV show!!! | Jul 19 07:37 |
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| msb__ | Man, it's a good thing I haven't taken any drugs! | Jul 19 07:38 |
| msb__ | Sorry, was that off-topic? I was using Linux... | Jul 19 07:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to squeeze more battery life from your | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux laptop http://t.co/NelDCaNB0m | Jul 19 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorld | Jul 19 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcworld.com) | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8n | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released! | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lFCwKRngBt (blog.linuxmint.com) | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8o | Jul 19 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released! | Jul 19 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you'll see this year http://t.co/y7YNAbWrTD | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jul 19 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device you'll see this year | The Verge | Jul 19 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8p | Jul 19 08:42 |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/622673966788964352 | Jul 19 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@georgebaily: @schestowitz these look awesome and would be cool even if they didn't look so good... Wonder why the reviewer is so negative... | Jul 19 08:48 | |
| roy__ | Seems like most a branding exercise to me | Jul 19 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Jolla Introduces New Reference Designs And | Jul 19 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software To Fight Android | Jul 19 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CoznneKHQp (www.forbes.com) | Jul 19 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Jolla Introduces New Reference Designs And Software To Fight Android - Forbes | Jul 19 08:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5var | Jul 19 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, | Jul 19 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir | Jul 19 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 08:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vas | Jul 19 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - Softpedia | Jul 19 08:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CloudRouter 2.0 Hits Beta with OpenDaylight | Jul 19 08:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lithium and Fedora 22 http://t.co/fkIwYyvyA6 | Jul 19 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | CloudRouter 2.0 Hits Beta with Open Daylight Lithium and Fedora 22 | Jul 19 08:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com) | Jul 19 08:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vau | Jul 19 08:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Install Linux On http://t.co/vDHzcigdy6 | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.makeuseof.com) | Jul 19 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can Install Linux On | Jul 19 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vel | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hFUKLn38SQ (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vem | Jul 19 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait - Softpedia | Jul 19 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acceleration http://t.co/GBkH7yljxH | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware Acceleration | Tux Machines | Jul 19 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5ven | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 19 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 19 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YpAQVhUamo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vep | Jul 19 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Tux Machines | Jul 19 09:09 | |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Gatorau/status/622681767795929089 | Jul 19 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Gatorau: Because ethics. https://t.co/cWFQeKFuYK | Jul 19 09:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Torture approved: Why US psychological association's apology is not enough http://t.co/QPzQRzZMcB legal action needed, not early retirement | Jul 19 09:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux 4.2 Mainline Kernel From Ubuntu Is | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Finally Working Again http://t.co/zxvpCi78DX | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vmp | Jul 19 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Linux 4.2 Mainline Kernel From Ubuntu Is Finally Working Again - Phoronix | Jul 19 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telegram App | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, New Thumbnailer | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/P6gCkR0IwI (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vmq | Jul 19 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telegram App Improvements, New Thumbnailer - Softpedia | Jul 19 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 4 | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Adds Support for IBM POWER8 | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xcS504K0hs (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vmr | Jul 19 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 4 Adds Support for IBM POWER8 - Softpedia | Jul 19 09:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/h4NnXdvc75 (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5voc | Jul 19 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell - Phoronix | Jul 19 09:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like a streaming hose of vid | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/N8fg7sPnvI (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vod | Jul 19 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly like a streaming hose of vid • The Register | Jul 19 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622668913386590208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622669396964675584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622670492969869312 | Jul 19 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts https://t.co/4nFSDkpL3G #games #gnu #linux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Feral Interactive look like they will soon be kings of the Linux porting business" https://t.co/uCK9L1Vdu7 #gnu #linux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feral Interactive Are Teasing Yet Another New Port | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop http://t.co/GfPCgbiMhT #gnu #linux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorld | Jul 19 09:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, | Jul 19 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir | Jul 19 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - Softpedia | Jul 19 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5w4p | Jul 19 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro | Jul 19 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Many New Features | Jul 19 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UXObR6b9NX (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5w4q | Jul 19 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features - Softpedia | Jul 19 10:53 | |
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| r_schestowitz | "Confusing trolls with astroturfers, perhaps intentionally? There are quite a few interests that don't want the topic of astroturfing to rise to visibility." http://yle.fi/uutiset/webmaster_claims_pro-russia_trolls_stalk_finlands_biggest_russian_forum/8165524 | Jul 19 16:24 |
| r_schestowitz | iophk | Jul 19 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Webmaster claims pro-Russia trolls stalk Finland's biggest Russian forum | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/n5yvj ] | Jul 19 16:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | when we do it, it's "warriors", then they do it, it's "trolls" | Jul 19 16:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware | Jul 19 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acceleration http://t.co/lJwrLLwyZ7 | Jul 19 16:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware Acceleration - Phoronix | Jul 19 16:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 19 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 19 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) | Jul 19 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Alphr | Jul 19 18:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone...' | Jul 19 18:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the future of phones? http://t.co/09u9qBmgY6 | Jul 19 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi | Jul 19 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Jul 20 00:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Tux Machines | Jul 20 00:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: is | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | this the future of phones? | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (via @tuxmachines) | Jul 20 00:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4 | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for Kit Kat | Tux Machines | Jul 20 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/nqA5xtqvZZ | Jul 20 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 20 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.2-rc3 http://t.co/kPEkIYcwOd | Jul 20 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.2-rc3 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 01:11 | |
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| cubexyz | the tide as turned: | Jul 20 02:01 |
| cubexyz | an investor that put $100,000 into Microsoft stock 10 years ago would now have $69,000 | Jul 20 02:01 |
| amarsh04 | anyone familiar with KDE 4.X here? | Jul 20 02:48 |
| amarsh04 | fixed it, problem was that upgrading kde-window-manager had removed that functionality | Jul 20 03:11 |
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| cubexyz | why the heck is firefox using 100% cpu on wired.com | Jul 20 03:20 |
| cubexyz | java is off | Jul 20 03:20 |
| cubexyz | flash is off | Jul 20 03:20 |
| cubexyz | guess I'll try noscript | Jul 20 03:20 |
| cubexyz | such a crock | Jul 20 03:21 |
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| cubexyz | ok... better now | Jul 20 03:22 |
| cubexyz | it crap, but not as crap | Jul 20 03:22 |
| cubexyz | s/it/still/ | Jul 20 03:22 |
| amarsh04 | I sometimes have iceweasel hit peak cpu for a while | Jul 20 03:53 |
| amarsh04 | but that's with close to 1000 tabs open | Jul 20 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It | Jul 20 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Needs Testing http://t.co/nUsNwYWqAS | Jul 20 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 04:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing | Tux Machines | Jul 20 04:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux | Jul 20 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/JezXShmLOl | Jul 20 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 20 04:16 | |
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| msb__ | cubexyz: For me, Firefox is running about 20% (of two cores) and goes to about 45% on wired.com, without shutting off anything. | Jul 20 04:47 |
| cubexyz | yeah, part of it is my old computer(s) | Jul 20 04:47 |
| msb__ | I've seen much worse websites. I think FF is being made more robust these days. | Jul 20 04:49 |
| cubexyz | noscript helps a lot | Jul 20 04:49 |
| msb__ | kills javascript? | Jul 20 04:50 |
| cubexyz | noscript can allow/forbid scripts | Jul 20 04:52 |
| cubexyz | process status can't really tell what firefox is doing | Jul 20 04:53 |
| msb__ | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ | Jul 20 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | NoScript Security Suite :: Add-ons for Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/407bf ] | Jul 20 04:53 | |
| msb__ | Wow! I hope it doesn't block porn! | Jul 20 04:53 |
| cubexyz | uh, no comment :) | Jul 20 04:54 |
| cubexyz | I just don't want ads using up my CPU cycles | Jul 20 04:54 |
| cubexyz | or whatever it's doing | Jul 20 04:54 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: are you saying that FF can use cpu cycles that are not seen by ps? | Jul 20 04:55 |
| cubexyz | well not exactly... the command shown is always .../firefox | Jul 20 04:55 |
| cubexyz | so ps can't differentiate between firefox threads | Jul 20 04:56 |
| cubexyz | I could run firefox in gdb I suppose | Jul 20 04:58 |
| msb__ | And spend the rest of your life trying to figure out what it was telling you. | Jul 20 05:02 |
| cubexyz | that's the way it is | Jul 20 05:03 |
| msb__ | Just from looking at how many data files it has, I think it's very complex. | Jul 20 05:03 |
| cubexyz | mozilla is trying to get firefox to use less memory with it's memshrink project: | Jul 20 05:05 |
| cubexyz | 4.3 BSD Quasijarus UNIX | Jul 20 05:05 |
| cubexyz | Fri Jul 17 17:11:37 EST 2015 | Jul 20 05:05 |
| cubexyz | oops | Jul 20 05:05 |
| cubexyz | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink | Jul 20 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.mozilla.org | Performance/MemShrink - MozillaWiki [ http://ur1.ca/n66bz ] | Jul 20 05:06 | |
| msb__ | FF seems to be starting faster. I think it only loads content into tabs that are visible. | Jul 20 05:09 |
| cubexyz | msb__, did you know you can search klipper history? | Jul 20 05:22 |
| cubexyz | it's kind of a hidden thing... it works in KDE 3.5.10 and I assume trinity (probably 4+ as well) | Jul 20 05:22 |
| msb__ | No. Occasionally it will fail to copy and paste from one program to another. So I just do it again. | Jul 20 05:24 |
| msb__ | I have scripts that load klipper (I use the kde4 version), using qdbus. Very handy sometimes. | Jul 20 05:28 |
| msb__ | Previous versions of X had a program that could load the clipboard, but that went away. | Jul 20 05:29 |
| cubexyz | what? | Jul 20 05:29 |
| cubexyz | xclip? | Jul 20 05:29 |
| msb__ | sounds right but I don't think it works anymore | Jul 20 05:30 |
| msb__ | I can't find the old version. Guess I was peeved and deleted it, silly me. | Jul 20 05:33 |
| cubexyz | xclipboard is still part of the X Window System | Jul 20 05:34 |
| cubexyz | maybe the distro maintainers aren't including it these days | Jul 20 05:35 |
| cubexyz | there's really two clipboards | Jul 20 05:37 |
| msb__ | Anyhow, I have this script called "p" which loads the clipboard with the FQ path of the filename argument (you have to be in the directory the file is in). Then you can go to any other directory and cp or mv the file there. Working in mc this is all done with very few keystrokes. I call it textmode drag'n'drop. Use it many times every day. | Jul 20 05:37 |
| cubexyz | anything you highlight with the mouse should end up in the clipboard | Jul 20 05:38 |
| cubexyz | at least that's how konsole works | Jul 20 05:38 |
| msb__ | But it's too much work to do it with the mouse. I just have to type p alt-Enter with the cursor on the file in mc. Hands never leave the keyboard. No pointing and shooting. | Jul 20 05:40 |
| msb__ | This is in mc in a konsole. I have dozens of those. | Jul 20 05:41 |
| msb__ | Also, highlighting with the mouse wouldn't bring in the file's path. | Jul 20 05:42 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm having trouble visualizing what you're doing | Jul 20 05:45 |
| msb__ | I'm in mc inside of a konsole. I place mc's cursor on the file I want to operate on. I type p <space> <alt-enter> | Jul 20 05:46 |
| msb__ | That invokes the p script with the filename as its argument. | Jul 20 05:47 |
| msb__ | The p script gets the cwd, appends the filename to it, and sends that to another script that uses qdbut to put the FQ filename into the clipboard. | Jul 20 05:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I guess qdbut is a KDE 4 thing | Jul 20 05:50 |
| cubexyz | sounds interesting though | Jul 20 05:51 |
| msb__ | Then I go to some other konsole and type cp (or mv, or diff, etc) middle mouse button and the file is copied or moved, etc. | Jul 20 05:51 |
| msb__ | Opps qdbus, not but | Jul 20 05:51 |
| cubexyz | ah :) | Jul 20 05:51 |
| cubexyz | funny, I've been using KDE 3 a long time, and I just discovered the history search | Jul 20 05:53 |
| msb__ | looks like kde4 klipper's history is invoked when you right-click on its little notifier(?) in the panel | Jul 20 05:55 |
| cubexyz | I just start typing "books" or whatever and everthing that matches that pops up | Jul 20 05:56 |
| cubexyz | kind of neat | Jul 20 05:56 |
| msb__ | Where do you type that? | Jul 20 05:57 |
| cubexyz | you just click the klipper icon and start typing | Jul 20 05:57 |
| cubexyz | with the pointer on the klipper window | Jul 20 05:57 |
| msb__ | Yup, that works. | Jul 20 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for | Jul 20 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4 | Jul 20 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n66tc | Jul 20 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for Kit Kat | Tux Machines | Jul 20 05:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @charles6816 followed @tuxmachines | Jul 20 06:00 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I'll send you the scripts for p and the ones it calls, but you'll probably have to tailor them to whatever systems you want to use them on. | Jul 20 06:00 |
| cubexyz | ok, thanks | Jul 20 06:00 |
| cubexyz | I am curious what you did | Jul 20 06:00 |
| msb__ | I don't have the old version using xclip but it's easy enough to substitute that. | Jul 20 06:01 |
| msb__ | wow, syfy channel is showing Sharktopus vs. Pteracuda, Sharktopus vs. Whalewolf, Piranhaconda, and Dinoshark! | Jul 20 06:06 |
| msb__ | Actually, that should be spelled "Syphy Channel". It also has "professional wrestling". | Jul 20 06:08 |
| cubexyz | uh | Jul 20 06:13 |
| cubexyz | is sharktopus a comedy or something? :) | Jul 20 06:14 |
| msb__ | It produced one good scifi movie many years ago -- Habitat 1997. | Jul 20 06:18 |
| msb__ | I've never seen sharktopus. Maybe it would be best described as a computer-graphics demo. | Jul 20 06:19 |
| cubexyz | did you hear what schestowitz heard from a M$ guy? | Jul 20 06:19 |
| cubexyz | that windows 10 crashes a lot | Jul 20 06:19 |
| msb__ | Wow! Who woulda thunk it! | Jul 20 06:20 |
| msb__ | Anyhow, I have Habitat on a DVD, but it's somewhere in seven huge boxes of them. | Jul 20 06:21 |
| cubexyz | another thing I noticed on a customers computer running win7 | Jul 20 06:22 |
| cubexyz | the GUI appeared to reset itself a lot | Jul 20 06:23 |
| cubexyz | like several times per hour | Jul 20 06:23 |
| cubexyz | it seemed really bad | Jul 20 06:23 |
| cubexyz | Xenix didn't have those problems (based on Unix) | Jul 20 06:24 |
| msb__ | See? GNU/Linux really is much better. Roy wasn | Jul 20 06:24 |
| msb__ | See? GNU/Linux really is much better. Roy wasn't just making that up! | Jul 20 06:25 |
| cubexyz | you can't argue with empirical evidence | Jul 20 06:25 |
| msb__ | After 20 years microshit still doesn't know how to make an OS. | Jul 20 06:26 |
| cubexyz | I thought they had improved with w2k being based on NT which was based on ideas from VMS/Cutler | Jul 20 06:29 |
| cubexyz | but win2k wasn't as good as Linux | Jul 20 06:30 |
| cubexyz | I can't say win7 was good with all the GUI resets | Jul 20 06:31 |
| cubexyz | worse than I thought really | Jul 20 06:32 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: ok, p files coming to you | Jul 20 06:35 |
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| msb__ | Best demo of all time! Hope the person who made it got a job at ILM, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4 | Jul 20 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | What's in the Box? - Test Film 2009 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n6794 ] | Jul 20 06:50 | |
| msb__ | OK here are the p files for everyone! Just put in a good word for me with the Nobel Prize Committee. http://cosmicpenguin.com/pfiles.zip | Jul 20 07:19 |
| msb__ | and the repetitive strain injury foundation | Jul 20 07:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How To Make Counter-Strike: Global Offensive | Jul 20 09:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Run Much Faster On AMD Catalyst For Linux | Jul 20 09:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Em5mMCM87C (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 09:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | How To Make Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Run Much Faster On AMD Catalyst For Linux - Phoronix | Jul 20 09:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #PisiLinux 1.2 is out http://t.co/3U7YdEIeoX | Jul 20 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pisilinux.org) http://t.co/iHSR3iGEF1 | Jul 20 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com) #gnu #linux | Jul 20 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pisilinux.org | İndir | Pisi Linux | Jul 20 09:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #pardus | Jul 20 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Pisi Linux 1.2 is available! | Jul 20 09:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released | Jul 20 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already | Jul 20 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/60AGuZfaZD (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 09:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 09:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update will Bring The Refunds For Purchased Apps Feature, The New Thumnailer And Many Other New Features | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 09:03 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow....' | Jul 20 09:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful Looking | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next Month | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zbVURYYNex (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 20 09:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful Looking JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next Month | GamingOnLinux | Jul 20 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another stable release, #GlusterFS 3.5.5 is | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ready http://t.co/GZGwSBPcaU | Jul 20 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nixpanic.net | Nixpanic's Blog: Another stable release, GlusterFS 3.5.5 is ready | Jul 20 09:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serial content tracker http://t.co/FZG7RTIZH8 | Jul 20 09:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker | Tux Machines | Jul 20 09:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cyJ7TACBby (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zf | Jul 20 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Zk1coDDD3N (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8VpCThlk2b (techrights.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | Techrights | Jul 20 09:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released | Jul 20 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already | Jul 20 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 10:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update will Bring The Refunds For Purchased Apps Feature, The New Thumnailer And Many Other New Features | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 10:37 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 20 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.2-rc3 https://t.co/9j4GZxjvKl | Jul 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lkml.org) http://t.co/kIk1BVwrNw | Jul 20 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 4.2-rc3 | Jul 20 11:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.2 Release Candidate 3 with Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Jul 20 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5rizvUZBzz (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 11:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE - Phoronix | Jul 20 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the | Jul 20 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/aZPMsrh2TH | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the future of phones? https://t.co/KoK1q9MQxN | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpit.com) | Jul 20 11:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? - AndroidPIT | Jul 20 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/whdoNtywxy (www.itproportal.com) | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | proprietary | Jul 20 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | ITProPortal.com | Jul 20 11:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a19 | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Needs Testing http://t.co/JiCm2tnRDz | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a1a | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky | Jul 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serial content tracker http://t.co/gowqlQ1erZ | Jul 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jul 20 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker • The Register | Jul 20 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a1b | Jul 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 11:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with 8 and 9.7 inch screen options | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KAO1uVDK4z (betanews.com) | Jul 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet with 8 and 9.7 inch screen options | Jul 20 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a33 | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available http://t.co/OzvxHM8USo | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently available | Jul 20 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a34 | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/GGS5waeMPw | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer | Jul 20 12:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Different OS http://t.co/s2USKEFySW | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and Different OS - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6afq | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) low | Jul 20 12:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Alphr | Jul 20 12:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - Softpedia | Jul 20 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6awn | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 http://t.co/1v2WDa1LWs | Jul 20 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 | Techrights | Jul 20 13:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSS Leftovers http://t.co/pBz3WJ404G | Jul 20 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 20 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/ujjHwPhmPM | Jul 20 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 20 13:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/q2i8dcMlgU | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 20 13:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/iV9YvIrZiz | Jul 20 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 20 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/WvXVo0PqGe | Jul 20 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 20 16:54 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @hearthstoneR9 favourited 'Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful Gaming Laptop...' | Jul 20 17:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 ‘Ubuntu Edition’ Smartphone Now | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everyone In EU http://t.co/36nC8mZBn8 | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tomshardware.com) | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e2d | Jul 20 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Meizu MX4 'Ubuntu Edition' Smartphone Now Everyone In EU | Jul 20 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “Meizu and Canonical chose to bring the MX4 | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition in Europe in a different way.” | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hlEPfcNcJA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e2e | Jul 20 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition Is Now Available for Purchase Freely in Europe - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e65 | Jul 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2G | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e52 | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PLUMgrid Joins @LinuxFoundation as Gold Member | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5pBKWhxOfj (news.sys-con.com) | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e95 | Jul 20 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sys-con.com | PLUMgrid Joins Linux Foundation as Gold Member | news.sys-con.com | Jul 20 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uFm735UcRm (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 20 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | ZDNet | Jul 20 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e96 | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/GhWM8h5Nfi | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e98 | Jul 20 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $109.99 http://t.co/G77DqRH9AS | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edl | Jul 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ql62x0Enw5 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edm | Jul 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $109.99 http://t.co/VsnN9OFdXW (www.cnet.com) | Jul 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 - CNET | Jul 20 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edn | Jul 20 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: is | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by this the future of phones? | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @stanmobitech http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (via @tuxmachines) | Jul 20 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f06 | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JeckFMgrdL (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f07 | Jul 20 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux - Phoronix | Jul 20 18:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/ocMtcF1QSy | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4r | Jul 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/ISetn1PGVx | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4s | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tbIXXhzSlw (www.linux.com) | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4u | Jul 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Linux.com | Jul 20 18:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/ORvk61eQev | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (neptuneos.com) | Jul 20 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neptuneos.com | Neptune 4.4 Release - Neptune EN | Jul 20 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghf | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZLTvXTp1KU (kdenlive.org) | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Kdenlive 15.08 will be released with KDE | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08." | Jul 20 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org | Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | Kdenlive | Jul 20 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghg | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/crAKSiID0B (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghj | Jul 20 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/oIvE8C4Tm7 | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neptune 4.4 Release | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6glh | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapper http://t.co/r2hUUTQhs5 | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper - Phoronix | Jul 20 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6gli | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6glj | Jul 20 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux http://t.co/4k6WMYvneH | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h1y | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MWpn60wJzD (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h21 | Jul 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Linux Journal | Jul 20 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapper http://t.co/KqZkXfhaqk | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h22 | Jul 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper | Tux Machines | Jul 20 21:30 | |
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| *[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots -- please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | Jul 20 21:52 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theallium.com/engineering/computer-programming-to-be-officially-renamed-googling-stackoverflow/ | Jul 20 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theallium.com | Computer Programming To Be Officially Renamed "Googling Stackoverflow" - The Allium [ http://ur1.ca/n6hdn ] | Jul 20 22:00 | |
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| cubexyz | this is old but worth a look: | Jul 20 22:41 |
| cubexyz | http://www.osnews.com/story/15235/Investigating-the-Plan-9-Operating-System/ | Jul 20 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osnews.com | Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System [ http://ur1.ca/n6ht5 ] | Jul 20 22:41 | |
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| MinceR | https://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ | Jul 20 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhartikk.github.io | ArnoldC | Jul 20 23:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoDPI/status/623251004977451008 | Jul 20 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NoDPI: @schestowitz The only weapon you have is your wallet. Govt believe you have choice, and if you choose not to use it, they will not regulate. | Jul 20 23:11 | |
| cubexyz | porting my hexeditor to quasijarus... should be interesting | Jul 20 23:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoDPI/status/623251289837846528 | Jul 20 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NoDPI: @schestowitz ... sadly. Consequently... BT can get away with screwing their customers over and don't much care about complaints. | Jul 20 23:11 | |
| cubexyz | since the original program was written for Xenix | Jul 20 23:11 |
| cubexyz | no free-nets in UK? | Jul 20 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious | Jul 20 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android PC http://t.co/inV2fec6Iy | Jul 20 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6i6p | Jul 20 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious Android PC | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux without Flash: User Tips | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9CSsqxJURE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6i6r | Jul 20 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux without Flash: User Tips | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | copyright violation http://t.co/1en3EFJcxp | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6i6w | Jul 20 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Democratizing Open Source Technology to Empower | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Innovators http://t.co/ZGGC8V2bXC | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6i71 | Jul 20 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Democratizing Open Source Technology to Empower Innovators | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Bears Open Source Gifts From China | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VdKfkCaxYk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Bears Open Source Gifts From China | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Jul 20 23:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DragonFlyBSD Finally Has Working Valley View / | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bay Trail Graphics Support | Jul 20 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/TLq52tzFJd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DragonFlyBSD Finally Has Working Valley View / Bay Trail Graphics Support | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:13 | |
| cubexyz | ah now I remember... quasijarus doesn't have termio | Jul 20 23:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/623254370914844672 | Jul 20 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Ted Stevens called 'em tubes. Even more stupid than pipes! | Jul 20 23:15 | |
| schestowitz | is he on tubes yet? | Jul 20 23:15 |
| cubexyz | it's not a big truck :) | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/623255018288861184 | Jul 20 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I think 6 feet under | Jul 20 23:17 | |
| cubexyz | died in Aug 2010 | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I think not | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | the former topic | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know he died | Jul 20 23:17 |
| cubexyz | yeah in a plane crash | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | well, good riddance, given his other policies | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | one of those 'extremist' politicians | Jul 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall some of his other controversial stances | Jul 20 23:18 |
| cubexyz | it seems I'm still stuck in sysv land | Jul 20 23:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Jul 20 23:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:19 | |
| cubexyz | my previous work on Xenix was sysv style programming | Jul 20 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Jul 20 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ILYa6CVhpE (www.tuxmachines.org) RT | Jul 20 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines | Jul 20 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android | Jul 20 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SivVLPqPVo (www.tomsguide.com) | Jul 20 23:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android - Tom's Guide | Jul 20 23:19 | |
| cubexyz | Linux is basically sysv at least to me | Jul 20 23:20 |
| cubexyz | termio is from sysv | Jul 20 23:20 |
| cubexyz | you can't just ignore all that | Jul 20 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A secret option in your Android phone can help | Jul 20 23:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | make it work faster http://t.co/k8uYq0mz1N | Jul 20 23:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (uk.businessinsider.com) | Jul 20 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Speed up your Android smartphone - Business Insider | Jul 20 23:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious | Jul 20 23:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android PC http://t.co/tRPmgljleF | Jul 20 23:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 20 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious Android PC · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 20 23:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux without Flash: User Tips | Jul 20 23:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RhWIjeIATY (www.datamation.com) | Jul 20 23:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Linux without Flash: User Tips - Datamation | Jul 20 23:22 | |
| MinceR | it's more like a mix of sysv, bsd and posix :) | Jul 20 23:24 |
| cubexyz | termios is (evidently) identical to struct termio use by SVR4 | Jul 20 23:26 |
| cubexyz | but the types are different | Jul 20 23:26 |
| MinceR | ps even lets you mix sysv-style and bsd-style parameters | Jul 20 23:26 |
| cubexyz | if I had access to a motif based hexediter that would help speed things up | Jul 20 23:27 |
| cubexyz | then port to openbsd would be easy | Jul 20 23:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/623257443854872576 | Jul 20 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Well .. any OS without #Adobe #Flash is super easy . . one step @schestowitz 1) Don't fucking install flash! | Jul 20 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | indeed, some come with it already | Jul 20 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a | Jul 20 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | copyright violation http://t.co/49LDEwWU1t | Jul 20 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mjg59.dreamwidth.org) | Jul 20 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Jul 20 23:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want...' | Jul 20 23:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/623258515453259776 | Jul 20 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz What's putting my off the iPhone is insane change so can't upload pics 👎🏼 | Jul 20 23:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/623258899299344385 | Jul 20 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Yah I have indeed seen people with (mostly windows) with weird vendor specific software that includes flash, terrible practice @schestowitz | Jul 20 23:32 | |
| schestowitz | I hope my distro stops it | Jul 20 23:32 |
| cubexyz | you can't really count on any distro too much | Jul 20 23:33 |
| MinceR | especially not on the ones that use systemd by default | Jul 20 23:34 |
| cubexyz | I'm building up a list of ncurses programs and other stuff I'd like to see in a distro | Jul 20 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a | Jul 20 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by copyright violation http://t.co/1en3EFJcxp | Jul 20 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 23:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Tux Machines | Jul 20 23:45 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/best-terminal-applications-for-linux-unix-macosx/ | Jul 20 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | 15 Greatest Open Source Terminal Applications Of 2012 [ http://ur1.ca/c0r8m ] | Jul 20 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Jul 20 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rQ2wZUtmvT | Jul 20 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk) | Jul 20 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk | Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Jul 20 23:45 | |
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| cubexyz | there's on continuity with distros | Jul 20 23:51 |
| cubexyz | there's no continuity with distros | Jul 20 23:52 |
| cubexyz | if you use something old like fc1 or openbsd 4.7 your repos have stopped working | Jul 20 23:52 |
| cubexyz | I'd like to make a distro where that doesn't happen | Jul 20 23:53 |
| cubexyz | of course you can go tarball and fix stuff yourself | Jul 20 23:54 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge can crap out | Jul 20 23:54 |
| MinceR | sourceforge is unreliable | Jul 20 23:54 |
| MinceR | they put malware in installers | Jul 20 23:54 |
| MinceR | also, their site is down nowadays | Jul 20 23:55 |
| cubexyz | yeah that's kind of why I'm gathering up tarballs and archiving them | Jul 20 23:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plugins, plugins, plugins – or how KDE | Jul 20 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Frameworks learned to Wayland | Jul 20 23:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/surlydev/status/623267499048570880 | Jul 21 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@surlydev: @schestowitz And companies call employees "human resources". | Jul 21 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | Oh, yes... | Jul 21 00:13 |
| cubexyz | msb__, if you like vi you might want to check out vifm | Jul 21 00:15 |
| cubexyz | it's a vi file manager | Jul 21 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE/Qt http://t.co/xWzM7mbwFG | Jul 21 00:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE/Qt | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says | Jul 21 00:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Jul 21 00:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes - The New Stack | Jul 21 00:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A solid experience with SolydXK | Jul 21 00:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Jul 21 00:19 | |
| cubexyz | I find if you really learn about configure and it's options then dealing with programs at the tarball level isn't too bad | Jul 21 00:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/surlydev/status/623270467898613760 | Jul 21 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@surlydev: @schestowitz I despise the term HR. It makes one feel as valued as a stapler. | Jul 21 00:20 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I have never used vi. I use the editor in mc. | Jul 21 00:20 |
| schestowitz | vi is useful sometimes | Jul 21 00:21 |
| schestowitz | I prefer nanp | Jul 21 00:21 |
| schestowitz | nano | Jul 21 00:21 |
| cubexyz | O_o | Jul 21 00:21 |
| schestowitz | far more intutive | Jul 21 00:21 |
| schestowitz | less things to memorise | Jul 21 00:21 |
| MinceR | "The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that it's all learned." | Jul 21 00:24 |
| cubexyz | vifm has some similarities to midnight commander | Jul 21 00:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Telegram in Fedora | Jul 21 00:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Aspyr Media Is Launching A New Linux Game | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomorrow http://t.co/3QRyKkFash | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 21 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Aspyr Media Is Launching A New Linux Game Tomorrow - Phoronix | Jul 21 00:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A solid experience with SolydXK | Jul 21 00:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A solid experience with SolydXK | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:37 | |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, you might find gvim more platable compared to vim or vi | Jul 21 00:40 |
| cubexyz | e.g. you can make the font bigger | Jul 21 00:41 |
| MinceR | and you have a menu and a toolbar | Jul 21 00:42 |
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| cubexyz | I do use kedit sometimes | Jul 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/623276428512116736 | Jul 21 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz Agreed but everyone will pay for a macdonalds ewww and this carrys liberty on the label! #upsideDownWorld | Jul 21 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | Only fools those who are lost causes | Jul 21 00:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says | Jul 21 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Jul 21 01:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/qPeDTUpCLo | Jul 21 01:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/l3eS3TGRcL | Jul 21 01:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/zA8HWZpxXc | Jul 21 01:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation Additions and Phoronix Catchup | Jul 21 01:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Additions and Phoronix Catchup | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:25 | |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: I tried nano, but it seems less intuitive than the mc editor. Since I already use mc as my filemanager, the good integration of its editor is helpful. | Jul 21 02:06 |
| msb__ | The only thing I miss is being able to invoke a program (e.g. in C) upon the selected text from within the editor. Now I have to write out the selection to the edit buffer file (one keystroke), run the program (e.g. 3 keystrokes), delete the selection (one keystroke), and read back the modified edit buffer file (one keystroke). | Jul 21 02:09 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I remember what the difference is | Jul 21 02:11 |
| oiaohm | nano makes it really fast to copy and duplicate lines. | Jul 21 02:11 |
| oiaohm | mcedit is better with mouse | Jul 21 02:11 |
| MinceR | vim makes it fast too | Jul 21 02:13 |
| msb__ | F3 selects words, lines, or columns | Jul 21 02:13 |
| MinceR | and gvim is even better with mouse :> | Jul 21 02:13 |
| oiaohm | msb__: Ctrl-K the Cut Text in nano default is cut a complete line | Jul 21 02:13 |
| MinceR | in vim, cut a line is dd | Jul 21 02:13 |
| msb__ | F5 copies selection to cursor, F6 moves selection to cursor. | Jul 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have dyslexia so remember key commands that at not displayed on screen is problemmatic. | Jul 21 02:14 |
| msb__ | what could be faster? Selection is shown in reverse video. | Jul 21 02:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i see | Jul 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | vim and emacs don't get along with me. | Jul 21 02:15 |
| oiaohm | nano and mcedit are workable. | Jul 21 02:15 |
| msb__ | vim is too primitive and emacs too complicated for me. | Jul 21 02:17 |
| oiaohm | msb__: not really vim can do everything emacs can. | Jul 21 02:17 |
| oiaohm | But its how many hoops are you willing to jump through to get there. | Jul 21 02:18 |
| msb__ | right | Jul 21 02:18 |
| oiaohm | and some things vim does simplely are extreamly hard in emacs | Jul 21 02:18 |
| msb__ | "Emacs is a great operating system. All it needs is a good editor." | Jul 21 02:18 |
| oiaohm | Main reason I don't use either I screw up the keyboard codes all the time. | Jul 21 02:18 |
| MinceR | vim is many things, 'primitive' is not one of those things | Jul 21 02:18 |
| MinceR | and there's a good editor for emacs, it's called "evil" | Jul 21 02:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: does it have on screen display of the commands in a usable memu. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| oiaohm | If so I will look at it. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| MinceR | no, but you can display a cheat-sheet beside it :) | Jul 21 02:20 |
| cubexyz | there's gvim and kvim | Jul 21 02:20 |
| msb__ | I meant the UI of vim seems primitive to me. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of kvim, only yzis (or what it was) | Jul 21 02:20 |
| MinceR | i think the UI is pretty good -- you have easy-to-remember and easy-to-type commands and you have a command line | Jul 21 02:21 |
| oiaohm | When I am stuck on terminal its nano or mcedit for me. | Jul 21 02:21 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for nvim to get a GUI | Jul 21 02:21 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, maybe I'm wrong about kvim | Jul 21 02:22 |
| cubexyz | I thought it existed | Jul 21 02:22 |
| MinceR | ("evil" is a vi emulation mode that isn't designed to convert you to using emacs without it, unlike viper) | Jul 21 02:22 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of people out there like me who just simple cannot cope with the idea of a command line driven editor. | Jul 21 02:22 |
| cubexyz | so what did you use in the 1980s? | Jul 21 02:22 |
| MinceR | well, it's not exactly "driver" by it but it's there when you need it | Jul 21 02:22 |
| MinceR | s/ver/ven/ | Jul 21 02:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: pico | Jul 21 02:23 |
| oiaohm | pico was the editor out of the email package called pine and nano is a reimplementation of it. | Jul 21 02:23 |
| MinceR | i used pico or nano when i was setting up gentoo | Jul 21 02:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes pico and nano that identical unless you remember the command you run you cannot tell the difference. | Jul 21 02:24 |
| msb__ | In mc, when you return to a previously edited file, the cursor goes to the same place you left it last time. Do those other editors do that? | Jul 21 02:24 |
| MinceR | vim can be set up to do that, i have | Jul 21 02:24 |
| cubexyz | I see now kvim existed but it was orphaned | Jul 21 02:25 |
| msb__ | My favorite editor was BRIEF in PCDOS. There's a Linux version for about $150. | Jul 21 02:26 |
| oiaohm | msb__: pico and nano both support +100 for move from start of file down 100 lines and so on. By default nano and pico just go to start. | Jul 21 02:26 |
| oiaohm | Mind you both nano and pico are design to operate without needing a configuration file. | Jul 21 02:27 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: But I want the cursor to go where I left it last time. | Jul 21 02:27 |
| MinceR | actually it's not set up here, but i could find the way to set it up | Jul 21 02:28 |
| cubexyz | found kvim :) | Jul 21 02:28 |
| cubexyz | looks like 2003 era | Jul 21 02:28 |
| MinceR | http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Restore_cursor_to_file_position_in_previous_editing_session | Jul 21 02:28 |
| msb__ | MinceR: But not in vim. Don't like vim. | Jul 21 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vim.wikia.com | Restore cursor to file position in previous editing session - Vim Tips Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/n6juz ] | Jul 21 02:28 | |
| cubexyz | how far back does pico go? | Jul 21 02:29 |
| msb__ | my mceditor has a 1024 line filepos file. | Jul 21 02:30 |
| MinceR | as far as pine does, i think | Jul 21 02:30 |
| cubexyz | weird kvim has all this gtk stuff in it | Jul 21 02:31 |
| cubexyz | on Xenix and Venix and old BSD it was always vi I used | Jul 21 02:31 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I knew there was a difference. +line,column is support by nano command line where mcedit only supports going to a line number. | Jul 21 02:32 |
| cubexyz | in the IBM mainframe world I used XEDIT | Jul 21 02:32 |
| oiaohm | msb__: yes nano does not remember where you were last time. But reading a gcc error with error on X line number X column nano is great. | Jul 21 02:32 |
| cubexyz | of course on really old Unix you had ed | Jul 21 02:32 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: mcedit returns to the same line and character as it was last on. | Jul 21 02:33 |
| MinceR | ed is the standard text editor. | Jul 21 02:33 |
| MinceR | http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html | Jul 21 02:33 |
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| oiaohm | msb__: it returns to the last position it was on because it writing into a log file. | Jul 21 02:34 |
| oiaohm | msb__: stuff like embeded devices mcedit is not exactly the best. | Jul 21 02:34 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: Correct ~/.mc/filepos | Jul 21 02:34 |
| oiaohm | Depending on what I am working depends if I am nano or mcedit | Jul 21 02:35 |
| oiaohm | Both have their place. | Jul 21 02:35 |
| oiaohm | Yes nano has a mouse mode and it suxs | Jul 21 02:38 |
| cubexyz | what Unixes had pico, I can't recall seeing that | Jul 21 02:38 |
| MinceR | the ones that have pine, presumably | Jul 21 02:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: or the ones you added pine on to. | Jul 21 02:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct pine is the 90s | Jul 21 02:44 |
| oiaohm | I cannot remember exactly what I used in the 80s | Jul 21 02:44 |
| oiaohm | Possiblely something really horible like MS dos edit | Jul 21 02:45 |
| cubexyz | the BSD world was vi pretty far back | Jul 21 02:45 |
| oiaohm | freebsd also has ee | Jul 21 02:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: going way back there have been altertives to using vi | Jul 21 02:47 |
| oiaohm | Using vi or emacs I need a cheat sheet or I am completely screwed. | Jul 21 02:48 |
| cubexyz | sure, vi was originally considered to be a memory pig | Jul 21 02:48 |
| cubexyz | Thompson said he preferred ed | Jul 21 02:48 |
| oiaohm | I have done horibles like echo test >> file because the system only had vi and I could not remember how to use it. | Jul 21 02:49 |
| cubexyz | if I run 32v for vax780 it doesn't have vi | Jul 21 02:49 |
| cubexyz | 32v basically being the v7 port to Vax 11/780 | Jul 21 02:49 |
| cubexyz | I guess BSD 2.0 was the first to use vi | Jul 21 02:50 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure what the heck kvim is now that I've looked at it | Jul 21 02:51 |
| cubexyz | ugh, it's just a version of gvim | Jul 21 02:52 |
| cubexyz | I've been tricked | Jul 21 02:52 |
| oiaohm | ne I can kinda get along with as long as I remember f1 open memu | Jul 21 02:52 |
| cubexyz | in fact in old BSD vi was a pain in the butt | Jul 21 02:55 |
| oiaohm | ee under bsd is remember to press esc to display menu | Jul 21 02:55 |
| cubexyz | the hardware support was poor | Jul 21 02:55 |
| cubexyz | so I ended up using ed | Jul 21 02:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have got very good at find text editors with memus. | Jul 21 02:55 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that's good :) | Jul 21 02:56 |
| cubexyz | you can help find kvim :) | Jul 21 02:56 |
| MinceR | gvim has a menu :> | Jul 21 02:56 |
| cubexyz | kate had some sort of vim mode | Jul 21 02:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I just tried it I remembered why I hated it. | Jul 21 02:57 |
| cubexyz | not sure if it's still around | Jul 21 02:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Screw having modes as well. | Jul 21 02:58 |
| oiaohm | I am editing a file I just want to edit it. | Jul 21 02:58 |
| MinceR | every text editor has modes, it's just that many of them aren't honest about it | Jul 21 02:58 |
| oiaohm | The ones I like just always return to insert mode. MinceR | Jul 21 02:58 |
| cubexyz | seems like kvim and Yzis are orphaned | Jul 21 02:58 |
| MinceR | input will be processed differently if you have overstrike instead of insert, or if you have text selected, or if you're in the menu, or if you're entering the name of the file to save | Jul 21 02:58 |
| MinceR | evim uses insert mode by default | Jul 21 02:59 |
| cubexyz | what is evim? | Jul 21 03:02 |
| MinceR | "easy" vim | Jul 21 03:02 |
| MinceR | it ships with vim | Jul 21 03:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: at long last a vim I can get along with. | Jul 21 03:02 |
| cubexyz | oh | Jul 21 03:02 |
| MinceR | it also apparently doesn't even let you go to normal mode | Jul 21 03:02 |
| MinceR | it probably requires X | Jul 21 03:02 |
| cubexyz | looks just like gvim | Jul 21 03:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it looks the same true. But it behaves differently. | Jul 21 03:03 |
| cubexyz | same toolkit though right? | Jul 21 03:03 |
| MinceR | i don't know if it lets you access all of the functionality of vim, though | Jul 21 03:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's just a symlink to vim.gtk | Jul 21 03:04 |
| oiaohm | Being limited to X11 is a problem. | Jul 21 03:04 |
| MinceR | like gvim | Jul 21 03:04 |
| oiaohm | But something like evim built with ncurses would be good. | Jul 21 03:04 |
| MinceR | and even vim | Jul 21 03:04 |
| MinceR | so it just decides how to work based on the command name | Jul 21 03:04 |
| cubexyz | I thought I was being clever writing my own hex editor | Jul 21 03:04 |
| cubexyz | but then termios vs termio :) | Jul 21 03:05 |
| cubexyz | damn programmers always have to do things different | Jul 21 03:05 |
| MinceR | evim would probably be unusable without the menu, which only works with X11 | Jul 21 03:05 |
| cubexyz | doesn't gvim revert to regular vim without X? | Jul 21 03:06 |
| MinceR | it probably does | Jul 21 03:06 |
| MinceR | [mincer@darkstar:pts/17:/home/mincer]% DISPLAY="" evim | Jul 21 03:07 |
| MinceR | E233: cannot open display | Jul 21 03:07 |
| oiaohm | evim can switch out of insert mode. MinceR | Jul 21 03:07 |
| oiaohm | and use everything gvim can but its just not simple. | Jul 21 03:07 |
| MinceR | at this point, gvim waits for enter and starts as vim, evim quits | Jul 21 03:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 21 03:07 |
| cubexyz | you aren't actually running Darkstar Linux though right? :) | Jul 21 03:07 |
| MinceR | oh, i didn't look hard enough | Jul 21 03:08 |
| MinceR | no | Jul 21 03:08 |
| MinceR | my ThinkPad X220i Tablet is called darkstar | Jul 21 03:08 |
| MinceR | it's running crunchbang still | Jul 21 03:08 |
| oiaohm | To switch out of insert mode is under edit->global settings->toggle insert mode | Jul 21 03:08 |
| MinceR | yeah, i noticed this time | Jul 21 03:08 |
| oiaohm | But evim is how I want a editor starting. | Jul 21 03:08 |
| cubexyz | all I wanted was to try kvim, not enter the grand labyrinth of lost text editors | Jul 21 03:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 03:09 |
| oiaohm | I don't want to have to think about modes. | Jul 21 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Unless I want do something needing modes. | Jul 21 03:09 |
| MinceR | i think all visual editors have modes | Jul 21 03:09 |
| MinceR | maybe line-based ones don't | Jul 21 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Note the that I don't want to think about it. | Jul 21 03:09 |
| cubexyz | no, line editors have modes too | Jul 21 03:10 |
| oiaohm | So it may have modes but todo a general edit I don't want to have to switch modes todo it. | Jul 21 03:10 |
| cubexyz | you're in insert mode, or not | Jul 21 03:10 |
| MinceR | i could conceive of a line editor that doesn't have modes, but i'm not sure if one actually exists | Jul 21 03:10 |
| MinceR | i've never used any of them | Jul 21 03:10 |
| oiaohm | ed under dos did not have modes and it was absolutely horible | Jul 21 03:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 21 03:10 |
| MinceR | edlin? | Jul 21 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep edlin | Jul 21 03:11 |
| MinceR | even edlin has modes apparently -- ^C stops inserting lines | Jul 21 03:11 |
| cubexyz | you have to be able to enter commands :) | Jul 21 03:11 |
| MinceR | if we had one that doesn't let you just keep adding lines but would have to use a command for each line, that could be arguably modeless | Jul 21 03:12 |
| cubexyz | otherwise everything you type would be added text | Jul 21 03:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really early version of edlin only allowed adding 1 line at a time. | Jul 21 03:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 21 03:12 |
| oiaohm | no ^C feature. | Jul 21 03:12 |
| oiaohm | Yes truly horible, | Jul 21 03:12 |
| MinceR | i guess that was the truly modeless editor, then | Jul 21 03:12 |
| cubexyz | cat would be the closest thing to a modeless editor | Jul 21 03:13 |
| oiaohm | only modeless editor that still alive is echo test >> file. | Jul 21 03:13 |
| oiaohm | And it not a great editor. | Jul 21 03:13 |
| cubexyz | not much of an 'editor' though :) | Jul 21 03:13 |
| MinceR | hm, TECO might be it | Jul 21 03:14 |
| MinceR | but it's too late for me to try and understand it :) | Jul 21 03:14 |
| oiaohm | http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TecoEditor | Jul 21 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-c2.com | Teco Editor | Jul 21 03:16 | |
| oiaohm | Really teco is a nightmare. | Jul 21 03:16 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 21 03:16 |
| oiaohm | I like how its called a editor when its an extreamly strange programming language | Jul 21 03:17 |
| cubexyz | well PDP-1 had TECO | Jul 21 03:17 |
| cubexyz | so you know, you have to take the limitations of the era into account | Jul 21 03:17 |
| oiaohm | Yes teco makes emacs seams safe | Jul 21 03:17 |
| cubexyz | basically a program that predates the PDP-4 | Jul 21 03:18 |
| oiaohm | Please note someone made a video editor that uses teco commands. | Jul 21 03:19 |
| cubexyz | the era of 80-pass Fortran compilers | Jul 21 03:19 |
| cubexyz | everything was painful in those days | Jul 21 03:19 |
| cubexyz | sorry 63 pass fortran compiler :) | Jul 21 03:21 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/rhaberkorn/videoteco-fork | Jul 21 03:21 |
| cubexyz | or something like that | Jul 21 03:21 |
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| oiaohm | I did forgot a modeless editor. sed | Jul 21 03:21 |
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| cubexyz | the cool thing these days is, people can run a ton of different things | Jul 21 03:41 |
| cubexyz | I can run DMS if I want | Jul 21 03:42 |
| oiaohm | The hard reality is sysvinit and a lot of the script based init systems had to die. | Jul 21 03:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is nothing that worked was really ready. | Jul 21 03:43 |
| oiaohm | Without modification my debian system running systemd starts all bar KDM. KDM due to still being sysvinit I have to put a few extra in so it starts in the right place. | Jul 21 03:44 |
| oiaohm | This is down from 12 modifications when systemd first released to 1 now. | Jul 21 03:45 |
| cubexyz | but doesn't openrc and upstart use scripts also? | Jul 21 03:47 |
| oiaohm | Of course the system I am on disobeyed all the systemd install instructions. / and /usr and /usr/local are different partitions /var /home /tmp /opt are also different partitions. | Jul 21 03:47 |
| oiaohm | openrc and upstart both have wrapper programs around the outside of the scripts. | Jul 21 03:48 |
| oiaohm | That is how come they can track services. | Jul 21 03:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: script based init is a really small init system with almost all the logic for service tracking attempted to be done by script. | Jul 21 03:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that just simply does not work. | Jul 21 03:49 |
| cubexyz | systemd is still crap | Jul 21 04:00 |
| cubexyz | and all the bsd servers don't use it | Jul 21 04:00 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the plan9 people have their own init as well | Jul 21 04:00 |
| cubexyz | let people choice the init system they like | Jul 21 04:02 |
| cubexyz | s/choice/choose/ | Jul 21 04:02 |
| cubexyz | as for the people who aren't even running a server... well | Jul 21 04:03 |
| cubexyz | as long as it starts up and works that's all they care about | Jul 21 04:04 |
| cubexyz | kick out of X into init 1 maybe | Jul 21 04:05 |
| cubexyz | I'm still learning stuff about kdm 3.X | Jul 21 04:09 |
| cubexyz | so after 12 years I still don't know all about it | Jul 21 04:09 |
| cubexyz | so before folks even learn about the old stuff the new stuff comes along | Jul 21 04:10 |
| cubexyz | I'd love to see if the systemd folks are getting _years_ uptime like the BSD folks | Jul 21 04:12 |
| cubexyz | I bet they aren't | Jul 21 04:12 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: years of uptime was not an option remaining on sysvinit | Jul 21 04:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: BSD and plan9 init system was in fact designed to match the OS kernel under it. | Jul 21 04:27 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: choice of init system is 1 thing. The fact the choices of init for Linux have not matched the kernel have not really been real choice. | Jul 21 04:28 |
| oiaohm | Items like needrestart to restart services running out of date libraries need proper service tracking. | Jul 21 04:30 |
| oiaohm | That is why years of uptime with most of the existing Linux init systems were not possible. | Jul 21 04:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I will give you that systemd might not be the best choice. The reality is something had to change. | Jul 21 04:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the kdm issue I have with systemd is starting it before it started logind and other items kdm needs so of course it crashes. | Jul 21 04:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: bad point it crashes using a method that appears to be still running. | Jul 21 04:33 |
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| oiaohm | That is when cgrouping is great or everytime that happens you would have a process leak. | Jul 21 04:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: systemd explained why when I was under normal sysvinit at times restart kdm you would have it go vt7 then vt8 then vt9....... | Jul 21 04:35 |
| cubexyz | did you check /var/log/kdm.log ? | Jul 21 04:58 |
| cubexyz | I think I saw a few undefined symbol errors | Jul 21 04:59 |
| cubexyz | might even be why the text console messes up | Jul 21 05:02 |
| cubexyz | I never bothered to look into it, but maybe tonight I can figure it out | Jul 21 05:03 |
| cubexyz | oh I had this other issue for a long time... | Jul 21 05:09 |
| cubexyz | can't use page up/page down keys when using vi with ssh | Jul 21 05:10 |
| cubexyz | also I can't recall any X errors when using the vesa driver on openbsd | Jul 21 05:11 |
| cubexyz | probably the most stable X system I've ever run | Jul 21 05:11 |
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| r_schestowitz | > Roy, | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > on Sunday afternoon I noticed one or two ads "ControlRisks" on an innocent web page ( www.phonostar.de - as far as I remember). I then cleared all cookies in my Firefox (using on OpenSuse Tumbleweed). | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I cannot remember anymore, whether it was really Control Risks Group (CRG), but I think, it was. | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > Any idea, if I should enter into "panic mode", or better calm down, because they are buying such ads now and then ??? | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I am writing this now on a different, quasi air-gapped computer, and using Tails, which I trust. | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Control Risks Group (CRG) has no reason to openly advertise. They'd get clients through other routes, and not even disclsoure who they work for. Their name, Control Risks, is so generic, that they are very hard to google. | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | I do often wonder how I can find out who works for them and their professional background. Even LinkedIn wouldn't reveal "Employer" such as GCHQ, so you must go by project names etc. Like the ICWatch thing, now hosted on Wikileaks (following death threats)... | Jul 21 11:50 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368110 | Jul 21 11:51 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Where is the private joke ?" | Jul 21 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Speed up your Android smartphone - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/n6pha ] | Jul 21 11:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Medo4Gaza/status/623443944865710084 | Jul 21 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Medo4Gaza: @schestowitz Help make it 4 doctor in #Gaza to reach #Germany & be Surgeon Gaza needs http://t.co/rmk8OLSWyN #Donate #RT #SurgeonToBe | Jul 21 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiegogo.com | Train a New Gazan Surgeon in Germany for Gaza | Indiegogo | Jul 21 11:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu | Jul 21 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.10 http://t.co/Z09bCVEgAT | Jul 21 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 12:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu 15.10 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 of the best soccer (most call it football) | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | apps for Android smartphones and tablets | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/76CiOWT6Al (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 21 12:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the best soccer (most call it football) apps for Android smartphones and tablets | Jul 21 12:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 20 best new Android apps and games this week | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G3OSZQssQV (www.theguardian.com) | Jul 21 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | 20 best new Android apps and games this week | Technology | The Guardian | Jul 21 12:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0, | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new evidence shows http://t.co/NXr3EyWYk0 | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 21 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0, new evidence shows | Jul 21 12:12 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: found my kdm issue its annoying starting at the wrong point to Nvidia driver interface registration. Turns out the log files of X11 and KDM say nothing useful. | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony starts software beta for a refreshed take | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Android http://t.co/7FGvEBzT43 | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidguys.com) | Jul 21 12:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidguys.com | Sony starts software beta for a refreshed take on Android | Jul 21 12:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Android Tablets from Samsung | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Sp124D6fRi (www.wired.com) | Jul 21 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | New Android Tablets from Samsung | WIRED | Jul 21 12:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo's | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | best games http://t.co/ysj2Q3OtQg | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.engadget.com) | Jul 21 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo's best games | Jul 21 12:24 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ZeldaWiiUNews/status/623454033659994112 | Jul 21 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ZeldaWiiUNews: <3 https://t.co/7qlnq8RAqX | Jul 21 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If #Nintendo ever makes an #Android smartphone, it should look like this http://t.co/Xiiay36Tuk #linux | Jul 21 12:26 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368303 | Jul 21 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With arrogant grin, #patent lawyers work to derail #patents reform http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/413928/Patent/Three+Things+You+Need+To+Know+About+The+Latest+Patent+Reform+Legislation http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/413936/Patent/Has+the+war+on+patent+trolls+caused+collateral+damage" title="Has The War On Patent Trolls Caused Collateral Damage? | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mondaq.com | Three Things You Need To Know About The Latest Patent Reform Legislation - Intellectual Property - United States [ http://ur1.ca/n6q2m ] | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mondaq.com | Has The War On Patent Trolls Caused Collateral Damage? - Intellectual Property - United States [ http://ur1.ca/n6q2n ] | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367713 | Jul 21 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "800 year anniversary of Magna Carta last month - I wonder how I missed all the celebrations?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367398 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “you know you have rights and then you're told they don't exist because of national security” https://www.freemattdehart.com/ @PaulJDeHart @Leann02 | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Magna Carta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n6h6s ] | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/21/us-toshiba-accounting-stocks-idUSKCN0PV0B620150721 | Jul 21 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Toshiba CEO quits over accounting scandal | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/n6q7e ] | Jul 21 12:59 | |
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| __martin__ | https://medium.com/expost-magazine/i-worked-at-hackingteam-my-emails-were-leaked-to-wikileaks-and-i-m-ok-with-that-f8f28b0584fe | Jul 21 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com | I worked at #HackingTeam, my emails were leaked to WikiLeaks and I’m ok with that — expost magazine — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/n6rcp ] | Jul 21 14:49 | |
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| msb__ | Great speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM | Jul 21 15:34 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DisquietedMuse/status/623475314514112512 | Jul 21 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DisquietedMuse: Totally agree @schestowitz but isn't the secret sauce layered security & apps within? Push for institutions to widely revert to #Linux ??? | Jul 21 17:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | choosing Windows is choosing something which is known, by intention, to be insecure. GNU/Linux not perfect, but aspiring to be secure | Jul 21 17:14 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369728 | Jul 21 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #games "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feeling-angry-hatred-looks-like-it-will-come-to-linux.5690 #gnu #linux | Jul 21 17:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Can i shoot politicians like G.Bush (Junior and Senior) in this game? if not - i am not gonna buy it. :-p" | Jul 21 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/n6suv ] | Jul 21 17:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Going to skip this one, methinks." | Jul 21 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Can only shoot the powerless... and Noriega | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369783 | Jul 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Norway updates list of IT procurement templates https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/144647 don't put brand names there, bar proprietary malware | Jul 21 17:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jul 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Norway updates list of IT procurement templates | Joinup | Jul 21 17:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | i don t understand the problem. | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | bar proprietary malware ? | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | Bar them from procuring proprietary software with back doors, i.e. malware | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369476 | Jul 21 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 provides the latest and greatest back doors. And folks from #microsoft say it's not even stable and nowhere near ready. | Jul 21 17:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Just curious. Why do some people call it “Vista8” or “Vista10”? Is the kernel used in 8 and 10 the same as in Vista, and different from XP and 98, for example?" | Jul 21 17:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I coined these term to remind people that there's DRM and lots of other issues still inside | Jul 21 17:22 |
| r_schestowitz | *terms | Jul 21 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | Windows 10 is no longer like Vista. | Jul 21 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | It's far worse now. | Jul 21 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | Update subscriptions | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, it keeps getting worse | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | thankfully, not many people buy into it | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | adoption rates of Windows have fallen | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | this is why pricing tricks are making it easier to entrap people and get them 'hooked' (lock in) on 'cloud' | Jul 21 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | Christians are always wrong. | Jul 21 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | They think angels live in the cloud. | Jul 21 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | But it's the Devil himself. | Jul 21 17:25 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6370603 | Jul 21 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de: #capitalism #fail #humanrights #humanity #finance #poverty | Jul 21 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by anonymiss@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_8ad8a8b17bd143490531.jpg | Jul 21 17:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Shit processed food." | Jul 21 17:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Merchandising | Jul 21 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | Jul 21 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 17:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Trends: Part 1 http://t.co/7mWjYSNsO4 | Jul 21 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjaminkerensa.com | Ubuntu Trends: Part 1 – Benjamin Kerensa | Jul 21 17:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Trends, Mozilla Thunderbird, Canonical | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing http://t.co/UdYFKJvyFu | Jul 21 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Trends, Mozilla Thunderbird, Canonical Licensing | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux game review: OpenTTD | Jul 21 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | A look at OpenTTD, an open source game for Linux | Opensource.com | Jul 21 17:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux? | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/zrft5IGFA0 (www.itworld.com) | Jul 21 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux? | ITworld | Jul 21 17:49 | |
| xiso | Don't think win kernal has changed much since original vista. | Jul 21 18:00 |
| xiso | Just UI changes - like monkeys throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks. | Jul 21 18:01 |
| xiso | DRM got worse with each reiteration of win version after vista. | Jul 21 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pisi Linux 1.2 Screencast and Screenshots | Jul 21 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/N4gdJimyEX (www.linuxquestions.org) | Jul 21 18:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Screencast and Screenshots | Jul 21 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Satellite Rush Is an Awesome Roguelike Shooter | Jul 21 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux http://t.co/nV9Gw5Njkh | Jul 21 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Satellite Rush Is an Awesome Roguelike Shooter for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 21 18:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cloud Native Computing Foundation seeks to | Jul 21 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | forge cloud and container unity | Jul 21 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WOiDnvUGvK (www.zdnet.com) 'cloud' | Jul 21 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Cloud Native Computing Foundation seeks to forge cloud and container unity | ZDNet | Jul 21 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | that's self-controlled | Jul 21 18:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Future for Fedora Phones | Jul 21 18:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | No Future for Fedora Phones | Jul 21 18:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 980 Ti Is Running Strong | Jul 21 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Under Linux http://t.co/eMBjkBXP6i | Jul 21 18:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cloud Native Computing Foundation seeks to | Jul 21 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | forge cloud and container unity | Jul 21 18:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cloud Native Computing Foundation seeks to forge cloud and container unity | Tux Machines | Jul 21 18:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora: Phones, BTRFS, and Rants | Jul 21 19:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: Phones, BTRFS, and Rants | Tux Machines | Jul 21 19:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE/Qt/Plasma http://t.co/3k8j5Cag29 | Jul 21 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE/Qt/Plasma | Tux Machines | Jul 21 19:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation Membership Grows as Linux | Jul 21 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dominates IT Infrastructure | Jul 21 19:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | MariaDB now http://t.co/SETRtPEIIS | Jul 21 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaljournal.com | Linux Foundation Membership Grows as Linux Dominates IT Infrastructure - Press Release - Digital Journal | Jul 21 19:30 | |
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| r_schestowitz | [18:00] <xiso> Don't think win kernal has changed much since original vista. | Jul 21 23:21 |
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| cubexyz | klipper's history is strange | Jul 22 00:39 |
| cubexyz | it's interpersed with nulls | Jul 22 00:39 |
| cubexyz | also ctrl-y and ctrl-l's | Jul 22 00:41 |
| MinceR | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-21/470000-vehicles-risk-after-hackers-take-control-crash-jeep-cherokee-sofa-10-miles-aw | Jul 22 00:56 |
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| cubexyz | ok, strings klipper-history.txt seems to help a lot | Jul 22 00:57 |
| cubexyz | no idea why all those control codes are in there | Jul 22 00:57 |
| MinceR | maybe klipper keeps some metadata in them | Jul 22 00:58 |
| cubexyz | doubtless KDE >4.0 is different again | Jul 22 00:58 |
| MinceR | like "this came from PRIMARY, this came from CLIPBOARD" | Jul 22 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think rasterized images can be in there too | Jul 22 01:00 |
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| cubexyz | definitely not straight text though | Jul 22 01:01 |
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| cubexyz | I assume it's possible to "dcop klipper something" | Jul 22 01:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. | Jul 22 01:13 |
| cubexyz | dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents 12345 | Jul 22 01:13 |
| cubexyz | that will add the text 12345 to klipper's history | Jul 22 01:14 |
| MinceR | at least in kde3 and tde | Jul 22 01:15 |
| MinceR | kde4 uses dbus instead | Jul 22 01:16 |
| MinceR | which sucks | Jul 22 01:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, a bit tricky to cover every case | Jul 22 01:16 |
| cubexyz | there used to be an actually book for KDE | Jul 22 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I think it only covered KDE 2 | Jul 22 01:17 |
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| cubexyz | dcop klipper klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu | Jul 22 01:22 |
| cubexyz | there we go, all automatic | Jul 22 01:23 |
| cubexyz | why use dbus suck? | Jul 22 01:23 |
| cubexyz | er | Jul 22 01:23 |
| cubexyz | why does dbus suck? | Jul 22 01:23 |
| MinceR | it's overcomplicated and it's intended to serve for the entire system, not just an X session | Jul 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | and yet it's not designed to be restartable | Jul 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | you're supposed to reboot, like in poettering's favorite OS | Jul 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | (clients won't reconnect to the new dbus instance or something like that) | Jul 22 01:26 |
| MinceR | also, sending a message requires specifying an FQDN 3 times, using 2 different formats | Jul 22 01:26 |
| MinceR | which is ridiculous | Jul 22 01:26 |
| MinceR | also, introspection tends to fail and the application doing it tends to crash | Jul 22 01:26 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, even openbsd seems to use dbus-daemon | Jul 22 01:26 |
| cubexyz | there seems to be a battle between the old and the new all the time | Jul 22 01:30 |
| cubexyz | but at least dcop lives on in trinity | Jul 22 01:30 |
| cubexyz | on vector linux I've kept up with the KDE 3.5.10 stuff | Jul 22 01:36 |
| cubexyz | on openbsd I'm using a combination of icewm and components of xfce | Jul 22 01:36 |
| cubexyz | if I run a KDE 3.5.10 application on openbsd then dcop kicks in | Jul 22 01:38 |
| cubexyz | I think openbsd still uses KDE 3.5.10 actually | Jul 22 01:38 |
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| amarsh04 | still running KDE 3.5.9/10 on this machine, had to recompile one library for it to run with newer kernels | Jul 22 01:56 |
| cubexyz | which library? | Jul 22 02:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Review : Second Ubuntu Phone | Jul 22 02:18 |
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| amarsh04 | cubexyz, let me check | Jul 22 02:19 |
| amarsh04 | cubexyz, kdelibs4c2a | Jul 22 02:20 |
| cubexyz | amarsh04, ok thanks, that's interesting info | Jul 22 02:20 |
| oiaohm | There was also the dirty trick to force Linux kernel into old version emulation mode. | Jul 22 02:21 |
| oiaohm | Rebuilding the 1 library for those staying back that far was the best. | Jul 22 02:21 |
| oiaohm | Found the cause of my once in a blue moon dhcpd drop outs on one system. dhcpcd was installed instead of dhcpcd5 | Jul 22 02:26 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: Did you get the complete p system running with konsole/mc in any of your systems? | Jul 22 02:33 |
| cubexyz | msb__, haven't tried it as yet | Jul 22 02:34 |
| cubexyz | but it should be possible | Jul 22 02:34 |
| cubexyz | there's .viminfo | Jul 22 02:42 |
| cubexyz | I'll have to adjust the script | Jul 22 02:42 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I think I was using a program called xselection previously. | Jul 22 02:42 |
| amarsh04 | running Debian, which dropped support for KDE 3.5.x earlier than some other distributions | Jul 22 02:43 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jul 22 02:44 |
| cubexyz | also I don't have qdbus | Jul 22 02:44 |
| cubexyz | but I think I can adjust it for dcop | Jul 22 02:44 |
| msb__ | you can get qdbus if you need it, right? | Jul 22 02:45 |
| oiaohm | msb__: using trinity yes qdbus is not part of qt3 | Jul 22 02:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I think I've managed to adjust it | Jul 22 02:50 |
| cubexyz | how do I use it? | Jul 22 02:50 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I found the old p system! p used to be a function in .bashrc -- http://cosmicpenguin.com/p.old.zip | Jul 22 03:05 |
| msb__ | That old one uses xselection | Jul 22 03:05 |
| msb__ | ok, you have two konsoles in two different directories. run mc in each one. | Jul 22 03:06 |
| msb__ | You have p in your path, along with the scripts that it calls. | Jul 22 03:07 |
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| msb__ | In the first directory, you have a file. Put the mc cursor on that file. Type p <alt-enter> | Jul 22 03:09 |
| cubexyz | ok I see $ p xs | Jul 22 03:11 |
| msb__ | go to the konsole in the second directory. Actually it does not have to have mc in it. type cp <middle-mouse-button> . That will copy the file into the second directory. | Jul 22 03:11 |
| msb__ | Yikes, don't be root! | Jul 22 03:12 |
| msb__ | You are experimenting! | Jul 22 03:12 |
| cubexyz | I'm not | Jul 22 03:12 |
| cubexyz | root prompt is # | Jul 22 03:13 |
| msb__ | oh | Jul 22 03:13 |
| msb__ | So it is. My non-root prompt is all fancy, so I don't know what it is! | Jul 22 03:14 |
| cubexyz | hold on a sec | Jul 22 03:15 |
| cubexyz | there's a script called xsel plus there's the command xsel | Jul 22 03:15 |
| msb__ | In the new system? | Jul 22 03:15 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jul 22 03:16 |
| msb__ | you have the xsel script in your path, right. Doesn't giving the command xsel just call that? | Jul 22 03:18 |
| msb__ | If not, where and what is the command xsel? | Jul 22 03:18 |
| cubexyz | xsel is /usr/local/bin/xsel | Jul 22 03:18 |
| cubexyz | but it's also the script name.. I think the first one gets priority | Jul 22 03:19 |
| cubexyz | xsel is the command to manipulate X selection | Jul 22 03:19 |
| msb__ | I don't have /usr/local/bin/xsel | Jul 22 03:19 |
| cubexyz | I may have compiled it | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | wait, openbsd has it too | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | so I don't think I did | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | part of X | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | may not be in every distro | Jul 22 03:21 |
| msb__ | I been robbed! I coulda been a billionaire! | Jul 22 03:21 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'll just rename the xsel script | Jul 22 03:21 |
| msb__ | right, and the calls to it | Jul 22 03:21 |
| cubexyz | I think p is the only script that calls xsel (which I will now call xsel1) | Jul 22 03:23 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, xs also calls it | Jul 22 03:24 |
| cubexyz | ok I think it worked | Jul 22 03:25 |
| cubexyz | I've adapted your pfile stuff to dcop | Jul 22 03:25 |
| msb__ | Yay! | Jul 22 03:25 |
| cubexyz | also vim :) | Jul 22 03:25 |
| cubexyz | I can't remember ever using xsel | Jul 22 03:28 |
| msb__ | That's how I work. 20 virtual desktops, purpose oriented. 1-5 konsoles in each one, with mc in them, aimed at the relevant directories for that purpose. p system -- textmode drag-n-drop -- for copying, moving, comparing files between directories. | Jul 22 03:29 |
| msb__ | Does vim do file management? | Jul 22 03:30 |
| cubexyz | there's vifm | Jul 22 03:30 |
| cubexyz | it's actually similar to mc | Jul 22 03:31 |
| msb__ | For older systems, the stuff in p.old.zip should work. Doesn't use klipper (or qdbus) at all. The p function should be a script. | Jul 22 03:34 |
| cubexyz | now theres a third version :) | Jul 22 03:35 |
| msb__ | Great! | Jul 22 03:35 |
| msb__ | Would you please zip up all the scripts and send it to me? | Jul 22 03:35 |
| cubexyz | zip doesn't seem very unixy to me but ok :) | Jul 22 03:36 |
| cubexyz | we can debate the niceties later | Jul 22 03:38 |
| cubexyz | I didn't delete any lines, just commented them out | Jul 22 03:39 |
| cubexyz | so edbuf was changed to ~/.viminfo | Jul 22 03:40 |
| msb__ | Don't mix any of the files from the three versions on the same system. It could cause a chronosynclastic infundibulum. | Jul 22 03:40 |
| cubexyz | since I use vim in mc | Jul 22 03:40 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pfiles-for-kde3.zip | Jul 22 03:41 |
| cubexyz | also xsel should be renamed I think | Jul 22 03:42 |
| cubexyz | which I did | Jul 22 03:42 |
| msb__ | Thanks! | Jul 22 03:43 |
| msb__ | That's almost as dangerous as a polyphase quasitron! | Jul 22 03:44 |
| cubexyz | it's a pity I can't talk to most of my friends about this stuff | Jul 22 03:45 |
| cubexyz | it's blah blah powershell | Jul 22 03:46 |
| oiaohm | I just got 500 megs of space back sometimes debian updating is stupid. Updated wesnorth installed all new campainfiles and left all the version before ones that it was never going to use installed. | Jul 22 03:46 |
| msb__ | It's pretty simple. At least it was before systemd, pulseaudio, and kde4 | Jul 22 03:46 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I would not systemd has been all bad. Something are better. | Jul 22 03:47 |
| cubexyz | I'm probably the biggest traditionalist around here :) | Jul 22 03:47 |
| oiaohm | kde4 I have got use to. | Jul 22 03:48 |
| oiaohm | Windows deploying applications in a large network is hell. | Jul 22 03:48 |
| oiaohm | Windows you have guess the process as well. | Jul 22 03:48 |
| msb__ | I was a pro at PCDOS. XTREE was my favorite tool. I had about 80 categorized utilities. All on a hardshell floppy I'd carry around to jobs. | Jul 22 03:49 |
| msb__ | I still have to stop myself from calling shell script "batch files". | Jul 22 03:49 |
| msb__ | scripts | Jul 22 03:50 |
| cubexyz | see, that's the evil Microsoft influence right there :) | Jul 22 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Here is something super fun I had recently with Windows. | Jul 22 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Hp laptop dead harddrive. | Jul 22 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Guess what no Windows drivers on the HP site and just to be worse generic retail disc does not install. So pay HP dollars to send you a new install set. | Jul 22 03:51 |
| cubexyz | msb__, didn't you use computers before microsoft existed? | Jul 22 03:51 |
| cubexyz | you can remember the golden age | Jul 22 03:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I remember the microbees | Jul 22 03:51 |
| cubexyz | DEC used to be mighty | Jul 22 03:52 |
| cubexyz | now they are gone | Jul 22 03:52 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBee << cubexyz | Jul 22 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MicroBee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 22 03:52 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: LINC, PDP-8, in high school, something from a cash-register company with a drum but no RAM. | Jul 22 03:53 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, yes there's a kit too for that | Jul 22 03:53 |
| cubexyz | but the snobs want mini-computers | Jul 22 03:55 |
| cubexyz | even though they're power hungry | Jul 22 03:55 |
| msb__ | Had a beautiful front panel for an S100 computer, but never built it. | Jul 22 03:55 |
| msb__ | My first functional home computer was an IBM-PC 8088. | Jul 22 03:56 |
| msb__ | Filled out the RAM, put a 720 track floppy on it, and eventually a 25MB hard drive. | Jul 22 03:57 |
| cubexyz | when did you get into Linux? | Jul 22 03:58 |
| oiaohm | me 1994-1995 | Jul 22 03:59 |
| oiaohm | BSD before that. | Jul 22 03:59 |
| oiaohm | And Unix before that. | Jul 22 03:59 |
| msb__ | Unix in the 90s sometime. Had an account on a UCSF Unix computer, and talked to it with a terminal emulator I wrote in BASIC on the IBMPC. | Jul 22 04:00 |
| cubexyz | a pity you didn't work on PDP-11s | Jul 22 04:01 |
| msb__ | Don't remember what kind of Unix. But I would log out and it would keep on charging me! | Jul 22 04:01 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did you ever work on Vax? | Jul 22 04:01 |
| oiaohm | Australia where I was no such thing. | Jul 22 04:02 |
| oiaohm | Dec alpha yes. | Jul 22 04:02 |
| msb__ | I programmed on PDP-6/10. | Jul 22 04:02 |
| cubexyz | PDP-6... wow I can't even remember those at all | Jul 22 04:02 |
| cubexyz | precessor to PDP-10? | Jul 22 04:03 |
| msb__ | It ran the whole university. Had a live-in engineer. | Jul 22 04:03 |
| msb__ | yep | Jul 22 04:03 |
| cubexyz | predecessor | Jul 22 04:03 |
| cubexyz | I worked on PDP-10 for a while | Jul 22 04:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where I was went from PDP-11 to Aphas completely skipped Vax | Jul 22 04:04 |
| msb__ | two bits of the accumulator was a pc board about 2 foot by 2 foot. | Jul 22 04:04 |
| cubexyz | vector display I think? | Jul 22 04:04 |
| msb__ | Can't remember the (or any) display. | Jul 22 04:05 |
| msb__ | Had 6 teletypes. | Jul 22 04:05 |
| oiaohm | The alpha workstations I missed. | Jul 22 04:06 |
| oiaohm | It was horible going back to a PC from them. | Jul 22 04:06 |
| oiaohm | 32 inch screens 24 bit color and a fairly high res screen 1992 | Jul 22 04:07 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did you ever run windows on the Dec Alphas? | Jul 22 04:07 |
| oiaohm | No they were all the au types | Jul 22 04:07 |
| oiaohm | So NT would not install even if you wanted to. | Jul 22 04:07 |
| msb__ | I programmed a flying-spot scanner to input nanosecond oscilloscope polaroids into the PDP-6. It ran on a PDP-8, using an oscilloscope and photomultiplier tube. Programmed in assembly on the PDP8 and Fortran on the PDP-6. | Jul 22 04:08 |
| cubexyz | just as well | Jul 22 04:08 |
| oiaohm | I did see NT on straight a | Jul 22 04:08 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it was the most stable I ever saw windows run. | Jul 22 04:08 |
| cubexyz | I guess Alpha is completely dead now | Jul 22 04:09 |
| cubexyz | msb__, from what I understand PDP-6 was very rare | Jul 22 04:10 |
| cubexyz | you're lucky you got a chance to work on one | Jul 22 04:10 |
| msb__ | 36-bit words! | Jul 22 04:12 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Alpha has not even been revived as a fpga. | Jul 22 04:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so Alpha as a design is truly dead. | Jul 22 04:16 |
| cubexyz | compaq killed alpha | Jul 22 04:16 |
| cubexyz | which was bizarre... paved the way for intel to just about take over | Jul 22 04:17 |
| msb__ | Only Fortran on the pdp6. Later SunOS on Sparcs and some kind of 386 Unix box at Stanford. | Jul 22 04:18 |
| cubexyz | there was Sun 386 | Jul 22 04:18 |
| msb__ | did C on those and on my PC. | Jul 22 04:18 |
| msb__ | yup, that was it | Jul 22 04:19 |
| cubexyz | so instead of having Suns and Sparcs and Alphas we have wintel and vista and win8 | Jul 22 04:20 |
| oiaohm | Sparc design is still half alive. | Jul 22 04:21 |
| cubexyz | well not us as such | Jul 22 04:21 |
| cubexyz | we could be running AMD/Linux | Jul 22 04:21 |
| msb__ | exactly what I run | Jul 22 04:21 |
| msb__ | cheap and powerful | Jul 22 04:22 |
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| oiaohm | opensparc what is sparc in fpga exists. | Jul 22 04:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Yocto-ready ARM COM supports industrial temps | Tux Machines | Jul 22 04:22 | |
| msb__ | "yocto" means 10^-24. I doubt that it's _that_ tiny. | Jul 22 04:25 |
| cubexyz | Yocto as in the "Yocto Project" | Jul 22 04:26 |
| cubexyz | Linux for embedded systems | Jul 22 04:26 |
| msb__ | These metric prefixes are starting to sound Yiddish. | Jul 22 04:27 |
| oiaohm | msb__: some of those metric prefixes almost make me thing someone wrote them when they were off their face | Jul 22 04:28 |
| cubexyz | derived from Greek I think | Jul 22 04:29 |
| msb__ | off their face? Does that mean on their ass? | Jul 22 04:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: how it is deried is the issue. | Jul 22 04:30 |
| msb__ | "He's a real yocto goniff!" That's got to mean something insulting in Yiddish. Almost everything in Yiddish is an insult, at least the way my relatives spoke it. | Jul 22 04:30 |
| oiaohm | Zeta how will we derived from this to get ISO word. yep Zetta Almost exactly the same sound. | Jul 22 04:31 |
| cubexyz | all 18th and 19th century gentlemen learned Greek | Jul 22 04:31 |
| cubexyz | probably not now | Jul 22 04:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically ISO metric prefixs are basically people who cannot spell greek to english correctly intentionally. | Jul 22 04:32 |
| msb__ | In San Francisco... oh never mind. | Jul 22 04:32 |
| cubexyz | blame Jan Hendrik van Swinden then | Jul 22 04:33 |
| cubexyz | well, maybe not for Zeta | Jul 22 04:34 |
| cubexyz | oh was it Latin for subdivisions? | Jul 22 04:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, 19th century gentlemen had to learn Latin too | Jul 22 04:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I forgot ISO metric prefixes are derivied at random almost from different langauges. | Jul 22 04:38 |
| cubexyz | metro cattolico :) | Jul 22 04:38 |
| oiaohm | Zetta is Zeta from greek | Jul 22 04:38 |
| oiaohm | So horible mess. | Jul 22 04:38 |
| cubexyz | ah it's a mix then | Jul 22 04:39 |
| cubexyz | Latin, Greek, Spanish and Dano-Norwegian | Jul 22 04:39 |
| msb__ | Yenta! That's what I was thinking of. A gossip. | Jul 22 04:39 |
| oiaohm | Then you have like zebibyte | Jul 22 04:40 |
| msb__ | Well, better than a shiksa or a schvartze. | Jul 22 04:40 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, zetta is from the Latin 'eight' | Jul 22 04:40 |
| cubexyz | oops wait | Jul 22 04:40 |
| cubexyz | zetta is latin 'seven' | Jul 22 04:41 |
| cubexyz | it's not consistent | Jul 22 04:41 |
| oiaohm | I knew there was a story. | Jul 22 04:42 |
| oiaohm | with zetta being a screw up. | Jul 22 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Now I remember it is greek to latin where it gets screwed up. | Jul 22 04:42 |
| cubexyz | and we have september as the 9th month, so also odd | Jul 22 04:42 |
| oiaohm | zeta is 6 letter in greek alphabet but someone romans turned that into 7. | Jul 22 04:43 |
| oiaohm | so needing the word zetta | Jul 22 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Now greek roman trade could get confusing because of this. | Jul 22 04:44 |
| oiaohm | Yes both in short form are written z | Jul 22 04:44 |
| cubexyz | petabyte is a bit dubious as well | Jul 22 04:47 |
| cubexyz | peta is Greek for five | Jul 22 04:47 |
| cubexyz | (10^3)^5 | Jul 22 04:47 |
| cubexyz | ok, 1000 to the 5th power | Jul 22 04:49 |
| cubexyz | sounds better :) | Jul 22 04:49 |
| oiaohm | This is the point the more you try to make sense of ISO numbering the more insane it gets. | Jul 22 04:49 |
| oiaohm | No consistancy in method. | Jul 22 04:49 |
| msb__ | XRevan86 turned me on to this great band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leBU07KRA1c | Jul 22 05:04 |
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| oiaohm | Looks like wayland support is going to land in Libreoffice as of 5.0 | Jul 22 05:15 |
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| cubexyz | xsel1 can be used to put stuff on klipper | Jul 22 06:37 |
| cubexyz | alt-enter must be a mc thing | Jul 22 06:38 |
| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/07/21/1836201/california-legislation-may-allow-first-responders-to-take-out-drones | Jul 22 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | California Legislation May Allow First Responders To Take Out Drones - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/n70jr ] | Jul 22 06:39 | |
| oiaohm | This is a what the about usa regulation. | Jul 22 06:39 |
| oiaohm | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/10/aussie-authorities-slam-bushfire-drone-pilots/ | Jul 22 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Aussie Authorities Slam Bushfire Drone Pilots | Gizmodo Australia [ http://ur1.ca/n70l0 ] | Jul 22 06:40 | |
| oiaohm | Australian regulation a bushfire is automatically restricted airspace. | Jul 22 06:40 |
| oiaohm | Anything in restricted airspace without permission can be exterminated by any choosen means. | Jul 22 06:41 |
| oiaohm | If it does not contain a living human. | Jul 22 06:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes the rule applies to weather balloons, drones and what ever else you can think up. | Jul 22 06:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the Hessling Editor is like IBM XEDIT | Jul 22 06:48 |
| cubexyz | from australia | Jul 22 06:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its short name is THE | Jul 22 06:51 |
| oiaohm | The worse recusrive name ever. "The Hessling Editor"=THE | Jul 22 06:52 |
| cubexyz | don't think it's been updated in quite a while | Jul 22 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes I hated using it cubexyz | Jul 22 06:52 |
| oiaohm | 2006 was last update cubexyz | Jul 22 06:53 |
| cubexyz | is there a tarball for that? | Jul 22 06:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes on sourceforge. | Jul 22 06:54 |
| cubexyz | lol | Jul 22 06:54 |
| oiaohm | http://sourceforge.net/projects/hessling-editor/files/hessling-editor/ | Jul 22 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | The Hessling Editor - Browse /hessling-editor at SourceForge.net [ http://ur1.ca/n70po ] | Jul 22 06:55 | |
| oiaohm | Ok so there are a few updated versions. | Jul 22 06:55 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I have to switch to russian repo for my "old" openbsd box :) | Jul 22 06:55 |
| oiaohm | Just no releases since 2006 | Jul 22 06:55 |
| oiaohm | But there was a testing version last year. | Jul 22 06:56 |
| cubexyz | what did you not like about it? | Jul 22 06:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my memory mixed with its commands. | Jul 22 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Remember GUI and me get along. | Jul 22 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Heavy command line remembering stacks of options don't get along. | Jul 22 06:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my tastes are not that complex. | Jul 22 06:58 |
| cubexyz | well generally text based programs are simpler than GUI programs | Jul 22 07:02 |
| cubexyz | ncurses programs could have menus | Jul 22 07:02 |
| oiaohm | like nano and mcedit and I don't mind them. | Jul 22 07:02 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, and the name 'the' for a program is just bad | Jul 22 07:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes I know text based programs can be made simple but why in heck when modern day text terminals support rewriting where ever you like on the screen do we have to be stuck to interfaces like vim.. | Jul 22 07:04 |
| cubexyz | so I search the repos for the word 'the'? :-P | Jul 22 07:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: as I said its the worse one from the age of recusive names. | Jul 22 07:04 |
| oiaohm | Like GNU is fairly bad but "The Hessling Editor"=THE just takes the cake. | Jul 22 07:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes the author of it refers to it as the and the command to start it is the | Jul 22 07:05 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: guess how much the the editor is when you by mistake paste into a terminal. | Jul 22 07:06 |
| cubexyz | there's japanese vim too :) | Jul 22 07:06 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you run any BSD boxes? | Jul 22 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Not at the moment. | Jul 22 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Was running one about a year and a half ago. | Jul 22 07:08 |
| oiaohm | If I am running bsd or not is more if anyone asks. | Jul 22 07:08 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: Yes, alt-enter is specific to mc AFAIK | Jul 22 07:10 |
| cubexyz | the russian repo site is pretty awesome | Jul 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | I remembered why I hated alt-enter in mc | Jul 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | alt-enter happens to be what a lot of virtual machines have aligned to go full screen. | Jul 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | but at least mc you can reconfigure it. | Jul 22 07:14 |
| cubexyz | pkg_mgr is pretty nice too | Jul 22 07:17 |
| oiaohm | BSD developers do lots of thing right. | Jul 22 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Problem is just they don't get long term hardware support mostly due to the fact the license allows closed source. | Jul 22 07:19 |
| oiaohm | BSD idea of quality merged with Linux licensing mode would have been the best OS ever. | Jul 22 07:20 |
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| schestowitz | > what was Hastings driving? Though I gather his exploded prior to the | Jul 22 09:38 |
| schestowitz | > crash. | Jul 22 09:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: As he died, Hastings rode a Mercedes with computer managing a lot of the car. He was writing an expose about John Brennan at the time. #cia | Jul 22 09:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Linux Journal | Jul 22 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/o8iw653Zzm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Tux Machines | Jul 22 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Jul 22 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 22 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Jul 22 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Tux Machines | Jul 22 11:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced | Jul 22 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Available http://t.co/h92CvlMHWA | Jul 22 13:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced Version Available | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Jul 22 13:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/BWNJO77WAU | Jul 22 13:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 1.0.2 released | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:07 | |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Glibc-2.22-ARM-NaCl This is getting interesting. | Jul 22 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Glibc 2.22 Will Have NaCl Support For ARMv7-A, Libmvec Vector Math Library - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/n73fx ] | Jul 22 13:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDAB contributions to Qt 5.5 | Jul 22 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the OS http://t.co/IcwVasGQon | Jul 22 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside the OS | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phone | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for a month and ended up liking it more than | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/TGVjdPtzVC | Jul 22 13:43 |
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| oiaohm | Now if ubuntu phone takes off it will make a joke out of Windows phone in so many ways its not funny. | Jul 22 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unsolicitedbutoffered.blogspot.co.uk | Unsolicited But Offered: What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 14:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/ZC7rwx9b1o | Jul 22 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.0.2 released | DNF | Jul 22 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside | Jul 22 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the OS http://t.co/ql6S1vp9EK | Jul 22 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside the OS - Softpedia | Jul 22 14:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 14:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Tux Machines | Jul 22 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Improvements http://t.co/JcQWA9Iyih | Jul 22 14:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over | Jul 22 14:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over open-source code discovery | Tux Machines | Jul 22 14:09 | |
| oiaohm | http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-matthew-garrett-says-ubuntu-container-images-are-breaking-copyright-probably-487418.shtml | Jul 22 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CoreOS' Matthew Garrett Says Ubuntu Container Images Are Breaking Copyright, Probably - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/n73zc ] | Jul 22 14:10 | |
| oiaohm | interesting. | Jul 22 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a Linux | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kernel problem http://t.co/C7zBTdCJUc | Jul 22 14:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techreport.com | Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a Linux kernel problem - The Tech Report | Jul 22 14:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available on Mac, Linux with New Features | Jul 22 14:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.escapistmagazine.com | Star Wars KOTOR II Sith Lords Steam Update Mac Linux | The Escapist | Jul 22 14:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/9sTOX3I0kd | Jul 22 18:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More | Jul 22 18:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Again The New Solus http://t.co/KZiEaRBPhM | Jul 22 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together Again | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Jul 22 18:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For | Jul 22 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Containers http://t.co/AmiFsqTI8E | Jul 22 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Linux.com | Jul 22 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu | Jul 22 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSes http://t.co/PMPwSxKn6A | Jul 22 18:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Jul 22 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aMG5Ok77dw (www.techrepublic.com) | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux - TechRepublic | Jul 22 18:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For | Jul 22 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Containers http://t.co/cTR279Dgkx | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Jul 22 18:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Jul 22 18:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Jul 22 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs http://t.co/SV8Y4TTTR5 (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle SoCs · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 18:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam for Linux Stable Client Update with Lots | Jul 22 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Fixes http://t.co/rZgmSgjiw1 | Jul 22 19:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve and HTC's Vive stand at the precipice of | Jul 22 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | VR's future, but they may have a long wait | Jul 22 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/D10GWXIE5R (www.polygon.com) | Jul 22 19:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.polygon.com | Valve and HTC's Vive stand at the precipice of VR's future, but they may have a long wait | Polygon | Jul 22 19:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II | Jul 22 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arrives on Linux with Massive Update | Jul 22 19:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II Arrives on Linux with Massive Update - Softpedia | Jul 22 19:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Breach & Clear: Deadline Tactical Action | Jul 22 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Strategy Lands on Linux | Jul 22 19:10 |
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| MinceR | 163414 < msb__> Great speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM | Jul 22 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 5 Minute Speech that Got Judge Napolitano Fired from Fox News - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n6rtm ] | Jul 22 19:13 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 19:13 |
| MinceR | i miss the part saying "how can a people be free if they don't want to be free?", though | Jul 22 19:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Breach & Clear: Deadline Tactical Action | Jul 22 19:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Strategy Lands on Linux | Jul 22 19:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Breach & Clear: Deadline Tactical Action Strategy Lands on Linux - Softpedia | Jul 22 19:19 | |
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| msb__ | MinceR: The only reason people don't want to be free is if they have been programmed (brainwashed) by the media/govt not to want freedom. Or if they have been programmed to think that they already are free when they're not. | Jul 22 19:22 |
| MinceR | i suspect they might have an instinctual tendency for it too | Jul 22 19:23 |
| msb__ | I don't think so, because the govt/media does a huge amount of broadcasting lies to them to make them think they are free. | Jul 22 19:24 |
| msb__ | When Napolitano told the people they are not free, the media immediately fired him. | Jul 22 19:25 |
| MinceR | seemed like fox noise got pissed he dared say that their favorite party was no different or better | Jul 22 19:26 |
| MinceR | and just as complicit in the state of matters | Jul 22 19:26 |
| msb__ | I don't remember him even mentioning the Repugs. | Jul 22 19:27 |
| MinceR | he mentioned two parties | Jul 22 19:27 |
| msb__ | The Dems are a little better, giving people more money to survive on, etc. | Jul 22 19:27 |
| msb__ | But in foreign affairs, wars, etc. both are equally evil. | Jul 22 19:28 |
| msb__ | The brainwashing by media isn't only in the US and England. You must have it in Hungary or people would kick out Orban. | Jul 22 19:29 |
| MinceR | the dems are sometimes willing to compromise on issues that are not particularly important to the sponsors of both parties | Jul 22 19:30 |
| MinceR | afaict | Jul 22 19:30 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It's very hard to realize how much we are lied to unless we read news sources like Global Research, Op-Ed News, Truth-Out, New Eastern Outlook, Russia Today, TeleSUR, Free Critical Thinking | Jul 22 19:38 |
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| MinceR | ironic how you list well known sources of propaganda there | Jul 22 19:38 |
| msb__ | As far as I know they are all accurate. | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, as far as you know | Jul 22 19:39 |
| msb__ | I do my best to find out, by comparing them with other sources. | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Jul 22 19:40 |
| msb__ | If you think they are lying, please give some examples. | Jul 22 19:40 |
| MinceR | RT is an outlet with the primary function of spouting putler's propaganda | Jul 22 19:41 |
| msb__ | What has RT said that is untrue? | Jul 22 19:41 |
| MinceR | pretty much everything they said about ukraine, for example | Jul 22 19:42 |
| msb__ | What exactly? | Jul 22 19:42 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Here's the best article I've seen on Ukraine (but there have been many others from other new sites saying the same thing). Note this is not from RT. | Jul 22 19:47 |
| msb__ | MinceR: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554 | Jul 22 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ] | Jul 22 19:47 | |
| MinceR | yeah, the title is already bullshit | Jul 22 19:47 |
| MinceR | but i can see you love fascism as long as it's russians doing it | Jul 22 19:47 |
| MinceR | why don't you move to russia if you love it so much? | Jul 22 19:47 |
| MinceR | you could even enlist and help them subjugate ukraine, estonia, latvia and lithuania | Jul 22 19:48 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What are you talking about? This article is about what the US did, not Russia. | Jul 22 19:48 |
| MinceR | (or you could just move to hungary and wait until orban arranges an anschluss) | Jul 22 19:48 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What are you talking about? This article is about what the US did, not Russia. | Jul 22 19:48 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about what your idol is doing and which these garbage outlets are supporting with their propaganda | Jul 22 19:48 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about how a few nazis in the ukrainian government make that government nazi, but putler adding a nationalist (and christian fundamentalist) element to the "socialism" of the USSR doesn't make him a nazi | Jul 22 19:49 |
| msb__ | Putin's name doesn't appear anywhere in that article! | Jul 22 19:50 |
| MinceR | but if you love fascism adorned with a red star so much, russia and north korea are waiting for you. | Jul 22 19:50 |
| MinceR | you probably wouldn't be welcome in hungary though, as putin's local buddies have arranged a xenophobic circus here. | Jul 22 19:52 |
| msb__ | You said RT was lying about Ukraine. I disproved you. | Jul 22 19:52 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It was Boris Yeltsin, with total US collaboration, that wrecked the Russian economy, sold off all its assets for 1/10 of their value, and essentially instituted fascism. | Jul 22 19:58 |
| MinceR | except yeltsin wasn't even in power until your beloved marxist ideals wrecked the russian economy | Jul 22 19:58 |
| MinceR | and made the empire collapse | Jul 22 19:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, chapter 11 | Jul 22 19:59 |
| MinceR | that was when the people you love so much finally hauled their asses out of hungary | Jul 22 19:59 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure it's easy to cheerlead for a fascist dictatorship from the other side of the planet | Jul 22 19:59 |
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| MinceR | i bet you would have loved hitler too if he didn't stick "national" in front of "socialism" | Jul 22 20:00 |
| msb__ | Instead of personal attacks, tell me what you don't like about marxist ideals. | Jul 22 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | Oh hey, I'm on the right side of the planet. | Jul 22 20:00 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: Hi! | Jul 22 20:01 |
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| XRevan86 | msb__: hi | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | for one, i don't like how that idiot considered it plausible that a dictatorship would just give up its power for the sake of a stateless society | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | that's about as absurd an expectation as they come. | Jul 22 20:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who are you talking about? | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: marx | Jul 22 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He said that? | Jul 22 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | When did he? | Jul 22 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | If you mean "dictatorship of the proletariat" then it's totally equal to "dictatorship of the user" in GPL :). | Jul 22 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | At least that analogy is totally legit. | Jul 22 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I know people who call GPL a fascist license so maybe you're right. | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | I thought Marx/Lenin/Engels said there should be a communist party that would control everyone else, because they understood the right way to do things. | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | And I disagree with that! | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | I think there should be real democracy at all levels. | Jul 22 20:05 |
| msb__ | Mondragon works fine without people being forced. | Jul 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | but you somehow believe that the USSR and putin's empire are "real democracies" | Jul 22 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: I hope you don't mean the representative democracy. | Jul 22 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | at least not the one I can see in Russia and US | Jul 22 20:06 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: No, representative democracy is easily corrupted. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's a pity his followers apparently understood it as the usual sense of "dictatorship" | Jul 22 20:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's their problems. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | perhaps he should have picked his words more carefully. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know how democratic Russia is now. | Jul 22 20:07 |
| MinceR | msb__: afaik it's an oligarchy where putin has leverage over all the oligarchs he allowed to remain, so basically all power is in putin's hands | Jul 22 20:07 |
| msb__ | But what I have said is that Putin is doing a good job of trying to hold off the enormous fascist attacks of the US. | Jul 22 20:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: One likes to toy with words :). | Jul 22 20:07 |
| MinceR | was pussy riot a "fascist attack of the us" too? | Jul 22 20:07 |
| MinceR | msb__: would you like to be jailed for insulting putin's favorite cult? | Jul 22 20:08 |
| msb__ | Putin's attack on Pussy Riot was extremely stupid. | Jul 22 20:08 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: How's that? Putin wouldn't want to stop being friends with his bud Kirill the patriarch | Jul 22 20:09 |
| msb__ | Current patriarch of R.O.Church? | Jul 22 20:10 |
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| XRevan86 | msb__: yup | Jul 22 20:11 |
| msb__ | Currently Putin's worst problem is attacks by the US. If most Russians are religious, and distancing himself from the Church would cause him to lose power, then his best choice is probably to stay with the church, stay in power, oppose the US, and join up with the other BRICS nations and Venezuela, etc. | Jul 22 20:14 |
| MinceR | that's ludicrous | Jul 22 20:14 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why? | Jul 22 20:15 |
| MinceR | you excuse anything and everything a dictator does by a handwave and saying that the us attacks them in some way | Jul 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | for you, it's a universal excuse for doing anything | Jul 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | it's like nobody who lives in or near russia mattered except putin and his buddies | Jul 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | apparently "attacking" a dictatorship is the worst crime you can imagine | Jul 22 20:17 |
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| MinceR | apparently human rights and "real democracy" don't matter if you can sacrifice those just to stick it to the US | Jul 22 20:18 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks. Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine? | Jul 22 20:18 |
| MinceR | you really should look into north korea, they seem to match your ideology better. | Jul 22 20:18 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks. | Jul 22 20:18 |
| MinceR | please stop your putler propaganda. | Jul 22 20:19 |
| MinceR | please stop propping up dictatorships | Jul 22 20:19 |
| MinceR | please stop distorting the facts and outright lying for the purpose of propping up dictatorships | Jul 22 20:19 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine? | Jul 22 20:19 |
| MinceR | i don't think the us installed a nazi government in ukraine. | Jul 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | putitin | Jul 22 20:20 |
| MinceR | i don't think the government of ukraine is anywhere near as close to being nazis as putler is. | Jul 22 20:20 |
| MinceR | i don't think the government of ukraine is even anywhere near as close to being nazis as orban and his pals are. | Jul 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Orban is quite bad | Jul 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe as bad as the Ukrainian gov. | Jul 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | which bombs its own cities | Jul 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | The Russians have some offensive words by which to allude to Ukranians | Jul 22 20:21 |
| MinceR | and i don't think that holding a "referendum" at gunpoint is "real democracy". | Jul 22 20:22 |
| MinceR | they probably had such words even before the holodomor | Jul 22 20:22 |
| schestowitz | that would be crimea | Jul 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | putitin is evil | Jul 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | but he hasn't a monopoly on being evil | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | the french and us did that in haiti, I think | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | there's a lot of evil on this world | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | and if two factions oppose each other, one faction being clearly evil doesn't make the other one good | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | many people lack the mental capability to understand this fact | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | hence hungarians supporting fidesz for the sole reason that they're convinced mszp is evil | Jul 22 20:24 |
| MinceR | (which they probably are, but it doesn't follow.) | Jul 22 20:24 |
| MinceR | russia opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good. | Jul 22 20:24 |
| MinceR | north korea opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good. | Jul 22 20:25 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: So Putitin attacked Pussy. That's pretty good! | Jul 22 20:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, down with everyone who attacks religion | Jul 22 20:25 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 22 20:25 |
| *MinceR seems to remember some things msb__ said about "JCI religion" | Jul 22 20:25 | |
| *MinceR wonders what putin would think about those things | Jul 22 20:25 | |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please try to remember: I have never said that Putin is the ideal leader. But the US has destroyed Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya and murdered more than 2,000,000 people since 2001. | Jul 22 20:28 |
| MinceR | the US has also upheld the principles of democracy to a greater degree than russia ever has. | Jul 22 20:29 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Putin and others are trying to stop that with economic alliances and by protecting Russians in east Ukraine. | Jul 22 20:29 |
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| MinceR | no, they're trying no such things | Jul 22 20:29 |
| MinceR | putin is trying to re-establish the russian empire | Jul 22 20:29 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No. Democracy in the US is nearly a total fraud. | Jul 22 20:29 |
| MinceR | msb__: democracy in russia is a total fraud. | Jul 22 20:30 |
| MinceR | there still is some freedom of speech in the US and it's at least considered in words to be a good idea. | Jul 22 20:30 |
| MinceR | in russia, there's brutal censorship | Jul 22 20:30 |
| MinceR | the us has a two-party system. russia has a one-party system. | Jul 22 20:31 |
| msb__ | Both US parties are run by wealthy oligarchs. | Jul 22 20:32 |
| MinceR | russia is run by wealthy oligarchs controlled by putin. | Jul 22 20:32 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: How democratic is Russia? Is there freedom of speech? | Jul 22 20:32 |
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| MinceR | msb__: you could test it by saying the truth about christianity publicly on russian soil. :> | Jul 22 20:33 |
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| MinceR | msb__: you might also want to look into how russia and the us tolerates homosexuals | Jul 22 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: Not much. No, there is no freedom of speech. | Jul 22 20:34 |
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| MinceR | XRevan86: do russians speak of freedom of speech as if it were an important value for them and their country? | Jul 22 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People stopped caring about anything a long time ago. | Jul 22 20:36 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: Has Putin improved the Russian economy over the way Yeltsin left it? | Jul 22 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: He did. | Jul 22 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | It sucks much less now. | Jul 22 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: I have a PC you know :D. | Jul 22 20:45 |
| msb__ | How big is your display? | Jul 22 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: 20'' | Jul 22 20:46 |
| msb__ | Good! | Jul 22 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Is there a market or even a need for Android PCs? - SlashGear | Jul 22 21:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | depends on the user. I know some for whom it'll | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | be enough | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n783v | Jul 22 21:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starts with the Uno http://t.co/OlWysNC8sk | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7870 | Jul 22 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone starts with the Uno | Tux Machines | Jul 22 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.1 Lollipop Launched http://t.co/0NoYze1tYu | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7872 | Jul 22 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android 5.1 Lollipop Launched | Tux Machines | Jul 22 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Is there a market or even a need for Android | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs? http://t.co/lrnmxSTqKK | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7873 | Jul 22 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is there a market or even a need for Android PCs? | Tux Machines | Jul 22 21:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/124752050212/a-wise-man-observed-that-wealth-is-a-tool-of#_=_ | Jul 22 21:45 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: I don't understand that comic. Calvin is the kid, so the blind bully is Muad'Dib? But Muad'Dib is the spiritual hero of Dune. | Jul 22 22:10 |
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| MinceR | no, calvin is muad'dib | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Ttqe8RfHzk | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 22 22:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7877 | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach & Clear | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games, Interstellaria And TIS-100 Now On GOG | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux https://t.co/dAFjOKtHNy | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 22 22:11 |
| MinceR | though occasionally hobbes is muad'dib instead | Jul 22 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78iy | Jul 22 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach & Clear Games, Interstellaria And TIS-100 Now On GOG For Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jul 22 22:11 | |
| MinceR | like here: http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/96920417284/every-sense-you-possess-is-an-instrument-for#_=_ | Jul 22 22:12 |
| MinceR | except i'm not sure if that's muad'dib | Jul 22 22:13 |
| MinceR | looks like both are Leto II | Jul 22 22:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 22 22:13 |
| msb__ | I love Calvin & Hobbes and Dune, but that combination of them doesn't make a lot of sense, except as a lawsuit waiting to happen. | Jul 22 22:17 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, xchat was flashing but I can't see any message | Jul 22 22:17 |
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| MinceR | i think it's nice | Jul 22 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: You're still using xchat instead of a living fork? :) | Jul 22 22:18 |
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| cubexyz | XRevan86, sometimes I use ircii on quasijarus | Jul 22 22:19 |
| MinceR | and they did got harrassed with a DMCA "notification" | Jul 22 22:19 |
| cubexyz | what fork? | Jul 22 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: HexChat | Jul 22 22:19 |
| MinceR | shit like that is killing our culture | Jul 22 22:19 |
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| cubexyz | XRevan86, did you know that yandex has working repos for openbsd 2.0? | Jul 22 22:20 |
| cubexyz | pretty cool | Jul 22 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: You mean mirrors? | Jul 22 22:20 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, I guess | Jul 22 22:21 |
| cubexyz | what's the difference? | Jul 22 22:21 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Not an original content %) | Jul 22 22:21 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: mirror.yandex.ru is pretty cool, yeah. | Jul 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | i wonder what backdoors they build in there | Jul 22 22:21 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how much did they pay for hacking GPG keys. | Jul 22 22:21 |
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| cubexyz | well I suppose it's possible | Jul 22 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Testing Fedora Cloud image with | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd-networkd http://t.co/DhNEnophMy | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Testing Fedora Cloud image with systemd-networkd | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (kushaldas.in) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78o9 | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8R7sPB4AY0 (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78ob | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer - Tizen Experts | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another digest from Polariland | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1RZDXV1WsP (blogs.gnome.org) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2015/07/22/another-digest-from-polariland/ ) | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78oc | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME To Do 3.17.4 http://t.co/SjoFv45qal | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | GNOME To Do 3.17.4 | Georges Stavracas | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (feaneron.com) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78oe | Jul 22 22:25 |
| MinceR | i suppose if it has valid signatures from the openbsd team then it's probably legit | Jul 22 22:26 |
| cubexyz | looks like the Saudia Arabian mirror is the same | Jul 22 22:26 |
| cubexyz | almost every mirror dumped 4.7 | Jul 22 22:28 |
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| cubexyz | Costa Rica has back to 4.3 | Jul 22 22:29 |
| cubexyz | 4.7 is only 2010, it's not that old | Jul 22 22:30 |
| cubexyz | I think lftp can calculate how big a directory is | Jul 22 22:36 |
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| cubexyz | 27 gigs? | Jul 22 22:38 |
| cubexyz | yes, it must be about that | Jul 22 22:39 |
| cubexyz | of course that's just i386 | Jul 22 22:40 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if vax is any different in size | Jul 22 22:41 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: MinceR: Here is a long article by some Russians about Putin's strategy regarding Ukraine. Of course they consider the US-backed coup in Ukraine to have installed a Nazi government, as do all alternative news services. http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=14600 | Jul 22 22:42 |
| MinceR | what do they consider putin? | Jul 22 22:42 |
| msb__ | A leader doing his best to oppose US aggression. | Jul 22 22:42 |
| cubexyz | vax is less than 1 gig | Jul 22 22:43 |
| MinceR | interesting how they do not see the nazi in their own home | Jul 22 22:45 |
| MinceR | then again, there are millions of such idiots in hungary, too | Jul 22 22:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: you do know that the Nazi govt in Ukraine shot down that Malaysian airliner, right? | Jul 22 22:45 |
| cubexyz | well windows is the most "popular" OS | Jul 22 22:45 |
| MinceR | i do know that putler and his fans claim they did | Jul 22 22:45 |
| cubexyz | that wouldn't happen unless people were lazy or stupid | Jul 22 22:45 |
| cubexyz | no firefox, no wesnoth, no openoffice for vax | Jul 22 22:47 |
| cubexyz | so it's way smaller | Jul 22 22:48 |
| msb__ | There are pictures of metal pieces of the plane showing punctures coming from both sides. That can only have been from cannon fire from the two Ukrainian fighter jets that peoiple saw on both sides of the jetliner. Shrapnel from a Russian missile would have made holes coming only from one direction. | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/LpJptDF83O (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78xc | Jul 22 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 22 22:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | needs your help http://t.co/BMquLDOxth | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mitya57.me) | Jul 22 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mitya57.me | GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, needs your help - mitya57’s weblog | Jul 22 22:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78xe | Jul 22 22:48 |
| MinceR | tell us about 9/11 too, please | Jul 22 22:49 |
| cubexyz | it's better we stick to tech stuff | Jul 22 22:49 |
| MinceR | yeah, it would be better | Jul 22 22:49 |
| MinceR | but msb__ insists on supporting his favorite dictator regularly | Jul 22 22:49 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Sure: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 Five excellent videos plus my own pages. | Jul 22 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Jul 22 22:51 | |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop the personal attacks. | Jul 22 22:51 |
| MinceR | msb__: please stop the bullshit. | Jul 22 22:52 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What bullshit? | Jul 22 22:52 |
| MinceR | mainly the one about putler | Jul 22 22:52 |
| MinceR | but also the one about 9/11, chemtrails and reptilians | Jul 22 22:53 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What bullshit about Putin? | Jul 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | there are enough real issues without inventing fake ones | Jul 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | that he's a democrat, that he supports freedom of speech and other human rights, that opposing the usa justifies oppressing one's own people and taking over nearby countries | Jul 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | the usual bullshit. | Jul 22 22:54 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never said any such things. I've only said that Putin is doing a good job of trying to block US aggression, which has murdered millions of people. | Jul 22 22:55 |
| MinceR | that's like saying hitler did a good job of trying to block allied aggression by having the people murdered himself instead | Jul 22 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bad analogy that is. | Jul 22 22:56 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jul 22 22:56 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never advocated the existence of reptilians either. Where did you come up with that? | Jul 22 22:57 |
| MinceR | i expected that to follow, in the usual progression of lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit | Jul 22 22:57 |
| msb__ | MinceR: As to 9/11 and chemtrails, if you claim they are fake, you simply don't know what you are talking about. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | also, before you start mouthing off about who killed how many millions, i recommend looking up the stats for some of your idols. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | like stalin and mao zedong. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| msb__ | MinceR: They are not my idols at all. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | i can tell. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: US govt surely did that. | Jul 22 22:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: oh, that's fine, that completely excuses north korea, then. | Jul 22 22:59 |
| MinceR | oh wait, it fucking doesn't. | Jul 22 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who says anything about North Korea? | Jul 22 22:59 |
| MinceR | the same "hurr durr they're opposing the usa, the only remaining evil left in our world" narrative applies | Jul 22 23:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @btcrs favourited 'Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach &...' | Jul 22 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M: 5 small but important features | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you’re going to love http://t.co/zlNIO9G3z6 | Jul 22 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android M best features, tricks | BGR | Jul 22 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (bgr.com) | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n791s | Jul 22 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: NK is like the worst. | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Grade Linux http://t.co/c9oMLzng0Y | Jul 22 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier Grade Linux · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n791w | Jul 22 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And pretty weak as well :) | Jul 22 23:01 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: the same applies to russia. | Jul 22 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Only to some very limited extent. | Jul 22 23:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never said that the US is the only evil remaining in the world. But, along with the Islamic psychopaths it is arming and supporting, it is murdering far more people than any other entity. | Jul 22 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | US is the most successful evil in the world. | Jul 22 23:03 |
| msb__ | Yes! | Jul 22 23:03 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i've seen what it would be like if russia was more successful than the us | Jul 22 23:03 |
| MinceR | so i'm glad russia isn't. | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kqpiQttvxp (www.linuxinsider.com) | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7934 | Jul 22 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Smartphones | LinuxInsider | Jul 22 23:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lO680FXQ0I (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7936 | Jul 22 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux Journal | Jul 22 23:04 | |
| cubexyz | I feel I should point out that the USA also invented Unix | Jul 22 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wichita State group recruits young computer | Jul 22 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | users to Linux system http://t.co/iypvgIm6Dr | Jul 22 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kansas.com | Wichita State group recruits young computer users to Linux system | The Wichita Eagle | Jul 22 23:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.kansas.com) | Jul 22 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7938 | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | and DEC PDP-11 | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | so they did good things as well | Jul 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | i feel i should point out that the greatest IT accomplishments of the USSR were copying some usian computers | Jul 22 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I thought it's K&R :) | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | not K&R | Jul 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | and that i couldn't even be a software engineer if the empire of those barbarians hadn't collapsed. | Jul 22 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not true. | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | Thompson and Ritchie | Jul 22 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: USSR failed at IT exactly when it started copying US. | Jul 22 23:05 |
| cubexyz | K&R wrote the C book | Jul 22 23:05 |
| MinceR | and that i would be considered an "enemy of the system" because i'm highly educated. | Jul 22 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: right | Jul 22 23:05 |
| cubexyz | still important of course | Jul 22 23:05 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: why did they copy the US, then? | Jul 22 23:06 |
| MinceR | (hint, hint) | Jul 22 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Because Hrusshev was Hrusshev. | Jul 22 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | Hrusŝev | Jul 22 23:06 |
| cubexyz | at least Canada can take some credit for OpenBSD | Jul 22 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapid | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubernetes deployments http://t.co/KzVgKeQlVd | Jul 22 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapid Kubernetes deployments | ZDNet | Jul 22 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n794n | Jul 22 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | * Hruŝev | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.0.9 Is the Last in the Series, | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Please Move to Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wpqKMUYc4c (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.0.9 Is the Last in the Series, Please Move to Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 22 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n794o | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Jul 22 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | Why did I put that "s" there? | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UnvpdY6uVB | Jul 22 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux « Everyday Linux User | Jul 22 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n794p | Jul 22 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | Did I forget how to pronounce Russian? :D | Jul 22 23:07 |
| cubexyz | how often do those links get posted? | Jul 22 23:07 |
| MinceR | Хрущёв | Jul 22 23:08 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: I thought you were coughing. | Jul 22 23:08 |
| cubexyz | it seems like it's every 10 minutes | Jul 22 23:08 |
| *cubexyz pulls out the chronograph | Jul 22 23:08 | |
| MinceR | msb__: you obviously don't know your history. | Jul 22 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I wonder how to show that "ё" in English | Jul 22 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe like "Hrushov" | Jul 22 23:08 |
| MinceR | in the usual english orthography, they just pretend it's the same as e | Jul 22 23:08 |
| MinceR | so they write Khrushchev | Jul 22 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, that's correct: sh is soft in English, I constantly forget about that. | Jul 22 23:09 |
| cubexyz | how do they refer to Unix in Russia? Do they just use the english word? | Jul 22 23:09 |
| MinceR | (since ё is just a special case of a stressed 'e') | Jul 22 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Of course. | Jul 22 23:09 |
| MinceR | well, the language of IT is english | Jul 22 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "ё" is not a special case of "е" | Jul 22 23:09 |
| MinceR | then my russian teacher was wrong or lying | Jul 22 23:10 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://translate.google.com/#ru/ru/ель%2C%20ёлка | Jul 22 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/n7960 ] | Jul 22 23:10 | |
| msb__ | You Russians and Hungarians spend so much time obsessing over accented and substituted letters. Speak English! It's much simpler! | Jul 22 23:11 |
| msb__ | Down with UTF-8! | Jul 22 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: Russian is so much more strict on pronouncing | Jul 22 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | guess why Russian doesn't have many accents :) | Jul 22 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | And those that exist English would hardly consider. | Jul 22 23:12 |
| cubexyz | IT isn't totally english based | Jul 22 23:13 |
| cubexyz | APL uses Greek characters | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It pretty much is. | Jul 22 23:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm trying hard to think of another example :) | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | except for freaky cases :) | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 99.9% English-based | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | not totally, yeah :D | Jul 22 23:13 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, ok :) | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | oh wait | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | 99.5% | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | there is 1C | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | A very popular Russian accounting thing | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | it has a built-in programming language | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | and it's Russian-based | Jul 22 23:14 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%81 | Jul 22 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Yo (Cyrillic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 22 23:14 | |
| MinceR | "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable." | Jul 22 23:14 |
| cubexyz | some sort of spreadsheet? | Jul 22 23:14 |
| MinceR | "The letter Yo is the seventh letter of the alphabet, but although it indicates a distinct sound from Ye, it is often, but not always, treated as the same letter for purposes of alphabetisation and sorting." | Jul 22 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | > it indicates a distinct sound from Ye | Jul 22 23:15 |
| MinceR | "Except for a brief period after World War II, the use of ⟨ё⟩ was never obligatory in standard Russian orthography. By and large, it is used only in dictionaries and in pedagogical literature intended for children and students of Russian as a second language, Otherwise ⟨е⟩ is used, and ⟨ё⟩ occurs only when it is necessary to avoid ambiguity" | Jul 22 23:15 |
| msb__ | We're a simple culture here in the US, derived from ex-cons and religious idiots. Kill! Eat! Fuck! That's all we do. | Jul 22 23:15 |
| cubexyz | genetics :) | Jul 22 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "ё" is still different from "е" very much as you can see. | Jul 22 23:16 |
| msb__ | yep! | Jul 22 23:16 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i didn't say they were the exact same thing, though | Jul 22 23:16 |
| MinceR | msb__: you forgot "Hate" | Jul 22 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A different sound | Jul 22 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | so Hrushov and Hrushev does not sound the same | Jul 22 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | do* | Jul 22 23:16 |
| msb__ | Our neighbors to the north at least have the benefit of some beaver and moose genes. | Jul 22 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "They should delete their OS-test. It’s none of | Jul 22 23:16 |
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| MinceR | the same article also mentions the weirdness in the spelling of Khrushchev and Gorbachev in english | Jul 22 23:17 |
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| XRevan86 | > stressed | Jul 22 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | (01:14:48) MinceR: "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable." | Jul 22 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I misunderstood you -_- | Jul 22 23:17 |
| MinceR | i suspected it | Jul 22 23:18 |
| cubexyz | ALGOL 68 allows internationalization of the language | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | but hopefully we're on the same page now | Jul 22 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But I know how to call "udarenie" in English :) | Jul 22 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | now | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | (i wasn't even sure "stressed" is the right term) | Jul 22 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | Now I don't :D | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 22 23:18 |
| cubexyz | so there's Cyrillic ALGOL 68 :) | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | m$ excel also translates the function names, at least in the hungarian version, which is insane | Jul 22 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If you'll manage to find this thing in 2015… | Jul 22 23:19 |
| MinceR | but it's the sort of insanity one would expect from m$ | Jul 22 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It does indeed. | Jul 22 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | LibreOffice Calc doesn't do that thankfully. | Jul 22 23:19 |
| cubexyz | and of course there's symbol based languages | Jul 22 23:20 |
| MinceR | indeed, neither does gnumeric | Jul 22 23:20 |
| XRevan86 | Funny observation: the only establishment I've been in that has stupidly smiling cashiers is McDonalds. | Jul 22 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently it's their policy. | Jul 22 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | Don't ask what I did there. | Jul 22 23:23 |
| cubexyz | well working at McDonalds must be rather stupefying | Jul 22 23:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 22 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | What I want to ask is: is this thing a norm in US? | Jul 22 23:24 |
| cubexyz | I remember one time ordering a drink at the drive-thru and they asked me if I wanted a drink with that | Jul 22 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | Constantly smiling cashiers | Jul 22 23:24 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: lol | Jul 22 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: One drink is never enough :) | Jul 22 23:25 |
| MinceR | i think there's at least one kind of coffee that's traditionally drank with some other drink (probably water) | Jul 22 23:26 |
| MinceR | plus there's Klatchian coffee on Discworld :> | Jul 22 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | Because I don't trust these smiles at all. And so I see lies instead of trustworthiness. | Jul 22 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | and from what I know, nobody does :) | Jul 22 23:27 |
| cubexyz | just imagine a smiling Bill Gates telling you to trust Microsoft :) | Jul 22 23:27 |
| MinceR | i don't see any reason to decide whether to trust them, they're largely irrelevant | Jul 22 23:27 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty simple deal: they get money, i get food | Jul 22 23:27 |
| cubexyz | "do you want fries with that?" | Jul 22 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But they want me to think something. | Jul 22 23:28 |
| cubexyz | I never go there nowadays | Jul 22 23:28 |
| cubexyz | yes damn it, I want extra fries with my fries and a drink with my drink | Jul 22 23:28 |
| msb__ | Corporations have only one obligation: maximize the profits of their shareholders. So they are the economic equivalents of psychopaths. | Jul 22 23:29 |
| MinceR | those are public corporations | Jul 22 23:30 |
| MinceR | private corporations are not obligated to be evil | Jul 22 23:30 |
| msb__ | A bit of an exaggeration. They aren't all evil. | Jul 22 23:30 |
| MinceR | i thought we were talking about legal obligations to be evil, not actual evilness :> | Jul 22 23:33 |
| msb__ | MinceR: You consider some information, like 9-11 and chemtrail/HAARP research, to be "lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit" simply because it differs from mainstream beliefs. But many people would consider your support of Linux, and especially your detailed opposition to systemd, to be "nutcase bullshit". But you and we know that it isn't. In a world where most people are programmed to live within "The Matrix", differing from | Jul 22 23:47 |
| msb__ | mainstream thought is not a reliable indicator of falsity. That's why critical thinking requires accessing information that differs from your present beliefs. | Jul 22 23:47 |
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| cubexyz | people are overly passive | Jul 23 00:09 |
| MinceR | msb__: no, the point is not what is mainstream and what isn't. | Jul 23 00:12 |
| MinceR | msb__: has it ever occurred to you that "mainstream thought" is not the only thing that critical thinking can debunk? | Jul 23 00:13 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Of course. It is the key to _accurate_ thinking. | Jul 23 00:14 |
| MinceR | for example, i've seen and considered both sides of the 9/11 debate. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| msb__ | Have you watched all 5 videos linked on my homepage? | Jul 23 00:16 |
| MinceR | no | Jul 23 00:16 |
| msb__ | I think you should. You are obviously a very smart guy. I think they will convince you. | Jul 23 00:17 |
| msb__ | The govt story of 9-11 falls apart in many different ways. | Jul 23 00:19 |
| MinceR | so does the most loudly promoted conspiracy theory. | Jul 23 00:20 |
| msb__ | Which is? | Jul 23 00:20 |
| MinceR | especially in assuming unforeseen competence in the government when it comes to keeping stuff secret | Jul 23 00:20 |
| MinceR | missiles, controlled demolition, thermite, stuff like that | Jul 23 00:21 |
| cubexyz | does motif mwm have a way to run a program not on the menu? | Jul 23 00:24 |
| msb__ | Current thought is that missiles were not involved. All three WTC buildings -- 1, 2, and 7 -- meet all the criteria for controlled demolition, and steel-frame buildings simply do not fall down from cool smoky fires.. The thermite flakes were found in dust samples and chemically analyzed by several different techniques, and shown to burn like thermite. | Jul 23 00:25 |
| MinceR | who placed the demolition charges and when? how were they not noticed? how did they have time to do that in secret? | Jul 23 00:26 |
| MinceR | the steel frame sagging due to the heat (it didn't melt and it didn't have to melt) and pancaking floors is a much simpler explanation of the evidence i've seen. | Jul 23 00:27 |
| msb__ | The charges were built in when the buildings were constructed. The detonators were added shortly before 9-11. http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/#CORES | Jul 23 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments | Jul 23 00:29 | |
| MinceR | who the hell builds an office building with built-in explosives? | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | and how the hell does such an incompetent government keep that in secret? | Jul 23 00:30 |
| msb__ | "Simpler" doesn't necessarily mean correct. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | this is an incredibly unlikely hypothesis. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | a simpler explanation is more likely to be true. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor | Jul 23 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Occam's razor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n79xd ] | Jul 23 00:31 | |
| msb__ | Please read the evidence I've directed you to. | Jul 23 00:31 |
| msb__ | Of course I know about Occam's Razor. So does the US government. | Jul 23 00:31 |
| msb__ | They rely on people believing it absolutely. "The buildings fell because planes hit them, you idiot!" | Jul 23 00:32 |
| MinceR | i'm definitely not going to take on the obligation to wade through such a mass of such badly presented material this week. | Jul 23 00:32 |
| MinceR | "fact" 1 ignores the amount of air present between floors | Jul 23 00:33 |
| msb__ | How? | Jul 23 00:34 |
| MinceR | a floor falling on top of another (due to the steel supports holding them apart losing most of their strength) would expel the air between them | Jul 23 00:35 |
| MinceR | hence, sideways force. | Jul 23 00:36 |
| msb__ | There were no cannon barrels to direct the compressed air to the 10-ton girders in order to propel them horizontally at 70 miles/hour. | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | there was furniture, though | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | and interior walls | Jul 23 00:37 |
| msb__ | So? | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | those could have helped focus the force on the occasional girder. | Jul 23 00:38 |
| msb__ | How? By magic? | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | no, physics | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | fact 3 is interesting -- i've heard other conspiracy theories _expecting_ molten metal and _denying_ it was present | Jul 23 00:39 |
| msb__ | Have you taken courses in physics? Are you familiar with F=ma? | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | i have. | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | and you're removing my interest in this subject currently. | Jul 23 00:40 |
| msb__ | How? | Jul 23 00:40 |
| msb__ | How could furniture or wallboard focus compressed air on a ten-ton girder to accelerate it to 70mph? | Jul 23 00:42 |
| MinceR | that only depends on the pressure and amount of air | Jul 23 00:43 |
| msb__ | It also depends on the air not being able to flow in many other directions, instead of pressing only on the girder. | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | That | Jul 23 00:45 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | That's why cannons are cylinders open only at one end. | Jul 23 00:45 |
| MinceR | though even that would only reduce the pressure | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | yes -- indeed | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: If I go to the effort of figuring out the units for a ten ton girder being accelerated to 70mph, and it turns out to be an impossibly high pressure, will you promise to view all 5 videos, and read the linked pages on Chris Brown's site? | Jul 23 00:49 |
| MinceR | i won't promise that | Jul 23 00:49 |
| MinceR | also it seems to me that the different sides claim different evidence is present, and i have no way of figuring out which is correct. | Jul 23 00:50 |
| msb__ | That's where an understanding of physics comes in. And critical thinking. | Jul 23 00:52 |
| MinceR | i see here a video that claims explosions were heard. i do not wish to listen to it at this time | Jul 23 00:53 |
| MinceR | i've seen a video where they weren't heard. | Jul 23 00:53 |
| MinceR | since i wasn't there, there's no way for me to determine which is true. | Jul 23 00:54 |
| msb__ | Do you think somebody faked the video? What about the fireman imitating the explosion sounds? | Jul 23 00:55 |
| cubexyz | how was WTC heated? | Jul 23 00:56 |
| MinceR | well, either one of them is interpreted incorrectly, or both are; or one of them is fake, or both are | Jul 23 00:57 |
| msb__ | Genghis Khan and the Mongol Hordes had cannons. But that was in 1215AD. I thought they were much older. Anyhow, they used cylindrical cannon barrels, not gunpowder, a cannon ball and some random furniture. | Jul 23 00:57 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: by cold fusion | Jul 23 00:58 |
| MinceR | that would be because the furniture approach would be very inefficient for this purpose | Jul 23 00:58 |
| MinceR | that doesn't mean it can't happen, it means you can accomplish the same ends with far less resources if that's your intent. | Jul 23 00:59 |
| msb__ | Yes, and even less efficient for a ten ton girder! | Jul 23 00:59 |
| MinceR | also, what is our source for the girder being embedded into an adjacent building or whatever it was embedded into? | Jul 23 00:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Only if The Force you can harness! | Jul 23 00:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know off hand. But their speed can be measured from the video. | Jul 23 01:01 |
| MinceR | only if you know their distance from the camera | Jul 23 01:01 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: the question has never come up. Probably electric heating. | Jul 23 01:01 |
| cubexyz | msb__, I think they used steam | Jul 23 01:02 |
| cubexyz | not positive though | Jul 23 01:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No, you know the width of the building and the distance between floors. | Jul 23 01:02 |
| MinceR | also, the claim about the C4-"like" plastic is suspicious | Jul 23 01:02 |
| msb__ | I trust Chris, and a few other people recall seeing the video also. | Jul 23 01:03 |
| msb__ | There's no reason why an anti-corrosion coating would be extremely flammable. | Jul 23 01:04 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jul 23 01:04 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, heating it may release some nasty, toxic fumes | Jul 23 01:04 |
| msb__ | The welders would just place some kind of heat sink between the weld and the coating (which would not extend to the ends of the rebars). | Jul 23 01:06 |
| MinceR | that would help in the 'fumes' case | Jul 23 01:06 |
| MinceR | then again, i'm not in any way trained for welding | Jul 23 01:07 |
| msb__ | and it would keep the plastique from catching fire. | Jul 23 01:07 |
| MinceR | also, a chemical compound being "like" another does not mean it behaves similarly | Jul 23 01:08 |
| msb__ | You know that C4 doesn't explode if you just light it. You have to use a detonator to create a highspeed shockwave. | Jul 23 01:08 |
| MinceR | yeah, i faintly remember something like that | Jul 23 01:09 |
| msb__ | Using a primary explosive instead of a secondary one in that application would be ridiculously stupid. | Jul 23 01:09 |
| msb__ | I read that GIs would sometimes light a cube of C4 to cook their dinner. | Jul 23 01:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 01:10 |
| MinceR | and indeed C-4 contains synthetic rubber as a binder, but that's not explosive | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_%28explosive%29 | Jul 23 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | C-4 (explosive) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n7a9z ] | Jul 23 01:12 | |
| msb__ | Fried Spam tastes pretty good, actually. | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | i've had fried luncheon meat (not spam brand, though) | Jul 23 01:12 |
| msb__ | melts out much of the fat | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | fat contributes to the sense of taste | Jul 23 01:13 |
| msb__ | There's still plenty left. | Jul 23 01:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 01:13 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Fattiness | Jul 23 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Taste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n7aal ] | Jul 23 01:13 | |
| MinceR | apparently it's still in debate | Jul 23 01:13 |
| msb__ | I think it's an excuse by butchers and grocers to sell you fat. I like the taste of purely lean meat. | Jul 23 01:14 |
| cubexyz | spam has that unique spam taste | Jul 23 01:41 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll get to try it someday | Jul 23 01:42 |
| cubexyz | it seems no one wrote a clipboard manager mwm | Jul 23 01:54 |
| MinceR | those were simpler times :> | Jul 23 01:54 |
| cubexyz | looks like sourceforce is back at least | Jul 23 01:54 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge | Jul 23 01:55 |
| cubexyz | ha, there actually is one | Jul 23 02:02 |
| cubexyz | cutview | Jul 23 02:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.users.uswest.net/~hmahon/sources/cutview-1.69.src.tgz | Jul 23 02:03 |
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| cubexyz | ok, no more messing around | Jul 23 02:28 |
| cubexyz | the future is here: | Jul 23 02:28 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 02:31 |
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| amarsh04 | and even Netware for VAX/VMS at one stage | Jul 23 03:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, | Jul 23 08:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, and UFS Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes | Jul 23 08:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes to the RSS Miner | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SusanPickin/status/624122344571805696 | Jul 23 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SusanPickin: @schestowitz @IPDraughts wonder why that is - make it easier? | Jul 23 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624072915110080512 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077492370935808 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077933674635264 | Jul 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: .@GetUpStandUp2 @PublicEd4Bernie @AJC4others @SenSanders @BadassTeachersA @Women4Bernie "Bill Gates ... Monsanto ..." http://t.co/63qHn7ccfW | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance by philanthropist and accounting expert http://t.co/MokXcXGymy See what into! | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn invests Pharma patent Tobacco Alcoholic beverages Petroleum Experimental controversial crops evn news/media http://t.co/WGvRZG8rtE | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079229475356672 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079929903222784 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624080527608315904 | Jul 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Need not pay tax tho keeps control of assets, use 2 control influence private, public policy http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f See what Bill #Gates n2! | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance Maintain investments & use to control Even news/media! http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation shell 4 tax avoidance? Invests in news / media used to control? http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f ie #Monsanto #GMO #BernieBlackout? | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081167927648256 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081604101672960 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081951490723840 | Jul 23 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn dependence/lock-in cascades down 2 businesses homes Creates revenue wd not exist n free market & Pay 0 tax? http://t.co/bctIFfEWhV | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates also able bring public money to himself through energy & public health policy - and Pays no tax? http://t.co/ducmpsEIHS #Monsanto #GMO | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "As Gates has diversified, his corrupting influence has spread to other portions of the economy." http://t.co/kb8yA8lbRI See what Bill into! | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624082753332617220 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624084936107139072 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624087193678651392 | Jul 23 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House .... under the guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/E1crfghQAr | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill .... Gates Foundation ... private front group (2 advance his 4 profit interests) guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/QhzsEV51EU | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "(Bill) Gates not only plutocrat ... camouflage his agenda ...but probably the biggest .... charities ... a sham .... http://t.co/dwkaJP97gK | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624089571698081796 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624114416548773888 | Jul 23 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates self-feeding money vacuums call4 taxpayer money, explains 2 public Y not harm integrity or real charities http://t.co/JPBWUmUiy5 | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates... Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education http://t.co/xiwnTE83kr #BillGates #GMO #glyphosate #cancer | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation, Clinton Ties, and Control of Education | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Silver_Lake_Partners | Jul 23 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sourcewatch.org | Silver Lake Partners - SourceWatch [ http://ur1.ca/n7dqa ] | Jul 23 08:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624170431633821696 | Jul 23 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz that sounds like one of Newton's laws! Should we call it Schestowitz's First Law of Computer Security??😀 | Jul 23 11:57 | |
| schestowitz | It's more to do with spam than security. Maybe we can learn how serious and widespread back doors are based on volume of spam :-) | Jul 23 11:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624173536572276736 | Jul 23 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I agree. There was a time before the web when we used to crave for news. Now we are overwhelmed by spam and crave credibility | Jul 23 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | Paper scarcity | Jul 23 12:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624174961742245888 https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624175451708239872 | Jul 23 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz actually, he only got fired from Fox Business. He's still a contributor to Fox News. IMHO, it was publicity for his book. | Jul 23 12:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and the number of spam invites has increased substantially | Jul 23 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In | Jul 23 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian/Ubuntu http://t.co/DkU3EhfpHm | Jul 23 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In Debian/Ubuntu - Phoronix | Jul 23 12:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624177732016996352 | Jul 23 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Establishment/institutionalised #racism as practiced in #Mexico by the #SpanishScum is as corrosive as overt display https://t.co/MMNQkHtlhI | Jul 23 12:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Establishment/institutionalised racism treated with far more tolerance than personal/individual racism as if might(or magnitude)makes right | Jul 23 12:23 | |
| schestowitz | in Philippines (still called under the occupier) too | Jul 23 12:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624179575950409728 | Jul 23 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: + #Colombia, #Honduras, #Guatemala, #Chile… generally any colony where there is a #Spanish-descended clique in power https://t.co/q2OGWHFrZt | Jul 23 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT in Philippines (still called under the occupier) too | Jul 23 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | Well, now they have economic issues too.... about time | Jul 23 12:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624182341292830720 | Jul 23 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's unbelievable but true. I still wonder how did #Spain waste *all* of 300+ years of #plundering 'Latin'America https://t.co/Q5uksU8Elf | Jul 23 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT Well, now they have economic issues too.... about time | Jul 23 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | It still does to a degree, I think. Look whose blood the richest families have. | Jul 23 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, and UFS Improvements, Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Jul 23 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes | Jul 23 12:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes to the RSS Miner - Softpedia | Jul 23 12:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A guide for community management from Jono | Jul 23 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide for community management from Jono Bacon | Tux Machines | Jul 23 12:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now | Tux Machines | Jul 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Orca Open-Source Screen Reader Implements | Jul 23 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Speech Support for MathML Content | Jul 23 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Orca Open-Source Screen Reader Implements Speech Support for MathML Content - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi Hotspot | Jul 23 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu Touch | Jul 23 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi Hotspot (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu Touch - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | systemd evolving - DevOps Reactions [ http://ur1.ca/n7fk7 ] | Jul 23 13:22 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Movie studios keep asking Google to remove pirated content on their own computers [ http://ur1.ca/n7fur ] | Jul 23 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick | Jul 23 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on the 2GB Intel Compute Stick - Liliputing | Jul 23 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Intel Compute Stick Review: The Shape of Things to Come | NDTV Gadgets | Jul 23 14:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneylife.in | Computing with a Stick! - Moneylife | Jul 23 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com | A guide to PC sticks: What can they actually do? | Jul 23 14:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux | Jul 23 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.1.3 LTS http://t.co/Er52QbRMpF | Jul 23 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 23 14:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to ruin an open source project: Let me | Jul 23 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | count the ways http://t.co/aN9Jq7Mx4C | Jul 23 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to ruin an open source project: Let me count the ways | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade | Jul 23 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu 15.04 Now http://t.co/VcUJVAvbZ5 | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 Now | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policy | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games | Jul 23 15:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | machines coming http://t.co/nQNz5I7pZa | Jul 23 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games - Softpedia | Jul 23 15:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcr-online.biz | Everything tech dealers need to know about Steam Machine | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail | Jul 23 15:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important | Jul 23 15:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One | Jul 23 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Releases Code http://t.co/jtbLrpWlmk | Jul 23 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One Releases Code | Techrights | Jul 23 15:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Devices | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell | Jul 23 15:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell Intervention | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/hOFPQUpRYa | Jul 23 15:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:08 | |
| MinceR | http://kotaku.com/pro-tip-dont-copy-battlefield-3-stingers-1719695507 | Jul 23 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Pro-Tip: Don't Copy Battlefield 3 Stingers [ http://ur1.ca/n7gme ] | Jul 23 15:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220690992869376 https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220794940293120 | Jul 23 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz 📡📡📡 Super Scary https://t.co/1NbsMtlEZV #1984 #Security #Privacy | Jul 23 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.m.wikipedia.org | Telescreen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 23 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZ | Jul 23 15:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/624222740451430400 | Jul 23 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz that makes their message immediately suspicious anyways .. | Jul 23 15:21 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/M9ZArbg.png | Jul 23 15:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really if that was done for Australia it would lot more screwballed. | Jul 23 15:54 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember pinegap setup is one of the biggest existing data collectors. | Jul 23 15:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap | Jul 23 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pine Gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 23 15:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: weclome to legal stupid. Its not legal for lots of USA intelegence groups to spy inside the USA or on USA based cits. There is absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request. | Jul 23 15:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 23 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 17:26 | |
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| msb_ | "absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request." Definitely a moral problem though since our govt does not represent us American citizens at all. | Jul 23 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/624290195110776832 | Jul 23 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz https://t.co/KK4XAD8vq3 | Jul 23 20:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyT | Jul 23 20:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/4s814jpylm | Jul 23 20:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 20:54 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/22/os_x_root_hole/ | Jul 23 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Get root on an OS X 10.10 Mac: The exploit is so trivial it fits in a tweet • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/n7k00 ] | Jul 23 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624316859421077504 | Jul 23 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's been a long time since I went to speak at any conference | Jul 23 21:36 | |
| schestowitz | I always found that to be a waste of time myself, for several reasons | Jul 23 21:36 |
| schestowitz | It's an old habit, like publishing paper, assuming no Internet and paper scarcity; same with gatherings like conferences | Jul 23 21:37 |
| cubexyz | the net is a bit nebulous though | Jul 23 21:40 |
| cubexyz | anything important should be printed out | Jul 23 21:41 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge isn't 100%, repos disappear, accidents happen | Jul 23 21:42 |
| MinceR | sourceforge is shit | Jul 23 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2FDfNB2Qdh (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version - Softpedia | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | India http://t.co/vqqfHtsF8I | Jul 23 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infotechlead.com | Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in India | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infotechlead.com) https://t.co/pltOYbj4QH | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Jul 23 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Training Kicks Off $79 Pricing for India | Linux.com | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Jul 23 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HIG updates http://t.co/efGkVajxDc | Jul 23 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HIG updates | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines France publishes free software procurement | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | templates http://t.co/R3D1r3vGBB | Jul 23 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France publishes free software procurement templates | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Training for India http://t.co/3fwXDMyzZn | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation Training for India | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624323377126203392 | Jul 23 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz well historically I would not speak at confs that were not free/open to public, so rarely did so in US generally | Jul 23 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | What about libreplanet? | Jul 23 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How I finally got permission to use my own | Jul 23 22:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mvKEwEgvMB (opensource.com) | Jul 23 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Jay LaCroix shares his Linux story | Opensource.com | Jul 23 22:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyT | Jul 23 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 23 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:06 | |
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| cubexyz | it's interesting that all these conversion stories seem to be from win-some-vesion to Linux | Jul 23 22:12 |
| cubexyz | the true story of what happened is more like this: | Jul 23 22:14 |
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| cubexyz | Bell Labs Unix -> BSD -> SunOS/AT&T Unix Sys V/and derivatives | Jul 23 22:16 |
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| cubexyz | then later on Minix | Jul 23 22:16 |
| cubexyz | after that then Linux | Jul 23 22:16 |
| cubexyz | so this experience of win98 to Linux isn't universal | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FiT5jZIMFi (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes - Softpedia | Jul 23 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on | Jul 23 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on Twitter - Softpedia | Jul 23 22:17 | |
| cubexyz | it's just sad that so many folks' first computer experience was some version of windows | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.17.4 http://t.co/iKKNhTgfIp | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (permalink.gmane.org) | Jul 23 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.17.4 | Jul 23 22:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624327240923222016 | Jul 23 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz that was among the rare exceptions ;. I had spoken at a few of them actually. | Jul 23 22:18 | |
| cubexyz | Xerox had a multi-lingual system in the 1980s | Jul 23 22:18 |
| cubexyz | IBM VM/SP didn't crash, VMS didn't crash, TOPS-20 same | Jul 23 22:19 |
| cubexyz | win95 was positively awful | Jul 23 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The battle between open-source and proprietary | Jul 23 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software for drone development | Jul 23 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eRehrgUuJp (sdtimes.com) | Jul 23 22:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | The battle between open-source and proprietary software for drone development - SD Times | Jul 23 22:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: man-pages-4.01 is released | Jul 23 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cef56ihwxr | Jul 23 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-man-pages.blogspot.co.uk | Linux man-pages: man-pages-4.01 is released | Jul 23 22:21 | |
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| MinceR | so was winblows nt, macos and m$-dos | Jul 23 22:21 |
| MinceR | and so's lendows | Jul 23 22:21 |
| cubexyz | there's no lendows yet | Jul 23 22:21 |
| cubexyz | let's keep it that way :) | Jul 23 22:21 |
| MinceR | there are several distributions of lendows already | Jul 23 22:22 |
| MinceR | in chronological order: fedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debian | Jul 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328015992860673 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328218779103232 | Jul 23 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz also when youre in an oppresive country it can be liberating going places that have real freedom and regard for human dignity | Jul 23 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz libreplanet is always an excellent event | Jul 23 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | US is not so low in the list, but low for Western country. Also, it's how it treats foreign countries that's most appalling. | Jul 23 22:23 |
| msb_ | PC-DOS wasn't bad. You could program in assembly, BASIC and C, do color graphics, network via modem, modify the OS by intercepting system-call interrupts with your own code. It was like a minicomputer. | Jul 23 22:25 |
| MinceR | it didn't do half of what an os is supposed to do | Jul 23 22:25 |
| MinceR | it did not abstract the hardware at all | Jul 23 22:25 |
| msb_ | Not what an OS does today, but it did what a minicomputer, like the LINC or PDP-8, did then, only much better. | Jul 23 22:26 |
| msb_ | And much cheaper. | Jul 23 22:27 |
| msb_ | IBM-PC was a great little machine. | Jul 23 22:27 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lsinger favourited 'The battle between open-source and proprietary software for...' | Jul 23 22:27 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aelog.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | aelog | Jul 23 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The GNOME 3 Human Interface Guidelines were | Jul 23 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released just under a year ago." | Jul 23 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fNSxcEhpZw (blogs.gnome.org) | Jul 23 22:28 |
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| msb_ | There was lots of good software for it, too. XTREE filemanager, BRIEF editor, and a great C compiler and runtime system whose name I can't remember. Not MS-C; that was so buggy you always had to run it with the optimizer turned off. | Jul 23 22:32 |
| MinceR | borland? watcom? | Jul 23 22:33 |
| MinceR | djgpp? | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today http://t.co/IgIkf1f1m4 (www.cio.com) | Jul 23 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to today | CIO | Jul 23 22:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How I use Android: App designer and Android | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | blogger Liam Spradlin http://t.co/tVGIZi01dn | Jul 23 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | How I use Android: App designer and Android blogger Liam Spradlin | Computerworld | Jul 23 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Jul 23 22:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Need http://t.co/HfuE7k1P02 (www.forbes.com) | Jul 23 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't Need - Forbes | Jul 23 22:33 | |
| msb_ | Right, Borland! | Jul 23 22:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/624332203548348416 | Jul 23 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Going from 64mb to 384mb must have been amazing. It makes me smile and think of my early computing breaking and fixing it. | Jul 23 22:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Engineering team opening. | Jul 23 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mLgk526O6Z (paul.frields.org) | Jul 23 22:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org | Fedora Engineering team opening. - The Grand Fallacy | Jul 23 22:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi RT: @tuxmachines: @fedora Engineering team | Jul 23 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | opening. http://t.co/RoAzZ0zbOs | Jul 23 22:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu-ready Type 6 Compact module" | Jul 23 22:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged Broadwell Type 6 COM loads up on USB, PCIe · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 23 22:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 open source storage solutions that might be | Jul 23 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | perfect for your company http://t.co/wfLuGmqe62 | Jul 23 22:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 open source storage solutions that might be perfect for your company | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.17.4 http://t.co/0k4P5BoG2u | Jul 23 22:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.17.4 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Software Commons http://t.co/KgQ5CRyDJG | Jul 23 22:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Commons | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung launches additional information | Jul 23 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | services for Tizen TV http://t.co/Dm6tkDeffs | Jul 23 22:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches additional information services for Tizen TV | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:41 | |
| cubexyz | msb_, ripping off CP/M and Kildall to create QDOS, which was used to make PC-DOS, MSDOS | Jul 23 22:47 |
| cubexyz | makes it kind of bad | Jul 23 22:47 |
| cubexyz | we should have went to Unix much earlier but the hardware wasn't quite there | Jul 23 22:48 |
| msb_ | Programming was much simpler. To put a dot on the screen you wrote the color code into the byte or half-byte corresponding to the x and y coordinates, and there it was. Now you have to go through so much middleware and toolkits I wonder if it's any faster, even with the cpu clock hundreds of times faster. | Jul 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | we could have went to unix much earlier, if ibm's management weren't a bunch of corrupt idiots | Jul 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | msb_: now programs can share a display, handle a far greater variety of GPUs and displays, take advantage of 2D and 3D acceleration, and be kept from crashing each other or the OS. | Jul 23 22:49 |
| cubexyz | I can go directly to xlib if necessary | Jul 23 22:49 |
| msb_ | Kildall was too busy flying his plane that day to respond. | Jul 23 22:50 |
| MinceR | must have been extremely urgent, to make m$-dos acceptable | Jul 23 22:50 |
| cubexyz | if I want to go back to hardware registers I have my Amiga for that | Jul 23 22:50 |
| msb_ | MinceR: yes, but with a single user and a single type of hardware you didn't need all that versatility. | Jul 23 22:50 |
| cubexyz | msb_, also we have freedos these days which is FOSS | Jul 23 22:51 |
| MinceR | msb_: even with a single user, access control and memory protection are useful | Jul 23 22:51 |
| MinceR | and i have many types of hardware | Jul 23 22:51 |
| cubexyz | yes, MMUs are good :) | Jul 23 22:51 |
| cubexyz | the ability to run a web browser, irc, and other utilities simultaneously is a big bonus | Jul 23 22:53 |
| msb_ | Every biochem lab I worked in had one kind of minicomputer. I had one kind of microcomputer. We did fine. | Jul 23 22:53 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Jul 23 22:53 |
| msb_ | Yes, the Internet is a very good thing for humanity. | Jul 23 22:54 |
| cubexyz | I like Minis, I still program them albeit via emulation | Jul 23 22:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I don't know whether many your responses are positive or sarcastic. | Jul 23 22:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 23 22:55 |
| cubexyz | and there is value in learning simpler operating systems | Jul 23 22:56 |
| cubexyz | modern ones are so complex that it makes learning some things difficult | Jul 23 22:56 |
| MinceR | especially the ones that were "designed" by people who worship unnecessary complexity | Jul 23 22:57 |
| cubexyz | also the IBM PC BIOS is well understood | Jul 23 22:59 |
| MinceR | which means it had to go | Jul 23 22:59 |
| msb_ | With the Web we finally have effective freedom of speech, with which we can reach millions of people for about $10/month for website hosting. | Jul 23 22:59 |
| MinceR | the web is being closed | Jul 23 23:00 |
| msb_ | How? | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | html5 supports DRM and recommends patent-encumbered video codecs | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | also, blobs | Jul 23 23:00 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, there's an important historical precedent with the IBM PC | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | multiple ones | Jul 23 23:00 |
| cubexyz | for the earliest version of the BIOS one used intel utilities to assembly it, not microsoft | Jul 23 23:01 |
| MinceR | the first(?) computer that was friendly to cloning | Jul 23 23:01 |
| cubexyz | shortly after version 1.0 it switched over to microsoft | Jul 23 23:01 |
| MinceR | but also m$'s big chance to destroy the IT industry | Jul 23 23:01 |
| cubexyz | well actually the Soviets cloned the PDP-11s | Jul 23 23:01 |
| msb_ | MinceR: You can create your own website and use HTML4 with no DRM. | Jul 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | but others will make their websites at least as closed as flash sites | Jul 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | to the cheers of people celebrating the death of flash, not noticing that html5 is the new flash | Jul 23 23:02 |
| msb_ | So? The important thing is that people who want to broadcast good information can do it openly. | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | for how long? | Jul 23 23:04 |
| msb_ | and simply and inexpensively. | Jul 23 23:04 |
| cubexyz | well you could complain about wmv, COM, ActiveX and .Net, DDE, ASP, etc etc | Jul 23 23:04 |
| cubexyz | the list goes on and on | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, the IT industry is full of cancer | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | and with uefi, it seems to be finally dying | Jul 23 23:04 |
| cubexyz | chromeboxes have coreboot | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | all of them? | Jul 23 23:05 |
| MinceR | i've seen one advertised with the option of an "upgrade" to vista10 | Jul 23 23:05 |
| cubexyz | probably not all of them | Jul 23 23:05 |
| MinceR | naturally, "won't run the code you write" is a "feature" that is never advertised | Jul 23 23:06 |
| cubexyz | I blogged about that, just a sec I'll find the link | Jul 23 23:07 |
| msb_ | Are there any PCs that won't run Linux due to UEFI? I thought all major distros had a way around it. | Jul 23 23:07 |
| MinceR | maybe the vista10 logo requirements will already exclude it | Jul 23 23:08 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/2015/03/easy-way-to-get-coreboot.html | Jul 23 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux: Easy Way to Get Coreboot [ http://ur1.ca/jvpo5 ] | Jul 23 23:08 | |
| MinceR | maybe canonical's and redcrap's shims (for which they paid m$) will be allowed for a while | Jul 23 23:08 |
| MinceR | and then m$ will generate a malware scare and use that as an excuse to lock them out, too | Jul 23 23:08 |
| MinceR | it's not easy to get coreboot on "intel boot guard" | Jul 23 23:09 |
| cubexyz | intel needs to work with the coreboot people to fix that | Jul 23 23:10 |
| msb_ | Corporate psychopath shitpigs have been trying for decades to kill free computing and information sharing. But clever people have always found a way around their blocks. | Jul 23 23:10 |
| MinceR | it seems that the majority is losing their desire for freedom | Jul 23 23:12 |
| MinceR | we're falling into a worldwide fascist dystopia | Jul 23 23:12 |
| msb_ | Also, we can now get little computers like Raspberry-Pi (but more powerful) for about $100 that will run Linux, get on the Net, do everything. | Jul 23 23:13 |
| MinceR | i wonder when those will be banned | Jul 23 23:13 |
| MinceR | or just replaced with the usual kind of remote-controlled zombie "computer" | Jul 23 23:13 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Why don't you just cut to the chase and wonder when everyone will be lobotomized at birth? | Jul 23 23:14 |
| msb_ | You are being very pessimistic. | Jul 23 23:14 |
| MinceR | that's interesting too | Jul 23 23:14 |
| cubexyz | my custom made PDP-11 clone will save the world :) | Jul 23 23:15 |
| msb_ | Cheer up! Smoke some cannabis. Do you have that in Hungary? | Jul 23 23:15 |
| MinceR | we probably do, but it's illegal | Jul 23 23:15 |
| MinceR | only the "white people's drugs" are allowed | Jul 23 23:16 |
| MinceR | tobacco and ethanol | Jul 23 23:16 |
| msb_ | Yes, consciousness is illegal, but you can get psychedelics even so. | Jul 23 23:16 |
| cubexyz | can't you just turn off intel boot guard? | Jul 23 23:16 |
| MinceR | afaik you can't | Jul 23 23:16 |
| cubexyz | if you own the computer... | Jul 23 23:16 |
| msb_ | Buy AMD, not Intel. | Jul 23 23:17 |
| MinceR | for how long will AMD resist this? | Jul 23 23:18 |
| cubexyz | not a great variety of choices there | Jul 23 23:18 |
| MinceR | (assuming they don't have their own shit already) | Jul 23 23:18 |
| msb_ | AMD-FX8350. The only way to fly! 8 cores, less than $200 and very fast. | Jul 23 23:18 |
| msb_ | Asus mobo, 16GB of RAM, a 3TB WD Caviar-Black disk, and a good case/PS. For less than $1,000 you have a desktop computer equal to a supercomputer of 10-20 years ago. | Jul 23 23:24 |
| msb_ | Or if you're a kid on a low budget, $100 buys a Linux Net-ready SBC. | Jul 23 23:25 |
| msb_ | ...a supercomputer that cost $10,000,000 | Jul 23 23:26 |
| msb_ | All stemming from Gutenberg and the printing press. | Jul 23 23:28 |
| msb_ | Now we print supercomputers on silicon chips. | Jul 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | i wish we really did | Jul 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | but it's just 'they' for now | Jul 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | you'd have to use TTL chips to make your own CPU | Jul 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | possible but difficult | Jul 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | or I guess you could use relays | Jul 23 23:30 |
| msb_ | The ultra-VLSI technology exists. Some country is going to make supercomputer chips with it and sell them because they want the business. | Jul 23 23:32 |
| msb_ | Like China. | Jul 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | there's cheap FPGA boards now | Jul 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | so we are getting there | Jul 23 23:33 |
| msb_ | Maybe it will have to be smuggled in. "Hey, meester, you want Raspberry-Pi? I got, cheap." | Jul 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | countries didn't even want the business of selling laptops with GNU/Linux enough | Jul 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | there's more money in selling shiny crap that doesn't work. | Jul 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | even EeePCs were only sold in this hellhole with winblows | Jul 23 23:34 |
| msb_ | In a way, it's good that some important things that people want, are illegal. It induces people to become minor outlaws, and teaches them that government is a bunch of psychopaths out to control and rob them. | Jul 23 23:35 |
| MinceR | it also makes those things less safe and a lot more costly | Jul 23 23:36 |
| msb_ | Maybe Goddess created Earth to train the faithful. | Jul 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | then again, the IT industry has been controlled by criminals for a while already | Jul 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | m$, crApple | Jul 23 23:37 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Yes, most software that people buy and have is crap, because that's what they're offerred if they naively walk into a store. | Jul 23 23:38 |
| msb_ | But if they know about FOSS, they can get something good. | Jul 23 23:39 |
| msb_ | And even with the crap, on the Net they can learn about FOSS. | Jul 23 23:39 |
| cubexyz | there's not many computer stores I like nowadays | Jul 23 23:40 |
| msb_ | If you go into a forest and start chewing on random plants, you will be disappointed. But if you know where to look, you can find yummy food. | Jul 23 23:41 |
| msb_ | The life-task of people who know better, like us, is to teach and turn-on people who don't. | Jul 23 23:42 |
| msb_ | That's why we're here! | Jul 23 23:43 |
| cubexyz | probably there's a linux store in Toronto somewhere | Jul 23 23:43 |
| cubexyz | wow, they're selling P4 computers for $20 :) | Jul 23 23:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.eused.ca/Pricelist.htm | Jul 23 23:44 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 23:45 |
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| msb_ | All these psychopaths and governments and other difficulties on Earth do induce people to evolve personally. | Jul 23 23:48 |
| msb_ | Maybe Frank Herbert was talking about Earth when he wrote that about Dune. He wrote about psychedelics in some of his books. | Jul 23 23:49 |
| msb_ | I'll have to remember that. It's the canonical cure for depression. | Jul 23 23:51 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, some of that stuff is impossible | Jul 23 23:53 |
| MinceR | like the genetic memories in humans | Jul 23 23:53 |
| msb_ | Paul Muad-Dib: We Fremen have a saying: "God created Arakis to train the faithful." One cannot go against the word of God. " | Jul 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | pity there's no "God" | Jul 23 23:56 |
| msb_ | But Earth exists, and will train you, MinceR, if you can relax a little. | Jul 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | "i believe that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you... stranger." | Jul 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | will it train me to defeat billions of humans? | Jul 23 23:59 |
| msb_ | Looking at the negative side of things prepares us for catastrophes that may occur. But _only_ looking at the negative side prevents us from enjoying life and growing. | Jul 23 23:59 |
| msb_ | It will train you to help wake up billions of humans! | Jul 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | we won't get to enjoy life for long or grow if these people have their way | Jul 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | can you wake up the one who has no mind? | Jul 24 00:00 |
| msb_ | Billions of people aren't attacking you. They are lead by a few organized psychopaths. | Jul 24 00:01 |
| msb_ | All those people _do_ have minds. They have been programmed to stay in Sleep. They aren't dead. | Jul 24 00:02 |
| msb_ | They can wake up. | Jul 24 00:02 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: The knowledge from many different people is summarized here. The best stuff is toward the end. Please read the whole thing. http://cosmicpenguin.com/CauseAndCure.html | Jul 24 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | THE CAUSE AND CURE OF HUMANITY'S PROBLEMS [ http://ur1.ca/n52a6 ] | Jul 24 00:06 | |
| MinceR | oh, i've read it before | Jul 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | and bookmarked it because i may want to read some of those books | Jul 24 00:15 |
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| msb_ | "spice expands consciousness" The whole Dune story is about a psychedelic! | Jul 24 00:46 |
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| cubexyz | once I was asked if microsoft made windows bad on purpose | Jul 24 01:01 |
| cubexyz | but actually I think it's just a bad design | Jul 24 01:02 |
| cubexyz | Minix could actually have the best design, but there's other issues with it | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | i think they simply don't possess the knowledge and expertise required to come up with bad designs | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | though their management and corporate culture certainly doesn't help | Jul 24 01:03 |
| cubexyz | you mean good designs? :) | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | s/bad/good/ | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | they probably believe they're being clever, like poettering does | Jul 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | and sievers | Jul 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | "ooh, this is so beautifully baroque, i'm a fucking genius!" | Jul 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | m$ also hired Mr. I Define Myself By My Hatred Of Unix to design NT | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | the results were predictable | Jul 24 01:05 |
| cubexyz | Cutler | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 24 01:05 |
| cubexyz | well he's a goof | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | that guy wouldn't recognize a good design if it hit him in the head with a hammer | Jul 24 01:05 |
| cubexyz | he probably hated the fact that Unix/BSD was circulating around for free | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | like gates, who's apparently incapable of understanding that not every line of code is written with the intention to make money | Jul 24 01:06 |
| cubexyz | the higher ups at Microsoft are all about control and $$$ | Jul 24 01:06 |
| cubexyz | it's a toxic environment | Jul 24 01:06 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 24 01:07 |
| MinceR | and that attitude infected redcrap too | Jul 24 01:07 |
| cubexyz | it is a pity about Red Hat | Jul 24 01:10 |
| cubexyz | a lot of people really liked 5.2, 6.0, 6.1 etc | Jul 24 01:11 |
| cubexyz | if you want to see an OS without the bloat there's OpenBSD for vax | Jul 24 01:11 |
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| cubexyz | it can't have bloat if it has to work in 16 megs of ram | Jul 24 01:11 |
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| cubexyz | tinycore and ttylinux are anti-systemd for philosophical and technical reasons | Jul 24 01:14 |
| msb_ | I think Windows purposely contains bugs to induce people to buy the next version. | Jul 24 01:15 |
| cubexyz | it's a possibility, but the design _is_ bad | Jul 24 01:16 |
| cubexyz | you're implying that the bugs are introduced at EOL to get folks to upgrade | Jul 24 01:19 |
| cubexyz | definitely possible | Jul 24 01:19 |
| msb_ | Nah, the bugs are included when it's new. | Jul 24 01:19 |
| cubexyz | do they still use WGA? | Jul 24 01:20 |
| msb_ | It gives them plausible denial. "Duh, we don't know how to make an OS, that's why there are bugs. It's not to make people buy the next version." | Jul 24 01:20 |
| cubexyz | and the stupid thing about WGA is that it doesn't even validate Windows XP any more! | Jul 24 01:21 |
| cubexyz | it just barfs out errors | Jul 24 01:22 |
| cubexyz | it's actually pretty jarring to use windows on a customer's computer | Jul 24 01:24 |
| cubexyz | fortunately a few of my customers have linux boxes as well | Jul 24 01:27 |
| cubexyz | BSD people are pretty rare | Jul 24 01:29 |
| MinceR | this piece of shit raspberry py freezes every time i plug a particular microsd card into it | Jul 24 01:32 |
| MinceR | except when it just ignores the card even exists | Jul 24 01:32 |
| MinceR | WGA is more likely to find a genuine copy to be "pirated" than to realize that WINE isn't winblows | Jul 24 01:33 |
| MinceR | typical m$ trash quality | Jul 24 01:33 |
| msb_ | Windows Genuine Advantage messes up windows even more if it thinks it's pirated. That's real NewSpeak! | Jul 24 01:34 |
| cubexyz | Windows Genuine Disadvantage :) | Jul 24 01:34 |
| msb_ | Only time I've used Windows in this century was on a neighbor's laptop to scope out parts for my present computer, when the last one died. | Jul 24 01:36 |
| cubexyz | msb_, did you know you can buy "The Evil Within" at the Microsoft Store? | Jul 24 01:37 |
| cubexyz | I find that hilarious | Jul 24 01:37 |
| msb_ | Is that a game? | Jul 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | if i do, do they ship gates to my home in a cage? | Jul 24 01:38 |
| msb_ | Hope he has a muzzle. | Jul 24 01:38 |
| cubexyz | yes...Xbox one game | Jul 24 01:38 |
| cubexyz | I just thought it was appropriate | Jul 24 01:39 |
| msb_ | Is there an Xbox emulator for Linux? | Jul 24 01:41 |
| cubexyz | don't think so | Jul 24 01:42 |
| cubexyz | don't think the API is documented very well | Jul 24 01:44 |
| msb_ | Also for playstation and pc. But it sounds disgusting. | Jul 24 01:44 |
| msb_ | But wouldn't there be someone with a logic analyzer and nothing else to do who would pull one apart and figure out the API? | Jul 24 01:45 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jul 24 01:46 |
| cubexyz | given enough time and effort | Jul 24 01:46 |
| MinceR | in a decade or two | Jul 24 01:46 |
| MinceR | or a century | Jul 24 01:46 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 24 02:12 |
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| cubexyz | systemd, consolekit, polkit ugh | Jul 24 04:11 |
| cubexyz | FC1 didn't have any of those | Jul 24 04:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368253 | Jul 24 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Telegram in #Fedora http://fedoramagazine.org/telegram-in-fedora/ #redhat #gnu #linux #freesw | Jul 24 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | "SilverWolf: Their contest is marketing blabla see http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/" | Jul 24 05:51 |
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| schestowitz | "It does NOT prove anything" | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure what exactly their argument is supposed to be piratenpanda… They basically seem to be saying “If we knew what the message was it wouldn’t be secure!” which is pretty much a given and also exactly what’s being obscured. Am I missing something or is this just a competing project that hasn’t recieved as much publicity/actual knowledgable adoption making an excuse for why this doesn’t count as security? | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | Remember, for the average person, convenience is more important than anything else. If Telegram offers any obscurity, it’s better than alternatives. If it offers decent obscurity while maintaining convenience levels that are easy enough for non-security focused Joe Average then it’s more likely to gain adoption than a perfect security that is harder to get in to. There will likely never be easy security that is perfect security, the | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | trick is finding a good balance. | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | Telegram strikes a good balance of security, ease of use, and availability. The contest may be “marketing blabla” but if it were so easy to crack why has nobody chosen to get the reward? If it’s because you can’t do it wit | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | "without the initial message, then that’s going to be good enough for most." | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | "@priatepanda how is using the opensource free software telegram via secret chat (no server) unsecure? Please prove it before criticizing, thank you." | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | "I didnt say that. Just mentioning that their contest is in no way any indication how secure it is and how it is flawed" | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | And i dont trust them | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | Thats why i use textsecure | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | "Also as mentioned in the other thread, they still have the meta data and if their business is as shady as their marketing, well that doesn’t increase my willingness of trusting them more" | Jul 24 05:53 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 24 08:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/63https://joindiaspora.com/posts/637784277842 | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11755147/Hackers-are-winning-the-digital-war-fair-play-to-them.html | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > No. Inexcusably bad design is running rampant and left unpunished. The | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > managers that brought about these systems have been brought to justice | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > or they will just keep making pushover garbage. | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, but they don't want to 'get' it. | Jul 24 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 24 09:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Hackers are winning the digital war - fair play to them - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/n7pl4 ] | Jul 24 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624499892803637248 | Jul 24 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Maybe @TheRegister wants to disrupt #WP #hegemony & intro healthy #diversity:CMS @b2evolution http://t.co/s4nPhL4IX3 https://t.co/Gqh0Uutf7G | Jul 24 09:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> b2evolution.net | b2evolution blog/social CMS - A complete engine for your website! | Jul 24 09:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #theRegister with the usual sensationalism http://t.co/yVwdWXalvo | Jul 24 09:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @elementary favourited 'elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop...' | Jul 24 09:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel | Jul 24 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Jul 24 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/I60BJllCKa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pnl | Jul 24 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Tux Machines | Jul 24 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | > https://www.google.com/search?q=opendocument+format&hl=en | Jul 24 09:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | opendocument format - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/n7ppz ] | Jul 24 09:54 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > still missing the Document Foundation's announcement there in their index | Jul 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | In what sense? It is imperative to have it appear higher? | Jul 24 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/w6Xxvpudg8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7prx | Jul 24 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alternative to awful OEM solutions | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4kcSRQSEQO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pry | Jul 24 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta alternative to awful OEM solutions | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aRiilO42mk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7prz | Jul 24 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2P8d80Efav (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7puo | Jul 24 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Spark http://t.co/QfT3UuiBub | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.forbes.com) | Jul 24 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open Source Spark - Forbes | Jul 24 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pup | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android in 2020: How much will it change in | Jul 24 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | five years? http://t.co/QfT3UuiBub | Jul 24 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.forbes.com) | Jul 24 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7puq | Jul 24 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/yoe3N1aoUz (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pvi | Jul 24 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alternative to awful OEM solutions | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7sLb7kAvJi (arstechnica.com) | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pvk | Jul 24 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta alternative to awful OEM solutions | Ars Technica | Jul 24 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple | Jul 24 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 24 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vOnAOHyLDX (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pvl | Jul 24 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Jul 24 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/C5spGfjkUN (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pwo | Jul 24 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel Update, Users Urged to Update Now - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Adds Navigation | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements to Web Apps http://t.co/4jpSq4o10j | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Adds Navigation Improvements to Web Apps - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pwp | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Include Calendar App and | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dekko Email Client by Default | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/f78VRXw4YF (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pwq | Jul 24 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Include Calendar App and Dekko Email Client by Default - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung launches additional information | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | services for Tizen TV http://t.co/FSlvzTBj1B | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 24 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung launches additional information services for Tizen TV - Tizen Experts | Jul 24 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q3t | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/47k7virDQe (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q3u | Jul 24 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Linux Journal | Jul 24 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Spark http://t.co/lXjpEehEo1 | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q3v | Jul 24 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open Source Spark | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/624514837910044672 https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/624515075043422208 | Jul 24 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz As a guy who watches a lot of Japanese adds it seems to parents selling to on screen children..... | Jul 24 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz As an example they are currently celebrating the Revive version of the RX-78 and has a dad building for his young son. | Jul 24 10:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android in 2020: How much will it change in | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | five years? http://t.co/bXhLAi0ZaU | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q6a | Jul 24 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android in 2020: How much will it change in five years? | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The French want to BAN .doc and .xls files from | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Le Gouvernement http://t.co/masEm7nQHK | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The French want to BAN .doc and .xls files from Le Gouvernement | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q6b | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready http://t.co/BcO5VHFFMH (ostatic.com) | Jul 24 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q6d | Jul 24 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade Ready | Jul 24 10:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MikeHall820 followed @tuxmachines | Jul 24 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SmartGit 7 Preview 12 Now Ready for Download | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Testing | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RycUlj8Wi5 (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qcf | Jul 24 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | SmartGit 7 Preview 12 Now Ready for Download and Testing - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Don't Be Patchman Is the First Game to Launch | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Steam Only for Linux | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MWLzzkXuAC (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Don't Be Patchman Is the First Game to Launch on Steam Only for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qcg | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell 3.17.4 Adds Four-Finger Swipe | Jul 24 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gesture http://t.co/1zHETBFPKc | Jul 24 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Shell 3.17.4 Adds Four-Finger Swipe Gesture - Phoronix | Jul 24 11:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qic | Jul 24 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Terraria Is Finally Coming on Linux | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wJ5inrNGfr (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Terraria Is Finally Coming on Linux - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qid | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Linux's DNF Package Manager Gets New | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features, Many Bugfixes http://t.co/1d9y0ngzDt | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora Linux's DNF Package Manager Gets New Features, Many Bugfixes - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qie | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mutter 3.17.4 Improves HiDPI On Wayland, Adds | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compositor-Side Animated Cursors | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3Q0IkhqfYB (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qif | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mutter 3.17.4 Improves HiDPI On Wayland, Adds Compositor-Side Animated Cursors - Phoronix | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready http://t.co/wyn3EWTwyu | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade Ready | Tux Machines | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qih | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Advanced spyware for Android now available to | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | script kiddies everywhere | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MQSx227zWS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qij | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advanced spyware for Android now available to script kiddies everywhere | Tux Machines | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MDN celebrates 10 years of documenting YOUR Web | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0HBzKaLSsc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qik | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MDN celebrates 10 years of documenting YOUR Web | Tux Machines | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6381247 | Jul 24 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #3D printing in Fedora: From an idea to the thing http://fedoramagazine.org/3d-printing-in-fedora-from-an-idea-to-the-thing/ #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jul 24 11:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | 3D printing in Fedora: From an idea to the thing - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n7qkj ] | Jul 24 11:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6378115 | Jul 24 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU #Linux Circles Ought to Stop Promoting #VisualStudio , Neither Cross-Platform Nor Free Software http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/visual-studio-promoted-in-linux-2/ #microsoft | Jul 24 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | "Didn’t you post something the like the other day? Sorry if I’m wrong." | Jul 24 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | GNU/Linux Circles Ought to Stop Promoting Visual Studio, Which is Neither Cross-Platform Nor Free Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7nsd ] | Jul 24 12:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSCON http://t.co/2BDiWQqCoG | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qxy | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSCON | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest http://t.co/7cU3HOeZDi | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy0 | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bambiuur92 followed @tuxmachines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: GNOME Software | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OnGJBI6Byq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy2 | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: GNOME Software | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/fvOEh9E6VR | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy3 | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Q0f32HYTFB | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy5 | Jul 24 12:56 |
| schestowitz | >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=opendocument+format&hl=en | Jul 24 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | opendocument format - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/n7ppz ] | Jul 24 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | >> >> | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | >> >> still missing the Document Foundation's announcement there in their index | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | > > In what sense? It is imperative to have it appear higher? | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Hmm. That's a problem with Google searches, they appear different | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | depending on who and where one searches. For me, the Document | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Foundation's pages have never shown up and certainly not in the time | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | since the recent announcement. | Jul 24 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/Wbenn1knUe | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jul 24 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7r9p | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/C8o22Nzpz5 | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7r9q | Jul 24 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony testing 'stripped back, vanilla' Android | Jul 24 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Swedish Xperia users | Jul 24 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wOcKaaYa2u (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 24 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Sony testing 'stripped back, vanilla' Android with Swedish Xperia users | ZDNet | Jul 24 13:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Android is a fantastic platform to develop | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for." http://t.co/B30O0tSdkK | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jul 24 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Top rookie Android developer mistakes | Jul 24 14:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7rgi | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Line Launches Lightweight Version Of Its Chat | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | App For Emerging Market Android Phones | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XpeSinMNri (techcrunch.com) | Jul 24 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Line Launches Lightweight Version Of Its Chat App For Emerging Market Android Phones | TechCrunch | Jul 24 14:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet the app that fans are calling ‘the best | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | thing that ever happened to Android’ | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jC48GShb6w (bgr.com) | Jul 24 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android apps: Nova Launcher earns wide acclaim | BGR | Jul 24 14:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381235 | Jul 24 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even people inside #microsoft tell me that #vista10 is not ready. This is going to hurt. http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/vista-10-will-definitely-fail/ | Jul 24 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | "A long time Microsoft fan told me that Vista 8 “does not work,” and “It’s not functional, there are things it just can’t do.” Windows is a train wreck." | Jul 24 19:17 |
| schestowitz | People at Microsoft don't use Vista 8.... it's SHIT. | Jul 24 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Run Out of Attempts and Vista 10 Will Definitely Fail | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7lf2 ] | Jul 24 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6380979 | Jul 24 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's ZDI discloses 4 new vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer http://www.infoworld.com/article/2951738/patch-management/hp-s-zdi-discloses-four-new-vulnerabilities-in-internet-explorer.html does anyone with brains still use it? | Jul 24 19:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | HP's ZDI discloses 4 new vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/n7va5 ] | Jul 24 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "There are still vendor supplied IE6 specific software that will not work outside of IE. One of my vendors at work told me one of their pieces of software might work with IE8 but no other browser, including the IE 11 that Microsoft had shoved onto most of the computers. This just highlights the fact that vendors who use Microsoft don’t care about their customers and that Microsoft does not care about anyone." | Jul 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381079 | Jul 24 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Huge Package Overhaul for #Debian and #Ubuntu http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/huge-package-overhaul-debian-and-ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jul 24 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | "I hate churn like this. It means that you won’t be able to mix binary packages from some future version of Debian with current versions. That’s something that has worked well for me for 15 years. I still have a copy of gqview, from Lenny or Squeeze, because the official package had mutated into things I did not like as much." | Jul 24 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/n7vaq ] | Jul 24 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381334 | Jul 24 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Amazon Liable For IP Violations By Its Marketplace Vendors? http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericgoldman/2015/07/23/is-amazon-liable-for-ip-violations-by-its-marketplace-vendors/ what about #ddos ? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/07/02/aws-ddos-and-stonewalling/ | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Is Amazon Liable For IP Violations By Its Marketplace Vendors? - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/n7vb4 ] | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I smell a double standard brewing." | Jul 24 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon Says I Need to Sue in Order to Merely Find Out Who Uses Their Own Facilities (AWS) to Attack My Site [ http://ur1.ca/mzb2e ] | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381012 | Jul 24 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It doesn't seem to be a Chinese or Japanese thing to use girls (like objects) to sell gadgets (objects). #korea and #taiwan do this. [1/2] | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I would like to know where that does not happen." | Jul 24 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Not fashionable in Europe these days because "women's rights" | Jul 24 19:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6380939 | Jul 24 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I will believe there is a GENUINE employment problem in the #uk when billionaire companies like #bt pay decent wage for eSupport staff IN UK | Jul 24 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure but will assume you mean there is a shortage of engineers there, for things very complex as REIN. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Engineering in Banana Republic is one of the best paid professions, and IT among the best. There are very few professions that pay more like medicine, and beyond that you have to be entrepreneur, politician, football player or something like that to earn more. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Everybody know that, and also everybody know that careers like accountancy are so saturated that recent graduates earn not even the minimum wage, and even so people keep choosing traditional careers. And the most common reason I have heard: accountancy is easy. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | When people complain that engineers are paid too much it’s hard to me to agree, at least in Banana Republic. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | BT outsources many simple jobs to other countries, instead of employing locally | Jul 24 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle tries to beef up copyright case against | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/Pvvaxs4aNv | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle tries to beef up copyright case against Android | Tux Machines | Jul 24 19:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 22: Fresh Install Script (Ongoing | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development) http://t.co/EquzUgKF7D | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.smittix.co.uk) | Jul 24 19:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smittix.co.uk | Fedora 22: Fresh Install Script (Ongoing Development) | Smittix | Jul 24 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6382630 | Jul 24 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bssed on what I hear, #Purism (Librem) is "Pure PR" and RMS is going to publicly chastise them. Not sure if true, but seems likely. | Jul 24 19:32 | |
| schestowitz | "Is it really “Pure PR” or something like 99% FLOSS but not fully Free? They make it clear it’s not really pure." | Jul 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure, I said what I heard | Jul 24 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | still not consumer-ready http://t.co/RYcsrWcqiY | Jul 24 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.engadget.com) | Jul 24 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Jul 24 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7vws | Jul 24 20:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ipullappus favourited 'Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but...' | Jul 24 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Transforms into a PC with Just a | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bluetooth Mouse - Video http://t.co/hltHItXTwz | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Transforms into a PC with Just a Bluetooth Mouse - Video - Softpedia | Jul 24 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7w8j | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android rocks out with a new Marshall | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartphone for music lovers | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ryxDpfa17w (www.techrepublic.com) | Jul 24 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android rocks out with a new Marshall smartphone for music lovers - TechRepublic | Jul 24 20:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Last Christmas was a wake-up call for | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retailers. GNU/Linux sold well, and “8.1” did | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | not" http://t.co/Y9xVdKUPoQ (mrpogson.com) | Jul 24 21:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Jack Wallen Gets It | Robert Pogson | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets New Event Medals and Lots | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Fixes http://t.co/2dtH3dzqNE | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets New Event Medals and Lots of Fixes - Softpedia | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 21:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calibre Gets Support for the Crazy Expensive | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Fun SONY DPT-S1 http://t.co/Tbq5jieVs5 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre Gets Support for the Crazy Expensive and Fun SONY DPT-S1 - Softpedia | Jul 24 21:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NBD Vulnerabilities Fixed in All Supported | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/kq51HJ9Yvv | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NBD Vulnerabilities Fixed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | still not consumer-ready http://t.co/Y4euFhCyXV | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x49 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Container standards: Patching over the cracks | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/E0WfL9VEjo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Container standards: Patching over the cracks | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6bj6E1Qedo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/vZPictJtS6 | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rackspace for OpenStack http://t.co/jK2uybj4Uc | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xgl | Jul 24 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With Rackspace for OpenStack | Techrights | Jul 24 21:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by still not consumer-ready http://t.co/RYcsrWcqiY | Jul 24 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux (www.engadget.com) | Jul 24 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Jul 24 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xoh | Jul 24 22:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @speedytux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but...' | Jul 24 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | I heard that the core argument takes place in the #libreboot IRC channel on FreeNode. I don't know all the details. | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | > Attaching my pgp key here... | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Hello Roy, | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> I was forwarded your tweet, and wanted to get in front of any concerns | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> you have about our current status, our intentions, and our beliefs. | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Would you mind sharing any concerns you may have? | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Any free software supporter has directly aligned beliefs with us, so I | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> want to make sure any concerns are addressed personally. | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Thanks so much! | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An inlaid GNOME logo https://t.co/vrodL9rLu6 | Jul 24 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://people.gnome.org/~federico/news-2015-07.html#inlaid-gnome-4 ) | Jul 24 22:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/4nnf1SEarT | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xs8 | Jul 24 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/iuTFK9bEVC | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xsa | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/UaHKI92U5g | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xv0 | Jul 24 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/9o76szWoEa | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xv1 | Jul 24 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Where AMD's Catalyst Driver Does The Best On | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux http://t.co/JGNpLtvUjM (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 22:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Where AMD's Catalyst Driver Does The Best On Linux - Phoronix | Jul 24 22:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics | Jul 24 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Better For Skylake | Jul 24 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/z6DlMg2OkN (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 23:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements, Better For Skylake - Phoronix | Jul 24 23:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements,...' | Jul 24 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/624701058229665793 https://twitter.com/xavierhmaillard/status/624702112778309632 | Jul 24 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Response to #ukipo consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement https://t.co/XjYyMqYdnI crazy stuff! | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Response to IPO consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xavierhmaillard: @schestowitz thanks for sharing! I've highlighted you on my @RebelMouse http://t.co/xWvbOzfzoi | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rebelmouse.com | xavie | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ShShamilton57/status/624706594358493184 | Jul 24 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ShShamilton57: @schestowitz This one is easy. All you have to do is be a racist who thinks that all humans not like you are subhuman. So called Christians! | Jul 24 23:31 | |
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| Lirodon | you know what I've wondered? why anyone hasn't tried to make a fork of suse that is more, well, let's just say ... Novell-free | Jul 25 00:27 |
| cubexyz | you could just use slackware, which SUSE was derived from | Jul 25 00:34 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jul 25 00:54 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jul 25 00:54 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 25 00:54 | |
| msb_ | I wonder what Lirodon meant by Novell-free? But less than 45min after asking his question, he's gone. | Jul 25 01:11 |
| cubexyz | oops | Jul 25 01:19 |
| cubexyz | firefox just KOed all my extensions | Jul 25 01:20 |
| cubexyz | it seems it sticks old stuff into "Old Firefox Data" | Jul 25 01:21 |
| cubexyz | well this should be interesting | Jul 25 01:24 |
| cubexyz | I'll have to re-study what is up with Novell and SUSE | Jul 25 02:13 |
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| cubexyz | the java update hoses everything | Jul 25 03:34 |
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| cubexyz | when I click on a java applet does it store the applet on my computer somewhere? | Jul 25 05:08 |
| cubexyz | ugh, that was quite a nest set of software issues | Jul 25 05:11 |
| cubexyz | s/nest/nested/ | Jul 25 05:14 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, was your reference to Banana Republic the UK as in the Boomtown Rats song or to Australia where the term had some use when Paul Keating was treasurer and later Prime Minister | Jul 25 05:15 |
| amarsh04 | ? | Jul 25 05:15 |
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| cubexyz | banada republic implies a politically unstable country | Jul 25 05:25 |
| cubexyz | banana | Jul 25 05:25 |
| cubexyz | could be just about anywhere :) | Jul 25 05:25 |
| amarsh04 | true... | Jul 25 05:26 |
| cubexyz | there's also the rather nasty history of the Cuyamel Fruit Company | Jul 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics | Jul 25 07:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Better For Skylake | Jul 25 07:08 |
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| amarsh04 | agreed, cubexyz | Jul 25 07:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: banana reference is also something else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batu_Lintang_camp | Jul 25 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Batu Lintang camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n82tu ] | Jul 25 07:35 | |
| oiaohm | People forget about the Banana Money reference. | Jul 25 07:35 |
| cubexyz | the more I learn about history the more I realize how nasty things were in the past | Jul 25 07:41 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Paul Keating with the usage of Banana Replublic lines up with Banana money. | Jul 25 07:41 |
| oiaohm | Of course at the end of the war since japanene lost all the banana money was absolutely worthless. | Jul 25 07:42 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: I made no such reference | Jul 25 08:47 |
| schestowitz | maybe I quoted something | Jul 25 08:47 |
| schestowitz | likely Cronos regarding his country, Mexico | Jul 25 08:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381235 | Jul 25 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even people inside #microsoft tell me that #vista10 is not ready. This is going to hurt. http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/vista-10-will-definitely-fail/ | Jul 25 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Their partners use GNU/Linux for XKeyscore. You have to wonder how the folks at Microsoft get anything done if they are using any version of Vista." | Jul 25 08:47 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I will not say Windows 10 will definitely fail. | Jul 25 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Run Out of Attempts and Vista 10 Will Definitely Fail | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7lf2 ] | Jul 25 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | what would you say? | Jul 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz | in revenue terms, it's not looking good | Jul 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6383685 | Jul 25 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Response to #ukipo consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-ipo-consultation-on-raising-jail-sentences-for-online-infringement crazy stuff! | Jul 25 08:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 25 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Response to IPO consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement [ http://ur1.ca/n83hx ] | Jul 25 08:49 | |
| schestowitz | IPO has stressed that the proposals would be targeted to ensure that only criminals who cause intentional serious harm are targeted | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | This is the frightening thing about UK law - it is openly discriminatory and creates, intentionally, legal uncertainties. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Thus it is still illegal to take photos of public buildings such as train stations, for security reasons, but it is “tolerated” after public protest and ridicule. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | So if the cops like your face, you can do something, but if they don’t, you end up in prison. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Laws of the land by deterrence, like in Horrible Singapore | Jul 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Windows 10 due to the fact forced upgrade from Windows 7 and 8.1 will get market share. Ok maybe not profit for Microsoft | Jul 25 08:49 |
| cubexyz | it's the beginning of the end | Jul 25 08:49 |
| cubexyz | chromeboxes/books in many computer stores | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | By the way things at looking the release after Windows 10 will be facing off against Linux with Wayland so able to tick more of the security boxes. | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Even chromebooks when they start running wayland will tick more security boxs. | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes looks like the beginning of the end is very correct. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: with luck and careful management Microsoft might be able to turn the train wreck of Windows 10 around. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| oiaohm | Free upgrade ot Windows 10 does in fact help Microsoft bottom line. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Not requiring as many staff to perform OS mantaince. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Think about it Microsoft has to have a team doing Windows 8.1 updates and Windows 7 updates at the moment validating they have not busted anything. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Then also a team doing XP updates because governments and the like have not moved. | Jul 25 08:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: all those teams are costs. | Jul 25 08:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable | Jul 25 09:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Arrives in A Coruña for Akademy | KDE.news | Jul 25 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Full-Featured Mir 0.14 Update Finally Lands in | Jul 25 10:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME News Promises to Be an Unbelievable Feed | Jul 25 10:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6384833 | Jul 25 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Fedora 23 development is well underway. Last week, Fedora 23 branched from Rawhide, so that we can focus" http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-07-21/ #fedora | Jul 25 10:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | Schedules for Flock and F23, Atomic & Workstation, DNF — and a Fedora job opening! - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n84nr ] | Jul 25 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fun Open Source Games and Apps: 112 Top Picks | Jul 25 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Fun Open Source Games and Apps: 112 Top Picks - Datamation | Jul 25 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash | Jul 25 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Converters http://t.co/97LOTm45sk | Jul 25 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash Converters • The Register | Jul 25 10:35 | |
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| msb_ | . | Jul 25 10:41 |
| msb_ | There is a flap going on on some of my mailing lists about a (relatively) new cure for cancer and autism, banned by the US govt, and doctors who used it being killed! | Jul 25 10:42 |
| msb_ | http://tatoott1009.com/2015/07/23/explosive-the-real-reason-holistic-doctors-are-being-killed-and-vanishing/ | Jul 25 10:42 |
| msb_ | No bot? | Jul 25 10:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that seams just like a fake news site. | Jul 25 10:44 |
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| msb_ | There's no way to tell that quickly. Lots of weird things are happening in the world. | Jul 25 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With | Jul 25 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With Rackspace for OpenStack | Techrights | Jul 25 10:45 | |
| msb_ | Here's a video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALgIHETMDU | Jul 25 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Explosive: The real reason Holistic Doctors are being killed and vanishing! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n84tp ] | Jul 25 10:46 | |
| oiaohm | The problem I have even if a video exists that does not make it exactly true. | Jul 25 10:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/29/anti-vaccine-doctor-behind-dangerous-autism-therapy-found-dead-family-cries-foul/ | Jul 25 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Anti-vaccine doctor behind ‘dangerous’ autism therapy found dead. Family cries foul. - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/n84ud ] | Jul 25 10:48 | |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Of course. I didn't say it did. | Jul 25 10:49 |
| msb_ | I'm not vouching for this, just forwarding it. | Jul 25 10:50 |
| oiaohm | I grew up in an area with Australian bat lyssavirus being anti vaccination is fatal as the only cure to lyssavirus is rabies vaccine. | Jul 25 10:51 |
| oiaohm | So any doctor claiming anti vaccination I really do question how much medical study they have in fact done. | Jul 25 10:53 |
| oiaohm | A doctor demarding better controls on vaccination that is a sane medical choice. | Jul 25 10:53 |
| msb_ | Adequate Vitamin C seems to cure all virus infections. Even rabies (as tested on animals). | Jul 25 10:54 |
| oiaohm | Not Bat lyssavirus carrier bats eat fruit in huge volumes. | Jul 25 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Incrased Vitamin C dosage may see person dead sooner. | Jul 25 10:55 |
| msb_ | Here's the wiki page on GC-MAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gc-MAF | Jul 25 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gc-MAF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 25 10:56 | |
| oiaohm | any protein based treatment has to be handle very careful. | Jul 25 10:58 |
| oiaohm | I have mafans this is where my body does not make a particular protein. | Jul 25 10:58 |
| oiaohm | I cannot be given the protein to treat my condition as that would be providing it in a unregulated way. | Jul 25 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Leading to major worse issues than not being treated at all. So I have a very good understanding of the risks with any of the protein treatments. | Jul 25 10:59 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so doctors and mental unstablity could have come from playing with Gc-MAF | Jul 25 11:01 |
| msb_ | Here's a report of vit. C used to treat rabies. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Note I said Australian bat lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | vit C controls normal rabies to a point. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Australian bat Lyssavirus you put it replication into overdrive. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | So 30 days to 1 | Jul 25 11:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: It a illness without only 1 counter. | Jul 25 11:03 |
| msb_ | But that test was done with a C dosage of only about 15g/day for an adult human. The correct dose would be 10 to 20 times that much. | Jul 25 11:03 |
| oiaohm | The disease I mentioned is not rabies but a releation. | Jul 25 11:04 |
| msb_ | What is it that puts lyssavirus into replication? | Jul 25 11:04 |
| oiaohm | The normal rabies vaccine happens to work. | Jul 25 11:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: when lyssavirus is replicating it consuming all the vitime c and other items it can get it mits on. | Jul 25 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Australian bat lyssavirus is nasty because not only are you getting a lot of the symtompts of rabies you are also dieing of scurvy. | Jul 25 11:05 |
| msb_ | All viral infections deplete vitamin C, because C gets used up restoring the substance that white cells use for fighting viruses. | Jul 25 11:06 |
| msb_ | NADPH | Jul 25 11:06 |
| oiaohm | The virus itself is using vitamin c in the case of Australian bat lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:06 |
| msb_ | To fight a virus with C you have to give it faster than the white cells use it up. | Jul 25 11:06 |
| msb_ | please give a reference. | Jul 25 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Its in the cisro paper on it. | Jul 25 11:07 |
| msb_ | please give a reference. | Jul 25 11:07 |
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| msb_ | If C decreases during a lyssavirus infection, that's explainable by the body using it up to restore NADPH. | Jul 25 11:08 |
| msb_ | If you have a reference that says the virus itself destroys C, please give it. | Jul 25 11:09 |
| oiaohm | http://conditions.health.qld.gov.au/HealthConditions/2/Infections-Parasites/41/Viral-Infections/979/Australian-Bat-Lyssavirus I can find this one but the one that says it is a cisro virus reseach paper. | Jul 25 11:09 |
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| msb_ | C goes extremely low during an ebola infection. | Jul 25 11:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the protines that make up bat lyssavirus transport shell include C | Jul 25 11:10 |
| msb_ | How does the paper prove that the virus itself destroys C, rather than C being used up by white cells. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | Basically you need to program the body to take it out before it over runs the system. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: disasmbling the virus seeing what is making it up. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | And trying to work out why it was so fatal. | Jul 25 11:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically bat lyssavirus has a method for stopping your white cells without attacking them. Simply consume the materials they need. | Jul 25 11:16 |
| oiaohm | So it it has a true point of no return once you are infected past a particular point you are dead. | Jul 25 11:17 |
| msb_ | Here is a pdf from CSIRO: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=NB07050.pdf | Jul 25 11:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is general CSIRO not CSIRO virus research lab. | Jul 25 11:18 |
| msb_ | Well, if you know a better one, please tell us. | Jul 25 11:19 |
| msb_ | Note spelling is CSIRO not CISRO | Jul 25 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Australian Animal Health Laboratory in Geelong, Victoria is where you are looking for papers from. Problem is I might have read this papper while I was inside aarnet | Jul 25 11:22 |
| msb_ | I am just looking on advanced google. | Jul 25 11:23 |
| oiaohm | https://www.aarnet.edu.au/ is a network between univeristeies and research areas in Australia. | Jul 25 11:24 |
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| oiaohm | Not everything hosted there is exposed on internet and shows up in google. Yes there is an aarnet search engine. | Jul 25 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Being the exact contruction paper I would suspect its not on the internet msb_ | Jul 25 11:25 |
| oiaohm | Good bit about bat lyssavirus as long as you get shot soon after infection you will be fine. | Jul 25 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Human body is very impression when it know what it is meant to be killing. | Jul 25 11:27 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Even I can receive aarnet, but I don't know how to search on it. | Jul 25 11:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: sections of aarnet are private cloud groups. | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | Ie members only access | Jul 25 11:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please search on aarnet for --- vitamin C and bat-lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | I don't have a login from where I am. | Jul 25 11:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please search on aarnet for --- vitamin-C and bat-lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | since I am not in the reseach program on that at the moment. | Jul 25 11:30 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a lot of information on viruses that USA, Australia.... every one else keep secured on the fear that someone might use the data to make a super virus. | Jul 25 11:32 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: It would help for those who are anti-vacciune if they could see some of it censored removing key details. | Jul 25 11:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: key details being absolutely exact contruction. | Jul 25 11:34 |
| msb_ | Oops looks like I did not give the url of the article about C greatly increasing rabies survival at 15g/day human dose, when the correct dose would be 150g/day. | Jul 25 11:35 |
| msb_ | http://injectablevitaminc.com/images/Ch23.pdf | Jul 25 11:35 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I remember the difference because doing the collection of samples we were told not to incrase C intake. | Jul 25 11:36 |
| oiaohm | And not to follow rabies instructions. | Jul 25 11:36 |
| msb_ | I wish you could find that info, because it is unique among all viruses. | Jul 25 11:37 |
| oiaohm | I can tell you it not unique there are a few other Australian viruses with the same warning. Unique to Australia | Jul 25 11:37 |
| msb_ | Please give a ref to any of them! | Jul 25 11:39 |
| oiaohm | They all have a commonality of being bat carried diseases in Australia. | Jul 25 11:39 |
| oiaohm | The make details of them would all be in the same cloud section. | Jul 25 11:40 |
| msb_ | Not being in Oz, I would not take a vaccine for any common virus infection. | Jul 25 11:42 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, thanks for the reference re Banana republics | Jul 25 11:42 |
| msb_ | I know personally that C works great for flu, colds, and measles. | Jul 25 11:42 |
| msb_ | Plus there are refs for polio and many other viruses. | Jul 25 11:43 |
| msb_ | Whereas vaccines can cause terrible harm to a few people. | Jul 25 11:43 |
| oiaohm | http://www.malariaworld.org/blog/vitamin-c-and-malaria-beware | Jul 25 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.malariaworld.org | Vitamin C and malaria: beware! | MalariaWorld [ http://ur1.ca/n85ei ] | Jul 25 11:44 | |
| msb_ | Antibacterial vaccines I might take. | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Also msb_ you don't live where you have malaria | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Because vitamin c also send malaria into overdrive. | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | This is the catch Vitamin C for lots of viruses help the body defeat it.(yes there are some exceptions) There are a lot of other infections where Vitamin C helps the infection. | Jul 25 11:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes classic example of too much of a good thing can be extreamly bad for you. | Jul 25 11:47 |
| oiaohm | So yes the recommendation to take C without understanding what the person has could be just as harmful as giving someone a vaccine without checking compadiblity first. | Jul 25 11:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I am against the random injecting of vaccines. But I am not against vaccines being used with proper compadiblity checking. | Jul 25 11:49 |
| msb_ | Apparently C causes increased iron intake which causes increased red blood cell production. Since malaria parsites live and multiply in RBCs in one stage of their life cycle, C increases malaria replication. | Jul 25 11:52 |
| oiaohm | I wish I could find the one with the flesh eating bacteria and possitive boost by vit C | Jul 25 11:53 |
| oiaohm | boost to the bacteria not the human | Jul 25 11:54 |
| msb_ | OK that's _two_ diseases -- bat lyssavirus and malaria -- in which Vitamin C is harmful. But it is greatly beneficial in all other viral infections, and helpful in bacterial infections. | Jul 25 11:54 |
| msb_ | should have said increased iron uptake, not intake | Jul 25 11:55 |
| oiaohm | bacterial it can be helpful to the some bacteria infections. | Jul 25 11:56 |
| oiaohm | Most common it helpful to is the bacteria that causes gut issues that we use to take anti acids for before we found it was a bacteria. | Jul 25 11:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is the thing taking anything outside moderation has risks. | Jul 25 11:57 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember infections like flesheaters this include the gut one I cannot remember it name the human immune system is not good at dealling with. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | Animals other than apes and guinea pigs produce up to 70grams/day of vitamin C per 150lbs body weight if they have a severe viral disease. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | So doses of 100grams/day of C are within moderation. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | for an adult human | Jul 25 11:59 |
| oiaohm | As long as you are not getting it by other sources. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | 100grams would be your total intack limit. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| msb_ | It's impossible to get 100g/day of C from food | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Not impossible. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | There are a few fruits that can do that. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Mind you todo it you would need most likely to eat http://www.fruitsinfo.com/miracle-fruit.php | Jul 25 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fruitsinfo.com | Miracle fruit | Synsepalum dulcificum | Miracle Berry, Health benefits, History of the fruit [ http://ur1.ca/n85lm ] | Jul 25 12:03 | |
| oiaohm | so you could ingore the acidity. | Jul 25 12:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Notice the "For diabetic patients" there. They can be consuming a lot higher acid levels than normal people do with nasty long term side effects. | Jul 25 12:06 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I guess you are now seeing where the problem comes in when you have Australians with all the strangeness in plants and creatures we have. | Jul 25 12:07 |
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| Illllllll | Hi | Jul 25 12:09 |
| XRevan86 | Illllllll: hi | Jul 25 12:09 |
| msb_ | There is nothing in the Miracle Fruit article saying that it has a lot of Vitamin C. Just that it fucks up your taste buds something awful so that everything tastes sweet for hours. | Jul 25 12:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Its not that it has a lot of Vitamin C it makes eating complete meals filled with stuff containing high vitamin C possible. | Jul 25 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Where other wise you would not be able todo it. | Jul 25 12:10 |
| Illllllll | Great site | Jul 25 12:10 |
| Illllllll | For the first time here | Jul 25 12:11 |
| XRevan86 | Illllllll: :) | Jul 25 12:12 |
| oiaohm | Illllllll: I guess there is no particular meaning to that name selection? | Jul 25 12:12 |
| msb_ | a 1-grain saccharin tablet in a cup of water with 5 grams of C tastes fine. Not too acidic. But you still have to rinse off your teeth afterward with an alkaline solution like a little MgCO3 in water. | Jul 25 12:13 |
| Illllllll | No meaning... | Jul 25 12:14 |
| msb_ | Illllllll: The actual proper topic is free (GPL) software like GNU/Linux and the disadvantages of software patents, DRM, and other corporate inhibitions to free computer use and info exchange. | Jul 25 12:15 |
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| msb_ | But sometimes people will post little-known info of particular value, in this case cures for diseases that the corporate media and govts try to suppress. | Jul 25 12:17 |
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| Illlllllll | I have a question about vit C.... | Jul 25 12:19 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: Here's the website associated with the channel: http://techrights.org Also tuxmachines.org | Jul 25 12:20 |
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| msb_ | Illlllllll: What is your question? | Jul 25 12:21 |
| Illlllllll | I saw you were chatting about C vit.. i know it is a tech channel | Jul 25 12:22 |
| Illlllllll | Ok, a question. What happens with vit C when you put it in a very hot tea? | Jul 25 12:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_ferdinandiana Remember I said Australian that 5 gram C you will get for sure from 200 grams of this. | Jul 25 12:24 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: and if the fruit is really good 10 g from 200 grams | Jul 25 12:24 |
| oiaohm | msb_: stuff you face full of them 100g in a day is more than possible. | Jul 25 12:25 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but to tollerate eating them in volume you need mircale berry. | Jul 25 12:26 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: C will absorb oxygen from the air or from liquids, and chemical reactions are speeded up by heat. So you should not put it in hot tea and leave it for a long time. | Jul 25 12:26 |
| msb_ | When C absorbs O2 it becomes permanently inactive. | Jul 25 12:27 |
| Illlllllll | Ok. So heating dos it to C vit? How long does it take? A minute? Seconds...? | Jul 25 12:28 |
| Illlllllll | Let me say, put 2000mg C vit in a hot tea. | Jul 25 12:28 |
| Illlllllll | Will be there any C vit after 10 minutes? | Jul 25 12:29 |
| oiaohm | There is a lot of research on this. | Jul 25 12:29 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: I wouldn't leave it for more than a couple of minutes. | Jul 25 12:29 |
| oiaohm | The tea does not need to be that hot to destroy vit C. But vit C does not break down quickly no matter what. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Short very hot exposure is way better for vit C than long term at lower temp. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you would have to eat a pound of that fruit to get 25grams of C. That would probably give you screaming diarrhea. And you might need several times that much C to fight a serious virus. Best to get ascorbic acid powder in a jar. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| Illlllllll | i see.... good to know! Thanks... A sevond one: what happenes to vit C exposed directly to the sun? Sorry for questions.. | Jul 25 12:31 |
| oiaohm | The fact that vit C breaks down is a issue that people going into shops buying what is so called fresh fruit that has been frozen for years could in fact have no vit C left | Jul 25 12:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I grew up in a citrus area end up with bad diarrhea because you got into fruit too much as not exactly strange. | Jul 25 12:33 |
| msb_ | This company sells bulk ascorbic acid a couple times a year for about 10USD/lb. -- half price. http://purebulk.com/ Get on their mailing list. | Jul 25 12:33 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: I said 100 gram was possible by eating I did not say it was a wise thing todo. | Jul 25 12:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: 1K of vit C a day by just eating stuff is truly impossible. | Jul 25 12:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: also you have to remember having something pure is not exactly good if the body lacks the chemicals to process it properly. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| msb_ | For extremely dangerous viruses like ebola, one might want 500g/day of C as sodium ascorbate given intravenously. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and a few other things in the drip as well. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so that the C processes effectively. | Jul 25 12:37 |
| oiaohm | A drip will all the chemicals you body need to make anti-bodies would be such a useful thing. | Jul 25 12:37 |
| cubexyz | yeah it would be great if there was a food bar that had everything you need in it :) | Jul 25 12:38 |
| msb_ | I think one doctor adds glutathione. That may be necessary to enable C to regenerate NADP to NADPH. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Pizza comes pretty close. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember more vit C than you body can use your kiddneys will cop it. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | cop it? | Jul 25 12:39 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so no point curing the cold at the price of the kiddneys. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| oiaohm | msb_: high acidic in kiddneys scar them. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | more C than you need given orally is just not absorbed from the intestine, and causes diarrhea. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| oiaohm | That is given orally not by drip. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| msb_ | Thus you can adjust the oral dose by increasing until diarrhea occurs and then backing off a little. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Oral dosage of C has natural safe gards. | Jul 25 12:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically as soon as you go intranvenously you have to be a lot more careful you have bipassed a safetly system. | Jul 25 12:42 |
| msb_ | Maybe you can measure the redox potential of the urine and make sure it is not strongly reducing, indicating dumping of unused C. | Jul 25 12:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: due to bladder delay you could be looking at kiddey damage by the time that shows it. | Jul 25 12:43 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: can you give a ref on C causing kidney damage and how fast and in what dosage? | Jul 25 12:44 |
| msb_ | IV | Jul 25 12:44 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: acute renal failure is a documented side effect of too much C | Jul 25 12:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: even by oral. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | It's a shame Dr Robert Cathcart has passed. He as the expert on IV C. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Please give a ref. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | was | Jul 25 12:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the 6 sites so far are passworded. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Cannot give my useal.s | Jul 25 12:47 |
| msb_ | Why would a webstie be passworded? | Jul 25 12:47 |
| oiaohm | msb_: medical journals and so on like like charging. | Jul 25 12:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/vitamin-c/safety/hrb-20060322 | Jul 25 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mayoclinic.org | Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) Safety - Mayo Clinic [ http://ur1.ca/n862x ] | Jul 25 12:48 | |
| oiaohm | Ok that one is open to public and does not mention it all. | Jul 25 12:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: kidney stones what is mentioned is nasty. --red blood cell destruction-- Yes absolute killer is mentioned when you are way over | Jul 25 12:50 |
| cubexyz | hack it | Jul 25 12:50 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically Vit C is not 100 percent safe. | Jul 25 12:50 |
| oiaohm | particularly if you put it in IV and don't supervise it very carefully. | Jul 25 12:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: without question badly managed Vit C usage is just as if not more dangours than vaccuines. | Jul 25 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Miss manage either you will kill a person. | Jul 25 12:53 |
| oiaohm | msb_: you know people die from drinking too much water without the matching ammount of salt. | Jul 25 12:53 |
| msb_ | I and tens of millions of others have taken 5-10 grams/day of C with no ill effects for decades. | Jul 25 12:53 |
| msb_ | That is the amount that healthy animals of human body weight make for themselves. | Jul 25 12:54 |
| msb_ | During a viral infection they make up to 70g/day. | Jul 25 12:54 |
| cubexyz | I think drinking too much water will actually dilute the blood | Jul 25 12:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but your 500g/day example would possibly kill person. | Jul 25 12:55 |
| msb_ | Not if the viral infection was so serious that that amount of C was being used up every day to reconstitute NADPH. | Jul 25 12:55 |
| cubexyz | hyponatremia is the medical term | Jul 25 12:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember when the virus starts being beaten the C consume rate will drop. | Jul 25 12:56 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, another example of mixing Latin and Greek :) | Jul 25 12:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and if you don't adjust at the right point say dead human. | Jul 25 12:56 |
| msb_ | Without adequate NADPH, the white cells can't fight a serious virus, and the person will definitely die. | Jul 25 12:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and too much C in body person will definitely die as well. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| oiaohm | so it a balance. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: People and doctors who use large doses of C orally and IV do NOT report any adverse effects. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| msb_ | If it's used for the duration of a serious viral infection. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| oiaohm | The key thing is if it stopped at the right point. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| oiaohm | The are record deaths where doctor made mistake. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| msb_ | What they report is that the person lived, which skeptics did not expect. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: with C? | Jul 25 12:58 |
| oiaohm | There are conrner reports where C dosages have killed. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| oiaohm | This is a side of the C use to treat viruses that is not talked about. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| oiaohm | That the C dosage must be stopped at the right point. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| oiaohm | If it high. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| msb_ | It should be tapered down as less is needed. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| oiaohm | Ideal would be something like a insulan pump design for C monitoring the blood level live. | Jul 25 13:00 |
| oiaohm | And auto cutting off. | Jul 25 13:00 |
| oiaohm | But a lot of current methods for virus treament that some of these doctors are using are really using russian rollette | Jul 25 13:01 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember you body fighting illness is not exactly predictable its like predicting the outcome of a battle field. | Jul 25 13:02 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Are you sure you know what you are talking about? I have read many articles on the usage of high-dose C, and none of them has mentioned it injuring the patient. | Jul 25 13:03 |
| msb_ | The important thing to remember is NEVER use systemd! | Jul 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I have looked up Coroners Reports on deaths. Something to remember when a doctor does get done for some strange non main stream stunt and it causes a death they get struck off. | Jul 25 13:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so you don't see papers normally from doctors who have caused deaths. | Jul 25 13:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the bad outcomes leading to Coroner reports says with vit C we need a lot more control for it to be safe. | Jul 25 13:06 |
| oiaohm | With the right investment vit C for viruses could be a safe thing. With current methods IV methods it been unsafe. | Jul 25 13:07 |
| msb_ | Mainstream medicine is run by big pharma companies that want to discourage the use of C in order to keep people sicker and sell more drugs. | Jul 25 13:07 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the system I am sitting on is running systemd without major trouble. | Jul 25 13:07 |
| msb_ | Yeah, it could burn your ass at any moment! | Jul 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: unlikely. | Jul 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: my system is more stable on systemd than it was under sysvinit. | Jul 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the other system here that is openrc is also quite good. | Jul 25 13:09 |
| oiaohm | the big discourage to using C is the death outcomes and the fact that no one has been putting up devices to prevent the error. | Jul 25 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Of course big pharma are not interesting in investing in developing those machines. | Jul 25 13:10 |
| msb_ | Unless the patient has severe kidney disease or is an oxalate stone-former, if they have a severe virus that could kill them they are in much more danger from the virus than from IV C. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: did you miss too much C destroys blood cells. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: particularly red ones. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so you cannot take a breath. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | C not controlled properly is as dangerous if not more dangerous than the virus. | Jul 25 13:13 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: your worries are contrary to everyone's experience. | Jul 25 13:13 |
| oiaohm | Have you look for those that did not live in the Coroners Reports | Jul 25 13:14 |
| msb_ | But if you want to die from some hemorrhagic fever instead of taking enough C to kill it, then, well, good luck. | Jul 25 13:14 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I would pre not to have to gamble my life to take the C need to kill it. | Jul 25 13:15 |
| msb_ | If there were a significant number of coroner's reports indicating death by C, the drug companies and govt would use them to ban C. | Jul 25 13:15 |
| msb_ | or at least ban jars of bulk C powder. | Jul 25 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Its why any doctor using high dosage IV C is in frowned on as doing that is in fact forbin. | Jul 25 13:16 |
| msb_ | too many spelling errors | Jul 25 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Low doesage msb_ on the other hand is not becaus the documentation says it harmless. | Jul 25 13:17 |
| msb_ | you are not making sense | Jul 25 13:17 |
| msb_ | please check your spelling and grammar | Jul 25 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Vit C is not banned on supply because it documented safe in low usage. | Jul 25 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Vit C in high dosage IV is in fact forbid. The doctors using have caused death. | Jul 25 13:18 |
| msb_ | Then it could be banned in anything bigger than 50mg pills, which the FDA tries to do every decade or so. | Jul 25 13:19 |
| msb_ | But you can't give any refs. | Jul 25 13:19 |
| msb_ | If C caused many deaths, the sale of 1Kg jars would be banned. | Jul 25 13:20 |
| msb_ | Pharma would love that, because they could make more billions in profit from symptomatic cold and flu remedies. | Jul 25 13:21 |
| oiaohm | msb_: note what I said about body normal protection system. | Jul 25 13:22 |
| msb_ | But when the FDA tried to do that in the 1990s, a _Republican_ senator forced them to stop. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | eating the stuff the body only protection system kicked in before you get to blood destroying in most cases. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | So baning 1KG powerder is not the issue. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | its IV usage | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Where you have bipassed a natural safegaurd. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically when ever you by pass a natural safe guard with vititams you need to be very careful. | Jul 25 13:24 |
| msb_ | Apparently some doctors mix jars of sodium ascorbate with distilled water and inject that IV. Cathcart treated hundreds or thousands of people that way and was not struck off, so apparently he didn't kill anybody. | Jul 25 13:25 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague tho | Jul 25 13:26 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague theoretical principle which does is not relevant in practice. | Jul 25 13:27 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague theoretical principle which is not relevant in practice. | Jul 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Notice what you just said they are making it themselves. What level mix where they using. | Jul 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | If they were only really using a low level they may not have killed anyone and may still been inside the rules. | Jul 25 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Problem is will that be enough doesage to beat the illness you have msb_ | Jul 25 13:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: all the death reports have a few things in common. 1 IV usage. 2 blood level of what ever vititum that has a lethal side effect too high. | Jul 25 13:30 |
| msb_ | Here is Cathcart's website. Look it up yourself: https://web.archive.org/web/20130302070632/http://www.orthomed.com/ | Jul 25 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. [ http://ur1.ca/n86jx ] | Jul 25 13:30 | |
| oiaohm | vitamins sorry about recently my Konversation irc client had lost it spell check. | Jul 25 13:31 |
| oiaohm | As you can tell I need it. | Jul 25 13:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically we need better ways of giving vitamins by IV same way we need better ways to give insulin before Insulin Pumps. | Jul 25 13:36 |
| oiaohm | All the deaths due to Vitamin C IV usage you would assign to doctor error/lack of equipment todo it properly. | Jul 25 13:37 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: the same applies to vaccinations. Like you don't see a blood screen for compatibility before doctor injects a vaccine. Wrong process/lack of equipment equals death with medical. | Jul 25 13:40 |
| msb_ | The important number is the ratio of the probability of death from the virus, to the probability of death from Vitamin C. | Jul 25 13:40 |
| oiaohm | The right dosage is important to get the ratio of probability of death from the virus as low as possible and avoid the probability death from the Vitamin | Jul 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Its exactly the same as balancing a insulin dosage. | Jul 25 13:42 |
| msb_ | If you are bleeding from your eyes and every other opening of your body from Marburg or Ebola, or you are seizing or whatever from viral encephalitis, chances are the virus is far more dangerous than the IV C. | Jul 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if the dosage is too low its not going to be effective either remember that | Jul 25 13:43 |
| msb_ | I don't think people can be screened for vaccine danger. | Jul 25 13:43 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: so enough should be given so the symptoms recede. | Jul 25 13:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: again there is a delay between when body usage of C drops and symptons recede | Jul 25 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Monitoring the level in the blood is the only way. | Jul 25 13:44 |
| oiaohm | msb_: it is possible to screen for vaccine danger it expensive. | Jul 25 13:45 |
| msb_ | How? | Jul 25 13:45 |
| oiaohm | You take blood sample find the stemcells. convicne them to make all the different cell types give the white cells in the sample in the blood the vaccine and watch the outcome. | Jul 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Takes about 20 days per person currently. | Jul 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | And if you have not guessed doing that costs about 10 000 dollars a time. | Jul 25 13:47 |
| msb_ | Vaccines have many different routes of toxicity. Especially live ones. That test isn't going to cover them. | Jul 25 13:47 |
| oiaohm | No safe vaccines should be live | Jul 25 13:48 |
| oiaohm | If the vaccine is a live vaccine is not safe. DNA mutations mean anything could happen. | Jul 25 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Safe vaccines don't have many different routes of toxicity. Safe vaccine toxity is normally confusing the white cells to attack persons own cells. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| msb_ | More than that: As virions bud out of your cells they can incorporate cell membrane material, leading to autoimmune disease. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes autoimmune outcomes is what you are testing to make sure don't happen with safe vaccines. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| oiaohm | I do know the USA has at times use live vaccines. Live vaccines are forbin out right in Australia. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| msb_ | Viral vaccines also contain material from whatever tissue they were grown on, even if they are killed. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| oiaohm | That is still using a live vaccine. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| oiaohm | There is a different method to make a safe predictable vaccine. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| oiaohm | Add the dna of the segment of virus you need produced to tanks of bacteria and have them produce just that segment. | Jul 25 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically the same kinds of tanks we use to make insulin and other hormones in great volume. | Jul 25 13:54 |
| oiaohm | msb_: problem with using live virus and killing it is the fact it can break in different places every single time so be random-ally safe/unsafe. | Jul 25 13:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically there are vaccines and there are vaccines. Proper safe ones are produced by 1 very particular method. | Jul 25 13:56 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Feel free to inject whatever unknown biological products into your bloodstream that you want. Please read Cathcart's site to learn the reality of IV C therapy. I have other things to do now and can't spend any more time with your theoretical arguments. | Jul 25 13:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Please note I do agree with the problem of what a vaccuine being known. I am not exactly happy with that. | Jul 25 13:59 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I do understand that is possible to use them properly. And at that stage I don't know of a single country anywhere using them properly. | Jul 25 14:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: due to the fact I had to have particular vaccines to do some of the work I had to and I had the access rights to find out before it went in my arm I did find out. | Jul 25 14:02 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so I absolutely don't agree with the secret side of stuff being injected. | Jul 25 14:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dkavedk: @schestowitz @gnutelephony - the electronic trust barrier, just what exactly is that again... | Jul 25 14:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624940713931841536 https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624941013061246976 | Jul 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz if people in Malaysia need unbiased news, they read the Straits Times pub. in Singapore who, in turn, read New Straits Times! | Jul 25 14:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz same with neighboring countries like Thailand. No censoring or holds barred for neighbors, censorship for stuff within. | Jul 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | Straits Times closely linked to government officials (see management), who are buddies with Malaysia. It's #singapore propaganda. | Jul 25 15:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624942628166049792 | Jul 25 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I know it's propaganda. That's why Singaporeans read New Straits Times to get dope on their country. Believe me, I lived there | Jul 25 15:05 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/624946517825179648 | Jul 25 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz A good article IMO. | Jul 25 15:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624947640200003585 | Jul 25 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz while not condoning current Tory govt., Thatcher or Singapore, I think western democracy is overrated. http://t.co/6Xm12C9OOz | Jul 25 15:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theatlantic.com | Lee Kuan Yew's Challenge to Democracy - The Atlantic | Jul 25 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | "freedom and democracy" is marketing (Bernays, PR) | Jul 25 15:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | How Edward Bernays hacked democracy - Truthloader - YouTube | Jul 25 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624947978072125441 | Jul 25 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and this. https://t.co/CKPn6jmptt | Jul 25 15:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foreignaffairs.com | A Conversation with Lee Kuan Yew | Foreign Affairs | Jul 25 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6382630 | Jul 25 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bssed on what I hear, #Purism (Librem) is "Pure PR" and RMS is going to publicly chastise them. Not sure if true, but seems likely. | Jul 25 15:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Ok, I see." | Jul 25 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to a person from the project yesterday, maybe they can reconcile it | Jul 25 15:55 |
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| oiaohm | http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html | Jul 25 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.streamingmedia.com | New Patent Pool Wants 0.5% Of Every Content Owner/Distributor's Gross Revenue For Higher Quality Video - Dan Rayburn - StreamingMediaBlog.com [ http://ur1.ca/n87u2 ] | Jul 25 16:02 | |
| oiaohm | Now that is up there. | Jul 25 16:02 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please tell me what is your native language and level of education? | Jul 25 16:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I am Australian so English is my native. I have a BA so UNI level. | Jul 25 16:11 |
| oiaohm | There is 1 major catch. | Jul 25 16:11 |
| oiaohm | I was deaf for the first 6 years of my life and had very bad dyslexia. | Jul 25 16:12 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: You're doing quite well! | Jul 25 16:13 |
| oiaohm | msb_: when I get annoyed I sometimes lose focus on language and the some of my major defects return. | Jul 25 16:13 |
| msb_ | This is very good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 16:14 |
| oiaohm | When I say very bad dyslexia I could not get 2 letter words right at first. | Jul 25 16:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes that is spelling a simple world like "to" only correct 50 percent of the time. | Jul 25 16:14 |
| msb_ | (bot is gone) How Edward Bernays hacked democracy - Truthloader | Jul 25 16:15 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I guess you were asking because my language was that bad you did not think I was native. | Jul 25 16:17 |
| msb_ | I was just curious. | Jul 25 16:17 |
| oiaohm | The really bad part is without a spell checker I cannot see when I am typing words wrong. It is completely insane a person next to me can ask me to spell the incorrect word and I spell out the correct word. | Jul 25 16:19 |
| oiaohm | It has to be the worst form of error. | Jul 25 16:19 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: Thanks for tell me before I was unreadable. It was a update that had turned off auto spell checking. | Jul 25 16:22 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Usually you were readable. It was just an occasional sentence I was unable to parse. | Jul 25 16:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: you now have a clue how much I am fixing all the time. | Jul 25 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm, msb_: What are you talking about? | Jul 25 16:24 |
| msb_ | So you read over and edit what you're going to post before you hit Enter? I do, and still make mistakes sometimes. | Jul 25 16:24 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Do you have scroll-back on your IRC client? | Jul 25 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I don't have IRC history. | Jul 25 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | (18:13:41) msb_: oiaohm: You're doing quite well! | Jul 25 16:26 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: we were chatting about different things I think an hour ago and I did not have spell checker on so msb_ saw my raw English that is horrible. | Jul 25 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | The first message I see. | Jul 25 16:26 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Can you turn history on? | Jul 25 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That would require me to set up a bouncer. | Jul 25 16:26 |
| msb_ | What is that? | Jul 25 16:26 |
| oiaohm | msb_: problem is even if I read over my line due to my Brain processing error it appears perfect to me. Yes I could have told a person next to be the correct spelling of every word and been 100 percent sure they were correct. | Jul 25 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: A daemon that sits in an IRC room and logs everything. | Jul 25 16:27 |
| msb_ | Konversation has history and logging. | Jul 25 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: You're from US, right? | Jul 25 16:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Australia | Jul 25 16:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Yes I am up late | Jul 25 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, I thought double-spacing after a dot is popular only in US. | Jul 25 16:28 |
| oiaohm | I did typing class in highschool if you did it prior to 1994 you lost marks for using only a single space. | Jul 25 16:29 |
| oiaohm | Australian double space after the . is a part give away of age. | Jul 25 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That practically means our heads are like ":-) (-:" | Jul 25 16:29 |
| msb_ | I think it's a good idea because period and comma may be difficult to tell apart. | Jul 25 16:30 |
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| XRevan86 | msb_: No they're not. | Jul 25 16:30 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: depends on the typewriter | Jul 25 16:31 |
| msb_ | To me they sometimes are. | Jul 25 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's what large letters are for. | Jul 25 16:31 |
| oiaohm | Worn typewriters with the old spinning wheels the difference between a full stop and a comma could be nothing. | Jul 25 16:31 |
| oiaohm | Why the hook off the comma use to break off. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | You. Know. These. Are. Not. Commas, even if you mess with your fonts. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: We don't use typewriters you know. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | Typewritery things are not required therefore. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| msb_ | You are not the boss of me! | Jul 25 16:33 |
| msb_ | 8^) | Jul 25 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I expect to be the boss if I'm the voice of reason :). | Jul 25 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | Am I? | Jul 25 16:34 |
| msb_ | Much of the time. | Jul 25 16:34 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: do have a daisy wheel printer they are also typewriters. They are used when you need to print a document using 8 levels of carbon transfer | Jul 25 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Three spaces now? :) | Jul 25 16:36 |
| msb_ | But the essential change in social evolution is not having bosses. People do as they please as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. | Jul 25 16:36 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: typo | Jul 25 16:36 |
| msb_ | "xrevan" is Russian for "Mr. Picky" | Jul 25 16:37 |
| oiaohm | Its also like you can still buy dot matrix printers new as well. | Jul 25 16:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes different legal documents required the usage of carbon/what ever that purple thing is transfers. | Jul 25 16:38 |
| msb_ | For any non-scrollers among us, this is a great video about Bernays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 16:41 |
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| oiaohm | http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html | Jul 25 16:41 |
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| oiaohm | This is nasty patent pool abuse. | Jul 25 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | > Yes different legal documents required the usage of carbon/what ever that purple thing is transfers | Jul 25 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: What do you mean? | Jul 25 16:42 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: you know what you seen in invoice books for hand written where you see the transfer paper. | Jul 25 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: ah | Jul 25 16:43 |
| msb_ | carbon paper | Jul 25 16:44 |
| oiaohm | There are different legal documents due to regulation stupidity where the copy must be produced at the exact same time as the original or its not valid. | Jul 25 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fimg-fotki.yandex.ru%2Fget%2F6107%2F109183592.a%2F0_7ef9f_b5bef254_XL.jpg&sp=62e119822eda7ff0b5fc3d2917dd55dd | Jul 25 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | this thing? | Jul 25 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | It's called "copying paper" in Russian :). | Jul 25 16:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: that is carbon paper. We call it carbon because that one can be undo with a pencil eraser. The purple form is a ink. | Jul 25 16:46 |
| oiaohm | Basically you have two forms of copying paper XRevan86 | Jul 25 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I had no idea. | Jul 25 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Yes regulations at times state what one you are meant to use. | Jul 25 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Use the wrong one start again. | Jul 25 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not sure it's possible to buy it in Russia now. | Jul 25 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | on a market | Jul 25 16:48 |
| oiaohm | I would guess Russia has no regulations requiring. | Jul 25 16:50 |
| oiaohm | I can buy both here from any newsagent. | Jul 25 16:51 |
| oiaohm | But the price suxs. $112.09 for 100 sheets. | Jul 25 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I've checked it out on market.yandex.ru | Jul 25 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | 100 sheets of carbon space from "OfficeSpace": 155 RUB | Jul 25 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | dollar is now 58 RUB | Jul 25 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | oops, vice-versa | Jul 25 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | $3 | Jul 25 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Seriously, 50 times overpricing. | Jul 25 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Now I am feeling so ripped off its not funny. | Jul 25 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | 500 sheets of Xerox carbon paper: 2383 RUB | Jul 25 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | $41 | Jul 25 16:56 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Why don't you buy it from sites like aliexpress? | Jul 25 16:57 |
| msb_ | Originally it had actual carbon on it. | Jul 25 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | and buy a OnePlus One from change | Jul 25 16:58 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Lazyiness and time mostly. | Jul 25 16:59 |
| msb_ | Regarding that video, there _are_ "death panels" in Medicare. Maybe not for individual people. But they make policies such as they won't pay for cancer treatment if the person is beyond a certain age, because it's likely that they will die soon anyway. | Jul 25 17:00 |
| oiaohm | But by the price difference I am serousally going to bite the bullet and have a stock pile. | Jul 25 17:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: with different cancers in Australia we are having vaccines to them. | Jul 25 17:02 |
| oiaohm | msb_: ie custom per person vaccines. Turning out more cost effective. | Jul 25 17:02 |
| msb_ | Of course the govt still makes some good alternative cancer treatments illegal. But that just teaches people that the govt is a bunch of thugs. | Jul 25 17:02 |
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| XRevan86 | oiaohm: It's incredible that you can even afford it. | Jul 25 17:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: your usa right? | Jul 25 17:03 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: How do they make a vaccine against a tumor? | Jul 25 17:03 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: PBS what is base medical Australia is paying for it. | Jul 25 17:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: cancer is normally mutations so if the mutations case caused the caccer cells to have unique cell surface markers you are in business. | Jul 25 17:04 |
| oiaohm | Just program the body own system to go after that. | Jul 25 17:05 |
| oiaohm | See I types cancer correct once then managed to type caccer instead. | Jul 25 17:05 |
| msb_ | So they just fractionate some of the tumor and separate out the surface antigens? | Jul 25 17:05 |
| msb_ | ...to make the vaccine? | Jul 25 17:06 |
| oiaohm | msb_: zero radiation zero expensive drugs and once body is programed to target the cancer it will keep on doing it for at least 8 years. | Jul 25 17:07 |
| msb_ | How much does it cost to make the vaccine? | Jul 25 17:07 |
| msb_ | What is the percentage effectiveness? | Jul 25 17:08 |
| oiaohm | Little more complex. | Jul 25 17:08 |
| oiaohm | Seperate out the surface antigens bind those to something the body will take as requiring destruction. | Jul 25 17:08 |
| msb_ | Anyhow this stuff is very cheap -- buy it at the healthfood store, or get DCA (illegally) via the Web: http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/ | Jul 25 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Cancer -- New Natural Remedies! | Jul 25 17:09 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: when it can be done 100 percent peffectiveness. Cost is 20 000 dollars a turn but that is a lot cheaper than radiation treatment. | Jul 25 17:09 |
| oiaohm | I am hating self right now. | Jul 25 17:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: note not everyone with cancer has multations that alter cell surfaces. | Jul 25 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: You know what's my biggest question around cancer? | Jul 25 17:10 |
| msb_ | I am loving you. You just told me about an anticancer technique I never heard of before! | Jul 25 17:10 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: I have to ask? | Jul 25 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's a rare disease from my point of view (in Russia?) but from your words it's so freaky common. | Jul 25 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | why's that? | Jul 25 17:12 |
| msb_ | Borscht! It's why Russians live into their hundreds. Also sour cream. | Jul 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | What's sour cream? | Jul 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, smetana | Jul 25 17:13 |
| msb_ | Like yogurt but with more fat. | Jul 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's not even close to a yogurt. | Jul 25 17:14 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: most common cancer in Australia is sun cancers. | Jul 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | What's a borsh without smetana? | Jul 25 17:14 |
| oiaohm | I guess russias don't get themselves sun burnt as much. | Jul 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yeah, especially in this part :). | Jul 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I mean, in Leningrad. | Jul 25 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | * St. Petersburg | Jul 25 17:15 |
| oiaohm | That would be one of the big differences. | Jul 25 17:16 |
| oiaohm | The problem is if you do get a sun caused cancer it does not have to stay where it formed so can appear in other parts of body. | Jul 25 17:16 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: I knew it. You made that up. Bedrich Smetana is a Czech music composer from the 1800s. | Jul 25 17:17 |
| oiaohm | So a percentage of all diagnosed cancers no matter what organs they are found in are sun caused. | Jul 25 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: You cracked me up :D | Jul 25 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Lovely_borshch.jpg | Jul 25 17:18 |
| msb_ | 8^) | Jul 25 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | What a lovely… no, this is not lovely. | Jul 25 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | Borsh is not enough but smetana is quite a lot. | Jul 25 17:19 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: also a percentage of cancers are virus caused. So some countries has lower rates of particular viruses so lower rates of those cancers. | Jul 25 17:19 |
| oiaohm | Finally what you eat is a factor XRevan86 | Jul 25 17:20 |
| oiaohm | Like huge ammounts of deep fried stuff or other ways of horibally burning food is not good either. | Jul 25 17:20 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so each country should have a different cancer rate pattern. | Jul 25 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yeah, that was never popular in Russia. | Jul 25 17:21 |
| msb_ | GMO and fluoride both cause cancer. | Jul 25 17:21 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: No fried chicken? | Jul 25 17:22 |
| oiaohm | msb_: missed Fluoride mostly because Russia water is normaly high on that. | Jul 25 17:22 |
| oiaohm | Pestisides and GMO can be problems as well. | Jul 25 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: On a pan in the oven, yes. | Jul 25 17:23 |
| msb_ | baked | Jul 25 17:23 |
| msb_ | and breaded | Jul 25 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I call it "fried" :) | Jul 25 17:23 |
| msb_ | But not an aluminum pan -- causes Alzheimer's. | Jul 25 17:24 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: sorry oven baked we don't call fried. | Jul 25 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: cast iron | Jul 25 17:24 |
| oiaohm | fried is the hot oil dip cooking method. | Jul 25 17:24 |
| msb_ | excellent! | Jul 25 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: An old good Soviet cast iron pan :). | Jul 25 17:25 |
| msb_ | I get canned salmon caught in Alaska, but I have to test it with a Geiger counter! | Jul 25 17:25 |
| oiaohm | Basically fried the highly not healthy method. | Jul 25 17:25 |
| oiaohm | msb_: techically aluminum does not cause Alzheimers but a condition that looks like it that is reversable. | Jul 25 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I for one eat "fried" (oven baked?) meal relatively rarely. | Jul 25 17:27 |
| msb_ | In the 80s or 90s, people were dialyzed against tapwater containing Al. The resulting Alzheimer's was not reversible. | Jul 25 17:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: there are particular things you have to add what you eat to allow you body to correctly remove Al | Jul 25 17:29 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: OK, what _do_ you do to your meat? | Jul 25 17:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: what? | Jul 25 17:29 |
| oiaohm | msb_: normal Alzheimers is a brain plaquing issue cause by a protein gone wrong. There as been some progress on getting the body to deal with that as well. | Jul 25 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Well, either "oven bake" or a soup. | Jul 25 17:30 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically research has moved on. | Jul 25 17:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: moved on? | Jul 25 17:31 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Is Alz a prion disease? | Jul 25 17:32 |
| msb_ | contagious protein? | Jul 25 17:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: As far as we know not contagious requires you DNA to produce a protein wrong. If it is contagious is a virus altering dna. | Jul 25 17:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: early Alzheimers reserach mixed Al posioned with damaged protein. | Jul 25 17:34 |
| msb_ | Pretty frequent for a mutation. Could it be epigenetic? | Jul 25 17:34 |
| msb_ | A virus would explain it too. | Jul 25 17:35 |
| oiaohm | That we know what causes the brain failure we don't know why it as common. | Jul 25 17:35 |
| msb_ | All my cats died of cancer. It must have been a virus. | Jul 25 17:35 |
| oiaohm | There is a virus in cats that causes cancer. | Jul 25 17:36 |
| oiaohm | Australia has researched it as a possiblity to kill off ferial cats. | Jul 25 17:36 |
| msb_ | Wonderful. When they did that in Europe tens of millions died from the Black Plague, carried by rats. | Jul 25 17:37 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if they were the same blood line it could be genenic or other toxity in envornement. | Jul 25 17:38 |
| oiaohm | We have lizards in Australia meant to do the cat role. | Jul 25 17:38 |
| msb_ | 4 cats related, one not. | Jul 25 17:38 |
| oiaohm | msb_: by that I would be a little worried. | Jul 25 17:39 |
| msb_ | I don't have anymore cats. | Jul 25 17:39 |
| msb_ | Why do Aussies prefer lizards to cats? | Jul 25 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Good thing it never reached Russia. I have two cats. | Jul 25 17:40 |
| msb_ | My sister and mother have cats living a lot longer than mine did. No cancer. | Jul 25 17:41 |
| oiaohm | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-17/melanoma-vaccine-giving-cancer-victims-hope/5396594 msb_ cancer vacines in Australia are not a new thing. Problem has been getting effectiveness up to where it is now. Yes workiug out how to trick the body to attack cancer and not to be deciding to forget all the time | Jul 25 17:42 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: the lizards are the natives. Lot of the local wild life have trouble getting away from cats | Jul 25 17:43 |
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| msb_ | Cats are superior beings! | Jul 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | meh | Jul 25 17:44 |
| oiaohm | I am not sure you would like a house cat after its been in australia for 4 generations. | Jul 25 17:44 |
| oiaohm | in the wild. | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | they help with nothing | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | cats are masters | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | in their own minds | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | dogs at least help with some stuff | Jul 25 17:45 |
| msb_ | cats kill rats. | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | mice maybe | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | rats can be very big | Jul 25 17:46 |
| msb_ | need wolves | Jul 25 17:46 |
| msb_ | or elephants to stomp 'em | Jul 25 17:46 |
| msb_ | Are lizards fast enough to catch big rats? | Jul 25 17:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goanna O yep. no problems catching a big rat | Jul 25 17:49 |
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| msb_ | What about Tasmanian Devils? When they spin fast enough they can make cone-shaped holes in trees! | Jul 25 17:49 |
| oiaohm | No Tasmanian Devils are nothing like the cartoon. | Jul 25 17:49 |
| oiaohm | Tasmanian devel jaw has crushing force greater than a gattor or croc | Jul 25 17:50 |
| msb_ | Goannas were mentioned in Crocodile Dundee. | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | [05:15] <amarsh04> schestowitz, was your reference to Banana Republic the UK as in the Boomtown Rats song or to Australia where the term had some use when Paul Keating was treasurer and later Prime Minister | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Did I say that? | Jul 25 17:51 |
| oiaohm | Tasmainian devils don't need to spin threw trees if they wish can bite their way threw trees. | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I quoted | Jul 25 17:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: normally of course Tasmainian devils don't like wood. | Jul 25 17:52 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Goannas are not as friendly as cats. They will if panics climb you with big nasty sharp claws. | Jul 25 17:58 |
| msb_ | Aren't there also lots of terribly poisonous spiders in Australia? | Jul 25 18:00 |
| oiaohm | Spiders and snakes. with nasty poisons. | Jul 25 18:02 |
| msb_ | Can they swim across the ocean? Should I worry? | Jul 25 18:03 |
| oiaohm | Just by freak of luck cats happen to be safe from a lot of the strongest ones. | Jul 25 18:03 |
| oiaohm | The snakes and spiders will not swim. | Jul 25 18:04 |
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| msb_ | Sounds like you need cats. I sure hope the govt doesn't start spreading cat cancer virus. | Jul 25 18:04 |
| oiaohm | But we have had them shipped from one side of Australia to the other than bite some one. | Jul 25 18:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes by ship | Jul 25 18:04 |
| oiaohm | Sydney funnel web bitting a person in perth at the docks has happened. | Jul 25 18:04 |
| oiaohm | So I would not be 100 percent sure that the that Australian spiders cannot get to other countries. | Jul 25 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/peacecompassion/status/624990183830609920 | Jul 25 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peacecompassion: @ggreenwald Who's Eli Lake again? | Jul 25 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | Bloomberg's Islamophob and Russophob for over a year now | Jul 25 18:15 |
| msb_ | There is a very good movie shot in Australia about a truck driver and a serial killer. | Jul 25 18:22 |
| msb_ | And a young woman they meet. | Jul 25 18:23 |
| msb_ | The actress is tall, blonde and has 3 names. | Jul 25 18:24 |
| msb_ | Road Games 1981 Jamie Lee Curtis | Jul 25 18:27 |
| msb_ | rumor has it that she is an XY with Androgen Insensitivity | Jul 25 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | > Ahh, ok, well they have a valid concern over our well publicized and | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > discussed BIOS freedom status. It's a problem that all higher end | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > hardware has since 2005, but we're working to solve it! (Do you care to | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > join our development effort in doing so?) | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > See below if you want to see details: | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/about-purism-and-librems-and-cake/ | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/freeing-the-bios-the-memory-init-stage/ | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/purism-software-freedom-deconstructed/ | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > I will begin to hang in #libreboot when I'm back off the road... | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks so much for writing Roy. | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully gave a headsup before it's too late (negative press coverage) | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6386453 | Jul 25 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Orthogonal policy making. When the #law is written and reshaped independently from people's will and usually directly against their interest | Jul 25 21:14 | |
| schestowitz | "But in support of the interests of The State. :)" | Jul 25 21:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Libreboot Adds Experimental ThinkPad R500 | Jul 25 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/Xujnf9bX7D | Jul 25 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 25 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Libreboot Adds Experimental ThinkPad R500 Support - Phoronix | Jul 25 21:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8adg | Jul 25 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 | Jul 25 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Experience - Gallery | Jul 25 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ze3lMDyBB5 (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 25 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8adh | Jul 25 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 Desktop Experience - Gallery - Softpedia | Jul 25 21:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu | Jul 25 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4PvxJARAC9 (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Jul 25 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu - LinuxAndUbuntu | Jul 25 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8aim | Jul 25 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In August 2015, The Linux Mint Developers Will | Jul 25 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Start Working At Linux Mint 17.3 | Jul 25 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tNTQZ3Abbf (linuxg.net) | Jul 25 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oxm8zUIxEZ (linuxg.net) | Jul 25 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | In August 2015, The Linux Mint Developers Will Start Working At Linux Mint 17.3 | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 21:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8ain | Jul 25 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Linux Mint 17.2 OEM And No Codecs Images Have Been Released | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 21:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/625046459642200064 | Jul 25 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz https://t.co/K9sgQ20HiO Managed to find it on #YouTube | Jul 25 21:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | HGUC 1/144 RX-78-2 GUNDAM PV(JPN Dub) - YouTube | Jul 25 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/P5W7moNgxa | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8arp | Jul 25 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/VhzCsgVgHb | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8arq | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Experience - Gallery | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2RCVnpcgqQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8ars | Jul 25 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 Desktop Experience - Gallery | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FDzkWrkL9p (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8art | Jul 25 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | BS or substantial? http://www.globalresearch.ca/chattanooga-shooter-linked-to-cia-fbi-asset-anwar-al-awlaki/5463949 | Jul 25 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Chattanooga Shooter Linked To CIA, FBI Asset Anwar Al-Awlaki | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/n8b26 ] | Jul 25 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HerterJochen followed @tuxmachines | Jul 25 22:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/VhzCsgVgHb' | Jul 25 22:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/the-building-thats-not-on-the-tourist-map/story-e6frfqb9-1227456727555 | Jul 25 22:51 |
| schestowitz | "I quickly snapped a shot. Later in my hotel room and on my computer, it only took minutes to find the iconic van Es shot. When I put my new shot alongside the old picture, sure enough, it was the same rooftop. Some of the cladding had changed over the past 40 years, but the balcony area gave it’s past away." | Jul 25 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | Saigon helicopter photo of Vietnam War rescue: CIA building not on tourist map [ http://ur1.ca/n8b57 ] | Jul 25 22:51 | |
| schestowitz | Grammar mistake | Jul 25 22:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/625060064332808192 | Jul 25 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz Shut down the CIA. | Jul 25 22:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Many New Features | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8uyV7rn7Hy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5r1r | Jul 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features | Tux Machines | Jul 19 00:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD 10.2 beta 2 http://t.co/0ToQA0qgag | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 10.2 beta 2 | Tux Machines | Jul 19 00:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5r1s | Jul 19 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Releases http://t.co/MhuZBhpYxH | Jul 19 00:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5r1t | Jul 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Releases | Tux Machines | Jul 19 00:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/2fomfzDWuJ | Jul 19 01:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5rfm | Jul 19 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jul 19 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/40zs6ibOgZ | Jul 19 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 19 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5rfo | Jul 19 01:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Ve2CWv9rL0 | Jul 19 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 19 01:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5rfp | Jul 19 01:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to squeeze more battery life from your | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux laptop http://t.co/NelDCaNB0m | Jul 19 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorld | Jul 19 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcworld.com) | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8n | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released! | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lFCwKRngBt (blog.linuxmint.com) | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8o | Jul 19 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released! | Jul 19 08:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you'll see this year http://t.co/y7YNAbWrTD | Jul 19 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jul 19 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device you'll see this year | The Verge | Jul 19 08:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Install Linux On http://t.co/vDHzcigdy6 | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.makeuseof.com) | Jul 19 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can Install Linux On | Jul 19 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vel | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hFUKLn38SQ (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 09:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait - Softpedia | Jul 19 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acceleration http://t.co/GBkH7yljxH | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware Acceleration | Tux Machines | Jul 19 09:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5ven | Jul 19 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 19 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 19 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YpAQVhUamo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vep | Jul 19 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Tux Machines | Jul 19 09:09 | |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Gatorau/status/622681767795929089 | Jul 19 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Gatorau: Because ethics. https://t.co/cWFQeKFuYK | Jul 19 09:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Torture approved: Why US psychological association's apology is not enough http://t.co/QPzQRzZMcB legal action needed, not early retirement | Jul 19 09:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/h4NnXdvc75 (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5voc | Jul 19 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell - Phoronix | Jul 19 09:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like a streaming hose of vid | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/N8fg7sPnvI (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jul 19 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vod | Jul 19 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly like a streaming hose of vid • The Register | Jul 19 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622668913386590208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622669396964675584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622670492969869312 | Jul 19 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts https://t.co/4nFSDkpL3G #games #gnu #linux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Feral Interactive look like they will soon be kings of the Linux porting business" https://t.co/uCK9L1Vdu7 #gnu #linux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feral Interactive Are Teasing Yet Another New Port | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop http://t.co/GfPCgbiMhT #gnu #linux | Jul 19 09:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorld | Jul 19 09:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, | Jul 19 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir | Jul 19 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - Softpedia | Jul 19 10:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5w4p | Jul 19 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro | Jul 19 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Many New Features | Jul 19 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UXObR6b9NX (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5w4q | Jul 19 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features - Softpedia | Jul 19 10:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 19 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 19 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) | Jul 19 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Alphr | Jul 19 18:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone...' | Jul 19 18:01 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 19 20:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the future of phones? http://t.co/09u9qBmgY6 | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n61cc | Jul 19 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/PzbXpWjgnX (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n61ce | Jul 19 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Jul 20 00:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oRbs2fCXHi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n643k | Jul 20 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Tux Machines | Jul 20 00:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: is | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | this the future of phones? | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (via @tuxmachines) | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n643l | Jul 20 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4 | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n648y | Jul 20 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for Kit Kat | Tux Machines | Jul 20 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/nqA5xtqvZZ | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6491 | Jul 20 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 20 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.2-rc3 http://t.co/kPEkIYcwOd | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6492 | Jul 20 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.2-rc3 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 01:11 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow....' | Jul 20 09:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful Looking | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next Month | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zbVURYYNex (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68no | Jul 20 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful Looking JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next Month | GamingOnLinux | Jul 20 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another stable release, #GlusterFS 3.5.5 is | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ready http://t.co/GZGwSBPcaU | Jul 20 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nixpanic.net | Nixpanic's Blog: Another stable release, GlusterFS 3.5.5 is ready | Jul 20 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.nixpanic.net) | Jul 20 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68np | Jul 20 09:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serial content tracker http://t.co/FZG7RTIZH8 | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker | Tux Machines | Jul 20 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68ze | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cyJ7TACBby (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zf | Jul 20 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Zk1coDDD3N (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zg | Jul 20 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8VpCThlk2b (techrights.org) | Jul 20 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zh | Jul 20 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | Techrights | Jul 20 09:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released | Jul 20 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already | Jul 20 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/60AGuZfaZD (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69fe | Jul 20 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update will Bring The Refunds For Purchased Apps Feature, The New Thumnailer And Many Other New Features | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 10:37 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ZaunzKenny followed @tuxmachines | Jul 20 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2G | Jul 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69xx | Jul 20 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 20 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.2-rc3 https://t.co/9j4GZxjvKl | Jul 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lkml.org) http://t.co/kIk1BVwrNw | Jul 20 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 4.2-rc3 | Jul 20 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69y0 | Jul 20 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.2 Release Candidate 3 with Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Jul 20 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5rizvUZBzz (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69z9 | Jul 20 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE - Phoronix | Jul 20 11:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the | Jul 20 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/aZPMsrh2TH | Jul 20 11:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69zd | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the future of phones? https://t.co/KoK1q9MQxN | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpit.com) | Jul 20 11:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69zf | Jul 20 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? - AndroidPIT | Jul 20 11:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/whdoNtywxy (www.itproportal.com) | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | proprietary | Jul 20 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | ITProPortal.com | Jul 20 11:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a19 | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Needs Testing http://t.co/JiCm2tnRDz | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a1a | Jul 20 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky | Jul 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serial content tracker http://t.co/gowqlQ1erZ | Jul 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jul 20 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker • The Register | Jul 20 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a1b | Jul 20 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a32 | Jul 20 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with 8 and 9.7 inch screen options | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KAO1uVDK4z (betanews.com) | Jul 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet with 8 and 9.7 inch screen options | Jul 20 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a33 | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available http://t.co/OzvxHM8USo | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently available | Jul 20 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a34 | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/GGS5waeMPw | Jul 20 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 20 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a35 | Jul 20 11:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bfnBg7RDDa (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6afp | Jul 20 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Different OS http://t.co/s2USKEFySW | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and Different OS - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6afq | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) low | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | marks | Jul 20 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6afs | Jul 20 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Alphr | Jul 20 12:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - Softpedia | Jul 20 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6awn | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 http://t.co/1v2WDa1LWs | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jul 20 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6awp | Jul 20 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 | Techrights | Jul 20 13:06 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 20 17:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 ‘Ubuntu Edition’ Smartphone Now | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everyone In EU http://t.co/36nC8mZBn8 | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tomshardware.com) | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e2d | Jul 20 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Meizu MX4 'Ubuntu Edition' Smartphone Now Everyone In EU | Jul 20 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “Meizu and Canonical chose to bring the MX4 | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition in Europe in a different way.” | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hlEPfcNcJA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e2e | Jul 20 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition Is Now Available for Purchase Freely in Europe - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e65 | Jul 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2G | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e52 | Jul 20 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PLUMgrid Joins @LinuxFoundation as Gold Member | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5pBKWhxOfj (news.sys-con.com) | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e95 | Jul 20 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sys-con.com | PLUMgrid Joins Linux Foundation as Gold Member | news.sys-con.com | Jul 20 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uFm735UcRm (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 20 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | ZDNet | Jul 20 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e96 | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/GhWM8h5Nfi | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e98 | Jul 20 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $109.99 http://t.co/G77DqRH9AS | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edl | Jul 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ql62x0Enw5 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edm | Jul 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for | Jul 20 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $109.99 http://t.co/VsnN9OFdXW (www.cnet.com) | Jul 20 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 - CNET | Jul 20 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edn | Jul 20 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: is | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by this the future of phones? | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @stanmobitech http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (via @tuxmachines) | Jul 20 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f06 | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JeckFMgrdL (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f07 | Jul 20 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux - Phoronix | Jul 20 18:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/ocMtcF1QSy | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4r | Jul 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/ISetn1PGVx | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4s | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tbIXXhzSlw (www.linux.com) | Jul 20 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4u | Jul 20 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Linux.com | Jul 20 18:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/ORvk61eQev | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (neptuneos.com) | Jul 20 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neptuneos.com | Neptune 4.4 Release - Neptune EN | Jul 20 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghf | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZLTvXTp1KU (kdenlive.org) | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Kdenlive 15.08 will be released with KDE | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08." | Jul 20 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org | Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | Kdenlive | Jul 20 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghg | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/crAKSiID0B (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghj | Jul 20 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/oIvE8C4Tm7 | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neptune 4.4 Release | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6glh | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapper http://t.co/r2hUUTQhs5 | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper - Phoronix | Jul 20 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6gli | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6glj | Jul 20 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux http://t.co/4k6WMYvneH | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h1y | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MWpn60wJzD (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h21 | Jul 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Linux Journal | Jul 20 21:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapper http://t.co/KqZkXfhaqk | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h22 | Jul 20 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper | Tux Machines | Jul 20 21:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Telegram in Fedora | Jul 21 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FX2sbimRnc (error) | Jul 21 00:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Aspyr Media Is Launching A New Linux Game | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomorrow http://t.co/3QRyKkFash | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 21 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Aspyr Media Is Launching A New Linux Game Tomorrow - Phoronix | Jul 21 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6j09 | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A solid experience with SolydXK | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ctn9R5f2tp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6j0a | Jul 21 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A solid experience with SolydXK | Tux Machines | Jul 21 00:37 | |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, you might find gvim more platable compared to vim or vi | Jul 21 00:40 |
| cubexyz | e.g. you can make the font bigger | Jul 21 00:41 |
| MinceR | and you have a menu and a toolbar | Jul 21 00:42 |
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| cubexyz | I do use kedit sometimes | Jul 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/623276428512116736 | Jul 21 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz Agreed but everyone will pay for a macdonalds ewww and this carrys liberty on the label! #upsideDownWorld | Jul 21 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | Only fools those who are lost causes | Jul 21 00:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says | Jul 21 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Jul 21 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/u8HjoxLA0x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 01:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/qPeDTUpCLo | Jul 21 01:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 01:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/l3eS3TGRcL | Jul 21 01:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 01:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/zA8HWZpxXc | Jul 21 01:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 01:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation Additions and Phoronix Catchup | Jul 21 01:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ZBTVMXaQHs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 01:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Additions and Phoronix Catchup | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/ufEvBp0ha2 | Jul 21 01:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 21 01:25 | |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: I tried nano, but it seems less intuitive than the mc editor. Since I already use mc as my filemanager, the good integration of its editor is helpful. | Jul 21 02:06 |
| msb__ | The only thing I miss is being able to invoke a program (e.g. in C) upon the selected text from within the editor. Now I have to write out the selection to the edit buffer file (one keystroke), run the program (e.g. 3 keystrokes), delete the selection (one keystroke), and read back the modified edit buffer file (one keystroke). | Jul 21 02:09 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I remember what the difference is | Jul 21 02:11 |
| oiaohm | nano makes it really fast to copy and duplicate lines. | Jul 21 02:11 |
| oiaohm | mcedit is better with mouse | Jul 21 02:11 |
| MinceR | vim makes it fast too | Jul 21 02:13 |
| msb__ | F3 selects words, lines, or columns | Jul 21 02:13 |
| MinceR | and gvim is even better with mouse :> | Jul 21 02:13 |
| oiaohm | msb__: Ctrl-K the Cut Text in nano default is cut a complete line | Jul 21 02:13 |
| MinceR | in vim, cut a line is dd | Jul 21 02:13 |
| msb__ | F5 copies selection to cursor, F6 moves selection to cursor. | Jul 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have dyslexia so remember key commands that at not displayed on screen is problemmatic. | Jul 21 02:14 |
| msb__ | what could be faster? Selection is shown in reverse video. | Jul 21 02:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i see | Jul 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | vim and emacs don't get along with me. | Jul 21 02:15 |
| oiaohm | nano and mcedit are workable. | Jul 21 02:15 |
| msb__ | vim is too primitive and emacs too complicated for me. | Jul 21 02:17 |
| oiaohm | msb__: not really vim can do everything emacs can. | Jul 21 02:17 |
| oiaohm | But its how many hoops are you willing to jump through to get there. | Jul 21 02:18 |
| msb__ | right | Jul 21 02:18 |
| oiaohm | and some things vim does simplely are extreamly hard in emacs | Jul 21 02:18 |
| msb__ | "Emacs is a great operating system. All it needs is a good editor." | Jul 21 02:18 |
| oiaohm | Main reason I don't use either I screw up the keyboard codes all the time. | Jul 21 02:18 |
| MinceR | vim is many things, 'primitive' is not one of those things | Jul 21 02:18 |
| MinceR | and there's a good editor for emacs, it's called "evil" | Jul 21 02:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: does it have on screen display of the commands in a usable memu. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| oiaohm | If so I will look at it. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| MinceR | no, but you can display a cheat-sheet beside it :) | Jul 21 02:20 |
| cubexyz | there's gvim and kvim | Jul 21 02:20 |
| msb__ | I meant the UI of vim seems primitive to me. | Jul 21 02:20 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of kvim, only yzis (or what it was) | Jul 21 02:20 |
| MinceR | i think the UI is pretty good -- you have easy-to-remember and easy-to-type commands and you have a command line | Jul 21 02:21 |
| oiaohm | When I am stuck on terminal its nano or mcedit for me. | Jul 21 02:21 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for nvim to get a GUI | Jul 21 02:21 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, maybe I'm wrong about kvim | Jul 21 02:22 |
| cubexyz | I thought it existed | Jul 21 02:22 |
| MinceR | ("evil" is a vi emulation mode that isn't designed to convert you to using emacs without it, unlike viper) | Jul 21 02:22 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of people out there like me who just simple cannot cope with the idea of a command line driven editor. | Jul 21 02:22 |
| cubexyz | so what did you use in the 1980s? | Jul 21 02:22 |
| MinceR | well, it's not exactly "driver" by it but it's there when you need it | Jul 21 02:22 |
| MinceR | s/ver/ven/ | Jul 21 02:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: pico | Jul 21 02:23 |
| oiaohm | pico was the editor out of the email package called pine and nano is a reimplementation of it. | Jul 21 02:23 |
| MinceR | i used pico or nano when i was setting up gentoo | Jul 21 02:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes pico and nano that identical unless you remember the command you run you cannot tell the difference. | Jul 21 02:24 |
| msb__ | In mc, when you return to a previously edited file, the cursor goes to the same place you left it last time. Do those other editors do that? | Jul 21 02:24 |
| MinceR | vim can be set up to do that, i have | Jul 21 02:24 |
| cubexyz | I see now kvim existed but it was orphaned | Jul 21 02:25 |
| msb__ | My favorite editor was BRIEF in PCDOS. There's a Linux version for about $150. | Jul 21 02:26 |
| oiaohm | msb__: pico and nano both support +100 for move from start of file down 100 lines and so on. By default nano and pico just go to start. | Jul 21 02:26 |
| oiaohm | Mind you both nano and pico are design to operate without needing a configuration file. | Jul 21 02:27 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: But I want the cursor to go where I left it last time. | Jul 21 02:27 |
| MinceR | actually it's not set up here, but i could find the way to set it up | Jul 21 02:28 |
| cubexyz | found kvim :) | Jul 21 02:28 |
| cubexyz | looks like 2003 era | Jul 21 02:28 |
| MinceR | http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Restore_cursor_to_file_position_in_previous_editing_session | Jul 21 02:28 |
| msb__ | MinceR: But not in vim. Don't like vim. | Jul 21 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vim.wikia.com | Restore cursor to file position in previous editing session - Vim Tips Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/n6juz ] | Jul 21 02:28 | |
| cubexyz | how far back does pico go? | Jul 21 02:29 |
| msb__ | my mceditor has a 1024 line filepos file. | Jul 21 02:30 |
| MinceR | as far as pine does, i think | Jul 21 02:30 |
| cubexyz | weird kvim has all this gtk stuff in it | Jul 21 02:31 |
| cubexyz | on Xenix and Venix and old BSD it was always vi I used | Jul 21 02:31 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I knew there was a difference. +line,column is support by nano command line where mcedit only supports going to a line number. | Jul 21 02:32 |
| cubexyz | in the IBM mainframe world I used XEDIT | Jul 21 02:32 |
| oiaohm | msb__: yes nano does not remember where you were last time. But reading a gcc error with error on X line number X column nano is great. | Jul 21 02:32 |
| cubexyz | of course on really old Unix you had ed | Jul 21 02:32 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: mcedit returns to the same line and character as it was last on. | Jul 21 02:33 |
| MinceR | ed is the standard text editor. | Jul 21 02:33 |
| MinceR | http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html | Jul 21 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Ed, man! !man ed- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Jul 21 02:33 | |
| oiaohm | msb__: it returns to the last position it was on because it writing into a log file. | Jul 21 02:34 |
| oiaohm | msb__: stuff like embeded devices mcedit is not exactly the best. | Jul 21 02:34 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: Correct ~/.mc/filepos | Jul 21 02:34 |
| oiaohm | Depending on what I am working depends if I am nano or mcedit | Jul 21 02:35 |
| oiaohm | Both have their place. | Jul 21 02:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emmabuntus 3: take it all | Jul 21 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6NO34O5mLE (linuxblog.darkduck.com) | Jul 21 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Emmabuntus 3: take it all - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Jul 21 10:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emmabuntus 3: take it all | Jul 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/swUztnqj5r (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6oz8 | Jul 21 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmabuntus 3: take it all | Tux Machines | Jul 21 10:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in | Jul 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Approximately 6 Weeks http://t.co/OUBzE7czm1 | Jul 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/kBXFriGTaS | Jul 21 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in Approximately 6 Weeks - Softpedia | Jul 21 10:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 21 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Applying the Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update on BQ Aquaris E4.5 - Softpedia | Jul 21 10:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6oz9 | Jul 21 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.10http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-5-Ubuntu-15.10-Step-2 | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6p78 | Jul 21 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu 15.10 - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/n6p79 ] | Jul 21 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Profile of an Everyday FOSS Developer | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oG0KkItXWP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6p7a | Jul 21 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Profile of an Everyday FOSS Developer | Tux Machines | Jul 21 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Approximately 6 Weeks http://t.co/Rq5xxoxxdS | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6p7b | Jul 21 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in Approximately 6 Weeks | Tux Machines | Jul 21 11:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy, | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > on Sunday afternoon I noticed one or two ads "ControlRisks" on an innocent web page ( www.phonostar.de - as far as I remember). I then cleared all cookies in my Firefox (using on OpenSuse Tumbleweed). | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I cannot remember anymore, whether it was really Control Risks Group (CRG), but I think, it was. | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > Any idea, if I should enter into "panic mode", or better calm down, because they are buying such ads now and then ??? | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I am writing this now on a different, quasi air-gapped computer, and using Tails, which I trust. | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Control Risks Group (CRG) has no reason to openly advertise. They'd get clients through other routes, and not even disclsoure who they work for. Their name, Control Risks, is so generic, that they are very hard to google. | Jul 21 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | I do often wonder how I can find out who works for them and their professional background. Even LinkedIn wouldn't reveal "Employer" such as GCHQ, so you must go by project names etc. Like the ICWatch thing, now hosted on Wikileaks (following death threats)... | Jul 21 11:50 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368110 | Jul 21 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: A secret option in your Android phone can help make it work faster http://uk.businessinsider.com/speed-up-your-android-smartphone-2015-7?op=1?r=US&IR=T | Jul 21 11:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Where is the private joke ?" | Jul 21 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Speed up your Android smartphone - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/n6pha ] | Jul 21 11:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Medo4Gaza/status/623443944865710084 | Jul 21 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Medo4Gaza: @schestowitz Help make it 4 doctor in #Gaza to reach #Germany & be Surgeon Gaza needs http://t.co/rmk8OLSWyN #Donate #RT #SurgeonToBe | Jul 21 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiegogo.com | Train a New Gazan Surgeon in Germany for Gaza | Indiegogo | Jul 21 11:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu | Jul 21 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.10 http://t.co/Z09bCVEgAT | Jul 21 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 12:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pn0 | Jul 21 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu 15.10 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 of the best soccer (most call it football) | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | apps for Android smartphones and tablets | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/76CiOWT6Al (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pn1 | Jul 21 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the best soccer (most call it football) apps for Android smartphones and tablets | Jul 21 12:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 20 best new Android apps and games this week | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G3OSZQssQV (www.theguardian.com) | Jul 21 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pn2 | Jul 21 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | 20 best new Android apps and games this week | Technology | The Guardian | Jul 21 12:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0, | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new evidence shows http://t.co/NXr3EyWYk0 | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 21 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0, new evidence shows | Jul 21 12:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pox | Jul 21 12:12 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: found my kdm issue its annoying starting at the wrong point to Nvidia driver interface registration. Turns out the log files of X11 and KDM say nothing useful. | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony starts software beta for a refreshed take | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Android http://t.co/7FGvEBzT43 | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidguys.com) | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6poz | Jul 21 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidguys.com | Sony starts software beta for a refreshed take on Android | Jul 21 12:12 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @zeitdice favourited '20 best new Android apps and games this...' | Jul 21 12:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Android Tablets from Samsung | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Sp124D6fRi (www.wired.com) | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pu0 | Jul 21 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | New Android Tablets from Samsung | WIRED | Jul 21 12:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo's | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | best games http://t.co/ysj2Q3OtQg | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.engadget.com) | Jul 21 12:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pu1 | Jul 21 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo's best games | Jul 21 12:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ZeldaWiiUNews/status/623454033659994112 | Jul 21 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ZeldaWiiUNews: <3 https://t.co/7qlnq8RAqX | Jul 21 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If #Nintendo ever makes an #Android smartphone, it should look like this http://t.co/Xiiay36Tuk #linux | Jul 21 12:26 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368303 | Jul 21 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With arrogant grin, #patent lawyers work to derail #patents reform http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/413928/Patent/Three+Things+You+Need+To+Know+About+The+Latest+Patent+Reform+Legislation http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/413936/Patent/Has+the+war+on+patent+trolls+caused+collateral+damage" title="Has The War On Patent Trolls Caused Collateral Damage? | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mondaq.com | Three Things You Need To Know About The Latest Patent Reform Legislation - Intellectual Property - United States [ http://ur1.ca/n6q2m ] | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mondaq.com | Has The War On Patent Trolls Caused Collateral Damage? - Intellectual Property - United States [ http://ur1.ca/n6q2n ] | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367713 | Jul 21 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "800 year anniversary of Magna Carta last month - I wonder how I missed all the celebrations?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367398 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “you know you have rights and then you're told they don't exist because of national security” https://www.freemattdehart.com/ @PaulJDeHart @Leann02 | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Magna Carta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n6h6s ] | Jul 21 12:47 | |
| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/21/us-toshiba-accounting-stocks-idUSKCN0PV0B620150721 | Jul 21 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Toshiba CEO quits over accounting scandal | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/n6q7e ] | Jul 21 12:59 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 21 17:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DisquietedMuse/status/623475314514112512 | Jul 21 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DisquietedMuse: Totally agree @schestowitz but isn't the secret sauce layered security & apps within? Push for institutions to widely revert to #Linux ??? | Jul 21 17:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | choosing Windows is choosing something which is known, by intention, to be insecure. GNU/Linux not perfect, but aspiring to be secure | Jul 21 17:14 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369728 | Jul 21 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #games "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feeling-angry-hatred-looks-like-it-will-come-to-linux.5690 #gnu #linux | Jul 21 17:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Can i shoot politicians like G.Bush (Junior and Senior) in this game? if not - i am not gonna buy it. :-p" | Jul 21 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/n6suv ] | Jul 21 17:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Going to skip this one, methinks." | Jul 21 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Can only shoot the powerless... and Noriega | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369783 | Jul 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Norway updates list of IT procurement templates https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/144647 don't put brand names there, bar proprietary malware | Jul 21 17:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jul 21 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Norway updates list of IT procurement templates | Joinup | Jul 21 17:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | i don t understand the problem. | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | bar proprietary malware ? | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | Bar them from procuring proprietary software with back doors, i.e. malware | Jul 21 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369476 | Jul 21 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 provides the latest and greatest back doors. And folks from #microsoft say it's not even stable and nowhere near ready. | Jul 21 17:21 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Just curious. Why do some people call it “Vista8” or “Vista10”? Is the kernel used in 8 and 10 the same as in Vista, and different from XP and 98, for example?" | Jul 21 17:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I coined these term to remind people that there's DRM and lots of other issues still inside | Jul 21 17:22 |
| r_schestowitz | *terms | Jul 21 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | Windows 10 is no longer like Vista. | Jul 21 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | It's far worse now. | Jul 21 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | Update subscriptions | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, it keeps getting worse | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | thankfully, not many people buy into it | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | adoption rates of Windows have fallen | Jul 21 17:23 |
| r_schestowitz | this is why pricing tricks are making it easier to entrap people and get them 'hooked' (lock in) on 'cloud' | Jul 21 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | Christians are always wrong. | Jul 21 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | They think angels live in the cloud. | Jul 21 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | But it's the Devil himself. | Jul 21 17:25 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6370603 | Jul 21 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de: #capitalism #fail #humanrights #humanity #finance #poverty | Jul 21 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by anonymiss@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_8ad8a8b17bd143490531.jpg | Jul 21 17:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Shit processed food." | Jul 21 17:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Merchandising | Jul 21 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | Jul 21 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gtIrR8Cgvi (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 21 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 17:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Trends: Part 1 http://t.co/7mWjYSNsO4 | Jul 21 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjaminkerensa.com | Ubuntu Trends: Part 1 – Benjamin Kerensa | Jul 21 17:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (benjaminkerensa.com) | Jul 21 17:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Trends, Mozilla Thunderbird, Canonical | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing http://t.co/UdYFKJvyFu | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Trends, Mozilla Thunderbird, Canonical Licensing | Tux Machines | Jul 21 17:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux game review: OpenTTD | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HjqYn9skXS (opensource.com) | Jul 21 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | A look at OpenTTD, an open source game for Linux | Opensource.com | Jul 21 17:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux? | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/zrft5IGFA0 (www.itworld.com) | Jul 21 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux? | ITworld | Jul 21 17:49 | |
| xiso | Don't think win kernal has changed much since original vista. | Jul 21 18:00 |
| xiso | Just UI changes - like monkeys throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks. | Jul 21 18:01 |
| xiso | DRM got worse with each reiteration of win version after vista. | Jul 21 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pisi Linux 1.2 Screencast and Screenshots | Jul 21 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/N4gdJimyEX (www.linuxquestions.org) | Jul 21 18:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Screencast and Screenshots | Jul 21 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Satellite Rush Is an Awesome Roguelike Shooter | Jul 21 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux http://t.co/nV9Gw5Njkh | Jul 21 18:04 |
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| r_schestowitz | it's the same code | Jul 21 23:21 |
| r_schestowitz | they just add more crap to it | Jul 21 23:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 is out now. Distro | Jul 21 23:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phone | Jul 22 00:08 |
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| cubexyz | klipper's history is strange | Jul 22 00:39 |
| cubexyz | it's interpersed with nulls | Jul 22 00:39 |
| cubexyz | also ctrl-y and ctrl-l's | Jul 22 00:41 |
| MinceR | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-21/470000-vehicles-risk-after-hackers-take-control-crash-jeep-cherokee-sofa-10-miles-aw | Jul 22 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | 470,000 Vehicles At Risk After Hackers "Take Control & Crash" Jeep Cherokee From A Sofa 10 Miles Away | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/n6xq1 ] | Jul 22 00:56 | |
| cubexyz | ok, strings klipper-history.txt seems to help a lot | Jul 22 00:57 |
| cubexyz | no idea why all those control codes are in there | Jul 22 00:57 |
| MinceR | maybe klipper keeps some metadata in them | Jul 22 00:58 |
| cubexyz | doubtless KDE >4.0 is different again | Jul 22 00:58 |
| MinceR | like "this came from PRIMARY, this came from CLIPBOARD" | Jul 22 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think rasterized images can be in there too | Jul 22 01:00 |
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| cubexyz | definitely not straight text though | Jul 22 01:01 |
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| cubexyz | I assume it's possible to "dcop klipper something" | Jul 22 01:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. | Jul 22 01:13 |
| cubexyz | dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents 12345 | Jul 22 01:13 |
| cubexyz | that will add the text 12345 to klipper's history | Jul 22 01:14 |
| MinceR | at least in kde3 and tde | Jul 22 01:15 |
| MinceR | kde4 uses dbus instead | Jul 22 01:16 |
| MinceR | which sucks | Jul 22 01:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, a bit tricky to cover every case | Jul 22 01:16 |
| cubexyz | there used to be an actually book for KDE | Jul 22 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I think it only covered KDE 2 | Jul 22 01:17 |
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| cubexyz | dcop klipper klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu | Jul 22 01:22 |
| cubexyz | there we go, all automatic | Jul 22 01:23 |
| cubexyz | why use dbus suck? | Jul 22 01:23 |
| cubexyz | er | Jul 22 01:23 |
| cubexyz | why does dbus suck? | Jul 22 01:23 |
| MinceR | it's overcomplicated and it's intended to serve for the entire system, not just an X session | Jul 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | and yet it's not designed to be restartable | Jul 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | you're supposed to reboot, like in poettering's favorite OS | Jul 22 01:25 |
| MinceR | (clients won't reconnect to the new dbus instance or something like that) | Jul 22 01:26 |
| MinceR | also, sending a message requires specifying an FQDN 3 times, using 2 different formats | Jul 22 01:26 |
| MinceR | which is ridiculous | Jul 22 01:26 |
| MinceR | also, introspection tends to fail and the application doing it tends to crash | Jul 22 01:26 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, even openbsd seems to use dbus-daemon | Jul 22 01:26 |
| cubexyz | there seems to be a battle between the old and the new all the time | Jul 22 01:30 |
| cubexyz | but at least dcop lives on in trinity | Jul 22 01:30 |
| cubexyz | on vector linux I've kept up with the KDE 3.5.10 stuff | Jul 22 01:36 |
| cubexyz | on openbsd I'm using a combination of icewm and components of xfce | Jul 22 01:36 |
| cubexyz | if I run a KDE 3.5.10 application on openbsd then dcop kicks in | Jul 22 01:38 |
| cubexyz | I think openbsd still uses KDE 3.5.10 actually | Jul 22 01:38 |
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| amarsh04 | still running KDE 3.5.9/10 on this machine, had to recompile one library for it to run with newer kernels | Jul 22 01:56 |
| cubexyz | which library? | Jul 22 02:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Review : Second Ubuntu Phone | Jul 22 02:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With Improved hardware http://t.co/6elFlQfHmD | Jul 22 02:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source experts sound off on Canonical's IP | Jul 22 02:18 |
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| amarsh04 | cubexyz, let me check | Jul 22 02:19 |
| amarsh04 | cubexyz, kdelibs4c2a | Jul 22 02:20 |
| cubexyz | amarsh04, ok thanks, that's interesting info | Jul 22 02:20 |
| oiaohm | There was also the dirty trick to force Linux kernel into old version emulation mode. | Jul 22 02:21 |
| oiaohm | Rebuilding the 1 library for those staying back that far was the best. | Jul 22 02:21 |
| oiaohm | Found the cause of my once in a blue moon dhcpd drop outs on one system. dhcpcd was installed instead of dhcpcd5 | Jul 22 02:26 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: Did you get the complete p system running with konsole/mc in any of your systems? | Jul 22 02:33 |
| cubexyz | msb__, haven't tried it as yet | Jul 22 02:34 |
| cubexyz | but it should be possible | Jul 22 02:34 |
| cubexyz | there's .viminfo | Jul 22 02:42 |
| cubexyz | I'll have to adjust the script | Jul 22 02:42 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I think I was using a program called xselection previously. | Jul 22 02:42 |
| amarsh04 | running Debian, which dropped support for KDE 3.5.x earlier than some other distributions | Jul 22 02:43 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jul 22 02:44 |
| cubexyz | also I don't have qdbus | Jul 22 02:44 |
| cubexyz | but I think I can adjust it for dcop | Jul 22 02:44 |
| msb__ | you can get qdbus if you need it, right? | Jul 22 02:45 |
| oiaohm | msb__: using trinity yes qdbus is not part of qt3 | Jul 22 02:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I think I've managed to adjust it | Jul 22 02:50 |
| cubexyz | how do I use it? | Jul 22 02:50 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I found the old p system! p used to be a function in .bashrc -- http://cosmicpenguin.com/p.old.zip | Jul 22 03:05 |
| msb__ | That old one uses xselection | Jul 22 03:05 |
| msb__ | ok, you have two konsoles in two different directories. run mc in each one. | Jul 22 03:06 |
| msb__ | You have p in your path, along with the scripts that it calls. | Jul 22 03:07 |
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| msb__ | In the first directory, you have a file. Put the mc cursor on that file. Type p <alt-enter> | Jul 22 03:09 |
| cubexyz | ok I see $ p xs | Jul 22 03:11 |
| msb__ | go to the konsole in the second directory. Actually it does not have to have mc in it. type cp <middle-mouse-button> . That will copy the file into the second directory. | Jul 22 03:11 |
| msb__ | Yikes, don't be root! | Jul 22 03:12 |
| msb__ | You are experimenting! | Jul 22 03:12 |
| cubexyz | I'm not | Jul 22 03:12 |
| cubexyz | root prompt is # | Jul 22 03:13 |
| msb__ | oh | Jul 22 03:13 |
| msb__ | So it is. My non-root prompt is all fancy, so I don't know what it is! | Jul 22 03:14 |
| cubexyz | hold on a sec | Jul 22 03:15 |
| cubexyz | there's a script called xsel plus there's the command xsel | Jul 22 03:15 |
| msb__ | In the new system? | Jul 22 03:15 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jul 22 03:16 |
| msb__ | you have the xsel script in your path, right. Doesn't giving the command xsel just call that? | Jul 22 03:18 |
| msb__ | If not, where and what is the command xsel? | Jul 22 03:18 |
| cubexyz | xsel is /usr/local/bin/xsel | Jul 22 03:18 |
| cubexyz | but it's also the script name.. I think the first one gets priority | Jul 22 03:19 |
| cubexyz | xsel is the command to manipulate X selection | Jul 22 03:19 |
| msb__ | I don't have /usr/local/bin/xsel | Jul 22 03:19 |
| cubexyz | I may have compiled it | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | wait, openbsd has it too | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | so I don't think I did | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | part of X | Jul 22 03:20 |
| cubexyz | may not be in every distro | Jul 22 03:21 |
| msb__ | I been robbed! I coulda been a billionaire! | Jul 22 03:21 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'll just rename the xsel script | Jul 22 03:21 |
| msb__ | right, and the calls to it | Jul 22 03:21 |
| cubexyz | I think p is the only script that calls xsel (which I will now call xsel1) | Jul 22 03:23 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, xs also calls it | Jul 22 03:24 |
| cubexyz | ok I think it worked | Jul 22 03:25 |
| cubexyz | I've adapted your pfile stuff to dcop | Jul 22 03:25 |
| msb__ | Yay! | Jul 22 03:25 |
| cubexyz | also vim :) | Jul 22 03:25 |
| cubexyz | I can't remember ever using xsel | Jul 22 03:28 |
| msb__ | That's how I work. 20 virtual desktops, purpose oriented. 1-5 konsoles in each one, with mc in them, aimed at the relevant directories for that purpose. p system -- textmode drag-n-drop -- for copying, moving, comparing files between directories. | Jul 22 03:29 |
| msb__ | Does vim do file management? | Jul 22 03:30 |
| cubexyz | there's vifm | Jul 22 03:30 |
| cubexyz | it's actually similar to mc | Jul 22 03:31 |
| msb__ | For older systems, the stuff in p.old.zip should work. Doesn't use klipper (or qdbus) at all. The p function should be a script. | Jul 22 03:34 |
| cubexyz | now theres a third version :) | Jul 22 03:35 |
| msb__ | Great! | Jul 22 03:35 |
| msb__ | Would you please zip up all the scripts and send it to me? | Jul 22 03:35 |
| cubexyz | zip doesn't seem very unixy to me but ok :) | Jul 22 03:36 |
| cubexyz | we can debate the niceties later | Jul 22 03:38 |
| cubexyz | I didn't delete any lines, just commented them out | Jul 22 03:39 |
| cubexyz | so edbuf was changed to ~/.viminfo | Jul 22 03:40 |
| msb__ | Don't mix any of the files from the three versions on the same system. It could cause a chronosynclastic infundibulum. | Jul 22 03:40 |
| cubexyz | since I use vim in mc | Jul 22 03:40 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pfiles-for-kde3.zip | Jul 22 03:41 |
| cubexyz | also xsel should be renamed I think | Jul 22 03:42 |
| cubexyz | which I did | Jul 22 03:42 |
| msb__ | Thanks! | Jul 22 03:43 |
| msb__ | That's almost as dangerous as a polyphase quasitron! | Jul 22 03:44 |
| cubexyz | it's a pity I can't talk to most of my friends about this stuff | Jul 22 03:45 |
| cubexyz | it's blah blah powershell | Jul 22 03:46 |
| oiaohm | I just got 500 megs of space back sometimes debian updating is stupid. Updated wesnorth installed all new campainfiles and left all the version before ones that it was never going to use installed. | Jul 22 03:46 |
| msb__ | It's pretty simple. At least it was before systemd, pulseaudio, and kde4 | Jul 22 03:46 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I would not systemd has been all bad. Something are better. | Jul 22 03:47 |
| cubexyz | I'm probably the biggest traditionalist around here :) | Jul 22 03:47 |
| oiaohm | kde4 I have got use to. | Jul 22 03:48 |
| oiaohm | Windows deploying applications in a large network is hell. | Jul 22 03:48 |
| oiaohm | Windows you have guess the process as well. | Jul 22 03:48 |
| msb__ | I was a pro at PCDOS. XTREE was my favorite tool. I had about 80 categorized utilities. All on a hardshell floppy I'd carry around to jobs. | Jul 22 03:49 |
| msb__ | I still have to stop myself from calling shell script "batch files". | Jul 22 03:49 |
| msb__ | scripts | Jul 22 03:50 |
| cubexyz | see, that's the evil Microsoft influence right there :) | Jul 22 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Here is something super fun I had recently with Windows. | Jul 22 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Hp laptop dead harddrive. | Jul 22 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Guess what no Windows drivers on the HP site and just to be worse generic retail disc does not install. So pay HP dollars to send you a new install set. | Jul 22 03:51 |
| cubexyz | msb__, didn't you use computers before microsoft existed? | Jul 22 03:51 |
| cubexyz | you can remember the golden age | Jul 22 03:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I remember the microbees | Jul 22 03:51 |
| cubexyz | DEC used to be mighty | Jul 22 03:52 |
| cubexyz | now they are gone | Jul 22 03:52 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBee << cubexyz | Jul 22 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MicroBee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 22 03:52 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: LINC, PDP-8, in high school, something from a cash-register company with a drum but no RAM. | Jul 22 03:53 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, yes there's a kit too for that | Jul 22 03:53 |
| cubexyz | but the snobs want mini-computers | Jul 22 03:55 |
| cubexyz | even though they're power hungry | Jul 22 03:55 |
| msb__ | Had a beautiful front panel for an S100 computer, but never built it. | Jul 22 03:55 |
| msb__ | My first functional home computer was an IBM-PC 8088. | Jul 22 03:56 |
| msb__ | Filled out the RAM, put a 720 track floppy on it, and eventually a 25MB hard drive. | Jul 22 03:57 |
| cubexyz | when did you get into Linux? | Jul 22 03:58 |
| oiaohm | me 1994-1995 | Jul 22 03:59 |
| oiaohm | BSD before that. | Jul 22 03:59 |
| oiaohm | And Unix before that. | Jul 22 03:59 |
| msb__ | Unix in the 90s sometime. Had an account on a UCSF Unix computer, and talked to it with a terminal emulator I wrote in BASIC on the IBMPC. | Jul 22 04:00 |
| cubexyz | a pity you didn't work on PDP-11s | Jul 22 04:01 |
| msb__ | Don't remember what kind of Unix. But I would log out and it would keep on charging me! | Jul 22 04:01 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did you ever work on Vax? | Jul 22 04:01 |
| oiaohm | Australia where I was no such thing. | Jul 22 04:02 |
| oiaohm | Dec alpha yes. | Jul 22 04:02 |
| msb__ | I programmed on PDP-6/10. | Jul 22 04:02 |
| cubexyz | PDP-6... wow I can't even remember those at all | Jul 22 04:02 |
| cubexyz | precessor to PDP-10? | Jul 22 04:03 |
| msb__ | It ran the whole university. Had a live-in engineer. | Jul 22 04:03 |
| msb__ | yep | Jul 22 04:03 |
| cubexyz | predecessor | Jul 22 04:03 |
| cubexyz | I worked on PDP-10 for a while | Jul 22 04:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where I was went from PDP-11 to Aphas completely skipped Vax | Jul 22 04:04 |
| msb__ | two bits of the accumulator was a pc board about 2 foot by 2 foot. | Jul 22 04:04 |
| cubexyz | vector display I think? | Jul 22 04:04 |
| msb__ | Can't remember the (or any) display. | Jul 22 04:05 |
| msb__ | Had 6 teletypes. | Jul 22 04:05 |
| oiaohm | The alpha workstations I missed. | Jul 22 04:06 |
| oiaohm | It was horible going back to a PC from them. | Jul 22 04:06 |
| oiaohm | 32 inch screens 24 bit color and a fairly high res screen 1992 | Jul 22 04:07 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did you ever run windows on the Dec Alphas? | Jul 22 04:07 |
| oiaohm | No they were all the au types | Jul 22 04:07 |
| oiaohm | So NT would not install even if you wanted to. | Jul 22 04:07 |
| msb__ | I programmed a flying-spot scanner to input nanosecond oscilloscope polaroids into the PDP-6. It ran on a PDP-8, using an oscilloscope and photomultiplier tube. Programmed in assembly on the PDP8 and Fortran on the PDP-6. | Jul 22 04:08 |
| cubexyz | just as well | Jul 22 04:08 |
| oiaohm | I did see NT on straight a | Jul 22 04:08 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it was the most stable I ever saw windows run. | Jul 22 04:08 |
| cubexyz | I guess Alpha is completely dead now | Jul 22 04:09 |
| cubexyz | msb__, from what I understand PDP-6 was very rare | Jul 22 04:10 |
| cubexyz | you're lucky you got a chance to work on one | Jul 22 04:10 |
| msb__ | 36-bit words! | Jul 22 04:12 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Alpha has not even been revived as a fpga. | Jul 22 04:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so Alpha as a design is truly dead. | Jul 22 04:16 |
| cubexyz | compaq killed alpha | Jul 22 04:16 |
| cubexyz | which was bizarre... paved the way for intel to just about take over | Jul 22 04:17 |
| msb__ | Only Fortran on the pdp6. Later SunOS on Sparcs and some kind of 386 Unix box at Stanford. | Jul 22 04:18 |
| cubexyz | there was Sun 386 | Jul 22 04:18 |
| msb__ | did C on those and on my PC. | Jul 22 04:18 |
| msb__ | yup, that was it | Jul 22 04:19 |
| cubexyz | so instead of having Suns and Sparcs and Alphas we have wintel and vista and win8 | Jul 22 04:20 |
| oiaohm | Sparc design is still half alive. | Jul 22 04:21 |
| cubexyz | well not us as such | Jul 22 04:21 |
| cubexyz | we could be running AMD/Linux | Jul 22 04:21 |
| msb__ | exactly what I run | Jul 22 04:21 |
| msb__ | cheap and powerful | Jul 22 04:22 |
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| oiaohm | opensparc what is sparc in fpga exists. | Jul 22 04:22 |
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| msb__ | "yocto" means 10^-24. I doubt that it's _that_ tiny. | Jul 22 04:25 |
| cubexyz | Yocto as in the "Yocto Project" | Jul 22 04:26 |
| cubexyz | Linux for embedded systems | Jul 22 04:26 |
| msb__ | These metric prefixes are starting to sound Yiddish. | Jul 22 04:27 |
| oiaohm | msb__: some of those metric prefixes almost make me thing someone wrote them when they were off their face | Jul 22 04:28 |
| cubexyz | derived from Greek I think | Jul 22 04:29 |
| msb__ | off their face? Does that mean on their ass? | Jul 22 04:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: how it is deried is the issue. | Jul 22 04:30 |
| msb__ | "He's a real yocto goniff!" That's got to mean something insulting in Yiddish. Almost everything in Yiddish is an insult, at least the way my relatives spoke it. | Jul 22 04:30 |
| oiaohm | Zeta how will we derived from this to get ISO word. yep Zetta Almost exactly the same sound. | Jul 22 04:31 |
| cubexyz | all 18th and 19th century gentlemen learned Greek | Jul 22 04:31 |
| cubexyz | probably not now | Jul 22 04:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically ISO metric prefixs are basically people who cannot spell greek to english correctly intentionally. | Jul 22 04:32 |
| msb__ | In San Francisco... oh never mind. | Jul 22 04:32 |
| cubexyz | blame Jan Hendrik van Swinden then | Jul 22 04:33 |
| cubexyz | well, maybe not for Zeta | Jul 22 04:34 |
| cubexyz | oh was it Latin for subdivisions? | Jul 22 04:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, 19th century gentlemen had to learn Latin too | Jul 22 04:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I forgot ISO metric prefixes are derivied at random almost from different langauges. | Jul 22 04:38 |
| cubexyz | metro cattolico :) | Jul 22 04:38 |
| oiaohm | Zetta is Zeta from greek | Jul 22 04:38 |
| oiaohm | So horible mess. | Jul 22 04:38 |
| cubexyz | ah it's a mix then | Jul 22 04:39 |
| cubexyz | Latin, Greek, Spanish and Dano-Norwegian | Jul 22 04:39 |
| msb__ | Yenta! That's what I was thinking of. A gossip. | Jul 22 04:39 |
| oiaohm | Then you have like zebibyte | Jul 22 04:40 |
| msb__ | Well, better than a shiksa or a schvartze. | Jul 22 04:40 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, zetta is from the Latin 'eight' | Jul 22 04:40 |
| cubexyz | oops wait | Jul 22 04:40 |
| cubexyz | zetta is latin 'seven' | Jul 22 04:41 |
| cubexyz | it's not consistent | Jul 22 04:41 |
| oiaohm | I knew there was a story. | Jul 22 04:42 |
| oiaohm | with zetta being a screw up. | Jul 22 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Now I remember it is greek to latin where it gets screwed up. | Jul 22 04:42 |
| cubexyz | and we have september as the 9th month, so also odd | Jul 22 04:42 |
| oiaohm | zeta is 6 letter in greek alphabet but someone romans turned that into 7. | Jul 22 04:43 |
| oiaohm | so needing the word zetta | Jul 22 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Now greek roman trade could get confusing because of this. | Jul 22 04:44 |
| oiaohm | Yes both in short form are written z | Jul 22 04:44 |
| cubexyz | petabyte is a bit dubious as well | Jul 22 04:47 |
| cubexyz | peta is Greek for five | Jul 22 04:47 |
| cubexyz | (10^3)^5 | Jul 22 04:47 |
| cubexyz | ok, 1000 to the 5th power | Jul 22 04:48 |
| cubexyz | sounds better :) | Jul 22 04:49 |
| oiaohm | This is the point the more you try to make sense of ISO numbering the more insane it gets. | Jul 22 04:49 |
| oiaohm | No consistancy in method. | Jul 22 04:49 |
| msb__ | XRevan86 turned me on to this great band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leBU07KRA1c | Jul 22 05:04 |
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| oiaohm | Looks like wayland support is going to land in Libreoffice as of 5.0 | Jul 22 05:15 |
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| cubexyz | xsel1 can be used to put stuff on klipper | Jul 22 06:37 |
| cubexyz | alt-enter must be a mc thing | Jul 22 06:38 |
| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/07/21/1836201/california-legislation-may-allow-first-responders-to-take-out-drones | Jul 22 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | California Legislation May Allow First Responders To Take Out Drones - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/n70jr ] | Jul 22 06:39 | |
| oiaohm | This is a what the about usa regulation. | Jul 22 06:39 |
| oiaohm | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/10/aussie-authorities-slam-bushfire-drone-pilots/ | Jul 22 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Aussie Authorities Slam Bushfire Drone Pilots | Gizmodo Australia [ http://ur1.ca/n70l0 ] | Jul 22 06:40 | |
| oiaohm | Australian regulation a bushfire is automatically restricted airspace. | Jul 22 06:40 |
| oiaohm | Anything in restricted airspace without permission can be exterminated by any choosen means. | Jul 22 06:41 |
| oiaohm | If it does not contain a living human. | Jul 22 06:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes the rule applies to weather balloons, drones and what ever else you can think up. | Jul 22 06:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the Hessling Editor is like IBM XEDIT | Jul 22 06:48 |
| cubexyz | from australia | Jul 22 06:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its short name is THE | Jul 22 06:51 |
| oiaohm | The worse recusrive name ever. "The Hessling Editor"=THE | Jul 22 06:52 |
| cubexyz | don't think it's been updated in quite a while | Jul 22 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes I hated using it cubexyz | Jul 22 06:52 |
| oiaohm | 2006 was last update cubexyz | Jul 22 06:53 |
| cubexyz | is there a tarball for that? | Jul 22 06:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes on sourceforge. | Jul 22 06:54 |
| cubexyz | lol | Jul 22 06:54 |
| oiaohm | http://sourceforge.net/projects/hessling-editor/files/hessling-editor/ | Jul 22 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | The Hessling Editor - Browse /hessling-editor at SourceForge.net [ http://ur1.ca/n70po ] | Jul 22 06:55 | |
| oiaohm | Ok so there are a few updated versions. | Jul 22 06:55 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I have to switch to russian repo for my "old" openbsd box :) | Jul 22 06:55 |
| oiaohm | Just no releases since 2006 | Jul 22 06:55 |
| oiaohm | But there was a testing version last year. | Jul 22 06:56 |
| cubexyz | what did you not like about it? | Jul 22 06:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my memory mixed with its commands. | Jul 22 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Remember GUI and me get along. | Jul 22 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Heavy command line remembering stacks of options don't get along. | Jul 22 06:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my tastes are not that complex. | Jul 22 06:58 |
| cubexyz | well generally text based programs are simpler than GUI programs | Jul 22 07:02 |
| cubexyz | ncurses programs could have menus | Jul 22 07:02 |
| oiaohm | like nano and mcedit and I don't mind them. | Jul 22 07:02 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, and the name 'the' for a program is just bad | Jul 22 07:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes I know text based programs can be made simple but why in heck when modern day text terminals support rewriting where ever you like on the screen do we have to be stuck to interfaces like vim.. | Jul 22 07:04 |
| cubexyz | so I search the repos for the word 'the'? :-P | Jul 22 07:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: as I said its the worse one from the age of recusive names. | Jul 22 07:04 |
| oiaohm | Like GNU is fairly bad but "The Hessling Editor"=THE just takes the cake. | Jul 22 07:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes the author of it refers to it as the and the command to start it is the | Jul 22 07:05 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: guess how much the the editor is when you by mistake paste into a terminal. | Jul 22 07:06 |
| cubexyz | there's japanese vim too :) | Jul 22 07:06 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you run any BSD boxes? | Jul 22 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Not at the moment. | Jul 22 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Was running one about a year and a half ago. | Jul 22 07:08 |
| oiaohm | If I am running bsd or not is more if anyone asks. | Jul 22 07:08 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: Yes, alt-enter is specific to mc AFAIK | Jul 22 07:10 |
| cubexyz | the russian repo site is pretty awesome | Jul 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | I remembered why I hated alt-enter in mc | Jul 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | alt-enter happens to be what a lot of virtual machines have aligned to go full screen. | Jul 22 07:13 |
| oiaohm | but at least mc you can reconfigure it. | Jul 22 07:14 |
| cubexyz | pkg_mgr is pretty nice too | Jul 22 07:17 |
| oiaohm | BSD developers do lots of thing right. | Jul 22 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Problem is just they don't get long term hardware support mostly due to the fact the license allows closed source. | Jul 22 07:19 |
| oiaohm | BSD idea of quality merged with Linux licensing mode would have been the best OS ever. | Jul 22 07:20 |
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| schestowitz | > what was Hastings driving? Though I gather his exploded prior to the | Jul 22 09:38 |
| schestowitz | > crash. | Jul 22 09:38 |
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| *amarsh04 has used VAX/VMS a fair amount | Jul 22 10:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TheMetaAgency favourited 'Ubuntu Make 0.9 Brings Initial Support for the...' | Jul 22 10:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Evince 3.18 Document Viewer Will Bring | Jul 22 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a New Annotations Toolbar | Jul 22 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HX2SnErDW7 (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 10:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Evince 3.18 Document Viewer Will Bring a New Annotations Toolbar - Softpedia | Jul 22 10:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kodi 15.0 – Isengard – One Release to Rule Them | Jul 22 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | All http://t.co/mofRLhJ6eZ (kodi.tv) | Jul 22 10:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n722f | Jul 22 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kodi.tv | Kodi 15.0 – Isengard – One Release to Rule Them All | Kodi | Jul 22 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 9 "Stretch" Alpha 1 Installer Released, | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.0 | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7HOSYS1FT1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7242 | Jul 22 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian 9 "Stretch" Alpha 1 Installer Released, Supports Linux Kernel 4.0 - Softpedia | Jul 22 10:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Current Trends on the Linux Desktop7 Current | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trends on the Linux Desktop | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/emDpsry7Nf (www.datamation.com) | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7243 | Jul 22 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 7 Current Trends on the Linux Desktop - Datamation | Jul 22 10:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Yocto-ready ARM COM supports industrial | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | temps http://t.co/Nb4tvxEjEr (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny Yocto-ready ARM COM supports industrial temps · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 10:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7244 | Jul 22 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introducing the First MATE Edition of | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux - Gallery | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/X4MO5ymiZG (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ab | Jul 22 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Introducing the First MATE Edition of Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux - Gallery - Softpedia | Jul 22 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's GTK+ 3.18 to Bring Multiple Mir, | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland, and X11 Improvements | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/W7qw2k18LZ (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ac | Jul 22 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME's GTK+ 3.18 to Bring Multiple Mir, Wayland, and X11 Improvements - Softpedia | Jul 22 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The BackBox Team is pleased to announce the | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | updated release of BackBox Linux, the version | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.3!" http://t.co/hUAqrjnJDf (www.backbox.org) | Jul 22 10:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ad | Jul 22 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Jul 22 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/064yAJNFdi (fossforce.com) | Jul 22 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72af | Jul 22 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.backbox.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 released! | BackBox Linux | Jul 22 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Setting Up Shop With KDE's Plasma | FOSS Force | Jul 22 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Jul 22 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QIOg660xBW (www.v3.co.uk) | Jul 22 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ih | Jul 22 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review - reviews for UK IT professionals - V3.co.uk | Jul 22 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced | Jul 22 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Available http://t.co/W1tFiGZKV7 | Jul 22 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced Version Available - Softpedia | Jul 22 11:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Jul 22 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2YMJyyIyGW (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 22 11:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Linux Journal | Jul 22 11:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/o8iw653Zzm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72im | Jul 22 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Tux Machines | Jul 22 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QuKnX1LVqN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 22 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uxC0VNpLTt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72io | Jul 22 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Tux Machines | Jul 22 11:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced | Jul 22 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Available http://t.co/h92CvlMHWA | Jul 22 13:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced Version Available | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Jul 22 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4a38GXWd3a (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 13:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/BWNJO77WAU | Jul 22 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73dw | Jul 22 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 1.0.2 released | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:07 | |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Glibc-2.22-ARM-NaCl This is getting interesting. | Jul 22 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Glibc 2.22 Will Have NaCl Support For ARMv7-A, Libmvec Vector Math Library - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/n73fx ] | Jul 22 13:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDAB contributions to Qt 5.5 | Jul 22 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDAB contributions to Qt 5.5 | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the OS http://t.co/IcwVasGQon | Jul 22 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73q0 | Jul 22 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside the OS | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phone | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for a month and ended up liking it more than | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/TGVjdPtzVC | Jul 22 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phone for a month and ended up liking it more than Android | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73q1 | Jul 22 13:43 |
| oiaohm | Now if ubuntu phone takes off it will make a joke out of Windows phone in so many ways its not funny. | Jul 22 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UldGu9I3F4 | Jul 22 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unsolicitedbutoffered.blogspot.co.uk | Unsolicited But Offered: What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73y0 | Jul 22 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/ZC7rwx9b1o | Jul 22 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (dnf.baseurl.org) | Jul 22 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73y2 | Jul 22 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.0.2 released | DNF | Jul 22 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside | Jul 22 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the OS http://t.co/ql6S1vp9EK | Jul 22 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside the OS - Softpedia | Jul 22 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 14:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7zSQqHtsfi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73yp | Jul 22 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Tux Machines | Jul 22 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Improvements http://t.co/JcQWA9Iyih | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop Improvements | Tux Machines | Jul 22 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n73yq | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source code discovery | Jul 22 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/C4Fva2C4aY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 14:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over open-source code discovery | Tux Machines | Jul 22 14:09 | |
| oiaohm | http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-matthew-garrett-says-ubuntu-container-images-are-breaking-copyright-probably-487418.shtml | Jul 22 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CoreOS' Matthew Garrett Says Ubuntu Container Images Are Breaking Copyright, Probably - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/n73zc ] | Jul 22 14:10 | |
| oiaohm | interesting. | Jul 22 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a Linux | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kernel problem http://t.co/C7zBTdCJUc | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techreport.com) | Jul 22 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techreport.com | Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a Linux kernel problem - The Tech Report | Jul 22 14:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n740p | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available on Mac, Linux with New Features | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JrwV596mjG | Jul 22 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.escapistmagazine.com) | Jul 22 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.escapistmagazine.com | Star Wars KOTOR II Sith Lords Steam Update Mac Linux | The Escapist | Jul 22 14:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/9sTOX3I0kd | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7681 | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Improvements http://t.co/iiQojabFI9 | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop Improvements - Softpedia | Jul 22 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7682 | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together | Jul 22 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Again The New Solus http://t.co/KZiEaRBPhM | Jul 22 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together Again | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Jul 22 18:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For | Jul 22 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Containers http://t.co/AmiFsqTI8E | Jul 22 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Linux.com | Jul 22 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu | Jul 22 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSes http://t.co/PMPwSxKn6A | Jul 22 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - Softpedia | Jul 22 18:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Jul 22 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aMG5Ok77dw (www.techrepublic.com) | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux - TechRepublic | Jul 22 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Ttqe8RfHzk | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For | Jul 22 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Containers http://t.co/cTR279Dgkx | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu | Jul 22 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSes http://t.co/TFB33LcmiW | Jul 22 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 22 18:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Jul 22 18:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Jul 22 18:48 |
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| MinceR | 163414 < msb__> Great speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM | Jul 22 19:13 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 19:13 |
| MinceR | i miss the part saying "how can a people be free if they don't want to be free?", though | Jul 22 19:14 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: The only reason people don't want to be free is if they have been programmed (brainwashed) by the media/govt not to want freedom. Or if they have been programmed to think that they already are free when they're not. | Jul 22 19:22 |
| MinceR | i suspect they might have an instinctual tendency for it too | Jul 22 19:23 |
| msb__ | I don't think so, because the govt/media does a huge amount of broadcasting lies to them to make them think they are free. | Jul 22 19:24 |
| msb__ | When Napolitano told the people they are not free, the media immediately fired him. | Jul 22 19:25 |
| MinceR | seemed like fox noise got pissed he dared say that their favorite party was no different or better | Jul 22 19:26 |
| MinceR | and just as complicit in the state of matters | Jul 22 19:26 |
| msb__ | I don't remember him even mentioning the Repugs. | Jul 22 19:27 |
| MinceR | he mentioned two parties | Jul 22 19:27 |
| msb__ | The Dems are a little better, giving people more money to survive on, etc. | Jul 22 19:27 |
| msb__ | But in foreign affairs, wars, etc. both are equally evil. | Jul 22 19:28 |
| msb__ | The brainwashing by media isn't only in the US and England. You must have it in Hungary or people would kick out Orban. | Jul 22 19:29 |
| MinceR | the dems are sometimes willing to compromise on issues that are not particularly important to the sponsors of both parties | Jul 22 19:30 |
| MinceR | afaict | Jul 22 19:30 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It's very hard to realize how much we are lied to unless we read news sources like Global Research, Op-Ed News, Truth-Out, New Eastern Outlook, Russia Today, TeleSUR, Free Critical Thinking | Jul 22 19:38 |
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| MinceR | ironic how you list well known sources of propaganda there | Jul 22 19:38 |
| msb__ | As far as I know they are all accurate. | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, as far as you know | Jul 22 19:39 |
| msb__ | I do my best to find out, by comparing them with other sources. | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Jul 22 19:40 |
| msb__ | If you think they are lying, please give some examples. | Jul 22 19:40 |
| MinceR | RT is an outlet with the primary function of spouting putler's propaganda | Jul 22 19:41 |
| msb__ | What has RT said that is untrue? | Jul 22 19:41 |
| MinceR | pretty much everything they said about ukraine, for example | Jul 22 19:42 |
| msb__ | What exactly? | Jul 22 19:42 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Here's the best article I've seen on Ukraine (but there have been many others from other new sites saying the same thing). Note this is not from RT. | Jul 22 19:46 |
| msb__ | MinceR: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554 | Jul 22 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ] | Jul 22 19:47 | |
| MinceR | yeah, the title is already bullshit | Jul 22 19:47 |
| MinceR | but i can see you love fascism as long as it's russians doing it | Jul 22 19:47 |
| MinceR | why don't you move to russia if you love it so much? | Jul 22 19:47 |
| MinceR | you could even enlist and help them subjugate ukraine, estonia, latvia and lithuania | Jul 22 19:47 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What are you talking about? This article is about what the US did, not Russia. | Jul 22 19:48 |
| MinceR | (or you could just move to hungary and wait until orban arranges an anschluss) | Jul 22 19:48 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What are you talking about? This article is about what the US did, not Russia. | Jul 22 19:48 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about what your idol is doing and which these garbage outlets are supporting with their propaganda | Jul 22 19:48 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about how a few nazis in the ukrainian government make that government nazi, but putler adding a nationalist (and christian fundamentalist) element to the "socialism" of the USSR doesn't make him a nazi | Jul 22 19:49 |
| msb__ | Putin's name doesn't appear anywhere in that article! | Jul 22 19:50 |
| MinceR | but if you love fascism adorned with a red star so much, russia and north korea are waiting for you. | Jul 22 19:50 |
| MinceR | you probably wouldn't be welcome in hungary though, as putin's local buddies have arranged a xenophobic circus here. | Jul 22 19:52 |
| msb__ | You said RT was lying about Ukraine. I disproved you. | Jul 22 19:52 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It was Boris Yeltsin, with total US collaboration, that wrecked the Russian economy, sold off all its assets for 1/10 of their value, and essentially instituted fascism. | Jul 22 19:58 |
| MinceR | except yeltsin wasn't even in power until your beloved marxist ideals wrecked the russian economy | Jul 22 19:58 |
| MinceR | and made the empire collapse | Jul 22 19:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, chapter 11 | Jul 22 19:59 |
| MinceR | that was when the people you love so much finally hauled their asses out of hungary | Jul 22 19:59 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure it's easy to cheerlead for a fascist dictatorship from the other side of the planet | Jul 22 19:59 |
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| MinceR | i bet you would have loved hitler too if he didn't stick "national" in front of "socialism" | Jul 22 20:00 |
| msb__ | Instead of personal attacks, tell me what you don't like about marxist ideals. | Jul 22 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | Oh hey, I'm on the right side of the planet. | Jul 22 20:00 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: Hi! | Jul 22 20:01 |
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| XRevan86 | msb__: hi | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | for one, i don't like how that idiot considered it plausible that a dictatorship would just give up its power for the sake of a stateless society | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | that's about as absurd an expectation as they come. | Jul 22 20:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who are you talking about? | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: marx | Jul 22 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He said that? | Jul 22 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | When did he? | Jul 22 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | If you mean "dictatorship of the proletariat" then it's totally equal to "dictatorship of the user" in GPL :). | Jul 22 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | At least that analogy is totally legit. | Jul 22 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I know people who call GPL a fascist license so maybe you're right. | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | I thought Marx/Lenin/Engels said there should be a communist party that would control everyone else, because they understood the right way to do things. | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | And I disagree with that! | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | I think there should be real democracy at all levels. | Jul 22 20:05 |
| msb__ | Mondragon works fine without people being forced. | Jul 22 20:05 |
| MinceR | but you somehow believe that the USSR and putin's empire are "real democracies" | Jul 22 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: I hope you don't mean the representative democracy. | Jul 22 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | at least not the one I can see in Russia and US | Jul 22 20:06 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: No, representative democracy is easily corrupted. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's a pity his followers apparently understood it as the usual sense of "dictatorship" | Jul 22 20:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's their problems. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | perhaps he should have picked his words more carefully. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know how democratic Russia is now. | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | msb__: afaik it's an oligarchy where putin has leverage over all the oligarchs he allowed to remain, so basically all power is in putin's hands | Jul 22 20:07 |
| msb__ | But what I have said is that Putin is doing a good job of trying to hold off the enormous fascist attacks of the US. | Jul 22 20:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: One likes to toy with words :). | Jul 22 20:07 |
| MinceR | was pussy riot a "fascist attack of the us" too? | Jul 22 20:07 |
| MinceR | msb__: would you like to be jailed for insulting putin's favorite cult? | Jul 22 20:08 |
| msb__ | Putin's attack on Pussy Riot was extremely stupid. | Jul 22 20:08 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: How's that? Putin wouldn't want to stop being friends with his bud Kirill the patriarch | Jul 22 20:09 |
| msb__ | Current patriarch of R.O.Church? | Jul 22 20:10 |
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| XRevan86 | msb__: yup | Jul 22 20:11 |
| msb__ | Currently Putin's worst problem is attacks by the US. If most Russians are religious, and distancing himself from the Church would cause him to lose power, then his best choice is probably to stay with the church, stay in power, oppose the US, and join up with the other BRICS nations and Venezuela, etc. | Jul 22 20:14 |
| MinceR | that's ludicrous | Jul 22 20:14 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why? | Jul 22 20:15 |
| MinceR | you excuse anything and everything a dictator does by a handwave and saying that the us attacks them in some way | Jul 22 20:15 |
| MinceR | for you, it's a universal excuse for doing anything | Jul 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | it's like nobody who lives in or near russia mattered except putin and his buddies | Jul 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | apparently "attacking" a dictatorship is the worst crime you can imagine | Jul 22 20:17 |
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| MinceR | apparently human rights and "real democracy" don't matter if you can sacrifice those just to stick it to the US | Jul 22 20:18 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks. Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine? | Jul 22 20:18 |
| MinceR | you really should look into north korea, they seem to match your ideology better. | Jul 22 20:18 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks. | Jul 22 20:18 |
| MinceR | please stop your putler propaganda. | Jul 22 20:19 |
| MinceR | please stop propping up dictatorships | Jul 22 20:19 |
| MinceR | please stop distorting the facts and outright lying for the purpose of propping up dictatorships | Jul 22 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | “The feature [Uconnect] allows owners to start the car remotely, flash the headlights using an app and unlock doors.” | Jul 22 20:19 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine? | Jul 22 20:19 |
| MinceR | i don't think the us installed a nazi government in ukraine. | Jul 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | putitin | Jul 22 20:20 |
| MinceR | i don't think the government of ukraine is anywhere near as close to being nazis as putler is. | Jul 22 20:20 |
| MinceR | i don't think the government of ukraine is even anywhere near as close to being nazis as orban and his pals are. | Jul 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Orban is quite bad | Jul 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe as bad as the Ukrainian gov. | Jul 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | which bombs its own cities | Jul 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | The Russians have some offensive words by which to allude to Ukranians | Jul 22 20:21 |
| MinceR | and i don't think that holding a "referendum" at gunpoint is "real democracy". | Jul 22 20:22 |
| MinceR | they probably had such words even before the holodomor | Jul 22 20:22 |
| schestowitz | that would be crimea | Jul 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | putitin is evil | Jul 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | but he hasn't a monopoly on being evil | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | the french and us did that in haiti, I think | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | there's a lot of evil on this world | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | and if two factions oppose each other, one faction being clearly evil doesn't make the other one good | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | many people lack the mental capability to understand this fact | Jul 22 20:23 |
| MinceR | hence hungarians supporting fidesz for the sole reason that they're convinced mszp is evil | Jul 22 20:24 |
| MinceR | (which they probably are, but it doesn't follow.) | Jul 22 20:24 |
| MinceR | russia opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good. | Jul 22 20:24 |
| MinceR | north korea opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good. | Jul 22 20:25 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: So Putitin attacked Pussy. That's pretty good! | Jul 22 20:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, down with everyone who attacks religion | Jul 22 20:25 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 22 20:25 |
| *MinceR seems to remember some things msb__ said about "JCI religion" | Jul 22 20:25 | |
| *MinceR wonders what putin would think about those things | Jul 22 20:25 | |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please try to remember: I have never said that Putin is the ideal leader. But the US has destroyed Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya and murdered more than 2,000,000 people since 2001. | Jul 22 20:28 |
| MinceR | the US has also upheld the principles of democracy to a greater degree than russia ever has. | Jul 22 20:29 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Putin and others are trying to stop that with economic alliances and by protecting Russians in east Ukraine. | Jul 22 20:29 |
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| MinceR | no, they're trying no such things | Jul 22 20:29 |
| MinceR | putin is trying to re-establish the russian empire | Jul 22 20:29 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No. Democracy in the US is nearly a total fraud. | Jul 22 20:29 |
| MinceR | msb__: democracy in russia is a total fraud. | Jul 22 20:30 |
| MinceR | there still is some freedom of speech in the US and it's at least considered in words to be a good idea. | Jul 22 20:30 |
| MinceR | in russia, there's brutal censorship | Jul 22 20:30 |
| MinceR | the us has a two-party system. russia has a one-party system. | Jul 22 20:31 |
| msb__ | Both US parties are run by wealthy oligarchs. | Jul 22 20:32 |
| MinceR | russia is run by wealthy oligarchs controlled by putin. | Jul 22 20:32 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: How democratic is Russia? Is there freedom of speech? | Jul 22 20:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Availability http://t.co/f0Czhnwmgo | Jul 22 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.7 Hits General Availability | Tux Machines | Jul 22 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77k5 | Jul 22 20:33 |
| MinceR | msb__: you could test it by saying the truth about christianity publicly on russian soil. :> | Jul 22 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier | Jul 22 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Grade Linux http://t.co/pqqKX2JtjR | Jul 22 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier Grade Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 22 20:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Jul 22 20:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77k8 | Jul 22 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Tux Machines | Jul 22 20:33 | |
| MinceR | msb__: you might also want to look into how russia and the us tolerates homosexuals | Jul 22 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: Not much. No, there is no freedom of speech. | Jul 22 20:34 |
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| MinceR | XRevan86: do russians speak of freedom of speech as if it were an important value for them and their country? | Jul 22 20:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People stopped caring about anything a long time ago. | Jul 22 20:36 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: Has Putin improved the Russian economy over the way Yeltsin left it? | Jul 22 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: He did. | Jul 22 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | It sucks much less now. | Jul 22 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: I have a PC you know :D. | Jul 22 20:45 |
| msb__ | How big is your display? | Jul 22 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: 20'' | Jul 22 20:46 |
| msb__ | Good! | Jul 22 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jul 22 20:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77t5 | Jul 22 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Tux Machines | Jul 22 20:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @trove followed @tuxmachines | Jul 22 20:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M release date, name, version number | Jul 22 20:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and new features: What's new in Android M | Jul 22 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FtZd0XwnA2 (www.pcadvisor.co.uk) | Jul 22 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77t6 | Jul 22 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Android M UK release date, new features: Android M Developer Preview - New Product - PC Advisor | Jul 22 20:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone | Jul 22 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starts with the Uno http://t.co/fDF3ZQwdzV | Jul 22 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jul 22 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77y1 | Jul 22 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone starts with the Uno | The Verge | Jul 22 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There's a secret feature in Android phones that | Jul 22 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | will let you prank your friends | Jul 22 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/yfEf4jLdgW (uk.businessinsider.com) | Jul 22 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | How to slow down an Android phone - Business Insider | Jul 22 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77y2 | Jul 22 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android | Jul 22 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.1 Lollipop Launched http://t.co/TRKzPwfj9p | Jul 22 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (gadgets.ndtv.com) | Jul 22 21:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77y4 | Jul 22 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android 5.1 Lollipop Launched | NDTV Gadgets | Jul 22 21:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony's 'Android concept' will give some Xperia | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Z3 owners a preview of what's to come | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GFIbSojD15 (error) | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n783s | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DCM Closes Second Android Fund With $100 | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Million http://t.co/1WvK3LdszB (techcrunch.com) | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n783u | Jul 22 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | DCM Closes Second Android Fund With $100 Million | TechCrunch | Jul 22 21:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Is there a market or even a need for Android | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs? http://t.co/hdQzJqyDqY (www.slashgear.com) | Jul 22 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Is there a market or even a need for Android PCs? - SlashGear | Jul 22 21:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | depends on the user. I know some for whom it'll | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | be enough | Jul 22 21:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n783v | Jul 22 21:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starts with the Uno http://t.co/OlWysNC8sk | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7870 | Jul 22 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone starts with the Uno | Tux Machines | Jul 22 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.1 Lollipop Launched http://t.co/0NoYze1tYu | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7872 | Jul 22 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android 5.1 Lollipop Launched | Tux Machines | Jul 22 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Is there a market or even a need for Android | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs? http://t.co/lrnmxSTqKK | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7873 | Jul 22 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is there a market or even a need for Android PCs? | Tux Machines | Jul 22 21:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/124752050212/a-wise-man-observed-that-wealth-is-a-tool-of#_=_ | Jul 22 21:45 |
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| cubexyz | well I suppose it's possible | Jul 22 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Testing Fedora Cloud image with | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd-networkd http://t.co/DhNEnophMy | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Testing Fedora Cloud image with systemd-networkd | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (kushaldas.in) | Jul 22 22:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8R7sPB4AY0 (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78ob | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer - Tizen Experts | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another digest from Polariland | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1RZDXV1WsP (blogs.gnome.org) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78oc | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2015/07/22/another-digest-from-polariland/ ) | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME To Do 3.17.4 http://t.co/SjoFv45qal | Jul 22 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | GNOME To Do 3.17.4 | Georges Stavracas | Jul 22 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (feaneron.com) | Jul 22 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78oe | Jul 22 22:25 |
| MinceR | i suppose if it has valid signatures from the openbsd team then it's probably legit | Jul 22 22:26 |
| cubexyz | looks like the Saudia Arabian mirror is the same | Jul 22 22:26 |
| cubexyz | almost every mirror dumped 4.7 | Jul 22 22:28 |
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| cubexyz | Costa Rica has back to 4.3 | Jul 22 22:29 |
| cubexyz | 4.7 is only 2010, it's not that old | Jul 22 22:30 |
| cubexyz | I think lftp can calculate how big a directory is | Jul 22 22:36 |
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| cubexyz | 27 gigs? | Jul 22 22:38 |
| cubexyz | yes, it must be about that | Jul 22 22:39 |
| cubexyz | of course that's just i386 | Jul 22 22:40 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if vax is any different in size | Jul 22 22:41 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: MinceR: Here is a long article by some Russians about Putin's strategy regarding Ukraine. Of course they consider the US-backed coup in Ukraine to have installed a Nazi government, as do all alternative news services. http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=14600 | Jul 22 22:42 |
| MinceR | what do they consider putin? | Jul 22 22:42 |
| msb__ | A leader doing his best to oppose US aggression. | Jul 22 22:42 |
| cubexyz | vax is less than 1 gig | Jul 22 22:43 |
| MinceR | interesting how they do not see the nazi in their own home | Jul 22 22:45 |
| MinceR | then again, there are millions of such idiots in hungary, too | Jul 22 22:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: you do know that the Nazi govt in Ukraine shot down that Malaysian airliner, right? | Jul 22 22:45 |
| cubexyz | well windows is the most "popular" OS | Jul 22 22:45 |
| MinceR | i do know that putler and his fans claim they did | Jul 22 22:45 |
| cubexyz | that wouldn't happen unless people were lazy or stupid | Jul 22 22:45 |
| cubexyz | no firefox, no wesnoth, no openoffice for vax | Jul 22 22:47 |
| cubexyz | so it's way smaller | Jul 22 22:48 |
| msb__ | There are pictures of metal pieces of the plane showing punctures coming from both sides. That can only have been from cannon fire from the two Ukrainian fighter jets that peoiple saw on both sides of the jetliner. Shrapnel from a Russian missile would have made holes coming only from one direction. | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/LpJptDF83O (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78xc | Jul 22 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 22 22:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | needs your help http://t.co/BMquLDOxth | Jul 22 22:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mitya57.me) | Jul 22 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mitya57.me | GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, needs your help - mitya57’s weblog | Jul 22 22:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78xe | Jul 22 22:48 |
| MinceR | tell us about 9/11 too, please | Jul 22 22:49 |
| cubexyz | it's better we stick to tech stuff | Jul 22 22:49 |
| MinceR | yeah, it would be better | Jul 22 22:49 |
| MinceR | but msb__ insists on supporting his favorite dictator regularly | Jul 22 22:49 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Sure: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 Five excellent videos plus my own pages. | Jul 22 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Jul 22 22:51 | |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop the personal attacks. | Jul 22 22:51 |
| MinceR | msb__: please stop the bullshit. | Jul 22 22:52 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What bullshit? | Jul 22 22:52 |
| MinceR | mainly the one about putler | Jul 22 22:52 |
| MinceR | but also the one about 9/11, chemtrails and reptilians | Jul 22 22:53 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What bullshit about Putin? | Jul 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | there are enough real issues without inventing fake ones | Jul 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | that he's a democrat, that he supports freedom of speech and other human rights, that opposing the usa justifies oppressing one's own people and taking over nearby countries | Jul 22 22:53 |
| MinceR | the usual bullshit. | Jul 22 22:54 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never said any such things. I've only said that Putin is doing a good job of trying to block US aggression, which has murdered millions of people. | Jul 22 22:55 |
| MinceR | that's like saying hitler did a good job of trying to block allied aggression by having the people murdered himself instead | Jul 22 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bad analogy that is. | Jul 22 22:56 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jul 22 22:56 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never advocated the existence of reptilians either. Where did you come up with that? | Jul 22 22:57 |
| MinceR | i expected that to follow, in the usual progression of lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit | Jul 22 22:57 |
| msb__ | MinceR: As to 9/11 and chemtrails, if you claim they are fake, you simply don't know what you are talking about. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | also, before you start mouthing off about who killed how many millions, i recommend looking up the stats for some of your idols. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | like stalin and mao zedong. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| msb__ | MinceR: They are not my idols at all. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | i can tell. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: US govt surely did that. | Jul 22 22:58 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: oh, that's fine, that completely excuses north korea, then. | Jul 22 22:59 |
| MinceR | oh wait, it fucking doesn't. | Jul 22 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who says anything about North Korea? | Jul 22 22:59 |
| MinceR | the same "hurr durr they're opposing the usa, the only remaining evil left in our world" narrative applies | Jul 22 23:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @btcrs favourited 'Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach &...' | Jul 22 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M: 5 small but important features | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you’re going to love http://t.co/zlNIO9G3z6 | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (bgr.com) | Jul 22 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android M best features, tricks | BGR | Jul 22 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n791s | Jul 22 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: NK is like the worst. | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Grade Linux http://t.co/c9oMLzng0Y | Jul 22 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier Grade Linux · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n791w | Jul 22 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And pretty weak as well :) | Jul 22 23:01 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: the same applies to russia. | Jul 22 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Only to some very limited extent. | Jul 22 23:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never said that the US is the only evil remaining in the world. But, along with the Islamic psychopaths it is arming and supporting, it is murdering far more people than any other entity. | Jul 22 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | US is the most successful evil in the world. | Jul 22 23:03 |
| msb__ | Yes! | Jul 22 23:03 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i've seen what it would be like if russia was more successful than the us | Jul 22 23:03 |
| MinceR | so i'm glad russia isn't. | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kqpiQttvxp (www.linuxinsider.com) | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7934 | Jul 22 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Smartphones | LinuxInsider | Jul 22 23:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lO680FXQ0I (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 22 23:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7936 | Jul 22 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux Journal | Jul 22 23:03 | |
| cubexyz | I feel I should point out that the USA also invented Unix | Jul 22 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wichita State group recruits young computer | Jul 22 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | users to Linux system http://t.co/iypvgIm6Dr | Jul 22 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kansas.com | Wichita State group recruits young computer users to Linux system | The Wichita Eagle | Jul 22 23:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.kansas.com) | Jul 22 23:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7938 | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | and DEC PDP-11 | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | so they did good things as well | Jul 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | i feel i should point out that the greatest IT accomplishments of the USSR were copying some usian computers | Jul 22 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I thought it's K&R :) | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | not K&R | Jul 22 23:04 |
| MinceR | and that i couldn't even be a software engineer if the empire of those barbarians hadn't collapsed. | Jul 22 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not true. | Jul 22 23:04 |
| cubexyz | Thompson and Ritchie | Jul 22 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: USSR failed at IT exactly when it started copying US. | Jul 22 23:05 |
| cubexyz | K&R wrote the C book | Jul 22 23:05 |
| MinceR | and that i would be considered an "enemy of the system" because i'm highly educated. | Jul 22 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: right | Jul 22 23:05 |
| cubexyz | still important of course | Jul 22 23:05 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: why did they copy the US, then? | Jul 22 23:06 |
| MinceR | (hint, hint) | Jul 22 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Because Hrusshev was Hrusshev. | Jul 22 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | Hrusŝev | Jul 22 23:06 |
| cubexyz | at least Canada can take some credit for OpenBSD | Jul 22 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapid | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubernetes deployments http://t.co/KzVgKeQlVd | Jul 22 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapid Kubernetes deployments | ZDNet | Jul 22 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n794n | Jul 22 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | * Hruŝev | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.0.9 Is the Last in the Series, | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Please Move to Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wpqKMUYc4c (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n794o | Jul 22 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.0.9 Is the Last in the Series, Please Move to Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 22 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Jul 22 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | Why did I put that "s" there? | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UnvpdY6uVB | Jul 22 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux « Everyday Linux User | Jul 22 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Jul 22 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n794p | Jul 22 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | Did I forget how to pronounce Russian? :D | Jul 22 23:07 |
| cubexyz | how often do those links get posted? | Jul 22 23:07 |
| MinceR | Хрущёв | Jul 22 23:08 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: I thought you were coughing. | Jul 22 23:08 |
| cubexyz | it seems like it's every 10 minutes | Jul 22 23:08 |
| *cubexyz pulls out the chronograph | Jul 22 23:08 | |
| MinceR | msb__: you obviously don't know your history. | Jul 22 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I wonder how to show that "ё" in English | Jul 22 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe like "Hrushov" | Jul 22 23:08 |
| MinceR | in the usual english orthography, they just pretend it's the same as e | Jul 22 23:08 |
| MinceR | so they write Khrushchev | Jul 22 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, that's correct: sh is soft in English, I constantly forget about that. | Jul 22 23:09 |
| cubexyz | how do they refer to Unix in Russia? Do they just use the english word? | Jul 22 23:09 |
| MinceR | (since ё is just a special case of a stressed 'e') | Jul 22 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Of course. | Jul 22 23:09 |
| MinceR | well, the language of IT is english | Jul 22 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "ё" is not a special case of "е" | Jul 22 23:09 |
| MinceR | then my russian teacher was wrong or lying | Jul 22 23:10 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://translate.google.com/#ru/ru/ель%2C%20ёлка | Jul 22 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/n7960 ] | Jul 22 23:10 | |
| msb__ | You Russians and Hungarians spend so much time obsessing over accented and substituted letters. Speak English! It's much simpler! | Jul 22 23:11 |
| msb__ | Down with UTF-8! | Jul 22 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: Russian is so much more strict on pronouncing | Jul 22 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | guess why Russian doesn't have many accents :) | Jul 22 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | And those that exist English would hardly consider. | Jul 22 23:12 |
| cubexyz | IT isn't totally english based | Jul 22 23:13 |
| cubexyz | APL uses Greek characters | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It pretty much is. | Jul 22 23:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm trying hard to think of another example :) | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | except for freaky cases :) | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 99.9% English-based | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | not totally, yeah :D | Jul 22 23:13 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, ok :) | Jul 22 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | oh wait | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | 99.5% | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | there is 1C | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | A very popular Russian accounting thing | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | it has a built-in programming language | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | and it's Russian-based | Jul 22 23:14 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%81 | Jul 22 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Yo (Cyrillic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 22 23:14 | |
| MinceR | "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable." | Jul 22 23:14 |
| cubexyz | some sort of spreadsheet? | Jul 22 23:14 |
| MinceR | "The letter Yo is the seventh letter of the alphabet, but although it indicates a distinct sound from Ye, it is often, but not always, treated as the same letter for purposes of alphabetisation and sorting." | Jul 22 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | > it indicates a distinct sound from Ye | Jul 22 23:15 |
| MinceR | "Except for a brief period after World War II, the use of ⟨ё⟩ was never obligatory in standard Russian orthography. By and large, it is used only in dictionaries and in pedagogical literature intended for children and students of Russian as a second language, Otherwise ⟨е⟩ is used, and ⟨ё⟩ occurs only when it is necessary to avoid ambiguity" | Jul 22 23:15 |
| msb__ | We're a simple culture here in the US, derived from ex-cons and religious idiots. Kill! Eat! Fuck! That's all we do. | Jul 22 23:15 |
| cubexyz | genetics :) | Jul 22 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "ё" is still different from "е" very much as you can see. | Jul 22 23:16 |
| msb__ | yep! | Jul 22 23:16 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i didn't say they were the exact same thing, though | Jul 22 23:16 |
| MinceR | msb__: you forgot "Hate" | Jul 22 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A different sound | Jul 22 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | so Hrushov and Hrushev does not sound the same | Jul 22 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | do* | Jul 22 23:16 |
| msb__ | Our neighbors to the north at least have the benefit of some beaver and moose genes. | Jul 22 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "They should delete their OS-test. It’s none of | Jul 22 23:16 |
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| MinceR | the same article also mentions the weirdness in the spelling of Khrushchev and Gorbachev in english | Jul 22 23:17 |
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| XRevan86 | > stressed | Jul 22 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | (01:14:48) MinceR: "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable." | Jul 22 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I misunderstood you -_- | Jul 22 23:17 |
| MinceR | i suspected it | Jul 22 23:17 |
| cubexyz | ALGOL 68 allows internationalization of the language | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | but hopefully we're on the same page now | Jul 22 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But I know how to call "udarenie" in English :) | Jul 22 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | now | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | (i wasn't even sure "stressed" is the right term) | Jul 22 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | Now I don't :D | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 22 23:18 |
| cubexyz | so there's Cyrillic ALGOL 68 :) | Jul 22 23:18 |
| MinceR | m$ excel also translates the function names, at least in the hungarian version, which is insane | Jul 22 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If you'll manage to find this thing in 2015… | Jul 22 23:19 |
| MinceR | but it's the sort of insanity one would expect from m$ | Jul 22 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It does indeed. | Jul 22 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | LibreOffice Calc doesn't do that thankfully. | Jul 22 23:19 |
| cubexyz | and of course there's symbol based languages | Jul 22 23:20 |
| MinceR | indeed, neither does gnumeric | Jul 22 23:20 |
| XRevan86 | Funny observation: the only establishment I've been in that has stupidly smiling cashiers is McDonalds. | Jul 22 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently it's their policy. | Jul 22 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | Don't ask what I did there. | Jul 22 23:23 |
| cubexyz | well working at McDonalds must be rather stupefying | Jul 22 23:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 22 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | What I want to ask is: is this thing a norm in US? | Jul 22 23:24 |
| cubexyz | I remember one time ordering a drink at the drive-thru and they asked me if I wanted a drink with that | Jul 22 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | Constantly smiling cashiers | Jul 22 23:24 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: lol | Jul 22 23:24 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: One drink is never enough :) | Jul 22 23:25 |
| MinceR | i think there's at least one kind of coffee that's traditionally drank with some other drink (probably water) | Jul 22 23:26 |
| MinceR | plus there's Klatchian coffee on Discworld :> | Jul 22 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | Because I don't trust these smiles at all. And so I see lies instead of trustworthiness. | Jul 22 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | and from what I know, nobody does :) | Jul 22 23:26 |
| cubexyz | just imagine a smiling Bill Gates telling you to trust Microsoft :) | Jul 22 23:27 |
| MinceR | i don't see any reason to decide whether to trust them, they're largely irrelevant | Jul 22 23:27 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty simple deal: they get money, i get food | Jul 22 23:27 |
| cubexyz | "do you want fries with that?" | Jul 22 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But they want me to think something. | Jul 22 23:28 |
| cubexyz | I never go there nowadays | Jul 22 23:28 |
| cubexyz | yes damn it, I want extra fries with my fries and a drink with my drink | Jul 22 23:28 |
| msb__ | Corporations have only one obligation: maximize the profits of their shareholders. So they are the economic equivalents of psychopaths. | Jul 22 23:29 |
| MinceR | those are public corporations | Jul 22 23:30 |
| MinceR | private corporations are not obligated to be evil | Jul 22 23:30 |
| msb__ | A bit of an exaggeration. They aren't all evil. | Jul 22 23:30 |
| MinceR | i thought we were talking about legal obligations to be evil, not actual evilness :> | Jul 22 23:33 |
| msb__ | MinceR: You consider some information, like 9-11 and chemtrail/HAARP research, to be "lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit" simply because it differs from mainstream beliefs. But many people would consider your support of Linux, and especially your detailed opposition to systemd, to be "nutcase bullshit". But you and we know that it isn't. In a world where most people are programmed to live within "The Matrix", differing from | Jul 22 23:47 |
| msb__ | mainstream thought is not a reliable indicator of falsity. That's why critical thinking requires accessing information that differs from your present beliefs. | Jul 22 23:47 |
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| cubexyz | people are overly passive | Jul 23 00:09 |
| MinceR | msb__: no, the point is not what is mainstream and what isn't. | Jul 23 00:12 |
| MinceR | msb__: has it ever occurred to you that "mainstream thought" is not the only thing that critical thinking can debunk? | Jul 23 00:13 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Of course. It is the key to _accurate_ thinking. | Jul 23 00:14 |
| MinceR | for example, i've seen and considered both sides of the 9/11 debate. | Jul 23 00:15 |
| msb__ | Have you watched all 5 videos linked on my homepage? | Jul 23 00:16 |
| MinceR | no | Jul 23 00:16 |
| msb__ | I think you should. You are obviously a very smart guy. I think they will convince you. | Jul 23 00:17 |
| msb__ | The govt story of 9-11 falls apart in many different ways. | Jul 23 00:19 |
| MinceR | so does the most loudly promoted conspiracy theory. | Jul 23 00:20 |
| msb__ | Which is? | Jul 23 00:20 |
| MinceR | especially in assuming unforeseen competence in the government when it comes to keeping stuff secret | Jul 23 00:20 |
| MinceR | missiles, controlled demolition, thermite, stuff like that | Jul 23 00:21 |
| cubexyz | does motif mwm have a way to run a program not on the menu? | Jul 23 00:24 |
| msb__ | Current thought is that missiles were not involved. All three WTC buildings -- 1, 2, and 7 -- meet all the criteria for controlled demolition, and steel-frame buildings simply do not fall down from cool smoky fires.. The thermite flakes were found in dust samples and chemically analyzed by several different techniques, and shown to burn like thermite. | Jul 23 00:25 |
| MinceR | who placed the demolition charges and when? how were they not noticed? how did they have time to do that in secret? | Jul 23 00:26 |
| MinceR | the steel frame sagging due to the heat (it didn't melt and it didn't have to melt) and pancaking floors is a much simpler explanation of the evidence i've seen. | Jul 23 00:27 |
| msb__ | The charges were built in when the buildings were constructed. The detonators were added shortly before 9-11. http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/#CORES | Jul 23 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments | Jul 23 00:29 | |
| MinceR | who the hell builds an office building with built-in explosives? | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | and how the hell does such an incompetent government keep that in secret? | Jul 23 00:30 |
| msb__ | "Simpler" doesn't necessarily mean correct. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | this is an incredibly unlikely hypothesis. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | a simpler explanation is more likely to be true. | Jul 23 00:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor | Jul 23 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Occam's razor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n79xd ] | Jul 23 00:31 | |
| msb__ | Please read the evidence I've directed you to. | Jul 23 00:31 |
| msb__ | Of course I know about Occam's Razor. So does the US government. | Jul 23 00:31 |
| msb__ | They rely on people believing it absolutely. "The buildings fell because planes hit them, you idiot!" | Jul 23 00:32 |
| MinceR | i'm definitely not going to take on the obligation to wade through such a mass of such badly presented material this week. | Jul 23 00:32 |
| MinceR | "fact" 1 ignores the amount of air present between floors | Jul 23 00:33 |
| msb__ | How? | Jul 23 00:34 |
| MinceR | a floor falling on top of another (due to the steel supports holding them apart losing most of their strength) would expel the air between them | Jul 23 00:35 |
| MinceR | hence, sideways force. | Jul 23 00:35 |
| msb__ | There were no cannon barrels to direct the compressed air to the 10-ton girders in order to propel them horizontally at 70 miles/hour. | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | there was furniture, though | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | and interior walls | Jul 23 00:37 |
| msb__ | So? | Jul 23 00:37 |
| MinceR | those could have helped focus the force on the occasional girder. | Jul 23 00:38 |
| msb__ | How? By magic? | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | no, physics | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | fact 3 is interesting -- i've heard other conspiracy theories _expecting_ molten metal and _denying_ it was present | Jul 23 00:39 |
| msb__ | Have you taken courses in physics? Are you familiar with F=ma? | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | i have. | Jul 23 00:39 |
| MinceR | and you're removing my interest in this subject currently. | Jul 23 00:40 |
| msb__ | How? | Jul 23 00:40 |
| msb__ | How could furniture or wallboard focus compressed air on a ten-ton girder to accelerate it to 70mph? | Jul 23 00:42 |
| MinceR | that only depends on the pressure and amount of air | Jul 23 00:43 |
| msb__ | It also depends on the air not being able to flow in many other directions, instead of pressing only on the girder. | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | That | Jul 23 00:45 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | That's why cannons are cylinders open only at one end. | Jul 23 00:45 |
| MinceR | though even that would only reduce the pressure | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | yes -- indeed | Jul 23 00:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: If I go to the effort of figuring out the units for a ten ton girder being accelerated to 70mph, and it turns out to be an impossibly high pressure, will you promise to view all 5 videos, and read the linked pages on Chris Brown's site? | Jul 23 00:49 |
| MinceR | i won't promise that | Jul 23 00:49 |
| MinceR | also it seems to me that the different sides claim different evidence is present, and i have no way of figuring out which is correct. | Jul 23 00:50 |
| msb__ | That's where an understanding of physics comes in. And critical thinking. | Jul 23 00:52 |
| MinceR | i see here a video that claims explosions were heard. i do not wish to listen to it at this time | Jul 23 00:53 |
| MinceR | i've seen a video where they weren't heard. | Jul 23 00:53 |
| MinceR | since i wasn't there, there's no way for me to determine which is true. | Jul 23 00:54 |
| msb__ | Do you think somebody faked the video? What about the fireman imitating the explosion sounds? | Jul 23 00:55 |
| cubexyz | how was WTC heated? | Jul 23 00:56 |
| MinceR | well, either one of them is interpreted incorrectly, or both are; or one of them is fake, or both are | Jul 23 00:56 |
| msb__ | Genghis Khan and the Mongol Hordes had cannons. But that was in 1215AD. I thought they were much older. Anyhow, they used cylindrical cannon barrels, not gunpowder, a cannon ball and some random furniture. | Jul 23 00:57 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: by cold fusion | Jul 23 00:58 |
| MinceR | that would be because the furniture approach would be very inefficient for this purpose | Jul 23 00:58 |
| MinceR | that doesn't mean it can't happen, it means you can accomplish the same ends with far less resources if that's your intent. | Jul 23 00:59 |
| msb__ | Yes, and even less efficient for a ten ton girder! | Jul 23 00:59 |
| MinceR | also, what is our source for the girder being embedded into an adjacent building or whatever it was embedded into? | Jul 23 00:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Only if The Force you can harness! | Jul 23 00:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know off hand. But their speed can be measured from the video. | Jul 23 01:00 |
| MinceR | only if you know their distance from the camera | Jul 23 01:01 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: the question has never come up. Probably electric heating. | Jul 23 01:01 |
| cubexyz | msb__, I think they used steam | Jul 23 01:02 |
| cubexyz | not positive though | Jul 23 01:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No, you know the width of the building and the distance between floors. | Jul 23 01:02 |
| MinceR | also, the claim about the C4-"like" plastic is suspicious | Jul 23 01:02 |
| msb__ | I trust Chris, and a few other people recall seeing the video also. | Jul 23 01:03 |
| msb__ | There's no reason why an anti-corrosion coating would be extremely flammable. | Jul 23 01:03 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jul 23 01:04 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, heating it may release some nasty, toxic fumes | Jul 23 01:04 |
| msb__ | The welders would just place some kind of heat sink between the weld and the coating (which would not extend to the ends of the rebars). | Jul 23 01:06 |
| MinceR | that would help in the 'fumes' case | Jul 23 01:06 |
| MinceR | then again, i'm not in any way trained for welding | Jul 23 01:07 |
| msb__ | and it would keep the plastique from catching fire. | Jul 23 01:07 |
| MinceR | also, a chemical compound being "like" another does not mean it behaves similarly | Jul 23 01:08 |
| msb__ | You know that C4 doesn't explode if you just light it. You have to use a detonator to create a highspeed shockwave. | Jul 23 01:08 |
| MinceR | yeah, i faintly remember something like that | Jul 23 01:09 |
| msb__ | Using a primary explosive instead of a secondary one in that application would be ridiculously stupid. | Jul 23 01:09 |
| msb__ | I read that GIs would sometimes light a cube of C4 to cook their dinner. | Jul 23 01:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 01:10 |
| MinceR | and indeed C-4 contains synthetic rubber as a binder, but that's not explosive | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_%28explosive%29 | Jul 23 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | C-4 (explosive) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n7a9z ] | Jul 23 01:12 | |
| msb__ | Fried Spam tastes pretty good, actually. | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | i've had fried luncheon meat (not spam brand, though) | Jul 23 01:12 |
| msb__ | melts out much of the fat | Jul 23 01:12 |
| MinceR | fat contributes to the sense of taste | Jul 23 01:13 |
| msb__ | There's still plenty left. | Jul 23 01:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 01:13 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Fattiness | Jul 23 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Taste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n7aal ] | Jul 23 01:13 | |
| MinceR | apparently it's still in debate | Jul 23 01:13 |
| msb__ | I think it's an excuse by butchers and grocers to sell you fat. I like the taste of purely lean meat. | Jul 23 01:14 |
| cubexyz | spam has that unique spam taste | Jul 23 01:41 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll get to try it someday | Jul 23 01:42 |
| cubexyz | it seems no one wrote a clipboard manager mwm | Jul 23 01:54 |
| MinceR | those were simpler times :> | Jul 23 01:54 |
| cubexyz | looks like sourceforce is back at least | Jul 23 01:54 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge | Jul 23 01:55 |
| cubexyz | ha, there actually is one | Jul 23 02:02 |
| cubexyz | cutview | Jul 23 02:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.users.uswest.net/~hmahon/sources/cutview-1.69.src.tgz | Jul 23 02:03 |
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| cubexyz | ok, no more messing around | Jul 23 02:28 |
| cubexyz | the future is here: | Jul 23 02:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/mwm-desktop-of-the-future.png | Jul 23 02:28 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 02:31 |
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| amarsh04 | and even Netware for VAX/VMS at one stage | Jul 23 03:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, | Jul 23 08:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, and UFS Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes | Jul 23 08:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes to the RSS Miner | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SusanPickin/status/624122344571805696 | Jul 23 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SusanPickin: @schestowitz @IPDraughts wonder why that is - make it easier? | Jul 23 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624072915110080512 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077492370935808 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077933674635264 | Jul 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: .@GetUpStandUp2 @PublicEd4Bernie @AJC4others @SenSanders @BadassTeachersA @Women4Bernie "Bill Gates ... Monsanto ..." http://t.co/63qHn7ccfW | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance by philanthropist and accounting expert http://t.co/MokXcXGymy See what into! | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn invests Pharma patent Tobacco Alcoholic beverages Petroleum Experimental controversial crops evn news/media http://t.co/WGvRZG8rtE | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079229475356672 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079929903222784 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624080527608315904 | Jul 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Need not pay tax tho keeps control of assets, use 2 control influence private, public policy http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f See what Bill #Gates n2! | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance Maintain investments & use to control Even news/media! http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation shell 4 tax avoidance? Invests in news / media used to control? http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f ie #Monsanto #GMO #BernieBlackout? | Jul 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081167927648256 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081604101672960 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081951490723840 | Jul 23 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn dependence/lock-in cascades down 2 businesses homes Creates revenue wd not exist n free market & Pay 0 tax? http://t.co/bctIFfEWhV | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates also able bring public money to himself through energy & public health policy - and Pays no tax? http://t.co/ducmpsEIHS #Monsanto #GMO | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "As Gates has diversified, his corrupting influence has spread to other portions of the economy." http://t.co/kb8yA8lbRI See what Bill into! | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624082753332617220 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624084936107139072 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624087193678651392 | Jul 23 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House .... under the guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/E1crfghQAr | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill .... Gates Foundation ... private front group (2 advance his 4 profit interests) guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/QhzsEV51EU | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "(Bill) Gates not only plutocrat ... camouflage his agenda ...but probably the biggest .... charities ... a sham .... http://t.co/dwkaJP97gK | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624089571698081796 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624114416548773888 | Jul 23 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates self-feeding money vacuums call4 taxpayer money, explains 2 public Y not harm integrity or real charities http://t.co/JPBWUmUiy5 | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates... Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education http://t.co/xiwnTE83kr #BillGates #GMO #glyphosate #cancer | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation, Clinton Ties, and Control of Education | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Silver_Lake_Partners | Jul 23 08:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sourcewatch.org | Silver Lake Partners - SourceWatch [ http://ur1.ca/n7dqa ] | Jul 23 08:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624170431633821696 | Jul 23 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz that sounds like one of Newton's laws! Should we call it Schestowitz's First Law of Computer Security??😀 | Jul 23 11:57 | |
| schestowitz | It's more to do with spam than security. Maybe we can learn how serious and widespread back doors are based on volume of spam :-) | Jul 23 11:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624173536572276736 | Jul 23 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I agree. There was a time before the web when we used to crave for news. Now we are overwhelmed by spam and crave credibility | Jul 23 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | Paper scarcity | Jul 23 12:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624174961742245888 https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624175451708239872 | Jul 23 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz actually, he only got fired from Fox Business. He's still a contributor to Fox News. IMHO, it was publicity for his book. | Jul 23 12:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and the number of spam invites has increased substantially | Jul 23 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In | Jul 23 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian/Ubuntu http://t.co/DkU3EhfpHm | Jul 23 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 23 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In Debian/Ubuntu - Phoronix | Jul 23 12:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624177732016996352 | Jul 23 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Establishment/institutionalised #racism as practiced in #Mexico by the #SpanishScum is as corrosive as overt display https://t.co/MMNQkHtlhI | Jul 23 12:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Establishment/institutionalised racism treated with far more tolerance than personal/individual racism as if might(or magnitude)makes right | Jul 23 12:23 | |
| schestowitz | in Philippines (still called under the occupier) too | Jul 23 12:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624179575950409728 | Jul 23 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: + #Colombia, #Honduras, #Guatemala, #Chile… generally any colony where there is a #Spanish-descended clique in power https://t.co/q2OGWHFrZt | Jul 23 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT in Philippines (still called under the occupier) too | Jul 23 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | Well, now they have economic issues too.... about time | Jul 23 12:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624182341292830720 | Jul 23 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's unbelievable but true. I still wonder how did #Spain waste *all* of 300+ years of #plundering 'Latin'America https://t.co/Q5uksU8Elf | Jul 23 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT Well, now they have economic issues too.... about time | Jul 23 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | It still does to a degree, I think. Look whose blood the richest families have. | Jul 23 12:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes | Jul 23 12:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes to the RSS Miner - Softpedia | Jul 23 12:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A guide for community management from Jono | Jul 23 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide for community management from Jono Bacon | Tux Machines | Jul 23 12:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now | Tux Machines | Jul 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software | Jul 23 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 23 13:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Orca Open-Source Screen Reader Implements | Jul 23 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Orca Open-Source Screen Reader Implements Speech Support for MathML Content - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi Hotspot | Jul 23 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu Touch | Jul 23 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi Hotspot (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu Touch - Softpedia | Jul 23 13:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | systemd evolving - DevOps Reactions [ http://ur1.ca/n7fk7 ] | Jul 23 13:22 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Movie studios keep asking Google to remove pirated content on their own computers [ http://ur1.ca/n7fur ] | Jul 23 13:52 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on the 2GB Intel Compute Stick - Liliputing | Jul 23 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Intel Compute Stick Review: The Shape of Things to Come | NDTV Gadgets | Jul 23 14:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneylife.in | Computing with a Stick! - Moneylife | Jul 23 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com | A guide to PC sticks: What can they actually do? | Jul 23 14:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux | Jul 23 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.1.3 LTS http://t.co/Er52QbRMpF | Jul 23 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 23 14:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to ruin an open source project: Let me | Jul 23 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | count the ways http://t.co/aN9Jq7Mx4C | Jul 23 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to ruin an open source project: Let me count the ways | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade | Jul 23 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu 15.04 Now http://t.co/VcUJVAvbZ5 | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 Now | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policy | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policy web page | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important | Jul 23 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features on Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/0KeePiGgbO | Jul 23 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch | Tux Machines | Jul 23 14:11 | |
| *nj3ma|mobile is now known as long|game | Jul 23 14:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games | Jul 23 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KzfSa69Y22 (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | machines coming http://t.co/nQNz5I7pZa | Jul 23 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games - Softpedia | Jul 23 15:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcr-online.biz) | Jul 23 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcr-online.biz | Everything tech dealers need to know about Steam Machine | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail | Jul 23 15:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important | Jul 23 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features on Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/E7wIozkyQu | Jul 23 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch - Softpedia | Jul 23 15:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One | Jul 23 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Releases Code http://t.co/jtbLrpWlmk | Jul 23 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One Releases Code | Techrights | Jul 23 15:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Devices http://t.co/V7HPb67QwN | Jul 23 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Devices | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell | Jul 23 15:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intervention http://t.co/J4fz04N0oP | Jul 23 15:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell Intervention | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/hOFPQUpRYa | Jul 23 15:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:08 | |
| MinceR | http://kotaku.com/pro-tip-dont-copy-battlefield-3-stingers-1719695507 | Jul 23 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Pro-Tip: Don't Copy Battlefield 3 Stingers [ http://ur1.ca/n7gme ] | Jul 23 15:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220690992869376 https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220794940293120 | Jul 23 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz 📡📡📡 Super Scary https://t.co/1NbsMtlEZV #1984 #Security #Privacy | Jul 23 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.m.wikipedia.org | Telescreen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 23 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZ | Jul 23 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZ | Jul 23 15:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/624222740451430400 | Jul 23 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz that makes their message immediately suspicious anyways .. | Jul 23 15:21 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/M9ZArbg.png | Jul 23 15:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really if that was done for Australia it would lot more screwballed. | Jul 23 15:54 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember pinegap setup is one of the biggest existing data collectors. | Jul 23 15:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap | Jul 23 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pine Gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 23 15:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: weclome to legal stupid. Its not legal for lots of USA intelegence groups to spy inside the USA or on USA based cits. There is absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request. | Jul 23 15:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ctgoSSRuMy | Jul 23 17:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/IdeQtNXIuu | Jul 23 17:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 23 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 17:26 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 23 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/624290195110776832 | Jul 23 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz https://t.co/KK4XAD8vq3 | Jul 23 20:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyT | Jul 23 20:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/4s814jpylm | Jul 23 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 20:54 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/22/os_x_root_hole/ | Jul 23 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Get root on an OS X 10.10 Mac: The exploit is so trivial it fits in a tweet • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/n7k00 ] | Jul 23 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624316859421077504 | Jul 23 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's been a long time since I went to speak at any conference | Jul 23 21:36 | |
| schestowitz | I always found that to be a waste of time myself, for several reasons | Jul 23 21:36 |
| schestowitz | It's an old habit, like publishing paper, assuming no Internet and paper scarcity; same with gatherings like conferences | Jul 23 21:37 |
| cubexyz | the net is a bit nebulous though | Jul 23 21:40 |
| cubexyz | anything important should be printed out | Jul 23 21:41 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge isn't 100%, repos disappear, accidents happen | Jul 23 21:42 |
| MinceR | sourceforge is shit | Jul 23 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2FDfNB2Qdh (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version - Softpedia | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | India http://t.co/vqqfHtsF8I | Jul 23 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infotechlead.com | Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in India | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infotechlead.com) https://t.co/pltOYbj4QH | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Jul 23 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Training Kicks Off $79 Pricing for India | Linux.com | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Jul 23 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cpVnIVrp0M (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 21:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HIG updates http://t.co/efGkVajxDc | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HIG updates | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines France publishes free software procurement | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | templates http://t.co/R3D1r3vGBB | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France publishes free software procurement templates | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Passwords and Settings for Ark | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CNbHejSkLe (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7k6o | Jul 23 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Training for India http://t.co/3fwXDMyzZn | Jul 23 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation Training for India | Tux Machines | Jul 23 21:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624323377126203392 | Jul 23 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz well historically I would not speak at confs that were not free/open to public, so rarely did so in US generally | Jul 23 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | What about libreplanet? | Jul 23 22:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How I finally got permission to use my own | Jul 23 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computer | Jul 23 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mvKEwEgvMB (opensource.com) | Jul 23 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Jay LaCroix shares his Linux story | Opensource.com | Jul 23 22:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyT | Jul 23 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 23 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 22:06 | |
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| cubexyz | it's interesting that all these conversion stories seem to be from win-some-vesion to Linux | Jul 23 22:12 |
| cubexyz | the true story of what happened is more like this: | Jul 23 22:14 |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@162.244.25.66) has left #techrights | Jul 23 22:15 | |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs Unix -> BSD -> SunOS/AT&T Unix Sys V/and derivatives | Jul 23 22:16 |
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| cubexyz | then later on Minix | Jul 23 22:16 |
| cubexyz | after that then Linux | Jul 23 22:16 |
| cubexyz | so this experience of win98 to Linux isn't universal | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FiT5jZIMFi (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes - Softpedia | Jul 23 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 23 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MnPDjMyjbU (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on Twitter - Softpedia | Jul 23 22:17 | |
| cubexyz | it's just sad that so many folks' first computer experience was some version of windows | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.17.4 http://t.co/iKKNhTgfIp | Jul 23 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (permalink.gmane.org) | Jul 23 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.17.4 | Jul 23 22:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624327240923222016 | Jul 23 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz that was among the rare exceptions ;. I had spoken at a few of them actually. | Jul 23 22:18 | |
| cubexyz | Xerox had a multi-lingual system in the 1980s | Jul 23 22:18 |
| cubexyz | IBM VM/SP didn't crash, VMS didn't crash, TOPS-20 same | Jul 23 22:19 |
| cubexyz | win95 was positively awful | Jul 23 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The battle between open-source and proprietary | Jul 23 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software for drone development | Jul 23 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eRehrgUuJp (sdtimes.com) | Jul 23 22:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | The battle between open-source and proprietary software for drone development - SD Times | Jul 23 22:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: man-pages-4.01 is released | Jul 23 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cef56ihwxr | Jul 23 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-man-pages.blogspot.co.uk | Linux man-pages: man-pages-4.01 is released | Jul 23 22:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux-man-pages.blogspot.co.uk) | Jul 23 22:21 |
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| MinceR | so was winblows nt, macos and m$-dos | Jul 23 22:21 |
| MinceR | and so's lendows | Jul 23 22:21 |
| cubexyz | there's no lendows yet | Jul 23 22:21 |
| cubexyz | let's keep it that way :) | Jul 23 22:21 |
| MinceR | there are several distributions of lendows already | Jul 23 22:22 |
| MinceR | in chronological order: fedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debian | Jul 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328015992860673 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328218779103232 | Jul 23 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz also when youre in an oppresive country it can be liberating going places that have real freedom and regard for human dignity | Jul 23 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz libreplanet is always an excellent event | Jul 23 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | US is not so low in the list, but low for Western country. Also, it's how it treats foreign countries that's most appalling. | Jul 23 22:23 |
| msb_ | PC-DOS wasn't bad. You could program in assembly, BASIC and C, do color graphics, network via modem, modify the OS by intercepting system-call interrupts with your own code. It was like a minicomputer. | Jul 23 22:25 |
| MinceR | it didn't do half of what an os is supposed to do | Jul 23 22:25 |
| MinceR | it did not abstract the hardware at all | Jul 23 22:25 |
| msb_ | Not what an OS does today, but it did what a minicomputer, like the LINC or PDP-8, did then, only much better. | Jul 23 22:26 |
| msb_ | And much cheaper. | Jul 23 22:27 |
| msb_ | IBM-PC was a great little machine. | Jul 23 22:27 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lsinger favourited 'The battle between open-source and proprietary software for...' | Jul 23 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Passwords and Settings for Ark | Jul 23 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/X5e1i8bgJd (www.aelog.org) | Jul 23 22:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aelog.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | aelog | Jul 23 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The GNOME 3 Human Interface Guidelines were | Jul 23 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released just under a year ago." | Jul 23 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fNSxcEhpZw (blogs.gnome.org) | Jul 23 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2015/07/23/hig-updates/ ) | Jul 23 22:28 | |
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| msb_ | There was lots of good software for it, too. XTREE filemanager, BRIEF editor, and a great C compiler and runtime system whose name I can't remember. Not MS-C; that was so buggy you always had to run it with the optimizer turned off. | Jul 23 22:32 |
| MinceR | borland? watcom? | Jul 23 22:33 |
| MinceR | djgpp? | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today http://t.co/IgIkf1f1m4 (www.cio.com) | Jul 23 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to today | CIO | Jul 23 22:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How I use Android: App designer and Android | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | blogger Liam Spradlin http://t.co/tVGIZi01dn | Jul 23 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | How I use Android: App designer and Android blogger Liam Spradlin | Computerworld | Jul 23 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Jul 23 22:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't | Jul 23 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Need http://t.co/HfuE7k1P02 (www.forbes.com) | Jul 23 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't Need - Forbes | Jul 23 22:33 | |
| msb_ | Right, Borland! | Jul 23 22:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/624332203548348416 | Jul 23 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Going from 64mb to 384mb must have been amazing. It makes me smile and think of my early computing breaking and fixing it. | Jul 23 22:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Engineering team opening. | Jul 23 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mLgk526O6Z (paul.frields.org) | Jul 23 22:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org | Fedora Engineering team opening. - The Grand Fallacy | Jul 23 22:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi RT: @tuxmachines: @fedora Engineering team | Jul 23 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | opening. http://t.co/RoAzZ0zbOs | Jul 23 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paul.frields.org) | Jul 23 22:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu-ready Type 6 Compact module" | Jul 23 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eFarqnjSV8 (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 23 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged Broadwell Type 6 COM loads up on USB, PCIe · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 23 22:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 open source storage solutions that might be | Jul 23 22:41 |
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| cubexyz | msb_, ripping off CP/M and Kildall to create QDOS, which was used to make PC-DOS, MSDOS | Jul 23 22:47 |
| cubexyz | makes it kind of bad | Jul 23 22:47 |
| cubexyz | we should have went to Unix much earlier but the hardware wasn't quite there | Jul 23 22:48 |
| msb_ | Programming was much simpler. To put a dot on the screen you wrote the color code into the byte or half-byte corresponding to the x and y coordinates, and there it was. Now you have to go through so much middleware and toolkits I wonder if it's any faster, even with the cpu clock hundreds of times faster. | Jul 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | we could have went to unix much earlier, if ibm's management weren't a bunch of corrupt idiots | Jul 23 22:48 |
| MinceR | msb_: now programs can share a display, handle a far greater variety of GPUs and displays, take advantage of 2D and 3D acceleration, and be kept from crashing each other or the OS. | Jul 23 22:49 |
| cubexyz | I can go directly to xlib if necessary | Jul 23 22:49 |
| msb_ | Kildall was too busy flying his plane that day to respond. | Jul 23 22:50 |
| MinceR | must have been extremely urgent, to make m$-dos acceptable | Jul 23 22:50 |
| cubexyz | if I want to go back to hardware registers I have my Amiga for that | Jul 23 22:50 |
| msb_ | MinceR: yes, but with a single user and a single type of hardware you didn't need all that versatility. | Jul 23 22:50 |
| cubexyz | msb_, also we have freedos these days which is FOSS | Jul 23 22:51 |
| MinceR | msb_: even with a single user, access control and memory protection are useful | Jul 23 22:51 |
| MinceR | and i have many types of hardware | Jul 23 22:51 |
| cubexyz | yes, MMUs are good :) | Jul 23 22:51 |
| cubexyz | the ability to run a web browser, irc, and other utilities simultaneously is a big bonus | Jul 23 22:53 |
| msb_ | Every biochem lab I worked in had one kind of minicomputer. I had one kind of microcomputer. We did fine. | Jul 23 22:53 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Jul 23 22:53 |
| msb_ | Yes, the Internet is a very good thing for humanity. | Jul 23 22:54 |
| cubexyz | I like Minis, I still program them albeit via emulation | Jul 23 22:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I don't know whether many your responses are positive or sarcastic. | Jul 23 22:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 23 22:55 |
| cubexyz | and there is value in learning simpler operating systems | Jul 23 22:56 |
| cubexyz | modern ones are so complex that it makes learning some things difficult | Jul 23 22:56 |
| MinceR | especially the ones that were "designed" by people who worship unnecessary complexity | Jul 23 22:57 |
| cubexyz | also the IBM PC BIOS is well understood | Jul 23 22:59 |
| MinceR | which means it had to go | Jul 23 22:59 |
| msb_ | With the Web we finally have effective freedom of speech, with which we can reach millions of people for about $10/month for website hosting. | Jul 23 22:59 |
| MinceR | the web is being closed | Jul 23 23:00 |
| msb_ | How? | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | html5 supports DRM and recommends patent-encumbered video codecs | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | also, blobs | Jul 23 23:00 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, there's an important historical precedent with the IBM PC | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | multiple ones | Jul 23 23:00 |
| cubexyz | for the earliest version of the BIOS one used intel utilities to assembly it, not microsoft | Jul 23 23:01 |
| MinceR | the first(?) computer that was friendly to cloning | Jul 23 23:01 |
| cubexyz | shortly after version 1.0 it switched over to microsoft | Jul 23 23:01 |
| MinceR | but also m$'s big chance to destroy the IT industry | Jul 23 23:01 |
| cubexyz | well actually the Soviets cloned the PDP-11s | Jul 23 23:01 |
| msb_ | MinceR: You can create your own website and use HTML4 with no DRM. | Jul 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | but others will make their websites at least as closed as flash sites | Jul 23 23:02 |
| MinceR | to the cheers of people celebrating the death of flash, not noticing that html5 is the new flash | Jul 23 23:02 |
| msb_ | So? The important thing is that people who want to broadcast good information can do it openly. | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | for how long? | Jul 23 23:04 |
| msb_ | and simply and inexpensively. | Jul 23 23:04 |
| cubexyz | well you could complain about wmv, COM, ActiveX and .Net, DDE, ASP, etc etc | Jul 23 23:04 |
| cubexyz | the list goes on and on | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, the IT industry is full of cancer | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | and with uefi, it seems to be finally dying | Jul 23 23:04 |
| cubexyz | chromeboxes have coreboot | Jul 23 23:04 |
| MinceR | all of them? | Jul 23 23:05 |
| MinceR | i've seen one advertised with the option of an "upgrade" to vista10 | Jul 23 23:05 |
| cubexyz | probably not all of them | Jul 23 23:05 |
| MinceR | naturally, "won't run the code you write" is a "feature" that is never advertised | Jul 23 23:06 |
| cubexyz | I blogged about that, just a sec I'll find the link | Jul 23 23:07 |
| msb_ | Are there any PCs that won't run Linux due to UEFI? I thought all major distros had a way around it. | Jul 23 23:07 |
| MinceR | maybe the vista10 logo requirements will already exclude it | Jul 23 23:08 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/2015/03/easy-way-to-get-coreboot.html | Jul 23 23:08 |
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| MinceR | maybe canonical's and redcrap's shims (for which they paid m$) will be allowed for a while | Jul 23 23:08 |
| MinceR | and then m$ will generate a malware scare and use that as an excuse to lock them out, too | Jul 23 23:08 |
| MinceR | it's not easy to get coreboot on "intel boot guard" | Jul 23 23:09 |
| cubexyz | intel needs to work with the coreboot people to fix that | Jul 23 23:10 |
| msb_ | Corporate psychopath shitpigs have been trying for decades to kill free computing and information sharing. But clever people have always found a way around their blocks. | Jul 23 23:10 |
| MinceR | it seems that the majority is losing their desire for freedom | Jul 23 23:12 |
| MinceR | we're falling into a worldwide fascist dystopia | Jul 23 23:12 |
| msb_ | Also, we can now get little computers like Raspberry-Pi (but more powerful) for about $100 that will run Linux, get on the Net, do everything. | Jul 23 23:13 |
| MinceR | i wonder when those will be banned | Jul 23 23:13 |
| MinceR | or just replaced with the usual kind of remote-controlled zombie "computer" | Jul 23 23:13 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Why don't you just cut to the chase and wonder when everyone will be lobotomized at birth? | Jul 23 23:14 |
| msb_ | You are being very pessimistic. | Jul 23 23:14 |
| MinceR | that's interesting too | Jul 23 23:14 |
| cubexyz | my custom made PDP-11 clone will save the world :) | Jul 23 23:15 |
| msb_ | Cheer up! Smoke some cannabis. Do you have that in Hungary? | Jul 23 23:15 |
| MinceR | we probably do, but it's illegal | Jul 23 23:15 |
| MinceR | only the "white people's drugs" are allowed | Jul 23 23:16 |
| MinceR | tobacco and ethanol | Jul 23 23:16 |
| msb_ | Yes, consciousness is illegal, but you can get psychedelics even so. | Jul 23 23:16 |
| cubexyz | can't you just turn off intel boot guard? | Jul 23 23:16 |
| MinceR | afaik you can't | Jul 23 23:16 |
| cubexyz | if you own the computer... | Jul 23 23:16 |
| msb_ | Buy AMD, not Intel. | Jul 23 23:17 |
| MinceR | for how long will AMD resist this? | Jul 23 23:18 |
| cubexyz | not a great variety of choices there | Jul 23 23:18 |
| MinceR | (assuming they don't have their own shit already) | Jul 23 23:18 |
| msb_ | AMD-FX8350. The only way to fly! 8 cores, less than $200 and very fast. | Jul 23 23:18 |
| msb_ | Asus mobo, 16GB of RAM, a 3TB WD Caviar-Black disk, and a good case/PS. For less than $1,000 you have a desktop computer equal to a supercomputer of 10-20 years ago. | Jul 23 23:24 |
| msb_ | Or if you're a kid on a low budget, $100 buys a Linux Net-ready SBC. | Jul 23 23:25 |
| msb_ | ...a supercomputer that cost $10,000,000 | Jul 23 23:26 |
| msb_ | All stemming from Gutenberg and the printing press. | Jul 23 23:28 |
| msb_ | Now we print supercomputers on silicon chips. | Jul 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | i wish we really did | Jul 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | but it's just 'they' for now | Jul 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | you'd have to use TTL chips to make your own CPU | Jul 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | possible but difficult | Jul 23 23:29 |
| cubexyz | or I guess you could use relays | Jul 23 23:30 |
| msb_ | The ultra-VLSI technology exists. Some country is going to make supercomputer chips with it and sell them because they want the business. | Jul 23 23:32 |
| msb_ | Like China. | Jul 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | there's cheap FPGA boards now | Jul 23 23:32 |
| cubexyz | so we are getting there | Jul 23 23:33 |
| msb_ | Maybe it will have to be smuggled in. "Hey, meester, you want Raspberry-Pi? I got, cheap." | Jul 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | countries didn't even want the business of selling laptops with GNU/Linux enough | Jul 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | there's more money in selling shiny crap that doesn't work. | Jul 23 23:34 |
| MinceR | even EeePCs were only sold in this hellhole with winblows | Jul 23 23:34 |
| msb_ | In a way, it's good that some important things that people want, are illegal. It induces people to become minor outlaws, and teaches them that government is a bunch of psychopaths out to control and rob them. | Jul 23 23:35 |
| MinceR | it also makes those things less safe and a lot more costly | Jul 23 23:36 |
| msb_ | Maybe Goddess created Earth to train the faithful. | Jul 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | then again, the IT industry has been controlled by criminals for a while already | Jul 23 23:37 |
| MinceR | m$, crApple | Jul 23 23:37 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Yes, most software that people buy and have is crap, because that's what they're offerred if they naively walk into a store. | Jul 23 23:38 |
| msb_ | But if they know about FOSS, they can get something good. | Jul 23 23:39 |
| msb_ | And even with the crap, on the Net they can learn about FOSS. | Jul 23 23:39 |
| cubexyz | there's not many computer stores I like nowadays | Jul 23 23:40 |
| msb_ | If you go into a forest and start chewing on random plants, you will be disappointed. But if you know where to look, you can find yummy food. | Jul 23 23:41 |
| msb_ | The life-task of people who know better, like us, is to teach and turn-on people who don't. | Jul 23 23:42 |
| msb_ | That's why we're here! | Jul 23 23:43 |
| cubexyz | probably there's a linux store in Toronto somewhere | Jul 23 23:43 |
| cubexyz | wow, they're selling P4 computers for $20 :) | Jul 23 23:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.eused.ca/Pricelist.htm | Jul 23 23:44 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 23:45 |
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| msb_ | All these psychopaths and governments and other difficulties on Earth do induce people to evolve personally. | Jul 23 23:48 |
| msb_ | Maybe Frank Herbert was talking about Earth when he wrote that about Dune. He wrote about psychedelics in some of his books. | Jul 23 23:49 |
| msb_ | I'll have to remember that. It's the canonical cure for depression. | Jul 23 23:51 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, some of that stuff is impossible | Jul 23 23:53 |
| MinceR | like the genetic memories in humans | Jul 23 23:53 |
| msb_ | Paul Muad-Dib: We Fremen have a saying: "God created Arakis to train the faithful." One cannot go against the word of God. " | Jul 23 23:55 |
| MinceR | pity there's no "God" | Jul 23 23:56 |
| msb_ | But Earth exists, and will train you, MinceR, if you can relax a little. | Jul 23 23:57 |
| MinceR | "i believe that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you... stranger." | Jul 23 23:58 |
| MinceR | will it train me to defeat billions of humans? | Jul 23 23:59 |
| msb_ | Looking at the negative side of things prepares us for catastrophes that may occur. But _only_ looking at the negative side prevents us from enjoying life and growing. | Jul 23 23:59 |
| msb_ | It will train you to help wake up billions of humans! | Jul 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | we won't get to enjoy life for long or grow if these people have their way | Jul 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | can you wake up the one who has no mind? | Jul 24 00:00 |
| msb_ | Billions of people aren't attacking you. They are lead by a few organized psychopaths. | Jul 24 00:01 |
| msb_ | All those people _do_ have minds. They have been programmed to stay in Sleep. They aren't dead. | Jul 24 00:02 |
| msb_ | They can wake up. | Jul 24 00:02 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: The knowledge from many different people is summarized here. The best stuff is toward the end. Please read the whole thing. http://cosmicpenguin.com/CauseAndCure.html | Jul 24 00:06 |
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| MinceR | oh, i've read it before | Jul 24 00:15 |
| MinceR | and bookmarked it because i may want to read some of those books | Jul 24 00:15 |
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| msb_ | "spice expands consciousness" The whole Dune story is about a psychedelic! | Jul 24 00:46 |
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| cubexyz | once I was asked if microsoft made windows bad on purpose | Jul 24 01:01 |
| cubexyz | but actually I think it's just a bad design | Jul 24 01:02 |
| cubexyz | Minix could actually have the best design, but there's other issues with it | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | i think they simply don't possess the knowledge and expertise required to come up with bad designs | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | though their management and corporate culture certainly doesn't help | Jul 24 01:03 |
| cubexyz | you mean good designs? :) | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | s/bad/good/ | Jul 24 01:03 |
| MinceR | they probably believe they're being clever, like poettering does | Jul 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | and sievers | Jul 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | "ooh, this is so beautifully baroque, i'm a fucking genius!" | Jul 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | m$ also hired Mr. I Define Myself By My Hatred Of Unix to design NT | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | the results were predictable | Jul 24 01:05 |
| cubexyz | Cutler | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 24 01:05 |
| cubexyz | well he's a goof | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | that guy wouldn't recognize a good design if it hit him in the head with a hammer | Jul 24 01:05 |
| cubexyz | he probably hated the fact that Unix/BSD was circulating around for free | Jul 24 01:05 |
| MinceR | like gates, who's apparently incapable of understanding that not every line of code is written with the intention to make money | Jul 24 01:06 |
| cubexyz | the higher ups at Microsoft are all about control and $$$ | Jul 24 01:06 |
| cubexyz | it's a toxic environment | Jul 24 01:06 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 24 01:07 |
| MinceR | and that attitude infected redcrap too | Jul 24 01:07 |
| cubexyz | it is a pity about Red Hat | Jul 24 01:10 |
| cubexyz | a lot of people really liked 5.2, 6.0, 6.1 etc | Jul 24 01:11 |
| cubexyz | if you want to see an OS without the bloat there's OpenBSD for vax | Jul 24 01:11 |
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| cubexyz | it can't have bloat if it has to work in 16 megs of ram | Jul 24 01:11 |
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| cubexyz | tinycore and ttylinux are anti-systemd for philosophical and technical reasons | Jul 24 01:14 |
| msb_ | I think Windows purposely contains bugs to induce people to buy the next version. | Jul 24 01:15 |
| cubexyz | it's a possibility, but the design _is_ bad | Jul 24 01:16 |
| cubexyz | you're implying that the bugs are introduced at EOL to get folks to upgrade | Jul 24 01:19 |
| cubexyz | definitely possible | Jul 24 01:19 |
| msb_ | Nah, the bugs are included when it's new. | Jul 24 01:19 |
| cubexyz | do they still use WGA? | Jul 24 01:20 |
| msb_ | It gives them plausible denial. "Duh, we don't know how to make an OS, that's why there are bugs. It's not to make people buy the next version." | Jul 24 01:20 |
| cubexyz | and the stupid thing about WGA is that it doesn't even validate Windows XP any more! | Jul 24 01:21 |
| cubexyz | it just barfs out errors | Jul 24 01:22 |
| cubexyz | it's actually pretty jarring to use windows on a customer's computer | Jul 24 01:24 |
| cubexyz | fortunately a few of my customers have linux boxes as well | Jul 24 01:27 |
| cubexyz | BSD people are pretty rare | Jul 24 01:29 |
| MinceR | this piece of shit raspberry py freezes every time i plug a particular microsd card into it | Jul 24 01:32 |
| MinceR | except when it just ignores the card even exists | Jul 24 01:32 |
| MinceR | WGA is more likely to find a genuine copy to be "pirated" than to realize that WINE isn't winblows | Jul 24 01:33 |
| MinceR | typical m$ trash quality | Jul 24 01:33 |
| msb_ | Windows Genuine Advantage messes up windows even more if it thinks it's pirated. That's real NewSpeak! | Jul 24 01:33 |
| cubexyz | Windows Genuine Disadvantage :) | Jul 24 01:34 |
| msb_ | Only time I've used Windows in this century was on a neighbor's laptop to scope out parts for my present computer, when the last one died. | Jul 24 01:36 |
| cubexyz | msb_, did you know you can buy "The Evil Within" at the Microsoft Store? | Jul 24 01:37 |
| cubexyz | I find that hilarious | Jul 24 01:37 |
| msb_ | Is that a game? | Jul 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | if i do, do they ship gates to my home in a cage? | Jul 24 01:38 |
| msb_ | Hope he has a muzzle. | Jul 24 01:38 |
| cubexyz | yes...Xbox one game | Jul 24 01:38 |
| cubexyz | I just thought it was appropriate | Jul 24 01:39 |
| msb_ | Is there an Xbox emulator for Linux? | Jul 24 01:41 |
| cubexyz | don't think so | Jul 24 01:42 |
| cubexyz | don't think the API is documented very well | Jul 24 01:44 |
| msb_ | Also for playstation and pc. But it sounds disgusting. | Jul 24 01:44 |
| msb_ | But wouldn't there be someone with a logic analyzer and nothing else to do who would pull one apart and figure out the API? | Jul 24 01:45 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jul 24 01:46 |
| cubexyz | given enough time and effort | Jul 24 01:46 |
| MinceR | in a decade or two | Jul 24 01:46 |
| MinceR | or a century | Jul 24 01:46 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 24 02:12 |
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| cubexyz | systemd, consolekit, polkit ugh | Jul 24 04:11 |
| cubexyz | FC1 didn't have any of those | Jul 24 04:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/01micko/status/624390981601759233 | Jul 24 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @glynmoody @schestowitz "tinfoil twitter" in action from #f-droid #opensource #freesoftware http://t.co/N6qa14m2XZ | Jul 24 05:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @glynmoody @schestowitz "tinfoil twitter" in action from #f-droid #opensource #freesoftware http://t.co/N6qa14m2XZ | Jul 24 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368253 | Jul 24 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Telegram in #Fedora http://fedoramagazine.org/telegram-in-fedora/ #redhat #gnu #linux #freesw | Jul 24 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | "SilverWolf: Their contest is marketing blabla see http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/" | Jul 24 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | Telegram in Fedora - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n6p75 ] | Jul 24 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thoughtcrime.org | Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers [ http://ur1.ca/n7nww ] | Jul 24 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | "It does NOT prove anything" | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure what exactly their argument is supposed to be piratenpanda… They basically seem to be saying “If we knew what the message was it wouldn’t be secure!” which is pretty much a given and also exactly what’s being obscured. Am I missing something or is this just a competing project that hasn’t recieved as much publicity/actual knowledgable adoption making an excuse for why this doesn’t count as security? | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | Remember, for the average person, convenience is more important than anything else. If Telegram offers any obscurity, it’s better than alternatives. If it offers decent obscurity while maintaining convenience levels that are easy enough for non-security focused Joe Average then it’s more likely to gain adoption than a perfect security that is harder to get in to. There will likely never be easy security that is perfect security, the | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | trick is finding a good balance. | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | Telegram strikes a good balance of security, ease of use, and availability. The contest may be “marketing blabla” but if it were so easy to crack why has nobody chosen to get the reward? If it’s because you can’t do it wit | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | "without the initial message, then that’s going to be good enough for most." | Jul 24 05:52 |
| schestowitz | "@priatepanda how is using the opensource free software telegram via secret chat (no server) unsecure? Please prove it before criticizing, thank you." | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | "I didnt say that. Just mentioning that their contest is in no way any indication how secure it is and how it is flawed" | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | And i dont trust them | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | Thats why i use textsecure | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 05:53 |
| schestowitz | "Also as mentioned in the other thread, they still have the meta data and if their business is as shady as their marketing, well that doesn’t increase my willingness of trusting them more" | Jul 24 05:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/63https://joindiaspora.com/posts/637784277842 | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11755147/Hackers-are-winning-the-digital-war-fair-play-to-them.html | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > No. Inexcusably bad design is running rampant and left unpunished. The | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > managers that brought about these systems have been brought to justice | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | > or they will just keep making pushover garbage. | Jul 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, but they don't want to 'get' it. | Jul 24 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 24 09:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Hackers are winning the digital war - fair play to them - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/n7pl4 ] | Jul 24 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624499892803637248 | Jul 24 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Maybe @TheRegister wants to disrupt #WP #hegemony & intro healthy #diversity:CMS @b2evolution http://t.co/s4nPhL4IX3 https://t.co/Gqh0Uutf7G | Jul 24 09:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> b2evolution.net | b2evolution blog/social CMS - A complete engine for your website! | Jul 24 09:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #theRegister with the usual sensationalism http://t.co/yVwdWXalvo | Jul 24 09:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @elementary favourited 'elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop...' | Jul 24 09:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel | Jul 24 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Jul 24 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/I60BJllCKa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 09:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Tux Machines | Jul 24 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | > https://www.google.com/search?q=opendocument+format&hl=en | Jul 24 09:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | opendocument format - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/n7ppz ] | Jul 24 09:54 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > still missing the Document Foundation's announcement there in their index | Jul 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz | In what sense? It is imperative to have it appear higher? | Jul 24 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 24 10:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alternative to awful OEM solutions | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4kcSRQSEQO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 10:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta alternative to awful OEM solutions | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Jul 24 10:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 | Jul 24 10:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Spark http://t.co/QfT3UuiBub | Jul 24 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.forbes.com) | Jul 24 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open Source Spark - Forbes | Jul 24 10:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android in 2020: How much will it change in | Jul 24 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | five years? http://t.co/QfT3UuiBub | Jul 24 10:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alternative to awful OEM solutions | Jul 24 10:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7sLb7kAvJi (arstechnica.com) | Jul 24 10:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta alternative to awful OEM solutions | Ars Technica | Jul 24 10:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple | Jul 24 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 24 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel | Jul 24 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Jul 24 10:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel Update, Users Urged to Update Now - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Adds Navigation | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements to Web Apps http://t.co/4jpSq4o10j | Jul 24 10:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Adds Navigation Improvements to Web Apps - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Include Calendar App and | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dekko Email Client by Default | Jul 24 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/f78VRXw4YF (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 10:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Include Calendar App and Dekko Email Client by Default - Softpedia | Jul 24 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung launches additional information | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | services for Tizen TV http://t.co/FSlvzTBj1B | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 24 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung launches additional information services for Tizen TV - Tizen Experts | Jul 24 10:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/47k7virDQe (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 24 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Linux Journal | Jul 24 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open | Jul 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Spark http://t.co/lXjpEehEo1 | Jul 24 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open Source Spark | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/624514837910044672 https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/624515075043422208 | Jul 24 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz As a guy who watches a lot of Japanese adds it seems to parents selling to on screen children..... | Jul 24 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz As an example they are currently celebrating the Revive version of the RX-78 and has a dad building for his young son. | Jul 24 10:51 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android in 2020: How much will it change in five years? | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The French want to BAN .doc and .xls files from Le Gouvernement | Tux Machines | Jul 24 10:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade | Jul 24 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade Ready | Jul 24 10:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | SmartGit 7 Preview 12 Now Ready for Download and Testing - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Don't Be Patchman Is the First Game to Launch | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Steam Only for Linux | Jul 24 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MWLzzkXuAC (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Don't Be Patchman Is the First Game to Launch on Steam Only for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell 3.17.4 Adds Four-Finger Swipe | Jul 24 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gesture http://t.co/1zHETBFPKc | Jul 24 11:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Shell 3.17.4 Adds Four-Finger Swipe Gesture - Phoronix | Jul 24 11:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Terraria Is Finally Coming on Linux | Jul 24 11:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Terraria Is Finally Coming on Linux - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Linux's DNF Package Manager Gets New | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features, Many Bugfixes http://t.co/1d9y0ngzDt | Jul 24 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora Linux's DNF Package Manager Gets New Features, Many Bugfixes - Softpedia | Jul 24 11:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mutter 3.17.4 Improves HiDPI On Wayland, Adds | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compositor-Side Animated Cursors | Jul 24 11:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mutter 3.17.4 Improves HiDPI On Wayland, Adds Compositor-Side Animated Cursors - Phoronix | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready http://t.co/wyn3EWTwyu | Jul 24 11:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade Ready | Tux Machines | Jul 24 11:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Advanced spyware for Android now available to | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | script kiddies everywhere | Jul 24 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MQSx227zWS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 11:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advanced spyware for Android now available to script kiddies everywhere | Tux Machines | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MDN celebrates 10 years of documenting YOUR Web | Jul 24 11:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MDN celebrates 10 years of documenting YOUR Web | Tux Machines | Jul 24 11:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6381247 | Jul 24 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #3D printing in Fedora: From an idea to the thing http://fedoramagazine.org/3d-printing-in-fedora-from-an-idea-to-the-thing/ #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jul 24 11:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | 3D printing in Fedora: From an idea to the thing - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n7qkj ] | Jul 24 11:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6378115 | Jul 24 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU #Linux Circles Ought to Stop Promoting #VisualStudio , Neither Cross-Platform Nor Free Software http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/visual-studio-promoted-in-linux-2/ #microsoft | Jul 24 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | "Didn’t you post something the like the other day? Sorry if I’m wrong." | Jul 24 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | GNU/Linux Circles Ought to Stop Promoting Visual Studio, Which is Neither Cross-Platform Nor Free Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7nsd ] | Jul 24 12:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSCON | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: GNOME Software | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OnGJBI6Byq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: GNOME Software | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/fvOEh9E6VR | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy3 | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Q0f32HYTFB | Jul 24 12:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 24 12:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy5 | Jul 24 12:56 |
| schestowitz | >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=opendocument+format&hl=en | Jul 24 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | opendocument format - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/n7ppz ] | Jul 24 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | >> >> | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | >> >> still missing the Document Foundation's announcement there in their index | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | > > In what sense? It is imperative to have it appear higher? | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Hmm. That's a problem with Google searches, they appear different | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | depending on who and where one searches. For me, the Document | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Foundation's pages have never shown up and certainly not in the time | Jul 24 13:07 |
| schestowitz | since the recent announcement. | Jul 24 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/Wbenn1knUe | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jul 24 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7r9p | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/C8o22Nzpz5 | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7r9q | Jul 24 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony testing 'stripped back, vanilla' Android | Jul 24 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Swedish Xperia users | Jul 24 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wOcKaaYa2u (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 24 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Sony testing 'stripped back, vanilla' Android with Swedish Xperia users | ZDNet | Jul 24 13:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7r9s | Jul 24 13:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Android is a fantastic platform to develop | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for." http://t.co/B30O0tSdkK | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jul 24 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Top rookie Android developer mistakes | Jul 24 14:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7rgi | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Line Launches Lightweight Version Of Its Chat | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | App For Emerging Market Android Phones | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XpeSinMNri (techcrunch.com) | Jul 24 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Line Launches Lightweight Version Of Its Chat App For Emerging Market Android Phones | TechCrunch | Jul 24 14:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7rgj | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet the app that fans are calling ‘the best | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | thing that ever happened to Android’ | Jul 24 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jC48GShb6w (bgr.com) | Jul 24 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android apps: Nova Launcher earns wide acclaim | BGR | Jul 24 14:04 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 24 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381235 | Jul 24 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even people inside #microsoft tell me that #vista10 is not ready. This is going to hurt. http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/vista-10-will-definitely-fail/ | Jul 24 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | "A long time Microsoft fan told me that Vista 8 “does not work,” and “It’s not functional, there are things it just can’t do.” Windows is a train wreck." | Jul 24 19:17 |
| schestowitz | People at Microsoft don't use Vista 8.... it's SHIT. | Jul 24 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Run Out of Attempts and Vista 10 Will Definitely Fail | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7lf2 ] | Jul 24 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6380979 | Jul 24 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's ZDI discloses 4 new vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer http://www.infoworld.com/article/2951738/patch-management/hp-s-zdi-discloses-four-new-vulnerabilities-in-internet-explorer.html does anyone with brains still use it? | Jul 24 19:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | HP's ZDI discloses 4 new vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/n7va5 ] | Jul 24 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "There are still vendor supplied IE6 specific software that will not work outside of IE. One of my vendors at work told me one of their pieces of software might work with IE8 but no other browser, including the IE 11 that Microsoft had shoved onto most of the computers. This just highlights the fact that vendors who use Microsoft don’t care about their customers and that Microsoft does not care about anyone." | Jul 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381079 | Jul 24 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Huge Package Overhaul for #Debian and #Ubuntu http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/huge-package-overhaul-debian-and-ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jul 24 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | "I hate churn like this. It means that you won’t be able to mix binary packages from some future version of Debian with current versions. That’s something that has worked well for me for 15 years. I still have a copy of gqview, from Lenny or Squeeze, because the official package had mutated into things I did not like as much." | Jul 24 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/n7vaq ] | Jul 24 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381334 | Jul 24 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Amazon Liable For IP Violations By Its Marketplace Vendors? http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericgoldman/2015/07/23/is-amazon-liable-for-ip-violations-by-its-marketplace-vendors/ what about #ddos ? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/07/02/aws-ddos-and-stonewalling/ | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Is Amazon Liable For IP Violations By Its Marketplace Vendors? - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/n7vb4 ] | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I smell a double standard brewing." | Jul 24 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon Says I Need to Sue in Order to Merely Find Out Who Uses Their Own Facilities (AWS) to Attack My Site [ http://ur1.ca/mzb2e ] | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381012 | Jul 24 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It doesn't seem to be a Chinese or Japanese thing to use girls (like objects) to sell gadgets (objects). #korea and #taiwan do this. [1/2] | Jul 24 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I would like to know where that does not happen." | Jul 24 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Not fashionable in Europe these days because "women's rights" | Jul 24 19:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6380939 | Jul 24 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I will believe there is a GENUINE employment problem in the #uk when billionaire companies like #bt pay decent wage for eSupport staff IN UK | Jul 24 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure but will assume you mean there is a shortage of engineers there, for things very complex as REIN. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Engineering in Banana Republic is one of the best paid professions, and IT among the best. There are very few professions that pay more like medicine, and beyond that you have to be entrepreneur, politician, football player or something like that to earn more. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Everybody know that, and also everybody know that careers like accountancy are so saturated that recent graduates earn not even the minimum wage, and even so people keep choosing traditional careers. And the most common reason I have heard: accountancy is easy. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | When people complain that engineers are paid too much it’s hard to me to agree, at least in Banana Republic. | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 19:22 |
| schestowitz | BT outsources many simple jobs to other countries, instead of employing locally | Jul 24 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle tries to beef up copyright case against | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/Pvvaxs4aNv | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle tries to beef up copyright case against Android | Tux Machines | Jul 24 19:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7vf6 | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 22: Fresh Install Script (Ongoing | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development) http://t.co/EquzUgKF7D | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.smittix.co.uk) | Jul 24 19:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7vf7 | Jul 24 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smittix.co.uk | Fedora 22: Fresh Install Script (Ongoing Development) | Smittix | Jul 24 19:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6382630 | Jul 24 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bssed on what I hear, #Purism (Librem) is "Pure PR" and RMS is going to publicly chastise them. Not sure if true, but seems likely. | Jul 24 19:32 | |
| schestowitz | "Is it really “Pure PR” or something like 99% FLOSS but not fully Free? They make it clear it’s not really pure." | Jul 24 19:32 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure, I said what I heard | Jul 24 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | still not consumer-ready http://t.co/RYcsrWcqiY | Jul 24 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.engadget.com) | Jul 24 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Jul 24 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7vws | Jul 24 20:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ipullappus favourited 'Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but...' | Jul 24 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Transforms into a PC with Just a | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bluetooth Mouse - Video http://t.co/hltHItXTwz | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Transforms into a PC with Just a Bluetooth Mouse - Video - Softpedia | Jul 24 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7w8j | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android rocks out with a new Marshall | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartphone for music lovers | Jul 24 20:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ryxDpfa17w (www.techrepublic.com) | Jul 24 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android rocks out with a new Marshall smartphone for music lovers - TechRepublic | Jul 24 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7w8l | Jul 24 20:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Last Christmas was a wake-up call for | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retailers. GNU/Linux sold well, and “8.1” did | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | not" http://t.co/Y9xVdKUPoQ (mrpogson.com) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x42 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Jack Wallen Gets It | Robert Pogson | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets New Event Medals and Lots | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Fixes http://t.co/2dtH3dzqNE | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets New Event Medals and Lots of Fixes - Softpedia | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x43 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calibre Gets Support for the Crazy Expensive | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Fun SONY DPT-S1 http://t.co/Tbq5jieVs5 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre Gets Support for the Crazy Expensive and Fun SONY DPT-S1 - Softpedia | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x44 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NBD Vulnerabilities Fixed in All Supported | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/kq51HJ9Yvv | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NBD Vulnerabilities Fixed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x46 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | still not consumer-ready http://t.co/Y4euFhCyXV | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x49 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Container standards: Patching over the cracks | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/E0WfL9VEjo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x4b | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Container standards: Patching over the cracks | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6bj6E1Qedo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7x4c | Jul 24 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/vZPictJtS6 | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 24 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xgj | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rackspace for OpenStack http://t.co/jK2uybj4Uc | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jul 24 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xgl | Jul 24 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With Rackspace for OpenStack | Techrights | Jul 24 21:50 | |
| *jgay has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Jul 24 22:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by still not consumer-ready http://t.co/RYcsrWcqiY | Jul 24 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux (www.engadget.com) | Jul 24 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Jul 24 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xoh | Jul 24 22:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @speedytux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but...' | Jul 24 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | I heard that the core argument takes place in the #libreboot IRC channel on FreeNode. I don't know all the details. | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | > Attaching my pgp key here... | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Hello Roy, | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> I was forwarded your tweet, and wanted to get in front of any concerns | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> you have about our current status, our intentions, and our beliefs. | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Would you mind sharing any concerns you may have? | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Any free software supporter has directly aligned beliefs with us, so I | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> want to make sure any concerns are addressed personally. | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Thanks so much! | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An inlaid GNOME logo https://t.co/vrodL9rLu6 | Jul 24 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://people.gnome.org/~federico/news-2015-07.html#inlaid-gnome-4 ) | Jul 24 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xs7 | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/4nnf1SEarT | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xs8 | Jul 24 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/iuTFK9bEVC | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xsa | Jul 24 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/UaHKI92U5g | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xv0 | Jul 24 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/9o76szWoEa | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xv1 | Jul 24 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Where AMD's Catalyst Driver Does The Best On | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux http://t.co/JGNpLtvUjM (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7xv8 | Jul 24 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Where AMD's Catalyst Driver Does The Best On Linux - Phoronix | Jul 24 22:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics | Jul 24 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Better For Skylake | Jul 24 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/z6DlMg2OkN (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 23:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements, Better For Skylake - Phoronix | Jul 24 23:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements,...' | Jul 24 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/624701058229665793 https://twitter.com/xavierhmaillard/status/624702112778309632 | Jul 24 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Response to #ukipo consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement https://t.co/XjYyMqYdnI crazy stuff! | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Response to IPO consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xavierhmaillard: @schestowitz thanks for sharing! I've highlighted you on my @RebelMouse http://t.co/xWvbOzfzoi | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rebelmouse.com | xavie | Jul 24 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ShShamilton57/status/624706594358493184 | Jul 24 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ShShamilton57: @schestowitz This one is easy. All you have to do is be a racist who thinks that all humans not like you are subhuman. So called Christians! | Jul 24 23:31 | |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: I made no such reference | Jul 25 08:47 |
| schestowitz | maybe I quoted something | Jul 25 08:47 |
| schestowitz | likely Cronos regarding his country, Mexico | Jul 25 08:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381235 | Jul 25 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even people inside #microsoft tell me that #vista10 is not ready. This is going to hurt. http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/vista-10-will-definitely-fail/ | Jul 25 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Their partners use GNU/Linux for XKeyscore. You have to wonder how the folks at Microsoft get anything done if they are using any version of Vista." | Jul 25 08:47 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I will not say Windows 10 will definitely fail. | Jul 25 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Run Out of Attempts and Vista 10 Will Definitely Fail | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7lf2 ] | Jul 25 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | what would you say? | Jul 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz | in revenue terms, it's not looking good | Jul 25 08:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6383685 | Jul 25 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Response to #ukipo consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-ipo-consultation-on-raising-jail-sentences-for-online-infringement crazy stuff! | Jul 25 08:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 25 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Response to IPO consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement [ http://ur1.ca/n83hx ] | Jul 25 08:49 | |
| schestowitz | IPO has stressed that the proposals would be targeted to ensure that only criminals who cause intentional serious harm are targeted | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | This is the frightening thing about UK law - it is openly discriminatory and creates, intentionally, legal uncertainties. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Thus it is still illegal to take photos of public buildings such as train stations, for security reasons, but it is “tolerated” after public protest and ridicule. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | So if the cops like your face, you can do something, but if they don’t, you end up in prison. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 25 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Laws of the land by deterrence, like in Horrible Singapore | Jul 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Windows 10 due to the fact forced upgrade from Windows 7 and 8.1 will get market share. Ok maybe not profit for Microsoft | Jul 25 08:49 |
| cubexyz | it's the beginning of the end | Jul 25 08:49 |
| cubexyz | chromeboxes/books in many computer stores | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | By the way things at looking the release after Windows 10 will be facing off against Linux with Wayland so able to tick more of the security boxes. | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Even chromebooks when they start running wayland will tick more security boxs. | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes looks like the beginning of the end is very correct. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: with luck and careful management Microsoft might be able to turn the train wreck of Windows 10 around. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| oiaohm | Free upgrade ot Windows 10 does in fact help Microsoft bottom line. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Not requiring as many staff to perform OS mantaince. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Think about it Microsoft has to have a team doing Windows 8.1 updates and Windows 7 updates at the moment validating they have not busted anything. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Then also a team doing XP updates because governments and the like have not moved. | Jul 25 08:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: all those teams are costs. | Jul 25 08:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17/17.1 KDE and Xfce Users Can Now | Jul 25 09:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines We need the power of corporates, says OpenStack | Jul 25 09:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We need the power of corporates, says OpenStack exec | Tux Machines | Jul 25 09:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Arrives in A Coruña for Akademy | KDE.news | Jul 25 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Full-Featured Mir 0.14 Update Finally Lands in | Jul 25 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Full-Featured Mir 0.14 Update Finally Lands in Ubuntu Touch, Notes App Updated - Softpedia | Jul 25 10:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6384833 | Jul 25 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Fedora 23 development is well underway. Last week, Fedora 23 branched from Rawhide, so that we can focus" http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-07-21/ #fedora | Jul 25 10:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fun Open Source Games and Apps: 112 Top Picks | Jul 25 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Fun Open Source Games and Apps: 112 Top Picks - Datamation | Jul 25 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash | Jul 25 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash Converters • The Register | Jul 25 10:35 | |
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| msb_ | . | Jul 25 10:41 |
| msb_ | There is a flap going on on some of my mailing lists about a (relatively) new cure for cancer and autism, banned by the US govt, and doctors who used it being killed! | Jul 25 10:41 |
| msb_ | http://tatoott1009.com/2015/07/23/explosive-the-real-reason-holistic-doctors-are-being-killed-and-vanishing/ | Jul 25 10:42 |
| msb_ | No bot? | Jul 25 10:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that seams just like a fake news site. | Jul 25 10:44 |
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| msb_ | There's no way to tell that quickly. Lots of weird things are happening in the world. | Jul 25 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With | Jul 25 10:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Jul 25 10:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @LukeVizzicks favourited 'The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash...' | Jul 25 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With Rackspace for OpenStack | Techrights | Jul 25 10:45 | |
| msb_ | Here's a video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALgIHETMDU | Jul 25 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Explosive: The real reason Holistic Doctors are being killed and vanishing! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n84tp ] | Jul 25 10:46 | |
| oiaohm | The problem I have even if a video exists that does not make it exactly true. | Jul 25 10:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/29/anti-vaccine-doctor-behind-dangerous-autism-therapy-found-dead-family-cries-foul/ | Jul 25 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Anti-vaccine doctor behind ‘dangerous’ autism therapy found dead. Family cries foul. - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/n84ud ] | Jul 25 10:48 | |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Of course. I didn't say it did. | Jul 25 10:49 |
| msb_ | I'm not vouching for this, just forwarding it. | Jul 25 10:50 |
| oiaohm | I grew up in an area with Australian bat lyssavirus being anti vaccination is fatal as the only cure to lyssavirus is rabies vaccine. | Jul 25 10:51 |
| oiaohm | So any doctor claiming anti vaccination I really do question how much medical study they have in fact done. | Jul 25 10:53 |
| oiaohm | A doctor demarding better controls on vaccination that is a sane medical choice. | Jul 25 10:53 |
| msb_ | Adequate Vitamin C seems to cure all virus infections. Even rabies (as tested on animals). | Jul 25 10:54 |
| oiaohm | Not Bat lyssavirus carrier bats eat fruit in huge volumes. | Jul 25 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Incrased Vitamin C dosage may see person dead sooner. | Jul 25 10:55 |
| msb_ | Here's the wiki page on GC-MAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gc-MAF | Jul 25 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gc-MAF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 25 10:56 | |
| oiaohm | any protein based treatment has to be handle very careful. | Jul 25 10:58 |
| oiaohm | I have mafans this is where my body does not make a particular protein. | Jul 25 10:58 |
| oiaohm | I cannot be given the protein to treat my condition as that would be providing it in a unregulated way. | Jul 25 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Leading to major worse issues than not being treated at all. So I have a very good understanding of the risks with any of the protein treatments. | Jul 25 10:59 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so doctors and mental unstablity could have come from playing with Gc-MAF | Jul 25 11:01 |
| msb_ | Here's a report of vit. C used to treat rabies. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Note I said Australian bat lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | vit C controls normal rabies to a point. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Australian bat Lyssavirus you put it replication into overdrive. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| oiaohm | So 30 days to 1 | Jul 25 11:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: It a illness without only 1 counter. | Jul 25 11:03 |
| msb_ | But that test was done with a C dosage of only about 15g/day for an adult human. The correct dose would be 10 to 20 times that much. | Jul 25 11:03 |
| oiaohm | The disease I mentioned is not rabies but a releation. | Jul 25 11:04 |
| msb_ | What is it that puts lyssavirus into replication? | Jul 25 11:04 |
| oiaohm | The normal rabies vaccine happens to work. | Jul 25 11:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: when lyssavirus is replicating it consuming all the vitime c and other items it can get it mits on. | Jul 25 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Australian bat lyssavirus is nasty because not only are you getting a lot of the symtompts of rabies you are also dieing of scurvy. | Jul 25 11:05 |
| msb_ | All viral infections deplete vitamin C, because C gets used up restoring the substance that white cells use for fighting viruses. | Jul 25 11:06 |
| msb_ | NADPH | Jul 25 11:06 |
| oiaohm | The virus itself is using vitamin c in the case of Australian bat lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:06 |
| msb_ | To fight a virus with C you have to give it faster than the white cells use it up. | Jul 25 11:06 |
| msb_ | please give a reference. | Jul 25 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Its in the cisro paper on it. | Jul 25 11:07 |
| msb_ | please give a reference. | Jul 25 11:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telephony | Jul 25 11:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telephony Improvements, Wi-Fi Hotspot, APN Editor | Tux Machines | Jul 25 11:08 | |
| msb_ | If C decreases during a lyssavirus infection, that's explainable by the body using it up to restore NADPH. | Jul 25 11:08 |
| msb_ | If you have a reference that says the virus itself destroys C, please give it. | Jul 25 11:09 |
| oiaohm | http://conditions.health.qld.gov.au/HealthConditions/2/Infections-Parasites/41/Viral-Infections/979/Australian-Bat-Lyssavirus I can find this one but the one that says it is a cisro virus reseach paper. | Jul 25 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-conditions.health.qld.gov.au | Australian Bat Lyssavirus [ http://ur1.ca/n8525 ] | Jul 25 11:09 | |
| msb_ | C goes extremely low during an ebola infection. | Jul 25 11:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the protines that make up bat lyssavirus transport shell include C | Jul 25 11:10 |
| msb_ | How does the paper prove that the virus itself destroys C, rather than C being used up by white cells. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | Basically you need to program the body to take it out before it over runs the system. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: disasmbling the virus seeing what is making it up. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | And trying to work out why it was so fatal. | Jul 25 11:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically bat lyssavirus has a method for stopping your white cells without attacking them. Simply consume the materials they need. | Jul 25 11:16 |
| oiaohm | So it it has a true point of no return once you are infected past a particular point you are dead. | Jul 25 11:17 |
| msb_ | Here is a pdf from CSIRO: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=NB07050.pdf | Jul 25 11:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is general CSIRO not CSIRO virus research lab. | Jul 25 11:18 |
| msb_ | Well, if you know a better one, please tell us. | Jul 25 11:19 |
| msb_ | Note spelling is CSIRO not CISRO | Jul 25 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Australian Animal Health Laboratory in Geelong, Victoria is where you are looking for papers from. Problem is I might have read this papper while I was inside aarnet | Jul 25 11:22 |
| msb_ | I am just looking on advanced google. | Jul 25 11:23 |
| oiaohm | https://www.aarnet.edu.au/ is a network between univeristeies and research areas in Australia. | Jul 25 11:24 |
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| oiaohm | Not everything hosted there is exposed on internet and shows up in google. Yes there is an aarnet search engine. | Jul 25 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Being the exact contruction paper I would suspect its not on the internet msb_ | Jul 25 11:25 |
| oiaohm | Good bit about bat lyssavirus as long as you get shot soon after infection you will be fine. | Jul 25 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Human body is very impression when it know what it is meant to be killing. | Jul 25 11:27 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Even I can receive aarnet, but I don't know how to search on it. | Jul 25 11:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: sections of aarnet are private cloud groups. | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | Ie members only access | Jul 25 11:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please search on aarnet for --- vitamin C and bat-lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | I don't have a login from where I am. | Jul 25 11:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please search on aarnet for --- vitamin-C and bat-lyssavirus | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | since I am not in the reseach program on that at the moment. | Jul 25 11:30 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a lot of information on viruses that USA, Australia.... every one else keep secured on the fear that someone might use the data to make a super virus. | Jul 25 11:32 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: It would help for those who are anti-vacciune if they could see some of it censored removing key details. | Jul 25 11:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: key details being absolutely exact contruction. | Jul 25 11:34 |
| msb_ | Oops looks like I did not give the url of the article about C greatly increasing rabies survival at 15g/day human dose, when the correct dose would be 150g/day. | Jul 25 11:35 |
| msb_ | http://injectablevitaminc.com/images/Ch23.pdf | Jul 25 11:35 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I remember the difference because doing the collection of samples we were told not to incrase C intake. | Jul 25 11:36 |
| oiaohm | And not to follow rabies instructions. | Jul 25 11:36 |
| msb_ | I wish you could find that info, because it is unique among all viruses. | Jul 25 11:37 |
| oiaohm | I can tell you it not unique there are a few other Australian viruses with the same warning. Unique to Australia | Jul 25 11:37 |
| msb_ | Please give a ref to any of them! | Jul 25 11:39 |
| oiaohm | They all have a commonality of being bat carried diseases in Australia. | Jul 25 11:39 |
| oiaohm | The make details of them would all be in the same cloud section. | Jul 25 11:40 |
| msb_ | Not being in Oz, I would not take a vaccine for any common virus infection. | Jul 25 11:42 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, thanks for the reference re Banana republics | Jul 25 11:42 |
| msb_ | I know personally that C works great for flu, colds, and measles. | Jul 25 11:42 |
| msb_ | Plus there are refs for polio and many other viruses. | Jul 25 11:43 |
| msb_ | Whereas vaccines can cause terrible harm to a few people. | Jul 25 11:43 |
| oiaohm | http://www.malariaworld.org/blog/vitamin-c-and-malaria-beware | Jul 25 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.malariaworld.org | Vitamin C and malaria: beware! | MalariaWorld [ http://ur1.ca/n85ei ] | Jul 25 11:44 | |
| msb_ | Antibacterial vaccines I might take. | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Also msb_ you don't live where you have malaria | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Because vitamin c also send malaria into overdrive. | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | This is the catch Vitamin C for lots of viruses help the body defeat it.(yes there are some exceptions) There are a lot of other infections where Vitamin C helps the infection. | Jul 25 11:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes classic example of too much of a good thing can be extreamly bad for you. | Jul 25 11:47 |
| oiaohm | So yes the recommendation to take C without understanding what the person has could be just as harmful as giving someone a vaccine without checking compadiblity first. | Jul 25 11:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I am against the random injecting of vaccines. But I am not against vaccines being used with proper compadiblity checking. | Jul 25 11:49 |
| msb_ | Apparently C causes increased iron intake which causes increased red blood cell production. Since malaria parsites live and multiply in RBCs in one stage of their life cycle, C increases malaria replication. | Jul 25 11:52 |
| oiaohm | I wish I could find the one with the flesh eating bacteria and possitive boost by vit C | Jul 25 11:53 |
| oiaohm | boost to the bacteria not the human | Jul 25 11:54 |
| msb_ | OK that's _two_ diseases -- bat lyssavirus and malaria -- in which Vitamin C is harmful. But it is greatly beneficial in all other viral infections, and helpful in bacterial infections. | Jul 25 11:54 |
| msb_ | should have said increased iron uptake, not intake | Jul 25 11:55 |
| oiaohm | bacterial it can be helpful to the some bacteria infections. | Jul 25 11:56 |
| oiaohm | Most common it helpful to is the bacteria that causes gut issues that we use to take anti acids for before we found it was a bacteria. | Jul 25 11:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is the thing taking anything outside moderation has risks. | Jul 25 11:57 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember infections like flesheaters this include the gut one I cannot remember it name the human immune system is not good at dealling with. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | Animals other than apes and guinea pigs produce up to 70grams/day of vitamin C per 150lbs body weight if they have a severe viral disease. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | So doses of 100grams/day of C are within moderation. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | for an adult human | Jul 25 11:59 |
| oiaohm | As long as you are not getting it by other sources. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | 100grams would be your total intack limit. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| msb_ | It's impossible to get 100g/day of C from food | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Not impossible. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | There are a few fruits that can do that. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Mind you todo it you would need most likely to eat http://www.fruitsinfo.com/miracle-fruit.php | Jul 25 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fruitsinfo.com | Miracle fruit | Synsepalum dulcificum | Miracle Berry, Health benefits, History of the fruit [ http://ur1.ca/n85lm ] | Jul 25 12:03 | |
| oiaohm | so you could ingore the acidity. | Jul 25 12:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Notice the "For diabetic patients" there. They can be consuming a lot higher acid levels than normal people do with nasty long term side effects. | Jul 25 12:06 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I guess you are now seeing where the problem comes in when you have Australians with all the strangeness in plants and creatures we have. | Jul 25 12:07 |
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| Illllllll | Hi | Jul 25 12:09 |
| XRevan86 | Illllllll: hi | Jul 25 12:09 |
| msb_ | There is nothing in the Miracle Fruit article saying that it has a lot of Vitamin C. Just that it fucks up your taste buds something awful so that everything tastes sweet for hours. | Jul 25 12:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Its not that it has a lot of Vitamin C it makes eating complete meals filled with stuff containing high vitamin C possible. | Jul 25 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Where other wise you would not be able todo it. | Jul 25 12:10 |
| Illllllll | Great site | Jul 25 12:10 |
| Illllllll | For the first time here | Jul 25 12:11 |
| XRevan86 | Illllllll: :) | Jul 25 12:12 |
| oiaohm | Illllllll: I guess there is no particular meaning to that name selection? | Jul 25 12:12 |
| msb_ | a 1-grain saccharin tablet in a cup of water with 5 grams of C tastes fine. Not too acidic. But you still have to rinse off your teeth afterward with an alkaline solution like a little MgCO3 in water. | Jul 25 12:13 |
| Illllllll | No meaning... | Jul 25 12:14 |
| msb_ | Illllllll: The actual proper topic is free (GPL) software like GNU/Linux and the disadvantages of software patents, DRM, and other corporate inhibitions to free computer use and info exchange. | Jul 25 12:15 |
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| msb_ | But sometimes people will post little-known info of particular value, in this case cures for diseases that the corporate media and govts try to suppress. | Jul 25 12:17 |
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| Illlllllll | I have a question about vit C.... | Jul 25 12:19 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: Here's the website associated with the channel: http://techrights.org Also tuxmachines.org | Jul 25 12:20 |
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| msb_ | Illlllllll: What is your question? | Jul 25 12:21 |
| Illlllllll | I saw you were chatting about C vit.. i know it is a tech channel | Jul 25 12:22 |
| Illlllllll | Ok, a question. What happens with vit C when you put it in a very hot tea? | Jul 25 12:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_ferdinandiana Remember I said Australian that 5 gram C you will get for sure from 200 grams of this. | Jul 25 12:24 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: and if the fruit is really good 10 g from 200 grams | Jul 25 12:24 |
| oiaohm | msb_: stuff you face full of them 100g in a day is more than possible. | Jul 25 12:24 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but to tollerate eating them in volume you need mircale berry. | Jul 25 12:26 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: C will absorb oxygen from the air or from liquids, and chemical reactions are speeded up by heat. So you should not put it in hot tea and leave it for a long time. | Jul 25 12:26 |
| msb_ | When C absorbs O2 it becomes permanently inactive. | Jul 25 12:27 |
| Illlllllll | Ok. So heating dos it to C vit? How long does it take? A minute? Seconds...? | Jul 25 12:28 |
| Illlllllll | Let me say, put 2000mg C vit in a hot tea. | Jul 25 12:28 |
| Illlllllll | Will be there any C vit after 10 minutes? | Jul 25 12:29 |
| oiaohm | There is a lot of research on this. | Jul 25 12:29 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: I wouldn't leave it for more than a couple of minutes. | Jul 25 12:29 |
| oiaohm | The tea does not need to be that hot to destroy vit C. But vit C does not break down quickly no matter what. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Short very hot exposure is way better for vit C than long term at lower temp. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you would have to eat a pound of that fruit to get 25grams of C. That would probably give you screaming diarrhea. And you might need several times that much C to fight a serious virus. Best to get ascorbic acid powder in a jar. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| Illlllllll | i see.... good to know! Thanks... A sevond one: what happenes to vit C exposed directly to the sun? Sorry for questions.. | Jul 25 12:31 |
| oiaohm | The fact that vit C breaks down is a issue that people going into shops buying what is so called fresh fruit that has been frozen for years could in fact have no vit C left | Jul 25 12:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I grew up in a citrus area end up with bad diarrhea because you got into fruit too much as not exactly strange. | Jul 25 12:33 |
| msb_ | This company sells bulk ascorbic acid a couple times a year for about 10USD/lb. -- half price. http://purebulk.com/ Get on their mailing list. | Jul 25 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-purebulk.com | Pure Bulk, Inc - Dietary & Vitamin Supplements Online | Jul 25 12:33 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: I said 100 gram was possible by eating I did not say it was a wise thing todo. | Jul 25 12:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: 1K of vit C a day by just eating stuff is truly impossible. | Jul 25 12:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: also you have to remember having something pure is not exactly good if the body lacks the chemicals to process it properly. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| msb_ | For extremely dangerous viruses like ebola, one might want 500g/day of C as sodium ascorbate given intravenously. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and a few other things in the drip as well. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so that the C processes effectively. | Jul 25 12:37 |
| oiaohm | A drip will all the chemicals you body need to make anti-bodies would be such a useful thing. | Jul 25 12:37 |
| cubexyz | yeah it would be great if there was a food bar that had everything you need in it :) | Jul 25 12:38 |
| msb_ | I think one doctor adds glutathione. That may be necessary to enable C to regenerate NADP to NADPH. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Pizza comes pretty close. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember more vit C than you body can use your kiddneys will cop it. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | cop it? | Jul 25 12:39 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so no point curing the cold at the price of the kiddneys. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| oiaohm | msb_: high acidic in kiddneys scar them. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | more C than you need given orally is just not absorbed from the intestine, and causes diarrhea. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| oiaohm | That is given orally not by drip. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| msb_ | Thus you can adjust the oral dose by increasing until diarrhea occurs and then backing off a little. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Oral dosage of C has natural safe gards. | Jul 25 12:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically as soon as you go intranvenously you have to be a lot more careful you have bipassed a safetly system. | Jul 25 12:41 |
| msb_ | Maybe you can measure the redox potential of the urine and make sure it is not strongly reducing, indicating dumping of unused C. | Jul 25 12:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: due to bladder delay you could be looking at kiddey damage by the time that shows it. | Jul 25 12:43 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: can you give a ref on C causing kidney damage and how fast and in what dosage? | Jul 25 12:44 |
| msb_ | IV | Jul 25 12:44 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: acute renal failure is a documented side effect of too much C | Jul 25 12:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: even by oral. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | It's a shame Dr Robert Cathcart has passed. He as the expert on IV C. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Please give a ref. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | was | Jul 25 12:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the 6 sites so far are passworded. | Jul 25 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Cannot give my useal.s | Jul 25 12:47 |
| msb_ | Why would a webstie be passworded? | Jul 25 12:47 |
| oiaohm | msb_: medical journals and so on like like charging. | Jul 25 12:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/vitamin-c/safety/hrb-20060322 | Jul 25 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mayoclinic.org | Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) Safety - Mayo Clinic [ http://ur1.ca/n862x ] | Jul 25 12:48 | |
| oiaohm | Ok that one is open to public and does not mention it all. | Jul 25 12:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: kidney stones what is mentioned is nasty. --red blood cell destruction-- Yes absolute killer is mentioned when you are way over | Jul 25 12:50 |
| cubexyz | hack it | Jul 25 12:50 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically Vit C is not 100 percent safe. | Jul 25 12:50 |
| oiaohm | particularly if you put it in IV and don't supervise it very carefully. | Jul 25 12:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: without question badly managed Vit C usage is just as if not more dangours than vaccuines. | Jul 25 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Miss manage either you will kill a person. | Jul 25 12:53 |
| oiaohm | msb_: you know people die from drinking too much water without the matching ammount of salt. | Jul 25 12:53 |
| msb_ | I and tens of millions of others have taken 5-10 grams/day of C with no ill effects for decades. | Jul 25 12:53 |
| msb_ | That is the amount that healthy animals of human body weight make for themselves. | Jul 25 12:54 |
| msb_ | During a viral infection they make up to 70g/day. | Jul 25 12:54 |
| cubexyz | I think drinking too much water will actually dilute the blood | Jul 25 12:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but your 500g/day example would possibly kill person. | Jul 25 12:55 |
| msb_ | Not if the viral infection was so serious that that amount of C was being used up every day to reconstitute NADPH. | Jul 25 12:55 |
| cubexyz | hyponatremia is the medical term | Jul 25 12:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember when the virus starts being beaten the C consume rate will drop. | Jul 25 12:56 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, another example of mixing Latin and Greek :) | Jul 25 12:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and if you don't adjust at the right point say dead human. | Jul 25 12:56 |
| msb_ | Without adequate NADPH, the white cells can't fight a serious virus, and the person will definitely die. | Jul 25 12:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and too much C in body person will definitely die as well. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| oiaohm | so it a balance. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: People and doctors who use large doses of C orally and IV do NOT report any adverse effects. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| msb_ | If it's used for the duration of a serious viral infection. | Jul 25 12:57 |
| oiaohm | The key thing is if it stopped at the right point. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| oiaohm | The are record deaths where doctor made mistake. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| msb_ | What they report is that the person lived, which skeptics did not expect. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: with C? | Jul 25 12:58 |
| oiaohm | There are conrner reports where C dosages have killed. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| oiaohm | This is a side of the C use to treat viruses that is not talked about. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| oiaohm | That the C dosage must be stopped at the right point. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| oiaohm | If it high. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| msb_ | It should be tapered down as less is needed. | Jul 25 12:59 |
| oiaohm | Ideal would be something like a insulan pump design for C monitoring the blood level live. | Jul 25 13:00 |
| oiaohm | And auto cutting off. | Jul 25 13:00 |
| oiaohm | But a lot of current methods for virus treament that some of these doctors are using are really using russian rollette | Jul 25 13:01 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember you body fighting illness is not exactly predictable its like predicting the outcome of a battle field. | Jul 25 13:02 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Are you sure you know what you are talking about? I have read many articles on the usage of high-dose C, and none of them has mentioned it injuring the patient. | Jul 25 13:02 |
| msb_ | The important thing to remember is NEVER use systemd! | Jul 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I have looked up Coroners Reports on deaths. Something to remember when a doctor does get done for some strange non main stream stunt and it causes a death they get struck off. | Jul 25 13:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so you don't see papers normally from doctors who have caused deaths. | Jul 25 13:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the bad outcomes leading to Coroner reports says with vit C we need a lot more control for it to be safe. | Jul 25 13:06 |
| oiaohm | With the right investment vit C for viruses could be a safe thing. With current methods IV methods it been unsafe. | Jul 25 13:07 |
| msb_ | Mainstream medicine is run by big pharma companies that want to discourage the use of C in order to keep people sicker and sell more drugs. | Jul 25 13:07 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the system I am sitting on is running systemd without major trouble. | Jul 25 13:07 |
| msb_ | Yeah, it could burn your ass at any moment! | Jul 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: unlikely. | Jul 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: my system is more stable on systemd than it was under sysvinit. | Jul 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the other system here that is openrc is also quite good. | Jul 25 13:09 |
| oiaohm | the big discourage to using C is the death outcomes and the fact that no one has been putting up devices to prevent the error. | Jul 25 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Of course big pharma are not interesting in investing in developing those machines. | Jul 25 13:10 |
| msb_ | Unless the patient has severe kidney disease or is an oxalate stone-former, if they have a severe virus that could kill them they are in much more danger from the virus than from IV C. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: did you miss too much C destroys blood cells. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: particularly red ones. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so you cannot take a breath. | Jul 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | C not controlled properly is as dangerous if not more dangerous than the virus. | Jul 25 13:13 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: your worries are contrary to everyone's experience. | Jul 25 13:13 |
| oiaohm | Have you look for those that did not live in the Coroners Reports | Jul 25 13:14 |
| msb_ | But if you want to die from some hemorrhagic fever instead of taking enough C to kill it, then, well, good luck. | Jul 25 13:14 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I would pre not to have to gamble my life to take the C need to kill it. | Jul 25 13:15 |
| msb_ | If there were a significant number of coroner's reports indicating death by C, the drug companies and govt would use them to ban C. | Jul 25 13:15 |
| msb_ | or at least ban jars of bulk C powder. | Jul 25 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Its why any doctor using high dosage IV C is in frowned on as doing that is in fact forbin. | Jul 25 13:16 |
| msb_ | too many spelling errors | Jul 25 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Low doesage msb_ on the other hand is not becaus the documentation says it harmless. | Jul 25 13:17 |
| msb_ | you are not making sense | Jul 25 13:17 |
| msb_ | please check your spelling and grammar | Jul 25 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Vit C is not banned on supply because it documented safe in low usage. | Jul 25 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Vit C in high dosage IV is in fact forbid. The doctors using have caused death. | Jul 25 13:18 |
| msb_ | Then it could be banned in anything bigger than 50mg pills, which the FDA tries to do every decade or so. | Jul 25 13:19 |
| msb_ | But you can't give any refs. | Jul 25 13:19 |
| msb_ | If C caused many deaths, the sale of 1Kg jars would be banned. | Jul 25 13:20 |
| msb_ | Pharma would love that, because they could make more billions in profit from symptomatic cold and flu remedies. | Jul 25 13:21 |
| oiaohm | msb_: note what I said about body normal protection system. | Jul 25 13:22 |
| msb_ | But when the FDA tried to do that in the 1990s, a _Republican_ senator forced them to stop. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | eating the stuff the body only protection system kicked in before you get to blood destroying in most cases. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | So baning 1KG powerder is not the issue. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | its IV usage | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Where you have bipassed a natural safegaurd. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically when ever you by pass a natural safe guard with vititams you need to be very careful. | Jul 25 13:24 |
| msb_ | Apparently some doctors mix jars of sodium ascorbate with distilled water and inject that IV. Cathcart treated hundreds or thousands of people that way and was not struck off, so apparently he didn't kill anybody. | Jul 25 13:25 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague tho | Jul 25 13:26 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague theoretical principle which does is not relevant in practice. | Jul 25 13:26 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague theoretical principle which is not relevant in practice. | Jul 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Notice what you just said they are making it themselves. What level mix where they using. | Jul 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | If they were only really using a low level they may not have killed anyone and may still been inside the rules. | Jul 25 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Problem is will that be enough doesage to beat the illness you have msb_ | Jul 25 13:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: all the death reports have a few things in common. 1 IV usage. 2 blood level of what ever vititum that has a lethal side effect too high. | Jul 25 13:30 |
| msb_ | Here is Cathcart's website. Look it up yourself: https://web.archive.org/web/20130302070632/http://www.orthomed.com/ | Jul 25 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. [ http://ur1.ca/n86jx ] | Jul 25 13:30 | |
| oiaohm | vitamins sorry about recently my Konversation irc client had lost it spell check. | Jul 25 13:31 |
| oiaohm | As you can tell I need it. | Jul 25 13:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically we need better ways of giving vitamins by IV same way we need better ways to give insulin before Insulin Pumps. | Jul 25 13:36 |
| oiaohm | All the deaths due to Vitamin C IV usage you would assign to doctor error/lack of equipment todo it properly. | Jul 25 13:37 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: the same applies to vaccinations. Like you don't see a blood screen for compatibility before doctor injects a vaccine. Wrong process/lack of equipment equals death with medical. | Jul 25 13:40 |
| msb_ | The important number is the ratio of the probability of death from the virus, to the probability of death from Vitamin C. | Jul 25 13:40 |
| oiaohm | The right dosage is important to get the ratio of probability of death from the virus as low as possible and avoid the probability death from the Vitamin | Jul 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Its exactly the same as balancing a insulin dosage. | Jul 25 13:42 |
| msb_ | If you are bleeding from your eyes and every other opening of your body from Marburg or Ebola, or you are seizing or whatever from viral encephalitis, chances are the virus is far more dangerous than the IV C. | Jul 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if the dosage is too low its not going to be effective either remember that | Jul 25 13:43 |
| msb_ | I don't think people can be screened for vaccine danger. | Jul 25 13:43 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: so enough should be given so the symptoms recede. | Jul 25 13:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: again there is a delay between when body usage of C drops and symptons recede | Jul 25 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Monitoring the level in the blood is the only way. | Jul 25 13:44 |
| oiaohm | msb_: it is possible to screen for vaccine danger it expensive. | Jul 25 13:45 |
| msb_ | How? | Jul 25 13:45 |
| oiaohm | You take blood sample find the stemcells. convicne them to make all the different cell types give the white cells in the sample in the blood the vaccine and watch the outcome. | Jul 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Takes about 20 days per person currently. | Jul 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | And if you have not guessed doing that costs about 10 000 dollars a time. | Jul 25 13:47 |
| msb_ | Vaccines have many different routes of toxicity. Especially live ones. That test isn't going to cover them. | Jul 25 13:47 |
| oiaohm | No safe vaccines should be live | Jul 25 13:48 |
| oiaohm | If the vaccine is a live vaccine is not safe. DNA mutations mean anything could happen. | Jul 25 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Safe vaccines don't have many different routes of toxicity. Safe vaccine toxity is normally confusing the white cells to attack persons own cells. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| msb_ | More than that: As virions bud out of your cells they can incorporate cell membrane material, leading to autoimmune disease. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes autoimmune outcomes is what you are testing to make sure don't happen with safe vaccines. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| oiaohm | I do know the USA has at times use live vaccines. Live vaccines are forbin out right in Australia. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| msb_ | Viral vaccines also contain material from whatever tissue they were grown on, even if they are killed. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| oiaohm | That is still using a live vaccine. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| oiaohm | There is a different method to make a safe predictable vaccine. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| oiaohm | Add the dna of the segment of virus you need produced to tanks of bacteria and have them produce just that segment. | Jul 25 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically the same kinds of tanks we use to make insulin and other hormones in great volume. | Jul 25 13:54 |
| oiaohm | msb_: problem with using live virus and killing it is the fact it can break in different places every single time so be random-ally safe/unsafe. | Jul 25 13:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically there are vaccines and there are vaccines. Proper safe ones are produced by 1 very particular method. | Jul 25 13:56 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Feel free to inject whatever unknown biological products into your bloodstream that you want. Please read Cathcart's site to learn the reality of IV C therapy. I have other things to do now and can't spend any more time with your theoretical arguments. | Jul 25 13:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Please note I do agree with the problem of what a vaccuine being known. I am not exactly happy with that. | Jul 25 13:59 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I do understand that is possible to use them properly. And at that stage I don't know of a single country anywhere using them properly. | Jul 25 14:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: due to the fact I had to have particular vaccines to do some of the work I had to and I had the access rights to find out before it went in my arm I did find out. | Jul 25 14:02 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so I absolutely don't agree with the secret side of stuff being injected. | Jul 25 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dkavedk/status/624933544217968640 | Jul 25 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dkavedk: @schestowitz @gnutelephony - the electronic trust barrier, just what exactly is that again... | Jul 25 14:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624940713931841536 https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624941013061246976 | Jul 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz if people in Malaysia need unbiased news, they read the Straits Times pub. in Singapore who, in turn, read New Straits Times! | Jul 25 14:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz same with neighboring countries like Thailand. No censoring or holds barred for neighbors, censorship for stuff within. | Jul 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | Straits Times closely linked to government officials (see management), who are buddies with Malaysia. It's #singapore propaganda. | Jul 25 15:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624942628166049792 | Jul 25 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I know it's propaganda. That's why Singaporeans read New Straits Times to get dope on their country. Believe me, I lived there | Jul 25 15:05 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/624946517825179648 | Jul 25 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz A good article IMO. | Jul 25 15:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624947640200003585 | Jul 25 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz while not condoning current Tory govt., Thatcher or Singapore, I think western democracy is overrated. http://t.co/6Xm12C9OOz | Jul 25 15:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theatlantic.com | Lee Kuan Yew's Challenge to Democracy - The Atlantic | Jul 25 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | "freedom and democracy" is marketing (Bernays, PR) | Jul 25 15:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | How Edward Bernays hacked democracy - Truthloader - YouTube | Jul 25 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624947978072125441 | Jul 25 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and this. https://t.co/CKPn6jmptt | Jul 25 15:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foreignaffairs.com | A Conversation with Lee Kuan Yew | Foreign Affairs | Jul 25 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6382630 | Jul 25 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bssed on what I hear, #Purism (Librem) is "Pure PR" and RMS is going to publicly chastise them. Not sure if true, but seems likely. | Jul 25 15:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Ok, I see." | Jul 25 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to a person from the project yesterday, maybe they can reconcile it | Jul 25 15:55 |
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| oiaohm | http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html | Jul 25 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.streamingmedia.com | New Patent Pool Wants 0.5% Of Every Content Owner/Distributor's Gross Revenue For Higher Quality Video - Dan Rayburn - StreamingMediaBlog.com [ http://ur1.ca/n87u2 ] | Jul 25 16:02 | |
| oiaohm | Now that is up there. | Jul 25 16:02 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please tell me what is your native language and level of education? | Jul 25 16:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I am Australian so English is my native. I have a BA so UNI level. | Jul 25 16:11 |
| oiaohm | There is 1 major catch. | Jul 25 16:11 |
| oiaohm | I was deaf for the first 6 years of my life and had very bad dyslexia. | Jul 25 16:12 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: You're doing quite well! | Jul 25 16:13 |
| oiaohm | msb_: when I get annoyed I sometimes lose focus on language and the some of my major defects return. | Jul 25 16:13 |
| msb_ | This is very good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 16:14 |
| oiaohm | When I say very bad dyslexia I could not get 2 letter words right at first. | Jul 25 16:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes that is spelling a simple world like "to" only correct 50 percent of the time. | Jul 25 16:14 |
| msb_ | (bot is gone) How Edward Bernays hacked democracy - Truthloader | Jul 25 16:15 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I guess you were asking because my language was that bad you did not think I was native. | Jul 25 16:17 |
| msb_ | I was just curious. | Jul 25 16:17 |
| oiaohm | The really bad part is without a spell checker I cannot see when I am typing words wrong. It is completely insane a person next to me can ask me to spell the incorrect word and I spell out the correct word. | Jul 25 16:19 |
| oiaohm | It has to be the worst form of error. | Jul 25 16:19 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: Thanks for tell me before I was unreadable. It was a update that had turned off auto spell checking. | Jul 25 16:22 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Usually you were readable. It was just an occasional sentence I was unable to parse. | Jul 25 16:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: you now have a clue how much I am fixing all the time. | Jul 25 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm, msb_: What are you talking about? | Jul 25 16:24 |
| msb_ | So you read over and edit what you're going to post before you hit Enter? I do, and still make mistakes sometimes. | Jul 25 16:24 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Do you have scroll-back on your IRC client? | Jul 25 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I don't have IRC history. | Jul 25 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | (18:13:41) msb_: oiaohm: You're doing quite well! | Jul 25 16:26 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: we were chatting about different things I think an hour ago and I did not have spell checker on so msb_ saw my raw English that is horrible. | Jul 25 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | The first message I see. | Jul 25 16:26 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Can you turn history on? | Jul 25 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That would require me to set up a bouncer. | Jul 25 16:26 |
| msb_ | What is that? | Jul 25 16:26 |
| oiaohm | msb_: problem is even if I read over my line due to my Brain processing error it appears perfect to me. Yes I could have told a person next to be the correct spelling of every word and been 100 percent sure they were correct. | Jul 25 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: A daemon that sits in an IRC room and logs everything. | Jul 25 16:27 |
| msb_ | Konversation has history and logging. | Jul 25 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: You're from US, right? | Jul 25 16:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Australia | Jul 25 16:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Yes I am up late | Jul 25 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, I thought double-spacing after a dot is popular only in US. | Jul 25 16:28 |
| oiaohm | I did typing class in highschool if you did it prior to 1994 you lost marks for using only a single space. | Jul 25 16:29 |
| oiaohm | Australian double space after the . is a part give away of age. | Jul 25 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That practically means our heads are like ":-) (-:" | Jul 25 16:29 |
| msb_ | I think it's a good idea because period and comma may be difficult to tell apart. | Jul 25 16:30 |
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| XRevan86 | msb_: No they're not. | Jul 25 16:30 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: depends on the typewriter | Jul 25 16:31 |
| msb_ | To me they sometimes are. | Jul 25 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's what large letters are for. | Jul 25 16:31 |
| oiaohm | Worn typewriters with the old spinning wheels the difference between a full stop and a comma could be nothing. | Jul 25 16:31 |
| oiaohm | Why the hook off the comma use to break off. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | You. Know. These. Are. Not. Commas, even if you mess with your fonts. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: We don't use typewriters you know. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| XRevan86 | Typewritery things are not required therefore. | Jul 25 16:32 |
| msb_ | You are not the boss of me! | Jul 25 16:33 |
| msb_ | 8^) | Jul 25 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I expect to be the boss if I'm the voice of reason :). | Jul 25 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | Am I? | Jul 25 16:34 |
| msb_ | Much of the time. | Jul 25 16:34 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: do have a daisy wheel printer they are also typewriters. They are used when you need to print a document using 8 levels of carbon transfer | Jul 25 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Three spaces now? :) | Jul 25 16:36 |
| msb_ | But the essential change in social evolution is not having bosses. People do as they please as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. | Jul 25 16:36 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: typo | Jul 25 16:36 |
| msb_ | "xrevan" is Russian for "Mr. Picky" | Jul 25 16:37 |
| oiaohm | Its also like you can still buy dot matrix printers new as well. | Jul 25 16:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes different legal documents required the usage of carbon/what ever that purple thing is transfers. | Jul 25 16:38 |
| msb_ | For any non-scrollers among us, this is a great video about Bernays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 16:41 |
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| oiaohm | http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html | Jul 25 16:41 |
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| oiaohm | This is nasty patent pool abuse. | Jul 25 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | > Yes different legal documents required the usage of carbon/what ever that purple thing is transfers | Jul 25 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: What do you mean? | Jul 25 16:42 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: you know what you seen in invoice books for hand written where you see the transfer paper. | Jul 25 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: ah | Jul 25 16:43 |
| msb_ | carbon paper | Jul 25 16:44 |
| oiaohm | There are different legal documents due to regulation stupidity where the copy must be produced at the exact same time as the original or its not valid. | Jul 25 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fimg-fotki.yandex.ru%2Fget%2F6107%2F109183592.a%2F0_7ef9f_b5bef254_XL.jpg&sp=62e119822eda7ff0b5fc3d2917dd55dd | Jul 25 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | this thing? | Jul 25 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | It's called "copying paper" in Russian :). | Jul 25 16:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: that is carbon paper. We call it carbon because that one can be undo with a pencil eraser. The purple form is a ink. | Jul 25 16:46 |
| oiaohm | Basically you have two forms of copying paper XRevan86 | Jul 25 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I had no idea. | Jul 25 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Yes regulations at times state what one you are meant to use. | Jul 25 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Use the wrong one start again. | Jul 25 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not sure it's possible to buy it in Russia now. | Jul 25 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | on a market | Jul 25 16:48 |
| oiaohm | I would guess Russia has no regulations requiring. | Jul 25 16:50 |
| oiaohm | I can buy both here from any newsagent. | Jul 25 16:51 |
| oiaohm | But the price suxs. $112.09 for 100 sheets. | Jul 25 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I've checked it out on market.yandex.ru | Jul 25 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | 100 sheets of carbon space from "OfficeSpace": 155 RUB | Jul 25 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | dollar is now 58 RUB | Jul 25 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | oops, vice-versa | Jul 25 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | $3 | Jul 25 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Seriously, 50 times overpricing. | Jul 25 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Now I am feeling so ripped off its not funny. | Jul 25 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | 500 sheets of Xerox carbon paper: 2383 RUB | Jul 25 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | $41 | Jul 25 16:56 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Why don't you buy it from sites like aliexpress? | Jul 25 16:57 |
| msb_ | Originally it had actual carbon on it. | Jul 25 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | and buy a OnePlus One from change | Jul 25 16:58 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Lazyiness and time mostly. | Jul 25 16:59 |
| msb_ | Regarding that video, there _are_ "death panels" in Medicare. Maybe not for individual people. But they make policies such as they won't pay for cancer treatment if the person is beyond a certain age, because it's likely that they will die soon anyway. | Jul 25 17:00 |
| oiaohm | But by the price difference I am serousally going to bite the bullet and have a stock pile. | Jul 25 17:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: with different cancers in Australia we are having vaccines to them. | Jul 25 17:02 |
| oiaohm | msb_: ie custom per person vaccines. Turning out more cost effective. | Jul 25 17:02 |
| msb_ | Of course the govt still makes some good alternative cancer treatments illegal. But that just teaches people that the govt is a bunch of thugs. | Jul 25 17:02 |
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| XRevan86 | oiaohm: It's incredible that you can even afford it. | Jul 25 17:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: your usa right? | Jul 25 17:03 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: How do they make a vaccine against a tumor? | Jul 25 17:03 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: PBS what is base medical Australia is paying for it. | Jul 25 17:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: cancer is normally mutations so if the mutations case caused the caccer cells to have unique cell surface markers you are in business. | Jul 25 17:04 |
| oiaohm | Just program the body own system to go after that. | Jul 25 17:05 |
| oiaohm | See I types cancer correct once then managed to type caccer instead. | Jul 25 17:05 |
| msb_ | So they just fractionate some of the tumor and separate out the surface antigens? | Jul 25 17:05 |
| msb_ | ...to make the vaccine? | Jul 25 17:06 |
| oiaohm | msb_: zero radiation zero expensive drugs and once body is programed to target the cancer it will keep on doing it for at least 8 years. | Jul 25 17:07 |
| msb_ | How much does it cost to make the vaccine? | Jul 25 17:07 |
| msb_ | What is the percentage effectiveness? | Jul 25 17:07 |
| oiaohm | Little more complex. | Jul 25 17:08 |
| oiaohm | Seperate out the surface antigens bind those to something the body will take as requiring destruction. | Jul 25 17:08 |
| msb_ | Anyhow this stuff is very cheap -- buy it at the healthfood store, or get DCA (illegally) via the Web: http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/ | Jul 25 17:09 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: when it can be done 100 percent peffectiveness. Cost is 20 000 dollars a turn but that is a lot cheaper than radiation treatment. | Jul 25 17:09 |
| oiaohm | I am hating self right now. | Jul 25 17:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: note not everyone with cancer has multations that alter cell surfaces. | Jul 25 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: You know what's my biggest question around cancer? | Jul 25 17:10 |
| msb_ | I am loving you. You just told me about an anticancer technique I never heard of before! | Jul 25 17:10 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: I have to ask? | Jul 25 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's a rare disease from my point of view (in Russia?) but from your words it's so freaky common. | Jul 25 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | why's that? | Jul 25 17:12 |
| msb_ | Borscht! It's why Russians live into their hundreds. Also sour cream. | Jul 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | What's sour cream? | Jul 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, smetana | Jul 25 17:13 |
| msb_ | Like yogurt but with more fat. | Jul 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's not even close to a yogurt. | Jul 25 17:14 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: most common cancer in Australia is sun cancers. | Jul 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | What's a borsh without smetana? | Jul 25 17:14 |
| oiaohm | I guess russias don't get themselves sun burnt as much. | Jul 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yeah, especially in this part :). | Jul 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I mean, in Leningrad. | Jul 25 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | * St. Petersburg | Jul 25 17:15 |
| oiaohm | That would be one of the big differences. | Jul 25 17:16 |
| oiaohm | The problem is if you do get a sun caused cancer it does not have to stay where it formed so can appear in other parts of body. | Jul 25 17:16 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: I knew it. You made that up. Bedrich Smetana is a Czech music composer from the 1800s. | Jul 25 17:17 |
| oiaohm | So a percentage of all diagnosed cancers no matter what organs they are found in are sun caused. | Jul 25 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: You cracked me up :D | Jul 25 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Lovely_borshch.jpg | Jul 25 17:18 |
| msb_ | 8^) | Jul 25 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | What a lovely… no, this is not lovely. | Jul 25 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | Borsh is not enough but smetana is quite a lot. | Jul 25 17:19 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: also a percentage of cancers are virus caused. So some countries has lower rates of particular viruses so lower rates of those cancers. | Jul 25 17:19 |
| oiaohm | Finally what you eat is a factor XRevan86 | Jul 25 17:20 |
| oiaohm | Like huge ammounts of deep fried stuff or other ways of horibally burning food is not good either. | Jul 25 17:20 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so each country should have a different cancer rate pattern. | Jul 25 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yeah, that was never popular in Russia. | Jul 25 17:21 |
| msb_ | GMO and fluoride both cause cancer. | Jul 25 17:21 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: No fried chicken? | Jul 25 17:22 |
| oiaohm | msb_: missed Fluoride mostly because Russia water is normaly high on that. | Jul 25 17:22 |
| oiaohm | Pestisides and GMO can be problems as well. | Jul 25 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: On a pan in the oven, yes. | Jul 25 17:23 |
| msb_ | baked | Jul 25 17:23 |
| msb_ | and breaded | Jul 25 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I call it "fried" :) | Jul 25 17:23 |
| msb_ | But not an aluminum pan -- causes Alzheimer's. | Jul 25 17:24 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: sorry oven baked we don't call fried. | Jul 25 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: cast iron | Jul 25 17:24 |
| oiaohm | fried is the hot oil dip cooking method. | Jul 25 17:24 |
| msb_ | excellent! | Jul 25 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: An old good Soviet cast iron pan :). | Jul 25 17:25 |
| msb_ | I get canned salmon caught in Alaska, but I have to test it with a Geiger counter! | Jul 25 17:25 |
| oiaohm | Basically fried the highly not healthy method. | Jul 25 17:25 |
| oiaohm | msb_: techically aluminum does not cause Alzheimers but a condition that looks like it that is reversable. | Jul 25 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I for one eat "fried" (oven baked?) meal relatively rarely. | Jul 25 17:26 |
| msb_ | In the 80s or 90s, people were dialyzed against tapwater containing Al. The resulting Alzheimer's was not reversible. | Jul 25 17:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: there are particular things you have to add what you eat to allow you body to correctly remove Al | Jul 25 17:29 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: OK, what _do_ you do to your meat? | Jul 25 17:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: what? | Jul 25 17:29 |
| oiaohm | msb_: normal Alzheimers is a brain plaquing issue cause by a protein gone wrong. There as been some progress on getting the body to deal with that as well. | Jul 25 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Well, either "oven bake" or a soup. | Jul 25 17:30 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically research has moved on. | Jul 25 17:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: moved on? | Jul 25 17:31 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Is Alz a prion disease? | Jul 25 17:32 |
| msb_ | contagious protein? | Jul 25 17:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: As far as we know not contagious requires you DNA to produce a protein wrong. If it is contagious is a virus altering dna. | Jul 25 17:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: early Alzheimers reserach mixed Al posioned with damaged protein. | Jul 25 17:34 |
| msb_ | Pretty frequent for a mutation. Could it be epigenetic? | Jul 25 17:34 |
| msb_ | A virus would explain it too. | Jul 25 17:35 |
| oiaohm | That we know what causes the brain failure we don't know why it as common. | Jul 25 17:35 |
| msb_ | All my cats died of cancer. It must have been a virus. | Jul 25 17:35 |
| oiaohm | There is a virus in cats that causes cancer. | Jul 25 17:36 |
| oiaohm | Australia has researched it as a possiblity to kill off ferial cats. | Jul 25 17:36 |
| msb_ | Wonderful. When they did that in Europe tens of millions died from the Black Plague, carried by rats. | Jul 25 17:37 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if they were the same blood line it could be genenic or other toxity in envornement. | Jul 25 17:38 |
| oiaohm | We have lizards in Australia meant to do the cat role. | Jul 25 17:38 |
| msb_ | 4 cats related, one not. | Jul 25 17:38 |
| oiaohm | msb_: by that I would be a little worried. | Jul 25 17:39 |
| msb_ | I don't have anymore cats. | Jul 25 17:39 |
| msb_ | Why do Aussies prefer lizards to cats? | Jul 25 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Good thing it never reached Russia. I have two cats. | Jul 25 17:40 |
| msb_ | My sister and mother have cats living a lot longer than mine did. No cancer. | Jul 25 17:41 |
| oiaohm | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-17/melanoma-vaccine-giving-cancer-victims-hope/5396594 msb_ cancer vacines in Australia are not a new thing. Problem has been getting effectiveness up to where it is now. Yes workiug out how to trick the body to attack cancer and not to be deciding to forget all the time | Jul 25 17:42 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: the lizards are the natives. Lot of the local wild life have trouble getting away from cats | Jul 25 17:43 |
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| msb_ | Cats are superior beings! | Jul 25 17:44 |
| schestowitz | meh | Jul 25 17:44 |
| oiaohm | I am not sure you would like a house cat after its been in australia for 4 generations. | Jul 25 17:44 |
| oiaohm | in the wild. | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | they help with nothing | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | cats are masters | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | in their own minds | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | dogs at least help with some stuff | Jul 25 17:45 |
| msb_ | cats kill rats. | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | mice maybe | Jul 25 17:45 |
| schestowitz | rats can be very big | Jul 25 17:46 |
| msb_ | need wolves | Jul 25 17:46 |
| msb_ | or elephants to stomp 'em | Jul 25 17:46 |
| msb_ | Are lizards fast enough to catch big rats? | Jul 25 17:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goanna O yep. no problems catching a big rat | Jul 25 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Goanna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 25 17:49 | |
| msb_ | What about Tasmanian Devils? When they spin fast enough they can make cone-shaped holes in trees! | Jul 25 17:49 |
| oiaohm | No Tasmanian Devils are nothing like the cartoon. | Jul 25 17:49 |
| oiaohm | Tasmanian devel jaw has crushing force greater than a gattor or croc | Jul 25 17:50 |
| msb_ | Goannas were mentioned in Crocodile Dundee. | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | [05:15] <amarsh04> schestowitz, was your reference to Banana Republic the UK as in the Boomtown Rats song or to Australia where the term had some use when Paul Keating was treasurer and later Prime Minister | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Did I say that? | Jul 25 17:51 |
| oiaohm | Tasmainian devils don't need to spin threw trees if they wish can bite their way threw trees. | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I quoted | Jul 25 17:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: normally of course Tasmainian devils don't like wood. | Jul 25 17:52 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Goannas are not as friendly as cats. They will if panics climb you with big nasty sharp claws. | Jul 25 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/peacecompassion/status/624990183830609920 | Jul 25 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peacecompassion: @ggreenwald Who's Eli Lake again? | Jul 25 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | Bloomberg's Islamophob and Russophob for over a year now | Jul 25 18:15 |
| msb_ | There is a very good movie shot in Australia about a truck driver and a serial killer. | Jul 25 18:22 |
| msb_ | And a young woman they meet. | Jul 25 18:23 |
| msb_ | The actress is tall, blonde and has 3 names. | Jul 25 18:24 |
| msb_ | Road Games 1981 Jamie Lee Curtis | Jul 25 18:27 |
| msb_ | rumor has it that she is an XY with Androgen Insensitivity | Jul 25 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | > Ahh, ok, well they have a valid concern over our well publicized and | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > discussed BIOS freedom status. It's a problem that all higher end | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > hardware has since 2005, but we're working to solve it! (Do you care to | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > I will begin to hang in #libreboot when I'm back off the road... | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | > Thanks so much for writing Roy. | Jul 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully gave a headsup before it's too late (negative press coverage) | Jul 25 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6386453 | Jul 25 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Orthogonal policy making. When the #law is written and reshaped independently from people's will and usually directly against their interest | Jul 25 21:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In August 2015, The Linux Mint Developers Will | Jul 25 21:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | In August 2015, The Linux Mint Developers Will Start Working At Linux Mint 17.3 | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Linux Mint 17.2 OEM And No Codecs Images Have Been Released | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 21:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/625046459642200064 | Jul 25 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz https://t.co/K9sgQ20HiO Managed to find it on #YouTube | Jul 25 21:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | HGUC 1/144 RX-78-2 GUNDAM PV(JPN Dub) - YouTube | Jul 25 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/P5W7moNgxa | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8arp | Jul 25 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/VhzCsgVgHb | Jul 25 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8arq | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Experience - Gallery | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2RCVnpcgqQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8ars | Jul 25 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 Desktop Experience - Gallery | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FDzkWrkL9p (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8art | Jul 25 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead | Tux Machines | Jul 25 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | BS or substantial? http://www.globalresearch.ca/chattanooga-shooter-linked-to-cia-fbi-asset-anwar-al-awlaki/5463949 | Jul 25 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Chattanooga Shooter Linked To CIA, FBI Asset Anwar Al-Awlaki | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/n8b26 ] | Jul 25 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HerterJochen followed @tuxmachines | Jul 25 22:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/VhzCsgVgHb' | Jul 25 22:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/the-building-thats-not-on-the-tourist-map/story-e6frfqb9-1227456727555 | Jul 25 22:51 |
| schestowitz | "I quickly snapped a shot. Later in my hotel room and on my computer, it only took minutes to find the iconic van Es shot. When I put my new shot alongside the old picture, sure enough, it was the same rooftop. Some of the cladding had changed over the past 40 years, but the balcony area gave it’s past away." | Jul 25 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | Saigon helicopter photo of Vietnam War rescue: CIA building not on tourist map [ http://ur1.ca/n8b57 ] | Jul 25 22:51 | |
| schestowitz | Grammar mistake | Jul 25 22:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/625060064332808192 | Jul 25 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz Shut down the CIA. | Jul 25 22:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First-Person Exploration Puzzler 'The Magic | Jul 19 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Circle' Released For Linux, Has Demo | Jul 19 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5ok0oUZCxU (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 19 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5uc6 | Jul 19 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | First-Person Exploration Puzzler 'The Magic Circle' Released For Linux, Has Demo | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 01:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV, like Google TV, still too ahead of | Jul 19 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | its time http://t.co/JtjjKafvzv | Jul 19 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android TV, like Google TV, still too ahead of its time - SlashGear | Jul 19 01:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) | Jul 19 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5uc8 | Jul 19 01:36 |
| msb__ | . | Jul 19 02:26 |
| msb__ | I was looking at a TV schedule with Firefox, and accidently got into a mode where the pageup/down keys switched tabs instead of scrolling. And I accidently went to a tv schedule tab that started talking about "celebrities" and how they were pregnant on set, as revealed by their instagram messages, etc. | Jul 19 02:28 |
| msb__ | I couldn't stop it from talking. I killed flash but that didn't help. I didn't know which of the tabs was talking. | Jul 19 02:28 |
| msb__ | It felt like I was schizophrenic and couldn't stop the voices in my head! | Jul 19 02:29 |
| msb__ | And what they were saying was for morons! | Jul 19 02:29 |
| msb__ | Finally I found the offensive tab and killed it, and the voices stopped. | Jul 19 02:30 |
| msb__ | If the govt kidnaps me because of my website and wants to torture me, all they have to do is tune in "Entertainment Tonite" or whatever that was. I'll confess to anything! | Jul 19 02:32 |
| msb__ | Yes, I dropped germ warfare on North Korea! I admit it! | Jul 19 02:33 |
| msb__ | Please, send me back to Room 101! | Jul 19 02:36 |
| msb__ | Put the rats back on me! | Jul 19 02:37 |
| msb__ | Just turn off that TV show!!! | Jul 19 02:37 |
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| msb__ | Man, it's a good thing I haven't taken any drugs! | Jul 19 02:38 |
| msb__ | Sorry, was that off-topic? I was using Linux... | Jul 19 02:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On | Jul 19 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, Some Thoughts https://t.co/O6sWFc5dAB | Jul 19 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 19 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v6a | Jul 19 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 03:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Feral Interactive look like they will soon be | Jul 19 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kings of the Linux porting business" | Jul 19 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cCJSSG62Pv (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 19 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v6c | Jul 19 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Feral Interactive Are Teasing Yet Another New Port | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 03:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to squeeze more battery life from your | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux laptop http://t.co/NelDCaNB0m | Jul 19 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorld | Jul 19 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcworld.com) | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8n | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released! | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lFCwKRngBt (blog.linuxmint.com) | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8o | Jul 19 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released! | Jul 19 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you'll see this year http://t.co/y7YNAbWrTD | Jul 19 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jul 19 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device you'll see this year | The Verge | Jul 19 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5v8p | Jul 19 03:42 |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/622673966788964352 | Jul 19 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@georgebaily: @schestowitz these look awesome and would be cool even if they didn't look so good... Wonder why the reviewer is so negative... | Jul 19 03:48 | |
| roy__ | Seems like most a branding exercise to me | Jul 19 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Jolla Introduces New Reference Designs And | Jul 19 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software To Fight Android | Jul 19 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CoznneKHQp (www.forbes.com) | Jul 19 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Jolla Introduces New Reference Designs And Software To Fight Android - Forbes | Jul 19 03:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5var | Jul 19 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, | Jul 19 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir | Jul 19 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vas | Jul 19 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - Softpedia | Jul 19 03:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CloudRouter 2.0 Hits Beta with OpenDaylight | Jul 19 03:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lithium and Fedora 22 http://t.co/fkIwYyvyA6 | Jul 19 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | CloudRouter 2.0 Hits Beta with Open Daylight Lithium and Fedora 22 | Jul 19 03:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com) | Jul 19 03:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Install Linux On http://t.co/vDHzcigdy6 | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.makeuseof.com) | Jul 19 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can Install Linux On | Jul 19 04:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vel | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hFUKLn38SQ (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vem | Jul 19 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait - Softpedia | Jul 19 04:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acceleration http://t.co/GBkH7yljxH | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware Acceleration | Tux Machines | Jul 19 04:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5ven | Jul 19 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 19 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 19 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YpAQVhUamo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vep | Jul 19 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Tux Machines | Jul 19 04:09 | |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Gatorau/status/622681767795929089 | Jul 19 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Gatorau: Because ethics. https://t.co/cWFQeKFuYK | Jul 19 04:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Torture approved: Why US psychological association's apology is not enough http://t.co/QPzQRzZMcB legal action needed, not early retirement | Jul 19 04:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux 4.2 Mainline Kernel From Ubuntu Is | Jul 19 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Finally Working Again http://t.co/zxvpCi78DX | Jul 19 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 19 04:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Linux 4.2 Mainline Kernel From Ubuntu Is Finally Working Again - Phoronix | Jul 19 04:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telegram App | Jul 19 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, New Thumbnailer | Jul 19 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/P6gCkR0IwI (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 04:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telegram App Improvements, New Thumbnailer - Softpedia | Jul 19 04:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 4 | Jul 19 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Adds Support for IBM POWER8 | Jul 19 04:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xcS504K0hs (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 04:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 4 Adds Support for IBM POWER8 - Softpedia | Jul 19 04:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari | Jul 19 04:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell | Jul 19 04:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/h4NnXdvc75 (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 19 04:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell - Phoronix | Jul 19 04:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly | Jul 19 04:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like a streaming hose of vid | Jul 19 04:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/N8fg7sPnvI (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jul 19 04:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5vod | Jul 19 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly like a streaming hose of vid • The Register | Jul 19 04:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622668913386590208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622669396964675584 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622670492969869312 | Jul 19 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts https://t.co/4nFSDkpL3G #games #gnu #linux | Jul 19 04:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 04:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Feral Interactive look like they will soon be kings of the Linux porting business" https://t.co/uCK9L1Vdu7 #gnu #linux | Jul 19 04:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feral Interactive Are Teasing Yet Another New Port | GamingOnLinux | Jul 19 04:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop http://t.co/GfPCgbiMhT #gnu #linux | Jul 19 04:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorld | Jul 19 04:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, | Jul 19 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir | Jul 19 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - Softpedia | Jul 19 05:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5w4p | Jul 19 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro | Jul 19 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Many New Features | Jul 19 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UXObR6b9NX (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 19 05:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features - Softpedia | Jul 19 05:53 | |
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| r_schestowitz | "Confusing trolls with astroturfers, perhaps intentionally? There are quite a few interests that don't want the topic of astroturfing to rise to visibility." http://yle.fi/uutiset/webmaster_claims_pro-russia_trolls_stalk_finlands_biggest_russian_forum/8165524 | Jul 19 11:24 |
| r_schestowitz | iophk | Jul 19 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Webmaster claims pro-Russia trolls stalk Finland's biggest Russian forum | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/n5yvj ] | Jul 19 11:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | when we do it, it's "warriors", then they do it, it's "trolls" | Jul 19 11:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware | Jul 19 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acceleration http://t.co/lJwrLLwyZ7 | Jul 19 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 19 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware Acceleration - Phoronix | Jul 19 11:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 19 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 19 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) | Jul 19 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n5zuw | Jul 19 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Alphr | Jul 19 13:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone...' | Jul 19 13:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this | Jul 19 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the future of phones? http://t.co/09u9qBmgY6 | Jul 19 15:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux Machines | Jul 19 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi | Jul 19 15:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Tux Machines | Jul 19 15:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oRbs2fCXHi (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n643k | Jul 19 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Tux Machines | Jul 19 19:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: is | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | this the future of phones? | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (via @tuxmachines) | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n643l | Jul 19 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4 | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n648y | Jul 19 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for Kit Kat | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/nqA5xtqvZZ | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6491 | Jul 19 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.2-rc3 http://t.co/kPEkIYcwOd | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6492 | Jul 19 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.2-rc3 | Tux Machines | Jul 19 20:11 | |
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| cubexyz | the tide as turned: | Jul 19 21:01 |
| cubexyz | an investor that put $100,000 into Microsoft stock 10 years ago would now have $69,000 | Jul 19 21:01 |
| amarsh04 | anyone familiar with KDE 4.X here? | Jul 19 21:48 |
| amarsh04 | fixed it, problem was that upgrading kde-window-manager had removed that functionality | Jul 19 22:11 |
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| cubexyz | why the heck is firefox using 100% cpu on wired.com | Jul 19 22:20 |
| cubexyz | java is off | Jul 19 22:20 |
| cubexyz | flash is off | Jul 19 22:20 |
| cubexyz | guess I'll try noscript | Jul 19 22:20 |
| cubexyz | such a crock | Jul 19 22:21 |
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| cubexyz | ok... better now | Jul 19 22:22 |
| cubexyz | it crap, but not as crap | Jul 19 22:22 |
| cubexyz | s/it/still/ | Jul 19 22:22 |
| amarsh04 | I sometimes have iceweasel hit peak cpu for a while | Jul 19 22:53 |
| amarsh04 | but that's with close to 1000 tabs open | Jul 19 22:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It | Jul 19 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Needs Testing http://t.co/nUsNwYWqAS | Jul 19 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n65w5 | Jul 19 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing | Tux Machines | Jul 19 23:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux | Jul 19 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/JezXShmLOl | Jul 19 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 19 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 19 23:16 | |
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| msb__ | cubexyz: For me, Firefox is running about 20% (of two cores) and goes to about 45% on wired.com, without shutting off anything. | Jul 19 23:47 |
| cubexyz | yeah, part of it is my old computer(s) | Jul 19 23:47 |
| msb__ | I've seen much worse websites. I think FF is being made more robust these days. | Jul 19 23:49 |
| cubexyz | noscript helps a lot | Jul 19 23:49 |
| msb__ | kills javascript? | Jul 19 23:50 |
| cubexyz | noscript can allow/forbid scripts | Jul 19 23:52 |
| cubexyz | process status can't really tell what firefox is doing | Jul 19 23:53 |
| msb__ | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/noscript/ | Jul 19 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | NoScript Security Suite :: Add-ons for Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/407bf ] | Jul 19 23:53 | |
| msb__ | Wow! I hope it doesn't block porn! | Jul 19 23:53 |
| cubexyz | uh, no comment :) | Jul 19 23:54 |
| cubexyz | I just don't want ads using up my CPU cycles | Jul 19 23:54 |
| cubexyz | or whatever it's doing | Jul 19 23:54 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: are you saying that FF can use cpu cycles that are not seen by ps? | Jul 19 23:55 |
| cubexyz | well not exactly... the command shown is always .../firefox | Jul 19 23:55 |
| cubexyz | so ps can't differentiate between firefox threads | Jul 19 23:56 |
| cubexyz | I could run firefox in gdb I suppose | Jul 19 23:58 |
| msb__ | And spend the rest of your life trying to figure out what it was telling you. | Jul 20 00:02 |
| cubexyz | that's the way it is | Jul 20 00:03 |
| msb__ | Just from looking at how many data files it has, I think it's very complex. | Jul 20 00:03 |
| cubexyz | mozilla is trying to get firefox to use less memory with it's memshrink project: | Jul 20 00:05 |
| cubexyz | 4.3 BSD Quasijarus UNIX | Jul 20 00:05 |
| cubexyz | Fri Jul 17 17:11:37 EST 2015 | Jul 20 00:05 |
| cubexyz | oops | Jul 20 00:05 |
| cubexyz | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink | Jul 20 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.mozilla.org | Performance/MemShrink - MozillaWiki [ http://ur1.ca/n66bz ] | Jul 20 00:06 | |
| msb__ | FF seems to be starting faster. I think it only loads content into tabs that are visible. | Jul 20 00:09 |
| cubexyz | msb__, did you know you can search klipper history? | Jul 20 00:22 |
| cubexyz | it's kind of a hidden thing... it works in KDE 3.5.10 and I assume trinity (probably 4+ as well) | Jul 20 00:22 |
| msb__ | No. Occasionally it will fail to copy and paste from one program to another. So I just do it again. | Jul 20 00:24 |
| msb__ | I have scripts that load klipper (I use the kde4 version), using qdbus. Very handy sometimes. | Jul 20 00:28 |
| msb__ | Previous versions of X had a program that could load the clipboard, but that went away. | Jul 20 00:29 |
| cubexyz | what? | Jul 20 00:29 |
| cubexyz | xclip? | Jul 20 00:29 |
| msb__ | sounds right but I don't think it works anymore | Jul 20 00:30 |
| msb__ | I can't find the old version. Guess I was peeved and deleted it, silly me. | Jul 20 00:33 |
| cubexyz | xclipboard is still part of the X Window System | Jul 20 00:34 |
| cubexyz | maybe the distro maintainers aren't including it these days | Jul 20 00:35 |
| cubexyz | there's really two clipboards | Jul 20 00:37 |
| msb__ | Anyhow, I have this script called "p" which loads the clipboard with the FQ path of the filename argument (you have to be in the directory the file is in). Then you can go to any other directory and cp or mv the file there. Working in mc this is all done with very few keystrokes. I call it textmode drag'n'drop. Use it many times every day. | Jul 20 00:37 |
| cubexyz | anything you highlight with the mouse should end up in the clipboard | Jul 20 00:38 |
| cubexyz | at least that's how konsole works | Jul 20 00:38 |
| msb__ | But it's too much work to do it with the mouse. I just have to type p alt-Enter with the cursor on the file in mc. Hands never leave the keyboard. No pointing and shooting. | Jul 20 00:40 |
| msb__ | This is in mc in a konsole. I have dozens of those. | Jul 20 00:41 |
| msb__ | Also, highlighting with the mouse wouldn't bring in the file's path. | Jul 20 00:42 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm having trouble visualizing what you're doing | Jul 20 00:45 |
| msb__ | I'm in mc inside of a konsole. I place mc's cursor on the file I want to operate on. I type p <space> <alt-enter> | Jul 20 00:46 |
| msb__ | That invokes the p script with the filename as its argument. | Jul 20 00:47 |
| msb__ | The p script gets the cwd, appends the filename to it, and sends that to another script that uses qdbut to put the FQ filename into the clipboard. | Jul 20 00:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I guess qdbut is a KDE 4 thing | Jul 20 00:50 |
| cubexyz | sounds interesting though | Jul 20 00:51 |
| msb__ | Then I go to some other konsole and type cp (or mv, or diff, etc) middle mouse button and the file is copied or moved, etc. | Jul 20 00:51 |
| msb__ | Opps qdbus, not but | Jul 20 00:51 |
| cubexyz | ah :) | Jul 20 00:51 |
| cubexyz | funny, I've been using KDE 3 a long time, and I just discovered the history search | Jul 20 00:53 |
| msb__ | looks like kde4 klipper's history is invoked when you right-click on its little notifier(?) in the panel | Jul 20 00:55 |
| cubexyz | I just start typing "books" or whatever and everthing that matches that pops up | Jul 20 00:56 |
| cubexyz | kind of neat | Jul 20 00:56 |
| msb__ | Where do you type that? | Jul 20 00:57 |
| cubexyz | you just click the klipper icon and start typing | Jul 20 00:57 |
| cubexyz | with the pointer on the klipper window | Jul 20 00:57 |
| msb__ | Yup, that works. | Jul 20 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for | Jul 20 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4 | Jul 20 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n66tc | Jul 20 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port for Kit Kat | Tux Machines | Jul 20 00:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @charles6816 followed @tuxmachines | Jul 20 01:00 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I'll send you the scripts for p and the ones it calls, but you'll probably have to tailor them to whatever systems you want to use them on. | Jul 20 01:00 |
| cubexyz | ok, thanks | Jul 20 01:00 |
| cubexyz | I am curious what you did | Jul 20 01:00 |
| msb__ | I don't have the old version using xclip but it's easy enough to substitute that. | Jul 20 01:01 |
| msb__ | wow, syfy channel is showing Sharktopus vs. Pteracuda, Sharktopus vs. Whalewolf, Piranhaconda, and Dinoshark! | Jul 20 01:06 |
| msb__ | Actually, that should be spelled "Syphy Channel". It also has "professional wrestling". | Jul 20 01:08 |
| cubexyz | uh | Jul 20 01:13 |
| cubexyz | is sharktopus a comedy or something? :) | Jul 20 01:14 |
| msb__ | It produced one good scifi movie many years ago -- Habitat 1997. | Jul 20 01:18 |
| msb__ | I've never seen sharktopus. Maybe it would be best described as a computer-graphics demo. | Jul 20 01:19 |
| cubexyz | did you hear what schestowitz heard from a M$ guy? | Jul 20 01:19 |
| cubexyz | that windows 10 crashes a lot | Jul 20 01:19 |
| msb__ | Wow! Who woulda thunk it! | Jul 20 01:20 |
| msb__ | Anyhow, I have Habitat on a DVD, but it's somewhere in seven huge boxes of them. | Jul 20 01:21 |
| cubexyz | another thing I noticed on a customers computer running win7 | Jul 20 01:22 |
| cubexyz | the GUI appeared to reset itself a lot | Jul 20 01:23 |
| cubexyz | like several times per hour | Jul 20 01:23 |
| cubexyz | it seemed really bad | Jul 20 01:23 |
| cubexyz | Xenix didn't have those problems (based on Unix) | Jul 20 01:24 |
| msb__ | See? GNU/Linux really is much better. Roy wasn | Jul 20 01:24 |
| msb__ | See? GNU/Linux really is much better. Roy wasn't just making that up! | Jul 20 01:25 |
| cubexyz | you can't argue with empirical evidence | Jul 20 01:25 |
| msb__ | After 20 years microshit still doesn't know how to make an OS. | Jul 20 01:26 |
| cubexyz | I thought they had improved with w2k being based on NT which was based on ideas from VMS/Cutler | Jul 20 01:29 |
| cubexyz | but win2k wasn't as good as Linux | Jul 20 01:30 |
| cubexyz | I can't say win7 was good with all the GUI resets | Jul 20 01:31 |
| cubexyz | worse than I thought really | Jul 20 01:32 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: ok, p files coming to you | Jul 20 01:35 |
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| msb__ | Best demo of all time! Hope the person who made it got a job at ILM, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4 | Jul 20 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | What's in the Box? - Test Film 2009 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n6794 ] | Jul 20 01:50 | |
| msb__ | OK here are the p files for everyone! Just put in a good word for me with the Nobel Prize Committee. http://cosmicpenguin.com/pfiles.zip | Jul 20 02:19 |
| msb__ | and the repetitive strain injury foundation | Jul 20 02:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How To Make Counter-Strike: Global Offensive | Jul 20 04:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Run Much Faster On AMD Catalyst For Linux | Jul 20 04:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Em5mMCM87C (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 04:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68i6 | Jul 20 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | How To Make Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Run Much Faster On AMD Catalyst For Linux - Phoronix | Jul 20 04:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #PisiLinux 1.2 is out http://t.co/3U7YdEIeoX | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pisilinux.org) http://t.co/iHSR3iGEF1 | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com) #gnu #linux | Jul 20 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pisilinux.org | İndir | Pisi Linux | Jul 20 04:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #pardus | Jul 20 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Pisi Linux 1.2 is available! | Jul 20 04:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68i8 | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/60AGuZfaZD (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68ij | Jul 20 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 04:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update will Bring The Refunds For Purchased Apps Feature, The New Thumnailer And Many Other New Features | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 04:03 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow....' | Jul 20 04:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful Looking | Jul 20 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next Month | Jul 20 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zbVURYYNex (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 20 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68no | Jul 20 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful Looking JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next Month | GamingOnLinux | Jul 20 04:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another stable release, #GlusterFS 3.5.5 is | Jul 20 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ready http://t.co/GZGwSBPcaU | Jul 20 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nixpanic.net | Nixpanic's Blog: Another stable release, GlusterFS 3.5.5 is ready | Jul 20 04:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serial content tracker http://t.co/FZG7RTIZH8 | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker | Tux Machines | Jul 20 04:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68ze | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cyJ7TACBby (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zf | Jul 20 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 04:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Zk1coDDD3N (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zg | Jul 20 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 04:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8VpCThlk2b (techrights.org) | Jul 20 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n68zh | Jul 20 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | Techrights | Jul 20 04:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released | Jul 20 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already | Jul 20 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/60AGuZfaZD (linuxg.net) | Jul 20 05:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69fe | Jul 20 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update will Bring The Refunds For Purchased Apps Feature, The New Thumnailer And Many Other New Features | LinuxG.net | Jul 20 05:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2G | Jul 20 06:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 20 06:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.2-rc3 https://t.co/9j4GZxjvKl | Jul 20 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lkml.org) http://t.co/kIk1BVwrNw | Jul 20 06:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 4.2-rc3 | Jul 20 06:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69y0 | Jul 20 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.2 Release Candidate 3 with Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Jul 20 06:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Jul 20 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5rizvUZBzz (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69z9 | Jul 20 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE - Phoronix | Jul 20 06:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the | Jul 20 06:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/aZPMsrh2TH | Jul 20 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu - Softpedia | Jul 20 06:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69zd | Jul 20 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this | Jul 20 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the future of phones? https://t.co/KoK1q9MQxN | Jul 20 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpit.com) | Jul 20 06:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n69zf | Jul 20 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? - AndroidPIT | Jul 20 06:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi | Jul 20 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | Jul 20 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/whdoNtywxy (www.itproportal.com) | Jul 20 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | proprietary | Jul 20 06:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | ITProPortal.com | Jul 20 06:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a19 | Jul 20 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It | Jul 20 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Needs Testing http://t.co/JiCm2tnRDz | Jul 20 06:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing - Softpedia | Jul 20 06:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a1a | Jul 20 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky | Jul 20 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | serial content tracker http://t.co/gowqlQ1erZ | Jul 20 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jul 20 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker • The Register | Jul 20 06:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a1b | Jul 20 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a32 | Jul 20 06:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - Softpedia | Jul 20 06:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with 8 and 9.7 inch screen options | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KAO1uVDK4z (betanews.com) | Jul 20 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet with 8 and 9.7 inch screen options | Jul 20 06:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a33 | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available http://t.co/OzvxHM8USo | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 20 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently available | Jul 20 06:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6a34 | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux | Jul 20 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/GGS5waeMPw | Jul 20 06:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 20 06:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bfnBg7RDDa (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 07:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer - Softpedia | Jul 20 07:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Different OS http://t.co/s2USKEFySW | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and Different OS - Softpedia | Jul 20 07:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6afq | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone has much improved hardware | Jul 20 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) low | Jul 20 07:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6afs | Jul 20 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Alphr | Jul 20 07:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, | Jul 20 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Jul 20 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - Softpedia | Jul 20 08:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6awn | Jul 20 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content | Jul 20 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 http://t.co/1v2WDa1LWs | Jul 20 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 | Techrights | Jul 20 08:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSS Leftovers http://t.co/pBz3WJ404G | Jul 20 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 20 08:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/ujjHwPhmPM | Jul 20 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 20 08:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/q2i8dcMlgU | Jul 20 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 20 08:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/iV9YvIrZiz | Jul 20 11:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 20 11:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/WvXVo0PqGe | Jul 20 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 20 11:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6dp1 | Jul 20 11:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @hearthstoneR9 favourited 'Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful Gaming Laptop...' | Jul 20 12:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meizu MX4 ‘Ubuntu Edition’ Smartphone Now | Jul 20 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Everyone In EU http://t.co/36nC8mZBn8 | Jul 20 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tomshardware.com) | Jul 20 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e2d | Jul 20 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Meizu MX4 'Ubuntu Edition' Smartphone Now Everyone In EU | Jul 20 12:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “Meizu and Canonical chose to bring the MX4 | Jul 20 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition in Europe in a different way.” | Jul 20 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/hlEPfcNcJA (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e2e | Jul 20 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition Is Now Available for Purchase Freely in Europe - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on | Jul 20 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux | Jul 20 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e65 | Jul 20 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2G | Jul 20 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 20 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 20 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e52 | Jul 20 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PLUMgrid Joins @LinuxFoundation as Gold Member | Jul 20 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5pBKWhxOfj (news.sys-con.com) | Jul 20 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e95 | Jul 20 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sys-con.com | PLUMgrid Joins Linux Foundation as Gold Member | news.sys-con.com | Jul 20 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Jul 20 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uFm735UcRm (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 20 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | ZDNet | Jul 20 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6e96 | Jul 20 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with | Jul 20 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/GhWM8h5Nfi | Jul 20 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon - Softpedia | Jul 20 12:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for | Jul 20 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $109.99 http://t.co/G77DqRH9AS | Jul 20 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edl | Jul 20 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 | Tux Machines | Jul 20 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Jul 20 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ql62x0Enw5 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edm | Jul 20 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 17.2: The year's best Linux desktop | Tux Machines | Jul 20 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for | Jul 20 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | $109.99 http://t.co/VsnN9OFdXW (www.cnet.com) | Jul 20 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 - CNET | Jul 20 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6edn | Jul 20 12:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: is | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by this the future of phones? | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @stanmobitech http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (via @tuxmachines) | Jul 20 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux Machines | Jul 20 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f06 | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JeckFMgrdL (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f07 | Jul 20 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux - Phoronix | Jul 20 13:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/ocMtcF1QSy | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4r | Jul 20 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon | Tux Machines | Jul 20 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/ISetn1PGVx | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 20 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4s | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tbIXXhzSlw (www.linux.com) | Jul 20 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6f4u | Jul 20 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Linux.com | Jul 20 13:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/ORvk61eQev | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (neptuneos.com) | Jul 20 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neptuneos.com | Neptune 4.4 Release - Neptune EN | Jul 20 15:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghf | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZLTvXTp1KU (kdenlive.org) | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Kdenlive 15.08 will be released with KDE | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08." | Jul 20 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org | Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | Kdenlive | Jul 20 15:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghg | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/crAKSiID0B (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6ghj | Jul 20 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Tux Machines | Jul 20 15:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/oIvE8C4Tm7 | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neptune 4.4 Release | Tux Machines | Jul 20 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6glh | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapper http://t.co/r2hUUTQhs5 | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper - Phoronix | Jul 20 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6gli | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Steam for Linux | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6glj | Jul 20 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux http://t.co/4k6WMYvneH | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 20 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h1y | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MWpn60wJzD (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h21 | Jul 20 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Linux Journal | Jul 20 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapper http://t.co/KqZkXfhaqk | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6h22 | Jul 20 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper | Tux Machines | Jul 20 16:30 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theallium.com/engineering/computer-programming-to-be-officially-renamed-googling-stackoverflow/ | Jul 20 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theallium.com | Computer Programming To Be Officially Renamed "Googling Stackoverflow" - The Allium [ http://ur1.ca/n6hdn ] | Jul 20 17:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Temporarily Suspends XPS 13 Developer | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition Sales to Fix Issues | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Jx5ByAkp5M (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6hle | Jul 20 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Dell Temporarily Suspends XPS 13 Developer Edition Sales to Fix Issues - Softpedia | Jul 20 17:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tfMelPeWTH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6hlg | Jul 20 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A secret option in your Android phone can help | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | make it work faster http://t.co/MoWMS5f9ub | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6hll | Jul 20 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A secret option in your Android phone can help make it work faster | Tux Machines | Jul 20 17:21 | |
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| cubexyz | this is old but worth a look: | Jul 20 17:41 |
| cubexyz | http://www.osnews.com/story/15235/Investigating-the-Plan-9-Operating-System/ | Jul 20 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osnews.com | Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System [ http://ur1.ca/n6ht5 ] | Jul 20 17:41 | |
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| MinceR | https://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/ | Jul 20 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhartikk.github.io | ArnoldC | Jul 20 18:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoDPI/status/623251004977451008 | Jul 20 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NoDPI: @schestowitz The only weapon you have is your wallet. Govt believe you have choice, and if you choose not to use it, they will not regulate. | Jul 20 18:11 | |
| cubexyz | porting my hexeditor to quasijarus... should be interesting | Jul 20 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoDPI/status/623251289837846528 | Jul 20 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NoDPI: @schestowitz ... sadly. Consequently... BT can get away with screwing their customers over and don't much care about complaints. | Jul 20 18:11 | |
| cubexyz | since the original program was written for Xenix | Jul 20 18:11 |
| cubexyz | no free-nets in UK? | Jul 20 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious | Jul 20 18:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android PC http://t.co/inV2fec6Iy | Jul 20 18:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6i6p | Jul 20 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious Android PC | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux without Flash: User Tips | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9CSsqxJURE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6i6r | Jul 20 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux without Flash: User Tips | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | copyright violation http://t.co/1en3EFJcxp | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Democratizing Open Source Technology to Empower | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Innovators http://t.co/ZGGC8V2bXC | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Democratizing Open Source Technology to Empower Innovators | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Bears Open Source Gifts From China | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VdKfkCaxYk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Bears Open Source Gifts From China | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OZ7C09iBy1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DragonFlyBSD Finally Has Working Valley View / | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bay Trail Graphics Support | Jul 20 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/TLq52tzFJd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DragonFlyBSD Finally Has Working Valley View / Bay Trail Graphics Support | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:13 | |
| cubexyz | ah now I remember... quasijarus doesn't have termio | Jul 20 18:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/623254370914844672 | Jul 20 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Ted Stevens called 'em tubes. Even more stupid than pipes! | Jul 20 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | is he on tubes yet? | Jul 20 18:15 |
| cubexyz | it's not a big truck :) | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/623255018288861184 | Jul 20 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I think 6 feet under | Jul 20 18:17 | |
| cubexyz | died in Aug 2010 | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I think not | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | the former topic | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know he died | Jul 20 18:17 |
| cubexyz | yeah in a plane crash | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | well, good riddance, given his other policies | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | one of those 'extremist' politicians | Jul 20 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall some of his other controversial stances | Jul 20 18:18 |
| cubexyz | it seems I'm still stuck in sysv land | Jul 20 18:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Jul 20 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WP9XSevymk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:19 | |
| cubexyz | my previous work on Xenix was sysv style programming | Jul 20 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RamiSilawi An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Jul 20 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ILYa6CVhpE (www.tuxmachines.org) RT | Jul 20 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines | Jul 20 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android | Jul 20 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SivVLPqPVo (www.tomsguide.com) | Jul 20 18:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android - Tom's Guide | Jul 20 18:19 | |
| cubexyz | Linux is basically sysv at least to me | Jul 20 18:20 |
| cubexyz | termio is from sysv | Jul 20 18:20 |
| cubexyz | you can't just ignore all that | Jul 20 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A secret option in your Android phone can help | Jul 20 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | make it work faster http://t.co/k8uYq0mz1N | Jul 20 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Speed up your Android smartphone - Business Insider | Jul 20 18:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (uk.businessinsider.com) | Jul 20 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious | Jul 20 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android PC http://t.co/tRPmgljleF | Jul 20 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 20 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious Android PC · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 20 18:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux without Flash: User Tips | Jul 20 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RhWIjeIATY (www.datamation.com) | Jul 20 18:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Linux without Flash: User Tips - Datamation | Jul 20 18:22 | |
| MinceR | it's more like a mix of sysv, bsd and posix :) | Jul 20 18:24 |
| cubexyz | termios is (evidently) identical to struct termio use by SVR4 | Jul 20 18:26 |
| cubexyz | but the types are different | Jul 20 18:26 |
| MinceR | ps even lets you mix sysv-style and bsd-style parameters | Jul 20 18:26 |
| cubexyz | if I had access to a motif based hexediter that would help speed things up | Jul 20 18:27 |
| cubexyz | then port to openbsd would be easy | Jul 20 18:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/623257443854872576 | Jul 20 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Well .. any OS without #Adobe #Flash is super easy . . one step @schestowitz 1) Don't fucking install flash! | Jul 20 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | indeed, some come with it already | Jul 20 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a | Jul 20 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | copyright violation http://t.co/49LDEwWU1t | Jul 20 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Jul 20 18:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mjg59.dreamwidth.org) | Jul 20 18:28 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want...' | Jul 20 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/623258515453259776 | Jul 20 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz What's putting my off the iPhone is insane change so can't upload pics 👎🏼 | Jul 20 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/623258899299344385 | Jul 20 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Yah I have indeed seen people with (mostly windows) with weird vendor specific software that includes flash, terrible practice @schestowitz | Jul 20 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | I hope my distro stops it | Jul 20 18:32 |
| cubexyz | you can't really count on any distro too much | Jul 20 18:33 |
| MinceR | especially not on the ones that use systemd by default | Jul 20 18:34 |
| cubexyz | I'm building up a list of ncurses programs and other stuff I'd like to see in a distro | Jul 20 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a | Jul 20 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by copyright violation http://t.co/1en3EFJcxp | Jul 20 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tokvbok (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Tux Machines | Jul 20 18:45 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/best-terminal-applications-for-linux-unix-macosx/ | Jul 20 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | 15 Greatest Open Source Terminal Applications Of 2012 [ http://ur1.ca/c0r8m ] | Jul 20 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Jul 20 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rQ2wZUtmvT | Jul 20 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk | Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Jul 20 18:45 | |
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| cubexyz | there's on continuity with distros | Jul 20 18:51 |
| cubexyz | there's no continuity with distros | Jul 20 18:52 |
| cubexyz | if you use something old like fc1 or openbsd 4.7 your repos have stopped working | Jul 20 18:52 |
| cubexyz | I'd like to make a distro where that doesn't happen | Jul 20 18:53 |
| cubexyz | of course you can go tarball and fix stuff yourself | Jul 20 18:54 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge can crap out | Jul 20 18:54 |
| MinceR | sourceforge is unreliable | Jul 20 18:54 |
| MinceR | they put malware in installers | Jul 20 18:54 |
| MinceR | also, their site is down nowadays | Jul 20 18:55 |
| cubexyz | yeah that's kind of why I'm gathering up tarballs and archiving them | Jul 20 18:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plugins, plugins, plugins – or how KDE | Jul 20 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Frameworks learned to Wayland | Jul 20 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7YiilwKN2p (error) | Jul 20 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/surlydev/status/623267499048570880 | Jul 20 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@surlydev: @schestowitz And companies call employees "human resources". | Jul 20 19:13 | |
| schestowitz | Oh, yes... | Jul 20 19:13 |
| cubexyz | msb__, if you like vi you might want to check out vifm | Jul 20 19:15 |
| cubexyz | it's a vi file manager | Jul 20 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE/Qt http://t.co/xWzM7mbwFG | Jul 20 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE/Qt | Tux Machines | Jul 20 19:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says | Jul 20 19:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Jul 20 19:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DiQTnvIic7 (thenewstack.io) | Jul 20 19:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes - The New Stack | Jul 20 19:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A solid experience with SolydXK | Jul 20 19:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/IrI6aIxdvN (distrowatch.com) | Jul 20 19:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Jul 20 19:19 | |
| cubexyz | I find if you really learn about configure and it's options then dealing with programs at the tarball level isn't too bad | Jul 20 19:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/surlydev/status/623270467898613760 | Jul 20 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@surlydev: @schestowitz I despise the term HR. It makes one feel as valued as a stapler. | Jul 20 19:20 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I have never used vi. I use the editor in mc. | Jul 20 19:20 |
| schestowitz | vi is useful sometimes | Jul 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | I prefer nanp | Jul 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | nano | Jul 20 19:21 |
| cubexyz | O_o | Jul 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | far more intutive | Jul 20 19:21 |
| schestowitz | less things to memorise | Jul 20 19:21 |
| MinceR | "The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that it's all learned." | Jul 20 19:24 |
| cubexyz | vifm has some similarities to midnight commander | Jul 20 19:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Telegram in Fedora | Jul 20 19:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Aspyr Media Is Launching A New Linux Game | Jul 20 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomorrow http://t.co/3QRyKkFash | Jul 20 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 20 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Aspyr Media Is Launching A New Linux Game Tomorrow - Phoronix | Jul 20 19:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A solid experience with SolydXK | Jul 20 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ctn9R5f2tp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 20 19:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A solid experience with SolydXK | Tux Machines | Jul 20 19:37 | |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, you might find gvim more platable compared to vim or vi | Jul 20 19:40 |
| cubexyz | e.g. you can make the font bigger | Jul 20 19:41 |
| MinceR | and you have a menu and a toolbar | Jul 20 19:42 |
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| cubexyz | I do use kedit sometimes | Jul 20 19:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/623276428512116736 | Jul 20 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz Agreed but everyone will pay for a macdonalds ewww and this carrys liberty on the label! #upsideDownWorld | Jul 20 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | Only fools those who are lost causes | Jul 20 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says | Jul 20 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Jul 20 20:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No Agents Needed to Monitor Containers, Says Sysdig, Just Linux Kernel Changes | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/qPeDTUpCLo | Jul 20 20:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/l3eS3TGRcL | Jul 20 20:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/zA8HWZpxXc | Jul 20 20:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation Additions and Phoronix Catchup | Jul 20 20:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Additions and Phoronix Catchup | Tux Machines | Jul 20 20:25 | |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: I tried nano, but it seems less intuitive than the mc editor. Since I already use mc as my filemanager, the good integration of its editor is helpful. | Jul 20 21:06 |
| msb__ | The only thing I miss is being able to invoke a program (e.g. in C) upon the selected text from within the editor. Now I have to write out the selection to the edit buffer file (one keystroke), run the program (e.g. 3 keystrokes), delete the selection (one keystroke), and read back the modified edit buffer file (one keystroke). | Jul 20 21:09 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I remember what the difference is | Jul 20 21:11 |
| oiaohm | nano makes it really fast to copy and duplicate lines. | Jul 20 21:11 |
| oiaohm | mcedit is better with mouse | Jul 20 21:11 |
| MinceR | vim makes it fast too | Jul 20 21:13 |
| msb__ | F3 selects words, lines, or columns | Jul 20 21:13 |
| MinceR | and gvim is even better with mouse :> | Jul 20 21:13 |
| oiaohm | msb__: Ctrl-K the Cut Text in nano default is cut a complete line | Jul 20 21:13 |
| MinceR | in vim, cut a line is dd | Jul 20 21:13 |
| msb__ | F5 copies selection to cursor, F6 moves selection to cursor. | Jul 20 21:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have dyslexia so remember key commands that at not displayed on screen is problemmatic. | Jul 20 21:14 |
| msb__ | what could be faster? Selection is shown in reverse video. | Jul 20 21:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i see | Jul 20 21:14 |
| oiaohm | vim and emacs don't get along with me. | Jul 20 21:15 |
| oiaohm | nano and mcedit are workable. | Jul 20 21:15 |
| msb__ | vim is too primitive and emacs too complicated for me. | Jul 20 21:17 |
| oiaohm | msb__: not really vim can do everything emacs can. | Jul 20 21:17 |
| oiaohm | But its how many hoops are you willing to jump through to get there. | Jul 20 21:18 |
| msb__ | right | Jul 20 21:18 |
| oiaohm | and some things vim does simplely are extreamly hard in emacs | Jul 20 21:18 |
| msb__ | "Emacs is a great operating system. All it needs is a good editor." | Jul 20 21:18 |
| oiaohm | Main reason I don't use either I screw up the keyboard codes all the time. | Jul 20 21:18 |
| MinceR | vim is many things, 'primitive' is not one of those things | Jul 20 21:18 |
| MinceR | and there's a good editor for emacs, it's called "evil" | Jul 20 21:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: does it have on screen display of the commands in a usable memu. | Jul 20 21:20 |
| oiaohm | If so I will look at it. | Jul 20 21:20 |
| MinceR | no, but you can display a cheat-sheet beside it :) | Jul 20 21:20 |
| cubexyz | there's gvim and kvim | Jul 20 21:20 |
| msb__ | I meant the UI of vim seems primitive to me. | Jul 20 21:20 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of kvim, only yzis (or what it was) | Jul 20 21:20 |
| MinceR | i think the UI is pretty good -- you have easy-to-remember and easy-to-type commands and you have a command line | Jul 20 21:21 |
| oiaohm | When I am stuck on terminal its nano or mcedit for me. | Jul 20 21:21 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for nvim to get a GUI | Jul 20 21:21 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, maybe I'm wrong about kvim | Jul 20 21:22 |
| cubexyz | I thought it existed | Jul 20 21:22 |
| MinceR | ("evil" is a vi emulation mode that isn't designed to convert you to using emacs without it, unlike viper) | Jul 20 21:22 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of people out there like me who just simple cannot cope with the idea of a command line driven editor. | Jul 20 21:22 |
| cubexyz | so what did you use in the 1980s? | Jul 20 21:22 |
| MinceR | well, it's not exactly "driver" by it but it's there when you need it | Jul 20 21:22 |
| MinceR | s/ver/ven/ | Jul 20 21:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: pico | Jul 20 21:23 |
| oiaohm | pico was the editor out of the email package called pine and nano is a reimplementation of it. | Jul 20 21:23 |
| MinceR | i used pico or nano when i was setting up gentoo | Jul 20 21:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes pico and nano that identical unless you remember the command you run you cannot tell the difference. | Jul 20 21:24 |
| msb__ | In mc, when you return to a previously edited file, the cursor goes to the same place you left it last time. Do those other editors do that? | Jul 20 21:24 |
| MinceR | vim can be set up to do that, i have | Jul 20 21:24 |
| cubexyz | I see now kvim existed but it was orphaned | Jul 20 21:25 |
| msb__ | My favorite editor was BRIEF in PCDOS. There's a Linux version for about $150. | Jul 20 21:26 |
| oiaohm | msb__: pico and nano both support +100 for move from start of file down 100 lines and so on. By default nano and pico just go to start. | Jul 20 21:26 |
| oiaohm | Mind you both nano and pico are design to operate without needing a configuration file. | Jul 20 21:27 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: But I want the cursor to go where I left it last time. | Jul 20 21:27 |
| MinceR | actually it's not set up here, but i could find the way to set it up | Jul 20 21:28 |
| cubexyz | found kvim :) | Jul 20 21:28 |
| cubexyz | looks like 2003 era | Jul 20 21:28 |
| MinceR | http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Restore_cursor_to_file_position_in_previous_editing_session | Jul 20 21:28 |
| msb__ | MinceR: But not in vim. Don't like vim. | Jul 20 21:28 |
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| cubexyz | how far back does pico go? | Jul 20 21:29 |
| msb__ | my mceditor has a 1024 line filepos file. | Jul 20 21:30 |
| MinceR | as far as pine does, i think | Jul 20 21:30 |
| cubexyz | weird kvim has all this gtk stuff in it | Jul 20 21:31 |
| cubexyz | on Xenix and Venix and old BSD it was always vi I used | Jul 20 21:31 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I knew there was a difference. +line,column is support by nano command line where mcedit only supports going to a line number. | Jul 20 21:32 |
| cubexyz | in the IBM mainframe world I used XEDIT | Jul 20 21:32 |
| oiaohm | msb__: yes nano does not remember where you were last time. But reading a gcc error with error on X line number X column nano is great. | Jul 20 21:32 |
| cubexyz | of course on really old Unix you had ed | Jul 20 21:32 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: mcedit returns to the same line and character as it was last on. | Jul 20 21:33 |
| MinceR | ed is the standard text editor. | Jul 20 21:33 |
| MinceR | http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html | Jul 20 21:33 |
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| oiaohm | msb__: it returns to the last position it was on because it writing into a log file. | Jul 20 21:34 |
| oiaohm | msb__: stuff like embeded devices mcedit is not exactly the best. | Jul 20 21:34 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: Correct ~/.mc/filepos | Jul 20 21:34 |
| oiaohm | Depending on what I am working depends if I am nano or mcedit | Jul 20 21:35 |
| oiaohm | Both have their place. | Jul 20 21:35 |
| oiaohm | Yes nano has a mouse mode and it suxs | Jul 20 21:38 |
| cubexyz | what Unixes had pico, I can't recall seeing that | Jul 20 21:38 |
| MinceR | the ones that have pine, presumably | Jul 20 21:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: or the ones you added pine on to. | Jul 20 21:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct pine is the 90s | Jul 20 21:44 |
| oiaohm | I cannot remember exactly what I used in the 80s | Jul 20 21:44 |
| oiaohm | Possiblely something really horible like MS dos edit | Jul 20 21:45 |
| cubexyz | the BSD world was vi pretty far back | Jul 20 21:45 |
| oiaohm | freebsd also has ee | Jul 20 21:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: going way back there have been altertives to using vi | Jul 20 21:47 |
| oiaohm | Using vi or emacs I need a cheat sheet or I am completely screwed. | Jul 20 21:48 |
| cubexyz | sure, vi was originally considered to be a memory pig | Jul 20 21:48 |
| cubexyz | Thompson said he preferred ed | Jul 20 21:48 |
| oiaohm | I have done horibles like echo test >> file because the system only had vi and I could not remember how to use it. | Jul 20 21:49 |
| cubexyz | if I run 32v for vax780 it doesn't have vi | Jul 20 21:49 |
| cubexyz | 32v basically being the v7 port to Vax 11/780 | Jul 20 21:49 |
| cubexyz | I guess BSD 2.0 was the first to use vi | Jul 20 21:50 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure what the heck kvim is now that I've looked at it | Jul 20 21:51 |
| cubexyz | ugh, it's just a version of gvim | Jul 20 21:52 |
| cubexyz | I've been tricked | Jul 20 21:52 |
| oiaohm | ne I can kinda get along with as long as I remember f1 open memu | Jul 20 21:52 |
| cubexyz | in fact in old BSD vi was a pain in the butt | Jul 20 21:55 |
| oiaohm | ee under bsd is remember to press esc to display menu | Jul 20 21:55 |
| cubexyz | the hardware support was poor | Jul 20 21:55 |
| cubexyz | so I ended up using ed | Jul 20 21:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have got very good at find text editors with memus. | Jul 20 21:55 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that's good :) | Jul 20 21:56 |
| cubexyz | you can help find kvim :) | Jul 20 21:56 |
| MinceR | gvim has a menu :> | Jul 20 21:56 |
| cubexyz | kate had some sort of vim mode | Jul 20 21:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I just tried it I remembered why I hated it. | Jul 20 21:57 |
| cubexyz | not sure if it's still around | Jul 20 21:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Screw having modes as well. | Jul 20 21:58 |
| oiaohm | I am editing a file I just want to edit it. | Jul 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | every text editor has modes, it's just that many of them aren't honest about it | Jul 20 21:58 |
| oiaohm | The ones I like just always return to insert mode. MinceR | Jul 20 21:58 |
| cubexyz | seems like kvim and Yzis are orphaned | Jul 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | input will be processed differently if you have overstrike instead of insert, or if you have text selected, or if you're in the menu, or if you're entering the name of the file to save | Jul 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | evim uses insert mode by default | Jul 20 21:59 |
| cubexyz | what is evim? | Jul 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | "easy" vim | Jul 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | it ships with vim | Jul 20 22:02 |
| cubexyz | oh | Jul 20 22:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: at long last a vim I can get along with. | Jul 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | it also apparently doesn't even let you go to normal mode | Jul 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | it probably requires X | Jul 20 22:02 |
| cubexyz | looks just like gvim | Jul 20 22:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it looks the same true. But it behaves differently. | Jul 20 22:03 |
| cubexyz | same toolkit though right? | Jul 20 22:03 |
| MinceR | i don't know if it lets you access all of the functionality of vim, though | Jul 20 22:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's just a symlink to vim.gtk | Jul 20 22:04 |
| oiaohm | Being limited to X11 is a problem. | Jul 20 22:04 |
| MinceR | like gvim | Jul 20 22:04 |
| oiaohm | But something like evim built with ncurses would be good. | Jul 20 22:04 |
| MinceR | and even vim | Jul 20 22:04 |
| MinceR | so it just decides how to work based on the command name | Jul 20 22:04 |
| cubexyz | I thought I was being clever writing my own hex editor | Jul 20 22:04 |
| cubexyz | but then termios vs termio :) | Jul 20 22:05 |
| cubexyz | damn programmers always have to do things different | Jul 20 22:05 |
| MinceR | evim would probably be unusable without the menu, which only works with X11 | Jul 20 22:05 |
| cubexyz | doesn't gvim revert to regular vim without X? | Jul 20 22:06 |
| MinceR | it probably does | Jul 20 22:06 |
| MinceR | [mincer@darkstar:pts/17:/home/mincer]% DISPLAY="" evim | Jul 20 22:07 |
| MinceR | E233: cannot open display | Jul 20 22:07 |
| oiaohm | evim can switch out of insert mode. MinceR | Jul 20 22:07 |
| oiaohm | and use everything gvim can but its just not simple. | Jul 20 22:07 |
| MinceR | at this point, gvim waits for enter and starts as vim, evim quits | Jul 20 22:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 20 22:07 |
| cubexyz | you aren't actually running Darkstar Linux though right? :) | Jul 20 22:07 |
| MinceR | oh, i didn't look hard enough | Jul 20 22:08 |
| MinceR | no | Jul 20 22:08 |
| MinceR | my ThinkPad X220i Tablet is called darkstar | Jul 20 22:08 |
| MinceR | it's running crunchbang still | Jul 20 22:08 |
| oiaohm | To switch out of insert mode is under edit->global settings->toggle insert mode | Jul 20 22:08 |
| MinceR | yeah, i noticed this time | Jul 20 22:08 |
| oiaohm | But evim is how I want a editor starting. | Jul 20 22:08 |
| cubexyz | all I wanted was to try kvim, not enter the grand labyrinth of lost text editors | Jul 20 22:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 20 22:09 |
| oiaohm | I don't want to have to think about modes. | Jul 20 22:09 |
| oiaohm | Unless I want do something needing modes. | Jul 20 22:09 |
| MinceR | i think all visual editors have modes | Jul 20 22:09 |
| MinceR | maybe line-based ones don't | Jul 20 22:09 |
| oiaohm | Note the that I don't want to think about it. | Jul 20 22:09 |
| cubexyz | no, line editors have modes too | Jul 20 22:10 |
| oiaohm | So it may have modes but todo a general edit I don't want to have to switch modes todo it. | Jul 20 22:10 |
| cubexyz | you're in insert mode, or not | Jul 20 22:10 |
| MinceR | i could conceive of a line editor that doesn't have modes, but i'm not sure if one actually exists | Jul 20 22:10 |
| MinceR | i've never used any of them | Jul 20 22:10 |
| oiaohm | ed under dos did not have modes and it was absolutely horible | Jul 20 22:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 20 22:10 |
| MinceR | edlin? | Jul 20 22:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep edlin | Jul 20 22:11 |
| MinceR | even edlin has modes apparently -- ^C stops inserting lines | Jul 20 22:11 |
| cubexyz | you have to be able to enter commands :) | Jul 20 22:11 |
| MinceR | if we had one that doesn't let you just keep adding lines but would have to use a command for each line, that could be arguably modeless | Jul 20 22:12 |
| cubexyz | otherwise everything you type would be added text | Jul 20 22:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really early version of edlin only allowed adding 1 line at a time. | Jul 20 22:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 20 22:12 |
| oiaohm | no ^C feature. | Jul 20 22:12 |
| oiaohm | Yes truly horible, | Jul 20 22:12 |
| MinceR | i guess that was the truly modeless editor, then | Jul 20 22:12 |
| cubexyz | cat would be the closest thing to a modeless editor | Jul 20 22:13 |
| oiaohm | only modeless editor that still alive is echo test >> file. | Jul 20 22:13 |
| oiaohm | And it not a great editor. | Jul 20 22:13 |
| cubexyz | not much of an 'editor' though :) | Jul 20 22:13 |
| MinceR | hm, TECO might be it | Jul 20 22:14 |
| MinceR | but it's too late for me to try and understand it :) | Jul 20 22:14 |
| oiaohm | http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TecoEditor | Jul 20 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-c2.com | Teco Editor | Jul 20 22:16 | |
| oiaohm | Really teco is a nightmare. | Jul 20 22:16 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 20 22:16 |
| oiaohm | I like how its called a editor when its an extreamly strange programming language | Jul 20 22:17 |
| cubexyz | well PDP-1 had TECO | Jul 20 22:17 |
| cubexyz | so you know, you have to take the limitations of the era into account | Jul 20 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Yes teco makes emacs seams safe | Jul 20 22:17 |
| cubexyz | basically a program that predates the PDP-4 | Jul 20 22:18 |
| oiaohm | Please note someone made a video editor that uses teco commands. | Jul 20 22:19 |
| cubexyz | the era of 80-pass Fortran compilers | Jul 20 22:19 |
| cubexyz | everything was painful in those days | Jul 20 22:19 |
| cubexyz | sorry 63 pass fortran compiler :) | Jul 20 22:21 |
| cubexyz | or something like that | Jul 20 22:21 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/rhaberkorn/videoteco-fork | Jul 20 22:21 |
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| oiaohm | I did forgot a modeless editor. sed | Jul 20 22:21 |
| oiaohm | But using sed to do general editing is painful. | Jul 20 22:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes we need a few modes but they need to be natural. | Jul 20 22:24 |
| cubexyz | I liked XEDIT with the prefix window | Jul 20 22:25 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Xedit is primitive but it passes my basic acceptable. | Jul 20 22:27 |
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| oiaohm | You are not needing to know anything special to make it work and everything you need to make it work is on screen. | Jul 20 22:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, but I mean XEDIT for IBM VM/SP, not xedit for *nix | Jul 20 22:27 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I guess xedit IBM VM/SP is horible. | Jul 20 22:28 |
| oiaohm | Never used it. | Jul 20 22:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/vmsp5.png | Jul 20 22:28 |
| cubexyz | it was OK | Jul 20 22:28 |
| cubexyz | it's nothing like *nix xedit | Jul 20 22:29 |
| oiaohm | For a person like me I I would hate that | Jul 20 22:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: when a person says it was Ok I worry. | Jul 20 22:29 |
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| cubexyz | it | Jul 20 22:33 |
| cubexyz | it's still around in the mainframe world | Jul 20 22:33 |
| oiaohm | the 3 billion dollar market that will not die. | Jul 20 22:34 |
| cubexyz | the OS is called z/VM since the year 2000 | Jul 20 22:34 |
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| __martin__ | enjoy :'D | Jul 20 22:35 |
| __martin__ | morning folks | Jul 20 22:35 |
| cubexyz | ok, why is Glenda the Plan9 bunny in there? :) | Jul 20 22:37 |
| cubexyz | oh, it's giving systemd the finger :) | Jul 20 22:37 |
| __martin__ | because of devuan attitude :_D | Jul 20 22:37 |
| oiaohm | Haiku OS is now working on something like systemd/launchd instead of start up scripts. | Jul 20 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Of course Haiku OS has been more sane and defined what features it should have. | Jul 20 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Not the super feature creap that systemd is. | Jul 20 22:40 |
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| cubexyz | the cool thing these days is, people can run a ton of different things | Jul 20 22:41 |
| cubexyz | I can run DMS if I want | Jul 20 22:42 |
| oiaohm | The hard reality is sysvinit and a lot of the script based init systems had to die. | Jul 20 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is nothing that worked was really ready. | Jul 20 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Without modification my debian system running systemd starts all bar KDM. KDM due to still being sysvinit I have to put a few extra in so it starts in the right place. | Jul 20 22:44 |
| oiaohm | This is down from 12 modifications when systemd first released to 1 now. | Jul 20 22:45 |
| cubexyz | but doesn't openrc and upstart use scripts also? | Jul 20 22:47 |
| oiaohm | Of course the system I am on disobeyed all the systemd install instructions. / and /usr and /usr/local are different partitions /var /home /tmp /opt are also different partitions. | Jul 20 22:47 |
| oiaohm | openrc and upstart both have wrapper programs around the outside of the scripts. | Jul 20 22:48 |
| oiaohm | That is how come they can track services. | Jul 20 22:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: script based init is a really small init system with almost all the logic for service tracking attempted to be done by script. | Jul 20 22:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that just simply does not work. | Jul 20 22:49 |
| cubexyz | systemd is still crap | Jul 20 23:00 |
| cubexyz | and all the bsd servers don't use it | Jul 20 23:00 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the plan9 people have their own init as well | Jul 20 23:00 |
| cubexyz | let people choice the init system they like | Jul 20 23:02 |
| cubexyz | s/choice/choose/ | Jul 20 23:02 |
| cubexyz | as for the people who aren't even running a server... well | Jul 20 23:03 |
| cubexyz | as long as it starts up and works that's all they care about | Jul 20 23:04 |
| cubexyz | kick out of X into init 1 maybe | Jul 20 23:05 |
| cubexyz | I'm still learning stuff about kdm 3.X | Jul 20 23:09 |
| cubexyz | so after 12 years I still don't know all about it | Jul 20 23:09 |
| cubexyz | so before folks even learn about the old stuff the new stuff comes along | Jul 20 23:10 |
| cubexyz | I'd love to see if the systemd folks are getting _years_ uptime like the BSD folks | Jul 20 23:12 |
| cubexyz | I bet they aren't | Jul 20 23:12 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: years of uptime was not an option remaining on sysvinit | Jul 20 23:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: BSD and plan9 init system was in fact designed to match the OS kernel under it. | Jul 20 23:27 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: choice of init system is 1 thing. The fact the choices of init for Linux have not matched the kernel have not really been real choice. | Jul 20 23:28 |
| oiaohm | Items like needrestart to restart services running out of date libraries need proper service tracking. | Jul 20 23:30 |
| oiaohm | That is why years of uptime with most of the existing Linux init systems were not possible. | Jul 20 23:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I will give you that systemd might not be the best choice. The reality is something had to change. | Jul 20 23:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the kdm issue I have with systemd is starting it before it started logind and other items kdm needs so of course it crashes. | Jul 20 23:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: bad point it crashes using a method that appears to be still running. | Jul 20 23:33 |
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| oiaohm | That is when cgrouping is great or everytime that happens you would have a process leak. | Jul 20 23:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: systemd explained why when I was under normal sysvinit at times restart kdm you would have it go vt7 then vt8 then vt9....... | Jul 20 23:35 |
| cubexyz | did you check /var/log/kdm.log ? | Jul 20 23:58 |
| cubexyz | I think I saw a few undefined symbol errors | Jul 20 23:59 |
| cubexyz | might even be why the text console messes up | Jul 21 00:02 |
| cubexyz | I never bothered to look into it, but maybe tonight I can figure it out | Jul 21 00:03 |
| cubexyz | oh I had this other issue for a long time... | Jul 21 00:09 |
| cubexyz | can't use page up/page down keys when using vi with ssh | Jul 21 00:10 |
| cubexyz | also I can't recall any X errors when using the vesa driver on openbsd | Jul 21 00:11 |
| cubexyz | probably the most stable X system I've ever run | Jul 21 00:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emmabuntus 3: take it all | Jul 21 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6NO34O5mLE (linuxblog.darkduck.com) | Jul 21 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6oz5 | Jul 21 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Emmabuntus 3: take it all - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Jul 21 05:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emmabuntus 3: take it all | Jul 21 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/swUztnqj5r (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6oz8 | Jul 21 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmabuntus 3: take it all | Tux Machines | Jul 21 05:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in | Jul 21 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Approximately 6 Weeks http://t.co/OUBzE7czm1 | Jul 21 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/kBXFriGTaS | Jul 21 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in Approximately 6 Weeks - Softpedia | Jul 21 05:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 21 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Applying the Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update on BQ Aquaris E4.5 - Softpedia | Jul 21 05:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6oz9 | Jul 21 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu | Jul 21 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.10http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-5-Ubuntu-15.10-Step-2 | Jul 21 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6p78 | Jul 21 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu 15.10 - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/n6p79 ] | Jul 21 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Profile of an Everyday FOSS Developer | Jul 21 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oG0KkItXWP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6p7a | Jul 21 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Profile of an Everyday FOSS Developer | Tux Machines | Jul 21 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in | Jul 21 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Approximately 6 Weeks http://t.co/Rq5xxoxxdS | Jul 21 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive in Approximately 6 Weeks | Tux Machines | Jul 21 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6p7b | Jul 21 06:20 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy, | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > on Sunday afternoon I noticed one or two ads "ControlRisks" on an innocent web page ( www.phonostar.de - as far as I remember). I then cleared all cookies in my Firefox (using on OpenSuse Tumbleweed). | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I cannot remember anymore, whether it was really Control Risks Group (CRG), but I think, it was. | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > Any idea, if I should enter into "panic mode", or better calm down, because they are buying such ads now and then ??? | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > I am writing this now on a different, quasi air-gapped computer, and using Tails, which I trust. | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Control Risks Group (CRG) has no reason to openly advertise. They'd get clients through other routes, and not even disclsoure who they work for. Their name, Control Risks, is so generic, that they are very hard to google. | Jul 21 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | I do often wonder how I can find out who works for them and their professional background. Even LinkedIn wouldn't reveal "Employer" such as GCHQ, so you must go by project names etc. Like the ICWatch thing, now hosted on Wikileaks (following death threats)... | Jul 21 06:50 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368110 | Jul 21 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: A secret option in your Android phone can help make it work faster http://uk.businessinsider.com/speed-up-your-android-smartphone-2015-7?op=1?r=US&IR=T | Jul 21 06:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Where is the private joke ?" | Jul 21 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Speed up your Android smartphone - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/n6pha ] | Jul 21 06:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Medo4Gaza/status/623443944865710084 | Jul 21 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Medo4Gaza: @schestowitz Help make it 4 doctor in #Gaza to reach #Germany & be Surgeon Gaza needs http://t.co/rmk8OLSWyN #Donate #RT #SurgeonToBe | Jul 21 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiegogo.com | Train a New Gazan Surgeon in Germany for Gaza | Indiegogo | Jul 21 06:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu | Jul 21 07:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.10 http://t.co/Z09bCVEgAT | Jul 21 07:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 07:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pn0 | Jul 21 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In Ubuntu 15.10 | Tux Machines | Jul 21 07:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 of the best soccer (most call it football) | Jul 21 07:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | apps for Android smartphones and tablets | Jul 21 07:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/76CiOWT6Al (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 21 07:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pn1 | Jul 21 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the best soccer (most call it football) apps for Android smartphones and tablets | Jul 21 07:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 20 best new Android apps and games this week | Jul 21 07:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/G3OSZQssQV (www.theguardian.com) | Jul 21 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | 20 best new Android apps and games this week | Technology | The Guardian | Jul 21 07:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pn2 | Jul 21 07:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0, | Jul 21 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new evidence shows http://t.co/NXr3EyWYk0 | Jul 21 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Jul 21 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0, new evidence shows | Jul 21 07:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pox | Jul 21 07:12 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: found my kdm issue its annoying starting at the wrong point to Nvidia driver interface registration. Turns out the log files of X11 and KDM say nothing useful. | Jul 21 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony starts software beta for a refreshed take | Jul 21 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Android http://t.co/7FGvEBzT43 | Jul 21 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidguys.com) | Jul 21 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6poz | Jul 21 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidguys.com | Sony starts software beta for a refreshed take on Android | Jul 21 07:12 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @zeitdice favourited '20 best new Android apps and games this...' | Jul 21 07:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Android Tablets from Samsung | Jul 21 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Sp124D6fRi (www.wired.com) | Jul 21 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | New Android Tablets from Samsung | WIRED | Jul 21 07:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pu0 | Jul 21 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo's | Jul 21 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | best games http://t.co/ysj2Q3OtQg | Jul 21 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.engadget.com) | Jul 21 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo's best games | Jul 21 07:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6pu1 | Jul 21 07:24 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ZeldaWiiUNews/status/623454033659994112 | Jul 21 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ZeldaWiiUNews: <3 https://t.co/7qlnq8RAqX | Jul 21 07:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If #Nintendo ever makes an #Android smartphone, it should look like this http://t.co/Xiiay36Tuk #linux | Jul 21 07:26 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368303 | Jul 21 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: With arrogant grin, #patent lawyers work to derail #patents reform http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/413928/Patent/Three+Things+You+Need+To+Know+About+The+Latest+Patent+Reform+Legislation http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/413936/Patent/Has+the+war+on+patent+trolls+caused+collateral+damage" title="Has The War On Patent Trolls Caused Collateral Damage? | Jul 21 07:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mondaq.com | Three Things You Need To Know About The Latest Patent Reform Legislation - Intellectual Property - United States [ http://ur1.ca/n6q2m ] | Jul 21 07:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mondaq.com | Has The War On Patent Trolls Caused Collateral Damage? - Intellectual Property - United States [ http://ur1.ca/n6q2n ] | Jul 21 07:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367713 | Jul 21 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "800 year anniversary of Magna Carta last month - I wonder how I missed all the celebrations?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367398 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta | Jul 21 07:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “you know you have rights and then you're told they don't exist because of national security” https://www.freemattdehart.com/ @PaulJDeHart @Leann02 | Jul 21 07:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Magna Carta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n6h6s ] | Jul 21 07:47 | |
| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/21/us-toshiba-accounting-stocks-idUSKCN0PV0B620150721 | Jul 21 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Toshiba CEO quits over accounting scandal | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/n6q7e ] | Jul 21 07:59 | |
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| __martin__ | https://medium.com/expost-magazine/i-worked-at-hackingteam-my-emails-were-leaked-to-wikileaks-and-i-m-ok-with-that-f8f28b0584fe | Jul 21 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com | I worked at #HackingTeam, my emails were leaked to WikiLeaks and I’m ok with that — expost magazine — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/n6rcp ] | Jul 21 09:49 | |
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| msb__ | Great speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM | Jul 21 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 5 Minute Speech that Got Judge Napolitano Fired from Fox News - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n6rtm ] | Jul 21 10:34 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DisquietedMuse/status/623475314514112512 | Jul 21 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DisquietedMuse: Totally agree @schestowitz but isn't the secret sauce layered security & apps within? Push for institutions to widely revert to #Linux ??? | Jul 21 12:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | choosing Windows is choosing something which is known, by intention, to be insecure. GNU/Linux not perfect, but aspiring to be secure | Jul 21 12:14 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369728 | Jul 21 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #games "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feeling-angry-hatred-looks-like-it-will-come-to-linux.5690 #gnu #linux | Jul 21 12:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Can i shoot politicians like G.Bush (Junior and Senior) in this game? if not - i am not gonna buy it. :-p" | Jul 21 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/n6suv ] | Jul 21 12:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Going to skip this one, methinks." | Jul 21 12:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Can only shoot the powerless... and Noriega | Jul 21 12:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369783 | Jul 21 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Norway updates list of IT procurement templates https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/144647 don't put brand names there, bar proprietary malware | Jul 21 12:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jul 21 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Norway updates list of IT procurement templates | Joinup | Jul 21 12:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | i don t understand the problem. | Jul 21 12:20 |
| r_schestowitz | bar proprietary malware ? | Jul 21 12:20 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jul 21 12:20 |
| r_schestowitz | Bar them from procuring proprietary software with back doors, i.e. malware | Jul 21 12:20 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369476 | Jul 21 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 provides the latest and greatest back doors. And folks from #microsoft say it's not even stable and nowhere near ready. | Jul 21 12:22 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Just curious. Why do some people call it “Vista8” or “Vista10”? Is the kernel used in 8 and 10 the same as in Vista, and different from XP and 98, for example?" | Jul 21 12:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I coined these term to remind people that there's DRM and lots of other issues still inside | Jul 21 12:22 |
| r_schestowitz | *terms | Jul 21 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | Windows 10 is no longer like Vista. | Jul 21 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | It's far worse now. | Jul 21 12:23 |
| XRevan86 | Update subscriptions | Jul 21 12:23 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, it keeps getting worse | Jul 21 12:23 |
| r_schestowitz | thankfully, not many people buy into it | Jul 21 12:23 |
| r_schestowitz | adoption rates of Windows have fallen | Jul 21 12:23 |
| r_schestowitz | this is why pricing tricks are making it easier to entrap people and get them 'hooked' (lock in) on 'cloud' | Jul 21 12:24 |
| XRevan86 | Christians are always wrong. | Jul 21 12:25 |
| XRevan86 | They think angels live in the cloud. | Jul 21 12:25 |
| XRevan86 | But it's the Devil himself. | Jul 21 12:25 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6370603 | Jul 21 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de: #capitalism #fail #humanrights #humanity #finance #poverty | Jul 21 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by anonymiss@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_8ad8a8b17bd143490531.jpg | Jul 21 12:26 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Shit processed food." | Jul 21 12:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Merchandising | Jul 21 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | Jul 21 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gtIrR8Cgvi (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 21 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n6t1e | Jul 21 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jul 21 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Trends: Part 1 http://t.co/7mWjYSNsO4 | Jul 21 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjaminkerensa.com | Ubuntu Trends: Part 1 – Benjamin Kerensa | Jul 21 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (benjaminkerensa.com) | Jul 21 12:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Trends, Mozilla Thunderbird, Canonical | Jul 21 12:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Licensing http://t.co/UdYFKJvyFu | Jul 21 12:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 21 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Trends, Mozilla Thunderbird, Canonical Licensing | Tux Machines | Jul 21 12:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux game review: OpenTTD | Jul 21 12:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HjqYn9skXS (opensource.com) | Jul 21 12:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | A look at OpenTTD, an open source game for Linux | Opensource.com | Jul 21 12:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux? | Jul 21 12:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/zrft5IGFA0 (www.itworld.com) | Jul 21 12:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux? | ITworld | Jul 21 12:49 | |
| xiso | Don't think win kernal has changed much since original vista. | Jul 21 13:00 |
| xiso | Just UI changes - like monkeys throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks. | Jul 21 13:01 |
| xiso | DRM got worse with each reiteration of win version after vista. | Jul 21 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pisi Linux 1.2 Screencast and Screenshots | Jul 21 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/N4gdJimyEX (www.linuxquestions.org) | Jul 21 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Screencast and Screenshots | Jul 21 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Satellite Rush Is an Awesome Roguelike Shooter | Jul 21 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Linux http://t.co/nV9Gw5Njkh | Jul 21 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 21 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Satellite Rush Is an Awesome Roguelike Shooter for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 21 13:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cloud Native Computing Foundation seeks to | Jul 21 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | forge cloud and container unity | Jul 21 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WOiDnvUGvK (www.zdnet.com) 'cloud' | Jul 21 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Cloud Native Computing Foundation seeks to forge cloud and container unity | ZDNet | Jul 21 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | that's self-controlled | Jul 21 13:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No Future for Fedora Phones | Jul 21 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GZwbKeDJD8 (ostatic.com) | Jul 21 13:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | No Future for Fedora Phones | Jul 21 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 980 Ti Is Running Strong | Jul 21 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Under Linux http://t.co/eMBjkBXP6i | Jul 21 13:39 |
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| cubexyz | klipper's history is strange | Jul 21 19:39 |
| cubexyz | it's interpersed with nulls | Jul 21 19:39 |
| cubexyz | also ctrl-y and ctrl-l's | Jul 21 19:41 |
| MinceR | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-21/470000-vehicles-risk-after-hackers-take-control-crash-jeep-cherokee-sofa-10-miles-aw | Jul 21 19:56 |
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| cubexyz | ok, strings klipper-history.txt seems to help a lot | Jul 21 19:57 |
| cubexyz | no idea why all those control codes are in there | Jul 21 19:57 |
| MinceR | maybe klipper keeps some metadata in them | Jul 21 19:58 |
| cubexyz | doubtless KDE >4.0 is different again | Jul 21 19:58 |
| MinceR | like "this came from PRIMARY, this came from CLIPBOARD" | Jul 21 19:58 |
| cubexyz | I think rasterized images can be in there too | Jul 21 20:00 |
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| cubexyz | definitely not straight text though | Jul 21 20:01 |
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| cubexyz | I assume it's possible to "dcop klipper something" | Jul 21 20:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. | Jul 21 20:13 |
| cubexyz | dcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents 12345 | Jul 21 20:13 |
| cubexyz | that will add the text 12345 to klipper's history | Jul 21 20:14 |
| MinceR | at least in kde3 and tde | Jul 21 20:15 |
| MinceR | kde4 uses dbus instead | Jul 21 20:16 |
| MinceR | which sucks | Jul 21 20:16 |
| cubexyz | yes, a bit tricky to cover every case | Jul 21 20:16 |
| cubexyz | there used to be an actually book for KDE | Jul 21 20:17 |
| cubexyz | I think it only covered KDE 2 | Jul 21 20:17 |
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| cubexyz | dcop klipper klipper getClipboardHistoryMenu | Jul 21 20:22 |
| cubexyz | there we go, all automatic | Jul 21 20:23 |
| cubexyz | why use dbus suck? | Jul 21 20:23 |
| cubexyz | er | Jul 21 20:23 |
| cubexyz | why does dbus suck? | Jul 21 20:23 |
| MinceR | it's overcomplicated and it's intended to serve for the entire system, not just an X session | Jul 21 20:25 |
| MinceR | and yet it's not designed to be restartable | Jul 21 20:25 |
| MinceR | you're supposed to reboot, like in poettering's favorite OS | Jul 21 20:25 |
| MinceR | (clients won't reconnect to the new dbus instance or something like that) | Jul 21 20:26 |
| MinceR | also, sending a message requires specifying an FQDN 3 times, using 2 different formats | Jul 21 20:26 |
| MinceR | which is ridiculous | Jul 21 20:26 |
| MinceR | also, introspection tends to fail and the application doing it tends to crash | Jul 21 20:26 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, even openbsd seems to use dbus-daemon | Jul 21 20:26 |
| cubexyz | there seems to be a battle between the old and the new all the time | Jul 21 20:30 |
| cubexyz | but at least dcop lives on in trinity | Jul 21 20:30 |
| cubexyz | on vector linux I've kept up with the KDE 3.5.10 stuff | Jul 21 20:36 |
| cubexyz | on openbsd I'm using a combination of icewm and components of xfce | Jul 21 20:36 |
| cubexyz | if I run a KDE 3.5.10 application on openbsd then dcop kicks in | Jul 21 20:38 |
| cubexyz | I think openbsd still uses KDE 3.5.10 actually | Jul 21 20:38 |
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| amarsh04 | still running KDE 3.5.9/10 on this machine, had to recompile one library for it to run with newer kernels | Jul 21 20:56 |
| cubexyz | which library? | Jul 21 21:03 |
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| amarsh04 | cubexyz, let me check | Jul 21 21:19 |
| amarsh04 | cubexyz, kdelibs4c2a | Jul 21 21:20 |
| cubexyz | amarsh04, ok thanks, that's interesting info | Jul 21 21:20 |
| oiaohm | There was also the dirty trick to force Linux kernel into old version emulation mode. | Jul 21 21:21 |
| oiaohm | Rebuilding the 1 library for those staying back that far was the best. | Jul 21 21:21 |
| oiaohm | Found the cause of my once in a blue moon dhcpd drop outs on one system. dhcpcd was installed instead of dhcpcd5 | Jul 21 21:26 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: Did you get the complete p system running with konsole/mc in any of your systems? | Jul 21 21:33 |
| cubexyz | msb__, haven't tried it as yet | Jul 21 21:34 |
| cubexyz | but it should be possible | Jul 21 21:34 |
| cubexyz | there's .viminfo | Jul 21 21:42 |
| cubexyz | I'll have to adjust the script | Jul 21 21:42 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I think I was using a program called xselection previously. | Jul 21 21:42 |
| amarsh04 | running Debian, which dropped support for KDE 3.5.x earlier than some other distributions | Jul 21 21:43 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jul 21 21:44 |
| cubexyz | also I don't have qdbus | Jul 21 21:44 |
| cubexyz | but I think I can adjust it for dcop | Jul 21 21:44 |
| msb__ | you can get qdbus if you need it, right? | Jul 21 21:45 |
| oiaohm | msb__: using trinity yes qdbus is not part of qt3 | Jul 21 21:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I think I've managed to adjust it | Jul 21 21:50 |
| cubexyz | how do I use it? | Jul 21 21:50 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: I found the old p system! p used to be a function in .bashrc -- http://cosmicpenguin.com/p.old.zip | Jul 21 22:05 |
| msb__ | That old one uses xselection | Jul 21 22:05 |
| msb__ | ok, you have two konsoles in two different directories. run mc in each one. | Jul 21 22:06 |
| msb__ | You have p in your path, along with the scripts that it calls. | Jul 21 22:07 |
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| msb__ | In the first directory, you have a file. Put the mc cursor on that file. Type p <alt-enter> | Jul 21 22:09 |
| cubexyz | ok I see $ p xs | Jul 21 22:11 |
| msb__ | go to the konsole in the second directory. Actually it does not have to have mc in it. type cp <middle-mouse-button> . That will copy the file into the second directory. | Jul 21 22:11 |
| msb__ | Yikes, don't be root! | Jul 21 22:12 |
| msb__ | You are experimenting! | Jul 21 22:12 |
| cubexyz | I'm not | Jul 21 22:12 |
| cubexyz | root prompt is # | Jul 21 22:13 |
| msb__ | oh | Jul 21 22:13 |
| msb__ | So it is. My non-root prompt is all fancy, so I don't know what it is! | Jul 21 22:14 |
| cubexyz | hold on a sec | Jul 21 22:15 |
| cubexyz | there's a script called xsel plus there's the command xsel | Jul 21 22:15 |
| msb__ | In the new system? | Jul 21 22:15 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jul 21 22:16 |
| msb__ | you have the xsel script in your path, right. Doesn't giving the command xsel just call that? | Jul 21 22:18 |
| msb__ | If not, where and what is the command xsel? | Jul 21 22:18 |
| cubexyz | xsel is /usr/local/bin/xsel | Jul 21 22:18 |
| cubexyz | but it's also the script name.. I think the first one gets priority | Jul 21 22:19 |
| cubexyz | xsel is the command to manipulate X selection | Jul 21 22:19 |
| msb__ | I don't have /usr/local/bin/xsel | Jul 21 22:19 |
| cubexyz | I may have compiled it | Jul 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | wait, openbsd has it too | Jul 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | so I don't think I did | Jul 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | part of X | Jul 21 22:20 |
| cubexyz | may not be in every distro | Jul 21 22:21 |
| msb__ | I been robbed! I coulda been a billionaire! | Jul 21 22:21 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'll just rename the xsel script | Jul 21 22:21 |
| msb__ | right, and the calls to it | Jul 21 22:21 |
| cubexyz | I think p is the only script that calls xsel (which I will now call xsel1) | Jul 21 22:23 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, xs also calls it | Jul 21 22:24 |
| cubexyz | ok I think it worked | Jul 21 22:25 |
| cubexyz | I've adapted your pfile stuff to dcop | Jul 21 22:25 |
| msb__ | Yay! | Jul 21 22:25 |
| cubexyz | also vim :) | Jul 21 22:25 |
| cubexyz | I can't remember ever using xsel | Jul 21 22:28 |
| msb__ | That's how I work. 20 virtual desktops, purpose oriented. 1-5 konsoles in each one, with mc in them, aimed at the relevant directories for that purpose. p system -- textmode drag-n-drop -- for copying, moving, comparing files between directories. | Jul 21 22:29 |
| msb__ | Does vim do file management? | Jul 21 22:30 |
| cubexyz | there's vifm | Jul 21 22:30 |
| cubexyz | it's actually similar to mc | Jul 21 22:31 |
| msb__ | For older systems, the stuff in p.old.zip should work. Doesn't use klipper (or qdbus) at all. The p function should be a script. | Jul 21 22:34 |
| cubexyz | now theres a third version :) | Jul 21 22:35 |
| msb__ | Great! | Jul 21 22:35 |
| msb__ | Would you please zip up all the scripts and send it to me? | Jul 21 22:35 |
| cubexyz | zip doesn't seem very unixy to me but ok :) | Jul 21 22:36 |
| cubexyz | we can debate the niceties later | Jul 21 22:38 |
| cubexyz | I didn't delete any lines, just commented them out | Jul 21 22:39 |
| cubexyz | so edbuf was changed to ~/.viminfo | Jul 21 22:40 |
| msb__ | Don't mix any of the files from the three versions on the same system. It could cause a chronosynclastic infundibulum. | Jul 21 22:40 |
| cubexyz | since I use vim in mc | Jul 21 22:40 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pfiles-for-kde3.zip | Jul 21 22:41 |
| cubexyz | also xsel should be renamed I think | Jul 21 22:42 |
| cubexyz | which I did | Jul 21 22:42 |
| msb__ | Thanks! | Jul 21 22:43 |
| msb__ | That's almost as dangerous as a polyphase quasitron! | Jul 21 22:44 |
| cubexyz | it's a pity I can't talk to most of my friends about this stuff | Jul 21 22:45 |
| cubexyz | it's blah blah powershell | Jul 21 22:46 |
| oiaohm | I just got 500 megs of space back sometimes debian updating is stupid. Updated wesnorth installed all new campainfiles and left all the version before ones that it was never going to use installed. | Jul 21 22:46 |
| msb__ | It's pretty simple. At least it was before systemd, pulseaudio, and kde4 | Jul 21 22:46 |
| oiaohm | msb__: I would not systemd has been all bad. Something are better. | Jul 21 22:47 |
| cubexyz | I'm probably the biggest traditionalist around here :) | Jul 21 22:47 |
| oiaohm | kde4 I have got use to. | Jul 21 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Windows deploying applications in a large network is hell. | Jul 21 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Windows you have guess the process as well. | Jul 21 22:48 |
| msb__ | I was a pro at PCDOS. XTREE was my favorite tool. I had about 80 categorized utilities. All on a hardshell floppy I'd carry around to jobs. | Jul 21 22:49 |
| msb__ | I still have to stop myself from calling shell script "batch files". | Jul 21 22:49 |
| msb__ | scripts | Jul 21 22:50 |
| cubexyz | see, that's the evil Microsoft influence right there :) | Jul 21 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Here is something super fun I had recently with Windows. | Jul 21 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Hp laptop dead harddrive. | Jul 21 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Guess what no Windows drivers on the HP site and just to be worse generic retail disc does not install. So pay HP dollars to send you a new install set. | Jul 21 22:51 |
| cubexyz | msb__, didn't you use computers before microsoft existed? | Jul 21 22:51 |
| cubexyz | you can remember the golden age | Jul 21 22:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I remember the microbees | Jul 21 22:51 |
| cubexyz | DEC used to be mighty | Jul 21 22:52 |
| cubexyz | now they are gone | Jul 21 22:52 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBee << cubexyz | Jul 21 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MicroBee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 21 22:52 | |
| msb__ | cubexyz: LINC, PDP-8, in high school, something from a cash-register company with a drum but no RAM. | Jul 21 22:53 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, yes there's a kit too for that | Jul 21 22:53 |
| cubexyz | but the snobs want mini-computers | Jul 21 22:55 |
| cubexyz | even though they're power hungry | Jul 21 22:55 |
| msb__ | Had a beautiful front panel for an S100 computer, but never built it. | Jul 21 22:55 |
| msb__ | My first functional home computer was an IBM-PC 8088. | Jul 21 22:56 |
| msb__ | Filled out the RAM, put a 720 track floppy on it, and eventually a 25MB hard drive. | Jul 21 22:57 |
| cubexyz | when did you get into Linux? | Jul 21 22:58 |
| oiaohm | me 1994-1995 | Jul 21 22:59 |
| oiaohm | BSD before that. | Jul 21 22:59 |
| oiaohm | And Unix before that. | Jul 21 22:59 |
| msb__ | Unix in the 90s sometime. Had an account on a UCSF Unix computer, and talked to it with a terminal emulator I wrote in BASIC on the IBMPC. | Jul 21 23:00 |
| cubexyz | a pity you didn't work on PDP-11s | Jul 21 23:01 |
| msb__ | Don't remember what kind of Unix. But I would log out and it would keep on charging me! | Jul 21 23:01 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did you ever work on Vax? | Jul 21 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Australia where I was no such thing. | Jul 21 23:02 |
| oiaohm | Dec alpha yes. | Jul 21 23:02 |
| msb__ | I programmed on PDP-6/10. | Jul 21 23:02 |
| cubexyz | PDP-6... wow I can't even remember those at all | Jul 21 23:02 |
| cubexyz | precessor to PDP-10? | Jul 21 23:03 |
| msb__ | It ran the whole university. Had a live-in engineer. | Jul 21 23:03 |
| msb__ | yep | Jul 21 23:03 |
| cubexyz | predecessor | Jul 21 23:03 |
| cubexyz | I worked on PDP-10 for a while | Jul 21 23:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where I was went from PDP-11 to Aphas completely skipped Vax | Jul 21 23:04 |
| msb__ | two bits of the accumulator was a pc board about 2 foot by 2 foot. | Jul 21 23:04 |
| cubexyz | vector display I think? | Jul 21 23:04 |
| msb__ | Can't remember the (or any) display. | Jul 21 23:05 |
| msb__ | Had 6 teletypes. | Jul 21 23:05 |
| oiaohm | The alpha workstations I missed. | Jul 21 23:06 |
| oiaohm | It was horible going back to a PC from them. | Jul 21 23:06 |
| oiaohm | 32 inch screens 24 bit color and a fairly high res screen 1992 | Jul 21 23:07 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, did you ever run windows on the Dec Alphas? | Jul 21 23:07 |
| oiaohm | No they were all the au types | Jul 21 23:07 |
| oiaohm | So NT would not install even if you wanted to. | Jul 21 23:07 |
| msb__ | I programmed a flying-spot scanner to input nanosecond oscilloscope polaroids into the PDP-6. It ran on a PDP-8, using an oscilloscope and photomultiplier tube. Programmed in assembly on the PDP8 and Fortran on the PDP-6. | Jul 21 23:08 |
| cubexyz | just as well | Jul 21 23:08 |
| oiaohm | I did see NT on straight a | Jul 21 23:08 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it was the most stable I ever saw windows run. | Jul 21 23:08 |
| cubexyz | I guess Alpha is completely dead now | Jul 21 23:09 |
| cubexyz | msb__, from what I understand PDP-6 was very rare | Jul 21 23:10 |
| cubexyz | you're lucky you got a chance to work on one | Jul 21 23:10 |
| msb__ | 36-bit words! | Jul 21 23:12 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Alpha has not even been revived as a fpga. | Jul 21 23:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so Alpha as a design is truly dead. | Jul 21 23:16 |
| cubexyz | compaq killed alpha | Jul 21 23:16 |
| cubexyz | which was bizarre... paved the way for intel to just about take over | Jul 21 23:17 |
| msb__ | Only Fortran on the pdp6. Later SunOS on Sparcs and some kind of 386 Unix box at Stanford. | Jul 21 23:18 |
| cubexyz | there was Sun 386 | Jul 21 23:18 |
| msb__ | did C on those and on my PC. | Jul 21 23:18 |
| msb__ | yup, that was it | Jul 21 23:19 |
| cubexyz | so instead of having Suns and Sparcs and Alphas we have wintel and vista and win8 | Jul 21 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Sparc design is still half alive. | Jul 21 23:21 |
| cubexyz | well not us as such | Jul 21 23:21 |
| cubexyz | we could be running AMD/Linux | Jul 21 23:21 |
| msb__ | exactly what I run | Jul 21 23:21 |
| msb__ | cheap and powerful | Jul 21 23:22 |
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| oiaohm | opensparc what is sparc in fpga exists. | Jul 21 23:22 |
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| msb__ | "yocto" means 10^-24. I doubt that it's _that_ tiny. | Jul 21 23:25 |
| cubexyz | Yocto as in the "Yocto Project" | Jul 21 23:26 |
| cubexyz | Linux for embedded systems | Jul 21 23:26 |
| msb__ | These metric prefixes are starting to sound Yiddish. | Jul 21 23:27 |
| oiaohm | msb__: some of those metric prefixes almost make me thing someone wrote them when they were off their face | Jul 21 23:28 |
| cubexyz | derived from Greek I think | Jul 21 23:29 |
| msb__ | off their face? Does that mean on their ass? | Jul 21 23:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: how it is deried is the issue. | Jul 21 23:30 |
| msb__ | "He's a real yocto goniff!" That's got to mean something insulting in Yiddish. Almost everything in Yiddish is an insult, at least the way my relatives spoke it. | Jul 21 23:30 |
| oiaohm | Zeta how will we derived from this to get ISO word. yep Zetta Almost exactly the same sound. | Jul 21 23:31 |
| cubexyz | all 18th and 19th century gentlemen learned Greek | Jul 21 23:31 |
| cubexyz | probably not now | Jul 21 23:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically ISO metric prefixs are basically people who cannot spell greek to english correctly intentionally. | Jul 21 23:32 |
| msb__ | In San Francisco... oh never mind. | Jul 21 23:32 |
| cubexyz | blame Jan Hendrik van Swinden then | Jul 21 23:33 |
| cubexyz | well, maybe not for Zeta | Jul 21 23:34 |
| cubexyz | oh was it Latin for subdivisions? | Jul 21 23:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, 19th century gentlemen had to learn Latin too | Jul 21 23:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I forgot ISO metric prefixes are derivied at random almost from different langauges. | Jul 21 23:38 |
| cubexyz | metro cattolico :) | Jul 21 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Zetta is Zeta from greek | Jul 21 23:38 |
| oiaohm | So horible mess. | Jul 21 23:38 |
| cubexyz | ah it's a mix then | Jul 21 23:39 |
| cubexyz | Latin, Greek, Spanish and Dano-Norwegian | Jul 21 23:39 |
| msb__ | Yenta! That's what I was thinking of. A gossip. | Jul 21 23:39 |
| oiaohm | Then you have like zebibyte | Jul 21 23:40 |
| msb__ | Well, better than a shiksa or a schvartze. | Jul 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, zetta is from the Latin 'eight' | Jul 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | oops wait | Jul 21 23:40 |
| cubexyz | zetta is latin 'seven' | Jul 21 23:41 |
| cubexyz | it's not consistent | Jul 21 23:41 |
| oiaohm | I knew there was a story. | Jul 21 23:42 |
| oiaohm | with zetta being a screw up. | Jul 21 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Now I remember it is greek to latin where it gets screwed up. | Jul 21 23:42 |
| cubexyz | and we have september as the 9th month, so also odd | Jul 21 23:42 |
| oiaohm | zeta is 6 letter in greek alphabet but someone romans turned that into 7. | Jul 21 23:43 |
| oiaohm | so needing the word zetta | Jul 21 23:43 |
| oiaohm | Now greek roman trade could get confusing because of this. | Jul 21 23:44 |
| oiaohm | Yes both in short form are written z | Jul 21 23:44 |
| cubexyz | petabyte is a bit dubious as well | Jul 21 23:47 |
| cubexyz | peta is Greek for five | Jul 21 23:47 |
| cubexyz | (10^3)^5 | Jul 21 23:47 |
| cubexyz | ok, 1000 to the 5th power | Jul 21 23:49 |
| cubexyz | sounds better :) | Jul 21 23:49 |
| oiaohm | This is the point the more you try to make sense of ISO numbering the more insane it gets. | Jul 21 23:49 |
| oiaohm | No consistancy in method. | Jul 21 23:49 |
| msb__ | XRevan86 turned me on to this great band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leBU07KRA1c | Jul 22 00:04 |
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| oiaohm | Looks like wayland support is going to land in Libreoffice as of 5.0 | Jul 22 00:15 |
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| cubexyz | xsel1 can be used to put stuff on klipper | Jul 22 01:37 |
| cubexyz | alt-enter must be a mc thing | Jul 22 01:38 |
| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/07/21/1836201/california-legislation-may-allow-first-responders-to-take-out-drones | Jul 22 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | California Legislation May Allow First Responders To Take Out Drones - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/n70jr ] | Jul 22 01:39 | |
| oiaohm | This is a what the about usa regulation. | Jul 22 01:39 |
| oiaohm | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/10/aussie-authorities-slam-bushfire-drone-pilots/ | Jul 22 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Aussie Authorities Slam Bushfire Drone Pilots | Gizmodo Australia [ http://ur1.ca/n70l0 ] | Jul 22 01:40 | |
| oiaohm | Australian regulation a bushfire is automatically restricted airspace. | Jul 22 01:40 |
| oiaohm | Anything in restricted airspace without permission can be exterminated by any choosen means. | Jul 22 01:41 |
| oiaohm | If it does not contain a living human. | Jul 22 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes the rule applies to weather balloons, drones and what ever else you can think up. | Jul 22 01:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the Hessling Editor is like IBM XEDIT | Jul 22 01:48 |
| cubexyz | from australia | Jul 22 01:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its short name is THE | Jul 22 01:51 |
| oiaohm | The worse recusrive name ever. "The Hessling Editor"=THE | Jul 22 01:52 |
| cubexyz | don't think it's been updated in quite a while | Jul 22 01:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes I hated using it cubexyz | Jul 22 01:52 |
| oiaohm | 2006 was last update cubexyz | Jul 22 01:53 |
| cubexyz | is there a tarball for that? | Jul 22 01:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes on sourceforge. | Jul 22 01:54 |
| cubexyz | lol | Jul 22 01:54 |
| oiaohm | http://sourceforge.net/projects/hessling-editor/files/hessling-editor/ | Jul 22 01:55 |
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| oiaohm | Ok so there are a few updated versions. | Jul 22 01:55 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I have to switch to russian repo for my "old" openbsd box :) | Jul 22 01:55 |
| oiaohm | Just no releases since 2006 | Jul 22 01:55 |
| oiaohm | But there was a testing version last year. | Jul 22 01:56 |
| cubexyz | what did you not like about it? | Jul 22 01:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my memory mixed with its commands. | Jul 22 01:56 |
| oiaohm | Remember GUI and me get along. | Jul 22 01:56 |
| oiaohm | Heavy command line remembering stacks of options don't get along. | Jul 22 01:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my tastes are not that complex. | Jul 22 01:58 |
| cubexyz | well generally text based programs are simpler than GUI programs | Jul 22 02:02 |
| cubexyz | ncurses programs could have menus | Jul 22 02:02 |
| oiaohm | like nano and mcedit and I don't mind them. | Jul 22 02:02 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, and the name 'the' for a program is just bad | Jul 22 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes I know text based programs can be made simple but why in heck when modern day text terminals support rewriting where ever you like on the screen do we have to be stuck to interfaces like vim.. | Jul 22 02:04 |
| cubexyz | so I search the repos for the word 'the'? :-P | Jul 22 02:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: as I said its the worse one from the age of recusive names. | Jul 22 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Like GNU is fairly bad but "The Hessling Editor"=THE just takes the cake. | Jul 22 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes the author of it refers to it as the and the command to start it is the | Jul 22 02:05 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: guess how much the the editor is when you by mistake paste into a terminal. | Jul 22 02:06 |
| cubexyz | there's japanese vim too :) | Jul 22 02:06 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you run any BSD boxes? | Jul 22 02:07 |
| oiaohm | Not at the moment. | Jul 22 02:07 |
| oiaohm | Was running one about a year and a half ago. | Jul 22 02:08 |
| oiaohm | If I am running bsd or not is more if anyone asks. | Jul 22 02:08 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: Yes, alt-enter is specific to mc AFAIK | Jul 22 02:10 |
| cubexyz | the russian repo site is pretty awesome | Jul 22 02:13 |
| oiaohm | I remembered why I hated alt-enter in mc | Jul 22 02:13 |
| oiaohm | alt-enter happens to be what a lot of virtual machines have aligned to go full screen. | Jul 22 02:13 |
| oiaohm | but at least mc you can reconfigure it. | Jul 22 02:14 |
| cubexyz | pkg_mgr is pretty nice too | Jul 22 02:17 |
| oiaohm | BSD developers do lots of thing right. | Jul 22 02:18 |
| oiaohm | Problem is just they don't get long term hardware support mostly due to the fact the license allows closed source. | Jul 22 02:19 |
| oiaohm | BSD idea of quality merged with Linux licensing mode would have been the best OS ever. | Jul 22 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jul 22 04:38 |
| schestowitz | > what was Hastings driving? Though I gather his exploded prior to the | Jul 22 04:38 |
| schestowitz | > crash. | Jul 22 04:38 |
| schestowitz | His was a Mercedes with computer managing a lot of the car. He was writing an expose about John Brennan at the time, IIRC, and he had contacted Wikileaks' lawyers as he feared they were hunting him down. | Jul 22 04:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: As he died, Hastings rode a Mercedes with computer managing a lot of the car. He was writing an expose about John Brennan at the time. #cia | Jul 22 04:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 9 "Stretch" Alpha 1 Installer Released, | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.0 | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7HOSYS1FT1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7242 | Jul 22 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian 9 "Stretch" Alpha 1 Installer Released, Supports Linux Kernel 4.0 - Softpedia | Jul 22 05:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Current Trends on the Linux Desktop7 Current | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trends on the Linux Desktop | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/emDpsry7Nf (www.datamation.com) | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7243 | Jul 22 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 7 Current Trends on the Linux Desktop - Datamation | Jul 22 05:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny Yocto-ready ARM COM supports industrial | Jul 22 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | temps http://t.co/Nb4tvxEjEr (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny Yocto-ready ARM COM supports industrial temps · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 05:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7244 | Jul 22 05:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introducing the First MATE Edition of | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux - Gallery | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/X4MO5ymiZG (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ab | Jul 22 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Introducing the First MATE Edition of Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux - Gallery - Softpedia | Jul 22 05:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's GTK+ 3.18 to Bring Multiple Mir, | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland, and X11 Improvements | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/W7qw2k18LZ (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ac | Jul 22 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME's GTK+ 3.18 to Bring Multiple Mir, Wayland, and X11 Improvements - Softpedia | Jul 22 05:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The BackBox Team is pleased to announce the | Jul 22 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | updated release of BackBox Linux, the version | Jul 22 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.3!" http://t.co/hUAqrjnJDf (www.backbox.org) | Jul 22 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72ad | Jul 22 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Jul 22 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/064yAJNFdi (fossforce.com) | Jul 22 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72af | Jul 22 05:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.backbox.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 released! | BackBox Linux | Jul 22 05:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Setting Up Shop With KDE's Plasma | FOSS Force | Jul 22 05:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Jul 22 06:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QIOg660xBW (www.v3.co.uk) | Jul 22 06:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review - reviews for UK IT professionals - V3.co.uk | Jul 22 06:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced | Jul 22 06:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Available http://t.co/W1tFiGZKV7 | Jul 22 06:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 22 06:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced Version Available - Softpedia | Jul 22 06:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Jul 22 06:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2YMJyyIyGW (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 22 06:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Linux Journal | Jul 22 06:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Jul 22 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/o8iw653Zzm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 06:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Tux Machines | Jul 22 06:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration | Jul 22 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Jul 22 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/QuKnX1LVqN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 06:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 22 06:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Jul 22 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uxC0VNpLTt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n72io | Jul 22 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up Shop With KDE’s Plasma | Tux Machines | Jul 22 06:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced | Jul 22 08:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Available http://t.co/h92CvlMHWA | Jul 22 08:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced Version Available | Tux Machines | Jul 22 08:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Jul 22 08:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Tux Machines | Jul 22 08:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/BWNJO77WAU | Jul 22 08:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNF 1.0.2 released | Tux Machines | Jul 22 08:07 | |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Glibc-2.22-ARM-NaCl This is getting interesting. | Jul 22 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Glibc 2.22 Will Have NaCl Support For ARMv7-A, Libmvec Vector Math Library - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/n73fx ] | Jul 22 08:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDAB contributions to Qt 5.5 | Jul 22 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDAB contributions to Qt 5.5 | Tux Machines | Jul 22 08:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside | Jul 22 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the OS http://t.co/IcwVasGQon | Jul 22 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside the OS | Tux Machines | Jul 22 08:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phone | Jul 22 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for a month and ended up liking it more than | Jul 22 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/TGVjdPtzVC | Jul 22 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phone for a month and ended up liking it more than Android | Tux Machines | Jul 22 08:43 | |
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| oiaohm | Now if ubuntu phone takes off it will make a joke out of Windows phone in so many ways its not funny. | Jul 22 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 09:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UldGu9I3F4 | Jul 22 09:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unsolicitedbutoffered.blogspot.co.uk | Unsolicited But Offered: What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 09:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/ZC7rwx9b1o | Jul 22 09:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.0.2 released | DNF | Jul 22 09:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside | Jul 22 09:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the OS http://t.co/ql6S1vp9EK | Jul 22 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 Inside the OS - Softpedia | Jul 22 09:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Jul 22 09:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Tux Machines | Jul 22 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More | Jul 22 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Improvements http://t.co/JcQWA9Iyih | Jul 22 09:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop Improvements | Tux Machines | Jul 22 09:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over | Jul 22 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source code discovery | Jul 22 09:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over open-source code discovery | Tux Machines | Jul 22 09:09 | |
| oiaohm | http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-matthew-garrett-says-ubuntu-container-images-are-breaking-copyright-probably-487418.shtml | Jul 22 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CoreOS' Matthew Garrett Says Ubuntu Container Images Are Breaking Copyright, Probably - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/n73zc ] | Jul 22 09:10 | |
| oiaohm | interesting. | Jul 22 09:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a Linux | Jul 22 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kernel problem http://t.co/C7zBTdCJUc | Jul 22 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techreport.com) | Jul 22 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techreport.com | Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a Linux kernel problem - The Tech Report | Jul 22 09:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n740p | Jul 22 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II | Jul 22 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available on Mac, Linux with New Features | Jul 22 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JrwV596mjG | Jul 22 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.escapistmagazine.com) | Jul 22 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.escapistmagazine.com | Star Wars KOTOR II Sith Lords Steam Update Mac Linux | The Escapist | Jul 22 09:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/9sTOX3I0kd | Jul 22 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More | Jul 22 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Improvements http://t.co/iiQojabFI9 | Jul 22 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop Improvements - Softpedia | Jul 22 13:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together | Jul 22 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Again The New Solus http://t.co/KZiEaRBPhM | Jul 22 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together Again | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Jul 22 13:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For | Jul 22 13:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Containers http://t.co/AmiFsqTI8E | Jul 22 13:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Linux.com | Jul 22 13:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu | Jul 22 13:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSes http://t.co/PMPwSxKn6A | Jul 22 13:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - Softpedia | Jul 22 13:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Jul 22 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aMG5Ok77dw (www.techrepublic.com) | Jul 22 13:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux - TechRepublic | Jul 22 13:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Ttqe8RfHzk | Jul 22 13:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For | Jul 22 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Containers http://t.co/cTR279Dgkx | Jul 22 13:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu | Jul 22 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSes http://t.co/TFB33LcmiW | Jul 22 13:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Jul 22 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Jul 22 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Tux Machines | Jul 22 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle | Jul 22 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | SoCs http://t.co/SV8Y4TTTR5 (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle SoCs · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 13:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam for Linux Stable Client Update with Lots | Jul 22 14:08 |
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| MinceR | 163414 < msb__> Great speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLM | Jul 22 14:13 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 14:13 |
| MinceR | i miss the part saying "how can a people be free if they don't want to be free?", though | Jul 22 14:14 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: The only reason people don't want to be free is if they have been programmed (brainwashed) by the media/govt not to want freedom. Or if they have been programmed to think that they already are free when they're not. | Jul 22 14:22 |
| MinceR | i suspect they might have an instinctual tendency for it too | Jul 22 14:23 |
| msb__ | I don't think so, because the govt/media does a huge amount of broadcasting lies to them to make them think they are free. | Jul 22 14:24 |
| msb__ | When Napolitano told the people they are not free, the media immediately fired him. | Jul 22 14:25 |
| MinceR | seemed like fox noise got pissed he dared say that their favorite party was no different or better | Jul 22 14:26 |
| MinceR | and just as complicit in the state of matters | Jul 22 14:26 |
| msb__ | I don't remember him even mentioning the Repugs. | Jul 22 14:27 |
| MinceR | he mentioned two parties | Jul 22 14:27 |
| msb__ | The Dems are a little better, giving people more money to survive on, etc. | Jul 22 14:27 |
| msb__ | But in foreign affairs, wars, etc. both are equally evil. | Jul 22 14:28 |
| msb__ | The brainwashing by media isn't only in the US and England. You must have it in Hungary or people would kick out Orban. | Jul 22 14:29 |
| MinceR | the dems are sometimes willing to compromise on issues that are not particularly important to the sponsors of both parties | Jul 22 14:30 |
| MinceR | afaict | Jul 22 14:30 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It's very hard to realize how much we are lied to unless we read news sources like Global Research, Op-Ed News, Truth-Out, New Eastern Outlook, Russia Today, TeleSUR, Free Critical Thinking | Jul 22 14:38 |
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| MinceR | ironic how you list well known sources of propaganda there | Jul 22 14:38 |
| msb__ | As far as I know they are all accurate. | Jul 22 14:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, as far as you know | Jul 22 14:39 |
| msb__ | I do my best to find out, by comparing them with other sources. | Jul 22 14:39 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Jul 22 14:40 |
| msb__ | If you think they are lying, please give some examples. | Jul 22 14:40 |
| MinceR | RT is an outlet with the primary function of spouting putler's propaganda | Jul 22 14:41 |
| msb__ | What has RT said that is untrue? | Jul 22 14:41 |
| MinceR | pretty much everything they said about ukraine, for example | Jul 22 14:42 |
| msb__ | What exactly? | Jul 22 14:42 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Here's the best article I've seen on Ukraine (but there have been many others from other new sites saying the same thing). Note this is not from RT. | Jul 22 14:47 |
| msb__ | MinceR: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554 | Jul 22 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ] | Jul 22 14:47 | |
| MinceR | yeah, the title is already bullshit | Jul 22 14:47 |
| MinceR | but i can see you love fascism as long as it's russians doing it | Jul 22 14:47 |
| MinceR | why don't you move to russia if you love it so much? | Jul 22 14:47 |
| MinceR | you could even enlist and help them subjugate ukraine, estonia, latvia and lithuania | Jul 22 14:48 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What are you talking about? This article is about what the US did, not Russia. | Jul 22 14:48 |
| MinceR | (or you could just move to hungary and wait until orban arranges an anschluss) | Jul 22 14:48 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What are you talking about? This article is about what the US did, not Russia. | Jul 22 14:48 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about what your idol is doing and which these garbage outlets are supporting with their propaganda | Jul 22 14:48 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about how a few nazis in the ukrainian government make that government nazi, but putler adding a nationalist (and christian fundamentalist) element to the "socialism" of the USSR doesn't make him a nazi | Jul 22 14:49 |
| msb__ | Putin's name doesn't appear anywhere in that article! | Jul 22 14:50 |
| MinceR | but if you love fascism adorned with a red star so much, russia and north korea are waiting for you. | Jul 22 14:50 |
| MinceR | you probably wouldn't be welcome in hungary though, as putin's local buddies have arranged a xenophobic circus here. | Jul 22 14:52 |
| msb__ | You said RT was lying about Ukraine. I disproved you. | Jul 22 14:52 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It was Boris Yeltsin, with total US collaboration, that wrecked the Russian economy, sold off all its assets for 1/10 of their value, and essentially instituted fascism. | Jul 22 14:58 |
| MinceR | except yeltsin wasn't even in power until your beloved marxist ideals wrecked the russian economy | Jul 22 14:58 |
| MinceR | and made the empire collapse | Jul 22 14:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, chapter 11 | Jul 22 14:59 |
| MinceR | that was when the people you love so much finally hauled their asses out of hungary | Jul 22 14:59 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure it's easy to cheerlead for a fascist dictatorship from the other side of the planet | Jul 22 14:59 |
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| MinceR | i bet you would have loved hitler too if he didn't stick "national" in front of "socialism" | Jul 22 15:00 |
| msb__ | Instead of personal attacks, tell me what you don't like about marxist ideals. | Jul 22 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | Oh hey, I'm on the right side of the planet. | Jul 22 15:00 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: Hi! | Jul 22 15:01 |
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| XRevan86 | msb__: hi | Jul 22 15:01 |
| MinceR | for one, i don't like how that idiot considered it plausible that a dictatorship would just give up its power for the sake of a stateless society | Jul 22 15:01 |
| MinceR | that's about as absurd an expectation as they come. | Jul 22 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who are you talking about? | Jul 22 15:01 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: marx | Jul 22 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He said that? | Jul 22 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | When did he? | Jul 22 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | If you mean "dictatorship of the proletariat" then it's totally equal to "dictatorship of the user" in GPL :). | Jul 22 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | At least that analogy is totally legit. | Jul 22 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I know people who call GPL a fascist license so maybe you're right. | Jul 22 15:04 |
| msb__ | I thought Marx/Lenin/Engels said there should be a communist party that would control everyone else, because they understood the right way to do things. | Jul 22 15:04 |
| msb__ | And I disagree with that! | Jul 22 15:04 |
| msb__ | I think there should be real democracy at all levels. | Jul 22 15:05 |
| msb__ | Mondragon works fine without people being forced. | Jul 22 15:05 |
| MinceR | but you somehow believe that the USSR and putin's empire are "real democracies" | Jul 22 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: I hope you don't mean the representative democracy. | Jul 22 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | at least not the one I can see in Russia and US | Jul 22 15:06 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: No, representative democracy is easily corrupted. | Jul 22 15:06 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's a pity his followers apparently understood it as the usual sense of "dictatorship" | Jul 22 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's their problems. | Jul 22 15:06 |
| MinceR | perhaps he should have picked his words more carefully. | Jul 22 15:06 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know how democratic Russia is now. | Jul 22 15:07 |
| MinceR | msb__: afaik it's an oligarchy where putin has leverage over all the oligarchs he allowed to remain, so basically all power is in putin's hands | Jul 22 15:07 |
| msb__ | But what I have said is that Putin is doing a good job of trying to hold off the enormous fascist attacks of the US. | Jul 22 15:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: One likes to toy with words :). | Jul 22 15:07 |
| MinceR | was pussy riot a "fascist attack of the us" too? | Jul 22 15:07 |
| MinceR | msb__: would you like to be jailed for insulting putin's favorite cult? | Jul 22 15:08 |
| msb__ | Putin's attack on Pussy Riot was extremely stupid. | Jul 22 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: How's that? Putin wouldn't want to stop being friends with his bud Kirill the patriarch | Jul 22 15:09 |
| msb__ | Current patriarch of R.O.Church? | Jul 22 15:10 |
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| XRevan86 | msb__: yup | Jul 22 15:11 |
| msb__ | Currently Putin's worst problem is attacks by the US. If most Russians are religious, and distancing himself from the Church would cause him to lose power, then his best choice is probably to stay with the church, stay in power, oppose the US, and join up with the other BRICS nations and Venezuela, etc. | Jul 22 15:14 |
| MinceR | that's ludicrous | Jul 22 15:14 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why? | Jul 22 15:15 |
| MinceR | you excuse anything and everything a dictator does by a handwave and saying that the us attacks them in some way | Jul 22 15:16 |
| MinceR | for you, it's a universal excuse for doing anything | Jul 22 15:16 |
| MinceR | it's like nobody who lives in or near russia mattered except putin and his buddies | Jul 22 15:16 |
| MinceR | apparently "attacking" a dictatorship is the worst crime you can imagine | Jul 22 15:17 |
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| MinceR | apparently human rights and "real democracy" don't matter if you can sacrifice those just to stick it to the US | Jul 22 15:18 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks. Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine? | Jul 22 15:18 |
| MinceR | you really should look into north korea, they seem to match your ideology better. | Jul 22 15:18 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks. | Jul 22 15:18 |
| MinceR | please stop your putler propaganda. | Jul 22 15:19 |
| MinceR | please stop propping up dictatorships | Jul 22 15:19 |
| MinceR | please stop distorting the facts and outright lying for the purpose of propping up dictatorships | Jul 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6373091 | Jul 22 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | “The feature [Uconnect] allows owners to start the car remotely, flash the headlights using an app and unlock doors.” | Jul 22 15:19 |
| schestowitz | That’s what I have been looking for a car, flashing the headlights with an app! Losing brakes is just a minor annoyance. | Jul 22 15:19 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine? | Jul 22 15:19 |
| MinceR | i don't think the us installed a nazi government in ukraine. | Jul 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | putitin | Jul 22 15:20 |
| MinceR | i don't think the government of ukraine is anywhere near as close to being nazis as putler is. | Jul 22 15:20 |
| MinceR | i don't think the government of ukraine is even anywhere near as close to being nazis as orban and his pals are. | Jul 22 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Orban is quite bad | Jul 22 15:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe as bad as the Ukrainian gov. | Jul 22 15:21 |
| schestowitz | which bombs its own cities | Jul 22 15:21 |
| schestowitz | The Russians have some offensive words by which to allude to Ukranians | Jul 22 15:21 |
| MinceR | and i don't think that holding a "referendum" at gunpoint is "real democracy". | Jul 22 15:22 |
| MinceR | they probably had such words even before the holodomor | Jul 22 15:22 |
| schestowitz | that would be crimea | Jul 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | putitin is evil | Jul 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | but he hasn't a monopoly on being evil | Jul 22 15:23 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 15:23 |
| schestowitz | the french and us did that in haiti, I think | Jul 22 15:23 |
| MinceR | there's a lot of evil on this world | Jul 22 15:23 |
| MinceR | and if two factions oppose each other, one faction being clearly evil doesn't make the other one good | Jul 22 15:23 |
| MinceR | many people lack the mental capability to understand this fact | Jul 22 15:23 |
| MinceR | hence hungarians supporting fidesz for the sole reason that they're convinced mszp is evil | Jul 22 15:24 |
| MinceR | (which they probably are, but it doesn't follow.) | Jul 22 15:24 |
| MinceR | russia opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good. | Jul 22 15:24 |
| MinceR | north korea opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good. | Jul 22 15:25 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: So Putitin attacked Pussy. That's pretty good! | Jul 22 15:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, down with everyone who attacks religion | Jul 22 15:25 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 22 15:25 |
| *MinceR seems to remember some things msb__ said about "JCI religion" | Jul 22 15:25 | |
| *MinceR wonders what putin would think about those things | Jul 22 15:25 | |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please try to remember: I have never said that Putin is the ideal leader. But the US has destroyed Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya and murdered more than 2,000,000 people since 2001. | Jul 22 15:28 |
| MinceR | the US has also upheld the principles of democracy to a greater degree than russia ever has. | Jul 22 15:29 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Putin and others are trying to stop that with economic alliances and by protecting Russians in east Ukraine. | Jul 22 15:29 |
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| MinceR | no, they're trying no such things | Jul 22 15:29 |
| MinceR | putin is trying to re-establish the russian empire | Jul 22 15:29 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No. Democracy in the US is nearly a total fraud. | Jul 22 15:29 |
| MinceR | msb__: democracy in russia is a total fraud. | Jul 22 15:30 |
| MinceR | there still is some freedom of speech in the US and it's at least considered in words to be a good idea. | Jul 22 15:30 |
| MinceR | in russia, there's brutal censorship | Jul 22 15:30 |
| MinceR | the us has a two-party system. russia has a one-party system. | Jul 22 15:31 |
| msb__ | Both US parties are run by wealthy oligarchs. | Jul 22 15:32 |
| MinceR | russia is run by wealthy oligarchs controlled by putin. | Jul 22 15:32 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: How democratic is Russia? Is there freedom of speech? | Jul 22 15:32 |
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| MinceR | msb__: you could test it by saying the truth about christianity publicly on russian soil. :> | Jul 22 15:33 |
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| MinceR | msb__: you might also want to look into how russia and the us tolerates homosexuals | Jul 22 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: Not much. No, there is no freedom of speech. | Jul 22 15:34 |
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| MinceR | XRevan86: do russians speak of freedom of speech as if it were an important value for them and their country? | Jul 22 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People stopped caring about anything a long time ago. | Jul 22 15:36 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: Has Putin improved the Russian economy over the way Yeltsin left it? | Jul 22 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: He did. | Jul 22 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | It sucks much less now. | Jul 22 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: I have a PC you know :D. | Jul 22 15:45 |
| msb__ | How big is your display? | Jul 22 15:46 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: 20'' | Jul 22 15:46 |
| msb__ | Good! | Jul 22 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jul 22 15:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Tux Machines | Jul 22 15:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M release date, name, version number | Jul 22 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and new features: What's new in Android M | Jul 22 15:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Android M UK release date, new features: Android M Developer Preview - New Product - PC Advisor | Jul 22 15:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone | Jul 22 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starts with the Uno http://t.co/fDF3ZQwdzV | Jul 22 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jul 22 16:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77y1 | Jul 22 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone starts with the Uno | The Verge | Jul 22 16:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There's a secret feature in Android phones that | Jul 22 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | will let you prank your friends | Jul 22 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/yfEf4jLdgW (uk.businessinsider.com) | Jul 22 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | How to slow down an Android phone - Business Insider | Jul 22 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77y2 | Jul 22 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android | Jul 22 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.1 Lollipop Launched http://t.co/TRKzPwfj9p | Jul 22 16:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n77y4 | Jul 22 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android 5.1 Lollipop Launched | NDTV Gadgets | Jul 22 16:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony's 'Android concept' will give some Xperia | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Z3 owners a preview of what's to come | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GFIbSojD15 (error) | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n783s | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DCM Closes Second Android Fund With $100 | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Million http://t.co/1WvK3LdszB (techcrunch.com) | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n783u | Jul 22 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | DCM Closes Second Android Fund With $100 Million | TechCrunch | Jul 22 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Is there a market or even a need for Android | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs? http://t.co/hdQzJqyDqY (www.slashgear.com) | Jul 22 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Is there a market or even a need for Android PCs? - SlashGear | Jul 22 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | depends on the user. I know some for whom it'll | Jul 22 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | be enough | Jul 22 16:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | starts with the Uno http://t.co/OlWysNC8sk | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7870 | Jul 22 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubik's quest to build your dream Android phone starts with the Uno | Tux Machines | Jul 22 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.1 Lollipop Launched http://t.co/0NoYze1tYu | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7872 | Jul 22 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Honor 4A With 5-Inch Display, Android 5.1 Lollipop Launched | Tux Machines | Jul 22 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Is there a market or even a need for Android | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCs? http://t.co/lrnmxSTqKK | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7873 | Jul 22 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is there a market or even a need for Android PCs? | Tux Machines | Jul 22 16:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/124752050212/a-wise-man-observed-that-wealth-is-a-tool-of#_=_ | Jul 22 16:45 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: I don't understand that comic. Calvin is the kid, so the blind bully is Muad'Dib? But Muad'Dib is the spiritual hero of Dune. | Jul 22 17:10 |
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| MinceR | no, calvin is muad'dib | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Ttqe8RfHzk | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 22 17:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7877 | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach & Clear | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games, Interstellaria And TIS-100 Now On GOG | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux https://t.co/dAFjOKtHNy | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 22 17:11 |
| MinceR | though occasionally hobbes is muad'dib instead | Jul 22 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78iy | Jul 22 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach & Clear Games, Interstellaria And TIS-100 Now On GOG For Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jul 22 17:11 | |
| MinceR | like here: http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/96920417284/every-sense-you-possess-is-an-instrument-for#_=_ | Jul 22 17:12 |
| MinceR | except i'm not sure if that's muad'dib | Jul 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | looks like both are Leto II | Jul 22 17:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 22 17:13 |
| msb__ | I love Calvin & Hobbes and Dune, but that combination of them doesn't make a lot of sense, except as a lawsuit waiting to happen. | Jul 22 17:17 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, xchat was flashing but I can't see any message | Jul 22 17:17 |
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| MinceR | i think it's nice | Jul 22 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: You're still using xchat instead of a living fork? :) | Jul 22 17:18 |
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| cubexyz | XRevan86, sometimes I use ircii on quasijarus | Jul 22 17:19 |
| MinceR | and they did got harrassed with a DMCA "notification" | Jul 22 17:19 |
| cubexyz | what fork? | Jul 22 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: HexChat | Jul 22 17:19 |
| MinceR | shit like that is killing our culture | Jul 22 17:19 |
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| cubexyz | XRevan86, did you know that yandex has working repos for openbsd 2.0? | Jul 22 17:20 |
| cubexyz | pretty cool | Jul 22 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: You mean mirrors? | Jul 22 17:20 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, I guess | Jul 22 17:21 |
| cubexyz | what's the difference? | Jul 22 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Not an original content %) | Jul 22 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: mirror.yandex.ru is pretty cool, yeah. | Jul 22 17:21 |
| MinceR | i wonder what backdoors they build in there | Jul 22 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how much did they pay for hacking GPG keys. | Jul 22 17:21 |
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| cubexyz | well I suppose it's possible | Jul 22 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Testing Fedora Cloud image with | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd-networkd http://t.co/DhNEnophMy | Jul 22 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Testing Fedora Cloud image with systemd-networkd | Jul 22 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (kushaldas.in) | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78o9 | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8R7sPB4AY0 (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78ob | Jul 22 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer - Tizen Experts | Jul 22 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another digest from Polariland | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1RZDXV1WsP (blogs.gnome.org) | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78oc | Jul 22 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2015/07/22/another-digest-from-polariland/ ) | Jul 22 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME To Do 3.17.4 http://t.co/SjoFv45qal | Jul 22 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | GNOME To Do 3.17.4 | Georges Stavracas | Jul 22 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (feaneron.com) | Jul 22 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78oe | Jul 22 17:25 |
| MinceR | i suppose if it has valid signatures from the openbsd team then it's probably legit | Jul 22 17:26 |
| cubexyz | looks like the Saudia Arabian mirror is the same | Jul 22 17:26 |
| cubexyz | almost every mirror dumped 4.7 | Jul 22 17:28 |
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| cubexyz | Costa Rica has back to 4.3 | Jul 22 17:29 |
| cubexyz | 4.7 is only 2010, it's not that old | Jul 22 17:30 |
| cubexyz | I think lftp can calculate how big a directory is | Jul 22 17:36 |
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| cubexyz | 27 gigs? | Jul 22 17:38 |
| cubexyz | yes, it must be about that | Jul 22 17:39 |
| cubexyz | of course that's just i386 | Jul 22 17:40 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if vax is any different in size | Jul 22 17:41 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: MinceR: Here is a long article by some Russians about Putin's strategy regarding Ukraine. Of course they consider the US-backed coup in Ukraine to have installed a Nazi government, as do all alternative news services. http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=14600 | Jul 22 17:42 |
| MinceR | what do they consider putin? | Jul 22 17:42 |
| msb__ | A leader doing his best to oppose US aggression. | Jul 22 17:42 |
| cubexyz | vax is less than 1 gig | Jul 22 17:43 |
| MinceR | interesting how they do not see the nazi in their own home | Jul 22 17:45 |
| MinceR | then again, there are millions of such idiots in hungary, too | Jul 22 17:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: you do know that the Nazi govt in Ukraine shot down that Malaysian airliner, right? | Jul 22 17:45 |
| cubexyz | well windows is the most "popular" OS | Jul 22 17:45 |
| MinceR | i do know that putler and his fans claim they did | Jul 22 17:45 |
| cubexyz | that wouldn't happen unless people were lazy or stupid | Jul 22 17:45 |
| cubexyz | no firefox, no wesnoth, no openoffice for vax | Jul 22 17:47 |
| cubexyz | so it's way smaller | Jul 22 17:48 |
| msb__ | There are pictures of metal pieces of the plane showing punctures coming from both sides. That can only have been from cannon fire from the two Ukrainian fighter jets that peoiple saw on both sides of the jetliner. Shrapnel from a Russian missile would have made holes coming only from one direction. | Jul 22 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Jul 22 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/LpJptDF83O (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 22 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78xc | Jul 22 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Tux Machines | Jul 22 17:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, | Jul 22 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | needs your help http://t.co/BMquLDOxth | Jul 22 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mitya57.me) | Jul 22 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mitya57.me | GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, needs your help - mitya57’s weblog | Jul 22 17:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n78xe | Jul 22 17:48 |
| MinceR | tell us about 9/11 too, please | Jul 22 17:49 |
| cubexyz | it's better we stick to tech stuff | Jul 22 17:49 |
| MinceR | yeah, it would be better | Jul 22 17:49 |
| MinceR | but msb__ insists on supporting his favorite dictator regularly | Jul 22 17:49 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Sure: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 Five excellent videos plus my own pages. | Jul 22 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Jul 22 17:51 | |
| msb__ | MinceR: Please stop the personal attacks. | Jul 22 17:51 |
| MinceR | msb__: please stop the bullshit. | Jul 22 17:52 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What bullshit? | Jul 22 17:52 |
| MinceR | mainly the one about putler | Jul 22 17:52 |
| MinceR | but also the one about 9/11, chemtrails and reptilians | Jul 22 17:53 |
| msb__ | MinceR: What bullshit about Putin? | Jul 22 17:53 |
| MinceR | there are enough real issues without inventing fake ones | Jul 22 17:53 |
| MinceR | that he's a democrat, that he supports freedom of speech and other human rights, that opposing the usa justifies oppressing one's own people and taking over nearby countries | Jul 22 17:53 |
| MinceR | the usual bullshit. | Jul 22 17:54 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never said any such things. I've only said that Putin is doing a good job of trying to block US aggression, which has murdered millions of people. | Jul 22 17:55 |
| MinceR | that's like saying hitler did a good job of trying to block allied aggression by having the people murdered himself instead | Jul 22 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bad analogy that is. | Jul 22 17:56 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jul 22 17:56 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never advocated the existence of reptilians either. Where did you come up with that? | Jul 22 17:57 |
| MinceR | i expected that to follow, in the usual progression of lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit | Jul 22 17:57 |
| msb__ | MinceR: As to 9/11 and chemtrails, if you claim they are fake, you simply don't know what you are talking about. | Jul 22 17:58 |
| MinceR | also, before you start mouthing off about who killed how many millions, i recommend looking up the stats for some of your idols. | Jul 22 17:58 |
| MinceR | like stalin and mao zedong. | Jul 22 17:58 |
| msb__ | MinceR: They are not my idols at all. | Jul 22 17:58 |
| MinceR | i can tell. | Jul 22 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: US govt surely did that. | Jul 22 17:59 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: oh, that's fine, that completely excuses north korea, then. | Jul 22 17:59 |
| MinceR | oh wait, it fucking doesn't. | Jul 22 17:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who says anything about North Korea? | Jul 22 17:59 |
| MinceR | the same "hurr durr they're opposing the usa, the only remaining evil left in our world" narrative applies | Jul 22 18:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @btcrs favourited 'Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach &...' | Jul 22 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android M: 5 small but important features | Jul 22 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you’re going to love http://t.co/zlNIO9G3z6 | Jul 22 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (bgr.com) | Jul 22 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android M best features, tricks | BGR | Jul 22 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n791s | Jul 22 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: NK is like the worst. | Jul 22 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier | Jul 22 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Grade Linux http://t.co/c9oMLzng0Y | Jul 22 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier Grade Linux · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 22 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jul 22 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n791w | Jul 22 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And pretty weak as well :) | Jul 22 18:01 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: the same applies to russia. | Jul 22 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Only to some very limited extent. | Jul 22 18:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I have never said that the US is the only evil remaining in the world. But, along with the Islamic psychopaths it is arming and supporting, it is murdering far more people than any other entity. | Jul 22 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | US is the most successful evil in the world. | Jul 22 18:03 |
| msb__ | Yes! | Jul 22 18:03 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i've seen what it would be like if russia was more successful than the us | Jul 22 18:03 |
| MinceR | so i'm glad russia isn't. | Jul 22 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Jul 22 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kqpiQttvxp (www.linuxinsider.com) | Jul 22 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7934 | Jul 22 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Smartphones | LinuxInsider | Jul 22 18:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jul 22 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lO680FXQ0I (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 22 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7936 | Jul 22 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux Journal | Jul 22 18:04 | |
| cubexyz | I feel I should point out that the USA also invented Unix | Jul 22 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wichita State group recruits young computer | Jul 22 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | users to Linux system http://t.co/iypvgIm6Dr | Jul 22 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kansas.com | Wichita State group recruits young computer users to Linux system | The Wichita Eagle | Jul 22 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.kansas.com) | Jul 22 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7938 | Jul 22 18:04 |
| cubexyz | and DEC PDP-11 | Jul 22 18:04 |
| cubexyz | so they did good things as well | Jul 22 18:04 |
| MinceR | i feel i should point out that the greatest IT accomplishments of the USSR were copying some usian computers | Jul 22 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I thought it's K&R :) | Jul 22 18:04 |
| cubexyz | not K&R | Jul 22 18:04 |
| MinceR | and that i couldn't even be a software engineer if the empire of those barbarians hadn't collapsed. | Jul 22 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not true. | Jul 22 18:04 |
| cubexyz | Thompson and Ritchie | Jul 22 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: USSR failed at IT exactly when it started copying US. | Jul 22 18:05 |
| cubexyz | K&R wrote the C book | Jul 22 18:05 |
| MinceR | and that i would be considered an "enemy of the system" because i'm highly educated. | Jul 22 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: right | Jul 22 18:05 |
| cubexyz | still important of course | Jul 22 18:05 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: why did they copy the US, then? | Jul 22 18:06 |
| MinceR | (hint, hint) | Jul 22 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Because Hrusshev was Hrusshev. | Jul 22 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | Hrusŝev | Jul 22 18:06 |
| cubexyz | at least Canada can take some credit for OpenBSD | Jul 22 18:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapid | Jul 22 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubernetes deployments http://t.co/KzVgKeQlVd | Jul 22 18:07 |
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| XRevan86 | Why did I put that "s" there? | Jul 22 18:07 |
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| XRevan86 | Did I forget how to pronounce Russian? :D | Jul 22 18:07 |
| cubexyz | how often do those links get posted? | Jul 22 18:07 |
| MinceR | Хрущёв | Jul 22 18:08 |
| msb__ | XRevan86: I thought you were coughing. | Jul 22 18:08 |
| cubexyz | it seems like it's every 10 minutes | Jul 22 18:08 |
| *cubexyz pulls out the chronograph | Jul 22 18:08 | |
| MinceR | msb__: you obviously don't know your history. | Jul 22 18:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I wonder how to show that "ё" in English | Jul 22 18:08 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe like "Hrushov" | Jul 22 18:08 |
| MinceR | in the usual english orthography, they just pretend it's the same as e | Jul 22 18:08 |
| MinceR | so they write Khrushchev | Jul 22 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, that's correct: sh is soft in English, I constantly forget about that. | Jul 22 18:09 |
| cubexyz | how do they refer to Unix in Russia? Do they just use the english word? | Jul 22 18:09 |
| MinceR | (since ё is just a special case of a stressed 'e') | Jul 22 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Of course. | Jul 22 18:09 |
| MinceR | well, the language of IT is english | Jul 22 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "ё" is not a special case of "е" | Jul 22 18:09 |
| MinceR | then my russian teacher was wrong or lying | Jul 22 18:10 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://translate.google.com/#ru/ru/ель%2C%20ёлка | Jul 22 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/n7960 ] | Jul 22 18:10 | |
| msb__ | You Russians and Hungarians spend so much time obsessing over accented and substituted letters. Speak English! It's much simpler! | Jul 22 18:11 |
| msb__ | Down with UTF-8! | Jul 22 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | msb__: Russian is so much more strict on pronouncing | Jul 22 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | guess why Russian doesn't have many accents :) | Jul 22 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | And those that exist English would hardly consider. | Jul 22 18:12 |
| cubexyz | IT isn't totally english based | Jul 22 18:13 |
| cubexyz | APL uses Greek characters | Jul 22 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It pretty much is. | Jul 22 18:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm trying hard to think of another example :) | Jul 22 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | except for freaky cases :) | Jul 22 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 99.9% English-based | Jul 22 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | not totally, yeah :D | Jul 22 18:13 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, ok :) | Jul 22 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | oh wait | Jul 22 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | 99.5% | Jul 22 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | there is 1C | Jul 22 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | A very popular Russian accounting thing | Jul 22 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | it has a built-in programming language | Jul 22 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | and it's Russian-based | Jul 22 18:14 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%81 | Jul 22 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Yo (Cyrillic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 22 18:14 | |
| MinceR | "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable." | Jul 22 18:14 |
| cubexyz | some sort of spreadsheet? | Jul 22 18:14 |
| MinceR | "The letter Yo is the seventh letter of the alphabet, but although it indicates a distinct sound from Ye, it is often, but not always, treated as the same letter for purposes of alphabetisation and sorting." | Jul 22 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | > it indicates a distinct sound from Ye | Jul 22 18:15 |
| MinceR | "Except for a brief period after World War II, the use of ⟨ё⟩ was never obligatory in standard Russian orthography. By and large, it is used only in dictionaries and in pedagogical literature intended for children and students of Russian as a second language, Otherwise ⟨е⟩ is used, and ⟨ё⟩ occurs only when it is necessary to avoid ambiguity" | Jul 22 18:15 |
| msb__ | We're a simple culture here in the US, derived from ex-cons and religious idiots. Kill! Eat! Fuck! That's all we do. | Jul 22 18:15 |
| cubexyz | genetics :) | Jul 22 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "ё" is still different from "е" very much as you can see. | Jul 22 18:16 |
| msb__ | yep! | Jul 22 18:16 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i didn't say they were the exact same thing, though | Jul 22 18:16 |
| MinceR | msb__: you forgot "Hate" | Jul 22 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A different sound | Jul 22 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | so Hrushov and Hrushev does not sound the same | Jul 22 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | do* | Jul 22 18:16 |
| msb__ | Our neighbors to the north at least have the benefit of some beaver and moose genes. | Jul 22 18:16 |
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| MinceR | the same article also mentions the weirdness in the spelling of Khrushchev and Gorbachev in english | Jul 22 18:17 |
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| XRevan86 | > stressed | Jul 22 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | (01:14:48) MinceR: "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable." | Jul 22 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I misunderstood you -_- | Jul 22 18:17 |
| MinceR | i suspected it | Jul 22 18:18 |
| cubexyz | ALGOL 68 allows internationalization of the language | Jul 22 18:18 |
| MinceR | but hopefully we're on the same page now | Jul 22 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But I know how to call "udarenie" in English :) | Jul 22 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | now | Jul 22 18:18 |
| MinceR | (i wasn't even sure "stressed" is the right term) | Jul 22 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | Now I don't :D | Jul 22 18:18 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 22 18:18 |
| cubexyz | so there's Cyrillic ALGOL 68 :) | Jul 22 18:18 |
| MinceR | m$ excel also translates the function names, at least in the hungarian version, which is insane | Jul 22 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If you'll manage to find this thing in 2015… | Jul 22 18:19 |
| MinceR | but it's the sort of insanity one would expect from m$ | Jul 22 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It does indeed. | Jul 22 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | LibreOffice Calc doesn't do that thankfully. | Jul 22 18:19 |
| cubexyz | and of course there's symbol based languages | Jul 22 18:20 |
| MinceR | indeed, neither does gnumeric | Jul 22 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | Funny observation: the only establishment I've been in that has stupidly smiling cashiers is McDonalds. | Jul 22 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently it's their policy. | Jul 22 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | Don't ask what I did there. | Jul 22 18:23 |
| cubexyz | well working at McDonalds must be rather stupefying | Jul 22 18:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 22 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | What I want to ask is: is this thing a norm in US? | Jul 22 18:24 |
| cubexyz | I remember one time ordering a drink at the drive-thru and they asked me if I wanted a drink with that | Jul 22 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | Constantly smiling cashiers | Jul 22 18:24 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: lol | Jul 22 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: One drink is never enough :) | Jul 22 18:25 |
| MinceR | i think there's at least one kind of coffee that's traditionally drank with some other drink (probably water) | Jul 22 18:26 |
| MinceR | plus there's Klatchian coffee on Discworld :> | Jul 22 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | Because I don't trust these smiles at all. And so I see lies instead of trustworthiness. | Jul 22 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | and from what I know, nobody does :) | Jul 22 18:27 |
| cubexyz | just imagine a smiling Bill Gates telling you to trust Microsoft :) | Jul 22 18:27 |
| MinceR | i don't see any reason to decide whether to trust them, they're largely irrelevant | Jul 22 18:27 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty simple deal: they get money, i get food | Jul 22 18:27 |
| cubexyz | "do you want fries with that?" | Jul 22 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But they want me to think something. | Jul 22 18:28 |
| cubexyz | I never go there nowadays | Jul 22 18:28 |
| cubexyz | yes damn it, I want extra fries with my fries and a drink with my drink | Jul 22 18:28 |
| msb__ | Corporations have only one obligation: maximize the profits of their shareholders. So they are the economic equivalents of psychopaths. | Jul 22 18:29 |
| MinceR | those are public corporations | Jul 22 18:30 |
| MinceR | private corporations are not obligated to be evil | Jul 22 18:30 |
| msb__ | A bit of an exaggeration. They aren't all evil. | Jul 22 18:30 |
| MinceR | i thought we were talking about legal obligations to be evil, not actual evilness :> | Jul 22 18:33 |
| msb__ | MinceR: You consider some information, like 9-11 and chemtrail/HAARP research, to be "lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit" simply because it differs from mainstream beliefs. But many people would consider your support of Linux, and especially your detailed opposition to systemd, to be "nutcase bullshit". But you and we know that it isn't. In a world where most people are programmed to live within "The Matrix", differing from | Jul 22 18:47 |
| msb__ | mainstream thought is not a reliable indicator of falsity. That's why critical thinking requires accessing information that differs from your present beliefs. | Jul 22 18:47 |
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| cubexyz | people are overly passive | Jul 22 19:09 |
| MinceR | msb__: no, the point is not what is mainstream and what isn't. | Jul 22 19:12 |
| MinceR | msb__: has it ever occurred to you that "mainstream thought" is not the only thing that critical thinking can debunk? | Jul 22 19:13 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Of course. It is the key to _accurate_ thinking. | Jul 22 19:14 |
| MinceR | for example, i've seen and considered both sides of the 9/11 debate. | Jul 22 19:15 |
| msb__ | Have you watched all 5 videos linked on my homepage? | Jul 22 19:16 |
| MinceR | no | Jul 22 19:16 |
| msb__ | I think you should. You are obviously a very smart guy. I think they will convince you. | Jul 22 19:17 |
| msb__ | The govt story of 9-11 falls apart in many different ways. | Jul 22 19:19 |
| MinceR | so does the most loudly promoted conspiracy theory. | Jul 22 19:20 |
| msb__ | Which is? | Jul 22 19:20 |
| MinceR | especially in assuming unforeseen competence in the government when it comes to keeping stuff secret | Jul 22 19:20 |
| MinceR | missiles, controlled demolition, thermite, stuff like that | Jul 22 19:21 |
| cubexyz | does motif mwm have a way to run a program not on the menu? | Jul 22 19:24 |
| msb__ | Current thought is that missiles were not involved. All three WTC buildings -- 1, 2, and 7 -- meet all the criteria for controlled demolition, and steel-frame buildings simply do not fall down from cool smoky fires.. The thermite flakes were found in dust samples and chemically analyzed by several different techniques, and shown to burn like thermite. | Jul 22 19:25 |
| MinceR | who placed the demolition charges and when? how were they not noticed? how did they have time to do that in secret? | Jul 22 19:26 |
| MinceR | the steel frame sagging due to the heat (it didn't melt and it didn't have to melt) and pancaking floors is a much simpler explanation of the evidence i've seen. | Jul 22 19:27 |
| msb__ | The charges were built in when the buildings were constructed. The detonators were added shortly before 9-11. http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/#CORES | Jul 22 19:29 |
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| MinceR | who the hell builds an office building with built-in explosives? | Jul 22 19:30 |
| MinceR | and how the hell does such an incompetent government keep that in secret? | Jul 22 19:30 |
| msb__ | "Simpler" doesn't necessarily mean correct. | Jul 22 19:30 |
| MinceR | this is an incredibly unlikely hypothesis. | Jul 22 19:30 |
| MinceR | a simpler explanation is more likely to be true. | Jul 22 19:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor | Jul 22 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Occam's razor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n79xd ] | Jul 22 19:31 | |
| msb__ | Please read the evidence I've directed you to. | Jul 22 19:31 |
| msb__ | Of course I know about Occam's Razor. So does the US government. | Jul 22 19:31 |
| msb__ | They rely on people believing it absolutely. "The buildings fell because planes hit them, you idiot!" | Jul 22 19:32 |
| MinceR | i'm definitely not going to take on the obligation to wade through such a mass of such badly presented material this week. | Jul 22 19:32 |
| MinceR | "fact" 1 ignores the amount of air present between floors | Jul 22 19:33 |
| msb__ | How? | Jul 22 19:34 |
| MinceR | a floor falling on top of another (due to the steel supports holding them apart losing most of their strength) would expel the air between them | Jul 22 19:35 |
| MinceR | hence, sideways force. | Jul 22 19:36 |
| msb__ | There were no cannon barrels to direct the compressed air to the 10-ton girders in order to propel them horizontally at 70 miles/hour. | Jul 22 19:37 |
| MinceR | there was furniture, though | Jul 22 19:37 |
| MinceR | and interior walls | Jul 22 19:37 |
| msb__ | So? | Jul 22 19:37 |
| MinceR | those could have helped focus the force on the occasional girder. | Jul 22 19:38 |
| msb__ | How? By magic? | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | no, physics | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | fact 3 is interesting -- i've heard other conspiracy theories _expecting_ molten metal and _denying_ it was present | Jul 22 19:39 |
| msb__ | Have you taken courses in physics? Are you familiar with F=ma? | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | i have. | Jul 22 19:39 |
| MinceR | and you're removing my interest in this subject currently. | Jul 22 19:40 |
| msb__ | How? | Jul 22 19:40 |
| msb__ | How could furniture or wallboard focus compressed air on a ten-ton girder to accelerate it to 70mph? | Jul 22 19:43 |
| MinceR | that only depends on the pressure and amount of air | Jul 22 19:43 |
| msb__ | It also depends on the air not being able to flow in many other directions, instead of pressing only on the girder. | Jul 22 19:45 |
| msb__ | That | Jul 22 19:45 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 19:45 |
| msb__ | That's why cannons are cylinders open only at one end. | Jul 22 19:45 |
| MinceR | though even that would only reduce the pressure | Jul 22 19:45 |
| msb__ | yes -- indeed | Jul 22 19:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: If I go to the effort of figuring out the units for a ten ton girder being accelerated to 70mph, and it turns out to be an impossibly high pressure, will you promise to view all 5 videos, and read the linked pages on Chris Brown's site? | Jul 22 19:49 |
| MinceR | i won't promise that | Jul 22 19:49 |
| MinceR | also it seems to me that the different sides claim different evidence is present, and i have no way of figuring out which is correct. | Jul 22 19:50 |
| msb__ | That's where an understanding of physics comes in. And critical thinking. | Jul 22 19:52 |
| MinceR | i see here a video that claims explosions were heard. i do not wish to listen to it at this time | Jul 22 19:53 |
| MinceR | i've seen a video where they weren't heard. | Jul 22 19:53 |
| MinceR | since i wasn't there, there's no way for me to determine which is true. | Jul 22 19:54 |
| msb__ | Do you think somebody faked the video? What about the fireman imitating the explosion sounds? | Jul 22 19:55 |
| cubexyz | how was WTC heated? | Jul 22 19:56 |
| MinceR | well, either one of them is interpreted incorrectly, or both are; or one of them is fake, or both are | Jul 22 19:57 |
| msb__ | Genghis Khan and the Mongol Hordes had cannons. But that was in 1215AD. I thought they were much older. Anyhow, they used cylindrical cannon barrels, not gunpowder, a cannon ball and some random furniture. | Jul 22 19:57 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: by cold fusion | Jul 22 19:58 |
| MinceR | that would be because the furniture approach would be very inefficient for this purpose | Jul 22 19:58 |
| MinceR | that doesn't mean it can't happen, it means you can accomplish the same ends with far less resources if that's your intent. | Jul 22 19:59 |
| msb__ | Yes, and even less efficient for a ten ton girder! | Jul 22 19:59 |
| MinceR | also, what is our source for the girder being embedded into an adjacent building or whatever it was embedded into? | Jul 22 19:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Only if The Force you can harness! | Jul 22 19:59 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I don't know off hand. But their speed can be measured from the video. | Jul 22 20:01 |
| MinceR | only if you know their distance from the camera | Jul 22 20:01 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: the question has never come up. Probably electric heating. | Jul 22 20:01 |
| cubexyz | msb__, I think they used steam | Jul 22 20:02 |
| cubexyz | not positive though | Jul 22 20:02 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No, you know the width of the building and the distance between floors. | Jul 22 20:02 |
| MinceR | also, the claim about the C4-"like" plastic is suspicious | Jul 22 20:02 |
| msb__ | I trust Chris, and a few other people recall seeing the video also. | Jul 22 20:03 |
| msb__ | There's no reason why an anti-corrosion coating would be extremely flammable. | Jul 22 20:04 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jul 22 20:04 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, heating it may release some nasty, toxic fumes | Jul 22 20:04 |
| msb__ | The welders would just place some kind of heat sink between the weld and the coating (which would not extend to the ends of the rebars). | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | that would help in the 'fumes' case | Jul 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | then again, i'm not in any way trained for welding | Jul 22 20:07 |
| msb__ | and it would keep the plastique from catching fire. | Jul 22 20:07 |
| MinceR | also, a chemical compound being "like" another does not mean it behaves similarly | Jul 22 20:08 |
| msb__ | You know that C4 doesn't explode if you just light it. You have to use a detonator to create a highspeed shockwave. | Jul 22 20:08 |
| MinceR | yeah, i faintly remember something like that | Jul 22 20:09 |
| msb__ | Using a primary explosive instead of a secondary one in that application would be ridiculously stupid. | Jul 22 20:09 |
| msb__ | I read that GIs would sometimes light a cube of C4 to cook their dinner. | Jul 22 20:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 22 20:10 |
| MinceR | and indeed C-4 contains synthetic rubber as a binder, but that's not explosive | Jul 22 20:12 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_%28explosive%29 | Jul 22 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | C-4 (explosive) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n7a9z ] | Jul 22 20:12 | |
| msb__ | Fried Spam tastes pretty good, actually. | Jul 22 20:12 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 22 20:12 |
| MinceR | i've had fried luncheon meat (not spam brand, though) | Jul 22 20:12 |
| msb__ | melts out much of the fat | Jul 22 20:12 |
| MinceR | fat contributes to the sense of taste | Jul 22 20:13 |
| msb__ | There's still plenty left. | Jul 22 20:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 22 20:13 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Fattiness | Jul 22 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Taste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n7aal ] | Jul 22 20:13 | |
| MinceR | apparently it's still in debate | Jul 22 20:13 |
| msb__ | I think it's an excuse by butchers and grocers to sell you fat. I like the taste of purely lean meat. | Jul 22 20:14 |
| cubexyz | spam has that unique spam taste | Jul 22 20:41 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll get to try it someday | Jul 22 20:42 |
| cubexyz | it seems no one wrote a clipboard manager mwm | Jul 22 20:54 |
| MinceR | those were simpler times :> | Jul 22 20:54 |
| cubexyz | looks like sourceforce is back at least | Jul 22 20:54 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge | Jul 22 20:55 |
| cubexyz | ha, there actually is one | Jul 22 21:02 |
| cubexyz | cutview | Jul 22 21:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.users.uswest.net/~hmahon/sources/cutview-1.69.src.tgz | Jul 22 21:03 |
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| cubexyz | ok, no more messing around | Jul 22 21:28 |
| cubexyz | the future is here: | Jul 22 21:28 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 22 21:31 |
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| amarsh04 | there was wordperfect 4.2 and 5.0 for VAX/VMS | Jul 22 22:23 |
| amarsh04 | and even Netware for VAX/VMS at one stage | Jul 22 22:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 15-Way AMD/NVIDIA Graphics Card Comparison For | Jul 22 22:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.7 Officially | Jul 22 22:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, | Jul 23 03:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, and UFS Improvements, Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 03:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes | Jul 23 03:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes to the RSS Miner | Tux Machines | Jul 23 03:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SusanPickin/status/624122344571805696 | Jul 23 03:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SusanPickin: @schestowitz @IPDraughts wonder why that is - make it easier? | Jul 23 03:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624072915110080512 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077492370935808 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077933674635264 | Jul 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: .@GetUpStandUp2 @PublicEd4Bernie @AJC4others @SenSanders @BadassTeachersA @Women4Bernie "Bill Gates ... Monsanto ..." http://t.co/63qHn7ccfW | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance by philanthropist and accounting expert http://t.co/MokXcXGymy See what into! | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn invests Pharma patent Tobacco Alcoholic beverages Petroleum Experimental controversial crops evn news/media http://t.co/WGvRZG8rtE | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079229475356672 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079929903222784 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624080527608315904 | Jul 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Need not pay tax tho keeps control of assets, use 2 control influence private, public policy http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f See what Bill #Gates n2! | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance Maintain investments & use to control Even news/media! http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation shell 4 tax avoidance? Invests in news / media used to control? http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f ie #Monsanto #GMO #BernieBlackout? | Jul 23 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081167927648256 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081604101672960 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081951490723840 | Jul 23 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn dependence/lock-in cascades down 2 businesses homes Creates revenue wd not exist n free market & Pay 0 tax? http://t.co/bctIFfEWhV | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates also able bring public money to himself through energy & public health policy - and Pays no tax? http://t.co/ducmpsEIHS #Monsanto #GMO | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "As Gates has diversified, his corrupting influence has spread to other portions of the economy." http://t.co/kb8yA8lbRI See what Bill into! | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624082753332617220 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624084936107139072 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624087193678651392 | Jul 23 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House .... under the guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/E1crfghQAr | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill .... Gates Foundation ... private front group (2 advance his 4 profit interests) guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/QhzsEV51EU | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "(Bill) Gates not only plutocrat ... camouflage his agenda ...but probably the biggest .... charities ... a sham .... http://t.co/dwkaJP97gK | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624089571698081796 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624114416548773888 | Jul 23 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates self-feeding money vacuums call4 taxpayer money, explains 2 public Y not harm integrity or real charities http://t.co/JPBWUmUiy5 | Jul 23 03:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates... Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education http://t.co/xiwnTE83kr #BillGates #GMO #glyphosate #cancer | Jul 23 03:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation, Clinton Ties, and Control of Education | Techrights - Linkis.com | Jul 23 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Silver_Lake_Partners | Jul 23 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sourcewatch.org | Silver Lake Partners - SourceWatch [ http://ur1.ca/n7dqa ] | Jul 23 03:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624170431633821696 | Jul 23 06:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz that sounds like one of Newton's laws! Should we call it Schestowitz's First Law of Computer Security??😀 | Jul 23 06:57 | |
| schestowitz | It's more to do with spam than security. Maybe we can learn how serious and widespread back doors are based on volume of spam :-) | Jul 23 06:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624173536572276736 | Jul 23 07:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I agree. There was a time before the web when we used to crave for news. Now we are overwhelmed by spam and crave credibility | Jul 23 07:06 | |
| schestowitz | Paper scarcity | Jul 23 07:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624174961742245888 https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624175451708239872 | Jul 23 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz actually, he only got fired from Fox Business. He's still a contributor to Fox News. IMHO, it was publicity for his book. | Jul 23 07:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and the number of spam invites has increased substantially | Jul 23 07:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In | Jul 23 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian/Ubuntu http://t.co/DkU3EhfpHm | Jul 23 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 23 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In Debian/Ubuntu - Phoronix | Jul 23 07:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624177732016996352 | Jul 23 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Establishment/institutionalised #racism as practiced in #Mexico by the #SpanishScum is as corrosive as overt display https://t.co/MMNQkHtlhI | Jul 23 07:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Establishment/institutionalised racism treated with far more tolerance than personal/individual racism as if might(or magnitude)makes right | Jul 23 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | in Philippines (still called under the occupier) too | Jul 23 07:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624179575950409728 | Jul 23 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: + #Colombia, #Honduras, #Guatemala, #Chile… generally any colony where there is a #Spanish-descended clique in power https://t.co/q2OGWHFrZt | Jul 23 07:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT in Philippines (still called under the occupier) too | Jul 23 07:30 | |
| schestowitz | Well, now they have economic issues too.... about time | Jul 23 07:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624182341292830720 | Jul 23 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's unbelievable but true. I still wonder how did #Spain waste *all* of 300+ years of #plundering 'Latin'America https://t.co/Q5uksU8Elf | Jul 23 07:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT Well, now they have economic issues too.... about time | Jul 23 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | It still does to a degree, I think. Look whose blood the richest families have. | Jul 23 07:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A guide for community management from Jono | Jul 23 07:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bacon http://t.co/sL2XTum2Wh | Jul 23 07:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide for community management from Jono Bacon | Tux Machines | Jul 23 07:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 23 08:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 08:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 23 08:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi Hotspot | Jul 23 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu Touch | Jul 23 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | systemd evolving - DevOps Reactions [ http://ur1.ca/n7fk7 ] | Jul 23 08:22 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Intel Compute Stick Review: The Shape of Things to Come | NDTV Gadgets | Jul 23 09:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneylife.in | Computing with a Stick! - Moneylife | Jul 23 09:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to ruin an open source project: Let me | Jul 23 09:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | count the ways http://t.co/aN9Jq7Mx4C | Jul 23 09:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade | Jul 23 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu 15.04 Now http://t.co/VcUJVAvbZ5 | Jul 23 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 Now | Tux Machines | Jul 23 09:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux | Jul 23 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.1.3 LTS http://t.co/hUUEvHjuzQ | Jul 23 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 23 09:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policy | Jul 23 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | web page http://t.co/2D0uAq1siK | Jul 23 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policy web page | Tux Machines | Jul 23 09:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important | Jul 23 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features on Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/0KeePiGgbO | Jul 23 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch | Tux Machines | Jul 23 09:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games | Jul 23 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KzfSa69Y22 (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games - Softpedia | Jul 23 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | machines coming http://t.co/nQNz5I7pZa | Jul 23 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcr-online.biz | Everything tech dealers need to know about Steam Machine | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail | Jul 23 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important | Jul 23 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features on Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/E7wIozkyQu | Jul 23 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch - Softpedia | Jul 23 10:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One | Jul 23 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Releases Code http://t.co/jtbLrpWlmk | Jul 23 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One Releases Code | Techrights | Jul 23 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Devices http://t.co/V7HPb67QwN | Jul 23 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Devices | Tux Machines | Jul 23 10:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell | Jul 23 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intervention http://t.co/J4fz04N0oP | Jul 23 10:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell Intervention | Tux Machines | Jul 23 10:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/hOFPQUpRYa | Jul 23 10:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 23 10:08 | |
| MinceR | http://kotaku.com/pro-tip-dont-copy-battlefield-3-stingers-1719695507 | Jul 23 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Pro-Tip: Don't Copy Battlefield 3 Stingers [ http://ur1.ca/n7gme ] | Jul 23 10:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220690992869376 https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220794940293120 | Jul 23 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz 📡📡📡 Super Scary https://t.co/1NbsMtlEZV #1984 #Security #Privacy | Jul 23 10:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.m.wikipedia.org | Telescreen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 23 10:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZ | Jul 23 10:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZ | Jul 23 10:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/624222740451430400 | Jul 23 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz that makes their message immediately suspicious anyways .. | Jul 23 10:21 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/M9ZArbg.png | Jul 23 10:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really if that was done for Australia it would lot more screwballed. | Jul 23 10:54 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember pinegap setup is one of the biggest existing data collectors. | Jul 23 10:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap | Jul 23 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pine Gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 23 10:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: weclome to legal stupid. Its not legal for lots of USA intelegence groups to spy inside the USA or on USA based cits. There is absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request. | Jul 23 10:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ctgoSSRuMy | Jul 23 12:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/IdeQtNXIuu | Jul 23 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 23 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 23 12:26 | |
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| msb_ | "absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request." Definitely a moral problem though since our govt does not represent us American citizens at all. | Jul 23 14:45 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/624290195110776832 | Jul 23 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz https://t.co/KK4XAD8vq3 | Jul 23 15:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> storify.com | Why "all lives matter" is an inappropriate, racist response to Black Lives Matter (with tweets) · the_author_ · Storify | Jul 23 15:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyT | Jul 23 15:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/4s814jpylm | Jul 23 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 15:54 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/22/os_x_root_hole/ | Jul 23 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Get root on an OS X 10.10 Mac: The exploit is so trivial it fits in a tweet • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/n7k00 ] | Jul 23 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624316859421077504 | Jul 23 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's been a long time since I went to speak at any conference | Jul 23 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | I always found that to be a waste of time myself, for several reasons | Jul 23 16:36 |
| schestowitz | It's an old habit, like publishing paper, assuming no Internet and paper scarcity; same with gatherings like conferences | Jul 23 16:37 |
| cubexyz | the net is a bit nebulous though | Jul 23 16:40 |
| cubexyz | anything important should be printed out | Jul 23 16:41 |
| cubexyz | sourceforge isn't 100%, repos disappear, accidents happen | Jul 23 16:42 |
| MinceR | sourceforge is shit | Jul 23 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version | Jul 23 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2FDfNB2Qdh (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version - Softpedia | Jul 23 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in | Jul 23 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | India http://t.co/vqqfHtsF8I | Jul 23 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infotechlead.com | Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in India | Jul 23 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infotechlead.com) https://t.co/pltOYbj4QH | Jul 23 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Jul 23 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Training Kicks Off $79 Pricing for India | Linux.com | Jul 23 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Jul 23 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cpVnIVrp0M (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 23 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HIG updates http://t.co/efGkVajxDc | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HIG updates | Tux Machines | Jul 23 16:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines France publishes free software procurement | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | templates http://t.co/R3D1r3vGBB | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France publishes free software procurement templates | Tux Machines | Jul 23 16:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Passwords and Settings for Ark | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CNbHejSkLe (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 16:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | Tux Machines | Jul 23 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Training for India http://t.co/3fwXDMyzZn | Jul 23 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation Training for India | Tux Machines | Jul 23 16:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624323377126203392 | Jul 23 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz well historically I would not speak at confs that were not free/open to public, so rarely did so in US generally | Jul 23 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | What about libreplanet? | Jul 23 17:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How I finally got permission to use my own | Jul 23 17:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computer | Jul 23 17:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/mvKEwEgvMB (opensource.com) | Jul 23 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Jay LaCroix shares his Linux story | Opensource.com | Jul 23 17:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyT | Jul 23 17:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 17:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 23 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 23 17:06 | |
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| cubexyz | it's interesting that all these conversion stories seem to be from win-some-vesion to Linux | Jul 23 17:12 |
| cubexyz | the true story of what happened is more like this: | Jul 23 17:14 |
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| cubexyz | Bell Labs Unix -> BSD -> SunOS/AT&T Unix Sys V/and derivatives | Jul 23 17:16 |
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| cubexyz | then later on Minix | Jul 23 17:16 |
| cubexyz | after that then Linux | Jul 23 17:16 |
| cubexyz | so this experience of win98 to Linux isn't universal | Jul 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Jul 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FiT5jZIMFi (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes - Softpedia | Jul 23 17:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on | Jul 23 17:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MnPDjMyjbU (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 23 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on Twitter - Softpedia | Jul 23 17:17 | |
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| cubexyz | it's just sad that so many folks' first computer experience was some version of windows | Jul 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.17.4 http://t.co/iKKNhTgfIp | Jul 23 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (permalink.gmane.org) | Jul 23 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.17.4 | Jul 23 17:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624327240923222016 | Jul 23 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz that was among the rare exceptions ;. I had spoken at a few of them actually. | Jul 23 17:18 | |
| cubexyz | Xerox had a multi-lingual system in the 1980s | Jul 23 17:18 |
| cubexyz | IBM VM/SP didn't crash, VMS didn't crash, TOPS-20 same | Jul 23 17:19 |
| cubexyz | win95 was positively awful | Jul 23 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The battle between open-source and proprietary | Jul 23 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software for drone development | Jul 23 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eRehrgUuJp (sdtimes.com) | Jul 23 17:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | The battle between open-source and proprietary software for drone development - SD Times | Jul 23 17:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: man-pages-4.01 is released | Jul 23 17:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cef56ihwxr | Jul 23 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-man-pages.blogspot.co.uk | Linux man-pages: man-pages-4.01 is released | Jul 23 17:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux-man-pages.blogspot.co.uk) | Jul 23 17:21 |
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| MinceR | so was winblows nt, macos and m$-dos | Jul 23 17:21 |
| MinceR | and so's lendows | Jul 23 17:21 |
| cubexyz | there's no lendows yet | Jul 23 17:21 |
| cubexyz | let's keep it that way :) | Jul 23 17:21 |
| MinceR | there are several distributions of lendows already | Jul 23 17:22 |
| MinceR | in chronological order: fedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debian | Jul 23 17:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328015992860673 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328218779103232 | Jul 23 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz also when youre in an oppresive country it can be liberating going places that have real freedom and regard for human dignity | Jul 23 17:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz libreplanet is always an excellent event | Jul 23 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | US is not so low in the list, but low for Western country. Also, it's how it treats foreign countries that's most appalling. | Jul 23 17:23 |
| msb_ | PC-DOS wasn't bad. You could program in assembly, BASIC and C, do color graphics, network via modem, modify the OS by intercepting system-call interrupts with your own code. It was like a minicomputer. | Jul 23 17:25 |
| MinceR | it didn't do half of what an os is supposed to do | Jul 23 17:25 |
| MinceR | it did not abstract the hardware at all | Jul 23 17:25 |
| msb_ | Not what an OS does today, but it did what a minicomputer, like the LINC or PDP-8, did then, only much better. | Jul 23 17:26 |
| msb_ | And much cheaper. | Jul 23 17:27 |
| msb_ | IBM-PC was a great little machine. | Jul 23 17:27 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lsinger favourited 'The battle between open-source and proprietary software for...' | Jul 23 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Passwords and Settings for Ark | Jul 23 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/X5e1i8bgJd (www.aelog.org) | Jul 23 17:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aelog.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | aelog | Jul 23 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The GNOME 3 Human Interface Guidelines were | Jul 23 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released just under a year ago." | Jul 23 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fNSxcEhpZw (blogs.gnome.org) | Jul 23 17:28 |
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| msb_ | There was lots of good software for it, too. XTREE filemanager, BRIEF editor, and a great C compiler and runtime system whose name I can't remember. Not MS-C; that was so buggy you always had to run it with the optimizer turned off. | Jul 23 17:32 |
| MinceR | borland? watcom? | Jul 23 17:33 |
| MinceR | djgpp? | Jul 23 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to | Jul 23 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today http://t.co/IgIkf1f1m4 (www.cio.com) | Jul 23 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to today | CIO | Jul 23 17:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How I use Android: App designer and Android | Jul 23 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | blogger Liam Spradlin http://t.co/tVGIZi01dn | Jul 23 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | How I use Android: App designer and Android blogger Liam Spradlin | Computerworld | Jul 23 17:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Jul 23 17:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't | Jul 23 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Need http://t.co/HfuE7k1P02 (www.forbes.com) | Jul 23 17:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't Need - Forbes | Jul 23 17:33 | |
| msb_ | Right, Borland! | Jul 23 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/624332203548348416 | Jul 23 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Going from 64mb to 384mb must have been amazing. It makes me smile and think of my early computing breaking and fixing it. | Jul 23 17:38 | |
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| cubexyz | msb_, ripping off CP/M and Kildall to create QDOS, which was used to make PC-DOS, MSDOS | Jul 23 17:47 |
| cubexyz | makes it kind of bad | Jul 23 17:47 |
| cubexyz | we should have went to Unix much earlier but the hardware wasn't quite there | Jul 23 17:48 |
| msb_ | Programming was much simpler. To put a dot on the screen you wrote the color code into the byte or half-byte corresponding to the x and y coordinates, and there it was. Now you have to go through so much middleware and toolkits I wonder if it's any faster, even with the cpu clock hundreds of times faster. | Jul 23 17:48 |
| MinceR | we could have went to unix much earlier, if ibm's management weren't a bunch of corrupt idiots | Jul 23 17:48 |
| MinceR | msb_: now programs can share a display, handle a far greater variety of GPUs and displays, take advantage of 2D and 3D acceleration, and be kept from crashing each other or the OS. | Jul 23 17:49 |
| cubexyz | I can go directly to xlib if necessary | Jul 23 17:49 |
| msb_ | Kildall was too busy flying his plane that day to respond. | Jul 23 17:50 |
| MinceR | must have been extremely urgent, to make m$-dos acceptable | Jul 23 17:50 |
| cubexyz | if I want to go back to hardware registers I have my Amiga for that | Jul 23 17:50 |
| msb_ | MinceR: yes, but with a single user and a single type of hardware you didn't need all that versatility. | Jul 23 17:50 |
| cubexyz | msb_, also we have freedos these days which is FOSS | Jul 23 17:51 |
| MinceR | msb_: even with a single user, access control and memory protection are useful | Jul 23 17:51 |
| MinceR | and i have many types of hardware | Jul 23 17:51 |
| cubexyz | yes, MMUs are good :) | Jul 23 17:51 |
| cubexyz | the ability to run a web browser, irc, and other utilities simultaneously is a big bonus | Jul 23 17:53 |
| msb_ | Every biochem lab I worked in had one kind of minicomputer. I had one kind of microcomputer. We did fine. | Jul 23 17:53 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Jul 23 17:53 |
| msb_ | Yes, the Internet is a very good thing for humanity. | Jul 23 17:54 |
| cubexyz | I like Minis, I still program them albeit via emulation | Jul 23 17:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I don't know whether many your responses are positive or sarcastic. | Jul 23 17:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 23 17:55 |
| cubexyz | and there is value in learning simpler operating systems | Jul 23 17:56 |
| cubexyz | modern ones are so complex that it makes learning some things difficult | Jul 23 17:56 |
| MinceR | especially the ones that were "designed" by people who worship unnecessary complexity | Jul 23 17:57 |
| cubexyz | also the IBM PC BIOS is well understood | Jul 23 17:59 |
| MinceR | which means it had to go | Jul 23 17:59 |
| msb_ | With the Web we finally have effective freedom of speech, with which we can reach millions of people for about $10/month for website hosting. | Jul 23 17:59 |
| MinceR | the web is being closed | Jul 23 18:00 |
| msb_ | How? | Jul 23 18:00 |
| MinceR | html5 supports DRM and recommends patent-encumbered video codecs | Jul 23 18:00 |
| MinceR | also, blobs | Jul 23 18:00 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, there's an important historical precedent with the IBM PC | Jul 23 18:00 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 18:00 |
| MinceR | multiple ones | Jul 23 18:00 |
| cubexyz | for the earliest version of the BIOS one used intel utilities to assembly it, not microsoft | Jul 23 18:01 |
| MinceR | the first(?) computer that was friendly to cloning | Jul 23 18:01 |
| cubexyz | shortly after version 1.0 it switched over to microsoft | Jul 23 18:01 |
| MinceR | but also m$'s big chance to destroy the IT industry | Jul 23 18:01 |
| cubexyz | well actually the Soviets cloned the PDP-11s | Jul 23 18:01 |
| msb_ | MinceR: You can create your own website and use HTML4 with no DRM. | Jul 23 18:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 18:02 |
| MinceR | but others will make their websites at least as closed as flash sites | Jul 23 18:02 |
| MinceR | to the cheers of people celebrating the death of flash, not noticing that html5 is the new flash | Jul 23 18:02 |
| msb_ | So? The important thing is that people who want to broadcast good information can do it openly. | Jul 23 18:04 |
| MinceR | for how long? | Jul 23 18:04 |
| msb_ | and simply and inexpensively. | Jul 23 18:04 |
| cubexyz | well you could complain about wmv, COM, ActiveX and .Net, DDE, ASP, etc etc | Jul 23 18:04 |
| cubexyz | the list goes on and on | Jul 23 18:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, the IT industry is full of cancer | Jul 23 18:04 |
| MinceR | and with uefi, it seems to be finally dying | Jul 23 18:04 |
| cubexyz | chromeboxes have coreboot | Jul 23 18:04 |
| MinceR | all of them? | Jul 23 18:05 |
| MinceR | i've seen one advertised with the option of an "upgrade" to vista10 | Jul 23 18:05 |
| cubexyz | probably not all of them | Jul 23 18:05 |
| MinceR | naturally, "won't run the code you write" is a "feature" that is never advertised | Jul 23 18:06 |
| cubexyz | I blogged about that, just a sec I'll find the link | Jul 23 18:07 |
| msb_ | Are there any PCs that won't run Linux due to UEFI? I thought all major distros had a way around it. | Jul 23 18:07 |
| MinceR | maybe the vista10 logo requirements will already exclude it | Jul 23 18:08 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/2015/03/easy-way-to-get-coreboot.html | Jul 23 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux: Easy Way to Get Coreboot [ http://ur1.ca/jvpo5 ] | Jul 23 18:08 | |
| MinceR | maybe canonical's and redcrap's shims (for which they paid m$) will be allowed for a while | Jul 23 18:08 |
| MinceR | and then m$ will generate a malware scare and use that as an excuse to lock them out, too | Jul 23 18:08 |
| MinceR | it's not easy to get coreboot on "intel boot guard" | Jul 23 18:09 |
| cubexyz | intel needs to work with the coreboot people to fix that | Jul 23 18:10 |
| msb_ | Corporate psychopath shitpigs have been trying for decades to kill free computing and information sharing. But clever people have always found a way around their blocks. | Jul 23 18:12 |
| MinceR | it seems that the majority is losing their desire for freedom | Jul 23 18:12 |
| MinceR | we're falling into a worldwide fascist dystopia | Jul 23 18:12 |
| msb_ | Also, we can now get little computers like Raspberry-Pi (but more powerful) for about $100 that will run Linux, get on the Net, do everything. | Jul 23 18:13 |
| MinceR | i wonder when those will be banned | Jul 23 18:13 |
| MinceR | or just replaced with the usual kind of remote-controlled zombie "computer" | Jul 23 18:13 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Why don't you just cut to the chase and wonder when everyone will be lobotomized at birth? | Jul 23 18:14 |
| msb_ | You are being very pessimistic. | Jul 23 18:14 |
| MinceR | that's interesting too | Jul 23 18:14 |
| cubexyz | my custom made PDP-11 clone will save the world :) | Jul 23 18:15 |
| msb_ | Cheer up! Smoke some cannabis. Do you have that in Hungary? | Jul 23 18:15 |
| MinceR | we probably do, but it's illegal | Jul 23 18:15 |
| MinceR | only the "white people's drugs" are allowed | Jul 23 18:16 |
| MinceR | tobacco and ethanol | Jul 23 18:16 |
| cubexyz | can't you just turn off intel boot guard? | Jul 23 18:16 |
| msb_ | Yes, consciousness is illegal, but you can get psychedelics even so. | Jul 23 18:16 |
| cubexyz | if you own the computer... | Jul 23 18:16 |
| MinceR | afaik you can't | Jul 23 18:16 |
| msb_ | Buy AMD, not Intel. | Jul 23 18:17 |
| MinceR | for how long will AMD resist this? | Jul 23 18:18 |
| cubexyz | not a great variety of choices there | Jul 23 18:18 |
| MinceR | (assuming they don't have their own shit already) | Jul 23 18:18 |
| msb_ | AMD-FX8350. The only way to fly! 8 cores, less than $200 and very fast. | Jul 23 18:19 |
| msb_ | Asus mobo, 16GB of RAM, a 3TB WD Caviar-Black disk, and a good case/PS. For less than $1,000 you have a desktop computer equal to a supercomputer of 10-20 years ago. | Jul 23 18:24 |
| msb_ | Or if you're a kid on a low budget, $100 buys a Linux Net-ready SBC. | Jul 23 18:25 |
| msb_ | ...a supercomputer that cost $10,000,000 | Jul 23 18:26 |
| msb_ | All stemming from Gutenberg and the printing press. | Jul 23 18:28 |
| msb_ | Now we print supercomputers on silicon chips. | Jul 23 18:28 |
| MinceR | i wish we really did | Jul 23 18:28 |
| MinceR | but it's just 'they' for now | Jul 23 18:29 |
| cubexyz | you'd have to use TTL chips to make your own CPU | Jul 23 18:29 |
| cubexyz | possible but difficult | Jul 23 18:29 |
| cubexyz | or I guess you could use relays | Jul 23 18:30 |
| msb_ | The ultra-VLSI technology exists. Some country is going to make supercomputer chips with it and sell them because they want the business. | Jul 23 18:32 |
| msb_ | Like China. | Jul 23 18:32 |
| cubexyz | there's cheap FPGA boards now | Jul 23 18:32 |
| cubexyz | so we are getting there | Jul 23 18:33 |
| msb_ | Maybe it will have to be smuggled in. "Hey, meester, you want Raspberry-Pi? I got, cheap." | Jul 23 18:33 |
| MinceR | countries didn't even want the business of selling laptops with GNU/Linux enough | Jul 23 18:33 |
| MinceR | there's more money in selling shiny crap that doesn't work. | Jul 23 18:34 |
| MinceR | even EeePCs were only sold in this hellhole with winblows | Jul 23 18:34 |
| msb_ | In a way, it's good that some important things that people want, are illegal. It induces people to become minor outlaws, and teaches them that government is a bunch of psychopaths out to control and rob them. | Jul 23 18:35 |
| MinceR | it also makes those things less safe and a lot more costly | Jul 23 18:36 |
| msb_ | Maybe Goddess created Earth to train the faithful. | Jul 23 18:37 |
| MinceR | then again, the IT industry has been controlled by criminals for a while already | Jul 23 18:37 |
| MinceR | m$, crApple | Jul 23 18:37 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Yes, most software that people buy and have is crap, because that's what they're offerred if they naively walk into a store. | Jul 23 18:38 |
| msb_ | But if they know about FOSS, they can get something good. | Jul 23 18:39 |
| msb_ | And even with the crap, on the Net they can learn about FOSS. | Jul 23 18:39 |
| cubexyz | there's not many computer stores I like nowadays | Jul 23 18:40 |
| msb_ | If you go into a forest and start chewing on random plants, you will be disappointed. But if you know where to look, you can find yummy food. | Jul 23 18:41 |
| msb_ | The life-task of people who know better, like us, is to teach and turn-on people who don't. | Jul 23 18:42 |
| msb_ | That's why we're here! | Jul 23 18:43 |
| cubexyz | probably there's a linux store in Toronto somewhere | Jul 23 18:43 |
| cubexyz | wow, they're selling P4 computers for $20 :) | Jul 23 18:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.eused.ca/Pricelist.htm | Jul 23 18:44 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 18:45 |
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| msb_ | All these psychopaths and governments and other difficulties on Earth do induce people to evolve personally. | Jul 23 18:49 |
| msb_ | Maybe Frank Herbert was talking about Earth when he wrote that about Dune. He wrote about psychedelics in some of his books. | Jul 23 18:49 |
| msb_ | I'll have to remember that. It's the canonical cure for depression. | Jul 23 18:51 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, some of that stuff is impossible | Jul 23 18:53 |
| MinceR | like the genetic memories in humans | Jul 23 18:53 |
| msb_ | Paul Muad-Dib: We Fremen have a saying: "God created Arakis to train the faithful." One cannot go against the word of God. " | Jul 23 18:55 |
| MinceR | pity there's no "God" | Jul 23 18:56 |
| msb_ | But Earth exists, and will train you, MinceR, if you can relax a little. | Jul 23 18:57 |
| MinceR | "i believe that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you... stranger." | Jul 23 18:58 |
| MinceR | will it train me to defeat billions of humans? | Jul 23 18:59 |
| msb_ | Looking at the negative side of things prepares us for catastrophes that may occur. But _only_ looking at the negative side prevents us from enjoying life and growing. | Jul 23 18:59 |
| msb_ | It will train you to help wake up billions of humans! | Jul 23 19:00 |
| MinceR | we won't get to enjoy life for long or grow if these people have their way | Jul 23 19:00 |
| MinceR | can you wake up the one who has no mind? | Jul 23 19:00 |
| msb_ | Billions of people aren't attacking you. They are lead by a few organized psychopaths. | Jul 23 19:01 |
| msb_ | All those people _do_ have minds. They have been programmed to stay in Sleep. They aren't dead. | Jul 23 19:02 |
| msb_ | They can wake up. | Jul 23 19:02 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: The knowledge from many different people is summarized here. The best stuff is toward the end. Please read the whole thing. http://cosmicpenguin.com/CauseAndCure.html | Jul 23 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | THE CAUSE AND CURE OF HUMANITY'S PROBLEMS [ http://ur1.ca/n52a6 ] | Jul 23 19:06 | |
| MinceR | oh, i've read it before | Jul 23 19:15 |
| MinceR | and bookmarked it because i may want to read some of those books | Jul 23 19:15 |
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| msb_ | "spice expands consciousness" The whole Dune story is about a psychedelic! | Jul 23 19:46 |
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| cubexyz | once I was asked if microsoft made windows bad on purpose | Jul 23 20:01 |
| cubexyz | but actually I think it's just a bad design | Jul 23 20:02 |
| cubexyz | Minix could actually have the best design, but there's other issues with it | Jul 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | i think they simply don't possess the knowledge and expertise required to come up with bad designs | Jul 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | though their management and corporate culture certainly doesn't help | Jul 23 20:03 |
| cubexyz | you mean good designs? :) | Jul 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | s/bad/good/ | Jul 23 20:03 |
| MinceR | they probably believe they're being clever, like poettering does | Jul 23 20:04 |
| MinceR | and sievers | Jul 23 20:04 |
| MinceR | "ooh, this is so beautifully baroque, i'm a fucking genius!" | Jul 23 20:04 |
| MinceR | m$ also hired Mr. I Define Myself By My Hatred Of Unix to design NT | Jul 23 20:05 |
| MinceR | the results were predictable | Jul 23 20:05 |
| cubexyz | Cutler | Jul 23 20:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 20:05 |
| cubexyz | well he's a goof | Jul 23 20:05 |
| MinceR | that guy wouldn't recognize a good design if it hit him in the head with a hammer | Jul 23 20:05 |
| cubexyz | he probably hated the fact that Unix/BSD was circulating around for free | Jul 23 20:05 |
| MinceR | like gates, who's apparently incapable of understanding that not every line of code is written with the intention to make money | Jul 23 20:06 |
| cubexyz | the higher ups at Microsoft are all about control and $$$ | Jul 23 20:06 |
| cubexyz | it's a toxic environment | Jul 23 20:06 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 23 20:07 |
| MinceR | and that attitude infected redcrap too | Jul 23 20:07 |
| cubexyz | it is a pity about Red Hat | Jul 23 20:10 |
| cubexyz | a lot of people really liked 5.2, 6.0, 6.1 etc | Jul 23 20:11 |
| cubexyz | if you want to see an OS without the bloat there's OpenBSD for vax | Jul 23 20:11 |
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| cubexyz | it can't have bloat if it has to work in 16 megs of ram | Jul 23 20:11 |
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| cubexyz | tinycore and ttylinux are anti-systemd for philosophical and technical reasons | Jul 23 20:14 |
| msb_ | I think Windows purposely contains bugs to induce people to buy the next version. | Jul 23 20:15 |
| cubexyz | it's a possibility, but the design _is_ bad | Jul 23 20:16 |
| cubexyz | you're implying that the bugs are introduced at EOL to get folks to upgrade | Jul 23 20:19 |
| cubexyz | definitely possible | Jul 23 20:19 |
| msb_ | Nah, the bugs are included when it's new. | Jul 23 20:19 |
| cubexyz | do they still use WGA? | Jul 23 20:20 |
| msb_ | It gives them plausible denial. "Duh, we don't know how to make an OS, that's why there are bugs. It's not to make people buy the next version." | Jul 23 20:20 |
| cubexyz | and the stupid thing about WGA is that it doesn't even validate Windows XP any more! | Jul 23 20:21 |
| cubexyz | it just barfs out errors | Jul 23 20:22 |
| cubexyz | it's actually pretty jarring to use windows on a customer's computer | Jul 23 20:24 |
| cubexyz | fortunately a few of my customers have linux boxes as well | Jul 23 20:27 |
| cubexyz | BSD people are pretty rare | Jul 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | this piece of shit raspberry py freezes every time i plug a particular microsd card into it | Jul 23 20:32 |
| MinceR | except when it just ignores the card even exists | Jul 23 20:32 |
| MinceR | WGA is more likely to find a genuine copy to be "pirated" than to realize that WINE isn't winblows | Jul 23 20:33 |
| MinceR | typical m$ trash quality | Jul 23 20:33 |
| msb_ | Windows Genuine Advantage messes up windows even more if it thinks it's pirated. That's real NewSpeak! | Jul 23 20:34 |
| cubexyz | Windows Genuine Disadvantage :) | Jul 23 20:34 |
| msb_ | Only time I've used Windows in this century was on a neighbor's laptop to scope out parts for my present computer, when the last one died. | Jul 23 20:36 |
| cubexyz | msb_, did you know you can buy "The Evil Within" at the Microsoft Store? | Jul 23 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I find that hilarious | Jul 23 20:37 |
| msb_ | Is that a game? | Jul 23 20:38 |
| MinceR | if i do, do they ship gates to my home in a cage? | Jul 23 20:38 |
| msb_ | Hope he has a muzzle. | Jul 23 20:38 |
| cubexyz | yes...Xbox one game | Jul 23 20:38 |
| cubexyz | I just thought it was appropriate | Jul 23 20:39 |
| msb_ | Is there an Xbox emulator for Linux? | Jul 23 20:41 |
| cubexyz | don't think so | Jul 23 20:42 |
| cubexyz | don't think the API is documented very well | Jul 23 20:44 |
| msb_ | Also for playstation and pc. But it sounds disgusting. | Jul 23 20:44 |
| msb_ | But wouldn't there be someone with a logic analyzer and nothing else to do who would pull one apart and figure out the API? | Jul 23 20:45 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jul 23 20:46 |
| cubexyz | given enough time and effort | Jul 23 20:46 |
| MinceR | in a decade or two | Jul 23 20:46 |
| MinceR | or a century | Jul 23 20:46 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xbox-brick.jpg | Jul 23 21:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 23 21:12 |
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| cubexyz | it's sad to say but really old linux was better than new linux | Jul 23 23:11 |
| cubexyz | systemd, consolekit, polkit ugh | Jul 23 23:11 |
| cubexyz | FC1 didn't have any of those | Jul 23 23:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel | Jul 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 | Jul 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3dYQnwBDzY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7nco | Jul 23 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 | Tux Machines | Jul 23 23:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation offers cheaper courses and | Jul 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | certifications for India http://t.co/sSc7KAHYZk | Jul 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 23 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7ncq | Jul 23 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation offers cheaper courses and certifications for India | Tux Machines | Jul 23 23:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/opendna/status/624336572423503873 | Jul 24 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@opendna: @schestowitz WP now includes hard-coded js CDN for emoji support. => time to fork. | Jul 24 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/01micko/status/624390981601759233 | Jul 24 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @glynmoody @schestowitz "tinfoil twitter" in action from #f-droid #opensource #freesoftware http://t.co/N6qa14m2XZ | Jul 24 00:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@01micko: @glynmoody @schestowitz "tinfoil twitter" in action from #f-droid #opensource #freesoftware http://t.co/N6qa14m2XZ | Jul 24 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368253 | Jul 24 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Telegram in #Fedora http://fedoramagazine.org/telegram-in-fedora/ #redhat #gnu #linux #freesw | Jul 24 00:51 | |
| schestowitz | "SilverWolf: Their contest is marketing blabla see http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/" | Jul 24 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | Telegram in Fedora - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n6p75 ] | Jul 24 00:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thoughtcrime.org | Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers [ http://ur1.ca/n7nww ] | Jul 24 00:51 | |
| schestowitz | "It does NOT prove anything" | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure what exactly their argument is supposed to be piratenpanda… They basically seem to be saying “If we knew what the message was it wouldn’t be secure!” which is pretty much a given and also exactly what’s being obscured. Am I missing something or is this just a competing project that hasn’t recieved as much publicity/actual knowledgable adoption making an excuse for why this doesn’t count as security? | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | Remember, for the average person, convenience is more important than anything else. If Telegram offers any obscurity, it’s better than alternatives. If it offers decent obscurity while maintaining convenience levels that are easy enough for non-security focused Joe Average then it’s more likely to gain adoption than a perfect security that is harder to get in to. There will likely never be easy security that is perfect security, the | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | trick is finding a good balance. | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | Telegram strikes a good balance of security, ease of use, and availability. The contest may be “marketing blabla” but if it were so easy to crack why has nobody chosen to get the reward? If it’s because you can’t do it wit | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | "without the initial message, then that’s going to be good enough for most." | Jul 24 00:52 |
| schestowitz | "@priatepanda how is using the opensource free software telegram via secret chat (no server) unsecure? Please prove it before criticizing, thank you." | Jul 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz | "I didnt say that. Just mentioning that their contest is in no way any indication how secure it is and how it is flawed" | Jul 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz | And i dont trust them | Jul 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Thats why i use textsecure | Jul 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 00:53 |
| schestowitz | "Also as mentioned in the other thread, they still have the meta data and if their business is as shady as their marketing, well that doesn’t increase my willingness of trusting them more" | Jul 24 00:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/63https://joindiaspora.com/posts/637784277842 | Jul 24 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11755147/Hackers-are-winning-the-digital-war-fair-play-to-them.html | Jul 24 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > No. Inexcusably bad design is running rampant and left unpunished. The | Jul 24 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > managers that brought about these systems have been brought to justice | Jul 24 04:35 |
| schestowitz | > or they will just keep making pushover garbage. | Jul 24 04:35 |
| schestowitz | Indeed, but they don't want to 'get' it. | Jul 24 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 24 04:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Hackers are winning the digital war - fair play to them - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/n7pl4 ] | Jul 24 04:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624499892803637248 | Jul 24 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Maybe @TheRegister wants to disrupt #WP #hegemony & intro healthy #diversity:CMS @b2evolution http://t.co/s4nPhL4IX3 https://t.co/Gqh0Uutf7G | Jul 24 04:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> b2evolution.net | b2evolution blog/social CMS - A complete engine for your website! | Jul 24 04:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #theRegister with the usual sensationalism http://t.co/yVwdWXalvo | Jul 24 04:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @elementary favourited 'elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop...' | Jul 24 04:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel | Jul 24 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Jul 24 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/I60BJllCKa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pnl | Jul 24 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Tux Machines | Jul 24 04:45 | |
| schestowitz | > https://www.google.com/search?q=opendocument+format&hl=en | Jul 24 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | opendocument format - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/n7ppz ] | Jul 24 04:54 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 04:54 |
| schestowitz | > still missing the Document Foundation's announcement there in their index | Jul 24 04:54 |
| schestowitz | In what sense? It is imperative to have it appear higher? | Jul 24 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/w6Xxvpudg8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7prx | Jul 24 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Tux Machines | Jul 24 05:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alternative to awful OEM solutions | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4kcSRQSEQO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pry | Jul 24 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta alternative to awful OEM solutions | Tux Machines | Jul 24 05:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aRiilO42mk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7prz | Jul 24 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jul 24 05:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel | Jul 24 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 | Jul 24 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2P8d80Efav (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap to Arrive Soon with Linux Kernel 4.1, Tumbleweed Gets GNOME 3.16.3 - Softpedia | Jul 24 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7puo | Jul 24 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open | Jul 24 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Spark http://t.co/QfT3UuiBub | Jul 24 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open Source Spark - Forbes | Jul 24 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.forbes.com) | Jul 24 05:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android in 2020: How much will it change in | Jul 24 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | five years? http://t.co/QfT3UuiBub | Jul 24 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.forbes.com) | Jul 24 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7puq | Jul 24 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel | Jul 24 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS | Jul 24 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/yoe3N1aoUz (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Patches Multiple Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities in Ubuntu 15.04 and 14.04 LTS - Softpedia | Jul 24 05:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pvi | Jul 24 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta | Jul 24 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | alternative to awful OEM solutions | Jul 24 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7sLb7kAvJi (arstechnica.com) | Jul 24 05:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pvk | Jul 24 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Android auto review: A beautiful, but beta alternative to awful OEM solutions | Ars Technica | Jul 24 05:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple | Jul 24 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 | Jul 24 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vOnAOHyLDX (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Nautilus File Manager Receives Multiple Improvements and Bugfixes for GNOME 3.18 - Softpedia | Jul 24 05:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pvl | Jul 24 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel | Jul 24 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update, Users Urged to Update Now | Jul 24 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/C5spGfjkUN (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Receives a New Linux Kernel Update, Users Urged to Update Now - Softpedia | Jul 24 05:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pwo | Jul 24 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Adds Navigation | Jul 24 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements to Web Apps http://t.co/4jpSq4o10j | Jul 24 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Adds Navigation Improvements to Web Apps - Softpedia | Jul 24 05:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pwp | Jul 24 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Include Calendar App and | Jul 24 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dekko Email Client by Default | Jul 24 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/f78VRXw4YF (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Include Calendar App and Dekko Email Client by Default - Softpedia | Jul 24 05:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7pwq | Jul 24 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung launches additional information | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | services for Tizen TV http://t.co/FSlvzTBj1B | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 24 05:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung launches additional information services for Tizen TV - Tizen Experts | Jul 24 05:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q3t | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/47k7virDQe (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q3u | Jul 24 05:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Linux Journal | Jul 24 05:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source Spark http://t.co/lXjpEehEo1 | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 05:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7q3v | Jul 24 05:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Huawei Way: Chinese Telco Ignites Open Source Spark | Tux Machines | Jul 24 05:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/624514837910044672 https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/624515075043422208 | Jul 24 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz As a guy who watches a lot of Japanese adds it seems to parents selling to on screen children..... | Jul 24 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz As an example they are currently celebrating the Revive version of the RX-78 and has a dad building for his young son. | Jul 24 05:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android in 2020: How much will it change in | Jul 24 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | five years? http://t.co/bXhLAi0ZaU | Jul 24 05:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android in 2020: How much will it change in five years? | Tux Machines | Jul 24 05:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The French want to BAN .doc and .xls files from | Jul 24 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Le Gouvernement http://t.co/masEm7nQHK | Jul 24 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The French want to BAN .doc and .xls files from Le Gouvernement | Tux Machines | Jul 24 05:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade | Jul 24 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready http://t.co/BcO5VHFFMH (ostatic.com) | Jul 24 05:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade Ready | Jul 24 05:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MikeHall820 followed @tuxmachines | Jul 24 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SmartGit 7 Preview 12 Now Ready for Download | Jul 24 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Testing | Jul 24 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/RycUlj8Wi5 (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | SmartGit 7 Preview 12 Now Ready for Download and Testing - Softpedia | Jul 24 06:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Don't Be Patchman Is the First Game to Launch | Jul 24 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Steam Only for Linux | Jul 24 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MWLzzkXuAC (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Don't Be Patchman Is the First Game to Launch on Steam Only for Linux - Softpedia | Jul 24 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qcg | Jul 24 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell 3.17.4 Adds Four-Finger Swipe | Jul 24 06:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gesture http://t.co/1zHETBFPKc | Jul 24 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Shell 3.17.4 Adds Four-Finger Swipe Gesture - Phoronix | Jul 24 06:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 06:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Terraria Is Finally Coming on Linux | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wJ5inrNGfr (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Terraria Is Finally Coming on Linux - Softpedia | Jul 24 06:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Linux's DNF Package Manager Gets New | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features, Many Bugfixes http://t.co/1d9y0ngzDt | Jul 24 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora Linux's DNF Package Manager Gets New Features, Many Bugfixes - Softpedia | Jul 24 06:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 06:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mutter 3.17.4 Improves HiDPI On Wayland, Adds | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Compositor-Side Animated Cursors | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3Q0IkhqfYB (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 06:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mutter 3.17.4 Improves HiDPI On Wayland, Adds Compositor-Side Animated Cursors - Phoronix | Jul 24 06:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready http://t.co/wyn3EWTwyu | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Releases Roadmap, Mint 17.2 KDE Upgrade Ready | Tux Machines | Jul 24 06:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qih | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Advanced spyware for Android now available to | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | script kiddies everywhere | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/MQSx227zWS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 06:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Advanced spyware for Android now available to script kiddies everywhere | Tux Machines | Jul 24 06:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MDN celebrates 10 years of documenting YOUR Web | Jul 24 06:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0HBzKaLSsc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 06:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MDN celebrates 10 years of documenting YOUR Web | Tux Machines | Jul 24 06:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6381247 | Jul 24 06:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #3D printing in Fedora: From an idea to the thing http://fedoramagazine.org/3d-printing-in-fedora-from-an-idea-to-the-thing/ #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jul 24 06:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | 3D printing in Fedora: From an idea to the thing - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n7qkj ] | Jul 24 06:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6378115 | Jul 24 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU #Linux Circles Ought to Stop Promoting #VisualStudio , Neither Cross-Platform Nor Free Software http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/visual-studio-promoted-in-linux-2/ #microsoft | Jul 24 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | "Didn’t you post something the like the other day? Sorry if I’m wrong." | Jul 24 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | GNU/Linux Circles Ought to Stop Promoting Visual Studio, Which is Neither Cross-Platform Nor Free Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7nsd ] | Jul 24 07:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSCON http://t.co/2BDiWQqCoG | Jul 24 07:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSCON | Tux Machines | Jul 24 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest http://t.co/7cU3HOeZDi | Jul 24 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 07:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux Machines | Jul 24 07:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bambiuur92 followed @tuxmachines | Jul 24 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: GNOME Software | Jul 24 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OnGJBI6Byq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy2 | Jul 24 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: GNOME Software | Tux Machines | Jul 24 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/fvOEh9E6VR | Jul 24 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7qy3 | Jul 24 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 24 07:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/Q0f32HYTFB | Jul 24 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 24 07:56 | |
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| schestowitz | >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=opendocument+format&hl=en | Jul 24 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | opendocument format - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/n7ppz ] | Jul 24 08:07 | |
| schestowitz | >> >> | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | >> >> still missing the Document Foundation's announcement there in their index | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | > > In what sense? It is imperative to have it appear higher? | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Hmm. That's a problem with Google searches, they appear different | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | depending on who and where one searches. For me, the Document | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Foundation's pages have never shown up and certainly not in the time | Jul 24 08:07 |
| schestowitz | since the recent announcement. | Jul 24 08:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/Wbenn1knUe | Jul 24 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jul 24 08:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/C8o22Nzpz5 | Jul 24 08:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 08:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sony testing 'stripped back, vanilla' Android | Jul 24 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Swedish Xperia users | Jul 24 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wOcKaaYa2u (www.zdnet.com) | Jul 24 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Sony testing 'stripped back, vanilla' Android with Swedish Xperia users | ZDNet | Jul 24 08:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Android is a fantastic platform to develop | Jul 24 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for." http://t.co/B30O0tSdkK | Jul 24 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Top rookie Android developer mistakes | Jul 24 09:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jul 24 09:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Line Launches Lightweight Version Of Its Chat | Jul 24 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | App For Emerging Market Android Phones | Jul 24 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XpeSinMNri (techcrunch.com) | Jul 24 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Line Launches Lightweight Version Of Its Chat App For Emerging Market Android Phones | TechCrunch | Jul 24 09:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n7rgj | Jul 24 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet the app that fans are calling ‘the best | Jul 24 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | thing that ever happened to Android’ | Jul 24 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jC48GShb6w (bgr.com) | Jul 24 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android apps: Nova Launcher earns wide acclaim | BGR | Jul 24 09:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381235 | Jul 24 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even people inside #microsoft tell me that #vista10 is not ready. This is going to hurt. http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/vista-10-will-definitely-fail/ | Jul 24 14:17 | |
| schestowitz | "A long time Microsoft fan told me that Vista 8 “does not work,” and “It’s not functional, there are things it just can’t do.” Windows is a train wreck." | Jul 24 14:17 |
| schestowitz | People at Microsoft don't use Vista 8.... it's SHIT. | Jul 24 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Run Out of Attempts and Vista 10 Will Definitely Fail | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7lf2 ] | Jul 24 14:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6380979 | Jul 24 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HP's ZDI discloses 4 new vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer http://www.infoworld.com/article/2951738/patch-management/hp-s-zdi-discloses-four-new-vulnerabilities-in-internet-explorer.html does anyone with brains still use it? | Jul 24 14:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | HP's ZDI discloses 4 new vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/n7va5 ] | Jul 24 14:18 | |
| schestowitz | "There are still vendor supplied IE6 specific software that will not work outside of IE. One of my vendors at work told me one of their pieces of software might work with IE8 but no other browser, including the IE 11 that Microsoft had shoved onto most of the computers. This just highlights the fact that vendors who use Microsoft don’t care about their customers and that Microsoft does not care about anyone." | Jul 24 14:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381079 | Jul 24 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Huge Package Overhaul for #Debian and #Ubuntu http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/huge-package-overhaul-debian-and-ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jul 24 14:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Huge Package Overhaul for Debian and Ubuntu | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/n7vaq ] | Jul 24 14:19 | |
| schestowitz | "I hate churn like this. It means that you won’t be able to mix binary packages from some future version of Debian with current versions. That’s something that has worked well for me for 15 years. I still have a copy of gqview, from Lenny or Squeeze, because the official package had mutated into things I did not like as much." | Jul 24 14:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381334 | Jul 24 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Amazon Liable For IP Violations By Its Marketplace Vendors? http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericgoldman/2015/07/23/is-amazon-liable-for-ip-violations-by-its-marketplace-vendors/ what about #ddos ? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/07/02/aws-ddos-and-stonewalling/ | Jul 24 14:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Is Amazon Liable For IP Violations By Its Marketplace Vendors? - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/n7vb4 ] | Jul 24 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I smell a double standard brewing." | Jul 24 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon Says I Need to Sue in Order to Merely Find Out Who Uses Their Own Facilities (AWS) to Attack My Site [ http://ur1.ca/mzb2e ] | Jul 24 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381012 | Jul 24 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It doesn't seem to be a Chinese or Japanese thing to use girls (like objects) to sell gadgets (objects). #korea and #taiwan do this. [1/2] | Jul 24 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | "I would like to know where that does not happen." | Jul 24 14:20 |
| schestowitz | Not fashionable in Europe these days because "women's rights" | Jul 24 14:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6380939 | Jul 24 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I will believe there is a GENUINE employment problem in the #uk when billionaire companies like #bt pay decent wage for eSupport staff IN UK | Jul 24 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 14:22 |
| schestowitz | I’m not sure but will assume you mean there is a shortage of engineers there, for things very complex as REIN. | Jul 24 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Engineering in Banana Republic is one of the best paid professions, and IT among the best. There are very few professions that pay more like medicine, and beyond that you have to be entrepreneur, politician, football player or something like that to earn more. | Jul 24 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Everybody know that, and also everybody know that careers like accountancy are so saturated that recent graduates earn not even the minimum wage, and even so people keep choosing traditional careers. And the most common reason I have heard: accountancy is easy. | Jul 24 14:22 |
| schestowitz | When people complain that engineers are paid too much it’s hard to me to agree, at least in Banana Republic. | Jul 24 14:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 24 14:22 |
| schestowitz | BT outsources many simple jobs to other countries, instead of employing locally | Jul 24 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle tries to beef up copyright case against | Jul 24 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/Pvvaxs4aNv | Jul 24 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle tries to beef up copyright case against Android | Tux Machines | Jul 24 14:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 22: Fresh Install Script (Ongoing | Jul 24 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development) http://t.co/EquzUgKF7D | Jul 24 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.smittix.co.uk) | Jul 24 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smittix.co.uk | Fedora 22: Fresh Install Script (Ongoing Development) | Smittix | Jul 24 14:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6382630 | Jul 24 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bssed on what I hear, #Purism (Librem) is "Pure PR" and RMS is going to publicly chastise them. Not sure if true, but seems likely. | Jul 24 14:32 | |
| schestowitz | "Is it really “Pure PR” or something like 99% FLOSS but not fully Free? They make it clear it’s not really pure." | Jul 24 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure, I said what I heard | Jul 24 14:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | still not consumer-ready http://t.co/RYcsrWcqiY | Jul 24 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.engadget.com) | Jul 24 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Jul 24 15:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ipullappus favourited 'Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but...' | Jul 24 15:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Transforms into a PC with Just a | Jul 24 15:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bluetooth Mouse - Video http://t.co/hltHItXTwz | Jul 24 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Transforms into a PC with Just a Bluetooth Mouse - Video - Softpedia | Jul 24 15:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android rocks out with a new Marshall | Jul 24 15:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartphone for music lovers | Jul 24 15:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ryxDpfa17w (www.techrepublic.com) | Jul 24 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android rocks out with a new Marshall smartphone for music lovers - TechRepublic | Jul 24 15:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Last Christmas was a wake-up call for | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retailers. GNU/Linux sold well, and “8.1” did | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | not" http://t.co/Y9xVdKUPoQ (mrpogson.com) | Jul 24 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Jack Wallen Gets It | Robert Pogson | Jul 24 16:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets New Event Medals and Lots | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Fixes http://t.co/2dtH3dzqNE | Jul 24 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets New Event Medals and Lots of Fixes - Softpedia | Jul 24 16:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Calibre Gets Support for the Crazy Expensive | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Fun SONY DPT-S1 http://t.co/Tbq5jieVs5 | Jul 24 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre Gets Support for the Crazy Expensive and Fun SONY DPT-S1 - Softpedia | Jul 24 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 24 16:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NBD Vulnerabilities Fixed in All Supported | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/kq51HJ9Yvv | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NBD Vulnerabilities Fixed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux Machines | Jul 24 16:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | still not consumer-ready http://t.co/Y4euFhCyXV | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Tux Machines | Jul 24 16:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Container standards: Patching over the cracks | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/E0WfL9VEjo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Container standards: Patching over the cracks | Tux Machines | Jul 24 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Jul 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6bj6E1Qedo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Tux Machines | Jul 24 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/vZPictJtS6 | Jul 24 16:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 24 16:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With | Jul 24 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rackspace for OpenStack http://t.co/jK2uybj4Uc | Jul 24 16:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With Rackspace for OpenStack | Techrights | Jul 24 16:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but | Jul 24 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by still not consumer-ready http://t.co/RYcsrWcqiY | Jul 24 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux (www.engadget.com) | Jul 24 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready | Jul 24 17:08 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @speedytux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but...' | Jul 24 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | I heard that the core argument takes place in the #libreboot IRC channel on FreeNode. I don't know all the details. | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | > Attaching my pgp key here... | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Hello Roy, | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> I was forwarded your tweet, and wanted to get in front of any concerns | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> you have about our current status, our intentions, and our beliefs. | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Would you mind sharing any concerns you may have? | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Any free software supporter has directly aligned beliefs with us, so I | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> want to make sure any concerns are addressed personally. | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> Thanks so much! | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jul 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 24 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An inlaid GNOME logo https://t.co/vrodL9rLu6 | Jul 24 17:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/4nnf1SEarT | Jul 24 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jul 24 17:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/iuTFK9bEVC | Jul 24 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 24 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 17:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/UaHKI92U5g | Jul 24 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jul 24 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/9o76szWoEa | Jul 24 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 24 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Where AMD's Catalyst Driver Does The Best On | Jul 24 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux http://t.co/JGNpLtvUjM (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 24 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Where AMD's Catalyst Driver Does The Best On Linux - Phoronix | Jul 24 17:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics | Jul 24 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Better For Skylake | Jul 24 18:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements, Better For Skylake - Phoronix | Jul 24 18:07 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements,...' | Jul 24 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/624701058229665793 https://twitter.com/xavierhmaillard/status/624702112778309632 | Jul 24 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Response to #ukipo consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement https://t.co/XjYyMqYdnI crazy stuff! | Jul 24 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Response to IPO consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement | Jul 24 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xavierhmaillard: @schestowitz thanks for sharing! I've highlighted you on my @RebelMouse http://t.co/xWvbOzfzoi | Jul 24 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rebelmouse.com | xavie | Jul 24 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ShShamilton57/status/624706594358493184 | Jul 24 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ShShamilton57: @schestowitz This one is easy. All you have to do is be a racist who thinks that all humans not like you are subhuman. So called Christians! | Jul 24 18:31 | |
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| Lirodon | you know what I've wondered? why anyone hasn't tried to make a fork of suse that is more, well, let's just say ... Novell-free | Jul 24 19:27 |
| cubexyz | you could just use slackware, which SUSE was derived from | Jul 24 19:34 |
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| msb_ | I wonder what Lirodon meant by Novell-free? But less than 45min after asking his question, he's gone. | Jul 24 20:11 |
| cubexyz | oops | Jul 24 20:19 |
| cubexyz | firefox just KOed all my extensions | Jul 24 20:20 |
| cubexyz | it seems it sticks old stuff into "Old Firefox Data" | Jul 24 20:21 |
| cubexyz | well this should be interesting | Jul 24 20:24 |
| cubexyz | I'll have to re-study what is up with Novell and SUSE | Jul 24 21:13 |
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| cubexyz | the java update hoses everything | Jul 24 22:34 |
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| cubexyz | when I click on a java applet does it store the applet on my computer somewhere? | Jul 25 00:08 |
| cubexyz | ugh, that was quite a nest set of software issues | Jul 25 00:11 |
| cubexyz | s/nest/nested/ | Jul 25 00:14 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, was your reference to Banana Republic the UK as in the Boomtown Rats song or to Australia where the term had some use when Paul Keating was treasurer and later Prime Minister | Jul 25 00:15 |
| amarsh04 | ? | Jul 25 00:15 |
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| cubexyz | banada republic implies a politically unstable country | Jul 25 00:25 |
| cubexyz | banana | Jul 25 00:25 |
| cubexyz | could be just about anywhere :) | Jul 25 00:25 |
| amarsh04 | true... | Jul 25 00:26 |
| cubexyz | there's also the rather nasty history of the Cuyamel Fruit Company | Jul 25 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics | Jul 25 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Better For Skylake | Jul 25 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tg49H8jQpT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 02:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.3 Will Have Many Intel Graphics Improvements, Better For Skylake | Tux Machines | Jul 25 02:08 | |
| amarsh04 | agreed, cubexyz | Jul 25 02:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: banana reference is also something else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batu_Lintang_camp | Jul 25 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Batu Lintang camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n82tu ] | Jul 25 02:35 | |
| oiaohm | People forget about the Banana Money reference. | Jul 25 02:35 |
| cubexyz | the more I learn about history the more I realize how nasty things were in the past | Jul 25 02:41 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Paul Keating with the usage of Banana Replublic lines up with Banana money. | Jul 25 02:41 |
| oiaohm | Of course at the end of the war since japanene lost all the banana money was absolutely worthless. | Jul 25 02:42 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: I made no such reference | Jul 25 03:47 |
| schestowitz | maybe I quoted something | Jul 25 03:47 |
| schestowitz | likely Cronos regarding his country, Mexico | Jul 25 03:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6381235 | Jul 25 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even people inside #microsoft tell me that #vista10 is not ready. This is going to hurt. http://techrights.org/2015/07/23/vista-10-will-definitely-fail/ | Jul 25 03:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Their partners use GNU/Linux for XKeyscore. You have to wonder how the folks at Microsoft get anything done if they are using any version of Vista." | Jul 25 03:47 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I will not say Windows 10 will definitely fail. | Jul 25 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Run Out of Attempts and Vista 10 Will Definitely Fail | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n7lf2 ] | Jul 25 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | what would you say? | Jul 25 03:48 |
| schestowitz | in revenue terms, it's not looking good | Jul 25 03:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6383685 | Jul 25 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Response to #ukipo consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-ipo-consultation-on-raising-jail-sentences-for-online-infringement crazy stuff! | Jul 25 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 25 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Response to IPO consultation on raising jail sentences for online infringement [ http://ur1.ca/n83hx ] | Jul 25 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | IPO has stressed that the proposals would be targeted to ensure that only criminals who cause intentional serious harm are targeted | Jul 25 03:49 |
| schestowitz | This is the frightening thing about UK law - it is openly discriminatory and creates, intentionally, legal uncertainties. | Jul 25 03:49 |
| schestowitz | Thus it is still illegal to take photos of public buildings such as train stations, for security reasons, but it is “tolerated” after public protest and ridicule. | Jul 25 03:49 |
| schestowitz | So if the cops like your face, you can do something, but if they don’t, you end up in prison. | Jul 25 03:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 25 03:49 |
| schestowitz | Laws of the land by deterrence, like in Horrible Singapore | Jul 25 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Windows 10 due to the fact forced upgrade from Windows 7 and 8.1 will get market share. Ok maybe not profit for Microsoft | Jul 25 03:49 |
| cubexyz | it's the beginning of the end | Jul 25 03:49 |
| cubexyz | chromeboxes/books in many computer stores | Jul 25 03:50 |
| oiaohm | By the way things at looking the release after Windows 10 will be facing off against Linux with Wayland so able to tick more of the security boxes. | Jul 25 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Even chromebooks when they start running wayland will tick more security boxs. | Jul 25 03:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes looks like the beginning of the end is very correct. | Jul 25 03:51 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: with luck and careful management Microsoft might be able to turn the train wreck of Windows 10 around. | Jul 25 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Free upgrade ot Windows 10 does in fact help Microsoft bottom line. | Jul 25 03:52 |
| oiaohm | Not requiring as many staff to perform OS mantaince. | Jul 25 03:52 |
| oiaohm | Think about it Microsoft has to have a team doing Windows 8.1 updates and Windows 7 updates at the moment validating they have not busted anything. | Jul 25 03:52 |
| oiaohm | Then also a team doing XP updates because governments and the like have not moved. | Jul 25 03:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: all those teams are costs. | Jul 25 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines [Video] The Weather Network app running on | Jul 25 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Tizen Smart TV http://t.co/8yBfvm3ln3 | Jul 25 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jul 25 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | [Video] The Weather Network app running on Samsung Tizen Smart TV - Tizen Experts | Jul 25 04:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17/17.1 KDE and Xfce Users Can Now | Jul 25 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Upgrade to Linux Mint 17.2 | Jul 25 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/19TKNOXcYp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 04:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17/17.1 KDE and Xfce Users Can Now Upgrade to Linux Mint 17.2 | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Gets One Last | Jul 25 04:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel Update http://t.co/AP8ZOrnBH4 | Jul 25 04:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Gets One Last Linux Kernel Update | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stackable SBC sandwich runs Linux on ARM/FPGA | Jul 25 04:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Zynq SoC http://t.co/5GeFkJXZBz | Jul 25 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Stackable SBC sandwich runs Linux on ARM/FPGA Zynq SoC · LinuxGizmos.com | Jul 25 04:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable | Jul 25 04:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Jul 25 04:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | Dell Venue 8 Tablet, Nvidia Shield Portable jump ahead to Android 5.1 | Greenbot | Jul 25 04:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n83zg | Jul 25 04:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Holds Its Own in VDI | Jul 25 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/g3cxRM3osG (windowsitpro.com) | Jul 25 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Linux Holds Its Own in VDI | Desktop-VDI content from Windows IT Pro | Jul 25 04:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n8417 | Jul 25 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17/17.1 KDE and Xfce Users Can Now | Jul 25 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Upgrade to Linux Mint 17.2 | Jul 25 04:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint 17/17.1 KDE and Xfce Users Can Now Upgrade to Linux Mint 17.2 - Softpedia | Jul 25 04:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Gets One Last | Jul 25 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel Update http://t.co/bZxcTnuJcG | Jul 25 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) Gets One Last Linux Kernel Update - Softpedia | Jul 25 04:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plug A Mouse Into Your Ubuntu Phone And You | Jul 25 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Have A Computer http://t.co/s2dmTqAUcX | Jul 25 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxg.net) | Jul 25 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Plug A Mouse Into Your Ubuntu Phone And You Have A Computer | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 04:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/n844a | Jul 25 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It's Been A Great Month So Far For | Jul 25 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source/Linux Users http://t.co/czkOCR5EE1 | Jul 25 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) many breakthroughs. | Jul 25 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | It's Been A Great Month So Far For Open-Source/Linux Users - Phoronix | Jul 25 04:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics http://t.co/HzQiiR6BJv | Jul 25 04:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/fSs7PX97vQ | Jul 25 04:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Holds Its Own in VDI | Jul 25 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Holds Its Own in VDI | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NetSurf and OSCON http://t.co/yJhlGypzWQ | Jul 25 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetSurf and OSCON | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines We need the power of corporates, says OpenStack | Jul 25 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | exec http://t.co/jBciMvVFtT | Jul 25 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We need the power of corporates, says OpenStack exec | Tux Machines | Jul 25 04:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Arrives in A Coruña for Akademy | Jul 25 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aF4au9QLCT (dot.kde.org) | Jul 25 05:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Arrives in A Coruña for Akademy | KDE.news | Jul 25 05:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Full-Featured Mir 0.14 Update Finally Lands in | Jul 25 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch, Notes App Updated | Jul 25 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dx0Uwez8GH (linux.softpedia.com) | Jul 25 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Full-Featured Mir 0.14 Update Finally Lands in Ubuntu Touch, Notes App Updated - Softpedia | Jul 25 05:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Enlightenment 0.19.6 Desktop Environment | Jul 25 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arrives with Over 45 Bugfixes | Jul 25 05:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Enlightenment 0.19.6 Desktop Environment Arrives with Over 45 Bugfixes - Softpedia | Jul 25 05:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Windows booster's perspective: Inside the Vivid | Jul 25 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vervet – All About the Latest Ubuntu Release | Jul 25 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oM66HC208G (vmturbo.com) | Jul 25 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vmturbo.com | Inside the Vivid Vervet – All About the Latest Ubuntu Release - Virtualization Management Software & Data Center Control | VMTurbo | Jul 25 05:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME News Promises to Be an Unbelievable Feed | Jul 25 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reader for GNOME 3.18 - Video | Jul 25 05:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME News Promises to Be an Unbelievable Feed Reader for GNOME 3.18 - Video - Softpedia | Jul 25 05:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telephony | Jul 25 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Wi-Fi Hotspot, APN Editor | Jul 25 05:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telephony Improvements, Wi-Fi Hotspot, APN Editor - Softpedia | Jul 25 05:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6384833 | Jul 25 05:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Fedora 23 development is well underway. Last week, Fedora 23 branched from Rawhide, so that we can focus" http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-07-21/ #fedora | Jul 25 05:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org | Schedules for Flock and F23, Atomic & Workstation, DNF — and a Fedora job opening! - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/n84nr ] | Jul 25 05:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fun Open Source Games and Apps: 112 Top Picks | Jul 25 05:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Fun Open Source Games and Apps: 112 Top Picks - Datamation | Jul 25 05:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash | Jul 25 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Converters http://t.co/97LOTm45sk | Jul 25 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | The Lazarus Effect: Saved by Linux and Cash Converters • The Register | Jul 25 05:35 | |
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| msb_ | . | Jul 25 05:41 |
| msb_ | There is a flap going on on some of my mailing lists about a (relatively) new cure for cancer and autism, banned by the US govt, and doctors who used it being killed! | Jul 25 05:42 |
| msb_ | http://tatoott1009.com/2015/07/23/explosive-the-real-reason-holistic-doctors-are-being-killed-and-vanishing/ | Jul 25 05:42 |
| msb_ | No bot? | Jul 25 05:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that seams just like a fake news site. | Jul 25 05:44 |
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| msb_ | There's no way to tell that quickly. Lots of weird things are happening in the world. | Jul 25 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 24/7/2015: openSUSE Leap 42.1, Intel With | Jul 25 05:45 |
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| oiaohm | The problem I have even if a video exists that does not make it exactly true. | Jul 25 05:48 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: Of course. I didn't say it did. | Jul 25 05:49 |
| msb_ | I'm not vouching for this, just forwarding it. | Jul 25 05:50 |
| oiaohm | I grew up in an area with Australian bat lyssavirus being anti vaccination is fatal as the only cure to lyssavirus is rabies vaccine. | Jul 25 05:51 |
| oiaohm | So any doctor claiming anti vaccination I really do question how much medical study they have in fact done. | Jul 25 05:53 |
| oiaohm | A doctor demarding better controls on vaccination that is a sane medical choice. | Jul 25 05:53 |
| msb_ | Adequate Vitamin C seems to cure all virus infections. Even rabies (as tested on animals). | Jul 25 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Not Bat lyssavirus carrier bats eat fruit in huge volumes. | Jul 25 05:55 |
| oiaohm | Incrased Vitamin C dosage may see person dead sooner. | Jul 25 05:55 |
| msb_ | Here's the wiki page on GC-MAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gc-MAF | Jul 25 05:56 |
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| oiaohm | any protein based treatment has to be handle very careful. | Jul 25 05:58 |
| oiaohm | I have mafans this is where my body does not make a particular protein. | Jul 25 05:58 |
| oiaohm | I cannot be given the protein to treat my condition as that would be providing it in a unregulated way. | Jul 25 05:59 |
| oiaohm | Leading to major worse issues than not being treated at all. So I have a very good understanding of the risks with any of the protein treatments. | Jul 25 05:59 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so doctors and mental unstablity could have come from playing with Gc-MAF | Jul 25 06:01 |
| msb_ | Here's a report of vit. C used to treat rabies. | Jul 25 06:02 |
| oiaohm | Note I said Australian bat lyssavirus | Jul 25 06:02 |
| oiaohm | vit C controls normal rabies to a point. | Jul 25 06:02 |
| oiaohm | Australian bat Lyssavirus you put it replication into overdrive. | Jul 25 06:02 |
| oiaohm | So 30 days to 1 | Jul 25 06:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: It a illness without only 1 counter. | Jul 25 06:03 |
| msb_ | But that test was done with a C dosage of only about 15g/day for an adult human. The correct dose would be 10 to 20 times that much. | Jul 25 06:03 |
| oiaohm | The disease I mentioned is not rabies but a releation. | Jul 25 06:04 |
| msb_ | What is it that puts lyssavirus into replication? | Jul 25 06:04 |
| oiaohm | The normal rabies vaccine happens to work. | Jul 25 06:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: when lyssavirus is replicating it consuming all the vitime c and other items it can get it mits on. | Jul 25 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Australian bat lyssavirus is nasty because not only are you getting a lot of the symtompts of rabies you are also dieing of scurvy. | Jul 25 06:05 |
| msb_ | All viral infections deplete vitamin C, because C gets used up restoring the substance that white cells use for fighting viruses. | Jul 25 06:06 |
| msb_ | NADPH | Jul 25 06:06 |
| oiaohm | The virus itself is using vitamin c in the case of Australian bat lyssavirus | Jul 25 06:06 |
| msb_ | To fight a virus with C you have to give it faster than the white cells use it up. | Jul 25 06:06 |
| msb_ | please give a reference. | Jul 25 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Its in the cisro paper on it. | Jul 25 06:07 |
| msb_ | please give a reference. | Jul 25 06:07 |
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| msb_ | If C decreases during a lyssavirus infection, that's explainable by the body using it up to restore NADPH. | Jul 25 06:08 |
| msb_ | If you have a reference that says the virus itself destroys C, please give it. | Jul 25 06:09 |
| oiaohm | http://conditions.health.qld.gov.au/HealthConditions/2/Infections-Parasites/41/Viral-Infections/979/Australian-Bat-Lyssavirus I can find this one but the one that says it is a cisro virus reseach paper. | Jul 25 06:09 |
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| msb_ | C goes extremely low during an ebola infection. | Jul 25 06:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the protines that make up bat lyssavirus transport shell include C | Jul 25 06:10 |
| msb_ | How does the paper prove that the virus itself destroys C, rather than C being used up by white cells. | Jul 25 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Basically you need to program the body to take it out before it over runs the system. | Jul 25 06:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: disasmbling the virus seeing what is making it up. | Jul 25 06:11 |
| oiaohm | And trying to work out why it was so fatal. | Jul 25 06:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically bat lyssavirus has a method for stopping your white cells without attacking them. Simply consume the materials they need. | Jul 25 06:16 |
| oiaohm | So it it has a true point of no return once you are infected past a particular point you are dead. | Jul 25 06:17 |
| msb_ | Here is a pdf from CSIRO: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=NB07050.pdf | Jul 25 06:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is general CSIRO not CSIRO virus research lab. | Jul 25 06:18 |
| msb_ | Well, if you know a better one, please tell us. | Jul 25 06:19 |
| msb_ | Note spelling is CSIRO not CISRO | Jul 25 06:20 |
| oiaohm | Australian Animal Health Laboratory in Geelong, Victoria is where you are looking for papers from. Problem is I might have read this papper while I was inside aarnet | Jul 25 06:22 |
| msb_ | I am just looking on advanced google. | Jul 25 06:23 |
| oiaohm | https://www.aarnet.edu.au/ is a network between univeristeies and research areas in Australia. | Jul 25 06:24 |
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| oiaohm | Not everything hosted there is exposed on internet and shows up in google. Yes there is an aarnet search engine. | Jul 25 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Being the exact contruction paper I would suspect its not on the internet msb_ | Jul 25 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Good bit about bat lyssavirus as long as you get shot soon after infection you will be fine. | Jul 25 06:26 |
| oiaohm | Human body is very impression when it know what it is meant to be killing. | Jul 25 06:27 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Even I can receive aarnet, but I don't know how to search on it. | Jul 25 06:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: sections of aarnet are private cloud groups. | Jul 25 06:29 |
| oiaohm | Ie members only access | Jul 25 06:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please search on aarnet for --- vitamin C and bat-lyssavirus | Jul 25 06:29 |
| oiaohm | I don't have a login from where I am. | Jul 25 06:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please search on aarnet for --- vitamin-C and bat-lyssavirus | Jul 25 06:29 |
| oiaohm | since I am not in the reseach program on that at the moment. | Jul 25 06:30 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a lot of information on viruses that USA, Australia.... every one else keep secured on the fear that someone might use the data to make a super virus. | Jul 25 06:32 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: It would help for those who are anti-vacciune if they could see some of it censored removing key details. | Jul 25 06:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: key details being absolutely exact contruction. | Jul 25 06:34 |
| msb_ | Oops looks like I did not give the url of the article about C greatly increasing rabies survival at 15g/day human dose, when the correct dose would be 150g/day. | Jul 25 06:35 |
| msb_ | http://injectablevitaminc.com/images/Ch23.pdf | Jul 25 06:35 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I remember the difference because doing the collection of samples we were told not to incrase C intake. | Jul 25 06:36 |
| oiaohm | And not to follow rabies instructions. | Jul 25 06:36 |
| msb_ | I wish you could find that info, because it is unique among all viruses. | Jul 25 06:37 |
| oiaohm | I can tell you it not unique there are a few other Australian viruses with the same warning. Unique to Australia | Jul 25 06:37 |
| msb_ | Please give a ref to any of them! | Jul 25 06:39 |
| oiaohm | They all have a commonality of being bat carried diseases in Australia. | Jul 25 06:39 |
| oiaohm | The make details of them would all be in the same cloud section. | Jul 25 06:40 |
| msb_ | Not being in Oz, I would not take a vaccine for any common virus infection. | Jul 25 06:42 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, thanks for the reference re Banana republics | Jul 25 06:42 |
| msb_ | I know personally that C works great for flu, colds, and measles. | Jul 25 06:42 |
| msb_ | Plus there are refs for polio and many other viruses. | Jul 25 06:43 |
| msb_ | Whereas vaccines can cause terrible harm to a few people. | Jul 25 06:43 |
| oiaohm | http://www.malariaworld.org/blog/vitamin-c-and-malaria-beware | Jul 25 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.malariaworld.org | Vitamin C and malaria: beware! | MalariaWorld [ http://ur1.ca/n85ei ] | Jul 25 06:44 | |
| msb_ | Antibacterial vaccines I might take. | Jul 25 06:44 |
| oiaohm | Also msb_ you don't live where you have malaria | Jul 25 06:44 |
| oiaohm | Because vitamin c also send malaria into overdrive. | Jul 25 06:44 |
| oiaohm | This is the catch Vitamin C for lots of viruses help the body defeat it.(yes there are some exceptions) There are a lot of other infections where Vitamin C helps the infection. | Jul 25 06:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes classic example of too much of a good thing can be extreamly bad for you. | Jul 25 06:47 |
| oiaohm | So yes the recommendation to take C without understanding what the person has could be just as harmful as giving someone a vaccine without checking compadiblity first. | Jul 25 06:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I am against the random injecting of vaccines. But I am not against vaccines being used with proper compadiblity checking. | Jul 25 06:49 |
| msb_ | Apparently C causes increased iron intake which causes increased red blood cell production. Since malaria parsites live and multiply in RBCs in one stage of their life cycle, C increases malaria replication. | Jul 25 06:52 |
| oiaohm | I wish I could find the one with the flesh eating bacteria and possitive boost by vit C | Jul 25 06:53 |
| oiaohm | boost to the bacteria not the human | Jul 25 06:54 |
| msb_ | OK that's _two_ diseases -- bat lyssavirus and malaria -- in which Vitamin C is harmful. But it is greatly beneficial in all other viral infections, and helpful in bacterial infections. | Jul 25 06:54 |
| msb_ | should have said increased iron uptake, not intake | Jul 25 06:55 |
| oiaohm | bacterial it can be helpful to the some bacteria infections. | Jul 25 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Most common it helpful to is the bacteria that causes gut issues that we use to take anti acids for before we found it was a bacteria. | Jul 25 06:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that is the thing taking anything outside moderation has risks. | Jul 25 06:57 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember infections like flesheaters this include the gut one I cannot remember it name the human immune system is not good at dealling with. | Jul 25 06:59 |
| msb_ | Animals other than apes and guinea pigs produce up to 70grams/day of vitamin C per 150lbs body weight if they have a severe viral disease. | Jul 25 06:59 |
| msb_ | So doses of 100grams/day of C are within moderation. | Jul 25 06:59 |
| msb_ | for an adult human | Jul 25 06:59 |
| oiaohm | As long as you are not getting it by other sources. | Jul 25 07:00 |
| oiaohm | 100grams would be your total intack limit. | Jul 25 07:00 |
| msb_ | It's impossible to get 100g/day of C from food | Jul 25 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Not impossible. | Jul 25 07:00 |
| oiaohm | There are a few fruits that can do that. | Jul 25 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Mind you todo it you would need most likely to eat http://www.fruitsinfo.com/miracle-fruit.php | Jul 25 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fruitsinfo.com | Miracle fruit | Synsepalum dulcificum | Miracle Berry, Health benefits, History of the fruit [ http://ur1.ca/n85lm ] | Jul 25 07:03 | |
| oiaohm | so you could ingore the acidity. | Jul 25 07:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Notice the "For diabetic patients" there. They can be consuming a lot higher acid levels than normal people do with nasty long term side effects. | Jul 25 07:06 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I guess you are now seeing where the problem comes in when you have Australians with all the strangeness in plants and creatures we have. | Jul 25 07:07 |
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| Illllllll | Hi | Jul 25 07:09 |
| XRevan86 | Illllllll: hi | Jul 25 07:09 |
| msb_ | There is nothing in the Miracle Fruit article saying that it has a lot of Vitamin C. Just that it fucks up your taste buds something awful so that everything tastes sweet for hours. | Jul 25 07:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Its not that it has a lot of Vitamin C it makes eating complete meals filled with stuff containing high vitamin C possible. | Jul 25 07:10 |
| oiaohm | Where other wise you would not be able todo it. | Jul 25 07:10 |
| Illllllll | Great site | Jul 25 07:10 |
| Illllllll | For the first time here | Jul 25 07:11 |
| XRevan86 | Illllllll: :) | Jul 25 07:12 |
| oiaohm | Illllllll: I guess there is no particular meaning to that name selection? | Jul 25 07:12 |
| msb_ | a 1-grain saccharin tablet in a cup of water with 5 grams of C tastes fine. Not too acidic. But you still have to rinse off your teeth afterward with an alkaline solution like a little MgCO3 in water. | Jul 25 07:13 |
| Illllllll | No meaning... | Jul 25 07:14 |
| msb_ | Illllllll: The actual proper topic is free (GPL) software like GNU/Linux and the disadvantages of software patents, DRM, and other corporate inhibitions to free computer use and info exchange. | Jul 25 07:15 |
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| msb_ | But sometimes people will post little-known info of particular value, in this case cures for diseases that the corporate media and govts try to suppress. | Jul 25 07:17 |
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| Illlllllll | I have a question about vit C.... | Jul 25 07:19 |
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| msb_ | Illlllllll: What is your question? | Jul 25 07:21 |
| Illlllllll | I saw you were chatting about C vit.. i know it is a tech channel | Jul 25 07:22 |
| Illlllllll | Ok, a question. What happens with vit C when you put it in a very hot tea? | Jul 25 07:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_ferdinandiana Remember I said Australian that 5 gram C you will get for sure from 200 grams of this. | Jul 25 07:24 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: and if the fruit is really good 10 g from 200 grams | Jul 25 07:24 |
| oiaohm | msb_: stuff you face full of them 100g in a day is more than possible. | Jul 25 07:24 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but to tollerate eating them in volume you need mircale berry. | Jul 25 07:26 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: C will absorb oxygen from the air or from liquids, and chemical reactions are speeded up by heat. So you should not put it in hot tea and leave it for a long time. | Jul 25 07:26 |
| msb_ | When C absorbs O2 it becomes permanently inactive. | Jul 25 07:27 |
| Illlllllll | Ok. So heating dos it to C vit? How long does it take? A minute? Seconds...? | Jul 25 07:28 |
| Illlllllll | Let me say, put 2000mg C vit in a hot tea. | Jul 25 07:28 |
| Illlllllll | Will be there any C vit after 10 minutes? | Jul 25 07:29 |
| oiaohm | There is a lot of research on this. | Jul 25 07:29 |
| msb_ | Illlllllll: I wouldn't leave it for more than a couple of minutes. | Jul 25 07:29 |
| oiaohm | The tea does not need to be that hot to destroy vit C. But vit C does not break down quickly no matter what. | Jul 25 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Short very hot exposure is way better for vit C than long term at lower temp. | Jul 25 07:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you would have to eat a pound of that fruit to get 25grams of C. That would probably give you screaming diarrhea. And you might need several times that much C to fight a serious virus. Best to get ascorbic acid powder in a jar. | Jul 25 07:30 |
| Illlllllll | i see.... good to know! Thanks... A sevond one: what happenes to vit C exposed directly to the sun? Sorry for questions.. | Jul 25 07:31 |
| oiaohm | The fact that vit C breaks down is a issue that people going into shops buying what is so called fresh fruit that has been frozen for years could in fact have no vit C left | Jul 25 07:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I grew up in a citrus area end up with bad diarrhea because you got into fruit too much as not exactly strange. | Jul 25 07:33 |
| msb_ | This company sells bulk ascorbic acid a couple times a year for about 10USD/lb. -- half price. http://purebulk.com/ Get on their mailing list. | Jul 25 07:33 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: I said 100 gram was possible by eating I did not say it was a wise thing todo. | Jul 25 07:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: 1K of vit C a day by just eating stuff is truly impossible. | Jul 25 07:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: also you have to remember having something pure is not exactly good if the body lacks the chemicals to process it properly. | Jul 25 07:36 |
| msb_ | For extremely dangerous viruses like ebola, one might want 500g/day of C as sodium ascorbate given intravenously. | Jul 25 07:36 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and a few other things in the drip as well. | Jul 25 07:36 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so that the C processes effectively. | Jul 25 07:37 |
| oiaohm | A drip will all the chemicals you body need to make anti-bodies would be such a useful thing. | Jul 25 07:37 |
| cubexyz | yeah it would be great if there was a food bar that had everything you need in it :) | Jul 25 07:38 |
| msb_ | I think one doctor adds glutathione. That may be necessary to enable C to regenerate NADP to NADPH. | Jul 25 07:38 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Pizza comes pretty close. | Jul 25 07:38 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember more vit C than you body can use your kiddneys will cop it. | Jul 25 07:39 |
| msb_ | cop it? | Jul 25 07:39 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so no point curing the cold at the price of the kiddneys. | Jul 25 07:39 |
| oiaohm | msb_: high acidic in kiddneys scar them. | Jul 25 07:39 |
| msb_ | more C than you need given orally is just not absorbed from the intestine, and causes diarrhea. | Jul 25 07:40 |
| oiaohm | That is given orally not by drip. | Jul 25 07:40 |
| msb_ | Thus you can adjust the oral dose by increasing until diarrhea occurs and then backing off a little. | Jul 25 07:40 |
| oiaohm | Oral dosage of C has natural safe gards. | Jul 25 07:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically as soon as you go intranvenously you have to be a lot more careful you have bipassed a safetly system. | Jul 25 07:42 |
| msb_ | Maybe you can measure the redox potential of the urine and make sure it is not strongly reducing, indicating dumping of unused C. | Jul 25 07:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: due to bladder delay you could be looking at kiddey damage by the time that shows it. | Jul 25 07:43 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: can you give a ref on C causing kidney damage and how fast and in what dosage? | Jul 25 07:44 |
| msb_ | IV | Jul 25 07:44 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: acute renal failure is a documented side effect of too much C | Jul 25 07:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: even by oral. | Jul 25 07:46 |
| msb_ | It's a shame Dr Robert Cathcart has passed. He as the expert on IV C. | Jul 25 07:46 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Please give a ref. | Jul 25 07:46 |
| msb_ | was | Jul 25 07:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the 6 sites so far are passworded. | Jul 25 07:46 |
| oiaohm | Cannot give my useal.s | Jul 25 07:47 |
| msb_ | Why would a webstie be passworded? | Jul 25 07:47 |
| oiaohm | msb_: medical journals and so on like like charging. | Jul 25 07:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/vitamin-c/safety/hrb-20060322 | Jul 25 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mayoclinic.org | Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) Safety - Mayo Clinic [ http://ur1.ca/n862x ] | Jul 25 07:48 | |
| oiaohm | Ok that one is open to public and does not mention it all. | Jul 25 07:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: kidney stones what is mentioned is nasty. --red blood cell destruction-- Yes absolute killer is mentioned when you are way over | Jul 25 07:50 |
| cubexyz | hack it | Jul 25 07:50 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically Vit C is not 100 percent safe. | Jul 25 07:50 |
| oiaohm | particularly if you put it in IV and don't supervise it very carefully. | Jul 25 07:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: without question badly managed Vit C usage is just as if not more dangours than vaccuines. | Jul 25 07:52 |
| oiaohm | Miss manage either you will kill a person. | Jul 25 07:53 |
| oiaohm | msb_: you know people die from drinking too much water without the matching ammount of salt. | Jul 25 07:53 |
| msb_ | I and tens of millions of others have taken 5-10 grams/day of C with no ill effects for decades. | Jul 25 07:53 |
| msb_ | That is the amount that healthy animals of human body weight make for themselves. | Jul 25 07:54 |
| msb_ | During a viral infection they make up to 70g/day. | Jul 25 07:54 |
| cubexyz | I think drinking too much water will actually dilute the blood | Jul 25 07:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: but your 500g/day example would possibly kill person. | Jul 25 07:55 |
| msb_ | Not if the viral infection was so serious that that amount of C was being used up every day to reconstitute NADPH. | Jul 25 07:55 |
| cubexyz | hyponatremia is the medical term | Jul 25 07:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember when the virus starts being beaten the C consume rate will drop. | Jul 25 07:56 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, another example of mixing Latin and Greek :) | Jul 25 07:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and if you don't adjust at the right point say dead human. | Jul 25 07:56 |
| msb_ | Without adequate NADPH, the white cells can't fight a serious virus, and the person will definitely die. | Jul 25 07:56 |
| oiaohm | msb_: and too much C in body person will definitely die as well. | Jul 25 07:57 |
| oiaohm | so it a balance. | Jul 25 07:57 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: People and doctors who use large doses of C orally and IV do NOT report any adverse effects. | Jul 25 07:57 |
| msb_ | If it's used for the duration of a serious viral infection. | Jul 25 07:57 |
| oiaohm | The key thing is if it stopped at the right point. | Jul 25 07:58 |
| oiaohm | The are record deaths where doctor made mistake. | Jul 25 07:58 |
| msb_ | What they report is that the person lived, which skeptics did not expect. | Jul 25 07:58 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: with C? | Jul 25 07:58 |
| oiaohm | There are conrner reports where C dosages have killed. | Jul 25 07:58 |
| oiaohm | This is a side of the C use to treat viruses that is not talked about. | Jul 25 07:59 |
| oiaohm | That the C dosage must be stopped at the right point. | Jul 25 07:59 |
| oiaohm | If it high. | Jul 25 07:59 |
| msb_ | It should be tapered down as less is needed. | Jul 25 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Ideal would be something like a insulan pump design for C monitoring the blood level live. | Jul 25 08:00 |
| oiaohm | And auto cutting off. | Jul 25 08:00 |
| oiaohm | But a lot of current methods for virus treament that some of these doctors are using are really using russian rollette | Jul 25 08:01 |
| oiaohm | msb_: remember you body fighting illness is not exactly predictable its like predicting the outcome of a battle field. | Jul 25 08:02 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Are you sure you know what you are talking about? I have read many articles on the usage of high-dose C, and none of them has mentioned it injuring the patient. | Jul 25 08:03 |
| msb_ | The important thing to remember is NEVER use systemd! | Jul 25 08:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I have looked up Coroners Reports on deaths. Something to remember when a doctor does get done for some strange non main stream stunt and it causes a death they get struck off. | Jul 25 08:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so you don't see papers normally from doctors who have caused deaths. | Jul 25 08:05 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the bad outcomes leading to Coroner reports says with vit C we need a lot more control for it to be safe. | Jul 25 08:06 |
| oiaohm | With the right investment vit C for viruses could be a safe thing. With current methods IV methods it been unsafe. | Jul 25 08:07 |
| msb_ | Mainstream medicine is run by big pharma companies that want to discourage the use of C in order to keep people sicker and sell more drugs. | Jul 25 08:07 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the system I am sitting on is running systemd without major trouble. | Jul 25 08:07 |
| msb_ | Yeah, it could burn your ass at any moment! | Jul 25 08:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: unlikely. | Jul 25 08:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: my system is more stable on systemd than it was under sysvinit. | Jul 25 08:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the other system here that is openrc is also quite good. | Jul 25 08:09 |
| oiaohm | the big discourage to using C is the death outcomes and the fact that no one has been putting up devices to prevent the error. | Jul 25 08:10 |
| oiaohm | Of course big pharma are not interesting in investing in developing those machines. | Jul 25 08:10 |
| msb_ | Unless the patient has severe kidney disease or is an oxalate stone-former, if they have a severe virus that could kill them they are in much more danger from the virus than from IV C. | Jul 25 08:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: did you miss too much C destroys blood cells. | Jul 25 08:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: particularly red ones. | Jul 25 08:12 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so you cannot take a breath. | Jul 25 08:12 |
| oiaohm | C not controlled properly is as dangerous if not more dangerous than the virus. | Jul 25 08:13 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: your worries are contrary to everyone's experience. | Jul 25 08:13 |
| oiaohm | Have you look for those that did not live in the Coroners Reports | Jul 25 08:14 |
| msb_ | But if you want to die from some hemorrhagic fever instead of taking enough C to kill it, then, well, good luck. | Jul 25 08:14 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I would pre not to have to gamble my life to take the C need to kill it. | Jul 25 08:15 |
| msb_ | If there were a significant number of coroner's reports indicating death by C, the drug companies and govt would use them to ban C. | Jul 25 08:15 |
| msb_ | or at least ban jars of bulk C powder. | Jul 25 08:16 |
| oiaohm | Its why any doctor using high dosage IV C is in frowned on as doing that is in fact forbin. | Jul 25 08:16 |
| msb_ | too many spelling errors | Jul 25 08:17 |
| oiaohm | Low doesage msb_ on the other hand is not becaus the documentation says it harmless. | Jul 25 08:17 |
| msb_ | you are not making sense | Jul 25 08:17 |
| msb_ | please check your spelling and grammar | Jul 25 08:18 |
| oiaohm | Vit C is not banned on supply because it documented safe in low usage. | Jul 25 08:18 |
| oiaohm | Vit C in high dosage IV is in fact forbid. The doctors using have caused death. | Jul 25 08:18 |
| msb_ | Then it could be banned in anything bigger than 50mg pills, which the FDA tries to do every decade or so. | Jul 25 08:19 |
| msb_ | But you can't give any refs. | Jul 25 08:19 |
| msb_ | If C caused many deaths, the sale of 1Kg jars would be banned. | Jul 25 08:20 |
| msb_ | Pharma would love that, because they could make more billions in profit from symptomatic cold and flu remedies. | Jul 25 08:21 |
| oiaohm | msb_: note what I said about body normal protection system. | Jul 25 08:22 |
| msb_ | But when the FDA tried to do that in the 1990s, a _Republican_ senator forced them to stop. | Jul 25 08:23 |
| oiaohm | eating the stuff the body only protection system kicked in before you get to blood destroying in most cases. | Jul 25 08:23 |
| oiaohm | So baning 1KG powerder is not the issue. | Jul 25 08:23 |
| oiaohm | its IV usage | Jul 25 08:23 |
| oiaohm | Where you have bipassed a natural safegaurd. | Jul 25 08:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically when ever you by pass a natural safe guard with vititams you need to be very careful. | Jul 25 08:24 |
| msb_ | Apparently some doctors mix jars of sodium ascorbate with distilled water and inject that IV. Cathcart treated hundreds or thousands of people that way and was not struck off, so apparently he didn't kill anybody. | Jul 25 08:25 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague tho | Jul 25 08:26 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague theoretical principle which does is not relevant in practice. | Jul 25 08:27 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: you are worried because of a vague theoretical principle which is not relevant in practice. | Jul 25 08:27 |
| oiaohm | Notice what you just said they are making it themselves. What level mix where they using. | Jul 25 08:27 |
| oiaohm | If they were only really using a low level they may not have killed anyone and may still been inside the rules. | Jul 25 08:28 |
| oiaohm | Problem is will that be enough doesage to beat the illness you have msb_ | Jul 25 08:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: all the death reports have a few things in common. 1 IV usage. 2 blood level of what ever vititum that has a lethal side effect too high. | Jul 25 08:30 |
| msb_ | Here is Cathcart's website. Look it up yourself: https://web.archive.org/web/20130302070632/http://www.orthomed.com/ | Jul 25 08:30 |
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| oiaohm | vitamins sorry about recently my Konversation irc client had lost it spell check. | Jul 25 08:31 |
| oiaohm | As you can tell I need it. | Jul 25 08:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically we need better ways of giving vitamins by IV same way we need better ways to give insulin before Insulin Pumps. | Jul 25 08:36 |
| oiaohm | All the deaths due to Vitamin C IV usage you would assign to doctor error/lack of equipment todo it properly. | Jul 25 08:37 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: the same applies to vaccinations. Like you don't see a blood screen for compatibility before doctor injects a vaccine. Wrong process/lack of equipment equals death with medical. | Jul 25 08:40 |
| msb_ | The important number is the ratio of the probability of death from the virus, to the probability of death from Vitamin C. | Jul 25 08:40 |
| oiaohm | The right dosage is important to get the ratio of probability of death from the virus as low as possible and avoid the probability death from the Vitamin | Jul 25 08:42 |
| oiaohm | Its exactly the same as balancing a insulin dosage. | Jul 25 08:42 |
| msb_ | If you are bleeding from your eyes and every other opening of your body from Marburg or Ebola, or you are seizing or whatever from viral encephalitis, chances are the virus is far more dangerous than the IV C. | Jul 25 08:42 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if the dosage is too low its not going to be effective either remember that | Jul 25 08:43 |
| msb_ | I don't think people can be screened for vaccine danger. | Jul 25 08:43 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: so enough should be given so the symptoms recede. | Jul 25 08:43 |
| oiaohm | msb_: again there is a delay between when body usage of C drops and symptons recede | Jul 25 08:44 |
| oiaohm | Monitoring the level in the blood is the only way. | Jul 25 08:44 |
| oiaohm | msb_: it is possible to screen for vaccine danger it expensive. | Jul 25 08:45 |
| msb_ | How? | Jul 25 08:45 |
| oiaohm | You take blood sample find the stemcells. convicne them to make all the different cell types give the white cells in the sample in the blood the vaccine and watch the outcome. | Jul 25 08:46 |
| oiaohm | Takes about 20 days per person currently. | Jul 25 08:46 |
| oiaohm | And if you have not guessed doing that costs about 10 000 dollars a time. | Jul 25 08:47 |
| msb_ | Vaccines have many different routes of toxicity. Especially live ones. That test isn't going to cover them. | Jul 25 08:47 |
| oiaohm | No safe vaccines should be live | Jul 25 08:48 |
| oiaohm | If the vaccine is a live vaccine is not safe. DNA mutations mean anything could happen. | Jul 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Safe vaccines don't have many different routes of toxicity. Safe vaccine toxity is normally confusing the white cells to attack persons own cells. | Jul 25 08:50 |
| msb_ | More than that: As virions bud out of your cells they can incorporate cell membrane material, leading to autoimmune disease. | Jul 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes autoimmune outcomes is what you are testing to make sure don't happen with safe vaccines. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| oiaohm | I do know the USA has at times use live vaccines. Live vaccines are forbin out right in Australia. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| msb_ | Viral vaccines also contain material from whatever tissue they were grown on, even if they are killed. | Jul 25 08:51 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | That is still using a live vaccine. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | There is a different method to make a safe predictable vaccine. | Jul 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Add the dna of the segment of virus you need produced to tanks of bacteria and have them produce just that segment. | Jul 25 08:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically the same kinds of tanks we use to make insulin and other hormones in great volume. | Jul 25 08:54 |
| oiaohm | msb_: problem with using live virus and killing it is the fact it can break in different places every single time so be random-ally safe/unsafe. | Jul 25 08:55 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically there are vaccines and there are vaccines. Proper safe ones are produced by 1 very particular method. | Jul 25 08:56 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Feel free to inject whatever unknown biological products into your bloodstream that you want. Please read Cathcart's site to learn the reality of IV C therapy. I have other things to do now and can't spend any more time with your theoretical arguments. | Jul 25 08:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Please note I do agree with the problem of what a vaccuine being known. I am not exactly happy with that. | Jul 25 08:59 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I do understand that is possible to use them properly. And at that stage I don't know of a single country anywhere using them properly. | Jul 25 09:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: due to the fact I had to have particular vaccines to do some of the work I had to and I had the access rights to find out before it went in my arm I did find out. | Jul 25 09:02 |
| oiaohm | msb_: so I absolutely don't agree with the secret side of stuff being injected. | Jul 25 09:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz if people in Malaysia need unbiased news, they read the Straits Times pub. in Singapore who, in turn, read New Straits Times! | Jul 25 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz same with neighboring countries like Thailand. No censoring or holds barred for neighbors, censorship for stuff within. | Jul 25 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | Straits Times closely linked to government officials (see management), who are buddies with Malaysia. It's #singapore propaganda. | Jul 25 10:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624942628166049792 | Jul 25 10:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz A good article IMO. | Jul 25 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624947640200003585 | Jul 25 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz while not condoning current Tory govt., Thatcher or Singapore, I think western democracy is overrated. http://t.co/6Xm12C9OOz | Jul 25 10:22 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and this. https://t.co/CKPn6jmptt | Jul 25 10:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bssed on what I hear, #Purism (Librem) is "Pure PR" and RMS is going to publicly chastise them. Not sure if true, but seems likely. | Jul 25 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Ok, I see." | Jul 25 10:55 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to a person from the project yesterday, maybe they can reconcile it | Jul 25 10:55 |
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| oiaohm | http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html | Jul 25 11:02 |
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| oiaohm | Now that is up there. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Would you please tell me what is your native language and level of education? | Jul 25 11:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I am Australian so English is my native. I have a BA so UNI level. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | There is 1 major catch. | Jul 25 11:11 |
| oiaohm | I was deaf for the first 6 years of my life and had very bad dyslexia. | Jul 25 11:12 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: You're doing quite well! | Jul 25 11:13 |
| oiaohm | msb_: when I get annoyed I sometimes lose focus on language and the some of my major defects return. | Jul 25 11:13 |
| msb_ | This is very good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 11:14 |
| oiaohm | When I say very bad dyslexia I could not get 2 letter words right at first. | Jul 25 11:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes that is spelling a simple world like "to" only correct 50 percent of the time. | Jul 25 11:14 |
| msb_ | (bot is gone) How Edward Bernays hacked democracy - Truthloader | Jul 25 11:15 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I guess you were asking because my language was that bad you did not think I was native. | Jul 25 11:17 |
| msb_ | I was just curious. | Jul 25 11:17 |
| oiaohm | The really bad part is without a spell checker I cannot see when I am typing words wrong. It is completely insane a person next to me can ask me to spell the incorrect word and I spell out the correct word. | Jul 25 11:19 |
| oiaohm | It has to be the worst form of error. | Jul 25 11:19 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: Thanks for tell me before I was unreadable. It was a update that had turned off auto spell checking. | Jul 25 11:22 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Usually you were readable. It was just an occasional sentence I was unable to parse. | Jul 25 11:23 |
| oiaohm | msb_: you now have a clue how much I am fixing all the time. | Jul 25 11:23 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm, msb_: What are you talking about? | Jul 25 11:24 |
| msb_ | So you read over and edit what you're going to post before you hit Enter? I do, and still make mistakes sometimes. | Jul 25 11:24 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Do you have scroll-back on your IRC client? | Jul 25 11:25 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I don't have IRC history. | Jul 25 11:25 |
| XRevan86 | (18:13:41) msb_: oiaohm: You're doing quite well! | Jul 25 11:26 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: we were chatting about different things I think an hour ago and I did not have spell checker on so msb_ saw my raw English that is horrible. | Jul 25 11:26 |
| XRevan86 | The first message I see. | Jul 25 11:26 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Can you turn history on? | Jul 25 11:26 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That would require me to set up a bouncer. | Jul 25 11:26 |
| msb_ | What is that? | Jul 25 11:26 |
| oiaohm | msb_: problem is even if I read over my line due to my Brain processing error it appears perfect to me. Yes I could have told a person next to be the correct spelling of every word and been 100 percent sure they were correct. | Jul 25 11:27 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: A daemon that sits in an IRC room and logs everything. | Jul 25 11:27 |
| msb_ | Konversation has history and logging. | Jul 25 11:27 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: You're from US, right? | Jul 25 11:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Australia | Jul 25 11:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Yes I am up late | Jul 25 11:28 |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, I thought double-spacing after a dot is popular only in US. | Jul 25 11:28 |
| oiaohm | I did typing class in highschool if you did it prior to 1994 you lost marks for using only a single space. | Jul 25 11:29 |
| oiaohm | Australian double space after the . is a part give away of age. | Jul 25 11:29 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That practically means our heads are like ":-) (-:" | Jul 25 11:29 |
| msb_ | I think it's a good idea because period and comma may be difficult to tell apart. | Jul 25 11:30 |
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| XRevan86 | msb_: No they're not. | Jul 25 11:30 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: depends on the typewriter | Jul 25 11:31 |
| msb_ | To me they sometimes are. | Jul 25 11:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's what large letters are for. | Jul 25 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Worn typewriters with the old spinning wheels the difference between a full stop and a comma could be nothing. | Jul 25 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Why the hook off the comma use to break off. | Jul 25 11:32 |
| XRevan86 | You. Know. These. Are. Not. Commas, even if you mess with your fonts. | Jul 25 11:32 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: We don't use typewriters you know. | Jul 25 11:32 |
| XRevan86 | Typewritery things are not required therefore. | Jul 25 11:32 |
| msb_ | You are not the boss of me! | Jul 25 11:33 |
| msb_ | 8^) | Jul 25 11:33 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I expect to be the boss if I'm the voice of reason :). | Jul 25 11:34 |
| XRevan86 | Am I? | Jul 25 11:34 |
| msb_ | Much of the time. | Jul 25 11:34 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: do have a daisy wheel printer they are also typewriters. They are used when you need to print a document using 8 levels of carbon transfer | Jul 25 11:35 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Three spaces now? :) | Jul 25 11:36 |
| msb_ | But the essential change in social evolution is not having bosses. People do as they please as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. | Jul 25 11:36 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: typo | Jul 25 11:36 |
| msb_ | "xrevan" is Russian for "Mr. Picky" | Jul 25 11:37 |
| oiaohm | Its also like you can still buy dot matrix printers new as well. | Jul 25 11:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes different legal documents required the usage of carbon/what ever that purple thing is transfers. | Jul 25 11:38 |
| msb_ | For any non-scrollers among us, this is a great video about Bernays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoorJKA6pg | Jul 25 11:41 |
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| oiaohm | http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html | Jul 25 11:41 |
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| oiaohm | This is nasty patent pool abuse. | Jul 25 11:41 |
| XRevan86 | > Yes different legal documents required the usage of carbon/what ever that purple thing is transfers | Jul 25 11:42 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: What do you mean? | Jul 25 11:42 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: you know what you seen in invoice books for hand written where you see the transfer paper. | Jul 25 11:43 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: ah | Jul 25 11:43 |
| msb_ | carbon paper | Jul 25 11:44 |
| oiaohm | There are different legal documents due to regulation stupidity where the copy must be produced at the exact same time as the original or its not valid. | Jul 25 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fimg-fotki.yandex.ru%2Fget%2F6107%2F109183592.a%2F0_7ef9f_b5bef254_XL.jpg&sp=62e119822eda7ff0b5fc3d2917dd55dd | Jul 25 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | this thing? | Jul 25 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | It's called "copying paper" in Russian :). | Jul 25 11:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: that is carbon paper. We call it carbon because that one can be undo with a pencil eraser. The purple form is a ink. | Jul 25 11:46 |
| oiaohm | Basically you have two forms of copying paper XRevan86 | Jul 25 11:47 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I had no idea. | Jul 25 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Yes regulations at times state what one you are meant to use. | Jul 25 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Use the wrong one start again. | Jul 25 11:47 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not sure it's possible to buy it in Russia now. | Jul 25 11:48 |
| XRevan86 | on a market | Jul 25 11:48 |
| oiaohm | I would guess Russia has no regulations requiring. | Jul 25 11:50 |
| oiaohm | I can buy both here from any newsagent. | Jul 25 11:51 |
| oiaohm | But the price suxs. $112.09 for 100 sheets. | Jul 25 11:52 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I've checked it out on market.yandex.ru | Jul 25 11:53 |
| XRevan86 | 100 sheets of carbon space from "OfficeSpace": 155 RUB | Jul 25 11:53 |
| XRevan86 | dollar is now 58 RUB | Jul 25 11:54 |
| XRevan86 | oops, vice-versa | Jul 25 11:54 |
| XRevan86 | $3 | Jul 25 11:54 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Seriously, 50 times overpricing. | Jul 25 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Now I am feeling so ripped off its not funny. | Jul 25 11:55 |
| XRevan86 | 500 sheets of Xerox carbon paper: 2383 RUB | Jul 25 11:55 |
| XRevan86 | $41 | Jul 25 11:56 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Why don't you buy it from sites like aliexpress? | Jul 25 11:57 |
| msb_ | Originally it had actual carbon on it. | Jul 25 11:58 |
| XRevan86 | and buy a OnePlus One from change | Jul 25 11:58 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Lazyiness and time mostly. | Jul 25 11:59 |
| msb_ | Regarding that video, there _are_ "death panels" in Medicare. Maybe not for individual people. But they make policies such as they won't pay for cancer treatment if the person is beyond a certain age, because it's likely that they will die soon anyway. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | But by the price difference I am serousally going to bite the bullet and have a stock pile. | Jul 25 12:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: with different cancers in Australia we are having vaccines to them. | Jul 25 12:02 |
| oiaohm | msb_: ie custom per person vaccines. Turning out more cost effective. | Jul 25 12:02 |
| msb_ | Of course the govt still makes some good alternative cancer treatments illegal. But that just teaches people that the govt is a bunch of thugs. | Jul 25 12:02 |
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| XRevan86 | oiaohm: It's incredible that you can even afford it. | Jul 25 12:03 |
| oiaohm | msb_: your usa right? | Jul 25 12:03 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: How do they make a vaccine against a tumor? | Jul 25 12:03 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: PBS what is base medical Australia is paying for it. | Jul 25 12:04 |
| oiaohm | msb_: cancer is normally mutations so if the mutations case caused the caccer cells to have unique cell surface markers you are in business. | Jul 25 12:04 |
| oiaohm | Just program the body own system to go after that. | Jul 25 12:05 |
| oiaohm | See I types cancer correct once then managed to type caccer instead. | Jul 25 12:05 |
| msb_ | So they just fractionate some of the tumor and separate out the surface antigens? | Jul 25 12:05 |
| msb_ | ...to make the vaccine? | Jul 25 12:06 |
| oiaohm | msb_: zero radiation zero expensive drugs and once body is programed to target the cancer it will keep on doing it for at least 8 years. | Jul 25 12:07 |
| msb_ | How much does it cost to make the vaccine? | Jul 25 12:07 |
| msb_ | What is the percentage effectiveness? | Jul 25 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Little more complex. | Jul 25 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Seperate out the surface antigens bind those to something the body will take as requiring destruction. | Jul 25 12:08 |
| msb_ | Anyhow this stuff is very cheap -- buy it at the healthfood store, or get DCA (illegally) via the Web: http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/ | Jul 25 12:09 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: when it can be done 100 percent peffectiveness. Cost is 20 000 dollars a turn but that is a lot cheaper than radiation treatment. | Jul 25 12:09 |
| oiaohm | I am hating self right now. | Jul 25 12:09 |
| oiaohm | msb_: note not everyone with cancer has multations that alter cell surfaces. | Jul 25 12:10 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: You know what's my biggest question around cancer? | Jul 25 12:10 |
| msb_ | I am loving you. You just told me about an anticancer technique I never heard of before! | Jul 25 12:10 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: I have to ask? | Jul 25 12:11 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's a rare disease from my point of view (in Russia?) but from your words it's so freaky common. | Jul 25 12:12 |
| XRevan86 | why's that? | Jul 25 12:12 |
| msb_ | Borscht! It's why Russians live into their hundreds. Also sour cream. | Jul 25 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | What's sour cream? | Jul 25 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, smetana | Jul 25 12:13 |
| msb_ | Like yogurt but with more fat. | Jul 25 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's not even close to a yogurt. | Jul 25 12:14 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: most common cancer in Australia is sun cancers. | Jul 25 12:14 |
| XRevan86 | What's a borsh without smetana? | Jul 25 12:14 |
| oiaohm | I guess russias don't get themselves sun burnt as much. | Jul 25 12:14 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yeah, especially in this part :). | Jul 25 12:14 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I mean, in Leningrad. | Jul 25 12:15 |
| XRevan86 | * St. Petersburg | Jul 25 12:15 |
| oiaohm | That would be one of the big differences. | Jul 25 12:16 |
| oiaohm | The problem is if you do get a sun caused cancer it does not have to stay where it formed so can appear in other parts of body. | Jul 25 12:16 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: I knew it. You made that up. Bedrich Smetana is a Czech music composer from the 1800s. | Jul 25 12:17 |
| oiaohm | So a percentage of all diagnosed cancers no matter what organs they are found in are sun caused. | Jul 25 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: You cracked me up :D | Jul 25 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Lovely_borshch.jpg | Jul 25 12:18 |
| msb_ | 8^) | Jul 25 12:18 |
| XRevan86 | What a lovely… no, this is not lovely. | Jul 25 12:18 |
| XRevan86 | Borsh is not enough but smetana is quite a lot. | Jul 25 12:19 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: also a percentage of cancers are virus caused. So some countries has lower rates of particular viruses so lower rates of those cancers. | Jul 25 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Finally what you eat is a factor XRevan86 | Jul 25 12:20 |
| oiaohm | Like huge ammounts of deep fried stuff or other ways of horibally burning food is not good either. | Jul 25 12:20 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so each country should have a different cancer rate pattern. | Jul 25 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yeah, that was never popular in Russia. | Jul 25 12:21 |
| msb_ | GMO and fluoride both cause cancer. | Jul 25 12:21 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: No fried chicken? | Jul 25 12:22 |
| oiaohm | msb_: missed Fluoride mostly because Russia water is normaly high on that. | Jul 25 12:22 |
| oiaohm | Pestisides and GMO can be problems as well. | Jul 25 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: On a pan in the oven, yes. | Jul 25 12:23 |
| msb_ | baked | Jul 25 12:23 |
| msb_ | and breaded | Jul 25 12:23 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I call it "fried" :) | Jul 25 12:23 |
| msb_ | But not an aluminum pan -- causes Alzheimer's. | Jul 25 12:24 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: sorry oven baked we don't call fried. | Jul 25 12:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: cast iron | Jul 25 12:24 |
| oiaohm | fried is the hot oil dip cooking method. | Jul 25 12:24 |
| msb_ | excellent! | Jul 25 12:24 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: An old good Soviet cast iron pan :). | Jul 25 12:25 |
| msb_ | I get canned salmon caught in Alaska, but I have to test it with a Geiger counter! | Jul 25 12:25 |
| oiaohm | Basically fried the highly not healthy method. | Jul 25 12:25 |
| oiaohm | msb_: techically aluminum does not cause Alzheimers but a condition that looks like it that is reversable. | Jul 25 12:26 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I for one eat "fried" (oven baked?) meal relatively rarely. | Jul 25 12:27 |
| msb_ | In the 80s or 90s, people were dialyzed against tapwater containing Al. The resulting Alzheimer's was not reversible. | Jul 25 12:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: there are particular things you have to add what you eat to allow you body to correctly remove Al | Jul 25 12:29 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: OK, what _do_ you do to your meat? | Jul 25 12:29 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: what? | Jul 25 12:29 |
| oiaohm | msb_: normal Alzheimers is a brain plaquing issue cause by a protein gone wrong. There as been some progress on getting the body to deal with that as well. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Well, either "oven bake" or a soup. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically research has moved on. | Jul 25 12:30 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: moved on? | Jul 25 12:31 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Is Alz a prion disease? | Jul 25 12:32 |
| msb_ | contagious protein? | Jul 25 12:32 |
| oiaohm | msb_: As far as we know not contagious requires you DNA to produce a protein wrong. If it is contagious is a virus altering dna. | Jul 25 12:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: early Alzheimers reserach mixed Al posioned with damaged protein. | Jul 25 12:34 |
| msb_ | Pretty frequent for a mutation. Could it be epigenetic? | Jul 25 12:34 |
| msb_ | A virus would explain it too. | Jul 25 12:35 |
| oiaohm | That we know what causes the brain failure we don't know why it as common. | Jul 25 12:35 |
| msb_ | All my cats died of cancer. It must have been a virus. | Jul 25 12:35 |
| oiaohm | There is a virus in cats that causes cancer. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Australia has researched it as a possiblity to kill off ferial cats. | Jul 25 12:36 |
| msb_ | Wonderful. When they did that in Europe tens of millions died from the Black Plague, carried by rats. | Jul 25 12:37 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if they were the same blood line it could be genenic or other toxity in envornement. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| oiaohm | We have lizards in Australia meant to do the cat role. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| msb_ | 4 cats related, one not. | Jul 25 12:38 |
| oiaohm | msb_: by that I would be a little worried. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | I don't have anymore cats. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | Why do Aussies prefer lizards to cats? | Jul 25 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Good thing it never reached Russia. I have two cats. | Jul 25 12:40 |
| msb_ | My sister and mother have cats living a lot longer than mine did. No cancer. | Jul 25 12:41 |
| oiaohm | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-17/melanoma-vaccine-giving-cancer-victims-hope/5396594 msb_ cancer vacines in Australia are not a new thing. Problem has been getting effectiveness up to where it is now. Yes workiug out how to trick the body to attack cancer and not to be deciding to forget all the time | Jul 25 12:42 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: the lizards are the natives. Lot of the local wild life have trouble getting away from cats | Jul 25 12:43 |
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| msb_ | Cats are superior beings! | Jul 25 12:44 |
| schestowitz | meh | Jul 25 12:44 |
| oiaohm | I am not sure you would like a house cat after its been in australia for 4 generations. | Jul 25 12:44 |
| oiaohm | in the wild. | Jul 25 12:45 |
| schestowitz | they help with nothing | Jul 25 12:45 |
| schestowitz | cats are masters | Jul 25 12:45 |
| schestowitz | in their own minds | Jul 25 12:45 |
| schestowitz | dogs at least help with some stuff | Jul 25 12:45 |
| msb_ | cats kill rats. | Jul 25 12:45 |
| schestowitz | mice maybe | Jul 25 12:45 |
| schestowitz | rats can be very big | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | need wolves | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | or elephants to stomp 'em | Jul 25 12:46 |
| msb_ | Are lizards fast enough to catch big rats? | Jul 25 12:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goanna O yep. no problems catching a big rat | Jul 25 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Goanna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jul 25 12:49 | |
| msb_ | What about Tasmanian Devils? When they spin fast enough they can make cone-shaped holes in trees! | Jul 25 12:49 |
| oiaohm | No Tasmanian Devils are nothing like the cartoon. | Jul 25 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Tasmanian devel jaw has crushing force greater than a gattor or croc | Jul 25 12:50 |
| msb_ | Goannas were mentioned in Crocodile Dundee. | Jul 25 12:51 |
| schestowitz | [05:15] <amarsh04> schestowitz, was your reference to Banana Republic the UK as in the Boomtown Rats song or to Australia where the term had some use when Paul Keating was treasurer and later Prime Minister | Jul 25 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Did I say that? | Jul 25 12:51 |
| oiaohm | Tasmainian devils don't need to spin threw trees if they wish can bite their way threw trees. | Jul 25 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I quoted | Jul 25 12:51 |
| oiaohm | msb_: normally of course Tasmainian devils don't like wood. | Jul 25 12:52 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Goannas are not as friendly as cats. They will if panics climb you with big nasty sharp claws. | Jul 25 12:58 |
| msb_ | Aren't there also lots of terribly poisonous spiders in Australia? | Jul 25 13:00 |
| oiaohm | Spiders and snakes. with nasty poisons. | Jul 25 13:02 |
| msb_ | Can they swim across the ocean? Should I worry? | Jul 25 13:03 |
| oiaohm | Just by freak of luck cats happen to be safe from a lot of the strongest ones. | Jul 25 13:03 |
| oiaohm | The snakes and spiders will not swim. | Jul 25 13:04 |
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| msb_ | Sounds like you need cats. I sure hope the govt doesn't start spreading cat cancer virus. | Jul 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | But we have had them shipped from one side of Australia to the other than bite some one. | Jul 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes by ship | Jul 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Sydney funnel web bitting a person in perth at the docks has happened. | Jul 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | So I would not be 100 percent sure that the that Australian spiders cannot get to other countries. | Jul 25 13:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/peacecompassion/status/624990183830609920 | Jul 25 13:15 |
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| schestowitz | Bloomberg's Islamophob and Russophob for over a year now | Jul 25 13:15 |
| msb_ | There is a very good movie shot in Australia about a truck driver and a serial killer. | Jul 25 13:22 |
| msb_ | And a young woman they meet. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| msb_ | The actress is tall, blonde and has 3 names. | Jul 25 13:24 |
| msb_ | Road Games 1981 Jamie Lee Curtis | Jul 25 13:27 |
| msb_ | rumor has it that she is an XY with Androgen Insensitivity | Jul 25 13:30 |
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| schestowitz | > Ahh, ok, well they have a valid concern over our well publicized and | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > discussed BIOS freedom status. It's a problem that all higher end | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > hardware has since 2005, but we're working to solve it! (Do you care to | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > join our development effort in doing so?) | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > See below if you want to see details: | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/about-purism-and-librems-and-cake/ | Jul 25 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/freeing-the-bios-the-memory-init-stage/ | Jul 25 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/pioneering-cpu-efforts-to-liberate-laptop-hardware/ | Jul 25 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/purism-software-freedom-deconstructed/ | Jul 25 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | > https://puri.sm/posts/bios-freedom-status/ | Jul 25 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > I will begin to hang in #libreboot when I'm back off the road... | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks so much for writing Roy. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully gave a headsup before it's too late (negative press coverage) | Jul 25 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cradle, A Beautiful UNiGiNE Powered Sci-fi | Jul 25 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Adventure Now On Steam For Linux, Plus Thoughts | Jul 25 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | & Video https://t.co/8WB1Z8xXGc | Jul 25 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jul 25 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Cradle, A Beautiful UNiGiNE Powered Sci-fi Adventure Now On Steam For Linux, Plus Thoughts & Video | GamingOnLinux | Jul 25 14:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introducing etcd 2.1 https://t.co/2XK2UQYDpY | Jul 25 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (coreos.com) | Jul 25 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coreos.com | Introducing etcd 2.1 | Jul 25 14:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu | Jul 25 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XW5V47SD3e (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 14:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jul 25 14:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines POLL - 5 Best Linux Desktop Environments With | Jul 25 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pros & Cons http://t.co/5BP4aTaQLz | Jul 25 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | POLL - 5 Best Linux Desktop Environments With Pros & Cons | Tux Machines | Jul 25 15:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/P5W7moNgxa | Jul 25 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 15:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6386453 | Jul 25 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Orthogonal policy making. When the #law is written and reshaped independently from people's will and usually directly against their interest | Jul 25 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | "But in support of the interests of The State. :)" | Jul 25 16:14 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu http://t.co/XW5V47SD3e' | Jul 25 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines POLL - 5 Best Linux Desktop Environments With | Jul 25 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pros & Cons http://t.co/5nVfbM5gmd | Jul 25 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | POLL - 5 Best Linux Desktop Environments With Pros & Cons - LinuxAndUbuntu | Jul 25 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Jul 25 16:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @zexy71 favourited 'POLL - 5 Best Linux Desktop Environments With...' | Jul 25 16:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @zexy71 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'POLL - 5 Best Linux Desktop Environments With...' | Jul 25 16:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "With the Linux 4.2 kernel settling down nicely | Jul 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and AMD developers having already sent in a few | Jul 25 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | round of fixes" http://t.co/sByC0JC51Q | Jul 25 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead - Phoronix | Jul 25 16:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 25 16:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Libreboot Adds Experimental ThinkPad R500 | Jul 25 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/Xujnf9bX7D | Jul 25 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jul 25 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Libreboot Adds Experimental ThinkPad R500 Support - Phoronix | Jul 25 16:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 | Jul 25 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Experience - Gallery | Jul 25 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ze3lMDyBB5 (news.softpedia.com) | Jul 25 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 Desktop Experience - Gallery - Softpedia | Jul 25 16:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu | Jul 25 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/4PvxJARAC9 (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Jul 25 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Everpad Client To Use Evernote In Ubuntu - LinuxAndUbuntu | Jul 25 16:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In August 2015, The Linux Mint Developers Will | Jul 25 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Start Working At Linux Mint 17.3 | Jul 25 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tNTQZ3Abbf (linuxg.net) | Jul 25 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/oxm8zUIxEZ (linuxg.net) | Jul 25 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | In August 2015, The Linux Mint Developers Will Start Working At Linux Mint 17.3 | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 16:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Linux Mint 17.2 OEM And No Codecs Images Have Been Released | LinuxG.net | Jul 25 16:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/625046459642200064 | Jul 25 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz https://t.co/K9sgQ20HiO Managed to find it on #YouTube | Jul 25 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | HGUC 1/144 RX-78-2 GUNDAM PV(JPN Dub) - YouTube | Jul 25 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/P5W7moNgxa | Jul 25 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jul 25 17:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 17:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/VhzCsgVgHb | Jul 25 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jul 25 17:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 | Jul 25 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop Experience - Gallery | Jul 25 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/2RCVnpcgqQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 17:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROSA Desktop Fresh R6 Brings a Refreshed KDE4 Desktop Experience - Gallery | Tux Machines | Jul 25 17:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 | Jul 25 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead | Jul 25 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FDzkWrkL9p (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 25 17:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The New AMD GPU Open-Source Driver On Linux 4.2 Works, But Still A Lot Of Work Ahead | Tux Machines | Jul 25 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | BS or substantial? http://www.globalresearch.ca/chattanooga-shooter-linked-to-cia-fbi-asset-anwar-al-awlaki/5463949 | Jul 25 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Chattanooga Shooter Linked To CIA, FBI Asset Anwar Al-Awlaki | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/n8b26 ] | Jul 25 17:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights http://t.co/VhzCsgVgHb' | Jul 25 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/the-building-thats-not-on-the-tourist-map/story-e6frfqb9-1227456727555 | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | "I quickly snapped a shot. Later in my hotel room and on my computer, it only took minutes to find the iconic van Es shot. When I put my new shot alongside the old picture, sure enough, it was the same rooftop. Some of the cladding had changed over the past 40 years, but the balcony area gave it’s past away." | Jul 25 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | Saigon helicopter photo of Vietnam War rescue: CIA building not on tourist map [ http://ur1.ca/n8b57 ] | Jul 25 17:51 | |
| schestowitz | Grammar mistake | Jul 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/625060064332808192 | Jul 25 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz Shut down the CIA. | Jul 25 17:53 | |
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| cubexyz | new blog: | Jul 25 21:14 |
| cubexyz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Jul 25 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux | Jul 25 21:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/358949/huffington-post-dumps-trump-to-its-toy-section-for-about-five-minutes-then-news-breaks-out/ | Jul 25 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.poynter.org | Huffington Post dumps Trump to its toy section (for about five minutes), then news breaks out | Poynter. [ http://ur1.ca/n8sft ] | Jul 25 21:37 | |
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