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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014001894072320 https://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014349111140352  https://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014392232828928Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz Not a thing in the US, yet anyway.Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz Oh in my experience as a trans minority, more often it's misused by cis normatives to suppress those outside gender norms.Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz The term political correctness that is.Dec 13 12:23
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014487116365824Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz Which makes one wonder if it's more power grab.Dec 13 12:24
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/676018345250983936Dec 13 12:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@scruffy_crunch: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Facebook has been a privacy sieve since day 1. It's amazing to see how easily people let go of privacy #uninformedDec 13 12:42
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/676023055294967808Dec 13 13:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@scruffy_crunch: @schestowitz @All4Privacy This coming from a chick who circumvented the policies for secure email so she could get around it.Dec 13 13:03
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/676024454397362176Dec 13 13:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@scruffy_crunch: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Either out of convenience (her version) or out of not wanting her email surveilled (everyone else's version)Dec 13 13:03
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/676039174747721728Dec 13 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SeaH2ONymph: #Facebook's #BigSur: 'beast of a computer' for companies w/interests in voice & facial recognition technology https://t.co/IOfwC8a3U0Dec 13 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #openwashing of mass #surveillance machines https://t.co/2ZVxW3h6aW #facebookDec 13 14:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6910460Dec 13 19:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A referendum on GPL enforcement http://lwn.net/Articles/666369/ #gpl #gnuDec 13 19:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> lwn.net | A referendum on GPL enforcement [LWN.net]Dec 13 19:36
schestowitz"What a rude article."Dec 13 19:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6910299Dec 13 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: As there are so much companies foolish enough to give the CIA's 'Webmaster' (Amazon) their whole DB (sensitive data), why not Google too?Dec 13 19:37
schestowitz"If you are dumb enough to still be using Windows, you might as well hand your database to the CIA."Dec 13 19:37
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schestowitzThere are many clients' data (inc. passwords that are reused) on these databases, as well as credit cards and sometimes medical dataDec 13 19:37
schestowitz"This is good news, but we should remember that US Federal Law essentially requires all libraries, schools, hospitals, and many other organizations, to install internet filtering software on every network and computer. This means that no research done at a library is really private and that the exit node will be watched. We need to get rid of obnoxious laws like CIPA and teach people that software freedom is required for real privacy."Dec 13 19:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6910191Dec 13 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Congresswoman Asks Feds Why They Pressured a Library to Disable Its Tor Node http://motherboard.vice.com/read/congresswoman-asks-feds-why-they-pressured-a-library-to-disable-its-tor-node go Zoe! She's great. #tor #anonymityDec 13 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> motherboard.vice.com | Congresswoman Asks Feds Why They Pressured a Library to Disable Its Tor Node | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/occse ]Dec 13 19:38
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Internet_Protection_ActDec 13 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Children's Internet Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/occsf ]Dec 13 19:38
schestowitzI wonder if we have equivalent laws here....Dec 13 19:38
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schestowitz> I see you got a mention on Private Eye ..Dec 14 12:22
schestowitz> Dec 14 12:22
schestowitz> Techrights is down:Dec 14 12:22
schestowitz> Dec 14 12:22
schestowitz> ping techrights.org: From mail.copilotco.com (204.68.122.2) icmp_seq=1Dec 14 12:22
schestowitz> Destination Port UnreachableDec 14 12:22
schestowitzWeird. Maybe it's blocked where you are? What network are you on? We had no downtime today.Dec 14 12:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/676386474007359488Dec 14 13:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fth_nix: @schestowitz @glynco #whatHappenedToTheGoodGuys?Dec 14 13:11
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schestowitz> It's browsing ok now .. I'm on TalkcrapTalk .. are you on a CDN in theDec 14 18:11
schestowitz> "cloud". I have noticed some online mags going sluggish or timing out.Dec 14 18:11
schestowitz> This is since they moved to the 'Cloud' for efficiency, CloudFlare comeDec 14 18:11
schestowitz> to mind ..Dec 14 18:11
schestowitzIt's a privacy issue, among others..Dec 14 18:11
schestowitz>>> I see you got a mention on Private Eye ..Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz>  Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz>>> Techrights is down:Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz>  Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz>>> ping techrights.org: From mail.copilotco.com (204.68.122.2) icmp_seq=1Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz>>> Destination Port UnreachableDec 14 18:20
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz>> Weird. Maybe it's blocked where you are? What network are you on? We hadDec 14 18:20
schestowitz> no downtime today.Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz> It's browsing ok now .. I'm on TalkcrapTalk .. are you on a CMS in theDec 14 18:20
schestowitz> "cloud".Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz> $host techrights.orgDec 14 18:20
schestowitz> techrights.org has address 204.68.122.2Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:20
schestowitz> $ping 204.68.122.2Dec 14 18:21
schestowitz> From 204.68.122.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Port UnreachableDec 14 18:21
schestowitz> -------Dec 14 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:21
schestowitz> $ping  techrights.orgDec 14 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:21
schestowitz> PING techrights.org (204.68.122.2) 56(84) bytes of data.Dec 14 18:21
schestowitz> From mail.copilotco.com (204.68.122.2) icmp_seq=1 Destination PortDec 14 18:21
schestowitz> UnreachableDec 14 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 14 18:21
schestowitz> What's 'mail.copilotco.com'?Dec 14 18:21
schestowitzThat the server name. Let me know if you have any further issues, I'm trying to improve uptime these days... lots of crap attacks/DDOS.Dec 14 18:21
schestowitzRe: Mentioned on Private Eye ..Dec 14 18:21
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6912238Dec 14 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Interestingly enough, same legal firm which lobbies alongside #microsoft on the #patent front is the same one threatening me for #epo nowDec 14 18:26
schestowitz"EPO?"Dec 14 18:26
schestowitzYesDec 14 18:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6911671Dec 14 18:26
schestowitz"I remember there is a photo of Satoshi in inernet"Dec 14 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Desperately seeking Satoshi Nakamoto http://www.techcentral.co.za/desperately-seeking-satoshi-nakamoto/62028/ #bitcoin #financeDec 14 18:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techcentral.co.za | Desperately seeking Satoshi Nakamoto | TechCentral [ http://ur1.ca/ocetw ]Dec 14 18:27
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6912415Dec 14 19:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@shotgun_hammerhead@podricing.pw: It's that time of year again. #autumn #ends #frogs #settle #down #into #the #earthDec 14 19:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by shotgun_hammerhead@podricing.pw: https://podricing.pw/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f11f6a2bb1bf573e3d66.pngDec 14 19:51
schestowitzDon't do it.Dec 14 19:51
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6912415Dec 14 21:56
r_schestowitz"Nah, not this year."Dec 14 21:56
r_schestowitz"its only going to get hard as things get gooder"Dec 14 21:56
r_schestowitzLook and reach out to family for supportDec 14 21:56
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/techpearce2/status/676517812467318784Dec 14 21:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@techpearce2: Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (@schestowitz): Less #spyware in #ubuntu https://t.co/SNnRMqgVII https://t.co/rbeLDl3PW8Dec 14 21:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.whizzy.org | Online searches in the dash to be off by default. — whizzy.orgDec 14 21:57
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schestowitz> Roy,Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz>  Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Tomorrow, Mirantis will announce it has teamed with Palo Alto NetworksDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> to provide the industry's first support for VM-Series enterprise-classDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> security on OpenStack. This is a critical step for network functionDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> virtualization (NFV) on OpenStack.Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz>  Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> While OpenStack is a cloud platform, it does manage real servers thatDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> physically exist somewhere, and sends traffic on real networks. PrudentDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> technology executives should consider full defense in depth for realDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> security, using all the normal relevant security controls (firewalls,Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> IPS, anti-malware, WAD).Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz>  Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Mirantis' integration with this popular Palo Alto Networks firewallDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> solution (for VM and cloud apps) is a big step forward for organizationsDec 14 22:41
schestowitz> securing their OpenStack clouds in production environments.Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz>  Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> If you'd like to learn more, we can schedule a call with Mirantis executive.Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz>  Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> Dec 14 22:41
schestowitz> JoeDec 14 22:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/676538818644844544Dec 14 23:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@lordbaco: kill -9 systemd https://t.co/mDbXr2toClDec 14 23:07
schestowitzneed sudoDec 14 23:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #debian + #systemd = mess https://t.co/SXRjlwhCpa (Ordering mount points in Jessie (systemd < 220))Dec 14 23:07
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Danny__Crane/status/676539734391320577Dec 14 23:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Danny__Crane: @schestowitz @recuweb Dont conduct confidential matters,designs or Intellectual property on computers connected to internet.Dec 14 23:13
schestowitz> Oh man, not cool! Sorry about that Roy. You can call me Kylie if youDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> want - it's my worst nightmare :) Here are the details:Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> *Tomorrow at 8:00 am ET*, we're announcing three new silver members haveDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> joined the organization: Autodesk, Concurrent Computer Corporation andDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> DataKinetics.Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> More than 600 organizations now work across Linux Foundation-hostedDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> projects.Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> *On Thursday at 8:05 am ET*, we're announcing The Cloud Native ComputingDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Foundation (CNCF) as the newest Linux Foundation Collaborative Project.Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> You may recall that the intent to form the CNCF was announced earlierDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> this year at OSCON.  The Collaborative Project focuses on development ofDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> open source technologies, reference architectures and shared standardsDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> for Cloud native applications or services. This work provides theDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> necessary infrastructure for Internet companies and enterprises to scaleDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> their businesses.Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> More than 40 companies are committed to CNCF, including new membersDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Apprenda, Apcera, ClusterHQ, Container Solutions,  Datawise.io, Deis,Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Inc/Engine Yard, Eldarion, Fujitsu, iguaz.io <http://iguaz.io/>,Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Infoblox, ISHI Systems,NCSOFT, NEC Corporation, NetApp, NGINX, Portworx,Dec 14 23:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iguaz.io | iguazio | Volume.Velocity.VarietyDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Rancher Labs, RX-M, LLC, Scalock, Software Engineering Lab of ZhejiangDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> University, Twistlock and Williams Garcia.Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Full announcements follow my signature with re-confirmation of embargoDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> lifts. Happy to answer any questions you may have.Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Thanks again!Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> KyleDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> -- Dec 14 23:25
schestowitz> Kyle DonovanDec 14 23:25
schestowitz> The Linux FoundationDec 14 23:25
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450134315362Dec 14 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to Eponia [ http://ur1.ca/ocfbm ]Dec 14 23:32
schestowitz"Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzTN205: "Nobody knows (and will never know) what the EPO pays exactly to the delegations for dental issues. Does the EPO pay sometimes 50 Euros (then nobody will complain) or does the EPO pay 20000 Euros to some delegates?"Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzQuite so. Nobody knows. There is no evidence.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzExcept that we do know that this dental insurance is only provided to AC delegates "when attending meetings of the Council and its sub-bodies or any event upon invitation by the Office". Not at any other time. That's consistent with 50 Euro travel insurance.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzAnd we do know that it is the same dental insurance that is provided for non-delegate "experts" who are invited to assist at AC or EPO meetings. That's also consistent with 50 Euro travel insurance.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzAnd we do know that it is part of a package which provides only "urgent" medical treatment. 50 Euro travel insurance, again.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzWe know all this from the same AC minutes which cause some people to assume that the dental insurance must be a 20000 Euro "sweetener".Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzSo why do those people assume that?Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzWell, their only "evidence" is that the minutes say "urgent medical treatment and dental treatment". This is ambiguous. Simply as a matter of English language, the word "urgent" might apply to both the medical treatment and the dental treatment. Or it might not.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzI wonder if the minute-writer's first language was not English? Had he or she instead written "urgent medical and dental treatment", then nobody would have blinked an eyelid.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzAs it is, the language is ambiguous. There is no evidence to prove a 20000 Euro sweetener. So we have to look for other clues. As set out above, the only other available clues suggest (but do not prove) that it is 50 Euro travel insurance.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzAs TN205 says, nobody would complain about 50 Euros. In fact, it seems to be an obligation under Article 16 RPAC to pay the delegate's travel expenses. Maybe the biggest surprise is that such travel insurance was not provided before.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzYet with no further evidence, some people pick up this linguistic ambiguity, and present it as a huge scandal. Sorry, but unless you've got more than that, I call that poor behaviour. Look up Hanlon's razor. If you want to make a serious accusation like corruption, it's your job to prove it's 20000 Euros, not mine to prove it's only a 50 Euro travel insurance policy.Dec 14 23:32
schestowitzAnd I'll repeat: yes the EPO management is also guilty of poor behaviour. But if you want people to believe you about that, you need to ditch the unbelievable allegations which have no evidence.Dec 14 23:33
schestowitz'Dec 14 23:33
schestowitz"Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzOn an irrelevant thread under the IPKat the following was posted:Dec 14 23:33
schestowitz“Bringbackalib said...Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzRenewal fees are well spent,last week 2 QCs were flown in to Eponia to help dismiss a misguided Eponian !!!!!!Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzMonday, 14 December 2015 at 17:24:00 GMT”Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzAlthough it is almost cryptic to me (a simple European Patent Attorney watching in horrified amazement) I believe it belongs here.Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzAre we to understand that a dismissal of an EPO staff member has occurred? In view of the EPO's purported independence of any jurisdiction, what are QC's needed for? Is it official UK Government business or is it on a private matter? Moonlighting?Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzKind regards,Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzGeorge Brock-Nannestad Dec 14 23:33
schestowitz"Dec 14 23:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6911671Dec 14 23:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Desperately seeking Satoshi Nakamoto http://www.techcentral.co.za/desperately-seeking-satoshi-nakamoto/62028/ #bitcoin #financeDec 14 23:36
schestowitz"There was a guy, a while back, who they thought was the real Nakomoto. However, if he’s the one you’re thinking of, I think he was generally thought, after a while, to not be the real one."Dec 14 23:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techcentral.co.za | Desperately seeking Satoshi Nakamoto | TechCentral [ http://ur1.ca/ocetw ]Dec 14 23:36
schestowitzYeahDec 14 23:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6912415Dec 14 23:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@shotgun_hammerhead@podricing.pw: It's that time of year again. #autumn #ends #frogs #settle #down #into #the #earthDec 14 23:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by shotgun_hammerhead@podricing.pw: https://podricing.pw/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f11f6a2bb1bf573e3d66.pngDec 14 23:37
schestowitz"We all need some body to lean on"Dec 14 23:37
schestowitz"There’s a guy, who can help you:'Dec 14 23:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SMCADMAN/status/676578114613317633Dec 15 01:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sorry, you are not authorized to see this status.Dec 15 01:48
schestowitz"Dec 15 01:48
schestowitz6 minutes agoDec 15 01:48
schestowitz@schestowitz @FrancisJeffrey7 O_O by whom/what?Dec 15 01:48
schestowitz"Dec 15 01:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/676704029137858560Dec 15 10:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: the greed and stupidity here is staggering... #water https://t.co/F6MiftkjZyDec 15 10:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "It took tens of thousands of years to accumulate this water, and we’re burning through it in a matter of decades." https://t.co/RtuoZKbFmEDec 15 10:09
schestowitz> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/cybersecurity-researchers-are-hunted-from-all-sidesDec 15 10:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-motherboard.vice.com | Cybersecurity Researchers Are Hunted from All Sides | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/ocg5j ]Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> ==Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/north-carolina-citizenry-defeat-pernicious-big-solar-plan-to-suck-up-the-sun/Dec 15 10:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | North Carolina citizenry defeat pernicious Big Solar plan to suck up the Sun | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ocg5k ]Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> ==Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> olderDec 15 10:23
schestowitz> Dec 15 10:23
schestowitz> http://www.theonion.com/article/koch-brothers-get-each-other-same-election-christm-52012Dec 15 10:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theonion.com | Koch Brothers Get Each Other Same Election For Christmas - The Onion - America's Finest News Source [ http://ur1.ca/ocg5l ]Dec 15 10:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/paulhindes/status/676707732196577280Dec 15 10:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@paulhindes: Faster than expected, the US is running out of fresh water. Terrifying. https://t.co/NmqjD4jbRyDec 15 10:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/demindblower/status/676709464217636864Dec 15 10:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@demindblower: Neo liberal Greed https://t.co/o4iGaTCUh9Dec 15 10:26
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/all-due-care-when-not-responsible-for.html?showComment=1450173914672Dec 15 10:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: "All due care" when not responsible for renewals [ http://ur1.ca/ocg64 ]Dec 15 10:30
schestowitz"    An absurd decision? Anonymous, if you are in the business of filing applications, rather than an EPO employee, I suggest you always employ the services of a qualified attorney because that is a spectacular misreading of the decision. It most certainly does not tie the duty of care to the ability to charge in the way you say it does or favour foreign applicants."Dec 15 10:30
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450168481533Dec 15 10:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to Eponia [ http://ur1.ca/ocg68 ]Dec 15 10:31
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzGeorge, I know no more than you about the rumour of these two QCs, so this is pure speculation.Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzMaybe there have been further oral proceedings in the case of the suspended Board of Appeal member? Maybe the AC saw the cock-up last time, when the lawyers from DG5 didn't understand the Enlarged Board's Rules of Procedure? So maybe they decided that they should instruct better lawyers this time?Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzOf course, under the President's proposal CA/98/15, in future the lawyers from DG5 will themselves write the Enlarged Board's Rules of Procedure. So there will then be no possibility of a cock-up. No need for expensive QCs! Efficiency will reign! Independence will triumph!Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzEr....Dec 15 10:31
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:31
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzSpeculator,Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzI understand from a Suepo report that it was one QC and one barrister in one of the cases involving a union committee member. Of course, the defendant isn't allowed to tell you that as the proceedings are 'confidential'. Dec 15 10:31
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:31
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:31
schestowitz@DisheartenedDec 15 10:31
schestowitzYou said: ”Yet with no further evidence, some people pick up this linguistic ambiguity, and present it as a huge scandal. Sorry, but unless you've got more than that, I call that poor behaviour. Look up Hanlon's razor. If you want to make a serious accusation like corruption, it's your job to prove it's 20000 Euros, not mine to prove it's only a 50 Euro travel insurance policy.”Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzSorry, but you do not prove it's only a 50 Euro travel insurance policy. Where did you read this information?Dec 15 10:31
schestowitzIn December 2014 (one year ago), this dental issue was pointed by Foss Patents http://www.fosspatents.com/2014/12/european-patent-office-pays-for-health.htmlDec 15 10:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: European Patent Office pays for health insurance of members of its oversight body, staff union says [ http://ur1.ca/ocg6b ]Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzIn June 2015, Foss Patents made a parallel EPO-FIFA and pointed again the dental issue http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/06/striking-structural-parallels-between.htmlDec 15 10:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Striking structural parallels between the European Patent Office and soccer body FIFA [ http://ur1.ca/ocg6c ]Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzWhat has been done by the EPO to clarify the dental issue after one year?Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzNothing. As you see the ambiguity is not only linguistic.Dec 15 10:32
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:32
schestowitz"    The two QC's were flown in for the show trial of a staff representative who is in all likelihood about to receive notification of dismissal from Ebeneezer Scroogitelli just in time for Christmas."Dec 15 10:32
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:32
schestowitz"If you want to make a serious accusation like corruption, it's your job to prove it's 20000 Euros, not mine to prove it's only a 50 Euro travel insurance policy.”"Dec 15 10:32
schestowitz@DisheartenedDec 15 10:32
schestowitzMaybe you didn't realise that "proving" allegations of financial irregularity at the EPO is a logical impossibility. No "corruption" can possibly exist because there is no effective oversight to expose it if did. That's the wonderful world of Eponia for you.Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzBB took care of all that by abolishing the EPO's external audit committee back in 2011.Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2014/10/31/brimelow-and-battistelli/Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzOr to be more precise:Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzTHE ADMINISTRATIVE COUNCIL ABOLISHED ITS OWN EXTERNAL AUDIT COMMITTEE AT THE BEHEST OF BATTISTELLI !!!Dec 15 10:32
schestowitzBut, hey, everybody let's not upset Disheartened.Dec 15 10:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The EPO Is More Corrupt Under Battistelli Than Under Alison Brimelow: Part VIII | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/inahy ]Dec 15 10:33
schestowitzPlease try to avoid any topic or Topic that might risk bringing PUBLIC SHAME upon the Administrative Council for their apparent complicity in the alleged misgovernance of the EPO. Dec 15 10:33
schestowitz"Dec 15 10:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fflandro/status/676710822345842688Dec 15 10:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fflandro: @schestowitz btw, Trump is paying his own way.Dec 15 10:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/adamshermanesq/status/676734034307891201Dec 15 12:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@adamshermanesq: @schestowitz @USATODAY Watch Cowspiracy on Netflix. @CowspiracyDec 15 12:03
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schestowitz"Awesome. I love this project. Just not that license though. And also it has proprietary blobs in it. But yeah know. It had the PoorMan web server which is just cool. :)"Dec 15 14:07
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6913359Dec 15 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Haiku OS gets some #gnu http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Haiku-OS-GCC5 #gcc #compiler #freeswDec 15 14:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.phoronix.com | Haiku OS Adds GCC 5 Compiler Packages - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/ocghx ]Dec 15 14:07
schestowitz"Does it use OpenStreetMap?"Dec 15 14:08
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6913349Dec 15 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNOME Maps 3.20 Is Going to Be a Really Big Update http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-maps-3-20-is-going-to-be-a-really-big-update-497582.shtml #gnu #linux #freeswDec 15 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | GNOME Maps 3.20 Is Going to Be a Really Big Update [ http://ur1.ca/ocgi1 ]Dec 15 14:08
schestowitzYesDec 15 14:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450173039234#c863097125975600495Dec 15 14:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to Eponia [ http://ur1.ca/ocgj5 ]Dec 15 14:22
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:22
schestowitz"If you want to make a serious accusation like corruption, it's your job to prove it's 20000 Euros, not mine to prove it's only a 50 Euro travel insurance policy.”"Dec 15 14:22
schestowitz@DisheartenedDec 15 14:22
schestowitzMaybe you didn't realise that "proving" allegations of financial irregularity at the EPO is a logical impossibility. No "corruption" can possibly exist because there is no effective oversight to expose it if did. That's the wonderful world of Eponia for you.Dec 15 14:22
schestowitzBB took care of all that by abolishing the EPO's external audit committee back in 2011.Dec 15 14:22
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2014/10/31/brimelow-and-battistelli/Dec 15 14:22
schestowitzOr to be more precise:Dec 15 14:22
schestowitzTHE ADMINISTRATIVE COUNCIL ABOLISHED ITS OWN EXTERNAL AUDIT COMMITTEE AT THE BEHEST OF BATTISTELLI !!!Dec 15 14:22
schestowitzBut, hey, everybody let's not upset Disheartened.Dec 15 14:22
schestowitzPlease try to avoid any topic or Topic that might risk bringing PUBLIC SHAME upon the Administrative Council for their apparent complicity in the alleged misgovernance of the EPO. Dec 15 14:22
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:22
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:24
schestowitz On a further point of order:Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzThe "dental issue" is not a non-issue.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzIt is actually highly significant.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzAccording to this very recent report on FOSS patents, it appeared on the charge sheet against one of the suspended staff representatives:Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzhttp://www.fosspatents.com/2015/12/why-would-patent-office-be-afraid-of.htmlDec 15 14:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Why would a patent office be afraid of bloggers? Only if it has something to hide. Like the EPO. [ http://ur1.ca/ocgjg ]Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzAs we can see Bully Boy is not targeting the blog which commented on the matter in somewhat cautious and circumspect terms.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzOh no ! He's already burned his fingers badly with the TechRights affair which has in the meantime made it on to the pages of Private Eye.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzInstead he has decided to target a staff representative who is "alleged" to have been responsible for leaking to the blog operator the details of something which can be found in the non-confidential minutes of the Administrative Council meeting referred to above.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzBB doesn't have any evidence to prove his allegations that would stand up in the proverbial "court of law". But he doesn't need that because he has a "disciplinary committee" stuffed with his obedient stooges.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzThat's how BB operates.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzAnd he is "protected" by his "friends" in the Council.Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzBut please refrain from using the word "Mafia" unless you are talking about SUEPO !Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzAnd remember that only people raising allegations against BB have to produce evidence. He and his obedient cohorts are "immune" from such mundane technicalities. Dec 15 14:24
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:24
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450180635803#c9012144979582383223Dec 15 14:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to Eponia [ http://ur1.ca/ocgjj ]Dec 15 14:25
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:25
schestowitzRumpole writes:Dec 15 14:25
schestowitz"The two QC's were flown in for the show trial of a staff representative"Dec 15 14:25
schestowitzMy thought: If there is anything taking place that purports to be a "trial" it sure as heck ain't a "Show Trial". The whole point of a "Show Trial" is to "show" the world the "trial". In EPOnia trials, it's the exact opposite.Dec 15 14:25
schestowitzEnglish QC's are officers of the English court and have a centuries-old tradition of defending the Rule of Law and victims of dictators around the world who trash the Rule of Law. I hope any English QC, flown in to Munich from London (the "Libel Capital" of the world) will think carefully about whether their work in Munich is compatible with their professional vows and Rules of Conduct.Dec 15 14:25
schestowitzEver-optimistic, I remain hopeful that the English lawyers are taking their fees for educating the EPO's in-house legal officers (I refrain from calling them "lawyers") on what English law is all about. They will do that expertly. But whether what they have to say will be heard is another matter. Dec 15 14:25
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:25
schestowitz"    Is it too much to hope that the QCs involved will honour their professional commitments to independence, fairness, and the rights of the respective parties, beyond the strict letter of the law? Strangely, it's a bit of a job to find references to this on the Bar Standards Board's website, although they are generally expected."Dec 15 14:25
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:28
schestowitz    An interesting way of solving the Boards' problems is proposed here:Dec 15 14:28
schestowitz    http://kluwerpatentblog.com/2015/12/14/der-tod-das-muss-ein-wiener-sein-will-georg-kreislers-famous-song-be-the-writing-on-the-wall-for-the-epos-boards-of-appeal/Dec 15 14:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-kluwerpatentblog.com | DER TOD, DAS MUSS EIN WIENER SEIN – Will Georg Kreisler’s Famous Song be the Writing on the Wall for the EPO’s Boards of Appeal? | Kluwer Patent Blog [ http://ur1.ca/ocgjo ]Dec 15 14:28
schestowitz"Dec 15 14:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/676797954750087168Dec 15 17:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: This from nowhere to run or hide dept: EFF says DEA has deleted phone DB. But there's still the NSA. https://t.co/2C0quGbEik @schestowitzDec 15 17:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.engadget.com | EFF confirms that the DEA has deleted its phone call databaseDec 15 17:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/676821314645135361Dec 15 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: Are Eur. Parliam. or Eur. Patent Office doing these things?? @ilgiornale @fattoquotidiano @reportrai3 @byoblu https://t.co/y4cgo7UwHGDec 15 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "The IP 136.173.62.145 has just been banned by Fail2Ban after 181 attempts against VARNISH. [...] address: European Parliament" #epoDec 15 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/676821481276485632Dec 15 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: 2/ Are Eur. Parliam. or Eur. Patent Office doing these things?? @ilgiornale @fattoquotidiano @reportrai3 @byoblu https://t.co/9VVdtcEsUfDec 15 17:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Not sure if European Parliament mass-downloading articles from #techrights a sign of progress/action or something more malicious. #epoDec 15 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/676821972681142276Dec 15 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: @altalex @POLITICOEurope @wallstreetita @byoblu @reportrai3 @Laura_F_ERCOLI @Serv_Pubblico @fattoquotidiano https://t.co/wS0UOLE5N8Dec 15 18:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents When Europe's Leading Patent Litigators Get Fed Up With Benoît #Battistelli and Want Him Sent to Exile https://t.co/CLK87ueLyUDec 15 18:08
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450200759331#c8765131933552628110Dec 15 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to EponiaDec 15 18:57
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:57
schestowitz I think all of the issues here really come down to one problem, lack of transparency.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzThere is no transparency about expenses, either of the AC or the management. Ask the UK parliament where that can get you.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzThere is no transparency about senior appointments, hence the allegations of nepotism and cronyism against senior management.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzThere is no transparency about reform. Proposals arrive out of thin air, ignoring all advice from those who might have a legitimate view, and are then rubber stamped in closed meetings.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzThere is no transparency in staff relations with gagging clauses, threats of dismissal, clandestine surveillance and expensive PR campaigns deliberately clouding the issues.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzIn fact all of the recent reforms have worked to reduce any transparency there may have once been with.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzUnfortunately I do not see anything changing until the AC realise that without transparency an organisation is destined to become seen as corrupt, whatever the reality may be. Dec 15 18:57
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:57
schestowitzBSDec 15 18:57
schestowitzIt's not all down to transparencyDec 15 18:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/redlocal/status/676836232505217025Dec 15 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@redlocal: #elementaryOS #Freya 0.3.2 https://t.co/xZwh2xaGa6 looks quite a promising #gnu #linux distribution/OS. https://t.co/tXDWlJbtArDec 15 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linuxbsdos.com | elementary OS Freya 0.3.2 screenshots | LinuxBSDos.comDec 15 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #elementaryOS #Freya 0.3.2 https://t.co/mLVkltOro6 looks quite a promising #gnu #linux distribution/OS.Dec 15 18:57
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzTo anonymous, who would like to become an examiner….I would leave it awhile until we see if anything or anybody can intervene in the present nightmare.Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzYes, it is true that the President has proposed that he is give the power to veto employment after one leaves the office. Of course he cannot force anyone to fire you, but he can withdraw any benefits you might have accrued from your EPO service, such as entitlement to a pension, or the return of your contributions if you have worked for less than 10 years. The only judicial instance available to you will take a decade to render a Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzdecision, which will probably not be in your favor. The EPO exists in a legal vacuum, and in space, no-one can hear you scream. Dec 15 18:58
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:58
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzEver-optimistic, I remain hopeful that the English lawyers are taking their fees for educating the EPO's in-house legal officers (I refrain from calling them "lawyers") on what English law is all about. They will do that expertly. But whether what they have to say will be heard is another matter.Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzPray tell what has English law got to do with Eponia ?Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzThe EPO's in-house legal officers are under the control of a former German judge who knows far better than any English lawyer how a legal vacuum functions. He's been running one successfully for quite a number of years now and was recently reappointed by the AC despite the fact that he has reached retirement age.Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzFar more likely that the English lawyers will trouser the money and laugh all the way to the bank.Dec 15 18:58
schestowitzNo skin off their nose if some poor staff rep gets the chop on the basis of some trumped-up charges from Ubustelli Roi with their "expert pleadings" forming the icing on the cake.Dec 15 18:59
schestowitzI don't see any form of legal redress available to the adversely affected party in such a case.Dec 15 18:59
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:59
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:59
schestowitz    "Our clients need an EPO that works."Dec 15 18:59
schestowitz    Well EPO is not responsible in front of a court, so there is no procedure if the EPO does not work.Dec 15 18:59
schestowitz    That's why it needs to be dissolved, or reintegrated in other democratic structures.Dec 15 18:59
schestowitz"Dec 15 18:59
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450218352589#c318980022071999874Dec 15 23:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to EponiaDec 15 23:04
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:04
schestowitz@future examiner:Dec 15 23:04
schestowitzRegarding working elsewhere after leaving the office, go toDec 15 23:05
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.de/2015/12/boards-of-appeal-tell-ac-we-were-never.htmlDec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.de | The IPKat: Boards of Appeal tell AC: we were never consultedDec 15 23:05
schestowitzand click on the link at the last word of "an updated proposal addressed to the AC, which is attached here" (pages 7-11).Dec 15 23:05
schestowitzRegarding lowering the pensions, you do not have any recourse. You can file an internal request for review, then an internal appeal, then go to the ILOAT. However, that takes many years and none of the decisions are binding to the office, just as little as rulings of ANY other court. Any judgements can be ignored and are ignored, see for exampleDec 15 23:05
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.de/2015/02/the-epo-privileged-and-immune-says_24.html.Dec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.de | The IPKat: The EPO: privileged and immune says the PresidentDec 15 23:05
schestowitzAt the European Patent Office, you do not get a working contract. Instead you are employed according to the rules of the EPO "Codex" which the EPO can change unilaterally whenever and however the EPO likes.Dec 15 23:05
schestowitzBefore considering joining the office, I would strongly recommend you to carefully read:Dec 15 23:05
schestowitz1.) the other articles here at IPKat about the EPODec 15 23:05
schestowitz2.) http://techrights.org/2015/09/22/investigative-unit-gestapo/Dec 15 23:05
schestowitz3.) https://www.google.de/search?q=european+patent+office+eponiaDec 15 23:05
schestowitz4.) https://www.google.de/search?q=european+patent+office+fosspatentsDec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Dutch Politician John Kerstens Says EPO Investigative Unit is Called ‘the Gestapo’ | TechrightsDec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.google.de | european patent office eponia - Google-SucheDec 15 23:05
schestowitz5.) https://www.google.de/search?q=european+patent+office+techrightsDec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.google.de | european patent office fosspatents - Google-SucheDec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.google.de | european patent office techrights - Google-SucheDec 15 23:05
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:05
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitzTHE US anon said...Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    MaxDrei,Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    In your haste to accuse me of not understanding, perhaps you yourself are the one that is not understanding.Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    I invite you to take some time to read the words I actually use.Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Yes, I do recognize that the oath taken is for matters within that sovereign.Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Do you understand that? Do you not see that I am pointing out matters being followed OUTSIDE of that sovereign?Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Try again (or for the first time).Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz@NotsooptimistixDec 15 23:06
schestowitzThe part of English law which deals with human rights and the rule of law, which are universal and, despite the lacuna which BB claims, apply , or should apply, to the whole of the EPO, is very relevant, and provided that our learnéd friends hold to their professional obligations, will be very well expresses by them. I hope. Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitzCheerleader said...Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Do you understand that? Do you not see that I am pointing out matters being followed OUTSIDE of that sovereign?Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Damn right you transatlantic interloper ... sock it to 'im ...Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    The Max-Bubi obviously hasn't twigged the fact that the London QCs didn't travel to Munich. They temporarily disappeared inside a singularity in the legal space-time continuum (colloquially known in these parts as Eponia).Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Just like the Max-Bubi can be spied on by BB every time he enters EPO premises.Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Let him try to obtain redress for that before a German court.Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    That will soften his cough for him.Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:06
schestowitzMaxDrei said...Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    As to the issue of the English barristers, are they mercenaries lacking any scruples and just waiting to be hired by whoever offers enough money? Or are they members of an honorable profession with its own Rules of Conduct?Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Imagine you are a surgeon. Your job is to save lives. But then some absolute ruler of some foreign State (let's call it Eponia) learns of your exquisite reputation and wants to hire you to perform nefarious deadly experiments on selected citizens of Eponia who are unfortunate enough to have come to the attention of the authorities of Eponia. Do you take the money and do the experiments? Or do your Rules of Conduct (and your conscienceDec 15 23:06
schestowitz give you pause?Dec 15 23:06
schestowitz    Or are lawyers not comparable with doctors?Dec 15 23:07
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:07
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:08
schestowitzWhat a laugh said...Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    As to the issue of the English barristers, are they mercenaries lacking any scruples and just waiting to be hired by whoever offers enough money? Or are they members of an honorable profession with its own Rules of Conduct?Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    ...Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Or are lawyers not comparable with doctors?Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Lawyers comparable with doctors ??? What planet do you live on ???Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    I would be inclined to put them in the same category as "hired guns" of Control Risks. Simply used by BB to add a veneer of sophisticated "British respectibility" to his nefarious goings on.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Control Risks were hired to prepare the charge-sheet and the barristers were hired to plead the case for dismissal. Good for the UK economy but not much else. It's that simple.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    So now BB can say:Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    "Look here, we engaged the best British mercenaries ... pardon professionals ... to perform our investigation. Then we used the finest silks from London to plead our case for us. What greater respect could we have shown for the human rights of our staff. Of course, the accused people were guilty to begin with so we could have been much nastier but we did it all in such an eminently civilised manner ...Nobody was waterboarded ... not Dec 15 23:08
schestowitzyet anyway ..."Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Or some such absurd twaddle which nobody apart from himself (and a few numpties on the AC) will actually take seriously.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    And to conclude:Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    "... if they don't like it they can always appeal to the ILOAT. We'll all probably be dead by the time the judgment is delivered from that quarter so quite frankly my dear ...."Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:08
schestowitzTHE US anon said...Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    What's not comparable is your LACK of understanding as to what duty WITHIN a sovereign means, my dear MaxDrei.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Let me provide a ready example (and instantly recognizable to any States-side savvy individual).Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Here in the States, the comparable duty is (by and large, but there are exceptions) driven by individual States oaths.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Having sworn in, let's say New York, I am simply NOT permitted to practice law in another State, say, California.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Let's modify the example a tad, and say that I have been successful at passing multiple state bar exams, and have been sworn in in several states.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    Let's also say that State Chaos forbids an item that State Confusion permits. Do you think that I violate my "duty" in State Chaos, if, while I am in State Confusion, practice that very thing that State Chaos forbids?Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    I say thee nay.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz    (or is that neigh ;-) )Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:08
schestowitzI think it is possible big companies would say something. Most patent departments are run by patent attorneys who are fairly similar to their counterparts in private practice. It is jut not a priority and it is too confusing to know what is going on. I would suggest that those concerned put together a short concise summary explaining what the issues are and how it will effect big companies.Dec 15 23:08
schestowitzMaintaining independence and quality of the boards of appeal, quality of examination or retaining experienced examiners are things big companies may be concerned about. Abstract human rights in employment, culture of fear etc less so because they do not impact the companies directly and anyway many in-house attorneys, in US at least, do not have much job security and are used to large corporations were the CEOs are very powerful and in Dec 15 23:08
schestowitzsome cases can be quite autocratic. Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:08
schestowitz"    Re. The English barristers - one is very eminent and famous for a very high profile public interest case. But of course, barristers, despite the public misconception, work on a cab rank principle so that they may be experts on a subject or area but can represent either side. They present a case to the best of their ability while respecting the law. Doing right is not their task - they present their clients case as well as they can. Dec 15 23:09
schestowitzNo more, no less."Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:09
schestowitzThe Cat that Walks by Himself said...Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz    I wonder already for quite some while about the followingDec 15 23:09
schestowitz    "Article 3 Protocol on Privileges and Immunities of the European Patent OrganisationDec 15 23:09
schestowitz    (1)Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz    Within the scope of its official activities the Organisation shall have immunity from jurisdiction and execution, except […]"Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz    It would be interesting to see a construction of this range by the EBoA or a national court.Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz    Especially in view ofDec 15 23:09
schestowitz    "Article 4[ 3 ]Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz    European Patent OrganisationDec 15 23:09
schestowitz    [...]Dec 15 23:09
schestowitz    (3)Dec 15 23:10
schestowitz    The task of the Organisation shall be to grant European patents. This shall be carried out by the European Patent Office supervised by the Administrative Council. "Dec 15 23:10
schestowitz    In principle, the scope of EPO immunity can be delimited by the argument that certain activities are not necessary or not proportional to the talks assigned to the Organisation, i.e. grant of European patents.Dec 15 23:10
schestowitz    It also can be argued that in case the EPC does not provide a sufficiently clear legal basis for certain activities or powers, the EPO should rely on Member States with respect to those powers. Any EPO powers are just a branch at the tree of the state sovereignty. If something is not clearly given in the EPC, it's because these functions/powers belong to another branch of the tree. Reshaping a branch is a matter of the tree, in due Dec 15 23:10
schestowitztime ...Dec 15 23:10
schestowitz"Dec 15 23:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/676916475618328581Dec 16 00:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Correct URL for my article is https://t.co/POBkgPVHok :)Dec 16 00:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.softpedia.com | Mozilla Firefox 43.0 Officially Released for GNU/Linux Without GTK3 SupportDec 16 00:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/676923646808612864Dec 16 00:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz True!Dec 16 00:39
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ellen_Timmer/status/677104235587219459Dec 16 12:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ellen_Timmer: De Grote Verleidingen van de Digitale Eeuw #zielaandeduivelverkopen https://t.co/9hFpkcryFZDec 16 12:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #nectar is malicious. In the #uk those spies (selling data on one's purchases) now offer incentive for people to install TRACKING app!Dec 16 12:35
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/merpel-pays-brief-visit-to-eponia.html?showComment=1450305702104Dec 17 09:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Merpel pays a brief visit to Eponia [ http://ur1.ca/ockma ]Dec 17 09:29
schestowitz"Dec 17 09:29
schestowitz @ Barbarosa 16:01Dec 17 09:29
schestowitzYour last comment is really going too far, and whatever side of the cause you take, it really does nobody any good at all and perhaps you should take your own advice to think twice, particularly about the context.Dec 17 09:29
schestowitzThe situation in the EPO really is one of the absence of both employment rights and human rights which most of us take for granted. There are those in many of our countries who believe that the existence of such rights, and the protection that they afford, is spurious, an affront to sovereignty, a restriction on progress, and that their absence would cause no harms to any citizens. If nothing else, the EPO's current situation is an Dec 17 09:29
schestowitzexperiment which proves, should proof ever be needed, that such people and beliefs are wholly misplaced. There really is no such thing as a benign dictatorship - Lady Astor's comment has already been quoted here.Dec 17 09:29
schestowitzIt is obvious that there are various sock puppets commenting on this blog, one can speculate on who they are. But some are clearly attempting to defend the indefensible. Were they in any of the EPO's member states, they and their masters would certainly not be behaving as they are, and would actively and forcefully be prevented from doing so.Dec 17 09:29
schestowitzBut stupid, thoughtless and offensive comments don't contribute anything. Dec 17 09:29
schestowitz"Dec 17 09:29
schestowitz"    Keep an eye out for a letter from the VIE, the Dutch division of AIPPI (AIPPI.nl), sent to the Administrative Council and which denounces Battistelli's style of management. It couldn't be clearer and (unless it's written off as the 'enemy without' or another mafia) must be adding pressure.Dec 17 09:29
schestowitz"Dec 17 09:29
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schestowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5574479&postID=5205293627419117961&isPopup=trueDec 17 21:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.blogger.com | Blogger: The IPKat - Post a Comment [ http://ur1.ca/oclsj ]Dec 17 21:09
schestowitzThe AC is actively prossecuting the case of a member of the BOA. In what civilised country can the prossecuting body change the lwas of the pressecution to the disavantage of the prossectued and to the advvanatage of the prossecuting body? Should the AC not wait at least untill this case is closed?Dec 17 21:09
schestowitzBarbiDec 17 21:09
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:09
schestowitz    Barbi,Dec 17 21:09
schestowitz    They had to change it since the suspension had already lasted a lot more than 4 months? That's their thinking. Of they break the law - change the law. Because they can Dec 17 21:09
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:09
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:10
schestowitzFolks,Dec 17 21:10
schestowitzlet's celebrate today's outcome of the AC.Dec 17 21:10
schestowitzBattistelli lost several battles - he wanted to take off the DG3 paper - but was informed by the Chairman that this paper was approved on the agenda by the AC, and that it was not in his powers to withdraw it.Dec 17 21:10
schestowitzThen the Swiss made some "administrative" remarks. They all were very clear that the President overstepped his powers to make such proposals. The reform of DG3 will not be a matter to be proposed by the President, but the AC will have to do it on his own.Dec 17 21:10
schestowitzThe tax adjustment proposal was dismissed.Dec 17 21:10
schestowitzWhen praising his own work in the report of activities, the German delegation interrupted him. They told him that the report was 95% on technical matters and only 5% on social matters. They expected something else. The proposal for a social study was dismissed, again the AC takes this task on his own.Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzThe President told the AC what majority they need if they want to get rid of him - if you ask for it?Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzI saw many smiling faces today at the EPO, some even were sipping champaign.Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Merpel was right about the AC saving the BoA but unfortunately the AC approved BB´s proposal of a 2-year suspension (from 4 months). Very disappointing ... "Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz""Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"By the way, next year a new AC chairman needs to be elected - maybe time for a DE-CH tandem when another position is emptied ??"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzto the old man of epo...Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzI understand that the AC is in trouble, but why dig deeper into the trouble? If it is ture, then the AC put itself now in a manifestly apparent conflict of interest!Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzThis does not help the prescetion of the EPO as a mess.Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzBarbiDec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz    By the way, next year a new AC chairman needs to be elected - maybe time for a DE-CH tandem when another position is emptied ??Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz    Hopefully they will have ditched Kotzenbacher before that happens.Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzat maxdrei who wrote "After all that JK has been through, and learned on the job, he might make an excellent EPO President. Or at least, a better one than any other available candidate. "Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzyou have no idea of all what JK has seen or done since he was the closest ally of BB during all these years....Dec 17 21:11
schestowitzthis is the last one you wish to see taking the AC at this stageDec 17 21:12
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:12
schestowitz"    JK was always ¨his masters voice¨. Therefore he would be not my choice. He should follow his master. He accepted all the cruelties BB initiated fot the union and in particular Mrs Hardon. She could be in the top management as e very honest and intelligent person with a lot of experience."Dec 17 21:12
schestowitzPerhaps the AC could suspend him for 2 years on half pay, ban him from other IP work for another year and tell him to go to the ILO if he doesn't like it? "Dec 17 21:12
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:12
schestowitzIndeed, encouraging news, but still too early for a celebration.Dec 17 21:12
schestowitzBB seems to cling on. Even if he would leave early, his team will remain.Dec 17 21:12
schestowitzAnd at least 4 wistleblowers are suspended. They'll either loose their job or get a 50% salary cut.Dec 17 21:12
schestowitz"Dec 17 21:12
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/677617787032981505Dec 17 23:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz understandable...Dec 17 23:14
r_schestowitz> Roy,Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> The latest stuff from SUEPO ["SU"-prefixed documents] and CSC ["SC"-prefix].Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> The English translation of the legal opinion is also included, as wellDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> as the original German for reference.Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> An OCR-version of the translated document is also included asDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> "su15355cp_annex_en-ocr.pdf", but I'm not very happy with the quality.Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> I tried with another software, with much better results which onlyDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> needed very minimal corrections, in the areas where the translator'sDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> stamp overlapped the text. This later version is also included asDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> "legal-opinion.txt".Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Regards,Dec 17 23:19
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schestowitz> A very happy birthday to you, Roy.  Thanks again for all the great articles Dec 18 09:01
schestowitz> and news on Techrights.  Dec 18 09:01
schestowitzThanks, hoping to get back to more FOSS articles soon, and Microsoft too...Dec 18 09:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/677793900673826816Dec 18 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz there is also freedombone worth looking at https://t.co/DOdaH1aaiwDec 18 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> github.com | bashrc/freedombone · GitHubDec 18 10:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/677795117781147648Dec 18 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: While we're talking democracy and state of rights.... Help yourselves. https://t.co/ObTb0zX6nYDec 18 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Big Brother is born. And we find out 15 years too late to stop him https://t.co/2VA0ehcui4 "four million intercepted phone calls a year"Dec 18 10:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/677794245139431424Dec 18 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: @wallstreetita @ilgiornale @fattoquotidiano @POLITICOEurope @Laura_F_ERCOLI @reportrai3 @LaGabbiaTw @Serv_Pubblico https://t.co/vh4ItZqaLYDec 18 10:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | EPO Union Responds to Željko Topić and Raimund Lutz’s Attempt to Intimidate Staff That Joins Unions | TechrightsDec 18 10:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/677795470312361984    https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/677795521206099969Dec 18 10:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: @wallstreetita @ilgiornale @fattoquotidiano @POLITICOEurope @Laura_F_ERCOLI @reportrai3 @LaGabbiaTw @Serv_Pubblico https://t.co/8YOD862IB1Dec 18 10:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents General Consultative Committee Warned of “Witch Hunt in Pursuit of SUEPO Officials” (Union Busting) https://t.co/TWMJbOpsGDDec 18 10:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fth_nix: Too much data for effective targettong of bad guys! Massive haystack https://t.co/SpK9cNnyytDec 18 10:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/677808086430695426Dec 18 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Happy birthday!Dec 18 11:17
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treo_650Dec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Treo 650 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 18 11:32
schestowitz"Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzAh yes, I remember a few articles about HTC getting ruined by software extortion. You have dozens of articles about it.Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/05/apparently-an-extortion-indeed/Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Apple_vs_HTCDec 18 11:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_vs_AndroidDec 18 11:32
schestowitzI see a long and disastrous history of Wintel collaboration. The article says HTC was responsible for the Treo 650 and the first Windows phones. No wonder they failed. The 650 was an Intel mess and probably the end of the line for Treo. They moved from ARM to Intel, and had a nasty file system problem. This was at the time Handspring was sucked back into Palm, in part because Microsoft killed the whole Palm market with patents on GraffitiDec 18 11:32
schestowitz the obvious handwriting simplification and machine reading system.Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzIt seems as though the only kind of small portable computers rich and powerful people will allow us to have is the sort that’s made to oppress us. A good example of that is the ARM chips used for digital restrictions and other malice in every USB key and SSD memory card. If we are to have cell phones, they will be dependent on some remote computer for their function. No matter how powerful those computers become, we will increasingly beDec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | HTC-Microsoft Was Not an Agreement, It Was Apparently an Extortion | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/z297 ]Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzlocked out of them. “Desktop” and “Laptop” computers now come with malicious hyper visors able to spy on everything the user does. This is depressing.Dec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Apple vs HTC - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/avt5k ]Dec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft vs Android - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ocn32 ]Dec 18 11:32
schestowitz"Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzI think that Xerox was the bigger patent nuisance when it comes to Palm.Dec 18 11:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6917407Dec 18 11:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Out to the pub for my birthday, but back later for more #epo coverageDec 18 11:33
schestowitz"Happy Birthday!"Dec 18 11:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6917106Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Benjamin Mako Hill explains how he works with #gnu #linux https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/thesetup-changelog #fsf #freeswDec 18 11:34
schestowitz"Mako is such a great dude"Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mako.cc | TheSetup ChangeLog – copyrighteous [ http://ur1.ca/ocn34 ]Dec 18 11:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6915172Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Law schools lag behind on open source law https://opensource.com/education/15/12/teaching-open-source-law #freesw #lawDec 18 11:34
schestowitz"yeah, many people at my law school did not even know that Creative Commons existed."Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | Teaching open source law | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/oci93 ]Dec 18 11:34
schestowitzMaybe time to change school :-)Dec 18 11:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/677815141942083584Dec 18 11:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: @wallstreetita @ilgiornale @fattoquotidiano @POLITICOEurope @reportrai3 @LaGabbiaTw @Serv_Pubblico https://t.co/aNJGrpL3ArDec 18 11:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "145.64.134.245 has just...180 attempts against VARNISH... address: European Patent Office" Probably I.U. Time for abuse report? #epoDec 18 11:42
schestowitz> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/family-teenage-saudi-protester-abdullah-al-zaher-sentenced-death-appeal-lifeDec 18 11:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Family of teenage Saudi protester sentenced to death appeal for his life | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oclak ]Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> again, see:Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/20/saudi-arabia-new-terrorism-regulations-assault-rightsDec 18 11:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hrw.org | Saudi Arabia: New Terrorism Regulations Assault Rights | Human Rights Watch [ http://ur1.ca/ocn45 ]Dec 18 11:59
schestowitzTC licensing:Dec 18 13:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/677843554295799808Dec 18 13:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz My favourite one is if you can't pay due to the site being down, they then send a letter say if you don't pay in 6 months .....Dec 18 13:33
schestowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5574479&postID=5205293627419117961&isPopup=true&bpli=1Dec 18 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.blogger.com | Blogger: The IPKat - Post a CommentDec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzBattistelli was told by the council to renew social dialogue and stop harassing the representatives of the personal and he was, apparently, told privately by the French and Dutch delegations to stop the ongoing disciplinary procedures but he is still in post. What will he do next?Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzThere are 3 members of the staff union who are attacked in Munich. I think that all 3 hearings have been rushed through this week, so that the president can publish his 3 decisions before the end of the year. From what has been published from the procedure, it is obvious that this is a mock trial. There are simply too many procedural violations for the procedure to be believable.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzWill the president do what he was told by the council, stop the disciplinary procedures and reintegrate the 3 representatives? Or will he show the council that they are powerless to stop him and fire all 3 nevertheless?Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzHe can stop the disciplinary procedures, the service regulations allow him to do so. The disciplinary committees can find all 3 guilty, the president is still allowed to ignore their findings and reintegrate the 3 representatives. This is what he was explicitly instructed to do so any other decision will be contrary to the instructions of the council.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    Whispers,Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    Are you referring to the incident when BB refused Hollande the use of the EPO building for an event on a state visit to the Netherlands? If so, how long till the next French presidential election?Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    The outcome of the latest AC meeting was a half victory - half defeat for BB, which seen with the eyes of BB must´ve been a very bitter pill to swallow. The victory he´s gained, by having the AC accept the prolongation of the suspension period from 4 months to 2 years, may though be legally overturned by ILOAT.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    As I said before, one should count on the self-destructive abilities of BB. He won´t be able to change his ways now, at the zenith of his career, and he will certainly continue to annoy staff, attorneys and the AC. He´s also not ready to purr before the AC like a domestic pussycat and it will be interesting to see/hear his reaction to the latest AC meeting.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    There was a time when the presidents showed themselves before the staff at the end of the year. BB has only sent a congratulatory video with his Allo Allo René Artois impersonation but is nowhere to be seen down below, in the netherworld of the staff. In a true Christian spirit let´s wish him a happy Christmas and plus de sagesse dans la nouvelle année!Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"How come that a former VP1 can propose services which are normally the privilege of qualified representatives?"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzSearch and opinion services are not restricted by the EPC. It is only representation (activity before the EPO) that is restricted.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzAlthough the web site you point to mentions opposition and litigation, this is in the context of search and opinion services: and as any examiner should know, context affects meaning.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzAnyone can search, and anyone can have an opinion.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzPeople frequently tell me how little my opinions are worth....Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzApart from the somewhat boastful and dangerous assertion of "une parfaite maîtrise" I see nothing objectionable in the web site: however national law may see differently.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz    France will find a place for him somewhere.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz    Let us hope so.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz    Is the Bagne de Cayenne still in French hands ?Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzWhat a pity that Merkel has failed to report on a fifth "remarkable" letter:Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzNamely, the "warning letter" sent by the President of the EPO to the Chair of the Presidium (VP3) telling him to be careful about contacts between the Presidium and the AC which had not received prior authorisation from the President of the EPO.Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzNow that's a letter that would make interesting reading.Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzAs to the notorious disciplinary cases, thus far BB has trashed every recommendation from every instance. So, in each of the current cases of course the Head of State can cancel, waive, rescind, as he pleases. And he knows it well. He's an Absolute Ruler, up to now accountable to nobody, certainly not to the Rule of Law.Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzQuestion is though, will he? Does he suddenly now start to do what he's told by the AC? Why should he? Will he turn to Herr Lutz for advice? Why should he? What's the point? What has he got to gain? What's in it for him?Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz    @MaxDreiDec 18 13:41
schestowitz    "... Will he turn to Herr Lutz for advice? Why should he? ..."Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz    Yes, he will do so as he has done in the past, because Herr Lutz gives him the answers he likes to hear. Even though Herr Lutz as a German civil servant and former German judge should know better, he apparently never considers that there would be any objections to BB's proposed course of action under German law ...Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"    Where's the communiqué?"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/677846179133202432Dec 18 13:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ACROPOLITESSE: INPI https://t.co/yW6B3o9wzJDec 18 13:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #INPI (where the lunatic #battistelli came from) in tough position https://t.co/DbEfHaxlUGDec 18 13:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Bazeelzebub/status/677847491438620673Dec 18 13:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bazeelzebub: @schestowitz letter straight in the recycling bin. Let them send a person to my door who I can insultDec 18 13:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/677852803784704001Dec 18 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz Which opens the can of worms - when does an unborn child begin to have rights?Dec 18 14:08
schestowitzyes, that tooDec 18 14:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/677853321202372608Dec 18 14:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz The whole issue is a moral and ethical nightmare...Dec 18 14:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gepeto42/status/677866773077606400Dec 18 15:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gepeto42: @schestowitz @discreetsecure They should claim their site was compromised, it would be less shameful.Dec 18 15:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/677868369215811585Dec 18 15:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz patch is not enough here. Default config is to blame. Hipsters at the keyboards IMHO.Dec 18 15:12
schestowitzI met some Dec 18 15:12
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schestowitz> I agree, it is a waste of time.  I may or may not look into it, but that is Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> only because I'm trolled easily.  It is better you focus on EPO because you Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> might actually swerve real policy making.  Best of luck with that.  I'll keep Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> you posted if you are interested. Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Seigo says bad things about you, and this is why I do not trust him.  That and Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> the whole KDE 4 thing ... He usually says the right things about software Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> freedom, but this time he seems to be doing some misrepresentation and Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> vilification of RMS.  Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> The group of them are trying to make non free software look reasonable in Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Snowden's wake.  I'm going to call bullshit on that.  Wether they know it or Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> not, that advances the restore trust mission of software owners and spooks.  Dec 18 18:21
schestowitzSeigo said something not so flattering about me half a year ago. Has he said anything since?Dec 18 18:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6918794Dec 19 00:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is #libreoffice going to change just for the sake of change? http://news.softpedia.com/news/the-document-foundation-wants-to-overhaul-the-libreoffice-interface-497839.shtml Don't be #microsoft ...Dec 19 00:31
schestowitz"The linked article describes a goal to build a usability metrics gathering tool. That will allow analysis of the current UX and UI, and perhaps even A/B testing in the future. But nothing indicates a planned UI change for no user purpose, such as Microsoft carried out with its terrible ribbon concept."Dec 19 00:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.softpedia.com | The Document Foundation Wants to Overhaul the LibreOffice Interface [ http://ur1.ca/oco6l ]Dec 19 00:31
schestowitzThat's good news then..Dec 19 00:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6915172Dec 19 00:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Law schools lag behind on open source law https://opensource.com/education/15/12/teaching-open-source-law #freesw #lawDec 19 00:33
schestowitz"Dec 19 00:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | Teaching open source law | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/oci93 ]Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzThey say paradigms change only when the authority people grow old and die, and the new, young ones come in with new paradigms. I’m hopeful that this is just going to take a little time. :) Stallman is, in my view, a fairly historical human being, I imagine in even a perspective of thousands of years. This legal notion of the GNU General Public License and that stuff, I think is fairly much an actual revolution in how we consider Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzcultural ‘tools’ and such.Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzNo one asks us for payment, because we learned walk and talk, as human beings. It’s a sort of fundamental communal thing, just a human, common cultural thing. And I think it’s generally fairly inconceivable that anybody would try to copyright or patent walking or talking. But with computers, suddenly, after a couple of hundred thousand years on earth, we got a situation where something I think could somewhat be compared to walking or Dec 19 00:33
schestowitztalking, did get copyrighted and patented. Just imagine if writing had been copyrighted or patented! Bizarre idea, right?Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzBut I do think that something in principle quite close to that, is what happened with computers. And because of the legal restrictions on what one could do with Unix, Stallmann discerned and identified this rather strange situation we were in, and came up with the solution, with GNU General Public License, addressing the legality situation. The whole thing was strange, and Stallman’s work was totally amazing pioneer stuff. Even now, Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzwith all the people who use Wikipedia, I suspect not very many really know what Creative Commons or free and open source software is about, I mean the legality stuff.Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzBecause it’s strange. Strange like how no one would even imagine that it could be possible that one had to pay a license fee or something, for walking, talking, or writing! That strange, I imagine. And so perhaps it’s going to take some time before humanity learns about legality, and what Stallman realized and did. But we will learn, I do believe. Creative Commons and legally FOSS software is going to be a big and central part of Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzhuman culture in the future. I think that’s really as obvious as talking, walking and writing being ‘free and open source’. Humanity isn’t as advanced as we perhaps like to think. This is a huge step, it seems to me, and so it’s maybe natural if it takes a little while before people get acquainted with what it’s about.Dec 19 00:33
schestowitz"Dec 19 00:33
schestowitzRMS gives some  speeches on copyright, tracing back this cultures of protectionism and federalism to some early laws that impeded dissemination of information. It's a Class tool.Dec 19 00:34
MinceRrms already gave upDec 19 00:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hewiak/status/678006833232015360Dec 19 00:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@hewiak: @SciencePorn @schestowitz this may constitute proof of how #boring #engineers can be, and how #bored #scientists can beDec 19 00:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6919375Dec 19 09:15
schestowitz"I thought it was an odd choice when there are some good free software browsers available, like Firefox, Chromium, Midori, Epiphany (Web). I guess they just wanted the most popular browser."Dec 19 09:15
schestowitzNot popular among privacy advocatesDec 19 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post?Dec 19 09:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KingCockell/status/678150150829637632Dec 19 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KingCockell: @schestowitz ya because chopping heads off in genocidal attacks abroad should be left un noticed by western military powers...Dec 19 09:52
schestowitzThere are also genocides in Africa (Congo for instance), but these aren't used to 'sell' us All-Seeing EyeDec 19 09:52
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schestowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5574479&postID=5205293627419117961&isPopup=true&bpli=1Dec 19 12:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.blogger.com | Blogger: The IPKat - Post a CommentDec 19 12:15
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzNo quarrel,Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzThat entirely depends on how that "popularity" is measured, eh?Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzTrainwrecks always gather rubberneckers.Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzYour case in rest may in fact prove MY point.Dec 19 12:15
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:15
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzThe US anon,Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzWell, you have identified a problem, but what is the solution? Obvious solutions are:Dec 19 12:16
schestowitza) more responses or comments in the many other stories (I briefly calculated that only 2 of the last 25 postings from the various Kats have been about the EPO)Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzb) nobody comments about the EPO social problemsDec 19 12:16
schestowitzc) we ration the number of comments allowed about the same.Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzLet me know if you have an idea about c) and how to put it into practice.Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzPS You do realise that you are only contributing to the number yourself?Dec 19 12:16
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzClooney says:Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzWhen reading the report on the 146th AC meeting produced by the President's office, one realizes the perverted state of the EPO. The "excellent" results are obtained at the expenses of the health of the examiners who are in working now in a poisoned atmosphere and cannot longer enjoy their pedantic intellectual work. Using a metaphor, there is a difference  between egg production in a cage-free system and that in battery cages. In the Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzlatter, the hens get exhausted even if you feed them the best grains. Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzThe working atmosphere at the EPO is no doubt poisoned by the management style of BB and his team. Ironically, their report refers to the need to"improve" the social dialogue and to "finalise the on-going negotiations". Social dialogue did not even begin! There are no on-going negotiations!Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzOn the contrary, staff representatives are being crucified and some will be sacked soon.Dec 19 12:17
schestowitzThe AC and the President have received several critical inputs on the present desperate situation, but they do as if nothing happened and go on with their absurd politics. The EPO has become a madhouse.Dec 19 12:17
schestowitzBB should go, quick!Dec 19 12:17
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/678234177079218178Dec 19 15:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @schestowitz rather than just crib about it, I've decided to make it a 2016 goal to make #Linux a true music creation platform. #resolutionDec 19 15:24
schestowitzhttp://www.bash.academy/Dec 19 15:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bash.academy | The Bash AcademyDec 19 15:38
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3x9vna/in_uks_national_crime_agency_video_for_teenage/Dec 19 16:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | In UK's National Crime Agency video for teenage cybercrime the kid uses Ubuntu for "hacking" : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ocp80 ]Dec 19 16:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/678247358631575552Dec 19 16:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz announced earlier, I think; this is the first training session...Dec 19 16:18
schestowitzyes, heard of this before, the article is more recentDec 19 16:20
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/rumours-from-ac-and-four-remarkable.html?showComment=1450521657468#c7258851793225716054Dec 19 18:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Rumours from the AC, and four remarkable letters [ http://ur1.ca/ocp22 ]Dec 19 18:46
schestowitz"I have no hope , whatsoever, that the AC will intervene in any prosecution of ordinary staff (prominent SUEPO or else)Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzthere was a cynical, ironical earlier remark concerning (a totally improbable) disciplinary action against BoA members for contacting the AC,Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzsadly , however , a warning letter (ABMAHNUNG ??) may have beem sent on behalf of Mr. BB in this matter ( to VP3 ?)Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzindependence of the BoA ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzUnion rights ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzfree speach ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzhuman rights ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzgone into a black holeDec 19 18:46
schestowitzdoes EPO equate to Dante AlighieriDec 19 18:46
schestowitz"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate", most frequently translated as "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." ?"Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6919051Dec 19 19:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #patents as used for #protectionism and #monopoly http://www.worldipreview.com/news/gillette-seeks-to-cut-out-rival-shaving-company-in-patent-suit-9335 recall the case of Z. Topic regarding razors http://techrights.org/2015/02/08/ivan-kabalin-case/Dec 19 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.worldipreview.com | Gillette sues Dollar Shave Club over razor patent infringement [ http://ur1.ca/ocpht ]Dec 19 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The EPO’s Vice-President Željko Topić and the Case of Ivan Kabalin: Part XIII | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ocphu ]Dec 19 19:31
schestowitz> Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> Enemy in the own bodyDec 19 19:49
schestowitz> =====================Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> And regarding what BB says about the union (or as he called elsewhere, "minority of staff" - this is ***fully*** ridiculous ) - he used the term "mafia".Dec 19 19:49
schestowitzHypocrite, I responded to that.Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> I wonder, why he did not use "cancer", the enemy in the own body.Dec 19 19:49
schestowitzI have a series coming about EPO and cancer.Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> It is "HE" (*) and his inner circle, not the staff, who is the enemy (cancer) in the own body. Dec 19 19:49
schestowitzHypocrisy again.Dec 19 19:49
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014001894072320 https://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014349111140352  https://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014392232828928Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz Not a thing in the US, yet anyway.Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz Oh in my experience as a trans minority, more often it's misused by cis normatives to suppress those outside gender norms.Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz The term political correctness that is.Dec 13 12:23
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Aluenvey/status/676014487116365824Dec 13 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Aluenvey: @schestowitz Which makes one wonder if it's more power grab.Dec 13 12:23
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/676018345250983936Dec 13 12:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@scruffy_crunch: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Facebook has been a privacy sieve since day 1. It's amazing to see how easily people let go of privacy #uninformedDec 13 12:42
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/676023055294967808Dec 13 13:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@scruffy_crunch: @schestowitz @All4Privacy This coming from a chick who circumvented the policies for secure email so she could get around it.Dec 13 13:03
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/676024454397362176Dec 13 13:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@scruffy_crunch: @schestowitz @All4Privacy Either out of convenience (her version) or out of not wanting her email surveilled (everyone else's version)Dec 13 13:03
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/676039174747721728Dec 13 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SeaH2ONymph: #Facebook's #BigSur: 'beast of a computer' for companies w/interests in voice & facial recognition technology https://t.co/IOfwC8a3U0Dec 13 14:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #openwashing of mass #surveillance machines https://t.co/2ZVxW3h6aW #facebookDec 13 14:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6910460Dec 13 19:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A referendum on GPL enforcement http://lwn.net/Articles/666369/ #gpl #gnuDec 13 19:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> lwn.net | A referendum on GPL enforcement [LWN.net]Dec 13 19:36
schestowitz"What a rude article."Dec 13 19:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6910299Dec 13 19:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: As there are so much companies foolish enough to give the CIA's 'Webmaster' (Amazon) their whole DB (sensitive data), why not Google too?Dec 13 19:37
schestowitz"If you are dumb enough to still be using Windows, you might as well hand your database to the CIA."Dec 13 19:37
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schestowitzThere are many clients' data (inc. passwords that are reused) on these databases, as well as credit cards and sometimes medical dataDec 13 19:37
schestowitz"This is good news, but we should remember that US Federal Law essentially requires all libraries, schools, hospitals, and many other organizations, to install internet filtering software on every network and computer. This means that no research done at a library is really private and that the exit node will be watched. We need to get rid of obnoxious laws like CIPA and teach people that software freedom is required for real privacy."Dec 13 19:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6910191Dec 13 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Congresswoman Asks Feds Why They Pressured a Library to Disable Its Tor Node http://motherboard.vice.com/read/congresswoman-asks-feds-why-they-pressured-a-library-to-disable-its-tor-node go Zoe! She's great. #tor #anonymityDec 13 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> motherboard.vice.com | Congresswoman Asks Feds Why They Pressured a Library to Disable Its Tor Node | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/occse ]Dec 13 19:38
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Internet_Protection_ActDec 13 19:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Children's Internet Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/occsf ]Dec 13 19:38
schestowitzI wonder if we have equivalent laws here....Dec 13 19:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Ellen_Timmer/status/677104235587219459Dec 16 12:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Ellen_Timmer: De Grote Verleidingen van de Digitale Eeuw #zielaandeduivelverkopen https://t.co/9hFpkcryFZDec 16 12:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #nectar is malicious. In the #uk those spies (selling data on one's purchases) now offer incentive for people to install TRACKING app!Dec 16 12:35
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/677617787032981505Dec 17 23:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz understandable...Dec 17 23:14
r_schestowitz> Roy,Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> The latest stuff from SUEPO ["SU"-prefixed documents] and CSC ["SC"-prefix].Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> The English translation of the legal opinion is also included, as wellDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> as the original German for reference.Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> An OCR-version of the translated document is also included asDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> "su15355cp_annex_en-ocr.pdf", but I'm not very happy with the quality.Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> I tried with another software, with much better results which onlyDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> needed very minimal corrections, in the areas where the translator'sDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> stamp overlapped the text. This later version is also included asDec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> "legal-opinion.txt".Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Dec 17 23:19
r_schestowitz> Regards,Dec 17 23:19
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/677808086430695426Dec 18 11:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Happy birthday!Dec 18 11:17
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treo_650Dec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Treo 650 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 18 11:32
schestowitz"Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzAh yes, I remember a few articles about HTC getting ruined by software extortion. You have dozens of articles about it.Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/05/apparently-an-extortion-indeed/Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Apple_vs_HTCDec 18 11:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_vs_AndroidDec 18 11:32
schestowitzI see a long and disastrous history of Wintel collaboration. The article says HTC was responsible for the Treo 650 and the first Windows phones. No wonder they failed. The 650 was an Intel mess and probably the end of the line for Treo. They moved from ARM to Intel, and had a nasty file system problem. This was at the time Handspring was sucked back into Palm, in part because Microsoft killed the whole Palm market with patents on GraffitiDec 18 11:32
schestowitz the obvious handwriting simplification and machine reading system.Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzIt seems as though the only kind of small portable computers rich and powerful people will allow us to have is the sort that’s made to oppress us. A good example of that is the ARM chips used for digital restrictions and other malice in every USB key and SSD memory card. If we are to have cell phones, they will be dependent on some remote computer for their function. No matter how powerful those computers become, we will increasingly beDec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | HTC-Microsoft Was Not an Agreement, It Was Apparently an Extortion | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/z297 ]Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzlocked out of them. “Desktop” and “Laptop” computers now come with malicious hyper visors able to spy on everything the user does. This is depressing.Dec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Apple vs HTC - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/avt5k ]Dec 18 11:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft vs Android - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ocn32 ]Dec 18 11:32
schestowitz"Dec 18 11:32
schestowitzI think that Xerox was the bigger patent nuisance when it comes to Palm.Dec 18 11:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6917407Dec 18 11:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Out to the pub for my birthday, but back later for more #epo coverageDec 18 11:33
schestowitz"Happy Birthday!"Dec 18 11:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6917106Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Benjamin Mako Hill explains how he works with #gnu #linux https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/thesetup-changelog #fsf #freeswDec 18 11:34
schestowitz"Mako is such a great dude"Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> mako.cc | TheSetup ChangeLog – copyrighteous [ http://ur1.ca/ocn34 ]Dec 18 11:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6915172Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Law schools lag behind on open source law https://opensource.com/education/15/12/teaching-open-source-law #freesw #lawDec 18 11:34
schestowitz"yeah, many people at my law school did not even know that Creative Commons existed."Dec 18 11:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | Teaching open source law | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/oci93 ]Dec 18 11:34
schestowitzMaybe time to change school :-)Dec 18 11:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/677815141942083584Dec 18 11:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: @wallstreetita @ilgiornale @fattoquotidiano @POLITICOEurope @reportrai3 @LaGabbiaTw @Serv_Pubblico https://t.co/aNJGrpL3ArDec 18 11:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "145.64.134.245 has just...180 attempts against VARNISH... address: European Patent Office" Probably I.U. Time for abuse report? #epoDec 18 11:42
schestowitz> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/family-teenage-saudi-protester-abdullah-al-zaher-sentenced-death-appeal-lifeDec 18 11:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Family of teenage Saudi protester sentenced to death appeal for his life | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oclak ]Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> again, see:Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> Dec 18 11:59
schestowitz> https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/20/saudi-arabia-new-terrorism-regulations-assault-rightsDec 18 11:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hrw.org | Saudi Arabia: New Terrorism Regulations Assault Rights | Human Rights Watch [ http://ur1.ca/ocn45 ]Dec 18 11:59
schestowitzTC licensing:Dec 18 13:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/677843554295799808Dec 18 13:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kstallett: @schestowitz My favourite one is if you can't pay due to the site being down, they then send a letter say if you don't pay in 6 months .....Dec 18 13:33
schestowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5574479&postID=5205293627419117961&isPopup=true&bpli=1Dec 18 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.blogger.com | Blogger: The IPKat - Post a CommentDec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzBattistelli was told by the council to renew social dialogue and stop harassing the representatives of the personal and he was, apparently, told privately by the French and Dutch delegations to stop the ongoing disciplinary procedures but he is still in post. What will he do next?Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzThere are 3 members of the staff union who are attacked in Munich. I think that all 3 hearings have been rushed through this week, so that the president can publish his 3 decisions before the end of the year. From what has been published from the procedure, it is obvious that this is a mock trial. There are simply too many procedural violations for the procedure to be believable.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzWill the president do what he was told by the council, stop the disciplinary procedures and reintegrate the 3 representatives? Or will he show the council that they are powerless to stop him and fire all 3 nevertheless?Dec 18 13:39
schestowitzHe can stop the disciplinary procedures, the service regulations allow him to do so. The disciplinary committees can find all 3 guilty, the president is still allowed to ignore their findings and reintegrate the 3 representatives. This is what he was explicitly instructed to do so any other decision will be contrary to the instructions of the council.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    Whispers,Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    Are you referring to the incident when BB refused Hollande the use of the EPO building for an event on a state visit to the Netherlands? If so, how long till the next French presidential election?Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    The outcome of the latest AC meeting was a half victory - half defeat for BB, which seen with the eyes of BB must´ve been a very bitter pill to swallow. The victory he´s gained, by having the AC accept the prolongation of the suspension period from 4 months to 2 years, may though be legally overturned by ILOAT.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    As I said before, one should count on the self-destructive abilities of BB. He won´t be able to change his ways now, at the zenith of his career, and he will certainly continue to annoy staff, attorneys and the AC. He´s also not ready to purr before the AC like a domestic pussycat and it will be interesting to see/hear his reaction to the latest AC meeting.Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz    There was a time when the presidents showed themselves before the staff at the end of the year. BB has only sent a congratulatory video with his Allo Allo René Artois impersonation but is nowhere to be seen down below, in the netherworld of the staff. In a true Christian spirit let´s wish him a happy Christmas and plus de sagesse dans la nouvelle année!Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:39
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"How come that a former VP1 can propose services which are normally the privilege of qualified representatives?"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzSearch and opinion services are not restricted by the EPC. It is only representation (activity before the EPO) that is restricted.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzAlthough the web site you point to mentions opposition and litigation, this is in the context of search and opinion services: and as any examiner should know, context affects meaning.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzAnyone can search, and anyone can have an opinion.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzPeople frequently tell me how little my opinions are worth....Dec 18 13:40
schestowitzApart from the somewhat boastful and dangerous assertion of "une parfaite maîtrise" I see nothing objectionable in the web site: however national law may see differently.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz    France will find a place for him somewhere.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz    Let us hope so.Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz    Is the Bagne de Cayenne still in French hands ?Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:40
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzWhat a pity that Merkel has failed to report on a fifth "remarkable" letter:Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzNamely, the "warning letter" sent by the President of the EPO to the Chair of the Presidium (VP3) telling him to be careful about contacts between the Presidium and the AC which had not received prior authorisation from the President of the EPO.Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzNow that's a letter that would make interesting reading.Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzAs to the notorious disciplinary cases, thus far BB has trashed every recommendation from every instance. So, in each of the current cases of course the Head of State can cancel, waive, rescind, as he pleases. And he knows it well. He's an Absolute Ruler, up to now accountable to nobody, certainly not to the Rule of Law.Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzQuestion is though, will he? Does he suddenly now start to do what he's told by the AC? Why should he? Will he turn to Herr Lutz for advice? Why should he? What's the point? What has he got to gain? What's in it for him?Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz    @MaxDreiDec 18 13:41
schestowitz    "... Will he turn to Herr Lutz for advice? Why should he? ..."Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz    Yes, he will do so as he has done in the past, because Herr Lutz gives him the answers he likes to hear. Even though Herr Lutz as a German civil servant and former German judge should know better, he apparently never considers that there would be any objections to BB's proposed course of action under German law ...Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitz"    Where's the communiqué?"Dec 18 13:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/677846179133202432Dec 18 13:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ACROPOLITESSE: INPI https://t.co/yW6B3o9wzJDec 18 13:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #INPI (where the lunatic #battistelli came from) in tough position https://t.co/DbEfHaxlUGDec 18 13:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Bazeelzebub/status/677847491438620673Dec 18 13:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bazeelzebub: @schestowitz letter straight in the recycling bin. Let them send a person to my door who I can insultDec 18 13:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/677852803784704001Dec 18 14:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz Which opens the can of worms - when does an unborn child begin to have rights?Dec 18 14:08
schestowitzyes, that tooDec 18 14:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/readergordonbp/status/677853321202372608Dec 18 14:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@readergordonbp: @schestowitz The whole issue is a moral and ethical nightmare...Dec 18 14:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gepeto42/status/677866773077606400Dec 18 15:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gepeto42: @schestowitz @discreetsecure They should claim their site was compromised, it would be less shameful.Dec 18 15:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/677868369215811585Dec 18 15:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz patch is not enough here. Default config is to blame. Hipsters at the keyboards IMHO.Dec 18 15:12
schestowitzI met some Dec 18 15:12
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schestowitz> I agree, it is a waste of time.  I may or may not look into it, but that is Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> only because I'm trolled easily.  It is better you focus on EPO because you Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> might actually swerve real policy making.  Best of luck with that.  I'll keep Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> you posted if you are interested. Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Seigo says bad things about you, and this is why I do not trust him.  That and Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> the whole KDE 4 thing ... He usually says the right things about software Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> freedom, but this time he seems to be doing some misrepresentation and Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> vilification of RMS.  Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> The group of them are trying to make non free software look reasonable in Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> Snowden's wake.  I'm going to call bullshit on that.  Wether they know it or Dec 18 18:21
schestowitz> not, that advances the restore trust mission of software owners and spooks.  Dec 18 18:21
schestowitzSeigo said something not so flattering about me half a year ago. Has he said anything since?Dec 18 18:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6919375Dec 19 09:15
schestowitz"I thought it was an odd choice when there are some good free software browsers available, like Firefox, Chromium, Midori, Epiphany (Web). I guess they just wanted the most popular browser."Dec 19 09:15
schestowitzNot popular among privacy advocatesDec 19 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Not a Diaspora post?Dec 19 09:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KingCockell/status/678150150829637632Dec 19 09:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KingCockell: @schestowitz ya because chopping heads off in genocidal attacks abroad should be left un noticed by western military powers...Dec 19 09:52
schestowitzThere are also genocides in Africa (Congo for instance), but these aren't used to 'sell' us All-Seeing EyeDec 19 09:52
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schestowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5574479&postID=5205293627419117961&isPopup=true&bpli=1Dec 19 12:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.blogger.com | Blogger: The IPKat - Post a CommentDec 19 12:15
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzNo quarrel,Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzThat entirely depends on how that "popularity" is measured, eh?Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzTrainwrecks always gather rubberneckers.Dec 19 12:15
schestowitzYour case in rest may in fact prove MY point.Dec 19 12:15
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:15
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzThe US anon,Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzWell, you have identified a problem, but what is the solution? Obvious solutions are:Dec 19 12:16
schestowitza) more responses or comments in the many other stories (I briefly calculated that only 2 of the last 25 postings from the various Kats have been about the EPO)Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzb) nobody comments about the EPO social problemsDec 19 12:16
schestowitzc) we ration the number of comments allowed about the same.Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzLet me know if you have an idea about c) and how to put it into practice.Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzPS You do realise that you are only contributing to the number yourself?Dec 19 12:16
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzClooney says:Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzWhen reading the report on the 146th AC meeting produced by the President's office, one realizes the perverted state of the EPO. The "excellent" results are obtained at the expenses of the health of the examiners who are in working now in a poisoned atmosphere and cannot longer enjoy their pedantic intellectual work. Using a metaphor, there is a difference  between egg production in a cage-free system and that in battery cages. In the Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzlatter, the hens get exhausted even if you feed them the best grains. Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzThe working atmosphere at the EPO is no doubt poisoned by the management style of BB and his team. Ironically, their report refers to the need to"improve" the social dialogue and to "finalise the on-going negotiations". Social dialogue did not even begin! There are no on-going negotiations!Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzOn the contrary, staff representatives are being crucified and some will be sacked soon.Dec 19 12:16
schestowitzThe AC and the President have received several critical inputs on the present desperate situation, but they do as if nothing happened and go on with their absurd politics. The EPO has become a madhouse.Dec 19 12:17
schestowitzBB should go, quick!Dec 19 12:17
schestowitz"Dec 19 12:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/678234177079218178Dec 19 15:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jurasick: @schestowitz rather than just crib about it, I've decided to make it a 2016 goal to make #Linux a true music creation platform. #resolutionDec 19 15:24
schestowitzhttp://www.bash.academy/Dec 19 15:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bash.academy | The Bash AcademyDec 19 15:38
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3x9vna/in_uks_national_crime_agency_video_for_teenage/Dec 19 16:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | In UK's National Crime Agency video for teenage cybercrime the kid uses Ubuntu for "hacking" : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ocp80 ]Dec 19 16:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/678247358631575552Dec 19 16:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz announced earlier, I think; this is the first training session...Dec 19 16:18
schestowitzyes, heard of this before, the article is more recentDec 19 16:20
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/rumours-from-ac-and-four-remarkable.html?showComment=1450521657468#c7258851793225716054Dec 19 18:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Rumours from the AC, and four remarkable letters [ http://ur1.ca/ocp22 ]Dec 19 18:46
schestowitz"I have no hope , whatsoever, that the AC will intervene in any prosecution of ordinary staff (prominent SUEPO or else)Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzthere was a cynical, ironical earlier remark concerning (a totally improbable) disciplinary action against BoA members for contacting the AC,Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzsadly , however , a warning letter (ABMAHNUNG ??) may have beem sent on behalf of Mr. BB in this matter ( to VP3 ?)Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzindependence of the BoA ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzUnion rights ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzfree speach ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzhuman rights ?Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzgone into a black holeDec 19 18:46
schestowitzdoes EPO equate to Dante AlighieriDec 19 18:46
schestowitz"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate", most frequently translated as "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." ?"Dec 19 18:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6919051Dec 19 19:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #patents as used for #protectionism and #monopoly http://www.worldipreview.com/news/gillette-seeks-to-cut-out-rival-shaving-company-in-patent-suit-9335 recall the case of Z. Topic regarding razors http://techrights.org/2015/02/08/ivan-kabalin-case/Dec 19 19:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.worldipreview.com | Gillette sues Dollar Shave Club over razor patent infringement [ http://ur1.ca/ocpht ]Dec 19 19:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The EPO’s Vice-President Željko Topić and the Case of Ivan Kabalin: Part XIII | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ocphu ]Dec 19 19:31
schestowitz> Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> Enemy in the own bodyDec 19 19:49
schestowitz> =====================Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> And regarding what BB says about the union (or as he called elsewhere, "minority of staff" - this is ***fully*** ridiculous ) - he used the term "mafia".Dec 19 19:49
schestowitzHypocrite, I responded to that.Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> I wonder, why he did not use "cancer", the enemy in the own body.Dec 19 19:49
schestowitzI have a series coming about EPO and cancer.Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz Dec 19 19:49
schestowitz> It is "HE" (*) and his inner circle, not the staff, who is the enemy (cancer) in the own body. Dec 19 19:49
schestowitzHypocrisy again.Dec 19 19:49

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