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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 DistroJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Released with Many New FeaturesJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8uyV7rn7Hy (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5r1rJul 19 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features | Tux MachinesJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD 10.2 beta 2 http://t.co/0ToQA0qgagJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 10.2 beta 2 | Tux MachinesJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5r1sJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Releases http://t.co/MhuZBhpYxHJul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 00:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5r1tJul 19 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Releases | Tux MachinesJul 19 00:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/2fomfzDWuJJul 19 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 01:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5rfmJul 19 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesJul 19 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/40zs6ibOgZJul 19 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 01:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5rfoJul 19 01:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Ve2CWv9rL0Jul 19 01:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 19 01:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5rfpJul 19 01:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/MqA5u1ISukJul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5ryoJul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/AeyuzEtA2tJul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5rypJul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 18/7/2015: Android PC, Chromixium 1.5Jul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zbZ9JQWehv (techrights.org)Jul 19 02:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5ryrJul 19 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2015: Android PC, Chromixium 1.5 | TechrightsJul 19 02:00
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oiaohmhttps://www.haiku-os.org/blog/axeld/2015-07-17_introducing_launch_daemonJul 19 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.haiku-os.org | Introducing the launch_daemon | Haiku Project [ http://ur1.ca/n5ob8 ]Jul 19 04:56
oiaohmAnother OS project looking to give up on script based start.Jul 19 04:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First-Person Exploration Puzzler 'The MagicJul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Circle' Released For Linux, Has DemoJul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5ok0oUZCxU (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5uc6Jul 19 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | First-Person Exploration Puzzler 'The Magic Circle' Released For Linux, Has Demo | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android TV, like Google TV, still too ahead ofJul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 its time http://t.co/JtjjKafvzvJul 19 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android TV, like Google TV, still too ahead of its time - SlashGearJul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.slashgear.com)Jul 19 06:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5uc8Jul 19 06:36
msb__ .Jul 19 07:26
msb__I was looking at a TV schedule with Firefox, and accidently got into a mode where the pageup/down keys switched tabs instead of scrolling.  And I accidently went to a tv schedule tab that started talking about "celebrities" and how they were pregnant on set, as revealed by their instagram messages, etc.  Jul 19 07:28
msb__I couldn't stop it from talking.  I killed flash but that didn't help.  I didn't know which of the tabs was talking.Jul 19 07:28
msb__It felt like I was schizophrenic and couldn't stop the voices in my head!  Jul 19 07:29
msb__And what they were saying was for morons!Jul 19 07:29
msb__Finally I found the offensive tab and killed it, and the voices stopped.Jul 19 07:30
msb__If the govt kidnaps me because of my website and wants to torture me, all they have to do is tune in "Entertainment Tonite" or whatever that was.  I'll confess to anything!Jul 19 07:32
msb__Yes, I dropped germ warfare on North Korea!  I admit it!Jul 19 07:33
msb__Please, send me back to Room 101!Jul 19 07:36
msb__Put the rats back on me!Jul 19 07:37
msb__Just turn off that TV show!!!Jul 19 07:37
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msb__Man, it's a good thing I haven't taken any drugs!Jul 19 07:38
msb__Sorry, was that off-topic?  I was using Linux...Jul 19 07:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to squeeze more battery life from yourJul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux laptop http://t.co/NelDCaNB0mJul 19 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorldJul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcworld.com)Jul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5v8nJul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released!Jul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lFCwKRngBt (blog.linuxmint.com)Jul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5v8oJul 19 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.2 “Rafaela” Xfce RC released!Jul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Turing Phone is the craziest Android deviceJul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 you'll see this year http://t.co/y7YNAbWrTDJul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com)Jul 19 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Turing Phone is the craziest Android device you'll see this year | The VergeJul 19 08:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5v8pJul 19 08:42
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roy__https://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/622673966788964352Jul 19 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@georgebaily: @schestowitz these look awesome and would be cool even if they didn't look so good... Wonder why the reviewer is so negative...Jul 19 08:48
roy__Seems like most a branding exercise to meJul 19 08:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Jolla Introduces New Reference Designs AndJul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Software To Fight AndroidJul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CoznneKHQp (www.forbes.com)Jul 19 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Jolla Introduces New Reference Designs And Software To Fight Android - ForbesJul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5varJul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes,Jul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for MirJul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com)Jul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vasJul 19 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - SoftpediaJul 19 08:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CloudRouter 2.0 Hits Beta with OpenDaylightJul 19 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Lithium and Fedora 22  http://t.co/fkIwYyvyA6Jul 19 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | CloudRouter 2.0 Hits Beta with Open Daylight Lithium and Fedora 22Jul 19 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)Jul 19 08:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vauJul 19 08:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You CanJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Install Linux On http://t.co/vDHzcigdy6Jul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.makeuseof.com)Jul 19 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Not Just For Desktops: 10 Devices You Can Install Linux OnJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5velJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ AquarisJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must WaitJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hFUKLn38SQ (news.softpedia.com)Jul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vemJul 19 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 to Land on BQ Aquaris Devices First, Meizu MX4 Users Must Wait - SoftpediaJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau HardwareJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Acceleration http://t.co/GBkH7yljxHJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau Hardware Acceleration | Tux MachinesJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5venJul 19 09:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second UbuntuJul 19 09:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone has much improved hardwareJul 19 09:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YpAQVhUamo (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 09:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vepJul 19 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | Tux MachinesJul 19 09:09
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roy__https://twitter.com/Gatorau/status/622681767795929089Jul 19 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Gatorau: Because ethics. https://t.co/cWFQeKFuYKJul 19 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Torture approved: Why US psychological association's apology is not enough http://t.co/QPzQRzZMcB legal action needed, not early retirementJul 19 09:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Linux 4.2 Mainline Kernel From Ubuntu IsJul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Finally Working Again http://t.co/zxvpCi78DXJul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vmpJul 19 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Linux 4.2 Mainline Kernel From Ubuntu Is Finally Working Again - PhoronixJul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telegram AppJul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements, New ThumbnailerJul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/P6gCkR0IwI (news.softpedia.com)Jul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vmqJul 19 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 to Bring Telegram App Improvements, New Thumbnailer - SoftpediaJul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 4Jul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Adds Support for IBM POWER8Jul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xcS504K0hs (news.softpedia.com)Jul 19 09:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vmrJul 19 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Service Pack 4 Adds Support for IBM POWER8 - SoftpediaJul 19 09:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K GodavariJul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C BroadwellJul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/h4NnXdvc75 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vocJul 19 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Open-Source Linux Graphics: A10-7870K Godavari vs. i7-4790K Haswell vs. i7-5775C Broadwell - PhoronixJul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Google APIs: Point your phone at a tellyJul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 like a streaming hose of vidJul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N8fg7sPnvI (www.theregister.co.uk)Jul 19 09:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5vodJul 19 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New Google APIs: Point your phone at a telly like a streaming hose of vid • The RegisterJul 19 09:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622668913386590208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622669396964675584  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/622670492969869312Jul 19 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts https://t.co/4nFSDkpL3G #games #gnu #linuxJul 19 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Monstrum, A Procedural Survival Horror Now On Linux, Some Thoughts | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Feral Interactive look like they will soon be kings of the Linux porting business" https://t.co/uCK9L1Vdu7 #gnu #linuxJul 19 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feral Interactive Are Teasing Yet Another New Port | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop http://t.co/GfPCgbiMhT #gnu #linuxJul 19 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to squeeze more battery life from your Linux laptop | PCWorldJul 19 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes,Jul 19 10:52
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for MirJul 19 10:52
TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok        http://t.co/hP6OU5ic2Q (news.softpedia.com)Jul 19 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu's Unity 8 Gets Shell Rotation Fixes, Vulkan API Is Being Evaluated for Mir - SoftpediaJul 19 10:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5w4pJul 19 10:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 DistroJul 19 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Released with Many New FeaturesJul 19 10:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UXObR6b9NX (news.softpedia.com)Jul 19 10:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n5w4qJul 19 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Ubuntu-Based Chromixium 1.5 Distro Released with Many New Features - SoftpediaJul 19 10:53
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r_schestowitz"Confusing trolls with astroturfers, perhaps intentionally?  There are quite a few interests that don't want the topic of astroturfing to rise to visibility." http://yle.fi/uutiset/webmaster_claims_pro-russia_trolls_stalk_finlands_biggest_russian_forum/8165524Jul 19 16:24
r_schestowitziophkJul 19 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Webmaster claims pro-Russia trolls stalk Finland's biggest Russian forum | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/n5yvj ]Jul 19 16:24
r_schestowitzwhen we do it, it's "warriors", then they do it, it's "trolls"Jul 19 16:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 4.4-r3 Adds Nouveau HardwareJul 19 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Acceleration http://t.co/lJwrLLwyZ7Jul 19 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 19 16:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second UbuntuJul 19 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone has much improved hardwareJul 19 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com)Jul 19 18:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | AlphrJul 19 18:01
*TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone...'Jul 19 18:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is thisJul 19 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 the future of phones? http://t.co/09u9qBmgY6Jul 19 20:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux MachinesJul 19 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their MultiJul 19 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Anti-Malware Scanner MetascanJul 19 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDEJul 20 00:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oRbs2fCXHi (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 00:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n643kJul 20 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE | Tux MachinesJul 20 00:56
TweetTuxMachines@RamiSilawi      #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: isJul 20 00:56
TweetTuxMachines                 this the future of phones?Jul 20 00:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 00:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port forJul 20 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4Jul 20 01:11
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n648yJul 20 01:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in theJul 20 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/nqA5xtqvZZJul 20 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 01:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6491Jul 20 01:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2-rc3 http://t.co/kPEkIYcwOdJul 20 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 01:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6492Jul 20 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.2-rc3 | Tux MachinesJul 20 01:11
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cubexyzthe tide as turned:Jul 20 02:01
cubexyzan investor that put $100,000 into Microsoft stock 10 years ago would now have $69,000Jul 20 02:01
amarsh04anyone familiar with KDE 4.X here?Jul 20 02:48
amarsh04fixed it, problem was that upgrading kde-window-manager had removed that functionalityJul 20 03:11
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cubexyzwhy the heck is firefox using 100% cpu on wired.comJul 20 03:20
cubexyzjava is offJul 20 03:20
cubexyzflash is offJul 20 03:20
cubexyzguess I'll try noscriptJul 20 03:20
cubexyzsuch a crockJul 20 03:21
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cubexyzok... better nowJul 20 03:22
cubexyzit crap, but not as crapJul 20 03:22
cubexyzs/it/still/Jul 20 03:22
amarsh04I sometimes have iceweasel hit peak cpu for a whileJul 20 03:53
amarsh04but that's with close to 1000 tabs openJul 20 03:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and ItJul 20 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Needs Testing http://t.co/nUsNwYWqASJul 20 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 04:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n65w5Jul 20 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing | Tux MachinesJul 20 04:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses LinuxJul 20 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/JezXShmLOlJul 20 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS | Tux MachinesJul 20 04:16
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msb__cubexyz: For me, Firefox is running about 20% (of two cores) and goes to about 45% on wired.com, without shutting off anything.Jul 20 04:47
cubexyzyeah, part of it is my old computer(s)Jul 20 04:47
msb__I've seen much worse websites.  I think FF is being made more robust these days.Jul 20 04:49
cubexyznoscript helps a lotJul 20 04:49
msb__kills javascript?Jul 20 04:50
cubexyznoscript can allow/forbid scriptsJul 20 04:52
cubexyzprocess status can't really tell what firefox is doingJul 20 04:53
msb__https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/noscript/Jul 20 04:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | NoScript Security Suite :: Add-ons for Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/407bf ]Jul 20 04:53
msb__Wow!  I hope it doesn't block porn!Jul 20 04:53
cubexyzuh, no comment :)Jul 20 04:54
cubexyzI just don't want ads using up my CPU cyclesJul 20 04:54
cubexyzor whatever it's doingJul 20 04:54
msb__cubexyz: are you saying that FF can use cpu cycles that are not seen by ps?Jul 20 04:55
cubexyzwell not exactly... the command shown is always .../firefoxJul 20 04:55
cubexyzso ps can't differentiate between firefox threadsJul 20 04:56
cubexyzI could run firefox in gdb I supposeJul 20 04:58
msb__And spend the rest of your life trying to figure out what it was telling you.Jul 20 05:02
cubexyzthat's the way it isJul 20 05:03
msb__Just from looking at how many data files it has, I think it's very complex.Jul 20 05:03
cubexyzmozilla is trying to get firefox to use less memory with it's memshrink project:Jul 20 05:05
cubexyz4.3 BSD Quasijarus UNIXJul 20 05:05
cubexyzFri Jul 17 17:11:37 EST 2015Jul 20 05:05
cubexyzoopsJul 20 05:05
cubexyzhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrinkJul 20 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.mozilla.org | Performance/MemShrink - MozillaWiki [ http://ur1.ca/n66bz ]Jul 20 05:06
msb__FF seems to be starting faster.  I think it only loads content into tabs that are visible.Jul 20 05:09
cubexyzmsb__, did you know you can search klipper history?Jul 20 05:22
cubexyzit's kind of a hidden thing... it works in KDE 3.5.10 and I assume trinity (probably 4+ as well)Jul 20 05:22
msb__No.  Occasionally it will fail to copy and paste from one program to another.  So I just do it again.Jul 20 05:24
msb__I have scripts that load klipper (I use the kde4 version), using qdbus.  Very handy sometimes.Jul 20 05:28
msb__Previous versions of X had a program that could load the clipboard, but that went away.Jul 20 05:29
cubexyzwhat?Jul 20 05:29
cubexyzxclip?Jul 20 05:29
msb__sounds right but I don't think it works anymoreJul 20 05:30
msb__I can't find the old version.  Guess I was peeved and deleted it, silly me.Jul 20 05:33
cubexyzxclipboard is still part of the X Window SystemJul 20 05:34
cubexyzmaybe the distro maintainers aren't including it these daysJul 20 05:35
cubexyzthere's really two clipboardsJul 20 05:37
msb__Anyhow, I have this script called "p"  which loads the clipboard with the FQ path of the filename argument (you have to be in the directory the file is in).  Then you can go to any other directory and cp or mv the file there.  Working in mc this is all done with very few keystrokes.  I call it textmode drag'n'drop.  Use it many times every day.Jul 20 05:37
cubexyzanything you highlight with the mouse should end up in the clipboardJul 20 05:38
cubexyzat least that's how konsole worksJul 20 05:38
msb__But it's too much work to do it with the mouse.  I just have to type p alt-Enter with the cursor on the file in mc.  Hands never leave the keyboard.  No pointing and shooting.Jul 20 05:40
msb__This is in mc in a konsole.  I have dozens of those.Jul 20 05:41
msb__Also, highlighting with the mouse wouldn't bring in the file's path.Jul 20 05:42
cubexyzok, I'm having trouble visualizing what you're doingJul 20 05:45
msb__I'm in mc inside of a konsole.  I place mc's cursor on the file I want to operate on.  I type p <space> <alt-enter> Jul 20 05:46
msb__That invokes the p script with the filename as its argument.Jul 20 05:47
msb__The p script gets the cwd, appends the filename to it, and sends that to another script that uses qdbut to put the FQ filename into the clipboard.Jul 20 05:48
cubexyzok, I guess qdbut is a KDE 4 thingJul 20 05:50
cubexyzsounds interesting thoughJul 20 05:51
msb__Then I go to some other konsole and type    cp  (or mv, or diff, etc) middle mouse button    and the file is copied or moved, etc.Jul 20 05:51
msb__Opps qdbus, not butJul 20 05:51
cubexyzah :)Jul 20 05:51
cubexyzfunny, I've been using KDE 3 a long time, and I just discovered the history search Jul 20 05:53
msb__looks like kde4 klipper's history is invoked when you right-click on its little notifier(?) in the panelJul 20 05:55
cubexyzI just start typing "books" or whatever and everthing that matches that pops upJul 20 05:56
cubexyzkind of neatJul 20 05:56
msb__Where do you type that?Jul 20 05:57
cubexyzyou just click the klipper icon and start typing Jul 20 05:57
cubexyzwith the pointer on the klipper windowJul 20 05:57
msb__Yup, that works.Jul 20 05:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 Is a Perfect Linux Distro Port forJul 20 05:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Kit Kat http://t.co/RJZGyO84C4Jul 20 05:59
TweetTuxMachines @speedytux      (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 05:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n66tcJul 20 05:59
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msb__cubexyz: I'll send you the scripts for p and the ones it calls, but you'll probably have to tailor them to whatever systems you want to use them on.Jul 20 06:00
cubexyzok, thanksJul 20 06:00
cubexyzI am curious what you didJul 20 06:00
msb__I don't have the old version using xclip but it's easy enough to substitute that.Jul 20 06:01
msb__wow, syfy channel is showing Sharktopus vs. Pteracuda, Sharktopus vs. Whalewolf, Piranhaconda, and Dinoshark!Jul 20 06:06
msb__Actually, that should be spelled "Syphy Channel".  It also has "professional wrestling".Jul 20 06:08
cubexyzuhJul 20 06:13
cubexyzis sharktopus a comedy or something? :)Jul 20 06:14
msb__It produced one good scifi movie many years ago -- Habitat 1997.  Jul 20 06:18
msb__I've never seen sharktopus.  Maybe it would be best described as a computer-graphics demo.Jul 20 06:19
cubexyzdid you hear what schestowitz heard from a M$ guy?Jul 20 06:19
cubexyzthat windows 10 crashes a lotJul 20 06:19
msb__Wow!  Who woulda thunk it!Jul 20 06:20
msb__Anyhow, I have Habitat on a DVD, but it's somewhere in seven huge boxes of them.Jul 20 06:21
cubexyzanother thing I noticed on a customers computer running win7Jul 20 06:22
cubexyzthe GUI appeared to reset itself a lotJul 20 06:23
cubexyzlike several times per hourJul 20 06:23
cubexyzit seemed really badJul 20 06:23
cubexyzXenix didn't have those problems (based on Unix)Jul 20 06:24
msb__See?  GNU/Linux really is much better.  Roy wasnJul 20 06:24
msb__See?  GNU/Linux really is much better.  Roy wasn't just making that up!Jul 20 06:25
cubexyzyou can't argue with empirical evidenceJul 20 06:25
msb__After 20 years microshit still doesn't know how to make an OS.Jul 20 06:26
cubexyzI thought they had improved with w2k being based on NT which was based on ideas from VMS/CutlerJul 20 06:29
cubexyzbut win2k wasn't as good as LinuxJul 20 06:30
cubexyzI can't say win7 was good with all the GUI resetsJul 20 06:31
cubexyzworse than I thought reallyJul 20 06:32
msb__cubexyz: ok, p files coming to youJul 20 06:35
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msb__Best demo of all time!  Hope the person who made it got a job at ILM, etc.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4Jul 20 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | What's in the Box? - Test Film 2009 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n6794 ]Jul 20 06:50
msb__OK here are the p files for everyone!  Just put in a good word for me with the Nobel Prize Committee.  http://cosmicpenguin.com/pfiles.zipJul 20 07:19
msb__and the repetitive strain injury foundationJul 20 07:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Make Counter-Strike: Global OffensiveJul 20 09:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Run Much Faster On AMD Catalyst For LinuxJul 20 09:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Em5mMCM87C (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 09:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68i6Jul 20 09:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #PisiLinux 1.2 is out http://t.co/3U7YdEIeoXJul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pisilinux.org) http://t.co/iHSR3iGEF1Jul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com) #gnu #linuxJul 20 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pisilinux.org | İndir | Pisi LinuxJul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines                 #pardusJul 20 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Pisi Linux 1.2 is available!Jul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68i8Jul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be ReleasedJul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is AlreadyJul 20 09:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net)Jul 20 09:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.netJul 20 09:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Celestian Tales: Old North A Beautiful LookingJul 20 09:20
TweetTuxMachines                 JRPG Styled Game Comes To Linux Next MonthJul 20 09:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zbVURYYNex (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 09:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68noJul 20 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Another stable release, #GlusterFS 3.5.5 isJul 20 09:20
TweetTuxMachines                 ready http://t.co/GZGwSBPcaUJul 20 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.nixpanic.net)Jul 20 09:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68npJul 20 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneakyJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 serial content tracker http://t.co/FZG7RTIZH8Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker | Tux MachinesJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68zeJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with LinuxJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cyJ7TACBby (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68zfJul 20 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pisi Linux 1.2 Officially Released with Linux Kernel 3.19.8, KDE 4.14.3, and MATE 1.8 | Tux MachinesJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7,Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Zk1coDDD3N (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68zgJul 20 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 | Tux MachinesJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT),Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/LinuxJul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8VpCThlk2b (techrights.org)Jul 20 09:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n68zhJul 20 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Increasingly Discontinued (Mobile, RT), So Microsoft Wants to Take Over GNU/Linux | TechrightsJul 20 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be ReleasedJul 20 10:37
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is AlreadyJul 20 10:37
TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok        Available http://t.co/VgjMbtHJMz (linuxg.net)Jul 20 10:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/60AGuZfaZD (linuxg.net)Jul 20 10:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n69feJul 20 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-5 Update Will Be Released Tomorrow. The Full Changelog Is Already Available | LinuxG.netJul 20 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update will Bring The Refunds For Purchased Apps Feature, The New Thumnailer And Many Other New Features | LinuxG.netJul 20 10:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2GJul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n69xxJul 20 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.2-rc3 https://t.co/9j4GZxjvKlJul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (lkml.org) http://t.co/kIk1BVwrNwJul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 20 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 4.2-rc3Jul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n69y0Jul 20 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.2 Release Candidate 3 with Updated Drivers - SoftpediaJul 20 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDEJul 20 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5rizvUZBzz (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 11:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n69z9Jul 20 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fiber: Yet Another Web Browser For Qt/KDE - PhoronixJul 20 11:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in theJul 20 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 World, Runs Ubuntu http://t.co/aZPMsrh2THJul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tianhe-2, Most Powerful Supercomputer in the World, Runs Ubuntu - SoftpediaJul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n69zdJul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is thisJul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 the future of phones? https://t.co/KoK1q9MQxNJul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpit.com)Jul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n69zfJul 20 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? - AndroidPITJul 20 11:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their MultiJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Anti-Malware Scanner MetascanJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/whdoNtywxy (www.itproportal.com)Jul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 proprietaryJul 20 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | OPSWAT adds support for Linux to their Multi Anti-Malware Scanner Metascan | ITProPortal.comJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a19Jul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and ItJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Needs Testing http://t.co/JiCm2tnRDzJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 20 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Welcome Has Been Updated and It Needs Testing - SoftpediaJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a1aJul 20 11:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneakyJul 20 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 serial content tracker http://t.co/gowqlQ1erZJul 20 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Jul 20 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | North Korea's Red Star Linux inserts sneaky serial content tracker • The RegisterJul 20 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a1bJul 20 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7,Jul 20 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8Jul 20 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a32Jul 20 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - SoftpediaJul 20 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tabletJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 with 8 and 9.7 inch screen optionsJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KAO1uVDK4z (betanews.com)Jul 20 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Samsung announces Galaxy Tab S2 Android tablet with 8 and 9.7 inch screen optionsJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a33Jul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currentlyJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 available http://t.co/OzvxHM8USoJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phonearena.com)Jul 20 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | 5 of the thinnest Android smartphones currently availableJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a34Jul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses LinuxJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 3.18.18 LTS http://t.co/GGS5waeMPwJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 20 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | OpenWrt 15.05 Release Candidate 3 Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.18 LTS - SoftpediaJul 20 11:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6a35Jul 20 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on theJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board ComputerJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bfnBg7RDDa (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6afpJul 20 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Can Now Be Installed on the ODROID-XU4 ARM Single-Board Computer - SoftpediaJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light andJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Different OS http://t.co/s2USKEFySWJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 Is a Light and Different OS - SoftpediaJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6afqJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second UbuntuJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone has much improved hardwareJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FO11Nk1nJq (www.alphr.com) lowJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines                 marksJul 20 12:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6afsJul 20 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: Second Ubuntu Phone has much improved hardware | AlphrJul 20 12:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7,Jul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8Jul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok        http://t.co/RBKvfO4foA (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Exton|OS Linux Distro Gets Linux Kernel 4.0.7, Based on Ubuntu 15.04 and Debian 8 - SoftpediaJul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6awnJul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial ContentJul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 http://t.co/1v2WDa1LWsJul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 20 13:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6awpJul 20 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/7/2015: Red Star Linux Serial Content Tracker, Linux 4.2 RC3 | TechrightsJul 20 13:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OSS Leftovers http://t.co/pBz3WJ404GJul 20 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 13:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6betJul 20 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 20 13:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/ujjHwPhmPMJul 20 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 20 13:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6beuJul 20 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/q2i8dcMlgUJul 20 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 20 13:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6bevJul 20 13:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/iV9YvIrZizJul 20 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 16:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6dp0Jul 20 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 20 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/WvXVo0PqGeJul 20 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 20 16:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6dp1Jul 20 16:54
*TweetTuxMachines @hearthstoneR9 favourited 'Proteus from Entroware Is a Powerful Gaming Laptop...'Jul 20 17:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu MX4 ‘Ubuntu Edition’ Smartphone NowJul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Everyone In EU http://t.co/36nC8mZBn8Jul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tomshardware.com)Jul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e2dJul 20 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Meizu MX4 'Ubuntu Edition' Smartphone Now Everyone In EUJul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “Meizu and Canonical chose to bring the MX4Jul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Edition in Europe in a different way.”Jul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hlEPfcNcJA (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e2eJul 20 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition Is Now Available for Purchase Freely in Europe - SoftpediaJul 20 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS onJul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam for LinuxJul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e65Jul 20 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaJul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/DSl5P9pa2GJul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Jul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e52Jul 20 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PLUMgrid Joins @LinuxFoundation as Gold MemberJul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5pBKWhxOfj (news.sys-con.com)Jul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e95Jul 20 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sys-con.com | PLUMgrid Joins Linux Foundation as Gold Member | news.sys-con.comJul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mint 17.2​: The year's best Linux desktopJul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uFm735UcRm (www.zdnet.com)Jul 20 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Mint 17.2​: The year's best Linux desktop | ZDNetJul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e96Jul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update withJul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/GhWM8h5NfiJul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6e98Jul 20 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon - SoftpediaJul 20 17:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard forJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 $109.99 http://t.co/G77DqRH9ASJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6edlJul 20 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 | Tux MachinesJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mint 17.2​: The year's best Linux desktopJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Ql62x0Enw5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6edmJul 20 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 17.2​: The year's best Linux desktop | Tux MachinesJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard forJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 $109.99 http://t.co/VsnN9OFdXW (www.cnet.com)Jul 20 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Get a 13.3-inch Android tablet and keyboard for $109.99 - CNETJul 20 17:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6ednJul 20 17:51
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TweetTuxMachines@RamiSilawi      #Sailfish OS 2.0 vs #Android comparison: isJul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    this the future of phones?Jul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines @stanmobitech   http://t.co/a6JgJMT4Ba (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (via @tuxmachines)Jul 20 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS 2.0 vs Android comparison: is this the future of phones? | Tux MachinesJul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6f06Jul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier OnJul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu LinuxJul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JeckFMgrdL (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 18:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6f07Jul 20 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel's Broadwell i7-5775C Runs Much Happier On Fedora 22 Than Ubuntu Linux - PhoronixJul 20 18:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update withJul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest MATE and Cinnamon http://t.co/ocMtcF1QSyJul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6f4rJul 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Gets Its Fifth Update with Latest MATE and Cinnamon | Tux MachinesJul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Ubuntu http://t.co/ISetn1PGVxJul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesJul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6f4sJul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You?Jul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/tbIXXhzSlw (www.linux.com)Jul 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6f4uJul 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Linux.comJul 20 18:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/ORvk61eQevJul 20 20:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neptuneos.com | Neptune 4.4 Release - Neptune ENJul 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6ghfJul 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 Jul 20 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 "Kdenlive 15.08 will be released with KDEJul 20 20:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org | Preparing for Kdenlive 15.08 | KdenliveJul 20 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You?Jul 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/crAKSiID0B (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Linux Chrome OS Clone is Right For You? | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Neptune 4.4 Release http://t.co/oIvE8C4Tm7Jul 20 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neptune 4.4 Release | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs &Jul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Snapper http://t.co/r2hUUTQhs5Jul 20 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper - PhoronixJul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6gliJul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS onJul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam for LinuxJul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/IMiZbCEHQZ (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6gljJul 20 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Codename CURE Is a Free Multiplayer FPS on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaJul 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on SteamJul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux http://t.co/4k6WMYvneHJul 20 21:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Biodrone Battle 2D Action Game Arrives on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaJul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6h1yJul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control SystemsJul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/MWpn60wJzD (www.linuxjournal.com)Jul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6h21Jul 20 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Embed Linux in Monitoring and Control Systems | Linux JournalJul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs &Jul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Snapper http://t.co/KqZkXfhaqkJul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 21:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6h22Jul 20 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Doing Fedora Snapshots/Rollbacks With Btrfs & Snapper | Tux MachinesJul 20 21:30
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MinceRhttp://www.theallium.com/engineering/computer-programming-to-be-officially-renamed-googling-stackoverflow/Jul 20 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theallium.com | Computer Programming To Be Officially Renamed "Googling Stackoverflow" - The Allium [ http://ur1.ca/n6hdn ]Jul 20 22:00
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cubexyzthis is old but worth a look:Jul 20 22:41
cubexyzhttp://www.osnews.com/story/15235/Investigating-the-Plan-9-Operating-System/Jul 20 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osnews.com | Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System [ http://ur1.ca/n6ht5 ]Jul 20 22:41
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MinceRhttps://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/Jul 20 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhartikk.github.io | ArnoldCJul 20 23:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NoDPI/status/623251004977451008Jul 20 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NoDPI: @schestowitz The only weapon you have is your wallet. Govt believe you have choice, and if you choose not to use it, they will not regulate.Jul 20 23:11
cubexyzporting my hexeditor to quasijarus... should be interestingJul 20 23:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NoDPI/status/623251289837846528Jul 20 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NoDPI: @schestowitz ... sadly. Consequently... BT can get away with screwing their customers over and don't much care about complaints.Jul 20 23:11
cubexyzsince the original program was written for XenixJul 20 23:11
cubexyzno free-nets in UK?Jul 20 23:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first seriousJul 20 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Android PC http://t.co/inV2fec6IyJul 20 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i6pJul 20 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious Android PC | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux without Flash: User TipsJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9CSsqxJURE (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i6rJul 20 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux without Flash: User Tips | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably aJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 copyright violation http://t.co/1en3EFJcxpJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i6wJul 20 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Democratizing Open Source Technology to EmpowerJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Innovators http://t.co/ZGGC8V2bXCJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i71Jul 20 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Democratizing Open Source Technology to Empower Innovators | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei Bears Open Source Gifts From ChinaJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VdKfkCaxYk (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i72Jul 20 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Bears Open Source Gifts From China | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open SourceJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OZ7C09iBy1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i74Jul 20 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DragonFlyBSD Finally Has Working Valley View /Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail Graphics SupportJul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TLq52tzFJd (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i76Jul 20 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DragonFlyBSD Finally Has Working Valley View / Bay Trail Graphics Support | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:13
cubexyzah now I remember... quasijarus doesn't have termioJul 20 23:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/623254370914844672Jul 20 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Ted Stevens called 'em tubes. Even more stupid than pipes!Jul 20 23:15
schestowitzis he on tubes yet?Jul 20 23:15
cubexyzit's not a big truck :)Jul 20 23:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/623255018288861184Jul 20 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I think 6 feet underJul 20 23:17
cubexyzdied in Aug 2010Jul 20 23:17
schestowitzcubexyz: I think notJul 20 23:17
schestowitzthe former topicJul 20 23:17
schestowitzI didn't know he diedJul 20 23:17
cubexyzyeah in a plane crashJul 20 23:17
schestowitzwell, good riddance, given his other policiesJul 20 23:17
schestowitzone of those 'extremist' politiciansJul 20 23:17
schestowitzI can't recall some of his other controversial stancesJul 20 23:18
cubexyzit seems I'm still stuck in sysv landJul 20 23:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDEJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WP9XSevymk (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i9oJul 20 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:19
cubexyzmy previous work on Xenix was sysv style programmingJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@RamiSilawi      An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open SourceJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ILYa6CVhpE (www.tuxmachines.org) RTJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachinesJul 20 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Intimate View: Standards vs. Open Source | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i9pJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want AndroidJul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SivVLPqPVo (www.tomsguide.com)Jul 20 23:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6i9rJul 20 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want Android - Tom's GuideJul 20 23:19
cubexyzLinux is basically sysv at least to meJul 20 23:20
cubexyztermio is from sysvJul 20 23:20
cubexyzyou can't just ignore all thatJul 20 23:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A secret option in your Android phone can helpJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 make it work faster http://t.co/k8uYq0mz1NJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (uk.businessinsider.com)Jul 20 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Speed up your Android smartphone - Business InsiderJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6iazJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first seriousJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Android PC http://t.co/tRPmgljleFJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Jul 20 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | $30 Remix Mini aims to be the first serious Android PC ·  LinuxGizmos.comJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6ib0Jul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux without Flash: User TipsJul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RhWIjeIATY (www.datamation.com)Jul 20 23:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6ib1Jul 20 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Linux without Flash: User Tips - DatamationJul 20 23:22
MinceRit's more like a mix of sysv, bsd and posix :)Jul 20 23:24
cubexyztermios is (evidently) identical to struct termio use by SVR4Jul 20 23:26
cubexyzbut the types are differentJul 20 23:26
MinceRps even lets you mix sysv-style and bsd-style parametersJul 20 23:26
cubexyzif I had access to a motif based hexediter that would help speed things upJul 20 23:27
cubexyzthen port to openbsd would be easyJul 20 23:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/623257443854872576Jul 20 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Well .. any OS without #Adobe #Flash is super easy . . one step @schestowitz 1) Don't fucking install flash!Jul 20 23:27
schestowitzindeed, some come with it alreadyJul 20 23:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably aJul 20 23:28
TweetTuxMachines                 copyright violation http://t.co/49LDEwWU1tJul 20 23:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (mjg59.dreamwidth.org)Jul 20 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violationJul 20 23:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6idcJul 20 23:28
*TweetTuxMachines @RamiSilawi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'I Regret My iPhone 6, Now I Want...'Jul 20 23:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/623258515453259776Jul 20 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz What's putting my off the iPhone is insane change so can't upload pics 👎🏼Jul 20 23:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/623258899299344385Jul 20 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Yah I have indeed seen people with (mostly windows) with weird vendor specific software that includes flash, terrible practice @schestowitzJul 20 23:32
schestowitzI hope my distro stops itJul 20 23:32
cubexyzyou can't really count on any distro too muchJul 20 23:33
MinceRespecially not on the ones that use systemd by defaultJul 20 23:34
cubexyzI'm building up a list of ncurses programs and other stuff I'd like to see in a distroJul 20 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably aJul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    copyright violation http://t.co/1en3EFJcxpJul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines @tokvbok        (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6ij4Jul 20 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your Ubuntu-based container image is probably a copyright violation | Tux MachinesJul 20 23:45
cubexyzhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/best-terminal-applications-for-linux-unix-macosx/Jul 20 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | 15 Greatest Open Source Terminal Applications Of 2012 [ http://ur1.ca/c0r8m ]Jul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDE Jul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rQ2wZUtmvTJul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk)Jul 20 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk | Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 "Ascella" KDEJul 20 23:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n6ij5Jul 20 23:45
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cubexyzthere's on continuity with distrosJul 20 23:51
cubexyzthere's no continuity with distrosJul 20 23:52
cubexyzif you use something old like fc1 or openbsd 4.7 your repos have stopped workingJul 20 23:52
cubexyzI'd like to make a distro where that doesn't happenJul 20 23:53
cubexyzof course you can go tarball and fix stuff yourselfJul 20 23:54
cubexyzsourceforge can crap out Jul 20 23:54
MinceRsourceforge is unreliableJul 20 23:54
MinceRthey put malware in installersJul 20 23:54
MinceRalso, their site is down nowadaysJul 20 23:55
cubexyzyeah that's kind of why I'm gathering up tarballs and archiving themJul 20 23:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/surlydev/status/623267499048570880Jul 21 00:13
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cubexyzmsb__, if you like vi you might want to check out vifmJul 21 00:15
cubexyzit's a vi file managerJul 21 00:16
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cubexyzI find if you really learn about configure and it's options then dealing with programs at the tarball level isn't too badJul 21 00:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/surlydev/status/623270467898613760Jul 21 00:20
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msb__cubexyz: I have never used vi.  I use the editor in mc.Jul 21 00:20
schestowitzvi is useful sometimesJul 21 00:21
schestowitzI prefer nanpJul 21 00:21
schestowitznanoJul 21 00:21
cubexyzO_oJul 21 00:21
schestowitzfar more intutiveJul 21 00:21
schestowitzless things to memoriseJul 21 00:21
MinceR"The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that it's all learned."Jul 21 00:24
cubexyzvifm has some similarities to midnight commanderJul 21 00:31
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cubexyzschestowitz, you might find gvim more platable compared to vim or viJul 21 00:40
cubexyze.g. you can make the font biggerJul 21 00:41
MinceRand you have a menu and a toolbarJul 21 00:42
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cubexyzI do use kedit sometimesJul 21 00:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/623276428512116736Jul 21 00:43
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schestowitzOnly fools those who are lost causesJul 21 00:43
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msb__schestowitz: I tried nano, but it seems less intuitive than the mc editor.  Since I already use mc as my filemanager, the good integration of its editor is helpful.Jul 21 02:06
msb__The only thing I miss is being able to invoke a program (e.g. in C) upon the selected text from within the editor.  Now I have to write out the selection to the edit buffer file (one keystroke), run the program (e.g. 3 keystrokes), delete the selection (one keystroke), and read back the modified edit buffer file (one keystroke).Jul 21 02:09
oiaohmmsb__: I remember what the difference isJul 21 02:11
oiaohmnano makes it really fast to copy and duplicate lines.Jul 21 02:11
oiaohmmcedit is better with mouseJul 21 02:11
MinceRvim makes it fast tooJul 21 02:13
msb__F3 selects words, lines, or columnsJul 21 02:13
MinceRand gvim is even better with mouse :>Jul 21 02:13
oiaohmmsb__: Ctrl-K the Cut Text in nano default is cut a complete lineJul 21 02:13
MinceRin vim, cut a line is ddJul 21 02:13
msb__F5 copies selection to cursor, F6 moves selection to cursor.Jul 21 02:14
oiaohmMinceR: I have dyslexia so remember key commands that at not displayed on screen is problemmatic.Jul 21 02:14
msb__what could be faster?  Selection is shown in reverse video.Jul 21 02:14
MinceRoiaohm: i seeJul 21 02:14
oiaohmvim and emacs don't get along with me.Jul 21 02:15
oiaohmnano and mcedit are workable.Jul 21 02:15
msb__vim is too primitive and emacs too complicated for me.Jul 21 02:17
oiaohmmsb__: not really vim can do everything emacs can.Jul 21 02:17
oiaohmBut its how many hoops are you willing to jump through to get there.Jul 21 02:18
msb__rightJul 21 02:18
oiaohmand some things vim does simplely are extreamly hard in emacsJul 21 02:18
msb__"Emacs is a great operating system.  All it needs is a good editor."Jul 21 02:18
oiaohmMain reason I don't use either I screw up the keyboard codes all the time.Jul 21 02:18
MinceRvim is many things, 'primitive' is not one of those thingsJul 21 02:18
MinceRand there's a good editor for emacs, it's called "evil"Jul 21 02:19
oiaohmMinceR: does it have on screen display of the commands in a usable memu.Jul 21 02:20
oiaohmIf so I will look at it.Jul 21 02:20
MinceRno, but you can display a cheat-sheet beside it :)Jul 21 02:20
cubexyzthere's gvim and kvimJul 21 02:20
msb__I meant the UI of vim seems primitive to me.Jul 21 02:20
MinceRi wasn't aware of kvim, only yzis (or what it was)Jul 21 02:20
MinceRi think the UI is pretty good -- you have easy-to-remember and easy-to-type commands and you have a command lineJul 21 02:21
oiaohmWhen I am stuck on terminal its nano or mcedit for me.Jul 21 02:21
MinceRi'm waiting for nvim to get a GUIJul 21 02:21
cubexyzhmmm, maybe I'm wrong about kvimJul 21 02:22
cubexyzI thought it existedJul 21 02:22
MinceR("evil" is a vi emulation mode that isn't designed to convert you to using emacs without it, unlike viper)Jul 21 02:22
oiaohmThere are a lot of people out there like me who just simple cannot cope with the idea of a command line driven editor.Jul 21 02:22
cubexyzso what did you use in the 1980s?Jul 21 02:22
MinceRwell, it's not exactly "driver" by it but it's there when you need itJul 21 02:22
MinceRs/ver/ven/Jul 21 02:22
oiaohmcubexyz: picoJul 21 02:23
oiaohmpico was the editor out of the email package called pine and nano is a reimplementation of it.Jul 21 02:23
MinceRi used pico or nano when i was setting up gentooJul 21 02:23
oiaohmYes pico and nano that identical unless you remember the command you run you cannot tell the difference.Jul 21 02:24
msb__In mc, when you return to a previously edited file, the cursor goes to the same place you left it last time.  Do those other editors do that?Jul 21 02:24
MinceRvim can be set up to do that, i haveJul 21 02:24
cubexyzI see now kvim existed but it was orphanedJul 21 02:25
msb__My favorite editor was BRIEF in PCDOS.  There's a Linux version for about $150.Jul 21 02:26
oiaohmmsb__: pico and nano both support +100 for move from start of file down 100 lines and so on.   By default nano and pico just go to start.Jul 21 02:26
oiaohmMind you both nano and pico are design to operate without needing a configuration file.Jul 21 02:27
msb__oiaohm: But I want the cursor to go where I left it last time.Jul 21 02:27
MinceRactually it's not set up here, but i could find the way to set it upJul 21 02:28
cubexyzfound kvim :)Jul 21 02:28
cubexyzlooks like 2003 eraJul 21 02:28
MinceRhttp://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Restore_cursor_to_file_position_in_previous_editing_sessionJul 21 02:28
msb__MinceR: But not in vim.  Don't like vim.Jul 21 02:28
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cubexyzhow far back does pico go?Jul 21 02:29
msb__my mceditor has a 1024 line filepos file.Jul 21 02:30
MinceRas far as pine does, i thinkJul 21 02:30
cubexyzweird kvim has all this gtk stuff in itJul 21 02:31
cubexyzon Xenix and Venix and old BSD it was always vi I usedJul 21 02:31
oiaohmmsb__: I knew there was a difference.   +line,column  is support by nano command line where mcedit only supports going to a line number.Jul 21 02:32
cubexyzin the IBM mainframe world I used XEDITJul 21 02:32
oiaohmmsb__: yes nano does not remember where you were last time.   But reading a gcc error with error on X line number X column nano is great.Jul 21 02:32
cubexyzof course on really old Unix you had edJul 21 02:32
msb__oiaohm: mcedit returns to the same line and character as it was last on.Jul 21 02:33
MinceRed is the standard text editor.Jul 21 02:33
MinceRhttp://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.htmlJul 21 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Ed, man! !man ed- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)Jul 21 02:33
oiaohmmsb__: it returns to the last position it was on because it writing into a log file.Jul 21 02:34
oiaohmmsb__: stuff like embeded devices mcedit is not exactly the best.Jul 21 02:34
msb__oiaohm: Correct ~/.mc/fileposJul 21 02:34
oiaohmDepending on what I am working depends if I am nano or mceditJul 21 02:35
oiaohmBoth have their place.Jul 21 02:35
oiaohmYes nano has a mouse mode and it suxsJul 21 02:38
cubexyzwhat Unixes had pico, I can't recall seeing thatJul 21 02:38
MinceRthe ones that have pine, presumablyJul 21 02:39
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oiaohmMinceR: or the ones you added pine on to.Jul 21 02:44
oiaohmcubexyz: to be correct pine is the 90sJul 21 02:44
oiaohmI cannot remember exactly what I used in the 80sJul 21 02:44
oiaohmPossiblely something really horible like MS dos editJul 21 02:45
cubexyzthe BSD world was vi pretty far backJul 21 02:45
oiaohmfreebsd also has eeJul 21 02:45
oiaohmcubexyz: going way back there have been altertives to using viJul 21 02:47
oiaohmUsing vi or emacs I need a cheat sheet or I am completely screwed.Jul 21 02:48
cubexyzsure, vi was originally considered to be a memory pigJul 21 02:48
cubexyzThompson said he preferred edJul 21 02:48
oiaohmI have done horibles like echo test >> file because the system only had vi and I could not remember how to use it.Jul 21 02:49
cubexyzif I run 32v for vax780 it doesn't have viJul 21 02:49
cubexyz32v basically being the v7 port to Vax 11/780Jul 21 02:49
cubexyzI guess BSD 2.0 was the first to use viJul 21 02:50
cubexyzI'm not sure what the heck kvim is now that I've looked at itJul 21 02:51
cubexyzugh, it's just a version of gvimJul 21 02:52
cubexyzI've been trickedJul 21 02:52
oiaohmne I can kinda get along with as long as I remember f1 open memuJul 21 02:52
cubexyzin fact in old BSD vi was a pain in the buttJul 21 02:55
oiaohmee under bsd is remember to press esc to display menuJul 21 02:55
cubexyzthe hardware support was poorJul 21 02:55
cubexyzso I ended up using edJul 21 02:55
oiaohmcubexyz: I have got very good at find text editors with memus.Jul 21 02:55
cubexyzoiaohm, that's good :)Jul 21 02:56
cubexyzyou can help find kvim :)Jul 21 02:56
MinceRgvim has a menu :>Jul 21 02:56
cubexyzkate had some sort of vim modeJul 21 02:57
oiaohmMinceR: I just tried it I remembered why I hated it.Jul 21 02:57
cubexyznot sure if it's still aroundJul 21 02:57
oiaohmMinceR: Screw having modes as well.Jul 21 02:58
oiaohmI am editing a file I just want to edit it.Jul 21 02:58
MinceRevery text editor has modes, it's just that many of them aren't honest about itJul 21 02:58
oiaohmThe ones I like just always return to insert mode.  MinceRJul 21 02:58
cubexyzseems like kvim and Yzis are orphanedJul 21 02:58
MinceRinput will be processed differently if you have overstrike instead of insert, or if you have text selected, or if you're in the menu, or if you're entering the name of the file to saveJul 21 02:58
MinceRevim uses insert mode by defaultJul 21 02:59
cubexyzwhat is evim?Jul 21 03:02
MinceR"easy" vimJul 21 03:02
MinceRit ships with vimJul 21 03:02
oiaohmMinceR: at long last a vim I can get along with.Jul 21 03:02
cubexyzohJul 21 03:02
MinceRit also apparently doesn't even let you go to normal modeJul 21 03:02
MinceRit probably requires XJul 21 03:02
cubexyzlooks just like gvimJul 21 03:02
oiaohmcubexyz: it looks the same true.   But it behaves differently.Jul 21 03:03
cubexyzsame toolkit though right?Jul 21 03:03
MinceRi don't know if it lets you access all of the functionality of vim, thoughJul 21 03:03
MinceRyeah, it's just a symlink to vim.gtkJul 21 03:04
oiaohmBeing limited to X11 is a problem.Jul 21 03:04
MinceRlike gvimJul 21 03:04
oiaohmBut something like evim built with ncurses would be good.Jul 21 03:04
MinceRand even vimJul 21 03:04
MinceRso it just decides how to work based on the command nameJul 21 03:04
cubexyzI thought I was being clever writing my own hex editor Jul 21 03:04
cubexyzbut then termios vs termio :)Jul 21 03:05
cubexyzdamn programmers always have to do things differentJul 21 03:05
MinceRevim would probably be unusable without the menu, which only works with X11Jul 21 03:05
cubexyzdoesn't gvim revert to regular vim without X?Jul 21 03:06
MinceRit probably doesJul 21 03:06
MinceR[mincer@darkstar:pts/17:/home/mincer]% DISPLAY="" evimJul 21 03:07
MinceRE233: cannot open displayJul 21 03:07
oiaohmevim can switch out of insert mode. MinceRJul 21 03:07
oiaohmand use everything gvim can but its just not simple.Jul 21 03:07
MinceRat this point, gvim waits for enter and starts as vim, evim quitsJul 21 03:07
MinceR:)Jul 21 03:07
cubexyzyou aren't actually running Darkstar Linux though right? :)Jul 21 03:07
MinceRoh, i didn't look hard enoughJul 21 03:08
MinceRnoJul 21 03:08
MinceRmy ThinkPad X220i Tablet is called darkstarJul 21 03:08
MinceRit's running crunchbang stillJul 21 03:08
oiaohmTo switch out of insert mode is under edit->global settings->toggle insert modeJul 21 03:08
MinceRyeah, i noticed this timeJul 21 03:08
oiaohmBut evim is how I want a editor starting.Jul 21 03:08
cubexyzall I wanted was to try kvim, not enter the grand labyrinth of lost text editorsJul 21 03:09
MinceRlolJul 21 03:09
oiaohmI don't want to have to think about modes.Jul 21 03:09
oiaohmUnless I want do something needing modes.Jul 21 03:09
MinceRi think all visual editors have modesJul 21 03:09
MinceRmaybe line-based ones don'tJul 21 03:09
oiaohmNote the that I don't want to think about it.Jul 21 03:09
cubexyzno, line editors have modes tooJul 21 03:10
oiaohmSo it may have modes but todo a general edit I don't want to have to switch modes todo it.Jul 21 03:10
cubexyzyou're in insert mode, or notJul 21 03:10
MinceRi could conceive of a line editor that doesn't have modes, but i'm not sure if one actually existsJul 21 03:10
MinceRi've never used any of themJul 21 03:10
oiaohmed under dos did not have modes and it was absolutely horibleJul 21 03:10
MinceR:)Jul 21 03:10
MinceRedlin?Jul 21 03:11
oiaohmYep edlinJul 21 03:11
MinceReven edlin has modes apparently -- ^C stops inserting linesJul 21 03:11
cubexyzyou have to be able to enter commands :)Jul 21 03:11
MinceRif we had one that doesn't let you just keep adding lines but would have to use a command for each line, that could be arguably modelessJul 21 03:12
cubexyzotherwise everything you type would be added textJul 21 03:12
oiaohmMinceR: really early version of edlin only allowed adding 1 line at a time.Jul 21 03:12
MinceR:)Jul 21 03:12
oiaohmno ^C feature.Jul 21 03:12
oiaohmYes truly horible,Jul 21 03:12
MinceRi guess that was the truly modeless editor, thenJul 21 03:12
cubexyzcat would be the closest thing to a modeless editorJul 21 03:13
oiaohmonly modeless editor that still alive is echo test >> file.Jul 21 03:13
oiaohmAnd it not a great editor.Jul 21 03:13
cubexyznot much of an 'editor' though :)Jul 21 03:13
MinceRhm, TECO might be itJul 21 03:14
MinceRbut it's too late for me to try and understand it :)Jul 21 03:14
oiaohmhttp://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TecoEditorJul 21 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-c2.com | Teco EditorJul 21 03:16
oiaohmReally teco is a nightmare.Jul 21 03:16
MinceRindeedJul 21 03:16
oiaohmI like how its called a editor when its an extreamly strange programming languageJul 21 03:17
cubexyzwell PDP-1 had TECOJul 21 03:17
cubexyzso you know, you have to take the limitations of the era into accountJul 21 03:17
oiaohmYes teco makes emacs seams safeJul 21 03:17
cubexyzbasically a program that predates the PDP-4Jul 21 03:18
oiaohmPlease note someone made a video editor that uses teco commands.Jul 21 03:19
cubexyzthe era of 80-pass Fortran compilersJul 21 03:19
cubexyzeverything was painful in those daysJul 21 03:19
cubexyzsorry 63 pass fortran compiler :)Jul 21 03:21
oiaohmhttps://github.com/rhaberkorn/videoteco-forkJul 21 03:21
cubexyzor something like thatJul 21 03:21
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oiaohmI did forgot a modeless editor.  sedJul 21 03:21
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cubexyzthe cool thing these days is, people can run a ton of different thingsJul 21 03:41
cubexyzI can run DMS if I wantJul 21 03:42
oiaohmThe hard reality is sysvinit and a lot of the script based init systems had to die.Jul 21 03:43
oiaohmProblem is nothing that worked was really ready.Jul 21 03:43
oiaohmWithout modification my debian system running systemd starts all bar KDM.   KDM due to still being sysvinit I have to put a few extra in so it starts in the right place.Jul 21 03:44
oiaohmThis is down from 12 modifications when systemd first released to 1 now.Jul 21 03:45
cubexyzbut doesn't openrc and upstart use scripts also?Jul 21 03:47
oiaohmOf course the system I am on disobeyed all the systemd install instructions.   / and /usr and /usr/local are different partitions  /var /home /tmp /opt are also different partitions.Jul 21 03:47
oiaohmopenrc and upstart both have wrapper programs around the outside of the scripts.Jul 21 03:48
oiaohmThat is how come they can track services.Jul 21 03:48
oiaohmcubexyz: script based init is a really small init system with almost all the logic for service tracking attempted to be done by script.Jul 21 03:49
oiaohmcubexyz: that just simply does not work.Jul 21 03:49
cubexyzsystemd is still crapJul 21 04:00
cubexyzand all the bsd servers don't use itJul 21 04:00
cubexyznot to mention the plan9 people have their own init as wellJul 21 04:00
cubexyzlet people choice the init system they likeJul 21 04:02
cubexyzs/choice/choose/Jul 21 04:02
cubexyzas for the people who aren't even running a server... wellJul 21 04:03
cubexyzas long as it starts up and works that's all they care aboutJul 21 04:04
cubexyzkick out of X into init 1 maybeJul 21 04:05
cubexyzI'm still learning stuff about kdm 3.XJul 21 04:09
cubexyzso after 12 years I still don't know all about itJul 21 04:09
cubexyzso before folks even learn about the old stuff the new stuff comes along Jul 21 04:10
cubexyzI'd love to see if the systemd folks are getting _years_ uptime like the BSD folksJul 21 04:12
cubexyzI bet they aren'tJul 21 04:12
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oiaohmcubexyz: years of uptime was not an option remaining on sysvinitJul 21 04:26
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oiaohmcubexyz: BSD and plan9 init system was in fact designed to match the OS kernel under it.Jul 21 04:27
oiaohmcubexyz: choice of init system is 1 thing.   The fact the choices of init for Linux have not matched the kernel have not really been real choice.Jul 21 04:28
oiaohmItems like needrestart to restart services running out of date libraries need proper service tracking.Jul 21 04:30
oiaohmThat is why years of uptime with most of the existing Linux init systems were not possible.Jul 21 04:30
oiaohmcubexyz: I will give you that systemd might not be the best choice.   The reality is something had to change.Jul 21 04:31
oiaohmcubexyz: the kdm issue I have with systemd is starting it before it started logind and other items kdm needs so of course it crashes.Jul 21 04:32
oiaohmcubexyz: bad point it crashes using a method that appears to be still running.Jul 21 04:33
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oiaohmThat is when cgrouping  is great or everytime that happens you would have a process leak.Jul 21 04:34
oiaohmcubexyz: systemd explained why when I was under normal sysvinit at times restart kdm you would have it go vt7 then vt8 then vt9.......Jul 21 04:35
cubexyzdid you check /var/log/kdm.log ?Jul 21 04:58
cubexyzI think I saw a few undefined symbol errorsJul 21 04:59
cubexyzmight even be why the text console messes upJul 21 05:02
cubexyzI never bothered to look into it, but maybe tonight I can figure it outJul 21 05:03
cubexyzoh I had this other issue for a long time...Jul 21 05:09
cubexyzcan't use page up/page down keys when using vi with sshJul 21 05:10
cubexyzalso I can't recall any X errors when using the vesa driver on openbsdJul 21 05:11
cubexyzprobably the most stable X system I've ever runJul 21 05:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 Client Brings Over 50 BugfixesJul 21 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/swUztnqj5r (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCC 5 Is One Week Away From Landing In UbuntuJul 21 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Profile of an Everyday FOSS DeveloperJul 21 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch OTA-6 Update to Arrive inJul 21 11:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Approximately 6 Weeks http://t.co/Rq5xxoxxdSJul 21 11:20
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r_schestowitz> Roy,Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz>Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz> on Sunday afternoon I noticed one or two ads "ControlRisks" on an innocent web page ( www.phonostar.de - as far as I remember). I then cleared all cookies in my Firefox (using on OpenSuse Tumbleweed).Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz>Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz> I cannot remember anymore, whether it was really Control Risks Group (CRG), but I think, it was.Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz>Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz> Any idea, if I should enter into "panic mode", or better calm down, because they are buying such ads now and then ???Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz>Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz> I am writing this now on a different, quasi air-gapped computer, and using Tails, which I trust.Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz>Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitz>Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitzControl Risks Group (CRG) has no reason to openly advertise. They'd get clients through other routes, and not even disclsoure who they work for. Their name, Control Risks, is so generic, that they are very hard to google.Jul 21 11:50
r_schestowitzI do often wonder how I can find out who works for them and their professional background. Even LinkedIn wouldn't reveal "Employer" such as GCHQ, so you must go by project names etc. Like the ICWatch thing, now hosted on Wikileaks (following death threats)...Jul 21 11:50
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368110Jul 21 11:51
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r_schestowitz"Where is the private joke ?"Jul 21 11:51
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Medo4Gaza/status/623443944865710084Jul 21 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 of the best soccer (most call it football)Jul 21 12:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android M to get version number 5.2, not 6.0,Jul 21 12:12
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oiaohmcubexyz: found my kdm issue its annoying starting at the wrong point to Nvidia driver interface registration.   Turns out the log files of X11 and KDM say nothing useful.  Jul 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony starts software beta for a refreshed takeJul 21 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Android Tablets from SamsungJul 21 12:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Latest Android Humble Bundle features NeoGeo'sJul 21 12:24
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ZeldaWiiUNews/status/623454033659994112Jul 21 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ZeldaWiiUNews: <3 https://t.co/7qlnq8RAqXJul 21 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: If #Nintendo ever makes an #Android smartphone, it should look like this http://t.co/Xiiay36Tuk #linuxJul 21 12:26
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6368303Jul 21 12:47
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367713Jul 21 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "800 year anniversary of Magna Carta last month - I wonder how I missed all the celebrations?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6367398 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_CartaJul 21 12:47
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__martin__http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/21/us-toshiba-accounting-stocks-idUSKCN0PV0B620150721Jul 21 12:59
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__martin__https://medium.com/expost-magazine/i-worked-at-hackingteam-my-emails-were-leaked-to-wikileaks-and-i-m-ok-with-that-f8f28b0584feJul 21 14:49
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msb__Great speech:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLMJul 21 15:34
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DisquietedMuse/status/623475314514112512Jul 21 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DisquietedMuse: Totally agree @schestowitz but isn't the secret sauce layered security & apps within? Push for institutions to widely revert to #Linux ???Jul 21 17:13
r_schestowitzchoosing Windows is choosing something which is known, by intention, to be insecure. GNU/Linux not perfect, but aspiring to be secureJul 21 17:14
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369728Jul 21 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #games "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feeling-angry-hatred-looks-like-it-will-come-to-linux.5690 #gnu #linuxJul 21 17:19
r_schestowitz"Can i shoot politicians like G.Bush (Junior and Senior) in this game? if not - i am not gonna buy it. :-p"Jul 21 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Feeling Angry? Hatred Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/n6suv ]Jul 21 17:19
r_schestowitz"Going to skip this one, methinks."Jul 21 17:19
r_schestowitzCan only shoot the powerless... and NoriegaJul 21 17:20
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369783Jul 21 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Norway updates list of IT procurement templates https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/144647 don't put brand names there, bar proprietary malwareJul 21 17:20
r_schestowitz"Jul 21 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Norway updates list of IT procurement templates | JoinupJul 21 17:20
r_schestowitzi don t understand the problem.Jul 21 17:20
r_schestowitzbar proprietary malware ?Jul 21 17:20
r_schestowitz"Jul 21 17:20
r_schestowitzBar them from procuring proprietary software with back doors, i.e. malwareJul 21 17:20
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6369476Jul 21 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 provides the latest and greatest back doors. And folks from #microsoft say it's not even stable and nowhere near ready.Jul 21 17:22
r_schestowitz"Just curious. Why do some people call it “Vista8” or “Vista10”? Is the kernel used in 8 and 10 the same as in Vista, and different from XP and 98, for example?"Jul 21 17:22
r_schestowitzI coined these term to remind people that there's DRM and lots of other issues still insideJul 21 17:22
r_schestowitz*termsJul 21 17:22
XRevan86Windows 10 is no longer like Vista.Jul 21 17:22
XRevan86It's far worse now.Jul 21 17:23
XRevan86Update subscriptionsJul 21 17:23
r_schestowitzYes, it keeps getting worseJul 21 17:23
r_schestowitzthankfully, not many people buy into itJul 21 17:23
r_schestowitzadoption rates of Windows have fallenJul 21 17:23
r_schestowitzthis is why pricing tricks are making it easier to entrap people and get them 'hooked' (lock in) on 'cloud'Jul 21 17:24
XRevan86Christians are always wrong.Jul 21 17:25
XRevan86They think angels live in the cloud.Jul 21 17:25
XRevan86But it's the Devil himself.Jul 21 17:25
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6370603Jul 21 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anonymiss@despora.de: #capitalism #fail #humanrights #humanity #finance #poverty Jul 21 17:26
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r_schestowitz"Shit processed food."Jul 21 17:26
r_schestowitzMerchandising Jul 21 17:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Hatred" Looks Like It Will Come To LinuxJul 21 17:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux game review: OpenTTDJul 21 17:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Should you remove Adobe Flash from Linux?Jul 21 17:49
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xisoDon't think win kernal has changed much since original vista.Jul 21 18:00
xisoJust UI changes - like monkeys throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.Jul 21 18:01
xisoDRM got worse with each reiteration of win version after vista.Jul 21 18:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Satellite Rush Is an Awesome Roguelike ShooterJul 21 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     No Future for Fedora PhonesJul 21 18:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: KDE/Qt/Plasma http://t.co/3k8j5Cag29Jul 21 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Membership Grows as LinuxJul 21 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Dominates IT InfrastructureJul 21 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 MariaDB now http://t.co/SETRtPEIISJul 21 19:30
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r_schestowitz[18:00] <xiso> Don't think win kernal has changed much since original vista.Jul 21 23:21
r_schestowitzit's the same codeJul 21 23:21
r_schestowitzthey just add more crap to itJul 21 23:21
MinceR"add more crap" is fashionable nowJul 21 23:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MariaDB is one of three new recruits to theJul 21 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 ever-growing Linux FoundationJul 21 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ADAS dev board runs Yocto Linux on octa-coreJul 21 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation unboxes another containerJul 21 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Most Violent Game on Steam, Hatred, MightJul 21 23:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ARK: Survival Evolved Now Dominates Steam forJul 21 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Top-Selling List http://t.co/1cDjPVML7uJul 21 23:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My Linux Story  http://t.co/47KEUwbBP7Jul 21 23:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ADAS dev board runs Yocto Linux on octa-coreJul 21 23:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation unboxes another containerJul 22 00:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Xfce 15.7 is out now. DistroJul 22 00:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phoneJul 22 00:08
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android http://t.co/19k9tQo0SFJul 22 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Meizu MX4 Ubuntu edition review - Business InsiderJul 22 00:08
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cubexyzklipper's history is strangeJul 22 00:39
cubexyzit's interpersed with nullsJul 22 00:39
cubexyzalso ctrl-y and ctrl-l'sJul 22 00:41
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-21/470000-vehicles-risk-after-hackers-take-control-crash-jeep-cherokee-sofa-10-miles-awJul 22 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | 470,000 Vehicles At Risk After Hackers "Take Control & Crash" Jeep Cherokee From A Sofa 10 Miles Away | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/n6xq1 ]Jul 22 00:56
cubexyzok, strings klipper-history.txt seems to help a lot Jul 22 00:57
cubexyzno idea why all those control codes are in there Jul 22 00:57
MinceRmaybe klipper keeps some metadata in themJul 22 00:58
cubexyzdoubtless KDE >4.0 is different againJul 22 00:58
MinceRlike "this came from PRIMARY, this came from CLIPBOARD"Jul 22 00:58
cubexyzI think rasterized images can be in there tooJul 22 01:00
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cubexyzdefinitely not straight text thoughJul 22 01:01
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cubexyzI assume it's possible to "dcop klipper something"Jul 22 01:12
cubexyze.g.Jul 22 01:13
cubexyzdcop klipper klipper setClipboardContents 12345Jul 22 01:13
cubexyzthat will add the text 12345 to klipper's historyJul 22 01:14
MinceRat least in kde3 and tdeJul 22 01:15
MinceRkde4 uses dbus insteadJul 22 01:16
MinceRwhich sucksJul 22 01:16
cubexyzyes, a bit tricky to cover every caseJul 22 01:16
cubexyzthere used to be an actually book for KDEJul 22 01:17
cubexyzI think it only covered KDE 2 Jul 22 01:17
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cubexyzdcop klipper klipper getClipboardHistoryMenuJul 22 01:22
cubexyzthere we go, all automaticJul 22 01:23
cubexyzwhy use dbus suck?Jul 22 01:23
cubexyzerJul 22 01:23
cubexyzwhy does dbus suck?Jul 22 01:23
MinceRit's overcomplicated and it's intended to serve for the entire system, not just an X sessionJul 22 01:25
MinceRand yet it's not designed to be restartableJul 22 01:25
MinceRyou're supposed to reboot, like in poettering's favorite OSJul 22 01:25
MinceR(clients won't reconnect to the new dbus instance or something like that)Jul 22 01:26
MinceRalso, sending a message requires specifying an FQDN 3 times, using 2 different formatsJul 22 01:26
MinceRwhich is ridiculousJul 22 01:26
MinceRalso, introspection tends to fail and the application doing it tends to crashJul 22 01:26
cubexyzhmmm, even openbsd seems to use dbus-daemonJul 22 01:26
cubexyzthere seems to be a battle between the old and the new all the timeJul 22 01:30
cubexyzbut at least dcop lives on in trinityJul 22 01:30
cubexyzon vector linux I've kept up with the KDE 3.5.10 stuffJul 22 01:36
cubexyzon openbsd I'm using a combination of icewm and components of xfceJul 22 01:36
cubexyzif I run a KDE 3.5.10 application on openbsd then dcop kicks inJul 22 01:38
cubexyzI think openbsd still uses KDE 3.5.10 actuallyJul 22 01:38
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amarsh04still running KDE 3.5.9/10 on this machine, had to recompile one library for it to run with newer kernelsJul 22 01:56
cubexyzwhich library?Jul 22 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Review : Second Ubuntu PhoneJul 22 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 With Improved hardware http://t.co/6elFlQfHmDJul 22 02:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source experts sound off on Canonical's IPJul 22 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 policy reaching GPL complianceJul 22 02:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Make 0.9 Brings Initial Support for theJul 22 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Arduino IDE, Visual Studio Code FixesJul 22 02:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Evince 3.18 Document Viewer Will BringJul 22 02:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kodi 15.0 – Isengard – One Release to Rule ThemJul 22 02:18
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amarsh04cubexyz, let me checkJul 22 02:19
amarsh04cubexyz, kdelibs4c2aJul 22 02:20
cubexyzamarsh04, ok thanks, that's interesting infoJul 22 02:20
oiaohmThere was also the dirty trick to force Linux kernel into old version emulation mode.Jul 22 02:21
oiaohmRebuilding the 1 library for those staying back that far was the best.Jul 22 02:21
oiaohmFound the cause of my once in a blue moon dhcpd drop outs on one system.   dhcpcd was installed instead of dhcpcd5Jul 22 02:26
msb__cubexyz: Did you get the complete p system running with konsole/mc in any of your systems?Jul 22 02:33
cubexyzmsb__, haven't tried it as yetJul 22 02:34
cubexyzbut it should be possibleJul 22 02:34
cubexyzthere's .viminfo Jul 22 02:42
cubexyzI'll have to adjust the scriptJul 22 02:42
msb__cubexyz: I think I was using a program called xselection previously.Jul 22 02:42
amarsh04running Debian, which dropped support for KDE 3.5.x earlier than some other distributionsJul 22 02:43
cubexyzummmJul 22 02:44
cubexyzalso I don't have qdbusJul 22 02:44
cubexyzbut I think I can adjust it for dcopJul 22 02:44
msb__you can get qdbus if you need it, right?Jul 22 02:45
oiaohmmsb__: using trinity yes qdbus is not part of qt3Jul 22 02:48
cubexyzok, I think I've managed to adjust itJul 22 02:50
cubexyzhow do I use it?Jul 22 02:50
msb__cubexyz: I found the old p system!  p used to be a function in .bashrc -- http://cosmicpenguin.com/p.old.zipJul 22 03:05
msb__That old one uses xselectionJul 22 03:05
msb__ok, you have two konsoles in two different directories.  run mc in each one.Jul 22 03:06
msb__You have p in your path, along with the scripts that it calls.Jul 22 03:07
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msb__In the first directory, you have a file.  Put the mc cursor on that file.  Type   p <alt-enter>Jul 22 03:09
cubexyzok I see $ p xsJul 22 03:11
msb__go to the konsole in the second directory.  Actually it does not have to have mc in it.   type    cp  <middle-mouse-button> .       That will copy the file into the second directory.Jul 22 03:11
msb__Yikes, don't be root!Jul 22 03:12
msb__You are experimenting!Jul 22 03:12
cubexyzI'm notJul 22 03:12
cubexyzroot prompt is #Jul 22 03:13
msb__ohJul 22 03:13
msb__So it is.  My non-root prompt is all fancy, so I don't know what it is!Jul 22 03:14
cubexyzhold on a secJul 22 03:15
cubexyzthere's a script called xsel plus there's the command xselJul 22 03:15
msb__In the new system?Jul 22 03:15
cubexyzyesJul 22 03:16
msb__you have the xsel script in your path, right.  Doesn't giving the command xsel just call that?Jul 22 03:18
msb__If not, where and what is the command xsel?Jul 22 03:18
cubexyzxsel is /usr/local/bin/xselJul 22 03:18
cubexyzbut it's also the script name.. I think the first one gets priorityJul 22 03:19
cubexyzxsel is the command to manipulate X selectionJul 22 03:19
msb__I don't have /usr/local/bin/xselJul 22 03:19
cubexyzI may have compiled itJul 22 03:20
cubexyzwait, openbsd has it tooJul 22 03:20
cubexyzso I don't think I didJul 22 03:20
cubexyzpart of XJul 22 03:20
cubexyzmay not be in every distroJul 22 03:21
msb__I been robbed!  I coulda been a billionaire!Jul 22 03:21
cubexyzok, I'll just rename the xsel scriptJul 22 03:21
msb__right, and the calls to itJul 22 03:21
cubexyzI think p is the only script that calls xsel (which I will now call xsel1)Jul 22 03:23
cubexyzoh wait, xs also calls itJul 22 03:24
cubexyzok I think it workedJul 22 03:25
cubexyzI've adapted your pfile stuff to dcopJul 22 03:25
msb__Yay!Jul 22 03:25
cubexyzalso vim :)Jul 22 03:25
cubexyzI can't remember ever using xsel Jul 22 03:28
msb__That's how I work.  20 virtual desktops, purpose oriented.   1-5 konsoles in each one, with mc in them, aimed at the relevant directories for that purpose.   p system -- textmode drag-n-drop -- for copying, moving, comparing files between directories.Jul 22 03:29
msb__Does vim do file management?Jul 22 03:30
cubexyzthere's vifmJul 22 03:30
cubexyzit's actually similar to mcJul 22 03:31
msb__For older systems, the stuff in   p.old.zip should work.  Doesn't use klipper (or qdbus) at all.   The p function should be a script.Jul 22 03:34
cubexyznow theres a third version :)Jul 22 03:35
msb__Great!Jul 22 03:35
msb__Would you please zip up all the scripts and send it to me?Jul 22 03:35
cubexyzzip doesn't seem very unixy to me but ok :)Jul 22 03:36
cubexyzwe can debate the niceties laterJul 22 03:38
cubexyzI didn't delete any lines, just commented them outJul 22 03:39
cubexyzso edbuf was changed to ~/.viminfoJul 22 03:40
msb__Don't mix any of the files from the three versions on the same system.  It could cause a chronosynclastic infundibulum.Jul 22 03:40
cubexyzsince I use vim in mcJul 22 03:40
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/pfiles-for-kde3.zipJul 22 03:41
cubexyzalso xsel should be renamed I thinkJul 22 03:42
cubexyzwhich I didJul 22 03:42
msb__Thanks!Jul 22 03:43
msb__That's almost as dangerous as a polyphase quasitron!Jul 22 03:44
cubexyzit's a pity I can't talk to most of my friends about this stuffJul 22 03:45
cubexyzit's blah blah powershellJul 22 03:46
oiaohmI just got 500 megs of space back sometimes debian updating is stupid.  Updated wesnorth installed all new campainfiles and left all the version before ones that it was never going to use installed.Jul 22 03:46
msb__It's pretty simple.  At least it was before systemd, pulseaudio, and kde4Jul 22 03:46
oiaohmmsb__: I would not systemd has been all bad.   Something are better.Jul 22 03:47
cubexyzI'm probably the biggest traditionalist around here :)Jul 22 03:47
oiaohmkde4 I have got use to.Jul 22 03:48
oiaohmWindows deploying applications in a large network is hell.Jul 22 03:48
oiaohmWindows you have guess the process as well.Jul 22 03:48
msb__I was a pro at PCDOS.  XTREE was my favorite tool.  I had about 80 categorized utilities.  All on a hardshell floppy I'd carry around to jobs.Jul 22 03:49
msb__I still have to stop myself from calling shell script "batch files".Jul 22 03:49
msb__scriptsJul 22 03:50
cubexyzsee, that's the evil Microsoft influence right there :)Jul 22 03:50
oiaohmHere is something super fun I had recently with Windows.Jul 22 03:50
oiaohmHp laptop dead harddrive.Jul 22 03:50
oiaohmGuess what no Windows drivers on the HP site and just to be worse generic retail disc does not install.   So pay HP dollars to send you a new install set.Jul 22 03:51
cubexyzmsb__, didn't you use computers before microsoft existed?Jul 22 03:51
cubexyzyou can remember the golden age Jul 22 03:51
oiaohmcubexyz: I remember the microbeesJul 22 03:51
cubexyzDEC used to be mightyJul 22 03:52
cubexyznow they are goneJul 22 03:52
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBee   << cubexyzJul 22 03:52
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msb__cubexyz: LINC, PDP-8, in high school, something from a cash-register company with a drum but no RAM.Jul 22 03:53
cubexyzoiaohm, yes there's a kit too for that Jul 22 03:53
cubexyzbut the snobs want mini-computersJul 22 03:55
cubexyzeven though they're power hungryJul 22 03:55
msb__Had a beautiful front panel for an S100 computer, but never built it.Jul 22 03:55
msb__My first functional home computer was an IBM-PC 8088.Jul 22 03:56
msb__Filled out the RAM, put a 720 track floppy on it, and eventually a 25MB hard drive.Jul 22 03:57
cubexyzwhen did you get into Linux?Jul 22 03:58
oiaohmme 1994-1995Jul 22 03:59
oiaohmBSD before that.Jul 22 03:59
oiaohmAnd Unix before that.Jul 22 03:59
msb__Unix in the 90s sometime.  Had an account on a UCSF Unix computer, and talked to it with a terminal emulator I wrote in BASIC  on the IBMPC.Jul 22 04:00
cubexyza pity you didn't work on PDP-11sJul 22 04:01
msb__Don't remember what kind of Unix.  But I would log out and it would keep on charging me!Jul 22 04:01
cubexyzoiaohm, did you ever work on Vax?Jul 22 04:01
oiaohmAustralia where I was no such thing.Jul 22 04:02
oiaohmDec alpha yes.Jul 22 04:02
msb__I programmed on PDP-6/10.Jul 22 04:02
cubexyzPDP-6... wow I can't even remember those at allJul 22 04:02
cubexyzprecessor to PDP-10?Jul 22 04:03
msb__It ran the whole university.  Had a live-in engineer.Jul 22 04:03
msb__yepJul 22 04:03
cubexyzpredecessorJul 22 04:03
cubexyzI worked on PDP-10 for a whileJul 22 04:03
oiaohmcubexyz: where I was went from PDP-11 to Aphas completely skipped VaxJul 22 04:04
msb__two bits of the accumulator was a pc board about 2 foot by 2 foot.Jul 22 04:04
cubexyzvector display I think?Jul 22 04:04
msb__Can't remember the (or any) display.Jul 22 04:05
msb__Had 6 teletypes.Jul 22 04:05
oiaohmThe alpha workstations I missed.Jul 22 04:06
oiaohmIt was horible going back to a PC from them.Jul 22 04:06
oiaohm32 inch screens 24 bit color and a fairly high res screen 1992Jul 22 04:07
cubexyzoiaohm, did you ever run windows on the Dec Alphas?Jul 22 04:07
oiaohmNo they were all the au typesJul 22 04:07
oiaohmSo NT would not install even if you wanted to.Jul 22 04:07
msb__I programmed a flying-spot scanner to input nanosecond oscilloscope polaroids into the PDP-6.  It ran on a PDP-8, using an oscilloscope and photomultiplier tube.  Programmed in assembly on the PDP8 and Fortran on the PDP-6.Jul 22 04:08
cubexyzjust as wellJul 22 04:08
oiaohmI did see NT on straight aJul 22 04:08
oiaohmMind you it was the most stable I ever saw windows run.Jul 22 04:08
cubexyzI guess Alpha is completely dead nowJul 22 04:09
cubexyzmsb__, from what I understand PDP-6 was very rareJul 22 04:10
cubexyzyou're lucky you got a chance to work on oneJul 22 04:10
msb__36-bit words!Jul 22 04:12
oiaohmcubexyz: Alpha has not even been revived as a fpga.Jul 22 04:14
oiaohmcubexyz: so Alpha as a design is truly dead.Jul 22 04:16
cubexyzcompaq killed alphaJul 22 04:16
cubexyzwhich was bizarre... paved the way for intel to just about take overJul 22 04:17
msb__Only Fortran on the pdp6.  Later SunOS on Sparcs and some kind of 386 Unix box at Stanford.Jul 22 04:18
cubexyzthere was Sun 386Jul 22 04:18
msb__did C on those and on my PC.Jul 22 04:18
msb__yup, that was itJul 22 04:19
cubexyzso instead of having Suns and Sparcs and Alphas we have wintel and vista and win8Jul 22 04:20
oiaohmSparc design is still half alive.Jul 22 04:21
cubexyzwell not us as suchJul 22 04:21
cubexyzwe could be running AMD/LinuxJul 22 04:21
msb__exactly what I runJul 22 04:21
msb__cheap and powerfulJul 22 04:22
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oiaohmopensparc what is sparc in fpga exists.Jul 22 04:22
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msb__"yocto" means 10^-24.  I doubt that it's _that_ tiny.Jul 22 04:25
cubexyzYocto as in the "Yocto Project"Jul 22 04:26
cubexyzLinux for embedded systemsJul 22 04:26
msb__These metric prefixes are starting to sound Yiddish.Jul 22 04:27
oiaohmmsb__: some of those metric prefixes almost make me thing someone wrote them when they were off their faceJul 22 04:28
cubexyzderived from Greek I thinkJul 22 04:29
msb__off their face?  Does that mean on their ass?Jul 22 04:29
oiaohmcubexyz: how it is deried is the issue.Jul 22 04:30
msb__"He's a real yocto goniff!"  That's got to mean something insulting in Yiddish.  Almost everything in Yiddish is an insult, at least the way my relatives spoke it.Jul 22 04:30
oiaohmZeta how will we derived from this to get ISO word.  yep Zetta   Almost exactly the same sound.Jul 22 04:31
cubexyzall 18th and 19th century gentlemen learned GreekJul 22 04:31
cubexyzprobably not now Jul 22 04:31
oiaohmcubexyz: basically ISO metric prefixs are basically people who cannot spell greek to english correctly intentionally.Jul 22 04:32
msb__In San Francisco... oh never mind.Jul 22 04:32
cubexyzblame Jan Hendrik van Swinden thenJul 22 04:33
cubexyzwell, maybe not for ZetaJul 22 04:34
cubexyzoh was it Latin for subdivisions?Jul 22 04:36
cubexyzok, 19th century gentlemen had to learn Latin tooJul 22 04:36
oiaohmcubexyz: I forgot ISO metric prefixes are derivied at random almost from different langauges.Jul 22 04:38
cubexyzmetro cattolico :)Jul 22 04:38
oiaohmZetta is Zeta from greekJul 22 04:38
oiaohmSo horible mess.Jul 22 04:38
cubexyzah it's a mix thenJul 22 04:39
cubexyzLatin, Greek, Spanish and Dano-NorwegianJul 22 04:39
msb__Yenta!  That's what I was thinking of.  A gossip.Jul 22 04:39
oiaohmThen you have like zebibyteJul 22 04:40
msb__Well, better than a shiksa or a schvartze.Jul 22 04:40
cubexyzoiaohm, zetta is from the Latin 'eight'Jul 22 04:40
cubexyzoops waitJul 22 04:40
cubexyzzetta is latin 'seven'Jul 22 04:41
cubexyzit's not consistentJul 22 04:41
oiaohmI knew there was a story.Jul 22 04:42
oiaohmwith zetta being a screw up.Jul 22 04:42
oiaohmNow I remember it is greek to latin where it gets screwed up.Jul 22 04:42
cubexyzand we have september as the 9th month, so also oddJul 22 04:42
oiaohmzeta is 6 letter in greek alphabet but someone romans turned that into 7.Jul 22 04:43
oiaohmso needing the word zettaJul 22 04:43
oiaohmNow greek roman trade could get confusing because of this.Jul 22 04:44
oiaohmYes both in short form are written zJul 22 04:44
cubexyzpetabyte is a bit dubious as wellJul 22 04:47
cubexyzpeta is Greek for fiveJul 22 04:47
cubexyz(10^3)^5Jul 22 04:47
cubexyzok, 1000 to the 5th powerJul 22 04:49
cubexyzsounds better :)Jul 22 04:49
oiaohmThis is the point the more you try to make sense of ISO numbering the more insane it gets.Jul 22 04:49
oiaohmNo consistancy in method.Jul 22 04:49
msb__XRevan86 turned me on to this great band:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leBU07KRA1cJul 22 05:04
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oiaohmLooks like wayland support is going to land in Libreoffice as of 5.0Jul 22 05:15
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cubexyzxsel1 can be used to put stuff on klipperJul 22 06:37
cubexyzalt-enter must be a mc thingJul 22 06:38
oiaohmhttp://news.slashdot.org/story/15/07/21/1836201/california-legislation-may-allow-first-responders-to-take-out-dronesJul 22 06:39
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oiaohmThis is a what the about usa regulation.Jul 22 06:39
oiaohmhttp://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/10/aussie-authorities-slam-bushfire-drone-pilots/Jul 22 06:40
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oiaohmAustralian regulation a bushfire is automatically restricted airspace.Jul 22 06:40
oiaohmAnything in restricted airspace without permission can be exterminated by any choosen means.Jul 22 06:41
oiaohmIf it does not contain a living human.Jul 22 06:41
oiaohmYes the rule applies to weather balloons, drones and what ever else you can think up.Jul 22 06:42
cubexyzoiaohm, the Hessling Editor is like IBM XEDITJul 22 06:48
cubexyzfrom australia Jul 22 06:48
oiaohmcubexyz: its short name is THEJul 22 06:51
oiaohmThe worse recusrive name ever.  "The Hessling Editor"=THEJul 22 06:52
cubexyzdon't think it's been updated in quite a whileJul 22 06:52
oiaohmYes I hated using it cubexyzJul 22 06:52
oiaohm2006 was last update cubexyzJul 22 06:53
cubexyzis there a tarball for that?Jul 22 06:54
oiaohmcubexyz: yes on sourceforge.Jul 22 06:54
cubexyzlolJul 22 06:54
oiaohmhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hessling-editor/files/hessling-editor/Jul 22 06:55
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oiaohmOk so there are a few updated versions.Jul 22 06:55
cubexyzoiaohm, I have to switch to russian repo for my "old" openbsd box :)Jul 22 06:55
oiaohmJust no releases since 2006Jul 22 06:55
oiaohmBut there was a testing version last year.Jul 22 06:56
cubexyzwhat did you not like about it?Jul 22 06:56
oiaohmcubexyz: my memory mixed with its commands.Jul 22 06:56
oiaohmRemember GUI and me get along.Jul 22 06:56
oiaohmHeavy command line remembering stacks of options don't get along.Jul 22 06:57
oiaohmcubexyz: my tastes are not that complex.Jul 22 06:58
cubexyzwell generally text based programs are simpler than GUI programsJul 22 07:02
cubexyzncurses programs could have menusJul 22 07:02
oiaohmlike nano and mcedit and I don't mind them.Jul 22 07:02
cubexyzoiaohm, and the name 'the' for a program is just badJul 22 07:04
oiaohmYes I know text based programs can be made simple but why in heck when modern day text terminals support rewriting where ever you like on the screen do we have to be stuck to interfaces like vim..Jul 22 07:04
cubexyzso I search the repos for the word 'the'? :-PJul 22 07:04
oiaohmcubexyz: as I said its the worse one from the age of recusive names.Jul 22 07:04
oiaohmLike GNU is fairly bad but  "The Hessling Editor"=THE just takes the cake.Jul 22 07:05
oiaohmYes the author of it refers to it as the and the command to start it is theJul 22 07:05
oiaohmcubexyz: guess how much the the editor is when you by mistake paste into a terminal.Jul 22 07:06
cubexyzthere's japanese vim too :)Jul 22 07:06
cubexyzoiaohm, do you run any BSD boxes?Jul 22 07:07
oiaohmNot at the moment.Jul 22 07:07
oiaohmWas running one about a year and a half ago.Jul 22 07:08
oiaohmIf I am running bsd or not is more if anyone asks.Jul 22 07:08
msb__cubexyz: Yes, alt-enter is specific to mc AFAIKJul 22 07:10
cubexyzthe russian repo site is pretty awesomeJul 22 07:13
oiaohmI remembered why I hated alt-enter in mcJul 22 07:13
oiaohmalt-enter happens to be what a lot of virtual machines have aligned to go full screen.Jul 22 07:13
oiaohmbut at least mc you can reconfigure it.Jul 22 07:14
cubexyzpkg_mgr is pretty nice tooJul 22 07:17
oiaohmBSD developers do lots of thing right.Jul 22 07:18
oiaohmProblem is just they don't get long term hardware support mostly due to the fact the license allows closed source.Jul 22 07:19
oiaohmBSD idea of quality merged with Linux licensing mode would have been the best OS ever.Jul 22 07:20
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schestowitz> https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/Jul 22 09:38
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schestowitz> crash.Jul 22 09:38
schestowitzHis was a Mercedes with computer managing a lot of the car. He was writing an expose about John Brennan at the time, IIRC, and he had contacted Wikileaks' lawyers as he feared they were hunting him down.Jul 22 09:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: As he died, Hastings rode a Mercedes with computer managing a lot of the car. He was writing an expose about John Brennan at the time. #ciaJul 22 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n72acJul 22 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME's GTK+ 3.18 to Bring Multiple Mir, Wayland, and X11 Improvements - SoftpediaJul 22 10:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The BackBox Team is pleased to announce theJul 22 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 updated release of BackBox Linux, the versionJul 22 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 4.3!" http://t.co/hUAqrjnJDf (www.backbox.org)Jul 22 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Setting Up Shop With KDE’s PlasmaJul 22 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/064yAJNFdi (fossforce.com)Jul 22 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.backbox.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 released! | BackBox LinuxJul 22 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Setting Up Shop With KDE's Plasma | FOSS ForceJul 22 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu reviewJul 22 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QIOg660xBW (www.v3.co.uk)Jul 22 11:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review - reviews for UK IT professionals - V3.co.ukJul 22 11:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most AdvancedJul 22 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Version Available http://t.co/W1tFiGZKV7Jul 22 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 22 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most Advanced Version Available - SoftpediaJul 22 11:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Shashlik - a Tasty New Android SimulatorJul 22 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2YMJyyIyGW (www.linuxjournal.com)Jul 22 11:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Shashlik - a Tasty New Android Simulator | Linux JournalJul 22 11:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu reviewJul 22 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP ProBook 455 Ubuntu review | Tux MachinesJul 22 11:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful PenetrationJul 22 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTSJul 22 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QuKnX1LVqN (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BackBox Linux 4.3 Is a Powerful Penetration Testing Based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux MachinesJul 22 11:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Setting Up Shop With KDE’s PlasmaJul 22 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uxC0VNpLTt (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS Is Now the Most AdvancedJul 22 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Version Available http://t.co/h92CvlMHWAJul 22 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Shashlik - a Tasty New Android SimulatorJul 22 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/BWNJO77WAUJul 22 13:07
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oiaohmhttp://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Glibc-2.22-ARM-NaCl   This is getting interesting.Jul 22 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDAB contributions to Qt 5.5Jul 22 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 InsideJul 22 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 the OS http://t.co/IcwVasGQonJul 22 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     I used this crazy alternative 'Ubuntu' phoneJul 22 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 for a month and ended up liking it more thanJul 22 13:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Android http://t.co/TGVjdPtzVCJul 22 13:43
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oiaohmNow if ubuntu phone takes off it will make a joke out of Windows phone in so many ways its not funny.Jul 22 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? Jul 22 14:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 1.0.2 released http://t.co/ZC7rwx9b1oJul 22 14:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Robolinux 8.1 Cinnamon Runs Windows 10 InsideJul 22 14:07
TweetTuxMachines                 the OS http://t.co/ql6S1vp9EKJul 22 14:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE?Jul 22 14:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7zSQqHtsfi (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 14:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What do you think of Mageia 5 KDE? | Tux MachinesJul 22 14:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and MoreJul 22 14:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Improvements http://t.co/JcQWA9IyihJul 22 14:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 14:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team overJul 22 14:09
TweetTuxMachines                 open-source code discoveryJul 22 14:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/C4Fva2C4aY (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 14:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Researcher lashes out at Hacking Team over open-source code discovery | Tux MachinesJul 22 14:09
oiaohmhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-matthew-garrett-says-ubuntu-container-images-are-breaking-copyright-probably-487418.shtmlJul 22 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CoreOS' Matthew Garrett Says Ubuntu Container Images Are Breaking Copyright, Probably - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/n73zc ]Jul 22 14:10
oiaohminteresting.Jul 22 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung says data-eating TRIM bug is a LinuxJul 22 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 kernel problem http://t.co/C7zBTdCJUcJul 22 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (techreport.com)Jul 22 14:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic IIJul 22 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on Mac, Linux with New FeaturesJul 22 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JrwV596mjGJul 22 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.escapistmagazine.com)Jul 22 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.escapistmagazine.com | Star Wars KOTOR II Sith Lords Steam Update Mac Linux | The EscapistJul 22 14:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/9sTOX3I0kdJul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and MoreJul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Improvements http://t.co/iiQojabFI9Jul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 22 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | elementary OS Freya Gets Greeter and More Desktop Improvements - SoftpediaJul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7682Jul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The New Solus: Putting the Pieces TogetherJul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Again The New Solus http://t.co/KZiEaRBPhMJul 22 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | The New Solus: Putting the Pieces Together Again | Reviews | LinuxInsiderJul 22 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxinsider.com)Jul 22 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next ForJul 22 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Containers http://t.co/AmiFsqTI8EJul 22 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Jul 22 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Linux.comJul 22 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported UbuntuJul 22 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes http://t.co/PMPwSxKn6AJul 22 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 22 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaJul 22 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The only remaining barrier to entry for LinuxJul 22 18:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aMG5Ok77dw (www.techrepublic.com)Jul 22 18:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The only remaining barrier to entry for Linux - TechRepublicJul 22 18:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/Ttqe8RfHzkJul 22 18:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next ForJul 22 18:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Containers http://t.co/cTR279DgkxJul 22 18:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker VP Marianna Tessel: What’s Next For Containers | Tux MachinesJul 22 18:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New MySQL Version Lands in All Supported UbuntuJul 22 18:30
TweetTuxMachines                 OSes http://t.co/TFB33LcmiWJul 22 18:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The only remaining barrier to entry for LinuxJul 22 18:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe EagleJul 22 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fK1TjdVReB (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 18:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe EagleJul 22 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 SoCs http://t.co/SV8Y4TTTR5 (linuxgizmos.com)Jul 22 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mini-ITX board runs Linux on AMD Steppe Eagle SoCs ·  LinuxGizmos.comJul 22 18:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steam for Linux Stable Client Update with LotsJul 22 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 of Fixes http://t.co/rZgmSgjiw1Jul 22 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Stable Client Update with Lots of Fixes - SoftpediaJul 22 19:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Valve and HTC's Vive stand at the precipice ofJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines                 VR's future, but they may have a long waitJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/D10GWXIE5R (www.polygon.com)Jul 22 19:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.polygon.com | Valve and HTC's Vive stand at the precipice of VR's future, but they may have a long wait | PolygonJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic IIJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Arrives on Linux with Massive UpdateJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RuogaSAI7n (news.softpedia.com)Jul 22 19:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II Arrives on Linux with Massive Update - SoftpediaJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Breach & Clear: Deadline Tactical ActionJul 22 19:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Strategy Lands on LinuxJul 22 19:10
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MinceR163414 < msb__> Great speech:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGnBCDfCLMJul 22 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 5 Minute Speech that Got Judge Napolitano Fired from Fox News - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/n6rtm ]Jul 22 19:13
MinceRindeedJul 22 19:13
MinceRi miss the part saying "how can a people be free if they don't want to be free?", thoughJul 22 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Breach & Clear: Deadline Tactical ActionJul 22 19:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Strategy Lands on LinuxJul 22 19:19
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/3sjsaUpbuN (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 22 19:19
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msb__MinceR: The only reason people don't want to be free is if they have been programmed (brainwashed) by the media/govt not to want freedom.  Or if they have been programmed to think that they already are free when they're not.Jul 22 19:22
MinceRi suspect they might have an instinctual tendency for it tooJul 22 19:23
msb__I don't think so, because the govt/media does a huge amount of broadcasting lies to them to make them think they are free.Jul 22 19:24
msb__When Napolitano told the people they are not free, the media immediately fired him.Jul 22 19:25
MinceRseemed like fox noise got pissed he dared say that their favorite party was no different or betterJul 22 19:26
MinceRand just as complicit in the state of mattersJul 22 19:26
msb__I don't remember him even mentioning the Repugs.Jul 22 19:27
MinceRhe mentioned two partiesJul 22 19:27
msb__The Dems are a little better, giving people more money to survive on, etc.Jul 22 19:27
msb__But in foreign affairs, wars, etc.  both are equally evil.Jul 22 19:28
msb__The brainwashing by media isn't only in the US and England.  You must have it in Hungary or people would kick out Orban.Jul 22 19:29
MinceRthe dems are sometimes willing to compromise on issues that are not particularly important to the sponsors of both partiesJul 22 19:30
MinceRafaictJul 22 19:30
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msb__MinceR: It's very hard to realize how much we are lied to unless we read news sources like Global Research, Op-Ed News, Truth-Out, New Eastern Outlook, Russia Today, TeleSUR, Free Critical ThinkingJul 22 19:38
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MinceRironic how you list well known sources of propaganda thereJul 22 19:38
msb__As far as I know they are all accurate.Jul 22 19:39
MinceRyeah, as far as you knowJul 22 19:39
msb__I do my best to find out, by comparing them with other sources.Jul 22 19:39
MinceRuh huhJul 22 19:40
msb__If you think they are lying, please give some examples.Jul 22 19:40
MinceRRT is an outlet with the primary function of spouting putler's propagandaJul 22 19:41
msb__What has RT said that is untrue?Jul 22 19:41
MinceRpretty much everything they said about ukraine, for exampleJul 22 19:42
msb__What exactly?Jul 22 19:42
msb__MinceR: Here's the best article I've seen on Ukraine (but there have been many others from other new sites saying the same thing).  Note this is not from RT.   Jul 22 19:47
msb__MinceR: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554Jul 22 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]Jul 22 19:47
MinceRyeah, the title is already bullshitJul 22 19:47
MinceRbut i can see you love fascism as long as it's russians doing itJul 22 19:47
MinceRwhy don't you move to russia if you love it so much?Jul 22 19:47
MinceRyou could even enlist and help them subjugate ukraine, estonia, latvia and lithuaniaJul 22 19:48
msb__MinceR: What are you talking about?  This article is about what the US did, not Russia.Jul 22 19:48
MinceR(or you could just move to hungary and wait until orban arranges an anschluss)Jul 22 19:48
msb__MinceR: What are you talking about?  This article is about what the US did, not Russia.Jul 22 19:48
MinceRi'm talking about what your idol is doing and which these garbage outlets are supporting with their propagandaJul 22 19:48
MinceRi'm talking about how a few nazis in the ukrainian government make that government nazi, but putler adding a nationalist (and christian fundamentalist) element to the "socialism" of the USSR doesn't make him a naziJul 22 19:49
msb__Putin's name doesn't appear anywhere in that article!Jul 22 19:50
MinceRbut if you love fascism adorned with a red star so much, russia and north korea are waiting for you.Jul 22 19:50
MinceRyou probably wouldn't be welcome in hungary though, as putin's local buddies have arranged a xenophobic circus here.Jul 22 19:52
msb__You said RT was lying about Ukraine.  I disproved you.Jul 22 19:52
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msb__MinceR: It was Boris Yeltsin, with total US collaboration, that wrecked the Russian economy, sold off all its assets for 1/10 of their value, and essentially instituted fascism.Jul 22 19:58
MinceRexcept yeltsin wasn't even in power until your beloved marxist ideals wrecked the russian economyJul 22 19:58
MinceRand made the empire collapseJul 22 19:59
msb__MinceR: read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, chapter 11Jul 22 19:59
MinceRthat was when the people you love so much finally hauled their asses out of hungaryJul 22 19:59
MinceRbut i'm sure it's easy to cheerlead for a fascist dictatorship from the other side of the planetJul 22 19:59
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MinceRi bet you would have loved hitler too if he didn't stick "national" in front of "socialism"Jul 22 20:00
msb__Instead of personal attacks, tell me what you don't like about marxist ideals.Jul 22 20:00
XRevan86Oh hey, I'm on the right side of the planet.Jul 22 20:00
msb__XRevan86: Hi!Jul 22 20:01
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XRevan86msb__: hiJul 22 20:01
MinceRfor one, i don't like how that idiot considered it plausible that a dictatorship would just give up its power for the sake of a stateless societyJul 22 20:01
MinceRthat's about as absurd an expectation as they come.Jul 22 20:01
XRevan86MinceR: Who are you talking about?Jul 22 20:01
MinceRXRevan86: marxJul 22 20:02
XRevan86MinceR: He said that?Jul 22 20:02
XRevan86When did he?Jul 22 20:02
XRevan86If you mean "dictatorship of the proletariat" then it's totally equal to "dictatorship of the user" in GPL :).Jul 22 20:03
XRevan86At least that analogy is totally legit.Jul 22 20:03
XRevan86MinceR: I know people who call GPL a fascist license so maybe you're right.Jul 22 20:04
msb__I thought Marx/Lenin/Engels said there should be a communist party that would control everyone else, because they understood the right way to do things.Jul 22 20:04
msb__And I disagree with that!Jul 22 20:04
msb__I think there should be real democracy at all levels.Jul 22 20:05
msb__Mondragon works fine without people being forced.Jul 22 20:05
MinceRbut you somehow believe that the USSR and putin's empire are "real democracies"Jul 22 20:05
XRevan86msb__: I hope you don't mean the representative democracy.Jul 22 20:05
XRevan86at least not the one I can see in Russia and USJul 22 20:06
msb__XRevan86: No, representative democracy is easily corrupted.Jul 22 20:06
MinceRXRevan86: it's a pity his followers apparently understood it as the usual sense of "dictatorship"Jul 22 20:06
XRevan86MinceR: It's their problems.Jul 22 20:06
MinceRperhaps he should have picked his words more carefully.Jul 22 20:06
msb__MinceR: I don't know how democratic Russia is now.Jul 22 20:07
MinceRmsb__: afaik it's an oligarchy where putin has leverage over all the oligarchs he allowed to remain, so basically all power is in putin's handsJul 22 20:07
msb__But what I have said is that Putin is doing a good job of trying to hold off the enormous fascist attacks of the US.Jul 22 20:07
XRevan86MinceR: One likes to toy with words :).Jul 22 20:07
MinceRwas pussy riot a "fascist attack of the us" too?Jul 22 20:07
MinceRmsb__: would you like to be jailed for insulting putin's favorite cult?Jul 22 20:08
msb__Putin's attack on Pussy Riot was extremely stupid.Jul 22 20:08
XRevan86msb__: How's that? Putin wouldn't want to stop being friends with his bud Kirill the patriarchJul 22 20:09
msb__Current patriarch of R.O.Church?Jul 22 20:10
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XRevan86msb__: yupJul 22 20:11
msb__Currently Putin's worst problem is attacks by the US.  If most Russians are religious, and distancing himself from the Church would cause him to lose power, then his best choice is probably to stay with the church, stay in power, oppose the US, and join up with the other BRICS nations and Venezuela, etc.Jul 22 20:14
MinceRthat's ludicrousJul 22 20:14
msb__MinceR: Why?Jul 22 20:15
MinceRyou excuse anything and everything a dictator does by a handwave and saying that the us attacks them in some wayJul 22 20:16
MinceRfor you, it's a universal excuse for doing anythingJul 22 20:16
MinceRit's like nobody who lives in or near russia mattered except putin and his buddiesJul 22 20:16
MinceRapparently "attacking" a dictatorship is the worst crime you can imagineJul 22 20:17
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MinceRapparently human rights and "real democracy" don't matter if you can sacrifice those just to stick it to the USJul 22 20:18
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msb__MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks.  Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine?Jul 22 20:18
MinceRyou really should look into north korea, they seem to match your ideology better.Jul 22 20:18
msb__MinceR: Please stop your personal attacks.  Jul 22 20:18
MinceRplease stop your putler propaganda.Jul 22 20:19
MinceRplease stop propping up dictatorshipsJul 22 20:19
MinceRplease stop distorting the facts and outright lying for the purpose of propping up dictatorshipsJul 22 20:19
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schestowitz“The feature [Uconnect] allows owners to start the car remotely, flash the headlights using an app and unlock doors.”Jul 22 20:19
schestowitzThat’s what I have been looking for a car, flashing the headlights with an app! Losing brakes is just a minor annoyance.Jul 22 20:19
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msb__MinceR: Do you not think the US attacked Russia by installing a Nazi govt in Ukraine?Jul 22 20:19
MinceRi don't think the us installed a nazi government in ukraine.Jul 22 20:20
schestowitzputitinJul 22 20:20
MinceRi don't think the government of ukraine is anywhere near as close to being nazis as putler is.Jul 22 20:20
MinceRi don't think the government of ukraine is even anywhere near as close to being nazis as orban and his pals are.Jul 22 20:20
schestowitzOrban is quite badJul 22 20:21
schestowitzmaybe as bad as the Ukrainian gov.Jul 22 20:21
schestowitzwhich bombs its own citiesJul 22 20:21
schestowitzThe Russians have some offensive words by which to allude to UkraniansJul 22 20:21
MinceRand i don't think that holding a "referendum" at gunpoint is "real democracy".Jul 22 20:22
MinceRthey probably had such words even before the holodomorJul 22 20:22
schestowitzthat would be crimeaJul 22 20:23
schestowitzputitin is evilJul 22 20:23
schestowitzbut he hasn't a monopoly on being evilJul 22 20:23
MinceRindeedJul 22 20:23
schestowitzthe french and us did that in haiti, I thinkJul 22 20:23
MinceRthere's a lot of evil on this worldJul 22 20:23
MinceRand if two factions oppose each other, one faction being clearly evil doesn't make the other one goodJul 22 20:23
MinceRmany people lack the mental capability to understand this factJul 22 20:23
MinceRhence hungarians supporting fidesz for the sole reason that they're convinced mszp is evilJul 22 20:24
MinceR(which they probably are, but it doesn't follow.)Jul 22 20:24
MinceRrussia opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good.Jul 22 20:24
MinceRnorth korea opposing the usa doesn't make either of them good.Jul 22 20:25
msb__schestowitz: So Putitin attacked Pussy.  That's pretty good!Jul 22 20:25
MinceRyeah, down with everyone who attacks religionJul 22 20:25
MinceRoh, waitJul 22 20:25
*MinceR seems to remember some things msb__ said about "JCI religion"Jul 22 20:25
*MinceR wonders what putin would think about those thingsJul 22 20:25
msb__MinceR: Please try to remember:  I have never said that Putin is the ideal leader.  But the US has destroyed Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya and murdered more than 2,000,000 people since 2001.Jul 22 20:28
MinceRthe US has also upheld the principles of democracy to a greater degree than russia ever has.Jul 22 20:29
msb__MinceR: Putin and others are trying to stop that with economic alliances and by protecting Russians in east Ukraine.Jul 22 20:29
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MinceRno, they're trying no such thingsJul 22 20:29
MinceRputin is trying to re-establish the russian empireJul 22 20:29
msb__MinceR: No.  Democracy in the US is nearly a total fraud.Jul 22 20:29
MinceRmsb__: democracy in russia is a total fraud.Jul 22 20:30
MinceRthere still is some freedom of speech in the US and it's at least considered in words to be a good idea.Jul 22 20:30
MinceRin russia, there's brutal censorshipJul 22 20:30
MinceRthe us has a two-party system. russia has a one-party system.Jul 22 20:31
msb__Both US parties are run by wealthy oligarchs.Jul 22 20:32
MinceRrussia is run by wealthy oligarchs controlled by putin.Jul 22 20:32
msb__XRevan86: How democratic is Russia?  Is there freedom of speech?Jul 22 20:32
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MinceRmsb__: you could test it by saying the truth about christianity publicly on russian soil. :>Jul 22 20:33
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MinceRmsb__: you might also want to look into how russia and the us tolerates homosexualsJul 22 20:34
XRevan86msb__: Not much. No, there is no freedom of speech.Jul 22 20:34
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MinceRXRevan86: do russians speak of freedom of speech as if it were an important value for them and their country?Jul 22 20:35
XRevan86MinceR: People stopped caring about anything a long time ago.Jul 22 20:36
msb__XRevan86: Has Putin improved the Russian economy over the way Yeltsin left it?Jul 22 20:43
XRevan86msb__: He did.Jul 22 20:43
XRevan86It sucks much less now.Jul 22 20:43
XRevan86msb__: I have a PC you know :D.Jul 22 20:45
msb__How big is your display?Jul 22 20:46
XRevan86msb__: 20''Jul 22 20:46
msb__Good!Jul 22 20:47
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MinceRhttp://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/124752050212/a-wise-man-observed-that-wealth-is-a-tool-of#_=_Jul 22 21:45
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msb__MinceR: I don't understand that comic.  Calvin is the kid, so the blind bully is Muad'Dib?  But Muad'Dib is the spiritual hero of Dune.Jul 22 22:10
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MinceRno, calvin is muad'dibJul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/Ttqe8RfHzkJul 22 22:11
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TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Jul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7877Jul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach & ClearJul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Games, Interstellaria And TIS-100 Now On GOGJul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines                 For Linux https://t.co/dAFjOKtHNyJul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 22 22:11
MinceRthough occasionally hobbes is muad'dib insteadJul 22 22:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78iyJul 22 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach & Clear Games, Interstellaria And TIS-100 Now On GOG For Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 22 22:11
MinceRlike here: http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/post/96920417284/every-sense-you-possess-is-an-instrument-for#_=_Jul 22 22:12
MinceRexcept i'm not sure if that's muad'dibJul 22 22:13
MinceRlooks like both are Leto IIJul 22 22:13
MinceR:)Jul 22 22:13
msb__I love Calvin & Hobbes and Dune, but that combination of them doesn't make a lot of sense, except as a lawsuit waiting to happen.Jul 22 22:17
cubexyzhmmm, xchat was flashing but I can't see any messageJul 22 22:17
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MinceRi think it's niceJul 22 22:18
XRevan86cubexyz: You're still using xchat instead of a living fork? :)Jul 22 22:18
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cubexyzXRevan86, sometimes I use ircii on quasijarusJul 22 22:19
MinceRand they did got harrassed with a DMCA "notification"Jul 22 22:19
cubexyzwhat fork?Jul 22 22:19
XRevan86cubexyz: HexChatJul 22 22:19
MinceRshit like that is killing our cultureJul 22 22:19
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cubexyzXRevan86, did you know that yandex has working repos for openbsd 2.0?Jul 22 22:20
cubexyzpretty coolJul 22 22:20
XRevan86cubexyz: You mean mirrors?Jul 22 22:20
cubexyzXRevan86, I guessJul 22 22:21
cubexyzwhat's the difference?Jul 22 22:21
XRevan86cubexyz: Not an original content %)Jul 22 22:21
XRevan86cubexyz: mirror.yandex.ru is pretty cool, yeah.Jul 22 22:21
MinceRi wonder what backdoors they build in thereJul 22 22:21
XRevan86I wonder how much did they pay for hacking GPG keys.Jul 22 22:21
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cubexyzwell I suppose it's possibleJul 22 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Testing Fedora Cloud image withJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 systemd-networkd http://t.co/DhNEnophMyJul 22 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Testing Fedora Cloud image with systemd-networkdJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (kushaldas.in)Jul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78o9Jul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal,Jul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z1 Launch Inches CloserJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8R7sPB4AY0 (www.tizenexperts.com)Jul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78obJul 22 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Tizen Store Opens for Paid Apps in Nepal, Samsung Z1 Launch Inches Closer - Tizen ExpertsJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Another digest from PolarilandJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1RZDXV1WsP (blogs.gnome.org)Jul 22 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/bastian/2015/07/22/another-digest-from-polariland/ )Jul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78ocJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME To Do 3.17.4 http://t.co/SjoFv45qalJul 22 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feaneron.com | GNOME To Do 3.17.4 | Georges StavracasJul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (feaneron.com)Jul 22 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78oeJul 22 22:25
MinceRi suppose if it has valid signatures from the openbsd team then it's probably legitJul 22 22:26
cubexyzlooks like the Saudia Arabian mirror is the sameJul 22 22:26
cubexyzalmost every mirror dumped 4.7Jul 22 22:28
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cubexyzCosta Rica has back to 4.3Jul 22 22:29
cubexyz4.7 is only 2010, it's not that oldJul 22 22:30
cubexyzI think lftp can calculate how big a directory isJul 22 22:36
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cubexyz27 gigs?Jul 22 22:38
cubexyzyes, it must be about thatJul 22 22:39
cubexyzof course that's just i386Jul 22 22:40
cubexyzI wonder if vax is any different in sizeJul 22 22:41
msb__XRevan86: MinceR: Here is a long article by some Russians about Putin's strategy regarding Ukraine.  Of course they consider the US-backed coup in Ukraine to have installed a Nazi government, as do all alternative news services.   http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=14600Jul 22 22:42
MinceRwhat do they consider putin?Jul 22 22:42
msb__A leader doing his best to oppose US aggression.Jul 22 22:42
cubexyzvax is less than 1 gigJul 22 22:43
MinceRinteresting how they do not see the nazi in their own homeJul 22 22:45
MinceRthen again, there are millions of such idiots in hungary, tooJul 22 22:45
msb__MinceR: you do know that the Nazi govt in Ukraine shot down that Malaysian airliner, right?Jul 22 22:45
cubexyzwell windows is the most "popular" OSJul 22 22:45
MinceRi do know that putler and his fans claim they didJul 22 22:45
cubexyzthat wouldn't happen unless people were lazy or stupidJul 22 22:45
cubexyzno firefox, no wesnoth, no openoffice for vaxJul 22 22:47
cubexyzso it's way smallerJul 22 22:48
msb__There are pictures of metal pieces of the plane showing punctures coming from both sides.  That can only have been from cannon fire from the two Ukrainian fighter jets that peoiple saw on both sides of the jetliner.  Shrapnel from a Russian missile would have made holes coming only from one direction.  Jul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To LinuxJul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LpJptDF83O (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78xcJul 22 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux | Tux MachinesJul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive,Jul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 needs your help http://t.co/BMquLDOxthJul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (mitya57.me)Jul 22 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mitya57.me | GNOME Flashback 3.16 available in archive, needs your help - mitya57’s weblogJul 22 22:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n78xeJul 22 22:48
MinceRtell us about 9/11 too, pleaseJul 22 22:49
cubexyzit's better we stick to tech stuffJul 22 22:49
MinceRyeah, it would be betterJul 22 22:49
MinceRbut msb__ insists on supporting his favorite dictator regularlyJul 22 22:49
msb__MinceR: Sure:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911  Five excellent videos plus my own pages.Jul 22 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneJul 22 22:51
msb__MinceR: Please stop the personal attacks.Jul 22 22:51
MinceRmsb__: please stop the bullshit.Jul 22 22:52
msb__MinceR: What bullshit?Jul 22 22:52
MinceRmainly the one about putlerJul 22 22:52
MinceRbut also the one about 9/11, chemtrails and reptiliansJul 22 22:53
msb__MinceR: What bullshit about Putin?Jul 22 22:53
MinceRthere are enough real issues without inventing fake onesJul 22 22:53
MinceRthat he's a democrat, that he supports freedom of speech and other human rights, that opposing the usa justifies oppressing one's own people and taking over nearby countriesJul 22 22:53
MinceRthe usual bullshit.Jul 22 22:54
msb__MinceR: I have never said any such things.  I've only said that Putin is doing a good job of trying to block US aggression, which has murdered millions of people.  Jul 22 22:55
MinceRthat's like saying hitler did a good job of trying to block allied aggression by having the people murdered himself insteadJul 22 22:56
XRevan86MinceR: Bad analogy that is.Jul 22 22:56
MinceRindeed.Jul 22 22:56
msb__MinceR: I have never advocated the existence of reptilians either.  Where did you come up with that?Jul 22 22:57
MinceRi expected that to follow, in the usual progression of lunatic fringe nutcase bullshitJul 22 22:57
msb__MinceR: As to 9/11 and chemtrails, if you claim they are fake, you simply don't know what you are talking about.Jul 22 22:58
MinceRalso, before you start mouthing off about who killed how many millions, i recommend looking up the stats for some of your idols.Jul 22 22:58
MinceRlike stalin and mao zedong.Jul 22 22:58
msb__MinceR: They are not my idols at all.Jul 22 22:58
MinceRi can tell.Jul 22 22:58
XRevan86MinceR: US govt surely did that.Jul 22 22:59
MinceRXRevan86: oh, that's fine, that completely excuses north korea, then.Jul 22 22:59
MinceRoh wait, it fucking doesn't.Jul 22 22:59
XRevan86MinceR: Who says anything about North Korea?Jul 22 22:59
MinceRthe same "hurr durr they're opposing the usa, the only remaining evil left in our world" narrative appliesJul 22 23:00
*TweetTuxMachines @btcrs favourited 'Two Call Of Cthulhu Games, Both Breach &amp;...'Jul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android M: 5 small but important featuresJul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines                 you’re going to love http://t.co/zlNIO9G3z6Jul 22 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android M best features, tricks | BGRJul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (bgr.com)Jul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n791sJul 22 23:01
XRevan86MinceR: NK is like the worst.Jul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MontaVista spins IoT version of its CarrierJul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Grade Linux http://t.co/c9oMLzng0YJul 22 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | MontaVista spins IoT version of its Carrier Grade Linux ·  LinuxGizmos.comJul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Jul 22 23:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n791wJul 22 23:01
XRevan86MinceR: And pretty weak as well :)Jul 22 23:01
MinceRXRevan86: the same applies to russia.Jul 22 23:01
XRevan86MinceR: Only to some very limited extent.Jul 22 23:02
msb__MinceR: I have never said that the US is the only evil remaining in the world.  But, along with the Islamic psychopaths it is arming and supporting, it is murdering far more people than any other entity.Jul 22 23:03
XRevan86US is the most successful evil in the world.Jul 22 23:03
msb__Yes!Jul 22 23:03
MinceRXRevan86: i've seen what it would be like if russia was more successful than the usJul 22 23:03
MinceRso i'm glad russia isn't.Jul 22 23:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Commodore's Ghost Lives in New MachineJul 22 23:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kqpiQttvxp (www.linuxinsider.com)Jul 22 23:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7934Jul 22 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Commodore's Ghost Lives in New Machine | Smartphones | LinuxInsiderJul 22 23:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     diff -u: What's New in Kernel DevelopmentJul 22 23:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lO680FXQ0I (www.linuxjournal.com)Jul 22 23:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7936Jul 22 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux JournalJul 22 23:04
cubexyzI feel I should point out that the USA also invented UnixJul 22 23:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wichita State group recruits young computerJul 22 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 users to Linux system http://t.co/iypvgIm6DrJul 22 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kansas.com | Wichita State group recruits young computer users to Linux system | The Wichita EagleJul 22 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.kansas.com)Jul 22 23:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7938Jul 22 23:04
cubexyzand DEC PDP-11Jul 22 23:04
cubexyzso they did good things as wellJul 22 23:04
MinceRi feel i should point out that the greatest IT accomplishments of the USSR were copying some usian computersJul 22 23:04
XRevan86cubexyz: I thought it's K&R :)Jul 22 23:04
cubexyznot K&RJul 22 23:04
MinceRand that i couldn't even be a software engineer if the empire of those barbarians hadn't collapsed.Jul 22 23:04
XRevan86MinceR: Not true.Jul 22 23:04
cubexyzThompson and RitchieJul 22 23:05
XRevan86MinceR: USSR failed at IT exactly when it started copying US.Jul 22 23:05
cubexyzK&R wrote the C bookJul 22 23:05
MinceRand that i would be considered an "enemy of the system" because i'm highly educated.Jul 22 23:05
XRevan86cubexyz: rightJul 22 23:05
cubexyzstill important of courseJul 22 23:05
MinceRXRevan86: why did they copy the US, then?Jul 22 23:06
MinceR(hint, hint)Jul 22 23:06
XRevan86MinceR: Because Hrusshev was Hrusshev.Jul 22 23:06
XRevan86HrusŝevJul 22 23:06
cubexyzat least Canada can take some credit for OpenBSDJul 22 23:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapidJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Kubernetes deployments http://t.co/KzVgKeQlVdJul 22 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​CoreOS releases Tectonic beta for rapid Kubernetes deployments | ZDNetJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Jul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n794nJul 22 23:07
XRevan86* HruŝevJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 4.0.9 Is the Last in the Series,Jul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Please Move to Linux Kernel 4.1 LTSJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wpqKMUYc4c (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 22 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.0.9 Is the Last in the Series, Please Move to Linux Kernel 4.1 LTS - SoftpediaJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n794oJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To LinuxJul 22 23:07
XRevan86Why did I put that "s" there?Jul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UnvpdY6uVBJul 22 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Feel Scammed By Microsoft? Switch To Linux « Everyday Linux UserJul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Jul 22 23:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n794pJul 22 23:07
XRevan86Did I forget how to pronounce Russian? :DJul 22 23:07
cubexyzhow often do those links get posted?Jul 22 23:07
MinceRХрущёвJul 22 23:08
msb__XRevan86: I thought you were coughing.Jul 22 23:08
cubexyzit seems like it's every 10 minutesJul 22 23:08
*cubexyz pulls out the chronographJul 22 23:08
MinceRmsb__: you obviously don't know your history.Jul 22 23:08
XRevan86MinceR: I wonder how to show that "ё" in EnglishJul 22 23:08
XRevan86Maybe like "Hrushov"Jul 22 23:08
MinceRin the usual english orthography, they just pretend it's the same as eJul 22 23:08
MinceRso they write KhrushchevJul 22 23:09
XRevan86Yeah, that's correct: sh is soft in English, I constantly forget about that.Jul 22 23:09
cubexyzhow do they refer to Unix in Russia? Do they just use the english word?Jul 22 23:09
MinceR(since ё is just a special case of a stressed 'e')Jul 22 23:09
XRevan86cubexyz: Of course.Jul 22 23:09
MinceRwell, the language of IT is englishJul 22 23:09
XRevan86MinceR: "ё" is not a special case of "е"Jul 22 23:09
MinceRthen my russian teacher was wrong or lyingJul 22 23:10
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XRevan86MinceR: https://translate.google.com/#ru/ru/ель%2C%20ёлкаJul 22 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [ http://ur1.ca/n7960 ]Jul 22 23:10
msb__You Russians and Hungarians spend so much time obsessing over accented and substituted letters.  Speak English!  It's much simpler!Jul 22 23:11
msb__Down with UTF-8!Jul 22 23:11
XRevan86msb__: Russian is so much more strict on pronouncingJul 22 23:11
XRevan86guess why Russian doesn't have many accents :)Jul 22 23:11
XRevan86And those that exist English would hardly consider.Jul 22 23:12
cubexyzIT isn't totally english basedJul 22 23:13
cubexyzAPL uses Greek charactersJul 22 23:13
XRevan86cubexyz: It pretty much is.Jul 22 23:13
cubexyzI'm trying hard to think of another example :)Jul 22 23:13
XRevan86except for freaky cases :)Jul 22 23:13
XRevan86cubexyz: 99.9% English-basedJul 22 23:13
XRevan86not totally, yeah :DJul 22 23:13
cubexyzXRevan86, ok :)Jul 22 23:13
XRevan86oh waitJul 22 23:14
XRevan8699.5%Jul 22 23:14
XRevan86there is 1CJul 22 23:14
XRevan86A very popular Russian accounting thingJul 22 23:14
XRevan86it has a built-in programming languageJul 22 23:14
XRevan86and it's Russian-basedJul 22 23:14
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%81Jul 22 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Yo (Cyrillic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 22 23:14
MinceR"The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable."Jul 22 23:14
cubexyzsome sort of spreadsheet?Jul 22 23:14
MinceR"The letter Yo is the seventh letter of the alphabet, but although it indicates a distinct sound from Ye, it is often, but not always, treated as the same letter for purposes of alphabetisation and sorting."Jul 22 23:15
XRevan86> it indicates a distinct sound from YeJul 22 23:15
MinceR"Except for a brief period after World War II, the use of ⟨ё⟩ was never obligatory in standard Russian orthography. By and large, it is used only in dictionaries and in pedagogical literature intended for children and students of Russian as a second language, Otherwise ⟨е⟩ is used, and ⟨ё⟩ occurs only when it is necessary to avoid ambiguity"Jul 22 23:15
msb__We're a simple culture here in the US, derived from ex-cons and religious idiots.  Kill!  Eat!  Fuck!  That's all we do.Jul 22 23:15
cubexyzgenetics :)Jul 22 23:15
XRevan86MinceR: "ё" is still different from "е" very much as you can see.Jul 22 23:16
msb__yep!Jul 22 23:16
MinceRXRevan86: i didn't say they were the exact same thing, thoughJul 22 23:16
MinceRmsb__: you forgot "Hate"Jul 22 23:16
XRevan86MinceR: A different soundJul 22 23:16
XRevan86so Hrushov and Hrushev does not sound the sameJul 22 23:16
XRevan86do*Jul 22 23:16
msb__Our neighbors to the north at least have the benefit of some beaver and moose genes.Jul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "They should delete their OS-test. It’s none ofJul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 their business what OS I run."Jul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UHoacSq1vX (mrpogson.com)Jul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7988Jul 22 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Success | Robert PogsonJul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/9sTOX3I0kdJul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Jul 22 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n7980Jul 22 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/KwE7hZ2OrhJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n798aJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/70UmbXvmwyJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n798bJul 22 23:17
MinceRthe same article also mentions the weirdness in the spelling of Khrushchev and Gorbachev in englishJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora: The Latest http://t.co/HirMWt8Wj7Jul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n798dJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/Wj66iMx1BEJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/n798eJul 22 23:17
XRevan86> stressedJul 22 23:17
XRevan86(01:14:48) MinceR: "The letter ⟨ё⟩ is always in a stressed syllable."Jul 22 23:17
XRevan86MinceR: I misunderstood you -_-Jul 22 23:17
MinceRi suspected itJul 22 23:18
cubexyzALGOL 68 allows internationalization of the languageJul 22 23:18
MinceRbut hopefully we're on the same page nowJul 22 23:18
XRevan86MinceR: But I know how to call "udarenie" in English :)Jul 22 23:18
XRevan86nowJul 22 23:18
MinceR(i wasn't even sure "stressed" is the right term)Jul 22 23:18
XRevan86Now I don't :DJul 22 23:18
MinceRlolJul 22 23:18
cubexyzso there's Cyrillic ALGOL 68 :)Jul 22 23:18
MinceRm$ excel also translates the function names, at least in the hungarian version, which is insaneJul 22 23:19
XRevan86cubexyz: If you'll manage to find this thing in 2015…Jul 22 23:19
MinceRbut it's the sort of insanity one would expect from m$Jul 22 23:19
XRevan86MinceR: It does indeed.Jul 22 23:19
XRevan86LibreOffice Calc doesn't do that thankfully.Jul 22 23:19
cubexyzand of course there's symbol based languages Jul 22 23:20
MinceRindeed, neither does gnumericJul 22 23:20
XRevan86Funny observation: the only establishment I've been in that has stupidly smiling cashiers is McDonalds.Jul 22 23:22
XRevan86Apparently it's their policy.Jul 22 23:23
XRevan86Don't ask what I did there.Jul 22 23:23
cubexyzwell working at McDonalds must be rather stupefyingJul 22 23:23
MinceR:>Jul 22 23:23
XRevan86What I want to ask is: is this thing a norm in US?Jul 22 23:24
cubexyzI remember one time ordering a drink at the drive-thru and they asked me if I wanted a drink with thatJul 22 23:24
XRevan86Constantly smiling cashiersJul 22 23:24
MinceRcubexyz: lolJul 22 23:24
XRevan86cubexyz: One drink is never enough :)Jul 22 23:25
MinceRi think there's at least one kind of coffee that's traditionally drank with some other drink (probably water)Jul 22 23:26
MinceRplus there's Klatchian coffee on Discworld :>Jul 22 23:26
XRevan86Because I don't trust these smiles at all. And so I see lies instead of trustworthiness.Jul 22 23:26
XRevan86and from what I know, nobody does :)Jul 22 23:27
cubexyzjust imagine a smiling Bill Gates telling you to trust Microsoft :)Jul 22 23:27
MinceRi don't see any reason to decide whether to trust them, they're largely irrelevantJul 22 23:27
MinceRit's a pretty simple deal: they get money, i get foodJul 22 23:27
cubexyz"do you want fries with that?"Jul 22 23:27
XRevan86MinceR: But they want me to think something.Jul 22 23:28
cubexyzI never go there nowadaysJul 22 23:28
cubexyzyes damn it, I want extra fries with my fries and a drink with my drinkJul 22 23:28
msb__Corporations have only one obligation: maximize the profits of their shareholders.  So they are the economic equivalents of psychopaths.Jul 22 23:29
MinceRthose are public corporationsJul 22 23:30
MinceRprivate corporations are not obligated to be evilJul 22 23:30
msb__A bit of an exaggeration.  They aren't all evil.Jul 22 23:30
MinceRi thought we were talking about legal obligations to be evil, not actual evilness :>Jul 22 23:33
msb__MinceR: You consider some information, like 9-11 and chemtrail/HAARP research,  to be "lunatic fringe nutcase bullshit" simply because it differs from mainstream beliefs.  But many people would consider your support of Linux, and especially your detailed opposition to systemd, to be "nutcase bullshit".  But you and we know that it isn't.     In a world where most people are programmed to live within "The Matrix", differing from Jul 22 23:47
msb__mainstream thought is not a reliable indicator of falsity.  That's why critical thinking requires accessing information that differs from your present beliefs.Jul 22 23:47
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cubexyzpeople are overly passiveJul 23 00:09
MinceRmsb__: no, the point is not what is mainstream and what isn't.Jul 23 00:12
MinceRmsb__: has it ever occurred to you that "mainstream thought" is not the only thing that critical thinking can debunk?Jul 23 00:13
msb__MinceR: Of course.  It is the key to _accurate_ thinking.Jul 23 00:14
MinceRfor example, i've seen and considered both sides of the 9/11 debate.Jul 23 00:15
msb__Have you watched all 5 videos linked on my homepage?Jul 23 00:16
MinceRnoJul 23 00:16
msb__I think you should.  You are obviously a very smart guy.  I think they will convince you.Jul 23 00:17
msb__The govt story of 9-11 falls apart in many different ways.Jul 23 00:19
MinceRso does the most loudly promoted conspiracy theory.Jul 23 00:20
msb__Which is?Jul 23 00:20
MinceRespecially in assuming unforeseen competence in the government when it comes to keeping stuff secretJul 23 00:20
MinceRmissiles, controlled demolition, thermite, stuff like thatJul 23 00:21
cubexyzdoes motif mwm have a way to run a program not on the menu?Jul 23 00:24
msb__Current thought is that missiles were not involved.  All three WTC buildings -- 1, 2, and 7 -- meet all the criteria for controlled demolition, and steel-frame buildings simply do not fall down from cool smoky fires..    The thermite flakes were found in dust samples and chemically analyzed by several different techniques, and shown to burn like thermite.Jul 23 00:25
MinceRwho placed the demolition charges and when? how were they not noticed? how did they have time to do that in secret?Jul 23 00:26
MinceRthe steel frame sagging due to the heat (it didn't melt and it didn't have to melt) and pancaking floors is a much simpler explanation of the evidence i've seen.Jul 23 00:27
msb__The charges were built in when the buildings were constructed.  The detonators were added shortly before 9-11.  http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/#CORESJul 23 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsJul 23 00:29
MinceRwho the hell builds an office building with built-in explosives?Jul 23 00:30
MinceRand how the hell does such an incompetent government keep that in secret?Jul 23 00:30
msb__"Simpler" doesn't necessarily mean correct.Jul 23 00:30
MinceRthis is an incredibly unlikely hypothesis.Jul 23 00:30
MinceRa simpler explanation is more likely to be true.Jul 23 00:30
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razorJul 23 00:31
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msb__Please read the evidence I've directed you to.Jul 23 00:31
msb__Of course I know about Occam's Razor.  So does the US government.Jul 23 00:31
msb__They rely on people believing it absolutely.  "The buildings fell because planes hit them, you idiot!"Jul 23 00:32
MinceRi'm definitely not going to take on the obligation to wade through such a mass of such badly presented material this week.Jul 23 00:32
MinceR"fact" 1 ignores the amount of air present between floorsJul 23 00:33
msb__How?Jul 23 00:34
MinceRa floor falling on top of another (due to the steel supports holding them apart losing most of their strength) would expel the air between themJul 23 00:35
MinceRhence, sideways force.Jul 23 00:36
msb__There were no cannon barrels to direct the compressed air to the 10-ton girders in order to propel them horizontally at 70 miles/hour.Jul 23 00:37
MinceRthere was furniture, thoughJul 23 00:37
MinceRand interior wallsJul 23 00:37
msb__So?Jul 23 00:37
MinceRthose could have helped focus the force on the occasional girder.Jul 23 00:38
msb__How?  By magic?Jul 23 00:39
MinceRno, physicsJul 23 00:39
MinceRfact 3 is interesting -- i've heard other conspiracy theories _expecting_ molten metal and _denying_ it was presentJul 23 00:39
msb__Have you taken courses in physics?  Are you familiar with F=ma?Jul 23 00:39
MinceRi have.Jul 23 00:39
MinceRand you're removing my interest in this subject currently.Jul 23 00:40
msb__How?Jul 23 00:40
msb__How could furniture or wallboard focus compressed air on a ten-ton girder to accelerate it to 70mph?Jul 23 00:42
MinceRthat only depends on the pressure and amount of airJul 23 00:43
msb__It also depends on the air not being able to flow in many other directions, instead of pressing only on the girder.Jul 23 00:45
msb__ThatJul 23 00:45
MinceRindeedJul 23 00:45
msb__That's why cannons are cylinders open only at one end.Jul 23 00:45
MinceRthough even that would only reduce the pressureJul 23 00:45
msb__yes -- indeedJul 23 00:45
msb__MinceR: If I go to the effort of figuring out the units for a ten ton girder being accelerated to 70mph, and it turns out to be an impossibly high pressure, will you promise to view all 5 videos, and read the linked pages on Chris Brown's site?Jul 23 00:49
MinceRi won't promise thatJul 23 00:49
MinceRalso it seems to me that the different sides claim different evidence is present, and i have no way of figuring out which is correct.Jul 23 00:50
msb__That's where an understanding of physics comes in.  And critical thinking.Jul 23 00:52
MinceRi see here a video that claims explosions were heard. i do not wish to listen to it at this timeJul 23 00:53
MinceRi've seen a video where they weren't heard.Jul 23 00:53
MinceRsince i wasn't there, there's no way for me to determine which is true.Jul 23 00:54
msb__Do you think somebody faked the video?  What about the fireman imitating the explosion sounds?Jul 23 00:55
cubexyzhow was WTC heated?Jul 23 00:56
MinceRwell, either one of them is interpreted incorrectly, or both are; or one of them is fake, or both areJul 23 00:57
msb__Genghis Khan and the Mongol Hordes had cannons.  But that was in 1215AD.  I thought they were much older.  Anyhow, they used cylindrical cannon barrels, not gunpowder, a cannon ball and some random furniture.Jul 23 00:57
msb__cubexyz: by cold fusionJul 23 00:58
MinceRthat would be because the furniture approach would be very inefficient for this purposeJul 23 00:58
MinceRthat doesn't mean it can't happen, it means you can accomplish the same ends with far less resources if that's your intent.Jul 23 00:59
msb__Yes, and even less efficient for a ten ton girder!Jul 23 00:59
MinceRalso, what is our source for the girder being embedded into an adjacent building or whatever it was embedded into?Jul 23 00:59
msb__MinceR: Only if The Force you can harness!Jul 23 00:59
msb__MinceR: I don't know off hand.  But their speed can be measured from the video.Jul 23 01:01
MinceRonly if you know their distance from the cameraJul 23 01:01
msb__cubexyz: the question has never come up.  Probably electric heating.Jul 23 01:01
cubexyzmsb__, I think they used steamJul 23 01:02
cubexyznot positive thoughJul 23 01:02
msb__MinceR: No, you know the width of the building and the distance between floors.Jul 23 01:02
MinceRalso, the claim about the C4-"like" plastic is suspiciousJul 23 01:02
msb__I trust Chris, and a few other people recall seeing the video also.Jul 23 01:03
msb__There's no reason why an anti-corrosion coating would be extremely flammable.Jul 23 01:04
MinceRindeed.Jul 23 01:04
MinceRon the other hand, heating it may release some nasty, toxic fumesJul 23 01:04
msb__The welders would just place some kind of heat sink between the weld and the coating (which would not extend to the ends of the rebars).Jul 23 01:06
MinceRthat would help in the 'fumes' caseJul 23 01:06
MinceRthen again, i'm not in any way trained for weldingJul 23 01:07
msb__and it would keep the plastique from catching fire.Jul 23 01:07
MinceRalso, a chemical compound being "like" another does not mean it behaves similarlyJul 23 01:08
msb__You know that C4 doesn't explode if you just light it.  You have to use a detonator to create a highspeed shockwave.Jul 23 01:08
MinceRyeah, i faintly remember something like thatJul 23 01:09
msb__Using a primary explosive instead of a secondary one in that application would be ridiculously stupid.Jul 23 01:09
msb__I read that GIs would sometimes light a cube of C4 to cook their dinner.Jul 23 01:10
MinceR:)Jul 23 01:10
MinceRand indeed C-4 contains synthetic rubber as a binder, but that's not explosiveJul 23 01:12
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_%28explosive%29Jul 23 01:12
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msb__Fried Spam tastes pretty good, actually.Jul 23 01:12
MinceRindeedJul 23 01:12
MinceRi've had fried luncheon meat (not spam brand, though)Jul 23 01:12
msb__melts out much of the fatJul 23 01:12
MinceRfat contributes to the sense of tasteJul 23 01:13
msb__There's still plenty left.Jul 23 01:13
MinceR:)Jul 23 01:13
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#FattinessJul 23 01:13
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MinceRapparently it's still in debateJul 23 01:13
msb__I think it's an excuse by butchers and grocers to sell you fat.  I like the taste of purely lean meat.Jul 23 01:14
cubexyzspam has that unique spam tasteJul 23 01:41
MinceRmaybe i'll get to try it somedayJul 23 01:42
cubexyzit seems no one wrote a clipboard manager mwmJul 23 01:54
MinceRthose were simpler times :>Jul 23 01:54
cubexyzlooks like sourceforce is back at leastJul 23 01:54
cubexyzsourceforgeJul 23 01:55
cubexyzha, there actually is oneJul 23 02:02
cubexyzcutviewJul 23 02:02
cubexyzhttp://www.users.uswest.net/~hmahon/sources/cutview-1.69.src.tgzJul 23 02:03
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cubexyzok, no more messing aroundJul 23 02:28
cubexyzthe future is here:Jul 23 02:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SusanPickin/status/624122344571805696Jul 23 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SusanPickin: @schestowitz @IPDraughts wonder why that is - make it easier?Jul 23 08:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624072915110080512  https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077492370935808   https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624077933674635264Jul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: .@GetUpStandUp2 @PublicEd4Bernie @AJC4others @SenSanders @BadassTeachersA @Women4Bernie "Bill Gates ... Monsanto ..." http://t.co/63qHn7ccfWJul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance by philanthropist and accounting expert http://t.co/MokXcXGymy See what into!Jul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.comJul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn invests Pharma patent Tobacco Alcoholic beverages Petroleum Experimental controversial crops evn news/media http://t.co/WGvRZG8rtEJul 23 08:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079229475356672  https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624079929903222784 https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624080527608315904Jul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Need not pay tax tho keeps control of assets, use 2 control influence private, public policy http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f See what Bill #Gates n2!Jul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights - Linkis.comJul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation was described as a shell for tax avoidance Maintain investments & use to control Even news/media! http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9fJul 23 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Foundation shell 4 tax avoidance? Invests in news / media used to control? http://t.co/yASFZsEJ9f ie #Monsanto #GMO #BernieBlackout?Jul 23 08:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081167927648256  https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081604101672960  https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624081951490723840Jul 23 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Fdn dependence/lock-in cascades down 2 businesses homes Creates revenue wd not exist n free market & Pay 0 tax? http://t.co/bctIFfEWhVJul 23 08:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates also able bring public money to himself through energy & public health policy - and Pays no tax? http://t.co/ducmpsEIHS #Monsanto #GMOJul 23 08:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "As Gates has diversified, his corrupting influence has spread to other portions of the economy." http://t.co/kb8yA8lbRI See what Bill into!Jul 23 08:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624082753332617220   https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624084936107139072   https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624087193678651392Jul 23 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House .... under the guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/E1crfghQArJul 23 08:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "Bill .... Gates Foundation ... private front group (2 advance his 4 profit interests) guise of goodwill or charity." http://t.co/QhzsEV51EUJul 23 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Bill Gates Buys the System, Writes Cheques to the White House | Techrights - Linkis.comJul 23 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: "(Bill) Gates not only plutocrat ... camouflage his agenda ...but probably the biggest .... charities ... a sham .... http://t.co/dwkaJP97gKJul 23 08:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624089571698081796   https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/624114416548773888Jul 23 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Bill Gates self-feeding money vacuums call4 taxpayer money, explains 2 public Y not harm integrity or real charities http://t.co/JPBWUmUiy5Jul 23 08:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates... Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education http://t.co/xiwnTE83kr #BillGates #GMO #glyphosate #cancerJul 23 08:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Silver_Lake_PartnersJul 23 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sourcewatch.org | Silver Lake Partners - SourceWatch [ http://ur1.ca/n7dqa ]Jul 23 08:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624170431633821696Jul 23 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz that sounds like one of Newton's laws! Should we call it Schestowitz's First Law of Computer Security??😀Jul 23 11:57
schestowitzIt's more to do with spam than security. Maybe we can learn how serious and widespread back doors are based on volume of spam :-)Jul 23 11:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624173536572276736Jul 23 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I agree. There was a time before the web when we used to crave for news. Now we are overwhelmed by spam and crave credibilityJul 23 12:06
schestowitzPaper scarcityJul 23 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624174961742245888  https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/624175451708239872Jul 23 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz actually, he only got fired from Fox Business. He's still a contributor to Fox News. IMHO, it was publicity for his book.Jul 23 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz and the number of spam invites has increased substantiallyJul 23 12:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 23 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME Flashback 3.16/3.17 Lands In Debian/Ubuntu - PhoronixJul 23 12:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624177732016996352Jul 23 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Establishment/institutionalised #racism as practiced in #Mexico by the #SpanishScum is as corrosive as overt display https://t.co/MMNQkHtlhIJul 23 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Establishment/institutionalised racism treated with far more tolerance than personal/individual racism as if might(or magnitude)makes rightJul 23 12:23
schestowitzin Philippines (still called under the occupier) tooJul 23 12:23
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624179575950409728Jul 23 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: + #Colombia, #Honduras, #Guatemala, #Chile… generally any colony where there is a #Spanish-descended clique in power https://t.co/q2OGWHFrZtJul 23 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT in Philippines (still called under the occupier) tooJul 23 12:30
schestowitzWell, now they have economic issues too.... about timeJul 23 12:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/624182341292830720Jul 23 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's unbelievable but true. I still wonder how did #Spain waste *all* of 300+ years of #plundering 'Latin'America https://t.co/Q5uksU8ElfJul 23 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Metztli_IT Well, now they have economic issues too.... about timeJul 23 12:43
schestowitzIt still does to a degree, I think. Look whose blood the richest families have.Jul 23 12:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM,Jul 23 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 and UFS Improvements, Updated DriversJul 23 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.18.19 LTS Adds x86, Btrfs, ARM, and UFS Improvements, Updated Drivers - SoftpediaJul 23 12:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many FixesJul 23 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 to the RSS Miner http://t.co/8WutkKH8SdJul 23 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME's Tracker Search Engine Brings Many Fixes to the RSS Miner - SoftpediaJul 23 12:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A guide for community management from JonoJul 23 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Bacon http://t.co/sL2XTum2WhJul 23 12:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A guide for community management from Jono Bacon | Tux MachinesJul 23 12:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS andJul 23 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out NowJul 23 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS and Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out Now | Tux MachinesJul 23 13:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization SoftwareJul 23 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18Jul 23 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 | Tux MachinesJul 23 13:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 KitKat 4.4.4 Build 7 with GAPPS andJul 23 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.0.8 Out NowJul 23 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization SoftwareJul 23 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18Jul 23 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | QEMU-Based GNOME Boxes Virtualization Software Gets a Major Update for GNOME 3.18 - SoftpediaJul 23 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Orca Open-Source Screen Reader ImplementsJul 23 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Speech Support for MathML ContentJul 23 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Orca Open-Source Screen Reader Implements Speech Support for MathML Content - SoftpediaJul 23 13:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi HotspotJul 23 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu TouchJul 23 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CZsCzebewI (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 23 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Users Are Invited to Test Wi-Fi Hotspot (Internet Tethering) in Ubuntu Touch - SoftpediaJul 23 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | systemd evolving - DevOps Reactions [ http://ur1.ca/n7fk7 ]Jul 23 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Movie studios keep asking Google to remove pirated content on their own computers [ http://ur1.ca/n7fur ]Jul 23 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick Jul 23 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CCMGjKOzg9 (liliputing.com)Jul 23 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | Install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on the 2GB Intel Compute Stick - LiliputingJul 23 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Intel Compute Stick Review: The Shape of Things to Come | NDTV GadgetsJul 23 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneylife.in | Computing with a Stick! - MoneylifeJul 23 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com | A guide to PC sticks: What can they actually do?Jul 23 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System Is Now Based on LinuxJul 23 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 4.1.3 LTS http://t.co/Er52QbRMpFJul 23 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS - SoftpediaJul 23 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to ruin an open source project: Let meJul 23 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 count the ways http://t.co/aN9Jq7Mx4CJul 23 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to ruin an open source project: Let me count the ways | Tux MachinesJul 23 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, UpgradeJul 23 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 to Ubuntu 15.04 Now http://t.co/VcUJVAvbZ5Jul 23 14:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.10 Has Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 Now | Tux MachinesJul 23 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Operating System Is Now Based on LinuxJul 23 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 4.1.3 LTS http://t.co/hUUEvHjuzQJul 23 14:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Operating System Is Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.1.3 LTS | Tux MachinesJul 23 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policyJul 23 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 web page http://t.co/2D0uAq1siKJul 23 14:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: request to move the Canonical IP policy web page | Tux MachinesJul 23 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPS Navigation App Gets New and ImportantJul 23 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Features on Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/0KeePiGgbOJul 23 14:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch | Tux MachinesJul 23 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 GamesJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KzfSa69Y22 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 machines coming http://t.co/nQNz5I7pZaJul 23 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Now Has More than 1,300 Games - SoftpediaJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcr-online.biz)Jul 23 15:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcr-online.biz | Everything tech dealers need to know about Steam Machine | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC RetailJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GPS Navigation App Gets New and ImportantJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Features on Ubuntu Touch http://t.co/E7wIozkyQuJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 23 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GPS Navigation App Gets New and Important Features on Ubuntu Touch - SoftpediaJul 23 15:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital OneJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Releases Code http://t.co/jtbLrpWlmkJul 23 15:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/7/2015: New RHEL Release, Capital One Releases Code | TechrightsJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Devices http://t.co/V7HPb67QwNJul 23 15:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Devices | Tux MachinesJul 23 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, RiddellJul 23 15:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Intervention http://t.co/J4fz04N0oPJul 23 15:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Intel Compute Stick, Riddell Intervention | Tux MachinesJul 23 15:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/hOFPQUpRYaJul 23 15:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 23 15:08
MinceRhttp://kotaku.com/pro-tip-dont-copy-battlefield-3-stingers-1719695507Jul 23 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Pro-Tip: Don't Copy Battlefield 3 Stingers  [ http://ur1.ca/n7gme ]Jul 23 15:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220690992869376  https://twitter.com/DickieATX/status/624220794940293120Jul 23 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz 📡📡📡 Super Scary https://t.co/1NbsMtlEZV #1984 #Security #PrivacyJul 23 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.m.wikipedia.org | Telescreen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 23 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZJul 23 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DickieATX: @schestowitz http://t.co/kUo3FSijCZJul 23 15:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/624222740451430400Jul 23 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz that makes their message immediately suspicious anyways ..Jul 23 15:21
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/M9ZArbg.pngJul 23 15:52
oiaohmMinceR: really if that was done for Australia it would lot more screwballed.Jul 23 15:54
oiaohmYou have to remember pinegap setup is one of the biggest existing data collectors.Jul 23 15:55
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_GapJul 23 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pine Gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 23 15:58
oiaohmMinceR: weclome to legal stupid.   Its not legal for lots of USA intelegence groups to spy inside the USA or on USA based cits.   There is absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request.Jul 23 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/ctgoSSRuMyJul 23 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/IdeQtNXIuuJul 23 17:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 23 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 23 17:26
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msb_"absolutely no legal problem if Australians/New Zelenders do it for them at their request."  Definitely a moral problem though since our govt does not represent us American citizens at all.Jul 23 19:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/624290195110776832Jul 23 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz https://t.co/KK4XAD8vq3Jul 23 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> storify.com | Why "all lives matter" is an inappropriate, racist response to Black Lives Matter (with tweets) · the_author_ · StorifyJul 23 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyTJul 23 20:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/4s814jpylmJul 23 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:54
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MinceRhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/22/os_x_root_hole/Jul 23 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Get root on an OS X 10.10 Mac: The exploit is so trivial it fits in a tweet • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/n7k00 ]Jul 23 21:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624316859421077504Jul 23 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz it's been a long time since I went to speak at any conferenceJul 23 21:36
schestowitzI always found that to be a waste of time myself, for several reasonsJul 23 21:36
schestowitzIt's an old habit, like publishing paper, assuming no Internet and paper scarcity; same with gatherings like conferencesJul 23 21:37
cubexyzthe net is a bit nebulous thoughJul 23 21:40
cubexyzanything important should be printed outJul 23 21:41
cubexyzsourceforge isn't 100%, repos disappear, accidents happenJul 23 21:42
MinceRsourceforge is shitJul 23 21:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir VersionJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2FDfNB2Qdh (news.softpedia.com)Jul 23 21:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch to Soon Get a New Mir Version - SoftpediaJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation prices training at $79 inJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 India http://t.co/vqqfHtsF8IJul 23 21:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infotechlead.com | Linux Foundation prices training at $79 in IndiaJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.infotechlead.com) https://t.co/pltOYbj4QHJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Jul 23 21:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Training Kicks Off $79 Pricing for India | Linux.comJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSesJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cpVnIVrp0M (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HIG updates http://t.co/efGkVajxDcJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HIG updates | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     France publishes free software procurementJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 templates http://t.co/R3D1r3vGBBJul 23 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France publishes free software procurement templates | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Passwords and Settings for ArkJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CNbHejSkLe (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux andJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Conferences, and Linux FoundationJul 23 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Training for India http://t.co/3fwXDMyzZnJul 23 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded Linux Conference, Premier Linux and Open Source Conferences, and Linux Foundation Training for India | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624323377126203392Jul 23 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz well historically I would not speak at confs that were not free/open to public, so rarely did so in US generallyJul 23 22:03
schestowitzWhat about libreplanet?Jul 23 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How I finally got permission to use my ownJul 23 22:06
TweetTuxMachines                 computerJul 23 22:06
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/mvKEwEgvMB (opensource.com)Jul 23 22:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Jay LaCroix shares his Linux story | Opensource.comJul 23 22:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/W8tIvP3DyTJul 23 22:06
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 22:06
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Jul 23 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:06
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cubexyzit's interesting that all these conversion stories seem to be from win-some-vesion to LinuxJul 23 22:12
cubexyzthe true story of what happened is more like this:Jul 23 22:14
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cubexyzBell Labs Unix -> BSD -> SunOS/AT&T Unix Sys V/and derivatives Jul 23 22:16
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cubexyzthen later on MinixJul 23 22:16
cubexyzafter that then LinuxJul 23 22:16
cubexyzso this experience of win98 to Linux isn't universalJul 23 22:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSesJul 23 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/FiT5jZIMFi (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 23 22:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | LXC Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaJul 23 22:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port onJul 23 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                 TwitterJul 23 22:17
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/MnPDjMyjbU (linux.softpedia.com)Jul 23 22:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Feral Interactive Is Teasing New Linux Port on Twitter - SoftpediaJul 23 22:17
cubexyzit's just sad that so many folks' first computer experience was some version of windowsJul 23 22:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.17.4 http://t.co/iKKNhTgfIpJul 23 22:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.17.4Jul 23 22:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624327240923222016Jul 23 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz that was among the rare exceptions ;. I had spoken at a few of them actually.Jul 23 22:18
cubexyzXerox had a multi-lingual system in the 1980sJul 23 22:18
cubexyzIBM VM/SP didn't crash, VMS didn't crash, TOPS-20 sameJul 23 22:19
cubexyzwin95 was positively awfulJul 23 22:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The battle between open-source and proprietaryJul 23 22:20
TweetTuxMachines                 software for drone developmentJul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eRehrgUuJp (sdtimes.com)Jul 23 22:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | The battle between open-source and proprietary software for drone development - SD TimesJul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux: man-pages-4.01 is releasedJul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cef56ihwxrJul 23 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-man-pages.blogspot.co.uk | Linux man-pages: man-pages-4.01 is releasedJul 23 22:21
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MinceRso was winblows nt, macos and m$-dosJul 23 22:21
MinceRand so's lendowsJul 23 22:21
cubexyzthere's no lendows yet Jul 23 22:21
cubexyzlet's keep it that way :)Jul 23 22:21
MinceRthere are several distributions of lendows alreadyJul 23 22:22
MinceRin chronological order: fedora, mageia, opensuse, arch, coreos, rhel, sles, ubuntu, debianJul 23 22:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328015992860673  https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/624328218779103232Jul 23 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz also when youre in an oppresive country it can be liberating going places that have real freedom and regard for human dignityJul 23 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz libreplanet is always an excellent eventJul 23 22:23
schestowitzUS is not so low in the list, but low for Western country. Also, it's how it treats foreign countries that's most appalling.Jul 23 22:23
msb_PC-DOS wasn't bad.  You could program in assembly, BASIC and C, do color graphics, network via modem, modify the OS by intercepting system-call interrupts with your own code.  It was like a minicomputer.Jul 23 22:25
MinceRit didn't do half of what an os is supposed to doJul 23 22:25
MinceRit did not abstract the hardware at allJul 23 22:25
msb_Not what an OS does today, but it did what a minicomputer, like the LINC or PDP-8, did then, only much better.Jul 23 22:26
msb_And much cheaper.Jul 23 22:27
msb_IBM-PC was a great little machine.Jul 23 22:27
*TweetTuxMachines @lsinger favourited 'The battle between open-source and proprietary software for...'Jul 23 22:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Passwords and Settings for ArkJul 23 22:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/X5e1i8bgJd (www.aelog.org)Jul 23 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aelog.org | Passwords and Settings for Ark | aelogJul 23 22:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The GNOME 3 Human Interface Guidelines wereJul 23 22:27
TweetTuxMachines                 released just under a year ago."Jul 23 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fNSxcEhpZw (blogs.gnome.org)Jul 23 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2015/07/23/hig-updates/ )Jul 23 22:28
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msb_There was lots of good software for it, too.  XTREE filemanager, BRIEF editor, and a great C compiler and runtime system whose name I can't remember.  Not MS-C; that was so buggy you always had to run it with the optimizer turned off.Jul 23 22:32
MinceRborland? watcom?Jul 23 22:33
MinceRdjgpp?Jul 23 22:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A detailed history of Android — from 2003 toJul 23 22:33
TweetTuxMachines                 today http://t.co/IgIkf1f1m4 (www.cio.com)Jul 23 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | A detailed history of Android — from 2003 to today | CIOJul 23 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How I use Android: App designer and AndroidJul 23 22:33
TweetTuxMachines                 blogger Liam Spradlin http://t.co/tVGIZi01dnJul 23 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | How I use Android: App designer and Android blogger Liam Spradlin | ComputerworldJul 23 22:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerworld.com)Jul 23 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn'tJul 23 22:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Need http://t.co/HfuE7k1P02 (www.forbes.com)Jul 23 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Android TV Review: Just What Your TV Doesn't Need - ForbesJul 23 22:33
msb_Right, Borland!Jul 23 22:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/624332203548348416Jul 23 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Going from 64mb to 384mb must have been amazing. It makes me smile and think of my early computing breaking and fixing it.Jul 23 22:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora Engineering team opening.Jul 23 22:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org | Fedora Engineering team opening. - The Grand FallacyJul 23 22:40
TweetTuxMachines@RamiSilawi      RT: @tuxmachines: @fedora Engineering teamJul 23 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 opening. http://t.co/RoAzZ0zbOsJul 23 22:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Ubuntu-ready Type 6 Compact module"Jul 23 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eFarqnjSV8 (linuxgizmos.com)Jul 23 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged Broadwell Type 6 COM loads up on USB, PCIe ·  LinuxGizmos.comJul 23 22:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 open source storage solutions that might beJul 23 22:41
TweetTuxMachines                 perfect for your company http://t.co/wfLuGmqe62Jul 23 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 open source storage solutions that might be perfect for your company | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.17.4 http://t.co/0k4P5BoG2uJul 23 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.17.4 | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Software Commons http://t.co/KgQ5CRyDJGJul 23 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Commons | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung launches additional informationJul 23 22:41
TweetTuxMachines                 services for Tizen TV http://t.co/Dm6tkDeffsJul 23 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches additional information services for Tizen TV | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:41
cubexyzmsb_, ripping off CP/M and Kildall to create QDOS, which was used to make PC-DOS, MSDOSJul 23 22:47
cubexyzmakes it kind of badJul 23 22:47
cubexyzwe should have went to Unix much earlier but the hardware wasn't quite thereJul 23 22:48
msb_Programming was much simpler.  To put a dot on the screen you wrote the color code into the byte or half-byte corresponding to the x and y coordinates, and there it was.  Now you have to go through so much middleware and toolkits I wonder if it's any faster, even with the cpu clock hundreds of times faster.Jul 23 22:48
MinceRwe could have went to unix much earlier, if ibm's management weren't a bunch of corrupt idiotsJul 23 22:48
MinceRmsb_: now programs can share a display, handle a far greater variety of GPUs and displays, take advantage of 2D and 3D acceleration, and be kept from crashing each other or the OS.Jul 23 22:49
cubexyzI can go directly to xlib if necessaryJul 23 22:49
msb_Kildall was too busy flying his plane that day to respond.Jul 23 22:50
MinceRmust have been extremely urgent, to make m$-dos acceptableJul 23 22:50
cubexyzif I want to go back to hardware registers I have my Amiga for thatJul 23 22:50
msb_MinceR: yes, but with a single user and a single type of hardware you didn't need all that versatility.Jul 23 22:50
cubexyzmsb_, also we have freedos these days which is FOSSJul 23 22:51
MinceRmsb_: even with a single user, access control and memory protection are usefulJul 23 22:51
MinceRand i have many types of hardwareJul 23 22:51
cubexyzyes, MMUs are good :)Jul 23 22:51
cubexyzthe ability to run a web browser, irc, and other utilities simultaneously is a big bonusJul 23 22:53
msb_Every biochem lab I worked in had one kind of minicomputer.  I had one kind of microcomputer.  We did fine.Jul 23 22:53
MinceRuh huhJul 23 22:53
msb_Yes, the Internet is a very good thing for humanity.Jul 23 22:54
cubexyzI like Minis, I still program them albeit via emulationJul 23 22:55
msb_MinceR: I don't know whether many your responses are positive or sarcastic.Jul 23 22:55
MinceR:>Jul 23 22:55
cubexyzand there is value in learning simpler operating systemsJul 23 22:56
cubexyzmodern ones are so complex that it makes learning some things difficultJul 23 22:56
MinceRespecially the ones that were "designed" by people who worship unnecessary complexityJul 23 22:57
cubexyzalso the IBM PC BIOS is well understoodJul 23 22:59
MinceRwhich means it had to goJul 23 22:59
msb_With the Web we finally have effective freedom of speech, with which we can reach millions of people for about $10/month for website hosting.Jul 23 22:59
MinceRthe web is being closedJul 23 23:00
msb_How?Jul 23 23:00
MinceRhtml5 supports DRM and recommends patent-encumbered video codecsJul 23 23:00
MinceRalso, blobsJul 23 23:00
cubexyzMinceR, there's an important historical precedent with the IBM PCJul 23 23:00
MinceRindeedJul 23 23:00
MinceRmultiple onesJul 23 23:00
cubexyzfor the earliest version of the BIOS one used intel utilities to assembly it, not microsoftJul 23 23:01
MinceRthe first(?) computer that was friendly to cloningJul 23 23:01
cubexyzshortly after version 1.0 it switched over to microsoft