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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Western media wrote about a hospital with - GASP - white people being bombed by US, why not cover similar incidents with Arabs only? | Oct 18 08:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | And even so coverage is lacking, have you seen below news elsewhere? | Oct 18 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.rt.com/news/318910-tank-msf-hospital-afghanistan/ | Oct 18 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 08:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.rt.com | US tank enters MSF hospital in Afghanistan’s Kunduz, ‘destroys potential evidence’ – reports — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/o2jg2 ] | Oct 18 08:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6713571 | Oct 18 08:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #techrights turns 9 in about 3 weeks. A decade minus one. Nearly 20,000 articles, plus Wiki pages, documents, etc. | Oct 18 08:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Congratulations. =)" | Oct 18 08:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Took so much personal sacrifice | Oct 18 08:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6713612 | Oct 18 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 10:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Capitalism and Its Regulation Delusion: Lessons From the #Volkswagen Debacle http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33250-capitalism-and-its-regulation-delusion-lessons-from-the-volkswagen-debacle billionaires & institutional corruption | Oct 18 10:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.truth-out.org | Capitalism and Its Regulation Delusion: Lessons From the Volkswagen Debacle | Oct 18 10:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | Well… They didn’t cheat european tests, it’s just the european tests have nothing to do with real-life use-cases for the cars in question. Which is a result of the car industry writing the laws for these tests. | Oct 18 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | But they obviously did that in California. Maybe they hoped to get away with it without being caught or thought nobody would go the lengths of doing a real test ever. | Oct 18 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | I think we can agree that it was at least criminally stupid (if not criminally) acting. | Oct 18 10:11 |
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| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > This morning, this story has disappeared from TR: | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2015/10/15/epo-aiding-a-racketeer/ | Oct 18 10:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2015/10/15/epo-aiding-a-racketeer/ ) | Oct 18 10:13 | |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > What's up? Did the admin pw get cracked? | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Stay tuned... under a sort of 'gag' until I get clearance. | Oct 18 10:14 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 10:14 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6716359 | Oct 18 11:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #scotland independence event coverage by Murray https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/10/a-day-in-aberdeen/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/10/nicola-sturgeon-is-wrong-let-unionists-vote-for-unionists/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/10/the-art-of-party-management/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/10/doh-wrong-again/ | Oct 18 11:19 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » A Day in Aberdeen | Oct 18 11:19 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Nicola Sturgeon is Wrong: Let Unionists Vote for Unionists | Oct 18 11:19 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » The Art of Party Management | Oct 18 11:19 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Doh! Wrong Again! | Oct 18 11:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: just spoke to a lawyer in this area | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | 'Prank' letters is what he calls these | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | the EPO's | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Example of "prank letter", published Saturday AM: | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/epo-bullying-critics/ | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | What I deem the latest example of defaming one's own staff, published Saturday AM: | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/epo-total-war-on-critics/ | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Relates to what I wrote on Friday: http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/crushing-dissent-at-epo/ | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Watch how the personal attacks extends to the media already. | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Attached are the leaks on which the coverage under attack by the EPO's "prank letter" is based. | Oct 18 13:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO is Trademark-Bullying Its Critics, Trying Repeatedly to Remove Bad Publicity With Help From Menacing Legal Threats (SLAPP) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o1xj9 ] | Oct 18 13:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | To follow (next E-mail): complete text of the article under scrutiny. | Oct 18 13:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO Cleverly Frames Total War Against Its Own Staff as a War Against Nazism | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o2m2p ] | Oct 18 13:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The ‘Sherlocks’ of EPO/Spin-Doctoring Pretend That All of the EPO’s Problems Boil Down to One Disgruntled Person (Updated) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o1sjg ] | Oct 18 13:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Please send: | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | 1. a copy of the post; | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | 2. a copy of your reply email to the law firm. | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6716516 | Oct 18 13:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The state of KDE: Pretty but unstable http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-state-of-kde/ "Believe me, I want KDE to succeed." Well said. #kde | Oct 18 13:25 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Interesting Design approach indeed, tested Fedora, Kubuntu, Manjaro all the same Results ... unstable, crashes, lags" | Oct 18 13:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | The state of KDE: Pretty but unstable - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/o2maj ] | Oct 18 13:25 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: | Oct 18 14:27 |
| r_schestowitz | Spoke to the lawyer today. First assessment: the letter I received is basically "prank letter" (his words), not written by a professional, complete "bullshit" (his words). The lawyer is a renowned libel attorney and journalist. | Oct 18 14:27 |
| r_schestowitz | It looks like another new scandal in the making as I'm not the only target of such letters. Let's not mention anything publicly just yet. | Oct 18 14:27 |
| r_schestowitz | Spoke to the lawyer today. First assessment: the letter I received is basically "prank letter" (his words), not written by a professional, complete "bullshit" (his words). The lawyer is a renowned libel attorney and journalist. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | It looks like another new scandal in the making as I'm not the only target of such letters. Let's not mention anything publicly just yet. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | thanks - very glad to hear it was just bullying. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | don't worry, I won't mention any of this until you decide to write about | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | it publicly. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | (-gm) | Oct 18 15:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | > Dear Roy | Oct 18 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > Glad you've been able to take legal advice. No-one in my team of writers knows much about defamation, though there is a feeling that an action would be hard-pressed to succeed under UK defamation law given the public interest dimension and the problems that the EPO would face in showing any loss. In addition, the EPO would expose itself to a good deal of unwanted publicity and to the disclosure for the purposes of litigation of | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | information which it has not hitherto been willing to make available. This latter consideration might reasonably lead one to think that the EPO will not want to have its bluff called and face real litigation in England and Wales. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | > The IPKat's Around the Weblog item tomorrow will be leading with some comments about the EPO's reluctance to foster sensible discussion and debate. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Thank you, Madam. :-) | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I look forward to your next post (I've been subscribed because of you). | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | In social media I have called for people to leak any threatening letters they received from the EPO, I.U. or any external legal firms. Many anonymous EPO people are following me, so I hope some of them have something to share in the coming week. How widespread is this phenomenon really? Inside the institution? Outside of it? Have any MEPs who publicly complained about the EPO's management (that's over 100 MEPs) received letters accusing | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | them too of defamation? Who knows, they send these letters to activists/campaigners like myself, and I reckon journalists too, not just staff, independent boards and unions. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Recently, Ms Hardon or a colleague (or follow union leader) leaked threatening letters and her response to it (via a legal firm), accusing the EPO is "institutional harassment", as per definition of harassment. Hardon is not the only one facing such abuse, but it's hard to properly anonymise such letters, so not many people come out or come forward to make their cases known/publicised. I wonder how many people surrender and maybe even get | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | manipulated (payment, apology); remember that the letter sent to me still had someone else's name (a German name). It was clearly a rushed job. Maybe they did this in bulk in preparation for what I was told on Friday is a new media strategy of Battistelli (to start this week). | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I wish to remind you that Topic probably did this before, even back in Croatia. A blogger who expose his corruption (bribes) took down the article and posted an apology. It was very weird; there was almost definitely strong-arming. At the same time, a defamation case in Croatia (over the allegations in this article) was lost by Topic, giving credibility to this story. It was only months later. In the internal EPO site the 'apology' ( | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | placement) was linked as 'proof' of Topic being innocent, yet nothing was said when shortly after he lost his defamation case in Zagreb. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | believe that Topic faces something like 6 criminal charges in Croatia, yet Battistelli found it possible to appoint him Vice-President and make him his right-hand man (EPO staff say he's like the bulldog in the building now). Having been compelled to review Topic's record, Battistelli's people conducted a very bogus 'internal investigation' (I wrote about this a long time ago), so I reckon they see nothing wrong with his antics. No wonder | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | they now do in Germany what some deem "Balkan standards". | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | 5 people in the EPO committed suicide in recent years. Given information that I have in my possession but have not published yet (it would cause chaos), I think the above abuse may have something to do with at least some of them. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | > Dear Roy, | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Shall we speak at 9am tomorrow morning | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > This is not legal advice, and I would speak to a lawyer as a matter of | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > urgency, but it's worth noting if the European Patent Office wish to sue | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > you, then they ought to be aware of the Derbyshire judgment which makes | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > it hard for public bodies from suing individuals for libel. | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > All the best, Mike | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | Dear Mike, | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I spoke to a fellow blogger who has been covering the EPO scandals for a couple of years and she says something similar -- that they don't have the power to bring legal action. Judging the letter itself, a professional said it's more like a "prank letter" (his words) written in an effort to intimidate (SLAPP), apparently not just me but other people too. | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I believe that some time later this month this will go public; people who have receive such threats (not just myself) need help from legal professionals here, as the EPO is clearly misusing its legal immunity (they are exempted from European law) to bully dissent/critics, even outsiders. | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6717027 | Oct 18 21:44 |
| r_schestowitz | "I read about this like one year ago and blown my mind. Do people really need to be told that repeated hits on their skull are bad for their brain?" | Oct 18 21:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 18 21:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | Some people consider the risk and the gain (money), so there's a compromise. | Oct 18 21:46 |
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| r_schestowitz | MinceR: | Oct 19 10:53 |
| r_schestowitz | good news | Oct 19 10:53 |
| r_schestowitz | pro bono defence from EPO | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > I should be able to do this one pro bono; still finding out. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Pending this, can I have your permission to respond to the lawyers as follows: | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 1. the letter sent was not in accordance with the pre-action protocol; | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 2. it is denied EPO has capability to sue; | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 3. the posts were taken down without any admission of liability; | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 4. you require 14 days to provide a substantive response. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Please confirm by return; happy to deal with any queries. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, certainly. You have my permission to do all the above. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Meanwhile, as I only discovered this morning, this story becomes major news in Germany's newspapers and even radio: | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.br.de/themen/ratgeber/inhalt/computer/europaeisches-patentamt-bevorzugung-microsoft-100.html | Oct 19 10:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.br.de | Europäisches Patentamt: Vorzugsbehandlung für Microsoft, Canon & Co. | Digitales Leben | Ratgeber | Themen | BR.de | Oct 19 10:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.nzz.ch/digital/smartphone-von-pepsi-ld.2439 | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Also in Germany's biggest IT newspaper; English translation and French as well in http://www.suepo.org/public/ex15376cp.pdf | Oct 19 10:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nzz.ch | Redaktionsradar #806: Smartphone von Pepsi - NZZ Digital | Oct 19 10:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Yes, I'm cautious of the Daily Fail. | Oct 19 12:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Sometimes they just repost AP, then it's OK :-) | Oct 19 12:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/656070284714377217 | Oct 19 12:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Techrights apparently gets a lot of request, and the site is not responsive. Perhaps restart your server? | Oct 19 12:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/656070284714377217 | Oct 19 12:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Just reloaded apache, load 39 on just 4 cores... | Oct 19 12:36 |
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| *Topic for #techbytes is: Welcome to the official channel of the TechBytes Audiocast | Oct 19 15:51 | |
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| r_schestowitz | >>>>> in US: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6680640 | Oct 19 17:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #China Your Credit Score Is Now Affected By Your Political Opinions https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2015/10/in-china-your-credit-score-is-now-affected-by-your-political-opinions-and-your-friends-political-opinions/ Hey, the West does this too! | Oct 19 17:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | >>>>> >>> > | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>>>> >>> > | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> Diaspora links are always blank pages with a Diaspora header. It's been | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> that way for as long as I can remember. At this point I;m not sure I | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> can even remember what Diaspora is supposed to be about. | Oct 19 17:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.privateinternetaccess.com | In China, credit score is now affected by friends' activism | Oct 19 17:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> But that said I would no be surprised if politics were tied to credit | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> rating and less so if credit ratings were tied to other forms of access | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> >> or privilege. | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > Enable JavaScript. | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | > Their dependence on JavaScript weakens usability and security, not to | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | > mention effectively blocks tor users. | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | I have JS. Sometimes I just walk away from a site rather than enable it. | Oct 19 17:36 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks_forum/status/656147936682885120 | Oct 19 17:41 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wikileaks_forum: @schestowitz We block trolls and fanatical #Asssnge fanboys #WikiLeaks | Oct 19 17:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656143850734505985 https://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/656133638510129153 https://twitter.com/NickmhTw/status/656092899243859969 https://twitter.com/NickmhTw/status/656093100771663872 | Oct 19 17:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #astroturfing against #assange and #wikileaks while pretending to be "supporters" (front groups' ugly tactic) https://t.co/jHJTRmeu0P | Oct 19 17:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wikileaks_forum: @schestowitz "anti #wikileaks" is a fantasy term created by #Assange groupies.All it implies is that someone is criticizing/opposing Assange | Oct 19 17:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ghabuntu: German Media Shows Discriminatory EPO Practices More Than Just a ‘Pilot’ (Reaching Second Half of 2016), Start... http://t.co/wvQPa7y8TN | Oct 19 17:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656092897671028736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656091465198739456 https://twitter.com/pensadorlouco/status/656089415819902976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656090174460444672 | Oct 19 17:44 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656092897671028736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656091465198739456 https://twitter.com/pensadorlouco/status/656089415819902976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656090174460444672 | Oct 19 17:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | German Media Shows Discriminatory EPO Practices More Than Just a ‘Pilot’ (Reaching Second Half of 2016), Started When Microsoft Pressured EPO (Lodged Complaints) | Techrights | Oct 19 17:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NickmhTw: Discriminatory EPO Practices More Than Just a ‘Pilot’, Started When Microsoft Pressured EPO | Techrights http://t.co/bHKZEnaqFO | Oct 19 17:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | German Media Shows Discriminatory EPO Practices More Than Just a ‘Pilot’ (Reaching Second Half of 2016), Started When Microsoft Pressured EPO (Lodged Complaints) | Techrights | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@NickmhTw: Do people still use windows? Why? | Techrights http://t.co/bHKZEns1xm | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: There is no "[an] EPO scandal", there are many scandals. I can think of around a dozen now. | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The #Apple vs #Android UI/SW #patents war seemingly relates to one of the latest scandals of #epo repressions - details to be out soon. | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@pensadorlouco: The Insecurity of Windows Made Ever More Apparent as Even Microsoft Infects Its Own Operating System http://t.co/JFTH6QaCYL #linux #feedly | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> linkis.com | The Insecurity of Windows Made Ever More Apparent as Even Microsoft Infects Its Own Operating... - Linkis.com | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: The volume of attacks on #techrights has just doubled to 50% of the traffic (was around 25% before). Brute force vs filters. | Oct 19 17:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656090174460444672 https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/655911218339803136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656088699671846912 | Oct 19 17:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@tuxmachines: Links 18/10/2015: OpenBSD 5.8 Released, OpenBSD 20th Birthday http://t.co/uuTb4jidJv | Oct 19 17:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Links 18/10/2015: OpenBSD 5.8 Released, OpenBSD 20th Birthday | Techrights | Oct 19 17:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Media articles in #germany correctly accuse the #epo and cite #techrights but fail to mention EPO banned the whole site (first time ever!) | Oct 19 17:48 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656088349971718148 | Oct 19 17:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #tecchrights now knows the identity of another victim of #epo witch-hunts, but won't publish the name or nationality. #europe #patents | Oct 19 17:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/655911814828453888 | Oct 19 17:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ghabuntu: Links 18/10/2015: OpenBSD 5.8 Released, OpenBSD 20th Birthday: Links for the day http://t.co/qn3IXyyUz6 | Oct 19 17:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Links 18/10/2015: OpenBSD 5.8 Released, OpenBSD 20th Birthday | Techrights | Oct 19 17:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AureaSunol/status/656066723666382848 https://twitter.com/PatentWire/status/655925098482786304 https://twitter.com/lexinerus/status/656028234123997188 https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/656080336066101248 | Oct 19 17:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AureaSunol: Vaya, vaya, hasta en la Oficina Europea de Patentes (Munich) hay corrupción! http://t.co/1ngPHo8qZH | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PatentWire: Links 18/10/2015: OpenBSD 5.8 Released, OpenBSD 20th Birthday http://t.co/Qjwiyecu3D | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Links 18/10/2015: OpenBSD 5.8 Released, OpenBSD 20th Birthday | Techrights | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@lexinerus: ReTw schestowitz: #bbc as #marketing mouthpiece for #microsoft http://t.co/DtlxTRwxDd remember the #hypocrisy http://t.co/hGebco8rOc | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.bbc.com | Microsoft details content removal requests - BBC News | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Criminal Microsoft is Censoring the Web and Breaks Laws to Do So; the Web Should Censor (Remove) Microsoft | Techrights | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: 10.19.15 German Media Shows Discriminatory EPO Practices More Than Just a ‘Pilot’....http://t.co/urhIPfjG1h | Oct 19 17:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mb4llerz/status/656150127565012992 https://twitter.com/wikileaks_forum/status/656150801396727808 | Oct 19 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mb4llerz: @wikileaks_forum @schestowitz lmao another Jules lover boy. How many exactly did Assange had? | Oct 19 17:55 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wikileaks_forum: @mb4llerz @schestowitz I lost count at 23. | Oct 19 17:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | Hello Roy, | Oct 19 17:56 |
| r_schestowitz | The AllSeen Alliance made two important IoT announcements to the AllJoyn framework at The AllSeen Alliance Summit this morning, taking place in Seattle. | Oct 19 17:56 |
| r_schestowitz | The AllJoyn IoT Framework was updated with enhanced security functionality. You can find our release here: https://allseen.linuxfound.info/news/alljoyn-iot-framework-updated-enhanced-security-functionality | Oct 19 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-allseenalliance.org | AllJoyn IoT Framework Updated with Enhanced Security Functionality | AllSeen Alliance | Oct 19 17:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | The AllSeen Alliance launched the AllJoyn Certified Program to ensure IoT products work well together: https://allseenalliance.org/announcement/allseen-alliance-launches-iot-certification-program-ensure-products-work-well-together | Oct 19 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-allseenalliance.org | AllSeen Alliance Launches IoT Certification Program To Ensure Products Work Well Together | AllSeen Alliance | Oct 19 17:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | Please follow AllSeen Summit keynote speakers/panels through our livestream here. We have world-class IoT speakers like Charlie Houchin, former USA Olympic Gold Medal swimmer who prototyped his company’s swim meet app with AllJoyn, Lowe’s, Howdens, Microsoft, Qualcomm, IBM, Affinegy, Euronics, Philips, and more. | Oct 19 17:56 |
| r_schestowitz | Also, below please find news from some of our 180+ AllSeen Alliance members. | Oct 19 17:56 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-new-lifx-color-1000-bulb---bringing-color-into-your-world-300160925.html | Oct 19 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.prnewswire.com | The new LIFX Color 1000 Bulb - Bringing Color into your... -- REDWOOD CITY, Calif., Oct. 18, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- | Oct 19 17:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumer-buying-behavior-iris-by-lowes-reveals-annual-smart-home-survey-results-300160435.html | Oct 19 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.prnewswire.com | Consumer Buying Behavior: Iris by Lowe's Reveals Annual Smart Home Survey Results -- MOORESVILLE, N.C., Oct. 15, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- | Oct 19 17:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.enocean-alliance.org/en/enocean-alliance-and-allseen-alliance-further-the-alljoyn-framework-for-seamless-internet-of-things/ | Oct 19 17:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.enocean-alliance.org | EnOcean Alliance and AllSeen Alliance Further the AllJoyn Framework for a Seamless Internet of Things | Oct 19 17:56 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6719444 | Oct 19 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We’ve Just Learned the Origins of Illegal #Surveillance in the United States Go Back to the 1930s http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160929 | Oct 19 18:00 | |
| r_schestowitz | "The American way of spy" | Oct 19 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> historynewsnetwork.org | History News Network | We’ve Just Learned the Origins of Illegal Surveillance in the United States Go Back to the 1930s [ http://ur1.ca/o3aet ] | Oct 19 18:00 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6718590 | Oct 19 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "With declining market share in the database business, #Oracle lacks a real flagship product. " http://seekingalpha.com/article/3574706-what-it-means-for-investors-that-oracle-has-become-a-me-too-company #db #freesw | Oct 19 18:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | "It starting to show. They are getting rid of Standard Edition for once. Probably because it is eroding their margins." | Oct 19 18:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> seekingalpha.com | What It Means For Investors That Oracle Has Become A 'Me-Too Company' - Oracle Corporation (NYSE:ORCL) | Seeking Alpha | Oct 19 18:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6718834 | Oct 19 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What Did Clinton Mean When She Said Snowden Files Fell Into the “Wrong Hands”? https://theintercept.com/2015/10/14/what-did-clinton-mean-when-she-said-snowden-files-fell-into-the-wrong-hands/ her husband fell into the wrong mouth | Oct 19 18:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Maybe he also fell in the wrong hands, one never knows. :-)' | Oct 19 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> theintercept.com | What Did Clinton Mean When She Said Snowden Files Fell Into the “Wrong Hands”? | Oct 19 18:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | "By that she means the American public of course." | Oct 19 18:04 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6719507 | Oct 19 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Barack Obama was, in 2008, the anti-torture candidate." http://lobelog.com/mouth-wide-shut/ | Oct 19 18:04 | |
| r_schestowitz | "#global #torture #nwo" | Oct 19 18:04 |
| r_schestowitz | https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fspecial%2Fworld%2F11%2F9_11_globalness%2Fimg%2Frendition.gif&sp=ceffff13e16cce13043c9d1b3625fc78 | Oct 19 18:04 |
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| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy, | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > I'm writing a long reply for your last message. | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > I noticed a small problem in the president's communiqué at | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/epo-total-war-on-critics/ | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Three paragraphs got duplicated in the transfer process, and a couple of | Oct 19 19:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO Cleverly Frames Total War Against Its Own Staff as a War Against Nazism | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o2m2p ] | Oct 19 19:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | > typos got in. | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Could you quietly correct the text with the one below? | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Thanks, | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, I noticed the repetition and I will correct it. If you know of someone inside or outside the EPO having been bullied by them, the IU or a legal firm, please let me know ASAP as I consider taking legal action against the EPO (keep quiet about this for now please) | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | my lawyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green | Oct 19 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | David Allen Green - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 19 20:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | I have only just learned who my lawyer is (in the professional and background sense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green ) and he offered to represent me pro bono, perhaps taking action against the EPO for "legal bullying" | Oct 19 20:11 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > I have only just learned who my lawyer is (in the professional and background sense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green ) and he offered to represent me pro bono, perhaps taking action against the EPO for "legal bullying" | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | that's great news - I'm glad that's working out. he has strong opinions | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | on many things, but he's very able, I think. | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | > My observations will follow in an upcoming message. I need to move a | Oct 19 21:04 |
| r_schestowitz | > little bit, and it's more important to get you the stuff first. | Oct 19 21:04 |
| r_schestowitz | > if he is a real whistleblower, could make a big difference: there are | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > increasing numbers of structures to help whistleblowers - I know some, | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > and might be able to contact them if you can confirm he is indeed a bona | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > fide whistleblower and is being pursued as a result. | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | This judge/IT specialist is accused of speaking to colleagues about Topic (see http://techrights.org/2014/11/16/six-criminal-lawsuits-against-zeljko-topic/ ), but EPO goes further by accusing him of speaking to the media or orchestrating something a lot larger than that (which may be a bogus accusation and even if true an allegation, such an action may be justified). Now there is a character assassination campaign because his BOA colleagues | Oct 19 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | and the AC refuse to fire him (EPO cannot directly, it would be against the law and would thus result in embarrassment, maybe even a lawsuit). I believe he is now on 'house ban' with pay halved. | Oct 19 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | If he is not a whistleblower per se, then he is one who speaks truth to power and gets punished for it. Retaliation by smear campaign, in collusion with the media. I am going to stay up until late tonight and write about this truly disturbing situation. Notice that threats against me were made on the same day Battistelli and his chums smeared the man in front of his entire staff, a day after the hack job had been 'planted' in Dutch and | Oct 19 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Special Report: Many Criminal Charges Against EPO Vice-President Željko Topić | Techrights | Oct 19 22:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | German media (that's the two locations of the EPO, although Munich is larger a centre). Some of today's comments in IP Kat speak volumes. | Oct 19 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | >>> if he is a real whistleblower, could make a big difference: there are | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >>> increasing numbers of structures to help whistleblowers - I know some, | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >>> and might be able to contact them if you can confirm he is indeed a bona | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >>> fide whistleblower and is being pursued as a result. | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> This judge/IT specialist is accused of speaking to colleagues about | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> Topic (see | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/2014/11/16/six-criminal-lawsuits-against-zeljko-topic/ | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> ), but EPO goes further by accusing him of speaking to the media or | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> orchestrating something a lot larger than that (which may be a bogus | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> accusation and even if true an allegation, such an action may be | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> justified). Now there is a character assassination campaign because his | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> BOA colleagues and the AC refuse to fire him (EPO cannot directly, it | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> would be against the law and would thus result in embarrassment, maybe | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> even a lawsuit). I believe he is now on 'house ban' with pay halved. | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> If he is not a whistleblower per se, then he is one who speaks truth to | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> power and gets punished for it. Retaliation by smear campaign, in | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> collusion with the media. I am going to stay up until late tonight and | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> write about this truly disturbing situation. Notice that threats against | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> me were made on the same day Battistelli and his chums smeared the man | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> in front of his entire staff, a day after the hack job had been | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> 'planted' in Dutch and German media (that's the two locations of the | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> EPO, although Munich is larger a centre). Some of today's comments in IP | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> Kat speak volumes. | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | > ah, right. yes, I saw the SZ piece; pretty extraordinary. | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | > Here is the latest SUEPO publication. | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Someone else leaked this to me earlier tonight and there is an article on the way if I can stay up till 2am. | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Quick question: can we name Patrick Corcoran already, in his defence? Or premature? Sooner or later people will find out anyway... | Oct 20 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | " | Oct 20 01:50 |
| schestowitz | This has been leaked to me, maybe by the union (SUEPO). I believe the person in question is Irish, Mr. Patrick Cororan. In case the letter itself does not speak for itself, please reply and I will provide suitable background (I have another source who will soon add context). | Oct 20 01:50 |
| schestowitz | Cororan may need legal help. | Oct 20 01:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 20 01:50 |
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| schestowitz | We intend to write more about this tomorrow (not my own case, but this other one). | Oct 20 01:53 |
| schestowitz | > I will leave the internal communiqué aside until your followup on it. It'll also be a separate article. I will merge the earlier part (as an update) to the current article. | Oct 20 01:57 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > I notice that techrights.org still uses an invalid security certificate. | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > You can see it when accessing this URL, among others: | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > https://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > The certificate is only valid for webmail.copilotco.com and it expired | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > on "12/17/2013 08:12 AM". Given the increased pressure on the security | Oct 20 14:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-couldn't connect to host ( status 0 @ https://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved ) | Oct 20 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | > of the site, it might be a wise idea to invest in a proper certificate. | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Hi, I will ask Tracy about it. Never even noticed this before TBH.... | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dvdeijk/status/656463881359855616 | Oct 20 14:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dvdeijk: @schestowitz @glynmoody in 2013 falkvinge wrote another blogpost on the same subject that we translated https://t.co/JRe6Wnk1YA | Oct 20 14:39 | |
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| schestowitz | I have just received another threat from the EPO, regarding yet another article. Maybe at the end I'll just take legal action and charge for illegal takedown attempts -- takedown of stuff that is factually correct. Such action is in itself illegal. | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Believe it or not, Mr. Capone (yes, real name!) is now doing legal bullying for the EPO. They seem to have gotten a cheap and unprofessional 'lawyer' (grossly abusing the law, which he does not even understand) because a serious lawyer would laugh them out, fearing that the legal firm itself can be sued for SLAPP and bullying. | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | No public word on this yet, please... | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | incredible; don't worry, not mentioning this to anyone currently... | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656502708313157632 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656502186499813376 | Oct 20 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Review: The friendly face of Linux Lite 2.6 https://t.co/ccnxpPKvUQ #linuxlite #gnu #linux | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: 5 Ways to Make Arch Linux More Stable https://t.co/OpwiSCr7WK #archlinux #gnu #linux | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.maketecheasier.com | 5 Ways to Make Arch Linux More Stable - Make Tech Easier | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bryan_ivey/status/656507861657325568 | Oct 20 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bryan_ivey: Brute Force Cracking Attempts Against Techrights | Techrights https://t.co/MK2QtW4Pql #Infosec | Oct 20 18:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Brute Force Cracking Attempts Against Techrights | Techrights | Oct 20 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wood5y/status/656502300203175936 | Oct 20 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wood5y: @schestowitz right from the KDE had multiple workspaces; MS has only just caught up | Oct 20 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/miguelencita/status/656504620924182528 | Oct 20 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@miguelencita: @schestowitz Asking for help in FOIA APPEAL DRAFT to investigate Google massive espionage for 2 Spanish Courts at https://t.co/mLBHrdS88P RT | Oct 20 18:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> docs.google.com | Freedom of Information Act Appeal DRAFT for Attorney General criminal investigations concerning Google www.cita.es/attorney-general-chrome - Google Docs | Oct 20 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | > Further to our phone call, this is the holding response I sent at your | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | > instruction. | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I have just reread my own post. Totally defensible, even by citing mainstream media interpretation of the leaks (original and authentic). Only if you think that it is worth taking down the post will I do so. | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | If the criteria for takedown (and apology!) is as terrible as in that last one (worse an example than the first), then they can just libel-troll a lot of other articles, as they probably already do against other people (the totally wrong surname in the first letter serves to confirm this). | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | This whole campaign of libel-trolling, which I presume is the frantic result of Grant and others potentially risking the sack (for their actions and the resultant public outcry from European lawyers, i.e. the clients of EPO), is ideologically indefensible. | Oct 20 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I believe that IAM was somehow complicit in helping the EPO here because they're longtime foes of mine and they leaked TWO original documents that I gave them confidentially while TWICE telling them to absolutely NOT publish (they did anyway, compromising my sources). | Oct 20 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, like I said, multiples of the $10,000 per semester of baseline of in | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > state public education. $20,000 per semester gives you the $40,000 per year | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > you saw, without other living expenses. A more expensive university, like | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > Harvard or Tulane, will set you back 60 or 70 per year. Scholarships offered | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > are often bad jokes that cover things like the overpriced on campus housing | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > or meal plans. | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/how-aid-works/cost-attendance | Oct 21 01:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-college.harvard.edu | Cost of Attendance | Harvard College | Oct 21 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | > http://admission.tulane.edu/aid/tuition.php | Oct 21 01:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-admission.tulane.edu | Tulane Admission: Tuition & Fees [ http://ur1.ca/o4ip9 ] | Oct 21 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > Tulane was cheaper when I went there but soon cost more than Harvard. People | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > without family backing walked away with a debt that cost more than the | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > average house at the time. | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > These costs are from a combination of factors that Chomsky explains well. In | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > the wake of Vietnam war protests, rich and powerful people decided that there | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > was too much education and wealth in the world. Board members were generally | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > business people who agreed that education should be limited and restricted. | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > An expensive class of administrators were hired to take control of otherwise | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > free wheeling universities and costs were pushed onto students. These two | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > things compounded each other through the 80s and 90s. Public universities | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > have been starved of funding, which made things even worse. The net result | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > is reduced education and wealth for most people. | Oct 21 01:27 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728125 | Oct 22 18:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I hate #kf5 (in its current form). If the imminent new release isn't much better, I will abandon #kde for the first time in 15 years. | Oct 22 18:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | ""Oh, so you should say "I will abandon Kubuntu" ;-) For Kubuntu 15.04 a mistake was made imo: shipping Plasma 5. But Kubuntu is not Plasma, and is not KDE. I suggest to you to try other distros if you love KDE software like Plasma. You could try Kubuntu 15.10 released today, or KaOS or other distro with KDE spin. Anyway if you love previous Plasma (not Plasma 5) you could use Kubuntu 14.04 LTS or Chakra that provide the first Plasma :-) ( | Oct 22 18:24 |
| r_schestowitz | these are options nearer to your actual config then distro with other DEs)"" | Oct 22 18:24 |
| r_schestowitz | My config files are now in qt5/kf5 form, so going back wouldn't be wise. I will need to find a build in which kf5 is not such a laggy, heavy experience. kubuntu jumped the gun with kf5 inclusion. | Oct 22 18:25 |
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| r_schestowitz | “A new release of Kubuntu is available”. Press “Upgrade”, enter password, then nothing happens (tried 5 times). Basic bug, losing confidence | Oct 22 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6732733 | Oct 22 21:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Canonical Revives the Ubuntu Developer Summit Event, Calls It UbuCon Summit http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-revives-the-ubuntu-developer-summit-event-calls-it-ubucon-summit-495034.shtml | Oct 22 21:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Canonical Revives the Ubuntu Developer Summit Event, Calls It UbuCon Summit - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/o5ggh ] | Oct 22 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | "Good! I feel like the Ubuntu community really needs a shot in the arm. Things have felt too quiet for too long." | Oct 22 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Except in softpedia | Oct 22 21:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728125 | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Please, notice that KDE Frameworks 5 is a set of libreries and I doubt your bugs are caused by them. Instead Plasma 5 has issues with particular hw config, and often the bugs are in drivers, in Qt or distro packaging. Please read this recent post by KWin developer: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-of-plasma-5/ | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | If Kubuntu fail the upgrade it’s a bug by distro, not a bug by KDE software. So please the next time give the fault to the right software ;-) | Oct 22 21:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.martin-graesslin.com | Some thoughts on the quality of Plasma 5 | Martin's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/o3whx ] | Oct 22 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to tell what to attribute the performance issues to, be it graphics, systemd, kubuntu integration, or kf5, but overall on this standard hardware 15.04 was a disaster. My upgrade should finish in 1.5 hours, so I will know if there's a pleasant surprise. I saw Grasslin's post as soon as he published it. | Oct 22 21:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6727810 | Oct 22 21:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sites that wrongly assume people abandoned RSS for #facebook and #twitter (utter BS) neglect to make RSS feeds. Self-fulfilling prophecy. | Oct 22 21:36 | |
| schestowitz | "RSS feeds research that makes intelligent comment . Oh yeah, that’s not what FB is for." | Oct 22 21:36 |
| schestowitz | FB actually has RSS feeds for activities/notifications, not for timelines I think | Oct 22 21:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6730491 | Oct 22 21:37 |
| schestowitz | "What can I say? I’m a speed reader." | Oct 22 21:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Something is hammering on #techrights hard this morning and it's not legit traffic, designed to just max up CPU/RAM | Oct 22 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728183 | Oct 22 21:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The open source system is now used by companies such as NASDAQ..." http://bravenewcoin.com/news/coinprism-releases-an-open-source-transaction-chain-2/ #bitcoin #coinprism | Oct 22 21:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> bravenewcoin.com | Coinprism releases an open source ‘transaction chain’ » Brave New Coin | Oct 22 21:38 | |
| schestowitz | "Why does the name sound like counter intelligence prism?" | Oct 22 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Created by a Microsofter. Microsoft the #1 PRISM company. | Oct 22 21:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728059 | Oct 22 21:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Strong push for #openaccess tin #us #education (to combat monopolies) http://dailycollegian.com/2015/10/19/letter-open-source-textbooks-can-combat-rising-prices/ http://www.ischoolguide.com/articles/30194/20151019/affordable-college-textbook-act-provides-major-impact-future-america-s.htm http://www.care2.com/causes/a-change-to-textbooks-could-mark-a-shift-in-americas-future.html | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | "Wikibooks on radiation oncology are excellent. The sources are still paywalled, which is a crime, but cooperation makes much of the practical information available." | Oct 22 21:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dailycollegian.com | Letter: Open source textbooks can combat rising prices : The Massachusetts Daily Collegian | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.ischoolguide.com | Affordable College Textbook Act Provides Major Impact on Future of America’s Higher Education : News : ISchoolGuide | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.care2.com | A Change to Textbooks Could Mark a Shift in America's Future | Care2 Causes | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | Are the paywalled things funded by public money? | Oct 22 21:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6732381 | Oct 22 21:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Organic milk tastes exactly the same as typical milk, packaging different and different standards. Is it not just more about marketing? | Oct 22 21:45 | |
| schestowitz | "Hopefully without all the drugs and hormones of commercial milk." | Oct 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Like bovine growth hormone? | Oct 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6730633 | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | There’s a Conversation Happening about having a conversation About whether or not there’s a possibility that, maybe, there are Inequities in the Criminal Justice System. | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | But that is progress. | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Progressiveness | Oct 22 21:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6726661 | Oct 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "Talk about persistence!! They just keep on trying to pass these things hoping we are stupid enough and short sighted enough to have forgotten the last time they tried it!' | Oct 22 21:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trade Groups Are Coming Out Against #CISA . We Need Individual Companies To Do The Same https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/tech-industry-trade-groups-are-coming-out-against-cisa-we-need-individual https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151020/14140232580/senate-pushes-forward-with-cisa-as-internet-industry-pulls-support.shtml | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eff.org | Tech Industry Trade Groups Are Coming Out Against CISA. We Need Individual Companies To Do The Same | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/o4jep ] | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Senate Pushes Forward With CISA As Internet Industry Pulls Its Support | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/o5gup ] | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | New strategy, new marketing, maybe now naming China as a cyber-threat, Russia in Ukraine, kiddie pr0n, terrorism, copyright woes... | Oct 22 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | [22:18] <amichair> schestowitz: can u access a terminal? | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:18] <schestowitz> yes | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:18] <schestowitz> all working ok | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:18] <schestowitz> but if I reboot, I don't know... | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:19] <amichair> maybe try "apt-get install -f" to fix any broken dependencies | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> the upgrader just froze at around 80%, 50 mins left (installing packages) | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> cheers, hang on while I try | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> wily uses dpkg | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:20] <amichair> schestowitz: the GUI is probably holding that lock | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:20] <schestowitz> "Distribution Upgrade" is what corresponds to wily in the windows-process sense I assume.. | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:21] <amichair> I personally wouldn't reboot with a half-installation, but try to complete the installation first | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:21] <schestowitz> process wily is mared as [R]unning with 3.3% of the CPU | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:21] <amichair> how long has it been frozen for? | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:21] <schestowitz> should I kill the windows and rerun the whole thing (would that even be possible)? | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:22] <schestowitz> *the window (Distribution Upgrade) | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:22] <schestowitz> it has been forzen for half an hour | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:23] <amichair> schestowitz: maybe u can peek at the installer logs to see where it got, and maybe what it got stuck on | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:23] <schestowitz> I'd love to think or pretend to myself that it still installs packages in the background, but I doubt it, esp. with so little CPU usage | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:23] * schestowitz looking | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:24] <amichair> I think it was in /var/log/apt or something like that | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:24] <amichair> or /var/log/dist-upgrade | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <amichair> that would make more sense | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <schestowitz> I see a lot of grub stuff in system at around 21:44:35 | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <schestowitz> will see disto-updade | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <amichair> there you have the logs by date, but also terminal log (I don't remember what's what, but worth checking out everything) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <schestowitz> No updates to files since it froze (see timestamp) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <schestowitz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 76262 Oct 22 21:48 main.log | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <schestowitz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 417468 Oct 22 21:47 term.log | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:27] <amichair> anything suspicious at the end of the log? | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:27] <schestowitz> Yes | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:27] <schestowitz> I can see the error | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:28] <schestowitz> 2015-10-22 21:48:24,074 ERROR not handled exception in KDE frontend: | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:28] <schestowitz> Traceback (most recent call last): | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:28] <schestowitz> there is then lots of python stuff traced back | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <amichair> sounds like it confirms the gui indeed crashed | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> is there a way to run/complete/resume the upgrade from CLI? | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> last line in logs (in case it helps kubuntu devs): | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> File "/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-z170xzyt/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py", line 339, in conffile | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> self.confDialogue.show_difference_button.clicked.connect(self.showConffile()) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> TypeError: argument 1 has unexpected type 'NoneType' | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> 2015-10-22 21:48:24,083 DEBUG running apport_crash() | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> 2015-10-22 21:48:29,872 DEBUG enabling apt cron job | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <amichair> schestowitz: I'm no expert, but I think if it was already in the middle of upgrading packages that the apt-get install -f should continue the job | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:30] <genii> !pastebin| schestowitz | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <ubottu> schestowitz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:30] <schestowitz> should I close the windows, force-kill the job by deleting the lock or whatever and then try to resume? | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <schestowitz> ubottu: thanks, will do | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <ubottu> schestowitz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <marktaff> schestowitz: I had it lock up durin 15.10 do-release-upgrade as well. I rebooted, incanted 'dpgk configure -a' (someone verify that command pls) And it finished fine, excpet in my case I had major issues as I had to install the new nvidia 352 driver to get kde to work at all. HTH | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <amichair> that's what I would do, but if you're in no hurry, perhaps you should wait for someone with a bit more experience to join here | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <schestowitz> maybe I'll wait, I really appreciate your help, amichair, and I am happy to see I'm not alone with such an issue | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <amichair> no problem. I haven't upgraded yet, but this sort of thing has happened to me in more upgrades in the past than I'd care to remember | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <schestowitz> the upgrade resolved a HUGE issue I had in kubuntu 15.04 and suffered from for 6 months (performance issue with plasmashell and kwin | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:33] <KNRO_> is there Kubuntu-backports for 15.10 now? | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:34] <amichair> looking at the man page, it looks like dpkg configure -a only re-does the configuration part, not the unpacking | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:34] <amichair> the apt-get install -f should do both I think | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <schestowitz> I can't even kill the windows gracefully, maybe it wants root or -9 | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <KNRO_> oh sweet, looks like 15.10 is use KDE Frameworks 5.15 | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:38] <schestowitz> amichair: I killed it as root, now I use sudo dpkg --configure -a and it seemingly resumes where it left off, in the CLI. I hope the cleanup stage of "wily" (upgrader) isn't imperative to getting it to work, maybe also some configuration like grub and whatnot... | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:39] <amichair> schestowitz: I'm not sure if it does more than apt-get autoremove/clean or such | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:39] <amichair> also try the apt-get thing afterwards just in case... it can't hurt | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <amichair> (if there are no broken dependencies it won't do anything) | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <marktaff> I followed the dpkg command with am apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. In my case, the command said nothing to be done, and the base system seemed fine via ssh, but kde was totally useless for me until I added in the nvidia ppa and installed the 352 driver. | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:41] <amichair> marktaff: sounds like you finished the unpacking stage at least... schestowitz crashed in the middle of that | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:42] <marktaff> amichair: it's been a long frustrating day, but I seem to recall it locking up about 80% of the way through unpacking. I could be wrong though. :-) | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> that's what happened to me | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> about 80% | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> while going through the already-downloaded packages | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <amichair> marktaff, schestowitz: please do report the bug with the stacktrace... so it will be fixed before I try to upgrade :-) | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <marktaff> yeah, the downloading only took me about 4 minutes (big pipe). | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:44] <marktaff> amichair: lol, the system was too hosed at that point for a trace. | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <amichair> marktaff: maybe you'll find it in the logs, where schestowitz found it | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <amichair> in /var/log/dist-upgrade | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <marktaff> lemme check | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> roy@ted:/var/log/dist-upgrade$ tail -n 200 main.log | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:47] <schestowitz> see what broke it | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:47] <schestowitz> maybe it's the same for both of us | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> apt-get now stopped at the same package that got it stopped when the gui was running "Setting up libsane-common (1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2) ..." | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> and it asks a question, maybe the GUI could not handle a dialogue | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:48] <amichair> schestowitz: I actually had that theory, but kept it to myself :-) | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> when the windows froce is saud lib-sane | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <amichair> it's supposed to handle some dialogs, but maybe something there wasn't standard | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> I assume the scanning crap, with some dll in there | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> Configuration file '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf' | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> quite an irregular question after that | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> so maybe we found a likely culprit here | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <amichair> the diff dialog? | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> Y or I : install the package maintainer's version | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> N or O : keep your currently-installed version | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> D : show the differences between the versions | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> Z : start a shell to examine the situation | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> So... a bit irregular, I guess | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <amichair> yeah, that's actually standard I think | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> maybe the python front end thing couldn't render that as a window, at least that's my wild guess | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <amichair> when it an't decide if it should overwrite your custom configuration files with the (newer) default ones | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:52] <amichair> the gui is supposed to handle that (it did in previous upgrades) | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <amichair> but obviously there's a bug... maybe some character changed and threw the whole thing off | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:53] <amichair> I wonder if marktaff hit the same bug with the same package | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:55] <schestowitz> let's wait for input, just tweeted a gentle warning about this because it seems as though I'm not the only one encountering this | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:56] <Yato> So, I have a problem. Display scaling isn't working properly for me. | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <Yato> 1) if it isn't a round number, it appears like it just ignores it | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <Yato> 2) it won't apply to window decorations | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <marktaff> I haven't found any errors in the logs yet. | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <Yato> any tips? | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:57] <schestowitz> marktaff: what's the last line in that log file? | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:58] <schestowitz> tail -n 5 /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <arist0v> hello, i have an issue with my kubuntu, my Xorg process have a massive memory usage and i can'T find why and how to stop it! | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <schestowitz> arist0v: I had this issue in kubuntu 15.04 | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <schestowitz> which one are you on? | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <amichair> well since he continued the update later, maybe it's not the last line anymore, or not in that file but in the dated archived logs | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <arist0v> schestowitz, LTS | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <schestowitz> 14.04 then | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <schestowitz> sounds like it's potentially a graphics driver issue | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <arist0v> i have read somewhere to disable kde-plasma i tried it but didn'T work | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <amichair> schestowitz: I'll be back a bit later - good luck! (and don't forget to report the bug :-) ) | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:00] <schestowitz> yeah, if I can get stronger confirmation that it's the dialogue thing that crashed the upgrader and at which point | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:01] <schestowitz> will run 'apt-get install -f' later | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | [23:01] <amichair> schestowitz: if it says there's nothing left to do, you should be good to go | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:01] <schestowitz> dbus-daemon has been upgraded from a version with incompatible configuration. | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:01] <schestowitz> New configuration will be loaded after the next reboot. | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | [23:06] <marktaff> I have 2 files, one set was archived into a folder w/today's date--that one ends in "2015-10-22 10:31:26,296 DEBUG enabling apt cron job" | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | [23:06] <schestowitz> reboot, fingers crossed | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6737317 | Oct 24 01:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Assuming people are guilty because of the colour of their skin http://www.modernghana.com/news/650710/1/eritrean-mistakenly-killed-opens-old-wounds-in-isr.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea%E2%80%93Israel_relations #Eritrea #Israel | Oct 24 01:38 | |
| schestowitz | "sad result of the “palestinian” terror" | Oct 24 01:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.modernghana.com | Eritrean mistakenly killed opens old wounds in Israel | Oct 24 01:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> en.wikipedia.org | Eritrea–Israel relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 24 01:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6732381 | Oct 24 01:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Organic milk tastes exactly the same as typical milk, packaging different and different standards. Is it not just more about marketing? | Oct 24 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah the government subsidizes non-organic farmers making a larger price gap." | Oct 24 01:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6738801 | Oct 24 13:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NSA also is planning to adopt the shared desktop environment led by the Defense Intelligence Agency" http://federalnewsradio.com/technology/2015/10/nsas-move-cloud-includes-something-borrowed-something-new/ military branch | Oct 24 13:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> federalnewsradio.com | NSA’s move to the cloud includes something borrowed, something new - FederalNewsRadio.com | Oct 24 13:08 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235062/Blonde-Danish-teenager-15-murdered-mother-kitchen-knife-watching-ISIS-videos-beheading-British-hostages-online.html | Oct 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dailymail.co.uk | Lisa Borch murdered her mother after watching ISIS beheading videos | Daily Mail Online | Oct 24 15:13 | |
| schestowitz | Girl kills mom (happens), they find a way to associate that with beheading and ISIS. I bet you a bundle Daily Fail distorted the real story, but I'm not too familiar with it. And the headline, ew... | Oct 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > "To post a comment, log into your chosen social network..." | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece | Oct 24 15:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dallasnews.com | Ahmed Mohamed swept up, 'hoax bomb' charges swept away as Irving teen's story floods social media | Dallas Morning News | Oct 24 15:14 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > trackers on top of anti-electronics, anti-hardware hack hysteria | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Ah, give us your real ID to comment. Hate those... | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-13 | Oct 24 15:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.crowdsupply.com | Librem 13: A Laptop That Respects Your Rights | Crowd Supply | Oct 24 15:14 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | > (Flash on the page?) | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | > 101% funded at the moment | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | They're sending us a review unit soon... | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/16/they-thought-it-was-a-bomb-ahmed-mohamed-texas-9th-grader-arrested-after-bringing-a-home-built-clock-to-school/ | Oct 24 15:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.washingtonpost.com | ‘They thought it was a bomb': 9th-grader arrested after bringing a home-built clock to school - The Washington Post | Oct 24 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/657920046862348288 | Oct 24 15:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz #lessig on @KimDotcom https://t.co/CXozlYJjcp "The position of the United States is extreme and wrong. " | Oct 24 15:17 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> lessig.tumblr.com | Kim Dotcom | LESSIG Blog, v2 | Oct 24 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/657920561721573377 | Oct 24 15:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Watch what #facebook gets a patent on https://t.co/l1t1da2TM7 self-explanatory. Facebook is a virus. Inoculate now. | Oct 24 15:18 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.google.com | Patent US20150124107 - Associating cameras with users and objects in a social networking system - Google Patents | Oct 24 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/purpleohms/status/657926084411944960 | Oct 24 15:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@purpleohms: @schestowitz living wage foundation figure higher than Gideon's new minimum wage, this is a good move, better for the staff. | Oct 24 15:28 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-appoints-general-counsel-brad-smith-as-president/ | Oct 24 15:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.seattletimes.com | Microsoft appoints general counsel Brad Smith as president | The Seattle Times | Oct 24 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > Sent a similar link the other day already. When they promote a lawyer | Oct 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > to the top they are no longer even pretending to be a tech company. | Oct 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HildaPalmer/status/657927990706348033 | Oct 24 15:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HildaPalmer: @schestowitz @glynmoody ISDS lite #NoTTIP | Oct 24 15:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Faaz71/status/657928551317000192 | Oct 24 15:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Faaz71: ISDS by any other name, still spells coup d'etat. As TTIP does treason. https://t.co/jP9j6uoYQ6 | Oct 24 15:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: EU puts fresh coat of paint on ISDS, now re-branded as “Investment Court System” https://t.co/4lQwgzEt1w note - ISDS effectively renamed | Oct 24 15:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Anonylox/status/657937761509355520 | Oct 24 16:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Anonylox: @schestowitz @eee_eff American prisons are there for the pure purpose of turning a profit & nothing else. #privateprisons | Oct 24 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/657937126542168064 | Oct 24 16:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Google Taken to Court to Uncloak eBook Pirates https://t.co/kKbCHSc32f why you must never trust #blogspot for #anonymity | Oct 24 16:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | Google Taken to Court to Uncloak eBook Pirates - TorrentFreak | Oct 24 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | > <no link> | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > The daily fail has had dozens of anti-Corbyn articles in the last day or | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > so? WTF? That's not a news source, it's a propaganda engine. | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > - | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.thenation.com/article/can-jeremy-corbyn-free-labour-from-the-dead-hand-of-tony-blair/ | Oct 24 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thenation.com | Can Jeremy Corbyn Free Labour From the Dead Hand of Tony Blair? | The Nation | Oct 24 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | > http://news.softpedia.com/news/tutorial-for-microsoft-to-help-it-kill-linux-491638.shtml | Oct 24 16:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.softpedia.com | How to Kill Linux: A Tutorial for Microsoft - Softpedia | Oct 24 16:19 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | > step 2 : kdbus | Oct 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds will surrender sooner or later. Like he did with UEFI... | Oct 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | > https://twitter.com/JohnSmythe44/status/658015277767094273 | Oct 24 21:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JohnSmythe44: 90% killed accidentally! Indiscriminate assassination? https://t.co/ZfBCg2eHpK | Oct 24 21:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Snowden And #Ellsberg Hail Leak Of #Drone Documents From New #Whistleblower https://t.co/C6CtQCBi1r | Oct 24 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yawnbox/status/658015641652166656 | Oct 24 21:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yawnbox: @schestowitz cc @jbrooks_ | Oct 24 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658025530348867584 | Oct 24 22:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Any of YOUR specific recommendations for @SenSanders ...? | Oct 24 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | better him than clinton or gop | Oct 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MishiChoudhary/status/658025702609043456 | Oct 24 22:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MishiChoudhary: Feel the Bern ! https://t.co/BS5KFbW8UG | Oct 24 22:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Bernie Sanders Is Very Worried About Your Data https://t.co/qOFbcH86W0 #privacy | Oct 24 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658027028382220288 | Oct 24 22:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz WoW! You make a sweeping statement: so-- Is it absolutely TRUE? Can we distinguish "smart phones" from other mobile phones? | Oct 24 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | Old phones were not considered 'smart'. Today all are... | Oct 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658029302781374464 | Oct 24 22:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz 3) Are you flatly contradicting the claims of DEFCOM that their Ap & servers in Monaco makes smart-phones private? | Oct 24 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | the phone can be taken over remotely, via the OS | Oct 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658029504758067200 | Oct 24 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz 4) Must be very expensive hosting servers in Monaco! (Do you think they'd let me stay there?) | Oct 24 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/658031567386845185 | Oct 24 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @schestowitz In fairness within the USA relying on "human intelligence" would result in another deficit.... | Oct 24 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658032948029976576 | Oct 24 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @SenSanders True, true... | Oct 24 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ActivistsNZ/status/658033409143341056 | Oct 24 22:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ActivistsNZ: @Tanewha @travellerev @smashdracs @HalloweenMike1 @PiratePartyNZ @techliberty @MandyHager @Colin_R_Gale @amplifyonly https://t.co/BQ86Umsyiu | Oct 24 22:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Google has been recording you. Here’s how to delete the files https://t.co/WGffGoacWb #google #privacy | Oct 24 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658033584293330944 | Oct 24 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz ...so my tiny Samsung "burn phone" is (dangerously) SMART ? Any alternatives? Or:"All mobile phones are vulnerable in this way" | Oct 24 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | What model is it? | Oct 24 22:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658033781350133760 | Oct 24 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: All & every kind of mobile phone in current use by public? https://t.co/wggwWPKLcc | Oct 24 22:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FrancisJeffrey7 the phone can be taken over remotely, via the OS | Oct 24 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | old ones tricker to takeover from the tower | Oct 24 22:38 |
| schestowitz | trickier | Oct 24 22:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658036819854929920 | Oct 24 22:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz sgh-a157v ud | Oct 24 22:50 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6737317 | Oct 24 23:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Assuming people are guilty because of the colour of their skin http://www.modernghana.com/news/650710/1/eritrean-mistakenly-killed-opens-old-wounds-in-isr.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea%E2%80%93Israel_relations #Eritrea #Israel | Oct 24 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | so u need 2 change the subject?"" | Oct 24 23:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.modernghana.com | Eritrean mistakenly killed opens old wounds in Israel | Oct 24 23:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> en.wikipedia.org | Eritrea–Israel relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 24 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 24 23:05 |
| schestowitz | my comment about the subject was dedicated 2 cronos | Oct 24 23:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/10/23/israeli-arabs-demonstrate-for-israel-at-tel-aviv-u-im-a-muslim-and-i-have-no-other-country/ | Oct 24 23:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.algemeiner.com | Israeli Arabs Demonstrate for Israel at Tel Aviv U: 'I'm a Muslim and I Have No Other Country' | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com | Oct 24 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 24 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Not everyone feels the way they do. | Oct 24 23:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6737317 | Oct 24 23:18 |
| schestowitz | nobody said that, but i think, they have a point, except tunesia, israel is the most liberal democrary (and besides tunesia and lebanon the only one) in the middle east, even when there r a lot of proplems in israel (and the westbank), in the whole middle east, itz worst" | Oct 24 23:18 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35989/ | Oct 24 23:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lxer.com | LXer: Ms. Dainty strikes again: Linix kernel dev who asked Linus Torvalds to stop swearing quits over swearing | Oct 24 23:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich | Oct 24 23:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Roman Abramovich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 24 23:38 | |
| schestowitz | "In 1988, as perestroika opened up opportunities for privatization in the Soviet Union, Abramovich got a chance to legitimize his old business.[9] He and Olga set up a company making dolls. Within a few years his wealth spread from oil conglomerates to pig farms and he also started investing in other businesses." | Oct 24 23:38 |
| schestowitz | "Chris Hutchins, a biographer of Putin, describes the relationship between the Russian president and Abramovich as like that between a father and a favorite son. Abramovich himself says that when he addresses Putin he uses the Russian language's formal "Вы" (like Spanish "usted", German "Sie" or French "vous"), as opposed to the informal "ты" (Spanish "tú", German "du" or French "tu"). Abramovich says that the reason is because 'he is | Oct 24 23:40 |
| schestowitz | more senior than me'." | Oct 24 23:40 |
| schestowitz | "In October 1991, he married a former Russian Aeroflot stewardess, Irina Vyacheslavovna Malandina.[68][69] They divorced in 2007.[12][19] He and Malandina have five children; Ilya, Arina, Sofia, Arkadiy and Anna.[69][70] On 15 October 2006, the News of the World reported that Irina had hired two top UK divorce lawyers, following reports of Abramovich's close relationship with the then 25-year-old Dasha Zhukova, the former girlfriend of the | Oct 24 23:42 |
| schestowitz | tennis player Marat Safin and daughter of a prominent Russian oligarch, Alexander Radkin Zhukov. It was speculated that a future divorce settlement (amounting to a conjectured £5.5 billion (€6.5 billion)) might be the highest ever on record. The Abramoviches replied that neither had consulted attorneys at that point.[71][72] However, they later divorced in Russia in March 2007, with a settlement reported as being US$300 million (€213 | Oct 24 23:42 |
| schestowitz | million).[69][73] Abramovich has two children with Zhukova, a son, Aaron Alexander, and a daughter, Leah Lou." | Oct 24 23:42 |
| schestowitz | "He owns a private Boeing 767-33A/ER, registered in Aruba as P4-MES. It is known as "The Bandit" due to its cockpit paint detail. Originally the aircraft was ordered by Hawaiian Airlines but the order was cancelled and Abramovich bought it from Boeing and refitted it to his own requirements. He also owns a Dassault Falcon 7X with registration LX-MES. It's called the 'Mini bandit'" | Oct 24 23:43 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6713956 | Oct 18 08:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Western media wrote about a hospital with - GASP - white people being bombed by US, why not cover similar incidents with Arabs only? | Oct 18 08:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | And even so coverage is lacking, have you seen below news elsewhere? | Oct 18 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.rt.com/news/318910-tank-msf-hospital-afghanistan/ | Oct 18 08:49 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 08:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.rt.com | US tank enters MSF hospital in Afghanistan’s Kunduz, ‘destroys potential evidence’ – reports — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/o2jg2 ] | Oct 18 08:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6713571 | Oct 18 08:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #techrights turns 9 in about 3 weeks. A decade minus one. Nearly 20,000 articles, plus Wiki pages, documents, etc. | Oct 18 08:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Congratulations. =)" | Oct 18 08:50 |
| r_schestowitz | Took so much personal sacrifice | Oct 18 08:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6713612 | Oct 18 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 10:11 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Capitalism and Its Regulation Delusion: Lessons From the #Volkswagen Debacle http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33250-capitalism-and-its-regulation-delusion-lessons-from-the-volkswagen-debacle billionaires & institutional corruption | Oct 18 10:11 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.truth-out.org | Capitalism and Its Regulation Delusion: Lessons From the Volkswagen Debacle | Oct 18 10:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | Well… They didn’t cheat european tests, it’s just the european tests have nothing to do with real-life use-cases for the cars in question. Which is a result of the car industry writing the laws for these tests. | Oct 18 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | But they obviously did that in California. Maybe they hoped to get away with it without being caught or thought nobody would go the lengths of doing a real test ever. | Oct 18 10:11 |
| r_schestowitz | I think we can agree that it was at least criminally stupid (if not criminally) acting. | Oct 18 10:11 |
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| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > This morning, this story has disappeared from TR: | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2015/10/15/epo-aiding-a-racketeer/ | Oct 18 10:13 |
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| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | > What's up? Did the admin pw get cracked? | Oct 18 10:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Stay tuned... under a sort of 'gag' until I get clearance. | Oct 18 10:13 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6716359 | Oct 18 11:19 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Doh! Wrong Again! | Oct 18 11:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: just spoke to a lawyer in this area | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | 'Prank' letters is what he calls these | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | the EPO's | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Example of "prank letter", published Saturday AM: | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/epo-bullying-critics/ | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | What I deem the latest example of defaming one's own staff, published Saturday AM: | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/epo-total-war-on-critics/ | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Relates to what I wrote on Friday: http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/crushing-dissent-at-epo/ | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Watch how the personal attacks extends to the media already. | Oct 18 13:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Attached are the leaks on which the coverage under attack by the EPO's "prank letter" is based. | Oct 18 13:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO is Trademark-Bullying Its Critics, Trying Repeatedly to Remove Bad Publicity With Help From Menacing Legal Threats (SLAPP) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o1xj9 ] | Oct 18 13:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | To follow (next E-mail): complete text of the article under scrutiny. | Oct 18 13:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO Cleverly Frames Total War Against Its Own Staff as a War Against Nazism | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o2m2p ] | Oct 18 13:07 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The ‘Sherlocks’ of EPO/Spin-Doctoring Pretend That All of the EPO’s Problems Boil Down to One Disgruntled Person (Updated) | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o1sjg ] | Oct 18 13:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | Please send: | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | 1. a copy of the post; | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | 2. a copy of your reply email to the law firm. | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 18 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6716516 | Oct 18 13:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The state of KDE: Pretty but unstable http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-state-of-kde/ "Believe me, I want KDE to succeed." Well said. #kde | Oct 18 13:25 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Interesting Design approach indeed, tested Fedora, Kubuntu, Manjaro all the same Results ... unstable, crashes, lags" | Oct 18 13:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | The state of KDE: Pretty but unstable - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/o2maj ] | Oct 18 13:25 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: | Oct 18 14:27 |
| r_schestowitz | Spoke to the lawyer today. First assessment: the letter I received is basically "prank letter" (his words), not written by a professional, complete "bullshit" (his words). The lawyer is a renowned libel attorney and journalist. | Oct 18 14:27 |
| r_schestowitz | It looks like another new scandal in the making as I'm not the only target of such letters. Let's not mention anything publicly just yet. | Oct 18 14:27 |
| r_schestowitz | Spoke to the lawyer today. First assessment: the letter I received is basically "prank letter" (his words), not written by a professional, complete "bullshit" (his words). The lawyer is a renowned libel attorney and journalist. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | It looks like another new scandal in the making as I'm not the only target of such letters. Let's not mention anything publicly just yet. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | thanks - very glad to hear it was just bullying. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | don't worry, I won't mention any of this until you decide to write about | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | it publicly. | Oct 18 15:33 |
| r_schestowitz | (-gm) | Oct 18 15:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | > Dear Roy | Oct 18 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | > Glad you've been able to take legal advice. No-one in my team of writers knows much about defamation, though there is a feeling that an action would be hard-pressed to succeed under UK defamation law given the public interest dimension and the problems that the EPO would face in showing any loss. In addition, the EPO would expose itself to a good deal of unwanted publicity and to the disclosure for the purposes of litigation of | Oct 18 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | information which it has not hitherto been willing to make available. This latter consideration might reasonably lead one to think that the EPO will not want to have its bluff called and face real litigation in England and Wales. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | > The IPKat's Around the Weblog item tomorrow will be leading with some comments about the EPO's reluctance to foster sensible discussion and debate. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Thank you, Madam. :-) | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I look forward to your next post (I've been subscribed because of you). | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | In social media I have called for people to leak any threatening letters they received from the EPO, I.U. or any external legal firms. Many anonymous EPO people are following me, so I hope some of them have something to share in the coming week. How widespread is this phenomenon really? Inside the institution? Outside of it? Have any MEPs who publicly complained about the EPO's management (that's over 100 MEPs) received letters accusing | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | them too of defamation? Who knows, they send these letters to activists/campaigners like myself, and I reckon journalists too, not just staff, independent boards and unions. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Recently, Ms Hardon or a colleague (or follow union leader) leaked threatening letters and her response to it (via a legal firm), accusing the EPO is "institutional harassment", as per definition of harassment. Hardon is not the only one facing such abuse, but it's hard to properly anonymise such letters, so not many people come out or come forward to make their cases known/publicised. I wonder how many people surrender and maybe even get | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | manipulated (payment, apology); remember that the letter sent to me still had someone else's name (a German name). It was clearly a rushed job. Maybe they did this in bulk in preparation for what I was told on Friday is a new media strategy of Battistelli (to start this week). | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I wish to remind you that Topic probably did this before, even back in Croatia. A blogger who expose his corruption (bribes) took down the article and posted an apology. It was very weird; there was almost definitely strong-arming. At the same time, a defamation case in Croatia (over the allegations in this article) was lost by Topic, giving credibility to this story. It was only months later. In the internal EPO site the 'apology' ( | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | placement) was linked as 'proof' of Topic being innocent, yet nothing was said when shortly after he lost his defamation case in Zagreb. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | believe that Topic faces something like 6 criminal charges in Croatia, yet Battistelli found it possible to appoint him Vice-President and make him his right-hand man (EPO staff say he's like the bulldog in the building now). Having been compelled to review Topic's record, Battistelli's people conducted a very bogus 'internal investigation' (I wrote about this a long time ago), so I reckon they see nothing wrong with his antics. No wonder | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | they now do in Germany what some deem "Balkan standards". | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | 5 people in the EPO committed suicide in recent years. Given information that I have in my possession but have not published yet (it would cause chaos), I think the above abuse may have something to do with at least some of them. | Oct 18 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | > Dear Roy, | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Shall we speak at 9am tomorrow morning | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > This is not legal advice, and I would speak to a lawyer as a matter of | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > urgency, but it's worth noting if the European Patent Office wish to sue | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > you, then they ought to be aware of the Derbyshire judgment which makes | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > it hard for public bodies from suing individuals for libel. | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > All the best, Mike | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | Dear Mike, | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I spoke to a fellow blogger who has been covering the EPO scandals for a couple of years and she says something similar -- that they don't have the power to bring legal action. Judging the letter itself, a professional said it's more like a "prank letter" (his words) written in an effort to intimidate (SLAPP), apparently not just me but other people too. | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | I believe that some time later this month this will go public; people who have receive such threats (not just myself) need help from legal professionals here, as the EPO is clearly misusing its legal immunity (they are exempted from European law) to bully dissent/critics, even outsiders. | Oct 18 19:56 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6717027 | Oct 18 21:44 |
| r_schestowitz | "I read about this like one year ago and blown my mind. Do people really need to be told that repeated hits on their skull are bad for their brain?" | Oct 18 21:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 18 21:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | Some people consider the risk and the gain (money), so there's a compromise. | Oct 18 21:46 |
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| r_schestowitz | MinceR: | Oct 19 10:53 |
| r_schestowitz | good news | Oct 19 10:53 |
| r_schestowitz | pro bono defence from EPO | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > I should be able to do this one pro bono; still finding out. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Pending this, can I have your permission to respond to the lawyers as follows: | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 1. the letter sent was not in accordance with the pre-action protocol; | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 2. it is denied EPO has capability to sue; | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 3. the posts were taken down without any admission of liability; | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > 4. you require 14 days to provide a substantive response. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Please confirm by return; happy to deal with any queries. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, certainly. You have my permission to do all the above. | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Meanwhile, as I only discovered this morning, this story becomes major news in Germany's newspapers and even radio: | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.br.de/themen/ratgeber/inhalt/computer/europaeisches-patentamt-bevorzugung-microsoft-100.html | Oct 19 10:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.br.de | Europäisches Patentamt: Vorzugsbehandlung für Microsoft, Canon & Co. | Digitales Leben | Ratgeber | Themen | BR.de | Oct 19 10:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.nzz.ch/digital/smartphone-von-pepsi-ld.2439 | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Also in Germany's biggest IT newspaper; English translation and French as well in http://www.suepo.org/public/ex15376cp.pdf | Oct 19 10:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nzz.ch | Redaktionsradar #806: Smartphone von Pepsi - NZZ Digital | Oct 19 10:54 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | > Yes, I'm cautious of the Daily Fail. | Oct 19 12:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Sometimes they just repost AP, then it's OK :-) | Oct 19 12:21 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/656070284714377217 | Oct 19 12:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Techrights apparently gets a lot of request, and the site is not responsive. Perhaps restart your server? | Oct 19 12:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/656070284714377217 | Oct 19 12:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Just reloaded apache, load 39 on just 4 cores... | Oct 19 12:36 |
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| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Roy, | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > I'm writing a long reply for your last message. | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > I noticed a small problem in the president's communiqué at | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/epo-total-war-on-critics/ | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Three paragraphs got duplicated in the transfer process, and a couple of | Oct 19 19:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | EPO Cleverly Frames Total War Against Its Own Staff as a War Against Nazism | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o2m2p ] | Oct 19 19:12 | |
| r_schestowitz | > typos got in. | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Could you quietly correct the text with the one below? | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | > Thanks, | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | Yes, I noticed the repetition and I will correct it. If you know of someone inside or outside the EPO having been bullied by them, the IU or a legal firm, please let me know ASAP as I consider taking legal action against the EPO (keep quiet about this for now please) | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | my lawyer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green | Oct 19 20:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | David Allen Green - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 19 20:06 | |
| r_schestowitz | I have only just learned who my lawyer is (in the professional and background sense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green ) and he offered to represent me pro bono, perhaps taking action against the EPO for "legal bullying" | Oct 19 20:11 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | >> > I have only just learned who my lawyer is (in the professional and background sense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_Green ) and he offered to represent me pro bono, perhaps taking action against the EPO for "legal bullying" | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | that's great news - I'm glad that's working out. he has strong opinions | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | on many things, but he's very able, I think. | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Oct 19 20:35 |
| r_schestowitz | > My observations will follow in an upcoming message. I need to move a | Oct 19 21:04 |
| r_schestowitz | > little bit, and it's more important to get you the stuff first. | Oct 19 21:04 |
| r_schestowitz | > if he is a real whistleblower, could make a big difference: there are | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > increasing numbers of structures to help whistleblowers - I know some, | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > and might be able to contact them if you can confirm he is indeed a bona | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | > fide whistleblower and is being pursued as a result. | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | This judge/IT specialist is accused of speaking to colleagues about Topic (see http://techrights.org/2014/11/16/six-criminal-lawsuits-against-zeljko-topic/ ), but EPO goes further by accusing him of speaking to the media or orchestrating something a lot larger than that (which may be a bogus accusation and even if true an allegation, such an action may be justified). Now there is a character assassination campaign because his BOA colleagues | Oct 19 22:31 |
| r_schestowitz | and the AC refuse to fire him (EPO cannot directly, it would be against the law and would thus result in embarrassment, maybe even a lawsuit). I believe he is now on 'house ban' with pay halved. | Oct 19 22:32 |
| r_schestowitz | If he is not a whistleblower per se, then he is one who speaks truth to power and gets punished for it. Retaliation by smear campaign, in collusion with the media. I am going to stay up until late tonight and write about this truly disturbing situation. Notice that threats against me were made on the same day Battistelli and his chums smeared the man in front of his entire staff, a day after the hack job had been 'planted' in Dutch and | Oct 19 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Special Report: Many Criminal Charges Against EPO Vice-President Željko Topić | Techrights | Oct 19 22:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | German media (that's the two locations of the EPO, although Munich is larger a centre). Some of today's comments in IP Kat speak volumes. | Oct 19 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | >>> if he is a real whistleblower, could make a big difference: there are | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >>> increasing numbers of structures to help whistleblowers - I know some, | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >>> and might be able to contact them if you can confirm he is indeed a bona | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >>> fide whistleblower and is being pursued as a result. | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> This judge/IT specialist is accused of speaking to colleagues about | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> Topic (see | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/2014/11/16/six-criminal-lawsuits-against-zeljko-topic/ | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> ), but EPO goes further by accusing him of speaking to the media or | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> orchestrating something a lot larger than that (which may be a bogus | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> accusation and even if true an allegation, such an action may be | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> justified). Now there is a character assassination campaign because his | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> BOA colleagues and the AC refuse to fire him (EPO cannot directly, it | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> would be against the law and would thus result in embarrassment, maybe | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> even a lawsuit). I believe he is now on 'house ban' with pay halved. | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> If he is not a whistleblower per se, then he is one who speaks truth to | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> power and gets punished for it. Retaliation by smear campaign, in | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> collusion with the media. I am going to stay up until late tonight and | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> write about this truly disturbing situation. Notice that threats against | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> me were made on the same day Battistelli and his chums smeared the man | Oct 19 23:58 |
| schestowitz | >> in front of his entire staff, a day after the hack job had been | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> 'planted' in Dutch and German media (that's the two locations of the | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> EPO, although Munich is larger a centre). Some of today's comments in IP | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | >> Kat speak volumes. | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | > ah, right. yes, I saw the SZ piece; pretty extraordinary. | Oct 19 23:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | > Here is the latest SUEPO publication. | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Someone else leaked this to me earlier tonight and there is an article on the way if I can stay up till 2am. | Oct 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Quick question: can we name Patrick Corcoran already, in his defence? Or premature? Sooner or later people will find out anyway... | Oct 20 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > I notice that techrights.org still uses an invalid security certificate. | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > You can see it when accessing this URL, among others: | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > https://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > The certificate is only valid for webmail.copilotco.com and it expired | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | > on "12/17/2013 08:12 AM". Given the increased pressure on the security | Oct 20 14:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-couldn't connect to host ( status 0 @ https://techrights.org/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=approved ) | Oct 20 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | > of the site, it might be a wise idea to invest in a proper certificate. | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Hi, I will ask Tracy about it. Never even noticed this before TBH.... | Oct 20 14:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dvdeijk/status/656463881359855616 | Oct 20 14:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dvdeijk: @schestowitz @glynmoody in 2013 falkvinge wrote another blogpost on the same subject that we translated https://t.co/JRe6Wnk1YA | Oct 20 14:39 | |
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| schestowitz | I have just received another threat from the EPO, regarding yet another article. Maybe at the end I'll just take legal action and charge for illegal takedown attempts -- takedown of stuff that is factually correct. Such action is in itself illegal. | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Believe it or not, Mr. Capone (yes, real name!) is now doing legal bullying for the EPO. They seem to have gotten a cheap and unprofessional 'lawyer' (grossly abusing the law, which he does not even understand) because a serious lawyer would laugh them out, fearing that the legal firm itself can be sued for SLAPP and bullying. | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | No public word on this yet, please... | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | incredible; don't worry, not mentioning this to anyone currently... | Oct 20 17:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656502708313157632 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/656502186499813376 | Oct 20 18:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Review: The friendly face of Linux Lite 2.6 https://t.co/ccnxpPKvUQ #linuxlite #gnu #linux | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: 5 Ways to Make Arch Linux More Stable https://t.co/OpwiSCr7WK #archlinux #gnu #linux | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.maketecheasier.com | 5 Ways to Make Arch Linux More Stable - Make Tech Easier | Oct 20 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bryan_ivey/status/656507861657325568 | Oct 20 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@bryan_ivey: Brute Force Cracking Attempts Against Techrights | Techrights https://t.co/MK2QtW4Pql #Infosec | Oct 20 18:03 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Brute Force Cracking Attempts Against Techrights | Techrights | Oct 20 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wood5y/status/656502300203175936 | Oct 20 18:03 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@wood5y: @schestowitz right from the KDE had multiple workspaces; MS has only just caught up | Oct 20 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/miguelencita/status/656504620924182528 | Oct 20 18:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@miguelencita: @schestowitz Asking for help in FOIA APPEAL DRAFT to investigate Google massive espionage for 2 Spanish Courts at https://t.co/mLBHrdS88P RT | Oct 20 18:04 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> docs.google.com | Freedom of Information Act Appeal DRAFT for Attorney General criminal investigations concerning Google www.cita.es/attorney-general-chrome - Google Docs | Oct 20 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | > Further to our phone call, this is the holding response I sent at your | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | > instruction. | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I have just reread my own post. Totally defensible, even by citing mainstream media interpretation of the leaks (original and authentic). Only if you think that it is worth taking down the post will I do so. | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | If the criteria for takedown (and apology!) is as terrible as in that last one (worse an example than the first), then they can just libel-troll a lot of other articles, as they probably already do against other people (the totally wrong surname in the first letter serves to confirm this). | Oct 20 18:29 |
| schestowitz | This whole campaign of libel-trolling, which I presume is the frantic result of Grant and others potentially risking the sack (for their actions and the resultant public outcry from European lawyers, i.e. the clients of EPO), is ideologically indefensible. | Oct 20 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I believe that IAM was somehow complicit in helping the EPO here because they're longtime foes of mine and they leaked TWO original documents that I gave them confidentially while TWICE telling them to absolutely NOT publish (they did anyway, compromising my sources). | Oct 20 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, like I said, multiples of the $10,000 per semester of baseline of in | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > state public education. $20,000 per semester gives you the $40,000 per year | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > you saw, without other living expenses. A more expensive university, like | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > Harvard or Tulane, will set you back 60 or 70 per year. Scholarships offered | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > are often bad jokes that cover things like the overpriced on campus housing | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > or meal plans. | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/how-aid-works/cost-attendance | Oct 21 01:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-college.harvard.edu | Cost of Attendance | Harvard College | Oct 21 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | > http://admission.tulane.edu/aid/tuition.php | Oct 21 01:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-admission.tulane.edu | Tulane Admission: Tuition & Fees [ http://ur1.ca/o4ip9 ] | Oct 21 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | > Tulane was cheaper when I went there but soon cost more than Harvard. People | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > without family backing walked away with a debt that cost more than the | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > average house at the time. | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > These costs are from a combination of factors that Chomsky explains well. In | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > the wake of Vietnam war protests, rich and powerful people decided that there | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > was too much education and wealth in the world. Board members were generally | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > business people who agreed that education should be limited and restricted. | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > An expensive class of administrators were hired to take control of otherwise | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > free wheeling universities and costs were pushed onto students. These two | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > things compounded each other through the 80s and 90s. Public universities | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > have been starved of funding, which made things even worse. The net result | Oct 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | > is reduced education and wealth for most people. | Oct 21 01:27 |
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| r_schestowitz | “A new release of Kubuntu is available”. Press “Upgrade”, enter password, then nothing happens (tried 5 times). Basic bug, losing confidence | Oct 22 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6732733 | Oct 22 21:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Canonical Revives the Ubuntu Developer Summit Event, Calls It UbuCon Summit http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-revives-the-ubuntu-developer-summit-event-calls-it-ubucon-summit-495034.shtml | Oct 22 21:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Canonical Revives the Ubuntu Developer Summit Event, Calls It UbuCon Summit - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/o5ggh ] | Oct 22 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | "Good! I feel like the Ubuntu community really needs a shot in the arm. Things have felt too quiet for too long." | Oct 22 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Except in softpedia | Oct 22 21:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728125 | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Please, notice that KDE Frameworks 5 is a set of libreries and I doubt your bugs are caused by them. Instead Plasma 5 has issues with particular hw config, and often the bugs are in drivers, in Qt or distro packaging. Please read this recent post by KWin developer: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-of-plasma-5/ | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | If Kubuntu fail the upgrade it’s a bug by distro, not a bug by KDE software. So please the next time give the fault to the right software ;-) | Oct 22 21:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.martin-graesslin.com | Some thoughts on the quality of Plasma 5 | Martin's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/o3whx ] | Oct 22 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:29 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to tell what to attribute the performance issues to, be it graphics, systemd, kubuntu integration, or kf5, but overall on this standard hardware 15.04 was a disaster. My upgrade should finish in 1.5 hours, so I will know if there's a pleasant surprise. I saw Grasslin's post as soon as he published it. | Oct 22 21:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6727810 | Oct 22 21:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sites that wrongly assume people abandoned RSS for #facebook and #twitter (utter BS) neglect to make RSS feeds. Self-fulfilling prophecy. | Oct 22 21:36 | |
| schestowitz | "RSS feeds research that makes intelligent comment . Oh yeah, that’s not what FB is for." | Oct 22 21:36 |
| schestowitz | FB actually has RSS feeds for activities/notifications, not for timelines I think | Oct 22 21:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6730491 | Oct 22 21:37 |
| schestowitz | "What can I say? I’m a speed reader." | Oct 22 21:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Something is hammering on #techrights hard this morning and it's not legit traffic, designed to just max up CPU/RAM | Oct 22 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728183 | Oct 22 21:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The open source system is now used by companies such as NASDAQ..." http://bravenewcoin.com/news/coinprism-releases-an-open-source-transaction-chain-2/ #bitcoin #coinprism | Oct 22 21:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> bravenewcoin.com | Coinprism releases an open source ‘transaction chain’ » Brave New Coin | Oct 22 21:38 | |
| schestowitz | "Why does the name sound like counter intelligence prism?" | Oct 22 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Created by a Microsofter. Microsoft the #1 PRISM company. | Oct 22 21:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6728059 | Oct 22 21:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Strong push for #openaccess tin #us #education (to combat monopolies) http://dailycollegian.com/2015/10/19/letter-open-source-textbooks-can-combat-rising-prices/ http://www.ischoolguide.com/articles/30194/20151019/affordable-college-textbook-act-provides-major-impact-future-america-s.htm http://www.care2.com/causes/a-change-to-textbooks-could-mark-a-shift-in-americas-future.html | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | "Wikibooks on radiation oncology are excellent. The sources are still paywalled, which is a crime, but cooperation makes much of the practical information available." | Oct 22 21:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> dailycollegian.com | Letter: Open source textbooks can combat rising prices : The Massachusetts Daily Collegian | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.ischoolguide.com | Affordable College Textbook Act Provides Major Impact on Future of America’s Higher Education : News : ISchoolGuide | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.care2.com | A Change to Textbooks Could Mark a Shift in America's Future | Care2 Causes | Oct 22 21:40 | |
| schestowitz | Are the paywalled things funded by public money? | Oct 22 21:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6732381 | Oct 22 21:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Organic milk tastes exactly the same as typical milk, packaging different and different standards. Is it not just more about marketing? | Oct 22 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | "Hopefully without all the drugs and hormones of commercial milk." | Oct 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Like bovine growth hormone? | Oct 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6730633 | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | There’s a Conversation Happening about having a conversation About whether or not there’s a possibility that, maybe, there are Inequities in the Criminal Justice System. | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | But that is progress. | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 22 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Progressiveness | Oct 22 21:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6726661 | Oct 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "Talk about persistence!! They just keep on trying to pass these things hoping we are stupid enough and short sighted enough to have forgotten the last time they tried it!' | Oct 22 21:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trade Groups Are Coming Out Against #CISA . We Need Individual Companies To Do The Same https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/tech-industry-trade-groups-are-coming-out-against-cisa-we-need-individual https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151020/14140232580/senate-pushes-forward-with-cisa-as-internet-industry-pulls-support.shtml | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eff.org | Tech Industry Trade Groups Are Coming Out Against CISA. We Need Individual Companies To Do The Same | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/o4jep ] | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Senate Pushes Forward With CISA As Internet Industry Pulls Its Support | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/o5gup ] | Oct 22 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | New strategy, new marketing, maybe now naming China as a cyber-threat, Russia in Ukraine, kiddie pr0n, terrorism, copyright woes... | Oct 22 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | [22:18] <amichair> schestowitz: can u access a terminal? | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:18] <schestowitz> yes | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:18] <schestowitz> all working ok | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:18] <schestowitz> but if I reboot, I don't know... | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:19] <amichair> maybe try "apt-get install -f" to fix any broken dependencies | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> the upgrader just froze at around 80%, 50 mins left (installing packages) | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> cheers, hang on while I try | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> wily uses dpkg | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:19] <schestowitz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:20] <amichair> schestowitz: the GUI is probably holding that lock | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:20] <schestowitz> "Distribution Upgrade" is what corresponds to wily in the windows-process sense I assume.. | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:21] <amichair> I personally wouldn't reboot with a half-installation, but try to complete the installation first | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:21] <schestowitz> process wily is mared as [R]unning with 3.3% of the CPU | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:21] <amichair> how long has it been frozen for? | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:21] <schestowitz> should I kill the windows and rerun the whole thing (would that even be possible)? | Oct 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:22] <schestowitz> *the window (Distribution Upgrade) | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:22] <schestowitz> it has been forzen for half an hour | Oct 22 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | [22:23] <amichair> schestowitz: maybe u can peek at the installer logs to see where it got, and maybe what it got stuck on | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:23] <schestowitz> I'd love to think or pretend to myself that it still installs packages in the background, but I doubt it, esp. with so little CPU usage | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:23] * schestowitz looking | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:24] <amichair> I think it was in /var/log/apt or something like that | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:24] <amichair> or /var/log/dist-upgrade | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <amichair> that would make more sense | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <schestowitz> I see a lot of grub stuff in system at around 21:44:35 | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:25] <schestowitz> will see disto-updade | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <amichair> there you have the logs by date, but also terminal log (I don't remember what's what, but worth checking out everything) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <schestowitz> No updates to files since it froze (see timestamp) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <schestowitz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 76262 Oct 22 21:48 main.log | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:26] <schestowitz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 417468 Oct 22 21:47 term.log | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:27] <amichair> anything suspicious at the end of the log? | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:27] <schestowitz> Yes | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:27] <schestowitz> I can see the error | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:28] <schestowitz> 2015-10-22 21:48:24,074 ERROR not handled exception in KDE frontend: | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:28] <schestowitz> Traceback (most recent call last): | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:28] <schestowitz> there is then lots of python stuff traced back | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <amichair> sounds like it confirms the gui indeed crashed | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> is there a way to run/complete/resume the upgrade from CLI? | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> last line in logs (in case it helps kubuntu devs): | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> File "/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-z170xzyt/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py", line 339, in conffile | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> self.confDialogue.show_difference_button.clicked.connect(self.showConffile()) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> TypeError: argument 1 has unexpected type 'NoneType' | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> 2015-10-22 21:48:24,083 DEBUG running apport_crash() | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> 2015-10-22 21:48:29,872 DEBUG enabling apt cron job | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <amichair> schestowitz: I'm no expert, but I think if it was already in the middle of upgrading packages that the apt-get install -f should continue the job | Oct 22 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | [22:30] <schestowitz> should I close the windows, force-kill the job by deleting the lock or whatever and then try to resume? | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <schestowitz> ubottu: thanks, will do | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:30] <ubottu> schestowitz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | Oct 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <marktaff> schestowitz: I had it lock up durin 15.10 do-release-upgrade as well. I rebooted, incanted 'dpgk configure -a' (someone verify that command pls) And it finished fine, excpet in my case I had major issues as I had to install the new nvidia 352 driver to get kde to work at all. HTH | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:31] <amichair> that's what I would do, but if you're in no hurry, perhaps you should wait for someone with a bit more experience to join here | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <schestowitz> maybe I'll wait, I really appreciate your help, amichair, and I am happy to see I'm not alone with such an issue | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <amichair> no problem. I haven't upgraded yet, but this sort of thing has happened to me in more upgrades in the past than I'd care to remember | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <schestowitz> the upgrade resolved a HUGE issue I had in kubuntu 15.04 and suffered from for 6 months (performance issue with plasmashell and kwin | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:33] <KNRO_> is there Kubuntu-backports for 15.10 now? | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:34] <amichair> looking at the man page, it looks like dpkg configure -a only re-does the configuration part, not the unpacking | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:34] <amichair> the apt-get install -f should do both I think | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <schestowitz> I can't even kill the windows gracefully, maybe it wants root or -9 | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <KNRO_> oh sweet, looks like 15.10 is use KDE Frameworks 5.15 | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:38] <schestowitz> amichair: I killed it as root, now I use sudo dpkg --configure -a and it seemingly resumes where it left off, in the CLI. I hope the cleanup stage of "wily" (upgrader) isn't imperative to getting it to work, maybe also some configuration like grub and whatnot... | Oct 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | [22:39] <amichair> schestowitz: I'm not sure if it does more than apt-get autoremove/clean or such | Oct 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:39] <amichair> also try the apt-get thing afterwards just in case... it can't hurt | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <amichair> (if there are no broken dependencies it won't do anything) | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <marktaff> I followed the dpkg command with am apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. In my case, the command said nothing to be done, and the base system seemed fine via ssh, but kde was totally useless for me until I added in the nvidia ppa and installed the 352 driver. | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:41] <amichair> marktaff: sounds like you finished the unpacking stage at least... schestowitz crashed in the middle of that | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:42] <marktaff> amichair: it's been a long frustrating day, but I seem to recall it locking up about 80% of the way through unpacking. I could be wrong though. :-) | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> that's what happened to me | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> about 80% | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> while going through the already-downloaded packages | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <amichair> marktaff, schestowitz: please do report the bug with the stacktrace... so it will be fixed before I try to upgrade :-) | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <marktaff> yeah, the downloading only took me about 4 minutes (big pipe). | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:44] <marktaff> amichair: lol, the system was too hosed at that point for a trace. | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <amichair> marktaff: maybe you'll find it in the logs, where schestowitz found it | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <amichair> in /var/log/dist-upgrade | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <marktaff> lemme check | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> roy@ted:/var/log/dist-upgrade$ tail -n 200 main.log | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:47] <schestowitz> see what broke it | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:47] <schestowitz> maybe it's the same for both of us | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> apt-get now stopped at the same package that got it stopped when the gui was running "Setting up libsane-common (1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2) ..." | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> and it asks a question, maybe the GUI could not handle a dialogue | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:48] <amichair> schestowitz: I actually had that theory, but kept it to myself :-) | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> when the windows froce is saud lib-sane | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <amichair> it's supposed to handle some dialogs, but maybe something there wasn't standard | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> I assume the scanning crap, with some dll in there | Oct 22 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> Configuration file '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf' | Oct 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> quite an irregular question after that | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> so maybe we found a likely culprit here | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <amichair> the diff dialog? | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> Y or I : install the package maintainer's version | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> N or O : keep your currently-installed version | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> D : show the differences between the versions | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> Z : start a shell to examine the situation | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> So... a bit irregular, I guess | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <amichair> yeah, that's actually standard I think | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> maybe the python front end thing couldn't render that as a window, at least that's my wild guess | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <amichair> when it an't decide if it should overwrite your custom configuration files with the (newer) default ones | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:52] <amichair> the gui is supposed to handle that (it did in previous upgrades) | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <amichair> but obviously there's a bug... maybe some character changed and threw the whole thing off | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:53] <amichair> I wonder if marktaff hit the same bug with the same package | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:55] <schestowitz> let's wait for input, just tweeted a gentle warning about this because it seems as though I'm not the only one encountering this | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:56] <Yato> So, I have a problem. Display scaling isn't working properly for me. | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <Yato> 1) if it isn't a round number, it appears like it just ignores it | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <Yato> 2) it won't apply to window decorations | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <marktaff> I haven't found any errors in the logs yet. | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <Yato> any tips? | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:57] <schestowitz> marktaff: what's the last line in that log file? | Oct 22 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | [22:58] <schestowitz> tail -n 5 /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <arist0v> hello, i have an issue with my kubuntu, my Xorg process have a massive memory usage and i can'T find why and how to stop it! | Oct 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <schestowitz> arist0v: I had this issue in kubuntu 15.04 | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <schestowitz> which one are you on? | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <amichair> well since he continued the update later, maybe it's not the last line anymore, or not in that file but in the dated archived logs | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <arist0v> schestowitz, LTS | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <schestowitz> 14.04 then | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <schestowitz> sounds like it's potentially a graphics driver issue | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <arist0v> i have read somewhere to disable kde-plasma i tried it but didn'T work | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:59] <amichair> schestowitz: I'll be back a bit later - good luck! (and don't forget to report the bug :-) ) | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:00] <schestowitz> yeah, if I can get stronger confirmation that it's the dialogue thing that crashed the upgrader and at which point | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:01] <schestowitz> will run 'apt-get install -f' later | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | [23:01] <amichair> schestowitz: if it says there's nothing left to do, you should be good to go | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:01] <schestowitz> dbus-daemon has been upgraded from a version with incompatible configuration. | Oct 22 23:07 |
| schestowitz | [23:01] <schestowitz> New configuration will be loaded after the next reboot. | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | [23:06] <marktaff> I have 2 files, one set was archived into a folder w/today's date--that one ends in "2015-10-22 10:31:26,296 DEBUG enabling apt cron job" | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | [23:06] <schestowitz> reboot, fingers crossed | Oct 22 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6738801 | Oct 24 13:08 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NSA also is planning to adopt the shared desktop environment led by the Defense Intelligence Agency" http://federalnewsradio.com/technology/2015/10/nsas-move-cloud-includes-something-borrowed-something-new/ military branch | Oct 24 13:08 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> federalnewsradio.com | NSA’s move to the cloud includes something borrowed, something new - FederalNewsRadio.com | Oct 24 13:08 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235062/Blonde-Danish-teenager-15-murdered-mother-kitchen-knife-watching-ISIS-videos-beheading-British-hostages-online.html | Oct 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dailymail.co.uk | Lisa Borch murdered her mother after watching ISIS beheading videos | Daily Mail Online | Oct 24 15:13 | |
| schestowitz | Girl kills mom (happens), they find a way to associate that with beheading and ISIS. I bet you a bundle Daily Fail distorted the real story, but I'm not too familiar with it. And the headline, ew... | Oct 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | > "To post a comment, log into your chosen social network..." | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece | Oct 24 15:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.dallasnews.com | Ahmed Mohamed swept up, 'hoax bomb' charges swept away as Irving teen's story floods social media | Dallas Morning News | Oct 24 15:14 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > trackers on top of anti-electronics, anti-hardware hack hysteria | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Ah, give us your real ID to comment. Hate those... | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-13 | Oct 24 15:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.crowdsupply.com | Librem 13: A Laptop That Respects Your Rights | Crowd Supply | Oct 24 15:14 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | > (Flash on the page?) | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | > 101% funded at the moment | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | They're sending us a review unit soon... | Oct 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/16/they-thought-it-was-a-bomb-ahmed-mohamed-texas-9th-grader-arrested-after-bringing-a-home-built-clock-to-school/ | Oct 24 15:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.washingtonpost.com | ‘They thought it was a bomb': 9th-grader arrested after bringing a home-built clock to school - The Washington Post | Oct 24 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/657920046862348288 | Oct 24 15:17 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz #lessig on @KimDotcom https://t.co/CXozlYJjcp "The position of the United States is extreme and wrong. " | Oct 24 15:17 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> lessig.tumblr.com | Kim Dotcom | LESSIG Blog, v2 | Oct 24 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/657920561721573377 | Oct 24 15:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Watch what #facebook gets a patent on https://t.co/l1t1da2TM7 self-explanatory. Facebook is a virus. Inoculate now. | Oct 24 15:18 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.google.com | Patent US20150124107 - Associating cameras with users and objects in a social networking system - Google Patents | Oct 24 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/purpleohms/status/657926084411944960 | Oct 24 15:28 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@purpleohms: @schestowitz living wage foundation figure higher than Gideon's new minimum wage, this is a good move, better for the staff. | Oct 24 15:28 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-appoints-general-counsel-brad-smith-as-president/ | Oct 24 15:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.seattletimes.com | Microsoft appoints general counsel Brad Smith as president | The Seattle Times | Oct 24 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > Sent a similar link the other day already. When they promote a lawyer | Oct 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > to the top they are no longer even pretending to be a tech company. | Oct 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HildaPalmer/status/657927990706348033 | Oct 24 15:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HildaPalmer: @schestowitz @glynmoody ISDS lite #NoTTIP | Oct 24 15:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Faaz71/status/657928551317000192 | Oct 24 15:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Faaz71: ISDS by any other name, still spells coup d'etat. As TTIP does treason. https://t.co/jP9j6uoYQ6 | Oct 24 15:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: EU puts fresh coat of paint on ISDS, now re-branded as “Investment Court System” https://t.co/4lQwgzEt1w note - ISDS effectively renamed | Oct 24 15:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Anonylox/status/657937761509355520 | Oct 24 16:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Anonylox: @schestowitz @eee_eff American prisons are there for the pure purpose of turning a profit & nothing else. #privateprisons | Oct 24 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/657937126542168064 | Oct 24 16:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Google Taken to Court to Uncloak eBook Pirates https://t.co/kKbCHSc32f why you must never trust #blogspot for #anonymity | Oct 24 16:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> torrentfreak.com | Google Taken to Court to Uncloak eBook Pirates - TorrentFreak | Oct 24 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | > <no link> | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > The daily fail has had dozens of anti-Corbyn articles in the last day or | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > so? WTF? That's not a news source, it's a propaganda engine. | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > - | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.thenation.com/article/can-jeremy-corbyn-free-labour-from-the-dead-hand-of-tony-blair/ | Oct 24 16:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.thenation.com | Can Jeremy Corbyn Free Labour From the Dead Hand of Tony Blair? | The Nation | Oct 24 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | > http://news.softpedia.com/news/tutorial-for-microsoft-to-help-it-kill-linux-491638.shtml | Oct 24 16:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.softpedia.com | How to Kill Linux: A Tutorial for Microsoft - Softpedia | Oct 24 16:19 | |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | > step 2 : kdbus | Oct 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds will surrender sooner or later. Like he did with UEFI... | Oct 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | > https://twitter.com/JohnSmythe44/status/658015277767094273 | Oct 24 21:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JohnSmythe44: 90% killed accidentally! Indiscriminate assassination? https://t.co/ZfBCg2eHpK | Oct 24 21:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Snowden And #Ellsberg Hail Leak Of #Drone Documents From New #Whistleblower https://t.co/C6CtQCBi1r | Oct 24 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yawnbox/status/658015641652166656 | Oct 24 21:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@yawnbox: @schestowitz cc @jbrooks_ | Oct 24 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658025530348867584 | Oct 24 22:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Any of YOUR specific recommendations for @SenSanders ...? | Oct 24 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | better him than clinton or gop | Oct 24 22:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MishiChoudhary/status/658025702609043456 | Oct 24 22:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MishiChoudhary: Feel the Bern ! https://t.co/BS5KFbW8UG | Oct 24 22:30 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Bernie Sanders Is Very Worried About Your Data https://t.co/qOFbcH86W0 #privacy | Oct 24 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658027028382220288 | Oct 24 22:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz WoW! You make a sweeping statement: so-- Is it absolutely TRUE? Can we distinguish "smart phones" from other mobile phones? | Oct 24 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | Old phones were not considered 'smart'. Today all are... | Oct 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658029302781374464 | Oct 24 22:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz 3) Are you flatly contradicting the claims of DEFCOM that their Ap & servers in Monaco makes smart-phones private? | Oct 24 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | the phone can be taken over remotely, via the OS | Oct 24 22:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658029504758067200 | Oct 24 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz 4) Must be very expensive hosting servers in Monaco! (Do you think they'd let me stay there?) | Oct 24 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/658031567386845185 | Oct 24 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Messgorough: @schestowitz In fairness within the USA relying on "human intelligence" would result in another deficit.... | Oct 24 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658032948029976576 | Oct 24 22:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @SenSanders True, true... | Oct 24 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ActivistsNZ/status/658033409143341056 | Oct 24 22:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ActivistsNZ: @Tanewha @travellerev @smashdracs @HalloweenMike1 @PiratePartyNZ @techliberty @MandyHager @Colin_R_Gale @amplifyonly https://t.co/BQ86Umsyiu | Oct 24 22:37 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Google has been recording you. Here’s how to delete the files https://t.co/WGffGoacWb #google #privacy | Oct 24 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658033584293330944 | Oct 24 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz ...so my tiny Samsung "burn phone" is (dangerously) SMART ? Any alternatives? Or:"All mobile phones are vulnerable in this way" | Oct 24 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | What model is it? | Oct 24 22:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658033781350133760 | Oct 24 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: All & every kind of mobile phone in current use by public? https://t.co/wggwWPKLcc | Oct 24 22:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: @FrancisJeffrey7 the phone can be taken over remotely, via the OS | Oct 24 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | old ones tricker to takeover from the tower | Oct 24 22:38 |
| schestowitz | trickier | Oct 24 22:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658036819854929920 | Oct 24 22:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz sgh-a157v ud | Oct 24 22:50 | |
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