IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: August 2nd, 2015-August 8th, 2015

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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413987	Aug 02 05:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A year ago #microsoft did a lot to pretend that it was 'fighting' for #privacy and look what we've got now... #vista10 spying monster		Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	They had to research privacy in order to beat it."	Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	"^haha so true"	Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6414355	Aug 02 05:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISPs: #Netneutrality rules are illegal because #Internet access uses computers http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/isps-net-neutrality-rules-are-illegal-because-internet-access-uses-computers/ got it?		Aug 02 05:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com \| ISPs: Net neutrality rules are illegal because Internet access uses computers \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/nbvkl ]		Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	"What? Before the internet telecommunications weren’t information related? People farted into their telephone and sent blank telegrams and telexes to one another? No wonder we’re so backward. If only we had known then…"	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	Next take - before the internet, computers didn’t transmit to one another?	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	ffs internet is a certain network architecture.	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	They’re taking the piss, really, they must be.	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	Desperate to discriminate	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6414067	Aug 02 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The West making #censorship almost synonymous with #china (and #russia increasingly) a clever ploy to blind or bias its own population		Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	The West has always had censorship.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Govt represents the rich i.e. business so not necessary for govt to do what business can do itself - eg propaganda and censorship.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	With thousand years experience also smarter - releases secrets when it doesn’t matter, pied-piper protest movements and parties - eg Occupy, Anarchism - Allows black/lgbt/etc-consciousness, thus stopping working-class consciousness.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Inth early 1950s, suicide, pornography, homosexuality etc. illegal. Only work in civil service if you declare that you have never been member of fascist or communist party - details of relatives wanted too.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Privy council, establishment, clubs, public schools → oligarchy? Of course - but learned discretion, because…	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	To see real nature of our society look at pre-WW2, better pre-WW1 society.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Russian revolution and then USSR victory WW2 changed our society so oligarchy (=capitalism) had to restrain itself, be more discrete, hide ugliness (at home, not abroad)	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Oligarchs now revenging as did aristocracy after Napoleon’s defeat.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Plus ça change.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	'	Aug 02 05:42
oiaohm	schestowitz: there is a general rule in abusive releations ships . Is most of the time what they accuse you of doing they are doing.	Aug 02 05:51
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413401	Aug 02 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If economic #espionage "because national security" or "because terrorism", then capitalism is terrorism?		Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	"And nobody saw the irony in the word “Commonwealth”."	Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	What British calls occupation	Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413427	Aug 02 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any government propaganda, citing government (as only source), is about as credible as a corporation's claims about its own products		Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	"check funding (no, I wasn’t thinking of EFF, but neo-con think tanks, various “democracy” ngos working for colour revolutions - and a very much longer list)"	Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Hi Roy,	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	I just wanted to say thanks for keeping Framasphere lively and interesting.	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Regards,	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Amazigh	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Glad that people find it useful, that's what motivates me...	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6407474	Aug 02 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only positive 'reviews' I've seen so far of #vista10 were not reviews. They were advertisements published by longtime Microsoft boosters		Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	bill gates got a prime interview with the bbc when vista sales slumped - a newsreader interviewd him - gates praised vista and no awkward questions from the interviewer - they would have had to pay millions for such advertising, but like ukip, microsoft got it free.	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	Maybe we’ll see that again esp. since the bbc must redeem itself with the tories.	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	BBC? People still watch it?	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413402	Aug 02 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This is why #london #police at the behest of #gchq et al. is still besieging Julian #assange http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/31/9078327/nsa-japan-surveillance-mistubishi-mitsui-economic-espionage #uk #secrecy		Aug 02 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theverge.com \| New leaks show NSA targeting Japanese ministers and energy companies \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/nbvpv ]		Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	Ecuadorian gov should sue UKGov/police for stalking, molestation etc. Visitors, neighbours too maybe.	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	Assange not a danger to UK public. Hysteria.	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	Hiding behind the europl/interpol facade, pretending to obey intl' law	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413408	Aug 02 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk #dailyfail continues its villainous and libellous attack on Edward #snowden http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3181595/Now-s-Edward-Snowden-comic-book-man-stole-1-7-MILLION-classified-documents-revealed-NSA-s-monitoring-program-subject-graphic-novel.html inciting the masses against justice		Aug 02 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| Now it's Edward Snowden the comic book as NSA leaker becomes cartoon \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/nbvq3 ]		Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	Suing for libel is a weapon which Snowden et al should consider.	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	Just as China, Iran might consider suing USgov for damaging their image and thus their corporate interests. Iraq could sue - no WMD. Would be fun turning tables. US must provide evidence which can withstand court scrutiny.	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 06:01
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413380	Aug 02 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Secret State still isn't doing a good job pretending to care for women, LGBT, minorities. Tries to recruit some to save face.		Aug 02 06:01
schestowitz	"Window dressing. Kafka called himself the company jew: the company had many jewish customers so hired a jew to not seem anti-semitic. Just one, of course."	Aug 02 06:01
schestowitz	That's marketing	Aug 02 06:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6407787	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Windows 10 includes keylogging spyware, on by default." -DaemonFC, former #Microsoft MVP, now at #techrights		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	"I would call having the software included at all, a crime. It should be user installed. Having it on by default is an aggravated crime. No excuses there."	Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6411793	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Windows10 Spies on Almost Everything You Do, Unless You Opt Out http://sputniknews.com/us/20150731/1025283047.html no, even then it spies on many things		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	"#JustSayNo to #Windows10"	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> sputniknews.com \| Windows 10 Spies on Almost Everything You Do, Unless You Opt Out / Sputnik International [ http://ur1.ca/nbvrd ]		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	"parenti on the struggle for history"	Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413432	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pardoning #clapper for lying to Congress (a felony?) but not pardoning #snowden for saying the truth http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/no-pardon-for-nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-says-us-government-10427525.html		Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk \| No pardon for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, says US government - Americas - World - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/nbvnt ]		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9dd32d001ae3013347fd36bd34085139	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigbash@joindiaspora.com: Hello Diaspora Alpha!		Aug 02 06:05
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6414871	Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cecil the lion's brother #Jericho shot dead on SAME day #Zimbabwe bans hunting http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cecil-lions-brother-jericho-shot-6178481		Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.mirror.co.uk \| Cecil the lion's brother Jericho 'shot dead' on SAME day Zimbabwe bans hunting - Mirror Online [ http://ur1.ca/nbvmj ]		Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	My understanding is that the Daily Mail at least has something that is loosely based on actual news. Sortakinda like Fox/Faux News in the U.S.	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	The National Inquirer has nothing of the kind. The closest it comes to news is gossip. And when that isn’t juicy enough, they just make shit up.	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417360	Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blocking ad networks with named http://linsec.ca/blog/2015/08/01/blocking-ad-networks-with-named/ infesting the whole Web these days. I block most.		Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	"Been doing this for years, basically since the day I first installed BIND DNS on my home server. Best adblocker ever."	Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linsec.ca \| Blocking ad networks with named \| linsec.ca [ http://ur1.ca/nc0uj ]		Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417453	Aug 02 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't agree with someone? Say they work for #putin http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/how-a-u-s-think-tank-fell-for-putin.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Beast		Aug 02 18:18
schestowitz	"Is it better working for Obama or Cameron?"	Aug 02 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.thedailybeast.com \| How a U.S. Think Tank Fell for Putin - The Daily Beast [ http://ur1.ca/nc0uw ]		Aug 02 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org \| The Daily Beast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nc0ux ]		Aug 02 18:18
schestowitz	Depends on the reader/audience	Aug 02 18:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417129	Aug 02 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to paint #china as Islamic (at AOL) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dilip-hiro/china-silk-road-pakistan_b_7895716.html?utm_hp_ref=business&ir=Business while also ignoring that it's #uk occupying sea and islands in that area		Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| China Muscles Way Into the Indian Ocean Through Its Silk Road Link With Pakistan \| Dilip Hiro [ http://ur1.ca/nc0vi ]		Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	So single-minded was Reagan in expelling the Soviets from Afghanistan	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	No, the tactic was to get them in there in the first place and to keep them there - their Vietnam - done by Carter and Zbigniew Brezinski.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	History Corrected—U.S. Wanted Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27c/467.html	Aug 02 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hartford-hwp.com \| History Corrected—U.S. Wanted Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan [ http://ur1.ca/eg3xs ]		Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	Twice in the fall of 2014, the Chinese attacked submarines docked at Sri Lanka’s newly opened, $500 million Colombo South Container Terminal, built and majority-owned by the state-run China Merchant Holdings.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	He means attack-submarines - he calls all chinese subs “attack-subs”, US subs are, presumably defence or “well-wishing” subs :)	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	Quite a bad print error that… (contradicts the linked article) - i.e. nobody attacked nobody.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	Subtle writer - excuse irony - weasle words - “muscle” as verb.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilip_Hiro	Aug 02 18:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Dilip Hiro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Aug 02 18:21
schestowitz	Poor attacks in the media invited potent responses in social media :-)	Aug 02 18:22
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417476	Aug 02 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hidden Origins of #Syria 's Civil War http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32134-hidden-origins-of-syria-s-civil-war "nearly a quarter million people have perished..blame..interventionists"		Aug 02 18:23
schestowitz	"it has its interventionists dimension…but in reality its a descent culture and a life experience that Arabs and middle east are passing slowly evolving maybe…but patriarchy, fundamentalism,sectarianism, stagnant minds, Islamic fascism was already there, and other class and social problems. as an arab I dont know where it will end"	Aug 02 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.truth-out.org \| Hidden Origins of Syria's Civil War [ http://ur1.ca/nc0wd ]		Aug 02 18:23
schestowitz	I guess it can end when one side wins and neither side if propped up by Putin or Obama or whoever.	Aug 02 18:23
schestowitz	*is	Aug 02 18:24
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417428	Aug 02 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #MusicTube Review - Use #YouTube as Your Source of Music http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/musictube-review-488224.shtml streaming is spying though, better download		Aug 02 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.softpedia.com \| MusicTube Review - Use YouTube as Your Source of Music - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nc0wq ]		Aug 02 18:24
schestowitz	"can you elaborate on how streaming is spying ?? thnx"	Aug 02 18:24
schestowitz	Spies (ads, government, etc.) gather a list of what you listen to, when, how long for, which part of audio/video...	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417122	Aug 02 18:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top Pentagon Intel Officer: yes, we destroyed #iraq https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/31/top-pentagon-intel-officer-iraq-may-not-come-back-as-an-intact-state/ like #libya - reconstruction and democracy/freedom not the goal		Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> foreignpolicy.com \| Top Pentagon Intel Officer: Iraq ‘May Not Come Back as an Intact State’ \| Foreign Policy [ http://ur1.ca/nc0x0 ]		Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	That was their publicised idea in the first Iraq war, but they then decided to keep Saddam - and Iraq.	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	A long time ago there was a map posted here of how West Asia will look like - can’t find it unfortunately	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	Well, many oil fields and US army bases :-)	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417140	Aug 02 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US govt never minded Americans killing rare lions before Cecil – #WikiLeaks document http://www.rt.com/usa/311264-wikileaks-cecil-us-govt/ 'hunting' in the culture		Aug 02 18:26
schestowitz	"Wanna be Hemingways, Hemmingway thought death (of others) enhanced life - so did Churchill - they got that from their schoolboy comics."	Aug 02 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.rt.com \| US govt never minded Americans killing rare lions before Cecil – WikiLeaks document — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/nc0x8 ]		Aug 02 18:26
schestowitz	"Article says on Wikileaks. Went to Wikileaks; don’t see it."	Aug 02 18:26
schestowitz	"A 2008’s classified memo signed by James D McGee, the-then US ambassador to Zimbabwe, has revealed that the US government knew about and approved of its citizens going trophy hunting to South Africa, says WikiLeaks."	Aug 02 18:27
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TechrightsBN	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75	Aug 03 05:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/627963894896689152 https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/627964276498673664	Aug 03 06:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @intifada @JustMel1963 @schestowitz what @DrGilbert says of the connection of the practice of medicine and social justice is also important		Aug 03 06:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @intifada @JustMel1963 @DrGilbert @schestowitz but also why medicine is now so politicized, and practitioners under attack by corporations		Aug 03 06:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/627966087708168192	Aug 03 06:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @Ian56789 @schestowitz there is a much simpler way to disable privacy issues in #vista10; don't install it (or any other vistas), ever		Aug 03 06:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6418712	Aug 03 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Wikileaks Vs. #Facebook		Aug 03 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by marlon@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f8f50c6b64e4214e18d2.jpg		Aug 03 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by marlon@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f8f50c6b64e4214e18d2.jpg		Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	"	Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	You won’t find me on Facebook:	Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	https://www.fsf.org/facebook	Aug 03 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org \| Mark Zuckerberg is TIME Magazine's Person of the Year? Where's the "dislike" button? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	"	Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6418200	Aug 03 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Hillview man arrested for shooting down drone; cites right to #privacy http://www.wdrb.com/story/29650818/hillview-man-arrested-for-shooting-down-drone-cites-right-to-privacy		Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	"I good use for a gun."	Aug 03 06:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.wdrb.com \| Hillview man arrested for shooting down drone; cites right to pr - WDRB 41 Louisville News [ http://ur1.ca/nc124 ]		Aug 03 06:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6379580	Aug 03 06:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Founder of #GNU bestows blessing upon open source crowdfunding site http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/founder-of-gnu-bestows-blessing-upon-open-source-crowdfunding-site/ #CrowdSupply		Aug 03 06:31
schestowitz	"He didn’t. This news is false."	Aug 03 06:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com \| Founder of GNU bestows blessing upon open hardware-focused crowdfunding site \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/nc6kz ]		Aug 03 06:31
schestowitz	"Purism has been caught by lies after lies."	Aug 03 06:31
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/woppywop/status/628270545340121088	Aug 03 19:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@woppywop: @schestowitz @qapsl0ck and how many innocents killed ?		Aug 03 19:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/628272368411123712	Aug 03 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz Out of 7 iPhones owned I've had to have 3 replaced, although saying that also had a faulty Samsung, HTC, and Nexus phone.		Aug 03 19:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/nilecoy/status/628302592058130437	Aug 03 21:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nilecoy: @schestowitz the algorithms they use for automated takedowns must be pretty complex if they're capable of "Good faith belief."		Aug 03 21:37
MinceR	:D	Aug 03 21:38
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/628311821875814400	Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Hacktivists congratulate Jon Stewart via Donald Trump's website @ruskin147 @schestowitz @maitlis @bbclaurak http://t.co/ek79hYQmhy		Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Hacktivists congratulate Daily Show's Jon Stewart via Donald Trump's website • The Register		Aug 04 01:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/628332484250443776	Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Macs can be remotely infected with firmware malware that remains after reformatting @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/dHiPjqMRN3		Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.pcworld.com \| Macs can be remotely infected with firmware malware that remains after reformatting \| PCWorld		Aug 04 01:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422370	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A #fraud by any other name, University of #Phoenix http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/a-college-without-classes/400115/ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=university+of+pheonix+fraud&gbv=1&sei=Tbq_VabgL9CP7AbSlZDoCg		Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theatlantic.com \| Colleges Cutting Lectures, and Costs - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/ncj1w ]		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.google.co.uk \| university of pheonix fraud - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ncj1x ]		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	“It costs her just $5,000 a year.”	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	At least price is more or less reasonable, for US standards.	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"“I have alopecia universalis, which incidentally is the motto of the University of Phoenix.” – paraphrase of Dave Kennedy a Boston-based comic"	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422402	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Charles #Koch calls for unity against 'corporate welfare' http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/02/politics/charles-koch-corporate-welfare/ haha, #hypocrisy		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"How is he a hypocrite? Most claims of corporate welfare by the Kochs are not true."	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> edition.cnn.com \| Koch calls for unity against 'corporate welfare' - CNNPolitics.com [ http://ur1.ca/ncj24 ]		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	They benefit from tax cuts etc.	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6420813	Aug 04 03:29
schestowitz	"nice, seems he listened to the critics who told him to open source his stuff"	Aug 04 03:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Dotcom will put some some cash together and we’ll see yet another Dotcom owned online storage site" http://fossforce.com/2015/08/dotcoms-foss-cloud-plans/		Aug 04 03:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossforce.com \| Dotcom's FOSS Cloud Plans \| FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/ncj2e ]		Aug 04 03:29
schestowitz	I was among them	Aug 04 03:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422550	Aug 04 03:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ExtremeTech explains: Why you should (or shouldn’t) root your #Android device http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/211314-extremetech-explains-why-you-should-or-shouldnt-root-your-android-device #linux		Aug 04 03:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.extremetech.com \| ExtremeTech explains: Why you should (or shouldn’t) root your Android device \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/ncj2j ]		Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	The whole notion of not allowing the end user to have root access to what is surely a mini computer is like selling someone an actual computer and saying sorry, you can’t have admin rights.	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	I rooted my S3 and installed a custom OS ages ago. That reason was glaringly left out of the article.	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422188	Aug 04 03:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I haven't been writing much about #systemd but having used it against my will for 3 months, thumbs down https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74589		Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> bugs.freedesktop.org \| Bug 74589 – systemd segfaults if no cgroups are available [ http://ur1.ca/j3zxv ]		Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	" Lennart Poettering 2014-04-04 14:56:43 UTC	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	Well, cgroups-less kernels are explicitly not supported by systemd."	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	I still have hope for GNU/Hurd.	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:31
MinceR	yeah, he hopes to kill hurd	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422506	Aug 04 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In some nations, wearing #police uniform is sign of authority simply because it means one might carry weapons and can use them sparingly		Aug 04 03:32
MinceR	multiserver microkernel systems are antithetical to what poettering prefers: a huge blob.	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	"It’s surprising how unarmed people prefer not to upset armed people."	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	In the USA, if you take out your phone in a situation with the police, the chances of you being shot by a top notch “elite”, experienced officer is 20pc, or 1 in five. With a new officer, i.e. a “rooky”, the chances are three times higher 60pc.	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	http://www.forcescience.org/performingunderpressure.html	Aug 04 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forcescience.org \| Performingunderpressure [ http://ur1.ca/ncj33 ]		Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	This is scary stuff. In the UK it's nothing like that; most cops are unarmed.	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	MinceR: yeah	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	MinceR: I started writing more about systemd	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	thanks in part to link you post to IRC	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	But I don't want to enter this war too deeply	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	neither does RMS	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	:)	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	RMS already has	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	Because it's a bit like civil war	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	maybe unwittingly	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	imagine if RMS chastised systemd	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	that would be the right thing to do	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	Red Hat and many systemd fans would pick on him	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	staying silent would also have been correct	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	redcrap and the cancerd fanboys can go fuck themselves	Aug 04 03:34
MinceR	they can use winblows if they love its design so much	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	I didn't notice if he made an opinion on it	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	my understanding is, he said he doesn't use it	Aug 04 03:34
MinceR	he said it's [L]GPL therefore free	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	and therefore not too qualified to comment	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	though when he started gnu he made copies of UNIX programs that were modular	Aug 04 03:34
MinceR	then he shouldn't have commented.	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	this philisophy is compromised by systemd	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	also hurd... supposed to be modular as a microkernel	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	the recent bullshit about gnu not being unix is even worse	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	apparently gnu's windows now	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	MinceR: technically it's free software	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	and he's right on that	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	technically so's the nv driver	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	the issue isn't freedom as per 4 freedom	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	except not really	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	but unix philosophy	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	free software is designed by the 4 freedoms, not licenses	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	s/designed/defined/	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	and systemd doesn't respect the freedom of the user	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	it's forced on the user via lock-in and designed to be hard to improve or replace	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	it does in the sense of the 4 freedom	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	lock-in by itself should be a clear red flag	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	that's like a loophole against freedom	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	like microsoft calling .NET "free"	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	if microsoft did the same, they'd be attacked for it	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	or Mono doing the same	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	but when redcrap does it, it's acceptable?	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	the issue there has much to do with API and platform dependency	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	or framework creep	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	[03:36] <MinceR> if microsoft did the same, they'd be attacked for it	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	Yes	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	but remember that RMS didn't do much to criticise mono, either	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	and then there was gnu dot not	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	RMS focuses on freedom	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	so I wouldn't press him on issues such as systemd	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	remember he cited techitghts in gnome mailing lists expressing concerns about gnome becoming mono-dependent	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	which was true at the time, with dbus...	Aug 04 03:38
MinceR	software patent traps also infringe on users' freedom	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	so he did worry about dependencies creep	Aug 04 03:38
MinceR	the point is, if the FSF can't be relied on in this case, what good are they anymore?	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	systemd doesn't seem to introduce patent threat	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	unlike mono	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	systemd worries me cause of back doors or bug doors	Aug 04 03:38
MinceR	they don't seem to care about freedom anymore, they just want a gratis windows clone.	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	I wrote about that when debian picked the systemd route	Aug 04 03:39
MinceR	(which systemd is becoming ever more)	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	MinceR: maybe mono/xamarin	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	I don't think systemd folks want windows clone	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	they just like the structure that resembles some subsystems	Aug 04 03:39
MinceR	funny how gnome becoming mono-dependent was an issue but gnome and debian and kde becoming systemd-dependent isn't	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	right	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	different scenario	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	yeah, they just want all the design flaws of windows reimplemented	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	same with samba	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	they have unique issues	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	they want huge, opaque, unmanageable blobs locked into each other	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	they want client-side decorations	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	they want binary logs	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	patents, framework creep, the entity to benefit (Red Hat vs Microsoft), freedom...	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	thing is, they can have that already	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	microsoft will happily sell it to them!	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	ms doesn't have that	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	yes they do	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	windows is binary at the program level	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	windows is badly architected nonfree software	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	it has client-side decorations	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	also it's controlled by a ruthless critical entity	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	it has binary logs	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	red hat ain't	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	yes it is	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	their actions show their nature	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	LP is no bill gates	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	the trickery via gnome dependencies and gnome people to hijack debian	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	I don't hate him	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	but PA made a mess at the time	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	the pressure they exert on Linus to force kdbus into the kernel	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	and I don't need per-application volume control	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	redcrap is no better than microsoft	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	lots of software that expects OSS/alsa, e.g. xmms, ceased to work	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	red hat is far better	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	red hat did a lot for gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	redhat _used to be_ far better	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	since the 90s	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	redhat _used to do_ a lot for gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	a lot of the code we use was made there, we can't just ignore that	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	red hat OS (centos) runs my sites	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	this http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html	Aug 04 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.freedesktop.org \| [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader [ http://ur1.ca/ir0kd ]		Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	and this http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/03764.html	Aug 04 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: careful review of kdbus [ http://ur1.ca/n2vc5 ]		Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	is not for gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	these are clear attacks against gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	I was thinking of hovsepian yesterday	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	if microsoft did the sorts of things redcrap is doing nowadays, they would be rightly criticized for them	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	and shunned	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	not sure why, maybe cause of his daughter pursuing some thing with the camera	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	but redcrap gets away with everything	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	but what novell did was far worse	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	"ip peace of mind", helping Ballmer imply that red hat users "have an obligation to compensate us"	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	redcrap did good things to get leverage	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	we need to choose our villains wisely	Aug 04 03:44
MinceR	now it's time for them to use that leverage	Aug 04 03:44
MinceR	and they use leverage just like microsoft	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	red hat worries me less, even for the nsa relationship	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	ms couldn't do what red hat does	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	it doesn't have the same leverage over linux dev	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	you know me, MinceR, I'm no buddy of Red Hat	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	I was last fighting with their staff just days ago	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	over my criticism of Red Hat book promotion for Jim W	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	in opensource.com	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	but I don't consider red hat worth fighting	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	i saw it	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	and not just for PC reasons	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	well, if people won't fight redcrap, we'll lose gnu and linux to them	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	and if people still won't fight redcrap, we'll also lose the bsd-s to them	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	I mean, I got chastise for my articles in 2013-14 saying that might have back doors	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	!google byfield tinfoil	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[1] - Off the Wall \| Bruce Byfield's blog \| http://brucebyfield.com/	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[2] - Bruce Byfield \| Off the Wall \| http://brucebyfield.com/author/brucebyfield/	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[3] - November \| 2014 \| Off the Wall \| http://brucebyfield.com/2014/11/	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[4] - Tin Hats Vs Red Hat » Linux Magazine \| http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Tin-Hats-Vs-Red-Hat	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	see [4]	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	and once redcrap has a monopoly on unix on pc, m$ only needs to revoke their uefi certificate	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	Well, Byfield, long sworn 'enemy'	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	and boom, you don't get to boot anything other than winblows on uefi "pc"s	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	Alas, red hat is one we need to pressure to behave	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	re systemd too	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	and on intel you can't even replace uefi with coreboot	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	because there's intel boot guard	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	but not to attack them, it would only help Apple, Microsoft...	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	the very fact that red hat know they're watched makes them behave better	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	then they get to bribe politicians to demonize people who use non-uefi pc-s and other open hardware	Aug 04 03:47
schestowitz	on systemd their policy is to "no comment"	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	bring up child porn or whatever, make a law to make those computers illegal	Aug 04 03:47
schestowitz	and to distance themselves, making it look also like an Intel and "fedora" project	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	welcome to the brave new dystopia!	Aug 04 03:47
schestowitz	not just redhat.com addresses are involved it in anymore	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	redcrap is not behaving anymore	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	uefi won't win	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	Intel will try	Aug 04 03:48
MinceR	uefi has already won	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	but general-purpose computers are requested by some govs	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	Intel is in any case on the decline	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	my brother in law works there (over a decade now) and now they train Indians	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	Intel is just trying to keep afloat	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	they'll die with UEFI one day	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	Some Chinese companies will take over	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	systemd won	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	for sure	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	all the major distros are stuck with it	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	and there is no going back	Aug 04 03:49
MinceR	then those governments will have general purpose computers	Aug 04 03:49
MinceR	what will slaves^Wcitizens have?	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	all the other init systems (which systemd ain't, it's more like a system-wide cancer) are just digital trash now	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	telescreens?	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	for the museum	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	remotely administrated web terminals?	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	MS has no leverage	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	they do	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	in hardware they're losing it	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	it slipped away	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	they have the keys to the uefi kingdom	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	not all	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	and all the governments let them get away with this	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	chromebooks for instance	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	not all governments	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	China, Russia, Germany	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	big governments	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	there's not even a pretense of antitrust or antimonopoly anymore	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	vista 10 will discourage even more govs	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	are _all_ chromebooks coreboot?	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	not signed by MS	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	i've seen ads of a vista10 "upgrade" on some chromebooks recently	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	that's my point	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	if not signed by m$, then signed by the hw makers	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	MinceR: won't work	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	and they don't care about our freedom	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	MS also hopes to convert android devices to windows	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	never worked	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	and MS mobile/phone is dead now	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	so they try their own android malware	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	they only care about the incentives and threats from m$	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	drive, skype, cortana and other sht	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	well, everything m$ tried failed	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	so now they try to kill the general purpose computer	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	they don't know what they're even doing, they lack the leverage they once had	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	and the governments aren't doing anything	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	MinceR: they try	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	with Intel	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	doesn't mean they're succeeding	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	LP kills choices on Linux	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	already it's impossible to buy a laptop with a large hdd/ssd without uefi	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	and by extension Red Hat does too	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	MinceR: look at non-Win laptops	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	they do exist	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	don't pay for UEFI garbage	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	that's what I've been saying for years	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	boycott that crap	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	my wife's laptop cost just 200 pounds	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	dual core, decent HDD, dual head support, etc.	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	and nice hardware	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	came with chrome OS	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	boots very fast, no lockdown issues	Aug 04 03:54
MinceR	yeah, they do exist... outside hungary	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	If you want, I can help ship to you	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	or buy for you	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	afaik there were no eeepc-s sold with gnu/linux here	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	and even finding a chromebook is a challenge	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	warranty the only issue then	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	but i doubt a chromebook has enough mass storage or power for my needs	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	doubt it too	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	my wife doesn't do much except watch video, drupal, etc.	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	email, some work that's not too technical	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	(especially if i want to dualboot gnu/linux and netbsd)	Aug 04 03:57
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schestowitz	netbsd for desktop?	Aug 04 03:59
MinceR	what else?	Aug 04 03:59
MinceR	if redcrap manages to kill gnu/linux, where else can we go?	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	freebsd will be freeosx with launchd	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	netbsd for toasters maybe..	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	openbsd won't do half the sutff the desktop needs	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	pcbsd with kde looks ok	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	pcbsd is freebsd	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	my boss uses bsd	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	therefore it will be freeosx	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	MinceR: but configured differently	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	configuration won't make launchd not suck	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	it also won't take out all the toxic stupidity in the reimplementations of the systemd APIs	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	I guess I have up resisting systemd	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	it's too late	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	we reacted too late in the linux community	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	i certainly did	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	when it was already spreading across the whole body of Linux	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	but if we can get the help of the majority of the kernel developers	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	and people woke up just when ubuntu and debian leaned that way	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	and the majority of at least one DE	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	and after them almost all other distros	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	then we can yet fight back	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	maybe our side will be the fork	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	too late, I think	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	but it can still be what gnu/linux used to be	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	not heard much of the devuan project in the past month	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	it's our last chance	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	and at least we'll have most of the winblows idiots off our back for a while	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	we have others	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	there's slackware, gentoo and most of their derivatives	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	gentoo?	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	arch?	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	has arch moved?	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	of course, we'll need enough people to maintain forks of applications that become dependent	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	arch has fallen long ago	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	gentoo and especially funtoo is resisting	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	they have miniscule market share collectively	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	maybe less than 10% of GNU/Linux	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	(so much it made poettering pissed at gentoo)	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	slackware won't move to systemd unless they have to	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	funtoo is still around?	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	yes	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	slaskware will have to move	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	kde is starting to assume systemd	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	kubuntu already has systemd all over it	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	I use 15.04 right now	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	xfce devs are willing to work with devuan devs	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	and kubuntu commands kde these days	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	they've already accepted a patch to fix a dependency	Aug 04 04:05
schestowitz	much of the development comes from blue systems/kubuntu	Aug 04 04:05
MinceR	lxde/lxqt is probably still sane as well	Aug 04 04:05
schestowitz	I'm unlikely to use these anymore	Aug 04 04:06
MinceR	i'm using xfce and lxde right now	Aug 04 04:06
MinceR	also, there are possibilities of cooperation between gnu/linux and openbsd	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	maybe netbsd also	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	i hope slackware will choose xfce or lxde over kde	Aug 04 04:09
schestowitz	long kde tradition	Aug 04 04:10
schestowitz	they would alienate users if they dodge kde just because of systemd	Aug 04 04:10
MinceR	kde itself has broken their own traditions already	Aug 04 04:10
schestowitz	yeah	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	plasma 5 is a bit of a mess	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	they've gone from reliability and functionality to pointless, unreliable bling	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	and now systemd	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	"Bit" an understatement	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	they should have stayed with qt4 for longer, or something...	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	I think it's maintained closely to Blue Systems too	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	gnome and kde are worthless, the only thing of value in them are some of their applications	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	or who was the owner of qt/trolltech now?	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	After Nokia?	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	certainly that's where the systemd tentacles will attach	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	It's some other company	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	digia.	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	yeah	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	kde just has plasma	Aug 04 04:12
schestowitz	I can run the apps from elsewhere	Aug 04 04:12
schestowitz	rianne runs them from unity now	Aug 04 04:12
schestowitz	there's not much in plasma that I actually need anymore	Aug 04 04:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422241	Aug 04 04:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "iPhone breaks and the S6 gets some light scuffs. It's clear that Apple isn't building these things to last." -Ryan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsyGweP5so		Aug 04 04:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com \| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge VS iPhone 6 Drop Test! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nca60 ]		Aug 04 04:14
schestowitz	"Happened to my oboe too. #plannedoboesolescence"	Aug 04 04:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6420738	Aug 04 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linus Torvalds warns he's in no mood to be polite as Linux 4.2 drags http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/03/linus_torvalds_in_no_mood_to_be_polite_as_work_on_linux_42_drags/ #linux #torvalds		Aug 04 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Linus Torvalds warns he's in no mood to be polite as Linux 4.2 drags • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/ncjdd ]		Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	"lulz"	Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	cult of Torvalds	Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422171	Aug 04 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #systemd development http://i.imgur.com/IdPTkOc.png		Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	"No please, keep ignoring posix, the more tied is systemd to Linux the less likely I might find that aberration elsewhere."	Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6420789	Aug 04 04:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Vendetta Online 1.8.346 MMORPG Available Now for Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, and Android http://news.softpedia.com/news/vendetta-online-1-8-346-mmorpg-available-now-for-linux-os-x-windows-ios-and-android-488308.shtml #games #gnu #linux		Aug 04 04:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com \| Vendetta Online 1.8.346 MMORPG Available Now for Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, and Android - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/ncjdo ]		Aug 04 04:16
schestowitz	"grabbing the game now. Looks like fun."	Aug 04 04:16
MinceR	:)	Aug 04 04:28
MinceR	keeping systemd tied to Linux won't help if people working on OSes with different kernels reimplement the systemd APIs	Aug 04 04:28
schestowitz	I guess hurd will be locked out	Aug 04 04:43
schestowitz	!google freebsd developer likes systemd	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[1] - systemd is obsolete \| The FreeBSD Forums \| https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/systemd-is-obsolete.49372/	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[2] - FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees need for a modern init system with ... \| https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2nhkx9/freebsds_jordan_hubbard_sees_need_for_a_modern/	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[3] - “Has Linux lost its way?” comments prompt a Debian developer to ... \| http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9317-has-linux-lost-its-way-comments-prompt-a-debian-developer-to-revisit-freebsd-after-20-years	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[4] - FreeBSD Plans For The Next Ten Years - Phoronix \| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DMTg0ODE	Aug 04 04:43
schestowitz	see [2]	Aug 04 04:43
schestowitz	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settings	Aug 04 04:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com \| Windows 10: Microsoft under attack over privacy \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/nbp6d ]		Aug 04 04:47
schestowitz	that's our real threat	Aug 04 04:47
schestowitz	shitty OSes that spy	Aug 04 04:47
schestowitz	Android isn't quite as bad as this	Aug 04 04:48
schestowitz	but it shows that linux as the kernel is not enough for freeedom	Aug 04 04:48
schestowitz	if unix and freesw win and we still have drm, firmware erc. then it's not much of a triumpth	Aug 04 04:48
schestowitz	*triumph	Aug 04 04:49
schestowitz	MinceR: redhat CEO propr up cloud computing" http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/innovation/2015/08/02/business-head-in-the-clouds-red-hat-takes-a-high.html?page=all http://wraltechwire.com/jim-whitehurst-highlights-regional-tech-calendar/14808147/	Aug 04 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-upstart.bizjournals.com \| For Raleigh’s largest public company, Red Hat, future growth hangs in the cloud [ http://ur1.ca/ncjm8 ]		Aug 04 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wraltechwire.com \| Red Hat's Whitehurst takes stage Aug 27; more regional events fill tech calendar :: Editor's Blog at WRAL TechWire [ http://ur1.ca/ncjm9 ]		Aug 04 04:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/dictvm/status/628320759392403456	Aug 04 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dictvm: FUD sells. http://t.co/GNUfnShiiP		Aug 04 05:20
schestowitz	FUD?	Aug 04 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Vista 10 (Windows 10) Has NSA Back Doors and Front Doors \| Techrights		Aug 04 05:20
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422598	Aug 04 08:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post?		Aug 04 08:39
schestowitz	"Sheesh, Scroogle everywhere. Microsoft flunkies can’t keep up with free software, so they use it themselves. That’s funny, given their hatred of your freedom, but predictable if you remember their motto is, “what’s mine is mine and what’s your is mine.”."	Aug 04 08:39
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schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6425000	Aug 04 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@harryhaller@nerdpol.ch: _at the CIA, the tail wagged the dog, that America’s real business was covert activities, not intelligence collecting and analysis_ [chalmers johnson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalmers_Johnson) "[sorrows of empire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgnKZ5UgYS0)" CIA not NSA #usa #cia #empire #destabilisation #chalmersjohnson #sorrowofempire		Aug 04 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org \| Chalmers Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g2o8g ]		Aug 04 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com \| The Sorrows of Empire - Chalmers Johnson - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ncnml ]		Aug 04 14:17
schestowitz	That's probably the man who first introduced me to the magnitude of mass surveillance almost a decade ago	Aug 04 14:17
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6425144	Aug 04 14:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #twitter lies about the number of people #nsa "follows". 106? If only... why are people "following" it anyway? Spam accounts (bought)?		Aug 04 14:18
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/628648102551924736	Aug 04 20:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@angrymofo: @skandhurkat @schestowitz I'll stick with Win7 for the time being		Aug 04 20:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426422	Aug 05 14:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Giant porn stash turned a Windows 10 upgrade into every man’s nightmare https://bgr.com/2015/08/03/windows-10-porn-screensaver/ #vista10 #microsoft #windows		Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"seamlessness - isn’t it wonderful?"	Aug 05 14:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> bgr.com \| Windows 10: Porn screensaver surprises man and his wife \| BGR [ http://ur1.ca/ncoc4 ]		Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	“his wife woke him up asking why their computer’s screensaver was cycling through the man’s ostensibly private porn photo collection”	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	Someone does not understand which software respects privacy and which one not.	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"dont normal people make different user accounts at least? ;)"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"hilarious . . . oh wait… "‘Ain’t love grand?’" o_o"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6424792	Aug 05 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From the same paper/network that promotes #nsa figures, who also promote back doors and front doors http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-04/hackers-force-carmakers-to-boost-security-for-driverless-era		Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bloomberg.com \| Hackers Force Carmakers to Boost Security for Driverless Era - Bloomberg Business [ http://ur1.ca/nczk2 ]		Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	“If your car breaks down, you’d much rather have a system that’s completely connected so your carmaker knows you’ve broken down, and knows where you’re supposed to be going, has a list of authorized garages and can even talk to you from control room,”	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	yeah, right, er…	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	Remove the "“If your car breaks down"" part because it's an always-on system	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6428131	Aug 05 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Slack starts accepting requests for beta access to its new Linux client http://venturebeat.com/2015/08/04/slack-starts-accepting-requests-for-beta-access-to-its-new-linux-client/ #gnu #linux #slack		Aug 05 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> venturebeat.com \| Slack starts accepting requests for beta access to its new Linux client \| VentureBeat \| Business \| by Jordan Novet [ http://ur1.ca/nczkb ]		Aug 05 14:08
schestowitz	"and all your private confidential data stored on their servers, right? fantastic"	Aug 05 14:08
schestowitz	All of it?	Aug 05 14:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426384	Aug 05 14:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saw a driver near home struggling to start going when the light turned green. Was busy near gearbox. Turned out she was messing w/ phone.ಠ_ಠ		Aug 05 14:09
schestowitz	"Damn phones"	Aug 05 14:09
schestowitz	causing fatal accidents, because of their dumb, selfish useds [sic]	Aug 05 14:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6424795	Aug 05 14:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Personal Computer That Beat Apple (For a While) http://time.com/3968790/tandy-trs-80-history/ "On Aug. 3, 1977..."		Aug 05 14:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> time.com \| The Tandy TRS-80: The Computer That Beat Apple (For a While) [ http://ur1.ca/nczky ]		Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	"anted to have - apple was too much of a “toy” for me - I worked on IBM medium sized (GSD) computers at the time. Across the road was a hobby electronic store with processors stuck on boards with hex digital displays and keypads :) The 8080 processor was talked about as the possible standard. But to buy the TRS80, I think I had to buy it from the USA - it was in any case expensive - looking at that price one must remember that we	Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	earnt much less in those days so $1000 was much more than it is today… The computer I always wanted :) sigh."	Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	It didn't have UEFI 'secure' boot	Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426416	Aug 05 14:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is like going 9 years into the past http://www.maxhost.org/other/bsod-microsoft-vista.jpg		Aug 05 14:11
schestowitz	"Do Windows still have the #bsod?"	Aug 05 14:11
schestowitz	They look different. Microsoft had to improve them because they happen so often.	Aug 05 14:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6425144	Aug 05 14:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #twitter lies about the number of people #nsa "follows". 106? If only... why are people "following" it anyway? Spam accounts (bought)?		Aug 05 14:12
schestowitz	"On twitter you can follow the nsa, in the real world the nsa follows YOU!"	Aug 05 14:12
schestowitz	NSA is Soviet dream come TRUE!	Aug 05 14:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426977	Aug 05 14:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CBS Evening News Reports On Historic Climate Policy Without Mentioning #ClimateChange http://mediamatters.org/video/204749		Aug 05 14:13
schestowitz	"Shows you what “competitive” wages really are, something like the Dominican Republic. This is how rich and powerful people would have the rest of us live."	Aug 05 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mediamatters.org \| CBS Evening News Reports On Historic Climate Policy Without Mentioning "Climate Change" \| Video \| Media Matters for America		Aug 05 14:14
schestowitz	lower wages=more employment/iiving uncertainty=more obedient workers	Aug 05 14:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6428131	Aug 05 17:51
schestowitz	"for whatever you’d use this #slack thing for, i dunno, i don’t use it (but some guys at the local makerspace do)"	Aug 05 17:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/628977157491048448	Aug 05 18:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: It's time we owned our own data @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/rYIJfOtllt		Aug 05 18:19
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schestowitz	just had some downtime :/	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[22:57] <schestowitz> varnish is not working, I tried starting it	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[22:58] <schestowitz> [root@www varnish]# /etc/init.d/varnish status	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[22:58] <schestowitz> varnishd dead but pid file exists	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[22:59] <schestowitz> restarting	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[22:59] <schestowitz> just restarting the process didn't have an effect and it was not serving anything	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:01] <schestowitz> hmm... server has not come back yet, after 'reboot'	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:02] <schestowitz> it was serving no site anyway for about 40 minutes	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:03] <schestowitz> maybe fsck'ing... will phone up shortly if it's not accessible by ssh....	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:05] <xxxxxxxx> Hi! Did you just ring?	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:05] <schestowitz> yeah.	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:05] <schestowitz> varnish stopped working at around 22:40 my time	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:05] <schestowitz> no, 22:20 actually, can't say for sure	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:06] <xxxxxxxx> Whoah...I didn't reboot www	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:06] <xxxxxxxx> It is doing fsck right now	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:06] <schestowitz> yes, that's what I was guessing	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:06] <schestowitz> it stopped serving anything at all	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> varnishstat was all at 0	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> [root@www varnish]# /etc/init.d/varnish restart	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> Stopping Varnish Cache: [FAILED]	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> Starting Varnish Cache: [ OK ]	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> [root@www varnish]# ps aux \| grep varn	Aug 05 23:12
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> root 12218 0.0 0.0 93104 3384 ? Ss 14:53 0:00 sshd: varnish [priv]	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> varnish 12221 0.0 0.0 93104 1856 ? S 14:53 0:00 sshd: varnish@pts/1	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> varnish 12222 0.0 0.0 66140 1560 pts/1 Ss 14:53 0:00 -bash	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> root 12468 0.0 0.0 61248 760 pts/1 S+ 14:57 0:00 grep varn	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:07] <schestowitz> root 24825 0.0 0.0 111944 876 ? Ss Jul31 0:02 /usr/local/sbin/varnishd -P /var/run/varnish.pid -a 10.0.10.11:80 -T localhost:6082 -f /etc/var	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:08] <schestowitz> [root@www varnish]# /etc/init.d/varnish status	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:08] <schestowitz> varnishd dead but pid file exists	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:09] <xxxxxxxx> Coming back up now...	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	[23:10] <schestowitz> hope you're ok with me trying to fix this as I did, my intention was to restore service to all sites asap	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/629047740903890945	Aug 05 23:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dawnbazely: @Harryslaststand @schestowitz Tnx for your tweets. As ever, Roy, you broaden my horizons. OK, now it's back to re-watching #StarTrek TNG.		Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	I used to watch that :-)	Aug 05 23:13
schestowitz	" I closed the window before I completely read your messages earlier. Did you reboot www?"	Aug 05 23:17
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schestowitz	" Ok, at least we know why it rebooted. I'm going to setup a dedicated varnish system soon. I need to phase out that old www server."	Aug 06 07:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/thickey/status/629159330080755713	Aug 06 08:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thickey: @schestowitz @MikeRogers0 they are a bit light on details here, but if you don't jailbreak or load dodgy apps I think you are going to be ok		Aug 06 08:06
schestowitz	No, all phones have a universal back door. The second OS can take over the primary one from the tower.	Aug 06 08:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/629188370988711936	Aug 06 09:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz I presume your tweet is tongue-in-cheek?		Aug 06 09:09
schestowitz	No, I think the strike is justified	Aug 06 09:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/thickey/status/629191402476425216	Aug 06 09:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thickey: @schestowitz @MikeRogers0 I would like to say I am more open to conspiracy theories than most people… but let me give you this tin foil hat!		Aug 06 09:09
schestowitz	You need to do some reading http://www.osnews.com/story/27416	Aug 06 09:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.osnews.com \| The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone		Aug 06 09:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/629218471528763392	Aug 06 10:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cryptoland: @schestowitz: Swiss #cryptography firm helped #NSA during Cold War http://t.co/eYAsllRyfs #CryptoAG		Aug 06 10:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.swissinfo.ch \| Swiss cryptography firm helped NSA during Cold War - SWI swissinfo.ch		Aug 06 10:43
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 11:09
schestowitz	I follow you in Diaspora*, and I thought if I could add you as a contact in LinkedIn.	Aug 06 11:09
schestowitz	Thank you.	Aug 06 11:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 11:10
schestowitz	A whole new meaning to linkedin "connections"	Aug 06 11:10
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629322437092638720	Aug 06 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Got 7 comments on my article about #vista10 and not a single one pointed out errors. All were personal attacks/immature insults.		Aug 06 19:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/629359146043875328	Aug 06 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz you're not the only one... It's sad that people do that...		Aug 06 19:34
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6432374	Aug 06 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #JDate claims to own the concept of connecting 2 people based on mutual attraction http://www.vox.com/2015/8/5/9100621/jdate-jswipe-software-patent trolls http://techrights.org/2015/07/27/patents-roundup-2015/		Aug 06 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.vox.com \| JDate claims to own the concept of connecting 2 people based on mutual attraction - Vox [ http://ur1.ca/ndfd5 ]		Aug 06 19:57
schestowitz	would have to prove that hitherto dating agencies were based on mutual apathy or repulsion :)"	Aug 06 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Patents Roundup: Technicolor, Alice, Voip-Pal, Fitbit, Marijuana Patents, and JDate \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ndfdf ]		Aug 06 19:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	These super-rich people have no sense of shame, have they? To them, class war (looting by the oligarchs/plutocrats) is ‘Free Market’	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	(ibid techrights)	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	This is something which is not discussed. Elites do not care about admiration - with power one does not need “approval” to achieve ones end. It is the brute force principle. The mafia was a farce about government and elite structures - it laid it bare.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	we underlings have no power - we must sell ourselves, gain approval - and need peer respect for support.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	Our mistake is always to assume that elites think likewise. “Democracy”, “I speak for you”, is part of that cruel deception.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	When Philby is called a traitor - it is not meant he betrayed his country (a place) and its people - it was meant he betrayed his class, hence his response that he was no traitor because he never belonged (KGB told him to keep opinions secret and talk/act as elitist).	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	Treason is defined as against King (elite class) and country (a PLC) - not against the well being of the people.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	http://www.thefreedictionary.com/patent	Aug 06 19:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thefreedictionary.com \| Patent - definition of patent by The Free Dictionary		Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	Patent: the instrument by which the U.S. government grants title to public land. src	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	now:	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	the instrument by which government grants title to that which was public.	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	"the instrument by which the U.S. government grants title to public land property (incl. thought and information)."	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	"sorry for hijacking, but subject is fundamental to whole concept of property rights - rights to deprive - which is what theft really means. Hence “Property is theft”."	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	I liked what Native Americans used to say about "property". That's a subject for another day, enough maybe for a whole book because of the vast scope of "property" these days (slavery, land, ideas, even water)	Aug 06 20:01
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/_5i9sTW35IM/UPXF2d_jPbgJ	Aug 06 20:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ndg17 ]		Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	One of the best articles on the subject of built in back/front doors in	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	Windows 10.	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/07/25/back-doors-and-front-doors/	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	The full article is on the site. I post snips below but encourage	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	everyone to visit the site to read the full article.	Aug 06 20:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Vista 10 (Windows 10) Has NSA Back Doors and Front Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n9sgj ]		Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	""Summary: Vista 10 to bring new ways for spies (and other crackers) to	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	remotely access people’s computers and remotely modify the binary files	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	on them (via Windows Update, which for most people cannot be disabled)	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	MICROSOFT never cared about security. A former Windows manager, Brian	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	Valentine, said explicitly that Microsoft products “just aren’t	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	engineered for security.” Last year we also showed how back in the 1990s	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	Bill Gates and his staff had already collaborated quite intimately with	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	the NSA, well before Snowden’s NSA and GCHQ leaks helped confirm this	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	(with hard evidence and subsequently media reports).	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), which is unfortunately headed by a	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	guy from Microsoft, is going into bed with the NSA right now, despite the	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	negative publicity that may accompany/come with such a move. Microsoft,	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	much to our surprise, is still working with the NSA on Windows, and it	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	does this also for Vista 10. One new article about Microsoft’s purchase	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	of an Israeli (i.e. spy-friendly as we explained says ago) company says	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	that “[a] big reason for this is the company’s collaboration with the	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	National Security Agency (NSA).”""	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	LOL. Another "kwalitie" article from TechRights.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	> The full article is on the site. I post snips below but encourage	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	> everyone to visit the site to read the full article.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	What a pathetic way to get page hits. I guess every penny counts.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	these are known trolls	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	for many years	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"ROFL!!! It's like me citing the National Enquirer for international news. "	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	ROFL!!! Oh man, the guy has serious mental issues. He really seems to	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	believe his own bullshit.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	It's always the same trolls and sockpuppets	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	snit:	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	HOLY CRAP.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Wow. Yeah, he is utterly delusional. Meanwhile here is how he fares in an	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	actual conversation about Linux:	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/TechBytes56>	Aug 06 20:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tmp.gallopinginsanity.com \| TechBytes56 [ http://ur1.ca/ndg1m ]		Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Maybe I will post it to YouTube at some point for those who fear their	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	system is at great risk from "unknown" sites.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Thanks to NSA trolls and their determined Neo Nazi tactics to infected OSen	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	like windopws and many other products such as those built by Cissco are all	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	being systematically ditched across the world.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	At least 35 billion dollars worth of orders.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Probably a lot more hidden from scrutiny.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Hitler would have been proud of the NSA troll's gagging orders	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	to hand over information. You can't talk about if if you are served	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	with such an order. You can be fined a few million dollars a day	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	until you do hand it over. All legally in a Neo Nazi run 'democracy'	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	that Hitler would have been proud.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	In USA today, NSA trolls can order jewish decendants who opposed Hitler	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	to surrender all their wealth, gas them legally, and anyone who opposes	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	could be fined and imprisoned and waterboarded legally.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Anyone who points at an NSA troll Neo Nazi, would themselves be	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	target of harassment. You would loose your job, have no further	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	assistance from government, your rights to privacy, banking, etc etc is	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	gone. No disclosure or log of who did what and why and prosecure and	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	discipline and publically shame the wrong doing fsckers.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Thats because in USA you do not elect Government, the government	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	elects you, and if you harass anyone in government, then you	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	are talking your chances aren't you?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	You are probably wondering how you too can become an NSA troll and do	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	all these fantastic things to your people by now to avoid having	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	these things done unto you by now?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Never heard it called Vista 10 before and Internet Explorer 11 can be turned	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	off because it has been superceded with the Edge Browser.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Huh?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	What the fuck is Vista 10? why are you posting about the Vista 10 Honeywell security system control panel?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	what a Putz that Bhandari be!	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	It must be the windopws marketing that misled gullibles like you.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Pista 10 is the latest incarnation of the original Pista which	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	was a complete disaster. So they could't call it Pista 2	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	after changing around the graphics otherwise nobody would buy.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Pista 10 is the same Pista 0.1 they bought out as Pista 1.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	And the holes and NSA troll infected malware has not	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	superceded your imagination of superior edges in your browser.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	If that proves to be a brown trouser moment, just laugh it off.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Shit, I missed that one!	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Schestowitz seems to be undergoing some sort of mental break down of	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	sorts.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	I'll bet he is the OP on in this thread. Could also be one of his	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	shills who typically poison blogs like Zdnet with their vitriol.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Worse!	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	At least the National Enquirer has decent pictures!	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Vista 7, 8 and 10 is what the world's most delusional imbecile, Dr. Roy	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Schestowitz, calls Windows. He runs a shitty and ugly website which	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	divulges propaganda about Microsoft and other corporations and uses its	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	own articles as evidence for whatever they say.	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	Yeah, all that techrights.org has is a plethora of pictures of	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	Schestowitz everywhere on what has to be the ugliest web site I've seen	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	in my life (and I've been on the net since 1994). I've never seen a	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"journalist" so in love with his own image before. He's clearly a	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	narcissist.	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	same two trolls all the time	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	keeping the libel coming	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	One of the worst websites I have ever seen.	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	You click on the article and it takes you to the same page?	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	And quite often he quotes his shills, like iophk or something like	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	that, as a source. As if these losers have any credibility. That's	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	when he is not referring back to his own articles as "proof".	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	Clearly the guy is missing a few nuts and bolts.	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	The "doctor" can claim whatever the Hell he wants as long as he writes	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	an article "proving" that claim. He can say that Apple executives eat	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	aborted baby fetuses and that Microsoft sacrifices the first-borns of	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	each of their employees and he'll think that it's believable because	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	that claim will link to another article of his which is written	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	something like this:	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"Micro$haft employees are told that the sacrifice of their first-born	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	will lead to increased profits. The company's policy follows Apple's	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	practice of eating aborted baby fetuses which insiders claim is the	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	secret of fruit company's success."	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	In his mind, the existence of that article, as poorly written and	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	subjective as it might be (notice the use of Micro$haft) makes it real.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	I'm convinced that he writes such propaganda and supports free software	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	not because he likes it but because he believes that using it makes him	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	some sort of a rebel or a "bigger man" and distracts people from	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	noticing how geeky his voice is (seriously, listen to him talking, it's	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	comical).	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	He is another "advocate" who is part of the problem, instead of the	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	solution.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	Anyone, and I mean anyone reading that site for the first time will	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	either assume it's a dark, satire site or that the guy is just plain	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	nuts.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	He is constantly complaining that he is being DDoS'd by people trying	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	to bring the site down.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	Of course he never offers any proof of this.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	It wouldn't surprise me to learn that at least in part, it's people	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	in the Linux community who are sick and tired of him making them look	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	like idiots.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	The rest are no doubt related to those he has libeled and slandered.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	Now RMS smearing too:	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	""	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	And yes, he does complain about it. He even complained it on Diaspora	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	where a lot of like-minded imbeciles thought that there was a conspiracy	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	against him because of the "very high influence" he has in the world of	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	software technology. Like you said, he never offered evidence. We just	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	had to believe that his repulsive site was being attacked by	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	corporations left and right because the information it held was so	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	dangerous to them.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> It wouldn't surprise me to learn that at least in part, it's people	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> in the Linux community who are sick and tired of him making them look	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> like idiots.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	>	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> The rest are no doubt related to those he has libeled and slandered.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	Schestowitz is not making the Linux community look as bad as Stallman	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	is. I just had to unsubscribe from his RSS feed because I was fed up of	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	how he supported the most unsupportable stuff and how the feed itself	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	constantly reset itself to the point that you would suddenly have	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	hundreds of "unread" articles in his feed with stuff that you had	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	already seen twice or thrice before. No other RSS feed every fucked up	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	the way his routinely did. Today, he lended his support for Planned	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	Parenthood which just had two videos come out showing how the non-profit	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	organization profited from the sale of body parts from aborted children.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	One of the bitches representing the organization actually said that she	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	wanted to buy a Lamborghini from the profits of sales of unborn	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	children's ligaments. It's bad enough that that repulsive excuse for a	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	human being supported pedophilia but supporting the sale of unborn	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	children's body parts _for profit_ is where I draw the line with him. In	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	case any of you are interested, here are his words:	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	<https://www.stallman.org/archives/2015-may-aug.html#26_July_2015_(Planned_Parenthood_video)>	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	"A Planned Parenthood staffer discussed the expenses and methods for	Aug 06 21:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.stallman.org \| 2015: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/ndg3s ]		Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	obtaining fetal tissue for research, and took a somewhat flip tone. Or	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	at least it appears that way, in an edited video made by an antiabortion	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	fanatic.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	If the video accurately represents what the staffer said, it doesn't	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	indicate anything wrong in what he does. However, the theocrats will try	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	to spin the flip tone into a real wrong."	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	The fact that he would call the person an "antiabortion fanatic"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	shouldn't be excused to begin with, but the fact that he says that "it	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	doesn't indicate anything wrong in what he does" is exactly what I	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	needed to discard this guy as a poor excuse for a man. It's no shocker	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	to me that no woman would ever marry such a disgrace.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	Surely it's not necessary to be told this? Microsoft has a market	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	share, and business practices, that literally would not be tolerated in	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	any other kind of business.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	There can only be one motive for the world's governments to permit this	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	to continue.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	And it is safe to assume that Open Source software is similarly	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	compromised, or it would be illegal to use.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	> Otherwise CUSTOM Linux is safe but Windoze already comes implanted with	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	> various Govt backdoors, they nailed just the tip of an iceberg. Drop	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	> your smartphone before it's too late ....	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	What does the smartphone have to do with Windows? Also, can you _prove_	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	that the government has backdoors in Windows? Hint: an article from	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	techrights.org is not evidence at all since the information on it comes	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	from Roy Schestowitz's imagination.	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/wKY7B_C9oU4/MMUxx_iFoJMJ	Aug 06 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/n70vk ]		Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	I think there are four actual real trolls there, using many nyms	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	mentioning me here too, to libel again https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/OqtvCIWlrSE/Y952e9VMJCYJ	Aug 06 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/n70ve ]		Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/m-s9nDUa5Tk/e3t3Yei2PAAJ	Aug 06 21:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/n70tm ]		Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	She/he posts in alt.os.linux.ubuntu. Adding the group.	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	It couldn't happen to a 'nicer person'. Roy Schestowitz has been	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	practicing his yellow journalism apparently unimpeded for years. It	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	was only a matter of time before those he attacks fought back. Good	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	for them.	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	What does that idiot do for a living anyway?	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	Seems with the hundreds of hours he is spending battling those who	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	are attacking him, he would have little if any time left for a	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	legitimate 9 to 5 job.	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	Something isn't adding up here.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Just thought you would want to know. But I'm sure	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	you know already, right Roy Schestowitz?	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	What a fucking pussy whiner you are.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Looks like you've bit off far more than you can chew	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	this time spammer boy. I hope the EPO and every	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	other organization you have slandered and libeled	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	over the years, sues your ass.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	You post articles based long on speculation and	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	short on verifiable proof and you don't expect	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	people to retaliate?	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	You must be an even bigger asshole than you appear	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	to be, at least based upon your picture.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/?stories	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/2jIO1rOc3pY[1-25]	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Techrights \| Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom		Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Made it after I was on Roy Schestowitz's show to demonstrate specific	Aug 06 21:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ndg5p ]		Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	examples of where he was wrong (and, to be fair, some where I was, too). At	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	the bottom I link to some older movies and PDFs which show how bad it was	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	before then.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Nadella grooming and libel about FOSS people	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	As far as I know, Nadella hasn't:	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- advocated voluntary pedophilia (like Wretched Stallman)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- offered to wipe someone's dick (like Chris "Ass Storm" Ahlstrom)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- changed his gender (like Rex Ballard did to become Debbie Ballard)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- cleaned toilets for a living (like "Wideload Porkster" William Poaster)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- found himself unable to utter a sentence without using curse words	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	(like chrisv)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- lied profusely and supported his lies with fabricated evidence based	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	on erroneous interpretation of articles (like "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- believed that Windows is still running atop DOS (like "JEDIDUMBASS"	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	JEDIDIAH)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6427079	Aug 06 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google attempt to mimic #facebook is ending http://mashable.com/2015/08/02/google-plus-history/ http://jimlynch.com/internet/the-death-of-google/		Aug 06 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mashable.com \| Inside the sad, expensive failure of Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/ndghv ]		Aug 06 21:46
schestowitz	"referring to the Mashable article. The Jim Lynch post doesn’t seem so bad. Just a guy’s opinion."	Aug 06 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> jimlynch.com \| The death of Google+ \| Jim Lynch [ http://ur1.ca/ndghw ]		Aug 06 21:46
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	This kind of reporting really gets to me. First of all, the “_____ is dead” line is so worn out. Second, everyone talks about market share this, user share that, X is never going to make it ahead of Y and Z, etc. Well, I don’t give a shit about that, and chances are, neither does Google. They probably didn’t set out to kill Facebook. They just wanted to get in on the social network data mining game. These social networks compete,	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	to be sure, but they also coexist.	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	These kinds of reports always act like the authors want a monopoly. It’s just bad news.	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6433634	Aug 06 21:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My wife has been using #unity for a month (after 2 years of #kde ) but it's still not fit for purpose. Then again, neither is #plasma5		Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	"“There are far more WMs, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”: Shakespeare. He used Ratpoison :)"	Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	"seriously though… revisiting twm etc. is worthwhile."	Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	Too barebones	Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6430830	Aug 06 21:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Since 2001 my hours have become less social, my breaks shorter" http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/against-the-tube-strike-then-try-spending-15-years-as-a-train-driver-like-i-have-10440588.html if you don't fight, the rich will fight #classwar		Aug 06 21:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk \| Against the Tube strike? Then try spending 15 years as a train driver like I have - Comment - Voices - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ndgj2 ]		Aug 06 21:50
schestowitz	"I don’t suppose that’s what’s being printed in the sun and wail - unions must get out leaflets to the public - that was the only way I found out about the real causes of the Heath era miners strike."	Aug 06 21:50
schestowitz	I thought of these strikes, but know too little of them	Aug 06 21:50
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6430877	Aug 06 21:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not many occupations allow their staff to organise for effective action, not even if they form union. #tubestrike helps others by extension		Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	In the 70s ? waste collectors striked on behalf of nurses, who w/couldn’t strike.	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	strikes are hard - only pay is from the union, but has more sense of fighting/doing than protesting.	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	The rich cover their heart with a wallet - you have to attack their wallet, rather than plea to their heart.	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6432455	Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft site: Can you run #Linux containers on platform with NSA back door? http://windowsitpro.com/windows-server-2016/can-you-run-linux-containers-windows-server yes, if dumb http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA		Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> windowsitpro.com \| Can you run Linux containers on Windows Server? \| Windows Server 2016 content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/ndgjd ]		Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	"I wonder why someone would like to do that."	Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ]		Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	Some people thought the CD tray is a cupholder...	Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417428	Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #MusicTube Review - Use #YouTube as Your Source of Music http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/musictube-review-488224.shtml streaming is spying though, better download		Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.softpedia.com \| MusicTube Review - Use YouTube as Your Source of Music - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nc0wq ]		Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	"So what you’re saying is, by streaming you are letting yourself be spied upon. Not that you are spying. Right?"	Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	"I imagine that… I meant if maybe it something technical with streaming makes it vulnerable"	Aug 06 21:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VHS2DVDza/status/629399014127960064\	Aug 06 22:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VHS2DVDza: @RamiSilawi @libreoffice @ubuntu @schestowitz @linuxfoundation @tdforg d/l now x64 .deb		Aug 06 22:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6432297	Aug 07 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux smartwatch offers luxury stylings and a novel interface http://linuxgizmos.com/linux-smartwatch-offers-luxury-stylings-and-a-novel-interface/ #linux		Aug 07 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux smartwatch offers luxury stylings and a novel interface · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/ndpnd ]		Aug 07 18:23
schestowitz	"still using cloud … I may stick with a pebble one day"	Aug 07 18:23
schestowitz	"and to think that they gat paid to dish them out ,can`t cheat karma though ,what ever you do will come back to you"	Aug 07 18:24
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6433614	Aug 07 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Got 7 comments on my article about #vista10 and not a single one pointed out errors. All were personal attacks/immature insults.		Aug 07 18:24
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schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing	Aug 08 00:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Astroturfing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ndsn6 ]		Aug 08 00:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:20
schestowitz	I think Trisquel is excellent.	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	It’s still a little tricky for average users, but I’ve had a wonderful time with Trinity16. Newer versions of Trinity remove the special environment problem older versions do, but I ran into a few serious bugs in the PIM that ruined notifications for me and went back. Having KDE’s old PIM, Kicker, and Palm sync without having to give up newer KDE has made me a happy camper for the last year or two. With an automated shutdown and new	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	names for Trinity programs, this would be a good desktop for anyone.	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6437404	Aug 08 00:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just been stopped in the street again by #mormon missionaries; turns out one who's from #utah had her dad work for #novell before #hovsepian		Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	:facepalm	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	This is one of those times when I’m tempted to ask what the Mormon hierarchy was thinking. I just don’t dare.	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	Maybe they didn't know it was a rough neighbourhood , but it's no excuse. One of them was quite attractive and could get abused by some lads.	Aug 08 00:23
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/112weet/status/629937374940786688	Aug 08 12:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@112weet: #Android #TechBuzz 🐝✨ @TechNovatie https://t.co/BxQeyM1v3R		Aug 08 12:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Why #Android 'Fragmentation' Is A Good Thing http://t.co/lyoH7UyaO8 good article		Aug 08 12:05
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629920382582132736	Aug 08 13:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: GNU Spotlight with Brandon Invergo: Nineteen new GNU releases! http://t.co/C9JxCxT90Q #gnu #fsf		Aug 08 13:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.fsf.org \| GNU Spotlight with Brandon Invergo: Nineteen new GNU releases! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Aug 08 13:14
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629921389097689088	Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #apple no longer believes it can restore #ios market share? http://t.co/NrgyKcz7vs #android #linux		Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mashable.com \| Apple job posting suggests more apps for Android a possibility		Aug 08 13:15
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629922069191491584	Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #FCC urges carriers to turn off copper networks, upgrade to fiber http://t.co/5M7EgeMNPa #internet		Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com \| FCC urges carriers to turn off copper networks, upgrade to fiber \| Ars Technica		Aug 08 13:15
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629922792780234752	Aug 08 13:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Raspberry Pi Geocache kit http://t.co/x4z26DAcbH #raspi #linux		Aug 08 13:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ovidiu.geekaliens.com \| Raspberry Pi Geocache kit \| My world		Aug 08 13:16
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629926671362195456	Aug 08 13:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: The #Wine development release 1.7.49 is now available https://t.co/ge6xQKaX4f #unix #linux		Aug 08 13:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.winehq.org \| WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.7.49 is now available.		Aug 08 13:18
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629927949215625216	Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Important #Firefox 39.0.3 Security Update Arrives in #Ubuntu http://t.co/VjTdbkD2Vo derivatives also. #mozilla #security		Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com \| Important Firefox 39.0.3 Security Update Arrives in Ubuntu - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:19
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629928468063617024	Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Bq #Ubuntu Phones Now Available for US Customers http://t.co/YFeC4aYfoP #linux		Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com \| Bq Ubuntu Phones Now Available for US Customers - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:19
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629929392437858308	Aug 08 13:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #FreeBSD 10.2 RC3 Is Out for Testing, Final Release Arrives on August 31 http://t.co/1ipQ41EpVt #bsd #unix		Aug 08 13:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com \| FreeBSD 10.2 RC3 Is Out for Testing, Final Release Arrives on August 31 - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:20
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MrMirth/status/629785176453857280	Aug 08 13:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrMirth: Celebrating 100 years of Frank Sinatra, born in 1915. The world's most popular singer. http://t.co/9g7C642bUi		Aug 08 13:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrMirth: Celebrating 100 years of Frank Sinatra, born in 1915. The world's most popular singer. http://t.co/9g7C642bUi		Aug 08 13:21
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629934611037061120	Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Celebrate #Ubuntu Touch's New Film Scope and Win an Ubuntu Phone http://t.co/DHg87mxcdY #linux		Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com \| Celebrate Ubuntu Touch's New Film Scope and Win an Ubuntu Phone - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:22
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629935157609414656	Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Second Snappy #UbuntuCore 15.04 Stable Version Now Ready for Raspberry Pi 2 http://t.co/pnBnUNl42y #ubuntu #raspi		Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com \| Second Snappy Ubuntu Core 15.04 Stable Version Now Ready for Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:22
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629935458357800960	Aug 08 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Calling diversity "fragmentation". http://t.co/bu9BTZqxc5 http://t.co/Nx7jpq1uRW and war is "for peace"...		Aug 08 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> venturebeat.com \| Android fragmentation report: There are now 24,093 distinct devices, up 28% from last year \| VentureBeat \| Mobile \| by Paul Sawers		Aug 08 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com \| Biggest difference between Android and iPhone - Business Insider		Aug 08 13:23
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629971231605981185	Aug 08 13:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Beautiful day for outdoor sports and gardening. Back to the interwebs now...		Aug 08 13:24
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mf1337/status/629609995638849536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629972353053757441	Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mf1337: Microsoft is Openwashing Proprietary Software by Conversion http://t.co/t9v9srUEyj		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft is Openwashing Proprietary Software by Conversion \| Techrights		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Some better #fedora sites being worked on http://t.co/r6XPC7M9Xi		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> anuradhanotes.blogspot.co.uk \| Anu notes: Progress with integration		Aug 08 13:25
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629972502517805056	Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Fedora 23 Alpha — release set for Tuesday http://t.co/Dqj96YUhz9 #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fedoramagazine.org \| F23 Alpha is Go, fun at Flock, Firefox, Rawhide, and more - Fedora Magazine		Aug 08 13:25
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629983158147096576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629983192586579968	Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #ios not safe, it has back doors http://t.co/uLfYTxEQ3F #apple just calls these "diagnostics"		Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.ibtimes.com \| Android To Get Monthly Security Updates, But Apple iOS 'Walled Garden' Likely Still Safer		Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: OPM wins Pwnie, Google on Android security, DoJ on CFAA: Black Hat 2015 roundup http://t.co/3nRPRGV13d #security #blackhat		Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.zdnet.com \| OPM wins Pwnie, Google on Android security, DoJ on CFAA: Black Hat 2015 roundup \| ZDNet		Aug 08 13:27
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629986813541785600 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629987916727623680	Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: At #apple it's branding over substance http://t.co/v0HxStQXsc		Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.slashgear.com \| Android iPhone clone shown as “iOS 9″, iFans love it - SlashGear		Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Oracle updates complaint against Google to highlight Android's success http://t.co/AxycUyO4W3 trying to derail #freesw		Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.pcworld.com \| Oracle updates complaint against Google to highlight Android's success \| PCWorld		Aug 08 13:28
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/629981910110994432	Aug 08 13:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz @danielwcooper Shame if so as HTC phones are rather indestructible and quite attractive. Just need newer features.		Aug 08 13:30
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/630058003551662080 https://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/630058174528266240	Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: Only the completely uninformed believe otherwise. Oh, you said that. https://t.co/Z63HErY6yl		Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #US As Corrupt As #Russia , Says Former NSA Exec http://t.co/2hI2W8SufW "Americans believe that [only] Russia is a corrupt"		Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@haniefhaider: @schestowitz No.Jill Stein Green Party voice of true leftist politics but rarely if not at all allowed to speak to the millions of voters.		Aug 08 18:14
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6441029	Aug 08 22:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: At #apple it's branding over substance http://www.slashgear.com/android-iphone-clone-shown-as-ios-9-ifans-love-it-05395785/		Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	yes, there is some truth in your comment. However I think the average user (if there is such a thing) would have trouble integrating their music, TV, laptop and mobile etc. services using Linux.	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	The sad truth is for us non-geeks Linux is not easy in terms of doing the things we want to be able do. A large part of that is integration and sychronisation of services across multiple devices and platforms. In that respect I would submit that Apple are the best of a bad bunch :)	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	"By integrating music do you mean listening to it on iCloud? I have never understood how it is different from streaming on a website; obviously because I haven’t used iProducts or any high end smartphone."	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	"I can listen to and synchronise my music collection on my phone, my laptop and my apple TV connected to my hi-fi. All pretty seamless."	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	"despite all that I am not an apple fanboi!"	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	Streaming is a privacy violation much of the time, for no added value...	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6440402	Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	"I have the Aquaris E5 and I’m actually pretty happy with it.'	Aug 08 22:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BQ #Aquaris #E45 Ubuntu Edition review http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/bq-aquaris-e45-ubuntu-edition-1295353/review/5 #ubuntu #linux		Aug 08 22:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techradar.com \| BQ Aquaris E45 Ubuntu Edition review: Verdict \| TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/ne25i ]		Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	"I have the Aquaris E45 and it’s a very good phone :-)"	Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	If it makes phonecalls, then it does what it's supposed to	Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6441255	Aug 08 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #china IP addresses, just like Western IP addresses, make attempts all the time. #nsa trying to deflect, change focus http://www.biztekmojo.com/001029/secret-nsa-map-shows-widespread-cyber-attacks-us-systems-companies-chinese-government		Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.biztekmojo.com \| Secret NSA Map Shows Widespread Cyber Attacks in US Systems, Companies by Chinese Government [ http://ur1.ca/ne25t ]		Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	Every time I see the US complain of something to me is like a gang complaining about what other gang did to them.	Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	Or maybe these kind of news are propaganda for domestic consumption, not intended for foreigners.	Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6441592	Aug 08 22:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Higher Education Debt Should Be Deductible, Rand Paul Says http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-04/higher-education-debt-should-be-deductible-rand-paul-says?cmpid=yhoo or maybe HighEd shouldn't be massively overpriced?		Aug 08 22:59
schestowitz	"While I agree that wouldn’t help those already in debt."	Aug 08 22:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bloomberg.com \| Higher Education Debt Should Be Deductible, Rand Paul Says - Bloomberg Politics [ http://ur1.ca/ne267 ]		Aug 08 22:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/630138272799305728	Aug 08 23:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz Because what they & do are very different. Like most Pollies in it for the ego & benifits		Aug 08 23:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6438867	Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@harryhaller@nerdpol.ch: Microsoft Crime Persists: [AstroTurfing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing) a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers \| Techrights - http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ __“Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them		Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org \| Astroturfing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ndsn6 ]		Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	Reddit: One of the drawbacks of an Anonymous (sic) network is that agents provocateur and saboteur may easily infiltrate.	Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	One thing that the French Resistance and Communist cells mostly got right were their recruitment procedures and cell structures. Modern dissidents need to think about the matter.	Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/e99i2 ]		Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> web.archive.org \| Microsoft Has Hired People To Make Positive Comments About Xbox One On Reddit, Contractor Says \| Business Insider Australia [ http://ur1.ca/ndsn9 ]		Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mnwj0 ]		Aug 08 23:47
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413987	Aug 02 05:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A year ago #microsoft did a lot to pretend that it was 'fighting' for #privacy and look what we've got now... #vista10 spying monster		Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	They had to research privacy in order to beat it."	Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	"^haha so true"	Aug 02 05:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6414355	Aug 02 05:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISPs: #Netneutrality rules are illegal because #Internet access uses computers http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/isps-net-neutrality-rules-are-illegal-because-internet-access-uses-computers/ got it?		Aug 02 05:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com \| ISPs: Net neutrality rules are illegal because Internet access uses computers \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/nbvkl ]		Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	"What? Before the internet telecommunications weren’t information related? People farted into their telephone and sent blank telegrams and telexes to one another? No wonder we’re so backward. If only we had known then…"	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	Next take - before the internet, computers didn’t transmit to one another?	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	ffs internet is a certain network architecture.	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	They’re taking the piss, really, they must be.	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	Desperate to discriminate	Aug 02 05:40
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6414067	Aug 02 05:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The West making #censorship almost synonymous with #china (and #russia increasingly) a clever ploy to blind or bias its own population		Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	The West has always had censorship.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Govt represents the rich i.e. business so not necessary for govt to do what business can do itself - eg propaganda and censorship.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	With thousand years experience also smarter - releases secrets when it doesn’t matter, pied-piper protest movements and parties - eg Occupy, Anarchism - Allows black/lgbt/etc-consciousness, thus stopping working-class consciousness.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Inth early 1950s, suicide, pornography, homosexuality etc. illegal. Only work in civil service if you declare that you have never been member of fascist or communist party - details of relatives wanted too.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Privy council, establishment, clubs, public schools → oligarchy? Of course - but learned discretion, because…	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	To see real nature of our society look at pre-WW2, better pre-WW1 society.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Russian revolution and then USSR victory WW2 changed our society so oligarchy (=capitalism) had to restrain itself, be more discrete, hide ugliness (at home, not abroad)	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Oligarchs now revenging as did aristocracy after Napoleon’s defeat.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	Plus ça change.	Aug 02 05:42
schestowitz	'	Aug 02 05:42
oiaohm	schestowitz: there is a general rule in abusive releations ships . Is most of the time what they accuse you of doing they are doing.	Aug 02 05:51
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413401	Aug 02 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If economic #espionage "because national security" or "because terrorism", then capitalism is terrorism?		Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	"And nobody saw the irony in the word “Commonwealth”."	Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	What British calls occupation	Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413427	Aug 02 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any government propaganda, citing government (as only source), is about as credible as a corporation's claims about its own products		Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	"check funding (no, I wasn’t thinking of EFF, but neo-con think tanks, various “democracy” ngos working for colour revolutions - and a very much longer list)"	Aug 02 05:57
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Hi Roy,	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	I just wanted to say thanks for keeping Framasphere lively and interesting.	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Regards,	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Amazigh	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	Glad that people find it useful, that's what motivates me...	Aug 02 05:58
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6407474	Aug 02 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only positive 'reviews' I've seen so far of #vista10 were not reviews. They were advertisements published by longtime Microsoft boosters		Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	bill gates got a prime interview with the bbc when vista sales slumped - a newsreader interviewd him - gates praised vista and no awkward questions from the interviewer - they would have had to pay millions for such advertising, but like ukip, microsoft got it free.	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	Maybe we’ll see that again esp. since the bbc must redeem itself with the tories.	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	BBC? People still watch it?	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413402	Aug 02 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This is why #london #police at the behest of #gchq et al. is still besieging Julian #assange http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/31/9078327/nsa-japan-surveillance-mistubishi-mitsui-economic-espionage #uk #secrecy		Aug 02 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theverge.com \| New leaks show NSA targeting Japanese ministers and energy companies \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/nbvpv ]		Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	Ecuadorian gov should sue UKGov/police for stalking, molestation etc. Visitors, neighbours too maybe.	Aug 02 05:59
schestowitz	Assange not a danger to UK public. Hysteria.	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	Hiding behind the europl/interpol facade, pretending to obey intl' law	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413408	Aug 02 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk #dailyfail continues its villainous and libellous attack on Edward #snowden http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3181595/Now-s-Edward-Snowden-comic-book-man-stole-1-7-MILLION-classified-documents-revealed-NSA-s-monitoring-program-subject-graphic-novel.html inciting the masses against justice		Aug 02 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| Now it's Edward Snowden the comic book as NSA leaker becomes cartoon \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/nbvq3 ]		Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	Suing for libel is a weapon which Snowden et al should consider.	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	Just as China, Iran might consider suing USgov for damaging their image and thus their corporate interests. Iraq could sue - no WMD. Would be fun turning tables. US must provide evidence which can withstand court scrutiny.	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 06:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413380	Aug 02 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Secret State still isn't doing a good job pretending to care for women, LGBT, minorities. Tries to recruit some to save face.		Aug 02 06:01
schestowitz	"Window dressing. Kafka called himself the company jew: the company had many jewish customers so hired a jew to not seem anti-semitic. Just one, of course."	Aug 02 06:01
schestowitz	That's marketing	Aug 02 06:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6407787	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Windows 10 includes keylogging spyware, on by default." -DaemonFC, former #Microsoft MVP, now at #techrights		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	"I would call having the software included at all, a crime. It should be user installed. Having it on by default is an aggravated crime. No excuses there."	Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6411793	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Windows10 Spies on Almost Everything You Do, Unless You Opt Out http://sputniknews.com/us/20150731/1025283047.html no, even then it spies on many things		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	"#JustSayNo to #Windows10"	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> sputniknews.com \| Windows 10 Spies on Almost Everything You Do, Unless You Opt Out / Sputnik International [ http://ur1.ca/nbvrd ]		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	"parenti on the struggle for history"	Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6413432	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pardoning #clapper for lying to Congress (a felony?) but not pardoning #snowden for saying the truth http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/no-pardon-for-nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-says-us-government-10427525.html		Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk \| No pardon for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, says US government - Americas - World - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/nbvnt ]		Aug 02 06:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9dd32d001ae3013347fd36bd34085139	Aug 02 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigbash@joindiaspora.com: Hello Diaspora Alpha!		Aug 02 06:05
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6414871	Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cecil the lion's brother #Jericho shot dead on SAME day #Zimbabwe bans hunting http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cecil-lions-brother-jericho-shot-6178481		Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.mirror.co.uk \| Cecil the lion's brother Jericho 'shot dead' on SAME day Zimbabwe bans hunting - Mirror Online [ http://ur1.ca/nbvmj ]		Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	My understanding is that the Daily Mail at least has something that is loosely based on actual news. Sortakinda like Fox/Faux News in the U.S.	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	The National Inquirer has nothing of the kind. The closest it comes to news is gossip. And when that isn’t juicy enough, they just make shit up.	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417360	Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blocking ad networks with named http://linsec.ca/blog/2015/08/01/blocking-ad-networks-with-named/ infesting the whole Web these days. I block most.		Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	"Been doing this for years, basically since the day I first installed BIND DNS on my home server. Best adblocker ever."	Aug 02 18:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linsec.ca \| Blocking ad networks with named \| linsec.ca [ http://ur1.ca/nc0uj ]		Aug 02 18:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417453	Aug 02 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't agree with someone? Say they work for #putin http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/how-a-u-s-think-tank-fell-for-putin.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Beast		Aug 02 18:18
schestowitz	"Is it better working for Obama or Cameron?"	Aug 02 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.thedailybeast.com \| How a U.S. Think Tank Fell for Putin - The Daily Beast [ http://ur1.ca/nc0uw ]		Aug 02 18:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org \| The Daily Beast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nc0ux ]		Aug 02 18:18
schestowitz	Depends on the reader/audience	Aug 02 18:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417129	Aug 02 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to paint #china as Islamic (at AOL) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dilip-hiro/china-silk-road-pakistan_b_7895716.html?utm_hp_ref=business&ir=Business while also ignoring that it's #uk occupying sea and islands in that area		Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| China Muscles Way Into the Indian Ocean Through Its Silk Road Link With Pakistan \| Dilip Hiro [ http://ur1.ca/nc0vi ]		Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	So single-minded was Reagan in expelling the Soviets from Afghanistan	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	No, the tactic was to get them in there in the first place and to keep them there - their Vietnam - done by Carter and Zbigniew Brezinski.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	History Corrected—U.S. Wanted Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27c/467.html	Aug 02 18:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hartford-hwp.com \| History Corrected—U.S. Wanted Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan [ http://ur1.ca/eg3xs ]		Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	Twice in the fall of 2014, the Chinese attacked submarines docked at Sri Lanka’s newly opened, $500 million Colombo South Container Terminal, built and majority-owned by the state-run China Merchant Holdings.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	He means attack-submarines - he calls all chinese subs “attack-subs”, US subs are, presumably defence or “well-wishing” subs :)	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	Quite a bad print error that… (contradicts the linked article) - i.e. nobody attacked nobody.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	Subtle writer - excuse irony - weasle words - “muscle” as verb.	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:20
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilip_Hiro	Aug 02 18:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Dilip Hiro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Aug 02 18:21
schestowitz	Poor attacks in the media invited potent responses in social media :-)	Aug 02 18:22
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417476	Aug 02 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hidden Origins of #Syria 's Civil War http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32134-hidden-origins-of-syria-s-civil-war "nearly a quarter million people have perished..blame..interventionists"		Aug 02 18:23
schestowitz	"it has its interventionists dimension…but in reality its a descent culture and a life experience that Arabs and middle east are passing slowly evolving maybe…but patriarchy, fundamentalism,sectarianism, stagnant minds, Islamic fascism was already there, and other class and social problems. as an arab I dont know where it will end"	Aug 02 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.truth-out.org \| Hidden Origins of Syria's Civil War [ http://ur1.ca/nc0wd ]		Aug 02 18:23
schestowitz	I guess it can end when one side wins and neither side if propped up by Putin or Obama or whoever.	Aug 02 18:23
schestowitz	*is	Aug 02 18:24
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417428	Aug 02 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #MusicTube Review - Use #YouTube as Your Source of Music http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/musictube-review-488224.shtml streaming is spying though, better download		Aug 02 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.softpedia.com \| MusicTube Review - Use YouTube as Your Source of Music - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nc0wq ]		Aug 02 18:24
schestowitz	"can you elaborate on how streaming is spying ?? thnx"	Aug 02 18:24
schestowitz	Spies (ads, government, etc.) gather a list of what you listen to, when, how long for, which part of audio/video...	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417122	Aug 02 18:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top Pentagon Intel Officer: yes, we destroyed #iraq https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/31/top-pentagon-intel-officer-iraq-may-not-come-back-as-an-intact-state/ like #libya - reconstruction and democracy/freedom not the goal		Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> foreignpolicy.com \| Top Pentagon Intel Officer: Iraq ‘May Not Come Back as an Intact State’ \| Foreign Policy [ http://ur1.ca/nc0x0 ]		Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	That was their publicised idea in the first Iraq war, but they then decided to keep Saddam - and Iraq.	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	A long time ago there was a map posted here of how West Asia will look like - can’t find it unfortunately	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	"	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	Well, many oil fields and US army bases :-)	Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417140	Aug 02 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US govt never minded Americans killing rare lions before Cecil – #WikiLeaks document http://www.rt.com/usa/311264-wikileaks-cecil-us-govt/ 'hunting' in the culture		Aug 02 18:26
schestowitz	"Wanna be Hemingways, Hemmingway thought death (of others) enhanced life - so did Churchill - they got that from their schoolboy comics."	Aug 02 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.rt.com \| US govt never minded Americans killing rare lions before Cecil – WikiLeaks document — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/nc0x8 ]		Aug 02 18:26
schestowitz	"Article says on Wikileaks. Went to Wikileaks; don’t see it."	Aug 02 18:26
schestowitz	"A 2008’s classified memo signed by James D McGee, the-then US ambassador to Zimbabwe, has revealed that the US government knew about and approved of its citizens going trophy hunting to South Africa, says WikiLeaks."	Aug 02 18:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/woppywop/status/628270545340121088	Aug 03 19:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@woppywop: @schestowitz @qapsl0ck and how many innocents killed ?		Aug 03 19:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/628272368411123712	Aug 03 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz Out of 7 iPhones owned I've had to have 3 replaced, although saying that also had a faulty Samsung, HTC, and Nexus phone.		Aug 03 19:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/nilecoy/status/628302592058130437	Aug 03 21:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nilecoy: @schestowitz the algorithms they use for automated takedowns must be pretty complex if they're capable of "Good faith belief."		Aug 03 21:37
MinceR	:D	Aug 03 21:38
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/628311821875814400	Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Hacktivists congratulate Jon Stewart via Donald Trump's website @ruskin147 @schestowitz @maitlis @bbclaurak http://t.co/ek79hYQmhy		Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Hacktivists congratulate Daily Show's Jon Stewart via Donald Trump's website • The Register		Aug 04 01:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/628332484250443776	Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Macs can be remotely infected with firmware malware that remains after reformatting @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/dHiPjqMRN3		Aug 04 01:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.pcworld.com \| Macs can be remotely infected with firmware malware that remains after reformatting \| PCWorld		Aug 04 01:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422370	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A #fraud by any other name, University of #Phoenix http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/a-college-without-classes/400115/ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=university+of+pheonix+fraud&gbv=1&sei=Tbq_VabgL9CP7AbSlZDoCg		Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theatlantic.com \| Colleges Cutting Lectures, and Costs - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/ncj1w ]		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.google.co.uk \| university of pheonix fraud - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ncj1x ]		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	“It costs her just $5,000 a year.”	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	At least price is more or less reasonable, for US standards.	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"“I have alopecia universalis, which incidentally is the motto of the University of Phoenix.” – paraphrase of Dave Kennedy a Boston-based comic"	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422402	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Charles #Koch calls for unity against 'corporate welfare' http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/02/politics/charles-koch-corporate-welfare/ haha, #hypocrisy		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	"How is he a hypocrite? Most claims of corporate welfare by the Kochs are not true."	Aug 04 03:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> edition.cnn.com \| Koch calls for unity against 'corporate welfare' - CNNPolitics.com [ http://ur1.ca/ncj24 ]		Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	They benefit from tax cuts etc.	Aug 04 03:28
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6420813	Aug 04 03:29
schestowitz	"nice, seems he listened to the critics who told him to open source his stuff"	Aug 04 03:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Dotcom will put some some cash together and we’ll see yet another Dotcom owned online storage site" http://fossforce.com/2015/08/dotcoms-foss-cloud-plans/		Aug 04 03:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossforce.com \| Dotcom's FOSS Cloud Plans \| FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/ncj2e ]		Aug 04 03:29
schestowitz	I was among them	Aug 04 03:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422550	Aug 04 03:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ExtremeTech explains: Why you should (or shouldn’t) root your #Android device http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/211314-extremetech-explains-why-you-should-or-shouldnt-root-your-android-device #linux		Aug 04 03:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.extremetech.com \| ExtremeTech explains: Why you should (or shouldn’t) root your Android device \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/ncj2j ]		Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	The whole notion of not allowing the end user to have root access to what is surely a mini computer is like selling someone an actual computer and saying sorry, you can’t have admin rights.	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	I rooted my S3 and installed a custom OS ages ago. That reason was glaringly left out of the article.	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422188	Aug 04 03:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I haven't been writing much about #systemd but having used it against my will for 3 months, thumbs down https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74589		Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> bugs.freedesktop.org \| Bug 74589 – systemd segfaults if no cgroups are available [ http://ur1.ca/j3zxv ]		Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	" Lennart Poettering 2014-04-04 14:56:43 UTC	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	Well, cgroups-less kernels are explicitly not supported by systemd."	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	I still have hope for GNU/Hurd.	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:31
MinceR	yeah, he hopes to kill hurd	Aug 04 03:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422506	Aug 04 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In some nations, wearing #police uniform is sign of authority simply because it means one might carry weapons and can use them sparingly		Aug 04 03:32
MinceR	multiserver microkernel systems are antithetical to what poettering prefers: a huge blob.	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	"It’s surprising how unarmed people prefer not to upset armed people."	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	In the USA, if you take out your phone in a situation with the police, the chances of you being shot by a top notch “elite”, experienced officer is 20pc, or 1 in five. With a new officer, i.e. a “rooky”, the chances are three times higher 60pc.	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	http://www.forcescience.org/performingunderpressure.html	Aug 04 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forcescience.org \| Performingunderpressure [ http://ur1.ca/ncj33 ]		Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	"	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	This is scary stuff. In the UK it's nothing like that; most cops are unarmed.	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	MinceR: yeah	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	MinceR: I started writing more about systemd	Aug 04 03:32
schestowitz	thanks in part to link you post to IRC	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	But I don't want to enter this war too deeply	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	neither does RMS	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	:)	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	RMS already has	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	Because it's a bit like civil war	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	maybe unwittingly	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	imagine if RMS chastised systemd	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	that would be the right thing to do	Aug 04 03:33
schestowitz	Red Hat and many systemd fans would pick on him	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	staying silent would also have been correct	Aug 04 03:33
MinceR	redcrap and the cancerd fanboys can go fuck themselves	Aug 04 03:34
MinceR	they can use winblows if they love its design so much	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	I didn't notice if he made an opinion on it	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	my understanding is, he said he doesn't use it	Aug 04 03:34
MinceR	he said it's [L]GPL therefore free	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	and therefore not too qualified to comment	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	though when he started gnu he made copies of UNIX programs that were modular	Aug 04 03:34
MinceR	then he shouldn't have commented.	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	this philisophy is compromised by systemd	Aug 04 03:34
schestowitz	also hurd... supposed to be modular as a microkernel	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	the recent bullshit about gnu not being unix is even worse	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	apparently gnu's windows now	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	MinceR: technically it's free software	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	and he's right on that	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	technically so's the nv driver	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	the issue isn't freedom as per 4 freedom	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	except not really	Aug 04 03:35
schestowitz	but unix philosophy	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	free software is designed by the 4 freedoms, not licenses	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	s/designed/defined/	Aug 04 03:35
MinceR	and systemd doesn't respect the freedom of the user	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	it's forced on the user via lock-in and designed to be hard to improve or replace	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	it does in the sense of the 4 freedom	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	lock-in by itself should be a clear red flag	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	that's like a loophole against freedom	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	like microsoft calling .NET "free"	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	if microsoft did the same, they'd be attacked for it	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	or Mono doing the same	Aug 04 03:36
MinceR	but when redcrap does it, it's acceptable?	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	the issue there has much to do with API and platform dependency	Aug 04 03:36
schestowitz	or framework creep	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	[03:36] <MinceR> if microsoft did the same, they'd be attacked for it	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	Yes	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	but remember that RMS didn't do much to criticise mono, either	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	and then there was gnu dot not	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	RMS focuses on freedom	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	so I wouldn't press him on issues such as systemd	Aug 04 03:37
schestowitz	remember he cited techitghts in gnome mailing lists expressing concerns about gnome becoming mono-dependent	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	which was true at the time, with dbus...	Aug 04 03:38
MinceR	software patent traps also infringe on users' freedom	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	so he did worry about dependencies creep	Aug 04 03:38
MinceR	the point is, if the FSF can't be relied on in this case, what good are they anymore?	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	systemd doesn't seem to introduce patent threat	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	unlike mono	Aug 04 03:38
schestowitz	systemd worries me cause of back doors or bug doors	Aug 04 03:38
MinceR	they don't seem to care about freedom anymore, they just want a gratis windows clone.	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	I wrote about that when debian picked the systemd route	Aug 04 03:39
MinceR	(which systemd is becoming ever more)	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	MinceR: maybe mono/xamarin	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	I don't think systemd folks want windows clone	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	they just like the structure that resembles some subsystems	Aug 04 03:39
MinceR	funny how gnome becoming mono-dependent was an issue but gnome and debian and kde becoming systemd-dependent isn't	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	right	Aug 04 03:39
schestowitz	different scenario	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	yeah, they just want all the design flaws of windows reimplemented	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	same with samba	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	they have unique issues	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	they want huge, opaque, unmanageable blobs locked into each other	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	they want client-side decorations	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	they want binary logs	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	patents, framework creep, the entity to benefit (Red Hat vs Microsoft), freedom...	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	thing is, they can have that already	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	microsoft will happily sell it to them!	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	ms doesn't have that	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	yes they do	Aug 04 03:40
schestowitz	windows is binary at the program level	Aug 04 03:40
MinceR	windows is badly architected nonfree software	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	it has client-side decorations	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	also it's controlled by a ruthless critical entity	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	it has binary logs	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	red hat ain't	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	yes it is	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	their actions show their nature	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	LP is no bill gates	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	the trickery via gnome dependencies and gnome people to hijack debian	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	I don't hate him	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	but PA made a mess at the time	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	the pressure they exert on Linus to force kdbus into the kernel	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	and I don't need per-application volume control	Aug 04 03:41
MinceR	redcrap is no better than microsoft	Aug 04 03:41
schestowitz	lots of software that expects OSS/alsa, e.g. xmms, ceased to work	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	red hat is far better	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	red hat did a lot for gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	redhat _used to be_ far better	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	since the 90s	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	redhat _used to do_ a lot for gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	a lot of the code we use was made there, we can't just ignore that	Aug 04 03:42
schestowitz	red hat OS (centos) runs my sites	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	this http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html	Aug 04 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.freedesktop.org \| [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader [ http://ur1.ca/ir0kd ]		Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	and this http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/03764.html	Aug 04 03:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: careful review of kdbus [ http://ur1.ca/n2vc5 ]		Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	is not for gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:42
MinceR	these are clear attacks against gnu/linux	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	I was thinking of hovsepian yesterday	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	if microsoft did the sorts of things redcrap is doing nowadays, they would be rightly criticized for them	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	and shunned	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	not sure why, maybe cause of his daughter pursuing some thing with the camera	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	but redcrap gets away with everything	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	but what novell did was far worse	Aug 04 03:43
schestowitz	"ip peace of mind", helping Ballmer imply that red hat users "have an obligation to compensate us"	Aug 04 03:43
MinceR	redcrap did good things to get leverage	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	we need to choose our villains wisely	Aug 04 03:44
MinceR	now it's time for them to use that leverage	Aug 04 03:44
MinceR	and they use leverage just like microsoft	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	red hat worries me less, even for the nsa relationship	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	ms couldn't do what red hat does	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	it doesn't have the same leverage over linux dev	Aug 04 03:44
schestowitz	you know me, MinceR, I'm no buddy of Red Hat	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	I was last fighting with their staff just days ago	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	over my criticism of Red Hat book promotion for Jim W	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	in opensource.com	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	but I don't consider red hat worth fighting	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	i saw it	Aug 04 03:45
schestowitz	and not just for PC reasons	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	well, if people won't fight redcrap, we'll lose gnu and linux to them	Aug 04 03:45
MinceR	and if people still won't fight redcrap, we'll also lose the bsd-s to them	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	I mean, I got chastise for my articles in 2013-14 saying that might have back doors	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	!google byfield tinfoil	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[1] - Off the Wall \| Bruce Byfield's blog \| http://brucebyfield.com/	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[2] - Bruce Byfield \| Off the Wall \| http://brucebyfield.com/author/brucebyfield/	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[3] - November \| 2014 \| Off the Wall \| http://brucebyfield.com/2014/11/	Aug 04 03:46
TechrightsBN	[4] - Tin Hats Vs Red Hat » Linux Magazine \| http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Tin-Hats-Vs-Red-Hat	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	see [4]	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	and once redcrap has a monopoly on unix on pc, m$ only needs to revoke their uefi certificate	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	Well, Byfield, long sworn 'enemy'	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	and boom, you don't get to boot anything other than winblows on uefi "pc"s	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	Alas, red hat is one we need to pressure to behave	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	re systemd too	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	and on intel you can't even replace uefi with coreboot	Aug 04 03:46
MinceR	because there's intel boot guard	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	but not to attack them, it would only help Apple, Microsoft...	Aug 04 03:46
schestowitz	the very fact that red hat know they're watched makes them behave better	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	then they get to bribe politicians to demonize people who use non-uefi pc-s and other open hardware	Aug 04 03:47
schestowitz	on systemd their policy is to "no comment"	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	bring up child porn or whatever, make a law to make those computers illegal	Aug 04 03:47
schestowitz	and to distance themselves, making it look also like an Intel and "fedora" project	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	welcome to the brave new dystopia!	Aug 04 03:47
schestowitz	not just redhat.com addresses are involved it in anymore	Aug 04 03:47
MinceR	redcrap is not behaving anymore	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	uefi won't win	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	Intel will try	Aug 04 03:48
MinceR	uefi has already won	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	but general-purpose computers are requested by some govs	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	Intel is in any case on the decline	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	my brother in law works there (over a decade now) and now they train Indians	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	Intel is just trying to keep afloat	Aug 04 03:48
schestowitz	they'll die with UEFI one day	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	Some Chinese companies will take over	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	systemd won	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	for sure	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	all the major distros are stuck with it	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	and there is no going back	Aug 04 03:49
MinceR	then those governments will have general purpose computers	Aug 04 03:49
MinceR	what will slaves^Wcitizens have?	Aug 04 03:49
schestowitz	all the other init systems (which systemd ain't, it's more like a system-wide cancer) are just digital trash now	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	telescreens?	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	for the museum	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	remotely administrated web terminals?	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	MS has no leverage	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	they do	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	in hardware they're losing it	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	it slipped away	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	they have the keys to the uefi kingdom	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	not all	Aug 04 03:50
MinceR	and all the governments let them get away with this	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	chromebooks for instance	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	not all governments	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	China, Russia, Germany	Aug 04 03:50
schestowitz	big governments	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	there's not even a pretense of antitrust or antimonopoly anymore	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	vista 10 will discourage even more govs	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	are _all_ chromebooks coreboot?	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	not signed by MS	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	i've seen ads of a vista10 "upgrade" on some chromebooks recently	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	that's my point	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	if not signed by m$, then signed by the hw makers	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	MinceR: won't work	Aug 04 03:51
MinceR	and they don't care about our freedom	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	MS also hopes to convert android devices to windows	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	never worked	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	and MS mobile/phone is dead now	Aug 04 03:51
schestowitz	so they try their own android malware	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	they only care about the incentives and threats from m$	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	drive, skype, cortana and other sht	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	well, everything m$ tried failed	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	so now they try to kill the general purpose computer	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	they don't know what they're even doing, they lack the leverage they once had	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	and the governments aren't doing anything	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	MinceR: they try	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	with Intel	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	doesn't mean they're succeeding	Aug 04 03:52
schestowitz	LP kills choices on Linux	Aug 04 03:52
MinceR	already it's impossible to buy a laptop with a large hdd/ssd without uefi	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	and by extension Red Hat does too	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	MinceR: look at non-Win laptops	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	they do exist	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	don't pay for UEFI garbage	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	that's what I've been saying for years	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	boycott that crap	Aug 04 03:53
schestowitz	my wife's laptop cost just 200 pounds	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	dual core, decent HDD, dual head support, etc.	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	and nice hardware	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	came with chrome OS	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	boots very fast, no lockdown issues	Aug 04 03:54
MinceR	yeah, they do exist... outside hungary	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	If you want, I can help ship to you	Aug 04 03:54
schestowitz	or buy for you	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	afaik there were no eeepc-s sold with gnu/linux here	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	and even finding a chromebook is a challenge	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	warranty the only issue then	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	but i doubt a chromebook has enough mass storage or power for my needs	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	doubt it too	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	my wife doesn't do much except watch video, drupal, etc.	Aug 04 03:55
schestowitz	email, some work that's not too technical	Aug 04 03:55
MinceR	(especially if i want to dualboot gnu/linux and netbsd)	Aug 04 03:57
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schestowitz	netbsd for desktop?	Aug 04 03:59
MinceR	what else?	Aug 04 03:59
MinceR	if redcrap manages to kill gnu/linux, where else can we go?	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	freebsd will be freeosx with launchd	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	netbsd for toasters maybe..	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	openbsd won't do half the sutff the desktop needs	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	pcbsd with kde looks ok	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	pcbsd is freebsd	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	my boss uses bsd	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	therefore it will be freeosx	Aug 04 04:00
schestowitz	MinceR: but configured differently	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	configuration won't make launchd not suck	Aug 04 04:00
MinceR	it also won't take out all the toxic stupidity in the reimplementations of the systemd APIs	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	I guess I have up resisting systemd	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	it's too late	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	we reacted too late in the linux community	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	i certainly did	Aug 04 04:01
schestowitz	when it was already spreading across the whole body of Linux	Aug 04 04:01
MinceR	but if we can get the help of the majority of the kernel developers	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	and people woke up just when ubuntu and debian leaned that way	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	and the majority of at least one DE	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	and after them almost all other distros	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	then we can yet fight back	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	maybe our side will be the fork	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	too late, I think	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	but it can still be what gnu/linux used to be	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	not heard much of the devuan project in the past month	Aug 04 04:02
schestowitz	it's our last chance	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	and at least we'll have most of the winblows idiots off our back for a while	Aug 04 04:02
MinceR	we have others	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	there's slackware, gentoo and most of their derivatives	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	gentoo?	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	arch?	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	has arch moved?	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	of course, we'll need enough people to maintain forks of applications that become dependent	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	arch has fallen long ago	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	gentoo and especially funtoo is resisting	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	they have miniscule market share collectively	Aug 04 04:03
schestowitz	maybe less than 10% of GNU/Linux	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	(so much it made poettering pissed at gentoo)	Aug 04 04:03
MinceR	slackware won't move to systemd unless they have to	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	funtoo is still around?	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	yes	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	slaskware will have to move	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	kde is starting to assume systemd	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	kubuntu already has systemd all over it	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	I use 15.04 right now	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	xfce devs are willing to work with devuan devs	Aug 04 04:04
schestowitz	and kubuntu commands kde these days	Aug 04 04:04
MinceR	they've already accepted a patch to fix a dependency	Aug 04 04:05
schestowitz	much of the development comes from blue systems/kubuntu	Aug 04 04:05
MinceR	lxde/lxqt is probably still sane as well	Aug 04 04:05
schestowitz	I'm unlikely to use these anymore	Aug 04 04:06
MinceR	i'm using xfce and lxde right now	Aug 04 04:06
MinceR	also, there are possibilities of cooperation between gnu/linux and openbsd	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	maybe netbsd also	Aug 04 04:07
MinceR	i hope slackware will choose xfce or lxde over kde	Aug 04 04:09
schestowitz	long kde tradition	Aug 04 04:10
schestowitz	they would alienate users if they dodge kde just because of systemd	Aug 04 04:10
MinceR	kde itself has broken their own traditions already	Aug 04 04:10
schestowitz	yeah	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	plasma 5 is a bit of a mess	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	they've gone from reliability and functionality to pointless, unreliable bling	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	and now systemd	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	"Bit" an understatement	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	they should have stayed with qt4 for longer, or something...	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	I think it's maintained closely to Blue Systems too	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	gnome and kde are worthless, the only thing of value in them are some of their applications	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	or who was the owner of qt/trolltech now?	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	After Nokia?	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	certainly that's where the systemd tentacles will attach	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	It's some other company	Aug 04 04:11
MinceR	digia.	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	yeah	Aug 04 04:11
schestowitz	kde just has plasma	Aug 04 04:12
schestowitz	I can run the apps from elsewhere	Aug 04 04:12
schestowitz	rianne runs them from unity now	Aug 04 04:12
schestowitz	there's not much in plasma that I actually need anymore	Aug 04 04:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422241	Aug 04 04:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "iPhone breaks and the S6 gets some light scuffs. It's clear that Apple isn't building these things to last." -Ryan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsyGweP5so		Aug 04 04:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com \| Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge VS iPhone 6 Drop Test! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nca60 ]		Aug 04 04:14
schestowitz	"Happened to my oboe too. #plannedoboesolescence"	Aug 04 04:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6420738	Aug 04 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linus Torvalds warns he's in no mood to be polite as Linux 4.2 drags http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/03/linus_torvalds_in_no_mood_to_be_polite_as_work_on_linux_42_drags/ #linux #torvalds		Aug 04 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Linus Torvalds warns he's in no mood to be polite as Linux 4.2 drags • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/ncjdd ]		Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	"lulz"	Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	cult of Torvalds	Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6422171	Aug 04 04:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #systemd development http://i.imgur.com/IdPTkOc.png		Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	"No please, keep ignoring posix, the more tied is systemd to Linux the less likely I might find that aberration elsewhere."	Aug 04 04:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6420789	Aug 04 04:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Vendetta Online 1.8.346 MMORPG Available Now for Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, and Android http://news.softpedia.com/news/vendetta-online-1-8-346-mmorpg-available-now-for-linux-os-x-windows-ios-and-android-488308.shtml #games #gnu #linux		Aug 04 04:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com \| Vendetta Online 1.8.346 MMORPG Available Now for Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, and Android - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/ncjdo ]		Aug 04 04:16
schestowitz	"grabbing the game now. Looks like fun."	Aug 04 04:16
MinceR	:)	Aug 04 04:28
MinceR	keeping systemd tied to Linux won't help if people working on OSes with different kernels reimplement the systemd APIs	Aug 04 04:28
schestowitz	I guess hurd will be locked out	Aug 04 04:43
schestowitz	!google freebsd developer likes systemd	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[1] - systemd is obsolete \| The FreeBSD Forums \| https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/systemd-is-obsolete.49372/	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[2] - FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees need for a modern init system with ... \| https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2nhkx9/freebsds_jordan_hubbard_sees_need_for_a_modern/	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[3] - “Has Linux lost its way?” comments prompt a Debian developer to ... \| http://changelog.complete.org/archives/9317-has-linux-lost-its-way-comments-prompt-a-debian-developer-to-revisit-freebsd-after-20-years	Aug 04 04:43
TechrightsBN	[4] - FreeBSD Plans For The Next Ten Years - Phoronix \| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DMTg0ODE	Aug 04 04:43
schestowitz	see [2]	Aug 04 04:43
schestowitz	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settings	Aug 04 04:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com \| Windows 10: Microsoft under attack over privacy \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/nbp6d ]		Aug 04 04:47
schestowitz	that's our real threat	Aug 04 04:47
schestowitz	shitty OSes that spy	Aug 04 04:47
schestowitz	Android isn't quite as bad as this	Aug 04 04:48
schestowitz	but it shows that linux as the kernel is not enough for freeedom	Aug 04 04:48
schestowitz	if unix and freesw win and we still have drm, firmware erc. then it's not much of a triumpth	Aug 04 04:48
schestowitz	*triumph	Aug 04 04:49
schestowitz	MinceR: redhat CEO propr up cloud computing" http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/innovation/2015/08/02/business-head-in-the-clouds-red-hat-takes-a-high.html?page=all http://wraltechwire.com/jim-whitehurst-highlights-regional-tech-calendar/14808147/	Aug 04 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-upstart.bizjournals.com \| For Raleigh’s largest public company, Red Hat, future growth hangs in the cloud [ http://ur1.ca/ncjm8 ]		Aug 04 04:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wraltechwire.com \| Red Hat's Whitehurst takes stage Aug 27; more regional events fill tech calendar :: Editor's Blog at WRAL TechWire [ http://ur1.ca/ncjm9 ]		Aug 04 04:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/dictvm/status/628320759392403456	Aug 04 05:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dictvm: FUD sells. http://t.co/GNUfnShiiP		Aug 04 05:20
schestowitz	FUD?	Aug 04 05:20
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schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6425000	Aug 04 14:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@harryhaller@nerdpol.ch: _at the CIA, the tail wagged the dog, that America’s real business was covert activities, not intelligence collecting and analysis_ [chalmers johnson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalmers_Johnson) "[sorrows of empire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgnKZ5UgYS0)" CIA not NSA #usa #cia #empire #destabilisation #chalmersjohnson #sorrowofempire		Aug 04 14:17
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com \| The Sorrows of Empire - Chalmers Johnson - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ncnml ]		Aug 04 14:17
schestowitz	That's probably the man who first introduced me to the magnitude of mass surveillance almost a decade ago	Aug 04 14:17
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6425144	Aug 04 14:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #twitter lies about the number of people #nsa "follows". 106? If only... why are people "following" it anyway? Spam accounts (bought)?		Aug 04 14:18
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/628648102551924736	Aug 04 20:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@angrymofo: @skandhurkat @schestowitz I'll stick with Win7 for the time being		Aug 04 20:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426422	Aug 05 14:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Giant porn stash turned a Windows 10 upgrade into every man’s nightmare https://bgr.com/2015/08/03/windows-10-porn-screensaver/ #vista10 #microsoft #windows		Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"seamlessness - isn’t it wonderful?"	Aug 05 14:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> bgr.com \| Windows 10: Porn screensaver surprises man and his wife \| BGR [ http://ur1.ca/ncoc4 ]		Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	“his wife woke him up asking why their computer’s screensaver was cycling through the man’s ostensibly private porn photo collection”	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	Someone does not understand which software respects privacy and which one not.	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"dont normal people make different user accounts at least? ;)"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	"hilarious . . . oh wait… "‘Ain’t love grand?’" o_o"	Aug 05 14:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6424792	Aug 05 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From the same paper/network that promotes #nsa figures, who also promote back doors and front doors http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-04/hackers-force-carmakers-to-boost-security-for-driverless-era		Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bloomberg.com \| Hackers Force Carmakers to Boost Security for Driverless Era - Bloomberg Business [ http://ur1.ca/nczk2 ]		Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	“If your car breaks down, you’d much rather have a system that’s completely connected so your carmaker knows you’ve broken down, and knows where you’re supposed to be going, has a list of authorized garages and can even talk to you from control room,”	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	yeah, right, er…	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	"	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	Remove the "“If your car breaks down"" part because it's an always-on system	Aug 05 14:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6428131	Aug 05 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Slack starts accepting requests for beta access to its new Linux client http://venturebeat.com/2015/08/04/slack-starts-accepting-requests-for-beta-access-to-its-new-linux-client/ #gnu #linux #slack		Aug 05 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> venturebeat.com \| Slack starts accepting requests for beta access to its new Linux client \| VentureBeat \| Business \| by Jordan Novet [ http://ur1.ca/nczkb ]		Aug 05 14:08
schestowitz	"and all your private confidential data stored on their servers, right? fantastic"	Aug 05 14:08
schestowitz	All of it?	Aug 05 14:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426384	Aug 05 14:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Saw a driver near home struggling to start going when the light turned green. Was busy near gearbox. Turned out she was messing w/ phone.ಠ_ಠ		Aug 05 14:09
schestowitz	"Damn phones"	Aug 05 14:09
schestowitz	causing fatal accidents, because of their dumb, selfish useds [sic]	Aug 05 14:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6424795	Aug 05 14:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Personal Computer That Beat Apple (For a While) http://time.com/3968790/tandy-trs-80-history/ "On Aug. 3, 1977..."		Aug 05 14:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> time.com \| The Tandy TRS-80: The Computer That Beat Apple (For a While) [ http://ur1.ca/nczky ]		Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	"anted to have - apple was too much of a “toy” for me - I worked on IBM medium sized (GSD) computers at the time. Across the road was a hobby electronic store with processors stuck on boards with hex digital displays and keypads :) The 8080 processor was talked about as the possible standard. But to buy the TRS80, I think I had to buy it from the USA - it was in any case expensive - looking at that price one must remember that we	Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	earnt much less in those days so $1000 was much more than it is today… The computer I always wanted :) sigh."	Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	It didn't have UEFI 'secure' boot	Aug 05 14:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426416	Aug 05 14:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista10 is like going 9 years into the past http://www.maxhost.org/other/bsod-microsoft-vista.jpg		Aug 05 14:11
schestowitz	"Do Windows still have the #bsod?"	Aug 05 14:11
schestowitz	They look different. Microsoft had to improve them because they happen so often.	Aug 05 14:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6425144	Aug 05 14:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #twitter lies about the number of people #nsa "follows". 106? If only... why are people "following" it anyway? Spam accounts (bought)?		Aug 05 14:12
schestowitz	"On twitter you can follow the nsa, in the real world the nsa follows YOU!"	Aug 05 14:12
schestowitz	NSA is Soviet dream come TRUE!	Aug 05 14:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6426977	Aug 05 14:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CBS Evening News Reports On Historic Climate Policy Without Mentioning #ClimateChange http://mediamatters.org/video/204749		Aug 05 14:13
schestowitz	"Shows you what “competitive” wages really are, something like the Dominican Republic. This is how rich and powerful people would have the rest of us live."	Aug 05 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mediamatters.org \| CBS Evening News Reports On Historic Climate Policy Without Mentioning "Climate Change" \| Video \| Media Matters for America		Aug 05 14:14
schestowitz	lower wages=more employment/iiving uncertainty=more obedient workers	Aug 05 14:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6428131	Aug 05 17:51
schestowitz	"for whatever you’d use this #slack thing for, i dunno, i don’t use it (but some guys at the local makerspace do)"	Aug 05 17:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/628977157491048448	Aug 05 18:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: It's time we owned our own data @ruskin147 @schestowitz http://t.co/rYIJfOtllt		Aug 05 18:19
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schestowitz	" Ok, at least we know why it rebooted. I'm going to setup a dedicated varnish system soon. I need to phase out that old www server."	Aug 06 07:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/thickey/status/629159330080755713	Aug 06 08:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thickey: @schestowitz @MikeRogers0 they are a bit light on details here, but if you don't jailbreak or load dodgy apps I think you are going to be ok		Aug 06 08:06
schestowitz	No, all phones have a universal back door. The second OS can take over the primary one from the tower.	Aug 06 08:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/629188370988711936	Aug 06 09:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz I presume your tweet is tongue-in-cheek?		Aug 06 09:09
schestowitz	No, I think the strike is justified	Aug 06 09:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/thickey/status/629191402476425216	Aug 06 09:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thickey: @schestowitz @MikeRogers0 I would like to say I am more open to conspiracy theories than most people… but let me give you this tin foil hat!		Aug 06 09:09
schestowitz	You need to do some reading http://www.osnews.com/story/27416	Aug 06 09:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.osnews.com \| The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone		Aug 06 09:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/629218471528763392	Aug 06 10:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cryptoland: @schestowitz: Swiss #cryptography firm helped #NSA during Cold War http://t.co/eYAsllRyfs #CryptoAG		Aug 06 10:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.swissinfo.ch \| Swiss cryptography firm helped NSA during Cold War - SWI swissinfo.ch		Aug 06 10:43
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 11:09
schestowitz	I follow you in Diaspora*, and I thought if I could add you as a contact in LinkedIn.	Aug 06 11:09
schestowitz	Thank you.	Aug 06 11:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 11:10
schestowitz	A whole new meaning to linkedin "connections"	Aug 06 11:10
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629322437092638720	Aug 06 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Got 7 comments on my article about #vista10 and not a single one pointed out errors. All were personal attacks/immature insults.		Aug 06 19:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/629359146043875328	Aug 06 19:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz you're not the only one... It's sad that people do that...		Aug 06 19:34
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6432374	Aug 06 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #JDate claims to own the concept of connecting 2 people based on mutual attraction http://www.vox.com/2015/8/5/9100621/jdate-jswipe-software-patent trolls http://techrights.org/2015/07/27/patents-roundup-2015/		Aug 06 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.vox.com \| JDate claims to own the concept of connecting 2 people based on mutual attraction - Vox [ http://ur1.ca/ndfd5 ]		Aug 06 19:57
schestowitz	would have to prove that hitherto dating agencies were based on mutual apathy or repulsion :)"	Aug 06 19:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Patents Roundup: Technicolor, Alice, Voip-Pal, Fitbit, Marijuana Patents, and JDate \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ndfdf ]		Aug 06 19:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	These super-rich people have no sense of shame, have they? To them, class war (looting by the oligarchs/plutocrats) is ‘Free Market’	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	(ibid techrights)	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	This is something which is not discussed. Elites do not care about admiration - with power one does not need “approval” to achieve ones end. It is the brute force principle. The mafia was a farce about government and elite structures - it laid it bare.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	we underlings have no power - we must sell ourselves, gain approval - and need peer respect for support.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	Our mistake is always to assume that elites think likewise. “Democracy”, “I speak for you”, is part of that cruel deception.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	When Philby is called a traitor - it is not meant he betrayed his country (a place) and its people - it was meant he betrayed his class, hence his response that he was no traitor because he never belonged (KGB told him to keep opinions secret and talk/act as elitist).	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	Treason is defined as against King (elite class) and country (a PLC) - not against the well being of the people.	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	http://www.thefreedictionary.com/patent	Aug 06 19:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thefreedictionary.com \| Patent - definition of patent by The Free Dictionary		Aug 06 19:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	Patent: the instrument by which the U.S. government grants title to public land. src	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	now:	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	the instrument by which government grants title to that which was public.	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	"the instrument by which the U.S. government grants title to public land property (incl. thought and information)."	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	"sorry for hijacking, but subject is fundamental to whole concept of property rights - rights to deprive - which is what theft really means. Hence “Property is theft”."	Aug 06 20:00
schestowitz	I liked what Native Americans used to say about "property". That's a subject for another day, enough maybe for a whole book because of the vast scope of "property" these days (slavery, land, ideas, even water)	Aug 06 20:01
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/_5i9sTW35IM/UPXF2d_jPbgJ	Aug 06 20:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ndg17 ]		Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	One of the best articles on the subject of built in back/front doors in	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	Windows 10.	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/07/25/back-doors-and-front-doors/	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	The full article is on the site. I post snips below but encourage	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	everyone to visit the site to read the full article.	Aug 06 20:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Vista 10 (Windows 10) Has NSA Back Doors and Front Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/n9sgj ]		Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	""Summary: Vista 10 to bring new ways for spies (and other crackers) to	Aug 06 20:57
schestowitz	remotely access people’s computers and remotely modify the binary files	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	on them (via Windows Update, which for most people cannot be disabled)	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	MICROSOFT never cared about security. A former Windows manager, Brian	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	Valentine, said explicitly that Microsoft products “just aren’t	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	engineered for security.” Last year we also showed how back in the 1990s	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	Bill Gates and his staff had already collaborated quite intimately with	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	the NSA, well before Snowden’s NSA and GCHQ leaks helped confirm this	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	(with hard evidence and subsequently media reports).	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), which is unfortunately headed by a	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	guy from Microsoft, is going into bed with the NSA right now, despite the	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	negative publicity that may accompany/come with such a move. Microsoft,	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	much to our surprise, is still working with the NSA on Windows, and it	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	does this also for Vista 10. One new article about Microsoft’s purchase	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	of an Israeli (i.e. spy-friendly as we explained says ago) company says	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	that “[a] big reason for this is the company’s collaboration with the	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	National Security Agency (NSA).”""	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	LOL. Another "kwalitie" article from TechRights.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	> The full article is on the site. I post snips below but encourage	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	> everyone to visit the site to read the full article.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	What a pathetic way to get page hits. I guess every penny counts.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	these are known trolls	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	for many years	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"ROFL!!! It's like me citing the National Enquirer for international news. "	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	ROFL!!! Oh man, the guy has serious mental issues. He really seems to	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	believe his own bullshit.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	It's always the same trolls and sockpuppets	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	snit:	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	HOLY CRAP.	Aug 06 20:58
schestowitz	Wow. Yeah, he is utterly delusional. Meanwhile here is how he fares in an	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	actual conversation about Linux:	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/TechBytes56>	Aug 06 20:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tmp.gallopinginsanity.com \| TechBytes56 [ http://ur1.ca/ndg1m ]		Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Maybe I will post it to YouTube at some point for those who fear their	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	system is at great risk from "unknown" sites.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Thanks to NSA trolls and their determined Neo Nazi tactics to infected OSen	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	like windopws and many other products such as those built by Cissco are all	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	being systematically ditched across the world.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	At least 35 billion dollars worth of orders.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Probably a lot more hidden from scrutiny.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	Hitler would have been proud of the NSA troll's gagging orders	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	to hand over information. You can't talk about if if you are served	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	with such an order. You can be fined a few million dollars a day	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	until you do hand it over. All legally in a Neo Nazi run 'democracy'	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	that Hitler would have been proud.	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	In USA today, NSA trolls can order jewish decendants who opposed Hitler	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	to surrender all their wealth, gas them legally, and anyone who opposes	Aug 06 20:59
schestowitz	could be fined and imprisoned and waterboarded legally.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Anyone who points at an NSA troll Neo Nazi, would themselves be	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	target of harassment. You would loose your job, have no further	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	assistance from government, your rights to privacy, banking, etc etc is	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	gone. No disclosure or log of who did what and why and prosecure and	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	discipline and publically shame the wrong doing fsckers.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Thats because in USA you do not elect Government, the government	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	elects you, and if you harass anyone in government, then you	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	are talking your chances aren't you?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	You are probably wondering how you too can become an NSA troll and do	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	all these fantastic things to your people by now to avoid having	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	these things done unto you by now?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Never heard it called Vista 10 before and Internet Explorer 11 can be turned	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	off because it has been superceded with the Edge Browser.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Huh?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	What the fuck is Vista 10? why are you posting about the Vista 10 Honeywell security system control panel?	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	what a Putz that Bhandari be!	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	It must be the windopws marketing that misled gullibles like you.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Pista 10 is the latest incarnation of the original Pista which	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	was a complete disaster. So they could't call it Pista 2	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	after changing around the graphics otherwise nobody would buy.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Pista 10 is the same Pista 0.1 they bought out as Pista 1.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	And the holes and NSA troll infected malware has not	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	superceded your imagination of superior edges in your browser.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	If that proves to be a brown trouser moment, just laugh it off.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Shit, I missed that one!	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	Schestowitz seems to be undergoing some sort of mental break down of	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	sorts.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	I'll bet he is the OP on in this thread. Could also be one of his	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	shills who typically poison blogs like Zdnet with their vitriol.	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:00
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Worse!	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	At least the National Enquirer has decent pictures!	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Vista 7, 8 and 10 is what the world's most delusional imbecile, Dr. Roy	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Schestowitz, calls Windows. He runs a shitty and ugly website which	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	divulges propaganda about Microsoft and other corporations and uses its	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	own articles as evidence for whatever they say.	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:01
schestowitz	Yeah, all that techrights.org has is a plethora of pictures of	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	Schestowitz everywhere on what has to be the ugliest web site I've seen	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	in my life (and I've been on the net since 1994). I've never seen a	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"journalist" so in love with his own image before. He's clearly a	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	narcissist.	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	same two trolls all the time	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	keeping the libel coming	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	One of the worst websites I have ever seen.	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	You click on the article and it takes you to the same page?	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	And quite often he quotes his shills, like iophk or something like	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	that, as a source. As if these losers have any credibility. That's	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	when he is not referring back to his own articles as "proof".	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	Clearly the guy is missing a few nuts and bolts.	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	The "doctor" can claim whatever the Hell he wants as long as he writes	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	an article "proving" that claim. He can say that Apple executives eat	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	aborted baby fetuses and that Microsoft sacrifices the first-borns of	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	each of their employees and he'll think that it's believable because	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	that claim will link to another article of his which is written	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	something like this:	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	"Micro$haft employees are told that the sacrifice of their first-born	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	will lead to increased profits. The company's policy follows Apple's	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	practice of eating aborted baby fetuses which insiders claim is the	Aug 06 21:02
schestowitz	secret of fruit company's success."	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	In his mind, the existence of that article, as poorly written and	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	subjective as it might be (notice the use of Micro$haft) makes it real.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	I'm convinced that he writes such propaganda and supports free software	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	not because he likes it but because he believes that using it makes him	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	some sort of a rebel or a "bigger man" and distracts people from	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	noticing how geeky his voice is (seriously, listen to him talking, it's	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	comical).	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	He is another "advocate" who is part of the problem, instead of the	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	solution.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	Anyone, and I mean anyone reading that site for the first time will	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	either assume it's a dark, satire site or that the guy is just plain	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	nuts.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	He is constantly complaining that he is being DDoS'd by people trying	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	to bring the site down.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	Of course he never offers any proof of this.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	It wouldn't surprise me to learn that at least in part, it's people	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	in the Linux community who are sick and tired of him making them look	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	like idiots.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	The rest are no doubt related to those he has libeled and slandered.	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:03
schestowitz	Now RMS smearing too:	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	""	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	And yes, he does complain about it. He even complained it on Diaspora	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	where a lot of like-minded imbeciles thought that there was a conspiracy	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	against him because of the "very high influence" he has in the world of	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	software technology. Like you said, he never offered evidence. We just	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	had to believe that his repulsive site was being attacked by	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	corporations left and right because the information it held was so	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	dangerous to them.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> It wouldn't surprise me to learn that at least in part, it's people	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> in the Linux community who are sick and tired of him making them look	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> like idiots.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	>	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	> The rest are no doubt related to those he has libeled and slandered.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	Schestowitz is not making the Linux community look as bad as Stallman	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	is. I just had to unsubscribe from his RSS feed because I was fed up of	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	how he supported the most unsupportable stuff and how the feed itself	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	constantly reset itself to the point that you would suddenly have	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	hundreds of "unread" articles in his feed with stuff that you had	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	already seen twice or thrice before. No other RSS feed every fucked up	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	the way his routinely did. Today, he lended his support for Planned	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	Parenthood which just had two videos come out showing how the non-profit	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	organization profited from the sale of body parts from aborted children.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	One of the bitches representing the organization actually said that she	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	wanted to buy a Lamborghini from the profits of sales of unborn	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	children's ligaments. It's bad enough that that repulsive excuse for a	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	human being supported pedophilia but supporting the sale of unborn	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	children's body parts _for profit_ is where I draw the line with him. In	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	case any of you are interested, here are his words:	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	<https://www.stallman.org/archives/2015-may-aug.html#26_July_2015_(Planned_Parenthood_video)>	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	"A Planned Parenthood staffer discussed the expenses and methods for	Aug 06 21:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.stallman.org \| 2015: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/ndg3s ]		Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	obtaining fetal tissue for research, and took a somewhat flip tone. Or	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	at least it appears that way, in an edited video made by an antiabortion	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	fanatic.	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	If the video accurately represents what the staffer said, it doesn't	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	indicate anything wrong in what he does. However, the theocrats will try	Aug 06 21:04
schestowitz	to spin the flip tone into a real wrong."	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	The fact that he would call the person an "antiabortion fanatic"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	shouldn't be excused to begin with, but the fact that he says that "it	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	doesn't indicate anything wrong in what he does" is exactly what I	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	needed to discard this guy as a poor excuse for a man. It's no shocker	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	to me that no woman would ever marry such a disgrace.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	Surely it's not necessary to be told this? Microsoft has a market	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	share, and business practices, that literally would not be tolerated in	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	any other kind of business.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	There can only be one motive for the world's governments to permit this	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	to continue.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	And it is safe to assume that Open Source software is similarly	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	compromised, or it would be illegal to use.	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	> Otherwise CUSTOM Linux is safe but Windoze already comes implanted with	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	> various Govt backdoors, they nailed just the tip of an iceberg. Drop	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	> your smartphone before it's too late ....	Aug 06 21:05
schestowitz	What does the smartphone have to do with Windows? Also, can you _prove_	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	that the government has backdoors in Windows? Hint: an article from	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	techrights.org is not evidence at all since the information on it comes	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	from Roy Schestowitz's imagination.	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/wKY7B_C9oU4/MMUxx_iFoJMJ	Aug 06 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/n70vk ]		Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	I think there are four actual real trolls there, using many nyms	Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	mentioning me here too, to libel again https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/OqtvCIWlrSE/Y952e9VMJCYJ	Aug 06 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/n70ve ]		Aug 06 21:06
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz\|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/m-s9nDUa5Tk/e3t3Yei2PAAJ	Aug 06 21:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/n70tm ]		Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	She/he posts in alt.os.linux.ubuntu. Adding the group.	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	It couldn't happen to a 'nicer person'. Roy Schestowitz has been	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	practicing his yellow journalism apparently unimpeded for years. It	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	was only a matter of time before those he attacks fought back. Good	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	for them.	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	What does that idiot do for a living anyway?	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	Seems with the hundreds of hours he is spending battling those who	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	are attacking him, he would have little if any time left for a	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	legitimate 9 to 5 job.	Aug 06 21:09
schestowitz	Something isn't adding up here.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Just thought you would want to know. But I'm sure	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	you know already, right Roy Schestowitz?	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	What a fucking pussy whiner you are.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Looks like you've bit off far more than you can chew	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	this time spammer boy. I hope the EPO and every	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	other organization you have slandered and libeled	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	over the years, sues your ass.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	You post articles based long on speculation and	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	short on verifiable proof and you don't expect	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	people to retaliate?	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	You must be an even bigger asshole than you appear	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	to be, at least based upon your picture.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/?stories	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/2jIO1rOc3pY[1-25]	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org \| Techrights \| Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom		Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Made it after I was on Roy Schestowitz's show to demonstrate specific	Aug 06 21:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com \| Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ndg5p ]		Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	examples of where he was wrong (and, to be fair, some where I was, too). At	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	the bottom I link to some older movies and PDFs which show how bad it was	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	before then.	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:10
schestowitz	Nadella grooming and libel about FOSS people	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	As far as I know, Nadella hasn't:	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- advocated voluntary pedophilia (like Wretched Stallman)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- offered to wipe someone's dick (like Chris "Ass Storm" Ahlstrom)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- changed his gender (like Rex Ballard did to become Debbie Ballard)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- cleaned toilets for a living (like "Wideload Porkster" William Poaster)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- found himself unable to utter a sentence without using curse words	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	(like chrisv)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- lied profusely and supported his lies with fabricated evidence based	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	on erroneous interpretation of articles (like "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	- believed that Windows is still running atop DOS (like "JEDIDUMBASS"	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	JEDIDIAH)	Aug 06 21:12
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6427079	Aug 06 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google attempt to mimic #facebook is ending http://mashable.com/2015/08/02/google-plus-history/ http://jimlynch.com/internet/the-death-of-google/		Aug 06 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mashable.com \| Inside the sad, expensive failure of Google+ [ http://ur1.ca/ndghv ]		Aug 06 21:46
schestowitz	"referring to the Mashable article. The Jim Lynch post doesn’t seem so bad. Just a guy’s opinion."	Aug 06 21:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> jimlynch.com \| The death of Google+ \| Jim Lynch [ http://ur1.ca/ndghw ]		Aug 06 21:46
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	This kind of reporting really gets to me. First of all, the “_____ is dead” line is so worn out. Second, everyone talks about market share this, user share that, X is never going to make it ahead of Y and Z, etc. Well, I don’t give a shit about that, and chances are, neither does Google. They probably didn’t set out to kill Facebook. They just wanted to get in on the social network data mining game. These social networks compete,	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	to be sure, but they also coexist.	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	These kinds of reports always act like the authors want a monopoly. It’s just bad news.	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6433634	Aug 06 21:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My wife has been using #unity for a month (after 2 years of #kde ) but it's still not fit for purpose. Then again, neither is #plasma5		Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	"“There are far more WMs, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”: Shakespeare. He used Ratpoison :)"	Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	"seriously though… revisiting twm etc. is worthwhile."	Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	Too barebones	Aug 06 21:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6430830	Aug 06 21:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Since 2001 my hours have become less social, my breaks shorter" http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/against-the-tube-strike-then-try-spending-15-years-as-a-train-driver-like-i-have-10440588.html if you don't fight, the rich will fight #classwar		Aug 06 21:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.independent.co.uk \| Against the Tube strike? Then try spending 15 years as a train driver like I have - Comment - Voices - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ndgj2 ]		Aug 06 21:50
schestowitz	"I don’t suppose that’s what’s being printed in the sun and wail - unions must get out leaflets to the public - that was the only way I found out about the real causes of the Heath era miners strike."	Aug 06 21:50
schestowitz	I thought of these strikes, but know too little of them	Aug 06 21:50
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6430877	Aug 06 21:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not many occupations allow their staff to organise for effective action, not even if they form union. #tubestrike helps others by extension		Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	In the 70s ? waste collectors striked on behalf of nurses, who w/couldn’t strike.	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	strikes are hard - only pay is from the union, but has more sense of fighting/doing than protesting.	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	The rich cover their heart with a wallet - you have to attack their wallet, rather than plea to their heart.	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	"	Aug 06 21:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6432455	Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft site: Can you run #Linux containers on platform with NSA back door? http://windowsitpro.com/windows-server-2016/can-you-run-linux-containers-windows-server yes, if dumb http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA		Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> windowsitpro.com \| Can you run Linux containers on Windows Server? \| Windows Server 2016 content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/ndgjd ]		Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	"I wonder why someone would like to do that."	Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ]		Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	Some people thought the CD tray is a cupholder...	Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6417428	Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #MusicTube Review - Use #YouTube as Your Source of Music http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/musictube-review-488224.shtml streaming is spying though, better download		Aug 06 21:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.softpedia.com \| MusicTube Review - Use YouTube as Your Source of Music - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nc0wq ]		Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	"So what you’re saying is, by streaming you are letting yourself be spied upon. Not that you are spying. Right?"	Aug 06 21:52
schestowitz	"I imagine that… I meant if maybe it something technical with streaming makes it vulnerable"	Aug 06 21:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/VHS2DVDza/status/629399014127960064\	Aug 06 22:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@VHS2DVDza: @RamiSilawi @libreoffice @ubuntu @schestowitz @linuxfoundation @tdforg d/l now x64 .deb		Aug 06 22:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6432297	Aug 07 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux smartwatch offers luxury stylings and a novel interface http://linuxgizmos.com/linux-smartwatch-offers-luxury-stylings-and-a-novel-interface/ #linux		Aug 07 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linuxgizmos.com \| Linux smartwatch offers luxury stylings and a novel interface · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/ndpnd ]		Aug 07 18:23
schestowitz	"still using cloud … I may stick with a pebble one day"	Aug 07 18:23
schestowitz	"and to think that they gat paid to dish them out ,can`t cheat karma though ,what ever you do will come back to you"	Aug 07 18:24
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6433614	Aug 07 18:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Got 7 comments on my article about #vista10 and not a single one pointed out errors. All were personal attacks/immature insults.		Aug 07 18:24
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schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing	Aug 08 00:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org \| Astroturfing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ndsn6 ]		Aug 08 00:20
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:20
schestowitz	I think Trisquel is excellent.	Aug 08 00:20
schestowitz	It’s still a little tricky for average users, but I’ve had a wonderful time with Trinity16. Newer versions of Trinity remove the special environment problem older versions do, but I ran into a few serious bugs in the PIM that ruined notifications for me and went back. Having KDE’s old PIM, Kicker, and Palm sync without having to give up newer KDE has made me a happy camper for the last year or two. With an automated shutdown and new	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	names for Trinity programs, this would be a good desktop for anyone.	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:21
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6437404	Aug 08 00:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just been stopped in the street again by #mormon missionaries; turns out one who's from #utah had her dad work for #novell before #hovsepian		Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	:facepalm	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	This is one of those times when I’m tempted to ask what the Mormon hierarchy was thinking. I just don’t dare.	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 00:22
schestowitz	Maybe they didn't know it was a rough neighbourhood , but it's no excuse. One of them was quite attractive and could get abused by some lads.	Aug 08 00:23
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/112weet/status/629937374940786688	Aug 08 12:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@112weet: #Android #TechBuzz 🐝✨ @TechNovatie https://t.co/BxQeyM1v3R		Aug 08 12:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Why #Android 'Fragmentation' Is A Good Thing http://t.co/lyoH7UyaO8 good article		Aug 08 12:05
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629920382582132736	Aug 08 13:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: GNU Spotlight with Brandon Invergo: Nineteen new GNU releases! http://t.co/C9JxCxT90Q #gnu #fsf		Aug 08 13:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.fsf.org \| GNU Spotlight with Brandon Invergo: Nineteen new GNU releases! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Aug 08 13:14
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629921389097689088	Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #apple no longer believes it can restore #ios market share? http://t.co/NrgyKcz7vs #android #linux		Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mashable.com \| Apple job posting suggests more apps for Android a possibility		Aug 08 13:15
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629922069191491584	Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #FCC urges carriers to turn off copper networks, upgrade to fiber http://t.co/5M7EgeMNPa #internet		Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> arstechnica.com \| FCC urges carriers to turn off copper networks, upgrade to fiber \| Ars Technica		Aug 08 13:15
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629922792780234752	Aug 08 13:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Raspberry Pi Geocache kit http://t.co/x4z26DAcbH #raspi #linux		Aug 08 13:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ovidiu.geekaliens.com \| Raspberry Pi Geocache kit \| My world		Aug 08 13:16
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629926671362195456	Aug 08 13:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: The #Wine development release 1.7.49 is now available https://t.co/ge6xQKaX4f #unix #linux		Aug 08 13:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.winehq.org \| WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.7.49 is now available.		Aug 08 13:18
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629927949215625216	Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Important #Firefox 39.0.3 Security Update Arrives in #Ubuntu http://t.co/VjTdbkD2Vo derivatives also. #mozilla #security		Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com \| Important Firefox 39.0.3 Security Update Arrives in Ubuntu - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:19
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629928468063617024	Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Bq #Ubuntu Phones Now Available for US Customers http://t.co/YFeC4aYfoP #linux		Aug 08 13:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com \| Bq Ubuntu Phones Now Available for US Customers - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:19
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629929392437858308	Aug 08 13:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #FreeBSD 10.2 RC3 Is Out for Testing, Final Release Arrives on August 31 http://t.co/1ipQ41EpVt #bsd #unix		Aug 08 13:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com \| FreeBSD 10.2 RC3 Is Out for Testing, Final Release Arrives on August 31 - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:20
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MrMirth/status/629785176453857280	Aug 08 13:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrMirth: Celebrating 100 years of Frank Sinatra, born in 1915. The world's most popular singer. http://t.co/9g7C642bUi		Aug 08 13:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MrMirth: Celebrating 100 years of Frank Sinatra, born in 1915. The world's most popular singer. http://t.co/9g7C642bUi		Aug 08 13:21
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629934611037061120	Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Celebrate #Ubuntu Touch's New Film Scope and Win an Ubuntu Phone http://t.co/DHg87mxcdY #linux		Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com \| Celebrate Ubuntu Touch's New Film Scope and Win an Ubuntu Phone - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:22
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629935157609414656	Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Second Snappy #UbuntuCore 15.04 Stable Version Now Ready for Raspberry Pi 2 http://t.co/pnBnUNl42y #ubuntu #raspi		Aug 08 13:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com \| Second Snappy Ubuntu Core 15.04 Stable Version Now Ready for Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Aug 08 13:22
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629935458357800960	Aug 08 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Calling diversity "fragmentation". http://t.co/bu9BTZqxc5 http://t.co/Nx7jpq1uRW and war is "for peace"...		Aug 08 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> venturebeat.com \| Android fragmentation report: There are now 24,093 distinct devices, up 28% from last year \| VentureBeat \| Mobile \| by Paul Sawers		Aug 08 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com \| Biggest difference between Android and iPhone - Business Insider		Aug 08 13:23
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629971231605981185	Aug 08 13:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Beautiful day for outdoor sports and gardening. Back to the interwebs now...		Aug 08 13:24
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mf1337/status/629609995638849536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629972353053757441	Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mf1337: Microsoft is Openwashing Proprietary Software by Conversion http://t.co/t9v9srUEyj		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft is Openwashing Proprietary Software by Conversion \| Techrights		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Some better #fedora sites being worked on http://t.co/r6XPC7M9Xi		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> anuradhanotes.blogspot.co.uk \| Anu notes: Progress with integration		Aug 08 13:25
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629972502517805056	Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Fedora 23 Alpha — release set for Tuesday http://t.co/Dqj96YUhz9 #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux		Aug 08 13:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fedoramagazine.org \| F23 Alpha is Go, fun at Flock, Firefox, Rawhide, and more - Fedora Magazine		Aug 08 13:25
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629983158147096576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629983192586579968	Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #ios not safe, it has back doors http://t.co/uLfYTxEQ3F #apple just calls these "diagnostics"		Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.ibtimes.com \| Android To Get Monthly Security Updates, But Apple iOS 'Walled Garden' Likely Still Safer		Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: OPM wins Pwnie, Google on Android security, DoJ on CFAA: Black Hat 2015 roundup http://t.co/3nRPRGV13d #security #blackhat		Aug 08 13:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.zdnet.com \| OPM wins Pwnie, Google on Android security, DoJ on CFAA: Black Hat 2015 roundup \| ZDNet		Aug 08 13:27
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629986813541785600 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/629987916727623680	Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: At #apple it's branding over substance http://t.co/v0HxStQXsc		Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.slashgear.com \| Android iPhone clone shown as “iOS 9″, iFans love it - SlashGear		Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Oracle updates complaint against Google to highlight Android's success http://t.co/AxycUyO4W3 trying to derail #freesw		Aug 08 13:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.pcworld.com \| Oracle updates complaint against Google to highlight Android's success \| PCWorld		Aug 08 13:28
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/629981910110994432	Aug 08 13:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz @danielwcooper Shame if so as HTC phones are rather indestructible and quite attractive. Just need newer features.		Aug 08 13:30
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/630058003551662080 https://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/630058174528266240	Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@qu1j0t3: Only the completely uninformed believe otherwise. Oh, you said that. https://t.co/Z63HErY6yl		Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #US As Corrupt As #Russia , Says Former NSA Exec http://t.co/2hI2W8SufW "Americans believe that [only] Russia is a corrupt"		Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@haniefhaider: @schestowitz No.Jill Stein Green Party voice of true leftist politics but rarely if not at all allowed to speak to the millions of voters.		Aug 08 18:14
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6441029	Aug 08 22:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: At #apple it's branding over substance http://www.slashgear.com/android-iphone-clone-shown-as-ios-9-ifans-love-it-05395785/		Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	yes, there is some truth in your comment. However I think the average user (if there is such a thing) would have trouble integrating their music, TV, laptop and mobile etc. services using Linux.	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	The sad truth is for us non-geeks Linux is not easy in terms of doing the things we want to be able do. A large part of that is integration and sychronisation of services across multiple devices and platforms. In that respect I would submit that Apple are the best of a bad bunch :)	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:55
schestowitz	"By integrating music do you mean listening to it on iCloud? I have never understood how it is different from streaming on a website; obviously because I haven’t used iProducts or any high end smartphone."	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	"I can listen to and synchronise my music collection on my phone, my laptop and my apple TV connected to my hi-fi. All pretty seamless."	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	"despite all that I am not an apple fanboi!"	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	Streaming is a privacy violation much of the time, for no added value...	Aug 08 22:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6440402	Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	"I have the Aquaris E5 and I’m actually pretty happy with it.'	Aug 08 22:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BQ #Aquaris #E45 Ubuntu Edition review http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/bq-aquaris-e45-ubuntu-edition-1295353/review/5 #ubuntu #linux		Aug 08 22:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techradar.com \| BQ Aquaris E45 Ubuntu Edition review: Verdict \| TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/ne25i ]		Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	"I have the Aquaris E45 and it’s a very good phone :-)"	Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	If it makes phonecalls, then it does what it's supposed to	Aug 08 22:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6441255	Aug 08 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #china IP addresses, just like Western IP addresses, make attempts all the time. #nsa trying to deflect, change focus http://www.biztekmojo.com/001029/secret-nsa-map-shows-widespread-cyber-attacks-us-systems-companies-chinese-government		Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.biztekmojo.com \| Secret NSA Map Shows Widespread Cyber Attacks in US Systems, Companies by Chinese Government [ http://ur1.ca/ne25t ]		Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	Every time I see the US complain of something to me is like a gang complaining about what other gang did to them.	Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	Or maybe these kind of news are propaganda for domestic consumption, not intended for foreigners.	Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 22:58
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6441592	Aug 08 22:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Higher Education Debt Should Be Deductible, Rand Paul Says http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-04/higher-education-debt-should-be-deductible-rand-paul-says?cmpid=yhoo or maybe HighEd shouldn't be massively overpriced?		Aug 08 22:59
schestowitz	"While I agree that wouldn’t help those already in debt."	Aug 08 22:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bloomberg.com \| Higher Education Debt Should Be Deductible, Rand Paul Says - Bloomberg Politics [ http://ur1.ca/ne267 ]		Aug 08 22:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/630138272799305728	Aug 08 23:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz Because what they & do are very different. Like most Pollies in it for the ego & benifits		Aug 08 23:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6438867	Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@harryhaller@nerdpol.ch: Microsoft Crime Persists: [AstroTurfing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing) a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers \| Techrights - http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ __“Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input. Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them		Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> en.wikipedia.org \| Astroturfing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ndsn6 ]		Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	Reddit: One of the drawbacks of an Anonymous (sic) network is that agents provocateur and saboteur may easily infiltrate.	Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	One thing that the French Resistance and Communist cells mostly got right were their recruitment procedures and cell structures. Modern dissidents need to think about the matter.	Aug 08 23:47
schestowitz	"	Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/e99i2 ]		Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> web.archive.org \| Microsoft Has Hired People To Make Positive Comments About Xbox One On Reddit, Contractor Says \| Business Insider Australia [ http://ur1.ca/ndsn9 ]		Aug 08 23:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org \| Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mnwj0 ]		Aug 08 23:47

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