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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791341 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791452 | Nov 08 01:26 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #indonesia never had any massacres because you're not allowed to talk about them http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/11/07/censorship-paradise.html #censorship #revisionism #deletionism | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.thejakartapost.com | Censorship in paradise | The Jakarta Post | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The mouthpiece of the #singapore regime - the #straitstimes - pretends that only other nations like #indonesia censor http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/arts/knowing-how-to-write-under-censorship | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.straitstimes.com | Singapore Writers Festival: Indonesia's Goenawan Mohamad on how to write under censorship, Arts News & Top Stories - The Straits Times | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791541 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791539 | Nov 08 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The mainland has never renounced the use of force to bring what it considers a breakaway province under its control" http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-taiwan-first-meeting-since-1949-2015-11?r=US&IR=T | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | China Taiwan first meeting since 1949 - Business Insider | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #taiwan - "China maintains it will eventually reunify the island, by force if necessary." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11981225/No-force-can-pull-us-apart-Chinas-Xi-says-in-historic-China-Taiwan-summit.html reunite=conquer (euphemism) | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.telegraph.co.uk | 'No force can pull us apart’: China’s Xi says in historic China-Taiwan summit - Telegraph | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/uZ3bgDKm7pg[1-25] | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Nobody in their right minds takes Chris Ahlstrom seriously. I'm sure | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | that he's a fun friend to have and that he livens things up at any party | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | but he's little more than a goof in here. As for 7, the guy's got | Nov 08 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | crackpot written all over him. He also looks like something "Doctor" | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Schestowitz gave birth to in his toilet bowl. | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/iSrSoANtDKk[1-25] | Nov 08 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks from that troll again, from Canada... | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | But Joseph "7" Michael told me that Appile and Micro$haft do these kinds | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | of things routinely and "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz told me that both | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | companies came to him and explicitly asked for his permission! | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/rZbnh_uSrmI[1-25] | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | We've _ALL_ proven that we know more about Linux than you do. You're a | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | fraud, you might as well be related to Schestowitz. | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 08 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:43 | |
| schestowitz | Oh, my oldtime personal stalker too: | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | >> In reality, snit is as bad or worse than that other idiot Roy Schestowitz | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | >> whose "proof" more often than not, refers back to his own comments. | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | >> | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | >> Roy uses the same tactic as snit in that he hopes people won't check and in | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | >> reality the only ones who really check are those directly involved in | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | >> snit's, or Roy's, full frontal assault. | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > I don't think it is possible to be any more of a loser than "Doctor" Roy | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > is though. Other than him, I have yet to meet a single holder of a PhD | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > who believed in posting pictures of himself over his own, | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > poorly-produced web sites. Not only that, but he seems to believe | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > himself to be attractive. It's fairly clear to me that the guy has a | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | > narcissistic personality disorder. | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:47 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/UDHkq5hU7eA/yH6pNvDbCwAJ | Nov 08 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:47 | |
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| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/lVsZd1SyHKA/GytQ1iv6CAAJ | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | "But don't believe Microsoft, "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz says it's a failure. " | Nov 08 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/o8yk0 ] | Nov 08 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/vv7jA0FA56U[1-25] | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | I know that it is hard for a German to grasp, but Snit and I are not the | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | same person. Meanwhile, you're just as much of a liar as 7 and "Doctor | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Delusional" Roy Schestowitz are. Should I assume that you are all the | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | same person? | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:48 |
| schestowitz | Says the guy who uses Windows: | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't hate it, but I do hate THEM. They're really making it look bad | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | with their lies but I think that the most damaging of them all are | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz and 7. Roy's repulsive site and subjective | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | articles do the operating system no favour when people bother to read | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | his commentary and 7's purposeful use of terms like "Appile" and | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | "Micro$haft" give readers the impression that they're reading something | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | posted by a 12 year-old rather than an individual who really wants to | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | raise awareness and interest in Linux. Add to that an association to | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | born losers like Chris Ahlstrom and Geoff "William Poaster" Fitton or | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | deranged psychopaths like Steve "Carroll" Petruzzellis and you're | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | discouraging _anyone_ and _everyone_ from even trying out the operating | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | system. | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:49 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/gpwBsPPnBVo/NUsZoPQvBwAJ | Nov 08 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/o8yk5 ] | Nov 08 01:49 | |
| schestowitz | let's see the reddit MS boosters now.. | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3rtqzi/more_information_emerges_about_the_microsoftred/ | Nov 08 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 503 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3rtqzi/more_information_emerges_about_the_microsoftred/ ) | Nov 08 01:50 | |
| schestowitz | "My question is, what does Red Hat have that Microsoft needs?" | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | "market share | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | "Presence in the cloud (vm/container) space. They're trying to regain money lost to the cloud." | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | systemd + .NET Framework. Won't that be such a great combination ? | Nov 08 01:50 |
| MinceR | assistance in killing gnu/linux | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | /ducks | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:50 |
| MinceR | oh, and as part of that, assistance in making uefi seem legitimate and acceptable | Nov 08 01:50 |
| schestowitz | this is getting scary | Nov 08 01:51 |
| schestowitz | systemd, uefi, now ms "standstill" on patents | Nov 08 01:51 |
| schestowitz | you know what happens after you stand still... | Nov 08 01:51 |
| schestowitz | it implies something is to happen later | Nov 08 01:51 |
| schestowitz | you don't sit still | Nov 08 01:51 |
| schestowitz | "Credibility with a developer demographic that Microsoft desperately needs to reconnect with." | Nov 08 01:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:52 |
| schestowitz | They are the goto Linux solution when things need to be supported solid and reliable and costs aren't the main concern. | Nov 08 01:52 |
| schestowitz | It is the #1 commercial Linux enterprise solution by far, and an endorsement from Red Hat probably validates Azure for Linux more than anything else could. | Nov 08 01:52 |
| schestowitz | This is probably not so much about any specific Red Hat technology that Microsoft needs to have on Azure, as it is about Red Hats market position and reputation. | Nov 08 01:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Oh, look... "harlows_monkeys " | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | The mono boosters | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | and MS apologist | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | AS WE noted in our previous coverage, Red Hat does not want anyone to speak about — let alone know — the patent aspects of its deal with Microsoft. | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | If Red Hat doesn't want anyone to know about it, why did they include it in the FAQ on redhat.com? | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Techrights, AKA Boycott Novell, is drivel. | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah I got my pitchfork out and everything when I read that. Read the rest of the article and realized there wasn't really any "more information" here. Just a guy who doesn't like the deal. OK. Duly noted, I guess." | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | From the faq: | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | The heart of the arrangement is a patent standstill that provides that neither company will pursue a patent lawsuit or claim against the other or its customers, while we are partnering. | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | " while we are partnering." | Nov 08 01:53 |
| MinceR | redrat think everyone is an idiot and they seem to be mostly right | Nov 08 01:53 |
| schestowitz | So if Red Hat wants out, then it can get sued | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | This is the same shit Novell SUSE tried years ago, a deal with Microsoft where they are protected from Microsoft patent extortion while the rest of the Linux world is not. | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Just like with SUSE, Red Hat is now fragmenting the Linux ecosystem, and despite their doublespeak in their faq, they are in practice validating Microsoft's patent claims by actually making a patent deal. | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | This is a great help for Microsoft when it comes to enforcing their patent rent seeking scheme against other Linux vendors, 'look, Linux giant Red Hat made the deal, of course you have to as well, pay up' | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat does a ton of great stuff for Linux, but this was a move that benefited only themselves and Microsoft, while placing the rest of the Linux ecosystem at a disadvantage. | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | "Hm, voting patterns suggest we do have quite the fanbase of pro-Red Hat users here." | Nov 08 01:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:55 |
| schestowitz | This deal doesn't really do anything in the bigger scope of the MS/Linux patent landscape as I see it, they merely promise not to sue each other including customers. | Nov 08 01:55 |
| schestowitz | There is no acknowledgment or "licensing" of patents. This is not a cross licensing agreement, which would be an acknowledgment of patent value, it is a cease fire, with a hint to the fact that invalid patents can also be used in a patent war. | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Although this doesn't exactly help anyone else, it at least doesn't harm them like the license agreements of other companies have done, by forming a precedence for the "validity" of Microsofts patent claims. | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | This is probably not what Microsoft wished for, as it doesn't seem to help their patent strategy, but they must have deemed it good enough to not be significantly harmful to that strategy either. | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | We could of course have wished for something that protected Linux in general, but that's unlikely to happen anytime soon, unless MS lose patent cases, which is unlikely, because they know that could easily happen, which is almost certainly why their claims never go to court. | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Edit: | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Link to Red Hat FAQ on the agreement: | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | https://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/faq-red-hat-and-microsoft-partnership | Nov 08 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | FAQ: Red Hat and Microsoft Partnership | Red Hat | Nov 08 01:56 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: well, wait for Jan to come back to me, if he does... | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | They're supposed to at least consider reelaseing more info | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | it's with Rob Tiller and Carlo Piana, I spoke to both before. Tiller is arrogant, IMHO, Piana is nice | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | he had worked for Samba in Europe; | Nov 08 01:56 |
| schestowitz | if Red Hat doesn't release any new info, my stance on this won't change | Nov 08 01:57 |
| schestowitz | in fact, if they still keep quiet about it, I'll assume they have something to hide | Nov 08 01:57 |
| MinceR | ic | Nov 08 01:57 |
| MinceR | this is just icing on what they're doing with cancerd anyway | Nov 08 02:01 |
| MinceR | 030737 < TweetSchestowitz> @schestowitz It is not clear if #redhat #patent "standstill" | Nov 08 02:10 |
| MinceR | 030738 < TweetSchestowitz> (implies temporary) with #microsoft can be | Nov 08 02:10 |
| MinceR | 030738 < TweetSchestowitz> extended to all (as per GPLv2/3) | Nov 08 02:10 |
| MinceR | obviously not | Nov 08 02:10 |
| MinceR | "neither company will pursue a patent lawsuit or claim against the other or its customers" | Nov 08 02:10 |
| MinceR | see also, the novell deal | Nov 08 02:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663175120152862721 https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663175250079797249 | Nov 08 02:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Red Rat and Microshaft: A match made in heaven... Indeed, Red Rat is doing what M$ once did: create a standard an lock out | Nov 08 02:16 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Competition, so, as it is my way or no way at all. | Nov 08 02:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663177532179652608 | Nov 08 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Man, they became the open source MS, with all their forced vision and their goals, at the expense of communities and people. | Nov 08 02:17 | |
| schestowitz | I am trying to get them to publish the details of the deal, esp. the patents. @carlopiana and @robtiller need convincing. | Nov 08 02:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ircolle/status/663178005666074624 | Nov 08 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ircolle: @schestowitz - what would that look like? | Nov 08 02:18 | |
| schestowitz | best never to apply for such patents in the first place, or to SELL them to OIN | Nov 08 02:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663179190208983040 | Nov 08 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Man, RH is a scam, Muller was right when called them parasites. They do as MS does: Have strong PR agencies, and, that's it. | Nov 08 02:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adamjsims/status/663181406739140608 | Nov 08 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@adamjsims: @schestowitz @agente_smithe #centos | Nov 08 02:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663182959130841088 | Nov 08 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz is Piana in RH's pockets ??? | Nov 08 02:39 | |
| schestowitz | In this case/negotiation, yes | Nov 08 02:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/663185279193382912 | Nov 08 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz I wonder how the OpenJDK teams at RHAT feel? https://t.co/MhqjNXWjbJ Anti-Java FUD and .Net Mono trojan has paid off for M$ | Nov 08 02:54 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jsnover: Red Hat and Microsoft making .NET on Linux work for Enterprises https://t.co/S62DDU4FwH | Nov 08 02:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663185659746787328 | Nov 08 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz I thought he worked in a law firm. | Nov 08 02:54 | |
| schestowitz | But clients can be companies and someone from Red Hat told me he worked on the text | Nov 08 02:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 02:55 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6791626 | Nov 08 02:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I am sad to accept this, but #redhat is gradually becoming more of a threat to #gnu #linux - money comes first; shareholders, not community | Nov 08 02:59 | |
| schestowitz | 'slow eh?" | Nov 08 02:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663188807274098688 | Nov 08 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz For EU regulators, to let them pass the deal ? | Nov 08 03:00 | |
| schestowitz | No, the whole patent thing, I guess, and this Azure thing as a whole | Nov 08 03:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788387 | Nov 08 03:07 |
| schestowitz | "Well, the film is not flattering, at least not as I saw it." | Nov 08 03:07 |
| schestowitz | Somehow I find this hard to believe | Nov 08 03:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788239 | Nov 08 03:08 |
| schestowitz | "Using Tor now, but not VPN." | Nov 08 03:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 08 03:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you provide spies with accurate information, you may be in trouble. Provide junk/fake data, you're in trouble too. So deny collection. | Nov 08 03:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6789378 | Nov 08 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This is what "Partner Technology Advisor at Microsoft" wrote: https://twitter.com/GaborFari/status/656468860334415872 Was he drunk at the time? http://techrights.org/2015/10/01/microsoft-loves-linux-brainwash/ | Nov 08 03:09 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GaborFari: THIS is the #NewMicrosoft. Microsoft <3 Linux! When the CTO of @Azure wears the T-shirt, you know it's serious! https://t.co/vGcVrqGsZf | Nov 08 03:09 | |
| schestowitz | "You have to see what people and companies do for money." | Nov 08 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported | Techrights | Nov 08 03:09 | |
| schestowitz | > == | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/online/facebook-deletes-and-blocks-all-links-to-small-social-media-site-tsuco-a6725161.html | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
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| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/why-are-student-union-officials-censoring-criticism-of-islamic-state/ | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Facebook deletes and blocks all links to small social media site Tsu.co | Online | News | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/o8yxy ] | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blogs.new.spectator.co.uk | Why are student-union officials censoring criticism of Islamic State? - Spectator Blogs | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.linuxlock.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-past-halfway-point-we-could-use.html | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > == | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxlock.blogspot.com | The Blog of Helios: We're past The Halfway Point - We Could Use Your Help | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/06/native-american-students-left-behind | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > == | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > "The leaked text is not a law proposal, but just a summary of the | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.usnews.com | Native American Students Left Behind - US News | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | > Commission’s plans for next year." | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > https://juliareda.eu/2015/11/ancillary-copyright-2-0-the-european-commission-is-preparing-a-frontal-attack-on-the-hyperlink/ | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > - | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-juliareda.eu | Julia Reda – Ancillary Copyright 2.0: The European Commission is preparing a frontal attack on the hyperlink | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | > http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/kat-exclusive-eu-commission-due-to.html | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > == | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: KAT-EXCLUSIVE: EU Commission due to issue legislative proposal on content portability in spring 2016, wants to make some exceptions mandatory, and dreams of full copyright harmonisation | Nov 08 03:38 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/know-indonesias-devastating-fires/ | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:38 |
| schestowitz | > annexing PNG again? .id is showing the very worst of imperialism | Nov 08 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pbs.org | What you should know about Indonesia's devastating fires | Nov 08 03:39 | |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:39 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/nov/07/setting-a-country-alight-indonesias-devastating-forest-fires-are-manmade | Nov 08 03:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:39 |
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| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Setting a country alight: Indonesia's devastating forest fires are manmade | Global Development Professionals Network | The Guardian | Nov 08 03:39 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/nov/07/setting-a-country-alight-indonesias-devastating-forest-fires-are-manmade | Nov 08 03:39 |
| schestowitz | Incidentally, I already saw many of the links above, so my feeds must be quite well adjusted ;-) | Nov 08 03:39 |
| schestowitz | There is still a double link posted once in a few days, as above? | Nov 08 03:39 |
| schestowitz | Are the articles redefining borders? I don't know what "annexing PNG again? .id is showing the very worst of imperialism" is about... | Nov 08 03:39 |
| schestowitz | The neighbouring countries too are/were colonies (of the US, French, Dutch and British, prior to that Spaniards too)... depending how how they split their empires.... I'm still learning the history of it all.... | Nov 08 03:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/663300339026812928 | Nov 08 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Euh what is the issue here? You know that before this, one hit on these keys triggered the reboot | Nov 08 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | CTRL+ALT+backspace was common to kill X, delete is nowadays associated with Windows | Nov 08 11:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/663310851219279872 | Nov 08 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz /me looks at /etc/inittab: # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now | Nov 08 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/663311793901707264 | Nov 08 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz https://t.co/icfH1m8DNd | Nov 08 11:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> anonscm.debian.org | collab-maint/sysvinit - sysvinit | Nov 08 11:08 | |
| schestowitz | Interesting, thanks | Nov 08 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/know-indonesias-devastating-fires/ | Nov 08 11:09 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> annexing PNG again? .id is showing the very worst of imperialism | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> - | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/nov/07/setting-a-country-alight-indonesias-devastating-forest-fires-are-manmade | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> - | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/nov/07/setting-a-country-alight-indonesias-devastating-forest-fires-are-manmade | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >> > Incidentally, I already saw many of the links above, so my feeds must be | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >> > quite well adjusted ;-) | Nov 08 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Setting a country alight: Indonesia's devastating forest fires are manmade | Global Development Professionals Network | The Guardian | Nov 08 11:10 | |
| schestowitz | > Ok. Should I keep sending manually? | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | In real time over IRC might be best and fastest, if it's feasible... | Nov 08 11:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/663313309442170880 | Nov 08 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @jsnover must be a bug in my keyboard, along with the Windows-Key that I didn't ask for. @schestowitz | Nov 08 13:23 | |
| MinceR | i really liked this one | Nov 08 13:23 |
| schestowitz | URGENT: domain expired | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | There was no automatic renewal (nor notification) of boycottnovell.com, which I manage through Catalyst2, expiring. There are now tens of thousands orphaned links in my site. This is an urgent matter. I need the domain to be restored ASAP, and work as before (it links to a nameserver other than catalyst2's). | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Regards, | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Roy | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6792357 | Nov 08 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mass #surveillance is used by people in Power to more effectively classify people based on their threat to Power, then smear/blackmail them | Nov 08 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | "people in Power are a threat to us all - as they have all they do hidden by official secrets etc !" | Nov 08 14:41 |
| schestowitz | "consequently we the people are a threat to their power control system of war" | Nov 08 14:42 |
| schestowitz | update re boycottnovell domain: " I'm just looking into that now. I will let you know ASAP." | Nov 08 14:50 |
| schestowitz | "I need it back online ASAP. A lot of traffic is being lost. I will make the payment for sure - not sure why I wasn't sent a reminder about expiry." | Nov 08 14:51 |
| schestowitz | -me | Nov 08 14:51 |
| schestowitz | "I see that the domain has just been re-registered. Does it need (re)configuring from your end, or need I wait for DNS servers to be updated before service it restored?" | Nov 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz | -me | Nov 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz | " I have just renewed this domain for you. I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. I'm just looking into it now to see what has happen." | Nov 08 15:02 |
| schestowitz | It needs to have | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Name Server:NS1.COPILOTCO.COM | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Name Server:NS2.COPILOTCO.COM | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | looks like it's fixed now | Nov 08 15:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | > It appears there was an issue with our billing system where your domain | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | > has been removed in error. Again I do apologize. | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | me: | Nov 08 15:09 |
| schestowitz | That's OK. Do we know how long the domain was down for? I noticed by sheer coincidence, not sure how long it was expired for... | Nov 08 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Months ago we lost access to mail and our site was down because the billing system was silently changed and schestowitz.com was not notified and also led to deactivation. | Nov 08 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/663404789057912832 | Nov 08 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz #KDE was my first too, because of #Mandrake and later #SUSE. I've used #GNOME a few good years after, now I'm on #Cinnamon =) | Nov 08 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | [16:39] <zoobab_> pong | Nov 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | [16:40] <zoobab_> any chance for you to come to fosdem? | Nov 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | I never go to such events I'm afraid... | Nov 08 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788387 | Nov 09 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Children or grown ups? #apple fans... http://www.cultofmac.com/395703/custom-lego-minifigs-put-jobs-woz-and-cook-on-your-desk/ | Nov 09 18:00 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cultofmac.com | Custom Lego minifigs put Jobs, Woz, and Cook on your desk | Cult of Mac | Nov 09 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Perhaps my view is more a reflection of my personal values. If someone is portrayed as intelligent, visionary, and determined, yet is unkind and unconcerned about how he mistreats those closest to him, my interpretation is that this portrayal is unflattering." | Nov 09 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794463 | Nov 09 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA has funneled to the various brigades of the Free Syrian Army... TOW anti-tank missiles." http://uk.businessinsider.com/cia-vetted-syrian-rebels-fighting-assad-2015-10?r=US&IR=T can shoot planes too | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | CIA-vetted Syrian rebels fighting Assad - Business Insider | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "It’s been going on for four years." | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Can go on longer, see Vietnam | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794459 | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "US Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard is correct, in my view." | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794444 | Nov 09 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Rise of America’s Secret Government: The Deadly Legacy of Ex-CIA Director Allen Dulles http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/rise-americas-secret-government-deadly-legacy-ex-cia-director-allen-dulles shadow decision-making | Nov 09 18:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.alternet.org | The Rise of America’s Secret Government: The Deadly Legacy of Ex-CIA Director Allen Dulles | Alternet | Nov 09 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "A secret US government with shadow decision-making would explain a lot of actions that are otherwise difficult to understand." | Nov 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Some people profit from this but are never named | Nov 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794394 | Nov 09 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. airstrike on Afghanistan Doctors Without Borders hospital looks more and more like a ‘kill mission’ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-doctors-borders-airstrike-kill-mission-article-1.2425113?cid=bitly #warcrime | Nov 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | "They must have known something that the US, or perhaps lower levels of the military, wanted to hide. Perhaps the soldiers hate MSF for treating all wounded, including Taliban. It’s good to see this in the American mainstream media." | Nov 09 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.nydailynews.com | King: Doctors Without Borders airstrike a 'kill mission' - NY Daily News | Nov 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | …I am making an assumption that they treat all wounded, as they should, as long as they are unarmed." | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Would be a lot better to trial US soldiers for war crimes or at least impose economic sanctions to the US. I fail to see why it’s OK for Russia but the US is the criminal exception." | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | @Cronos: | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | To start with IT: No more x86-CPUs (Intel, AMD) for anybody. No new network equipment (Cisco, Linksys), only lenove-Hardware (or custom-built) for the rest of the world. Next: Google-Shutdown, facebook-Shutdown, twitter-Shutdown. There’s - apart from democracy, freedom and Boeing-Airplanes - not much more that the US actually exports (maybe some overpriced patented medication) and which could be sanctioned. But it affects a whole lot of | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | people, including the options to (re)start the “arabic spring”, however successful it was. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | With Russia… Well, it’s only natural gas most of western europe uses which might no longer be supplied… | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Other direction of flow of goods: The chinese would be dead stupid to cut their cash-cow which has so willingly exported almost entire production to China. Likewise the rest of the world. Europe has already suffered from its sanctions against Russia by dropping income from exporting goods to Russia. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | The world has evolved beyond the point where any major country can be punished by economic sanctions without also harming the sanctioners. And all major countries know this perfectly well. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Economic sanctions are mainly to punish the other party, not oneself, that’s why Europe not only did not stop buying Russian gas, demands Russia to keep selling it. It’s the same for the US and Russian rockets that supply the ISS. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | And because the US did not actually produce physical goods is that economic sanctions would be more effective. What do you thing Europeans would prefer, no Russian gas or no Facebook? Most people in countries like mine would say “what’s wrong in giving the US our ass? I want Facebook back!”, but that very same people would find a substitute one month later and in six months forget Facebook ever existed. It’s the same for Google | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | and other services, but it’s not the same Banana Republic losing Facebook than the US seeing Facebook’s billions of value going to the void. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | US Patents: that’s an excellent example of something that can be easily banned with almost no consequences for the country banning them. Can you imagine the damage to US economy if patents stopped to be honored? | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Some technology like processors would be hurtful but there are other options, it’s not like the US produced the only processors available in the world. Windows? I can bet the US government would prefer to give it for free rather than losing the power and information gathering over its users. Cutting the communications cables? Communications are double sided, and that would mean the practical end of the NSA, they would only spy upon US | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | people that is still good but not enough. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | The US economy relies heavily on exports, and exports services unlike China that exports actual physical goods. That’s why the US has resorted to punish China “prosecuting” top Chinese army officials that never will be caught by the US. China is one of the few countries with an economy big enough to not rely on exports. It would be fun to see how the US tries to impose economic sanctions on China. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Saying the wounded were Taliban may be clever 'damage control' spin from the aggressor, take only with a barrel of salt.... the "worthy victims" pattern of spin or the "they like death" (or "have no value for life") spin... this is centuries old FUD, not decades old | Nov 09 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fschestowitz%2Fstatus%2F662777903818612737%3Fcn%3DcmVwbHk%253D%26refsrc%3Demail&t=1&cn=cmVwbHk%3D&sig=f50a550f4c6f03d0a01efb55c8331679cbe6f7ef&iid=2051f7dd92094fa0aa1511f26ec36fb7&uid=26603208&nid=27+1287 | Nov 09 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663543821054181376 | Nov 09 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-twitter.com | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662777903818612737?cn=cmVwbHk%3D&refsrc=email | Nov 09 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: #CBS just compared me with a spree shooter. On grounds even CIA said were ridiculous - in 2013! Old people TV, man. https://t.co/B7u8zxgEgM | Nov 09 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: #CBS just compared me with a spree shooter. On grounds even CIA said were ridiculous - in 2013! Old people TV, man. https://t.co/B7u8zxgEgM | Nov 09 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663780379397128192 | Nov 09 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: In historic decision, US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. Victory! https://t.co/OtBGc3aVuU https://t.co/7thZIGXbyI | Nov 09 18:18 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: In historic decision, US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. Victory! https://t.co/OtBGc3aVuU https://t.co/7thZIGXbyI | Nov 09 18:19 | |
| schestowitz | Hi Paul, | Nov 09 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I have just tested this and it works well. I accessed dev over SSH just to ensure it works for me. | Nov 09 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Was it hard to set up? Well, yes, but proprietary software on BSD or GNU/Linux is typically like this. It's an afterthought for the developers. I have been reading recently (4 articles in the past month) about Citrix trying to improve their software for FOSS users, even at the GUI lever, so there's hope... | Nov 09 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Just made some advice internally: | Nov 09 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I like xxxx's suggestion, which basically re-factors and restructures (under the surface) the whole Wiki. It's probably worth the effort given that a new Wiki user (employee) can get lost in the Wiki, despite the small audience of the Wiki (maybe a dozen people). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I never used foswiki for a site of my own, as I typically use mediawiki, which the company used before the conversion (it predates me joining the company nearly 5 years ago). foswiki 'fragments' itself based on "Webs" - a concept which mediawiki does not have, excepting maybe subdomains (like, for different languages). In mediawiki tags can be used to lump together related pages in one single page where topics are alphabetically sorted. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For some types of documentation (e.g. dictionaries/encyclopaedias/staff directories), this is incredible handy! A page source would be preceded by some list of categories that describe it and it would then automatically be indexed under some parent page. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | What does this mean to our company? | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Well, when we access a "Web" for a particular company we then have a virtual hierarchy of pages underneath it, and these are partly based on a general template. Sometimes it's not so easy (especially for someone not familiar with the lateral scope of the Wiki) where to find some particular pages, and having multiple levels of hierarchy does not necessarily help. Moreover, quite often I struggle in using the search facility, as results are | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | presented from all the different Webs, separated by headings that correspond to each Web. It's not so easy to 'localise' the search or perform more complicated queries (RT used to make search too awkward to use if "advanced"). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Currently, what we have for each client is a list of passwords (in a table), plus some instructions. But we also have something similar in lastpass. As long as one is removed (usually from the Wiki), there is no risk of things going out of sync, due to them existing in multiple places. Speaking of lastpass, after their recent takeover, I am frankly uncertain about its future and which direction it'll go. I never trusted lastpass to begin | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | with, having read about Internet security and privacy for a very long time (including NDAs and canaries). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Andrew advocates refactoring as means for organising the information and making it importable. This can complicate the editing process for people who are not so apt at technical editing with cross-referencing or for people who never used Wikis before. Some of our staff is more technical than others, but we share the same tools. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I don't think a universal format for guides can be agreed on because different clients have different processes and some are purely support, whereas others are more focused on a set of technical steps to take. Speaking about my own examples/assigned tasks, | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | the ombudsman does not have its own ticketing system, unlike some others. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Looking afresh at all this (as a new arrival), one needs to know the type of client; the colours on Webs are familiar to some, even without a legend/glossary/colour guide. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I think there's a risk that if we restructure the pages too much, then it can confuse those of us who got accustomed to them (in their current form). Making them welcoming to new arrivals can therefore come at the expense of others who, despite the current format not being immaculate, know their way around and can 'hack' their way into the needed/required information. Muscle memory and all that malarkey... | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I currently have a lot of material (screenshots, text) about clients, but just sticking it somewhere at the front page of a Web under a new hyperlink/anchor might not help ensure people will: | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 1. know that it exists | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 2. be able to find it. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | The 'dream' system would obviously be tidy, easy to maintain, but not with a steep learning curve. We have: | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 1. Contacts | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 2. Passwords | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 3. HowTos | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 4. Ticketing-related/contact-related (e.g. xxxx) HowTos | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 5. Lists of machines/assets, sometimes linked to (2) above. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 6. SLAs and other customer-specific information | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (1) we might want to think about installing a web-based application, like timetracker, which is dedicated to storing and updating contacts (not just electronic mail). This can be secured by a firewall. Import/export of contacts would be a plus. Sometimes it's convenient to just let the mail client auto-complete rather than copy from a Wiki; it also reduces changes of embarrassing errors (import/export can ensure this remains up to | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | date). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (2) we currently use lastpass. There are some actively-maintained FOSS alternatives to lastpass (a dozen of articles have been published about this since the takeover). Some can be locally managed and hosted, which guards from snooping by third parties on 'the cloud' (meaning, other people's servers). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (3), a method of making it easier to find the appropriate HowTos needed. I can't think of anything other than filter-based searches, like those which filter a Q&A database. F.U. used to manage documentation like this with Confluence (locally installed). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (4) it should be similar to (3), plus some way of knowing (for newcomers) where and how (and who for) to update tickets. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | (5) seems like a combination of (2) and (3) | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | (6) is, to some degree, already doable in OTRS. I don't know how many of us actually access the SLA pages in the Wiki... as in the 24/7 team we typically respond and act as soon as possible anyway; it's the obligation to resolve/escalate within some predefined time period that matters a lot here. OTRS isn't necessarily kept aligned with what's on the Wiki, but then again, these agreements don't change much (if at all) over time.. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I think we should consider adding some software to our toolset (like we did with timetracker to avoid passing E-mail attachments around) and maybe phasing out some old methods which are either slow to use, too cumbersome for a new employee, or not secure (or several of the above at once). The move from RT to OTRS, by the way, was a big leap forward, IMHO. Our Wiki has been modernised with software updates, but some things that we manage | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | through the Wiki can be 'outsourced' to specialised tools, /a la/ (1) above. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For the time being I will drop my new documentation into suitable place in the Wiki. | Nov 09 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6786357 | Nov 10 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #twitter changing a star into a heart means they increasingly try to mimic #facebook when it comes to everything, #surveillance included. | Nov 10 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Hmm. I have to admit there are fb features I’d like to see here." | Nov 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | "The topic Twitter + surveillance would interest me" | Nov 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788350 | Nov 10 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook already knows everything about you and planted cookies everywhere, so you don't have to specify name https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/facebooks-new-name-policy-changes-are-progress-not-perfection | Nov 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "I give a fuck about that, No Facebook anymore …" | Nov 10 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.eff.org | Facebook's New Name Policy Changes are Progress, Not Perfection | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/o8o60 ] | Nov 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Now we can help others abandon it... | Nov 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6792364 | Nov 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Size doesn’t matter." | Nov 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Says a sociopath ;-p | Nov 10 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I never lie" say only sociopaths. Everybody lied some time, somewhere (>white lies< at the very least). Counter-productive to state so. | Nov 10 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794459 | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "agree. so does obama, in that he doesn’t even try to find a valid excuse." | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794463 | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | joe, this is a long read if you go back to the many other links, but it strongly argues that the syria war was triggered by our favorite empire. | Nov 10 18:15 |
| schestowitz | http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-uprising-against-assad-was-engineered-in-washington/ | Nov 10 18:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA has funneled to the various brigades of the Free Syrian Army... TOW anti-tank missiles." http://uk.businessinsider.com/cia-vetted-syrian-rebels-fighting-assad-2015-10?r=US&IR=T can shoot planes too | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | CIA-vetted Syrian rebels fighting Assad - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/o93t9 ] | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rinf.com | The Uprising Against Assad Was Engineered in Washington [ http://ur1.ca/o9aap ] | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6784521 | Nov 10 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ed @snowden put out there #gchq documents to document crime, whereupon GCHQ was found guilty in #uk but rather than jail, Tories legalise it | Nov 10 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | "A lot - it’s run by two journalist/editors dedicated to highlighting the propaganda and ignorance of the so-called left-wing media in the UK, namely the Guardian, BBC and the Independent. They take the position that the right-wing media’s threat is obvious and easily understood. But the supposed left-wing media is much more insidious and hypocritical in the service of neo-liberalism and the security state. Many of the members are | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | journalists and former journalists. It’s a great link aggregator for stories that tell a fuller story about what’s happening in the world. Also, there are quite a few members who should really be enticed onto diaspora but haven’t taken the plunge! Cross-fertilization between our various silos of resistance is ever-more essential these days I think." | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | diaspora is a good place for sharing and absorbing ideas, not for mass distribution of information.... we need to try to grow this movement. | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6798620 | Nov 10 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663781514535174144 | Nov 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | "The meaning of privacy is plain to almost everyone, so why did there need to be a judge’s ruling on this issue, and more importantly, who neglected to pay off the judge? ;-)" | Nov 10 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: Court affirmed 4th Amendment protections against NSA's mass surveillance, defending "the right to be left alone." https://t.co/JSgf3vpEYb | Nov 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Probably to “regain trust,” Ted. No one is going to use US services while the US government is acting so wrongly. It does not matter, people should never again trust the services that betrayed them and seek to host their own solutions. | Nov 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I hope "cloud" will go away.. | Nov 10 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | [18:20] <exbibytes> Dr. Schestowitz, I have a question, if you don't mind: This patent deal, what exactly does it mean? Is it that Red Hat is "immune" to litigation from Microsoft, and vice-versa, or is there more to it than just "immunity?" | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <schestowitz> It's not even permanent | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <exbibytes> What I mean is, Microsoft now carries Red Hat as the "preferred" GNU/Linux distribution.. | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <schestowitz> It's not clear what it means, I asked people in Red Hat who will speak to their CEO and lawyers | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <exbibytes> Oh.. | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <schestowitz> I want to see the legal texts | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <schestowitz> not some lousy short FAQ | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <exbibytes> Thanks Sir, | Nov 10 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | "Maybe JoinDiaspora is, but there are 90 some other pods out there with <100 users on them that have uptime >99%." | Nov 10 19:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6800130 | Nov 10 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I made this infographic to try to convince my Facebook friends to join #diaspora. Do any Adobe #Illustrator wizards out there have any suggestions? | Nov 10 19:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by rovingrichard@therealtalk.org: https://therealtalk.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_602730127241489db4a3.png | Nov 10 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36012/ | Nov 10 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Walking in a Minefield: Microsoft and Red Hat announce cloud partnership, show .NET some love | Nov 10 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "At Red Hat, I quickly realized I was leading a company driven by something other than the profit motive" | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Now, doesn't that statement prove Jim's integrity and wisdom? | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Heck, I'm convinced. ;) | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35965/ | Nov 10 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Poettering said...: systemd 225 Adds 'su' Replacement, Saving of Private-Zone DHCP Options | Nov 10 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Busybox's choice is irrelevant in this discussion as they are not a full fat general purpose distro but rather a tiny minimalistic distro with a very narrow focus, so for them doing without systemd is far easier than for a normal distro. " | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-vs-the-internet-security-pros/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Nov 10 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.zdnet.com | Linus Torvalds vs. the internet security pros | ZDNet | Nov 10 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | " The Washington Post feature story, Net of Insecurity: The kernel of the argument, opens "Fast, flexible and free, Linux is taking over the online world. But there is growing unease about security weaknesses."" | Nov 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Making the illusion that Linxu doesn't want secuierty | Nov 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft does?! | Nov 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Matthew Garrett's Blog: "It's not FUD and the state of security in the kernel is currently far short of where it should be." | Nov 10 19:28 |
| schestowitz | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38158.html | Nov 10 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Why improving kernel security is important | Nov 10 19:28 | |
| MinceR | why is he still whining? he already made his fork | Nov 10 19:36 |
| MinceR | he can probably get redcrap to adopt it and start forcing it on everyone | Nov 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "It doesn't look like KDBUS will be ready for merging into the mainline Linux kernel" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDBUS-Back-To-Design | Nov 10 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | KDBUS Is Indeed Going Back To The Drawing Board - Phoronix | Nov 10 19:51 | |
| MinceR | i'm sure larabel is sad about that | Nov 10 19:52 |
| MinceR | he couldn't wait for the windowsification of the kernel | Nov 10 19:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/664168056797663232 | Nov 10 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Already? :D | Nov 10 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, he's seemingly all fine with systemd | Nov 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | based on all of his articles, which I follow individually | Nov 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | every small thing regarding systemd he covers | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | giving LP a platform since the PA days.. | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | I think it's evident that Larabel also has a hardon for anything German | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6798475 | Nov 10 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wow, reprieve comes even from #gop then... https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663780379397128192 #nsa | Nov 10 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: In historic decision, US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. Victory! https://t.co/OtBGc3aVuU https://t.co/7thZIGXbyI | Nov 10 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | "I was with Snowden until I saw he in Russia!I sayed WTF! His job was not about freedom! If was about freedom he never left america ! The people sure would stand with him. But no, he was with military secrets and was why he go away." | Nov 10 20:25 |
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| r_schestowitz | this man and another from Red Hat look at me in linkedin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Eischmann | Nov 11 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fedoraproject.org | User:Eischmann - FedoraProject | Nov 11 00:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.eischmann.cz/index.php?page=galerie | Nov 11 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eischmann.cz | Ji Eischmann - Galerie | Nov 11 00:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.opera.com/whereismyopera | Nov 11 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.opera.com | My Opera is now closed - Opera | Nov 11 00:18 | |
| r_schestowitz | "My Opera closed on March 3, 2014" | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | WTF? | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | 'The cloud' | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | just like this it vanished one day... | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 00:20 |
| r_schestowitz | "Remember Linspire? They pulled the same "deal" with them." | Nov 11 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux [ http://ur1.ca/o9bbj ] | Nov 11 00:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I keep reading about how much MS <3 Linux. Meanwhile I keep see them trying to stab the penguin to death." | Nov 11 00:20 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Red Hat staff should pay attention to today’s (just announced by Microsoft) patent blackmail deal. When Red Hat staff (salaried engineers for the most part) claim that the deal with Microsoft is a “win” they delude themselves in the same way SUSE staff did at the time of the Novell-Microsoft deal. According to this article: “As for the Red Hat partnership that Microsoft has struck, it looks far reaching. The partnership | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | calls for a Red Hat engineering team to move to Redmond to provide joint technical support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux workloads running in the Microsoft Azure public cloud and on its hybrid cloud offerings.” | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Oh, no, the horror! Wait, what am I supposed to be upset about? Why is RHEL on Azure having a dedicated support team a bad thing? I surely must be missing something here. | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Maybe somebody can provide some evidence of why the Microsoft-Novell deal was so bad. It's been many years since that was adopted, and I'm not aware of one tangible negative consequence. Even the sale of Novell patents, which was not the original deal, has provisions by the US DOJ and German authorities that explicitly recognize that the patents are subject to the GPL. | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | Since Red Hat is so secretive about it, who knows? We contacted the lawyers who were involved in making the agreement on patents (Carlo Piana and Rob Tiller), but still no response. It has been days now. | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I guess in the absence of knowledge, it's only responsible to suppose the worst. Don't get me wrong -- it would be fine to do that if there was consistent prior history. However, these patent agreements, despite outpourings of huge amounts of vitriol among enthusiasts, haven't produced any real problems. | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | This guy has absolutely asinine expectations of transparency in these arrangements. That's not how business deals ever happen, and the mere lack of unreasonable transparency does not indicate impropriety. | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | "tl;dr nothing to see here. MS licensing out patents it owns to other companies. Yes, there is a such thing as non-free software in Linux." | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | "what does Red Hat support in Azure have to do with patent litigation?" | Nov 11 00:27 |
| r_schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20060705015626/http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | tuxmachines.org | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | before takeover http://web.archive.org/web/20131014215433/http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | tuxmachines.org | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | initial improvements http://web.archive.org/web/20140110040535/http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | another redesign http://web.archive.org/web/20140625230815/http://tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I really can't understand why people keep posting techrights articles. It's completely disreputable, ridiculously biased and barely rational in many instances." | Nov 11 00:37 |
| r_schestowitz | Meh | Nov 11 00:37 |
| r_schestowitz | didn't even point out any mistakes | Nov 11 00:37 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/more-100-new-canal-side-10423749 | Nov 11 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk | More than 100 new canal-side homes set to be approved for Ancoats - Manchester Evening News | Nov 11 00:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Part of the agreement specifically deals with patents and patent litigation between the two companies: | Nov 11 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux [ http://ur1.ca/o9bbj ] | Nov 11 00:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Red Hat and Microsoft have agreed to a limited patent arrangement in connection with the commercial partnership for the benefit of mutual customers. | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | The heart of the arrangement is a patent standstill that provides that neither company will pursue a patent lawsuit or claim against the other or its customers, while we are partnering. Neither company acknowledged the validity or enforceability of the other’s intellectual property; it is not a patent license or a covenant not to sue and no payment was made or will be made for intellectual property. | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | The partnership is between commercial companies related to their common customer offerings, spurred by customer demand. Both parties carefully designed for FOSS licensing compliance in building the arrangement and each party’s relationship to the FOSS community stands on its own." | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/faq-red-hat-and-microsoft-partnership (see section 4) | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | FAQ: Red Hat and Microsoft Partnership | Red Hat [ http://ur1.ca/o9bg3 ] | Nov 11 00:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | "Maybe somebody can provide some evidence of why the Microsoft-Novell deal was so bad. " | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I think you have to go back in time to understand why this was seen as a bad thing. When the Microsoft-Novell deal was signed Microsoft was loudly claiming that they would not only sue Linux OS companies, but their customers as well. The Microsoft-Novell deal, IIRC, specifically indemnified Novell customers, which was seen by many in the Linux community as effectively saying that Microsoft did have valid patent claims against Linux. | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | Red Hat's patent agreement appears to be very different from the Microsoft-Novel agreement. Red Hat & Microsoft are no longer pointing their missiles at each other. Neither company will acknowledge the validity of the patents that the other company has, and more importantly no payment was made for IP or IP protection. | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | "holy sensationalist headline, batman!" | Nov 11 00:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I believe the industry term is "yellow journalism." Even if you hate it they still win as long as you're talking about it." | Nov 11 01:12 |
| r_schestowitz | "Do you have a link to that? The only thing I'm finding is from when Microsoft sued them for calling their Linux distro "Lindows."" | Nov 11 01:14 |
| r_schestowitz | "Am I the only one who thinks Novell was actually trying to help Linux at the time? Also I think Red Hat handled it better as there was no patent royalties afaik" | Nov 11 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Not for Red Hat maybe | Nov 11 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | but opened the door to others | Nov 11 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | like Novell, but to a lesser degree | Nov 11 01:16 |
| MinceR | wow | Nov 11 01:17 |
| MinceR | >believes novell was trying to help "linux" | Nov 11 01:17 |
| MinceR | human stupidity never ceases to amaze me | Nov 11 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | "but..but... the circlejerk...' | Nov 11 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | "Almost clicked the link. Saw it was from techrights. Crisis narrowly averted." | Nov 11 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Not the Mono boosters and Microsoft boosters are arriving | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | hence the change of tone in the comments | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | in digg they were called "bury squad" | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | PR perhaps | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | if they're away/asleep or miss the thread all is OK | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | it's when directhex and chaps from Novell come that it becomes an anti-Roy circlejerk | Nov 11 01:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Like COLA/USENET | Nov 11 01:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/664254100796743680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/664254558756040704 https://twitter.com/padreadamo/status/664237059805155328 | Nov 11 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Kexi objects are the top-level entities of type Table, Query, Form, Report, Script or Macro." https://t.co/nPgEwUEEti #kde | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blogs.kde.org | Kexi 3 object icons | blogs.kde.org | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #KDE Ships #Plasma 5.4.3 https://t.co/RV1sPfqWOw release Available now in Wily Backports. https://t.co/ZjdRrmlDpe | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> dot.kde.org | KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.3, Bugfix Release for November | KDE.news | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> scarlettgatelyclark.com | Kubuntu: KDE 5.4.3 Bugfix release Available now for Wily in Kubuntu Backports. | Home of Scarlett Gately Clark | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@padreadamo: Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion https://t.co/mCePWNtZy1 via @Inoreader | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion | Techrights | Nov 11 01:37 | |
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| r_schestowitz | At least to me it seems like a win for RH. They get more customers with Azure and they get .Net free from doubts which they can ship with their product. Either nothing changes if one doesn't want Azure and .Net or one just gets more options | Nov 11 01:38 |
| r_schestowitz | All that MS gets it is ability to have supported RHEL on their cloud which is probably quite common request from their customers. | Nov 11 01:39 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 01:39 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux | Nov 11 01:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheCourtneyB84/status/664260640329043968 | Nov 11 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheCourtneyB84: @JeremyRecklein https://t.co/n8oQO6XQTe | Nov 11 01:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Chicago #police detained thousands of black Americans at interrogation facility http://t.co/zJ4e1NO8yZ #chicago #racism #torture #framing | Nov 11 01:58 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | and the .NET on RHEL (and every other Linux system) is FOSS, so I don't see the problem using it freedom wise. | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | The reason I don't like .NET personally is its use of PE, but other than that, there's really no technical problem with it. | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | I would like to see a asm.js and WebAssembly implementation of C#. | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | LOL, directhex | Nov 11 02:20 |
| r_schestowitz | he's there now with the bury squad | Nov 11 02:20 |
| r_schestowitz | "Especially when this is most surely related to Android offerings from Star Micronics where Samsung and others already set bad example of being ready to pay up" | Nov 11 02:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | When the Microsoft-Novell deal was signed Microsoft was loudly claiming that they would not only sue Linux OS companies, but their customers as well. | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | That's what people interpreted from the licensing deals, but there have never been any public communications, or more importantly court filings, that substantiate those fears. Anyways, that's not my point. My point is that, despite the vocal fears and doomsday predictions of many, those fears haven't been realized, and the deal is on the eve of expiring. I think that we, as the entire free software community, would be better served by | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | being cautious and restraining bombastic outcries until they are substantiated. We can be skeptical, but there's no reason to jump to code red from get-go. | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with your assessment of this Microsoft-Red Hat deal. | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | When the Microsoft-Novell deal was signed Microsoft was loudly claiming that they would not only sue Linux OS companies, but their customers as well. | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | That's what people interpreted from the licensing deals, but there have never been any public communications, or more importantly court filings, that substantiate those fears. Anyways, that's not my point. My point is that, despite the vocal fears and doomsday predictions of many, those fears haven't been realized, and the deal is on the eve of expiring. I think that we, as the entire free software community, would be better served by | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | being cautious and restraining bombastic outcries until they are substantiated. We can be skeptical, but there's no reason to jump to code red from get-go. | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with your assessment of this Microsoft-Red Hat deal. | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "Let's just back up and take a deep breathe, and stop fighting, so our users can use". | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Yeah. Those bastards /s | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "Haven't been there in a while. Is apple still on the verge of extinction?" | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | directhex and gang are these now | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | ad hominem-ing | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft too. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Only the Reverse Vampires and Saucer People are keeping them afloat. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | says " | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft too. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Only the Reverse Vampires and Saucer People are keeping them afloat. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | -directhex | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | he loves Microsoft too, I guess | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I wish more people understood this." | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Dammit..I wish I did,but it happened so long ago. It happened after the Lindows/Windows pissing contest,but I can't remember exactly when. Microsoft made the same "deal" with Android and suck money from every device sold,and SUSE, and of course,.Red Hat. | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Xandoris also cut a deal with Microsoft, if I remember correctly, and died soon after. No one has ever been willing to contest them in court. I suspect they will do this to Ubuntu next. | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft general counsel claims open source software, including Linux, violates 235 of the company's patents | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/2662507/operating-systems/microsoft-demands-royalties-for-open-source-software.html | Nov 11 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.infoworld.com | Microsoft demands royalties for open source software | InfoWorld | Nov 11 03:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | "Can someone explain like I'm five please? The article Just kept saying the word parents and I just couldn't press on. What were the parents for?" | Nov 11 03:17 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux | Nov 11 03:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Linspire (Lindows) died almost wholly and completely to arrogance coupled with extreme incompetence. I don't care for MS either, but they dug their own grave. Pricing shenanigans, a website based program delivery system replacing repositories (OH WOW AJAX!), grossly missed releases, and all kinds of other issuues. They put the gun to thier own head and and pulled the trigger. MS just made sure the bullet had enough powder." | Nov 11 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KanysLupin/status/664287353373130752 | Nov 11 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KanysLupin: @Ali_H_Soufan @schestowitz @navarrotells @glynco @IanWalthew @circleofinsight @BBCPanorama @barryeisler https://t.co/cS9tz8oqyS | Nov 11 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KanysLupin: "A Brief Domestic and Global Terror Timeline" https://t.co/TsXHQAAdw9 #NeverForget #MattDeHart and more. | Nov 11 03:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | "No, they really weren't, but the times and attitudes are so different today that the situations just aren't at all comparable." | Nov 11 03:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm curious about their argument but won't go to the site I'm sure it is horribly biased. | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | What's the argument? What are the counter points? Any good search terms to find more information? | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | No counter points | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | just personal attacks | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | What's the argument? | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | Redhat sucks because they took a patent agreement with Microsoft because Microsoft sued another company with said patents. | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 04:18 |
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| schestowitz | Patents, not parents. Microsoft claims that Linux infringes at least 235 of their patents. Microsoft never disclosed which of their patents or which software is involved. It could be the Linux kernel, X.org, LibrOffice, etc. We just don't know. | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Meanwhile Microsoft goes around and accosts Linux businesses for patent licencing deals, without disclosing what they truly infringe. At least that is the offical word on the street. So Microsoft is raking in a pretty sum on "licensed" Linux devices. The thing is that it seems to be based on unsubstantiated threats. | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Too bad nobody in the business world has had the balls to bring a RICO suit, as Microsoft's Linux patent licensing deals pretty much look like "What a nice Linux business you got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it. For a low fee per Linux device, we will "protect" you from us." | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | quoted from https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the threat just got removed | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | silent ban | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | well done, Reddit censorship | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | 33 comments, +33 votes | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | and they removed it, WTF? | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | "No, they really weren't, but the times and attitudes are so different today that the situations just aren't at all comparable." | Nov 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | "I'd rather not have any MS software in a distribution than see any Linux based company make deals with MS." | Nov 11 09:49 |
| schestowitz | "What? This isn't about MS software in any linux distro. It's about making sure the 2 OS's work well together, and support each other. This isn't about getting Microsoft Word and Cortana into Ubuntu, it's about making sure their server and cloud services run well together." | Nov 11 09:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/664347596136325120 | Nov 11 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz you made a mistake in your last Mozilla article, it is nightlabs.de not .com. Emailed Marco yesterday BTW :-) | Nov 11 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/664378061840883712 | Nov 11 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Snooper’s charter one misspelled Google search for ‘bong-making’ and you’ll be in an orange jumpsuit @schestowitz https://t.co/2YkaP52S2u | Nov 11 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theguardian.com | The snooper’s charter: one misspelled Google search for ‘bong-making’ and you’ll be in an orange jumpsuit | Frankie Boyle | Comment is free | The Guardian | Nov 11 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6798620 | Nov 11 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663781514535174144 | Nov 11 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: Court affirmed 4th Amendment protections against NSA's mass surveillance, defending "the right to be left alone." https://t.co/JSgf3vpEYb | Nov 11 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Gone in a puff of logic." | Nov 11 10:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6802481 | Nov 11 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GPL Enforcement and the Trans-Pacific Partnershiphttps://sfconservancy.org/blog/2015/nov/09/gpl-tpp/ #gpl #copyleft #freesw #tpp | Nov 11 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz | That’s straight forward but we have seen folks like Bill Gates waste billions of everyone resources and time by arguing night is day. Where any confusion is possible, software owners will step in and bribe people to make bad decisions. | Nov 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Even the narrowest interpretation is bad news. It says governments can’t demand source code. That’s something governments should be doing, but I’m wondering, what is the actual situation people think that will happen? | Nov 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> sfconservancy.org | GPL Enforcement and the Trans-Pacific Partnership - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 11 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | I want to know how the text for there in the first place, but the process is so secretive that it may be impossible to know | Nov 11 10:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804283 | Nov 11 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #KDE #Plasma 5.4.3 is now available for #Kubuntu Wily (15.10) http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=424 might try these later... | Nov 11 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | "oh hi, roy" | Nov 11 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> wire.kubuntu.org | KDE Plasma 5.4.3 is now available for Kubuntu Wily (15.10) | Kubuntu Wire | Nov 11 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | 0/ ^_^ | Nov 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | “the idea is that for a full 24 hours, shoppers who are unmarried and unattached should go online and splurge on a nice gift for themselves.” | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | For me it’s called Christmas. | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6803230 | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Shopping Holiday | Nov 11 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 11 17:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804516 | Nov 11 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, I hate it when that happens." | Nov 11 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When powerful features get removed because "it might confuse people" you need to think who's really driving development & whether it's good | Nov 11 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | 'How do over-generalizations like this one add insight, except into the author’s prejudices? ;-)" | Nov 11 21:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804524 | Nov 11 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In my experience, people buy from #apple because they want to feel special (self-importance), so overpriced gadgets chosen [2/2] | Nov 11 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | "It might be a good prejudice" | Nov 11 21:40 |
| schestowitz | My sincere observation, when asking people why they choose the "i" thing... | Nov 11 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804524 | Nov 12 09:00 |
| schestowitz | "Can’t see any way to edit my comments other than to delete and repost. If there’s a way to edit after posting, please let me know. :-) | Nov 12 09:00 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 12 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Articles can't be edited, just reposted | Nov 12 09:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LinuxTopNews/status/664723059291525120 | Nov 12 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LinuxTopNews: Installing Debian – a rock solid Linux distro https://t.co/mzWAvni862 via @schestowitz https://t.co/22dJ4sTGIo | Nov 12 09:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> gettopical.com | Topical | Nov 12 09:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LinuxTopNews: Installing Debian – a rock solid Linux distro https://t.co/mzWAvni862 via @schestowitz https://t.co/22dJ4sTGIo | Nov 12 09:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/664819096198991874 | Nov 12 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz ROTFL! | Nov 12 14:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/664819489477931008 | Nov 12 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz lol | Nov 12 14:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806665 | Nov 12 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to misleadingly frame #apple as 'ahead' of #android http://www.latinpost.com/articles/93917/20151111/ios-vs-android-market-share-news-android-6-0-marshmallow-trails-behind-massive-ios-9-adoption.htm 'creative' (selective) stats | Nov 12 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | "No, Schestowitz domination.' | Nov 12 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.latinpost.com | iOS vs Android Market Share News: Android 6.0 Marshmallow Trails Behind Massive iOS 9 Adoption : Business : Latin Post | Nov 12 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Mr. Dr. Roy, do you work alone? or are you a bot? I know I have made this question before but… | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | or you really are an alien? | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | "He works in intelligence." | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | "I think he is the Alibaba of Diaspora!' | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | China's Alibaba? | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806884 | Nov 12 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Six WordPress Plugins Vulnerable http://fossforce.com/2015/11/six-wordpress-plugins-vulnerable/ worth keeping track of... #security #wordpress | Nov 12 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | fixed in the latest version available, except for 1 of them. | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | it’s important to update his wordpress website. | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossforce.com | Six WordPress Plugins Vulnerable | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/o9hle ] | Nov 12 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | Fortunately, I don't use any of these extensions | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah!" | Nov 12 15:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806665 | Nov 12 15:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Dominic Connor | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Chairman at Real Time Club | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Dominic Connor | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Chairman at Real Time Club | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | "I would like to invite you to join The Register Biting the hand that feeds IT on LinkedIn Groups. " | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | That's the term they use when they criticise Microsoft in El Reg these days | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/664835945070489600 | Nov 12 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ppetrovdotnet: @tqbf @schestowitz thats not even the point. #ethics is | Nov 12 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | CMU and ethics. See all its connections with the military industry... | Nov 12 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/664841465437274112 | Nov 12 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz I like @opera | Nov 12 16:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_S._Raymond&oldid=142179 | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rationalwiki.org | Eric S. Raymond - RationalWiki | Nov 12 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | To be fair, ESR’s talk about “SJWs” is crazy and the alleged groping is indefensible and confirmed by Jan. It’s reasonably clear that Microsoft and Intel are behind some of these attacks. ESR should know that and should watch out for bait that makes him look even crazier. He should also have never have groped anyone. Perhaps he will learn a lesson. | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I don’t think it’s going to get much traction outside of the Microsoft press. People have taken him to task for his crazy talk already and, as smear piece’s author notes, no one cared. The Rational Wiki pegged him crazy back in 2008. The sex stuff is gross and a turn off. It may turn off people who don’t know anything about free software in the first place but it’s not really going to undo what ESR has already accomplished or | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | get anyone to take him less seriously about technical matters, like his buffer bloat project. The cross section of people who both care about all the issues involve is a subset of a subset of a minority of the tech community. The larger technical community is bright enough to take what ESR might give while condemning the rest and hoping he changes his habits and attitudes towards people. | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804450 | Nov 12 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It seems plausible that many of the recent media attacks on #torvalds - like #rms before him - are symptom of corporate takeover of (F)OSS | Nov 12 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | I think it's all distracting from the original subject, TBH. | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/russian-plane-crash-foreign-spies-rather-than-gchq-found-chatter-evidence-of-sinai-bomb-plot-a6727871.html | Nov 12 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Russian plane crash: Foreign spies, not GCHQ, found 'chatter' evidence of Sinai bomb plot | Africa | News | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/o9jey ] | Nov 12 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | "The revelation comes as the Western security services are rapidly stepping up their focus on the leading members of the Isis affiliate that calls itself Sinai Province. British sources named the group’s spiritual leader, Abu Osama al-Masri, as a “person of interest” on Sunday. Believed to be 42 and a former clothing importer, Masri studied at Cairo’s Al-Azhar University, considered the world’s most prestigious seat of learning | Nov 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz | for Sunni Islam. He is thought to have been born in north Sinai and grown up in Sharqiya in the Nile Delta – the birthplace of al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri and other high-profile jihadists. " | Nov 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/mounting-suspicions-sinai-plane-crash-russian-response | Nov 12 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Mounting suspicions over Sinai plane crash force Russian response | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/o9jhh ] | Nov 12 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/664933373366960128 | Nov 12 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: ironically, #Snooperscharter and its backdoors will lead to far more such attacks...well done, UK gov.... https://t.co/XGjx3uWC2p | Nov 12 22:49 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #torygraph as a megaphone for #gchq https://t.co/L6CkEp8Ro9 #uk #tories #surveillance #policeState | Nov 12 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/664933457110425601 | Nov 12 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SeaH2ONymph: #Obama could have ended govt’s dragnet collection of #Americans’ data instant he learned about it... but he didn't. https://t.co/pxlccjMjdT | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Why did a liberal professor embrace the Bush surveillance state? Look to the law." https://t.co/yMwJY3N4Zw Posturing tyrant. Perfect cover. | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rougek68/status/664934942711877632 | Nov 12 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rougek68: @SeaH2ONymph My question to Schestowitz is... why does he use "#liberal" when the Government of #USA wed decades ago ? | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/664937668585914368 | Nov 12 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SeaH2ONymph: @SeaH2ONymph #NDAA: another #fascist law pushed through by #POTUS https://t.co/sH8nTCHKug | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.truthdig.com | Chris Hedges: The NDAA and the Death of the Democratic State - Chris Hedges - Truthdig | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BanksterBot/status/664938357722476544 | Nov 12 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BanksterBot: RT @schestowitz Banksters #MI6 and #GCHQ https://t.co/usrrGFcGwi #london #socialControl #classwar | Nov 12 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theguardian.com | Former spy chiefs to meet financiers at Gleneagles | UK news | The Guardian | Nov 12 22:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806825 | Nov 13 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Universities that work for the Army or militarised State Power https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/664497553224826880 #mit #cmu | Nov 13 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | "What people do for money." | Nov 13 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@emptywheel: @csoghoian How close is CMU's CERT to researchers? Remember they did data flow to ID Aaron Swartz at MIT. https://t.co/BrHRv9vsWt | Nov 13 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | High school teaches people to be good workers and that "success" is money | Nov 13 01:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806484 | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I know the work of Eric Raymond and personally I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, he might be saying something true. On the other hand I do not know neither personally nor the work of the ones claiming harassment, and without witnesses I’m unwilling to believe. | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I think that here in the West IT is dominated by men, and there is a harassment issue that must be fixed to make it more friendly to women. But guess what? I have heard and witnessed places where women are the ones in power positions and there was sexual harassment towards men, but nobody talks about that. Why is that? | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Sexual harassment against mail is very uncommon, it's a distraction from the real issue at hand. Like raped men... | Nov 13 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 13 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | *against men | Nov 13 01:53 |
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| schestowitz | there was a problem at varnish at 12:05 gmt. I spotted it very quickly, found out the root cause, restarted varnish within less than 10 minutes of this problem starting and it's back in good shape | Nov 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html | Nov 13 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html ) | Nov 13 12:52 | |
| schestowitz | >> > A bit old by now, I think, unless there is something specific that's | Nov 13 12:52 |
| schestowitz | >> > very important in there. | Nov 13 12:52 |
| schestowitz | > Old but AFIAK released just recently. But fine to skip. | Nov 13 12:52 |
| schestowitz | No headline that I can use or story that I can make of it.. | Nov 13 12:52 |
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| schestowitz | > Not much better yet Roy | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Going to specialist on Tuesday | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > It is called laryngiospasm and laryngeal reflux seems quite bad | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Will have tests | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Not able to go to work or gym | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Just about breathe | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | > Are you both ok???? | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | Years ago you recovered after a mysterious condition that last over a year. You did very well and became a top athlete again... after being number one on the rowing. | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | After the accident and the shoulder problem you managed to be on par with top ~50 for shotput in the UK, so you have a good track record of recovering from bad situations. | Nov 14 01:50 |
| schestowitz | I've just had a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laryngospasm and it seems as though severity may vary and the condition can go away. Just need strength, patience, and medical advice. | Nov 14 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Laryngospasm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Nov 14 01:50 | |
| schestowitz | Rianne and I are doing fine. We look forward to seeing you once you feel better and have recuperated. Wish we could do more to help at this tough time... | Nov 14 01:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/oshwm666/status/665419462921834497 | Nov 14 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@oshwm666: @schestowitz @yawnbox hard to imagine they didnt know it was coming if it was an isis attack considering they tracked jihadi john for 6 wks | Nov 14 07:25 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/665521328208764928 | Nov 14 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GeorgWebb: @quinnnorton @schestowitz Oh Paris isn't the city of needless provocation? Oh, just champagne now after you made your magazine sales. | Nov 14 13:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814427 | Nov 14 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #WarrenMitchell obituary: Alf Garnett and much more http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27046865#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa | Nov 14 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Great actor and character. Have just watched first seasons of The Saint series (Roger Moore). WM plays an italian taxi driver in some of them - GREAT! :D" | Nov 14 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.co.uk | Warren Mitchell obituary: Alf Garnett and much more - BBC News [ http://ur1.ca/o9rga ] | Nov 14 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6813985 | Nov 14 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So we all know now that mass #surveillance can't stop attacks (so more of it can only make matters worse). Question is, what happens next? | Nov 14 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | "More mass surveillance, of course!" | Nov 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | This time it'll work, they promise.... | Nov 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814774 | Nov 14 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media, as always (included right after 9/11), makes terrorists famous (like bad celebs), not knowing it only encouraged them | Nov 14 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | "Maybe that is not an unintended result?" | Nov 14 22:12 |
| schestowitz | They don't seem to care about the end result | Nov 14 22:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814762 | Nov 14 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Non-French War Deaths Matter http://davidswanson.org/node/4979 makes a valid point | Nov 14 22:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> davidswanson.org | Non-French War Deaths Matter | Let's Try Democracy | Nov 14 22:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | “We are led to believe that U.S. wars are not tolerated and cheered because of the color or culture of the people being bombed and occupied. But let a relatively tiny number of people be murdered in a white, Christian, Western-European land, with a pro-war government, and suddenly sympathy is the order of the day.” | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | No one minds when the rival gang gets hit, the problem is when your gang is affected. | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Indeed. | Nov 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6803506 | Nov 14 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Netbeans and #Rust support in #Ubuntu Make 15.11 http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Netbeans-and-Rust-support-in-Ubuntu-Make-15.11 | Nov 14 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Note that it does NOT mean support for #rust in #netbeans. Only 2 separate news (ubuntu supports A and ubuntu supports B)." | Nov 14 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blog.didrocks.fr | Netbeans and Rust support in Ubuntu Make 15.11 - DidRocks' blog | Nov 14 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | I guess this site is misinformed then | Nov 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814571 | Nov 14 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Koch Group Dumps Half Million Dollars in Florida Anti-Solar Campaign http://www.prwatch.org/news/2015/11/12975/Koch-Group-Dumps-Half-Million-Dollars-in-Florida-Anti-Solar-Campaign #capitalism at 'work' | Nov 14 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | "oh no, big bad koch bros at it again. i call bullshit" | Nov 14 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.prwatch.org | Koch Group Dumps Half Million Dollars in Florida Anti-Solar Campaign | PR Watch | Nov 14 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | PR Watch is reliable. So is there information that disputes this story?" | Nov 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | PR Watch is award-winning and accurate | Nov 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6813940 | Nov 14 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Listening and tracking devices good at listening to innocent law-abiding citizens; can't stop a single (among 6 simultaneous) terror attacks | Nov 14 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | "It’s stupid to think that a government can track every movement, though and interaction of every person in its territory. And if that is ever possible I would not like to live in a place like that." | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | "Of course human guards will have to be replaced by robots :-P | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | CCTV and a room with many monitors is one step towards that | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814085 | Nov 14 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I wonder what will happen sooner: Western politicians blaming #Putin because the killers used Kalashnikov rifles or @snowden for informing? | Nov 14 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | "They’ll blame both. “Clearly” the terrorists using Kalashnikovs was the fault of Putin “haboring” Snowden. cough" | Nov 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | "No, France will blame Syria, France has been looking for a pretext to invade Syria. It will be interesting to see how France deals with Russia on Syria now." | Nov 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | This was so obvious that had no merit guessing it: | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | http://cronostech.no-ip.org/posts/254643 | Nov 14 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cronostech.no-ip.org | ### #Paris #terror attack: Syrian #passport found on attacker was used to seek #asylum in #Greece | Nov 14 22:27 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Isn't France already involved to some extent in Syria? | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6812995 | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | @RKSS you will like this email I found on the OpenBSD mailing list for sure. Is this the kind of loyalty you expect from people? For some reason the MARC mailing list does not seem to be up today. | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:10:32 -0500 [06:10:32 CST] | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | From: Richard Thornton secularsolutionsllc@gmail.com | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | To: Francois Pussault fpussault@contactoffice.fr, Rod Whitworth glisten@witworx.com, misc@openbsd.org, Ryan Freeman ryan@slipgate.org | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Re: Paris… | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | France is screwed and perhaps Europe, translation, WWIII, unless they get their Muslim problem under control ASAP. Glad I don’t live there. Let’s not | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | forget Mr. Roy who went back home to Bangladesh for an award, or Van Gogh walking down a street in Amsterdam. Are France? and the few remaining Euro | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | fenchmen, finally ready to admit that they need to do what Israel has done? | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | But unfortunately, no they don’t and you will see this again, worse, soon. You don’t see these massacres in Switzerland do you? Wonder why? Had enough | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | yet France? | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 14 22:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814823 | Nov 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firms of #Patent Lawyers Continue Their Battle to Restore Software Patentability in the United States http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/lawyers-find-loopholes/ #swpats | Nov 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s kind of like farmers planting a crop they will later harvest. ;-)" | Nov 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Nice analogy | Nov 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Firms of Patent Lawyers Continue Their Battle to Restore Software Patentability in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o9rhx ] | Nov 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6815880 | Nov 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't let War on Terror distract from the #classwar and the battles against #nhs , pensions, etc. Not to mention poor-shaming... | Nov 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | "Take a break, doc. You deserve a good rest | Nov 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Just had a 3-hour break in Rusholme | Nov 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6813041 | Nov 14 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lots of "Pray for Paris" & "Praying for Paris" as if it'll help after many already died. Wasn't prayer and religion attackers' motivator? | Nov 14 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | It might be, but domestic terrorism or crime is a localized problem that a society broughts onto itself. When a country goes to bomb another one that’s a very different issue. | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Nowadays Japan is one of the safest places in the world, not thanks to imperialism. | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Japan has historically (long history) been very imperialistic and ruthless | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814443 | Nov 14 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "man who discarded an item at the airport." http://www.sussex.police.uk/pressline/2015/11/14/police-dealing-with-incident-at-gatwick-airport #dailyfail created unnecessary panic over this #gatwick incident | Nov 14 22:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.sussex.police.uk | Media Centre - Sussex Police [ http://ur1.ca/o9ri0 ] | Nov 14 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | “Police were called at around 9.30am on Saturday morning (November 14) following suspicious actions by a man who discarded an item at the airport. The man was arrested” | Nov 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Someone call the police, I just discarded an item onto my kitchen’s bin! | Nov 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791341 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791452 | Nov 08 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #indonesia never had any massacres because you're not allowed to talk about them http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/11/07/censorship-paradise.html #censorship #revisionism #deletionism | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.thejakartapost.com | Censorship in paradise | The Jakarta Post | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The mouthpiece of the #singapore regime - the #straitstimes - pretends that only other nations like #indonesia censor http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/arts/knowing-how-to-write-under-censorship | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.straitstimes.com | Singapore Writers Festival: Indonesia's Goenawan Mohamad on how to write under censorship, Arts News & Top Stories - The Straits Times | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791541 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6791539 | Nov 08 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The mainland has never renounced the use of force to bring what it considers a breakaway province under its control" http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-taiwan-first-meeting-since-1949-2015-11?r=US&IR=T | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | China Taiwan first meeting since 1949 - Business Insider | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #taiwan - "China maintains it will eventually reunify the island, by force if necessary." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11981225/No-force-can-pull-us-apart-Chinas-Xi-says-in-historic-China-Taiwan-summit.html reunite=conquer (euphemism) | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.telegraph.co.uk | 'No force can pull us apart’: China’s Xi says in historic China-Taiwan summit - Telegraph | Nov 08 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/uZ3bgDKm7pg[1-25] | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Nobody in their right minds takes Chris Ahlstrom seriously. I'm sure | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | that he's a fun friend to have and that he livens things up at any party | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | but he's little more than a goof in here. As for 7, the guy's got | Nov 08 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | crackpot written all over him. He also looks like something "Doctor" | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Schestowitz gave birth to in his toilet bowl. | Nov 08 01:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/iSrSoANtDKk[1-25] | Nov 08 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:40 | |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks from that troll again, from Canada... | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | But Joseph "7" Michael told me that Appile and Micro$haft do these kinds | Nov 08 01:40 |
| schestowitz | of things routinely and "Doctor" Roy Schestowitz told me that both | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | companies came to him and explicitly asked for his permission! | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 08 01:41 |
| schestowitz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/rZbnh_uSrmI[1-25] | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | We've _ALL_ proven that we know more about Linux than you do. You're a | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | fraud, you might as well be related to Schestowitz. | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 08 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-groups.google.com | Google Groups | Nov 08 01:43 | |
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| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Nov 08 08:42 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/663300339026812928 | Nov 08 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Euh what is the issue here? You know that before this, one hit on these keys triggered the reboot | Nov 08 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | CTRL+ALT+backspace was common to kill X, delete is nowadays associated with Windows | Nov 08 11:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/663310851219279872 | Nov 08 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz /me looks at /etc/inittab: # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now | Nov 08 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/663311793901707264 | Nov 08 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz https://t.co/icfH1m8DNd | Nov 08 11:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> anonscm.debian.org | collab-maint/sysvinit - sysvinit | Nov 08 11:08 | |
| schestowitz | Interesting, thanks | Nov 08 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/know-indonesias-devastating-fires/ | Nov 08 11:09 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:09 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> annexing PNG again? .id is showing the very worst of imperialism | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> - | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/nov/07/setting-a-country-alight-indonesias-devastating-forest-fires-are-manmade | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> - | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/nov/07/setting-a-country-alight-indonesias-devastating-forest-fires-are-manmade | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >> > Incidentally, I already saw many of the links above, so my feeds must be | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | >> > quite well adjusted ;-) | Nov 08 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Setting a country alight: Indonesia's devastating forest fires are manmade | Global Development Professionals Network | The Guardian | Nov 08 11:10 | |
| schestowitz | > Ok. Should I keep sending manually? | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | In real time over IRC might be best and fastest, if it's feasible... | Nov 08 11:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/663313309442170880 | Nov 08 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @jsnover must be a bug in my keyboard, along with the Windows-Key that I didn't ask for. @schestowitz | Nov 08 13:23 | |
| MinceR | i really liked this one | Nov 08 13:23 |
| schestowitz | URGENT: domain expired | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | There was no automatic renewal (nor notification) of boycottnovell.com, which I manage through Catalyst2, expiring. There are now tens of thousands orphaned links in my site. This is an urgent matter. I need the domain to be restored ASAP, and work as before (it links to a nameserver other than catalyst2's). | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Regards, | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Roy | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 14:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6792357 | Nov 08 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mass #surveillance is used by people in Power to more effectively classify people based on their threat to Power, then smear/blackmail them | Nov 08 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | "people in Power are a threat to us all - as they have all they do hidden by official secrets etc !" | Nov 08 14:41 |
| schestowitz | "consequently we the people are a threat to their power control system of war" | Nov 08 14:41 |
| schestowitz | update re boycottnovell domain: " I'm just looking into that now. I will let you know ASAP." | Nov 08 14:50 |
| schestowitz | "I need it back online ASAP. A lot of traffic is being lost. I will make the payment for sure - not sure why I wasn't sent a reminder about expiry." | Nov 08 14:51 |
| schestowitz | -me | Nov 08 14:51 |
| schestowitz | "I see that the domain has just been re-registered. Does it need (re)configuring from your end, or need I wait for DNS servers to be updated before service it restored?" | Nov 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz | -me | Nov 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz | " I have just renewed this domain for you. I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. I'm just looking into it now to see what has happen." | Nov 08 15:02 |
| schestowitz | It needs to have | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Name Server:NS1.COPILOTCO.COM | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Name Server:NS2.COPILOTCO.COM | Nov 08 15:03 |
| schestowitz | looks like it's fixed now | Nov 08 15:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | > It appears there was an issue with our billing system where your domain | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | > has been removed in error. Again I do apologize. | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | me: | Nov 08 15:09 |
| schestowitz | That's OK. Do we know how long the domain was down for? I noticed by sheer coincidence, not sure how long it was expired for... | Nov 08 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Months ago we lost access to mail and our site was down because the billing system was silently changed and schestowitz.com was not notified and also led to deactivation. | Nov 08 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/663404789057912832 | Nov 08 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz #KDE was my first too, because of #Mandrake and later #SUSE. I've used #GNOME a few good years after, now I'm on #Cinnamon =) | Nov 08 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | [16:39] <zoobab_> pong | Nov 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | [16:40] <zoobab_> any chance for you to come to fosdem? | Nov 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | I never go to such events I'm afraid... | Nov 08 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788387 | Nov 09 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Children or grown ups? #apple fans... http://www.cultofmac.com/395703/custom-lego-minifigs-put-jobs-woz-and-cook-on-your-desk/ | Nov 09 18:00 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cultofmac.com | Custom Lego minifigs put Jobs, Woz, and Cook on your desk | Cult of Mac | Nov 09 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Perhaps my view is more a reflection of my personal values. If someone is portrayed as intelligent, visionary, and determined, yet is unkind and unconcerned about how he mistreats those closest to him, my interpretation is that this portrayal is unflattering." | Nov 09 18:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794463 | Nov 09 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA has funneled to the various brigades of the Free Syrian Army... TOW anti-tank missiles." http://uk.businessinsider.com/cia-vetted-syrian-rebels-fighting-assad-2015-10?r=US&IR=T can shoot planes too | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | CIA-vetted Syrian rebels fighting Assad - Business Insider | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "It’s been going on for four years." | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Can go on longer, see Vietnam | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794459 | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "US Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard is correct, in my view." | Nov 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794444 | Nov 09 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Rise of America’s Secret Government: The Deadly Legacy of Ex-CIA Director Allen Dulles http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/rise-americas-secret-government-deadly-legacy-ex-cia-director-allen-dulles shadow decision-making | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.alternet.org | The Rise of America’s Secret Government: The Deadly Legacy of Ex-CIA Director Allen Dulles | Alternet | Nov 09 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | "A secret US government with shadow decision-making would explain a lot of actions that are otherwise difficult to understand." | Nov 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Some people profit from this but are never named | Nov 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794394 | Nov 09 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. airstrike on Afghanistan Doctors Without Borders hospital looks more and more like a ‘kill mission’ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-doctors-borders-airstrike-kill-mission-article-1.2425113?cid=bitly #warcrime | Nov 09 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | "They must have known something that the US, or perhaps lower levels of the military, wanted to hide. Perhaps the soldiers hate MSF for treating all wounded, including Taliban. It’s good to see this in the American mainstream media." | Nov 09 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.nydailynews.com | King: Doctors Without Borders airstrike a 'kill mission' - NY Daily News | Nov 09 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | …I am making an assumption that they treat all wounded, as they should, as long as they are unarmed." | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Would be a lot better to trial US soldiers for war crimes or at least impose economic sanctions to the US. I fail to see why it’s OK for Russia but the US is the criminal exception." | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | @Cronos: | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | To start with IT: No more x86-CPUs (Intel, AMD) for anybody. No new network equipment (Cisco, Linksys), only lenove-Hardware (or custom-built) for the rest of the world. Next: Google-Shutdown, facebook-Shutdown, twitter-Shutdown. There’s - apart from democracy, freedom and Boeing-Airplanes - not much more that the US actually exports (maybe some overpriced patented medication) and which could be sanctioned. But it affects a whole lot of | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | people, including the options to (re)start the “arabic spring”, however successful it was. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | With Russia… Well, it’s only natural gas most of western europe uses which might no longer be supplied… | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Other direction of flow of goods: The chinese would be dead stupid to cut their cash-cow which has so willingly exported almost entire production to China. Likewise the rest of the world. Europe has already suffered from its sanctions against Russia by dropping income from exporting goods to Russia. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | The world has evolved beyond the point where any major country can be punished by economic sanctions without also harming the sanctioners. And all major countries know this perfectly well. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Economic sanctions are mainly to punish the other party, not oneself, that’s why Europe not only did not stop buying Russian gas, demands Russia to keep selling it. It’s the same for the US and Russian rockets that supply the ISS. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | And because the US did not actually produce physical goods is that economic sanctions would be more effective. What do you thing Europeans would prefer, no Russian gas or no Facebook? Most people in countries like mine would say “what’s wrong in giving the US our ass? I want Facebook back!”, but that very same people would find a substitute one month later and in six months forget Facebook ever existed. It’s the same for Google | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | and other services, but it’s not the same Banana Republic losing Facebook than the US seeing Facebook’s billions of value going to the void. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | US Patents: that’s an excellent example of something that can be easily banned with almost no consequences for the country banning them. Can you imagine the damage to US economy if patents stopped to be honored? | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Some technology like processors would be hurtful but there are other options, it’s not like the US produced the only processors available in the world. Windows? I can bet the US government would prefer to give it for free rather than losing the power and information gathering over its users. Cutting the communications cables? Communications are double sided, and that would mean the practical end of the NSA, they would only spy upon US | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | people that is still good but not enough. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | The US economy relies heavily on exports, and exports services unlike China that exports actual physical goods. That’s why the US has resorted to punish China “prosecuting” top Chinese army officials that never will be caught by the US. China is one of the few countries with an economy big enough to not rely on exports. It would be fun to see how the US tries to impose economic sanctions on China. | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Saying the wounded were Taliban may be clever 'damage control' spin from the aggressor, take only with a barrel of salt.... the "worthy victims" pattern of spin or the "they like death" (or "have no value for life") spin... this is centuries old FUD, not decades old | Nov 09 18:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fschestowitz%2Fstatus%2F662777903818612737%3Fcn%3DcmVwbHk%253D%26refsrc%3Demail&t=1&cn=cmVwbHk%3D&sig=f50a550f4c6f03d0a01efb55c8331679cbe6f7ef&iid=2051f7dd92094fa0aa1511f26ec36fb7&uid=26603208&nid=27+1287 | Nov 09 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663543821054181376 | Nov 09 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-twitter.com | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662777903818612737?cn=cmVwbHk%3D&refsrc=email | Nov 09 18:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: #CBS just compared me with a spree shooter. On grounds even CIA said were ridiculous - in 2013! Old people TV, man. https://t.co/B7u8zxgEgM | Nov 09 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: #CBS just compared me with a spree shooter. On grounds even CIA said were ridiculous - in 2013! Old people TV, man. https://t.co/B7u8zxgEgM | Nov 09 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663780379397128192 | Nov 09 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: In historic decision, US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. Victory! https://t.co/OtBGc3aVuU https://t.co/7thZIGXbyI | Nov 09 18:18 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: In historic decision, US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. Victory! https://t.co/OtBGc3aVuU https://t.co/7thZIGXbyI | Nov 09 18:19 | |
| schestowitz | Hi Paul, | Nov 09 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I have just tested this and it works well. I accessed dev over SSH just to ensure it works for me. | Nov 09 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Was it hard to set up? Well, yes, but proprietary software on BSD or GNU/Linux is typically like this. It's an afterthought for the developers. I have been reading recently (4 articles in the past month) about Citrix trying to improve their software for FOSS users, even at the GUI lever, so there's hope... | Nov 09 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Just made some advice internally: | Nov 09 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I like xxxx's suggestion, which basically re-factors and restructures (under the surface) the whole Wiki. It's probably worth the effort given that a new Wiki user (employee) can get lost in the Wiki, despite the small audience of the Wiki (maybe a dozen people). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I never used foswiki for a site of my own, as I typically use mediawiki, which the company used before the conversion (it predates me joining the company nearly 5 years ago). foswiki 'fragments' itself based on "Webs" - a concept which mediawiki does not have, excepting maybe subdomains (like, for different languages). In mediawiki tags can be used to lump together related pages in one single page where topics are alphabetically sorted. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For some types of documentation (e.g. dictionaries/encyclopaedias/staff directories), this is incredible handy! A page source would be preceded by some list of categories that describe it and it would then automatically be indexed under some parent page. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | What does this mean to our company? | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Well, when we access a "Web" for a particular company we then have a virtual hierarchy of pages underneath it, and these are partly based on a general template. Sometimes it's not so easy (especially for someone not familiar with the lateral scope of the Wiki) where to find some particular pages, and having multiple levels of hierarchy does not necessarily help. Moreover, quite often I struggle in using the search facility, as results are | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | presented from all the different Webs, separated by headings that correspond to each Web. It's not so easy to 'localise' the search or perform more complicated queries (RT used to make search too awkward to use if "advanced"). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Currently, what we have for each client is a list of passwords (in a table), plus some instructions. But we also have something similar in lastpass. As long as one is removed (usually from the Wiki), there is no risk of things going out of sync, due to them existing in multiple places. Speaking of lastpass, after their recent takeover, I am frankly uncertain about its future and which direction it'll go. I never trusted lastpass to begin | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | with, having read about Internet security and privacy for a very long time (including NDAs and canaries). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Andrew advocates refactoring as means for organising the information and making it importable. This can complicate the editing process for people who are not so apt at technical editing with cross-referencing or for people who never used Wikis before. Some of our staff is more technical than others, but we share the same tools. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I don't think a universal format for guides can be agreed on because different clients have different processes and some are purely support, whereas others are more focused on a set of technical steps to take. Speaking about my own examples/assigned tasks, | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | the ombudsman does not have its own ticketing system, unlike some others. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Looking afresh at all this (as a new arrival), one needs to know the type of client; the colours on Webs are familiar to some, even without a legend/glossary/colour guide. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I think there's a risk that if we restructure the pages too much, then it can confuse those of us who got accustomed to them (in their current form). Making them welcoming to new arrivals can therefore come at the expense of others who, despite the current format not being immaculate, know their way around and can 'hack' their way into the needed/required information. Muscle memory and all that malarkey... | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I currently have a lot of material (screenshots, text) about clients, but just sticking it somewhere at the front page of a Web under a new hyperlink/anchor might not help ensure people will: | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 1. know that it exists | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 2. be able to find it. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | The 'dream' system would obviously be tidy, easy to maintain, but not with a steep learning curve. We have: | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 1. Contacts | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 2. Passwords | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 3. HowTos | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 4. Ticketing-related/contact-related (e.g. xxxx) HowTos | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 5. Lists of machines/assets, sometimes linked to (2) above. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | 6. SLAs and other customer-specific information | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (1) we might want to think about installing a web-based application, like timetracker, which is dedicated to storing and updating contacts (not just electronic mail). This can be secured by a firewall. Import/export of contacts would be a plus. Sometimes it's convenient to just let the mail client auto-complete rather than copy from a Wiki; it also reduces changes of embarrassing errors (import/export can ensure this remains up to | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | date). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (2) we currently use lastpass. There are some actively-maintained FOSS alternatives to lastpass (a dozen of articles have been published about this since the takeover). Some can be locally managed and hosted, which guards from snooping by third parties on 'the cloud' (meaning, other people's servers). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (3), a method of making it easier to find the appropriate HowTos needed. I can't think of anything other than filter-based searches, like those which filter a Q&A database. F.U. used to manage documentation like this with Confluence (locally installed). | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For (4) it should be similar to (3), plus some way of knowing (for newcomers) where and how (and who for) to update tickets. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | (5) seems like a combination of (2) and (3) | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | (6) is, to some degree, already doable in OTRS. I don't know how many of us actually access the SLA pages in the Wiki... as in the 24/7 team we typically respond and act as soon as possible anyway; it's the obligation to resolve/escalate within some predefined time period that matters a lot here. OTRS isn't necessarily kept aligned with what's on the Wiki, but then again, these agreements don't change much (if at all) over time.. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I think we should consider adding some software to our toolset (like we did with timetracker to avoid passing E-mail attachments around) and maybe phasing out some old methods which are either slow to use, too cumbersome for a new employee, or not secure (or several of the above at once). The move from RT to OTRS, by the way, was a big leap forward, IMHO. Our Wiki has been modernised with software updates, but some things that we manage | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | through the Wiki can be 'outsourced' to specialised tools, /a la/ (1) above. | Nov 09 19:59 |
| schestowitz | For the time being I will drop my new documentation into suitable place in the Wiki. | Nov 09 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6786357 | Nov 10 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #twitter changing a star into a heart means they increasingly try to mimic #facebook when it comes to everything, #surveillance included. | Nov 10 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Hmm. I have to admit there are fb features I’d like to see here." | Nov 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | "The topic Twitter + surveillance would interest me" | Nov 10 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6788350 | Nov 10 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #facebook already knows everything about you and planted cookies everywhere, so you don't have to specify name https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/11/facebooks-new-name-policy-changes-are-progress-not-perfection | Nov 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "I give a fuck about that, No Facebook anymore …" | Nov 10 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.eff.org | Facebook's New Name Policy Changes are Progress, Not Perfection | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/o8o60 ] | Nov 10 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Now we can help others abandon it... | Nov 10 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6792364 | Nov 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Size doesn’t matter." | Nov 10 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Says a sociopath ;-p | Nov 10 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I never lie" say only sociopaths. Everybody lied some time, somewhere (>white lies< at the very least). Counter-productive to state so. | Nov 10 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794459 | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | "agree. so does obama, in that he doesn’t even try to find a valid excuse." | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6794463 | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | joe, this is a long read if you go back to the many other links, but it strongly argues that the syria war was triggered by our favorite empire. | Nov 10 18:14 |
| schestowitz | http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-uprising-against-assad-was-engineered-in-washington/ | Nov 10 18:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA has funneled to the various brigades of the Free Syrian Army... TOW anti-tank missiles." http://uk.businessinsider.com/cia-vetted-syrian-rebels-fighting-assad-2015-10?r=US&IR=T can shoot planes too | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> uk.businessinsider.com | CIA-vetted Syrian rebels fighting Assad - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/o93t9 ] | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rinf.com | The Uprising Against Assad Was Engineered in Washington [ http://ur1.ca/o9aap ] | Nov 10 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6784521 | Nov 10 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ed @snowden put out there #gchq documents to document crime, whereupon GCHQ was found guilty in #uk but rather than jail, Tories legalise it | Nov 10 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | "A lot - it’s run by two journalist/editors dedicated to highlighting the propaganda and ignorance of the so-called left-wing media in the UK, namely the Guardian, BBC and the Independent. They take the position that the right-wing media’s threat is obvious and easily understood. But the supposed left-wing media is much more insidious and hypocritical in the service of neo-liberalism and the security state. Many of the members are | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | journalists and former journalists. It’s a great link aggregator for stories that tell a fuller story about what’s happening in the world. Also, there are quite a few members who should really be enticed onto diaspora but haven’t taken the plunge! Cross-fertilization between our various silos of resistance is ever-more essential these days I think." | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | diaspora is a good place for sharing and absorbing ideas, not for mass distribution of information.... we need to try to grow this movement. | Nov 10 18:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6798620 | Nov 10 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663781514535174144 | Nov 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | "The meaning of privacy is plain to almost everyone, so why did there need to be a judge’s ruling on this issue, and more importantly, who neglected to pay off the judge? ;-)" | Nov 10 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: Court affirmed 4th Amendment protections against NSA's mass surveillance, defending "the right to be left alone." https://t.co/JSgf3vpEYb | Nov 10 18:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Probably to “regain trust,” Ted. No one is going to use US services while the US government is acting so wrongly. It does not matter, people should never again trust the services that betrayed them and seek to host their own solutions. | Nov 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I hope "cloud" will go away.. | Nov 10 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | [18:20] <exbibytes> Dr. Schestowitz, I have a question, if you don't mind: This patent deal, what exactly does it mean? Is it that Red Hat is "immune" to litigation from Microsoft, and vice-versa, or is there more to it than just "immunity?" | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <schestowitz> It's not even permanent | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <exbibytes> What I mean is, Microsoft now carries Red Hat as the "preferred" GNU/Linux distribution.. | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <schestowitz> It's not clear what it means, I asked people in Red Hat who will speak to their CEO and lawyers | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <exbibytes> Oh.. | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <schestowitz> I want to see the legal texts | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <schestowitz> not some lousy short FAQ | Nov 10 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:22] <exbibytes> Thanks Sir, | Nov 10 18:23 |
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| schestowitz | "Maybe JoinDiaspora is, but there are 90 some other pods out there with <100 users on them that have uptime >99%." | Nov 10 19:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6800130 | Nov 10 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I made this infographic to try to convince my Facebook friends to join #diaspora. Do any Adobe #Illustrator wizards out there have any suggestions? | Nov 10 19:15 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by rovingrichard@therealtalk.org: https://therealtalk.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_602730127241489db4a3.png | Nov 10 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36012/ | Nov 10 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Walking in a Minefield: Microsoft and Red Hat announce cloud partnership, show .NET some love | Nov 10 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "At Red Hat, I quickly realized I was leading a company driven by something other than the profit motive" | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Now, doesn't that statement prove Jim's integrity and wisdom? | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Heck, I'm convinced. ;) | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35965/ | Nov 10 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Poettering said...: systemd 225 Adds 'su' Replacement, Saving of Private-Zone DHCP Options | Nov 10 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Busybox's choice is irrelevant in this discussion as they are not a full fat general purpose distro but rather a tiny minimalistic distro with a very narrow focus, so for them doing without systemd is far easier than for a normal distro. " | Nov 10 19:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-vs-the-internet-security-pros/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Nov 10 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.zdnet.com | Linus Torvalds vs. the internet security pros | ZDNet | Nov 10 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | " The Washington Post feature story, Net of Insecurity: The kernel of the argument, opens "Fast, flexible and free, Linux is taking over the online world. But there is growing unease about security weaknesses."" | Nov 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Making the illusion that Linxu doesn't want secuierty | Nov 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft does?! | Nov 10 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Matthew Garrett's Blog: "It's not FUD and the state of security in the kernel is currently far short of where it should be." | Nov 10 19:28 |
| schestowitz | https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38158.html | Nov 10 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Why improving kernel security is important | Nov 10 19:28 | |
| MinceR | why is he still whining? he already made his fork | Nov 10 19:36 |
| MinceR | he can probably get redcrap to adopt it and start forcing it on everyone | Nov 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "It doesn't look like KDBUS will be ready for merging into the mainline Linux kernel" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDBUS-Back-To-Design | Nov 10 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | KDBUS Is Indeed Going Back To The Drawing Board - Phoronix | Nov 10 19:51 | |
| MinceR | i'm sure larabel is sad about that | Nov 10 19:52 |
| MinceR | he couldn't wait for the windowsification of the kernel | Nov 10 19:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/664168056797663232 | Nov 10 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Already? :D | Nov 10 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, he's seemingly all fine with systemd | Nov 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | based on all of his articles, which I follow individually | Nov 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | every small thing regarding systemd he covers | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | giving LP a platform since the PA days.. | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | I think it's evident that Larabel also has a hardon for anything German | Nov 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6798475 | Nov 10 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wow, reprieve comes even from #gop then... https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663780379397128192 #nsa | Nov 10 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: In historic decision, US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. Victory! https://t.co/OtBGc3aVuU https://t.co/7thZIGXbyI | Nov 10 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | "I was with Snowden until I saw he in Russia!I sayed WTF! His job was not about freedom! If was about freedom he never left america ! The people sure would stand with him. But no, he was with military secrets and was why he go away." | Nov 10 20:25 |
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| r_schestowitz | this man and another from Red Hat look at me in linkedin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Eischmann | Nov 11 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fedoraproject.org | User:Eischmann - FedoraProject | Nov 11 00:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.eischmann.cz/index.php?page=galerie | Nov 11 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eischmann.cz | Ji Eischmann - Galerie | Nov 11 00:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.opera.com/whereismyopera | Nov 11 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.opera.com | My Opera is now closed - Opera | Nov 11 00:18 | |
| r_schestowitz | "My Opera closed on March 3, 2014" | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | WTF? | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | 'The cloud' | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | just like this it vanished one day... | Nov 11 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 00:20 |
| r_schestowitz | "Remember Linspire? They pulled the same "deal" with them." | Nov 11 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux [ http://ur1.ca/o9bbj ] | Nov 11 00:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I keep reading about how much MS <3 Linux. Meanwhile I keep see them trying to stab the penguin to death." | Nov 11 00:20 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Red Hat staff should pay attention to today’s (just announced by Microsoft) patent blackmail deal. When Red Hat staff (salaried engineers for the most part) claim that the deal with Microsoft is a “win” they delude themselves in the same way SUSE staff did at the time of the Novell-Microsoft deal. According to this article: “As for the Red Hat partnership that Microsoft has struck, it looks far reaching. The partnership | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | calls for a Red Hat engineering team to move to Redmond to provide joint technical support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux workloads running in the Microsoft Azure public cloud and on its hybrid cloud offerings.” | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Oh, no, the horror! Wait, what am I supposed to be upset about? Why is RHEL on Azure having a dedicated support team a bad thing? I surely must be missing something here. | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Maybe somebody can provide some evidence of why the Microsoft-Novell deal was so bad. It's been many years since that was adopted, and I'm not aware of one tangible negative consequence. Even the sale of Novell patents, which was not the original deal, has provisions by the US DOJ and German authorities that explicitly recognize that the patents are subject to the GPL. | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:21 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | Since Red Hat is so secretive about it, who knows? We contacted the lawyers who were involved in making the agreement on patents (Carlo Piana and Rob Tiller), but still no response. It has been days now. | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | I guess in the absence of knowledge, it's only responsible to suppose the worst. Don't get me wrong -- it would be fine to do that if there was consistent prior history. However, these patent agreements, despite outpourings of huge amounts of vitriol among enthusiasts, haven't produced any real problems. | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | This guy has absolutely asinine expectations of transparency in these arrangements. That's not how business deals ever happen, and the mere lack of unreasonable transparency does not indicate impropriety. | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | "tl;dr nothing to see here. MS licensing out patents it owns to other companies. Yes, there is a such thing as non-free software in Linux." | Nov 11 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | "what does Red Hat support in Azure have to do with patent litigation?" | Nov 11 00:27 |
| r_schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20060705015626/http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | tuxmachines.org | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | before takeover http://web.archive.org/web/20131014215433/http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | tuxmachines.org | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | initial improvements http://web.archive.org/web/20140110040535/http://www.tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | another redesign http://web.archive.org/web/20140625230815/http://tuxmachines.org/ | Nov 11 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Nov 11 00:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I really can't understand why people keep posting techrights articles. It's completely disreputable, ridiculously biased and barely rational in many instances." | Nov 11 00:37 |
| r_schestowitz | Meh | Nov 11 00:37 |
| r_schestowitz | didn't even point out any mistakes | Nov 11 00:37 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/more-100-new-canal-side-10423749 | Nov 11 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk | More than 100 new canal-side homes set to be approved for Ancoats - Manchester Evening News | Nov 11 00:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Part of the agreement specifically deals with patents and patent litigation between the two companies: | Nov 11 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux [ http://ur1.ca/o9bbj ] | Nov 11 00:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Red Hat and Microsoft have agreed to a limited patent arrangement in connection with the commercial partnership for the benefit of mutual customers. | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | The heart of the arrangement is a patent standstill that provides that neither company will pursue a patent lawsuit or claim against the other or its customers, while we are partnering. Neither company acknowledged the validity or enforceability of the other’s intellectual property; it is not a patent license or a covenant not to sue and no payment was made or will be made for intellectual property. | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | The partnership is between commercial companies related to their common customer offerings, spurred by customer demand. Both parties carefully designed for FOSS licensing compliance in building the arrangement and each party’s relationship to the FOSS community stands on its own." | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/faq-red-hat-and-microsoft-partnership (see section 4) | Nov 11 00:50 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | FAQ: Red Hat and Microsoft Partnership | Red Hat [ http://ur1.ca/o9bg3 ] | Nov 11 00:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | "Maybe somebody can provide some evidence of why the Microsoft-Novell deal was so bad. " | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | I think you have to go back in time to understand why this was seen as a bad thing. When the Microsoft-Novell deal was signed Microsoft was loudly claiming that they would not only sue Linux OS companies, but their customers as well. The Microsoft-Novell deal, IIRC, specifically indemnified Novell customers, which was seen by many in the Linux community as effectively saying that Microsoft did have valid patent claims against Linux. | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | Red Hat's patent agreement appears to be very different from the Microsoft-Novel agreement. Red Hat & Microsoft are no longer pointing their missiles at each other. Neither company will acknowledge the validity of the patents that the other company has, and more importantly no payment was made for IP or IP protection. | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 00:51 |
| r_schestowitz | "holy sensationalist headline, batman!" | Nov 11 00:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I believe the industry term is "yellow journalism." Even if you hate it they still win as long as you're talking about it." | Nov 11 01:12 |
| r_schestowitz | "Do you have a link to that? The only thing I'm finding is from when Microsoft sued them for calling their Linux distro "Lindows."" | Nov 11 01:14 |
| r_schestowitz | "Am I the only one who thinks Novell was actually trying to help Linux at the time? Also I think Red Hat handled it better as there was no patent royalties afaik" | Nov 11 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Not for Red Hat maybe | Nov 11 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | but opened the door to others | Nov 11 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | like Novell, but to a lesser degree | Nov 11 01:16 |
| MinceR | wow | Nov 11 01:17 |
| MinceR | >believes novell was trying to help "linux" | Nov 11 01:17 |
| MinceR | human stupidity never ceases to amaze me | Nov 11 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | "but..but... the circlejerk...' | Nov 11 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | "Almost clicked the link. Saw it was from techrights. Crisis narrowly averted." | Nov 11 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Not the Mono boosters and Microsoft boosters are arriving | Nov 11 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | hence the change of tone in the comments | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | in digg they were called "bury squad" | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | PR perhaps | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | if they're away/asleep or miss the thread all is OK | Nov 11 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | it's when directhex and chaps from Novell come that it becomes an anti-Roy circlejerk | Nov 11 01:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Like COLA/USENET | Nov 11 01:28 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/664254100796743680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/664254558756040704 https://twitter.com/padreadamo/status/664237059805155328 | Nov 11 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Kexi objects are the top-level entities of type Table, Query, Form, Report, Script or Macro." https://t.co/nPgEwUEEti #kde | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blogs.kde.org | Kexi 3 object icons | blogs.kde.org | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #KDE Ships #Plasma 5.4.3 https://t.co/RV1sPfqWOw release Available now in Wily Backports. https://t.co/ZjdRrmlDpe | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> dot.kde.org | KDE Ships Plasma 5.4.3, Bugfix Release for November | KDE.news | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> scarlettgatelyclark.com | Kubuntu: KDE 5.4.3 Bugfix release Available now for Wily in Kubuntu Backports. | Home of Scarlett Gately Clark | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@padreadamo: Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion https://t.co/mCePWNtZy1 via @Inoreader | Nov 11 01:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion | Techrights | Nov 11 01:37 | |
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| r_schestowitz | At least to me it seems like a win for RH. They get more customers with Azure and they get .Net free from doubts which they can ship with their product. Either nothing changes if one doesn't want Azure and .Net or one just gets more options | Nov 11 01:38 |
| r_schestowitz | All that MS gets it is ability to have supported RHEL on their cloud which is probably quite common request from their customers. | Nov 11 01:39 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 01:39 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux | Nov 11 01:39 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheCourtneyB84/status/664260640329043968 | Nov 11 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheCourtneyB84: @JeremyRecklein https://t.co/n8oQO6XQTe | Nov 11 01:58 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Chicago #police detained thousands of black Americans at interrogation facility http://t.co/zJ4e1NO8yZ #chicago #racism #torture #framing | Nov 11 01:58 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | and the .NET on RHEL (and every other Linux system) is FOSS, so I don't see the problem using it freedom wise. | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | The reason I don't like .NET personally is its use of PE, but other than that, there's really no technical problem with it. | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | I would like to see a asm.js and WebAssembly implementation of C#. | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:04 |
| r_schestowitz | LOL, directhex | Nov 11 02:20 |
| r_schestowitz | he's there now with the bury squad | Nov 11 02:20 |
| r_schestowitz | "Especially when this is most surely related to Android offerings from Star Micronics where Samsung and others already set bad example of being ready to pay up" | Nov 11 02:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | When the Microsoft-Novell deal was signed Microsoft was loudly claiming that they would not only sue Linux OS companies, but their customers as well. | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | That's what people interpreted from the licensing deals, but there have never been any public communications, or more importantly court filings, that substantiate those fears. Anyways, that's not my point. My point is that, despite the vocal fears and doomsday predictions of many, those fears haven't been realized, and the deal is on the eve of expiring. I think that we, as the entire free software community, would be better served by | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | being cautious and restraining bombastic outcries until they are substantiated. We can be skeptical, but there's no reason to jump to code red from get-go. | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with your assessment of this Microsoft-Red Hat deal. | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:47 |
| r_schestowitz | When the Microsoft-Novell deal was signed Microsoft was loudly claiming that they would not only sue Linux OS companies, but their customers as well. | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | That's what people interpreted from the licensing deals, but there have never been any public communications, or more importantly court filings, that substantiate those fears. Anyways, that's not my point. My point is that, despite the vocal fears and doomsday predictions of many, those fears haven't been realized, and the deal is on the eve of expiring. I think that we, as the entire free software community, would be better served by | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | being cautious and restraining bombastic outcries until they are substantiated. We can be skeptical, but there's no reason to jump to code red from get-go. | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | I agree with your assessment of this Microsoft-Red Hat deal. | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "Let's just back up and take a deep breathe, and stop fighting, so our users can use". | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Yeah. Those bastards /s | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "Haven't been there in a while. Is apple still on the verge of extinction?" | Nov 11 02:48 |
| r_schestowitz | directhex and gang are these now | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | ad hominem-ing | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft too. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Only the Reverse Vampires and Saucer People are keeping them afloat. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | says " | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft too. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Only the Reverse Vampires and Saucer People are keeping them afloat. | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | -directhex | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | he loves Microsoft too, I guess | Nov 11 02:52 |
| r_schestowitz | "I wish more people understood this." | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Dammit..I wish I did,but it happened so long ago. It happened after the Lindows/Windows pissing contest,but I can't remember exactly when. Microsoft made the same "deal" with Android and suck money from every device sold,and SUSE, and of course,.Red Hat. | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Xandoris also cut a deal with Microsoft, if I remember correctly, and died soon after. No one has ever been willing to contest them in court. I suspect they will do this to Ubuntu next. | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft general counsel claims open source software, including Linux, violates 235 of the company's patents | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/2662507/operating-systems/microsoft-demands-royalties-for-open-source-software.html | Nov 11 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.infoworld.com | Microsoft demands royalties for open source software | InfoWorld | Nov 11 03:16 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:16 |
| r_schestowitz | "Can someone explain like I'm five please? The article Just kept saying the word parents and I just couldn't press on. What were the parents for?" | Nov 11 03:17 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Only Days After Red Hat Legitimised Microsoft’s Patents Against Linux Another Linux-Using Company Falls Victim to Microsoft’s Patent Extortion : linux | Nov 11 03:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Linspire (Lindows) died almost wholly and completely to arrogance coupled with extreme incompetence. I don't care for MS either, but they dug their own grave. Pricing shenanigans, a website based program delivery system replacing repositories (OH WOW AJAX!), grossly missed releases, and all kinds of other issuues. They put the gun to thier own head and and pulled the trigger. MS just made sure the bullet had enough powder." | Nov 11 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KanysLupin/status/664287353373130752 | Nov 11 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KanysLupin: @Ali_H_Soufan @schestowitz @navarrotells @glynco @IanWalthew @circleofinsight @BBCPanorama @barryeisler https://t.co/cS9tz8oqyS | Nov 11 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KanysLupin: "A Brief Domestic and Global Terror Timeline" https://t.co/TsXHQAAdw9 #NeverForget #MattDeHart and more. | Nov 11 03:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | "No, they really weren't, but the times and attitudes are so different today that the situations just aren't at all comparable." | Nov 11 03:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm curious about their argument but won't go to the site I'm sure it is horribly biased. | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | What's the argument? What are the counter points? Any good search terms to find more information? | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | No counter points | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | just personal attacks | Nov 11 03:56 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | What's the argument? | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | Redhat sucks because they took a patent agreement with Microsoft because Microsoft sued another company with said patents. | Nov 11 04:18 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Nov 11 04:18 |
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| schestowitz | Patents, not parents. Microsoft claims that Linux infringes at least 235 of their patents. Microsoft never disclosed which of their patents or which software is involved. It could be the Linux kernel, X.org, LibrOffice, etc. We just don't know. | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Meanwhile Microsoft goes around and accosts Linux businesses for patent licencing deals, without disclosing what they truly infringe. At least that is the offical word on the street. So Microsoft is raking in a pretty sum on "licensed" Linux devices. The thing is that it seems to be based on unsubstantiated threats. | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Too bad nobody in the business world has had the balls to bring a RICO suit, as Microsoft's Linux patent licensing deals pretty much look like "What a nice Linux business you got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it. For a low fee per Linux device, we will "protect" you from us." | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | quoted from https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3sbwyl/only_days_after_red_hat_legitimised_microsofts/ | Nov 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the threat just got removed | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | silent ban | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | well done, Reddit censorship | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | 33 comments, +33 votes | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | and they removed it, WTF? | Nov 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | "No, they really weren't, but the times and attitudes are so different today that the situations just aren't at all comparable." | Nov 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | "I'd rather not have any MS software in a distribution than see any Linux based company make deals with MS." | Nov 11 09:49 |
| schestowitz | "What? This isn't about MS software in any linux distro. It's about making sure the 2 OS's work well together, and support each other. This isn't about getting Microsoft Word and Cortana into Ubuntu, it's about making sure their server and cloud services run well together." | Nov 11 09:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/664347596136325120 | Nov 11 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz you made a mistake in your last Mozilla article, it is nightlabs.de not .com. Emailed Marco yesterday BTW :-) | Nov 11 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/664378061840883712 | Nov 11 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Snooper’s charter one misspelled Google search for ‘bong-making’ and you’ll be in an orange jumpsuit @schestowitz https://t.co/2YkaP52S2u | Nov 11 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theguardian.com | The snooper’s charter: one misspelled Google search for ‘bong-making’ and you’ll be in an orange jumpsuit | Frankie Boyle | Comment is free | The Guardian | Nov 11 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6798620 | Nov 11 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/663781514535174144 | Nov 11 10:22 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Snowden: Court affirmed 4th Amendment protections against NSA's mass surveillance, defending "the right to be left alone." https://t.co/JSgf3vpEYb | Nov 11 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Gone in a puff of logic." | Nov 11 10:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6802481 | Nov 11 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GPL Enforcement and the Trans-Pacific Partnershiphttps://sfconservancy.org/blog/2015/nov/09/gpl-tpp/ #gpl #copyleft #freesw #tpp | Nov 11 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz | That’s straight forward but we have seen folks like Bill Gates waste billions of everyone resources and time by arguing night is day. Where any confusion is possible, software owners will step in and bribe people to make bad decisions. | Nov 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Even the narrowest interpretation is bad news. It says governments can’t demand source code. That’s something governments should be doing, but I’m wondering, what is the actual situation people think that will happen? | Nov 11 10:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> sfconservancy.org | GPL Enforcement and the Trans-Pacific Partnership - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 11 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | I want to know how the text for there in the first place, but the process is so secretive that it may be impossible to know | Nov 11 10:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804283 | Nov 11 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #KDE #Plasma 5.4.3 is now available for #Kubuntu Wily (15.10) http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=424 might try these later... | Nov 11 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | "oh hi, roy" | Nov 11 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> wire.kubuntu.org | KDE Plasma 5.4.3 is now available for Kubuntu Wily (15.10) | Kubuntu Wire | Nov 11 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | 0/ ^_^ | Nov 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | “the idea is that for a full 24 hours, shoppers who are unmarried and unattached should go online and splurge on a nice gift for themselves.” | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | For me it’s called Christmas. | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6803230 | Nov 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Shopping Holiday | Nov 11 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 11 17:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804516 | Nov 11 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, I hate it when that happens." | Nov 11 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When powerful features get removed because "it might confuse people" you need to think who's really driving development & whether it's good | Nov 11 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | 'How do over-generalizations like this one add insight, except into the author’s prejudices? ;-)" | Nov 11 21:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804524 | Nov 11 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In my experience, people buy from #apple because they want to feel special (self-importance), so overpriced gadgets chosen [2/2] | Nov 11 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | "It might be a good prejudice" | Nov 11 21:40 |
| schestowitz | My sincere observation, when asking people why they choose the "i" thing... | Nov 11 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/664819096198991874 | Nov 12 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz ROTFL! | Nov 12 14:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/664819489477931008 | Nov 12 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz lol | Nov 12 14:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806665 | Nov 12 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to misleadingly frame #apple as 'ahead' of #android http://www.latinpost.com/articles/93917/20151111/ios-vs-android-market-share-news-android-6-0-marshmallow-trails-behind-massive-ios-9-adoption.htm 'creative' (selective) stats | Nov 12 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | "No, Schestowitz domination.' | Nov 12 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.latinpost.com | iOS vs Android Market Share News: Android 6.0 Marshmallow Trails Behind Massive iOS 9 Adoption : Business : Latin Post | Nov 12 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Mr. Dr. Roy, do you work alone? or are you a bot? I know I have made this question before but… | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | or you really are an alien? | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | "He works in intelligence." | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | "I think he is the Alibaba of Diaspora!' | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | China's Alibaba? | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806884 | Nov 12 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Six WordPress Plugins Vulnerable http://fossforce.com/2015/11/six-wordpress-plugins-vulnerable/ worth keeping track of... #security #wordpress | Nov 12 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | fixed in the latest version available, except for 1 of them. | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | it’s important to update his wordpress website. | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fossforce.com | Six WordPress Plugins Vulnerable | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/o9hle ] | Nov 12 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | Fortunately, I don't use any of these extensions | Nov 12 15:04 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah!" | Nov 12 15:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806665 | Nov 12 15:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Dominic Connor | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Chairman at Real Time Club | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Dominic Connor | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Chairman at Real Time Club | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | "I would like to invite you to join The Register Biting the hand that feeds IT on LinkedIn Groups. " | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | That's the term they use when they criticise Microsoft in El Reg these days | Nov 12 15:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/664835945070489600 | Nov 12 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ppetrovdotnet: @tqbf @schestowitz thats not even the point. #ethics is | Nov 12 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | CMU and ethics. See all its connections with the military industry... | Nov 12 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/664841465437274112 | Nov 12 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz I like @opera | Nov 12 16:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_S._Raymond&oldid=142179 | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rationalwiki.org | Eric S. Raymond - RationalWiki | Nov 12 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | To be fair, ESR’s talk about “SJWs” is crazy and the alleged groping is indefensible and confirmed by Jan. It’s reasonably clear that Microsoft and Intel are behind some of these attacks. ESR should know that and should watch out for bait that makes him look even crazier. He should also have never have groped anyone. Perhaps he will learn a lesson. | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I don’t think it’s going to get much traction outside of the Microsoft press. People have taken him to task for his crazy talk already and, as smear piece’s author notes, no one cared. The Rational Wiki pegged him crazy back in 2008. The sex stuff is gross and a turn off. It may turn off people who don’t know anything about free software in the first place but it’s not really going to undo what ESR has already accomplished or | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | get anyone to take him less seriously about technical matters, like his buffer bloat project. The cross section of people who both care about all the issues involve is a subset of a subset of a minority of the tech community. The larger technical community is bright enough to take what ESR might give while condemning the rest and hoping he changes his habits and attitudes towards people. | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6804450 | Nov 12 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It seems plausible that many of the recent media attacks on #torvalds - like #rms before him - are symptom of corporate takeover of (F)OSS | Nov 12 17:21 | |
| schestowitz | I think it's all distracting from the original subject, TBH. | Nov 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/russian-plane-crash-foreign-spies-rather-than-gchq-found-chatter-evidence-of-sinai-bomb-plot-a6727871.html | Nov 12 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Russian plane crash: Foreign spies, not GCHQ, found 'chatter' evidence of Sinai bomb plot | Africa | News | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/o9jey ] | Nov 12 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | "The revelation comes as the Western security services are rapidly stepping up their focus on the leading members of the Isis affiliate that calls itself Sinai Province. British sources named the group’s spiritual leader, Abu Osama al-Masri, as a “person of interest” on Sunday. Believed to be 42 and a former clothing importer, Masri studied at Cairo’s Al-Azhar University, considered the world’s most prestigious seat of learning | Nov 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz | for Sunni Islam. He is thought to have been born in north Sinai and grown up in Sharqiya in the Nile Delta – the birthplace of al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri and other high-profile jihadists. " | Nov 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/mounting-suspicions-sinai-plane-crash-russian-response | Nov 12 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Mounting suspicions over Sinai plane crash force Russian response | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/o9jhh ] | Nov 12 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/664933373366960128 | Nov 12 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: ironically, #Snooperscharter and its backdoors will lead to far more such attacks...well done, UK gov.... https://t.co/XGjx3uWC2p | Nov 12 22:49 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #torygraph as a megaphone for #gchq https://t.co/L6CkEp8Ro9 #uk #tories #surveillance #policeState | Nov 12 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/664933457110425601 | Nov 12 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SeaH2ONymph: #Obama could have ended govt’s dragnet collection of #Americans’ data instant he learned about it... but he didn't. https://t.co/pxlccjMjdT | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "Why did a liberal professor embrace the Bush surveillance state? Look to the law." https://t.co/yMwJY3N4Zw Posturing tyrant. Perfect cover. | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rougek68/status/664934942711877632 | Nov 12 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rougek68: @SeaH2ONymph My question to Schestowitz is... why does he use "#liberal" when the Government of #USA wed decades ago ? | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/664937668585914368 | Nov 12 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SeaH2ONymph: @SeaH2ONymph #NDAA: another #fascist law pushed through by #POTUS https://t.co/sH8nTCHKug | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.truthdig.com | Chris Hedges: The NDAA and the Death of the Democratic State - Chris Hedges - Truthdig | Nov 12 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BanksterBot/status/664938357722476544 | Nov 12 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BanksterBot: RT @schestowitz Banksters #MI6 and #GCHQ https://t.co/usrrGFcGwi #london #socialControl #classwar | Nov 12 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theguardian.com | Former spy chiefs to meet financiers at Gleneagles | UK news | The Guardian | Nov 12 22:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806825 | Nov 13 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Universities that work for the Army or militarised State Power https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/664497553224826880 #mit #cmu | Nov 13 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | "What people do for money." | Nov 13 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@emptywheel: @csoghoian How close is CMU's CERT to researchers? Remember they did data flow to ID Aaron Swartz at MIT. https://t.co/BrHRv9vsWt | Nov 13 01:51 | |
| schestowitz | High school teaches people to be good workers and that "success" is money | Nov 13 01:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6806484 | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I know the work of Eric Raymond and personally I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, he might be saying something true. On the other hand I do not know neither personally nor the work of the ones claiming harassment, and without witnesses I’m unwilling to believe. | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I think that here in the West IT is dominated by men, and there is a harassment issue that must be fixed to make it more friendly to women. But guess what? I have heard and witnessed places where women are the ones in power positions and there was sexual harassment towards men, but nobody talks about that. Why is that? | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 13 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Sexual harassment against mail is very uncommon, it's a distraction from the real issue at hand. Like raped men... | Nov 13 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 13 01:52 | |
| schestowitz | *against men | Nov 13 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | there was a problem at varnish at 12:05 gmt. I spotted it very quickly, found out the root cause, restarted varnish within less than 10 minutes of this problem starting and it's back in good shape | Nov 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html | Nov 13 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html ) | Nov 13 12:52 | |
| schestowitz | >> > A bit old by now, I think, unless there is something specific that's | Nov 13 12:52 |
| schestowitz | >> > very important in there. | Nov 13 12:52 |
| schestowitz | > Old but AFIAK released just recently. But fine to skip. | Nov 13 12:52 |
| schestowitz | No headline that I can use or story that I can make of it.. | Nov 13 12:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/665521328208764928 | Nov 14 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GeorgWebb: @quinnnorton @schestowitz Oh Paris isn't the city of needless provocation? Oh, just champagne now after you made your magazine sales. | Nov 14 13:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814427 | Nov 14 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #WarrenMitchell obituary: Alf Garnett and much more http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27046865#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa | Nov 14 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Great actor and character. Have just watched first seasons of The Saint series (Roger Moore). WM plays an italian taxi driver in some of them - GREAT! :D" | Nov 14 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bbc.co.uk | Warren Mitchell obituary: Alf Garnett and much more - BBC News [ http://ur1.ca/o9rga ] | Nov 14 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6813985 | Nov 14 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So we all know now that mass #surveillance can't stop attacks (so more of it can only make matters worse). Question is, what happens next? | Nov 14 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | "More mass surveillance, of course!" | Nov 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | This time it'll work, they promise.... | Nov 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814774 | Nov 14 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media, as always (included right after 9/11), makes terrorists famous (like bad celebs), not knowing it only encouraged them | Nov 14 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | "Maybe that is not an unintended result?" | Nov 14 22:12 |
| schestowitz | They don't seem to care about the end result | Nov 14 22:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814762 | Nov 14 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Non-French War Deaths Matter http://davidswanson.org/node/4979 makes a valid point | Nov 14 22:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> davidswanson.org | Non-French War Deaths Matter | Let's Try Democracy | Nov 14 22:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | “We are led to believe that U.S. wars are not tolerated and cheered because of the color or culture of the people being bombed and occupied. But let a relatively tiny number of people be murdered in a white, Christian, Western-European land, with a pro-war government, and suddenly sympathy is the order of the day.” | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | No one minds when the rival gang gets hit, the problem is when your gang is affected. | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Indeed. | Nov 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6803506 | Nov 14 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Netbeans and #Rust support in #Ubuntu Make 15.11 http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Netbeans-and-Rust-support-in-Ubuntu-Make-15.11 | Nov 14 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Note that it does NOT mean support for #rust in #netbeans. Only 2 separate news (ubuntu supports A and ubuntu supports B)." | Nov 14 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> blog.didrocks.fr | Netbeans and Rust support in Ubuntu Make 15.11 - DidRocks' blog | Nov 14 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | I guess this site is misinformed then | Nov 14 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814571 | Nov 14 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Koch Group Dumps Half Million Dollars in Florida Anti-Solar Campaign http://www.prwatch.org/news/2015/11/12975/Koch-Group-Dumps-Half-Million-Dollars-in-Florida-Anti-Solar-Campaign #capitalism at 'work' | Nov 14 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | "oh no, big bad koch bros at it again. i call bullshit" | Nov 14 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.prwatch.org | Koch Group Dumps Half Million Dollars in Florida Anti-Solar Campaign | PR Watch | Nov 14 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | PR Watch is reliable. So is there information that disputes this story?" | Nov 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | PR Watch is award-winning and accurate | Nov 14 22:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6813940 | Nov 14 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Listening and tracking devices good at listening to innocent law-abiding citizens; can't stop a single (among 6 simultaneous) terror attacks | Nov 14 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | "It’s stupid to think that a government can track every movement, though and interaction of every person in its territory. And if that is ever possible I would not like to live in a place like that." | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | "Of course human guards will have to be replaced by robots :-P | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | CCTV and a room with many monitors is one step towards that | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814085 | Nov 14 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I wonder what will happen sooner: Western politicians blaming #Putin because the killers used Kalashnikov rifles or @snowden for informing? | Nov 14 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | "They’ll blame both. “Clearly” the terrorists using Kalashnikovs was the fault of Putin “haboring” Snowden. cough" | Nov 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | "No, France will blame Syria, France has been looking for a pretext to invade Syria. It will be interesting to see how France deals with Russia on Syria now." | Nov 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | This was so obvious that had no merit guessing it: | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | http://cronostech.no-ip.org/posts/254643 | Nov 14 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cronostech.no-ip.org | ### #Paris #terror attack: Syrian #passport found on attacker was used to seek #asylum in #Greece | Nov 14 22:27 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Isn't France already involved to some extent in Syria? | Nov 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6812995 | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | @RKSS you will like this email I found on the OpenBSD mailing list for sure. Is this the kind of loyalty you expect from people? For some reason the MARC mailing list does not seem to be up today. | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:10:32 -0500 [06:10:32 CST] | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | From: Richard Thornton secularsolutionsllc@gmail.com | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | To: Francois Pussault fpussault@contactoffice.fr, Rod Whitworth glisten@witworx.com, misc@openbsd.org, Ryan Freeman ryan@slipgate.org | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Re: Paris… | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | France is screwed and perhaps Europe, translation, WWIII, unless they get their Muslim problem under control ASAP. Glad I don’t live there. Let’s not | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | forget Mr. Roy who went back home to Bangladesh for an award, or Van Gogh walking down a street in Amsterdam. Are France? and the few remaining Euro | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | fenchmen, finally ready to admit that they need to do what Israel has done? | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | But unfortunately, no they don’t and you will see this again, worse, soon. You don’t see these massacres in Switzerland do you? Wonder why? Had enough | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | yet France? | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G | Nov 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 14 22:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814823 | Nov 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firms of #Patent Lawyers Continue Their Battle to Restore Software Patentability in the United States http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/lawyers-find-loopholes/ #swpats | Nov 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s kind of like farmers planting a crop they will later harvest. ;-)" | Nov 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Nice analogy | Nov 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Firms of Patent Lawyers Continue Their Battle to Restore Software Patentability in the United States | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o9rhx ] | Nov 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6815880 | Nov 14 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't let War on Terror distract from the #classwar and the battles against #nhs , pensions, etc. Not to mention poor-shaming... | Nov 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | "Take a break, doc. You deserve a good rest | Nov 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Just had a 3-hour break in Rusholme | Nov 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6813041 | Nov 14 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lots of "Pray for Paris" & "Praying for Paris" as if it'll help after many already died. Wasn't prayer and religion attackers' motivator? | Nov 14 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | "" | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | It might be, but domestic terrorism or crime is a localized problem that a society broughts onto itself. When a country goes to bomb another one that’s a very different issue. | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Nowadays Japan is one of the safest places in the world, not thanks to imperialism. | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Japan has historically (long history) been very imperialistic and ruthless | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6814443 | Nov 14 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "man who discarded an item at the airport." http://www.sussex.police.uk/pressline/2015/11/14/police-dealing-with-incident-at-gatwick-airport #dailyfail created unnecessary panic over this #gatwick incident | Nov 14 22:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.sussex.police.uk | Media Centre - Sussex Police [ http://ur1.ca/o9ri0 ] | Nov 14 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | “Police were called at around 9.30am on Saturday morning (November 14) following suspicious actions by a man who discarded an item at the airport. The man was arrested” | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Someone call the police, I just discarded an item onto my kitchen’s bin! | Nov 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:38 |
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