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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that #gcse season is over let's remind ourselves #cambridge and #oxford are pedigree/dynasty cultist institutions, need ties to apply | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | "I love when words like “pedigree” and “breeding” are applied to people. It makes them sound like livestock. :)" | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6497562 | Aug 23 06:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Old] #nsa staff watching people naked 'for the lols' http://jezebel.com/the-nsa-is-looking-at-your-naked-pictures-and-laughing-1606996822 clearly not run by grownups, just immature extortionists | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> jezebel.com | The NSA Is Looking At Your Naked Pictures and Laughing [ http://ur1.ca/niu2x ] | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | "If they were to find a nude picture of me, they’d be too buys vomiting to laugh." | Aug 23 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/635388617788116993 | Aug 23 10:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Why the workplace of 2016 could echo Orwell’s 1984 @schestowitz http://t.co/c3M9ifZYBT | Aug 23 10:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Why the workplace of 2016 could echo Orwell’s 1984 | Technology | The Guardian | Aug 23 10:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/635388775502381056 | Aug 23 10:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@T_Miller_Harper: I shall just have to rely on using the scientific instruments I have, otherwise known as eyes & sky to guide my day. https://t.co/3DzGUq53XY | Aug 23 10:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #bbc is divorcing the Met Office http://t.co/BCE3z8s1h4 sad in a way. The only BBC thing I ever use. Hot day today. http://t.co/DJG39d6PwT | Aug 23 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | Not as reliable as satellite footage and analysis | Aug 23 10:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/strolltoitaly/status/635389535002697728 | Aug 23 10:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@strolltoitaly: @T_Miller_Harper Eyes and ears good for current meteorological status, not so good for umbrella stuff. | Aug 23 10:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/635390827339104256 | Aug 23 10:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz I get migraine 4 days prior to impeding storm, and bones hurt when temp drops. I make an excellent weather station IMO. | Aug 23 10:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Adeybob/status/635403223881383936 https://twitter.com/Adeybob/status/635403390051319808 | Aug 23 11:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Adeybob: @schestowitz : simple answers to simple problems...good evil...right wrong. People are stupid to think in such illogical polar extremes. | Aug 23 11:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Adeybob: @schestowitz : Adam Curtis has it sussed. | Aug 23 11:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/635403839244341249 | Aug 23 11:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: You're gonna be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist' by those who are charged w/controlling/repeating official narrative: https://t.co/DkM1nd3734 | Aug 23 11:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The false dichotomy #propaganda method is used sparingly to stereotype many sceptics (notable example is "controlled demolition" in 9/11) | Aug 23 11:53 | |
| schestowitz | My point was, officials want the public to think that everyone challenging intel' potency in 9/11 believes in "WTC demolition" | Aug 23 11:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/635406776989409280 | Aug 23 12:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: Perhaps 'changing ideology' was never the purpose; rather the more mundane 'because WE CAN'/'Murican exceptionalism? https://t.co/RjfSn69Zh2 | Aug 23 12:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The notion of killing people without trial (by the thousands) as means of changing ideology is so lame that even Russia hardly pursues it | Aug 23 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/635411263191842816 | Aug 23 12:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz No. Marriage should be based on love and commitment, not expediency. History shows dangers of alternative mind set | Aug 23 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | Ah, yes, if my joke it to be taken seriously ;-) | Aug 23 12:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/635414675388153856 | Aug 23 12:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz I gathered you were joking. But we live in a world where expediency and opportunism overrides affection & trust That is tragic! | Aug 23 12:36 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, how much do I agree with you based on what I saw... | Aug 23 12:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/635434177060556800 | Aug 23 13:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz they count 0,1,many ;-) | Aug 23 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | Five Eyes is 5. | Aug 23 13:55 |
| schestowitz | But one hat, with the same three colours | Aug 23 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/635435564913815552 | Aug 23 13:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz five eyes is one dystopian entity. Supranational oppression catalyst. | Aug 23 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635452834364788737 | Aug 23 15:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz McGovern doesn't appear to know about rebel comm intercepts tying GRU to Buk movements in east UA 7/17/14. #MH17 | Aug 23 15:19 | |
| schestowitz | Are these publicly accessible? | Aug 23 15:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635470026431197184 | Aug 23 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Women "buy" unpalatable things if sold as "feminist". Do men do the reciprocal? | Aug 23 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | yes, many examples | Aug 23 16:17 |
| schestowitz | some things are sold as "making the man stronger/more dominant" | Aug 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635471091302035456 | Aug 23 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Such as? | Aug 23 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | large cars, guns, etc. | Aug 23 16:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500692 | Aug 23 16:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: First #AmericanSniper #propaganda flick, now #AmericanUltra - making comedy of #assassination (recall #theInterview ) https://reason.com/archives/2015/08/21/movie-review-american-ultra | Aug 23 16:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500956 | Aug 23 16:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gourley and #amazon (in bed with the #cia in exchange for lots of money) give 'for' free spooks' #propaganda (e)book https://ctovision.com/2015/08/kindle-version-of-the-cyber-threat-provided-free-20-21-august-2015/ | Aug 23 16:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ctovision.com | Kindle Version of The Cyber Threat Provided Free 20-21 August 2015 - CTOvision.com [ http://ur1.ca/nj0h5 ] | Aug 23 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635471385922510848 | Aug 23 16:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Well, yes, but because they do. I still don't see how making women complicit in torture makes it "feminist". | Aug 23 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | You understood what I had written not as I intended | Aug 23 16:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635471646711750656 | Aug 23 16:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Guns do make you more dominant. And it's girls who were sold Desert Eagles in Tomb Raider. 007? Teeny-weenie Walther PPK. | Aug 23 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | What I meant by "sell" was the sale of a policy of #assassination to over 50% of the population (women) | Aug 23 16:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635472349333180417 | Aug 23 16:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Sorry, English as my second language. | Aug 23 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | Mine too | Aug 23 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635472751671803904 | Aug 23 16:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Same. Attempts to sell policies as "manly" when they clearly aren't have failed. | Aug 23 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | Sold not as manly but "patriotic" | Aug 23 16:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/635477531957657600 | Aug 23 16:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: A 'leap of faith' to understand some fucks; ancestors were brought as slaves… now wanna implement masters' agenda https://t.co/fTc9gassoe | Aug 23 16:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Not yet ready to blast American people to pieces over #immigration violations http://t.co/MoqPUEGFTd http://t.co/rsvWPNzh6k | Aug 23 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | Exactly, he can't be THAT stupid | Aug 23 16:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/635484012631465984 | Aug 23 17:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Yet we haven't invaded Turkey yet.... | Aug 23 17:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635489831972417538 | Aug 23 17:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz yes. Google "JIT video". | Aug 23 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | MH17 | Aug 23 17:53 |
| schestowitz | still not finding it | Aug 23 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635497167575220224 | Aug 23 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz "JIT video asks for witnesses" | Aug 23 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | I'm just seeing the same old images that do nothing to prove in a concrete way what's claimed | Aug 23 18:05 |
| schestowitz | What I expect to find is some authentic audio between officials saying Russia to pass missiles to take passenger plane down | Aug 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz | What have the witnesses said? I am trying to find anything implicating Russia directly, not the separatists. | Aug 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635499263347265536 | Aug 23 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz you need to do better research. JIT revealed previously unknown intercepts and got 300+ witnesses. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_de_Aviaci%C3%B3n_Flight_455 | Aug 23 18:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Cubana de Aviación Flight 455 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nj1yu ] | Aug 23 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | But they're not Russian, they're Ukrainian | Aug 23 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635500452751216640 | Aug 23 18:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz locals spoke with RU Buk crew. Different uniforms, demeanor and had Moscow accents. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | Ah, so now we're going in to the US "conspiracy theories" -- that the Ukrainians are 'fakes' and are actually Russians | Aug 23 18:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635501390610219008 | Aug 23 18:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz GRU in command of RU Buk with RU crew. Local thugs as force protection. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:19 | |
| schestowitz | No solid enough proof, proving McGovern's case against the rushed judgement | Aug 23 18:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635500062857162752 | Aug 23 18:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz plenty available. Rebel spotter, "Bird flying to you. Hard to see. Lots of clouds and (target) very high. " #MH17. | Aug 23 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635502244834734080 | Aug 23 18:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz only conspiracy nonsense is Kremlin tales of magic jets armed with magic missiles, etc. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | The crazy Kremlin claims are another story. Both side try to lie; Russia says US did it, US says Russia did it. Ukrainians did it. | Aug 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635504532907233280 | Aug 23 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz So, how come does it oppose immigration restriction on the Mexican border? | Aug 23 18:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6492785 | Aug 23 21:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If #canonical is pressured by #mozilla to make #firefox link to #microsoft (through #yahoo proxy), then move to #iceweasel or #icecat | Aug 23 21:47 | |
| schestowitz | Seamonkey too?"" | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | "If Firefox already comes with non free software, no gnu/linux distribution should use it." | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | "… unless they’re interested in giving users freedom of choice - right?" | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | changing users' preferences is not choice | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6497582 | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I guess ordinary people are powerless, leaders of both these nations want to dominate the planet. We know China is corrupt, but USA is the worst, it has slipped into oligarchy. | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | The politicians in India are no different to those in USA. We have slipped in oligarchy and none in my nation notices it :/ | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 21:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I guess #FiveEyes could I argue that, since I helped #Huawei with a site promoting #android phones, I am 'naughty' http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/afbddb44-7640-11e2-8eb6-00144feabdc0.html | Aug 23 21:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.ft.com | Death in Singapore - FT.com [ http://ur1.ca/czadc ] | Aug 23 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | Modi is not the very worst, although he too pays a visit to his bosses in US corporations, among others | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500210 | Aug 23 21:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: John Kiriakaou: FORMER #CIA LEADERS WRITE BOOK TO #WHITEWASH #TORTURE HISTORY http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/FEATURE-NEWS/FORMER-CIA-LEADERS-WRITE-BOOK-TO-WHITEWASH-TORTURE-HISTORY-br-I-Former-agency-counterterrorism-officer-says-he-knows-they-are-lying-I-2228390 | Aug 23 21:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.skyvalleychronicle.com | FORMER CIA LEADERS WRITE BOOK TO WHITEWASH TORTURE HISTORY <I>Former agency counterterrorism officer says he knows they are lying</I> | FEATURE NEWS | Sky Valley Chronicle Washington State News [ http://ur1.ca/nj4ah ] | Aug 23 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | "a nice guy" | Aug 23 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/marialuis91/status/635426810918928384?cn=cmVwbHk%3D&refsrc=email | Aug 23 22:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@marialuis91: @schestowitz @NafeezAhmed Meet the Yazidi Father and Daughter Creating a Unit to Fight ISIS. http://t.co/dLTG3Bkr2H | Aug 23 22:41 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.awdnews.com | Meet the Yazidi Father and Daughter Creating a Unit to Fight ISIS - AWD News | Aug 23 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6501515 | Aug 23 22:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "working as a petroleum engineer in the Yemeni province of Hadramawt when he was kidnapped" http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-british-hostage-freed-yemen-20150823-story.html #yemen | Aug 23 22:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.latimes.com | UAE army frees British hostage as Al Qaeda expands in Yemen - LA Times [ http://ur1.ca/nj4wl ] | Aug 23 22:52 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | UAE army allied with al Qaeda: | Aug 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Al Qaeda, a Sunni extremist group, has allied with some of the forces battling the Houthis. | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | The UAE has military forces in Aden and is part of a Saudi-led coalition of mostly Arab countries that has been bombing the Houthis and their allies since late March. | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500555 | Aug 23 22:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US Wants To Increase Global Lethal And Surveillance #Drone Flights To 30,000 By 2019 http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-wants-to-increase-global-lethal-and-surveillance-drone-flights-to-30000-by-2019/208774/ automating imperialis 's guard | Aug 23 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mintpressnews.com | US Wants To Increase Global Lethal And Surveillance Drone Flights To 30,000 By 2019 [ http://ur1.ca/nj4wp ] | Aug 23 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, Idiots, I think we need more surveillance. Why do people always have other opinions than I have? | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Now we only need Trump for president and the picture is complete. Americans do not have the brains to rule the world! | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500237 | Aug 23 22:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media in the West reinforces/covers only easy-to-discredit sceptics, e.g. "US took down MH17", "9/11 controlled demolition" | Aug 23 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | "strawman arguments used to ridicule - old technique used on discussion forums - deliberately misunderstand - hence - misquote other poster.' | Aug 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500631 | Aug 23 22:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Telling #china to stop spying on #us "Damages American Interests" according to this plutocrats' rag http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenharner/2015/08/19/the-obama-administration-betrays-american-interests-in-blocking-chinas-anti-corruption-efforts/ #hypocrisy too | Aug 23 22:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.forbes.com | The Obama Administration Damages American Interests In Blocking China's Anti-Corruption Efforts [ http://ur1.ca/nj4x6 ] | Aug 23 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | "The corrupt go to the US because there corruption pays off, “birds of a feather flock together”. Cant have China being seen as less corrupt than the US, would damage their reputation." | Aug 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6501079 | Aug 23 22:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Could ‘Licence to kill’ be the solution to Scarborough’s seagull woes? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/could-licence-to-kill-be-the-solution-to-scarborough-s-seagull-woes-1-7419536 what next? Geese? Squirrels? | Aug 23 22:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.yorkshirepost.co.uk | Could ‘Licence to kill’ be the solution to Scarborough’s seagull woes? - Yorkshire Post [ http://ur1.ca/nj47z ] | Aug 23 22:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes but no thanks to government’s pilot scheme to cull them a little while back." | Aug 23 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BanditPoe/status/635611256590831616 | Aug 24 05:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BanditPoe: what about the Vietnamese and Cambodians killing Their own people? @Tinawanis @AlnicoII @aprilpole https://t.co/Mw2l1Minhw | Aug 24 05:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Man who's responsible for genocide in #laos and its neighbours still alive http://t.co/QjEUWy38Vg #kissinger | Aug 24 05:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635673454105247744 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635673876635238400 | Aug 24 06:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @CT4444 The Snizhne Buk ship has sailed and won't return. No western rocket scientist to dispute Almaz-Antey's analysis. #MH17 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @CT4444 It was either a Ukrainian Buk fired from Zeroschenskoe, or no Buk at all. #MH17 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635674541809881088 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635674557144256512 https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635674967494000640 | Aug 24 06:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @schestowitz @MJoyce2244 Launch point pretty much nails it. The other evidence collected by JIT will sew it up, no problem. #MH17 | Aug 24 06:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @CT4444 Oops, typo. It's Zaroschenskoe. #MH17 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz U R so funny. You've been defending SU-25 fantasy all along. Glad to see U admit BUK. #MH17 Snizhne!! | Aug 24 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635676557131022336 https://twitter.com/Stredni_trida/status/635676877999489024 | Aug 24 06:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz Simple. Go ask your pal Putin to lay his SBIRS or other sat detection data on table. #MH17 | Aug 24 06:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Stredni_trida: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz #MH17 - no #BUK at all. #UkraineDIDit | Aug 24 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoSethArmstrong/status/635677852453720065 https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635677974470217728 | Aug 24 06:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NoSethArmstrong: @CT4444 @schestowitz Taking any notice of eli or ari is something akin to taking Mystic Meg as gospel.Wake up people,it's just a job these 2 | Aug 24 06:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz BWAHAHA! No one can be this dense. The old SU-25-as-#MH17-murder-weapon-clinger-on now flips to BUK? | Aug 24 06:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jetagodi/status/635679173051305984 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635681031077654528 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635682822792060928 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635683193438515201 | Aug 24 06:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Jetagodi: @MJoyce2244 Tapes say nothing about BUK,only mention "car" back to russia. Only subjective interpretation makes your story fit @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @loondale False dichotomy. I still believe that jets were there, because many people saw them. #MH17 @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @loondale BBC interviewed some of the witnesses after the #MH17 crash, then deleted their statements. @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @loondale To me that's a clear indication of western involvement. Why else delete witness accounts? #MH17 @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6501435 | Aug 24 06:37 |
| schestowitz | "I have heard that the golden dream of many Mexicans is Mexico going the way of Texas and California so maybe they might not mind." | Aug 24 06:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Proposition of armed drones along US/Mexico border, courtesy of #gop http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/23/carson-wants-to-use-drones-on-the-border-to-take-out-caves-not-people-video/ wouldn't be long before people hit | Aug 24 06:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dailycaller.com | Carson Wants To Use Drone On the Border To Take Out Caves, Not People | The Daily Caller [ http://ur1.ca/nj9m5 ] | Aug 24 06:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6492863 | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft booster Weinberger calls #github "Facebook for programmers" http://www.businessinsider.in/The-9-most-popular-computer-languages-according-to-the-Facebook-for-programmers/articleshow/48558504.cms does he realise how much of an insult it is? | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businessinsider.in | The 9 most popular computer languages, according to the Facebook for programmers | Business Insider India [ http://ur1.ca/nilwg ] | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | Libreboot said both github and gitorious were working against the free software community and owned by people with very bad attitude. Libreboot also urged setting up independent git repos. | Aug 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20150420115042/http://www.libreboot.org/gitorious/ | Aug 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | and | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | Please do not use Gitorious! [ http://ur1.ca/nj9n7 ] | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2015-03/msg00001.html | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.nongnu.org | [Libreboot] gitorious (aka gitlab) [ http://ur1.ca/nj9n8 ] | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | The Gitlab’s bad attitude smells like Microsoft, as does all of the attention the Microsoft press has given them. I am projecting a FB like operation to Github based on Microsoft’s attitude towards all developer forums and one to many media. | Aug 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500188 | Aug 24 06:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If #drone executions are changing ideology in any way, well, it's clear that they do exactly the opposite of what's advertised by the media | Aug 24 06:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | It’s not easy but fortunately there is a lot of goos made in China nowadays so I just pick the ones with no US brand. | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday I bought a new fridge, it was Daewoo, no US companies involved. Hope when the US economy goes even lower people there remember people like me. | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6492785 | Aug 24 06:43 |
| schestowitz | "Wrong, Outshined. Non free software eliminates freedom of choice. To chose non free software is to chose a master." | Aug 24 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If #canonical is pressured by #mozilla to make #firefox link to #microsoft (through #yahoo proxy), then move to #iceweasel or #icecat | Aug 24 06:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500152 | Aug 24 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #clinton actions shock top spies http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/cias-bob-baer-says-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-is-deal-breaker-45745/ http://www.examiner.com/article/former-cia-chief-hillary-clinton-s-actions-a-danger-to-the-nation http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/cias-bob-baer-says-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-is-deal-breaker-45745/ | Aug 24 06:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theglobaldispatch.com | CIA’s Bob Baer says Hillary Clinton’s email scandal is ‘deal breaker’ - The Global Dispatch [ http://ur1.ca/nj47t ] | Aug 24 06:43 | |
| schestowitz | "If she did become Republican, how would we tell?" | Aug 24 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.examiner.com | Former CIA chief: Hillary Clinton's actions a danger to the nation - National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/nj47u ] | Aug 24 06:43 | |
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| schestowitz | >>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/24/us-france-train-shots-lawyer-idUSKCN0QS0HF20150824 | Aug 24 10:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reuters.com | French train gunman 'dumbfounded' by terrorist tag | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/njbmo ] | Aug 24 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> taquiya | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > What does that mean? | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Authorized / encouraged lying to further their jihad. There are | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > spelling variants since it is a transliteration. There is also a | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > variant, lying by omission, but that I think is not relevant here. | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Maybe what the lawyer told him to say, painting him as a hungry victim. | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/635750624127160320 | Aug 24 10:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz yep, story of my life | Aug 24 10:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/635837455925706752 | Aug 25 01:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Flash is dying a death by 1,000 cuts, and that's a good thing @schestowitz http://t.co/HLZ8MfrW1s | Aug 25 01:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Flash is dying a death by 1,000 cuts, and that's a good thing | Technology | The Guardian | Aug 25 01:27 | |
| MinceR | html5 becoming the new flash is not such a good thing | Aug 25 01:28 |
| schestowitz | with DRM | Aug 25 01:59 |
| schestowitz | under a new euphemism | Aug 25 01:59 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 25 02:01 |
| schestowitz | EME was it? | Aug 25 02:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 25 02:20 |
| MinceR | Extremely Malicious Extensions | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I'll remember that | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | and Firefox swallowed | Aug 25 02:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't think a single Linux browser did | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | GNOME/KDE projects I mean... | Aug 25 02:21 |
| schestowitz | they never should, I don't want such crap. Would rather watch nothing that requires it than have it on my system | Aug 25 02:21 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6498550 | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cisco, Red Hat create platform for IoT innovation http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/08/21/cisco-red-hat-create-platform-for-iot-innovation-openstack/ #redhat #cisco #linux | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I can see why I might want various objects to communicate, but under my control not the control of a bunch of companies." | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> siliconangle.com | Cisco, Red Hat create platform for IoT innovation | #OpenStack | SiliconANGLE [ http://ur1.ca/niu11 ] | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | Esp. Cisco, the back doors vendor | Aug 25 04:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6503301 | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canadians are suing #AshleyMadison because a lack of prophylactic protection http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2418367/hackers-breach-cheaters-website-ashleymadison-in-data-debrief-encounter #windows http://techrights.org/2015/08/20/ashley-madison-microsoft-windows/ | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | "What happened to “I have nothing to hide, my life is boring”?" | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theinquirer.net | Canadians are suing Ashley Madison over the lack of prophylactic protection- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/njnij ] | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Ashley Madison Disaster Apparently the Fault of Microsoft Windows | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/njnim ] | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | People forget what they hide from some people, or pretend they have nothing to be blackmailed over | Aug 25 04:05 |
| schestowitz | Midland Hotel Spa After Renovation http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Spa-at-the-Midland | Aug 25 05:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Spa at the Midland [ http://ur1.ca/n7anh ] | Aug 25 05:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507386 | Aug 25 12:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #linux has new releases every 3 days or so. #windows every 3 years. Proprietary slow. http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-timeline.txt | Aug 25 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | what is very often ? every 3 days is very often also | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Do you think windows10 wil have a new release every 3 days ? I don’t think so… | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | no because windows 10 will be updated very often. | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Indeed updated … it is not different to new release | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Well, at least windows 10 is always lesser than GNU/Linux because : | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | more bugs | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | more backdoors | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | more lacks security | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | nothing really new (transparent windows decorations, visual effects, multi desktops, package manager, true terminal, etc are well known with GNU/Linux since 2k) | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | managed my a company and not by a community | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | totaly open to survey, data-hovering, commercial ads, viruses, malwares, etc | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | The Windows 'ecosystem' is slow and clumsy | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507286 | Aug 25 12:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My old computers can't deal well with summer. Overheating and shutting down almost every day this past week. | Aug 25 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | "If they’re old, you might want to check, if the power supply and all fans, filters, heatsinks might need a cleaning. They tend to dust up over time, reducing airflow significantly." | Aug 25 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Cleaning quite recent on my old working machine... the overheating issue is why I dumped it some years ago... after summer | Aug 25 12:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507419 | Aug 25 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If your government officials use #skype for 'internal' communication, then perhaps they are not qualified to have become officials | Aug 25 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | "remember when they used to lose laptops in the tube? :)' | Aug 25 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Not to worry, nothing to hide.... | Aug 25 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507342 | Aug 25 12:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Imposing the use of #windows at schools a little similar (to use another domain) forcing students to buy and drink Coca Cola™ | Aug 25 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | "in the days of wordperfect, ms would tell schools that business used word® and tell business that pupils learnt word®. Linux needs “sales”-people." | Aug 25 12:29 |
| schestowitz | "linux floss" | Aug 25 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Sales as a barrier shows that the system is corrupt. fix the system instead. | Aug 25 12:30 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | There is some spam comments lately. For example http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/74640#comment-16425 | Aug 25 12:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy Easter and Remarkable Spring | Tux Machines [ http://ur1.ca/njsxm ] | Aug 25 12:55 | |
| schestowitz | Is it possible to implement a "report comment" button? | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | rianna and I usually catch this quickly. Allowing every registered user to report (delete) items would open the door for abuse.... | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/99bazaar/status/636144051075608576 | Aug 25 12:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@99bazaar: #ShareTheLove @SavSydney @schestowitz @evan_bang for being top HighValue members this week :) (insight by http://t.co/Kkolol6hmm) | Aug 25 12:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commun.it | Twitter Community Management Dashboard | Twitter Marketing Tool | Commun.it | Aug 25 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/valeryan24/status/636147311102529536 | Aug 25 13:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@valeryan24: @schestowitz I'm not a specialist, just I noticed since Ubuntu moved to #Systemd I get a LOT of bugs (hard disk change, start, upgrade fail) | Aug 25 13:09 | |
| schestowitz | Same for me, with Kubuntu | Aug 25 13:09 |
| schestowitz | > You guys really know how to celebrate an event. | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > When was her birthday? Didn't Rianne have a tantrum when you included her age in the picture collection? Most women would have had a strong complaint. | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > P | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > From my perspective, after 61 years of marriage, it looks like you both are enjoying married life and that is wonderful. Cherish what you have now because as the years pass, memory of good times fade to be replaced over time with more recent events, but in your case you have so many pictures you could relive your the good times whenever...and that is always fun. | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't going to include the age in the album name, but I couldn't do so because there's already an album with that name (last year's). ;-) | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/636158063460884480 | Aug 25 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @Jetagodi nope. Masses of evidence showing RU Buk in Snizhne. #MH17 @masamikuramoto @roarbro @loondale @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 25 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zeth0/status/636167872411238400 | Aug 25 14:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zeth0: I added systemd to my desktop and it worked fine, the rest has been through new installs which have also been fine. https://t.co/Qsfr87iJGN | Aug 25 14:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Even though #Debian has moved to #systemd as default a long while ago now, I've stayed with sysv" http://t.co/2hVkradjbn | Aug 25 14:28 | |
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| *[freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | Aug 25 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/636178685561860096 | Aug 25 15:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: @schestowitz link? | Aug 25 15:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6505972 | Aug 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "I shouldn’t say that I’m surprised…but I’m surprised, at least a little. The Software Centre was never given a particularly first-class experience; the app catalogue was sparse at best." | Aug 25 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507386 | Aug 25 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "indeed" | Aug 25 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6506993 | Aug 26 12:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you thought #greece issues were just a Greek thing, brace and prepare for a potentially though week/month. Not fun/funny. | Aug 26 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Always is someone else’s problem so you don’t care until it’s your problem and no one else cares." | Aug 26 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510548 | Aug 26 12:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #redhat uses meaningless buzzwords: "Red Hat Certified Cloud" http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150825005090/en/ReadySpace-Achieves-Red-Hat-Cloud-Service-Provider | Aug 26 12:12 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businesswire.com | ReadySpace Achieves Red Hat Cloud and Service Provider Certification | Business Wire [ http://ur1.ca/nk71z ] | Aug 26 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | "tell RH that “certified” is ambiguous in UK english aka “sectioned” :D" | Aug 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_commitment | Aug 26 12:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Involuntary commitment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nk722 ] | Aug 26 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507087 | Aug 26 12:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rianne's 37th Birthday http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Rianne-s-37th-Birthday yesterday | Aug 26 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Happy birthday to her. =)" | Aug 26 12:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> schestowitz.com | Rianne's 37th Birthday [ http://ur1.ca/nk72d ] | Aug 26 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | She says, "thank you" | Aug 26 12:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510766 | Aug 26 12:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sources of #uk empire stabbed in the back http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3209487/Heroes-sign-petition-save-Afghans-Former-head-Army-leads-calls-translators-given-safe-haven-Britain.html "used and hung out to dry" -iophk | Aug 26 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 12:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.dailymail.co.uk | War heroes sign petition for Afghan translators to be given safe haven in Britain | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/nk72x ] | Aug 26 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | Aiding and abetting the enemy of their country. | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | What they expect? | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Agatha Christie wrote that the traitor is more detestable then the enemy - indeed one can respect the enemy for fighting for his side. | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Sentiments which Daily Wail readers can understand. | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | "Anyway - we already have too many Tory voters :D" | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Haha, got it... | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | >> > My concern is that this helps distract from FSF 30. More revisionism | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | >> > giving credit to a Finnish lad in 1991. The more it goes on, the | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | >> > stronger the history rewrite becomes and harder it is to challenge. | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > Yes that is a more salient point. GNU is what is important. | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > Unfortunately M$ owns the mainstream media and has been rewriting | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > history for at least a decade. | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://dilbert.com/search_results?page=4&terms=Mom | Aug 26 12:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-dilbert.com | Search Results for Mom | Dilbert by Scott Adams [ http://ur1.ca/nk74z ] | Aug 26 12:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507180 | Aug 26 18:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not many people recall (or even know) that #obama site promising lots of things at elections got edited over time to delete/change promises | Aug 26 18:47 | |
| schestowitz | "A lot of people didn’t notice that he ran the same campaign twice. Once for his first election and the same one for his second election. Neither time has he attempted to make good on any of his promises and yet he was voted in the second time anyway." | Aug 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "He was progressive in his rhetoric when he wanted the progressive vote. At all other times and in every other way, he functions as a neoconservative, spreading war, intruding on privacy, and refusing to question neoliberalism." | Aug 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | I never believed him in the first place (2007) | Aug 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6505917 | Aug 26 18:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help http://news.softpedia.com/news/solus-operating-system-arrives-on-october-1-but-it-needs-your-help-489897.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 26 18:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkb1r ] | Aug 26 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | "What do you think of the OS? Just ran it in a VM for a couple minutes. Seems like it would be alright. Budgie desktop is coming into it’s own, I think." | Aug 26 18:49 |
| schestowitz | I never used it, I don't have high hoped for it to be frank (small team) | Aug 26 18:49 |
| schestowitz | which phone do you recommend that does not have a back door? | Aug 26 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6506042 | Aug 26 18:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nothing to do with #android (people choose weak patterns) and requires physical access anyway http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/android-lock-patterns-are-highly-predictable-could-give-people-access-to-phones-10469314.html | Aug 26 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | "which phone do you recommend that does not have a back door?" | Aug 26 18:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.independent.co.uk | Android lock patterns are highly predictable, could give people access to phones - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/njnhf ] | Aug 26 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh yes sure, I don’t trust my phone at all but the extra protection is there, might help in some scenario IE if phone is stolen" | Aug 26 18:50 |
| schestowitz | I use a Palm PDA, cannot be tracked (no GPS etc.), cannot be accessed from the back door (no connection) | Aug 26 18:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6511377 | Aug 26 19:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Everybody Hates When You Use Your Phone at Dinner http://time.com/4010146/smartphones-dinner/ antisocial behaviour. Also helps spy (listen/watch) on everyone. | Aug 26 19:15 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> time.com | Using Phone at Dinner Really Is Obnoxious, Study Finds [ http://ur1.ca/nkbeb ] | Aug 26 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Somebody had a brilliant idea of napkin-like envelopes, that acted as faraday cages, where phones could be deposited in on the table. | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Doesn’t protect against passive voice recording, but at least no signal (if it works as advertised). | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe one day we'll have more banners saying "no phones" (listening/camera/tracking), just like "no smoking" in particular areas | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510822 | Aug 26 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Environmentalists Blast Obama's Decision to Let #Shell Drill in #Arctic http://www.alternet.org/misguided-and-wrong-environmentalists-blast-obamas-decision-let-shell-drill-arctic "looks more like an extinction plan" | Aug 26 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | "All those ‘environmentalists’ voted for him." | Aug 26 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | Environmentalists Blast Obama's Decision to Let Shell Drill in Arctic | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/nkbf1 ] | Aug 26 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | Should have voted Green party | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510742 | Aug 26 19:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Chauvinist for President 2016. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/25/trump-renews-attack-on-megyn-kelly-and-she-gets/205148 the same A-hole who funds competition that treats women like mere objects. | Aug 26 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Trump is just a distraction. Like Dubya." | Aug 26 19:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | Trump Renews Attack On Megyn Kelly, And She Gets A Full-Throated Fox Defense | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/nkbfc ] | Aug 26 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | But he's dangerous. Even if he just hangs around in politics. | Aug 26 19:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507022 | Aug 26 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: By trying to warp #MH17 story in some of the most ridiculous of ways, #kremlin ensures that nobody will ever trust any of its words again | Aug 26 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just historically. Do you think Russia is prepared to acknowledge its imperialist nature and to give up its ill-gotten territories? | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | No, no more than the U.S. Which is my point. | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Their influence beyond the "eastern bloc" is diminished, even in S America | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes. RMS and all that. | Aug 26 19:27 |
| schestowitz | "Yes. RMS and all that." | Aug 26 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510474 | Aug 26 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LinuxFoundation starts security vetting program for FOSS http://www.itnews.com.au/News/408402,linux-foundation-starts-security-vetting-program-for-foss.aspx #linux #security | Aug 26 19:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.itnews.com.au | Linux Foundation starts security vetting program for FOSS - Security - Software - News - iTnews.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/nkbdj ] | Aug 26 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | person, software, foundation... | Aug 26 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/businessweblab/status/636622386599735296 | Aug 26 20:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@businessweblab: correct https://t.co/bw81VCs0Wu | Aug 26 20:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #plasma 5.4 is not yet ready for the latest #kubuntu - probably just a matter of time. Hopefully too squash the many bugs... | Aug 26 20:34 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: in http://techrights.org/2015/08/26/dcos-microsoft-trap/ "trying to make GNU/Linux just subservient to GNU/Linux" looks like a typo | Aug 26 20:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft-connected Mesosphere Threatens to Eliminate Free Software in the Datacentre | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nkcpp ] | Aug 26 20:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ch_s/status/636643986275483648 | Aug 26 22:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ch_s: @schestowitz @firefox @BrendanEich : exactly. To me it stems from a lack of focus. See my 2014 post about this: http://t.co/eH4EOihVap | Aug 26 22:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'standardsandfreedom.net' ( status 0 @ http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/05/24/mozilla-a-tale-of-gentrification/ ) | Aug 26 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6513039 | Aug 26 22:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This article is more utter BS, maybe staged #propaganda (misleading, inaccurate) http://www.fiercecio.com/story/report-one-major-linux-migration-went-awry/2015-08-26 see http://techrights.org/2015/08/26/mccarthyism-in-germany/ | Aug 26 22:11 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 22:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.fiercecio.com | Report: 1 major Linux migration that went awry - FierceCIO [ http://ur1.ca/nkdo9 ] | Aug 26 22:11 | |
| schestowitz | I use GNU/Linux Debian, Ubuntu, Mint and MS Win7, Win8.1 and Apple OSX. There is nothing I couldn’t use on my Mint or Ubuntu Desktop. And for a few programs (regexcoach) I have to use Wine (Windows Emulation). | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Some games (Live For Speed, CoD) run even faster in Wine than on my Win7 Desktop (dual boot). Most people are afraid to try something different. Believe me Win10 is also different from Win7 or Win8.1. | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Stop using closed standards. LibreOffice is a beautiful product.:) | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: right, typo | Aug 26 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Will fix it | Aug 26 22:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 26 22:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft Aggression Against GNU/Linux Amid Vista 10′s Failure | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nkdop ] | Aug 26 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636647002718257152 | Aug 26 22:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz He quit. Which was probably the right thing to do. | Aug 26 22:13 | |
| schestowitz | After a lot of pressure from the inside Eich stepped down. Under pressure. | Aug 26 22:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636648936300785664 | Aug 26 22:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Pressure to do the right thing? So what? Bigotry is incompatible with Mozilla's values, and those employees who are LGBQT. | Aug 26 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | I know it's an old debate, and it can go on for a while... he had already apologised | Aug 26 22:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/636653611079106560 | Aug 26 22:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fth_nix: So sad to see cyanogen fall, be good if they built into ffos :) https://t.co/KZxhIvAE7f | Aug 26 22:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #oneplus should dump #cyanogen ASAP; it's not polluted by #microsoft #spyware based on http://t.co/CEAD0f9Unq http://t.co/U6r8WwAaDc | Aug 26 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | Should say "now" as opposed to "not" (typo) | Aug 26 22:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ii4ym/microsoft_at_linuxcon/ | Aug 26 22:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft at LinuxCon : linux [ http://ur1.ca/nkea9 ] | Aug 26 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft guys are really weaselling their selves in. I guess this is: If you can't beat them, join them. | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | They are dirt bags and that's it. | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | "They want to embrace you..." | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Yes, and when they smile they stab you in the back. | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | What this company has done in all these decades, it's unbelievable. Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer belong in jail. I am not kidding. | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Even skimreading TechRights, everything written there is absolutely dripping with hatred for anything that could possibly be construed for being Pro-Microsoft | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure the guy behind the site is so indoctrinated into his own hatred, he'd write something about a food cart vendor in downtown Seattle daring to sell a Microsoft employee a hot dog | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Zero argument on the article | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | mind you | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | just personal attack on me | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | so I guess he didn't spot any errors | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | "I'm no fan of MS or Ballmer. Gates is doing good in other parts of the world but his tactics in software sucks. But to say that they belong in jail is a bit of a strech...fined, perhaps. Not jail. We have too many in jail for dumb crap." | Aug 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "That's what I think. "Join them and hope they go under but use them while we can."" | Aug 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "Techrights is a riot. I got into a few arguments with the guy who started back when it was Boycott Novell. That was some fun times." | Aug 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "On unrelated news, CMU student is recruited by the NSA." | Aug 26 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6513491 | Aug 26 23:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CMU Student Pleads Guilty To Making [same thing #fiveeyes #espionage agencies and #hackingteam do] http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2015/08/25/cmu-student-to-plead-guilty-to-making-spy-app-for-android/ #doublestandard | Aug 26 23:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> pittsburgh.cbslocal.com | CMU Student To Plead Guilty To Making Spy App For Android « CBS Pittsburgh [ http://ur1.ca/nkekq ] | Aug 26 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | Entrapment followed by recruitment by #gchq is quite a standard procedure in the #uk - I've heard personal stories. Probably the same with #nsa | Aug 26 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6513413 | Aug 26 23:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: National Association Of #Hispanic Journalists Condemns #DonaldTrump For Ejecting Univision's Jorge Ramos http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/26/national-association-of-hispanic-journalists-co/205173 | Aug 26 23:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | National Association Of Hispanic Journalists Condemns Donald Trump For Ejecting Univision's Jorge Ramos | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/nkelg ] | Aug 26 23:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507022 | Aug 27 00:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: By trying to warp #MH17 story in some of the most ridiculous of ways, #kremlin ensures that nobody will ever trust any of its words again | Aug 27 00:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Their influence looms large among BRICS countries and those that do business with BRICS countries. Their influence will be increased if, as I’m inclined to think likely, the BRICS bank actually starts getting involved in developing world projects and if, though this right now seems a lot less likely, the U.S. dollar loses its position as the world’s reserve currency." | Aug 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/636680090298912768 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID. | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/636680563760476160 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @FrancisJeffrey7 @schestowitz This picture proved how stupid it was to patent a slab. | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/636680565253476352 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AJimenez1988 @schestowitz Photo: iPad in 1968 movie "2001: a Space Odyssey". See also-- http://t.co/zUNY0rVGVz http://t.co/Pi0m2LHKab | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fusion.net | This real-life supercomputer inspired HAL 9000, the evil AI from '2001: A Space Odyssey' | Fusion | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AJimenez1988 @schestowitz Photo: iPad in 1968 movie "2001: a Space Odyssey". See also-- http://t.co/zUNY0rVGVz http://t.co/Pi0m2LHKab | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/636681661309186048 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Free software also powers conservative or reactionary movements. It's diverse and customisable. DIY in action. | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636685714751488000 | Aug 27 00:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz I didn't know that—got a link? | Aug 27 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | Not offhand, but he said he had changed his mind since 2008 or so when he gave $1000 (IIRC) to the opposition | Aug 27 00:46 |
| schestowitz | I too changed my mind, less than a decade ago | Aug 27 00:46 |
| schestowitz | "Did someone say propaganda?" | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | "This reads like the author lives on another planet. This whole site is mindless propoganda." | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Attacking the messenger onlu | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/message-to-linuxcon-regarding-microsoft.html | Aug 27 01:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxtoday.com | Linux Today - Message to LinuxCon Regarding Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/nkfwa ] | Aug 27 01:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Heh...and it's not like these idiots haven't been shown that Microsoft's just an ol' rattlesnake, either. Microsoft doesn't love Linux- they loathe it. It's basically displaced them out of many of their main markets and is about to displace them out of more of them beginning in November of this year. Just because they wanted to pay for things...doesn't mean I'd take it. Just because I took it, I wouldn't give them **ANY** preferential | Aug 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | treatment. That's how they dismantle things like they do." | Aug 27 01:01 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you missed something. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Its not like Microsoft funded people have not been at Linux conference. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Normally Microsoft would do it by Proxy. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| oiaohm | The big thing now is they are having todo it directly. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| schestowitz | which is maybe worse | Aug 27 01:09 |
| oiaohm | Remember its not free for companies to run presentation at Linux conference. | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | more obnoxious for people who pay to attend | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | not people whose employer paid for ot | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | which means they need to shut up | Aug 27 01:09 |
| oiaohm | Cost of conference has to be covered by some means. | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | or the employer directly funding the conference, hotel, food arrangements etc. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Now if Microsoft going to foot the bill. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | not good | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Soo.. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | how about I give keynote at MS conference | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | would Satya allow this? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | How about Torbvalds? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Or Zemlin? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | RMS as keynote at MS HEC? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | That wouldn't happen | Aug 27 01:10 |
| oiaohm | We have allowed a keynote from a Mono lead developer before. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | but Microsoft, the criminal, gets carte blanche | Aug 27 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Of course it cost Novell some serous coin. | Aug 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | because it bribes people and wants to actually destory the events | Aug 27 01:11 |
| oiaohm | How conferences are funded is mostly doing deals with devils. | Aug 27 01:11 |
| oiaohm | And working out how little you can give them and get the money you need to run the event. | Aug 27 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Remember Linux conference are key meet ups in person to swap important things for development like encryption signing keys. | Aug 27 01:12 |
| oiaohm | That is why doing a deal with Microsoft where they have to pay I don't see as too bad of a problem. The conference don't happen the effects on development can be fatal. | Aug 27 01:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: remember the conference that Linux gave Nvidia the finger was super insulting to Nvidia thinking they were one of the sponsers paying for the event. | Aug 27 01:14 |
| oiaohm | Linux/Linus | Aug 27 01:14 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that is the thing the deals with Nvidia and others are no worse than the deals with Microsoft. | Aug 27 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Of course Microsoft will want to think they can get disruption this way but history with Nvidia and others say they are fooling self. | Aug 27 01:17 |
| MinceR | http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/ | Aug 27 01:18 |
| MinceR | "So by injecting Microsoft content into the conference, the conference got shut down." | Aug 27 01:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | 66 Pages of Microsoft Evilness | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ejg20 ] | Aug 27 01:19 | |
| MinceR | screw the coin, they shouldn't get to talk at such places. | Aug 27 01:19 |
| MinceR | (also, money is still something they have a lot of, and they buy leverage and influence for it) | Aug 27 01:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: You have to remember the "Hire a Shill" card | Aug 27 01:23 |
| oiaohm | If you say Microsoft cannot present they will do what they have done with Novell and others to be there by Proxy. | Aug 27 01:23 |
| MinceR | the proxies should be banned too | Aug 27 01:24 |
| oiaohm | You may not know a company was a proxy until after the conference then more damage is done to the conference. | Aug 27 01:24 |
| MinceR | still, you can do your best | Aug 27 01:24 |
| oiaohm | This is really dealing with devils. | Aug 27 01:25 |
| oiaohm | You know Nvidia and others at Linux conferences are also devils. | Aug 27 01:25 |
| MinceR | is it their mission as well to kill gnu and linux? | Aug 27 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Reality is Nvidia is a bigger problem than Microsoft. | Aug 27 01:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Aug 27 01:27 |
| MinceR | what does nvidia want to replace gnu/linux and android with? | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Lets start off with basics what is Linux kernel default graphical envornment. | Aug 27 01:28 |
| MinceR | none | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Wrong | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel framebuffer | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | What support does Nvidia give for 3d acceleration using just the framebuffer the answer is none. Only support you have is use the open source drivers. | Aug 27 01:29 |
| oiaohm | Of course Linux kernel is now moving to KMS and Nvidia support for that is still crap. | Aug 27 01:30 |
| MinceR | so nvidia provides crappy support for their hw for linux | Aug 27 01:30 |
| MinceR | m$ tries to destroy it outright | Aug 27 01:30 |
| MinceR | which is worse? | Aug 27 01:30 |
| oiaohm | That was just intro. What Nvidia full does is still worse. | Aug 27 01:32 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia want to always sell the newest card and force depreation of older cards. | Aug 27 01:32 |
| MinceR | meanwhile we can still buy intel or amd | Aug 27 01:33 |
| MinceR | or even arm | Aug 27 01:33 |
| oiaohm | The problem is Nvidia crappy support is intetional. | Aug 27 01:33 |
| oiaohm | Even Microsoft has end up head to head with nvidia and had to bend over and take it or Nvidia would not make Microsoft drivers any more. | Aug 27 01:34 |
| MinceR | and yet none of this affects you if you use non-nvidia gpu | Aug 27 01:35 |
| oiaohm | ATI before being aquired by AMD was worse for Linux than current day Nvidia. | Aug 27 01:35 |
| MinceR | intel is still better than either, gpu-wise | Aug 27 01:35 |
| oiaohm | Intel only really started recenting investing in making serous quality video cards. | Aug 27 01:35 |
| oiaohm | When wintel was going well Intel was here is the gpu documentation without help see if you can make it work its not our problem. | Aug 27 01:36 |
| oiaohm | All these things are highly damaging if you will get a OS to run. | Aug 27 01:37 |
| MinceR | and destroying the kernel/OS you were using isn't? | Aug 27 01:37 |
| MinceR | trying to transform the industry so you don't even get to choose what "your" "computer" runs isn't? | Aug 27 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Intel ATI and Nvidia have all being attempting todo that. | Aug 27 01:39 |
| oiaohm | One more hostile at a Linux conference is not really going to make much difference. | Aug 27 01:39 |
| MinceR | it is, if it's well known to be hostile | Aug 27 01:40 |
| MinceR | read the plamondon interview | Aug 27 01:40 |
| oiaohm | The fun part about the Microsoft loves Linux thing is it cause MS Trolls issues. | Aug 27 01:41 |
| oiaohm | No matter what Microsoft does at Linux conferences will not stop Legal departments in companies looking at Microsoft and hating them. | Aug 27 01:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: wintel days intel video card documentation contained many intentional errors. So at that time of history intel was Linux hostile. | Aug 27 01:43 |
| MinceR | because they were allied with m$ | Aug 27 01:44 |
| oiaohm | UEFI the signing bit only go in standard with Intel support. | Aug 27 01:44 |
| oiaohm | I would be more care on using the word were. | Aug 27 01:45 |
| MinceR | plus they have intel boot guard | Aug 27 01:45 |
| oiaohm | Intel and Microsoft are still kind allied just releationship is now strained. | Aug 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz | hardly | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | Intel just went more ploygamist | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | Because sucking Microsoft cock isn't profitable, Intel is burning | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | so it tries to be nice with Rackspace, Red Hat, Google, etc. | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | It's just a "dick-sucking competition" to Intel | Aug 27 01:47 |
| MinceR | intel will survive on */linux. m$ probably won't. | Aug 27 01:47 |
| schestowitz | to use torvalds words | Aug 27 01:47 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard is most likely worse than any Microsoft can do.d | Aug 27 01:47 |
| oiaohm | Even HP with bad firmwares can damage the progress of Linux more than any Microsoft stunt at conference can. | Aug 27 01:48 |
| oiaohm | This is the stupid part about Linux conferences. 90 percent of the companies putting up the money to fund Linux conferences are doing something to damage the progression of Linux. | Aug 27 01:49 |
| oiaohm | So one more cannot make that much difference. | Aug 27 01:49 |
| MinceR | not so many of them are publicly perceived as enemies of linux, though | Aug 27 01:49 |
| MinceR | and according to plamondon, that makes the difference | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft said it publicly. | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember HP and IBM both are Unix. | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | So if Linux was dead there Unix market might be bigger. | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Its more customer presure that they support Linux. | Aug 27 01:51 |
| MinceR | gnu/linux is unix as well | Aug 27 01:51 |
| MinceR | systemd/linux isn't, though | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | also, ibm is dead | Aug 27 01:52 |
| oiaohm | AIX and HP-UX | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | the aix market is not coming back | Aug 27 01:52 |
| oiaohm | Still make both companies a few billion dollars a year. | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | though i guess they could be so delusional they believe it could | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | as for hp, i wonder where they stand now | Aug 27 01:52 |
| oiaohm | HP and IBM are still investing resources into improving HP-UX and AIX. | Aug 27 01:53 |
| oiaohm | So they have not give up on them yet. | Aug 27 01:53 |
| oiaohm | Just companies like HP and IBM are way more PR savy than Microsoft is. | Aug 27 01:53 |
| MinceR | all the more reason to lock m$ out | Aug 27 01:53 |
| MinceR | letting hp and ibm in may not look like selling out and turning the con into something you're not interested in | Aug 27 01:54 |
| MinceR | letting in m$ definitely does | Aug 27 01:54 |
| MinceR | same with novell, xamarin, etc. | Aug 27 01:54 |
| oiaohm | You have had HP and IBM at Linux conferences selling how HP-UX and AIX are better. | Aug 27 01:55 |
| MinceR | then they should be banned too | Aug 27 01:56 |
| oiaohm | The problem is if you ban all the ones doing this stuff you have no conference. | Aug 27 01:56 |
| oiaohm | One of the thing that makes attending a Linux Conference so fun is that is a house full of hostile. | Aug 27 01:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its also doubled sided if you don't know what your competitors are doing you cannot design to win. | Aug 27 01:58 |
| MinceR | i'm more interested in designing something that works | Aug 27 01:59 |
| MinceR | broken shit fighting each other is uninteresting when you've got something to do. | Aug 27 01:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Luisja_350/status/636704569465139200 | Aug 27 02:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Luisja_350: @schestowitz It's funny that I came to know about this, not because I Iive nearby, but because of you, whom does not live even in Spain :) | Aug 27 02:00 | |
| oiaohm | You have to remember its not your house that will always contain the best ideas. | Aug 27 02:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: journalling on Linux filesystems is one of the early ideas imported from what other solutions were doing. | Aug 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | a conference about "my house" is not the only possible source for ideas. | Aug 27 02:03 |
| oiaohm | Linux conferences are more about sharing comparing and so on. Why you see why Linux sux and why Linux does not sux as conference presentations. | Aug 27 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Having a competitor presenting and attempting to be a distruption is not a harm to a Linux conference objective. | Aug 27 02:04 |
| MinceR | except when it is | Aug 27 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Now either they do that in public at a conference when you can counter it or like Microsoft has with whitepapers to companies not to go Linux. | Aug 27 02:05 |
| MinceR | if the companies believe m$ whitepapers, they deserve what they get. | Aug 27 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Remember the Hp white paper that said Munich running Linux was more expensive than if they went Windows. | Aug 27 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Hp has worked with Microsoft. | Aug 27 02:06 |
| oiaohm | Same has IBM ...... | Aug 27 02:06 |
| oiaohm | This is the problem we know Microsoft plays by Proxy. Problem some of Microsoft proxys are hardware companies the Linux cannot say get lost to. | Aug 27 02:07 |
| MinceR | doesn't mean the most obvious plays have to be let in. | Aug 27 02:08 |
| oiaohm | The fact Microsoft is running Linux servers is getting Linux into more businesses. | Aug 27 02:08 |
| oiaohm | So letting Microsoft in is a double sided sword for a Linux Conference. | Aug 27 02:09 |
| oiaohm | For an Apple conference its a one sided sword that is just going to damage it. | Aug 27 02:09 |
| MinceR | they wouldn't be doing that if they didn't have an idea how it could be used against linux | Aug 27 02:09 |
| MinceR | also, i doubt anyone with a working brain runs anything on azure anyway | Aug 27 02:10 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of hosting providers that are run by people who don't eat glue. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| oiaohm | To be correct Microsoft has to attend even if they don't present due to the massive azure usage. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| oiaohm | How do you think you get submission rights. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| oiaohm | You ID has to be veted in person for a lot of projects at a conference. | Aug 27 02:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also windows update servers use Linux caching servers. | Aug 27 02:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know, m$ also hides behind akamai's gnu/linux servers | Aug 27 02:13 |
| oiaohm | This is the funny part delete Microsoft products from the face of earth . The world internet can go on. | Aug 27 02:13 |
| oiaohm | Delete linux and even Microsoft products are screwed. | Aug 27 02:13 |
| oiaohm | So Microsoft with Linux is stuck in a Multually Assured destruction position. | Aug 27 02:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes Microsoft will attempt to push .net on Linux and their management solutions on Linux. But anything that directly kills Linux dead has to be off the table. | Aug 27 02:16 |
| schestowitz | [02:14] <oiaohm> So Microsoft with Linux is stuck in a Multually Assured destruction position. | Aug 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Not at all | Aug 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | MAD is different | Aug 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | the scenario is very different here, it's not nuclear war | Aug 27 02:19 |
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| schestowitz | hi Rif | Aug 27 02:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: It is a MAD position because if Microsoft is wins too much it loses. Microsoft needs Linux and has needed Linux or BSD for a long time. | Aug 27 02:22 |
| oiaohm | Remember when it come to the DOJ case to say there was competition in the market Microsoft used Linux Desktop. | Aug 27 02:23 |
| MinceR | they still have bsd and they don't mind it due to the license | Aug 27 02:24 |
| oiaohm | BSD was classed as not successful enough to be used in a DOJ case. | Aug 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | isn't crApple the Token Competition anyway? | Aug 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | the Powers That Be seem content to let uefi take users' freedoms away. | Aug 27 02:25 |
| oiaohm | crApple has vendor lockin the very thing DOJ hates. | Aug 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | they don't seem to hate it that much. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | OS X was the anti case against BSD. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| MinceR | they tolerate it from m$ and even redcrap. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | The key word is tolerate. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | If the balance gets pushed too far 1 way or the other a company will be broken up. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| MinceR | yes, as in the thing they should not do if antitrust regulation was anything other than a lie. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| MinceR | and the same thing applies to the EU. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| MinceR | they to go around making a big show of not tolerating monopoly abuses and then not doing anything. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| oiaohm | I would not say that about the EU | Aug 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | EU has forced documentation and patent licensing on different things out in the open. | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | what did they do? made m$ include a browser choice screen that they removed soon after | Aug 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | free patent licensing. | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | and made them sell different winblows versions at the same price that nobody ever cared about. | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | i wonder what sort of "free" patent licensing that is | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | seeing all the patent abuse m$ is still practicing | Aug 27 02:29 |
| oiaohm | Browser choice window in EU versions of windows still happens with windows 10. Of course EU ruling only applies inside the EU. | Aug 27 02:29 |
| MinceR | vista10 even changes the default browser to IE in Disguise and doesn't let the other browsers change it back | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: samba project has a patent license for all MS network protocols for ever for any number of users and groups. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and EU did that. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| MinceR | that's great but it doesn't amount to much | Aug 27 02:30 |
| MinceR | especially since using m$ network protocols is shooting yourself in the foot. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | But its way more than nothing. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | When migrating from Windows to Linux having the means to share transfer protocols is useful | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | there still are huge monopoly and patent abuses going on and the DoJ and the EU sit with their thumbs up their asses. | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | you can use reasonable protocols on winblows | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | sftp, for example | Aug 27 02:31 |
| oiaohm | EU has done a little against patent abuses. | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | and ipp | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | yes, the problem is, they only do a little | Aug 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | DOJ fairly much nothing. | Aug 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | EU is at least half awake. | Aug 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | DOJ is in a deep sleep | Aug 27 02:32 |
| MinceR | yes, but only looking to serve usian megacorporate interests | Aug 27 02:32 |
| MinceR | they're busy rubber-stamping ISDS now, aren't they? | Aug 27 02:33 |
| oiaohm | The EU is more likely to interject in a patent case. | Aug 27 02:33 |
| MinceR | that's like saying 1e-9999 > 0 | Aug 27 02:33 |
| oiaohm | The problem is the EU side is slow. | Aug 27 02:34 |
| MinceR | and corrupt | Aug 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | There are currently about 4000 IP releated cases open in the EU. | Aug 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | And they take about 5 years to get to court. | Aug 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | The samba project case took 15 years from start to end. | Aug 27 02:35 |
| MinceR | the media player-less retail windows at the same price solution was particularly a spit in the face of all EU citizens and businesses. | Aug 27 02:36 |
| MinceR | that's when the EU really showed how much they cared about the interests of their own citizens and businesses. | Aug 27 02:37 |
| oiaohm | Problem is that will take 15+ years over price fixing to be addressed. | Aug 27 02:37 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem the courts in the EU are way too slow. | Aug 27 02:38 |
| oiaohm | ISDS I really have issue with. | Aug 27 02:38 |
| oiaohm | You know how Australia has restricted tabacco sales. The australian governement has to pay a cigette company over that since they are in a country that we have a ISDS with. | Aug 27 02:39 |
| oiaohm | Government regulation on business should be stiff shit its the countries laws work with it. | Aug 27 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: mind you that media player same price with or with out did cause Microsoft some pain in the samba patent licensing. Being unable to change for the Windows media player network protocols because they had to be free. | Aug 27 02:42 |
| MinceR | the problem is not really the price fixing, it's the tying of products | Aug 27 02:42 |
| MinceR | and that winblows version bullshit didn't fix that | Aug 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | especially since it did not even apply to OEM versions | Aug 27 02:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636722781133139972 | Aug 27 03:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz I guess $1000 is a small donation by his terms. But I'd wanna hear a lot more about this Damascene conversion. | Aug 27 03:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/636857372175114240 | Aug 27 12:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz do not.! use paypal. | Aug 27 12:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/636863784464814081 | Aug 27 12:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dawnbazely: Why no patent or copyright for new food recipes? By @tylercowen https://t.co/er6XGXjK1W HT @schestowitz | Aug 27 12:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2006/10/why_no_patent_o.html#sthash.qfN2PWAH.uxfs&st_refDomain=&st_refQuery= ) | Aug 27 12:34 | |
| schestowitz | exactly! WHY NOT? Some people do call for it! :-) | Aug 27 12:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNCdZHqUcAQujvt.jpg | Aug 27 12:37 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 27 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ii4ym/microsoft_at_linuxcon/ | Aug 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "What exactly has Bill Gates done in your opinion to warrant being put in jail?" | Aug 27 18:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft at LinuxCon : linux [ http://ur1.ca/nkea9 ] | Aug 27 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | "I am digging into memory here, but being anti-competative is the major reason. He dictated rules by memo saying that programs of other companies should not be able to run on their platform. With that he did put these companies out of business." | Aug 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "So? That is completely irrelevant to the discussion." | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Turfers I think | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "Or, you know, open-source enthusiasts are actually getting hired there and working from the inside to change Microsoft for the better. No, that can't be it. It's just easier to continue bleating the same bleat that's been bleated for the past 20+ years." | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "The bleat has been going on for the past 20+ years because Microsoft has been kept pushing the boundaries for the last 20+ years. Even today and probably tomorrow as well. | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "The bleat has been going on for the past 20+ years because Microsoft has been kept pushing the boundaries for the last 20+ years. Even today and probably tomorrow as well." | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | They are still attacking | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "That's because it is. It's nothing but trash." | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | same pro-Microsofter: | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | "Don't post shit from this blog. It's clearly heavily biased and light on reality." | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Seems like MSFTer may have also infitrlated the Linux parts of Reddit | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | to 'police' what goes in | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515595 | Aug 27 18:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515253 | Aug 27 18:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ScientificLinux 6.7 Officially Released, Based on #RedHat Enterprise Linux 6.7 http://news.softpedia.com/news/scientific-linux-6-7-officially-released-based-on-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-7-490173.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 27 18:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Scientific Linux 6.7 Officially Released, Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.7 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkrfd ] | Aug 27 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | |jaw_drop I think I am going to install this ASAP| | Aug 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6452707 | Aug 27 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BlackBerry’s first Android phone: More leaked pictures emerge http://bgr.com/2015/08/10/blackberry-android-phone-leaked-photos/ #blackberry #android #linux #security | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Most likely is the following solution: https://twitter.com/BlackBerryOS/status/636903205306269696 A switch button within the notification area. You can switch to Android and you can switch back to bb10." | Aug 27 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> bgr.com | BlackBerry Android phone leaked photos | BGR [ http://ur1.ca/nf3cx ] | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlackBerryOS: Take this image of "Switch To Android" with a grain of salt. Is it real...or just a good job on Photoshop? #DualOS http://t.co/y5OUAucWYD | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlackBerryOS: Take this image of "Switch To Android" with a grain of salt. Is it real...or just a good job on Photoshop? #DualOS http://t.co/y5OUAucWYD | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515245 | Aug 27 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is There Such a Thing as Too Many GNU/Linux Distributions? http://news.softpedia.com/news/is-there-such-thing-as-too-many-gnu-linux-distributions-490166.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Is There Such a Thing as Too Many GNU/Linux Distributions? - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkrlz ] | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | "No." | Aug 27 19:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6505917 | Aug 27 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help http://news.softpedia.com/news/solus-operating-system-arrives-on-october-1-but-it-needs-your-help-489897.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkb1r ] | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | "I like the aesthetic and the minimalistic mind, hope they get it!" | Aug 27 19:07 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Is The Oldest Linux Installation CD You Have? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/what-is-the-oldest-linux-installation-cd-you-have-4175551843/ #gnu #linux discussion | Aug 27 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxquestions.org | What Is The Oldest Linux Installation CD You Have? [ http://ur1.ca/nksi5 ] | Aug 27 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | Debian Wheezy stable :) | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | I have the original win$ xp cd that I bought when it came out… | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | "I used to have a floppy that booted MSDOS. I used it to reformat TIVO hard disks for use as regular hard disks in a computer I bought for $100. It’s the machine that ran RH8. I mostly installed from source onto that machine. All the RPMs I could find had dependencies I couldn’t meet. The famous $100 computer was a Pentium 2 machine. Later I got a machine that could run FC2." | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6516464 | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #paypal a nightmare. Need more alternatives, also to be adopted by more businesses. | Aug 27 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | " https://timerepublik.com buy/sell whit #worktime :-)" | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-timerepublik.com | TimeRepublik, the ultimate sharing economy experience: a global TimeBank where you share your talents, interests and passions in exchange for time! | Aug 27 20:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518882 | Aug 28 13:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #grsecurity prioritises 'partners' and sponsors https://grsecurity.net/announce.php likewise, expect #mirantis to shill for #x86 now http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/82430.html?rss=1 | Aug 28 13:20 | |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxinsider.com | Intel Pumps OpenStack Up | Business | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/nl2u8 ] | Aug 28 13:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Finland confirms arrest of Russian citizen accused of crimes in the US https://www.rt.com/news/313648-finland-russia-arrest-senakh/ lots of articles about this at the moment. #malware | Aug 28 13:20 | |
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| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ | Aug 28 17:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-tlhp.cf | Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide | The Linux Homefront Project | Aug 28 17:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > Is that a real post? Why not just roll all of /sbin into Busybox and be | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > done with it? | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > "NO NO NO systemd does it better because <insert confusing | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > buzzwords that will bamboozle executives and journalists>" | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150828.153225.e2298dfd.en.html | Aug 28 17:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide [ http://ur1.ca/nl62h ] | Aug 28 17:18 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.economist.com/news/business/21662618-one-will-run-and-run-google-finally-responds-europes-antitrust-charges | Aug 28 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.economist.com | Google finally responds to Europe's antitrust charges | The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/nl63n ] | Aug 28 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > Google responds to M$ proxies | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > == | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com/article/2977085/social-business/one-billion-people-facebook-monday-itbwcw.html | Aug 28 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.computerworld.com | Mark Zuckerberg -- thanks 1,000,000,000 sheep for using Facebook login on Monday | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/nl63o ] | Aug 28 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > Probably half spam accounts | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Yes, or as I put it this morning, passive login through apps. | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | >> https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > Is that a real post? Why not just roll all of /sbin into Busybox and be | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > done with it? | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > I guess it was. | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/1022 | Aug 28 17:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Add new "machinectl shell" command for su(1)-like behaviour by poettering · Pull Request #1022 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/nl647 ] | Aug 28 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, systemd is so unbelievable that even an April 1st joke about forking kernel.org was taken seriously. | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RiCHi/status/637299352084574208 | Aug 28 17:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RiCHi: @schestowitz thanks for sharing my @Computerworld article! | Aug 28 17:27 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6519132 | Aug 28 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I've seen the label "hate speech" or "hate site" being misused to refer to scepticism of COMPANY, not people/race. Corporations are people? | Aug 28 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "The SCOTUS decided they were a few years ago." | Aug 28 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6519268 | Aug 28 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google uses #surveillance on what you search for for business purposes http://thehustle.co/the-secret-google-interview-that-landed-me-a-job nasty | Aug 28 17:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thehustle.co | Google Has a Secret Interview Process... And It Landed Me a Job [ http://ur1.ca/nl6fr ] | Aug 28 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Had a secret interview process." | Aug 28 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6508620 | Aug 28 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #Linux was born, as told by Linus #Torvalds himself http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2015/08/how-linux-was-born-as-told-by-linus-torvalds-himself/ http://opensource.com/life/15/8/happy-24th-birthday-linux-kernel http://www.itproportal.com/2015/08/25/24-years-young-best-of-linux-yet-to-come/ | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Bunk. Linus wrote a kernel and any kind of os he wrote isn’t in use today. We have GNU / Linux." | Aug 28 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.co.uk | How Linux was born, as told by Linus Torvalds himself | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/nk60v ] | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> opensource.com | Celebrating 24 years since Linus Torvalds announced Linux | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/njwm8 ] | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.itproportal.com | 24 years young: The best of Linux is yet to come | ITProPortal.com | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Thanks ThinkGNU, but I think Glyn Moody and Roy know the difference between a kernel and an OS." | Aug 28 18:00 |
| schestowitz | "I think you’re right Will Hill. I wasn’t really directing the comment toward Roy but adding it so that onlookers that see the article and don’t know any better might see it." | Aug 28 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Editors choose the headlines, not writers | Aug 28 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518843 | Aug 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft is not only attacking Munich and distorting a story from Italy (making up 'facts', i.e. "marketing"); it attacks FOSS as a whole. | Aug 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "As usual …" | Aug 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520258 | Aug 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ #systemd #lennux | Aug 28 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> tlhp.cf | Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide | The Linux Homefront Project | Aug 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Desktop soon to follow…" | Aug 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518183 | Aug 28 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #paypal had a serious glitch, they double-charged us, and I've had to spend 3 days chasing it, still without remedy. @paypal sucks. Avoid. | Aug 28 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Their software seems totally outdated. Stripe seems better out of proprietary alternatives." | Aug 28 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6519343 | Aug 28 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Radio silence from #paypal for almost 24 hours now. They took my money (twice!) and ran. Must find alternatives, quick. Buggy as Hell. | Aug 28 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Good luck, last issue i had with Paypal they dragged out 6 weeks before giving me my refund." | Aug 28 18:04 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520209 | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | The scientists themselves are being unscientific. | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | They should, of course, challenge the individual papers, but then to reach out and make a broad assertion about a whole field of study is very unscientific :) | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Propaganda, advertising, packaging, perception etc are areas where psychology has been very successful. | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Aug 28 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Study reveals that a lot of #psychology 'research' really is just 'psycho-babble' http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/study-reveals-that-a-lot-of-psychology-research-really-is-just-psychobabble-10474646.html people who need help themselves. | Aug 28 18:32 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.independent.co.uk | Study reveals that a lot of psychology research really is just 'psycho-babble' - Science - News - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/nl6kr ] | Aug 28 18:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.quora.com/Why-does-GitHub-use-Gravatar-and-not-user-profile-picture-uploading | Aug 28 19:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.quora.com | Why does GitHub use Gravatar and not user profile picture uploading? - Quora [ http://ur1.ca/nl774 ] | Aug 28 19:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that GitHub's founder, Tom Preston-Werner, also created Gravatar :)" | Aug 28 19:05 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520327 | Aug 28 19:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Liberationtech/status/636870850248097793 | Aug 28 19:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Liberationtech: North Dakota is first state to legalize armed #drones for cops, thanks to a last-minute push by a pro-police lobbyist http://t.co/wUzqUS52y3 | Aug 28 19:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | "democracy®" | Aug 28 19:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/637328189493248000 | Aug 28 19:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: #HackingTeam #spyware rootkit: Even a new HARD DRIVE wouldn't get rid of it http://t.co/3CvPtSiPcM #Infosec + #UEFI goodness cc/@schestowitz | Aug 28 19:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Hacking Team spyware rootkit: Even a new HARD DRIVE wouldn't get rid of it • The Register | Aug 28 19:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520327 | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but they’re not bombing and killer drones like the ones used outside the US. You know, US people are exceptional and have rights that outsiders not like the right to privacy, the right to not be detained indefinitely with no court hearing … | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Oh, wait. | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | armed drones came to the US faster than I foresaw | Aug 28 20:26 |
| schestowitz | and they're run by police, not FBI, army, etc. | Aug 28 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/637544780256284672 | Aug 29 09:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz have you noticed 95% of usa presidents in movies are white? (post obama) | Aug 29 09:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6522309 | Aug 29 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 13 Simple But Exciting Ways To Lose Your Citizenship In Tony Abbott's Team Australia https://newmatilda.com/2015/08/26/13-simple-exciting-ways-lose-your-citizenship-tony-abbotts-team-australia #fiveeyes #war on #dissent | Aug 29 19:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> newmatilda.com | 13 Simple But Exciting Ways To Lose Your Citizenship In Tony Abbott's Team Australia | newmatilda.com [ http://ur1.ca/nl9zh ] | Aug 29 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Crazy–teaching computer skills without knowing pupil is terrorist and without conviction!" | Aug 29 19:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6522399 | Aug 29 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of sale of Flash ads is bad news for #adobe and nuisance marketers. But when will horrible JS (mostly spyware) be blocked? | Aug 29 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Never. Too many spy companies getting too much money out of it.' | Aug 29 19:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6522332 | Aug 29 19:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Phone hacking: CPS may bring corporate charges against Murdoch publisher http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/28/phone-hacking-cps-may-bring-corporate-charges-rupert-murdoch-publisher never too old for jail. #newscorp #uk | Aug 29 19:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Phone hacking: CPS may bring corporate charges against Murdoch publisher | UK news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/nlo08 ] | Aug 29 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | 'Prosecute the man or corp? Shares will fall, the family buys, then sells later for profit. Loaded dice. Corps are intended to be “limited liability”! Damn farce." | Aug 29 19:04 |
| schestowitz | "btw - good morning :)" | Aug 29 19:04 |
| schestowitz | ta, belatedly | Aug 29 19:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6523008 | Aug 29 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Future of One-Party Rule in #Singapore http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/08/chee-speaks-in-yale-nus-the-future-of-one-party-rule-in-singapore/ essentially an autocracy ('good' one) like Saudi Barbaria | Aug 29 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | spotlight isn’t on SingSingaintpoor, Indonesia, ISMalaysia, ISSaudiBarbaria or other vassal states. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theonlinecitizen.com | Chee speaks in Yale-NUS – The Future of One-Party Rule in Singapore | The Online Citizen [ http://ur1.ca/nlo1a ] | Aug 29 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | Spotlight is on independent states - also here on D* posters are in denial that they just follow media spotlight, just as they are in denial their “knowledge” of history is Orwellian - can’t even be bothered to even read him (just memes). | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Can read, but they dont - dedicated followers of (alternate) fashion. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Existential feelings more important than stated goals. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Fundamentals far away are idealised, fundamentals at home too gritty and concrete to be idealised. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Rudi Dutscher (and Lenin) explained that change is long term - generations. Dutscher took slow view, guaranteeing (real) democratic consensus - Lenin had no choice - events and war forced head-through-wall. No such thing as Stalinism - just Bolshevism - would have been different in rich country. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Media personalityises politics - makes it a soap opera - activists react like soap opera fans. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I’m pissed off. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | We’re not an inch forward than in 1968 - we’ve gone backwards - but people don’t know the past - so media lets them burnout - the same for next generation - and next, next, next… with every new generation the media press the reset button, manipulating youth mentality. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Want a good cause? Check the medias list of approved villains-2b-targetted. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, @Roy - SingSing aint on that list - it’s a star vassal - a model for all others. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Everyone in SingSing are happy, disciplined, have iphones, perfect teeth and smile - it’s The Truman Show! | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I think some people there are beginning to challenge the false portrayal of Sing | Aug 29 19:08 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sdgy9CdUMQ8/ukZTqG9f-jIJ | Aug 29 19:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nloab ] | Aug 29 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | This must be a lie though because "Doctor Dumbass" Roy Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | claimed that it was a failure. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | "M$'s goal is to have it on a billion devices, "Snit." " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | ...so that's basically a bunch of free downloads. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | It's probably not even 75M distinct devices. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | That's Windows cannibalising itself | Aug 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | older versions | Aug 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[1-25] | Aug 29 19:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nloax ] | Aug 29 19:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[1-25] | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/08/25/vista-10-failure/ | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Summary: Confirmatory evidence that Vista 10 is failing in the market | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | about a month after its much-hyped (paid coverage) release | Aug 29 19:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Market Share Estimates Confirm That Vista 10 Failed in a Major Way | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nlobe ] | Aug 29 19:33 | |
| schestowitz | "MUCH as we expected even well before Vista 10 came out, the market is | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | overwhelmingly apathetic, regardless of the price. It?s just not | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | interested in Vista 10." | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ?Microsoft has been on a tear with Windows 10 updates,? Ryan wrote in | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | our #techrights IRC channel (he used to be a Microsoft MVP and he | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | follows Microsoft very closely). ?It hasn?t even been a month and | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | they?ve apparently already patched so many bugs it?s like an entire | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | service pack has happened.? | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | "So, you believe everything that Roy posts? " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Sure. Look at what's happening to the market now just as Windows 10 is | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | being advertised on TV. | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Linking to MS boosters (the trools) | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | An article from the Internet's biggest liar of them all, "Doctor | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Dumbass' Roy Schestowitz. "Vista 10" is such a failure that it is | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | already installed on three times as many machines as Linux: | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-more-than-75-million-devices-now-running-windows-10/> | Aug 29 19:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft: More than 75 million devices now running Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/nlobw ] | Aug 29 19:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Absolutely nothing the "Doctor Dumbass" Roy Schestowitz is the truth. I | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | can't imagine anyone with a legitimate doctorate wasting their time with | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | a web site as repulsive as his writing propagandist articles which use | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | other propagandist articles as evidence of whatever idiotic claim he makes. | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | How come that you are, like Hadron Msg-ID Larry, so incredibly jealous about | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | peoples achievements? | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Face it, you will never be able to achieve a "doctor" status. The best you | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | could hope for is sweeping parking lots. And even that is really stretching | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I figured the post was made to show how absurd and lost Roy is... did not | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | even occur to me someone might believe his nonsense. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | How so? I'd be interested to hear more. Do you have any examples of | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | this behavior? | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | You believed his 'nonsense' as you call it, enough to appear on his | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | techbytes podcast. In fact you believed it enough, snit, to agree to | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | return for a follow up episode. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I also would agree to have a discussion with Rush Limbaugh... does not mean | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I believe his nonsense. | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | A.M. is the prominent troll and libeler against me | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | for like a decade | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | None of what I wrote made reference to any kind of behaviour. I called | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Roy Schestowitz, "Doctor Dumbass," a liar because he lies. Find me _ONE_ | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | article on his website which doesn't use another article on the same | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | website as evidence of whatever idiotic claim he makes and, when you | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | don't, you'll understand why I trust absolutely nothing of what that | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | anus says. | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Creating an ugly website and adding "Dr." in front of your name when you | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | probably haven't even graduated from elementary school is not what I | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | call an achievement. Apparently, you Germans have much lower standards | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | than I do. Something tells me that Frau Köhlmann, the deranged midget | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | who married you, gives you a medal every time you manage to go a day | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | without defecating in your pants. | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > Face it, you will never be able to achieve a "doctor" status. The best you | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > could hope for is sweeping parking lots. And even that is really stretching | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I'm already a Master, I could go ahead and become a Doctor if I feel | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | like it but I don't see the point. My education is real, Schestowitz's | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | was found at the bottom of whatever Cheerios rip-off the Brits came up with. | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | More of that libel, but this troll is a different one | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | maybe paid by MSFT | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Was never able to shot a 'smoking gun' | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the whole thread about the writer | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | not the message | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Actually, the rumor I heard is that he turned down the job of sweeping | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | parking lots, since they wouldn't give him the night shift. | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Not enough lurking in the shadows, you see. | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Oh okay, it's just a "joke" -- but that's okay, because ol' Slimeball | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | _loves_ "jokes", doesn't he? | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | He should tell his knee-slappers about his drinking of toilet water again | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | -- that kind of self-deprecating humor is fun to watch! | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | You are nothing. You are dumber than heated dirt. Flipping burgers is way | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | beyond your capabilities | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | You may lie as much as Snit Michael Glasser, that does not make you anything | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | except being a liar | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Peter already admitted educational degrees mean nothing to him: | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Peter Köhlmann: | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | ----- | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | | I'm already a Master, | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | You are nothing. | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | ----- | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | You and I have Masters degrees. To Peter education means nothing... but he | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | backs Roy because Roy is of the herd. | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if Roy can help people learn to view YouTube videos. | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are attacked by | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | the shitbags who troll in here. In the cola advocates they see a | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | group of decent, educated, reasonable people. They feel bad about | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | themselves, because they are morally and intellectually inferior to | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | us. So they attack us, and the things we believe in. | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | That was a straight up trollish post. IOW, lots of conclusions about | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | supposed superiority with no factual evidence of its existence. | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | More libel and made up things challenging my title: | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | chrisv wrote: | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > Peter Köhlmann wrote: | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > >Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, ... | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Awarded by who? A credentialed institution, or some | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | fly-by-night who charges $20 for it? Don't laugh at the | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | latter -- a friend of mine got his PhD this way (and for only | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | $20) some years ago as a joke: A Doctorate in Divinity, which | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | would permit him to set up a non-profit church as a tax dodge. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > > ...and no matter how much you hate him for that, it is | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > > much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Which is why the claim clearly depends on its credentials. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Aug 29 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | > The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > attacked by the shitbags who troll in here. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | No, its not: what gets criticized are unsupportable claims, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | bad science, bad logic, lack of ethics, evidence of bias, etc. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | An easy example of this is one poster who _claims_ to have | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | been educated to the level of having a BS in Electrical | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Engineering, yet has made erroneous EE claims which belie | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | that they had actually learned anything, plus they've utterly | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | refused to acknowledge multiple reputable sources which | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | rebutted their claims to show that they were objectively wrong. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Aug 29 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | > In the cola advocates they see a group of decent, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > educated, reasonable people. They feel bad about themselves, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > because they are morally and intellectually inferior to | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > us. So they attack us, and the things we believe in. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | My, my: what a bit of egotistical HUBRIS. The irony is | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | palatable, particularly when the superiority claim has come | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | from one who has so frequently have gotten 'schooled': | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=getting+schooled> | Aug 29 19:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: getting schooled [ http://ur1.ca/nloeo ] | Aug 29 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, and no matter how much | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >> you hate him for that, it is much more than you stupid twit will ever | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >> achieve | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Even *if* that were true, how would that be any different from you, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | DumbFullSnit? | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | You are way too stupid. And you yourself are probably the brightest of the | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | widiots infesting COLA | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, and no matter how much you | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> hate him for that, it is much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are attacked by | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > the shitbags who troll in here. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Except that you are _not_ educated, chrisv. You have already | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | demonstrated complete ineptitude in the field you claimed to have a | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | degree in. Like every other statement you make, the claim about your | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | education was a complete fabrication. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > In the cola advocates they see a | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > group of decent, educated, reasonable people. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Says the guy who calls everyone who posts even the faintest criticism of | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Linux a *fsckwit* and insists on insulting Ezekiel in threads he had not | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | even posted in. I don't think that you're even capable of producing a | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | single article without using expletives, you "reasonable" and "decent" guy. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > They feel bad about | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > themselves, because they are morally and intellectually inferior to | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > us. So they attack us, and the things we believe in. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I believe in free software a lot more than you do because I actually use | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | it. Notice that I am using Thunderbird to post to newsgroups whereas you | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | use Forte Agent, in Windows, you despicable liar. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > That was a straight up trollish post. IOW, lots of conclusions about | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > supposed superiority with no factual evidence of its existence. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | "Factual evidence" is abound in COLA. Just read the foul, hatred filled | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | posts from Snit Michael Glasser, Snit SlimebaLL or flatfish Gary Stewart | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Basically a bunch of socipaths and imbeciles | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Even *if* that were true, how would that be any different from you, | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > DumbFullSnit? | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Which of my lies are you referring to, dumbkopf? | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I can show you an entire website full of Spamowitz's bullshit lies | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | (starting with this thread). | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > You are way too stupid. And you yourself are probably the brightest of the | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > widiots infesting COLA | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Tell us again how you can count the lines of code and know how much of | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | the original Linux kernel code is in the current Linux kernel. Tell us, | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | moron. | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Which of my lies are you referring to, dumbkopf? | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Aug 29 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | All of them. You lied a lot | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > I can show you an entire website full of Spamowitz's bullshit lies | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > (starting with this thread). | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Irrelevant what you think about that. Roy may sometimes be a little over the | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | top, but he usually does not lie. No need to, you guys provide all the ammo | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | against your Toys-R-Us OS all by yourself | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >>> You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> You are way too stupid. And you yourself are probably the brightest of | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> the widiots infesting COLA | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Tell us again how you can count the lines of code and know how much of | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > the original Linux kernel code is in the current Linux kernel. Tell us, | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > moron. | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | And now you need Snit Michael Glassers dishonesty with wordplays | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, and no matter how | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> much you | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> hate him for that, it is much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I want actual evidence that he's a PhD and I'm calling bullshit on it. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Usually, when a person is a doctor, they are very proud of saying where | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | they got their diploma. The fact that he didn't do that makes his claim | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | to be a doctor questionable. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Besides, his articles lack the research and objectivity of a typical | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | doctoral-level post. His self-promotion and insistence on sticking a | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | photo of himself everywhere simply adds to that. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I simply assume that he called himself a doctor in the same way Richard | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Stallman calls himself so. In the case of Stallman, he got honourary | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | degrees which recognize his achievement in creating GNU and leading to | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | the development of Linux. It is not however a real doctorate even though | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | there is an actual paper given to Stallman. I doubt that Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | even has that paper. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, ... | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > Awarded by who? A credentialed institution, or some | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > fly-by-night who charges $20 for it? Don't laugh at the | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > latter -- a friend of mine got his PhD this way (and for only | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > $20) some years ago as a joke: A Doctorate in Divinity, which | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > would permit him to set up a non-profit church as a tax dodge. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | It's a fair question. I'm not the type to claim any kind of status | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | without an actual paper to it. Schestowitz, however, strikes me as | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | someone very similar to my repulsive cousin who is content to believe | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | that he is "as good" as a doctor but unwilling to go out there and prove | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | it with anything resembling real achievement. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I actually listened to the guy's interview with Snit. Schestowitz was | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | indeed inserting lies, hearsay and speculation in there in a pathetic | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | effort to corner Snit. No authentic doctor would behave in such a way. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Without a substantial amount of real evidence, doctors don't make claims. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >>> ...and no matter how much you hate him for that, it is | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >>> much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > Which is why the claim clearly depends on its credentials. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Agreed. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> attacked by the shitbags who troll in here. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > No, its not: what gets criticized are unsupportable claims, | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > bad science, bad logic, lack of ethics, evidence of bias, etc. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > An easy example of this is one poster who _claims_ to have | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > been educated to the level of having a BS in Electrical | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > Engineering, yet has made erroneous EE claims which belie | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > that they had actually learned anything, plus they've utterly | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > refused to acknowledge multiple reputable sources which | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > rebutted their claims to show that they were objectively wrong. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Enter chrisv, the original liar. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlogj ] | Aug 29 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Spamowitz claims a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics from Manchester | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | University (aka the University of Manchester) | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/roy/ | Aug 29 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Roy Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dr-roy-schestowitz/2/b41/720 | Aug 29 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-uk.linkedin.com | Dr. Roy Schestowitz | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/nlogm ] | Aug 29 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Everyone with more than half a brain would have seen that I was referring to | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | the relative sizes. | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Seems your tiny brain isn't up to that task | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Providing they bother to fact check such submissions, the Manchester University website says he "holds a doctoral degree in Medical Biophysics": | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | http://manchester.academia.edu/RoySchestowitz | Aug 29 19:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-manchester.academia.edu | Roy Schestowitz | The University of Manchester - Academia.edu [ http://ur1.ca/nlohc ] | Aug 29 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | Contrast that to: | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | "I'm not the type to claim any kind of status without an actual paper to it." - A.M. | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure that, any minute now, Andre will prove his claim to hold a Masters degree ;) | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway (look at Snit, for the best example of why); holding such a degree obviously didn't erase Andre's wacky conspiracy theory issues, which, in my opinion, often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | That's the way I would read it because it's the only way that makes sense. That said, it doesn't immediately appear to be relevant to the question asked. Maybe it makes more sense in the context of the entire conversation? | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Either way it's no big deal and you've sufficiently qualified your answer. Unfortunately, you're having done so won't stop Snit-ish trolling... one of the things that we've all come to love about advocacy newsgroups ;) | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Our words must always be twisted with the worst possible | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | interpretation. | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Also, no explanation of what was really meant will be accepted. This | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | moves their claims past being, possibly, mistakes. This proves the | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | trolls liars with no honor. | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlogj ] | Aug 29 19:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | He's not in the staff and anything we DO find with his name on it | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | features him as one of several authors, none of which are a doctor. The | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | latest article is from 2006, by the way. | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | A lot of University students write articles. My ex-girlfriend, before | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | getting her Masters, also wrote one. Obviously, she's not allowed to | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | call herself a Doctor because she never became one. My wife, as well, | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | wrote a lengthy article on Economics to get her Masters. If this guy is | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | indeed a doctor, an article on a University website is meaningless. I | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | need real proof that he completed his doctorate. Something he was one of | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | a number of authors for proves nothing. | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Now... | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Haha | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Try to associate me with serial killers | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | s far as I know Spamowitz did complete his PhD and I believe it's in some | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | biological field. Good for him for completing his studies. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | A couple of points. Success as a student and scoring well on tests isn't the | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | same thing as performing well out in the real world. Some people (and I know | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | a couple) are excellent at learning and memorizing things but can't actually | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | translate what they've learned into real world skills. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Someone can have any degree(s) in the world but still be a moron. A graduate | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | degree doesn't stop someone from being a dishonest liar or far worse: | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | <quote> | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Ted Kaczynski (aka - The Unabomber) - Labeled not merely a serial killer, | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | but a 'domestic terrorist' by the FBI, Kaczynski skipped the 5th grade after | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | testing 167 on an IQ test. He entered Harvard at the age of 16 where he | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | earned his undergraduate degree by age 20. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | He earned his PhD in mathematics at the University of Michigan, where he | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | focused on geometric function theory. After this, he was hired by the | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | University of Berkeley, becoming their youngest professor . He won the | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | University of Michigan's Sumner B. Myers prize, thanks to a PhD thesis on | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | boundary functions, recognized as that year's best mathematics dissertation. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Kaczynski was arrested in 1996 at his cabin in Montana. A wealth of | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | bomb-making materials were found, as well as writings that spoke of | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | experiments in bomb construction, and even an actual live bomb, which he | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | appeared to be preparing to mail. Numerous charges were brought against him, | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | including murder, and the transportation of bombs. He was sentenced to life | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | in prison without parole. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | </quote> | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlogj ] | Aug 29 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, but I don't see that on the above URL; all it says here | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | is "...Alumnus". Do you have a better URL to cite that says | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | what degree at what level? | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | BTW, a literature search: | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Schestowitz%20R%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=17354680> | Aug 29 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Error encountered - PubMed - NCBI [ http://ur1.ca/nloiv ] | Aug 29 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Appears to suggest that he was a co-author on but one paper back in 2005. | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Although this: | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk/staff/CJTaylor/> | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Suggests three other papers, same basic topic & time period. | Aug 29 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk | Chris Taylor (Institute of Population Health - University of Manchester) [ http://ur1.ca/nloiw ] | Aug 29 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Speculating, might have been a Grad student in that timeframe, | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | as it is not uncommon for Grad students to be listed as co- | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | authors on their professors' papers ... although pedantically, | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | it should be noted that undergraduates in some fields can also | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | get listed as a co-author on some papers (a friend who now has | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | his PhD did so). | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Another reference: | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk/epidemiology/COEH/aboutus/students/> | Aug 29 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk | PhD Student list (COEH - University of Manchester) [ http://ur1.ca/nloix ] | Aug 29 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | Which has no record of him as a current or prior PhD student, | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | although it should be pointed out that their online list | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | only goes back to only 2007. But this is really all tangential: | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway ... holding | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > such a degree obviously didn't erase Andre's wacky conspiracy | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > theory issues, which, in my opinion, often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | One of the tenants of professionalism is to basically avoid | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | making a fool out of yourself by trying to speak outside of | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | your areas of expertise. Bringing that to bear here, the | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | question would be how something like Medical Biophysics (which | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | is basically Medical imaging technologies, such as a CAT scan) | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | knowledge relevance to Linux vs Windows, etc. | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | -hh | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | LOL, MinceR: | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I wouldn't be surprised to see Schestowitz become a serial killer, | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | murdering anyone who uses proprietary software. | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[51-75] | Aug 29 19:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlojc ] | Aug 29 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | That site isn't affiliated with U of Manchester, and it's actually | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Spamowitz making that claim (not that I think he's lying). | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | He shows 8 research publications: | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Roy_Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.researchgate.net | Roy Schestowitz (The University of Manchester, Manchester) on ResearchGate - Expertise: Computer Graphics [ http://ur1.ca/nloje ] | Aug 29 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > Contrast that to: | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > "I'm not the type to claim any kind of status without an actual paper | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > to it." - A.M. | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sure that, any minute now, Andre will prove his claim to hold a | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > Masters degree ;) | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It's Andrzej, but I looked up the pronunciation and it does sound pretty | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | much like Andre. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway (look at Snit, for | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > the best example of why); holding such a degree obviously didn't | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > erase Andre's wacky conspiracy theory issues, which, in my opinion, | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I just HAD to attack Slimer when he babbled about astrological signs. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | He's smart otherwise, but appears to believe in astrology. His parents | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | failed him in that regard. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > As far as I know Spamowitz did complete his PhD and I believe it's in some | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > biological field. Good for him for completing his studies. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Looks that way. Now the only question is: Did Mr. "I want actual evidence" complete his studies? | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > A couple of points. Success as a student and scoring well on tests isn't the | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > same thing as performing well out in the real world. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | No question but one would rightfully assume that, when the topics aren't extremely advanced, a person with an advanced degree should, at the least, be able to comprehend what the've read more often than not. This makes someone like Snit a complete mystery to me; there is no question that not all of his idiocy can be attributed to mere trolling. I realize his Masters degree is from an online school (Kaplan) but aren't there still standards for | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | basic reading comprehension that need to be met before such a degree can be conferred? How does stuff like this happen? Is the education industry really *this* fucked up? | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | That's all I found and I don't know if they fact check (as is said). I see this when I click that link: | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | home.comcast.net/~fretwizz/roy-screenshot.png | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Notably, this is more than what I've seen from Andre, who should be providing "actual evidence" of his claim lest he rightfully be considered a hypocrite. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | >> Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | >> You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > I want actual evidence that he's a PhD and I'm calling bullshit on it. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I wanted actual evidence when Spamowitz claimed superhuman feats of | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | strength and fitness: | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | ===================================================================== | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Spamowitz claims | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | 2009: | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Pushups maximum (2 minutes) 125 repetitions, 2nd place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's one pushup per second for 2 minutes straight. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Benchpress maximum 150KG pass, 167.5KG fail, 2nd place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's 330lbs | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Sports/results_2009.htm | Aug 29 19:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Mr. Fitness 2009 - Results [ http://ur1.ca/nlokc ] | Aug 29 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | 2008: | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Benchpress one repetition maximum (close grip, down almost to chest | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | level): 150KG plus bar, joint 1st place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's 150kg + bar = 330lbs + 45lb bar = 380 lbs. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Tricep dip on Reebok bench (2 minutes, middle level): 243, 3rd place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's 2 dips per second for 2 minutes straight. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Sports/results_2008.htm | Aug 29 19:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Mr. Fitness 2008 - Results [ http://ur1.ca/nloke ] | Aug 29 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | ===================================================================== | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I called bull.fucking.shit. on all these. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I asked for impartial 3rd party evidence = a video of Spam doing full, | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | real pushups and full, real dips and full, real bench presses on real | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [ie free weight] equipment. He ran away. Linux advocates always run | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | when called out on their outlandish claims. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | But I do believe he has a Ph.D. He's still a lying tool who posts | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | completely idiotic stuff on his sham website. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | jealousy | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > It's Andrzej, but I looked up the pronunciation and it does sound pretty | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > much like Andre. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I've seen the spelling on the FB page that he (or someone) pointed to... I couldn't remember what it was, though. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway (look at Snit, for | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > the best example of why); holding such a degree obviously didn't | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > erase Andre's wacky conspiracy theory issues, which, in my opinion, | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > I just HAD to attack Slimer when he babbled about astrological signs. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I've seen some of those statements by him.... weird. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > He's smart otherwise, but appears to believe in astrology. His parents | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > failed him in that regard. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Can't help but think of the conspiracy theory stuff he's spouted off with. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, mainly for fun, but some of his stuff was just plain kooky. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Exactly. Your above line "avoid making a fool out of yourself by trying | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | to speak outside of your areas of expertise" is what this asshole is | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | constantly doing. I am convinced that he doesn't work in his respective | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | field and actually relies on the pennies he makes from techrights.org (I | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | can't imagine it being more than pennies) as well as a regular, | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | blue-collar job. That would explain why he essentially begged people to | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | donate a while back. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I'll say this: if a complete imbecile like Roy Schestowitz can get a | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | doctorate, there's no reason why none of us could accomplish the same. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Barring of course the Linux losers who demonstrate no intelligence | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | whatsoever, ever, we would all be capable of becoming doctors. In my | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | field though, language acquisition, getting one is a ridiculous waste of | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | time. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > home.comcast.net/~fretwizz/roy-screenshot.png | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I see: I was going from the data field controlled by the | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | UNI (at the top), whereas you're accepting what was entered | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | (by Roy, obviously) in the "free form text" box, which could | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | just as easily say that he's living on Mars. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "That's fine, but, in my opinion, it made no sense for you to give Slimer a pass on his weight lifting claim. From the images I've seen, Roy definitely looks to have spent far more time on a bench than Slimer (by the way, this is just a simple credibility check, if your goal is just to troll, ignore it ;) " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "If he's also a "Software Engineer" (as that link claims), by looking at his site I'd say he must not care much about the field at all. " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "It's still not really proof of anything. " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | The thing about research publications is that if you are hired to work | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | at a university in your field, you are expected to either teach and | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | research or research and write publications on a regular basis. 8 seems | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | a low number, but I suppose that it's possible. | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | However, you and I both know that when someone graduates from a | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | university, they're very up front where from. For instance, if I have a | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Bachelors from McGill University, which I do, I am not shy about putting | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | B. Ed TFSL McGill University. In this case, he simply writes Dr.. Where | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | it actually came from is unknown. An authentic doctor would have written | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz PhD Manchester University so that his credentials to | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | speak on a subject could be verified. The fact that he didn't is either | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | because he knows that he has no credentials and doesn't want his alma | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | matter to be ridiculed for educating such a fool or because he doesn't | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | have a real PhD much in the same way that Stallman doesn't. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Ah... | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | It;s THAT trolll | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | ":Slimer" | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | My parents don't believe in astrological signs, I do. I use them to get | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | a quick idea of how people are and for both my students and my | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | co-workers, it works magnificently. I am not forcing you to believe in | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | them, but they work for me. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | I know very well to avoid Gemini women and that I will get along very | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | well with Cancers. Snit is a Cancer and we get along, imagine that. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | LOL, he's crazy | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | He lies repeatedly... and also shows deep ignorance of Linux. I demonstrated | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | this well when I was on his show. And notice how he then rescinded his | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | invitation to have me back. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | <https://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk> | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | I go through his many, many examples of ignorance. So you can jump to | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | specific areas and here it in detail: | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=2m28s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Roy says he found an article saying Apple is copying ChromeOS... then | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | depicts this as Apple copying *Linux*. But what features? Roy does not say. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=3m17s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits he has not used Mac OS much since OS 9 and with OS X just a few | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | times to "see what is all about". Then he admits he has had arguments about | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | what is in OS X compared to Linux, even though he just made it clear he has | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | almost no basis for comparison. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=4m58s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Roy gets back to what Apple copied - but is vague in terms of ChromeOS. All | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | he says is "cloud stuff", then goes off on Apple using open source software | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | such as KHTML to make WebKit which nobody denies and for which there is no | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | problem with them doing so. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=5m18s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Still talking about WebKit, Roy claims Apple has taken open source and made | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | it proprietary, but WebKit is open source! When called on this Roy admits | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | WebKit is open source. So what is he talking about? | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=7m05s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy claims Linux is just as good or better than Windows. No support for | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | this. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=7m15s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy makes claims about me saying Ubuntu is the only representation of Linux. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | This is not in any way true - even when dealing with just desktop Linux. Roy | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | is polite but just makes things up! | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=8m34s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits older KDE used to be "somewhat confusing to some people". I doubt | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | he admitted that at the time but welcome him to show where he did. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=9m49s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | I give some examples about how the old KDE was poorly done but stumble a bit | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | with specifics. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=10m30s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits that KDE was trying to imitate Windows ("the XP experience") to | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | the point they had to change things because of trademarks! | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=11m22s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy back pedals and denies KDE used to be confusing! | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=11m44s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy complains people cannot judge Linux well if they do not use it | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | extensively, but he says it is as good as Mac OS which he admitted he has | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | not used much since OS 9. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=12m15s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | I get more specific with some of the KDE things I was in reference to with | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | PCLOS, the distro Roy brought up. I note the list of icons on the left along | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | with all the icons at the top and menus wrapping around, etc. Roy's only | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | response is you can turn these things off... and then he goes to what KDE is | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | moving to. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=13m39s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy shows he does not get that I am talking about a default setting on PCLOS | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | and says maybe someone customized it to be confusing. Not true. He also says | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | he wants to look at a specific set up, the very thing he chastised me about | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | and is not doing well himself (he is jumping to other distros when PCLOS is | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | talked about as being confusing). | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=16m05s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy says I want things to be "uniform". Nope. He made this up. I want the | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | *choice* to have a system be uniform (without giving up on most other | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | choices), but never say all systems should be alike, nor say this should be | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | forced on anyone. Roy turns this around - my desire to see *more* choice, as | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | users being "constrained". | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=18m55s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | I make it very clear Roy's presentation of my views is not at all correct. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | He never acknowledged his error. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=19m50s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy *incorrectly* claims that Linux distros are consistent with their terms | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | by moving goal post from a distro to a DE. Roy then claims the competition | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | has the inconsistency with terms (not at all true). | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=20m35s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy uses the example of Adobe products, but Adobe uses the correct termsm | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Quit on OS X and Exit on Windows. Same with the hot keys for this. I go into | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | all sorts of examples with menus, hot keys, how clipboards work, etc. Roy | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | ignores *all* of this, but then claims it is as bad in the competition *but | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | he is wrong*! | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=22m12s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | I go into detail as to some problems I see with Mint OS in terms of menus | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | and dialogs. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=23m32s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits that these applications are not "integrated so well into the | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | desktop environment". Then he says it is the same for Windows, which is not | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | true, and ignores OS X where it is even less true. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=25m25s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy flat out denies that older versions of PCLOS have the inconsistencies I | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | speak about from direct screenshots of a default system! I posted the | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | screenshots I spoke about prove my point. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-menu.pdf>, | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS.pdf>, | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS2.pdf> | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I also kept my word and looked at the newer PCLOS and compared: | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-OSX-comparison.pdf> | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=26m10s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy seems to realize he has lost on the "consistency" view so he changes the | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | topic to repositories and asks if OS X has one. I openly admit the idea of | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | repository is "great"... Roy tries to change the topic to malware even when | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | talking about third party repositories. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=28m30s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy again admits again that he does not know much about OS X, but he keeps | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | saying Linux is as consistent. How does he even pretend to know? | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=29m09s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Even after being told of very specific examples where he is wrong, Roy | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | insists Linux is "usually very consistent". He shows he does not know the | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Linux ecosystem well. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=29m32s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy insists OS X is the same even though he has repeatedly said he has not | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | used OS X. You can work to get OS X to be inconsistent but it generally is | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | not nearly the mess you see on desktop Linux. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=30m47s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy refuses to admit he uses a *distro* and not just KDE. Absolutely | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | hilarious. He clearly knows very little of OS X, which he admitted at least | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | twice, but then claims OS X is as bad as Linux in terms of consistency when | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | it is nowhere near. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=32m50s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | I list what I expect to see on the then-newest PCLOS, having not used it. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Roy says I am wrong. I followed through and was *mostly* correct and he was | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | *mostly* incorrect. Roy knew less about a distro he uses than I did when I | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | did not use it. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-OSX-comparison.pdf> | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=33m17s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about using someone else's open source code and says it is fine, | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | even though he earlier chastises Apple for doing so. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=33m34s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy directly denies the inconsistencies I have proved with my screenshots | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | (and, elsewhere, videos). He also jumps between the concepts of a DE and a | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | distros, proving he proves he does not know desktop Linux well at all. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=34m45s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | I talk about a specific guesses with PCLOS to show who is more right. As | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | shown, I was *mostly* right, though things were admittedly more consistent | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | than I predicted (good). Still, rather absurd for me to be more correct | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | about a distro / version I had never used than Roy was when it was his | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | preferred distro! | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=45m06s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about how tools are being made so that KDE and Gnome settings will | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | apply to the other's settings - the very thing I have been noting *should* | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | be done. He is agreeing with me. So far this is mostly just the theming and | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | keyboard shortcuts but it is a start to helping desktop Linux catch up to | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | the competition. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=44m17s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about how having different UIs is "absolutely ridiculous" - on | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Windows. He does not seem to recognize that having it on Linux, where it is | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | worse, is even more "absolutely ridiculous" (can you be "more" absolute... | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | well, you know what I mean!) | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=46m04s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy claims Corel had a Ribbon before MS. Nope. They had tabbed toolbars, but | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | those are not the same. Roy is, again, just wrong and showing how he does | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | not understand the UIs that we are discussing. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=46m40s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy claims MS has "patents" on the Ribbon UI. He is, again, wrong. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=58m00s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy denies Apple is innovative with the iPhone. Just amazing - he does not | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | get how Apple re-invented the industry and how Google went back to the | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | drawing board when they saw the iPhone. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h00m40s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy goes into paranoid ideas about how satisfaction surveys are biased and | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | rigged and how sales are what matters. This is amazing given how desktop | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Linux does *horribly* with sales. He has one standard for phones and another | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | for desktops. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h03m30s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy accuses Apple of being wrong for suing folks (Samsung, presumably) | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | without recognizing at all that Apple is doing this at least in part as a | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | *reaction* to Samsung very much copying Apple. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h10m56s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy denies that companies spend a lot of money / time / effort on working on | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | their ideas which they protect with IP laws. Utter rubbish. Apple spent | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | years developing the iOS UI and when Google saw it they went back the | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | drawing board because it was completely different than what they or anyone | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | else had seen. Roy thinks these UI developments happen "on the fly". Roy | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | tries to claim that because touch screen were around since the '80s this | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | means Apple's work could not have taken much time and money and was done | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | "almost on the spot". Just silly. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h13m45s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy completely twists the idea of people taking the ideas created by a | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | company or individual with the idea of people using public domain ideas / | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | open source code. Very disingenuous of him, or maybe the ideas really do go | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | over his head. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h16m25s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy again twists: I am speaking of a *language* of gestures and how Apple | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | has created that around their products. Roy speaks of how he made gestures | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | to allow people to draw lines on a screen as if that is at all the same. He | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | keeps going on and on basically denying anyone does any real work - everyone | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | just gets work from others. What? Just nonsense. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h16m53s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about how it is OK to copy ideas because consistency is very | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | important and the lack of it is not good for users. Where was this Roy when | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | we were talking about desktop systems? | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h18m40s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy finally admits if you go too far in copying it is not "fair use". | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Exactly the point I am making! But Roy will not accept that the *ideas* and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | not just the code should be able to be protected. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h24m00s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Can Roy think of anything Windows has going for it other than "inertia and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | third party support"? No. He goes into people using Windows because that is | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | what is sold, but Dell and HP and Walmart and many others have *tried* to | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | sell desktop Linux. It competes poorly. Then Roy jumps to a court case over | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | a decade old, even at the time. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h26m43s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy says he thinks people would drop Windows in about 20 seconds. Sorry, | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Roy, it has not happened - and people have certainly had the chance. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h27m24s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | I give other reasons such as Adobe speaking of the culture of Linux and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | problems with programming for Linux. Goblin jumps in to agree. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h28m18s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | In response to the idea a complex tool such as Photoshop would be hard, | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | according to Adobe, to bring to Linux he compares it to how they brought | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Reader over - a very simple tool in comparison. Again this shows a lack of | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | understanding on his part. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h28m41s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Goblin jumps in to agree that comparing Photoshop to Reader is a bad | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | comparison. He thinks it would be hard to port and maintain it for a bunch | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | of Linux distros. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h30m26s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits a "very consistent environment" is important and ties it being a | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | "safe" and "solid" environment. So why not apply that to desktop Linux and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | its inconsistencies? | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h36m39s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | I ask Roy what product he thinks would serve me and others as well as a Mac | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | but would cost less. Roy does not suggest any other tool, not even a desktop | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Linux machine. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h38m36s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | I speak of how I would like to see Linux serve people better - | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | screencasters, quilters, etc. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h40m05s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | Roy blames developers but admits that desktop Linux lacks these things. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h41m01s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | He predicts with the growth of Android this will change. Had not happened | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | yet with the classes of apps discussed. If anything Linux has gotten further | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | behind with screencasting and image editing. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h46m42s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | Roy lies about my views, accounts me of "pretending" to want the things I | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | have talked to him about for the last hour and a half plus. He goes on about | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | calling others "delusional" or "irrational" and puts such behavior down. I | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | absolutely agree with him and speak out against that. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h47m07s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | He is pretending the COLA herd are not the ones engaging in name calling | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | when they cannot support their lies. Roy ends by unintentionally belittling | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | the COLA "advocates". I find that to be funny. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > Even *if* that were true, how would that be any different from you, | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > DumbFullSnit? | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | The difference is it is trivial to show where Roy is wrong / ignorant and | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | you cannot show that with DFS. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Precisely the point. Egos are what they are. If he had a real PHD, | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | he'd be bragging to the four winds where he got it, and most likely post | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | a photo of his degree on his website. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I'd love to see his cracker-box PHD certificate he claims he has. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | >> I want actual evidence that he's a PhD and I'm calling bullshit on it. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > Idiot | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | So, you believe everything that Roy puts out on a webpage? | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Guffaw!!! | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | You better vet the information first before making any goofy claims | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | about Roy. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > You better vet the information first before making any goofy claims | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > about Roy. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Some people with PhD's make incredibly incorrect and ignorant claims. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Some people with no formal education make insightful and wise claims. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Education is a great thing... but it is not proof of being correct. Heck, I | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | have a Masters degree... you do not see me touting that as "evidence" my | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | views are correct. The EVIDENDE and LOGIC are what matters. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> Spamowitz claims a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics from Manchester | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> University (aka the University of Manchester) | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> http://schestowitz.com/roy/ | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Roy Schestowitz | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | >>>> https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dr-roy-schestowitz/2/b41/720 | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-uk.linkedin.com | Dr. Roy Schestowitz | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/nlogm ] | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | >>> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> Providing they bother to fact check such submissions, the Manchester | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> University website says he "holds a doctoral degree in Medical | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> Biophysics": | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://manchester.academia.edu/RoySchestowitz | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-manchester.academia.edu | Roy Schestowitz | The University of Manchester - Academia.edu [ http://ur1.ca/nlohc ] | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> That site isn't affiliated with U of Manchester, and it's actually | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> Spamowitz making that claim (not that I think he's lying). | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> He shows 8 research publications: | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Roy_Schestowitz | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.researchgate.net | Roy Schestowitz (The University of Manchester, Manchester) on ResearchGate - Expertise: Computer Graphics [ http://ur1.ca/nloje ] | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | > The thing about research publications is that if you are hired to work | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > at a university in your field, you are expected to either teach and | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > research or research and write publications on a regular basis. 8 seems | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > a low number, but I suppose that it's possible. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > However, you and I both know that when someone graduates from a | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > university, they're very up front where from. For instance, if I have a | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > Bachelors from McGill University, which I do, I am not shy about putting | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > B. Ed TFSL McGill University. In this case, he simply writes Dr.. Where | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > it actually came from is unknown. An authentic doctor would have written | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > Dr. Roy Schestowitz PhD Manchester University so that his credentials to | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > speak on a subject could be verified. The fact that he didn't is either | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > because he knows that he has no credentials and doesn't want his alma | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > matter to be ridiculed for educating such a fool or because he doesn't | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > have a real PhD much in the same way that Stallman doesn't. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/postgraduate-research/programmes/list/?k=medical%20biophysics | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | "Your search returned no results." | Aug 29 20:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.manchester.ac.uk | Postgraduate research programmes for entry in 2015 | The University of Manchester [ http://ur1.ca/nlop3 ] | Aug 29 20:11 | |
| schestowitz | I don't know what he actually studied, but it seems scientific. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > That's fine, but, in my opinion, it made no sense for you to give | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > Slimer a pass on his weight lifting claim. From the images I've | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > seen, Roy definitely looks to have spent far more time on a bench | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > than Slimer | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I've learned you can't judge strength by muscle size or definition, etc. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Do a search for Dennis Rogers strongman. He's a smaller guy who can do | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | incredible feats of strength. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > (by the way, this is just a simple credibility check, if your goal is | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > just to troll, ignore it ;) | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I don't troll. I debate and flame and attack, and stick around for 10 | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | years. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | And I didn't give Slimer a pass on his weightlifting claims. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | late Oct/early Nov 2014 | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | ====================================================================== | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Slimer: "However, I'm not a cardio guy as much as I am an endurance | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | body-building kind of guy. I'm the type to do 60 repetitions of 200lbs | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | weight lifts at a time." | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | (since he said 'at a time' I assumed he did 60 consecutive reps) | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DFS: "Nice! What lift?" | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Slimer: "I'm not a professional body builder so I don't know the terms | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | exactly. As a result, if you sk me "what lift," I would have to assume | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you mean in what position. The 200lb endurance stuff is what I do on my | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | back. I do higher weights sitting down." | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DFS: "What exercise do you do 60 reps of with 200 lbs? Machine or free | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | weights?" | Aug 29 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | few days later: | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DFS to Slimer: "Unless you can do one set of 60 reps with 200lbs, then | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you are lying. But you seemed to come clean and admit it was 4 sets of | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | 15 reps of 200lbs with a minute rest between sets... still good | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | strength. And it was bench presses?" | Aug 29 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | If Slimer had insisted he did 60 straight reps of 200lbs on the bench I | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | would've asked for video proof, since I know that's a rare feat. 4 sets | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | of 15 with rest isn't at all outrageous, though. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I ask everyone for proof if they make claims I consider extraordinary. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Flattie claimed 'perfect pitch' and I called her out, and she gave | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | adequate proof. On the other hand, neither 7 nor Rex/Debbie Ballard | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | ever once gave proof of their outlandish claims. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | >> But I do believe he has a Ph.D. He's still a lying tool who posts | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | >> completely idiotic stuff on his sham website. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > If he's also a "Software Engineer" (as that link claims), by looking | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > at his site I'd say he must not care much about the field at all. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Software Engineer isn't limited to web development, of course. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > Precisely the point. Egos are what they are. If he had a real PHD, | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > he'd be bragging to the four winds where he got it, and most likely post | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > a photo of his degree on his website. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > I'd love to see his cracker-box PHD certificate he claims he has. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | If any of you are betting men, I'd love to wager $20 that his PhD | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | doesn't exist. The guy was schooled by Snit for Christ's sake. No | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | offense to Snit at all but a PhD should have mopped the floor with him, | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | not just made him look all that much smarter. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | < snip > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/postgraduate-research/programmes/list/?k=medical%20biophysics | Aug 29 20:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.manchester.ac.uk | Postgraduate research programmes for entry in 2015 | The University of Manchester [ http://ur1.ca/nlop3 ] | Aug 29 20:12 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > "Your search returned no results." | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > I don't know what he actually studied, but it seems scientific. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | He could have simply added his name there and not contributed to the | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | article in any way. We've all encountered lazy people who take credit | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | for our achievements. Does Roy Schestowitz strike you as _not_ being | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | that type of person? | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | >> "Your search returned no results." | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | >> I don't know what he actually studied, but it seems scientific. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > He could have simply added his name there and not contributed to the | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > article in any way. We've all encountered lazy people who take credit | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > for our achievements. Does Roy Schestowitz strike you as _not_ being | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > that type of person? | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | I judge him and others based on how they present themselves - their ACTUAL | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | words and behavior. Roy is not reputable. He makes things up. He lies. It is | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | trivial to show examples... and if you do a search for my comments on his | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | site you can see where I call him out on many such things. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | To his credit he allows such comments on his site. I very much commend him | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | for that. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > Some people with PhD's make incredibly incorrect and ignorant claims. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > Some people with no formal education make insightful and wise claims. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > Education is a great thing... but it is not proof of being correct. Heck, I | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > have a Masters degree... you do not see me touting that as "evidence" my | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > views are correct. The EVIDENDE and LOGIC are what matters. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Most holders of PHDs are hoping to either make a lot of money, or fame. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | But even I know that degrees don't make people smarter or wiser. Bill | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Gates is an excellent example as a Harvard dropout, yet he went on to | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | become a billionaire. | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/637672848979587072 | Aug 29 20:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Lot of hacked bots out there @schestowitz Winduhs 10 is running on 75 million PCs. http://t.co/A2igNe3Qj7 | Aug 29 20:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.forbes.com | Windows 10 Is Running On 75 Million PCs | Aug 29 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | So Micrisift says | Aug 29 20:30 |
| schestowitz | without showing data | Aug 29 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6498211 | Aug 23 06:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that #gcse season is over let's remind ourselves #cambridge and #oxford are pedigree/dynasty cultist institutions, need ties to apply | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | "I love when words like “pedigree” and “breeding” are applied to people. It makes them sound like livestock. :)" | Aug 23 06:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6497562 | Aug 23 06:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Old] #nsa staff watching people naked 'for the lols' http://jezebel.com/the-nsa-is-looking-at-your-naked-pictures-and-laughing-1606996822 clearly not run by grownups, just immature extortionists | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> jezebel.com | The NSA Is Looking At Your Naked Pictures and Laughing [ http://ur1.ca/niu2x ] | Aug 23 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | "If they were to find a nude picture of me, they’d be too buys vomiting to laugh." | Aug 23 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/635388617788116993 | Aug 23 10:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Why the workplace of 2016 could echo Orwell’s 1984 @schestowitz http://t.co/c3M9ifZYBT | Aug 23 10:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Why the workplace of 2016 could echo Orwell’s 1984 | Technology | The Guardian | Aug 23 10:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/635388775502381056 | Aug 23 10:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@T_Miller_Harper: I shall just have to rely on using the scientific instruments I have, otherwise known as eyes & sky to guide my day. https://t.co/3DzGUq53XY | Aug 23 10:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #bbc is divorcing the Met Office http://t.co/BCE3z8s1h4 sad in a way. The only BBC thing I ever use. Hot day today. http://t.co/DJG39d6PwT | Aug 23 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | Not as reliable as satellite footage and analysis | Aug 23 10:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/strolltoitaly/status/635389535002697728 | Aug 23 10:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@strolltoitaly: @T_Miller_Harper Eyes and ears good for current meteorological status, not so good for umbrella stuff. | Aug 23 10:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/635390827339104256 | Aug 23 10:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz I get migraine 4 days prior to impeding storm, and bones hurt when temp drops. I make an excellent weather station IMO. | Aug 23 10:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Adeybob/status/635403223881383936 https://twitter.com/Adeybob/status/635403390051319808 | Aug 23 11:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Adeybob: @schestowitz : simple answers to simple problems...good evil...right wrong. People are stupid to think in such illogical polar extremes. | Aug 23 11:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Adeybob: @schestowitz : Adam Curtis has it sussed. | Aug 23 11:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/635403839244341249 | Aug 23 11:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: You're gonna be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist' by those who are charged w/controlling/repeating official narrative: https://t.co/DkM1nd3734 | Aug 23 11:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The false dichotomy #propaganda method is used sparingly to stereotype many sceptics (notable example is "controlled demolition" in 9/11) | Aug 23 11:53 | |
| schestowitz | My point was, officials want the public to think that everyone challenging intel' potency in 9/11 believes in "WTC demolition" | Aug 23 11:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/635406776989409280 | Aug 23 12:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: Perhaps 'changing ideology' was never the purpose; rather the more mundane 'because WE CAN'/'Murican exceptionalism? https://t.co/RjfSn69Zh2 | Aug 23 12:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The notion of killing people without trial (by the thousands) as means of changing ideology is so lame that even Russia hardly pursues it | Aug 23 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/635411263191842816 | Aug 23 12:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz No. Marriage should be based on love and commitment, not expediency. History shows dangers of alternative mind set | Aug 23 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | Ah, yes, if my joke it to be taken seriously ;-) | Aug 23 12:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/635414675388153856 | Aug 23 12:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz I gathered you were joking. But we live in a world where expediency and opportunism overrides affection & trust That is tragic! | Aug 23 12:36 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, how much do I agree with you based on what I saw... | Aug 23 12:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/635434177060556800 | Aug 23 13:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz they count 0,1,many ;-) | Aug 23 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | Five Eyes is 5. | Aug 23 13:55 |
| schestowitz | But one hat, with the same three colours | Aug 23 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/635435564913815552 | Aug 23 13:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz five eyes is one dystopian entity. Supranational oppression catalyst. | Aug 23 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635452834364788737 | Aug 23 15:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz McGovern doesn't appear to know about rebel comm intercepts tying GRU to Buk movements in east UA 7/17/14. #MH17 | Aug 23 15:19 | |
| schestowitz | Are these publicly accessible? | Aug 23 15:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635470026431197184 | Aug 23 16:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Women "buy" unpalatable things if sold as "feminist". Do men do the reciprocal? | Aug 23 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | yes, many examples | Aug 23 16:17 |
| schestowitz | some things are sold as "making the man stronger/more dominant" | Aug 23 16:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635471091302035456 | Aug 23 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Such as? | Aug 23 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | large cars, guns, etc. | Aug 23 16:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500692 | Aug 23 16:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: First #AmericanSniper #propaganda flick, now #AmericanUltra - making comedy of #assassination (recall #theInterview ) https://reason.com/archives/2015/08/21/movie-review-american-ultra | Aug 23 16:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500956 | Aug 23 16:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gourley and #amazon (in bed with the #cia in exchange for lots of money) give 'for' free spooks' #propaganda (e)book https://ctovision.com/2015/08/kindle-version-of-the-cyber-threat-provided-free-20-21-august-2015/ | Aug 23 16:21 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ctovision.com | Kindle Version of The Cyber Threat Provided Free 20-21 August 2015 - CTOvision.com [ http://ur1.ca/nj0h5 ] | Aug 23 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635471385922510848 | Aug 23 16:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Well, yes, but because they do. I still don't see how making women complicit in torture makes it "feminist". | Aug 23 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | You understood what I had written not as I intended | Aug 23 16:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635471646711750656 | Aug 23 16:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Guns do make you more dominant. And it's girls who were sold Desert Eagles in Tomb Raider. 007? Teeny-weenie Walther PPK. | Aug 23 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | What I meant by "sell" was the sale of a policy of #assassination to over 50% of the population (women) | Aug 23 16:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635472349333180417 | Aug 23 16:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Sorry, English as my second language. | Aug 23 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | Mine too | Aug 23 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635472751671803904 | Aug 23 16:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Same. Attempts to sell policies as "manly" when they clearly aren't have failed. | Aug 23 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | Sold not as manly but "patriotic" | Aug 23 16:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/635477531957657600 | Aug 23 16:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: A 'leap of faith' to understand some fucks; ancestors were brought as slaves… now wanna implement masters' agenda https://t.co/fTc9gassoe | Aug 23 16:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Not yet ready to blast American people to pieces over #immigration violations http://t.co/MoqPUEGFTd http://t.co/rsvWPNzh6k | Aug 23 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | Exactly, he can't be THAT stupid | Aug 23 16:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/635484012631465984 | Aug 23 17:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Yet we haven't invaded Turkey yet.... | Aug 23 17:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635489831972417538 | Aug 23 17:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz yes. Google "JIT video". | Aug 23 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | MH17 | Aug 23 17:53 |
| schestowitz | still not finding it | Aug 23 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635497167575220224 | Aug 23 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz "JIT video asks for witnesses" | Aug 23 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | I'm just seeing the same old images that do nothing to prove in a concrete way what's claimed | Aug 23 18:05 |
| schestowitz | What I expect to find is some authentic audio between officials saying Russia to pass missiles to take passenger plane down | Aug 23 18:07 |
| schestowitz | What have the witnesses said? I am trying to find anything implicating Russia directly, not the separatists. | Aug 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635499263347265536 | Aug 23 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz you need to do better research. JIT revealed previously unknown intercepts and got 300+ witnesses. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_de_Aviaci%C3%B3n_Flight_455 | Aug 23 18:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Cubana de Aviación Flight 455 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nj1yu ] | Aug 23 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | But they're not Russian, they're Ukrainian | Aug 23 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635500452751216640 | Aug 23 18:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz locals spoke with RU Buk crew. Different uniforms, demeanor and had Moscow accents. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | Ah, so now we're going in to the US "conspiracy theories" -- that the Ukrainians are 'fakes' and are actually Russians | Aug 23 18:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635501390610219008 | Aug 23 18:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz GRU in command of RU Buk with RU crew. Local thugs as force protection. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:19 | |
| schestowitz | No solid enough proof, proving McGovern's case against the rushed judgement | Aug 23 18:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635500062857162752 | Aug 23 18:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz plenty available. Rebel spotter, "Bird flying to you. Hard to see. Lots of clouds and (target) very high. " #MH17. | Aug 23 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/635502244834734080 | Aug 23 18:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @schestowitz only conspiracy nonsense is Kremlin tales of magic jets armed with magic missiles, etc. #MH17 | Aug 23 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | The crazy Kremlin claims are another story. Both side try to lie; Russia says US did it, US says Russia did it. Ukrainians did it. | Aug 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/635504532907233280 | Aug 23 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz So, how come does it oppose immigration restriction on the Mexican border? | Aug 23 18:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6492785 | Aug 23 21:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If #canonical is pressured by #mozilla to make #firefox link to #microsoft (through #yahoo proxy), then move to #iceweasel or #icecat | Aug 23 21:47 | |
| schestowitz | Seamonkey too?"" | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | "If Firefox already comes with non free software, no gnu/linux distribution should use it." | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | "… unless they’re interested in giving users freedom of choice - right?" | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | changing users' preferences is not choice | Aug 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6497582 | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I guess ordinary people are powerless, leaders of both these nations want to dominate the planet. We know China is corrupt, but USA is the worst, it has slipped into oligarchy. | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | The politicians in India are no different to those in USA. We have slipped in oligarchy and none in my nation notices it :/ | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 21:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I guess #FiveEyes could I argue that, since I helped #Huawei with a site promoting #android phones, I am 'naughty' http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/afbddb44-7640-11e2-8eb6-00144feabdc0.html | Aug 23 21:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.ft.com | Death in Singapore - FT.com [ http://ur1.ca/czadc ] | Aug 23 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | Modi is not the very worst, although he too pays a visit to his bosses in US corporations, among others | Aug 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500210 | Aug 23 21:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: John Kiriakaou: FORMER #CIA LEADERS WRITE BOOK TO #WHITEWASH #TORTURE HISTORY http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/FEATURE-NEWS/FORMER-CIA-LEADERS-WRITE-BOOK-TO-WHITEWASH-TORTURE-HISTORY-br-I-Former-agency-counterterrorism-officer-says-he-knows-they-are-lying-I-2228390 | Aug 23 21:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.skyvalleychronicle.com | FORMER CIA LEADERS WRITE BOOK TO WHITEWASH TORTURE HISTORY <I>Former agency counterterrorism officer says he knows they are lying</I> | FEATURE NEWS | Sky Valley Chronicle Washington State News [ http://ur1.ca/nj4ah ] | Aug 23 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | "a nice guy" | Aug 23 21:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/marialuis91/status/635426810918928384?cn=cmVwbHk%3D&refsrc=email | Aug 23 22:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@marialuis91: @schestowitz @NafeezAhmed Meet the Yazidi Father and Daughter Creating a Unit to Fight ISIS. http://t.co/dLTG3Bkr2H | Aug 23 22:41 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.awdnews.com | Meet the Yazidi Father and Daughter Creating a Unit to Fight ISIS - AWD News | Aug 23 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6501515 | Aug 23 22:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "working as a petroleum engineer in the Yemeni province of Hadramawt when he was kidnapped" http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-british-hostage-freed-yemen-20150823-story.html #yemen | Aug 23 22:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.latimes.com | UAE army frees British hostage as Al Qaeda expands in Yemen - LA Times [ http://ur1.ca/nj4wl ] | Aug 23 22:52 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | UAE army allied with al Qaeda: | Aug 23 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Al Qaeda, a Sunni extremist group, has allied with some of the forces battling the Houthis. | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | The UAE has military forces in Aden and is part of a Saudi-led coalition of mostly Arab countries that has been bombing the Houthis and their allies since late March. | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500555 | Aug 23 22:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US Wants To Increase Global Lethal And Surveillance #Drone Flights To 30,000 By 2019 http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-wants-to-increase-global-lethal-and-surveillance-drone-flights-to-30000-by-2019/208774/ automating imperialis 's guard | Aug 23 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mintpressnews.com | US Wants To Increase Global Lethal And Surveillance Drone Flights To 30,000 By 2019 [ http://ur1.ca/nj4wp ] | Aug 23 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, Idiots, I think we need more surveillance. Why do people always have other opinions than I have? | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Now we only need Trump for president and the picture is complete. Americans do not have the brains to rule the world! | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 23 22:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500237 | Aug 23 22:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media in the West reinforces/covers only easy-to-discredit sceptics, e.g. "US took down MH17", "9/11 controlled demolition" | Aug 23 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | "strawman arguments used to ridicule - old technique used on discussion forums - deliberately misunderstand - hence - misquote other poster.' | Aug 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500631 | Aug 23 22:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Telling #china to stop spying on #us "Damages American Interests" according to this plutocrats' rag http://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenharner/2015/08/19/the-obama-administration-betrays-american-interests-in-blocking-chinas-anti-corruption-efforts/ #hypocrisy too | Aug 23 22:54 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.forbes.com | The Obama Administration Damages American Interests In Blocking China's Anti-Corruption Efforts [ http://ur1.ca/nj4x6 ] | Aug 23 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | "The corrupt go to the US because there corruption pays off, “birds of a feather flock together”. Cant have China being seen as less corrupt than the US, would damage their reputation." | Aug 23 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6501079 | Aug 23 22:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Could ‘Licence to kill’ be the solution to Scarborough’s seagull woes? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/could-licence-to-kill-be-the-solution-to-scarborough-s-seagull-woes-1-7419536 what next? Geese? Squirrels? | Aug 23 22:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.yorkshirepost.co.uk | Could ‘Licence to kill’ be the solution to Scarborough’s seagull woes? - Yorkshire Post [ http://ur1.ca/nj47z ] | Aug 23 22:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes but no thanks to government’s pilot scheme to cull them a little while back." | Aug 23 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BanditPoe/status/635611256590831616 | Aug 24 05:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BanditPoe: what about the Vietnamese and Cambodians killing Their own people? @Tinawanis @AlnicoII @aprilpole https://t.co/Mw2l1Minhw | Aug 24 05:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Man who's responsible for genocide in #laos and its neighbours still alive http://t.co/QjEUWy38Vg #kissinger | Aug 24 05:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635673454105247744 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635673876635238400 | Aug 24 06:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @CT4444 The Snizhne Buk ship has sailed and won't return. No western rocket scientist to dispute Almaz-Antey's analysis. #MH17 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @CT4444 It was either a Ukrainian Buk fired from Zeroschenskoe, or no Buk at all. #MH17 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635674541809881088 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635674557144256512 https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635674967494000640 | Aug 24 06:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @schestowitz @MJoyce2244 Launch point pretty much nails it. The other evidence collected by JIT will sew it up, no problem. #MH17 | Aug 24 06:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @CT4444 Oops, typo. It's Zaroschenskoe. #MH17 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz U R so funny. You've been defending SU-25 fantasy all along. Glad to see U admit BUK. #MH17 Snizhne!! | Aug 24 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635676557131022336 https://twitter.com/Stredni_trida/status/635676877999489024 | Aug 24 06:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz Simple. Go ask your pal Putin to lay his SBIRS or other sat detection data on table. #MH17 | Aug 24 06:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Stredni_trida: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz #MH17 - no #BUK at all. #UkraineDIDit | Aug 24 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoSethArmstrong/status/635677852453720065 https://twitter.com/loondale/status/635677974470217728 | Aug 24 06:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NoSethArmstrong: @CT4444 @schestowitz Taking any notice of eli or ari is something akin to taking Mystic Meg as gospel.Wake up people,it's just a job these 2 | Aug 24 06:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@loondale: @masamikuramoto @CT4444 @schestowitz BWAHAHA! No one can be this dense. The old SU-25-as-#MH17-murder-weapon-clinger-on now flips to BUK? | Aug 24 06:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jetagodi/status/635679173051305984 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635681031077654528 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635682822792060928 https://twitter.com/masamikuramoto/status/635683193438515201 | Aug 24 06:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Jetagodi: @MJoyce2244 Tapes say nothing about BUK,only mention "car" back to russia. Only subjective interpretation makes your story fit @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @loondale False dichotomy. I still believe that jets were there, because many people saw them. #MH17 @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @loondale BBC interviewed some of the witnesses after the #MH17 crash, then deleted their statements. @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@masamikuramoto: @loondale To me that's a clear indication of western involvement. Why else delete witness accounts? #MH17 @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 24 06:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6501435 | Aug 24 06:37 |
| schestowitz | "I have heard that the golden dream of many Mexicans is Mexico going the way of Texas and California so maybe they might not mind." | Aug 24 06:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Proposition of armed drones along US/Mexico border, courtesy of #gop http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/23/carson-wants-to-use-drones-on-the-border-to-take-out-caves-not-people-video/ wouldn't be long before people hit | Aug 24 06:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dailycaller.com | Carson Wants To Use Drone On the Border To Take Out Caves, Not People | The Daily Caller [ http://ur1.ca/nj9m5 ] | Aug 24 06:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6492863 | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft booster Weinberger calls #github "Facebook for programmers" http://www.businessinsider.in/The-9-most-popular-computer-languages-according-to-the-Facebook-for-programmers/articleshow/48558504.cms does he realise how much of an insult it is? | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businessinsider.in | The 9 most popular computer languages, according to the Facebook for programmers | Business Insider India [ http://ur1.ca/nilwg ] | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | Libreboot said both github and gitorious were working against the free software community and owned by people with very bad attitude. Libreboot also urged setting up independent git repos. | Aug 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20150420115042/http://www.libreboot.org/gitorious/ | Aug 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | and | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-web.archive.org | Please do not use Gitorious! [ http://ur1.ca/nj9n7 ] | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2015-03/msg00001.html | Aug 24 06:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.nongnu.org | [Libreboot] gitorious (aka gitlab) [ http://ur1.ca/nj9n8 ] | Aug 24 06:41 | |
| schestowitz | The Gitlab’s bad attitude smells like Microsoft, as does all of the attention the Microsoft press has given them. I am projecting a FB like operation to Github based on Microsoft’s attitude towards all developer forums and one to many media. | Aug 24 06:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500188 | Aug 24 06:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If #drone executions are changing ideology in any way, well, it's clear that they do exactly the opposite of what's advertised by the media | Aug 24 06:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | It’s not easy but fortunately there is a lot of goos made in China nowadays so I just pick the ones with no US brand. | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday I bought a new fridge, it was Daewoo, no US companies involved. Hope when the US economy goes even lower people there remember people like me. | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 06:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6492785 | Aug 24 06:43 |
| schestowitz | "Wrong, Outshined. Non free software eliminates freedom of choice. To chose non free software is to chose a master." | Aug 24 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If #canonical is pressured by #mozilla to make #firefox link to #microsoft (through #yahoo proxy), then move to #iceweasel or #icecat | Aug 24 06:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6500152 | Aug 24 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #clinton actions shock top spies http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/cias-bob-baer-says-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-is-deal-breaker-45745/ http://www.examiner.com/article/former-cia-chief-hillary-clinton-s-actions-a-danger-to-the-nation http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/cias-bob-baer-says-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-is-deal-breaker-45745/ | Aug 24 06:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theglobaldispatch.com | CIA’s Bob Baer says Hillary Clinton’s email scandal is ‘deal breaker’ - The Global Dispatch [ http://ur1.ca/nj47t ] | Aug 24 06:43 | |
| schestowitz | "If she did become Republican, how would we tell?" | Aug 24 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.examiner.com | Former CIA chief: Hillary Clinton's actions a danger to the nation - National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/nj47u ] | Aug 24 06:43 | |
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| schestowitz | >>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/24/us-france-train-shots-lawyer-idUSKCN0QS0HF20150824 | Aug 24 10:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reuters.com | French train gunman 'dumbfounded' by terrorist tag | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/njbmo ] | Aug 24 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> taquiya | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > What does that mean? | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Authorized / encouraged lying to further their jihad. There are | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > spelling variants since it is a transliteration. There is also a | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > variant, lying by omission, but that I think is not relevant here. | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Maybe what the lawyer told him to say, painting him as a hungry victim. | Aug 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/635750624127160320 | Aug 24 10:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz yep, story of my life | Aug 24 10:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/635837455925706752 | Aug 25 01:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Flash is dying a death by 1,000 cuts, and that's a good thing @schestowitz http://t.co/HLZ8MfrW1s | Aug 25 01:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Flash is dying a death by 1,000 cuts, and that's a good thing | Technology | The Guardian | Aug 25 01:27 | |
| MinceR | html5 becoming the new flash is not such a good thing | Aug 25 01:28 |
| schestowitz | with DRM | Aug 25 01:59 |
| schestowitz | under a new euphemism | Aug 25 01:59 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 25 02:01 |
| schestowitz | EME was it? | Aug 25 02:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 25 02:20 |
| MinceR | Extremely Malicious Extensions | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I'll remember that | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | and Firefox swallowed | Aug 25 02:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't think a single Linux browser did | Aug 25 02:20 |
| schestowitz | GNOME/KDE projects I mean... | Aug 25 02:21 |
| schestowitz | they never should, I don't want such crap. Would rather watch nothing that requires it than have it on my system | Aug 25 02:21 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6498550 | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cisco, Red Hat create platform for IoT innovation http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/08/21/cisco-red-hat-create-platform-for-iot-innovation-openstack/ #redhat #cisco #linux | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | "I can see why I might want various objects to communicate, but under my control not the control of a bunch of companies." | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> siliconangle.com | Cisco, Red Hat create platform for IoT innovation | #OpenStack | SiliconANGLE [ http://ur1.ca/niu11 ] | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | Esp. Cisco, the back doors vendor | Aug 25 04:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6503301 | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canadians are suing #AshleyMadison because a lack of prophylactic protection http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2418367/hackers-breach-cheaters-website-ashleymadison-in-data-debrief-encounter #windows http://techrights.org/2015/08/20/ashley-madison-microsoft-windows/ | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | "What happened to “I have nothing to hide, my life is boring”?" | Aug 25 04:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theinquirer.net | Canadians are suing Ashley Madison over the lack of prophylactic protection- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/njnij ] | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Ashley Madison Disaster Apparently the Fault of Microsoft Windows | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/njnim ] | Aug 25 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | People forget what they hide from some people, or pretend they have nothing to be blackmailed over | Aug 25 04:05 |
| schestowitz | Midland Hotel Spa After Renovation http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Spa-at-the-Midland | Aug 25 05:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Spa at the Midland [ http://ur1.ca/n7anh ] | Aug 25 05:22 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507386 | Aug 25 12:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #linux has new releases every 3 days or so. #windows every 3 years. Proprietary slow. http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-timeline.txt | Aug 25 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | what is very often ? every 3 days is very often also | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Do you think windows10 wil have a new release every 3 days ? I don’t think so… | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | no because windows 10 will be updated very often. | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Indeed updated … it is not different to new release | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Well, at least windows 10 is always lesser than GNU/Linux because : | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | more bugs | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | more backdoors | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | more lacks security | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | nothing really new (transparent windows decorations, visual effects, multi desktops, package manager, true terminal, etc are well known with GNU/Linux since 2k) | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | managed my a company and not by a community | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | totaly open to survey, data-hovering, commercial ads, viruses, malwares, etc | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | The Windows 'ecosystem' is slow and clumsy | Aug 25 12:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507286 | Aug 25 12:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My old computers can't deal well with summer. Overheating and shutting down almost every day this past week. | Aug 25 12:27 | |
| schestowitz | "If they’re old, you might want to check, if the power supply and all fans, filters, heatsinks might need a cleaning. They tend to dust up over time, reducing airflow significantly." | Aug 25 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Cleaning quite recent on my old working machine... the overheating issue is why I dumped it some years ago... after summer | Aug 25 12:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507419 | Aug 25 12:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If your government officials use #skype for 'internal' communication, then perhaps they are not qualified to have become officials | Aug 25 12:28 | |
| schestowitz | "remember when they used to lose laptops in the tube? :)' | Aug 25 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Not to worry, nothing to hide.... | Aug 25 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507342 | Aug 25 12:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Imposing the use of #windows at schools a little similar (to use another domain) forcing students to buy and drink Coca Cola™ | Aug 25 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | "in the days of wordperfect, ms would tell schools that business used word® and tell business that pupils learnt word®. Linux needs “sales”-people." | Aug 25 12:29 |
| schestowitz | "linux floss" | Aug 25 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Sales as a barrier shows that the system is corrupt. fix the system instead. | Aug 25 12:30 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | There is some spam comments lately. For example http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/74640#comment-16425 | Aug 25 12:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy Easter and Remarkable Spring | Tux Machines [ http://ur1.ca/njsxm ] | Aug 25 12:55 | |
| schestowitz | Is it possible to implement a "report comment" button? | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | rianna and I usually catch this quickly. Allowing every registered user to report (delete) items would open the door for abuse.... | Aug 25 12:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/99bazaar/status/636144051075608576 | Aug 25 12:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@99bazaar: #ShareTheLove @SavSydney @schestowitz @evan_bang for being top HighValue members this week :) (insight by http://t.co/Kkolol6hmm) | Aug 25 12:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commun.it | Twitter Community Management Dashboard | Twitter Marketing Tool | Commun.it | Aug 25 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/valeryan24/status/636147311102529536 | Aug 25 13:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@valeryan24: @schestowitz I'm not a specialist, just I noticed since Ubuntu moved to #Systemd I get a LOT of bugs (hard disk change, start, upgrade fail) | Aug 25 13:09 | |
| schestowitz | Same for me, with Kubuntu | Aug 25 13:09 |
| schestowitz | > You guys really know how to celebrate an event. | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > When was her birthday? Didn't Rianne have a tantrum when you included her age in the picture collection? Most women would have had a strong complaint. | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > P | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > From my perspective, after 61 years of marriage, it looks like you both are enjoying married life and that is wonderful. Cherish what you have now because as the years pass, memory of good times fade to be replaced over time with more recent events, but in your case you have so many pictures you could relive your the good times whenever...and that is always fun. | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't going to include the age in the album name, but I couldn't do so because there's already an album with that name (last year's). ;-) | Aug 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MJoyce2244/status/636158063460884480 | Aug 25 13:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MJoyce2244: @Jetagodi nope. Masses of evidence showing RU Buk in Snizhne. #MH17 @masamikuramoto @roarbro @loondale @CT4444 @schestowitz | Aug 25 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zeth0/status/636167872411238400 | Aug 25 14:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zeth0: I added systemd to my desktop and it worked fine, the rest has been through new installs which have also been fine. https://t.co/Qsfr87iJGN | Aug 25 14:28 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Even though #Debian has moved to #systemd as default a long while ago now, I've stayed with sysv" http://t.co/2hVkradjbn | Aug 25 14:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/636171745033121792 | Aug 25 15:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Cheers! Party time today, all day long :D Mine was also two weeks ago, also 37 ;) (just bragging) | Aug 25 15:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/636178685561860096 | Aug 25 15:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: @schestowitz link? | Aug 25 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | reposted due to error | Aug 25 15:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6505972 | Aug 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "I shouldn’t say that I’m surprised…but I’m surprised, at least a little. The Software Centre was never given a particularly first-class experience; the app catalogue was sparse at best." | Aug 25 18:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Aug 25 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507386 | Aug 25 18:22 |
| schestowitz | "indeed" | Aug 25 18:22 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Aug 25 18:23 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6506993 | Aug 26 12:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you thought #greece issues were just a Greek thing, brace and prepare for a potentially though week/month. Not fun/funny. | Aug 26 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Always is someone else’s problem so you don’t care until it’s your problem and no one else cares." | Aug 26 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510548 | Aug 26 12:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #redhat uses meaningless buzzwords: "Red Hat Certified Cloud" http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150825005090/en/ReadySpace-Achieves-Red-Hat-Cloud-Service-Provider | Aug 26 12:12 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.businesswire.com | ReadySpace Achieves Red Hat Cloud and Service Provider Certification | Business Wire [ http://ur1.ca/nk71z ] | Aug 26 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | "tell RH that “certified” is ambiguous in UK english aka “sectioned” :D" | Aug 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_commitment | Aug 26 12:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Involuntary commitment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/nk722 ] | Aug 26 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507087 | Aug 26 12:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rianne's 37th Birthday http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Rianne-s-37th-Birthday yesterday | Aug 26 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | "Happy birthday to her. =)" | Aug 26 12:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> schestowitz.com | Rianne's 37th Birthday [ http://ur1.ca/nk72d ] | Aug 26 12:13 | |
| schestowitz | She says, "thank you" | Aug 26 12:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510766 | Aug 26 12:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sources of #uk empire stabbed in the back http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3209487/Heroes-sign-petition-save-Afghans-Former-head-Army-leads-calls-translators-given-safe-haven-Britain.html "used and hung out to dry" -iophk | Aug 26 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 12:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.dailymail.co.uk | War heroes sign petition for Afghan translators to be given safe haven in Britain | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/nk72x ] | Aug 26 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | Aiding and abetting the enemy of their country. | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | What they expect? | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Agatha Christie wrote that the traitor is more detestable then the enemy - indeed one can respect the enemy for fighting for his side. | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Sentiments which Daily Wail readers can understand. | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | "Anyway - we already have too many Tory voters :D" | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Haha, got it... | Aug 26 12:15 |
| schestowitz | >> > My concern is that this helps distract from FSF 30. More revisionism | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | >> > giving credit to a Finnish lad in 1991. The more it goes on, the | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | >> > stronger the history rewrite becomes and harder it is to challenge. | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > Yes that is a more salient point. GNU is what is important. | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > Unfortunately M$ owns the mainstream media and has been rewriting | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > history for at least a decade. | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 26 12:21 |
| schestowitz | > http://dilbert.com/search_results?page=4&terms=Mom | Aug 26 12:21 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-dilbert.com | Search Results for Mom | Dilbert by Scott Adams [ http://ur1.ca/nk74z ] | Aug 26 12:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507180 | Aug 26 18:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not many people recall (or even know) that #obama site promising lots of things at elections got edited over time to delete/change promises | Aug 26 18:47 | |
| schestowitz | "A lot of people didn’t notice that he ran the same campaign twice. Once for his first election and the same one for his second election. Neither time has he attempted to make good on any of his promises and yet he was voted in the second time anyway." | Aug 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "He was progressive in his rhetoric when he wanted the progressive vote. At all other times and in every other way, he functions as a neoconservative, spreading war, intruding on privacy, and refusing to question neoliberalism." | Aug 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | I never believed him in the first place (2007) | Aug 26 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6505917 | Aug 26 18:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help http://news.softpedia.com/news/solus-operating-system-arrives-on-october-1-but-it-needs-your-help-489897.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 26 18:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkb1r ] | Aug 26 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | "What do you think of the OS? Just ran it in a VM for a couple minutes. Seems like it would be alright. Budgie desktop is coming into it’s own, I think." | Aug 26 18:49 |
| schestowitz | I never used it, I don't have high hoped for it to be frank (small team) | Aug 26 18:49 |
| schestowitz | which phone do you recommend that does not have a back door? | Aug 26 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6506042 | Aug 26 18:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nothing to do with #android (people choose weak patterns) and requires physical access anyway http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/android-lock-patterns-are-highly-predictable-could-give-people-access-to-phones-10469314.html | Aug 26 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | "which phone do you recommend that does not have a back door?" | Aug 26 18:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.independent.co.uk | Android lock patterns are highly predictable, could give people access to phones - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/njnhf ] | Aug 26 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh yes sure, I don’t trust my phone at all but the extra protection is there, might help in some scenario IE if phone is stolen" | Aug 26 18:50 |
| schestowitz | I use a Palm PDA, cannot be tracked (no GPS etc.), cannot be accessed from the back door (no connection) | Aug 26 18:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6511377 | Aug 26 19:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Everybody Hates When You Use Your Phone at Dinner http://time.com/4010146/smartphones-dinner/ antisocial behaviour. Also helps spy (listen/watch) on everyone. | Aug 26 19:15 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> time.com | Using Phone at Dinner Really Is Obnoxious, Study Finds [ http://ur1.ca/nkbeb ] | Aug 26 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Somebody had a brilliant idea of napkin-like envelopes, that acted as faraday cages, where phones could be deposited in on the table. | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Doesn’t protect against passive voice recording, but at least no signal (if it works as advertised). | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe one day we'll have more banners saying "no phones" (listening/camera/tracking), just like "no smoking" in particular areas | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510822 | Aug 26 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Environmentalists Blast Obama's Decision to Let #Shell Drill in #Arctic http://www.alternet.org/misguided-and-wrong-environmentalists-blast-obamas-decision-let-shell-drill-arctic "looks more like an extinction plan" | Aug 26 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | "All those ‘environmentalists’ voted for him." | Aug 26 19:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.alternet.org | Environmentalists Blast Obama's Decision to Let Shell Drill in Arctic | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/nkbf1 ] | Aug 26 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | Should have voted Green party | Aug 26 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510742 | Aug 26 19:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Chauvinist for President 2016. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/25/trump-renews-attack-on-megyn-kelly-and-she-gets/205148 the same A-hole who funds competition that treats women like mere objects. | Aug 26 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Trump is just a distraction. Like Dubya." | Aug 26 19:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | Trump Renews Attack On Megyn Kelly, And She Gets A Full-Throated Fox Defense | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/nkbfc ] | Aug 26 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | But he's dangerous. Even if he just hangs around in politics. | Aug 26 19:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507022 | Aug 26 19:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: By trying to warp #MH17 story in some of the most ridiculous of ways, #kremlin ensures that nobody will ever trust any of its words again | Aug 26 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just historically. Do you think Russia is prepared to acknowledge its imperialist nature and to give up its ill-gotten territories? | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | No, no more than the U.S. Which is my point. | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Their influence beyond the "eastern bloc" is diminished, even in S America | Aug 26 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes. RMS and all that. | Aug 26 19:27 |
| schestowitz | "Yes. RMS and all that." | Aug 26 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6510474 | Aug 26 19:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LinuxFoundation starts security vetting program for FOSS http://www.itnews.com.au/News/408402,linux-foundation-starts-security-vetting-program-for-foss.aspx #linux #security | Aug 26 19:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.itnews.com.au | Linux Foundation starts security vetting program for FOSS - Security - Software - News - iTnews.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/nkbdj ] | Aug 26 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | person, software, foundation... | Aug 26 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/businessweblab/status/636622386599735296 | Aug 26 20:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@businessweblab: correct https://t.co/bw81VCs0Wu | Aug 26 20:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #plasma 5.4 is not yet ready for the latest #kubuntu - probably just a matter of time. Hopefully too squash the many bugs... | Aug 26 20:34 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: in http://techrights.org/2015/08/26/dcos-microsoft-trap/ "trying to make GNU/Linux just subservient to GNU/Linux" looks like a typo | Aug 26 20:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft-connected Mesosphere Threatens to Eliminate Free Software in the Datacentre | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nkcpp ] | Aug 26 20:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ch_s/status/636643986275483648 | Aug 26 22:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ch_s: @schestowitz @firefox @BrendanEich : exactly. To me it stems from a lack of focus. See my 2014 post about this: http://t.co/eH4EOihVap | Aug 26 22:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'standardsandfreedom.net' ( status 0 @ http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/05/24/mozilla-a-tale-of-gentrification/ ) | Aug 26 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6513039 | Aug 26 22:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This article is more utter BS, maybe staged #propaganda (misleading, inaccurate) http://www.fiercecio.com/story/report-one-major-linux-migration-went-awry/2015-08-26 see http://techrights.org/2015/08/26/mccarthyism-in-germany/ | Aug 26 22:11 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 22:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.fiercecio.com | Report: 1 major Linux migration that went awry - FierceCIO [ http://ur1.ca/nkdo9 ] | Aug 26 22:11 | |
| schestowitz | I use GNU/Linux Debian, Ubuntu, Mint and MS Win7, Win8.1 and Apple OSX. There is nothing I couldn’t use on my Mint or Ubuntu Desktop. And for a few programs (regexcoach) I have to use Wine (Windows Emulation). | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Some games (Live For Speed, CoD) run even faster in Wine than on my Win7 Desktop (dual boot). Most people are afraid to try something different. Believe me Win10 is also different from Win7 or Win8.1. | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Stop using closed standards. LibreOffice is a beautiful product.:) | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: right, typo | Aug 26 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Will fix it | Aug 26 22:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 26 22:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft Aggression Against GNU/Linux Amid Vista 10′s Failure | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nkdop ] | Aug 26 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636647002718257152 | Aug 26 22:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz He quit. Which was probably the right thing to do. | Aug 26 22:13 | |
| schestowitz | After a lot of pressure from the inside Eich stepped down. Under pressure. | Aug 26 22:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636648936300785664 | Aug 26 22:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz Pressure to do the right thing? So what? Bigotry is incompatible with Mozilla's values, and those employees who are LGBQT. | Aug 26 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | I know it's an old debate, and it can go on for a while... he had already apologised | Aug 26 22:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/636653611079106560 | Aug 26 22:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fth_nix: So sad to see cyanogen fall, be good if they built into ffos :) https://t.co/KZxhIvAE7f | Aug 26 22:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #oneplus should dump #cyanogen ASAP; it's not polluted by #microsoft #spyware based on http://t.co/CEAD0f9Unq http://t.co/U6r8WwAaDc | Aug 26 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | Should say "now" as opposed to "not" (typo) | Aug 26 22:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ii4ym/microsoft_at_linuxcon/ | Aug 26 22:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft at LinuxCon : linux [ http://ur1.ca/nkea9 ] | Aug 26 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft guys are really weaselling their selves in. I guess this is: If you can't beat them, join them. | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | They are dirt bags and that's it. | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | "They want to embrace you..." | Aug 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Yes, and when they smile they stab you in the back. | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | What this company has done in all these decades, it's unbelievable. Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer belong in jail. I am not kidding. | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Even skimreading TechRights, everything written there is absolutely dripping with hatred for anything that could possibly be construed for being Pro-Microsoft | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure the guy behind the site is so indoctrinated into his own hatred, he'd write something about a food cart vendor in downtown Seattle daring to sell a Microsoft employee a hot dog | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Zero argument on the article | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | mind you | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | just personal attack on me | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | so I guess he didn't spot any errors | Aug 26 23:00 |
| schestowitz | "I'm no fan of MS or Ballmer. Gates is doing good in other parts of the world but his tactics in software sucks. But to say that they belong in jail is a bit of a strech...fined, perhaps. Not jail. We have too many in jail for dumb crap." | Aug 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "That's what I think. "Join them and hope they go under but use them while we can."" | Aug 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "Techrights is a riot. I got into a few arguments with the guy who started back when it was Boycott Novell. That was some fun times." | Aug 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "On unrelated news, CMU student is recruited by the NSA." | Aug 26 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6513491 | Aug 26 23:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CMU Student Pleads Guilty To Making [same thing #fiveeyes #espionage agencies and #hackingteam do] http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2015/08/25/cmu-student-to-plead-guilty-to-making-spy-app-for-android/ #doublestandard | Aug 26 23:23 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> pittsburgh.cbslocal.com | CMU Student To Plead Guilty To Making Spy App For Android « CBS Pittsburgh [ http://ur1.ca/nkekq ] | Aug 26 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | Entrapment followed by recruitment by #gchq is quite a standard procedure in the #uk - I've heard personal stories. Probably the same with #nsa | Aug 26 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6513413 | Aug 26 23:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: National Association Of #Hispanic Journalists Condemns #DonaldTrump For Ejecting Univision's Jorge Ramos http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/26/national-association-of-hispanic-journalists-co/205173 | Aug 26 23:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | National Association Of Hispanic Journalists Condemns Donald Trump For Ejecting Univision's Jorge Ramos | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/nkelg ] | Aug 26 23:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6507022 | Aug 27 00:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: By trying to warp #MH17 story in some of the most ridiculous of ways, #kremlin ensures that nobody will ever trust any of its words again | Aug 27 00:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Their influence looms large among BRICS countries and those that do business with BRICS countries. Their influence will be increased if, as I’m inclined to think likely, the BRICS bank actually starts getting involved in developing world projects and if, though this right now seems a lot less likely, the U.S. dollar loses its position as the world’s reserve currency." | Aug 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/636680090298912768 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID. | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/636680563760476160 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @FrancisJeffrey7 @schestowitz This picture proved how stupid it was to patent a slab. | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/636680565253476352 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AJimenez1988 @schestowitz Photo: iPad in 1968 movie "2001: a Space Odyssey". See also-- http://t.co/zUNY0rVGVz http://t.co/Pi0m2LHKab | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fusion.net | This real-life supercomputer inspired HAL 9000, the evil AI from '2001: A Space Odyssey' | Fusion | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AJimenez1988 @schestowitz Photo: iPad in 1968 movie "2001: a Space Odyssey". See also-- http://t.co/zUNY0rVGVz http://t.co/Pi0m2LHKab | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/636681661309186048 | Aug 27 00:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Free software also powers conservative or reactionary movements. It's diverse and customisable. DIY in action. | Aug 27 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636685714751488000 | Aug 27 00:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz I didn't know that—got a link? | Aug 27 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | Not offhand, but he said he had changed his mind since 2008 or so when he gave $1000 (IIRC) to the opposition | Aug 27 00:46 |
| schestowitz | I too changed my mind, less than a decade ago | Aug 27 00:46 |
| schestowitz | "Did someone say propaganda?" | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | "This reads like the author lives on another planet. This whole site is mindless propoganda." | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Attacking the messenger onlu | Aug 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/message-to-linuxcon-regarding-microsoft.html | Aug 27 01:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxtoday.com | Linux Today - Message to LinuxCon Regarding Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/nkfwa ] | Aug 27 01:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Heh...and it's not like these idiots haven't been shown that Microsoft's just an ol' rattlesnake, either. Microsoft doesn't love Linux- they loathe it. It's basically displaced them out of many of their main markets and is about to displace them out of more of them beginning in November of this year. Just because they wanted to pay for things...doesn't mean I'd take it. Just because I took it, I wouldn't give them **ANY** preferential | Aug 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | treatment. That's how they dismantle things like they do." | Aug 27 01:01 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you missed something. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Its not like Microsoft funded people have not been at Linux conference. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Normally Microsoft would do it by Proxy. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| oiaohm | The big thing now is they are having todo it directly. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| schestowitz | which is maybe worse | Aug 27 01:09 |
| oiaohm | Remember its not free for companies to run presentation at Linux conference. | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | more obnoxious for people who pay to attend | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | not people whose employer paid for ot | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | which means they need to shut up | Aug 27 01:09 |
| oiaohm | Cost of conference has to be covered by some means. | Aug 27 01:09 |
| schestowitz | or the employer directly funding the conference, hotel, food arrangements etc. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Now if Microsoft going to foot the bill. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | not good | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Soo.. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | how about I give keynote at MS conference | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | would Satya allow this? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | How about Torbvalds? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Or Zemlin? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | RMS as keynote at MS HEC? | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | That wouldn't happen | Aug 27 01:10 |
| oiaohm | We have allowed a keynote from a Mono lead developer before. | Aug 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | but Microsoft, the criminal, gets carte blanche | Aug 27 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Of course it cost Novell some serous coin. | Aug 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | because it bribes people and wants to actually destory the events | Aug 27 01:11 |
| oiaohm | How conferences are funded is mostly doing deals with devils. | Aug 27 01:11 |
| oiaohm | And working out how little you can give them and get the money you need to run the event. | Aug 27 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Remember Linux conference are key meet ups in person to swap important things for development like encryption signing keys. | Aug 27 01:12 |
| oiaohm | That is why doing a deal with Microsoft where they have to pay I don't see as too bad of a problem. The conference don't happen the effects on development can be fatal. | Aug 27 01:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: remember the conference that Linux gave Nvidia the finger was super insulting to Nvidia thinking they were one of the sponsers paying for the event. | Aug 27 01:14 |
| oiaohm | Linux/Linus | Aug 27 01:14 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that is the thing the deals with Nvidia and others are no worse than the deals with Microsoft. | Aug 27 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Of course Microsoft will want to think they can get disruption this way but history with Nvidia and others say they are fooling self. | Aug 27 01:17 |
| MinceR | http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/ | Aug 27 01:18 |
| MinceR | "So by injecting Microsoft content into the conference, the conference got shut down." | Aug 27 01:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | 66 Pages of Microsoft Evilness | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ejg20 ] | Aug 27 01:19 | |
| MinceR | screw the coin, they shouldn't get to talk at such places. | Aug 27 01:19 |
| MinceR | (also, money is still something they have a lot of, and they buy leverage and influence for it) | Aug 27 01:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: You have to remember the "Hire a Shill" card | Aug 27 01:23 |
| oiaohm | If you say Microsoft cannot present they will do what they have done with Novell and others to be there by Proxy. | Aug 27 01:23 |
| MinceR | the proxies should be banned too | Aug 27 01:24 |
| oiaohm | You may not know a company was a proxy until after the conference then more damage is done to the conference. | Aug 27 01:24 |
| MinceR | still, you can do your best | Aug 27 01:24 |
| oiaohm | This is really dealing with devils. | Aug 27 01:25 |
| oiaohm | You know Nvidia and others at Linux conferences are also devils. | Aug 27 01:25 |
| MinceR | is it their mission as well to kill gnu and linux? | Aug 27 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Reality is Nvidia is a bigger problem than Microsoft. | Aug 27 01:27 |
| MinceR | why? | Aug 27 01:27 |
| MinceR | what does nvidia want to replace gnu/linux and android with? | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Lets start off with basics what is Linux kernel default graphical envornment. | Aug 27 01:28 |
| MinceR | none | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Wrong | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel framebuffer | Aug 27 01:28 |
| oiaohm | What support does Nvidia give for 3d acceleration using just the framebuffer the answer is none. Only support you have is use the open source drivers. | Aug 27 01:29 |
| oiaohm | Of course Linux kernel is now moving to KMS and Nvidia support for that is still crap. | Aug 27 01:30 |
| MinceR | so nvidia provides crappy support for their hw for linux | Aug 27 01:30 |
| MinceR | m$ tries to destroy it outright | Aug 27 01:30 |
| MinceR | which is worse? | Aug 27 01:30 |
| oiaohm | That was just intro. What Nvidia full does is still worse. | Aug 27 01:32 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia want to always sell the newest card and force depreation of older cards. | Aug 27 01:32 |
| MinceR | meanwhile we can still buy intel or amd | Aug 27 01:33 |
| MinceR | or even arm | Aug 27 01:33 |
| oiaohm | The problem is Nvidia crappy support is intetional. | Aug 27 01:33 |
| oiaohm | Even Microsoft has end up head to head with nvidia and had to bend over and take it or Nvidia would not make Microsoft drivers any more. | Aug 27 01:34 |
| MinceR | and yet none of this affects you if you use non-nvidia gpu | Aug 27 01:35 |
| oiaohm | ATI before being aquired by AMD was worse for Linux than current day Nvidia. | Aug 27 01:35 |
| MinceR | intel is still better than either, gpu-wise | Aug 27 01:36 |
| oiaohm | Intel only really started recenting investing in making serous quality video cards. | Aug 27 01:36 |
| oiaohm | When wintel was going well Intel was here is the gpu documentation without help see if you can make it work its not our problem. | Aug 27 01:36 |
| oiaohm | All these things are highly damaging if you will get a OS to run. | Aug 27 01:37 |
| MinceR | and destroying the kernel/OS you were using isn't? | Aug 27 01:38 |
| MinceR | trying to transform the industry so you don't even get to choose what "your" "computer" runs isn't? | Aug 27 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Intel ATI and Nvidia have all being attempting todo that. | Aug 27 01:39 |
| oiaohm | One more hostile at a Linux conference is not really going to make much difference. | Aug 27 01:39 |
| MinceR | it is, if it's well known to be hostile | Aug 27 01:40 |
| MinceR | read the plamondon interview | Aug 27 01:40 |
| oiaohm | The fun part about the Microsoft loves Linux thing is it cause MS Trolls issues. | Aug 27 01:41 |
| oiaohm | No matter what Microsoft does at Linux conferences will not stop Legal departments in companies looking at Microsoft and hating them. | Aug 27 01:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: wintel days intel video card documentation contained many intentional errors. So at that time of history intel was Linux hostile. | Aug 27 01:43 |
| MinceR | because they were allied with m$ | Aug 27 01:44 |
| oiaohm | UEFI the signing bit only go in standard with Intel support. | Aug 27 01:44 |
| oiaohm | I would be more care on using the word were. | Aug 27 01:45 |
| MinceR | plus they have intel boot guard | Aug 27 01:45 |
| oiaohm | Intel and Microsoft are still kind allied just releationship is now strained. | Aug 27 01:45 |
| schestowitz | hardly | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | Intel just went more ploygamist | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | Because sucking Microsoft cock isn't profitable, Intel is burning | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | so it tries to be nice with Rackspace, Red Hat, Google, etc. | Aug 27 01:46 |
| schestowitz | It's just a "dick-sucking competition" to Intel | Aug 27 01:47 |
| MinceR | intel will survive on */linux. m$ probably won't. | Aug 27 01:47 |
| schestowitz | to use torvalds words | Aug 27 01:47 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard is most likely worse than any Microsoft can do.d | Aug 27 01:47 |
| oiaohm | Even HP with bad firmwares can damage the progress of Linux more than any Microsoft stunt at conference can. | Aug 27 01:48 |
| oiaohm | This is the stupid part about Linux conferences. 90 percent of the companies putting up the money to fund Linux conferences are doing something to damage the progression of Linux. | Aug 27 01:49 |
| oiaohm | So one more cannot make that much difference. | Aug 27 01:49 |
| MinceR | not so many of them are publicly perceived as enemies of linux, though | Aug 27 01:49 |
| MinceR | and according to plamondon, that makes the difference | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft said it publicly. | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember HP and IBM both are Unix. | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | So if Linux was dead there Unix market might be bigger. | Aug 27 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Its more customer presure that they support Linux. | Aug 27 01:51 |
| MinceR | gnu/linux is unix as well | Aug 27 01:51 |
| MinceR | systemd/linux isn't, though | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | also, ibm is dead | Aug 27 01:52 |
| oiaohm | AIX and HP-UX | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | the aix market is not coming back | Aug 27 01:52 |
| oiaohm | Still make both companies a few billion dollars a year. | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | though i guess they could be so delusional they believe it could | Aug 27 01:52 |
| MinceR | as for hp, i wonder where they stand now | Aug 27 01:52 |
| oiaohm | HP and IBM are still investing resources into improving HP-UX and AIX. | Aug 27 01:53 |
| oiaohm | So they have not give up on them yet. | Aug 27 01:53 |
| oiaohm | Just companies like HP and IBM are way more PR savy than Microsoft is. | Aug 27 01:53 |
| MinceR | all the more reason to lock m$ out | Aug 27 01:53 |
| MinceR | letting hp and ibm in may not look like selling out and turning the con into something you're not interested in | Aug 27 01:54 |
| MinceR | letting in m$ definitely does | Aug 27 01:54 |
| MinceR | same with novell, xamarin, etc. | Aug 27 01:54 |
| oiaohm | You have had HP and IBM at Linux conferences selling how HP-UX and AIX are better. | Aug 27 01:55 |
| MinceR | then they should be banned too | Aug 27 01:56 |
| oiaohm | The problem is if you ban all the ones doing this stuff you have no conference. | Aug 27 01:56 |
| oiaohm | One of the thing that makes attending a Linux Conference so fun is that is a house full of hostile. | Aug 27 01:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its also doubled sided if you don't know what your competitors are doing you cannot design to win. | Aug 27 01:58 |
| MinceR | i'm more interested in designing something that works | Aug 27 01:59 |
| MinceR | broken shit fighting each other is uninteresting when you've got something to do. | Aug 27 01:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Luisja_350/status/636704569465139200 | Aug 27 02:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Luisja_350: @schestowitz It's funny that I came to know about this, not because I Iive nearby, but because of you, whom does not live even in Spain :) | Aug 27 02:00 | |
| oiaohm | You have to remember its not your house that will always contain the best ideas. | Aug 27 02:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: journalling on Linux filesystems is one of the early ideas imported from what other solutions were doing. | Aug 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | a conference about "my house" is not the only possible source for ideas. | Aug 27 02:03 |
| oiaohm | Linux conferences are more about sharing comparing and so on. Why you see why Linux sux and why Linux does not sux as conference presentations. | Aug 27 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Having a competitor presenting and attempting to be a distruption is not a harm to a Linux conference objective. | Aug 27 02:04 |
| MinceR | except when it is | Aug 27 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Now either they do that in public at a conference when you can counter it or like Microsoft has with whitepapers to companies not to go Linux. | Aug 27 02:05 |
| MinceR | if the companies believe m$ whitepapers, they deserve what they get. | Aug 27 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Remember the Hp white paper that said Munich running Linux was more expensive than if they went Windows. | Aug 27 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Hp has worked with Microsoft. | Aug 27 02:06 |
| oiaohm | Same has IBM ...... | Aug 27 02:06 |
| oiaohm | This is the problem we know Microsoft plays by Proxy. Problem some of Microsoft proxys are hardware companies the Linux cannot say get lost to. | Aug 27 02:07 |
| MinceR | doesn't mean the most obvious plays have to be let in. | Aug 27 02:08 |
| oiaohm | The fact Microsoft is running Linux servers is getting Linux into more businesses. | Aug 27 02:08 |
| oiaohm | So letting Microsoft in is a double sided sword for a Linux Conference. | Aug 27 02:09 |
| oiaohm | For an Apple conference its a one sided sword that is just going to damage it. | Aug 27 02:09 |
| MinceR | they wouldn't be doing that if they didn't have an idea how it could be used against linux | Aug 27 02:09 |
| MinceR | also, i doubt anyone with a working brain runs anything on azure anyway | Aug 27 02:10 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of hosting providers that are run by people who don't eat glue. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| oiaohm | To be correct Microsoft has to attend even if they don't present due to the massive azure usage. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| oiaohm | How do you think you get submission rights. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| oiaohm | You ID has to be veted in person for a lot of projects at a conference. | Aug 27 02:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also windows update servers use Linux caching servers. | Aug 27 02:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know, m$ also hides behind akamai's gnu/linux servers | Aug 27 02:13 |
| oiaohm | This is the funny part delete Microsoft products from the face of earth . The world internet can go on. | Aug 27 02:13 |
| oiaohm | Delete linux and even Microsoft products are screwed. | Aug 27 02:13 |
| oiaohm | So Microsoft with Linux is stuck in a Multually Assured destruction position. | Aug 27 02:14 |
| oiaohm | Yes Microsoft will attempt to push .net on Linux and their management solutions on Linux. But anything that directly kills Linux dead has to be off the table. | Aug 27 02:16 |
| schestowitz | [02:14] <oiaohm> So Microsoft with Linux is stuck in a Multually Assured destruction position. | Aug 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Not at all | Aug 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | MAD is different | Aug 27 02:19 |
| schestowitz | the scenario is very different here, it's not nuclear war | Aug 27 02:19 |
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| schestowitz | hi Rif | Aug 27 02:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: It is a MAD position because if Microsoft is wins too much it loses. Microsoft needs Linux and has needed Linux or BSD for a long time. | Aug 27 02:22 |
| oiaohm | Remember when it come to the DOJ case to say there was competition in the market Microsoft used Linux Desktop. | Aug 27 02:23 |
| MinceR | they still have bsd and they don't mind it due to the license | Aug 27 02:24 |
| oiaohm | BSD was classed as not successful enough to be used in a DOJ case. | Aug 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | isn't crApple the Token Competition anyway? | Aug 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | the Powers That Be seem content to let uefi take users' freedoms away. | Aug 27 02:25 |
| oiaohm | crApple has vendor lockin the very thing DOJ hates. | Aug 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | they don't seem to hate it that much. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | OS X was the anti case against BSD. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| MinceR | they tolerate it from m$ and even redcrap. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | The key word is tolerate. | Aug 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | If the balance gets pushed too far 1 way or the other a company will be broken up. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| MinceR | yes, as in the thing they should not do if antitrust regulation was anything other than a lie. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| MinceR | and the same thing applies to the EU. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| MinceR | they to go around making a big show of not tolerating monopoly abuses and then not doing anything. | Aug 27 02:27 |
| oiaohm | I would not say that about the EU | Aug 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | EU has forced documentation and patent licensing on different things out in the open. | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | what did they do? made m$ include a browser choice screen that they removed soon after | Aug 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | free patent licensing. | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | and made them sell different winblows versions at the same price that nobody ever cared about. | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | i wonder what sort of "free" patent licensing that is | Aug 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | seeing all the patent abuse m$ is still practicing | Aug 27 02:29 |
| oiaohm | Browser choice window in EU versions of windows still happens with windows 10. Of course EU ruling only applies inside the EU. | Aug 27 02:29 |
| MinceR | vista10 even changes the default browser to IE in Disguise and doesn't let the other browsers change it back | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: samba project has a patent license for all MS network protocols for ever for any number of users and groups. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and EU did that. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| MinceR | that's great but it doesn't amount to much | Aug 27 02:30 |
| MinceR | especially since using m$ network protocols is shooting yourself in the foot. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | But its way more than nothing. | Aug 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | When migrating from Windows to Linux having the means to share transfer protocols is useful | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | there still are huge monopoly and patent abuses going on and the DoJ and the EU sit with their thumbs up their asses. | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | you can use reasonable protocols on winblows | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | sftp, for example | Aug 27 02:31 |
| oiaohm | EU has done a little against patent abuses. | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | and ipp | Aug 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | yes, the problem is, they only do a little | Aug 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | DOJ fairly much nothing. | Aug 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | EU is at least half awake. | Aug 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | DOJ is in a deep sleep | Aug 27 02:32 |
| MinceR | yes, but only looking to serve usian megacorporate interests | Aug 27 02:32 |
| MinceR | they're busy rubber-stamping ISDS now, aren't they? | Aug 27 02:33 |
| oiaohm | The EU is more likely to interject in a patent case. | Aug 27 02:33 |
| MinceR | that's like saying 1e-9999 > 0 | Aug 27 02:33 |
| oiaohm | The problem is the EU side is slow. | Aug 27 02:34 |
| MinceR | and corrupt | Aug 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | There are currently about 4000 IP releated cases open in the EU. | Aug 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | And they take about 5 years to get to court. | Aug 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | The samba project case took 15 years from start to end. | Aug 27 02:35 |
| MinceR | the media player-less retail windows at the same price solution was particularly a spit in the face of all EU citizens and businesses. | Aug 27 02:36 |
| MinceR | that's when the EU really showed how much they cared about the interests of their own citizens and businesses. | Aug 27 02:37 |
| oiaohm | Problem is that will take 15+ years over price fixing to be addressed. | Aug 27 02:37 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem the courts in the EU are way too slow. | Aug 27 02:38 |
| oiaohm | ISDS I really have issue with. | Aug 27 02:38 |
| oiaohm | You know how Australia has restricted tabacco sales. The australian governement has to pay a cigette company over that since they are in a country that we have a ISDS with. | Aug 27 02:39 |
| oiaohm | Government regulation on business should be stiff shit its the countries laws work with it. | Aug 27 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: mind you that media player same price with or with out did cause Microsoft some pain in the samba patent licensing. Being unable to change for the Windows media player network protocols because they had to be free. | Aug 27 02:42 |
| MinceR | the problem is not really the price fixing, it's the tying of products | Aug 27 02:42 |
| MinceR | and that winblows version bullshit didn't fix that | Aug 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | especially since it did not even apply to OEM versions | Aug 27 02:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/636722781133139972 | Aug 27 03:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz I guess $1000 is a small donation by his terms. But I'd wanna hear a lot more about this Damascene conversion. | Aug 27 03:17 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/636857372175114240 | Aug 27 12:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz do not.! use paypal. | Aug 27 12:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/636863784464814081 | Aug 27 12:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dawnbazely: Why no patent or copyright for new food recipes? By @tylercowen https://t.co/er6XGXjK1W HT @schestowitz | Aug 27 12:34 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2006/10/why_no_patent_o.html#sthash.qfN2PWAH.uxfs&st_refDomain=&st_refQuery= ) | Aug 27 12:34 | |
| schestowitz | exactly! WHY NOT? Some people do call for it! :-) | Aug 27 12:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNCdZHqUcAQujvt.jpg | Aug 27 12:37 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 27 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ii4ym/microsoft_at_linuxcon/7 | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Show me a rich person that doesn't. | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I get it. Lots of Gates hate in here. I don't like him either. But he's no worse than any other rich guy. Just different. They're all doing stupid crap and the majority got there by stepping on people | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | gates apologists | Aug 27 13:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ii4ym/microsoft_at_linuxcon/7 ) | Aug 27 13:43 | |
| MinceR | money worshippers | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | "If Microsoft was coming to the conference to announce that they were going to throw the NT kernel in the trash start using a POSIX compliant kernel instead and was going to announce it at LinuxCon, I don't see any issues." | Aug 27 13:43 |
| MinceR | yeah, m$ has such a great record at standards compliance | Aug 27 13:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/01micko/status/636882614951919617 | Aug 27 13:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@01micko: @schestowitz Mandrake-7.3 IIRC .. I can dig 'em out if you want! | Aug 27 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: meh | Aug 27 13:50 |
| schestowitz | it would be "too" secure | Aug 27 13:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 27 13:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the reddit crowd is very nasty | Aug 27 13:50 |
| schestowitz | been like this for years, even before MS got caught paying people to game everything | Aug 27 13:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kenfreeman11/status/636886282124312576 https://twitter.com/kenfreeman11/status/636886328676864000 | Aug 27 14:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kenfreeman11: @schestowitz I called him an activist way before Fox News. Professional journalists don't act like a | Aug 27 14:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kenfreeman11: @schestowitz petulant child | Aug 27 14:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515299 | Aug 27 14:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: GNOME Video Arcade Gets a Major Release with Compatibility for Latest MAME and GTK3 http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-touch-ota-7-arrives-in-october-with-vibration-accelerometer-access-for-web-apps-490179.shtml | Aug 27 14:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-7 Arrives in October with Vibration and Accelerometer Access for Web Apps - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkooj ] | Aug 27 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | "wrong link" | Aug 27 14:48 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-video-arcade-gets-a-major-release-with-compatibility-for-latest-mame-and-gtk3-490176.shtml | Aug 27 14:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Video Arcade Gets a Major Release, Now Compatible with Latest MAME and GTK3 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkoom ] | Aug 27 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/636897056632795136 https://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/636897947645558784 | Aug 27 14:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz I agree. I think that @redhatopen & @linuxfoundation need to invite RMS as a keynote speaker to their events. | Aug 27 14:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ml2mst: @schestowitz I admire RMS for his work on #GNU yet he greatly pissed me off with his Anti Zionist hatred. Yes It's personal :-( | Aug 27 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | Those are his political views | Aug 27 14:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515400 | Aug 27 14:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tourist Unclear On Concept Of Wild Animals Demands #Yellowstone Provide Better Bears http://jezebel.com/tourist-unclear-on-concept-of-wild-animals-demands-yell-1726655809 | Aug 27 14:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> jezebel.com | Tourist Unclear On Concept Of Wild Animals Demands Yellowstone Provide Better Bears [ http://ur1.ca/nkot7 ] | Aug 27 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | "lol" | Aug 27 14:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515733 | Aug 27 14:59 |
| schestowitz | "it’s a small “step” from activist to terrorist - especaly for fox. i call it “Stürmer 2.0” as TV - ok, they have learnt german lessons Heil Murdoc ! ;)" | Aug 27 14:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #foxnews hypocritically calls journalists (whom it doesn't like) "activists" http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/08/26/foxs-tucker-carlson-dismisses-jorge-ramos-as-an/205205 #gop #newscorp #propaganda | Aug 27 14:59 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mediamatters.org | Fox's Tucker Carlson Dismisses Jorge Ramos As "An Activist" | Video | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/nkotd ] | Aug 27 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515595 | Aug 27 15:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Overlooking #fsf at 30 because #gnu is apparently not as 'cool' as #linux http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/At-24-Linux-Has-Come-Out-of-the-Basement-82423.html | Aug 27 15:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxinsider.com | At 24, Linux Has Come Out of the Basement | Software | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/nkotl ] | Aug 27 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 15:00 |
| schestowitz | I’ll offer a little commentary for ill informed onlookers of this post: | Aug 27 15:00 |
| schestowitz | This is one of the results of calling the OS “Linux” instead of “GNU/Linux”. Many people believe that Torvalds wrote the OS when in fact, he only (co)wrote the kernel which is called Linux. | Aug 27 15:00 |
| schestowitz | This also leads to confusion when talking about non-GNU systems that feature Linux as the kernel, such as Android. People hear that it is “Linux-based” and automatically think of GNU/Linux. Android/Linux is completely different than GNU/Linux. | Aug 27 15:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 15:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ii4ym/microsoft_at_linuxcon/ | Aug 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "What exactly has Bill Gates done in your opinion to warrant being put in jail?" | Aug 27 18:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft at LinuxCon : linux [ http://ur1.ca/nkea9 ] | Aug 27 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | "I am digging into memory here, but being anti-competative is the major reason. He dictated rules by memo saying that programs of other companies should not be able to run on their platform. With that he did put these companies out of business." | Aug 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "So? That is completely irrelevant to the discussion." | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Turfers I think | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "Or, you know, open-source enthusiasts are actually getting hired there and working from the inside to change Microsoft for the better. No, that can't be it. It's just easier to continue bleating the same bleat that's been bleated for the past 20+ years." | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "The bleat has been going on for the past 20+ years because Microsoft has been kept pushing the boundaries for the last 20+ years. Even today and probably tomorrow as well. | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "The bleat has been going on for the past 20+ years because Microsoft has been kept pushing the boundaries for the last 20+ years. Even today and probably tomorrow as well." | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | They are still attacking | Aug 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "That's because it is. It's nothing but trash." | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | same pro-Microsofter: | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | "Don't post shit from this blog. It's clearly heavily biased and light on reality." | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Seems like MSFTer may have also infitrlated the Linux parts of Reddit | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | to 'police' what goes in | Aug 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515595 | Aug 27 18:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515253 | Aug 27 18:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ScientificLinux 6.7 Officially Released, Based on #RedHat Enterprise Linux 6.7 http://news.softpedia.com/news/scientific-linux-6-7-officially-released-based-on-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-7-490173.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 27 18:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Scientific Linux 6.7 Officially Released, Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.7 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkrfd ] | Aug 27 18:50 | |
| schestowitz | |jaw_drop I think I am going to install this ASAP| | Aug 27 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6452707 | Aug 27 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BlackBerry’s first Android phone: More leaked pictures emerge http://bgr.com/2015/08/10/blackberry-android-phone-leaked-photos/ #blackberry #android #linux #security | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Most likely is the following solution: https://twitter.com/BlackBerryOS/status/636903205306269696 A switch button within the notification area. You can switch to Android and you can switch back to bb10." | Aug 27 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> bgr.com | BlackBerry Android phone leaked photos | BGR [ http://ur1.ca/nf3cx ] | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlackBerryOS: Take this image of "Switch To Android" with a grain of salt. Is it real...or just a good job on Photoshop? #DualOS http://t.co/y5OUAucWYD | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BlackBerryOS: Take this image of "Switch To Android" with a grain of salt. Is it real...or just a good job on Photoshop? #DualOS http://t.co/y5OUAucWYD | Aug 27 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515245 | Aug 27 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is There Such a Thing as Too Many GNU/Linux Distributions? http://news.softpedia.com/news/is-there-such-thing-as-too-many-gnu-linux-distributions-490166.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Is There Such a Thing as Too Many GNU/Linux Distributions? - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkrlz ] | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | "No." | Aug 27 19:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6505917 | Aug 27 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help http://news.softpedia.com/news/solus-operating-system-arrives-on-october-1-but-it-needs-your-help-489897.shtml #gnu #linux | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Solus Operating System Arrives on October 1, but It Needs Your Help - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/nkb1r ] | Aug 27 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | "I like the aesthetic and the minimalistic mind, hope they get it!" | Aug 27 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515672 | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Is The Oldest Linux Installation CD You Have? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/what-is-the-oldest-linux-installation-cd-you-have-4175551843/ #gnu #linux discussion | Aug 27 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxquestions.org | What Is The Oldest Linux Installation CD You Have? [ http://ur1.ca/nksi5 ] | Aug 27 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | Debian Wheezy stable :) | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | I have the original win$ xp cd that I bought when it came out… | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | "I used to have a floppy that booted MSDOS. I used it to reformat TIVO hard disks for use as regular hard disks in a computer I bought for $100. It’s the machine that ran RH8. I mostly installed from source onto that machine. All the RPMs I could find had dependencies I couldn’t meet. The famous $100 computer was a Pentium 2 machine. Later I got a machine that could run FC2." | Aug 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6516464 | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #paypal a nightmare. Need more alternatives, also to be adopted by more businesses. | Aug 27 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | " https://timerepublik.com buy/sell whit #worktime :-)" | Aug 27 20:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-timerepublik.com | TimeRepublik, the ultimate sharing economy experience: a global TimeBank where you share your talents, interests and passions in exchange for time! | Aug 27 20:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518882 | Aug 28 13:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #grsecurity prioritises 'partners' and sponsors https://grsecurity.net/announce.php likewise, expect #mirantis to shill for #x86 now http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/82430.html?rss=1 | Aug 28 13:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://grsecurity.net/announce.php ) | Aug 28 13:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518193 | Aug 28 13:20 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.linuxinsider.com | Intel Pumps OpenStack Up | Business | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/nl2u8 ] | Aug 28 13:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Finland confirms arrest of Russian citizen accused of crimes in the US https://www.rt.com/news/313648-finland-russia-arrest-senakh/ lots of articles about this at the moment. #malware | Aug 28 13:20 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.rt.com | ‘Witchhunt’: Moscow slams Finland’s arrest of Russian citizen on US request — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/nl2ua ] | Aug 28 13:20 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/637246769139572736 | Aug 28 16:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wigitgetit: @schestowitz Platform Built on the @getr3d Blockchain can end #censorship Check the Blog Demo from the Developer https://t.co/oRbMnfMBDx | Aug 28 16:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> vimeo.com | Demo: Blogs on Vimeo | Aug 28 16:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/E6Ben/status/637247914490888192 | Aug 28 16:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@E6Ben: @Busch_Jobs @schestowitz @SoMediaNetworks Take advantage of 3 days Demo of Twitter Advertising tool http://t.co/4YHLmZ3zaQ | Aug 28 16:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.whitehatbox.com | NO TITLE | Aug 28 16:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/637271370364243968 https://twitter.com/PoliSeance/status/637276450157150208 | Aug 28 16:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: The 20 toughest job interview questions in the world @schestowitz http://t.co/wyjywZ3lyu | Aug 28 16:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.independent.co.uk | The 20 toughest job interview questions in the world - Business News - Business - The Independent | Aug 28 16:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PoliSeance: Candidate Watch is out! http://t.co/KpnehDG7ox Stories via @pacsontrack @schestowitz @ElectAdNews | Aug 28 16:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> paper.li | Candidate Watch | Aug 28 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/owensyds/status/637282528357814273 | Aug 28 16:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@owensyds: @schestowitz @Teemd_Social Check Twitter Promotion http://t.co/rymA80M3WX | Aug 28 16:53 | |
| schestowitz | Considering theres a huge part of Microsoft´s infrastructure running on Linux, I´d have to say No, and stop writting nonsense its not 1998 anymore. Besides If Microsoft does any damage to Linux would be to the desktop users because as you may well know thats their entire MARKET and they need MONEY since they are a company that makes OPERATING SYSTEMS. | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | I still find it funny morons who have just discovered the magic of the internet try to make a point on this old as the internet arguement. | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxActionShow/comments/3iq4m6/microsoft_loves_linux_to_death_and_still_tries_to/ | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Considering theres a huge part of Microsoft´s infrastructure running on Linux, I´d have to say No, and stop writting nonsense its not 1998 anymore. Besides If Microsoft does any damage to Linux would be to the desktop users because as you may well know thats their entire MARKET and they need MONEY since they are a company that makes OPERATING SYSTEMS. | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | I still find it funny morons who have just discovered the magic of the internet try to make a point on this old as the internet arguement. | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Dismissive of reality | Aug 28 16:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Loves Linux to Death and Still Tries to Kill GNU/Linux : LinuxActionShow [ http://ur1.ca/nl5vz ] | Aug 28 16:56 | |
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| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ | Aug 28 17:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-tlhp.cf | Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide | The Linux Homefront Project | Aug 28 17:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > Is that a real post? Why not just roll all of /sbin into Busybox and be | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > done with it? | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > - | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > "NO NO NO systemd does it better because <insert confusing | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > buzzwords that will bamboozle executives and journalists>" | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:18 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150828.153225.e2298dfd.en.html | Aug 28 17:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide [ http://ur1.ca/nl62h ] | Aug 28 17:18 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.economist.com/news/business/21662618-one-will-run-and-run-google-finally-responds-europes-antitrust-charges | Aug 28 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.economist.com | Google finally responds to Europe's antitrust charges | The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/nl63n ] | Aug 28 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > Google responds to M$ proxies | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > == | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworld.com/article/2977085/social-business/one-billion-people-facebook-monday-itbwcw.html | Aug 28 17:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.computerworld.com | Mark Zuckerberg -- thanks 1,000,000,000 sheep for using Facebook login on Monday | Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/nl63o ] | Aug 28 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > Probably half spam accounts | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Yes, or as I put it this morning, passive login through apps. | Aug 28 17:23 |
| schestowitz | >> https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > Is that a real post? Why not just roll all of /sbin into Busybox and be | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > done with it? | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > I guess it was. | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/1022 | Aug 28 17:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Add new "machinectl shell" command for su(1)-like behaviour by poettering · Pull Request #1022 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/nl647 ] | Aug 28 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | Yes, systemd is so unbelievable that even an April 1st joke about forking kernel.org was taken seriously. | Aug 28 17:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RiCHi/status/637299352084574208 | Aug 28 17:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RiCHi: @schestowitz thanks for sharing my @Computerworld article! | Aug 28 17:27 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6519132 | Aug 28 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I've seen the label "hate speech" or "hate site" being misused to refer to scepticism of COMPANY, not people/race. Corporations are people? | Aug 28 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "The SCOTUS decided they were a few years ago." | Aug 28 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6519268 | Aug 28 17:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google uses #surveillance on what you search for for business purposes http://thehustle.co/the-secret-google-interview-that-landed-me-a-job nasty | Aug 28 17:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> thehustle.co | Google Has a Secret Interview Process... And It Landed Me a Job [ http://ur1.ca/nl6fr ] | Aug 28 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Had a secret interview process." | Aug 28 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6508620 | Aug 28 17:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #Linux was born, as told by Linus #Torvalds himself http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2015/08/how-linux-was-born-as-told-by-linus-torvalds-himself/ http://opensource.com/life/15/8/happy-24th-birthday-linux-kernel http://www.itproportal.com/2015/08/25/24-years-young-best-of-linux-yet-to-come/ | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Bunk. Linus wrote a kernel and any kind of os he wrote isn’t in use today. We have GNU / Linux." | Aug 28 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.co.uk | How Linux was born, as told by Linus Torvalds himself | Ars Technica UK [ http://ur1.ca/nk60v ] | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> opensource.com | Celebrating 24 years since Linus Torvalds announced Linux | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/njwm8 ] | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.itproportal.com | 24 years young: The best of Linux is yet to come | ITProPortal.com | Aug 28 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Thanks ThinkGNU, but I think Glyn Moody and Roy know the difference between a kernel and an OS." | Aug 28 18:00 |
| schestowitz | "I think you’re right Will Hill. I wasn’t really directing the comment toward Roy but adding it so that onlookers that see the article and don’t know any better might see it." | Aug 28 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Editors choose the headlines, not writers | Aug 28 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518843 | Aug 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft is not only attacking Munich and distorting a story from Italy (making up 'facts', i.e. "marketing"); it attacks FOSS as a whole. | Aug 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "As usual …" | Aug 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520258 | Aug 28 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ #systemd #lennux | Aug 28 18:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> tlhp.cf | Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide | The Linux Homefront Project | Aug 28 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "Desktop soon to follow…" | Aug 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6518183 | Aug 28 18:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #paypal had a serious glitch, they double-charged us, and I've had to spend 3 days chasing it, still without remedy. @paypal sucks. Avoid. | Aug 28 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Their software seems totally outdated. Stripe seems better out of proprietary alternatives." | Aug 28 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6519343 | Aug 28 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Radio silence from #paypal for almost 24 hours now. They took my money (twice!) and ran. Must find alternatives, quick. Buggy as Hell. | Aug 28 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Good luck, last issue i had with Paypal they dragged out 6 weeks before giving me my refund." | Aug 28 18:04 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520209 | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | The scientists themselves are being unscientific. | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | They should, of course, challenge the individual papers, but then to reach out and make a broad assertion about a whole field of study is very unscientific :) | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | Propaganda, advertising, packaging, perception etc are areas where psychology has been very successful. | Aug 28 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Aug 28 18:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Study reveals that a lot of #psychology 'research' really is just 'psycho-babble' http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/study-reveals-that-a-lot-of-psychology-research-really-is-just-psychobabble-10474646.html people who need help themselves. | Aug 28 18:32 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.independent.co.uk | Study reveals that a lot of psychology research really is just 'psycho-babble' - Science - News - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/nl6kr ] | Aug 28 18:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.quora.com/Why-does-GitHub-use-Gravatar-and-not-user-profile-picture-uploading | Aug 28 19:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.quora.com | Why does GitHub use Gravatar and not user profile picture uploading? - Quora [ http://ur1.ca/nl774 ] | Aug 28 19:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that GitHub's founder, Tom Preston-Werner, also created Gravatar :)" | Aug 28 19:05 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520327 | Aug 28 19:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Liberationtech/status/636870850248097793 | Aug 28 19:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Liberationtech: North Dakota is first state to legalize armed #drones for cops, thanks to a last-minute push by a pro-police lobbyist http://t.co/wUzqUS52y3 | Aug 28 19:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | "democracy®" | Aug 28 19:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/637328189493248000 | Aug 28 19:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: #HackingTeam #spyware rootkit: Even a new HARD DRIVE wouldn't get rid of it http://t.co/3CvPtSiPcM #Infosec + #UEFI goodness cc/@schestowitz | Aug 28 19:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Hacking Team spyware rootkit: Even a new HARD DRIVE wouldn't get rid of it • The Register | Aug 28 19:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6520327 | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but they’re not bombing and killer drones like the ones used outside the US. You know, US people are exceptional and have rights that outsiders not like the right to privacy, the right to not be detained indefinitely with no court hearing … | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Oh, wait. | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | armed drones came to the US faster than I foresaw | Aug 28 20:26 |
| schestowitz | and they're run by police, not FBI, army, etc. | Aug 28 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6515918 | Aug 29 08:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sadly, to quite a lot of people RMS is a "nuisance" for starting the system which they use for free, Torvalds a celebrated hero. #gnu #linux | Aug 29 08:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Nvidia deserved it. For everyone else’s sake, people like Torvalds have spent decades dealing with Nvidia nastiness. | Aug 29 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds was set up. Hecklers first asked a stupid question about gnu/linux “on the desktop” that basically said free software was a failure everywhere but for “some success” with cell phones. Linus put the dominance of free software on cell phones into perspective, but admitted that people’s inability to use free software desktops irked him. His goal was for people to have a free software desktop and the success of free software | Aug 29 08:12 |
| schestowitz | everywhere else shows us that the lack of desktop preloads is unnatural and wrong. Right after that, a naive user asked him why her Nvidia card would not work with gnu/linux. That triggered the selectively publicized explosion Microsoft types like to rub his nose in. | Aug 29 08:12 |
| schestowitz | In the end, the outburst did us all some good. Lamestream media and the Microsoft press would never have spread it around if they did no think it was embarrassing, but it ultimately bites software owners in the rear. What people see is someone who’s very smart, knowledgeable, and hard working, lose their temper over a real wrong. If you are a careful person, you will wonder what could be so bad that it makes people yell and curse. | Aug 29 08:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/637544780256284672 | Aug 29 09:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz have you noticed 95% of usa presidents in movies are white? (post obama) | Aug 29 09:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6522309 | Aug 29 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 13 Simple But Exciting Ways To Lose Your Citizenship In Tony Abbott's Team Australia https://newmatilda.com/2015/08/26/13-simple-exciting-ways-lose-your-citizenship-tony-abbotts-team-australia #fiveeyes #war on #dissent | Aug 29 19:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> newmatilda.com | 13 Simple But Exciting Ways To Lose Your Citizenship In Tony Abbott's Team Australia | newmatilda.com [ http://ur1.ca/nl9zh ] | Aug 29 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Crazy–teaching computer skills without knowing pupil is terrorist and without conviction!" | Aug 29 19:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6522399 | Aug 29 19:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of sale of Flash ads is bad news for #adobe and nuisance marketers. But when will horrible JS (mostly spyware) be blocked? | Aug 29 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Never. Too many spy companies getting too much money out of it.' | Aug 29 19:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6522332 | Aug 29 19:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Phone hacking: CPS may bring corporate charges against Murdoch publisher http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/28/phone-hacking-cps-may-bring-corporate-charges-rupert-murdoch-publisher never too old for jail. #newscorp #uk | Aug 29 19:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Phone hacking: CPS may bring corporate charges against Murdoch publisher | UK news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/nlo08 ] | Aug 29 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | 'Prosecute the man or corp? Shares will fall, the family buys, then sells later for profit. Loaded dice. Corps are intended to be “limited liability”! Damn farce." | Aug 29 19:04 |
| schestowitz | "btw - good morning :)" | Aug 29 19:04 |
| schestowitz | ta, belatedly | Aug 29 19:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6523008 | Aug 29 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Future of One-Party Rule in #Singapore http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/08/chee-speaks-in-yale-nus-the-future-of-one-party-rule-in-singapore/ essentially an autocracy ('good' one) like Saudi Barbaria | Aug 29 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | spotlight isn’t on SingSingaintpoor, Indonesia, ISMalaysia, ISSaudiBarbaria or other vassal states. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theonlinecitizen.com | Chee speaks in Yale-NUS – The Future of One-Party Rule in Singapore | The Online Citizen [ http://ur1.ca/nlo1a ] | Aug 29 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | Spotlight is on independent states - also here on D* posters are in denial that they just follow media spotlight, just as they are in denial their “knowledge” of history is Orwellian - can’t even be bothered to even read him (just memes). | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Can read, but they dont - dedicated followers of (alternate) fashion. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Existential feelings more important than stated goals. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Fundamentals far away are idealised, fundamentals at home too gritty and concrete to be idealised. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Rudi Dutscher (and Lenin) explained that change is long term - generations. Dutscher took slow view, guaranteeing (real) democratic consensus - Lenin had no choice - events and war forced head-through-wall. No such thing as Stalinism - just Bolshevism - would have been different in rich country. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Media personalityises politics - makes it a soap opera - activists react like soap opera fans. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I’m pissed off. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | We’re not an inch forward than in 1968 - we’ve gone backwards - but people don’t know the past - so media lets them burnout - the same for next generation - and next, next, next… with every new generation the media press the reset button, manipulating youth mentality. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Want a good cause? Check the medias list of approved villains-2b-targetted. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, @Roy - SingSing aint on that list - it’s a star vassal - a model for all others. | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Everyone in SingSing are happy, disciplined, have iphones, perfect teeth and smile - it’s The Truman Show! | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I think some people there are beginning to challenge the false portrayal of Sing | Aug 29 19:08 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sdgy9CdUMQ8/ukZTqG9f-jIJ | Aug 29 19:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nloab ] | Aug 29 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | This must be a lie though because "Doctor Dumbass" Roy Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | claimed that it was a failure. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | "M$'s goal is to have it on a billion devices, "Snit." " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | ...so that's basically a bunch of free downloads. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | It's probably not even 75M distinct devices. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | That's Windows cannibalising itself | Aug 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | older versions | Aug 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[1-25] | Aug 29 19:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nloax ] | Aug 29 19:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[1-25] | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/08/25/vista-10-failure/ | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Summary: Confirmatory evidence that Vista 10 is failing in the market | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | about a month after its much-hyped (paid coverage) release | Aug 29 19:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Market Share Estimates Confirm That Vista 10 Failed in a Major Way | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nlobe ] | Aug 29 19:33 | |
| schestowitz | "MUCH as we expected even well before Vista 10 came out, the market is | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | overwhelmingly apathetic, regardless of the price. It?s just not | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | interested in Vista 10." | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ?Microsoft has been on a tear with Windows 10 updates,? Ryan wrote in | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | our #techrights IRC channel (he used to be a Microsoft MVP and he | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | follows Microsoft very closely). ?It hasn?t even been a month and | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | they?ve apparently already patched so many bugs it?s like an entire | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | service pack has happened.? | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | "So, you believe everything that Roy posts? " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Sure. Look at what's happening to the market now just as Windows 10 is | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | being advertised on TV. | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Linking to MS boosters (the trools) | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | An article from the Internet's biggest liar of them all, "Doctor | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Dumbass' Roy Schestowitz. "Vista 10" is such a failure that it is | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | already installed on three times as many machines as Linux: | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-more-than-75-million-devices-now-running-windows-10/> | Aug 29 19:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft: More than 75 million devices now running Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/nlobw ] | Aug 29 19:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Absolutely nothing the "Doctor Dumbass" Roy Schestowitz is the truth. I | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | can't imagine anyone with a legitimate doctorate wasting their time with | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | a web site as repulsive as his writing propagandist articles which use | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | other propagandist articles as evidence of whatever idiotic claim he makes. | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | How come that you are, like Hadron Msg-ID Larry, so incredibly jealous about | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | peoples achievements? | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Face it, you will never be able to achieve a "doctor" status. The best you | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | could hope for is sweeping parking lots. And even that is really stretching | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I figured the post was made to show how absurd and lost Roy is... did not | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | even occur to me someone might believe his nonsense. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | How so? I'd be interested to hear more. Do you have any examples of | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | this behavior? | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | You believed his 'nonsense' as you call it, enough to appear on his | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | techbytes podcast. In fact you believed it enough, snit, to agree to | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | return for a follow up episode. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I also would agree to have a discussion with Rush Limbaugh... does not mean | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I believe his nonsense. | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | A.M. is the prominent troll and libeler against me | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | for like a decade | Aug 29 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | None of what I wrote made reference to any kind of behaviour. I called | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Roy Schestowitz, "Doctor Dumbass," a liar because he lies. Find me _ONE_ | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | article on his website which doesn't use another article on the same | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | website as evidence of whatever idiotic claim he makes and, when you | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | don't, you'll understand why I trust absolutely nothing of what that | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | anus says. | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Creating an ugly website and adding "Dr." in front of your name when you | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | probably haven't even graduated from elementary school is not what I | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | call an achievement. Apparently, you Germans have much lower standards | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | than I do. Something tells me that Frau Köhlmann, the deranged midget | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | who married you, gives you a medal every time you manage to go a day | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | without defecating in your pants. | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > Face it, you will never be able to achieve a "doctor" status. The best you | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > could hope for is sweeping parking lots. And even that is really stretching | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I'm already a Master, I could go ahead and become a Doctor if I feel | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | like it but I don't see the point. My education is real, Schestowitz's | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | was found at the bottom of whatever Cheerios rip-off the Brits came up with. | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | More of that libel, but this troll is a different one | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | maybe paid by MSFT | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Was never able to shot a 'smoking gun' | Aug 29 19:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the whole thread about the writer | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | not the message | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Actually, the rumor I heard is that he turned down the job of sweeping | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | parking lots, since they wouldn't give him the night shift. | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Not enough lurking in the shadows, you see. | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Oh okay, it's just a "joke" -- but that's okay, because ol' Slimeball | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | _loves_ "jokes", doesn't he? | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | He should tell his knee-slappers about his drinking of toilet water again | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | -- that kind of self-deprecating humor is fun to watch! | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | You are nothing. You are dumber than heated dirt. Flipping burgers is way | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | beyond your capabilities | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | You may lie as much as Snit Michael Glasser, that does not make you anything | Aug 29 19:38 |
| schestowitz | except being a liar | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Peter already admitted educational degrees mean nothing to him: | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Peter Köhlmann: | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | ----- | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | | I'm already a Master, | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | You are nothing. | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | ----- | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | You and I have Masters degrees. To Peter education means nothing... but he | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | backs Roy because Roy is of the herd. | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if Roy can help people learn to view YouTube videos. | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are attacked by | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | the shitbags who troll in here. In the cola advocates they see a | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | group of decent, educated, reasonable people. They feel bad about | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | themselves, because they are morally and intellectually inferior to | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | us. So they attack us, and the things we believe in. | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | That was a straight up trollish post. IOW, lots of conclusions about | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | supposed superiority with no factual evidence of its existence. | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | More libel and made up things challenging my title: | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | chrisv wrote: | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > Peter Köhlmann wrote: | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | > >Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, ... | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Awarded by who? A credentialed institution, or some | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | fly-by-night who charges $20 for it? Don't laugh at the | Aug 29 19:41 |
| schestowitz | latter -- a friend of mine got his PhD this way (and for only | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | $20) some years ago as a joke: A Doctorate in Divinity, which | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | would permit him to set up a non-profit church as a tax dodge. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > > ...and no matter how much you hate him for that, it is | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > > much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Which is why the claim clearly depends on its credentials. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Aug 29 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | > The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > attacked by the shitbags who troll in here. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | No, its not: what gets criticized are unsupportable claims, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | bad science, bad logic, lack of ethics, evidence of bias, etc. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | An easy example of this is one poster who _claims_ to have | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | been educated to the level of having a BS in Electrical | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Engineering, yet has made erroneous EE claims which belie | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | that they had actually learned anything, plus they've utterly | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | refused to acknowledge multiple reputable sources which | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | rebutted their claims to show that they were objectively wrong. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Aug 29 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | > In the cola advocates they see a group of decent, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > educated, reasonable people. They feel bad about themselves, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > because they are morally and intellectually inferior to | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > us. So they attack us, and the things we believe in. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | My, my: what a bit of egotistical HUBRIS. The irony is | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | palatable, particularly when the superiority claim has come | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | from one who has so frequently have gotten 'schooled': | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=getting+schooled> | Aug 29 19:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: getting schooled [ http://ur1.ca/nloeo ] | Aug 29 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, and no matter how much | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >> you hate him for that, it is much more than you stupid twit will ever | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | >> achieve | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Even *if* that were true, how would that be any different from you, | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | DumbFullSnit? | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | > You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | You are way too stupid. And you yourself are probably the brightest of the | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | widiots infesting COLA | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, and no matter how much you | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> hate him for that, it is much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are attacked by | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > the shitbags who troll in here. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Except that you are _not_ educated, chrisv. You have already | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | demonstrated complete ineptitude in the field you claimed to have a | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | degree in. Like every other statement you make, the claim about your | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | education was a complete fabrication. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > In the cola advocates they see a | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > group of decent, educated, reasonable people. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Says the guy who calls everyone who posts even the faintest criticism of | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Linux a *fsckwit* and insists on insulting Ezekiel in threads he had not | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | even posted in. I don't think that you're even capable of producing a | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | single article without using expletives, you "reasonable" and "decent" guy. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > They feel bad about | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > themselves, because they are morally and intellectually inferior to | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > us. So they attack us, and the things we believe in. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I believe in free software a lot more than you do because I actually use | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | it. Notice that I am using Thunderbird to post to newsgroups whereas you | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | use Forte Agent, in Windows, you despicable liar. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > That was a straight up trollish post. IOW, lots of conclusions about | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > supposed superiority with no factual evidence of its existence. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | "Factual evidence" is abound in COLA. Just read the foul, hatred filled | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | posts from Snit Michael Glasser, Snit SlimebaLL or flatfish Gary Stewart | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Basically a bunch of socipaths and imbeciles | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Even *if* that were true, how would that be any different from you, | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > DumbFullSnit? | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Which of my lies are you referring to, dumbkopf? | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I can show you an entire website full of Spamowitz's bullshit lies | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | (starting with this thread). | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | >> You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > You are way too stupid. And you yourself are probably the brightest of the | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > widiots infesting COLA | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Tell us again how you can count the lines of code and know how much of | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | the original Linux kernel code is in the current Linux kernel. Tell us, | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | moron. | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Which of my lies are you referring to, dumbkopf? | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Aug 29 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | All of them. You lied a lot | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > I can show you an entire website full of Spamowitz's bullshit lies | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > (starting with this thread). | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Irrelevant what you think about that. Roy may sometimes be a little over the | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | top, but he usually does not lie. No need to, you guys provide all the ammo | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | against your Toys-R-Us OS all by yourself | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >>> You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> You are way too stupid. And you yourself are probably the brightest of | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> the widiots infesting COLA | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Tell us again how you can count the lines of code and know how much of | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > the original Linux kernel code is in the current Linux kernel. Tell us, | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > moron. | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | And now you need Snit Michael Glassers dishonesty with wordplays | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, and no matter how | Aug 29 19:44 |
| schestowitz | >> much you | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | >> hate him for that, it is much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I want actual evidence that he's a PhD and I'm calling bullshit on it. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Usually, when a person is a doctor, they are very proud of saying where | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | they got their diploma. The fact that he didn't do that makes his claim | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | to be a doctor questionable. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Besides, his articles lack the research and objectivity of a typical | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | doctoral-level post. His self-promotion and insistence on sticking a | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | photo of himself everywhere simply adds to that. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I simply assume that he called himself a doctor in the same way Richard | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Stallman calls himself so. In the case of Stallman, he got honourary | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | degrees which recognize his achievement in creating GNU and leading to | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | the development of Linux. It is not however a real doctorate even though | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | there is an actual paper given to Stallman. I doubt that Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | even has that paper. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> Yet Roy Shestowitz is awarded a "doctor" status, ... | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > Awarded by who? A credentialed institution, or some | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > fly-by-night who charges $20 for it? Don't laugh at the | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > latter -- a friend of mine got his PhD this way (and for only | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > $20) some years ago as a joke: A Doctorate in Divinity, which | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | > would permit him to set up a non-profit church as a tax dodge. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | It's a fair question. I'm not the type to claim any kind of status | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | without an actual paper to it. Schestowitz, however, strikes me as | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | someone very similar to my repulsive cousin who is content to believe | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | that he is "as good" as a doctor but unwilling to go out there and prove | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | it with anything resembling real achievement. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | I actually listened to the guy's interview with Snit. Schestowitz was | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | indeed inserting lies, hearsay and speculation in there in a pathetic | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | effort to corner Snit. No authentic doctor would behave in such a way. | Aug 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Without a substantial amount of real evidence, doctors don't make claims. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >>> ...and no matter how much you hate him for that, it is | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >>> much more than you stupid twit will ever achieve | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > Which is why the claim clearly depends on its credentials. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Agreed. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> The fact that we are educated is a big reason why we are | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> attacked by the shitbags who troll in here. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > No, its not: what gets criticized are unsupportable claims, | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > bad science, bad logic, lack of ethics, evidence of bias, etc. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > An easy example of this is one poster who _claims_ to have | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > been educated to the level of having a BS in Electrical | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > Engineering, yet has made erroneous EE claims which belie | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > that they had actually learned anything, plus they've utterly | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > refused to acknowledge multiple reputable sources which | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > rebutted their claims to show that they were objectively wrong. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Enter chrisv, the original liar. | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:46 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlogj ] | Aug 29 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Spamowitz claims a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics from Manchester | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | University (aka the University of Manchester) | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/roy/ | Aug 29 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Roy Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dr-roy-schestowitz/2/b41/720 | Aug 29 19:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-uk.linkedin.com | Dr. Roy Schestowitz | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/nlogm ] | Aug 29 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 29 19:47 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Everyone with more than half a brain would have seen that I was referring to | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | the relative sizes. | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Seems your tiny brain isn't up to that task | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:48 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Providing they bother to fact check such submissions, the Manchester University website says he "holds a doctoral degree in Medical Biophysics": | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | http://manchester.academia.edu/RoySchestowitz | Aug 29 19:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-manchester.academia.edu | Roy Schestowitz | The University of Manchester - Academia.edu [ http://ur1.ca/nlohc ] | Aug 29 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | Contrast that to: | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | "I'm not the type to claim any kind of status without an actual paper to it." - A.M. | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure that, any minute now, Andre will prove his claim to hold a Masters degree ;) | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway (look at Snit, for the best example of why); holding such a degree obviously didn't erase Andre's wacky conspiracy theory issues, which, in my opinion, often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | That's the way I would read it because it's the only way that makes sense. That said, it doesn't immediately appear to be relevant to the question asked. Maybe it makes more sense in the context of the entire conversation? | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Either way it's no big deal and you've sufficiently qualified your answer. Unfortunately, you're having done so won't stop Snit-ish trolling... one of the things that we've all come to love about advocacy newsgroups ;) | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Our words must always be twisted with the worst possible | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | interpretation. | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Also, no explanation of what was really meant will be accepted. This | Aug 29 19:49 |
| schestowitz | moves their claims past being, possibly, mistakes. This proves the | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | trolls liars with no honor. | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlogj ] | Aug 29 19:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | He's not in the staff and anything we DO find with his name on it | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | features him as one of several authors, none of which are a doctor. The | Aug 29 19:50 |
| schestowitz | latest article is from 2006, by the way. | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | A lot of University students write articles. My ex-girlfriend, before | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | getting her Masters, also wrote one. Obviously, she's not allowed to | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | call herself a Doctor because she never became one. My wife, as well, | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | wrote a lengthy article on Economics to get her Masters. If this guy is | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | indeed a doctor, an article on a University website is meaningless. I | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | need real proof that he completed his doctorate. Something he was one of | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | a number of authors for proves nothing. | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Now... | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Haha | Aug 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Try to associate me with serial killers | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | s far as I know Spamowitz did complete his PhD and I believe it's in some | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | biological field. Good for him for completing his studies. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | A couple of points. Success as a student and scoring well on tests isn't the | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | same thing as performing well out in the real world. Some people (and I know | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | a couple) are excellent at learning and memorizing things but can't actually | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | translate what they've learned into real world skills. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Someone can have any degree(s) in the world but still be a moron. A graduate | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | degree doesn't stop someone from being a dishonest liar or far worse: | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | <quote> | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Ted Kaczynski (aka - The Unabomber) - Labeled not merely a serial killer, | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | but a 'domestic terrorist' by the FBI, Kaczynski skipped the 5th grade after | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | testing 167 on an IQ test. He entered Harvard at the age of 16 where he | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | earned his undergraduate degree by age 20. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | He earned his PhD in mathematics at the University of Michigan, where he | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | focused on geometric function theory. After this, he was hired by the | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | University of Berkeley, becoming their youngest professor . He won the | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | University of Michigan's Sumner B. Myers prize, thanks to a PhD thesis on | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | boundary functions, recognized as that year's best mathematics dissertation. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Kaczynski was arrested in 1996 at his cabin in Montana. A wealth of | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | bomb-making materials were found, as well as writings that spoke of | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | experiments in bomb construction, and even an actual live bomb, which he | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | appeared to be preparing to mail. Numerous charges were brought against him, | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | including murder, and the transportation of bombs. He was sentenced to life | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | in prison without parole. | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | </quote> | Aug 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlogj ] | Aug 29 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[26-50] | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, but I don't see that on the above URL; all it says here | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | is "...Alumnus". Do you have a better URL to cite that says | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | what degree at what level? | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | BTW, a literature search: | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Schestowitz%20R%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=17354680> | Aug 29 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Error encountered - PubMed - NCBI [ http://ur1.ca/nloiv ] | Aug 29 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Appears to suggest that he was a co-author on but one paper back in 2005. | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Although this: | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk/staff/CJTaylor/> | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Suggests three other papers, same basic topic & time period. | Aug 29 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk | Chris Taylor (Institute of Population Health - University of Manchester) [ http://ur1.ca/nloiw ] | Aug 29 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Speculating, might have been a Grad student in that timeframe, | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | as it is not uncommon for Grad students to be listed as co- | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | authors on their professors' papers ... although pedantically, | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | it should be noted that undergraduates in some fields can also | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | get listed as a co-author on some papers (a friend who now has | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | his PhD did so). | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Another reference: | Aug 29 19:53 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk/epidemiology/COEH/aboutus/students/> | Aug 29 19:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.population-health.manchester.ac.uk | PhD Student list (COEH - University of Manchester) [ http://ur1.ca/nloix ] | Aug 29 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | Which has no record of him as a current or prior PhD student, | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | although it should be pointed out that their online list | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | only goes back to only 2007. But this is really all tangential: | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway ... holding | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > such a degree obviously didn't erase Andre's wacky conspiracy | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > theory issues, which, in my opinion, often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | One of the tenants of professionalism is to basically avoid | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | making a fool out of yourself by trying to speak outside of | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | your areas of expertise. Bringing that to bear here, the | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | question would be how something like Medical Biophysics (which | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | is basically Medical imaging technologies, such as a CAT scan) | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | knowledge relevance to Linux vs Windows, etc. | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | -hh | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | LOL, MinceR: | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I wouldn't be surprised to see Schestowitz become a serial killer, | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | murdering anyone who uses proprietary software. | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJY8KhUhwb4[51-75] | Aug 29 19:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/nlojc ] | Aug 29 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | That site isn't affiliated with U of Manchester, and it's actually | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Spamowitz making that claim (not that I think he's lying). | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | He shows 8 research publications: | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Roy_Schestowitz | Aug 29 19:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.researchgate.net | Roy Schestowitz (The University of Manchester, Manchester) on ResearchGate - Expertise: Computer Graphics [ http://ur1.ca/nloje ] | Aug 29 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > Contrast that to: | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > "I'm not the type to claim any kind of status without an actual paper | Aug 29 19:55 |
| schestowitz | > to it." - A.M. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sure that, any minute now, Andre will prove his claim to hold a | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > Masters degree ;) | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It's Andrzej, but I looked up the pronunciation and it does sound pretty | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | much like Andre. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway (look at Snit, for | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > the best example of why); holding such a degree obviously didn't | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > erase Andre's wacky conspiracy theory issues, which, in my opinion, | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I just HAD to attack Slimer when he babbled about astrological signs. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | He's smart otherwise, but appears to believe in astrology. His parents | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | failed him in that regard. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > As far as I know Spamowitz did complete his PhD and I believe it's in some | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > biological field. Good for him for completing his studies. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Looks that way. Now the only question is: Did Mr. "I want actual evidence" complete his studies? | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > A couple of points. Success as a student and scoring well on tests isn't the | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | > same thing as performing well out in the real world. | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | No question but one would rightfully assume that, when the topics aren't extremely advanced, a person with an advanced degree should, at the least, be able to comprehend what the've read more often than not. This makes someone like Snit a complete mystery to me; there is no question that not all of his idiocy can be attributed to mere trolling. I realize his Masters degree is from an online school (Kaplan) but aren't there still standards for | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | basic reading comprehension that need to be met before such a degree can be conferred? How does stuff like this happen? Is the education industry really *this* fucked up? | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | That's all I found and I don't know if they fact check (as is said). I see this when I click that link: | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | home.comcast.net/~fretwizz/roy-screenshot.png | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Notably, this is more than what I've seen from Andre, who should be providing "actual evidence" of his claim lest he rightfully be considered a hypocrite. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | >> Regardless of his education, Roy Schestowitz is a lying piece of crap. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | >> You might be too stupid to see that, but we're not. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > I want actual evidence that he's a PhD and I'm calling bullshit on it. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I wanted actual evidence when Spamowitz claimed superhuman feats of | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | strength and fitness: | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | ===================================================================== | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Spamowitz claims | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | 2009: | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Pushups maximum (2 minutes) 125 repetitions, 2nd place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's one pushup per second for 2 minutes straight. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Benchpress maximum 150KG pass, 167.5KG fail, 2nd place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's 330lbs | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Sports/results_2009.htm | Aug 29 19:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Mr. Fitness 2009 - Results [ http://ur1.ca/nlokc ] | Aug 29 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | 2008: | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Benchpress one repetition maximum (close grip, down almost to chest | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | level): 150KG plus bar, joint 1st place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's 150kg + bar = 330lbs + 45lb bar = 380 lbs. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | * "Tricep dip on Reebok bench (2 minutes, middle level): 243, 3rd place" | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | DFS note: That's 2 dips per second for 2 minutes straight. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Sports/results_2008.htm | Aug 29 19:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Mr. Fitness 2008 - Results [ http://ur1.ca/nloke ] | Aug 29 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | ===================================================================== | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I called bull.fucking.shit. on all these. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I asked for impartial 3rd party evidence = a video of Spam doing full, | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | real pushups and full, real dips and full, real bench presses on real | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [ie free weight] equipment. He ran away. Linux advocates always run | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | when called out on their outlandish claims. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | But I do believe he has a Ph.D. He's still a lying tool who posts | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | completely idiotic stuff on his sham website. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | jealousy | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > It's Andrzej, but I looked up the pronunciation and it does sound pretty | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > much like Andre. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I've seen the spelling on the FB page that he (or someone) pointed to... I couldn't remember what it was, though. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > Personally, I think it's all pretty silly anyway (look at Snit, for | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > the best example of why); holding such a degree obviously didn't | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > erase Andre's wacky conspiracy theory issues, which, in my opinion, | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > > often make him appear uneducated. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > I just HAD to attack Slimer when he babbled about astrological signs. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I've seen some of those statements by him.... weird. | Aug 29 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > He's smart otherwise, but appears to believe in astrology. His parents | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > failed him in that regard. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Can't help but think of the conspiracy theory stuff he's spouted off with. I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, mainly for fun, but some of his stuff was just plain kooky. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Exactly. Your above line "avoid making a fool out of yourself by trying | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | to speak outside of your areas of expertise" is what this asshole is | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | constantly doing. I am convinced that he doesn't work in his respective | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | field and actually relies on the pennies he makes from techrights.org (I | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | can't imagine it being more than pennies) as well as a regular, | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | blue-collar job. That would explain why he essentially begged people to | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | donate a while back. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I'll say this: if a complete imbecile like Roy Schestowitz can get a | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | doctorate, there's no reason why none of us could accomplish the same. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Barring of course the Linux losers who demonstrate no intelligence | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | whatsoever, ever, we would all be capable of becoming doctors. In my | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | field though, language acquisition, getting one is a ridiculous waste of | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | time. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > home.comcast.net/~fretwizz/roy-screenshot.png | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I see: I was going from the data field controlled by the | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | UNI (at the top), whereas you're accepting what was entered | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | (by Roy, obviously) in the "free form text" box, which could | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | just as easily say that he's living on Mars. | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "That's fine, but, in my opinion, it made no sense for you to give Slimer a pass on his weight lifting claim. From the images I've seen, Roy definitely looks to have spent far more time on a bench than Slimer (by the way, this is just a simple credibility check, if your goal is just to troll, ignore it ;) " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "If he's also a "Software Engineer" (as that link claims), by looking at his site I'd say he must not care much about the field at all. " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "It's still not really proof of anything. " | Aug 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | The thing about research publications is that if you are hired to work | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | at a university in your field, you are expected to either teach and | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | research or research and write publications on a regular basis. 8 seems | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | a low number, but I suppose that it's possible. | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | However, you and I both know that when someone graduates from a | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | university, they're very up front where from. For instance, if I have a | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Bachelors from McGill University, which I do, I am not shy about putting | Aug 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | B. Ed TFSL McGill University. In this case, he simply writes Dr.. Where | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | it actually came from is unknown. An authentic doctor would have written | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz PhD Manchester University so that his credentials to | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | speak on a subject could be verified. The fact that he didn't is either | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | because he knows that he has no credentials and doesn't want his alma | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | matter to be ridiculed for educating such a fool or because he doesn't | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | have a real PhD much in the same way that Stallman doesn't. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | "" | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Ah... | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | It;s THAT trolll | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | ":Slimer" | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | My parents don't believe in astrological signs, I do. I use them to get | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | a quick idea of how people are and for both my students and my | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | co-workers, it works magnificently. I am not forcing you to believe in | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | them, but they work for me. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | I know very well to avoid Gemini women and that I will get along very | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | well with Cancers. Snit is a Cancer and we get along, imagine that. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | LOL, he's crazy | Aug 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | He lies repeatedly... and also shows deep ignorance of Linux. I demonstrated | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | this well when I was on his show. And notice how he then rescinded his | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | invitation to have me back. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | <https://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk> | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | I go through his many, many examples of ignorance. So you can jump to | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | specific areas and here it in detail: | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=2m28s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Roy says he found an article saying Apple is copying ChromeOS... then | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | depicts this as Apple copying *Linux*. But what features? Roy does not say. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=3m17s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits he has not used Mac OS much since OS 9 and with OS X just a few | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | times to "see what is all about". Then he admits he has had arguments about | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | what is in OS X compared to Linux, even though he just made it clear he has | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | almost no basis for comparison. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=4m58s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Roy gets back to what Apple copied - but is vague in terms of ChromeOS. All | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | he says is "cloud stuff", then goes off on Apple using open source software | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | such as KHTML to make WebKit which nobody denies and for which there is no | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | problem with them doing so. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=5m18s | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | Still talking about WebKit, Roy claims Apple has taken open source and made | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | it proprietary, but WebKit is open source! When called on this Roy admits | Aug 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | WebKit is open source. So what is he talking about? | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=7m05s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy claims Linux is just as good or better than Windows. No support for | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | this. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=7m15s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy makes claims about me saying Ubuntu is the only representation of Linux. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | This is not in any way true - even when dealing with just desktop Linux. Roy | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | is polite but just makes things up! | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=8m34s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits older KDE used to be "somewhat confusing to some people". I doubt | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | he admitted that at the time but welcome him to show where he did. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=9m49s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | I give some examples about how the old KDE was poorly done but stumble a bit | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | with specifics. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=10m30s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits that KDE was trying to imitate Windows ("the XP experience") to | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | the point they had to change things because of trademarks! | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=11m22s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy back pedals and denies KDE used to be confusing! | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=11m44s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy complains people cannot judge Linux well if they do not use it | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | extensively, but he says it is as good as Mac OS which he admitted he has | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | not used much since OS 9. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=12m15s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | I get more specific with some of the KDE things I was in reference to with | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | PCLOS, the distro Roy brought up. I note the list of icons on the left along | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | with all the icons at the top and menus wrapping around, etc. Roy's only | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | response is you can turn these things off... and then he goes to what KDE is | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | moving to. | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=13m39s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy shows he does not get that I am talking about a default setting on PCLOS | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | and says maybe someone customized it to be confusing. Not true. He also says | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | he wants to look at a specific set up, the very thing he chastised me about | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | and is not doing well himself (he is jumping to other distros when PCLOS is | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | talked about as being confusing). | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=16m05s | Aug 29 20:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | Roy says I want things to be "uniform". Nope. He made this up. I want the | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | *choice* to have a system be uniform (without giving up on most other | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | choices), but never say all systems should be alike, nor say this should be | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | forced on anyone. Roy turns this around - my desire to see *more* choice, as | Aug 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | users being "constrained". | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=18m55s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | I make it very clear Roy's presentation of my views is not at all correct. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | He never acknowledged his error. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=19m50s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy *incorrectly* claims that Linux distros are consistent with their terms | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | by moving goal post from a distro to a DE. Roy then claims the competition | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | has the inconsistency with terms (not at all true). | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=20m35s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy uses the example of Adobe products, but Adobe uses the correct termsm | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Quit on OS X and Exit on Windows. Same with the hot keys for this. I go into | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | all sorts of examples with menus, hot keys, how clipboards work, etc. Roy | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | ignores *all* of this, but then claims it is as bad in the competition *but | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | he is wrong*! | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=22m12s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | I go into detail as to some problems I see with Mint OS in terms of menus | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | and dialogs. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=23m32s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits that these applications are not "integrated so well into the | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | desktop environment". Then he says it is the same for Windows, which is not | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | true, and ignores OS X where it is even less true. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=25m25s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy flat out denies that older versions of PCLOS have the inconsistencies I | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | speak about from direct screenshots of a default system! I posted the | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | screenshots I spoke about prove my point. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-menu.pdf>, | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS.pdf>, | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS2.pdf> | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I also kept my word and looked at the newer PCLOS and compared: | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-OSX-comparison.pdf> | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=26m10s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy seems to realize he has lost on the "consistency" view so he changes the | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | topic to repositories and asks if OS X has one. I openly admit the idea of | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | repository is "great"... Roy tries to change the topic to malware even when | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | talking about third party repositories. | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=28m30s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Roy again admits again that he does not know much about OS X, but he keeps | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | saying Linux is as consistent. How does he even pretend to know? | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=29m09s | Aug 29 20:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Even after being told of very specific examples where he is wrong, Roy | Aug 29 20:05 |
| schestowitz | insists Linux is "usually very consistent". He shows he does not know the | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Linux ecosystem well. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=29m32s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy insists OS X is the same even though he has repeatedly said he has not | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | used OS X. You can work to get OS X to be inconsistent but it generally is | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | not nearly the mess you see on desktop Linux. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=30m47s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy refuses to admit he uses a *distro* and not just KDE. Absolutely | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | hilarious. He clearly knows very little of OS X, which he admitted at least | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | twice, but then claims OS X is as bad as Linux in terms of consistency when | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | it is nowhere near. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=32m50s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | I list what I expect to see on the then-newest PCLOS, having not used it. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Roy says I am wrong. I followed through and was *mostly* correct and he was | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | *mostly* incorrect. Roy knew less about a distro he uses than I did when I | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | did not use it. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-OSX-comparison.pdf> | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=33m17s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about using someone else's open source code and says it is fine, | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | even though he earlier chastises Apple for doing so. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=33m34s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy directly denies the inconsistencies I have proved with my screenshots | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | (and, elsewhere, videos). He also jumps between the concepts of a DE and a | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | distros, proving he proves he does not know desktop Linux well at all. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=34m45s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | I talk about a specific guesses with PCLOS to show who is more right. As | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | shown, I was *mostly* right, though things were admittedly more consistent | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | than I predicted (good). Still, rather absurd for me to be more correct | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | about a distro / version I had never used than Roy was when it was his | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | preferred distro! | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=45m06s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about how tools are being made so that KDE and Gnome settings will | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | apply to the other's settings - the very thing I have been noting *should* | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | be done. He is agreeing with me. So far this is mostly just the theming and | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | keyboard shortcuts but it is a start to helping desktop Linux catch up to | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | the competition. | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=44m17s | Aug 29 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about how having different UIs is "absolutely ridiculous" - on | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Windows. He does not seem to recognize that having it on Linux, where it is | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | worse, is even more "absolutely ridiculous" (can you be "more" absolute... | Aug 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | well, you know what I mean!) | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=46m04s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy claims Corel had a Ribbon before MS. Nope. They had tabbed toolbars, but | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | those are not the same. Roy is, again, just wrong and showing how he does | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | not understand the UIs that we are discussing. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=46m40s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy claims MS has "patents" on the Ribbon UI. He is, again, wrong. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=58m00s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy denies Apple is innovative with the iPhone. Just amazing - he does not | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | get how Apple re-invented the industry and how Google went back to the | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | drawing board when they saw the iPhone. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h00m40s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy goes into paranoid ideas about how satisfaction surveys are biased and | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | rigged and how sales are what matters. This is amazing given how desktop | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Linux does *horribly* with sales. He has one standard for phones and another | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | for desktops. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h03m30s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy accuses Apple of being wrong for suing folks (Samsung, presumably) | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | without recognizing at all that Apple is doing this at least in part as a | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | *reaction* to Samsung very much copying Apple. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h10m56s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy denies that companies spend a lot of money / time / effort on working on | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | their ideas which they protect with IP laws. Utter rubbish. Apple spent | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | years developing the iOS UI and when Google saw it they went back the | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | drawing board because it was completely different than what they or anyone | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | else had seen. Roy thinks these UI developments happen "on the fly". Roy | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | tries to claim that because touch screen were around since the '80s this | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | means Apple's work could not have taken much time and money and was done | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | "almost on the spot". Just silly. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h13m45s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy completely twists the idea of people taking the ideas created by a | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | company or individual with the idea of people using public domain ideas / | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | open source code. Very disingenuous of him, or maybe the ideas really do go | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | over his head. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h16m25s | Aug 29 20:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | Roy again twists: I am speaking of a *language* of gestures and how Apple | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | has created that around their products. Roy speaks of how he made gestures | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | to allow people to draw lines on a screen as if that is at all the same. He | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | keeps going on and on basically denying anyone does any real work - everyone | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | just gets work from others. What? Just nonsense. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h16m53s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy talks about how it is OK to copy ideas because consistency is very | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | important and the lack of it is not good for users. Where was this Roy when | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | we were talking about desktop systems? | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h18m40s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy finally admits if you go too far in copying it is not "fair use". | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Exactly the point I am making! But Roy will not accept that the *ideas* and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | not just the code should be able to be protected. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h24m00s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Can Roy think of anything Windows has going for it other than "inertia and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | third party support"? No. He goes into people using Windows because that is | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | what is sold, but Dell and HP and Walmart and many others have *tried* to | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | sell desktop Linux. It competes poorly. Then Roy jumps to a court case over | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | a decade old, even at the time. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h26m43s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy says he thinks people would drop Windows in about 20 seconds. Sorry, | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Roy, it has not happened - and people have certainly had the chance. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h27m24s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | I give other reasons such as Adobe speaking of the culture of Linux and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | problems with programming for Linux. Goblin jumps in to agree. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h28m18s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | In response to the idea a complex tool such as Photoshop would be hard, | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | according to Adobe, to bring to Linux he compares it to how they brought | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Reader over - a very simple tool in comparison. Again this shows a lack of | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | understanding on his part. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h28m41s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Goblin jumps in to agree that comparing Photoshop to Reader is a bad | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | comparison. He thinks it would be hard to port and maintain it for a bunch | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | of Linux distros. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h30m26s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Roy admits a "very consistent environment" is important and ties it being a | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | "safe" and "solid" environment. So why not apply that to desktop Linux and | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | its inconsistencies? | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h36m39s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | I ask Roy what product he thinks would serve me and others as well as a Mac | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | but would cost less. Roy does not suggest any other tool, not even a desktop | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Linux machine. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h38m36s | Aug 29 20:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | I speak of how I would like to see Linux serve people better - | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | screencasters, quilters, etc. | Aug 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h40m05s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | Roy blames developers but admits that desktop Linux lacks these things. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h41m01s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | He predicts with the growth of Android this will change. Had not happened | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | yet with the classes of apps discussed. If anything Linux has gotten further | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | behind with screencasting and image editing. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h46m42s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | Roy lies about my views, accounts me of "pretending" to want the things I | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | have talked to him about for the last hour and a half plus. He goes on about | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | calling others "delusional" or "irrational" and puts such behavior down. I | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | absolutely agree with him and speak out against that. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://youtu.be/vz2PETf9Vlk?t=1h47m07s | Aug 29 20:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | TechBytes56 - YouTube | Aug 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | He is pretending the COLA herd are not the ones engaging in name calling | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | when they cannot support their lies. Roy ends by unintentionally belittling | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | the COLA "advocates". I find that to be funny. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > Even *if* that were true, how would that be any different from you, | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > DumbFullSnit? | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | The difference is it is trivial to show where Roy is wrong / ignorant and | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | you cannot show that with DFS. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Precisely the point. Egos are what they are. If he had a real PHD, | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | he'd be bragging to the four winds where he got it, and most likely post | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | a photo of his degree on his website. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I'd love to see his cracker-box PHD certificate he claims he has. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | >> I want actual evidence that he's a PhD and I'm calling bullshit on it. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > Idiot | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | So, you believe everything that Roy puts out on a webpage? | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Guffaw!!! | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | You better vet the information first before making any goofy claims | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | about Roy. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > You better vet the information first before making any goofy claims | Aug 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | > about Roy. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Some people with PhD's make incredibly incorrect and ignorant claims. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Some people with no formal education make insightful and wise claims. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Education is a great thing... but it is not proof of being correct. Heck, I | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | have a Masters degree... you do not see me touting that as "evidence" my | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | views are correct. The EVIDENDE and LOGIC are what matters. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> Spamowitz claims a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics from Manchester | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> University (aka the University of Manchester) | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>>> http://schestowitz.com/roy/ | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Roy Schestowitz | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | >>>> https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dr-roy-schestowitz/2/b41/720 | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-uk.linkedin.com | Dr. Roy Schestowitz | LinkedIn [ http://ur1.ca/nlogm ] | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | >>> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> Providing they bother to fact check such submissions, the Manchester | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> University website says he "holds a doctoral degree in Medical | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> Biophysics": | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://manchester.academia.edu/RoySchestowitz | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-manchester.academia.edu | Roy Schestowitz | The University of Manchester - Academia.edu [ http://ur1.ca/nlohc ] | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> That site isn't affiliated with U of Manchester, and it's actually | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> Spamowitz making that claim (not that I think he's lying). | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> He shows 8 research publications: | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | >> http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Roy_Schestowitz | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.researchgate.net | Roy Schestowitz (The University of Manchester, Manchester) on ResearchGate - Expertise: Computer Graphics [ http://ur1.ca/nloje ] | Aug 29 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | > The thing about research publications is that if you are hired to work | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > at a university in your field, you are expected to either teach and | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > research or research and write publications on a regular basis. 8 seems | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > a low number, but I suppose that it's possible. | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > However, you and I both know that when someone graduates from a | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > university, they're very up front where from. For instance, if I have a | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > Bachelors from McGill University, which I do, I am not shy about putting | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > B. Ed TFSL McGill University. In this case, he simply writes Dr.. Where | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > it actually came from is unknown. An authentic doctor would have written | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > Dr. Roy Schestowitz PhD Manchester University so that his credentials to | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > speak on a subject could be verified. The fact that he didn't is either | Aug 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | > because he knows that he has no credentials and doesn't want his alma | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > matter to be ridiculed for educating such a fool or because he doesn't | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > have a real PhD much in the same way that Stallman doesn't. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/postgraduate-research/programmes/list/?k=medical%20biophysics | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | "Your search returned no results." | Aug 29 20:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.manchester.ac.uk | Postgraduate research programmes for entry in 2015 | The University of Manchester [ http://ur1.ca/nlop3 ] | Aug 29 20:11 | |
| schestowitz | I don't know what he actually studied, but it seems scientific. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > That's fine, but, in my opinion, it made no sense for you to give | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > Slimer a pass on his weight lifting claim. From the images I've | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > seen, Roy definitely looks to have spent far more time on a bench | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > than Slimer | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I've learned you can't judge strength by muscle size or definition, etc. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Do a search for Dennis Rogers strongman. He's a smaller guy who can do | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | incredible feats of strength. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > (by the way, this is just a simple credibility check, if your goal is | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > just to troll, ignore it ;) | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I don't troll. I debate and flame and attack, and stick around for 10 | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | years. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | And I didn't give Slimer a pass on his weightlifting claims. | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | late Oct/early Nov 2014 | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | ====================================================================== | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Slimer: "However, I'm not a cardio guy as much as I am an endurance | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | body-building kind of guy. I'm the type to do 60 repetitions of 200lbs | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | weight lifts at a time." | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | (since he said 'at a time' I assumed he did 60 consecutive reps) | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DFS: "Nice! What lift?" | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Slimer: "I'm not a professional body builder so I don't know the terms | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | exactly. As a result, if you sk me "what lift," I would have to assume | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you mean in what position. The 200lb endurance stuff is what I do on my | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | back. I do higher weights sitting down." | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DFS: "What exercise do you do 60 reps of with 200 lbs? Machine or free | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | weights?" | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | ====================================================================== | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | few days later: | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DFS to Slimer: "Unless you can do one set of 60 reps with 200lbs, then | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you are lying. But you seemed to come clean and admit it was 4 sets of | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | 15 reps of 200lbs with a minute rest between sets... still good | Aug 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | strength. And it was bench presses?" | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | ====================================================================== | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | If Slimer had insisted he did 60 straight reps of 200lbs on the bench I | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | would've asked for video proof, since I know that's a rare feat. 4 sets | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | of 15 with rest isn't at all outrageous, though. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I ask everyone for proof if they make claims I consider extraordinary. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Flattie claimed 'perfect pitch' and I called her out, and she gave | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | adequate proof. On the other hand, neither 7 nor Rex/Debbie Ballard | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | ever once gave proof of their outlandish claims. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | >> But I do believe he has a Ph.D. He's still a lying tool who posts | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | >> completely idiotic stuff on his sham website. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > If he's also a "Software Engineer" (as that link claims), by looking | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > at his site I'd say he must not care much about the field at all. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Software Engineer isn't limited to web development, of course. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > Precisely the point. Egos are what they are. If he had a real PHD, | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > he'd be bragging to the four winds where he got it, and most likely post | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > a photo of his degree on his website. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > I'd love to see his cracker-box PHD certificate he claims he has. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | If any of you are betting men, I'd love to wager $20 that his PhD | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | doesn't exist. The guy was schooled by Snit for Christ's sake. No | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | offense to Snit at all but a PhD should have mopped the floor with him, | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | not just made him look all that much smarter. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | < snip > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/postgraduate-research/programmes/list/?k=medical%20biophysics | Aug 29 20:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.manchester.ac.uk | Postgraduate research programmes for entry in 2015 | The University of Manchester [ http://ur1.ca/nlop3 ] | Aug 29 20:12 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > "Your search returned no results." | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | > I don't know what he actually studied, but it seems scientific. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | He could have simply added his name there and not contributed to the | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | article in any way. We've all encountered lazy people who take credit | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | for our achievements. Does Roy Schestowitz strike you as _not_ being | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | that type of person? | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | >> "Your search returned no results." | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | >> I don't know what he actually studied, but it seems scientific. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > He could have simply added his name there and not contributed to the | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > article in any way. We've all encountered lazy people who take credit | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > for our achievements. Does Roy Schestowitz strike you as _not_ being | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | > that type of person? | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | I judge him and others based on how they present themselves - their ACTUAL | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | words and behavior. Roy is not reputable. He makes things up. He lies. It is | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | trivial to show examples... and if you do a search for my comments on his | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | site you can see where I call him out on many such things. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | To his credit he allows such comments on his site. I very much commend him | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | for that. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > Some people with PhD's make incredibly incorrect and ignorant claims. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > Some people with no formal education make insightful and wise claims. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > Education is a great thing... but it is not proof of being correct. Heck, I | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > have a Masters degree... you do not see me touting that as "evidence" my | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > views are correct. The EVIDENDE and LOGIC are what matters. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Most holders of PHDs are hoping to either make a lot of money, or fame. | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | But even I know that degrees don't make people smarter or wiser. Bill | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Gates is an excellent example as a Harvard dropout, yet he went on to | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | become a billionaire. | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 20:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/637672848979587072 | Aug 29 20:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Lot of hacked bots out there @schestowitz Winduhs 10 is running on 75 million PCs. http://t.co/A2igNe3Qj7 | Aug 29 20:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.forbes.com | Windows 10 Is Running On 75 Million PCs | Aug 29 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | So Micrisift says | Aug 29 20:30 |
| schestowitz | without showing data | Aug 29 20:30 |
| *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Aug 29 20:43 | |
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