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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/688515216666181632Jan 17 00:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past https://t.co/hYeRPiPCOLJan 17 00:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> reason.com | Terrorism In Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past -- And Doesn't Justify Expanded Repressive Surveillance - Hit & Run : Reason.comJan 17 00:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Murnmeg/status/688515400162742272Jan 17 00:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Murnmeg: @schestowitz @reason:Maybe USA should arrange that #Christies-Auctions London sell both #Trump & #GOP to #ISIS.#GOP on same level than #ISISJan 17 00:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688515716153241600  https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/688515943597735937Jan 17 00:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Again, thought we had been through this for past 5 - 10 years ... lolJan 17 00:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: À atenção de @zmaglh e da não explicitada mas quiçá agora nomeada securocrata "rapaziada que até lê inglês" https://t.co/RakGzhFQsJJan 17 00:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past https://t.co/WzAci18DoJJan 17 00:21
schestowitz> Here it goes bro:Jan 17 00:32
schestowitz>Jan 17 00:32
schestowitz> guilty-party-fires-the-accuserJan 17 00:32
schestowitz>Jan 17 00:32
schestowitz> Have a nice SundayJan 17 00:32
schestowitz>Jan 17 00:32
schestowitz> EduardoJan 17 00:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/688520527908999168Jan 17 01:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@theGuruWithin: .@BernieSanders reflects on War, Peace & #MLK in 1988 #1uMLK .@Salon .@schestowitz .@dailykos .@dailydot .@doctorow https://t.co/6m3wZIkE0UJan 17 01:01
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schestowitz>>> >> http://yle.fi/uutiset/paper_5000_higher_learning_jobs_cut_by_government/8601282Jan 17 10:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-yle.fi | Paper: 5,000 higher learning jobs cut by government | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/of8ra ]Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>>> >> While everyone is fighting over the budgets and staffing, the softersJan 17 10:01
schestowitz>>> >> have taken over the curricula and decided on even the teaching methods.Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>> >Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>> > Are they teaching MS at schools, to what degree if so..?Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz> I'm mostly out of the loop and have no contacts in the south, so don'tJan 17 10:01
schestowitz> quote on this.  Via the news and some 2nd and 3rd hand reports, M$ hasJan 17 10:01
schestowitz> given money in exchange for teaching or "researching" various products.Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>  But that's not what I was intending to refer to.  I mean that theJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> so-called IT staff has been replaced by defacto M$ resellers.  All ITJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> goes through them and no non-M$ activities get support or even allowed.Jan 17 10:02
schestowitz>  As I mentioned some years ago, they went through individual facultyJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> machines and deleted all non-approved software.  That's at theJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> University level.  I'll find out about two more universities sometimeJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> during the year, closer to the autumn, but the prognosis is not good.Jan 17 10:02
schestowitz> M$ killed Nokia but no one is reacting against it, only digging in deeper.Jan 17 10:02
schestowitzAsk Torvalds about it. Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>Jan 17 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/and_manus/status/688659855687589888Jan 17 10:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@and_manus: My underlying stress is proportional to the speed at which I consume an iced coffee. https://t.co/e2CScRz3F7Jan 17 10:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: A Few Keystrokes Could Solve the Crime. Would You Press Enter? https://t.co/CJco0C8Onu #prismJan 17 10:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/01micko/status/688673699961020416Jan 17 12:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@01micko: @schestowitz indeed! Q. Did GNU stuff run on Minix? #toolazytolookupJan 17 12:17
schestowitzNo connection between the twoJan 17 12:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6967057Jan 17 12:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Finding the Perfect Linux Laptop https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/01/finding-the-perfect-linux-laptop/ #gnu #linux #freedomJan 17 12:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/01/finding-the-perfect-linux-laptop/ )Jan 17 12:53
schestowitz"Cloudflare prevents me from seeing this site by showing tor users unsolvable captchas -,-"Jan 17 12:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/688717049712013313Jan 17 13:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "the state has been slow to react, despite admitting that it bungled the problem." https://t.co/qPCXe8eaVX >conscious< manslaughterJan 17 13:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesJan 17 13:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/688719288778149888Jan 17 13:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@theGuruWithin: .@schestowitz we r living in 3rd World #Corruptocracy. Time is short #PeacefulPoliticalRevolution only possibility 4 #WEthePeople survivalJan 17 13:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankThinker/status/688719142464008193Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrankThinker: @schestowitz @theGuruWithin They also covered up Legionnaire's disease. it is a biological and chemical siege, all for greed.Jan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688715722449661952   https://twitter.com/aral/status/688715311638540288Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Well, if you take money from foreign countries to destabilise your own, you ARE a traitor.Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@aral: Philanthropy: Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth https://t.co/32eyMPp70l A great read on philanthrocapitalism. Via @schestowitzJan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Philanthropy: Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive CommunityJan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DEISecure/status/688714066299207686Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DEISecure: @schestowitz & let the debt flow through & be written down instead of "extend & pretend" business as usualJan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/688707093071826944Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Coincidentally, I'm reading this from a coastal island 3m above sea level that's experiencing a bubble fueled housing boom.Jan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688721974810509312Jan 17 14:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Such as Spain's Podemos.Jan 17 14:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/steoreilly/status/688712556454776833Jan 17 14:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@steoreilly: Reminds of when Roy Keane HEAD-BUTTED Peter Schmeichel in drink-fuelled fight: https://t.co/iFrDTGMZgJJan 17 14:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mirror.co.uk | Roy Keane reveals moment he HEAD-BUTTED Peter Schmeichel in drink-fuelled fight leaving Man United keeper with black eye - Mirror OnlineJan 17 14:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/688727430891044864Jan 17 14:24
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@theGuruWithin: .@BernieSanders reflects War, Peace & #MLK in 1988 #1uMLK #FlintWaterCrisis #FlintWater https://t.co/6m3wZIkE0U https://t.co/bYpxGfVMIBJan 17 14:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/flintvictim/status/688729536184365056Jan 17 14:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@flintvictim: schestowitz: RT theGuruWithin: .BernieSanders reflects War, Peace & #MLK in 1988 #1uMLK #FlintWaterCrisis #FlintW… https://t.co/KUUVQinFA2Jan 17 14:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Few people steal all the capital, then give a fraction back with strings, call themselves "charitable". buy media https://t.co/VqQxgz0xXcJan 17 14:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zaurav/status/688731581368942592Jan 17 14:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zaurav: @schestowitz at this rate I feel it’s gonna be 1 up in liverpools favorJan 17 14:37
schestowitzWould be expected for them to win..Jan 17 14:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zaurav/status/688732169196425216Jan 17 14:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zaurav: @schestowitz haven’t watched epl in a very long time. Sorry to see manu fallen from its mantleJan 17 14:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArneBab/status/688737177962999808Jan 17 15:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ArneBab: RT @schestowitz Open Source Hardware (OSHW), why it matters and what is pseudo OSHW https://olimex.wordprehttps://t.co/O3eHUAM7v4Jan 17 15:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'olimex.wordpre' ( status 0 @ https://olimex.wordpre )Jan 17 15:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> sn.1w6.org | Status von drak (drak) auf Sunday, 17-Jan-16 14:56:50 UTC – 1w6 uRPGJan 17 15:04
schestowitzmanchester united looking terrible again http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2015-2016/epl.match-stats.html/liverpool-vs-man-utdJan 17 15:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.premierleague.com | Liverpool v Man Utd Match Statistics | Barclays Premier League [ http://ur1.ca/of9eh ]Jan 17 15:40
schestowitzthis isn't ferguson's team...Jan 17 15:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maxmufc7/status/688753870714048513Jan 17 16:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxmufc7: Utd should rip up De Gea's 5 year contract and give him a 10 year one with a £100m release clause. At this moment in time he's irreplaceableJan 17 16:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SkySportsStatto/status/688753741755985920Jan 17 16:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SkySportsStatto: Man of the match, David De Gea 4 saves 8th PL clean sheet of 15-16 72nd clean sheet in 201 apps for Man Utd https://t.co/2V0SdUeUIWJan 17 16:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SkySportsStatto: Man of the match, David De Gea 4 saves 8th PL clean sheet of 15-16 72nd clean sheet in 201 apps for Man Utd https://t.co/2V0SdUeUIWJan 17 16:06
schestowitz>> Excellent! Just finished both, hopefully someone who knows the languageJan 17 16:14
schestowitz>> > can double-check to see I didn't manage something up (lot of manual workJan 17 16:14
schestowitz>> > in the conversion of formats).Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz> I always do. I reread de articles once you loaded up. If Iĺl see something IĺlJan 17 16:14
schestowitz> inmediately let you know.Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz> See you later bro.Jan 17 16:14
schestowitzCheers mateJan 17 16:14
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> """""Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> Once you mentioned maybe this guy will go to Chile to visit Augusto PinochetśJan 17 16:27
schestowitz> grave. I did remember something my great uncle regarding a militar dictator whoJan 17 16:27
schestowitz> expropiate a lot of lands to our family. I will apply it to Pinoccio Battistelly:Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> "I hope when he dies thy will make a coffin in the shape of a (soccer) football.Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>  So we can take it to the cementery by kicking it all the way to it"Jan 17 16:27
schestowitzWhen I first found out the history of Pinochetś I was surprised I hadn't been taught that and the mainstream media overlooks it. If you search the name in techrights you'll find around 100 mentions (daily links mostly).Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> """""Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> Anyway here it goesJan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> pierre-yves-le-borgn-responds-to-epo/Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> My respects to Pierre, I pull off my hat!Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> The only one with guts to stand up against this @*%^!Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> Have a nice SundayJan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> EduardoJan 17 16:27
schestowitzI suppose delegates are receiving a lot of e-mail right now. That would help...Jan 17 16:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/688785482046697473Jan 17 18:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz will speak after him. FSF is too American, does not have patent priorities.Jan 17 18:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/688782747867987968Jan 17 18:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Transparancy as a money making tool: NYPD charging TV network $36,000 for body cam footage @arstechnica @schestowitz https://t.co/LUSI1k0Y3GJan 17 18:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | Police department charging TV news network $36,000 for body cam footage | Ars TechnicaJan 17 18:12
schestowitzMinceR: re Hardon and the trollJan 17 19:50
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1453041870569#c3970149801968847531Jan 17 19:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/ofa2m ]Jan 17 19:50
schestowitz"Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzSure, people get fired.Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzYet, the first reason is.... lacking secrecy on your own case? Sure, that publication reflects badly on the EPO, so it does contravene the ServRegs, but does it reflect badly because of the stuff being published, or because of the content? And who is responsible for the conten?Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzThe alleged harrasment? The Disciplinary Committee pointed out that only one of seven witnesses that were "interviewed" (with extremely suggestive questions) was able to confirm the case....Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzI have sincere issues with how the case was handled.Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzAlso, implementing a harsher punishment than proposed by the DC?Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzFurthermore: further reforms were put on the tables of the consultative organs, where the staff representation was lacking representatives. I'll bet that BB will use the votes, which were now 10 pro and 9 no as a proof that the reforms are wanted by the majority of staff, as those will be the first ones where he did not have to break the tie as chairperson in the obligatory consulting...Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzAnyway, think what you want, you're able to make your own opinion, and it is your right to point out that most employees are worse off. But those do have access to court decissions in a reasonable time, we do not. Thus we have no means against an unjustified firing.Jan 17 19:50
schestowitz-one of those priviledged ExaminersJan 17 19:50
schestowitz"Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzI think there's some trollingJan 17 19:50
schestowitzher so-called 'crime' was allegedly being rude to some employeeJan 17 19:50
schestowitzand for this they TAKE AWAY HER PENSION, plus the firingJan 17 19:50
schestowitzwhat a mess!Jan 17 19:50
oiaohmschestowitz: EPO quality of internal investigating does not give promise of quality patent inspection.Jan 17 19:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/688813630096297984Jan 17 20:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz That's why I observe the evil in the world- so you good people don't have to.Jan 17 20:06
schestowitztrying to imagine it in my head is strong enough a thing to make me fight against it (beheadings in SA)Jan 17 20:07
schestowitzoiaohm: not relatedJan 17 20:07
schestowitzthere's no real invetisgation thereJan 17 20:07
schestowitzit's a euphemism for union busting.Jan 17 20:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/688844752234479616Jan 17 22:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz False dichotomyJan 17 22:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688864778769551361Jan 17 23:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Me neither, and I suspect the is actually no one.Jan 17 23:28
schestowitzExcept maybe in the communications department, which the public can see (must pretend we're diverse, right?)Jan 17 23:28
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schestowitz"shoa-relativation, stupid, wrong and disgusting"Jan 18 01:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6968756Jan 18 01:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why the #GOP #mexico #Fence Fantasy Is a Farce http://commondreams.org/views/2016/01/17/why-gops-fence-fantasy-farce treating Mexicans like #israel treats Palestinians, like UntermenchenJan 18 01:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Why the GOP's Fence Fantasy Is a Farce | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/ofb3w ]Jan 18 01:14
schestowitzShocking analogy to evoke awakening to unacceptable human rights standardsJan 18 01:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/morvjn/status/688890006967025664   https://twitter.com/morvjn/status/688890149204307968Jan 18 01:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@morvjn: @schestowitz @BBCNews Please...Jan 18 01:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@morvjn: @schestowitz @BBCNews Now Iran has much more money to buy weapons with...Jan 18 01:15
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jorjahelloJan 18 02:22
jorjaI have an LG L34C phone that is giving Unfortunately, the process com.android.systemui has stopped. Does anyone know of a way to get this to stop? The phone company claims they cannot help me with the issue and it is too old for them to replace it. Also cannot afford a new phone. proof of error https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_yAR-460CIJan 18 02:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Proof of error - YouTubeJan 18 02:23
oiaohmjorja: http://lg-firmware-rom.com/ you can still get LG firmware images for that phone.   Most cases when phones are doing stupid stuff like that its possible to get them into adb mode and copy the data off of them before reimaging them.Jan 18 02:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lg-firmware-rom.com | Stock ROM / Firmware | For LG Phones & TabletsJan 18 02:45
oiaohmjorja: opps this is not support channel.Jan 18 02:46
jorjathere is noneJan 18 03:03
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schestowitz"Jan 18 07:32
schestowitzThought I'd let you know LinuxFest Northwest 2016Jan 18 07:32
schestowitzis now accepting applications forJan 18 07:32
schestowitzSponsor/Exhibitors and Presenters (Call for Papers).Jan 18 07:32
schestowitz-Note call for Presenters closes Feb 10th.Jan 18 07:32
schestowitz"Jan 18 07:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KareCarado/status/688932494289154048Jan 18 07:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KareCarado: @schestowitz but Blair would have to stand again as an MP or be given a peerage to make that happen...Jan 18 07:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688981359793168385Jan 18 07:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz The shame of not following the court's decision? Er...Jan 18 07:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688981640165634048  https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688983427169779712 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688984258212446208Jan 18 07:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Telling unemployed white working-class people they benefit from "white privilege" is a surefire way to alienate them.Jan 18 07:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @nationnews Yeah. And Republics tend to ban anti-Republican movements.Jan 18 07:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @thinkprogress ¿How many Britons have Trump supporters killed?Jan 18 07:39
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r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> I've donated a small amount to the SFC today. It's not much but it'sJan 18 10:28
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> what I have available.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >>Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> They're unique in that they are active in supporting and defending FreeJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> Software licensing, in particular the GPL.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >>Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> https://sfconservancy.org/news/2015/dec/24/private-internet-access-match/Jan 18 10:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sfconservancy.org | Conservancy announces funding match by Private Internet Access - Software Freedom Conservancy [ http://ur1.ca/ofa54 ]Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >>Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> They have a matching programme in effect through the end of the month,Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> so current donations count double until then.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> > If ever we have financial problems in tuxmachines and techrights (wifeJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> > and I work for the same employer, so it's volatile) I hope that readersJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> > who benefit from both would be willing to jump to our rescue...Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>> >> I hope so.  Both TM and TR have large reader populations.  TM has grownJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>> >> a lot since your wife and you took it over.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > Yes, we needed to add varnish, 16 GB of RAM to the back end, and otherJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > things to cope with the growing load, which is still increasing (IJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > haven't blogged about it there for a while, lack of time, may look likeJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > showfoff)Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > Susan told me/expressed to me a certain occasional regret that she hadJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > sold the site, but she trusts it in our hands. Rianne works really hardJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > to keep it up to date and make it FASTER  (to pick emerging news) thanJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > any other news site. Now sure everyone really appreciated it. And sheJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > isn't doing it for money, she's like me...Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > I didn't even have to 'incite' her against Microsoft to make her hateJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > Microsoft. She learned that on her own. She really hates Apple too,Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > maybe more than I do...Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> I've more or less written off Wikipedia since the trouble they gave ODF,Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> but I wonder if it would be possible to update the entry on M$ EEEJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> tactics.  Missing from the article are Kerberos, OpenSSH and R, to nameJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> three.  It would need a group though to overcome the astroturfers andJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> marketeers that are camped on any M$ page there.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitzWhen people look up EEE I don't know how many end up reading Wikipedia.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitzSo better yet, writing something up and send it for me to publish in techrights.Jan 18 10:29
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schestowitz> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35338413Jan 18 12:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.bbc.co.uk | Muslim women's segregation in UK communities must end - Cameron - BBC NewsJan 18 12:03
schestowitz>Jan 18 12:03
schestowitz> -Jan 18 12:03
schestowitz>Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12104556/David-Cameron-More-Muslim-women-should-learn-English-to-help-tackle-extremism.htmlJan 18 12:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | David Cameron: More Muslim women should 'learn English' to help tackle extremism - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/ofck8 ]Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz>Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> Allowing them to form ghettos / colonies further inhibits integration,Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> in addition to the other inhibiting factors.Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> Yes. There was an error.Jan 18 14:51
schestowitz> The attached document is the original Croatian version of the minutes ofJan 18 14:51
schestowitz> the court hearing.Jan 18 14:51
schestowitz> By mistake, the original mail had two different versions of the EnglishJan 18 14:51
schestowitz> translation.Jan 18 14:51
schestowitzThank you, Sir. You've done more than anyone (IMHO) for SUEPO reps.Jan 18 14:52
schestowitzI will publish tomorrow in preparation for the protests.Jan 18 14:52
schestowitz> I'm looking for sources right now and found that not only is this linkJan 18 14:54
schestowitz> missing from archive.org, but it is very heavily redacted:Jan 18 14:54
schestowitz>Jan 18 14:54
schestowitz> http://www.justice.gov/atr/us-v-microsoft-proposed-findings-factJan 18 14:54
schestowitz>Jan 18 14:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.justice.gov | U.S. V. Microsoft: Proposed Findings Of Fact | ATR | Department of Justice [ http://ur1.ca/ofd0j ]Jan 18 14:54
schestowitz> I'm not sure when the editing took place but if I remember correctly itJan 18 14:54
schestowitz> used to be whole and uncut online.  Search for the  string "Redacted"Jan 18 14:54
schestowitzMaybe a subject for a coming article?Jan 18 14:54
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schestowitz> On 01/18/2016 04:54 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >> I'm looking for sources right now and found that not only is this linkJan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >> missing from archive.org, but it is very heavily redacted:Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >> http://www.justice.gov/atr/us-v-microsoft-proposed-findings-factJan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >> I'm not sure when the editing took place but if I remember correctly itJan 18 21:27
schestowitz>>> >> used to be whole and uncut online.  Search for the  string "Redacted"Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz>> >Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz>> > Maybe a subject for a coming article?Jan 18 21:27
schestowitz> Perhaps, but it's been ages since I looked at that page and my memoryJan 18 21:27
schestowitz> may be faulty.  Old versions are definitely not present in archive.orgJan 18 21:27
schestowitz> even though some 8000+ pages from the same site are there in theJan 18 21:27
schestowitz> archive.  Those specific ones are missing, maybe just them.  I'd beJan 18 21:27
schestowitz> concerned about revisionism.Jan 18 21:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hintjens/status/689189826231451648Jan 18 22:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@hintjens: zproject targets: android autotools cmake cygwin debian docker java mingw32 nuget python qml qt redhat ruby travis vs2008/10/12/13/15Jan 18 22:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UbuntuTopNews/status/689212751265177600Jan 18 22:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@UbuntuTopNews: Where would we be without Ubuntu - TechRepublic https://t.co/BwfoLmJgXB via @schestowitz https://t.co/GHBDKDJM06Jan 18 22:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> gettopical.com | ​Where would we be without Ubuntu - TechRepublicJan 18 22:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@UbuntuTopNews: Where would we be without Ubuntu - TechRepublic https://t.co/BwfoLmJgXB via @schestowitz https://t.co/GHBDKDJM06Jan 18 22:36
schestowitz"Jan 18 23:01
schestowitzDear Roy,Jan 18 23:01
schestowitzhere the requested translation of the letter by Philip Cordery. French MP. Again thank you Roy for all the excellent investigation (!) work you have done. And, as always, I do my best for the translation but it might not be 100% accurate.Jan 18 23:01
schestowitzKind regards.Jan 18 23:01
schestowitzJ.Jan 18 23:01
schestowitz"Jan 18 23:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/689222809084686340Jan 18 23:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: @schestowitz noticed an error at https://t.co/YGpPAphzsy where it says "linux efforts inside linux"Jan 18 23:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Explosive New Revelations About Elop’s Role Inside Nokia | TechrightsJan 18 23:11
schestowitzAh, too old for me to bother correcting now ;-)Jan 18 23:11
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schestowitz"Jan 19 00:17
schestowitz29. Jutta Krellmann, Member of Parliament (DIE LINKE.)Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzTo what extent can the Federal German Government confirm the “deterioratingJan 19 00:17
schestowitzworking conditions” (www.heise.de/ix/meldung/Europaeisches-Patentamt-droht-Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzGewerkschaftsfuehrung-2814245.html) at the European Patent Office under theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzmanagement of President Benoît Battistelli, in respect of the employees and theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzunion SUEPO, and what possibilities does the Federal Government see for defusingJan 19 00:17
schestowitzthe situation and possibly bringing the conflict to an end?Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzReply by Parliamentary Secretary of State Christian Lange of 8 October 2015Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzThe European Patent Office is an organ of the European Patent Organization (EPO).Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzThe latter is an international organization which was established in 1973, which nowJan 19 00:17
schestowitzcomprises 38 contracting states. As is usual with international organizations, the EPOJan 19 00:17
schestowitzhas acquired an independent legal framework. This consists in particular of theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzEuropean Patent Convention and other agreements under international law. For theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzpersons who are engaged there, predominantly international public officials, there isJan 19 00:17
schestowitzalso an independent public officials statute, as well as other internal regulationsJan 19 00:17
schestowitzwhich serve to implement and formulate this statute.Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzA good working atmosphere at the European Patent Office is a matter of very greatJan 19 00:17
schestowitzimportance to the Federal German Government.Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzIn order to improve the situation, in particular the atmosphere for discussions at theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzEPO, the Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection has urged theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzAdministrative Council at the EPO to stimulate resumption of the social dialogue. TheJan 19 00:17
schestowitzintention is that this should take the form of a three-way interaction between theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzPresident, the Administrative Council, and the trade unions at the EPO, and serve toJan 19 00:17
schestowitzdetermine, in the interests of the staff, where it will be possible for the parties to comeJan 19 00:17
schestowitzto terms on the present dispute issues.Jan 19 00:18
schestowitzThe Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection is actively seeking toJan 19 00:18
schestowitzimprove the situation. In the final analysis, however, it will be down to the partiesJan 19 00:18
schestowitzinvolved at EPO themselves to take advantage of the possibilities being offered toJan 19 00:18
schestowitzhold talks, and thereby open up room for manoeuvre. In this context, an individualJan 19 00:18
schestowitzcontracting state has no rights of instruction or supervision. Germany too, itsJan 19 00:18
schestowitzconcerns notwithstanding, must pursue the matter by way of the administrativeJan 19 00:18
schestowitzbodies of the EPO, and is only one of 38 contracting states.Jan 19 00:18
schestowitz'Jan 19 00:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wood5y/status/689426334083260416Jan 19 12:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wood5y: UK media holding the British state to account? #myarse https://t.co/XlzORmhC9iJan 19 12:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Regarding David Miranda detention, intl'/independent media says law broken, #uk corporate media says "lawful". Says a lot about our 'press'.Jan 19 12:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/689425445687717888Jan 19 12:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz @BillGates Thanks for clarification. #peaceJan 19 12:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689428674437771265Jan 19 12:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @glynmoody Yes, and no. Also have to remember the anonym-ised users are using tor. https://t.co/4iTQS4pypMJan 19 12:51
schestowitzIRC loggingJan 19 12:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArneBab/status/689429694333095936Jan 19 12:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ArneBab: @schestowitz @METAKNlGHT @glynmoody at least for public channels, anyone can log by simply joining them. Do you mean private messages?Jan 19 12:53
schestowitzEverything, the back end/server logsJan 19 12:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689428674437771265Jan 19 12:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chrisgmarcon/status/689431584068382720Jan 19 13:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chrisgmarcon: @schestowitz @aral Complacency in the UK is borderline endemic; it'll take a bloody miracle to get them off their assesJan 19 13:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689431547020054528Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @ArneBab @glynmoody https://t.co/a6WASENBF3Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689431431655731200Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @ArneBab @glynmoody Legally they have to keep them for 5 years. Link to them clarifying adherence to this is :D broken.Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689430797070172160   https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689430302968573954Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Lord Janner was the least of it @schestowitz https://t.co/SyyxEAoCkAJan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.bbc.com | Lord Janner 'abused 12 at children's homes' - BBC NewsJan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: One of the problems @schestowitz was that some of the MI5 and MI6 people and Whitehall civil servants were paedophiles. With guns. Nasty.Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689429855931236352Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @glynmoody They are saying they can but archive will be limited. Fairly sure you'll find that Scandinavian Gov's have done so.Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/689429748720631808   https://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689428674437771265Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz Aus govt...hey guys..have access to warrantless data on EVERY CITIZEN..with our pleasure..just a tiny PAYBACKJan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArneBab/status/689429694333095936Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689429410961690625Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: They decided that someone else should work with him @schestowitzJan 19 13:22
oiaohmschestowitz: Australian law you are asked for password/encryption key you have to hand it over.Jan 19 13:23
schestowitzunder which circumstances?Jan 19 13:25
schestowitzYou have to have border crossing or something like a warrant, no?Jan 19 13:25
oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law#Australia  depends if they use the Cybercrime Act 2001 No. 161, Items 12 and 28 law or . Crimes Act 1914, 3LA(5)Jan 19 13:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Key disclosure law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJan 19 13:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/davidmirandario/status/689407688871047168Jan 19 13:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@davidmirandario: Thrilled with the court ruling! My purpose was to show UK's terrorism law violates press freedoms. And journalism isn't "terrorism." We won!Jan 19 13:32
oiaohmschestowitz: 1914, 3LA(5) it requires no warrant just police officer giving you an order and you disobeying.Jan 19 13:33
oiaohmYes 2 years in prison for disobeying  lawful order.Jan 19 13:33
oiaohmschestowitz: also the 2001 is nasty because if you have files you have no way to decode because you don't have the key any more they can put in jail for 6 months.Jan 19 13:35
oiaohmSo depending on the case between 6 months to 2 years in jail.Jan 19 13:36
oiaohmschestowitz: legal hazard is those segagate harddrives with delete encrption key to block access to data in Australia.Jan 19 13:40
schestowitzwowJan 19 13:48
schestowitzI think Canada is similarJan 19 13:48
schestowitz!google canada airport decryptJan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[1] - Smartphone & Laptop Searches: Know Your Rights - MakeUseOf | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/smartphone-laptop-searches-know-rights/Jan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[2] - Key disclosure law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_lawJan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[3] - Aviation Weather Services Guide - Nav Canada | http://www.navcanada.ca/EN/media/Publications/AWS-Guide-EN.pdfJan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[4] - Canadian Cops Can Decrypt PGP BlackBerrys Too | Motherboard | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/canadian-cops-can-decrypt-pgp-blackberrys-tooJan 19 13:48
schestowitznot sure if has been tested in the UKJan 19 13:48
schestowitzas in refusal to decrypt leading to prison or trialJan 19 13:49
oiaohmschestowitz: there is worse http://hrlc.org.au/files/DGZNHGCKVZ/Factsheet%20-%20Counter-Terrorism.pdfJan 19 14:09
oiaohmThe law in Australia allows for a person to be held without charge in 7 day segments forever.Jan 19 14:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/troubletroyous/status/689449208579887104Jan 19 14:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@troubletroyous: @schestowitz @katalin_pota @the_intercept national security means lies, they are protecting their lies. The seals didn't do it, #diabetesJan 19 14:10
schestowitzoiaohm: but Australia hardly has terrorismJan 19 14:10
schestowitzI can only think of two casualties (last year)Jan 19 14:10
schestowitzsharks are a far more potent threatJan 19 14:10
oiaohmLast 12 months 50 arrests for attempts.Jan 19 14:11
oiaohmYes casualties are low but the interception rate is also scarily high.Jan 19 14:11
schestowitz> Attached I send you a translation of the heise article. I'm a non-nativeJan 19 14:25
schestowitz> English speaker, so please feel free to correct the translation whereverJan 19 14:25
schestowitz> the English is not correct.Jan 19 14:25
schestowitz>Jan 19 14:25
schestowitz> P.S.: I am aware that the EPO might intercept this mail, but even if itJan 19 14:25
schestowitz> would, that's ok (I know what I'm doing)Jan 19 14:25
schestowitzThank you. I don't think EPO intercept such E-mails, but it's safer to assume the worse and suppose they do.Jan 19 14:25
schestowitzThe only case where I know they intercepted mail involved GMail (two cases). Remember that EPO and Google are partners (on translation and patent search).Jan 19 14:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6971293Jan 19 14:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What #facebook deems "racism" is very broad, politically-motivated. See for instance techrights.org/2010/10/29/power-over-communities-misused/ & http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/FacebookJan 19 14:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Facebook - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/22y3v ]Jan 19 14:45
schestowitz> Hi,Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz>Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> I'm now mostly recovered.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitzWelcome back, Sir! :-)Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> There's a couple more messages to come. You will find below the text ofJan 19 17:21
schestowitz> the EPO internal communiqué.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitzVery timely!Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> In the Hardon dismissal letter there is a clear allusion to the CorcoranJan 19 17:21
schestowitz> ["Mr. C."] business, and an admission that spyware is installed on PCs.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> But I think you saw that too.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitzYes, I saw that letter and published it.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> The attached document is the original Croatian version of the minutes ofJan 19 19:09
schestowitz> the court hearing.Jan 19 19:09
schestowitz> By mistake, the original mail had two different versions of the EnglishJan 19 19:09
schestowitz> translation.Jan 19 19:09
schestowitz> Yes. There was an error.Jan 19 19:10
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schestowitz> old:Jan 19 21:15
schestowitz>Jan 19 21:15
schestowitz> https://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/09/01/changing--dna.aspxJan 19 21:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-redmondmag.com | How Open Source Is Shaping Microsoft's Future -- Redmondmag.com [ http://ur1.ca/ofiff ]Jan 19 21:15
schestowitzYes, I wonder how much 1105 media (MS propaganda network) paid him for this piece. $1000?Jan 19 21:15
schestowitz> old:Jan 19 21:15
schestowitz>Jan 19 21:15
schestowitz>  https://books.google.com/books?id=ifuAAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA112&lpg=PA111&ots=bfHNXC5fg9&focus=viewportJan 19 21:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-books.google.com | Silent Theft: The Private Plunder of Our Common Wealth - David Bollier - Google Books [ http://ur1.ca/ofifg ]Jan 19 21:15
schestowitzCheersJan 19 21:15
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schestowitz> Attached I send you the translation of another newspaper article, thisJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> one in an encrypted fileJan 20 00:28
schestowitzI think you forgot the attachment ;-)Jan 20 00:28
schestowitz  Jan 20 00:28
schestowitz> P.S.: Did I understand you correctly that google might have provided theJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> access for the office? I would rather assume that the EPO gained accessJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> to the mails from within the EPO network, for example by usingJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> keyloggers or screenshots, than that google provided them direct accessJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> to the gmail accountsJan 20 00:28
schestowitzThat's an unknown actually. All I know, based on the J'Accuse, is that comms between the judge and Els and between Els and Florian (both case Gmail) got read, one way or the other. I'm not mentioned in any way, so I suppose they're still struggling a bit, not identifying my sources...Jan 20 00:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689604516090515457Jan 20 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @schestowitz For example, all the browsers like Firefox and Chrome have telemetry.Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzYes, and that's not good eitherJan 20 00:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689604641227538432Jan 20 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf So then absolutely not a single smartphone in the world is secure?Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzCorrect, unless you can name one...Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689604827177873408Jan 20 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Exactly how would the baseband processor in an iPhone “root” the AP? Please be specific.Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzThis is old news. The towers can seize control of the baseband OS (proprietary), which in turn takes over Android/iOS/otherJan 20 00:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689605188273905664Jan 20 00:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf Even then, I'm not exactly sure how an article from January 2011 is relevant today…Jan 20 00:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689605618378809345Jan 20 00:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @schestowitz Why?Jan 20 00:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689605857785475072Jan 20 00:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna Could you please explain this baseband attack you’re contemplating? What exactly is the evil baseband doing?Jan 20 00:31
schestowitzhttp://www.extremetech.com/computing/170874-the-secret-second-operating-system-that-could-make-every-mobile-phone-insecureJan 20 00:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.extremetech.com | The secret second operating system that could make every mobile phone insecure | ExtremeTechJan 20 00:32
schestowitz"As you can probably guess, a large, closed-source codebase that implements old standards is a really bad idea. Holwerda says that REX OS automatically executes any commands that it receives over-the-air from the carrier’s base station — and yes, in case you were wondering, there are commands that perform a variety of heinous acts, such as turning on auto-answer, executing arbitrary code, or simply bricking your device. It goes withoutJan 20 00:33
schestowitzsaying that, in theory, you could set up your own base station (say, with software-defined radio) and cause a lot of havoc. When you hear that an iPhone has been jailbroken due to a baseband exploit, it means that hackers have found a bug in the baseband OS or processor that gives them elevated access to the rest of the device."Jan 20 00:33
schestowitzNobody knows what REX OS is doing (it's a secret), but it's old, insecure, and been reverse-engineeredJan 20 00:34
schestowitz#openmoko was the only phone I know of with potential to overcome this problemJan 20 00:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689606237864898560  https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689606410745720832Jan 20 00:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Yes, you said that already. I’m asking: how exactly does the baseband “take over” the AP running iOS?Jan 20 00:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Stipulate I have full control over your baseband. What is my next move, to take over your iOS kernel on the AP?Jan 20 00:35
schestowitzMITM with towerJan 20 00:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689606442710499328Jan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf and the last example of that actually working with iOS was from January 2011, 5 years ago. A lot has changed since then.Jan 20 00:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689606470174814208Jan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @schestowitz Remember that both browsers are open source, which is why I mention them as examples.Jan 20 00:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/689606925399539713Jan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: No, not for "terrorists". For joy of stupid slaves, which broke own rights just to have "anti-terrorism" govts.. https://t.co/eYNgpIr5gOJan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Next time you take off your belt (or pants) at the airport remember you do it for the terrorists. Just to give them some joy of triumph.Jan 20 00:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689606969838084096   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607170682322945   https://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689607207336284160Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna You’re still not answering the question. It’s totally insecure. Stipulated. Now: how do I use it to attack the AP?Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna The AP is a SEPARATE ARM PROCESSOR. iOS does not run on the baseband.Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf You avoided the question. How does a vulnerability/backdoor in REX OS translate into a backdoor into iOS?Jan 20 00:37
schestowitzTransmission intercepts, which grant remote access to iOS processesJan 20 00:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607603412860928Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz The tower can only take over the baseband CPU. That’s not the APU. How does the tower take over the APU, where Signal runs?Jan 20 00:37
schestowitzAcquire credentials etc. via packet transmission, for instanceJan 20 00:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607787744092160Jan 20 00:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna How does a “transmission intercept” give one processor access to another’s memory?Jan 20 00:38
schestowitzYou acquire information to remotely access the other OS on another processorJan 20 00:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/drspringfield/status/689607872766963712Jan 20 00:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@drspringfield: @tqbf @schestowitz https://t.co/S1tk3y9t04Jan 20 00:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@drspringfield: @tqbf @schestowitz https://t.co/S1tk3y9t04Jan 20 00:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607994808492032Jan 20 00:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz The whole point of Signal is that it assumes the tower is untrusted. How is the Tower getting Signal’s credentials?Jan 20 00:40
schestowitzWhen iOS is compromised you can't even know for sure if the Signal binary you get is authenticJan 20 00:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608255664852993Jan 20 00:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna If I take over your ethernet hub on your home network, can I take over your laptop’s Linux kernel?Jan 20 00:40
schestowitzYes, if you can intercept passwords, which is sometimes the case. Then SSH access...Jan 20 00:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608390377504769   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608475689639936   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608504835837952Jan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna Obviously: no. So: why do you believe that same attack works on a phone? The baseband has same role as ethernet hub.Jan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Don’t change the subject. You’re CONVINCED the baseband gives “towers” access to iOS processes. Explain how.Jan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz (I can spoiler this for you if you want).Jan 20 00:41
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/25C3_presentation_%22Hacking_the_iPhone%22   I like claims that tower can only take over baseband CPUJan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/25C3_presentation_%22Hacking_the_iPhone%22 )Jan 20 00:41
schestowitzYou're being very strident now, it's a waste of time with youJan 20 00:41
oiaohmschestowitz: There is a DMA interlink between application processor and baseband processor in iphones.Jan 20 00:42
schestowitzright...Jan 20 00:42
schestowitzbut anyway, I think I agrue with there with an apple fanboiJan 20 00:42
schestowitzit's a waste of timeJan 20 00:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608865919303680Jan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz It’s a waste of time because you literally have no idea what you’re talking about.Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689608879110402048Jan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf iOS and the baseband OS don't share memory. They're not even in the same PoP.Jan 20 00:43
oiaohmschestowitz: so breach of baseband processor can allow application processor memory to be altered.   Now question is how secure is the DMA in iphone.Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689609117963448320Jan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: Fatal iOS security flaw: tower can sniff your SSH passwords, use them to log into your phone. https://t.co/ZBBJXDl8Z5Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzNow he's jjust trollingJan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @tqbf @rosyna Yes, if you can intercept passwords, which is sometimes the case. Then SSH access...Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzmisquoting meJan 20 00:44
oiaohmschestowitz: so baseband broken is maybe application processor broken.Jan 20 00:44
schestowitzok, fair point...Jan 20 00:44
schestowitzand since it's proprietary, we don't knowJan 20 00:44
oiaohmThe claim only can take over baseband processor is totally not checking if the DMA between the processors is safe.Jan 20 00:45
schestowitzYou and mister teletubby on your side are clearly just trolling me now, by also misquoting me to ridicule meJan 20 00:45
schestowitz(me to him)Jan 20 00:45
oiaohmSomeone like the NSA would have the resources to check for DMA faults.Jan 20 00:45
oiaohmschestowitz: remember the older firewire hack when the firewire processor could read all the host computers memory because DMA was not secured.Jan 20 00:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689609811600605184Jan 20 00:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf (REX OS-based products are no longer produced. The only new products that use them since 2012 are low-end cell phones)Jan 20 00:46
oiaohmSo there are real world examples of sub processes breaching complete system.Jan 20 00:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689609930526056448Jan 20 00:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz no there is not.Jan 20 00:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689609995600539648Jan 20 00:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @rosyna @schestowitz @tqbf REX is not the only baseband OS.Jan 20 00:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689609082618019841Jan 20 00:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf How is it going to intercept encrypted passwords? That's the point of Signal!Jan 20 00:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/689606925399539713Jan 20 00:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: No, not for "terrorists". For joy of stupid slaves, which broke own rights just to have "anti-terrorism" govts.. https://t.co/eYNgpIr5gOJan 20 00:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Next time you take off your belt (or pants) at the airport remember you do it for the terrorists. Just to give them some joy of triumph.Jan 20 00:48
oiaohmThe security difference between baseband running in arm processors trusted zone compare to running in a independent processor connected by DMA is bugger all.   Both depend on memory maps set right to prevent invalid tampering both ways.Jan 20 00:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689610254712090624Jan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbf Indeed, but that's the one he took issue with.Jan 20 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689610504029900800Jan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @rosyna @schestowitz @tqbf I don't believe any other baseband OS tends to be more secure though.Jan 20 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/cigardubey/status/689610673043705856Jan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@cigardubey: Wut https://t.co/qSnRigU5gkJan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: .@tqbf There is a DMA interlink between application processor and baseband processor in iphones.Jan 20 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ustayready/status/689610815855525888Jan 20 00:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ustayready: @tqbf @schestowitz the secure enclave in the co processor establishes the PPP link for transmission of the gid for user keybag via winsockJan 20 00:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689611006025170944Jan 20 00:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbf But even assuming an incredibly insecure modem, how does it get access to anything iOS attempts to protect?Jan 20 00:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689611282324979712Jan 20 00:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbf That's where his arguments are failing. The modem is a physically separate device.Jan 20 00:52
schestowitz> ... forgot the attachment, here it isJan 20 00:53
schestowitzThanks.Jan 20 00:53
schestowitzI put it in my "don't publish" (yet) file...Jan 20 00:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/esesci/status/689612025316532224   https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689612083768401920   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689612289377452033Jan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@esesci: @schestowitz @tqbf that suddenly made person of interest 100x more realistic.Jan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @tqbf @schestowitz Just found https://t.co/0XQ5qvomyj on baseband and DMAJan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.ycombinator.com | This is all a bit over the top. Yes, the baseband may be compromisable, that doe... | Hacker NewsJan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @yuhong2 @schestowitz it's all chip-chip USB now apparently.Jan 20 00:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/myhndl/status/689612707528515584Jan 20 00:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@myhndl: This entire conversation is hilarious https://t.co/tXgZMBNTeaJan 20 00:58
oiaohmRogue USB device hacking OS because memory maps are wrong somewhere is not new either.Jan 20 01:01
schestowitzoiaohm: right...Jan 20 01:01
oiaohmBreached baseband means DMA security from application processor need to be audited.Jan 20 01:01
schestowitzanyway I got some new followersJan 20 01:01
schestowitzsecurity people, even from GoogleJan 20 01:01
oiaohmTo make sure there is no exploit up.Jan 20 01:02
schestowitzsome of those trolling me are from Microsoft ;-)Jan 20 01:02
schestowitzSo I must be doing something right there..Jan 20 01:02
oiaohmOr course attack into baseband from application processor could also be possible of the baseband DMA security settings are wrong.Jan 20 01:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_supernothing/status/689613676047835136Jan 20 01:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@_supernothing: Super pumped for this generic OTA baseband->AP root. https://t.co/eH9HMDx4L5Jan 20 01:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: .@tqbf This is old news. The towers can seize control of the baseband OS (proprietary), which in turn takes over Android/iOS/otherJan 20 01:02
oiaohmSome of these things closed black boxes not validated is massively stupid.Jan 20 01:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6972432Jan 20 01:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Calls for boycotting Samsung https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/689529450577301504 I called for it 9 years ago http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SamsungJan 20 01:04
schestowitz"rooting a tv? …hmmm…"Jan 20 01:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@internetofshit: Smart TVs that add advertising to the UI are unacceptable. A reason to boycott Samsung. https://t.co/LXxXtcAuDOJan 20 01:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Samsung - TechrightsJan 20 01:04
schestowitzRisky....Jan 20 01:04
oiaohmQuestion is what does the advertising companies find out.   Do they find out what tv programs you like watching.Jan 20 01:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689614437016174592Jan 20 01:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @tqbf Signal still relies on phone numbers, I fail to see how that excludes them from CALEA. The rest though? rofl @schestowitzJan 20 01:06
schestowitzoiaohm: they have cams mounted on some set-top boxesJan 20 01:06
schestowitzso they can watch who's watchingJan 20 01:06
schestowitzwho'se presentJan 20 01:06
schestowitzwhat you're doingJan 20 01:06
schestowitzand send ads based on thatJan 20 01:06
schestowitzbasically acting as infromants on viewersJan 20 01:06
schestowitz!google lg tv spying on viewerJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[1] - Samsung Television Spies on Viewers - Schneier on Security | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/02/samsung_televis.htmlJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[2] - Some Samsung, LG, and Vizio TV's now spy on you - Story | http://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/some-samsung-lg-and-vizio-tvs-now-spy-on-youJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[3] - Your Smart TV Could Be Spying on You | Clark Howard | http://www.clarkhoward.com/your-smart-tv-spying-youJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[4] - Not in front of the telly: Warning over 'listening' TV - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31296188Jan 20 01:06
schestowitzOh, Samsung tooJan 20 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689614976781148161Jan 20 01:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I think you fail to understand how SSH works which is why @tqbf is mocking you. @rosynaJan 20 01:07
schestowitzI've used SSH for almost two decades, that troll just put fake words in my mouthJan 20 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615108608110592Jan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz By the same token, baseband attacks are real, if rarely discussed @tqbf probably read https://t.co/1KUJKWAPzp already @rosynaJan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.usenix.org | Baseband Attacks: Remote Exploitation of Memory Corruptions in Cellular Protocol Stacks | USENIXJan 20 01:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615324287610881Jan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna past research has shown that baseband compromises can lead to much more actually @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615429199790080Jan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna but I do not see any claims here that there are *new* baseband attacks, though they could be private? @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:08
oiaohmYep history of baseband attacks say they should be presumed extremely bad until proven otherwise.Jan 20 01:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689615640659759104   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615649425850368Jan 20 01:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf That's a presentation discussing the same issues from the Jan 2011 article.Jan 20 01:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I think getting into an argument with @tqbf is one of those "never get involved in a land war in Asia" pitfalls. ;) @rosynaJan 20 01:10
schestowitzThanks for the warningJan 20 01:10
schestowitzoiaohm: like with most proprietary softwareJan 20 01:11
schestowitzesp. on phonesJan 20 01:11
schestowitznow that government wants to snoop on everything and demands back doors in phones etc.Jan 20 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689615981480546305Jan 20 01:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf The iPhone compromise attacks a key vulnerability in the A4 and earlier that was fixed in the A5 and later.Jan 20 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689616247684608000Jan 20 01:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf The vulnerability made it trivial to run arbitrary code. So I consider that an invalid attack on the A5+.Jan 20 01:12
schestowitzmaybe we just don't know (yet) of similar holes in A5+Jan 20 01:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689616386990026753Jan 20 01:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna Yep, old research! I don't know of anyone currently owned up to new baseband exploits, though they could exist. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689616521094569984Jan 20 01:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna owning* Albeit, if I had such things, I probably wouldn't discuss them openly in today's climate. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:13
schestowitzcould make a killing selling them to some intel' agency on either side of the cold war, it's universal accessJan 20 01:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689616782391271424Jan 20 01:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf Since the flaw used was fixed (it was a really stupid flaw), a new theoretical mechanism must be presented.Jan 20 01:14
schestowitz https://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689616796861657088   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689616882966523905Jan 20 01:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @tqbf @schestowitz I think this fellow has severely misinterpreted some material but @msolnik identified a scenario that creates problemsJan 20 01:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna given past precedent @schestowitz stipulations aren't outlandish, but would need to be precipitated by new baseband vulns. @tqbfJan 20 01:15
schestowitzA senior engineer who came to my house explained to me how the Home Hub is backdoors upon each rebootJan 20 01:15
schestowitzA senior engineer who came to my house explained to me how the Home Hub is backdoored upon each rebootJan 20 01:15
schestowitz*BT engineerJan 20 01:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689617035496546304   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617172579004417Jan 20 01:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf Why? Jailbreakers would absolutely *love* such an unfixable bug.Jan 20 01:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna Agreed. I believe such things can (& probably do exist) but without examples, remain like monsters under the bed. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689617226769440769Jan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @tqbf @schestowitz @msolnik this fellow being @schestowitz, not solnik.Jan 20 01:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617372508848128Jan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna I have stronger affinity to Apple as a vendor than jailbreakers at the moment. ;) @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:17
schestowitzApple's Jobs did start as somewhat of a jailbreakerJan 20 01:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617554839441409   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617648334671872Jan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz that may be true, but probably not the sort of thing that would be publicized if found given such contexts. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz which relegates it into the "you're not paranoid, but you can't do anything about that right now" land. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:17
schestowitzI wish OpenMoko had succeededJan 20 01:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617876177682433Jan 20 01:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz sure, and he ended as he currently is: dead. He's not being resurrected, that would've happened already I think? @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689618074043985920Jan 20 01:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz I'm confused.Jan 20 01:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618102540075008Jan 20 01:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz egads logical fallacy "Improper Transposition" foul! Backdoor BT gear is not a Baseband used by Apple. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:20
schestowitzThe analogy came from tbbfJan 20 01:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618301375291392Jan 20 01:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I am much more interested in encrypted tech which sheds vestiges of telco entirely, e.g. PSYC2, SILC, etc. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689618530094870528Jan 20 01:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @rhymebyter @tqbf I'm not sure how the BT Home Hub relates to iOS or Signal,although I'd consider ISP supplied routers insecureJan 20 01:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618676266303488Jan 20 01:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I am unsure, this may be where twitter's failings become resplendent, but repeating past fallacies isn't helpful @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618919049396224   https://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689618940280995840Jan 20 01:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna yeah, DOCSIS is more or less a veritable how-to on making a user-hostile corporate friendly backdoor. ;_; @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @rhymebyter @tqbf And that's why I'd use things like TLS 1.2 (PFS) and Signal, as if I was at Starbucks using their wifi.Jan 20 01:23
schestowitzHope to receive my #purism #librem test unit soon so I can test it for any potential of back doorsJan 20 01:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689619341889765376Jan 20 01:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf Signal, HTTPS Everywhere, Application Transport Security are designed to assume hostile by default.Jan 20 01:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689619628041998336Jan 20 01:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna they aren't unique in that. I still wish Signal would *not* ask for a phone number, at all. Bad metadata, bad. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689620951797882880Jan 20 01:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz I think this fellow believes OMA DM pivots to a jailbreak = baseband haxJan 20 01:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689621427750711297Jan 20 01:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz hmm didn't see the OMA reference. But either way it's another reason why Signal is so important - layers.Jan 20 01:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689621822870913024Jan 20 01:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz but fwiw - we did get baseband code exec with OMA on basebands with it directly built in (not iPhone).Jan 20 01:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689621938633777152Jan 20 01:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @rosyna Right, but the iPhone isn’t a shared-memory design.Jan 20 01:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689622087330213888Jan 20 01:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna @rhymebyter The holes we’re talking about, even if they existed today, still don’t root your AP, which was your claim.Jan 20 01:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689622284529590272Jan 20 01:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz were you ever able to pivot from baseband to application processor?Jan 20 01:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_supernothing/status/689622387881472000Jan 20 01:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@_supernothing: @ebeip90 Too bad OpenMoko didn't succeed, or that'd be a thing of the past /s https://t.co/K2ABxbjeHXJan 20 01:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @rhymebyter @rosyna @tqbf I wish OpenMoko had succeededJan 20 01:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689623482020159488  https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689623701097086976   https://twitter.com/chronic/status/689623743639994368Jan 20 01:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz yes.Both ways, code exec in BB let us pivot and vice versa for AP.On newer devices that needed more vulnsJan 20 01:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @msolnik @PatrickMcCanna @schestowitz Because of bugs in AP handling of HSIC messages?Jan 20 01:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chronic: @rosyna @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf this is hilariousJan 20 01:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chronic/status/689624089733009412   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689624251716935680   https://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689624257186267136Jan 20 01:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chronic: @schestowitz @tqbf I would love for even a slight shred of evidence that the RTOS on iOS baseband has ever been able to exploit the main AP.Jan 20 01:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @chronic @schestowitz I’m sure it’s possible. Everything has bugs.Jan 20 01:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @tqbf @PatrickMcCanna @schestowitz if only it were that tough. Any of the user land apps that can parse incoming BB traffic is a target.Jan 20 01:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689624377281814528Jan 20 01:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @msolnik @PatrickMcCanna @schestowitz Oh, of course. That makes sense. BB -> AP userland -> AP kernel?Jan 20 01:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689624754219646976Jan 20 01:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @tqbf @PatrickMcCanna @schestowitz exactly. The new hotness now though is the basebands on PCIe buses ;-).Jan 20 01:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AnarchistDalek/status/689626626506625024Jan 20 01:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AnarchistDalek: #REKT https://t.co/XucPgfwzWkJan 20 01:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: For fsck's SAKKE: GCHQ-built phone voice encryption has massive backdoor – researcher https://t.co/ReZNs4R8Cc #gchq an enemy of #democracyJan 20 01:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chronic/status/689626759004864512Jan 20 01:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chronic: @tqbf @schestowitz the baseband was exploited many years ago, to patch for unlocking. still zero-access to the AP though.Jan 20 01:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689628097927208961   https://twitter.com/bizzyunderscore/status/689628183696510976   https://twitter.com/Gordon_Carswell/status/689628242576306176   https://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689628607455465472Jan 20 02:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @chronic @tqbf @schestowitz The OMA exploit we demo'ed at BH2014 could have easily been used as a BB->AP privesc.Jan 20 02:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bizzyunderscore: @chronic @rosyna @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf but the evil baseband is watching my ssh passwords!!11Jan 20 02:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Gordon_Carswell: What he said... https://t.co/8dRvdOdOD5Jan 20 02:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Google is letting #Android users install apps directly from search results https://t.co/4qRbpSAA1g very bad ideaJan 20 02:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @chronic @tqbf @schestowitz Heck - even the SIM card was shown to get AP code exec on iPhones in 2015.Jan 20 02:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689629124445413376Jan 20 02:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @bizzyunderscore hypothetically, that *would* be a more interesting vuln than last week's SSH infoleak. @chronic @rosyna @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 02:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689630870748041216Jan 20 02:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @tqbf @chronic @schestowitz fwiw why exploit hexagon (hard) when you have plenty of userland image parsers etc that require much less work.Jan 20 02:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chronic/status/689632853034950656Jan 20 02:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chronic: @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz any resource for this? I would be very surprised if any useful level of AP access was possible.Jan 20 02:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689634148047200257  https://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689634554965954560Jan 20 02:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @chronic @tqbf @schestowitz https://t.co/OS1nAzsM6X mine - cellular based iOS JB. The SIM card stuff was by a guy from EndGame.Jan 20 02:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @chronic @tqbf @schestowitz even at the basic userland level - CommCenter is a rich (and huge -30mb+) target...Jan 20 02:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ChaosDatumz/status/689634982772367360Jan 20 02:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ChaosDatumz: @chronic @schestowitz @tqbf https://t.co/hpzyJ22wXt via @MarcBlanchou and @msolnikJan 20 02:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.blackhat.com | Black Hat USA 2014 | BriefingsJan 20 02:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689638280543936512Jan 20 02:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @jyasskin @schestowitz The baseband does not have that access. It’s connected via HSIC; it’s like a modem connected via serial.Jan 20 02:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689638359057063938  https://twitter.com/jyasskin/status/689640233390907392  https://twitter.com/jyasskin/status/689640456481742848  https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689640553944776704   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689640627374424065Jan 20 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @jyasskin @schestowitz If the baseband had direct access to all memory, obviously this argument would be moot.Jan 20 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jyasskin: @tqbf @schestowitz https://t.co/iODNLZju0c says "the baseband processor is usually the master processor", which I think means full access?Jan 20 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mobile.osnews.com | OSNews.comJan 20 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jyasskin: @tqbf @schestowitz In any case, this is the core of your disagreement, not anything about whether ssh can be exploited by a hostile network.Jan 20 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @jyasskin @schestowitz ??? noJan 20 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @jyasskin @schestowitz This isn’t a “disagreement”. You can literally look up the part number for the iPhone 6 baseband.Jan 20 02:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/689643250462892032Jan 20 03:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz What do you think Redmond's chances are of convincing a FOSS Force visitor to buy a Surface? Let them waste their money.Jan 20 03:05
schestowitzWould rather not see the ads (I don't see any myself), but others do... and it annoys them, hence my headsupJan 20 03:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689649444917129216Jan 20 03:26
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @msolnik @chronic @tqbf @schestowitz redbends has a history of delivering software updates that don't brick devicesJan 20 03:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689650110171451392Jan 20 03:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @chronic @tqbf @schestowitz Heh bricked devices would prevent them from gaining remote access ;).Jan 20 03:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SteamAdd/status/689762815482159104Jan 20 10:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SteamAdd: Can you please add me on Steam: Hodennase https://t.co/QvSKcn4aekJan 20 10:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: That Dragon, Cancer is now doing a Linux release on Steam https://t.co/vQoXfG694R #games #gnu #linux #steamJan 20 10:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/689771206107598848Jan 20 11:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz hrmbl. That article still claims #Munich uses #OpenOffice. Munich switched to #LibreOffice however.Jan 20 11:28
schestowitzContact @softpediaJan 20 11:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/689771605673771008Jan 20 11:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Vecchi_Paolo: @jwildeboer Right now 150K users of the Italian MoD are being trained to switch from MS Office to #LibreOffice ;-) @schestowitzJan 20 11:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689776106858160128   https://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689776471401897984Jan 20 11:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz Meh, this is exploiting parsing bugs in userland code that parses data from the network.Jan 20 11:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz (As mentioned, image parsing bugs are easier to find and exploit)Jan 20 11:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689776930086780928Jan 20 11:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz the "meh" was "it's legit but depends on bugs in userland code, not just owning the network interface"Jan 20 11:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689777710361501696Jan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz And am I reading that right, only Sprint iOS devices support OMA-DM (for iOS devices)?Jan 20 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/infosecretwit/status/689780806315855872Jan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@infosecretwit: https://t.co/SKJaDy4OP0 #Microsoft ’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use #Vista10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate … https://t.co/8UpinuNnAlJan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Microsoft ’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use #Vista10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux https://t.co/dSpt53HJ6OJan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use Vista 10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux | TechrightsJan 20 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/689781173455867904Jan 20 12:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jurasick: @schestowitz #Microsoft has a stranglehold on hardware manufacturers who don't create updated, bug-free drivers for #Linux. Such a shame.Jan 20 12:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/689187111119921152Jan 20 23:02
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TechBytesBotHello World! I'm TechBytesBot running phIRCe v0.75Jan 20 23:03
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> It'll be a busy day but I was thirsty & the cats woke me up, so before I go toJan 20 23:18
schestowitz> work here you have:Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> battistelli_under_fire_from_franceJan 20 23:18
schestowitz> philip-cordery-in-englishJan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> Have a nice WednesdayJan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> EduardoJan 20 23:18
schestowitzThanks, just in time for ongoing French political action, see details later todayJan 20 23:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/689950851893465088Jan 20 23:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@georgebaily: @schestowitz video "views" became a marketing KPI for pointy haired managersJan 20 23:34
schestowitzewwwJan 20 23:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/689950569289641985Jan 20 23:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: @schestowitz @BrendanEich for Android it demands Crashlytics & youtube apikeys?? To send dumps somewhere and track video I watch? FCK ((Jan 20 23:35
schestowitz"Jan 20 23:51
schestowitzDear Roy,Jan 20 23:52
schestowitzhere the translation you requested in your last post.Jan 20 23:52
schestowitzKing regards.Jan 20 23:52
schestowitz"Jan 20 23:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689961766319689729Jan 21 00:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Jimmy Savile inquiry reveals predatory child abuser could be lurking undiscovered. He is actually @schestowitz https://t.co/93xILD90ZQJan 21 00:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Jimmy Savile inquiry leak reveals scathing criticism of BBC | UK news | The GuardianJan 21 00:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/689972067194773504Jan 21 00:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: What's happening at the @linuxfoundation ? No more individual members? Community reps? https://t.co/TSeNPDyhdl cc @schestowitzJan 21 00:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Linux Foundation quietly drops community representationJan 21 00:54
schestowitza part of me wonders if mjg is just trying to bolster his pro-bsd jihad or anti-torvalds spiel right there (as he did canonical)Jan 21 00:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/689974900711411716   https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/689975821394690048Jan 21 01:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz well, taking voting/nomination rights away from individual members without explanation does smell fishy.Jan 21 01:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz unannounced (AFAICS) bylaw changes that downgrade indiv members to supporters is def worth explanation.Jan 21 01:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/689980470449283072Jan 21 01:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Guess it's time to jump ship. BSD's seem truer to communities and individuals.Jan 21 01:21
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6972432Jan 21 02:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Calls for boycotting Samsung https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/689529450577301504 I called for it 9 years ago http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SamsungJan 21 02:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@internetofshit: Smart TVs that add advertising to the UI are unacceptable. A reason to boycott Samsung. https://t.co/LXxXtcAuDOJan 21 02:00
schestowitz"love voiding warranties!"Jan 21 02:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Samsung - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/29dd2 ]Jan 21 02:00
schestowitzVoid/de-viriginise the TVJan 21 02:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6973441Jan 21 02:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Android users should panic" http://betanews.com/2016/01/19/linux-vulnerability-puts-millions-of-people-at-risk-android-users-should-panic/ come on, @brianfagioli , the built-in back doors are greater cause for concernJan 21 02:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> betanews.com | Linux vulnerability puts millions of people at risk -- Android users should panic [ http://ur1.ca/ofnfy ]Jan 21 02:01
schestowitz"Lol poor attempt to drive new linux users back to windows"Jan 21 02:01
schestowitzyeah, looks like itJan 21 02:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966908Jan 21 02:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pastry Shops Targeted Over Copyright Infringing “Star Wars” and “Minion” Cakes https://torrentfreak.com/pastry-shops-targeted-over-copyright-infringing-star-wars-and-minion-cakes-160115/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/croatian-cake-pirates-threatened-with-lawsuits/Jan 21 02:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | Pastry Shops Targeted Over Copyright Infringing "Star Wars" and "Minion" Cakes - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ofeit ]Jan 21 02:01
schestowitz"Sure, but it’s surprising that local people would collaborate."Jan 21 02:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | Croatian cake pirates threatened with lawsuits | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ofeiu ]Jan 21 02:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Goukas/status/6899998526845911077Jan 21 02:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-No status found with that ID.Jan 21 02:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Goukas/status/689999852684591107Jan 21 02:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Goukas: Peter does Microsoft with journo hat at today's 'journalism'... https://t.co/PgSjkeCaVBJan 21 02:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #microsoft Peter does Microsoft #marketing with journo hat at #condenast https://t.co/V6C4lfGR1h today's 'journalism'...Jan 21 02:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6974179Jan 21 02:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: RemixOS Now Respects Both #GPL and #Apache Licenses http://news.softpedia.com/news/remix-os-now-respects-both-the-gpl-and-apache-licenses-499173.shtml http://ostatic.com/blog/with-remix-os-run-android-apps-on-your-pcJan 21 02:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Remix OS Now Respects Both GPL and Apache Licenses [ http://ur1.ca/ofnk6 ]Jan 21 02:45
schestowitz"I was reading something about a very creepy, Chinese Government, EULA for RemixOS. Not at all GPL compatible."Jan 21 02:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ostatic.com | With Remix OS, Run Android Apps on Your PC [ http://ur1.ca/ofnk7 ]Jan 21 02:45
schestowitzThey don't seem to care much about copyrightsJan 21 02:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/karthik_ak/status/690065863999905792Jan 21 08:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@karthik_ak: @schestowitz people are stupid, they won't escape from Microsoft.Jan 21 08:37
schestowitzSome might, some always doJan 21 08:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690063434227027968  https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690073442427801600 https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690075644257013761Jan 21 08:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @fsfe @ggreve Well, that's not what I would call a democratic organization?Jan 21 08:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @fsfe @ggreve like any other organization, any board member can be reelected every year by the entire member base.Jan 21 08:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @ggreve @fsfe maybe every two years then.Jan 21 08:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690091081376108544Jan 21 08:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz as crappy as your front-page :-)Jan 21 08:51
schestowitzIt's not built for regulars but for newcomersJan 21 08:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690094869457604608Jan 21 08:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz New comers are lost if they want to read the latest stories by arriving on the front-page.Jan 21 08:56
schestowitzYes, but consider that different people want to follow different topics/themesJan 21 08:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sw1ayfe/status/690097462112096256Jan 21 09:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sw1ayfe: @schestowitz I agree w/ @zoobab on this one. Fan of your content but front page never the entry route. My brain thinks it's too busy.Jan 21 09:09
schestowitzWhat would you like to see in the front page (most handy to you)?Jan 21 09:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6974144Jan 21 09:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why is Sam Dean still acting like somewhat of a #microsoft PR person? I mean, look at this. Is Nadella paying? http://ostatic.com/blog/microsofts-ceo-says-the-company-will-donate-1-billion-in-cloud-servicesJan 21 09:21
schestowitz"Saw some of this over on G+. Some services are worth less than not having them."Jan 21 09:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> ostatic.com | Microsoft's CEO Says the Company Will Donate $1 Billion in Cloud ServicesJan 21 09:21
schestowitzIt's strange when they frame this as "philanthropy" (the publicity stunt they launched when accused by IRS of massive tax evasion)Jan 21 09:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sw1ayfe/status/690116402867478529Jan 21 10:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sw1ayfe: @schestowitz en route so wil get back later. First thoughts for newbie who are you why should i care wtf is going down where to get more 1/2Jan 21 10:22
schestowitzI think that's what the front page does at the moment, harder to find latest news thoughJan 21 10:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sw1ayfe/status/690117264893419520Jan 21 10:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sw1ayfe: @schestowitz 2/2 nav menu more like folders on YOUR desktop than guiding solutions to a users questionsJan 21 10:25
schestowitzThanksJan 21 10:25
schestowitz> https://brave.com/#aboutJan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 10:34
schestowitz> https://brave.com/#fasterJan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 10:34
schestowitz> https://github.com/brave/browser-laptopJan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | brave/browser-laptop: Brave browser for Desktop and Laptop computers running Windows, OSX, and LinuxJan 21 10:34
schestowitz>Jan 21 10:34
schestowitz> Licensed under MPL according to source code, but missing a traditionalJan 21 10:34
schestowitz> LICENSE or COPYING file.  Not all source files contain licensing info.Jan 21 10:34
schestowitzMaybe not yet camera-ready. I chatted with Brendan yesterday, should I pass this feedback to him?Jan 21 10:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mall_dweller/status/690120280581246976Jan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mall_dweller: @schestowitz It's pathetic. Can't imagine why anyone taking themselves seriously would attend that clownsfestival.Jan 21 10:34
schestowitz> On 01/21/2016 12:34 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#aboutJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#fasterJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> https://github.com/brave/browser-laptopJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>>Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> Licensed under MPL according to source code, but missing a traditionalJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> LICENSE or COPYING file.  Not all source files contain licensing info.Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>> Maybe not yet camera-ready. I chatted with Brendan yesterday, should IJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>> pass this feedback to him?Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz>Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz> It would be nice to have the i's dotted and the t's crossed.  Not allJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> the files have copyright attribution so without a blanket license forJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> the whole project, they are not FOSS.  But I only checked theJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> 'browser-laptop' code, if it's elsewhere, then the license should beJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> copied to each subproject so that it is guaranteed to contain licensingJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> information.Jan 21 11:03
schestowitzI've just told Brendan.Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz> On 01/21/2016 12:34 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#aboutJan 21 11:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#fasterJan 21 11:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> https://github.com/brave/browser-laptopJan 21 11:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | brave/browser-laptop: Brave browser for Desktop and Laptop computers running Windows, OSX, and LinuxJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>>Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> Licensed under MPL according to source code, but missing a traditionalJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> LICENSE or COPYING file.  Not all source files contain licensing info.Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz>>Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz>> Maybe not yet camera-ready. I chatted with Brendan yesterday, should IJan 21 11:04
schestowitz>> pass this feedback to him?Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz>Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz> It would be nice to have the i's dotted and the t's crossed.  Not allJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> the files have copyright attribution so without a blanket license forJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> the whole project, they are not FOSS.  But I only checked theJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> 'browser-laptop' code, if it's elsewhere, then the license should beJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> copied to each subproject so that it is guaranteed to contain licensingJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> information.Jan 21 11:04
schestowitzI've just told Brendan.Jan 21 11:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690094869457604608Jan 21 11:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz New comers are lost if they want to read the latest stories by arriving on the front-page.Jan 21 11:30
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-draft-uk-legislation-on.html?showComment=1453335606349#c2397740138677994917Jan 21 11:42
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: BREAKING NEWS - Draft UK Legislation on Unitary Patent and Unified Patents Court [ http://ur1.ca/ofp3z ]Jan 21 11:42
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:42
schestowitz Game over?? Yer man at the EPO was put there to make this happen. Cant wait to hear his triumphant diatribe in his next blog on news of this ( he will probably take the credit for helping perfidious Albion "see the right way to go)Jan 21 11:42
schestowitzAt least now - finally! (and its just a question of time before the UK ratify) - the focus can lift from the EPO and how wonderfully it is being managed (not) to patent attorneys and the issues you will have in making this work.Jan 21 11:42
schestowitzBrexit? ,,,,,,,those people in Davos this week will not let this happen. Too much to lose.Jan 21 11:42
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:42
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1453363523773#c6015949221798745938Jan 21 11:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/ofp42 ]Jan 21 11:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:43
schestowitz My understanding (admittedly from the frothing-at-the-mouth Techrights) is that Topic did not turn up at the Croatian court, and the case was "discontinued".Jan 21 11:43
schestowitzWas this because a final judgement might have said that Topic did do what was alleged, whereas a discontinuance could be spun as a case "not proven"?Jan 21 11:43
schestowitzExasperantoJan 21 11:43
schestowitz[PS - it is a fine world when we have to rely on idiots like Techrights to obtain any information,]Jan 21 11:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:43
schestowitzbloody bizarre article https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/richard-masterson-did-a-dubious-confession-sway-a-medical-examiners-autopsy-in-a-texas-death-penalty-case/Jan 21 14:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-theintercept.com | Did a Dubious Confession Sway a Medical Examiner’s Autopsy in a Texas Death Penalty Case? [ http://ur1.ca/ofi72 ]Jan 21 14:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/690178744875683841Jan 21 14:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: This is only a partial truth @schestowitz https://t.co/V3arhYHBzzJan 21 14:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Independent: Leaked review identifies more than 100 BBC employees who had 'heard about Savile’s sexual conduct' https://t.co/XTqvdS5MhKJan 21 14:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mickjosi/status/690178338737000448Jan 21 14:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mickjosi: @schestowitz @All4Privacy @OpenRightsGroup the technical gap between citizens and governments is getting smallerJan 21 14:29
schestowitzvJan 21 16:40
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-draft-uk-legislation-on.html?showComment=1453389708417#c6360839012276094901Jan 21 16:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: BREAKING NEWS - Draft UK Legislation on Unitary Patent and Unified Patents Court [ http://ur1.ca/ofq50 ]Jan 21 16:40
schestowitz"Jan 21 16:40
schestowitz Confused catJan 21 16:40
schestowitzThis matter is unlikely to excite Parliament - now. IP legislation stirs up more trouble than most, and I suspect that is why the unusual approach of allowing secondary legislation to amend primary legislation was adopted.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzHowever, the UP Regulation requires "The participating Member States shall ensure compliance with this Regulation in fulfilling their international obligations undertaken in the EPC and shall cooperate to that end" which implies that the participating Member States should meet their EPC obligations unless contrary to the regulation.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzOf course, the UPC would have no jurisdiction in the matter of determining whether applying different law to a national patent than to a unitary patent or European patent was a breach of its obligations by the UK: but the CJEU would.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzI have now noted some more problems with the SI which I am posting here and which mirrors discussions in IpKat last year here.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzWhat a shambles.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitz"Jan 21 16:40
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schestowitzMinceR:Jan 21 17:47
schestowitz[–]directhex [score hidden] 49 minutes agoJan 21 17:47
schestowitzBoycott Novell is not a credible source, it's FOSS Infowars.Jan 21 17:47
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/420l5d/the_linux_foundation_has_become_like_a_corporate/Jan 21 17:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | The Linux Foundation Has Become Like a Corporate Think Tank, Microsoft Influence Included : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ofqg4 ]Jan 21 17:47
schestowitzreddit mono boostersJan 21 17:47
schestowitzhe works for xamarin nowJan 21 17:47
schestowitzMS moneyJan 21 17:47
MinceRno surpriseJan 21 17:48
schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/O6-SjhIKnZs/A2cZdmusCQAJJan 21 17:49
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schestowitz"Jan 21 17:49
schestowitzFunny shit.Jan 21 17:49
schestowitzRoy is a few bricks shy of a full load, but even he knows a faggot whenJan 21 17:50
schestowitzhe meets one.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzhttp://www.eenyhelp.com/answer/schestowitz-calls-snit-homosexual-Jan 21 17:50
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schestowitzhelp-205124601.html?page=3Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzchestowitz snit got banned by goblin today Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz not that I expected it Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll I saw that Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz he's still lurking and trolling our other channels OctJan 21 17:50
schestowitz15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz The guy is mentally deranged Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll Wouldnt surprise me Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll Has been for years... Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz IIRC he used to obsess over you in USENET, although IJan 21 17:50
schestowitznever read into those threads Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll I was looking over the site with the music Tim used OctJan 21 17:50
schestowitz15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz*schestowitz I think he's like a closet homosexual Oct 15 03:25*Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz [michael] Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll I dunno... but he is a pathological liar Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz or just morbidly obsessed with people Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/i0zUM9Rgnk8/7t734VfyDgAJJan 21 17:50
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgq ]Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz> K00k.  Following me around like a soiled diaper!Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz>Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzPathetic, isn't it?Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzSince Roy Schestowitz quit responding, you apparently became the mainJan 21 17:50
schestowitztarget.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzYou must have pissed off these lunatics one way or the other.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzDon't worry Chris, they aren't even worth your attention.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzTake care!Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzmy stalker active yesterdayJan 21 17:51
schestowitzin a forum I've not been in for many yearsJan 21 17:52
schestowitzDr. Schestowitz has NEVER offered evidence for anything he's saidJan 21 17:52
schestowitzwithout using his own articles. It would be like the National EnquirerJan 21 17:52
schestowitzproviding previous National Enquirer articles as evidence that they areJan 21 17:52
schestowitztelling the truth. I don't mind the fact that he's trying to showcaseJan 21 17:52
schestowitzhow horrible Microsoft and the system of proprietary software developersJan 21 17:52
schestowitzis but his articles and especially his manner of speech make GNU/LinuxJan 21 17:52
schestowitzand its users look even worse than they already make themselves look.Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzsource: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/s5oSEd6fua4/144qqbAIEgAJJan 21 17:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgv ]Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzhe's still talking I seeJan 21 17:52
schestowitzthis from today:Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/FueDJuRaCXg/mq_sIwh9EgAJJan 21 17:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgx ]Jan 21 17:52
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzWhether then or now, GNU/Linux just doesn't work properly for theJan 21 17:52
schestowitzaverage consumer. Back then, it was a bad joke but today, it will workJan 21 17:52
schestowitzbut only if your hardware is fairly dated; anything recent is likely toJan 21 17:52
schestowitzhave sound, video and network issues. You'll say that it's a lie butJan 21 17:52
schestowitzyou're about as credible as the "president" of this newsgroup andJan 21 17:52
schestowitz"Doctor" Schestowitz.Jan 21 17:52
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzdocker just contacted meJan 21 18:38
schestowitz> Roy,Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> I  just wanted to make sure that you saw the announcement today thatJan 21 18:38
schestowitz> Docker has acquired Unikernel Systems. The release is available here andJan 21 18:38
schestowitz> pasted below:Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160121005388/en/Docker-Acquires-Unikernel-Systems-Extend-Breadth-DockerJan 21 18:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.businesswire.com | Docker Acquires Unikernel Systems to Extend the Breadth of the Docker Platform | Business Wire [ http://ur1.ca/ofqq3 ]Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> . I’m also attaching a briefing doc with additional info.Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> Please let me know if you have any questions.Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitzSeen it and wrote about it hours ago.Jan 21 18:38
schestowitzhttp://tuxmachines.org/node/84978Jan 21 18:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-tuxmachines.org | Docker buys Unikernel Systems | Tux MachinesJan 21 18:38
schestowitzIf one of your execs want to do an email interview for publication in tux machines, please let me know... we'd be happy.Jan 21 18:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6972432Jan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Calls for boycotting Samsung https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/689529450577301504 I called for it 9 years ago http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SamsungJan 21 23:43
schestowitz"I don’t have a Samsung, but I thought if somebody was following our chat, they might. I had a crap Toshiba a few years ago that tried very hard to be smart, I think it was running an early version of tizen, judging from the error codes it occasionally threw at me when I tortured it…"Jan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@internetofshit: Smart TVs that add advertising to the UI are unacceptable. A reason to boycott Samsung. https://t.co/LXxXtcAuDOJan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Samsung - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/29dd2 ]Jan 21 23:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzSamsung phones are expensive and poor quality compared to other (chinese) makers.Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzI expect Tizen to be an OS more hackable than Android, since it should run a regular linux kernel and wayland, it should be possible to run linux software almost unmodified. But we’ll have to wait to see how it is.Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzThe real problem are the drivers, almost no maker releases the sources but only binary blobs, and port for example cyanogenmod or AOKP is most of the times a pain in the ass.Jan 21 23:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966257Jan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton: Israel First http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/hillary-clinton-israel-first/ just look at her backers...Jan 21 23:43
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schestowitz"but the picture ;)"Jan 21 23:44
schestowitzit's quality...Jan 21 23:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966236Jan 21 23:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/ http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-pcs-with-intel-skylake-processors-wont-support-windows-78-1/Jan 21 23:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/of6wm ]Jan 21 23:44
schestowitz"I was not being optimistic ,infact I see a grim future , this is just a start . I am just sayin’ privacy-aware people will try to switch from windows more often than nowdays . rest assure , microsoft will hang on to this , never to let go ."Jan 21 23:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6972432Jan 22 00:32
schestowitz"too true, drivers are always the fly in the ointment"Jan 22 00:32
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MinceRtizen is lendowsJan 22 01:44
MinceRit has both cancerd and kdbusJan 22 01:45
MinceRit's less unix than android isJan 22 01:45
MinceRit's crapJan 22 01:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GedalaC/status/690350352021983233Jan 22 01:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GedalaC: I liked avideo160121 EXO kai sehun Focus at Golden Disk Awards https://t.co/IgLOYfdf4WJan 22 01:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #nsa which breaks #encryption & puts back doors in encryption pretends to be pro-encryption https://t.co/uuxeq8PyYZ https://t.co/PJkIqRNGObJan 22 01:52
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oiaohmMinceR: history if tizen is constant mind changing so who knows.Jan 22 03:31
oiaohmMinceR: opp history of tizen should be start of line.  ]Jan 22 03:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/690431558898024448Jan 22 09:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @SuedByGalloway @BBCNewsnight They can't hold a candle to Soros's.Jan 22 09:17
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schestowitz> Thanks.  I thought that github had some kind of reminder for that sortJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> of thing, but either way it is on the way to being fixed.Jan 22 11:36
schestowitz>Jan 22 11:36
schestowitz> PS.  FWIW the circumstances in which California canceled Prop 8 wereJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> decidedly undemocratic and really should be a big warning for far worseJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> violations of democratic process.  But the fags were so greedy aboutJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> victory at any cost that the problem they have permitted is forgotten.Jan 22 11:36
schestowitz> Be sure that it will come back to bite California again later in aJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> different context.Jan 22 11:36
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schestowitz"Jan 22 17:04
schestowitz1 unread messageJan 22 17:04
schestowitzBrendanEichJan 22 17:04
schestowitzsee "Streisand effect" lolJan 22 17:04
schestowitz"Jan 22 17:04
schestowitzright, I've seen lots of that when I exposed corruption at the EPO http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO was similar with NovellJan 22 17:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsJan 22 17:05
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schestowitzbought by MS as I recallJan 22 17:33
schestowitzBrendanEichJan 22 17:33
schestowitzNovell, not the EPO :-DJan 22 17:33
schestowitzBrendanEichJan 22 17:33
schestowitzi hope the EC as a whole is not for sale. this year may tell us moreJan 22 17:33
schestowitzEPO got caught in a Microsoft-related scandal (that's why they threatened to sue me before running away.... Streisand Effect). Microsoft now has Novell's patents (in CPTN), as it wished all along. I love the EU/EC and I hope it gets better by ousting those who opportunistically turn reform into THEIR reform, e.g. UPC, software patents...Jan 22 17:35
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-draft-uk-legislation-on.html?showComment=1453480096373#c1058611746717412266Jan 22 18:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: BREAKING NEWS - Draft UK Legislation on Unitary Patent and Unified Patents Court [ http://ur1.ca/ofwau ]Jan 22 18:54
schestowitz"Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzI have no wish to add to the misery illuminated by Confused cat, but it needs to come out into the open.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe EU tries hard to pretend it is already a federal union by introducing functions that belong to such an entity: free passage across internal borders and a common court system. The first has been a failure due to a lack of consideration that external borders then need protecting, and the second because there is no consensus. Naive romanticism has driven the politicians to these premature initiatives. The region is being taken advantage of.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzObviously it could be a good idea to have a common patent for all of the EU states, but it must be based on the foundations of patent law, i.e. identical judicial treatment of all users of the system. By pressing ahead with blinkers the patent obtained in the "enhanced cooperation" is a cripple, due to the open wound that an applicant having his application rejected is prevented from getting the same judicial treatment of his cause as one whoJan 22 18:54
schestowitzhas obtained a patent: several instances of appeal.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzBy relying on a subsupplier whose only interest is to administer patent fees and twisting the EPC an unlucky applicant will not even have the independent evaluation by the Boards of Appeal, because the appeals system is being cropped under the eyes of the EPO governing body, the AC.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzIt is completely unreasonable that what purports to be a patent with unitary effect is not based on a patent application with equal treatment.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe harmonisation of the patent laws of the member states, where there has until now been equal treatment according to local patent laws, will lead to a system where the inequality will be manifest. The UPC/UP system does not contain one iota of promise that it will turn out otherwise.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe only fair way to resolve this is to revise the EPC in order to enable submission of a rejection to the normal appeal possibilities.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe decision to try for a UP should be made early, at the time of application. UP applications should have examination by the EPO*), appeal to the BoA, and be able to continue in the UPC if the BoA result is unsatisfactory. Maybe the reason it has not developed this way is that it was considered undesirable to revise the EPC. It is a can of worms, but inevitable if the rule of law is to apply. We shall need to put the UPC/UP system on holdJan 22 18:54
schestowitzuntil all of that has been sorted out. There are still a few countries left who can ensure that.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzOtherwise we shall end up with a patent system that is worse than the US system. On the other hand, if the Patent Prosecution Highway develops such that all US grants will automatically become EP grants, it will not matter, provided deadlines are suitably adjusted. Go the American way will be the order of the day!Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzGeorge Brock-NannestadJan 22 18:54
schestowitz*) although no good has come of having the EPO act as a self-governing monopolistic Collossus. But it is there and functional to some degree. It is incomprehensible that the EPO as a mere subsupplier on this shaky foundation is permitted to promote the UPC/UP system so vigorously.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitz"Jan 22 18:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/690594374485434368   https://twitter.com/alain_vde/status/690611852334751744Jan 22 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bastianbest: @schestowitz true, the @EPOorg grants patents for #inventions - both implemented with bolts&rivets or with #softwareJan 22 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alain_vde: OH CRAP! https://t.co/l6se1DHRf4Jan 22 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "The European Patent Office (EPO) has been granting software patents in Europe" https://t.co/CMIUWvePoB #epo #patents #swpatsJan 22 19:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/690561671744622593  https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/690596042648244224Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @darth Don't hate.Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @HayesBrown that url thoJan 22 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/690517089254297600Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @mikko Hot leeks. https://t.co/94fqKOswaPJan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @mikko Hot leeks. https://t.co/94fqKOswaPJan 22 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/waltorr/status/690560699311923202Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@waltorr: @Snowden This undoes all the good you've done.Jan 22 19:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976564Jan 22 21:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Your Easily Hacked 'Smart' Doorbell Just Gave Up Your WiFi Credentials https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/11405333312/ding-dong-your-easily-hacked-smart-doorbell-just-gave-up-your-wifi-credentials.shtml glad they put "smart" in scare quotesJan 22 21:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Ding-Dong -- Your Easily Hacked 'Smart' Doorbell Just Gave Up Your WiFi Credentials | TechdirtJan 22 21:50
schestowitz"Ha, ha, all my wifi are open networks."Jan 22 21:50
schestowitzMine tooJan 22 21:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976485Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The cost of ditching Windows XP? More than $12,000 per person http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-cost-of-ditching-windows-xp-more-than-12000-per-person/ #microsoft does a lot of damage. #gnu #linuxJan 22 21:51
schestowitz"Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | The cost of ditching Windows XP? More than $12,000 per person - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/ofx02 ]Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzWhat a crap article and crap publication. They don’t mention or link to any of the studies showing how many millions were saved by not moving to Vista or Vista 7.Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzWe can conclude that sticking with Windows would have cost more because the usual upgrade train would have required replacing all the XP software anyway, but it would have to have happened on all of the city’s desktops.Jan 22 21:51
schestowitz"Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976525Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa pretends to play defensive in 'cyber' http://www.wsj.com/articles/nsa-chief-says-u-s-at-tipping-point-on-cyberweapons-1453404976 http://www.janes.com/article/57395/countries-starting-to-use-non-state-middlemen-for-cyber-ops https://fcw.com/articles/2016/01/21/rogers-nsa-lyngaas.aspx https://defensesystems.com/articles/2016/01/21/rogers-cyber-doesnt-need-to-be-separate-branch.aspxJan 22 21:51
schestowitz"They mean it this time, eh? Microsoft’s new stuff must be really awful for them to promise even greater threats."Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsj.com | NSA Chief Says U.S. at ‘Tipping Point’ on Cyberweapons - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/ofx05 ]Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.janes.com | Countries starting to use non-state middlemen for cyber ops | IHS Jane's 360 [ http://ur1.ca/ofx06 ]Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fcw.com | Rogers: Cyber Command capabilities at 'tipping point' -- FCW [ http://ur1.ca/ofx07 ]Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> defensesystems.com | Rogers: Cyber doesn't need its own military branch -- Defense Systems [ http://ur1.ca/ofx08 ]Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzMicrosoft is a partner... to themJan 22 21:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6973279Jan 22 21:52
schestowitz"Do you know the brand?"Jan 22 21:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft ’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use #Vista10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2016/01/20/escaping-microsoft-malware/Jan 22 21:52
schestowitzNo, didn't askJan 22 21:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use Vista 10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ofnfw ]Jan 22 21:52
schestowitzIt's GE, but not sure which machine/model nameJan 22 21:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976576Jan 22 21:52
schestowitz"Free software on “Microsoft’s Azure cloud” is NSA monitored and US dominated."Jan 22 21:53
schestowitzIndeed, as should be made clearer universallyJan 22 21:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Major Banks Complete ‘Modest’ #Blockchain Test http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2016/01/20/major-banks-complete-modest-blockchain-test/ #linux poweredJan 22 21:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blogs.wsj.com | Major Banks Complete ‘Modest’ Blockchain Test - The CIO Report - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/ofx0a ]Jan 22 21:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6975574Jan 22 21:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: .@LinuxFoundation causes uproar by quietly removing community representation from its board http://www.information-age.com/industry/software/123460821/linux-foundation-causes-uproar-quietly-removing-community-representation-its-board time to demand answersJan 22 21:53
schestowitz"Just a few months after some other subversion by Microsoft, we have this."Jan 22 21:53
schestowitzLF responded with utter BS. I hope people scrutinise them until we gain back sanityJan 22 21:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/690760947888041984Jan 23 07:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@theGuruWithin: #WEthePeople won't stop until .@BernieSanders is #POTUS .@schestowitz #WeAreBernie .@OccupyFreedom #WeRUnstoppableAnotherWorldisPossibleJan 23 07:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/690812112545841153Jan 23 08:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz wishing you a superb happy New Year! (sorry for delay)Jan 23 08:27
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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz>Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz> Here's the latest status report, together with the strike petition isJan 23 10:24
schestowitz> managed by an independent lawyer.Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz>Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz> The picture was taken in the Erhardtstraße in Munich, in front of theJan 23 10:24
schestowitz> EPO seat.Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz>Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz> Regards,Jan 23 10:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/690842767354896384Jan 23 10:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: "Война это мир. массовая слежка это свобода" Узнаете риторику? Так сейчас узаконивают бэкдоры и запрещают шифрование https://t.co/WEGbuyL03SJan 23 10:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #war is peace, #surveillance is freedom? https://t.co/AnTjGp5YPM #california gives us comedian #JimCooperJan 23 10:35
schestowitzII- Ongoing ac ons:Jan 23 10:41
schestowitz- A “Call for strike” (see a ached document) is obviously circula ng in the EPO since a few days:Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzo The pe on addresses the suspension and the “lawfulness” in the EPO;Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzo calls for ONE DAY of STRIKE in March;Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzo In emails it is suggested to distribute amongst colleagues and send the collected and signedJan 23 10:41
schestowitzpe ons either directly to the indicated lawyer or to any Staff representa on of yourJan 23 10:41
schestowitzchoice before next Friday, the 29.01.16Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/690852514816749569Jan 23 11:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Air power does not conquer. Never has and never will. It's just infantry support.Jan 23 11:06
schestowitzhttp://www.theverge.com/2016/1/21/10811232/epa-flint-michigan-contaminated-lead-water-crisisJan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theverge.com | EPA orders Michigan to take 'immediate action' on Flint water crisis | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/og0p8 ]Jan 23 16:36
schestowitz-Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/flint-michigan-lead-water-crisis.htmlJan 23 16:36
schestowitz-Jan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/og0pb ]Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttp://www.cracked.com/blog/5-huge-scandals-happening-right-now-weve-been-ignoring/Jan 23 16:36
schestowitz-Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttp://www.thenation.com/article/invisible-hand-of-the-free-market-man-in-flint/Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzNow /that's/ running government like a business.Jan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.cracked.com | 5 Huge Scandals Happening Right Now (We've Been Ignoring) | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/og0pd ]Jan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thenation.com | Invisible-Hand-of-the-Free-Market Man in Flint | The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/og0pe ]Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/690936526692290560Jan 23 16:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: Pollution respects borders, you muppet! https://t.co/IFWIUihchxJan 23 16:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Haze crisis cost #Indonesia almost 2% of GDP, #WorldBank says https://t.co/WYsqw3Z31F what about neighbouring nations?Jan 23 16:40
schestowitz> xJan 23 17:01
schestowitz> http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/stockholm/misshandlar-och-spottar-mamman-i-ansiktetJan 23 17:01
schestowitz>Jan 23 17:01
schestowitz> xJan 23 17:01
schestowitz> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3410575/Shocking-moment-thief-PUNCHES-mother-face-spits-young-children-stops-stealing-elderly-woman.htmlJan 23 17:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.svt.se | Misshandlar och spottar mamman i ansiktet - Nyheter | SVT.se [ http://ur1.ca/og0rs ]Jan 23 17:01
schestowitz>Jan 23 17:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dailymail.co.uk | Thief PUNCHES mother in the face and spits on her for stepping in | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/og0rt ]Jan 23 17:01
schestowitz> FYI compare the common photon in the two sets of photos.  Who's beingJan 23 17:01
schestowitz> protected?Jan 23 17:01
schestowitzYou tell me...Jan 23 17:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/690941144440664064Jan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sine_injuria: @M5S_CMRoma https://t.co/K1qO8IBAMBJan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Depraved Indifference Toward #Flint https://t.co/CfFR4TNr55 people who murder but are rich won't go to prisonJan 23 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArtKen/status/690946477019901952Jan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ArtKen: This is long term mass murder And no one will left a finger to hold them responsible NO ONE https://t.co/aRSUANA4s0Jan 23 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NewsToYouToday/status/690947967088467968Jan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NewsToYouToday: @schestowitz #RickSnyder holding on for dear life! He's hoping Rs win WH. He wants cabinet post w/eyes on his own POTUS run. #FlintForEverJan 23 17:27
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schestowitz>>> >> http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/stockholm/misshandlar-och-spottar-mamman-i-ansiktetJan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >> xJan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3410575/Shocking-moment-thief-PUNCHES-mother-face-spits-young-children-stops-stealing-elderly-woman.htmlJan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz>>> >> FYI compare the common photon in the two sets of photos.  Who's beingJan 23 17:49
schestowitz>>> >> protected?Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz>> >Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz>> > You tell me...Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz> The attacker in the SVT site's pictures was digitally obscured.  ItJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> would have been a nice, clear, large image of his face several times.  IJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> read in another article that they think they've arrested him.  But oneJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> has got to wonder about the priorities of the "news" mediaJan 23 17:49
schestowitz>Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz> There should be something interesting happening at the end of Feb.  TheJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> police announced that they would gather from all over the region toJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> descend on a particular neighborhood, one where they've mostly beenJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> unable to go.  I'm not sure the point nor why they are announcing it soJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> publicly so far in advance.Jan 23 17:49
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schestowitz>> #Thu Jan 21 21:03:26 PST 2016Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > > It was a tough day bro but here it goes:Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > > pier_yves_leborgn_letterJan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > > Have a nice FridayJan 23 19:27
schestowitz>> >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>> > Thanks, my dad is staying over, so didn't get around to it until now.Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz> If he still with you give him my regards. He must be proud to have a son withJan 23 19:27
schestowitz> balls! :-)Jan 23 19:27
schestowitzheh.Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz> Here it goes bro:Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz> linux-foundation-coupJan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz> I'll get to you later. Have a nice day.Jan 23 19:36
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:36
schestowitz> EduardoJan 23 19:36
schestowitzCheers!Jan 23 19:36
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQeXZrcdADc&feature=youtu.be&aJan 23 21:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Louis van Gaal's Presser | Manchester United 0-1 Southampton - YouTubeJan 23 21:00
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schestowitz>>> >> http://yle.fi/uutiset/paper_5000_higher_learning_jobs_cut_by_government/8601282Jan 17 10:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-yle.fi | Paper: 5,000 higher learning jobs cut by government | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/of8ra ]Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>>> >> While everyone is fighting over the budgets and staffing, the softersJan 17 10:01
schestowitz>>> >> have taken over the curricula and decided on even the teaching methods.Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>> >Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>> > Are they teaching MS at schools, to what degree if so..?Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz> I'm mostly out of the loop and have no contacts in the south, so don'tJan 17 10:01
schestowitz> quote on this.  Via the news and some 2nd and 3rd hand reports, M$ hasJan 17 10:01
schestowitz> given money in exchange for teaching or "researching" various products.Jan 17 10:01
schestowitz>  But that's not what I was intending to refer to.  I mean that theJan 17 10:01
schestowitz> so-called IT staff has been replaced by defacto M$ resellers.  All ITJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> goes through them and no non-M$ activities get support or even allowed.Jan 17 10:02
schestowitz>  As I mentioned some years ago, they went through individual facultyJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> machines and deleted all non-approved software.  That's at theJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> University level.  I'll find out about two more universities sometimeJan 17 10:02
schestowitz> during the year, closer to the autumn, but the prognosis is not good.Jan 17 10:02
schestowitz> M$ killed Nokia but no one is reacting against it, only digging in deeper.Jan 17 10:02
schestowitzAsk Torvalds about it. Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>Jan 17 10:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/and_manus/status/688659855687589888Jan 17 10:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@and_manus: My underlying stress is proportional to the speed at which I consume an iced coffee. https://t.co/e2CScRz3F7Jan 17 10:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: A Few Keystrokes Could Solve the Crime. Would You Press Enter? https://t.co/CJco0C8Onu #prismJan 17 10:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/01micko/status/688673699961020416Jan 17 12:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@01micko: @schestowitz indeed! Q. Did GNU stuff run on Minix? #toolazytolookupJan 17 12:17
schestowitzNo connection between the twoJan 17 12:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6967057Jan 17 12:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Finding the Perfect Linux Laptop https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/01/finding-the-perfect-linux-laptop/ #gnu #linux #freedomJan 17 12:53
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schestowitz"Cloudflare prevents me from seeing this site by showing tor users unsolvable captchas -,-"Jan 17 12:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/688717049712013313Jan 17 13:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "the state has been slow to react, despite admitting that it bungled the problem." https://t.co/qPCXe8eaVX >conscious< manslaughterJan 17 13:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesJan 17 13:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/688719288778149888Jan 17 13:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@theGuruWithin: .@schestowitz we r living in 3rd World #Corruptocracy. Time is short #PeacefulPoliticalRevolution only possibility 4 #WEthePeople survivalJan 17 13:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankThinker/status/688719142464008193Jan 17 13:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrankThinker: @schestowitz @theGuruWithin They also covered up Legionnaire's disease. it is a biological and chemical siege, all for greed.Jan 17 13:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688715722449661952   https://twitter.com/aral/status/688715311638540288Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Well, if you take money from foreign countries to destabilise your own, you ARE a traitor.Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@aral: Philanthropy: Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth https://t.co/32eyMPp70l A great read on philanthrocapitalism. Via @schestowitzJan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commondreams.org | Philanthropy: Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive CommunityJan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DEISecure/status/688714066299207686Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@DEISecure: @schestowitz & let the debt flow through & be written down instead of "extend & pretend" business as usualJan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/688707093071826944Jan 17 13:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Coincidentally, I'm reading this from a coastal island 3m above sea level that's experiencing a bubble fueled housing boom.Jan 17 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688721974810509312Jan 17 14:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Such as Spain's Podemos.Jan 17 14:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/steoreilly/status/688712556454776833Jan 17 14:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@steoreilly: Reminds of when Roy Keane HEAD-BUTTED Peter Schmeichel in drink-fuelled fight: https://t.co/iFrDTGMZgJJan 17 14:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.mirror.co.uk | Roy Keane reveals moment he HEAD-BUTTED Peter Schmeichel in drink-fuelled fight leaving Man United keeper with black eye - Mirror OnlineJan 17 14:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/688727430891044864Jan 17 14:24
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@theGuruWithin: .@BernieSanders reflects War, Peace & #MLK in 1988 #1uMLK #FlintWaterCrisis #FlintWater https://t.co/6m3wZIkE0U https://t.co/bYpxGfVMIBJan 17 14:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/flintvictim/status/688729536184365056Jan 17 14:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@flintvictim: schestowitz: RT theGuruWithin: .BernieSanders reflects War, Peace & #MLK in 1988 #1uMLK #FlintWaterCrisis #FlintW… https://t.co/KUUVQinFA2Jan 17 14:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Few people steal all the capital, then give a fraction back with strings, call themselves "charitable". buy media https://t.co/VqQxgz0xXcJan 17 14:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zaurav/status/688731581368942592Jan 17 14:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zaurav: @schestowitz at this rate I feel it’s gonna be 1 up in liverpools favorJan 17 14:37
schestowitzWould be expected for them to win..Jan 17 14:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zaurav/status/688732169196425216Jan 17 14:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zaurav: @schestowitz haven’t watched epl in a very long time. Sorry to see manu fallen from its mantleJan 17 14:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArneBab/status/688737177962999808Jan 17 15:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ArneBab: RT @schestowitz Open Source Hardware (OSHW), why it matters and what is pseudo OSHW https://olimex.wordprehttps://t.co/O3eHUAM7v4Jan 17 15:04
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schestowitzmanchester united looking terrible again http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2015-2016/epl.match-stats.html/liverpool-vs-man-utdJan 17 15:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.premierleague.com | Liverpool v Man Utd Match Statistics | Barclays Premier League [ http://ur1.ca/of9eh ]Jan 17 15:40
schestowitzthis isn't ferguson's team...Jan 17 15:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/maxmufc7/status/688753870714048513Jan 17 16:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@maxmufc7: Utd should rip up De Gea's 5 year contract and give him a 10 year one with a £100m release clause. At this moment in time he's irreplaceableJan 17 16:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SkySportsStatto/status/688753741755985920Jan 17 16:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SkySportsStatto: Man of the match, David De Gea 4 saves 8th PL clean sheet of 15-16 72nd clean sheet in 201 apps for Man Utd https://t.co/2V0SdUeUIWJan 17 16:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SkySportsStatto: Man of the match, David De Gea 4 saves 8th PL clean sheet of 15-16 72nd clean sheet in 201 apps for Man Utd https://t.co/2V0SdUeUIWJan 17 16:06
schestowitz>> Excellent! Just finished both, hopefully someone who knows the languageJan 17 16:13
schestowitz>> > can double-check to see I didn't manage something up (lot of manual workJan 17 16:14
schestowitz>> > in the conversion of formats).Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz> I always do. I reread de articles once you loaded up. If Iĺl see something IĺlJan 17 16:14
schestowitz> inmediately let you know.Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:14
schestowitz> See you later bro.Jan 17 16:14
schestowitzCheers mateJan 17 16:14
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> """""Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> Once you mentioned maybe this guy will go to Chile to visit Augusto PinochetśJan 17 16:27
schestowitz> grave. I did remember something my great uncle regarding a militar dictator whoJan 17 16:27
schestowitz> expropiate a lot of lands to our family. I will apply it to Pinoccio Battistelly:Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> "I hope when he dies thy will make a coffin in the shape of a (soccer) football.Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>  So we can take it to the cementery by kicking it all the way to it"Jan 17 16:27
schestowitzWhen I first found out the history of Pinochetś I was surprised I hadn't been taught that and the mainstream media overlooks it. If you search the name in techrights you'll find around 100 mentions (daily links mostly).Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> """""Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> Anyway here it goesJan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> pierre-yves-le-borgn-responds-to-epo/Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> My respects to Pierre, I pull off my hat!Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> The only one with guts to stand up against this @*%^!Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> Have a nice SundayJan 17 16:27
schestowitz>Jan 17 16:27
schestowitz> EduardoJan 17 16:27
schestowitzI suppose delegates are receiving a lot of e-mail right now. That would help...Jan 17 16:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/688785482046697473Jan 17 18:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz will speak after him. FSF is too American, does not have patent priorities.Jan 17 18:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/688782747867987968Jan 17 18:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Transparancy as a money making tool: NYPD charging TV network $36,000 for body cam footage @arstechnica @schestowitz https://t.co/LUSI1k0Y3GJan 17 18:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | Police department charging TV news network $36,000 for body cam footage | Ars TechnicaJan 17 18:12
schestowitzMinceR: re Hardon and the trollJan 17 19:50
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1453041870569#c3970149801968847531Jan 17 19:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/ofa2m ]Jan 17 19:50
schestowitz"Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzSure, people get fired.Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzYet, the first reason is.... lacking secrecy on your own case? Sure, that publication reflects badly on the EPO, so it does contravene the ServRegs, but does it reflect badly because of the stuff being published, or because of the content? And who is responsible for the conten?Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzThe alleged harrasment? The Disciplinary Committee pointed out that only one of seven witnesses that were "interviewed" (with extremely suggestive questions) was able to confirm the case....Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzI have sincere issues with how the case was handled.Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzAlso, implementing a harsher punishment than proposed by the DC?Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzFurthermore: further reforms were put on the tables of the consultative organs, where the staff representation was lacking representatives. I'll bet that BB will use the votes, which were now 10 pro and 9 no as a proof that the reforms are wanted by the majority of staff, as those will be the first ones where he did not have to break the tie as chairperson in the obligatory consulting...Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzAnyway, think what you want, you're able to make your own opinion, and it is your right to point out that most employees are worse off. But those do have access to court decissions in a reasonable time, we do not. Thus we have no means against an unjustified firing.Jan 17 19:50
schestowitz-one of those priviledged ExaminersJan 17 19:50
schestowitz"Jan 17 19:50
schestowitzI think there's some trollingJan 17 19:50
schestowitzher so-called 'crime' was allegedly being rude to some employeeJan 17 19:50
schestowitzand for this they TAKE AWAY HER PENSION, plus the firingJan 17 19:50
schestowitzwhat a mess!Jan 17 19:50
oiaohmschestowitz: EPO quality of internal investigating does not give promise of quality patent inspection.Jan 17 19:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/688813630096297984Jan 17 20:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz That's why I observe the evil in the world- so you good people don't have to.Jan 17 20:06
schestowitztrying to imagine it in my head is strong enough a thing to make me fight against it (beheadings in SA)Jan 17 20:07
schestowitzoiaohm: not relatedJan 17 20:07
schestowitzthere's no real invetisgation thereJan 17 20:07
schestowitzit's a euphemism for union busting.Jan 17 20:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/coryxoxo/status/688844752234479616Jan 17 22:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@coryxoxo: @schestowitz False dichotomyJan 17 22:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688864778769551361Jan 17 23:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Me neither, and I suspect the is actually no one.Jan 17 23:28
schestowitzExcept maybe in the communications department, which the public can see (must pretend we're diverse, right?)Jan 17 23:28
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jorjahelloJan 18 02:22
jorjaI have an LG L34C phone that is giving Unfortunately, the process com.android.systemui has stopped. Does anyone know of a way to get this to stop? The phone company claims they cannot help me with the issue and it is too old for them to replace it. Also cannot afford a new phone. proof of error https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_yAR-460CIJan 18 02:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Proof of error - YouTubeJan 18 02:22
oiaohmjorja: http://lg-firmware-rom.com/ you can still get LG firmware images for that phone.   Most cases when phones are doing stupid stuff like that its possible to get them into adb mode and copy the data off of them before reimaging them.Jan 18 02:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lg-firmware-rom.com | Stock ROM / Firmware | For LG Phones & TabletsJan 18 02:45
oiaohmjorja: opps this is not support channel.Jan 18 02:46
jorjathere is noneJan 18 03:03
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schestowitz"Jan 18 07:32
schestowitzThought I'd let you know LinuxFest Northwest 2016Jan 18 07:32
schestowitzis now accepting applications forJan 18 07:32
schestowitzSponsor/Exhibitors and Presenters (Call for Papers).Jan 18 07:32
schestowitz-Note call for Presenters closes Feb 10th.Jan 18 07:32
schestowitz"Jan 18 07:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KareCarado/status/688932494289154048Jan 18 07:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@KareCarado: @schestowitz but Blair would have to stand again as an MP or be given a peerage to make that happen...Jan 18 07:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688981359793168385Jan 18 07:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz The shame of not following the court's decision? Er...Jan 18 07:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688981640165634048  https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688983427169779712 https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/688984258212446208Jan 18 07:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Telling unemployed white working-class people they benefit from "white privilege" is a surefire way to alienate them.Jan 18 07:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @nationnews Yeah. And Republics tend to ban anti-Republican movements.Jan 18 07:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @thinkprogress ¿How many Britons have Trump supporters killed?Jan 18 07:39
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r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> I've donated a small amount to the SFC today. It's not much but it'sJan 18 10:28
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> what I have available.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >>Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> They're unique in that they are active in supporting and defending FreeJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> Software licensing, in particular the GPL.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >>Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> https://sfconservancy.org/news/2015/dec/24/private-internet-access-match/Jan 18 10:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sfconservancy.org | Conservancy announces funding match by Private Internet Access - Software Freedom Conservancy [ http://ur1.ca/ofa54 ]Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >>Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> They have a matching programme in effect through the end of the month,Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>>>> >>>> >> so current donations count double until then.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> > If ever we have financial problems in tuxmachines and techrights (wifeJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> > and I work for the same employer, so it's volatile) I hope that readersJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>>>> >>> > who benefit from both would be willing to jump to our rescue...Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>> >> I hope so.  Both TM and TR have large reader populations.  TM has grownJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>>> >> a lot since your wife and you took it over.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > Yes, we needed to add varnish, 16 GB of RAM to the back end, and otherJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > things to cope with the growing load, which is still increasing (IJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > haven't blogged about it there for a while, lack of time, may look likeJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > showfoff)Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > Susan told me/expressed to me a certain occasional regret that she hadJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > sold the site, but she trusts it in our hands. Rianne works really hardJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > to keep it up to date and make it FASTER  (to pick emerging news) thanJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > any other news site. Now sure everyone really appreciated it. And sheJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > isn't doing it for money, she's like me...Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> >Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > I didn't even have to 'incite' her against Microsoft to make her hateJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > Microsoft. She learned that on her own. She really hates Apple too,Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz>> > maybe more than I do...Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> I've more or less written off Wikipedia since the trouble they gave ODF,Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> but I wonder if it would be possible to update the entry on M$ EEEJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> tactics.  Missing from the article are Kerberos, OpenSSH and R, to nameJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> three.  It would need a group though to overcome the astroturfers andJan 18 10:29
r_schestowitz> marketeers that are camped on any M$ page there.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitzWhen people look up EEE I don't know how many end up reading Wikipedia.Jan 18 10:29
r_schestowitzSo better yet, writing something up and send it for me to publish in techrights.Jan 18 10:29
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schestowitz> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35338413Jan 18 12:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.bbc.co.uk | Muslim women's segregation in UK communities must end - Cameron - BBC NewsJan 18 12:03
schestowitz>Jan 18 12:03
schestowitz> -Jan 18 12:03
schestowitz>Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12104556/David-Cameron-More-Muslim-women-should-learn-English-to-help-tackle-extremism.htmlJan 18 12:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.telegraph.co.uk | David Cameron: More Muslim women should 'learn English' to help tackle extremism - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/ofck8 ]Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz>Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> Allowing them to form ghettos / colonies further inhibits integration,Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> in addition to the other inhibiting factors.Jan 18 12:04
schestowitz> Yes. There was an error.Jan 18 14:51
schestowitz> The attached document is the original Croatian version of the minutes ofJan 18 14:51
schestowitz> the court hearing.Jan 18 14:51
schestowitz> By mistake, the original mail had two different versions of the EnglishJan 18 14:51
schestowitz> translation.Jan 18 14:51
schestowitzThank you, Sir. You've done more than anyone (IMHO) for SUEPO reps.Jan 18 14:52
schestowitzI will publish tomorrow in preparation for the protests.Jan 18 14:52
schestowitz> I'm looking for sources right now and found that not only is this linkJan 18 14:54
schestowitz> missing from archive.org, but it is very heavily redacted:Jan 18 14:54
schestowitz>Jan 18 14:54
schestowitz> http://www.justice.gov/atr/us-v-microsoft-proposed-findings-factJan 18 14:54
schestowitz>Jan 18 14:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.justice.gov | U.S. V. Microsoft: Proposed Findings Of Fact | ATR | Department of Justice [ http://ur1.ca/ofd0j ]Jan 18 14:54
schestowitz> I'm not sure when the editing took place but if I remember correctly itJan 18 14:54
schestowitz> used to be whole and uncut online.  Search for the  string "Redacted"Jan 18 14:54
schestowitzMaybe a subject for a coming article?Jan 18 14:54
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schestowitz"Jan 19 00:17
schestowitz29. Jutta Krellmann, Member of Parliament (DIE LINKE.)Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzTo what extent can the Federal German Government confirm the “deterioratingJan 19 00:17
schestowitzworking conditions” (www.heise.de/ix/meldung/Europaeisches-Patentamt-droht-Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzGewerkschaftsfuehrung-2814245.html) at the European Patent Office under theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzmanagement of President Benoît Battistelli, in respect of the employees and theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzunion SUEPO, and what possibilities does the Federal Government see for defusingJan 19 00:17
schestowitzthe situation and possibly bringing the conflict to an end?Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzReply by Parliamentary Secretary of State Christian Lange of 8 October 2015Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzThe European Patent Office is an organ of the European Patent Organization (EPO).Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzThe latter is an international organization which was established in 1973, which nowJan 19 00:17
schestowitzcomprises 38 contracting states. As is usual with international organizations, the EPOJan 19 00:17
schestowitzhas acquired an independent legal framework. This consists in particular of theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzEuropean Patent Convention and other agreements under international law. For theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzpersons who are engaged there, predominantly international public officials, there isJan 19 00:17
schestowitzalso an independent public officials statute, as well as other internal regulationsJan 19 00:17
schestowitzwhich serve to implement and formulate this statute.Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzA good working atmosphere at the European Patent Office is a matter of very greatJan 19 00:17
schestowitzimportance to the Federal German Government.Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzIn order to improve the situation, in particular the atmosphere for discussions at theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzEPO, the Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection has urged theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzAdministrative Council at the EPO to stimulate resumption of the social dialogue. TheJan 19 00:17
schestowitzintention is that this should take the form of a three-way interaction between theJan 19 00:17
schestowitzPresident, the Administrative Council, and the trade unions at the EPO, and serve toJan 19 00:17
schestowitzdetermine, in the interests of the staff, where it will be possible for the parties to comeJan 19 00:17
schestowitzto terms on the present dispute issues.Jan 19 00:17
schestowitzThe Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection is actively seeking toJan 19 00:18
schestowitzimprove the situation. In the final analysis, however, it will be down to the partiesJan 19 00:18
schestowitzinvolved at EPO themselves to take advantage of the possibilities being offered toJan 19 00:18
schestowitzhold talks, and thereby open up room for manoeuvre. In this context, an individualJan 19 00:18
schestowitzcontracting state has no rights of instruction or supervision. Germany too, itsJan 19 00:18
schestowitzconcerns notwithstanding, must pursue the matter by way of the administrativeJan 19 00:18
schestowitzbodies of the EPO, and is only one of 38 contracting states.Jan 19 00:18
schestowitz'Jan 19 00:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wood5y/status/689426334083260416Jan 19 12:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wood5y: UK media holding the British state to account? #myarse https://t.co/XlzORmhC9iJan 19 12:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Regarding David Miranda detention, intl'/independent media says law broken, #uk corporate media says "lawful". Says a lot about our 'press'.Jan 19 12:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/689425445687717888Jan 19 12:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz @BillGates Thanks for clarification. #peaceJan 19 12:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689428674437771265Jan 19 12:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @glynmoody Yes, and no. Also have to remember the anonym-ised users are using tor. https://t.co/4iTQS4pypMJan 19 12:51
schestowitzIRC loggingJan 19 12:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArneBab/status/689429694333095936Jan 19 12:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ArneBab: @schestowitz @METAKNlGHT @glynmoody at least for public channels, anyone can log by simply joining them. Do you mean private messages?Jan 19 12:53
schestowitzEverything, the back end/server logsJan 19 12:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689428674437771265Jan 19 12:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chrisgmarcon/status/689431584068382720Jan 19 13:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@chrisgmarcon: @schestowitz @aral Complacency in the UK is borderline endemic; it'll take a bloody miracle to get them off their assesJan 19 13:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689431547020054528Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @ArneBab @glynmoody https://t.co/a6WASENBF3Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689431431655731200Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @ArneBab @glynmoody Legally they have to keep them for 5 years. Link to them clarifying adherence to this is :D broken.Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689430797070172160   https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689430302968573954Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Lord Janner was the least of it @schestowitz https://t.co/SyyxEAoCkAJan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.bbc.com | Lord Janner 'abused 12 at children's homes' - BBC NewsJan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: One of the problems @schestowitz was that some of the MI5 and MI6 people and Whitehall civil servants were paedophiles. With guns. Nasty.Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689429855931236352Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@METAKNlGHT: .@schestowitz @glynmoody They are saying they can but archive will be limited. Fairly sure you'll find that Scandinavian Gov's have done so.Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/689429748720631808   https://twitter.com/METAKNlGHT/status/689428674437771265Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz Aus govt...hey guys..have access to warrantless data on EVERY CITIZEN..with our pleasure..just a tiny PAYBACKJan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArneBab/status/689429694333095936Jan 19 13:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689429410961690625Jan 19 13:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: They decided that someone else should work with him @schestowitzJan 19 13:22
oiaohmschestowitz: Australian law you are asked for password/encryption key you have to hand it over.Jan 19 13:23
schestowitzunder which circumstances?Jan 19 13:25
schestowitzYou have to have border crossing or something like a warrant, no?Jan 19 13:25
oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law#Australia  depends if they use the Cybercrime Act 2001 No. 161, Items 12 and 28 law or . Crimes Act 1914, 3LA(5)Jan 19 13:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Key disclosure law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJan 19 13:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/davidmirandario/status/689407688871047168Jan 19 13:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@davidmirandario: Thrilled with the court ruling! My purpose was to show UK's terrorism law violates press freedoms. And journalism isn't "terrorism." We won!Jan 19 13:32
oiaohmschestowitz: 1914, 3LA(5) it requires no warrant just police officer giving you an order and you disobeying.Jan 19 13:33
oiaohmYes 2 years in prison for disobeying  lawful order.Jan 19 13:33
oiaohmschestowitz: also the 2001 is nasty because if you have files you have no way to decode because you don't have the key any more they can put in jail for 6 months.Jan 19 13:35
oiaohmSo depending on the case between 6 months to 2 years in jail.Jan 19 13:36
oiaohmschestowitz: legal hazard is those segagate harddrives with delete encrption key to block access to data in Australia.Jan 19 13:40
schestowitzwowJan 19 13:48
schestowitzI think Canada is similarJan 19 13:48
schestowitz!google canada airport decryptJan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[1] - Smartphone & Laptop Searches: Know Your Rights - MakeUseOf | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/smartphone-laptop-searches-know-rights/Jan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[2] - Key disclosure law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_lawJan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[3] - Aviation Weather Services Guide - Nav Canada | http://www.navcanada.ca/EN/media/Publications/AWS-Guide-EN.pdfJan 19 13:48
TechBytesBot[4] - Canadian Cops Can Decrypt PGP BlackBerrys Too | Motherboard | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/canadian-cops-can-decrypt-pgp-blackberrys-tooJan 19 13:48
schestowitznot sure if has been tested in the UKJan 19 13:48
schestowitzas in refusal to decrypt leading to prison or trialJan 19 13:49
oiaohmschestowitz: there is worse http://hrlc.org.au/files/DGZNHGCKVZ/Factsheet%20-%20Counter-Terrorism.pdfJan 19 14:09
oiaohmThe law in Australia allows for a person to be held without charge in 7 day segments forever.Jan 19 14:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/troubletroyous/status/689449208579887104Jan 19 14:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@troubletroyous: @schestowitz @katalin_pota @the_intercept national security means lies, they are protecting their lies. The seals didn't do it, #diabetesJan 19 14:09
schestowitzoiaohm: but Australia hardly has terrorismJan 19 14:10
schestowitzI can only think of two casualties (last year)Jan 19 14:10
schestowitzsharks are a far more potent threatJan 19 14:10
oiaohmLast 12 months 50 arrests for attempts.Jan 19 14:11
oiaohmYes casualties are low but the interception rate is also scarily high.Jan 19 14:11
schestowitz> Attached I send you a translation of the heise article. I'm a non-nativeJan 19 14:25
schestowitz> English speaker, so please feel free to correct the translation whereverJan 19 14:25
schestowitz> the English is not correct.Jan 19 14:25
schestowitz>Jan 19 14:25
schestowitz> P.S.: I am aware that the EPO might intercept this mail, but even if itJan 19 14:25
schestowitz> would, that's ok (I know what I'm doing)Jan 19 14:25
schestowitzThank you. I don't think EPO intercept such E-mails, but it's safer to assume the worse and suppose they do.Jan 19 14:25
schestowitzThe only case where I know they intercepted mail involved GMail (two cases). Remember that EPO and Google are partners (on translation and patent search).Jan 19 14:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6971293Jan 19 14:45
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What #facebook deems "racism" is very broad, politically-motivated. See for instance techrights.org/2010/10/29/power-over-communities-misused/ & http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/FacebookJan 19 14:45
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schestowitz> Hi,Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz>Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> I'm now mostly recovered.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitzWelcome back, Sir! :-)Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> There's a couple more messages to come. You will find below the text ofJan 19 17:21
schestowitz> the EPO internal communiqué.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitzVery timely!Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> In the Hardon dismissal letter there is a clear allusion to the CorcoranJan 19 17:21
schestowitz> ["Mr. C."] business, and an admission that spyware is installed on PCs.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> But I think you saw that too.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitzYes, I saw that letter and published it.Jan 19 17:21
schestowitz> The attached document is the original Croatian version of the minutes ofJan 19 19:09
schestowitz> the court hearing.Jan 19 19:09
schestowitz> By mistake, the original mail had two different versions of the EnglishJan 19 19:09
schestowitz> translation.Jan 19 19:09
schestowitz> Yes. There was an error.Jan 19 19:09
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schestowitz> https://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/09/01/changing--dna.aspxJan 19 21:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-redmondmag.com | How Open Source Is Shaping Microsoft's Future -- Redmondmag.com [ http://ur1.ca/ofiff ]Jan 19 21:15
schestowitzYes, I wonder how much 1105 media (MS propaganda network) paid him for this piece. $1000?Jan 19 21:15
schestowitz> old:Jan 19 21:15
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schestowitz>  https://books.google.com/books?id=ifuAAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA112&lpg=PA111&ots=bfHNXC5fg9&focus=viewportJan 19 21:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-books.google.com | Silent Theft: The Private Plunder of Our Common Wealth - David Bollier - Google Books [ http://ur1.ca/ofifg ]Jan 19 21:15
schestowitzCheersJan 19 21:15
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schestowitz> Attached I send you the translation of another newspaper article, thisJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> one in an encrypted fileJan 20 00:28
schestowitzI think you forgot the attachment ;-)Jan 20 00:28
schestowitz  Jan 20 00:28
schestowitz> P.S.: Did I understand you correctly that google might have provided theJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> access for the office? I would rather assume that the EPO gained accessJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> to the mails from within the EPO network, for example by usingJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> keyloggers or screenshots, than that google provided them direct accessJan 20 00:28
schestowitz> to the gmail accountsJan 20 00:28
schestowitzThat's an unknown actually. All I know, based on the J'Accuse, is that comms between the judge and Els and between Els and Florian (both case Gmail) got read, one way or the other. I'm not mentioned in any way, so I suppose they're still struggling a bit, not identifying my sources...Jan 20 00:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689604516090515457Jan 20 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @schestowitz For example, all the browsers like Firefox and Chrome have telemetry.Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzYes, and that's not good eitherJan 20 00:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689604641227538432Jan 20 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf So then absolutely not a single smartphone in the world is secure?Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzCorrect, unless you can name one...Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689604827177873408Jan 20 00:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Exactly how would the baseband processor in an iPhone “root” the AP? Please be specific.Jan 20 00:29
schestowitzThis is old news. The towers can seize control of the baseband OS (proprietary), which in turn takes over Android/iOS/otherJan 20 00:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689605188273905664Jan 20 00:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf Even then, I'm not exactly sure how an article from January 2011 is relevant today…Jan 20 00:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689605618378809345Jan 20 00:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @schestowitz Why?Jan 20 00:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689605857785475072Jan 20 00:31
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna Could you please explain this baseband attack you’re contemplating? What exactly is the evil baseband doing?Jan 20 00:31
schestowitzhttp://www.extremetech.com/computing/170874-the-secret-second-operating-system-that-could-make-every-mobile-phone-insecureJan 20 00:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.extremetech.com | The secret second operating system that could make every mobile phone insecure | ExtremeTechJan 20 00:32
schestowitz"As you can probably guess, a large, closed-source codebase that implements old standards is a really bad idea. Holwerda says that REX OS automatically executes any commands that it receives over-the-air from the carrier’s base station — and yes, in case you were wondering, there are commands that perform a variety of heinous acts, such as turning on auto-answer, executing arbitrary code, or simply bricking your device. It goes withoutJan 20 00:33
schestowitzsaying that, in theory, you could set up your own base station (say, with software-defined radio) and cause a lot of havoc. When you hear that an iPhone has been jailbroken due to a baseband exploit, it means that hackers have found a bug in the baseband OS or processor that gives them elevated access to the rest of the device."Jan 20 00:33
schestowitzNobody knows what REX OS is doing (it's a secret), but it's old, insecure, and been reverse-engineeredJan 20 00:34
schestowitz#openmoko was the only phone I know of with potential to overcome this problemJan 20 00:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689606237864898560  https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689606410745720832Jan 20 00:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Yes, you said that already. I’m asking: how exactly does the baseband “take over” the AP running iOS?Jan 20 00:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Stipulate I have full control over your baseband. What is my next move, to take over your iOS kernel on the AP?Jan 20 00:35
schestowitzMITM with towerJan 20 00:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689606442710499328Jan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf and the last example of that actually working with iOS was from January 2011, 5 years ago. A lot has changed since then.Jan 20 00:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689606470174814208Jan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @schestowitz Remember that both browsers are open source, which is why I mention them as examples.Jan 20 00:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/689606925399539713Jan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: No, not for "terrorists". For joy of stupid slaves, which broke own rights just to have "anti-terrorism" govts.. https://t.co/eYNgpIr5gOJan 20 00:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Next time you take off your belt (or pants) at the airport remember you do it for the terrorists. Just to give them some joy of triumph.Jan 20 00:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689606969838084096   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607170682322945   https://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689607207336284160Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna You’re still not answering the question. It’s totally insecure. Stipulated. Now: how do I use it to attack the AP?Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna The AP is a SEPARATE ARM PROCESSOR. iOS does not run on the baseband.Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf You avoided the question. How does a vulnerability/backdoor in REX OS translate into a backdoor into iOS?Jan 20 00:37
schestowitzTransmission intercepts, which grant remote access to iOS processesJan 20 00:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607603412860928Jan 20 00:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz The tower can only take over the baseband CPU. That’s not the APU. How does the tower take over the APU, where Signal runs?Jan 20 00:37
schestowitzAcquire credentials etc. via packet transmission, for instanceJan 20 00:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607787744092160Jan 20 00:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna How does a “transmission intercept” give one processor access to another’s memory?Jan 20 00:38
schestowitzYou acquire information to remotely access the other OS on another processorJan 20 00:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/drspringfield/status/689607872766963712Jan 20 00:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@drspringfield: @tqbf @schestowitz https://t.co/S1tk3y9t04Jan 20 00:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@drspringfield: @tqbf @schestowitz https://t.co/S1tk3y9t04Jan 20 00:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689607994808492032Jan 20 00:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz The whole point of Signal is that it assumes the tower is untrusted. How is the Tower getting Signal’s credentials?Jan 20 00:40
schestowitzWhen iOS is compromised you can't even know for sure if the Signal binary you get is authenticJan 20 00:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608255664852993Jan 20 00:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna If I take over your ethernet hub on your home network, can I take over your laptop’s Linux kernel?Jan 20 00:40
schestowitzYes, if you can intercept passwords, which is sometimes the case. Then SSH access...Jan 20 00:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608390377504769   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608475689639936   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608504835837952Jan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz @rosyna Obviously: no. So: why do you believe that same attack works on a phone? The baseband has same role as ethernet hub.Jan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz Don’t change the subject. You’re CONVINCED the baseband gives “towers” access to iOS processes. Explain how.Jan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz (I can spoiler this for you if you want).Jan 20 00:41
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/25C3_presentation_%22Hacking_the_iPhone%22   I like claims that tower can only take over baseband CPUJan 20 00:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/25C3_presentation_%22Hacking_the_iPhone%22 )Jan 20 00:41
schestowitzYou're being very strident now, it's a waste of time with youJan 20 00:41
oiaohmschestowitz: There is a DMA interlink between application processor and baseband processor in iphones.Jan 20 00:42
schestowitzright...Jan 20 00:42
schestowitzbut anyway, I think I agrue with there with an apple fanboiJan 20 00:42
schestowitzit's a waste of timeJan 20 00:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689608865919303680Jan 20 00:42
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz It’s a waste of time because you literally have no idea what you’re talking about.Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689608879110402048Jan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf iOS and the baseband OS don't share memory. They're not even in the same PoP.Jan 20 00:43
oiaohmschestowitz: so breach of baseband processor can allow application processor memory to be altered.   Now question is how secure is the DMA in iphone.Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689609117963448320Jan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: Fatal iOS security flaw: tower can sniff your SSH passwords, use them to log into your phone. https://t.co/ZBBJXDl8Z5Jan 20 00:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @tqbf @rosyna Yes, if you can intercept passwords, which is sometimes the case. Then SSH access...Jan 20 00:43
schestowitzNow he's jjust trollingJan 20 00:43
schestowitzmisquoting meJan 20 00:43
oiaohmschestowitz: so baseband broken is maybe application processor broken.Jan 20 00:44
schestowitzok, fair point...Jan 20 00:44
schestowitzand since it's proprietary, we don't knowJan 20 00:44
oiaohmThe claim only can take over baseband processor is totally not checking if the DMA between the processors is safe.Jan 20 00:45
schestowitzYou and mister teletubby on your side are clearly just trolling me now, by also misquoting me to ridicule meJan 20 00:45
schestowitz(me to him)Jan 20 00:45
oiaohmSomeone like the NSA would have the resources to check for DMA faults.Jan 20 00:45
oiaohmschestowitz: remember the older firewire hack when the firewire processor could read all the host computers memory because DMA was not secured.Jan 20 00:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689609811600605184Jan 20 00:46
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf (REX OS-based products are no longer produced. The only new products that use them since 2012 are low-end cell phones)Jan 20 00:46
oiaohmSo there are real world examples of sub processes breaching complete system.Jan 20 00:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689609930526056448Jan 20 00:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @schestowitz no there is not.Jan 20 00:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689609995600539648Jan 20 00:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @rosyna @schestowitz @tqbf REX is not the only baseband OS.Jan 20 00:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689609082618019841Jan 20 00:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @tqbf How is it going to intercept encrypted passwords? That's the point of Signal!Jan 20 00:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/689606925399539713Jan 20 00:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: No, not for "terrorists". For joy of stupid slaves, which broke own rights just to have "anti-terrorism" govts.. https://t.co/eYNgpIr5gOJan 20 00:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Next time you take off your belt (or pants) at the airport remember you do it for the terrorists. Just to give them some joy of triumph.Jan 20 00:48
oiaohmThe security difference between baseband running in arm processors trusted zone compare to running in a independent processor connected by DMA is bugger all.   Both depend on memory maps set right to prevent invalid tampering both ways.Jan 20 00:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689610254712090624Jan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbf Indeed, but that's the one he took issue with.Jan 20 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689610504029900800Jan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @rosyna @schestowitz @tqbf I don't believe any other baseband OS tends to be more secure though.Jan 20 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/cigardubey/status/689610673043705856Jan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@cigardubey: Wut https://t.co/qSnRigU5gkJan 20 00:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: .@tqbf There is a DMA interlink between application processor and baseband processor in iphones.Jan 20 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ustayready/status/689610815855525888Jan 20 00:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ustayready: @tqbf @schestowitz the secure enclave in the co processor establishes the PPP link for transmission of the gid for user keybag via winsockJan 20 00:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689611006025170944Jan 20 00:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbf But even assuming an incredibly insecure modem, how does it get access to anything iOS attempts to protect?Jan 20 00:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689611282324979712Jan 20 00:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbf That's where his arguments are failing. The modem is a physically separate device.Jan 20 00:52
schestowitz> ... forgot the attachment, here it isJan 20 00:53
schestowitzThanks.Jan 20 00:53
schestowitzI put it in my "don't publish" (yet) file...Jan 20 00:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/esesci/status/689612025316532224   https://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/689612083768401920   https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689612289377452033Jan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@esesci: @schestowitz @tqbf that suddenly made person of interest 100x more realistic.Jan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yuhong2: @tqbf @schestowitz Just found https://t.co/0XQ5qvomyj on baseband and DMAJan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.ycombinator.com | This is all a bit over the top. Yes, the baseband may be compromisable, that doe... | Hacker NewsJan 20 00:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @yuhong2 @schestowitz it's all chip-chip USB now apparently.Jan 20 00:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/myhndl/status/689612707528515584Jan 20 00:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@myhndl: This entire conversation is hilarious https://t.co/tXgZMBNTeaJan 20 00:58
oiaohmRogue USB device hacking OS because memory maps are wrong somewhere is not new either.Jan 20 01:01
schestowitzoiaohm: right...Jan 20 01:01
oiaohmBreached baseband means DMA security from application processor need to be audited.Jan 20 01:01
schestowitzanyway I got some new followersJan 20 01:01
schestowitzsecurity people, even from GoogleJan 20 01:01
oiaohmTo make sure there is no exploit up.Jan 20 01:02
schestowitzsome of those trolling me are from Microsoft ;-)Jan 20 01:02
schestowitzSo I must be doing something right there..Jan 20 01:02
oiaohmOr course attack into baseband from application processor could also be possible of the baseband DMA security settings are wrong.Jan 20 01:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_supernothing/status/689613676047835136Jan 20 01:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@_supernothing: Super pumped for this generic OTA baseband->AP root. https://t.co/eH9HMDx4L5Jan 20 01:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: .@tqbf This is old news. The towers can seize control of the baseband OS (proprietary), which in turn takes over Android/iOS/otherJan 20 01:02
oiaohmSome of these things closed black boxes not validated is massively stupid.Jan 20 01:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6972432Jan 20 01:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Calls for boycotting Samsung https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/689529450577301504 I called for it 9 years ago http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SamsungJan 20 01:04
schestowitz"rooting a tv? …hmmm…"Jan 20 01:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@internetofshit: Smart TVs that add advertising to the UI are unacceptable. A reason to boycott Samsung. https://t.co/LXxXtcAuDOJan 20 01:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Samsung - TechrightsJan 20 01:04
schestowitzRisky....Jan 20 01:04
oiaohmQuestion is what does the advertising companies find out.   Do they find out what tv programs you like watching.Jan 20 01:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689614437016174592Jan 20 01:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @tqbf Signal still relies on phone numbers, I fail to see how that excludes them from CALEA. The rest though? rofl @schestowitzJan 20 01:05
schestowitzoiaohm: they have cams mounted on some set-top boxesJan 20 01:06
schestowitzso they can watch who's watchingJan 20 01:06
schestowitzwho'se presentJan 20 01:06
schestowitzwhat you're doingJan 20 01:06
schestowitzand send ads based on thatJan 20 01:06
schestowitzbasically acting as infromants on viewersJan 20 01:06
schestowitz!google lg tv spying on viewerJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[1] - Samsung Television Spies on Viewers - Schneier on Security | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/02/samsung_televis.htmlJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[2] - Some Samsung, LG, and Vizio TV's now spy on you - Story | http://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/some-samsung-lg-and-vizio-tvs-now-spy-on-youJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[3] - Your Smart TV Could Be Spying on You | Clark Howard | http://www.clarkhoward.com/your-smart-tv-spying-youJan 20 01:06
TechBytesBot[4] - Not in front of the telly: Warning over 'listening' TV - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31296188Jan 20 01:06
schestowitzOh, Samsung tooJan 20 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689614976781148161Jan 20 01:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I think you fail to understand how SSH works which is why @tqbf is mocking you. @rosynaJan 20 01:07
schestowitzI've used SSH for almost two decades, that troll just put fake words in my mouthJan 20 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615108608110592Jan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz By the same token, baseband attacks are real, if rarely discussed @tqbf probably read https://t.co/1KUJKWAPzp already @rosynaJan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.usenix.org | Baseband Attacks: Remote Exploitation of Memory Corruptions in Cellular Protocol Stacks | USENIXJan 20 01:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615324287610881Jan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna past research has shown that baseband compromises can lead to much more actually @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615429199790080Jan 20 01:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna but I do not see any claims here that there are *new* baseband attacks, though they could be private? @yuhong2 @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:08
oiaohmYep history of baseband attacks say they should be presumed extremely bad until proven otherwise.Jan 20 01:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689615640659759104   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689615649425850368Jan 20 01:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf That's a presentation discussing the same issues from the Jan 2011 article.Jan 20 01:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I think getting into an argument with @tqbf is one of those "never get involved in a land war in Asia" pitfalls. ;) @rosynaJan 20 01:10
schestowitzThanks for the warningJan 20 01:10
schestowitzoiaohm: like with most proprietary softwareJan 20 01:11
schestowitzesp. on phonesJan 20 01:11
schestowitznow that government wants to snoop on everything and demands back doors in phones etc.Jan 20 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689615981480546305Jan 20 01:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf The iPhone compromise attacks a key vulnerability in the A4 and earlier that was fixed in the A5 and later.Jan 20 01:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689616247684608000Jan 20 01:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf The vulnerability made it trivial to run arbitrary code. So I consider that an invalid attack on the A5+.Jan 20 01:12
schestowitzmaybe we just don't know (yet) of similar holes in A5+Jan 20 01:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689616386990026753Jan 20 01:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna Yep, old research! I don't know of anyone currently owned up to new baseband exploits, though they could exist. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689616521094569984Jan 20 01:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna owning* Albeit, if I had such things, I probably wouldn't discuss them openly in today's climate. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:13
schestowitzcould make a killing selling them to some intel' agency on either side of the cold war, it's universal accessJan 20 01:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689616782391271424Jan 20 01:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf Since the flaw used was fixed (it was a really stupid flaw), a new theoretical mechanism must be presented.Jan 20 01:14
schestowitz https://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689616796861657088   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689616882966523905Jan 20 01:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @tqbf @schestowitz I think this fellow has severely misinterpreted some material but @msolnik identified a scenario that creates problemsJan 20 01:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna given past precedent @schestowitz stipulations aren't outlandish, but would need to be precipitated by new baseband vulns. @tqbfJan 20 01:15
schestowitzA senior engineer who came to my house explained to me how the Home Hub is backdoors upon each rebootJan 20 01:15
schestowitzA senior engineer who came to my house explained to me how the Home Hub is backdoored upon each rebootJan 20 01:15
schestowitz*BT engineerJan 20 01:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689617035496546304   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617172579004417Jan 20 01:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf Why? Jailbreakers would absolutely *love* such an unfixable bug.Jan 20 01:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna Agreed. I believe such things can (& probably do exist) but without examples, remain like monsters under the bed. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689617226769440769Jan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @tqbf @schestowitz @msolnik this fellow being @schestowitz, not solnik.Jan 20 01:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617372508848128Jan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna I have stronger affinity to Apple as a vendor than jailbreakers at the moment. ;) @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:17
schestowitzApple's Jobs did start as somewhat of a jailbreakerJan 20 01:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617554839441409   https://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617648334671872Jan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz that may be true, but probably not the sort of thing that would be publicized if found given such contexts. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz which relegates it into the "you're not paranoid, but you can't do anything about that right now" land. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:17
schestowitzI wish OpenMoko had succeededJan 20 01:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689617876177682433Jan 20 01:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz sure, and he ended as he currently is: dead. He's not being resurrected, that would've happened already I think? @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689618074043985920Jan 20 01:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz I'm confused.Jan 20 01:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618102540075008Jan 20 01:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz egads logical fallacy "Improper Transposition" foul! Backdoor BT gear is not a Baseband used by Apple. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:20
schestowitzThe analogy came from tbbfJan 20 01:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618301375291392Jan 20 01:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I am much more interested in encrypted tech which sheds vestiges of telco entirely, e.g. PSYC2, SILC, etc. @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689618530094870528Jan 20 01:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @rhymebyter @tqbf I'm not sure how the BT Home Hub relates to iOS or Signal,although I'd consider ISP supplied routers insecureJan 20 01:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618676266303488Jan 20 01:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @schestowitz I am unsure, this may be where twitter's failings become resplendent, but repeating past fallacies isn't helpful @rosyna @tqbfJan 20 01:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689618919049396224   https://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689618940280995840Jan 20 01:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna yeah, DOCSIS is more or less a veritable how-to on making a user-hostile corporate friendly backdoor. ;_; @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @schestowitz @rhymebyter @tqbf And that's why I'd use things like TLS 1.2 (PFS) and Signal, as if I was at Starbucks using their wifi.Jan 20 01:23
schestowitzHope to receive my #purism #librem test unit soon so I can test it for any potential of back doorsJan 20 01:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689619341889765376Jan 20 01:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @tqbf Signal, HTTPS Everywhere, Application Transport Security are designed to assume hostile by default.Jan 20 01:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rhymebyter/status/689619628041998336Jan 20 01:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rhymebyter: @rosyna they aren't unique in that. I still wish Signal would *not* ask for a phone number, at all. Bad metadata, bad. @schestowitz @tqbfJan 20 01:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickMcCanna/status/689620951797882880Jan 20 01:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatrickMcCanna: @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz I think this fellow believes OMA DM pivots to a jailbreak = baseband haxJan 20 01:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689621427750711297Jan 20 01:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz hmm didn't see the OMA reference. But either way it's another reason why Signal is so important - layers.Jan 20 01:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/msolnik/status/689621822870913024Jan 20 01:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@msolnik: @PatrickMcCanna @tqbf @schestowitz but fwiw - we did get baseband code exec with OMA on basebands with it directly built in (not iPhone).Jan 20 01:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tqbf/status/689621938633777152Jan 20 01:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tqbf: @rhymebyter @schestowitz @rosyna Right, but the iPhone isn’t a shared-memory design.Jan 20 01:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SteamAdd/status/689762815482159104Jan 20 10:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SteamAdd: Can you please add me on Steam: Hodennase https://t.co/QvSKcn4aekJan 20 10:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: That Dragon, Cancer is now doing a Linux release on Steam https://t.co/vQoXfG694R #games #gnu #linux #steamJan 20 10:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/689771206107598848Jan 20 11:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz hrmbl. That article still claims #Munich uses #OpenOffice. Munich switched to #LibreOffice however.Jan 20 11:28
schestowitzContact @softpediaJan 20 11:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Vecchi_Paolo/status/689771605673771008Jan 20 11:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Vecchi_Paolo: @jwildeboer Right now 150K users of the Italian MoD are being trained to switch from MS Office to #LibreOffice ;-) @schestowitzJan 20 11:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689776106858160128   https://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689776471401897984Jan 20 11:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz Meh, this is exploiting parsing bugs in userland code that parses data from the network.Jan 20 11:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz (As mentioned, image parsing bugs are easier to find and exploit)Jan 20 11:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689776930086780928Jan 20 11:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz the "meh" was "it's legit but depends on bugs in userland code, not just owning the network interface"Jan 20 11:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosyna/status/689777710361501696Jan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@rosyna: @chronic @msolnik @tqbf @schestowitz And am I reading that right, only Sprint iOS devices support OMA-DM (for iOS devices)?Jan 20 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/infosecretwit/status/689780806315855872Jan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@infosecretwit: https://t.co/SKJaDy4OP0 #Microsoft ’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use #Vista10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate … https://t.co/8UpinuNnAlJan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Microsoft ’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use #Vista10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux https://t.co/dSpt53HJ6OJan 20 12:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use Vista 10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux | TechrightsJan 20 12:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/689781173455867904Jan 20 12:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jurasick: @schestowitz #Microsoft has a stranglehold on hardware manufacturers who don't create updated, bug-free drivers for #Linux. Such a shame.Jan 20 12:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/689187111119921152Jan 20 23:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689944571783020545Jan 20 23:02
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schestowitz> Dear Roy,Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> It'll be a busy day but I was thirsty & the cats woke me up, so before I go toJan 20 23:18
schestowitz> work here you have:Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> battistelli_under_fire_from_franceJan 20 23:18
schestowitz> philip-cordery-in-englishJan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> Have a nice WednesdayJan 20 23:18
schestowitz>Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz> EduardoJan 20 23:18
schestowitzThanks, just in time for ongoing French political action, see details later todayJan 20 23:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/689950851893465088Jan 20 23:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@georgebaily: @schestowitz video "views" became a marketing KPI for pointy haired managersJan 20 23:34
schestowitzewwwJan 20 23:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/689950569289641985Jan 20 23:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: @schestowitz @BrendanEich for Android it demands Crashlytics & youtube apikeys?? To send dumps somewhere and track video I watch? FCK ((Jan 20 23:35
schestowitz"Jan 20 23:51
schestowitzDear Roy,Jan 20 23:51
schestowitzhere the translation you requested in your last post.Jan 20 23:52
schestowitzKing regards.Jan 20 23:52
schestowitz"Jan 20 23:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/689961766319689729Jan 21 00:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: Jimmy Savile inquiry reveals predatory child abuser could be lurking undiscovered. He is actually @schestowitz https://t.co/93xILD90ZQJan 21 00:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theguardian.com | Jimmy Savile inquiry leak reveals scathing criticism of BBC | UK news | The GuardianJan 21 00:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sw1ayfe/status/690116402867478529Jan 21 10:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sw1ayfe: @schestowitz en route so wil get back later. First thoughts for newbie who are you why should i care wtf is going down where to get more 1/2Jan 21 10:22
schestowitzI think that's what the front page does at the moment, harder to find latest news thoughJan 21 10:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sw1ayfe/status/690117264893419520Jan 21 10:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sw1ayfe: @schestowitz 2/2 nav menu more like folders on YOUR desktop than guiding solutions to a users questionsJan 21 10:25
schestowitzThanksJan 21 10:25
schestowitz> https://brave.com/#aboutJan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 10:34
schestowitz> https://brave.com/#fasterJan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 10:34
schestowitz> https://github.com/brave/browser-laptopJan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | brave/browser-laptop: Brave browser for Desktop and Laptop computers running Windows, OSX, and LinuxJan 21 10:34
schestowitz>Jan 21 10:34
schestowitz> Licensed under MPL according to source code, but missing a traditionalJan 21 10:34
schestowitz> LICENSE or COPYING file.  Not all source files contain licensing info.Jan 21 10:34
schestowitzMaybe not yet camera-ready. I chatted with Brendan yesterday, should I pass this feedback to him?Jan 21 10:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mall_dweller/status/690120280581246976Jan 21 10:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mall_dweller: @schestowitz It's pathetic. Can't imagine why anyone taking themselves seriously would attend that clownsfestival.Jan 21 10:34
schestowitz> On 01/21/2016 12:34 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#aboutJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#fasterJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> https://github.com/brave/browser-laptopJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>>Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> Licensed under MPL according to source code, but missing a traditionalJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>> LICENSE or COPYING file.  Not all source files contain licensing info.Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>>Jan 21 11:02
schestowitz>> Maybe not yet camera-ready. I chatted with Brendan yesterday, should IJan 21 11:02
schestowitz>> pass this feedback to him?Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz>Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz> It would be nice to have the i's dotted and the t's crossed.  Not allJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> the files have copyright attribution so without a blanket license forJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> the whole project, they are not FOSS.  But I only checked theJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> 'browser-laptop' code, if it's elsewhere, then the license should beJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> copied to each subproject so that it is guaranteed to contain licensingJan 21 11:03
schestowitz> information.Jan 21 11:03
schestowitzI've just told Brendan.Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz> On 01/21/2016 12:34 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#aboutJan 21 11:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> https://brave.com/#fasterJan 21 11:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-brave.com | Brave Software | Building a Better WebJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> https://github.com/brave/browser-laptopJan 21 11:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | brave/browser-laptop: Brave browser for Desktop and Laptop computers running Windows, OSX, and LinuxJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>>Jan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> Licensed under MPL according to source code, but missing a traditionalJan 21 11:03
schestowitz>>> LICENSE or COPYING file.  Not all source files contain licensing info.Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz>>Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz>> Maybe not yet camera-ready. I chatted with Brendan yesterday, should IJan 21 11:04
schestowitz>> pass this feedback to him?Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz>Jan 21 11:04
schestowitz> It would be nice to have the i's dotted and the t's crossed.  Not allJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> the files have copyright attribution so without a blanket license forJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> the whole project, they are not FOSS.  But I only checked theJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> 'browser-laptop' code, if it's elsewhere, then the license should beJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> copied to each subproject so that it is guaranteed to contain licensingJan 21 11:04
schestowitz> information.Jan 21 11:04
schestowitzI've just told Brendan.Jan 21 11:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/690094869457604608Jan 21 11:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz New comers are lost if they want to read the latest stories by arriving on the front-page.Jan 21 11:30
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-draft-uk-legislation-on.html?showComment=1453335606349#c2397740138677994917Jan 21 11:42
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: BREAKING NEWS - Draft UK Legislation on Unitary Patent and Unified Patents Court [ http://ur1.ca/ofp3z ]Jan 21 11:42
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:42
schestowitz Game over?? Yer man at the EPO was put there to make this happen. Cant wait to hear his triumphant diatribe in his next blog on news of this ( he will probably take the credit for helping perfidious Albion "see the right way to go)Jan 21 11:42
schestowitzAt least now - finally! (and its just a question of time before the UK ratify) - the focus can lift from the EPO and how wonderfully it is being managed (not) to patent attorneys and the issues you will have in making this work.Jan 21 11:42
schestowitzBrexit? ,,,,,,,those people in Davos this week will not let this happen. Too much to lose.Jan 21 11:42
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:42
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1453363523773#c6015949221798745938Jan 21 11:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/ofp42 ]Jan 21 11:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:43
schestowitz My understanding (admittedly from the frothing-at-the-mouth Techrights) is that Topic did not turn up at the Croatian court, and the case was "discontinued".Jan 21 11:43
schestowitzWas this because a final judgement might have said that Topic did do what was alleged, whereas a discontinuance could be spun as a case "not proven"?Jan 21 11:43
schestowitzExasperantoJan 21 11:43
schestowitz[PS - it is a fine world when we have to rely on idiots like Techrights to obtain any information,]Jan 21 11:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 11:43
schestowitzbloody bizarre article https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/richard-masterson-did-a-dubious-confession-sway-a-medical-examiners-autopsy-in-a-texas-death-penalty-case/Jan 21 14:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-theintercept.com | Did a Dubious Confession Sway a Medical Examiner’s Autopsy in a Texas Death Penalty Case? [ http://ur1.ca/ofi72 ]Jan 21 14:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/690178744875683841Jan 21 14:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: This is only a partial truth @schestowitz https://t.co/V3arhYHBzzJan 21 14:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Independent: Leaked review identifies more than 100 BBC employees who had 'heard about Savile’s sexual conduct' https://t.co/XTqvdS5MhKJan 21 14:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mickjosi/status/690178338737000448Jan 21 14:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mickjosi: @schestowitz @All4Privacy @OpenRightsGroup the technical gap between citizens and governments is getting smallerJan 21 14:29
schestowitzvJan 21 16:40
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-draft-uk-legislation-on.html?showComment=1453389708417#c6360839012276094901Jan 21 16:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: BREAKING NEWS - Draft UK Legislation on Unitary Patent and Unified Patents Court [ http://ur1.ca/ofq50 ]Jan 21 16:40
schestowitz"Jan 21 16:40
schestowitz Confused catJan 21 16:40
schestowitzThis matter is unlikely to excite Parliament - now. IP legislation stirs up more trouble than most, and I suspect that is why the unusual approach of allowing secondary legislation to amend primary legislation was adopted.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzHowever, the UP Regulation requires "The participating Member States shall ensure compliance with this Regulation in fulfilling their international obligations undertaken in the EPC and shall cooperate to that end" which implies that the participating Member States should meet their EPC obligations unless contrary to the regulation.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzOf course, the UPC would have no jurisdiction in the matter of determining whether applying different law to a national patent than to a unitary patent or European patent was a breach of its obligations by the UK: but the CJEU would.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzI have now noted some more problems with the SI which I am posting here and which mirrors discussions in IpKat last year here.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitzWhat a shambles.Jan 21 16:40
schestowitz"Jan 21 16:40
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schestowitzMinceR:Jan 21 17:47
schestowitz[–]directhex [score hidden] 49 minutes agoJan 21 17:47
schestowitzBoycott Novell is not a credible source, it's FOSS Infowars.Jan 21 17:47
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/420l5d/the_linux_foundation_has_become_like_a_corporate/Jan 21 17:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.reddit.com | The Linux Foundation Has Become Like a Corporate Think Tank, Microsoft Influence Included : linux [ http://ur1.ca/ofqg4 ]Jan 21 17:47
schestowitzreddit mono boostersJan 21 17:47
schestowitzhe works for xamarin nowJan 21 17:47
schestowitzMS moneyJan 21 17:47
MinceRno surpriseJan 21 17:48
schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/O6-SjhIKnZs/A2cZdmusCQAJJan 21 17:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgj ]Jan 21 17:49
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:49
schestowitzFunny shit.Jan 21 17:49
schestowitzRoy is a few bricks shy of a full load, but even he knows a faggot whenJan 21 17:49
schestowitzhe meets one.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzhttp://www.eenyhelp.com/answer/schestowitz-calls-snit-homosexual-Jan 21 17:50
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schestowitzhelp-205124601.html?page=3Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzchestowitz snit got banned by goblin today Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz not that I expected it Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll I saw that Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz he's still lurking and trolling our other channels OctJan 21 17:50
schestowitz15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz The guy is mentally deranged Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll Wouldnt surprise me Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll Has been for years... Oct 15 03:24Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz IIRC he used to obsess over you in USENET, although IJan 21 17:50
schestowitznever read into those threads Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll I was looking over the site with the music Tim used OctJan 21 17:50
schestowitz15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz*schestowitz I think he's like a closet homosexual Oct 15 03:25*Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz [michael] Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzstevecarroll I dunno... but he is a pathological liar Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzschestowitz or just morbidly obsessed with people Oct 15 03:25Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/i0zUM9Rgnk8/7t734VfyDgAJJan 21 17:50
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgq ]Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz> K00k.  Following me around like a soiled diaper!Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz>Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzPathetic, isn't it?Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzSince Roy Schestowitz quit responding, you apparently became the mainJan 21 17:50
schestowitztarget.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzYou must have pissed off these lunatics one way or the other.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzDon't worry Chris, they aren't even worth your attention.Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzTake care!Jan 21 17:50
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:50
schestowitzmy stalker active yesterdayJan 21 17:51
schestowitzin a forum I've not been in for many yearsJan 21 17:52
schestowitzDr. Schestowitz has NEVER offered evidence for anything he's saidJan 21 17:52
schestowitzwithout using his own articles. It would be like the National EnquirerJan 21 17:52
schestowitzproviding previous National Enquirer articles as evidence that they areJan 21 17:52
schestowitztelling the truth. I don't mind the fact that he's trying to showcaseJan 21 17:52
schestowitzhow horrible Microsoft and the system of proprietary software developersJan 21 17:52
schestowitzis but his articles and especially his manner of speech make GNU/LinuxJan 21 17:52
schestowitzand its users look even worse than they already make themselves look.Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzsource: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/s5oSEd6fua4/144qqbAIEgAJJan 21 17:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgv ]Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzhe's still talking I seeJan 21 17:52
schestowitzthis from today:Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.os.linux.advocacy/schestowitz|sort:date/comp.os.linux.advocacy/FueDJuRaCXg/mq_sIwh9EgAJJan 21 17:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-groups.google.com | Google Groups [ http://ur1.ca/ofqgx ]Jan 21 17:52
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzWhether then or now, GNU/Linux just doesn't work properly for theJan 21 17:52
schestowitzaverage consumer. Back then, it was a bad joke but today, it will workJan 21 17:52
schestowitzbut only if your hardware is fairly dated; anything recent is likely toJan 21 17:52
schestowitzhave sound, video and network issues. You'll say that it's a lie butJan 21 17:52
schestowitzyou're about as credible as the "president" of this newsgroup andJan 21 17:52
schestowitz"Doctor" Schestowitz.Jan 21 17:52
schestowitz"Jan 21 17:52
schestowitzdocker just contacted meJan 21 18:38
schestowitz> Roy,Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> I  just wanted to make sure that you saw the announcement today thatJan 21 18:38
schestowitz> Docker has acquired Unikernel Systems. The release is available here andJan 21 18:38
schestowitz> pasted below:Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160121005388/en/Docker-Acquires-Unikernel-Systems-Extend-Breadth-DockerJan 21 18:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.businesswire.com | Docker Acquires Unikernel Systems to Extend the Breadth of the Docker Platform | Business Wire [ http://ur1.ca/ofqq3 ]Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> . I’m also attaching a briefing doc with additional info.Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz> Please let me know if you have any questions.Jan 21 18:38
schestowitz>Jan 21 18:38
schestowitzSeen it and wrote about it hours ago.Jan 21 18:38
schestowitzhttp://tuxmachines.org/node/84978Jan 21 18:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-tuxmachines.org | Docker buys Unikernel Systems | Tux MachinesJan 21 18:38
schestowitzIf one of your execs want to do an email interview for publication in tux machines, please let me know... we'd be happy.Jan 21 18:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6972432Jan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Calls for boycotting Samsung https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/689529450577301504 I called for it 9 years ago http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SamsungJan 21 23:43
schestowitz"I don’t have a Samsung, but I thought if somebody was following our chat, they might. I had a crap Toshiba a few years ago that tried very hard to be smart, I think it was running an early version of tizen, judging from the error codes it occasionally threw at me when I tortured it…"Jan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@internetofshit: Smart TVs that add advertising to the UI are unacceptable. A reason to boycott Samsung. https://t.co/LXxXtcAuDOJan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Samsung - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/29dd2 ]Jan 21 23:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzSamsung phones are expensive and poor quality compared to other (chinese) makers.Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzI expect Tizen to be an OS more hackable than Android, since it should run a regular linux kernel and wayland, it should be possible to run linux software almost unmodified. But we’ll have to wait to see how it is.Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzThe real problem are the drivers, almost no maker releases the sources but only binary blobs, and port for example cyanogenmod or AOKP is most of the times a pain in the ass.Jan 21 23:43
schestowitz"Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966257Jan 21 23:43
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hillary Clinton: Israel First http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/hillary-clinton-israel-first/ just look at her backers...Jan 21 23:43
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schestowitz"but the picture ;)"Jan 21 23:43
schestowitzit's quality...Jan 21 23:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966236Jan 21 23:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/ http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-pcs-with-intel-skylake-processors-wont-support-windows-78-1/Jan 21 23:44
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/of6wm ]Jan 21 23:44
schestowitz"I was not being optimistic ,infact I see a grim future , this is just a start . I am just sayin’ privacy-aware people will try to switch from windows more often than nowdays . rest assure , microsoft will hang on to this , never to let go ."Jan 21 23:44
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MinceRtizen is lendowsJan 22 01:44
MinceRit has both cancerd and kdbusJan 22 01:45
MinceRit's less unix than android isJan 22 01:45
MinceRit's crapJan 22 01:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GedalaC/status/690350352021983233Jan 22 01:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@GedalaC: I liked avideo160121 EXO kai sehun Focus at Golden Disk Awards https://t.co/IgLOYfdf4WJan 22 01:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #nsa which breaks #encryption & puts back doors in encryption pretends to be pro-encryption https://t.co/uuxeq8PyYZ https://t.co/PJkIqRNGObJan 22 01:52
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oiaohmMinceR: history if tizen is constant mind changing so who knows.Jan 22 03:31
oiaohmMinceR: opp history of tizen should be start of line.  ]Jan 22 03:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/690431558898024448Jan 22 09:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @SuedByGalloway @BBCNewsnight They can't hold a candle to Soros's.Jan 22 09:17
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schestowitz> Thanks.  I thought that github had some kind of reminder for that sortJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> of thing, but either way it is on the way to being fixed.Jan 22 11:36
schestowitz>Jan 22 11:36
schestowitz> PS.  FWIW the circumstances in which California canceled Prop 8 wereJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> decidedly undemocratic and really should be a big warning for far worseJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> violations of democratic process.  But the fags were so greedy aboutJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> victory at any cost that the problem they have permitted is forgotten.Jan 22 11:36
schestowitz> Be sure that it will come back to bite California again later in aJan 22 11:36
schestowitz> different context.Jan 22 11:36
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-draft-uk-legislation-on.html?showComment=1453480096373#c1058611746717412266Jan 22 18:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: BREAKING NEWS - Draft UK Legislation on Unitary Patent and Unified Patents Court [ http://ur1.ca/ofwau ]Jan 22 18:54
schestowitz"Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzI have no wish to add to the misery illuminated by Confused cat, but it needs to come out into the open.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe EU tries hard to pretend it is already a federal union by introducing functions that belong to such an entity: free passage across internal borders and a common court system. The first has been a failure due to a lack of consideration that external borders then need protecting, and the second because there is no consensus. Naive romanticism has driven the politicians to these premature initiatives. The region is being taken advantage of.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzObviously it could be a good idea to have a common patent for all of the EU states, but it must be based on the foundations of patent law, i.e. identical judicial treatment of all users of the system. By pressing ahead with blinkers the patent obtained in the "enhanced cooperation" is a cripple, due to the open wound that an applicant having his application rejected is prevented from getting the same judicial treatment of his cause as one whoJan 22 18:54
schestowitzhas obtained a patent: several instances of appeal.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzBy relying on a subsupplier whose only interest is to administer patent fees and twisting the EPC an unlucky applicant will not even have the independent evaluation by the Boards of Appeal, because the appeals system is being cropped under the eyes of the EPO governing body, the AC.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzIt is completely unreasonable that what purports to be a patent with unitary effect is not based on a patent application with equal treatment.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe harmonisation of the patent laws of the member states, where there has until now been equal treatment according to local patent laws, will lead to a system where the inequality will be manifest. The UPC/UP system does not contain one iota of promise that it will turn out otherwise.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe only fair way to resolve this is to revise the EPC in order to enable submission of a rejection to the normal appeal possibilities.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzThe decision to try for a UP should be made early, at the time of application. UP applications should have examination by the EPO*), appeal to the BoA, and be able to continue in the UPC if the BoA result is unsatisfactory. Maybe the reason it has not developed this way is that it was considered undesirable to revise the EPC. It is a can of worms, but inevitable if the rule of law is to apply. We shall need to put the UPC/UP system on holdJan 22 18:54
schestowitzuntil all of that has been sorted out. There are still a few countries left who can ensure that.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzOtherwise we shall end up with a patent system that is worse than the US system. On the other hand, if the Patent Prosecution Highway develops such that all US grants will automatically become EP grants, it will not matter, provided deadlines are suitably adjusted. Go the American way will be the order of the day!Jan 22 18:54
schestowitzGeorge Brock-NannestadJan 22 18:54
schestowitz*) although no good has come of having the EPO act as a self-governing monopolistic Collossus. But it is there and functional to some degree. It is incomprehensible that the EPO as a mere subsupplier on this shaky foundation is permitted to promote the UPC/UP system so vigorously.Jan 22 18:54
schestowitz"Jan 22 18:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/690594374485434368   https://twitter.com/alain_vde/status/690611852334751744Jan 22 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bastianbest: @schestowitz true, the @EPOorg grants patents for #inventions - both implemented with bolts&rivets or with #softwareJan 22 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@alain_vde: OH CRAP! https://t.co/l6se1DHRf4Jan 22 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "The European Patent Office (EPO) has been granting software patents in Europe" https://t.co/CMIUWvePoB #epo #patents #swpatsJan 22 19:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/690561671744622593  https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/690596042648244224Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @darth Don't hate.Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @HayesBrown that url thoJan 22 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Snowden/status/690517089254297600Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @mikko Hot leeks. https://t.co/94fqKOswaPJan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Snowden: @mikko Hot leeks. https://t.co/94fqKOswaPJan 22 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/waltorr/status/690560699311923202Jan 22 19:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@waltorr: @Snowden This undoes all the good you've done.Jan 22 19:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976564Jan 22 21:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Your Easily Hacked 'Smart' Doorbell Just Gave Up Your WiFi Credentials https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/11405333312/ding-dong-your-easily-hacked-smart-doorbell-just-gave-up-your-wifi-credentials.shtml glad they put "smart" in scare quotesJan 22 21:50
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Ding-Dong -- Your Easily Hacked 'Smart' Doorbell Just Gave Up Your WiFi Credentials | TechdirtJan 22 21:50
schestowitz"Ha, ha, all my wifi are open networks."Jan 22 21:50
schestowitzMine tooJan 22 21:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976485Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The cost of ditching Windows XP? More than $12,000 per person http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-cost-of-ditching-windows-xp-more-than-12000-per-person/ #microsoft does a lot of damage. #gnu #linuxJan 22 21:51
schestowitz"Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | The cost of ditching Windows XP? More than $12,000 per person - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/ofx02 ]Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzWhat a crap article and crap publication. They don’t mention or link to any of the studies showing how many millions were saved by not moving to Vista or Vista 7.Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzWe can conclude that sticking with Windows would have cost more because the usual upgrade train would have required replacing all the XP software anyway, but it would have to have happened on all of the city’s desktops.Jan 22 21:51
schestowitz"Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976525Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa pretends to play defensive in 'cyber' http://www.wsj.com/articles/nsa-chief-says-u-s-at-tipping-point-on-cyberweapons-1453404976 http://www.janes.com/article/57395/countries-starting-to-use-non-state-middlemen-for-cyber-ops https://fcw.com/articles/2016/01/21/rogers-nsa-lyngaas.aspx https://defensesystems.com/articles/2016/01/21/rogers-cyber-doesnt-need-to-be-separate-branch.aspxJan 22 21:51
schestowitz"They mean it this time, eh? Microsoft’s new stuff must be really awful for them to promise even greater threats."Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsj.com | NSA Chief Says U.S. at ‘Tipping Point’ on Cyberweapons - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/ofx05 ]Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.janes.com | Countries starting to use non-state middlemen for cyber ops | IHS Jane's 360 [ http://ur1.ca/ofx06 ]Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> fcw.com | Rogers: Cyber Command capabilities at 'tipping point' -- FCW [ http://ur1.ca/ofx07 ]Jan 22 21:51
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> defensesystems.com | Rogers: Cyber doesn't need its own military branch -- Defense Systems [ http://ur1.ca/ofx08 ]Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzMicrosoft is a partner... to themJan 22 21:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6973279Jan 22 21:52
schestowitz"Do you know the brand?"Jan 22 21:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft ’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use #Vista10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2016/01/20/escaping-microsoft-malware/Jan 22 21:52
schestowitzNo, didn't askJan 22 21:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Campaign to Force Everyone to Use Vista 10 Should Drive/Motivate Immediate Escape to GNU/Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ofnfw ]Jan 22 21:52
schestowitzIt's GE, but not sure which machine/model nameJan 22 21:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6976576Jan 22 21:52
schestowitz"Free software on “Microsoft’s Azure cloud” is NSA monitored and US dominated."Jan 22 21:53
schestowitzIndeed, as should be made clearer universallyJan 22 21:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Major Banks Complete ‘Modest’ #Blockchain Test http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2016/01/20/major-banks-complete-modest-blockchain-test/ #linux poweredJan 22 21:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blogs.wsj.com | Major Banks Complete ‘Modest’ Blockchain Test - The CIO Report - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/ofx0a ]Jan 22 21:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6975574Jan 22 21:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: .@LinuxFoundation causes uproar by quietly removing community representation from its board http://www.information-age.com/industry/software/123460821/linux-foundation-causes-uproar-quietly-removing-community-representation-its-board time to demand answersJan 22 21:53
schestowitz"Just a few months after some other subversion by Microsoft, we have this."Jan 22 21:53
schestowitzLF responded with utter BS. I hope people scrutinise them until we gain back sanityJan 22 21:53
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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz>Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz> Here's the latest status report, together with the strike petition isJan 23 10:24
schestowitz> managed by an independent lawyer.Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz>Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz> The picture was taken in the Erhardtstraße in Munich, in front of theJan 23 10:24
schestowitz> EPO seat.Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz>Jan 23 10:24
schestowitz> Regards,Jan 23 10:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/690842767354896384Jan 23 10:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Zeipt: "Война это мир. массовая слежка это свобода" Узнаете риторику? Так сейчас узаконивают бэкдоры и запрещают шифрование https://t.co/WEGbuyL03SJan 23 10:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #war is peace, #surveillance is freedom? https://t.co/AnTjGp5YPM #california gives us comedian #JimCooperJan 23 10:35
schestowitzII- Ongoing ac ons:Jan 23 10:41
schestowitz- A “Call for strike” (see a ached document) is obviously circula ng in the EPO since a few days:Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzo The pe on addresses the suspension and the “lawfulness” in the EPO;Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzo calls for ONE DAY of STRIKE in March;Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzo In emails it is suggested to distribute amongst colleagues and send the collected and signedJan 23 10:41
schestowitzpe ons either directly to the indicated lawyer or to any Staff representa on of yourJan 23 10:41
schestowitzchoice before next Friday, the 29.01.16Jan 23 10:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/690852514816749569Jan 23 11:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Air power does not conquer. Never has and never will. It's just infantry support.Jan 23 11:06
schestowitzhttp://www.theverge.com/2016/1/21/10811232/epa-flint-michigan-contaminated-lead-water-crisisJan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theverge.com | EPA orders Michigan to take 'immediate action' on Flint water crisis | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/og0p8 ]Jan 23 16:36
schestowitz-Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/flint-michigan-lead-water-crisis.htmlJan 23 16:36
schestowitz-Jan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/og0pb ]Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttp://www.cracked.com/blog/5-huge-scandals-happening-right-now-weve-been-ignoring/Jan 23 16:36
schestowitz-Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttp://www.thenation.com/article/invisible-hand-of-the-free-market-man-in-flint/Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzNow /that's/ running government like a business.Jan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.cracked.com | 5 Huge Scandals Happening Right Now (We've Been Ignoring) | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/og0pd ]Jan 23 16:36
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thenation.com | Invisible-Hand-of-the-Free-Market Man in Flint | The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/og0pe ]Jan 23 16:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/690936526692290560Jan 23 16:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@qu1j0t3: Pollution respects borders, you muppet! https://t.co/IFWIUihchxJan 23 16:40
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Haze crisis cost #Indonesia almost 2% of GDP, #WorldBank says https://t.co/WYsqw3Z31F what about neighbouring nations?Jan 23 16:40
schestowitz> xJan 23 17:01
schestowitz> http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/stockholm/misshandlar-och-spottar-mamman-i-ansiktetJan 23 17:01
schestowitz>Jan 23 17:01
schestowitz> xJan 23 17:01
schestowitz> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3410575/Shocking-moment-thief-PUNCHES-mother-face-spits-young-children-stops-stealing-elderly-woman.htmlJan 23 17:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.svt.se | Misshandlar och spottar mamman i ansiktet - Nyheter | SVT.se [ http://ur1.ca/og0rs ]Jan 23 17:01
schestowitz>Jan 23 17:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dailymail.co.uk | Thief PUNCHES mother in the face and spits on her for stepping in | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/og0rt ]Jan 23 17:01
schestowitz> FYI compare the common photon in the two sets of photos.  Who's beingJan 23 17:01
schestowitz> protected?Jan 23 17:01
schestowitzYou tell me...Jan 23 17:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/690941144440664064Jan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sine_injuria: @M5S_CMRoma https://t.co/K1qO8IBAMBJan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Depraved Indifference Toward #Flint https://t.co/CfFR4TNr55 people who murder but are rich won't go to prisonJan 23 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArtKen/status/690946477019901952Jan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ArtKen: This is long term mass murder And no one will left a finger to hold them responsible NO ONE https://t.co/aRSUANA4s0Jan 23 17:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NewsToYouToday/status/690947967088467968Jan 23 17:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NewsToYouToday: @schestowitz #RickSnyder holding on for dear life! He's hoping Rs win WH. He wants cabinet post w/eyes on his own POTUS run. #FlintForEverJan 23 17:27
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schestowitz>>> >> http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/stockholm/misshandlar-och-spottar-mamman-i-ansiktetJan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >> xJan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3410575/Shocking-moment-thief-PUNCHES-mother-face-spits-young-children-stops-stealing-elderly-woman.htmlJan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >>Jan 23 17:48
schestowitz>>> >> FYI compare the common photon in the two sets of photos.  Who's beingJan 23 17:49
schestowitz>>> >> protected?Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz>> >Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz>> > You tell me...Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz> The attacker in the SVT site's pictures was digitally obscured.  ItJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> would have been a nice, clear, large image of his face several times.  IJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> read in another article that they think they've arrested him.  But oneJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> has got to wonder about the priorities of the "news" mediaJan 23 17:49
schestowitz>Jan 23 17:49
schestowitz> There should be something interesting happening at the end of Feb.  TheJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> police announced that they would gather from all over the region toJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> descend on a particular neighborhood, one where they've mostly beenJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> unable to go.  I'm not sure the point nor why they are announcing it soJan 23 17:49
schestowitz> publicly so far in advance.Jan 23 17:49
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schestowitz>> #Thu Jan 21 21:03:26 PST 2016Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > > It was a tough day bro but here it goes:Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > > pier_yves_leborgn_letterJan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>>> > > Have a nice FridayJan 23 19:27
schestowitz>> >Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz>> > Thanks, my dad is staying over, so didn't get around to it until now.Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz> If he still with you give him my regards. He must be proud to have a son withJan 23 19:27
schestowitz> balls! :-)Jan 23 19:27
schestowitzheh.Jan 23 19:27
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz> Here it goes bro:Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz> linux-foundation-coupJan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz> I'll get to you later. Have a nice day.Jan 23 19:35
schestowitz>Jan 23 19:36
schestowitz> EduardoJan 23 19:36
schestowitzCheers!Jan 23 19:36
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQeXZrcdADc&feature=youtu.be&aJan 23 21:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Louis van Gaal's Presser | Manchester United 0-1 Southampton - YouTubeJan 23 21:00

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