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msb_schestowitz: This entire "Twitch" procedure seems to be designed to make installing Linux as difficult and failure-prone as possible.  You said before that hackaday is anti-Linux.  Maybe it would be better not to mention "Twitch", or if you do, say it's anti-Linux and give the previous evidence for that.Nov 01 01:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/660670469951983620Nov 01 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz Cybercloud Security for the Information Superhighway :)Nov 01 01:27
schestowitzmsb_: agreedNov 01 01:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner A10 DRM Display Support Being WorkedNov 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 On https://t.co/CMS5mNHn2H (www.phoronix.com)Nov 01 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Allwinner A10 DRM Display Support Being Worked On - PhoronixNov 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Thoughts on the LG G Watch R Android smartwatchNov 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/spSQhopD7t (www.earth.li)Nov 01 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.earth.li | Thoughts on the LG G Watch R Android smartwatchNov 01 01:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frameworks keeps proving that KDE project wasNov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines                 right https://t.co/21JShJvcOGNov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.heliocastro.info)Nov 01 01:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.heliocastro.info | Frameworks keeps proving that KDE project was right | Helio Castro Personal SpaceNov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An Introduction to Uncomplicated Firewall (UFW)Nov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/exa7wsQqTj (www.linux.com)Nov 01 01:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | An Introduction to Uncomplicated Firewall (UFW) | Linux.comNov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Are The Open-Source Graphics Drivers GoodNov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Enough For Steam Linux Gaming?Nov 01 01:34
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/NJxKtnHxtZ (www.phoronix.com)Nov 01 01:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Are The Open-Source Graphics Drivers Good Enough For Steam Linux Gaming? - PhoronixNov 01 01:34
schestowitz"probly"Nov 01 01:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6764831Nov 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa still above and beyond the law http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/29/nsa-phone-surveillance-usa-freedom-act-transition http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/29/nsa_one_more_month_illegal_spying/ http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/29/us-usa-security-nsa-idUKKCN0SN1VI20151029 http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-us-wont-halt-nsa-phone-spying-program-ahead-of-ban-2015-10?r=US&IR=TNov 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | US court refuses to stop NSA phone surveillance during 180-day 'transition' | US news | The GuardianNov 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | NSA can keep illegally spying on Americans into November • The RegisterNov 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.reuters.com | U.S. court will not halt NSA phone spy program before ban | ReutersNov 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | US court won't speed up the end of NSA phone spying - Business InsiderNov 01 01:35
schestowitz"explain, or link svp"Nov 01 01:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6766709Nov 01 01:35
schestowitzDidn't see an article, but they did this to my wife last night...Nov 01 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google is now forcing (hostage situation/ransom) to consent to new #privacy violating policy or be denied access to #chromeOS i.e. one's PCNov 01 01:36
msb_schestowitz: cubexyz: Can google shut down chromebooks/boxes remotely against the owner's wishes?  Nov 01 01:40
*TweetTuxMachines @Veekz_ favourited 'Are The Open-Source Graphics Drivers Good Enough For...'Nov 01 01:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet the man behind CarPlay and Android Auto atNov 01 01:42
TweetTuxMachines                 GM  https://t.co/qmSbZt8I4G (www.theverge.com)Nov 01 01:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Meet the man behind CarPlay and Android Auto at GM | The VergeNov 01 01:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MPV 0.12.0 Video Player Changes the DefaultNov 01 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Format for youtube-dl, Supports WaylandNov 01 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9yVaBnQGRR (news.softpedia.com)Nov 01 01:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MPV 0.12.0 Video Player Changes the Default Format for youtube-dl, Supports Wayland - SoftpediaNov 01 01:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CPU/GPU Usage Between NVIDIA & AMD LinuxNov 01 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 DriversNov 01 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/D3vYr4LZca (www.phoronix.com)Nov 01 01:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | CPU/GPU Usage Between NVIDIA & AMD Linux Drivers - PhoronixNov 01 01:47
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MPV 0.12.0 Video Player Changes the Default Format...'Nov 01 01:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 Reaches Gold, Launches on November 3Nov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/HcP8dfCjSC (linux.softpedia.com)Nov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 #f23Nov 01 01:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Fedora 23 Reaches Gold, Launches on November 3 - SoftpediaNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Importance of Open Source in RootNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/U226gyDF7UNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.xda-developers.com)Nov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4Y0ovS2wz6 (www.androidpolice.com)Nov 01 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | The Importance of Open Source in Root - XDA ForumsNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vXKiKbBKVRNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Nov 01 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Chainfire Experiment Achieves Android Root Without Touching The /System PartitionNov 01 01:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Chainfire cooks up "systemless" Marshmallow rootNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD Stoney APU Support Is Going Into The LinuxNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4 Kernel https://t.co/0pspvX1ndLNov 01 01:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Stoney APU Support Is Going Into The Linux 4.4 Kernel - PhoronixNov 01 01:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google needs to change 2 major things in itsNov 01 01:55
TweetTuxMachines                 radical reimagining of AndroidNov 01 01:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/otLZcS4OYD (www.techinsider.io)Nov 01 01:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techinsider.io | Google Android apps and security on Chromebook - Tech InsiderNov 01 01:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iOS 9 vs. Android 6 – Which Operating SystemNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Rules? https://t.co/b9Eu068c6cNov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.valuewalk.com | iOS 9 vs. Android 6 - Which Operating System Rules?Nov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My ARM grab bag device listNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WaojAKIA0S (nullr0ute.com)  arm onNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 the rise. With Linux....Nov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nullr0ute.com | My ARM grab bag device list | nullr0ute's blogNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear on iPhone Review: 2 Months LaterNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5ixoGumBoU (www.gottabemobile.com)Nov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android Wear on iPhone Review: 2 Months LaterNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Android for Work Update Aims to MakeNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Mobile Device Set-Up EasyNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5rqidr6fU7 (www.eweek.com)Nov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Google Android for Work Update Aims to Make Mobile Device Set-Up EasyNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Puzzle Platformer 'Adventures Of Shuggy'Nov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Released For Linux On SteamNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AkVIFnvcie (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Puzzle Platformer 'Adventures Of Shuggy' Released For Linux On Steam | GamingOnLinuxNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Is Working On Linux Encryption For AVX2Nov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 CPUs, Up To 5.8x ThroughputNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VfS864XGWl (www.phoronix.com)Nov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Is Working On Faster Linux Encryption For AVX2 CPUs, Up To 5.8x Throughput - PhoronixNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.3 Is Near With Its Polished IntelNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Skylake Support & More https://t.co/ObVvbjZxKlNov 01 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Nov 01 01:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.3 Is Near With Its Polished Intel Skylake Support & More - PhoronixNov 01 01:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux 4.3 Is Near With Its Polished Intel...'Nov 01 02:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Vendetta Online 1.8.357-358 update is hereNov 01 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 for...  Android, GNU/Linux"Nov 01 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VzBoEGynYR (news.softpedia.com)Nov 01 02:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online 3D Space Combat Game Gets Halloween Release with Many Android Fixes - SoftpediaNov 01 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Size Of The Different Open-Source LinuxNov 01 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 DRM/Mesa Graphics DriversNov 01 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YnpyzZM5pk (www.phoronix.com)Nov 01 02:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Size Of The Different Open-Source Linux DRM/Mesa Graphics Drivers - PhoronixNov 01 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Want To Be A Fisherman? #FishingPlanet IsNov 01 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Planning A Linux ReleaseNov 01 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/B6nKvtKdk4 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 01 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Want To Be A Fisherman? Fishing Planet Is Planning A Linux Release | GamingOnLinuxNov 01 02:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GENIVI compliant Linux automotive stack doesNov 01 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 ADAS https://t.co/lU9ApTEPh9 (linuxgizmos.com)Nov 01 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | GENIVI compliant Linux automotive stack does ADAS ·  LinuxGizmos.comNov 01 02:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 packages now liveNov 01 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mTFQcQKSL7 (negativo17.org)Nov 01 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-negativo17.org | Fedora 23 packages now live | negativo17Nov 01 02:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 31/10/2015: Twitch's Arch LinuxNov 01 02:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Challenge, GNOME 3.19.1 https://t.co/RXFkOEWaWLNov 01 02:44
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (techrights.org)Nov 01 02:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/10/2015: Twitch’s Arch Linux Challenge, GNOME 3.19.1 | TechrightsNov 01 02:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GENIVI compliant Linux automotive stack doesNov 01 02:44
TweetTuxMachines                 ADAS https://t.co/G918a6Fn2dNov 01 02:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GENIVI compliant Linux automotive stack does ADAS | Tux MachinesNov 01 02:44
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msb_Yay!  My Babylon 5 DVDs (bought many years ago) work great.  (At least the first one does.)  I have complete control using mplayer.Nov 01 06:55
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msb_A hundred hours of escape from reality!Nov 01 06:56
msb_ISIL says they shot down that Russian airliner, but shoulder-launched SAMs can't reach that high.  So their claim is being denied.  But maybe the Saudis or Turks gave them a truck-mounted one that can.Nov 01 07:00
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cubexyzbusybox removes systemd supportNov 01 09:26
cubexyzfinally some sanityNov 01 09:27
msb_Is busybox used in desktop distros?Nov 01 09:28
cubexyzall the really compact distros use itNov 01 09:29
XRevan86busybox removes socket activation from built-in syslogd.Nov 01 09:29
cubexyzBL3, tinycore, probably other ones Nov 01 09:30
msb_So Raspberry Pi's and such are safe.Nov 01 09:31
XRevan86It'll probably still won't break though.Nov 01 09:32
msb_Well, anyhow, it's good that _somebody_ has rejected systemd.Nov 01 09:32
XRevan86Practically, nothing changed at all.Nov 01 09:32
cubexyzttylinux is another oneNov 01 09:32
msb_A guy in the #debianfork channel told me that most people there think (as I do) that the purpose of systemd is to sneak in a backdoor to kill Linux computers.Nov 01 09:35
msb_By the US govt.Nov 01 09:36
cubexyzwell when Theo Ts'o has trouble understanding policykit and he's an MIT grad in his 40's and a computer expert...Nov 01 09:39
msb_It's the only reason anyone would push this insane complexity onto the Linux world:  http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/Nov 01 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.darknedgy.net | Structural and semantic deficiencies in the systemd architecture for real-world service management, a technical treatiseNov 01 09:40
cubexyzthere's been some pretty strange statements made about DebianNov 01 09:42
cubexyzJulian Assange said Debian is owned by the NSANov 01 09:42
cubexyznow, I have no idea if that's true or notNov 01 09:42
cubexyzprobably not :)Nov 01 09:43
cubexyzthe internet and all, you can't trust every statement Nov 01 09:43
cubexyzis it possible that Linux is being attacked? definitelyNov 01 09:44
cubexyzNSA asked Linus to put backdoors in LinuxNov 01 09:45
msb_https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/09/179253/debian-dropping-linux-standard-baseNov 01 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Debian dropping the Linux Standard Base [LWN.net]Nov 01 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Debian Dropping Linux Standard Base - SlashdotNov 01 09:49
msb_Fucking up Linux even worse, again for no reason.Nov 01 09:50
cubexyzwell that's why the fork existsNov 01 09:50
msb_But Devuan depends mostly  on the Debian repos.  So this may be an effort to make it harder for Devuan to create a good Linux.Nov 01 09:52
cubexyzanyone can make their own distroNov 01 09:52
cubexyzI suspect we will continue to see thatNov 01 09:52
msb_See diagram at the bottom of the page:  https://www.devuan.org/Nov 01 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devuan.org | Devuan GNU/Linux - Debian without systemd.Nov 01 09:53
msb_Making a Linux distro requires a great deal of work if it   incorporates up-to-date software.  "Anyone" can _not_ do it.Nov 01 09:54
XRevan86How many LSB-compliant distros is there left?Nov 01 09:54
XRevan86https://linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsbNov 01 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxbase.org | LSB Certification System - Product DirectoryNov 01 09:56
cubexyzmsb_, anyone can take an old distro and upgrade parts as necessaryNov 01 09:56
cubexyzthey don't have to start from stratchNov 01 09:57
XRevan86List of LSB-compliant distributions: RHEL, Oracle Linux and some old stuff.Nov 01 09:57
cubexyzjust upgrade the stuff you needNov 01 09:57
msb_cubexyz: To make a Linux distro suitable for most people that means building hundreds of apps and system programs and their libraries and testing them all.  Because most people don't want to build stuff or don't know how.Nov 01 10:00
msb_That's why for a useful up-to-date Linux, Devuan is starting from up-to-date Debian.Nov 01 10:01
msb_The vast majority of people want an OS that just works.Nov 01 10:02
cubexyzpeople can't just do nothing and hope things turn out wellNov 01 10:03
msb_And includes all modern apps and the latest versions of system stuff like Python and Ruby.Nov 01 10:03
cubexyzit takes actionNov 01 10:03
XRevan86cubexyz: And GNU/Linux is understaffed.Nov 01 10:03
cubexyzsomeone has to do the workNov 01 10:03
XRevan86and not to do the work nobody needsNov 01 10:03
msb_cubexyz: You keep that most people have your abilities.  They don't.Nov 01 10:03
XRevan86Like… LSB support.Nov 01 10:04
XRevan86With time is keeps getting less and less important.Nov 01 10:04
msb_Yes, as LInux gets more and more messed up until it becomes useless crap.  And that's what the world rulers -- the US, EU, UK, Israel -- want.Nov 01 10:05
msb_Because Linux enables the people of the world to expose and talk about the evil that the rulers are doing, and to organize against it.Nov 01 10:06
cubexyzjust stockpile the distros you like for future useNov 01 10:08
XRevan86msb_: LSB is good for proprietary of enterprise programs but…Nov 01 10:09
XRevan86they like to not care about LSB and make programs Ubuntu-compliant or RHEL-compliant.Nov 01 10:09
msb_LSB adherence makes it much easier to write and maintain apps, because they can rely on consistent APIs and placement of files across various distros.Nov 01 10:09
XRevan86msb_: And in FOSS programs this is not actually important.Nov 01 10:10
XRevan86> and placement of files across various distrosNov 01 10:10
XRevan86FHSNov 01 10:10
msb_cubexyz: Not practical for most people.Nov 01 10:10
msb_FHS is part of LSB.Nov 01 10:11
XRevan86LSB includes FHSNov 01 10:11
XRevan86msb_: Debian didn't drop FHS if that's what you mean.Nov 01 10:11
XRevan86nearly all distros honour FHS while caring not about LSBNov 01 10:12
msb_Who knows?  But it's dropping other parts of LSB.Nov 01 10:12
msb_This is another sabotage attack on Linux.Nov 01 10:12
XRevan86msb_: Show me a distro that does care about LSB.Nov 01 10:12
msb_https://software.opensuse.org/package/lsbNov 01 10:16
cubexyzSUSE Linux is LSB 4.1 certifiedNov 01 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-software.opensuse.org | software.opensuse.org:Nov 01 10:16
XRevan86cubexyz: SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 isNov 01 10:16
XRevan86SUSE Linux Enterprise 12 isn'tNov 01 10:16
XRevan86openSUSE isn'tNov 01 10:16
msb_Necessary files and dependencies for the Linux Standard Base (LSB) Core.Nov 01 10:17
XRevan86$ lsb_releaseNov 01 10:17
XRevan86LSB Version:n/aNov 01 10:17
XRevan86Description:openSUSE Tumbleweed (20151022) (x86_64)Nov 01 10:17
cubexyzseems that a lot of the Asian Linux distros are LSB certifiedNov 01 10:19
msb_XRevan86: Do you want Linux to be churned and fucked up?  You like systemd despite its horrendous internal complexity that makes it impossible to troubleshoot.Nov 01 10:20
XRevan86msb_: I'm just saying, it hasn't start with Debian.Nov 01 10:20
XRevan86People use distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Arch Linux, openSUSE, Fedora, Mageia…Nov 01 10:21
XRevan86and only Debian has been LSB compliant in this listNov 01 10:22
msb_Yes, and with one network packet the govt can kill them all.Nov 01 10:22
XRevan86Of course, nobody bothers about making programs according to LSB, people make them so they will work on most GNU/Linux distros instead.Nov 01 10:22
XRevan86That's how it turned out.Nov 01 10:23
XRevan86No FSF approved distro supports LSB, by the way.Nov 01 10:24
msb_Every sabotage attack -- systemd, non-adherence to LSB, KDE4/5 -- helps change Linux from a simple, friendly, universal operating system to a fucked-up mess that will end up no better than Windows.Nov 01 10:25
XRevan86except for gNewSense, I guessNov 01 10:25
XRevan86because Debian 7 basedNov 01 10:25
msb_XRevan86: And as long as you think systemd is ok, you will never understand that.Nov 01 10:27
XRevan86msb_: ugh, I clearly see who sabotaged LSBNov 01 10:27
XRevan86msb_: You know who?Nov 01 10:27
XRevan86GNU/Linux developers and GNU/Linux users, that's who.Nov 01 10:28
XRevan86all of themNov 01 10:28
XRevan86all of usNov 01 10:28
msb_Bullshit.  Users don't influence anything.Nov 01 10:28
XRevan86msb_: Users never cared about LSB compliance of their distros.Nov 01 10:29
XRevan86msb_: When I told you about Void Linux, have you asked me whether it is LSB compliant?Nov 01 10:29
XRevan86(because it is not, obviously)Nov 01 10:29
msb_They never even heard of it.  It's up to the distro devs/admins to adhere to standards.Nov 01 10:29
XRevan86msb_: Most of them did.Nov 01 10:29
XRevan86msb_: Ask some Gentoo users, what they think about that Gentoo doesn't support LSB.Nov 01 10:30
msb_XRevan86: What is your point?  Are you saying that adherence to good software engineering principles and standards like LSB aren't important?  That seems to be what you're saying, and you are dead wrong.Nov 01 10:31
XRevan86msb_: What I'm saying is that LSB for years of its existence, never achieved a goal it supposed to.Nov 01 10:33
msb_It's up to the distro devs/admins to adhere to standards and Unix principles.  Because if they don't, and Linux effectively dies, then the Fascists may win and the human race will die as well.Nov 01 10:34
cubexyzit's really under the control of the distro maintainersNov 01 10:34
cubexyzsomeone has to act as the leader and say "This is the direction we are going in"Nov 01 10:35
msb_Yes, and nobody knows why they've all adopted systemd.Nov 01 10:35
msb_I think it's bribery and threats carefully tailored to influential people in each distro.Nov 01 10:36
msb_There are many many examples of bribery in industry that never gets exposed unless some whistleblower does it or there's an investigation with subpoena power.Nov 01 10:37
msb_The CIA and other govt agencies are masters of this sort of corruption.Nov 01 10:38
msb_They did it all through the 20th century.Nov 01 10:39
cubexyzI think busybox has it's own simplified initNov 01 10:39
msb_To entire governments of nations.Nov 01 10:39
cubexyzthere's simplified X server as wellNov 01 10:44
cubexyzalthough I don't think anyone has touched the code in quite some timeNov 01 10:44
cubexyzwell everyone saw the NSA Ant Catalog, so some paranoia is justifiedNov 01 10:57
cubexyzhere's what I use currently:Nov 01 10:58
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/non-systemd-distros-i-use.txtNov 01 10:58
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cubexyzno government can erase all of thoseNov 01 10:59
cubexyzBasic Linux 3 uses busybox so init is built-inNov 01 10:59
cubexyzkeep watching distrowatch and stockpile the distrosNov 01 11:03
cubexyzuse what you like, discard what you don'tNov 01 11:04
cubexyzremember that the BSD's existNov 01 11:06
msb_We need a solution for everyone, not just for us experts.Nov 01 11:08
cubexyzchromeos is probably the easiestNov 01 11:09
cubexyzyou buy a chromebook, it's cheap, you got chromeos preloadedNov 01 11:09
cubexyzbetter than the alternative of getting windows 10 by farNov 01 11:09
msb_We heard earlier today that google will kill chromeos unless the user agrees to its new privacy standards.Nov 01 11:10
msb_If so, it's no better than systemd or windows.Nov 01 11:11
cubexyzthey might have a remote kill for stolen chromebooksNov 01 11:13
cubexyznot sure about thatNov 01 11:13
cubexyzyou do have a link about it?Nov 01 11:13
cubexyzthere's no anti-theft or Intel Vpro technology in the Intel Celeron 2955U, the CPU my chromebook usesNov 01 11:50
cubexyzother ones, maybe... I haven't checked them Nov 01 11:51
cubexyzno intel boot guard eitherNov 01 11:51
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msb_schestowitz mentioned it in a tweet, but had no ref.Nov 01 12:05
msb_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6766709  #google is now forcing (hostage situation/ransom) to consent to new #privacy violating policy or be denied access to #chromeOS i.e. one’s PC  -- Dr. Roy Schestowitz.    <schestowitz> Didn't see an article, but they did this to my wife last night... Nov 01 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google is now forcing (hostage situation/ransom) to consent to new #privacy violating policy or be denied access to #chromeOS i.e. one's PCNov 01 12:09
msb_quoted from about 10 hours ago, give or take for daylight saving time switchover.Nov 01 12:12
msb_Should have put quotes around all of that.Nov 01 12:15
msb_If they have a remote kill, it doesn't matter why they have it.Nov 01 12:17
msb_Evil!  Pure and simple, from the Eighth Dimension!Nov 01 12:18
msb_-- The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai (1984)   Superbly funny and clever sci-fi movie.  Highly recommended.Nov 01 12:20
msb_"We are not in the Eighth dimension, we are over New Jersey."Nov 01 12:26
amarsh04I've seen that movie at least twiceNov 01 13:00
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msb_cubexyz: If chromebooks/boxes already come with a known intrusion/kill mechanism that google, and certainly the government, can use, then they are the _last_ computers to recommend to people.  Unless you insist that they remove chromeos and install some kind of Linux, if that's possible.  But didn't I read somewhere that those machines automatically reinstall chromeos if they die?Nov 01 15:45
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cubexyzthere is a lock if your chromebook is deployed as enterprise or educationNov 01 15:51
cubexyzmine is neither... just plain regular chromeosNov 01 15:51
cubexyzlost enterprise/educational chromebooks can be locked remotely... after they are reported stolenNov 01 15:52
cubexyzone can KO the firmware and the OS if they wantNov 01 15:54
cubexyzif chromeos gets corrupted you can perform a factory resetNov 01 15:58
cubexyzone can build their own coreboot firmware tooNov 01 16:00
cubexyzanyone can git clone coreboot and check out the codeNov 01 16:05
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cubexyzwe did have BIOS source ages ago... but AMI, Phoenix, and others came into the picture and everything was closedNov 01 16:30
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msb_cubexyz: What determines whether a chromebook is enterprise/education or regular?  A difference in BIOS code?Nov 01 19:03
cubexyzthere's this:Nov 01 19:07
cubexyzhttps://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/1360534?hl=enNov 01 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.google.com | Enroll Chrome devices - Chrome for Work and Education HelpNov 01 19:07
cubexyzyou have to opt into itNov 01 19:09
msb_cubexyz: Will every Linux run on chromebook/box?Nov 01 19:39
cubexyzdoubtfulNov 01 19:39
cubexyzgiven enough effort yes, but it's optimized for debian and ubuntu via croutonNov 01 19:39
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cubexyzpharma spam alert on tuxmachines... this is a level 10 alert Nov 02 11:53
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cubexyzyou know, I remember the Brand Systems had bundling with MS-DOS but really I always bought whitebox PCs all the way back to 1986Nov 02 13:15
cubexyzthey just "preloaded" copies of stuff on the hard drive to get you startedNov 02 13:15
cubexyzit was IBM and Amstrad and Commodore that bundled on there PCsNov 02 13:16
cubexyzs/there/their/Nov 02 13:16
msb_cubexyz: " <cubexyz> pharma spam alert on tuxmachines... this is a level 10 alert " What???  Are the missiles flying?Nov 02 13:18
cubexyzno missilesNov 02 13:18
cubexyzjust pharma spamNov 02 13:19
cubexyztuxmachines needs to moderate moreNov 02 13:19
msb_Looks like it doesn't moderate at all.Nov 02 13:22
msb_But I think Level 10 Alert is reserved for an ELE.Nov 02 13:25
msb_Where Téa Leoni commits suicide in order to briefly reconcile with her estranged father.  That movie made a deep impact on me.  Yecch!Nov 02 13:36
msb_And (I'm just rambling here) the second season of her TV series Madame Secretary is all about how evil Russia is.  Scripts written by the US govt to negate Russia's success in fighting ISIL, which is supported by the US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel.Nov 02 13:40
msb_WiFi/AI Barbie Doll!  http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/hell-no-barbie-a-campaign-spreading-awareness-about-hello-barbie-a-new-doll-with-big-brother-ish-capabilities/Nov 02 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vigilantcitizen.com | "Hell No Barbie" Campaign Warns About "Hello Barbie", a New Doll With Big Brother-ish Capabilities - The Vigilant CitizenNov 02 13:46
cubexyzdid you know the NT4 kernel was all in C? there's no C++Nov 02 13:48
cubexyzusermod stuff seems mostly C++Nov 02 13:49
cubexyzusermodeNov 02 13:50
msb_Russians again?Nov 02 13:50
cubexyzcould be, this guy's first name was Igor :)Nov 02 13:51
msb_Not that anyone would want to compile and run Windows, but it would be interesting if MS stole any GPLed code and used it secretly.Nov 02 13:54
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cubexyzit's very bloatedNov 02 14:00
cubexyzM$ was clever, there is the MSDN Academic AllianceNov 02 14:05
cubexyzProfessors can see the source code of windows provided they sign an agreement that says  but any changes/additions they make become the property of MicrosoftNov 02 14:06
cubexyzs/but//Nov 02 14:07
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FreiheitExpert/status/660718187508449280    https://twitter.com/FreiheitExpert/status/660718285499990017  https://twitter.com/FreiheitExpert/status/660718345059102721Nov 02 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreiheitExpert: @schestowitz I cannot retweet this.Nov 02 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreiheitExpert: So I am wondering how this plays out for academic libraries.... https://t.co/9of8lQ7Gx3Nov 02 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Library of Congress issues exemptions to #DMCA anti-circumvention provisions but leaves users without full control https://t.co/hgYHQfweygNov 02 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreiheitExpert: @schestowitz Nevermind I can now...Nov 02 15:32
schestowitzGood, I was out of Town until tonight... hence could not replyNov 02 15:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/660818195859812353Nov 02 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz going to try Deepin. They don’t have a BitTorrent link so best to look for a mirror nearby. Default link is very slow.Nov 02 15:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/660823467869257728Nov 02 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Just about what I'd expect for a proprietary operating system designed to be inextricably linked to proprietary services.Nov 02 15:35
schestowitzYes, well, but what when the laptop user does not use it as Google intended (e.g. dual boot)?Nov 02 15:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RamiSilawi/status/660841530488418304Nov 02 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RamiSilawi: .@schestowitz Tried #Chromixium? OpenBox + Ubuntu LTS + Chrome(ium) launchers and app menu.Nov 02 15:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tonycalhoun00/status/660879213831061504Nov 02 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonycalhoun00: @schestowitz @jeremycline1975 some of it is just a grudge against a type of individualNov 02 15:36
schestowitzYes, with justification as afterthoughtNov 02 15:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/660916421778653186Nov 02 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz That awkward moment... https://t.co/do4E6hfRC0 #england #CivilRights #privacy #SurveillanceState https://t.co/AObMb6DVspNov 02 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sunnation.co.uk | Theresa May will refuse to allow judges to sign off spying warrants - Sun NationNov 02 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz That awkward moment... https://t.co/do4E6hfRC0 #england #CivilRights #privacy #SurveillanceState https://t.co/AObMb6DVspNov 02 15:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/660939655215513600Nov 02 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s snooper’s charter @schestowitz https://t.co/x6M7RF7QTjNov 02 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s snooper’s charter - cartoon | Comment is free | The GuardianNov 02 15:37
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schestowitzCame back after two days in #AltonTowers wondering if #gchq also intercepts all rides' photos, like it does Angry Bird etc. (collect it all)Nov 02 15:38
schestowitzhttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/01/martin-rowson-on-theresa-mays-snoopers-charter-cartoonNov 02 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s snooper’s charter - cartoon | Comment is free | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/o86gm ]Nov 02 15:40
schestowitzIt was a 1k key, it's too weak now, new one is 4kNov 02 15:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lohphat/status/661233091193602049Nov 02 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lohphat: @schestowitz @mattburgess1 Conservatives don't like others talking behind their back. They have power, they want all of yours too.Nov 02 15:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ProfPearce/status/661256489986686976Nov 02 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProfPearce: Useful? Preempetive strikes on #3dprinting #patenttrolls https://t.co/N0wrZrxge8 @killpatenttroll @EFF @schestowitz https://t.co/uuxOrrlQ1rNov 02 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.academia.edu | A Novel Approach to Obviousness: An Algorithm for Identifying Prior Art Concerning 3-D Printing Materials | Joshua Pearce - Academia.eduNov 02 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProfPearce: Useful? Preempetive strikes on #3dprinting #patenttrolls https://t.co/N0wrZrxge8 @killpatenttroll @EFF @schestowitz https://t.co/uuxOrrlQ1rNov 02 15:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jeremycline1975/status/661282476615147520Nov 02 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jeremycline1975: @schestowitz @tonycalhoun00 Absolutely right.Nov 02 15:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jeremycline1975/status/661283841198432256Nov 02 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jeremycline1975: @schestowitz @tonycalhoun00 And they've been smart enough to crowd-source the surveillance and "evidence" gathering.Nov 02 15:51
schestowitzExternalising the damageNov 02 15:51
schestowitz[06:40] <msb_> schestowitz: cubexyz: Can google shut down chromebooks/boxes remotely against the owner's wishes?  Nov 02 15:52
schestowitzCan brick itNov 02 15:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DJI uses Linux for drones Nov 02 16:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/seerb7nzcO (techcrunch.com)Nov 02 16:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | This hardware development platform can fly -- literally | PCWorldNov 02 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | DJI wants you to build sentient drones with its tiny computerNov 02 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toxcy.com | DJI Manifold computer is meant to control a drone | ToxcyNov 02 16:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside Canonical: the creators of Ubuntu haveNov 02 16:49
TweetTuxMachines                 big plans for the futureNov 02 16:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keeping Linux Clean https://t.co/x7IY0Mvvg0Nov 02 16:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Keeping Linux Clean | Tux MachinesNov 02 16:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New DJI drone computer runs Ubuntu on Tegra,Nov 02 16:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside Canonical: the creators of Ubuntu haveNov 02 16:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kodi 16.0 to Ship with Multi-Touch Support forNov 02 17:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC andNov 02 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Firefox Compliance https://t.co/XYhgjj4hOvNov 02 17:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Trying out Linux can be simpleNov 02 17:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eastbourneherald.co.uk | Trying out Linux can be simple - Eastbourne HeraldNov 02 17:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds launches Linux kernel 4.3Nov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6Fikveo3WONov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerweekly.com) distraction:Nov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TBjVy4AC9H (gizmodo.com)Nov 02 17:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside BlackBerry's last-ditch plan to win youNov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 back with Android https://t.co/3oHP6jhoFsNov 02 17:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Inside BlackBerry's last-ditch plan to win you back with Android - CNETNov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC andNov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Firefox Compliance https://t.co/ly4gEzVC9YNov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 02 17:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC and Firefox Compliance - SoftpediaNov 02 17:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 6.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 4.1,Nov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Drops 32-bit Builds https://t.co/dw3P0FlWYYNov 02 17:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 15.09 (Bellatrix) Now Has Working AMDNov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Catalyst Drivers for Linux Kernel 4.2Nov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VTtKCsxu52 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o876bNov 02 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.09 (Bellatrix) Now Has Working AMD Catalyst Drivers for Linux Kernel 4.2 - SoftpediaNov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Facebook forces some workers to switch fromNov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 iPhone to Android to reflect majority of usersNov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 & new markets https://t.co/tmF4AdvUbKNov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (appleinsider.com)Nov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o876cNov 02 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appleinsider.com | Facebook forces some workers to switch from iPhone to Android to reflect majority of users & new marketsNov 02 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Daniel Craig resisted Android phone placementNov 02 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 in "Spectre" because "James Bond only uses theNov 02 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 best" https://t.co/cTcIMPsTokNov 02 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (appleinsider.com)Nov 02 17:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8773Nov 02 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appleinsider.com | Daniel Craig resisted Android phone placement in "Spectre" because "James Bond only uses the best"Nov 02 17:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android smartphones for work and play:Nov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 November 2015 edition https://t.co/9q2aFGF0A5Nov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Nov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8774Nov 02 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android smartphones for work and play: November 2015 edition | ZDNetNov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     fedora Release Dates: It’s On-Time When It’sNov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Ready https://t.co/W1WAQmJnGQ (fossforce.com)Nov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8775Nov 02 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Release Dates: It's On-Time When It's Ready | FOSS ForceNov 02 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Do NOT upgrade FreeIPA servers to FedoraNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 23 yet https://t.co/5yF7QnAU5TNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.happyassassin.net)Nov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87aoNov 02 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.happyassassin.net/2015/11/01/psa-do-not-upgrade-freeipa-servers-to-fedora-23-yet/ )Nov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23: A walk through my favorite LinuxNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 installer - Anaconda https://t.co/1sIR6bxNMGNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Nov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87apNov 02 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Fedora 23: A walk through my favorite Linux installer - Anaconda | ZDNetNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Join The Power Linux EvolutionNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oQdlRpSXWb (www.itjungle.com)Nov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87aqNov 02 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | The Four Hundred--How To Join The Power Linux EvolutionNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where to find high-quality, Linux-compatibleNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 music https://t.co/J8kUi3yuVl (opensource.com)Nov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87arNov 02 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Linux-compatible places to get high-quality digital music | Opensource.comNov 02 18:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     European Parliament wants EU institutions toNov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines                 switch to open source https://t.co/3H84uQYLP2Nov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87atNov 02 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | European Parliament wants EU institutions to switch to open source | Tux MachinesNov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Join The Power Linux EvolutionNov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iBPsYjItSz (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87auNov 02 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Join The Power Linux Evolution | Tux MachinesNov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where to find high-quality, Linux-compatibleNov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines                 music https://t.co/CC72DO4yS5Nov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87avNov 02 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Where to find high-quality, Linux-compatible music | Tux MachinesNov 02 18:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How can you make a drone better? Install LinuxNov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 on it! https://t.co/LXwOZBP2M0Nov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87c4Nov 02 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How can you make a drone better? Install Linux on it! | Tux MachinesNov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6Nov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 released https://t.co/GGBHO9UGfoNov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87c6Nov 02 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6 released | Tux MachinesNov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best #android phones listNov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/C5Ka4Mj4Ew (www.geeksnack.com)Nov 02 18:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87c7Nov 02 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeksnack.com | Best Android phones of 2015 so far - GeekSnackNov 02 18:23
schestowitz"systemd people are not willing to play nice with the rest of the world. Therefore there is no reason for the rest of the world to cooperate with them."Nov 02 18:23
*TweetTuxMachines @pkoutoupis favourited 'Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/lgaURXqRzj'Nov 02 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.3-rc7 | Tux MachinesNov 02 18:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source R Code to Get New Hub with HelpNov 02 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 from the Linux FoundationNov 02 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IU1GBedXZd (thevarguy.com)Nov 02 18:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87e5Nov 02 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Open Source R Code to Get New Hub with Help from the Linux Foundation | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyNov 02 18:33
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XFaCE[10:59:47]<cubexyz> Basic Linux 3 uses busybox so init is built-inNov 02 19:21
XFaCEwhat about Alpine Linux?Nov 02 19:21
cubexyzhow can you be not here? :)Nov 02 19:22
cubexyzanyways BL3 uses a very compact system using an old 2.2 kernel and a smaller version of XNov 02 19:23
cubexyzany other distro that uses busybox should also have the built-in initNov 02 19:23
cubexyzoh wait a secNov 02 19:24
cubexyzlooks like alpine uses OpenRCNov 02 19:24
cubexyzstill, Alpine looks like a decent non-systemd distroNov 02 19:25
cubexyzAlpine does look interesting with musl libc, I will try it sometimeNov 02 19:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steam for Linux Usage Is on the Rise and GetsNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Closer to 1% https://t.co/GsNPYx7f2XNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886vNov 02 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Usage Is on the Rise and Gets Closer to 1% - SoftpediaNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Old, not obsolete: IBM takes Linux mainframesNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 back to the future https://t.co/piNa95hujfNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Nov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886wNov 02 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Old, not obsolete: IBM takes Linux mainframes back to the future • The RegisterNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Government picks Collabora for new Open SourceNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop suite https://t.co/XmgrVaWAUlNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886xNov 02 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Government picks Collabora for new Open Source desktop suite | Tux MachinesNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using Git and mailing lists time zones to findNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 out where developers liveNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zDSnRCnBWI (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886yNov 02 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using Git and mailing lists time zones to find out where developers live | Tux MachinesNov 02 20:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wikipedia and Deepak Chopra: Open-SourceNov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Character Assassination https://t.co/1nhhf20DNiNov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886zNov 02 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wikipedia and Deepak Chopra: Open-Source Character Assassination | Tux MachinesNov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exclusive: Tizen Smartphone Coming to 11Nov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 European Countries Including UK, France,Nov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Germany and Russia By Ash - ...Nov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hs1yMHwnb8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 20:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8870Nov 02 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exclusive: Tizen Smartphone Coming to 11 European Countries Including UK, France, Germany and Russia By Ash - Nov 2, 2015 | Tux MachinesNov 02 20:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Which Linux Distribution You Should UseNov 03 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Mohammad Forhad Iftekher 4 hours agoNov 03 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TkkeiWCJKx (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 01:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o890sNov 03 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Linux Distribution You Should Use Mohammad Forhad Iftekher 4 hours ago | Tux MachinesNov 03 01:47
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/35965/Nov 03 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: Poettering said...: systemd 225 Adds 'su' Replacement, Saving of Private-Zone DHCP OptionsNov 03 02:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/661327361174929408Nov 03 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @Snowden @schestowitz They need to define 'breakable'. We all know given enough time anything's breakable so how easy do they want it to be?Nov 03 02:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Going IaaS: What You Need to KnowNov 03 02:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/gFhqXRbW7r (www.linux.com)Nov 03 02:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8944Nov 03 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Going IaaS: What You Need to Know | Linux.comNov 03 02:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Government picks Collabora for new Open SourceNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop suite https://t.co/i9BxrdqpKLNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itproportal.com)Nov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8959Nov 03 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Government picks Collabora for new Open Source desktop suite | ITProPortal.comNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tizen Smartphone Coming to 11 EuropeanNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Countries Including UK, France, Germany andNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Russia By Ash - Nov 2, 2015Nov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y7iqRAeVkE (www.tizenexperts.com)Nov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o895aNov 03 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Exclusive: Tizen Smartphone Coming to 11 European Countries Including UK, France, Germany and Russia - Tizen ExpertsNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Which Linux Distribution You Should UseNov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pN7dhqu8hr (www.unixmen.com)Nov 03 02:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o895bNov 03 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com | Which Linux Distribution You Should Use | UnixmenNov 03 02:52
msb_"It's a good thing I'm Russian.  We're used to hopeless situations."  -- Susan Ivanova -- Babylon 5Nov 03 02:55
XRevan86msb_: Can't comment that %).Nov 03 03:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Doorways: Holy Mountains Of Flesh, An ImmersiveNov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Horror Adventure Now On LinuxNov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SnlvFRtHVb (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89c6Nov 03 04:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Doorways: Holy Mountains Of Flesh, An Immersive Horror Adventure Now On Linux | GamingOnLinuxNov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Voxel Blast, A Really Retro 3D Space ShooterNov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 With Cool Music Now On LinuxNov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IZ90aZ3tjG (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89c7Nov 03 04:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Voxel Blast, A Really Retro 3D Space Shooter With Cool Music Now On Linux | GamingOnLinuxNov 03 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Turn nearly any laptop into a Chromebook forNov 03 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 free  https://t.co/neGspbPWID (www.zdnet.com)Nov 03 04:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89c8Nov 03 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Turn nearly any laptop into a Chromebook for free | ZDNetNov 03 04:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RavenXV/status/661478978767728640 https://twitter.com/RavenXV/status/661479311015309312  https://twitter.com/RavenXV/status/661480980994240512  Nov 03 04:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RavenXV: .@laurelrusswurm Yep, tho' the "mass" surveillance becomes narrow & nefarious @alastairsloan @schestowitz https://t.co/6xtChbHwa0Nov 03 04:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RavenXV: .@laurelrusswurm & we get told Democratic States eg:UK conduct the same for the same ends @alastairsloan @schestowitzNov 03 04:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RavenXV: .@schestowitz And they (UK Govt / GCHQ) wonders why we here think they are all shit @laurelrusswurm @alastairsloan https://t.co/Lp01HZuHaRNov 03 04:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The good, the bad and the Ubuntu 15.10Nov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/m76V7o1Rdu (distrowatch.com)Nov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89gxNov 03 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Nov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux 14.0 Screenshot TourNov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RUxFwIXZoiNov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxscreenshots.org)Nov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89gyNov 03 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | 4MLinux 14.0 Screenshot TourNov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 3/11/2015: Linux 4.3, OpenELEC 6.0Nov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QjynsPcAmn (techrights.org)Nov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89gzNov 03 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/11/2015: Linux 4.3, OpenELEC 6.0 | TechrightsNov 03 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei Watch review: the best Android WearNov 03 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 smartwatch https://t.co/L1pS9vJKLcNov 03 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theguardian.com)Nov 03 04:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89h7Nov 03 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Huawei Watch review: the best Android Wear smartwatch | Technology | The GuardianNov 03 04:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Announcing the Fedora Developer PortalNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FTHDM4HHma (fedoramagazine.org)Nov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89hbNov 03 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Announcing the Fedora Developer Portal - Fedora MagazineNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/nnD4802A7RNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89heNov 03 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/l8Acl1XQSbNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89hfNov 03 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/YeocYeVKxCNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89hgNov 03 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesNov 03 04:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pensadorlouco/status/661482272357539840Nov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/EFF7eSWFTxNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pensadorlouco: Linus Torvalds fires off angry ‘compiler-masturbation’ rant https://t.co/cE8xsrFHGO #linux #techrightsNov 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89hhNov 03 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com | Linus Torvalds fires off angry ‘compiler-masturbation’ rant | Full Circle Magazine - Linkis.comNov 03 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 03 05:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Whats New for You This November in Open SourceNov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 CMS https://t.co/L4wioiyDdXNov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89keNov 03 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Whats New for You This November in Open Source CMS | Tux MachinesNov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The return of kwin_gles https://t.co/cSEUCWqZS3Nov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.martin-graesslin.com)Nov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89kfNov 03 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.martin-graesslin.com | The return of kwin_gles | Martin's BlogNov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cinnamon 2.8 released! https://t.co/JbO0CJu3eANov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (segfault.linuxmint.com)Nov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89kgNov 03 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segfault.linuxmint.com | Cinnamon 2.8 released! ← SegfaultNov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromixium OS 1.5 Screencast and Screenshots Nov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/x5CswJ9OvhNov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org)Nov 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89khNov 03 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Chromixium OS 1.5 Screencast and ScreenshotsNov 03 05:31
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schestowitzA bit olderNov 03 05:58
schestowitzhttp://earthsky.org/todays-image/fires-in-indonesiaNov 03 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-earthsky.org | Fires in Indonesia spread smoke | Today's Image | EarthSkyNov 03 05:58
schestowitz"Notice on the map they have also started fires over in PNG I've avoided products with palm oil for a long time now." -iophkNov 03 05:58
schestowitz> x http://www.svd.se/5-saker-bill-gates-forutspadde-1999Nov 03 06:03
schestowitz> Nov 03 06:03
schestowitz> More bill-the-visionary revisionismNov 03 06:03
schestowitzOne day children will grow up not to know he ever was "controversial"Nov 03 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.svd.se | 5 saker Bill Gates förutspådde 1999 | SvDNov 03 06:03
schestowitz> http://business.financialpost.com/business-insider/people-in-sweden-are-hiding-cash-in-their-microwaves-because-of-a-fascinating-and-terrifying-economic-experimentNov 03 06:07
schestowitz> Nov 03 06:07
schestowitz> Have you checked your service charges lately?Nov 03 06:07
schestowitzVirtually non-existent in the US, except the low interest on money they lend out to reckless peopleNov 03 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-business.financialpost.com | People in Sweden are hiding cash in their microwaves because of a fascinating — and terrifying — economic experiment | Financial PostNov 03 06:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf review - Fast andNov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines                 spurious  https://t.co/ZDUwKhFcSiNov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Nov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89ocNov 03 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Ubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf review - Fast and spuriousNov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 3/11/2015: Linux 4.3, OpenELEC 6.0Nov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    https://t.co/QjynsPcAmn (techrights.org)Nov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Nov 03 06:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89lzNov 03 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/11/2015: Linux 4.3, OpenELEC 6.0 | TechrightsNov 03 06:12
schestowitz>>> x http://www.svd.se/5-saker-bill-gates-forutspadde-1999Nov 03 06:25
schestowitz>>> >> Nov 03 06:25
schestowitz>>> >> More bill-the-visionary revisionismNov 03 06:25
schestowitz>> > Nov 03 06:25
schestowitz>> > One day children will grow up not to know he ever was "controversial"Nov 03 06:25
schestowitz> Well, he did single handedly invent the Internet with his own hands...Nov 03 06:25
schestowitz> or so I get the impression.  :PNov 03 06:25
schestowitzI can't think of an effective way to counter this with articles, without linking to such puff pieces and giving them hits.Nov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Announcing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2Nov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IxLjdTwtfv (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89q2Nov 03 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 | Tux MachinesNov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenStack Summit: From Containers to Gaming asNov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 a Service https://t.co/eFMeoOOauzNov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 06:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89q3Nov 03 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenStack Summit: From Containers to Gaming as a Service | Tux MachinesNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf review - Fast andNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 spurious https://t.co/JEUmsDxlSzNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89q4Nov 03 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf review - Fast and spurious | Tux MachinesNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Flavors Comparison: Ubuntu 15.10 vsNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Kubuntu 15.10 vs Ubuntu GNOME 15.10Nov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nIL9B6IuV4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89q6Nov 03 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Flavors Comparison: Ubuntu 15.10 vs Kubuntu 15.10 vs Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 | Tux MachinesNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five Open-Source Slack AlternativesNov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HzFw4sV94d (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89q7Nov 03 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives | Tux MachinesNov 03 06:26
*TweetTuxMachines @Infiniscene favourited 'OpenStack Summit: From Containers to Gaming as a...'Nov 03 06:47
*TweetTuxMachines @Infiniscene followed @tuxmachinesNov 03 06:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Flavors Comparison: Ubuntu 15.10 vsNov 03 06:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Kubuntu 15.10 vs Ubuntu GNOME 15.10Nov 03 06:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NupytDdGPj (www.hecticgeek.com)Nov 03 06:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89rtNov 03 06:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com | Ubuntu Flavors Comparison: Ubuntu 15.10 vs Kubuntu 15.10 vs Ubuntu GNOME 15.10Nov 03 06:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/661510472915660800Nov 03 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz Translation: merging the OSes will facilitate easier #metadata collation for NSA & #GCHQ #privacysellouts @corporategreedNov 03 06:53
schestowitzI don't think it would truly ease this processNov 03 06:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/661510703354916865Nov 03 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: The ultimate example of turning people into slaves! https://t.co/ae5XheVqsz #NoAgendaShowNov 03 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: People in Sweden are hiding cash in their microwaves because of a fascinating — and terrifying — economic experiment https://t.co/3RQkhhr6qXNov 03 06:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/inkchug/status/661514737285505024Nov 03 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@inkchug: I prefer Windows 7. For the last month+ my computer fails at installing KB3097617. Driving me crazy. #t https://t.co/neeDBWAhmkNov 03 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped https://t.co/cWW45syOxw #vista10Nov 03 07:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top Android Remote Apps >Nov 03 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7WO80X8yXa (www.datamation.com)Nov 03 08:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89yfNov 03 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Top Android Remote Apps - DatamationNov 03 08:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where’s My Marshmallow? When Will You BeNov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Getting The Android Marshmallow Update?Nov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/XVT125Y8iONov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.knowyourmobile.com)Nov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89ygNov 03 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knowyourmobile.com | Where’s My Marshmallow? When Will You Be Getting The Android Marshmallow Update? | Know Your MobileNov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers https://t.co/x0FgYorVd0Nov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 08:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o89yhNov 03 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 03 08:05
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txtNov 03 12:42
cubexyzok, I can't imagine anyone reading all that and saying Gates was a visionaryNov 03 12:42
cubexyzhe's an extractor of technology, a takerNov 03 12:43
cubexyzhe's also a big-time blocker of non-microsoft techNov 03 12:44
cubexyzin the beginning... the PDP-10 time used to write the first 8080 simulators for the initial BASIC interpreter was stolenNov 03 12:46
cubexyzalso let's not forget Blue Mountain ArtsNov 03 12:48
MinceRhe was a visionary in confidence scamsNov 03 12:48
cubexyzI haven't added blue mountain to the dirty tricks file as yetNov 03 12:49
cubexyzhttp://www.dotcomeon.com/bluemountain.htmlNov 03 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dotcomeon.com | Blue Mountain Arts Sues WebTV and Microsoft for Email BlockingNov 03 12:49
cubexyznaturally Microsoft had it's own greet card businessNov 03 12:50
cubexyzMicrosoft needed to be slapped down hard, but what did Judge Kollar-Kotelly do?Nov 03 12:52
cubexyzdidn't break up Microsoft, didn't require Microsoft to change any code, or prevent Microsoft from tying other software to windows!Nov 03 12:53
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cubexyzThe Microsoft Boosters are simply wrongNov 03 14:43
cubexyzbut it's somewhat forgiveable that younger people think Microsoft invented PCsNov 03 14:44
cubexyzit's not true of courseNov 03 14:44
cubexyzthe Microsoft employee's may have deluded themselves into thinking that but it's falseNov 03 14:45
cubexyzwhat we call the PC was invented by IBM and IntelNov 03 14:45
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cubexyzthe PC clone? Invented by Columbia Data Products and CompaqNov 03 14:46
cubexyzTCP/IP stack? from BSDNov 03 14:48
cubexyzjust think about Unix for a second...Nov 03 14:53
cubexyzBSD had a TCP/IP stack in 1983Nov 03 14:53
cubexyzthat's 2 years before windows 1.0 existedNov 03 14:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upgrading from Fedora 22 to Fedora 23Nov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/6QuG2txKm6 (fedoramagazine.org)Nov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8busNov 03 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Upgrading from Fedora 22 to Fedora 23 - Fedora MagazineNov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BlackBerry's New Android Smartphone Could BeNov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Its Last Device  https://t.co/0ls5DXAqDQNov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bloomberg.com)Nov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8butNov 03 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | BlackBerry's New Android Smartphone Could Be Its Last Device - Bloomberg BusinessNov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Imagining what Google’s hybridNov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Android-plus-Chrome OS might look likeNov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a2Y72IcZK8 (arstechnica.com)Nov 03 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8buuNov 03 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Imagining what Google’s hybrid Android-plus-Chrome OS might look like | Ars TechnicaNov 03 15:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It's a Bird. It's Another Bird!Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/8kawf8Y5BJ (www.linuxjournal.com)Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxjNov 03 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | It's a Bird. It's Another Bird! | Linux JournalNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Bomgar Remote Support 15.2 offers newNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 capabilities for supporting Linux endpoints"Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8kawf8Y5BJ (www.linuxjournal.com)Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxkNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android N UK release date, name and featureNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 rumours: Can you guess the name of Android 7.0Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 N? https://t.co/eXhbdEZVe9Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcadvisor.co.uk)Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxlNov 03 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk | Android N UK release date, name and feature rumours - New Product - PC AdvisorNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 released https://t.co/5RzubJhMiiNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (fedoramagazine.org)Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxmNov 03 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora 23 released - Fedora MagazineNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s new in Fedora 23 WorkstationNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/E5keeOOr9y (fedoramagazine.org)Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxnNov 03 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | What's new in Fedora 23 Workstation - Fedora MagazineNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: EnriqueNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Sevillano https://t.co/wPw3kpriVuNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxoNov 03 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Enrique Sevillano | Tux MachinesNov 03 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Document Foundation announces LibreOfficeNov 03 15:22
TweetTuxMachines                 5.0.3 “fresh” and LibreOffice 4.4.6 “still”Nov 03 15:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/k3YI9N0fI3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 15:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8bxsNov 03 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 5.0.3 “fresh” and LibreOffice 4.4.6 “still” | Tux MachinesNov 03 15:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A breakdown of FOSS for students andNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 researchers in academia https://t.co/e5QjEmWSdQNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8by4Nov 03 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A breakdown of FOSS for students and researchers in academia | Tux MachinesNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     In Memory of Telsa GwynneNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1CesoqQykE (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8by5Nov 03 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | In Memory of Telsa Gwynne | Tux MachinesNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Budgie 15.11 Is Based on Budgie 8.3 andNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 It Looks Great https://t.co/JcXnFMTAPKNov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8by6Nov 03 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Budgie 15.11 Is Based on Budgie 8.3 and It Looks Great | Tux MachinesNov 03 15:23
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schestowitz> While we are in conversation, I offer a bit of family gossip fromNov 03 16:06
schestowitz> Florida. Andrew has filed for divorce. They brought out the worst inNov 03 16:06
schestowitz> each other and the 20 year marriage was doomed from the early years. ANov 03 16:06
schestowitz> little advice...stay close with your family. Do you stay in touch withNov 03 16:06
schestowitz> your siblings?Nov 03 16:06
schestowitzI can recall him crying on the phone over a decade ago, after he had distanced himself from his parents and had problems with the marriage. Siblings are one kind of support network, I'm close with my brother these days...Nov 03 16:06
schestowitz^ OT ^Nov 03 16:06
schestowitza friend from FloridaNov 03 16:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/661651756087181312Nov 03 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz FYI, SUEPO site seems to work again. Probably maintenance.Nov 03 16:12
schestowitzstill down for meNov 03 16:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cinnamon 2.8 released: ScreenshotsNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l6bAMFuxDN (linuxbsdos.com)Nov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cceNov 03 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxbsdos.com | Cinnamon 2.8 released: Screenshots | LinuxBSDos.comNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: EnriqueNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Sevillano  https://t.co/0RveCnPydgNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Nov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8ccfNov 03 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Enrique Sevillano | Linux.comNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro Budgie 15.11 Is Based on Budgie 8.3 andNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 It Looks Great https://t.co/wlYsTWKVlYNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8ccgNov 03 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Budgie 15.11 Is Based on Budgie 8.3 and It Looks Great - SoftpediaNov 03 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overcoming barriers to Open Source - TacklingNov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 the business case for open sourceNov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sNSKud0v1y (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8ce6Nov 03 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Overcoming barriers to Open Source - Tackling the business case for open source | Tux MachinesNov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ZOTAC Have A Trailer To Show Off Their NENNov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam Machine https://t.co/dfjB0d99mkNov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 03 16:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cedNov 03 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | ZOTAC Have A Trailer To Show Off Their NEN Steam Machine | GamingOnLinuxNov 03 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Alienware Steam Machine Is Shown Off In AnotherNov 03 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Nice Video https://t.co/0SzmXlFqO2Nov 03 16:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 03 16:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cefNov 03 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Alienware Steam Machine Is Shown Off In Another Nice Video | GamingOnLinuxNov 03 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Another Fishing Game Is Planning A LinuxNov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Version Named 'Euro Fishing'Nov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZPFfirfNLQ (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cgmNov 03 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Another Fishing Game Is Planning A Linux Version Named 'Euro Fishing' | GamingOnLinuxNov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Compact, rugged box-PC has four GbE ports, runsNov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/TFHiY7d1sD (linuxgizmos.com)Nov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cgnNov 03 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Compact, rugged box-PC has four GbE ports, runs Linux ·  LinuxGizmos.comNov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tails 1.7 is out  https://t.co/jGNWmBd6adNov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (tails.boum.org) "This release fixes numerousNov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 security issues. All users must upgrade as soonNov 03 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://tails.boum.org/news/version_1.7/index.en.html )Nov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 as possible."Nov 03 17:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cgoNov 03 17:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fotoxx 15.11.1 Has Been Just ReleasedNov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Nv8Kqhz5Aq (linuxg.net)Nov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cq2Nov 03 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Fotoxx 15.11.1 Has Been Just Released | LinuxG.netNov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 3/11/2015: Tails 1.7, Fedora 23Nov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/G1bzF1RAre (techrights.org)Nov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cq7Nov 03 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/11/2015: Tails 1.7, Fedora 23 | TechrightsNov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/kt84gSSmAMNov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) Today in TechrightsNov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kt84gSSmAM (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cq8Nov 03 18:14
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 3/11/2015: Tails 1.7, Fedora 23 https://t.co/G1bzF1RAre'Nov 03 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesNov 03 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/2rvcEoDh5LNov 03 18:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 18:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cqfNov 03 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesNov 03 18:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/mydwZMgNMsNov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8cufNov 03 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesNov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/UjYNYUwQ6HNov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 18:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesNov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/sA3LFWQlkZNov 03 18:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/BSUoFJiuLMNov 03 18:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesNov 03 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/BSUoFJiuLMNov 03 19:58
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 19:58
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Nov 03 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Too many blobs being inserted into #linux theseNov 03 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 days https://t.co/zz9yg9k1Iq (www.phoronix.com)Nov 03 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNU Linux-libre 4.3 Warns Of Intel Skylake Sound, New AMDGPU Blobs - PhoronixNov 03 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.3 File-System Comparison With Btrfs,Nov 03 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 EXT4, XFS, F2FS https://t.co/Vifk9SaKxBNov 03 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.3 File-System Comparison With Btrfs, EXT4, XFS, F2FS - PhoronixNov 03 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rootless #XOrg is here https://t.co/UIwj5mV9BXNov 03 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Moves To Non-Root X.Org Server By Default - PhoronixNov 03 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Antifeatures like #tpm injected into #linuxNov 03 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0dhgErzh70 (lkml.iu.edu)Nov 03 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: [GIT PULL] Security subsystem update for 4.4Nov 03 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine-Staging 1.7.54 Improves The WIDL CompilerNov 03 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BcKwSdh14o (www.phoronix.com)Nov 03 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wine-Staging 1.7.54 Improves The WIDL Compiler - PhoronixNov 03 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Mobile Voter Registration SystemNov 03 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Mobile Voter Registration System | Tux MachinesNov 03 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Linux 4.4 https://t.co/kbt1J7GXTjNov 03 22:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 22:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Linux 4.4 | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Phoronix on Linux 4.3 https://t.co/jvMdBAiNvCNov 03 22:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 03 22:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Linux 4.3 | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-based robots will soon deliver packagesNov 03 22:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based robots will soon deliver packages | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 Cinnamon: ScreenshotsNov 03 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 23 Cinnamon: Screenshots | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox Version 42.0 https://t.co/aD1nimReGhNov 03 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Version 42.0 | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD comes to 64-bit ARMNov 03 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD comes to 64-bit ARM | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SUSECon 2015: SUSE joins the Cloud FoundryNov 03 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSECon 2015: SUSE joins the Cloud Foundry | Tux MachinesNov 03 22:56
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msb_Would somebody please call me on skype?  My ID is   markbilk    I want to see if I get audio notification.  I'm trying to communicate with a long-lost friend, who only may be able to use skype.Nov 04 03:54
msb_I know its evil, but please do it anyhow.Nov 04 03:56
msb_Nevermind.  We called each other and it worked.Nov 04 04:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel Summit tech day coverage completeNov 04 04:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Kernel Summit tech day coverage complete [LWN.net]Nov 04 04:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora Marketing is Not a Spectator SportNov 04 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/rZtdPxvZDX (fedoramagazine.org)Nov 04 05:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora Marketing is Not a Spectator Sport - Fedora MagazineNov 04 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 6.0 Marshmallow vs. iOS 9 – What YouNov 04 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Need To Know About Them https://t.co/xeNamfhtkzNov 04 05:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neurogadget.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow vs. iOS 9 – What You Need To Know About Them - Neurogadget.comNov 04 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-based robots will soon deliver packagesNov 04 05:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-based robots will soon deliver packages ·  LinuxGizmos.comNov 04 05:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23 Cinnamon: ScreenshotsNov 04 05:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxbsdos.com | Fedora 23 Cinnamon: Screenshots | LinuxBSDos.comNov 04 05:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox Version 42.0 https://t.co/D1j6w5UurMNov 04 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.mozilla.org) https://t.co/wnbSWmKUeyNov 04 05:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Firefox — Notes (42.0) — MozillaNov 04 05:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Firefox 42 Brings Improvements And Changes | LinuxG.netNov 04 05:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fresh LibreOffice Updates, Fedora 23 ReleasedNov 04 05:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Fresh LibreOffice Updates, Fedora 23 ReleasedNov 04 05:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming on Linux is Here: Install SteamOS BetaNov 04 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Today https://t.co/jmDTVDEY81Nov 04 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.makeuseof.com) https://t.co/XMkE9L9tDhNov 04 06:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Gaming on Linux is Here: Install SteamOS Beta TodayNov 04 06:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Steam Linux Usage Increases Slightly, Still Below 1% - PhoronixNov 04 06:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fresh LibreOffice Updates, Fedora 23 ReleasedNov 04 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RKdciFcSJw (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 06:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fresh LibreOffice Updates, Fedora 23 Released | Tux MachinesNov 04 06:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gaming on Linux is Here: Install SteamOS BetaNov 04 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Today https://t.co/K2XeaFXCeoNov 04 06:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gaming on Linux is Here: Install SteamOS Beta Today | Tux MachinesNov 04 06:18
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XRevan86https://news.opensuse.org/2015/11/04/opensuse-leap-42-1-becomes-first-hybrid-distributionNov 04 07:11
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XRevan86openSUSE Leap 42.1 release that is.Nov 04 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/HHC7UgcV49Nov 04 07:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 07:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux MachinesNov 04 07:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU/Linux and Free/Libre Software Dominance:Nov 04 07:48
TweetTuxMachines                 What It Comes Down to is PatentsNov 04 07:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a4n57ZtUKB (techrights.org)Nov 04 07:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU/Linux and Free/Libre Software Dominance: What It Comes Down to is Patents | TechrightsNov 04 07:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Quick-turn baseboard dev tool adds third-partyNov 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 COMs, SBCs https://t.co/s0mzWJtW9QNov 04 08:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quick-turn baseboard dev tool adds third-party COMs, SBCs | Tux MachinesNov 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     European rural schools rely on open sourceNov 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pjSgO901nW (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 08:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | European rural schools rely on open source | Tux MachinesNov 04 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fixes Added for Ubuntu Touch OTA-8Nov 04 08:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TDzz9BpUdI (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 08:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Fixes Added for Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 | Tux MachinesNov 04 08:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU/Linux and Free/Libre Software Dominance:Nov 04 09:53
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    What It Comes Down to is PatentsNov 04 09:53
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/a4n57ZtUKB (techrights.org)Nov 04 09:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Quick-turn baseboard dev tool adds third-partyNov 04 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 COMs, SBCs https://t.co/SBomcFyMUTNov 04 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Nov 04 09:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Quick-turn baseboard dev tool adds third-party COMs, SBCs ·  LinuxGizmos.comNov 04 09:53
MinceRso much bullshitNov 04 10:15
MinceRand yet not one fucking word about what these systemd and mono lovers mean by "hybrid distribution"Nov 04 10:16
MinceRtypical corporate garbageNov 04 10:16
XRevan86MinceR: It's a hybrid from SLE and openSUSE Tumbleweed.Nov 04 10:22
XRevan86that's what they meantNov 04 10:22
MinceR"ooh, look at us, we're the first in the world to make a hybrid of our two previous shitty distros!"Nov 04 10:23
*MinceR spitsNov 04 10:23
XRevan86MinceR: ookayNov 04 10:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Fixes Added for Ubuntu Touch OTA-8Nov 04 10:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OG8VCRK4IJ (news.softpedia.com)Nov 04 10:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | More Fixes Added for Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 - SoftpediaNov 04 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch on More Phones Would Be a Mistake Right Now, Says Mark Shuttleworth - SoftpediaNov 04 10:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review OpenSUSE 42.1 LeapNov 04 10:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MXf6H1oiK6 (www.unixmen.com)Nov 04 10:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com | Review OpenSUSE 42.1 Leap | UnixmenNov 04 10:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME’s newcomer guide is improvingNov 04 10:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mnhRb9I6QY (blogs.gnome.org)Nov 04 10:48
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XRevan86MinceR: By the way, Mono?Nov 04 11:38
XRevan86MinceR: Mono and SUSE are unrelated now.Nov 04 11:38
MinceRthey were pushing pretty hard for it back in the dayNov 04 11:40
MinceRnow they got in line with another attempt to destroy gnu/linux, systemdNov 04 11:40
MinceRplus their distros always sucked, afaictNov 04 11:40
MinceRi have no respect for themNov 04 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kubuntu Developers Planning Improvements ForNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 16.04 Xenial https://t.co/GkIAWQoZKQNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Nov 04 12:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Kubuntu Developers Planning Improvements For 16.04 Xenial - PhoronixNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat News https://t.co/Dt6W9xWeGhNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 12:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux MachinesNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kubuntu Developers Planning Improvements ForNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 16.04 Xenial https://t.co/1VDh8mf4bDNov 04 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 12:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Developers Planning Improvements For 16.04 Xenial | Tux MachinesNov 04 12:25
cubexyzI bet companies try to force everyone into the cloud in the futureNov 04 13:10
MinceRindeedNov 04 13:13
MinceRthe attempt to destroy general-purpose computers or at least take them out of the hands of most people, including us, is part of thatNov 04 13:14
MinceRtake the power out of the hands of the people and make them dependent on the megacorporationsNov 04 13:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME’s newcomer guide is improvingNov 04 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ikmm5sKcMY (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 13:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Kernel, GraphicsNov 04 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Oav1RKxia2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 13:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME’s newcomer guide is improving | Tux MachinesNov 04 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Kernel, Graphics | Tux MachinesNov 04 13:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review OpenSUSE 42.1 LeapNov 04 13:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6x8r1W4lLr (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 13:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review OpenSUSE 42.1 Leap | Tux MachinesNov 04 13:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6754934Nov 04 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Veeam announces Backup for Linux http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=147364 #gnu #linuxNov 04 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.itweb.co.za' ( status 0 @ http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=147364 )Nov 04 13:20
schestowitz"Nov 04 13:20
schestowitzI interviewed once for a job and was asked what backup software I had experience on, so I said tar. Do not remember exactly how it went but was something like: What happens if you want to transfer backups between operating systems? I use tar. And what about compression? tar with gzip. And if you want to schedule backups? tar with cron. And for backing up Windows servers? I do not care, I’m a Linux sysadmin.Nov 04 13:20
schestowitzEven so I got the job. =)Nov 04 13:20
schestowitz"Nov 04 13:20
schestowitz"lol"Nov 04 13:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6779623Nov 04 13:21
schestowitz"don’t use Iphone ? It’s the same i suppose with Android, no ?"Nov 04 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #NSA Can Now Spy On #Apple #iPhones Via Zero Day Hack http://www.bidnessetc.com/56720-the-nsa-can-now-spy-on-apple-iphones-via-zero-day-hack/ solution: don't use one.Nov 04 13:21
schestowitzYes, to a similar degreeNov 04 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bidnessetc.com | The NSA Can Now Spy On Apple iPhones Via Zero Day HackNov 04 13:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Sells Out With a Microsoft Patent DealNov 04 13:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VLON8BbkCB (techrights.org)Nov 04 13:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Sells Out With a Microsoft Patent...'Nov 04 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat Sells Out With a Microsoft Patent Deal | TechrightsNov 04 13:23
cubexyzno one seems to talk much about the successor to tar which was called darNov 04 13:35
cubexyzI have to admit I've never bothered with it 'Nov 04 13:35
XRevan86cubexyz: But tar is perfect.Nov 04 13:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 6.0 Marshmallow Update Status For MotoNov 04 13:39
TweetTuxMachines                 X Pure, Moto X Play, Moto G, Moto ENov 04 13:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0BwPwndayR (www.ibtimes.com)Nov 04 13:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gs2Nov 04 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Android 6.0 Marshmallow Update Status For Moto X Pure, Moto X Play, Moto G, Moto ENov 04 13:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why Google Should Merge Chrome OS and Android Nov 04 13:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/A8bqleOcIK (gadgets.ndtv.com)Nov 04 13:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gs7Nov 04 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Why Google Should Merge Chrome OS and Android | NDTV Gadgets360.comNov 04 13:39
MinceRhttp://techrights.org/2015/11/04/red-hat-sells-out/Nov 04 13:50
MinceRtime to call for a boycott against redcrapNov 04 13:51
cubexyzaround 2011 Fedora went kind of badNov 04 13:52
MinceRit was always bad, but not this badNov 04 13:52
cubexyzthat's when I started looking more closely at BSD and slackwareNov 04 13:52
cubexyzit wasn't always badNov 04 13:53
MinceRit was always rpmNov 04 13:53
cubexyzwhen Yarrow came out back in 2003 I liked it a lotNov 04 13:53
MinceRi wonder when they started using the train wreck known as yumNov 04 13:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Andalucia’s IT management tool ‘ready forNov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 reuse’Nov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/QvuRbKtB70 (joinup.ec.europa.eu)Nov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 "designed to run on the Debian and Ubuntu"Nov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gvoNov 04 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Andalucia’s IT management tool ‘ready for reuse’ | JoinupNov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 20 Best Tizen Apps for October 2015Nov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/O4JLGXmOLF (www.tizenexperts.com)Nov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gvpNov 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best smartwatch for AndroidNov 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SHRf26QQGz (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gvuNov 04 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The best smartwatch for Android | Tux MachinesNov 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Software Centre To Be Replaced in 16.04Nov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS https://t.co/zyZjGWTRKzNov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gwkNov 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Software Centre To Be Replaced in 16.04 LTS | Tux MachinesNov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 42.1 Leap BenchmarksNov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bUhXzSt1JS (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gwlNov 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE 42.1 Leap Benchmarks | Tux MachinesNov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Debian Administrator’s Handbook is on itsNov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 way (now finalised) https://t.co/b8FDE2fkhyNov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (raphaelhertzog.com)Nov 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8gwmNov 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raphaelhertzog.com | My Free Software Activities in October 2015Nov 04 13:58
cubexyzwell if you go back far enough there was only tar, and before that just ar and tpNov 04 14:01
cubexyzeventually if you want to maintain an old distro your repos will disappear anywayNov 04 14:02
cubexyzI suppose you could set up your own repoNov 04 14:03
cubexyzI'm quite comfortable using tarballs, compile and install that wayNov 04 14:04
MinceRschestowitz: do you have more on this patent deal? the redcrap press release doesn't seem to say anything about patents specificallyNov 04 14:04
cubexyzwe still use ar today actually... look in /usr/libNov 04 14:05
cubexyzthere's lots of *.a files in thereNov 04 14:05
cubexyzyes, it's a shame about RedhatNov 04 14:07
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/desktop/fc1-upgraded-desktop-2010.pngNov 04 14:14
cubexyza reminder of happier daysNov 04 14:14
MinceRback when kde wasn't shitNov 04 14:14
schestowitz[19:04] <MinceR> schestowitz: do you have more on this patent deal? the redcrap press release doesn't seem to say anything about patents specificallyNov 04 14:30
schestowitzYou need to look more closely, beyond the PRNov 04 14:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/661989369872523266Nov 04 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: by the way: use @ownCloud ! https://t.co/e7pvZYZF75Nov 04 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Wikinaut I did earlier todayNov 04 14:32
schestowitzToo much SUSE in it..Nov 04 14:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/661989823977267200Nov 04 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Where is your special problem, pls. elaborate. https://t.co/OjxMl6BXjHNov 04 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Wikinaut @ownCloud Too much SUSE in it..Nov 04 14:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/661990217709146117Nov 04 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz if you say, too much SUSE in ownCloud, is then too much RSA in PGP/GPG and what do you want to do against it ? Going Signal ?Nov 04 14:47
schestowitzYou need to understand my past with Boycott NovellNov 04 14:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new Android One phone will launch in IndiaNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines                 soon  https://t.co/ATZDh7KFuwNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com)Nov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8h88Nov 04 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | A new Android One phone will launch in India soon | The VergeNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Says Over 19K Organizations Are NowNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing Or Using Android For WorkNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IqoPPQYwu9 (techcrunch.com)Nov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8h89Nov 04 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Google Says Over 19K Organizations Are Now Testing Or Using Android For Work | TechCrunchNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How This One Radical Move Could Help GoogleNov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Fight Apple https://t.co/NtVCbrhAhB (time.com)Nov 04 14:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8h8aNov 04 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Merging Android and Chrome Could Help Google Fight AppleNov 04 14:51
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DaemonFCAnd the campaign is over. Mayor Henry won in a landslide. Republicans freaking out.Nov 04 14:56
DaemonFCEvery major candidate that our governor personally endorsed lost big time.Nov 04 14:56
MinceR:)Nov 04 15:05
MinceRschestowitz: might be worth linking this: http://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/faq-red-hat-and-microsoft-partnershipNov 04 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | FAQ: Red Hat and Microsoft Partnership | Red HatNov 04 15:07
MinceRnot that it particularly clears things up or anythingNov 04 15:07
cubexyzmore pushing the cloudNov 04 15:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662000363860553729Nov 04 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz please do check details before accusing.Nov 04 15:20
schestowitzI checkedNov 04 15:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/11/2015: Linux-Based Parcel Delivery,Nov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 https://t.co/USpm980FaFNov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Nov 04 15:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/11/2015: Linux-Based Parcel Delivery, OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 | TechrightsNov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Security Leftovers https://t.co/RtyiGUcsU3Nov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hefNov 04 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/2SrMMdJAqsNov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hegNov 04 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesNov 04 15:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662001876880244736Nov 04 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz so did we accept money? Did we betray the community? Please explain. And compare to Novell deal.Nov 04 15:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662002110184189952Nov 04 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz happily on Azure: Canonical. SUSE. Did you check?Nov 04 15:23
schestowitzI didn't say it's the same as Novell'sNov 04 15:24
schestowitz@jwildeboer I already chastised Canonical over thisNov 04 15:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662002332763312128Nov 04 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz you retweeted "money over ethics". Proof?Nov 04 15:24
schestowitzRed Hat thinks it can give it more customers, but at whose cost/expense?Nov 04 15:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662002717292896256Nov 04 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz nice. Proof? Did Red Hat accept money? Your retweet claims so, innit?Nov 04 15:26
schestowitzIt didn't claim anything like thatNov 04 15:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662002898189045760Nov 04 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz or could it be Microsoft accepting the inevitable? Open wins ;-)Nov 04 15:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662003296920580097Nov 04 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz you retweeted "money over ethics".Nov 04 15:34
schestowitzNot my wordsNov 04 15:34
schestowitz"Open" does not win when it's run under a proprietary stack by a company that patent-taxes itNov 04 15:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos https://t.co/zDEDv8iawKNov 04 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 15:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hhvNov 04 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesNov 04 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/zb5dpmFus3Nov 04 15:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 15:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hhxNov 04 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesNov 04 15:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers https://t.co/SMTbTLqsfDNov 04 15:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 15:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hhyNov 04 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesNov 04 15:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/11/2015: Linux-Based Parcel Delivery,Nov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 https://t.co/USpm980FaFNov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (techrights.org)Nov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hi0Nov 04 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/11/2015: Linux-Based Parcel Delivery, OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 | TechrightsNov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat’s Deal With Microsoft Resurrects FearsNov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 of Software Patents Against GNU/Linux andNov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Introduces Fees https://t.co/oOY65IP4wWNov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Nov 04 15:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hjaNov 04 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat’s Deal With Microsoft Resurrects Fears of Software Patents Against GNU/Linux and Introduces ‘Triple-Dipping’ of Fees | TechrightsNov 04 15:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662005919430090753 Nov 04 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz like Amazon?Nov 04 16:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662006101785845760Nov 04 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz and how much patent tax does Red Hat pay? Oooooh.Nov 04 16:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662008722860937216Nov 04 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz do we get vouchers to "compete" with SUSE they way Novell got?Nov 04 16:04
schestowitzNovell was a lot worseNov 04 16:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/662012754677604352\Nov 04 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz we don't get vouchers to "compete" with SUSE ;-)Nov 04 16:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/11/2015: Linux-Based Parcel Delivery,Nov 04 16:29
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 https://t.co/USpm980FaFNov 04 16:29
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  (techrights.org)Nov 04 16:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hr6Nov 04 16:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat’s Deal With Microsoft Resurrects FearsNov 04 16:30
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    of Software Patents Against GNU/Linux andNov 04 16:30
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Introduces Fees https://t.co/oOY65IP4wWNov 04 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Nov 04 16:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8hqhNov 04 16:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wind blows Helix Cloud, Pulsar Linux, RocketNov 04 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 RTOS toward IoT https://t.co/jxK8OgsonNNov 04 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 16:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8htbNov 04 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wind blows Helix Cloud, Pulsar Linux, Rocket RTOS toward IoT | Tux MachinesNov 04 16:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/662022669920026624Nov 04 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Surveillance bill: broad support gives way to alarm over detail @schestowitz https://t.co/4hLRajdUYzNov 04 16:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/662022669920026624Nov 04 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Surveillance bill: broad support gives way to alarm over detail | World news | The GuardianNov 04 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GALPon MiniNo Makes Kid-Friendly LightweightNov 04 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/MjEh2onkfQNov 04 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 17:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i3jNov 04 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GALPon MiniNo Makes Kid-Friendly Lightweight Linux | Tux MachinesNov 04 17:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tallelfin/status/662037037537619968Nov 04 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tallelfin: Heh. I had that *same* conversation with another #SysAdmin on Monday. https://t.co/2YlFbiZX9ENov 04 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is open source overtaking Splunk? https://t.co/WnjeDu4l1J hopefully.I used #splunk and it's overrated, grossly overpriced.Nov 04 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     kernel summit 2015 wrap-upNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OrdnKhdqy8 (codemonkey.org.uk)Nov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 "Exhausting travel aside, kernel summit inNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Seoul was a good use of time."Nov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i5yNov 04 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-codemonkey.org.uk | kernel summit 2015 wrap-up - codemonkey.org.ukNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google tries to woo enterprises with newNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Android for Work initiativesNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aR7ZtC4PkE (www.infoworld.com)Nov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i5zNov 04 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Google tries to woo enterprises with new Android for Work initiatives | InfoWorldNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition MayNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Actually Hit The Linux Release Next MonthNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9FJ0cuaBkv (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i62Nov 04 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition May Actually Hit The Linux Release Next Month | GamingOnLinuxNov 04 17:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best smartwatch for AndroidNov 04 17:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pjJXn5kdJI (www.theverge.com)Nov 04 17:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i6mNov 04 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The best smartwatch for Android | The VergeNov 04 17:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Software Centre To Be Replaced in 16.04Nov 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS https://t.co/2Bzya5EdZwNov 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Nov 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i6pNov 04 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Software Centre Is Bring DROPPED from Ubuntu 16.04Nov 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 42.1 Leap BenchmarksNov 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/umuNNpBGQC (www.phoronix.com)Nov 04 17:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8i6qNov 04 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | openSUSE 42.1 Leap Benchmarks - PhoronixNov 04 17:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/freedomgirl2011/status/662040787736248320Nov 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@freedomgirl2011: Caught On Tape: U.S. Army Jeep Rear-Ends A Nuke~ https://t.co/ZJJJQKsJkr @SpecterNews @schestowitz @jncatron https://t.co/iGvGt7SajrNov 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zerohedge.com | Caught On Tape: U.S. Army Jeep Rear-Ends A Nuke | Zero HedgeNov 04 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JulieSheats: Caught On Tape: U.S. Army Jeep Rear-Ends A Nuke~ https://t.co/ltItSrxYMU https://t.co/5wifEwFZuoNov 04 17:59
XFaCEschestowitz: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907#1234Nov 04 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | From kafkatrap to honeytrapNov 04 18:05
XFaCEhttp://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/04/feminists-are-trying-to-frame-linus-torvalds-for-sexual-assault-claims-open-source-industry-veteran/Nov 04 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.breitbart.com | Feminists Are Trying To Frame Linus Torvalds For Sexual Assault [ http://ur1.ca/o8i81 ]Nov 04 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wind blows Helix Cloud, Pulsar Linux, RocketNov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 RTOS toward IoT https://t.co/vGyp3JohqrNov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Nov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8ib2Nov 04 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Wind blows Helix Cloud, Pulsar Linux, Rocket RTOS toward IoT ·  LinuxGizmos.comNov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GALPon MiniNo Makes Kid-Friendly LightweightNov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/PhMxlQZJQ7Nov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxinsider.com)Nov 04 18:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | GALPon MiniNo Makes Kid-Friendly Lightweight Linux | Reviews | LinuxInsiderNov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights https://t.co/pfAim1vVffNov 04 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 04 18:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesNov 04 18:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ISG Cloud Comparison Index™: Cost of PublicNov 04 18:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/662054043737567233Nov 04 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz "Barbarians led by Bill Gates".Nov 04 18:54
schestowitzi read the bookNov 04 18:54
cubexyzanything interesting in there?Nov 04 18:58
schestowitzhmmm..Nov 04 19:16
schestowitzsomeNov 04 19:16
schestowitzI quoted some bits from there in techrights around 5 years agoNov 04 19:16
schestowitz>>> "Brussels offers enthusiastic welcome to our triumphant and infallibleNov 04 19:16
schestowitz>>> >> Dear Leader".Nov 04 19:16
schestowitz>> > Nov 04 19:16
schestowitz>> > I just did an article about this.Nov 04 19:16
schestowitz> Nov 04 19:16
schestowitz> I saw it, that was fast. Great!Nov 04 19:16
schestowitz> Nov 04 19:16
schestowitz> Have a good night,Nov 04 19:16
schestowitzI shall address the longer E-mail separately. Need sleep now. 10 articles composed today...Nov 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SteamOS Is Now Ready for Launch with Updates toNov 04 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CoreOS Debuts Tectonic, a Commercial KubernetesNov 04 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SteamOS Is Now Ready for Launch with Updates toNov 04 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SteamOS Is Now Ready for Launch with Updates to Linux Kernel 4.1 and New Drivers | Tux MachinesNov 04 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Koozali SME Server 8.2 Release NotesNov 04 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Koozali SME Server 8.2 Release Notes | Tux MachinesNov 04 19:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CoreOS Debuts Tectonic, a Commercial KubernetesNov 04 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 4.4 Getting Persistent Reservation APINov 04 19:48
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6781214Nov 04 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Eric S. Raymond in a sexist site http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/04/feminists-are-trying-to-frame-linus-torvalds-for-sexual-assault-claims-open-source-industry-veteran/Nov 04 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.breitbart.com | Feminists Are Trying To Frame Linus Torvalds For Sexual AssaultNov 04 20:42
schestowitz"Not the only source that reported on this story."Nov 04 20:42
MinceRand so redcrap's offensive against Linus and the kernel begins...Nov 04 20:44
MinceR(not counting kdbus...)Nov 04 20:44
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3rienu/microsoft_gradually_embraces_extends_extinguishes/Nov 04 20:49
schestowitz"Nice that you have an opinion sir, but could you elaborate your point of view using arguments?"Nov 04 20:49
schestowitz"I think you mean Microsoft Linux."Nov 04 20:49
schestowitz"why would some one name a company microsoft - sounds like a joke"Nov 04 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Gradually Embraces, Extends, Extinguishes Linux Foundation as a Foundation of GNU/Linux : linux [ http://ur1.ca/o8j2i ]Nov 04 20:49
schestowitzI wonder what would happen if Torvalds went on a rant against systemd of kdbusNov 04 20:50
schestowitzMaybe he's be accused of physical violence (insult) against LP... oh dear..Nov 04 20:50
schestowitzhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/02/1549201Nov 04 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/02/1549201 )Nov 04 20:51
schestowitz"It looks like Microsoft hasn't reformed as some would like to think, but has moved its embrace, extend, extinguish policy to the mobile platform. In this article from techrights.org , we see a company (responsible for Mono) with strong MS connections take over an open source project and close it."Nov 04 20:51
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:52
schestowitz    It looks like Microsoft hasn't reformed as some would like to thinkNov 04 20:52
schestowitzUmm, who would like to think that, when everything we know about Windows 10 suggests they're as evil as ever?Nov 04 20:52
schestowitzWhat's changed is not that Microsoft has become a Good Guy, but that those companies that might have been Good Guys in the past no longer are:Nov 04 20:52
schestowitz- Google: Wants a nice take via Google Play every time somebody adds an app to their phone. Wants to monitor as much as they possibly can about everybody's activities on the Internet.Nov 04 20:52
schestowitz- Apple: Also gets a nice percentage of app sales, and intentionally builds walled gardens where you have to pay them to put something in it.Nov 04 20:52
schestowitz- Red Hat: Has been pushing a plan to do $DEITY-knows-what to Linux using the ever-expanding thingamajig called "systemd".Nov 04 20:52
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:52
schestowitzAndroid allows side-loading. This complain does apply to Apple though. The other complain about Google is accurate of course. Don't forget Apple's eschewing of standards to enhance the lock-in goodness.Nov 04 20:52
schestowitzSadly, the systemd thing is what scares me the most in this list.Nov 04 20:52
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:52
MinceRwhat changed is that humans stand ever more openly against freedom and all that is goodNov 04 20:52
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:52
schestowitzThat first complaint doesn't even fully apply to Apple anymore either. Since June Apple developer accounts capable of loading apps onto personal iOS devices have been free.Nov 04 20:52
schestowitzSo although you can't just sideload pre-built iOS apps like Android, if the app author provides the source you can compile and load it yourself.Nov 04 20:52
schestowitzThe big caveats of course is that you need a recent Mac to run Xcode, and the app you want must provide have its source code available. But in principle requiring the user to compile the OSS app themselves is more secure than Android sideloading: the user must be more technically knowledgable, and they have the option to check the source code for security/privacy issues.Nov 04 20:53
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:53
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:53
schestowitzI never called what Apple now allows users to do "sideloading". The only times I used that word were when I said "although you can't just sideload pre-built iOS apps like Android" and that it "is more secure than Android sideloading".Nov 04 20:53
schestowitzAnd, if WillR's comment [soylentnews.org] is accurate, Google is trying hard to make Thelaxon's comment ("Google: Wants a nice take via Google Play every time somebody adds an app to their phone") more true... which was the very point you were trying to refute.Nov 04 20:53
schestowitzAnd since you want to argue definition, sideloading is *exactly* what's going on anyway: "process of transferring data between two local devices, in particular between a computer and a mobile device" [wikipedia.org]. Just because Android users started using it in a specific (and technically inaccurate!) context, doesn't make the term theirs exclusively.Nov 04 20:53
schestowitzSo no, Apple isn't allowing Android app-like sideloading. But it is now allowing sideloading (by definition!) of unapproved 3rd party software, for free.Nov 04 20:53
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:53
schestowitz"AOSP Android allows easy side-loading, but Google Android tries very hard to make sure it doesn't work. If your phone doesn't have the Google services installed and logged in to a Google account, an app side-loaded from the Google Android world is probably going to crash immediately. If it does have all that stuff, there's not much point side-loading when you can just... download."Nov 04 20:53
schestowitz"Nov 04 20:54
schestowitzRedHat does not deserve to be on this list. Everything they do is open-source and GPL, to a fault; new installs of Fedora need external repos for even multimedia codecs and freetype rendered fonts. RedHat has developed almost everything we have come to associate with a FOSS desktop, from GTK+ to NetworkManager to PulseAudio to one out of every six lines in the Linux kernel. RedHat became a billion dollar company, and they did it without Nov 04 20:54
schestowitzoffshoring their cash (based in RTP), without selling your personal data, and while managing to release the source code to their work.Nov 04 20:54
schestowitzYou have an issue with systemd, but your issue lies with your downstream distribution, not with RedHat. RedHat hasn't coerced anybody into accepting its initial system. In fact, SystemD has shown which distributions are the real creators, and exposed the fraudulent distros that just repackage and re-skin the work of others. OpenBSD, for example, is moving right along with the latest Gnome, working perfectly, and without systemd, because they Nov 04 20:54
schestowitzhave competent package maintainers. Your hatred or fear of RedHat is misdirected.Nov 04 20:54
schestowitz"You're *really* stretching the definition of side-loading to fit what Apple allows."Nov 04 20:54
MinceRinteresting how they carefully avoid saying that what redcrap does is free softwareNov 04 20:55
MinceRas it really isn'tNov 04 20:55
schestowitzyeahNov 04 20:55
schestowitzit's notNov 04 20:55
schestowitzI'm led down big timeNov 04 20:55
schestowitzanother article tomorrowNov 04 20:55
schestowitzabout this..Nov 04 20:55
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cubexyzright, give openbsd a try :)Nov 04 21:28
schestowitzbsd licence ain't for me...Nov 04 21:32
schestowitzand I had bad experiences with bsd on the serverNov 04 21:32
MinceRi will give openbsd a try, once i get a new laptopNov 04 21:32
MinceRalso netbsdNov 04 21:32
MinceRthe main VM will probably remain gnu/linux until bedrock (or something like it) starts supporting *bsd, though :>Nov 04 21:33
cubexyzI'm not saying don't use LinuxNov 04 21:33
cubexyzI'm merely saying you can use both BSD and LinuxNov 04 21:34
MinceRthat's my plan :)Nov 04 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Epic Games Announces Paragon GameNov 04 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Epic Games Announces Paragon Game - PhoronixNov 04 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Google spinning a merged Chrome/Android OS for laptops? | Tux MachinesNov 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DAQ SBC runs Linux on Zynq, offers FMCNov 04 22:02
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msb_MinceR: "<MinceR> what changed is that humans stand ever more openly against freedom and all that is good"  That is not true at all.  The efforts of Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn, Pope Francis, the grateful acceptance of Russia's fight against ISIL, the numerous accurate Net news sites, and the fact that many millions of people are watching RT, all indicate that people _do_ want freedom and good, and are becoming ever more aware of what'Nov 04 22:27
msb_s going on.Nov 04 22:27
msb_Also the Liberal victory in Canada.Nov 04 22:28
cubexyzI'd say the average Joe doesn't want to be shafted by corporationsNov 04 22:31
msb_"[OpenSuse] always sucked" Absolutely not.  Before it adopted systemd, OpenSuse was very well designed and well administered.  Instant help is always available in IRC.  A free build system is available for users to build packages and add them to a repo.  Suse still offers KDE3, or at least did in the last version.  Novell's deal with MS had nothing to do with the quality of the distro itself or the work of its maintainers.Nov 04 22:35
msb_I've used Suse for 15 years and it's always been good.Nov 04 22:35
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MinceRnot if you asked him that wayNov 04 22:36
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MinceRalso, i didn't know msb_ liked .net/monoNov 04 22:37
MinceRafter all, that's what *suse/novell was pushing before systemdNov 04 22:37
cubexyzis mono still being developed?Nov 04 22:38
msb_I have never used .net/mono.Nov 04 22:38
cubexyzok, yes, they had another release 2 months agoNov 04 22:39
MinceRalso, it's interesting how a marxist pope is enough to make msb_ love abrahamic religionNov 04 22:39
msb_MinceR: "not if you asked him that way"  Asked who what?Nov 04 22:40
MinceRmsb_: 043140 < cubexyz> I'd say the average Joe doesn't want to be shafted by corporationsNov 04 22:40
cubexyzheck, I'm still looking for a PVR that doesn't encryptNov 04 22:40
MinceR"i don't want to be shafted by corporations!" then immediately goes on to vote for a corporate party and by a hypePhoneNov 04 22:42
cubexyzhard to avoidNov 04 22:43
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  "a marxist pope is enough to make msb_ love abrahamic religion"  That is a LIE.  I like what Francis is saying about some social/economic issues, NOT the religion.  Nov 04 22:43
MinceRand you immediately forgive the International Pedophile Party all their crimesNov 04 22:43
MinceRand don't get me started on the rest of msb_'s bullshitNov 04 22:43
msb_MinceR: STOP LYING ABOUT ME!  I do not forgive any pedophiles.Nov 04 22:44
MinceRonce humanity gets what they're fighting for, they'll die outNov 04 22:44
msb_Also Iceland has jailed its criminal banksters, and Syria and Greece are opposing debt slavery.Nov 04 22:48
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msb_As to marxism, some form of democratic socialism, e.g., worker-owned companies, a huge tax on wealth, etc., NOT classical Marxism with its "vanguard party", is necessary to repair the enormous maldistribution of wealth and power in capitalism.Nov 04 23:00
msb_Also, as technology more and more replaces human labor, it's necessary to deal with the resulting reduction in the number of jobs.  Job sharing, a very short work week, etc., all with no reduction in pay.Nov 04 23:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Guile 2.1.1 released [beta]Nov 04 23:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Guile 2.1.1 released [beta] | Tux MachinesNov 04 23:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Linux creator Linus Torvalds blasts Kernel developer's work in choicest abuseNov 05 04:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Drop Ubuntu Software CenterNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 for GNOME Software https://t.co/bCyYTVj2tSNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 05 04:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Drop Ubuntu Software Center for GNOME Software - SoftpediaNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xiaomi Will Start Selling Two Linux Laptops InNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 2016 https://t.co/jXjDbKSGIu (hacked.news)Nov 05 04:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacked.news | Xiaomi Will Start Selling Two Linux Laptops In 2016 • Hacked NewsNov 05 04:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/662206260113113088Nov 05 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: It's taking too fucking long for this to happen https://t.co/F5nmMVH3JvNov 05 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Try To Be Python-3-Only, No #Python 2 By Default https://t.co/Sdkjp5dFKV #gnu #linuxNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vinux 5.0 releasedNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WrTfMFG0ml (groups.google.com)Nov 05 04:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groups.google.com | Google GroupsNov 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora Developer Portal Officially OpensNov 05 05:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/11BzXeCDyt (www.phoronix.com)Nov 05 05:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora Developer Portal Officially Opens - PhoronixNov 05 05:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XQt 0.10 Released!Nov 05 05:07
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/MJo8wRVimt (lxqt.org)Nov 05 05:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD Already Has AMDGPU DRM Fixes Queued Up ForNov 05 05:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.4 https://t.co/TQbFiGVM4jNov 05 05:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Already Has AMDGPU DRM Fixes Queued Up For Linux 4.4 - PhoronixNov 05 05:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Call for new Plasma wallpapers contributionNov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eSEqWn18moNov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (kdeonlinux.wordpress.com)Nov 05 05:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdeonlinux.wordpress.com | Call for new Plasma wallpapers contribution | KDE and LINUXNov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I hope to see distributions to pick up theNov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 work and provide a Plasma phone spin."Nov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3jmusASOszNov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.martin-graesslin.com)Nov 05 05:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.martin-graesslin.com | Upgrading libhybris | Martin's BlogNov 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) DesktopNov 05 05:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshots TourNov 05 05:29
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/SIn9wdWvjC (www.ubuntugeek.com)Nov 05 05:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntugeek.com | Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) Desktop Screenshots Tour | Ubuntu GeekNov 05 05:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6782115Nov 05 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why an iPhone user switched to Android after six years http://www.itworld.com/article/3000803/android/why-a-user-switched-to-android-after-six-years-of-iphones.htmlNov 05 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com | Why an iPhone user switched to Android after six years | ITworldNov 05 05:40
schestowitz"https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2015/11/04/trojanized-adware/ "Nov 05 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.lookout.com | Lookout discovers new trojanized adware; 20K popular apps caught in the crossfire | Lookout BlogNov 05 05:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6782115Nov 05 05:43
schestowitz""Why, Roy?"Nov 05 05:43
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schestowitz"Nov 05 05:52
schestowitzA comment referring to your recent article:Nov 05 05:52
schestowitz"More European Politicians Take on the EPO for Ignoring the Rule of Law"Nov 05 05:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2015/11/03/eu-politicians-vs-epo-again/Nov 05 05:52
schestowitz'Nov 05 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More European Politicians Take on the EPO for Ignoring the Rule of Law | TechrightsNov 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why an iPhone user switched to Android afterNov 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines                 six years https://t.co/daGN3L1OkNNov 05 05:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Grow Home From Ubisoft Looks Like It Will ComeNov 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines                 To Linux https://t.co/eEf5oJX0CENov 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Nov 05 05:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Grow Home From Ubisoft Looks Like It Will Come To Linux | GamingOnLinuxNov 05 05:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software https://t.co/I3rPMOvmlINov 05 05:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesNov 05 05:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6781074Nov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #redhat site still throws around a meaningless (or ambiguous) buzzword to bamboozle the non-technical target audience https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2015/10/you-ve-gone-devops-what-about-your-systems-integratorNov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> enterprisersproject.com | You’ve gone DevOps, but what about your systems integrator? | The Enterprisers ProjectNov 05 06:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6781160Nov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Software patents have also been a sticking point. Red Hat..no indication whether this extends to partner ecosystems" http://www.infoworld.com/article/3001554/open-source-tools/red-hat-and-microsoft-cozy-up-in-the-azure-cloud.htmlNov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Red Hat and Microsoft cozy up in the Azure cloud | InfoWorldNov 05 06:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6780135Nov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #microsoft #azure #redhat #rhel has back doors and built-in file-by-file #surveillance so #security not applicable https://securityblog.redhat.com/2015/11/04/risk-report-update-april-to-october-2015/Nov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2015/11/04/risk-report-update-april-to-october-2015/ )Nov 05 06:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6780623Nov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Latest Propaganda From Benoît #Battistelli is Promotion of the Unitary Patent (UPC) at Political Levels http://techrights.org/2015/11/04/battistelli-politician-or-lobbyist/ #epo #upcNov 05 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Latest Propaganda From Benoît Battistelli is Promotion of the Unitary Patent (UPC) at Political Levels | TechrightsNov 05 06:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/662228185862533120Nov 05 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Is it?Nov 05 06:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Initiative launches free webinarNov 05 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 series https://t.co/kaku4zAne3Nov 05 06:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Initiative launches free webinar series | Tux MachinesNov 05 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/NqUdRVeo6jNov 05 06:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesNov 05 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Move over FireFox OS and BlackBerry, Tizen isNov 05 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 now the Fourth Largest Smartphone OS in Q3 2015Nov 05 06:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Move over FireFox OS and BlackBerry, Tizen is now the Fourth Largest Smartphone OS in Q3 2015 | Tux MachinesNov 05 06:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 42 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSesNov 05 06:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Tx9dqch6Pc (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 05 06:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 42 Arrives in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesNov 05 06:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6777516Nov 05 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After bombing the * out of #libya we'll pretend to teach them #democracy http://www.ibtimes.com/us-consulting-firm-builds-open-source-mobile-voter-registration-system-libya-2167475 http://wraltechwire.com/durham-based-development-firm-caktus-group-open-sources-voter-registration-software/15057853/ #openwashingNov 05 07:14
schestowitz"@Infirit the only thing I see at the link you provided is a lot of controversy about e-voting in the spirited discussion below the video. In that respect, your “BAD idea” summary is extremely presumptuous."Nov 05 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com | US Consulting Firm Builds Open Source Mobile Voter Registration System For LibyaNov 05 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> wraltechwire.com | Durham-based development firm Caktus Group open sources voter registration software :: Editor's Blog at WRAL TechWireNov 05 07:14
schestowitz"Any system that is not anonymous and not on paper is a BAD idea."Nov 05 07:14
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmINov 05 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Why Electronic Voting is a BAD Idea - Computerphile - YouTubeNov 05 07:14
schestowitz"Please, please, no more world saving from the USA!"Nov 05 07:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6782025Nov 05 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #US Presidential Candidate Jill Stein: I Want to Be President to Save the World http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Jill-Stein-I-Want-to-Be-US-President-to-Save-the-World-20151103-0019.htmlNov 05 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telesurtv.net | Jill Stein: I Want to Be US President to Save the World | Opinion | teleSUR EnglishNov 05 07:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     More Information Emerges About theNov 05 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft-Red Hat Patent AgreementNov 05 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lXWMuRfLxI (techrights.org)Nov 05 08:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @FadiSemaan followed @tuxmachinesNov 05 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Information Emerges About the Microsoft-Red Hat Patent Agreement | TechrightsNov 05 08:55
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MinceRzoobab_: pingNov 05 10:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Unity 7 to Support SnappyNov 05 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Packages https://t.co/dicb0XUM8hNov 05 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Unity 7 to Support Snappy Packages | Tux MachinesNov 05 11:14
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schestowitzzoobab_: pingNov 05 13:29
schestowitzzoobab_: thanks for the message, so much has been happening in EU regarding patentsNov 05 13:29
MinceRhttp://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/30/us/kim-davis-pope/index.htmlNov 05 13:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/662274652669104129Nov 05 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Kim Davis met with Pope Francis - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/o8mok ]Nov 05 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz Why are #Brits so hungry for #Privacy #rape Are they going to loose another #colony? #data 12 #months https://t.co/CiF05Eiul9Nov 05 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.com | Details of UK website visits 'to be stored for year' - BBC NewsNov 05 13:33
schestowitzzoobab_: I read your feed every dayNov 05 13:33
schestowitznot been much there recentlyNov 05 13:33
MinceRjust something about a particular marxist a local marxist loves very muchNov 05 13:33
schestowitzI've come to depend on you for updates regarding Europe, since the Digital Minority days and beforehand, so please keep it upNov 05 13:34
schestowitzwe might need mirroring of articles in the futureNov 05 13:34
schestowitzbecause of takedown threats (when they happen, it helps to deter against these)Nov 05 13:34
schestowitzMinceR: I didn't know who Kim Davis isNov 05 13:35
schestowitzbased on the headline, it might be some big name , which would make me feel dumbNov 05 13:35
schestowitzAnyway, Franic is just a stoogeNov 05 13:35
MinceRthe fascist christian fundamentalist bitch who's a public official but refuses to do her jobNov 05 13:36
schestowitzsome harmful things, some benign, like talks about global warmingNov 05 13:36
MinceRwhen it comes to issuing marriage licenses to homosexual couplesNov 05 13:36
schestowitzCatholic Conservatives are harmed by this, they can't deny global warming with impunityNov 05 13:36
MinceRfrank just tries to put a nicer face on an ancient evil cult that's just as evil as everNov 05 13:36
schestowitzyeahNov 05 13:36
MinceRthey'd assert themselves more heavily if they still had the power they used to haveNov 05 13:36
schestowitzafter they had a pedo scandalNov 05 13:36
MinceRand the way things are going, they willNov 05 13:36
schestowitzand mr hitler youth had to step down for PRNov 05 13:37
schestowitzMinceR: they have a big market shareNov 05 13:37
MinceRyeahNov 05 13:37
schestowitzwhere europeans occupied populationsNov 05 13:37
schestowitzmostly south america, some islands in asia, and parts of africaNov 05 13:37
schestowitzthat's where the raving "fans" areNov 05 13:37
MinceRand their favorite virus, HIVNov 05 13:38
schestowitzthat's also where they make lots of babies and kill over religious issues, take things to the extreme sometimesNov 05 13:38
schestowitzand are anti contraception, anti-homosexuals, etc.Nov 05 13:38
schestowitzbut anyway, this is a technical channelNov 05 13:38
schestowitzlet's not go into itNov 05 13:38
schestowitzthe article you posted is too old for including in daily linksNov 05 13:39
schestowitz(i would have otherwiseNov 05 13:39
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schestowitz> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/gates-foundation-without-bill-philanthropicNov 05 13:51
schestowitzI think you forgot the "X". this is a terrible puff pieces from a paper that Gates PAYS.Nov 05 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Would the Gates Foundation do more good without Bill? | Linsey McGoey | Comment is free | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/o8ms4 ]Nov 05 13:51
cubexyzwould the world do better without Bill? :)Nov 05 13:51
MinceRcertainlyNov 05 13:53
MinceReven better without all the people like himNov 05 13:53
MinceRalso wouldn't be so hellishly overcrowdedNov 05 13:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662342060888883200Nov 05 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Bill Gates, SOCIALIST, https://t.co/eGNxNX1nqG admits he INVENTED nothing & relied on US gov. deals for survival of Microsoft.Nov 05 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theatlantic.com | An Interview with Bill Gates on the Future of Energy - The AtlanticNov 05 13:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662342635227496448Nov 05 13:59
MinceRother "socialists" did the sameNov 05 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz ~2003 at coffee shop, met supplier to Navy: & alarmed to learn he sold them Windows (known 2 B full of holes) @SwiftOnSecurityNov 05 13:59
schestowitzlike oligarchs close to USSR Power circles, Gates has connections through his parentsNov 05 14:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662343425405005824Nov 05 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz In 2000, at Savoy, London, had tea beside chief Microsoft marketers 4 UK: Noted how aloof they were, in a SOFT world their own.Nov 05 14:01
cubexyzI blame educators for why things got so bad with MicrosoftNov 05 14:01
cubexyzat least partiallyNov 05 14:01
cubexyzit's true that Microsoft weaseled it's way into schools but the educators and administrators let it happenNov 05 14:02
schestowitzyeah, marketing lobbying and bribesNov 05 14:02
abeNd-orgper edu that sounds more like apple in the school districts ive worked atNov 05 14:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662344773705969665Nov 05 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Pierre Jovanovic (Fr.journo) told me ~1990 interviewed Bill & confronted him w/report his Mother did inside-deal IBM https://t.co/InVH83gvOrNov 05 14:07
schestowitzwowNov 05 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: .@FrancisJeffrey7 like oligarchs close to USSR Power circles, Gates has connections through his parentsNov 05 14:07
cubexyzyes in the United States Apple II was in a lot of schoolsNov 05 14:07
abeNd-orgthey are always willing to pour tons of taxpayer money into the latest ipads even after students continue to steal them, always buying bigger screen imacs, etcNov 05 14:08
cubexyzand the weak willed OEMsNov 05 14:10
cubexyzI can't count on Dell very muchNov 05 14:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662347639623577600Nov 05 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Google search: Inquiry into the Existence of Guardian Angels, & francis jeffrey & acknowledgements (~dates our communications)Nov 05 14:17
cubexyzAT&T actually did make a nice Unix computer early on that was sort of affordableNov 05 14:18
cubexyzthe AT&T 3B1 with an MFM hard drive, for about $4kNov 05 14:18
cubexyzreleased in 1984... a real collectors piece nowNov 05 14:19
cubexyzit was an 'affordable' Unix box at least compared to the PDP-11sNov 05 14:19
cubexyzand of course there was Atari ST, Amiga, etcNov 05 14:20
cubexyzAmiga even made a Unix System V box called the Amiga 3000UXNov 05 14:20
cubexyzthat was first released back in 1990Nov 05 14:22
cubexyzand technically one could have walked into a Radio Shack in 1985 and bought a TRS-890 Model 16 for $4699 to run XenixNov 05 14:23
cubexyzso in some ways, our current situation is a regression for Unix based computersNov 05 14:23
cubexyzin the hobbyist world, *nix is doing fine... in the OEM world it's stalledNov 05 14:24
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schestowitz> ? http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907Nov 05 14:24
schestowitzI don't want to entertain this agenda anymore. Waste of resources...Nov 05 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | From kafkatrap to honeytrapNov 05 14:24
cubexyzI'll stick to technical subjects :)Nov 05 14:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/662350101986172928Nov 05 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: When it comes to #copyright, even VPN isn't safe. https://t.co/rkTZZ50MMLNov 05 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #MPAA Can Access #PopcornTime Services & VPN, Court Rules https://t.co/BFzPCNwaqE the moment you realise #copyright giants run the systemNov 05 14:26
schestowitzBecause terrorism?Nov 05 14:26
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cubexyzswitching to modern mode here is what Los Alamos Computers is selling for Linux computers:Nov 05 14:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/662350669886582784Nov 05 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz Because money. Because capitalism. (Which is what calls to arms over terrorism were to start with)Nov 05 14:30
cubexyzhttp://laclinux.com/en/StartNov 05 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-laclinux.com | Los Alamos Computers: High-Performance Linux ComputingNov 05 14:30
cubexyzthe local brick and mortar computer stores are pretty bad so assembling your own box is probably still the best route for desktopNov 05 14:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/662352664496214016Nov 05 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: @schestowitz ...and *they're* about to get E-E-E'd by Microsoft!Nov 05 14:37
schestowitz(red Hat)Nov 05 14:37
cubexyzwow, I hope notNov 05 14:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6782025Nov 05 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #US Presidential Candidate Jill Stein: I Want to Be President to Save the World http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Jill-Stein-I-Want-to-Be-US-President-to-Save-the-World-20151103-0019.htmlNov 05 14:49
schestowitz"I support the motion.'Nov 05 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telesurtv.net | Jill Stein: I Want to Be US President to Save the World | Opinion | teleSUR English [ http://ur1.ca/o8n2t ]Nov 05 14:49
schestowitzI think Stein wants to help the world in the climate sense...Nov 05 14:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6783591Nov 05 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #theGuardian which took money (arguably bribe) from #billgates for puff pieces is still at it http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/gates-foundation-without-bill-philanthropic http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueNov 05 14:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6783601Nov 05 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Everything you can do with an iPhone was government-funded. ... all of these things were funded by Uncle Sam ..." http://www.salon.com/2015/11/04/5_things_that_wouldnt_be_happening_if_america_were_a_functioning_democracy_partner/Nov 05 14:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/musevg/status/662359385260335104Nov 05 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@musevg: @schestowitz It's not that difficult: Fedora is more fashionable… and has far shorter release cycles. So you see your work in action soonerNov 05 15:07
schestowitzDebian has derivatives that have 6-month releases as wellNov 05 15:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662362001444700160Nov 05 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Will Mr. Bill make as big a mess of Climate as he did of software? $ TALKS https://t.co/eGNxNX1nqG https://t.co/xaWBnkutYlNov 05 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theatlantic.com | An Interview with Bill Gates on the Future of Energy - The AtlanticNov 05 15:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/662364603796447232Nov 05 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: How the World's s/w & networks got to be how we find them today: https://t.co/AsJmXpJzoe https://t.co/MhEPUUsbGz https://t.co/1wRAiYELM6Nov 05 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cryptostorm_is: This is the single the best summation of 20 years of internet privacy & security progress we've read in... forever: https://t.co/65NfYSCaL6Nov 05 15:28
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XRevan86http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2015-11-05-mate-1-12-releasedNov 05 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mate-desktop.org | MATE 1.12 released | MATE [ http://ur1.ca/o8ncs ]Nov 05 15:38
XRevan86MinceR: You're not against MATE, are you?Nov 05 15:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/662366392763609089Nov 05 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz well he talks about disruption and innovative technology, but this is not what RHEL is about: outdated software.Nov 05 15:39
XRevan86(it originates from code made by Mono founder and current OS X used – Miguel de Icaza)Nov 05 15:39
schestowitzXRevan86: thanks for the headsupNov 05 15:39
schestowitzXRevan86: mate  isn't any more troublesome than gnome itselfNov 05 15:40
XRevan86schestowitz: I was just being petty.Nov 05 15:40
XRevan86I use and like MATE.Nov 05 15:41
cubexyzUnix traditionalists are rare :)Nov 05 15:43
XRevan86… and maintain, so I'll soon be very busy :)Nov 05 15:45
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/auxesis/status/662230288441847809Nov 05 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@auxesis: When I stop paying attention to how config management is running on my servers https://t.co/mULUakdQIzNov 05 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@auxesis: When I stop paying attention to how config management is running on my servers https://t.co/mULUakdQIzNov 05 16:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/662389736615579648Nov 05 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@haniefhaider: @schestowitz Eliyahu Goldratt 'The Goal' fashionable among a certain generation of managers here in Cape Town.Ram Charan Bossidy ChristensenNov 05 17:09
MinceRXRevan86: i don't particularly care either wayNov 05 17:20
MinceRit's a gnome2 fork so it can't be too goodNov 05 17:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wowbagger999/status/662396878923964416 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/662397067281715201Nov 05 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wowbagger999: @glynmoody @schestowitz #TTIP #TPP & Co seem infected with some kind of #ACTA bachdoor. We should delete them and reboot our systems!Nov 05 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @wowbagger999 @schestowitz more than that: some of the text has probably been copied and pasted - it was in CETANov 05 17:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6784111Nov 05 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The @LinuxFoundation throws its weight behind open APIs http://www.infoworld.com/article/3001227/apis/linux-foundation-throws-weight-behind-open-apis.html #linuxNov 05 18:09
schestowitz"Open API is very importante!'Nov 05 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Linux Foundation throws its weight behind open APIs | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/o8o3l ]Nov 05 18:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6784204Nov 05 18:10
schestowitz"Mepis Antix my favourite distro for Old machines"Nov 05 18:10
schestowitz"Tried it a few times and installed it on my mother in laws PC. It was nice enough but I was never a KDE fan. Mepis seemed to miss its target a bit which is unfortunate, it seemed like it was going to take the torch from Mandrake, but then Ubuntu took on that role and Mepis was left out in the cold."Nov 05 18:10
schestowitzSeems soNov 05 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Nov 05 18:10
cubexyzfor very old use BL3Nov 05 18:23
cubexyzfor kind of old alpine or vector, but there's lots of choicesNov 05 18:24
cubexyzAntiX is good tooNov 05 18:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662395285948276736Nov 05 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Drawpile 1.0.2 Has Been Released https://t.co/e3WlNJJM1H #freeswNov 05 18:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662415918316789760Nov 05 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Embedding QML: Why, Where, and How https://t.co/h9tYzgxedG #kde #qt #freesw #kdabNov 05 18:47
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schestowitzSo quietly I've just reached 3,500 followers in Twitter (similar number in Diaspora), without cheating or buying 'followers' (as some do)Nov 05 18:48
XFaCEschestowitz: including the amazing athiestNov 05 18:51
XFaCE*atheistNov 05 18:51
XFaCEschestowitz: how did you manage to get TJ sub'd to you? :PNov 05 18:51
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schestowitzhe sometimes retweets meNov 05 20:03
schestowitzI like his channel too, but haven't watched it in years (used to regularly)Nov 05 20:04
schestowitzAlso TJDoesLifeNov 05 20:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/MillionMaskMarch?src=trenNov 05 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | News about #MillionMaskMarch on TwitterNov 05 21:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JamiaStarheart/status/662445042058031104Nov 05 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamiaStarheart: RT @JamesFTInternet: Shutting down #Monsanto Headquarters in DC #MillionMaskMarch https://t.co/mOXFy2cSCmNov 05 21:00
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schestowitzXFaCE: canada too https://twitter.com/CrowdhNews/status/662438442824032256Nov 05 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CrowdhNews: MONTREAL: The #MillionMaskMarch is now underway! #MMM https://t.co/O299N7fUTQNov 05 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CrowdhNews: MONTREAL: The #MillionMaskMarch is now underway! #MMM https://t.co/O299N7fUTQNov 05 21:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JamieLeeBrett/status/662436370087026688Nov 05 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamieLeeBrett: Don't judge the protest on actions of a few but the intention of many who are trying to start positive change. #MillionMaskMarchNov 05 21:01
XFaCEschestowitz: on the NZ, there over 9000 PDFs (exaggeration) of TPP documentsNov 05 21:25
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CollChris/status/662466852967198720Nov 06 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CollChris: Same in US.. @Snowden showed and court ruled unlawful NSA spying. Govt now tries to make the crime legal with #CISA. https://t.co/85AHEOxLi8Nov 06 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ed @snowden put out there #gchq documents to document crime, whereupon GCHQ was found guilty in #uk but rather than jail, Tories legalise itNov 06 02:21
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schestowitzXFaCE: wow!Nov 06 07:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/662600466589700096Nov 06 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz I'm concerned RH in bed with MS, another Novell in the making ???Nov 06 07:05
schestowitzNo, very different circumstances. Same for Nokia.Nov 06 07:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/662552420300361728   https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/662414953601740800   https://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/662450227236892673   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662567637986185216Nov 06 07:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: Microsoft does *not* love Linux. They will only do what is necessary to stay relevant https://t.co/YVKjeMlVj0Nov 06 07:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662567897630449664   https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/662560675097653248   https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/662435748570906625   https://twitter.com/MeirionTweets/status/662564016204681216   https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/662382139309203461Nov 06 07:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Links 5/11/2015: Framing Linus Torvalds, NetBeans IDE 8.1 https://t.co/bBy7J0jBUoNov 06 07:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ghabuntu: Media Coverage of the Red Hat-Microsoft Deal Includes Microsoft Talking Points and Moles, No Discussion About ... https://t.co/Q1zbO6oFS1Nov 06 07:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Red Hat proliferates and controls systemd while using opensource dot com as a front for their corporate propaganda" https://t.co/enGU3FhklJNov 06 07:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Redhat lost me when they agreed to support MS secure/crippled boot a few years ago." https://t.co/enGU3FhklJ https://t.co/qBkwRQKxS3Nov 06 07:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: The TPP chaoter on software is basically trumping licences like the GPL with contract law. Am I right? https://t.co/hHSLJZsQDtNov 06 07:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Today in Techrights https://t.co/F35cBUyxprNov 06 07:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MeirionTweets: Man who doesn't get Evolution 2nd in running for GOP candidacy & then there's the pyramids - Nurse! #Election2016 https://t.co/AYzoUWGebVNov 06 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Salon: Ben Carson’s bizarro-world pyramid madness: This is why evangelicals adore him, and everyone else will find him nuts https://t.co/o1pi0VQRabNov 06 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Next PopcornTime version will multiplex 100 TOR circuits over MultipathTCP. Voila, problem solved.Nov 06 07:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/662378315068653568   https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/662424633753382912   https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/662436618205179905   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662585913629913088   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662586195231248384   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662590925009457152Nov 06 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: So-Called ‘Trade’ Treaties Like #TPP and #TTIP Threaten to Legalise #swpats in #Europe and Effectively Ban FOSS https://t.co/BFXSnI32dWNov 06 07:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662591117859360768  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662597762068971520 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662599611459203072  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662599858033991680Nov 06 07:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Intellectual Ventures was conceived by a Microsoft executive, Nathan Myhrvold" https://t.co/nQMT98VFn5 #microsoft #IntellectualVenturesNov 06 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #IPKat Bemoans Crushing of the EPO’s Boards by an Increasingly Paranoid #EPO Management https://t.co/BaCmuhgxZR h/t @fosspatentsNov 06 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 19,437 blog posts in #techrights at the moment, so 19.5k expected this month and 20k next year. #epo in focus ATM https://t.co/CMIUWvePoBNov 06 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: SUSE's #patent deal with #microsoft is running out this year (2 months left). Will be interesting to see what happens upon expiry. #novellNov 06 07:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/662603526179303424Nov 06 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Gonna read your article, to get the gist of it.Nov 06 07:13
schestowitzI wrote 4 articles about the Red Hat deal http://techrights.org/2015/11/05/microsoft-red-hat-patent-agreement/  http://techrights.org/2015/11/04/red-hat-sells-out/  http://techrights.org/2015/11/04/red-hat-deal-with-microsoft/  http://techrights.org/2015/11/05/garbage-media-coverage/Nov 06 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat Sells Out With a Microsoft Patent Deal | TechrightsNov 06 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat’s Deal With Microsoft Resurrects Fears of Software Patents Against GNU/Linux and Introduces ‘Triple-Dipping’ of Fees | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o8qq7 ]Nov 06 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Coverage of the Red Hat-Microsoft Deal Includes Microsoft Talking Points and Moles, No Discussion About Patent Aspects | TechrightsNov 06 07:14
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2015/11/05/microsoft-red-hat-patent-agreement/ Nov 06 07:15
schestowitzodd, it doesn't pick it upNov 06 07:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/662603810490195969Nov 06 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Btw, did you read this: https://t.co/0xugFqBbkI ??? A very good analysis of the sad state of affairs in Linux development.Nov 06 07:16
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schestowitzI saw that a while back...Nov 06 07:16
schestowitz> By the way, DN will have an allegedly exclusive interview with EdwardNov 06 07:33
schestowitz> Snowden published at 14:00 UTC:Nov 06 07:33
schestowitz> Nov 06 07:33
schestowitz> http://www.dn.se/Nov 06 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dn.se | Nyheter - DN.SENov 06 07:33
schestowitz> Nov 06 07:33
schestowitz> I'll be offline around then for a while but you might want to check itNov 06 07:33
schestowitz> out.  It might be in Swedish but Google translate does a fairly good jobNov 06 07:33
schestowitz> of translating it.  Hopefully they link to the original in English.Nov 06 07:33
schestowitzWhether live or offline, in the form of articles with sound bites, it ought to be OK. I think Denmark is used for data collection from the East, just like Sweden and to a lesser degree (due to fear of restriction from Putin) Finland.Nov 06 07:33
schestowitzSnowden didn't write anything in Twitter yesterday, so he might be preparing for something or working on something. His feed wasn't so bad as it helped tackle UK repressions this week.Nov 06 07:33
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msb_Excellent analysis of Syria situation and US policy.  youtube-dl gets it.  https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/321020-syrian-peace-talk-conflict/Nov 06 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | US in stupor, doesn't know what to do or even what it wants in Syria - MidEast studies academic RT — SophieCoNov 06 09:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrianPardy/status/662646071521341440Nov 06 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrianPardy: @schestowitz @tekcurmudgeon The sick part is when UEFI is done right and users can use their own keys to sign OS, it's VERY user enabling.Nov 06 10:03
schestowitzIf only every machine was configured this way out of the OEM...Nov 06 10:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/662646215193051136Nov 06 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz It's a butt actually, hearts look different. Probably some kind of gayonising Twitter, as surveillance incorporated long ago.Nov 06 10:04
schestowitzit still gets worseNov 06 10:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/662646734619832320Nov 06 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @schestowitz many thanks for thatNov 06 10:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrianPardy/status/662647302222401536Nov 06 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrianPardy: @schestowitz @tekcurmudgeon It takes a lot of research to find something that allows the choice going into a purchase. But when it works? 👍Nov 06 10:08
schestowitzIt wasn't designed to put control at the user's endNov 06 10:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/662648516276277249Nov 06 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: @schestowitz Yep - Twitter quite buggy in Firefox, but works fine in webkit-based browsers - most probably intentional.Nov 06 10:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/662652688841199616Nov 06 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz esp. when they can extend patent $$$ life by alternate #indicated purposeNov 06 10:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IPDealmakers/status/662656505234239489Nov 06 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IPDealmakers: @schestowitz 11 of America's top inventors work with IV. Edward Jung is one of them. What's your definition of a patent troll?Nov 06 10:44
schestowitzIV is a textbook definition of it, and it has 1000 satellite entitiesNov 06 10:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IPDealmakers/status/662662329583190017Nov 06 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IPDealmakers: @schestowitz Doesn't really answer the question. So having satellite entities makes one a patent troll?Nov 06 11:35
schestowitzNo, being a patent troll makes one a patent troll. Having 1000-2000 satellite proxies makes one the biggest patent troll.Nov 06 11:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/662667864936218624Nov 06 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz I was trying to come up with a witty response yet all I have got is wtf, why are there so many morons on earth?!Nov 06 11:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/662661304776310784Nov 06 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: TechRights: Media Coverage of the Red Hat-MSFT Deal Includes [..] No Discussion About Patent Aspects https://t.co/cJ0xmU9OWH by @schestowitzNov 06 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Media Coverage of the Red Hat-Microsoft Deal Includes Microsoft Talking Points and Moles, No Discussion About Patent Aspects | TechrightsNov 06 11:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/IPDealmakers/status/662674145881292801Nov 06 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IPDealmakers: @schestowitz So still no answer then. https://t.co/yCM0KFQvQbNov 06 11:55
schestowitzIt's like talking to a deafNov 06 11:55
schestowitzand the paper you link you I responded to in http://techrights.org/2015/09/10/propagandists-for-swpats/ background in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/David_KapposNov 06 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | David Kappos From IBM and the USPTO is Still Lobbying for Software Patents, This Time With a New Glorified ‘Paper’ | TechrightsNov 06 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | David Kappos - TechrightsNov 06 11:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/662675261125730304Nov 06 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz @IPDealmakers 1000's of shell companies is typical Patent Troll business structureNov 06 11:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6786049Nov 06 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ciapost wants us to think #gnu #linux not secure and #torvalds a bad person http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-insecurity-the-kernel-of-the-argument/ More gunning for Linus.Nov 06 12:36
schestowitz"Nov 06 12:36
schestowitzThe article would’ve make some sense if dealing with closed source propietary software, but not FLOSS. Possibly it tries to exploit readers that are not aware that anyone who has the desire and knowledge to modify, enhance and redistribute the results of the software (with another name for it) can do it without the blessing of Torvalds.Nov 06 12:36
schestowitzI am not a programmer, but I still can say that most of the “complaints” here could be solved by forking or patching linux, etc. That’s the real magic behind FLOSS, right. If those alternatives are not popular yet is because servers and systems administrator do not think of it as better alternatives, yet. Demonizing Torvalds because of his approach on coding one of the most successful and trusted pieces of software to date is plainly Nov 06 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The kernel of the argument over Linux’s vulnerabilities | The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/o8nwo ]Nov 06 12:36
schestowitzridiculous.Nov 06 12:36
schestowitz"Nov 06 12:36
schestowitz"Payed by Microsoft or the NSA to discredit Linux."Nov 06 12:36
schestowitz"He contributed to the Post’s Pulitzer Prize-winning coverage of the NSA." https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/craig-timbergNov 06 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Craig Timberg - The Washington PostNov 06 12:37
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Joel__HiNov 06 15:30
Joel__How do I contact Dr. Roy Schestowitz?Nov 06 15:31
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cubexyzso impatientNov 06 15:31
XRevan8610 secondsNov 06 15:33
MinceR:DNov 06 15:33
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lirodonokay, so some people seem to disagree about the intent of that supposed TPP thing regarding source codeNov 06 16:11
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cubexyzok, this is rather out of date but here is the startup sequence for award bios:Nov 06 16:48
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/award-bios-startup.txtNov 06 16:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/georgebaily/status/662946457322942464Nov 07 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@georgebaily: @schestowitz "this guy has a non approved OS on his laptop, he could be a mentalist, haul him out!"Nov 07 05:58
schestowitz> http://www.wired.com/2015/11/null/Nov 07 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Hello, I'm Mr. Null. My Name Makes Me Invisible to Computers | WIREDNov 07 06:07
schestowitz> Nov 07 06:07
schestowitz> A fellow with the last name of 'O' broke our administrative database aNov 07 06:07
schestowitz> long time ago.  The programmers had decided that no last names could beNov 07 06:07
schestowitz> shorter than two letters.Nov 07 06:07
schestowitzWhat kind of constraint was that? Doesn't seem justified. Was it a schema issue of underlying DB issue? Or software that's off-the-shelf and proprietary?Nov 07 06:07
amarsh04how do they handle people with only one name?Nov 07 06:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2E0EOL/status/662950388979605504Nov 07 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@2E0EOL: @schestowitz Fuzz testing is the future! Nobody wants to invest the time though, so systems will continue to be broken by designNov 07 06:14
schestowitzJust needs lots of computing power, some false positives to spend time onNov 07 06:14
amarsh04had a kernel bug hit me on this machine, bisected it and the offending commit was by the same person who had broken a scsi driver on this machine previouslyNov 07 06:15
amarsh04it took me a while to be polite in my bug reportNov 07 06:15
schestowitz[11:10] <amarsh04> how do they handle people with only one name?Nov 07 06:15
schestowitzWhich countries have such a policy? Native Americans maybe?Nov 07 06:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2E0EOL/status/662952128311402497Nov 07 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@2E0EOL: @schestowitz Computing power, true but not as expensive as the time needed to construct useful tests? I use Test::LectroTest, it's OK.Nov 07 06:18
amarsh04Indonesians often only have one nameNov 07 06:20
amarsh04but there have been a few in Australia, so when I worked at the University of Adelaide we had to cope with that when assigning staff email addressesNov 07 06:21
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schestowitzamarsh04: I didn't know this about IndonesiansNov 07 07:45
schestowitzi know that in Vietnam the surname diversity is extremely lowNov 07 07:45
schestowitzmore so than in China and neighbours, Nov 07 07:45
schestowitzlike CJKNov 07 07:45
schestowitzParks and Kim are common in KoreaNov 07 07:45
schestowitzthe surname distribution in Taiwan is also quite amazingly lowNov 07 07:45
schestowitzI think that nygyum or whatever it is in Vietnam is the surname of (IIRC) 60% of people?Nov 07 07:46
amarsh04yes, something like thatNov 07 07:47
schestowitzplagiarism https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/662978608017838080Nov 07 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @MariusNestor https://t.co/5GAup2REH6 kill the buggerNov 07 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techfrag.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Bringing New SMS, Telephony Apps - TechFragNov 07 08:03
schestowitzRazvan is also feeling lazy today http://linuxg.net/ubuntu-16-04-will-ship-with-a-redesigned-usb-startup-creater-tool/Nov 07 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 508 @ http://linuxg.net/ubuntu-16-04-will-ship-with-a-redesigned-usb-startup-creater-tool/ )Nov 07 08:04
schestowitzThey're copying softpediaNov 07 08:05
schestowitzripoff artistsNov 07 08:05
MinceRNguyen?Nov 07 08:58
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/SP5KJdM.jpgNov 07 08:58
XRevan86feeeeelingsNov 07 08:59
XRevan86Can one rape a man that way?Nov 07 08:59
XRevan86or a catNov 07 09:00
XRevan86through InternetNov 07 09:00
XRevan86Does one have to do anything to rape?Nov 07 09:04
MinceRto make SJWs scream "rape"? no.Nov 07 09:05
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2012-10-21Nov 07 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com | Dilbert Comic Strip on 2012-10-21 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsNov 07 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663004006231506946Nov 07 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz I told you so, it' s no longer GNU/Linux, it' s RH/Lennix. We' re like the frog in the pan, slowly cooking and unaware.Nov 07 09:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/663004517265444864Nov 07 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Bitnami is good, servers in a package.Nov 07 09:48
XFaCEyo royNov 07 09:57
XFaCEschestowitz: look at this garbageNov 07 09:57
XFaCEhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-insecurity-the-kernel-of-the-argument/Nov 07 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The kernel of the argument over Linux’s vulnerabilities | The Washington PostNov 07 09:57
MinceRjournalism is deadNov 07 09:57
XFaCEone page of drivel, quoting... Matthew GarrettNov 07 09:57
XFaCEand also blaming Ashley Madison on Linux even though they admit that linux wasn't at fault in that situationNov 07 09:58
XFaCEin other words, they're like "Here's an example that's not really an example"Nov 07 09:58
MinceRgarrett is attacking linux because he's butthurt because they didn't merge his stupid securelevel interfaceNov 07 09:59
XFaCEschestowitz: noting further that all this is coming out after that "honeypot" allegationNov 07 10:00
XFaCEand of course that mis-reported Sarah Sharpe/Matthew Garrett tantrumingNov 07 10:00
schestowitzLOL, coming from a Microsoft guy: https://twitter.com/GaborFari/status/663007802420367360Nov 07 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaborFari: @WinObs Look at what this idiot wrote: https://t.co/LhGO1bpGKM Makes a living being a troll, I guess. But it must be a meager living.Nov 07 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The ‘Microsoft Loves Linux’ Baloney is Still Being Floated in the Media While Microsoft Attacks Linux With Patents, New Lawsuits Reported | TechrightsNov 07 10:01
schestowitzNot pointing out errors, just upset about itNov 07 10:02
schestowitz[14:58] <XFaCE> and also blaming Ashley Madison on Linux even though they admit that linux wasn't at fault in that situationNov 07 10:02
schestowitzWindows networkNov 07 10:02
schestowitzI wrote about thatNov 07 10:02
schestowitzat least one articleNov 07 10:02
schestowitzthey got their windows domain passwordsNov 07 10:02
MinceRnow you can write about washington post :>Nov 07 10:02
schestowitz[14:59] <MinceR> garrett is attacking linux because he's butthurt because they didn't merge his stupid securelevel interfaceNov 07 10:03
schestowitzThey did merge his UEFI crapNov 07 10:03
schestowitzshimNov 07 10:03
XFaCEschestowitz: I'm guessing that's cause of intel pressureNov 07 10:03
schestowitzalthough Linux complained that he was deepthroating MicrosoftNov 07 10:03
XFaCEand RedH HatNov 07 10:03
schestowitzXFaCE: yes, IntelNov 07 10:03
schestowitzRed Hat paid his salaryNov 07 10:03
schestowitzat least at the timeNov 07 10:03
XFaCEschestowitz: and red hat, since they've been fine with the UEFI thingNov 07 10:03
schestowitzIntel and Red Hat co-sponsor some blogsNov 07 10:03
XFaCEand now we know they have no problem being touched by a MicrosoftNov 07 10:03
schestowitzRed Hat and Intel are quite close, also when it comes to systemdNov 07 10:04
XFaCE*directly*Nov 07 10:04
schestowitz[15:02] <MinceR> now you can write about washington post :>Nov 07 10:04
schestowitzNo, I have no patience for thatNov 07 10:04
schestowitzit's not that importantyNov 07 10:04
schestowitz*tantNov 07 10:04
schestowitzsome people responded, I put that in tuxmachinesNov 07 10:05
schestowitzwith selective quotes of people who respond to the pieceNov 07 10:05
schestowitzand then there will be IRC logs, FWIWNov 07 10:05
msb_I never buy Intel CPUs, only AMD.Nov 07 10:05
schestowitzNo need to give CIAPost more attention than they already gotNov 07 10:05
schestowitzI wonder how Torvalds feels about the pieceNov 07 10:05
schestowitzif I had something witty to say, I'd ask Torvalads about it over emailNov 07 10:06
XFaCEschestowitz: "Washington Post... FUCK YOU!"Nov 07 10:06
schestowitzsometimes they have some decent reportsNov 07 10:06
XFaCEon a blue moonNov 07 10:06
schestowitzbecause they employ some fairly good journalists, same with NYTimesNov 07 10:06
schestowitzbut all in all, both "journals of record" are Pentagon mouthpiecesNov 07 10:06
schestowitz(well funded at that)Nov 07 10:06
schestowitzso they can snap good reporter like James RisenNov 07 10:06
MinceRwhere were their "fairly good journalists" when this article was vomited out and published?Nov 07 10:06
XFaCEschestowitz: also apologists for political correctnessNov 07 10:07
schestowitzwhat's political correctness?Nov 07 10:07
schestowitzEntrapping peopleNov 07 10:07
schestowitz!google torvalds trap esrNov 07 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - From kafkatrap to honeytrap - Armed and Dangerous - Ibiblio | http://esr.ibiblio.org/%3Fp%3D6907Nov 07 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Are feminists targeting Linus Torvalds for sexual assault charges ... | http://www.itworld.com/article/3001440/linux/are-feminist-sjws-targeting-linus-torvalds-for-sexual-assault-charges.htmlNov 07 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - a/esr-sharing - LWN.net | https://lwn.net/2000/0824/a/esr-sharing.php3Nov 07 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Any woman in tech could be a false-accusing feminist honey trap ... | http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/11/05/any-woman-in-tech-could-be-a-false-accusing-feminist-honey-trap-addled-open-source-guru-warns/Nov 07 10:07
schestowitzI suspected soNov 07 10:08
schestowitzSome female Linux dev complained about ShrapNov 07 10:08
schestowitzsaid she was abusing TorvaldsNov 07 10:08
schestowitzand that she had also done that to her husbandNov 07 10:08
schestowitzit was a threat from 2013 IIRCNov 07 10:08
schestowitzI can find it if you wantNov 07 10:08
schestowitzLinux doesn't "hire" peopleNov 07 10:08
schestowitzSo some trolls end up working like moles inside, inc. Microsoft molesNov 07 10:09
schestowitzwho "love Linux"Nov 07 10:09
schestowitzEnough to shove proprietary software hooks into itNov 07 10:09
schestowitzwhile violating GPLNov 07 10:09
XFaCE[10:07:21]<schestowitz> what's political correctness?Nov 07 10:09
schestowitz(hyper-V)Nov 07 10:09
schestowitzThe definition I'd giveNov 07 10:09
schestowitz(without looking up)Nov 07 10:09
XFaCEschestowitz: authoritarianism, self-censorship for the purpose of not upsetting "feelilngs"Nov 07 10:09
schestowitzif what you need to say to remain electableNov 07 10:09
schestowitzso, don't alienate potential votesNov 07 10:09
schestowitznon-whites, women, homosexualsNov 07 10:10
XFaCEschestowitz: it can apply to everyone beyond politiciansNov 07 10:10
schestowitzIOW, don't express opinionsNov 07 10:10
XFaCEexactlyNov 07 10:10
schestowitzNot even on war and foreign policy, unless it's Bush's "axis of evil'Nov 07 10:10
schestowitzThen you can make all the fun you wantNov 07 10:10
schestowitzmock N Korea, Not S ArabiaNov 07 10:10
schestowitzpolitical correctness is a WESTERN termNov 07 10:11
schestowitzwon't apply in other countriesNov 07 10:11
schestowitzsame with words like "Anti-American", Anti-Semite" etc.Nov 07 10:11
schestowitzArabs and Russians don't enjoy these same moral 'proections'Nov 07 10:11
schestowitzBTW, I used to think third world country meant poor countryNov 07 10:12
schestowitzNot so, look up the definitoponNov 07 10:12
schestowitzFirst means allies with West/NATO, second means with USSR, "third" with neitherNov 07 10:12
schestowitzSo they poor-shame people not aligned with some political agendaNov 07 10:12
schestowitz(one that primarily empowers/perpetuates power of Five Eyes and co. (mostly central Europe post WW2Nov 07 10:13
XFaCEhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151106/08022132734/jpmorgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-says-government-will-stop-bitcoin.shtmlNov 07 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Says The Government Will 'Stop' Bitcoin | TechdirtNov 07 10:15
schestowitztaNov 07 10:17
MinceRwhat happened to microsoft florian?Nov 07 10:32
schestowitzHe's reformed a bitNov 07 10:36
schestowitzno longer takes money from MicrosoftNov 07 10:36
schestowitzhe admitted to me that he hadNov 07 10:37
schestowitzand explained how he justified this to himselfNov 07 10:37
schestowitzremember he did some linux and IBM bashing before thatNov 07 10:37
MinceRicNov 07 10:37
schestowitznow he seems to be going hard on companies that defend the use of software patentsNov 07 10:37
schestowitzeven AppleNov 07 10:37
schestowitzand I think that if he gets support for that, he might find that advocating for the "good fight" is worth Euros to himNov 07 10:37
MinceRniceNov 07 10:38
schestowitzwhich is what it all boils down for him,...Nov 07 10:38
schestowitzhe's a lobbyistNov 07 10:38
schestowitznow he's supportive of techrightsNov 07 10:38
schestowitzdespite all that I wrote about him (negative)Nov 07 10:38
XFaCEschestowitz: so he's a shapeshifter? :PNov 07 10:40
MinceR"But one could not create products more independently and single-handedly than Apple."Nov 07 10:41
MinceRwhat the fuckNov 07 10:41
XFaCEumNov 07 10:41
XFaCEwhere did that come from MinceR ?Nov 07 10:41
MinceRif that's true, what's all the code ripped off from Mach, FreeBSD and KDE doing in their shit?Nov 07 10:41
MinceRmicrosoft florianNov 07 10:41
MinceRhere: http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/11/hypocritical-red-hat-hopes-to-leverage.htmlNov 07 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Hypocritical Red Hat hopes to leverage patents to cement its Linux market leadership: Microsoft dealNov 07 10:42
XFaCEahNov 07 10:42
XFaCEahNov 07 10:42
XFaCEApple Florian?Nov 07 10:42
MinceRis he apple florian now?Nov 07 10:42
MinceR:)Nov 07 10:42
XFaCEShapeshifting FlorianNov 07 10:42
MinceRWeathervane FlorianNov 07 10:42
XFaCEHilary Clinton FlorianNov 07 10:43
MinceRlolNov 07 10:44
XFaCEMinceR: http://news.drweb.com/show/?i=9686&lng=en&c=5Nov 07 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.drweb.com | Encryption ransomware threatens Linux users — Dr.Web - innovation anti-virus security technologies. Comprehensive protection from Internet threats.Nov 07 11:19
XFaCE"Once launched with administrator privileges, the Trojan dubbed Linux.Encoder.1 downloads files..."Nov 07 11:19
XFaCEMinceR: hold it, does this mean that this "trojan" only works... if you run it as root?Nov 07 11:20
XRevan86XFaCE: Well, "trojan" means "user is dumb enough to give it all it needs"Nov 07 11:21
XRevan86Question is: who cares?Nov 07 11:21
XFaCEQuestion is... what web servers are going a) download this and b) run this as root?Nov 07 11:22
XFaCEor as you put it, who care? :PNov 07 11:22
XFaCE*sNov 07 11:22
MinceRalso, apple florian hasn't heard of foxconn or what they doNov 07 11:37
MinceRor who manufactures IC-s, displays, etc. for crAppleNov 07 11:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/663034003331620864Nov 07 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainiarc7: @schestowitz slurm?Nov 07 12:01
schestowitz[15:40] <XFaCE> schestowitz: so he's a shapeshifter? :PNov 07 12:01
schestowitzIn a sense, yesNov 07 12:01
schestowitz[15:43] <XFaCE> Hilary Clinton FlorianNov 07 12:02
schestowitzReptoidianNov 07 12:02
XRevan86Changeling?Nov 07 12:16
schestowitzmeh :-)Nov 07 12:36
schestowitzSomeone just told me this about EPO I.U.:Nov 07 12:36
schestowitz"Claudio Zanghi, “The Spanish inquisitor”. He is actually Italian. He is the Head of the Investigative Unit. Mr Zanghi looks friendly and reserved but don’t be fooled. Dr Jekyll at the coffee machine and Mr Hyde when drafting reports on EPO employees."Nov 07 12:36
schestowitzDetails about the head of the #epo 'Gestapo' (as EPO staff calls it) http://techrights.org/2015/11/07/head-of-epo-investigative-unit/Nov 07 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO’s Investigative Unit Exposed: Part V | TechrightsNov 07 13:12
MinceRgestEPONov 07 13:13
XFaCEMinceR: very goodNov 07 13:13
MinceR:)Nov 07 13:13
cubexyzinteresting what Nyhrvold said about WindowsNov 07 13:23
cubexyzcompares the cost of running a PC in a year to the cost of windowsNov 07 13:23
MinceRbecause winblows will kill the pc in a year? :>Nov 07 13:24
cubexyzhe also states "I don't think Linux is very important"Nov 07 13:24
cubexyzin 1998Nov 07 13:24
MinceRshould have asked about what protects their shitty webservers from load firstNov 07 13:25
cubexyzhow dare people not pay the Microsoft tax!Nov 07 13:25
cubexyzthat's the vibe I got from itNov 07 13:25
MinceRno wonderNov 07 13:25
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MinceRthey believe the whole world belongs to themNov 07 13:25
MinceRand aren't even trying to hide thatNov 07 13:25
cubexyzthen he says "it is a serious competitor" later onNov 07 13:26
cubexyzso which is it? :) it is serious or not Nov 07 13:26
MinceRit's a serious competitor that is not very importantNov 07 13:27
cubexyzthat would have been in the redhat 5.2 era, so yes it was pretty good at that point in timeNov 07 13:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/663059061127012352Nov 07 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz @glynmoody I usually don't like such historical comparisons but the EPO is by far the most fascist entity in Munich since 1945.Nov 07 13:27
MinceRm$, crApple and the b$a don't have offices in Munich?Nov 07 13:28
schestowitz[18:13] <MinceR> gestEPONov 07 13:39
schestowitzLOL, didn't think of itNov 07 13:39
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schestowitzHahaha! Florian is now your best friend! :-)Nov 07 16:34
schestowitzJan WildeboerNov 07 16:34
schestowitzhttp://www.fosspatents.com/2015/11/hypocritical-red-hat-hopes-to-leverage.html?m=1Nov 07 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Hypocritical Red Hat hopes to leverage patents to cement its Linux market leadership: Microsoft dealNov 07 16:34
schestowitzHe used to be your friend too :-)Nov 07 16:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/madridbombings/status/663104088301793281Nov 07 16:35
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schestowitz"Hehe. "Friend". Let me just say that I encouraged him to do things he shouldn't have done. Like shouting at Rocard."Nov 07 16:46
schestowitz"Which resulted in him being kicked out of the Brussels sphere ;-)"Nov 07 16:46
schestowitzLOL, I didn't know thatNov 07 16:46
*amarsh04 is a bit frustrated at working Linux kernel code being replaced with broken code: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/7/31Nov 07 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Arthur Marsh: lock-up on boot with x86/PCI/ACPI: Use common interface to support PCI host bridgeNov 07 16:48
amarsh04after the same person had earlier done a scsi code commit that broke things for meNov 07 16:48
schestowitz"I'm evil. I work at Red Hat ;-)"Nov 07 16:52
schestowitz"This was before I joined Red Hat, however."Nov 07 16:52
schestowitz"It was when we at FFII saw that Florian was becoming a problem."Nov 07 16:52
schestowitz"He started to support the SUN position. Which was totally not acceptable from our perspective."Nov 07 16:52
schestowitzSo who is he loyal to at the end of the day? Sincere question. Is he cooking a trick and may stab at the back again later? Bad/good cop?Nov 07 16:53
schestowitz"Hahaha! Florian is now your best friend! :-)"Nov 07 16:53
MinceRmoneyNov 07 16:53
schestowitz[red hat's jan]Nov 07 16:53
schestowitzMinceR: yeah, but I want to see what Jan saysNov 07 16:53
MinceR:)Nov 07 16:53
schestowitzlet's wait and seeNov 07 16:53
schestowitzthey're very butthurt nowNov 07 16:53
schestowitzafter the MS deal didn't just yield 100% puff piecesNov 07 16:54
schestowitz"The way he praises Microsoft and Oracle in his recent post compared to how he slams Red Hat (because we stopped paying him. Guess who made that proposal? ;-)"Nov 07 16:57
schestowitz"And ATM he claims to be some sort of privateer. I might even buy that. But it also means he needs some headlines every now and then."Nov 07 16:57
schestowitz"I haven't talked to him for 3 years."Nov 07 16:57
schestowitzWait, Red Hat PAID him?!Nov 07 16:57
schestowitz(maybe he meant for the days of anti swpats activismNov 07 16:58
schestowitzi.e. around 2005Nov 07 16:58
schestowitzlet's see what he says, this is becoming interestingNov 07 16:58
schestowitz"Yep. Red Hat sponsored his no software patents campaign. Together with MySQL."Nov 07 16:59
schestowitzIs this public info?Nov 07 16:59
schestowitz"When I joined Red Hat in 2005 I made sure that stopped."Nov 07 16:59
schestowitz"FFII was pissed. They felt that Florian was taking money away from them."Nov 07 17:00
schestowitzI never took any money from any company (other than my employer). I guess I'm not ahem... business-minded like FMNov 07 17:00
schestowitzFFII was pissed. They felt that Florian was taking money away from them.Nov 07 17:01
schestowitzJan WildeboerNov 07 17:01
schestowitzhttp://www.fosspatents.com/2015/11/hypocritical-red-hat-hopes-to-leverage.html?m=1Nov 07 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Hypocritical Red Hat hopes to leverage patents to cement its Linux market leadership: Microsoft deal [ http://ur1.ca/o8xl9 ]Nov 07 17:01
schestowitzFFII was pissed. They felt that Florian was taking money away from them.Nov 07 17:01
schestowitzJan WildeboerNov 07 17:01
schestowitzhttp://www.fosspatents.com/2015/11/hypocritical-red-hat-hopes-to-leverage.html?m=1Nov 07 17:01
schestowitz[Ah, I guess he did mention it, I missed it]Nov 07 17:01
schestowitzMinceR: there's some fishy about FMNov 07 17:01
schestowitzstillNov 07 17:01
schestowitzhe was praised by MSNov 07 17:01
MinceRhis praise for crApple already smells to meNov 07 17:01
schestowitzGuetirrez, or whatever's the name of their main anti-Linux patent lawyerNov 07 17:02
schestowitzvice preseidentNov 07 17:02
MinceRespecially considering that crApple is not only a parasite with shitty products, but they also keep attacking */LinuxNov 07 17:02
schestowitzI'll watch out, I guess.... but it's him just following me re Red HatNov 07 17:02
schestowitzMinceR: Apple is lowering the volume of lawsuits over AndroidNov 07 17:02
schestowitzAFAIKNov 07 17:02
schestowitzThe HTC case was 'settlesd'Nov 07 17:02
schestowitzwith payNov 07 17:02
schestowitzand I think it's just Samsung they still go afterNov 07 17:03
MinceRnot a difficult task for themNov 07 17:03
schestowitzMicrosoft does worse nowNov 07 17:03
schestowitzafter Jobs died the cases slowed down, over timeNov 07 17:03
schestowitzit took a year or twoNov 07 17:03
MinceRthere are a lot of notches they could go downNov 07 17:03
schestowitzthey'll loseNov 07 17:03
MinceRthey've also bought CUPS so they could fuck it upNov 07 17:03
schestowitzbut they still make money in the DRM businessNov 07 17:03
schestowitzand their shit is overprised, so money still flows inNov 07 17:03
schestowitz*pricedNov 07 17:03
schestowitzCUPS isn't f*ed up yetNov 07 17:04
schestowitzworks well for meNov 07 17:04
MinceRafaik they've already started removing featuresNov 07 17:04
schestowitz"I , too, have a (past) Red Hat connection, but it's none that I would be proud of. Over the decades I've done work for a variety of companies, and Red Hat is the only one I wish I had never worked with. They supported my NoSoftwarePatents campaign in late 2004 and early 2005, probably because they just thought a sponsorship was useful for currying favor with the FOSS community. They were far larger than MySQL AB but contributed a far Nov 07 17:04
schestowitzsmaller amount."Nov 07 17:04
schestowitzJan: "As public as it can get ;-)"Nov 07 17:04
schestowitzThat helps add contextNov 07 17:05
schestowitz"Always happy to help :-)"Nov 07 17:06
schestowitzDon't take any of my writings about Red Hat personally. It's a bug company now, so there are competing interests therein, between separate groups, products, not just people. Red Hat even hired managers from Microsoft.Nov 07 17:07
schestowitz*bigNov 07 17:07
schestowitzMinceR: red hat is chatting about these nowNov 07 17:08
schestowitzthe writings by varghese, FM, techrightsNov 07 17:08
MinceRthey're realizing they shouldn't have copied novell so closely?Nov 07 17:08
schestowitzlet's see if the "Open Organization" as Whitehurst calls it sheds some light on the patent situation (e.g. GPL compatibility and how so)Nov 07 17:08
schestowitzJan: "And you can as Carlo Piana about the Red Hat/Microsoft deal. He knows the contract. Not even I do. Carlo did say there is no patent deal in there. But don't trust me. That's perfectly ok. Doesn't change my respect towards you."Nov 07 17:09
schestowitz"Ask. Not as"Nov 07 17:09
schestowitzSo they contracted Piana to help with the deal?Nov 07 17:09
schestowitz"Yes. We hired managers from Microsoft. And Oracle. And IBM. And they all get the personal brainwash by me in Munich ;-)"Nov 07 17:10
schestowitz"Carlo told me the agreement is fully GPL compliant."Nov 07 17:10
schestowitz"Yes, we did."Nov 07 17:10
schestowitzTell Piana (nice guy) and Whitehurst (I interview him) to consider releasing the info to the public to stop speculations then...Nov 07 17:10
schestowitzI used to defend Red Hat even when they made patent deals, e.g. with the trollsNov 07 17:11
MinceRtheir faq claims the pact includes that "neither company will pursue a patent lawsuit or claim against the other or its customers, while we are partnering"Nov 07 17:12
schestowitzBecause Red Hat showed it was GPL compatible and shared the details, didn't hide themNov 07 17:12
MinceRsimilar weaseling around patents as the novell "covenant not to sue"Nov 07 17:12
schestowitzI can still change my mind and offer an updated interpretationNov 07 17:12
schestowitzMinceR: yeahNov 07 17:12
MinceRso either there's a patent deal or they lie about the deal on http://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/faq-red-hat-and-microsoft-partnershipNov 07 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | FAQ: Red Hat and Microsoft Partnership | Red HatNov 07 17:12
schestowitzthis is why I want to see the binding contractNov 07 17:12
MinceR_and_ they expect us to eat this bullshitNov 07 17:12
schestowitznot some verbal stuff from a geek, not some lawyerNov 07 17:12
MinceRwhat a slimy bunch of career criminalsNov 07 17:13
schestowitz"Unfortunately not going to happen."Nov 07 17:13
schestowitz"I am pushing our legal department to publish general advice with template language however."Nov 07 17:13
schestowitz"Please don't. Only if you get the assurance and info you need."Nov 07 17:13
schestowitzNothing to fear, nothing to hideNov 07 17:13
schestowitz"I'm not the one who can deliver that. Carlo can, I hope."Nov 07 17:13
schestowitzAsk PianaNov 07 17:13
schestowitz"I am pushing our legal department to publish general advice with template language however."Nov 07 17:14
schestowitz"Unfortunately not going to happen."Nov 07 17:15
schestowitz"I don't like the deal. But I understand why it's a good thing."Nov 07 17:15
schestowitz"It was 100% customer driven."Nov 07 17:15
schestowitz"They wanted this. Microsoft accepted that. After almost two years."Nov 07 17:15
schestowitz"Canonical/SUSE just wasn't good enough for Azure customers."Nov 07 17:15
schestowitz"It was 100% customer driven." is Novell speakNov 07 17:15
schestowitzAnd I explained why it's not a good thing for the community, irrespective of Red Hat's interests and its customers'Nov 07 17:16
schestowitzI said this in comments, in articles, social mediaNov 07 17:16
schestowitzPJ used to call it Yuppie Nuremberg defenceNov 07 17:16
MinceRLOLNov 07 17:16
MinceR231530 < schestowitz> "Canonical/SUSE just wasn't good enough for Azure customers."Nov 07 17:16
MinceRif there was anything that wasn't good enough for azure customers, they wouldn't be azure customersNov 07 17:17
schestowitz"Hehe. They all went to the same disinformation school, I guess ;-)"Nov 07 17:17
schestowitz"Again, I'm not a fan."Nov 07 17:17
schestowitzI know, it's like when I'm asked to remotely access Windows to do something from the one paying the salaryNov 07 17:18
schestowitz"I know, it's like when I'm asked to remotely access Windows to do something from the one paying the salary"Nov 07 17:18
schestowitzCould Microsoft not omit the whole parent thing for Azure?Nov 07 17:18
schestowitzCanonica;'s azure deal hasn't got that crap, like "standstill"Nov 07 17:18
schestowitzt "neither company will pursue a patent lawsuit or claim against the other or its customers, while we are partnering"Nov 07 17:19
schestowitz"But I do see that we got a deal that SUSE or Canonical couldn't get."Nov 07 17:20
schestowitz"I am willing to wait a year and see what happens."Nov 07 17:20
schestowitz"They were told "sign here". And they did."Nov 07 17:20
schestowitz"We insisted on that. On not recognizing any patent value."Nov 07 17:20
schestowitzWere Webbink, Tiller et al involved in this?Nov 07 17:21
schestowitzCan I interview any of them about this?Nov 07 17:21
schestowitz"That was the show stopper for almost two years."Nov 07 17:21
schestowitz"We didn't give in ;-)"Nov 07 17:21
schestowitz"But my sources inside Microsoft tell me that Nadella wants to move away from the patent mess."Nov 07 17:21
schestowitzLOLNov 07 17:21
schestowitzWhy did he do what he did to ASUS, Kyocera, Dell, and Samsung?Nov 07 17:22
schestowitzMaybe he can write about this in opensource.comNov 07 17:22
schestowitzHe has not written there for agesNov 07 17:22
schestowitzNot about patent policy, not software patents, not trolls, nothing...Nov 07 17:23
schestowitz"I don't know. I do know he allowed our deal to go through."Nov 07 17:23
schestowitzLet's just say that I don't know how Tiller intends to really tackle swpats, if he's at all interested in this...Nov 07 17:23
schestowitzMaybe I'll do patent search later to see if Red Hat still applies for patents on softwareNov 07 17:24
schestowitz"I don't know. I do know he allowed our deal to go through."Nov 07 17:24
schestowitz"I'll ask around."Nov 07 17:24
schestowitz"I'm As interested to get this out in public as you are."Nov 07 17:24
schestowitzTell him. OPEN Organisation. Like the book ;-)Nov 07 17:24
schestowitz"We do.Nov 07 17:25
schestowitz"Nov 07 17:25
amarsh04one shouldn't trust hearsay, just use it to help find hard evidenceNov 07 17:25
schestowitzApplying for spftware patents serves to convince me that Red Hat's size and growing budget goes to waste, like Gates after his "standstill" remarkNov 07 17:25
MinceRooh, poor little innocent m$ wants to move away from the mess that is in large part their fault?Nov 07 17:25
MinceRhow cute.Nov 07 17:25
schestowitzHe and Microsoft both say standstillNov 07 17:26
schestowitzGates said patents would lead to a standstill (when Microsoft was small), not that he's back in MS management I hear of a patent "standstill" with Red Hat. Still same language.Nov 07 17:26
schestowitzServes to show two giants agreeing to help each other, like with Novell...Nov 07 17:26
schestowitz"As interested to get this out in public as you are."Nov 07 17:27
schestowitz"We do."Nov 07 17:27
schestowitz"But still under our patent promise.'Nov 07 17:27
schestowitz"All our patents are also going to OIN."Nov 07 17:27
schestowitz"This is a different standstill. No cross licensing. No payments."Nov 07 17:27
schestowitzSun also was peaceful, but what happened when Oracle got the patents?Nov 07 17:28
schestowitzOIN Oracle...Nov 07 17:28
schestowitzI asked Red hat this several years ago, no assurance if Red Hat gets sold (it's not too expensive for some OEMs to devour, with MBAs who don't care about Linux signing the deal)Nov 07 17:28
schestowitzNovell was in OIN and the patents are now in CPTN (Oracle, Microsoft, Apple)Nov 07 17:29
MinceRi doubt deadrat will end up any better than novell didNov 07 17:29
schestowitz"All our patents are also going to OIN."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"This is a different standstill. No cross licensing. No payments."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"Not even acceptance of validity."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"I'll try to get more details in the open."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"Yep. And I cannot garantuee we might not get bought. But IMHO it's never going to happen."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"But now I'm off to get some sleep."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitzExplain this to Jim. We need "Open"Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"Gartner event in Barcelona next week. Analyst meetings."Nov 07 17:30
schestowitzGreedy bastards (Gartner)Nov 07 17:30
schestowitz"Gartner event in Barcelona next week. Analyst meetings."Nov 07 17:31
schestowitz"Guess what they want to talk about ;-)"Nov 07 17:31
schestowitz*It's called "gartner tax"Nov 07 17:31
schestowitzNot my term, people use it to mean money you pay those scumbags to make sure they stay on the good side of you... that's their biz modelNov 07 17:32
schestowitz"And I'll meet Jim there. I will ask."Nov 07 17:32
schestowitz"But now I'm off to get some sleep."Nov 07 17:32
schestowitz"Yep. And I cannot garantuee we might not get bought. But IMHO it's never going to happen."Nov 07 17:32
schestowitz"Yep. But giving out loads of red hats so people wear them at the sponsor party paid by Microsoft is worth it ;-)"Nov 07 17:33
schestowitzOh dear..Nov 07 17:33
schestowitz"At least for me :-)"Nov 07 17:33
schestowitzI know what happens when people get into symbolism, uniform,  tribalismNov 07 17:33
schestowitz"They complained bitterly last year."Nov 07 17:33
MinceRyes, it will help drive the point that m$ and ratcrap are best buddies nowNov 07 17:33
MinceR+homeNov 07 17:34
schestowitzyeahNov 07 17:34
schestowitzlike HovsepianNov 07 17:34
schestowitzewwwNov 07 17:34
schestowitz"All of the photos they got from the floor were filled with red hats."Nov 07 17:34
schestowitzThat's just branding, let's see gnusNov 07 17:34
schestowitz"I even have a Shadowman tattoo ;-)"Nov 07 17:34
schestowitz"No gnu on my sacred body :-)'Nov 07 17:35
schestowitzThat's too bad, RMS would be upset. Anywya, g'night. Good luck opening this up.Nov 07 17:35
schestowitz"No gnu on my sacred body :-)"Nov 07 17:37
schestowitz"Thanks for the nice chat!"Nov 07 17:37
schestowitz--Nov 07 17:37
schestowitzoverNov 07 17:37
schestowitzMinceR: I think they start to feel the heatNov 07 17:37
schestowitzit's not just about patents but good citizenshipNov 07 17:37
schestowitzmeaning, not too much silencing of FSF etc.Nov 07 17:38
schestowitzremember FSF gets money from themNov 07 17:38
schestowitzso GNU/RMS cannot say much about systemdNov 07 17:38
MinceRwell, now they can give the FSF more moneyNov 07 17:38
schestowitzLinux Foundation has more sponsoredNov 07 17:38
MinceRas it has given up its principles alreadyNov 07 17:38
schestowitzBut many of Torvalds' colleagues work for Red HatNov 07 17:38
MinceRand became the Gratis Windows FoundationNov 07 17:38
schestowitzvery core parts of the kernelNov 07 17:38
schestowitzRed Hat, I think, is almost worth 20 billion nowNov 07 17:38
schestowitzCanonical maybe 80 million?Nov 07 17:38
MinceReverything is being fucked upNov 07 17:38
schestowitzNot sure, maybe that's turnoverNov 07 17:39
MinceRi wonder when will putin nuke us allNov 07 17:39
schestowitzI doubt itNov 07 17:39
schestowitzMinceR: putin doesn't need to nuke us, his comrades will do a fine job, in due course, with their crappy aging systemNov 07 17:39
schestowitz!google jeep accident military nuke truckNov 07 17:40
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schestowitzEven the US can't do it rightNov 07 17:40
MinceRit would speed along the extinction of humanity just fine, thoughNov 07 17:40
schestowitzpassing nukes past main roads like it's some fedex delivery surrounded by armoured vehiclesNov 07 17:40
MinceRwell, it's not like nukes are important to defendNov 07 17:41
MinceRunlike important politiciansNov 07 17:41
schestowitzimportant people whose skill is writing and speech-giving?Nov 07 17:46
schestowitzPeople who can't make a simple device, write code, or fight?Nov 07 17:46
schestowitzThose who call experts and techs "nerds"?Nov 07 17:46
schestowitzPoliticians are just corporations' vehicles for powerNov 07 17:46
schestowitzexploiting or even changing so-called law to get more for themselves and less/nothing for everybody elseNov 07 17:47
MinceRyes, important people whose only skill is persuading other people to fuck up life for everybodyNov 07 17:47
MinceRironic how the typical human paralyzing fear of death may well lead to the death of all humans (via religion)Nov 07 17:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/663128754311532545Nov 07 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: +1 https://t.co/35zpwqr5JsNov 07 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Watching the story of Swartz inspired me to continue my activism against #censorship and against bullying designed to impede #freespeechNov 07 18:05
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Reconquista1970/status/663141748709974016Nov 07 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Reconquista1970: @schestowitz They rage against capitalism with their iPhones, designer clothes and mass produced Guy Fawkes masks. #bellendsNov 07 18:57
schestowitzThey should rage against capitalism naked, with rocks, stones, and very thick ash stains for anonymity???Nov 07 18:57
MinceRthey shouldn't rage against capitalism, they should rage against things that existNov 07 18:58
MinceRthey should rage against oppression, exploitation, unfree markets, monopoly exploitation, etc.Nov 07 18:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Reconquista1970/status/663144091165851648Nov 07 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Reconquista1970: @schestowitz well yes, Capitalism with all its flaws is the only game in townNov 07 19:01
MinceRit's not the only game marx wrote about. we tried the other.Nov 07 19:02
MinceRit was a total disaster.Nov 07 19:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/663147432247754752Nov 07 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @alexghibbert Im gonna get my vendetta mask now the occasion is over. Should be cheaper. Like wrapping paper.Nov 07 19:17
schestowitzdafaq http://www.techtimes.com/articles/101857/20151103/nintendo-is-censoring-13-year-old-xenoblade-chronicles-x-character-over-racy-costume.htm http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/nintendo-covers-up-underage-girls-in-western-version-of-xenoblade-chronicles-x/0158361Nov 07 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Nintendo Is Censoring 13-Year-Old 'Xenoblade Chronicles X' Character Over Racy Costume : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesNov 07 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcvuk.com | Nintendo covers up underage girls in Western version of Xenoblade Chronicles X | Games industry news | MCVNov 07 19:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alvfig/status/663155474649513988Nov 07 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alvfig: @hgfernan @Mackellsud @coisasdogeek @eliaspraciano @Darkwings1Mr @schestowitz @brigserman @sapo2025 @ro7_so67 vlw #FFBNov 07 19:48
balrogschestowitz: "censoring"? the original is downright atrocious looking: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1132037Nov 07 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neogaf.com | Looks like Nintendo changed some outfits for Lin in Xenoblade X - NeoGAFNov 07 19:54
balrog(and it seems like much of NeoGAF agrees)Nov 07 19:54
msb_I think all nuclear bombs these days are of the implosion type, and they will not go off unless all of the explosive lenses are detonated at exactly the same time, which has to be done electronically.  Can't happen from mere impact.Nov 07 20:37
msb_http://hollywoodprogressive.com/collateral-damageNov 07 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hollywoodprogressive.com | Collateral DamageNov 07 20:38
MinceRi hope that's trueNov 07 20:42
MinceRand that the electronics are designed, built and operated with due diligenceNov 07 20:42
MinceRof course, a mere impact could still shatter the bomb and cause fallout...Nov 07 20:42
msb_schestowitz: You could liken the RedHat-Microsoft deal to the Hitler-Stalin Non-Agression Pact.Nov 07 20:42
msb_A little plutonium dust from the undetonated core, but negligeable compared to the amount of fallout from a fission detonation.Nov 07 20:45
msb_The electronics are designed very carefully with multiple circuits that must be operated for the bomb to go off.Nov 07 20:46
MinceRthat depends on the energy of the impactNov 07 20:47
MinceRas for the electronics, think about the IT products marketroids say are very carefully designed and of very high quality :>Nov 07 20:47
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MinceR(or read dilbert and consider that the supplier may well be such a company :> )Nov 07 20:48
msb_No.  A high energy impact will simply shatter the electronics package, not operate it.Nov 07 20:48
XFaCEMinceR: dilbert is awesomeNov 07 20:49
MinceRit would shatter the core more completely, though, and spread the fallout moreNov 07 20:49
MinceRXFaCE: indeed.Nov 07 20:49
XFaCE[20:42:29]<msb_> schestowitz: You could liken the RedHat-Microsoft deal to the Hitler-Stalin Non-Agression Pact.Nov 07 20:50
MinceRmsb_: is there a concrete scenario you have in mind, btw?Nov 07 20:50
XFaCEnah, cause that assumes that Red Hat and Microsoft are diametrically opposed to each otherNov 07 20:50
MinceRno, hitler and stalin weren't diametrically opposed to each otherNov 07 20:51
MinceRthough that's what the russians would very much have you believeNov 07 20:51
msb_No, I just thought that a patent non-aggression pact was similar, and the idea would stick in people's mind.Nov 07 20:51
MinceRi agree with thatNov 07 20:51
msb_MinceR: As to capitalism, you seem to be saying that what we have isn't really capitalism.  But it _is_.  In our economic system, money equals power, and since many people are susceptible to bribery, wealthy people end up controlling governments and news media, which they use to make themselves even more wealthy by lying propaganda and military attacks.  That has turned out to be the (d)evolution of capitalism.  You might like to think Nov 07 21:02
msb_that capitalism is just grocery stores and small farms on Main Street like in cowboy movies, but it's not.  It's destruction of entire nations, the murder of millions of people, poisoning more millions with GMO "food", bribing government to _prevent_ GMO labelling, selling billions of dollars worth of toxic anti-viral vaccines while suppressing the knowledge that Vitamin C enables the body to throw off all viral infections (except maybe Nov 07 21:02
msb_retroviruses), etc.Nov 07 21:02
MinceRi think it's a bad idea to adopt the term from marxNov 07 21:02
MinceRsince his theory has failed quite spectacularlyNov 07 21:02
MinceRit also distracts people from the important points, like having a free market.Nov 07 21:03
msb_We've been through this before.  Marx did not invent the term "capitalism".Nov 07 21:03
MinceRhe did notNov 07 21:03
MinceRbut he did invent the application of that term to what people apply it today.Nov 07 21:03
MinceRwhat others called "capitalism" before marx is not considered todayNov 07 21:04
MinceRand i think it was already demonstrated here that trying to do that would lead to absurd resultsNov 07 21:04
msb_How would you enforce a "free market", given the existence of bribery and lying propaganda via money control of news media?Nov 07 21:07
MinceRregulation, transparency, heavier reliance on the Internet and elimination of censorship, mainlyNov 07 21:09
msb_Those would all be good, but bribery is very easy to conceal.Nov 07 21:10
MinceRafaik nobody has a better idea.Nov 07 21:11
MinceRand no, command economy is not it.Nov 07 21:11
msb_Worker-owned businesses, like Mondragon.  Totally different from command economy.Nov 07 21:12
MinceRalso, afaik, there are countries on Earth that have significantly lower rates of corruption (or the perception thereof)Nov 07 21:12
MinceRperhaps we could learn from them.Nov 07 21:12
MinceRi don't think anyone's banning worker-owned businesses from the market currentlyNov 07 21:12
MinceRwhere monopolists are exploiting their control, it's not a question of being worker-owned, as far as i can tellNov 07 21:13
msb_Eliminating corporations entirely would be a very good thing.  Make stockholders personally criminally liable for injuries and deaths caused by companies' products.Nov 07 21:15
MinceReliminating the principle of limited liability?Nov 07 21:15
MinceRit would have an enormous cooling effect on entrepreneurshipNov 07 21:16
MinceRthen again, you may be meaning only the criminal liability part, not the monetary liability partNov 07 21:16
MinceRthat part might work, i'm not sureNov 07 21:16
msb_Yes, on _criminal_ entrepreneurship.Nov 07 21:16
msb_Nope, both.Nov 07 21:17
MinceRno, eliminating limited liability entirely would likely eliminate noncriminal entrepreneurship as wellNov 07 21:17
MinceRwho would dare risk the financial wellbeing of their family just to start a business?Nov 07 21:17
msb_If people lose their own money, that's fine.Nov 07 21:18
MinceRfor youNov 07 21:18
MinceRfor them, it may mean having to live on the street and starvingNov 07 21:19
MinceRall that for an idea for a business that didn't work out.Nov 07 21:19
MinceRand of course it would hit the little guys the hardestNov 07 21:19
XFaCE"Real journalism can hurt people’s feelings; ‘safe’ ‘journalism’ (puff pieces to appease or invite advertisers) does not."Nov 07 21:20
MinceR:>Nov 07 21:20
MinceRit hurts their minds insteadNov 07 21:21
MinceRif they believe itNov 07 21:21
msb_So all of their customers who paid in advance and never got anything should live in the street instead?Nov 07 21:21
MinceRit's a lot less likely that someone would be broke because they paid in advance for something and didn't get itNov 07 21:21
MinceRalso, eliminating limited liability won't even guarantee they won't live in the streetNov 07 21:22
MinceRthe debtor may simply not have enough funds to repay everyoneNov 07 21:22
msb_How do you prevent bribery by, e.g., slipping someone gold or silver?Nov 07 21:22
MinceRcultivating a culture that makes it unacceptableNov 07 21:23
MinceRrewarding disclosure of such events, perhapsNov 07 21:23
MinceRcan you show a system in which bribery can not happen?Nov 07 21:23
msb_Worker ownership is inherently far more transparent than our capitalism.Nov 07 21:24
MinceRbribery can still happen with worker ownershipNov 07 21:25
MinceRafaict worker ownership is entirely inapplicable to the state, so it can have no effect thereNov 07 21:25
msb_But it's far easier with hierarchical control.Nov 07 21:25
MinceRworker ownership would not make hierarchical control go awayNov 07 21:26
msb_Well there you need direct democracy rather than representative.Nov 07 21:26
MinceRi doubt even that would guarantee a lack of hierarchyNov 07 21:26
msb_Sure it would.  Workers would vote on things.Nov 07 21:26
MinceRnot everything that happens is a matter of votingNov 07 21:26
MinceRlots of things are matters of administration, for exampleNov 07 21:27
MinceRalso, the workers voting by itself does not guarantee anythingNov 07 21:27
MinceRthe votes would still have to be counted and the result would still have to be enforced.Nov 07 21:27
msb_Sure, but there would not be bosses who could order workers what to do.Nov 07 21:29
MinceRthere would probably still be workers with greater authority.Nov 07 21:30
MinceRand there would be people who could workers to enact the results of the votingNov 07 21:30
msb_Elected ones.Nov 07 21:30
msb_???Nov 07 21:30
MinceRelected representatives have already been shown to be corruptible.Nov 07 21:30
MinceRs/could/& force/Nov 07 21:31
msb_Elected managers could be recalled at any time, and there would only be one level of them.Nov 07 21:32
MinceRi doubt that would eliminate briberyNov 07 21:32
MinceRlet alone more subtle forms of corruptionNov 07 21:32
msb_Workers would be likely to know when their associates started acting richer.Nov 07 21:33
MinceRpeople already knowNov 07 21:33
MinceRbut it's little to work withNov 07 21:33
msb_You just dump on anything similar to socialism.Nov 07 21:36
MinceRand you just assume that anything similar to socialism is perfect.Nov 07 21:37
msb_MinceR: Stop lying about me!  Some things similar to socialism are better than the corrupt capitalism that has taken over the world.Nov 07 21:38
MinceRi wasn't talking about "corrupt capitalism", though.Nov 07 21:38
cubexyzCorporatocracyNov 07 23:43
cubexyznot saying it's good... but that could be the way things are headingNov 07 23:44
cubexyzexcessive pay for CEOs... bank bailouts... increased income inequalityNov 07 23:45
cubexyzall signs of a corporatocracyNov 07 23:45
cubexyzcompanies that write BIOS, it's a corporatocracy there tooNov 07 23:50
cubexyzthat stuff is locked down tight as a drumNov 07 23:51
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msb_schestowitz: This entire "Twitch" procedure seems to be designed to make installing Linux as difficult and failure-prone as possible.  You said before that hackaday is anti-Linux.  Maybe it would be better not to mention "Twitch", or if you do, say it's anti-Linux and give the previous evidence for that.Nov 01 05:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/660670469951983620Nov 01 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz Cybercloud Security for the Information Superhighway :)Nov 01 06:27
schestowitzmsb_: agreedNov 01 06:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Are The Open-Source Graphics Drivers GoodNov 01 06:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Are The Open-Source Graphics Drivers Good Enough For Steam Linux Gaming? - PhoronixNov 01 06:34
schestowitz"probly"Nov 01 06:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6764831Nov 01 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa still above and beyond the law http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/29/nsa-phone-surveillance-usa-freedom-act-transition http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/29/nsa_one_more_month_illegal_spying/ http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/29/us-usa-security-nsa-idUKKCN0SN1VI20151029 http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-us-wont-halt-nsa-phone-spying-program-ahead-of-ban-2015-10?r=US&IR=TNov 01 06:35
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schestowitz"explain, or link svp"Nov 01 06:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/6766709Nov 01 06:35
schestowitzDidn't see an article, but they did this to my wife last night...Nov 01 06:35
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msb_schestowitz: cubexyz: Can google shut down chromebooks/boxes remotely against the owner's wishes?  Nov 01 06:40
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msb_Yay!  My Babylon 5 DVDs (bought many years ago) work great.  (At least the first one does.)  I have complete control using mplayer.Nov 01 11:55
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msb_A hundred hours of escape from reality!Nov 01 11:56
msb_ISIL says they shot down that Russian airliner, but shoulder-launched SAMs can't reach that high.  So their claim is being denied.  But maybe the Saudis or Turks gave them a truck-mounted one that can.Nov 01 12:00
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cubexyzbusybox removes systemd supportNov 01 14:26
cubexyzfinally some sanityNov 01 14:27
msb_Is busybox used in desktop distros?Nov 01 14:28
cubexyzall the really compact distros use itNov 01 14:29
XRevan86busybox removes socket activation from built-in syslogd.Nov 01 14:29
cubexyzBL3, tinycore, probably other ones Nov 01 14:30
msb_So Raspberry Pi's and such are safe.Nov 01 14:31
XRevan86It'll probably still won't break though.Nov 01 14:32
msb_Well, anyhow, it's good that _somebody_ has rejected systemd.Nov 01 14:32
XRevan86Practically, nothing changed at all.Nov 01 14:32
cubexyzttylinux is another oneNov 01 14:32
msb_A guy in the #debianfork channel told me that most people there think (as I do) that the purpose of systemd is to sneak in a backdoor to kill Linux computers.Nov 01 14:35
msb_By the US govt.Nov 01 14:36
cubexyzwell when Theo Ts'o has trouble understanding policykit and he's an MIT grad in his 40's and a computer expert...Nov 01 14:39
msb_It's the only reason anyone would push this insane complexity onto the Linux world:  http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/Nov 01 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.darknedgy.net | Structural and semantic deficiencies in the systemd architecture for real-world service management, a technical treatiseNov 01 14:40
cubexyzthere's been some pretty strange statements made about DebianNov 01 14:42
cubexyzJulian Assange said Debian is owned by the NSANov 01 14:42
cubexyznow, I have no idea if that's true or notNov 01 14:42
cubexyzprobably not :)Nov 01 14:43
cubexyzthe internet and all, you can't trust every statement Nov 01 14:43
cubexyzis it possible that Linux is being attacked? definitelyNov 01 14:44
cubexyzNSA asked Linus to put backdoors in LinuxNov 01 14:45
msb_https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/09/179253/debian-dropping-linux-standard-baseNov 01 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Debian dropping the Linux Standard Base [LWN.net]Nov 01 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Debian Dropping Linux Standard Base - SlashdotNov 01 14:49
msb_Fucking up Linux even worse, again for no reason.Nov 01 14:50
cubexyzwell that's why the fork existsNov 01 14:50
msb_But Devuan depends mostly  on the Debian repos.  So this may be an effort to make it harder for Devuan to create a good Linux.Nov 01 14:52
cubexyzanyone can make their own distroNov 01 14:52
cubexyzI suspect we will continue to see thatNov 01 14:52
msb_See diagram at the bottom of the page:  https://www.devuan.org/Nov 01 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devuan.org | Devuan GNU/Linux - Debian without systemd.Nov 01 14:53
msb_Making a Linux distro requires a great deal of work if it   incorporates up-to-date software.  "Anyone" can _not_ do it.Nov 01 14:54
XRevan86How many LSB-compliant distros is there left?Nov 01 14:54
XRevan86https://linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsbNov 01 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxbase.org | LSB Certification System - Product DirectoryNov 01 14:56
cubexyzmsb_, anyone can take an old distro and upgrade parts as necessaryNov 01 14:56
cubexyzthey don't have to start from stratchNov 01 14:57
XRevan86List of LSB-compliant distributions: RHEL, Oracle Linux and some old stuff.Nov 01 14:57
cubexyzjust upgrade the stuff you needNov 01 14:57
msb_cubexyz: To make a Linux distro suitable for most people that means building hundreds of apps and system programs and their libraries and testing them all.  Because most people don't want to build stuff or don't know how.Nov 01 15:00
msb_That's why for a useful up-to-date Linux, Devuan is starting from up-to-date Debian.Nov 01 15:01
msb_The vast majority of people want an OS that just works.Nov 01 15:02
cubexyzpeople can't just do nothing and hope things turn out wellNov 01 15:03
msb_And includes all modern apps and the latest versions of system stuff like Python and Ruby.Nov 01 15:03
cubexyzit takes actionNov 01 15:03
XRevan86cubexyz: And GNU/Linux is understaffed.Nov 01 15:03
cubexyzsomeone has to do the workNov 01 15:03
XRevan86and not to do the work nobody needsNov 01 15:03
msb_cubexyz: You keep that most people have your abilities.  They don't.Nov 01 15:03
XRevan86Like… LSB support.Nov 01 15:04
XRevan86With time is keeps getting less and less important.Nov 01 15:04
msb_Yes, as LInux gets more and more messed up until it becomes useless crap.  And that's what the world rulers -- the US, EU, UK, Israel -- want.Nov 01 15:05
msb_Because Linux enables the people of the world to expose and talk about the evil that the rulers are doing, and to organize against it.Nov 01 15:06
cubexyzjust stockpile the distros you like for future useNov 01 15:08
XRevan86msb_: LSB is good for proprietary of enterprise programs but…Nov 01 15:09
XRevan86they like to not care about LSB and make programs Ubuntu-compliant or RHEL-compliant.Nov 01 15:09
msb_LSB adherence makes it much easier to write and maintain apps, because they can rely on consistent APIs and placement of files across various distros.Nov 01 15:09
XRevan86msb_: And in FOSS programs this is not actually important.Nov 01 15:10
XRevan86> and placement of files across various distrosNov 01 15:10
XRevan86FHSNov 01 15:10
msb_cubexyz: Not practical for most people.Nov 01 15:10
msb_FHS is part of LSB.Nov 01 15:11
XRevan86LSB includes FHSNov 01 15:11
XRevan86msb_: Debian didn't drop FHS if that's what you mean.Nov 01 15:11
XRevan86nearly all distros honour FHS while caring not about LSBNov 01 15:12
msb_Who knows?  But it's dropping other parts of LSB.Nov 01 15:12
msb_This is another sabotage attack on Linux.Nov 01 15:12
XRevan86msb_: Show me a distro that does care about LSB.Nov 01 15:12
msb_https://software.opensuse.org/package/lsbNov 01 15:16
cubexyzSUSE Linux is LSB 4.1 certifiedNov 01 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-software.opensuse.org | software.opensuse.org:Nov 01 15:16
XRevan86cubexyz: SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 isNov 01 15:16
XRevan86SUSE Linux Enterprise 12 isn'tNov 01 15:16
XRevan86openSUSE isn'tNov 01 15:16
msb_Necessary files and dependencies for the Linux Standard Base (LSB) Core.Nov 01 15:17
XRevan86$ lsb_releaseNov 01 15:17
XRevan86LSB Version:n/aNov 01 15:17
XRevan86Description:openSUSE Tumbleweed (20151022) (x86_64)Nov 01 15:17
cubexyzseems that a lot of the Asian Linux distros are LSB certifiedNov 01 15:19
msb_XRevan86: Do you want Linux to be churned and fucked up?  You like systemd despite its horrendous internal complexity that makes it impossible to troubleshoot.Nov 01 15:20
XRevan86msb_: I'm just saying, it hasn't start with Debian.Nov 01 15:20
XRevan86People use distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Arch Linux, openSUSE, Fedora, Mageia…Nov 01 15:21
XRevan86and only Debian has been LSB compliant in this listNov 01 15:22
msb_Yes, and with one network packet the govt can kill them all.Nov 01 15:22
XRevan86Of course, nobody bothers about making programs according to LSB, people make them so they will work on most GNU/Linux distros instead.Nov 01 15:22
XRevan86That's how it turned out.Nov 01 15:23
XRevan86No FSF approved distro supports LSB, by the way.Nov 01 15:24
msb_Every sabotage attack -- systemd, non-adherence to LSB, KDE4/5 -- helps change Linux from a simple, friendly, universal operating system to a fucked-up mess that will end up no better than Windows.Nov 01 15:25
XRevan86except for gNewSense, I guessNov 01 15:25
XRevan86because Debian 7 basedNov 01 15:25
msb_XRevan86: And as long as you think systemd is ok, you will never understand that.Nov 01 15:27
XRevan86msb_: ugh, I clearly see who sabotaged LSBNov 01 15:27
XRevan86msb_: You know who?Nov 01 15:27
XRevan86GNU/Linux developers and GNU/Linux users, that's who.Nov 01 15:28
XRevan86all of themNov 01 15:28
XRevan86all of usNov 01 15:28
msb_Bullshit.  Users don't influence anything.Nov 01 15:28
XRevan86msb_: Users never cared about LSB compliance of their distros.Nov 01 15:29
XRevan86msb_: When I told you about Void Linux, have you asked me whether it is LSB compliant?Nov 01 15:29
XRevan86(because it is not, obviously)Nov 01 15:29
msb_They never even heard of it.  It's up to the distro devs/admins to adhere to standards.Nov 01 15:29
XRevan86msb_: Most of them did.Nov 01 15:29
XRevan86msb_: Ask some Gentoo users, what they think about that Gentoo doesn't support LSB.Nov 01 15:30
msb_XRevan86: What is your point?  Are you saying that adherence to good software engineering principles and standards like LSB aren't important?  That seems to be what you're saying, and you are dead wrong.Nov 01 15:31
XRevan86msb_: What I'm saying is that LSB for years of its existence, never achieved a goal it supposed to.Nov 01 15:33
msb_It's up to the distro devs/admins to adhere to standards and Unix principles.  Because if they don't, and Linux effectively dies, then the Fascists may win and the human race will die as well.Nov 01 15:34
cubexyzit's really under the control of the distro maintainersNov 01 15:34
cubexyzsomeone has to act as the leader and say "This is the direction we are going in"Nov 01 15:35
msb_Yes, and nobody knows why they've all adopted systemd.Nov 01 15:35
msb_I think it's bribery and threats carefully tailored to influential people in each distro.Nov 01 15:36
msb_There are many many examples of bribery in industry that never gets exposed unless some whistleblower does it or there's an investigation with subpoena power.Nov 01 15:37
msb_The CIA and other govt agencies are masters of this sort of corruption.Nov 01 15:38
msb_They did it all through the 20th century.Nov 01 15:39
cubexyzI think busybox has it's own simplified initNov 01 15:39
msb_To entire governments of nations.Nov 01 15:39
cubexyzthere's simplified X server as wellNov 01 15:44
cubexyzalthough I don't think anyone has touched the code in quite some timeNov 01 15:44
cubexyzwell everyone saw the NSA Ant Catalog, so some paranoia is justifiedNov 01 15:57
cubexyzhere's what I use currently:Nov 01 15:58
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/non-systemd-distros-i-use.txtNov 01 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/non-systemd-distros-i-use.txt )Nov 01 15:58
cubexyzno government can erase all of thoseNov 01 15:59
cubexyzBasic Linux 3 uses busybox so init is built-inNov 01 15:59
cubexyzkeep watching distrowatch and stockpile the distrosNov 01 16:03
cubexyzuse what you like, discard what you don'tNov 01 16:04
cubexyzremember that the BSD's existNov 01 16:06
msb_We need a solution for everyone, not just for us experts.Nov 01 16:08
cubexyzchromeos is probably the easiestNov 01 16:09
cubexyzyou buy a chromebook, it's cheap, you got chromeos preloadedNov 01 16:09
cubexyzbetter than the alternative of getting windows 10 by farNov 01 16:09
msb_We heard earlier today that google will kill chromeos unless the user agrees to its new privacy standards.Nov 01 16:10
msb_If so, it's no better than systemd or windows.Nov 01 16:11
cubexyzthey might have a remote kill for stolen chromebooksNov 01 16:13
cubexyznot sure about thatNov 01 16:13
cubexyzyou do have a link about it?Nov 01 16:13
cubexyzthere's no anti-theft or Intel Vpro technology in the Intel Celeron 2955U, the CPU my chromebook usesNov 01 16:50
cubexyzother ones, maybe... I haven't checked them Nov 01 16:51
cubexyzno intel boot guard eitherNov 01 16:51
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msb_schestowitz mentioned it in a tweet, but had no ref.Nov 01 17:05
msb_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6766709  #google is now forcing (hostage situation/ransom) to consent to new #privacy violating policy or be denied access to #chromeOS i.e. one’s PC  -- Dr. Roy Schestowitz.    <schestowitz> Didn't see an article, but they did this to my wife last night... Nov 01 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google is now forcing (hostage situation/ransom) to consent to new #privacy violating policy or be denied access to #chromeOS i.e. one's PCNov 01 17:09
msb_quoted from about 10 hours ago, give or take for daylight saving time switchover.Nov 01 17:12
msb_Should have put quotes around all of that.Nov 01 17:15
msb_If they have a remote kill, it doesn't matter why they have it.Nov 01 17:17
msb_Evil!  Pure and simple, from the Eighth Dimension!Nov 01 17:18
msb_-- The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai (1984)   Superbly funny and clever sci-fi movie.  Highly recommended.Nov 01 17:20
msb_"We are not in the Eighth dimension, we are over New Jersey."Nov 01 17:26
amarsh04I've seen that movie at least twiceNov 01 18:00
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msb_cubexyz: If chromebooks/boxes already come with a known intrusion/kill mechanism that google, and certainly the government, can use, then they are the _last_ computers to recommend to people.  Unless you insist that they remove chromeos and install some kind of Linux, if that's possible.  But didn't I read somewhere that those machines automatically reinstall chromeos if they die?Nov 01 20:45
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cubexyzthere is a lock if your chromebook is deployed as enterprise or educationNov 01 20:51
cubexyzmine is neither... just plain regular chromeosNov 01 20:51
cubexyzlost enterprise/educational chromebooks can be locked remotely... after they are reported stolenNov 01 20:52
cubexyzone can KO the firmware and the OS if they wantNov 01 20:54
cubexyzif chromeos gets corrupted you can perform a factory resetNov 01 20:58
cubexyzone can build their own coreboot firmware tooNov 01 21:00
cubexyzanyone can git clone coreboot and check out the codeNov 01 21:05
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cubexyzwe did have BIOS source ages ago... but AMI, Phoenix, and others came into the picture and everything was closedNov 01 21:30
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msb_cubexyz: What determines whether a chromebook is enterprise/education or regular?  A difference in BIOS code?Nov 02 00:03
cubexyzthere's this:Nov 02 00:07
cubexyzhttps://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/1360534?hl=enNov 02 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.google.com | Enroll Chrome devices - Chrome for Work and Education HelpNov 02 00:07
cubexyzyou have to opt into itNov 02 00:09
msb_cubexyz: Will every Linux run on chromebook/box?Nov 02 00:39
cubexyzdoubtfulNov 02 00:39
cubexyzgiven enough effort yes, but it's optimized for debian and ubuntu via croutonNov 02 00:39
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cubexyzpharma spam alert on tuxmachines... this is a level 10 alert Nov 02 16:53
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cubexyzyou know, I remember the Brand Systems had bundling with MS-DOS but really I always bought whitebox PCs all the way back to 1986Nov 02 18:15
cubexyzthey just "preloaded" copies of stuff on the hard drive to get you startedNov 02 18:15
cubexyzit was IBM and Amstrad and Commodore that bundled on there PCsNov 02 18:16
cubexyzs/there/their/Nov 02 18:16
msb_cubexyz: " <cubexyz> pharma spam alert on tuxmachines... this is a level 10 alert " What???  Are the missiles flying?Nov 02 18:18
cubexyzno missilesNov 02 18:18
cubexyzjust pharma spamNov 02 18:18
cubexyztuxmachines needs to moderate moreNov 02 18:19
msb_Looks like it doesn't moderate at all.Nov 02 18:22
msb_But I think Level 10 Alert is reserved for an ELE.Nov 02 18:25
msb_Where Téa Leoni commits suicide in order to briefly reconcile with her estranged father.  That movie made a deep impact on me.  Yecch!Nov 02 18:36
msb_And (I'm just rambling here) the second season of her TV series Madame Secretary is all about how evil Russia is.  Scripts written by the US govt to negate Russia's success in fighting ISIL, which is supported by the US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel.Nov 02 18:40
msb_WiFi/AI Barbie Doll!  http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/hell-no-barbie-a-campaign-spreading-awareness-about-hello-barbie-a-new-doll-with-big-brother-ish-capabilities/Nov 02 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vigilantcitizen.com | "Hell No Barbie" Campaign Warns About "Hello Barbie", a New Doll With Big Brother-ish Capabilities - The Vigilant CitizenNov 02 18:46
cubexyzdid you know the NT4 kernel was all in C? there's no C++Nov 02 18:48
cubexyzusermod stuff seems mostly C++Nov 02 18:49
cubexyzusermodeNov 02 18:50
msb_Russians again?Nov 02 18:50
cubexyzcould be, this guy's first name was Igor :)Nov 02 18:51
msb_Not that anyone would want to compile and run Windows, but it would be interesting if MS stole any GPLed code and used it secretly.Nov 02 18:54
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cubexyzit's very bloatedNov 02 19:00
cubexyzM$ was clever, there is the MSDN Academic AllianceNov 02 19:05
cubexyzProfessors can see the source code of windows provided they sign an agreement that says  but any changes/additions they make become the property of MicrosoftNov 02 19:06
cubexyzs/but//Nov 02 19:07
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FreiheitExpert/status/660718187508449280    https://twitter.com/FreiheitExpert/status/660718285499990017  https://twitter.com/FreiheitExpert/status/660718345059102721Nov 02 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreiheitExpert: @schestowitz I cannot retweet this.Nov 02 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreiheitExpert: So I am wondering how this plays out for academic libraries.... https://t.co/9of8lQ7Gx3Nov 02 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Library of Congress issues exemptions to #DMCA anti-circumvention provisions but leaves users without full control https://t.co/hgYHQfweygNov 02 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreiheitExpert: @schestowitz Nevermind I can now...Nov 02 20:32
schestowitzGood, I was out of Town until tonight... hence could not replyNov 02 20:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/660818195859812353Nov 02 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz going to try Deepin. They don’t have a BitTorrent link so best to look for a mirror nearby. Default link is very slow.Nov 02 20:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/660823467869257728Nov 02 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Just about what I'd expect for a proprietary operating system designed to be inextricably linked to proprietary services.Nov 02 20:35
schestowitzYes, well, but what when the laptop user does not use it as Google intended (e.g. dual boot)?Nov 02 20:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RamiSilawi/status/660841530488418304Nov 02 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RamiSilawi: .@schestowitz Tried #Chromixium? OpenBox + Ubuntu LTS + Chrome(ium) launchers and app menu.Nov 02 20:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tonycalhoun00/status/660879213831061504Nov 02 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonycalhoun00: @schestowitz @jeremycline1975 some of it is just a grudge against a type of individualNov 02 20:36
schestowitzYes, with justification as afterthoughtNov 02 20:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/660916421778653186Nov 02 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz That awkward moment... https://t.co/do4E6hfRC0 #england #CivilRights #privacy #SurveillanceState https://t.co/AObMb6DVspNov 02 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sunnation.co.uk | Theresa May will refuse to allow judges to sign off spying warrants - Sun NationNov 02 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz That awkward moment... https://t.co/do4E6hfRC0 #england #CivilRights #privacy #SurveillanceState https://t.co/AObMb6DVspNov 02 20:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/660939655215513600Nov 02 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s snooper’s charter @schestowitz https://t.co/x6M7RF7QTjNov 02 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s snooper’s charter - cartoon | Comment is free | The GuardianNov 02 20:37
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schestowitzCame back after two days in #AltonTowers wondering if #gchq also intercepts all rides' photos, like it does Angry Bird etc. (collect it all)Nov 02 20:38
schestowitzhttp://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/01/martin-rowson-on-theresa-mays-snoopers-charter-cartoonNov 02 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s snooper’s charter - cartoon | Comment is free | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/o86gm ]Nov 02 20:40
schestowitzIt was a 1k key, it's too weak now, new one is 4kNov 02 20:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lohphat/status/661233091193602049Nov 02 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lohphat: @schestowitz @mattburgess1 Conservatives don't like others talking behind their back. They have power, they want all of yours too.Nov 02 20:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ProfPearce/status/661256489986686976Nov 02 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProfPearce: Useful? Preempetive strikes on #3dprinting #patenttrolls https://t.co/N0wrZrxge8 @killpatenttroll @EFF @schestowitz https://t.co/uuxOrrlQ1rNov 02 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.academia.edu | A Novel Approach to Obviousness: An Algorithm for Identifying Prior Art Concerning 3-D Printing Materials | Joshua Pearce - Academia.eduNov 02 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProfPearce: Useful? Preempetive strikes on #3dprinting #patenttrolls https://t.co/N0wrZrxge8 @killpatenttroll @EFF @schestowitz https://t.co/uuxOrrlQ1rNov 02 20:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jeremycline1975/status/661282476615147520Nov 02 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jeremycline1975: @schestowitz @tonycalhoun00 Absolutely right.Nov 02 20:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jeremycline1975/status/661283841198432256Nov 02 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jeremycline1975: @schestowitz @tonycalhoun00 And they've been smart enough to crowd-source the surveillance and "evidence" gathering.Nov 02 20:51
schestowitzExternalising the damageNov 02 20:51
schestowitz[06:40] <msb_> schestowitz: cubexyz: Can google shut down chromebooks/boxes remotely against the owner's wishes?  Nov 02 20:52
schestowitzCan brick itNov 02 20:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DJI uses Linux for drones Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/seerb7nzcO (techcrunch.com)Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ENOCJQ9Ttb (www.pcworld.com)Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/9XLzLOZACy (www.engadget.com)Nov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | DJI Teams Up With Canonical To Launch Embedded Computer For Drones | TechCrunchNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1HXblBtscp (toxcy.com)Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86tlNov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | This hardware development platform can fly -- literally | PCWorldNov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | DJI wants you to build sentient drones with its tiny computerNov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toxcy.com | DJI Manifold computer is meant to control a drone | ToxcyNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside Canonical: the creators of Ubuntu haveNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 big plans for the futureNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zbxUVT58Sn (www.alphr.com)Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86tmNov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | Inside Canonical: the creators of Ubuntu have big plans for the future | AlphrNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keeping Linux Clean https://t.co/x7IY0Mvvg0Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86tnNov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Keeping Linux Clean | Tux MachinesNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New DJI drone computer runs Ubuntu on Tegra,Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 has open SDK https://t.co/Oe1YPvU9IxNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86tpNov 02 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New DJI drone computer runs Ubuntu on Tegra, has open SDK | Tux MachinesNov 02 21:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside Canonical: the creators of Ubuntu haveNov 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 big plans for the futureNov 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kO6gHLVrVo (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86tqNov 02 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Inside Canonical: the creators of Ubuntu have big plans for the future | Tux MachinesNov 02 21:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kodi 16.0 to Ship with Multi-Touch Support forNov 02 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/zy6y0fQAF5Nov 02 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 22:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86ziNov 02 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kodi 16.0 to Ship with Multi-Touch Support for Linux | Tux MachinesNov 02 22:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC andNov 02 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Firefox Compliance https://t.co/XYhgjj4hOvNov 02 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 22:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86zjNov 02 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC and Firefox Compliance | Tux MachinesNov 02 22:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Trying out Linux can be simpleNov 02 22:15
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/MJ0uI5C1ovNov 02 22:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.eastbourneherald.co.uk)Nov 02 22:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o86zkNov 02 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eastbourneherald.co.uk | Trying out Linux can be simple - Eastbourne HeraldNov 02 22:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds launches Linux kernel 4.3Nov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6Fikveo3WONov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerweekly.com) distraction:Nov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TBjVy4AC9H (gizmodo.com)Nov 02 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Linus Torvalds launches Linux kernel 4.3 - Open Source InsiderNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o875jNov 02 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | You Don't Need To Understand Programming to Appreciate This Awesome RantNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside BlackBerry's last-ditch plan to win youNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 back with Android https://t.co/3oHP6jhoFsNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.cnet.com)Nov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o875kNov 02 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Inside BlackBerry's last-ditch plan to win you back with Android - CNETNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC andNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Firefox Compliance https://t.co/ly4gEzVC9YNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o875lNov 02 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Has a Really Good Week, Gets First RC and Firefox Compliance - SoftpediaNov 02 22:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 6.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 4.1,Nov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Drops 32-bit Builds https://t.co/dw3P0FlWYYNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o876aNov 02 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenELEC 6.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 4.1, Drops 32-bit Builds - SoftpediaNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 15.09 (Bellatrix) Now Has Working AMDNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Catalyst Drivers for Linux Kernel 4.2Nov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VTtKCsxu52 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o876bNov 02 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro 15.09 (Bellatrix) Now Has Working AMD Catalyst Drivers for Linux Kernel 4.2 - SoftpediaNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Facebook forces some workers to switch fromNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 iPhone to Android to reflect majority of usersNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 & new markets https://t.co/tmF4AdvUbKNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (appleinsider.com)Nov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o876cNov 02 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appleinsider.com | Facebook forces some workers to switch from iPhone to Android to reflect majority of users & new marketsNov 02 22:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Daniel Craig resisted Android phone placementNov 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 in "Spectre" because "James Bond only uses theNov 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 best" https://t.co/cTcIMPsTokNov 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (appleinsider.com)Nov 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8773Nov 02 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appleinsider.com | Daniel Craig resisted Android phone placement in "Spectre" because "James Bond only uses the best"Nov 02 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android smartphones for work and play:Nov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 November 2015 edition https://t.co/9q2aFGF0A5Nov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Nov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8774Nov 02 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android smartphones for work and play: November 2015 edition | ZDNetNov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     fedora Release Dates: It’s On-Time When It’sNov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Ready https://t.co/W1WAQmJnGQ (fossforce.com)Nov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o8775Nov 02 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Release Dates: It's On-Time When It's Ready | FOSS ForceNov 02 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PSA: Do NOT upgrade FreeIPA servers to FedoraNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 23 yet https://t.co/5yF7QnAU5TNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.happyassassin.net)Nov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87aoNov 02 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.happyassassin.net/2015/11/01/psa-do-not-upgrade-freeipa-servers-to-fedora-23-yet/ )Nov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 23: A walk through my favorite LinuxNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 installer - Anaconda https://t.co/1sIR6bxNMGNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Nov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87apNov 02 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Fedora 23: A walk through my favorite Linux installer - Anaconda | ZDNetNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Join The Power Linux EvolutionNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oQdlRpSXWb (www.itjungle.com)Nov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87aqNov 02 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | The Four Hundred--How To Join The Power Linux EvolutionNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where to find high-quality, Linux-compatibleNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 music https://t.co/J8kUi3yuVl (opensource.com)Nov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87arNov 02 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Linux-compatible places to get high-quality digital music | Opensource.comNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     European Parliament wants EU institutions toNov 02 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 switch to open source https://t.co/3H84uQYLP2Nov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87atNov 02 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | European Parliament wants EU institutions to switch to open source | Tux MachinesNov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Join The Power Linux EvolutionNov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/iBPsYjItSz (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87auNov 02 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Join The Power Linux Evolution | Tux MachinesNov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where to find high-quality, Linux-compatibleNov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 music https://t.co/CC72DO4yS5Nov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87avNov 02 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Where to find high-quality, Linux-compatible music | Tux MachinesNov 02 23:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How can you make a drone better? Install LinuxNov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 on it! https://t.co/LXwOZBP2M0Nov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87c4Nov 02 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How can you make a drone better? Install Linux on it! | Tux MachinesNov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6Nov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 released https://t.co/GGBHO9UGfoNov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Nov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87c6Nov 02 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6 released | Tux MachinesNov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best #android phones listNov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/C5Ka4Mj4Ew (www.geeksnack.com)Nov 02 23:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87c7Nov 02 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeksnack.com | Best Android phones of 2015 so far - GeekSnackNov 02 23:23
schestowitz"systemd people are not willing to play nice with the rest of the world. Therefore there is no reason for the rest of the world to cooperate with them."Nov 02 23:23
*TweetTuxMachines @pkoutoupis favourited 'Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/lgaURXqRzj'Nov 02 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.3-rc7 | Tux MachinesNov 02 23:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source R Code to Get New Hub with HelpNov 02 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 from the Linux FoundationNov 02 23:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IU1GBedXZd (thevarguy.com)Nov 02 23:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o87e5Nov 02 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Open Source R Code to Get New Hub with Help from the Linux Foundation | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyNov 02 23:33
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XFaCE[10:59:47]<cubexyz> Basic Linux 3 uses busybox so init is built-inNov 03 00:21
XFaCEwhat about Alpine Linux?Nov 03 00:21
cubexyzhow can you be not here? :)Nov 03 00:22
cubexyzanyways BL3 uses a very compact system using an old 2.2 kernel and a smaller version of XNov 03 00:23
cubexyzany other distro that uses busybox should also have the built-in initNov 03 00:23
cubexyzoh wait a secNov 03 00:24
cubexyzlooks like alpine uses OpenRCNov 03 00:24
cubexyzstill, Alpine looks like a decent non-systemd distroNov 03 00:25
cubexyzAlpine does look interesting with musl libc, I will try it sometimeNov 03 00:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steam for Linux Usage Is on the Rise and GetsNov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Closer to 1% https://t.co/GsNPYx7f2XNov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Nov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886vNov 03 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Steam for Linux Usage Is on the Rise and Gets Closer to 1% - SoftpediaNov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Old, not obsolete: IBM takes Linux mainframesNov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 back to the future https://t.co/piNa95hujfNov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Nov 03 01:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/o886wNov 03 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Old, not obsolete: IBM takes Linux mainframes back to the future