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| schestowitz | > Are you the principal and founder of the Diaspora Foundation? From what I see it looks like it could be an improvement of the incredibly popular, Facebook. | Jan 03 04:06 |
| schestowitz | I write a lot there, but I'm no management there. I don't even develop there. It's like the anti-Facebook, for several reasons. | Jan 03 04:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6940160 | Jan 03 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debian, please plan for Stretch https://nthykier.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/debian-please-plan-for-stretch/ #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 03 04:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nthykier.wordpress.com | Debian, please plan for Stretch | nthykier | Jan 03 04:08 | |
| schestowitz | "what about able to install #systemd free distro?" | Jan 03 04:08 |
| schestowitz | "I don’t think Debian will allow that going forward. | Jan 03 04:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 03 04:08 |
| schestowitz | Devuan | Jan 03 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet | Jan 03 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr (blog.jolla.com) | Jan 03 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WjaAj3OUb6 (linuxg.net) #nokia | Jan 03 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #finland #sailfishos | Jan 03 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjtb | Jan 03 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 03 04:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Jolla Cannot Ship Tablets To All Their Backers, But Will Reward The Unlucky Fans | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 04:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Unikernel Firewall for #QubesOS | Jan 03 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qHBor2j3nx (roscidus.com) | Jan 03 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #freesw | Jan 03 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjtn | Jan 03 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-roscidus.com | A Unikernel Firewall for QubesOS - Thomas Leonard's blog | Jan 03 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn’t do no | Jan 03 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | drugs https://t.co/120kcKMclj | Jan 03 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.darknedgy.net) "concise tour of | Jan 03 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | microkernel myths and misconceptions" | Jan 03 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjto | Jan 03 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.darknedgy.net | Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn't do no drugs | Jan 03 04:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rawhide year in review https://t.co/sVKG924Uy0 | Jan 03 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.scrye.com) | Jan 03 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjtp | Jan 03 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scrye.com | Rawhide year in review – Kevin's musings | Jan 03 04:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool | Jan 03 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WWuUEQ9vn9 (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2lN7b0efnG (github.com) | Jan 03 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sHNurznRx9 (lists.debian.org) | Jan 03 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odju1 | Jan 03 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool - Phoronix | Jan 03 04:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Managing Debian packages with cme · dod38fr/config-model Wiki · GitHub | Jan 03 04:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @3RDI_TEK favourited 'A Unikernel Firewall for #QubesOS https://t.co/qHBor2j3nx #security #freesw' | Jan 03 04:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/01/msg00000.html ) | Jan 03 04:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool https://t.co/WWuUEQ9vn9 https://t.co/2lN7b0efnG...' | Jan 03 04:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Firejail - Sandbox for Linux, wanna build a | Jan 03 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | castle? https://t.co/qGdIQyzQFP | Jan 03 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.dedoimedo.com) | Jan 03 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Firejail - Sandbox for Linux, wanna build a castle? | Jan 03 04:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjul | Jan 03 04:20 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @JollaBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr...' | Jan 03 04:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 03 04:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The big Android 6.0 Marshmallow update list: | Jan 03 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Start of 2015 edition | Jan 03 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wITGZskRRz (www.gsmarena.com) | Jan 03 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjvk | Jan 03 04:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | The big Android 6.0 Marshmallow update list: Start of 2015 edition - GSMArena.com news | Jan 03 04:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Access Without Empowerment (LibrePlanet 2015 | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keynote) | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yrlJaz4cnX (mako.cc) | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjw3 | Jan 03 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mako.cc | Access Without Empowerment (LibrePlanet 2015 Keynote) – copyrighteous | Jan 03 04:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE Desktop Has Been Spotted On Ubuntu Touch | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4ExrONtVd3 (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjw4 | Jan 03 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | MATE Desktop Has Been Spotted On Ubuntu Touch | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 04:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux distributions, which one is perfect for | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you? https://t.co/KBKNF2snTq (www.marksei.com) | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjw5 | Jan 03 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marksei.com | Linux distributions, which one is perfect for you? – Marksei | Jan 03 04:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3z717b/linux_tablet_for_modification/ | Jan 03 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux tablet for modification : linux | Jan 03 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | done this beofre... | Jan 03 04:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unity 8 Will Permit The Users To Swipe Between | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps While In Full Screen | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/25Fg96REPu (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwm | Jan 03 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Unity 8 Will Permit The Users To Swipe Between Apps While In Full Screen | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 04:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Deepin OS 15 - I'M IN LOVE! | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Os6TGzviLM (www.youtube.com) | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwn | Jan 03 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Deepin OS 15 - I'M IN LOVE! - YouTube | Jan 03 04:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PHP 7.0 packages released | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oduM69rnGV (www.archlinux.org) | Jan 03 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwo | Jan 03 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: PHP 7.0 packages released | Jan 03 04:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/683586991276081156 | Jan 03 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Wow!!!!!!!!! https://t.co/xlwJ8Naxv8 | Jan 03 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: OSjs Is A New Javascript Based Open Source Operating System Running In Your Browser https://t.co/bBtPTqBcAu #freesw | Jan 03 05:03 | |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/92191/the-bsd-black-box-bsd-now-122/ | Jan 03 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | The BSD Black Box | BSD Now 122 | Jupiter Broadcasting [ http://ur1.ca/odk0c ] | Jan 03 05:33 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 03 05:33 |
| schestowitz | > a little on LLVM (vs GCC) and console development. M$ aggressively | Jan 03 05:33 |
| schestowitz | > pursuing... | Jan 03 05:33 |
| schestowitz | Apple also... | Jan 03 05:33 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: before LLVM Microsoft was demanding puring their own complier for console development. | Jan 03 05:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chakuari/status/683597794570014720 | Jan 03 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chakuari: @alexanderhanff @schestowitz would you suggest Slackware today? | Jan 03 05:37 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: now they embrace it to harm GCC, I think | Jan 03 05:37 |
| schestowitz | copyleft | Jan 03 05:37 |
| schestowitz | RMS complained about this | Jan 03 05:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there is many sides to it. | Jan 03 05:38 |
| oiaohm | 1 MS and Apple own compliers have been able to keep up with C and C++ standards. | Jan 03 05:39 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Jan 03 05:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 03 05:39 |
| schestowitz | > x http://blog.teleri.net/open-microsoft/ | Jan 03 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.teleri.net | Open Microsoft | Jan 03 05:39 | |
| schestowitz | (Standard disclaimer: I write for me, not Microsoft, despite working there) | Jan 03 05:39 |
| schestowitz | LOL - writing for one's wallet. | Jan 03 05:39 |
| oiaohm | 2 Gcc does not allow them extended it. | Jan 03 05:39 |
| oiaohm | So LLVM is BSD and Unix all over again. | Jan 03 05:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LavieRemi/status/683599601555927041 | Jan 03 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LavieRemi: Tu es animateur BAFA ? inscris toi sur animyjob c'est 100% gratuit https://t.co/5oezR8s2UY #bafa https://t.co/OTMIAWmAQc | Jan 03 05:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'animyjob.com' ( status 0 @ http://animyjob.com ) | Jan 03 05:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Facebook the enemy of truth and civic unity? https://t.co/8GJVNyYPgk #facebook a truly VILE company, not "social" or friend | Jan 03 05:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Nexus 6P Review - Android Overdose | Jan 03 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0A5whqGHYr (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 03 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odk2a | Jan 03 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google Nexus 6P Review - Android Overdose | Jan 03 05:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RlrXs0AmrR (www.infoworld.com) | Jan 03 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odk2b | Jan 03 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 05:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016 Won't Be Exciting For Linux Desktop | Jan 03 05:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enthusiasts https://t.co/ZWTVTs3ocd | Jan 03 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odk2c | Jan 03 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | CES 2016 Won't Be Too Exciting For Linux Desktop Enthusiasts - Phoronix | Jan 03 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | >>> old: | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> x http://blog.teleri.net/open-microsoft/ | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > (Standard disclaimer: I write for me, not Microsoft, despite working there) | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > LOL - writing for one's wallet. | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | > I lost the link (or sent it already) but there is a case about | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | > disparagement clauses in contracts. If those are found to be invalid, | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | > then maybe some former softers can come out of the cold. | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Even after leaving the company, in some cases... | Jan 03 06:08 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the ex-MSFT who complained about the MSFT tax dodge... his site is gone. He didn't renew, so it's down the sinkhole, Web Archive, or sites that refer to it and sometimes quote from it.... | Jan 03 06:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/683639807759769600 | Jan 03 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz If a product is apparently free then you are the product. | Jan 03 08:24 | |
| oiaohm | The fact that the possibility of Linux desktops being at CES is something new in it self. | Jan 03 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7FgMY8wPjT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odkdm | Jan 03 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 08:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines State of the Red Hat union is secur | Jan 03 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cqUVveN4Um (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odkdo | Jan 03 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | State of the Red Hat union is secur | Tux Machines | Jan 03 08:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683640120264769537 | Jan 03 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz The #freemium model. | Jan 03 08:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/683641056534073344 | Jan 03 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @chakuari @schestowitz I dont know I havent used it for over a decade | Jan 03 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Drew_R_Pearce/status/683641509749592065 | Jan 03 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Drew_R_Pearce: We see these platforms as 'neutral' but can shape interactions, I wonder if we could see #opensource alt in future. https://t.co/U1xmwpihOa | Jan 03 08:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How long before #twitter pulls another #facebook & decides to do 'experiments', like manipulating what people do in timelines. Neutrality? | Jan 03 08:43 | |
| schestowitz | There's Diaspora already, the main one that I use, but it's small | Jan 03 08:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/683641774615719936 | Jan 03 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz I find twitter handy to point me at news stories I've missed - I mostly avoid FB (my mother is on it!) | Jan 03 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nyakasanga/status/683641976651149312 | Jan 03 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nyakasanga: @schestowitz join Facebook | Jan 03 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683642549987315713 | Jan 03 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz For anyone else: https://t.co/gAT5t5cba5 and never hesitate to join the #backuptheinternetproject ;-) | Jan 03 08:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> archive.org | Internet Archive: Wayback Machine | Jan 03 08:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Drew_R_Pearce/status/683646174625198085 | Jan 03 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Drew_R_Pearce: @schestowitz (and I mean a larger portion of users) | Jan 03 08:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/683654030829195264 | Jan 03 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz if only routers were not closed and limited as fr ok m major ISPs | Jan 03 09:28 | |
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| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4U0KBvzi7g | Jan 03 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Shriekback - This Big Hush - YouTube | Jan 03 11:13 | |
| schestowitz | In the following page the latest 3 items relate to the experience of an SME: | Jan 03 12:06 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Jan 03 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jan 03 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | I hope that some time soon the parliamentary aspect of this story will become safe to publicise too. | Jan 03 12:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will | Jan 03 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Receive One https://t.co/o2qDwfoYyq | Jan 03 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3u | Jan 03 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will Receive One | Tux Machines | Jan 03 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been | Jan 03 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/WOQxPS2mBE (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3v | Jan 03 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been Released | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Jan 03 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tFTgBPoqEy (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3x | Jan 03 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 - Phoronix | Jan 03 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been | Jan 03 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/WOQxPS2mBE (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3y | Jan 03 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro #Fluxbox 15.12 released | Jan 03 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JJUgAkFzYC (manjaro.github.io) | Jan 03 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3z | Jan 03 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Jan 03 12:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines State of the #RedHat union is secure | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nfAFB7EXxS (www.albawaba.com) | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ghgoy3Mn0T | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (theenterpriseleader.com) | Jan 03 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albawaba.com | State of the Red Hat union is secur | Al Bawaba | Jan 03 13:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theenterpriseleader.com | Growth Score By Zacks: Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Jan 03 13:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Receive One https://t.co/PTQCOOm3dP | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 13:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will Receive One - Phoronix | Jan 03 13:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Founder’s Last Tweets About a Police | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encounter Saved on Archive . is | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xPeLJrDNf5 (observer.com) | Jan 03 13:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl6a | Jan 03 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-observer.com | Debian Founder’s Last Tweets About a Police Encounter Saved on Archive.is | | Observer | Jan 03 13:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/uXFZXXx6L7 | Jan 03 13:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/fxDBaRrov7 | Jan 03 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 13:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/wuHc9l8fFR | Jan 03 13:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released | Jan 03 13:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/683654432802902016 | Jan 03 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @FredSimonEU nice 2 meet u again 6 yrs after our BXL meeting on antitrust/mergers/IP and my EurActiv contribution | Jan 03 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | lobbying? | Jan 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/patent-amendments-not-allowed-during.html?showComment=1451782911326#c3864190626744412351 | Jan 03 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Patent amendments not allowed during court proceedngs, rules Malaysia's highest court [ http://ur1.ca/odle9 ] | Jan 03 13:55 | |
| schestowitz | "The decision of the Malaysian Federal Court is self-evidently foolish (I am always reluctant to use the word 'wrong' about rulings of final appellate courts). However, it is not uncommon across jurisdictions for a court to convince itself of the fallacy that a dependent claim is somehow fatally 'infected' by the invalidity of its associated independent claim. Fortunately, this usually happens before some judge at first instance who is | Jan 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | relatively inexperienced in patent law, and either remains an irrelevant curiosity, or is corrected on appeal." | Jan 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/683659000504778752 | Jan 03 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @FOSSpatents safety nets? | Jan 03 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | see context: | Jan 03 13:57 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/patent-amendments-not-allowed-during.html?showComment=1451820742114#c9047948031229625128 | Jan 03 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Patent amendments not allowed during court proceedngs, rules Malaysia's highest court [ http://ur1.ca/odlen ] | Jan 03 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: nice one... | Jan 03 13:58 |
| schestowitz | !google apple pregnant safety nets | Jan 03 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - What Foods You Should Eat (and Not Eat) When Pregnant « | http://kimberlysnyder.com/blog/2012/02/07/what-foods-you-should-eat-and-not-eat-when-pregnant/ | Jan 03 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Apple consumption during pregnancy reduces risk for childhood ... | http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/67314.php | Jan 03 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Why Avoid Non-Organic Foods During Pregnancy? | http://www.healingourchildren.net/Pregnancy_Diet/Why_Avoid_Non.html | Jan 03 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Supplier Responsibility Standards - Apple | https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple_Supplier_Responsibility_Standards.pdf | Jan 03 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I guess only [4] turned out to be relevant, and Apple spin | Jan 03 13:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Jan 03 14:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DjfTmUjrsT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 14:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 14:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/hw6ZXHd2a5 | Jan 03 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 03 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Reproducible Builds | Jan 03 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Reproducible Builds | Tux Machines | Jan 03 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE New Year https://t.co/BAFFPvYmWK | Jan 03 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE New Year | Tux Machines | Jan 03 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/bq4G7Kyiii | Jan 03 14:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for Fedora and OpenSUSE | Tux Machines | Jan 03 14:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2016/01/worlds-greatest-spy-movies-c4-trailer.html | Jan 03 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anniemachon.ch | World’s Greatest Spy Movies – C4 Trailer - Using Our Intelligence - Annie Machon | Jan 03 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/683711552604749829 | Jan 03 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Keep in mind that Alison Brimelow isn't so innocent! Evil events at the EPO started possibly even long before her presidency! | Jan 03 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714277425967104 https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714465968295936 | Jan 03 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz actually the Hammonds, who are white, were prosecuted as terrorists for starting a fire on their land that spread to fed land | Jan 03 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz this "this would be called terrorism if not for race" bit is getting tired. equivalent of "i'm not gonna call you a dick but... | Jan 03 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714697254825984 | Jan 03 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz how many people saying "this would/should be terrorism" and "this IS terrorism" does it take to reject claim no one's doing it? | Jan 03 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/david_jansen/status/683730911062523905 | Jan 03 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@david_jansen: @schestowitz @digital_human for extra slow mail delivery ;-) | Jan 03 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/683731225513693184 | Jan 03 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: awful; & #climatechange likely to spread this widely across Americas... https://t.co/a7Q1ccqF7L | Jan 03 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qz: A virus linked to shrinking newborns' brains is spreading rapidly beyond Brazil https://t.co/X7znICyMpa https://t.co/JQXAkHhW22 | Jan 03 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johngoode/status/682487228237541376 | Jan 03 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johngoode: BBC website down. Not a mention of it from official Beeb social media channels. #ddos? | Jan 03 14:57 | |
| cubexyz | Facebook, Apple, & Microsoft are basically evil | Jan 03 15:45 |
| schestowitz | not just them | Jan 03 15:45 |
| cubexyz | believe it or not I think Facebook might be the least evil of the three | Jan 03 15:45 |
| schestowitz | and some are more evil in certain ways than others | Jan 03 15:45 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, in some ways | Jan 03 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Facebook at least uses a lot of Linux and BSD | Jan 03 15:46 |
| schestowitz | and its main issues are surveillance and censorship, not attacks on net neutrality | Jan 03 15:46 |
| schestowitz | (which in itself is a serious issue) | Jan 03 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/8fA9cePtF6 | Jan 03 15:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 15:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/bq4G7Kyiii | Jan 03 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @TecnologiaFree (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 15:46 |
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| cubexyz | Apple might be the worst: the Anti-Packardian Entity of Conspicuous Consumption | Jan 03 15:47 |
| cubexyz | make everyone continually dissatisifed with their possessions, hence new possessions must be acquired | Jan 03 15:48 |
| cubexyz | the idea that people can re-purpose things seems to be rather novel | Jan 03 15:49 |
| cubexyz | well Facebook _can_ actually be good | Jan 03 15:53 |
| cubexyz | https://www.facebook.com/RepurposedThings | Jan 03 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.facebook.com | Repurposed Recycled Reused Reclaimed Restored | Jan 03 15:54 | |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit in awe of previous generations | Jan 03 15:55 |
| cubexyz | the patience required for knitting socks for example... | Jan 03 15:56 |
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| cubexyz | ok, should be able to round up some of the KDE orphans today | Jan 03 16:44 |
| schestowitz | "Now comes the news that the movie has propelled the domestic box office to its greatest revenues ever in 2015, topping $11 billion for the first time." | Jan 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/star-wars-is-making-zillions-of-dollars | Jan 03 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/star-wars-is-making-zillions-of-dollars ) | Jan 03 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | It's a crappy franchise, never liked it... | Jan 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | [07:21] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt | Jan 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | good | Jan 03 18:17 |
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| cubexyz | back in 1977 Star Wars was kind of a big deal | Jan 03 18:25 |
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| cubexyz | still have my 1977 poster: | Jan 03 18:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/star-wars-original-1977-poster.png | Jan 03 18:45 |
| cubexyz | don't bother with it now though | Jan 03 18:46 |
| cubexyz | now the tech from 1977 interests me, but that is about it | Jan 03 18:47 |
| cubexyz | Christmas 1980: | Jan 03 18:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/star-wars-tie-fighter-display.jpg | Jan 03 18:48 |
| cubexyz | oops, wrong pic | Jan 03 18:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/christmas-1980-toytown-star-wars.jpg | Jan 03 18:54 |
| cubexyz | you can see some reflection of yonge street there | Jan 03 18:56 |
| schestowitz | is the movie any good? | Jan 03 18:58 |
| schestowitz | saw the trailer earlier | Jan 03 18:58 |
| schestowitz | seems like it would only appeal to cultists | Jan 03 18:58 |
| cubexyz | well I was about 12 back then :) | Jan 03 18:59 |
| schestowitz | and the reviews average at around 4/5 | Jan 03 18:59 |
| cubexyz | all the kids were talking about it | Jan 03 18:59 |
| cubexyz | yes, as a youngster I liked it, but I haven't seen the original movie in a long time | Jan 03 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenJDK in the News https://t.co/887PAFtwfW | Jan 03 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenJDK in the News | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The way you write https://t.co/YeS4b3ISr4 | Jan 03 19:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The way you write | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software | Jan 03 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 03 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.12 Just Arrived with | Jan 03 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd and OpenRC Flavors | Jan 03 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.12 Just Arrived with systemd and OpenRC Flavors | Tux Machines | Jan 03 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines James Bottomley (formerly of #novell and other | Jan 03 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | companies) on #patent related complications in | Jan 03 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw and #linux https://t.co/7RSOl7IG2U | Jan 03 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.hansenpartnership.com | A Modest Proposal on the DCO | James Bottomley's random Pages | Jan 03 20:33 | |
| cubexyz | maybe that will be the future of linux... systemd and openrc flavours | Jan 03 20:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh | Jan 03 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/ehSEHZNy3O | Jan 03 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for Fedora and OpenSUSE | Jan 03 20:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One way or another, #police intervention killed | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian's father https://t.co/1zMM0lPiaD | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (twitter.com) #assange (Wikileaks) ex-Debian | Jan 03 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: US Debian founder dead shortly after tweeting about police beating: His last tweets: https://t.co/Vr80eQ0bCk https://t.co/4han4kQ9yb | Jan 03 20:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> archive.is | Ian Murdock (@imurdock) | Twitter | Jan 03 20:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: US Debian founder dead shortly after tweeting about police beating: His last tweets: https://t.co/Vr80eQ0bCk https://t.co/4han4kQ9yb | Jan 03 20:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates...' | Jan 03 21:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.12 Just Arrived with systemd...' | Jan 03 21:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for...' | Jan 03 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/P6k3DE4mNH | Jan 03 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 03 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/am8KmV7vwx | Jan 03 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 03 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares | Jan 03 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 03 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Tux Machines | Jan 03 22:23 | |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you know what the deal is with unsermake? | Jan 04 01:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: unsermake has been around for a long time KDE attempt to make something better than the m4 based automake | Jan 04 01:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: key word attempt. Most people building KDE stuff disable unsermake | Jan 04 01:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/CMake/KDE4 as of KDE4 the kde project deprecated unsermake usage and went Cmake. | Jan 04 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techbase.kde.org | Development/Tutorials/CMake/KDE4 - KDE TechBase | Jan 04 01:58 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: exactly what reason have you run into unsermake | Jan 04 01:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | he felt a bump under his car while driving late at night, stopped, got a flashlight, and looked | Jan 04 02:00 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: I was thinking maybe playing around with some old KDE 3/2 code base for some reason. | Jan 04 02:03 |
| cubexyz | thought I'd try to compile kradio | Jan 04 02:07 |
| cubexyz | I used to run this old program simply called 'radio' | Jan 04 02:13 |
| cubexyz | for a win pci fm something or other card | Jan 04 02:13 |
| cubexyz | Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card actually | Jan 04 02:17 |
| cubexyz | anyways, it looks like the old kradio is a bust | Jan 04 02:19 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Cobrian/status/683908372341592064 | Jan 04 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cobrian: @schestowitz A zillion ads, and no link to the video that I could see... | Jan 04 03:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @seclabor #OpenSource 01a is out! https://t.co/U8QJKJeYu3 | Jan 04 04:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Stories via @Security_FAQs | Jan 04 04:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PedroArtino @tuxmachines | Jan 04 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | #OpenSource 01a | Jan 04 04:19 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rdrake98/status/683938808644169729 | Jan 04 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rdrake98: As is typical, the article fails to say how many coal mines, and coal-fired power stations, are open right now https://t.co/c5CnEKAZ58 | Jan 04 04:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #China clamps down on #coal https://t.co/hEmG9DXGi0 | Jan 04 04:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, | Jan 04 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Clement Lefebvre https://t.co/j2HvipZCkP | Jan 04 04:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, Says Clement Lefebvre | Tux Machines | Jan 04 04:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking your Linux computer for a better | Jan 04 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | listening experience https://t.co/YPgYTnHiRv | Jan 04 04:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacking your Linux computer for a better listening experience | Tux Machines | Jan 04 04:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports | Jan 04 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GStreamer 1.0, New Gadu-Gadu Library | Jan 04 04:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/inoAJvDuFR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 04:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoad | Jan 04 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports GStreamer 1.0, New Gadu-Gadu Library | Tux Machines | Jan 04 04:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Stallman Cycle https://t.co/EUbY5EgRRn | Jan 04 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Jan 04 04:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hiking a mountain with Ian #Murdock | Jan 04 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VVLhVzRYAR | Jan 04 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (changelog.complete.org) | Jan 04 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoai | Jan 04 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt ) | Jan 04 04:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Hiking a mountain with Ian Murdock | The Changelog | Jan 04 04:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The way you write https://t.co/635NHD2Mpo | Jan 04 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (standardsandfreedom.net) | Jan 04 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoaj | Jan 04 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standardsandfreedom.net | The way you write | Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards | Jan 04 04:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “welcome a Linux-running PS4” | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xwDhJThCD0 (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odob8 | Jan 04 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Here's your Linux-booting PS4, says fail0verflow • The Register | Jan 04 05:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The open source Itch games store app needs | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | translators https://t.co/5KmZut30mY | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odob9 | Jan 04 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The open source Itch games store app needs translators | GamingOnLinux | Jan 04 05:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: What To Expect From Android Police's | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coverage Of The World's Biggest Tech Show | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6CGSS4EfAo (www.androidpolice.com) | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoba | Jan 04 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | CES 2016: What To Expect From Android Police's Coverage Of The World's Biggest Tech Show | Jan 04 05:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/683952862037020672 | Jan 04 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: #Debian Well, not quite ;-) date +%s 1451902031 https://t.co/4Fa2fl9j5s | Jan 04 05:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Happy 1.5 Billion #Unix Seconds https://t.co/7k5z0Acwe9 | Jan 04 05:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five Android Tablet Tricks For Your Lounge Room | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cCxiuOjtbg (www.gizmodo.com.au) | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odod1 | Jan 04 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Five Android Tablet Tricks For Your Lounge Room | Gizmodo Australia | Jan 04 05:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Does the Use of Docker Effect Latency? | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w6cIq96Pu0 (highscalability.com) | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "characteristics are pretty much | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | indistinguishable from Linux itself." | Jan 04 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-highscalability.com | How Does the Use of Docker Effect Latency? - High Scalability - | Jan 04 05:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odod2 | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based #CalculateLinux 15.12 Distro | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings AMDGPU Driver Support, QupZilla | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3Zf38b5NpL (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odod4 | Jan 04 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 15.12 Distro Brings AMDGPU Driver Support, QupZilla | Jan 04 05:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Can you use Free Software editors for more | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | than applying a pretty effects...?" | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pyGiL6V6Rh (www.ocsmag.com) | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ododp | Jan 04 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | The Video Editing Challenge – Part II: Natron | OCS-Mag | Jan 04 05:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nfbx57he2i (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/t9BKTdCvNf (solus-project.com) | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ododq | Jan 04 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 05:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #16 | Solus Project | Jan 04 05:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FZRJ1Mw2q5 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ododr | Jan 04 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 04 05:23 | |
| <--amarsh04 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jan 04 05:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/z_eisberg/status/683955820518879232 | Jan 04 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@z_eisberg: RT @schestowitz "Can you use Free Software editors for more than applying a pretty effects...?" https://t.co/jwrbQa7fXs ... | Jan 04 05:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DanFreysinger/status/683958144255410177 | Jan 04 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DanFreysinger: @schestowitz Terrorism - the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. #OregonUnderAttack | Jan 04 05:31 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Regarding your Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card, I think I used to have one of those without the FM, and I don't remember what drivers it used, but now I have a higher-rez Avermedia card that uses the standard v4l video-for-Linux drivers. Have you looked at those? The FM might be included. | Jan 04 05:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AlrightRodders/status/683958730715693057 | Jan 04 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AlrightRodders: @DanFreysinger @schestowitz and yet they haven't fired or shot or taken a hostage or blown themselves up. They're just there. | Jan 04 05:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaiaLogic/status/683958807244988416 | Jan 04 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaiaLogic: @schestowitz You don't get to redefine a word because the truth makes you a terrorist sympathizer. | Jan 04 05:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaiaLogic/status/683958955656253440 | Jan 04 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaiaLogic: @schestowitz Definition includes threats to kill or maim, which they have done, for a political ideology = TERRORISTS. | Jan 04 05:32 | |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Police threaten to kill or maim every day for political ideologies like drug and tax laws. | Jan 04 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PDTCBOyde5 (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odofb | Jan 04 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 05:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines paldo GNU/Linux review https://t.co/spsdIkzuDZ | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (distrowatch.com) | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odofc | Jan 04 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Jan 04 05:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, | Jan 04 05:36 |
| r_schestowitz | msb_: they are a "special case" | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Clement Lefebvre https://t.co/FSBSkwHY6Y | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odofd | Jan 04 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, Says Clement Lefebvre | Jan 04 05:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | as if, you need a thug to battle thugs | Jan 04 05:36 |
| r_schestowitz | the problem is, in the US esp., the balance was lost | Jan 04 05:36 |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Right -- "exceptionalism". | Jan 04 05:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and now the police are often as bad as the organised crime they fight | Jan 04 05:36 |
| r_schestowitz | one might be better off paying tax money to vigilantes there, not PDs | Jan 04 05:37 |
| r_schestowitz | same thing, different uniform (if any) | Jan 04 05:37 |
| r_schestowitz | "undercover" police=vigilante | Jan 04 05:37 |
| r_schestowitz | TBH, police brutality here looks like a joke compared to the US | Jan 04 05:38 |
| r_schestowitz | In the US over 1000 people were killed last year by police | Jan 04 05:38 |
| r_schestowitz | here it would maybe be something like 0 | Jan 04 05:38 |
| r_schestowitz | 10 | Jan 04 05:38 |
| r_schestowitz | and they would quite likely be very special cases (not all of them) | Jan 04 05:38 |
| r_schestowitz | !google raul moat | Jan 04 05:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northumbria_Police_manhunt | Jan 04 05:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 'Suffering' killer Raoul Moat had final heart-to-heart with notorious ... | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/suffering-killer-raoul-moat-final-5992458 | Jan 04 05:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - BBC News - Timeline of Raoul Moat shootings | http://www.bbc.com/news/10583120 | Jan 04 05:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Raoul Moat: Gazza arrives in Rothbury to 'offer his support' - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html | Jan 04 05:39 |
| r_schestowitz | " Paul Gascoigne, the former England international footballer, arrived in Rothbury on Friday night to offer his support to gunman Raoul Moat, who was in an armed stand-off with police. " | Jan 04 05:40 |
| r_schestowitz | I didn't know that... | Jan 04 05:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northumbria_Police_manhunt | Jan 04 05:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/odofs ] | Jan 04 05:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | "A major police operation took place in the summer of 2010 in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland, England, during which armed police officers under the command of the Northumbria Police force were deployed to apprehend Raoul Moat, a 37-year-old man from Newcastle upon Tyne who was on the run after shooting three people in two days. His victims were ex-girlfriend Samantha Stobbart, her new partner Chris Brown, and police officer David | Jan 04 05:41 |
| r_schestowitz | Rathband. " | Jan 04 05:41 |
| msb_ | According to an AP article today on this story, | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | "Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to peacefully report to | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge. | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | "Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | their property from wildfires. | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | "The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled | Jan 04 05:42 |
| msb_ | their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back | Jan 04 05:43 |
| msb_ | to prison for about four years each. | Jan 04 05:43 |
| msb_ | Even if those two guys fought the federal government in the courts and won it would probably be four years before they got out of prison. | Jan 04 05:44 |
| <--XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has left #techrights | Jan 04 05:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking your Linux computer for a better | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | listening experience https://t.co/YQ7SeO7RVP | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odogf | Jan 04 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Hacking your Linux computer for a better listening experience | Opensource.com | Jan 04 05:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4-rc8 https://t.co/k5ocwnPSfI (lwn.net) | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BfPjKqxVDn (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odogg | Jan 04 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Linux 4.4-rc8 [LWN.net] | Jan 04 05:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.4-rc8 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Jan 04 05:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/fVrTDtAxrS | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 05:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odogh | Jan 04 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Jan 04 05:49 | |
| msb_ | The thing about democracy is that the voters can be made to vote for anything if the corporate media lie to them about long enough and consistently enough. Like the laws against utterly harmless cannabis, which have put millions of people in prison, sometimes for decades. | Jan 04 05:50 |
| msb_ | It's just like a dictatorship, but superficially it looks good. | Jan 04 05:52 |
| msb_ | about -> about it | Jan 04 05:53 |
| r_schestowitz | media is a cornerstone | Jan 04 05:54 |
| r_schestowitz | or pillar | Jan 04 05:54 |
| r_schestowitz | in the US corporations corrupted its autonomy | Jan 04 05:54 |
| msb_ | corporate media is a tombstone | Jan 04 05:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and it harms a great deal, e.g. when the most popular (by polls) candidate gets little air time | Jan 04 05:55 |
| r_schestowitz | because he uses anti-wall street rhetoric | Jan 04 05:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and Wall Street has a grip on much of the media | Jan 04 05:55 |
| r_schestowitz | see where CBS, Conde Nast, AP etc. are based | Jan 04 05:55 |
| r_schestowitz | (their HQ, not their so-called 'reporters') | Jan 04 05:56 |
| msb_ | Apparently most Americans don't really think. They just absorb TV impressions and from opinions. | Jan 04 05:56 |
| msb_ | from -> form | Jan 04 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 https://t.co/hyOUyMVCUo | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odohr | Jan 04 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 | Jan 04 06:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run Linux in your browser | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vUx38KkizE (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odohs | Jan 04 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | How to run Linux in your browser - TechzimTechzim | Jan 04 06:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ffHU5sp4Vv | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoht | Jan 04 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 06:06 | |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Wonderful promo about mainstream media for a news discussion program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7K7SaEgB7w | Jan 04 06:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Watching the Hawks: Questioning more than the mainstream media - YouTube | Jan 04 06:07 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NewsCoverUp/status/683978165992185856 | Jan 04 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NewsCoverUp: @schestowitz Leaving #Windows is a matter of Life or Death by now Or will be very soon. | Jan 04 06:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | Digital death, yes... | Jan 04 06:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683980596759150593 | Jan 04 06:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz CNN that's the crony corp that ate #satcom | Jan 04 06:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4-rc8 https://t.co/jKA7MqDbMB | Jan 04 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odony | Jan 04 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4-rc8 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines paldo GNU/Linux https://t.co/cGXJwJw9jn | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odonz | Jan 04 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | paldo GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/oJFyWD3hRz | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoo0 | Jan 04 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 https://t.co/Xru4WjH7ta | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoo1 | Jan 04 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet | Jan 04 07:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr (blog.jolla.com) | Jan 04 07:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @M4rtinK https://t.co/WjaAj3OUb6 (linuxg.net) #nokia | Jan 04 07:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #finland #sailfishos | Jan 04 07:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odopx | Jan 04 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports GStreamer...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Jolla Cannot Ship Tablets To All Their Backers, But Will Reward The Unlucky Fans | LinuxG.net | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based #CalculateLinux 15.12 Distro Brings AMDGPU Driver Support,...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for Linux...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu...' | Jan 04 07:26 | |
| XRevan86 | > linux-image-4.2.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64_4.2-3_amd64.deb 22-Sep-2015 | Jan 04 07:29 |
| XRevan86 | Siduction used to get new Linux releases in a day after it gets to kernel.org. | Jan 04 07:31 |
| XRevan86 | Then something happend. | Jan 04 07:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/683985179862515712 | Jan 04 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz to quote my husband: "'Home of the Brave'? Yeah, right." America, Home of the Terrified. | Jan 04 07:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux...' | Jan 04 07:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, | Jan 04 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop https://t.co/1lWrdmZX4V | Jan 04 07:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop | Techrights | Jan 04 07:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/PUiozosBGu | Jan 04 07:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/8zL6b777KW | Jan 04 07:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/qEWRZRAS0B | Jan 04 07:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/i9FLPrJaNx | Jan 04 07:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odorj | Jan 04 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/r87OhS8pDz | Jan 04 07:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odosy | Jan 04 07:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/k5emhqWQS9 | Jan 04 07:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) now with accurate Spanish | Jan 04 07:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | translations also | Jan 04 07:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odosz | Jan 04 07:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop...' | Jan 04 07:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop...' | Jan 04 07:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 07:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/oJFyWD3hRz | Jan 04 07:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @elbekgt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 07:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Tux Machines | Jan 04 07:57 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @elbekgt favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 09:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/azXcoqvFaq | Jan 04 09:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 | Jan 04 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | all-in-one https://t.co/FEme6iscnd | Jan 04 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 all-in-one | Tux Machines | Jan 04 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with | Jan 04 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/llxy9LzGIp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu | Jan 04 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mobile N5L phone no favors | Jan 04 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BeMwigltny (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu Mobile N5L phone no favors | Tux Machines | Jan 04 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and open source have won, get over it | Jan 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HLhKT5rkkx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and open source have won, get over it | Tux Machines | Jan 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers | Jan 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Really Impressive https://t.co/8aXaO9viQT | Jan 04 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers Are Really Impressive | Tux Machines | Jan 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four | Jan 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/o7C05K6276 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odpie | Jan 04 11:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four Years of Support for the Branch | Tux Machines | Jan 04 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/k5emhqWQS9 | Jan 04 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) now with accurate Spanish | Jan 04 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz translations also | Jan 04 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odpig | Jan 04 11:26 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks...' | Jan 04 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers Are Really Impressive...' | Jan 04 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/azXcoqvFaq | Jan 04 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jan 04 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Archos Introduce Power Line of Budget Android | Jan 04 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphones https://t.co/1xSLujjv2e | Jan 04 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidheadlines.com) | Jan 04 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Archos Introduce Power Line of Budget Android Smartphones | Androidheadlines.com | Jan 04 12:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 | Jan 04 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | all-in-one https://t.co/NHhqgqp7o7 | Jan 04 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 04 12:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 all-in-one | ZDNet | Jan 04 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with | Jan 04 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4rnLDZ4ync (betanews.com) | Jan 04 12:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu | Jan 04 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mobile N5L phone no favors | Jan 04 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/W1V0UBMS7P (www.cnet.com) | Jan 04 12:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Nuu N5L Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET | Jan 04 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and open source have won, get over it | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NeqmTrhbdF (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odpt9 | Jan 04 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linux and open source have won, get over it | ZDNet | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3sztX6MqB1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odpta | Jan 04 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| schestowitz | glorifying an evil person, in "progressive" site http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2016/01/04/3735721/zuckerberg-girl-nerds/ | Jan 04 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Woman Says She Encourages Her Granddaughters To 'Date The Nerd.' Mark Zuckerberg Has A Better Idea. | ThinkProgress | Jan 04 12:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/684067181026492417 | Jan 04 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: @schestowitz happy UEFI/ME on Acer & install libreboot on lenovo.. | Jan 04 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alegrasiempre/status/684069671600021504 | Jan 04 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alegrasiempre: @schestowitz terrible! | Jan 04 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944234 | Jan 04 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux and open source have won, get over it http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-and-open-source-have-won-get-over-it/ | Jan 04 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Except that personal computing is still largely proprietary for a majority of people. We still have a long way to go." | Jan 04 13:10 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks...' | Jan 04 13:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye | Jan 04 13:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 13:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LOUeupiMp4 (fossbytes.com) | Jan 04 13:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odpzg | Jan 04 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Why Linux-powered "World's Safest Drone" Fleye Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 13:24 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Why is Mark Zuckerberg considered evil? | Jan 04 13:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/684085437133107201 | Jan 04 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz More SMART devices meaning more surveillance? | Jan 04 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily, but potentially... | Jan 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz | msb_: not as evil as some | Jan 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz | But evil nonetheless | Jan 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz | see this from days ago http://techrights.org/2016/01/01/facebook-basic-slavery/ | Jan 04 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mark[et] Zuckerberg’s ‘Free’ Basics Evokes Memory of Him Famously Saying “Facebook Users Are Dumb Fucks… I’m Going to Fuck Them, Probably in the Ear” | Techrights | Jan 04 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | sociopath | Jan 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz | even when he was young | Jan 04 13:57 |
| schestowitz | what kind of person would make statements like that about early adopters of his platform? | Jan 04 13:58 |
| schestowitz | A sociopath | Jan 04 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Watch it getting worse as he gets older and richer | Jan 04 13:58 |
| schestowitz | he already avoids tax using the same tricks as Billy | Jan 04 13:58 |
| oiaohm | Tax avoidance by large companies is standard prac not limited to any one company. | Jan 04 13:59 |
| schestowitz | doesn't make it any better | Jan 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | class crime | Jan 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | and need to end | Jan 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | some companies do it worse than others | Jan 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | and some countries are more welcoming and lenient than others | Jan 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Switzerland, Singapore, Cayman etc. | Jan 04 14:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: It's not clear what "free basic" means. Is he getting companies in India to advertise in f***book and thus avoiding taxes? Monsanto GMO is poisonous, but some stupid program??? | Jan 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the world's rich nations | Jan 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz | even tiny Luxembourg | Jan 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Seems like it's main industry is shrinking tax liabilities, or helping companies steal from Europeans | Jan 04 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Lichtenstein... | Jan 04 14:04 |
| schestowitz | msb_: read on it | Jan 04 14:04 |
| schestowitz | been very big news this past 1-3 months | Jan 04 14:05 |
| msb_ | give me a specific page link | Jan 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | esp. in India | Jan 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | !google why facebook free basics is evil | Jan 04 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft slams Facebook's Free Basics initiative in India | Windows ... | http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-slams-facebooks-free-basics-initiative-india | Jan 04 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - India's Argument Over Facebook's Free Basics Heats Up: The ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/12/30/indias-argument-over-facebooks-free-basics-heats-up-the-economics-is-clear-here/ | Jan 04 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Facebook is Misleading Indians With its Full-page Ads About Free ... | http://thewire.in/2015/12/26/facebook-is-misleading-indians-with-its-full-page-ads-about-free-basics-17971/ | Jan 04 14:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Facebook Myths and the Facts about 'Free' Basics: Distortion Again ... | http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/facebook-myths-and-the-facts-about-free-basics-distortion-again-292590.html | Jan 04 14:05 |
| msb_ | facebook or free basic | Jan 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | lol, even MS complains | Jan 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | probably for some selfish reasons of Microsoft | Jan 04 14:05 |
| schestowitz | msb_: it's not an "OR" | Jan 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Facebook pushes this crap | Jan 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz | and ISPs pay | Jan 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Not Facebook | Jan 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz | It's an attack on net neutrality | Jan 04 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Along the lines of "feeding the world's hungry" (motto/slogan for GMO propaganda in India, Africa) | Jan 04 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/i9FLPrJaNx | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odq6n | Jan 04 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 14:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RjACFQ5iBJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odq6o | Jan 04 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye Is Better Than Google Glass? | Tux Machines | Jan 04 14:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung to unveil new Tizen Smart Fridge with | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MASSIVE display at CES 2016 | Jan 04 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z5Untjl0Dh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 14:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung to unveil new Tizen Smart Fridge with MASSIVE display at CES 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 14:08 | |
| msb_ | So "free basic" is really "free basic internet access"? Selective and with ads? | Jan 04 14:10 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: So "free basic" is really "free basic internet access"? Selective and with ads? | Jan 04 14:11 |
| schestowitz | http://kevincarmony.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/michael-robertson-sues-me-to-impede-my.html | Jan 04 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevincarmony.blogspot.co.uk | Kevin Carmony's Blog: Michael Robertson Sues Me to Impede My Freedom of Speech on the Internet | Jan 04 14:19 | |
| schestowitz | remember Carmony? | Jan 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz | his blog is dead now | Jan 04 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/robert_reich_is_petitioning_the_dnc_for_more_presidential_debates_20160104/ | Jan 04 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | Robert Reich Is Petitioning the DNC for More Presidential Debates - Truthdig | Jan 04 14:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/cosby_20160103/ | Jan 04 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | Clay Bennett: Cosby - Clay Bennett - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/odqcf ] | Jan 04 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/developerangst/status/684098104749076481 | Jan 04 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@developerangst: @schestowitz who would want to copy it these days?! | Jan 04 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | People who always copied it because they disregarded ethics and laws anyway | Jan 04 14:48 |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=W-XOR-E-Firefox this is interesting. | Jan 04 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Write XOR Execute JIT Support Lands For Mozilla Firefox - Phoronix | Jan 04 14:49 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ok that free basic stuff is funny. Lot of countries run Man in Middle HTTPS interception. Now that a company like facebook wants to lets get upset. | Jan 04 14:51 |
| *amarsh04 just managed to get kwin 4:5.4.3-1.1 on Debian working again by applying https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126361/ | Jan 04 14:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.reviewboard.kde.org | Unblock signals in child processes | Review Request | Review Board [ http://ur1.ca/odqet ] | Jan 04 14:54 | |
| amarsh04 | there has been no activity in terms of new versions of KDE packages in Debian in the last month apparently | Jan 04 14:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/684101357972910081 | Jan 04 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz https://t.co/CezmHenj13 | Jan 04 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.democracynow.org | Democracy Now! | Jan 04 15:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944289 | Jan 04 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did #MinimumWage Increases Hurt Employment During the Great Recession? http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/did-minimum-wage-increases-hurt-employment-during-great-recession "the world is awash in minimum wage studies." | Jan 04 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | Did Minimum Wage Increases Hurt Employment During the Great Recession? | Mother Jones | Jan 04 15:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944625 | Jan 04 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passing #law to basically serve as made-up #protectionism using new words & virtual concepts, keeping the rich richer https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/684103425798307841 | Jan 04 15:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @ipwatchdog yes because without beliefs and corruption of politicians, virtual property does not exist! | Jan 04 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.1.5 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.15 Released | Jan 04 15:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.5 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.15 Released | DNF | Jan 04 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Packaging https://t.co/En3h173E24 | Jan 04 15:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Packaging | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Desktop Linux starts 2016 with a bang thanks to | Jan 04 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acer and Chrome OS https://t.co/PQFNDkX0vh | Jan 04 15:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Desktop Linux starts 2016 with a bang thanks to Acer and Chrome OS | CIO | Jan 04 15:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dan Gillmor: I Moved to Linux and It’s Even | Jan 04 16:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Than I Expected | Jan 04 16:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BzOmmL083s (medium.com) great | Jan 04 16:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | stuff! https://t.co/O5IJrcVRC7 | Jan 04 16:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com | I Moved to Linux and It’s Even Better Than I Expected — Backchannel — Medium | Jan 04 16:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thememo.com | Should (and could) you ditch Apple, Google and Microsoft? | Jan 04 16:33 | |
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| cubexyz | I think it's important to remember that Linux & BSD distros are aggregates | Jan 04 16:39 |
| cubexyz | massively so | Jan 04 16:39 |
| cubexyz | so if someone comes along with new stuff you don't like it shouldn't be too hard to avoid it | Jan 04 16:40 |
| cubexyz | it may be necessary to dig up old code or fork stuff | Jan 04 16:41 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: true | Jan 04 16:44 |
| schestowitz | aggregates | Jan 04 16:44 |
| schestowitz | some people use this term for patent pools | Jan 04 16:44 |
| schestowitz | or trolls, the big ones, like RPX (cc zoobab ) | Jan 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944775 | Jan 04 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EXCLUSIVE: Most of former NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly's emails deleted before he left #NYPD http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/raymond-kelly-deleted-emails-leaving-nypd-article-1.2482279 #police liars | Jan 04 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | "They have back-ups, right?" | Jan 04 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com | NO TITLE | Jan 04 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | Don't give the dumb cops ideas... or they'll delete those TOO! :-) | Jan 04 16:46 |
| cubexyz | what do I see in new KDE? Words like "unperspicuity" :) | Jan 04 16:49 |
| cubexyz | or rather the description | Jan 04 16:49 |
| cubexyz | speaking of aggregates, akregator still works | Jan 04 17:00 |
| cubexyz | definitely faster than clicking on all the blogs | Jan 04 17:02 |
| cubexyz | in the switch to icewm sometimes one forgets all the good stuff in KDE 3.5 | Jan 04 17:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I find it interesting that X11 development is starting to slow. | Jan 04 17:04 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, care to elaborate or explain? | Jan 04 17:07 |
| cubexyz | does anyone even write xlib programs? :) | Jan 04 17:07 |
| cubexyz | see, my main problem with all the whiz-bang new stuff is it runs like a turd on old computers | Jan 04 17:09 |
| cubexyz | too fancy, too graphically intensive, etc | Jan 04 17:10 |
| cubexyz | so when some developer makes a new plasmoid thingamajig no one would even think of running it on a P3 or dare I say even older computer | Jan 04 17:12 |
| cubexyz | do we want slower less responsive computers? I don't think so | Jan 04 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Compact EPIC SBC runs Linux on Bay Trail, has | Jan 04 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Compact EPIC SBC runs Linux on Bay Trail, has legacy appeal · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 04 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hats Off to Chapeau Linux's Better Fedora | Jan 04 17:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 Is Now Ready for | Jan 04 17:23 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XServer-2015-Statistics | Jan 04 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | X.Org Server Development Slows To Lowest Point In A Decade - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/odqye ] | Jan 04 17:25 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its not that simple. P3 class cpu power exists in new hardware but its normally matched up with a more modern GPU. | Jan 04 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hack allows PS4 to boot Linux, SteamOS should | Jan 04 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “just work” https://t.co/bZ7nIcP9mx | Jan 04 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/684141552294342656 | Jan 04 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Perhaps they are not yet ready with their own spyware https://t.co/Mg255wOxK3 | Jan 04 17:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Still no signs of #lenovo preinstalling #gnu #linux or #bsd rather than the world's worst #malware and #spyware https://t.co/HKrUTByMzj | Jan 04 17:43 | |
| schestowitz | They should try Red Star | Jan 04 17:43 |
| knobby1234 | Roy - just a thought, but how about putting a wee bit more of a positive spin on things? How to make it better would be a good thing. Many years ago I did a degree in Innovation - Block 1 Chapter 2 - A European Patent if applied for is "bad for your wealth" was the basic crux of that 1st year. That was 15 years ago. Stop stating the obvious and start focusing on how to make sure SME's don't lose out. Am on your side really I am | Jan 04 17:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Based, Still No Sight of LXQt | Jan 04 17:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Top Linux Trends of 2015 | Linux.com | Jan 04 17:51 | |
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| schestowitz | > Also, you might like this. The EFF named Microsoft's design patent for a | Jan 04 19:23 |
| schestowitz | > slider as its Stupid Patent of the Month. | Jan 04 19:23 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider | Jan 04 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Patent of the Month: Microsoft’s Design Patent on a Slider | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/od2j3 ] | Jan 04 19:23 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Regarding your Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card, I think I used to have one of those without the FM, and I don't remember what drivers it used, but now I have a higher-rez Avermedia card that uses the standard v4l video-for-Linux drivers. Have you looked at those? The FM might be included. | Jan 04 19:26 |
| cubexyz | yeah I'm not sure where I put the card | Jan 04 19:32 |
| cubexyz | I know all about bttv etc | Jan 04 19:32 |
| cubexyz | when we took down the big VHF antenna I lost quite a lot of range | Jan 04 19:33 |
| cubexyz | well maybe there's something better, I need to research it | Jan 04 19:40 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, would a 4 terabyte hard drive work on the old BIOS? | Jan 04 19:44 |
| cubexyz | 32-bit sectors and all that | Jan 04 19:45 |
| cubexyz | RCA RP7887 superadio III is supposed to be a really good radio receiver | Jan 04 19:46 |
| cubexyz | not sure how good an idea it is putting the radio receiver inside a computer anyway | Jan 04 19:47 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/hard_drive_size_barriers.htm all kinds of different issues. | Jan 04 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dewassoc.com | Hard Drive Size Barriers, In Depth [ http://ur1.ca/odrhd ] | Jan 04 19:53 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I know that 80 gig will work | Jan 04 19:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you will notice older drives have faking modes. | Jan 04 19:55 |
| cubexyz | it's Linux ext2 on this box | Jan 04 19:56 |
| cubexyz | no FAT 32 limit | Jan 04 19:57 |
| oiaohm | bios can refuse to boot if the drive it sees is too large. | Jan 04 19:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes a bios equal to a kernel panic. | Jan 04 19:58 |
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| cubexyz | 2000 era award BIOS | Jan 04 20:03 |
| cubexyz | no idea if award is still around, maybe not | Jan 04 20:04 |
| cubexyz | guess I'll have another look at the BIOS | Jan 04 20:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: does the board have sata? | Jan 04 20:09 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, 2000? doubtful | Jan 04 20:10 |
| cubexyz | but i'll check | Jan 04 20:10 |
| cubexyz | no sata | Jan 04 20:11 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: sata is 2003 | Jan 04 20:11 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some old computers from 2000 had to have motherboard replacements due to bad caps. | Jan 04 20:11 |
| cubexyz | I got stuff even older than that | Jan 04 20:12 |
| cubexyz | 1998 and 1987 :) | Jan 04 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Kernel, Graphics | Jan 04 20:12 |
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| cubexyz | BIOS mentions PIO 4 | Jan 04 20:13 |
| cubexyz | does that help me at all? | Jan 04 20:13 |
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| cubexyz | v6.00PG | Jan 04 20:13 |
| cubexyz | I think the Amiga can do 4 gig | Jan 04 20:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.ybet.be/en-hardware-1-10/hard-disk-ide.php#modehd | Jan 04 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ybet.be | Hard disk dive IDE and SATA | Jan 04 20:17 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: If it was after 2003 you can expect to take a 2tb drive or a 4tb drive with gpt partitions hidden behind a small mbr to make bios happy. | Jan 04 20:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: but something 2000 hit controller death at 137GB unless drive can lie that it smaller. | Jan 04 20:18 |
| cubexyz | ok, according to that web page I seem to be limited to 120 (137 gb) | Jan 04 20:19 |
| oiaohm | Its not exactly right. | Jan 04 20:19 |
| cubexyz | but if it's not the boot drive can't I fudge it? | Jan 04 20:20 |
| cubexyz | it's just for additional storage | Jan 04 20:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you would notice particular 1 and 2 tb drives have jumpers to provide a lie mode. | Jan 04 20:20 |
| oiaohm | So lie to be less than 137GB so bios works then OS goes larger. | Jan 04 20:21 |
| cubexyz | these web pages are very microsoft-centric | Jan 04 20:22 |
| oiaohm | I know. | Jan 04 20:22 |
| oiaohm | Linux has always been insanely tollerent to run over sized drives. | Jan 04 20:23 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't an external USB drive work though? | Jan 04 20:23 |
| cubexyz | doesn't have to boot | Jan 04 20:24 |
| cubexyz | ok, basically my question is: | Jan 04 20:25 |
| cubexyz | on a year 2000 computer running modern linux, would an external 2 terabyte hard drive work? | Jan 04 20:25 |
| cubexyz | only the USB controller needs to work right? | Jan 04 20:26 |
| cubexyz | I think ext2 handles 4 TB partition | Jan 04 20:28 |
| oiaohm | http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/other/2579-001037.pdf Hard drive lie. Particular harddrives have jumpers to limit to 2.1 GB, 8.4 GB, 32 GB, and 137 GB. | Jan 04 20:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes if the harddrive is on the USB controller it will work and in a lot of cases if you put a newer controller card in the drives will work as well. | Jan 04 20:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: just the motherboard controller is hating your guts. | Jan 04 20:31 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, any thoughts on which external usb hard drive is the best/most durable? | Jan 04 20:31 |
| oiaohm | Normally this case I would get a pci based sata controller. | Jan 04 20:32 |
| oiaohm | year 2000 usb is not that fast. | Jan 04 20:32 |
| cubexyz | I have a usb 2.0 card | Jan 04 20:32 |
| cubexyz | shouldn't be too bad | Jan 04 20:32 |
| oiaohm | 2.0 is still a snail compared to even a sata 1 card. | Jan 04 20:33 |
| cubexyz | ok, any thoughts on which sata card is the best? :) | Jan 04 20:34 |
| oiaohm | I normally don't work that much on old hardware. | Jan 04 20:34 |
| oiaohm | With external usb hard drives I go with the assemble self models. | Jan 04 20:34 |
| oiaohm | You know the ones where you by internal harddrive and fit it ourselves. | Jan 04 20:35 |
| cubexyz | all the burners might be SATA now, so an SATA PCI card sounds like a good idea for me | Jan 04 20:35 |
| oiaohm | Preassembled and self assembled usb harddrives suffer from the same set of problems. | Jan 04 20:35 |
| oiaohm | Only one catch self assembled usb harddrives are in fact design that you can get them open and push the plugs back into place. | Jan 04 20:36 |
| oiaohm | And opening self assemble is not breach waranity. | Jan 04 20:36 |
| cubexyz | good point | Jan 04 20:37 |
| oiaohm | Sata cards can act like old scsi cards so systems can still boot. | Jan 04 20:37 |
| oiaohm | To be truthful I have not found a single brand of preassembled external usb harddrives I would recommend. | Jan 04 20:39 |
| cubexyz | yeah that doesn't surprise me | Jan 04 20:39 |
| cubexyz | I've seen tons of dead ones | Jan 04 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Reality is most are not dead. | Jan 04 20:40 |
| cubexyz | the enclosure dies, the hard drive is OK | Jan 04 20:40 |
| oiaohm | Most its break them open push the usb interface back on to drive and magically they come back. | Jan 04 20:40 |
| oiaohm | Basically the enclosure is not even dead. | Jan 04 20:40 |
| cubexyz | I've seen them corrupt data | Jan 04 20:41 |
| oiaohm | In most cases. | Jan 04 20:41 |
| cubexyz | that's dead enough | Jan 04 20:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, so I want a good SATA PCI card | Jan 04 20:41 |
| oiaohm | dislodged connection between usb to sata to sata of drive inside preassembled or self assembled from time to time cause corrupt data. | Jan 04 20:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes a percentage the harddrive have died. | Jan 04 20:42 |
| oiaohm | Basically its 70 percent the connection between the usb to sata control to drive. | Jan 04 20:43 |
| oiaohm | 30 percent the drive has not like the impact of hitting floor while running. | Jan 04 20:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its so wasteful how many perfectly good harddrives are thrown out in preassmebled usb harddrives. | Jan 04 20:44 |
| cubexyz | just remove the drive from the enclosure :) | Jan 04 20:45 |
| cubexyz | what, do they glue them together or something? | Jan 04 20:45 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the brand. | Jan 04 20:45 |
| oiaohm | The worst is plastic welded | Jan 04 20:46 |
| oiaohm | No seam or weak point in the plastic casing and the welding process has in fact glued the plastic case to drive. | Jan 04 20:46 |
| oiaohm | The best is just know where to shove screw driver and they open. | Jan 04 20:47 |
| cubexyz | I see PCI SATA/IDE combo cards | Jan 04 20:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course self assemble is the simplest. Just undo as per manual no risk to hands. Yes getting some of the preassembled open risks hurting self. | Jan 04 20:49 |
| cubexyz | 2 x SATA 150 + 1 ATA 133 | Jan 04 20:51 |
| oiaohm | That 2003 hardware. | Jan 04 20:52 |
| cubexyz | for older computer :) | Jan 04 20:52 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: some radio stations stream their output over the Net. You can tune in stations all over the world without any special equipment. Just google the statiion call letters. | Jan 04 20:54 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: look at their schedule on their website and see when they're broadcasting classical music (or whatever you want). Make a little database in a text file and access it with a bash script. | Jan 04 20:59 |
| cubexyz | msb_, yeah I do that already | Jan 04 21:00 |
| msb_ | ok I shouldn't try to teach my grandmother how to suck eggs 8^) | Jan 04 21:01 |
| cubexyz | xmms is streaming swiss classics right now :) | Jan 04 21:01 |
| cubexyz | on my systemd free openbsd box | Jan 04 21:01 |
| msb_ | I didn't know that xmms could access the Net. | Jan 04 21:02 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 04 21:02 |
| cubexyz | there's a plugin for that | Jan 04 21:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xmms.ext.txt | Jan 04 21:03 |
| msb_ | what's the URL you're listening to? | Jan 04 21:04 |
| cubexyz | I just posted it | Jan 04 21:04 |
| cubexyz | http://stream.srg-ssr.ch/m/rsc_de/mp3_128 | Jan 04 21:04 |
| cubexyz | I'm fond of Scarlatti :) | Jan 04 21:05 |
| cubexyz | Trelane plays K 450 | Jan 04 21:06 |
| msb_ | mplayer works too | Jan 04 21:06 |
| cubexyz | I think it's K 450 | Jan 04 21:06 |
| cubexyz | also Johann Strauss | Jan 04 21:06 |
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| msb_ | what is K450? | Jan 04 21:07 |
| cubexyz | it's a piece for harpsichord, keyboard sonata in G minor... K.XXX is the numbering system he used | Jan 04 21:08 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure you'll recognize it :) | Jan 04 21:09 |
| msb_ | This music is very restful. I think it's from before sex was invented. | Jan 04 21:10 |
| msb_ | Usually I listen to rock from 50s to 80s. | Jan 04 21:10 |
| msb_ | Is there a listing of streaming radio stations somewhere? | Jan 04 21:11 |
| cubexyz | https://www.internet-radio.com | Jan 04 21:12 |
| msb_ | Wow thanks! | Jan 04 21:13 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_radio_stations | Jan 04 21:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bill-haley-edison-hotel.jpg | Jan 04 21:24 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bill-haley-cool-suit.jpg | Jan 04 21:29 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 04 21:29 |
| msb_ | firefox says errors on the second one | Jan 04 21:33 |
| msb_ | anyhow, I guess we don't need an antenna until after the apocalypse -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMAGT-3wx4 | Jan 04 21:33 |
| cubexyz | ok, try it now | Jan 04 21:34 |
| msb_ | Wow, knock your eyes out! | Jan 04 21:34 |
| msb_ | I made a bookmark for SRG and Firefox brings it in! | Jan 04 21:42 |
| msb_ | Is K 450 Mozart? | Jan 04 21:49 |
| cubexyz | Scarlatti | Jan 04 21:49 |
| cubexyz | Mozart came afterwards | Jan 04 21:51 |
| cubexyz | Domenico Scarlatti to be precise | Jan 04 21:53 |
| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w17tOpuRdrI but it is not familiar to me | Jan 04 21:53 |
| cubexyz | might have been K 159 actually | Jan 04 21:54 |
| cubexyz | for some reason I was thinking about K 450 | Jan 04 21:54 |
| cubexyz | ah, it's both actually | Jan 04 21:55 |
| cubexyz | glad my memory isn't completely wrong | Jan 04 21:55 |
| cubexyz | Trelane makes Uhura play "Roses from the South" | Jan 04 21:56 |
| cubexyz | that's Johann Strauss number 2 | Jan 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | why use radio? lots of ads, and 'news' | Jan 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | You can get lots of stuff for free, and legally | Jan 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | even long compilations, like 3 hours long | Jan 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | so that you don't need to know what exactly to browse for | Jan 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944878 | Jan 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "divide and rule." | Jan 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | bot down? | Jan 04 22:02 |
| cubexyz | internet doesn't always work, it's mainly a backup source | Jan 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | weird | Jan 04 22:03 |
| cubexyz | also for exercising... a portable music source when hiking or whatever away from the computer | Jan 04 22:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944878 | Jan 04 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | test https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944878 | Jan 04 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Automobile Fragmentation Problem.. The Colour Fragmentation Problem.. The Political Parties Fragmentation Problem.. When more is "bad"? | Jan 04 22:04 | |
| cubexyz | also if I'm downloading and using close to 100% of my bandwidth radio will still work | Jan 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | OK... | Jan 04 22:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung’s Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, | Jan 04 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | too https://t.co/NNc9JLTpit | Jan 04 22:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung’s Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, too | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD | Jan 04 22:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD Ships with Newer OpenRC Version | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:08 | |
| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQAEUA9jGs | Jan 04 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | E. Power Biggs - Toccata (5th Symphony) Widor - YouTube | Jan 04 22:19 | |
| msb_ | pardon the initial vinyl scratches, it's the only one I could find | Jan 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/684213509211709440 | Jan 04 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Come on @schestowitz, do you really consider #design patents to be a subclass of #softwarepatents? https://t.co/PN7lffLXKC #swpats | Jan 04 22:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Design Patents (e.g. Sliders) Are Becoming as Much of a Problem as Software Patents | Techrights | Jan 04 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | In this case (sliders), yes.... | Jan 04 22:26 |
| cubexyz | 45 rpm? | Jan 04 22:29 |
| cubexyz | didn't know he played harpsichord as well | Jan 04 22:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agodidactica/status/684215841697710080 | Jan 04 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agodidactica: RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Got Hacked And Didn't Tell Anyone https://t.co/aVnkfBoM6v ... | Jan 04 22:33 | |
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| cubexyz | this is the one that reminds me of Trelane the most: | Jan 04 22:34 |
| cubexyz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aydlQ_jCrQ | Jan 04 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Domenico Scarlatti, Sonata in c major, K. 159 - YouTube | Jan 04 22:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com | Tribute to Debian Founder, Ian Murdock | Unixmen | Jan 04 23:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review: Bound By Flame on Linux | Jan 04 23:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Review: Bound By Flame on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 04 23:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung’s Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, | Jan 04 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | too https://t.co/uBjwZz7hUh (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 04 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Samsung's Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, too · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 04 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD | Jan 04 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ships with Newer OpenRC Version | Jan 04 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD Ships with Newer OpenRC Version | Jan 04 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Kylin 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Alpha 1 | Jan 04 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lands for Chinese Users with Many Fixes | Jan 04 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Kylin 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Alpha 1 Lands for Chinese Users with Many Fixes | Jan 04 23:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 04 23:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based DebEX KDE Linux OS Ships with KDE 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 04 23:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, | Jan 04 23:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, Finally Moves to Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 04 23:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Receives Major Web Browser | Jan 04 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | App with Convergence Features | Jan 04 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Receives Major Web Browser App with Convergence Features | Jan 04 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 16.04 Is Sticking To GTK2-Based LXDE | Jan 05 00:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rather Than LXQt https://t.co/B67K0GipcU | Jan 05 00:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lubuntu 16.04 Is Sticking To GTK2-Based LXDE Rather Than LXQt - Phoronix | Jan 05 00:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 'Xenial Xerus' Alpha 1, Kylin 16.04 | Jan 05 00:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 'Xenial Xerus' Alpha 1, Kylin 16.04 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 00:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based DebEX KDE Linux OS Ships with KDE | Jan 05 00:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 05 00:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based DebEX KDE Linux OS Ships with KDE 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 00:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, | Jan 05 00:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, Finally Moves to Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 00:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ltNI8TgYfK | Jan 05 00:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 05 00:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm. Watching some import discs. Apparently, the American versions of the Harry Potter movies were more censored than the British versions. | Jan 05 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | I certainly don't remember a dead cat hanging by the message written in blood. | Jan 05 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | The film rating system here is just awful. | Jan 05 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the big budget movies try to get PG-13, which basically means you can kill as many people as you want to, but you can't say "fuck". | Jan 05 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/839-the-ongoing-failure-of-the-pg-13-rating/ | Jan 05 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissolve.com | The ongoing failure of the PG-13 rating / The Dissolve | Jan 05 00:35 | |
| DaemonFC | The blu ray disc cases seem to be sturdier than the ones we have here too. | Jan 05 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's barely any plastic in ours. Just enough to protect the disc. They even cut out a bunch of it and expose the paper with the box art. :P | Jan 05 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the discs say "For rental or resale" and others say "Not for rental". | Jan 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | In the US, they can't control what you do with the disc once you buy it, but buying them through the retail channel is more expensive. | Jan 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | They have rental discs though where it's the same movie, but all the special features have been removed and clicking on them says "If you want to view the special features, you must buy a retail version of this disc.". I buy off-rental discs all the time. No special features is fine by me for most movies. | Jan 05 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | Redbox ended up in a situation for a while where the major studios refused to sell them rental discs, so they had to go buy discs off the shelf to fill the vending machines in the meantime. | Jan 05 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6945206 | Jan 05 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BleachBit 1.10 Open Source System Cleaner Has Linux and Firefox Improvements http://news.softpedia.com/news/bleachbit-1-10-open-source-system-cleaner-has-windows-10-and-firefox-improvements-498422.shtml | Jan 05 01:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | BleachBit 1.10 Open Source System Cleaner Has Linux, Windows 10 and Firefox Improvements | Jan 05 01:16 | |
| schestowitz | "don’t leave home without it!" | Jan 05 01:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/684259177229848576 | Jan 05 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Американский Беркут. Протестующих сожгли заживо? Может нуна* полицейское партнерство с США? @MGongadze https://t.co/lsGdeAcOLj | Jan 05 01:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Here’s What Happened When Black People Tried Armed Occupation https://t.co/1Tt9eyaWsg "MOVE were bombed and burned alive" | Jan 05 01:26 | |
| cubexyz | does bleachbit delete windows 10? | Jan 05 01:36 |
| cubexyz | because I don't see how you can bleach windows | Jan 05 01:36 |
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| cubexyz | what is it about an operating system that has to have stuff like anti-virus, disksweeper, registry cleaner, etc etc etc | Jan 05 01:38 |
| cubexyz | if windows was a good operating system it wouldn't need all that extra stuff | Jan 05 01:39 |
| cubexyz | oh and bleachbit of course | Jan 05 01:39 |
| cubexyz | it's all marketing BS | Jan 05 01:41 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, I forgot windows activation | Jan 05 01:42 |
| cubexyz | yes, I'd say we've reached the tipping point for microsoft | Jan 05 01:42 |
| cubexyz | the do-it-for-me-I'm-too-stupid mentality has to go | Jan 05 01:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Jan 05 01:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Jan 05 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Jan 05 01:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Tux Machines | Jan 05 01:44 | |
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| cubexyz | no new relevations about Murdock? | Jan 05 01:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some stuff of Windows has Linux equals. https://packages.debian.org/stretch/cruft for example is doing lot of the same thing as registery cleaners attempt. | Jan 05 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://packages.debian.org/stretch/cruft ) | Jan 05 02:43 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course cruft in fact works fairly safely due to debian better information on what should be currently installed. | Jan 05 02:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so that extra stuff arugement is not exactly right. Lot of the reasons the extra stuff cannot work properly is Windows installation process. | Jan 05 02:44 |
| cubexyz | what cruft? | Jan 05 02:58 |
| cubexyz | stuff in /tmp ? | Jan 05 02:58 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft hunts down left behind configuration files in /etc and other generated left behind files in /usr and other places like that. | Jan 05 03:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fairly much registery cleaner/system cleaner under windows. But those cleaners under windows don't have a good white list to look at for what should be present and this is why they break systems so much. | Jan 05 03:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for | Jan 05 03:13 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the secret to android resistance is 1 a google provide like anti-virus thing that can fall back on a great whitelist of what file should be installed. | Jan 05 03:14 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, back in may 2004 I installed FC1 | Jan 05 03:34 |
| cubexyz | now I admit, I've augmented it a lot | Jan 05 03:34 |
| cubexyz | but it's basically still FC1 | Jan 05 03:34 |
| cubexyz | in all that time I've never used "cruft" or any cleaner | Jan 05 03:35 |
| cubexyz | that's not just a machine connected to the net either, it's a web server | Jan 05 03:36 |
| cubexyz | since before Firefox 1.0 :) | Jan 05 03:37 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/desktop/old-desktop-2005.png | Jan 05 03:39 |
| cubexyz | that's what it used to look like | Jan 05 03:39 |
| cubexyz | there was one thing which I never really understood though | Jan 05 03:42 |
| cubexyz | kio_http_cache_cleaner | Jan 05 03:42 |
| cubexyz | I think it's a konqueror thing, but I never use konqueror on that box | Jan 05 03:43 |
| cubexyz | the zaurus is 2002 | Jan 05 03:47 |
| cubexyz | I remember windows users doing the "yearly reload" as a matter of course | Jan 05 03:48 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it may be possible that registry cleaners and the like are merely snake oil for the unwary | Jan 05 03:54 |
| cubexyz | they used to sell XP systems with 128 megs of ram | Jan 05 03:57 |
| cubexyz | so XP "evolved" to need more memory, hence degraded performance | Jan 05 03:57 |
| cubexyz | exactly why it ends up so slow I'm not sure, but I've seen it continuously hit the hard drive when nothing seemed to be running | Jan 05 03:58 |
| cubexyz | make the core install read-only I guess | Jan 05 03:59 |
| cubexyz | I mean the BIOS is pretty durable | Jan 05 04:02 |
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| msb_ | Here's my windows experience. A neighbor wanted me to pick out a good computer for him, so I found him a great laptop (Toshiba maybe) and was going to put Linux on it , and I could even administer it remotely from my house. But his friend, who's a lawyer, told him that Linux was very hard to use. So he bought a computer with windows on it. Now it requires so many passwords that he doesn't know how to use it anymore, so he doesn't | Jan 05 04:07 |
| msb_ | use a computer at all. | Jan 05 04:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have had to use a cruft cleaner on debian. But it was after the install was 12 years old and I had installed and unstalled about half of the debian repository system over the time. | Jan 05 04:08 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and cruft did remove 4G of lost files. | Jan 05 04:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: windows haveing to reinstall every 12 months is normally gamers and other doing lots of installation and collective failures to uninstall properly and track what files/registry enteries should exist. | Jan 05 04:10 |
| msb_ | I remember when the standard way to fix anything in windows was to reinstall it. That was the rule in some company I was programming in. | Jan 05 04:12 |
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| amarsh04 | I have done that manually in aptitude oiaohm | Jan 05 04:12 |
| amarsh04 | searching for packages removed but not purged | Jan 05 04:12 |
| amarsh04 | this Debian installation is over 11 years old and not reinstalled, just copied to newer hardware and upgraded | Jan 05 04:13 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: running cruft finds files in /usr and like that the file is for some reason not listed in the package database any more or a file of a package has been deleted. | Jan 05 04:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft - Check the filesystem for cruft (missing and unexplained files) << crufts job. | Jan 05 04:14 |
| amarsh04 | ah ok, thanks | Jan 05 04:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: attempt doing it cruft under Windows you are kinda up the creek due to no proper installation database. | Jan 05 04:15 |
| oiaohm | registery cleaners and system cleaners are basically attempting to wild guess perform cruft. | Jan 05 04:15 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is another tool like cruft for rpm based distrobutions. | Jan 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | but really there is no cruft on FC1 | Jan 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | I only install stuff I want from source | Jan 05 04:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fedora is rpm and cruft only works with deb. | Jan 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | the FC1 repo stopped working ages ago | Jan 05 04:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a different cleaner for rpm based. | Jan 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | ugh, ok that's not what I meant :) | Jan 05 04:16 |
| cubexyz | I meant crufty stuff that must be removed that accumulates over time | Jan 05 04:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and taht is what cruft does for debian systems. | Jan 05 04:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct deb based systems. | Jan 05 04:17 |
| msb_ | No way am I gonna have some program delete files that _it_ thinks shouldn't be there. Sometimes I install programs manually because they aren't in the repo. | Jan 05 04:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if you manannly install properly you tell cruft with --ignore to leave particular directories alone. | Jan 05 04:19 |
| cubexyz | what is the rpm cleaner called? | Jan 05 04:19 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: So all I have to do is _remember_ all the stuff I've manually installed over the last four years? | Jan 05 04:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: don't you use the same prefix for it all like /usr/local. | Jan 05 04:20 |
| msb_ | Who knows? | Jan 05 04:20 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, no | Jan 05 04:20 |
| cubexyz | there's /opt for one | Jan 05 04:20 |
| cubexyz | probably other ones | Jan 05 04:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: /opt and /usr/local is the only 2 places by FHS where user build packages not in package format should be. | Jan 05 04:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: ok other than own home directory. | Jan 05 04:21 |
| cubexyz | /home/usr/ ? | Jan 05 04:21 |
| cubexyz | ok :) | Jan 05 04:21 |
| oiaohm | cruft does not go through home directories. | Jan 05 04:21 |
| msb_ | My system partition is 40GB of which 32GB is used. That's trivial compared to all the other stuff on my 8TB of disks. | Jan 05 04:22 |
| cubexyz | /var can get big | Jan 05 04:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft is not a log cleaner either. | Jan 05 04:23 |
| cubexyz | I had this idea for operating systems and I'm not sure if any OS actually does it | Jan 05 04:23 |
| cubexyz | ok my idea was have two memory systems, one for OS and one for applications | Jan 05 04:23 |
| oiaohm | /var is not something cruft works on. | Jan 05 04:23 |
| cubexyz | so the OS should _never_ run out of memory, only applications | Jan 05 04:24 |
| amarsh04 | undoing an apt-get build-dep basically depends on you saving the list of package names installed by it then echoing the list to xargs dpkg -P | Jan 05 04:24 |
| oiaohm | Under debian you screw up and incorrectly install a source package into /usr instead of /opt or /usr/local you run cruft and debsums and it will locate all files you have hit. | Jan 05 04:24 |
| cubexyz | you could snapshot your drive(s) just before you install something | Jan 05 04:25 |
| cubexyz | I admit it would be quite a bit of work | Jan 05 04:25 |
| oiaohm | Also debsums will unearth cases of binarys being damaged due to bad ram/drive. | Jan 05 04:26 |
| amarsh04 | I've sometimes thought it would be good to have something that could give you a recipie to install packages from scratch and add customised configuration file settings | Jan 05 04:26 |
| msb_ | Mostly I install stuff into my account, to be sure it won't screw up something "legitimately" installed. | Jan 05 04:26 |
| oiaohm | basically debian has lots of tools to audit the system and locate defects. | Jan 05 04:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: exactly most people use to Linux install in 1 of 3 locations /opt /usr/local or /home | Jan 05 04:27 |
| amarsh04 | that would have the disadvantage that configuration file settings change meaning with different versions of packages, so would depend on having back-up copies of versions of any packages no longer in Debian | Jan 05 04:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that if it not from the package manager. | Jan 05 04:28 |
| amarsh04 | cruft has been running for 10 minutes so far on this machine | Jan 05 04:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft is not a fast running program. can take about 12 to 14 hours on a large install. | Jan 05 04:29 |
| amarsh04 | wow | Jan 05 04:29 |
| oiaohm | and most likely you wanted to run it with the -r REPORTFILE option. | Jan 05 04:30 |
| oiaohm | so it does not just report to the console. | Jan 05 04:30 |
| oiaohm | cruft it self does not delete anything automatically just produces a report of what it finds wrong. | Jan 05 04:31 |
| amarsh04 | it would have been good if they put that in the description or at the start of the manual page | Jan 05 04:32 |
| cubexyz | I wrote a df-check thing: | Jan 05 04:32 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/df-check.sh.txt | Jan 05 04:32 |
| amarsh04 | I'm still annoyed that the blkid command doesn't show if you do a man -k uuid | Jan 05 04:32 |
| msb_ | I'm an old hippy hacker (in the good sense). If I want to find something on my system I just use "locate" (actually locgrep). | Jan 05 04:32 |
| amarsh04 | mlocate in use here | Jan 05 04:33 |
| amarsh04 | this installation was initially on a machine with 48 MiB RAM, so things needed to be lightweight (ran twm) | Jan 05 04:35 |
| amarsh04 | but my first unix installation was with 16 MiB RAM | Jan 05 04:35 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft man page is kinda upside down. "CRUFT_DEBUG=1 cruft -r report.txt" is the way I normally run cruft yes anything it finds goes to report.txt and CRUFT_DEBUG=1 makes it tell you want scan its currently running. | Jan 05 04:36 |
| amarsh04 | thanks, I'll try those options oiaohm | Jan 05 04:37 |
| cubexyz | don't package managers have a clean thing built-in? | Jan 05 04:37 |
| cubexyz | there was 'yum clean' | Jan 05 04:38 |
| amarsh04 | yes, but Debian doesn't remove customised configuration files unless purge is specified | Jan 05 04:38 |
| amarsh04 | so if you have to temporarily remove a package, customised settings are retained unless you purge | Jan 05 04:39 |
| amarsh04 | back later, getting dinner | Jan 05 04:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yum clean only purges files that it knows about by the package list. cruft is for fiind miss configrations of some user stuff like opps you deleted /var/mail/user so now you are not getting system reports. And finding files the package manager no longer knows about. | Jan 05 04:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so clean up and basic health check. | Jan 05 04:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the basic idea sounds good | Jan 05 04:59 |
| cubexyz | I wrote a checker for sensitive files | Jan 05 04:59 |
| cubexyz | checks certain files for tampering | Jan 05 05:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the basic idea is the same idea as a registery cleaner or system cleaner under Windows. Difference is cruft is not guessing what should and should not be there due to the package installation system have list of files that should be on the system. | Jan 05 05:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: registery cleaners and system cleaners screw up windows due to lack of information and attempting to guess. | Jan 05 05:04 |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: also I forgot to mention cruft does report some stuff that is harmless. Like pyc precomplier built files. | Jan 05 06:27 |
| amarsh04 | oh, thanks oiaohm | Jan 05 06:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: but it does work as a good location of all files that are not system tracked. | Jan 05 06:28 |
| amarsh04 | 30 megabyte report.txt here | Jan 05 06:29 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: under 5 meg is normal. I would suspect your system has collected some cruft. | Jan 05 06:31 |
| amarsh04 | yes, filtering things out at the moment | Jan 05 06:40 |
| amarsh04 | filtered report file is 1.3 MiB | Jan 05 06:49 |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: basically cruft is not a task need to be run often but for us who have installs that last over 10 years its kinda a good idea to run it. | Jan 05 06:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "proposal of the European patent Office to forbid all former employees to continue their lives with a job in IP" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-secrets-out-agreed-text-of-eu-trade.html?showComment=1451993043707#c7650599002912646681 #epo | Jan 05 10:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: The Secret’s Out! Agreed text of the EU Trade Secrets Directive now available [ http://ur1.ca/odtis ] | Jan 05 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/plfKliQY8A | Jan 05 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtjd | Jan 05 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 05 10:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/plfKliQY8A' | Jan 05 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/684396582641467394 | Jan 05 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz hm, 2nd time works. Thanks | Jan 05 10:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Posts Longer Tribute In Honor Of Its | Jan 05 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Founder https://t.co/2LSP2Lv0NW | Jan 05 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtk3 | Jan 05 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Posts Longer Tribute In Honor Of Its Founder - Phoronix | Jan 05 10:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Primary Selection Support Still Being Worked On | Jan 05 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Wayland https://t.co/AhMoTsIrrY | Jan 05 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 10:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkt | Jan 05 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Primary Selection Support Still Being Worked On For Wayland - Phoronix | Jan 05 10:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/292VtX5xvj (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtku | Jan 05 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 - Phoronix | Jan 05 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GCpVwHQa70 (www.linux.com) | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkw | Jan 05 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Linux.com | Jan 05 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released! https://t.co/Evkh4xLsce | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.blacklablinux.org) | Jan 05 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkx | Jan 05 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been released! | Jan 05 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 Scorpion, testing | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cA0M0CKZsn (q4os.org) | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtne | Jan 05 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating system | Jan 05 11:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hand of Fate is a brilliant game, you should | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | really give it a go on Linux & SteamOS | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3wW3CEUaoh (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtnf | Jan 05 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Hand of Fate is a brilliant game, you should really give it a go on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Jan 05 11:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ogD2WOWJdl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtng | Jan 05 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 11:08 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684406485753966592 | Jan 05 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: .@bastianbest @schestowitz Plus: It's not a patent on a UI but on dividing image streams from an endoscopic camera. | Jan 05 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684406651789651970 https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684407284848553985 https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684407625786765313 | Jan 05 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: @schestowitz I do not fully concur with @bastianbest 's interpretation of that decision. | Jan 05 11:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: @bastianbest @schestowitz Please also note recent BGH decisions nullifying somewhat similar patents: e.g. Fahrzeugsnavigationsystem | Jan 05 11:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: .@bastianbest @schestowitz IMHO the BGH has developed a very finely tuned case law on the question of "software as such" | Jan 05 11:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been | Jan 05 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released! https://t.co/fcRAcdLp8k | Jan 05 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu00 | Jan 05 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been released! | Tux Machines | Jan 05 12:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Announces new Smart TV User Experience | Jan 05 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Tizen Smart Remote Control | Jan 05 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cBbDbySwB2 (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 05 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu01 | Jan 05 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Announces new Smart TV User Experience and Tizen Smart Remote Control - Tizen Experts | Jan 05 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Toast raises $30 million for Android-powered | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | point-of-sale system to challenge Square | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tMK7309jzZ (venturebeat.com) | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2q | Jan 05 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venturebeat.com | Toast raises $30 million for Android-powered point-of-sale system to challenge Square | VentureBeat | Commerce | by Ken Yeung | Jan 05 12:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alcatel OneTouch Pixi 4 hands-on | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HOYfHeziTu | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2r | Jan 05 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Alcatel OneTouch Pixi 4 hands-on - Android Authority | Jan 05 12:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/vCy1ScECGH | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2s | Jan 05 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By Default - Phoronix | Jan 05 12:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This $99 Android box streams PC games to your | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TV with open-source Nvidia Shield tech | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oF3BMECVWi (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WXVF4XUdmr | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.virtual-strategy.com) | Jan 05 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | This $99 Android box streams PC games to your TV with open-source Nvidia Shield tech | PCWorld | Jan 05 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2t | Jan 05 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.virtual-strategy.com | EMTEC Unveils GEM (Game * Entertainment * Multimedia) Box at CES 2016 with PC Library and GameFly Streaming | Virtual-Strategy Magazine | Jan 05 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and robustness https://t.co/UACI9wEGOP | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2u | Jan 05 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability and robustness | Tux Machines | Jan 05 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSS Databases vs Oracle https://t.co/9Gyy5Hl5Gh | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2v | Jan 05 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Databases vs Oracle | Tux Machines | Jan 05 12:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/eh63wg2xm6 | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 12:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2w | Jan 05 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 05 12:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/684440315512631303 | Jan 05 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: @schestowitz There's a range of views about UPC among officials, industry & practitioners. But it is happening so people need to be prepared | Jan 05 13:52 | |
| schestowitz | People, as in not corporations, need to fight back | Jan 05 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By | Jan 05 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/caNC0e4Cv6 | Jan 05 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odudc | Jan 05 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By Default | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Voice of the masses: 2015 was the year of Linux | Jan 05 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and open source software. What next? | Jan 05 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/g2an1Yksa8 (www.linuxvoice.com) | Jan 05 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odudd | Jan 05 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/voice-of-the-masses-2015-was-the-year-of-linux-and-open-source-software-what-next/ ) | Jan 05 14:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and robustness https://t.co/FPaEF304VL | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blogs.gnome.org) | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugi | Jan 05 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2016/01/05/fedora-workstation-and-the-quest-for-stability-and-robustness/ ) | Jan 05 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 have been | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released https://t.co/sAP2FNZWKR | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.wine-reviews.net) | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugj | Jan 05 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wine-reviews.net | Wine Reviews : PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 have been released | Jan 05 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Voice of the masses: 2015 was the year of Linux | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by and open source software. What next? | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @JVVLucien https://t.co/g2an1Yksa8 (www.linuxvoice.com) | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugk | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/BaCV61Of93 | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugl | Jan 05 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Hj2h0rwL09 | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugm | Jan 05 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software Releases | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/N3QOhPUQRA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugp | Jan 05 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software Releases | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Chrome IRC has to be the worst IRC client ever. | Jan 05 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have Chatzilla. | Jan 05 14:48 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure mirc is worse | Jan 05 14:57 |
| MinceR | and comic chat is worse than that | Jan 05 14:57 |
| schestowitz | is that a proprietary one? | Jan 05 14:58 |
| schestowitz | comic? | Jan 05 14:58 |
| MinceR | yup | Jan 05 15:00 |
| MinceR | m$'s own | Jan 05 15:00 |
| MinceR | one of their two attempts to ruin irc | Jan 05 15:00 |
| schestowitz | MS IRC would be funny | Jan 05 15:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe some Word document icons | Jan 05 15:19 |
| schestowitz | to send attachments to each other | Jan 05 15:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Desktop GNU/Linux https://t.co/epyssd3bj9 | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus0 | Jan 05 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 05 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Internet of Things https://t.co/pLnNeyNus6 | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus1 | Jan 05 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for the Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Jan 05 16:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 45 minutes https://t.co/RVAbDDEaaJ | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus2 | Jan 05 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for 45 minutes | Tux Machines | Jan 05 16:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Internet of Things https://t.co/siGurHhfzi | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.xda-developers.com) | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutd | Jan 05 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for the Internet of Things | Jan 05 16:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 45 minutes https://t.co/5P0y2tZwLx | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutf | Jan 05 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for 45 minutes · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 05 16:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Alpine Linux-based LiveCD with OpenVZ | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kernel / tools https://t.co/VexOGanwvn | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.montanalinux.org) | Jan 05 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutg | Jan 05 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Alpine Linux-based LiveCD with OpenVZ kernel / tools | MontanaLinux.org | Jan 05 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/684492193566871552 | Jan 05 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz There was tremendous silliness in extending IP protection 2 trivial & common ideas: Windows, Clouds... https://t.co/kmFKCNcWNO | Jan 05 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz There was tremendous silliness in extending IP protection 2 trivial & common ideas: Windows, Clouds... https://t.co/kmFKCNcWNO | Jan 05 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show Nvidia | Jan 05 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DriveWorks https://t.co/kHtK0kPVlW | Jan 05 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 05 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv0m | Jan 05 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show Nvidia DriveWorks | Jan 05 17:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Aptoide Lands $4M To Grow Its Alternative | Jan 05 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android App Store In Emerging Markets | Jan 05 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LYx7tsqExI (techcrunch.com) | Jan 05 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv0n | Jan 05 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Aptoide Lands $4M To Grow Its Alternative Android App Store In Emerging Markets | TechCrunch | Jan 05 17:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/684503439318085632 | Jan 05 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Oh, I "trick examiners into granting patents on software" https://t.co/BK2Z0hHmBg If it only was so easy *sigh* | Jan 05 17:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | EPO Coverage to Increase in 2016, Including UPC Reality Checks | Techrights | Jan 05 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | lawyers in every domain have their set of tricks for getting their way | Jan 05 17:39 |
| schestowitz | this is, in essence, why many lawyers getting away with changing so much for so little. | Jan 05 17:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show...' | Jan 05 17:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Budgie 16.01 Edition Now in | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing, Ships with Budgie Desktop 10.2.2 | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lD1H3XpqA1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3p | Jan 05 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Budgie 16.01 Edition Now in Testing, Ships with Budgie Desktop 10.2.2 | Jan 05 17:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "NVIDIA... starting off the new year by | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | releasing their first public beta in the 361 | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux driver series." https://t.co/xbbEVTRhSa | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3q | Jan 05 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.16 Beta Driver Now Includes Long-Awaited GLVND - Phoronix | Jan 05 17:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys And DD-WRT (Linux) | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RXDOyYAoT6 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3t | Jan 05 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys And DD-WRT (Linux) | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming (mostly PS4) | Jan 05 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/j1Fe3UPLwh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming (mostly PS4) | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:41 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today was the first day that, as far as I can tell, no news site mentioned Ian #murdock anymore. What a shame. Case unsolved. #police | Jan 05 17:43 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, my FC1 install is almost 12 years old and there really isn't anything I would call cruft | Jan 05 18:02 |
| cubexyz | the log files get bigger, that's about it | Jan 05 18:02 |
| cubexyz | I don't usually run a web browser on that machine, only a web server, so no accumulating firefox/icecat/whatever cache | Jan 05 18:03 |
| cubexyz | there's the drupal backup which occurs each day, that directory will get big | Jan 05 18:04 |
| cubexyz | after the backups get over 1 year old they are moved to optical storage | Jan 05 18:05 |
| cubexyz | there's no cruft in the sense that the accumulating files are unknown in any way, all is known | Jan 05 18:06 |
| cubexyz | I got some files I haven't looked at in a long time though | Jan 05 18:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. /opt/intel/cc/10.1.008/bin | Jan 05 18:13 |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, on a more positive note I' | Jan 05 18:22 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, on a more positive note I've been checking my web server's logs for Linux/CrOS/BSD references | Jan 05 18:23 |
| cubexyz | and I can definitely say it's increasing each year | Jan 05 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/684515031946522624 | Jan 05 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz This problem has lasted millennia. Quis custodiet ipsos custodies? Who watches the watchmen? | Jan 05 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: excellent, you put some stuff there that I too try to link to | Jan 05 18:27 |
| schestowitz | images, texts, blogs | Jan 05 18:27 |
| cubexyz | student-bsod.jpg was downloaded over a thousand times :) | Jan 05 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NewsCoverUp/status/684516589014757376 | Jan 05 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NewsCoverUp: @schestowitz #Jail timez soon for giving to the #Poor #Jesus would love this! | Jan 05 18:31 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: all time? | Jan 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I did link to it a few times | Jan 05 18:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, altogether | Jan 05 18:31 |
| cubexyz | A couple of days after I posted the bsod's a customer called me about another bsod problem | Jan 05 18:32 |
| cubexyz | I'd say things reaching critical mass | Jan 05 18:32 |
| cubexyz | things are | Jan 05 18:32 |
| cubexyz | One thing I've tried to tell people over the years (which was largely ignored) was that Xenix didn't panic when trying to print something | Jan 05 18:34 |
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| cubexyz | there's a fair amount of iPhone and Mac OS X as well | Jan 05 18:38 |
| cubexyz | at least we can say that the non-microsoft component of web browsing is increasing | Jan 05 18:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: FC1 old install is not like a debian system installed over 10 years ago that has in place updated to all current versions. | Jan 05 18:41 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that's true | Jan 05 18:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft tool is important to long term running debians. | Jan 05 18:41 |
| oiaohm | Even cruft has it percentages of false positives. | Jan 05 18:42 |
| oiaohm | Its really really hard to make a perfectly functional system cleaning program. | Jan 05 18:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I don't think it would be that hard assuming you have 10 years of experience with the OS | Jan 05 18:43 |
| cubexyz | and the repos stopped working :) | Jan 05 18:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have many debain setups that are over 10 years old from last clean installation. | Jan 05 18:44 |
| cubexyz | so all security fixes and everything else is manually done by compiling the source | Jan 05 18:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: doing clean up manually is still painful. | Jan 05 18:44 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, add the proviso that you are keeping things static, e.g. kernel the same, gcc the same etc | Jan 05 18:45 |
| cubexyz | eventually you'll learn what all the files do | Jan 05 18:45 |
| cubexyz | not saying the basic idea isn't good though | Jan 05 18:49 |
| cubexyz | the basic idea of the cruft utility | Jan 05 18:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with security updates that trigger kernel updates and other things over 10 years its not common for the systems I deal with to stay that static. | Jan 05 18:55 |
| cubexyz | how far back does that go? | Jan 05 18:56 |
| cubexyz | 2.4 kernel? 2.2 kernel? | Jan 05 18:56 |
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| oiaohm | My oldest updated image goes back to debain 1.1 Linux kernel 2.0 | Jan 05 18:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course its has been inplace upgraded to 4.3.0 kernel now. | Jan 05 18:58 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't the patched older kernel eventually reach the point of being safe? | Jan 05 18:58 |
| cubexyz | new kernel could have new problems | Jan 05 18:59 |
| oiaohm | The answer patched older kernel remember kernel mainline only supports patching kernels for a max of 5 years. | Jan 05 19:00 |
| oiaohm | Then you are on your own. | Jan 05 19:00 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: just there is a point where updating to newer kernel is less effort and less risk than fixing the older kernel. | Jan 05 19:12 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, really? the new kernel needs more memory | Jan 05 19:27 |
| cubexyz | and it's completely unnecessary on 17-year old hardware | Jan 05 19:28 |
| cubexyz | not going to run USB 3.0 or SATA or any of the newer stuff | Jan 05 19:28 |
| cubexyz | that's why there's a BL3 group | Jan 05 19:28 |
| cubexyz | but FC1 is my oldest work machine | Jan 05 19:29 |
| cubexyz | BL3 falls into the classic computing category | Jan 05 19:29 |
| MinceR | "but but but it isn't modern!!!11111one" | Jan 05 19:32 |
| cubexyz | reuse, repurpose, recycle, in that order :) | Jan 05 19:35 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: you have to remember I do cycle out my hardware. Stuff running 24/7 only lasts so long | Jan 05 19:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: running really old hardware has it risks as well. | Jan 05 19:47 |
| MinceR | like not being powerful enough to run systemd | Jan 05 19:47 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, well my 1997 printer works, not seeing much risk there | Jan 05 19:49 |
| cubexyz | I'll just keep it running as long as possible | Jan 05 19:50 |
| cubexyz | on the other hand, I have a huge stack of bad P4 systems | Jan 05 19:50 |
| cubexyz | some hardware does last longer | Jan 05 19:50 |
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| cubexyz | surely it's better for the environment not to junk everything that is > 10 years old? | Jan 05 19:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cpu, motherboards and ram all have limted live in 24/7 running. | Jan 05 19:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: about 8-9 years. | Jan 05 19:52 |
| cubexyz | surely you are joking? | Jan 05 19:52 |
| oiaohm | I am not joking. | Jan 05 19:52 |
| cubexyz | I have tons of working computers older than 10 years | Jan 05 19:52 |
| oiaohm | Note what I said 24/7 loads. | Jan 05 19:53 |
| oiaohm | A system only doing 8 hours a day could last 3 times longer than that. | Jan 05 19:53 |
| cubexyz | ok, then I got 3 that are > 1 years + on 24/7 | Jan 05 19:54 |
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| cubexyz | all P3's | Jan 05 19:54 |
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| cubexyz | that's my observation | Jan 05 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I stay away from Sky (partly news corp). It does more damage than it can inform. | Jan 05 19:54 |
| cubexyz | all on UPS of course | Jan 05 19:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: P3 normally go down to cap failures on motherboards. | Jan 05 19:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you must have been lucky with good quality caps. | Jan 05 19:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: in every adverage there are items that last less and others that last longer. | Jan 05 19:55 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the about 8-9 years is what you can expect without horible strange things coming out of cpu/ram/motherboards. | Jan 05 19:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: harddrives are less. | Jan 05 19:56 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the Tyan one is definitely using Tantalum Polymer capacitors | Jan 05 19:57 |
| cubexyz | the other two I'm not sure | Jan 05 19:57 |
| oiaohm | So higher than adverage grade motherboard. | Jan 05 19:57 |
| cubexyz | but the 8 to 9 year thing seems wrong... maybe 8 to 9 years without a UPS | Jan 05 19:57 |
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| oiaohm | Most likely with higher than adverage grade ram. | Jan 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Even if they were, it's not a work privilege | Jan 05 19:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 8 to 9 years is adverage quality server parts. | Jan 05 19:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with a UPS. | Jan 05 19:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so there is reasons to spend a little more. | Jan 05 19:58 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm a bit surprised by that statistic | Jan 05 19:58 |
| cubexyz | but I am assuming that bad power supplies, bad hard drives and bad memory would be replaced as needed | Jan 05 19:59 |
| cubexyz | those are simple jobs | Jan 05 19:59 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, monitor statistics would be interesting to know as well | Jan 05 20:00 |
| cubexyz | I think a coppermine P3 system could last 20 years or more | Jan 05 20:00 |
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| cubexyz | the UPS might not last 10 years | Jan 05 20:01 |
| cubexyz | surely the batteries will not | Jan 05 20:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: using adverage grade power supplies also releate to shorter cpu ram and motherboard life because even behind UPS they don't produce as clean of power feed to motherboard. | Jan 05 20:01 |
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| oiaohm | P3 with top grade parts I would say 20 years life in 24/7 would be possilbe | Jan 05 20:02 |
| oiaohm | Of course harddrive will have to be replaced 3 to 4 times | Jan 05 20:02 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: but a P3 going 20 years would not be the adverage for P3 machines. | Jan 05 20:03 |
| cubexyz | definitely not :) | Jan 05 20:04 |
| cubexyz | I don't see many of them coming in for repair | Jan 05 20:04 |
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| cubexyz | doesn't Voyager 1 still work? | Jan 05 20:05 |
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| cubexyz | that's 38 years in space... so we know things can be built to last | Jan 05 20:05 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: slower clock speeds large nanometer in silcon makes a big difference. | Jan 05 20:05 |
| cubexyz | I haven't seen a 486 in very long time | Jan 05 20:06 |
| oiaohm | There are new 486 like chips made for sats. | Jan 05 20:06 |
| cubexyz | ok these prices are crazy: | Jan 05 20:08 |
| cubexyz | http://abcresellers.com/store/page2.html | Jan 05 20:08 |
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| cubexyz | I know a place that was selling P3's for $20 | Jan 05 20:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.geek.com/science/nasas-orion-spacecraft-runs-on-a-12-year-old-single-core-processor-from-the-ibook-g3-1611132/ 2014 lanch using a processor that for desktop usage was last made in 2002. | Jan 05 20:10 |
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| cubexyz | price inversion :) | Jan 05 20:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that is the thing with sats | Jan 05 20:10 |
| oiaohm | Most cases they are not using anywhere near new processor chips. Going to extrea to make old cpu design on large nm. | Jan 05 20:10 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, why doesn't intel keep making the older cpus? | Jan 05 20:11 |
| cubexyz | I bet they could | Jan 05 20:11 |
| oiaohm | Why large nm designs are more resistance to the damage from radiation. | Jan 05 20:11 |
| oiaohm | sats have power usage requirements. | Jan 05 20:11 |
| oiaohm | Ie lower the better. | Jan 05 20:11 |
| oiaohm | old x86 designs are power hungery. | Jan 05 20:11 |
| cubexyz | I don't think 486 SX was too power hungry | Jan 05 20:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: compared to the power chips of the time that thing is a hog. | Jan 05 20:17 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, my original amiga 500 power supply was rated for 35 watts | Jan 05 20:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: amiga gpu was not light. | Jan 05 20:18 |
| cubexyz | pretty sure there was a sweet spot, an interval of time were computers uses little power | Jan 05 20:18 |
| cubexyz | s/were/when/ | Jan 05 20:18 |
| oiaohm | There is a mixed sweet spot. On earth is different to space. | Jan 05 20:19 |
| oiaohm | space needs larger nm stuff to behave under radiation load. | Jan 05 20:20 |
| cubexyz | if I wanted power efficient, large nm CPU, repairable for desktop, does it exist? | Jan 05 20:20 |
| oiaohm | Using large nm costs you some power efficiency and speed. | Jan 05 20:20 |
| oiaohm | So newer nm uses less power. | Jan 05 20:21 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically is a double side sword. smaller circuit in nm reduced durablity but increased speed. | Jan 05 20:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and reduced nm also reduces power usage. | Jan 05 20:27 |
| cubexyz | I guess the 8086 used the largest nm process | Jan 05 20:29 |
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| cubexyz | or 8080 even | Jan 05 20:29 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, I once thought about building a usable computer with the lowest transistor count | Jan 05 20:30 |
| cubexyz | z80 maybe | Jan 05 20:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: define of usable is the tricky bit. | Jan 05 20:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-TVout-Keyboard/ when you see stuff like this it starts coming clear that the bottom is is going to be warped. | Jan 05 20:36 |
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| cubexyz | RCA TV? surely a composite monitor would be good enough | Jan 05 20:38 |
| cubexyz | what do you need the TV for? :) | Jan 05 20:39 |
| cubexyz | anyone still get analog tv broadcast? | Jan 05 20:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: third world countries are still analog tv | Jan 05 20:40 |
| MinceR | depends on which third world countries | Jan 05 20:40 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if motherboards still have PS/2 connectors | Jan 05 20:41 |
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| cubexyz | PS/2 interface has lower latency | Jan 05 21:00 |
| MinceR | how much latency does it have? | Jan 05 21:00 |
| MinceR | though iirc it doesn't matter with keyboards as the controller tends to add delay in the process of debouncing anyway | Jan 05 21:01 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, PS/2 wins over USB here | Jan 05 21:03 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Jan 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | full n-key roll-over | Jan 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | interrupt based | Jan 05 21:03 |
| MinceR | my mouse does 1ms latency | Jan 05 21:03 |
| cubexyz | not delayed like USB | Jan 05 21:03 |
| MinceR | and my keyboard does NKRO | Jan 05 21:03 |
| MinceR | over USB | Jan 05 21:03 |
| MinceR | and they both do hotplug | Jan 05 21:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ps2-vs-usb-keyboard.txt | Jan 05 21:04 |
| MinceR | http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/40375-how-does-nkro-over-usb-work/ | Jan 05 21:05 |
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| cubexyz | you want NKRO? | Jan 05 21:08 |
| MinceR | i do, and i have it | Jan 05 21:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, except for hotlug PS/2 keyboard is better :) | Jan 05 21:14 |
| cubexyz | hotplug | Jan 05 21:14 |
| cubexyz | and this keyboard is old and crapped up | Jan 05 21:15 |
| cubexyz | not too happy with my keyboard actually | Jan 05 21:15 |
| MinceR | apparently NKRO mode has to be explicitly turned on on my keyboard (since it won't work with some OSes) but it does work | Jan 05 21:15 |
| MinceR | USB is also better for the ability to replicate ports with hubs | Jan 05 21:16 |
| cubexyz | I really need a keyboard I can clean :-/ | Jan 05 21:17 |
| MinceR | silicone? :> | Jan 05 21:17 |
| MinceR | or perhaps a projection keyboard :> | Jan 05 21:19 |
| cubexyz | do those exist? | Jan 05 21:20 |
| cubexyz | oh wow, $263 | Jan 05 21:21 |
| cubexyz | I don't know about those MinceR | Jan 05 21:22 |
| cubexyz | interesting idea though | Jan 05 21:22 |
| MinceR | not sure if the latter is still available | Jan 05 21:22 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen the former in a shop | Jan 05 21:22 |
| MinceR | but decided not to buy it after seeing that it folds up into an enormous cylinder | Jan 05 21:22 |
| cubexyz | maybe if the price goes down I'll try it | Jan 05 21:23 |
| cubexyz | they're on ebay for $40 | Jan 05 21:23 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/1979-sears-atari-400.jpg | Jan 05 21:40 |
| cubexyz | not so good old keyboard | Jan 05 21:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 05 21:41 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZX80.jpg | Jan 05 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:ZX80.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/odvwq ] | Jan 05 21:41 | |
| cubexyz | they were called Timex Sinclair 1000 over here | Jan 05 21:42 |
| cubexyz | but Atari 400 was first :) | Jan 05 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Jan 05 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Linux.com | Jan 05 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear | Jan 05 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear outdoors | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a | Jan 05 21:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dueling Raspberry Pi drone autopilots ship in | Jan 05 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a stylus | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q1 https://t.co/VJksX0hCx1 | Jan 05 21:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android++ For Visual Studio Is Now Open Source | Jan 06 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android++ For Visual Studio Is Now Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 06 00:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The January 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Jan 06 00:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2016-01-05 (stable) | Jan 06 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2016-01-05 (stable) | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 06 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch" and Trinity Desktop 14.0.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Delayed for January 27, 2016 | Jan 06 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Delayed for January 27, 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:03 | |
| oiaohm | Now this has taken like forever. http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta OpenGL Vendor-Neutral Driver infrastructure on Linux | Jan 06 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.16 Beta Driver Now Includes Long-Awaited GLVND - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/odwih ] | Jan 06 01:51 | |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/q4os-2-0-2-scorpion-is-based-on-debian-9-0-stretch-and-trinity-desktop-14-0-3-498496.shtml Doesn't Stretch use systemd? | Jan 06 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch" and Trinity Desktop 14.0.3 [ http://ur1.ca/odwob ] | Jan 06 03:12 | |
| cubexyz | that's a different version of Q4OS | Jan 06 03:15 |
| cubexyz | the version I use is based on debian wheezy and has trinity 3.5.13.2 | Jan 06 03:16 |
| cubexyz | I wanted trinity, but not systemd | Jan 06 03:16 |
| msb_ | I mistakenly thought, from your enthusiasm for q4os, that it had specifically rejected systemd. | Jan 06 03:20 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Oh well, another one bites the dust. | Jan 06 03:22 |
| cubexyz | hardly that | Jan 06 03:22 |
| cubexyz | just like I use FC1 and don't use modern Fedora | Jan 06 03:23 |
| cubexyz | I'll keep using the version of Q4OS I have | Jan 06 03:24 |
| cubexyz | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | Jan 06 03:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/mvnix ] | Jan 06 03:24 | |
| cubexyz | I will say this... archive your linux distros you like | Jan 06 03:25 |
| cubexyz | I'm going through my archives right now actually | Jan 06 03:26 |
| msb_ | I think you should port Unix to a Turing Machine made from a cross-connected 12AX7 and a mercury delay line. After the apocalypse, we can make our own vacuum tubes. | Jan 06 03:29 |
| oiaohm | It is going to be harder and harder to avoid having something systemd like http://sourceforge.net/p/q4os/discussion/Support1/thread/91ea6ef2/?limit=25#9126 | Jan 06 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | Q4OS / Forums / 1. Q4OS Support:Power Managment [ http://ur1.ca/odwpt ] | Jan 06 03:32 | |
| oiaohm | Increased complexity of motherboards and pci and usb for power management is a problem that there is not anyone other than systemd working on a solution for. | Jan 06 03:33 |
| oiaohm | Of course I do see a chance that some point in future openrc might start addressing that problem. | Jan 06 03:38 |
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| cubexyz | yeah q4os might be a bit of a dead end | Jan 06 04:28 |
| cubexyz | I got a huge stack of Linux and BSD discs | Jan 06 04:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #FirefoxOS will Power New #Panasonic UHD TVs | Jan 06 04:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/684544679728279552 | Jan 06 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz It was an interesting and slightly worrying report, for once. | Jan 06 05:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684603713416216576 | Jan 06 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz for my app project we use both Azure and AWS; the heavy-duty part will be on AWS but we do like Azure as well for some purposes | Jan 06 05:02 | |
| schestowitz | MS Bot https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/684582179574251521 | Jan 06 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Google rolls over on Android Java, puts Oracle in driver's seat & potentially giving MS a boost. @schestowitz @zdnet https://t.co/fg4X6zfBvy | Jan 06 05:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Android Wars 2016: Google surrenders to Oracle as Microsoft allies with Cyanogen | ZDNet | Jan 06 05:02 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not really Google going openjdk solves the legal issue. Oracle case in the copyright related. Google developer has used a automated tool to take a java runtime dll and produce source code. | Jan 06 05:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: opps jar not dll. | Jan 06 05:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so section of android code base was highly questionable. | Jan 06 05:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android is ousting Windows from its last mobile | Jan 06 06:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android is ousting Windows from its last mobile bastion | InfoWorld | Jan 06 06:24 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Tux Machines | Jan 06 08:16 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK spies publish NoSQL database system as open source | Tux Machines | Jan 06 08:17 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant @schestowitz https://t.co/Xwzn7ASQrw | Jan 06 13:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> robindoherty.com | Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant | Jan 06 13:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sunmd7/status/684745728388890624 | Jan 06 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sunmd7: @Cargill @DrZuhdiJasser @schestowitz there is no reason to give anyone time off to pray - that is selective appeasement. Let themprayoffwork | Jan 06 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AIFDemocracy/status/684751439944630272 | Jan 06 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AIFDemocracy: .@Cargill please read our take on the #Cargill prayer controversy. CAIR doesn't represent all Muslims: @schestowitz https://t.co/EciN8Y7Kmo | Jan 06 13:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bikedb06/status/684753710811975680 | Jan 06 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bikedb06: @sunmd7 @Cargill @DrZuhdiJasser @schestowitz Totally agree. What's next??Accept and respect our laws, or go home to the country were it isOK | Jan 06 13:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edcbm/status/684756291122819073 | Jan 06 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edcbm: @AIFDemocracy @Cargill @schestowitz Where is MSM ie @washingtonpost @NBCPolitics @ABC @chucktodd @GStephanopoulos reporting on this? | Jan 06 13:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/QuiBirdie/status/684757652392554496 | Jan 06 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QuiBirdie: @Cargill @schestowitz Are those prayer breaks allowed for ALL religions? | Jan 06 13:05 | |
| schestowitz | I may require my second lunch break to have some pasta as I'm in the Flying Spaghetti monster church ;-) | Jan 06 13:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/684763895752474624 | Jan 06 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: MS admits Windows 10 (Orwell) is watching you: "Massive Windows 10 Success Has Six Nasty Surprises." @schestowitz https://t.co/WKyGo9gFtC | Jan 06 13:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #NewBalance is making an Android Wear | Jan 06 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatch, and Intel is putting chips in its | Jan 06 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | shoes https://t.co/jd6CRNTC2L | Jan 06 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | New Balance is making an Android Wear smartwatch, and Intel is putting chips in its shoes | The Verge | Jan 06 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Jan 06 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m1fciQh5uT (www.ubergizmo.com) | Jan 06 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com | Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Ubergizmo | Jan 06 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and | Jan 06 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08.3 https://t.co/GtVphQ5Rb8 | Jan 06 13:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3 | Jan 06 13:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sylvia Sanchez: How do you Fedora | Jan 06 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2fH5tGCNIm (fedoramagazine.org) | Jan 06 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/sylvia-sanchez-fedora/ ) | Jan 06 13:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6947535 | Jan 06 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Jan 06 13:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/684803238089064448 | Jan 06 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @Cargill I am Catholic but work on Sundays and religious holidays if my shift so requires. And don't whine about it. | Jan 06 13:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6947535 | Jan 06 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Oklahoma Is Now the Earthquake Capital of the US http://commondreams.org/news/2016/01/05/oklahoma-now-earthquake-capital-america "over the risks of oil and gas operations like hydraulic fracturing" | Jan 06 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> commondreams.org | Oklahoma Is Now the Earthquake Capital of America | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community | Jan 06 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6947456 | Jan 06 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold http://original.antiwar.com/brad_hoff/2016/01/05/new-hillary-emails-reveal-propaganda-executions-coveting-libyan-oil-and-gold/ #clinton #libya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y | Jan 06 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> original.antiwar.com | New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com [ http://ur1.ca/odyki ] | Jan 06 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nf3y2 ] | Jan 06 13:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3...' | Jan 06 14:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ZTE launches two inexpensive Android phones at | Jan 06 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CES 2016 https://t.co/wmGPK0Dw23 | Jan 06 14:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | ZTE launches two inexpensive Android phones at CES 2016 | The Verge | Jan 06 14:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TeX Live security improvements | Jan 06 14:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DivineNoodles: @schestowitz @QuiBirdie @Cargill I think 'second breakfast' is a very holy tradition that should be respected. R'amen. #FSM | Jan 06 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'TeX Live security improvements https://t.co/wU0JpQsIz6' | Jan 06 14:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TeXLive security improvements | Jan 06 14:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SCJEsLRZog (www.preining.info) | Jan 06 14:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | TeX Live security improvements | | Jan 06 14:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Balance announces Android Wear smartwatch | Jan 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for running smartphone-free | Jan 06 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bWVcNZCGOC (mashable.com) | Jan 06 14:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | New Balance announces Android Wear smartwatch for running smartphone-free | Jan 06 14:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android needs a bit of growing up for | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | productivity https://t.co/oNO8RDhacv | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) peripheral shortage an | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | issue | Jan 06 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android needs a bit of growing up for productivity - SlashGear | Jan 06 14:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Set Top Box Lets You Stream and Record | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | via HDMI Input https://t.co/aJ6ptYfuwC | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (hackaday.com) | Jan 06 14:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | Android Set Top Box Lets You Stream and Record via HDMI Input | Hackaday | Jan 06 14:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia's Shield Android TV gets a little more | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | customizable with Marshmallow upgrade | Jan 06 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dsiXk5QP3f (www.theverge.com) | Jan 06 14:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Nvidia's Shield Android TV gets a little more customizable with Marshmallow upgrade | The Verge | Jan 06 14:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The excellent Remix OS is bringing Android to | Jan 06 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | every old x86 PC (and Mac) for free | Jan 06 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G9hrwyQ87K (thenextweb.com) | Jan 06 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | The excellent Remix OS is bringing Android to every old x86 PC (and Mac) | Jan 06 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio launches Android Wear smartwatch that | Jan 06 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | lasts a month per charge | Jan 06 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3dr4UNQ4Hi (www.theguardian.com) | Jan 06 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Casio launches Android Wear smartwatch that lasts a month per charge | Technology | The Guardian | Jan 06 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 23 on Tegra K1 Chromebook | Jan 06 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DjtcRNl0kh (kushaldas.in) | Jan 06 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Fedora 23 on Tegra K1 Chromebook | Jan 06 14:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Announces New Chromecast Audio And | Jan 06 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android TV Hardware Partners | Jan 06 14:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HzXJcup9Ea (techcrunch.com) | Jan 06 14:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Google Announces New Chromecast Audio And Android TV Hardware Partners | TechCrunch | Jan 06 14:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on | Jan 06 14:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 14:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eKaw7crM4R (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 06 14:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on board with Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jan 06 14:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on | Jan 06 14:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStreetMap https://t.co/L6fr69yeFC | Jan 06 14:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap | Tux Machines | Jan 06 14:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New | Jan 06 15:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TV https://t.co/6sq1dXdMAv | Jan 06 15:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New Panasonic UHD TV | Tux Machines | Jan 06 15:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs...' | Jan 06 15:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/co_lennon/status/684832196570537984 | Jan 06 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@co_lennon: that is very good for Cruz if the White House questions his citizenship. Only helps h https://t.co/pO34CPQHWo https://t.co/Fh4jxR323Y | Jan 06 15:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more | Jan 06 15:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New ‘Jihadi John?’ ISIS Video Features English-Speaker https://t.co/aMDwnkpwEK stop with the glorifying nicknames... doesn't help. | Jan 06 15:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New...' | Jan 06 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible | Jan 06 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BattlEye support to come too | Jan 06 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sozXmzslPD (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 06 15:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible BattlEye support to come too | GamingOnLinux | Jan 06 15:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Natural Selection 2 has a major update, the | Jan 06 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux experience is quite terrible | Jan 06 15:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Natural Selection 2 has a major update, the Linux experience is quite terrible | GamingOnLinux | Jan 06 15:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible | Jan 06 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BattlEye support to come too | Jan 06 15:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on | Jan 06 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NKigRHxivJ (www.gizmag.com) | Jan 06 15:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmag.com | Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 15:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm....All the news is talking about are the conservatives flipping their shit that there will be some new gun control. | Jan 06 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on | Jan 06 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStreetMap https://t.co/pbYqkE7JnN | Jan 06 15:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap | Jan 06 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 06 15:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New Panasonic UHD TV | Jan 06 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ' | Jan 06 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New | Jan 06 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TV https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ | Jan 06 15:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Just as an executive order, but the effects will be the most significant since at least 1993. | Jan 06 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's a pretty reasonable list, so of course they're all flocking to the gun stores to hoard ammunition. Say goodbye to .22 long rifle ammo for a while so people can stock up for Red Dawn. LOL | Jan 06 15:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684837739808862209 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684838212985057281 | Jan 06 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz they are missing A LOT | Jan 06 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz and wtf is this e10s mentioned earlier in the buglist thread? | Jan 06 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684838589214126080 | Jan 06 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz in about:preferences#advanced I always disable "health report" so I guess Mozzarella Foundation doesn't get my "telemetry" | Jan 06 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | spyware in Mozilla | Jan 06 15:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/earl_malmrose/status/684841822728814592 | Jan 06 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@earl_malmrose: @schestowitz Apple competes quite well. But they're so egotistical that they think all competition is unworthy of them. | Jan 06 16:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684842027981352960 | Jan 06 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz if Moz wants to check how many people use extensions why not look at the server logs on https://t.co/5oMokMrGCI for downloads?? | Jan 06 16:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Won't count uninstalled ones | Jan 06 16:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines System 76 Oryx Pro review: A laptop for your | Jan 06 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desk https://t.co/rWnbmTX0Ma (www.cio.com) | Jan 06 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | System 76 Oryx Pro review: A laptop for your desk | CIO | Jan 06 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "fully-supported commercial version of its | Jan 06 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Networking Operating System (ONOS)." | Jan 06 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nt40ow7oOX (www.telecomasia.net) | Jan 06 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telecomasia.net | Ciena, ON.Lab collaborate on Open Source OS | Telecom Asia | Jan 06 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon Makes EC2 Cloud Hosting Cheaper, | Jan 06 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Especially for Linux https://t.co/mQq6paEmsu | Jan 06 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thevarguy.com) | Jan 06 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Amazon Makes EC2 Cloud Hosting Cheaper, Especially for Linux | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jan 06 16:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6948379 | Jan 06 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox "analysis of users and estimated that approximately 40% do not have any addons installed at all." https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229949#c8 #mozilla | Jan 06 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | "And those are only people that didn’t disable the Mozilla’s spy, meaning the percentage is much lower than that." | Jan 06 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1229949 – What percentage of release channel users have add-ons installed | Jan 06 16:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The release of #plasma 5.6 foreseen (March) | Jan 06 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4PyOyGn7Ku (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 06 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | also: https://t.co/iLMnJ5mUbo | Jan 06 17:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Technology of the Year Finalist: Android | Jan 06 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Auto https://t.co/mqsZlFoea1 (www.autoblog.com) | Jan 06 17:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Chrome browser, you just put in the right URL | Jan 06 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and credentials and after a few seconds the | Jan 06 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME desktop appears." https://t.co/HlpmYWzkob | Jan 06 17:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 Upgrade Path Is Now Open for | Jan 06 18:01 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 06 18:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, as promised here is my provisional archive list | Jan 06 18:44 |
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| sebsebseb | cubexyz: hi just found out about a new wm/de looks interesting from screenshots | Jan 06 18:45 |
| cubexyz | provisional since there's discs I haven't checked yet | Jan 06 18:45 |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb, what's that? | Jan 06 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I just treid to install into Ubuntu as well, but then reolise that well yeah not on latests, I thought I Had upgraded this install already this re install, but I guess not then | Jan 06 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: there's some kind of OS with it to the wm/de | Jan 06 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Budgie, maybe? | Jan 06 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | (SolusOS) | Jan 06 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep that | Jan 06 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: https://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/installing-the-solus-budgie-desktop-on-ubuntu/ | Jan 06 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xpressubuntu.wordpress.com | Installing the Solus budgie-desktop on Ubuntu | xpress-ubuntu | Jan 06 18:48 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: heh I felt a bit like running well trying to run random commands that were on some guys blog, but they seem ok, not malcious | Jan 06 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | errored in 15.04 I thought I had already upgrgraded this re intsall to 15.10, but nope | Jan 06 18:49 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: have you used Budige / SolusOS ? | Jan 06 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nope, it doesn't look interesting to me. | Jan 06 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | it looks basic | Jan 06 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | like XFCE or something but more to it htan just that | Jan 06 18:50 |
| XRevan86 | exactly | Jan 06 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | what to being basic? | Jan 06 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: well it's fun to try out new wm's/de's :d | Jan 06 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | it uses things like Mutter on the background, GNOME stuff | Jan 06 18:51 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: So I'm staying put on MATE (and making Cinnamon possible on openSUSE as an alternative) | Jan 06 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | uh yur running openSUSE | Jan 06 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | I never liked Cinnamon much, I do like Mate though | Jan 06 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | of course I like Mate, I liekd GNOME 2 a lot before :) | Jan 06 18:51 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yep, and MATE doesn't seem that basic. | Jan 06 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: What do you think about Pantheon? | Jan 06 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | Phantheon that's a wm/de not used that if so | Jan 06 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | (Elementary OS) | Jan 06 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | Mate is great, it's just GNOEM 2 living on, that's my prefered DE atter GNOME 3 | Jan 06 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | GNOME 3 being my favourite | Jan 06 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | and Unity isn't that bad actsaully | Jan 06 18:54 |
| cubexyz | what you do actually use for work? | Jan 06 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | decided to try it out again the other month on a computer again, well mostly, and well getting bored of that again now | Jan 06 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: As an openSUSE guy (a non-Ubuntu) guy I can say with proper knowledge that Unity is bad. | Jan 06 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: pretty much any de/wm will be fine for me to use for what I use a computer for :) | Jan 06 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | Unity uses so much Ubuntu-specific stuff including Gtk patches that it sickens | Jan 06 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I am not an Ubuntu guy either really, used to be someone who helepd out in #ubuntu a lot, but then moved on to other stuff, got invovled with Mageia | Jan 06 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | reallly I am a Magiea guy, but I don't actsaullhy hae that installed on here at the moment since...... | Jan 06 18:55 |
| cubexyz | Ubuntu isn't even on the radar for me | Jan 06 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | altough I have become someone who likes UBuntu PHone quite a bit last year | Jan 06 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Come to openSUSE side, we have cookies^W OBS | Jan 06 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | and I actsaully found the lost BQ phone on Tuesday that was good :) | Jan 06 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | I lost my phone back in July | Jan 06 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | (I hope Disney won't sue me) | Jan 06 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | I thought it had happended on the house drive etc | Jan 06 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | after travelling | Jan 06 18:56 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jan 06 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but no turns out it was some where, just very hidden away there | Jan 06 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | I was doing some cleaning etc and well, oh what's that? | Jan 06 18:56 |
| cubexyz | Lucas was already rich, why did he sell out? | Jan 06 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | oh it's a phone hmm oh, not some old phone Nokia or whatevr right, nope it was the bq :) | Jan 06 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: nah openSUSE is linekd to Micrsooft in some way or the other | Jan 06 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: as MinceR and schestowitz and so on would all say as well | Jan 06 18:57 |
| cubexyz | no KDE 3.5.10 adherents? :) | Jan 06 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: and it's never appealed to me as a distro, I remember trying Yast out before hwen I used SYnaptic a lot in Ubuntu, and being like uh, it didn't work etc | Jan 06 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | we have a nice control centre in Mageia and such anyway so :) | Jan 06 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I might try and install TRinity into this Ubuntu install actsaully once it's upgraded to 15.10 as well | Jan 06 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | there's no KDE 4 installed really at the moment to, well except for what say konversion needs | Jan 06 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | I remember there being some issues with Kubuntu in both 15.04 and 15.10 not quite working right hmm | Jan 06 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | but eh to that, I would run that in Mageia on occasion for example once installed | Jan 06 18:58 |
| MinceR | *suse is also linked to lendows | Jan 06 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: lendows ??? windows? | Jan 06 18:59 |
| MinceR | cancerd & co | Jan 06 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: He means systemd | Jan 06 18:59 |
| sebsebseb | oh systemd | Jan 06 18:59 |
| sebsebseb | well Mageia usees that, FEdora I think to, etc etc | Jan 06 18:59 |
| MinceR | if it's toxic crap, *suse loves it | Jan 06 18:59 |
| cubexyz | I only use cruelty-free, systemd-free, microsoft-free OSes :) | Jan 06 18:59 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: heh your bound to get trolled for likeing SUSE here, oh right yeah I think I seen that before a few times ?:d | Jan 06 18:59 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah SUSE is linked to Microsoft so hmm | Jan 06 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nah, I usually keep out of discussions I don't have a real argument in. | Jan 06 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | I been foucssing on uhmm other things in my life for months | Jan 06 19:00 |
| MinceR | well, at least making a patent deal with m$ that enables FUD against GNU/Linux is not "trolling" | Jan 06 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | partly why this lap top still isnt' qutie set up how I want ti | Jan 06 19:00 |
| MinceR | that's great | Jan 06 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | it | Jan 06 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah I need to get Mageia 5 on here really :) | Jan 06 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | Like that Microsoft-loving flag is now being given from SUSE to Red Hat | Jan 06 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | and how I wanted to re install WIndodws 10 to | Jan 06 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jan 06 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | no installation media and uh | Jan 06 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | and Novell is pretty dead now | Jan 06 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | I guess the restore option will only re set WIndows mainly, not remove Ubuntu or whatever else is on here to, but can't really know for sure, untill I try | Jan 06 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | another reason why I haven't set things up | Jan 06 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | with more than one distro yet as well | Jan 06 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | Microsoft-linked Attachmate Group got selled to Micro Focus | Jan 06 19:02 |
| *sebsebseb thinks his WIndwos 10 install might hae some malware in it | Jan 06 19:02 | |
| sebsebseb | since trying some program that wasn't really the best to try beffore | Jan 06 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | since it was ike getting a random program from the net it turns out | Jan 06 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | which isn't particuarly clever really when running WIndows! | Jan 06 19:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/key-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png | Jan 06 19:03 |
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| cubexyz | aww, did I do that again :-/ | Jan 06 19:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png | Jan 06 19:03 |
| cubexyz | learn to type | Jan 06 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Micro Focus, as far as I know, is not owned by Microsoft. | Jan 06 19:04 |
| cubexyz | no worriessss :) | Jan 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see an apology from the *suse people for helping m$ against their own users | Jan 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/684857095863300096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/684857359122984960 | Jan 06 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Chrome browser, you just put in the right URL and credentials and after a few seconds the #GNOME desktop appears." https://t.co/5CQoYcIGaf | Jan 06 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> davelargo.blogspot.com | Dave Richards - City of Largo Work Blog: More NX & Chrome Books | Jan 06 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #IPv6 non-alternatives: DJB's article, 13 years later https://t.co/ZkqDNO3XZn | Jan 06 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson | Jan 06 19:05 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: SUSE has a big past with Micrsooft | Jan 06 19:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Cargill/status/684887259481440256 | Jan 06 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yes, it has. | Jan 06 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cargill: @QuiBirdie @schestowitz Yes, all employees at our plant can ask for prayer breaks and the prayer room is open to all faiths. | Jan 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | Incentive to claims of being religious. I wonder where an atheist like me stands. I can call Playstation my religion. ;-) | Jan 06 19:07 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: And now it got somewhat dumped by Microsoft, and nobody cares anymore. | Jan 06 19:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/QuiBirdie/status/684887948341411842 | Jan 06 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QuiBirdie: @Cargill @schestowitz Right on! That's awesome! 😀 | Jan 06 19:08 | |
| sebsebseb | 2016 should be a interesitngg year for Desktop Linux | Jan 06 19:10 |
| sebsebseb | certain distro's going Wayland or Mir probably | Jan 06 19:10 |
| sebsebseb | some een with btfs by default I guess | Jan 06 19:10 |
| XRevan86 | btrfs? | Jan 06 19:10 |
| sebsebseb | yes btrfs | Jan 06 19:10 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly FEdora a recent future not yet to be relasesd version wil probably go Wayland yep | Jan 06 19:11 |
| sebsebseb | full Wayland | Jan 06 19:11 |
| sebsebseb | and I read that it's already used for the log in screen apparnatly | Jan 06 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I don't believe in Wayland in 2016. | Jan 06 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | I don't follow Fedora | Jan 06 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | maximum as "oh look, it's Wayland and it can run GNOME!" | Jan 06 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: why's that? | Jan 06 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | KDE can also run with Wayland I think? | Jan 06 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: XWayland is terrible. | Jan 06 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | and there's like compatiablhy thing for other stuff | Jan 06 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | totally terrible | Jan 06 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I haen't used it, how's it so terrible? | Jan 06 19:12 |
| MinceR | i hope wayland won't get stuck at the level the lendows people want it to be at | Jan 06 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which is? | Jan 06 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Just try it. | Jan 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | cancerd only, no pointer grab, no pointer warp, no screenshots, no server-side decorations | Jan 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | no modularity, no options | Jan 06 19:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, this is what I use: fc1, openbsd 4.7, vector linux classic, q4os, CrOS | Jan 06 19:13 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think Canonical will probably switch Ubuntu Desktop over to Mir and Unity 8 with Ubuntu 16.10 or to start to switch it over properly, if not a complete switch | Jan 06 19:13 |
| cubexyz | not counting the old stuff | Jan 06 19:13 |
| sebsebseb | they can't do a big change or start to do it properly for the LTS, taht woudl be insane crazy | Jan 06 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | ,but they can for 16.10 | Jan 06 19:14 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly thre's some sort of test versio as well Unity 8 on Mir for the computer | Jan 06 19:14 |
| XRevan86 | > systemd only | Jan 06 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: um… | Jan 06 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | Nor Wayland nor Weston require systemd | Jan 06 19:15 |
| MinceR | they require logind, don't they? | Jan 06 19:15 |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit surprised no one here seems to use BSD | Jan 06 19:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/1/2016: CES Focus, Firefox OS in | Jan 06 19:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TVs https://t.co/79xIAgB8ug | Jan 06 19:15 |
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| MinceR | i'll look at migrating to netbsd | Jan 06 19:15 |
| MinceR | or openbsd | Jan 06 19:15 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Linux is wehre it's at | Jan 06 19:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/vAm9EZfcfl | Jan 06 19:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 06 19:15 | |
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| MinceR | i'm sick of using a system which is developed according to political agenda, not technical merit | Jan 06 19:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Don't see it in deps | Jan 06 19:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which system? | Jan 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: gnu/linux | Jan 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | well, more like systemd/linux now | Jan 06 19:16 |
| sebsebseb | well not all distros haev gone systemd, bu yes most of the main ones have if not all of them really | Jan 06 19:16 |
| cubexyz | I bet there's still tons of GNU in there still | Jan 06 19:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What if OpenBSD is being developed to kill GPL? | Jan 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | i also wonder if i can get a task scheduler that sucks less | Jan 06 19:17 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i'd like to see evidence for that | Jan 06 19:17 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: also, redcrap's promotion of the dbus hole seems to be doing more against GPL | Jan 06 19:17 |
| cubexyz | the programmer decides which license to use | Jan 06 19:17 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: What's the evidence of political agendas? | Jan 06 19:18 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: take a look at how far kdbus got before it was shot down, for example | Jan 06 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How far? | Jan 06 19:22 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: afaict only Linus stood between it and mainline | Jan 06 19:22 |
| MinceR | and it totally sucks | Jan 06 19:22 |
| MinceR | the only reason it would get in is that that's what redcrap wants | Jan 06 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | I thought it was just staged for ever. | Jan 06 19:23 |
| MinceR | m$ already managed to get horribly crap code integrated | Jan 06 19:23 |
| MinceR | ironically, it's incompatible with cancerd | Jan 06 19:24 |
| MinceR | it has "/etc/init.d/networking restart" hardcoded into it | Jan 06 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: details | Jan 06 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | > /etc/init.d/networking | Jan 06 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | isn't that a Debian thing? | Jan 06 19:24 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 06 19:25 |
| MinceR | it's more of a sysvinit/rc thing, afaik | Jan 06 19:25 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: init doesn't care about networking | Jan 06 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | (well, unless it's systemd or OpenRC) | Jan 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | right, the networking script itself might be a debian thing | Jan 06 19:26 |
| cubexyz | on fc1 it was /etc/init.d/network | Jan 06 19:26 |
| cubexyz | in debian it's /etc/init.d/networking | Jan 06 19:27 |
| cubexyz | at least in debian wheezy it is | Jan 06 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Where do they place this code? | Jan 06 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's still there. | Jan 06 19:27 |
| MinceR | ah, it's network, not networking | Jan 06 19:27 |
| MinceR | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/hyperv/netvsc_drv.c?id=3a494e710367c0a233d86bcde9853781859fc008#n784 | Jan 06 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree | Jan 06 19:27 | |
| MinceR | so it probably won't work on debian either | Jan 06 19:27 |
| cubexyz | slackware had /etc/rc.d/rc.network | Jan 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | i mean the last stable version ever, wheezy | Jan 06 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It was mainlin'd!? | Jan 06 19:28 |
| cubexyz | confused yet? :) | Jan 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | looks like it | Jan 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder what these people think they're doing anymore | Jan 06 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | Okay, so nobody checks the code in Linux | Jan 06 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's not political, see? | Jan 06 19:29 |
| MinceR | we'll see | Jan 06 19:29 |
| cubexyz | it's kind of a mess, hurray :) | Jan 06 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | yay | Jan 06 19:29 |
| MinceR | after all, the cult's answer to kdbus not being merged was to make systemd depend more on it | Jan 06 19:29 |
| cubexyz | openbsd had a different thing: /etc/netstart | Jan 06 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I see that as a childish way to show self-importance. | Jan 06 19:31 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: meanwhile there was also a plot to move the VT code out of the kernel and into systemd | Jan 06 19:31 |
| cubexyz | so really the BSD's follow Unix the closest | Jan 06 19:31 |
| cubexyz | since netstart first appears in 4.0BSD long before Linux even existed | Jan 06 19:32 |
| cubexyz | netstart even predates tcp/ip :) | Jan 06 19:33 |
| cubexyz | now why everyone thought to do it different in all the linux distros I don't know | Jan 06 19:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I remember that, yeah. | Jan 06 19:36 |
| cubexyz | basically netstart was/is a bourne shell script | Jan 06 19:36 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, you better jump to BSD soon :) | Jan 06 19:37 |
| MinceR | i'll see if i can | Jan 06 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | But right now I'm too upset with that Linux's mainline has a hardcoded distro-specific path hidden somewhere. | Jan 06 19:37 |
| MinceR | and whether i'll be better off with it or not | Jan 06 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | Good night. | Jan 06 19:37 |
| MinceR | o/ | Jan 06 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | Now it's even harder to believe in Linux. | Jan 06 19:38 |
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| cubexyz | see, this is really a temporal thing | Jan 06 19:39 |
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| cubexyz | old linux was/is fine | Jan 06 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | I don't mean that in proprietary way. | Jan 06 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | That is totally impossible to believe in. | Jan 06 19:39 |
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| cubexyz | so I'm basically running older linux beside BSD | Jan 06 19:40 |
| cubexyz | that's my solution | Jan 06 19:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6948388 | Jan 06 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on #OpenStreetMap http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-maps-to-allow-users-to-add-pois-on-openstreetmap-498515.shtml | Jan 06 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap [ http://ur1.ca/oe02j ] | Jan 06 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | "Finally a POI editor. We need more such ones on mobile systems. Cloudmade used to make one." | Jan 06 20:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/684894519540727808 | Jan 06 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @Cargill It requires intensive night prayers causing my sleep pattern to be disrupted, this happens every AAA release dates. | Jan 06 20:19 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 06 20:21 |
| schestowitz | see context | Jan 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | I got lots of attention for this today | Jan 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | mostly from people who are against Muslims bering a rug to work | Jan 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | (not for yoga) | Jan 06 20:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, just did | Jan 06 20:26 |
| schestowitz | and the employer is not in damage control mode | Jan 06 20:27 |
| schestowitz | got lots of horrible publicity in lots of site, maybe even death threats (because it's fanatic Muslims who can't help praying to Mecca at work) | Jan 06 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Condell used to say | Jan 06 20:27 |
| schestowitz | (and now it seems correctly so) | Jan 06 20:27 |
| schestowitz | that many in the UK view hiring Muslims risky | Jan 06 20:27 |
| schestowitz | if they let them pray people lose respect for the staff | Jan 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | and they feel like they get discriminated against | Jan 06 20:28 |
| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2234.html | Jan 06 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... Dr. Facebook, your reliable psychiatric tormentor [ http://ur1.ca/oe03j ] | Jan 06 20:28 | |
| schestowitz | as non-Muslims won't get this additional break | Jan 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | if the right is denied, they're called islamophobs | Jan 06 20:28 |
| schestowitz | and if everyone gets this special break for 'equality' (not lunch break for food), productivity sinks | Jan 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | so no matter what you do, you'll lose | Jan 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | that's why, Condell asserted, many just feel very apprehensive about hiring devour Muslims | Jan 06 20:29 |
| MinceR | even if only muslims get that break, productivity sinks | Jan 06 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I guess for women there's the maternity leave 'issue' | Jan 06 20:29 |
| MinceR | people should be apprehensive about hiring any devout people | Jan 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | which introduces similar issues, with paternity leave, which either doesn't exist or is considerable shorter | Jan 06 20:30 |
| MinceR | religion breaks the mind | Jan 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | and it doesn't include the productivity issues pre-natal, let alone post-natal | Jan 06 20:30 |
| MinceR | religion poisons everything | Jan 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | in this context, yes | Jan 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't think any Christians ever asked for or expected to pray at work | Jan 06 20:30 |
| schestowitz | the UK has prayer rooms in malls | Jan 06 20:31 |
| schestowitz | I see them all the time | Jan 06 20:31 |
| schestowitz | in reality, it's used almost only by Muslims | Jan 06 20:31 |
| schestowitz | but the signs emphasise it's just prayer room | Jan 06 20:31 |
| schestowitz | religion-neutral | Jan 06 20:31 |
| schestowitz | same in airports | Jan 06 20:31 |
| schestowitz | [00:16] <MinceR> i'm sick of using a system which is developed according to political agenda, not technical merit | Jan 06 20:32 |
| schestowitz | gates Foundation | Jan 06 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [23:55] <XRevan86> sebsebseb: Come to openSUSE side, we have cookies^W OBS | Jan 06 20:33 |
| schestowitz | is obs still around? | Jan 06 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Cause I never hear of it anymore | Jan 06 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Not heard of it for years... how many people actively look after it now? | Jan 06 20:33 |
| schestowitz | The only active 'community' (pseudo) thing these days is tumbleweed | Jan 06 20:34 |
| MinceR | what's OBS? | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | and this one too is.... well, tumbleweed | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | apt name | Jan 06 20:34 |
| MinceR | XRevan86 has left, btw | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE Build Service | Jan 06 20:34 |
| MinceR | ah, the custom .iso builder thing, i guess | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, right, I was scrolling up | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | They used to have SUSE Studio | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | and other things | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | lots about that in techrights, it goes way back | Jan 06 20:34 |
| schestowitz | talking about novell now is nostalgic | Jan 06 20:35 |
| schestowitz | we basically win | Jan 06 20:35 |
| schestowitz | when Novell is dead within less than 4 years of the campaign | Jan 06 20:35 |
| schestowitz | and now a lot of the patent system is under attack | Jan 06 20:35 |
| schestowitz | EPO the most affective such attack | Jan 06 20:35 |
| schestowitz | the tide is changing, even patent examiners get fed up and quit their job | Jan 06 20:36 |
| schestowitz | I managed to get Florian M to flip-flop on Apple | Jan 06 20:36 |
| schestowitz | private chats | Jan 06 20:36 |
| schestowitz | and now he's anti-patents against, as far as I can tell... | Jan 06 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has gotten weak | Jan 06 20:36 |
| schestowitz | so much so that it doesn't scare so many Linux users anymore, lots are more concerned about Apple (rightly or wrongly) | Jan 06 20:37 |
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| cubexyz | Microsoft doesn't scare me, but I still keep tabs on them | Jan 06 21:30 |
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| cubexyz | actually I'm seeing quite a lot of windows 10 references in the logs | Jan 07 02:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I find it interesting that firefox OS has appeared on Panasonic TVs | Jan 07 02:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684965451634446337 | Jan 07 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #XRDP not updated in the last two years? that doesn't bode well... https://t.co/gcxHd9yHKh cc/@lproven @schestowitz | Jan 07 03:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/antiLarrysZiams/status/684971648907345921 | Jan 07 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@antiLarrysZiams: @Cargill @QuiBirdie @schestowitz what started the rumour? | Jan 07 03:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SilverCensus/status/684973305305165825 | Jan 07 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SilverCensus: @schestowitz Governor Declares Emergency Over Los Angeles Gas Leak https://t.co/e7tnIgljci https://t.co/vT0qjmEcBW | Jan 07 03:01 | |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: what percent? | Jan 07 03:06 |
| schestowitz | Florian is retweeting Rush Limbaugh | Jan 07 03:12 |
| schestowitz | and now Donald Rump!!!! | Jan 07 03:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684942083208122369 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684992751994273792 | Jan 07 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @h_weid at least Mr. Trump says "migrants". By saying "refugees", you already misrepresent what the vast majority of them are. | Jan 07 03:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @h_weid just get the stats, which the minister of the interior published. How can someone be a refugee coming from a country like Morroco? | Jan 07 03:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684999465539923968 | Jan 07 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @h_weid No, you're the typical low-information voter. Not "three identified people". Read this: https://t.co/gh8Cq5vMNC | Jan 07 03:13 | |
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| schestowitz | Nightmare scenario for refugees | Jan 07 03:13 |
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| msb_ | Police in Cologne, Germany have identified a few of the muslims involved in the dozens of attacks on women, including an actual rape, on New Years Eve: https://www.rt.com/news/328118-cologne-police-assaults-unprepared/ | Jan 07 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | ‘We weren’t prepared for this’: Cologne police chief speaks out after NYE mass sexual assaults — RT News | Jan 07 03:50 | |
| schestowitz | more than dozens, I heard. | Jan 07 03:53 |
| schestowitz | Based on what the chief of police said (not that I trust police version of stories), about a thousand men created a corridor | Jan 07 03:53 |
| schestowitz | and one woman got gropes like 100 times | Jan 07 03:53 |
| schestowitz | one lost her knickers in the process | Jan 07 03:54 |
| schestowitz | one raped, literally | Jan 07 03:54 |
| schestowitz | even women with their husbands and children present | Jan 07 03:54 |
| schestowitz | msb_: read http://www.examiner.com/article/germany-mayor-blames-victims-for-sex-attack-by-1-000-muslims-media-censorship | Jan 07 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.examiner.com | German mayor blames victims for sex attacks by 1,000 Muslims: Media coverup | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/oe14h ] | Jan 07 03:54 | |
| schestowitz | this is similar/closest to what I heard of the story | Jan 07 03:54 |
| schestowitz | and their was allegedly a similar incident in another place (maybe train station) in Germany | Jan 07 03:55 |
| schestowitz | might be some new kind of way to scare the local population, using sexual violent directed at women | Jan 07 03:55 |
| msb_ | Yes, I've also seen such reports from Scandinavian countries. | Jan 07 03:59 |
| msb_ | They could be doing it to scare and dominate the population, but the article says, "Under sharia law, it's OK to rape any non-Muslim woman because they are "infidels."" | Jan 07 04:03 |
| schestowitz | is this true? | Jan 07 04:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's true about Sharia | Jan 07 04:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe something in Koran helps justify it in retrospect, but I think it's false to attribute this to Sharia, or else I'd have heard something about it | Jan 07 04:05 |
| msb_ | Unless the media are censoring what they tell us about Islam, out of "political correctness". | Jan 07 04:06 |
| msb_ | Many moslems certainly feel it's OK to _murder_ women who have sex outside of marriage. That's called "honor killing", and it's been going on for many years. | Jan 07 04:08 |
| msb_ | Some of them cut women's/girl's clitorises off, so they will be faithful in marriage. | Jan 07 04:10 |
| msb_ | Forcing women to wear black burkhas covering their entire head and body in the hot desert sun, and not allowing them to drive cars or go to university, is done throughout some entire Moslem nations, like Saudi Arabia, | Jan 07 04:12 |
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| msb_ | If one man showed up believing that he had to bow down and worship a nonexistent "god" six times a day, and believing that everyone should do it, and had the aforementioned ideas about women, he would be diagnosed as a dangerous schizophrenic psychopath, and would be locked up where he couldn't hurt anyone, But if billions of people have these delusions and compulsions, it's called "a religion" and considered beyond criticism. | Jan 07 04:18 |
| cubexyz | not just Africa either | Jan 07 04:21 |
| cubexyz | FGM occurred in Europe and the United States in the 19th century | Jan 07 04:21 |
| cubexyz | read up on Isaac Baker Brown | Jan 07 04:22 |
| cubexyz | maybe in 2100 people will look back to now and talk about how crappy it was | Jan 07 04:24 |
| msb_ | There was a documentary on recently about a group of people (Yezidis?) who were overrun by ISIL and enslaved. All were ordered to become Sunni moslems or be killed. The women were sold to various men and forced to marry them (sex outside of marriage being illegal in Islam). The men then raped them until they got tired of them, divorced them, and sold them to another man, This was repeated 50 times for some women. | Jan 07 04:25 |
| cubexyz | yes, I think I saw that on Frontline | Jan 07 04:26 |
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| msb_ | Isaac Baker Brown was a prominent 19th-century English gynaecologist and obstetrical surgeon. He was a specialist in the diseases of women and advocated certain surgical procedures, including clitoridectomies, as cures for epilepsy and hysteria. Wikipedia | Jan 07 04:27 |
| cubexyz | yes, Yezidis were persecuted by Sunni Muslims | Jan 07 04:29 |
| cubexyz | so ISIS tries to "purify" Iraq of non-Islamic influences like Yezidis | Jan 07 04:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/685025270651338752 | Jan 07 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/70hMI21EEH | Jan 07 04:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ForbesTech: Microsoft's has inadvertently revealed 6 ways Windows 10 spies on its users https://t.co/9dOHIyzEkZ https://t.co/WgmMmjfRFz | Jan 07 04:31 | |
| cubexyz | this just shows the influence of microsoft, I'm sorry to say | Jan 07 04:33 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft is able to cram windows 10 onto a lot of computers, even though people don't even like it | Jan 07 04:34 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Jan 07 04:35 |
| cubexyz | I'd go as far to say that most people don't have good understanding of their operating system choices | Jan 07 04:36 |
| cubexyz | in the 70s and 80s it was a lot different | Jan 07 04:37 |
| cubexyz | one could encounter several different OSes in a short period of time | Jan 07 04:37 |
| cubexyz | the absolute worse was when I learned about blogs about "how to get people off windows 7/8" | Jan 07 04:40 |
| cubexyz | meanging getting them on windows 10 | Jan 07 04:40 |
| msb_ | I think most people with computers don't even know they _have_ an operating system | Jan 07 04:41 |
| msb_ | They buy a computer, and operate it by rote procedures without knowing anything about the actual internal results of their actions. | Jan 07 04:43 |
| msb_ | People have been programmed not to think or question (in religion and schools), so they go through life not knowing WTF they're doing. | Jan 07 04:45 |
| msb_ | Instead of thinking and knowledge they have habits and "opinions". | Jan 07 04:46 |
| cubexyz | well rote learning isn't all bad, you have to start somewhere | Jan 07 04:46 |
| cubexyz | but definitely as an adult you should be using conceptual learning | Jan 07 04:47 |
| cubexyz | I mean, I think rote learning of windows is definitely bad | Jan 07 04:48 |
| cubexyz | somehow over the years learning computers has morphed into learning windows | Jan 07 04:48 |
| msb_ | I disagree. If children don't learn about concepts and some critical thinking, by the time they're adults it's much too late. | Jan 07 04:48 |
| cubexyz | not sure what schools are doing these days | Jan 07 04:51 |
| cubexyz | I sure didn't think it was too good in high school :) | Jan 07 04:51 |
| msb_ | I had 3 or 4 good teachers in my 12 years of public school. The rest were robots who hated kids. I had a science teacher who let me play with an electrical experiment kit. He had a phase-contrast microscope and showed us an amoeba in it -- amazing! He was he best. | Jan 07 04:56 |
| cubexyz | I know U of Waterloo does a fair bit of Android development | Jan 07 04:56 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I had phase contrast microscopes in high school | Jan 07 04:57 |
| msb_ | It was just that one teacher who had one. I don't think he let anybody use it. | Jan 07 05:00 |
| cubexyz | there's a native american (I think, I must check this more) that uses base 8 for counting | Jan 07 05:04 |
| cubexyz | they count the spaces between their fingers :) | Jan 07 05:04 |
| cubexyz | Yuki language and Pamean languages | Jan 07 05:05 |
| msb_ | Looks like they cost $3-4,000 https://www.microscopeworld.com/c-426-phase-contrast-microscopes.aspx | Jan 07 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopeworld.com | Phase Contrast Microscopes - Microscope World | Jan 07 05:05 | |
| cubexyz | ok, no wonder he didn't let anyone touch it then | Jan 07 05:05 |
| msb_ | Let the objective hit the cover-slip and you're out the price of a good used car. | Jan 07 05:08 |
| cubexyz | can't they build one that's a bit safer? | Jan 07 05:09 |
| msb_ | The objective lens is where the magic happens. It has lots of precision components. | Jan 07 05:09 |
| msb_ | Just google. I mostly remember that amoeba! | Jan 07 05:10 |
| msb_ | You can make a dark-field microscope by just putting a disk of black paper (on a slide) underneath the condenser. Not as good as phase contrast, but you can see tiny particles, organelles in paramecia and amoebas, etc. Works on any cheap microscope. | Jan 07 05:14 |
| msb_ | Some alternative-medicine doctors find all sorts of things in patients' blood using dark-field. | Jan 07 05:18 |
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| cubexyz | like what? | Jan 07 05:18 |
| msb_ | Tiny bacteria, too small to see in bright-field. | Jan 07 05:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjan01/dwphase.html There is formal documentation to take a normal Microscope and make it Phase Contrast. | Jan 07 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopy-uk.org.uk | Making a condenser annular ring for a phase contrast objective | Jan 07 05:19 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: really for how lack of complexity phase contrast is I have never under stood how Microscope makers get away with changing such super high prices for it. | Jan 07 05:20 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: That article explains how to make a condenser for a phase-contrast microscope, but you still need the objective, which is what costs. | Jan 07 05:22 |
| schestowitz | ' Since the question I posed yesterday seems to have got lost in the ether, I will ask again. Is there any mention of the London Agreement in the new law removing the requirement for translations of granted EP patents? " | Jan 07 05:22 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.micromagus.net/microscopes/diyphase.html Really not you are just going back to the 1963 documentaiton on how todo phase-contrast. A lot of cheaper microscopes contain the right tech for objective just lack the plates. | Jan 07 05:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/685045385174380544 | Jan 07 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ACROPOLITESSE: Cologne le déni de réalité https://t.co/Mr4eZSfgk7 | Jan 07 05:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A lot of people wilfully in denial about what happened in #germany this week https://t.co/XR4gFg4wuF | Jan 07 05:32 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: the price bull crap is the fact that a Microscope with all the parts to do phase-contrast just lacking the plates is can be 1/4 the price of a Microscope that has phase-contrast plates. Not that making the plates is a complex process. | Jan 07 05:33 |
| msb_ | I'm pretty sure the amoeba guts that I saw were in color. | Jan 07 05:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjul09/fs-phase.html Not really in color replecatable using software to map the close to black and white color over a broader range. | Jan 07 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopy-uk.org.uk | Zernike’s colour phase-contrast. [ http://ur1.ca/oe1cb ] | Jan 07 05:39 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes some of the cheaper microscopes contain phase-shift to color parts but no phase-contrast rings. | Jan 07 05:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically there is color and greyscale like phase-contrast microscopes. Just like phase-shift to color and without. Phase-shift to color without phase-contrast is just a form of filter. | Jan 07 05:44 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: The photos in that last article are more like it! I've bookmarked these pages and will read up on it. | Jan 07 05:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brightfield_phase_contrast_cell_image.jpg This is a black and white compare. | Jan 07 05:48 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: most people are not aware that the are color and black and white phase-contrast. | Jan 07 05:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Ok greyscale phase-contrast. The insanity is greyscale phase-contrast microscopes can go for 4 times the price of a normal optical that can be converted to one without any major trouble. | Jan 07 05:49 |
| schestowitz | [09:12] <msb_> Forcing women to wear black burkhas covering their entire head and body in the hot desert sun, and not allowing them to drive cars or go to university, is done throughout some entire Moslem nations, like Saudi Arabia, | Jan 07 05:50 |
| schestowitz | They're allowed to go to university in Saudi Arabia | Jan 07 05:50 |
| schestowitz | My friend lectures there as a visiting professor | Jan 07 05:50 |
| schestowitz | the women cannot attend his lecture in person | Jan 07 05:50 |
| schestowitz | it's not allowed | Jan 07 05:50 |
| schestowitz | so they're in some distant room watching a video link | Jan 07 05:50 |
| schestowitz | as in, physically separated by the men who are allowed to see him in person | Jan 07 05:51 |
| schestowitz | weird, I know... | Jan 07 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Don't get me started on Saudi Barbaria's treatment of women, but they're allowed to go to university | Jan 07 05:51 |
| schestowitz | my wife's sister used to work in Saudi Arabia and she tells some stories about how many of the surgeries she worked on happened to involve people who got things 'accidentally' stuck up their arse | Jan 07 05:52 |
| schestowitz | or that people there who shave look to them a lot like women and are therefore at risk of being raped | Jan 07 05:52 |
| schestowitz | My friend was sort of stalked by a guy there, it's generally not a safe place, and UK gov. now advises Brits against visiting the country (while selling it lots of weapons and other 'defense' stuff for billions of pounds -- to the pockets of the rich only) | Jan 07 05:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: mind you there are many stupid laws around the world still on the books not enforced. Like Memphis usa a woman is not meant to drive car unless male is on road ahead of her waving a red flag. Now that could really be temping fate. | Jan 07 05:57 |
| cubexyz | surely they would repeal the dumb old laws? :) | Jan 07 05:58 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: that's very old | Jan 07 06:01 |
| schestowitz | and became a classic | Jan 07 06:01 |
| schestowitz | I guess cars used to be harder to drive and operate | Jan 07 06:02 |
| schestowitz | (not steer, although power steering too changed the 'rules') | Jan 07 06:02 |
| schestowitz | cars used to be very mechanical and more complex-to-operate machines, required some strength, not dexterity | Jan 07 06:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the fine for breaking the law is a max of 10 dollars a day. | Jan 07 06:03 |
| schestowitz | Not making excuse for these laws, just saying that today any such excuses for misogynists are no longer valid | Jan 07 06:03 |
| schestowitz | Try riding a car without power steering | Jan 07 06:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so yes the law is very old and no one has updated the fine either. | Jan 07 06:03 |
| schestowitz | and a clutch system without all the fancy improvements made over the years to leave room for errors | Jan 07 06:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Police enforce that law would mostly be wasting their time. | Jan 07 06:04 |
| schestowitz | and get fired | Jan 07 06:04 |
| schestowitz | after the PD comes under media fire | Jan 07 06:04 |
| schestowitz | Repealing the law would cause media buzz | Jan 07 06:05 |
| schestowitz | which in itself would be embarrassing | Jan 07 06:05 |
| schestowitz | !google switzerland law women vote | Jan 07 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Women's suffrage in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerland | Jan 07 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Women's suffrage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage | Jan 07 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Appenzell Innerrhoden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appenzell_Innerrhoden | Jan 07 06:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Long Way to Women's Right to Vote in Switzerland: a Chronology | http://history-switzerland.geschichte-schweiz.ch/chronology-womens-right-vote-switzerland.html | Jan 07 06:05 |
| schestowitz | I think 70s? | Jan 07 06:05 |
| schestowitz | "Women's Right to Vote" | Jan 07 06:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some to get repealed. Like witchcraft/Paganism was illegal in Queensland Australia until 2001. Yet had been not enforce for 60 odd years. | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | Introduction of women's right to vote in some European / North American nations: | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | 1917 Soviet Union 1928 United Kingdom | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | 1918 Austria 1944 France | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | 1919 Germany 1945 Italy | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | 1920 USA 1971 Switzerland | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | Ah, USSR first | Jan 07 06:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 60 odd years before 2001 that is. | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | and they say Soviets were all that bad... | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | France 1944? Italy the following year? | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | Germany post WW1 | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | other nations post WW2 | Jan 07 06:06 |
| schestowitz | Austria before Germany | Jan 07 06:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: when I say illegal witchcraft/Paganism the charge was equal to murder if convicted being 15 years in jail. | Jan 07 06:07 |
| schestowitz | why? | Jan 07 06:07 |
| schestowitz | Aboriginals or something? | Jan 07 06:07 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: it was just a stupid law that got past. | Jan 07 06:07 |
| schestowitz | What's the threat associated with paganism? We still do their winter festival (xmas) | Jan 07 06:07 |
| cubexyz | no idea :) | Jan 07 06:08 |
| schestowitz | " A majority of Switzerland's men say no in a national referendum on women's right to vote on February, 1st: 654,939 (67%) no vs. 323,727 (31%) yes. " | Jan 07 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Probably men's rule, for men... | Jan 07 06:08 |
| oiaohm | It was a case that for 3 years most of the people in parlment were all chrisian rellgionus nuts. | Jan 07 06:08 |
| schestowitz | If women cannot vote, who would be able to vote for their right to vote? :-) | Jan 07 06:08 |
| oiaohm | So they past a anti witchcraft/paganism law. | Jan 07 06:08 |
| oiaohm | Then it sat on the books for 60 odd years never enforced. | Jan 07 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Saudi still executes witches | Jan 07 06:09 |
| cubexyz | what about All Hallow's Eve? Was that pagan too? | Jan 07 06:09 |
| schestowitz | well, 'witches' (women who they deem worthy of killing) | Jan 07 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Romanians largely believe in witchcraft crap | Jan 07 06:09 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah witch burning | Jan 07 06:09 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, but lower profile holiday | Jan 07 06:09 |
| schestowitz | apparently, the church we occasionally visit (Catholic) doesn't like that holiday | Jan 07 06:10 |
| schestowitz | only xmas | Jan 07 06:10 |
| schestowitz | as long as they put together their nativity scene and pretend it was always about baby jeeezus | Jan 07 06:10 |
| schestowitz | and they even call it Christ-Mass | Jan 07 06:10 |
| schestowitz | so maybe Halloween would just need some Jesus-theme rebrand for the Church to adopt | Jan 07 06:11 |
| schestowitz | !google saudi beheads witches | Jan 07 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Saudi woman beheaded for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - CNN.com | http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/ | Jan 07 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Saudi man executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18503550 | Jan 07 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Public executions in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Saudi_Arabia | Jan 07 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Will Saudi Arabia Execute Guest Workers for 'Witchcraft'? - The Daily ... | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/29/indonesia-workers-in-saudi-arabia-are-on-trial-for-witchcraft-some-facing-the-death-penalty.html | Jan 07 06:11 |
| schestowitz | even man | Jan 07 06:11 |
| schestowitz | male witch? | Jan 07 06:11 |
| schestowitz | guest workers too.... | Jan 07 06:11 |
| cubexyz | warlock I think they were called | Jan 07 06:11 |
| schestowitz | for witchcraft | Jan 07 06:11 |
| schestowitz | wow, worse than I thought | Jan 07 06:11 |
| oiaohm | All Hallows Eve is a prank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints'_Day on this from the Roman Catholic Church | Jan 07 06:12 |
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| cubexyz | Hallowmas :) | Jan 07 06:14 |
| schestowitz | we went to Alton Towers this year for it | Jan 07 06:14 |
| schestowitz | it was awesome because they had special attractions for it | Jan 07 06:15 |
| schestowitz | and it was open till 9pm | Jan 07 06:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is something important Halloween is 24 hours before All Hallows Eve what is meant the be the night of the 1 of november. | Jan 07 06:15 |
| schestowitz | so you could do rollercoasters at night | Jan 07 06:15 |
| cubexyz | later on Hallowmas morphed into stuff-yourself-with-candymass | Jan 07 06:15 |
| schestowitz | they had stuff dressed up very professionally | Jan 07 06:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where Halloween is the 31 of october. | Jan 07 06:15 |
| schestowitz | even one with chainsaw sounding thing chasing people in the park | Jan 07 06:15 |
| schestowitz | at night | Jan 07 06:15 |
| oiaohm | I got it wrong. | Jan 07 06:15 |
| oiaohm | Halloween is a prank on All Hallows Eve | Jan 07 06:15 |
| schestowitz | some kids came knocking for candy and left a mess in the front garden | Jan 07 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people call Halloween as All Hallows Eve that is wrong. | Jan 07 06:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, we don't want to celebrate the wrong day :) | Jan 07 06:16 |
| schestowitz | the fences got skewered and all... | Jan 07 06:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: after all the paganons Roman Catholic Church had killed they are allowed some prankman ship. | Jan 07 06:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where I grew up in Australia we had no Halloween and it still something that is very rarely done in Australia. | Jan 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Guy Fawkes Night was a lot more populater anyhow. Particularly when explosives were still open to children. Yes blowing up mail boxes. | Jan 07 06:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/new-year-new-patents-act-for-spain.html?showComment=1452164594948#c3797479769466850009 | Jan 07 07:09 |
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| schestowitz | " Kant, you must be joking, right? Don't hold your breath for Spain joining the London Agreement, the unitary patent or otherwise abolishing the requirement for complete translation of EP patents. Not only is the current acting government bitterly opposed to this, but I can't see any of the parties that have won significant amount of votes in the latest general election support that either. " | Jan 07 07:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/685070833161777153 | Jan 07 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Still feel for the mono devs on the .net front! Great year however! https://t.co/YJNcZVdJbb | Jan 07 07:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion https://t.co/rpZmdXOBqY #freesw | Jan 07 07:12 | |
| schestowitz | Don't feel bad for people who serve Microsoft's interests inside Microsoft's competition (like moles) | Jan 07 07:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/685072366809006080 | Jan 07 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz Pow! ;) It was a bridge to Linux for those .net devs who were looking to access tools for a bit however. | Jan 07 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | The issue is, some mono (.NET) dev/apps were starting to replace and push out/repel POSIX-type developers and programs | Jan 07 07:17 |
| schestowitz | developers and especially #google must watch out as #xamarin #microsoft and #cyanogen Inc. try to do the same now | Jan 07 07:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion | Jan 07 07:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion | Tux Machines | Jan 07 07:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/1201506245668/queen-elizabeth-move-out-buckingham-palace | Jan 07 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us.hellomagazine.com | Queen Elizabeth may move out of Buckingham Palace for renovations [ http://ur1.ca/oe1mq ] | Jan 07 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | "an estimated $236 million" | Jan 07 07:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://events.ccc.de/2015/01/03/the-youtube-and-stream-dump-problem/ | Jan 07 07:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Does Open Source Have a Place in DevOps? | Jan 07 08:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Does Open Source Have a Place in DevOps? | Tux Machines | Jan 07 08:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mycroft Releases Key AI Component as Open | Jan 07 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mycroft Releases Key AI Component as Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 07 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remix OS is Android for the desktop, and it | Jan 07 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | works with nearly any PC | Jan 07 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Remix OS is Android for the desktop, and it works with nearly any PC | The Verge | Jan 07 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry going all-in on Android phones | Jan 07 08:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | BlackBerry going all-in on Android phones - CNET | Jan 07 08:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Samsung Z3 and the Galaxy S3: How the | Jan 07 08:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nostalgic Surrenders to the New | Jan 07 08:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | The Samsung Z3 and the Galaxy S3: How the Nostalgic Surrenders to the New - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 08:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung 2016 SUHD Smart TV to become your Smart | Jan 07 08:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung 2016 SUHD Smart TV to become your Smart Home IoT Hub - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 08:36 | |
| oiaohm | Now that remix OS move is interesting | Jan 07 08:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's First Android Wear Watch Will Be | Jan 07 08:51 |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/06/3736587/ammon-bundy-rosa-parks-hoax/ | Jan 07 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | How A Racist Troll Pretended To Be Ammon Bundy On Twitter And Punked Most Of The Media | ThinkProgress | Jan 07 09:12 | |
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| msb_ | Witch Burning by Christians: Millions of women were tortured to death by Catholics and Protestants from about 1200 onward. Motivations: some were Goddess worshippers, some were wealthy widows whose husbands had died in the many wars and someone wanted their land, some were herbal doctors and midwives who were far more successful medically than male doctors who used the latest scientific discoveries to treat patients -- lead, arsenic, | Jan 07 10:05 |
| msb_ | and mercury. | Jan 07 10:05 |
| msb_ | Some of the women were suspended over a fire from a pulley, and when they lost consciousness, the Christians pulled them up until they awakened and could feel more pain, then lowered them into the fire again. | Jan 07 10:06 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: These Christians were as monstrous as ISIL and the Saudis are today. | Jan 07 10:07 |
| schestowitz | those who write history... | Jan 07 10:08 |
| msb_ | I suspect that thousands of years ago, Jews did similar mass murders. | Jan 07 10:08 |
| schestowitz | (and omit or change the parts that don't suit their interests) | Jan 07 10:08 |
| schestowitz | msb_: fundamental difference | Jan 07 10:08 |
| msb_ | Judaeo-Christian-Islamic religion is the scourge of mankind. | Jan 07 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Islam and Catholicism tries to spread | Jan 07 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Christians used to do that by tortureing and killing people where it's harder | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Esp. the Spanish empire did this | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | But that kind of stopped | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | They still try to spread | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | but not violently | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Islam has always resorted to violent means | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | it still, in some countries, does this | Jan 07 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Judaism doesn't try to spread by conversion | Jan 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz | neither by force or without | Jan 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz | and it's very very strict when it comes to who's allowed "in the club" | Jan 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz | even then converts are threated as whatever word they make up | Jan 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz | "Goyim", "Shiksa", gentile, etc. | Jan 07 10:10 |
| schestowitz | so that's an opposite kind of problem | Jan 07 10:11 |
| msb_ | Ask the Palestinians. Israel is now spraying herbicides on what remains of Palestinian farmland. A new method of genocide. | Jan 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | all 3 religions are monotheistic and Abrahamic, but they're not identical | Jan 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | extermination in symbolism | Jan 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | plants first | Jan 07 10:11 |
| schestowitz | later "mow the grass" | Jan 07 10:11 |
| msb_ | The Israelis have tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. They've used white phosphorus and nerve gas. | Jan 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | !google us mow the grass drone children | Jan 07 10:12 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ex-Drone Operator Says Program Is 'Good At Killing People, Just ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/drones-isis-terrorism-barack-obama_564e03d6e4b00b7997f99af0 | Jan 07 10:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Life as a drone operator: 'Ever step on ants and never give it another ... | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/life-as-a-drone-pilot-creech-air-force-base-nevada | Jan 07 10:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Drone Whistleblower: Pilots Often High on Drugs; Refer To Kids As ... | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/drone-whistleblower-pilots-often-high-drugs-refer-kids-fun-size-terrorists | Jan 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | msb_: right, but so do other nations | Jan 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | which doesn't justify what Israel does | Jan 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Some nations also do this unprovoked | Jan 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | See countries even outside the M-E and Africa | Jan 07 10:12 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, you know the other examples | Jan 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Inc. those of the US, where you live.... | Jan 07 10:13 |
| msb_ | Israelis were never provoked. The Zionists had no right to Palestine in the first place. | Jan 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | US didn't defend itself from Vietnam | Jan 07 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Yet it killed millions there, in a cruel campaign of carpet-bombing that simply disregards foreigners' lives | Jan 07 10:13 |
| msb_ | Yes, the US is the most murderous nation on Earth. | Jan 07 10:13 |
| msb_ | All throughout the 20th century and now this one. | Jan 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | even later 19th centruty | Jan 07 10:14 |
| msb_ | Wealthy Americans provided 75% of Hitler's funding for WW2, in order to eliminate socialists. | Jan 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | but people don't remember this far | Jan 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | esp. now pre-WW1 | Jan 07 10:14 |
| schestowitz | A lot in the US probably don't get taught the Spanish-US War | Jan 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | Or the takeover of a lot of Mexico | Jan 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | or the "territories" (euphemism for colonies) | Jan 07 10:15 |
| msb_ | Native Americans -- tens or hundreds of millions murdered by US colonists. | Jan 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | msb_: that's a BS number | Jan 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | 75% of Hitler's funding for WW | Jan 07 10:15 |
| schestowitz | german had its own funding too, and means of production more importantly | Jan 07 10:16 |
| schestowitz | That's like claiming that Israel's IDF is funded 75% by the British | Jan 07 10:16 |
| schestowitz | or China's army being 75% funded by Russia | Jan 07 10:16 |
| schestowitz | it even sounds absurd because it's total nonsense | Jan 07 10:16 |
| schestowitz | show me the accounting | Jan 07 10:16 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Jan 07 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Jan 07 10:17 | |
| schestowitz | or rescind these weird statements that make this channel look like k00ks | Jan 07 10:17 |
| schestowitz | That doesn't show 75% of overall funding coming from people in the US | Jan 07 10:17 |
| schestowitz | You made it up or misinterpreted the numbers | Jan 07 10:17 |
| msb_ | You read all those references in 4 seconds? | Jan 07 10:17 |
| schestowitz | The US as a government/state didn't even want to be associated with the Nazis even before the war | Jan 07 10:18 |
| schestowitz | more so than Argentina with its German ties.... it officially staying sort of neutral | Jan 07 10:18 |
| msb_ | I said "wealthy americans" not the US govt. | Jan 07 10:18 |
| schestowitz | msb_: Germany's GDP before invasion of Poland was a lot greater than all the money that came from the US combined | Jan 07 10:18 |
| schestowitz | By orders of magnitude | Jan 07 10:19 |
| schestowitz | This is an absurd discussion | Jan 07 10:19 |
| msb_ | You don't want to look at the information. | Jan 07 10:19 |
| schestowitz | because even engaging in it is like debating with someone whether the Holocaust was a hoax | Jan 07 10:19 |
| schestowitz | I saw your 'information' before | Jan 07 10:19 |
| schestowitz | It's a list of donors | Jan 07 10:20 |
| msb_ | It's hundreds of pages. | Jan 07 10:20 |
| schestowitz | What you do is trying to frame it as though the US perpetrated WW2 and was the leading force with 75% of funding behind the Nazis, which is BS | Jan 07 10:20 |
| schestowitz | next thing you'll say it, Israel controls or owns the US | Jan 07 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Or Rothschields control the whole world etc. | Jan 07 10:21 |
| schestowitz | You lost the plot | Jan 07 10:21 |
| msb_ | The US did perpetrate WW2 to destroy socialism. | Jan 07 10:21 |
| schestowitz | no | Jan 07 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Take your nuttery to a non-technical forum | Jan 07 10:22 |
| schestowitz | You just sound like you need some lterature | Jan 07 10:22 |
| msb_ | Israel controls the US well enough to get US support in genociding the Palestinians plus billions of dollars every year for weapons, plus the initital fissionable material for its nuclear weapons program which now has about 400 nuclear bombs. | Jan 07 10:22 |
| msb_ | I have 5 excellent videos plus web pages proving that the US did the 9/11 attacks, but you won't watch them because you think you know it's not true. So you refuse to access the information, as you have been programmed to do by the corporate media. | Jan 07 10:25 |
| schestowitz | toss is elsewhere | Jan 07 10:26 |
| schestowitz | not only do you bring politics here but you dump batshit nuttery here | Jan 07 10:26 |
| schestowitz | and no other forum would want that | Jan 07 10:26 |
| schestowitz | so please stop | Jan 07 10:26 |
| msb_ | The global US war against socialism after WW2: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#American_Holocaust | Jan 07 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone [ http://ur1.ca/g23vd ] | Jan 07 10:26 | |
| msb_ | You are _lying_ when you call this information "nuttery". | Jan 07 10:27 |
| msb_ | You are the one who introduced what you call "politics" here today: " <schestowitz> US didn't defend itself from Vietnam" | Jan 07 10:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I would say you are nuts in a lot of ways. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Study-estimates-Israels-nuclear-weapon-count-stands-at-115-434834 Sorry the max weapon count for Israel is 150. | Jan 07 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jpost.com | Study estimates Israel's nuclear weapon count stands at 115 - Israel News - Jerusalem Post [ http://ur1.ca/oe264 ] | Jan 07 10:32 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: and 150 is at the outside. 400 weapons is just not possible with the supplies Israel has. | Jan 07 10:33 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: You love systemd and you claim that cannabis is harmful. You are a vicious liar. | Jan 07 10:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: You make a mistake. I did not love systemd. I said it had to happen. | Jan 07 10:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: medical data exists on cannabis harmful effects. | Jan 07 10:34 |
| msb_ | Jerusalem Post underestimates the number of Israeli nukes -- big whoop. | Jan 07 10:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: other groups have performed the same study. X about of fuel only produces so much material to make nukes from. | Jan 07 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course the fact the limit is 150 that does not mean they don't have 400 non nuke dirty bombs. | Jan 07 10:36 |
| oiaohm | The reality here you are the one being a vicious liar. | Jan 07 10:37 |
| oiaohm | msb_: really 150 Nukes is still a hell of a weapon stock pile. | Jan 07 10:42 |
| msb_ | I would not say that 2015 was the year of Open Source, because the ruling psychopaths have destr0yed Linux as an alternative to MS for easy mass adoption: 1 systemd 2 UEFI 3 KDE5/Plasma 4 SJW vs Linus. | Jan 07 10:42 |
| msb_ | Facts about Israel: http://cosmicpenguin.com/IsraelInfoCensored.html | Jan 07 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Israel, Palestine, the 9/11 Attacks, "Terrorism" | Jan 07 10:43 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: the fact the number of possible weapons on that page is wrong you have to wonder how much is wrong. | Jan 07 10:45 |
| oiaohm | msb_: hydrogen bombs using the smallest core possible(ok not a good yielding weapon) is 200 weapons and that is. | Jan 07 10:45 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Your lies depend on claiming to know all of Israel's sources of uranium, which they keep very secret. | Jan 07 10:47 |
| oiaohm | No it does not. | Jan 07 10:47 |
| oiaohm | The calculation I am using depends on the size processing plant you have access to. | Jan 07 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | Israels processing plants running 24/7 can only produce so much weapon grade material. | Jan 07 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tizen/Linux/Samsung https://t.co/vbYAFbsGrG | Jan 07 10:48 |
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| msb_ | They also keep that very secret. | Jan 07 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen/Linux/Samsung | Tux Machines | Jan 07 10:48 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: its not very secret | Jan 07 10:48 |
| oiaohm | The fun fact processing plants give off signals. | Jan 07 10:49 |
| oiaohm | You cannot hide them. | Jan 07 10:49 |
| oiaohm | Of course I would not put it pass Israel the fact that they would want people to think they have a larger number of weapons then what they could have physically produced. | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | The three articles about the EPO's mistreatment of small applicants have been manually translated into Spanish by a native English speaker (links inline in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO under the respective articles). It doesn't seem safe (yet) to publish anything about politicians or complaints to the EPO's "support", as anonymisation is hard and it can compromise an ongoing process. I shall wait for the right time with these... | Jan 07 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jan 07 10:51 | |
| oiaohm | is more than possible. | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | msb_: you keep bringing nutty political views here. They're not even views, they're lies | Jan 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Please stop it, you distract the channel | Jan 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | instead of talking about tech a lot of effort it spent correcting the diarrhea you habitually spill here | Jan 07 10:53 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: About once every month or two, when people pick a fight with me. oiaohm spends hours here every other day or so pushing systemd -- the worst thing ever to happen to Open Source. But you don't mind. | Jan 07 10:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: also there is something else there is a reason why you normally would not make a hydrogen bomb with a small core as a defensive item. tritium that is key to a hydrogen bomb has to replaced about every 2 decades. So number of hydrogen bomb is limited by countries tritium production. | Jan 07 10:59 |
| oiaohm | You might not like systemd I don't 100 percent like it either. I accept that it something that had to happen. | Jan 07 11:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: explain to me why it took until systemd started getting developed for someone to make x-initrd,mount option in fstab. | Jan 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | at least systemd is on topic | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | and something may come out of it in a technical site/forum/channel | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | unlike rantings about history and politics | Jan 07 11:06 |
| msb_ | Yes, the ruination of Linux, which was mankind's hope for software and communication freedom. | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the reality is lots of issues with logging failures of like failure mounting /var directory that existed under sysvinit are fixed by the x-initrd.mount option. Also items like fdisk programs under Linux to expect somewhere writeable at times to record failures. | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Running primary fstab/fdisk in the initrd with a writeable ram file system makes so much sense it not funny. | Jan 07 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Before systemd no one bothered mapping out from start to finish how a Linux system should boot. And where everything should be performed. | Jan 07 11:10 |
| oiaohm | So like it or not systemd has had to happen. Of course systemd could require replacing with something better. | Jan 07 11:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: this is where you say I like systemd is wrong. I point out many faults in systemd. | Jan 07 11:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/685131973623418881 | Jan 07 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz When I've tried using the AMD Catalyst driver @linuxmint 17.2 system, doesn't work at all. Reverted to generic driver | Jan 07 11:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hour of Code Volunteer: Kids See No Barriers to | Jan 07 11:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hour of Code Volunteer: Kids See No Barriers to Open Source Coding | Tux Machines | Jan 07 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window | Jan 07 11:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager | Tux Machines | Jan 07 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Interesting Difference Between AMD & NVIDIA | Jan 07 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Drivers When Comparing System Usage | Jan 07 11:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | An Interesting Difference Between AMD & NVIDIA Linux Drivers When Comparing System Usage - Phoronix | Jan 07 11:37 | |
| MinceR | 163419 < oiaohm> msb_: You make a mistake. I did not love systemd. I said it had to happen. | Jan 07 11:38 |
| MinceR | and advertised it regularly | Jan 07 11:38 |
| MinceR | and attacked people for criticizing its "design" | Jan 07 11:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to be truthful exactly more people are looking at the boot design than what has been bothered about from the start of Linux to the start of systemd. | Jan 07 11:40 |
| MinceR | yay systemd | Jan 07 11:41 |
| MinceR | more people will develop init systems which will never be used due to systemd dependence | Jan 07 11:42 |
| MinceR | it's so great | Jan 07 11:42 |
| oiaohm | People developing half init systems that never get used has happened for over 30 years. | Jan 07 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Due to the fact they were not sysvinit compadible. | Jan 07 11:43 |
| oiaohm | so nothing on the dependance side has really changed. | Jan 07 11:43 |
| MinceR | sysvinit dependency affects only daemon start/stop scripts, which are easily substituted for other service managers | Jan 07 11:44 |
| MinceR | unlike the hairball of dbus APIs lendows depends on | Jan 07 11:44 |
| MinceR | in fact, bsd init/rc was used quite a lot already | Jan 07 11:45 |
| MinceR | so oiaohm is here again, advertising systemd as not being so different from sysvinit | Jan 07 11:46 |
| oiaohm | To be correct bsd init/rc does not answer how to talk cleaning to the init system from inside a bsd jail. | Jan 07 11:46 |
| oiaohm | The dbus hairball is explained by attempting to solve that problem. | Jan 07 11:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of places systemd does not change the envornment that much. | Jan 07 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Even logind being designed around dbus gives problems when you want to run users in properly isolated containers. | Jan 07 11:48 |
| MinceR | 174631 < oiaohm> To be correct bsd init/rc does not answer how to talk cleaning to the init system from inside a bsd jail. | Jan 07 11:49 |
| MinceR | most programs do not care about this | Jan 07 11:49 |
| MinceR | and the dbus hairball is addressing the problem of "not enough stuff hard-depending on redhat-controlled crap" | Jan 07 11:50 |
| oiaohm | it becomes important problem causing jails under BSD not being used as much as they could be. | Jan 07 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Systemd from the start had the idea that kdbus would replace it dbus usage. | Jan 07 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Of course that never happened. | Jan 07 11:51 |
| oiaohm | And a lot of fixed in systemd design were put as fix when kdbus works. Kinda stupid. | Jan 07 11:51 |
| MinceR | the systemd "design" is a fractal of stupidity | Jan 07 11:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd has basically started building a house by starting by building the roof in mid air. | Jan 07 11:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and wondering why you have problems. | Jan 07 11:52 |
| MinceR | i have problems because redhat is behaving like microsoft | Jan 07 11:52 |
| oiaohm | My point of view they should have started at the kernel IPC. | Jan 07 11:52 |
| oiaohm | Making a proper IPC that works across containers. | Jan 07 11:53 |
| MinceR | no, they should have started at recruiting properly trained software engineers | Jan 07 11:54 |
| MinceR | and putting them in charge | Jan 07 11:54 |
| MinceR | or they should have left the whole thing alone | Jan 07 11:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Microsoft normally starts with someone making the floor and someone making the roof with each party having different measurements then attempting to glue both sided up to each other. | Jan 07 11:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: properly trained software engineers does not fix split brain problem Microsoft suffers from. | Jan 07 11:55 |
| MinceR | microsoft too "works" with the wrong principles, the wrong goals, with clueless code monkeys at the oars and evil suits at the helm | Jan 07 11:55 |
| MinceR | it would help, though | Jan 07 11:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: serousally most of Microsoft programs are formally trained. | Jan 07 11:56 |
| MinceR | yeah, empty heads with certifications | Jan 07 11:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but management has created a split brain mine field. | Jan 07 11:56 |
| MinceR | then again, even with capable people m$ would probably only aim to destroy | Jan 07 11:56 |
| oiaohm | I still remember seeing a NT/Windows kernel developer stating that Windows can never be as fast as Linux kernel due to how much split brain microsoft has. | Jan 07 11:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes that was person with all the correct formals. | Jan 07 11:57 |
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| MinceR | what about this one? https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/microsoft-insider-on-why-microsoft-sucks-and-rocks/6907 | Jan 07 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-what.thedailywtf.com | Microsoft insider on why Microsoft sucks (and rocks) - General - What the Daily WTF? [ http://ur1.ca/oe2i6 ] | Jan 07 11:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I would not say Microsoft is clueless code monkeys. Clueless managers of Developers kinda ruines everything. | Jan 07 11:59 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's mostly evil suits and a few clueless code monkeys | Jan 07 11:59 |
| MinceR | but you can tell that their software is indefensibly bad | Jan 07 11:59 |
| MinceR | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/hyperv/netvsc_drv.c?id=3a494e710367c0a233d86bcde9853781859fc008#n784 | Jan 07 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [ http://ur1.ca/n45bs ] | Jan 07 11:59 | |
| MinceR | like this | Jan 07 11:59 |
| MinceR | and their design is also horrible, like the winblows nt kernel and other subsystems | Jan 07 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Yep fun of changing to systemd and disappering sysvinit broken hyperv drivers. | Jan 07 12:01 |
| MinceR | it doesn't only break with systemd | Jan 07 12:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: good example of how trying to use something other than sysvinit based solution with Linux can bring a huge level of strangeness out of system. | Jan 07 12:02 |
| MinceR | no, it fails even on debian 7 with sysvinit | Jan 07 12:03 |
| MinceR | because the service is not "network" there, it's "networking" | Jan 07 12:03 |
| oiaohm | That right network named something else. | Jan 07 12:03 |
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| MinceR | typical inflexible m$ "design" | Jan 07 12:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: did you notice the http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-user-space-apps/ call_usermodehelper there. | Jan 07 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibm.com | Kernel APIs, Part 1: Invoking user-space applications from the kernel [ http://ur1.ca/oe2iz ] | Jan 07 12:06 | |
| MinceR | i don't think i've looked at that page before | Jan 07 12:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the existence of call_usermodehelper is part why I see moving terminal processing out of kernel space as a big problem. | Jan 07 12:06 |
| MinceR | another part is that they're plotting to move it into systemd | Jan 07 12:07 |
| MinceR | no systemd, no terminals | Jan 07 12:07 |
| MinceR | systemd crashes? time to power-cycle. | Jan 07 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Please note call_usermodehelper means terminals don't have to be PID1. | Jan 07 12:08 |
| MinceR | it will also break old distro userland versions | Jan 07 12:09 |
| MinceR | there was supposed to be a rule against that | Jan 07 12:09 |
| oiaohm | Not unless kernel ships with it. | Jan 07 12:09 |
| MinceR | but i guess everything is permitted in the quest for forcing systemd on everybody | Jan 07 12:09 |
| oiaohm | Ops | Jan 07 12:09 |
| oiaohm | Not unelss the kernel ships without it. | Jan 07 12:09 |
| oiaohm | So at some point to obey the kernel rules the software console would have to join the kernel code base. | Jan 07 12:10 |
| MinceR | i can see the obvious "solution" there | Jan 07 12:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and you have seen how hard kernel developers block crap. | Jan 07 12:10 |
| MinceR | and it's called "ksystemd" | Jan 07 12:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, i've seen how none of them except one blocked crap | Jan 07 12:11 |
| MinceR | i can already see the talking points claiming how much faster systemd (and boot!) will be in ring 0 | Jan 07 12:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not seen any of that. | Jan 07 12:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have in fact seen other arguments. | Jan 07 12:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: running in ring 0 in Linux kernel comes with some savage teeth. | Jan 07 12:12 |
| MinceR | does poettering care? | Jan 07 12:13 |
| MinceR | does gregkh care? | Jan 07 12:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://web.yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~tosh/kml/ | Jan 07 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp | Kernel Mode Linux: Execute user processes in kernel mode | Jan 07 12:17 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how far to you think systemd would get facing talc | Jan 07 12:18 |
| MinceR | depends on how they blackmail Linus into merging it | Jan 07 12:18 |
| MinceR | or how they force distros to switch to Garrettux, where it will already be merged | Jan 07 12:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Garrettux what is that refering to. | Jan 07 12:19 |
| MinceR | matthew garrett's linux fork, obviously | Jan 07 12:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ok but most distrobutions did not do that. | Jan 07 12:21 |
| oiaohm | Debian did not. | Jan 07 12:21 |
| MinceR | they will, once systemd depends on it | Jan 07 12:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd first conferene they end up admitting forcing Distributions by making systemd depend on it does not work. | Jan 07 12:22 |
| MinceR | or once in the name of interoperability they "standardize" on yum/dnf/rpm package management | Jan 07 12:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically you are talking about something systemd developers tried and failed. It end up with maintainers applying distrobution patching to remove dependance. | Jan 07 12:23 |
| MinceR | and to reduce the work of systemd/Linux distro maintainers, they simply rebadge fedora and release it as their new distro release | Jan 07 12:23 |
| MinceR | and then fedora "upgrades" users from Linux to Garrettux | Jan 07 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Then Centos and others don't even follow. | Jan 07 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes even in the RPM camp they had rejection of that idea. | Jan 07 12:24 |
| MinceR | i've seen such interest groups try such things over and over, until they succeeded | Jan 07 12:24 |
| MinceR | does TTIP ring a bell? | Jan 07 12:24 |
| MinceR | that rejection was probably back when they cared | Jan 07 12:25 |
| MinceR | adoption of systemd shows they no longer do | Jan 07 12:25 |
| MinceR | once systemd comes with systemdnf and/or systemd-rpm and can't function without it, you'll see opposition disappear | Jan 07 12:25 |
| oiaohm | Only features in kernel space systemd was able to force to be on were normally on anyhow like cgroups. | Jan 07 12:26 |
| oiaohm | So there is strict limitation to systemd ablity to push MinceR they tried for 5 years and run into the same road blocks. | Jan 07 12:27 |
| oiaohm | So not like TTIP where they were able to keep on making small fragement process. | Jan 07 12:27 |
| MinceR | i doubt debian will resist anything from them anymore | Jan 07 12:28 |
| oiaohm | process. Progress. | Jan 07 12:28 |
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| MinceR | just like TTIP, most people got tired of resisting or forgot that the fascists didn't give up | Jan 07 12:28 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: kernel side is equally stuborn. | Jan 07 12:28 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: server deployment world is paid 24/7 to maintain them. | Jan 07 12:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so the server deployment world is the most powerful fascists of Linux world. | Jan 07 12:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: something the systemd group cannot presure past. | Jan 07 12:29 |
| MinceR | if you want to see how "stubborn" the kernel side is, see who stopped kdbus. | Jan 07 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Did you not notice to merge at first Linus sent to back and said it had to be merged with deployed Linux kernels. | Jan 07 12:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I guess you missed the level of rejection. | Jan 07 12:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: think about it if you get a feature Linux kernel mainline what is the point if no distrobution builds it. | Jan 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | think about what would happen if they got rid of Linus or blackmailed him | Jan 07 12:33 |
| MinceR | nodoby else resisted that obviously crap design built for the obviously wrong reasons | Jan 07 12:33 |
| oiaohm | Would have had the fate of a few other kernel features. | Jan 07 12:34 |
| MinceR | and the hype-V crap did make it into mainline | Jan 07 12:34 |
| oiaohm | Got into mainline and built by almost no distrobutions. | Jan 07 12:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: linus is only one of many hurdles. | Jan 07 12:34 |
| MinceR | so, is Linux now a landfill where crap design and crap code is collected? | Jan 07 12:34 |
| oiaohm | When a feature is not being used by many distrobutions you see a request appear for its removal. | Jan 07 12:35 |
| oiaohm | What normally ends in removal. | Jan 07 12:35 |
| oiaohm | If it does not end in removal support from distrobutions can disappear. | Jan 07 12:35 |
| MinceR | so if i send the output of `strings /dev/urandom` to the mailing list and ask for it to be merged, it will take a turn in mainline before being removed? | Jan 07 12:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Not how it works. | Jan 07 12:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 100 random crap is not going to pass sparse right. | Jan 07 12:38 |
| oiaohm | So there is a min quality standard. | Jan 07 12:38 |
| MinceR | unless you prefix it with /* and postfix it with */ | Jan 07 12:38 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty low standard, considering hype-V | Jan 07 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Please also note hyper-v is only in the staging section of the kernel tree meaning nothing else can be built depending on it. | Jan 07 12:39 |
| oiaohm | To make it simple to remove at some point in future. | Jan 07 12:39 |
| MinceR | is "staging" the Linux name of "trashcan"? | Jan 07 12:39 |
| oiaohm | Yes it is. | Jan 07 12:39 |
| oiaohm | Getting into staging you still have to pass having sparse inspect your code. | Jan 07 12:40 |
| MinceR | will sparse say "it's utterly braindead to hardcode stuff like this in the kernel"? | Jan 07 12:40 |
| oiaohm | To get out of staging you have to have many distrobutions maintainers sign off that its ok. | Jan 07 12:41 |
| MinceR | that shouldn't be a problem | Jan 07 12:41 |
| MinceR | redhat management controls RHELl, fedora, centos | Jan 07 12:41 |
| MinceR | debian takes their orders from redhat | Jan 07 12:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not enough. | Jan 07 12:41 |
| MinceR | ubuntu agrees with everything debian does | Jan 07 12:42 |
| oiaohm | You need signs offs from google, facebook, rackspace and others. | Jan 07 12:42 |
| MinceR | at this point they'll just claim it's enough | Jan 07 12:42 |
| MinceR | which distros do those maintain? | Jan 07 12:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: their own. | Jan 07 12:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: big server companies have their own internal private Linux OS solutions. | Jan 07 12:43 |
| oiaohm | Piss them off Linux foundation ends up without most of their funding. | Jan 07 12:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat might seam big but they are only a small once you find the true big boys. | Jan 07 12:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sparse is not smart enough to find a lot of hardcoded stupidity. | Jan 07 12:46 |
| MinceR | they're big enough to destroy gnu and unix, apparently | Jan 07 12:46 |
| MinceR | see, that's why trusting sparse to catch such idiocy is not enough | Jan 07 12:46 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Please note passing sparse and making no complier warnings only gets you to staging. | Jan 07 12:47 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: once it gets to staging the big boys look at it then decide if they will vote to keep it or vote to reject it. | Jan 07 12:48 |
| MinceR | which of the "big boys" realized systemd and kdbus are utterly destructive crap? | Jan 07 12:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: did not make it that far. | Jan 07 12:48 |
| MinceR | why, which distro are they using? | Jan 07 12:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: google amazon facebook rackspace all make there own internal distorbution named something strange. Like google search runs on a OS halfway between debian and redhat with custom packaged gluing that into 1 bit. | Jan 07 12:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with a completley custom built kernel. | Jan 07 12:51 |
| MinceR | so based on debian and redhat | Jan 07 12:51 |
| MinceR | both of those are lendows | Jan 07 12:51 |
| MinceR | shows you how much clue they have | Jan 07 12:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no those servers use a init system that is not sysvinit or systemd. | Jan 07 12:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the stuff the big boys run is highly strange stuff. | Jan 07 12:53 |
| MinceR | do they rely on YUM to make their systems impossible to update or reconfigure? | Jan 07 12:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: customised apt-get | Jan 07 12:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes apt-get able to raid YUM repositories. | Jan 07 12:54 |
| MinceR | but can it reproduce YUM bugs resulting in total brokenness? | Jan 07 12:54 |
| oiaohm | Please note I said raid. | Jan 07 12:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: reach into YUM repository and rebuild it locally as a apt style repository. | Jan 07 12:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Likely Be Delayed | Jan 07 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Will Likely Be Delayed | Tux Machines | Jan 07 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FOSS Databases https://t.co/u3kRgKP5TV | Jan 07 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Databases | Tux Machines | Jan 07 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Linux software for mission-critical functions | Jan 07 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to highly customizable Android software for | Jan 07 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | infotainment services." https://t.co/LwUH40oBDG | Jan 07 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | GPU Virtualization: The Next Step in Automotive Innovation | Linux.com | Jan 07 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Project mourns the loss of Ian Murdock | Jan 07 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160105 ) | Jan 07 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Ikey Doherty, Solus | Jan 07 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Ikey Doherty, Solus - My Linux Rig | Jan 07 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In memory of Ian #Murdock | Jan 07 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dDi0oNFUoF (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 07 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “loss of Ian Murdock is still making the | Jan 07 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | headlines” https://t.co/pu3axgLIxu | Jan 07 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | In memory of Ian Murdock - TechzimTechzim | Jan 07 14:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Debian Domination, Unstable Fedora, Simple Elementary | Jan 07 14:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/685185966840102912 | Jan 07 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: Facebook wants to kill everything that isn't Facebook. cc @schestowitz https://t.co/rs1p6JibqB | Jan 07 15:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TIME: Facebook wants to kill phone numbers forever https://t.co/TPAb0tAVLR | Jan 07 15:05 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's why it's asking people for their phone numbers (to replace) ;-) | Jan 07 15:05 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 07 15:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Longing to bin Photoshop? Rock-solid GIMP a | Jan 07 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | major leap forward https://t.co/5DOArZDIfK | Jan 07 15:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Longing to bin Photoshop? Rock-solid GIMP a major leap forward • The Register | Jan 07 15:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, | Jan 07 15:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android-based Remix OS https://t.co/aXkZN6iWWQ | Jan 07 15:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/otqlKs0DAd | Jan 07 15:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, Android-based Remix OS | Techrights | Jan 07 15:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 07 15:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/DgeweZuQSR | Jan 07 15:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 07 15:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ze5aO5fWfB | Jan 07 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 07 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/U6Eb8ORzpU | Jan 07 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 07 15:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: Kernel, Graphics https://t.co/qWi4rCi45K | Jan 07 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux: Kernel, Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 07 15:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, Android-based Remix...' | Jan 07 15:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, | Jan 07 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android-based Remix OS https://t.co/aXkZN6iWWQ | Jan 07 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (techrights.org) | Jan 07 17:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Developer Says Console OS Is | Jan 07 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stealing the Code, Warns Kickstarter Users of | Jan 07 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scam https://t.co/liWAWLqH23 | Jan 07 17:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Developer Says Console OS Is Stealing the Code, Warns Kickstarter Users of Scam | Tux Machines | Jan 07 17:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Android-x86 Developer Says Console OS Is Stealing the...' | Jan 07 17:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nextbit Robin Android M smartphone shipping to | Jan 07 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | early backers week of 16 February | Jan 07 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6JT0c1TVWO (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 07 17:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Nextbit Robin Android M smartphone shipping to early backers week of 16 February | ZDNet | Jan 07 17:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines App: Video Editor Now Available for the Samsung | Jan 07 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Z3 https://t.co/9DwW7zovKZ | Jan 07 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 07 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | App: Video Editor Now Available for the Samsung Z3 - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 17:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor Band Z1 an $80 smartwatch that | Jan 07 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | skips Android Wear: CES 2016 | Jan 07 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LTKjWh0cEG (www.cnet.com) | Jan 07 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Huawei Honor Band Z1 an $80 smartwatch that skips Android Wear video - CNET | Jan 07 17:43 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/why-didnt-hillary-clinton-negotiate-north-korea | Jan 07 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Why Didn't Hillary Clinton Negotiate With North Korea?!? | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/oe45r ] | Jan 07 18:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "There will be a number of Tizen talks" at | Jan 07 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fosdem in a few weeks. https://t.co/cTNfyJFOe4 | Jan 07 18:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen Community Dinner at FOSDEM 2016 - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 18:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rocket League will be on SteamOS & Linux before | Jan 07 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Xbox One in February | Jan 07 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Bs5etwYVTR (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 07 18:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Rocket League will be on SteamOS & Linux before the Xbox One in February | GamingOnLinux | Jan 07 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/685231091494567937 | Jan 07 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Zaurus revisited. But much better. | Jan 07 18:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bromleypopulo favourited '"There will be a number of Tizen talks"...' | Jan 07 18:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iConsole @tuxmachines Our response was posted weeks ago, | Jan 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | we weren't contacted by Softpedia: | Jan 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MWVYPoIJ87 (www.kickstarter.com) | Jan 07 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kickstarter.com | Console OS: Dual-Boot Android, Remastered for The PC by Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. — Kickstarter | Jan 07 18:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iConsole @tuxmachines We also can't seem to register to | Jan 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your site to post a comment. Perhaps you can | Jan 07 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | share the reply link too for fairness? | Jan 07 18:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Jan 07 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qlAKth10m3 (www.alpinelinux.org) | Jan 07 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.3.1 released | Alpine Linux | Jan 07 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 23 Updated Respins coming, Saying | Jan 07 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | goodbye to Fedora 22 Respins | Jan 07 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YTgchwIiyx | Jan 07 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxmodder.wordpress.com) | Jan 07 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com | Fedora 23 Updated Respins coming, Saying goodbye to Fedora 22 Respins | Linux-modder's Tech Corner | Jan 07 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Now Supports Screen Rotation On | Jan 07 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland https://t.co/YzuK1Pl4Y3 | Jan 07 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME's Mutter Now Supports Screen Rotation On Wayland - Phoronix | Jan 07 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jan 07 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1SP0FHkzCm (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jan 07 18:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux Journal | Jan 07 18:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 07 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qYvCAyga9q (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 07 18:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 18:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for | Jan 07 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | self-driving cars https://t.co/mGnTogNH84 | Jan 07 18:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for self-driving cars · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 18:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart | Jan 07 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart cars · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jan 07 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Tux Machines | Jan 07 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 07 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Tux Machines | Jan 07 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for | Jan 07 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | self-driving cars https://t.co/3aVlBPCK0t | Jan 07 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for self-driving cars | Tux Machines | Jan 07 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart | Jan 07 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | cars https://t.co/eBAIzRqJ9K | Jan 07 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart cars | Tux Machines | Jan 07 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Jan 07 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3SJ4AgydJN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Tux Machines | Jan 07 18:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3zujvx/why_linux_community_in_the_past_were_so_harsh/ | Jan 07 19:13 |
| schestowitz | "I remember back in the days using IRC on undernet servers. And got into a channel named Linux_support or something in those lines." | Jan 07 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why linux community in the past were so harsh ? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oe4h7 ] | Jan 07 19:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ztjvz/i_miss_defragmenting_my_drives/ | Jan 07 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I miss defragmenting my drives : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oe4hc ] | Jan 07 19:14 | |
| schestowitz | "It would be nice to have an ext4 defragmenting program so I could see graphically how unfragmented my drives are. Though, it would be a pretty useless program otherwise." | Jan 07 19:14 |
| cubexyz | Linux people aren't snobs :) | Jan 07 19:25 |
| cubexyz | they are johnny-come-latelys | Jan 07 19:25 |
| MinceR | we didn't decide to not be born earlier :> | Jan 07 19:26 |
| cubexyz | good grief you haven't seen anything | Jan 07 19:26 |
| cubexyz | the earlier IRC Linuxers were _punks_ | Jan 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/685256940969017345 | Jan 07 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CDSRV: #devops https://t.co/TOFGlLmVe9 | Jan 07 19:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Introducing dumb-init, an init system for Docker containers https://t.co/Q3wQXTdonU sounds like a good name for #systemd | Jan 07 19:30 | |
| cubexyz | even the original Unixers weren't snobs | Jan 07 19:30 |
| cubexyz | now the IBMers, now you're getting into snob territory | Jan 07 19:30 |
| cubexyz | but all that is dead now | Jan 07 19:31 |
| cubexyz | now I don't really miss the IBM stuff | Jan 07 19:33 |
| cubexyz | some of the PDP stuff was pretty good, of course the IBMers looked down on minis | Jan 07 19:35 |
| cubexyz | to be part of BSD and the Berkeley scene meant you were an anti-snob | Jan 07 19:36 |
| cubexyz | now were they nice and polite? no | Jan 07 19:37 |
| cubexyz | but the rudeness was an IRC thing, not really a Unix/Linux thing | Jan 07 19:37 |
| cubexyz | originally usenet and all was fairly polite | Jan 07 19:39 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Street_Cars101 followed @tuxmachines | Jan 07 19:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks...' | Jan 07 19:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks...' | Jan 07 20:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by | Jan 07 20:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source SDN code https://t.co/zhxoaiwqAZ | Jan 07 20:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 07 20:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bheron/status/685265997834653696 | Jan 07 20:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4ng | Jan 07 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by open-source SDN code • The Register | Jan 07 20:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bheron: @schestowitz Hi! :) By this I'm guessing you mean how it looks. Am I correct? If so, you're right. We do need a little more of that. | Jan 07 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bheron/status/685267888438140928 | Jan 07 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bheron: @schestowitz Currently GNUstep's API is following Cocoa. It's just the look which is outdated. | Jan 07 20:38 | |
| schestowitz | [00:30] <cubexyz> now the IBMers, now you're getting into snob territory | Jan 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | That's what I've read... | Jan 07 20:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/aGefw2nEkl | Jan 07 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 07 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by | Jan 07 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source SDN code https://t.co/tOtlQfkfPy | Jan 07 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by open-source SDN code | Tux Machines | Jan 07 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box | Jan 07 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3xvLuGR8jJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5bh | Jan 07 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT | Jan 07 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 07 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7KqgT4f2Re (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, | Jan 07 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 07 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CjsuKaqEZA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer...' | Jan 07 23:12 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, part of the rudeness of Linux people on IRC was RTFM | Jan 08 00:11 |
| cubexyz | which people were not doing | Jan 08 00:11 |
| cubexyz | so a certain percentage of people got rude | Jan 08 00:12 |
| cubexyz | but the mistake that some linux people made/make is not recognize the importance of what came before | Jan 08 00:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. the importance of Thompson and Ritchie et all | Jan 08 00:13 |
| cubexyz | in other words the importance of Unix | Jan 08 00:13 |
| cubexyz | it was the main template for a lot of things | Jan 08 00:13 |
| cubexyz | of course GNU was/is also important | Jan 08 00:14 |
| cubexyz | that's why I use both Linux and BSD | Jan 08 00:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 02:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Akonadi – still alive and rocking | Jan 08 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3c5E8aMLMt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 02:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Akonadi – still alive and rocking | Tux Machines | Jan 08 02:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes | Jan 08 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Jan 08 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lvDHdCZByG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Tux Machines | Jan 08 02:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support | Jan 08 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jkgWeqBYAJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 08 02:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers | Jan 08 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the living room https://t.co/LMeSfo5iws | Jan 08 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 02:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers the living room | Tux Machines | Jan 08 02:36 | |
| cubexyz | this should be interesting... NOS burner... from 2004 | Jan 08 02:48 |
| cubexyz | success! | Jan 08 02:50 |
| cubexyz | reuse wins again | Jan 08 02:50 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Its not just failure to recognize before. Reason why Linux stuck with sysvinit with major defects is lack of proper evaluation of solution. | Jan 08 03:08 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Its simple things systemd has a lot of people upset about its parallel fdisk. http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/bootup.7.html but most don't read this. | Jan 08 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'man7.org' ( status 0 @ http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/bootup.7.html ) | Jan 08 03:10 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note the fdisk and mounting of partitions in the initrd systemd prescribes. This solves issue of where should logging go if a core file system fails fdisk. | Jan 08 03:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android smart TVs could expose users to cyber | Jan 08 04:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | home invasion https://t.co/IGecbbNUes | Jan 08 04:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.scmagazine.com) | Jan 08 04:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Android smart TVs could expose users to cyber home invasion - SC Magazine | Jan 08 04:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands On With Freetel's Crazy Android Flip | Jan 08 04:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone https://t.co/FuaYt5w5KE (www.pcmag.com) | Jan 08 04:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com | Hands On With Freetel's Crazy Android Flip Phone | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | Jan 08 04:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Polaroid arrives at CES 2016 with not just one, | Jan 08 04:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but two Android smartphones | Jan 08 04:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/izetQDXXZV (www.digitaltrends.com) | Jan 08 04:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Polaroid Announces The Snap And Power Android Handsets | Digital Trends | Jan 08 04:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry's Chen Optimistic About Future With | Jan 08 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android https://t.co/ML2nAEBwPJ | Jan 08 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.informationweek.com) | Jan 08 04:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.informationweek.com | BlackBerry's Chen Optimistic About Future With Android - InformationWeek | Jan 08 04:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi-based home AI project open-sources | Jan 08 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | key components https://t.co/c4UTixulLz | Jan 08 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.networkworld.com) | Jan 08 04:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Raspberry Pi-based home AI project open-sources key components | Network World | Jan 08 04:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-powered smart TVs targeted by malicious | Jan 08 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | apps https://t.co/HuzrbFSGUS (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 08 04:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Android-powered smart TVs targeted by malicious apps | PCWorld | Jan 08 04:47 | |
| schestowitz | > x http://windowsitpro.com/outlook/new-outlook-chief-talks-email-clients | Jan 08 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Talking with Javier Soltero, the outsider Microsoft tapped to reinvent Outlook across platforms | Outlook content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/oe63h ] | Jan 08 04:55 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure what to even do with this link. It's NSA PRISM, but MS sites wouldn't even mention it... | Jan 08 04:55 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that outlook write up has me asking some questions. Amazon Web Services ok does not microsoft have their own data center? So why are they using Amazon? | Jan 08 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry is all about Android in 2016 | Jan 08 05:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kt6ofWUZWh (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 08 05:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | BlackBerry is all about Android in 2016 | PCWorld | Jan 08 05:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box > | Jan 08 05:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZWJiw8wLFf (freedompenguin.com) | Jan 08 05:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box - Freedom Penguin | Jan 08 05:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT | Jan 08 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 08 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M8fvdzMT1H (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 05:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 08 05:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, | Jan 08 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 08 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L4z6UXmpNh (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 05:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 08 05:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes | Jan 08 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Jan 08 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Pn6jBngVaY (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 05:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin Bieber's "Sorry" Video | Jan 08 05:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support | Jan 08 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 05:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 05:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers | Jan 08 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the living room https://t.co/20JGZaXLAN | Jan 08 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cio.com) | Jan 08 05:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers the living room | CIO | Jan 08 05:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MattRosoff/status/685370770596311041 | Jan 08 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MattRosoff: The true startup dreamers are outcasts, misfits, non-conformists. Art, not just science. | Jan 08 06:06 | |
| schestowitz | MS Matt | Jan 08 06:06 |
| schestowitz | how funny in relation to MSFT | Jan 08 06:06 |
| schestowitz | gates born rich and privileged | Jan 08 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A first look at Collabora/LibreOffice online | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (and a little bit of frustration) | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7bUYlZjUBG (www.indidea.org) | Jan 08 06:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Foundation Announces 2016 Events | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Schedule https://t.co/FNktzmaPQT | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxfoundation.org) | Jan 08 06:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon & AMDGPU DRM Drivers Get More Changes | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.5 https://t.co/19buHM917L | Jan 08 06:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Rolls Out Useful Linux Updates For TF2 & | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CS:GO https://t.co/osz4Bu6BGK | Jan 08 06:23 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @HardwareNewz favourited 'Valve Rolls Out Useful Linux Updates For TF2...' | Jan 08 06:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remember Google’s Project Tango? Now Lenovo Is | Jan 08 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Making The First Tango Smartphone | Jan 08 06:23 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for...' | Jan 08 06:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer...' | Jan 08 06:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 06:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin...' | Jan 08 06:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for...' | Jan 08 06:23 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75 | Jan 08 06:36 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin...' | Jan 08 06:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In memory of Ian #Murdock | Jan 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/dDi0oNFUoF (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @amayita “loss of Ian Murdock is still making the | Jan 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | headlines” https://t.co/pu3axgLIxu | Jan 08 07:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ostatic.com) | Jan 08 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | In memory of Ian Murdock - TechzimTechzim | Jan 08 07:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Debian Domination, Unstable Fedora, Simple Elementary | Jan 08 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Blackphone Security Woes | Jan 08 07:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blackphone Security Woes | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive | Jan 08 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 07:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/YQ6hRyupTZ | Jan 08 07:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:09 | |
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| schestowitz | > Hey, | Jan 08 07:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 07:23 |
| schestowitz | > First Happy New Year 2016! | Jan 08 07:23 |
| schestowitz | > opposing the Amazon Gift patent. | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > We got a nice phone call and email from the EPO saying we have to pay | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > for a translator, while other people with German or French would not | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > have to pay for simultaneous translations during oral proceedings. | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > I will try to forward you the mails, it was hilarious. | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > Best, | Jan 08 07:25 |
| schestowitz | Sounds great. A lot of this is FANTASTIC ammo against the UPC at this time. The EPO's management VERY much wants the UPC to pass, but we can definitely derail it. | Jan 08 07:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/BZbnGpbgxz | Jan 08 07:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Security https://t.co/NBedOix8nM | Jan 08 07:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Security | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Jan 08 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Tux Machines | Jan 08 09:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6951241 | Jan 08 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why bas #joindiaspora gotten so quiet? Troubling, as #twitter has gone rather nasty as of late, trying to be more and more like #facebook | Jan 08 12:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Over the years, a lot of interesting people have come here and said it was too quiet and then left. If they all had stayed, there would be quite of few of them here. Self fulfilling prophesy. Folks should just hang in there for a while and it will work." | Jan 08 12:55 |
| schestowitz | I know some of these people. Same thing happened to identica (Twitter substitute, D* being the FB sub) | Jan 08 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeFileSync 7.8 Has Been Released, Install In | Jan 08 13:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint Or Other Derivatives Distros | Jan 08 13:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeFileSync 7.8 Has Been Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint Or Other Derivatives Distros | Tux Machines | Jan 08 13:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV Gets Marshmallow | Jan 08 13:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Treat, New Games And More: Here's The Deal | Jan 08 13:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pSGj68GUYN (www.techtimes.com) | Jan 08 13:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV Gets Marshmallow Treat, New Games And More: Here's The Deal [Video] : CES 2016 : Tech Times | Jan 08 13:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Jan 08 13:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gUIEdJg9tb (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 08 13:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | ZDNet | Jan 08 13:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive | Jan 08 13:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 13:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ymv8kdGHFi (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 13:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685535727573073920 | Jan 08 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz KDE is a nice achievement in the way of graphical achievements, but it's a steaming turd when you look at size and bloat | Jan 08 13:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685536166003646464 | Jan 08 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @TheRegister that article is absolute shite. Read the comment by jillesvangurp for something more reasonable | Jan 08 14:00 | |
| schestowitz | Note that I didn't say it was a good article. Microsoft Gavin's spin. | Jan 08 14:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685536505704497152 | Jan 08 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz how do you keep track of all the research you do? Databases? Applications? Sticky notes? | Jan 08 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | Refined workflow over the past decade | Jan 08 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review | Jan 08 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9FFj5nyXot (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 08 14:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel | Jan 08 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source https://t.co/jbUoBAaw06 | Jan 08 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review - Phoronix | Jan 08 14:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com | A Smackerel of Opinion: FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel source | Jan 08 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/tod1r6EUFt | Jan 08 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 08 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685537000682737664 https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685537248268259328 | Jan 08 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz I tried to contribute to KDE once. Didn't know where to start, hundreds of intermingled libs and apps. Sticking to tiling wm | Jan 08 14:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @TheRegister yeah, I was just pointing that out for the benefit of others :) | Jan 08 14:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/685537427264417792 | Jan 08 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Names Names...? cc: @Snowden @HelpSnowden | Jan 08 14:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685539740729225216 | Jan 08 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz have you tried @Docear_org at all? That's come in quite handy for a few projects and assignments | Jan 08 14:18 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure if it's suited for my personal workflow and routines, might give it a go this weekend | Jan 08 14:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gregsfortytwo/status/685543251080835072 | Jan 08 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gregsfortytwo: @schestowitz @ircolle that’s why Marshals exist, to enforce court rulings? Of all the system’s sins, shutting down infringing show ain’t one | Jan 08 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | Was a judge there to rule on the case? Of do Marshals just raid a show and decide to shoot first, ask question later? #ces #patents | Jan 08 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Was a judge there to rule on the case? Was there already a case with court orders? | Jan 08 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Or do Marshals just raid a show and decide to shoot first, ask question later? #ces #patents | Jan 08 14:30 |
| schestowitz | *questions | Jan 08 14:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review | Tux Machines | Jan 08 14:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How students can get started contributing to | Jan 08 14:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source software https://t.co/ZnL1E16Gzs | Jan 08 14:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How students can get started contributing to open source software | Tux Machines | Jan 08 14:32 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Get the Option of Updating Firmware Directly from the OS | Jan 08 15:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New details begin to emerge around Linux Mint | Jan 08 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 18 https://t.co/oBW3oR1OKR (www.neowin.net) | Jan 08 15:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly | Jan 08 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reduces Memory Usage on Linux | Jan 08 15:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly Reduces Memory Usage on Linux | Jan 08 15:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Goodbye, #Debian 8.1 https://t.co/Ri8i6PuV3J | Jan 08 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Goodbye, Debian 8.1 | Jan 08 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule and Features | Jan 08 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Revealed https://t.co/9zW5knVtqK | Jan 08 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Release Schedule and Features Revealed | Jan 08 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs $15, | Jan 08 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raises 30 Times the Money Needed | Jan 08 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs $15, Raises 30 Times the Money Needed | Jan 08 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Augmented reality helmet moves to Skylake, | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Augmented reality helmet moves to Skylake, RealSense, Linux · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 08 15:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sorry BlackBerry 10 fans: 2016 is the year of | Jan 08 15:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android when it comes to new phones | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Sorry BlackBerry 10 fans: 2016 is the year of Android when it comes to new phones | ZDNet | Jan 08 15:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @imdoneIO favourited 'FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel...' | Jan 08 15:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better | Jan 08 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arm, Hands and Glove Models | Jan 08 15:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better Arm, Hands and Glove Models | Jan 08 15:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Spotted on a Raspberry Pi 2-Powered | Jan 08 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4K DIY Magic Mirror https://t.co/tGlbwOK8oY | Jan 08 15:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Spotted on a Raspberry Pi 2-Powered 4K DIY Magic Mirror | Jan 08 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | > That's cool helping out as sysadmin. I would love to do that since | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > that's how you relieve organizations that need the help without paying | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > third party services. I do help people migrating to Linux and OS. I | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > think the best thing is giving people choice not to be ripped off by big | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > corporations. | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > That's one of the reasons I help you out. It pisses me off how these big | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > corportions backed by some governments have give their backs to the | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > people they supposed to serve, take control of judiciary systems and the | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > apparatus of the state to enrich themselves more, meanwhile the regular | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > people like us, gets srewed up! | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > OK buddy keep up the good work! | Jan 08 15:36 |
| schestowitz | In daily links in Techrights I cover many news bits that relate to it. I'm hoping that not only FOSS and patents will be the focus we have. It does seem to have a seriously noticeable effect on decision makers these days. | Jan 08 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical needs a firm direction for Ubuntu | Jan 08 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zkSTGMiITI (www.chris-shaw.com) | Jan 08 15:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update...' | Jan 08 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly Reduces...' | Jan 08 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs...' | Jan 08 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better Arm, Hands and...' | Jan 08 15:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android | Jan 08 17:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android Devices, More From CES | Techrights | Jan 08 17:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/eAYuUEZq82 | Jan 08 17:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 08 17:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 08 17:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/sOhGSlf80z | Jan 08 17:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Kernel | Tux Machines | Jan 08 17:07 | |
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| schestowitz | >>>>> I'm slow to read these days. This just sank in from the ZDNet: | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> 'described as the "enhanced distribution of R from Microsoft."' | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> That looks like the same EEE that m$ tried with Java. As much as I have | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> respected his writing in the past, it puts paid to SJVN's assertion in | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> his articles that M$ is somehow changed or cooperating with FOSS. I bet | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> dollars to donuts that the "enhanced" version is functionally | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> proprietary. I also expect that the same M$ attitudes are present and | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> that the goal is for those trying R for the first time, but using M$ | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> Windows, are in for a subpar experience on purpose to turn them off R. | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> R was never FOSS, just FOSSy. I knew this a long time ago. | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> Microsoft's move is related to a buyout which I wrote about before. | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> Don't worry, they're losing all in all... I'm focusing on patents angles | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> right now. | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> Yes. From my perspective promoting FOSS at this point has long since | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> moved beyond, or away from, only dealing with licensing and enlightening | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> developers and users about them. It now means looking 2 to 3 years | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> ahead all the time at what is happening in patent, patent law and | Jan 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> international treaties. EPU and TPP are two examples. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> But like I've said before, it's not over until the furniture is | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> auctioned off and the softers past and present spend a stint in jail. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > The same could be said about Novell and SUSE, but I'm not chasing them | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > to their oblivion or coffin (metaphorically speaking) because the threat | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > they now pose isn't proportional to the amount of coverage in 2006-2009. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > Novell and SUSE are gone but they did not leave millions of people | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > behind smitten with a cult style devotion. Here M$ even has a trade | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > association of its own, which functions partially as a union. I wish I | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > had the details for that. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Some people are still technically tied to Novell's software. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > But in general M$ is far stronger here than they've been in the past. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > As far as I know, all aspects of the public sector are now privatized | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > and in most cases what passes for IT has been outsourced, thus losing | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > all accountability and control. M$ has consolidated its grip here | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > substantially, using the "for security" excuse. In some cases, staff | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > were temporarily allowed to bring their own devices. Those that got | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > work done did just that, with most going to Macintosh and only a few to | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > GNU/Linux. Now those few institutions that allowed own devices are | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > banning them and further forcing not just an M$-only attempt at | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > infrastructure, but also an M$-only set of user applications. However, | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > I have only a sample size of 6 right now. Though I expect to find out | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > about two more sometime fairly soon, probably by summer. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Some places are locked into Microsoft 'cloud', but if the applications are to be accessed over the Web, then a browser would do, even on Mac/GNU/Linux. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > The loss of accountability and control through outsourcing is made worse | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > by many politicians and even the institutions themselves being invested | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > in the publicly traded companies that now ostensibly provide IT | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > services. Same for facilities rental. I don't know how profitable they | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > are or if they even could ever be profitable for anyone that did not get | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > on the IPO. However, I do see that people believe strongly in the sunk | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > cost fallacy and will support the parasitic outsourcing to the severe | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > detriment of the host institution. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > All that is a long way of saying that in addition to M$ being in an | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > exceedingly strong position on the ground here I see M$ gathering and | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > regrouping here for a really nasty push. What they look to be planning | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > for R seems part of it. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I think that R will survive this. Even if it doesn't, R won't be a huge loss. It was never all that focused on FOSS anyway. | Jan 08 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android | Jan 08 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Devices, More From CES https://t.co/NAL8r2e3FJ | Jan 08 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Jan 08 23:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android Devices, More From CES | Techrights | Jan 08 23:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands on: Casio WSD-F10 Android Wear smartwatch | Jan 08 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YtQlMKCTYc (www.digitaltrends.com) | Jan 08 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Casio WSD F10 Android Wear Smartwatch Hands On | Digital Trends | Jan 08 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top Android performance problems faced by app | Jan 08 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | developers https://t.co/FLa25XSNm4 | Jan 08 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jan 08 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Top Android performance problems faced by app developers - Android Authority | Jan 08 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Zacks Research has given a top Growth Style | Jan 08 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | score to Red Hat, Inc." https://t.co/vnQ25iefvx | Jan 08 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (theenterpriseleader.com) | Jan 08 23:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theenterpriseleader.com | Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) Picked As Growth Company | Jan 08 23:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Poploauetr/status/685686978495549440 | Jan 08 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Poploauetr: @schestowitz good kick all the browns and black out of this country!!! make america great agin! Trump 2016 this is what we need | Jan 08 23:59 | |
| schestowitz | Fox Downplays Sexual Assault, Until It Fits Their Anti-Muslim Refugee Agenda | Jan 09 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Rump loons | Jan 09 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Teases Voice Calls on Android Powered | Jan 09 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Huawei Watch https://t.co/A9zJATRcLV | Jan 09 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidheadlines.com) | Jan 09 00:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Huawei Teases Voice Calls on Android Powered Huawei Watch | Androidheadlines.com | Jan 09 00:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Holy Potatoes! A Weapon Shop?! Tested on Linux | Jan 09 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with some thoughts on the gameplay | Jan 09 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zqTH3EVs0f (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 09 00:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Holy Potatoes! A Weapon Shop?! Tested on Linux with some thoughts on the gameplay | GamingOnLinux | Jan 09 00:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Is Betting On Its Open Source IoT | Jan 09 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Computer Chirimen And It Makes Perfect Sense | Jan 09 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PKW8uxnW4d (fossbytes.com) | Jan 09 00:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Mozilla Making Its Own Open Source IoT Computer Called Chirimen | Jan 09 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685689887987597312 | Jan 09 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: This is exciting! https://t.co/ZMfXUFEL3I | Jan 09 00:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Mozilla Is Betting On Its Open Source IoT Computer #Chirimen And It Makes Perfect Sense https://t.co/WjFH8NuETA #linux | Jan 09 00:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/685690179630280704 | Jan 09 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 Oracle 12 is such a bloated architecture | Jan 09 00:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Announcing the general availability of | Jan 09 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 4 | Jan 09 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvxga1UY1J (blogs.oracle.com) | Jan 09 00:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.oracle.com | Announcing the general availability of Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 4 (Oracle's Linux Blog) | Jan 09 00:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Indeed Be Delayed, Plus Other | Jan 09 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Changes Approved https://t.co/EE0TvG7toW | Jan 09 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 09 00:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Will Indeed Be Delayed, Plus Other Changes Approved - Phoronix | Jan 09 00:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GTK+ 3.19.6 Released With CSS Changes & Wayland | Jan 09 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements https://t.co/sfsSbscrIe | Jan 09 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 09 00:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GTK+ 3.19.6 Released With CSS Changes & Wayland Improvements - Phoronix | Jan 09 00:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator | Jan 09 00:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Network with VPN Editor Fixes, More | Jan 09 00:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/h1q9ys81lI (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 00:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator Network with VPN Editor Fixes, More | Jan 09 00:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) | Jan 09 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wallpaper Contest Calls All Artists | Jan 09 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1DQUBjFsRT (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 00:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Wallpaper Contest Calls All Artists | Jan 09 00:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video https://t.co/HXs6lBlAAl (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 09 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe9p6 | Jan 09 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 09 00:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited '$149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps...' | Jan 09 00:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited '$149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps...' | Jan 09 00:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PromoXperts/status/685694221538336772 | Jan 09 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PromoXperts: @schestowitz government killed him | Jan 09 00:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/685695020326875136 | Jan 09 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @themotleyfool Gates hasn't been an entrepreneur for a long long time, more like evil monopolist if you ask me cc/@schestowitz | Jan 09 00:31 | |
| cubexyz | kind of evil right from the start actually | Jan 09 00:32 |
| cubexyz | 1) dumpster diving for old BASIC | Jan 09 00:36 |
| cubexyz | 2) stealing PDP-10 computer time from CCC | Jan 09 00:36 |
| cubexyz | oh and here's a new one: lying about being a graduate student at University of Washington | Jan 09 00:39 |
| cubexyz | just learned about that one recently | Jan 09 00:40 |
| cubexyz | why? to get access to a Xerox computer! | Jan 09 00:40 |
| cubexyz | ok, is Gates worse than Rockefeller? probably not | Jan 09 00:48 |
| cubexyz | updated: | Jan 09 00:49 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt | Jan 09 00:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium | Jan 09 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wisVA2pkdf (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 00:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 00:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam | Jan 09 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Controller Improvements, Linux Fixes | Jan 09 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z4GfWAWXm9 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe9se | Jan 09 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam Controller Improvements, Linux Fixes | Jan 09 00:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE and Open Source https://t.co/vRjxJbbx0n | Jan 09 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (stanfordlin.wordpress.com) "contributing to a | Jan 09 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | project that is devoted to helping" | Jan 09 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stanfordlin.wordpress.com | KDE and Open Source | Stanford Lin | Jan 09 00:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe9sf | Jan 09 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Counter-Strike: Global Offensive updated, now | Jan 09 01:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with nicer sound options for Linux | Jan 09 01:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/l0TZuhjs83 (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 09 01:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe9tm | Jan 09 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Counter-Strike: Global Offensive updated, now with nicer sound options for Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 09 01:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952980 | Jan 09 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Company from #canada helps regime that shoots down (with machine guns) protesters http://motherboard.vice.com/read/canadian-company-netsweeper-to-censor-bahrains-internet-for-12m | Jan 09 01:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com | Canadian Company Netsweeper to Censor Bahrain’s Internet for $1.2M | Motherboard | Jan 09 01:18 | |
| schestowitz | "With US designed equipment that was made in China. What a big happy family the industry is." | Jan 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz | parerntal control they call it.. it's "for the children" | Jan 09 01:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952942 | Jan 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz | wtf? How about they take care of things closer to their core mission, like credit card fraud, stock fraud, etc. Nope. | Jan 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they want another toxic thing to hang around people’s necks, “This guy kicks his puppy!” | Jan 09 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FBI to Track Animal Abuse Like Homicide—But Which Animals? http://commondreams.org/news/2016/01/08/fbi-track-animal-abuse-homicide-which-animals farms excluded... | Jan 09 01:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> commondreams.org | FBI to Track Animal Abuse Like Homicide—But Which Animals? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/oe9up ] | Jan 09 01:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz | FBI also goes after Dotcom over copyrights... and after Wikileaks in Iceland | Jan 09 01:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952524 | Jan 09 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft is forcing spyware into people's PCs unless they're savvy enough to stop it http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/08/windows_10_upgrade_blocker/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jan 09 01:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Confirmed: How to stop Windows 10 forcing itself onto PCs – your essential guide • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oe9ur ] | Jan 09 01:19 | |
| schestowitz | "that and uefi" | Jan 09 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Jan 09 01:19 | |
| cubexyz | people aren't savvy | Jan 09 01:21 |
| cubexyz | case in point... PVRs that are tied to Cable/Satellite companies | Jan 09 01:21 |
| cubexyz | all video is encrypted...people buy them anyway | Jan 09 01:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Lycanious favourited 'Counter-Strike: Global Offensive updated, now with nicer sound...' | Jan 09 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video https://t.co/k6KPkXywUn | Jan 09 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video | Tux Machines | Jan 09 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Ovkn2Cy8RZ | Jan 09 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 09 01:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GTK+ 3.19.6 https://t.co/6z6vokI66D | Jan 09 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GTK+ 3.19.6 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 04:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle Linux, DBMS https://t.co/1CY9DTLkWR | Jan 09 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle Linux, DBMS | Tux Machines | Jan 09 04:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UGet 2.0.4 Released, One Of The Lightest | Jan 09 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download Managers For Linux | Jan 09 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/COrCR48x9x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UGet 2.0.4 Released, One Of The Lightest Download Managers For Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 09 04:21 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: is that a usa thing with the PVR from Cable/Satellite companies. Australian Sat/cable tv provided PVR are not sold but rented to you as long as keep subscribtion. So end subscription the device has to go back. | Jan 09 04:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EdSnowdenNews/status/685772980572430336 | Jan 09 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EdSnowdenNews: Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - ... https://t.co/3ZeYrAAgUD via @schestowitz https://t.co/OJ3vD7Tdq4 | Jan 09 05:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> gettopical.com | Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - NY Daily News | Jan 09 05:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EdSnowdenNews: Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - ... https://t.co/3ZeYrAAgUD via @schestowitz https://t.co/OJ3vD7Tdq4 | Jan 09 05:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile | Jan 09 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Platform https://t.co/Vh012dfMXZ | Jan 09 06:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile Platform | Tux Machines | Jan 09 06:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile | Jan 09 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Platform https://t.co/ECnmjCKhNt | Jan 09 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.knowyourmobile.com) | Jan 09 06:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knowyourmobile.com | Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile Platform: Prices, Specifications, Reviews | Know Your Mobile | Jan 09 06:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video · https://t.co/3OCx16fYf1 | Jan 09 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (LinuxGizmos.com) https://t.co/lm5PjE6b13 | Jan 09 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines | Jan 09 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinuxGizmos.com | LinuxGizmos: embedded Linux news & devices | Jan 09 06:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 09 06:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator...' | Jan 09 06:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Wallpaper Contest...' | Jan 09 06:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List...' | Jan 09 06:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/685775696090775552 | Jan 09 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Nice try ! ;-) | Jan 09 06:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6953293 | Jan 09 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rump is a liar. Calls a 2000-people crowd "25,000" and blocks everyone not abhorrent like him http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/01/07/trump-campaign-lumbers-into-vermont/78375274/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin= | Jan 09 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | "he is remarkably embarrassing" | Jan 09 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.burlingtonfreepress.com | Latest: Trump crowd estimated at 2,000, plus protests [ http://ur1.ca/oeafa ] | Jan 09 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | But many people still support him... | Jan 09 07:01 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/07/social-justice-warriors-wreaking-havoc-in-open-source-software/ | Jan 09 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.breitbart.com | Social Justice Warriors Wreaking Havoc In Open Source [ http://ur1.ca/oeajo ] | Jan 09 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > - | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > "The addition of Shuttleworth only adds to what is already an | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > impressive lineup. Other keynoters on tap are Cory Doctorow who’ll be | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > giving a talk called “No Matter Who’s Winning the War on General Purpose | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > Computing, You’re Losing,” and Sarah Sharp..." | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > http://fossforce.com/2016/01/shuttleworth-at-scale-google-rolls-over-more/ | Jan 09 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Shuttleworth at SCALE, Google Rolls Over & More… | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/oeajq ] | Jan 09 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:10 |
| schestowitz | > ... :/ | Jan 09 08:11 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html | Jan 09 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-valerieaurora.org | Lifetimes of cryptographic hash functions | Jan 09 08:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > == | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > older: | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.techinsider.io/cyberattack-blackout-ukraine-2016-1 | Jan 09 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techinsider.io | Cyberattack blackout in Ukraine - Tech Insider | Jan 09 08:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > Russia only partially to blame. At the end of the day, M$ is and | Jan 09 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > whoever signed off on running M$ product inside a mission-critical | Jan 09 08:19 |
| schestowitz | > environment. Using M$ wastes resources and lives. | Jan 09 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Do we know for sure is MS was used there? Can you research this? If Microsoft was in there, it's a worthwhile article to prepare. | Jan 09 08:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam...' | Jan 09 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | > "it's alpha software), but it's worth checking out." | Jan 09 08:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 08:28 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/non-linux-foss-open-source-windows | Jan 09 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Non-Linux FOSS: Open-Source Windows? | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/oeakz ] | Jan 09 08:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium | Jan 09 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Od6IE5ykTn (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Tux Machines | Jan 09 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/kzYJrfH6wd | Jan 09 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeasz | Jan 09 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 09 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Announcement https://t.co/CsttrNHTVz | Jan 09 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 10:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Announcement | Tux Machines | Jan 09 10:17 | |
| MinceR | http://www.wired.com/2016/01/new-discovery-around-juniper-backdoor-raises-more-questions-about-the-company/ | Jan 09 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | New Discovery Around Juniper Backdoor Raises More Questions About the Company | WIRED | Jan 09 10:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List...' | Jan 09 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emulation and Windows https://t.co/9HpVfJDYar | Jan 09 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulation and Windows | Tux Machines | Jan 09 11:56 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Jan 09 12:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Jan 09 12:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: hi | Jan 09 12:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: YAY I bought Macafee yesterday, and I am not joking | Jan 09 12:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 09 12:39 |
| MinceR | the company? | Jan 09 12:39 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I am rich enough to buy the whole company | Jan 09 12:39 |
| MinceR | along with the rest of intel? | Jan 09 12:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no one of there products seriously | Jan 09 12:40 |
| MinceR | what for? | Jan 09 12:40 |
| sebsebseb | good question | Jan 09 12:40 |
| sebsebseb | why would I buy Macafee | Jan 09 12:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I had a choice get something earlier and buy a Macafee product as well, or wait about two weeks possibly | Jan 09 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | pay a little more having Macafee to | Jan 09 12:41 |
| MinceR | why get any of them? | Jan 09 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I wanted offical re install discs for Windows 10 | Jan 09 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | from HP | Jan 09 12:41 |
| MinceR | ew | Jan 09 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | they won't give those for my lap top, but they give Windows 8.1 discs | Jan 09 12:42 |
| MinceR | can't vista10 make recovery media? | Jan 09 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | I could have made my own sure, but | Jan 09 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: there is a recovery mode, but I think I might have some malware in there | Jan 09 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | since I got some baasically random program of the net before which was a bit silly | Jan 09 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | so rather just do a proper clean install | Jan 09 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | then can upgrade to 10 later | Jan 09 12:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am going to Linux my lap top proeprly after that | Jan 09 12:43 |
| MinceR | of course you have some malware in there | Jan 09 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | or uh try to, not sure how to get Grub coming up first! silly UEFI | Jan 09 12:43 |
| MinceR | it's called "windows" | Jan 09 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: what Windows | Jan 09 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | heh | Jan 09 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | thought you would put that | Jan 09 12:43 |
| MinceR | vista10, now more malicious than ever | Jan 09 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am not happy about the money I spent yesterday really | Jan 09 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but yese those discs were not cheap | Jan 09 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly Microsoft asked OEM's not to just give them away like before as well | Jan 09 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | since something to do with the machines being tied to the motherboard or whateer now to. the OS, the product key etc and then how there could be issues after woulds | Jan 09 12:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: occassiaonly need Windows for some program | Jan 09 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah in general it sucks | Jan 09 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | WIndows itself sucks | Jan 09 12:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well two years subscrition for some sucky Macafee product, that also works on phones, and my discs should come by like Wednsesday next week | Jan 09 12:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: apparantly Windwos 10 spys on peopole more yeah, if that's what you meant | Jan 09 12:48 |
| MinceR | not only that | Jan 09 12:49 |
| MinceR | it also has more botnet-like behavior | Jan 09 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | botnet like heaviour how so? | Jan 09 12:49 |
| MinceR | and the "upgrade" to it involves less consent from users than before | Jan 09 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and you can't just downagrde back after a month to | Jan 09 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | after doing that | Jan 09 12:49 |
| MinceR | p2p distribution of updates, mandatory installation of updates without opt-out in most versions | Jan 09 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | ah yeah the forced updates thing, but that's to make sure peopoe install security updats | Jan 09 12:50 |
| MinceR | so you don't get to disable the backdoor that executes arbitrary code | Jan 09 12:50 |
| MinceR | and it tries to get around your firewall with p2p tech | Jan 09 12:50 |
| MinceR | yeah yeah, there are always excuses for everything | Jan 09 12:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: there's no actsaul features in 10 that are worth it so far from what I have seen | Jan 09 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | multiple desktops is the best feature so far | Jan 09 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: so I may just hold out on 8.1 a bit longer | Jan 09 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | it wasn't on here for long before upgrading | Jan 09 12:51 |
| MinceR | X11 had multiple desktops for ages | Jan 09 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | yes it's a long over due feature that Linux and Mac had for ages | Jan 09 12:52 |
| sebsebseb | that's why it's good to they finally got it | Jan 09 12:52 |
| MinceR | macos didn't get it right though, afaik | Jan 09 12:54 |
| MinceR | and probably neither did winblows | Jan 09 12:54 |
| sebsebseb | the one in 10 is just very basic so far | Jan 09 12:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 best action games for Android! | Jan 09 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nosHNAELju | Jan 09 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jan 09 13:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | 10 best action games for Android! - Android Authority | Jan 09 13:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 terrific Android apps you won’t find on any | Jan 09 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | iPhone https://t.co/jW2Or0OiMF (bgr.com) | Jan 09 13:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android exclusive apps: Download 7 apps not found on the iPhone | BGR | Jan 09 13:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JArthur52694602/status/685895188372402176 | Jan 09 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JArthur52694602: when a spoof video can b made w/o twisting the words u know its bad: https://t.co/nF7SjXlMor https://t.co/wv6Lg70nsB | Jan 09 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Gov. Paul Lepage White Girls Heroin D-Money Trap Remix by Spose - YouTube | Jan 09 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Our racist imbecile of a governor Paul #LePage is making news again for projectile vomiting moronic words" https://t.co/Q9mPF8nDUU | Jan 09 13:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Launches OpenShift v3.1, Full of | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker/Kubernetes Goodness | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fCWE9k8btr (dzone.com) | Jan 09 14:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | Red Hat Launches OpenShift v3.1, Full of Docker/Kubernetes Goodness - DZone Integration | Jan 09 14:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Improving my Gtk and Music knowledge | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xZy0gEH74V (jordanaluft.com) | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnome programme for attracting female | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | developers. | Jan 09 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jordanaluft.com | Improving my Gtk and Music knowledge – Jordana Luft | Jan 09 14:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Durga_Karma The Michael Daily News by | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8L9GwMtRr0 | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (michael.lr-partner.com) wurde soeben | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | publiziert! https://t.co/vGlroqR7ZA (paper.li) | Jan 09 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vielen Dank an @ATastyHike @tuxmachines | Jan 09 14:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Michael Daily News by https://michael.lr-partner.com | Jan 09 14:09 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/685901692265627648 | Jan 09 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz The #Problem_with_Penguins: Too many species, &, they have religious ideas. @SwiftOnSecurity:That's a Double-Oxford, my dear. | Jan 09 14:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685787177603743744 | Jan 09 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: As a resident of the Munich area I must point out that Oktoberfest rapes are NOT comparable to #koelnhbf https://t.co/S4fSZxWZ83 #rapefugees | Jan 09 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.faz.net | Die Übergriffe in Köln und falsche Zahlen von der Wiesn | Jan 09 14:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685798450852708352 | Jan 09 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: High-profile conservative politician proposes that his party leave the German coalition government over #rapefugees https://t.co/mfFk4cV6tD | Jan 09 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@welt: Flüchtlingskrise: Gauweiler legt CSU Austritt aus Koalition nahe https://t.co/TYyd9QfL9s https://t.co/SaOSnKu7T6 | Jan 09 14:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685799663245619200 | Jan 09 14:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @flueke He gets attention, that's what I meant. Profile is not the same as power. | Jan 09 14:25 | |
| cubexyz | ok oiaohm | Jan 09 14:33 |
| cubexyz | put the sata/ide card in the P3 | Jan 09 14:33 |
| cubexyz | so I can enter the world of sata drives now :) | Jan 09 14:34 |
| cubexyz | sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom | Jan 09 14:34 |
| cubexyz | probably the only IDE thing the store still sold | Jan 09 14:34 |
| cubexyz | only problem now... no more molex connectors :-/ | Jan 09 14:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 14:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hp5iK9InUr (blog.linuxmint.com) | Jan 09 14:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kde also: https://t.co/nPUS7nfk0z | Jan 09 14:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.linuxmint.com) probably best distro | Jan 09 14:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | around | Jan 09 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 14:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE released! | Jan 09 14:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Announcement https://t.co/Xeio6n9ywG | Jan 09 14:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.9.1 is now available. | Jan 09 14:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 1.9.1 Adds More Shader Model 4 Instructions, MinGW ARM Toolchain Support | Jan 09 14:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/685906677695119361 | Jan 09 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents If I was a member of the fugees I would be rather worried. Shocking the reaction of the German police. | Jan 09 15:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 09 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 16:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 16:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unvanquished Kicks Off 2016 With Yet Another | Jan 09 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpha https://t.co/FQ5tOX8boj | Jan 09 16:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unvanquished Kicks Off 2016 With Yet Another Alpha - Phoronix | Jan 09 16:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 16:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source as a Driver of Internet of Things | Jan 09 16:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source as a Driver of Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New AMDGPU Details & Looking Forward To Major | Jan 09 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Radeon Linux Improvements In 2016 | Jan 09 16:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMDGPU Details & Looking Forward To Major Radeon Linux Improvements In 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 09 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 16:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FSF Surveys https://t.co/4wl88ts9nN | Jan 09 16:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Surveys | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0...' | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0...' | Jan 09 17:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Jan 09 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NINI6SrNlc (www.techworm.net) | Jan 09 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 » TechWorm | Jan 09 17:10 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/texas-governor-wants-add-nine-new-amendments-constitution | Jan 09 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Texas Governor Wants to Add 9 New Amendments to the Constitution | Mother Jones | Jan 09 17:24 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952378 | Jan 09 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Because "terrorism". Sure, sure... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/white-house-silicon-valley-meeting-terrorism-social-media-facebook-twitter-microsoft-youtube-apple http://www.firstpost.com/world/white-house-us-tech-giants-push-to-make-internet-use-harder-for-terror-groups-2576540.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3020322/fbi-nsa-seek-tech-firms-help-in-war-on-terror-at-silicon-valley-meet | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Asking Silicon Valley to 'disrupt' terrorists is tech talk for 'surveillance' | Trevor Timm | Opinion | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oec4s ] | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | "More need for Diaspora. I imagine the Google people are going as an anchor, but do they have anything about this on their company blog? If they care, they should be screaming." | Jan 09 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.firstpost.com | White House, US tech giants push to make internet use harder for terror groups - Firstpost [ http://ur1.ca/oec4t ] | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | FBI, NSA seek tech firms' help in war on terror at Silicon Valley meeting | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oec4u ] | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fortune.com | FBI Chief, U.S. Attorney General Visit Silicon Valley - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/oec4v ] | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952472 | Jan 09 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Goodbye, #Debian 8.1 http://thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/goodbye-debian-81.html #gnu #linux | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Goodbye, Debian 8.1 [ http://ur1.ca/oec4w ] | Jan 09 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s a weird write up. She’s trashing Debian because nVidia and publishers suck. With her mindset, she might as well use Windows.' | Jan 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BreatheSport/status/685945982169792517 | Jan 09 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BreatheSport: Man Utd's last 10 home games at HT… 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-0 https://t.co/VUcx4LrRzR | Jan 09 18:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 18:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk | Jan 09 18:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Tux Machines | Jan 09 18:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Macmillan USA #Mandrake Linux Commercial (1999) | Jan 09 18:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Cidzid7R1g (www.youtube.com) | Jan 09 18:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Macmillan USA Mandrake Linux Commercial (1999) - YouTube | Jan 09 18:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/VfOiWvr9YH | Jan 09 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux Machines | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Jan 09 18:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce | Jan 09 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and KDE Released https://t.co/loYzYqjgep | Jan 09 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jan 09 18:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce and KDE Released | Techrights | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/kzYJrfH6wd | Jan 09 18:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 09 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 09 18:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce | Jan 09 19:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Jan 09 19:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/10NHMzQAjz | Jan 09 19:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 09 19:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Q6xIeZzsI7 | Jan 09 19:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uAhjWqs19e | Jan 09 21:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4 Could Be Released Tomorrow, AMD | Jan 09 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memories https://t.co/t9OikKGCte | Jan 09 21:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4 Could Be Released Tomorrow, AMD Memories | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/66BtAHNcA7 | Jan 09 21:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:42 | |
| BACKUP | ||
| cubexyz | http://www.noaa.gov | Jan 03 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.noaa.gov | NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration | Jan 03 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | Salon is iffy | Jan 03 00:00 |
| cubexyz | http://scienceliteracy.ca | Jan 03 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scienceliteracy.ca | | Jan 03 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: no RSS feed in NOAA | Jan 03 00:01 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: look at the titles in the CA site | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | very generic | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Not really a news site | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | and last update was Sept. | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I've added WeMeantWell and EmptyWheel | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Because they're usually quite good, just never got around to RSS feeds there.. | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I am stick of twitter | Jan 03 00:03 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, why not make http://www.techrights.org/science | Jan 03 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/science ) | Jan 03 00:03 | |
| cubexyz | or something like that | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | a lot of people just take their activity there, and I had to as well..... because that's the trend, apparently... | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: who would run it? | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | there's a "science" category in daily links | Jan 03 00:03 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | it's easy to create a blog | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | takes a few minutes | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | running it for years is a huge commitment | Jan 03 00:04 |
| cubexyz | well it could just be a page of links | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | I created accounts for some people, but they only ever wrote a handful of articles | Jan 03 00:04 |
| cubexyz | doesn't have to be super fancy | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | links to news? | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines has many pages with live feeds in them, for FOSS matters | Jan 03 00:04 |
| cubexyz | ok there's: | Jan 03 00:05 |
| cubexyz | http://www.nws.noaa.gov/rss | Jan 03 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nws.noaa.gov | RSS Libraries and Podcast - NOAA's National Weather Service | Jan 03 00:05 | |
| cubexyz | http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/rss.html | Jan 03 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oceanservice.noaa.gov | National Ocean Service RSS Feed Library | Jan 03 00:06 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.epa.gov/newsroom/feeds | Jan 03 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epa.gov | Feeds | Newsroom | US EPA | Jan 03 00:07 | |
| cubexyz | but I guess mostly you want to concentrate on tech news | Jan 03 00:09 |
| cubexyz | just throwing out ideas here and there | Jan 03 00:10 |
| cubexyz | I got some ideas for a KDE blog post | Jan 03 00:12 |
| cubexyz | here's another one on deforestation: | Jan 03 00:15 |
| cubexyz | http://agriculture.einnews.com/news/deforestation | Jan 03 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agriculture.einnews.com | Deforestation RSS News Feed & Press Release Distribution - Agriculture Industry Today - EIN News | Jan 03 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | epa is good | Jan 03 00:16 |
| schestowitz | adding... | Jan 03 00:16 |
| schestowitz | "30-day free trial" | Jan 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | http://agriculture.einnews.com/my-rss/start | Jan 03 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agriculture.einnews.com | [ http://ur1.ca/odirh ] | Jan 03 00:18 | |
| schestowitz | dafaq | Jan 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | wait, it's just some service, not the original | Jan 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/RSS/epa_recentnews?opendocument | Jan 03 00:19 |
| schestowitz | http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/rss/nosnews.xml 148 items | Jan 03 00:21 |
| schestowitz | feed needs trimming | Jan 03 00:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nws.noaa.gov/rss/ very US-centric | Jan 03 00:22 |
| schestowitz | like weather reports | Jan 03 00:22 |
| schestowitz | so not really a news site | Jan 03 00:22 |
| cubexyz | each country has their rough equivalent | Jan 03 00:23 |
| cubexyz | e.g. Canada has Environment Canada | Jan 03 00:23 |
| schestowitz | yeah, would only interest locals | Jan 03 00:24 |
| cubexyz | I don't know if there's a world-wide environmental organization | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | not much intl' ramification | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | not even if it's the weather is in World Police or Five Eyes | Jan 03 00:24 |
| cubexyz | it sounds like a good idea though :) | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I hardly follow even our own weather at this level of details | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I check BBC weather about 5 times a day | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to identify feeds that will help gather news that matters, not just for FOSS | Jan 03 00:25 |
| cubexyz | there's the WNO = World Nature Organization | Jan 03 00:25 |
| schestowitz | For tuxmachines I do have that for linux and foss, I'm seeing almost everything that's going on and quite quickly too | Jan 03 00:25 |
| schestowitz | do they have a news RSS feed? | Jan 03 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I added about 20 RSS feeds tonight | Jan 03 00:26 |
| schestowitz | they'll end up feeding, with discretion, the daily links and other things | Jan 03 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I deleted lots of crap feeds, moved them to another pile | Jan 03 00:26 |
| cubexyz | WNO doesn't have rss as far as I can see | Jan 03 00:27 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-3.5-krename-worth-a-look.png | Jan 03 00:29 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what to do in 2016 news-wise | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | could write 10 articles a day | Jan 03 00:30 |
| cubexyz | don't think krename is part of kdeutils but it should be | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | but then less so in tux machines in so-called 'social' media | Jan 03 00:30 |
| cubexyz | very powerful program | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | wow, qt3 looks so familiar but nostalgic | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | this is the widget set whose name I forgot | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | was it plastiK? | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | in kde4 oxygen and curve took over | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | qt5 has this ugly 'breeze' thing | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | I can still start plasmashell from openbox | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | but I never do, no point to it unless I need klipper | Jan 03 00:31 |
| cubexyz | I remember there was kde-look.org | Jan 03 00:31 |
| cubexyz | I tend to stick with things I like :) | Jan 03 00:32 |
| cubexyz | so if I like KDE 3.5.X then I tend to keep using it | Jan 03 00:33 |
| cubexyz | in fact, I tend to keep different snapshots of software from different eras | Jan 03 00:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe you can make a business out of it | Jan 03 00:35 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 03 00:35 |
| cubexyz | yeah why not | Jan 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | some people might want to have a kde3 box shipped to them | Jan 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | for backward compatibility for instance, e.g. in CERN | Jan 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I thought about going to kde3 before ending up with openbox | Jan 03 00:35 |
| cubexyz | well you know about trinity so there is some interest for sure | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | I was MOST efficient with KDE3 and that was ages ago, more than a decade | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | I had PAGER | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | kde4 never really got a decent pager | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | it had good wallpaper shufflers | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | it was fast, | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva 2008 spring came with opengl effects in kwin | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | and these worked well | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | pusleaudio was a sore spot at the time | Jan 03 00:37 |
| cubexyz | I maintain a develop system for KDE 3.5.10 as well | Jan 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | maybe I'll move to KDE 3.5 one day | Jan 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | it's not secure on paper, but spies have off-the-shelf tools for more recent builds | Jan 03 00:37 |
| cubexyz | I think you can intermix different eras of KDE if you really want to | Jan 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | like new kate on kde3 base? | Jan 03 00:38 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Might be awkward | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | because you need different versions of kde installed at the same time | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | unless one thing runs in a VM | Jan 03 00:38 |
| cubexyz | that's basically what trinity does though | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | or a development environment with its own locally hosted binaries and dynamic links | Jan 03 00:38 |
| cubexyz | it has pseudo-KDE 3 and parts of newer KDE | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know, I though it still had all kate | Jan 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | trinity uses /opt for some stuff | Jan 03 00:39 |
| schestowitz | with missing features and all the old bugs | Jan 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | and really at LGP we used gcc 3.X.X (forget exactly which one) for different things | Jan 03 00:40 |
| cubexyz | it was absolutely necessary | Jan 03 00:40 |
| cubexyz | years ago, I was worried that all the KDE stuff I really liked would disappear | Jan 03 00:43 |
| cubexyz | so I started stockpiling all the libraries and source code, everything I could find | Jan 03 00:43 |
| cubexyz | I have complete KDE 3.4.2 and complete KDE 3.5.10 | Jan 03 00:44 |
| cubexyz | plus a bunch of other good programs which aren't really part of any distro as far as I can tell | Jan 03 00:44 |
| cubexyz | most of the time the original maintainer is gone and sometimes there's no one to pick it up | Jan 03 00:45 |
| cubexyz | and basically KDE 3.5.10 stuff has started to disappear | Jan 03 00:46 |
| cubexyz | just purely as a pragmatic measure folks delete older KDE stuff | Jan 03 00:46 |
| cubexyz | so why not archive it... I'm glad I did | Jan 03 00:47 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-3.5-krusader.png | Jan 03 00:49 |
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| cubexyz | at least krusader is in trinity | Jan 03 00:51 |
| MinceR | i guess it's part of kde turning into gnome | Jan 03 00:51 |
| MinceR | throw out features, throw out applications | Jan 03 00:52 |
| cubexyz | well I know for sure some stuff is probably lost | Jan 03 00:53 |
| cubexyz | there'no way all the older KDE development | Jan 03 00:54 |
| cubexyz | there's no way we have all the KDE development stuff | Jan 03 00:54 |
| cubexyz | KDE 3.5.10 yes | Jan 03 00:54 |
| cubexyz | older stuff, no | Jan 03 00:54 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: krusader is like a graphical mc? | Jan 03 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think so | Jan 03 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think my widget style was set to keramik | Jan 03 00:59 |
| msb_ | I tried it and it said I hadn't used it before and could it scan for what programs I had? I quit it. | Jan 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | or KDE classic? | Jan 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | one of those | Jan 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | I built krusader from source | Jan 03 01:01 |
| msb_ | I'm very glad you have complete kde3.5.10 sources. They could save the world! | Jan 03 01:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/krusader-1.80.0.tar.gz | Jan 03 01:03 |
| cubexyz | it's not that big | Jan 03 01:03 |
| cubexyz | actually krename is probably more useful | Jan 03 01:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/krename-3.0.14.tar.bz2 | Jan 03 01:06 |
| cubexyz | over all I found KDE 3.5.10 a bit overly elaborate, but some parts were very good and worth closer analysis | Jan 03 01:07 |
| cubexyz | the KDE 1.0 developers argued quite logically that KDE 2 was bloated :) | Jan 03 01:09 |
| msb_ | Complex mass renaming can be done using sed in a bash script. You can identify and various parts of the filenames, rearrange them, remove some, add others, etc. | Jan 03 01:09 |
| cubexyz | but no one was crazy enough to make a modern KDE 1.0 distro | Jan 03 01:09 |
| msb_ | I meant "identify and extract" | Jan 03 01:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | likewise perl onelliner | Jan 03 01:12 |
| cubexyz | sometimes you want the full meal deal | Jan 03 01:12 |
| cubexyz | klipper + krename + kwhatever | Jan 03 01:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | krusty + klown | Jan 03 01:13 |
| msb_ | I prefer CLI and curses apps to GUI. Less hand motion, less hand-eye coordination, and cursor movements are automatically quantized. | Jan 03 01:18 |
| msb_ | Of course cli apps often need bash scripting. | Jan 03 01:18 |
| cubexyz | klipper was a huge improvement over xclipboard | Jan 03 01:19 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I think you were right about howtogeek, the top of every page says "Windows 10" - similar to what I think MS paid CBS/ZDNet to do http://www.howtogeek.com/189508/how-to-share-files-between-user-accounts-on-windows-linux-or-os-x/?PageSpeed=noscript | Jan 03 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How to Share Files Between User Accounts on Windows, Linux, or OS X | Jan 03 01:19 | |
| cubexyz | and every OEM too | Jan 03 01:20 |
| cubexyz | it's just brainwashing | Jan 03 01:20 |
| msb_ | I don't use any of klipper's features, just the fact that it can be loaded from CLI. | Jan 03 01:20 |
| cubexyz | I can't think of a better way to show features which are not often used than pull-down menus | Jan 03 01:21 |
| cubexyz | web browsers, paint programs etc | Jan 03 01:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: man pages? | Jan 03 01:22 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen CLI mass-rename utilities too | Jan 03 01:23 |
| cubexyz | that's great except you know that developers don't always write man pages | Jan 03 01:23 |
| cubexyz | I do, maybe even qu1j0t3 does | Jan 03 01:23 |
| cubexyz | but most don't | Jan 03 01:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: cli w/o man pages is hardly a recipe for success :) | Jan 03 01:24 |
| cubexyz | what's the most recent man page you wrote qu1j0t3 ? | Jan 03 01:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: hm okay, my CLI utilities have --help | Jan 03 01:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: but i rarely write them | Jan 03 01:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | I don't really think any program without documentation is going to go far, whether i write it or anyone else does. | Jan 03 01:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | unless of course it always does just what you want :-) | Jan 03 01:26 |
| cubexyz | how many young uns understand troff? | Jan 03 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | troff is a horrible markup. | Jan 03 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Jan 03 01:26 |
| cubexyz | ok well there you go | Jan 03 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | younguns seem to like markdown, but that'smediocre too. has the avantage of being sort of readable uncompiled (see also ReST). | Jan 03 01:27 |
| cubexyz | kids today click on help within the program | Jan 03 01:29 |
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| cubexyz | and you can just imagine what the windows crowd would say to me if I said 'man pages are the way to go' | Jan 03 01:30 |
| cubexyz | so I don't do that :) | Jan 03 01:30 |
| cubexyz | there's no universal help system | Jan 03 01:31 |
| cubexyz | most computers don't even have a help button | Jan 03 01:31 |
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| cubexyz | a while ago I programmed f1 to run xman | Jan 03 01:34 |
| cubexyz | xman is Xaw, Xmu, Xt | Jan 03 01:35 |
| cubexyz | there's khelpcenter man:ls | Jan 03 01:36 |
| cubexyz | don't know if current KDE still uses that | Jan 03 01:36 |
| MinceR | i prefer LaTeX to *roff :> | Jan 03 01:40 |
| cubexyz | how to geek is just a sham | Jan 03 01:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: indeed. | Jan 03 01:42 |
| cubexyz | I don't think there's anything wrong with writing man pages, it's just almost no one does | Jan 03 01:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | I would go further and say they are actually useful | Jan 03 01:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | but I grant you, troff is terrible. | Jan 03 01:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is partly why texinfo exists. | Jan 03 01:45 |
| cubexyz | maybe there's something that can convert to troff? | Jan 03 01:50 |
| cubexyz | mostly it seems the utilities go the other way, troff to something else | Jan 03 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Supercharge Your Command Line With Fish Shell | Jan 03 04:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Supercharge Your Command Line With Fish Shell | Tux Machines | Jan 03 04:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 04:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jbucaran @tuxmachines And with Fisherman too for the | Jan 03 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | full happy set https://t.co/Cljlt852ja | Jan 03 04:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | fisherman/fisherman · GitHub | Jan 03 04:43 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt | Jan 03 07:21 |
| cubexyz | amusing | Jan 03 07:21 |
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| schestowitz | > Are you the principal and founder of the Diaspora Foundation? From what I see it looks like it could be an improvement of the incredibly popular, Facebook. | Jan 03 09:06 |
| schestowitz | I write a lot there, but I'm no management there. I don't even develop there. It's like the anti-Facebook, for several reasons. | Jan 03 09:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6940160 | Jan 03 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debian, please plan for Stretch https://nthykier.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/debian-please-plan-for-stretch/ #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 03 09:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nthykier.wordpress.com | Debian, please plan for Stretch | nthykier | Jan 03 09:08 | |
| schestowitz | "what about able to install #systemd free distro?" | Jan 03 09:08 |
| schestowitz | "I don’t think Debian will allow that going forward. | Jan 03 09:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 03 09:08 |
| schestowitz | Devuan | Jan 03 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr (blog.jolla.com) | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WjaAj3OUb6 (linuxg.net) #nokia | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #finland #sailfishos | Jan 03 09:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 03 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Jolla Cannot Ship Tablets To All Their Backers, But Will Reward The Unlucky Fans | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Unikernel Firewall for #QubesOS | Jan 03 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qHBor2j3nx (roscidus.com) | Jan 03 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #freesw | Jan 03 09:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-roscidus.com | A Unikernel Firewall for QubesOS - Thomas Leonard's blog | Jan 03 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn’t do no | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | drugs https://t.co/120kcKMclj | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.darknedgy.net) "concise tour of | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | microkernel myths and misconceptions" | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjto | Jan 03 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.darknedgy.net | Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn't do no drugs | Jan 03 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rawhide year in review https://t.co/sVKG924Uy0 | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.scrye.com) | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjtp | Jan 03 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scrye.com | Rawhide year in review – Kevin's musings | Jan 03 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WWuUEQ9vn9 (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2lN7b0efnG (github.com) | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sHNurznRx9 (lists.debian.org) | Jan 03 09:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool - Phoronix | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Managing Debian packages with cme · dod38fr/config-model Wiki · GitHub | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @3RDI_TEK favourited 'A Unikernel Firewall for #QubesOS https://t.co/qHBor2j3nx #security #freesw' | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/01/msg00000.html ) | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool https://t.co/WWuUEQ9vn9 https://t.co/2lN7b0efnG...' | Jan 03 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Firejail - Sandbox for Linux, wanna build a | Jan 03 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | castle? https://t.co/qGdIQyzQFP | Jan 03 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.dedoimedo.com) | Jan 03 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjul | Jan 03 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Firejail - Sandbox for Linux, wanna build a castle? | Jan 03 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @JollaBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr...' | Jan 03 09:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 03 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The big Android 6.0 Marshmallow update list: | Jan 03 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Start of 2015 edition | Jan 03 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wITGZskRRz (www.gsmarena.com) | Jan 03 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjvk | Jan 03 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | The big Android 6.0 Marshmallow update list: Start of 2015 edition - GSMArena.com news | Jan 03 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Access Without Empowerment (LibrePlanet 2015 | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keynote) | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yrlJaz4cnX (mako.cc) | Jan 03 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mako.cc | Access Without Empowerment (LibrePlanet 2015 Keynote) – copyrighteous | Jan 03 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE Desktop Has Been Spotted On Ubuntu Touch | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4ExrONtVd3 (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 09:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux distributions, which one is perfect for | Jan 03 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | MATE Desktop Has Been Spotted On Ubuntu Touch | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | you? https://t.co/KBKNF2snTq (www.marksei.com) | Jan 03 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marksei.com | Linux distributions, which one is perfect for you? – Marksei | Jan 03 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3z717b/linux_tablet_for_modification/ | Jan 03 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux tablet for modification : linux | Jan 03 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | done this beofre... | Jan 03 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unity 8 Will Permit The Users To Swipe Between | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps While In Full Screen | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/25Fg96REPu (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Unity 8 Will Permit The Users To Swipe Between Apps While In Full Screen | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Deepin OS 15 - I'M IN LOVE! | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Os6TGzviLM (www.youtube.com) | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwn | Jan 03 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Deepin OS 15 - I'M IN LOVE! - YouTube | Jan 03 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PHP 7.0 packages released | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oduM69rnGV (www.archlinux.org) | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwo | Jan 03 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: PHP 7.0 packages released | Jan 03 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/683586991276081156 | Jan 03 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Wow!!!!!!!!! https://t.co/xlwJ8Naxv8 | Jan 03 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: OSjs Is A New Javascript Based Open Source Operating System Running In Your Browser https://t.co/bBtPTqBcAu #freesw | Jan 03 10:03 | |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/92191/the-bsd-black-box-bsd-now-122/ | Jan 03 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | The BSD Black Box | BSD Now 122 | Jupiter Broadcasting [ http://ur1.ca/odk0c ] | Jan 03 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 03 10:33 |
| schestowitz | > a little on LLVM (vs GCC) and console development. M$ aggressively | Jan 03 10:33 |
| schestowitz | > pursuing... | Jan 03 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Apple also... | Jan 03 10:33 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: before LLVM Microsoft was demanding puring their own complier for console development. | Jan 03 10:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chakuari/status/683597794570014720 | Jan 03 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chakuari: @alexanderhanff @schestowitz would you suggest Slackware today? | Jan 03 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: now they embrace it to harm GCC, I think | Jan 03 10:37 |
| schestowitz | copyleft | Jan 03 10:37 |
| schestowitz | RMS complained about this | Jan 03 10:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there is many sides to it. | Jan 03 10:38 |
| oiaohm | 1 MS and Apple own compliers have been able to keep up with C and C++ standards. | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > x http://blog.teleri.net/open-microsoft/ | Jan 03 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.teleri.net | Open Microsoft | Jan 03 10:39 | |
| schestowitz | (Standard disclaimer: I write for me, not Microsoft, despite working there) | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | LOL - writing for one's wallet. | Jan 03 10:39 |
| oiaohm | 2 Gcc does not allow them extended it. | Jan 03 10:39 |
| oiaohm | So LLVM is BSD and Unix all over again. | Jan 03 10:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LavieRemi/status/683599601555927041 | Jan 03 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LavieRemi: Tu es animateur BAFA ? inscris toi sur animyjob c'est 100% gratuit https://t.co/5oezR8s2UY #bafa https://t.co/OTMIAWmAQc | Jan 03 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'animyjob.com' ( status 0 @ http://animyjob.com ) | Jan 03 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Facebook the enemy of truth and civic unity? https://t.co/8GJVNyYPgk #facebook a truly VILE company, not "social" or friend | Jan 03 10:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Nexus 6P Review - Android Overdose | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0A5whqGHYr (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 03 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google Nexus 6P Review - Android Overdose | Jan 03 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RlrXs0AmrR (www.infoworld.com) | Jan 03 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016 Won't Be Exciting For Linux Desktop | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enthusiasts https://t.co/ZWTVTs3ocd | Jan 03 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | CES 2016 Won't Be Too Exciting For Linux Desktop Enthusiasts - Phoronix | Jan 03 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | >>> old: | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> x http://blog.teleri.net/open-microsoft/ | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > (Standard disclaimer: I write for me, not Microsoft, despite working there) | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > LOL - writing for one's wallet. | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | > I lost the link (or sent it already) but there is a case about | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | > disparagement clauses in contracts. If those are found to be invalid, | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | > then maybe some former softers can come out of the cold. | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Even after leaving the company, in some cases... | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the ex-MSFT who complained about the MSFT tax dodge... his site is gone. He didn't renew, so it's down the sinkhole, Web Archive, or sites that refer to it and sometimes quote from it.... | Jan 03 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/683639807759769600 | Jan 03 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz If a product is apparently free then you are the product. | Jan 03 13:24 | |
| oiaohm | The fact that the possibility of Linux desktops being at CES is something new in it self. | Jan 03 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7FgMY8wPjT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 13:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines State of the Red Hat union is secur | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cqUVveN4Um (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odkdo | Jan 03 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | State of the Red Hat union is secur | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683640120264769537 | Jan 03 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz The #freemium model. | Jan 03 13:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/683641056534073344 | Jan 03 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @chakuari @schestowitz I dont know I havent used it for over a decade | Jan 03 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Drew_R_Pearce/status/683641509749592065 | Jan 03 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Drew_R_Pearce: We see these platforms as 'neutral' but can shape interactions, I wonder if we could see #opensource alt in future. https://t.co/U1xmwpihOa | Jan 03 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How long before #twitter pulls another #facebook & decides to do 'experiments', like manipulating what people do in timelines. Neutrality? | Jan 03 13:43 | |
| schestowitz | There's Diaspora already, the main one that I use, but it's small | Jan 03 13:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/683641774615719936 | Jan 03 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz I find twitter handy to point me at news stories I've missed - I mostly avoid FB (my mother is on it!) | Jan 03 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nyakasanga/status/683641976651149312 | Jan 03 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nyakasanga: @schestowitz join Facebook | Jan 03 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683642549987315713 | Jan 03 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz For anyone else: https://t.co/gAT5t5cba5 and never hesitate to join the #backuptheinternetproject ;-) | Jan 03 13:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> archive.org | Internet Archive: Wayback Machine | Jan 03 13:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Drew_R_Pearce/status/683646174625198085 | Jan 03 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Drew_R_Pearce: @schestowitz (and I mean a larger portion of users) | Jan 03 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/683654030829195264 | Jan 03 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz if only routers were not closed and limited as fr ok m major ISPs | Jan 03 14:28 | |
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| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4U0KBvzi7g | Jan 03 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Shriekback - This Big Hush - YouTube | Jan 03 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | In the following page the latest 3 items relate to the experience of an SME: | Jan 03 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Jan 03 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jan 03 17:06 | |
| schestowitz | I hope that some time soon the parliamentary aspect of this story will become safe to publicise too. | Jan 03 17:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will | Jan 03 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Receive One https://t.co/o2qDwfoYyq | Jan 03 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 17:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will Receive One | Tux Machines | Jan 03 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been | Jan 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/WOQxPS2mBE (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 17:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been Released | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Jan 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tFTgBPoqEy (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 17:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 - Phoronix | Jan 03 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/WOQxPS2mBE (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 17:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro #Fluxbox 15.12 released | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JJUgAkFzYC (manjaro.github.io) | Jan 03 17:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Jan 03 17:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines State of the #RedHat union is secure | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nfAFB7EXxS (www.albawaba.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ghgoy3Mn0T | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (theenterpriseleader.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albawaba.com | State of the Red Hat union is secur | Al Bawaba | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theenterpriseleader.com | Growth Score By Zacks: Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Receive One https://t.co/PTQCOOm3dP | Jan 03 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will Receive One - Phoronix | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Founder’s Last Tweets About a Police | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encounter Saved on Archive . is | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xPeLJrDNf5 (observer.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-observer.com | Debian Founder’s Last Tweets About a Police Encounter Saved on Archive.is | | Observer | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/uXFZXXx6L7 | Jan 03 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/fxDBaRrov7 | Jan 03 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/wuHc9l8fFR | Jan 03 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released | Jan 03 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/683654432802902016 | Jan 03 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @FredSimonEU nice 2 meet u again 6 yrs after our BXL meeting on antitrust/mergers/IP and my EurActiv contribution | Jan 03 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | lobbying? | Jan 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/patent-amendments-not-allowed-during.html?showComment=1451782911326#c3864190626744412351 | Jan 03 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Patent amendments not allowed during court proceedngs, rules Malaysia's highest court [ http://ur1.ca/odle9 ] | Jan 03 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | "The decision of the Malaysian Federal Court is self-evidently foolish (I am always reluctant to use the word 'wrong' about rulings of final appellate courts). However, it is not uncommon across jurisdictions for a court to convince itself of the fallacy that a dependent claim is somehow fatally 'infected' by the invalidity of its associated independent claim. Fortunately, this usually happens before some judge at first instance who is | Jan 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | relatively inexperienced in patent law, and either remains an irrelevant curiosity, or is corrected on appeal." | Jan 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/683659000504778752 | Jan 03 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @FOSSpatents safety nets? | Jan 03 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | see context: | Jan 03 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/patent-amendments-not-allowed-during.html?showComment=1451820742114#c9047948031229625128 | Jan 03 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Patent amendments not allowed during court proceedngs, rules Malaysia's highest court [ http://ur1.ca/odlen ] | Jan 03 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: nice one... | Jan 03 18:58 |
| schestowitz | !google apple pregnant safety nets | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - What Foods You Should Eat (and Not Eat) When Pregnant « | http://kimberlysnyder.com/blog/2012/02/07/what-foods-you-should-eat-and-not-eat-when-pregnant/ | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Apple consumption during pregnancy reduces risk for childhood ... | http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/67314.php | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Why Avoid Non-Organic Foods During Pregnancy? | http://www.healingourchildren.net/Pregnancy_Diet/Why_Avoid_Non.html | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Supplier Responsibility Standards - Apple | https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple_Supplier_Responsibility_Standards.pdf | Jan 03 18:58 |
| schestowitz | I guess only [4] turned out to be relevant, and Apple spin | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Jan 03 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/hw6ZXHd2a5 | Jan 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Reproducible Builds | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Reproducible Builds | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE New Year https://t.co/BAFFPvYmWK | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE New Year | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/bq4G7Kyiii | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for Fedora and OpenSUSE | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2016/01/worlds-greatest-spy-movies-c4-trailer.html | Jan 03 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anniemachon.ch | World’s Greatest Spy Movies – C4 Trailer - Using Our Intelligence - Annie Machon | Jan 03 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/683711552604749829 | Jan 03 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Keep in mind that Alison Brimelow isn't so innocent! Evil events at the EPO started possibly even long before her presidency! | Jan 03 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714277425967104 https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714465968295936 | Jan 03 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz actually the Hammonds, who are white, were prosecuted as terrorists for starting a fire on their land that spread to fed land | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz this "this would be called terrorism if not for race" bit is getting tired. equivalent of "i'm not gonna call you a dick but... | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714697254825984 | Jan 03 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz how many people saying "this would/should be terrorism" and "this IS terrorism" does it take to reject claim no one's doing it? | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/david_jansen/status/683730911062523905 | Jan 03 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@david_jansen: @schestowitz @digital_human for extra slow mail delivery ;-) | Jan 03 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/683731225513693184 | Jan 03 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: awful; & #climatechange likely to spread this widely across Americas... https://t.co/a7Q1ccqF7L | Jan 03 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qz: A virus linked to shrinking newborns' brains is spreading rapidly beyond Brazil https://t.co/X7znICyMpa https://t.co/JQXAkHhW22 | Jan 03 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johngoode/status/682487228237541376 | Jan 03 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johngoode: BBC website down. Not a mention of it from official Beeb social media channels. #ddos? | Jan 03 19:57 | |
| cubexyz | Facebook, Apple, & Microsoft are basically evil | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | not just them | Jan 03 20:45 |
| cubexyz | believe it or not I think Facebook might be the least evil of the three | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | and some are more evil in certain ways than others | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, in some ways | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Facebook at least uses a lot of Linux and BSD | Jan 03 20:46 |
| schestowitz | and its main issues are surveillance and censorship, not attacks on net neutrality | Jan 03 20:46 |
| schestowitz | (which in itself is a serious issue) | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/8fA9cePtF6 | Jan 03 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 20:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/bq4G7Kyiii | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @TecnologiaFree (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 20:46 |
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| cubexyz | Apple might be the worst: the Anti-Packardian Entity of Conspicuous Consumption | Jan 03 20:47 |
| cubexyz | make everyone continually dissatisifed with their possessions, hence new possessions must be acquired | Jan 03 20:48 |
| cubexyz | the idea that people can re-purpose things seems to be rather novel | Jan 03 20:49 |
| cubexyz | well Facebook _can_ actually be good | Jan 03 20:53 |
| cubexyz | https://www.facebook.com/RepurposedThings | Jan 03 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.facebook.com | Repurposed Recycled Reused Reclaimed Restored | Jan 03 20:54 | |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit in awe of previous generations | Jan 03 20:55 |
| cubexyz | the patience required for knitting socks for example... | Jan 03 20:56 |
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| cubexyz | ok, should be able to round up some of the KDE orphans today | Jan 03 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Now comes the news that the movie has propelled the domestic box office to its greatest revenues ever in 2015, topping $11 billion for the first time." | Jan 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/star-wars-is-making-zillions-of-dollars | Jan 03 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/star-wars-is-making-zillions-of-dollars ) | Jan 03 22:33 | |
| schestowitz | It's a crappy franchise, never liked it... | Jan 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | [07:21] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt | Jan 03 23:17 |
| schestowitz | good | Jan 03 23:17 |
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| cubexyz | back in 1977 Star Wars was kind of a big deal | Jan 03 23:25 |
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| cubexyz | still have my 1977 poster: | Jan 03 23:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/star-wars-original-1977-poster.png | Jan 03 23:45 |
| cubexyz | don't bother with it now though | Jan 03 23:46 |
| cubexyz | now the tech from 1977 interests me, but that is about it | Jan 03 23:47 |
| cubexyz | Christmas 1980: | Jan 03 23:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/star-wars-tie-fighter-display.jpg | Jan 03 23:48 |
| cubexyz | oops, wrong pic | Jan 03 23:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/christmas-1980-toytown-star-wars.jpg | Jan 03 23:54 |
| cubexyz | you can see some reflection of yonge street there | Jan 03 23:56 |
| schestowitz | is the movie any good? | Jan 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | saw the trailer earlier | Jan 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | seems like it would only appeal to cultists | Jan 03 23:58 |
| cubexyz | well I was about 12 back then :) | Jan 03 23:59 |
| schestowitz | and the reviews average at around 4/5 | Jan 03 23:59 |
| cubexyz | all the kids were talking about it | Jan 03 23:59 |
| cubexyz | yes, as a youngster I liked it, but I haven't seen the original movie in a long time | Jan 03 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenJDK in the News https://t.co/887PAFtwfW | Jan 04 00:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenJDK in the News | Tux Machines | Jan 04 00:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The way you write https://t.co/YeS4b3ISr4 | Jan 04 00:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The way you write | Tux Machines | Jan 04 00:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software | Jan 04 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 01:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 01:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.12 Just Arrived with | Jan 04 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systemd and OpenRC Flavors | Jan 04 01:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux Fluxbox 15.12 Just Arrived with systemd and OpenRC Flavors | Tux Machines | Jan 04 01:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines James Bottomley (formerly of #novell and other | Jan 04 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | companies) on #patent related complications in | Jan 04 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw and #linux https://t.co/7RSOl7IG2U | Jan 04 01:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.hansenpartnership.com | A Modest Proposal on the DCO | James Bottomley's random Pages | Jan 04 01:33 | |
| cubexyz | maybe that will be the future of linux... systemd and openrc flavours | Jan 04 01:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh | Jan 04 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 04 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/ehSEHZNy3O | Jan 04 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for Fedora and OpenSUSE | Jan 04 01:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One way or another, #police intervention killed | Jan 04 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian's father https://t.co/1zMM0lPiaD | Jan 04 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (twitter.com) #assange (Wikileaks) ex-Debian | Jan 04 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: US Debian founder dead shortly after tweeting about police beating: His last tweets: https://t.co/Vr80eQ0bCk https://t.co/4han4kQ9yb | Jan 04 01:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> archive.is | Ian Murdock (@imurdock) | Twitter | Jan 04 01:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: US Debian founder dead shortly after tweeting about police beating: His last tweets: https://t.co/Vr80eQ0bCk https://t.co/4han4kQ9yb | Jan 04 01:46 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 04 02:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for...' | Jan 04 03:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/P6k3DE4mNH | Jan 04 03:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 04 03:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/am8KmV7vwx | Jan 04 03:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 04 03:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares | Jan 04 03:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 03:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Tux Machines | Jan 04 03:23 | |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you know what the deal is with unsermake? | Jan 04 06:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: unsermake has been around for a long time KDE attempt to make something better than the m4 based automake | Jan 04 06:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: key word attempt. Most people building KDE stuff disable unsermake | Jan 04 06:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/CMake/KDE4 as of KDE4 the kde project deprecated unsermake usage and went Cmake. | Jan 04 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techbase.kde.org | Development/Tutorials/CMake/KDE4 - KDE TechBase | Jan 04 06:58 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: exactly what reason have you run into unsermake | Jan 04 06:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | he felt a bump under his car while driving late at night, stopped, got a flashlight, and looked | Jan 04 07:00 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: I was thinking maybe playing around with some old KDE 3/2 code base for some reason. | Jan 04 07:03 |
| cubexyz | thought I'd try to compile kradio | Jan 04 07:07 |
| cubexyz | I used to run this old program simply called 'radio' | Jan 04 07:13 |
| cubexyz | for a win pci fm something or other card | Jan 04 07:13 |
| cubexyz | Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card actually | Jan 04 07:17 |
| cubexyz | anyways, it looks like the old kradio is a bust | Jan 04 07:19 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Cobrian/status/683908372341592064 | Jan 04 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cobrian: @schestowitz A zillion ads, and no link to the video that I could see... | Jan 04 08:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @seclabor #OpenSource 01a is out! https://t.co/U8QJKJeYu3 | Jan 04 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Stories via @Security_FAQs | Jan 04 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PedroArtino @tuxmachines | Jan 04 09:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | #OpenSource 01a | Jan 04 09:19 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rdrake98/status/683938808644169729 | Jan 04 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rdrake98: As is typical, the article fails to say how many coal mines, and coal-fired power stations, are open right now https://t.co/c5CnEKAZ58 | Jan 04 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #China clamps down on #coal https://t.co/hEmG9DXGi0 | Jan 04 09:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, | Jan 04 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Clement Lefebvre https://t.co/j2HvipZCkP | Jan 04 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, Says Clement Lefebvre | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking your Linux computer for a better | Jan 04 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | listening experience https://t.co/YPgYTnHiRv | Jan 04 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacking your Linux computer for a better listening experience | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports | Jan 04 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GStreamer 1.0, New Gadu-Gadu Library | Jan 04 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports GStreamer 1.0, New Gadu-Gadu Library | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Stallman Cycle https://t.co/EUbY5EgRRn | Jan 04 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (error) | Jan 04 09:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hiking a mountain with Ian #Murdock | Jan 04 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VVLhVzRYAR | Jan 04 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (changelog.complete.org) | Jan 04 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt ) | Jan 04 09:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Hiking a mountain with Ian Murdock | The Changelog | Jan 04 09:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The way you write https://t.co/635NHD2Mpo | Jan 04 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (standardsandfreedom.net) | Jan 04 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standardsandfreedom.net | The way you write | Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards | Jan 04 09:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “welcome a Linux-running PS4” | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xwDhJThCD0 (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Here's your Linux-booting PS4, says fail0verflow • The Register | Jan 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The open source Itch games store app needs | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | translators https://t.co/5KmZut30mY | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odob9 | Jan 04 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The open source Itch games store app needs translators | GamingOnLinux | Jan 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: What To Expect From Android Police's | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coverage Of The World's Biggest Tech Show | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6CGSS4EfAo (www.androidpolice.com) | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoba | Jan 04 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | CES 2016: What To Expect From Android Police's Coverage Of The World's Biggest Tech Show | Jan 04 10:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/683952862037020672 | Jan 04 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: #Debian Well, not quite ;-) date +%s 1451902031 https://t.co/4Fa2fl9j5s | Jan 04 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Happy 1.5 Billion #Unix Seconds https://t.co/7k5z0Acwe9 | Jan 04 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five Android Tablet Tricks For Your Lounge Room | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cCxiuOjtbg (www.gizmodo.com.au) | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odod1 | Jan 04 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Five Android Tablet Tricks For Your Lounge Room | Gizmodo Australia | Jan 04 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Does the Use of Docker Effect Latency? | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w6cIq96Pu0 (highscalability.com) | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "characteristics are pretty much | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | indistinguishable from Linux itself." | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odod2 | Jan 04 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-highscalability.com | How Does the Use of Docker Effect Latency? - High Scalability - | Jan 04 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based #CalculateLinux 15.12 Distro | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings AMDGPU Driver Support, QupZilla | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3Zf38b5NpL (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odod4 | Jan 04 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 15.12 Distro Brings AMDGPU Driver Support, QupZilla | Jan 04 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Can you use Free Software editors for more | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | than applying a pretty effects...?" | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pyGiL6V6Rh (www.ocsmag.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ododp | Jan 04 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | The Video Editing Challenge – Part II: Natron | OCS-Mag | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nfbx57he2i (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/t9BKTdCvNf (solus-project.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ododq | Jan 04 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #16 | Solus Project | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FZRJ1Mw2q5 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jan 04 10:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/z_eisberg/status/683955820518879232 | Jan 04 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@z_eisberg: RT @schestowitz "Can you use Free Software editors for more than applying a pretty effects...?" https://t.co/jwrbQa7fXs ... | Jan 04 10:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DanFreysinger/status/683958144255410177 | Jan 04 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DanFreysinger: @schestowitz Terrorism - the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. #OregonUnderAttack | Jan 04 10:31 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Regarding your Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card, I think I used to have one of those without the FM, and I don't remember what drivers it used, but now I have a higher-rez Avermedia card that uses the standard v4l video-for-Linux drivers. Have you looked at those? The FM might be included. | Jan 04 10:32 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AlrightRodders/status/683958730715693057 | Jan 04 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AlrightRodders: @DanFreysinger @schestowitz and yet they haven't fired or shot or taken a hostage or blown themselves up. They're just there. | Jan 04 10:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaiaLogic/status/683958807244988416 | Jan 04 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaiaLogic: @schestowitz You don't get to redefine a word because the truth makes you a terrorist sympathizer. | Jan 04 10:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaiaLogic/status/683958955656253440 | Jan 04 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaiaLogic: @schestowitz Definition includes threats to kill or maim, which they have done, for a political ideology = TERRORISTS. | Jan 04 10:32 | |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Police threaten to kill or maim every day for political ideologies like drug and tax laws. | Jan 04 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PDTCBOyde5 (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odofb | Jan 04 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines paldo GNU/Linux review https://t.co/spsdIkzuDZ | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (distrowatch.com) | Jan 04 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | msb_: they are a "special case" | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Clement Lefebvre https://t.co/FSBSkwHY6Y | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odofd | Jan 04 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, Says Clement Lefebvre | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | as if, you need a thug to battle thugs | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | the problem is, in the US esp., the balance was lost | Jan 04 10:36 |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Right -- "exceptionalism". | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and now the police are often as bad as the organised crime they fight | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | one might be better off paying tax money to vigilantes there, not PDs | Jan 04 10:37 |
| r_schestowitz | same thing, different uniform (if any) | Jan 04 10:37 |
| r_schestowitz | "undercover" police=vigilante | Jan 04 10:37 |
| r_schestowitz | TBH, police brutality here looks like a joke compared to the US | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | In the US over 1000 people were killed last year by police | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | here it would maybe be something like 0 | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | 10 | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | and they would quite likely be very special cases (not all of them) | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | !google raul moat | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northumbria_Police_manhunt | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 'Suffering' killer Raoul Moat had final heart-to-heart with notorious ... | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/suffering-killer-raoul-moat-final-5992458 | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - BBC News - Timeline of Raoul Moat shootings | http://www.bbc.com/news/10583120 | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Raoul Moat: Gazza arrives in Rothbury to 'offer his support' - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html | Jan 04 10:39 |
| r_schestowitz | " Paul Gascoigne, the former England international footballer, arrived in Rothbury on Friday night to offer his support to gunman Raoul Moat, who was in an armed stand-off with police. " | Jan 04 10:40 |
| r_schestowitz | I didn't know that... | Jan 04 10:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northumbria_Police_manhunt | Jan 04 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/odofs ] | Jan 04 10:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | "A major police operation took place in the summer of 2010 in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland, England, during which armed police officers under the command of the Northumbria Police force were deployed to apprehend Raoul Moat, a 37-year-old man from Newcastle upon Tyne who was on the run after shooting three people in two days. His victims were ex-girlfriend Samantha Stobbart, her new partner Chris Brown, and police officer David | Jan 04 10:41 |
| r_schestowitz | Rathband. " | Jan 04 10:41 |
| msb_ | According to an AP article today on this story, | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | "Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to peacefully report to | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge. | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | "Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | their property from wildfires. | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | "The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back | Jan 04 10:43 |
| msb_ | to prison for about four years each. | Jan 04 10:43 |
| msb_ | Even if those two guys fought the federal government in the courts and won it would probably be four years before they got out of prison. | Jan 04 10:44 |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has left #techrights | Jan 04 10:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking your Linux computer for a better | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | listening experience https://t.co/YQ7SeO7RVP | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) | Jan 04 10:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Hacking your Linux computer for a better listening experience | Opensource.com | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4-rc8 https://t.co/k5ocwnPSfI (lwn.net) | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BfPjKqxVDn (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odogg | Jan 04 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Linux 4.4-rc8 [LWN.net] | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.4-rc8 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/fVrTDtAxrS | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odogh | Jan 04 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| msb_ | The thing about democracy is that the voters can be made to vote for anything if the corporate media lie to them about long enough and consistently enough. Like the laws against utterly harmless cannabis, which have put millions of people in prison, sometimes for decades. | Jan 04 10:50 |
| msb_ | It's just like a dictatorship, but superficially it looks good. | Jan 04 10:52 |
| msb_ | about -> about it | Jan 04 10:53 |
| r_schestowitz | media is a cornerstone | Jan 04 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | or pillar | Jan 04 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | in the US corporations corrupted its autonomy | Jan 04 10:54 |
| msb_ | corporate media is a tombstone | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and it harms a great deal, e.g. when the most popular (by polls) candidate gets little air time | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | because he uses anti-wall street rhetoric | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and Wall Street has a grip on much of the media | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | see where CBS, Conde Nast, AP etc. are based | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | (their HQ, not their so-called 'reporters') | Jan 04 10:56 |
| msb_ | Apparently most Americans don't really think. They just absorb TV impressions and from opinions. | Jan 04 10:56 |
| msb_ | from -> form | Jan 04 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 https://t.co/hyOUyMVCUo | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odohr | Jan 04 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run Linux in your browser | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vUx38KkizE (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odohs | Jan 04 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | How to run Linux in your browser - TechzimTechzim | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ffHU5sp4Vv | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoht | Jan 04 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Wonderful promo about mainstream media for a news discussion program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7K7SaEgB7w | Jan 04 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Watching the Hawks: Questioning more than the mainstream media - YouTube | Jan 04 11:07 | |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights | Jan 04 11:38 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NewsCoverUp/status/683978165992185856 | Jan 04 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NewsCoverUp: @schestowitz Leaving #Windows is a matter of Life or Death by now Or will be very soon. | Jan 04 11:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | Digital death, yes... | Jan 04 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683980596759150593 | Jan 04 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz CNN that's the crony corp that ate #satcom | Jan 04 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4-rc8 https://t.co/jKA7MqDbMB | Jan 04 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odony | Jan 04 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4-rc8 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines paldo GNU/Linux https://t.co/cGXJwJw9jn | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odonz | Jan 04 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | paldo GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/oJFyWD3hRz | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoo0 | Jan 04 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 https://t.co/Xru4WjH7ta | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odoo1 | Jan 04 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr (blog.jolla.com) | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @M4rtinK https://t.co/WjaAj3OUb6 (linuxg.net) #nokia | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #finland #sailfishos | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odopx | Jan 04 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports GStreamer...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Jolla Cannot Ship Tablets To All Their Backers, But Will Reward The Unlucky Fans | LinuxG.net | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based #CalculateLinux 15.12 Distro Brings AMDGPU Driver Support,...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for Linux...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| XRevan86 | > linux-image-4.2.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64_4.2-3_amd64.deb 22-Sep-2015 | Jan 04 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | Siduction used to get new Linux releases in a day after it gets to kernel.org. | Jan 04 12:31 |
| XRevan86 | Then something happend. | Jan 04 12:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/683985179862515712 | Jan 04 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz to quote my husband: "'Home of the Brave'? Yeah, right." America, Home of the Terrified. | Jan 04 12:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux...' | Jan 04 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, | Jan 04 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop https://t.co/1lWrdmZX4V | Jan 04 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jan 04 12:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop | Techrights | Jan 04 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/PUiozosBGu | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/8zL6b777KW | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/qEWRZRAS0B | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/i9FLPrJaNx | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/r87OhS8pDz | Jan 04 12:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/k5emhqWQS9 | Jan 04 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) now with accurate Spanish | Jan 04 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | translations also | Jan 04 12:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop...' | Jan 04 12:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop...' | Jan 04 12:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/oJFyWD3hRz | Jan 04 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:57 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @elbekgt favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 14:10 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 14:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | all-in-one https://t.co/FEme6iscnd | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 all-in-one | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/llxy9LzGIp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mobile N5L phone no favors | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BeMwigltny (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu Mobile N5L phone no favors | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and open source have won, get over it | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HLhKT5rkkx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and open source have won, get over it | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Really Impressive https://t.co/8aXaO9viQT | Jan 04 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers Are Really Impressive | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/o7C05K6276 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four Years of Support for the Branch | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/k5emhqWQS9 | Jan 04 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) now with accurate Spanish | Jan 04 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz translations also | Jan 04 16:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks...' | Jan 04 16:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers Are Really Impressive...' | Jan 04 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/azXcoqvFaq | Jan 04 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jan 04 17:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 17:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Archos Introduce Power Line of Budget Android | Jan 04 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphones https://t.co/1xSLujjv2e | Jan 04 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidheadlines.com) | Jan 04 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Archos Introduce Power Line of Budget Android Smartphones | Androidheadlines.com | Jan 04 17:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | all-in-one https://t.co/NHhqgqp7o7 | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 04 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 all-in-one | ZDNet | Jan 04 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4rnLDZ4ync (betanews.com) | Jan 04 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mobile N5L phone no favors | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/W1V0UBMS7P (www.cnet.com) | Jan 04 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Nuu N5L Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET | Jan 04 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and open source have won, get over it | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NeqmTrhbdF (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 04 17:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linux and open source have won, get over it | ZDNet | Jan 04 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3sztX6MqB1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odpta | Jan 04 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | glorifying an evil person, in "progressive" site http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2016/01/04/3735721/zuckerberg-girl-nerds/ | Jan 04 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Woman Says She Encourages Her Granddaughters To 'Date The Nerd.' Mark Zuckerberg Has A Better Idea. | ThinkProgress | Jan 04 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/684067181026492417 | Jan 04 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: @schestowitz happy UEFI/ME on Acer & install libreboot on lenovo.. | Jan 04 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alegrasiempre/status/684069671600021504 | Jan 04 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alegrasiempre: @schestowitz terrible! | Jan 04 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944234 | Jan 04 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux and open source have won, get over it http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-and-open-source-have-won-get-over-it/ | Jan 04 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Except that personal computing is still largely proprietary for a majority of people. We still have a long way to go." | Jan 04 18:10 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks...' | Jan 04 18:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye | Jan 04 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LOUeupiMp4 (fossbytes.com) | Jan 04 18:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Why Linux-powered "World's Safest Drone" Fleye Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 18:24 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Why is Mark Zuckerberg considered evil? | Jan 04 18:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/684085437133107201 | Jan 04 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz More SMART devices meaning more surveillance? | Jan 04 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily, but potentially... | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | msb_: not as evil as some | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | But evil nonetheless | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | see this from days ago http://techrights.org/2016/01/01/facebook-basic-slavery/ | Jan 04 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mark[et] Zuckerberg’s ‘Free’ Basics Evokes Memory of Him Famously Saying “Facebook Users Are Dumb Fucks… I’m Going to Fuck Them, Probably in the Ear” | Techrights | Jan 04 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | sociopath | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | even when he was young | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | what kind of person would make statements like that about early adopters of his platform? | Jan 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | A sociopath | Jan 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Watch it getting worse as he gets older and richer | Jan 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | he already avoids tax using the same tricks as Billy | Jan 04 18:58 |
| oiaohm | Tax avoidance by large companies is standard prac not limited to any one company. | Jan 04 18:59 |
| schestowitz | doesn't make it any better | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | class crime | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | and need to end | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | some companies do it worse than others | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | and some countries are more welcoming and lenient than others | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Switzerland, Singapore, Cayman etc. | Jan 04 19:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: It's not clear what "free basic" means. Is he getting companies in India to advertise in f***book and thus avoiding taxes? Monsanto GMO is poisonous, but some stupid program??? | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the world's rich nations | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | even tiny Luxembourg | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Seems like it's main industry is shrinking tax liabilities, or helping companies steal from Europeans | Jan 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Lichtenstein... | Jan 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | msb_: read on it | Jan 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | been very big news this past 1-3 months | Jan 04 19:05 |
| msb_ | give me a specific page link | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | esp. in India | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | !google why facebook free basics is evil | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft slams Facebook's Free Basics initiative in India | Windows ... | http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-slams-facebooks-free-basics-initiative-india | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - India's Argument Over Facebook's Free Basics Heats Up: The ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/12/30/indias-argument-over-facebooks-free-basics-heats-up-the-economics-is-clear-here/ | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Facebook is Misleading Indians With its Full-page Ads About Free ... | http://thewire.in/2015/12/26/facebook-is-misleading-indians-with-its-full-page-ads-about-free-basics-17971/ | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Facebook Myths and the Facts about 'Free' Basics: Distortion Again ... | http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/facebook-myths-and-the-facts-about-free-basics-distortion-again-292590.html | Jan 04 19:05 |
| msb_ | facebook or free basic | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | lol, even MS complains | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | probably for some selfish reasons of Microsoft | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | msb_: it's not an "OR" | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Facebook pushes this crap | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | and ISPs pay | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Not Facebook | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | It's an attack on net neutrality | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Along the lines of "feeding the world's hungry" (motto/slogan for GMO propaganda in India, Africa) | Jan 04 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/i9FLPrJaNx | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 04 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 19:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RjACFQ5iBJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye Is Better Than Google Glass? | Tux Machines | Jan 04 19:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung to unveil new Tizen Smart Fridge with | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MASSIVE display at CES 2016 | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z5Untjl0Dh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung to unveil new Tizen Smart Fridge with MASSIVE display at CES 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 19:08 | |
| msb_ | So "free basic" is really "free basic internet access"? Selective and with ads? | Jan 04 19:10 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: So "free basic" is really "free basic internet access"? Selective and with ads? | Jan 04 19:11 |
| schestowitz | http://kevincarmony.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/michael-robertson-sues-me-to-impede-my.html | Jan 04 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevincarmony.blogspot.co.uk | Kevin Carmony's Blog: Michael Robertson Sues Me to Impede My Freedom of Speech on the Internet | Jan 04 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | remember Carmony? | Jan 04 19:20 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 04 19:20 |
| schestowitz | his blog is dead now | Jan 04 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/robert_reich_is_petitioning_the_dnc_for_more_presidential_debates_20160104/ | Jan 04 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | Robert Reich Is Petitioning the DNC for More Presidential Debates - Truthdig | Jan 04 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/cosby_20160103/ | Jan 04 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | Clay Bennett: Cosby - Clay Bennett - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/odqcf ] | Jan 04 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/developerangst/status/684098104749076481 | Jan 04 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@developerangst: @schestowitz who would want to copy it these days?! | Jan 04 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | People who always copied it because they disregarded ethics and laws anyway | Jan 04 19:48 |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=W-XOR-E-Firefox this is interesting. | Jan 04 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Write XOR Execute JIT Support Lands For Mozilla Firefox - Phoronix | Jan 04 19:49 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ok that free basic stuff is funny. Lot of countries run Man in Middle HTTPS interception. Now that a company like facebook wants to lets get upset. | Jan 04 19:51 |
| *amarsh04 just managed to get kwin 4:5.4.3-1.1 on Debian working again by applying https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126361/ | Jan 04 19:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.reviewboard.kde.org | Unblock signals in child processes | Review Request | Review Board [ http://ur1.ca/odqet ] | Jan 04 19:54 | |
| amarsh04 | there has been no activity in terms of new versions of KDE packages in Debian in the last month apparently | Jan 04 19:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/684101357972910081 | Jan 04 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz https://t.co/CezmHenj13 | Jan 04 20:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.democracynow.org | Democracy Now! | Jan 04 20:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944289 | Jan 04 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did #MinimumWage Increases Hurt Employment During the Great Recession? http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/did-minimum-wage-increases-hurt-employment-during-great-recession "the world is awash in minimum wage studies." | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | Did Minimum Wage Increases Hurt Employment During the Great Recession? | Mother Jones | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944625 | Jan 04 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passing #law to basically serve as made-up #protectionism using new words & virtual concepts, keeping the rich richer https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/684103425798307841 | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @ipwatchdog yes because without beliefs and corruption of politicians, virtual property does not exist! | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.1.5 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.15 Released | Jan 04 20:56 |
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| cubexyz | I think it's important to remember that Linux & BSD distros are aggregates | Jan 04 21:39 |
| cubexyz | massively so | Jan 04 21:39 |
| cubexyz | so if someone comes along with new stuff you don't like it shouldn't be too hard to avoid it | Jan 04 21:40 |
| cubexyz | it may be necessary to dig up old code or fork stuff | Jan 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: true | Jan 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | aggregates | Jan 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | some people use this term for patent pools | Jan 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | or trolls, the big ones, like RPX (cc zoobab ) | Jan 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944775 | Jan 04 21:46 |
| schestowitz | "They have back-ups, right?" | Jan 04 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EXCLUSIVE: Most of former NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly's emails deleted before he left #NYPD http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/raymond-kelly-deleted-emails-leaving-nypd-article-1.2482279 #police liars | Jan 04 21:46 | |
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| schestowitz | Don't give the dumb cops ideas... or they'll delete those TOO! :-) | Jan 04 21:46 |
| cubexyz | what do I see in new KDE? Words like "unperspicuity" :) | Jan 04 21:49 |
| cubexyz | or rather the description | Jan 04 21:49 |
| cubexyz | speaking of aggregates, akregator still works | Jan 04 22:00 |
| cubexyz | definitely faster than clicking on all the blogs | Jan 04 22:02 |
| cubexyz | in the switch to icewm sometimes one forgets all the good stuff in KDE 3.5 | Jan 04 22:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I find it interesting that X11 development is starting to slow. | Jan 04 22:04 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, care to elaborate or explain? | Jan 04 22:07 |
| cubexyz | does anyone even write xlib programs? :) | Jan 04 22:07 |
| cubexyz | see, my main problem with all the whiz-bang new stuff is it runs like a turd on old computers | Jan 04 22:09 |
| cubexyz | too fancy, too graphically intensive, etc | Jan 04 22:10 |
| cubexyz | so when some developer makes a new plasmoid thingamajig no one would even think of running it on a P3 or dare I say even older computer | Jan 04 22:12 |
| cubexyz | do we want slower less responsive computers? I don't think so | Jan 04 22:12 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XServer-2015-Statistics | Jan 04 22:25 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: its not that simple. P3 class cpu power exists in new hardware but its normally matched up with a more modern GPU. | Jan 04 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/684141552294342656 | Jan 04 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Perhaps they are not yet ready with their own spyware https://t.co/Mg255wOxK3 | Jan 04 22:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Still no signs of #lenovo preinstalling #gnu #linux or #bsd rather than the world's worst #malware and #spyware https://t.co/HKrUTByMzj | Jan 04 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | They should try Red Star | Jan 04 22:43 |
| knobby1234 | Roy - just a thought, but how about putting a wee bit more of a positive spin on things? How to make it better would be a good thing. Many years ago I did a degree in Innovation - Block 1 Chapter 2 - A European Patent if applied for is "bad for your wealth" was the basic crux of that 1st year. That was 15 years ago. Stop stating the obvious and start focusing on how to make sure SME's don't lose out. Am on your side really I a | Jan 04 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | > Also, you might like this. The EFF named Microsoft's design patent for a | Jan 05 00:23 |
| schestowitz | > slider as its Stupid Patent of the Month. | Jan 05 00:23 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider | Jan 05 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Patent of the Month: Microsoft’s Design Patent on a Slider | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/od2j3 ] | Jan 05 00:23 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Regarding your Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card, I think I used to have one of those without the FM, and I don't remember what drivers it used, but now I have a higher-rez Avermedia card that uses the standard v4l video-for-Linux drivers. Have you looked at those? The FM might be included. | Jan 05 00:26 |
| cubexyz | yeah I'm not sure where I put the card | Jan 05 00:32 |
| cubexyz | I know all about bttv etc | Jan 05 00:32 |
| cubexyz | when we took down the big VHF antenna I lost quite a lot of range | Jan 05 00:33 |
| cubexyz | well maybe there's something better, I need to research it | Jan 05 00:40 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, would a 4 terabyte hard drive work on the old BIOS? | Jan 05 00:44 |
| cubexyz | 32-bit sectors and all that | Jan 05 00:45 |
| cubexyz | RCA RP7887 superadio III is supposed to be a really good radio receiver | Jan 05 00:46 |
| cubexyz | not sure how good an idea it is putting the radio receiver inside a computer anyway | Jan 05 00:47 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/hard_drive_size_barriers.htm all kinds of different issues. | Jan 05 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dewassoc.com | Hard Drive Size Barriers, In Depth [ http://ur1.ca/odrhd ] | Jan 05 00:53 | |
| cubexyz | ok, I know that 80 gig will work | Jan 05 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you will notice older drives have faking modes. | Jan 05 00:55 |
| cubexyz | it's Linux ext2 on this box | Jan 05 00:56 |
| cubexyz | no FAT 32 limit | Jan 05 00:57 |
| oiaohm | bios can refuse to boot if the drive it sees is too large. | Jan 05 00:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes a bios equal to a kernel panic. | Jan 05 00:58 |
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| cubexyz | 2000 era award BIOS | Jan 05 01:03 |
| cubexyz | no idea if award is still around, maybe not | Jan 05 01:04 |
| cubexyz | guess I'll have another look at the BIOS | Jan 05 01:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: does the board have sata? | Jan 05 01:09 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, 2000? doubtful | Jan 05 01:10 |
| cubexyz | but i'll check | Jan 05 01:10 |
| cubexyz | no sata | Jan 05 01:11 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: sata is 2003 | Jan 05 01:11 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some old computers from 2000 had to have motherboard replacements due to bad caps. | Jan 05 01:11 |
| cubexyz | I got stuff even older than that | Jan 05 01:12 |
| cubexyz | 1998 and 1987 :) | Jan 05 01:12 |
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| cubexyz | BIOS mentions PIO 4 | Jan 05 01:13 |
| cubexyz | does that help me at all? | Jan 05 01:13 |
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| cubexyz | v6.00PG | Jan 05 01:13 |
| cubexyz | I think the Amiga can do 4 gig | Jan 05 01:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.ybet.be/en-hardware-1-10/hard-disk-ide.php#modehd | Jan 05 01:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ybet.be | Hard disk dive IDE and SATA | Jan 05 01:17 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: If it was after 2003 you can expect to take a 2tb drive or a 4tb drive with gpt partitions hidden behind a small mbr to make bios happy. | Jan 05 01:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: but something 2000 hit controller death at 137GB unless drive can lie that it smaller. | Jan 05 01:18 |
| cubexyz | ok, according to that web page I seem to be limited to 120 (137 gb) | Jan 05 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Its not exactly right. | Jan 05 01:19 |
| cubexyz | but if it's not the boot drive can't I fudge it? | Jan 05 01:20 |
| cubexyz | it's just for additional storage | Jan 05 01:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you would notice particular 1 and 2 tb drives have jumpers to provide a lie mode. | Jan 05 01:20 |
| oiaohm | So lie to be less than 137GB so bios works then OS goes larger. | Jan 05 01:21 |
| cubexyz | these web pages are very microsoft-centric | Jan 05 01:22 |
| oiaohm | I know. | Jan 05 01:22 |
| oiaohm | Linux has always been insanely tollerent to run over sized drives. | Jan 05 01:23 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't an external USB drive work though? | Jan 05 01:23 |
| cubexyz | doesn't have to boot | Jan 05 01:24 |
| cubexyz | ok, basically my question is: | Jan 05 01:25 |
| cubexyz | on a year 2000 computer running modern linux, would an external 2 terabyte hard drive work? | Jan 05 01:25 |
| cubexyz | only the USB controller needs to work right? | Jan 05 01:26 |
| cubexyz | I think ext2 handles 4 TB partition | Jan 05 01:29 |
| oiaohm | http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/other/2579-001037.pdf Hard drive lie. Particular harddrives have jumpers to limit to 2.1 GB, 8.4 GB, 32 GB, and 137 GB. | Jan 05 01:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes if the harddrive is on the USB controller it will work and in a lot of cases if you put a newer controller card in the drives will work as well. | Jan 05 01:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: just the motherboard controller is hating your guts. | Jan 05 01:31 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, any thoughts on which external usb hard drive is the best/most durable? | Jan 05 01:31 |
| oiaohm | Normally this case I would get a pci based sata controller. | Jan 05 01:32 |
| oiaohm | year 2000 usb is not that fast. | Jan 05 01:32 |
| cubexyz | I have a usb 2.0 card | Jan 05 01:32 |
| cubexyz | shouldn't be too bad | Jan 05 01:32 |
| oiaohm | 2.0 is still a snail compared to even a sata 1 card. | Jan 05 01:33 |
| cubexyz | ok, any thoughts on which sata card is the best? :) | Jan 05 01:34 |
| oiaohm | I normally don't work that much on old hardware. | Jan 05 01:34 |
| oiaohm | With external usb hard drives I go with the assemble self models. | Jan 05 01:34 |
| oiaohm | You know the ones where you by internal harddrive and fit it ourselves. | Jan 05 01:35 |
| cubexyz | all the burners might be SATA now, so an SATA PCI card sounds like a good idea for me | Jan 05 01:35 |
| oiaohm | Preassembled and self assembled usb harddrives suffer from the same set of problems. | Jan 05 01:35 |
| oiaohm | Only one catch self assembled usb harddrives are in fact design that you can get them open and push the plugs back into place. | Jan 05 01:36 |
| oiaohm | And opening self assemble is not breach waranity. | Jan 05 01:36 |
| cubexyz | good point | Jan 05 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Sata cards can act like old scsi cards so systems can still boot. | Jan 05 01:37 |
| oiaohm | To be truthful I have not found a single brand of preassembled external usb harddrives I would recommend. | Jan 05 01:39 |
| cubexyz | yeah that doesn't surprise me | Jan 05 01:39 |
| cubexyz | I've seen tons of dead ones | Jan 05 01:39 |
| oiaohm | Reality is most are not dead. | Jan 05 01:40 |
| cubexyz | the enclosure dies, the hard drive is OK | Jan 05 01:40 |
| oiaohm | Most its break them open push the usb interface back on to drive and magically they come back. | Jan 05 01:40 |
| oiaohm | Basically the enclosure is not even dead. | Jan 05 01:40 |
| cubexyz | I've seen them corrupt data | Jan 05 01:41 |
| oiaohm | In most cases. | Jan 05 01:41 |
| cubexyz | that's dead enough | Jan 05 01:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, so I want a good SATA PCI card | Jan 05 01:41 |
| oiaohm | dislodged connection between usb to sata to sata of drive inside preassembled or self assembled from time to time cause corrupt data. | Jan 05 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes a percentage the harddrive have died. | Jan 05 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Basically its 70 percent the connection between the usb to sata control to drive. | Jan 05 01:43 |
| oiaohm | 30 percent the drive has not like the impact of hitting floor while running. | Jan 05 01:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its so wasteful how many perfectly good harddrives are thrown out in preassmebled usb harddrives. | Jan 05 01:44 |
| cubexyz | just remove the drive from the enclosure :) | Jan 05 01:45 |
| cubexyz | what, do they glue them together or something? | Jan 05 01:45 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the brand. | Jan 05 01:45 |
| oiaohm | The worst is plastic welded | Jan 05 01:46 |
| oiaohm | No seam or weak point in the plastic casing and the welding process has in fact glued the plastic case to drive. | Jan 05 01:46 |
| oiaohm | The best is just know where to shove screw driver and they open. | Jan 05 01:47 |
| cubexyz | I see PCI SATA/IDE combo cards | Jan 05 01:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course self assemble is the simplest. Just undo as per manual no risk to hands. Yes getting some of the preassembled open risks hurting self. | Jan 05 01:49 |
| cubexyz | 2 x SATA 150 + 1 ATA 133 | Jan 05 01:51 |
| oiaohm | That 2003 hardware. | Jan 05 01:52 |
| cubexyz | for older computer :) | Jan 05 01:52 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: some radio stations stream their output over the Net. You can tune in stations all over the world without any special equipment. Just google the statiion call letters. | Jan 05 01:54 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: look at their schedule on their website and see when they're broadcasting classical music (or whatever you want). Make a little database in a text file and access it with a bash script. | Jan 05 01:59 |
| cubexyz | msb_, yeah I do that already | Jan 05 02:00 |
| msb_ | ok I shouldn't try to teach my grandmother how to suck eggs 8^) | Jan 05 02:01 |
| cubexyz | xmms is streaming swiss classics right now :) | Jan 05 02:01 |
| cubexyz | on my systemd free openbsd box | Jan 05 02:01 |
| msb_ | I didn't know that xmms could access the Net. | Jan 05 02:02 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 05 02:02 |
| cubexyz | there's a plugin for that | Jan 05 02:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xmms.ext.txt | Jan 05 02:03 |
| msb_ | what's the URL you're listening to? | Jan 05 02:04 |
| cubexyz | I just posted it | Jan 05 02:04 |
| cubexyz | http://stream.srg-ssr.ch/m/rsc_de/mp3_128 | Jan 05 02:04 |
| cubexyz | I'm fond of Scarlatti :) | Jan 05 02:05 |
| cubexyz | Trelane plays K 450 | Jan 05 02:06 |
| msb_ | mplayer works too | Jan 05 02:06 |
| cubexyz | I think it's K 450 | Jan 05 02:06 |
| cubexyz | also Johann Strauss | Jan 05 02:06 |
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| msb_ | what is K450? | Jan 05 02:07 |
| cubexyz | it's a piece for harpsichord, keyboard sonata in G minor... K.XXX is the numbering system he used | Jan 05 02:08 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure you'll recognize it :) | Jan 05 02:09 |
| msb_ | This music is very restful. I think it's from before sex was invented. | Jan 05 02:10 |
| msb_ | Usually I listen to rock from 50s to 80s. | Jan 05 02:10 |
| msb_ | Is there a listing of streaming radio stations somewhere? | Jan 05 02:11 |
| cubexyz | https://www.internet-radio.com | Jan 05 02:12 |
| msb_ | Wow thanks! | Jan 05 02:13 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_radio_stations | Jan 05 02:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bill-haley-edison-hotel.jpg | Jan 05 02:24 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bill-haley-cool-suit.jpg | Jan 05 02:29 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 05 02:29 |
| msb_ | firefox says errors on the second one | Jan 05 02:33 |
| msb_ | anyhow, I guess we don't need an antenna until after the apocalypse -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMAGT-3wx4 | Jan 05 02:33 |
| cubexyz | ok, try it now | Jan 05 02:34 |
| msb_ | Wow, knock your eyes out! | Jan 05 02:34 |
| msb_ | I made a bookmark for SRG and Firefox brings it in! | Jan 05 02:42 |
| msb_ | Is K 450 Mozart? | Jan 05 02:49 |
| cubexyz | Scarlatti | Jan 05 02:49 |
| cubexyz | Mozart came afterwards | Jan 05 02:51 |
| cubexyz | Domenico Scarlatti to be precise | Jan 05 02:53 |
| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w17tOpuRdrI but it is not familiar to me | Jan 05 02:53 |
| cubexyz | might have been K 159 actually | Jan 05 02:54 |
| cubexyz | for some reason I was thinking about K 450 | Jan 05 02:54 |
| cubexyz | ah, it's both actually | Jan 05 02:55 |
| cubexyz | glad my memory isn't completely wrong | Jan 05 02:55 |
| cubexyz | Trelane makes Uhura play "Roses from the South" | Jan 05 02:56 |
| cubexyz | that's Johann Strauss number 2 | Jan 05 02:56 |
| schestowitz | why use radio? lots of ads, and 'news' | Jan 05 03:00 |
| schestowitz | You can get lots of stuff for free, and legally | Jan 05 03:00 |
| schestowitz | even long compilations, like 3 hours long | Jan 05 03:01 |
| schestowitz | so that you don't need to know what exactly to browse for | Jan 05 03:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944878 | Jan 05 03:02 |
| schestowitz | "divide and rule." | Jan 05 03:02 |
| schestowitz | bot down? | Jan 05 03:02 |
| cubexyz | internet doesn't always work, it's mainly a backup source | Jan 05 03:02 |
| schestowitz | weird | Jan 05 03:03 |
| cubexyz | also for exercising... a portable music source when hiking or whatever away from the computer | Jan 05 03:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944878 | Jan 05 03:04 |
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| schestowitz | test https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944878 | Jan 05 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Automobile Fragmentation Problem.. The Colour Fragmentation Problem.. The Political Parties Fragmentation Problem.. When more is "bad"? | Jan 05 03:04 | |
| cubexyz | also if I'm downloading and using close to 100% of my bandwidth radio will still work | Jan 05 03:04 |
| schestowitz | OK... | Jan 05 03:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung’s Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, | Jan 05 03:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | too https://t.co/NNc9JLTpit | Jan 05 03:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung’s Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, too | Tux Machines | Jan 05 03:08 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD Ships with Newer OpenRC Version | Tux Machines | Jan 05 03:08 | |
| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQAEUA9jGs | Jan 05 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | E. Power Biggs - Toccata (5th Symphony) Widor - YouTube | Jan 05 03:19 | |
| msb_ | pardon the initial vinyl scratches, it's the only one I could find | Jan 05 03:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/684213509211709440 | Jan 05 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Come on @schestowitz, do you really consider #design patents to be a subclass of #softwarepatents? https://t.co/PN7lffLXKC #swpats | Jan 05 03:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Design Patents (e.g. Sliders) Are Becoming as Much of a Problem as Software Patents | Techrights | Jan 05 03:26 | |
| schestowitz | In this case (sliders), yes.... | Jan 05 03:26 |
| cubexyz | 45 rpm? | Jan 05 03:29 |
| cubexyz | didn't know he played harpsichord as well | Jan 05 03:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agodidactica/status/684215841697710080 | Jan 05 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agodidactica: RT @schestowitz #Microsoft Got Hacked And Didn't Tell Anyone https://t.co/aVnkfBoM6v ... | Jan 05 03:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/01/microsoft-got-hacked-and-didnt-tell-anyon ) | Jan 05 03:34 | |
| cubexyz | this is the one that reminds me of Trelane the most: | Jan 05 03:34 |
| cubexyz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aydlQ_jCrQ | Jan 05 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Domenico Scarlatti, Sonata in c major, K. 159 - YouTube | Jan 05 03:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com | Tribute to Debian Founder, Ian Murdock | Unixmen | Jan 05 04:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Review: Bound By Flame on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 05 04:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung’s Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, | Jan 05 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Samsung's Tizen Smart TVs now do home control, too · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 05 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD | Jan 05 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ships with Newer OpenRC Version | Jan 05 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | SystemRescueCd 4.7.0 System Recovery Live CD Ships with Newer OpenRC Version | Jan 05 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Kylin 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Alpha 1 | Jan 05 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lands for Chinese Users with Many Fixes | Jan 05 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Kylin 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Alpha 1 Lands for Chinese Users with Many Fixes | Jan 05 04:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 05 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based DebEX KDE Linux OS Ships with KDE 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 05 04:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, | Jan 05 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, Finally Moves to Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 05 04:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Receives Major Web Browser | Jan 05 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | App with Convergence Features | Jan 05 04:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Receives Major Web Browser App with Convergence Features | Jan 05 04:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 16.04 Is Sticking To GTK2-Based LXDE | Jan 05 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rather Than LXQt https://t.co/B67K0GipcU | Jan 05 05:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lubuntu 16.04 Is Sticking To GTK2-Based LXDE Rather Than LXQt - Phoronix | Jan 05 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 'Xenial Xerus' Alpha 1, Kylin 16.04 | Jan 05 05:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 'Xenial Xerus' Alpha 1, Kylin 16.04 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based DebEX KDE Linux OS Ships with KDE | Jan 05 05:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 05 05:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based DebEX KDE Linux OS Ships with KDE 4.14.2 and KDE Plasma 5, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 05:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, | Jan 05 05:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux Gets Its First ISO Image for 2016, Finally Moves to Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 05:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ltNI8TgYfK | Jan 05 05:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 05 05:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm. Watching some import discs. Apparently, the American versions of the Harry Potter movies were more censored than the British versions. | Jan 05 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | I certainly don't remember a dead cat hanging by the message written in blood. | Jan 05 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | The film rating system here is just awful. | Jan 05 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the big budget movies try to get PG-13, which basically means you can kill as many people as you want to, but you can't say "fuck". | Jan 05 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/839-the-ongoing-failure-of-the-pg-13-rating/ | Jan 05 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissolve.com | The ongoing failure of the PG-13 rating / The Dissolve | Jan 05 05:35 | |
| DaemonFC | The blu ray disc cases seem to be sturdier than the ones we have here too. | Jan 05 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's barely any plastic in ours. Just enough to protect the disc. They even cut out a bunch of it and expose the paper with the box art. :P | Jan 05 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the discs say "For rental or resale" and others say "Not for rental". | Jan 05 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | In the US, they can't control what you do with the disc once you buy it, but buying them through the retail channel is more expensive. | Jan 05 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | They have rental discs though where it's the same movie, but all the special features have been removed and clicking on them says "If you want to view the special features, you must buy a retail version of this disc.". I buy off-rental discs all the time. No special features is fine by me for most movies. | Jan 05 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | Redbox ended up in a situation for a while where the major studios refused to sell them rental discs, so they had to go buy discs off the shelf to fill the vending machines in the meantime. | Jan 05 05:42 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6945206 | Jan 05 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BleachBit 1.10 Open Source System Cleaner Has Linux and Firefox Improvements http://news.softpedia.com/news/bleachbit-1-10-open-source-system-cleaner-has-windows-10-and-firefox-improvements-498422.shtml | Jan 05 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | BleachBit 1.10 Open Source System Cleaner Has Linux, Windows 10 and Firefox Improvements | Jan 05 06:16 | |
| schestowitz | "don’t leave home without it!" | Jan 05 06:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/684259177229848576 | Jan 05 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Американский Беркут. Протестующих сожгли заживо? Может нуна* полицейское партнерство с США? @MGongadze https://t.co/lsGdeAcOLj | Jan 05 06:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Here’s What Happened When Black People Tried Armed Occupation https://t.co/1Tt9eyaWsg "MOVE were bombed and burned alive" | Jan 05 06:26 | |
| cubexyz | does bleachbit delete windows 10? | Jan 05 06:36 |
| cubexyz | because I don't see how you can bleach windows | Jan 05 06:36 |
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| cubexyz | what is it about an operating system that has to have stuff like anti-virus, disksweeper, registry cleaner, etc etc etc | Jan 05 06:38 |
| cubexyz | if windows was a good operating system it wouldn't need all that extra stuff | Jan 05 06:39 |
| cubexyz | oh and bleachbit of course | Jan 05 06:39 |
| cubexyz | it's all marketing BS | Jan 05 06:41 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, I forgot windows activation | Jan 05 06:42 |
| cubexyz | yes, I'd say we've reached the tipping point for microsoft | Jan 05 06:42 |
| cubexyz | the do-it-for-me-I'm-too-stupid mentality has to go | Jan 05 06:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Jan 05 06:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Jan 05 06:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Jan 05 06:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa - A wilted flower | Tux Machines | Jan 05 06:44 | |
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| cubexyz | no new relevations about Murdock? | Jan 05 06:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some stuff of Windows has Linux equals. https://packages.debian.org/stretch/cruft for example is doing lot of the same thing as registery cleaners attempt. | Jan 05 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://packages.debian.org/stretch/cruft ) | Jan 05 07:43 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course cruft in fact works fairly safely due to debian better information on what should be currently installed. | Jan 05 07:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so that extra stuff arugement is not exactly right. Lot of the reasons the extra stuff cannot work properly is Windows installation process. | Jan 05 07:44 |
| cubexyz | what cruft? | Jan 05 07:58 |
| cubexyz | stuff in /tmp ? | Jan 05 07:58 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft hunts down left behind configuration files in /etc and other generated left behind files in /usr and other places like that. | Jan 05 08:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fairly much registery cleaner/system cleaner under windows. But those cleaners under windows don't have a good white list to look at for what should be present and this is why they break systems so much. | Jan 05 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for | Jan 05 08:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 05 08:13 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the secret to android resistance is 1 a google provide like anti-virus thing that can fall back on a great whitelist of what file should be installed. | Jan 05 08:14 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, back in may 2004 I installed FC1 | Jan 05 08:34 |
| cubexyz | now I admit, I've augmented it a lot | Jan 05 08:34 |
| cubexyz | but it's basically still FC1 | Jan 05 08:34 |
| cubexyz | in all that time I've never used "cruft" or any cleaner | Jan 05 08:35 |
| cubexyz | that's not just a machine connected to the net either, it's a web server | Jan 05 08:36 |
| cubexyz | since before Firefox 1.0 :) | Jan 05 08:37 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/desktop/old-desktop-2005.png | Jan 05 08:39 |
| cubexyz | that's what it used to look like | Jan 05 08:39 |
| cubexyz | there was one thing which I never really understood though | Jan 05 08:42 |
| cubexyz | kio_http_cache_cleaner | Jan 05 08:42 |
| cubexyz | I think it's a konqueror thing, but I never use konqueror on that box | Jan 05 08:43 |
| cubexyz | the zaurus is 2002 | Jan 05 08:47 |
| cubexyz | I remember windows users doing the "yearly reload" as a matter of course | Jan 05 08:48 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it may be possible that registry cleaners and the like are merely snake oil for the unwary | Jan 05 08:54 |
| cubexyz | they used to sell XP systems with 128 megs of ram | Jan 05 08:57 |
| cubexyz | so XP "evolved" to need more memory, hence degraded performance | Jan 05 08:57 |
| cubexyz | exactly why it ends up so slow I'm not sure, but I've seen it continuously hit the hard drive when nothing seemed to be running | Jan 05 08:58 |
| cubexyz | make the core install read-only I guess | Jan 05 08:59 |
| cubexyz | I mean the BIOS is pretty durable | Jan 05 09:02 |
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| msb_ | Here's my windows experience. A neighbor wanted me to pick out a good computer for him, so I found him a great laptop (Toshiba maybe) and was going to put Linux on it , and I could even administer it remotely from my house. But his friend, who's a lawyer, told him that Linux was very hard to use. So he bought a computer with windows on it. Now it requires so many passwords that he doesn't know how to use it anymore, so he doesn't | Jan 05 09:07 |
| msb_ | use a computer at all. | Jan 05 09:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have had to use a cruft cleaner on debian. But it was after the install was 12 years old and I had installed and unstalled about half of the debian repository system over the time. | Jan 05 09:08 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and cruft did remove 4G of lost files. | Jan 05 09:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: windows haveing to reinstall every 12 months is normally gamers and other doing lots of installation and collective failures to uninstall properly and track what files/registry enteries should exist. | Jan 05 09:10 |
| msb_ | I remember when the standard way to fix anything in windows was to reinstall it. That was the rule in some company I was programming in. | Jan 05 09:12 |
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| amarsh04 | I have done that manually in aptitude oiaohm | Jan 05 09:12 |
| amarsh04 | searching for packages removed but not purged | Jan 05 09:12 |
| amarsh04 | this Debian installation is over 11 years old and not reinstalled, just copied to newer hardware and upgraded | Jan 05 09:13 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: running cruft finds files in /usr and like that the file is for some reason not listed in the package database any more or a file of a package has been deleted. | Jan 05 09:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft - Check the filesystem for cruft (missing and unexplained files) << crufts job. | Jan 05 09:14 |
| amarsh04 | ah ok, thanks | Jan 05 09:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: attempt doing it cruft under Windows you are kinda up the creek due to no proper installation database. | Jan 05 09:15 |
| oiaohm | registery cleaners and system cleaners are basically attempting to wild guess perform cruft. | Jan 05 09:15 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is another tool like cruft for rpm based distrobutions. | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | but really there is no cruft on FC1 | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | I only install stuff I want from source | Jan 05 09:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fedora is rpm and cruft only works with deb. | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | the FC1 repo stopped working ages ago | Jan 05 09:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a different cleaner for rpm based. | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | ugh, ok that's not what I meant :) | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | I meant crufty stuff that must be removed that accumulates over time | Jan 05 09:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and taht is what cruft does for debian systems. | Jan 05 09:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct deb based systems. | Jan 05 09:17 |
| msb_ | No way am I gonna have some program delete files that _it_ thinks shouldn't be there. Sometimes I install programs manually because they aren't in the repo. | Jan 05 09:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if you manannly install properly you tell cruft with --ignore to leave particular directories alone. | Jan 05 09:19 |
| cubexyz | what is the rpm cleaner called? | Jan 05 09:19 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: So all I have to do is _remember_ all the stuff I've manually installed over the last four years? | Jan 05 09:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: don't you use the same prefix for it all like /usr/local. | Jan 05 09:20 |
| msb_ | Who knows? | Jan 05 09:20 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, no | Jan 05 09:20 |
| cubexyz | there's /opt for one | Jan 05 09:20 |
| cubexyz | probably other ones | Jan 05 09:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: /opt and /usr/local is the only 2 places by FHS where user build packages not in package format should be. | Jan 05 09:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: ok other than own home directory. | Jan 05 09:21 |
| cubexyz | /home/usr/ ? | Jan 05 09:21 |
| cubexyz | ok :) | Jan 05 09:21 |
| oiaohm | cruft does not go through home directories. | Jan 05 09:21 |
| msb_ | My system partition is 40GB of which 32GB is used. That's trivial compared to all the other stuff on my 8TB of disks. | Jan 05 09:22 |
| cubexyz | /var can get big | Jan 05 09:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft is not a log cleaner either. | Jan 05 09:23 |
| cubexyz | I had this idea for operating systems and I'm not sure if any OS actually does it | Jan 05 09:23 |
| cubexyz | ok my idea was have two memory systems, one for OS and one for applications | Jan 05 09:23 |
| oiaohm | /var is not something cruft works on. | Jan 05 09:23 |
| cubexyz | so the OS should _never_ run out of memory, only applications | Jan 05 09:24 |
| amarsh04 | undoing an apt-get build-dep basically depends on you saving the list of package names installed by it then echoing the list to xargs dpkg -P | Jan 05 09:24 |
| oiaohm | Under debian you screw up and incorrectly install a source package into /usr instead of /opt or /usr/local you run cruft and debsums and it will locate all files you have hit. | Jan 05 09:24 |
| cubexyz | you could snapshot your drive(s) just before you install something | Jan 05 09:25 |
| cubexyz | I admit it would be quite a bit of work | Jan 05 09:25 |
| oiaohm | Also debsums will unearth cases of binarys being damaged due to bad ram/drive. | Jan 05 09:26 |
| amarsh04 | I've sometimes thought it would be good to have something that could give you a recipie to install packages from scratch and add customised configuration file settings | Jan 05 09:26 |
| msb_ | Mostly I install stuff into my account, to be sure it won't screw up something "legitimately" installed. | Jan 05 09:26 |
| oiaohm | basically debian has lots of tools to audit the system and locate defects. | Jan 05 09:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: exactly most people use to Linux install in 1 of 3 locations /opt /usr/local or /home | Jan 05 09:27 |
| amarsh04 | that would have the disadvantage that configuration file settings change meaning with different versions of packages, so would depend on having back-up copies of versions of any packages no longer in Debian | Jan 05 09:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that if it not from the package manager. | Jan 05 09:28 |
| amarsh04 | cruft has been running for 10 minutes so far on this machine | Jan 05 09:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft is not a fast running program. can take about 12 to 14 hours on a large install. | Jan 05 09:29 |
| amarsh04 | wow | Jan 05 09:29 |
| oiaohm | and most likely you wanted to run it with the -r REPORTFILE option. | Jan 05 09:30 |
| oiaohm | so it does not just report to the console. | Jan 05 09:30 |
| oiaohm | cruft it self does not delete anything automatically just produces a report of what it finds wrong. | Jan 05 09:31 |
| amarsh04 | it would have been good if they put that in the description or at the start of the manual page | Jan 05 09:32 |
| cubexyz | I wrote a df-check thing: | Jan 05 09:32 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/df-check.sh.txt | Jan 05 09:32 |
| amarsh04 | I'm still annoyed that the blkid command doesn't show if you do a man -k uuid | Jan 05 09:32 |
| msb_ | I'm an old hippy hacker (in the good sense). If I want to find something on my system I just use "locate" (actually locgrep). | Jan 05 09:32 |
| amarsh04 | mlocate in use here | Jan 05 09:33 |
| amarsh04 | this installation was initially on a machine with 48 MiB RAM, so things needed to be lightweight (ran twm) | Jan 05 09:35 |
| amarsh04 | but my first unix installation was with 16 MiB RAM | Jan 05 09:35 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft man page is kinda upside down. "CRUFT_DEBUG=1 cruft -r report.txt" is the way I normally run cruft yes anything it finds goes to report.txt and CRUFT_DEBUG=1 makes it tell you want scan its currently running. | Jan 05 09:36 |
| amarsh04 | thanks, I'll try those options oiaohm | Jan 05 09:37 |
| cubexyz | don't package managers have a clean thing built-in? | Jan 05 09:37 |
| cubexyz | there was 'yum clean' | Jan 05 09:38 |
| amarsh04 | yes, but Debian doesn't remove customised configuration files unless purge is specified | Jan 05 09:38 |
| amarsh04 | so if you have to temporarily remove a package, customised settings are retained unless you purge | Jan 05 09:39 |
| amarsh04 | back later, getting dinner | Jan 05 09:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yum clean only purges files that it knows about by the package list. cruft is for fiind miss configrations of some user stuff like opps you deleted /var/mail/user so now you are not getting system reports. And finding files the package manager no longer knows about. | Jan 05 09:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so clean up and basic health check. | Jan 05 09:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the basic idea sounds good | Jan 05 09:59 |
| cubexyz | I wrote a checker for sensitive files | Jan 05 09:59 |
| cubexyz | checks certain files for tampering | Jan 05 10:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the basic idea is the same idea as a registery cleaner or system cleaner under Windows. Difference is cruft is not guessing what should and should not be there due to the package installation system have list of files that should be on the system. | Jan 05 10:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: registery cleaners and system cleaners screw up windows due to lack of information and attempting to guess. | Jan 05 10:04 |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: also I forgot to mention cruft does report some stuff that is harmless. Like pyc precomplier built files. | Jan 05 11:27 |
| amarsh04 | oh, thanks oiaohm | Jan 05 11:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: but it does work as a good location of all files that are not system tracked. | Jan 05 11:28 |
| amarsh04 | 30 megabyte report.txt here | Jan 05 11:29 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: under 5 meg is normal. I would suspect your system has collected some cruft. | Jan 05 11:31 |
| amarsh04 | yes, filtering things out at the moment | Jan 05 11:40 |
| amarsh04 | filtered report file is 1.3 MiB | Jan 05 11:49 |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: basically cruft is not a task need to be run often but for us who have installs that last over 10 years its kinda a good idea to run it. | Jan 05 11:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: The Secret’s Out! Agreed text of the EU Trade Secrets Directive now available [ http://ur1.ca/odtis ] | Jan 05 15:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtjd | Jan 05 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 05 15:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/plfKliQY8A' | Jan 05 15:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/684396582641467394 | Jan 05 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz hm, 2nd time works. Thanks | Jan 05 15:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Posts Longer Tribute In Honor Of Its | Jan 05 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Founder https://t.co/2LSP2Lv0NW | Jan 05 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtk3 | Jan 05 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Posts Longer Tribute In Honor Of Its Founder - Phoronix | Jan 05 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Primary Selection Support Still Being Worked On | Jan 05 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Wayland https://t.co/AhMoTsIrrY | Jan 05 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkt | Jan 05 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Primary Selection Support Still Being Worked On For Wayland - Phoronix | Jan 05 15:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/292VtX5xvj (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtku | Jan 05 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 - Phoronix | Jan 05 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GCpVwHQa70 (www.linux.com) | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkw | Jan 05 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Linux.com | Jan 05 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released! https://t.co/Evkh4xLsce | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.blacklablinux.org) | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkx | Jan 05 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been released! | Jan 05 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 Scorpion, testing | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cA0M0CKZsn (q4os.org) | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtne | Jan 05 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating system | Jan 05 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hand of Fate is a brilliant game, you should | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | really give it a go on Linux & SteamOS | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3wW3CEUaoh (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtnf | Jan 05 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Hand of Fate is a brilliant game, you should really give it a go on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Jan 05 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ogD2WOWJdl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtng | Jan 05 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684406485753966592 | Jan 05 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: .@bastianbest @schestowitz Plus: It's not a patent on a UI but on dividing image streams from an endoscopic camera. | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684406651789651970 https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684407284848553985 https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684407625786765313 | Jan 05 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: @schestowitz I do not fully concur with @bastianbest 's interpretation of that decision. | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: @bastianbest @schestowitz Please also note recent BGH decisions nullifying somewhat similar patents: e.g. Fahrzeugsnavigationsystem | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: .@bastianbest @schestowitz IMHO the BGH has developed a very finely tuned case law on the question of "software as such" | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released! https://t.co/fcRAcdLp8k | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu00 | Jan 05 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been released! | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Announces new Smart TV User Experience | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Tizen Smart Remote Control | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cBbDbySwB2 (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 05 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu01 | Jan 05 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Announces new Smart TV User Experience and Tizen Smart Remote Control - Tizen Experts | Jan 05 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Toast raises $30 million for Android-powered | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | point-of-sale system to challenge Square | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tMK7309jzZ (venturebeat.com) | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2q | Jan 05 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venturebeat.com | Toast raises $30 million for Android-powered point-of-sale system to challenge Square | VentureBeat | Commerce | by Ken Yeung | Jan 05 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alcatel OneTouch Pixi 4 hands-on | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HOYfHeziTu | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2r | Jan 05 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Alcatel OneTouch Pixi 4 hands-on - Android Authority | Jan 05 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/vCy1ScECGH | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2s | Jan 05 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By Default - Phoronix | Jan 05 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This $99 Android box streams PC games to your | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TV with open-source Nvidia Shield tech | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oF3BMECVWi (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WXVF4XUdmr | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.virtual-strategy.com) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | This $99 Android box streams PC games to your TV with open-source Nvidia Shield tech | PCWorld | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2t | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.virtual-strategy.com | EMTEC Unveils GEM (Game * Entertainment * Multimedia) Box at CES 2016 with PC Library and GameFly Streaming | Virtual-Strategy Magazine | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and robustness https://t.co/UACI9wEGOP | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2u | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability and robustness | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSS Databases vs Oracle https://t.co/9Gyy5Hl5Gh | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2v | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Databases vs Oracle | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/eh63wg2xm6 | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2w | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/684440315512631303 | Jan 05 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: @schestowitz There's a range of views about UPC among officials, industry & practitioners. But it is happening so people need to be prepared | Jan 05 18:52 | |
| schestowitz | People, as in not corporations, need to fight back | Jan 05 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/caNC0e4Cv6 | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odudc | Jan 05 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By Default | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Voice of the masses: 2015 was the year of Linux | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and open source software. What next? | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/g2an1Yksa8 (www.linuxvoice.com) | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odudd | Jan 05 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/voice-of-the-masses-2015-was-the-year-of-linux-and-open-source-software-what-next/ ) | Jan 05 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and robustness https://t.co/FPaEF304VL | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blogs.gnome.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugi | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2016/01/05/fedora-workstation-and-the-quest-for-stability-and-robustness/ ) | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 have been | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released https://t.co/sAP2FNZWKR | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.wine-reviews.net) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugj | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wine-reviews.net | Wine Reviews : PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 have been released | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Voice of the masses: 2015 was the year of Linux | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by and open source software. What next? | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @JVVLucien https://t.co/g2an1Yksa8 (www.linuxvoice.com) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugk | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/BaCV61Of93 | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugl | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Hj2h0rwL09 | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugm | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software Releases | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/N3QOhPUQRA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugp | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software Releases | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:35 | |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~roy@host86-136-252-39.range86-136.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Jan 05 19:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | Chrome IRC has to be the worst IRC client ever. | Jan 05 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have Chatzilla. | Jan 05 19:48 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure mirc is worse | Jan 05 19:57 |
| MinceR | and comic chat is worse than that | Jan 05 19:57 |
| schestowitz | is that a proprietary one? | Jan 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | comic? | Jan 05 19:58 |
| MinceR | yup | Jan 05 20:00 |
| MinceR | m$'s own | Jan 05 20:00 |
| MinceR | one of their two attempts to ruin irc | Jan 05 20:00 |
| schestowitz | MS IRC would be funny | Jan 05 20:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe some Word document icons | Jan 05 20:19 |
| schestowitz | to send attachments to each other | Jan 05 20:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Desktop GNU/Linux https://t.co/epyssd3bj9 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus0 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Internet of Things https://t.co/pLnNeyNus6 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus1 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for the Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 45 minutes https://t.co/RVAbDDEaaJ | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus2 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for 45 minutes | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Internet of Things https://t.co/siGurHhfzi | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.xda-developers.com) | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutd | Jan 05 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for the Internet of Things | Jan 05 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 45 minutes https://t.co/5P0y2tZwLx | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutf | Jan 05 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for 45 minutes · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 05 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Alpine Linux-based LiveCD with OpenVZ | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kernel / tools https://t.co/VexOGanwvn | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.montanalinux.org) | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutg | Jan 05 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Alpine Linux-based LiveCD with OpenVZ kernel / tools | MontanaLinux.org | Jan 05 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/684492193566871552 | Jan 05 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz There was tremendous silliness in extending IP protection 2 trivial & common ideas: Windows, Clouds... https://t.co/kmFKCNcWNO | Jan 05 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz There was tremendous silliness in extending IP protection 2 trivial & common ideas: Windows, Clouds... https://t.co/kmFKCNcWNO | Jan 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show Nvidia | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DriveWorks https://t.co/kHtK0kPVlW | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv0m | Jan 05 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show Nvidia DriveWorks | Jan 05 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Aptoide Lands $4M To Grow Its Alternative | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android App Store In Emerging Markets | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LYx7tsqExI (techcrunch.com) | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv0n | Jan 05 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Aptoide Lands $4M To Grow Its Alternative Android App Store In Emerging Markets | TechCrunch | Jan 05 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/684503439318085632 | Jan 05 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: Oh, I "trick examiners into granting patents on software" https://t.co/BK2Z0hHmBg If it only was so easy *sigh* | Jan 05 22:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | EPO Coverage to Increase in 2016, Including UPC Reality Checks | Techrights | Jan 05 22:39 | |
| schestowitz | lawyers in every domain have their set of tricks for getting their way | Jan 05 22:39 |
| schestowitz | this is, in essence, why many lawyers getting away with changing so much for so little. | Jan 05 22:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show...' | Jan 05 22:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Budgie 16.01 Edition Now in | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing, Ships with Budgie Desktop 10.2.2 | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lD1H3XpqA1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3p | Jan 05 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux Budgie 16.01 Edition Now in Testing, Ships with Budgie Desktop 10.2.2 | Jan 05 22:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "NVIDIA... starting off the new year by | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | releasing their first public beta in the 361 | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux driver series." https://t.co/xbbEVTRhSa | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3q | Jan 05 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.16 Beta Driver Now Includes Long-Awaited GLVND - Phoronix | Jan 05 22:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linksys And DD-WRT (Linux) | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RXDOyYAoT6 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3t | Jan 05 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys And DD-WRT (Linux) | Tux Machines | Jan 05 22:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming (mostly PS4) | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/j1Fe3UPLwh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odv3u | Jan 05 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming (mostly PS4) | Tux Machines | Jan 05 22:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Budgie 16.01 Edition Now in | Jan 05 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Testing, Ships with Budgie Desktop 10.2.2 | Jan 05 22:42 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, my FC1 install is almost 12 years old and there really isn't anything I would call cruft | Jan 05 23:02 |
| cubexyz | the log files get bigger, that's about it | Jan 05 23:02 |
| cubexyz | I don't usually run a web browser on that machine, only a web server, so no accumulating firefox/icecat/whatever cache | Jan 05 23:03 |
| cubexyz | there's the drupal backup which occurs each day, that directory will get big | Jan 05 23:04 |
| cubexyz | after the backups get over 1 year old they are moved to optical storage | Jan 05 23:05 |
| cubexyz | there's no cruft in the sense that the accumulating files are unknown in any way, all is known | Jan 05 23:06 |
| cubexyz | I got some files I haven't looked at in a long time though | Jan 05 23:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. /opt/intel/cc/10.1.008/bin | Jan 05 23:13 |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, on a more positive note I' | Jan 05 23:22 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, on a more positive note I've been checking my web server's logs for Linux/CrOS/BSD references | Jan 05 23:23 |
| cubexyz | and I can definitely say it's increasing each year | Jan 05 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/684515031946522624 | Jan 05 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz This problem has lasted millennia. Quis custodiet ipsos custodies? Who watches the watchmen? | Jan 05 23:26 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: excellent, you put some stuff there that I too try to link to | Jan 05 23:27 |
| schestowitz | images, texts, blogs | Jan 05 23:27 |
| cubexyz | student-bsod.jpg was downloaded over a thousand times :) | Jan 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NewsCoverUp/status/684516589014757376 | Jan 05 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NewsCoverUp: @schestowitz #Jail timez soon for giving to the #Poor #Jesus would love this! | Jan 05 23:31 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: all time? | Jan 05 23:31 |
| schestowitz | I did link to it a few times | Jan 05 23:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, altogether | Jan 05 23:31 |
| cubexyz | A couple of days after I posted the bsod's a customer called me about another bsod problem | Jan 05 23:32 |
| cubexyz | I'd say things reaching critical mass | Jan 05 23:32 |
| cubexyz | things are | Jan 05 23:32 |
| cubexyz | One thing I've tried to tell people over the years (which was largely ignored) was that Xenix didn't panic when trying to print something | Jan 05 23:34 |
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| cubexyz | there's a fair amount of iPhone and Mac OS X as well | Jan 05 23:38 |
| cubexyz | at least we can say that the non-microsoft component of web browsing is increasing | Jan 05 23:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: FC1 old install is not like a debian system installed over 10 years ago that has in place updated to all current versions. | Jan 05 23:41 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that's true | Jan 05 23:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft tool is important to long term running debians. | Jan 05 23:41 |
| oiaohm | Even cruft has it percentages of false positives. | Jan 05 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Its really really hard to make a perfectly functional system cleaning program. | Jan 05 23:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I don't think it would be that hard assuming you have 10 years of experience with the OS | Jan 05 23:43 |
| cubexyz | and the repos stopped working :) | Jan 05 23:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have many debain setups that are over 10 years old from last clean installation. | Jan 05 23:44 |
| cubexyz | so all security fixes and everything else is manually done by compiling the source | Jan 05 23:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: doing clean up manually is still painful. | Jan 05 23:44 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, add the proviso that you are keeping things static, e.g. kernel the same, gcc the same etc | Jan 05 23:45 |
| cubexyz | eventually you'll learn what all the files do | Jan 05 23:45 |
| cubexyz | not saying the basic idea isn't good though | Jan 05 23:49 |
| cubexyz | the basic idea of the cruft utility | Jan 05 23:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with security updates that trigger kernel updates and other things over 10 years its not common for the systems I deal with to stay that static. | Jan 05 23:55 |
| cubexyz | how far back does that go? | Jan 05 23:56 |
| cubexyz | 2.4 kernel? 2.2 kernel? | Jan 05 23:56 |
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| oiaohm | My oldest updated image goes back to debain 1.1 Linux kernel 2.0 | Jan 05 23:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course its has been inplace upgraded to 4.3.0 kernel now. | Jan 05 23:58 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't the patched older kernel eventually reach the point of being safe? | Jan 05 23:58 |
| cubexyz | new kernel could have new problems | Jan 05 23:59 |
| oiaohm | The answer patched older kernel remember kernel mainline only supports patching kernels for a max of 5 years. | Jan 06 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Then you are on your own. | Jan 06 00:00 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: just there is a point where updating to newer kernel is less effort and less risk than fixing the older kernel. | Jan 06 00:12 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, really? the new kernel needs more memory | Jan 06 00:27 |
| cubexyz | and it's completely unnecessary on 17-year old hardware | Jan 06 00:28 |
| cubexyz | not going to run USB 3.0 or SATA or any of the newer stuff | Jan 06 00:28 |
| cubexyz | that's why there's a BL3 group | Jan 06 00:28 |
| cubexyz | but FC1 is my oldest work machine | Jan 06 00:29 |
| cubexyz | BL3 falls into the classic computing category | Jan 06 00:29 |
| MinceR | "but but but it isn't modern!!!11111one" | Jan 06 00:32 |
| cubexyz | reuse, repurpose, recycle, in that order :) | Jan 06 00:35 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: you have to remember I do cycle out my hardware. Stuff running 24/7 only lasts so long | Jan 06 00:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: running really old hardware has it risks as well. | Jan 06 00:47 |
| MinceR | like not being powerful enough to run systemd | Jan 06 00:47 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, well my 1997 printer works, not seeing much risk there | Jan 06 00:49 |
| cubexyz | I'll just keep it running as long as possible | Jan 06 00:50 |
| cubexyz | on the other hand, I have a huge stack of bad P4 systems | Jan 06 00:50 |
| cubexyz | some hardware does last longer | Jan 06 00:50 |
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| cubexyz | surely it's better for the environment not to junk everything that is > 10 years old? | Jan 06 00:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cpu, motherboards and ram all have limted live in 24/7 running. | Jan 06 00:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: about 8-9 years. | Jan 06 00:52 |
| cubexyz | surely you are joking? | Jan 06 00:52 |
| oiaohm | I am not joking. | Jan 06 00:52 |
| cubexyz | I have tons of working computers older than 10 years | Jan 06 00:52 |
| oiaohm | Note what I said 24/7 loads. | Jan 06 00:53 |
| oiaohm | A system only doing 8 hours a day could last 3 times longer than that. | Jan 06 00:53 |
| cubexyz | ok, then I got 3 that are > 1 years + on 24/7 | Jan 06 00:54 |
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| cubexyz | all P3's | Jan 06 00:54 |
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| cubexyz | that's my observation | Jan 06 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I stay away from Sky (partly news corp). It does more damage than it can inform. | Jan 06 00:54 |
| cubexyz | all on UPS of course | Jan 06 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: P3 normally go down to cap failures on motherboards. | Jan 06 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you must have been lucky with good quality caps. | Jan 06 00:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: in every adverage there are items that last less and others that last longer. | Jan 06 00:55 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the about 8-9 years is what you can expect without horible strange things coming out of cpu/ram/motherboards. | Jan 06 00:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: harddrives are less. | Jan 06 00:56 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the Tyan one is definitely using Tantalum Polymer capacitors | Jan 06 00:57 |
| cubexyz | the other two I'm not sure | Jan 06 00:57 |
| oiaohm | So higher than adverage grade motherboard. | Jan 06 00:57 |
| cubexyz | but the 8 to 9 year thing seems wrong... maybe 8 to 9 years without a UPS | Jan 06 00:57 |
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| oiaohm | Most likely with higher than adverage grade ram. | Jan 06 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Even if they were, it's not a work privilege | Jan 06 00:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 8 to 9 years is adverage quality server parts. | Jan 06 00:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with a UPS. | Jan 06 00:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so there is reasons to spend a little more. | Jan 06 00:58 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm a bit surprised by that statistic | Jan 06 00:58 |
| cubexyz | but I am assuming that bad power supplies, bad hard drives and bad memory would be replaced as needed | Jan 06 00:59 |
| cubexyz | those are simple jobs | Jan 06 00:59 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, monitor statistics would be interesting to know as well | Jan 06 01:00 |
| cubexyz | I think a coppermine P3 system could last 20 years or more | Jan 06 01:00 |
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| cubexyz | the UPS might not last 10 years | Jan 06 01:01 |
| cubexyz | surely the batteries will not | Jan 06 01:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: using adverage grade power supplies also releate to shorter cpu ram and motherboard life because even behind UPS they don't produce as clean of power feed to motherboard. | Jan 06 01:01 |
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| oiaohm | P3 with top grade parts I would say 20 years life in 24/7 would be possilbe | Jan 06 01:02 |
| oiaohm | Of course harddrive will have to be replaced 3 to 4 times | Jan 06 01:02 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: but a P3 going 20 years would not be the adverage for P3 machines. | Jan 06 01:03 |
| cubexyz | definitely not :) | Jan 06 01:04 |
| cubexyz | I don't see many of them coming in for repair | Jan 06 01:04 |
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| cubexyz | doesn't Voyager 1 still work? | Jan 06 01:05 |
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| cubexyz | that's 38 years in space... so we know things can be built to last | Jan 06 01:05 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: slower clock speeds large nanometer in silcon makes a big difference. | Jan 06 01:05 |
| cubexyz | I haven't seen a 486 in very long time | Jan 06 01:06 |
| oiaohm | There are new 486 like chips made for sats. | Jan 06 01:06 |
| cubexyz | ok these prices are crazy: | Jan 06 01:08 |
| cubexyz | http://abcresellers.com/store/page2.html | Jan 06 01:08 |
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| cubexyz | I know a place that was selling P3's for $20 | Jan 06 01:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.geek.com/science/nasas-orion-spacecraft-runs-on-a-12-year-old-single-core-processor-from-the-ibook-g3-1611132/ 2014 lanch using a processor that for desktop usage was last made in 2002. | Jan 06 01:10 |
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| cubexyz | price inversion :) | Jan 06 01:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that is the thing with sats | Jan 06 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Most cases they are not using anywhere near new processor chips. Going to extrea to make old cpu design on large nm. | Jan 06 01:10 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, why doesn't intel keep making the older cpus? | Jan 06 01:11 |
| cubexyz | I bet they could | Jan 06 01:11 |
| oiaohm | Why large nm designs are more resistance to the damage from radiation. | Jan 06 01:11 |
| oiaohm | sats have power usage requirements. | Jan 06 01:11 |
| oiaohm | Ie lower the better. | Jan 06 01:11 |
| oiaohm | old x86 designs are power hungery. | Jan 06 01:11 |
| cubexyz | I don't think 486 SX was too power hungry | Jan 06 01:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: compared to the power chips of the time that thing is a hog. | Jan 06 01:17 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, my original amiga 500 power supply was rated for 35 watts | Jan 06 01:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: amiga gpu was not light. | Jan 06 01:18 |
| cubexyz | pretty sure there was a sweet spot, an interval of time were computers uses little power | Jan 06 01:18 |
| cubexyz | s/were/when/ | Jan 06 01:18 |
| oiaohm | There is a mixed sweet spot. On earth is different to space. | Jan 06 01:19 |
| oiaohm | space needs larger nm stuff to behave under radiation load. | Jan 06 01:20 |
| cubexyz | if I wanted power efficient, large nm CPU, repairable for desktop, does it exist? | Jan 06 01:20 |
| oiaohm | Using large nm costs you some power efficiency and speed. | Jan 06 01:20 |
| oiaohm | So newer nm uses less power. | Jan 06 01:21 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically is a double side sword. smaller circuit in nm reduced durablity but increased speed. | Jan 06 01:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and reduced nm also reduces power usage. | Jan 06 01:27 |
| cubexyz | I guess the 8086 used the largest nm process | Jan 06 01:29 |
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| cubexyz | or 8080 even | Jan 06 01:29 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, I once thought about building a usable computer with the lowest transistor count | Jan 06 01:30 |
| cubexyz | z80 maybe | Jan 06 01:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: define of usable is the tricky bit. | Jan 06 01:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-TVout-Keyboard/ when you see stuff like this it starts coming clear that the bottom is is going to be warped. | Jan 06 01:36 |
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| cubexyz | RCA TV? surely a composite monitor would be good enough | Jan 06 01:38 |
| cubexyz | what do you need the TV for? :) | Jan 06 01:39 |
| cubexyz | anyone still get analog tv broadcast? | Jan 06 01:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: third world countries are still analog tv | Jan 06 01:40 |
| MinceR | depends on which third world countries | Jan 06 01:40 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if motherboards still have PS/2 connectors | Jan 06 01:41 |
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| cubexyz | PS/2 interface has lower latency | Jan 06 02:00 |
| MinceR | how much latency does it have? | Jan 06 02:00 |
| MinceR | though iirc it doesn't matter with keyboards as the controller tends to add delay in the process of debouncing anyway | Jan 06 02:01 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, PS/2 wins over USB here | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | full n-key roll-over | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | interrupt based | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | my mouse does 1ms latency | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | not delayed like USB | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | and my keyboard does NKRO | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | over USB | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | and they both do hotplug | Jan 06 02:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ps2-vs-usb-keyboard.txt | Jan 06 02:04 |
| MinceR | http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/40375-how-does-nkro-over-usb-work/ | Jan 06 02:05 |
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| cubexyz | you want NKRO? | Jan 06 02:08 |
| MinceR | i do, and i have it | Jan 06 02:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, except for hotlug PS/2 keyboard is better :) | Jan 06 02:14 |
| cubexyz | hotplug | Jan 06 02:14 |
| cubexyz | and this keyboard is old and crapped up | Jan 06 02:15 |
| cubexyz | not too happy with my keyboard actually | Jan 06 02:15 |
| MinceR | apparently NKRO mode has to be explicitly turned on on my keyboard (since it won't work with some OSes) but it does work | Jan 06 02:15 |
| MinceR | USB is also better for the ability to replicate ports with hubs | Jan 06 02:16 |
| cubexyz | I really need a keyboard I can clean :-/ | Jan 06 02:17 |
| MinceR | silicone? :> | Jan 06 02:17 |
| MinceR | or perhaps a projection keyboard :> | Jan 06 02:19 |
| cubexyz | do those exist? | Jan 06 02:20 |
| cubexyz | oh wow, $263 | Jan 06 02:21 |
| cubexyz | I don't know about those MinceR | Jan 06 02:22 |
| cubexyz | interesting idea though | Jan 06 02:22 |
| MinceR | not sure if the latter is still available | Jan 06 02:22 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen the former in a shop | Jan 06 02:22 |
| MinceR | but decided not to buy it after seeing that it folds up into an enormous cylinder | Jan 06 02:22 |
| cubexyz | maybe if the price goes down I'll try it | Jan 06 02:23 |
| cubexyz | they're on ebay for $40 | Jan 06 02:24 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/1979-sears-atari-400.jpg | Jan 06 02:40 |
| cubexyz | not so good old keyboard | Jan 06 02:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 06 02:41 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZX80.jpg | Jan 06 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:ZX80.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/odvwq ] | Jan 06 02:41 | |
| cubexyz | they were called Timex Sinclair 1000 over here | Jan 06 02:42 |
| cubexyz | but Atari 400 was first :) | Jan 06 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Jan 06 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Linux.com | Jan 06 02:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear | Jan 06 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.2-dev Budgie | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a | Jan 06 02:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a stylus | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dueling Raspberry Pi drone autopilots ship in Q1 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android++ For Visual Studio Is Now Open Source | Jan 06 05:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android++ For Visual Studio Is Now Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 06 05:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The January 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Jan 06 05:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2016-01-05 (stable) | Jan 06 06:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 06 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch" and Trinity Desktop 14.0.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 06 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Delayed for January 27, 2016 | Jan 06 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Delayed for January 27, 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 06:03 | |
| oiaohm | Now this has taken like forever. http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta OpenGL Vendor-Neutral Driver infrastructure on Linux | Jan 06 06:51 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/q4os-2-0-2-scorpion-is-based-on-debian-9-0-stretch-and-trinity-desktop-14-0-3-498496.shtml Doesn't Stretch use systemd? | Jan 06 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch" and Trinity Desktop 14.0.3 [ http://ur1.ca/odwob ] | Jan 06 08:12 | |
| cubexyz | that's a different version of Q4OS | Jan 06 08:15 |
| cubexyz | the version I use is based on debian wheezy and has trinity 3.5.13.2 | Jan 06 08:16 |
| cubexyz | I wanted trinity, but not systemd | Jan 06 08:16 |
| msb_ | I mistakenly thought, from your enthusiasm for q4os, that it had specifically rejected systemd. | Jan 06 08:20 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Oh well, another one bites the dust. | Jan 06 08:22 |
| cubexyz | hardly that | Jan 06 08:22 |
| cubexyz | just like I use FC1 and don't use modern Fedora | Jan 06 08:23 |
| cubexyz | I'll keep using the version of Q4OS I have | Jan 06 08:24 |
| cubexyz | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | Jan 06 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/mvnix ] | Jan 06 08:24 | |
| cubexyz | I will say this... archive your linux distros you like | Jan 06 08:25 |
| cubexyz | I'm going through my archives right now actually | Jan 06 08:26 |
| msb_ | I think you should port Unix to a Turing Machine made from a cross-connected 12AX7 and a mercury delay line. After the apocalypse, we can make our own vacuum tubes. | Jan 06 08:29 |
| oiaohm | It is going to be harder and harder to avoid having something systemd like http://sourceforge.net/p/q4os/discussion/Support1/thread/91ea6ef2/?limit=25#9126 | Jan 06 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | Q4OS / Forums / 1. Q4OS Support:Power Managment [ http://ur1.ca/odwpt ] | Jan 06 08:32 | |
| oiaohm | Increased complexity of motherboards and pci and usb for power management is a problem that there is not anyone other than systemd working on a solution for. | Jan 06 08:33 |
| oiaohm | Of course I do see a chance that some point in future openrc might start addressing that problem. | Jan 06 08:38 |
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| cubexyz | yeah q4os might be a bit of a dead end | Jan 06 09:28 |
| cubexyz | I got a huge stack of Linux and BSD discs | Jan 06 09:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/684544679728279552 | Jan 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz It was an interesting and slightly worrying report, for once. | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684603713416216576 | Jan 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz for my app project we use both Azure and AWS; the heavy-duty part will be on AWS but we do like Azure as well for some purposes | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| schestowitz | MS Bot https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/684582179574251521 | Jan 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Google rolls over on Android Java, puts Oracle in driver's seat & potentially giving MS a boost. @schestowitz @zdnet https://t.co/fg4X6zfBvy | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Android Wars 2016: Google surrenders to Oracle as Microsoft allies with Cyanogen | ZDNet | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not really Google going openjdk solves the legal issue. Oracle case in the copyright related. Google developer has used a automated tool to take a java runtime dll and produce source code. | Jan 06 10:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: opps jar not dll. | Jan 06 10:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so section of android code base was highly questionable. | Jan 06 10:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android is ousting Windows from its last mobile | Jan 06 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android is ousting Windows from its last mobile bastion | InfoWorld | Jan 06 11:24 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:16 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK spies publish NoSQL database system as open source | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:17 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant @schestowitz https://t.co/Xwzn7ASQrw | Jan 06 18:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sunmd7/status/684745728388890624 | Jan 06 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sunmd7: @Cargill @DrZuhdiJasser @schestowitz there is no reason to give anyone time off to pray - that is selective appeasement. Let themprayoffwork | Jan 06 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AIFDemocracy/status/684751439944630272 | Jan 06 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AIFDemocracy: .@Cargill please read our take on the #Cargill prayer controversy. CAIR doesn't represent all Muslims: @schestowitz https://t.co/EciN8Y7Kmo | Jan 06 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bikedb06/status/684753710811975680 | Jan 06 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bikedb06: @sunmd7 @Cargill @DrZuhdiJasser @schestowitz Totally agree. What's next??Accept and respect our laws, or go home to the country were it isOK | Jan 06 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edcbm/status/684756291122819073 | Jan 06 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edcbm: @AIFDemocracy @Cargill @schestowitz Where is MSM ie @washingtonpost @NBCPolitics @ABC @chucktodd @GStephanopoulos reporting on this? | Jan 06 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/QuiBirdie/status/684757652392554496 | Jan 06 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QuiBirdie: @Cargill @schestowitz Are those prayer breaks allowed for ALL religions? | Jan 06 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | I may require my second lunch break to have some pasta as I'm in the Flying Spaghetti monster church ;-) | Jan 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/684763895752474624 | Jan 06 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: MS admits Windows 10 (Orwell) is watching you: "Massive Windows 10 Success Has Six Nasty Surprises." @schestowitz https://t.co/WKyGo9gFtC | Jan 06 18:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Forbes Welcome | Jan 06 18:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #NewBalance is making an Android Wear | Jan 06 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | New Balance is making an Android Wear smartwatch, and Intel is putting chips in its shoes | The Verge | Jan 06 18:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Jan 06 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m1fciQh5uT (www.ubergizmo.com) | Jan 06 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com | Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Ubergizmo | Jan 06 18:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and | Jan 06 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08.3 https://t.co/GtVphQ5Rb8 | Jan 06 18:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3 | Jan 06 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sylvia Sanchez: How do you Fedora | Jan 06 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2fH5tGCNIm (fedoramagazine.org) | Jan 06 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/sylvia-sanchez-fedora/ ) | Jan 06 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6947535 | Jan 06 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Jan 06 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/684803238089064448 | Jan 06 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @Cargill I am Catholic but work on Sundays and religious holidays if my shift so requires. And don't whine about it. | Jan 06 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6947535 | Jan 06 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Oklahoma Is Now the Earthquake Capital of the US http://commondreams.org/news/2016/01/05/oklahoma-now-earthquake-capital-america "over the risks of oil and gas operations like hydraulic fracturing" | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> commondreams.org | Oklahoma Is Now the Earthquake Capital of America | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6947456 | Jan 06 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold http://original.antiwar.com/brad_hoff/2016/01/05/new-hillary-emails-reveal-propaganda-executions-coveting-libyan-oil-and-gold/ #clinton #libya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> original.antiwar.com | New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com [ http://ur1.ca/odyki ] | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nf3y2 ] | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3...' | Jan 06 19:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ZTE launches two inexpensive Android phones at | Jan 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CES 2016 https://t.co/wmGPK0Dw23 | Jan 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jan 06 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | ZTE launches two inexpensive Android phones at CES 2016 | The Verge | Jan 06 19:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TeX Live security improvements | Jan 06 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wU0JpQsIz6 (twitter.com) | Jan 06 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DivineNoodles: @schestowitz @QuiBirdie @Cargill I think 'second breakfast' is a very holy tradition that should be respected. R'amen. #FSM | Jan 06 19:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TeXLive security improvements | Jan 06 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SCJEsLRZog (www.preining.info) | Jan 06 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | TeX Live security improvements | | Jan 06 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Balance announces Android Wear smartwatch | Jan 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for running smartphone-free | Jan 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bWVcNZCGOC (mashable.com) | Jan 06 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | New Balance announces Android Wear smartwatch for running smartphone-free | Jan 06 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android needs a bit of growing up for | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | productivity https://t.co/oNO8RDhacv | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) peripheral shortage an | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | issue | Jan 06 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android needs a bit of growing up for productivity - SlashGear | Jan 06 19:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Set Top Box Lets You Stream and Record | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | via HDMI Input https://t.co/aJ6ptYfuwC | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (hackaday.com) | Jan 06 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | Android Set Top Box Lets You Stream and Record via HDMI Input | Hackaday | Jan 06 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia's Shield Android TV gets a little more | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | customizable with Marshmallow upgrade | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dsiXk5QP3f (www.theverge.com) | Jan 06 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Nvidia's Shield Android TV gets a little more customizable with Marshmallow upgrade | The Verge | Jan 06 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The excellent Remix OS is bringing Android to | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | every old x86 PC (and Mac) for free | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G9hrwyQ87K (thenextweb.com) | Jan 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | The excellent Remix OS is bringing Android to every old x86 PC (and Mac) | Jan 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio launches Android Wear smartwatch that | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | lasts a month per charge | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3dr4UNQ4Hi (www.theguardian.com) | Jan 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Casio launches Android Wear smartwatch that lasts a month per charge | Technology | The Guardian | Jan 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 23 on Tegra K1 Chromebook | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DjtcRNl0kh (kushaldas.in) | Jan 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Fedora 23 on Tegra K1 Chromebook | Jan 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Announces New Chromecast Audio And | Jan 06 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android TV Hardware Partners | Jan 06 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HzXJcup9Ea (techcrunch.com) | Jan 06 19:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Google Announces New Chromecast Audio And Android TV Hardware Partners | TechCrunch | Jan 06 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on | Jan 06 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eKaw7crM4R (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 06 19:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on board with Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jan 06 19:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on | Jan 06 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStreetMap https://t.co/L6fr69yeFC | Jan 06 19:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap | Tux Machines | Jan 06 19:48 | |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~roy@host86-136-252-39.range86-136.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Jan 06 20:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New | Jan 06 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TV https://t.co/6sq1dXdMAv | Jan 06 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 06 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New Panasonic UHD TV | Tux Machines | Jan 06 20:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs...' | Jan 06 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/co_lennon/status/684832196570537984 | Jan 06 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@co_lennon: that is very good for Cruz if the White House questions his citizenship. Only helps h https://t.co/pO34CPQHWo https://t.co/Fh4jxR323Y | Jan 06 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more | Jan 06 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New ‘Jihadi John?’ ISIS Video Features English-Speaker https://t.co/aMDwnkpwEK stop with the glorifying nicknames... doesn't help. | Jan 06 20:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New...' | Jan 06 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible | Jan 06 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BattlEye support to come too | Jan 06 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sozXmzslPD (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 06 20:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible BattlEye support to come too | GamingOnLinux | Jan 06 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Natural Selection 2 has a major update, the | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux experience is quite terrible | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Natural Selection 2 has a major update, the Linux experience is quite terrible | GamingOnLinux | Jan 06 20:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BattlEye support to come too | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NKigRHxivJ (www.gizmag.com) | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmag.com | Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 20:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm....All the news is talking about are the conservatives flipping their shit that there will be some new gun control. | Jan 06 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on | Jan 06 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStreetMap https://t.co/pbYqkE7JnN | Jan 06 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap | Jan 06 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 06 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New Panasonic UHD TV | Jan 06 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ' | Jan 06 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New | Jan 06 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TV https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ | Jan 06 20:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Just as an executive order, but the effects will be the most significant since at least 1993. | Jan 06 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's a pretty reasonable list, so of course they're all flocking to the gun stores to hoard ammunition. Say goodbye to .22 long rifle ammo for a while so people can stock up for Red Dawn. LOL | Jan 06 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684837739808862209 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684838212985057281 | Jan 06 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz they are missing A LOT | Jan 06 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz and wtf is this e10s mentioned earlier in the buglist thread? | Jan 06 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684838589214126080 | Jan 06 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz in about:preferences#advanced I always disable "health report" so I guess Mozzarella Foundation doesn't get my "telemetry" | Jan 06 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | spyware in Mozilla | Jan 06 20:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/earl_malmrose/status/684841822728814592 | Jan 06 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@earl_malmrose: @schestowitz Apple competes quite well. But they're so egotistical that they think all competition is unworthy of them. | Jan 06 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684842027981352960 | Jan 06 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz if Moz wants to check how many people use extensions why not look at the server logs on https://t.co/5oMokMrGCI for downloads?? | Jan 06 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> addons.mozilla.org | Add-ons for Firefox | Jan 06 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | Won't count uninstalled ones | Jan 06 21:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines System 76 Oryx Pro review: A laptop for your | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desk https://t.co/rWnbmTX0Ma (www.cio.com) | Jan 06 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | System 76 Oryx Pro review: A laptop for your desk | CIO | Jan 06 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "fully-supported commercial version of its | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Networking Operating System (ONOS)." | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nt40ow7oOX (www.telecomasia.net) | Jan 06 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telecomasia.net | Ciena, ON.Lab collaborate on Open Source OS | Telecom Asia | Jan 06 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon Makes EC2 Cloud Hosting Cheaper, | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Especially for Linux https://t.co/mQq6paEmsu | Jan 06 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Amazon Makes EC2 Cloud Hosting Cheaper, Especially for Linux | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jan 06 21:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6948379 | Jan 06 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox "analysis of users and estimated that approximately 40% do not have any addons installed at all." https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229949#c8 #mozilla | Jan 06 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | "And those are only people that didn’t disable the Mozilla’s spy, meaning the percentage is much lower than that." | Jan 06 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1229949 – What percentage of release channel users have add-ons installed | Jan 06 21:44 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 06 22:05 | |
| *[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | Jan 06 22:05 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jan 06 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The release of #plasma 5.6 foreseen (March) | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4PyOyGn7Ku (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | also: https://t.co/iLMnJ5mUbo | Jan 06 22:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Technology of the Year Finalist: Android | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Auto https://t.co/mqsZlFoea1 (www.autoblog.com) | Jan 06 22:14 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 06 23:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, as promised here is my provisional archive list | Jan 06 23:44 |
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| sebsebseb | cubexyz: hi just found out about a new wm/de looks interesting from screenshots | Jan 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | provisional since there's discs I haven't checked yet | Jan 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb, what's that? | Jan 06 23:46 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I just treid to install into Ubuntu as well, but then reolise that well yeah not on latests, I thought I Had upgraded this install already this re install, but I guess not then | Jan 06 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: there's some kind of OS with it to the wm/de | Jan 06 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Budgie, maybe? | Jan 06 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | (SolusOS) | Jan 06 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep that | Jan 06 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: https://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/installing-the-solus-budgie-desktop-on-ubuntu/ | Jan 06 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xpressubuntu.wordpress.com | Installing the Solus budgie-desktop on Ubuntu | xpress-ubuntu | Jan 06 23:48 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: heh I felt a bit like running well trying to run random commands that were on some guys blog, but they seem ok, not malcious | Jan 06 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | errored in 15.04 I thought I had already upgrgraded this re intsall to 15.10, but nope | Jan 06 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: have you used Budige / SolusOS ? | Jan 06 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nope, it doesn't look interesting to me. | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | it looks basic | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | like XFCE or something but more to it htan just that | Jan 06 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | exactly | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | what to being basic? | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: well it's fun to try out new wm's/de's :d | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | it uses things like Mutter on the background, GNOME stuff | Jan 06 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: So I'm staying put on MATE (and making Cinnamon possible on openSUSE as an alternative) | Jan 06 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | uh yur running openSUSE | Jan 06 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | I never liked Cinnamon much, I do like Mate though | Jan 06 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | of course I like Mate, I liekd GNOME 2 a lot before :) | Jan 06 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yep, and MATE doesn't seem that basic. | Jan 06 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: What do you think about Pantheon? | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | Phantheon that's a wm/de not used that if so | Jan 06 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | (Elementary OS) | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | Mate is great, it's just GNOEM 2 living on, that's my prefered DE atter GNOME 3 | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | GNOME 3 being my favourite | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | and Unity isn't that bad actsaully | Jan 06 23:54 |
| cubexyz | what you do actually use for work? | Jan 06 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | decided to try it out again the other month on a computer again, well mostly, and well getting bored of that again now | Jan 06 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: As an openSUSE guy (a non-Ubuntu) guy I can say with proper knowledge that Unity is bad. | Jan 06 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: pretty much any de/wm will be fine for me to use for what I use a computer for :) | Jan 06 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | Unity uses so much Ubuntu-specific stuff including Gtk patches that it sickens | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I am not an Ubuntu guy either really, used to be someone who helepd out in #ubuntu a lot, but then moved on to other stuff, got invovled with Mageia | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | reallly I am a Magiea guy, but I don't actsaullhy hae that installed on here at the moment since...... | Jan 06 23:55 |
| cubexyz | Ubuntu isn't even on the radar for me | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | altough I have become someone who likes UBuntu PHone quite a bit last year | Jan 06 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Come to openSUSE side, we have cookies^W OBS | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | and I actsaully found the lost BQ phone on Tuesday that was good :) | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | I lost my phone back in July | Jan 06 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | (I hope Disney won't sue me) | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | I thought it had happended on the house drive etc | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | after travelling | Jan 06 23:56 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but no turns out it was some where, just very hidden away there | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | I was doing some cleaning etc and well, oh what's that? | Jan 06 23:56 |
| cubexyz | Lucas was already rich, why did he sell out? | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | oh it's a phone hmm oh, not some old phone Nokia or whatevr right, nope it was the bq :) | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: nah openSUSE is linekd to Micrsooft in some way or the other | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: as MinceR and schestowitz and so on would all say as well | Jan 06 23:57 |
| cubexyz | no KDE 3.5.10 adherents? :) | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: and it's never appealed to me as a distro, I remember trying Yast out before hwen I used SYnaptic a lot in Ubuntu, and being like uh, it didn't work etc | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | we have a nice control centre in Mageia and such anyway so :) | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I might try and install TRinity into this Ubuntu install actsaully once it's upgraded to 15.10 as well | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | there's no KDE 4 installed really at the moment to, well except for what say konversion needs | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | I remember there being some issues with Kubuntu in both 15.04 and 15.10 not quite working right hmm | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | but eh to that, I would run that in Mageia on occasion for example once installed | Jan 06 23:58 |
| MinceR | *suse is also linked to lendows | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: lendows ??? windows? | Jan 06 23:59 |
| MinceR | cancerd & co | Jan 06 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: He means systemd | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | oh systemd | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | well Mageia usees that, FEdora I think to, etc etc | Jan 06 23:59 |
| MinceR | if it's toxic crap, *suse loves it | Jan 06 23:59 |
| cubexyz | I only use cruelty-free, systemd-free, microsoft-free OSes :) | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: heh your bound to get trolled for likeing SUSE here, oh right yeah I think I seen that before a few times ?:d | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah SUSE is linked to Microsoft so hmm | Jan 07 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nah, I usually keep out of discussions I don't have a real argument in. | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | I been foucssing on uhmm other things in my life for months | Jan 07 00:00 |
| MinceR | well, at least making a patent deal with m$ that enables FUD against GNU/Linux is not "trolling" | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | partly why this lap top still isnt' qutie set up how I want ti | Jan 07 00:00 |
| MinceR | that's great | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | it | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah I need to get Mageia 5 on here really :) | Jan 07 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | Like that Microsoft-loving flag is now being given from SUSE to Red Hat | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | and how I wanted to re install WIndodws 10 to | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | no installation media and uh | Jan 07 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | and Novell is pretty dead now | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | I guess the restore option will only re set WIndows mainly, not remove Ubuntu or whatever else is on here to, but can't really know for sure, untill I try | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | another reason why I haven't set things up | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | with more than one distro yet as well | Jan 07 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | Microsoft-linked Attachmate Group got selled to Micro Focus | Jan 07 00:02 |
| *sebsebseb thinks his WIndwos 10 install might hae some malware in it | Jan 07 00:02 | |
| sebsebseb | since trying some program that wasn't really the best to try beffore | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | since it was ike getting a random program from the net it turns out | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | which isn't particuarly clever really when running WIndows! | Jan 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/key-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png | Jan 07 00:03 |
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| cubexyz | aww, did I do that again :-/ | Jan 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png | Jan 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | learn to type | Jan 07 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Micro Focus, as far as I know, is not owned by Microsoft. | Jan 07 00:04 |
| cubexyz | no worriessss :) | Jan 07 00:04 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see an apology from the *suse people for helping m$ against their own users | Jan 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/684857095863300096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/684857359122984960 | Jan 07 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Chrome browser, you just put in the right URL and credentials and after a few seconds the #GNOME desktop appears." https://t.co/5CQoYcIGaf | Jan 07 00:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #IPv6 non-alternatives: DJB's article, 13 years later https://t.co/ZkqDNO3XZn | Jan 07 00:05 | |
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| sebsebseb | XRevan86: SUSE has a big past with Micrsooft | Jan 07 00:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Cargill/status/684887259481440256 | Jan 07 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yes, it has. | Jan 07 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cargill: @QuiBirdie @schestowitz Yes, all employees at our plant can ask for prayer breaks and the prayer room is open to all faiths. | Jan 07 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | Incentive to claims of being religious. I wonder where an atheist like me stands. I can call Playstation my religion. ;-) | Jan 07 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: And now it got somewhat dumped by Microsoft, and nobody cares anymore. | Jan 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/QuiBirdie/status/684887948341411842 | Jan 07 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QuiBirdie: @Cargill @schestowitz Right on! That's awesome! 😀 | Jan 07 00:08 | |
| sebsebseb | 2016 should be a interesitngg year for Desktop Linux | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | certain distro's going Wayland or Mir probably | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | some een with btfs by default I guess | Jan 07 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | btrfs? | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | yes btrfs | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly FEdora a recent future not yet to be relasesd version wil probably go Wayland yep | Jan 07 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | full Wayland | Jan 07 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | and I read that it's already used for the log in screen apparnatly | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I don't believe in Wayland in 2016. | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | I don't follow Fedora | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | maximum as "oh look, it's Wayland and it can run GNOME!" | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: why's that? | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | KDE can also run with Wayland I think? | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: XWayland is terrible. | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | and there's like compatiablhy thing for other stuff | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | totally terrible | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I haen't used it, how's it so terrible? | Jan 07 00:12 |
| MinceR | i hope wayland won't get stuck at the level the lendows people want it to be at | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which is? | Jan 07 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Just try it. | Jan 07 00:13 |
| MinceR | cancerd only, no pointer grab, no pointer warp, no screenshots, no server-side decorations | Jan 07 00:13 |
| MinceR | no modularity, no options | Jan 07 00:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, this is what I use: fc1, openbsd 4.7, vector linux classic, q4os, CrOS | Jan 07 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think Canonical will probably switch Ubuntu Desktop over to Mir and Unity 8 with Ubuntu 16.10 or to start to switch it over properly, if not a complete switch | Jan 07 00:13 |
| cubexyz | not counting the old stuff | Jan 07 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | they can't do a big change or start to do it properly for the LTS, taht woudl be insane crazy | Jan 07 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | ,but they can for 16.10 | Jan 07 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly thre's some sort of test versio as well Unity 8 on Mir for the computer | Jan 07 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | > systemd only | Jan 07 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: um… | Jan 07 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | Nor Wayland nor Weston require systemd | Jan 07 00:15 |
| MinceR | they require logind, don't they? | Jan 07 00:15 |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit surprised no one here seems to use BSD | Jan 07 00:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 6/1/2016: CES Focus, Firefox OS in | Jan 07 00:15 |
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| MinceR | i'll look at migrating to netbsd | Jan 07 00:15 |
| MinceR | or openbsd | Jan 07 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Linux is wehre it's at | Jan 07 00:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 07 00:15 | |
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| MinceR | i'm sick of using a system which is developed according to political agenda, not technical merit | Jan 07 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Don't see it in deps | Jan 07 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which system? | Jan 07 00:16 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: gnu/linux | Jan 07 00:16 |
| MinceR | well, more like systemd/linux now | Jan 07 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | well not all distros haev gone systemd, bu yes most of the main ones have if not all of them really | Jan 07 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I bet there's still tons of GNU in there still | Jan 07 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What if OpenBSD is being developed to kill GPL? | Jan 07 00:16 |
| MinceR | i also wonder if i can get a task scheduler that sucks less | Jan 07 00:17 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i'd like to see evidence for that | Jan 07 00:17 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: also, redcrap's promotion of the dbus hole seems to be doing more against GPL | Jan 07 00:17 |
| cubexyz | the programmer decides which license to use | Jan 07 00:17 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: What's the evidence of political agendas? | Jan 07 00:18 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: take a look at how far kdbus got before it was shot down, for example | Jan 07 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How far? | Jan 07 00:22 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: afaict only Linus stood between it and mainline | Jan 07 00:22 |
| MinceR | and it totally sucks | Jan 07 00:22 |
| MinceR | the only reason it would get in is that that's what redcrap wants | Jan 07 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | I thought it was just staged for ever. | Jan 07 00:23 |
| MinceR | m$ already managed to get horribly crap code integrated | Jan 07 00:23 |
| MinceR | ironically, it's incompatible with cancerd | Jan 07 00:24 |
| MinceR | it has "/etc/init.d/networking restart" hardcoded into it | Jan 07 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: details | Jan 07 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | > /etc/init.d/networking | Jan 07 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | isn't that a Debian thing? | Jan 07 00:24 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 07 00:25 |
| MinceR | it's more of a sysvinit/rc thing, afaik | Jan 07 00:25 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: init doesn't care about networking | Jan 07 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | (well, unless it's systemd or OpenRC) | Jan 07 00:26 |
| MinceR | right, the networking script itself might be a debian thing | Jan 07 00:26 |
| cubexyz | on fc1 it was /etc/init.d/network | Jan 07 00:26 |
| cubexyz | in debian it's /etc/init.d/networking | Jan 07 00:27 |
| cubexyz | at least in debian wheezy it is | Jan 07 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Where do they place this code? | Jan 07 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's still there. | Jan 07 00:27 |
| MinceR | ah, it's network, not networking | Jan 07 00:27 |
| MinceR | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/hyperv/netvsc_drv.c?id=3a494e710367c0a233d86bcde9853781859fc008#n784 | Jan 07 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree | Jan 07 00:27 | |
| MinceR | so it probably won't work on debian either | Jan 07 00:27 |
| cubexyz | slackware had /etc/rc.d/rc.network | Jan 07 00:28 |
| MinceR | i mean the last stable version ever, wheezy | Jan 07 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It was mainlin'd!? | Jan 07 00:28 |
| cubexyz | confused yet? :) | Jan 07 00:28 |
| MinceR | looks like it | Jan 07 00:28 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder what these people think they're doing anymore | Jan 07 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | Okay, so nobody checks the code in Linux | Jan 07 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's not political, see? | Jan 07 00:29 |
| MinceR | we'll see | Jan 07 00:29 |
| cubexyz | it's kind of a mess, hurray :) | Jan 07 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | yay | Jan 07 00:29 |
| MinceR | after all, the cult's answer to kdbus not being merged was to make systemd depend more on it | Jan 07 00:29 |
| cubexyz | openbsd had a different thing: /etc/netstart | Jan 07 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I see that as a childish way to show self-importance. | Jan 07 00:31 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: meanwhile there was also a plot to move the VT code out of the kernel and into systemd | Jan 07 00:31 |
| cubexyz | so really the BSD's follow Unix the closest | Jan 07 00:31 |
| cubexyz | since netstart first appears in 4.0BSD long before Linux even existed | Jan 07 00:32 |
| cubexyz | netstart even predates tcp/ip :) | Jan 07 00:33 |
| cubexyz | now why everyone thought to do it different in all the linux distros I don't know | Jan 07 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I remember that, yeah. | Jan 07 00:36 |
| cubexyz | basically netstart was/is a bourne shell script | Jan 07 00:36 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, you better jump to BSD soon :) | Jan 07 00:37 |
| MinceR | i'll see if i can | Jan 07 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | But right now I'm too upset with that Linux's mainline has a hardcoded distro-specific path hidden somewhere. | Jan 07 00:37 |
| MinceR | and whether i'll be better off with it or not | Jan 07 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | Good night. | Jan 07 00:37 |
| MinceR | o/ | Jan 07 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | Now it's even harder to believe in Linux. | Jan 07 00:38 |
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| cubexyz | see, this is really a temporal thing | Jan 07 00:39 |
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| cubexyz | old linux was/is fine | Jan 07 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | I don't mean that in proprietary way. | Jan 07 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | That is totally impossible to believe in. | Jan 07 00:39 |
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| cubexyz | so I'm basically running older linux beside BSD | Jan 07 00:40 |
| cubexyz | that's my solution | Jan 07 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6948388 | Jan 07 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Finally a POI editor. We need more such ones on mobile systems. Cloudmade used to make one." | Jan 07 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/684894519540727808 | Jan 07 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @Cargill It requires intensive night prayers causing my sleep pattern to be disrupted, this happens every AAA release dates. | Jan 07 01:19 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz | see context | Jan 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz | I got lots of attention for this today | Jan 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz | mostly from people who are against Muslims bering a rug to work | Jan 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz | (not for yoga) | Jan 07 01:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, just did | Jan 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz | and the employer is not in damage control mode | Jan 07 01:26 |
| schestowitz | got lots of horrible publicity in lots of site, maybe even death threats (because it's fanatic Muslims who can't help praying to Mecca at work) | Jan 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Condell used to say | Jan 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz | (and now it seems correctly so) | Jan 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz | that many in the UK view hiring Muslims risky | Jan 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz | if they let them pray people lose respect for the staff | Jan 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz | and they feel like they get discriminated against | Jan 07 01:28 |
| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2234.html | Jan 07 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... Dr. Facebook, your reliable psychiatric tormentor [ http://ur1.ca/oe03j ] | Jan 07 01:28 | |
| schestowitz | as non-Muslims won't get this additional break | Jan 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz | if the right is denied, they're called islamophobs | Jan 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz | and if everyone gets this special break for 'equality' (not lunch break for food), productivity sinks | Jan 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | so no matter what you do, you'll lose | Jan 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | that's why, Condell asserted, many just feel very apprehensive about hiring devour Muslims | Jan 07 01:29 |
| MinceR | even if only muslims get that break, productivity sinks | Jan 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz | I guess for women there's the maternity leave 'issue' | Jan 07 01:29 |
| MinceR | people should be apprehensive about hiring any devout people | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | which introduces similar issues, with paternity leave, which either doesn't exist or is considerable shorter | Jan 07 01:30 |
| MinceR | religion breaks the mind | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | and it doesn't include the productivity issues pre-natal, let alone post-natal | Jan 07 01:30 |
| MinceR | religion poisons everything | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | in this context, yes | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't think any Christians ever asked for or expected to pray at work | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | the UK has prayer rooms in malls | Jan 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz | I see them all the time | Jan 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | in reality, it's used almost only by Muslims | Jan 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | but the signs emphasise it's just prayer room | Jan 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | religion-neutral | Jan 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | same in airports | Jan 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz | [00:16] <MinceR> i'm sick of using a system which is developed according to political agenda, not technical merit | Jan 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz | gates Foundation | Jan 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz | [23:55] <XRevan86> sebsebseb: Come to openSUSE side, we have cookies^W OBS | Jan 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz | is obs still around? | Jan 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Cause I never hear of it anymore | Jan 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Not heard of it for years... how many people actively look after it now? | Jan 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz | The only active 'community' (pseudo) thing these days is tumbleweed | Jan 07 01:34 |
| MinceR | what's OBS? | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | and this one too is.... well, tumbleweed | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | apt name | Jan 07 01:34 |
| MinceR | XRevan86 has left, btw | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE Build Service | Jan 07 01:34 |
| MinceR | ah, the custom .iso builder thing, i guess | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, right, I was scrolling up | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | They used to have SUSE Studio | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | and other things | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | lots about that in techrights, it goes way back | Jan 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz | talking about novell now is nostalgic | Jan 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz | we basically win | Jan 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz | when Novell is dead within less than 4 years of the campaign | Jan 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz | and now a lot of the patent system is under attack | Jan 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz | EPO the most affective such attack | Jan 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz | the tide is changing, even patent examiners get fed up and quit their job | Jan 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz | I managed to get Florian M to flip-flop on Apple | Jan 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz | private chats | Jan 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz | and now he's anti-patents against, as far as I can tell... | Jan 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has gotten weak | Jan 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz | so much so that it doesn't scare so many Linux users anymore, lots are more concerned about Apple (rightly or wrongly) | Jan 07 01:37 |
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| cubexyz | actually I'm seeing quite a lot of windows 10 references in the logs | Jan 07 07:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I find it interesting that firefox OS has appeared on Panasonic TVs | Jan 07 07:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684965451634446337 | Jan 07 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #XRDP not updated in the last two years? that doesn't bode well... https://t.co/gcxHd9yHKh cc/@lproven @schestowitz | Jan 07 08:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/antiLarrysZiams/status/684971648907345921 | Jan 07 08:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SilverCensus/status/684973305305165825 | Jan 07 08:01 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: what percent? | Jan 07 08:06 |
| schestowitz | Florian is retweeting Rush Limbaugh | Jan 07 08:12 |
| schestowitz | and now Donald Rump!!!! | Jan 07 08:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684942083208122369 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684992751994273792 | Jan 07 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @h_weid at least Mr. Trump says "migrants". By saying "refugees", you already misrepresent what the vast majority of them are. | Jan 07 08:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @h_weid just get the stats, which the minister of the interior published. How can someone be a refugee coming from a country like Morroco? | Jan 07 08:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684999465539923968 | Jan 07 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @h_weid No, you're the typical low-information voter. Not "three identified people". Read this: https://t.co/gh8Cq5vMNC | Jan 07 08:13 | |
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| schestowitz | Nightmare scenario for refugees | Jan 07 08:13 |
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| msb_ | Police in Cologne, Germany have identified a few of the muslims involved in the dozens of attacks on women, including an actual rape, on New Years Eve: https://www.rt.com/news/328118-cologne-police-assaults-unprepared/ | Jan 07 08:50 |
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| schestowitz | more than dozens, I heard. | Jan 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Based on what the chief of police said (not that I trust police version of stories), about a thousand men created a corridor | Jan 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz | and one woman got gropes like 100 times | Jan 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz | one lost her knickers in the process | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | one raped, literally | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | even women with their husbands and children present | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | msb_: read http://www.examiner.com/article/germany-mayor-blames-victims-for-sex-attack-by-1-000-muslims-media-censorship | Jan 07 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.examiner.com | German mayor blames victims for sex attacks by 1,000 Muslims: Media coverup | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/oe14h ] | Jan 07 08:54 | |
| schestowitz | this is similar/closest to what I heard of the story | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | and their was allegedly a similar incident in another place (maybe train station) in Germany | Jan 07 08:55 |
| schestowitz | might be some new kind of way to scare the local population, using sexual violent directed at women | Jan 07 08:55 |
| msb_ | Yes, I've also seen such reports from Scandinavian countries. | Jan 07 08:59 |
| msb_ | They could be doing it to scare and dominate the population, but the article says, "Under sharia law, it's OK to rape any non-Muslim woman because they are "infidels."" | Jan 07 09:03 |
| schestowitz | is this true? | Jan 07 09:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's true about Sharia | Jan 07 09:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe something in Koran helps justify it in retrospect, but I think it's false to attribute this to Sharia, or else I'd have heard something about it | Jan 07 09:05 |
| msb_ | Unless the media are censoring what they tell us about Islam, out of "political correctness". | Jan 07 09:06 |
| msb_ | Many moslems certainly feel it's OK to _murder_ women who have sex outside of marriage. That's called "honor killing", and it's been going on for many years. | Jan 07 09:08 |
| msb_ | Some of them cut women's/girl's clitorises off, so they will be faithful in marriage. | Jan 07 09:10 |
| msb_ | Forcing women to wear black burkhas covering their entire head and body in the hot desert sun, and not allowing them to drive cars or go to university, is done throughout some entire Moslem nations, like Saudi Arabia, | Jan 07 09:12 |
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| msb_ | If one man showed up believing that he had to bow down and worship a nonexistent "god" six times a day, and believing that everyone should do it, and had the aforementioned ideas about women, he would be diagnosed as a dangerous schizophrenic psychopath, and would be locked up where he couldn't hurt anyone, But if billions of people have these delusions and compulsions, it's called "a religion" and considered beyond criticism. | Jan 07 09:18 |
| cubexyz | not just Africa either | Jan 07 09:21 |
| cubexyz | FGM occurred in Europe and the United States in the 19th century | Jan 07 09:21 |
| cubexyz | read up on Isaac Baker Brown | Jan 07 09:22 |
| cubexyz | maybe in 2100 people will look back to now and talk about how crappy it was | Jan 07 09:24 |
| msb_ | There was a documentary on recently about a group of people (Yezidis?) who were overrun by ISIL and enslaved. All were ordered to become Sunni moslems or be killed. The women were sold to various men and forced to marry them (sex outside of marriage being illegal in Islam). The men then raped them until they got tired of them, divorced them, and sold them to another man, This was repeated 50 times for some women. | Jan 07 09:25 |
| cubexyz | yes, I think I saw that on Frontline | Jan 07 09:26 |
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| msb_ | Isaac Baker Brown was a prominent 19th-century English gynaecologist and obstetrical surgeon. He was a specialist in the diseases of women and advocated certain surgical procedures, including clitoridectomies, as cures for epilepsy and hysteria. Wikipedia | Jan 07 09:27 |
| cubexyz | yes, Yezidis were persecuted by Sunni Muslims | Jan 07 09:29 |
| cubexyz | so ISIS tries to "purify" Iraq of non-Islamic influences like Yezidis | Jan 07 09:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/685025270651338752 | Jan 07 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz https://t.co/70hMI21EEH | Jan 07 09:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ForbesTech: Microsoft's has inadvertently revealed 6 ways Windows 10 spies on its users https://t.co/9dOHIyzEkZ https://t.co/WgmMmjfRFz | Jan 07 09:31 | |
| cubexyz | this just shows the influence of microsoft, I'm sorry to say | Jan 07 09:33 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft is able to cram windows 10 onto a lot of computers, even though people don't even like it | Jan 07 09:34 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Jan 07 09:35 |
| cubexyz | I'd go as far to say that most people don't have good understanding of their operating system choices | Jan 07 09:36 |
| cubexyz | in the 70s and 80s it was a lot different | Jan 07 09:37 |
| cubexyz | one could encounter several different OSes in a short period of time | Jan 07 09:37 |
| cubexyz | the absolute worse was when I learned about blogs about "how to get people off windows 7/8" | Jan 07 09:40 |
| cubexyz | meanging getting them on windows 10 | Jan 07 09:40 |
| msb_ | I think most people with computers don't even know they _have_ an operating system | Jan 07 09:41 |
| msb_ | They buy a computer, and operate it by rote procedures without knowing anything about the actual internal results of their actions. | Jan 07 09:43 |
| msb_ | People have been programmed not to think or question (in religion and schools), so they go through life not knowing WTF they're doing. | Jan 07 09:45 |
| msb_ | Instead of thinking and knowledge they have habits and "opinions". | Jan 07 09:46 |
| cubexyz | well rote learning isn't all bad, you have to start somewhere | Jan 07 09:46 |
| cubexyz | but definitely as an adult you should be using conceptual learning | Jan 07 09:47 |
| cubexyz | I mean, I think rote learning of windows is definitely bad | Jan 07 09:48 |
| cubexyz | somehow over the years learning computers has morphed into learning windows | Jan 07 09:48 |
| msb_ | I disagree. If children don't learn about concepts and some critical thinking, by the time they're adults it's much too late. | Jan 07 09:48 |
| cubexyz | not sure what schools are doing these days | Jan 07 09:51 |
| cubexyz | I sure didn't think it was too good in high school :) | Jan 07 09:51 |
| msb_ | I had 3 or 4 good teachers in my 12 years of public school. The rest were robots who hated kids. I had a science teacher who let me play with an electrical experiment kit. He had a phase-contrast microscope and showed us an amoeba in it -- amazing! He was he best. | Jan 07 09:56 |
| cubexyz | I know U of Waterloo does a fair bit of Android development | Jan 07 09:56 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I had phase contrast microscopes in high school | Jan 07 09:57 |
| msb_ | It was just that one teacher who had one. I don't think he let anybody use it. | Jan 07 10:00 |
| cubexyz | there's a native american (I think, I must check this more) that uses base 8 for counting | Jan 07 10:04 |
| cubexyz | they count the spaces between their fingers :) | Jan 07 10:04 |
| cubexyz | Yuki language and Pamean languages | Jan 07 10:05 |
| msb_ | Looks like they cost $3-4,000 https://www.microscopeworld.com/c-426-phase-contrast-microscopes.aspx | Jan 07 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopeworld.com | Phase Contrast Microscopes - Microscope World | Jan 07 10:05 | |
| cubexyz | ok, no wonder he didn't let anyone touch it then | Jan 07 10:05 |
| msb_ | Let the objective hit the cover-slip and you're out the price of a good used car. | Jan 07 10:08 |
| cubexyz | can't they build one that's a bit safer? | Jan 07 10:09 |
| msb_ | The objective lens is where the magic happens. It has lots of precision components. | Jan 07 10:09 |
| msb_ | Just google. I mostly remember that amoeba! | Jan 07 10:10 |
| msb_ | You can make a dark-field microscope by just putting a disk of black paper (on a slide) underneath the condenser. Not as good as phase contrast, but you can see tiny particles, organelles in paramecia and amoebas, etc. Works on any cheap microscope. | Jan 07 10:14 |
| msb_ | Some alternative-medicine doctors find all sorts of things in patients' blood using dark-field. | Jan 07 10:18 |
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| cubexyz | like what? | Jan 07 10:18 |
| msb_ | Tiny bacteria, too small to see in bright-field. | Jan 07 10:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjan01/dwphase.html There is formal documentation to take a normal Microscope and make it Phase Contrast. | Jan 07 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopy-uk.org.uk | Making a condenser annular ring for a phase contrast objective | Jan 07 10:19 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: really for how lack of complexity phase contrast is I have never under stood how Microscope makers get away with changing such super high prices for it. | Jan 07 10:20 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: That article explains how to make a condenser for a phase-contrast microscope, but you still need the objective, which is what costs. | Jan 07 10:22 |
| schestowitz | ' Since the question I posed yesterday seems to have got lost in the ether, I will ask again. Is there any mention of the London Agreement in the new law removing the requirement for translations of granted EP patents? " | Jan 07 10:22 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.micromagus.net/microscopes/diyphase.html Really not you are just going back to the 1963 documentaiton on how todo phase-contrast. A lot of cheaper microscopes contain the right tech for objective just lack the plates. | Jan 07 10:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/685045385174380544 | Jan 07 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ACROPOLITESSE: Cologne le déni de réalité https://t.co/Mr4eZSfgk7 | Jan 07 10:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A lot of people wilfully in denial about what happened in #germany this week https://t.co/XR4gFg4wuF | Jan 07 10:32 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: the price bull crap is the fact that a Microscope with all the parts to do phase-contrast just lacking the plates is can be 1/4 the price of a Microscope that has phase-contrast plates. Not that making the plates is a complex process. | Jan 07 10:33 |
| msb_ | I'm pretty sure the amoeba guts that I saw were in color. | Jan 07 10:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjul09/fs-phase.html Not really in color replecatable using software to map the close to black and white color over a broader range. | Jan 07 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopy-uk.org.uk | Zernike’s colour phase-contrast. [ http://ur1.ca/oe1cb ] | Jan 07 10:39 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes some of the cheaper microscopes contain phase-shift to color parts but no phase-contrast rings. | Jan 07 10:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically there is color and greyscale like phase-contrast microscopes. Just like phase-shift to color and without. Phase-shift to color without phase-contrast is just a form of filter. | Jan 07 10:44 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: The photos in that last article are more like it! I've bookmarked these pages and will read up on it. | Jan 07 10:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brightfield_phase_contrast_cell_image.jpg This is a black and white compare. | Jan 07 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: most people are not aware that the are color and black and white phase-contrast. | Jan 07 10:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Ok greyscale phase-contrast. The insanity is greyscale phase-contrast microscopes can go for 4 times the price of a normal optical that can be converted to one without any major trouble. | Jan 07 10:49 |
| schestowitz | [09:12] <msb_> Forcing women to wear black burkhas covering their entire head and body in the hot desert sun, and not allowing them to drive cars or go to university, is done throughout some entire Moslem nations, like Saudi Arabia, | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | They're allowed to go to university in Saudi Arabia | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | My friend lectures there as a visiting professor | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | the women cannot attend his lecture in person | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | it's not allowed | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | so they're in some distant room watching a video link | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | as in, physically separated by the men who are allowed to see him in person | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | weird, I know... | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Don't get me started on Saudi Barbaria's treatment of women, but they're allowed to go to university | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | my wife's sister used to work in Saudi Arabia and she tells some stories about how many of the surgeries she worked on happened to involve people who got things 'accidentally' stuck up their arse | Jan 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | or that people there who shave look to them a lot like women and are therefore at risk of being raped | Jan 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | My friend was sort of stalked by a guy there, it's generally not a safe place, and UK gov. now advises Brits against visiting the country (while selling it lots of weapons and other 'defense' stuff for billions of pounds -- to the pockets of the rich only) | Jan 07 10:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: mind you there are many stupid laws around the world still on the books not enforced. Like Memphis usa a woman is not meant to drive car unless male is on road ahead of her waving a red flag. Now that could really be temping fate. | Jan 07 10:57 |
| cubexyz | surely they would repeal the dumb old laws? :) | Jan 07 10:58 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: that's very old | Jan 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | and became a classic | Jan 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I guess cars used to be harder to drive and operate | Jan 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | (not steer, although power steering too changed the 'rules') | Jan 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | cars used to be very mechanical and more complex-to-operate machines, required some strength, not dexterity | Jan 07 11:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the fine for breaking the law is a max of 10 dollars a day. | Jan 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Not making excuse for these laws, just saying that today any such excuses for misogynists are no longer valid | Jan 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Try riding a car without power steering | Jan 07 11:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so yes the law is very old and no one has updated the fine either. | Jan 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | and a clutch system without all the fancy improvements made over the years to leave room for errors | Jan 07 11:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Police enforce that law would mostly be wasting their time. | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | and get fired | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | after the PD comes under media fire | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Repealing the law would cause media buzz | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | which in itself would be embarrassing | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | !google switzerland law women vote | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Women's suffrage in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerland | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Women's suffrage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Appenzell Innerrhoden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appenzell_Innerrhoden | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Long Way to Women's Right to Vote in Switzerland: a Chronology | http://history-switzerland.geschichte-schweiz.ch/chronology-womens-right-vote-switzerland.html | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | I think 70s? | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "Women's Right to Vote" | Jan 07 11:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some to get repealed. Like witchcraft/Paganism was illegal in Queensland Australia until 2001. Yet had been not enforce for 60 odd years. | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Introduction of women's right to vote in some European / North American nations: | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1917 Soviet Union 1928 United Kingdom | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1918 Austria 1944 France | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1919 Germany 1945 Italy | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1920 USA 1971 Switzerland | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Ah, USSR first | Jan 07 11:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 60 odd years before 2001 that is. | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | and they say Soviets were all that bad... | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | France 1944? Italy the following year? | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Germany post WW1 | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | other nations post WW2 | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Austria before Germany | Jan 07 11:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: when I say illegal witchcraft/Paganism the charge was equal to murder if convicted being 15 years in jail. | Jan 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | why? | Jan 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Aboriginals or something? | Jan 07 11:07 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: it was just a stupid law that got past. | Jan 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | What's the threat associated with paganism? We still do their winter festival (xmas) | Jan 07 11:07 |
| cubexyz | no idea :) | Jan 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | " A majority of Switzerland's men say no in a national referendum on women's right to vote on February, 1st: 654,939 (67%) no vs. 323,727 (31%) yes. " | Jan 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Probably men's rule, for men... | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | It was a case that for 3 years most of the people in parlment were all chrisian rellgionus nuts. | Jan 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | If women cannot vote, who would be able to vote for their right to vote? :-) | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | So they past a anti witchcraft/paganism law. | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Then it sat on the books for 60 odd years never enforced. | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Saudi still executes witches | Jan 07 11:09 |
| cubexyz | what about All Hallow's Eve? Was that pagan too? | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | well, 'witches' (women who they deem worthy of killing) | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Romanians largely believe in witchcraft crap | Jan 07 11:09 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah witch burning | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, but lower profile holiday | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | apparently, the church we occasionally visit (Catholic) doesn't like that holiday | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | only xmas | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | as long as they put together their nativity scene and pretend it was always about baby jeeezus | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | and they even call it Christ-Mass | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | so maybe Halloween would just need some Jesus-theme rebrand for the Church to adopt | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | !google saudi beheads witches | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Saudi woman beheaded for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - CNN.com | http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/ | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Saudi man executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18503550 | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Public executions in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Saudi_Arabia | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Will Saudi Arabia Execute Guest Workers for 'Witchcraft'? - The Daily ... | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/29/indonesia-workers-in-saudi-arabia-are-on-trial-for-witchcraft-some-facing-the-death-penalty.html | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | even man | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | male witch? | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | guest workers too.... | Jan 07 11:11 |
| cubexyz | warlock I think they were called | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | for witchcraft | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | wow, worse than I thought | Jan 07 11:11 |
| oiaohm | All Hallows Eve is a prank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints'_Day on this from the Roman Catholic Church | Jan 07 11:12 |
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| cubexyz | Hallowmas :) | Jan 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz | we went to Alton Towers this year for it | Jan 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz | it was awesome because they had special attractions for it | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | and it was open till 9pm | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is something important Halloween is 24 hours before All Hallows Eve what is meant the be the night of the 1 of november. | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | so you could do rollercoasters at night | Jan 07 11:15 |
| cubexyz | later on Hallowmas morphed into stuff-yourself-with-candymass | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | they had stuff dressed up very professionally | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where Halloween is the 31 of october. | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | even one with chainsaw sounding thing chasing people in the park | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | at night | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I got it wrong. | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | Halloween is a prank on All Hallows Eve | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | some kids came knocking for candy and left a mess in the front garden | Jan 07 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people call Halloween as All Hallows Eve that is wrong. | Jan 07 11:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, we don't want to celebrate the wrong day :) | Jan 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | the fences got skewered and all... | Jan 07 11:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: after all the paganons Roman Catholic Church had killed they are allowed some prankman ship. | Jan 07 11:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where I grew up in Australia we had no Halloween and it still something that is very rarely done in Australia. | Jan 07 11:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Guy Fawkes Night was a lot more populater anyhow. Particularly when explosives were still open to children. Yes blowing up mail boxes. | Jan 07 11:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/new-year-new-patents-act-for-spain.html?showComment=1452164594948#c3797479769466850009 | Jan 07 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | " Kant, you must be joking, right? Don't hold your breath for Spain joining the London Agreement, the unitary patent or otherwise abolishing the requirement for complete translation of EP patents. Not only is the current acting government bitterly opposed to this, but I can't see any of the parties that have won significant amount of votes in the latest general election support that either. " | Jan 07 12:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/685070833161777153 | Jan 07 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Still feel for the mono devs on the .net front! Great year however! https://t.co/YJNcZVdJbb | Jan 07 12:12 | |
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| schestowitz | Don't feel bad for people who serve Microsoft's interests inside Microsoft's competition (like moles) | Jan 07 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/685072366809006080 | Jan 07 12:17 |
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| schestowitz | The issue is, some mono (.NET) dev/apps were starting to replace and push out/repel POSIX-type developers and programs | Jan 07 12:17 |
| schestowitz | developers and especially #google must watch out as #xamarin #microsoft and #cyanogen Inc. try to do the same now | Jan 07 12:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MyNameIsZK1234 https://t.co/c5ei5yl7v6 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 07 12:29 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: .net applications push were undo a lot by Vala. Yes has syntax lot like .net yet a lot better memory foot print and faster. | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2SIK8yNdSB (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 12:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Tux Machines | Jan 07 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion | Jan 07 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion | Tux Machines | Jan 07 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/1201506245668/queen-elizabeth-move-out-buckingham-palace | Jan 07 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us.hellomagazine.com | Queen Elizabeth may move out of Buckingham Palace for renovations [ http://ur1.ca/oe1mq ] | Jan 07 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | "an estimated $236 million" | Jan 07 12:43 |
| schestowitz | "We strongly encourage you to use http://media.ccc.de/ or if you like a | Jan 07 12:53 |
| schestowitz | more simple view http://cdn.media.ccc.de/; " | Jan 07 12:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cdn.media.ccc.de | Index of / | Jan 07 12:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://events.ccc.de/2015/01/03/the-youtube-and-stream-dump-problem/ | Jan 07 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-events.ccc.de | The YouTube and stream dump problem « CCC Event Weblog [ http://ur1.ca/oe1np ] | Jan 07 12:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Does Open Source Have a Place in DevOps? | Jan 07 13:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Does Open Source Have a Place in DevOps? | Tux Machines | Jan 07 13:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mycroft Releases Key AI Component as Open | Jan 07 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mycroft Releases Key AI Component as Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 07 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remix OS is Android for the desktop, and it | Jan 07 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | works with nearly any PC | Jan 07 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/e1aEEeE01z (www.theverge.com) | Jan 07 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Remix OS is Android for the desktop, and it works with nearly any PC | The Verge | Jan 07 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry going all-in on Android phones | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oXfF8WT2l7 (www.cnet.com) | Jan 07 13:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | BlackBerry going all-in on Android phones - CNET | Jan 07 13:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Samsung Z3 and the Galaxy S3: How the | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nostalgic Surrenders to the New | Jan 07 13:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | The Samsung Z3 and the Galaxy S3: How the Nostalgic Surrenders to the New - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 13:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung 2016 SUHD Smart TV to become your Smart | Jan 07 13:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung 2016 SUHD Smart TV to become your Smart Home IoT Hub - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 13:36 | |
| oiaohm | Now that remix OS move is interesting | Jan 07 13:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's First Android Wear Watch Will Be | Jan 07 13:51 |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/06/3736587/ammon-bundy-rosa-parks-hoax/ | Jan 07 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | How A Racist Troll Pretended To Be Ammon Bundy On Twitter And Punked Most Of The Media | ThinkProgress | Jan 07 14:12 | |
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| msb_ | Witch Burning by Christians: Millions of women were tortured to death by Catholics and Protestants from about 1200 onward. Motivations: some were Goddess worshippers, some were wealthy widows whose husbands had died in the many wars and someone wanted their land, some were herbal doctors and midwives who were far more successful medically than male doctors who used the latest scientific discoveries to treat patients -- lead, arsenic, | Jan 07 15:05 |
| msb_ | and mercury. | Jan 07 15:05 |
| msb_ | Some of the women were suspended over a fire from a pulley, and when they lost consciousness, the Christians pulled them up until they awakened and could feel more pain, then lowered them into the fire again. | Jan 07 15:06 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: These Christians were as monstrous as ISIL and the Saudis are today. | Jan 07 15:07 |
| schestowitz | those who write history... | Jan 07 15:08 |
| msb_ | I suspect that thousands of years ago, Jews did similar mass murders. | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | (and omit or change the parts that don't suit their interests) | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | msb_: fundamental difference | Jan 07 15:08 |
| msb_ | Judaeo-Christian-Islamic religion is the scourge of mankind. | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | Islam and Catholicism tries to spread | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | Christians used to do that by tortureing and killing people where it's harder | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Esp. the Spanish empire did this | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | But that kind of stopped | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | They still try to spread | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | but not violently | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Islam has always resorted to violent means | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | it still, in some countries, does this | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Judaism doesn't try to spread by conversion | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | neither by force or without | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | and it's very very strict when it comes to who's allowed "in the club" | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | even then converts are threated as whatever word they make up | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | "Goyim", "Shiksa", gentile, etc. | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | so that's an opposite kind of problem | Jan 07 15:11 |
| msb_ | Ask the Palestinians. Israel is now spraying herbicides on what remains of Palestinian farmland. A new method of genocide. | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | all 3 religions are monotheistic and Abrahamic, but they're not identical | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | extermination in symbolism | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | plants first | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | later "mow the grass" | Jan 07 15:11 |
| msb_ | The Israelis have tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. They've used white phosphorus and nerve gas. | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | !google us mow the grass drone children | Jan 07 15:12 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ex-Drone Operator Says Program Is 'Good At Killing People, Just ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/drones-isis-terrorism-barack-obama_564e03d6e4b00b7997f99af0 | Jan 07 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Life as a drone operator: 'Ever step on ants and never give it another ... | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/life-as-a-drone-pilot-creech-air-force-base-nevada | Jan 07 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Drone Whistleblower: Pilots Often High on Drugs; Refer To Kids As ... | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/drone-whistleblower-pilots-often-high-drugs-refer-kids-fun-size-terrorists | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | msb_: right, but so do other nations | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | which doesn't justify what Israel does | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Some nations also do this unprovoked | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | See countries even outside the M-E and Africa | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, you know the other examples | Jan 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Inc. those of the US, where you live.... | Jan 07 15:13 |
| msb_ | Israelis were never provoked. The Zionists had no right to Palestine in the first place. | Jan 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz | US didn't defend itself from Vietnam | Jan 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Yet it killed millions there, in a cruel campaign of carpet-bombing that simply disregards foreigners' lives | Jan 07 15:13 |
| msb_ | Yes, the US is the most murderous nation on Earth. | Jan 07 15:13 |
| msb_ | All throughout the 20th century and now this one. | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | even later 19th centruty | Jan 07 15:14 |
| msb_ | Wealthy Americans provided 75% of Hitler's funding for WW2, in order to eliminate socialists. | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | but people don't remember this far | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | esp. now pre-WW1 | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | A lot in the US probably don't get taught the Spanish-US War | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Or the takeover of a lot of Mexico | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | or the "territories" (euphemism for colonies) | Jan 07 15:15 |
| msb_ | Native Americans -- tens or hundreds of millions murdered by US colonists. | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | msb_: that's a BS number | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | 75% of Hitler's funding for WW | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | german had its own funding too, and means of production more importantly | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | That's like claiming that Israel's IDF is funded 75% by the British | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | or China's army being 75% funded by Russia | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | it even sounds absurd because it's total nonsense | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | show me the accounting | Jan 07 15:16 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Jan 07 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Jan 07 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | or rescind these weird statements that make this channel look like k00ks | Jan 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz | That doesn't show 75% of overall funding coming from people in the US | Jan 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz | You made it up or misinterpreted the numbers | Jan 07 15:17 |
| msb_ | You read all those references in 4 seconds? | Jan 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz | The US as a government/state didn't even want to be associated with the Nazis even before the war | Jan 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | more so than Argentina with its German ties.... it officially staying sort of neutral | Jan 07 15:18 |
| msb_ | I said "wealthy americans" not the US govt. | Jan 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | msb_: Germany's GDP before invasion of Poland was a lot greater than all the money that came from the US combined | Jan 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | By orders of magnitude | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | This is an absurd discussion | Jan 07 15:19 |
| msb_ | You don't want to look at the information. | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | because even engaging in it is like debating with someone whether the Holocaust was a hoax | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | I saw your 'information' before | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | It's a list of donors | Jan 07 15:20 |
| msb_ | It's hundreds of pages. | Jan 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | What you do is trying to frame it as though the US perpetrated WW2 and was the leading force with 75% of funding behind the Nazis, which is BS | Jan 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | next thing you'll say it, Israel controls or owns the US | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Or Rothschields control the whole world etc. | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | You lost the plot | Jan 07 15:21 |
| msb_ | The US did perpetrate WW2 to destroy socialism. | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | no | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Take your nuttery to a non-technical forum | Jan 07 15:22 |
| schestowitz | You just sound like you need some lterature | Jan 07 15:22 |
| msb_ | Israel controls the US well enough to get US support in genociding the Palestinians plus billions of dollars every year for weapons, plus the initital fissionable material for its nuclear weapons program which now has about 400 nuclear bombs. | Jan 07 15:22 |
| msb_ | I have 5 excellent videos plus web pages proving that the US did the 9/11 attacks, but you won't watch them because you think you know it's not true. So you refuse to access the information, as you have been programmed to do by the corporate media. | Jan 07 15:25 |
| schestowitz | toss is elsewhere | Jan 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz | not only do you bring politics here but you dump batshit nuttery here | Jan 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz | and no other forum would want that | Jan 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz | so please stop | Jan 07 15:26 |
| msb_ | The global US war against socialism after WW2: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#American_Holocaust | Jan 07 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone [ http://ur1.ca/g23vd ] | Jan 07 15:26 | |
| msb_ | You are _lying_ when you call this information "nuttery". | Jan 07 15:27 |
| msb_ | You are the one who introduced what you call "politics" here today: " <schestowitz> US didn't defend itself from Vietnam" | Jan 07 15:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I would say you are nuts in a lot of ways. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Study-estimates-Israels-nuclear-weapon-count-stands-at-115-434834 Sorry the max weapon count for Israel is 150. | Jan 07 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jpost.com | Study estimates Israel's nuclear weapon count stands at 115 - Israel News - Jerusalem Post [ http://ur1.ca/oe264 ] | Jan 07 15:32 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: and 150 is at the outside. 400 weapons is just not possible with the supplies Israel has. | Jan 07 15:33 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: You love systemd and you claim that cannabis is harmful. You are a vicious liar. | Jan 07 15:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: You make a mistake. I did not love systemd. I said it had to happen. | Jan 07 15:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: medical data exists on cannabis harmful effects. | Jan 07 15:34 |
| msb_ | Jerusalem Post underestimates the number of Israeli nukes -- big whoop. | Jan 07 15:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: other groups have performed the same study. X about of fuel only produces so much material to make nukes from. | Jan 07 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course the fact the limit is 150 that does not mean they don't have 400 non nuke dirty bombs. | Jan 07 15:36 |
| oiaohm | The reality here you are the one being a vicious liar. | Jan 07 15:37 |
| oiaohm | msb_: really 150 Nukes is still a hell of a weapon stock pile. | Jan 07 15:42 |
| msb_ | I would not say that 2015 was the year of Open Source, because the ruling psychopaths have destr0yed Linux as an alternative to MS for easy mass adoption: 1 systemd 2 UEFI 3 KDE5/Plasma 4 SJW vs Linus. | Jan 07 15:42 |
| msb_ | Facts about Israel: http://cosmicpenguin.com/IsraelInfoCensored.html | Jan 07 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Israel, Palestine, the 9/11 Attacks, "Terrorism" | Jan 07 15:43 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: the fact the number of possible weapons on that page is wrong you have to wonder how much is wrong. | Jan 07 15:45 |
| oiaohm | msb_: hydrogen bombs using the smallest core possible(ok not a good yielding weapon) is 200 weapons and that is. | Jan 07 15:45 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Your lies depend on claiming to know all of Israel's sources of uranium, which they keep very secret. | Jan 07 15:47 |
| oiaohm | No it does not. | Jan 07 15:47 |
| oiaohm | The calculation I am using depends on the size processing plant you have access to. | Jan 07 15:48 |
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| oiaohm | Israels processing plants running 24/7 can only produce so much weapon grade material. | Jan 07 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tizen/Linux/Samsung https://t.co/vbYAFbsGrG | Jan 07 15:48 |
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| msb_ | They also keep that very secret. | Jan 07 15:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: its not very secret | Jan 07 15:48 |
| oiaohm | The fun fact processing plants give off signals. | Jan 07 15:49 |
| oiaohm | You cannot hide them. | Jan 07 15:49 |
| oiaohm | Of course I would not put it pass Israel the fact that they would want people to think they have a larger number of weapons then what they could have physically produced. | Jan 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The three articles about the EPO's mistreatment of small applicants have been manually translated into Spanish by a native English speaker (links inline in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO under the respective articles). It doesn't seem safe (yet) to publish anything about politicians or complaints to the EPO's "support", as anonymisation is hard and it can compromise an ongoing process. I shall wait for the right time with these... | Jan 07 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jan 07 15:51 | |
| oiaohm | is more than possible. | Jan 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | msb_: you keep bringing nutty political views here. They're not even views, they're lies | Jan 07 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Please stop it, you distract the channel | Jan 07 15:52 |
| schestowitz | instead of talking about tech a lot of effort it spent correcting the diarrhea you habitually spill here | Jan 07 15:53 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: About once every month or two, when people pick a fight with me. oiaohm spends hours here every other day or so pushing systemd -- the worst thing ever to happen to Open Source. But you don't mind. | Jan 07 15:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: also there is something else there is a reason why you normally would not make a hydrogen bomb with a small core as a defensive item. tritium that is key to a hydrogen bomb has to replaced about every 2 decades. So number of hydrogen bomb is limited by countries tritium production. | Jan 07 15:59 |
| oiaohm | You might not like systemd I don't 100 percent like it either. I accept that it something that had to happen. | Jan 07 16:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: explain to me why it took until systemd started getting developed for someone to make x-initrd,mount option in fstab. | Jan 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | at least systemd is on topic | Jan 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | and something may come out of it in a technical site/forum/channel | Jan 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | unlike rantings about history and politics | Jan 07 16:06 |
| msb_ | Yes, the ruination of Linux, which was mankind's hope for software and communication freedom. | Jan 07 16:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the reality is lots of issues with logging failures of like failure mounting /var directory that existed under sysvinit are fixed by the x-initrd.mount option. Also items like fdisk programs under Linux to expect somewhere writeable at times to record failures. | Jan 07 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Running primary fstab/fdisk in the initrd with a writeable ram file system makes so much sense it not funny. | Jan 07 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Before systemd no one bothered mapping out from start to finish how a Linux system should boot. And where everything should be performed. | Jan 07 16:10 |
| oiaohm | So like it or not systemd has had to happen. Of course systemd could require replacing with something better. | Jan 07 16:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: this is where you say I like systemd is wrong. I point out many faults in systemd. | Jan 07 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/685131973623418881 | Jan 07 16:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz When I've tried using the AMD Catalyst driver @linuxmint 17.2 system, doesn't work at all. Reverted to generic driver | Jan 07 16:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hour of Code Volunteer: Kids See No Barriers to | Jan 07 16:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hour of Code Volunteer: Kids See No Barriers to Open Source Coding | Tux Machines | Jan 07 16:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window | Jan 07 16:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager | Tux Machines | Jan 07 16:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Interesting Difference Between AMD & NVIDIA | Jan 07 16:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Drivers When Comparing System Usage | Jan 07 16:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | An Interesting Difference Between AMD & NVIDIA Linux Drivers When Comparing System Usage - Phoronix | Jan 07 16:37 | |
| MinceR | 163419 < oiaohm> msb_: You make a mistake. I did not love systemd. I said it had to happen. | Jan 07 16:38 |
| MinceR | and advertised it regularly | Jan 07 16:38 |
| MinceR | and attacked people for criticizing its "design" | Jan 07 16:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to be truthful exactly more people are looking at the boot design than what has been bothered about from the start of Linux to the start of systemd. | Jan 07 16:40 |
| MinceR | yay systemd | Jan 07 16:41 |
| MinceR | more people will develop init systems which will never be used due to systemd dependence | Jan 07 16:42 |
| MinceR | it's so great | Jan 07 16:42 |
| oiaohm | People developing half init systems that never get used has happened for over 30 years. | Jan 07 16:43 |
| oiaohm | Due to the fact they were not sysvinit compadible. | Jan 07 16:43 |
| oiaohm | so nothing on the dependance side has really changed. | Jan 07 16:43 |
| MinceR | sysvinit dependency affects only daemon start/stop scripts, which are easily substituted for other service managers | Jan 07 16:44 |
| MinceR | unlike the hairball of dbus APIs lendows depends on | Jan 07 16:44 |
| MinceR | in fact, bsd init/rc was used quite a lot already | Jan 07 16:45 |
| MinceR | so oiaohm is here again, advertising systemd as not being so different from sysvinit | Jan 07 16:46 |
| oiaohm | To be correct bsd init/rc does not answer how to talk cleaning to the init system from inside a bsd jail. | Jan 07 16:46 |
| oiaohm | The dbus hairball is explained by attempting to solve that problem. | Jan 07 16:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of places systemd does not change the envornment that much. | Jan 07 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Even logind being designed around dbus gives problems when you want to run users in properly isolated containers. | Jan 07 16:48 |
| MinceR | 174631 < oiaohm> To be correct bsd init/rc does not answer how to talk cleaning to the init system from inside a bsd jail. | Jan 07 16:49 |
| MinceR | most programs do not care about this | Jan 07 16:49 |
| MinceR | and the dbus hairball is addressing the problem of "not enough stuff hard-depending on redhat-controlled crap" | Jan 07 16:50 |
| oiaohm | it becomes important problem causing jails under BSD not being used as much as they could be. | Jan 07 16:50 |
| oiaohm | Systemd from the start had the idea that kdbus would replace it dbus usage. | Jan 07 16:50 |
| oiaohm | Of course that never happened. | Jan 07 16:51 |
| oiaohm | And a lot of fixed in systemd design were put as fix when kdbus works. Kinda stupid. | Jan 07 16:51 |
| MinceR | the systemd "design" is a fractal of stupidity | Jan 07 16:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd has basically started building a house by starting by building the roof in mid air. | Jan 07 16:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and wondering why you have problems. | Jan 07 16:52 |
| MinceR | i have problems because redhat is behaving like microsoft | Jan 07 16:52 |
| oiaohm | My point of view they should have started at the kernel IPC. | Jan 07 16:52 |
| oiaohm | Making a proper IPC that works across containers. | Jan 07 16:53 |
| MinceR | no, they should have started at recruiting properly trained software engineers | Jan 07 16:54 |
| MinceR | and putting them in charge | Jan 07 16:54 |
| MinceR | or they should have left the whole thing alone | Jan 07 16:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Microsoft normally starts with someone making the floor and someone making the roof with each party having different measurements then attempting to glue both sided up to each other. | Jan 07 16:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: properly trained software engineers does not fix split brain problem Microsoft suffers from. | Jan 07 16:55 |
| MinceR | microsoft too "works" with the wrong principles, the wrong goals, with clueless code monkeys at the oars and evil suits at the helm | Jan 07 16:55 |
| MinceR | it would help, though | Jan 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: serousally most of Microsoft programs are formally trained. | Jan 07 16:56 |
| MinceR | yeah, empty heads with certifications | Jan 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but management has created a split brain mine field. | Jan 07 16:56 |
| MinceR | then again, even with capable people m$ would probably only aim to destroy | Jan 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | I still remember seeing a NT/Windows kernel developer stating that Windows can never be as fast as Linux kernel due to how much split brain microsoft has. | Jan 07 16:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes that was person with all the correct formals. | Jan 07 16:57 |
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| MinceR | what about this one? https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/microsoft-insider-on-why-microsoft-sucks-and-rocks/6907 | Jan 07 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-what.thedailywtf.com | Microsoft insider on why Microsoft sucks (and rocks) - General - What the Daily WTF? [ http://ur1.ca/oe2i6 ] | Jan 07 16:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I would not say Microsoft is clueless code monkeys. Clueless managers of Developers kinda ruines everything. | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's mostly evil suits and a few clueless code monkeys | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | but you can tell that their software is indefensibly bad | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/hyperv/netvsc_drv.c?id=3a494e710367c0a233d86bcde9853781859fc008#n784 | Jan 07 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [ http://ur1.ca/n45bs ] | Jan 07 16:59 | |
| MinceR | like this | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | and their design is also horrible, like the winblows nt kernel and other subsystems | Jan 07 17:00 |
| oiaohm | Yep fun of changing to systemd and disappering sysvinit broken hyperv drivers. | Jan 07 17:01 |
| MinceR | it doesn't only break with systemd | Jan 07 17:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: good example of how trying to use something other than sysvinit based solution with Linux can bring a huge level of strangeness out of system. | Jan 07 17:02 |
| MinceR | no, it fails even on debian 7 with sysvinit | Jan 07 17:03 |
| MinceR | because the service is not "network" there, it's "networking" | Jan 07 17:03 |
| oiaohm | That right network named something else. | Jan 07 17:03 |
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| MinceR | typical inflexible m$ "design" | Jan 07 17:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: did you notice the http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-user-space-apps/ call_usermodehelper there. | Jan 07 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibm.com | Kernel APIs, Part 1: Invoking user-space applications from the kernel [ http://ur1.ca/oe2iz ] | Jan 07 17:06 | |
| MinceR | i don't think i've looked at that page before | Jan 07 17:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the existence of call_usermodehelper is part why I see moving terminal processing out of kernel space as a big problem. | Jan 07 17:06 |
| MinceR | another part is that they're plotting to move it into systemd | Jan 07 17:07 |
| MinceR | no systemd, no terminals | Jan 07 17:07 |
| MinceR | systemd crashes? time to power-cycle. | Jan 07 17:07 |
| oiaohm | Please note call_usermodehelper means terminals don't have to be PID1. | Jan 07 17:08 |
| MinceR | it will also break old distro userland versions | Jan 07 17:09 |
| MinceR | there was supposed to be a rule against that | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Not unless kernel ships with it. | Jan 07 17:09 |
| MinceR | but i guess everything is permitted in the quest for forcing systemd on everybody | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Ops | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Not unelss the kernel ships without it. | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | So at some point to obey the kernel rules the software console would have to join the kernel code base. | Jan 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | i can see the obvious "solution" there | Jan 07 17:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and you have seen how hard kernel developers block crap. | Jan 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | and it's called "ksystemd" | Jan 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, i've seen how none of them except one blocked crap | Jan 07 17:11 |
| MinceR | i can already see the talking points claiming how much faster systemd (and boot!) will be in ring 0 | Jan 07 17:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not seen any of that. | Jan 07 17:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have in fact seen other arguments. | Jan 07 17:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: running in ring 0 in Linux kernel comes with some savage teeth. | Jan 07 17:12 |
| MinceR | does poettering care? | Jan 07 17:13 |
| MinceR | does gregkh care? | Jan 07 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://web.yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~tosh/kml/ | Jan 07 17:17 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: how far to you think systemd would get facing talc | Jan 07 17:18 |
| MinceR | depends on how they blackmail Linus into merging it | Jan 07 17:18 |
| MinceR | or how they force distros to switch to Garrettux, where it will already be merged | Jan 07 17:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Garrettux what is that refering to. | Jan 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | matthew garrett's linux fork, obviously | Jan 07 17:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ok but most distrobutions did not do that. | Jan 07 17:21 |
| oiaohm | Debian did not. | Jan 07 17:21 |
| MinceR | they will, once systemd depends on it | Jan 07 17:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd first conferene they end up admitting forcing Distributions by making systemd depend on it does not work. | Jan 07 17:22 |
| MinceR | or once in the name of interoperability they "standardize" on yum/dnf/rpm package management | Jan 07 17:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically you are talking about something systemd developers tried and failed. It end up with maintainers applying distrobution patching to remove dependance. | Jan 07 17:23 |
| MinceR | and to reduce the work of systemd/Linux distro maintainers, they simply rebadge fedora and release it as their new distro release | Jan 07 17:23 |
| MinceR | and then fedora "upgrades" users from Linux to Garrettux | Jan 07 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Then Centos and others don't even follow. | Jan 07 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes even in the RPM camp they had rejection of that idea. | Jan 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | i've seen such interest groups try such things over and over, until they succeeded | Jan 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | does TTIP ring a bell? | Jan 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | that rejection was probably back when they cared | Jan 07 17:25 |
| MinceR | adoption of systemd shows they no longer do | Jan 07 17:25 |
| MinceR | once systemd comes with systemdnf and/or systemd-rpm and can't function without it, you'll see opposition disappear | Jan 07 17:25 |
| oiaohm | Only features in kernel space systemd was able to force to be on were normally on anyhow like cgroups. | Jan 07 17:26 |
| oiaohm | So there is strict limitation to systemd ablity to push MinceR they tried for 5 years and run into the same road blocks. | Jan 07 17:27 |
| oiaohm | So not like TTIP where they were able to keep on making small fragement process. | Jan 07 17:27 |
| MinceR | i doubt debian will resist anything from them anymore | Jan 07 17:28 |
| oiaohm | process. Progress. | Jan 07 17:28 |
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| MinceR | just like TTIP, most people got tired of resisting or forgot that the fascists didn't give up | Jan 07 17:28 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: kernel side is equally stuborn. | Jan 07 17:28 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: server deployment world is paid 24/7 to maintain them. | Jan 07 17:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so the server deployment world is the most powerful fascists of Linux world. | Jan 07 17:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: something the systemd group cannot presure past. | Jan 07 17:29 |
| MinceR | if you want to see how "stubborn" the kernel side is, see who stopped kdbus. | Jan 07 17:30 |
| oiaohm | Did you not notice to merge at first Linus sent to back and said it had to be merged with deployed Linux kernels. | Jan 07 17:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I guess you missed the level of rejection. | Jan 07 17:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: think about it if you get a feature Linux kernel mainline what is the point if no distrobution builds it. | Jan 07 17:33 |
| MinceR | think about what would happen if they got rid of Linus or blackmailed him | Jan 07 17:33 |
| MinceR | nodoby else resisted that obviously crap design built for the obviously wrong reasons | Jan 07 17:33 |
| oiaohm | Would have had the fate of a few other kernel features. | Jan 07 17:34 |
| MinceR | and the hype-V crap did make it into mainline | Jan 07 17:34 |
| oiaohm | Got into mainline and built by almost no distrobutions. | Jan 07 17:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: linus is only one of many hurdles. | Jan 07 17:34 |
| MinceR | so, is Linux now a landfill where crap design and crap code is collected? | Jan 07 17:34 |
| oiaohm | When a feature is not being used by many distrobutions you see a request appear for its removal. | Jan 07 17:35 |
| oiaohm | What normally ends in removal. | Jan 07 17:35 |
| oiaohm | If it does not end in removal support from distrobutions can disappear. | Jan 07 17:35 |
| MinceR | so if i send the output of `strings /dev/urandom` to the mailing list and ask for it to be merged, it will take a turn in mainline before being removed? | Jan 07 17:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Not how it works. | Jan 07 17:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 100 random crap is not going to pass sparse right. | Jan 07 17:38 |
| oiaohm | So there is a min quality standard. | Jan 07 17:38 |
| MinceR | unless you prefix it with /* and postfix it with */ | Jan 07 17:38 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty low standard, considering hype-V | Jan 07 17:38 |
| oiaohm | Please also note hyper-v is only in the staging section of the kernel tree meaning nothing else can be built depending on it. | Jan 07 17:39 |
| oiaohm | To make it simple to remove at some point in future. | Jan 07 17:39 |
| MinceR | is "staging" the Linux name of "trashcan"? | Jan 07 17:39 |
| oiaohm | Yes it is. | Jan 07 17:39 |
| oiaohm | Getting into staging you still have to pass having sparse inspect your code. | Jan 07 17:40 |
| MinceR | will sparse say "it's utterly braindead to hardcode stuff like this in the kernel"? | Jan 07 17:40 |
| oiaohm | To get out of staging you have to have many distrobutions maintainers sign off that its ok. | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | that shouldn't be a problem | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | redhat management controls RHELl, fedora, centos | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | debian takes their orders from redhat | Jan 07 17:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not enough. | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | ubuntu agrees with everything debian does | Jan 07 17:42 |
| oiaohm | You need signs offs from google, facebook, rackspace and others. | Jan 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | at this point they'll just claim it's enough | Jan 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | which distros do those maintain? | Jan 07 17:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: their own. | Jan 07 17:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: big server companies have their own internal private Linux OS solutions. | Jan 07 17:43 |
| oiaohm | Piss them off Linux foundation ends up without most of their funding. | Jan 07 17:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat might seam big but they are only a small once you find the true big boys. | Jan 07 17:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sparse is not smart enough to find a lot of hardcoded stupidity. | Jan 07 17:46 |
| MinceR | they're big enough to destroy gnu and unix, apparently | Jan 07 17:46 |
| MinceR | see, that's why trusting sparse to catch such idiocy is not enough | Jan 07 17:46 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Please note passing sparse and making no complier warnings only gets you to staging. | Jan 07 17:47 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: once it gets to staging the big boys look at it then decide if they will vote to keep it or vote to reject it. | Jan 07 17:48 |
| MinceR | which of the "big boys" realized systemd and kdbus are utterly destructive crap? | Jan 07 17:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: did not make it that far. | Jan 07 17:48 |
| MinceR | why, which distro are they using? | Jan 07 17:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: google amazon facebook rackspace all make there own internal distorbution named something strange. Like google search runs on a OS halfway between debian and redhat with custom packaged gluing that into 1 bit. | Jan 07 17:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with a completley custom built kernel. | Jan 07 17:51 |
| MinceR | so based on debian and redhat | Jan 07 17:51 |
| MinceR | both of those are lendows | Jan 07 17:51 |
| MinceR | shows you how much clue they have | Jan 07 17:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no those servers use a init system that is not sysvinit or systemd. | Jan 07 17:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the stuff the big boys run is highly strange stuff. | Jan 07 17:53 |
| MinceR | do they rely on YUM to make their systems impossible to update or reconfigure? | Jan 07 17:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: customised apt-get | Jan 07 17:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes apt-get able to raid YUM repositories. | Jan 07 17:54 |
| MinceR | but can it reproduce YUM bugs resulting in total brokenness? | Jan 07 17:54 |
| oiaohm | Please note I said raid. | Jan 07 17:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: reach into YUM repository and rebuild it locally as a apt style repository. | Jan 07 17:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Likely Be Delayed | Jan 07 19:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Will Likely Be Delayed | Tux Machines | Jan 07 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FOSS Databases https://t.co/u3kRgKP5TV | Jan 07 19:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Databases | Tux Machines | Jan 07 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Linux software for mission-critical functions | Jan 07 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to highly customizable Android software for | Jan 07 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | infotainment services." https://t.co/LwUH40oBDG | Jan 07 19:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | GPU Virtualization: The Next Step in Automotive Innovation | Linux.com | Jan 07 19:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Project mourns the loss of Ian Murdock | Jan 07 19:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Ikey Doherty, Solus | Jan 07 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Ikey Doherty, Solus - My Linux Rig | Jan 07 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In memory of Ian #Murdock | Jan 07 19:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | “loss of Ian Murdock is still making the | Jan 07 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | headlines” https://t.co/pu3axgLIxu | Jan 07 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | In memory of Ian Murdock - TechzimTechzim | Jan 07 19:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Debian Domination, Unstable Fedora, Simple Elementary | Jan 07 19:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/685185966840102912 | Jan 07 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: Facebook wants to kill everything that isn't Facebook. cc @schestowitz https://t.co/rs1p6JibqB | Jan 07 20:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TIME: Facebook wants to kill phone numbers forever https://t.co/TPAb0tAVLR | Jan 07 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's why it's asking people for their phone numbers (to replace) ;-) | Jan 07 20:05 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 07 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Longing to bin Photoshop? Rock-solid GIMP a | Jan 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | major leap forward https://t.co/5DOArZDIfK | Jan 07 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Longing to bin Photoshop? Rock-solid GIMP a major leap forward • The Register | Jan 07 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, | Jan 07 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android-based Remix OS https://t.co/aXkZN6iWWQ | Jan 07 20:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/otqlKs0DAd | Jan 07 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, Android-based Remix OS | Techrights | Jan 07 20:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 07 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/DgeweZuQSR | Jan 07 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 07 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ze5aO5fWfB | Jan 07 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 07 20:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 07 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux: Kernel, Graphics https://t.co/qWi4rCi45K | Jan 07 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux: Kernel, Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 07 20:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 7/1/2016: Linux Mint 18 Previews, | Jan 07 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android-based Remix OS https://t.co/aXkZN6iWWQ | Jan 07 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (techrights.org) | Jan 07 22:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-x86 Developer Says Console OS Is | Jan 07 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stealing the Code, Warns Kickstarter Users of | Jan 07 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scam https://t.co/liWAWLqH23 | Jan 07 22:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Developer Says Console OS Is Stealing the Code, Warns Kickstarter Users of Scam | Tux Machines | Jan 07 22:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Android-x86 Developer Says Console OS Is Stealing the...' | Jan 07 22:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nextbit Robin Android M smartphone shipping to | Jan 07 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | early backers week of 16 February | Jan 07 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6JT0c1TVWO (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 07 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Nextbit Robin Android M smartphone shipping to early backers week of 16 February | ZDNet | Jan 07 22:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines App: Video Editor Now Available for the Samsung | Jan 07 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Z3 https://t.co/9DwW7zovKZ | Jan 07 22:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | App: Video Editor Now Available for the Samsung Z3 - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 22:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Honor Band Z1 an $80 smartwatch that | Jan 07 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | skips Android Wear: CES 2016 | Jan 07 22:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Huawei Honor Band Z1 an $80 smartwatch that skips Android Wear video - CNET | Jan 07 22:43 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/why-didnt-hillary-clinton-negotiate-north-korea | Jan 07 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Why Didn't Hillary Clinton Negotiate With North Korea?!? | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/oe45r ] | Jan 07 23:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "There will be a number of Tizen talks" at | Jan 07 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fosdem in a few weeks. https://t.co/cTNfyJFOe4 | Jan 07 23:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Developer: Tizen Community Dinner at FOSDEM 2016 - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 23:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rocket League will be on SteamOS & Linux before | Jan 07 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Xbox One in February | Jan 07 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Bs5etwYVTR (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 07 23:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Rocket League will be on SteamOS & Linux before the Xbox One in February | GamingOnLinux | Jan 07 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/685231091494567937 | Jan 07 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Zaurus revisited. But much better. | Jan 07 23:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bromleypopulo favourited '"There will be a number of Tizen talks"...' | Jan 07 23:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iConsole @tuxmachines Our response was posted weeks ago, | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | we weren't contacted by Softpedia: | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MWVYPoIJ87 (www.kickstarter.com) | Jan 07 23:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kickstarter.com | Console OS: Dual-Boot Android, Remastered for The PC by Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. — Kickstarter | Jan 07 23:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iConsole @tuxmachines We also can't seem to register to | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your site to post a comment. Perhaps you can | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | share the reply link too for fairness? | Jan 07 23:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Jan 07 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.3.1 released | Alpine Linux | Jan 07 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 23 Updated Respins coming, Saying | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | goodbye to Fedora 22 Respins | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YTgchwIiyx | Jan 07 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com | Fedora 23 Updated Respins coming, Saying goodbye to Fedora 22 Respins | Linux-modder's Tech Corner | Jan 07 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Now Supports Screen Rotation On | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland https://t.co/YzuK1Pl4Y3 | Jan 07 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME's Mutter Now Supports Screen Rotation On Wayland - Phoronix | Jan 07 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1SP0FHkzCm (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jan 07 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux Journal | Jan 07 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qYvCAyga9q (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 07 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | self-driving cars https://t.co/mGnTogNH84 | Jan 07 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for self-driving cars · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 23:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart | Jan 07 23:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart cars · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jan 07 23:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 23:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for | Jan 07 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | self-driving cars https://t.co/3aVlBPCK0t | Jan 07 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for self-driving cars | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart | Jan 07 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | cars https://t.co/eBAIzRqJ9K | Jan 07 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart cars | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Jan 07 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3zujvx/why_linux_community_in_the_past_were_so_harsh/ | Jan 08 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "I remember back in the days using IRC on undernet servers. And got into a channel named Linux_support or something in those lines." | Jan 08 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why linux community in the past were so harsh ? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oe4h7 ] | Jan 08 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ztjvz/i_miss_defragmenting_my_drives/ | Jan 08 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I miss defragmenting my drives : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oe4hc ] | Jan 08 00:14 | |
| schestowitz | "It would be nice to have an ext4 defragmenting program so I could see graphically how unfragmented my drives are. Though, it would be a pretty useless program otherwise." | Jan 08 00:14 |
| cubexyz | Linux people aren't snobs :) | Jan 08 00:25 |
| cubexyz | they are johnny-come-latelys | Jan 08 00:25 |
| MinceR | we didn't decide to not be born earlier :> | Jan 08 00:26 |
| cubexyz | good grief you haven't seen anything | Jan 08 00:26 |
| cubexyz | the earlier IRC Linuxers were _punks_ | Jan 08 00:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/685256940969017345 | Jan 08 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CDSRV: #devops https://t.co/TOFGlLmVe9 | Jan 08 00:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Introducing dumb-init, an init system for Docker containers https://t.co/Q3wQXTdonU sounds like a good name for #systemd | Jan 08 00:30 | |
| cubexyz | even the original Unixers weren't snobs | Jan 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | now the IBMers, now you're getting into snob territory | Jan 08 00:30 |
| cubexyz | but all that is dead now | Jan 08 00:31 |
| cubexyz | now I don't really miss the IBM stuff | Jan 08 00:33 |
| cubexyz | some of the PDP stuff was pretty good, of course the IBMers looked down on minis | Jan 08 00:35 |
| cubexyz | to be part of BSD and the Berkeley scene meant you were an anti-snob | Jan 08 00:36 |
| cubexyz | now were they nice and polite? no | Jan 08 00:37 |
| cubexyz | but the rudeness was an IRC thing, not really a Unix/Linux thing | Jan 08 00:37 |
| cubexyz | originally usenet and all was fairly polite | Jan 08 00:39 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Street_Cars101 followed @tuxmachines | Jan 08 00:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks...' | Jan 08 00:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by | Jan 08 01:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source SDN code https://t.co/zhxoaiwqAZ | Jan 08 01:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 08 01:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bheron/status/685265997834653696 | Jan 08 01:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by open-source SDN code • The Register | Jan 08 01:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bheron: @schestowitz Hi! :) By this I'm guessing you mean how it looks. Am I correct? If so, you're right. We do need a little more of that. | Jan 08 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bheron/status/685267888438140928 | Jan 08 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bheron: @schestowitz Currently GNUstep's API is following Cocoa. It's just the look which is outdated. | Jan 08 01:38 | |
| schestowitz | [00:30] <cubexyz> now the IBMers, now you're getting into snob territory | Jan 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | That's what I've read... | Jan 08 01:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/aGefw2nEkl | Jan 08 03:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 08 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by | Jan 08 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source SDN code https://t.co/tOtlQfkfPy | Jan 08 03:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by open-source SDN code | Tux Machines | Jan 08 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box | Jan 08 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box | Tux Machines | Jan 08 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7KqgT4f2Re (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Tux Machines | Jan 08 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CjsuKaqEZA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Tux Machines | Jan 08 04:12 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, part of the rudeness of Linux people on IRC was RTFM | Jan 08 05:11 |
| cubexyz | which people were not doing | Jan 08 05:11 |
| cubexyz | so a certain percentage of people got rude | Jan 08 05:12 |
| cubexyz | but the mistake that some linux people made/make is not recognize the importance of what came before | Jan 08 05:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. the importance of Thompson and Ritchie et all | Jan 08 05:13 |
| cubexyz | in other words the importance of Unix | Jan 08 05:13 |
| cubexyz | it was the main template for a lot of things | Jan 08 05:13 |
| cubexyz | of course GNU was/is also important | Jan 08 05:14 |
| cubexyz | that's why I use both Linux and BSD | Jan 08 05:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Akonadi – still alive and rocking | Jan 08 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3c5E8aMLMt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Akonadi – still alive and rocking | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lvDHdCZByG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jkgWeqBYAJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the living room https://t.co/LMeSfo5iws | Jan 08 07:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers the living room | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:36 | |
| cubexyz | this should be interesting... NOS burner... from 2004 | Jan 08 07:48 |
| cubexyz | success! | Jan 08 07:50 |
| cubexyz | reuse wins again | Jan 08 07:50 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Its not just failure to recognize before. Reason why Linux stuck with sysvinit with major defects is lack of proper evaluation of solution. | Jan 08 08:08 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Its simple things systemd has a lot of people upset about its parallel fdisk. http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/bootup.7.html but most don't read this. | Jan 08 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'man7.org' ( status 0 @ http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/bootup.7.html ) | Jan 08 08:10 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note the fdisk and mounting of partitions in the initrd systemd prescribes. This solves issue of where should logging go if a core file system fails fdisk. | Jan 08 08:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android smart TVs could expose users to cyber | Jan 08 09:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | home invasion https://t.co/IGecbbNUes | Jan 08 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Android smart TVs could expose users to cyber home invasion - SC Magazine | Jan 08 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands On With Freetel's Crazy Android Flip | Jan 08 09:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phone https://t.co/FuaYt5w5KE (www.pcmag.com) | Jan 08 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com | Hands On With Freetel's Crazy Android Flip Phone | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | Jan 08 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Polaroid arrives at CES 2016 with not just one, | Jan 08 09:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | but two Android smartphones | Jan 08 09:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/izetQDXXZV (www.digitaltrends.com) | Jan 08 09:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Polaroid Announces The Snap And Power Android Handsets | Digital Trends | Jan 08 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry's Chen Optimistic About Future With | Jan 08 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android https://t.co/ML2nAEBwPJ | Jan 08 09:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.informationweek.com | BlackBerry's Chen Optimistic About Future With Android - InformationWeek | Jan 08 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi-based home AI project open-sources | Jan 08 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | key components https://t.co/c4UTixulLz | Jan 08 09:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Raspberry Pi-based home AI project open-sources key components | Network World | Jan 08 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android-powered smart TVs targeted by malicious | Jan 08 09:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Android-powered smart TVs targeted by malicious apps | PCWorld | Jan 08 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | > x http://windowsitpro.com/outlook/new-outlook-chief-talks-email-clients | Jan 08 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Talking with Javier Soltero, the outsider Microsoft tapped to reinvent Outlook across platforms | Outlook content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/oe63h ] | Jan 08 09:55 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure what to even do with this link. It's NSA PRISM, but MS sites wouldn't even mention it... | Jan 08 09:55 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that outlook write up has me asking some questions. Amazon Web Services ok does not microsoft have their own data center? So why are they using Amazon? | Jan 08 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry is all about Android in 2016 | Jan 08 10:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | BlackBerry is all about Android in 2016 | PCWorld | Jan 08 10:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box > | Jan 08 10:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box - Freedom Penguin | Jan 08 10:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT | Jan 08 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 08 10:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 08 10:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, | Jan 08 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 08 10:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 08 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes | Jan 08 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Jan 08 10:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin Bieber's "Sorry" Video | Jan 08 10:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support | Jan 08 10:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 10:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 10:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers | Jan 08 10:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers the living room | CIO | Jan 08 10:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MattRosoff/status/685370770596311041 | Jan 08 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MattRosoff: The true startup dreamers are outcasts, misfits, non-conformists. Art, not just science. | Jan 08 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | MS Matt | Jan 08 11:06 |
| schestowitz | how funny in relation to MSFT | Jan 08 11:06 |
| schestowitz | gates born rich and privileged | Jan 08 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A first look at Collabora/LibreOffice online | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (and a little bit of frustration) | Jan 08 11:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Foundation Announces 2016 Events | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Schedule https://t.co/FNktzmaPQT | Jan 08 11:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon & AMDGPU DRM Drivers Get More Changes | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.5 https://t.co/19buHM917L | Jan 08 11:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Rolls Out Useful Linux Updates For TF2 & | Jan 08 11:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remember Google’s Project Tango? Now Lenovo Is | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Making The First Tango Smartphone | Jan 08 11:23 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin...' | Jan 08 11:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In memory of Ian #Murdock | Jan 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/dDi0oNFUoF (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @amayita “loss of Ian Murdock is still making the | Jan 08 12:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | In memory of Ian Murdock - TechzimTechzim | Jan 08 12:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Debian Domination, Unstable Fedora, Simple Elementary | Jan 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Blackphone Security Woes | Jan 08 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blackphone Security Woes | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/YQ6hRyupTZ | Jan 08 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | > Hey, | Jan 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz | > First Happy New Year 2016! | Jan 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz | > opposing the Amazon Gift patent. | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > We got a nice phone call and email from the EPO saying we have to pay | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > for a translator, while other people with German or French would not | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > have to pay for simultaneous translations during oral proceedings. | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > I will try to forward you the mails, it was hilarious. | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > Best, | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Sounds great. A lot of this is FANTASTIC ammo against the UPC at this time. The EPO's management VERY much wants the UPC to pass, but we can definitely derail it. | Jan 08 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/BZbnGpbgxz | Jan 08 12:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Tux Machines | Jan 08 14:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6951241 | Jan 08 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why bas #joindiaspora gotten so quiet? Troubling, as #twitter has gone rather nasty as of late, trying to be more and more like #facebook | Jan 08 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Over the years, a lot of interesting people have come here and said it was too quiet and then left. If they all had stayed, there would be quite of few of them here. Self fulfilling prophesy. Folks should just hang in there for a while and it will work." | Jan 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I know some of these people. Same thing happened to identica (Twitter substitute, D* being the FB sub) | Jan 08 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeFileSync 7.8 Has Been Released, Install In | Jan 08 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeFileSync 7.8 Has Been Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint Or Other Derivatives Distros | Tux Machines | Jan 08 18:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV Gets Marshmallow | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Treat, New Games And More: Here's The Deal | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pSGj68GUYN (www.techtimes.com) | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV Gets Marshmallow Treat, New Games And More: Here's The Deal [Video] : CES 2016 : Tech Times | Jan 08 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gUIEdJg9tb (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | ZDNet | Jan 08 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685535727573073920 | Jan 08 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz KDE is a nice achievement in the way of graphical achievements, but it's a steaming turd when you look at size and bloat | Jan 08 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685536166003646464 | Jan 08 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @TheRegister that article is absolute shite. Read the comment by jillesvangurp for something more reasonable | Jan 08 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | Note that I didn't say it was a good article. Microsoft Gavin's spin. | Jan 08 19:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685536505704497152 | Jan 08 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz how do you keep track of all the research you do? Databases? Applications? Sticky notes? | Jan 08 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | Refined workflow over the past decade | Jan 08 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review - Phoronix | Jan 08 19:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com | A Smackerel of Opinion: FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel source | Jan 08 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/tod1r6EUFt | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 08 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685537000682737664 https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685537248268259328 | Jan 08 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz I tried to contribute to KDE once. Didn't know where to start, hundreds of intermingled libs and apps. Sticking to tiling wm | Jan 08 19:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @TheRegister yeah, I was just pointing that out for the benefit of others :) | Jan 08 19:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/685537427264417792 | Jan 08 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Names Names...? cc: @Snowden @HelpSnowden | Jan 08 19:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685539740729225216 | Jan 08 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz have you tried @Docear_org at all? That's come in quite handy for a few projects and assignments | Jan 08 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure if it's suited for my personal workflow and routines, might give it a go this weekend | Jan 08 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gregsfortytwo/status/685543251080835072 | Jan 08 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gregsfortytwo: @schestowitz @ircolle that’s why Marshals exist, to enforce court rulings? Of all the system’s sins, shutting down infringing show ain’t one | Jan 08 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | Was a judge there to rule on the case? Of do Marshals just raid a show and decide to shoot first, ask question later? #ces #patents | Jan 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Was a judge there to rule on the case? Was there already a case with court orders? | Jan 08 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Or do Marshals just raid a show and decide to shoot first, ask question later? #ces #patents | Jan 08 19:30 |
| schestowitz | *questions | Jan 08 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Get the Option of Updating Firmware Directly from the OS | Jan 08 20:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly | Jan 08 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly Reduces Memory Usage on Linux | Jan 08 20:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs $15, Raises 30 Times the Money Needed | Jan 08 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Augmented reality helmet moves to Skylake, | Jan 08 20:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Augmented reality helmet moves to Skylake, RealSense, Linux · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 08 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sorry BlackBerry 10 fans: 2016 is the year of | Jan 08 20:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Sorry BlackBerry 10 fans: 2016 is the year of Android when it comes to new phones | ZDNet | Jan 08 20:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @imdoneIO favourited 'FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel...' | Jan 08 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better | Jan 08 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better Arm, Hands and Glove Models | Jan 08 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Spotted on a Raspberry Pi 2-Powered | Jan 08 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Spotted on a Raspberry Pi 2-Powered 4K DIY Magic Mirror | Jan 08 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | > That's cool helping out as sysadmin. I would love to do that since | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > that's how you relieve organizations that need the help without paying | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > third party services. I do help people migrating to Linux and OS. I | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > think the best thing is giving people choice not to be ripped off by big | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > corporations. | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > That's one of the reasons I help you out. It pisses me off how these big | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > corportions backed by some governments have give their backs to the | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > people they supposed to serve, take control of judiciary systems and the | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > apparatus of the state to enrich themselves more, meanwhile the regular | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > people like us, gets srewed up! | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > OK buddy keep up the good work! | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | In daily links in Techrights I cover many news bits that relate to it. I'm hoping that not only FOSS and patents will be the focus we have. It does seem to have a seriously noticeable effect on decision makers these days. | Jan 08 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical needs a firm direction for Ubuntu | Jan 08 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android Devices, More From CES | Techrights | Jan 08 22:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 08 22:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 08 22:07 | |
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| schestowitz | >>>>> I'm slow to read these days. This just sank in from the ZDNet: | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> 'described as the "enhanced distribution of R from Microsoft."' | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> That looks like the same EEE that m$ tried with Java. As much as I have | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> respected his writing in the past, it puts paid to SJVN's assertion in | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> his articles that M$ is somehow changed or cooperating with FOSS. I bet | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> dollars to donuts that the "enhanced" version is functionally | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> proprietary. I also expect that the same M$ attitudes are present and | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> that the goal is for those trying R for the first time, but using M$ | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> >>>> Windows, are in for a subpar experience on purpose to turn them off R. | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> R was never FOSS, just FOSSy. I knew this a long time ago. | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> Microsoft's move is related to a buyout which I wrote about before. | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> Don't worry, they're losing all in all... I'm focusing on patents angles | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>>> >>> right now. | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> Yes. From my perspective promoting FOSS at this point has long since | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> moved beyond, or away from, only dealing with licensing and enlightening | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> developers and users about them. It now means looking 2 to 3 years | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> ahead all the time at what is happening in patent, patent law and | Jan 09 04:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> international treaties. EPU and TPP are two examples. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> But like I've said before, it's not over until the furniture is | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> auctioned off and the softers past and present spend a stint in jail. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > The same could be said about Novell and SUSE, but I'm not chasing them | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > to their oblivion or coffin (metaphorically speaking) because the threat | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | >> > they now pose isn't proportional to the amount of coverage in 2006-2009. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > Novell and SUSE are gone but they did not leave millions of people | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > behind smitten with a cult style devotion. Here M$ even has a trade | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > association of its own, which functions partially as a union. I wish I | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > had the details for that. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Some people are still technically tied to Novell's software. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > But in general M$ is far stronger here than they've been in the past. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > As far as I know, all aspects of the public sector are now privatized | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > and in most cases what passes for IT has been outsourced, thus losing | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > all accountability and control. M$ has consolidated its grip here | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > substantially, using the "for security" excuse. In some cases, staff | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > were temporarily allowed to bring their own devices. Those that got | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > work done did just that, with most going to Macintosh and only a few to | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > GNU/Linux. Now those few institutions that allowed own devices are | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > banning them and further forcing not just an M$-only attempt at | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > infrastructure, but also an M$-only set of user applications. However, | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > I have only a sample size of 6 right now. Though I expect to find out | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > about two more sometime fairly soon, probably by summer. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Some places are locked into Microsoft 'cloud', but if the applications are to be accessed over the Web, then a browser would do, even on Mac/GNU/Linux. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > The loss of accountability and control through outsourcing is made worse | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > by many politicians and even the institutions themselves being invested | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > in the publicly traded companies that now ostensibly provide IT | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > services. Same for facilities rental. I don't know how profitable they | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > are or if they even could ever be profitable for anyone that did not get | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > on the IPO. However, I do see that people believe strongly in the sunk | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > cost fallacy and will support the parasitic outsourcing to the severe | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > detriment of the host institution. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > All that is a long way of saying that in addition to M$ being in an | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > exceedingly strong position on the ground here I see M$ gathering and | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > regrouping here for a really nasty push. What they look to be planning | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | > for R seems part of it. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | I think that R will survive this. Even if it doesn't, R won't be a huge loss. It was never all that focused on FOSS anyway. | Jan 09 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android | Jan 09 04:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Devices, More From CES https://t.co/NAL8r2e3FJ | Jan 09 04:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Jan 09 04:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android Devices, More From CES | Techrights | Jan 09 04:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands on: Casio WSD-F10 Android Wear smartwatch | Jan 09 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YtQlMKCTYc (www.digitaltrends.com) | Jan 09 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Casio WSD F10 Android Wear Smartwatch Hands On | Digital Trends | Jan 09 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top Android performance problems faced by app | Jan 09 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | developers https://t.co/FLa25XSNm4 | Jan 09 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jan 09 04:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Top Android performance problems faced by app developers - Android Authority | Jan 09 04:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Zacks Research has given a top Growth Style | Jan 09 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | score to Red Hat, Inc." https://t.co/vnQ25iefvx | Jan 09 04:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (theenterpriseleader.com) | Jan 09 04:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theenterpriseleader.com | Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) Picked As Growth Company | Jan 09 04:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Poploauetr/status/685686978495549440 | Jan 09 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Poploauetr: @schestowitz good kick all the browns and black out of this country!!! make america great agin! Trump 2016 this is what we need | Jan 09 04:59 | |
| schestowitz | Fox Downplays Sexual Assault, Until It Fits Their Anti-Muslim Refugee Agenda | Jan 09 05:00 |
| schestowitz | Rump loons | Jan 09 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei Teases Voice Calls on Android Powered | Jan 09 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Huawei Watch https://t.co/A9zJATRcLV | Jan 09 05:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Huawei Teases Voice Calls on Android Powered Huawei Watch | Androidheadlines.com | Jan 09 05:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Holy Potatoes! A Weapon Shop?! Tested on Linux | Jan 09 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with some thoughts on the gameplay | Jan 09 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zqTH3EVs0f (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 09 05:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Holy Potatoes! A Weapon Shop?! Tested on Linux with some thoughts on the gameplay | GamingOnLinux | Jan 09 05:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Is Betting On Its Open Source IoT | Jan 09 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Computer Chirimen And It Makes Perfect Sense | Jan 09 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PKW8uxnW4d (fossbytes.com) | Jan 09 05:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Mozilla Making Its Own Open Source IoT Computer Called Chirimen | Jan 09 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685689887987597312 | Jan 09 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: This is exciting! https://t.co/ZMfXUFEL3I | Jan 09 05:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Mozilla Is Betting On Its Open Source IoT Computer #Chirimen And It Makes Perfect Sense https://t.co/WjFH8NuETA #linux | Jan 09 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/685690179630280704 | Jan 09 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 Oracle 12 is such a bloated architecture | Jan 09 05:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Announcing the general availability of | Jan 09 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 4 | Jan 09 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvxga1UY1J (blogs.oracle.com) | Jan 09 05:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.oracle.com | Announcing the general availability of Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 4 (Oracle's Linux Blog) | Jan 09 05:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Indeed Be Delayed, Plus Other | Jan 09 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Changes Approved https://t.co/EE0TvG7toW | Jan 09 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 09 05:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Will Indeed Be Delayed, Plus Other Changes Approved - Phoronix | Jan 09 05:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GTK+ 3.19.6 Released With CSS Changes & Wayland | Jan 09 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements https://t.co/sfsSbscrIe | Jan 09 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 09 05:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GTK+ 3.19.6 Released With CSS Changes & Wayland Improvements - Phoronix | Jan 09 05:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator | Jan 09 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Network with VPN Editor Fixes, More | Jan 09 05:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/h1q9ys81lI (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 05:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator Network with VPN Editor Fixes, More | Jan 09 05:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) | Jan 09 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wallpaper Contest Calls All Artists | Jan 09 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1DQUBjFsRT (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 05:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Wallpaper Contest Calls All Artists | Jan 09 05:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video https://t.co/HXs6lBlAAl (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 09 05:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 09 05:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited '$149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps...' | Jan 09 05:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited '$149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps...' | Jan 09 05:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PromoXperts/status/685694221538336772 | Jan 09 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PromoXperts: @schestowitz government killed him | Jan 09 05:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/685695020326875136 | Jan 09 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @themotleyfool Gates hasn't been an entrepreneur for a long long time, more like evil monopolist if you ask me cc/@schestowitz | Jan 09 05:31 | |
| cubexyz | kind of evil right from the start actually | Jan 09 05:32 |
| cubexyz | 1) dumpster diving for old BASIC | Jan 09 05:36 |
| cubexyz | 2) stealing PDP-10 computer time from CCC | Jan 09 05:36 |
| cubexyz | oh and here's a new one: lying about being a graduate student at University of Washington | Jan 09 05:39 |
| cubexyz | just learned about that one recently | Jan 09 05:40 |
| cubexyz | why? to get access to a Xerox computer! | Jan 09 05:40 |
| cubexyz | ok, is Gates worse than Rockefeller? probably not | Jan 09 05:48 |
| cubexyz | updated: | Jan 09 05:49 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt | Jan 09 05:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium | Jan 09 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wisVA2pkdf (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 05:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 05:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam | Jan 09 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Controller Improvements, Linux Fixes | Jan 09 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z4GfWAWXm9 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 09 05:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam Controller Improvements, Linux Fixes | Jan 09 05:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE and Open Source https://t.co/vRjxJbbx0n | Jan 09 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (stanfordlin.wordpress.com) "contributing to a | Jan 09 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | project that is devoted to helping" | Jan 09 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stanfordlin.wordpress.com | KDE and Open Source | Stanford Lin | Jan 09 05:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Counter-Strike: Global Offensive updated, now | Jan 09 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with nicer sound options for Linux | Jan 09 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/l0TZuhjs83 (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 09 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Counter-Strike: Global Offensive updated, now with nicer sound options for Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 09 06:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952980 | Jan 09 06:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Company from #canada helps regime that shoots down (with machine guns) protesters http://motherboard.vice.com/read/canadian-company-netsweeper-to-censor-bahrains-internet-for-12m | Jan 09 06:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com | Canadian Company Netsweeper to Censor Bahrain’s Internet for $1.2M | Motherboard | Jan 09 06:18 | |
| schestowitz | "With US designed equipment that was made in China. What a big happy family the industry is." | Jan 09 06:18 |
| schestowitz | parerntal control they call it.. it's "for the children" | Jan 09 06:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952942 | Jan 09 06:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 09 06:19 |
| schestowitz | wtf? How about they take care of things closer to their core mission, like credit card fraud, stock fraud, etc. Nope. | Jan 09 06:19 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they want another toxic thing to hang around people’s necks, “This guy kicks his puppy!” | Jan 09 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FBI to Track Animal Abuse Like Homicide—But Which Animals? http://commondreams.org/news/2016/01/08/fbi-track-animal-abuse-homicide-which-animals farms excluded... | Jan 09 06:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 09 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> commondreams.org | FBI to Track Animal Abuse Like Homicide—But Which Animals? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community [ http://ur1.ca/oe9up ] | Jan 09 06:19 | |
| schestowitz | FBI also goes after Dotcom over copyrights... and after Wikileaks in Iceland | Jan 09 06:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952524 | Jan 09 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft is forcing spyware into people's PCs unless they're savvy enough to stop it http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/08/windows_10_upgrade_blocker/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jan 09 06:19 | |
| schestowitz | "that and uefi" | Jan 09 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Confirmed: How to stop Windows 10 forcing itself onto PCs – your essential guide • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oe9ur ] | Jan 09 06:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Jan 09 06:19 | |
| cubexyz | people aren't savvy | Jan 09 06:21 |
| cubexyz | case in point... PVRs that are tied to Cable/Satellite companies | Jan 09 06:21 |
| cubexyz | all video is encrypted...people buy them anyway | Jan 09 06:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Lycanious favourited 'Counter-Strike: Global Offensive updated, now with nicer sound...' | Jan 09 06:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video https://t.co/k6KPkXywUn | Jan 09 06:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video | Tux Machines | Jan 09 06:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/Ovkn2Cy8RZ | Jan 09 06:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 09 06:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GTK+ 3.19.6 https://t.co/6z6vokI66D | Jan 09 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GTK+ 3.19.6 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle Linux, DBMS https://t.co/1CY9DTLkWR | Jan 09 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle Linux, DBMS | Tux Machines | Jan 09 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UGet 2.0.4 Released, One Of The Lightest | Jan 09 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download Managers For Linux | Jan 09 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/COrCR48x9x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UGet 2.0.4 Released, One Of The Lightest Download Managers For Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 09 09:21 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: is that a usa thing with the PVR from Cable/Satellite companies. Australian Sat/cable tv provided PVR are not sold but rented to you as long as keep subscribtion. So end subscription the device has to go back. | Jan 09 09:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EdSnowdenNews/status/685772980572430336 | Jan 09 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EdSnowdenNews: Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - ... https://t.co/3ZeYrAAgUD via @schestowitz https://t.co/OJ3vD7Tdq4 | Jan 09 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> gettopical.com | Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - NY Daily News | Jan 09 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EdSnowdenNews: Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - ... https://t.co/3ZeYrAAgUD via @schestowitz https://t.co/OJ3vD7Tdq4 | Jan 09 10:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Platform https://t.co/Vh012dfMXZ | Jan 09 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile Platform | Tux Machines | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Platform https://t.co/ECnmjCKhNt | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.knowyourmobile.com) | Jan 09 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knowyourmobile.com | Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile Platform: Prices, Specifications, Reviews | Know Your Mobile | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video · https://t.co/3OCx16fYf1 | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (LinuxGizmos.com) https://t.co/lm5PjE6b13 | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines | Jan 09 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinuxGizmos.com | LinuxGizmos: embedded Linux news & devices | Jan 09 11:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator...' | Jan 09 11:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Wallpaper Contest...' | Jan 09 11:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List...' | Jan 09 11:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/685775696090775552 | Jan 09 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Nice try ! ;-) | Jan 09 11:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6953293 | Jan 09 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rump is a liar. Calls a 2000-people crowd "25,000" and blocks everyone not abhorrent like him http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/01/07/trump-campaign-lumbers-into-vermont/78375274/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin= | Jan 09 12:01 | |
| schestowitz | "he is remarkably embarrassing" | Jan 09 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.burlingtonfreepress.com | Latest: Trump crowd estimated at 2,000, plus protests [ http://ur1.ca/oeafa ] | Jan 09 12:01 | |
| schestowitz | But many people still support him... | Jan 09 12:01 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/07/social-justice-warriors-wreaking-havoc-in-open-source-software/ | Jan 09 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.breitbart.com | Social Justice Warriors Wreaking Havoc In Open Source [ http://ur1.ca/oeajo ] | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > - | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > "The addition of Shuttleworth only adds to what is already an | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > impressive lineup. Other keynoters on tap are Cory Doctorow who’ll be | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > giving a talk called “No Matter Who’s Winning the War on General Purpose | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > Computing, You’re Losing,” and Sarah Sharp..." | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > http://fossforce.com/2016/01/shuttleworth-at-scale-google-rolls-over-more/ | Jan 09 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Shuttleworth at SCALE, Google Rolls Over & More… | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/oeajq ] | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:11 |
| schestowitz | > ... :/ | Jan 09 13:11 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Jan 09 13:18 |
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| schestowitz | > http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html | Jan 09 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-valerieaurora.org | Lifetimes of cryptographic hash functions | Jan 09 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > == | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > older: | Jan 09 13:18 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.techinsider.io/cyberattack-blackout-ukraine-2016-1 | Jan 09 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techinsider.io | Cyberattack blackout in Ukraine - Tech Insider | Jan 09 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > Russia only partially to blame. At the end of the day, M$ is and | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > whoever signed off on running M$ product inside a mission-critical | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > environment. Using M$ wastes resources and lives. | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Do we know for sure is MS was used there? Can you research this? If Microsoft was in there, it's a worthwhile article to prepare. | Jan 09 13:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam...' | Jan 09 13:20 | |
| schestowitz | > "it's alpha software), but it's worth checking out." | Jan 09 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/non-linux-foss-open-source-windows | Jan 09 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Non-Linux FOSS: Open-Source Windows? | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/oeakz ] | Jan 09 13:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Od6IE5ykTn (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 15:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Tux Machines | Jan 09 15:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/kzYJrfH6wd | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeasz | Jan 09 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 09 15:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Announcement https://t.co/CsttrNHTVz | Jan 09 15:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 15:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Announcement | Tux Machines | Jan 09 15:17 | |
| MinceR | http://www.wired.com/2016/01/new-discovery-around-juniper-backdoor-raises-more-questions-about-the-company/ | Jan 09 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | New Discovery Around Juniper Backdoor Raises More Questions About the Company | WIRED | Jan 09 15:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List...' | Jan 09 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emulation and Windows https://t.co/9HpVfJDYar | Jan 09 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulation and Windows | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:56 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Jan 09 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: hi | Jan 09 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: YAY I bought Macafee yesterday, and I am not joking | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | the company? | Jan 09 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I am rich enough to buy the whole company | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | along with the rest of intel? | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no one of there products seriously | Jan 09 17:40 |
| MinceR | what for? | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | good question | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | why would I buy Macafee | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I had a choice get something earlier and buy a Macafee product as well, or wait about two weeks possibly | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | pay a little more having Macafee to | Jan 09 17:41 |
| MinceR | why get any of them? | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I wanted offical re install discs for Windows 10 | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | from HP | Jan 09 17:41 |
| MinceR | ew | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | they won't give those for my lap top, but they give Windows 8.1 discs | Jan 09 17:42 |
| MinceR | can't vista10 make recovery media? | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | I could have made my own sure, but | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: there is a recovery mode, but I think I might have some malware in there | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | since I got some baasically random program of the net before which was a bit silly | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | so rather just do a proper clean install | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | then can upgrade to 10 later | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am going to Linux my lap top proeprly after that | Jan 09 17:43 |
| MinceR | of course you have some malware in there | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | or uh try to, not sure how to get Grub coming up first! silly UEFI | Jan 09 17:43 |
| MinceR | it's called "windows" | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: what Windows | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | heh | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | thought you would put that | Jan 09 17:43 |
| MinceR | vista10, now more malicious than ever | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am not happy about the money I spent yesterday really | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but yese those discs were not cheap | Jan 09 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly Microsoft asked OEM's not to just give them away like before as well | Jan 09 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | since something to do with the machines being tied to the motherboard or whateer now to. the OS, the product key etc and then how there could be issues after woulds | Jan 09 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: occassiaonly need Windows for some program | Jan 09 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah in general it sucks | Jan 09 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | WIndows itself sucks | Jan 09 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well two years subscrition for some sucky Macafee product, that also works on phones, and my discs should come by like Wednsesday next week | Jan 09 17:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: apparantly Windwos 10 spys on peopole more yeah, if that's what you meant | Jan 09 17:48 |
| MinceR | not only that | Jan 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | it also has more botnet-like behavior | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | botnet like heaviour how so? | Jan 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | and the "upgrade" to it involves less consent from users than before | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and you can't just downagrde back after a month to | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | after doing that | Jan 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | p2p distribution of updates, mandatory installation of updates without opt-out in most versions | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | ah yeah the forced updates thing, but that's to make sure peopoe install security updats | Jan 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | so you don't get to disable the backdoor that executes arbitrary code | Jan 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | and it tries to get around your firewall with p2p tech | Jan 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | yeah yeah, there are always excuses for everything | Jan 09 17:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: there's no actsaul features in 10 that are worth it so far from what I have seen | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | multiple desktops is the best feature so far | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: so I may just hold out on 8.1 a bit longer | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | it wasn't on here for long before upgrading | Jan 09 17:51 |
| MinceR | X11 had multiple desktops for ages | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | yes it's a long over due feature that Linux and Mac had for ages | Jan 09 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | that's why it's good to they finally got it | Jan 09 17:52 |
| MinceR | macos didn't get it right though, afaik | Jan 09 17:54 |
| MinceR | and probably neither did winblows | Jan 09 17:54 |
| sebsebseb | the one in 10 is just very basic so far | Jan 09 17:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 best action games for Android! | Jan 09 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | 10 best action games for Android! - Android Authority | Jan 09 18:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 terrific Android apps you won’t find on any | Jan 09 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | iPhone https://t.co/jW2Or0OiMF (bgr.com) | Jan 09 18:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android exclusive apps: Download 7 apps not found on the iPhone | BGR | Jan 09 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JArthur52694602/status/685895188372402176 | Jan 09 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JArthur52694602: when a spoof video can b made w/o twisting the words u know its bad: https://t.co/nF7SjXlMor https://t.co/wv6Lg70nsB | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Gov. Paul Lepage White Girls Heroin D-Money Trap Remix by Spose - YouTube | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Our racist imbecile of a governor Paul #LePage is making news again for projectile vomiting moronic words" https://t.co/Q9mPF8nDUU | Jan 09 18:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Launches OpenShift v3.1, Full of | Jan 09 19:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker/Kubernetes Goodness | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | Red Hat Launches OpenShift v3.1, Full of Docker/Kubernetes Goodness - DZone Integration | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Improving my Gtk and Music knowledge | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnome programme for attracting female | Jan 09 19:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | developers. | Jan 09 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jordanaluft.com | Improving my Gtk and Music knowledge – Jordana Luft | Jan 09 19:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Durga_Karma The Michael Daily News by | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | publiziert! https://t.co/vGlroqR7ZA (paper.li) | Jan 09 19:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vielen Dank an @ATastyHike @tuxmachines | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Michael Daily News by https://michael.lr-partner.com | Jan 09 19:09 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/685901692265627648 | Jan 09 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz The #Problem_with_Penguins: Too many species, &, they have religious ideas. @SwiftOnSecurity:That's a Double-Oxford, my dear. | Jan 09 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685787177603743744 | Jan 09 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: As a resident of the Munich area I must point out that Oktoberfest rapes are NOT comparable to #koelnhbf https://t.co/S4fSZxWZ83 #rapefugees | Jan 09 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.faz.net | Die Übergriffe in Köln und falsche Zahlen von der Wiesn | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685798450852708352 | Jan 09 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: High-profile conservative politician proposes that his party leave the German coalition government over #rapefugees https://t.co/mfFk4cV6tD | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@welt: Flüchtlingskrise: Gauweiler legt CSU Austritt aus Koalition nahe https://t.co/TYyd9QfL9s https://t.co/SaOSnKu7T6 | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685799663245619200 | Jan 09 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @flueke He gets attention, that's what I meant. Profile is not the same as power. | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| cubexyz | ok oiaohm | Jan 09 19:33 |
| cubexyz | put the sata/ide card in the P3 | Jan 09 19:33 |
| cubexyz | so I can enter the world of sata drives now :) | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubexyz | sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubexyz | probably the only IDE thing the store still sold | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubexyz | only problem now... no more molex connectors :-/ | Jan 09 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hp5iK9InUr (blog.linuxmint.com) | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kde also: https://t.co/nPUS7nfk0z | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.linuxmint.com) probably best distro | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | around | Jan 09 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 19:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE released! | Jan 09 19:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 1.9.1 is now available. | Jan 09 19:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 1.9.1 Adds More Shader Model 4 Instructions, MinGW ARM Toolchain Support | Jan 09 19:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/685906677695119361 | Jan 09 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents If I was a member of the fugees I would be rather worried. Shocking the reaction of the German police. | Jan 09 20:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unvanquished Kicks Off 2016 With Yet Another | Jan 09 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpha https://t.co/FQ5tOX8boj | Jan 09 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unvanquished Kicks Off 2016 With Yet Another Alpha - Phoronix | Jan 09 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source as a Driver of Internet of Things | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source as a Driver of Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New AMDGPU Details & Looking Forward To Major | Jan 09 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Radeon Linux Improvements In 2016 | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMDGPU Details & Looking Forward To Major Radeon Linux Improvements In 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 09 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FSF Surveys https://t.co/4wl88ts9nN | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Surveys | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0...' | Jan 09 22:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Jan 09 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NINI6SrNlc (www.techworm.net) | Jan 09 22:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 » TechWorm | Jan 09 22:10 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/texas-governor-wants-add-nine-new-amendments-constitution | Jan 09 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Texas Governor Wants to Add 9 New Amendments to the Constitution | Mother Jones | Jan 09 22:24 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952378 | Jan 09 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Because "terrorism". Sure, sure... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/white-house-silicon-valley-meeting-terrorism-social-media-facebook-twitter-microsoft-youtube-apple http://www.firstpost.com/world/white-house-us-tech-giants-push-to-make-internet-use-harder-for-terror-groups-2576540.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3020322/fbi-nsa-seek-tech-firms-help-in-war-on-terror-at-silicon-valley-mee | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Asking Silicon Valley to 'disrupt' terrorists is tech talk for 'surveillance' | Trevor Timm | Opinion | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oec4s ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | "More need for Diaspora. I imagine the Google people are going as an anchor, but do they have anything about this on their company blog? If they care, they should be screaming." | Jan 09 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.firstpost.com | White House, US tech giants push to make internet use harder for terror groups - Firstpost [ http://ur1.ca/oec4t ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | FBI, NSA seek tech firms' help in war on terror at Silicon Valley meeting | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oec4u ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fortune.com | FBI Chief, U.S. Attorney General Visit Silicon Valley - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/oec4v ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952472 | Jan 09 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Goodbye, #Debian 8.1 http://thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/goodbye-debian-81.html #gnu #linux | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Goodbye, Debian 8.1 [ http://ur1.ca/oec4w ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | "That’s a weird write up. She’s trashing Debian because nVidia and publishers suck. With her mindset, she might as well use Windows.' | Jan 09 22:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BreatheSport/status/685945982169792517 | Jan 09 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BreatheSport: Man Utd's last 10 home games at HT… 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-0 https://t.co/VUcx4LrRzR | Jan 09 23:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BreatheSport: Man Utd's last 10 home games at HT… 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-0 https://t.co/VUcx4LrRzR | Jan 09 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/z7S5KKE6q1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk | Jan 09 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oec5y | Jan 09 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Tux Machines | Jan 09 23:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Macmillan USA #Mandrake Linux Commercial (1999) | Jan 09 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Cidzid7R1g (www.youtube.com) | Jan 09 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oec5z | Jan 09 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Macmillan USA Mandrake Linux Commercial (1999) - YouTube | Jan 09 23:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/VfOiWvr9YH | Jan 09 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecb3 | Jan 09 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux Machines | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Jan 09 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HkhpkPU2dc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecb4 | Jan 09 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce | Jan 09 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and KDE Released https://t.co/loYzYqjgep | Jan 09 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jan 09 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecb8 | Jan 09 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce and KDE Released | Techrights | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/kzYJrfH6wd | Jan 09 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 09 23:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 09 23:52 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.noaa.gov | Jan 03 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.noaa.gov | NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration | Jan 03 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | Salon is iffy | Jan 03 00:00 |
| cubexyz | http://scienceliteracy.ca | Jan 03 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scienceliteracy.ca | | Jan 03 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: no RSS feed in NOAA | Jan 03 00:01 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: look at the titles in the CA site | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | very generic | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Not really a news site | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | and last update was Sept. | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I've added WeMeantWell and EmptyWheel | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Because they're usually quite good, just never got around to RSS feeds there.. | Jan 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I am stick of twitter | Jan 03 00:03 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, why not make http://www.techrights.org/science | Jan 03 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/science ) | Jan 03 00:03 | |
| cubexyz | or something like that | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | a lot of people just take their activity there, and I had to as well..... because that's the trend, apparently... | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: who would run it? | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | there's a "science" category in daily links | Jan 03 00:03 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | it's easy to create a blog | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | takes a few minutes | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | running it for years is a huge commitment | Jan 03 00:04 |
| cubexyz | well it could just be a page of links | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | I created accounts for some people, but they only ever wrote a handful of articles | Jan 03 00:04 |
| cubexyz | doesn't have to be super fancy | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | links to news? | Jan 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | tuxmachines has many pages with live feeds in them, for FOSS matters | Jan 03 00:04 |
| cubexyz | ok there's: | Jan 03 00:05 |
| cubexyz | http://www.nws.noaa.gov/rss | Jan 03 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nws.noaa.gov | RSS Libraries and Podcast - NOAA's National Weather Service | Jan 03 00:05 | |
| cubexyz | http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/rss.html | Jan 03 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oceanservice.noaa.gov | National Ocean Service RSS Feed Library | Jan 03 00:06 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.epa.gov/newsroom/feeds | Jan 03 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epa.gov | Feeds | Newsroom | US EPA | Jan 03 00:07 | |
| cubexyz | but I guess mostly you want to concentrate on tech news | Jan 03 00:09 |
| cubexyz | just throwing out ideas here and there | Jan 03 00:10 |
| cubexyz | I got some ideas for a KDE blog post | Jan 03 00:12 |
| cubexyz | here's another one on deforestation: | Jan 03 00:15 |
| cubexyz | http://agriculture.einnews.com/news/deforestation | Jan 03 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agriculture.einnews.com | Deforestation RSS News Feed & Press Release Distribution - Agriculture Industry Today - EIN News | Jan 03 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | epa is good | Jan 03 00:16 |
| schestowitz | adding... | Jan 03 00:16 |
| schestowitz | "30-day free trial" | Jan 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | http://agriculture.einnews.com/my-rss/start | Jan 03 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agriculture.einnews.com | [ http://ur1.ca/odirh ] | Jan 03 00:17 | |
| schestowitz | dafaq | Jan 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | wait, it's just some service, not the original | Jan 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/RSS/epa_recentnews?opendocument | Jan 03 00:19 |
| schestowitz | http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/rss/nosnews.xml 148 items | Jan 03 00:21 |
| schestowitz | feed needs trimming | Jan 03 00:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nws.noaa.gov/rss/ very US-centric | Jan 03 00:22 |
| schestowitz | like weather reports | Jan 03 00:22 |
| schestowitz | so not really a news site | Jan 03 00:22 |
| cubexyz | each country has their rough equivalent | Jan 03 00:23 |
| cubexyz | e.g. Canada has Environment Canada | Jan 03 00:23 |
| schestowitz | yeah, would only interest locals | Jan 03 00:24 |
| cubexyz | I don't know if there's a world-wide environmental organization | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | not much intl' ramification | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | not even if it's the weather is in World Police or Five Eyes | Jan 03 00:24 |
| cubexyz | it sounds like a good idea though :) | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I hardly follow even our own weather at this level of details | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I check BBC weather about 5 times a day | Jan 03 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to identify feeds that will help gather news that matters, not just for FOSS | Jan 03 00:25 |
| cubexyz | there's the WNO = World Nature Organization | Jan 03 00:25 |
| schestowitz | For tuxmachines I do have that for linux and foss, I'm seeing almost everything that's going on and quite quickly too | Jan 03 00:25 |
| schestowitz | do they have a news RSS feed? | Jan 03 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I added about 20 RSS feeds tonight | Jan 03 00:26 |
| schestowitz | they'll end up feeding, with discretion, the daily links and other things | Jan 03 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I deleted lots of crap feeds, moved them to another pile | Jan 03 00:26 |
| cubexyz | WNO doesn't have rss as far as I can see | Jan 03 00:27 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-3.5-krename-worth-a-look.png | Jan 03 00:29 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what to do in 2016 news-wise | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | could write 10 articles a day | Jan 03 00:30 |
| cubexyz | don't think krename is part of kdeutils but it should be | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | but then less so in tux machines in so-called 'social' media | Jan 03 00:30 |
| cubexyz | very powerful program | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | wow, qt3 looks so familiar but nostalgic | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | this is the widget set whose name I forgot | Jan 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | was it plastiK? | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | in kde4 oxygen and curve took over | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | qt5 has this ugly 'breeze' thing | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | I can still start plasmashell from openbox | Jan 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | but I never do, no point to it unless I need klipper | Jan 03 00:31 |
| cubexyz | I remember there was kde-look.org | Jan 03 00:31 |
| cubexyz | I tend to stick with things I like :) | Jan 03 00:32 |
| cubexyz | so if I like KDE 3.5.X then I tend to keep using it | Jan 03 00:33 |
| cubexyz | in fact, I tend to keep different snapshots of software from different eras | Jan 03 00:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe you can make a business out of it | Jan 03 00:35 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 03 00:35 |
| cubexyz | yeah why not | Jan 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | some people might want to have a kde3 box shipped to them | Jan 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | for backward compatibility for instance, e.g. in CERN | Jan 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I thought about going to kde3 before ending up with openbox | Jan 03 00:35 |
| cubexyz | well you know about trinity so there is some interest for sure | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | I was MOST efficient with KDE3 and that was ages ago, more than a decade | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | I had PAGER | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | kde4 never really got a decent pager | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | it had good wallpaper shufflers | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | it was fast, | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva 2008 spring came with opengl effects in kwin | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | and these worked well | Jan 03 00:36 |
| schestowitz | pusleaudio was a sore spot at the time | Jan 03 00:37 |
| cubexyz | I maintain a develop system for KDE 3.5.10 as well | Jan 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | maybe I'll move to KDE 3.5 one day | Jan 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | it's not secure on paper, but spies have off-the-shelf tools for more recent builds | Jan 03 00:37 |
| cubexyz | I think you can intermix different eras of KDE if you really want to | Jan 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | like new kate on kde3 base? | Jan 03 00:38 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Might be awkward | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | because you need different versions of kde installed at the same time | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | unless one thing runs in a VM | Jan 03 00:38 |
| cubexyz | that's basically what trinity does though | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | or a development environment with its own locally hosted binaries and dynamic links | Jan 03 00:38 |
| cubexyz | it has pseudo-KDE 3 and parts of newer KDE | Jan 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know, I though it still had all kate | Jan 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | trinity uses /opt for some stuff | Jan 03 00:39 |
| schestowitz | with missing features and all the old bugs | Jan 03 00:39 |
| cubexyz | and really at LGP we used gcc 3.X.X (forget exactly which one) for different things | Jan 03 00:40 |
| cubexyz | it was absolutely necessary | Jan 03 00:40 |
| cubexyz | years ago, I was worried that all the KDE stuff I really liked would disappear | Jan 03 00:43 |
| cubexyz | so I started stockpiling all the libraries and source code, everything I could find | Jan 03 00:43 |
| cubexyz | I have complete KDE 3.4.2 and complete KDE 3.5.10 | Jan 03 00:44 |
| cubexyz | plus a bunch of other good programs which aren't really part of any distro as far as I can tell | Jan 03 00:44 |
| cubexyz | most of the time the original maintainer is gone and sometimes there's no one to pick it up | Jan 03 00:45 |
| cubexyz | and basically KDE 3.5.10 stuff has started to disappear | Jan 03 00:46 |
| cubexyz | just purely as a pragmatic measure folks delete older KDE stuff | Jan 03 00:46 |
| cubexyz | so why not archive it... I'm glad I did | Jan 03 00:47 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-3.5-krusader.png | Jan 03 00:49 |
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| cubexyz | at least krusader is in trinity | Jan 03 00:51 |
| MinceR | i guess it's part of kde turning into gnome | Jan 03 00:51 |
| MinceR | throw out features, throw out applications | Jan 03 00:52 |
| cubexyz | well I know for sure some stuff is probably lost | Jan 03 00:53 |
| cubexyz | there'no way all the older KDE development | Jan 03 00:54 |
| cubexyz | there's no way we have all the KDE development stuff | Jan 03 00:54 |
| cubexyz | KDE 3.5.10 yes | Jan 03 00:54 |
| cubexyz | older stuff, no | Jan 03 00:54 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: krusader is like a graphical mc? | Jan 03 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think so | Jan 03 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think my widget style was set to keramik | Jan 03 00:59 |
| msb_ | I tried it and it said I hadn't used it before and could it scan for what programs I had? I quit it. | Jan 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | or KDE classic? | Jan 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | one of those | Jan 03 01:00 |
| cubexyz | I built krusader from source | Jan 03 01:01 |
| msb_ | I'm very glad you have complete kde3.5.10 sources. They could save the world! | Jan 03 01:02 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/krusader-1.80.0.tar.gz | Jan 03 01:03 |
| cubexyz | it's not that big | Jan 03 01:03 |
| cubexyz | actually krename is probably more useful | Jan 03 01:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/krename-3.0.14.tar.bz2 | Jan 03 01:06 |
| cubexyz | over all I found KDE 3.5.10 a bit overly elaborate, but some parts were very good and worth closer analysis | Jan 03 01:07 |
| cubexyz | the KDE 1.0 developers argued quite logically that KDE 2 was bloated :) | Jan 03 01:09 |
| msb_ | Complex mass renaming can be done using sed in a bash script. You can identify and various parts of the filenames, rearrange them, remove some, add others, etc. | Jan 03 01:09 |
| cubexyz | but no one was crazy enough to make a modern KDE 1.0 distro | Jan 03 01:09 |
| msb_ | I meant "identify and extract" | Jan 03 01:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | likewise perl onelliner | Jan 03 01:12 |
| cubexyz | sometimes you want the full meal deal | Jan 03 01:12 |
| cubexyz | klipper + krename + kwhatever | Jan 03 01:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | krusty + klown | Jan 03 01:13 |
| msb_ | I prefer CLI and curses apps to GUI. Less hand motion, less hand-eye coordination, and cursor movements are automatically quantized. | Jan 03 01:18 |
| msb_ | Of course cli apps often need bash scripting. | Jan 03 01:18 |
| cubexyz | klipper was a huge improvement over xclipboard | Jan 03 01:18 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I think you were right about howtogeek, the top of every page says "Windows 10" - similar to what I think MS paid CBS/ZDNet to do http://www.howtogeek.com/189508/how-to-share-files-between-user-accounts-on-windows-linux-or-os-x/?PageSpeed=noscript | Jan 03 01:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How to Share Files Between User Accounts on Windows, Linux, or OS X | Jan 03 01:19 | |
| cubexyz | and every OEM too | Jan 03 01:20 |
| cubexyz | it's just brainwashing | Jan 03 01:20 |
| msb_ | I don't use any of klipper's features, just the fact that it can be loaded from CLI. | Jan 03 01:20 |
| cubexyz | I can't think of a better way to show features which are not often used than pull-down menus | Jan 03 01:21 |
| cubexyz | web browsers, paint programs etc | Jan 03 01:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: man pages? | Jan 03 01:22 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen CLI mass-rename utilities too | Jan 03 01:23 |
| cubexyz | that's great except you know that developers don't always write man pages | Jan 03 01:23 |
| cubexyz | I do, maybe even qu1j0t3 does | Jan 03 01:23 |
| cubexyz | but most don't | Jan 03 01:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: cli w/o man pages is hardly a recipe for success :) | Jan 03 01:24 |
| cubexyz | what's the most recent man page you wrote qu1j0t3 ? | Jan 03 01:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: hm okay, my CLI utilities have --help | Jan 03 01:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubexyz: but i rarely write them | Jan 03 01:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | I don't really think any program without documentation is going to go far, whether i write it or anyone else does. | Jan 03 01:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | unless of course it always does just what you want :-) | Jan 03 01:26 |
| cubexyz | how many young uns understand troff? | Jan 03 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | troff is a horrible markup. | Jan 03 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Jan 03 01:26 |
| cubexyz | ok well there you go | Jan 03 01:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | younguns seem to like markdown, but that'smediocre too. has the avantage of being sort of readable uncompiled (see also ReST). | Jan 03 01:27 |
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| schestowitz | > Are you the principal and founder of the Diaspora Foundation? From what I see it looks like it could be an improvement of the incredibly popular, Facebook. | Jan 03 09:06 |
| schestowitz | I write a lot there, but I'm no management there. I don't even develop there. It's like the anti-Facebook, for several reasons. | Jan 03 09:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6940160 | Jan 03 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Debian, please plan for Stretch https://nthykier.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/debian-please-plan-for-stretch/ #debian #gnu #linux | Jan 03 09:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nthykier.wordpress.com | Debian, please plan for Stretch | nthykier | Jan 03 09:08 | |
| schestowitz | "what about able to install #systemd free distro?" | Jan 03 09:08 |
| schestowitz | "I don’t think Debian will allow that going forward. | Jan 03 09:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 03 09:08 |
| schestowitz | Devuan | Jan 03 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr (blog.jolla.com) | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WjaAj3OUb6 (linuxg.net) #nokia | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #finland #sailfishos | Jan 03 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjtb | Jan 03 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 03 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Jolla Cannot Ship Tablets To All Their Backers, But Will Reward The Unlucky Fans | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Unikernel Firewall for #QubesOS | Jan 03 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qHBor2j3nx (roscidus.com) | Jan 03 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #freesw | Jan 03 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjtn | Jan 03 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-roscidus.com | A Unikernel Firewall for QubesOS - Thomas Leonard's blog | Jan 03 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn’t do no | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | drugs https://t.co/120kcKMclj | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.darknedgy.net) "concise tour of | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | microkernel myths and misconceptions" | Jan 03 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjto | Jan 03 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.darknedgy.net | Microkernels are slow and Elvis didn't do no drugs | Jan 03 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rawhide year in review https://t.co/sVKG924Uy0 | Jan 03 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scrye.com | Rawhide year in review – Kevin's musings | Jan 03 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WWuUEQ9vn9 (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2lN7b0efnG (github.com) | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sHNurznRx9 (lists.debian.org) | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odju1 | Jan 03 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool - Phoronix | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Managing Debian packages with cme · dod38fr/config-model Wiki · GitHub | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @3RDI_TEK favourited 'A Unikernel Firewall for #QubesOS https://t.co/qHBor2j3nx #security #freesw' | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/01/msg00000.html ) | Jan 03 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Debian Gets A New Packaging Tool https://t.co/WWuUEQ9vn9 https://t.co/2lN7b0efnG...' | Jan 03 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Firejail - Sandbox for Linux, wanna build a | Jan 03 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | castle? https://t.co/qGdIQyzQFP | Jan 03 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.dedoimedo.com) | Jan 03 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Firejail - Sandbox for Linux, wanna build a castle? | Jan 03 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjul | Jan 03 09:20 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @JollaBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr...' | Jan 03 09:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 03 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The big Android 6.0 Marshmallow update list: | Jan 03 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Start of 2015 edition | Jan 03 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wITGZskRRz (www.gsmarena.com) | Jan 03 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjvk | Jan 03 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | The big Android 6.0 Marshmallow update list: Start of 2015 edition - GSMArena.com news | Jan 03 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Access Without Empowerment (LibrePlanet 2015 | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keynote) | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yrlJaz4cnX (mako.cc) | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjw3 | Jan 03 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mako.cc | Access Without Empowerment (LibrePlanet 2015 Keynote) – copyrighteous | Jan 03 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE Desktop Has Been Spotted On Ubuntu Touch | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4ExrONtVd3 (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjw4 | Jan 03 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | MATE Desktop Has Been Spotted On Ubuntu Touch | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux distributions, which one is perfect for | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | you? https://t.co/KBKNF2snTq (www.marksei.com) | Jan 03 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjw5 | Jan 03 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marksei.com | Linux distributions, which one is perfect for you? – Marksei | Jan 03 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3z717b/linux_tablet_for_modification/ | Jan 03 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Linux tablet for modification : linux | Jan 03 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | done this beofre... | Jan 03 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unity 8 Will Permit The Users To Swipe Between | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apps While In Full Screen | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/25Fg96REPu (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwm | Jan 03 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Unity 8 Will Permit The Users To Swipe Between Apps While In Full Screen | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Deepin OS 15 - I'M IN LOVE! | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Os6TGzviLM (www.youtube.com) | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwn | Jan 03 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Deepin OS 15 - I'M IN LOVE! - YouTube | Jan 03 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PHP 7.0 packages released | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oduM69rnGV (www.archlinux.org) | Jan 03 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odjwo | Jan 03 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: PHP 7.0 packages released | Jan 03 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/683586991276081156 | Jan 03 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Wow!!!!!!!!! https://t.co/xlwJ8Naxv8 | Jan 03 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: OSjs Is A New Javascript Based Open Source Operating System Running In Your Browser https://t.co/bBtPTqBcAu #freesw | Jan 03 10:03 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 03 10:33 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: before LLVM Microsoft was demanding puring their own complier for console development. | Jan 03 10:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chakuari/status/683597794570014720 | Jan 03 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chakuari: @alexanderhanff @schestowitz would you suggest Slackware today? | Jan 03 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: now they embrace it to harm GCC, I think | Jan 03 10:37 |
| schestowitz | copyleft | Jan 03 10:37 |
| schestowitz | RMS complained about this | Jan 03 10:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there is many sides to it. | Jan 03 10:38 |
| oiaohm | 1 MS and Apple own compliers have been able to keep up with C and C++ standards. | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > x http://blog.teleri.net/open-microsoft/ | Jan 03 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.teleri.net | Open Microsoft | Jan 03 10:39 | |
| schestowitz | (Standard disclaimer: I write for me, not Microsoft, despite working there) | Jan 03 10:39 |
| schestowitz | LOL - writing for one's wallet. | Jan 03 10:39 |
| oiaohm | 2 Gcc does not allow them extended it. | Jan 03 10:39 |
| oiaohm | So LLVM is BSD and Unix all over again. | Jan 03 10:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LavieRemi/status/683599601555927041 | Jan 03 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LavieRemi: Tu es animateur BAFA ? inscris toi sur animyjob c'est 100% gratuit https://t.co/5oezR8s2UY #bafa https://t.co/OTMIAWmAQc | Jan 03 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'animyjob.com' ( status 0 @ http://animyjob.com ) | Jan 03 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Facebook the enemy of truth and civic unity? https://t.co/8GJVNyYPgk #facebook a truly VILE company, not "social" or friend | Jan 03 10:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Nexus 6P Review - Android Overdose | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0A5whqGHYr (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odk2a | Jan 03 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google Nexus 6P Review - Android Overdose | Jan 03 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RlrXs0AmrR (www.infoworld.com) | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odk2b | Jan 03 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016 Won't Be Exciting For Linux Desktop | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enthusiasts https://t.co/ZWTVTs3ocd | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odk2c | Jan 03 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | CES 2016 Won't Be Too Exciting For Linux Desktop Enthusiasts - Phoronix | Jan 03 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | >>> old: | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >>> >> x http://blog.teleri.net/open-microsoft/ | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > (Standard disclaimer: I write for me, not Microsoft, despite working there) | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | >> > LOL - writing for one's wallet. | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | > I lost the link (or sent it already) but there is a case about | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | > disparagement clauses in contracts. If those are found to be invalid, | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | > then maybe some former softers can come out of the cold. | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Even after leaving the company, in some cases... | Jan 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the ex-MSFT who complained about the MSFT tax dodge... his site is gone. He didn't renew, so it's down the sinkhole, Web Archive, or sites that refer to it and sometimes quote from it.... | Jan 03 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/683639807759769600 | Jan 03 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz If a product is apparently free then you are the product. | Jan 03 13:24 | |
| oiaohm | The fact that the possibility of Linux desktops being at CES is something new in it self. | Jan 03 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7FgMY8wPjT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odkdm | Jan 03 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Linux predictions for 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines State of the Red Hat union is secur | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cqUVveN4Um (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odkdo | Jan 03 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | State of the Red Hat union is secur | Tux Machines | Jan 03 13:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683640120264769537 | Jan 03 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz The #freemium model. | Jan 03 13:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexanderhanff/status/683641056534073344 | Jan 03 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexanderhanff: @chakuari @schestowitz I dont know I havent used it for over a decade | Jan 03 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Drew_R_Pearce/status/683641509749592065 | Jan 03 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Drew_R_Pearce: We see these platforms as 'neutral' but can shape interactions, I wonder if we could see #opensource alt in future. https://t.co/U1xmwpihOa | Jan 03 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How long before #twitter pulls another #facebook & decides to do 'experiments', like manipulating what people do in timelines. Neutrality? | Jan 03 13:43 | |
| schestowitz | There's Diaspora already, the main one that I use, but it's small | Jan 03 13:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/683641774615719936 | Jan 03 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz I find twitter handy to point me at news stories I've missed - I mostly avoid FB (my mother is on it!) | Jan 03 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nyakasanga/status/683641976651149312 | Jan 03 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nyakasanga: @schestowitz join Facebook | Jan 03 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683642549987315713 | Jan 03 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz For anyone else: https://t.co/gAT5t5cba5 and never hesitate to join the #backuptheinternetproject ;-) | Jan 03 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> archive.org | Internet Archive: Wayback Machine | Jan 03 13:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Drew_R_Pearce/status/683646174625198085 | Jan 03 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Drew_R_Pearce: @schestowitz (and I mean a larger portion of users) | Jan 03 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/683654030829195264 | Jan 03 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz if only routers were not closed and limited as fr ok m major ISPs | Jan 03 14:28 | |
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| msb_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4U0KBvzi7g | Jan 03 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Shriekback - This Big Hush - YouTube | Jan 03 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | In the following page the latest 3 items relate to the experience of an SME: | Jan 03 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Jan 03 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jan 03 17:06 | |
| schestowitz | I hope that some time soon the parliamentary aspect of this story will become safe to publicise too. | Jan 03 17:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will | Jan 03 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Receive One https://t.co/o2qDwfoYyq | Jan 03 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3u | Jan 03 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will Receive One | Tux Machines | Jan 03 17:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been | Jan 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/WOQxPS2mBE (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3v | Jan 03 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been Released | LinuxG.net | Jan 03 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Jan 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tFTgBPoqEy (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3x | Jan 03 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 - Phoronix | Jan 03 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qmmp 1.0.5 (Winamp-like Media Player) Has Been | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/WOQxPS2mBE (linuxg.net) | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3y | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro #Fluxbox 15.12 released | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JJUgAkFzYC (manjaro.github.io) | Jan 03 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl3z | Jan 03 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Jan 03 17:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines State of the #RedHat union is secure | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nfAFB7EXxS (www.albawaba.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ghgoy3Mn0T | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (theenterpriseleader.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albawaba.com | State of the Red Hat union is secur | Al Bawaba | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl68 | Jan 03 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theenterpriseleader.com | Growth Score By Zacks: Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Receive One https://t.co/PTQCOOm3dP | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl69 | Jan 03 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Not Everyone Who Ordered A Jolla Tablet Will Receive One - Phoronix | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Founder’s Last Tweets About a Police | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encounter Saved on Archive . is | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xPeLJrDNf5 (observer.com) | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl6a | Jan 03 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-observer.com | Debian Founder’s Last Tweets About a Police Encounter Saved on Archive.is | | Observer | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/uXFZXXx6L7 | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl6b | Jan 03 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/fxDBaRrov7 | Jan 03 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl6c | Jan 03 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/wuHc9l8fFR | Jan 03 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl6d | Jan 03 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released | Jan 03 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/R2r9Z5qTKF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odl6e | Jan 03 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Fluxbox 15.12 released | Tux Machines | Jan 03 18:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/683654432802902016 | Jan 03 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @FredSimonEU nice 2 meet u again 6 yrs after our BXL meeting on antitrust/mergers/IP and my EurActiv contribution | Jan 03 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | lobbying? | Jan 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/patent-amendments-not-allowed-during.html?showComment=1451782911326#c3864190626744412351 | Jan 03 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Patent amendments not allowed during court proceedngs, rules Malaysia's highest court [ http://ur1.ca/odle9 ] | Jan 03 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | "The decision of the Malaysian Federal Court is self-evidently foolish (I am always reluctant to use the word 'wrong' about rulings of final appellate courts). However, it is not uncommon across jurisdictions for a court to convince itself of the fallacy that a dependent claim is somehow fatally 'infected' by the invalidity of its associated independent claim. Fortunately, this usually happens before some judge at first instance who is | Jan 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | relatively inexperienced in patent law, and either remains an irrelevant curiosity, or is corrected on appeal." | Jan 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/683659000504778752 | Jan 03 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @FOSSpatents safety nets? | Jan 03 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | see context: | Jan 03 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2015/12/patent-amendments-not-allowed-during.html?showComment=1451820742114#c9047948031229625128 | Jan 03 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Patent amendments not allowed during court proceedngs, rules Malaysia's highest court [ http://ur1.ca/odlen ] | Jan 03 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: nice one... | Jan 03 18:58 |
| schestowitz | !google apple pregnant safety nets | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - What Foods You Should Eat (and Not Eat) When Pregnant « | http://kimberlysnyder.com/blog/2012/02/07/what-foods-you-should-eat-and-not-eat-when-pregnant/ | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Apple consumption during pregnancy reduces risk for childhood ... | http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/67314.php | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Why Avoid Non-Organic Foods During Pregnancy? | http://www.healingourchildren.net/Pregnancy_Diet/Why_Avoid_Non.html | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Supplier Responsibility Standards - Apple | https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple_Supplier_Responsibility_Standards.pdf | Jan 03 18:58 |
| schestowitz | I guess only [4] turned out to be relevant, and Apple spin | Jan 03 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Jan 03 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DjfTmUjrsT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd Saw The Most Commits Ever In 2015 | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/hw6ZXHd2a5 | Jan 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Reproducible Builds | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Reproducible Builds | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE New Year https://t.co/BAFFPvYmWK | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE New Year | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/bq4G7Kyiii | Jan 03 19:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready for Fedora and OpenSUSE | Tux Machines | Jan 03 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2016/01/worlds-greatest-spy-movies-c4-trailer.html | Jan 03 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anniemachon.ch | World’s Greatest Spy Movies – C4 Trailer - Using Our Intelligence - Annie Machon | Jan 03 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/683711552604749829 | Jan 03 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Keep in mind that Alison Brimelow isn't so innocent! Evil events at the EPO started possibly even long before her presidency! | Jan 03 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714277425967104 https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714465968295936 | Jan 03 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz actually the Hammonds, who are white, were prosecuted as terrorists for starting a fire on their land that spread to fed land | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz this "this would be called terrorism if not for race" bit is getting tired. equivalent of "i'm not gonna call you a dick but... | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edkrayewski/status/683714697254825984 | Jan 03 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edkrayewski: @schestowitz how many people saying "this would/should be terrorism" and "this IS terrorism" does it take to reject claim no one's doing it? | Jan 03 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/david_jansen/status/683730911062523905 | Jan 03 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@david_jansen: @schestowitz @digital_human for extra slow mail delivery ;-) | Jan 03 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/683731225513693184 | Jan 03 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: awful; & #climatechange likely to spread this widely across Americas... https://t.co/a7Q1ccqF7L | Jan 03 19:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qz: A virus linked to shrinking newborns' brains is spreading rapidly beyond Brazil https://t.co/X7znICyMpa https://t.co/JQXAkHhW22 | Jan 03 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/johngoode/status/682487228237541376 | Jan 03 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johngoode: BBC website down. Not a mention of it from official Beeb social media channels. #ddos? | Jan 03 19:57 | |
| cubexyz | Facebook, Apple, & Microsoft are basically evil | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | not just them | Jan 03 20:45 |
| cubexyz | believe it or not I think Facebook might be the least evil of the three | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | and some are more evil in certain ways than others | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, in some ways | Jan 03 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Facebook at least uses a lot of Linux and BSD | Jan 03 20:46 |
| schestowitz | and its main issues are surveillance and censorship, not attacks on net neutrality | Jan 03 20:46 |
| schestowitz | (which in itself is a serious issue) | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/8fA9cePtF6 | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 03 20:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus' Budgie Desktop Gets Updated and Ready | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by for Fedora and OpenSUSE https://t.co/bq4G7Kyiii | Jan 03 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @TecnologiaFree (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 03 20:46 |
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| cubexyz | Apple might be the worst: the Anti-Packardian Entity of Conspicuous Consumption | Jan 03 20:47 |
| cubexyz | make everyone continually dissatisifed with their possessions, hence new possessions must be acquired | Jan 03 20:48 |
| cubexyz | the idea that people can re-purpose things seems to be rather novel | Jan 03 20:49 |
| cubexyz | well Facebook _can_ actually be good | Jan 03 20:53 |
| cubexyz | https://www.facebook.com/RepurposedThings | Jan 03 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.facebook.com | Repurposed Recycled Reused Reclaimed Restored | Jan 03 20:54 | |
| cubexyz | I'm a bit in awe of previous generations | Jan 03 20:55 |
| cubexyz | the patience required for knitting socks for example... | Jan 03 20:56 |
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| cubexyz | ok, should be able to round up some of the KDE orphans today | Jan 03 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "Now comes the news that the movie has propelled the domestic box office to its greatest revenues ever in 2015, topping $11 billion for the first time." | Jan 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/star-wars-is-making-zillions-of-dollars | Jan 03 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/star-wars-is-making-zillions-of-dollars ) | Jan 03 22:33 | |
| schestowitz | It's a crappy franchise, never liked it... | Jan 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | [07:21] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt | Jan 03 23:17 |
| schestowitz | good | Jan 03 23:17 |
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| cubexyz | back in 1977 Star Wars was kind of a big deal | Jan 03 23:25 |
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| cubexyz | still have my 1977 poster: | Jan 03 23:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/star-wars-original-1977-poster.png | Jan 03 23:45 |
| cubexyz | don't bother with it now though | Jan 03 23:46 |
| cubexyz | now the tech from 1977 interests me, but that is about it | Jan 03 23:47 |
| cubexyz | Christmas 1980: | Jan 03 23:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/star-wars-tie-fighter-display.jpg | Jan 03 23:48 |
| cubexyz | oops, wrong pic | Jan 03 23:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/christmas-1980-toytown-star-wars.jpg | Jan 03 23:54 |
| cubexyz | you can see some reflection of yonge street there | Jan 03 23:56 |
| schestowitz | is the movie any good? | Jan 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | saw the trailer earlier | Jan 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | seems like it would only appeal to cultists | Jan 03 23:58 |
| cubexyz | well I was about 12 back then :) | Jan 03 23:59 |
| schestowitz | and the reviews average at around 4/5 | Jan 03 23:59 |
| cubexyz | all the kids were talking about it | Jan 03 23:59 |
| cubexyz | yes, as a youngster I liked it, but I haven't seen the original movie in a long time | Jan 03 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenJDK in the News https://t.co/887PAFtwfW | Jan 04 00:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenJDK in the News | Tux Machines | Jan 04 00:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The way you write https://t.co/YeS4b3ISr4 | Jan 04 00:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The way you write | Tux Machines | Jan 04 00:41 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 04 08:35 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Cobrian/status/683908372341592064 | Jan 04 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cobrian: @schestowitz A zillion ads, and no link to the video that I could see... | Jan 04 08:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @seclabor #OpenSource 01a is out! https://t.co/U8QJKJeYu3 | Jan 04 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Stories via @Security_FAQs | Jan 04 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PedroArtino @tuxmachines | Jan 04 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | #OpenSource 01a | Jan 04 09:19 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rdrake98/status/683938808644169729 | Jan 04 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rdrake98: As is typical, the article fails to say how many coal mines, and coal-fired power stations, are open right now https://t.co/c5CnEKAZ58 | Jan 04 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #China clamps down on #coal https://t.co/hEmG9DXGi0 | Jan 04 09:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, | Jan 04 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Clement Lefebvre https://t.co/j2HvipZCkP | Jan 04 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, Says Clement Lefebvre | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking your Linux computer for a better | Jan 04 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | listening experience https://t.co/YPgYTnHiRv | Jan 04 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hacking your Linux computer for a better listening experience | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports | Jan 04 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GStreamer 1.0, New Gadu-Gadu Library | Jan 04 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/inoAJvDuFR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports GStreamer 1.0, New Gadu-Gadu Library | Tux Machines | Jan 04 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Stallman Cycle https://t.co/EUbY5EgRRn | Jan 04 09:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hiking a mountain with Ian #Murdock | Jan 04 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/stallman-cycle.txt ) | Jan 04 09:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Hiking a mountain with Ian Murdock | The Changelog | Jan 04 09:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The way you write https://t.co/635NHD2Mpo | Jan 04 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (standardsandfreedom.net) | Jan 04 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standardsandfreedom.net | The way you write | Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards | Jan 04 09:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines “welcome a Linux-running PS4” | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xwDhJThCD0 (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Here's your Linux-booting PS4, says fail0verflow • The Register | Jan 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The open source Itch games store app needs | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | translators https://t.co/5KmZut30mY | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The open source Itch games store app needs translators | GamingOnLinux | Jan 04 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: What To Expect From Android Police's | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coverage Of The World's Biggest Tech Show | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6CGSS4EfAo (www.androidpolice.com) | Jan 04 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | CES 2016: What To Expect From Android Police's Coverage Of The World's Biggest Tech Show | Jan 04 10:01 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/683952862037020672 | Jan 04 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: #Debian Well, not quite ;-) date +%s 1451902031 https://t.co/4Fa2fl9j5s | Jan 04 10:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Happy 1.5 Billion #Unix Seconds https://t.co/7k5z0Acwe9 | Jan 04 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five Android Tablet Tricks For Your Lounge Room | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cCxiuOjtbg (www.gizmodo.com.au) | Jan 04 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Five Android Tablet Tricks For Your Lounge Room | Gizmodo Australia | Jan 04 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Does the Use of Docker Effect Latency? | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w6cIq96Pu0 (highscalability.com) | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "characteristics are pretty much | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | indistinguishable from Linux itself." | Jan 04 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-highscalability.com | How Does the Use of Docker Effect Latency? - High Scalability - | Jan 04 10:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based #CalculateLinux 15.12 Distro | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings AMDGPU Driver Support, QupZilla | Jan 04 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3Zf38b5NpL (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 15.12 Distro Brings AMDGPU Driver Support, QupZilla | Jan 04 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Can you use Free Software editors for more | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | than applying a pretty effects...?" | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pyGiL6V6Rh (www.ocsmag.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | The Video Editing Challenge – Part II: Natron | OCS-Mag | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nfbx57he2i (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/t9BKTdCvNf (solus-project.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates and Improvements for 2016 | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #16 | Solus Project | Jan 04 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 04 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FZRJ1Mw2q5 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8 | Jan 04 10:23 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/z_eisberg/status/683955820518879232 | Jan 04 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@z_eisberg: RT @schestowitz "Can you use Free Software editors for more than applying a pretty effects...?" https://t.co/jwrbQa7fXs ... | Jan 04 10:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DanFreysinger/status/683958144255410177 | Jan 04 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DanFreysinger: @schestowitz Terrorism - the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. #OregonUnderAttack | Jan 04 10:31 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Regarding your Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card, I think I used to have one of those without the FM, and I don't remember what drivers it used, but now I have a higher-rez Avermedia card that uses the standard v4l video-for-Linux drivers. Have you looked at those? The FM might be included. | Jan 04 10:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AlrightRodders/status/683958730715693057 | Jan 04 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AlrightRodders: @DanFreysinger @schestowitz and yet they haven't fired or shot or taken a hostage or blown themselves up. They're just there. | Jan 04 10:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaiaLogic/status/683958807244988416 | Jan 04 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaiaLogic: @schestowitz You don't get to redefine a word because the truth makes you a terrorist sympathizer. | Jan 04 10:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaiaLogic/status/683958955656253440 | Jan 04 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GaiaLogic: @schestowitz Definition includes threats to kill or maim, which they have done, for a political ideology = TERRORISTS. | Jan 04 10:32 | |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Police threaten to kill or maim every day for political ideologies like drug and tax laws. | Jan 04 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PDTCBOyde5 (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares 2.0 Graphical Linux Installer | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines paldo GNU/Linux review https://t.co/spsdIkzuDZ | Jan 04 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | msb_: they are a "special case" | Jan 04 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Says Clement Lefebvre https://t.co/FSBSkwHY6Y | Jan 04 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | 2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux Mint, Says Clement Lefebvre | Jan 04 10:36 | |
| r_schestowitz | as if, you need a thug to battle thugs | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | the problem is, in the US esp., the balance was lost | Jan 04 10:36 |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Right -- "exceptionalism". | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | and now the police are often as bad as the organised crime they fight | Jan 04 10:36 |
| r_schestowitz | one might be better off paying tax money to vigilantes there, not PDs | Jan 04 10:37 |
| r_schestowitz | same thing, different uniform (if any) | Jan 04 10:37 |
| r_schestowitz | "undercover" police=vigilante | Jan 04 10:37 |
| r_schestowitz | TBH, police brutality here looks like a joke compared to the US | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | In the US over 1000 people were killed last year by police | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | here it would maybe be something like 0 | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | 10 | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | and they would quite likely be very special cases (not all of them) | Jan 04 10:38 |
| r_schestowitz | !google raul moat | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northumbria_Police_manhunt | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 'Suffering' killer Raoul Moat had final heart-to-heart with notorious ... | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/suffering-killer-raoul-moat-final-5992458 | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - BBC News - Timeline of Raoul Moat shootings | http://www.bbc.com/news/10583120 | Jan 04 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Raoul Moat: Gazza arrives in Rothbury to 'offer his support' - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html | Jan 04 10:39 |
| r_schestowitz | " Paul Gascoigne, the former England international footballer, arrived in Rothbury on Friday night to offer his support to gunman Raoul Moat, who was in an armed stand-off with police. " | Jan 04 10:40 |
| r_schestowitz | I didn't know that... | Jan 04 10:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northumbria_Police_manhunt | Jan 04 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/odofs ] | Jan 04 10:41 | |
| r_schestowitz | "A major police operation took place in the summer of 2010 in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland, England, during which armed police officers under the command of the Northumbria Police force were deployed to apprehend Raoul Moat, a 37-year-old man from Newcastle upon Tyne who was on the run after shooting three people in two days. His victims were ex-girlfriend Samantha Stobbart, her new partner Chris Brown, and police officer David | Jan 04 10:41 |
| r_schestowitz | Rathband. " | Jan 04 10:41 |
| msb_ | According to an AP article today on this story, | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | "Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to peacefully report to | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge. | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | "Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | their property from wildfires. | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | "The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back | Jan 04 10:42 |
| msb_ | to prison for about four years each. | Jan 04 10:43 |
| msb_ | Even if those two guys fought the federal government in the courts and won it would probably be four years before they got out of prison. | Jan 04 10:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hacking your Linux computer for a better | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | listening experience https://t.co/YQ7SeO7RVP | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) | Jan 04 10:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Hacking your Linux computer for a better listening experience | Opensource.com | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4-rc8 https://t.co/k5ocwnPSfI (lwn.net) | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BfPjKqxVDn (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 04 10:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Linux 4.4-rc8 [LWN.net] | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.4-rc8 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/fVrTDtAxrS | Jan 04 10:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Jan 04 10:49 | |
| msb_ | The thing about democracy is that the voters can be made to vote for anything if the corporate media lie to them about long enough and consistently enough. Like the laws against utterly harmless cannabis, which have put millions of people in prison, sometimes for decades. | Jan 04 10:50 |
| msb_ | It's just like a dictatorship, but superficially it looks good. | Jan 04 10:52 |
| msb_ | about -> about it | Jan 04 10:53 |
| r_schestowitz | media is a cornerstone | Jan 04 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | or pillar | Jan 04 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | in the US corporations corrupted its autonomy | Jan 04 10:54 |
| msb_ | corporate media is a tombstone | Jan 04 10:54 |
| r_schestowitz | and it harms a great deal, e.g. when the most popular (by polls) candidate gets little air time | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | because he uses anti-wall street rhetoric | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and Wall Street has a grip on much of the media | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | see where CBS, Conde Nast, AP etc. are based | Jan 04 10:55 |
| r_schestowitz | (their HQ, not their so-called 'reporters') | Jan 04 10:56 |
| msb_ | Apparently most Americans don't really think. They just absorb TV impressions and from opinions. | Jan 04 10:56 |
| msb_ | from -> form | Jan 04 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 https://t.co/hyOUyMVCUo | Jan 04 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run Linux in your browser | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vUx38KkizE (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 04 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | How to run Linux in your browser - TechzimTechzim | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ffHU5sp4Vv | Jan 04 11:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 11:06 | |
| msb_ | r_schestowitz: Wonderful promo about mainstream media for a news discussion program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7K7SaEgB7w | Jan 04 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Watching the Hawks: Questioning more than the mainstream media - YouTube | Jan 04 11:07 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NewsCoverUp/status/683978165992185856 | Jan 04 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NewsCoverUp: @schestowitz Leaving #Windows is a matter of Life or Death by now Or will be very soon. | Jan 04 11:50 | |
| r_schestowitz | Digital death, yes... | Jan 04 11:50 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/683980596759150593 | Jan 04 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz CNN that's the crony corp that ate #satcom | Jan 04 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.4-rc8 https://t.co/jKA7MqDbMB | Jan 04 12:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4-rc8 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines paldo GNU/Linux https://t.co/cGXJwJw9jn | Jan 04 12:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | paldo GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/oJFyWD3hRz | Jan 04 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu | Jan 04 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 https://t.co/Xru4WjH7ta | Jan 04 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines News about the #jolla #linux based #tablet | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/M9rsV6NNpr (blog.jolla.com) | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @M4rtinK https://t.co/WjaAj3OUb6 (linuxg.net) #nokia | Jan 04 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #finland #sailfishos | Jan 04 12:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jolla.com | New Year’s Greetings from Jolla! | Jolla Blog | Jan 04 12:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Pidgin 2.10.12 Open Source IM Client Supports GStreamer...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Jolla Cannot Ship Tablets To All Their Backers, But Will Reward The Unlucky Fans | LinuxG.net | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based #CalculateLinux 15.12 Distro Brings AMDGPU Driver Support,...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus 1.0 Linux Receives the First Software Updates...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 Out Now for Linux...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: What's Coming in 2016 for the Calamares...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MATE 1.12.1 Lands in Debian Unstable and Ubuntu...' | Jan 04 12:26 | |
| XRevan86 | > linux-image-4.2.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64_4.2-3_amd64.deb 22-Sep-2015 | Jan 04 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | Siduction used to get new Linux releases in a day after it gets to kernel.org. | Jan 04 12:31 |
| XRevan86 | Then something happend. | Jan 04 12:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LadyKorenwolf/status/683985179862515712 | Jan 04 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LadyKorenwolf: @schestowitz to quote my husband: "'Home of the Brave'? Yeah, right." America, Home of the Terrified. | Jan 04 12:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '2016 Will Be an Exciting Year for Linux...' | Jan 04 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, | Jan 04 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop https://t.co/1lWrdmZX4V | Jan 04 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Jan 04 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odorf | Jan 04 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop | Techrights | Jan 04 12:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/PUiozosBGu | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/8zL6b777KW | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odorh | Jan 04 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/qEWRZRAS0B | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/i9FLPrJaNx | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odorj | Jan 04 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/r87OhS8pDz | Jan 04 12:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/k5emhqWQS9 | Jan 04 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) now with accurate Spanish | Jan 04 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | translations also | Jan 04 12:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop...' | Jan 04 12:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 4/1/2016: Jolla Tablets, 4MLinux 15.0, Budgie Desktop...' | Jan 04 12:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in | Jan 04 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Memory of Ian Murdock https://t.co/oJFyWD3hRz | Jan 04 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian-Based siduction OS Gets New Release in Memory of Ian Murdock | Tux Machines | Jan 04 12:57 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 14:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | all-in-one https://t.co/FEme6iscnd | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 all-in-one | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/llxy9LzGIp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mobile N5L phone no favors | Jan 04 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BeMwigltny (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 15:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu Mobile N5L phone no favors | Tux Machines | Jan 04 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and open source have won, get over it | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HLhKT5rkkx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and open source have won, get over it | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Are Really Impressive https://t.co/8aXaO9viQT | Jan 04 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers Are Really Impressive | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/o7C05K6276 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four Years of Support for the Branch | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/k5emhqWQS9 | Jan 04 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) now with accurate Spanish | Jan 04 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz translations also | Jan 04 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 16:26 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks...' | Jan 04 16:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice Downloads and Development Numbers Are Really Impressive...' | Jan 04 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Weekend in Techrights https://t.co/azXcoqvFaq | Jan 04 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Jan 04 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 04 17:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Archos Introduce Power Line of Budget Android | Jan 04 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphones https://t.co/1xSLujjv2e | Jan 04 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Archos Introduce Power Line of Budget Android Smartphones | Androidheadlines.com | Jan 04 17:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | all-in-one https://t.co/NHhqgqp7o7 | Jan 04 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linux multi-booting my new Acer Aspire Z3 all-in-one | ZDNet | Jan 04 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4rnLDZ4ync (betanews.com) | Jan 04 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Acer goes gaga for Google's Linux-based OS with Chromebase 24 and Chromebook 11 | Jan 04 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Low-end hardware does cheap, supersize Nuu | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mobile N5L phone no favors | Jan 04 17:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/W1V0UBMS7P (www.cnet.com) | Jan 04 17:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Nuu N5L Release Date, Price and Specs - CNET | Jan 04 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and open source have won, get over it | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NeqmTrhbdF (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 04 17:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Linux and open source have won, get over it | ZDNet | Jan 04 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3sztX6MqB1 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 04 17:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks Four Years of Support for the Branch | Jan 04 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | glorifying an evil person, in "progressive" site http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2016/01/04/3735721/zuckerberg-girl-nerds/ | Jan 04 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Woman Says She Encourages Her Granddaughters To 'Date The Nerd.' Mark Zuckerberg Has A Better Idea. | ThinkProgress | Jan 04 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/684067181026492417 | Jan 04 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: @schestowitz happy UEFI/ME on Acer & install libreboot on lenovo.. | Jan 04 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alegrasiempre/status/684069671600021504 | Jan 04 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alegrasiempre: @schestowitz terrible! | Jan 04 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944234 | Jan 04 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux and open source have won, get over it http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-and-open-source-have-won-get-over-it/ | Jan 04 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Except that personal computing is still largely proprietary for a majority of people. We still have a long way to go." | Jan 04 18:10 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.2.75 LTS Is Out and Marks...' | Jan 04 18:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye | Jan 04 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 18:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LOUeupiMp4 (fossbytes.com) | Jan 04 18:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Why Linux-powered "World's Safest Drone" Fleye Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 18:24 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Why is Mark Zuckerberg considered evil? | Jan 04 18:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/684085437133107201 | Jan 04 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz More SMART devices meaning more surveillance? | Jan 04 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily, but potentially... | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | msb_: not as evil as some | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | But evil nonetheless | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | see this from days ago http://techrights.org/2016/01/01/facebook-basic-slavery/ | Jan 04 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mark[et] Zuckerberg’s ‘Free’ Basics Evokes Memory of Him Famously Saying “Facebook Users Are Dumb Fucks… I’m Going to Fuck Them, Probably in the Ear” | Techrights | Jan 04 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | sociopath | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | even when he was young | Jan 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | what kind of person would make statements like that about early adopters of his platform? | Jan 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | A sociopath | Jan 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Watch it getting worse as he gets older and richer | Jan 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | he already avoids tax using the same tricks as Billy | Jan 04 18:58 |
| oiaohm | Tax avoidance by large companies is standard prac not limited to any one company. | Jan 04 18:59 |
| schestowitz | doesn't make it any better | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | class crime | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | and need to end | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | some companies do it worse than others | Jan 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | and some countries are more welcoming and lenient than others | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Switzerland, Singapore, Cayman etc. | Jan 04 19:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: It's not clear what "free basic" means. Is he getting companies in India to advertise in f***book and thus avoiding taxes? Monsanto GMO is poisonous, but some stupid program??? | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the world's rich nations | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | even tiny Luxembourg | Jan 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Seems like it's main industry is shrinking tax liabilities, or helping companies steal from Europeans | Jan 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Lichtenstein... | Jan 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | msb_: read on it | Jan 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | been very big news this past 1-3 months | Jan 04 19:05 |
| msb_ | give me a specific page link | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | esp. in India | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | !google why facebook free basics is evil | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft slams Facebook's Free Basics initiative in India | Windows ... | http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-slams-facebooks-free-basics-initiative-india | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - India's Argument Over Facebook's Free Basics Heats Up: The ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/12/30/indias-argument-over-facebooks-free-basics-heats-up-the-economics-is-clear-here/ | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Facebook is Misleading Indians With its Full-page Ads About Free ... | http://thewire.in/2015/12/26/facebook-is-misleading-indians-with-its-full-page-ads-about-free-basics-17971/ | Jan 04 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Facebook Myths and the Facts about 'Free' Basics: Distortion Again ... | http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/facebook-myths-and-the-facts-about-free-basics-distortion-again-292590.html | Jan 04 19:05 |
| msb_ | facebook or free basic | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | lol, even MS complains | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | probably for some selfish reasons of Microsoft | Jan 04 19:05 |
| schestowitz | msb_: it's not an "OR" | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Facebook pushes this crap | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | and ISPs pay | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Not Facebook | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | It's an attack on net neutrality | Jan 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Along the lines of "feeding the world's hungry" (motto/slogan for GMO propaganda in India, Africa) | Jan 04 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/i9FLPrJaNx | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @GUSLSanFelix | Jan 04 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 19:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Better Than Google Glass? | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RjACFQ5iBJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux-powered “World’s Safest Drone” Fleye Is Better Than Google Glass? | Tux Machines | Jan 04 19:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung to unveil new Tizen Smart Fridge with | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MASSIVE display at CES 2016 | Jan 04 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z5Untjl0Dh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung to unveil new Tizen Smart Fridge with MASSIVE display at CES 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 04 19:08 | |
| msb_ | So "free basic" is really "free basic internet access"? Selective and with ads? | Jan 04 19:10 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: So "free basic" is really "free basic internet access"? Selective and with ads? | Jan 04 19:11 |
| schestowitz | http://kevincarmony.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/michael-robertson-sues-me-to-impede-my.html | Jan 04 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevincarmony.blogspot.co.uk | Kevin Carmony's Blog: Michael Robertson Sues Me to Impede My Freedom of Speech on the Internet | Jan 04 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | remember Carmony? | Jan 04 19:20 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 04 19:20 |
| schestowitz | his blog is dead now | Jan 04 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/robert_reich_is_petitioning_the_dnc_for_more_presidential_debates_20160104/ | Jan 04 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | Robert Reich Is Petitioning the DNC for More Presidential Debates - Truthdig | Jan 04 19:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/cosby_20160103/ | Jan 04 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | Clay Bennett: Cosby - Clay Bennett - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/odqcf ] | Jan 04 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/developerangst/status/684098104749076481 | Jan 04 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@developerangst: @schestowitz who would want to copy it these days?! | Jan 04 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | People who always copied it because they disregarded ethics and laws anyway | Jan 04 19:48 |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=W-XOR-E-Firefox this is interesting. | Jan 04 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | Write XOR Execute JIT Support Lands For Mozilla Firefox - Phoronix | Jan 04 19:49 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ok that free basic stuff is funny. Lot of countries run Man in Middle HTTPS interception. Now that a company like facebook wants to lets get upset. | Jan 04 19:51 |
| *amarsh04 just managed to get kwin 4:5.4.3-1.1 on Debian working again by applying https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126361/ | Jan 04 19:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.reviewboard.kde.org | Unblock signals in child processes | Review Request | Review Board [ http://ur1.ca/odqet ] | Jan 04 19:54 | |
| amarsh04 | there has been no activity in terms of new versions of KDE packages in Debian in the last month apparently | Jan 04 19:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/684101357972910081 | Jan 04 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @schestowitz https://t.co/CezmHenj13 | Jan 04 20:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.democracynow.org | Democracy Now! | Jan 04 20:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944289 | Jan 04 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did #MinimumWage Increases Hurt Employment During the Great Recession? http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/did-minimum-wage-increases-hurt-employment-during-great-recession "the world is awash in minimum wage studies." | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | Did Minimum Wage Increases Hurt Employment During the Great Recession? | Mother Jones | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944625 | Jan 04 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Passing #law to basically serve as made-up #protectionism using new words & virtual concepts, keeping the rich richer https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/684103425798307841 | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @ipwatchdog yes because without beliefs and corruption of politicians, virtual property does not exist! | Jan 04 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DNF 1.1.5 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.15 Released | Jan 04 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/o9XIZGQvN5 (dnf.baseurl.org) | Jan 04 20:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 1.1.5 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.15 Released | DNF | Jan 04 20:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Packaging https://t.co/En3h173E24 | Jan 04 20:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Packaging | Tux Machines | Jan 04 20:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Desktop Linux starts 2016 with a bang thanks to | Jan 04 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Acer and Chrome OS https://t.co/PQFNDkX0vh | Jan 04 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cio.com) | Jan 04 20:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Desktop Linux starts 2016 with a bang thanks to Acer and Chrome OS | CIO | Jan 04 20:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation Accelerates Automotive Grade | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/tEnx9RkaSh (www.eweek.com) | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PR: https://t.co/ksYK0depF8 | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.military-technologies.net) | Jan 04 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Linux Foundation Accelerates Automotive Grade Linux | Jan 04 21:33 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.military-technologies.net | Automotive Grade Linux Introduces New Unified Code Base Distribution | Jan 04 21:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dan Gillmor: I Moved to Linux and It’s Even | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Than I Expected | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BzOmmL083s (medium.com) great | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | stuff! https://t.co/O5IJrcVRC7 | Jan 04 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.thememo.com) | Jan 04 21:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com | I Moved to Linux and It’s Even Better Than I Expected — Backchannel — Medium | Jan 04 21:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thememo.com | Should (and could) you ditch Apple, Google and Microsoft? | Jan 04 21:33 | |
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| cubexyz | I think it's important to remember that Linux & BSD distros are aggregates | Jan 04 21:39 |
| cubexyz | massively so | Jan 04 21:39 |
| cubexyz | so if someone comes along with new stuff you don't like it shouldn't be too hard to avoid it | Jan 04 21:40 |
| cubexyz | it may be necessary to dig up old code or fork stuff | Jan 04 21:41 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: true | Jan 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | aggregates | Jan 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | some people use this term for patent pools | Jan 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | or trolls, the big ones, like RPX (cc zoobab ) | Jan 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944775 | Jan 04 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EXCLUSIVE: Most of former NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly's emails deleted before he left #NYPD http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/raymond-kelly-deleted-emails-leaving-nypd-article-1.2482279 #police liars | Jan 04 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | "They have back-ups, right?" | Jan 04 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com | NO TITLE | Jan 04 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | Don't give the dumb cops ideas... or they'll delete those TOO! :-) | Jan 04 21:46 |
| cubexyz | what do I see in new KDE? Words like "unperspicuity" :) | Jan 04 21:49 |
| cubexyz | or rather the description | Jan 04 21:49 |
| cubexyz | speaking of aggregates, akregator still works | Jan 04 22:00 |
| cubexyz | definitely faster than clicking on all the blogs | Jan 04 22:02 |
| cubexyz | in the switch to icewm sometimes one forgets all the good stuff in KDE 3.5 | Jan 04 22:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I find it interesting that X11 development is starting to slow. | Jan 04 22:04 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, care to elaborate or explain? | Jan 04 22:07 |
| cubexyz | does anyone even write xlib programs? :) | Jan 04 22:07 |
| cubexyz | see, my main problem with all the whiz-bang new stuff is it runs like a turd on old computers | Jan 04 22:09 |
| cubexyz | too fancy, too graphically intensive, etc | Jan 04 22:10 |
| cubexyz | so when some developer makes a new plasmoid thingamajig no one would even think of running it on a P3 or dare I say even older computer | Jan 04 22:12 |
| cubexyz | do we want slower less responsive computers? I don't think so | Jan 04 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Compact EPIC SBC runs Linux on Bay Trail, has | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | legacy appeal https://t.co/FaXgGtkfXD | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 04 22:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Compact EPIC SBC runs Linux on Bay Trail, has legacy appeal · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 04 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hats Off to Chapeau Linux's Better Fedora | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Concept https://t.co/ichYNG4Gby | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxinsider.com) | Jan 04 22:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Hats Off to Chapeau Linux's Better Fedora Concept | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Jan 04 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pay what you want for the Android Expert’s | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coding Bundle of five courses | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r2IYJSEFBo (www.technobuffalo.com) | Jan 04 22:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | Pay what you want for the Android Expert’s Coding Bundle of five courses | Jan 04 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dolphin Smalltalk Goes Open Source | Jan 04 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9yY88s9Ojf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 04 22:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dolphin Smalltalk Goes Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 Is Now Ready for | Jan 04 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download and Testing https://t.co/LsZX4LZf9q | Jan 04 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 Is Now Ready for Download and Testing | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/hVAaAY0aj9 | Jan 04 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/YoqFNfSwKF | Jan 04 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:23 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XServer-2015-Statistics | Jan 04 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | X.Org Server Development Slows To Lowest Point In A Decade - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/odqye ] | Jan 04 22:25 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its not that simple. P3 class cpu power exists in new hardware but its normally matched up with a more modern GPU. | Jan 04 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hack allows PS4 to boot Linux, SteamOS should | Jan 04 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “just work” https://t.co/bZ7nIcP9mx | Jan 04 22:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hack allows PS4 to boot Linux, SteamOS should “just work” | Tux Machines | Jan 04 22:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 Is Now...' | Jan 04 22:31 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/684141552294342656 | Jan 04 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Perhaps they are not yet ready with their own spyware https://t.co/Mg255wOxK3 | Jan 04 22:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Still no signs of #lenovo preinstalling #gnu #linux or #bsd rather than the world's worst #malware and #spyware https://t.co/HKrUTByMzj | Jan 04 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | They should try Red Star | Jan 04 22:43 |
| knobby1234 | Roy - just a thought, but how about putting a wee bit more of a positive spin on things? How to make it better would be a good thing. Many years ago I did a degree in Innovation - Block 1 Chapter 2 - A European Patent if applied for is "bad for your wealth" was the basic crux of that 1st year. That was 15 years ago. Stop stating the obvious and start focusing on how to make sure SME's don't lose out. Am on your side really I a | Jan 04 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS Alpha 1 Is Now Ready for | Jan 04 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download and Testing https://t.co/zLiFlLddOt | Jan 04 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | > Also, you might like this. The EFF named Microsoft's design patent for a | Jan 05 00:23 |
| schestowitz | > slider as its Stupid Patent of the Month. | Jan 05 00:23 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider | Jan 05 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Stupid Patent of the Month: Microsoft’s Design Patent on a Slider | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/od2j3 ] | Jan 05 00:23 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Regarding your Hauppauge Win TV-GO-FM card, I think I used to have one of those without the FM, and I don't remember what drivers it used, but now I have a higher-rez Avermedia card that uses the standard v4l video-for-Linux drivers. Have you looked at those? The FM might be included. | Jan 05 00:26 |
| cubexyz | yeah I'm not sure where I put the card | Jan 05 00:32 |
| cubexyz | I know all about bttv etc | Jan 05 00:32 |
| cubexyz | when we took down the big VHF antenna I lost quite a lot of range | Jan 05 00:33 |
| cubexyz | well maybe there's something better, I need to research it | Jan 05 00:40 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, would a 4 terabyte hard drive work on the old BIOS? | Jan 05 00:44 |
| cubexyz | 32-bit sectors and all that | Jan 05 00:45 |
| cubexyz | RCA RP7887 superadio III is supposed to be a really good radio receiver | Jan 05 00:46 |
| cubexyz | not sure how good an idea it is putting the radio receiver inside a computer anyway | Jan 05 00:47 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/hard_drive_size_barriers.htm all kinds of different issues. | Jan 05 00:53 |
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| cubexyz | ok, I know that 80 gig will work | Jan 05 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you will notice older drives have faking modes. | Jan 05 00:55 |
| cubexyz | it's Linux ext2 on this box | Jan 05 00:56 |
| cubexyz | no FAT 32 limit | Jan 05 00:57 |
| oiaohm | bios can refuse to boot if the drive it sees is too large. | Jan 05 00:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes a bios equal to a kernel panic. | Jan 05 00:58 |
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| amarsh04 | I have done that manually in aptitude oiaohm | Jan 05 09:12 |
| amarsh04 | searching for packages removed but not purged | Jan 05 09:12 |
| amarsh04 | this Debian installation is over 11 years old and not reinstalled, just copied to newer hardware and upgraded | Jan 05 09:13 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: running cruft finds files in /usr and like that the file is for some reason not listed in the package database any more or a file of a package has been deleted. | Jan 05 09:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft - Check the filesystem for cruft (missing and unexplained files) << crufts job. | Jan 05 09:14 |
| amarsh04 | ah ok, thanks | Jan 05 09:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: attempt doing it cruft under Windows you are kinda up the creek due to no proper installation database. | Jan 05 09:15 |
| oiaohm | registery cleaners and system cleaners are basically attempting to wild guess perform cruft. | Jan 05 09:15 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is another tool like cruft for rpm based distrobutions. | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | but really there is no cruft on FC1 | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | I only install stuff I want from source | Jan 05 09:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fedora is rpm and cruft only works with deb. | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | the FC1 repo stopped working ages ago | Jan 05 09:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a different cleaner for rpm based. | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | ugh, ok that's not what I meant :) | Jan 05 09:16 |
| cubexyz | I meant crufty stuff that must be removed that accumulates over time | Jan 05 09:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and taht is what cruft does for debian systems. | Jan 05 09:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct deb based systems. | Jan 05 09:17 |
| msb_ | No way am I gonna have some program delete files that _it_ thinks shouldn't be there. Sometimes I install programs manually because they aren't in the repo. | Jan 05 09:17 |
| oiaohm | msb_: if you manannly install properly you tell cruft with --ignore to leave particular directories alone. | Jan 05 09:18 |
| cubexyz | what is the rpm cleaner called? | Jan 05 09:19 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: So all I have to do is _remember_ all the stuff I've manually installed over the last four years? | Jan 05 09:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: don't you use the same prefix for it all like /usr/local. | Jan 05 09:20 |
| msb_ | Who knows? | Jan 05 09:20 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, no | Jan 05 09:20 |
| cubexyz | there's /opt for one | Jan 05 09:20 |
| cubexyz | probably other ones | Jan 05 09:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: /opt and /usr/local is the only 2 places by FHS where user build packages not in package format should be. | Jan 05 09:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: ok other than own home directory. | Jan 05 09:21 |
| cubexyz | /home/usr/ ? | Jan 05 09:21 |
| cubexyz | ok :) | Jan 05 09:21 |
| oiaohm | cruft does not go through home directories. | Jan 05 09:21 |
| msb_ | My system partition is 40GB of which 32GB is used. That's trivial compared to all the other stuff on my 8TB of disks. | Jan 05 09:22 |
| cubexyz | /var can get big | Jan 05 09:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: cruft is not a log cleaner either. | Jan 05 09:23 |
| cubexyz | I had this idea for operating systems and I'm not sure if any OS actually does it | Jan 05 09:23 |
| cubexyz | ok my idea was have two memory systems, one for OS and one for applications | Jan 05 09:23 |
| oiaohm | /var is not something cruft works on. | Jan 05 09:23 |
| cubexyz | so the OS should _never_ run out of memory, only applications | Jan 05 09:24 |
| amarsh04 | undoing an apt-get build-dep basically depends on you saving the list of package names installed by it then echoing the list to xargs dpkg -P | Jan 05 09:24 |
| oiaohm | Under debian you screw up and incorrectly install a source package into /usr instead of /opt or /usr/local you run cruft and debsums and it will locate all files you have hit. | Jan 05 09:24 |
| cubexyz | you could snapshot your drive(s) just before you install something | Jan 05 09:25 |
| cubexyz | I admit it would be quite a bit of work | Jan 05 09:25 |
| oiaohm | Also debsums will unearth cases of binarys being damaged due to bad ram/drive. | Jan 05 09:26 |
| amarsh04 | I've sometimes thought it would be good to have something that could give you a recipie to install packages from scratch and add customised configuration file settings | Jan 05 09:26 |
| msb_ | Mostly I install stuff into my account, to be sure it won't screw up something "legitimately" installed. | Jan 05 09:26 |
| oiaohm | basically debian has lots of tools to audit the system and locate defects. | Jan 05 09:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: exactly most people use to Linux install in 1 of 3 locations /opt /usr/local or /home | Jan 05 09:27 |
| amarsh04 | that would have the disadvantage that configuration file settings change meaning with different versions of packages, so would depend on having back-up copies of versions of any packages no longer in Debian | Jan 05 09:27 |
| oiaohm | msb_: that if it not from the package manager. | Jan 05 09:28 |
| amarsh04 | cruft has been running for 10 minutes so far on this machine | Jan 05 09:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft is not a fast running program. can take about 12 to 14 hours on a large install. | Jan 05 09:29 |
| amarsh04 | wow | Jan 05 09:29 |
| oiaohm | and most likely you wanted to run it with the -r REPORTFILE option. | Jan 05 09:30 |
| oiaohm | so it does not just report to the console. | Jan 05 09:30 |
| oiaohm | cruft it self does not delete anything automatically just produces a report of what it finds wrong. | Jan 05 09:31 |
| amarsh04 | it would have been good if they put that in the description or at the start of the manual page | Jan 05 09:32 |
| cubexyz | I wrote a df-check thing: | Jan 05 09:32 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/df-check.sh.txt | Jan 05 09:32 |
| amarsh04 | I'm still annoyed that the blkid command doesn't show if you do a man -k uuid | Jan 05 09:32 |
| msb_ | I'm an old hippy hacker (in the good sense). If I want to find something on my system I just use "locate" (actually locgrep). | Jan 05 09:32 |
| amarsh04 | mlocate in use here | Jan 05 09:33 |
| amarsh04 | this installation was initially on a machine with 48 MiB RAM, so things needed to be lightweight (ran twm) | Jan 05 09:35 |
| amarsh04 | but my first unix installation was with 16 MiB RAM | Jan 05 09:35 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: cruft man page is kinda upside down. "CRUFT_DEBUG=1 cruft -r report.txt" is the way I normally run cruft yes anything it finds goes to report.txt and CRUFT_DEBUG=1 makes it tell you want scan its currently running. | Jan 05 09:36 |
| amarsh04 | thanks, I'll try those options oiaohm | Jan 05 09:37 |
| cubexyz | don't package managers have a clean thing built-in? | Jan 05 09:37 |
| cubexyz | there was 'yum clean' | Jan 05 09:38 |
| amarsh04 | yes, but Debian doesn't remove customised configuration files unless purge is specified | Jan 05 09:38 |
| amarsh04 | so if you have to temporarily remove a package, customised settings are retained unless you purge | Jan 05 09:39 |
| amarsh04 | back later, getting dinner | Jan 05 09:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yum clean only purges files that it knows about by the package list. cruft is for fiind miss configrations of some user stuff like opps you deleted /var/mail/user so now you are not getting system reports. And finding files the package manager no longer knows about. | Jan 05 09:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so clean up and basic health check. | Jan 05 09:42 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, the basic idea sounds good | Jan 05 09:59 |
| cubexyz | I wrote a checker for sensitive files | Jan 05 09:59 |
| cubexyz | checks certain files for tampering | Jan 05 10:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the basic idea is the same idea as a registery cleaner or system cleaner under Windows. Difference is cruft is not guessing what should and should not be there due to the package installation system have list of files that should be on the system. | Jan 05 10:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: registery cleaners and system cleaners screw up windows due to lack of information and attempting to guess. | Jan 05 10:04 |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: also I forgot to mention cruft does report some stuff that is harmless. Like pyc precomplier built files. | Jan 05 11:27 |
| amarsh04 | oh, thanks oiaohm | Jan 05 11:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: but it does work as a good location of all files that are not system tracked. | Jan 05 11:28 |
| amarsh04 | 30 megabyte report.txt here | Jan 05 11:29 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: under 5 meg is normal. I would suspect your system has collected some cruft. | Jan 05 11:31 |
| amarsh04 | yes, filtering things out at the moment | Jan 05 11:40 |
| amarsh04 | filtered report file is 1.3 MiB | Jan 05 11:49 |
| schestowitz | [06:51] <cubexyz> no new relevations about Murdock? | Jan 05 11:50 |
| schestowitz | In a sense, yes | Jan 05 11:50 |
| schestowitz | see http://danielpocock.com/ian-murdock-police-brutality | Jan 05 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | The great life of Ian Murdock and police brutality in context | DanielPocock.com | Jan 05 11:50 | |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: basically cruft is not a task need to be run often but for us who have installs that last over 10 years its kinda a good idea to run it. | Jan 05 11:51 |
| schestowitz | I like this article the most (so far) | Jan 05 11:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @00pii favourited 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/rKcefXGZN0' | Jan 05 14:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/1FWgAWR5gP | Jan 05 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtbz | Jan 05 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/tXF9ZfK5Kc | Jan 05 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtc0 | Jan 05 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dP7aJUED71 | Jan 05 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtc1 | Jan 05 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/6cGw1fBMiI | Jan 05 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtc2 | Jan 05 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 05 14:30 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ritabarrachina/status/684389834371248128 | Jan 05 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ritabarrachina: Where are the blog posts? Who deleted his Twitter account? Why he was knocking the door? cc @jonsneyers @littleidea https://t.co/LvQIBwvFvZ | Jan 05 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Murdock’s family asks for privacy during this time." https://t.co/sjykNROOCq but Ian asked for justice after the #police buse | Jan 05 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | "tongue2" | Jan 05 15:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6944775 | Jan 05 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EXCLUSIVE: Most of former NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly's emails deleted before he left #NYPD http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/raymond-kelly-deleted-emails-leaving-nypd-article-1.2482279 #police liars | Jan 05 15:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/odtgd ] | Jan 05 15:07 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/684395445389516801 | Jan 05 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz I cannot view this. :/ | Jan 05 15:27 | |
| schestowitz | Enable javascript | Jan 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6945961 | Jan 05 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "proposal of the European patent Office to forbid all former employees to continue their lives with a job in IP" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-secrets-out-agreed-text-of-eu-trade.html?showComment=1451993043707#c7650599002912646681 #epo | Jan 05 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: The Secret’s Out! Agreed text of the EU Trade Secrets Directive now available [ http://ur1.ca/odtis ] | Jan 05 15:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/plfKliQY8A | Jan 05 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtjd | Jan 05 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 05 15:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/plfKliQY8A' | Jan 05 15:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/684396582641467394 | Jan 05 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz hm, 2nd time works. Thanks | Jan 05 15:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Posts Longer Tribute In Honor Of Its | Jan 05 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Founder https://t.co/2LSP2Lv0NW | Jan 05 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtk3 | Jan 05 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian Posts Longer Tribute In Honor Of Its Founder - Phoronix | Jan 05 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Primary Selection Support Still Being Worked On | Jan 05 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Wayland https://t.co/AhMoTsIrrY | Jan 05 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 15:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkt | Jan 05 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Primary Selection Support Still Being Worked On For Wayland - Phoronix | Jan 05 15:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/292VtX5xvj (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtku | Jan 05 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 - Phoronix | Jan 05 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GCpVwHQa70 (www.linux.com) | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkw | Jan 05 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Linux.com | Jan 05 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released! https://t.co/Evkh4xLsce | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.blacklablinux.org) | Jan 05 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtkx | Jan 05 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org | Black Lab Linux: Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been released! | Jan 05 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 Scorpion, testing | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cA0M0CKZsn (q4os.org) | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtne | Jan 05 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating system | Jan 05 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hand of Fate is a brilliant game, you should | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | really give it a go on Linux & SteamOS | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3wW3CEUaoh (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtnf | Jan 05 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Hand of Fate is a brilliant game, you should really give it a go on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Jan 05 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ogD2WOWJdl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odtng | Jan 05 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Three More Features Proposed For Fedora 24 | Tux Machines | Jan 05 16:08 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684406485753966592 | Jan 05 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: .@bastianbest @schestowitz Plus: It's not a patent on a UI but on dividing image streams from an endoscopic camera. | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684406651789651970 https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684407284848553985 https://twitter.com/weberpatent/status/684407625786765313 | Jan 05 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: @schestowitz I do not fully concur with @bastianbest 's interpretation of that decision. | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: @bastianbest @schestowitz Please also note recent BGH decisions nullifying somewhat similar patents: e.g. Fahrzeugsnavigationsystem | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weberpatent: .@bastianbest @schestowitz IMHO the BGH has developed a very finely tuned case law on the question of "software as such" | Jan 05 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released! https://t.co/fcRAcdLp8k | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu00 | Jan 05 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Enterprise LInux DP3 has been released! | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Announces new Smart TV User Experience | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Tizen Smart Remote Control | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cBbDbySwB2 (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 05 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu01 | Jan 05 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Announces new Smart TV User Experience and Tizen Smart Remote Control - Tizen Experts | Jan 05 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Toast raises $30 million for Android-powered | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | point-of-sale system to challenge Square | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tMK7309jzZ (venturebeat.com) | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2q | Jan 05 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venturebeat.com | Toast raises $30 million for Android-powered point-of-sale system to challenge Square | VentureBeat | Commerce | by Ken Yeung | Jan 05 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alcatel OneTouch Pixi 4 hands-on | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HOYfHeziTu | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2r | Jan 05 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Alcatel OneTouch Pixi 4 hands-on - Android Authority | Jan 05 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/vCy1ScECGH | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 05 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2s | Jan 05 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By Default - Phoronix | Jan 05 17:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This $99 Android box streams PC games to your | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TV with open-source Nvidia Shield tech | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oF3BMECVWi (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WXVF4XUdmr | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.virtual-strategy.com) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | This $99 Android box streams PC games to your TV with open-source Nvidia Shield tech | PCWorld | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2t | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.virtual-strategy.com | EMTEC Unveils GEM (Game * Entertainment * Multimedia) Box at CES 2016 with PC Library and GameFly Streaming | Virtual-Strategy Magazine | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and robustness https://t.co/UACI9wEGOP | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2u | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability and robustness | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OSS Databases vs Oracle https://t.co/9Gyy5Hl5Gh | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2v | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Databases vs Oracle | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/eh63wg2xm6 | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odu2w | Jan 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 05 17:51 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/684440315512631303 | Jan 05 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: @schestowitz There's a range of views about UPC among officials, industry & practitioners. But it is happening so people need to be prepared | Jan 05 18:52 | |
| schestowitz | People, as in not corporations, need to fight back | Jan 05 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/caNC0e4Cv6 | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odudc | Jan 05 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Close Fedora Is To Switching To Wayland By Default | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Voice of the masses: 2015 was the year of Linux | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and open source software. What next? | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/g2an1Yksa8 (www.linuxvoice.com) | Jan 05 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odudd | Jan 05 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/voice-of-the-masses-2015-was-the-year-of-linux-and-open-source-software-what-next/ ) | Jan 05 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora Workstation and the quest for stability | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and robustness https://t.co/FPaEF304VL | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blogs.gnome.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugi | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2016/01/05/fedora-workstation-and-the-quest-for-stability-and-robustness/ ) | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 have been | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released https://t.co/sAP2FNZWKR | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.wine-reviews.net) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugj | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wine-reviews.net | Wine Reviews : PlayOnLinux and PlayOnMac 4.2.10 have been released | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Voice of the masses: 2015 was the year of Linux | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by and open source software. What next? | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @JVVLucien https://t.co/g2an1Yksa8 (www.linuxvoice.com) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugk | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/BaCV61Of93 | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugl | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Hj2h0rwL09 | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugm | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software Releases | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/N3QOhPUQRA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odugp | Jan 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software Releases | Tux Machines | Jan 05 19:35 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jan 05 19:45 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 05 19:45 | |
| *[freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | Jan 05 19:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | Chrome IRC has to be the worst IRC client ever. | Jan 05 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have Chatzilla. | Jan 05 19:48 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure mirc is worse | Jan 05 19:57 |
| MinceR | and comic chat is worse than that | Jan 05 19:57 |
| schestowitz | is that a proprietary one? | Jan 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | comic? | Jan 05 19:58 |
| MinceR | yup | Jan 05 20:00 |
| MinceR | m$'s own | Jan 05 20:00 |
| MinceR | one of their two attempts to ruin irc | Jan 05 20:00 |
| schestowitz | MS IRC would be funny | Jan 05 20:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe some Word document icons | Jan 05 20:19 |
| schestowitz | to send attachments to each other | Jan 05 20:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Desktop GNU/Linux https://t.co/epyssd3bj9 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Internet of Things https://t.co/pLnNeyNus6 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for the Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 45 minutes https://t.co/RVAbDDEaaJ | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 05 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odus2 | Jan 05 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for 45 minutes | Tux Machines | Jan 05 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Internet of Things https://t.co/siGurHhfzi | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.xda-developers.com) | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutd | Jan 05 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Android Wear Revisited: Perfect Companion for the Internet of Things | Jan 05 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 45 minutes https://t.co/5P0y2tZwLx | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutf | Jan 05 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Fixed-wing Parrot Disco drone stays aloft for 45 minutes · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 05 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Alpine Linux-based LiveCD with OpenVZ | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kernel / tools https://t.co/VexOGanwvn | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.montanalinux.org) | Jan 05 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/odutg | Jan 05 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Alpine Linux-based LiveCD with OpenVZ kernel / tools | MontanaLinux.org | Jan 05 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/684492193566871552 | Jan 05 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz There was tremendous silliness in extending IP protection 2 trivial & common ideas: Windows, Clouds... https://t.co/kmFKCNcWNO | Jan 05 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz There was tremendous silliness in extending IP protection 2 trivial & common ideas: Windows, Clouds... https://t.co/kmFKCNcWNO | Jan 05 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show Nvidia | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DriveWorks https://t.co/kHtK0kPVlW | Jan 05 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Nvidia Uses Ubuntu at CES 2016 to Show Nvidia DriveWorks | Jan 05 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Aptoide Lands $4M To Grow Its Alternative | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android App Store In Emerging Markets | Jan 05 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LYx7tsqExI (techcrunch.com) | Jan 05 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Aptoide Lands $4M To Grow Its Alternative Android App Store In Emerging Markets | TechCrunch | Jan 05 22:17 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically is a double side sword. smaller circuit in nm reduced durablity but increased speed. | Jan 06 01:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and reduced nm also reduces power usage. | Jan 06 01:27 |
| cubexyz | I guess the 8086 used the largest nm process | Jan 06 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/nFSeBmZPqZ | Jan 06 01:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:29 | |
| cubexyz | or 8080 even | Jan 06 01:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/nFSeBmZPqZ' | Jan 06 01:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/QDraua1wTl | Jan 06 01:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android, Oracle, Marshmallow, Aptoide | Jan 06 01:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android, Oracle, Marshmallow, Aptoide | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:29 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:29 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:30 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I once thought about building a usable computer with the lowest transistor count | Jan 06 01:30 |
| cubexyz | z80 maybe | Jan 06 01:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: define of usable is the tricky bit. | Jan 06 01:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-TVout-Keyboard/ when you see stuff like this it starts coming clear that the bottom is is going to be warped. | Jan 06 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.instructables.com | Arduino TVout Keyboard [ http://ur1.ca/odvqk ] | Jan 06 01:36 | |
| cubexyz | RCA TV? surely a composite monitor would be good enough | Jan 06 01:38 |
| cubexyz | what do you need the TV for? :) | Jan 06 01:39 |
| cubexyz | anyone still get analog tv broadcast? | Jan 06 01:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: third world countries are still analog tv | Jan 06 01:40 |
| MinceR | depends on which third world countries | Jan 06 01:40 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if motherboards still have PS/2 connectors | Jan 06 01:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/hRuqDWspyD | Jan 06 01:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 06 01:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fcassia favourited 'Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at...' | Jan 06 01:42 | |
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| cubexyz | PS/2 interface has lower latency | Jan 06 02:00 |
| MinceR | how much latency does it have? | Jan 06 02:00 |
| MinceR | though iirc it doesn't matter with keyboards as the controller tends to add delay in the process of debouncing anyway | Jan 06 02:01 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, PS/2 wins over USB here | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | full n-key roll-over | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | interrupt based | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | my mouse does 1ms latency | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | not delayed like USB | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | and my keyboard does NKRO | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | over USB | Jan 06 02:03 |
| MinceR | and they both do hotplug | Jan 06 02:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ps2-vs-usb-keyboard.txt | Jan 06 02:04 |
| MinceR | http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/40375-how-does-nkro-over-usb-work/ | Jan 06 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linustechtips.com | How does NKRO over USB work? - Peripherals - Linus Tech Tips [ http://ur1.ca/odvst ] | Jan 06 02:05 | |
| cubexyz | you want NKRO? | Jan 06 02:08 |
| MinceR | i do, and i have it | Jan 06 02:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, except for hotlug PS/2 keyboard is better :) | Jan 06 02:14 |
| cubexyz | hotplug | Jan 06 02:14 |
| cubexyz | and this keyboard is old and crapped up | Jan 06 02:15 |
| cubexyz | not too happy with my keyboard actually | Jan 06 02:15 |
| MinceR | apparently NKRO mode has to be explicitly turned on on my keyboard (since it won't work with some OSes) but it does work | Jan 06 02:15 |
| MinceR | USB is also better for the ability to replicate ports with hubs | Jan 06 02:16 |
| cubexyz | I really need a keyboard I can clean :-/ | Jan 06 02:17 |
| MinceR | silicone? :> | Jan 06 02:17 |
| MinceR | or perhaps a projection keyboard :> | Jan 06 02:19 |
| cubexyz | do those exist? | Jan 06 02:20 |
| cubexyz | oh wow, $263 | Jan 06 02:21 |
| cubexyz | I don't know about those MinceR | Jan 06 02:22 |
| cubexyz | interesting idea though | Jan 06 02:22 |
| MinceR | not sure if the latter is still available | Jan 06 02:22 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen the former in a shop | Jan 06 02:22 |
| MinceR | but decided not to buy it after seeing that it folds up into an enormous cylinder | Jan 06 02:22 |
| cubexyz | maybe if the price goes down I'll try it | Jan 06 02:23 |
| cubexyz | they're on ebay for $40 | Jan 06 02:23 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/1979-sears-atari-400.jpg | Jan 06 02:40 |
| cubexyz | not so good old keyboard | Jan 06 02:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 06 02:41 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZX80.jpg | Jan 06 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:ZX80.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/odvwq ] | Jan 06 02:41 | |
| cubexyz | they were called Timex Sinclair 1000 over here | Jan 06 02:42 |
| cubexyz | but Atari 400 was first :) | Jan 06 02:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Jan 06 02:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/GCpVwHQa70 (www.linux.com) | Jan 06 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Car Makers Rev Up Automotive Grade Linux at CES | Linux.com | Jan 06 02:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear | Jan 06 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear outdoors | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.2-dev Budgie | Jan 06 02:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.2-dev Budgie | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a | Jan 06 02:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dueling Raspberry Pi drone autopilots ship in | Jan 06 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a stylus | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q1 https://t.co/VJksX0hCx1 | Jan 06 02:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dueling Raspberry Pi drone autopilots ship in Q1 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 02:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android++ For Visual Studio Is Now Open Source | Jan 06 05:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android++ For Visual Studio Is Now Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 06 05:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The January 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS | Jan 06 05:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The January 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Jan 06 05:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2016-01-05 (stable) | Jan 06 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Update 2016-01-05 (stable) | Tux Machines | Jan 06 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 06 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch" and Trinity Desktop 14.0.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 06 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Delayed for January 27, 2016 | Jan 06 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Delayed for January 27, 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 06:03 | |
| oiaohm | Now this has taken like forever. http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta OpenGL Vendor-Neutral Driver infrastructure on Linux | Jan 06 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.16 Beta Driver Now Includes Long-Awaited GLVND - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/odwih ] | Jan 06 06:51 | |
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| cubexyz | yeah q4os might be a bit of a dead end | Jan 06 09:28 |
| cubexyz | I got a huge stack of Linux and BSD discs | Jan 06 09:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #FirefoxOS will Power New #Panasonic UHD TVs | Jan 06 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unveiled at #CES https://t.co/pe0KKT54lv | Jan 06 09:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Firefox OS will Power New Panasonic UHD TVs Unveiled at CES | The Mozilla Blog | Jan 06 09:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 06 09:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear | Jan 06 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Casio's first smartwatch brings Android Wear outdoors | The Verge | Jan 06 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The January 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS | Jan 06 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The January 2016 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Jan 06 09:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/684544679728279552 | Jan 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz It was an interesting and slightly worrying report, for once. | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/684603713416216576 | Jan 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz for my app project we use both Azure and AWS; the heavy-duty part will be on AWS but we do like Azure as well for some purposes | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| schestowitz | MS Bot https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/684582179574251521 | Jan 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Google rolls over on Android Java, puts Oracle in driver's seat & potentially giving MS a boost. @schestowitz @zdnet https://t.co/fg4X6zfBvy | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Android Wars 2016: Google surrenders to Oracle as Microsoft allies with Cyanogen | ZDNet | Jan 06 10:02 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not really Google going openjdk solves the legal issue. Oracle case in the copyright related. Google developer has used a automated tool to take a java runtime dll and produce source code. | Jan 06 10:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: opps jar not dll. | Jan 06 10:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so section of android code base was highly questionable. | Jan 06 10:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Huawei made a 10-inch Android tablet with a | Jan 06 10:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Update 2016-01-05 (stable) | Jan 06 10:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 06 10:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 06 10:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Rokos Core OS Turns Your Raspberry Pi Into | Jan 06 10:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Closes December on Up Note | Jan 06 10:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Firefox OS will Power New Panasonic UHD TVs | Jan 06 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Unveiled at CES https://t.co/ISo78IjTfc | Jan 06 10:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Rokos Core OS Turns Your Raspberry Pi Into | Jan 06 10:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) | Jan 06 10:19 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/684688181942431744 | Jan 06 10:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Raspbian Cross Compiler Toolchains | Jan 06 11:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Rokos Core OS Turns Your Raspberry Pi Into | Jan 06 11:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Scarlett_OKCash favourited 'The Rokos Core OS Turns Your Raspberry Pi...' | Jan 06 11:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android is ousting Windows from its last mobile | Jan 06 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bastion https://t.co/C7Pz9ZPipD | Jan 06 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Android is ousting Windows from its last mobile bastion | InfoWorld | Jan 06 11:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Delayed...' | Jan 06 11:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0...' | Jan 06 11:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Delayed...' | Jan 06 11:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) https://t.co/2DLN3Z9Qww' | Jan 06 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PHP 7 and Linux Kernel 4.4 RC8 Are Now Available in Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) | Jan 06 11:25 | |
| oiaohm | cubelog: found a list of cpus in space http://www.cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html Turns out there is a 486 in space. | Jan 06 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cpushack.com | CPU History - Computers and CPUs in Space [ http://ur1.ca/odx8c ] | Jan 06 12:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Q4OS 2.0.2 "Scorpion" Is Based on Debian 9.0...' | Jan 06 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Jan 06 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L3ferPjL7J (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 06 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UK spies publish NoSQL database system as open | Jan 06 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source https://t.co/ueYg0wu5Iu | Jan 06 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK spies publish NoSQL database system as open source | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenSSL’s teachable moment: Secure Shell key | Jan 06 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | management in light of open source | Jan 06 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | vulnerabilities https://t.co/HMNL3QN6yr | Jan 06 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSSL’s teachable moment: Secure Shell key management in light of open source vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and | Jan 06 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08.3 https://t.co/ascZA0jeJp | Jan 06 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sylvia Sanchez: How do you Fedora | Jan 06 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v6tLqREMmy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 06 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sylvia Sanchez: How do you Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 06 13:18 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 06 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/684736154504134656 | Jan 06 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant @schestowitz https://t.co/Xwzn7ASQrw | Jan 06 18:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> robindoherty.com | Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant | Jan 06 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sunmd7/status/684745728388890624 | Jan 06 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sunmd7: @Cargill @DrZuhdiJasser @schestowitz there is no reason to give anyone time off to pray - that is selective appeasement. Let themprayoffwork | Jan 06 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AIFDemocracy/status/684751439944630272 | Jan 06 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AIFDemocracy: .@Cargill please read our take on the #Cargill prayer controversy. CAIR doesn't represent all Muslims: @schestowitz https://t.co/EciN8Y7Kmo | Jan 06 18:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bikedb06/status/684753710811975680 | Jan 06 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bikedb06: @sunmd7 @Cargill @DrZuhdiJasser @schestowitz Totally agree. What's next??Accept and respect our laws, or go home to the country were it isOK | Jan 06 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edcbm/status/684756291122819073 | Jan 06 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edcbm: @AIFDemocracy @Cargill @schestowitz Where is MSM ie @washingtonpost @NBCPolitics @ABC @chucktodd @GStephanopoulos reporting on this? | Jan 06 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/QuiBirdie/status/684757652392554496 | Jan 06 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QuiBirdie: @Cargill @schestowitz Are those prayer breaks allowed for ALL religions? | Jan 06 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | I may require my second lunch break to have some pasta as I'm in the Flying Spaghetti monster church ;-) | Jan 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/684763895752474624 | Jan 06 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: MS admits Windows 10 (Orwell) is watching you: "Massive Windows 10 Success Has Six Nasty Surprises." @schestowitz https://t.co/WKyGo9gFtC | Jan 06 18:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Forbes Welcome | Jan 06 18:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #NewBalance is making an Android Wear | Jan 06 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatch, and Intel is putting chips in its | Jan 06 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | shoes https://t.co/jd6CRNTC2L | Jan 06 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jan 06 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | New Balance is making an Android Wear smartwatch, and Intel is putting chips in its shoes | The Verge | Jan 06 18:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Jan 06 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m1fciQh5uT (www.ubergizmo.com) | Jan 06 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com | Haier Launches New 9.7-inch Android Tablet | Ubergizmo | Jan 06 18:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and | Jan 06 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 15.08.3 https://t.co/GtVphQ5Rb8 | Jan 06 18:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3 | Jan 06 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sylvia Sanchez: How do you Fedora | Jan 06 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2fH5tGCNIm (fedoramagazine.org) | Jan 06 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/sylvia-sanchez-fedora/ ) | Jan 06 18:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6947535 | Jan 06 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Jan 06 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/684803238089064448 | Jan 06 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @Cargill I am Catholic but work on Sundays and religious holidays if my shift so requires. And don't whine about it. | Jan 06 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6947535 | Jan 06 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Oklahoma Is Now the Earthquake Capital of the US http://commondreams.org/news/2016/01/05/oklahoma-now-earthquake-capital-america "over the risks of oil and gas operations like hydraulic fracturing" | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> commondreams.org | Oklahoma Is Now the Earthquake Capital of America | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6947456 | Jan 06 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold http://original.antiwar.com/brad_hoff/2016/01/05/new-hillary-emails-reveal-propaganda-executions-coveting-libyan-oil-and-gold/ #clinton #libya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> original.antiwar.com | New Hillary Emails Reveal Propaganda, Executions, Coveting Libyan Oil and Gold - Antiwar.com Original by -- Antiwar.com [ http://ur1.ca/odyki ] | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/nf3y2 ] | Jan 06 18:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 15.10 Gets Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3...' | Jan 06 19:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ZTE launches two inexpensive Android phones at | Jan 06 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CES 2016 https://t.co/wmGPK0Dw23 | Jan 06 19:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | ZTE launches two inexpensive Android phones at CES 2016 | The Verge | Jan 06 19:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TeX Live security improvements | Jan 06 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wU0JpQsIz6 (twitter.com) | Jan 06 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DivineNoodles: @schestowitz @QuiBirdie @Cargill I think 'second breakfast' is a very holy tradition that should be respected. R'amen. #FSM | Jan 06 19:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'TeX Live security improvements https://t.co/wU0JpQsIz6' | Jan 06 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TeXLive security improvements | Jan 06 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SCJEsLRZog (www.preining.info) | Jan 06 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | TeX Live security improvements | | Jan 06 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Balance announces Android Wear smartwatch | Jan 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for running smartphone-free | Jan 06 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bWVcNZCGOC (mashable.com) | Jan 06 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | New Balance announces Android Wear smartwatch for running smartphone-free | Jan 06 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android needs a bit of growing up for | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | productivity https://t.co/oNO8RDhacv | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) peripheral shortage an | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | issue | Jan 06 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android needs a bit of growing up for productivity - SlashGear | Jan 06 19:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Set Top Box Lets You Stream and Record | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | via HDMI Input https://t.co/aJ6ptYfuwC | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (hackaday.com) | Jan 06 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | Android Set Top Box Lets You Stream and Record via HDMI Input | Hackaday | Jan 06 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia's Shield Android TV gets a little more | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | customizable with Marshmallow upgrade | Jan 06 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dsiXk5QP3f (www.theverge.com) | Jan 06 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Nvidia's Shield Android TV gets a little more customizable with Marshmallow upgrade | The Verge | Jan 06 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The excellent Remix OS is bringing Android to | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | every old x86 PC (and Mac) for free | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G9hrwyQ87K (thenextweb.com) | Jan 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | The excellent Remix OS is bringing Android to every old x86 PC (and Mac) | Jan 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio launches Android Wear smartwatch that | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | lasts a month per charge | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3dr4UNQ4Hi (www.theguardian.com) | Jan 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Casio launches Android Wear smartwatch that lasts a month per charge | Technology | The Guardian | Jan 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 23 on Tegra K1 Chromebook | Jan 06 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DjtcRNl0kh (kushaldas.in) | Jan 06 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Fedora 23 on Tegra K1 Chromebook | Jan 06 19:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Announces New Chromecast Audio And | Jan 06 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android TV Hardware Partners | Jan 06 19:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HzXJcup9Ea (techcrunch.com) | Jan 06 19:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Google Announces New Chromecast Audio And Android TV Hardware Partners | TechCrunch | Jan 06 19:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on | Jan 06 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eKaw7crM4R (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 06 19:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on board with Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jan 06 19:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on | Jan 06 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStreetMap https://t.co/L6fr69yeFC | Jan 06 19:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap | Tux Machines | Jan 06 19:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New | Jan 06 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TV https://t.co/6sq1dXdMAv | Jan 06 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New Panasonic UHD TV | Tux Machines | Jan 06 20:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs...' | Jan 06 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/co_lennon/status/684832196570537984 | Jan 06 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@co_lennon: that is very good for Cruz if the White House questions his citizenship. Only helps h https://t.co/pO34CPQHWo https://t.co/Fh4jxR323Y | Jan 06 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more | Jan 06 20:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New ‘Jihadi John?’ ISIS Video Features English-Speaker https://t.co/aMDwnkpwEK stop with the glorifying nicknames... doesn't help. | Jan 06 20:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New...' | Jan 06 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible | Jan 06 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BattlEye support to come too | Jan 06 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sozXmzslPD (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 06 20:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible BattlEye support to come too | GamingOnLinux | Jan 06 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Natural Selection 2 has a major update, the | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux experience is quite terrible | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6CmtpsNxob (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Natural Selection 2 has a major update, the Linux experience is quite terrible | GamingOnLinux | Jan 06 20:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arma 3 Linux port update in testing, possible | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BattlEye support to come too | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NKigRHxivJ (www.gizmag.com) | Jan 06 20:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmag.com | Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, and Subaru get on board with Linux Foundation | Jan 06 20:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm....All the news is talking about are the conservatives flipping their shit that there will be some new gun control. | Jan 06 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on | Jan 06 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStreetMap https://t.co/pbYqkE7JnN | Jan 06 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs on OpenStreetMap | Jan 06 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 06 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New Panasonic UHD TV | Jan 06 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ' | Jan 06 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CES 2016: Firefox OS Still Alive, Powering New | Jan 06 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Panasonic UHD TV https://t.co/jsflybqLRJ | Jan 06 20:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Just as an executive order, but the effects will be the most significant since at least 1993. | Jan 06 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's a pretty reasonable list, so of course they're all flocking to the gun stores to hoard ammunition. Say goodbye to .22 long rifle ammo for a while so people can stock up for Red Dawn. LOL | Jan 06 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684837739808862209 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684838212985057281 | Jan 06 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz they are missing A LOT | Jan 06 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz and wtf is this e10s mentioned earlier in the buglist thread? | Jan 06 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684838589214126080 | Jan 06 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz in about:preferences#advanced I always disable "health report" so I guess Mozzarella Foundation doesn't get my "telemetry" | Jan 06 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | spyware in Mozilla | Jan 06 20:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/earl_malmrose/status/684841822728814592 | Jan 06 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@earl_malmrose: @schestowitz Apple competes quite well. But they're so egotistical that they think all competition is unworthy of them. | Jan 06 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/684842027981352960 | Jan 06 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz if Moz wants to check how many people use extensions why not look at the server logs on https://t.co/5oMokMrGCI for downloads?? | Jan 06 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> addons.mozilla.org | Add-ons for Firefox | Jan 06 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | Won't count uninstalled ones | Jan 06 21:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines System 76 Oryx Pro review: A laptop for your | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desk https://t.co/rWnbmTX0Ma (www.cio.com) | Jan 06 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | System 76 Oryx Pro review: A laptop for your desk | CIO | Jan 06 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "fully-supported commercial version of its | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Networking Operating System (ONOS)." | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nt40ow7oOX (www.telecomasia.net) | Jan 06 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telecomasia.net | Ciena, ON.Lab collaborate on Open Source OS | Telecom Asia | Jan 06 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon Makes EC2 Cloud Hosting Cheaper, | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Especially for Linux https://t.co/mQq6paEmsu | Jan 06 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thevarguy.com) | Jan 06 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Amazon Makes EC2 Cloud Hosting Cheaper, Especially for Linux | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jan 06 21:38 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6948379 | Jan 06 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox "analysis of users and estimated that approximately 40% do not have any addons installed at all." https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229949#c8 #mozilla | Jan 06 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | "And those are only people that didn’t disable the Mozilla’s spy, meaning the percentage is much lower than that." | Jan 06 21:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The release of #plasma 5.6 foreseen (March) | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4PyOyGn7Ku (linux.softpedia.com) | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | also: https://t.co/iLMnJ5mUbo | Jan 06 22:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016 Technology of the Year Finalist: Android | Jan 06 22:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Chrome browser, you just put in the right URL | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and credentials and after a few seconds the | Jan 06 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME desktop appears." https://t.co/HlpmYWzkob | Jan 06 22:14 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Maps Will Allow Users to Add POIs...' | Jan 06 22:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lots of Samba Vulnerabilities Closed in All | Jan 06 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supported Ubuntu OSes | Jan 06 22:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lots of Samba Vulnerabilities Closed in All Supported...' | Jan 06 22:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The birth of Debian, in the words of Ian | Jan 06 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Murdock himself https://t.co/XauvL7nQE5 | Jan 06 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel, Qualcomm stake claims in Linux drones | Jan 06 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines High schooler awarded Linux Foundation | Jan 06 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Elementary OS' Freya Dumbs Down Linux | Jan 06 22:55 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'The birth of Debian, in the words of...' | Jan 06 22:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/684866806020968452 | Jan 06 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: another extractive catastrophe - @EBRd partly to blame: "We invest in changing lives" - for the worse, it seems https://t.co/R0vOJgNgaS | Jan 06 22:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tensions flare over environmental threat of gold mine in #Kyrgyzstan https://t.co/cuttOi7s7k "on the border with China" on #censorship too | Jan 06 22:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'High schooler awarded Linux Foundation scholarship https://t.co/qJmPnkJu1G' | Jan 06 23:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | High schooler awarded Linux Foundation scholarship - SD Times | Jan 06 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 Upgrade Path Is Now Open for | Jan 06 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | All Editions, Including Xfce and KDE | Jan 06 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Mint 17.3 Upgrade Path Is Now Open for All Editions, Including Xfce and KDE | Jan 06 23:01 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Mint 17.3 Upgrade Path Is Now Open...' | Jan 06 23:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/redlocal/status/684871952931094528 https://twitter.com/DubDelivery/status/684872149652377600 | Jan 06 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@redlocal: #ElementaryOS Freya Dumbs Down #Linux https://t.co/Sz4lME2TqA #gnu https://t.co/F08cjKoFmT | Jan 06 23:40 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ElementaryOS Freya Dumbs Down #Linux https://t.co/UPOiJxTxWr #gnu | Jan 06 23:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DubDelivery: DubMediaMash https://t.co/DymmUHgtwz - top stories by @schestowitz | Jan 06 23:40 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 06 23:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, as promised here is my provisional archive list | Jan 06 23:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/optical-archive-list-jan-06-2016.txt | Jan 06 23:45 |
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| sebsebseb | cubexyz: hi just found out about a new wm/de looks interesting from screenshots | Jan 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | provisional since there's discs I haven't checked yet | Jan 06 23:45 |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb, what's that? | Jan 06 23:46 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I just treid to install into Ubuntu as well, but then reolise that well yeah not on latests, I thought I Had upgraded this install already this re install, but I guess not then | Jan 06 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: there's some kind of OS with it to the wm/de | Jan 06 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Budgie, maybe? | Jan 06 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | (SolusOS) | Jan 06 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: yep that | Jan 06 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: https://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/installing-the-solus-budgie-desktop-on-ubuntu/ | Jan 06 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xpressubuntu.wordpress.com | Installing the Solus budgie-desktop on Ubuntu | xpress-ubuntu | Jan 06 23:48 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: heh I felt a bit like running well trying to run random commands that were on some guys blog, but they seem ok, not malcious | Jan 06 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | errored in 15.04 I thought I had already upgrgraded this re intsall to 15.10, but nope | Jan 06 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: have you used Budige / SolusOS ? | Jan 06 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nope, it doesn't look interesting to me. | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | it looks basic | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | like XFCE or something but more to it htan just that | Jan 06 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | exactly | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | what to being basic? | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: well it's fun to try out new wm's/de's :d | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | it uses things like Mutter on the background, GNOME stuff | Jan 06 23:50 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: So I'm staying put on MATE (and making Cinnamon possible on openSUSE as an alternative) | Jan 06 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | uh yur running openSUSE | Jan 06 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | I never liked Cinnamon much, I do like Mate though | Jan 06 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | of course I like Mate, I liekd GNOME 2 a lot before :) | Jan 06 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yep, and MATE doesn't seem that basic. | Jan 06 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: What do you think about Pantheon? | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | Phantheon that's a wm/de not used that if so | Jan 06 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | (Elementary OS) | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | Mate is great, it's just GNOEM 2 living on, that's my prefered DE atter GNOME 3 | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | GNOME 3 being my favourite | Jan 06 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | and Unity isn't that bad actsaully | Jan 06 23:54 |
| cubexyz | what you do actually use for work? | Jan 06 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | decided to try it out again the other month on a computer again, well mostly, and well getting bored of that again now | Jan 06 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: As an openSUSE guy (a non-Ubuntu) guy I can say with proper knowledge that Unity is bad. | Jan 06 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: pretty much any de/wm will be fine for me to use for what I use a computer for :) | Jan 06 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | Unity uses so much Ubuntu-specific stuff including Gtk patches that it sickens | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I am not an Ubuntu guy either really, used to be someone who helepd out in #ubuntu a lot, but then moved on to other stuff, got invovled with Mageia | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | reallly I am a Magiea guy, but I don't actsaullhy hae that installed on here at the moment since...... | Jan 06 23:55 |
| cubexyz | Ubuntu isn't even on the radar for me | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | altough I have become someone who likes UBuntu PHone quite a bit last year | Jan 06 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Come to openSUSE side, we have cookies^W OBS | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | and I actsaully found the lost BQ phone on Tuesday that was good :) | Jan 06 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | I lost my phone back in July | Jan 06 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | (I hope Disney won't sue me) | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | I thought it had happended on the house drive etc | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | after travelling | Jan 06 23:56 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but no turns out it was some where, just very hidden away there | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | I was doing some cleaning etc and well, oh what's that? | Jan 06 23:56 |
| cubexyz | Lucas was already rich, why did he sell out? | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | oh it's a phone hmm oh, not some old phone Nokia or whatevr right, nope it was the bq :) | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: nah openSUSE is linekd to Micrsooft in some way or the other | Jan 06 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: as MinceR and schestowitz and so on would all say as well | Jan 06 23:57 |
| cubexyz | no KDE 3.5.10 adherents? :) | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: and it's never appealed to me as a distro, I remember trying Yast out before hwen I used SYnaptic a lot in Ubuntu, and being like uh, it didn't work etc | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | we have a nice control centre in Mageia and such anyway so :) | Jan 06 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I might try and install TRinity into this Ubuntu install actsaully once it's upgraded to 15.10 as well | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | there's no KDE 4 installed really at the moment to, well except for what say konversion needs | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | I remember there being some issues with Kubuntu in both 15.04 and 15.10 not quite working right hmm | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | but eh to that, I would run that in Mageia on occasion for example once installed | Jan 06 23:58 |
| MinceR | *suse is also linked to lendows | Jan 06 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: lendows ??? windows? | Jan 06 23:59 |
| MinceR | cancerd & co | Jan 06 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: He means systemd | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | oh systemd | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | well Mageia usees that, FEdora I think to, etc etc | Jan 06 23:59 |
| MinceR | if it's toxic crap, *suse loves it | Jan 06 23:59 |
| cubexyz | I only use cruelty-free, systemd-free, microsoft-free OSes :) | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: heh your bound to get trolled for likeing SUSE here, oh right yeah I think I seen that before a few times ?:d | Jan 06 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah SUSE is linked to Microsoft so hmm | Jan 07 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nah, I usually keep out of discussions I don't have a real argument in. | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | I been foucssing on uhmm other things in my life for months | Jan 07 00:00 |
| MinceR | well, at least making a patent deal with m$ that enables FUD against GNU/Linux is not "trolling" | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | partly why this lap top still isnt' qutie set up how I want ti | Jan 07 00:00 |
| MinceR | that's great | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | it | Jan 07 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah I need to get Mageia 5 on here really :) | Jan 07 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | Like that Microsoft-loving flag is now being given from SUSE to Red Hat | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | and how I wanted to re install WIndodws 10 to | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | no installation media and uh | Jan 07 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | and Novell is pretty dead now | Jan 07 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | I guess the restore option will only re set WIndows mainly, not remove Ubuntu or whatever else is on here to, but can't really know for sure, untill I try | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | another reason why I haven't set things up | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | with more than one distro yet as well | Jan 07 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | Microsoft-linked Attachmate Group got selled to Micro Focus | Jan 07 00:02 |
| *sebsebseb thinks his WIndwos 10 install might hae some malware in it | Jan 07 00:02 | |
| sebsebseb | since trying some program that wasn't really the best to try beffore | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | since it was ike getting a random program from the net it turns out | Jan 07 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | which isn't particuarly clever really when running WIndows! | Jan 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/key-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png | Jan 07 00:03 |
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| cubexyz | aww, did I do that again :-/ | Jan 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png | Jan 07 00:03 |
| cubexyz | learn to type | Jan 07 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Micro Focus, as far as I know, is not owned by Microsoft. | Jan 07 00:04 |
| cubexyz | no worriessss :) | Jan 07 00:04 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see an apology from the *suse people for helping m$ against their own users | Jan 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/684857095863300096 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/684857359122984960 | Jan 07 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Chrome browser, you just put in the right URL and credentials and after a few seconds the #GNOME desktop appears." https://t.co/5CQoYcIGaf | Jan 07 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> davelargo.blogspot.com | Dave Richards - City of Largo Work Blog: More NX & Chrome Books | Jan 07 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #IPv6 non-alternatives: DJB's article, 13 years later https://t.co/ZkqDNO3XZn | Jan 07 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson | Jan 07 00:05 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: SUSE has a big past with Micrsooft | Jan 07 00:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Cargill/status/684887259481440256 | Jan 07 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Yes, it has. | Jan 07 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cargill: @QuiBirdie @schestowitz Yes, all employees at our plant can ask for prayer breaks and the prayer room is open to all faiths. | Jan 07 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | Incentive to claims of being religious. I wonder where an atheist like me stands. I can call Playstation my religion. ;-) | Jan 07 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: And now it got somewhat dumped by Microsoft, and nobody cares anymore. | Jan 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/QuiBirdie/status/684887948341411842 | Jan 07 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@QuiBirdie: @Cargill @schestowitz Right on! That's awesome! 😀 | Jan 07 00:08 | |
| sebsebseb | 2016 should be a interesitngg year for Desktop Linux | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | certain distro's going Wayland or Mir probably | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | some een with btfs by default I guess | Jan 07 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | btrfs? | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | yes btrfs | Jan 07 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly FEdora a recent future not yet to be relasesd version wil probably go Wayland yep | Jan 07 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | full Wayland | Jan 07 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | and I read that it's already used for the log in screen apparnatly | Jan 07 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I don't believe in Wayland in 2016. | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | I don't follow Fedora | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | maximum as "oh look, it's Wayland and it can run GNOME!" | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: why's that? | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | KDE can also run with Wayland I think? | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: XWayland is terrible. | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | and there's like compatiablhy thing for other stuff | Jan 07 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | totally terrible | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I haen't used it, how's it so terrible? | Jan 07 00:12 |
| MinceR | i hope wayland won't get stuck at the level the lendows people want it to be at | Jan 07 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which is? | Jan 07 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Just try it. | Jan 07 00:13 |
| MinceR | cancerd only, no pointer grab, no pointer warp, no screenshots, no server-side decorations | Jan 07 00:13 |
| MinceR | no modularity, no options | Jan 07 00:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, this is what I use: fc1, openbsd 4.7, vector linux classic, q4os, CrOS | Jan 07 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think Canonical will probably switch Ubuntu Desktop over to Mir and Unity 8 with Ubuntu 16.10 or to start to switch it over properly, if not a complete switch | Jan 07 00:13 |
| cubexyz | not counting the old stuff | Jan 07 00:13 |
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| cubexyz | actually I'm seeing quite a lot of windows 10 references in the logs | Jan 07 07:06 |
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| msb_ | Police in Cologne, Germany have identified a few of the muslims involved in the dozens of attacks on women, including an actual rape, on New Years Eve: https://www.rt.com/news/328118-cologne-police-assaults-unprepared/ | Jan 07 08:50 |
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| schestowitz | more than dozens, I heard. | Jan 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Based on what the chief of police said (not that I trust police version of stories), about a thousand men created a corridor | Jan 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz | and one woman got gropes like 100 times | Jan 07 08:53 |
| schestowitz | one lost her knickers in the process | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | one raped, literally | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | even women with their husbands and children present | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | msb_: read http://www.examiner.com/article/germany-mayor-blames-victims-for-sex-attack-by-1-000-muslims-media-censorship | Jan 07 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.examiner.com | German mayor blames victims for sex attacks by 1,000 Muslims: Media coverup | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/oe14h ] | Jan 07 08:54 | |
| schestowitz | this is similar/closest to what I heard of the story | Jan 07 08:54 |
| schestowitz | and their was allegedly a similar incident in another place (maybe train station) in Germany | Jan 07 08:55 |
| schestowitz | might be some new kind of way to scare the local population, using sexual violent directed at women | Jan 07 08:55 |
| msb_ | Yes, I've also seen such reports from Scandinavian countries. | Jan 07 08:59 |
| msb_ | They could be doing it to scare and dominate the population, but the article says, "Under sharia law, it's OK to rape any non-Muslim woman because they are "infidels."" | Jan 07 09:03 |
| schestowitz | is this true? | Jan 07 09:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's true about Sharia | Jan 07 09:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe something in Koran helps justify it in retrospect, but I think it's false to attribute this to Sharia, or else I'd have heard something about it | Jan 07 09:05 |
| msb_ | Unless the media are censoring what they tell us about Islam, out of "political correctness". | Jan 07 09:06 |
| msb_ | Many moslems certainly feel it's OK to _murder_ women who have sex outside of marriage. That's called "honor killing", and it's been going on for many years. | Jan 07 09:08 |
| msb_ | Some of them cut women's/girl's clitorises off, so they will be faithful in marriage. | Jan 07 09:10 |
| msb_ | Forcing women to wear black burkhas covering their entire head and body in the hot desert sun, and not allowing them to drive cars or go to university, is done throughout some entire Moslem nations, like Saudi Arabia, | Jan 07 09:12 |
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| msb_ | If one man showed up believing that he had to bow down and worship a nonexistent "god" six times a day, and believing that everyone should do it, and had the aforementioned ideas about women, he would be diagnosed as a dangerous schizophrenic psychopath, and would be locked up where he couldn't hurt anyone, But if billions of people have these delusions and compulsions, it's called "a religion" and considered beyond criticism. | Jan 07 09:18 |
| cubexyz | not just Africa either | Jan 07 09:21 |
| cubexyz | FGM occurred in Europe and the United States in the 19th century | Jan 07 09:21 |
| cubexyz | read up on Isaac Baker Brown | Jan 07 09:22 |
| cubexyz | maybe in 2100 people will look back to now and talk about how crappy it was | Jan 07 09:24 |
| msb_ | There was a documentary on recently about a group of people (Yezidis?) who were overrun by ISIL and enslaved. All were ordered to become Sunni moslems or be killed. The women were sold to various men and forced to marry them (sex outside of marriage being illegal in Islam). The men then raped them until they got tired of them, divorced them, and sold them to another man, This was repeated 50 times for some women. | Jan 07 09:25 |
| cubexyz | yes, I think I saw that on Frontline | Jan 07 09:26 |
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| msb_ | Isaac Baker Brown was a prominent 19th-century English gynaecologist and obstetrical surgeon. He was a specialist in the diseases of women and advocated certain surgical procedures, including clitoridectomies, as cures for epilepsy and hysteria. Wikipedia | Jan 07 09:27 |
| cubexyz | yes, Yezidis were persecuted by Sunni Muslims | Jan 07 09:29 |
| cubexyz | so ISIS tries to "purify" Iraq of non-Islamic influences like Yezidis | Jan 07 09:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/685025270651338752 | Jan 07 09:31 |
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| cubexyz | this just shows the influence of microsoft, I'm sorry to say | Jan 07 09:33 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft is able to cram windows 10 onto a lot of computers, even though people don't even like it | Jan 07 09:34 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Jan 07 09:35 |
| cubexyz | I'd go as far to say that most people don't have good understanding of their operating system choices | Jan 07 09:36 |
| cubexyz | in the 70s and 80s it was a lot different | Jan 07 09:37 |
| cubexyz | one could encounter several different OSes in a short period of time | Jan 07 09:37 |
| cubexyz | the absolute worse was when I learned about blogs about "how to get people off windows 7/8" | Jan 07 09:40 |
| cubexyz | meanging getting them on windows 10 | Jan 07 09:40 |
| msb_ | I think most people with computers don't even know they _have_ an operating system | Jan 07 09:41 |
| msb_ | They buy a computer, and operate it by rote procedures without knowing anything about the actual internal results of their actions. | Jan 07 09:43 |
| msb_ | People have been programmed not to think or question (in religion and schools), so they go through life not knowing WTF they're doing. | Jan 07 09:45 |
| msb_ | Instead of thinking and knowledge they have habits and "opinions". | Jan 07 09:46 |
| cubexyz | well rote learning isn't all bad, you have to start somewhere | Jan 07 09:46 |
| cubexyz | but definitely as an adult you should be using conceptual learning | Jan 07 09:47 |
| cubexyz | I mean, I think rote learning of windows is definitely bad | Jan 07 09:48 |
| cubexyz | somehow over the years learning computers has morphed into learning windows | Jan 07 09:48 |
| msb_ | I disagree. If children don't learn about concepts and some critical thinking, by the time they're adults it's much too late. | Jan 07 09:48 |
| cubexyz | not sure what schools are doing these days | Jan 07 09:51 |
| cubexyz | I sure didn't think it was too good in high school :) | Jan 07 09:51 |
| msb_ | I had 3 or 4 good teachers in my 12 years of public school. The rest were robots who hated kids. I had a science teacher who let me play with an electrical experiment kit. He had a phase-contrast microscope and showed us an amoeba in it -- amazing! He was he best. | Jan 07 09:56 |
| cubexyz | I know U of Waterloo does a fair bit of Android development | Jan 07 09:56 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I had phase contrast microscopes in high school | Jan 07 09:57 |
| msb_ | It was just that one teacher who had one. I don't think he let anybody use it. | Jan 07 10:00 |
| cubexyz | there's a native american (I think, I must check this more) that uses base 8 for counting | Jan 07 10:04 |
| cubexyz | they count the spaces between their fingers :) | Jan 07 10:04 |
| cubexyz | Yuki language and Pamean languages | Jan 07 10:05 |
| msb_ | Looks like they cost $3-4,000 https://www.microscopeworld.com/c-426-phase-contrast-microscopes.aspx | Jan 07 10:05 |
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| cubexyz | ok, no wonder he didn't let anyone touch it then | Jan 07 10:05 |
| msb_ | Let the objective hit the cover-slip and you're out the price of a good used car. | Jan 07 10:08 |
| cubexyz | can't they build one that's a bit safer? | Jan 07 10:09 |
| msb_ | The objective lens is where the magic happens. It has lots of precision components. | Jan 07 10:09 |
| msb_ | Just google. I mostly remember that amoeba! | Jan 07 10:10 |
| msb_ | You can make a dark-field microscope by just putting a disk of black paper (on a slide) underneath the condenser. Not as good as phase contrast, but you can see tiny particles, organelles in paramecia and amoebas, etc. Works on any cheap microscope. | Jan 07 10:14 |
| msb_ | Some alternative-medicine doctors find all sorts of things in patients' blood using dark-field. | Jan 07 10:18 |
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| cubexyz | like what? | Jan 07 10:18 |
| msb_ | Tiny bacteria, too small to see in bright-field. | Jan 07 10:19 |
| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjan01/dwphase.html There is formal documentation to take a normal Microscope and make it Phase Contrast. | Jan 07 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopy-uk.org.uk | Making a condenser annular ring for a phase contrast objective | Jan 07 10:19 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: really for how lack of complexity phase contrast is I have never under stood how Microscope makers get away with changing such super high prices for it. | Jan 07 10:20 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: That article explains how to make a condenser for a phase-contrast microscope, but you still need the objective, which is what costs. | Jan 07 10:22 |
| schestowitz | ' Since the question I posed yesterday seems to have got lost in the ether, I will ask again. Is there any mention of the London Agreement in the new law removing the requirement for translations of granted EP patents? " | Jan 07 10:22 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/new-year-new-patents-act-for-spain.html?showComment=1452156342831#c128131496451923378 | Jan 07 10:22 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.micromagus.net/microscopes/diyphase.html Really not you are just going back to the 1963 documentaiton on how todo phase-contrast. A lot of cheaper microscopes contain the right tech for objective just lack the plates. | Jan 07 10:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ACROPOLITESSE/status/685045385174380544 | Jan 07 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ACROPOLITESSE: Cologne le déni de réalité https://t.co/Mr4eZSfgk7 | Jan 07 10:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A lot of people wilfully in denial about what happened in #germany this week https://t.co/XR4gFg4wuF | Jan 07 10:32 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: the price bull crap is the fact that a Microscope with all the parts to do phase-contrast just lacking the plates is can be 1/4 the price of a Microscope that has phase-contrast plates. Not that making the plates is a complex process. | Jan 07 10:33 |
| msb_ | I'm pretty sure the amoeba guts that I saw were in color. | Jan 07 10:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artjul09/fs-phase.html Not really in color replecatable using software to map the close to black and white color over a broader range. | Jan 07 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microscopy-uk.org.uk | Zernike’s colour phase-contrast. [ http://ur1.ca/oe1cb ] | Jan 07 10:39 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: Yes some of the cheaper microscopes contain phase-shift to color parts but no phase-contrast rings. | Jan 07 10:41 |
| oiaohm | msb_: basically there is color and greyscale like phase-contrast microscopes. Just like phase-shift to color and without. Phase-shift to color without phase-contrast is just a form of filter. | Jan 07 10:44 |
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| msb_ | oiaohm: The photos in that last article are more like it! I've bookmarked these pages and will read up on it. | Jan 07 10:46 |
| oiaohm | msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brightfield_phase_contrast_cell_image.jpg This is a black and white compare. | Jan 07 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | msb_: most people are not aware that the are color and black and white phase-contrast. | Jan 07 10:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: Ok greyscale phase-contrast. The insanity is greyscale phase-contrast microscopes can go for 4 times the price of a normal optical that can be converted to one without any major trouble. | Jan 07 10:49 |
| schestowitz | [09:12] <msb_> Forcing women to wear black burkhas covering their entire head and body in the hot desert sun, and not allowing them to drive cars or go to university, is done throughout some entire Moslem nations, like Saudi Arabia, | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | They're allowed to go to university in Saudi Arabia | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | My friend lectures there as a visiting professor | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | the women cannot attend his lecture in person | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | it's not allowed | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | so they're in some distant room watching a video link | Jan 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | as in, physically separated by the men who are allowed to see him in person | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | weird, I know... | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Don't get me started on Saudi Barbaria's treatment of women, but they're allowed to go to university | Jan 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | my wife's sister used to work in Saudi Arabia and she tells some stories about how many of the surgeries she worked on happened to involve people who got things 'accidentally' stuck up their arse | Jan 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | or that people there who shave look to them a lot like women and are therefore at risk of being raped | Jan 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | My friend was sort of stalked by a guy there, it's generally not a safe place, and UK gov. now advises Brits against visiting the country (while selling it lots of weapons and other 'defense' stuff for billions of pounds -- to the pockets of the rich only) | Jan 07 10:53 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: mind you there are many stupid laws around the world still on the books not enforced. Like Memphis usa a woman is not meant to drive car unless male is on road ahead of her waving a red flag. Now that could really be temping fate. | Jan 07 10:57 |
| cubexyz | surely they would repeal the dumb old laws? :) | Jan 07 10:58 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: that's very old | Jan 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | and became a classic | Jan 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I guess cars used to be harder to drive and operate | Jan 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | (not steer, although power steering too changed the 'rules') | Jan 07 11:02 |
| schestowitz | cars used to be very mechanical and more complex-to-operate machines, required some strength, not dexterity | Jan 07 11:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the fine for breaking the law is a max of 10 dollars a day. | Jan 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Not making excuse for these laws, just saying that today any such excuses for misogynists are no longer valid | Jan 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Try riding a car without power steering | Jan 07 11:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so yes the law is very old and no one has updated the fine either. | Jan 07 11:03 |
| schestowitz | and a clutch system without all the fancy improvements made over the years to leave room for errors | Jan 07 11:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Police enforce that law would mostly be wasting their time. | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | and get fired | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | after the PD comes under media fire | Jan 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Repealing the law would cause media buzz | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | which in itself would be embarrassing | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | !google switzerland law women vote | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Women's suffrage in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerland | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Women's suffrage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Appenzell Innerrhoden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appenzell_Innerrhoden | Jan 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Long Way to Women's Right to Vote in Switzerland: a Chronology | http://history-switzerland.geschichte-schweiz.ch/chronology-womens-right-vote-switzerland.html | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | I think 70s? | Jan 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "Women's Right to Vote" | Jan 07 11:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some to get repealed. Like witchcraft/Paganism was illegal in Queensland Australia until 2001. Yet had been not enforce for 60 odd years. | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Introduction of women's right to vote in some European / North American nations: | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1917 Soviet Union 1928 United Kingdom | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1918 Austria 1944 France | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1919 Germany 1945 Italy | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | 1920 USA 1971 Switzerland | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Ah, USSR first | Jan 07 11:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 60 odd years before 2001 that is. | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | and they say Soviets were all that bad... | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | France 1944? Italy the following year? | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Germany post WW1 | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | other nations post WW2 | Jan 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Austria before Germany | Jan 07 11:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: when I say illegal witchcraft/Paganism the charge was equal to murder if convicted being 15 years in jail. | Jan 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | why? | Jan 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Aboriginals or something? | Jan 07 11:07 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: it was just a stupid law that got past. | Jan 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | What's the threat associated with paganism? We still do their winter festival (xmas) | Jan 07 11:07 |
| cubexyz | no idea :) | Jan 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | " A majority of Switzerland's men say no in a national referendum on women's right to vote on February, 1st: 654,939 (67%) no vs. 323,727 (31%) yes. " | Jan 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Probably men's rule, for men... | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | It was a case that for 3 years most of the people in parlment were all chrisian rellgionus nuts. | Jan 07 11:08 |
| schestowitz | If women cannot vote, who would be able to vote for their right to vote? :-) | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | So they past a anti witchcraft/paganism law. | Jan 07 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Then it sat on the books for 60 odd years never enforced. | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Saudi still executes witches | Jan 07 11:09 |
| cubexyz | what about All Hallow's Eve? Was that pagan too? | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | well, 'witches' (women who they deem worthy of killing) | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Romanians largely believe in witchcraft crap | Jan 07 11:09 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah witch burning | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes, but lower profile holiday | Jan 07 11:09 |
| schestowitz | apparently, the church we occasionally visit (Catholic) doesn't like that holiday | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | only xmas | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | as long as they put together their nativity scene and pretend it was always about baby jeeezus | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | and they even call it Christ-Mass | Jan 07 11:10 |
| schestowitz | so maybe Halloween would just need some Jesus-theme rebrand for the Church to adopt | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | !google saudi beheads witches | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Saudi woman beheaded for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - CNN.com | http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/ | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Saudi man executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery' - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-18503550 | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Public executions in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Saudi_Arabia | Jan 07 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Will Saudi Arabia Execute Guest Workers for 'Witchcraft'? - The Daily ... | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/29/indonesia-workers-in-saudi-arabia-are-on-trial-for-witchcraft-some-facing-the-death-penalty.html | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | even man | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | male witch? | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | guest workers too.... | Jan 07 11:11 |
| cubexyz | warlock I think they were called | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | for witchcraft | Jan 07 11:11 |
| schestowitz | wow, worse than I thought | Jan 07 11:11 |
| oiaohm | All Hallows Eve is a prank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints'_Day on this from the Roman Catholic Church | Jan 07 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | All Saints' Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oe1ej ] | Jan 07 11:12 | |
| cubexyz | Hallowmas :) | Jan 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz | we went to Alton Towers this year for it | Jan 07 11:14 |
| schestowitz | it was awesome because they had special attractions for it | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | and it was open till 9pm | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is something important Halloween is 24 hours before All Hallows Eve what is meant the be the night of the 1 of november. | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | so you could do rollercoasters at night | Jan 07 11:15 |
| cubexyz | later on Hallowmas morphed into stuff-yourself-with-candymass | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | they had stuff dressed up very professionally | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where Halloween is the 31 of october. | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | even one with chainsaw sounding thing chasing people in the park | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | at night | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I got it wrong. | Jan 07 11:15 |
| oiaohm | Halloween is a prank on All Hallows Eve | Jan 07 11:15 |
| schestowitz | some kids came knocking for candy and left a mess in the front garden | Jan 07 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people call Halloween as All Hallows Eve that is wrong. | Jan 07 11:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, we don't want to celebrate the wrong day :) | Jan 07 11:16 |
| schestowitz | the fences got skewered and all... | Jan 07 11:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: after all the paganons Roman Catholic Church had killed they are allowed some prankman ship. | Jan 07 11:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: where I grew up in Australia we had no Halloween and it still something that is very rarely done in Australia. | Jan 07 11:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Guy Fawkes Night was a lot more populater anyhow. Particularly when explosives were still open to children. Yes blowing up mail boxes. | Jan 07 11:23 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @DebtKnowMorecom favourited '3 open source personal finance tools for Linux...' | Jan 07 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 3 open source personal finance tools for Linux | Jan 07 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fXZPSJJu3r (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1fc | Jan 07 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3 open source personal finance tools for Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 07 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, | Jan 07 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Jan 07 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/c5ei5yl7v6 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 07 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1fd | Jan 07 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Jan 07 11:26 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: do you have those Spanish-related emails? | Jan 07 11:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/surlydev/status/685064104969637888 | Jan 07 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@surlydev: @schestowitz I don't see the link leading to anything about security or backdoors. | Jan 07 12:00 | |
| schestowitz | #Vista10 and "Windows" anything have back doors aplenty , by intention http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Jan 07 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Jan 07 12:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EsRevorTeR/status/685065226203561984 | Jan 07 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EsRevorTeR: @schestowitz Adding one that is often overlooked: never #mix multiple id's aliases accounts on the same device, in essence use: Tails USB | Jan 07 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hardware we certified in 2015 to Respect Your | Jan 07 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Freedom https://t.co/P5q3fSbwLv (www.fsf.org) | Jan 07 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1iz | Jan 07 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Hardware we certified in 2015 to Respect Your Freedom — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Jan 07 12:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "ARM-based models with Ubuntu preinstalled | Jan 07 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | following in February, says Adlink" | Jan 07 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IzQOsKoetK (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 07 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1j0 | Jan 07 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged touchscreen PCs come in ARM and x86 flavors · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 12:05 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/new-year-new-patents-act-for-spain.html?showComment=1452164594948#c3797479769466850009 | Jan 07 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: New Year - New Patents Act for Spain [ http://ur1.ca/oe1jh ] | Jan 07 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | " Kant, you must be joking, right? Don't hold your breath for Spain joining the London Agreement, the unitary patent or otherwise abolishing the requirement for complete translation of EP patents. Not only is the current acting government bitterly opposed to this, but I can't see any of the parties that have won significant amount of votes in the latest general election support that either. " | Jan 07 12:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/685070833161777153 | Jan 07 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Still feel for the mono devs on the .net front! Great year however! https://t.co/YJNcZVdJbb | Jan 07 12:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion https://t.co/rpZmdXOBqY #freesw | Jan 07 12:12 | |
| schestowitz | Don't feel bad for people who serve Microsoft's interests inside Microsoft's competition (like moles) | Jan 07 12:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/685072366809006080 | Jan 07 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz Pow! ;) It was a bridge to Linux for those .net devs who were looking to access tools for a bit however. | Jan 07 12:17 | |
| schestowitz | The issue is, some mono (.NET) dev/apps were starting to replace and push out/repel POSIX-type developers and programs | Jan 07 12:17 |
| schestowitz | developers and especially #google must watch out as #xamarin #microsoft and #cyanogen Inc. try to do the same now | Jan 07 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MyNameIsZK1234 https://t.co/c5ei5yl7v6 (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1lg | Jan 07 12:29 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: .net applications push were undo a lot by Vala. Yes has syntax lot like .net yet a lot better memory foot print and faster. | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2SIK8yNdSB (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1lh | Jan 07 12:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EXTON Linux MultiBootCD Includes Porteus, GParted, PuppEX, 4MLinux, SliTaz and Tiny Core | Tux Machines | Jan 07 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion | Jan 07 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iAW0Ihg9gb (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1lk | Jan 07 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2015 – Year of Open Source explosion | Tux Machines | Jan 07 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/1201506245668/queen-elizabeth-move-out-buckingham-palace | Jan 07 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us.hellomagazine.com | Queen Elizabeth may move out of Buckingham Palace for renovations [ http://ur1.ca/oe1mq ] | Jan 07 12:43 | |
| schestowitz | "an estimated $236 million" | Jan 07 12:43 |
| schestowitz | "We strongly encourage you to use http://media.ccc.de/ or if you like a | Jan 07 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://media.ccc.de/ ) | Jan 07 12:53 | |
| schestowitz | more simple view http://cdn.media.ccc.de/; " | Jan 07 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cdn.media.ccc.de | Index of / | Jan 07 12:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://events.ccc.de/2015/01/03/the-youtube-and-stream-dump-problem/ | Jan 07 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-events.ccc.de | The YouTube and stream dump problem « CCC Event Weblog [ http://ur1.ca/oe1np ] | Jan 07 12:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Does Open Source Have a Place in DevOps? | Jan 07 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GEaRCIwCu1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 13:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Does Open Source Have a Place in DevOps? | Tux Machines | Jan 07 13:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mycroft Releases Key AI Component as Open | Jan 07 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Source https://t.co/3RMCMX8Vfk | Jan 07 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mycroft Releases Key AI Component as Open Source | Tux Machines | Jan 07 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remix OS is Android for the desktop, and it | Jan 07 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | works with nearly any PC | Jan 07 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/e1aEEeE01z (www.theverge.com) | Jan 07 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Remix OS is Android for the desktop, and it works with nearly any PC | The Verge | Jan 07 13:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BlackBerry going all-in on Android phones | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oXfF8WT2l7 (www.cnet.com) | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe1ro | Jan 07 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | BlackBerry going all-in on Android phones - CNET | Jan 07 13:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Samsung Z3 and the Galaxy S3: How the | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nostalgic Surrenders to the New | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FEvR9ww8OT (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 07 13:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | The Samsung Z3 and the Galaxy S3: How the Nostalgic Surrenders to the New - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 13:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung 2016 SUHD Smart TV to become your Smart | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Home IoT Hub https://t.co/SvjlIT0cjl | Jan 07 13:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 07 13:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung 2016 SUHD Smart TV to become your Smart Home IoT Hub - Tizen Experts | Jan 07 13:36 | |
| oiaohm | Now that remix OS move is interesting | Jan 07 13:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Casio's First Android Wear Watch Will Be | Jan 07 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ruggedized And Have Up To A Month Of Battery | Jan 07 13:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Life https://t.co/4k8ZuH2oAg | Jan 07 13:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Casio's First Android Wear Watch Will Be Ruggedized And Have Up To A Month Of Battery Life | Jan 07 13:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian-Based DebEX GNOME Linux OS Now Includes MATE...' | Jan 07 13:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kali Linux NetHunter 3.0 Android Mobile Penetration Testing...' | Jan 07 13:51 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/06/3736587/ammon-bundy-rosa-parks-hoax/ | Jan 07 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | How A Racist Troll Pretended To Be Ammon Bundy On Twitter And Punked Most Of The Media | ThinkProgress | Jan 07 14:12 | |
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| msb_ | Witch Burning by Christians: Millions of women were tortured to death by Catholics and Protestants from about 1200 onward. Motivations: some were Goddess worshippers, some were wealthy widows whose husbands had died in the many wars and someone wanted their land, some were herbal doctors and midwives who were far more successful medically than male doctors who used the latest scientific discoveries to treat patients -- lead, arsenic, | Jan 07 15:05 |
| msb_ | and mercury. | Jan 07 15:05 |
| msb_ | Some of the women were suspended over a fire from a pulley, and when they lost consciousness, the Christians pulled them up until they awakened and could feel more pain, then lowered them into the fire again. | Jan 07 15:06 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: These Christians were as monstrous as ISIL and the Saudis are today. | Jan 07 15:07 |
| schestowitz | those who write history... | Jan 07 15:08 |
| msb_ | I suspect that thousands of years ago, Jews did similar mass murders. | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | (and omit or change the parts that don't suit their interests) | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | msb_: fundamental difference | Jan 07 15:08 |
| msb_ | Judaeo-Christian-Islamic religion is the scourge of mankind. | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | Islam and Catholicism tries to spread | Jan 07 15:08 |
| schestowitz | Christians used to do that by tortureing and killing people where it's harder | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Esp. the Spanish empire did this | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | But that kind of stopped | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | They still try to spread | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | but not violently | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Islam has always resorted to violent means | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | it still, in some countries, does this | Jan 07 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Judaism doesn't try to spread by conversion | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | neither by force or without | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | and it's very very strict when it comes to who's allowed "in the club" | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | even then converts are threated as whatever word they make up | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | "Goyim", "Shiksa", gentile, etc. | Jan 07 15:10 |
| schestowitz | so that's an opposite kind of problem | Jan 07 15:11 |
| msb_ | Ask the Palestinians. Israel is now spraying herbicides on what remains of Palestinian farmland. A new method of genocide. | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | all 3 religions are monotheistic and Abrahamic, but they're not identical | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | extermination in symbolism | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | plants first | Jan 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz | later "mow the grass" | Jan 07 15:11 |
| msb_ | The Israelis have tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. They've used white phosphorus and nerve gas. | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | !google us mow the grass drone children | Jan 07 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Former Drone Operators Say They Were “Horrified” By Cruelty of ... | https://theintercept.com/2015/11/19/former-drone-operators-say-they-were-horrified-by-cruelty-of-assassination-program/ | Jan 07 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ex-Drone Operator Says Program Is 'Good At Killing People, Just ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/drones-isis-terrorism-barack-obama_564e03d6e4b00b7997f99af0 | Jan 07 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Life as a drone operator: 'Ever step on ants and never give it another ... | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/life-as-a-drone-pilot-creech-air-force-base-nevada | Jan 07 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Drone Whistleblower: Pilots Often High on Drugs; Refer To Kids As ... | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/drone-whistleblower-pilots-often-high-drugs-refer-kids-fun-size-terrorists | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | msb_: right, but so do other nations | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | which doesn't justify what Israel does | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Some nations also do this unprovoked | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | See countries even outside the M-E and Africa | Jan 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, you know the other examples | Jan 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Inc. those of the US, where you live.... | Jan 07 15:13 |
| msb_ | Israelis were never provoked. The Zionists had no right to Palestine in the first place. | Jan 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz | US didn't defend itself from Vietnam | Jan 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Yet it killed millions there, in a cruel campaign of carpet-bombing that simply disregards foreigners' lives | Jan 07 15:13 |
| msb_ | Yes, the US is the most murderous nation on Earth. | Jan 07 15:13 |
| msb_ | All throughout the 20th century and now this one. | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | even later 19th centruty | Jan 07 15:14 |
| msb_ | Wealthy Americans provided 75% of Hitler's funding for WW2, in order to eliminate socialists. | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | but people don't remember this far | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | esp. now pre-WW1 | Jan 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz | A lot in the US probably don't get taught the Spanish-US War | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Or the takeover of a lot of Mexico | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | or the "territories" (euphemism for colonies) | Jan 07 15:15 |
| msb_ | Native Americans -- tens or hundreds of millions murdered by US colonists. | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | msb_: that's a BS number | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | 75% of Hitler's funding for WW | Jan 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz | german had its own funding too, and means of production more importantly | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | That's like claiming that Israel's IDF is funded 75% by the British | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | or China's army being 75% funded by Russia | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | it even sounds absurd because it's total nonsense | Jan 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz | show me the accounting | Jan 07 15:16 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Jan 07 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Jan 07 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | or rescind these weird statements that make this channel look like k00ks | Jan 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz | That doesn't show 75% of overall funding coming from people in the US | Jan 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz | You made it up or misinterpreted the numbers | Jan 07 15:17 |
| msb_ | You read all those references in 4 seconds? | Jan 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz | The US as a government/state didn't even want to be associated with the Nazis even before the war | Jan 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | more so than Argentina with its German ties.... it officially staying sort of neutral | Jan 07 15:18 |
| msb_ | I said "wealthy americans" not the US govt. | Jan 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | msb_: Germany's GDP before invasion of Poland was a lot greater than all the money that came from the US combined | Jan 07 15:18 |
| schestowitz | By orders of magnitude | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | This is an absurd discussion | Jan 07 15:19 |
| msb_ | You don't want to look at the information. | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | because even engaging in it is like debating with someone whether the Holocaust was a hoax | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | I saw your 'information' before | Jan 07 15:19 |
| schestowitz | It's a list of donors | Jan 07 15:20 |
| msb_ | It's hundreds of pages. | Jan 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | What you do is trying to frame it as though the US perpetrated WW2 and was the leading force with 75% of funding behind the Nazis, which is BS | Jan 07 15:20 |
| schestowitz | next thing you'll say it, Israel controls or owns the US | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Or Rothschields control the whole world etc. | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | You lost the plot | Jan 07 15:21 |
| msb_ | The US did perpetrate WW2 to destroy socialism. | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | no | Jan 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Take your nuttery to a non-technical forum | Jan 07 15:22 |
| schestowitz | You just sound like you need some lterature | Jan 07 15:22 |
| msb_ | Israel controls the US well enough to get US support in genociding the Palestinians plus billions of dollars every year for weapons, plus the initital fissionable material for its nuclear weapons program which now has about 400 nuclear bombs. | Jan 07 15:22 |
| msb_ | I have 5 excellent videos plus web pages proving that the US did the 9/11 attacks, but you won't watch them because you think you know it's not true. So you refuse to access the information, as you have been programmed to do by the corporate media. | Jan 07 15:25 |
| schestowitz | toss is elsewhere | Jan 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz | not only do you bring politics here but you dump batshit nuttery here | Jan 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz | and no other forum would want that | Jan 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz | so please stop | Jan 07 15:26 |
| msb_ | The global US war against socialism after WW2: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#American_Holocaust | Jan 07 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone [ http://ur1.ca/g23vd ] | Jan 07 15:26 | |
| msb_ | You are _lying_ when you call this information "nuttery". | Jan 07 15:27 |
| msb_ | You are the one who introduced what you call "politics" here today: " <schestowitz> US didn't defend itself from Vietnam" | Jan 07 15:28 |
| oiaohm | msb_: I would say you are nuts in a lot of ways. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Study-estimates-Israels-nuclear-weapon-count-stands-at-115-434834 Sorry the max weapon count for Israel is 150. | Jan 07 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jpost.com | Study estimates Israel's nuclear weapon count stands at 115 - Israel News - Jerusalem Post [ http://ur1.ca/oe264 ] | Jan 07 15:32 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: and 150 is at the outside. 400 weapons is just not possible with the supplies Israel has. | Jan 07 15:33 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: You love systemd and you claim that cannabis is harmful. You are a vicious liar. | Jan 07 15:33 |
| oiaohm | msb_: You make a mistake. I did not love systemd. I said it had to happen. | Jan 07 15:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: medical data exists on cannabis harmful effects. | Jan 07 15:34 |
| msb_ | Jerusalem Post underestimates the number of Israeli nukes -- big whoop. | Jan 07 15:34 |
| oiaohm | msb_: other groups have performed the same study. X about of fuel only produces so much material to make nukes from. | Jan 07 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course the fact the limit is 150 that does not mean they don't have 400 non nuke dirty bombs. | Jan 07 15:36 |
| oiaohm | The reality here you are the one being a vicious liar. | Jan 07 15:37 |
| oiaohm | msb_: really 150 Nukes is still a hell of a weapon stock pile. | Jan 07 15:42 |
| msb_ | I would not say that 2015 was the year of Open Source, because the ruling psychopaths have destr0yed Linux as an alternative to MS for easy mass adoption: 1 systemd 2 UEFI 3 KDE5/Plasma 4 SJW vs Linus. | Jan 07 15:42 |
| msb_ | Facts about Israel: http://cosmicpenguin.com/IsraelInfoCensored.html | Jan 07 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Israel, Palestine, the 9/11 Attacks, "Terrorism" | Jan 07 15:43 | |
| oiaohm | msb_: the fact the number of possible weapons on that page is wrong you have to wonder how much is wrong. | Jan 07 15:45 |
| oiaohm | msb_: hydrogen bombs using the smallest core possible(ok not a good yielding weapon) is 200 weapons and that is. | Jan 07 15:45 |
| msb_ | oiaohm: Your lies depend on claiming to know all of Israel's sources of uranium, which they keep very secret. | Jan 07 15:47 |
| oiaohm | No it does not. | Jan 07 15:47 |
| oiaohm | The calculation I am using depends on the size processing plant you have access to. | Jan 07 15:48 |
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| oiaohm | Israels processing plants running 24/7 can only produce so much weapon grade material. | Jan 07 15:48 |
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| msb_ | They also keep that very secret. | Jan 07 15:48 |
| oiaohm | msb_: its not very secret | Jan 07 15:48 |
| oiaohm | The fun fact processing plants give off signals. | Jan 07 15:49 |
| oiaohm | You cannot hide them. | Jan 07 15:49 |
| oiaohm | Of course I would not put it pass Israel the fact that they would want people to think they have a larger number of weapons then what they could have physically produced. | Jan 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The three articles about the EPO's mistreatment of small applicants have been manually translated into Spanish by a native English speaker (links inline in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO under the respective articles). It doesn't seem safe (yet) to publish anything about politicians or complaints to the EPO's "support", as anonymisation is hard and it can compromise an ongoing process. I shall wait for the right time with these... | Jan 07 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Jan 07 15:51 | |
| oiaohm | is more than possible. | Jan 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | msb_: you keep bringing nutty political views here. They're not even views, they're lies | Jan 07 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Please stop it, you distract the channel | Jan 07 15:52 |
| schestowitz | instead of talking about tech a lot of effort it spent correcting the diarrhea you habitually spill here | Jan 07 15:53 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: About once every month or two, when people pick a fight with me. oiaohm spends hours here every other day or so pushing systemd -- the worst thing ever to happen to Open Source. But you don't mind. | Jan 07 15:58 |
| oiaohm | msb_: also there is something else there is a reason why you normally would not make a hydrogen bomb with a small core as a defensive item. tritium that is key to a hydrogen bomb has to replaced about every 2 decades. So number of hydrogen bomb is limited by countries tritium production. | Jan 07 15:59 |
| oiaohm | You might not like systemd I don't 100 percent like it either. I accept that it something that had to happen. | Jan 07 16:00 |
| oiaohm | msb_: explain to me why it took until systemd started getting developed for someone to make x-initrd,mount option in fstab. | Jan 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | at least systemd is on topic | Jan 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | and something may come out of it in a technical site/forum/channel | Jan 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | unlike rantings about history and politics | Jan 07 16:06 |
| msb_ | Yes, the ruination of Linux, which was mankind's hope for software and communication freedom. | Jan 07 16:08 |
| oiaohm | msb_: the reality is lots of issues with logging failures of like failure mounting /var directory that existed under sysvinit are fixed by the x-initrd.mount option. Also items like fdisk programs under Linux to expect somewhere writeable at times to record failures. | Jan 07 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Running primary fstab/fdisk in the initrd with a writeable ram file system makes so much sense it not funny. | Jan 07 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Before systemd no one bothered mapping out from start to finish how a Linux system should boot. And where everything should be performed. | Jan 07 16:10 |
| oiaohm | So like it or not systemd has had to happen. Of course systemd could require replacing with something better. | Jan 07 16:11 |
| oiaohm | msb_: this is where you say I like systemd is wrong. I point out many faults in systemd. | Jan 07 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/685131973623418881 | Jan 07 16:31 |
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| MinceR | 163419 < oiaohm> msb_: You make a mistake. I did not love systemd. I said it had to happen. | Jan 07 16:38 |
| MinceR | and advertised it regularly | Jan 07 16:38 |
| MinceR | and attacked people for criticizing its "design" | Jan 07 16:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to be truthful exactly more people are looking at the boot design than what has been bothered about from the start of Linux to the start of systemd. | Jan 07 16:40 |
| MinceR | yay systemd | Jan 07 16:41 |
| MinceR | more people will develop init systems which will never be used due to systemd dependence | Jan 07 16:42 |
| MinceR | it's so great | Jan 07 16:42 |
| oiaohm | People developing half init systems that never get used has happened for over 30 years. | Jan 07 16:43 |
| oiaohm | Due to the fact they were not sysvinit compadible. | Jan 07 16:43 |
| oiaohm | so nothing on the dependance side has really changed. | Jan 07 16:43 |
| MinceR | sysvinit dependency affects only daemon start/stop scripts, which are easily substituted for other service managers | Jan 07 16:44 |
| MinceR | unlike the hairball of dbus APIs lendows depends on | Jan 07 16:44 |
| MinceR | in fact, bsd init/rc was used quite a lot already | Jan 07 16:45 |
| MinceR | so oiaohm is here again, advertising systemd as not being so different from sysvinit | Jan 07 16:46 |
| oiaohm | To be correct bsd init/rc does not answer how to talk cleaning to the init system from inside a bsd jail. | Jan 07 16:46 |
| oiaohm | The dbus hairball is explained by attempting to solve that problem. | Jan 07 16:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of places systemd does not change the envornment that much. | Jan 07 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Even logind being designed around dbus gives problems when you want to run users in properly isolated containers. | Jan 07 16:48 |
| MinceR | 174631 < oiaohm> To be correct bsd init/rc does not answer how to talk cleaning to the init system from inside a bsd jail. | Jan 07 16:49 |
| MinceR | most programs do not care about this | Jan 07 16:49 |
| MinceR | and the dbus hairball is addressing the problem of "not enough stuff hard-depending on redhat-controlled crap" | Jan 07 16:50 |
| oiaohm | it becomes important problem causing jails under BSD not being used as much as they could be. | Jan 07 16:50 |
| oiaohm | Systemd from the start had the idea that kdbus would replace it dbus usage. | Jan 07 16:50 |
| oiaohm | Of course that never happened. | Jan 07 16:51 |
| oiaohm | And a lot of fixed in systemd design were put as fix when kdbus works. Kinda stupid. | Jan 07 16:51 |
| MinceR | the systemd "design" is a fractal of stupidity | Jan 07 16:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd has basically started building a house by starting by building the roof in mid air. | Jan 07 16:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and wondering why you have problems. | Jan 07 16:52 |
| MinceR | i have problems because redhat is behaving like microsoft | Jan 07 16:52 |
| oiaohm | My point of view they should have started at the kernel IPC. | Jan 07 16:52 |
| oiaohm | Making a proper IPC that works across containers. | Jan 07 16:53 |
| MinceR | no, they should have started at recruiting properly trained software engineers | Jan 07 16:54 |
| MinceR | and putting them in charge | Jan 07 16:54 |
| MinceR | or they should have left the whole thing alone | Jan 07 16:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Microsoft normally starts with someone making the floor and someone making the roof with each party having different measurements then attempting to glue both sided up to each other. | Jan 07 16:54 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: properly trained software engineers does not fix split brain problem Microsoft suffers from. | Jan 07 16:55 |
| MinceR | microsoft too "works" with the wrong principles, the wrong goals, with clueless code monkeys at the oars and evil suits at the helm | Jan 07 16:55 |
| MinceR | it would help, though | Jan 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: serousally most of Microsoft programs are formally trained. | Jan 07 16:56 |
| MinceR | yeah, empty heads with certifications | Jan 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but management has created a split brain mine field. | Jan 07 16:56 |
| MinceR | then again, even with capable people m$ would probably only aim to destroy | Jan 07 16:56 |
| oiaohm | I still remember seeing a NT/Windows kernel developer stating that Windows can never be as fast as Linux kernel due to how much split brain microsoft has. | Jan 07 16:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes that was person with all the correct formals. | Jan 07 16:57 |
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| MinceR | what about this one? https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/microsoft-insider-on-why-microsoft-sucks-and-rocks/6907 | Jan 07 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-what.thedailywtf.com | Microsoft insider on why Microsoft sucks (and rocks) - General - What the Daily WTF? [ http://ur1.ca/oe2i6 ] | Jan 07 16:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I would not say Microsoft is clueless code monkeys. Clueless managers of Developers kinda ruines everything. | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's mostly evil suits and a few clueless code monkeys | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | but you can tell that their software is indefensibly bad | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/hyperv/netvsc_drv.c?id=3a494e710367c0a233d86bcde9853781859fc008#n784 | Jan 07 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [ http://ur1.ca/n45bs ] | Jan 07 16:59 | |
| MinceR | like this | Jan 07 16:59 |
| MinceR | and their design is also horrible, like the winblows nt kernel and other subsystems | Jan 07 17:00 |
| oiaohm | Yep fun of changing to systemd and disappering sysvinit broken hyperv drivers. | Jan 07 17:01 |
| MinceR | it doesn't only break with systemd | Jan 07 17:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: good example of how trying to use something other than sysvinit based solution with Linux can bring a huge level of strangeness out of system. | Jan 07 17:02 |
| MinceR | no, it fails even on debian 7 with sysvinit | Jan 07 17:03 |
| MinceR | because the service is not "network" there, it's "networking" | Jan 07 17:03 |
| oiaohm | That right network named something else. | Jan 07 17:03 |
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| MinceR | typical inflexible m$ "design" | Jan 07 17:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: did you notice the http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-user-space-apps/ call_usermodehelper there. | Jan 07 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibm.com | Kernel APIs, Part 1: Invoking user-space applications from the kernel [ http://ur1.ca/oe2iz ] | Jan 07 17:06 | |
| MinceR | i don't think i've looked at that page before | Jan 07 17:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the existence of call_usermodehelper is part why I see moving terminal processing out of kernel space as a big problem. | Jan 07 17:06 |
| MinceR | another part is that they're plotting to move it into systemd | Jan 07 17:07 |
| MinceR | no systemd, no terminals | Jan 07 17:07 |
| MinceR | systemd crashes? time to power-cycle. | Jan 07 17:07 |
| oiaohm | Please note call_usermodehelper means terminals don't have to be PID1. | Jan 07 17:08 |
| MinceR | it will also break old distro userland versions | Jan 07 17:09 |
| MinceR | there was supposed to be a rule against that | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Not unless kernel ships with it. | Jan 07 17:09 |
| MinceR | but i guess everything is permitted in the quest for forcing systemd on everybody | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Ops | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Not unelss the kernel ships without it. | Jan 07 17:09 |
| oiaohm | So at some point to obey the kernel rules the software console would have to join the kernel code base. | Jan 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | i can see the obvious "solution" there | Jan 07 17:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and you have seen how hard kernel developers block crap. | Jan 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | and it's called "ksystemd" | Jan 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, i've seen how none of them except one blocked crap | Jan 07 17:11 |
| MinceR | i can already see the talking points claiming how much faster systemd (and boot!) will be in ring 0 | Jan 07 17:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not seen any of that. | Jan 07 17:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have in fact seen other arguments. | Jan 07 17:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: running in ring 0 in Linux kernel comes with some savage teeth. | Jan 07 17:12 |
| MinceR | does poettering care? | Jan 07 17:13 |
| MinceR | does gregkh care? | Jan 07 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://web.yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~tosh/kml/ | Jan 07 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.yl.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp | Kernel Mode Linux: Execute user processes in kernel mode | Jan 07 17:17 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how far to you think systemd would get facing talc | Jan 07 17:18 |
| MinceR | depends on how they blackmail Linus into merging it | Jan 07 17:18 |
| MinceR | or how they force distros to switch to Garrettux, where it will already be merged | Jan 07 17:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Garrettux what is that refering to. | Jan 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | matthew garrett's linux fork, obviously | Jan 07 17:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ok but most distrobutions did not do that. | Jan 07 17:21 |
| oiaohm | Debian did not. | Jan 07 17:21 |
| MinceR | they will, once systemd depends on it | Jan 07 17:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd first conferene they end up admitting forcing Distributions by making systemd depend on it does not work. | Jan 07 17:22 |
| MinceR | or once in the name of interoperability they "standardize" on yum/dnf/rpm package management | Jan 07 17:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically you are talking about something systemd developers tried and failed. It end up with maintainers applying distrobution patching to remove dependance. | Jan 07 17:23 |
| MinceR | and to reduce the work of systemd/Linux distro maintainers, they simply rebadge fedora and release it as their new distro release | Jan 07 17:23 |
| MinceR | and then fedora "upgrades" users from Linux to Garrettux | Jan 07 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Then Centos and others don't even follow. | Jan 07 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes even in the RPM camp they had rejection of that idea. | Jan 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | i've seen such interest groups try such things over and over, until they succeeded | Jan 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | does TTIP ring a bell? | Jan 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | that rejection was probably back when they cared | Jan 07 17:25 |
| MinceR | adoption of systemd shows they no longer do | Jan 07 17:25 |
| MinceR | once systemd comes with systemdnf and/or systemd-rpm and can't function without it, you'll see opposition disappear | Jan 07 17:25 |
| oiaohm | Only features in kernel space systemd was able to force to be on were normally on anyhow like cgroups. | Jan 07 17:26 |
| oiaohm | So there is strict limitation to systemd ablity to push MinceR they tried for 5 years and run into the same road blocks. | Jan 07 17:27 |
| oiaohm | So not like TTIP where they were able to keep on making small fragement process. | Jan 07 17:27 |
| MinceR | i doubt debian will resist anything from them anymore | Jan 07 17:28 |
| oiaohm | process. Progress. | Jan 07 17:28 |
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| MinceR | just like TTIP, most people got tired of resisting or forgot that the fascists didn't give up | Jan 07 17:28 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: kernel side is equally stuborn. | Jan 07 17:28 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: server deployment world is paid 24/7 to maintain them. | Jan 07 17:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so the server deployment world is the most powerful fascists of Linux world. | Jan 07 17:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: something the systemd group cannot presure past. | Jan 07 17:29 |
| MinceR | if you want to see how "stubborn" the kernel side is, see who stopped kdbus. | Jan 07 17:30 |
| oiaohm | Did you not notice to merge at first Linus sent to back and said it had to be merged with deployed Linux kernels. | Jan 07 17:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I guess you missed the level of rejection. | Jan 07 17:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: think about it if you get a feature Linux kernel mainline what is the point if no distrobution builds it. | Jan 07 17:33 |
| MinceR | think about what would happen if they got rid of Linus or blackmailed him | Jan 07 17:33 |
| MinceR | nodoby else resisted that obviously crap design built for the obviously wrong reasons | Jan 07 17:33 |
| oiaohm | Would have had the fate of a few other kernel features. | Jan 07 17:34 |
| MinceR | and the hype-V crap did make it into mainline | Jan 07 17:34 |
| oiaohm | Got into mainline and built by almost no distrobutions. | Jan 07 17:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: linus is only one of many hurdles. | Jan 07 17:34 |
| MinceR | so, is Linux now a landfill where crap design and crap code is collected? | Jan 07 17:34 |
| oiaohm | When a feature is not being used by many distrobutions you see a request appear for its removal. | Jan 07 17:35 |
| oiaohm | What normally ends in removal. | Jan 07 17:35 |
| oiaohm | If it does not end in removal support from distrobutions can disappear. | Jan 07 17:35 |
| MinceR | so if i send the output of `strings /dev/urandom` to the mailing list and ask for it to be merged, it will take a turn in mainline before being removed? | Jan 07 17:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Not how it works. | Jan 07 17:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 100 random crap is not going to pass sparse right. | Jan 07 17:38 |
| oiaohm | So there is a min quality standard. | Jan 07 17:38 |
| MinceR | unless you prefix it with /* and postfix it with */ | Jan 07 17:38 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty low standard, considering hype-V | Jan 07 17:38 |
| oiaohm | Please also note hyper-v is only in the staging section of the kernel tree meaning nothing else can be built depending on it. | Jan 07 17:39 |
| oiaohm | To make it simple to remove at some point in future. | Jan 07 17:39 |
| MinceR | is "staging" the Linux name of "trashcan"? | Jan 07 17:39 |
| oiaohm | Yes it is. | Jan 07 17:39 |
| oiaohm | Getting into staging you still have to pass having sparse inspect your code. | Jan 07 17:40 |
| MinceR | will sparse say "it's utterly braindead to hardcode stuff like this in the kernel"? | Jan 07 17:40 |
| oiaohm | To get out of staging you have to have many distrobutions maintainers sign off that its ok. | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | that shouldn't be a problem | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | redhat management controls RHELl, fedora, centos | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | debian takes their orders from redhat | Jan 07 17:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not enough. | Jan 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | ubuntu agrees with everything debian does | Jan 07 17:42 |
| oiaohm | You need signs offs from google, facebook, rackspace and others. | Jan 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | at this point they'll just claim it's enough | Jan 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | which distros do those maintain? | Jan 07 17:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: their own. | Jan 07 17:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: big server companies have their own internal private Linux OS solutions. | Jan 07 17:43 |
| oiaohm | Piss them off Linux foundation ends up without most of their funding. | Jan 07 17:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat might seam big but they are only a small once you find the true big boys. | Jan 07 17:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sparse is not smart enough to find a lot of hardcoded stupidity. | Jan 07 17:46 |
| MinceR | they're big enough to destroy gnu and unix, apparently | Jan 07 17:46 |
| MinceR | see, that's why trusting sparse to catch such idiocy is not enough | Jan 07 17:46 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Please note passing sparse and making no complier warnings only gets you to staging. | Jan 07 17:47 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: once it gets to staging the big boys look at it then decide if they will vote to keep it or vote to reject it. | Jan 07 17:48 |
| MinceR | which of the "big boys" realized systemd and kdbus are utterly destructive crap? | Jan 07 17:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: did not make it that far. | Jan 07 17:48 |
| MinceR | why, which distro are they using? | Jan 07 17:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: google amazon facebook rackspace all make there own internal distorbution named something strange. Like google search runs on a OS halfway between debian and redhat with custom packaged gluing that into 1 bit. | Jan 07 17:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with a completley custom built kernel. | Jan 07 17:51 |
| MinceR | so based on debian and redhat | Jan 07 17:51 |
| MinceR | both of those are lendows | Jan 07 17:51 |
| MinceR | shows you how much clue they have | Jan 07 17:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no those servers use a init system that is not sysvinit or systemd. | Jan 07 17:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the stuff the big boys run is highly strange stuff. | Jan 07 17:53 |
| MinceR | do they rely on YUM to make their systems impossible to update or reconfigure? | Jan 07 17:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: customised apt-get | Jan 07 17:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes apt-get able to raid YUM repositories. | Jan 07 17:54 |
| MinceR | but can it reproduce YUM bugs resulting in total brokenness? | Jan 07 17:54 |
| oiaohm | Please note I said raid. | Jan 07 17:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: reach into YUM repository and rebuild it locally as a apt style repository. | Jan 07 17:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rocket League will be on SteamOS & Linux before | Jan 07 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Xbox One in February | Jan 07 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Bs5etwYVTR (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 07 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe467 | Jan 07 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Rocket League will be on SteamOS & Linux before the Xbox One in February | GamingOnLinux | Jan 07 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/685231091494567937 | Jan 07 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Zaurus revisited. But much better. | Jan 07 23:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bromleypopulo favourited '"There will be a number of Tizen talks"...' | Jan 07 23:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iConsole @tuxmachines Our response was posted weeks ago, | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | we weren't contacted by Softpedia: | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MWVYPoIJ87 (www.kickstarter.com) | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe49r | Jan 07 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kickstarter.com | Console OS: Dual-Boot Android, Remastered for The PC by Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. — Kickstarter | Jan 07 23:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iConsole @tuxmachines We also can't seem to register to | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your site to post a comment. Perhaps you can | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | share the reply link too for fairness? | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe49s | Jan 07 23:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.3.1 released | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qlAKth10m3 (www.alpinelinux.org) | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4ay | Jan 07 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.3.1 released | Alpine Linux | Jan 07 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 23 Updated Respins coming, Saying | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | goodbye to Fedora 22 Respins | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YTgchwIiyx | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxmodder.wordpress.com) | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4az | Jan 07 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com | Fedora 23 Updated Respins coming, Saying goodbye to Fedora 22 Respins | Linux-modder's Tech Corner | Jan 07 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Now Supports Screen Rotation On | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland https://t.co/YzuK1Pl4Y3 | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 07 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4b0 | Jan 07 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME's Mutter Now Supports Screen Rotation On Wayland - Phoronix | Jan 07 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1SP0FHkzCm (www.linuxjournal.com) | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4be | Jan 07 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux Journal | Jan 07 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qYvCAyga9q (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4bf | Jan 07 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | self-driving cars https://t.co/mGnTogNH84 | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 07 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4bg | Jan 07 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Nvidia unveils Drive PX 2 platform for self-driving cars · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 23:36 | |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has left #techrights | Jan 07 23:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | cars https://t.co/Gb2tqZlhhx (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4cm | Jan 07 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Qualcomm aims new Snapdragon 820a SoC at smart cars · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 07 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/f60kUzhJlV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4cn | Jan 07 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IXPdyI2M6d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 07 23:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe4co | Jan 07 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Update for Ubuntu Phones Looks Really Promising, Says Canonical | Tux Machines | Jan 07 23:45 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jan 08 01:57 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 08 01:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/aGefw2nEkl | Jan 08 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe584 | Jan 08 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 08 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by | Jan 08 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open-source SDN code https://t.co/tOtlQfkfPy | Jan 08 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe586 | Jan 08 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Half of AT&T's networks are controlled by open-source SDN code | Tux Machines | Jan 08 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3xvLuGR8jJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5bh | Jan 08 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thinking Outside The (Linux) Box | Tux Machines | Jan 08 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7KqgT4f2Re (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5bi | Jan 08 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer Developed by Mozilla | Tux Machines | Jan 08 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CjsuKaqEZA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5bj | Jan 08 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7, Firmware Updates in GNOME Software | Tux Machines | Jan 08 04:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer...' | Jan 08 04:12 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, part of the rudeness of Linux people on IRC was RTFM | Jan 08 05:11 |
| cubexyz | which people were not doing | Jan 08 05:11 |
| cubexyz | so a certain percentage of people got rude | Jan 08 05:12 |
| cubexyz | but the mistake that some linux people made/make is not recognize the importance of what came before | Jan 08 05:12 |
| cubexyz | e.g. the importance of Thompson and Ritchie et all | Jan 08 05:13 |
| cubexyz | in other words the importance of Unix | Jan 08 05:13 |
| cubexyz | it was the main template for a lot of things | Jan 08 05:13 |
| cubexyz | of course GNU was/is also important | Jan 08 05:14 |
| cubexyz | that's why I use both Linux and BSD | Jan 08 05:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Akonadi – still alive and rocking | Jan 08 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3c5E8aMLMt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5t6 | Jan 08 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Akonadi – still alive and rocking | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lvDHdCZByG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5t7 | Jan 08 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin Bieber's 'Sorry' Video | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jkgWeqBYAJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5t8 | Jan 08 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for the AMDGPU Driver, Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the living room https://t.co/LMeSfo5iws | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe5t9 | Jan 08 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers the living room | Tux Machines | Jan 08 07:36 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 08 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers | Jan 08 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the living room https://t.co/20JGZaXLAN | Jan 08 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cio.com) | Jan 08 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe68e | Jan 08 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV review: Linux conquers the living room | CIO | Jan 08 10:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MattRosoff/status/685370770596311041 | Jan 08 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MattRosoff: The true startup dreamers are outcasts, misfits, non-conformists. Art, not just science. | Jan 08 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | MS Matt | Jan 08 11:06 |
| schestowitz | how funny in relation to MSFT | Jan 08 11:06 |
| schestowitz | gates born rich and privileged | Jan 08 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A first look at Collabora/LibreOffice online | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (and a little bit of frustration) | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7bUYlZjUBG (www.indidea.org) | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6ao | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux Foundation Announces 2016 Events | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Schedule https://t.co/FNktzmaPQT | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxfoundation.org) | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6ap | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon & AMDGPU DRM Drivers Get More Changes | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux 4.5 https://t.co/19buHM917L | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6aq | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Rolls Out Useful Linux Updates For TF2 & | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CS:GO https://t.co/osz4Bu6BGK | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6ar | Jan 08 11:23 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HardwareNewz favourited 'Valve Rolls Out Useful Linux Updates For TF2...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remember Google’s Project Tango? Now Lenovo Is | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Making The First Tango Smartphone | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jZ4B99OtOn (fossbytes.com) | Jan 08 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6as | Jan 08 11:23 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet Chirimen, a Firefox OS-Powered IoT Single-Board Computer...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parted Magic 2016_01_06 Live CD Gets Support for...' | Jan 08 11:23 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75 | Jan 08 11:36 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Watch: GNOME Desktop Environment Makes Appearance in Justin...' | Jan 08 11:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines In memory of Ian #Murdock | Jan 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/dDi0oNFUoF (www.techzim.co.zw) | Jan 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @amayita “loss of Ian Murdock is still making the | Jan 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | headlines” https://t.co/pu3axgLIxu | Jan 08 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ostatic.com) | Jan 08 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | In memory of Ian Murdock - TechzimTechzim | Jan 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6de | Jan 08 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Debian Domination, Unstable Fedora, Simple Elementary | Jan 08 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Blackphone Security Woes | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9KL1HjJcg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6dz | Jan 08 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blackphone Security Woes | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mH7BW1nlLG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6e0 | Jan 08 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/YQ6hRyupTZ | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6e1 | Jan 08 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:09 | |
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| schestowitz | > Hey, | Jan 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz | > First Happy New Year 2016! | Jan 08 12:23 |
| schestowitz | > opposing the Amazon Gift patent. | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > We got a nice phone call and email from the EPO saying we have to pay | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > for a translator, while other people with German or French would not | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > have to pay for simultaneous translations during oral proceedings. | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > I will try to forward you the mails, it was hilarious. | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | > Best, | Jan 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Sounds great. A lot of this is FANTASTIC ammo against the UPC at this time. The EPO's management VERY much wants the UPC to pass, but we can definitely derail it. | Jan 08 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/BZbnGpbgxz | Jan 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6ha | Jan 08 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mozilla Security https://t.co/NBedOix8nM | Jan 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6hb | Jan 08 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Security | Tux Machines | Jan 08 12:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ThatguyDavy favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Ship with PHP 7,...' | Jan 08 13:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update...' | Jan 08 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Jan 08 14:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hfKwMgH0Ec (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 14:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe6oo | Jan 08 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Tux Machines | Jan 08 14:15 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jan 08 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6951241 | Jan 08 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why bas #joindiaspora gotten so quiet? Troubling, as #twitter has gone rather nasty as of late, trying to be more and more like #facebook | Jan 08 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Over the years, a lot of interesting people have come here and said it was too quiet and then left. If they all had stayed, there would be quite of few of them here. Self fulfilling prophesy. Folks should just hang in there for a while and it will work." | Jan 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I know some of these people. Same thing happened to identica (Twitter substitute, D* being the FB sub) | Jan 08 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeFileSync 7.8 Has Been Released, Install In | Jan 08 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint Or Other Derivatives Distros | Jan 08 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ll4E1AJGAV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 08 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe7gy | Jan 08 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeFileSync 7.8 Has Been Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint Or Other Derivatives Distros | Tux Machines | Jan 08 18:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Shield Android TV Gets Marshmallow | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Treat, New Games And More: Here's The Deal | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pSGj68GUYN (www.techtimes.com) | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oe7l3 | Jan 08 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Nvidia Shield Android TV Gets Marshmallow Treat, New Games And More: Here's The Deal [Video] : CES 2016 : Tech Times | Jan 08 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gUIEdJg9tb (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | 2016: Best Android tablets for work and play | ZDNet | Jan 08 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ymv8kdGHFi (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS | Jan 08 18:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685535727573073920 | Jan 08 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz KDE is a nice achievement in the way of graphical achievements, but it's a steaming turd when you look at size and bloat | Jan 08 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685536166003646464 | Jan 08 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @TheRegister that article is absolute shite. Read the comment by jillesvangurp for something more reasonable | Jan 08 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | Note that I didn't say it was a good article. Microsoft Gavin's spin. | Jan 08 19:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685536505704497152 | Jan 08 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz how do you keep track of all the research you do? Databases? Applications? Sticky notes? | Jan 08 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | Refined workflow over the past decade | Jan 08 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review | Jan 08 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9FFj5nyXot (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel | Jan 08 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source https://t.co/jbUoBAaw06 | Jan 08 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review - Phoronix | Jan 08 19:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smackerelofopinion.blogspot.com | A Smackerel of Opinion: FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel source | Jan 08 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/tod1r6EUFt | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 08 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685537000682737664 https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685537248268259328 | Jan 08 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz I tried to contribute to KDE once. Didn't know where to start, hundreds of intermingled libs and apps. Sticking to tiling wm | Jan 08 19:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @TheRegister yeah, I was just pointing that out for the benefit of others :) | Jan 08 19:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/685537427264417792 | Jan 08 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Names Names...? cc: @Snowden @HelpSnowden | Jan 08 19:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/685539740729225216 | Jan 08 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz have you tried @Docear_org at all? That's come in quite handy for a few projects and assignments | Jan 08 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | Not sure if it's suited for my personal workflow and routines, might give it a go this weekend | Jan 08 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gregsfortytwo/status/685543251080835072 | Jan 08 19:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gregsfortytwo: @schestowitz @ircolle that’s why Marshals exist, to enforce court rulings? Of all the system’s sins, shutting down infringing show ain’t one | Jan 08 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | Was a judge there to rule on the case? Of do Marshals just raid a show and decide to shoot first, ask question later? #ces #patents | Jan 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Was a judge there to rule on the case? Was there already a case with court orders? | Jan 08 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Or do Marshals just raid a show and decide to shoot first, ask question later? #ces #patents | Jan 08 19:30 |
| schestowitz | *questions | Jan 08 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review | Jan 08 19:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.5: The Quintessential 2016 Review | Tux Machines | Jan 08 19:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Drupal News https://t.co/v6zNYjj2vY | Jan 08 19:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Drupal News | Tux Machines | Jan 08 19:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How students can get started contributing to | Jan 08 19:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source software https://t.co/ZnL1E16Gzs | Jan 08 19:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How students can get started contributing to open source software | Tux Machines | Jan 08 19:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Get the Option of | Jan 08 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updating Firmware Directly from the OS | Jan 08 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/t8OHW6lhzF (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Might Get the Option of Updating Firmware Directly from the OS | Jan 08 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New details begin to emerge around Linux Mint | Jan 08 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 18 https://t.co/oBW3oR1OKR (www.neowin.net) | Jan 08 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.neowin.net/news/exciting-details-begin-to-emerge-around-linux-mint-18http://www.itproportal.com/2016/01/08/details-upcoming-linux-mint-18-os-leaked-online/ ) | Jan 08 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly | Jan 08 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reduces Memory Usage on Linux | Jan 08 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Y88CoFrTWd (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly Reduces Memory Usage on Linux | Jan 08 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Goodbye, #Debian 8.1 https://t.co/Ri8i6PuV3J | Jan 08 20:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk | The Linux Works: Goodbye, Debian 8.1 | Jan 08 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule and Features | Jan 08 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Revealed https://t.co/9zW5knVtqK | Jan 08 20:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Release Schedule and Features Revealed | Jan 08 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs $15, | Jan 08 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raises 30 Times the Money Needed | Jan 08 20:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs $15, Raises 30 Times the Money Needed | Jan 08 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Augmented reality helmet moves to Skylake, | Jan 08 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RealSense, Linux https://t.co/m57YZxTCNU | Jan 08 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 08 20:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Augmented reality helmet moves to Skylake, RealSense, Linux · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 08 20:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sorry BlackBerry 10 fans: 2016 is the year of | Jan 08 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android when it comes to new phones | Jan 08 20:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RDbFJNZxq1 (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 08 20:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Sorry BlackBerry 10 fans: 2016 is the year of Android when it comes to new phones | ZDNet | Jan 08 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @imdoneIO favourited 'FIXME and TODO comments in the Linux kernel...' | Jan 08 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better | Jan 08 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arm, Hands and Glove Models | Jan 08 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VUV01N66GB (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better Arm, Hands and Glove Models | Jan 08 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Spotted on a Raspberry Pi 2-Powered | Jan 08 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4K DIY Magic Mirror https://t.co/tGlbwOK8oY | Jan 08 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 08 20:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE Spotted on a Raspberry Pi 2-Powered 4K DIY Magic Mirror | Jan 08 20:33 | |
| schestowitz | > That's cool helping out as sysadmin. I would love to do that since | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > that's how you relieve organizations that need the help without paying | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > third party services. I do help people migrating to Linux and OS. I | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > think the best thing is giving people choice not to be ripped off by big | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > corporations. | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > That's one of the reasons I help you out. It pisses me off how these big | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > corportions backed by some governments have give their backs to the | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > people they supposed to serve, take control of judiciary systems and the | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > apparatus of the state to enrich themselves more, meanwhile the regular | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > people like us, gets srewed up! | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | > OK buddy keep up the good work! | Jan 08 20:36 |
| schestowitz | In daily links in Techrights I cover many news bits that relate to it. I'm hoping that not only FOSS and patents will be the focus we have. It does seem to have a seriously noticeable effect on decision makers these days. | Jan 08 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical needs a firm direction for Ubuntu | Jan 08 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zkSTGMiITI (www.chris-shaw.com) | Jan 08 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.chris-shaw.com/b/Canonical-needs-a-firm-direction-for-Ubuntu ) | Jan 08 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Software Center Just Got a Massive Update...' | Jan 08 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Team Fortress 2 Gets Update That Significantly Reduces...' | Jan 08 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PINE A64, First 64-bit Mini PC That Costs...' | Jan 08 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Gets Better Arm, Hands and...' | Jan 08 20:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 8/1/2016: Polaroid, Freetel Android | Jan 08 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices, More From CES https://t.co/NAL8r2e3FJ | Jan 08 22:12 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 09 00:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GTK+ 3.19.6 https://t.co/6z6vokI66D | Jan 09 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GTK+ 3.19.6 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle Linux, DBMS https://t.co/1CY9DTLkWR | Jan 09 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle Linux, DBMS | Tux Machines | Jan 09 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UGet 2.0.4 Released, One Of The Lightest | Jan 09 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download Managers For Linux | Jan 09 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/COrCR48x9x (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UGet 2.0.4 Released, One Of The Lightest Download Managers For Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 09 09:21 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: is that a usa thing with the PVR from Cable/Satellite companies. Australian Sat/cable tv provided PVR are not sold but rented to you as long as keep subscribtion. So end subscription the device has to go back. | Jan 09 09:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EdSnowdenNews/status/685772980572430336 | Jan 09 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EdSnowdenNews: Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - ... https://t.co/3ZeYrAAgUD via @schestowitz https://t.co/OJ3vD7Tdq4 | Jan 09 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> gettopical.com | Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - NY Daily News | Jan 09 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EdSnowdenNews: Edward Snowden makes appearance at CES via Beam robot - ... https://t.co/3ZeYrAAgUD via @schestowitz https://t.co/OJ3vD7Tdq4 | Jan 09 10:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Platform https://t.co/Vh012dfMXZ | Jan 09 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile Platform | Tux Machines | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Platform https://t.co/ECnmjCKhNt | Jan 09 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knowyourmobile.com | Android Marshmallow Review: The Best Mobile Platform: Prices, Specifications, Reviews | Know Your Mobile | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | video · https://t.co/3OCx16fYf1 | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (LinuxGizmos.com) https://t.co/lm5PjE6b13 | Jan 09 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines | Jan 09 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinuxGizmos.com | LinuxGizmos: embedded Linux news & devices | Jan 09 11:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | $149 drone plane runs Linux and streams 30fps video · LinuxGizmos.com | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Gets New Unity 8, Indicator...' | Jan 09 11:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Studio 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Wallpaper Contest...' | Jan 09 11:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List...' | Jan 09 11:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/685775696090775552 | Jan 09 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Nice try ! ;-) | Jan 09 11:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6953293 | Jan 09 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rump is a liar. Calls a 2000-people crowd "25,000" and blocks everyone not abhorrent like him http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/01/07/trump-campaign-lumbers-into-vermont/78375274/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin= | Jan 09 12:01 | |
| schestowitz | "he is remarkably embarrassing" | Jan 09 12:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.burlingtonfreepress.com | Latest: Trump crowd estimated at 2,000, plus protests [ http://ur1.ca/oeafa ] | Jan 09 12:01 | |
| schestowitz | But many people still support him... | Jan 09 12:01 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/07/social-justice-warriors-wreaking-havoc-in-open-source-software/ | Jan 09 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.breitbart.com | Social Justice Warriors Wreaking Havoc In Open Source [ http://ur1.ca/oeajo ] | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > - | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > "The addition of Shuttleworth only adds to what is already an | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > impressive lineup. Other keynoters on tap are Cory Doctorow who’ll be | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > giving a talk called “No Matter Who’s Winning the War on General Purpose | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > Computing, You’re Losing,” and Sarah Sharp..." | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > http://fossforce.com/2016/01/shuttleworth-at-scale-google-rolls-over-more/ | Jan 09 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Shuttleworth at SCALE, Google Rolls Over & More… | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/oeajq ] | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:10 |
| schestowitz | > ... :/ | Jan 09 13:11 |
| schestowitz | > old: | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html | Jan 09 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-valerieaurora.org | Lifetimes of cryptographic hash functions | Jan 09 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > == | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > older: | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:18 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.techinsider.io/cyberattack-blackout-ukraine-2016-1 | Jan 09 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techinsider.io | Cyberattack blackout in Ukraine - Tech Insider | Jan 09 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > Russia only partially to blame. At the end of the day, M$ is and | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > whoever signed off on running M$ product inside a mission-critical | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | > environment. Using M$ wastes resources and lives. | Jan 09 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Do we know for sure is MS was used there? Can you research this? If Microsoft was in there, it's a worthwhile article to prepare. | Jan 09 13:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Steam Beta Client Update Has More Steam...' | Jan 09 13:19 | |
| schestowitz | > "it's alpha software), but it's worth checking out." | Jan 09 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 09 13:28 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/non-linux-foss-open-source-windows | Jan 09 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Non-Linux FOSS: Open-Source Windows? | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/oeakz ] | Jan 09 13:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Od6IE5ykTn (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 15:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stellarium 0.14.2 Open Source Planetarium Software Gets List of Dwarf Galaxies | Tux Machines | Jan 09 15:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/kzYJrfH6wd | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 15:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeasz | Jan 09 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 09 15:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Announcement https://t.co/CsttrNHTVz | Jan 09 15:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 15:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Announcement | Tux Machines | Jan 09 15:17 | |
| MinceR | http://www.wired.com/2016/01/new-discovery-around-juniper-backdoor-raises-more-questions-about-the-company/ | Jan 09 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | New Discovery Around Juniper Backdoor Raises More Questions About the Company | WIRED | Jan 09 15:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emulation and Windows https://t.co/9HpVfJDYar | Jan 09 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 09 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulation and Windows | Tux Machines | Jan 09 16:56 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Jan 09 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: hi | Jan 09 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: YAY I bought Macafee yesterday, and I am not joking | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | the company? | Jan 09 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I am rich enough to buy the whole company | Jan 09 17:39 |
| MinceR | along with the rest of intel? | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no one of there products seriously | Jan 09 17:40 |
| MinceR | what for? | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | good question | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | why would I buy Macafee | Jan 09 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I had a choice get something earlier and buy a Macafee product as well, or wait about two weeks possibly | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | pay a little more having Macafee to | Jan 09 17:41 |
| MinceR | why get any of them? | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I wanted offical re install discs for Windows 10 | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | from HP | Jan 09 17:41 |
| MinceR | ew | Jan 09 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | they won't give those for my lap top, but they give Windows 8.1 discs | Jan 09 17:42 |
| MinceR | can't vista10 make recovery media? | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | I could have made my own sure, but | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: there is a recovery mode, but I think I might have some malware in there | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | since I got some baasically random program of the net before which was a bit silly | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | so rather just do a proper clean install | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | then can upgrade to 10 later | Jan 09 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am going to Linux my lap top proeprly after that | Jan 09 17:43 |
| MinceR | of course you have some malware in there | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | or uh try to, not sure how to get Grub coming up first! silly UEFI | Jan 09 17:43 |
| MinceR | it's called "windows" | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: what Windows | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | heh | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | thought you would put that | Jan 09 17:43 |
| MinceR | vista10, now more malicious than ever | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am not happy about the money I spent yesterday really | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but yese those discs were not cheap | Jan 09 17:43 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly Microsoft asked OEM's not to just give them away like before as well | Jan 09 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | since something to do with the machines being tied to the motherboard or whateer now to. the OS, the product key etc and then how there could be issues after woulds | Jan 09 17:44 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: occassiaonly need Windows for some program | Jan 09 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | but yeah in general it sucks | Jan 09 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | WIndows itself sucks | Jan 09 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well two years subscrition for some sucky Macafee product, that also works on phones, and my discs should come by like Wednsesday next week | Jan 09 17:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: apparantly Windwos 10 spys on peopole more yeah, if that's what you meant | Jan 09 17:48 |
| MinceR | not only that | Jan 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | it also has more botnet-like behavior | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | botnet like heaviour how so? | Jan 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | and the "upgrade" to it involves less consent from users than before | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and you can't just downagrde back after a month to | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | after doing that | Jan 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | p2p distribution of updates, mandatory installation of updates without opt-out in most versions | Jan 09 17:49 |
| sebsebseb | ah yeah the forced updates thing, but that's to make sure peopoe install security updats | Jan 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | so you don't get to disable the backdoor that executes arbitrary code | Jan 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | and it tries to get around your firewall with p2p tech | Jan 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | yeah yeah, there are always excuses for everything | Jan 09 17:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: there's no actsaul features in 10 that are worth it so far from what I have seen | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | multiple desktops is the best feature so far | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: so I may just hold out on 8.1 a bit longer | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | it wasn't on here for long before upgrading | Jan 09 17:51 |
| MinceR | X11 had multiple desktops for ages | Jan 09 17:51 |
| sebsebseb | yes it's a long over due feature that Linux and Mac had for ages | Jan 09 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | that's why it's good to they finally got it | Jan 09 17:52 |
| MinceR | macos didn't get it right though, afaik | Jan 09 17:54 |
| MinceR | and probably neither did winblows | Jan 09 17:54 |
| sebsebseb | the one in 10 is just very basic so far | Jan 09 17:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 best action games for Android! | Jan 09 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | 10 best action games for Android! - Android Authority | Jan 09 18:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 terrific Android apps you won’t find on any | Jan 09 18:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Best Android exclusive apps: Download 7 apps not found on the iPhone | BGR | Jan 09 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JArthur52694602/status/685895188372402176 | Jan 09 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JArthur52694602: when a spoof video can b made w/o twisting the words u know its bad: https://t.co/nF7SjXlMor https://t.co/wv6Lg70nsB | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Gov. Paul Lepage White Girls Heroin D-Money Trap Remix by Spose - YouTube | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Our racist imbecile of a governor Paul #LePage is making news again for projectile vomiting moronic words" https://t.co/Q9mPF8nDUU | Jan 09 18:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Launches OpenShift v3.1, Full of | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | Red Hat Launches OpenShift v3.1, Full of Docker/Kubernetes Goodness - DZone Integration | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Improving my Gtk and Music knowledge | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnome programme for attracting female | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jordanaluft.com | Improving my Gtk and Music knowledge – Jordana Luft | Jan 09 19:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Durga_Karma The Michael Daily News by | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | publiziert! https://t.co/vGlroqR7ZA (paper.li) | Jan 09 19:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vielen Dank an @ATastyHike @tuxmachines | Jan 09 19:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/685901692265627648 | Jan 09 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz The #Problem_with_Penguins: Too many species, &, they have religious ideas. @SwiftOnSecurity:That's a Double-Oxford, my dear. | Jan 09 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685787177603743744 | Jan 09 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: As a resident of the Munich area I must point out that Oktoberfest rapes are NOT comparable to #koelnhbf https://t.co/S4fSZxWZ83 #rapefugees | Jan 09 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.faz.net | Die Übergriffe in Köln und falsche Zahlen von der Wiesn | Jan 09 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685798450852708352 | Jan 09 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: High-profile conservative politician proposes that his party leave the German coalition government over #rapefugees https://t.co/mfFk4cV6tD | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@welt: Flüchtlingskrise: Gauweiler legt CSU Austritt aus Koalition nahe https://t.co/TYyd9QfL9s https://t.co/SaOSnKu7T6 | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/685799663245619200 | Jan 09 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @flueke He gets attention, that's what I meant. Profile is not the same as power. | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| cubexyz | ok oiaohm | Jan 09 19:33 |
| cubexyz | put the sata/ide card in the P3 | Jan 09 19:33 |
| cubexyz | so I can enter the world of sata drives now :) | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubexyz | sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubexyz | probably the only IDE thing the store still sold | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubexyz | only problem now... no more molex connectors :-/ | Jan 09 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hp5iK9InUr (blog.linuxmint.com) | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | kde also: https://t.co/nPUS7nfk0z | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.linuxmint.com) probably best distro | Jan 09 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | around | Jan 09 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 19:50 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE released! | Jan 09 19:50 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/685906677695119361 | Jan 09 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents If I was a member of the fugees I would be rather worried. Shocking the reaction of the German police. | Jan 09 20:10 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Jan 09 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unvanquished Kicks Off 2016 With Yet Another | Jan 09 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unvanquished Kicks Off 2016 With Yet Another Alpha - Phoronix | Jan 09 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Jan 09 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce released! | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source as a Driver of Internet of Things | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source as a Driver of Internet of Things | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New AMDGPU Details & Looking Forward To Major | Jan 09 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Radeon Linux Improvements In 2016 | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMDGPU Details & Looking Forward To Major Radeon Linux Improvements In 2016 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 | Jan 09 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0 "Stretch", Xfce 4.12.1 and Linux Kernel 4.3 | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Surveys | Tux Machines | Jan 09 21:47 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'DebEX Barebone Distro is Based on Debian 9.0...' | Jan 09 22:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 | Jan 09 22:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 » TechWorm | Jan 09 22:10 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/texas-governor-wants-add-nine-new-amendments-constitution | Jan 09 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | Texas Governor Wants to Add 9 New Amendments to the Constitution | Mother Jones | Jan 09 22:24 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952378 | Jan 09 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Because "terrorism". Sure, sure... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/white-house-silicon-valley-meeting-terrorism-social-media-facebook-twitter-microsoft-youtube-apple http://www.firstpost.com/world/white-house-us-tech-giants-push-to-make-internet-use-harder-for-terror-groups-2576540.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3020322/fbi-nsa-seek-tech-firms-help-in-war-on-terror-at-silicon-valley-mee | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Asking Silicon Valley to 'disrupt' terrorists is tech talk for 'surveillance' | Trevor Timm | Opinion | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/oec4s ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | "More need for Diaspora. I imagine the Google people are going as an anchor, but do they have anything about this on their company blog? If they care, they should be screaming." | Jan 09 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.firstpost.com | White House, US tech giants push to make internet use harder for terror groups - Firstpost [ http://ur1.ca/oec4t ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | FBI, NSA seek tech firms' help in war on terror at Silicon Valley meeting | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oec4u ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fortune.com | FBI Chief, U.S. Attorney General Visit Silicon Valley - Fortune [ http://ur1.ca/oec4v ] | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952472 | Jan 09 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Goodbye, #Debian 8.1 http://thelinuxworks.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/goodbye-debian-81.html #gnu #linux | Jan 09 22:59 | |
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