IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 10th, 2016-January 16th, 2016

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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952416	Jan 10 06:00
schestowitz	"Oh, now I’m not sure. If it were just a problem for the Windows port, I would not mind so much. I’m afraid it bleeds back to gnu/linux. I’ll have to dig deeper."	Jan 10 06:00
schestowitz	That's good..	Jan 10 06:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6954332	Jan 10 06:00
schestowitz	"looks good ;)"	Jan 10 06:00
schestowitz	Just in time for Vista 10 refugees...	Jan 10 06:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 http://www.techworm.net/2016/01/best-features-linux-mint-18.html #linuxmint #gnu #linux		Jan 10 06:00
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MinceR	vista10 refugees to lendows or to gnu/linux?	Jan 10 07:46
MinceR	they can get the brokenness they got used to from redhat	Jan 10 07:46
oiaohm	MinceR: You might not like systemd but at least a redhat system is not logging and reporting all usage activity to outside source.	Jan 10 07:52
MinceR	how do you know?	Jan 10 07:53
MinceR	also, what makes you think that won't change?	Jan 10 07:53
oiaohm	MinceR: network traffic.	Jan 10 07:53
oiaohm	MinceR: Redhat to operate in air gapped networks for USA Mil and other Mil cannot be sending huge stacks of crap home.	Jan 10 07:54
oiaohm	MinceR: redhat biggest customer is Mil.	Jan 10 07:54
MinceR	maybe it only sends data when the nsa knocks	Jan 10 07:54
MinceR	oiaohm: that sort of stuff didn't stop the nsa from poisoning the stuff they use themselves	Jan 10 07:54
oiaohm	Not at all. NSA and USA navy don't get alone.	Jan 10 07:55
oiaohm	along.	Jan 10 07:55
oiaohm	MinceR: you think systems controling nuke weapons would you let anyone have backdoors including the NSA.	Jan 10 07:56
oiaohm	MinceR: biggest deployment of redhat Linux systems in a single unfied system is controling the USA nuke weapon subs and land bases.	Jan 10 07:58
oiaohm	MinceR: for some reason Microsoft Windows is not trusted todo ath.	Jan 10 07:58
oiaohm	ath that.	Jan 10 07:58
MinceR	i think the nsa has gone rogue	Jan 10 08:00
MinceR	and redhat is assisting them, for money and favors	Jan 10 08:00
oiaohm	MinceR: redhat use to assist NSA. But when it came out NSA was backdooring encryption systems particular ones the USA Navy need there was a huge cat fight.	Jan 10 08:01
MinceR	so you think pushing a hotbed of vulnerabilities to most formerly gnu/linux systems does not assist the nsa	Jan 10 08:02
oiaohm	MinceR: NSA is such a small customer and USA Navy is a big customer to Redhat. You can guess what one wines.	Jan 10 08:02
MinceR	?	Jan 10 08:02
MinceR	the one that can threaten them with more	Jan 10 08:02
oiaohm	The reason behind systemd is to make cgroup secuirty and other featues standard.	Jan 10 08:02
MinceR	yeah, right	Jan 10 08:02
MinceR	that's the excuse	Jan 10 08:02
oiaohm	Development mention of systemd has been completley wrong.	Jan 10 08:02
MinceR	and yet it doesn't justify most of their shitty "design" decisions	Jan 10 08:02
oiaohm	MinceR: Navy where using Huge docker and other deployments before systemd.	Jan 10 08:03
MinceR	but those were too reliable and too secure so they switched to lendows?	Jan 10 08:03
oiaohm	No	Jan 10 08:03
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oiaohm	At the time of systemd starting docker had a lot of issues too MinceR	Jan 10 08:03
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MinceR	or they already made the bad decision to contract redhat so they got cancerd anyway	Jan 10 08:04
oiaohm	MinceR: there was a stack of broken mess.	Jan 10 08:04
MinceR	oiaohm: there still is a stack of broken mess	Jan 10 08:04
oiaohm	Different broken mess.	Jan 10 08:04
MinceR	the fact that most of that stack is in pid1 and some of it is being pushed into the kernel doesn't make things any better	Jan 10 08:04
oiaohm	Level of broken mess really has not changed.	Jan 10 08:04
oiaohm	A proper IPC between cgroups could make things better MinceR	Jan 10 08:05
oiaohm	In fact a proper IPC so individular parts can register up in a single place would in fact help things.	Jan 10 08:06
MinceR	oiaohm: kdbus is not "a proper IPC"	Jan 10 08:06
oiaohm	kdbus was attempt to avoid reinventing well to add a proper IPC.	Jan 10 08:07
oiaohm	well/wheel.	Jan 10 08:07
oiaohm	Of course using dbus as a template really was not such a hot idea.	Jan 10 08:07
MinceR	no, it was an attempt to push crappy redhat code to everyone's kernel	Jan 10 08:07
MinceR	along with crappy redhat "design"	Jan 10 08:07
MinceR	and redhat security holes	Jan 10 08:07
oiaohm	Most of the security issues and the like in kdbus are also in dbus.	Jan 10 08:07
MinceR	of course	Jan 10 08:08
MinceR	dbus is shit, pushing it into the kernel would make it even worse	Jan 10 08:08
oiaohm	Lets take someone of poor quality then attempt to alter it is not a good move.	Jan 10 08:08
oiaohm	dbus need a redesign.	Jan 10 08:08
oiaohm	In fact still needs a redesign.	Jan 10 08:08
oiaohm	MinceR: The idea of dbus is right design is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus	Jan 10 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| D-Bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Jan 10 08:13
oiaohm	MinceR: redesigning dbus and putting it in kernel space is most likely correct to reduce over head and allow LSM/Cgroups/... provide control over dbus communication.	Jan 10 08:16
oiaohm	MinceR: Of course I am not going to say the kdbus attempt was correct.	Jan 10 08:17
MinceR	wrong.	Jan 10 08:18
MinceR	http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.3/02040.html	Jan 10 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 [ http://ur1.ca/k9c9o ]		Jan 10 08:18
MinceR	the overhead isn't where they believed it was	Jan 10 08:18
MinceR	and they didn't care enough to find out where it is, "just throw it into the kernel"	Jan 10 08:19
oiaohm	Sorry you are over reading. If you want to look to OS with correctly made IPC like dbus you are looking to Microkernels. Like QNX.	Jan 10 08:22
oiaohm	Yes the dbus userspace libraries are crap.	Jan 10 08:23
oiaohm	Some of that is hacking around userspace race conditions that is something that is preventable in kernal space.	Jan 10 08:23
oiaohm	MinceR: basically a percentage of dbus style IPC to function well needs kernel cooperation.	Jan 10 08:25
MinceR	"kernel cooperation" is not the same as "just throw the whole hairball into the kernel"	Jan 10 08:25
oiaohm	True wrong design model. kdbus developer went with throw the whole lot in kernel then trim back.	Jan 10 08:26
oiaohm	Ok that was how the Linux network stack was developed but that was 15+ years ago. Kernel develment methods have moved on.	Jan 10 08:27
oiaohm	bus1 what is the new attempt is trying to go as min as possible in kernel.	Jan 10 08:27
MinceR	i think you can see why i don't have a lot of confidence in bus1	Jan 10 08:28
oiaohm	bus1 design method is what kdbus should have used off the get go.	Jan 10 08:28
oiaohm	bus1 is also been a lot better commented than a lot of drivers and even kdbus. https://github.com/bus1/bus1/blob/master/ipc/bus1/active.c	Jan 10 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com \| bus1/active.c at master · bus1/bus1 · GitHub		Jan 10 08:30
oiaohm	MinceR: basically its looking like they have learnt from their lumps.	Jan 10 08:31
MinceR	i can't tell if they learned the minimum possible or enough to make them do it right this time	Jan 10 08:32
MinceR	but i don't think that Linus telling them to shove their shoddy crap can replace Software Engineering 101	Jan 10 08:32
MinceR	then again, if QA pretty much consists of the project leader noticing shit and stopping the merge, that doesn't give me a lot of confidence	Jan 10 08:33
MinceR	what are the others doing?	Jan 10 08:33
oiaohm	Remember what I said about structure.	Jan 10 08:34
oiaohm	when kdbus was first attempting to enter the Linux kernel it was only after staging listing.	Jan 10 08:34
oiaohm	So this lowers down the maintainer auditing level.	Jan 10 08:35
oiaohm	MinceR: please be aware mature drivers developed out of tree get to merge into the Linux kernel straight into mainline.	Jan 10 08:35
oiaohm	No need to go to staging directory area first.	Jan 10 08:35
MinceR	i wonder how mature those are	Jan 10 08:36
oiaohm	Anything sitting in the staging directory has something broken.	Jan 10 08:36
oiaohm	Now kdbus was that far broken it was not even acceptable for staging.	Jan 10 08:36
oiaohm	MinceR: Linus and Greg happen to be the two who decide what can enter staging. Linus has not appointed any extra maintainer to staging. Remember to reject takes two signs.	Jan 10 08:38
MinceR	and greg happens to sign off any crap that comes from retards like poettering and sievers and m$'s code monkeys	Jan 10 08:38
oiaohm	MinceR: to stall takes one.	Jan 10 08:38
oiaohm	Stall for review is all Linus could have done if he did not have Greg signing off on rejected as well.	Jan 10 08:39
MinceR	makes me seriously worried for the future of linux	Jan 10 08:40
oiaohm	MinceR: so like it or not both greg and linus end up voting against kdbus.	Jan 10 08:40
oiaohm	MinceR: remember its another round of approvals to leave staging.	Jan 10 08:40
oiaohm	This is why most of the hyper-v drivers are still stuck in staging.	Jan 10 08:40
oiaohm	and have not moved to mainline core locations.	Jan 10 08:40
oiaohm	MinceR: staging has other rules to remain. 1 is need. So if hyper-v or other staging drivers were not need for some operational reason by multi distrobutions they would be deleted and mandated to go out of mainline.	Jan 10 08:42
oiaohm	So with kdbus it so funny its not funny. kdbus got to the point where systemd had to function with kdbus so this means there was no need so even if it made it into staging it would have end up deleted again.	Jan 10 08:43
oiaohm	Result is bus1 most likely to enter Linux kernel this time will have to face full review and be mainline core quality.	Jan 10 08:44
oiaohm	MinceR: basically it does not pay to screw up with the Linux kernel first time around because second time will be many times harder.	Jan 10 08:45
MinceR	unless they unleash the crybullies at Linus	Jan 10 08:45
oiaohm	complain builling you have seen what that results in with Linus. Con Kolivas case	Jan 10 08:47
oiaohm	MinceR: basically really bad idea you attempt that your code can end up branded to be never merged.	Jan 10 08:48
oiaohm	Basically you presumed the systemd does not have punishments.	Jan 10 08:49
oiaohm	Screw up with kdbus means bus1 merge will be hard. Screw bus1 up and it might be their last role of dice.	Jan 10 08:49
oiaohm	MinceR: remember I told you about the systemd conference video. They admitted due to how hard the current entry process is to the Linux kernel is for them it might take them 5 years to even be able to put up merge request.	Jan 10 08:54
MinceR	so they'll have someone "independent" submit it	Jan 10 08:54
oiaohm	MinceR: does not work that way.	Jan 10 08:54
oiaohm	Others tried that in past.	Jan 10 08:54
oiaohm	One of those others was Con Kolivas	Jan 10 08:55
oiaohm	MinceR: so like or not things are not all going systemd way.	Jan 10 08:57
oiaohm	MinceR: in fact they gap is open for someone to ruin systemd day. If someone made a good IPC for cross cgroup/init control and got it merged due to the rule forbiding duplication features without need would lock out dbus1.	Jan 10 09:00
oiaohm	they/the	Jan 10 09:01
MinceR	assuming that such IPC is even necessary	Jan 10 09:01
MinceR	like the cancerd "feature" list	Jan 10 09:01
oiaohm	Reality such a IPC feature is necessary. docker and other also use userspace hacks that have issues attempting to work around same problem.	Jan 10 09:03
oiaohm	Really the systemd feature list you don't like that is so long right. MinceR	Jan 10 09:03
MinceR	also, the duplicate rule already failed	Jan 10 09:03
MinceR	hype-V virtio stuff got merged	Jan 10 09:04
MinceR	even though that was already done for qemu, iirc	Jan 10 09:04
oiaohm	Hyper-v drivers use a loop hole in the rules that don't apply to IPC or most other userspace things in Linux.	Jan 10 09:05
oiaohm	The loop hole that hyper-v drivers uses is why you have multi network card drivers and the like for real hardware.	Jan 10 09:06
MinceR	ridiculous	Jan 10 09:06
oiaohm	To interface with provided envorniment outside Linux clause is the only reason Hyper-v drivers got to merge.	Jan 10 09:06
oiaohm	MinceR: please note "Xen Project PVHVM drivers" with virtio before hyper-v drivers had already proving the case allow it.	Jan 10 09:08
oiaohm	MinceR: so hyper-v allowance is not a special case.	Jan 10 09:08
oiaohm	MinceR: there is no such allowance for duplication for items like cgroups or other IPCs in the Linux kernel to be provided to userspace. They must have unique features.	Jan 10 09:10
oiaohm	MinceR: there were 3 different implementations doing what cgroups did before cgroups was made and all the other 3 were exterminated.	Jan 10 09:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/686179558651990017	Jan 10 12:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/OscarALizarazo/status/686223049310531584	Jan 10 12:15
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eg0qWsT0tx (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 14:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| There Will Be Many Features Coming For PHP 7.1 - Phoronix		Jan 10 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data	Jan 10 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YZCxvsPO8y (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oef4t	Jan 10 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data		Jan 10 14:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/686268663897272321	Jan 10 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @Snowden @Thomas_Drake1 Original context of ~1862 "Lincoln Law" https://t.co/HQbskMoMzj		Jan 10 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @lmbrownlee1 USA Qui Tam covers a) corrupt official in b) conspiracy w/ c) contractor/supplier 2 d) pay public $ 4 defective goods/services.		Jan 10 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data	Jan 10 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/YZCxvsPO8y (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	@Cipherhouse	Jan 10 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oef8w	Jan 10 15:12
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data...'		Jan 10 15:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/qkM4ig4fg7	Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 16:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux phones https://t.co/QciYkyPvu5	Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 16:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux phones \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data	Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jvQEUGtx1F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefg6	Jan 10 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry Priv owners get Virtual Expert	Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	testing app for Android https://t.co/ICkc67Brdw	Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.technobuffalo.com)	Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefi4	Jan 10 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com \| BlackBerry Priv owners get Virtual Expert testing app for Android		Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Android apps you shouldn’t miss this week! –	Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	Android Apps Weekly https://t.co/k61QTb8JKi	Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefi5	Jan 10 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com \| 5 Android apps you shouldn't miss this week! - Android Apps Weekly - Android Authority		Jan 10 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 10 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes and Improvements https://t.co/cNErHr1uN9	Jan 10 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/N4aYbbsv9o	Jan 10 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of Fixes and Improvements		Jan 10 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefig	Jan 10 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| KDE Frameworks 5.18 Released With Numerous Additions - Phoronix		Jan 10 16:28
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of Fixes...'		Jan 10 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 10 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes and Improvements https://t.co/qGTlDItbpx	Jan 10 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefnw	Jan 10 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of Fixes and Improvements \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 17:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi	Jan 10 17:25
TweetTuxMachines	Hot Key https://t.co/M1drPmHfqR	Jan 10 17:25
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 10 17:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefqk	Jan 10 17:25
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key...'		Jan 10 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key \| Techrights		Jan 10 17:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/686313309038100480	Jan 10 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Never a better collection of Linux floss links unless @schestowitz 's twitter stream ;) https://t.co/cTUqUS1YXe		Jan 10 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key https://t.co/Ks7ulWMWqs #techrights		Jan 10 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/686313679718080513	Jan 10 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz ;)		Jan 10 17:29
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key...'		Jan 10 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 17:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 17:30
*TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key...'		Jan 10 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 10 17:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/97l0ojFsQd	Jan 10 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefv6	Jan 10 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/6NClFi1Yfw	Jan 10 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefv8	Jan 10 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/kfIMdu5G6Q	Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefwl	Jan 10 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/gpC5ZUI9cD	Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefwq	Jan 10 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv	Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oefwr	Jan 10 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv	Jan 10 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 10 18:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv'		Jan 10 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@The_Code_Shirts	Jan 10 19:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The	Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia	Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O1nZUsMkVH (torrentfreak.com)	Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegd1	Jan 10 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia - TorrentFreak		Jan 10 19:59
cubexyz	yeah the statement "authors must be paid" is a bit dubious	Jan 10 20:22
cubexyz	oh and the article is America-centric	Jan 10 20:23
cubexyz	what I find interesting is how stuff gets lost	Jan 10 20:24
cubexyz	silent films? 80% lost	Jan 10 20:25
cubexyz	FOSS stuff? Some of it has disappeared completely	Jan 10 20:25
cubexyz	there's so much stuff that hosters delete old stuff	Jan 10 20:26
cubexyz	regarding Wikipedia, I noticed Gates' Dad never talked about wikipedia but he sure talked about Encarta	Jan 10 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android smartphones with Force Touch:	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	available, upcoming, and rumored	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FQaTsdNxhY (www.phonearena.com)	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghe	Jan 10 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Android smartphones with Force Touch: available, upcoming, and rumored		Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windlands, a first person grappling hook	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	exploration game now on SteamOS & Linux	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eiXYmmkzWo (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghf	Jan 10 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Windlands, a first person grappling hook exploration game now on SteamOS & Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak may come to Linux	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	some day https://t.co/R45itMQvHe	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghg	Jan 10 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak may come to Linux some day \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 10 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2,	Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	Framework 5.17.0, and Apps 5.12.0	Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DHJx6SkKvJ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghr	Jan 10 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2, Framework 5.17.0, and Apps 5.12.0		Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC	Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	5.3.0 and Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS	Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4gdD2w4ABa (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghs	Jan 10 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| 4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC 5.3.0 and Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS		Jan 10 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MKVToolNix v8.8.0 released	Jan 10 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5G8gDgjEs5 (www.bunkus.org)	Jan 10 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeght	Jan 10 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunkus.org \| MKVToolNix v8.8.0 released « mosu's tips & news from the Matroska world		Jan 10 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.4 https://t.co/1DH6yBtTUW (lwn.net)	Jan 10 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Linux 4.4 [LWN.net]		Jan 10 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegi3	Jan 10 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Officially Released, Adds 3D Support in the Virtual GPU Driver		Jan 10 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview: Jono Bacon https://t.co/yTKTswq6V6	Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegi4	Jan 10 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/jono-bacon/ )		Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686	Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support	Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kz1aB39kGZ (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegi5	Jan 10 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686 Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support - Phoronix		Jan 10 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon	Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	Separated from the GNOME Stack	Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AZ2fWtOOCJ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegij	Jan 10 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated from the GNOME Stack		Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in	Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes	Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gqzucM9iPL (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegik	Jan 10 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes		Jan 10 20:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2, Framework 5.17.0,...'		Jan 10 20:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC...'		Jan 10 20:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux 4.4 https://t.co/1DH6yBtTUW https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW'		Jan 10 20:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated...'		Jan 10 20:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships...'		Jan 10 22:44
*TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686...'		Jan 10 22:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview: Jono Bacon https://t.co/9g9jq40SP7	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegws	Jan 10 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Interview: Jono Bacon \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/otz46JxOBc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegwt	Jan 10 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BM5iOS853R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegwu	Jan 10 22:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon	Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	Separated from the GNOME Stack	Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Uz6NdhViJA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeh0p	Jan 10 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated from the GNOME Stack \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in	Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes	Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bkqasAj7QA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeh0q	Jan 10 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 23:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686...'		Jan 10 23:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated...'		Jan 10 23:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships...'		Jan 11 01:19
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/686442947064250368	Jan 11 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: .@schestowitz @zoobab Only the technical solution of a technical problem is patent-eligible in Germany https://t.co/orGVuGEU8y #swpats		Jan 11 03:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/onlyatoms/status/686447170019569664	Jan 11 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlyatoms: @schestowitz @mashable but for "athletes" only? #newbalance		Jan 11 03:37
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schestowitz	Doubt it. marekting.	Jan 11 03:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/686458235449126912	Jan 11 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest @schestowitz @bardehleIP technical is a restatement of the same problem, dixit Jacob		Jan 11 03:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plan for 24 Fedora Design Suite	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4wQhiAmdC3 (blog.thefinalzone.net)	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oehqj	Jan 11 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.thefinalzone.net \| The Final Zone project: Plan for 24 Fedora Design Suite		Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 5 two-player split screen games for Android	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	phones and tablets https://t.co/Gth0iUojyR	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phonearena.com)	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oehqk	Jan 11 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Top 5 two-player split screen games for Android phones and tablets		Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio unveils Smart Outdoor Android smartwatch	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/r1QQbNRi2s (tech.firstpost.com)	Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oehql	Jan 11 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.firstpost.com \| Casio unveils Smart Outdoor Android smartwatch – Tech2		Jan 11 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry CEO John Chen Says BlackBerry 10 Far	Jan 11 03:56
TweetTuxMachines	From Dead, https://t.co/t1kMderyII	Jan 11 03:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.com)	Jan 11 03:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com \| BlackBerry CEO John Chen Says BlackBerry 10 Far From Dead, Second Android Device In The works		Jan 11 03:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau Gets Some Improvements For Linux 4.5	Jan 11 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Missteps Of The XOrg Foundation	Jan 11 06:44
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schestowitz	>>> >> http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265243-mega-donor-adelson-keeps-cruz-and-rubio-guessing	Jan 11 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com \| Vegas billionaire donor keeps GOP candidates guessing \| TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/oei4i ]		Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> corruption	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> ==	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-resume-scrutiny-of-arms-exports-to-saudi-arabia-a6805356.html	Jan 11 06:53
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> ==	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/01/10/sean-penn-intelligence-dangle/	Jan 11 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/01/10/sean-penn-intelligence-dangle/ )		Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> I guess Penn does not have long left now.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> -	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> old:	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/opinion/without-computer-security-sources-secrets-arent-safe-with-journalists.html?_r=0	Jan 11 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/oei5p ]		Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>>> >> Though Penn is not a journalist...	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>> >	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>> > Seen this early. I'm on emptywheel RSS.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	> Ok. I'll assume you'll see future post from her and won't forward more.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	> FWIW her RSS feed is now working again.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	There's some rubbish in that site, except the stuff about natsec. It's written by other people.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>> > You live and learn, I guess, and conclude who's a real journalist that	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>> > can be trusted.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	>> >	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	> There are few left and fewer coming in to replace the old ones. Same	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	> for IT. There are almost no IT people left anywhere any more.	Jan 11 06:53
schestowitz	They don't call themselves journalists. Salaried writers just have someone else's agency (he who pays).	Jan 11 06:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Linux 4.5., Graphics	Jan 11 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/cXgXGxqQKE	Jan 11 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks,	Jan 11 08:15
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 to Split OS from Regular Apps	Jan 11 08:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source licensing needs to grow up already	Jan 11 08:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O75SV9jxy7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 08:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best open source email security products	Jan 11 08:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/686541601699672064	Jan 11 08:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #LinuxMint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE Screenshot Tour	Jan 11 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New AMD CPUs To Support Power Monitoring With	Jan 11 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/RljPrjUGAx	Jan 11 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-Based XanMod Kernel Tests	Jan 11 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with	Jan 11 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Android phone soon	Jan 11 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/07HnFNeo5X (indiatoday.intoday.in)	Jan 11 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple is reportedly making it easier to switch	Jan 11 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	from iOS to #Android https://t.co/aslW2G9S37	Jan 11 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Jan 11 08:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 Beta Finally Released	Jan 11 08:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE News: Hardware problem: rsync opensuse	Jan 11 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	down https://t.co/5ieN6A9LCv	Jan 11 08:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks,	Jan 11 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 to Split OS from Regular Apps	Jan 11 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines redhat upgraded https://t.co/XyzlkMSgot	Jan 11 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Redmi 3 Is Xiaomi’s $100 Copy Of iPhone With A	Jan 11 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	Monster Battery https://t.co/89ERNgcJWP	Jan 11 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE Screenshot Tour	Jan 11 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/LnBJpvfaQ1	Jan 11 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Blob-Free GNU Linux-libre 4.4 Kernel Released	Jan 11 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's New In Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" KDE	Jan 11 10:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/686549361900191744	Jan 11 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Arduino Tian @schestowitz How do I add ethernet ports ? Or is it just USB ? Nothing else...		Jan 11 11:14
schestowitz	Better ask the vendor...	Jan 11 11:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/686558115865714689	Jan 11 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: oh no, pls. not. I always found Nokia very inflexible when I reported firnware bugs https://t.co/o1knn2xd9f		Jan 11 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with Android phone soon https://t.co/KpSWwag0yA after https://t.co/ii9OOF2xrf		Jan 11 11:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/686583116350230528	Jan 11 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Oh... Okay.. @schestowitz I'll do that....		Jan 11 11:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/686594279138013185	Jan 11 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz this means that Facebook and Google will be measuring how radical their users are and reporting/selling that to the government?		Jan 11 12:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical: One Billion People "Benefit from"	Jan 11 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/WflpgpHnZJ	Jan 11 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac	Jan 11 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	and Linux via Steam	Jan 11 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/1/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Tails 1.8.2	Jan 11 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora: The Latest	Jan 11 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/qCSdkY3OmP	Jan 11 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/IYkmP1mcn5	Jan 11 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/HLszMDxMqd	Jan 11 13:05
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MinceR	https://code.google.com/p/google-security-research/issues/detail?id=693	Jan 11 14:25
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg	Jan 11 14:59
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTqV1pnQoos	Jan 11 14:59
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MinceR	my species 'tis of thy members you're dying out	Jan 11 15:01
msb_	US Conservatives hate this book! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States	Jan 11 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| A People's History of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oek82 ]		Jan 11 15:01
msb_	MinceR: Not all members -- not you and not me. A small percentage of organized psychopaths are making war on everyone else.	Jan 11 15:04
MinceR	i didn't say "all", though	Jan 11 15:04
msb_	It's really only a few. But they have learned how to program many others.	Jan 11 15:05
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msb_	The existence of computer programming should make it easier for people to admit the existence of human programming. As computer experts, we should be able to help with this education.	Jan 11 15:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert/status/686618675605037061	Jan 11 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@daithaigilbert: Camilla Long after Michael Jackson died https://t.co/c3yKOMjRrW and Camilla Long today https://t.co/147OvoO231 https://t.co/J39QIkCUU6		Jan 11 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@camillalong: Listening to Earth Song. Weeping		Jan 11 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@camillalong: So many people "crying" or "in bits" over Bowie. FUCK YOU. You are not ten - you are an adult. Man the fuck up and say something interesting		Jan 11 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@daithaigilbert: Camilla Long after Michael Jackson died https://t.co/c3yKOMjRrW and Camilla Long today https://t.co/147OvoO231 https://t.co/J39QIkCUU6		Jan 11 15:55
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 11 15:59
abeNd-org	hola	Jan 11 16:00
*TweetTuxMachines @stefanmathez favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/qCSdkY3OmP'		Jan 11 16:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review	Jan 11 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/98rbB9DEbu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekif	Jan 11 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 16:15
abeNd-org	wtheck... as if email isnt spammy enough, now I am getting spam phone calls that look like they would be from down the street coming from india http://indiamobiletrace.com/9402222845.html	Jan 11 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indiamobiletrace.com \| Trace Results for 9402222845 Mobile		Jan 11 16:17
abeNd-org	voip is neat, but im getting 3-4 spam calls like this a day, getting to the point i don't even bother answering my phone unless it is a whitelist #	Jan 11 16:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project's Virtues Begin and End With	Jan 11 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	Stability https://t.co/oSL97HNwAv	Jan 11 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekka	Jan 11 16:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Firefox 43.0.4 Now Available for All	Jan 11 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/kscS1ulG8n	Jan 11 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekkc	Jan 11 16:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Firefox 43.0.4 Now Available for All Ubuntu...'		Jan 11 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel	Jan 11 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	phone designs https://t.co/ewtKM5O5YG	Jan 11 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekty	Jan 11 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel phone designs \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This	Jan 11 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	Friday, More New Features Landed	Jan 11 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WS21BaRY1V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeku2	Jan 11 17:55
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msb_	Too bad that abeNd-org ran off so quickly. I don't know if this anti-telemarketer system would work with his/her phone system, but it's been very effective with mine, reducing greedy psychopath calls from 3/day to 1/month. https://www.nomorobo.com/	Jan 11 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nomorobo.com \| Stop robocalls and telemarketers with Nomorobo		Jan 11 18:51
msb_	You set your phone account so incoming calls ring nomorobo's number as well as yours, and if it matches a POS in their database, they hang up the call after 0 or 1 ring. Very effective, and it's free!	Jan 11 18:54
msb_	It works on comcast voip phones and many others. Spread the word!	Jan 11 18:55
schestowitz	foss?	Jan 11 19:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This...'		Jan 11 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackArch Linux Provides Over 1330 Penetration	Jan 11 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Tools, New ISOs Out Now	Jan 11 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PB34auKBVv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oel9k	Jan 11 19:57
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'BlackArch Linux Provides Over 1330 Penetration Testing Tools,...'		Jan 11 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/1/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Tails 1.8.2	Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/0Gyail5RZQ (techrights.org)	Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelc9	Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel	Jan 11 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 11/1/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Tails 1.8.2 \| Techrights		Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	phone designs https://t.co/WL4bb2OqSF	Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 11 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oele6	Jan 11 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel phone designs · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 11 20:28
MinceR	https://engage.redhat.com/enterprise-mobility-tech-event-201512122215?sc_cid=701600000011krgAAA	Jan 11 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-engage.redhat.com \| Red Hat Technical Event Series \| Red Hat		Jan 11 20:30
MinceR	"Case study: How a transport company has revolutionised its business using mobility"	Jan 11 20:30
cubexyz	more windows 10 horror stories on slashdot :)	Jan 11 20:37
cubexyz	the end is near	Jan 11 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zDhmpLPuzP (www.linuxlookup.com)	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeley	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project's Virtues Begin and End With	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	Stability https://t.co/Cr0MTK78sE	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxinsider.com)	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgq	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	Friday, More New Features Landed	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/INg9oFhBgf (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgr	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackArch Linux Provides Over 1330 Penetration	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Tools, New ISOs Out Now	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/l30uzgdnTH (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgs	Jan 11 20:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This...'		Jan 11 20:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'BlackArch Linux Provides Over 1330 Penetration Testing Tools,...'		Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Research Online: Receiver with open software	Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	interface https://t.co/G41xCwdW9f	Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	(gpsworld.com)	Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgu	Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SCALE 14x https://t.co/8i69oPhwPi	Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgv	Jan 11 20:46
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cubexyz	the "get with the times" arguments about windows 10 are started to wear very thin	Jan 11 20:52
cubexyz	s/started/starting/	Jan 11 20:52
MinceR	well, these are dark times	Jan 11 20:52
MinceR	so in a way they're right	Jan 11 20:53
cubexyz	I'm reading about pro photographers going to Mint	Jan 11 20:53
MinceR	which sucks	Jan 11 20:54
cubexyz	it does? hmmmm	Jan 11 20:54
MinceR	it has cancerd	Jan 11 20:54
cubexyz	ok, I've never used it	Jan 11 20:54
MinceR	it has always been an ubuntu derivative with even more nonfree sw	Jan 11 20:54
MinceR	they also tried hacking up a debian derivative with more nonfree sw	Jan 11 20:54
cubexyz	ok, I knew that much	Jan 11 20:55
cubexyz	I just don't think we are going to see a mass exodus to the BSDs, not yet anyway	Jan 11 20:55
MinceR	i don't expect anything good anymore	Jan 11 20:55
MinceR	humanity will probably worship evil and stupidity even more, until it finally kills itself off	Jan 11 20:56
cubexyz	I tell people with multiple computers to try Linux or BSD	Jan 11 20:56
MinceR	just recently i was told on another channel that despite all the work they do to try and restrain vista10, it's so great and so secure	Jan 11 20:57
MinceR	by people who also love their hypePhones	Jan 11 20:58
MinceR	crApple made closed platforms with backdoors cool and hip	Jan 11 20:58
MinceR	m$ is making botnets, malware and spyware hip and cool	Jan 11 20:58
MinceR	redcrap and their worshipers are following suit	Jan 11 20:59
MinceR	the fsf still supports cancerd	Jan 11 21:00
MinceR	i wonder when they'll reverse their stance on restricted boot	Jan 11 21:01
cubexyz	TRIOS Linux is based on debian jessie with OpenRC	Jan 11 21:05
MinceR	so you can expect half of the packages to be either blocked from being installed or to hijack the system on install	Jan 11 21:06
MinceR	(with the latter being more likely, of course)	Jan 11 21:06
MinceR	for all the drivel earlier (and even nowadays) about how viruses and other malware are bad and how you should protect yourself, this "industry" has sure grown to embrace the ways of the malware	Jan 11 21:06
MinceR	hypeOS, vista10, cancerd	Jan 11 21:07
cubexyz	slackware and their derivatives are systemd free (so far)	Jan 11 21:07
cubexyz	that might be the tipping point	Jan 11 21:08
cubexyz	it's the oldest active linux distro	Jan 11 21:08
MinceR	or they will be forced also	Jan 11 21:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jamie_love/status/686729645027389441	Jan 11 21:08
MinceR	or simply ratcrap will force more crap into the kernel and make it unusable	Jan 11 21:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/686730966786691072	Jan 11 21:08
MinceR	Volkerding didn't really make a stand against cancerd, just stated he'll avoid it if he can, iirc	Jan 11 21:08
MinceR	and of course it's possible that there simply won't be another release	Jan 11 21:09
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MinceR	https://archive.is/Kb1S3	Jan 11 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is \| Banishing 'Get Windows 10' nagware isn't as easy as you think \| InfoWorld		Jan 11 21:11
MinceR	also mentions AdBot (also known as Ed Bott) :>	Jan 11 21:11
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 11 21:11
cubexyz	I'm pretty happy with my lab setup	Jan 11 21:12
cubexyz	I have no iphone, no windows anything and no modern Red Hat	Jan 11 21:12
cubexyz	well technically I do run a couple of windows games via wine	Jan 11 21:13
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MinceR	apparently lusers don't mind	Jan 11 21:57
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cubexyz	Microsoft: Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders, when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies	Jan 12 01:15
cubexyz	Big Brother time	Jan 12 01:16
cubexyz	I mean, of course use Linux/BSD, can't believe that BSD isn't on the radar more	Jan 12 01:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection on Linux	Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8PF7jHQKRb (wccftech.com)	Jan 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac and Linux, System Specs Revealed		Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/D9vI97Jjcd (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection to Land on Linux on January 14		Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YO7wiVlcJ9	Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.develop-online.net)	Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lRFODZhxlZ (www.gamershell.com)	Jan 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.develop-online.net \| Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac and Linux via Steam \| Games industry press releases \| Develop		Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oembg	Jan 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamershell.com \| News: Medieval II: Total War Collection for Mac and Linux Coming to Steam, Trailer Released		Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War https://t.co/BMbQ0YI69O	Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Medieval II: Total War \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oembh	Jan 12 02:42
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cubexyz	msb, looks like .mn was blocked off	Jan 12 03:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/OvuDl58XUh (error)	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlm	Jan 12 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's unique about open source people	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q4tJrxYW9B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemln	Jan 12 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| What's unique about open source people \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	Support, Media Controls in Task Manager	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0nZekzyIpG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlo	Jan 12 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support, Media Controls in Task Manager \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Development https://t.co/jjYGdfwH5L	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlp	Jan 12 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Tizen in Devices https://t.co/owLhmj5zcw	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlq	Jan 12 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Latest Tizen in Devices \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 05:02
msb_	cubexyz: "msb, looks like .mn was blocked off" Is the significance of this that it was one of the domains used by Pirate Bay? Well, they're using a new one. You're gonna live this: https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-switches-on-new-ms-domain-160107/	Jan 12 05:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| The Pirate Bay Switches on New .MS Domain - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/oempf ]		Jan 12 05:47
msb_	live-> love	Jan 12 05:47
msb_	torrentfreak is the place to go to find info on subjects like this	Jan 12 05:51
msb_	Even poor cancer-ridden Linux gets a mention: https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-industry-rhetoric-ignores-the-existence-of-linux-and-wikipedia-011016/	Jan 12 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia - TorrentFreak		Jan 12 05:58
msb_	This Rick Falkvinge seems to be questioning the very foundation of capitalism. How dare he question the economic system that comfortably puts 99% of the world's wealth in the hands of the richest 0.1% of the people (if you can call those "people").	Jan 12 06:03
msb_	All sorts of interesting ideas here: https://falkvinge.net/	Jan 12 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net \| Falkvinge on Infopolicy - Discussions on civil liberties and information policy		Jan 12 06:04
cubexyz	hail hydra :)	Jan 12 06:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/xVaxTDgqHM	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr1	Jan 12 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Distros For Newcomers	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p93XUOEeX9 (www.datamation.com)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr2	Jan 12 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| Best Linux Distros For Newcomers - Datamation		Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Delayed Officially and Ubuntu Needs	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	Direction https://t.co/DW0x04FPaG (ostatic.com)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr5	Jan 12 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Fedora 24 Delayed Officially and Ubuntu Needs Direction		Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #redhat looks back at #containers (a concept	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	which its former staff created)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uGcHiGo1dr (rhelblog.redhat.com)	Jan 12 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhelblog.redhat.com \| Looking Back on Containers in 2015 – Red Hat Enterprise Linux Blog		Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr6	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to Be	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	Named “Krypton”	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gsuo9GFmL2 (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to Be Named "Krypton"		Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr7	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Investigating Solus 1.0 https://t.co/zFvLTy39XF	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	(distrowatch.com)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr8	Jan 12 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Jan 12 06:09
cubexyz	can't see how they could stop numeric ip address(es)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Likely Ship With #Golang 1.6	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0EqInGoua9 (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr9	Jan 12 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 24 Will Likely Ship With Golang 1.6 - Phoronix		Jan 12 06:10
msb_	Speaking of Linux, and in this case possibly noting an advantage of capitalism, I used to pay about $45 for a boxed set of SuSE Linux, shipped in from Germany, because it was so well crafted.	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 “Jarvis” Is the Last One, RCs	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	Will Soon Follow https://t.co/ZUtwQpNZlQ	Jan 12 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 "Jarvis" Is the Last One, RCs Will Soon Follow		Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemra	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	Support for GTK3, Many Bugfixes	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WoFo8TZVtC (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with Support for GTK3, Many Bugfixes		Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrb	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We Are The Dwarves, a real-time tactics game is	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	coming to Linux, and it looks awesome	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6NVGj02fBd (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrc	Jan 12 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| We Are The Dwarves, a real-time tactics game is coming to Linux, and it looks awesome \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Mini-STX motherboard and mini-PC pop up	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	at CES https://t.co/42WInTXGU8	Jan 12 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| First Mini-STX motherboard and mini-PC pop up at CES · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrd	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	Support, Media Controls in Task Manager	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/flNhQTxZCl (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemre	Jan 12 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support, Media Controls in Task Manager		Jan 12 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poll (ish): only one comment so far;	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	Which Linux distribution do you use?	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QD2jl30VF9 (opensource.com)	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrf	Jan 12 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com		Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	@ebot70 Top hashtags for @tuxmachines: #android	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	#androidx86 #consoleos #containers #gnome	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hS9x3LOuv8 (www.redaelli.org)	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemri	Jan 12 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redaelli.org \| EbotTwitter \| Matteo Redaelli		Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Upcoming Features of #Fedora 24 Linux, the	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	Alpha Build Arrives on March 1, 2016	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4soo9ZLiWL (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrj	Jan 12 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Upcoming Features of Fedora 24 Linux, the Alpha Build Arrives on March 1, 2016		Jan 12 06:11
msb_	I would gladly pay that much today for a well-supported up-to-date Linux distro whose maintainers swear that they will never adopt systemd.	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU Linux-libre, Free as in Freedo	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/in7bgHEcwS (www.fsfla.org)	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrk	Jan 12 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org \| ::[FSFLA]:: GNU Linux-libre project		Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.11 Release - 2016-01-11	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jzSwo6WkZ8 (www.gnucash.org)	Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrm	Jan 12 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnucash.org \| Free Accounting Software \| GnuCash		Jan 12 06:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	2016 with Hundreds of New Features	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gH26yW9Qir (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrn	Jan 12 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in 2016 with Hundreds of New Features		Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 years TeX Live in Debian	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQCnyraDOG (www.preining.info)	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemro	Jan 12 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info \| 10 years TeX Live in Debian \|		Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/imRqXGCMyE	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.seventeen.com)	Jan 12 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seventeen.com \| 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in 2016		Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrp	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Samsung Z1 Tizen 2.4, Firmware Available	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	to Download – Z130HDDU0COL6	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RQERNuuPQA (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrq	Jan 12 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| First Samsung Z1 Tizen 2.4, Firmware Available to Download - Z130HDDU0COL6 - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 06:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside Cyanogenmod https://t.co/PctjKJ2ODa	Jan 12 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/inside-cyanogenmod/ )		Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrr	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: “Note that you can write build system	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	implementations in Python or Vala now.”	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9VyfoHVYXe (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 12 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2016/01/12/build-panel/ )		Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrt	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung confirms 2015 Smart TVs to get Tizen	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	OTA update, No evolution kit update needed	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aTre3UI1U8 (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemru	Jan 12 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung confirms 2015 Smart TVs to get Tizen OTA update, No evolution kit update needed - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 06:13
msb_	IOW, Death to Hydra!	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vertu slapped a #Bentley logo on a mediocre	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	#Android phone and called it new	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ef3kNjd54p (www.theverge.com)	Jan 12 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Vertu slapped a Bentley logo on a mediocre Android phone and called it new \| The Verge		Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrv	Jan 12 06:13
*TweetTuxMachines @DawnAda88778275 favourited 'Vertu slapped a #Bentley logo on a mediocre...'		Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “The latest MirrorManager release (0.6.1) which	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	is active since 2015-12-17 in Fedora’s	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	infrastructure” https://t.co/PHHBWzTDtG	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	(lisas.de)	Jan 12 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lisas.de \| New MirrorManager2 features \| For external use only		Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemry	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With Real	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	Life” #IoT #Tizen https://t.co/hHJjO2Io4H	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With Real Life” #IoT #Tizen - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrz	Jan 12 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Won’t Make Moving to Android Any Easier	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/X0oo1f0mQE (fortune.com)	Jan 12 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortune.com \| Apple Won't Make Moving to Android Any Easier - Fortune		Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems3	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to stop pop-up ads on Android	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5u9qteih0Q (www.pcadvisor.co.uk)	Jan 12 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| How to stop pop-up ads on Android - How-To - PC Advisor		Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems4	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best new Android widgets (January 2016)	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kMN3Pe1zSr (www.phonearena.com)	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems5	Jan 12 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Best new Android widgets (January 2016)		Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Stock: This Chart Shows Just How	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	Powerful #Android Is	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1UXmJrbJbM	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.profitconfidential.com)	Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems8	Jan 12 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.profitconfidential.com \| Google Stock: This Chart Shows Just How Powerful Android Is		Jan 12 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines TP-Link outs three Android smartphones - Neffos	Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	C5L, C5, and C5 Max https://t.co/ZaTYLoxKmY	Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gsmarena.com)	Jan 12 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com \| TP-Link outs three Android smartphones - Neffos C5L, C5, and C5 Max - GSMArena.com news		Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems9	Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A build of GNOME from scratch	Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UZ9u6XDKO5 (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	“quite functional and fairly well integrated.”	Jan 12 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/tvb/2016/01/11/a-build-of-gnome-from-scratch/ )		Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsa	Jan 12 06:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU on Smartphones (part II)	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1L5VAN8bf5 (cascardo.info)	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsd	Jan 12 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cascardo.info \| GNU on Smartphones (part II)		Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GranitePhone interview details the only way to	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	make Android more secure	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rn1y0muZsT	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 12 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com \| GranitePhone interview details the only way to make Android more secure - Android Authority		Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemse	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines N for Nutella? Rumored Features for Android N	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	Appear https://t.co/4cbBJE3fS0	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 12 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| N for Nutella? Rumored Features for Android N Appear \| Androidheadlines.com		Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsf	Jan 12 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux"	Jan 12 06:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nhKx5USSVL	Jan 12 06:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.maketecheasier.com)	Jan 12 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.maketecheasier.com/switch-windows-10-to-linux/ )		Jan 12 06:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsu	Jan 12 06:18
*TweetTuxMachines @glanceclock favourited 'Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With...'		Jan 12 06:18
cubexyz	I hate these articles that basically say Linux == Ubuntu	Jan 12 06:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	Years, Here's What's New	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qLxqj9EAzz (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtk	Jan 12 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in Years, Here's What's New		Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Investigating Solus 1.0 https://t.co/E8JdsBmZI3	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtl	Jan 12 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Investigating Solus 1.0 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Reviewed, Arch Still Ahead, & Reasons to	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	Switch https://t.co/TcALrHX94b	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtn	Jan 12 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus Reviewed, Arch Still Ahead, & Reasons to Switch \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Distros For Newcomers	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JsFxOc39Mj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemto	Jan 12 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Linux Distros For Newcomers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 06:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux	Jan 12 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6pWVZp4TxS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtp	Jan 12 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 06:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in	Jan 12 06:45
TweetTuxMachines	Years, Here's What's New	Jan 12 06:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y8FUrq2YRb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 06:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemul	Jan 12 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in Years, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 06:45
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited '8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to...'		Jan 12 06:45
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited 'Best Linux Distros For Newcomers https://t.co/JsFxOc39Mj'		Jan 12 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-Based Drones Upstage Other Mobile Gadgets	Jan 12 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	at CES https://t.co/OE4NoFwD4M (www.linux.com)	Jan 12 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemw0	Jan 12 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux-Based Drones Upstage Other Mobile Gadgets at CES \| Linux.com		Jan 12 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cgroup v2 Is To Be Made Official With Linux 4.5	Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PBsGkPsxAK (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemws	Jan 12 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Cgroup v2 Is To Be Made Official With Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Knights Landing Perf Support Comes To	Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/XttqSzfi6d	Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Intel Knights Landing Perf Support Comes To Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemwt	Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Neat drm/i915 stuff for 4.5	Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NhKAqNqYJ4 (blog.ffwll.ch)	Jan 12 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ffwll.ch \| stuff by danvet: Neat drm/i915 stuff for 4.5		Jan 12 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemwu	Jan 12 07:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/686892966326059008	Jan 12 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: LOL! That's why I want to switch my infra to @ibmpowerLinux / @IBMPowerSystems #POWER-based computing. #GNU/#Linux https://t.co/8SUKVFlDke		Jan 12 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel Skylake bug causes PCs to freeze during complex workloads https://t.co/g09ko8a6yj #intel is rubbish. https://t.co/KLQfuCTQKm		Jan 12 07:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Skylake Out, It's Becoming Easier To Build	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	A Cheap Haswell Xeon Linux System	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Wc6GgNVlyx (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1l	Jan 12 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| With Skylake Out, It's Becoming Easier To Build A Cheap Haswell Xeon Linux System - Phoronix		Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	Plans https://t.co/VqJunVoN63 (techrights.org)	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1m	Jan 12 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24 Plans \| Techrights		Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/7YAMmtrpul	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1p	Jan 12 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 08:02
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24 Plans...'		Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/U5QMMWYOHe	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2a	Jan 12 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/C5wNAPVXnw	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2k	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/gfeUIxhvGw	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2l	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/alr7nvzyes	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2m	Jan 12 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq	Jan 12 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen4m	Jan 12 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/7YAMmtrpul'		Jan 12 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support,...'		Jan 12 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to...'		Jan 12 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 “Jarvis” Is the Last...'		Jan 12 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with Support for...'		Jan 12 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support,...'		Jan 12 08:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Upcoming Features of #Fedora 24 Linux, the Alpha...'		Jan 12 08:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in...'		Jan 12 08:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release...'		Jan 12 08:50
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq'		Jan 12 08:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/686907231678390273	Jan 12 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Kai Uwe says the focus for Plasma 5.6 was on removing obstacles in the way between u and your tasks, getting in ur way less :)		Jan 12 08:59
schestowitz	performance there was my main issue/barrier	Jan 12 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq	Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@The_Code_Shirts	Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oendw	Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4	Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fpDWY3XxG5 (www.zdnet.com)	Jan 12 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4 \| ZDNet		Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oendx	Jan 12 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Fi and replacement phones: Android	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	could learn from Fedora…	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rtws8MfIrz (dissociatedpress.net)	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenff	Jan 12 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'dissociatedpress.net' ( status 0 @ http://dissociatedpress.net/project-fi-and-replacement-phones-android-could-learn-from-fedora/ )		Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another European conference about #freesw and	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux: "I put together desktop, Fedora, and	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	CentOS tracks" https://t.co/y9wLyxE2Pb	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	(eischmann.wordpress.com)	Jan 12 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com \| Schedule of DevConf.cz 2016 is out! \| Brno's hat		Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenfg	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Reasons Why Ubuntu Is Killing It In The	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud https://t.co/mJ53lxY2eL (www.forbes.com)	Jan 12 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenfh	Jan 12 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Forbes Welcome		Jan 12 10:05
schestowitz	>> ... is the defeat of SCADA	Jan 12 10:12
schestowitz	>> > systems by way of a multiphased attack — not unlike Stuxnet. Hmm…	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	> I know someone who worked / works with water processing. Last time I	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	> spoke with him, which was some time ago, he refused to have anything to	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	> do with putting the systems on the Internet in any way shape or form.	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	> Unfortunately I recently saw an old shodan screenshot of some hydro	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	> system with a UI in his language, so less intelligent minds are getting	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	> their way.	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	I don't know if SCADA always runs on Windows.	Jan 12 10:13
schestowitz	http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/12/messi-is-an-extraterrestrial/	Jan 12 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org \| Messi Is an Extraterrestrial		Jan 12 10:15
schestowitz	OT	Jan 12 10:15
schestowitz	"Many claim that Messi is the result of Pep Guardiola’s teachings in Barcelona. They seem to forget that as a child, in Argentina, Messi was already a brilliant player. Ernesto Vecchio, a coach from his youth, said, “As a player, he is very similar now to how he was as a youngster.” He added, “He decides in milliseconds what he is going to do with the ball at his feet.”	Jan 12 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat’s #Ansible 2.0 brings new power to	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	devops https://t.co/FJi2avwNQV	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Jan 12 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Red Hat's Ansible 2.0 brings new power to devops \| InfoWorld		Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenit	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Debian Developers and Maintainers (November	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	and December 2015) https://t.co/WL62D2C4HM	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	(bits.debian.org)	Jan 12 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/01/new-developers-2015-12.html )		Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeniu	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RemixOS Brings Desktop-Style Android to	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	Intel-Based PCs https://t.co/70qNXTk4rK	Jan 12 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| RemixOS Brings Desktop-Style Android to Intel-Based PCs		Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	(lifehacker.com)	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeniv	Jan 12 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homefront: The Revolution aiming for a day-1	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	Linux & SteamOS release on May 20th	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/evHdV9jnmM (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkj	Jan 12 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Homefront: The Revolution aiming for a day-1 Linux & SteamOS release on May 20th \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Remix OS Is Bringing Android To Old x86 PC	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	(And Mac) For Free https://t.co/lhozxyVGus	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jan 12 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| How To Run Android On Any Old x86 PC (and Mac) For Free With Remix OS		Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkk	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/65bFk0a1kT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkl	Jan 12 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9		Jan 12 10:36
msb_	A most wonderful movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2361509/combined	Jan 12 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Intern (2015/I)		Jan 12 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best	Jan 12 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Release In Years?	Jan 12 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gkcmr1I7t0 (fossbytes.com)	Jan 12 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenlj	Jan 12 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best Ubuntu Release In Years?		Jan 12 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Developers Preparing For PHP 7.0 In	Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	Stretch https://t.co/9EMnwu7Dng	Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Developers Preparing For PHP 7.0 In Stretch - Phoronix		Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenlk	Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into	Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/EObxkhwCEj	Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenll	Jan 12 10:48
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oiaohm	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpG40WiEfM What is happening with cgroups with cgroup v2 is partly why I have been willing to let systemd go. History of development of many things in the Linux world follow the patten of implment every feature then reimplment with restrictions that works.	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| NYLUG Presents: Tejun Heo on cgroups and cgroups v2 (Feb 18th, 2015) - YouTube		Jan 12 11:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sljc3039/status/686945627440168961	Jan 12 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 12 11:23
schestowitz	"	Jan 12 11:23
schestowitz	4 minutes ago	Jan 12 11:23
schestowitz	@schestowitz @FOSSpatents have loved your blog, but I must say your blog today was way out. Trump is a bigoted racist, not the 2nd coming	Jan 12 11:23
schestowitz	"	Jan 12 11:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 https://t.co/65bFk0a1kT'		Jan 12 11:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM targets flexible mainframes with open	Jan 12 11:27
TweetTuxMachines	source golang on z Systems	Jan 12 11:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Nriy2b0Fu (www.cbronline.com)	Jan 12 11:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JDFPXIu1yj (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 12 11:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrq	Jan 12 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com \| IBM targets flexible mainframes with open source golang on z Systems - Computer Business Review		Jan 12 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| All Systems z are Go: IBM ports Google language to mainframes • The Register		Jan 12 11:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/8ahScVwIZE	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrr	Jan 12 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into Linux 4.5 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/rqoi7wCyzr	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrv	Jan 12 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM and Golang https://t.co/QcIMa55gJc	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenry	Jan 12 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IBM and Golang \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Telegram 0.9.18 Released With Some Improvements	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	And Bug Fixes https://t.co/raMeYkjFxO	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuh	Jan 12 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Telegram 0.9.18 Released With Some Improvements And Bug Fixes \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/MgBN535J0S	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenui	Jan 12 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/Z4KZfPPpWA (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuj	Jan 12 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off 2016 - Phoronix		Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived https://t.co/v98cOlAOBD	Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ansible.com)	Jan 12 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ansible.com \| Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived		Jan 12 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuk	Jan 12 11:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6958386	Jan 12 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poll (ish): only one comment so far; Which Linux distribution do you use? https://opensource.com/life/16/1/which-linux-distribution-do-you-use #gnu #linux		Jan 12 12:48
schestowitz	"The best one. Frosty Goat Linux!"	Jan 12 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com		Jan 12 12:48
schestowitz	Never heard of it	Jan 12 12:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5	Jan 12 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJ46JUXHGA (error)	Jan 12 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeo53	Jan 12 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Transform Your Ubuntu Into Windows 10 Look With	Jan 12 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	These GTK Themes https://t.co/dAW7J4eNFA	Jan 12 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeo5c	Jan 12 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Transform Your Ubuntu Into Windows 10 Look With These GTK Themes \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived https://t.co/h5Hah02Uv4	Jan 12 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov0	Jan 12 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mPB213JKD6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov1	Jan 12 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged wireless-ready box-PC runs Linux on	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Cortex-A9 https://t.co/Yn36pyVP4H	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov2	Jan 12 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rugged wireless-ready box-PC runs Linux on Cortex-A9 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Linux won without winning	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CEmltKKG6U (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov3	Jan 12 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How Linux won without winning \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Drupal Hardens Its Security in Response to	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Criticism https://t.co/2osCukEs7p	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov4	Jan 12 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Drupal Hardens Its Security in Response to Criticism \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	30 Bugfixes Across All Apps	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Rdya9nASb9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov5	Jan 12 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than 30 Bugfixes Across All Apps \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:11
msb_	schestowitz: This anti-Linux article -- touted in tuxmachines -- uses the term "[Linux] zealot" twice, and says, "Linux as a desktop OS remains a hobbyist, Tinkertoy-style platform, for people who don't want to run commercial apps but command-line everything". -- http://www.infoworld.com/article/3019852/linux/how-linux-won-without-winning.html	Jan 12 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| How Linux won without winning \| InfoWorld		Jan 12 16:44
msb_	"Linux blew its chance to be a mainstream desktop OS when it failed to offer a usable version for regular people"	Jan 12 16:45
MinceR	as expected from IDG	Jan 12 16:46
schestowitz	an apple booster in this case	Jan 12 16:50
schestowitz	it's rianne's choice	Jan 12 16:50
schestowitz	I warned her this write is an arse	Jan 12 16:50
schestowitz	she posted it anyway	Jan 12 16:50
msb_	The tuxmachines post should have a warning.	Jan 12 16:52
msb_	Good Lord man, can't you keep your woman under control? 8^)	Jan 12 16:53
schestowitz	he doesn't know android uses linux	Jan 12 16:53
schestowitz	" You rarely see Linux when you boot your computer or turn on your smartphone, but the truth is Linux is everywhere"	Jan 12 16:53
schestowitz	Right, only 85% of phones run linux	Jan 12 16:54
schestowitz	but an apple zealot won't mention that	Jan 12 16:54
schestowitz	anyway, that's IDG for you	Jan 12 16:54
schestowitz	they actually have some MS staff (present) as writers	Jan 12 16:54
schestowitz	and some MS MVPs too	Jan 12 16:54
schestowitz	idg is not a news source. It's a sort of corporate cancer masquerading as a news network and setting trends based on sponsors ($)	Jan 12 16:55
schestowitz	When #apple zealots call #freesw proponents "zealots" and fail to note that #android runs #linux we know only #idg is crap enough to hire them	Jan 12 16:55
schestowitz	I guess I'll write something about this later on	Jan 12 16:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.8 Beta Arrives with Btrfs Support	Jan 12 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	and New Linux Kernel https://t.co/LgAmH2KFj2	Jan 12 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oep2i	Jan 12 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Lite 2.8 Beta Arrives with Btrfs Support and New Linux Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 17:09
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than 30...'		Jan 12 17:09
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cubexyz	infoworld?	Jan 12 17:53
cubexyz	well whatever, people want off the microsoft crap	Jan 12 17:58
cubexyz	and making windows 10 a 'service' means there's no snapshot to load from	Jan 12 18:15
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 12 18:22
schestowitz	I have an article about this on the way	Jan 12 18:22
schestowitz	though I try not to lose too much time bashing Vista 10, there are more serious issues	Jan 12 18:22
schestowitz	and even MS boosters started attacking Vista 10	Jan 12 18:22
schestowitz	they don't want it, they're not happy with it being imposed	Jan 12 18:23
schestowitz	and older versions getting abandoned, no support	Jan 12 18:23
schestowitz	maybe they'll just decide to move to "Mac" PC or GNU/Linux	Jan 12 18:23
oiaohm	The reality is Android does not use X11. The biggest thing that has kept on holding the Linux Desktop back as soon as you suggest it some looking into security faults hello X11 swiss cheese.	Jan 12 18:48
oiaohm	Also the multi gpu issue that came from vendors on Linux not wanting todo cooperative stacks either.	Jan 12 18:49
oiaohm	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta the first time closed source nvidia drivers not designed to replace core parts of Opengl stack on Linux yes it took until 2016 for this to turn up.	Jan 12 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA 361.16 Beta Driver Now Includes Long-Awaited GLVND - Phoronix		Jan 12 18:51
cubexyz	http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca	Jan 12 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca \| Notes on Linux		Jan 12 19:01
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cubexyz	wow, some folks are actually listening to my audio blog on ancient Unix	Jan 12 19:16
cubexyz	guess someone linked to it	Jan 12 19:16
cubexyz	people have such short attention spans these days	Jan 12 19:17
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schestowitz	i did	Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz	on my rss feeds	Jan 12 19:51
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sebsebseb	ping MinceR cubexyz schestowitz	Jan 12 19:57
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cubexyz	hmmm?	Jan 12 20:11
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cubexyz	ever heard about cyclopeadia.de ?	Jan 12 20:22
cubexyz	named after some ancient encyclopedia	Jan 12 20:24
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cubexyz	in fact, cyclopeadia is the archaic term for encyclopedia	Jan 12 20:26
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclop%C3%A6dia,_or_an_Universal_Dictionary_of_Arts_and_Sciences	Jan 12 20:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amayita/status/687081586928578562	Jan 12 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amayita: @schestowitz any credible source for that? I'm interested in the coroner report, is it public record?		Jan 12 20:29
schestowitz	Someone told me this, but didn't provide link/doc	Jan 12 20:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amayita/status/687084335229460481	Jan 12 20:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/687091168006426624	Jan 12 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz In other words, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM :)		Jan 12 21:01
schestowitz	context: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687090301148741632	Jan 12 21:01
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msb_	The cancer is spreading. https://tails.boum.org/news/test_2.0-rc1/index.en.html "Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity. It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship" What's New: " the use of Linux namespaces, set up by systemd."	Jan 13 03:13
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msb_	Death penalty for non-violent protest. Turkey? ISIL-controlled Syria? No, London. RT ran this documentary tonight: http://kettlingofthevoices.com/ "Kettling" means surrounding crowds of non-violent protestors with 3-deep rings of police, compressing them into the smallest possible space, and pushing steel fences over on top of them, keeping them imprisoned for, e.g., 12 hours, without water or toilet facilities. In 2010 students	Jan 13 03:38
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msb_	protested against austerity changes in higher education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_student_protests " Around 30 protesters were treated, most for head injuries.[67] Police used batons to hit protesters... One protester, philosophy student Alfie Meadows, suffered a blow to the head from a police truncheon that knocked him unconscious. Taken to hospital, it was discovered that he was suffering from bleeding	Jan 13 03:38
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msb_	of the brain, and required brain surgery." Hitting someone on the head with a heavy blunt object is ATTEMPTED MURDER.	Jan 13 03:38
oiaohm	msb: unfortunately not the way it works. Who took him to hospital. If the police did its not Attempted murder. If the person was not fighting back its techically a assult charge.	Jan 13 03:44
oiaohm	msb_: Police training covers using battons against head to control targets. The force is meant to be controlled for min risk to life.	Jan 13 03:46
oiaohm	msb_: min risk to life does not rule out bleed on brian.	Jan 13 03:46
msb_	So "minimum risk to life" includes murder.	Jan 13 03:47
msb_	One of the main ways that the ruling psychopaths program people is by grossly distorted usage of words. Instead of "mass murder of millions of people" they say "war". Instead of "attempted murder of innocent people" they say "control targets". The psychopaths, with their control of the corporate media, repeat such monstrous lies so many times, and from so many directions, that non-critical thinkers end up believing them. "What you	Jan 13 04:01
msb_	tell me three times is true."	Jan 13 04:01
oiaohm	msb_: Please remember the police have downgraded from using swords.	Jan 13 04:01
oiaohm	msb_: to battons.	Jan 13 04:01
oiaohm	msb_: the define of min risk the police use is horible.	Jan 13 04:02
oiaohm	msb_: here is something nasty cattle and dogs have more rights to water and toilet facilities than a crowd of people.	Jan 13 04:04
oiaohm	msb_: yes that is UK and Australian law.	Jan 13 04:05
oiaohm	msb_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpG40WiEfM watch how cgroups were developed then can you tell me that systemd will not follow the same development model?	Jan 13 04:12
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oiaohm	msb_: also read the wikipedia on that 2010 protests. The police on the 10 of November gave them students the benifit of presuming they would be peaceful. Once that is broke the ammount of force police is allowed to apply self defence increases a lot. Yes kocking peoples lights out as first action becomes acceptable.	Jan 13 04:14
msb_	Only acceptable to psychopaths.	Jan 13 04:15
oiaohm	msb_: not at all.	Jan 13 04:15
oiaohm	msb_: the problem here is once a croud has the possiblity of being hostile self defence mandates keeping them outside their arm lenths.	Jan 13 04:16
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oiaohm	msb_: Rules of combat are rules of combat. People start doing hostile actions you can end up in the horible location of force canceling force.	Jan 13 04:17
oiaohm	msb_: question how many police strikes generated 30 harmed protestors needing medical add. You would find out lots of strikes were correctly placed to do min harm. Using a batton always has a percentage of error.	Jan 13 04:19
oiaohm	msb_: please also take into account countries with psychopaths in charge would have just used a machine gun into crowd it is lower risk to their own forces.	Jan 13 04:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lots of #RemixOS in headlines recently, e.g.	Jan 13 04:28
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cubexyz	ok, is there any reason to run android on a PC?	Jan 13 04:30
oiaohm	msb_: I guess you have never trained using a batton to know where you aim to hit and where you in fact hit is dependant not only on your action but the action of the person targeted heck the person targeted may not be the person hit. So percentage of error so any police action using battons you expect so many head hits.	Jan 13 04:31
msb_	You are one sick fuck.	Jan 13 04:31
oiaohm	: Not at all I have truly done hand to hand combat training and know the law. By the way police targeting your sholder to induce pain and hit you in head is not attempted murder at worst if person dues is accidental homicide.	Jan 13 04:34
oiaohm	dues/dies	Jan 13 04:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: familiarity would be a reason for android on PC they use it on phone/tablet.	Jan 13 04:36
oiaohm	msb_: police have very limited weapons for crowd control most can induce death. Tear gas, shield, batons, even bar hands can all induce death. How many strikes does it take to kill a person with a baton if you are indenting to. The answer is 1. Correct place hit is death in 30 seconds.	Jan 13 04:39
cubexyz	oiaohm, I can think of many better ways to stop people without using a baton	Jan 13 04:40
oiaohm	msb_: zero deaths before medical treatment alone tells you the police were not aiming to kill.	Jan 13 04:40
cubexyz	there was immobilizing foam for one	Jan 13 04:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: immobilizing foam has a higher kill rate than batons.	Jan 13 04:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: its why its not used more.	Jan 13 04:41
cubexyz	how could foam kill anyone?	Jan 13 04:41
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oiaohm	cubexyz: if you breath it in the stuff can block your lungs.	Jan 13 04:42
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oiaohm	cubexyz: lot faster death than a bleed on brain.	Jan 13 04:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: the mistake with immobilizing foam was found out by police policy that police have to experience containment tech used on themselves. Cost 4 police officers in training in one session.	Jan 13 04:44
cubexyz	sticky foam seems to be the most used term	Jan 13 04:46
cubexyz	yes, I see the risk of suffocation	Jan 13 04:46
oiaohm	suffocation is a very quick to fatal.	Jan 13 04:47
cubexyz	oiaohm, it still seems that police are killing people unnecessarily	Jan 13 04:47
cubexyz	especially people on the fringe, mentally ill, homeless, teenagers etc	Jan 13 04:48
msb_	Tabulation for oiaohm: 1. systemd is necessary and good for Linux 2. cannabis is dangerous (despite the fact that people titrate to effect) 3. blunt head trauma is the best way for police to control crowds. WTF do we have here?	Jan 13 04:48
cubexyz	I don't think he actually said that about systemd	Jan 13 04:49
oiaohm	msb_: again you miss quote me on number 1.	Jan 13 04:50
msb_	He has in fact stated many claims that systemd corrects important problems in Linux.	Jan 13 04:50
oiaohm	I said that systemd was necessary to happen for the good for Linux. Because time had not been spent planing out how Linux systems should boot.	Jan 13 04:50
oiaohm	Now I expect systemd to be like cgroup v1 vs cgroup v2	Jan 13 04:51
msb_	QED	Jan 13 04:51
cubexyz	oiaohm, why don't you check what the stock exchanges use? I bet they aren't using systemd	Jan 13 04:51
cubexyz	if anyone wants reliability it's the stock exchange	Jan 13 04:51
cubexyz	they were using AIX, HP-UX and Solaris before	Jan 13 04:53
oiaohm	msb_: number 2 like it or not the medical data on cannabis exists. The chemical you where pushing was the documented harmful. I in fact quoted documents on the techical mert of a particular chemical in the non get high stuff.	Jan 13 04:53
oiaohm	msb_: so on cannabis you had your facts wrong.	Jan 13 04:54
oiaohm	msb_: like it or not crowd control is a risky business no matter how you do it someone will get hurt.	Jan 13 04:55
cubexyz	many many people have spoke out against systemd, it's not just one or two disgruntled greybeards	Jan 13 04:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: many people may have spoke out against systemd but its funny how many of the arguements were in fact blaming systemd for issues that happened under sysvinit anyhow.	Jan 13 04:56
oiaohm	cubexyz: many people were also upset with sysvinit as well.	Jan 13 04:57
cubexyz	I don't have any problems with sysvinit	Jan 13 04:58
cubexyz	and I've been running it a long time	Jan 13 04:58
oiaohm	cubexyz: systemd is following the cgroup v1 design model of just keep on adding features. Now after cgroup v1 tried every path they are now rebuilding cgroup v2 based on what they learnt from v1	Jan 13 04:58
cubexyz	I don't use cgroups	Jan 13 04:59
oiaohm	cubexyz: do you run multi partition setups with separate /var to /	Jan 13 04:59
cubexyz	no, it's the same partition	Jan 13 05:00
oiaohm	Ok then you are fine if you had answered yes there is a bug there that systemd addresses by adding a x-initrd.mount flag to fstab to make intrd load extra partitions while still in the ram drive.	Jan 13 05:01
cubexyz	on FC1 (server) / and /var are on the same partition	Jan 13 05:01
oiaohm	cubexyz: have you ever seen a dead.letter file	Jan 13 05:02
cubexyz	on openbsd / and /var are separate partitions	Jan 13 05:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: do you know what /dead.letter if you see it means.	Jan 13 05:02
cubexyz	I haven't seen a dead.letter file in a long time	Jan 13 05:03
oiaohm	failed harddrive.	Jan 13 05:04
cubexyz	I think it happens if you try to send mail and it failed	Jan 13 05:04
oiaohm	/dead.letter is a file that is auto created in case of harddrive failure.	Jan 13 05:04
oiaohm	Of course that is no use if / is still in state read only.	Jan 13 05:05
oiaohm	This is where sysvinit partion mounting comes apart big time.	Jan 13 05:05
cubexyz	oiaohm, I think you need to read man mail :)	Jan 13 05:05
cubexyz	I have no recollection of dead.letter being used to mean a failed hard drive ever	Jan 13 05:06
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oiaohm	cubexyz: its one of the trick questions.	Jan 13 05:07
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oiaohm	/dead.letter is not in your home directory	Jan 13 05:07
oiaohm	In your home directory you are right its mail.	Jan 13 05:07
cubexyz	can you cite some documentation for this?	Jan 13 05:08
cubexyz	I can see when it first appeared: in Unix v6 mail.c	Jan 13 05:11
oiaohm	cubexyz: to be correct it is and is not mail. System error happens before system has mail system up. Application attempt to email. No users maps are active this include /root user. Result messages in /dead.letter	Jan 13 05:11
oiaohm	cubexyz: most common item to find in /dead.letter is of course drive failures.	Jan 13 05:12
cubexyz	a good operator should be watching dmesg and doing regular fsck so that if the drive starts to fail they wouldn't be caught unawares	Jan 13 05:13
cubexyz	there should be some warning, I don't usually see drives immediately although it is possible	Jan 13 05:13
oiaohm	More details on the failure can be in fact send to /dead.letter than what was recorded in dmesg	Jan 13 05:13
oiaohm	So when you are mounting your core partitions you want /dead.letter location if possible writable and extractable if need.	Jan 13 05:14
cubexyz	if it's all on one drive and it fails it's backup time	Jan 13 05:14
oiaohm	cubexyz: maybe if message is failing heads time to take drive to data recovery firm before doing anything else.	Jan 13 05:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: basically core boot up order has been wrong for a very long time.	Jan 13 05:16
cubexyz	updatedb errors should tell you if the drive is going bad	Jan 13 05:16
cubexyz	I think that looks at the whole filesystem	Jan 13 05:16
cubexyz	there's a lot of info in root's mail and most of the time I don't usually look at it	Jan 13 05:17
cubexyz	but I do pay attention to dmesg	Jan 13 05:17
oiaohm	cubexyz: please note /dead.letter messages happen when root user does not recieve the mail.	Jan 13 05:18
oiaohm	at least under sysvinit.	Jan 13 05:18
cubexyz	critical files are backed up once a day to a different hard drive on a different computer	Jan 13 05:18
oiaohm	Journald was in fact design to go and pick up the /dead.letter and attempt to deliver it after the fact.	Jan 13 05:18
oiaohm	Something I have not understood is why syslogs solutions don't go and pick it up.	Jan 13 05:19
msb_	oiaohm's corporate psychopath claims are contradicted by _reality_. 1. Linux has been in use for 25 years in 100 million or more installations and has worked fine with sysvinit; any problems are very infrequent and easy to correct due to good Unix engineering practices. 2. During the 1960s hundreds of millions of people smoked cannabis in the US; nobody suffered ill effects unless they smoked far too much, in which case all they	Jan 13 05:19
msb_	suffered was a few hours of anxiety; while cannabis today may be stronger, people smoke correspondingly less. They smoke until they get the effect they desire (titrate to effect). 3. There are many non-lethal methods of crowd control: firehoses, tear gas, batons used anywhere _except_ the head, neck, spine. oiaohm is a lying sack of shit.	Jan 13 05:19
oiaohm	msb_: batons people trip and people get pushed. You aim for the correct place you don't always hit there.	Jan 13 05:21
cubexyz	surely the police don't aim for the head?	Jan 13 05:21
cubexyz	but clearly they must hit the head in some cases	Jan 13 05:21
oiaohm	msb_: people have died due tear gas and firehoses.	Jan 13 05:21
oiaohm	msb_: at a higher rate than using batons and shields.	Jan 13 05:21
cubexyz	Kelly Thomas is the most prominent example	Jan 13 05:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: a shock tap to the head is aimed at the jaw.	Jan 13 05:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: now if you miss that strike big problems.	Jan 13 05:23
cubexyz	oiaohm, are you familiar with this case:	Jan 13 05:24
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I am familiar with the differerent combat strikes that are meant to be used.	Jan 13 05:24
cubexyz	some of the police are morphing into a quasi-military thug-like group	Jan 13 05:25
cubexyz	I think that's what people are worried about	Jan 13 05:26
oiaohm	cubexyz: the problem is the gap between containment and excessive force is not much. Quality of training is very important something USA police are not known for.	Jan 13 05:27
oiaohm	Just throwing a person to ground can a look absolutely identical and 1 be excessive force and 1 be perfectly fine the difference is speed of move and the resulting speed of impact with ground.	Jan 13 05:29
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oiaohm	cubexyz: to me the Kelly Thomas damage reads like poorly trained Police attempting todo a containment on a unwilling person.	Jan 13 05:32
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oiaohm	cubexyz: really who ever was responsible for those Police officers training should have been pulled into court. Of course this never happens in civilian courts where in cases like this in mils it happens.	Jan 13 05:33
msb_	The fundamental problem with representative "democracy" is that there are enough layers between the voters and the elected rulers that wealthy psychopaths can get in and gain control by bribery or threats. That leaves protests as the only way that people can try to control the government. But now protests are being defined as "terrorism", punishable by death.	Jan 13 05:33
oiaohm	msb_: I would not say protests are the only way. Stunts the yes men pulled show there was at least 1 other way.	Jan 13 05:35
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msb_	Note the Kent State massacre. It was no accident. People heard the orders given to the soldiers.	Jan 13 05:38
msb_	It was very important in ending the Woodstock Nation.	Jan 13 05:41
oiaohm	msb_: with cannabis today with the strongest plants one breath in is overdoeses on THC. The issue with cannabis is as THC level goes up protective CBD goes down. So basically toxicity problem.	Jan 13 05:41
oiaohm	msb_: so stronger does not mean person will have a chance to smoke less. Stronger means possiblity of instant overdoes.	Jan 13 05:42
msb_	It's easy to smoke less. Simply pull in less air thru the cigarette, more air around it.	Jan 13 05:43
msb_	If one does OD, the only bad effect is a few hours of anxiety.	Jan 13 05:44
oiaohm	msb_: the ratio out.	Jan 13 05:45
oiaohm	msb_: CBD is required to keep THC safe.	Jan 13 05:45
oiaohm	msb_: not enough CBD to counter intake amount of THC you are in trouble.	Jan 13 05:45
msb_	Interesting: my name is known and so is cubexyz's, also xrevan86. What is _your_ real name?	Jan 13 05:46
oiaohm	msb_: more air does alter the ratio does it.	Jan 13 05:46
msb_	more air, less smoke	Jan 13 05:47
oiaohm	msb_: its the ratio of active compound that does the harm.	Jan 13 05:47
msb_	what harm?	Jan 13 05:47
oiaohm	THC is a memory blocker.	Jan 13 05:48
oiaohm	As well as other nerve blocking actions.	Jan 13 05:48
oiaohm	CBD prevents THC from doing that.	Jan 13 05:48
oiaohm	So not enough CBD to THC you are in trouble.	Jan 13 05:49
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oiaohm	Basically smoke better ratio stuff.	Jan 13 05:49
msb_	Never happened to me. Also it's temporary.	Jan 13 05:49
oiaohm	Long term THC damage caused by having THC without correct ratio of CBD is not tempory. Its long term damage to means to produce short term memories.	Jan 13 05:50
oiaohm	OD with correct ammount of CBD is temporary.	Jan 13 05:51
msb_	If people OD, they only do so once.	Jan 13 05:51
oiaohm	Please note OD with THC and CBD in correct ratios does not do much damage to means to make short term memories.	Jan 13 05:52
oiaohm	Now same mount of THC with out correct counter ammount of CBD will do major damage.	Jan 13 05:52
oiaohm	msb_: remember to make long term memories you normally need to get it into short term memory first.	Jan 13 05:53
oiaohm	Big reason to legalese cannabis would be to get rid of the wrong ratio stuff.	Jan 13 05:54
msb_	oiaohm: The purpose of your lying psychopath propaganda is to discourage people from using cannabis, because it can help people wake up from being a slave to the psychopaths. The psychopaths don't want them to wake up.	Jan 13 05:54
oiaohm	msb_: In fact pure CBD is more likely to make someone see through propaganda.	Jan 13 05:55
msb_	All my friends smoked cannabis lots of different types. None of them had memory problems	Jan 13 05:55
msb_	you claim your mutated cannabinoid receptors don't even work. How would you know, you goddamn anonymos POS?	Jan 13 05:56
oiaohm	http://www.techtimes.com/articles/39538/20150313/marijuana-use-in-teen-years-may-lead-to-memory-loss.htm	Jan 13 05:57
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oiaohm	msb_: number there are a lot of studies on this.	Jan 13 05:58
msb_	You want to destroy Linux, consciousness , and the ability to protest. You are a monster.	Jan 13 05:58
oiaohm	msb_: CBD has been proven to improve memory. THC is proven to harm it.	Jan 13 05:58
oiaohm	msb_: of course as the studies have shown those with damaged memory normally don't notice it because the damage becomes their normal.	Jan 13 05:59
oiaohm	msb_: also they don't notice that they have lost IQ to see through deceptions.	Jan 13 05:59
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oiaohm	msb_: so claiming your friends don't notice the lost memory would be nothing strange. Does not change the way the chemical work on human body.	Jan 13 06:01
oiaohm	msb_: CBD also suppresses addition. So able to reduce CBD means dealer at times can move more product due to person craving more. This is why smoke less theory also does not hold. To be able to smoke less is also dependent on the ratio remaining correct.	Jan 13 06:05
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msb_	Cannabis is not addictive. Tell us your name, psychopath.	Jan 13 06:08
oiaohm	msb_: http://drug.addictionblog.org/is-thc-addictive/	Jan 13 06:09
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oiaohm	msb_: THC is addictive like it or not.	Jan 13 06:09
oiaohm	msb_: correct ratio Cannabis is not addictive because it has enough CBD to counter this problem.	Jan 13 06:10
oiaohm	msb_: basically there is safe Cannabis and unsafe Cannabis. So blanket statements that Cannabis is addictive or not addictive is both lies.	Jan 13 06:11
oiaohm	msb_: Cannabis safety is all about the ratio of active chemicals.	Jan 13 06:13
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TweetTuxMachines	Edition https://t.co/1yQnsZmn57	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	(cubexyz.blogspot.com)	Jan 13 06:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerqn	Jan 13 06:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com \| Notes on Linux: A Brief Guide to Alternatives to Windows: 2016 Edition		Jan 13 06:51
schestowitz	"That’s because of the great DistroWatch Conspiracy™! 2016 is the year of the FGL desktop!"	Jan 13 06:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6958386	Jan 13 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poll (ish): only one comment so far; Which Linux distribution do you use? https://opensource.com/life/16/1/which-linux-distribution-do-you-use #gnu #linux		Jan 13 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/oemab ]		Jan 13 06:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ACPI & Power Management Updates For Linux 4.5	Jan 13 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tYHw6Y67Ei (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 13 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerro	Jan 13 06:58
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schestowitz	> "Linux as a desktop OS remains a hobbyist, Tinkertoy-style platform,	Jan 13 07:04
schestowitz	> for people who don't want to run commercial apps but command-line	Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	> everything. "	Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	>	Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	> x	Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3019852/linux/how-linux-won-without-winning.html	Jan 13 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| How Linux won without winning \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oersh ]		Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	>	Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	> bullshit	Jan 13 07:05
schestowitz	yes, saw that...	Jan 13 07:05
cubexyz	well they may have meant the tinkertoy reference to be an insult, but tinkertoys have been around for over 100 years and still going strong :)	Jan 13 07:11
XRevan86	Windows as a desktop OS remains a Tinkertoy-style platform, for people who don't want to run serious CLI applications but play games.	Jan 13 07:12
msb_	Tinkertoys and Erector Set are both wonderful educational systems that enable kids to build all sorts of things that they can imagine. Both are still available.	Jan 13 07:32
msb_	Combine them with a Raspberry-Pi or some other cheap IoT SBC and wowie!	Jan 13 07:33
msb_	If you hear a clap of thunder and run up to your kid's room and they're not there, they've probably built a warp drive. But it's likely they'll be back.	Jan 13 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Blackphone2 review (2)	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1dDdQIyMAi (www.version2.dk) "Not	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	Private By Design"	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerwy	Jan 13 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.version2.dk \| Blackphone2 review (2) \| Version2		Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "In just a year after the open-source Dronecode	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	effort launched, its membership has taken off"	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tjra8uU5P0 (www.eweek.com)	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerx0	Jan 13 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Linux Foundation Moves Dronecode Project Forward		Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Ansible 2.0: a 'playbook' for agentless	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	automation https://t.co/VHoOAoxJB4	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerx1	Jan 13 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| Red Hat Ansible 2.0: a 'playbook' for agentless automation - Open Source Insider		Jan 13 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	Upgrades More Robust https://t.co/eGg0CF6gNg	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerxv	Jan 13 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the Upgrades More Robust \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OLnDoifBAp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerxy	Jan 13 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Configuring Linux for music recording and	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	production https://t.co/if7B37hhJP	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oery0	Jan 13 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Configuring Linux for music recording and production \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 07:44
msb_	There's a wonderful movie about kids who build a spaceship -- from information they get in dreams! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089114/combined	Jan 13 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Explorers (1985)		Jan 13 07:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Gnome 15.12 released	Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QZGGl5qmpY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oes84	Jan 13 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Gnome 15.12 released \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source communities need mentors	Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8iVyh9AvVr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oes85	Jan 13 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source communities need mentors \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Picademy USA Accepting Applications	Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/afcfurLC4K (fossforce.com)	Jan 13 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oes86	Jan 13 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Raspberry Picademy USA Accepting Applications \| FOSS Force		Jan 13 09:06
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msb_	cubexyz: hello?	Jan 13 09:13
msb_	There's a good new tv series called shadowhunters just started. ep 1 and 2 are both out. A young woman is a hereditary demon hunter.	Jan 13 09:14
msb_	Hey, maybe she'll kill systemd! Cut off its head -- that works for almost anything! -- BTVS	Jan 13 09:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than 30...'		Jan 13 09:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#LinuxLite 2.8 Beta Arrives with Btrfs Support and...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Snapcraft 1.0 Ubuntu Snappy Creator Tool Officially Released,...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Samba 4.3.4 Has Been Released for GNU/Linux and...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Receive a Big QtMir...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cutegram 2.7.1 Out Now, Work Starts for Cutegram...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cordova Ubuntu 4.3.2 Brings the Apache Cordova Project...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Calendar Just Landed in Ubuntu 16.04 Daily...'		Jan 13 09:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for...'		Jan 13 09:54
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the Upgrades...'		Jan 13 09:54
msb_	Wow, the Shadowhunters have a major computer center!	Jan 13 10:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687269651525537792	Jan 13 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz ugh, my error, should be NSC, not NSA		Jan 13 11:32
schestowitz	ouch, big difference	Jan 13 11:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/687303411050672128	Jan 13 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz IDG is up for sale. Goldman Sachs is looking for options for them.		Jan 13 11:34
schestowitz	good!	Jan 13 11:34
schestowitz	msb_: those people who say "zealots"	Jan 13 11:34
schestowitz	They have many MS people in their staff as "journalists"	Jan 13 11:34
schestowitz	MS staff, proper	Jan 13 11:34
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DinoFancellu/status/687306153752195072	Jan 13 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DinoFancellu: @WeiDeLi14 @schestowitz Ditto. I received nothing. No replies to support tweets. And can't try again, says I did it recently (last friday)		Jan 13 11:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DinoFancellu/status/687306153752195072	Jan 13 11:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687239683592597504	Jan 13 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch @fosdem @mariobehling will you come?		Jan 13 11:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/687314155695640576	Jan 13 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: Old news: irrelevant techsite Webwereld + parent company IDG are up for sale https://t.co/oLUcPKGCse https://t.co/ygloZBWgbs #dyingmedia		Jan 13 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fortune.com \| IDG Puts Itself on the Block - Fortune		Jan 13 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| IDC - Techrights		Jan 13 11:46
schestowitz	http://www.presseportal.de/pm/78009/3223963	Jan 13 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presseportal.de \| Patentverein.de kritisiert das geplante EU-Patent-Regelwerk als mittelstandsfeindlich / Verband ruft zu wachsamer Begleitung vor Ratifizierung im Parlament auf \| Pressemitteilung Patentverein.de e.V.		Jan 13 11:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PatentWire/status/687271521232932865	Jan 13 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PatentWire: Patentverein.de kritisiert das geplante EU-Patent-Regelwerk als ... - Presseportal.de (Pressemitteilung) (16 visits) https://t.co/vMAXFSECZo		Jan 13 11:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687315888006119424	Jan 13 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz yes it is. apologies. Was a late nite		Jan 13 11:58
schestowitz	it's annoying when it happens (wrong name of similar). Happened to me too.	Jan 13 11:59
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for...'		Jan 13 12:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution	Jan 13 12:04
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2	Jan 13 12:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/I8T0Wv2aQc (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 12:04
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/687318359671738369	Jan 13 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz I have read their Dutch sites for years, and I wouldn't dare say those were systematically biased - more following the market		Jan 13 12:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687325060202381312	Jan 13 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz well ed should have caught it but original error was mine. rule is don't write tired.		Jan 13 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T Will Deploy Canonical's Ubuntu Linux for	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud and Networking https://t.co/0xZzWpDgoO	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com) https://t.co/Yz9rwHrIM4	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| AT&T Will Deploy Canonical's Ubuntu Linux for Cloud and Networking \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oet99	Jan 13 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| AT&T Chooses Ubuntu and Canonical for Its Network and Cloud Operations		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio https://t.co/wapbpJST0X	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should you install Linux on a gaming laptop?	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MmGR65SlVe (www.infoworld.com)	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	answers from #reddit	Jan 13 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Should you install Linux on a gaming laptop? \| InfoWorld		Jan 13 12:44
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes...'		Jan 13 12:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel...'		Jan 13 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution	Jan 13 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2	Jan 13 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qNp11jdnTx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2 \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu and AT&T https://t.co/tRoPaDRw3X	Jan 13 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu and AT&T \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel	Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio https://t.co/DfriN7GoRU	Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opening your mind to open source	Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pkgKFNi0KH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Opening your mind to open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt open source licensing changed and product	Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	structure updated to strengthen community and	Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	extend adoption https://t.co/qKeSvYfXFR	Jan 13 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt open source licensing changed and product structure updated to strengthen community and extend adoption \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:54
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960527	Jan 13 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who are using #gnu #linux and are good at it don't go command-line because there's no other option but because sometimes it's faster		Jan 13 13:21
schestowitz	"Sometimes it also avoids unintended side effects."	Jan 13 13:21
schestowitz	"Faster, easier, and more capable."	Jan 13 13:21
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msb_	schestowitz: Please watch this great one-minute video. About corporate media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7K7SaEgB7w "msb_: those people who say "zealots", They have many MS people in their staff as "journalists""	Jan 13 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Watching the Hawks: Questioning more than the mainstream media - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/oetj3 ]		Jan 13 13:45
oiaohm	msb_: really you need to look closer. Lot of people on Microsoft staff are technically employed as writers. The difference between a writer and a journalist to be exact is that a journalist is meant to know how to research facts where a writer just words what is in front of them.	Jan 13 13:49
oiaohm	msb_: yes man cons depended on how much of main stream media these days are writers not journalists.	Jan 13 13:50
oiaohm	msb_: in fact some of yes man cons show how simple it is to have writers complete a real looking paper containing complete fiction. http://theyesmen.org/hijinks/newyorktimes	Jan 13 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theyesmen.org \| New York Times special edition \| The Yes Men [ http://ur1.ca/oetk5 ]		Jan 13 13:53
msb_	oiaohm: 1. you say that systemd is necessary for Linux 2. you say that cannabis is harmful 3. you say that police clubbing people on the head is a good method of crowd control 4. Now you're saying that some MS writers for IDG are good guys. And you refuse to tell us your name or who you work for.	Jan 13 13:53
oiaohm	msb_: no you just added bogus.	Jan 13 13:53
oiaohm	I did not say they were good guys at all	Jan 13 13:54
oiaohm	Sorry you are a complete bullshit artist msb_	Jan 13 13:54
msb_	why won't you tell us your name and affiliation?	Jan 13 13:55
oiaohm	msb_: the serous question here is why does places like IDG employ people who are just writers who don't have proper journalist qualifications and training to validate facts.	Jan 13 13:55
oiaohm	msb_: number 1 to a person who likes to quote me out of context I have no reason to give my real name. Like it or not schestowitz has my real name along with others in here.	Jan 13 13:57
oiaohm	msb_: I said systemd was necessary to happen for Linux development not that systemd is self is long term necessary.	Jan 13 13:58
oiaohm	msb_: like cgroup v1 that was necessary to work out what cgroups should do. But long term that complete interface will have to disappear.	Jan 13 13:58
oiaohm	msb_: me alone does not say that cannabis is harmful. Medical data on cannabis says the stuff you can buy on the street today is harmful.	Jan 13 13:59
oiaohm	msb_: crowd control is a brutal process. What should the police do use bullets or water or floam and kill more people. Intentionally targeted kill strikes with a baton will kill a person 1 every 3 strike. Targeted hits with a baton to induce pain kill hospital risk is about 1 in 2000 strikes by well trained by poorly trained about 1 in 500 strikes.	Jan 13 14:03
oiaohm	msb_: those are the shocking numbers. Poorly trained police are a major worry.	Jan 13 14:04
oiaohm	msb_: basically you go off on tangents all the time without knowing the facts. One of the signs that the person you are dealing with is not a journalist is click baiting. So some of the reason IDG employees writers not journalist is click baiting allows them to make more money from advertisement with completely false stories.	Jan 13 14:09
MinceR	same reason journalism is practically dead	Jan 13 14:10
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.infoworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ if you look into Galen Gruman who is the editor of infoworld and the author of that tinker toys write up does not have a single journalism qualification.	Jan 13 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Galen Gruman \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oetnn ]		Jan 13 14:13
oiaohm	This is what is so insane people pay big money on books written and managed by people who are not qualified to write them in the first place.	Jan 13 14:14
oiaohm	Funny part is most peopled don't know the formal titles. "Editor in Chief" is the proper tittle for someone who has journalism qualifications and is an executive editor. http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html Notice something here. That is Eric Knorr,	Jan 13 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| About Us [ http://ur1.ca/oetou ]		Jan 13 14:18
oiaohm	Galen Gruman is not even officially on the infoworld executive. Really slap shot media setup there.	Jan 13 14:19
MinceR	so, what is the "Editor in Chief" supposed to do with hack "articles" full of lies?	Jan 13 14:20
schestowitz	Eric Knohr? (spelling)	Jan 13 14:20
schestowitz	I think he's the editor of 'info' war	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	aka InfoWorld	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	he doesn't like Linux much, eitheer	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	but not in Microsoft's pockets afaict	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	though not critical of them either	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	Galen IIRC is a big Apple fan	Jan 13 14:21
oiaohm	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor-in-chief the job description.	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	[19:18] <oiaohm> Funny part is most peopled don't know the formal titles. "Editor in Chief" is the proper tittle for someone who has journalism qualifications and is an executive editor. http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html Notice something here. That is Eric Knorr,	Jan 13 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Editor-in-chief - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oetpk ]		Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	Ah, yes, it's him	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	Snorr	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	Knorr	Jan 13 14:21
schestowitz	the problem is who they hire	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	they have ex-MS staff	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	current MS staff	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	MS MVPs	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	I mean, come on	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	if you hire as writers these people, might as well hand over the operation to MSFT	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	I wrote a lot about this	Jan 13 14:22
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDG	Jan 13 14:22
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schestowitz	NetworkWorld is also quite bad	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	but not as bad as it used to be	Jan 13 14:23
oiaohm	MinceR: so its the "editor and chief" people who is technically responsible for everything. They are meant to post corrections about any incorrectly published articial as well as attempt to prevent that from happening.	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	years ago it has a 'foss' blog which was stuffed with anti-FOSS writers	Jan 13 14:23
oiaohm	MinceR: "editors and chief" are not mean to allow people to use bullshit titles either.	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	IDG sites need to due	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	*die	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	MS boosters will write in their blogs	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	no ads as incentive to hire/bias stuff	Jan 13 14:23
schestowitz	we don't need corporate media	Jan 13 14:24
schestowitz	people don't deserve to be promoted to "news" feeds just because some company hired them	Jan 13 14:24
schestowitz	and this companies received money from MS	Jan 13 14:24
schestowitz	or is connected directly to MS	Jan 13 14:24
schestowitz	Like 1105 Media	Jan 13 14:24
oiaohm	Reality with IDG they need a new "Editor in Chief' and possibility a complete new executive	Jan 13 14:24
schestowitz	Too many propaganda sites out there, inc. MS-connected ones	Jan 13 14:25
schestowitz	IDG is on sale	Jan 13 14:25
schestowitz	maybe it'll go down the toilet	Jan 13 14:25
schestowitz	!google idg up for sale	Jan 13 14:25
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schestowitz	what would Larabel do?	Jan 13 14:25
oiaohm	schestowitz: its already down the toilet and should be treated like a tablod not a reference document.	Jan 13 14:25
schestowitz	he depends on them for crappy obtrusive ads	Jan 13 14:25
schestowitz	oiaohm: right	Jan 13 14:25
schestowitz	I don't like it when people like swapnil dump multware	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	and then themurk	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	and now linuxveda is dea	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	*dead	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	because he works for IDG	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	Mostly "CIO"	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	In Virginia... Arlington IIRC	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	so his own sites where he cannot be censored are dead	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	The same goes for many of their other pro-Linux writers	Jan 13 14:26
schestowitz	SJVN works for CBS now	Jan 13 14:27
oiaohm	The problem with blaming the writers people forget its the "editor in chief" and staff who approve everything the writers do or they should if they are doing there job.	Jan 13 14:27
schestowitz	and he sounds like a pro-MS tune sometimes	Jan 13 14:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/687343959404888064	Jan 13 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz , what do you think abt such project? - https://t.co/KFeDZWIqTp		Jan 13 14:30
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schestowitz	oiaohm: well, Knorr failed	Jan 13 14:30
schestowitz	and he needs house cleaning, it's well overdue	Jan 13 14:30
schestowitz	surely he saw my criticism of him many times before	Jan 13 14:30
schestowitz	and of his writers who have obvious conflicts of interest	Jan 13 14:31
schestowitz	specifically, double-agents with MS and IDG	Jan 13 14:31
schestowitz	Not just MVPs	Jan 13 14:31
schestowitz	they'e self-discrediting	Jan 13 14:31
MinceR	oiaohm: so in short this "Editor in Chief" is not doing his job	Jan 13 14:32
MinceR	despite the title and alleged training	Jan 13 14:32
oiaohm	I really think some of these bad "editors in chief" use spidermans "John Jonah Jameson" as a reference on how to do job.	Jan 13 14:32
MinceR	lol	Jan 13 14:32
oiaohm	Really J. Jonah Jameson the other way of name is a great example of everything a editor in chief should never do.	Jan 13 14:33
oiaohm	http://www.infoworld.com/author/Eric-Knorr/ seriously for person who has got high journalism award over the years the stuff he lets infoworld put out is a complete disgrace.	Jan 13 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Eric Knorr \| InfoWorld		Jan 13 14:40
oiaohm	MinceR: its something when you know that the person does not know what they should be doing but someone like Eric Knorr serous-ally does know so you must presume its for the all mighty dollar.	Jan 13 14:41
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MinceR	i guess it went to hell when someone like rupert murdoch realized that some people don't care for journalism and will pay for someone to lie to them	Jan 13 14:50
oiaohm	MinceR: The sad reality is it cheep to pay someone to write lies than pay someone todo proper journalism. Why proper journalism requires proper fact checking. Yes man proved over and over that people don't do proper fact checking.	Jan 13 14:52
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MinceR	the former pays well because people don't care about facts	Jan 13 14:54
oiaohm	MinceR: rupert mudoch writing papers here in Australia to save on cost had articals ghost written in may papers to fill contents what is completely not journalism before he left Australia and become a USA cit.	Jan 13 14:54
MinceR	if they did, they wouldn't pay for the latter and thus papers would have to do fact checking or fail	Jan 13 14:54
oiaohm	MinceR: note "editors in chief" are not meant to allow ghost written articals either.	Jan 13 14:54
oiaohm	MinceR: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/aug/02/scientists-ghostwritten-articles-fraud some of this stuff that you find IDG and others doing is in fact criminal offenses.	Jan 13 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Scientists credited on ghostwritten articles 'should be charged with fraud' \| Science \| The Guardian		Jan 13 14:58
oiaohm	Really we need some "editors in chief" charged with fraud charges for some of the actions and maybe then they will learn todo their jobs.	Jan 13 14:59
MinceR	will anyone prosecute them for it?	Jan 13 15:00
oiaohm	That is the problem. No "editor in chief" has been prosecuted in 50+ years.	Jan 13 15:01
MinceR	just like the way antitrust regulations are unenforced	Jan 13 15:01
oiaohm	Yep	Jan 13 15:02
oiaohm	Please note anti-trust offenses also apply to some of these "editor in chief" actions.	Jan 13 15:02
oiaohm	So of course you don't see these suspect "editor in chiefs" calling for anti-trust enforcement.	Jan 13 15:03
oiaohm	And of course political parties don't want "editors in chief" doing their job as this would make it so many times harder to push political lies out their.	Jan 13 15:04
oiaohm	MinceR: basically its really simple to see where the problem is. The problem is how in heck to fix it.	Jan 13 15:04
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oiaohm	MinceR: for publications who don't have an assigned "editor in chief" the buck technically stops with the owners and executive. So alway someone is legally responsible for written crap not just the writer. Lot of people don't know that the print shop that produces false documents has a legal responsibility.	Jan 13 15:19
schestowitz	why just blame editor in chief?	Jan 13 15:34
schestowitz	Also, any evidence of ghostwriting here?	Jan 13 15:34
schestowitz	What we have are apple/msft fanbois acting as "journalists"	Jan 13 15:34
schestowitz	that in itself is an editorial assignment issue	Jan 13 15:35
oiaohm	schestowitz: using invalid titles is classed as ghost writing.	Jan 13 15:35
oiaohm	schestowitz: executive editor should be part of the executive,	Jan 13 15:35
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oiaohm	schestowitz: http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html look here there are 5 people infoworld executive. Not one is Galen-Gruman http://www.infoworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ so the title here saying Executive editor is Fraud.	Jan 13 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| About Us		Jan 13 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Galen Gruman \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oetnn ]		Jan 13 15:41
oiaohm	schestowitz: yes Galen-Gruman title be IDC Executive Editor or just Dept Infoworld Editor.	Jan 13 15:43
oiaohm	schestowitz: yep its a repeating mistake http://www.cio.com/about/about.html http://www.cio.com/author/Galen-Gruman/	Jan 13 15:46
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oiaohm	schestowitz: http://www.computerworld.com/about/about.html http://www.computerworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ seams to be a lot of "editor in chief" are down right asleep at wheel.	Jan 13 15:48
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oiaohm	schestowitz: ok http://www.idc.com/about/management.jsp who in heck is Galen Gruman an Executive for. No where can I find where he is one.	Jan 13 15:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/687372341320364032	Jan 13 16:40
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schestowitz	here is MSLinuxFoundation boosting the troll https://twitter.com/linuxfoundation/status/687349397768650752	Jan 13 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxfoundation: "The fact is, Linux makes it possible for developers to create OSes for all sorts of new things." https://t.co/VkyUGYVXNU via @infoworld		Jan 13 16:45
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schestowitz	giving him hits	Jan 13 16:45
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schestowitz	http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-green/2016/01/13/home-office-saudi-arabia-and-the-need-for-a-safe-space/	Jan 13 17:23
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oiaohm	schestowitz: from what I have found that a long while back Galen Gruman was Executive Editor on lots of those different sites. Problem is he is no longer part of the executive those sites. Amazon has it correct http://www.amazon.com/Galen-Gruman/e/B001HCTXE4	Jan 13 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Galen Gruman: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle		Jan 13 17:40
oiaohm	schestowitz: Really shows poor control over sites.	Jan 13 17:40
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schestowitz	oiaohm: so I was right	Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	my memory didn't fail me, he's a Mac cultist	Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	MinceR: see the amazon link above	Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	does IDG employ so-called Linux 'zealots'?	Jan 13 18:22
schestowitz	I guess Swapnil MIGHT count as one	Jan 13 18:22
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Jan 13 18:24
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msb_	I don't think a writer/journalist's credentials or title matter at all. People with excellent credentials and title can be totally corrupt. What matters is whether he's telling the truth or lying. When Gruman writes that Linux does not have a GUI interface for ordinary people, he is simply _lying_. And while it's possible that he's lying because he's all hot for Macs, it's much more likely that he's being paid money to do it.	Jan 13 18:46
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oiaohm	msb_: writer can write almost anything and remain a writer. Journalist on the other hand required the means to register with the likes of http://www.spj.org/ for support in fact checking.	Jan 13 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spj.org \| Society of Professional Journalists \| Improving and protecting journalism since 1909		Jan 13 19:49
oiaohm	msb_: Journalist without registrations that give the contacts to properly fact check cannot do their job as a Journalist. Those registrations depend on not being corrupt.	Jan 13 19:50
oiaohm	msb_: its why I say don't mix up Journalist and Writers. Writers don't have anywhere near the same restrictions.	Jan 13 19:51
oiaohm	msb_: Gruman is only a Writer. Not a Journalist has no Journalist require registrations.	Jan 13 19:52
schestowitz	that's all fine and nice on paper	Jan 13 19:52
schestowitz	journalists have their bises	Jan 13 19:52
schestowitz	biased	Jan 13 19:52
schestowitz	they just hide them	Jan 13 19:52
schestowitz	this one is a pundit	Jan 13 19:52
schestowitz	or writer or whayever	Jan 13 19:53
schestowitz	A lot of the writers there are Windows or Mac authors	Jan 13 19:53
schestowitz	and it's clear what they benefit from financially	Jan 13 19:53
msb_	oiaohm: Anyone can lie. You have a dogmatic way of thinking that leads you to wrong conclusions about systemd, cannabis, police violence, and journalists/writers.	Jan 13 19:53
msb_	A journalist/writer's _history_ of telling the truth or lying, is significant. Their credentials and job title are not.	Jan 13 19:55
oiaohm	msb_: true anyone can lie/bias. A writer there is no major possible punishment. Journalist being using false/spreading facts this effects fact checking this has effects on means to operate profensionally. As schestowitz said profesional Journalist hide them.	Jan 13 19:56
oiaohm	msb_: profesional journalist lie by omission methods most commonly.	Jan 13 19:56
oiaohm	msb_: there is a major difference between a writer and journalist.	Jan 13 19:57
schestowitz	oiaohm: just words	Jan 13 19:57
schestowitz	in practice, when people hear journalist they think "paid"	Jan 13 19:57
schestowitz	so some corporate channel with some agenda pays the writer	Jan 13 19:58
schestowitz	and calls it "journalist"	Jan 13 19:58
schestowitz	it's about salaried and non-salaried	Jan 13 19:58
schestowitz	IIRC, DiFi (Feinstein) wanted to offer protections to writers only if they're paid	Jan 13 19:58
schestowitz	which is probably the opposite of how it should work	Jan 13 19:58
oiaohm	schestowitz: that the thing you don't hear the word Journalist in fact used that much. People have taken on fraud charges using the word Journalist to describe self when they are not.	Jan 13 19:59
oiaohm	Instead you see people who are just writers using the terms like editors and so on.	Jan 13 20:00
oiaohm	schestowitz: here is something shocking only 30 percent of registered journalists are in fact paid.	Jan 13 20:01
oiaohm	msb_: my way of thinking is not dogmatic. Its not based on faith.	Jan 13 20:03
oiaohm	msb_: you cannot even get that right.	Jan 13 20:03
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msb_	oiaohm: Your dogmatic way of thinking causes you to IGNORE REALITY. 1. The _reality_ is that Linux has been working fine without systemd for 25 years and hundreds of millions of installations; any problems have been minor, infrequent, and easily corrected. 2. The _reality_ is that Cannabis has been used and valued by many cultures for thousands of years as an _aid_ to sanity. The US govt has had several major investigations of it and	Jan 13 20:11
msb_	found no significant harm from it. It has been made illegal because it leads people to question authority. 3. The _reality_ is that blunt-force trauma to the head is the _worst_ method of police crowd control except for firing bullets. Firehoses, teargas, batons applied anywhere _but_ the head, neck and spine are much safer. 4. The _reality_ is that any writer/journalist can lie, regardless of their credentials or title. What	Jan 13 20:11
msb_	counts is whether they actually tell the truth or if they lie. oiaohm, these are the _realities_ that your dogmatic thinking, or maybe your hidden evil agenda, cause you to ignore.	Jan 13 20:11
oiaohm	schestowitz: https://www.pressrush.com/outlets/709508/infoworld kinda shocking when you start checking. At infoworld there are only 2 official journalists. Simon Bisson and Eric Knorr	Jan 13 20:13
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oiaohm	msb_: Sorry you are dogmatic not me.	Jan 13 20:13
schestowitz	LOL!	Jan 13 20:15
schestowitz	Bisson?!?!?!!	Jan 13 20:15
schestowitz	Microsoft m***er	Jan 13 20:16
schestowitz	Booster who is also rude	Jan 13 20:16
schestowitz	hardly a journalist in my books	Jan 13 20:16
schestowitz	more like Microsoft marketing	Jan 13 20:16
oiaohm	msb_: "The _reality_ is that Cannabis has been used and valued by many cultures for thousands of years as an _aid_ to sanity. " I have not disputed this once. And the active drug that has those properties CBC not THC. Less than 1 percent THC with high CBC does that.	Jan 13 20:18
oiaohm	msb_: just because something has been used for thousands of years does not mean there is not correct ways to grow it. Its like some root crops that a perfect eatable normally grow them in 25 percent C02 and they produce toxins that kill people.	Jan 13 20:20
oiaohm	msb_: yes how cannabis is propogated is directly linked to how safe it is.	Jan 13 20:20
oiaohm	schestowitz: if you read Bisson work you will find he lies by omission not by in fact writing lies.	Jan 13 20:22
oiaohm	schestowitz: journalists can still be bias that is correct. But they don't use lies to be bias.	Jan 13 20:23
msb_	oiaohm: No. By sanity in this case I am talking about the psychedelic experience -- integrated left/right brain functioning and enhanced memory and body perceptions -- which enables resistance to external programming. This is given by THC, not CBD. You yourself have admitted that you have aberrant mutated (endo-)cannabinoid receptors. This may be a cause of your dogmatic thinking and ignoring of reality. You may be physiologically	Jan 13 20:26
msb_	incapable of integrating your sequential and associative/lyrical minds. In this way, you may be permanently and irretrievably insane.	Jan 13 20:26
oiaohm	msb_: No studies in blind trials give what you decribed to CBD not THC.	Jan 13 20:28
msb_	Your sentence does not parse.	Jan 13 20:28
oiaohm	msb_: all medical studies show without question THC reduces memory.	Jan 13 20:28
oiaohm	msb_: CBD improves memory and reasoning that has been proven in trials.	Jan 13 20:29
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msb_	Pure THC in pill or liquid form without any CBD has been given to people with no harm whatsoever.	Jan 13 20:29
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oiaohm	msb_: Pure THC has been proven todo harm.	Jan 13 20:29
oiaohm	msb_: CBD is what is put in pills to treat disorders.	Jan 13 20:30
msb_	CBD fights cancer. But THC gives the psychedelic experience which is very beneficial psychologically and socially.	Jan 13 20:31
oiaohm	http://www.cureepilepsy.org/research/cbd-and-epilepsy.asp CBD does a lot more than fight cancer	Jan 13 20:32
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oiaohm	msb_: by the way you have it backwards.	Jan 13 20:33
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php the only documented usage of THC is treating cancer.	Jan 13 20:33
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oiaohm	msb_: THC does not work for anything else effectively.	Jan 13 20:34
oiaohm	msb_: mind you CBD has some anti-cancer properites as well as doing many other good things.	Jan 13 20:35
msb_	People all over the world are using high-CBD strains of cannabis to fight cancer.	Jan 13 20:36
oiaohm	msb_: high CDB is also uses to treat mental disorders effecting memory.	Jan 13 20:36
oiaohm	msb_: basically anything brain malfuncting try high CDB it can help.	Jan 13 20:37
msb_	THC promotes the psychedelic experience -- mind integration -- which apparently is inaccessible to you and as meaningless to you as color is to a blind person.	Jan 13 20:37
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msb_	oiaohm: Why is your spelling and grammar so poor? Are you brain-damaged in some additional way?	Jan 13 20:39
oiaohm	msb_: 1 percent THC with the rest being CDB is enough to trigger psychedelic experience. There is no medical documents to show that using THC is any more useful that other drugs that have less brain damage risks.	Jan 13 20:40
oiaohm	msb_: 1 was deaf for the first 6 years of my life. Then only had part hearing for the next 3 years. So all the time frame when language development happens in brain was screwed up.	Jan 13 20:42
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oiaohm	msb_: things have not worked properly for 25 years. Problems with sysvinit started appear 1993 with drive failure issues not being handled well got worse in 2000 with the appearance of Linux Virtual Server. So its been progressively becoming a problem.	Jan 13 20:45
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msb_	oiaohm: I'm sorry that you are brain-damaged. But the cannabinoid receptors in the brain do much more than react to cannabis. The brain produces endocannabinoids, e.g., anandamide, which activate the cannabinoid receptors. This can be illustrated by putting a small amount -- 1/4 teaspoon -- of cocoa under the tongue and keeping it there for 5 minutes with the head tilted back so saliva doesn't wash it away. Cocoa contains anandamide	Jan 13 20:50
msb_	analogs which temporarily block the enzymes that destroy anandamide. This causes anandamide levels to increase, producing, in about four hours, a psychedelic experience like that caused by THC, which lasts another four hours. I've done this myself (with Nestle's cocoa) several times and it has worked. I discussed it with an anandamide researcher and he agreed. Of course it will likely not work at all on you, oiaohm.	Jan 13 20:50
oiaohm	msb_: but that is the thing stuff like anandamide does not cause cell deaths or cause long term blockages like THC can.	Jan 13 20:52
oiaohm	msb_: that is the problem with THC there are safer chemical todo most of it beneficial things unless you are intentionally attempt to treat cancer.	Jan 13 20:53
oiaohm	msb_: even treating cancer using THC you have to consider the damage to otherwise healthy cells it might do.	Jan 13 20:57
msb_	In _reality_ CBD, not THC, is used against cancer.	Jan 13 20:58
oiaohm	msb_: did you not read this link http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php	Jan 13 21:00
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oiaohm	msb_: spain study 2009 shows THC effectiveness against cancer.	Jan 13 21:01
oiaohm	msb_: but due to the side effects of THC the tablets using THC are normally 1percent THC 99 percent CBD.	Jan 13 21:01
msb_	Maybe THC works against cancer too, but most people are using high-CBD strains of cannabis for cancer.	Jan 13 21:02
msb_	Regardless of anything establishment medicine says.	Jan 13 21:02
oiaohm	Non GM modified cannabis that are high-CBD still contain between 0.5 and 1 percent THC.	Jan 13 21:03
oiaohm	msb_: basically miss understanding has happened over cannabis treatment of cancer.	Jan 13 21:03
oiaohm	THC is the active chemical against the cancer. CBD is the chemical to prevent THC doing other harm.	Jan 13 21:04
msb_	CBD is a soporific, a sedative. This is probably why it suppresses epilepsy. It causes the "stoned" immobile feeling from smoking oxidized, high-CBD cannabis. People who want the psychedelic THC experience try to avoid CBD in their cannabis. THC oxidizes to CBD, so people who want the psychedelic experience choose unoxidized pot. This can be selected by noting the color of the leaves, which should be green, not brown. Chlorophyll	Jan 13 21:09
msb_	serves as an oxidation indicator, because it oxidizes under the same conditions -- air, moisture, heat, and time -- that THC does.	Jan 13 21:09
oiaohm	msb_: again wrong.	Jan 13 21:14
oiaohm	CBD pure has no sedative effect.	Jan 13 21:14
oiaohm	THC depending on what is blocking generates the stoned effect.	Jan 13 21:15
oiaohm	msb_: CBD in fact undoes the sedative effect of THC.	Jan 13 21:18
oiaohm	msb_: remember I am in Australia we have GM cannabis that is pure CBD. Most miss understand come from not having that access. Yes good fun let people who like cannabis smoke the GM stuff it looks absolutely the same. But absolutely no effect other than increase focus and thinking speed.	Jan 13 21:21
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msb_	oiaohm: Your idea of "good fun" is as sick as the rest of your ideas. I have wasted enough time with you. You can go on recommending the ruination of Linux with 36 megabytes of systemd garbage, and the murder of protestors by cops hitting them on the head, and discouraging people from using THC and escaping from the dominator programming of the ruling psychopaths, and touting MS "journalists". Go on and do all of these harmful things.	Jan 13 21:29
msb_	You are a grotesque, reality-ignoring, lying propagandist, who loves to argue. I will not waste any more of my time arguing with you.	Jan 13 21:30
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.truthonpot.com/2013/07/31/40-thc-australians-are-growing-the-strongest-pot-in-the-world/	Jan 13 21:30
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oiaohm	msb_: not only do we have the weakest canadbus on earth we have the strongest.	Jan 13 21:30
oiaohm	msb_: the reality here like it or not you have had your facts wrong. 40% THC is not safe.	Jan 13 21:32
oiaohm	msb_: I don't think a Microsoft writer who is not a officially an Journalist deserved to be called on.	Jan 13 21:34
oiaohm	msb_: what wrong with not wanting people to be given false titles.	Jan 13 21:34
cubexyz	I think being a journalist implies some neutrality	Jan 13 21:38
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cubexyz	some Microsoft dude isn't really going to tell you the "real scoop"	Jan 13 21:38
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oiaohm	msb_: by the way if I suggest letting people take small amounts of arsenic to escape from dominator programming of ruling psychopaths( yes small dose arsenic same effects at THC in all ways) Of course that is to most people wrong. Put cannabis in mix and it some how right. Basically lack of analytical thinking.	Jan 13 21:39
oiaohm	cubexyz: common misunderstanding of journalist. Key point of journalist is report true facts. If due to conditions like government/boss restrictions don't report lies leave omissions.	Jan 13 21:41
cubexyz	hardly an ideal situation	Jan 13 21:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: journalist have to operate in a non ideal world.	Jan 13 21:42
MinceR	seems to be mostly a legal issue	Jan 13 21:42
cubexyz	I can say what I want :)	Jan 13 21:42
MinceR	whatever they're called, most people at IDG appear to be habitual liars	Jan 13 21:42
cubexyz	windows 10 fucking sucks :)	Jan 13 21:42
MinceR	who push m$'s agenda	Jan 13 21:42
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oiaohm	MinceR: most people writing for IDG are not journalist but writers. Writers can write from so call personal option and skip over fact checking so basically lie.	Jan 13 21:43
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cubexyz	the old BYTE Magazine was amazing, it was written by techies	Jan 13 21:43
cubexyz	then everything got dumbed down to grade 6 level	Jan 13 21:44
cubexyz	and I'm being generous here by not saying grade 4 :)	Jan 13 21:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: most of the old BYTE Magazine people were officially journalist and techies and it showed.	Jan 13 21:44
oiaohm	You use to have to be a journalist to get press passes.	Jan 13 21:45
oiaohm	These days those restrictions are dropped.	Jan 13 21:45
cubexyz	do they teach any ethics in journalism courses?	Jan 13 21:45
cubexyz	I'm sure they aren't taught to "shill your brains out"	Jan 13 21:46
cubexyz	I blame facebook	Jan 13 21:46
cubexyz	'social engineering'	Jan 13 21:47
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standards yes its part of any true Journalist course. Ok not the exactly common person ethics but fairly close.	Jan 13 21:47
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MinceR	oiaohm: again, that's merely a legal issue	Jan 13 21:47
MinceR	in that some people would be hit harder for lying in press than others, if such rules were enforced at all	Jan 13 21:47
oiaohm	MinceR: not exactly Journalism ethics are enforced by legal and by the bodies supporting Jouralists.	Jan 13 21:48
MinceR	if they're enforced, why are people titled "journalist" lying at IDG and getting away with it?	Jan 13 21:48
MinceR	hungarian tech journalism died long ago	Jan 13 21:49
MinceR	as a result of fighting between publishers, afaict	Jan 13 21:49
MinceR	(yes, IDG was involved too)	Jan 13 21:49
cubexyz	most of the corporate stuff isn't worth reading anyways	Jan 13 21:50
oiaohm	MinceR: if you read carefully most people at IDG are not titled journalist.	Jan 13 21:51
cubexyz	PC World? ugh	Jan 13 21:51
oiaohm	MinceR: and those with the title journalist lie by omission where they did not include the facts.	Jan 13 21:51
oiaohm	MinceR: not where they wrote incorrect facts.	Jan 13 21:51
cubexyz	sure they can spin it	Jan 13 21:51
oiaohm	MinceR: so yes they are playing right on the edge of what Journalism allows.	Jan 13 21:52
oiaohm	Correctly called spin	Jan 13 21:52
cubexyz	emphasize some facts, ignore others	Jan 13 21:52
MinceR	oiaohm: lying by omission is still lying. doing nothing as an alleged "Editor in Chief" while underlings without the title lie is also unethical.	Jan 13 21:52
MinceR	oiaohm: if i read you right, the latter might also be technically illegal.	Jan 13 21:53
oiaohm	MinceR: like reporting from iran or other places if you don't lie by omission it could be death.	Jan 13 21:53
oiaohm	MinceR: journalism allows basically 1 form of tell a lie.	Jan 13 21:54
MinceR	i was hoping redmond, cupertino and raleigh weren't quite like iran yet	Jan 13 21:54
MinceR	oiaohm: what does it allow the "Editor in Chief" to do?	Jan 13 21:54
cubexyz	the chief can decide not to print an article	Jan 13 21:55
cubexyz	or I imagine ask for edits to be made	Jan 13 21:55
oiaohm	MinceR: "Editor in Chief" is meant to have the power to control all content this include enforcing proper titles and rejecting incorrectly written stuff that is not up to Journalism standards. Problem here due to how some of the groups are constructed they don't have the power they should.	Jan 13 21:56
oiaohm	MinceR: also "Editor in Chief" who don't have the power they should by ethic should fall on their own sword.	Jan 13 21:56
oiaohm	MinceR: problem here they don't	Jan 13 21:57
MinceR	"Live by the sword; trip and fall on the sword; die by the sword."	Jan 13 21:57
oiaohm	A writer has the option of going fully personal option and not doing fact checking.	Jan 13 21:58
MinceR	opinion	Jan 13 21:58
oiaohm	Opps thanks.	Jan 13 21:58
MinceR	isn't that required to be marked in a conspicuous manner?	Jan 13 21:58
oiaohm	If person opinion is done by a journalist they have to mark it. A writer only has to mark it if the Editor in Chief has the power to enforce it.	Jan 13 21:59
oiaohm	MinceR: as you can see there is quite a huge gap between what a journalist produces and what someone who is just a writer produces.	Jan 13 22:00
cubexyz	at least blog writers actually write what they think	Jan 13 22:00
MinceR	there's also quite a huge gap between what IDG produces and facts	Jan 13 22:01
cubexyz	there's no corporate agenda	Jan 13 22:01
oiaohm	MinceR: IDG is like 90+% writers	Jan 13 22:01
MinceR	cubexyz: what if the blogger gets gifts from corporate?	Jan 13 22:01
cubexyz	ok, that certainly could be bad	Jan 13 22:01
oiaohm	Writers are not also required as Journalists are to declare conflict of interest like where they have got gifts from corporates.	Jan 13 22:02
oiaohm	So Journalist gets a gift and talks on topic they by code should mention they got it.	Jan 13 22:03
oiaohm	Writer its up to them if they tell you.	Jan 13 22:03
MinceR	again, i wonder if that's enforced	Jan 13 22:04
oiaohm	Heck a Writer does not even have to tell there Editor in Chief.	Jan 13 22:04
MinceR	in which legal systems do these rules apply?	Jan 13 22:05
MinceR	i'm guessing english-style	Jan 13 22:05
oiaohm	Some countries blog writers are registered as Journalists so yes not mention gifts as a Journalist when you enter particular countries you hit criminal charges.	Jan 13 22:05
MinceR	("common law"?)	Jan 13 22:05
oiaohm	MinceR: China was the first to have the law on Journalist on not mentioning gifts.	Jan 13 22:06
oiaohm	MinceR: 2000BC	Jan 13 22:06
MinceR	when did they do that?	Jan 13 22:06
MinceR	ah	Jan 13 22:06
MinceR	i thought it was going to be ancient	Jan 13 22:06
MinceR	most of china has really gone screwed up	Jan 13 22:06
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oiaohm	I am trying to remember the go that when to China back to one of the EU countries.	Jan 13 22:07
oiaohm	MinceR: basically it was imported back.	Jan 13 22:07
DaemonFC	I've been following the Bundy occupation of the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.	Jan 13 22:07
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DaemonFC	MinceR: Apparently he's all proud of himself for "hacking" some government Windows computers at the nature reserve.	Jan 13 22:10
MinceR	lol	Jan 13 22:11
DaemonFC	The "hacking" involved a Linux LiveUSB stick and mounting the NTFS file system to reveal government data about the migratory patterns of birds, or something. I guess.	Jan 13 22:11
DaemonFC	And now the whole world will know! :)	Jan 13 22:11
MinceR	some of our nazis (in jobbik) are islamist sympathizers too, i wonder if they support ISIL too	Jan 13 22:13
oiaohm	DaemonFC: not exactly something to 100 percent laugh about. There was a case of something like that in Australia causing a possible down river flood panic because the computer was transmitting a river datalogger information back to the weather department.	Jan 13 22:13
DaemonFC	MinceR: The conservatives in the US say that the liberals hate Israel and are trying to destroy it. The liberals say the same thing about the conservatives.	Jan 13 22:14
DaemonFC	Small wonder that we give them $80 or $90 billion a year of MY money and haven't decided to carpet bomb them instead.	Jan 13 22:14
oiaohm	DaemonFC: of course computer disconnected the computer was presumed under water.	Jan 13 22:14
DaemonFC	But that's the government for you. :)	Jan 13 22:14
oiaohm	DaemonFC: basically you hope when some breaks into a computer system its nothing important.	Jan 13 22:15
MinceR	basically if it runs winblows, i hope it's not important	Jan 13 22:15
MinceR	can't really trust that garbage with mission critical (let alone life critical) data and processes	Jan 13 22:16
DaemonFC	I'm sure that it wasn't. They're office computers used by government scientists observing the nature reserve.	Jan 13 22:16
oiaohm	MinceR: unfortunately as some weather data logs here showed its not always the case.	Jan 13 22:16
DaemonFC	The US federal government is massive. Parts of it are incompetent. Parts of it are very competent. Parts of it mean well. Parts of it are malicious. It works towards a goal with one agency, and against that goal with another agency.	Jan 13 22:17
oiaohm	DaemonFC: word scientist equals it could be scary depending on what sensors they set up and who they are sending the information to.	Jan 13 22:17
oiaohm	DaemonFC: general patrol office or something like that would not be that worried.	Jan 13 22:18
MinceR	oiaohm: didn't it occur to them that if the only info they have is that they've lost connection to the computer, they should check before raising an alarm?	Jan 13 22:18
DaemonFC	oiaohm: The scariest thing I've read all day is that Dick Cheney spent 8 years planting people in the federal government so that they would keep reporting to him and doing what he told them to long after he left office.	Jan 13 22:18
oiaohm	MinceR: it what you call timing. Same time computer was hacked section in a telephone exchange broke so the contacts could not be contacted.	Jan 13 22:19
oiaohm	MinceR: basically don't underestimate the rule what can go wrong will.	Jan 13 22:20
MinceR	"hacked"	Jan 13 22:20
DaemonFC	MinceR: How the government is handling this case is unbelievable.	Jan 13 22:20
MinceR	oiaohm: don't they have helicopters or something?	Jan 13 22:20
oiaohm	MinceR: no not hacked telephone exchange was vermon.	Jan 13 22:20
DaemonFC	They've allowed the occupiers to shut down an entire town for weeks and there's no end in site.	Jan 13 22:20
DaemonFC	They're even still getting their mail.	Jan 13 22:20
oiaohm	MinceR: the mistake was not checking sat photos before raising alarm.	Jan 13 22:21
oiaohm	MinceR: flood that large was going to show up on sat.	Jan 13 22:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 13 22:21
oiaohm	MinceR: Australia remote telephone exchanges not working you normal have rats followed in by really toxic snakes.	Jan 13 22:22
DaemonFC	You know, I'd think that if everything on an entire continent is trying to kill you, you'd take the hint. :)	Jan 13 22:22
MinceR	:>	Jan 13 22:22
MinceR	DaemonFC: they had the misfortune of being exiled there by the british government, i think :>	Jan 13 22:23
cubexyz	at least the snakes will eat the rats, that's something	Jan 13 22:23
MinceR	:>	Jan 13 22:23
MinceR	possibly the people sent out to fix it too	Jan 13 22:24
oiaohm	cubexyz: problem is the snakes after eating rat normally get stuck than repeatably zapped as people attempt to call the line.	Jan 13 22:24
oiaohm	So very unhappy snake	Jan 13 22:24
MinceR	zap them harder	Jan 13 22:24
MinceR	very dead snake	Jan 13 22:24
MinceR	though snake fried to electrical components might complicate the job a bit	Jan 13 22:25
oiaohm	MinceR: protected species in most cases killing them is 15000 dollars.	Jan 13 22:25
oiaohm	Australians we like making our life harder.	Jan 13 22:25
MinceR	seems like most humans like that	Jan 13 22:26
MinceR	it would explain a lot	Jan 13 22:26
oiaohm	To be truthful it shocked people in perth to find one of the most common walking tracks at any one time you are inside 3 meters of one of the worlds most toxic snakes the complete length and no one gets bitten.	Jan 13 22:27
MinceR	:)	Jan 13 22:27
MinceR	i guess the snake didn't feel threatened	Jan 13 22:27
MinceR	or hungry	Jan 13 22:28
oiaohm	The humans sure did when they found out they had only used that path for 100+ years.	Jan 13 22:28
oiaohm	Yes 100+ years without knowing.	Jan 13 22:28
MinceR	did the snake spend the last 100+ years there?	Jan 13 22:28
oiaohm	Many generations of that snake had been there for 100+ years.	Jan 13 22:29
oiaohm	Many thousands by the bone remains found.	Jan 13 22:29
oiaohm	Fairly much a path made straight though a toxic snake colony.	Jan 13 22:29
MinceR	do they not move around much?	Jan 13 22:29
oiaohm	MinceR: these travel about 2 Km a day.	Jan 13 22:30
oiaohm	MinceR: mostly those snakes don't want to waste poison on something the size of a human they cannot eat.	Jan 13 22:31
oiaohm	about the only way to get bitten by one is by pure determination step on them.	Jan 13 22:31
oiaohm	That type of snake naturally will move out human way.	Jan 13 22:32
oiaohm	MinceR: basically lot of the toxic creatures in Australia are not aggressive to humans. Its more they act in self defense because we can be stupid.	Jan 13 22:33
oiaohm	MinceR: lot of ways dingos are more of a hazard than most of the toxic snakes.	Jan 13 22:35
MinceR	no surprise there	Jan 13 22:38
MinceR	the degradation in dogs shows	Jan 13 22:38
oiaohm	MinceR: the surprise is a kangaroo for idiots is more of a hazard than a toxic snake or dingos.	Jan 13 22:40
oiaohm	Title boxing given to kangaroo is not without good reasons.	Jan 13 22:40
oiaohm	Most of the things in Australia you leave them alone and they leave you alone.	Jan 13 22:41
MinceR	what about dingos and kangaroos?	Jan 13 22:43
oiaohm	Kangaroos if you intentionally get to lose and they cannot see the way out kick the living crap out of you.	Jan 13 22:44
oiaohm	Yes with the powerful back legs they can break you bones no problems.	Jan 13 22:44
oiaohm	lose/close.	Jan 13 22:45
MinceR	but will they leave you alone if you leave them alone?	Jan 13 22:45
oiaohm	Most of the time unless breeding season and 1 decided your front door is its zone and 1 decides you backdoor is the other now you have a problem.	Jan 13 22:46
MinceR	and what about dingos?	Jan 13 22:47
oiaohm	Dingos are scavengers but they have a few extra tricks over dogs. Like being able to dig a 2 foot deep hole in under 2 mins.	Jan 13 22:47
MinceR	sure, but will they leave you alone if you leave them alone?	Jan 13 22:48
MinceR	i'm guessing no	Jan 13 22:48
oiaohm	MinceR: think dingo dug hole leaves does not bother filling in hole.	Jan 13 22:48
oiaohm	It happens to be dark.	Jan 13 22:48
oiaohm	guess how you have a problem.	Jan 13 22:48
MinceR	yeah	Jan 13 22:49
oiaohm	Now of course problems worse if dingo happens to be sleeping at bottom of hole when you step in.	Jan 13 22:50
MinceR	lol	Jan 13 22:51
oiaohm	Basically everyone hears about the toxic creatures and think those are the ones that you have to watch out for.	Jan 13 22:51
oiaohm	Reality its the non toxic ones that are more likely to get you.	Jan 13 22:52
MinceR	venomous, actually :>	Jan 13 22:52
oiaohm	MinceR: there are 1 or 2 snakes in Australia that have really bad personalities but they are in very limited ranges. Those hiss at you if you are in their path if you don't move strike.	Jan 13 22:58
oiaohm	MinceR: of course most people visiting don't go into the parks where those pains in ass are.	Jan 13 22:59
oiaohm	MinceR: I know this is kinda of scary but a lot of vemomous Australian snakes are kept as pets. http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animalprofile.asp?id=113	Jan 13 23:03
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oiaohm	MinceR: sorry wrong link http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animalprofile.asp?pid=41&id=112 Yes strongest venom snake in Australia is keepable as a pet.	Jan 13 23:07
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linuxmodder	thanks for the link to my post on Fedora in most recent post	Jan 13 23:43
cubexyz	one thing I find funny is that not only are there advocates of conspicious consumption (Apple) but there are even people saying we will never run out of oil, so consume away	Jan 14 00:11
cubexyz	it takes millions of years for the oil to form, and the world uses 86 million barrels of crude oil per _day_	Jan 14 00:14
cubexyz	"oh if we run out of oil we'll just do more fracking"	Jan 14 00:15
cubexyz	utter economic mumbo-jumbo	Jan 14 00:17
cubexyz	we have burned through 50% of the world's oil in about a hundred years	Jan 14 00:18
cubexyz	I really wonder if people ever actually think about it	Jan 14 00:18
cubexyz	the survival of civilization is a mere 'externality'?	Jan 14 00:22
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cubexyz	well, at least there's no soylent green yet	Jan 14 00:31
cubexyz	year 2022 isn't that far away :)	Jan 14 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	hits PCs with mouse support and windows	Jan 14 08:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Remix OS's desktop-friendly flavor of Android hits PCs with mouse support and windows \| PCWorld		Jan 14 08:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Auto architect Brenner sees a 'virtuous	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	cycle' in common car software	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y3Fyjwpp77 (www.autonews.com)	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex7o	Jan 14 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.autonews.com \| Android Auto architect Brenner sees a 'virtuous cycle' in common car software		Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AndroidN UK release date, name and feature	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	rumours: 18 May https://t.co/AuVKQHX1xO	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.pcadvisor.co.uk) https://t.co/aRB7Htic8u	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.express.co.uk)	Jan 14 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| Android N UK release date, name and feature rumours - New Product - PC Advisor		Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex7p	Jan 14 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk \| Google just confirmed when you'll get the first glimpse of Android N \| Tech \| Life & Style \| Daily Express		Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: 14 new KILLER features	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ncl7xJXZIF (www.alphr.com)	Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex7r	Jan 14 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com \| Android Marshmallow: 14 new KILLER features \| Alphr		Jan 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Put Android On Your Desktop with Remix	Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	OS https://t.co/dBTnldamqI (lifehacker.com)	Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8o	Jan 14 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| How to Put Android On Your Desktop with Remix OS		Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 22 Years of #LinuxJournal on One DVD - Now	Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	Available	Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LUSQwxumHt (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	going digital. "well over 4,100 articles!"	Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8p	Jan 14 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| 22 Years of Linux Journal on One DVD - Now Available \| Linux Journal		Jan 14 08:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android launcher update adds auto-rotate,	Jan 14 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	forces icon size consistency	Jan 14 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/H1M4a9ERpU (arstechnica.com)	Jan 14 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8q	Jan 14 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Android launcher update adds auto-rotate, forces icon size consistency \| Ars Technica		Jan 14 08:19
schestowitz	http://betanews.com/2016/01/14/microsoft-rebrands-revolution-r-open-will-keep-it-free-and-open-source/	Jan 14 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| Microsoft rebrands Revolution R Open, will keep it free and open-source		Jan 14 08:19
schestowitz	BS	Jan 14 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Living with the Pixel C: The best and worst of	Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	Android in one device https://t.co/tiyIVSsy36	Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.extremetech.com)	Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex92	Jan 14 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com \| Living with the Pixel C: The best and worst of Android in one device \| ExtremeTech		Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 14 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8v	Jan 14 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 08:21
msb_	schestowitz: Great article on IDG, etc! Who would have thought that a site called LinuxInsider is actually anti-Linux? There is just no limit to corporate lying!	Jan 14 08:30
cubexyz	how are they anti-linux?	Jan 14 08:32
schestowitz	> "Doctors and nurses use up to half of their time recording and	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> reporting information"	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> http://www.thelocal.dk/20160112/denmark-is-no-longer-the-country-i-loved-when-i-was-a-young-man	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelocal.dk \| 'Denmark is no longer the country I loved' - The Local		Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> That article is a bit of a rant but the part about recording instead of	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> working is shared by many other jobs not just the medical field. It is	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> probably attributable to the proliferation of Peoplesoft and SAP. Also,	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> many subcomponents of the work environments described there have been	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> privatized, thus increasing up to an order of magnitude in cost.	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> Organizations no longer own their own buildings but must rent the same	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> facilities from a new private entity which is "required" to squeeze	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	> massive "profits" from the activity.	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	Even Microsoft, from my understanding, is starting to rent space.	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	cubexyz: not all the writers	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	some in particular	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	Jack is usually OK	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	and he actually uses Linux	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	the site has a long history...	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	with Enderle as writer	Jan 14 08:33
schestowitz	and editor who never tried Linux	Jan 14 08:34
schestowitz	how can an editor of "Linux Insider" be a person who doesn't know Linux?	Jan 14 08:34
schestowitz	That was published some time around 2008	Jan 14 08:34
schestowitz	it deserved much attention at the time	Jan 14 08:34
cubexyz	yes that does sound ridiculous	Jan 14 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	Warned Not to Use Unstable Repo	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UA1sYxBoh4 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 08:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People Warned Not to Use Unstable Repo		Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Operating System 1.0 Provides New Linux	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop Experience https://t.co/oZXV6YFZWx	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.eweek.com)	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexag	Jan 14 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Solus Operating System 1.0 Provides New Linux Desktop Experience		Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8-Way ARM Board Linux Benchmark Comparison From	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	The PiZero & ODROID To Tegra	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tZy2ay1X4G (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexah	Jan 14 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| 8-Way ARM Board Linux Benchmark Comparison From The Pi Zero & ODROID To Tegra - Phoronix		Jan 14 08:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687628990018883584	Jan 14 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Yup, but a bitch of an EULA...		Jan 14 08:37
schestowitz	yes, people found out...	Jan 14 08:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687629045480095744	Jan 14 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Lords discusses identity cards - News from Parliament - UK Parliament @schestowitz https://t.co/PNExPqcopB		Jan 14 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.parliament.uk \| Lords discusses identity cards - News from Parliament - UK Parliament		Jan 14 08:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687629270873698304	Jan 14 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Those Chinese fellows made a proprietary spaghetti on the (relative) free AOSP		Jan 14 08:39
schestowitz	Noodle code...	Jan 14 08:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687630313242099712	Jan 14 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yes @schestowitz One thing you can guarantee about UK Govt. If they can't screw it up now they'll do it to you at some time in the future.		Jan 14 08:40
oiaohm	schestowitz: cubexyz: there have been some well run papers where the "editor in chief" did not know the topic. Having sub staff doing proper fact checking and then editor in chief allocating stuff to interest non Linux users could have worked in this case.	Jan 14 08:42
oiaohm	Problem here unless it done properly it will not work.	Jan 14 08:43
oiaohm	schestowitz: cubexyz basically the ones that work have a "deputy editor in cheif" that know the field with a "editor in cheif" who does not who job is to make it layout good to those are not in the field.	Jan 14 08:46
oiaohm	Of course Linux Insider does not have that.	Jan 14 08:47
cubexyz	I don't really like any of the linux magazines	Jan 14 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing	Jan 14 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	with Full Video in Compiz	Jan 14 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oxeXlWHkft (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexct	Jan 14 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing with Full Video in Compiz		Jan 14 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LZ4 #Compression Support Is Unlikely For Btrfs	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qYQjqbKA6w (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcu	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	with a New Linux Kernel, Security Fixes	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/njN2awHh2F (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcv	Jan 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| LZ4 Compression Support Is Unlikely For Btrfs - Phoronix		Jan 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships with a New Linux Kernel, Security Fixes		Jan 14 08:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687631092216631296	Jan 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Institute of Directors warns against ‘Stasi-style’ surveillance of employees @schestowitz https://t.co/risNkt248B		Jan 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.yorkshirepost.co.uk \| Institute of Directors warns against ‘Stasi-style’ surveillance of employees - Yorkshire Post		Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hypercharge looks like an amazing UE4 shooter	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	that will support Linux https://t.co/A9qHY4wjgp	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcy	Jan 14 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Hypercharge looks like an amazing UE4 shooter that will support Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 08:52
oiaohm	cubexyz: I find the "Linux Magazine" ok. Does help that it one of the rare ones with properly qualified staff.	Jan 14 08:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687631567016095744	Jan 14 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Cisco kills hardcoded password bug in Wi-Fi access points (they claim) @schestowitz https://t.co/8w0dZI790K		Jan 14 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.net-security.org \| Cisco kills hardcoded password bug in Wi-Fi access points		Jan 14 08:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687634006339366912	Jan 14 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yeh.. @schestowitz <looks around> Can't see any Cisco hardware here... Did a few Cisco courses. Thought... no, don't want that.		Jan 14 08:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: if you go to most news agants this is not a Linux then and do the process of sorting mags by what ones have proper teams of qualified staff against those that don't less than 10 percent of the mag pass. Sadly porn mags are more likely to have properly qualified staff than anything else.	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PulseAudio added to Slackware 14.2 beta 1	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F75tNVV51b (www.slackware.com)	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	(Current (pre-release) ChangeLog for x86_64)	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xL7vGZeVNm (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackware.com \| The Slackware Linux Project: Slackware ChangeLogs		Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexdp	Jan 14 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Slackware 14.2 Beta Released, Now Uses PulseAudio - Phoronix		Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat	Jan 14 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexdq	Jan 14 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 08:57
schestowitz	[13:52] <oiaohm> cubexyz: I find the "Linux Magazine" ok. Does help that it one of the rare ones with properly qualified staff.	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	LM is OK	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	sometimes it does some non-Linux FOSS	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	but that's my only complaint (if ever) about their articles...	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	Some sites are very good	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	The H was good	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	but it's dead now, for years...	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	at least we managed to lobby to keep it online	Jan 14 08:58
schestowitz	Heise took it down	Jan 14 08:58
cubexyz	I noticed they sell individual articles for $3 each	Jan 14 08:59
cubexyz	do they use DRM on the emagazine?	Jan 14 09:00
cubexyz	just curious	Jan 14 09:00
cubexyz	probably all emags have DRM I guess	Jan 14 09:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: Linux Magazine provides 1 instructions to strip DRM off emags two there own is just PDF files.	Jan 14 09:03
oiaohm	I forgot there is one other Linux mag that has a reasonable staff. Linux Format the UK publication.	Jan 14 09:05
oiaohm	Fairly much all the other pure Linux mags staff are made up of a majority of writers not that qualified and it shows.	Jan 14 09:05
oiaohm	Even in the windows mags there are not many with qualified enough staff to write anything useful.	Jan 14 09:06
cubexyz	right, that's why I like the old ones better	Jan 14 09:06
cubexyz	but I tend in that direction anyway	Jan 14 09:06
oiaohm	I have seen a lot of good one off mags.	Jan 14 09:07
oiaohm	Again normally those good ones are writen by one of the authors in Linux Magazine or Linux Format.	Jan 14 09:07
oiaohm	when it comes to Linux.	Jan 14 09:07
oiaohm	The number of people truly qualified and have writing skill is extreamly limited.	Jan 14 09:08
cubexyz	is there a convention for UTF-8 text files?	Jan 14 09:34
*schestowitz loves utf-8		Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3021924/application-development/hooray-microsofts-r-will-remain-free-and-open.html	Jan 14 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Hooray! Microsoft's R will remain free and open \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oexkt ]		Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	> Subtitle, M$ cannot circumvent R's license. The push seems to be to	Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	> force all M$ R users to upload their data to M$ servers (cloud). Which	Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	> NSA programme is applicable there? This is not about statistics it is	Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	> about gathering intel on what research is going on.	Jan 14 09:34
schestowitz	Yes, more control over more data, meaning lockin.	Jan 14 09:34
cubexyz	I usually use *.txt for text files but I should really differentiate ascii text from utf-8 text	Jan 14 09:34
MinceR	R is now "Microsoft's"?	Jan 14 09:35
schestowitz	sort of..	Jan 14 09:35
schestowitz	R isn't owned	Jan 14 09:35
schestowitz	but some companies lead the way in it	Jan 14 09:35
schestowitz	like with apache, systemd...	Jan 14 09:35
cubexyz	who owns apache?	Jan 14 09:35
schestowitz	ASF	Jan 14 09:36
schestowitz	now headed by MS guy	Jan 14 09:37
schestowitz	MS employee	Jan 14 09:37
schestowitz	Ross	Jan 14 09:37
schestowitz	Unless this has changed	Jan 14 09:37
cubexyz	Apache Software Foundation is headed by a M$ person?	Jan 14 09:38
schestowitz	!google ross techrights apache	Jan 14 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Microsoft Coup D'état: After Paying the Apache Software ... - Techrights \| http://techrights.org/2014/11/05/apache-software-foundation-microsoft/	Jan 14 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - ApacheRoss SPS (@ApacheRoss) \| Twitter \| https://twitter.com/apacheross	Jan 14 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Breaking Microsoft's Chains by Moving to LibreOffice \| FOSS Force \| http://fossforce.com/2014/03/breaking-microsoft-chains-moving-libreoffice/	Jan 14 09:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - It Ain't Easy Making Money in Open Source: Thoughts on the ... \| https://www.enterpriseirregulars.com/80464/aint-easy-making-money-open-source-thoughts-hortonworks-s-1/	Jan 14 09:39
schestowitz	see [1]	Jan 14 09:39
schestowitz	> I'm already seeing people confused about "Microsoft R Open". However, I	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> have two comments.	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> First is that R is part of the GNU Project and not likely to succumb	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> lightly:	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> "R is an official part of the Free Software	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> Foundation’s GNU project, and the R Foundation has	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> similar goals to other open source software	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> foundations like the Apache Foundation or the GNOME	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> Foundation."	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> https://www.r-project.org/foundation/	Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.r-project.org \| R: The R Foundation		Jan 14 09:43
schestowitz	> Even R-Studio is dedicated to being open source, as shown in the mission	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> statement:	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> "RStudio has a mission to provide the most widely used	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> open source and enterprise-ready professional software	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> for the R statistical computing environment. These	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> tools further the cause of equipping everyone,	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> regardless of means, to participate in a global economy	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> that increasingly rewards data literacy."	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> https://www.rstudio.com/about/	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rstudio.com \| About \| RStudio		Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> Second, and perhaps more importantly, this push looks like a grab for	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> the data. It looks like M$ wants to spy on what people are researching	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	> by getting chumps to upload (and pay) to M$ servers.	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	yes, Microsoft is trying to become another Google. See what MS does to Android... and how it pushes its "cloud" BS everywhere.	Jan 14 09:44
schestowitz	In my view, in order to stop MS we need to keep showing its relationship with the NSA, inc. back doors. Don't let the Scroogled PR succeed (i.e. painting only Google as a privacy threat).	Jan 14 09:44
MinceR	https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12513861_938699436207923_520216492443926954_o.jpg	Jan 14 09:44
cubexyz	typical microsoft strategy... pot kettle black	Jan 14 09:44
cubexyz	ok I switched the txt to html with charset=UTF-8	Jan 14 09:50
cubexyz	then I put all the UTF-8 stuff surrounded by </pre>	Jan 14 09:50
schestowitz	^Hello ^Hworld	Jan 14 09:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ'		Jan 14 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 09:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OUYA is blocking a Linux version of That	Jan 14 09:57
TweetTuxMachines	Dragon, Cancer being on Steam	Jan 14 09:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/64eSkkiiZG (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 09:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexo8	Jan 14 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| OUYA is blocking a Linux version of That Dragon, Cancer being on Steam \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CES 2016: Much ado about bots and drones	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qnoWvoZSUC (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	"frenzied fiends run Linux."	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexof	Jan 14 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| CES 2016: Much ado about bots and drones · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	Windows https://t.co/j8F7E9JvN3 (betanews.com)	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexoh	Jan 14 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft Windows		Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9xbtGnWHnv (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexoi	Jan 14 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)		Jan 14 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.4	Jan 14 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	LTS https://t.co/RqjZH7TP6h	Jan 14 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexos	Jan 14 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS		Jan 14 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool	Jan 14 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	fanlessly https://t.co/8UbhMAq9jA	Jan 14 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 14 10:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel...'		Jan 14 10:00
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft Windows...'		Jan 14 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 14 10:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687651640065847296 https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687651695598432258	Jan 14 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Patents only make climate change worst, as oil companies patents everything around green technologies #patent #climatechange		Jan 14 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz worse		Jan 14 10:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687648189126701056	Jan 14 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @AmChamEU_Trade @TTIPAction @Alliance4TTIP @TABC_Council @ert_eu Free trade and free market are not compatible with intellectual monopolies.		Jan 14 10:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687616788608212993	Jan 14 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest technical is a restatement of the same problem.		Jan 14 10:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687616939045351425	Jan 14 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest And the "technical" black hole is a German concept, so it stops at the German border.		Jan 14 10:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687642130102226944	Jan 14 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @abaipl @ipwatchdog Patent system is not compatible with a free market.		Jan 14 10:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687642308880252928	Jan 14 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @grimborg @eventbrite Coming to FOSDEM? Will do the IOT devroom the whole saturday...		Jan 14 10:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sparkycollier/status/687657708804149248	Jan 14 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparkycollier: Can't believe I am agreeing with this guy. https://t.co/IFu6nMghfT		Jan 14 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ex-NSA chief defends end-to-end #encryption , says ‘backdoors’ will make us less secure https://t.co/Q0bh86pnaL #hayden		Jan 14 10:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/margaretthatch/status/687662750563221504	Jan 14 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@margaretthatch: @schestowitz @01micko Same complaint in Netherlands (Europe)		Jan 14 10:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687627583232569345	Jan 14 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Doctors and nurses use up to half of their time recording and reporting information" https://t.co/UL7dtLZ6U1		Jan 14 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thelocal.dk \| 'Denmark is no longer the country I loved' - The Local		Jan 14 10:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JohnEdwards33/status/687648968805867520	Jan 14 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnEdwards33: Looks like Coe might have to get his running shoes back on.. Lord Coe under intense pressure after doping report https://t.co/MpsGYbipzK		Jan 14 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Lord Coe under intense pressure at IAAF after damning WADA doping report - Telegraph		Jan 14 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with	Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)	Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	@ChronolabsCoop https://t.co/9xbtGnWHnv (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 10:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)		Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of	Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	Life on February 4, 2016	Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/A3TRZ4TvXg (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 10:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of Life on February 4, 2016		Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New	Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates	Jan 14 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5L1jScZNnb (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 10:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates		Jan 14 10:55
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962645	Jan 14 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google I/O 2016 event dates and location revealed http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021857/android/google-io-event-date-set.html #scale and #fodsem coming as well. http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/01/ill-be-at-scale-and-fosdem-how-about-you.html #android #google #freesw		Jan 14 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Google I/O 2016 event dates and location revealed \| Network World [ http://ur1.ca/oexzg ]		Jan 14 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.jospoortvliet.com \| all mine!: I'll be at SCALE and FOSDEM, how about you? [ http://ur1.ca/oexzh ]		Jan 14 11:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962621	Jan 14 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RemixOS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction https://tlhp.cf/remix-os-review/ #android #linux		Jan 14 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tlhp.cf \| Remix OS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction – The Linux Homefront Project		Jan 14 11:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962966	Jan 14 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lots of discussions today about how #microsoft is E.E.E.ing R language. This is another example of the dangers posed by Microsoft. #privacy		Jan 14 11:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962631	Jan 14 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google implements feature that would benefit the #nsa agenda a lot http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/13/google-maps-for-androids-new-driving-mode-guesses-where-you-want-to-go/ http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/13/google-maps-for-android-gets-predictive-with-driving-mode/ #googlemaps #surveillance		Jan 14 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com \| Google Maps for Android's new Driving Mode guesses where you want to go \| VentureBeat \| Apps \| by Emil Protalinski [ http://ur1.ca/oexzl ]		Jan 14 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com \| Google Maps For Android Gets Predictive With Driving Mode \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/oexzm ]		Jan 14 11:09
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schestowitz	http://www.infoq.com/news/2016/01/chakracore http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/01/microsoft-might-be-developing-windows-10-for-arm-based-processors/ http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/microsoft-chakra-javascript-engine-goes-open-source-now-available-via-github-14-01-2016/	Jan 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com \| Microsoft Open Sources Chakra and Wants to Run Node.js on It [ http://ur1.ca/oey1y ]		Jan 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com \| Microsoft Might Be Developing Windows 10 For ARM-Based Processors [ http://ur1.ca/oey1z ]		Jan 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com \| Microsoft Chakra JavaScript Engine Goes Open Source Now Available Via GitHub (video) - Geeky Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/oey20 ]		Jan 14 11:23
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/687669184302551040	Jan 14 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz thus anonymity as import as free speech if not even more		Jan 14 11:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687671256737538050 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687669021349642240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668753912467456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668481026842624	Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Amid #microsoft #openwashing campaign the company's boosters, Patrizio in this case, spread "MS loves Linux" lie https://t.co/l4UYMs376I		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Microsoft open sources Edge JavaScript code, plans Linux port		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft advocacy sites ensure that anyone who ever heard of #chakraLinux will now be confused https://t.co/ecWxr6lMhU #openwashing		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.winbeta.org \| The Microsoft Edge ChakraCore is now available via GitHub repository – WinBeta		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Names like "ChakraCore" imply core, i.e. proprietary with some #openwashing at the core https://t.co/OFR27zNNqv https://t.co/FFSWQARbiE		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tomshardware.com \| Microsoft Releases Its JavaScript Engine As Open Source 'ChakraCore'		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| The Latest Openwashing by Microsoft Gives False Impression of Microsoft’s Proprietary Spyware/Malware Being ‘Open’ and Linux-friendly \| Techrights		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft advocacy site helps the #microsoft "loves" propaganda (Linux, OSS etc.) https://t.co/B1u6ImZNKG see https://t.co/FFSWQARbiE		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.neowin.net \| Microsoft open-sources key components of the Chakra JavaScript engine		Jan 14 11:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668274134388737 https://twitter.com/feed_berita/status/687666882845913089 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687665657186529280 https://twitter.com/MartinXRugby/status/687636330327703552 https://twitter.com/KennySkyNews/status/687637652821176321	Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft wants to find volunteers to build malware https://t.co/0kN4gdlitX it came from above? https://t.co/Ft7YxrY7Dm		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Microsoft wants you, yes you, to write bits of Windows 10. For free • The Register		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@feed_berita: 'Corruption embedded within IAAF' -- report: Senior figures at the International Association of Athletics Fede... https://t.co/1hZO5wc0ST		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> da.feedsportal.com \|		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: You know that competitive sports died when the "winners" aren't the people who are hard(est working but the best cheaters e.g. Armstrong		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MartinXRugby: The IAAF council, which includes current president Lord Coe, "could not have been unaware of the extent of doping in athletics” #WADAReport		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KennySkyNews: IAAF President Lord Coe is in the room to hear findings of World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission. https://t.co/dBaG0dTOcJ		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KennySkyNews: IAAF President Lord Coe is in the room to hear findings of World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission. https://t.co/dBaG0dTOcJ		Jan 14 11:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/687641984744448001 https://twitter.com/ringsau/status/687646732117741568	Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrdanwalker: Bizarre that Lord Coe is sitting in a press conference where WADA are releasing details of corruption at the IAAF - which he heads!		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ringsau: WADA IC Report part 2 "Corrupt Conduct" IC demolishing Lord Coe's "just a few bad apples" analogy. Putrid. https://t.co/N3HirMNEsv		Jan 14 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ringsau: WADA IC Report part 2 "Corrupt Conduct" IC demolishing Lord Coe's "just a few bad apples" analogy. Putrid. https://t.co/N3HirMNEsv		Jan 14 11:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/687673232648974337	Jan 14 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz If the NHS doesn't sell them off first, just had first hand experience with this. Sold to a corrupt charity.		Jan 14 11:34
schestowitz	Good point	Jan 14 11:34
oiaohm	schestowitz: most people are not aware that MS SQL Server is based on very old postgresql.	Jan 14 11:37
oiaohm	schestowitz: difference now Microsoft is having to start the projects to attempt to get free labour not just pouch stuff.	Jan 14 11:38
MinceR	i though it was based on ingres, like postgres	Jan 14 11:44
MinceR	(and most other sql servers)	Jan 14 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale	Jan 14 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	released as last of the 17 line	Jan 14 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LeUSmCNN7K (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 11:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale released as last of the 17 line • The Register		Jan 14 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Thunderbird 38.5.1 Just Landed in	Jan 14 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu with a Ton of Security Updates	Jan 14 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RGVe2SmUHI. (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://news.softpedia.com/news/mozilla-thunderbird-38-5-1-just-landed-in-ubuntu-with-a-ton-of-security-updates-498915 )		Jan 14 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GrQKzQey5r (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iBhIakaVNQ (hexus.net)	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZPRXAm4sL9 (www.legitreviews.com)	Jan 14 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs		Jan 14 11:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexus.net \| Nvidia GeForce Experience Beta adds new capture, mic features - Software - News - HEXUS.net		Jan 14 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.legitreviews.com \| GeForce Experience Beta Adds New Streaming Features - Legit Reviews		Jan 14 11:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687677316982550528	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah,	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	we're messing with you https://t.co/nIe2GYjBKs	Jan 14 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Do you think MS will axe R for Linux ?		Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 11:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah, we're messing with you • The Register		Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	European Countries Early 2016	Jan 14 11:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nyHQWHStcu (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 14 11:56
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schestowitz	probably perturb it (OOXML, Azure, etc.)	Jan 14 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other European Countries Early 2016 - Tizen Experts		Jan 14 11:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962851	Jan 14 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly http://linuxgizmos.com/compact-rugged-pc-packs-xeon-heat-keeps-cool-fanlessly/		Jan 14 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/oey6o ]		Jan 14 12:01
schestowitz	"Fanless! instabuy <3 great, hopefully for german market too"	Jan 14 12:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962277	Jan 14 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Reform That Would Help Little Guy https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/16143033314/qualcomm-says-fighting-little-guy-while-really-blocking-patent-reform-that-would-help-little-guy.shtml #patents		Jan 14 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Patent Reform That Would Help The Little Guy \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oex61 ]		Jan 14 12:02
schestowitz	"yes, imho. I have the oneplus one with Snapdragon 801 - snappy performance"	Jan 14 12:02
schestowitz	"Black Duck Software liked your Tweet "	Jan 14 12:11
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 14 12:11
schestowitz	trying to suck up to me?	Jan 14 12:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960521	Jan 14 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For those who still believe that proprietary software can be secure and can be trusted based on brand/s, see #cisco #juniper and #fortinet		Jan 14 12:13
schestowitz	"Where else but in software would someone trust someone else more, if that person refused to show them what they were doing…"	Jan 14 12:13
schestowitz	Good point	Jan 14 12:13
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schestowitz	lol https://linuxmodder.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/bomb-threats-us-schools/	Jan 14 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com \| //PG-13 DISCLAIMER// Recent Bomb Threats against some of our most vulnerable citizens, our kids. \| Linux-modder's Tech Corner [ http://ur1.ca/oeyam ]		Jan 14 12:22
schestowitz	I thought he was being sarcastic	Jan 14 12:22
schestowitz	linking to Fox 'news', too	Jan 14 12:22
schestowitz	and "think about the children"	Jan 14 12:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "MEPIS 11 will be effectively EOL and with no	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	further development" https://t.co/CbO9iee90t	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	(ostatic.com)	Jan 14 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Ubuntu's New Feather, MEPIS Extinct, Fedora N-1 Upgrades		Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Bluetooth audio no longer accepts ALSA as the	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	output driver." https://t.co/fWS5csbd34	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	(alien.slackbook.org)	Jan 14 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org \| Alien Pastures » PulseAudio comes to Slackware-current Beta		Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Big Updates We Want From Android in 2016	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yiKYOyBMLH (gizmodo.com)	Jan 14 12:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| 5 Big Updates We Want From Android in 2016		Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android N: Split screen, merged Chrome OS, RCS	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	adoption and other expected features from	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	Android 7.0 https://t.co/MvoTtTU7ei	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.co.uk)	Jan 14 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeybm	Jan 14 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Android N: Split screen, merged Chrome OS, RCS adoption and other expected features from Android 7.0		Jan 14 12:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ScottsHumor/status/687692391650881536	Jan 14 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ScottsHumor: .@schestowitz Two years after Kiev fascist coup, Russia plans to form three west-oriented army divisions in 2016 https://t.co/JjzXNY0dMs		Jan 14 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HPC research cluster get Red Hat OpenStack	Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	private cloud https://t.co/FwxnwXnNvr	Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeydy	Jan 14 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| HPC research cluster get Red Hat OpenStack private cloud		Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zimbra Collaboration Suite (Open Source	Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	Edition) review https://t.co/pMF7rG4lV1	Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Zimbra Collaboration Suite (Open Source Edition) review \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The only small-screened Android phone worth	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	buying is coming to the US	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5tpiCFk5He (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The only small-screened Android phone worth buying is coming to the US \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SSH Hole and Other Security News	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJdIuGN7yO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeye4	Jan 14 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SSH Hole and Other Security News \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Future Fedora upgrades https://t.co/v3ycbqiWJQ	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeye5	Jan 14 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Future Fedora upgrades \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/LkQeITw20j	Jan 14 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'gnome desktop: A settings design update https://t.co/vLZCo3iKYc https://t.co/WLb6iAdDwO...'		Jan 14 12:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) Gets Linux Kernel 4.4...'		Jan 14 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection released for	Jan 14 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux & SteamOS https://t.co/ldLOWXnNoZ	Jan 14 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyed	Jan 14 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with...'		Jan 14 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tiny Core piCore 7.0 Raspberry Pi Edition Now...'		Jan 14 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.52 LTS Has Numerous IPv6 Improvements,...'		Jan 14 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection released for Linux & SteamOS \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Google #Chrome Users Will Push Content to #Chromecast...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships with a...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxsado favourited 'Medieval II: Total War Collection released for Linux...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of...'		Jan 14 12:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 12:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 12:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687692569980067840	Jan 14 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Revo Analytics is to R what RH is to Linux ? Man... We're screwed.		Jan 14 13:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687697138030129153	Jan 14 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Do you mean Javaflat?		Jan 14 13:09
schestowitz	No, c#	Jan 14 13:10
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oiaohm	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/20/google_swallows_apps_prices_docs/ hmm Microsoft up to old games.	Jan 14 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Google swallows your Docs bill from Microsoft, pitches for user familiarity • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oeyg4 ]		Jan 14 13:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687698452764061696	Jan 14 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Bad joke, I admit.		Jan 14 13:12
schestowitz	Never heard this one before...	Jan 14 13:12
oiaohm	The bundling deals noted in that post.	Jan 14 13:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Thunderbird 38.5.1 Just Landed in Ubuntu with...'		Jan 14 13:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux https://t.co/GrQKzQey5r...'		Jan 14 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs		Jan 14 13:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687699939397386241	Jan 14 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz There is a curious overlap between programmers and musicians...		Jan 14 13:19
schestowitz	or writers	Jan 14 13:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/687700799477149697	Jan 14 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: The whole 'LTS' thing continues to elude Fedora project. Not that I mind - I like my bleeding-edge new shinies! :) https://t.co/UsRigfsC76		Jan 14 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Future #Fedora upgrades https://t.co/IcAmy4E62m #redhat #gnu #linux		Jan 14 13:20
schestowitz	Qt5 and KF5 bled me to death	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Brian Proffitt: How do you Fedora?	Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/veFS9G9Iyd (fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 14 13:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/brian-proffitt-fedora/ )		Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Future Fedora upgrades https://t.co/n1pneHQk4J	Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 14 13:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/future-fedora-upgrades/ )		Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The only small-screened Android phone worth	Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	buying is coming to the US	Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kLIhJGMjIr (arstechnica.com)	Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyhm	Jan 14 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| The only small-screened Android phone worth buying is coming to the US \| Ars Technica		Jan 14 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kdenlive 15.12.1 released	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NsqBQVqlAh (kdenlive.org)	Jan 14 13:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org \| Kdenlive 15.12.1 released \| Kdenlive		Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	MJ Technology https://t.co/cjl1pl0Ldu	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyhx	Jan 14 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology		Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pretty Nasty DHCP Vulnerabilty Closed in All	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	Supported Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/oaX2ZAnKjQ	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com) not just #ubuntu but	Jan 14 13:27
TweetTuxMachines	other distros	Jan 14 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Pretty Nasty DHCP Vulnerabilty Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes		Jan 14 13:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/687701360855232512	Jan 14 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 Total idiocy. Yeah, ban it for average Joe, make everyone vulnerable; except the people they were targeting		Jan 14 13:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/687703023376818177	Jan 14 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Well done @UbuntuTouchOS team ;) https://t.co/6UXe9HZIJ9		Jan 14 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Powerful #Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from #MJTechnology https://t.co/KaOhudPaDk #linux		Jan 14 13:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/687703135989661697	Jan 14 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz @Softpedia Great to see this on the market ;)		Jan 14 13:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/marijnvriens/status/687712632606998528	Jan 14 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marijnvriens: @schestowitz @gnutelephony @fossbytes14 it's only failed if you assume that the stated reasons are the real ones.		Jan 14 14:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687713929498238976	Jan 14 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Very sinister forces are at work to make sure we don't live TOO long. https://t.co/U7kRAScvcW https://t.co/jWe6KCsqWV		Jan 14 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Warning: BHT may make you young & crazy. Documentary proof: https://t.co/89l3JqlGr2 This message has not been approved by the FCC or SEC.		Jan 14 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another #epo #patent to help guard #monopoly on #cancer treatment https://t.co/YBG4jvowaZ see https://t.co/fMb3DGEcTK		Jan 14 14:14
schestowitz	Pensions for baby boomers	Jan 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "SCaLE 14x, we will give a talk focused on	Jan 14 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	helping speakers provide a more positive	Jan 14 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	experience for their audiences."	Jan 14 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kFjZ1y96hg (opensource.com)	Jan 14 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeynr	Jan 14 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| 10 tips for providing a better conference experience \| Opensource.com		Jan 14 14:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/687724248010518530	Jan 14 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #Microsoft's cash cow is still Windows+Office sales. "about 80 percent of Microsoft profit" https://t.co/IQKEDfN5Lf cc/@schestowitz		Jan 14 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com \| Smartphones Aren't PC's Only Nemesis - Bloomberg Gadfly		Jan 14 14:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687724353232867329	Jan 14 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz So relieved Gen. M. Hayden (ret.) is coming around 2 the Light Side (...?!?), that I re-quote myself, https://t.co/AsJmXpJzoe		Jan 14 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cryptostorm_is: This is the single the best summation of 20 years of internet privacy & security progress we've read in... forever: https://t.co/65NfYSCaL6		Jan 14 14:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687726746070691840	Jan 14 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @fcassia @schestowitz But what really concerns me is WINDOWS 11.11.11 running on the Grey Goo [tm] (EU Pat. Pend.)		Jan 14 15:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/akionux/status/687728455979409408	Jan 14 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@akionux: RT @schestowitz #spam and #malware exploits #letsEncrypt https://t.co/eKRb6lJsic … https://t.co/vngU0vV5TH		Jan 14 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/07/n )		Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> status.akionux.net \| Friday, 15-Jan-2016 05:10:14 JST における Akio Nishimura (akionux) のステータス - status.akionux.net		Jan 14 15:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @lollisoft favourited '"SCaLE 14x, we will give a talk focused...'		Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FOSS Events: SCaLE 14x, FOSSASIA 2016, DevConf	Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/kzJvzYIoUu	Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyx5	Jan 14 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FOSS Events: SCaLE 14x, FOSSASIA 2016, DevConf 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient:	Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	Vaishali Thakkar https://t.co/ZEYDTsZUqi	Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyx7	Jan 14 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Vaishali Thakkar \| Linux.com		Jan 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Reiser4 & ZFS Get Updated For The Linux 4.4	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel https://t.co/fU2TL2W1o6	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyyf	Jan 14 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Reiser4 & ZFS Get Updated For The Linux 4.4 Kernel - Phoronix		Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS & XFS File-Systems Updated For Linux 4.5	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iI5D4VVMeG (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyyi	Jan 14 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| F2FS & XFS File-Systems Updated For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 11.1.1 https://t.co/PZXbGcXIA6	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/7ixYcKCOMd	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyyj	Jan 14 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Mesa 11.1.1 available, has patches for GRID Autosport \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mesa 11.1.1 3D Graphics Library Released with GRID Autosport Patches, 50 Bugfixes		Jan 14 15:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6963284	Jan 14 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology http://news.softpedia.com/news/powerful-ubuntu-tablet-is-going-on-sale-from-mj-498924.shtml		Jan 14 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology		Jan 14 15:31
schestowitz	"	Jan 14 15:31
schestowitz	Those are actually some pretty great specs. Shame about that crazy bezel though. :P	Jan 14 15:31
schestowitz	That being said, I’m always happy to see new #Linux tablets come out, particularly #Ubuntu ones.	Jan 14 15:31
schestowitz	"	Jan 14 15:31
schestowitz	just needs a peripheral mini-USB keyboard...	Jan 14 15:31
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schestowitz	> I will as soon as I get home & finish working with Boris making sure heś	Jan 14 16:07
schestowitz	> done with his homewor. I have my writings at my home laptop.	Jan 14 16:07
schestowitz	Some Spaniards are linking to it in social media.	Jan 14 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuCon Summit in California to Cover	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	Convergence, Gaming, IoT, and Everything Else	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FdOFvfjqhM (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oez5m	Jan 14 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| UbuCon Summit in California to Cover Convergence, Gaming, IoT, and Everything Else		Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2016 Linux Plumbers Conference Call for	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	Microconferences https://t.co/7BBHyEK6pK	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	(lwn.net)	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oez5n	Jan 14 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| 2016 Linux Plumbers Conference Call for Microconferences [LWN.net]		Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Auto coming to 40 car models this year	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hdQMXXyt47 (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 14 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oez5o	Jan 14 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Android Auto coming to 40 car models this year \| PCWorld		Jan 14 16:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/6877455645539328024	Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 14 17:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/687745564553932802	Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: OK, if use coral prog simular to dos & linux more precision, safety...if u have the money, knowledge ;) linux=good2 https://t.co/LmqMNRO1KZ		Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #AMD Seattle Support In The #Linux #Kernel Still Getting Squared Away https://t.co/WxvpsaNFhF		Jan 14 17:01
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EnVogueRogue/status/687760944336912384	Jan 14 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Seattle Support In The Linux Kernel Still	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Squared Away https://t.co/pyweglR2tB	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 17:31
schestowitz	who own it?	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezhj	Jan 14 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| AMD Seattle Support In The Linux Kernel Still Getting Squared Away - Phoronix		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Airtop Is One Of The Coolest Linux-Friendly	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	PCs Ever For Enthusiasts	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/evBHFBcirl (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 17:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| The Airtop Is One Of The Coolest Linux-Friendly PCs Ever For Enthusiasts - Phoronix		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	Such A Community Project	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bO1BRc9kIn (www.techdirt.com)	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezhl	Jan 14 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com \| Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian Such A Community Project \| Techdirt		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezhn	Jan 14 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial intelligence software \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FSF/GNU/GPL: GCC, Denemo, Copyleft	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EHaSwENuIv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezhp	Jan 14 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FSF/GNU/GPL: GCC, Denemo, Copyleft \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/8EHWDLeMPr	Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manage your Linux Box with htop	Jan 14 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/78s8fVESkx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezi0	Jan 14 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manage your Linux Box with htop \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian	Jan 14 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	Such A Community Project	Jan 14 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tJpvBDpEvq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezi3	Jan 14 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian Such A Community Project \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:33
*TweetTuxMachines @jsfour favourited 'Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G'		Jan 14 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial	Jan 14 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G	Jan 14 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@brainchatbot (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 18:05
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MinceR	http://40.media.tumblr.com/f590931e75623a5e1f7888a3eca668b9/tumblr_ntw7xvdLx01s0lrzfo1_1280.jpg	Jan 14 18:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687773690294067200	Jan 14 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @bastianbest @glynmoody @techdirt What's next in the list? Patent over mental acts because they can be overcome with technical?		Jan 14 18:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/687776357955317760	Jan 14 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @zoobab @schestowitz @bastianbest @techdirt well, quite...		Jan 14 18:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/_Canidae/status/687775791879327744	Jan 14 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Canidae: We really need a new company to create good OSes. https://t.co/6Y2rw0A1xh		Jan 14 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft is really trying to piss people off and make #vista10 synonymous with #malware https://t.co/jc7ZgiqIzq https://t.co/Ft7YxsfIuU		Jan 14 18:34
schestowitz	How about Linux Mint?	Jan 14 18:34
MinceR	trusting a company to create a good OS -- has he learned nothing?	Jan 14 18:37
MinceR	mint is crap	Jan 14 18:37
oiaohm	MinceR: its not that companies cannot make good OS. Historically OS built to meet USA rainbow books(a security standard) were good quality.	Jan 14 18:42
MinceR	they're merely not motivated to do so	Jan 14 18:43
oiaohm	Like no one buys a car without making sure it has a road worthy certificate.	Jan 14 18:43
MinceR	and even if one attempts to do so, m$ and crApple would kill them before they could succeed	Jan 14 18:43
MinceR	maybe even hatred would join	Jan 14 18:43
oiaohm	Yet people buy OS with making sure it design to one of the core security standards.	Jan 14 18:43
oiaohm	And has conformance tests passing.	Jan 14 18:44
oiaohm	MinceR: Linux kernel is guilty at times having good enough quality control for security reasons.	Jan 14 18:44
oiaohm	So this crappy security stuff is not just restricted to Microsoft.	Jan 14 18:45
oiaohm	Or Apple	Jan 14 18:45
oiaohm	It something over all we need to demand a lot more of.	Jan 14 18:45
MinceR	and we're getting less and less of	Jan 14 18:47
MinceR	as our computers are getting locked down and we're getting locked out of them	Jan 14 18:48
MinceR	and our software and content demands to take over control	Jan 14 18:48
MinceR	https://56.media.tumblr.com/6bcfe655a2a8ed136187906ec1f04ac3/tumblr_o0yimvpOWD1tulhy0o1_1280.jpg	Jan 14 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH	Jan 14 18:51
TweetTuxMachines	Hole https://t.co/er8KBAWsPg (techrights.org)	Jan 14 18:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezsi	Jan 14 18:51
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH Hole https://t.co/er8KBAWsPg'		Jan 14 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH Hole \| Techrights		Jan 14 18:51
oiaohm	MinceR: more people are starting to come aware how they are locked out.	Jan 14 18:54
oiaohm	MinceR: please remember faulty(intentionally so) ACPI tables prevented Linux and BSD from working properly in fact prevented windows without extra drivers from working on them out the box.	Jan 14 18:54
oiaohm	MinceR: and that was 1996	Jan 14 18:55
MinceR	i'm seeing more people accepting being locked out the norm and even demanding it	Jan 14 18:55
oiaohm	phoninx bios has supported checksumed MBR since 1993 with the means to write checksum into flash so preventing booting any OS with a different MBR.	Jan 14 18:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jiji29z/status/687785300932820992	Jan 14 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jiji29z: @schestowitz @addhdgamer I just threw up in my mouth. 😨		Jan 14 18:56
oiaohm	MinceR: basically the lock down features were demanded all the way back in 1993.	Jan 14 18:57
MinceR	"features"	Jan 14 18:57
oiaohm	They are features in a computer lab to prevent people messing up the systems.	Jan 14 18:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/addhdgamer/status/687785502263619584	Jan 14 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@addhdgamer: @jiji29z @schestowitz ikr smh gold diggers		Jan 14 18:58
MinceR	so, "messing up" is the new word for "using"	Jan 14 18:58
MinceR	good to know	Jan 14 18:58
*MinceR goes to "mess up" his web browser		Jan 14 18:58
oiaohm	MinceR: from my point of view we need the security features but once someone opens the case you should be able to over ride it.	Jan 14 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Server Hardening	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZkZEovxJbq (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeztw	Jan 14 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| Server Hardening \| Linux Journal		Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Goodwill team up to	Jan 14 18:59
oiaohm	Basically physical security on case bipassed on modern motherboards removing TPM is possible.	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	provide free Linux training in Central Texas	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BnFfjl3I1i (lwn.net)	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezty	Jan 14 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Linux Foundation and Goodwill team up to provide free Linux training in Central Texas [LWN.net]		Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/GbaPikxgnW	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeztz	Jan 14 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software (Opera, PacketFence,	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	CrossOver) https://t.co/TKqyckvhYR	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezu1	Jan 14 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software (Opera, PacketFence, CrossOver) \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 18:59
oiaohm	MinceR: the big problem to me is the items like intel firmware protection where the signing key is written into motherboard chipset by fusable links so not changeable.	Jan 14 19:00
oiaohm	Also that stunt is not new either.	Jan 14 19:01
MinceR	many of those "features" are unnecessary, and could be replaced with much simpler and more effective implementations	Jan 14 19:01
MinceR	like hardware switches or read-only flash storage device ports	Jan 14 19:01
oiaohm	MinceR: you don't know my history.	Jan 14 19:01
MinceR	also, smartcard readers	Jan 14 19:01
oiaohm	In 1994 my code crippled a complete complete UNI because it was self replicatating and firmware embedding. I sent it in as a example code to demo a security flaw to a person with a PHD in Information technology.	Jan 14 19:02
MinceR	why did they let it into the wild?	Jan 14 19:03
oiaohm	and they did not obey my instructions of running it in a isolated network.	Jan 14 19:03
oiaohm	The thing restricted it spreed to local LAN.	Jan 14 19:03
oiaohm	If I had made the thing Internet aware it would have been major problems.	Jan 14 19:03
oiaohm	MinceR: gigabyte dual bios is designed to allow countering my example code.	Jan 14 19:04
oiaohm	MinceR: so by my history checksum checking firmware and limiting what can replace firmware is required feature. Now of course I know with possibility of key breach its also required for some direct physical method to change the key.	Jan 14 19:06
MinceR	preventing software from writing to firmware would be sufficient	Jan 14 19:07
oiaohm	Basically intel current implementation is missing a key feature I class as mandatory required.	Jan 14 19:07
MinceR	it would also be more secure than playing with cryptography	Jan 14 19:07
oiaohm	MinceR: gigabyte 1 firmware is read only and 1 is writeable so you can reset the pest always.	Jan 14 19:07
oiaohm	But you still want to prevent when updating a damaged or modified firmware without you knowing going in.	Jan 14 19:08
oiaohm	MinceR: to be truthful intel reference implementation is missing 2 features I class as mandorary. 1 means to change the signing key for firmware. 2 dual firmware with 1 firmware read only or firmware update tool(read only) and bios setup so no matter what has happened you can get a valid not infected firmware into the system.	Jan 14 19:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/687790178631573504	Jan 14 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education https://t.co/pps19BokNv #Clinton #GMOs		Jan 14 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com \| Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation, Clinton Ties, and Control of Education \| Techrights - Linkis.com		Jan 14 19:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/687788175981424641	Jan 14 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Only the good die young		Jan 14 19:17
schestowitz	Steve Job was not good...	Jan 14 19:17
oiaohm	MinceR: https://firmware.intel.com/sites/default/files/resources/A_Tour_Beyond_BIOS_Implementing_TPM2_Support_in_EDKII.pdf you know the mess about SHA1 being broken recently. This means all TPM 1.2 and before chips are now insecure.	Jan 14 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Graphics: NVIDIA, Mesa 11.1.1, Gallium3D,	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	Wayland... https://t.co/oGk3TbrV1w	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezww	Jan 14 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Graphics: NVIDIA, Mesa 11.1.1, Gallium3D, Wayland... \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Kernel https://t.co/qEqKoFsrRv	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezwx	Jan 14 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/JLUg4DMeZT	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezwy	Jan 14 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 19:19
oiaohm	MinceR: the practical problem with security. When tech gets old it fails. So what ever is your security device of firmware need to be replaceable/updatability. I know this might seam like too much common sense but why could not the firmware image validation be placed in a small microcontroller embedded in the normally removable firmware chip.	Jan 14 19:23
oiaohm	You want to do your own custom firmwares buy replacement chip.	Jan 14 19:24
MinceR	because they don't want to let you do your own custom firmware	Jan 14 19:24
MinceR	they want you to be a guest on your "own" computer	Jan 14 19:24
oiaohm	Problem is if the don't want you replacing firmwares sooner or latter the method they choose to sign/check firmware will have a flaw so people can replace the firmware again.	Jan 14 19:25
oiaohm	Security is a every changing problem.	Jan 14 19:26
oiaohm	Opps ever	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Papo & Yo finally has a Linux version on Steam,	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	two years later https://t.co/IhzN3T2Kig	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezxw	Jan 14 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Papo & Yo finally has a Linux version on Steam, two years later \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7raMUwsWlI (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezxx	Jan 14 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes		Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bijou Linux autopilot takes to the skies	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PjSjdfwuat (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezxy	Jan 14 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Bijou Linux autopilot takes to the skies • The Register		Jan 14 19:27
oiaohm	MinceR: basically I want the best OS security I can have with the technology that we have. Not having means to audit firmware and update security systems around firmware does not sit well we me.	Jan 14 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now	Jan 14 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 14 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7K21vMwgpE (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezy4	Jan 14 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS		Jan 14 19:28
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 14 19:28
oiaohm	well with me.	Jan 14 19:29
oiaohm	MinceR: its where we are different I don't want min. I want max but in my control.	Jan 14 19:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH Vulnerabilities in All Supported...'		Jan 14 19:30
MinceR	oiaohm: looks like neither of us will have what we want	Jan 14 19:31
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 14 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready	Jan 14 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones	Jan 14 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qoHGARzTHh (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 19:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones		Jan 14 19:32
oiaohm	MinceR: we do have problem with each other because due to my prior experence I don't see no security on firmware as a safe or sane option. What made my thing so much of a hazard is hide in firmware for 48 hours before stopping the system all that time spreeding to other machines in the network.	Jan 14 19:34
oiaohm	MinceR: so only way to remove it was basically fix all the firmware at once by bringing the complete network down and finding every single machine.	Jan 14 19:35
MinceR	i don't consider locking the user out "security"	Jan 14 19:38
MinceR	and i've seen "security" being used the excuse for DRM way too many times	Jan 14 19:39
MinceR	also, i have no illusions about security when the attacker has physical access to the computer	Jan 14 19:39
MinceR	unless the disk is encrypted and one never tries to decrypt it on any computer the attacker had physical access to	Jan 14 19:40
oiaohm	MinceR: you have never faced for against a firmware infecting virus right?	Jan 14 19:46
oiaohm	for/off	Jan 14 19:46
MinceR	indeed	Jan 14 19:46
oiaohm	MinceR: basically that is where we are very different.	Jan 14 19:47
oiaohm	Basically I have. So do want barriers that are controlable around the firmware. Hard drive infections are fairly simple to deal with. Remove the harddrive.	Jan 14 19:47
oiaohm	The reality is if you asked me how would I attack the current intel setup with unlimited resources. Simple enough go to motherboard maker with some government force and demard they give me the signing keys so I can custom patch the firmware.	Jan 14 19:49
oiaohm	Now attacking a system where the buyer has had the option to replace all the keys is a lot harder problem.	Jan 14 19:50
oiaohm	MinceR: the more of a mono culture something is the simpler it is to make effective attacks.	Jan 14 19:51
oiaohm	Once attack is detected by someone and reported its a very limited time before it effectiness drops.	Jan 14 19:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wowbagger999/status/687801599356481536	Jan 14 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wowbagger999: Logo-Woche der freidrehenden #DMCA Juristen: Zuerst Metallica vs Coverband, jetzt Bernie Sanders vs #Wikimedia https://t.co/9r7FrESaJ1		Jan 14 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bernie Sanders' Campaign DMCAs #Wikimedia For Hosting His Logos https://t.co/VyfJfApm3L #dmca is an abuser's dream		Jan 14 20:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/687802519062450176	Jan 14 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz Good. He can go to Italy and run for office there. Sorry Italy, didn't mean that.		Jan 14 20:06
schestowitz	Italy is still recovering...	Jan 14 20:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/687804024557551616	Jan 14 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz Jerry Hall? Haven't heard that name in decades. I'd like to see the expression on ol' Mick's face when he reads that news item.		Jan 14 20:11
oiaohm	schestowitz: got some bad new Bernie Sanders take down request is most likely legal.	Jan 14 20:11
oiaohm	schestowitz: wikipedia most likely should have water marked them as copyright protected materials copyed using fair usage.	Jan 14 20:12
oiaohm	schestowitz: same techically applies to when you use company logos without approval on documentation.	Jan 14 20:13
oiaohm	schestowitz: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia This is the problem on wikimedia. Not clearly tagging images that are not for free reuse.	Jan 14 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commons.wikimedia.org \| Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia - Wikimedia Commons		Jan 14 20:17
oiaohm	schestowitz: australia we have fairdealing not fair-usage. Fair Dealing suxs. Because 1 for content like Bernie Sanders asked to be taken down you would have had to send a email/letter asking permission before using it in the first place and wait a fair amount of time for response(90 days). 2 if they send back no if you use it water mark the hell out of it and be sure that you can explain to a court that there was no other way of presenting it.	Jan 14 20:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for...'		Jan 14 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WYULCLmVeF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of041	Jan 14 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yO4khq0hT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of042	Jan 14 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 20:25
oiaohm	schestowitz: and if you did not get an answer granting permission you still watermark the hell out of it and document that you never got answer.	Jan 14 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cynthia Harvey's New Big Data Series	Jan 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5yD1UgHhWi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of047	Jan 14 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cynthia Harvey's New Big Data Series \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Agencies look to public for digital work on	Jan 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	open source https://t.co/R5Kpin4dDl	Jan 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of048	Jan 14 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Agencies look to public for digital work on open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 20:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 14 20:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for...'		Jan 14 20:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 14 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5 Kernel	Jan 14 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eL35yjVCP8 (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of06i	Jan 14 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5 Kernel - Phoronix		Jan 14 20:45
schestowitz	[01:11] <oiaohm> schestowitz: got some bad new Bernie Sanders take down request is most likely legal.	Jan 14 20:45
schestowitz	That's not the point	Jan 14 20:46
schestowitz	and that's not what this dispute is about	Jan 14 20:46
schestowitz	Just because it's legal to do something doesn't mean you should do it	Jan 14 20:46
schestowitz	so debating the legality of it isn't the point	Jan 14 20:46
schestowitz	if it was not legal, the scandal might get bigger	Jan 14 20:47
schestowitz	but that's not what the main point of contention is	Jan 14 20:47
oiaohm	schestowitz: legality is kind of part of the point.	Jan 14 20:50
oiaohm	This is a case it take two to tango.	Jan 14 20:51
oiaohm	wikimedia/wikipedia has been way too lax not putting watermarks over stuff used by fair usage.	Jan 14 20:51
oiaohm	This lets people know that to use this content they better have justification.	Jan 14 20:52
oiaohm	Now if those images had been watermarked and Bernie Sanders was asking for taken down then it would have been completely in the wrong.	Jan 14 20:52
oiaohm	Heck just adding a boarder around image with used under fair usage for wikipedia as part of history recording would have protected them as well.	Jan 14 20:54
oiaohm	Fair usage allows you to reuse stuff as long as the reason is valid and its part of another work.	Jan 14 20:55
oiaohm	schestowitz: yes I am annoyed that Bernie Sanders did the take down but to prevent future cases the same wikimedia/wikipedia needs to lift their game.	Jan 14 20:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/687815221780430848	Jan 14 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz wicked. That's all seriously important stuff		Jan 14 21:07
*TweetTuxMachines @RemoteWorkingCo favourited 'HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5...'		Jan 14 21:12
schestowitz	oiaohm: maybe some lawyers, not Sanders' idea	Jan 14 21:14
schestowitz	not that it excuses him	Jan 14 21:14
schestowitz	but alas, another showing of why DMCA is messed up	Jan 14 21:15
schestowitz	gn	Jan 14 21:15
msb_	Now US govt, in a procedure called SOP303, can shut off phone and Internet service in an area as large as an entire city. in case of "an emergency". Obviously to prevent people from communicating about evil govt operations.	Jan 14 21:42
*TweetTuxMachines @packetfence favourited 'Leftovers: Software (Opera, PacketFence, CrossOver) https://t.co/TKqyckvhYR'		Jan 14 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software (Opera, PacketFence, CrossOver) \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now	Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TpfQAcUO2L (gettopical.com) via	Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines	Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of0fn	Jan 14 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS		Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5 Kernel	Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2iloRgWplq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of0fo	Jan 14 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 21:54
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/comparison-different-os-df.txt	Jan 14 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenSSH Bug https://t.co/4MJk8oqMU5	Jan 14 22:00
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oiaohm	msb_: http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Standard_Operating_Procedure_303 its been there for a while.	Jan 14 22:08
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oiaohm	msb_: it was done in George W. Bush first term SOP303 is over 10 years old.	Jan 14 22:10
cubexyz	why in the world would anyone want all the phones knocked out?	Jan 14 22:11
cubexyz	the idea seems stupid	Jan 14 22:11
cubexyz	you wouldn't be able to call for an ambulance, or call the fire department, or the police	Jan 14 22:13
oiaohm	cubexyz: in Australia is restricts calls to be only to 000 being emergency.	Jan 14 22:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: I don't know what USA configuration is.	Jan 14 22:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: with bushfires and other things in Australia that have caused major telelphone system damage forcing a lot of the system on to backup power systems locking calls to be 000 or 211(mobile 000 equal) reduces number of calls and extends operational time of the network.	Jan 14 22:37
oiaohm	cubexyz: Yes shutting down internet services is another power saving move.	Jan 14 22:38
oiaohm	cubexyz: basically if SOP303 matches Australian equal it is ok. Problem here is the questions NCC asks as far as I know are not public. Australia one is negotiation between carriers and police and emergency.	Jan 14 22:39
cubexyz	oiaohm, seems like someone does think like me after all:	Jan 14 23:59
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I still have a working pent 233	Jan 15 00:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: just kept around for laughs.	Jan 15 00:06
oiaohm	cubexyz: and as a by bed table as it a full towercase	Jan 15 00:06
oiaohm	cubexyz: I have seen a working sparc server that is 30 years old.	Jan 15 00:07
cubexyz	sure, my vic-20 was made in 1981 and it still works	Jan 15 00:07
cubexyz	I don't use it very often though	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	Ok not quite	Jan 15 00:08
oiaohm	1987 sparc server	Jan 15 00:08
cubexyz	same age as my amiga	Jan 15 00:08
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oiaohm	You have to remember it remains cool even if you stop all it cooling fans	Jan 15 00:08
oiaohm	So it has excessive cooling.	Jan 15 00:09
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is a server that has been in 24/7 usage since 1987	Jan 15 00:09
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cubexyz	oiaohm, running 24/7 may actually help the longevity	Jan 15 00:11
cubexyz	it means it stays at roughly the same temperature all the time	Jan 15 00:12
cubexyz	the most fragile parts seem to be burners and optical drives	Jan 15 00:13
oiaohm	cubexyz: its gone months in the log of the fans not working.	Jan 15 00:14
oiaohm	cubexyz: and other horible life shorting faults.	Jan 15 00:14
cubexyz	like what?	Jan 15 00:14
oiaohm	Shorts due to geckos dieing on critical parts.	Jan 15 00:14
cubexyz	does a computer that old have any temperature sensors?	Jan 15 00:15
oiaohm	Smell getting attention.	Jan 15 00:15
cubexyz	oh	Jan 15 00:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: temperature sensors has been in server hardware for a very long time.	Jan 15 00:16
oiaohm	cubexyz: I think late 1970s they first appeared.	Jan 15 00:16
cubexyz	yeah the PDP-10s had that actually	Jan 15 00:17
cubexyz	maybe even older stuff did too	Jan 15 00:17
cubexyz	I think very old Univacs had water cooling, and they may have had some sort of temperature guage	Jan 15 00:18
cubexyz	didn't old steam locomotives have a temp gauge?	Jan 15 00:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: steam locomotives have a pressure gauge yes pressure and temp do line up, Water level and pressure gauges is all steam trains need.	Jan 15 00:19
cubexyz	I think bimetallic tempature switches have been around a long time	Jan 15 00:21
cubexyz	I'm just thinking about the first computer to have a temperature sensor	Jan 15 00:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: http://www.simopek.de/sites/default/files/08.IBM_.Data%20Center%20Thermal%20Management%20for%20High%20Density%20and%20Efficiency.pdf You might like this one with modern day data center water cooling.	Jan 15 00:24
cubexyz	1998 tyan had temp sensors, but how much further back it goes I'm not sure	Jan 15 00:25
cubexyz	ha, look at those old Univac mag tape drives	Jan 15 00:26
oiaohm	cubexyz: PDP-10 is 1968	Jan 15 00:28
cubexyz	oiaohm, the PDP-10s persisted into the 1980s	Jan 15 00:29
cubexyz	only the very first ones were made in 1968, otherwise I would have never worked on one	Jan 15 00:29
oiaohm	cubexyz: temp sensors was old tech by 1987 its one of the major differences between early personal computers and the mainframes of that time. Yes the mainframe servers had temp sensors.	Jan 15 00:29
cubexyz	oiaohm, yes but when did BIOS start supporting temp sensors?	Jan 15 00:30
cubexyz	how far back does that go?	Jan 15 00:30
oiaohm	Even today cups on Linux keeps the mainframe printer message if printer does not respond of printer on fire.	Jan 15 00:30
oiaohm	cubexyz: I think 286 had temp sensors.	Jan 15 00:31
cubexyz	it's not in the generic 8088 bios, I just checked	Jan 15 00:33
oiaohm	cubexyz: yep 286 is the earliest in standard conforming x86 where you find temp sensors.	Jan 15 00:33
cubexyz	oiaohm, there's nothing in the IBM AT BIOS for temperature	Jan 15 00:34
cubexyz	and I don't remember ever seeing it either	Jan 15 00:35
cubexyz	even in the 386 era I don't think it was common	Jan 15 00:37
cubexyz	Univac magnetic tape drives from 1951 actually were the very first magnetic tape data storage	Jan 15 00:39
cubexyz	Univac I	Jan 15 00:40
cubexyz	286 cpu just didn't get very hot	Jan 15 00:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: 286 on AT motherboards it was a motherboard temp sensor not a CPU one.	Jan 15 00:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: 386 before in cpu temperature sensor and more fancy things.	Jan 15 00:45
cubexyz	oiaohm, wouldn't there still be something in the BIOS for it, or was it completely separate?	Jan 15 00:45
oiaohm	cubexyz: the tempeture sensor was in the real-time clock.	Jan 15 00:46
oiaohm	cubexyz: so not bios.	Jan 15 00:46
oiaohm	Yes the 286 realtime clock was based of chips that were used in mainframes where everything at that stage had tempeture sensors.	Jan 15 00:47
cubexyz	ok, let me check Dallas DS 1287, that seems to be about the right era	Jan 15 00:48
oiaohm	cubexyz: some 80186 computers had same type of real-time clock.	Jan 15 00:48
cubexyz	if there's no mention of temp in the data sheet then that's conclusive	Jan 15 00:49
oiaohm	Hmm I know it was in that section of board.	Jan 15 00:51
cubexyz	24-pin encapsulated package	Jan 15 00:54
cubexyz	ah, unfortunately the PDF is rasterized and no OCR was done	Jan 15 00:55
cubexyz	it's just a real time clock with some RAM	Jan 15 00:58
cubexyz	no temperature sensing abilities	Jan 15 00:58
cubexyz	but if you have an old 286 and it uses the Dallas DS 1287 then you would need to replace it	Jan 15 01:00
cubexyz	and stupidly, some manufacturers soldered the IC onto the motherboard	Jan 15 01:01
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msb_	RT is showing a documentary about _acid attacks_. This is a monstrosity I had never heard of before. In strongly male-supremacist nations, men throw acid -- sulphuric, nitric, hydrochloric -- into the faces of women who refuse their sexual advances, or even wives who don't bring enough dowry to the wedding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing	Jan 15 10:54
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abeNd-org	yep, but feminism is strong here in the states, where every male is 110% evil	Jan 15 11:12
abeNd-org	.....yet the movement does nothing for places where acid throwing or the such happens	Jan 15 11:12
abeNd-org	the movement can't get their lattes in countries like that	Jan 15 11:12
oiaohm	msb_: History there has been many strongly male-supremacist nations include many time frames in China and England. Acid attacks does not just align to strongly male-supremacist nations, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/copycat-acid-attack/	Jan 15 11:18
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oiaohm	msb_: heck acid attacks are not only performed by males as that example from the USA shows.	Jan 15 11:19
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/02/history_of_acid_violence_when_did_people_start_throwing_vitriol.html This covers the history of acid attacks.	Jan 15 11:20
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msb_	The vast majority of such attacks are as I said.	Jan 15 11:21
oiaohm	msb_: countries that acid attack females there is normally females doing to to males for being unfathful.	Jan 15 11:21
oiaohm	msb_: Lot of reporting gets sexually bias very quickly.	Jan 15 11:23
abeNd-org	either way, it shouldnt be happening	Jan 15 11:24
oiaohm	msb_: Current reports "80 percent of victims of acid violence are women" the other 20 percent are men.	Jan 15 11:25
abeNd-org	& most of that is probably by other men, for the same reasons they do it to women	Jan 15 11:25
oiaohm	abeNd-org: no most of the men if you dig deep enough is their wifes.	Jan 15 11:26
abeNd-org	oh im sure that happens, im not doubting that	Jan 15 11:27
abeNd-org	im just saying its probably alot of "alternative lifestyles" too	Jan 15 11:27
abeNd-org	but anyway you slice it, no one should be tossing acid at another person for sexual reasons	Jan 15 11:28
oiaohm	Basically big cultural problem to settle relationship problems using acid and violence instead non-violence means.	Jan 15 11:28
abeNd-org	its a good thing that no one has figured out how to throw acid at another person over the internet	Jan 15 11:29
abeNd-org	unless that was really what was behind all those exploding laptop batteries!?	Jan 15 11:29
oiaohm	abeNd-org: with drone delievery its possible.	Jan 15 11:30
XRevan86	abeNd-org: Does Windows count as acid?	Jan 15 11:30
abeNd-org	yea, ive already seen cases of toolshed kiddies strapping laserpens to drones & thinking that is fun to shine at people	Jan 15 11:30
abeNd-org	XRevan86: no, the only thing windows does is burn through your time & pocketbook, it doesnt burn your skin, so it is not an acid	Jan 15 11:31
MinceR	171240 < abeNd-org> the movement can't get their lattes in countries like that	Jan 15 11:31
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 11:31
msb_	abeNd-org: "feminism is strong here in the states, where every male is 110% evil" I didn't know we had a woman-hater here.	Jan 15 11:32
abeNd-org	msb_: woman hater no, just wish that since the movement is so strong here, they would point some of that towards countries where things like acid throwing is so common	Jan 15 11:33
oiaohm	msb_: 20 about percent of physcal domistaic volicence is performed by women. This is the same globally even in countries where acid is not used.	Jan 15 11:34
MinceR	i didn't know everybody who isn't a crybully is a woman-hater	Jan 15 11:34
msb_	What does "crybully" mean?	Jan 15 11:35
MinceR	same as SJW	Jan 15 11:35
XRevan86	Basic problem here is that there are people out there who think that plain existence of some other kinds of people is offending to them.	Jan 15 11:36
oiaohm	msb_: scary part is back tracking cases of domestic violence 90 percent of male domestic violence offenders where taught it by their mothers.	Jan 15 11:36
oiaohm	Yes really simple to say 110% of men are evil then not take responsibility for raising them that way.	Jan 15 11:37
abeNd-org	no, im all for equal rights, but that movement is more or less on its way here, so why not start spreading it worldwide where in some places womens rights are way way behind where they are at stateside	Jan 15 11:37
msb_	So that can be good or bad. It's good to campaign against computer games that teach boys to kill women.	Jan 15 11:37
msb_	That's how SJWs got started.	Jan 15 11:38
oiaohm	msb_ should not it be against any game teaching you to kill???	Jan 15 11:38
cubexyz	space invaders? :)	Jan 15 11:38
XRevan86	Tetris	Jan 15 11:38
cubexyz	I think Tetris is safe	Jan 15 11:39
XRevan86	cubexyz: What about all those innocent bricks?	Jan 15 11:39
MinceR	i don't remember any videogames that teach how to kill women	Jan 15 11:40
MinceR	then again, one could say that a videogame in which enemies are all male does not represent women, and is thus evil	Jan 15 11:41
abeNd-org	and people (male or female) not being able to tell video games or other forms of entertainment apart from real life are a different problem, that is where mental health care worldwide is failing	Jan 15 11:41
MinceR	but yeah, crybullies seem to have started with attacking video games and the people who play them	Jan 15 11:41
oiaohm	msb_: Its not only boys who play violence based computer games.	Jan 15 11:42
MinceR	abeNd-org: no problem, we'll just ban every aspect of our culture msb_ does not indulge in and everything will be a-ok	Jan 15 11:42
oiaohm	http://psychcentral.com/news/2015/07/10/violent-video-games-reduce-stress-up-aggression/86677.html There is data on computer games.	Jan 15 11:42
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abeNd-org	MinceR: oh man, that reminds me of the days of diablo1 where I would play using my wife's name as the archer character, some of the things other people would say to me, good grief no wonder there arent many female gamers...	Jan 15 11:42
oiaohm	Playing non violent computer games is fairly good for you.	Jan 15 11:42
cubexyz	well you could also say chess is violent	Jan 15 11:43
abeNd-org	oiaohm: so what about violent puzzle video games?	Jan 15 11:43
XRevan86	Chess knows no mercy.	Jan 15 11:43
abeNd-org	cubexyz: battlechess,oh the early days of computer gaming	Jan 15 11:43
abeNd-org	don't forget monopoly, that could possibly be the worlds most violent board game ever	Jan 15 11:43
oiaohm	abeNd-org: most puzzle games are in the non violent camp and by medical studies good for you.	Jan 15 11:43
cubexyz	ok, frogger then :)	Jan 15 11:44
cubexyz	you try to avoid getting squished	Jan 15 11:44
cubexyz	the most non-violent game ever	Jan 15 11:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: frogger you are playing the victim not the aggressor. Even so your world view is minor bent by it. Way less than more realistic violent games.	Jan 15 11:45
abeNd-org	oiaohm: I'll stop playing Lara Croft Go then, then again I hear Hitman Go is an even more violent puzzler	Jan 15 11:45
oiaohm	abeNd-org: note I said most to every rules there are items that don't fit. Hitman does that copy realistic violence causing desensitisation.	Jan 15 11:46
oiaohm	Lot of the same rules that apply to video games also apply to moves.	Jan 15 11:47
MinceR	does Nim depict robbery, violence, or both?	Jan 15 11:48
oiaohm	Something else is between 4-20 years of age the core of your personality is set. So what you are exposed to in that time has lasting effects. Younger a person is exposed to violence the more desensitised to it they can be.	Jan 15 11:50
oiaohm	Yes people letting there kids be baby sat by violent computer games or videos is not doing the community any good.	Jan 15 11:52
MinceR	i wonder what sort of personality keeping children ignorant of everything but the happiest, nicest aspects of life results in	Jan 15 11:52
oiaohm	MinceR: overly trusting sucker.	Jan 15 11:52
MinceR	yeah, that's one thing	Jan 15 11:53
MinceR	also, if someone can't stand seeing any signs of harm or violence, they'll be exploited more easily	Jan 15 11:53
XRevan86	MinceR: The proper term is "loh"	Jan 15 11:53
oiaohm	For real world living person has to be exposed to conman trickery. So they have to be exposed to a percent of the nasty aspects.	Jan 15 11:54
MinceR	XRevan86: the proper term for what?	Jan 15 11:54
XRevan86	MinceR: For this kind of person.	Jan 15 11:54
MinceR	ah	Jan 15 11:54
MinceR	i don't remember seen that word ever before	Jan 15 11:54
XRevan86	MinceR: Well, it's Russian, but very accurate :)	Jan 15 11:55
MinceR	ah, it's russian	Jan 15 11:55
MinceR	i did learn _some_ russian, but wasn't exposed to slang :)	Jan 15 11:55
XRevan86	> (Russian Wikipedia) loh – jargon expression, means a simpleton that allows to be screwed up with, potential victim of fraud.	Jan 15 11:58
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 11:58
oiaohm	MinceR: I am trying to remember the USA group the one that uses like horse drawn wagons and so on. They have low access to artificially generated violence materials. Result over all is very low community violence.	Jan 15 11:59
XRevan86	for instance, targeted auditory of spam	Jan 15 11:59
oiaohm	MinceR: basically lots of long term studies into the problem.	Jan 15 11:59
abeNd-org	oiaohm: there are Mennonites & a bunch of others like that	Jan 15 12:00
MinceR	what i've read contradicts that	Jan 15 12:00
abeNd-org	but those communities have violence too	Jan 15 12:00
abeNd-org	and there was violence in all communties long before video games/TVs/electricity	Jan 15 12:00
cubexyz	I bet cavemen were pretty violent	Jan 15 12:01
abeNd-org	so leaning on the crutch of "video games cause all violence" is pretty irresponsible	Jan 15 12:01
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abeNd-org	the only time human on human voilence will end, is when humanity ends	Jan 15 12:04
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 12:05
MinceR	apparently humans have figured this out as they're making great effort to that end	Jan 15 12:05
oiaohm	abeNd-org: in the Mennonites vs Amish been interesting. Violences in Amish have been trigger historically by false prophet starting todo violence in other words the "Overly trusting sucker problem". Yet the Mennonites who have a more open access policy has a higher violence rate.	Jan 15 12:08
oiaohm	Basically long lasting fairly peaceful communities give us clues how to address the problem. But not one has the absolute correct solution.	Jan 15 12:09
oiaohm	abeNd-org: part of committing violence requires being desensitised to it.	Jan 15 12:11
oiaohm	abeNd-org: so video games and movies are two possible sources to make desensitised state. Of course watching repeated real world violence over and over again is going to cause the same problems.	Jan 15 12:12
MinceR	part of not being disabled by being threatened with or witnessing violence also requires being desensitized to it	Jan 15 12:12
MinceR	there's also the issue of people not being able to tell the difference between reality and fiction	Jan 15 12:13
MinceR	part of which is known as "religion"	Jan 15 12:13
abeNd-org	so how is it you are desensatized to violence by watching videos over & over again, but not desensatized to cute kitten videos by watching those all the time, cant have it both ways.	Jan 15 12:14
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 12:14
oiaohm	MinceR: that is a common mistake. Combat training to respond and defend self does not require you to be desensitized to it.	Jan 15 12:14
MinceR	how will you get combat training without seeing violence?	Jan 15 12:15
MinceR	will you abstract it to rainbows hitting fluffy pink clouds?	Jan 15 12:15
abeNd-org	nerf guns!	Jan 15 12:15
oiaohm	abeNd-org: is kind of correct. training against knives you use rubber ones and train the correct move into the sub mind so you do the protect action without thinking. Does not matter if your rational brain in is shock from the violence.	Jan 15 12:16
MinceR	how will you perform the correct action if you're in shock?	Jan 15 12:17
oiaohm	MinceR: do you think about everything you are doing when you are walking right.	Jan 15 12:18
oiaohm	People in shock walk.	Jan 15 12:18
oiaohm	Combat is no different.	Jan 15 12:18
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MinceR	combat may require tactical thinking at least	Jan 15 12:18
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oiaohm	MinceR: you perform tactical thinking when walking on uneven ground. You just don't notice it.	Jan 15 12:19
oiaohm	What you need to perform for combat does not need to use any section of brain that need to make major choices so good training is not effected by shock.	Jan 15 12:19
oiaohm	MinceR: I have knocked 3 guys lights out while I was a sleep. If you are high enough trained you don't even have to be awake or have your eyes open to perform combat.	Jan 15 12:21
MinceR	it might help, though	Jan 15 12:21
oiaohm	I am faster when I am asleep then awake.	Jan 15 12:22
oiaohm	So more deadly a sleep than awake.	Jan 15 12:22
MinceR	are you more accurate if your eyes are closed?	Jan 15 12:22
oiaohm	For hart strikes yes guided by sound of hart beat.	Jan 15 12:23
oiaohm	Those are 1 hit drop/kill moves.	Jan 15 12:24
MinceR	will the sound of a heartbeat tell you how your opponent is trying to defend themselves?	Jan 15 12:24
abeNd-org	We should ask a blind martial arts master	Jan 15 12:25
oiaohm	To see opponent is use tonal clicks. So form of human sonar.	Jan 15 12:25
oiaohm	Allows you to fight in pure darkness.	Jan 15 12:26
MinceR	or you could just open your eyes	Jan 15 12:27
oiaohm	MinceR: using eyes does provide more exact data on person physical position as long as there is light todo so.	Jan 15 12:29
oiaohm	But its also more information to process.	Jan 15 12:29
oiaohm	So slows reflex time.	Jan 15 12:30
MinceR	it's fine, there's dedicated circuitry to do that	Jan 15 12:30
oiaohm	Other than the fact you are in fact using visual processing on audio. That is why it so high speed.	Jan 15 12:31
oiaohm	a few blind guys have started to work out they can ride push bikes solo and other things by using the same method.	Jan 15 12:32
oiaohm	Detail is lower you cannot seen anything smaller than 3x3 cm using audio method. So basically impossible to tell what shape an hand is in.	Jan 15 12:32
abeNd-org	at that point it is like self driving cars, it is the humans on the road that are the problem lol	Jan 15 12:33
MinceR	can people who have and retain sight learn that?	Jan 15 12:33
abeNd-org	darn idiots with their faces buried in cell phones not paying attention to that curb coming up & running off the road	Jan 15 12:33
oiaohm	Yes I have sight and I have learnt it. Mil training in black out buildings learn it as well.	Jan 15 12:33
oiaohm	Using bullet sounds allows you to kinda see through walls.	Jan 15 12:33
MinceR	i have a device that lets me see through the wall	Jan 15 12:34
MinceR	i call it a window	Jan 15 12:34
oiaohm	MinceR: I mean solid walls.	Jan 15 12:34
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 12:34
oiaohm	Its not x-ray vison.	Jan 15 12:34
oiaohm	Its the returning echo of the shot off of like human bone.	Jan 15 12:34
oiaohm	Even metal objects echo back so much.	Jan 15 12:35
oiaohm	So gives you aprox guess how many targets are in a room.	Jan 15 12:35
oiaohm	Without having to stick your head out.	Jan 15 12:36
oiaohm	MinceR: basically there are a lot of mucked up ideas about what is required for combat. To command multi people in combat and perform group coordination that requires reasoning section of mind.	Jan 15 12:41
MinceR	can you do that if you're shocked by violence?	Jan 15 12:41
oiaohm	MinceR: group coordination is what is lost if you are shocked by violence.	Jan 15 12:42
oiaohm	And you are trained.	Jan 15 12:42
oiaohm	Basic 1 to 1 combat including waiting until attack is in right location to be dropped does not require group coordination.	Jan 15 12:43
oiaohm	to be correct 1 to many still works because that is solo contained logic.	Jan 15 12:44
oiaohm	Many to many fails.	Jan 15 12:44
oiaohm	Non thinking combat is your normal out of control bar brawl.	Jan 15 12:45
oiaohm	Combat on auto is happening in many at the same time is basically a mess.	Jan 15 12:46
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oiaohm	MinceR: think how often does many to many combat happen. Its the rarity on peaceful countries. So why would you need to particularly train for it.	Jan 15 12:49
MinceR	people trying to shock you by posting links to images happens more often :>	Jan 15 12:50
oiaohm	Desensitisation training in mil is to avoid auto solo combat. The hazard with auto combat is you have no friend or enemy selection either if you are in shock from the violence.	Jan 15 12:53
oiaohm	Those training to be mil/police I can understand the need for desensitisation. Self defence is not required.	Jan 15 12:54
oiaohm	Key word "Self" as in only to protect you not to protect anyone else.	Jan 15 12:55
oiaohm	Age of desensitisation is critical. You want a person to be about 21 years old before having desensitisation training so that their moral code is solid and confirm-able before you do it. Problem with a lot of Mil training starts too young.	Jan 15 12:57
oiaohm	MinceR: the images are part self fulling proficiency. The more violence you see the more normal you will think it is so the more likely you will do violence. Now written about violence is different. Humans are controlled a lot by what they see and do than what they read.	Jan 15 13:02
MinceR	even if you don't consider violence normal, other people will	Jan 15 13:03
MinceR	and they'll do it to you.	Jan 15 13:03
oiaohm	MinceR: partly correct. Primary and High Schools that have taught combat skills see lower over all volince on school grounds. For a person to perform violence against you in majority of causes they must believe they have a chance of winning and not losing badly.	Jan 15 13:06
oiaohm	MinceR: school who has taught combat skills person thinking of being attacker considers if the possiablity of a broken arm or leg is worth it.	Jan 15 13:07
oiaohm	MinceR: this is the big problem people think combat skills are violence. They are releated yes but they are not the same.	Jan 15 13:08
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 13:08
MinceR	_using_ them is violence, at least some of the time :>	Jan 15 13:08
oiaohm	It also depends on the taught combat skils. Particular combat skills only work if person is attacking.	Jan 15 13:09
oiaohm	Yes some of the defensive combat skills can break arms and legs.	Jan 15 13:10
MinceR	is that like defensive hand grenade? :>	Jan 15 13:10
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oiaohm	MinceR: no defensive hand grenade is normally a title given to a smoke bomb or a stunt grenade. Its not like a defensive combat skill where someone punches at you and you catch punch throwing them to ground and breaking arm in process.	Jan 15 13:13
oiaohm	MinceR: the move does not work if person is not attacking.	Jan 15 13:14
oiaohm	MinceR: there is a defensive combat knife skill where you drive the knife while they are still holding it into their shoulder on the side not holding knife.	Jan 15 13:22
oiaohm	MinceR: lets just say the defensive combat skills are ouch.	Jan 15 13:22
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 13:22
oiaohm	If you know everyone around you has defensive combat skills you are way less likely to try violence.	Jan 15 13:23
oiaohm	MinceR: there are over 600 moves thare are in the defensive combat skill paybook. And all of them hurt attackers baddly.	Jan 15 13:25
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3pq	Jan 15 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PSA: Android Studio 2.0 Preview 5 is now out	Jan 15 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Nx4OxvlvtZ (9to5google.com)	Jan 15 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3pr	Jan 15 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Remix OS means for Android on PCs	Jan 15 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/keEOkYoFRh (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 15 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3ps	Jan 15 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CES 2016 Brought Us Loads of Choices for	Jan 15 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	Android Auto https://t.co/RHchC3SwW1	Jan 15 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 15 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3s0	Jan 15 17:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released	Jan 15 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hTyYrvrSwq (it.toolbox.com)	Jan 15 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3s1	Jan 15 17:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/688110321546862593	Jan 15 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @CandidCanon @JNGross Health tech is different from molecular pharmaceutics, and both have other market dynamics than other fields.		Jan 15 17:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mycroft Prototype Almost Ready, Developers Show Us the...'		Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Gives Away a Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu Linux	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	Laptop at UbuCon Summit 2016	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jG9n6OAKYk (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3xr	Jan 15 17:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	You Ubuntu Phone Convergence Packs, Steam	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	Controllers https://t.co/J7jI77iTE8	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3xs	Jan 15 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get You Ubuntu Phone Convergence Packs, Steam Controllers		Jan 15 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T to replace some proprietary systems with	Jan 15 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	open-source tech https://t.co/jZeHnk8wjX	Jan 15 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ciodive.com) #linux included	Jan 15 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AfY9BjE7VO (ostatic.com)	Jan 15 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ciodive.com \| AT&T to replace some proprietary systems with open-source tech \| CIO Dive		Jan 15 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3xz	Jan 15 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| AT&T Deal is Evidence of How Ubuntu's Path is Tied to the Cloud		Jan 15 17:38
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get You...'		Jan 15 17:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Gives Away a Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu...'		Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android: More Leftovers https://t.co/DdKAzws5bT	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3za	Jan 15 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android: More Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Development: Outreachy, OpenStreetMap,	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	Maps https://t.co/g993IDvtrb	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3zb	Jan 15 17:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QjgZQXbkNs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3zc	Jan 15 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu (Contests, MJ Technology,	Jan 15 17:50
TweetTuxMachines	AT&T) https://t.co/uRO0Ev1ZQo	Jan 15 17:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 17:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3zd	Jan 15 17:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FOSS From Baidu https://t.co/UrDDtFFLBz	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of41s	Jan 15 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FOSS From Baidu \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Adult Charter School in Texas Receives Free	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source Training https://t.co/4yMz0iejtk	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of41t	Jan 15 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Adult Charter School in Texas Receives Free Open Source Training \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Excellent Music Player Clementine Is Getting a	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	Massive Update, No Indication of Launch Date	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DRiHnqx8kT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of41u	Jan 15 18:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wind River revs up its connected car software	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	and services https://t.co/qaup5xexrS	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	"its widely respected embedded Linux	Jan 15 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Wind River revs up its connected car software and services · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	distribution"	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of490	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/UcTGRqIszU	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of491	Jan 15 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux News: Open Source Training in Texas,	Jan 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Journal on One DVD, More Ocean	Jan 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dDpnALabPd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of492	Jan 15 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux News: Open Source Training in Texas, Linux Journal on One DVD, More Ocean \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Survey: Open Source Tools Preferred for Mobile	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	Development https://t.co/kyqvlm8kwL	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4af	Jan 15 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Survey: Open Source Tools Preferred for Mobile Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/qKEHwQY6UF	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4ag	Jan 15 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: KDE \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is privacy Free software’s next milestone?	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cjdHuCjFM0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4ah	Jan 15 19:20
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MinceR	https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7	Jan 15 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com \| The resolution of the Bitcoin experiment — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/of4qa ]		Jan 15 21:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Excellent Music Player Clementine Is Getting a Massive...'		Jan 15 21:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE: Microsoft, Tumbleweed, and Summer of	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	Code https://t.co/rKlHPNZNT7	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r0	Jan 15 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| openSUSE: Microsoft, Tumbleweed, and Summer of Code \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/2USxKN3QfZ	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r1	Jan 15 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Inside The Ubuntu Phone \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix Might be Out After Release	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DRpGDgaSSD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r2	Jan 15 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix Might be Out After Release \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	Pi 2 https://t.co/KCbA9BLuwa	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r3	Jan 15 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 21:56
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 15 21:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/2USxKN3QfZ	Jan 15 23:36
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 23:36
TweetTuxMachines	@ChronolabsCoop	Jan 15 23:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of50a	Jan 15 23:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 15 23:36
TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8	Jan 16 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	(gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines	Jan 16 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X	Jan 16 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix Might be Out After Release		Jan 16 01:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of581	Jan 16 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UbuntuTopNews: Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8 via @tuxmachines https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X		Jan 16 01:07
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cubexyz	looks like slack is sticking with sysvinit	Jan 16 01:44
cubexyz	slackware 14.2 beta 1 has been released	Jan 16 01:44
*TweetTuxMachines @auwalup retweeted @UbuntuTopNews: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 01:54
cubexyz	oiaohm, does current firefox _have_ to have P4 or newer SSE2?	Jan 16 02:08
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msb_	Great Michael Mann "hacker" movie, beautiful cinematography, shows Linux booting up. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2717822/combined	Jan 16 02:40
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I have not looked closely how mozilla builds.	Jan 16 02:59
*TweetTuxMachines @caroljohnson051 favourited '21 Best Free Linux Productivity Tools https://t.co/TWglPd7WCx'		Jan 16 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com \| 21 Best Free Linux Productivity Tools - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site		Jan 16 03:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	@Dedo_Mraz (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5lq	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y2QHK0UmuG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5lr	Jan 16 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 04:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "These days, Microsoft doesn’t need SUSE	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	anymore" https://t.co/DGEGuNmN6P	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	(fossforce.com)	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5ma	Jan 16 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Ubuntu, Microsoft, Tizen & More… \| FOSS Force		Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android On The Desktop https://t.co/siMoUlzbRa	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidpolice.com) https://t.co/4RpeNkMhW1	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	(theindianrepublic.com)	Jan 16 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Hands-On With Jide Remix 2.0 For PCs: A Promising Start For Android On The Desktop		Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mb	Jan 16 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theindianrepublic.com \| Developer Version of Remix OS 2.0 Goes Live		Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PhoenixOS is (another) Android-as-a-desktop	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yel6aJDXDW (liliputing.com)	Jan 16 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mc	Jan 16 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jide Technology brings #android to desktops	Jan 16 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5xuqDCdiuS (e27.co)	Jan 16 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TXyXViTdzs (e27.co)	Jan 16 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HVkIRDK6wB	Jan 16 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 16 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mv	Jan 16 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e27.co \| Ex-Googlers want to bring the Android ecosytem to PC		Jan 16 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e27.co \| Jide Technology		Jan 16 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| Jide Builds List Of User-Voted "Best Apps For Remix OS" \| Androidheadlines.com		Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Offers Promo Code Options for Android	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	App Developers https://t.co/zhvNNeazGJ	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.eweek.com)	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mx	Jan 16 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Google Offers Promo Code Options for Android App Developers		Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 schedule, DevConf.cz, looking back at	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	2015, and modularization	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/g8lyuzbrTa (fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5my	Jan 16 04:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ease eye strain and Sleep easier with Redshift	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1Ya2dVb6WN (www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5nl	Jan 16 04:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JxR6ySwIOM	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxandubuntu.com)	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5nn	Jan 16 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com \| Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated - LinuxAndUbuntu		Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/sOSQyUhmsg	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5np	Jan 16 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/inside-the-ubuntu-phone/ )		Jan 16 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 04:53
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix Might be Out After Release	Jan 16 04:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ouxSbfJ4Ye (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 04:53
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schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452907305682#c2276033095202536301	Jan 16 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of5o2 ]		Jan 16 04:55
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 04:55
schestowitz	Dear Merpel,	Jan 16 04:55
schestowitz	it may be abuse of Blogspot protocol, but I believe there is good reason to change the heading of the post into 'Heart-Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded'.	Jan 16 04:55
schestowitz	@ Mork and @Disgusted examiner: is a person who is proven to be in blatant disrecpect of fundamental human rights still worthy of a public office, such as a "conseiller municipal"?	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	Kind regards,	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	George Brock-Nannestad	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452910629177#c58285839509536044	Jan 16 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of5o3 ]		Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	@Cat:	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	"The ILOAT dispute resolution procedure usually takes years. Probably, the EPO internal procedure, before the ILOAT, also takes time."	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	Nowadays there is no internal appeal against disciplinary decisions, so the dismissals (and the downgrading) are appealable directly to the ILOAT.	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	One could hope for accelerated treatment of dismissal cases by the ILOAT. That also seems to be its practice, at least until recently. Many older dismissal cases were decided within 1.5 years with most of that time being spent on two rounds of submissions. But the more recent case of Judgment No. 3297, for example, took about 3.5 years from the filing of the complaint.	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 04:56
schestowitz	lots about EPo to come out today...	Jan 16 04:56
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wikileakBot/status/688306781936697344	Jan 16 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileakBot: RT @schestowitz UK Classifies Spending on Policing #Wikileaks Founder After Scandal https://t.co/PsEjNAGMQI #uk #assange #witchhunt #police		Jan 16 05:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu/Debian (EOL, GNOME, Tor)	Jan 16 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0uIonDx11S (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 06:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu/Debian (EOL, GNOME, Tor) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/XuKafw2niY	Jan 16 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5ro	Jan 16 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/hAQBu962ma	Jan 16 06:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 06:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5rp	Jan 16 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 06:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/Da3x4MFPos	Jan 16 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5rz	Jan 16 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/eCxfK0GsCj	Jan 16 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5s0	Jan 16 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/ZTWlNClPm1	Jan 16 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 06:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/1/2016: Ocean, Fedora Delays, Moksha	Jan 16 06:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Desktop 0.2.0 https://t.co/OApmjlMyRP	Jan 16 06:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Jan 16 06:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2016: Ocean, Fedora Delays, Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 \| Techrights		Jan 16 06:31
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Linux Delayed, the Distribution Will Be...'		Jan 16 06:37
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/eCxfK0GsCj'		Jan 16 06:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chasgaming/status/688326884975874048	Jan 16 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chasgaming: Interesting read! What's your opinion on #Bitcoin? https://t.co/uzJD1j61Qu		Jan 16 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘Bitcoin Has Failed’, Says Lead Developer Who Just Quit https://t.co/87b8ThLXbz #bitcoin		Jan 16 06:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AnnieMachon/status/688330101826711552	Jan 16 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnnieMachon: A must-read. https://t.co/TZw03yEWU6		Jan 16 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past https://t.co/WzAci18DoJ		Jan 16 07:04
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/ZTWlNClPm1'		Jan 16 07:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @briketaro favourited 'Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/sOSQyUhmsg'		Jan 16 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/inside-the-ubuntu-phone/ )		Jan 16 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu	Jan 16 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux to a City Near You	Jan 16 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dDalmi5HJr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5we	Jan 16 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to a City Near You \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 07:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/688345162712510464	Jan 16 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz @SputnikInt Classified as "It's embarrassing so hush now and go away."		Jan 16 08:07
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schestowitz	[09:56] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/realramnit/status/688298735990902784	Jan 16 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realramnit: RT @schestowitz #Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/NGp0wMmKAE #ubuntu #linux		Jan 16 09:18
schestowitz	[09:57] [Notice] -TechrightsBN to #boycottnovell- @realramnit: RT @schestowitz #Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/NGp0wMmKAE #ubuntu #linux	Jan 16 09:18
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schestowitz	[12:29] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/harlechnnorfolk/status/688337176128569345	Jan 16 09:18
schestowitz	[14:04] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/votepori/status/688359226914160640	Jan 16 09:18
schestowitz	[14:18] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/688351768170885120	Jan 16 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/ )		Jan 16 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@harlechnnorfolk: @schestowitz just shared your tweet on my site: https://t.co/2AcHa5z8yn		Jan 16 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rebelmouse.projectbrainsaver.com \| projectbrainsaver - Just talk!		Jan 16 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@votepori: fucking red jumpsuit apparatus literally shutting the entire building down. https://t.co/sI4dr8pnAK		Jan 16 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Brits who are worries about what the #epo is doing right now should write to representatives: john.alty@ipo.gov.uk sean.dennehey@ipo.gov.uk		Jan 16 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 so no Linux or BSD?		Jan 16 09:20
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688366054029062144	Jan 16 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Do you mean @JohnAlty1 ?		Jan 16 09:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to...'		Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BTC dev: ‘Strangling’ the #blockchain will kill	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	#Bitcoin https://t.co/FWjfi2TWL1	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk) both #linux dominated	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of65g	Jan 16 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| BTC dev: 'Strangling' the blockchain will kill Bitcoin • The Register		Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical’s Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux to a City Near You	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pWs15wLArX (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of65h	Jan 16 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to a City Near You		Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steel, Password Managing the CLI Way	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NbF2gaFJU2 (thelinuxrain.com)	Jan 16 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of65i	Jan 16 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxrain.com \| The Linux Rain - Steel, Password Managing the CLI Way		Jan 16 09:40
*TweetTuxMachines @FGraillot favourited 'BTC dev: ‘Strangling’ the #blockchain will kill #Bitcoin...'		Jan 16 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RdOj32tu5a (arstechnica.com)	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tEEFm0mMG2 (fossbytes.com)	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of66l	Jan 16 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 \| Ars Technica		Jan 16 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Future Processors From Intel And AMD Will ONLY Support Windows 10		Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio Unveils First Android Smartwatch At CES	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/qOsBTGdr0i	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.christianpost.com)	Jan 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of66m	Jan 16 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christianpost.com \| Casio Unveils First Android Smartwatch At CES 2016		Jan 16 09:52
cubexyz	ok, that sounds very bad	Jan 16 09:59
cubexyz	"Future Processors from intel and AMD will only support windows 10"	Jan 16 10:00
cubexyz	sounds kind of wrong actually	Jan 16 10:00
XRevan86	> fossbytes	Jan 16 10:02
XRevan86	what does "foss" mean here?	Jan 16 10:02
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452948093550#c4135262706960241237	Jan 16 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of67i ]		Jan 16 10:02
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 10:02
cubexyz	it's the only windows version supported they should say	Jan 16 10:02
schestowitz	Details of the mock trials are emerging:	Jan 16 10:02
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Jan 16 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO - Techrights		Jan 16 10:02
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 10:02
XRevan86	> Future Processors from intel and AMD will not support windows older than 10	Jan 16 10:03
XRevan86	that's how news should be	Jan 16 10:03
cubexyz	the way it's worded it sounds like everything but windows is locked out	Jan 16 10:03
cubexyz	yeah	Jan 16 10:03
cubexyz	M$ is fighting very hard to get everyone on win10	Jan 16 10:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: But why news-site called "fossbytes" ignores GNU/Linux?	Jan 16 10:04
XRevan86	I only know "FOSS" as in "Free Open Source Software"	Jan 16 10:04
XRevan86	it must mean something else here	Jan 16 10:04
cubexyz	they are pretty new	Jan 16 10:05
cubexyz	tech media startup from India	Jan 16 10:06
cubexyz	and they don't ignore linux	Jan 16 10:06
cubexyz	http://fossbytes.com/getting-started-with-linux-part-1-choosing-a-distribution/	Jan 16 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Getting Started With Linux : Part-1 (Choosing a Distribution) [ http://ur1.ca/of67z ]		Jan 16 10:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: Why did they in the Wintel news?	Jan 16 10:07
cubexyz	put them in a similar category to http://www.howtogeek.com	Jan 16 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| How-To Geek - For Geeks, By Geeks.		Jan 16 10:08
cubexyz	trying to cover all the bases I guess	Jan 16 10:08
cubexyz	wintel is passé	Jan 16 10:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: I expected them to be English OpenNET	Jan 16 10:11
XRevan86	> Future Processors from intel and AMD will only support windows 10	Jan 16 10:12
XRevan86	but this is just FOSS-ignorant	Jan 16 10:12
cubexyz	there's two FOSSes I'd say	Jan 16 10:12
cubexyz	there's hard FOSS... that is source code for everything including BIOS	Jan 16 10:13
cubexyz	we usually fall quite short of that	Jan 16 10:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: They don't qualify on either.	Jan 16 10:13
cubexyz	there's middle of the road FOSS, that's Linux/BSD, so the BIOS is closed but the OS is FOSS at least, and applications are FOSS	Jan 16 10:13
cubexyz	fossbytes is FOSSlite :)	Jan 16 10:13
cubexyz	ok, that's three FOSSes	Jan 16 10:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: They still don't qualify %)	Jan 16 10:14
cubexyz	FOSSlite is when you're OS is closed, but you still use FOSS applications on the closed source OS (along with closed source BIOS)	Jan 16 10:14
XRevan86	there level of FOSS'ness is somewhere in "okay, let's use Notepad++ instead of Notepad"	Jan 16 10:14
cubexyz	I didn't say it was good :)	Jan 16 10:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'd classify differently	Jan 16 10:15
XRevan86	FLOSS, FOSS, OSS	Jan 16 10:15
XRevan86	also FOSS: copyleft FOSS and permissive (defenceless) FOSS	Jan 16 10:18
cubexyz	opennet.ru jumps into cyrillic when I do a search	Jan 16 10:18
cubexyz	but it looks more interesting that fossbytes that's for sure	Jan 16 10:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: Probably a thing because they use KOI8-R %).	Jan 16 10:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's a really good site. Pity it's local (not international).	Jan 16 10:19
XRevan86	one just need to learn not to read comments there %)	Jan 16 10:20
cubexyz	right, that's one of the reasons why some people don't like the BSD license	Jan 16 10:27
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oiaohm	cubexyz: wine project history is example where BSD style licenses can go wrong.	Jan 16 12:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: defencelessness?	Jan 16 12:10
oiaohm	XRevan86: do you know the history that happened with Wine.	Jan 16 12:10
XRevan86	oiaohm: Which one?	Jan 16 12:11
oiaohm	http://wiki.winehq.org/WineHistory	Jan 16 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.winehq.org \| WineHistory - The Official Wine Wiki		Jan 16 12:12
oiaohm	XRevan86: transgaming vs Codeweavers 2001 while wine project was a MIT style licenese.	Jan 16 12:13
XRevan86	oiaohm: Ah, proprietary Wine derivatives.	Jan 16 12:13
XRevan86	That's what happens when one uses non-copyleft licences, yes.	Jan 16 12:14
oiaohm	Worse the developer aquirement bidding war between the two companies.	Jan 16 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22	Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	January, according to Samsung MD	Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/urM2Ivzgoq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6j0	Jan 16 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22 January, according to Samsung MD \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22	Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	January, according to Samsung MD	Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F960CLprdf (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 16 12:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6j1	Jan 16 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22 January, according to Samsung MD - Tizen Experts		Jan 16 12:16
oiaohm	By 2002 Codeweavers was in the horible position of having to consider going closed source or getting some license on the source code they released to prevent compeitors beating them to customers so leaving them short of funds to pay developers.	Jan 16 12:17
oiaohm	XRevan86: so there is some quite nasty ramifcations for a company that can happen by using non-copyleft.	Jan 16 12:17
oiaohm	Basically if you are planing to sell support and add on services on a open source project you use a copyleft license of some form or get hurt.	Jan 16 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Want Freedom To Choose Your Hardware? Choose	Jan 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux. https://t.co/v1hPUlQQhO	Jan 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Jan 16 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Want Freedom To Choose Your Hardware? Choose GNU/Linux. \| Robert Pogson		Jan 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Experiences with Wasteland 2: Director's Cut	Jan 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	On Linux https://t.co/QHbH7hclG9	Jan 16 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 16 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6kk	Jan 16 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| My Experiences with Wasteland 2: Director's Cut On Linux - Phoronix		Jan 16 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!	Jan 16 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OjtgtwhlG9 (www.blacklablinux.org)	Jan 16 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6kl	Jan 16 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org \| Black Lab Linux: Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!		Jan 16 12:33
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dour	nice spam	Jan 16 12:46
schestowitz	huh?	Jan 16 13:02
schestowitz	where?	Jan 16 13:02
dour	the bot	Jan 16 13:14
dour	TweetTuxMachines	Jan 16 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nng1y1FUT7	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	(4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com)	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6ql	Jan 16 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com \| 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.		Jan 16 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical’s Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to...'		Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CW0fkz2NLp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6qm	Jan 16 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released! \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics (GLVND, Drag-n-Drop)	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oiaP3O0FI8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6qn	Jan 16 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Graphics (GLVND, Drag-n-Drop) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0HQfoJJKUz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6qo	Jan 16 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released. \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 13:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/688434157865840641	Jan 16 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Proxies and VPNs to be blocked by Netflix @schestowitz https://t.co/SH4hpBqQZW		Jan 16 13:56
schestowitz	dour: gives news updates	Jan 16 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> betanews.com \| Proxies and VPNs to be blocked by Netflix		Jan 16 13:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966262	Jan 16 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/15/when-terror-in-europe-was-common		Jan 16 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reason.com \| Terrorism In Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past -- And Doesn't Justify Expanded Repressive Surveillance - Hit & Run : Reason.com [ http://ur1.ca/of6wc ]		Jan 16 14:27
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 14:27
schestowitz	Just Street Crime shows rise…	Jan 16 14:27
schestowitz	ps: Interesting Correlation between Terror Wave and the End of Soviet Union: ‘no money - no fun’	Jan 16 14:27
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 14:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966236	Jan 16 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/ http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-pcs-with-intel-skylake-processors-wont-support-windows-78-1/		Jan 16 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/of6wm ]		Jan 16 14:28
schestowitz	"Well I guess there will be more switching to linux then . Someone should step up and start manufacturing arm based pcs , to overcome uefi shit ."	Jan 16 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com \| Future Processors From Intel And AMD Will ONLY Support Windows 10 [ http://ur1.ca/of6wn ]		Jan 16 14:28
schestowitz	That's optimistic analysis of antitrust violations, IMHO	Jan 16 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/hES5eKywAD	Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6xz	Jan 16 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DbqRMQkF2Z	Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6y0	Jan 16 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 14:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/DbqRMQkF2Z'		Jan 16 15:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/YgkoJmipwz	Jan 16 15:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 15:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of70m	Jan 16 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 15:10
schestowitz	http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/chelsea_clinton_takes_a_shot_at_bernie_sanders_20160116/	Jan 16 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com \| Jeff Danziger: Chelsea Clinton Takes a Shot at Bernie Sanders - Jeff Danziger - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/of716 ]		Jan 16 15:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/YgkoJmipwz	Jan 16 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 16 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of78r	Jan 16 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing	Jan 16 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp (linuxg.net)	Jan 16 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of78s	Jan 16 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes \| LinuxG.net		Jan 16 16:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp'		Jan 16 16:36
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp'		Jan 16 16:36
schestowitz	http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/	Jan 16 16:45
schestowitz	I think I crashed this site when linking to it	Jan 16 16:46
schestowitz	it must be a VERY weak server	Jan 16 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/ )		Jan 16 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lubuntu 16.04 LTS will use kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2BtsvqZ0uF (error) testers sought	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dHSbqsGCUn (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7cr	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Budgie Desktop	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dSE7NHvshh (www.youtube.com)	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7d9	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Quod Libet GTK Based Audio Player and Tag	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	Editor for Linux https://t.co/W8MR0B8ozw	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.noobslab.com)	Jan 16 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7da	Jan 16 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-16-04-lts-will-use-kernel-4-4-lts/ )		Jan 16 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| How You Can Help Test the New Ubuntu Software Center		Jan 16 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Solus 1.0 Budgie Desktop - YouTube		Jan 16 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.noobslab.com \| `Quod Libet` GTK Based Audio Player and Tag Editor for Linux - NoobsLab \| Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps		Jan 16 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Finding the Perfect Linux Laptop	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QzADWoNq7b (shkspr.mobi)	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7e9	Jan 16 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/01/finding-the-perfect-linux-laptop/ )		Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SMPlayer 16.1 Released, Adds Video Bookmarking	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/N8EO9tfWpq (www.hecticgeek.com)	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7eb	Jan 16 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| SMPlayer 16.1 Released, Adds Video Bookmarking		Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SolydXK 2015.12	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJ96jHK9Al (www.youtube.com)	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7ec	Jan 16 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| SolydXK 2015.12 - YouTube		Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Convergence Device To Be Announced	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	Next Month? https://t.co/BZvdwRSq1b	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk) Mobile World Congress	Jan 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7ed	Jan 16 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| New Ubuntu Convergence Device Will Be Demoed Next Month		Jan 16 17:24
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/40v28h/zfs_on_linux_finally_accepted_on_debian/	Jan 16 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| ZFS on Linux finally accepted on Debian! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/of7ei ]		Jan 16 17:26
schestowitz	cubexyz: http://netboot.xyz/	Jan 16 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netboot.xyz \| netboot.xyz		Jan 16 17:40
schestowitz	I think it may be new	Jan 16 17:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688492161579511808	Jan 16 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Been running solydx and solydk on machines for past 5 years. Only complaint is in kde I have to drop down into recovery to boot		Jan 16 17:48
schestowitz	KDE is having tough times at the moment. I dumped it after 16 years (3 weeks ago). Now plain openbox.	Jan 16 17:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BBCMOTD/status/688488515089379332	Jan 16 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BBCMOTD: John Terry has scored four PL own-goals for Chelsea, more than any other #CFC player https://t.co/TxcuNt6pDj #MOTD https://t.co/Whdy32vTjo		Jan 16 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| Match of the Day Social - BBC Sport		Jan 16 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BBCMOTD: John Terry has scored four PL own-goals for Chelsea, more than any other #CFC player https://t.co/TxcuNt6pDj #MOTD https://t.co/Whdy32vTjo		Jan 16 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool	Jan 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	Is Out After Three Years of Development	Jan 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/14LxkuZUN8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7hu	Jan 16 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool Is Out After Three Years of Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines group test: BSD Distros https://t.co/bdWrc59OGY	Jan 16 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7hv	Jan 16 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| group test: BSD Distros \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks	Jan 16 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo	Jan 16 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YQKajhJOYz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7hw	Jan 16 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:05
*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool Is...'		Jan 16 18:11
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks...'		Jan 16 18:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool Is...'		Jan 16 18:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688505252388179968	Jan 16 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Looking to explore qubes next when I find time. Read the Main_Page, do you have good review link for openbox ?		Jan 16 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features	Jan 16 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AZczE2xIdA (bedrocklinux.org)	Jan 16 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7mf	Jan 16 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bedrocklinux.org \| Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features		Jan 16 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks	Jan 16 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo	Jan 16 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/en7g4zUAOa (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7mg	Jan 16 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo		Jan 16 18:54
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks...'		Jan 16 18:54
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks...'		Jan 16 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines [Chakra] Plasma 5.5.3, Applications 15.12.1 and	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	Frameworks 5.18.0 by KDE now available	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Xf9ADPF1Yo (chakraos.org)	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7nk	Jan 16 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chakraos.org \| Plasma 5.5.3, Applications 15.12.1 and Frameworks 5.18.0 by KDE now available \| Chakra \| News		Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint: from Rafaela to Rosa	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MRPdxU92JL (www.dedoimedo.com)	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7nl	Jan 16 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com \| Linux Mint: from Rafaela to Rosa		Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/JEk1K5EvH3	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7nm	Jan 16 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ppyoeFgs6S	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7nn	Jan 16 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:08
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688515019387088896	Jan 16 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz @nayafia Demand for @bunniestudios' Novena will only grow - free hardware #FTW		Jan 16 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/1G97GNdwp2	Jan 16 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7ow	Jan 16 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers (GNU/Linux)	Jan 16 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YVyJRApC34 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7ox	Jan 16 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers (GNU/Linux) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features	Jan 16 19:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KTK2UBjPJp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7oy	Jan 16 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6967013	Jan 16 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Very cheesy: Year of the Linux Desktop http://webmshare.com/play/YXbAw		Jan 16 19:31
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schestowitz	"nice"	Jan 16 19:31
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MinceR	https://archive.is/ksSpD	Jan 16 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is \| Firefox Add-on Signing criticized for being ineffective - gHacks Tech News		Jan 16 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint: from Rafaela to Rosa	Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yxN8JOtu2T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of83j	Jan 16 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint: from Rafaela to Rosa \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.5.3, Applications 15.12.1 and	Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	Frameworks 5.18.0 by KDE now available	Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cPIvJSn18m (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of83k	Jan 16 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Plasma 5.5.3, Applications 15.12.1 and Frameworks 5.18.0 by KDE now available \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Phoenix OS, an Alternative to Remix	Jan 16 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	OS and Android-x86 Made in China	Jan 16 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qUpqFDtUjv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of884	Jan 16 23:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Introducing Phoenix OS, an Alternative to Remix OS and Android-x86 Made in China \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 23:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Introducing Phoenix OS, an Alternative to Remix OS...'		Jan 16 23:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by and KDE Released https://t.co/loYzYqjgep	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecgq	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/10NHMzQAjz	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecgr	Jan 10 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Q6xIeZzsI7	Jan 10 00:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecgs	Jan 10 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uAhjWqs19e	Jan 10 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oect7	Jan 10 02:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.4 Could Be Released Tomorrow, AMD	Jan 10 02:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio WSD-F10 Android Wear smartwatch hands-on	Jan 10 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	review https://t.co/LZiFOWFc0v	Jan 10 10:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Slime Rancher pre-alpha, DRM free, available for Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 10 10:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidguys.com \| These unlocked Android phones from CES 2016 are the real reason why Apple is going to struggle in 2016		Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tails 1.8.2 is out https://t.co/64uSWnjfTd	Jan 10 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Will Be Interesting To See If AMD Supports	Jan 10 10:35
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952416	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	"Oh, now I’m not sure. If it were just a problem for the Windows port, I would not mind so much. I’m afraid it bleeds back to gnu/linux. I’ll have to dig deeper."	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	That's good..	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6954332	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	"looks good ;)"	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	Just in time for Vista 10 refugees...	Jan 10 11:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 http://www.techworm.net/2016/01/best-features-linux-mint-18.html #linuxmint #gnu #linux		Jan 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techworm.net \| Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 » TechWorm		Jan 10 11:00
MinceR	vista10 refugees to lendows or to gnu/linux?	Jan 10 12:46
MinceR	they can get the brokenness they got used to from redhat	Jan 10 12:46
oiaohm	MinceR: You might not like systemd but at least a redhat system is not logging and reporting all usage activity to outside source.	Jan 10 12:52
MinceR	how do you know?	Jan 10 12:53
MinceR	also, what makes you think that won't change?	Jan 10 12:53
oiaohm	MinceR: network traffic.	Jan 10 12:53
oiaohm	MinceR: Redhat to operate in air gapped networks for USA Mil and other Mil cannot be sending huge stacks of crap home.	Jan 10 12:54
oiaohm	MinceR: redhat biggest customer is Mil.	Jan 10 12:54
MinceR	maybe it only sends data when the nsa knocks	Jan 10 12:54
MinceR	oiaohm: that sort of stuff didn't stop the nsa from poisoning the stuff they use themselves	Jan 10 12:54
oiaohm	Not at all. NSA and USA navy don't get alone.	Jan 10 12:55
oiaohm	along.	Jan 10 12:55
oiaohm	MinceR: you think systems controling nuke weapons would you let anyone have backdoors including the NSA.	Jan 10 12:56
oiaohm	MinceR: biggest deployment of redhat Linux systems in a single unfied system is controling the USA nuke weapon subs and land bases.	Jan 10 12:58
oiaohm	MinceR: for some reason Microsoft Windows is not trusted todo ath.	Jan 10 12:58
oiaohm	ath that.	Jan 10 12:58
MinceR	i think the nsa has gone rogue	Jan 10 13:00
MinceR	and redhat is assisting them, for money and favors	Jan 10 13:00
oiaohm	MinceR: redhat use to assist NSA. But when it came out NSA was backdooring encryption systems particular ones the USA Navy need there was a huge cat fight.	Jan 10 13:01
MinceR	so you think pushing a hotbed of vulnerabilities to most formerly gnu/linux systems does not assist the nsa	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	MinceR: NSA is such a small customer and USA Navy is a big customer to Redhat. You can guess what one wines.	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	?	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	the one that can threaten them with more	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	The reason behind systemd is to make cgroup secuirty and other featues standard.	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	yeah, right	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	that's the excuse	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	Development mention of systemd has been completley wrong.	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	and yet it doesn't justify most of their shitty "design" decisions	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	MinceR: Navy where using Huge docker and other deployments before systemd.	Jan 10 13:03
MinceR	but those were too reliable and too secure so they switched to lendows?	Jan 10 13:03
oiaohm	No	Jan 10 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio WSD-F10 Android Wear smartwatch hands-on	Jan 10 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	review https://t.co/Gb7obp8o0k (www.stuff.tv)	Jan 10 13:03
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oiaohm	At the time of systemd starting docker had a lot of issues too MinceR	Jan 10 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tails 1.8.2 is out https://t.co/CAAxRLcIGn	Jan 10 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 13:03
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MinceR	or they already made the bad decision to contract redhat so they got cancerd anyway	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	MinceR: there was a stack of broken mess.	Jan 10 13:04
MinceR	oiaohm: there still is a stack of broken mess	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	Different broken mess.	Jan 10 13:04
MinceR	the fact that most of that stack is in pid1 and some of it is being pushed into the kernel doesn't make things any better	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	Level of broken mess really has not changed.	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	A proper IPC between cgroups could make things better MinceR	Jan 10 13:05
oiaohm	In fact a proper IPC so individular parts can register up in a single place would in fact help things.	Jan 10 13:06
MinceR	oiaohm: kdbus is not "a proper IPC"	Jan 10 13:06
oiaohm	kdbus was attempt to avoid reinventing well to add a proper IPC.	Jan 10 13:07
oiaohm	well/wheel.	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	no, it was an attempt to push crappy redhat code to everyone's kernel	Jan 10 13:07
oiaohm	Of course using dbus as a template really was not such a hot idea.	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	along with crappy redhat "design"	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	and redhat security holes	Jan 10 13:07
oiaohm	Most of the security issues and the like in kdbus are also in dbus.	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	of course	Jan 10 13:08
MinceR	dbus is shit, pushing it into the kernel would make it even worse	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	Lets take someone of poor quality then attempt to alter it is not a good move.	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	dbus need a redesign.	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	In fact still needs a redesign.	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	MinceR: The idea of dbus is right design is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus	Jan 10 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| D-Bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Jan 10 13:13
oiaohm	MinceR: redesigning dbus and putting it in kernel space is most likely correct to reduce over head and allow LSM/Cgroups/... provide control over dbus communication.	Jan 10 13:16
oiaohm	MinceR: Of course I am not going to say the kdbus attempt was correct.	Jan 10 13:17
MinceR	wrong.	Jan 10 13:18
MinceR	http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.3/02040.html	Jan 10 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu \| Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 [ http://ur1.ca/k9c9o ]		Jan 10 13:18
MinceR	the overhead isn't where they believed it was	Jan 10 13:18
MinceR	and they didn't care enough to find out where it is, "just throw it into the kernel"	Jan 10 13:19
oiaohm	Sorry you are over reading. If you want to look to OS with correctly made IPC like dbus you are looking to Microkernels. Like QNX.	Jan 10 13:22
oiaohm	Yes the dbus userspace libraries are crap.	Jan 10 13:23
oiaohm	Some of that is hacking around userspace race conditions that is something that is preventable in kernal space.	Jan 10 13:23
oiaohm	MinceR: basically a percentage of dbus style IPC to function well needs kernel cooperation.	Jan 10 13:25
MinceR	"kernel cooperation" is not the same as "just throw the whole hairball into the kernel"	Jan 10 13:25
oiaohm	True wrong design model. kdbus developer went with throw the whole lot in kernel then trim back.	Jan 10 13:26
oiaohm	Ok that was how the Linux network stack was developed but that was 15+ years ago. Kernel develment methods have moved on.	Jan 10 13:27
oiaohm	bus1 what is the new attempt is trying to go as min as possible in kernel.	Jan 10 13:27
MinceR	i think you can see why i don't have a lot of confidence in bus1	Jan 10 13:28
oiaohm	bus1 design method is what kdbus should have used off the get go.	Jan 10 13:28
oiaohm	bus1 is also been a lot better commented than a lot of drivers and even kdbus. https://github.com/bus1/bus1/blob/master/ipc/bus1/active.c	Jan 10 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com \| bus1/active.c at master · bus1/bus1 · GitHub		Jan 10 13:30
oiaohm	MinceR: basically its looking like they have learnt from their lumps.	Jan 10 13:31
MinceR	i can't tell if they learned the minimum possible or enough to make them do it right this time	Jan 10 13:32
MinceR	but i don't think that Linus telling them to shove their shoddy crap can replace Software Engineering 101	Jan 10 13:32
MinceR	then again, if QA pretty much consists of the project leader noticing shit and stopping the merge, that doesn't give me a lot of confidence	Jan 10 13:33
MinceR	what are the others doing?	Jan 10 13:33
oiaohm	Remember what I said about structure.	Jan 10 13:34
oiaohm	when kdbus was first attempting to enter the Linux kernel it was only after staging listing.	Jan 10 13:34
oiaohm	So this lowers down the maintainer auditing level.	Jan 10 13:35
oiaohm	MinceR: please be aware mature drivers developed out of tree get to merge into the Linux kernel straight into mainline.	Jan 10 13:35
oiaohm	No need to go to staging directory area first.	Jan 10 13:35
MinceR	i wonder how mature those are	Jan 10 13:36
oiaohm	Anything sitting in the staging directory has something broken.	Jan 10 13:36
oiaohm	Now kdbus was that far broken it was not even acceptable for staging.	Jan 10 13:36
oiaohm	MinceR: Linus and Greg happen to be the two who decide what can enter staging. Linus has not appointed any extra maintainer to staging. Remember to reject takes two signs.	Jan 10 13:38
MinceR	and greg happens to sign off any crap that comes from retards like poettering and sievers and m$'s code monkeys	Jan 10 13:38
oiaohm	MinceR: to stall takes one.	Jan 10 13:38
oiaohm	Stall for review is all Linus could have done if he did not have Greg signing off on rejected as well.	Jan 10 13:39
MinceR	makes me seriously worried for the future of linux	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	MinceR: so like it or not both greg and linus end up voting against kdbus.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	MinceR: remember its another round of approvals to leave staging.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	This is why most of the hyper-v drivers are still stuck in staging.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	and have not moved to mainline core locations.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	MinceR: staging has other rules to remain. 1 is need. So if hyper-v or other staging drivers were not need for some operational reason by multi distrobutions they would be deleted and mandated to go out of mainline.	Jan 10 13:42
oiaohm	So with kdbus it so funny its not funny. kdbus got to the point where systemd had to function with kdbus so this means there was no need so even if it made it into staging it would have end up deleted again.	Jan 10 13:43
oiaohm	Result is bus1 most likely to enter Linux kernel this time will have to face full review and be mainline core quality.	Jan 10 13:44
oiaohm	MinceR: basically it does not pay to screw up with the Linux kernel first time around because second time will be many times harder.	Jan 10 13:45
MinceR	unless they unleash the crybullies at Linus	Jan 10 13:45
oiaohm	complain builling you have seen what that results in with Linus. Con Kolivas case	Jan 10 13:47
oiaohm	MinceR: basically really bad idea you attempt that your code can end up branded to be never merged.	Jan 10 13:48
oiaohm	Basically you presumed the systemd does not have punishments.	Jan 10 13:49
oiaohm	Screw up with kdbus means bus1 merge will be hard. Screw bus1 up and it might be their last role of dice.	Jan 10 13:49
oiaohm	MinceR: remember I told you about the systemd conference video. They admitted due to how hard the current entry process is to the Linux kernel is for them it might take them 5 years to even be able to put up merge request.	Jan 10 13:54
MinceR	so they'll have someone "independent" submit it	Jan 10 13:54
oiaohm	MinceR: does not work that way.	Jan 10 13:54
oiaohm	Others tried that in past.	Jan 10 13:54
oiaohm	One of those others was Con Kolivas	Jan 10 13:55
oiaohm	MinceR: so like or not things are not all going systemd way.	Jan 10 13:57
oiaohm	MinceR: in fact they gap is open for someone to ruin systemd day. If someone made a good IPC for cross cgroup/init control and got it merged due to the rule forbiding duplication features without need would lock out dbus1.	Jan 10 14:00
oiaohm	they/the	Jan 10 14:01
MinceR	assuming that such IPC is even necessary	Jan 10 14:01
MinceR	like the cancerd "feature" list	Jan 10 14:01
oiaohm	Reality such a IPC feature is necessary. docker and other also use userspace hacks that have issues attempting to work around same problem.	Jan 10 14:03
oiaohm	Really the systemd feature list you don't like that is so long right. MinceR	Jan 10 14:03
MinceR	also, the duplicate rule already failed	Jan 10 14:03
MinceR	hype-V virtio stuff got merged	Jan 10 14:04
MinceR	even though that was already done for qemu, iirc	Jan 10 14:04
oiaohm	Hyper-v drivers use a loop hole in the rules that don't apply to IPC or most other userspace things in Linux.	Jan 10 14:05
oiaohm	The loop hole that hyper-v drivers uses is why you have multi network card drivers and the like for real hardware.	Jan 10 14:06
MinceR	ridiculous	Jan 10 14:06
oiaohm	To interface with provided envorniment outside Linux clause is the only reason Hyper-v drivers got to merge.	Jan 10 14:06
oiaohm	MinceR: please note "Xen Project PVHVM drivers" with virtio before hyper-v drivers had already proving the case allow it.	Jan 10 14:08
oiaohm	MinceR: so hyper-v allowance is not a special case.	Jan 10 14:08
oiaohm	MinceR: there is no such allowance for duplication for items like cgroups or other IPCs in the Linux kernel to be provided to userspace. They must have unique features.	Jan 10 14:10
oiaohm	MinceR: there were 3 different implementations doing what cgroups did before cgroups was made and all the other 3 were exterminated.	Jan 10 14:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/686179558651990017	Jan 10 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz you supposed this, but the reason is very simple. Admins are on still on leave.		Jan 10 17:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/686179714914988034	Jan 10 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: @schestowitz @retroDoomer @ipwatchdog @zoobab There doesn't have to be one under European patent law		Jan 10 17:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/OscarALizarazo/status/686222273519448064	Jan 10 17:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source makes Big Data analytics software	Jan 10 17:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/OscarALizarazo/status/686223049310531584	Jan 10 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@OscarALizarazo: The EPO President, Mr.Battistelli will be in South America-Colombia on January 29, talking about Unitary Patents. @FOSSpatents @schestowitz		Jan 10 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.12.52 Released, Install/Upgrade Now In Ubuntu/Linux Mint \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 17:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/OscarALizarazo/status/686223049310531584	Jan 10 17:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/OscarALizarazo/status/686223049310531584	Jan 10 17:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/686234277562945537	Jan 10 17:17
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schestowitz	http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/27/middleeast/lebanon-saudi-prince-drugs/	Jan 10 17:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Set Up The Raspberry PI 2 Model B	Jan 10 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How To Set Up The Raspberry PI 2 Model B \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3 vs. Liquorix 4.3 vs. Linux 4.4 Kernel	Jan 10 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.3 vs. Liquorix 4.3 vs. Linux 4.4 Kernel Tests \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 To Have Better Support For	Jan 10 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best of CES 2016: the most impressive products	Jan 10 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Support for “Airplane mode” keys	Jan 10 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	(pavelmachek.livejournal.com)	Jan 10 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3 vs. Liquorix 4.3 vs. Linux 4.4 Kernel	Jan 10 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	Tests https://t.co/7BDyOl8q8i	Jan 10 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeeyk	Jan 10 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines There Will Be Many Features Coming For PHP 7.1	Jan 10 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eg0qWsT0tx (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| There Will Be Many Features Coming For PHP 7.1 - Phoronix		Jan 10 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data	Jan 10 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YZCxvsPO8y (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data		Jan 10 19:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/686268663897272321	Jan 10 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz @Snowden @Thomas_Drake1 Original context of ~1862 "Lincoln Law" https://t.co/HQbskMoMzj		Jan 10 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @lmbrownlee1 USA Qui Tam covers a) corrupt official in b) conspiracy w/ c) contractor/supplier 2 d) pay public $ 4 defective goods/services.		Jan 10 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data	Jan 10 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/YZCxvsPO8y (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 10 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	@Cipherhouse	Jan 10 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/qkM4ig4fg7	Jan 10 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux phones https://t.co/QciYkyPvu5	Jan 10 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data	Jan 10 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jvQEUGtx1F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch to Support Encryption of User Data \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry Priv owners get Virtual Expert	Jan 10 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	testing app for Android https://t.co/ICkc67Brdw	Jan 10 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.technobuffalo.com)	Jan 10 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com \| BlackBerry Priv owners get Virtual Expert testing app for Android		Jan 10 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Android apps you shouldn’t miss this week! –	Jan 10 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	Android Apps Weekly https://t.co/k61QTb8JKi	Jan 10 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 10 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com \| 5 Android apps you shouldn't miss this week! - Android Apps Weekly - Android Authority		Jan 10 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 10 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes and Improvements https://t.co/cNErHr1uN9	Jan 10 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/N4aYbbsv9o	Jan 10 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 21:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of Fixes and Improvements		Jan 10 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| KDE Frameworks 5.18 Released With Numerous Additions - Phoronix		Jan 10 21:28
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of Fixes...'		Jan 10 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 10 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes and Improvements https://t.co/qGTlDItbpx	Jan 10 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Frameworks 5.18.0 Arrives with Lots of Fixes and Improvements \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi	Jan 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	Hot Key https://t.co/M1drPmHfqR	Jan 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 10 22:25
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key...'		Jan 10 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key \| Techrights		Jan 10 22:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/686313309038100480	Jan 10 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Never a better collection of Linux floss links unless @schestowitz 's twitter stream ;) https://t.co/cTUqUS1YXe		Jan 10 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key https://t.co/Ks7ulWMWqs #techrights		Jan 10 22:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/686313679718080513	Jan 10 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz ;)		Jan 10 22:29
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key...'		Jan 10 22:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 22:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:30
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*TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi Hot Key...'		Jan 10 22:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 10 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/97l0ojFsQd	Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/6NClFi1Yfw	Jan 10 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/kfIMdu5G6Q	Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/gpC5ZUI9cD	Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv	Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv	Jan 10 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 10 23:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv'		Jan 10 23:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	@The_Code_Shirts	Jan 11 00:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O1nZUsMkVH (torrentfreak.com)	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegd1	Jan 11 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia - TorrentFreak		Jan 11 00:59
cubexyz	yeah the statement "authors must be paid" is a bit dubious	Jan 11 01:22
cubexyz	oh and the article is America-centric	Jan 11 01:23
cubexyz	what I find interesting is how stuff gets lost	Jan 11 01:24
cubexyz	silent films? 80% lost	Jan 11 01:25
cubexyz	FOSS stuff? Some of it has disappeared completely	Jan 11 01:25
cubexyz	there's so much stuff that hosters delete old stuff	Jan 11 01:26
cubexyz	regarding Wikipedia, I noticed Gates' Dad never talked about wikipedia but he sure talked about Encarta	Jan 11 01:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android smartphones with Force Touch:	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	available, upcoming, and rumored	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FQaTsdNxhY (www.phonearena.com)	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghe	Jan 11 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Android smartphones with Force Touch: available, upcoming, and rumored		Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windlands, a first person grappling hook	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	exploration game now on SteamOS & Linux	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eiXYmmkzWo (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghf	Jan 11 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Windlands, a first person grappling hook exploration game now on SteamOS & Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak may come to Linux	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	some day https://t.co/R45itMQvHe	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghg	Jan 11 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak may come to Linux some day \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2,	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	Framework 5.17.0, and Apps 5.12.0	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DHJx6SkKvJ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghr	Jan 11 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2, Framework 5.17.0, and Apps 5.12.0		Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	5.3.0 and Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4gdD2w4ABa (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghs	Jan 11 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| 4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC 5.3.0 and Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS		Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MKVToolNix v8.8.0 released	Jan 11 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5G8gDgjEs5 (www.bunkus.org)	Jan 11 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeght	Jan 11 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunkus.org \| MKVToolNix v8.8.0 released « mosu's tips & news from the Matroska world		Jan 11 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.4 https://t.co/1DH6yBtTUW (lwn.net)	Jan 11 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Linux 4.4 [LWN.net]		Jan 11 01:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Officially Released, Adds 3D Support in the Virtual GPU Driver		Jan 11 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview: Jono Bacon https://t.co/yTKTswq6V6	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 11 01:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/jono-bacon/ )		Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kz1aB39kGZ (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegi5	Jan 11 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686 Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support - Phoronix		Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	Separated from the GNOME Stack	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AZ2fWtOOCJ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegij	Jan 11 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated from the GNOME Stack		Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gqzucM9iPL (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegik	Jan 11 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes		Jan 11 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2, Framework 5.17.0,...'		Jan 11 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC...'		Jan 11 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux 4.4 https://t.co/1DH6yBtTUW https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW'		Jan 11 01:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships...'		Jan 11 03:44
*TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686...'		Jan 11 03:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview: Jono Bacon https://t.co/9g9jq40SP7	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegws	Jan 11 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Interview: Jono Bacon \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/otz46JxOBc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegwt	Jan 11 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BM5iOS853R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 03:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oegwu	Jan 11 03:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon	Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	Separated from the GNOME Stack	Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Uz6NdhViJA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeh0p	Jan 11 04:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated from the GNOME Stack \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in	Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes	Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bkqasAj7QA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 04:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeh0q	Jan 11 04:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 04:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686...'		Jan 11 04:41
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bastianbest/status/686442947064250368	Jan 11 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: .@schestowitz @zoobab Only the technical solution of a technical problem is patent-eligible in Germany https://t.co/orGVuGEU8y #swpats		Jan 11 08:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/onlyatoms/status/686447170019569664	Jan 11 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlyatoms: @schestowitz @mashable but for "athletes" only? #newbalance		Jan 11 08:37
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schestowitz	Doubt it. marekting.	Jan 11 08:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/686458235449126912	Jan 11 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest @schestowitz @bardehleIP technical is a restatement of the same problem, dixit Jacob		Jan 11 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plan for 24 Fedora Design Suite	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4wQhiAmdC3 (blog.thefinalzone.net)	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oehqj	Jan 11 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.thefinalzone.net \| The Final Zone project: Plan for 24 Fedora Design Suite		Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 5 two-player split screen games for Android	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	phones and tablets https://t.co/Gth0iUojyR	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phonearena.com)	Jan 11 08:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio unveils Smart Outdoor Android smartwatch	Jan 11 08:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry CEO John Chen Says BlackBerry 10 Far	Jan 11 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau Gets Some Improvements For Linux 4.5	Jan 11 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Missteps Of The XOrg Foundation	Jan 11 11:44
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schestowitz	>>> >> http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265243-mega-donor-adelson-keeps-cruz-and-rubio-guessing	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com \| Vegas billionaire donor keeps GOP candidates guessing \| TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/oei4i ]		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> corruption	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> ==	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-resume-scrutiny-of-arms-exports-to-saudi-arabia-a6805356.html	Jan 11 11:53
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> ==	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/01/10/sean-penn-intelligence-dangle/	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/01/10/sean-penn-intelligence-dangle/ )		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> I guess Penn does not have long left now.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> -	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> old:	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/opinion/without-computer-security-sources-secrets-arent-safe-with-journalists.html?_r=0	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/oei5p ]		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> Though Penn is not a journalist...	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> >	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> > Seen this early. I'm on emptywheel RSS.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> Ok. I'll assume you'll see future post from her and won't forward more.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> FWIW her RSS feed is now working again.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	There's some rubbish in that site, except the stuff about natsec. It's written by other people.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> > You live and learn, I guess, and conclude who's a real journalist that	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> > can be trusted.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> >	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> There are few left and fewer coming in to replace the old ones. Same	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> for IT. There are almost no IT people left anywhere any more.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	They don't call themselves journalists. Salaried writers just have someone else's agency (he who pays).	Jan 11 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Linux 4.5., Graphics	Jan 11 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/cXgXGxqQKE	Jan 11 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks,	Jan 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 to Split OS from Regular Apps	Jan 11 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source licensing needs to grow up already	Jan 11 13:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best open source email security products	Jan 11 13:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/686541601699672064	Jan 11 13:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-Based XanMod Kernel Tests	Jan 11 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Android phone soon	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/07HnFNeo5X (indiatoday.intoday.in)	Jan 11 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple is reportedly making it easier to switch	Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	from iOS to #Android https://t.co/aslW2G9S37	Jan 11 13:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 Beta Finally Released	Jan 11 13:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE News: Hardware problem: rsync opensuse	Jan 11 13:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks,	Jan 11 14:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Redmi 3 Is Xiaomi’s $100 Copy Of iPhone With A	Jan 11 14:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Blob-Free GNU Linux-libre 4.4 Kernel Released	Jan 11 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's New In Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" KDE	Jan 11 15:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/686549361900191744	Jan 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Arduino Tian @schestowitz How do I add ethernet ports ? Or is it just USB ? Nothing else...		Jan 11 16:14
schestowitz	Better ask the vendor...	Jan 11 16:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/686558115865714689	Jan 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: oh no, pls. not. I always found Nokia very inflexible when I reported firnware bugs https://t.co/o1knn2xd9f		Jan 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with Android phone soon https://t.co/KpSWwag0yA after https://t.co/ii9OOF2xrf		Jan 11 16:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/686583116350230528	Jan 11 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Oh... Okay.. @schestowitz I'll do that....		Jan 11 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/686594279138013185	Jan 11 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz this means that Facebook and Google will be measuring how radical their users are and reporting/selling that to the government?		Jan 11 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical: One Billion People "Benefit from"	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/WflpgpHnZJ	Jan 11 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac	Jan 11 17:42
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MinceR	https://code.google.com/p/google-security-research/issues/detail?id=693	Jan 11 19:25
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg	Jan 11 19:59
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTqV1pnQoos	Jan 11 19:59
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MinceR	my species 'tis of thy members you're dying out	Jan 11 20:01
msb_	US Conservatives hate this book! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States	Jan 11 20:01
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msb_	MinceR: Not all members -- not you and not me. A small percentage of organized psychopaths are making war on everyone else.	Jan 11 20:04
MinceR	i didn't say "all", though	Jan 11 20:04
msb_	It's really only a few. But they have learned how to program many others.	Jan 11 20:05
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msb_	The existence of computer programming should make it easier for people to admit the existence of human programming. As computer experts, we should be able to help with this education.	Jan 11 20:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert/status/686618675605037061	Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@daithaigilbert: Camilla Long after Michael Jackson died https://t.co/c3yKOMjRrW and Camilla Long today https://t.co/147OvoO231 https://t.co/J39QIkCUU6		Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@camillalong: Listening to Earth Song. Weeping		Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@camillalong: So many people "crying" or "in bits" over Bowie. FUCK YOU. You are not ten - you are an adult. Man the fuck up and say something interesting		Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@daithaigilbert: Camilla Long after Michael Jackson died https://t.co/c3yKOMjRrW and Camilla Long today https://t.co/147OvoO231 https://t.co/J39QIkCUU6		Jan 11 20:55
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 11 20:59
abeNd-org	hola	Jan 11 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review	Jan 11 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/98rbB9DEbu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekif	Jan 11 21:15
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abeNd-org	wtheck... as if email isnt spammy enough, now I am getting spam phone calls that look like they would be from down the street coming from india http://indiamobiletrace.com/9402222845.html	Jan 11 21:17
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abeNd-org	voip is neat, but im getting 3-4 spam calls like this a day, getting to the point i don't even bother answering my phone unless it is a whitelist #	Jan 11 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project's Virtues Begin and End With	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	Stability https://t.co/oSL97HNwAv	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekka	Jan 11 21:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Firefox 43.0.4 Now Available for All	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/kscS1ulG8n	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekkc	Jan 11 21:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Firefox 43.0.4 Now Available for All Ubuntu...'		Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel	Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	phone designs https://t.co/ewtKM5O5YG	Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oekty	Jan 11 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This	Jan 11 22:55
TweetTuxMachines	Friday, More New Features Landed	Jan 11 22:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WS21BaRY1V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 22:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeku2	Jan 11 22:55
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msb_	Too bad that abeNd-org ran off so quickly. I don't know if this anti-telemarketer system would work with his/her phone system, but it's been very effective with mine, reducing greedy psychopath calls from 3/day to 1/month. https://www.nomorobo.com/	Jan 11 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nomorobo.com \| Stop robocalls and telemarketers with Nomorobo		Jan 11 23:51
msb_	You set your phone account so incoming calls ring nomorobo's number as well as yours, and if it matches a POS in their database, they hang up the call after 0 or 1 ring. Very effective, and it's free!	Jan 11 23:54
msb_	It works on comcast voip phones and many others. Spread the word!	Jan 11 23:55
schestowitz	foss?	Jan 12 00:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This...'		Jan 12 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackArch Linux Provides Over 1330 Penetration	Jan 12 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Tools, New ISOs Out Now	Jan 12 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PB34auKBVv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oel9k	Jan 12 00:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/1/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Tails 1.8.2	Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/0Gyail5RZQ (techrights.org)	Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelc9	Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel	Jan 12 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 11/1/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Tails 1.8.2 \| Techrights		Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	phone designs https://t.co/WL4bb2OqSF	Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 12 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oele6	Jan 12 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel phone designs · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 12 01:28
MinceR	https://engage.redhat.com/enterprise-mobility-tech-event-201512122215?sc_cid=701600000011krgAAA	Jan 12 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-engage.redhat.com \| Red Hat Technical Event Series \| Red Hat		Jan 12 01:30
MinceR	"Case study: How a transport company has revolutionised its business using mobility"	Jan 12 01:30
cubexyz	more windows 10 horror stories on slashdot :)	Jan 12 01:37
cubexyz	the end is near	Jan 12 01:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zDhmpLPuzP (www.linuxlookup.com)	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeley	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project's Virtues Begin and End With	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	Stability https://t.co/Cr0MTK78sE	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxinsider.com)	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgq	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	Friday, More New Features Landed	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/INg9oFhBgf (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgr	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackArch Linux Provides Over 1330 Penetration	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Tools, New ISOs Out Now	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/l30uzgdnTH (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgs	Jan 12 01:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This...'		Jan 12 01:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Research Online: Receiver with open software	Jan 12 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	interface https://t.co/G41xCwdW9f	Jan 12 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	(gpsworld.com)	Jan 12 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgu	Jan 12 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SCALE 14x https://t.co/8i69oPhwPi	Jan 12 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oelgv	Jan 12 01:46
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cubexyz	the "get with the times" arguments about windows 10 are started to wear very thin	Jan 12 01:52
cubexyz	s/started/starting/	Jan 12 01:52
MinceR	well, these are dark times	Jan 12 01:52
MinceR	so in a way they're right	Jan 12 01:53
cubexyz	I'm reading about pro photographers going to Mint	Jan 12 01:53
MinceR	which sucks	Jan 12 01:54
cubexyz	it does? hmmmm	Jan 12 01:54
MinceR	it has cancerd	Jan 12 01:54
cubexyz	ok, I've never used it	Jan 12 01:54
MinceR	it has always been an ubuntu derivative with even more nonfree sw	Jan 12 01:54
MinceR	they also tried hacking up a debian derivative with more nonfree sw	Jan 12 01:54
cubexyz	ok, I knew that much	Jan 12 01:55
cubexyz	I just don't think we are going to see a mass exodus to the BSDs, not yet anyway	Jan 12 01:55
MinceR	i don't expect anything good anymore	Jan 12 01:55
MinceR	humanity will probably worship evil and stupidity even more, until it finally kills itself off	Jan 12 01:56
cubexyz	I tell people with multiple computers to try Linux or BSD	Jan 12 01:56
MinceR	just recently i was told on another channel that despite all the work they do to try and restrain vista10, it's so great and so secure	Jan 12 01:57
MinceR	by people who also love their hypePhones	Jan 12 01:58
MinceR	crApple made closed platforms with backdoors cool and hip	Jan 12 01:58
MinceR	m$ is making botnets, malware and spyware hip and cool	Jan 12 01:58
MinceR	redcrap and their worshipers are following suit	Jan 12 01:59
MinceR	the fsf still supports cancerd	Jan 12 02:00
MinceR	i wonder when they'll reverse their stance on restricted boot	Jan 12 02:01
cubexyz	TRIOS Linux is based on debian jessie with OpenRC	Jan 12 02:05
MinceR	so you can expect half of the packages to be either blocked from being installed or to hijack the system on install	Jan 12 02:06
MinceR	(with the latter being more likely, of course)	Jan 12 02:06
MinceR	for all the drivel earlier (and even nowadays) about how viruses and other malware are bad and how you should protect yourself, this "industry" has sure grown to embrace the ways of the malware	Jan 12 02:06
MinceR	hypeOS, vista10, cancerd	Jan 12 02:07
cubexyz	slackware and their derivatives are systemd free (so far)	Jan 12 02:07
cubexyz	that might be the tipping point	Jan 12 02:08
cubexyz	it's the oldest active linux distro	Jan 12 02:08
MinceR	or they will be forced also	Jan 12 02:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jamie_love/status/686729645027389441	Jan 12 02:08
MinceR	or simply ratcrap will force more crap into the kernel and make it unusable	Jan 12 02:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/scruffy_crunch/status/686730966786691072	Jan 12 02:08
MinceR	Volkerding didn't really make a stand against cancerd, just stated he'll avoid it if he can, iirc	Jan 12 02:08
MinceR	and of course it's possible that there simply won't be another release	Jan 12 02:09
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MinceR	https://archive.is/Kb1S3	Jan 12 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is \| Banishing 'Get Windows 10' nagware isn't as easy as you think \| InfoWorld		Jan 12 02:11
MinceR	also mentions AdBot (also known as Ed Bott) :>	Jan 12 02:11
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 12 02:11
cubexyz	I'm pretty happy with my lab setup	Jan 12 02:12
cubexyz	I have no iphone, no windows anything and no modern Red Hat	Jan 12 02:12
cubexyz	well technically I do run a couple of windows games via wine	Jan 12 02:13
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MinceR	apparently lusers don't mind	Jan 12 02:57
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cubexyz	Microsoft: Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders, when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies	Jan 12 06:15
cubexyz	Big Brother time	Jan 12 06:16
cubexyz	I mean, of course use Linux/BSD, can't believe that BSD isn't on the radar more	Jan 12 06:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection on Linux	Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8PF7jHQKRb (wccftech.com)	Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/D9vI97Jjcd (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac and Linux, System Specs Revealed		Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YO7wiVlcJ9	Jan 12 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection to Land on Linux on January 14		Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.develop-online.net)	Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lRFODZhxlZ (www.gamershell.com)	Jan 12 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.develop-online.net \| Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac and Linux via Steam \| Games industry press releases \| Develop		Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oembg	Jan 12 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamershell.com \| News: Medieval II: Total War Collection for Mac and Linux Coming to Steam, Trailer Released		Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War https://t.co/BMbQ0YI69O	Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Medieval II: Total War \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oembh	Jan 12 07:42
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cubexyz	msb, looks like .mn was blocked off	Jan 12 08:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/OvuDl58XUh (error)	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlm	Jan 12 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's unique about open source people	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q4tJrxYW9B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemln	Jan 12 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| What's unique about open source people \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	Support, Media Controls in Task Manager	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0nZekzyIpG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlo	Jan 12 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support, Media Controls in Task Manager \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Development https://t.co/jjYGdfwH5L	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlp	Jan 12 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Tizen in Devices https://t.co/owLhmj5zcw	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlq	Jan 12 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Latest Tizen in Devices \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
msb_	cubexyz: "msb, looks like .mn was blocked off" Is the significance of this that it was one of the domains used by Pirate Bay? Well, they're using a new one. You're gonna live this: https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-switches-on-new-ms-domain-160107/	Jan 12 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| The Pirate Bay Switches on New .MS Domain - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/oempf ]		Jan 12 10:47
msb_	live-> love	Jan 12 10:47
msb_	torrentfreak is the place to go to find info on subjects like this	Jan 12 10:51
msb_	Even poor cancer-ridden Linux gets a mention: https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-industry-rhetoric-ignores-the-existence-of-linux-and-wikipedia-011016/	Jan 12 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia - TorrentFreak		Jan 12 10:58
msb_	This Rick Falkvinge seems to be questioning the very foundation of capitalism. How dare he question the economic system that comfortably puts 99% of the world's wealth in the hands of the richest 0.1% of the people (if you can call those "people").	Jan 12 11:03
msb_	All sorts of interesting ideas here: https://falkvinge.net/	Jan 12 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net \| Falkvinge on Infopolicy - Discussions on civil liberties and information policy		Jan 12 11:04
cubexyz	hail hydra :)	Jan 12 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/xVaxTDgqHM	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr1	Jan 12 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Distros For Newcomers	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p93XUOEeX9 (www.datamation.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr2	Jan 12 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Delayed Officially and Ubuntu Needs	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	Direction https://t.co/DW0x04FPaG (ostatic.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr5	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Fedora 24 Delayed Officially and Ubuntu Needs Direction		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #redhat looks back at #containers (a concept	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	which its former staff created)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uGcHiGo1dr (rhelblog.redhat.com)	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhelblog.redhat.com \| Looking Back on Containers in 2015 – Red Hat Enterprise Linux Blog		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr6	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to Be	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	Named “Krypton”	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gsuo9GFmL2 (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr7	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to Be Named "Krypton"		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Investigating Solus 1.0 https://t.co/zFvLTy39XF	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	(distrowatch.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr8	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Jan 12 11:09
cubexyz	can't see how they could stop numeric ip address(es)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Likely Ship With #Golang 1.6	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0EqInGoua9 (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr9	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 24 Will Likely Ship With Golang 1.6 - Phoronix		Jan 12 11:10
msb_	Speaking of Linux, and in this case possibly noting an advantage of capitalism, I used to pay about $45 for a boxed set of SuSE Linux, shipped in from Germany, because it was so well crafted.	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 “Jarvis” Is the Last One, RCs	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	Will Soon Follow https://t.co/ZUtwQpNZlQ	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 "Jarvis" Is the Last One, RCs Will Soon Follow		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemra	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	Support for GTK3, Many Bugfixes	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WoFo8TZVtC (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrb	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with Support for GTK3, Many Bugfixes		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We Are The Dwarves, a real-time tactics game is	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	coming to Linux, and it looks awesome	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6NVGj02fBd (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrc	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| We Are The Dwarves, a real-time tactics game is coming to Linux, and it looks awesome \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Mini-STX motherboard and mini-PC pop up	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	at CES https://t.co/42WInTXGU8	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| First Mini-STX motherboard and mini-PC pop up at CES · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrd	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	Support, Media Controls in Task Manager	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/flNhQTxZCl (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemre	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support, Media Controls in Task Manager		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poll (ish): only one comment so far;	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Which Linux distribution do you use?	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QD2jl30VF9 (opensource.com)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrf	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@ebot70 Top hashtags for @tuxmachines: #android	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	#androidx86 #consoleos #containers #gnome	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hS9x3LOuv8 (www.redaelli.org)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemri	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redaelli.org \| EbotTwitter \| Matteo Redaelli		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Upcoming Features of #Fedora 24 Linux, the	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Alpha Build Arrives on March 1, 2016	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4soo9ZLiWL (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrj	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Upcoming Features of Fedora 24 Linux, the Alpha Build Arrives on March 1, 2016		Jan 12 11:11
msb_	I would gladly pay that much today for a well-supported up-to-date Linux distro whose maintainers swear that they will never adopt systemd.	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU Linux-libre, Free as in Freedo	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/in7bgHEcwS (www.fsfla.org)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrk	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org \| ::[FSFLA]:: GNU Linux-libre project		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.11 Release - 2016-01-11	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jzSwo6WkZ8 (www.gnucash.org)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrm	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnucash.org \| Free Accounting Software \| GnuCash		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	2016 with Hundreds of New Features	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gH26yW9Qir (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrn	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in 2016 with Hundreds of New Features		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 years TeX Live in Debian	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQCnyraDOG (www.preining.info)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemro	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info \| 10 years TeX Live in Debian \|		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/imRqXGCMyE	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.seventeen.com)	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seventeen.com \| 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in 2016		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrp	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Samsung Z1 Tizen 2.4, Firmware Available	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	to Download – Z130HDDU0COL6	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RQERNuuPQA (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrq	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| First Samsung Z1 Tizen 2.4, Firmware Available to Download - Z130HDDU0COL6 - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside Cyanogenmod https://t.co/PctjKJ2ODa	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/inside-cyanogenmod/ )		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrr	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: “Note that you can write build system	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	implementations in Python or Vala now.”	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9VyfoHVYXe (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrt	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2016/01/12/build-panel/ )		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung confirms 2015 Smart TVs to get Tizen	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	OTA update, No evolution kit update needed	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aTre3UI1U8 (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemru	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung confirms 2015 Smart TVs to get Tizen OTA update, No evolution kit update needed - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 11:13
msb_	IOW, Death to Hydra!	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vertu slapped a #Bentley logo on a mediocre	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	#Android phone and called it new	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ef3kNjd54p (www.theverge.com)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrv	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Vertu slapped a Bentley logo on a mediocre Android phone and called it new \| The Verge		Jan 12 11:13
*TweetTuxMachines @DawnAda88778275 favourited 'Vertu slapped a #Bentley logo on a mediocre...'		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “The latest MirrorManager release (0.6.1) which	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	is active since 2015-12-17 in Fedora’s	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	infrastructure” https://t.co/PHHBWzTDtG	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(lisas.de)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemry	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lisas.de \| New MirrorManager2 features \| For external use only		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With Real	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	Life” #IoT #Tizen https://t.co/hHJjO2Io4H	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrz	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With Real Life” #IoT #Tizen - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Won’t Make Moving to Android Any Easier	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/X0oo1f0mQE (fortune.com)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems3	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortune.com \| Apple Won't Make Moving to Android Any Easier - Fortune		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to stop pop-up ads on Android	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5u9qteih0Q (www.pcadvisor.co.uk)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems4	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| How to stop pop-up ads on Android - How-To - PC Advisor		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best new Android widgets (January 2016)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kMN3Pe1zSr (www.phonearena.com)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems5	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Best new Android widgets (January 2016)		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Stock: This Chart Shows Just How	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	Powerful #Android Is	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1UXmJrbJbM	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.profitconfidential.com)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems8	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.profitconfidential.com \| Google Stock: This Chart Shows Just How Powerful Android Is		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines TP-Link outs three Android smartphones - Neffos	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	C5L, C5, and C5 Max https://t.co/ZaTYLoxKmY	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gsmarena.com)	Jan 12 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com \| TP-Link outs three Android smartphones - Neffos C5L, C5, and C5 Max - GSMArena.com news		Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems9	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A build of GNOME from scratch	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UZ9u6XDKO5 (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	“quite functional and fairly well integrated.”	Jan 12 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/tvb/2016/01/11/a-build-of-gnome-from-scratch/ )		Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsa	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU on Smartphones (part II)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1L5VAN8bf5 (cascardo.info)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsd	Jan 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cascardo.info \| GNU on Smartphones (part II)		Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GranitePhone interview details the only way to	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	make Android more secure	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rn1y0muZsT	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemse	Jan 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com \| GranitePhone interview details the only way to make Android more secure - Android Authority		Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines N for Nutella? Rumored Features for Android N	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	Appear https://t.co/4cbBJE3fS0	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| N for Nutella? Rumored Features for Android N Appear \| Androidheadlines.com		Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsf	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux"	Jan 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nhKx5USSVL	Jan 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.maketecheasier.com)	Jan 12 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.maketecheasier.com/switch-windows-10-to-linux/ )		Jan 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsu	Jan 12 11:18
*TweetTuxMachines @glanceclock favourited 'Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With...'		Jan 12 11:18
cubexyz	I hate these articles that basically say Linux == Ubuntu	Jan 12 11:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	Years, Here's What's New	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qLxqj9EAzz (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtk	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in Years, Here's What's New		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Investigating Solus 1.0 https://t.co/E8JdsBmZI3	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtl	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Investigating Solus 1.0 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Reviewed, Arch Still Ahead, & Reasons to	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	Switch https://t.co/TcALrHX94b	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtn	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus Reviewed, Arch Still Ahead, & Reasons to Switch \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Distros For Newcomers	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JsFxOc39Mj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemto	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Linux Distros For Newcomers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux	Jan 12 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6pWVZp4TxS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtp	Jan 12 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in	Jan 12 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	Years, Here's What's New	Jan 12 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y8FUrq2YRb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemul	Jan 12 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in Years, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:45
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited '8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to...'		Jan 12 11:45
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited 'Best Linux Distros For Newcomers https://t.co/JsFxOc39Mj'		Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-Based Drones Upstage Other Mobile Gadgets	Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	at CES https://t.co/OE4NoFwD4M (www.linux.com)	Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemw0	Jan 12 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux-Based Drones Upstage Other Mobile Gadgets at CES \| Linux.com		Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cgroup v2 Is To Be Made Official With Linux 4.5	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PBsGkPsxAK (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemws	Jan 12 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Cgroup v2 Is To Be Made Official With Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Knights Landing Perf Support Comes To	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/XttqSzfi6d	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Intel Knights Landing Perf Support Comes To Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemwt	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Neat drm/i915 stuff for 4.5	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NhKAqNqYJ4 (blog.ffwll.ch)	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemwu	Jan 12 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ffwll.ch \| stuff by danvet: Neat drm/i915 stuff for 4.5		Jan 12 12:13
*amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-25-153.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights		Jan 12 12:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/686892966326059008	Jan 12 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: LOL! That's why I want to switch my infra to @ibmpowerLinux / @IBMPowerSystems #POWER-based computing. #GNU/#Linux https://t.co/8SUKVFlDke		Jan 12 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel Skylake bug causes PCs to freeze during complex workloads https://t.co/g09ko8a6yj #intel is rubbish. https://t.co/KLQfuCTQKm		Jan 12 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Skylake Out, It's Becoming Easier To Build	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	A Cheap Haswell Xeon Linux System	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Wc6GgNVlyx (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1l	Jan 12 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| With Skylake Out, It's Becoming Easier To Build A Cheap Haswell Xeon Linux System - Phoronix		Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	Plans https://t.co/VqJunVoN63 (techrights.org)	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1m	Jan 12 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24 Plans \| Techrights		Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/7YAMmtrpul	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1p	Jan 12 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:02
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24 Plans...'		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/U5QMMWYOHe	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2a	Jan 12 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/C5wNAPVXnw	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2k	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/gfeUIxhvGw	Jan 12 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/alr7nvzyes	Jan 12 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen2m	Jan 12 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq	Jan 12 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen4m	Jan 12 13:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/7YAMmtrpul'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support,...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 “Jarvis” Is the Last...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with Support for...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support,...'		Jan 12 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Upcoming Features of #Fedora 24 Linux, the Alpha...'		Jan 12 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in...'		Jan 12 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release...'		Jan 12 13:50
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq'		Jan 12 13:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/686907231678390273	Jan 12 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Kai Uwe says the focus for Plasma 5.6 was on removing obstacles in the way between u and your tasks, getting in ur way less :)		Jan 12 13:59
schestowitz	performance there was my main issue/barrier	Jan 12 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@The_Code_Shirts	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oendw	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fpDWY3XxG5 (www.zdnet.com)	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oendx	Jan 12 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4 \| ZDNet		Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Fi and replacement phones: Android	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	could learn from Fedora…	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rtws8MfIrz (dissociatedpress.net)	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenff	Jan 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'dissociatedpress.net' ( status 0 @ http://dissociatedpress.net/project-fi-and-replacement-phones-android-could-learn-from-fedora/ )		Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another European conference about #freesw and	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux: "I put together desktop, Fedora, and	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	CentOS tracks" https://t.co/y9wLyxE2Pb	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	(eischmann.wordpress.com)	Jan 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com \| Schedule of DevConf.cz 2016 is out! \| Brno's hat		Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenfg	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Reasons Why Ubuntu Is Killing It In The	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud https://t.co/mJ53lxY2eL (www.forbes.com)	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenfh	Jan 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Forbes Welcome		Jan 12 15:05
schestowitz	>> ... is the defeat of SCADA	Jan 12 15:12
schestowitz	>> > systems by way of a multiphased attack — not unlike Stuxnet. Hmm…	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> I know someone who worked / works with water processing. Last time I	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> spoke with him, which was some time ago, he refused to have anything to	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> do with putting the systems on the Internet in any way shape or form.	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> Unfortunately I recently saw an old shodan screenshot of some hydro	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> system with a UI in his language, so less intelligent minds are getting	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> their way.	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	I don't know if SCADA always runs on Windows.	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/12/messi-is-an-extraterrestrial/	Jan 12 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org \| Messi Is an Extraterrestrial		Jan 12 15:15
schestowitz	OT	Jan 12 15:15
schestowitz	"Many claim that Messi is the result of Pep Guardiola’s teachings in Barcelona. They seem to forget that as a child, in Argentina, Messi was already a brilliant player. Ernesto Vecchio, a coach from his youth, said, “As a player, he is very similar now to how he was as a youngster.” He added, “He decides in milliseconds what he is going to do with the ball at his feet.”	Jan 12 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat’s #Ansible 2.0 brings new power to	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	devops https://t.co/FJi2avwNQV	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Jan 12 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Red Hat's Ansible 2.0 brings new power to devops \| InfoWorld		Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenit	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Debian Developers and Maintainers (November	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	and December 2015) https://t.co/WL62D2C4HM	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	(bits.debian.org)	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeniu	Jan 12 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/01/new-developers-2015-12.html )		Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RemixOS Brings Desktop-Style Android to	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	Intel-Based PCs https://t.co/70qNXTk4rK	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	(lifehacker.com)	Jan 12 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| RemixOS Brings Desktop-Style Android to Intel-Based PCs		Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeniv	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homefront: The Revolution aiming for a day-1	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	Linux & SteamOS release on May 20th	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/evHdV9jnmM (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkj	Jan 12 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Homefront: The Revolution aiming for a day-1 Linux & SteamOS release on May 20th \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Remix OS Is Bringing Android To Old x86 PC	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	(And Mac) For Free https://t.co/lhozxyVGus	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jan 12 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| How To Run Android On Any Old x86 PC (and Mac) For Free With Remix OS		Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkk	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/65bFk0a1kT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkl	Jan 12 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9		Jan 12 15:36
msb_	A most wonderful movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2361509/combined	Jan 12 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Intern (2015/I)		Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best	Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Release In Years?	Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gkcmr1I7t0 (fossbytes.com)	Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenlj	Jan 12 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best Ubuntu Release In Years?		Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Developers Preparing For PHP 7.0 In	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Stretch https://t.co/9EMnwu7Dng	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Developers Preparing For PHP 7.0 In Stretch - Phoronix		Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenlk	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/EObxkhwCEj	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenll	Jan 12 15:48
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oiaohm	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpG40WiEfM What is happening with cgroups with cgroup v2 is partly why I have been willing to let systemd go. History of development of many things in the Linux world follow the patten of implment every feature then reimplment with restrictions that works.	Jan 12 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| NYLUG Presents: Tejun Heo on cgroups and cgroups v2 (Feb 18th, 2015) - YouTube		Jan 12 16:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sljc3039/status/686945627440168961	Jan 12 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	"	Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	4 minutes ago	Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	@schestowitz @FOSSpatents have loved your blog, but I must say your blog today was way out. Trump is a bigoted racist, not the 2nd coming	Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	"	Jan 12 16:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 https://t.co/65bFk0a1kT'		Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM targets flexible mainframes with open	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	source golang on z Systems	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Nriy2b0Fu (www.cbronline.com)	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JDFPXIu1yj (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrq	Jan 12 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com \| IBM targets flexible mainframes with open source golang on z Systems - Computer Business Review		Jan 12 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| All Systems z are Go: IBM ports Google language to mainframes • The Register		Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/8ahScVwIZE	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrr	Jan 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into Linux 4.5 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/rqoi7wCyzr	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrv	Jan 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM and Golang https://t.co/QcIMa55gJc	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenry	Jan 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IBM and Golang \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Telegram 0.9.18 Released With Some Improvements	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	And Bug Fixes https://t.co/raMeYkjFxO	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuh	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Telegram 0.9.18 Released With Some Improvements And Bug Fixes \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/MgBN535J0S	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenui	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/Z4KZfPPpWA (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuj	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off 2016 - Phoronix		Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived https://t.co/v98cOlAOBD	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ansible.com)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuk	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ansible.com \| Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived		Jan 12 16:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6958386	Jan 12 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poll (ish): only one comment so far; Which Linux distribution do you use? https://opensource.com/life/16/1/which-linux-distribution-do-you-use #gnu #linux		Jan 12 17:48
schestowitz	"The best one. Frosty Goat Linux!"	Jan 12 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com		Jan 12 17:48
schestowitz	Never heard of it	Jan 12 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJ46JUXHGA (error)	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeo53	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Transform Your Ubuntu Into Windows 10 Look With	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	These GTK Themes https://t.co/dAW7J4eNFA	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeo5c	Jan 12 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Transform Your Ubuntu Into Windows 10 Look With These GTK Themes \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 18:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived https://t.co/h5Hah02Uv4	Jan 12 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov0	Jan 12 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mPB213JKD6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov1	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged wireless-ready box-PC runs Linux on	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Cortex-A9 https://t.co/Yn36pyVP4H	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov2	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rugged wireless-ready box-PC runs Linux on Cortex-A9 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Linux won without winning	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CEmltKKG6U (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov3	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How Linux won without winning \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Drupal Hardens Its Security in Response to	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Criticism https://t.co/2osCukEs7p	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov4	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Drupal Hardens Its Security in Response to Criticism \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	30 Bugfixes Across All Apps	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Rdya9nASb9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov5	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than 30 Bugfixes Across All Apps \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
msb_	schestowitz: This anti-Linux article -- touted in tuxmachines -- uses the term "[Linux] zealot" twice, and says, "Linux as a desktop OS remains a hobbyist, Tinkertoy-style platform, for people who don't want to run commercial apps but command-line everything". -- http://www.infoworld.com/article/3019852/linux/how-linux-won-without-winning.html	Jan 12 21:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| How Linux won without winning \| InfoWorld		Jan 12 21:44
msb_	"Linux blew its chance to be a mainstream desktop OS when it failed to offer a usable version for regular people"	Jan 12 21:45
MinceR	as expected from IDG	Jan 12 21:46
schestowitz	an apple booster in this case	Jan 12 21:50
schestowitz	it's rianne's choice	Jan 12 21:50
schestowitz	I warned her this write is an arse	Jan 12 21:50
schestowitz	she posted it anyway	Jan 12 21:50
msb_	The tuxmachines post should have a warning.	Jan 12 21:52
msb_	Good Lord man, can't you keep your woman under control? 8^)	Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz	he doesn't know android uses linux	Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz	" You rarely see Linux when you boot your computer or turn on your smartphone, but the truth is Linux is everywhere"	Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz	Right, only 85% of phones run linux	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	but an apple zealot won't mention that	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	anyway, that's IDG for you	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	they actually have some MS staff (present) as writers	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	and some MS MVPs too	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	idg is not a news source. It's a sort of corporate cancer masquerading as a news network and setting trends based on sponsors ($)	Jan 12 21:55
schestowitz	When #apple zealots call #freesw proponents "zealots" and fail to note that #android runs #linux we know only #idg is crap enough to hire them	Jan 12 21:55
schestowitz	I guess I'll write something about this later on	Jan 12 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.8 Beta Arrives with Btrfs Support	Jan 12 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	and New Linux Kernel https://t.co/LgAmH2KFj2	Jan 12 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oep2i	Jan 12 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Lite 2.8 Beta Arrives with Btrfs Support and New Linux Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 22:09
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than 30...'		Jan 12 22:09
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cubexyz	infoworld?	Jan 12 22:53
cubexyz	well whatever, people want off the microsoft crap	Jan 12 22:58
cubexyz	and making windows 10 a 'service' means there's no snapshot to load from	Jan 12 23:15
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	I have an article about this on the way	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	though I try not to lose too much time bashing Vista 10, there are more serious issues	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	and even MS boosters started attacking Vista 10	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	they don't want it, they're not happy with it being imposed	Jan 12 23:23
schestowitz	and older versions getting abandoned, no support	Jan 12 23:23
schestowitz	maybe they'll just decide to move to "Mac" PC or GNU/Linux	Jan 12 23:23
oiaohm	The reality is Android does not use X11. The biggest thing that has kept on holding the Linux Desktop back as soon as you suggest it some looking into security faults hello X11 swiss cheese.	Jan 12 23:48
oiaohm	Also the multi gpu issue that came from vendors on Linux not wanting todo cooperative stacks either.	Jan 12 23:49
oiaohm	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta the first time closed source nvidia drivers not designed to replace core parts of Opengl stack on Linux yes it took until 2016 for this to turn up.	Jan 12 23:51
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cubexyz	http://cubexyz.blogspot.ca	Jan 13 00:01
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cubexyz	wow, some folks are actually listening to my audio blog on ancient Unix	Jan 13 00:16
cubexyz	guess someone linked to it	Jan 13 00:16
cubexyz	people have such short attention spans these days	Jan 13 00:17
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schestowitz	i did	Jan 13 00:51
schestowitz	on my rss feeds	Jan 13 00:51
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sebsebseb	ping MinceR cubexyz schestowitz	Jan 13 00:57
MinceR	pong	Jan 13 00:57
schestowitz	0/	Jan 13 01:02
schestowitz	coecoecoe	Jan 13 01:03
cubexyz	hmmm?	Jan 13 01:11
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cubexyz	ever heard about cyclopeadia.de ?	Jan 13 01:22
cubexyz	named after some ancient encyclopedia	Jan 13 01:24
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cubexyz	in fact, cyclopeadia is the archaic term for encyclopedia	Jan 13 01:26
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclop%C3%A6dia,_or_an_Universal_Dictionary_of_Arts_and_Sciences	Jan 13 01:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amayita/status/687081586928578562	Jan 13 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amayita: @schestowitz any credible source for that? I'm interested in the coroner report, is it public record?		Jan 13 01:29
schestowitz	Someone told me this, but didn't provide link/doc	Jan 13 01:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amayita/status/687084335229460481	Jan 13 01:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/687091168006426624	Jan 13 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz In other words, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM :)		Jan 13 02:01
schestowitz	context: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687090301148741632	Jan 13 02:01
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msb_	The cancer is spreading. https://tails.boum.org/news/test_2.0-rc1/index.en.html "Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity. It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship" What's New: " the use of Linux namespaces, set up by systemd."	Jan 13 08:13
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msb_	Death penalty for non-violent protest. Turkey? ISIL-controlled Syria? No, London. RT ran this documentary tonight: http://kettlingofthevoices.com/ "Kettling" means surrounding crowds of non-violent protestors with 3-deep rings of police, compressing them into the smallest possible space, and pushing steel fences over on top of them, keeping them imprisoned for, e.g., 12 hours, without water or toilet facilities. In 2010 students	Jan 13 08:38
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msb_	protested against austerity changes in higher education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_student_protests " Around 30 protesters were treated, most for head injuries.[67] Police used batons to hit protesters... One protester, philosophy student Alfie Meadows, suffered a blow to the head from a police truncheon that knocked him unconscious. Taken to hospital, it was discovered that he was suffering from bleeding	Jan 13 08:38
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msb_	of the brain, and required brain surgery." Hitting someone on the head with a heavy blunt object is ATTEMPTED MURDER.	Jan 13 08:38
oiaohm	msb: unfortunately not the way it works. Who took him to hospital. If the police did its not Attempted murder. If the person was not fighting back its techically a assult charge.	Jan 13 08:44
oiaohm	msb_: Police training covers using battons against head to control targets. The force is meant to be controlled for min risk to life.	Jan 13 08:46
oiaohm	msb_: min risk to life does not rule out bleed on brian.	Jan 13 08:46
msb_	So "minimum risk to life" includes murder.	Jan 13 08:47
msb_	One of the main ways that the ruling psychopaths program people is by grossly distorted usage of words. Instead of "mass murder of millions of people" they say "war". Instead of "attempted murder of innocent people" they say "control targets". The psychopaths, with their control of the corporate media, repeat such monstrous lies so many times, and from so many directions, that non-critical thinkers end up believing them. "What you	Jan 13 09:01
msb_	tell me three times is true."	Jan 13 09:01
oiaohm	msb_: Please remember the police have downgraded from using swords.	Jan 13 09:01
oiaohm	msb_: to battons.	Jan 13 09:01
oiaohm	msb_: the define of min risk the police use is horible.	Jan 13 09:02
oiaohm	msb_: here is something nasty cattle and dogs have more rights to water and toilet facilities than a crowd of people.	Jan 13 09:04
oiaohm	msb_: yes that is UK and Australian law.	Jan 13 09:05
oiaohm	msb_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpG40WiEfM watch how cgroups were developed then can you tell me that systemd will not follow the same development model?	Jan 13 09:12
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oiaohm	msb_: also read the wikipedia on that 2010 protests. The police on the 10 of November gave them students the benifit of presuming they would be peaceful. Once that is broke the ammount of force police is allowed to apply self defence increases a lot. Yes kocking peoples lights out as first action becomes acceptable.	Jan 13 09:14
msb_	Only acceptable to psychopaths.	Jan 13 09:15
oiaohm	msb_: not at all.	Jan 13 09:15
oiaohm	msb_: the problem here is once a croud has the possiblity of being hostile self defence mandates keeping them outside their arm lenths.	Jan 13 09:16
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oiaohm	msb_: Rules of combat are rules of combat. People start doing hostile actions you can end up in the horible location of force canceling force.	Jan 13 09:17
oiaohm	msb_: question how many police strikes generated 30 harmed protestors needing medical add. You would find out lots of strikes were correctly placed to do min harm. Using a batton always has a percentage of error.	Jan 13 09:19
oiaohm	msb_: please also take into account countries with psychopaths in charge would have just used a machine gun into crowd it is lower risk to their own forces.	Jan 13 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lots of #RemixOS in headlines recently, e.g.	Jan 13 09:28
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cubexyz	ok, is there any reason to run android on a PC?	Jan 13 09:30
oiaohm	msb_: I guess you have never trained using a batton to know where you aim to hit and where you in fact hit is dependant not only on your action but the action of the person targeted heck the person targeted may not be the person hit. So percentage of error so any police action using battons you expect so many head hits.	Jan 13 09:31
msb_	You are one sick fuck.	Jan 13 09:31
oiaohm	: Not at all I have truly done hand to hand combat training and know the law. By the way police targeting your sholder to induce pain and hit you in head is not attempted murder at worst if person dues is accidental homicide.	Jan 13 09:34
oiaohm	dues/dies	Jan 13 09:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: familiarity would be a reason for android on PC they use it on phone/tablet.	Jan 13 09:36
oiaohm	msb_: police have very limited weapons for crowd control most can induce death. Tear gas, shield, batons, even bar hands can all induce death. How many strikes does it take to kill a person with a baton if you are indenting to. The answer is 1. Correct place hit is death in 30 seconds.	Jan 13 09:39
cubexyz	oiaohm, I can think of many better ways to stop people without using a baton	Jan 13 09:40
oiaohm	msb_: zero deaths before medical treatment alone tells you the police were not aiming to kill.	Jan 13 09:40
cubexyz	there was immobilizing foam for one	Jan 13 09:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: immobilizing foam has a higher kill rate than batons.	Jan 13 09:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: its why its not used more.	Jan 13 09:41
cubexyz	how could foam kill anyone?	Jan 13 09:41
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oiaohm	cubexyz: if you breath it in the stuff can block your lungs.	Jan 13 09:42
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oiaohm	cubexyz: lot faster death than a bleed on brain.	Jan 13 09:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: the mistake with immobilizing foam was found out by police policy that police have to experience containment tech used on themselves. Cost 4 police officers in training in one session.	Jan 13 09:44
cubexyz	sticky foam seems to be the most used term	Jan 13 09:46
cubexyz	yes, I see the risk of suffocation	Jan 13 09:46
oiaohm	suffocation is a very quick to fatal.	Jan 13 09:47
cubexyz	oiaohm, it still seems that police are killing people unnecessarily	Jan 13 09:47
cubexyz	especially people on the fringe, mentally ill, homeless, teenagers etc	Jan 13 09:48
msb_	Tabulation for oiaohm: 1. systemd is necessary and good for Linux 2. cannabis is dangerous (despite the fact that people titrate to effect) 3. blunt head trauma is the best way for police to control crowds. WTF do we have here?	Jan 13 09:48
cubexyz	I don't think he actually said that about systemd	Jan 13 09:49
oiaohm	msb_: again you miss quote me on number 1.	Jan 13 09:50
msb_	He has in fact stated many claims that systemd corrects important problems in Linux.	Jan 13 09:50
oiaohm	I said that systemd was necessary to happen for the good for Linux. Because time had not been spent planing out how Linux systems should boot.	Jan 13 09:50
oiaohm	Now I expect systemd to be like cgroup v1 vs cgroup v2	Jan 13 09:51
msb_	QED	Jan 13 09:51
cubexyz	oiaohm, why don't you check what the stock exchanges use? I bet they aren't using systemd	Jan 13 09:51
cubexyz	if anyone wants reliability it's the stock exchange	Jan 13 09:51
cubexyz	they were using AIX, HP-UX and Solaris before	Jan 13 09:53
oiaohm	msb_: number 2 like it or not the medical data on cannabis exists. The chemical you where pushing was the documented harmful. I in fact quoted documents on the techical mert of a particular chemical in the non get high stuff.	Jan 13 09:53
oiaohm	msb_: so on cannabis you had your facts wrong.	Jan 13 09:54
oiaohm	msb_: like it or not crowd control is a risky business no matter how you do it someone will get hurt.	Jan 13 09:55
cubexyz	many many people have spoke out against systemd, it's not just one or two disgruntled greybeards	Jan 13 09:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: many people may have spoke out against systemd but its funny how many of the arguements were in fact blaming systemd for issues that happened under sysvinit anyhow.	Jan 13 09:56
oiaohm	cubexyz: many people were also upset with sysvinit as well.	Jan 13 09:57
cubexyz	I don't have any problems with sysvinit	Jan 13 09:58
cubexyz	and I've been running it a long time	Jan 13 09:58
oiaohm	cubexyz: systemd is following the cgroup v1 design model of just keep on adding features. Now after cgroup v1 tried every path they are now rebuilding cgroup v2 based on what they learnt from v1	Jan 13 09:58
cubexyz	I don't use cgroups	Jan 13 09:59
oiaohm	cubexyz: do you run multi partition setups with separate /var to /	Jan 13 09:59
cubexyz	no, it's the same partition	Jan 13 10:00
oiaohm	Ok then you are fine if you had answered yes there is a bug there that systemd addresses by adding a x-initrd.mount flag to fstab to make intrd load extra partitions while still in the ram drive.	Jan 13 10:01
cubexyz	on FC1 (server) / and /var are on the same partition	Jan 13 10:01
oiaohm	cubexyz: have you ever seen a dead.letter file	Jan 13 10:02
cubexyz	on openbsd / and /var are separate partitions	Jan 13 10:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: do you know what /dead.letter if you see it means.	Jan 13 10:02
cubexyz	I haven't seen a dead.letter file in a long time	Jan 13 10:03
oiaohm	failed harddrive.	Jan 13 10:04
cubexyz	I think it happens if you try to send mail and it failed	Jan 13 10:04
oiaohm	/dead.letter is a file that is auto created in case of harddrive failure.	Jan 13 10:04
oiaohm	Of course that is no use if / is still in state read only.	Jan 13 10:05
oiaohm	This is where sysvinit partion mounting comes apart big time.	Jan 13 10:05
cubexyz	oiaohm, I think you need to read man mail :)	Jan 13 10:05
cubexyz	I have no recollection of dead.letter being used to mean a failed hard drive ever	Jan 13 10:06
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oiaohm	cubexyz: its one of the trick questions.	Jan 13 10:07
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oiaohm	/dead.letter is not in your home directory	Jan 13 10:07
oiaohm	In your home directory you are right its mail.	Jan 13 10:07
cubexyz	can you cite some documentation for this?	Jan 13 10:08
cubexyz	I can see when it first appeared: in Unix v6 mail.c	Jan 13 10:11
oiaohm	cubexyz: to be correct it is and is not mail. System error happens before system has mail system up. Application attempt to email. No users maps are active this include /root user. Result messages in /dead.letter	Jan 13 10:11
oiaohm	cubexyz: most common item to find in /dead.letter is of course drive failures.	Jan 13 10:12
cubexyz	a good operator should be watching dmesg and doing regular fsck so that if the drive starts to fail they wouldn't be caught unawares	Jan 13 10:13
cubexyz	there should be some warning, I don't usually see drives immediately although it is possible	Jan 13 10:13
oiaohm	More details on the failure can be in fact send to /dead.letter than what was recorded in dmesg	Jan 13 10:13
oiaohm	So when you are mounting your core partitions you want /dead.letter location if possible writable and extractable if need.	Jan 13 10:14
cubexyz	if it's all on one drive and it fails it's backup time	Jan 13 10:14
oiaohm	cubexyz: maybe if message is failing heads time to take drive to data recovery firm before doing anything else.	Jan 13 10:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: basically core boot up order has been wrong for a very long time.	Jan 13 10:16
cubexyz	updatedb errors should tell you if the drive is going bad	Jan 13 10:16
cubexyz	I think that looks at the whole filesystem	Jan 13 10:16
cubexyz	there's a lot of info in root's mail and most of the time I don't usually look at it	Jan 13 10:17
cubexyz	but I do pay attention to dmesg	Jan 13 10:17
oiaohm	cubexyz: please note /dead.letter messages happen when root user does not recieve the mail.	Jan 13 10:18
oiaohm	at least under sysvinit.	Jan 13 10:18
cubexyz	critical files are backed up once a day to a different hard drive on a different computer	Jan 13 10:18
oiaohm	Journald was in fact design to go and pick up the /dead.letter and attempt to deliver it after the fact.	Jan 13 10:18
oiaohm	Something I have not understood is why syslogs solutions don't go and pick it up.	Jan 13 10:19
msb_	oiaohm's corporate psychopath claims are contradicted by _reality_. 1. Linux has been in use for 25 years in 100 million or more installations and has worked fine with sysvinit; any problems are very infrequent and easy to correct due to good Unix engineering practices. 2. During the 1960s hundreds of millions of people smoked cannabis in the US; nobody suffered ill effects unless they smoked far too much, in which case all they	Jan 13 10:19
msb_	suffered was a few hours of anxiety; while cannabis today may be stronger, people smoke correspondingly less. They smoke until they get the effect they desire (titrate to effect). 3. There are many non-lethal methods of crowd control: firehoses, tear gas, batons used anywhere _except_ the head, neck, spine. oiaohm is a lying sack of shit.	Jan 13 10:19
oiaohm	msb_: batons people trip and people get pushed. You aim for the correct place you don't always hit there.	Jan 13 10:21
cubexyz	surely the police don't aim for the head?	Jan 13 10:21
cubexyz	but clearly they must hit the head in some cases	Jan 13 10:21
oiaohm	msb_: people have died due tear gas and firehoses.	Jan 13 10:21
oiaohm	msb_: at a higher rate than using batons and shields.	Jan 13 10:21
cubexyz	Kelly Thomas is the most prominent example	Jan 13 10:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: a shock tap to the head is aimed at the jaw.	Jan 13 10:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: now if you miss that strike big problems.	Jan 13 10:23
cubexyz	oiaohm, are you familiar with this case:	Jan 13 10:24
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I am familiar with the differerent combat strikes that are meant to be used.	Jan 13 10:24
cubexyz	some of the police are morphing into a quasi-military thug-like group	Jan 13 10:25
cubexyz	I think that's what people are worried about	Jan 13 10:26
oiaohm	cubexyz: the problem is the gap between containment and excessive force is not much. Quality of training is very important something USA police are not known for.	Jan 13 10:27
oiaohm	Just throwing a person to ground can a look absolutely identical and 1 be excessive force and 1 be perfectly fine the difference is speed of move and the resulting speed of impact with ground.	Jan 13 10:29
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oiaohm	cubexyz: to me the Kelly Thomas damage reads like poorly trained Police attempting todo a containment on a unwilling person.	Jan 13 10:32
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oiaohm	cubexyz: really who ever was responsible for those Police officers training should have been pulled into court. Of course this never happens in civilian courts where in cases like this in mils it happens.	Jan 13 10:33
msb_	The fundamental problem with representative "democracy" is that there are enough layers between the voters and the elected rulers that wealthy psychopaths can get in and gain control by bribery or threats. That leaves protests as the only way that people can try to control the government. But now protests are being defined as "terrorism", punishable by death.	Jan 13 10:33
oiaohm	msb_: I would not say protests are the only way. Stunts the yes men pulled show there was at least 1 other way.	Jan 13 10:35
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msb_	Note the Kent State massacre. It was no accident. People heard the orders given to the soldiers.	Jan 13 10:38
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oiaohm	msb_: with cannabis today with the strongest plants one breath in is overdoeses on THC. The issue with cannabis is as THC level goes up protective CBD goes down. So basically toxicity problem.	Jan 13 10:41
oiaohm	msb_: so stronger does not mean person will have a chance to smoke less. Stronger means possiblity of instant overdoes.	Jan 13 10:42
msb_	It's easy to smoke less. Simply pull in less air thru the cigarette, more air around it.	Jan 13 10:43
msb_	If one does OD, the only bad effect is a few hours of anxiety.	Jan 13 10:44
oiaohm	msb_: the ratio out.	Jan 13 10:45
oiaohm	msb_: CBD is required to keep THC safe.	Jan 13 10:45
oiaohm	msb_: not enough CBD to counter intake amount of THC you are in trouble.	Jan 13 10:45
msb_	Interesting: my name is known and so is cubexyz's, also xrevan86. What is _your_ real name?	Jan 13 10:46
oiaohm	msb_: more air does alter the ratio does it.	Jan 13 10:46
msb_	more air, less smoke	Jan 13 10:47
oiaohm	msb_: its the ratio of active compound that does the harm.	Jan 13 10:47
msb_	what harm?	Jan 13 10:47
oiaohm	THC is a memory blocker.	Jan 13 10:48
oiaohm	As well as other nerve blocking actions.	Jan 13 10:48
oiaohm	CBD prevents THC from doing that.	Jan 13 10:48
oiaohm	So not enough CBD to THC you are in trouble.	Jan 13 10:49
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oiaohm	Basically smoke better ratio stuff.	Jan 13 10:49
msb_	Never happened to me. Also it's temporary.	Jan 13 10:49
oiaohm	Long term THC damage caused by having THC without correct ratio of CBD is not tempory. Its long term damage to means to produce short term memories.	Jan 13 10:50
oiaohm	OD with correct ammount of CBD is temporary.	Jan 13 10:51
msb_	If people OD, they only do so once.	Jan 13 10:51
oiaohm	Please note OD with THC and CBD in correct ratios does not do much damage to means to make short term memories.	Jan 13 10:52
oiaohm	Now same mount of THC with out correct counter ammount of CBD will do major damage.	Jan 13 10:52
oiaohm	msb_: remember to make long term memories you normally need to get it into short term memory first.	Jan 13 10:53
oiaohm	Big reason to legalese cannabis would be to get rid of the wrong ratio stuff.	Jan 13 10:54
msb_	oiaohm: The purpose of your lying psychopath propaganda is to discourage people from using cannabis, because it can help people wake up from being a slave to the psychopaths. The psychopaths don't want them to wake up.	Jan 13 10:54
oiaohm	msb_: In fact pure CBD is more likely to make someone see through propaganda.	Jan 13 10:55
msb_	All my friends smoked cannabis lots of different types. None of them had memory problems	Jan 13 10:55
msb_	you claim your mutated cannabinoid receptors don't even work. How would you know, you goddamn anonymos POS?	Jan 13 10:56
oiaohm	http://www.techtimes.com/articles/39538/20150313/marijuana-use-in-teen-years-may-lead-to-memory-loss.htm	Jan 13 10:57
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oiaohm	msb_: number there are a lot of studies on this.	Jan 13 10:58
msb_	You want to destroy Linux, consciousness , and the ability to protest. You are a monster.	Jan 13 10:58
oiaohm	msb_: CBD has been proven to improve memory. THC is proven to harm it.	Jan 13 10:58
oiaohm	msb_: of course as the studies have shown those with damaged memory normally don't notice it because the damage becomes their normal.	Jan 13 10:59
oiaohm	msb_: also they don't notice that they have lost IQ to see through deceptions.	Jan 13 10:59
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oiaohm	msb_: so claiming your friends don't notice the lost memory would be nothing strange. Does not change the way the chemical work on human body.	Jan 13 11:01
oiaohm	msb_: CBD also suppresses addition. So able to reduce CBD means dealer at times can move more product due to person craving more. This is why smoke less theory also does not hold. To be able to smoke less is also dependent on the ratio remaining correct.	Jan 13 11:05
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msb_	Cannabis is not addictive. Tell us your name, psychopath.	Jan 13 11:08
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oiaohm	msb_: THC is addictive like it or not.	Jan 13 11:09
oiaohm	msb_: correct ratio Cannabis is not addictive because it has enough CBD to counter this problem.	Jan 13 11:10
oiaohm	msb_: basically there is safe Cannabis and unsafe Cannabis. So blanket statements that Cannabis is addictive or not addictive is both lies.	Jan 13 11:11
oiaohm	msb_: Cannabis safety is all about the ratio of active chemicals.	Jan 13 11:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @RiCHi favourited '#apple nervous? https://t.co/9xSG1rmgwJ https://t.co/zNasNJjmj2 "carriers are forcing the...'		Jan 13 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net \| Apple Denies Working on Tool to Make iPhone-to-Android Switch Easier \| Re/code		Jan 13 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@RiCHi @schestowitz @tuxmachines thanks for sharing my	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	@Computerworld foolishness! For more #ITBW:	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xFmmNwlkBh (plus.google.com)	Jan 13 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Brief Guide to Alternatives to Windows: 2016	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	Edition https://t.co/1yQnsZmn57	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	(cubexyz.blogspot.com)	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerqn	Jan 13 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com \| Notes on Linux: A Brief Guide to Alternatives to Windows: 2016 Edition		Jan 13 11:51
schestowitz	"That’s because of the great DistroWatch Conspiracy™! 2016 is the year of the FGL desktop!"	Jan 13 11:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6958386	Jan 13 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poll (ish): only one comment so far; Which Linux distribution do you use? https://opensource.com/life/16/1/which-linux-distribution-do-you-use #gnu #linux		Jan 13 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/oemab ]		Jan 13 11:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ACPI & Power Management Updates For Linux 4.5	Jan 13 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tYHw6Y67Ei (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 13 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerro	Jan 13 11:58
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schestowitz	> "Linux as a desktop OS remains a hobbyist, Tinkertoy-style platform,	Jan 13 12:04
schestowitz	> for people who don't want to run commercial apps but command-line	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> everything. "	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	>	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> x	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3019852/linux/how-linux-won-without-winning.html	Jan 13 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| How Linux won without winning \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oersh ]		Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	>	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> bullshit	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	yes, saw that...	Jan 13 12:05
cubexyz	well they may have meant the tinkertoy reference to be an insult, but tinkertoys have been around for over 100 years and still going strong :)	Jan 13 12:11
XRevan86	Windows as a desktop OS remains a Tinkertoy-style platform, for people who don't want to run serious CLI applications but play games.	Jan 13 12:12
msb_	Tinkertoys and Erector Set are both wonderful educational systems that enable kids to build all sorts of things that they can imagine. Both are still available.	Jan 13 12:32
msb_	Combine them with a Raspberry-Pi or some other cheap IoT SBC and wowie!	Jan 13 12:33
msb_	If you hear a clap of thunder and run up to your kid's room and they're not there, they've probably built a warp drive. But it's likely they'll be back.	Jan 13 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Blackphone2 review (2)	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1dDdQIyMAi (www.version2.dk) "Not	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	Private By Design"	Jan 13 12:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "In just a year after the open-source Dronecode	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	effort launched, its membership has taken off"	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tjra8uU5P0 (www.eweek.com)	Jan 13 12:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Linux Foundation Moves Dronecode Project Forward		Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Ansible 2.0: a 'playbook' for agentless	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	automation https://t.co/VHoOAoxJB4	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Jan 13 12:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| Red Hat Ansible 2.0: a 'playbook' for agentless automation - Open Source Insider		Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	Upgrades More Robust https://t.co/eGg0CF6gNg	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the Upgrades More Robust \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OLnDoifBAp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerxy	Jan 13 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Configuring Linux for music recording and	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	production https://t.co/if7B37hhJP	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Configuring Linux for music recording and production \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:44
msb_	There's a wonderful movie about kids who build a spaceship -- from information they get in dreams! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089114/combined	Jan 13 12:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Gnome 15.12 released	Jan 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QZGGl5qmpY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 14:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Gnome 15.12 released \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source communities need mentors	Jan 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8iVyh9AvVr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 14:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source communities need mentors \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Picademy USA Accepting Applications	Jan 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/afcfurLC4K (fossforce.com)	Jan 13 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oes86	Jan 13 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Raspberry Picademy USA Accepting Applications \| FOSS Force		Jan 13 14:06
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msb_	cubexyz: hello?	Jan 13 14:13
msb_	There's a good new tv series called shadowhunters just started. ep 1 and 2 are both out. A young woman is a hereditary demon hunter.	Jan 13 14:14
msb_	Hey, maybe she'll kill systemd! Cut off its head -- that works for almost anything! -- BTVS	Jan 13 14:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than 30...'		Jan 13 14:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#LinuxLite 2.8 Beta Arrives with Btrfs Support and...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Snapcraft 1.0 Ubuntu Snappy Creator Tool Officially Released,...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Samba 4.3.4 Has Been Released for GNU/Linux and...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Receive a Big QtMir...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cutegram 2.7.1 Out Now, Work Starts for Cutegram...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cordova Ubuntu 4.3.2 Brings the Apache Cordova Project...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME Calendar Just Landed in Ubuntu 16.04 Daily...'		Jan 13 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for...'		Jan 13 14:54
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the Upgrades...'		Jan 13 14:54
msb_	Wow, the Shadowhunters have a major computer center!	Jan 13 15:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687269651525537792	Jan 13 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz ugh, my error, should be NSC, not NSA		Jan 13 16:32
schestowitz	ouch, big difference	Jan 13 16:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/687303411050672128	Jan 13 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz IDG is up for sale. Goldman Sachs is looking for options for them.		Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	good!	Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	msb_: those people who say "zealots"	Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	They have many MS people in their staff as "journalists"	Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	MS staff, proper	Jan 13 16:34
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DinoFancellu/status/687306153752195072	Jan 13 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DinoFancellu: @WeiDeLi14 @schestowitz Ditto. I received nothing. No replies to support tweets. And can't try again, says I did it recently (last friday)		Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DinoFancellu/status/687306153752195072	Jan 13 16:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687239683592597504	Jan 13 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch @fosdem @mariobehling will you come?		Jan 13 16:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/687314155695640576	Jan 13 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: Old news: irrelevant techsite Webwereld + parent company IDG are up for sale https://t.co/oLUcPKGCse https://t.co/ygloZBWgbs #dyingmedia		Jan 13 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fortune.com \| IDG Puts Itself on the Block - Fortune		Jan 13 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| IDC - Techrights		Jan 13 16:46
schestowitz	http://www.presseportal.de/pm/78009/3223963	Jan 13 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presseportal.de \| Patentverein.de kritisiert das geplante EU-Patent-Regelwerk als mittelstandsfeindlich / Verband ruft zu wachsamer Begleitung vor Ratifizierung im Parlament auf \| Pressemitteilung Patentverein.de e.V.		Jan 13 16:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PatentWire/status/687271521232932865	Jan 13 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PatentWire: Patentverein.de kritisiert das geplante EU-Patent-Regelwerk als ... - Presseportal.de (Pressemitteilung) (16 visits) https://t.co/vMAXFSECZo		Jan 13 16:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687315888006119424	Jan 13 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz yes it is. apologies. Was a late nite		Jan 13 16:58
schestowitz	it's annoying when it happens (wrong name of similar). Happened to me too.	Jan 13 16:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution	Jan 13 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2	Jan 13 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/I8T0Wv2aQc (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 17:04
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/687318359671738369	Jan 13 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz I have read their Dutch sites for years, and I wouldn't dare say those were systematically biased - more following the market		Jan 13 17:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687325060202381312	Jan 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz well ed should have caught it but original error was mine. rule is don't write tired.		Jan 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T Will Deploy Canonical's Ubuntu Linux for	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud and Networking https://t.co/0xZzWpDgoO	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com) https://t.co/Yz9rwHrIM4	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| AT&T Will Deploy Canonical's Ubuntu Linux for Cloud and Networking \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Jan 13 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| AT&T Chooses Ubuntu and Canonical for Its Network and Cloud Operations		Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio https://t.co/wapbpJST0X	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio		Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should you install Linux on a gaming laptop?	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MmGR65SlVe (www.infoworld.com)	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	answers from #reddit	Jan 13 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Should you install Linux on a gaming laptop? \| InfoWorld		Jan 13 17:44
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes...'		Jan 13 17:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel...'		Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution	Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2	Jan 13 17:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2 \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu and AT&T https://t.co/tRoPaDRw3X	Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 17:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu and AT&T \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel	Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio https://t.co/DfriN7GoRU	Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opening your mind to open source	Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pkgKFNi0KH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Opening your mind to open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt open source licensing changed and product	Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	structure updated to strengthen community and	Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	extend adoption https://t.co/qKeSvYfXFR	Jan 13 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt open source licensing changed and product structure updated to strengthen community and extend adoption \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 17:54
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960527	Jan 13 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who are using #gnu #linux and are good at it don't go command-line because there's no other option but because sometimes it's faster		Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	"Sometimes it also avoids unintended side effects."	Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	"Faster, easier, and more capable."	Jan 13 18:21
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msb_	schestowitz: Please watch this great one-minute video. About corporate media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7K7SaEgB7w "msb_: those people who say "zealots", They have many MS people in their staff as "journalists""	Jan 13 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Watching the Hawks: Questioning more than the mainstream media - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/oetj3 ]		Jan 13 18:45
oiaohm	msb_: really you need to look closer. Lot of people on Microsoft staff are technically employed as writers. The difference between a writer and a journalist to be exact is that a journalist is meant to know how to research facts where a writer just words what is in front of them.	Jan 13 18:49
oiaohm	msb_: yes man cons depended on how much of main stream media these days are writers not journalists.	Jan 13 18:50
oiaohm	msb_: in fact some of yes man cons show how simple it is to have writers complete a real looking paper containing complete fiction. http://theyesmen.org/hijinks/newyorktimes	Jan 13 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theyesmen.org \| New York Times special edition \| The Yes Men [ http://ur1.ca/oetk5 ]		Jan 13 18:53
msb_	oiaohm: 1. you say that systemd is necessary for Linux 2. you say that cannabis is harmful 3. you say that police clubbing people on the head is a good method of crowd control 4. Now you're saying that some MS writers for IDG are good guys. And you refuse to tell us your name or who you work for.	Jan 13 18:53
oiaohm	msb_: no you just added bogus.	Jan 13 18:53
oiaohm	I did not say they were good guys at all	Jan 13 18:54
oiaohm	Sorry you are a complete bullshit artist msb_	Jan 13 18:54
msb_	why won't you tell us your name and affiliation?	Jan 13 18:55
oiaohm	msb_: the serous question here is why does places like IDG employ people who are just writers who don't have proper journalist qualifications and training to validate facts.	Jan 13 18:55
oiaohm	msb_: number 1 to a person who likes to quote me out of context I have no reason to give my real name. Like it or not schestowitz has my real name along with others in here.	Jan 13 18:57
oiaohm	msb_: I said systemd was necessary to happen for Linux development not that systemd is self is long term necessary.	Jan 13 18:58
oiaohm	msb_: like cgroup v1 that was necessary to work out what cgroups should do. But long term that complete interface will have to disappear.	Jan 13 18:58
oiaohm	msb_: me alone does not say that cannabis is harmful. Medical data on cannabis says the stuff you can buy on the street today is harmful.	Jan 13 18:59
oiaohm	msb_: crowd control is a brutal process. What should the police do use bullets or water or floam and kill more people. Intentionally targeted kill strikes with a baton will kill a person 1 every 3 strike. Targeted hits with a baton to induce pain kill hospital risk is about 1 in 2000 strikes by well trained by poorly trained about 1 in 500 strikes.	Jan 13 19:03
oiaohm	msb_: those are the shocking numbers. Poorly trained police are a major worry.	Jan 13 19:04
oiaohm	msb_: basically you go off on tangents all the time without knowing the facts. One of the signs that the person you are dealing with is not a journalist is click baiting. So some of the reason IDG employees writers not journalist is click baiting allows them to make more money from advertisement with completely false stories.	Jan 13 19:09
MinceR	same reason journalism is practically dead	Jan 13 19:10
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.infoworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ if you look into Galen Gruman who is the editor of infoworld and the author of that tinker toys write up does not have a single journalism qualification.	Jan 13 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Galen Gruman \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oetnn ]		Jan 13 19:13
oiaohm	This is what is so insane people pay big money on books written and managed by people who are not qualified to write them in the first place.	Jan 13 19:14
oiaohm	Funny part is most peopled don't know the formal titles. "Editor in Chief" is the proper tittle for someone who has journalism qualifications and is an executive editor. http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html Notice something here. That is Eric Knorr,	Jan 13 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| About Us [ http://ur1.ca/oetou ]		Jan 13 19:18
oiaohm	Galen Gruman is not even officially on the infoworld executive. Really slap shot media setup there.	Jan 13 19:19
MinceR	so, what is the "Editor in Chief" supposed to do with hack "articles" full of lies?	Jan 13 19:20
schestowitz	Eric Knohr? (spelling)	Jan 13 19:20
schestowitz	I think he's the editor of 'info' war	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	aka InfoWorld	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	he doesn't like Linux much, eitheer	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	but not in Microsoft's pockets afaict	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	though not critical of them either	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	Galen IIRC is a big Apple fan	Jan 13 19:21
oiaohm	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor-in-chief the job description.	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	[19:18] <oiaohm> Funny part is most peopled don't know the formal titles. "Editor in Chief" is the proper tittle for someone who has journalism qualifications and is an executive editor. http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html Notice something here. That is Eric Knorr,	Jan 13 19:21
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schestowitz	Ah, yes, it's him	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	Snorr	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	Knorr	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	the problem is who they hire	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	they have ex-MS staff	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	current MS staff	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	MS MVPs	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	I mean, come on	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	if you hire as writers these people, might as well hand over the operation to MSFT	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	I wrote a lot about this	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDG	Jan 13 19:22
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schestowitz	NetworkWorld is also quite bad	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	but not as bad as it used to be	Jan 13 19:23
oiaohm	MinceR: so its the "editor and chief" people who is technically responsible for everything. They are meant to post corrections about any incorrectly published articial as well as attempt to prevent that from happening.	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	years ago it has a 'foss' blog which was stuffed with anti-FOSS writers	Jan 13 19:23
oiaohm	MinceR: "editors and chief" are not mean to allow people to use bullshit titles either.	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	IDG sites need to due	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	*die	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	MS boosters will write in their blogs	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	no ads as incentive to hire/bias stuff	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	we don't need corporate media	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	people don't deserve to be promoted to "news" feeds just because some company hired them	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	and this companies received money from MS	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	or is connected directly to MS	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	Like 1105 Media	Jan 13 19:24
oiaohm	Reality with IDG they need a new "Editor in Chief' and possibility a complete new executive	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	Too many propaganda sites out there, inc. MS-connected ones	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	IDG is on sale	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	maybe it'll go down the toilet	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	!google idg up for sale	Jan 13 19:25
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schestowitz	what would Larabel do?	Jan 13 19:25
oiaohm	schestowitz: its already down the toilet and should be treated like a tablod not a reference document.	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	he depends on them for crappy obtrusive ads	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	oiaohm: right	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	I don't like it when people like swapnil dump multware	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	and then themurk	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	and now linuxveda is dea	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	*dead	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	because he works for IDG	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	Mostly "CIO"	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	In Virginia... Arlington IIRC	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	so his own sites where he cannot be censored are dead	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	The same goes for many of their other pro-Linux writers	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	SJVN works for CBS now	Jan 13 19:27
oiaohm	The problem with blaming the writers people forget its the "editor in chief" and staff who approve everything the writers do or they should if they are doing there job.	Jan 13 19:27
schestowitz	and he sounds like a pro-MS tune sometimes	Jan 13 19:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/687343959404888064	Jan 13 19:30
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schestowitz	oiaohm: well, Knorr failed	Jan 13 19:30
schestowitz	and he needs house cleaning, it's well overdue	Jan 13 19:30
schestowitz	surely he saw my criticism of him many times before	Jan 13 19:30
schestowitz	and of his writers who have obvious conflicts of interest	Jan 13 19:31
schestowitz	specifically, double-agents with MS and IDG	Jan 13 19:31
schestowitz	Not just MVPs	Jan 13 19:31
schestowitz	they'e self-discrediting	Jan 13 19:31
MinceR	oiaohm: so in short this "Editor in Chief" is not doing his job	Jan 13 19:32
MinceR	despite the title and alleged training	Jan 13 19:32
oiaohm	I really think some of these bad "editors in chief" use spidermans "John Jonah Jameson" as a reference on how to do job.	Jan 13 19:32
MinceR	lol	Jan 13 19:32
oiaohm	Really J. Jonah Jameson the other way of name is a great example of everything a editor in chief should never do.	Jan 13 19:33
oiaohm	http://www.infoworld.com/author/Eric-Knorr/ seriously for person who has got high journalism award over the years the stuff he lets infoworld put out is a complete disgrace.	Jan 13 19:40
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oiaohm	MinceR: its something when you know that the person does not know what they should be doing but someone like Eric Knorr serous-ally does know so you must presume its for the all mighty dollar.	Jan 13 19:41
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MinceR	i guess it went to hell when someone like rupert murdoch realized that some people don't care for journalism and will pay for someone to lie to them	Jan 13 19:50
oiaohm	MinceR: The sad reality is it cheep to pay someone to write lies than pay someone todo proper journalism. Why proper journalism requires proper fact checking. Yes man proved over and over that people don't do proper fact checking.	Jan 13 19:52
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MinceR	the former pays well because people don't care about facts	Jan 13 19:54
oiaohm	MinceR: rupert mudoch writing papers here in Australia to save on cost had articals ghost written in may papers to fill contents what is completely not journalism before he left Australia and become a USA cit.	Jan 13 19:54
MinceR	if they did, they wouldn't pay for the latter and thus papers would have to do fact checking or fail	Jan 13 19:54
oiaohm	MinceR: note "editors in chief" are not meant to allow ghost written articals either.	Jan 13 19:54
oiaohm	MinceR: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/aug/02/scientists-ghostwritten-articles-fraud some of this stuff that you find IDG and others doing is in fact criminal offenses.	Jan 13 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Scientists credited on ghostwritten articles 'should be charged with fraud' \| Science \| The Guardian		Jan 13 19:58
oiaohm	Really we need some "editors in chief" charged with fraud charges for some of the actions and maybe then they will learn todo their jobs.	Jan 13 19:59
MinceR	will anyone prosecute them for it?	Jan 13 20:00
oiaohm	That is the problem. No "editor in chief" has been prosecuted in 50+ years.	Jan 13 20:01
MinceR	just like the way antitrust regulations are unenforced	Jan 13 20:01
oiaohm	Yep	Jan 13 20:02
oiaohm	Please note anti-trust offenses also apply to some of these "editor in chief" actions.	Jan 13 20:02
oiaohm	So of course you don't see these suspect "editor in chiefs" calling for anti-trust enforcement.	Jan 13 20:03
oiaohm	And of course political parties don't want "editors in chief" doing their job as this would make it so many times harder to push political lies out their.	Jan 13 20:04
oiaohm	MinceR: basically its really simple to see where the problem is. The problem is how in heck to fix it.	Jan 13 20:04
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oiaohm	MinceR: for publications who don't have an assigned "editor in chief" the buck technically stops with the owners and executive. So alway someone is legally responsible for written crap not just the writer. Lot of people don't know that the print shop that produces false documents has a legal responsibility.	Jan 13 20:19
schestowitz	why just blame editor in chief?	Jan 13 20:34
schestowitz	Also, any evidence of ghostwriting here?	Jan 13 20:34
schestowitz	What we have are apple/msft fanbois acting as "journalists"	Jan 13 20:34
schestowitz	that in itself is an editorial assignment issue	Jan 13 20:35
oiaohm	schestowitz: using invalid titles is classed as ghost writing.	Jan 13 20:35
oiaohm	schestowitz: executive editor should be part of the executive,	Jan 13 20:35
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oiaohm	schestowitz: http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html look here there are 5 people infoworld executive. Not one is Galen-Gruman http://www.infoworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ so the title here saying Executive editor is Fraud.	Jan 13 20:41
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oiaohm	schestowitz: yes Galen-Gruman title be IDC Executive Editor or just Dept Infoworld Editor.	Jan 13 20:43
oiaohm	schestowitz: yep its a repeating mistake http://www.cio.com/about/about.html http://www.cio.com/author/Galen-Gruman/	Jan 13 20:46
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oiaohm	schestowitz: http://www.computerworld.com/about/about.html http://www.computerworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ seams to be a lot of "editor in chief" are down right asleep at wheel.	Jan 13 20:48
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oiaohm	schestowitz: ok http://www.idc.com/about/management.jsp who in heck is Galen Gruman an Executive for. No where can I find where he is one.	Jan 13 20:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/687372341320364032	Jan 13 21:40
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schestowitz	here is MSLinuxFoundation boosting the troll https://twitter.com/linuxfoundation/status/687349397768650752	Jan 13 21:45
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oiaohm	schestowitz: from what I have found that a long while back Galen Gruman was Executive Editor on lots of those different sites. Problem is he is no longer part of the executive those sites. Amazon has it correct http://www.amazon.com/Galen-Gruman/e/B001HCTXE4	Jan 13 22:40
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oiaohm	schestowitz: Really shows poor control over sites.	Jan 13 22:40
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schestowitz	oiaohm: so I was right	Jan 13 23:21
schestowitz	my memory didn't fail me, he's a Mac cultist	Jan 13 23:21
schestowitz	MinceR: see the amazon link above	Jan 13 23:21
schestowitz	does IDG employ so-called Linux 'zealots'?	Jan 13 23:22
schestowitz	I guess Swapnil MIGHT count as one	Jan 13 23:22
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Jan 13 23:24
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msb_	I don't think a writer/journalist's credentials or title matter at all. People with excellent credentials and title can be totally corrupt. What matters is whether he's telling the truth or lying. When Gruman writes that Linux does not have a GUI interface for ordinary people, he is simply _lying_. And while it's possible that he's lying because he's all hot for Macs, it's much more likely that he's being paid money to do it.	Jan 13 23:46
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oiaohm	msb_: writer can write almost anything and remain a writer. Journalist on the other hand required the means to register with the likes of http://www.spj.org/ for support in fact checking.	Jan 14 00:49
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oiaohm	msb_: Journalist without registrations that give the contacts to properly fact check cannot do their job as a Journalist. Those registrations depend on not being corrupt.	Jan 14 00:50
oiaohm	msb_: its why I say don't mix up Journalist and Writers. Writers don't have anywhere near the same restrictions.	Jan 14 00:51
oiaohm	msb_: Gruman is only a Writer. Not a Journalist has no Journalist require registrations.	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	that's all fine and nice on paper	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	journalists have their bises	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	biased	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	they just hide them	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	this one is a pundit	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	or writer or whayever	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	A lot of the writers there are Windows or Mac authors	Jan 14 00:53
schestowitz	and it's clear what they benefit from financially	Jan 14 00:53
msb_	oiaohm: Anyone can lie. You have a dogmatic way of thinking that leads you to wrong conclusions about systemd, cannabis, police violence, and journalists/writers.	Jan 14 00:53
msb_	A journalist/writer's _history_ of telling the truth or lying, is significant. Their credentials and job title are not.	Jan 14 00:55
oiaohm	msb_: true anyone can lie/bias. A writer there is no major possible punishment. Journalist being using false/spreading facts this effects fact checking this has effects on means to operate profensionally. As schestowitz said profesional Journalist hide them.	Jan 14 00:56
oiaohm	msb_: profesional journalist lie by omission methods most commonly.	Jan 14 00:56
oiaohm	msb_: there is a major difference between a writer and journalist.	Jan 14 00:57
schestowitz	oiaohm: just words	Jan 14 00:57
schestowitz	in practice, when people hear journalist they think "paid"	Jan 14 00:57
schestowitz	so some corporate channel with some agenda pays the writer	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	and calls it "journalist"	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	it's about salaried and non-salaried	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	IIRC, DiFi (Feinstein) wanted to offer protections to writers only if they're paid	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	which is probably the opposite of how it should work	Jan 14 00:58
oiaohm	schestowitz: that the thing you don't hear the word Journalist in fact used that much. People have taken on fraud charges using the word Journalist to describe self when they are not.	Jan 14 00:59
oiaohm	Instead you see people who are just writers using the terms like editors and so on.	Jan 14 01:00
oiaohm	schestowitz: here is something shocking only 30 percent of registered journalists are in fact paid.	Jan 14 01:01
oiaohm	msb_: my way of thinking is not dogmatic. Its not based on faith.	Jan 14 01:03
oiaohm	msb_: you cannot even get that right.	Jan 14 01:03
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msb_	oiaohm: Your dogmatic way of thinking causes you to IGNORE REALITY. 1. The _reality_ is that Linux has been working fine without systemd for 25 years and hundreds of millions of installations; any problems have been minor, infrequent, and easily corrected. 2. The _reality_ is that Cannabis has been used and valued by many cultures for thousands of years as an _aid_ to sanity. The US govt has had several major investigations of it and	Jan 14 01:11
msb_	found no significant harm from it. It has been made illegal because it leads people to question authority. 3. The _reality_ is that blunt-force trauma to the head is the _worst_ method of police crowd control except for firing bullets. Firehoses, teargas, batons applied anywhere _but_ the head, neck and spine are much safer. 4. The _reality_ is that any writer/journalist can lie, regardless of their credentials or title. What	Jan 14 01:11
msb_	counts is whether they actually tell the truth or if they lie. oiaohm, these are the _realities_ that your dogmatic thinking, or maybe your hidden evil agenda, cause you to ignore.	Jan 14 01:11
oiaohm	schestowitz: https://www.pressrush.com/outlets/709508/infoworld kinda shocking when you start checking. At infoworld there are only 2 official journalists. Simon Bisson and Eric Knorr	Jan 14 01:13
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oiaohm	msb_: Sorry you are dogmatic not me.	Jan 14 01:13
schestowitz	LOL!	Jan 14 01:15
schestowitz	Bisson?!?!?!!	Jan 14 01:15
schestowitz	Microsoft m***er	Jan 14 01:16
schestowitz	Booster who is also rude	Jan 14 01:16
schestowitz	hardly a journalist in my books	Jan 14 01:16
schestowitz	more like Microsoft marketing	Jan 14 01:16
oiaohm	msb_: "The _reality_ is that Cannabis has been used and valued by many cultures for thousands of years as an _aid_ to sanity. " I have not disputed this once. And the active drug that has those properties CBC not THC. Less than 1 percent THC with high CBC does that.	Jan 14 01:18
oiaohm	msb_: just because something has been used for thousands of years does not mean there is not correct ways to grow it. Its like some root crops that a perfect eatable normally grow them in 25 percent C02 and they produce toxins that kill people.	Jan 14 01:20
oiaohm	msb_: yes how cannabis is propogated is directly linked to how safe it is.	Jan 14 01:20
oiaohm	schestowitz: if you read Bisson work you will find he lies by omission not by in fact writing lies.	Jan 14 01:22
oiaohm	schestowitz: journalists can still be bias that is correct. But they don't use lies to be bias.	Jan 14 01:23
msb_	oiaohm: No. By sanity in this case I am talking about the psychedelic experience -- integrated left/right brain functioning and enhanced memory and body perceptions -- which enables resistance to external programming. This is given by THC, not CBD. You yourself have admitted that you have aberrant mutated (endo-)cannabinoid receptors. This may be a cause of your dogmatic thinking and ignoring of reality. You may be physiologically	Jan 14 01:26
msb_	incapable of integrating your sequential and associative/lyrical minds. In this way, you may be permanently and irretrievably insane.	Jan 14 01:26
oiaohm	msb_: No studies in blind trials give what you decribed to CBD not THC.	Jan 14 01:28
msb_	Your sentence does not parse.	Jan 14 01:28
oiaohm	msb_: all medical studies show without question THC reduces memory.	Jan 14 01:28
oiaohm	msb_: CBD improves memory and reasoning that has been proven in trials.	Jan 14 01:29
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msb_	Pure THC in pill or liquid form without any CBD has been given to people with no harm whatsoever.	Jan 14 01:29
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oiaohm	msb_: Pure THC has been proven todo harm.	Jan 14 01:29
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oiaohm	msb_: CBD is what is put in pills to treat disorders.	Jan 14 01:30
msb_	CBD fights cancer. But THC gives the psychedelic experience which is very beneficial psychologically and socially.	Jan 14 01:31
oiaohm	http://www.cureepilepsy.org/research/cbd-and-epilepsy.asp CBD does a lot more than fight cancer	Jan 14 01:32
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oiaohm	msb_: by the way you have it backwards.	Jan 14 01:33
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php the only documented usage of THC is treating cancer.	Jan 14 01:33
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oiaohm	msb_: THC does not work for anything else effectively.	Jan 14 01:34
oiaohm	msb_: mind you CBD has some anti-cancer properites as well as doing many other good things.	Jan 14 01:35
msb_	People all over the world are using high-CBD strains of cannabis to fight cancer.	Jan 14 01:36
oiaohm	msb_: high CDB is also uses to treat mental disorders effecting memory.	Jan 14 01:36
oiaohm	msb_: basically anything brain malfuncting try high CDB it can help.	Jan 14 01:37
msb_	THC promotes the psychedelic experience -- mind integration -- which apparently is inaccessible to you and as meaningless to you as color is to a blind person.	Jan 14 01:37
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msb_	oiaohm: Why is your spelling and grammar so poor? Are you brain-damaged in some additional way?	Jan 14 01:39
oiaohm	msb_: 1 percent THC with the rest being CDB is enough to trigger psychedelic experience. There is no medical documents to show that using THC is any more useful that other drugs that have less brain damage risks.	Jan 14 01:40
oiaohm	msb_: 1 was deaf for the first 6 years of my life. Then only had part hearing for the next 3 years. So all the time frame when language development happens in brain was screwed up.	Jan 14 01:42
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oiaohm	msb_: things have not worked properly for 25 years. Problems with sysvinit started appear 1993 with drive failure issues not being handled well got worse in 2000 with the appearance of Linux Virtual Server. So its been progressively becoming a problem.	Jan 14 01:45
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msb_	oiaohm: I'm sorry that you are brain-damaged. But the cannabinoid receptors in the brain do much more than react to cannabis. The brain produces endocannabinoids, e.g., anandamide, which activate the cannabinoid receptors. This can be illustrated by putting a small amount -- 1/4 teaspoon -- of cocoa under the tongue and keeping it there for 5 minutes with the head tilted back so saliva doesn't wash it away. Cocoa contains anandamide	Jan 14 01:50
msb_	analogs which temporarily block the enzymes that destroy anandamide. This causes anandamide levels to increase, producing, in about four hours, a psychedelic experience like that caused by THC, which lasts another four hours. I've done this myself (with Nestle's cocoa) several times and it has worked. I discussed it with an anandamide researcher and he agreed. Of course it will likely not work at all on you, oiaohm.	Jan 14 01:50
oiaohm	msb_: but that is the thing stuff like anandamide does not cause cell deaths or cause long term blockages like THC can.	Jan 14 01:52
oiaohm	msb_: that is the problem with THC there are safer chemical todo most of it beneficial things unless you are intentionally attempt to treat cancer.	Jan 14 01:53
oiaohm	msb_: even treating cancer using THC you have to consider the damage to otherwise healthy cells it might do.	Jan 14 01:57
msb_	In _reality_ CBD, not THC, is used against cancer.	Jan 14 01:58
oiaohm	msb_: did you not read this link http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php	Jan 14 02:00
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oiaohm	msb_: spain study 2009 shows THC effectiveness against cancer.	Jan 14 02:01
oiaohm	msb_: but due to the side effects of THC the tablets using THC are normally 1percent THC 99 percent CBD.	Jan 14 02:01
msb_	Maybe THC works against cancer too, but most people are using high-CBD strains of cannabis for cancer.	Jan 14 02:02
msb_	Regardless of anything establishment medicine says.	Jan 14 02:02
oiaohm	Non GM modified cannabis that are high-CBD still contain between 0.5 and 1 percent THC.	Jan 14 02:03
oiaohm	msb_: basically miss understanding has happened over cannabis treatment of cancer.	Jan 14 02:03
oiaohm	THC is the active chemical against the cancer. CBD is the chemical to prevent THC doing other harm.	Jan 14 02:04
msb_	CBD is a soporific, a sedative. This is probably why it suppresses epilepsy. It causes the "stoned" immobile feeling from smoking oxidized, high-CBD cannabis. People who want the psychedelic THC experience try to avoid CBD in their cannabis. THC oxidizes to CBD, so people who want the psychedelic experience choose unoxidized pot. This can be selected by noting the color of the leaves, which should be green, not brown. Chlorophyll	Jan 14 02:09
msb_	serves as an oxidation indicator, because it oxidizes under the same conditions -- air, moisture, heat, and time -- that THC does.	Jan 14 02:09
oiaohm	msb_: again wrong.	Jan 14 02:14
oiaohm	CBD pure has no sedative effect.	Jan 14 02:14
oiaohm	THC depending on what is blocking generates the stoned effect.	Jan 14 02:15
oiaohm	msb_: CBD in fact undoes the sedative effect of THC.	Jan 14 02:18
oiaohm	msb_: remember I am in Australia we have GM cannabis that is pure CBD. Most miss understand come from not having that access. Yes good fun let people who like cannabis smoke the GM stuff it looks absolutely the same. But absolutely no effect other than increase focus and thinking speed.	Jan 14 02:21
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msb_	oiaohm: Your idea of "good fun" is as sick as the rest of your ideas. I have wasted enough time with you. You can go on recommending the ruination of Linux with 36 megabytes of systemd garbage, and the murder of protestors by cops hitting them on the head, and discouraging people from using THC and escaping from the dominator programming of the ruling psychopaths, and touting MS "journalists". Go on and do all of these harmful things	Jan 14 02:29
msb_	You are a grotesque, reality-ignoring, lying propagandist, who loves to argue. I will not waste any more of my time arguing with you.	Jan 14 02:30
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.truthonpot.com/2013/07/31/40-thc-australians-are-growing-the-strongest-pot-in-the-world/	Jan 14 02:30
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oiaohm	msb_: not only do we have the weakest canadbus on earth we have the strongest.	Jan 14 02:30
oiaohm	msb_: the reality here like it or not you have had your facts wrong. 40% THC is not safe.	Jan 14 02:32
oiaohm	msb_: I don't think a Microsoft writer who is not a officially an Journalist deserved to be called on.	Jan 14 02:34
oiaohm	msb_: what wrong with not wanting people to be given false titles.	Jan 14 02:34
cubexyz	I think being a journalist implies some neutrality	Jan 14 02:38
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cubexyz	some Microsoft dude isn't really going to tell you the "real scoop"	Jan 14 02:38
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oiaohm	msb_: by the way if I suggest letting people take small amounts of arsenic to escape from dominator programming of ruling psychopaths( yes small dose arsenic same effects at THC in all ways) Of course that is to most people wrong. Put cannabis in mix and it some how right. Basically lack of analytical thinking.	Jan 14 02:39
oiaohm	cubexyz: common misunderstanding of journalist. Key point of journalist is report true facts. If due to conditions like government/boss restrictions don't report lies leave omissions.	Jan 14 02:41
cubexyz	hardly an ideal situation	Jan 14 02:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: journalist have to operate in a non ideal world.	Jan 14 02:42
MinceR	seems to be mostly a legal issue	Jan 14 02:42
cubexyz	I can say what I want :)	Jan 14 02:42
MinceR	whatever they're called, most people at IDG appear to be habitual liars	Jan 14 02:42
cubexyz	windows 10 fucking sucks :)	Jan 14 02:42
MinceR	who push m$'s agenda	Jan 14 02:42
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oiaohm	MinceR: most people writing for IDG are not journalist but writers. Writers can write from so call personal option and skip over fact checking so basically lie.	Jan 14 02:43
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cubexyz	the old BYTE Magazine was amazing, it was written by techies	Jan 14 02:43
cubexyz	then everything got dumbed down to grade 6 level	Jan 14 02:44
cubexyz	and I'm being generous here by not saying grade 4 :)	Jan 14 02:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: most of the old BYTE Magazine people were officially journalist and techies and it showed.	Jan 14 02:44
oiaohm	You use to have to be a journalist to get press passes.	Jan 14 02:45
oiaohm	These days those restrictions are dropped.	Jan 14 02:45
cubexyz	do they teach any ethics in journalism courses?	Jan 14 02:45
cubexyz	I'm sure they aren't taught to "shill your brains out"	Jan 14 02:46
cubexyz	I blame facebook	Jan 14 02:46
cubexyz	'social engineering'	Jan 14 02:47
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standards yes its part of any true Journalist course. Ok not the exactly common person ethics but fairly close.	Jan 14 02:47
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MinceR	oiaohm: again, that's merely a legal issue	Jan 14 02:47
MinceR	in that some people would be hit harder for lying in press than others, if such rules were enforced at all	Jan 14 02:47
oiaohm	MinceR: not exactly Journalism ethics are enforced by legal and by the bodies supporting Jouralists.	Jan 14 02:48
MinceR	if they're enforced, why are people titled "journalist" lying at IDG and getting away with it?	Jan 14 02:48
MinceR	hungarian tech journalism died long ago	Jan 14 02:49
MinceR	as a result of fighting between publishers, afaict	Jan 14 02:49
MinceR	(yes, IDG was involved too)	Jan 14 02:49
cubexyz	most of the corporate stuff isn't worth reading anyways	Jan 14 02:50
oiaohm	MinceR: if you read carefully most people at IDG are not titled journalist.	Jan 14 02:51
cubexyz	PC World? ugh	Jan 14 02:51
oiaohm	MinceR: and those with the title journalist lie by omission where they did not include the facts.	Jan 14 02:51
oiaohm	MinceR: not where they wrote incorrect facts.	Jan 14 02:51
cubexyz	sure they can spin it	Jan 14 02:51
oiaohm	MinceR: so yes they are playing right on the edge of what Journalism allows.	Jan 14 02:52
oiaohm	Correctly called spin	Jan 14 02:52
cubexyz	emphasize some facts, ignore others	Jan 14 02:52
MinceR	oiaohm: lying by omission is still lying. doing nothing as an alleged "Editor in Chief" while underlings without the title lie is also unethical.	Jan 14 02:52
MinceR	oiaohm: if i read you right, the latter might also be technically illegal.	Jan 14 02:53
oiaohm	MinceR: like reporting from iran or other places if you don't lie by omission it could be death.	Jan 14 02:53
oiaohm	MinceR: journalism allows basically 1 form of tell a lie.	Jan 14 02:54
MinceR	i was hoping redmond, cupertino and raleigh weren't quite like iran yet	Jan 14 02:54
MinceR	oiaohm: what does it allow the "Editor in Chief" to do?	Jan 14 02:54
cubexyz	the chief can decide not to print an article	Jan 14 02:55
cubexyz	or I imagine ask for edits to be made	Jan 14 02:55
oiaohm	MinceR: "Editor in Chief" is meant to have the power to control all content this include enforcing proper titles and rejecting incorrectly written stuff that is not up to Journalism standards. Problem here due to how some of the groups are constructed they don't have the power they should.	Jan 14 02:56
oiaohm	MinceR: also "Editor in Chief" who don't have the power they should by ethic should fall on their own sword.	Jan 14 02:56
oiaohm	MinceR: problem here they don't	Jan 14 02:57
MinceR	"Live by the sword; trip and fall on the sword; die by the sword."	Jan 14 02:57
oiaohm	A writer has the option of going fully personal option and not doing fact checking.	Jan 14 02:58
MinceR	opinion	Jan 14 02:58
oiaohm	Opps thanks.	Jan 14 02:58
MinceR	isn't that required to be marked in a conspicuous manner?	Jan 14 02:58
oiaohm	If person opinion is done by a journalist they have to mark it. A writer only has to mark it if the Editor in Chief has the power to enforce it.	Jan 14 02:59
oiaohm	MinceR: as you can see there is quite a huge gap between what a journalist produces and what someone who is just a writer produces.	Jan 14 03:00
cubexyz	at least blog writers actually write what they think	Jan 14 03:00
MinceR	there's also quite a huge gap between what IDG produces and facts	Jan 14 03:00
cubexyz	there's no corporate agenda	Jan 14 03:01
oiaohm	MinceR: IDG is like 90+% writers	Jan 14 03:01
MinceR	cubexyz: what if the blogger gets gifts from corporate?	Jan 14 03:01
cubexyz	ok, that certainly could be bad	Jan 14 03:01
oiaohm	Writers are not also required as Journalists are to declare conflict of interest like where they have got gifts from corporates.	Jan 14 03:02
oiaohm	So Journalist gets a gift and talks on topic they by code should mention they got it.	Jan 14 03:03
oiaohm	Writer its up to them if they tell you.	Jan 14 03:03
MinceR	again, i wonder if that's enforced	Jan 14 03:04
oiaohm	Heck a Writer does not even have to tell there Editor in Chief.	Jan 14 03:04
MinceR	in which legal systems do these rules apply?	Jan 14 03:05
MinceR	i'm guessing english-style	Jan 14 03:05
oiaohm	Some countries blog writers are registered as Journalists so yes not mention gifts as a Journalist when you enter particular countries you hit criminal charges.	Jan 14 03:05
MinceR	("common law"?)	Jan 14 03:05
oiaohm	MinceR: China was the first to have the law on Journalist on not mentioning gifts.	Jan 14 03:06
oiaohm	MinceR: 2000BC	Jan 14 03:06
MinceR	when did they do that?	Jan 14 03:06
MinceR	ah	Jan 14 03:06
MinceR	i thought it was going to be ancient	Jan 14 03:06
MinceR	most of china has really gone screwed up	Jan 14 03:06
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oiaohm	I am trying to remember the go that when to China back to one of the EU countries.	Jan 14 03:07
oiaohm	MinceR: basically it was imported back.	Jan 14 03:07
DaemonFC	I've been following the Bundy occupation of the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.	Jan 14 03:07
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DaemonFC	MinceR: Apparently he's all proud of himself for "hacking" some government Windows computers at the nature reserve.	Jan 14 03:10
MinceR	lol	Jan 14 03:11
DaemonFC	The "hacking" involved a Linux LiveUSB stick and mounting the NTFS file system to reveal government data about the migratory patterns of birds, or something. I guess.	Jan 14 03:11
DaemonFC	And now the whole world will know! :)	Jan 14 03:11
MinceR	some of our nazis (in jobbik) are islamist sympathizers too, i wonder if they support ISIL too	Jan 14 03:13
oiaohm	DaemonFC: not exactly something to 100 percent laugh about. There was a case of something like that in Australia causing a possible down river flood panic because the computer was transmitting a river datalogger information back to the weather department.	Jan 14 03:13
DaemonFC	MinceR: The conservatives in the US say that the liberals hate Israel and are trying to destroy it. The liberals say the same thing about the conservatives.	Jan 14 03:14
DaemonFC	Small wonder that we give them $80 or $90 billion a year of MY money and haven't decided to carpet bomb them instead.	Jan 14 03:14
oiaohm	DaemonFC: of course computer disconnected the computer was presumed under water.	Jan 14 03:14
DaemonFC	But that's the government for you. :)	Jan 14 03:14
oiaohm	DaemonFC: basically you hope when some breaks into a computer system its nothing important.	Jan 14 03:15
MinceR	basically if it runs winblows, i hope it's not important	Jan 14 03:15
MinceR	can't really trust that garbage with mission critical (let alone life critical) data and processes	Jan 14 03:16
DaemonFC	I'm sure that it wasn't. They're office computers used by government scientists observing the nature reserve.	Jan 14 03:16
oiaohm	MinceR: unfortunately as some weather data logs here showed its not always the case.	Jan 14 03:16
DaemonFC	The US federal government is massive. Parts of it are incompetent. Parts of it are very competent. Parts of it mean well. Parts of it are malicious. It works towards a goal with one agency, and against that goal with another agency.	Jan 14 03:17
oiaohm	DaemonFC: word scientist equals it could be scary depending on what sensors they set up and who they are sending the information to.	Jan 14 03:17
oiaohm	DaemonFC: general patrol office or something like that would not be that worried.	Jan 14 03:18
MinceR	oiaohm: didn't it occur to them that if the only info they have is that they've lost connection to the computer, they should check before raising an alarm?	Jan 14 03:18
DaemonFC	oiaohm: The scariest thing I've read all day is that Dick Cheney spent 8 years planting people in the federal government so that they would keep reporting to him and doing what he told them to long after he left office.	Jan 14 03:18
oiaohm	MinceR: it what you call timing. Same time computer was hacked section in a telephone exchange broke so the contacts could not be contacted.	Jan 14 03:19
oiaohm	MinceR: basically don't underestimate the rule what can go wrong will.	Jan 14 03:20
MinceR	"hacked"	Jan 14 03:20
DaemonFC	MinceR: How the government is handling this case is unbelievable.	Jan 14 03:20
MinceR	oiaohm: don't they have helicopters or something?	Jan 14 03:20
oiaohm	MinceR: no not hacked telephone exchange was vermon.	Jan 14 03:20
DaemonFC	They've allowed the occupiers to shut down an entire town for weeks and there's no end in site.	Jan 14 03:20
DaemonFC	They're even still getting their mail.	Jan 14 03:20
oiaohm	MinceR: the mistake was not checking sat photos before raising alarm.	Jan 14 03:21
oiaohm	MinceR: flood that large was going to show up on sat.	Jan 14 03:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 14 03:21
oiaohm	MinceR: Australia remote telephone exchanges not working you normal have rats followed in by really toxic snakes.	Jan 14 03:22
DaemonFC	You know, I'd think that if everything on an entire continent is trying to kill you, you'd take the hint. :)	Jan 14 03:22
MinceR	:>	Jan 14 03:22
MinceR	DaemonFC: they had the misfortune of being exiled there by the british government, i think :>	Jan 14 03:23
cubexyz	at least the snakes will eat the rats, that's something	Jan 14 03:23
MinceR	:>	Jan 14 03:23
MinceR	possibly the people sent out to fix it too	Jan 14 03:24
oiaohm	cubexyz: problem is the snakes after eating rat normally get stuck than repeatably zapped as people attempt to call the line.	Jan 14 03:24
oiaohm	So very unhappy snake	Jan 14 03:24
MinceR	zap them harder	Jan 14 03:24
MinceR	very dead snake	Jan 14 03:24
MinceR	though snake fried to electrical components might complicate the job a bit	Jan 14 03:25
oiaohm	MinceR: protected species in most cases killing them is 15000 dollars.	Jan 14 03:25
oiaohm	Australians we like making our life harder.	Jan 14 03:25
MinceR	seems like most humans like that	Jan 14 03:26
MinceR	it would explain a lot	Jan 14 03:26
oiaohm	To be truthful it shocked people in perth to find one of the most common walking tracks at any one time you are inside 3 meters of one of the worlds most toxic snakes the complete length and no one gets bitten.	Jan 14 03:27
MinceR	:)	Jan 14 03:27
MinceR	i guess the snake didn't feel threatened	Jan 14 03:27
MinceR	or hungry	Jan 14 03:28
oiaohm	The humans sure did when they found out they had only used that path for 100+ years.	Jan 14 03:28
oiaohm	Yes 100+ years without knowing.	Jan 14 03:28
MinceR	did the snake spend the last 100+ years there?	Jan 14 03:28
oiaohm	Many generations of that snake had been there for 100+ years.	Jan 14 03:29
oiaohm	Many thousands by the bone remains found.	Jan 14 03:29
oiaohm	Fairly much a path made straight though a toxic snake colony.	Jan 14 03:29
MinceR	do they not move around much?	Jan 14 03:29
oiaohm	MinceR: these travel about 2 Km a day.	Jan 14 03:30
oiaohm	MinceR: mostly those snakes don't want to waste poison on something the size of a human they cannot eat.	Jan 14 03:31
oiaohm	about the only way to get bitten by one is by pure determination step on them.	Jan 14 03:31
oiaohm	That type of snake naturally will move out human way.	Jan 14 03:32
oiaohm	MinceR: basically lot of the toxic creatures in Australia are not aggressive to humans. Its more they act in self defense because we can be stupid.	Jan 14 03:33
oiaohm	MinceR: lot of ways dingos are more of a hazard than most of the toxic snakes.	Jan 14 03:35
MinceR	no surprise there	Jan 14 03:38
MinceR	the degradation in dogs shows	Jan 14 03:38
oiaohm	MinceR: the surprise is a kangaroo for idiots is more of a hazard than a toxic snake or dingos.	Jan 14 03:40
oiaohm	Title boxing given to kangaroo is not without good reasons.	Jan 14 03:40
oiaohm	Most of the things in Australia you leave them alone and they leave you alone.	Jan 14 03:41
MinceR	what about dingos and kangaroos?	Jan 14 03:43
oiaohm	Kangaroos if you intentionally get to lose and they cannot see the way out kick the living crap out of you.	Jan 14 03:44
oiaohm	Yes with the powerful back legs they can break you bones no problems.	Jan 14 03:44
oiaohm	lose/close.	Jan 14 03:45
MinceR	but will they leave you alone if you leave them alone?	Jan 14 03:45
oiaohm	Most of the time unless breeding season and 1 decided your front door is its zone and 1 decides you backdoor is the other now you have a problem.	Jan 14 03:46
MinceR	and what about dingos?	Jan 14 03:47
oiaohm	Dingos are scavengers but they have a few extra tricks over dogs. Like being able to dig a 2 foot deep hole in under 2 mins.	Jan 14 03:47
MinceR	sure, but will they leave you alone if you leave them alone?	Jan 14 03:48
MinceR	i'm guessing no	Jan 14 03:48
oiaohm	MinceR: think dingo dug hole leaves does not bother filling in hole.	Jan 14 03:48
oiaohm	It happens to be dark.	Jan 14 03:48
oiaohm	guess how you have a problem.	Jan 14 03:48
MinceR	yeah	Jan 14 03:49
oiaohm	Now of course problems worse if dingo happens to be sleeping at bottom of hole when you step in.	Jan 14 03:50
MinceR	lol	Jan 14 03:51
oiaohm	Basically everyone hears about the toxic creatures and think those are the ones that you have to watch out for.	Jan 14 03:51
oiaohm	Reality its the non toxic ones that are more likely to get you.	Jan 14 03:52
MinceR	venomous, actually :>	Jan 14 03:52
oiaohm	MinceR: there are 1 or 2 snakes in Australia that have really bad personalities but they are in very limited ranges. Those hiss at you if you are in their path if you don't move strike.	Jan 14 03:58
oiaohm	MinceR: of course most people visiting don't go into the parks where those pains in ass are.	Jan 14 03:59
oiaohm	MinceR: I know this is kinda of scary but a lot of vemomous Australian snakes are kept as pets. http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animalprofile.asp?id=113	Jan 14 04:03
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oiaohm	MinceR: sorry wrong link http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animalprofile.asp?pid=41&id=112 Yes strongest venom snake in Australia is keepable as a pet.	Jan 14 04:07
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linuxmodder	thanks for the link to my post on Fedora in most recent post	Jan 14 04:43
cubexyz	one thing I find funny is that not only are there advocates of conspicious consumption (Apple) but there are even people saying we will never run out of oil, so consume away	Jan 14 05:11
cubexyz	it takes millions of years for the oil to form, and the world uses 86 million barrels of crude oil per _day_	Jan 14 05:14
cubexyz	"oh if we run out of oil we'll just do more fracking"	Jan 14 05:15
cubexyz	utter economic mumbo-jumbo	Jan 14 05:17
cubexyz	we have burned through 50% of the world's oil in about a hundred years	Jan 14 05:18
cubexyz	I really wonder if people ever actually think about it	Jan 14 05:18
cubexyz	the survival of civilization is a mere 'externality'?	Jan 14 05:22
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cubexyz	well, at least there's no soylent green yet	Jan 14 05:31
cubexyz	year 2022 isn't that far away :)	Jan 14 05:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Patent Reform That Would Help The Little Guy \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oex61 ]		Jan 14 13:00
schestowitz	"best cpu at the moment I tthink"	Jan 14 13:00
schestowitz	For mobile?	Jan 14 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to All User	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	Content https://t.co/nkHJvtqhKz	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) #remixos #privacy	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	warnings... (no source code either?)	Jan 14 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to All User Content		Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex6v	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RemixOS – Android-based OS For Desktop:	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	Extended Review, Video Demonstration and	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	Installation Instruction	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uN1D4dwA94 (tlhp.cf)	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex6w	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Remix OS's desktop-friendly flavor of Android	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	hits PCs with mouse support and windows	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nLCNsQ3VJT (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex6x	Jan 14 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Remix OS's desktop-friendly flavor of Android hits PCs with mouse support and windows \| PCWorld		Jan 14 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Auto architect Brenner sees a 'virtuous	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	cycle' in common car software	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y3Fyjwpp77 (www.autonews.com)	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex7o	Jan 14 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.autonews.com \| Android Auto architect Brenner sees a 'virtuous cycle' in common car software		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AndroidN UK release date, name and feature	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	rumours: 18 May https://t.co/AuVKQHX1xO	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.pcadvisor.co.uk) https://t.co/aRB7Htic8u	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.express.co.uk)	Jan 14 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| Android N UK release date, name and feature rumours - New Product - PC Advisor		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex7p	Jan 14 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk \| Google just confirmed when you'll get the first glimpse of Android N \| Tech \| Life & Style \| Daily Express		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: 14 new KILLER features	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ncl7xJXZIF (www.alphr.com)	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex7r	Jan 14 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com \| Android Marshmallow: 14 new KILLER features \| Alphr		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Put Android On Your Desktop with Remix	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	OS https://t.co/dBTnldamqI (lifehacker.com)	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8o	Jan 14 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| How to Put Android On Your Desktop with Remix OS		Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 22 Years of #LinuxJournal on One DVD - Now	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	Available	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LUSQwxumHt (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	going digital. "well over 4,100 articles!"	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8p	Jan 14 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| 22 Years of Linux Journal on One DVD - Now Available \| Linux Journal		Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android launcher update adds auto-rotate,	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	forces icon size consistency	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/H1M4a9ERpU (arstechnica.com)	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8q	Jan 14 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Android launcher update adds auto-rotate, forces icon size consistency \| Ars Technica		Jan 14 13:19
schestowitz	http://betanews.com/2016/01/14/microsoft-rebrands-revolution-r-open-will-keep-it-free-and-open-source/	Jan 14 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| Microsoft rebrands Revolution R Open, will keep it free and open-source		Jan 14 13:19
schestowitz	BS	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Living with the Pixel C: The best and worst of	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	Android in one device https://t.co/tiyIVSsy36	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.extremetech.com)	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex92	Jan 14 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com \| Living with the Pixel C: The best and worst of Android in one device \| ExtremeTech		Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8v	Jan 14 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 13:21
msb_	schestowitz: Great article on IDG, etc! Who would have thought that a site called LinuxInsider is actually anti-Linux? There is just no limit to corporate lying!	Jan 14 13:30
cubexyz	how are they anti-linux?	Jan 14 13:32
schestowitz	> "Doctors and nurses use up to half of their time recording and	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> reporting information"	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> http://www.thelocal.dk/20160112/denmark-is-no-longer-the-country-i-loved-when-i-was-a-young-man	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelocal.dk \| 'Denmark is no longer the country I loved' - The Local		Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> That article is a bit of a rant but the part about recording instead of	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> working is shared by many other jobs not just the medical field. It is	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> probably attributable to the proliferation of Peoplesoft and SAP. Also,	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> many subcomponents of the work environments described there have been	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> privatized, thus increasing up to an order of magnitude in cost.	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> Organizations no longer own their own buildings but must rent the same	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> facilities from a new private entity which is "required" to squeeze	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> massive "profits" from the activity.	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	Even Microsoft, from my understanding, is starting to rent space.	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	cubexyz: not all the writers	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	some in particular	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	Jack is usually OK	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	and he actually uses Linux	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	the site has a long history...	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	with Enderle as writer	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	and editor who never tried Linux	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	how can an editor of "Linux Insider" be a person who doesn't know Linux?	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	That was published some time around 2008	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	it deserved much attention at the time	Jan 14 13:34
cubexyz	yes that does sound ridiculous	Jan 14 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	Warned Not to Use Unstable Repo	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UA1sYxBoh4 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexaf	Jan 14 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People Warned Not to Use Unstable Repo		Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Operating System 1.0 Provides New Linux	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop Experience https://t.co/oZXV6YFZWx	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.eweek.com)	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexag	Jan 14 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Solus Operating System 1.0 Provides New Linux Desktop Experience		Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8-Way ARM Board Linux Benchmark Comparison From	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	The PiZero & ODROID To Tegra	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tZy2ay1X4G (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexah	Jan 14 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| 8-Way ARM Board Linux Benchmark Comparison From The Pi Zero & ODROID To Tegra - Phoronix		Jan 14 13:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687628990018883584	Jan 14 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Yup, but a bitch of an EULA...		Jan 14 13:37
schestowitz	yes, people found out...	Jan 14 13:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687629045480095744	Jan 14 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Lords discusses identity cards - News from Parliament - UK Parliament @schestowitz https://t.co/PNExPqcopB		Jan 14 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.parliament.uk \| Lords discusses identity cards - News from Parliament - UK Parliament		Jan 14 13:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687629270873698304	Jan 14 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Those Chinese fellows made a proprietary spaghetti on the (relative) free AOSP		Jan 14 13:39
schestowitz	Noodle code...	Jan 14 13:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687630313242099712	Jan 14 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yes @schestowitz One thing you can guarantee about UK Govt. If they can't screw it up now they'll do it to you at some time in the future.		Jan 14 13:40
oiaohm	schestowitz: cubexyz: there have been some well run papers where the "editor in chief" did not know the topic. Having sub staff doing proper fact checking and then editor in chief allocating stuff to interest non Linux users could have worked in this case.	Jan 14 13:42
oiaohm	Problem here unless it done properly it will not work.	Jan 14 13:43
oiaohm	schestowitz: cubexyz basically the ones that work have a "deputy editor in cheif" that know the field with a "editor in cheif" who does not who job is to make it layout good to those are not in the field.	Jan 14 13:46
oiaohm	Of course Linux Insider does not have that.	Jan 14 13:47
cubexyz	I don't really like any of the linux magazines	Jan 14 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing	Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	with Full Video in Compiz	Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oxeXlWHkft (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexct	Jan 14 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing with Full Video in Compiz		Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LZ4 #Compression Support Is Unlikely For Btrfs	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qYQjqbKA6w (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcu	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	with a New Linux Kernel, Security Fixes	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/njN2awHh2F (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcv	Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| LZ4 Compression Support Is Unlikely For Btrfs - Phoronix		Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships with a New Linux Kernel, Security Fixes		Jan 14 13:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687631092216631296	Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Institute of Directors warns against ‘Stasi-style’ surveillance of employees @schestowitz https://t.co/risNkt248B		Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.yorkshirepost.co.uk \| Institute of Directors warns against ‘Stasi-style’ surveillance of employees - Yorkshire Post		Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hypercharge looks like an amazing UE4 shooter	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	that will support Linux https://t.co/A9qHY4wjgp	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcy	Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Hypercharge looks like an amazing UE4 shooter that will support Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 13:52
oiaohm	cubexyz: I find the "Linux Magazine" ok. Does help that it one of the rare ones with properly qualified staff.	Jan 14 13:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687631567016095744	Jan 14 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Cisco kills hardcoded password bug in Wi-Fi access points (they claim) @schestowitz https://t.co/8w0dZI790K		Jan 14 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.net-security.org \| Cisco kills hardcoded password bug in Wi-Fi access points		Jan 14 13:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687634006339366912	Jan 14 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yeh.. @schestowitz <looks around> Can't see any Cisco hardware here... Did a few Cisco courses. Thought... no, don't want that.		Jan 14 13:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: if you go to most news agants this is not a Linux then and do the process of sorting mags by what ones have proper teams of qualified staff against those that don't less than 10 percent of the mag pass. Sadly porn mags are more likely to have properly qualified staff than anything else.	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PulseAudio added to Slackware 14.2 beta 1	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F75tNVV51b (www.slackware.com)	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	(Current (pre-release) ChangeLog for x86_64)	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xL7vGZeVNm (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackware.com \| The Slackware Linux Project: Slackware ChangeLogs		Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexdp	Jan 14 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Slackware 14.2 Beta Released, Now Uses PulseAudio - Phoronix		Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat	Jan 14 13:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 13:57
schestowitz	[13:52] <oiaohm> cubexyz: I find the "Linux Magazine" ok. Does help that it one of the rare ones with properly qualified staff.	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	LM is OK	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	sometimes it does some non-Linux FOSS	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	but that's my only complaint (if ever) about their articles...	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	Some sites are very good	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	The H was good	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	but it's dead now, for years...	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	at least we managed to lobby to keep it online	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	Heise took it down	Jan 14 13:58
cubexyz	I noticed they sell individual articles for $3 each	Jan 14 13:59
cubexyz	do they use DRM on the emagazine?	Jan 14 14:00
cubexyz	just curious	Jan 14 14:00
cubexyz	probably all emags have DRM I guess	Jan 14 14:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: Linux Magazine provides 1 instructions to strip DRM off emags two there own is just PDF files.	Jan 14 14:03
oiaohm	I forgot there is one other Linux mag that has a reasonable staff. Linux Format the UK publication.	Jan 14 14:05
oiaohm	Fairly much all the other pure Linux mags staff are made up of a majority of writers not that qualified and it shows.	Jan 14 14:05
oiaohm	Even in the windows mags there are not many with qualified enough staff to write anything useful.	Jan 14 14:06
cubexyz	right, that's why I like the old ones better	Jan 14 14:06
cubexyz	but I tend in that direction anyway	Jan 14 14:06
oiaohm	I have seen a lot of good one off mags.	Jan 14 14:07
oiaohm	Again normally those good ones are writen by one of the authors in Linux Magazine or Linux Format.	Jan 14 14:07
oiaohm	when it comes to Linux.	Jan 14 14:07
oiaohm	The number of people truly qualified and have writing skill is extreamly limited.	Jan 14 14:08
cubexyz	is there a convention for UTF-8 text files?	Jan 14 14:34
*schestowitz loves utf-8		Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3021924/application-development/hooray-microsofts-r-will-remain-free-and-open.html	Jan 14 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Hooray! Microsoft's R will remain free and open \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oexkt ]		Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> Subtitle, M$ cannot circumvent R's license. The push seems to be to	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> force all M$ R users to upload their data to M$ servers (cloud). Which	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> NSA programme is applicable there? This is not about statistics it is	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> about gathering intel on what research is going on.	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	Yes, more control over more data, meaning lockin.	Jan 14 14:34
cubexyz	I usually use *.txt for text files but I should really differentiate ascii text from utf-8 text	Jan 14 14:34
MinceR	R is now "Microsoft's"?	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	sort of..	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	R isn't owned	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	but some companies lead the way in it	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	like with apache, systemd...	Jan 14 14:35
cubexyz	who owns apache?	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	ASF	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	now headed by MS guy	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	MS employee	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	Ross	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	Unless this has changed	Jan 14 14:37
cubexyz	Apache Software Foundation is headed by a M$ person?	Jan 14 14:38
schestowitz	!google ross techrights apache	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Microsoft Coup D'état: After Paying the Apache Software ... - Techrights \| http://techrights.org/2014/11/05/apache-software-foundation-microsoft/	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - ApacheRoss SPS (@ApacheRoss) \| Twitter \| https://twitter.com/apacheross	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Breaking Microsoft's Chains by Moving to LibreOffice \| FOSS Force \| http://fossforce.com/2014/03/breaking-microsoft-chains-moving-libreoffice/	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - It Ain't Easy Making Money in Open Source: Thoughts on the ... \| https://www.enterpriseirregulars.com/80464/aint-easy-making-money-open-source-thoughts-hortonworks-s-1/	Jan 14 14:39
schestowitz	see [1]	Jan 14 14:39
schestowitz	> I'm already seeing people confused about "Microsoft R Open". However, I	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> have two comments.	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> First is that R is part of the GNU Project and not likely to succumb	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> lightly:	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> "R is an official part of the Free Software	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> Foundation’s GNU project, and the R Foundation has	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> similar goals to other open source software	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> foundations like the Apache Foundation or the GNOME	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> Foundation."	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> https://www.r-project.org/foundation/	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.r-project.org \| R: The R Foundation		Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> Even R-Studio is dedicated to being open source, as shown in the mission	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> statement:	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> "RStudio has a mission to provide the most widely used	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> open source and enterprise-ready professional software	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> for the R statistical computing environment. These	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> tools further the cause of equipping everyone,	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> regardless of means, to participate in a global economy	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> that increasingly rewards data literacy."	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> https://www.rstudio.com/about/	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rstudio.com \| About \| RStudio		Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> Second, and perhaps more importantly, this push looks like a grab for	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> the data. It looks like M$ wants to spy on what people are researching	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> by getting chumps to upload (and pay) to M$ servers.	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	yes, Microsoft is trying to become another Google. See what MS does to Android... and how it pushes its "cloud" BS everywhere.	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	In my view, in order to stop MS we need to keep showing its relationship with the NSA, inc. back doors. Don't let the Scroogled PR succeed (i.e. painting only Google as a privacy threat).	Jan 14 14:44
MinceR	https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12513861_938699436207923_520216492443926954_o.jpg	Jan 14 14:44
cubexyz	typical microsoft strategy... pot kettle black	Jan 14 14:44
cubexyz	ok I switched the txt to html with charset=UTF-8	Jan 14 14:50
cubexyz	then I put all the UTF-8 stuff surrounded by </pre>	Jan 14 14:50
schestowitz	^Hello ^Hworld	Jan 14 14:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ'		Jan 14 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OUYA is blocking a Linux version of That	Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	Dragon, Cancer being on Steam	Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/64eSkkiiZG (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 14:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| OUYA is blocking a Linux version of That Dragon, Cancer being on Steam \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CES 2016: Much ado about bots and drones	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qnoWvoZSUC (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	"frenzied fiends run Linux."	Jan 14 14:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| CES 2016: Much ado about bots and drones · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	Windows https://t.co/j8F7E9JvN3 (betanews.com)	Jan 14 14:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft Windows		Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9xbtGnWHnv (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 14:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)		Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.4	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	LTS https://t.co/RqjZH7TP6h	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS		Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	fanlessly https://t.co/8UbhMAq9jA	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 14 15:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel...'		Jan 14 15:00
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft Windows...'		Jan 14 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 14 15:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687651640065847296 https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687651695598432258	Jan 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Patents only make climate change worst, as oil companies patents everything around green technologies #patent #climatechange		Jan 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz worse		Jan 14 15:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687648189126701056	Jan 14 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @AmChamEU_Trade @TTIPAction @Alliance4TTIP @TABC_Council @ert_eu Free trade and free market are not compatible with intellectual monopolies.		Jan 14 15:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687616788608212993	Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest technical is a restatement of the same problem.		Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687616939045351425	Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest And the "technical" black hole is a German concept, so it stops at the German border.		Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687642130102226944	Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @abaipl @ipwatchdog Patent system is not compatible with a free market.		Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687642308880252928	Jan 14 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @grimborg @eventbrite Coming to FOSDEM? Will do the IOT devroom the whole saturday...		Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sparkycollier/status/687657708804149248	Jan 14 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparkycollier: Can't believe I am agreeing with this guy. https://t.co/IFu6nMghfT		Jan 14 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ex-NSA chief defends end-to-end #encryption , says ‘backdoors’ will make us less secure https://t.co/Q0bh86pnaL #hayden		Jan 14 15:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/margaretthatch/status/687662750563221504	Jan 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@margaretthatch: @schestowitz @01micko Same complaint in Netherlands (Europe)		Jan 14 15:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687627583232569345	Jan 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Doctors and nurses use up to half of their time recording and reporting information" https://t.co/UL7dtLZ6U1		Jan 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thelocal.dk \| 'Denmark is no longer the country I loved' - The Local		Jan 14 15:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JohnEdwards33/status/687648968805867520	Jan 14 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnEdwards33: Looks like Coe might have to get his running shoes back on.. Lord Coe under intense pressure after doping report https://t.co/MpsGYbipzK		Jan 14 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Lord Coe under intense pressure at IAAF after damning WADA doping report - Telegraph		Jan 14 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@ChronolabsCoop https://t.co/9xbtGnWHnv (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)		Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	Life on February 4, 2016	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/A3TRZ4TvXg (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of Life on February 4, 2016		Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5L1jScZNnb (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates		Jan 14 15:55
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962645	Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google I/O 2016 event dates and location revealed http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021857/android/google-io-event-date-set.html #scale and #fodsem coming as well. http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/01/ill-be-at-scale-and-fosdem-how-about-you.html #android #google #freesw		Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Google I/O 2016 event dates and location revealed \| Network World [ http://ur1.ca/oexzg ]		Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.jospoortvliet.com \| all mine!: I'll be at SCALE and FOSDEM, how about you? [ http://ur1.ca/oexzh ]		Jan 14 16:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962621	Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RemixOS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction https://tlhp.cf/remix-os-review/ #android #linux		Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tlhp.cf \| Remix OS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction – The Linux Homefront Project		Jan 14 16:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962966	Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lots of discussions today about how #microsoft is E.E.E.ing R language. This is another example of the dangers posed by Microsoft. #privacy		Jan 14 16:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962631	Jan 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google implements feature that would benefit the #nsa agenda a lot http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/13/google-maps-for-androids-new-driving-mode-guesses-where-you-want-to-go/ http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/13/google-maps-for-android-gets-predictive-with-driving-mode/ #googlemaps #surveillance		Jan 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com \| Google Maps for Android's new Driving Mode guesses where you want to go \| VentureBeat \| Apps \| by Emil Protalinski [ http://ur1.ca/oexzl ]		Jan 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com \| Google Maps For Android Gets Predictive With Driving Mode \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/oexzm ]		Jan 14 16:09
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schestowitz	http://www.infoq.com/news/2016/01/chakracore http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/01/microsoft-might-be-developing-windows-10-for-arm-based-processors/ http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/microsoft-chakra-javascript-engine-goes-open-source-now-available-via-github-14-01-2016/	Jan 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com \| Microsoft Open Sources Chakra and Wants to Run Node.js on It [ http://ur1.ca/oey1y ]		Jan 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com \| Microsoft Might Be Developing Windows 10 For ARM-Based Processors [ http://ur1.ca/oey1z ]		Jan 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com \| Microsoft Chakra JavaScript Engine Goes Open Source Now Available Via GitHub (video) - Geeky Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/oey20 ]		Jan 14 16:23
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/687669184302551040	Jan 14 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz thus anonymity as import as free speech if not even more		Jan 14 16:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687671256737538050 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687669021349642240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668753912467456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668481026842624	Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Amid #microsoft #openwashing campaign the company's boosters, Patrizio in this case, spread "MS loves Linux" lie https://t.co/l4UYMs376I		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Microsoft open sources Edge JavaScript code, plans Linux port		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft advocacy sites ensure that anyone who ever heard of #chakraLinux will now be confused https://t.co/ecWxr6lMhU #openwashing		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.winbeta.org \| The Microsoft Edge ChakraCore is now available via GitHub repository – WinBeta		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Names like "ChakraCore" imply core, i.e. proprietary with some #openwashing at the core https://t.co/OFR27zNNqv https://t.co/FFSWQARbiE		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tomshardware.com \| Microsoft Releases Its JavaScript Engine As Open Source 'ChakraCore'		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| The Latest Openwashing by Microsoft Gives False Impression of Microsoft’s Proprietary Spyware/Malware Being ‘Open’ and Linux-friendly \| Techrights		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft advocacy site helps the #microsoft "loves" propaganda (Linux, OSS etc.) https://t.co/B1u6ImZNKG see https://t.co/FFSWQARbiE		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.neowin.net \| Microsoft open-sources key components of the Chakra JavaScript engine		Jan 14 16:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668274134388737 https://twitter.com/feed_berita/status/687666882845913089 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687665657186529280 https://twitter.com/MartinXRugby/status/687636330327703552 https://twitter.com/KennySkyNews/status/687637652821176321	Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft wants to find volunteers to build malware https://t.co/0kN4gdlitX it came from above? https://t.co/Ft7YxrY7Dm		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Microsoft wants you, yes you, to write bits of Windows 10. For free • The Register		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@feed_berita: 'Corruption embedded within IAAF' -- report: Senior figures at the International Association of Athletics Fede... https://t.co/1hZO5wc0ST		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> da.feedsportal.com \|		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: You know that competitive sports died when the "winners" aren't the people who are hard(est working but the best cheaters e.g. Armstrong		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MartinXRugby: The IAAF council, which includes current president Lord Coe, "could not have been unaware of the extent of doping in athletics” #WADAReport		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KennySkyNews: IAAF President Lord Coe is in the room to hear findings of World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission. https://t.co/dBaG0dTOcJ		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KennySkyNews: IAAF President Lord Coe is in the room to hear findings of World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission. https://t.co/dBaG0dTOcJ		Jan 14 16:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/687641984744448001 https://twitter.com/ringsau/status/687646732117741568	Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrdanwalker: Bizarre that Lord Coe is sitting in a press conference where WADA are releasing details of corruption at the IAAF - which he heads!		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ringsau: WADA IC Report part 2 "Corrupt Conduct" IC demolishing Lord Coe's "just a few bad apples" analogy. Putrid. https://t.co/N3HirMNEsv		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ringsau: WADA IC Report part 2 "Corrupt Conduct" IC demolishing Lord Coe's "just a few bad apples" analogy. Putrid. https://t.co/N3HirMNEsv		Jan 14 16:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/687673232648974337	Jan 14 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz If the NHS doesn't sell them off first, just had first hand experience with this. Sold to a corrupt charity.		Jan 14 16:34
schestowitz	Good point	Jan 14 16:34
oiaohm	schestowitz: most people are not aware that MS SQL Server is based on very old postgresql.	Jan 14 16:37
oiaohm	schestowitz: difference now Microsoft is having to start the projects to attempt to get free labour not just pouch stuff.	Jan 14 16:38
MinceR	i though it was based on ingres, like postgres	Jan 14 16:44
MinceR	(and most other sql servers)	Jan 14 16:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale	Jan 14 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	released as last of the 17 line	Jan 14 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LeUSmCNN7K (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 16:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale released as last of the 17 line • The Register		Jan 14 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Thunderbird 38.5.1 Just Landed in	Jan 14 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu with a Ton of Security Updates	Jan 14 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RGVe2SmUHI. (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 16:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://news.softpedia.com/news/mozilla-thunderbird-38-5-1-just-landed-in-ubuntu-with-a-ton-of-security-updates-498915 )		Jan 14 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GrQKzQey5r (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iBhIakaVNQ (hexus.net)	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZPRXAm4sL9 (www.legitreviews.com)	Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs		Jan 14 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexus.net \| Nvidia GeForce Experience Beta adds new capture, mic features - Software - News - HEXUS.net		Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.legitreviews.com \| GeForce Experience Beta Adds New Streaming Features - Legit Reviews		Jan 14 16:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687677316982550528	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah,	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	we're messing with you https://t.co/nIe2GYjBKs	Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Do you think MS will axe R for Linux ?		Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah, we're messing with you • The Register		Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	European Countries Early 2016	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nyHQWHStcu (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 14 16:56
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schestowitz	probably perturb it (OOXML, Azure, etc.)	Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other European Countries Early 2016 - Tizen Experts		Jan 14 16:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962851	Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly http://linuxgizmos.com/compact-rugged-pc-packs-xeon-heat-keeps-cool-fanlessly/		Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/oey6o ]		Jan 14 17:01
schestowitz	"Fanless! instabuy <3 great, hopefully for german market too"	Jan 14 17:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962277	Jan 14 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Reform That Would Help Little Guy https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/16143033314/qualcomm-says-fighting-little-guy-while-really-blocking-patent-reform-that-would-help-little-guy.shtml #patents		Jan 14 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Patent Reform That Would Help The Little Guy \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oex61 ]		Jan 14 17:02
schestowitz	"yes, imho. I have the oneplus one with Snapdragon 801 - snappy performance"	Jan 14 17:02
schestowitz	"Black Duck Software liked your Tweet "	Jan 14 17:11
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 14 17:11
schestowitz	trying to suck up to me?	Jan 14 17:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960521	Jan 14 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For those who still believe that proprietary software can be secure and can be trusted based on brand/s, see #cisco #juniper and #fortinet		Jan 14 17:13
schestowitz	"Where else but in software would someone trust someone else more, if that person refused to show them what they were doing…"	Jan 14 17:13
schestowitz	Good point	Jan 14 17:13
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schestowitz	lol https://linuxmodder.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/bomb-threats-us-schools/	Jan 14 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com \| //PG-13 DISCLAIMER// Recent Bomb Threats against some of our most vulnerable citizens, our kids. \| Linux-modder's Tech Corner [ http://ur1.ca/oeyam ]		Jan 14 17:22
schestowitz	I thought he was being sarcastic	Jan 14 17:22
schestowitz	linking to Fox 'news', too	Jan 14 17:22
schestowitz	and "think about the children"	Jan 14 17:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "MEPIS 11 will be effectively EOL and with no	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	further development" https://t.co/CbO9iee90t	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(ostatic.com)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Ubuntu's New Feather, MEPIS Extinct, Fedora N-1 Upgrades		Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Bluetooth audio no longer accepts ALSA as the	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	output driver." https://t.co/fWS5csbd34	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(alien.slackbook.org)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org \| Alien Pastures » PulseAudio comes to Slackware-current Beta		Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Big Updates We Want From Android in 2016	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yiKYOyBMLH (gizmodo.com)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| 5 Big Updates We Want From Android in 2016		Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android N: Split screen, merged Chrome OS, RCS	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	adoption and other expected features from	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	Android 7.0 https://t.co/MvoTtTU7ei	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.co.uk)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Android N: Split screen, merged Chrome OS, RCS adoption and other expected features from Android 7.0		Jan 14 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ScottsHumor/status/687692391650881536	Jan 14 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ScottsHumor: .@schestowitz Two years after Kiev fascist coup, Russia plans to form three west-oriented army divisions in 2016 https://t.co/JjzXNY0dMs		Jan 14 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HPC research cluster get Red Hat OpenStack	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	private cloud https://t.co/FwxnwXnNvr	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Jan 14 17:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zimbra Collaboration Suite (Open Source	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	Edition) review https://t.co/pMF7rG4lV1	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Zimbra Collaboration Suite (Open Source Edition) review \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The only small-screened Android phone worth	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	buying is coming to the US	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5tpiCFk5He (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The only small-screened Android phone worth buying is coming to the US \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SSH Hole and Other Security News	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJdIuGN7yO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SSH Hole and Other Security News \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Future Fedora upgrades https://t.co/v3ycbqiWJQ	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Future Fedora upgrades \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/LkQeITw20j	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'gnome desktop: A settings design update https://t.co/vLZCo3iKYc https://t.co/WLb6iAdDwO...'		Jan 14 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2016/01/13/a-settings-design-update/ )		Jan 14 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center to Get a Completely New Design in Future GNOME Releases		Jan 14 17:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) Gets Linux Kernel 4.4...'		Jan 14 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection released for	Jan 14 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux & SteamOS https://t.co/ldLOWXnNoZ	Jan 14 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 17:57
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with...'		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tiny Core piCore 7.0 Raspberry Pi Edition Now...'		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.52 LTS Has Numerous IPv6 Improvements,...'		Jan 14 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection released for Linux & SteamOS \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Google #Chrome Users Will Push Content to #Chromecast...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships with a...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxsado favourited 'Medieval II: Total War Collection released for Linux...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 17:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 17:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687692569980067840	Jan 14 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Revo Analytics is to R what RH is to Linux ? Man... We're screwed.		Jan 14 18:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687697138030129153	Jan 14 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Do you mean Javaflat?		Jan 14 18:09
schestowitz	No, c#	Jan 14 18:10
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oiaohm	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/20/google_swallows_apps_prices_docs/ hmm Microsoft up to old games.	Jan 14 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Google swallows your Docs bill from Microsoft, pitches for user familiarity • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oeyg4 ]		Jan 14 18:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687698452764061696	Jan 14 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Bad joke, I admit.		Jan 14 18:12
schestowitz	Never heard this one before...	Jan 14 18:12
oiaohm	The bundling deals noted in that post.	Jan 14 18:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Thunderbird 38.5.1 Just Landed in Ubuntu with...'		Jan 14 18:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux https://t.co/GrQKzQey5r...'		Jan 14 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs		Jan 14 18:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687699939397386241	Jan 14 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz There is a curious overlap between programmers and musicians...		Jan 14 18:19
schestowitz	or writers	Jan 14 18:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/687700799477149697	Jan 14 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: The whole 'LTS' thing continues to elude Fedora project. Not that I mind - I like my bleeding-edge new shinies! :) https://t.co/UsRigfsC76		Jan 14 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Future #Fedora upgrades https://t.co/IcAmy4E62m #redhat #gnu #linux		Jan 14 18:20
schestowitz	Qt5 and KF5 bled me to death	Jan 14 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Brian Proffitt: How do you Fedora?	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/veFS9G9Iyd (fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 14 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/brian-proffitt-fedora/ )		Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Future Fedora upgrades https://t.co/n1pneHQk4J	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 14 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/future-fedora-upgrades/ )		Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The only small-screened Android phone worth	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	buying is coming to the US	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kLIhJGMjIr (arstechnica.com)	Jan 14 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| The only small-screened Android phone worth buying is coming to the US \| Ars Technica		Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kdenlive 15.12.1 released	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NsqBQVqlAh (kdenlive.org)	Jan 14 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org \| Kdenlive 15.12.1 released \| Kdenlive		Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	MJ Technology https://t.co/cjl1pl0Ldu	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyhx	Jan 14 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology		Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pretty Nasty DHCP Vulnerabilty Closed in All	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	Supported Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/oaX2ZAnKjQ	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com) not just #ubuntu but	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	other distros	Jan 14 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Pretty Nasty DHCP Vulnerabilty Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes		Jan 14 18:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/687701360855232512	Jan 14 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 Total idiocy. Yeah, ban it for average Joe, make everyone vulnerable; except the people they were targeting		Jan 14 18:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/687703023376818177	Jan 14 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Well done @UbuntuTouchOS team ;) https://t.co/6UXe9HZIJ9		Jan 14 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Powerful #Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from #MJTechnology https://t.co/KaOhudPaDk #linux		Jan 14 18:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/687703135989661697	Jan 14 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz @Softpedia Great to see this on the market ;)		Jan 14 18:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/marijnvriens/status/687712632606998528	Jan 14 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marijnvriens: @schestowitz @gnutelephony @fossbytes14 it's only failed if you assume that the stated reasons are the real ones.		Jan 14 19:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687713929498238976	Jan 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Very sinister forces are at work to make sure we don't live TOO long. https://t.co/U7kRAScvcW https://t.co/jWe6KCsqWV		Jan 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Warning: BHT may make you young & crazy. Documentary proof: https://t.co/89l3JqlGr2 This message has not been approved by the FCC or SEC.		Jan 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another #epo #patent to help guard #monopoly on #cancer treatment https://t.co/YBG4jvowaZ see https://t.co/fMb3DGEcTK		Jan 14 19:14
schestowitz	Pensions for baby boomers	Jan 14 19:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "SCaLE 14x, we will give a talk focused on	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	helping speakers provide a more positive	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	experience for their audiences."	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kFjZ1y96hg (opensource.com)	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeynr	Jan 14 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| 10 tips for providing a better conference experience \| Opensource.com		Jan 14 19:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/687724248010518530	Jan 14 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #Microsoft's cash cow is still Windows+Office sales. "about 80 percent of Microsoft profit" https://t.co/IQKEDfN5Lf cc/@schestowitz		Jan 14 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com \| Smartphones Aren't PC's Only Nemesis - Bloomberg Gadfly		Jan 14 19:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687724353232867329	Jan 14 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz So relieved Gen. M. Hayden (ret.) is coming around 2 the Light Side (...?!?), that I re-quote myself, https://t.co/AsJmXpJzoe		Jan 14 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cryptostorm_is: This is the single the best summation of 20 years of internet privacy & security progress we've read in... forever: https://t.co/65NfYSCaL6		Jan 14 19:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687726746070691840	Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @fcassia @schestowitz But what really concerns me is WINDOWS 11.11.11 running on the Grey Goo [tm] (EU Pat. Pend.)		Jan 14 20:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/akionux/status/687728455979409408	Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@akionux: RT @schestowitz #spam and #malware exploits #letsEncrypt https://t.co/eKRb6lJsic … https://t.co/vngU0vV5TH		Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/07/n )		Jan 14 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> status.akionux.net \| Friday, 15-Jan-2016 05:10:14 JST における Akio Nishimura (akionux) のステータス - status.akionux.net		Jan 14 20:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @lollisoft favourited '"SCaLE 14x, we will give a talk focused...'		Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FOSS Events: SCaLE 14x, FOSSASIA 2016, DevConf	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/kzJvzYIoUu	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyx5	Jan 14 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FOSS Events: SCaLE 14x, FOSSASIA 2016, DevConf 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient:	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	Vaishali Thakkar https://t.co/ZEYDTsZUqi	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyx7	Jan 14 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Vaishali Thakkar \| Linux.com		Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Reiser4 & ZFS Get Updated For The Linux 4.4	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel https://t.co/fU2TL2W1o6	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyyf	Jan 14 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Reiser4 & ZFS Get Updated For The Linux 4.4 Kernel - Phoronix		Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS & XFS File-Systems Updated For Linux 4.5	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iI5D4VVMeG (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyyi	Jan 14 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| F2FS & XFS File-Systems Updated For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 11.1.1 https://t.co/PZXbGcXIA6	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/7ixYcKCOMd	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Mesa 11.1.1 available, has patches for GRID Autosport \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mesa 11.1.1 3D Graphics Library Released with GRID Autosport Patches, 50 Bugfixes		Jan 14 20:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6963284	Jan 14 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology http://news.softpedia.com/news/powerful-ubuntu-tablet-is-going-on-sale-from-mj-498924.shtml		Jan 14 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology		Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	"	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	Those are actually some pretty great specs. Shame about that crazy bezel though. :P	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	That being said, I’m always happy to see new #Linux tablets come out, particularly #Ubuntu ones.	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	"	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	just needs a peripheral mini-USB keyboard...	Jan 14 20:31
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schestowitz	> I will as soon as I get home & finish working with Boris making sure heś	Jan 14 21:07
schestowitz	> done with his homewor. I have my writings at my home laptop.	Jan 14 21:07
schestowitz	Some Spaniards are linking to it in social media.	Jan 14 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuCon Summit in California to Cover	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	Convergence, Gaming, IoT, and Everything Else	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FdOFvfjqhM (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| UbuCon Summit in California to Cover Convergence, Gaming, IoT, and Everything Else		Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2016 Linux Plumbers Conference Call for	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	Microconferences https://t.co/7BBHyEK6pK	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	(lwn.net)	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oez5n	Jan 14 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| 2016 Linux Plumbers Conference Call for Microconferences [LWN.net]		Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Auto coming to 40 car models this year	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hdQMXXyt47 (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 14 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Android Auto coming to 40 car models this year \| PCWorld		Jan 14 21:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/6877455645539328024	Jan 14 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 14 22:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/687745564553932802	Jan 14 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: OK, if use coral prog simular to dos & linux more precision, safety...if u have the money, knowledge ;) linux=good2 https://t.co/LmqMNRO1KZ		Jan 14 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #AMD Seattle Support In The #Linux #Kernel Still Getting Squared Away https://t.co/WxvpsaNFhF		Jan 14 22:01
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EnVogueRogue/status/687760944336912384	Jan 14 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Seattle Support In The Linux Kernel Still	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Squared Away https://t.co/pyweglR2tB	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 22:31
schestowitz	who own it?	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| AMD Seattle Support In The Linux Kernel Still Getting Squared Away - Phoronix		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Airtop Is One Of The Coolest Linux-Friendly	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	PCs Ever For Enthusiasts	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/evBHFBcirl (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| The Airtop Is One Of The Coolest Linux-Friendly PCs Ever For Enthusiasts - Phoronix		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Such A Community Project	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bO1BRc9kIn (www.techdirt.com)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com \| Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian Such A Community Project \| Techdirt		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial intelligence software \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FSF/GNU/GPL: GCC, Denemo, Copyleft	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EHaSwENuIv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FSF/GNU/GPL: GCC, Denemo, Copyleft \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/8EHWDLeMPr	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezhq	Jan 14 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manage your Linux Box with htop	Jan 14 22:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/78s8fVESkx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezi0	Jan 14 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manage your Linux Box with htop \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian	Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	Such A Community Project	Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tJpvBDpEvq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezi3	Jan 14 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian Such A Community Project \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:33
*TweetTuxMachines @jsfour favourited 'Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G'		Jan 14 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial	Jan 14 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G	Jan 14 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@brainchatbot (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 23:05
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MinceR	http://40.media.tumblr.com/f590931e75623a5e1f7888a3eca668b9/tumblr_ntw7xvdLx01s0lrzfo1_1280.jpg	Jan 14 23:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687773690294067200	Jan 14 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @bastianbest @glynmoody @techdirt What's next in the list? Patent over mental acts because they can be overcome with technical?		Jan 14 23:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/687776357955317760	Jan 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @zoobab @schestowitz @bastianbest @techdirt well, quite...		Jan 14 23:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/_Canidae/status/687775791879327744	Jan 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Canidae: We really need a new company to create good OSes. https://t.co/6Y2rw0A1xh		Jan 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft is really trying to piss people off and make #vista10 synonymous with #malware https://t.co/jc7ZgiqIzq https://t.co/Ft7YxsfIuU		Jan 14 23:34
schestowitz	How about Linux Mint?	Jan 14 23:34
MinceR	trusting a company to create a good OS -- has he learned nothing?	Jan 14 23:37
MinceR	mint is crap	Jan 14 23:37
oiaohm	MinceR: its not that companies cannot make good OS. Historically OS built to meet USA rainbow books(a security standard) were good quality.	Jan 14 23:42
MinceR	they're merely not motivated to do so	Jan 14 23:43
oiaohm	Like no one buys a car without making sure it has a road worthy certificate.	Jan 14 23:43
MinceR	and even if one attempts to do so, m$ and crApple would kill them before they could succeed	Jan 14 23:43
MinceR	maybe even hatred would join	Jan 14 23:43
oiaohm	Yet people buy OS with making sure it design to one of the core security standards.	Jan 14 23:43
oiaohm	And has conformance tests passing.	Jan 14 23:44
oiaohm	MinceR: Linux kernel is guilty at times having good enough quality control for security reasons.	Jan 14 23:44
oiaohm	So this crappy security stuff is not just restricted to Microsoft.	Jan 14 23:45
oiaohm	Or Apple	Jan 14 23:45
oiaohm	It something over all we need to demand a lot more of.	Jan 14 23:45
MinceR	and we're getting less and less of	Jan 14 23:47
MinceR	as our computers are getting locked down and we're getting locked out of them	Jan 14 23:48
MinceR	and our software and content demands to take over control	Jan 14 23:48
MinceR	https://56.media.tumblr.com/6bcfe655a2a8ed136187906ec1f04ac3/tumblr_o0yimvpOWD1tulhy0o1_1280.jpg	Jan 14 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH	Jan 14 23:51
TweetTuxMachines	Hole https://t.co/er8KBAWsPg (techrights.org)	Jan 14 23:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH Hole https://t.co/er8KBAWsPg'		Jan 14 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH Hole \| Techrights		Jan 14 23:51
oiaohm	MinceR: more people are starting to come aware how they are locked out.	Jan 14 23:54
oiaohm	MinceR: please remember faulty(intentionally so) ACPI tables prevented Linux and BSD from working properly in fact prevented windows without extra drivers from working on them out the box.	Jan 14 23:54
oiaohm	MinceR: and that was 1996	Jan 14 23:55
MinceR	i'm seeing more people accepting being locked out the norm and even demanding it	Jan 14 23:55
oiaohm	phoninx bios has supported checksumed MBR since 1993 with the means to write checksum into flash so preventing booting any OS with a different MBR.	Jan 14 23:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jiji29z/status/687785300932820992	Jan 14 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jiji29z: @schestowitz @addhdgamer I just threw up in my mouth. 😨		Jan 14 23:56
oiaohm	MinceR: basically the lock down features were demanded all the way back in 1993.	Jan 14 23:57
MinceR	"features"	Jan 14 23:57
oiaohm	They are features in a computer lab to prevent people messing up the systems.	Jan 14 23:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/addhdgamer/status/687785502263619584	Jan 14 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@addhdgamer: @jiji29z @schestowitz ikr smh gold diggers		Jan 14 23:58
MinceR	so, "messing up" is the new word for "using"	Jan 14 23:58
MinceR	good to know	Jan 14 23:58
*MinceR goes to "mess up" his web browser		Jan 14 23:58
oiaohm	MinceR: from my point of view we need the security features but once someone opens the case you should be able to over ride it.	Jan 14 23:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Server Hardening	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZkZEovxJbq (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeztw	Jan 14 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| Server Hardening \| Linux Journal		Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Goodwill team up to	Jan 14 23:59
oiaohm	Basically physical security on case bipassed on modern motherboards removing TPM is possible.	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	provide free Linux training in Central Texas	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BnFfjl3I1i (lwn.net)	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezty	Jan 14 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Linux Foundation and Goodwill team up to provide free Linux training in Central Texas [LWN.net]		Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/GbaPikxgnW	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeztz	Jan 14 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software (Opera, PacketFence,	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	CrossOver) https://t.co/TKqyckvhYR	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezu1	Jan 14 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software (Opera, PacketFence, CrossOver) \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 23:59
oiaohm	MinceR: the big problem to me is the items like intel firmware protection where the signing key is written into motherboard chipset by fusable links so not changeable.	Jan 15 00:00
oiaohm	Also that stunt is not new either.	Jan 15 00:01
MinceR	many of those "features" are unnecessary, and could be replaced with much simpler and more effective implementations	Jan 15 00:01
MinceR	like hardware switches or read-only flash storage device ports	Jan 15 00:01
oiaohm	MinceR: you don't know my history.	Jan 15 00:01
MinceR	also, smartcard readers	Jan 15 00:01
oiaohm	In 1994 my code crippled a complete complete UNI because it was self replicatating and firmware embedding. I sent it in as a example code to demo a security flaw to a person with a PHD in Information technology.	Jan 15 00:02
MinceR	why did they let it into the wild?	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	and they did not obey my instructions of running it in a isolated network.	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	The thing restricted it spreed to local LAN.	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	If I had made the thing Internet aware it would have been major problems.	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	MinceR: gigabyte dual bios is designed to allow countering my example code.	Jan 15 00:04
oiaohm	MinceR: so by my history checksum checking firmware and limiting what can replace firmware is required feature. Now of course I know with possibility of key breach its also required for some direct physical method to change the key.	Jan 15 00:06
MinceR	preventing software from writing to firmware would be sufficient	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	Basically intel current implementation is missing a key feature I class as mandatory required.	Jan 15 00:07
MinceR	it would also be more secure than playing with cryptography	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	MinceR: gigabyte 1 firmware is read only and 1 is writeable so you can reset the pest always.	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	But you still want to prevent when updating a damaged or modified firmware without you knowing going in.	Jan 15 00:08
oiaohm	MinceR: to be truthful intel reference implementation is missing 2 features I class as mandorary. 1 means to change the signing key for firmware. 2 dual firmware with 1 firmware read only or firmware update tool(read only) and bios setup so no matter what has happened you can get a valid not infected firmware into the system.	Jan 15 00:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/687790178631573504	Jan 15 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education https://t.co/pps19BokNv #Clinton #GMOs		Jan 15 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linkis.com \| Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation, Clinton Ties, and Control of Education \| Techrights - Linkis.com		Jan 15 00:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/687788175981424641	Jan 15 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz Only the good die young		Jan 15 00:17
schestowitz	Steve Job was not good...	Jan 15 00:17
oiaohm	MinceR: https://firmware.intel.com/sites/default/files/resources/A_Tour_Beyond_BIOS_Implementing_TPM2_Support_in_EDKII.pdf you know the mess about SHA1 being broken recently. This means all TPM 1.2 and before chips are now insecure.	Jan 15 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Graphics: NVIDIA, Mesa 11.1.1, Gallium3D,	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	Wayland... https://t.co/oGk3TbrV1w	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezww	Jan 15 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Graphics: NVIDIA, Mesa 11.1.1, Gallium3D, Wayland... \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Kernel https://t.co/qEqKoFsrRv	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezwx	Jan 15 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/JLUg4DMeZT	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezwy	Jan 15 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 00:19
oiaohm	MinceR: the practical problem with security. When tech gets old it fails. So what ever is your security device of firmware need to be replaceable/updatability. I know this might seam like too much common sense but why could not the firmware image validation be placed in a small microcontroller embedded in the normally removable firmware chip.	Jan 15 00:23
oiaohm	You want to do your own custom firmwares buy replacement chip.	Jan 15 00:24
MinceR	because they don't want to let you do your own custom firmware	Jan 15 00:24
MinceR	they want you to be a guest on your "own" computer	Jan 15 00:24
oiaohm	Problem is if the don't want you replacing firmwares sooner or latter the method they choose to sign/check firmware will have a flaw so people can replace the firmware again.	Jan 15 00:25
oiaohm	Security is a every changing problem.	Jan 15 00:26
oiaohm	Opps ever	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Papo & Yo finally has a Linux version on Steam,	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	two years later https://t.co/IhzN3T2Kig	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezxw	Jan 15 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Papo & Yo finally has a Linux version on Steam, two years later \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7raMUwsWlI (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezxx	Jan 15 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes		Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bijou Linux autopilot takes to the skies	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PjSjdfwuat (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezxy	Jan 15 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Bijou Linux autopilot takes to the skies • The Register		Jan 15 00:27
oiaohm	MinceR: basically I want the best OS security I can have with the technology that we have. Not having means to audit firmware and update security systems around firmware does not sit well we me.	Jan 15 00:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now	Jan 15 00:28
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 15 00:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7K21vMwgpE (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 00:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oezy4	Jan 15 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS		Jan 15 00:28
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 15 00:28
oiaohm	well with me.	Jan 15 00:29
oiaohm	MinceR: its where we are different I don't want min. I want max but in my control.	Jan 15 00:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH Vulnerabilities in All Supported...'		Jan 15 00:30
MinceR	oiaohm: looks like neither of us will have what we want	Jan 15 00:31
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 15 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready	Jan 15 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones	Jan 15 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qoHGARzTHh (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 00:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones		Jan 15 00:32
oiaohm	MinceR: we do have problem with each other because due to my prior experence I don't see no security on firmware as a safe or sane option. What made my thing so much of a hazard is hide in firmware for 48 hours before stopping the system all that time spreeding to other machines in the network.	Jan 15 00:34
oiaohm	MinceR: so only way to remove it was basically fix all the firmware at once by bringing the complete network down and finding every single machine.	Jan 15 00:35
MinceR	i don't consider locking the user out "security"	Jan 15 00:38
MinceR	and i've seen "security" being used the excuse for DRM way too many times	Jan 15 00:39
MinceR	also, i have no illusions about security when the attacker has physical access to the computer	Jan 15 00:39
MinceR	unless the disk is encrypted and one never tries to decrypt it on any computer the attacker had physical access to	Jan 15 00:40
oiaohm	MinceR: you have never faced for against a firmware infecting virus right?	Jan 15 00:46
oiaohm	for/off	Jan 15 00:46
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 00:46
oiaohm	MinceR: basically that is where we are very different.	Jan 15 00:47
oiaohm	Basically I have. So do want barriers that are controlable around the firmware. Hard drive infections are fairly simple to deal with. Remove the harddrive.	Jan 15 00:47
oiaohm	The reality is if you asked me how would I attack the current intel setup with unlimited resources. Simple enough go to motherboard maker with some government force and demard they give me the signing keys so I can custom patch the firmware.	Jan 15 00:49
oiaohm	Now attacking a system where the buyer has had the option to replace all the keys is a lot harder problem.	Jan 15 00:50
oiaohm	MinceR: the more of a mono culture something is the simpler it is to make effective attacks.	Jan 15 00:51
oiaohm	Once attack is detected by someone and reported its a very limited time before it effectiness drops.	Jan 15 00:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wowbagger999/status/687801599356481536	Jan 15 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wowbagger999: Logo-Woche der freidrehenden #DMCA Juristen: Zuerst Metallica vs Coverband, jetzt Bernie Sanders vs #Wikimedia https://t.co/9r7FrESaJ1		Jan 15 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bernie Sanders' Campaign DMCAs #Wikimedia For Hosting His Logos https://t.co/VyfJfApm3L #dmca is an abuser's dream		Jan 15 01:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/687802519062450176	Jan 15 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz Good. He can go to Italy and run for office there. Sorry Italy, didn't mean that.		Jan 15 01:06
schestowitz	Italy is still recovering...	Jan 15 01:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/687804024557551616	Jan 15 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz Jerry Hall? Haven't heard that name in decades. I'd like to see the expression on ol' Mick's face when he reads that news item.		Jan 15 01:11
oiaohm	schestowitz: got some bad new Bernie Sanders take down request is most likely legal.	Jan 15 01:11
oiaohm	schestowitz: wikipedia most likely should have water marked them as copyright protected materials copyed using fair usage.	Jan 15 01:12
oiaohm	schestowitz: same techically applies to when you use company logos without approval on documentation.	Jan 15 01:13
oiaohm	schestowitz: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia This is the problem on wikimedia. Not clearly tagging images that are not for free reuse.	Jan 15 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commons.wikimedia.org \| Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia - Wikimedia Commons		Jan 15 01:17
oiaohm	schestowitz: australia we have fairdealing not fair-usage. Fair Dealing suxs. Because 1 for content like Bernie Sanders asked to be taken down you would have had to send a email/letter asking permission before using it in the first place and wait a fair amount of time for response(90 days). 2 if they send back no if you use it water mark the hell out of it and be sure that you can explain to a court that there was no other way of presenting it	Jan 15 01:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for...'		Jan 15 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WYULCLmVeF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of041	Jan 15 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now Testing Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yO4khq0hT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of042	Jan 15 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for Meizu MX4 and BQ Aquaris Phones \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 01:25
oiaohm	schestowitz: and if you did not get an answer granting permission you still watermark the hell out of it and document that you never got answer.	Jan 15 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cynthia Harvey's New Big Data Series	Jan 15 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5yD1UgHhWi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 01:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cynthia Harvey's New Big Data Series \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Agencies look to public for digital work on	Jan 15 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	open source https://t.co/R5Kpin4dDl	Jan 15 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 01:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Agencies look to public for digital work on open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 01:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 15 01:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Custom Tarballs Now Ready for...'		Jan 15 01:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Arch Linux and Slackware Now...'		Jan 15 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5 Kernel	Jan 15 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eL35yjVCP8 (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 15 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of06i	Jan 15 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| HID Driver Updates Land In The Linux 4.5 Kernel - Phoronix		Jan 15 01:45
schestowitz	[01:11] <oiaohm> schestowitz: got some bad new Bernie Sanders take down request is most likely legal.	Jan 15 01:45
schestowitz	That's not the point	Jan 15 01:46
schestowitz	and that's not what this dispute is about	Jan 15 01:46
schestowitz	Just because it's legal to do something doesn't mean you should do it	Jan 15 01:46
schestowitz	so debating the legality of it isn't the point	Jan 15 01:46
schestowitz	if it was not legal, the scandal might get bigger	Jan 15 01:47
schestowitz	but that's not what the main point of contention is	Jan 15 01:47
oiaohm	schestowitz: legality is kind of part of the point.	Jan 15 01:50
oiaohm	This is a case it take two to tango.	Jan 15 01:51
oiaohm	wikimedia/wikipedia has been way too lax not putting watermarks over stuff used by fair usage.	Jan 15 01:51
oiaohm	This lets people know that to use this content they better have justification.	Jan 15 01:52
oiaohm	Now if those images had been watermarked and Bernie Sanders was asking for taken down then it would have been completely in the wrong.	Jan 15 01:52
oiaohm	Heck just adding a boarder around image with used under fair usage for wikipedia as part of history recording would have protected them as well.	Jan 15 01:54
oiaohm	Fair usage allows you to reuse stuff as long as the reason is valid and its part of another work.	Jan 15 01:55
oiaohm	schestowitz: yes I am annoyed that Bernie Sanders did the take down but to prevent future cases the same wikimedia/wikipedia needs to lift their game.	Jan 15 01:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/687815221780430848	Jan 15 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz wicked. That's all seriously important stuff		Jan 15 02:07
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schestowitz	oiaohm: maybe some lawyers, not Sanders' idea	Jan 15 02:14
schestowitz	not that it excuses him	Jan 15 02:14
schestowitz	but alas, another showing of why DMCA is messed up	Jan 15 02:15
schestowitz	gn	Jan 15 02:15
msb_	Now US govt, in a procedure called SOP303, can shut off phone and Internet service in an area as large as an entire city. in case of "an emergency". Obviously to prevent people from communicating about evil govt operations.	Jan 15 02:42
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oiaohm	msb_: http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Standard_Operating_Procedure_303 its been there for a while.	Jan 15 03:08
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oiaohm	msb_: it was done in George W. Bush first term SOP303 is over 10 years old.	Jan 15 03:10
cubexyz	why in the world would anyone want all the phones knocked out?	Jan 15 03:11
cubexyz	the idea seems stupid	Jan 15 03:11
cubexyz	you wouldn't be able to call for an ambulance, or call the fire department, or the police	Jan 15 03:13
oiaohm	cubexyz: in Australia is restricts calls to be only to 000 being emergency.	Jan 15 03:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: I don't know what USA configuration is.	Jan 15 03:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: with bushfires and other things in Australia that have caused major telelphone system damage forcing a lot of the system on to backup power systems locking calls to be 000 or 211(mobile 000 equal) reduces number of calls and extends operational time of the network.	Jan 15 03:37
oiaohm	cubexyz: Yes shutting down internet services is another power saving move.	Jan 15 03:38
oiaohm	cubexyz: basically if SOP303 matches Australian equal it is ok. Problem here is the questions NCC asks as far as I know are not public. Australia one is negotiation between carriers and police and emergency.	Jan 15 03:39
cubexyz	oiaohm, seems like someone does think like me after all:	Jan 15 04:59
cubexyz	http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/01/14/1833252/can-your-hardware-top-18-years-and-ten-months	Jan 15 04:59
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I still have a working pent 233	Jan 15 05:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: just kept around for laughs.	Jan 15 05:06
oiaohm	cubexyz: and as a by bed table as it a full towercase	Jan 15 05:06
oiaohm	cubexyz: I have seen a working sparc server that is 30 years old.	Jan 15 05:07
cubexyz	sure, my vic-20 was made in 1981 and it still works	Jan 15 05:07
cubexyz	I don't use it very often though	Jan 15 05:07
oiaohm	Ok not quite	Jan 15 05:08
oiaohm	1987 sparc server	Jan 15 05:08
cubexyz	same age as my amiga	Jan 15 05:08
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oiaohm	You have to remember it remains cool even if you stop all it cooling fans	Jan 15 05:08
oiaohm	So it has excessive cooling.	Jan 15 05:09
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is a server that has been in 24/7 usage since 1987	Jan 15 05:09
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cubexyz	oiaohm, running 24/7 may actually help the longevity	Jan 15 05:11
cubexyz	it means it stays at roughly the same temperature all the time	Jan 15 05:12
cubexyz	the most fragile parts seem to be burners and optical drives	Jan 15 05:13
oiaohm	cubexyz: its gone months in the log of the fans not working.	Jan 15 05:14
oiaohm	cubexyz: and other horible life shorting faults.	Jan 15 05:14
cubexyz	like what?	Jan 15 05:14
oiaohm	Shorts due to geckos dieing on critical parts.	Jan 15 05:14
cubexyz	does a computer that old have any temperature sensors?	Jan 15 05:15
oiaohm	Smell getting attention.	Jan 15 05:15
cubexyz	oh	Jan 15 05:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: temperature sensors has been in server hardware for a very long time.	Jan 15 05:16
oiaohm	cubexyz: I think late 1970s they first appeared.	Jan 15 05:16
cubexyz	yeah the PDP-10s had that actually	Jan 15 05:17
cubexyz	maybe even older stuff did too	Jan 15 05:17
cubexyz	I think very old Univacs had water cooling, and they may have had some sort of temperature guage	Jan 15 05:18
cubexyz	didn't old steam locomotives have a temp gauge?	Jan 15 05:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: steam locomotives have a pressure gauge yes pressure and temp do line up, Water level and pressure gauges is all steam trains need.	Jan 15 05:19
cubexyz	I think bimetallic tempature switches have been around a long time	Jan 15 05:21
cubexyz	I'm just thinking about the first computer to have a temperature sensor	Jan 15 05:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: http://www.simopek.de/sites/default/files/08.IBM_.Data%20Center%20Thermal%20Management%20for%20High%20Density%20and%20Efficiency.pdf You might like this one with modern day data center water cooling.	Jan 15 05:24
cubexyz	1998 tyan had temp sensors, but how much further back it goes I'm not sure	Jan 15 05:25
cubexyz	ha, look at those old Univac mag tape drives	Jan 15 05:26
oiaohm	cubexyz: PDP-10 is 1968	Jan 15 05:28
cubexyz	oiaohm, the PDP-10s persisted into the 1980s	Jan 15 05:29
cubexyz	only the very first ones were made in 1968, otherwise I would have never worked on one	Jan 15 05:29
oiaohm	cubexyz: temp sensors was old tech by 1987 its one of the major differences between early personal computers and the mainframes of that time. Yes the mainframe servers had temp sensors.	Jan 15 05:29
cubexyz	oiaohm, yes but when did BIOS start supporting temp sensors?	Jan 15 05:30
cubexyz	how far back does that go?	Jan 15 05:30
oiaohm	Even today cups on Linux keeps the mainframe printer message if printer does not respond of printer on fire.	Jan 15 05:30
oiaohm	cubexyz: I think 286 had temp sensors.	Jan 15 05:31
cubexyz	it's not in the generic 8088 bios, I just checked	Jan 15 05:33
oiaohm	cubexyz: yep 286 is the earliest in standard conforming x86 where you find temp sensors.	Jan 15 05:33
cubexyz	oiaohm, there's nothing in the IBM AT BIOS for temperature	Jan 15 05:34
cubexyz	and I don't remember ever seeing it either	Jan 15 05:35
cubexyz	even in the 386 era I don't think it was common	Jan 15 05:37
cubexyz	Univac magnetic tape drives from 1951 actually were the very first magnetic tape data storage	Jan 15 05:39
cubexyz	Univac I	Jan 15 05:40
cubexyz	286 cpu just didn't get very hot	Jan 15 05:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: 286 on AT motherboards it was a motherboard temp sensor not a CPU one.	Jan 15 05:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: 386 before in cpu temperature sensor and more fancy things.	Jan 15 05:45
cubexyz	oiaohm, wouldn't there still be something in the BIOS for it, or was it completely separate?	Jan 15 05:45
oiaohm	cubexyz: the tempeture sensor was in the real-time clock.	Jan 15 05:46
oiaohm	cubexyz: so not bios.	Jan 15 05:46
oiaohm	Yes the 286 realtime clock was based of chips that were used in mainframes where everything at that stage had tempeture sensors.	Jan 15 05:47
cubexyz	ok, let me check Dallas DS 1287, that seems to be about the right era	Jan 15 05:48
oiaohm	cubexyz: some 80186 computers had same type of real-time clock.	Jan 15 05:48
cubexyz	if there's no mention of temp in the data sheet then that's conclusive	Jan 15 05:49
oiaohm	Hmm I know it was in that section of board.	Jan 15 05:51
cubexyz	24-pin encapsulated package	Jan 15 05:54
cubexyz	ah, unfortunately the PDF is rasterized and no OCR was done	Jan 15 05:55
cubexyz	it's just a real time clock with some RAM	Jan 15 05:58
cubexyz	no temperature sensing abilities	Jan 15 05:58
cubexyz	but if you have an old 286 and it uses the Dallas DS 1287 then you would need to replace it	Jan 15 06:00
cubexyz	and stupidly, some manufacturers soldered the IC onto the motherboard	Jan 15 06:01
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schestowitz	> https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/01/13/chakracore-now-open/	Jan 15 09:45
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schestowitz	> dodges granting patent use unlike the Apache license.	Jan 15 09:45
schestowitz	Yes, I don't want to waste much more time about this...	Jan 15 09:45
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msb_	RT is showing a documentary about _acid attacks_. This is a monstrosity I had never heard of before. In strongly male-supremacist nations, men throw acid -- sulphuric, nitric, hydrochloric -- into the faces of women who refuse their sexual advances, or even wives who don't bring enough dowry to the wedding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing	Jan 15 15:54
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abeNd-org	yep, but feminism is strong here in the states, where every male is 110% evil	Jan 15 16:12
abeNd-org	.....yet the movement does nothing for places where acid throwing or the such happens	Jan 15 16:12
abeNd-org	the movement can't get their lattes in countries like that	Jan 15 16:12
oiaohm	msb_: History there has been many strongly male-supremacist nations include many time frames in China and England. Acid attacks does not just align to strongly male-supremacist nations, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/copycat-acid-attack/	Jan 15 16:18
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oiaohm	msb_: heck acid attacks are not only performed by males as that example from the USA shows.	Jan 15 16:19
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/02/history_of_acid_violence_when_did_people_start_throwing_vitriol.html This covers the history of acid attacks.	Jan 15 16:20
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msb_	The vast majority of such attacks are as I said.	Jan 15 16:21
oiaohm	msb_: countries that acid attack females there is normally females doing to to males for being unfathful.	Jan 15 16:21
oiaohm	msb_: Lot of reporting gets sexually bias very quickly.	Jan 15 16:23
abeNd-org	either way, it shouldnt be happening	Jan 15 16:24
oiaohm	msb_: Current reports "80 percent of victims of acid violence are women" the other 20 percent are men.	Jan 15 16:25
abeNd-org	& most of that is probably by other men, for the same reasons they do it to women	Jan 15 16:25
oiaohm	abeNd-org: no most of the men if you dig deep enough is their wifes.	Jan 15 16:26
abeNd-org	oh im sure that happens, im not doubting that	Jan 15 16:27
abeNd-org	im just saying its probably alot of "alternative lifestyles" too	Jan 15 16:27
abeNd-org	but anyway you slice it, no one should be tossing acid at another person for sexual reasons	Jan 15 16:28
oiaohm	Basically big cultural problem to settle relationship problems using acid and violence instead non-violence means.	Jan 15 16:28
abeNd-org	its a good thing that no one has figured out how to throw acid at another person over the internet	Jan 15 16:29
abeNd-org	unless that was really what was behind all those exploding laptop batteries!?	Jan 15 16:29
oiaohm	abeNd-org: with drone delievery its possible.	Jan 15 16:30
XRevan86	abeNd-org: Does Windows count as acid?	Jan 15 16:30
abeNd-org	yea, ive already seen cases of toolshed kiddies strapping laserpens to drones & thinking that is fun to shine at people	Jan 15 16:30
abeNd-org	XRevan86: no, the only thing windows does is burn through your time & pocketbook, it doesnt burn your skin, so it is not an acid	Jan 15 16:31
MinceR	171240 < abeNd-org> the movement can't get their lattes in countries like that	Jan 15 16:31
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 16:31
msb_	abeNd-org: "feminism is strong here in the states, where every male is 110% evil" I didn't know we had a woman-hater here.	Jan 15 16:32
abeNd-org	msb_: woman hater no, just wish that since the movement is so strong here, they would point some of that towards countries where things like acid throwing is so common	Jan 15 16:33
oiaohm	msb_: 20 about percent of physcal domistaic volicence is performed by women. This is the same globally even in countries where acid is not used.	Jan 15 16:34
MinceR	i didn't know everybody who isn't a crybully is a woman-hater	Jan 15 16:34
msb_	What does "crybully" mean?	Jan 15 16:35
MinceR	same as SJW	Jan 15 16:35
XRevan86	Basic problem here is that there are people out there who think that plain existence of some other kinds of people is offending to them.	Jan 15 16:36
oiaohm	msb_: scary part is back tracking cases of domestic violence 90 percent of male domestic violence offenders where taught it by their mothers.	Jan 15 16:36
oiaohm	Yes really simple to say 110% of men are evil then not take responsibility for raising them that way.	Jan 15 16:37
abeNd-org	no, im all for equal rights, but that movement is more or less on its way here, so why not start spreading it worldwide where in some places womens rights are way way behind where they are at stateside	Jan 15 16:37
msb_	So that can be good or bad. It's good to campaign against computer games that teach boys to kill women.	Jan 15 16:37
msb_	That's how SJWs got started.	Jan 15 16:38
oiaohm	msb_ should not it be against any game teaching you to kill???	Jan 15 16:38
cubexyz	space invaders? :)	Jan 15 16:38
XRevan86	Tetris	Jan 15 16:38
cubexyz	I think Tetris is safe	Jan 15 16:39
XRevan86	cubexyz: What about all those innocent bricks?	Jan 15 16:39
MinceR	i don't remember any videogames that teach how to kill women	Jan 15 16:40
MinceR	then again, one could say that a videogame in which enemies are all male does not represent women, and is thus evil	Jan 15 16:41
abeNd-org	and people (male or female) not being able to tell video games or other forms of entertainment apart from real life are a different problem, that is where mental health care worldwide is failing	Jan 15 16:41
MinceR	but yeah, crybullies seem to have started with attacking video games and the people who play them	Jan 15 16:41
oiaohm	msb_: Its not only boys who play violence based computer games.	Jan 15 16:42
MinceR	abeNd-org: no problem, we'll just ban every aspect of our culture msb_ does not indulge in and everything will be a-ok	Jan 15 16:42
oiaohm	http://psychcentral.com/news/2015/07/10/violent-video-games-reduce-stress-up-aggression/86677.html There is data on computer games.	Jan 15 16:42
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abeNd-org	MinceR: oh man, that reminds me of the days of diablo1 where I would play using my wife's name as the archer character, some of the things other people would say to me, good grief no wonder there arent many female gamers...	Jan 15 16:42
oiaohm	Playing non violent computer games is fairly good for you.	Jan 15 16:42
cubexyz	well you could also say chess is violent	Jan 15 16:43
abeNd-org	oiaohm: so what about violent puzzle video games?	Jan 15 16:43
XRevan86	Chess knows no mercy.	Jan 15 16:43
abeNd-org	cubexyz: battlechess,oh the early days of computer gaming	Jan 15 16:43
oiaohm	abeNd-org: most puzzle games are in the non violent camp and by medical studies good for you.	Jan 15 16:43
abeNd-org	don't forget monopoly, that could possibly be the worlds most violent board game ever	Jan 15 16:43
cubexyz	ok, frogger then :)	Jan 15 16:44
cubexyz	you try to avoid getting squished	Jan 15 16:44
cubexyz	the most non-violent game ever	Jan 15 16:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: frogger you are playing the victim not the aggressor. Even so your world view is minor bent by it. Way less than more realistic violent games.	Jan 15 16:45
abeNd-org	oiaohm: I'll stop playing Lara Croft Go then, then again I hear Hitman Go is an even more violent puzzler	Jan 15 16:45
oiaohm	abeNd-org: note I said most to every rules there are items that don't fit. Hitman does that copy realistic violence causing desensitisation.	Jan 15 16:46
oiaohm	Lot of the same rules that apply to video games also apply to moves.	Jan 15 16:47
MinceR	does Nim depict robbery, violence, or both?	Jan 15 16:48
oiaohm	Something else is between 4-20 years of age the core of your personality is set. So what you are exposed to in that time has lasting effects. Younger a person is exposed to violence the more desensitised to it they can be.	Jan 15 16:50
oiaohm	Yes people letting there kids be baby sat by violent computer games or videos is not doing the community any good.	Jan 15 16:52
MinceR	i wonder what sort of personality keeping children ignorant of everything but the happiest, nicest aspects of life results in	Jan 15 16:52
oiaohm	MinceR: overly trusting sucker.	Jan 15 16:52
MinceR	yeah, that's one thing	Jan 15 16:53
MinceR	also, if someone can't stand seeing any signs of harm or violence, they'll be exploited more easily	Jan 15 16:53
XRevan86	MinceR: The proper term is "loh"	Jan 15 16:53
oiaohm	For real world living person has to be exposed to conman trickery. So they have to be exposed to a percent of the nasty aspects.	Jan 15 16:54
MinceR	XRevan86: the proper term for what?	Jan 15 16:54
XRevan86	MinceR: For this kind of person.	Jan 15 16:54
MinceR	ah	Jan 15 16:54
MinceR	i don't remember seen that word ever before	Jan 15 16:54
XRevan86	MinceR: Well, it's Russian, but very accurate :)	Jan 15 16:55
MinceR	ah, it's russian	Jan 15 16:55
MinceR	i did learn _some_ russian, but wasn't exposed to slang :)	Jan 15 16:55
XRevan86	> (Russian Wikipedia) loh – jargon expression, means a simpleton that allows to be screwed up with, potential victim of fraud.	Jan 15 16:58
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 16:58
oiaohm	MinceR: I am trying to remember the USA group the one that uses like horse drawn wagons and so on. They have low access to artificially generated violence materials. Result over all is very low community violence.	Jan 15 16:59
XRevan86	for instance, targeted auditory of spam	Jan 15 16:59
oiaohm	MinceR: basically lots of long term studies into the problem.	Jan 15 16:59
abeNd-org	oiaohm: there are Mennonites & a bunch of others like that	Jan 15 17:00
MinceR	what i've read contradicts that	Jan 15 17:00
abeNd-org	but those communities have violence too	Jan 15 17:00
abeNd-org	and there was violence in all communties long before video games/TVs/electricity	Jan 15 17:00
cubexyz	I bet cavemen were pretty violent	Jan 15 17:01
abeNd-org	so leaning on the crutch of "video games cause all violence" is pretty irresponsible	Jan 15 17:01
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abeNd-org	the only time human on human voilence will end, is when humanity ends	Jan 15 17:04
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 17:05
MinceR	apparently humans have figured this out as they're making great effort to that end	Jan 15 17:05
oiaohm	abeNd-org: in the Mennonites vs Amish been interesting. Violences in Amish have been trigger historically by false prophet starting todo violence in other words the "Overly trusting sucker problem". Yet the Mennonites who have a more open access policy has a higher violence rate.	Jan 15 17:08
oiaohm	Basically long lasting fairly peaceful communities give us clues how to address the problem. But not one has the absolute correct solution.	Jan 15 17:09
oiaohm	abeNd-org: part of committing violence requires being desensitised to it.	Jan 15 17:11
oiaohm	abeNd-org: so video games and movies are two possible sources to make desensitised state. Of course watching repeated real world violence over and over again is going to cause the same problems.	Jan 15 17:12
MinceR	part of not being disabled by being threatened with or witnessing violence also requires being desensitized to it	Jan 15 17:12
MinceR	there's also the issue of people not being able to tell the difference between reality and fiction	Jan 15 17:13
MinceR	part of which is known as "religion"	Jan 15 17:13
abeNd-org	so how is it you are desensatized to violence by watching videos over & over again, but not desensatized to cute kitten videos by watching those all the time, cant have it both ways.	Jan 15 17:14
MinceR	lol	Jan 15 17:14
oiaohm	MinceR: that is a common mistake. Combat training to respond and defend self does not require you to be desensitized to it.	Jan 15 17:14
MinceR	how will you get combat training without seeing violence?	Jan 15 17:15
MinceR	will you abstract it to rainbows hitting fluffy pink clouds?	Jan 15 17:15
abeNd-org	nerf guns!	Jan 15 17:15
oiaohm	abeNd-org: is kind of correct. training against knives you use rubber ones and train the correct move into the sub mind so you do the protect action without thinking. Does not matter if your rational brain in is shock from the violence.	Jan 15 17:16
MinceR	how will you perform the correct action if you're in shock?	Jan 15 17:17
oiaohm	MinceR: do you think about everything you are doing when you are walking right.	Jan 15 17:18
oiaohm	People in shock walk.	Jan 15 17:18
oiaohm	Combat is no different.	Jan 15 17:18
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MinceR	combat may require tactical thinking at least	Jan 15 17:18
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oiaohm	MinceR: you perform tactical thinking when walking on uneven ground. You just don't notice it.	Jan 15 17:19
oiaohm	What you need to perform for combat does not need to use any section of brain that need to make major choices so good training is not effected by shock.	Jan 15 17:19
oiaohm	MinceR: I have knocked 3 guys lights out while I was a sleep. If you are high enough trained you don't even have to be awake or have your eyes open to perform combat.	Jan 15 17:21
MinceR	it might help, though	Jan 15 17:21
oiaohm	I am faster when I am asleep then awake.	Jan 15 17:22
oiaohm	So more deadly a sleep than awake.	Jan 15 17:22
MinceR	are you more accurate if your eyes are closed?	Jan 15 17:22
oiaohm	For hart strikes yes guided by sound of hart beat.	Jan 15 17:23
oiaohm	Those are 1 hit drop/kill moves.	Jan 15 17:24
MinceR	will the sound of a heartbeat tell you how your opponent is trying to defend themselves?	Jan 15 17:24
abeNd-org	We should ask a blind martial arts master	Jan 15 17:25
oiaohm	To see opponent is use tonal clicks. So form of human sonar.	Jan 15 17:25
oiaohm	Allows you to fight in pure darkness.	Jan 15 17:26
MinceR	or you could just open your eyes	Jan 15 17:27
oiaohm	MinceR: using eyes does provide more exact data on person physical position as long as there is light todo so.	Jan 15 17:29
oiaohm	But its also more information to process.	Jan 15 17:29
oiaohm	So slows reflex time.	Jan 15 17:30
MinceR	it's fine, there's dedicated circuitry to do that	Jan 15 17:30
oiaohm	Other than the fact you are in fact using visual processing on audio. That is why it so high speed.	Jan 15 17:31
oiaohm	a few blind guys have started to work out they can ride push bikes solo and other things by using the same method.	Jan 15 17:32
oiaohm	Detail is lower you cannot seen anything smaller than 3x3 cm using audio method. So basically impossible to tell what shape an hand is in.	Jan 15 17:32
abeNd-org	at that point it is like self driving cars, it is the humans on the road that are the problem lol	Jan 15 17:33
MinceR	can people who have and retain sight learn that?	Jan 15 17:33
abeNd-org	darn idiots with their faces buried in cell phones not paying attention to that curb coming up & running off the road	Jan 15 17:33
oiaohm	Yes I have sight and I have learnt it. Mil training in black out buildings learn it as well.	Jan 15 17:33
oiaohm	Using bullet sounds allows you to kinda see through walls.	Jan 15 17:33
MinceR	i have a device that lets me see through the wall	Jan 15 17:34
MinceR	i call it a window	Jan 15 17:34
oiaohm	MinceR: I mean solid walls.	Jan 15 17:34
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 17:34
oiaohm	Its not x-ray vison.	Jan 15 17:34
oiaohm	Its the returning echo of the shot off of like human bone.	Jan 15 17:34
oiaohm	Even metal objects echo back so much.	Jan 15 17:35
oiaohm	So gives you aprox guess how many targets are in a room.	Jan 15 17:35
oiaohm	Without having to stick your head out.	Jan 15 17:36
oiaohm	MinceR: basically there are a lot of mucked up ideas about what is required for combat. To command multi people in combat and perform group coordination that requires reasoning section of mind.	Jan 15 17:41
MinceR	can you do that if you're shocked by violence?	Jan 15 17:41
oiaohm	MinceR: group coordination is what is lost if you are shocked by violence.	Jan 15 17:42
oiaohm	And you are trained.	Jan 15 17:42
oiaohm	Basic 1 to 1 combat including waiting until attack is in right location to be dropped does not require group coordination.	Jan 15 17:43
oiaohm	to be correct 1 to many still works because that is solo contained logic.	Jan 15 17:44
oiaohm	Many to many fails.	Jan 15 17:44
oiaohm	Non thinking combat is your normal out of control bar brawl.	Jan 15 17:45
oiaohm	Combat on auto is happening in many at the same time is basically a mess.	Jan 15 17:46
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oiaohm	MinceR: think how often does many to many combat happen. Its the rarity on peaceful countries. So why would you need to particularly train for it.	Jan 15 17:49
MinceR	people trying to shock you by posting links to images happens more often :>	Jan 15 17:50
oiaohm	Desensitisation training in mil is to avoid auto solo combat. The hazard with auto combat is you have no friend or enemy selection either if you are in shock from the violence.	Jan 15 17:53
oiaohm	Those training to be mil/police I can understand the need for desensitisation. Self defence is not required.	Jan 15 17:54
oiaohm	Key word "Self" as in only to protect you not to protect anyone else.	Jan 15 17:55
oiaohm	Age of desensitisation is critical. You want a person to be about 21 years old before having desensitisation training so that their moral code is solid and confirm-able before you do it. Problem with a lot of Mil training starts too young.	Jan 15 17:57
oiaohm	MinceR: the images are part self fulling proficiency. The more violence you see the more normal you will think it is so the more likely you will do violence. Now written about violence is different. Humans are controlled a lot by what they see and do than what they read.	Jan 15 18:02
MinceR	even if you don't consider violence normal, other people will	Jan 15 18:03
MinceR	and they'll do it to you.	Jan 15 18:03
oiaohm	MinceR: partly correct. Primary and High Schools that have taught combat skills see lower over all volince on school grounds. For a person to perform violence against you in majority of causes they must believe they have a chance of winning and not losing badly.	Jan 15 18:06
oiaohm	MinceR: school who has taught combat skills person thinking of being attacker considers if the possiablity of a broken arm or leg is worth it.	Jan 15 18:07
oiaohm	MinceR: this is the big problem people think combat skills are violence. They are releated yes but they are not the same.	Jan 15 18:08
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 18:08
MinceR	_using_ them is violence, at least some of the time :>	Jan 15 18:08
oiaohm	It also depends on the taught combat skils. Particular combat skills only work if person is attacking.	Jan 15 18:09
oiaohm	Yes some of the defensive combat skills can break arms and legs.	Jan 15 18:10
MinceR	is that like defensive hand grenade? :>	Jan 15 18:10
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oiaohm	MinceR: no defensive hand grenade is normally a title given to a smoke bomb or a stunt grenade. Its not like a defensive combat skill where someone punches at you and you catch punch throwing them to ground and breaking arm in process.	Jan 15 18:13
oiaohm	MinceR: the move does not work if person is not attacking.	Jan 15 18:14
oiaohm	MinceR: there is a defensive combat knife skill where you drive the knife while they are still holding it into their shoulder on the side not holding knife.	Jan 15 18:22
oiaohm	MinceR: lets just say the defensive combat skills are ouch.	Jan 15 18:22
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 18:22
oiaohm	If you know everyone around you has defensive combat skills you are way less likely to try violence.	Jan 15 18:23
oiaohm	MinceR: there are over 600 moves thare are in the defensive combat skill paybook. And all of them hurt attackers baddly.	Jan 15 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ScyllaDB: Cassandra compatibility at 1.8	Jan 15 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	million requests per node	Jan 15 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pjktitDi4B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How open-source software could save your life	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FhPXUFxN5D (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3nq	Jan 15 21:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	You Ubuntu Phone Convergence Packs, Steam	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	Controllers https://t.co/5vL0TGGCVk	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get You...'		Jan 15 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hyundai Announces the 2017 Elantra with Android	Jan 15 21:42
TweetTuxMachines	Auto https://t.co/nxIL7FhEVX	Jan 15 21:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 15 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PSA: Android Studio 2.0 Preview 5 is now out	Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Nx4OxvlvtZ (9to5google.com)	Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3pr	Jan 15 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Remix OS means for Android on PCs	Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/keEOkYoFRh (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 15 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CES 2016 Brought Us Loads of Choices for	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	Android Auto https://t.co/RHchC3SwW1	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 15 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hTyYrvrSwq (it.toolbox.com)	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3s1	Jan 15 22:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/688110321546862593	Jan 15 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @CandidCanon @JNGross Health tech is different from molecular pharmaceutics, and both have other market dynamics than other fields.		Jan 15 22:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mycroft Prototype Almost Ready, Developers Show Us the...'		Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Gives Away a Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu Linux	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	Laptop at UbuCon Summit 2016	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jG9n6OAKYk (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3xr	Jan 15 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	You Ubuntu Phone Convergence Packs, Steam	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	Controllers https://t.co/J7jI77iTE8	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T to replace some proprietary systems with	Jan 15 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	open-source tech https://t.co/jZeHnk8wjX	Jan 15 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ciodive.com) #linux included	Jan 15 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AfY9BjE7VO (ostatic.com)	Jan 15 22:38
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3xz	Jan 15 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| AT&T Deal is Evidence of How Ubuntu's Path is Tied to the Cloud		Jan 15 22:38
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get You...'		Jan 15 22:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Gives Away a Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu...'		Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android: More Leftovers https://t.co/DdKAzws5bT	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3za	Jan 15 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Development: Outreachy, OpenStreetMap,	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	Maps https://t.co/g993IDvtrb	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3zb	Jan 15 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QjgZQXbkNs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3zc	Jan 15 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released \| Tux Machines		Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu (Contests, MJ Technology,	Jan 15 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	AT&T) https://t.co/uRO0Ev1ZQo	Jan 15 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of3zd	Jan 15 22:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FOSS From Baidu https://t.co/UrDDtFFLBz	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of41s	Jan 15 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Adult Charter School in Texas Receives Free	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source Training https://t.co/4yMz0iejtk	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of41t	Jan 15 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Adult Charter School in Texas Receives Free Open Source Training \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Excellent Music Player Clementine Is Getting a	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	Massive Update, No Indication of Launch Date	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DRiHnqx8kT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wind River revs up its connected car software	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	and services https://t.co/qaup5xexrS	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	"its widely respected embedded Linux	Jan 16 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Wind River revs up its connected car software and services · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	distribution"	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of490	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/UcTGRqIszU	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of491	Jan 16 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux News: Open Source Training in Texas,	Jan 16 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Journal on One DVD, More Ocean	Jan 16 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dDpnALabPd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of492	Jan 16 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux News: Open Source Training in Texas, Linux Journal on One DVD, More Ocean \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Survey: Open Source Tools Preferred for Mobile	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	Development https://t.co/kyqvlm8kwL	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4af	Jan 16 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Survey: Open Source Tools Preferred for Mobile Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/qKEHwQY6UF	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4ag	Jan 16 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: KDE \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is privacy Free software’s next milestone?	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cjdHuCjFM0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4ah	Jan 16 00:20
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MinceR	https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7	Jan 16 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com \| The resolution of the Bitcoin experiment — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/of4qa ]		Jan 16 02:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Excellent Music Player Clementine Is Getting a Massive...'		Jan 16 02:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE: Microsoft, Tumbleweed, and Summer of	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	Code https://t.co/rKlHPNZNT7	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r0	Jan 16 02:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/2USxKN3QfZ	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r1	Jan 16 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Inside The Ubuntu Phone \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix Might be Out After Release	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DRpGDgaSSD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r2	Jan 16 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix Might be Out After Release \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	Pi 2 https://t.co/KCbA9BLuwa	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of4r3	Jan 16 02:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/2USxKN3QfZ	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@ChronolabsCoop	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of50a	Jan 16 04:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8	Jan 16 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	(gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines	Jan 16 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X	Jan 16 06:07
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cubexyz	looks like slack is sticking with sysvinit	Jan 16 06:44
cubexyz	slackware 14.2 beta 1 has been released	Jan 16 06:44
*TweetTuxMachines @auwalup retweeted @UbuntuTopNews: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 06:54
cubexyz	oiaohm, does current firefox _have_ to have P4 or newer SSE2?	Jan 16 07:08
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msb_	Great Michael Mann "hacker" movie, beautiful cinematography, shows Linux booting up. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2717822/combined	Jan 16 07:40
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I have not looked closely how mozilla builds.	Jan 16 07:59
*TweetTuxMachines @caroljohnson051 favourited '21 Best Free Linux Productivity Tools https://t.co/TWglPd7WCx'		Jan 16 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@Dedo_Mraz (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5lq	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y2QHK0UmuG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5lr	Jan 16 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "These days, Microsoft doesn’t need SUSE	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	anymore" https://t.co/DGEGuNmN6P	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(fossforce.com)	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5ma	Jan 16 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Ubuntu, Microsoft, Tizen & More… \| FOSS Force		Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android On The Desktop https://t.co/siMoUlzbRa	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidpolice.com) https://t.co/4RpeNkMhW1	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(theindianrepublic.com)	Jan 16 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Hands-On With Jide Remix 2.0 For PCs: A Promising Start For Android On The Desktop		Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mb	Jan 16 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theindianrepublic.com \| Developer Version of Remix OS 2.0 Goes Live		Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PhoenixOS is (another) Android-as-a-desktop	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yel6aJDXDW (liliputing.com)	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mc	Jan 16 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jide Technology brings #android to desktops	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5xuqDCdiuS (e27.co)	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TXyXViTdzs (e27.co)	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HVkIRDK6wB	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mv	Jan 16 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e27.co \| Ex-Googlers want to bring the Android ecosytem to PC		Jan 16 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e27.co \| Jide Technology		Jan 16 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| Jide Builds List Of User-Voted "Best Apps For Remix OS" \| Androidheadlines.com		Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Offers Promo Code Options for Android	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	App Developers https://t.co/zhvNNeazGJ	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.eweek.com)	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mx	Jan 16 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Google Offers Promo Code Options for Android App Developers		Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 schedule, DevConf.cz, looking back at	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	2015, and modularization	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/g8lyuzbrTa (fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 16 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ease eye strain and Sleep easier with Redshift	Jan 16 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated	Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JxR6ySwIOM	Jan 16 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/sOSQyUhmsg	Jan 16 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix Might be Out After Release	Jan 16 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ouxSbfJ4Ye (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 09:53
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schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452907305682#c2276033095202536301	Jan 16 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of5o2 ]		Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	Dear Merpel,	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	it may be abuse of Blogspot protocol, but I believe there is good reason to change the heading of the post into 'Heart-Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded'.	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	@ Mork and @Disgusted examiner: is a person who is proven to be in blatant disrecpect of fundamental human rights still worthy of a public office, such as a "conseiller municipal"?	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	Kind regards,	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	George Brock-Nannestad	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452910629177#c58285839509536044	Jan 16 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of5o3 ]		Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	@Cat:	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"The ILOAT dispute resolution procedure usually takes years. Probably, the EPO internal procedure, before the ILOAT, also takes time."	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	Nowadays there is no internal appeal against disciplinary decisions, so the dismissals (and the downgrading) are appealable directly to the ILOAT.	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	One could hope for accelerated treatment of dismissal cases by the ILOAT. That also seems to be its practice, at least until recently. Many older dismissal cases were decided within 1.5 years with most of that time being spent on two rounds of submissions. But the more recent case of Judgment No. 3297, for example, took about 3.5 years from the filing of the complaint.	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	lots about EPo to come out today...	Jan 16 09:56
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wikileakBot/status/688306781936697344	Jan 16 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileakBot: RT @schestowitz UK Classifies Spending on Policing #Wikileaks Founder After Scandal https://t.co/PsEjNAGMQI #uk #assange #witchhunt #police		Jan 16 10:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu/Debian (EOL, GNOME, Tor)	Jan 16 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu/Debian (EOL, GNOME, Tor) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/XuKafw2niY	Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/hAQBu962ma	Jan 16 11:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/Da3x4MFPos	Jan 16 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/eCxfK0GsCj	Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/ZTWlNClPm1	Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/1/2016: Ocean, Fedora Delays, Moksha	Jan 16 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Jan 16 11:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Linux Delayed, the Distribution Will Be...'		Jan 16 11:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chasgaming/status/688326884975874048	Jan 16 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chasgaming: Interesting read! What's your opinion on #Bitcoin? https://t.co/uzJD1j61Qu		Jan 16 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘Bitcoin Has Failed’, Says Lead Developer Who Just Quit https://t.co/87b8ThLXbz #bitcoin		Jan 16 11:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AnnieMachon/status/688330101826711552	Jan 16 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnnieMachon: A must-read. https://t.co/TZw03yEWU6		Jan 16 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past https://t.co/WzAci18DoJ		Jan 16 12:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu	Jan 16 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux to a City Near You	Jan 16 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dDalmi5HJr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 12:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/688345162712510464	Jan 16 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz @SputnikInt Classified as "It's embarrassing so hush now and go away."		Jan 16 13:07
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schestowitz	[09:56] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/realramnit/status/688298735990902784	Jan 16 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realramnit: RT @schestowitz #Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/NGp0wMmKAE #ubuntu #linux		Jan 16 14:18
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schestowitz	[12:29] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/harlechnnorfolk/status/688337176128569345	Jan 16 14:18
schestowitz	[14:04] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/votepori/status/688359226914160640	Jan 16 14:18
schestowitz	[14:18] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/688351768170885120	Jan 16 14:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@harlechnnorfolk: @schestowitz just shared your tweet on my site: https://t.co/2AcHa5z8yn		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rebelmouse.projectbrainsaver.com \| projectbrainsaver - Just talk!		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@votepori: fucking red jumpsuit apparatus literally shutting the entire building down. https://t.co/sI4dr8pnAK		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Brits who are worries about what the #epo is doing right now should write to representatives: john.alty@ipo.gov.uk sean.dennehey@ipo.gov.uk		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 so no Linux or BSD?		Jan 16 14:20
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688366054029062144	Jan 16 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Do you mean @JohnAlty1 ?		Jan 16 14:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to...'		Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BTC dev: ‘Strangling’ the #blockchain will kill	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	#Bitcoin https://t.co/FWjfi2TWL1	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk) both #linux dominated	Jan 16 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical’s Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux to a City Near You	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pWs15wLArX (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steel, Password Managing the CLI Way	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NbF2gaFJU2 (thelinuxrain.com)	Jan 16 14:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @FGraillot favourited 'BTC dev: ‘Strangling’ the #blockchain will kill #Bitcoin...'		Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RdOj32tu5a (arstechnica.com)	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tEEFm0mMG2 (fossbytes.com)	Jan 16 14:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 \| Ars Technica		Jan 16 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Future Processors From Intel And AMD Will ONLY Support Windows 10		Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio Unveils First Android Smartwatch At CES	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/qOsBTGdr0i	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.christianpost.com)	Jan 16 14:52
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cubexyz	ok, that sounds very bad	Jan 16 14:59
cubexyz	"Future Processors from intel and AMD will only support windows 10"	Jan 16 15:00
cubexyz	sounds kind of wrong actually	Jan 16 15:00
XRevan86	> fossbytes	Jan 16 15:02
XRevan86	what does "foss" mean here?	Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452948093550#c4135262706960241237	Jan 16 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of67i ]		Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	Details of the mock trials are emerging:	Jan 16 15:02
cubexyz	it's the only windows version supported they should say	Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Jan 16 15:02
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schestowitz	"	Jan 16 15:02
XRevan86	> Future Processors from intel and AMD will not support windows older than 10	Jan 16 15:03
XRevan86	that's how news should be	Jan 16 15:03
cubexyz	the way it's worded it sounds like everything but windows is locked out	Jan 16 15:03
cubexyz	yeah	Jan 16 15:03
cubexyz	M$ is fighting very hard to get everyone on win10	Jan 16 15:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: But why news-site called "fossbytes" ignores GNU/Linux?	Jan 16 15:04
XRevan86	I only know "FOSS" as in "Free Open Source Software"	Jan 16 15:04
XRevan86	it must mean something else here	Jan 16 15:04
cubexyz	they are pretty new	Jan 16 15:05
cubexyz	tech media startup from India	Jan 16 15:06
cubexyz	and they don't ignore linux	Jan 16 15:06
cubexyz	http://fossbytes.com/getting-started-with-linux-part-1-choosing-a-distribution/	Jan 16 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Getting Started With Linux : Part-1 (Choosing a Distribution) [ http://ur1.ca/of67z ]		Jan 16 15:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: Why did they in the Wintel news?	Jan 16 15:07
cubexyz	put them in a similar category to http://www.howtogeek.com	Jan 16 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| How-To Geek - For Geeks, By Geeks.		Jan 16 15:08
cubexyz	trying to cover all the bases I guess	Jan 16 15:08
cubexyz	wintel is passé	Jan 16 15:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: I expected them to be English OpenNET	Jan 16 15:11
XRevan86	> Future Processors from intel and AMD will only support windows 10	Jan 16 15:12
XRevan86	but this is just FOSS-ignorant	Jan 16 15:12
cubexyz	there's two FOSSes I'd say	Jan 16 15:12
cubexyz	there's hard FOSS... that is source code for everything including BIOS	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	we usually fall quite short of that	Jan 16 15:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: They don't qualify on either.	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	there's middle of the road FOSS, that's Linux/BSD, so the BIOS is closed but the OS is FOSS at least, and applications are FOSS	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	fossbytes is FOSSlite :)	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	ok, that's three FOSSes	Jan 16 15:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: They still don't qualify %)	Jan 16 15:14
cubexyz	FOSSlite is when you're OS is closed, but you still use FOSS applications on the closed source OS (along with closed source BIOS)	Jan 16 15:14
XRevan86	there level of FOSS'ness is somewhere in "okay, let's use Notepad++ instead of Notepad"	Jan 16 15:14
cubexyz	I didn't say it was good :)	Jan 16 15:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'd classify differently	Jan 16 15:15
XRevan86	FLOSS, FOSS, OSS	Jan 16 15:15
XRevan86	also FOSS: copyleft FOSS and permissive (defenceless) FOSS	Jan 16 15:18
cubexyz	opennet.ru jumps into cyrillic when I do a search	Jan 16 15:18
cubexyz	but it looks more interesting that fossbytes that's for sure	Jan 16 15:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: Probably a thing because they use KOI8-R %).	Jan 16 15:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's a really good site. Pity it's local (not international).	Jan 16 15:19
XRevan86	one just need to learn not to read comments there %)	Jan 16 15:20
cubexyz	right, that's one of the reasons why some people don't like the BSD license	Jan 16 15:27
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oiaohm	cubexyz: wine project history is example where BSD style licenses can go wrong.	Jan 16 17:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: defencelessness?	Jan 16 17:10
oiaohm	XRevan86: do you know the history that happened with Wine.	Jan 16 17:10
XRevan86	oiaohm: Which one?	Jan 16 17:11
oiaohm	http://wiki.winehq.org/WineHistory	Jan 16 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.winehq.org \| WineHistory - The Official Wine Wiki		Jan 16 17:12
oiaohm	XRevan86: transgaming vs Codeweavers 2001 while wine project was a MIT style licenese.	Jan 16 17:13
XRevan86	oiaohm: Ah, proprietary Wine derivatives.	Jan 16 17:13
XRevan86	That's what happens when one uses non-copyleft licences, yes.	Jan 16 17:14
oiaohm	Worse the developer aquirement bidding war between the two companies.	Jan 16 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	January, according to Samsung MD	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/urM2Ivzgoq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6j0	Jan 16 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22 January, according to Samsung MD \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	January, according to Samsung MD	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F960CLprdf (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 16 17:16
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oiaohm	By 2002 Codeweavers was in the horible position of having to consider going closed source or getting some license on the source code they released to prevent compeitors beating them to customers so leaving them short of funds to pay developers.	Jan 16 17:17
oiaohm	XRevan86: so there is some quite nasty ramifcations for a company that can happen by using non-copyleft.	Jan 16 17:17
oiaohm	Basically if you are planing to sell support and add on services on a open source project you use a copyleft license of some form or get hurt.	Jan 16 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Want Freedom To Choose Your Hardware? Choose	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux. https://t.co/v1hPUlQQhO	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6kj	Jan 16 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Want Freedom To Choose Your Hardware? Choose GNU/Linux. \| Robert Pogson		Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Experiences with Wasteland 2: Director's Cut	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	On Linux https://t.co/QHbH7hclG9	Jan 16 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 16 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6kk	Jan 16 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| My Experiences with Wasteland 2: Director's Cut On Linux - Phoronix		Jan 16 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!	Jan 16 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OjtgtwhlG9 (www.blacklablinux.org)	Jan 16 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6kl	Jan 16 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org \| Black Lab Linux: Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!		Jan 16 17:33
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dour	nice spam	Jan 16 17:46
schestowitz	huh?	Jan 16 18:02
schestowitz	where?	Jan 16 18:02
dour	the bot	Jan 16 18:14
dour	TweetTuxMachines	Jan 16 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nng1y1FUT7	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	(4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com)	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6ql	Jan 16 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com \| 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.		Jan 16 18:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical’s Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to...'		Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CW0fkz2NLp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6qm	Jan 16 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released! \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics (GLVND, Drag-n-Drop)	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oiaP3O0FI8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6qn	Jan 16 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Graphics (GLVND, Drag-n-Drop) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0HQfoJJKUz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6qo	Jan 16 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released. \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:37
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 16 18:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/688434157865840641	Jan 16 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Proxies and VPNs to be blocked by Netflix @schestowitz https://t.co/SH4hpBqQZW		Jan 16 18:56
schestowitz	dour: gives news updates	Jan 16 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> betanews.com \| Proxies and VPNs to be blocked by Netflix		Jan 16 18:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966262	Jan 16 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/15/when-terror-in-europe-was-common		Jan 16 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reason.com \| Terrorism In Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past -- And Doesn't Justify Expanded Repressive Surveillance - Hit & Run : Reason.com [ http://ur1.ca/of6wc ]		Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	Just Street Crime shows rise…	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	ps: Interesting Correlation between Terror Wave and the End of Soviet Union: ‘no money - no fun’	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966236	Jan 16 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/ http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-pcs-with-intel-skylake-processors-wont-support-windows-78-1/		Jan 16 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/of6wm ]		Jan 16 19:28
schestowitz	"Well I guess there will be more switching to linux then . Someone should step up and start manufacturing arm based pcs , to overcome uefi shit ."	Jan 16 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com \| Future Processors From Intel And AMD Will ONLY Support Windows 10 [ http://ur1.ca/of6wn ]		Jan 16 19:28
schestowitz	That's optimistic analysis of antitrust violations, IMHO	Jan 16 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/hES5eKywAD	Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6xz	Jan 16 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DbqRMQkF2Z	Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of6y0	Jan 16 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/DbqRMQkF2Z'		Jan 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/YgkoJmipwz	Jan 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of70m	Jan 16 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 20:10
schestowitz	http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/chelsea_clinton_takes_a_shot_at_bernie_sanders_20160116/	Jan 16 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com \| Jeff Danziger: Chelsea Clinton Takes a Shot at Bernie Sanders - Jeff Danziger - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/of716 ]		Jan 16 20:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/YgkoJmipwz	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of78r	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp (linuxg.net)	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of78s	Jan 16 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes \| LinuxG.net		Jan 16 21:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp'		Jan 16 21:36
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp'		Jan 16 21:36
schestowitz	http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/	Jan 16 21:45
schestowitz	I think I crashed this site when linking to it	Jan 16 21:46
schestowitz	it must be a VERY weak server	Jan 16 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/ )		Jan 16 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lubuntu 16.04 LTS will use kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2BtsvqZ0uF (error) testers sought	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dHSbqsGCUn (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7cr	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Budgie Desktop	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dSE7NHvshh (www.youtube.com)	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7d9	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Quod Libet GTK Based Audio Player and Tag	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	Editor for Linux https://t.co/W8MR0B8ozw	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.noobslab.com)	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7da	Jan 16 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-16-04-lts-will-use-kernel-4-4-lts/ )		Jan 16 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| How You Can Help Test the New Ubuntu Software Center		Jan 16 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Solus 1.0 Budgie Desktop - YouTube		Jan 16 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.noobslab.com \| `Quod Libet` GTK Based Audio Player and Tag Editor for Linux - NoobsLab \| Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps		Jan 16 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Finding the Perfect Linux Laptop	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QzADWoNq7b (shkspr.mobi)	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7e9	Jan 16 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/01/finding-the-perfect-linux-laptop/ )		Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SMPlayer 16.1 Released, Adds Video Bookmarking	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/N8EO9tfWpq (www.hecticgeek.com)	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7eb	Jan 16 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| SMPlayer 16.1 Released, Adds Video Bookmarking		Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SolydXK 2015.12	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJ96jHK9Al (www.youtube.com)	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7ec	Jan 16 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| SolydXK 2015.12 - YouTube		Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Convergence Device To Be Announced	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Next Month? https://t.co/BZvdwRSq1b	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk) Mobile World Congress	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7ed	Jan 16 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| New Ubuntu Convergence Device Will Be Demoed Next Month		Jan 16 22:24
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/40v28h/zfs_on_linux_finally_accepted_on_debian/	Jan 16 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| ZFS on Linux finally accepted on Debian! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/of7ei ]		Jan 16 22:26
schestowitz	cubexyz: http://netboot.xyz/	Jan 16 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netboot.xyz \| netboot.xyz		Jan 16 22:40
schestowitz	I think it may be new	Jan 16 22:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688492161579511808	Jan 16 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Been running solydx and solydk on machines for past 5 years. Only complaint is in kde I have to drop down into recovery to boot		Jan 16 22:48
schestowitz	KDE is having tough times at the moment. I dumped it after 16 years (3 weeks ago). Now plain openbox.	Jan 16 22:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BBCMOTD/status/688488515089379332	Jan 16 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BBCMOTD: John Terry has scored four PL own-goals for Chelsea, more than any other #CFC player https://t.co/TxcuNt6pDj #MOTD https://t.co/Whdy32vTjo		Jan 16 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| Match of the Day Social - BBC Sport		Jan 16 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BBCMOTD: John Terry has scored four PL own-goals for Chelsea, more than any other #CFC player https://t.co/TxcuNt6pDj #MOTD https://t.co/Whdy32vTjo		Jan 16 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool	Jan 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	Is Out After Three Years of Development	Jan 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/14LxkuZUN8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7hu	Jan 16 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool Is Out After Three Years of Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines group test: BSD Distros https://t.co/bdWrc59OGY	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7hv	Jan 16 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| group test: BSD Distros \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YQKajhJOYz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7hw	Jan 16 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 23:05
*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool Is...'		Jan 16 23:11
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks...'		Jan 16 23:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool Is...'		Jan 16 23:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688505252388179968	Jan 16 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Looking to explore qubes next when I find time. Read the Main_Page, do you have good review link for openbox ?		Jan 16 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features	Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AZczE2xIdA (bedrocklinux.org)	Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7mf	Jan 16 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bedrocklinux.org \| Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features		Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks	Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo	Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/en7g4zUAOa (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of7mg	Jan 16 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo		Jan 16 23:54
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks...'		Jan 16 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” Xfce	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by and KDE Released https://t.co/loYzYqjgep	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecgq	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/10NHMzQAjz	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecgr	Jan 10 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Q6xIeZzsI7	Jan 10 00:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oecgs	Jan 10 00:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio WSD-F10 Android Wear smartwatch hands-on	Jan 10 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	review https://t.co/LZiFOWFc0v	Jan 10 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oedsq	Jan 10 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Casio WSD-F10 Android Wear smartwatch hands-on review \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slime Rancher pre-alpha, DRM free, available	Jan 10 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux https://t.co/ZnLcphNxhv	Jan 10 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 10 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oedsr	Jan 10 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Slime Rancher pre-alpha, DRM free, available for Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 10 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines These unlocked Android phones from CES 2016 are	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	the real reason why Apple is going to struggle	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	in 2016 https://t.co/qWFqpTWIzF	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidguys.com)	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oedte	Jan 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidguys.com \| These unlocked Android phones from CES 2016 are the real reason why Apple is going to struggle in 2016		Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tails 1.8.2 is out https://t.co/64uSWnjfTd	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(tails.boum.org)	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oedtf	Jan 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://tails.boum.org/news/version_1.8.2/index.en.html )		Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Will Be Interesting To See If AMD Supports	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Coreboot For Zen https://t.co/BjjdScEbNr	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 10 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oedtg	Jan 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| It Will Be Interesting To See If AMD Supports Coreboot For Zen - Phoronix		Jan 10 10:35
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6952416	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	"Oh, now I’m not sure. If it were just a problem for the Windows port, I would not mind so much. I’m afraid it bleeds back to gnu/linux. I’ll have to dig deeper."	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	That's good..	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6954332	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	"looks good ;)"	Jan 10 11:00
schestowitz	Just in time for Vista 10 refugees...	Jan 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Jan 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 http://www.techworm.net/2016/01/best-features-linux-mint-18.html #linuxmint #gnu #linux		Jan 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techworm.net \| Here are the best features of Linux Mint 18 » TechWorm		Jan 10 11:00
MinceR	vista10 refugees to lendows or to gnu/linux?	Jan 10 12:46
MinceR	they can get the brokenness they got used to from redhat	Jan 10 12:46
oiaohm	MinceR: You might not like systemd but at least a redhat system is not logging and reporting all usage activity to outside source.	Jan 10 12:52
MinceR	how do you know?	Jan 10 12:53
MinceR	also, what makes you think that won't change?	Jan 10 12:53
oiaohm	MinceR: network traffic.	Jan 10 12:53
oiaohm	MinceR: Redhat to operate in air gapped networks for USA Mil and other Mil cannot be sending huge stacks of crap home.	Jan 10 12:54
oiaohm	MinceR: redhat biggest customer is Mil.	Jan 10 12:54
MinceR	maybe it only sends data when the nsa knocks	Jan 10 12:54
MinceR	oiaohm: that sort of stuff didn't stop the nsa from poisoning the stuff they use themselves	Jan 10 12:54
oiaohm	Not at all. NSA and USA navy don't get alone.	Jan 10 12:54
oiaohm	along.	Jan 10 12:55
oiaohm	MinceR: you think systems controling nuke weapons would you let anyone have backdoors including the NSA.	Jan 10 12:56
oiaohm	MinceR: biggest deployment of redhat Linux systems in a single unfied system is controling the USA nuke weapon subs and land bases.	Jan 10 12:58
oiaohm	MinceR: for some reason Microsoft Windows is not trusted todo ath.	Jan 10 12:58
oiaohm	ath that.	Jan 10 12:58
MinceR	i think the nsa has gone rogue	Jan 10 13:00
MinceR	and redhat is assisting them, for money and favors	Jan 10 13:00
oiaohm	MinceR: redhat use to assist NSA. But when it came out NSA was backdooring encryption systems particular ones the USA Navy need there was a huge cat fight.	Jan 10 13:01
MinceR	so you think pushing a hotbed of vulnerabilities to most formerly gnu/linux systems does not assist the nsa	Jan 10 13:01
oiaohm	MinceR: NSA is such a small customer and USA Navy is a big customer to Redhat. You can guess what one wines.	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	?	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	the one that can threaten them with more	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	The reason behind systemd is to make cgroup secuirty and other featues standard.	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	yeah, right	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	that's the excuse	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	Development mention of systemd has been completley wrong.	Jan 10 13:02
MinceR	and yet it doesn't justify most of their shitty "design" decisions	Jan 10 13:02
oiaohm	MinceR: Navy where using Huge docker and other deployments before systemd.	Jan 10 13:03
MinceR	but those were too reliable and too secure so they switched to lendows?	Jan 10 13:03
oiaohm	No	Jan 10 13:03
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oiaohm	At the time of systemd starting docker had a lot of issues too MinceR	Jan 10 13:03
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MinceR	or they already made the bad decision to contract redhat so they got cancerd anyway	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	MinceR: there was a stack of broken mess.	Jan 10 13:04
MinceR	oiaohm: there still is a stack of broken mess	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	Different broken mess.	Jan 10 13:04
MinceR	the fact that most of that stack is in pid1 and some of it is being pushed into the kernel doesn't make things any better	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	Level of broken mess really has not changed.	Jan 10 13:04
oiaohm	A proper IPC between cgroups could make things better MinceR	Jan 10 13:05
oiaohm	In fact a proper IPC so individular parts can register up in a single place would in fact help things.	Jan 10 13:06
MinceR	oiaohm: kdbus is not "a proper IPC"	Jan 10 13:06
oiaohm	kdbus was attempt to avoid reinventing well to add a proper IPC.	Jan 10 13:07
oiaohm	well/wheel.	Jan 10 13:07
oiaohm	Of course using dbus as a template really was not such a hot idea.	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	no, it was an attempt to push crappy redhat code to everyone's kernel	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	along with crappy redhat "design"	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	and redhat security holes	Jan 10 13:07
oiaohm	Most of the security issues and the like in kdbus are also in dbus.	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	of course	Jan 10 13:08
MinceR	dbus is shit, pushing it into the kernel would make it even worse	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	Lets take someone of poor quality then attempt to alter it is not a good move.	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	dbus need a redesign.	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	In fact still needs a redesign.	Jan 10 13:08
oiaohm	MinceR: The idea of dbus is right design is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus	Jan 10 13:13
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oiaohm	MinceR: redesigning dbus and putting it in kernel space is most likely correct to reduce over head and allow LSM/Cgroups/... provide control over dbus communication.	Jan 10 13:16
oiaohm	MinceR: Of course I am not going to say the kdbus attempt was correct.	Jan 10 13:17
MinceR	wrong.	Jan 10 13:18
MinceR	http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.3/02040.html	Jan 10 13:18
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MinceR	the overhead isn't where they believed it was	Jan 10 13:18
MinceR	and they didn't care enough to find out where it is, "just throw it into the kernel"	Jan 10 13:19
oiaohm	Sorry you are over reading. If you want to look to OS with correctly made IPC like dbus you are looking to Microkernels. Like QNX.	Jan 10 13:22
oiaohm	Yes the dbus userspace libraries are crap.	Jan 10 13:23
oiaohm	Some of that is hacking around userspace race conditions that is something that is preventable in kernal space.	Jan 10 13:23
oiaohm	MinceR: basically a percentage of dbus style IPC to function well needs kernel cooperation.	Jan 10 13:25
MinceR	"kernel cooperation" is not the same as "just throw the whole hairball into the kernel"	Jan 10 13:25
oiaohm	True wrong design model. kdbus developer went with throw the whole lot in kernel then trim back.	Jan 10 13:26
oiaohm	Ok that was how the Linux network stack was developed but that was 15+ years ago. Kernel develment methods have moved on.	Jan 10 13:27
oiaohm	bus1 what is the new attempt is trying to go as min as possible in kernel.	Jan 10 13:27
MinceR	i think you can see why i don't have a lot of confidence in bus1	Jan 10 13:28
oiaohm	bus1 design method is what kdbus should have used off the get go.	Jan 10 13:28
oiaohm	bus1 is also been a lot better commented than a lot of drivers and even kdbus. https://github.com/bus1/bus1/blob/master/ipc/bus1/active.c	Jan 10 13:30
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oiaohm	MinceR: basically its looking like they have learnt from their lumps.	Jan 10 13:31
MinceR	i can't tell if they learned the minimum possible or enough to make them do it right this time	Jan 10 13:32
MinceR	but i don't think that Linus telling them to shove their shoddy crap can replace Software Engineering 101	Jan 10 13:32
MinceR	then again, if QA pretty much consists of the project leader noticing shit and stopping the merge, that doesn't give me a lot of confidence	Jan 10 13:33
MinceR	what are the others doing?	Jan 10 13:33
oiaohm	Remember what I said about structure.	Jan 10 13:34
oiaohm	when kdbus was first attempting to enter the Linux kernel it was only after staging listing.	Jan 10 13:34
oiaohm	So this lowers down the maintainer auditing level.	Jan 10 13:35
oiaohm	MinceR: please be aware mature drivers developed out of tree get to merge into the Linux kernel straight into mainline.	Jan 10 13:35
oiaohm	No need to go to staging directory area first.	Jan 10 13:35
MinceR	i wonder how mature those are	Jan 10 13:36
oiaohm	Anything sitting in the staging directory has something broken.	Jan 10 13:36
oiaohm	Now kdbus was that far broken it was not even acceptable for staging.	Jan 10 13:36
oiaohm	MinceR: Linus and Greg happen to be the two who decide what can enter staging. Linus has not appointed any extra maintainer to staging. Remember to reject takes two signs.	Jan 10 13:38
MinceR	and greg happens to sign off any crap that comes from retards like poettering and sievers and m$'s code monkeys	Jan 10 13:38
oiaohm	MinceR: to stall takes one.	Jan 10 13:38
oiaohm	Stall for review is all Linus could have done if he did not have Greg signing off on rejected as well.	Jan 10 13:39
MinceR	makes me seriously worried for the future of linux	Jan 10 13:39
oiaohm	MinceR: so like it or not both greg and linus end up voting against kdbus.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	MinceR: remember its another round of approvals to leave staging.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	This is why most of the hyper-v drivers are still stuck in staging.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	and have not moved to mainline core locations.	Jan 10 13:40
oiaohm	MinceR: staging has other rules to remain. 1 is need. So if hyper-v or other staging drivers were not need for some operational reason by multi distrobutions they would be deleted and mandated to go out of mainline.	Jan 10 13:42
oiaohm	So with kdbus it so funny its not funny. kdbus got to the point where systemd had to function with kdbus so this means there was no need so even if it made it into staging it would have end up deleted again.	Jan 10 13:43
oiaohm	Result is bus1 most likely to enter Linux kernel this time will have to face full review and be mainline core quality.	Jan 10 13:44
oiaohm	MinceR: basically it does not pay to screw up with the Linux kernel first time around because second time will be many times harder.	Jan 10 13:44
MinceR	unless they unleash the crybullies at Linus	Jan 10 13:45
oiaohm	complain builling you have seen what that results in with Linus. Con Kolivas case	Jan 10 13:47
oiaohm	MinceR: basically really bad idea you attempt that your code can end up branded to be never merged.	Jan 10 13:48
oiaohm	Basically you presumed the systemd does not have punishments.	Jan 10 13:49
oiaohm	Screw up with kdbus means bus1 merge will be hard. Screw bus1 up and it might be their last role of dice.	Jan 10 13:49
oiaohm	MinceR: remember I told you about the systemd conference video. They admitted due to how hard the current entry process is to the Linux kernel is for them it might take them 5 years to even be able to put up merge request.	Jan 10 13:53
MinceR	so they'll have someone "independent" submit it	Jan 10 13:54
oiaohm	MinceR: does not work that way.	Jan 10 13:54
oiaohm	Others tried that in past.	Jan 10 13:54
oiaohm	One of those others was Con Kolivas	Jan 10 13:55
oiaohm	MinceR: so like or not things are not all going systemd way.	Jan 10 13:57
oiaohm	MinceR: in fact they gap is open for someone to ruin systemd day. If someone made a good IPC for cross cgroup/init control and got it merged due to the rule forbiding duplication features without need would lock out dbus1.	Jan 10 14:00
oiaohm	they/the	Jan 10 14:00
MinceR	assuming that such IPC is even necessary	Jan 10 14:01
MinceR	like the cancerd "feature" list	Jan 10 14:01
oiaohm	Reality such a IPC feature is necessary. docker and other also use userspace hacks that have issues attempting to work around same problem.	Jan 10 14:03
oiaohm	Really the systemd feature list you don't like that is so long right. MinceR	Jan 10 14:03
MinceR	also, the duplicate rule already failed	Jan 10 14:03
MinceR	hype-V virtio stuff got merged	Jan 10 14:04
MinceR	even though that was already done for qemu, iirc	Jan 10 14:04
oiaohm	Hyper-v drivers use a loop hole in the rules that don't apply to IPC or most other userspace things in Linux.	Jan 10 14:05
oiaohm	The loop hole that hyper-v drivers uses is why you have multi network card drivers and the like for real hardware.	Jan 10 14:06
MinceR	ridiculous	Jan 10 14:06
oiaohm	To interface with provided envorniment outside Linux clause is the only reason Hyper-v drivers got to merge.	Jan 10 14:06
oiaohm	MinceR: please note "Xen Project PVHVM drivers" with virtio before hyper-v drivers had already proving the case allow it.	Jan 10 14:08
oiaohm	MinceR: so hyper-v allowance is not a special case.	Jan 10 14:08
oiaohm	MinceR: there is no such allowance for duplication for items like cgroups or other IPCs in the Linux kernel to be provided to userspace. They must have unique features.	Jan 10 14:10
oiaohm	MinceR: there were 3 different implementations doing what cgroups did before cgroups was made and all the other 3 were exterminated.	Jan 10 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 10/1/2016: New Tails, GNOME Airplane/WiFi	Jan 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	Hot Key https://t.co/M1drPmHfqR	Jan 10 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 10 22:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/686313309038100480	Jan 10 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Never a better collection of Linux floss links unless @schestowitz 's twitter stream ;) https://t.co/cTUqUS1YXe		Jan 10 22:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/686313679718080513	Jan 10 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz ;)		Jan 10 22:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 22:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 10 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 10 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/97l0ojFsQd	Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/6NClFi1Yfw	Jan 10 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/kfIMdu5G6Q	Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/gpC5ZUI9cD	Jan 10 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 23:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv	Jan 10 23:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/ucaHDbglwv	Jan 10 23:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Week in Techrights https://t.co/xX0QE54vWZ	Jan 11 00:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@The_Code_Shirts	Jan 11 00:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia	Jan 11 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O1nZUsMkVH (torrentfreak.com)	Jan 11 00:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia - TorrentFreak		Jan 11 00:59
cubexyz	yeah the statement "authors must be paid" is a bit dubious	Jan 11 01:22
cubexyz	oh and the article is America-centric	Jan 11 01:23
cubexyz	what I find interesting is how stuff gets lost	Jan 11 01:24
cubexyz	silent films? 80% lost	Jan 11 01:25
cubexyz	FOSS stuff? Some of it has disappeared completely	Jan 11 01:25
cubexyz	there's so much stuff that hosters delete old stuff	Jan 11 01:25
cubexyz	regarding Wikipedia, I noticed Gates' Dad never talked about wikipedia but he sure talked about Encarta	Jan 11 01:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android smartphones with Force Touch:	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	available, upcoming, and rumored	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FQaTsdNxhY (www.phonearena.com)	Jan 11 01:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windlands, a first person grappling hook	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	exploration game now on SteamOS & Linux	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eiXYmmkzWo (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 11 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Windlands, a first person grappling hook exploration game now on SteamOS & Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak may come to Linux	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	some day https://t.co/R45itMQvHe	Jan 11 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 11 01:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2,	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	Framework 5.17.0, and Apps 5.12.0	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DHJx6SkKvJ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2, Framework 5.17.0, and Apps 5.12.0		Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	5.3.0 and Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4gdD2w4ABa (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeghs	Jan 11 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| 4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC 5.3.0 and Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS		Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MKVToolNix v8.8.0 released	Jan 11 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5G8gDgjEs5 (www.bunkus.org)	Jan 11 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeght	Jan 11 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunkus.org \| MKVToolNix v8.8.0 released « mosu's tips & news from the Matroska world		Jan 11 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.4 https://t.co/1DH6yBtTUW (lwn.net)	Jan 11 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Officially Released, Adds 3D Support in the Virtual GPU Driver		Jan 11 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview: Jono Bacon https://t.co/yTKTswq6V6	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 11 01:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support	Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kz1aB39kGZ (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 01:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 5 Now Uses i686 Kernel Over i586, SPARC64 Support - Phoronix		Jan 11 01:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	Separated from the GNOME Stack	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AZ2fWtOOCJ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus Linux Operating System to Be Soon Separated from the GNOME Stack		Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes	Jan 11 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gqzucM9iPL (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 01:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Linux Cinnamon 16.01 Now in Development, Ships with Arc and Nitrux Themes		Jan 11 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives KDE Plasma 5.5.2, Framework 5.17.0,...'		Jan 11 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MLinux 16.0 Enters Beta, Core Edition Uses GCC...'		Jan 11 01:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux 4.4 https://t.co/1DH6yBtTUW https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW https://t.co/sOdxNp0VJW'		Jan 11 01:35
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 11 08:37
schestowitz	Doubt it. marekting.	Jan 11 08:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/686458235449126912	Jan 11 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest @schestowitz @bardehleIP technical is a restatement of the same problem, dixit Jacob		Jan 11 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plan for 24 Fedora Design Suite	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4wQhiAmdC3 (blog.thefinalzone.net)	Jan 11 08:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.thefinalzone.net \| The Final Zone project: Plan for 24 Fedora Design Suite		Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 5 two-player split screen games for Android	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	phones and tablets https://t.co/Gth0iUojyR	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phonearena.com)	Jan 11 08:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Top 5 two-player split screen games for Android phones and tablets		Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio unveils Smart Outdoor Android smartwatch	Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/r1QQbNRi2s (tech.firstpost.com)	Jan 11 08:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.firstpost.com \| Casio unveils Smart Outdoor Android smartwatch – Tech2		Jan 11 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry CEO John Chen Says BlackBerry 10 Far	Jan 11 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	From Dead, https://t.co/t1kMderyII	Jan 11 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.com)	Jan 11 08:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com \| BlackBerry CEO John Chen Says BlackBerry 10 Far From Dead, Second Android Device In The works		Jan 11 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau Gets Some Improvements For Linux 4.5	Jan 11 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/esvwRnyVYW (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Nouveau Gets Some Improvements For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 11 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Missteps Of The XOrg Foundation	Jan 11 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V2muPiKEFM (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Missteps Of The X.Org Foundation - Phoronix		Jan 11 11:44
schestowitz	>>> >> http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265243-mega-donor-adelson-keeps-cruz-and-rubio-guessing	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com \| Vegas billionaire donor keeps GOP candidates guessing \| TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/oei4i ]		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> corruption	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> ==	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-resume-scrutiny-of-arms-exports-to-saudi-arabia-a6805356.html	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk \| MPs resume scrutiny of arms exports to Saudi Arabia \| UK Politics \| News \| The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/oei5n ]		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> ==	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/01/10/sean-penn-intelligence-dangle/	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/01/10/sean-penn-intelligence-dangle/ )		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> I guess Penn does not have long left now.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> -	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> old:	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/opinion/without-computer-security-sources-secrets-arent-safe-with-journalists.html?_r=0	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >>	Jan 11 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/oei5p ]		Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>>> >> Though Penn is not a journalist...	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> >	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> > Seen this early. I'm on emptywheel RSS.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> Ok. I'll assume you'll see future post from her and won't forward more.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> FWIW her RSS feed is now working again.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	There's some rubbish in that site, except the stuff about natsec. It's written by other people.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> > You live and learn, I guess, and conclude who's a real journalist that	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> > can be trusted.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	>> >	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> There are few left and fewer coming in to replace the old ones. Same	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	> for IT. There are almost no IT people left anywhere any more.	Jan 11 11:53
schestowitz	They don't call themselves journalists. Salaried writers just have someone else's agency (he who pays).	Jan 11 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Linux 4.5., Graphics	Jan 11 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bEsM6JHRMS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 13:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Linux 4.5., Graphics \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/cXgXGxqQKE	Jan 11 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 13:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks,	Jan 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 to Split OS from Regular Apps	Jan 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bRFAeLuz14 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeiht	Jan 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks, Solus 2.0 to Split OS from Regular Apps \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source licensing needs to grow up already	Jan 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O75SV9jxy7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source licensing needs to grow up already \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best open source email security products	Jan 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/l3XVzDA50V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeii6	Jan 11 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best open source email security products \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 13:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/686541601699672064	Jan 11 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Oh, well, I would not count Trump out of the game. The fat lady did not sing yet. Though, it could be terrible, but can happen		Jan 11 13:38
*TweetTuxMachines @nsqsdkv favourited 'Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in...'		Jan 11 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #LinuxMint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE Screenshot Tour	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QT3AREvR4A (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE Screenshot Tour		Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New AMD CPUs To Support Power Monitoring With	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/RljPrjUGAx	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| New AMD CPUs To Support Power Monitoring With Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-Based XanMod Kernel Tests	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aXrMKM7JD5 (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Linux-Based XanMod Kernel Tests - Phoronix		Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Android phone soon	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/07HnFNeo5X (indiatoday.intoday.in)	Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oein2	Jan 11 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indiatoday.intoday.in \| Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with Android phone soon : News, News - India Today		Jan 11 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple is reportedly making it easier to switch	Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	from iOS to #Android https://t.co/aslW2G9S37	Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Jan 11 13:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Apple is reportedly making it easier to switch from iOS to Android \| The Verge		Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 Beta Finally Released	Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/j60ljgDgfJ (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 11 13:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| OpenShot 2.0 Beta Finally Released - Phoronix		Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE News: Hardware problem: rsync opensuse	Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	down https://t.co/5ieN6A9LCv	Jan 11 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	(news.opensuse.org)	Jan 11 13:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Promise to Fix All Bugs in 4 Weeks,	Jan 11 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 to Split OS from Regular Apps	Jan 11 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rQLy4loVWE (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 11 14:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines redhat upgraded https://t.co/XyzlkMSgot	Jan 11 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	(beanstockd.com)	Jan 11 14:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beanstockd.com \| Red Hat Inc (RHT) Earns Buy Rating from SunTrust – Beanstockd		Jan 11 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Redmi 3 Is Xiaomi’s $100 Copy Of iPhone With A	Jan 11 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	Monster Battery https://t.co/89ERNgcJWP	Jan 11 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jan 11 14:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Redmi 3 Is Xiaomi's $100 Copy Of iPhone With A Monster Battery		Jan 11 14:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/IsiCHEkKS3	Jan 11 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE Screenshot Tour	Jan 11 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/LnBJpvfaQ1	Jan 11 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Blob-Free GNU Linux-libre 4.4 Kernel Released	Jan 11 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's New In Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" KDE	Jan 11 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TKrSNJsOBl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 15:15
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9.0 "Stretch" Alpha 5 Installer Supports...'		Jan 11 15:15
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meet Arduino Tian, a 32-bit ARM IoT SBC...'		Jan 11 15:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux GNOME 16.01 Community Edition Gets a...'		Jan 11 15:15
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux GNOME 16.01 Community Edition Gets a...'		Jan 11 15:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#LinuxMint 17.3 “Rosa” KDE Screenshot Tour https://t.co/QT3AREvR4A'		Jan 11 15:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/686549361900191744	Jan 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Arduino Tian @schestowitz How do I add ethernet ports ? Or is it just USB ? Nothing else...		Jan 11 16:14
schestowitz	Better ask the vendor...	Jan 11 16:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/686558115865714689	Jan 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: oh no, pls. not. I always found Nokia very inflexible when I reported firnware bugs https://t.co/o1knn2xd9f		Jan 11 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Leaked phone suggests Nokia to come back with Android phone soon https://t.co/KpSWwag0yA after https://t.co/ii9OOF2xrf		Jan 11 16:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/686583116350230528	Jan 11 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Oh... Okay.. @schestowitz I'll do that....		Jan 11 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/686594279138013185	Jan 11 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz this means that Facebook and Google will be measuring how radical their users are and reporting/selling that to the government?		Jan 11 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical: One Billion People "Benefit from"	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/WflpgpHnZJ	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Jan 11 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection coming to Mac	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	and Linux via Steam	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YO7wiVlcJ9	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.develop-online.net)	Jan 11 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 11/1/2016: Red Hat Upgraded, Tails 1.8.2	Jan 11 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0Gyail5RZQ (techrights.org)	Jan 11 17:42
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MinceR	http://asset-f.soupcdn.com/asset/12882/8015_f940.jpeg	Jan 11 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora: The Latest	Jan 11 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZObH0zwFgR (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 18:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora: The Latest \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/qCSdkY3OmP	Jan 11 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oejpz	Jan 11 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/IYkmP1mcn5	Jan 11 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oejq2	Jan 11 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/HLszMDxMqd	Jan 11 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oejq5	Jan 11 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/l4R3x1iUKt	Jan 11 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oejq6	Jan 11 18:05
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MinceR	https://code.google.com/p/google-security-research/issues/detail?id=693	Jan 11 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-code.google.com \| Issue 693 - google-security-research - TrendMicro node.js HTTP server listening on localhost can execute commands - Google Security Research - Google Project Hosting		Jan 11 19:25
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg	Jan 11 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/oek76 ]		Jan 11 19:59
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTqV1pnQoos	Jan 11 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Buffy Sainte Maire - "My country 'Tis Of Thy People You're Dying" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/oek7b ]		Jan 11 19:59
MinceR	my species 'tis of thy members you're dying out	Jan 11 20:01
msb_	US Conservatives hate this book! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States	Jan 11 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| A People's History of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/oek82 ]		Jan 11 20:01
msb_	MinceR: Not all members -- not you and not me. A small percentage of organized psychopaths are making war on everyone else.	Jan 11 20:04
MinceR	i didn't say "all", though	Jan 11 20:04
msb_	It's really only a few. But they have learned how to program many others.	Jan 11 20:05
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msb_	The existence of computer programming should make it easier for people to admit the existence of human programming. As computer experts, we should be able to help with this education.	Jan 11 20:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert/status/686618675605037061	Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@daithaigilbert: Camilla Long after Michael Jackson died https://t.co/c3yKOMjRrW and Camilla Long today https://t.co/147OvoO231 https://t.co/J39QIkCUU6		Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@camillalong: Listening to Earth Song. Weeping		Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@camillalong: So many people "crying" or "in bits" over Bowie. FUCK YOU. You are not ten - you are an adult. Man the fuck up and say something interesting		Jan 11 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@daithaigilbert: Camilla Long after Michael Jackson died https://t.co/c3yKOMjRrW and Camilla Long today https://t.co/147OvoO231 https://t.co/J39QIkCUU6		Jan 11 20:55
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 11 20:59
abeNd-org	hola	Jan 11 21:00
*TweetTuxMachines @stefanmathez favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/qCSdkY3OmP'		Jan 11 21:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review	Jan 11 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/98rbB9DEbu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MINIX NEO U1 Media Hub Review \| Tux Machines		Jan 11 21:15
abeNd-org	wtheck... as if email isnt spammy enough, now I am getting spam phone calls that look like they would be from down the street coming from india http://indiamobiletrace.com/9402222845.html	Jan 11 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indiamobiletrace.com \| Trace Results for 9402222845 Mobile		Jan 11 21:17
abeNd-org	voip is neat, but im getting 3-4 spam calls like this a day, getting to the point i don't even bother answering my phone unless it is a whitelist #	Jan 11 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project's Virtues Begin and End With	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	Stability https://t.co/oSL97HNwAv	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 21:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Firefox 43.0.4 Now Available for All	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/kscS1ulG8n	Jan 11 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 21:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Firefox 43.0.4 Now Available for All Ubuntu...'		Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Tango resurfaces in Lenovo and Intel	Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	phone designs https://t.co/ewtKM5O5YG	Jan 11 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Enter Final Freeze This	Jan 11 22:55
TweetTuxMachines	Friday, More New Features Landed	Jan 11 22:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WS21BaRY1V (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 11 22:55
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msb_	Too bad that abeNd-org ran off so quickly. I don't know if this anti-telemarketer system would work with his/her phone system, but it's been very effective with mine, reducing greedy psychopath calls from 3/day to 1/month. https://www.nomorobo.com/	Jan 11 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nomorobo.com \| Stop robocalls and telemarketers with Nomorobo		Jan 11 23:51
msb_	You set your phone account so incoming calls ring nomorobo's number as well as yours, and if it matches a POS in their database, they hang up the call after 0 or 1 ring. Very effective, and it's free!	Jan 11 23:54
msb_	It works on comcast voip phones and many others. Spread the word!	Jan 11 23:55
schestowitz	foss?	Jan 12 00:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/OvuDl58XUh (error)	Jan 12 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's unique about open source people	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q4tJrxYW9B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	Support, Media Controls in Task Manager	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0nZekzyIpG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Development https://t.co/jjYGdfwH5L	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Development \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Tizen in Devices https://t.co/owLhmj5zcw	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemlq	Jan 12 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Latest Tizen in Devices \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 10:02
msb_	cubexyz: "msb, looks like .mn was blocked off" Is the significance of this that it was one of the domains used by Pirate Bay? Well, they're using a new one. You're gonna live this: https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-switches-on-new-ms-domain-160107/	Jan 12 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| The Pirate Bay Switches on New .MS Domain - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/oempf ]		Jan 12 10:47
msb_	live-> love	Jan 12 10:47
msb_	torrentfreak is the place to go to find info on subjects like this	Jan 12 10:51
msb_	Even poor cancer-ridden Linux gets a mention: https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-industry-rhetoric-ignores-the-existence-of-linux-and-wikipedia-011016/	Jan 12 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Copyright Industry Rhetoric Ignores The Existence Of Linux And Wikipedia - TorrentFreak		Jan 12 10:58
msb_	This Rick Falkvinge seems to be questioning the very foundation of capitalism. How dare he question the economic system that comfortably puts 99% of the world's wealth in the hands of the richest 0.1% of the people (if you can call those "people").	Jan 12 11:03
msb_	All sorts of interesting ideas here: https://falkvinge.net/	Jan 12 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net \| Falkvinge on Infopolicy - Discussions on civil liberties and information policy		Jan 12 11:04
cubexyz	hail hydra :)	Jan 12 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/xVaxTDgqHM	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr1	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Distros For Newcomers	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p93XUOEeX9 (www.datamation.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr2	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| Best Linux Distros For Newcomers - Datamation		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Delayed Officially and Ubuntu Needs	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	Direction https://t.co/DW0x04FPaG (ostatic.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr5	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Fedora 24 Delayed Officially and Ubuntu Needs Direction		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #redhat looks back at #containers (a concept	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	which its former staff created)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uGcHiGo1dr (rhelblog.redhat.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr6	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhelblog.redhat.com \| Looking Back on Containers in 2015 – Red Hat Enterprise Linux Blog		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to Be	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	Named “Krypton”	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gsuo9GFmL2 (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr7	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to Be Named "Krypton"		Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Investigating Solus 1.0 https://t.co/zFvLTy39XF	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	(distrowatch.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr8	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Jan 12 11:09
cubexyz	can't see how they could stop numeric ip address(es)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Will Likely Ship With #Golang 1.6	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0EqInGoua9 (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemr9	Jan 12 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 24 Will Likely Ship With Golang 1.6 - Phoronix		Jan 12 11:09
msb_	Speaking of Linux, and in this case possibly noting an advantage of capitalism, I used to pay about $45 for a boxed set of SuSE Linux, shipped in from Germany, because it was so well crafted.	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 “Jarvis” Is the Last One, RCs	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	Will Soon Follow https://t.co/ZUtwQpNZlQ	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 "Jarvis" Is the Last One, RCs Will Soon Follow		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemra	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	Support for GTK3, Many Bugfixes	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WoFo8TZVtC (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrb	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with Support for GTK3, Many Bugfixes		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We Are The Dwarves, a real-time tactics game is	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	coming to Linux, and it looks awesome	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6NVGj02fBd (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrc	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| We Are The Dwarves, a real-time tactics game is coming to Linux, and it looks awesome \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Mini-STX motherboard and mini-PC pop up	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	at CES https://t.co/42WInTXGU8	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| First Mini-STX motherboard and mini-PC pop up at CES · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrd	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	Support, Media Controls in Task Manager	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/flNhQTxZCl (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemre	Jan 12 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support, Media Controls in Task Manager		Jan 12 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poll (ish): only one comment so far;	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Which Linux distribution do you use?	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QD2jl30VF9 (opensource.com)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrf	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@ebot70 Top hashtags for @tuxmachines: #android	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	#androidx86 #consoleos #containers #gnome	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hS9x3LOuv8 (www.redaelli.org)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemri	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redaelli.org \| EbotTwitter \| Matteo Redaelli		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Upcoming Features of #Fedora 24 Linux, the	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Alpha Build Arrives on March 1, 2016	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4soo9ZLiWL (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrj	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Upcoming Features of Fedora 24 Linux, the Alpha Build Arrives on March 1, 2016		Jan 12 11:11
msb_	I would gladly pay that much today for a well-supported up-to-date Linux distro whose maintainers swear that they will never adopt systemd.	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU Linux-libre, Free as in Freedo	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/in7bgHEcwS (www.fsfla.org)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrk	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org \| ::[FSFLA]:: GNU Linux-libre project		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GnuCash 2.6.11 Release - 2016-01-11	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jzSwo6WkZ8 (www.gnucash.org)	Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrm	Jan 12 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnucash.org \| Free Accounting Software \| GnuCash		Jan 12 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	2016 with Hundreds of New Features	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gH26yW9Qir (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrn	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in 2016 with Hundreds of New Features		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 years TeX Live in Debian	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQCnyraDOG (www.preining.info)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemro	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info \| 10 years TeX Live in Debian \|		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/imRqXGCMyE	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.seventeen.com)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrp	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seventeen.com \| 11 Things to Stop Saying to Android Users in 2016		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Samsung Z1 Tizen 2.4, Firmware Available	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	to Download – Z130HDDU0COL6	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RQERNuuPQA (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrq	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| First Samsung Z1 Tizen 2.4, Firmware Available to Download - Z130HDDU0COL6 - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside Cyanogenmod https://t.co/PctjKJ2ODa	Jan 12 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 12 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/inside-cyanogenmod/ )		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrr	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: “Note that you can write build system	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	implementations in Python or Vala now.”	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9VyfoHVYXe (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrt	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2016/01/12/build-panel/ )		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung confirms 2015 Smart TVs to get Tizen	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	OTA update, No evolution kit update needed	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aTre3UI1U8 (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemru	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung confirms 2015 Smart TVs to get Tizen OTA update, No evolution kit update needed - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 11:13
msb_	IOW, Death to Hydra!	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vertu slapped a #Bentley logo on a mediocre	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	#Android phone and called it new	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ef3kNjd54p (www.theverge.com)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrv	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Vertu slapped a Bentley logo on a mediocre Android phone and called it new \| The Verge		Jan 12 11:13
*TweetTuxMachines @DawnAda88778275 favourited 'Vertu slapped a #Bentley logo on a mediocre...'		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “The latest MirrorManager release (0.6.1) which	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	is active since 2015-12-17 in Fedora’s	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	infrastructure” https://t.co/PHHBWzTDtG	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(lisas.de)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemry	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lisas.de \| New MirrorManager2 features \| For external use only		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With Real	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	Life” #IoT #Tizen https://t.co/hHJjO2Io4H	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemrz	Jan 12 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With Real Life” #IoT #Tizen - Tizen Experts		Jan 12 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Won’t Make Moving to Android Any Easier	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/X0oo1f0mQE (fortune.com)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems3	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortune.com \| Apple Won't Make Moving to Android Any Easier - Fortune		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to stop pop-up ads on Android	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5u9qteih0Q (www.pcadvisor.co.uk)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems4	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| How to stop pop-up ads on Android - How-To - PC Advisor		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best new Android widgets (January 2016)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kMN3Pe1zSr (www.phonearena.com)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems5	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Best new Android widgets (January 2016)		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Stock: This Chart Shows Just How	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	Powerful #Android Is	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1UXmJrbJbM	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.profitconfidential.com)	Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems8	Jan 12 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.profitconfidential.com \| Google Stock: This Chart Shows Just How Powerful Android Is		Jan 12 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines TP-Link outs three Android smartphones - Neffos	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	C5L, C5, and C5 Max https://t.co/ZaTYLoxKmY	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gsmarena.com)	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oems9	Jan 12 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com \| TP-Link outs three Android smartphones - Neffos C5L, C5, and C5 Max - GSMArena.com news		Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A build of GNOME from scratch	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UZ9u6XDKO5 (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	“quite functional and fairly well integrated.”	Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsa	Jan 12 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/tvb/2016/01/11/a-build-of-gnome-from-scratch/ )		Jan 12 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU on Smartphones (part II)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1L5VAN8bf5 (cascardo.info)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsd	Jan 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cascardo.info \| GNU on Smartphones (part II)		Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GranitePhone interview details the only way to	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	make Android more secure	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rn1y0muZsT	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemse	Jan 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com \| GranitePhone interview details the only way to make Android more secure - Android Authority		Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines N for Nutella? Rumored Features for Android N	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	Appear https://t.co/4cbBJE3fS0	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsf	Jan 12 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| N for Nutella? Rumored Features for Android N Appear \| Androidheadlines.com		Jan 12 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux"	Jan 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nhKx5USSVL	Jan 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.maketecheasier.com)	Jan 12 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.maketecheasier.com/switch-windows-10-to-linux/ )		Jan 12 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemsu	Jan 12 11:18
*TweetTuxMachines @glanceclock favourited 'Internet of Things Is Now “In Sync With...'		Jan 12 11:18
cubexyz	I hate these articles that basically say Linux == Ubuntu	Jan 12 11:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	Years, Here's What's New	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qLxqj9EAzz (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtk	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in Years, Here's What's New		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Investigating Solus 1.0 https://t.co/E8JdsBmZI3	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtl	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Investigating Solus 1.0 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Reviewed, Arch Still Ahead, & Reasons to	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	Switch https://t.co/TcALrHX94b	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtn	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus Reviewed, Arch Still Ahead, & Reasons to Switch \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Distros For Newcomers	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JsFxOc39Mj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemto	Jan 12 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Linux Distros For Newcomers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux	Jan 12 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6pWVZp4TxS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemtp	Jan 12 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in	Jan 12 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	Years, Here's What's New	Jan 12 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y8FUrq2YRb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemul	Jan 12 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release in Years, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 11:45
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited '8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to...'		Jan 12 11:45
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited 'Best Linux Distros For Newcomers https://t.co/JsFxOc39Mj'		Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-Based Drones Upstage Other Mobile Gadgets	Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	at CES https://t.co/OE4NoFwD4M (www.linux.com)	Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemw0	Jan 12 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux-Based Drones Upstage Other Mobile Gadgets at CES \| Linux.com		Jan 12 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cgroup v2 Is To Be Made Official With Linux 4.5	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PBsGkPsxAK (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemws	Jan 12 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Cgroup v2 Is To Be Made Official With Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Knights Landing Perf Support Comes To	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/XttqSzfi6d	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemwt	Jan 12 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Intel Knights Landing Perf Support Comes To Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Neat drm/i915 stuff for 4.5	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NhKAqNqYJ4 (blog.ffwll.ch)	Jan 12 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oemwu	Jan 12 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ffwll.ch \| stuff by danvet: Neat drm/i915 stuff for 4.5		Jan 12 12:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/686892966326059008	Jan 12 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: LOL! That's why I want to switch my infra to @ibmpowerLinux / @IBMPowerSystems #POWER-based computing. #GNU/#Linux https://t.co/8SUKVFlDke		Jan 12 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel Skylake bug causes PCs to freeze during complex workloads https://t.co/g09ko8a6yj #intel is rubbish. https://t.co/KLQfuCTQKm		Jan 12 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines With Skylake Out, It's Becoming Easier To Build	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	A Cheap Haswell Xeon Linux System	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Wc6GgNVlyx (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen1l	Jan 12 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| With Skylake Out, It's Becoming Easier To Build A Cheap Haswell Xeon Linux System - Phoronix		Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	Plans https://t.co/VqJunVoN63 (techrights.org)	Jan 12 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24 Plans \| Techrights		Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/7YAMmtrpul	Jan 12 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:02
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 12/1/2016: Solus 1.0 Reviews, Fedora 24 Plans...'		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/U5QMMWYOHe	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/C5wNAPVXnw	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Kernel https://t.co/gfeUIxhvGw	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Kernel \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/alr7nvzyes	Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq	Jan 12 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oen4m	Jan 12 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/7YAMmtrpul'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support,...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 17 Free and Open-Source Media Center to...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 16.0 Beta 5 “Jarvis” Is the Last...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Synaptic Package Manager 0.83 Arrives with Support for...'		Jan 12 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 to Feature Unity Launcher Support,...'		Jan 12 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Upcoming Features of #Fedora 24 Linux, the Alpha...'		Jan 12 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ardour 4.6 Open Source DAW Software Lands in...'		Jan 12 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Be the Best Release...'		Jan 12 13:50
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq'		Jan 12 13:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/686907231678390273	Jan 12 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Kai Uwe says the focus for Plasma 5.6 was on removing obstacles in the way between u and your tasks, getting in ur way less :)		Jan 12 13:59
schestowitz	performance there was my main issue/barrier	Jan 12 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/knmVI5VNQq	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@The_Code_Shirts	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oendw	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fpDWY3XxG5 (www.zdnet.com)	Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oendx	Jan 12 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4 \| ZDNet		Jan 12 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Project Fi and replacement phones: Android	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	could learn from Fedora…	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rtws8MfIrz (dissociatedpress.net)	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenff	Jan 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'dissociatedpress.net' ( status 0 @ http://dissociatedpress.net/project-fi-and-replacement-phones-android-could-learn-from-fedora/ )		Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another European conference about #freesw and	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux: "I put together desktop, Fedora, and	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	CentOS tracks" https://t.co/y9wLyxE2Pb	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	(eischmann.wordpress.com)	Jan 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com \| Schedule of DevConf.cz 2016 is out! \| Brno's hat		Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenfg	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Reasons Why Ubuntu Is Killing It In The	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud https://t.co/mJ53lxY2eL (www.forbes.com)	Jan 12 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenfh	Jan 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Forbes Welcome		Jan 12 15:05
schestowitz	>> ... is the defeat of SCADA	Jan 12 15:12
schestowitz	>> > systems by way of a multiphased attack — not unlike Stuxnet. Hmm…	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> I know someone who worked / works with water processing. Last time I	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> spoke with him, which was some time ago, he refused to have anything to	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> do with putting the systems on the Internet in any way shape or form.	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> Unfortunately I recently saw an old shodan screenshot of some hydro	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> system with a UI in his language, so less intelligent minds are getting	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	> their way.	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	I don't know if SCADA always runs on Windows.	Jan 12 15:13
schestowitz	http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/12/messi-is-an-extraterrestrial/	Jan 12 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org \| Messi Is an Extraterrestrial		Jan 12 15:15
schestowitz	OT	Jan 12 15:15
schestowitz	"Many claim that Messi is the result of Pep Guardiola’s teachings in Barcelona. They seem to forget that as a child, in Argentina, Messi was already a brilliant player. Ernesto Vecchio, a coach from his youth, said, “As a player, he is very similar now to how he was as a youngster.” He added, “He decides in milliseconds what he is going to do with the ball at his feet.”	Jan 12 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat’s #Ansible 2.0 brings new power to	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	devops https://t.co/FJi2avwNQV	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Jan 12 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Red Hat's Ansible 2.0 brings new power to devops \| InfoWorld		Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenit	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Debian Developers and Maintainers (November	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	and December 2015) https://t.co/WL62D2C4HM	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	(bits.debian.org)	Jan 12 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/01/new-developers-2015-12.html )		Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RemixOS Brings Desktop-Style Android to	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	Intel-Based PCs https://t.co/70qNXTk4rK	Jan 12 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	(lifehacker.com)	Jan 12 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| RemixOS Brings Desktop-Style Android to Intel-Based PCs		Jan 12 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Homefront: The Revolution aiming for a day-1	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	Linux & SteamOS release on May 20th	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/evHdV9jnmM (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 12 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Homefront: The Revolution aiming for a day-1 Linux & SteamOS release on May 20th \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Remix OS Is Bringing Android To Old x86 PC	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	(And Mac) For Free https://t.co/lhozxyVGus	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jan 12 15:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| How To Run Android On Any Old x86 PC (and Mac) For Free With Remix OS		Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/65bFk0a1kT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 12 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenkl	Jan 12 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9		Jan 12 15:36
msb_	A most wonderful movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2361509/combined	Jan 12 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Intern (2015/I)		Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best	Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Release In Years?	Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gkcmr1I7t0 (fossbytes.com)	Jan 12 15:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best Ubuntu Release In Years?		Jan 12 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Developers Preparing For PHP 7.0 In	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Stretch https://t.co/9EMnwu7Dng	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenlk	Jan 12 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Developers Preparing For PHP 7.0 In Stretch - Phoronix		Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/EObxkhwCEj	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenll	Jan 12 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 15:48
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oiaohm	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpG40WiEfM What is happening with cgroups with cgroup v2 is partly why I have been willing to let systemd go. History of development of many things in the Linux world follow the patten of implment every feature then reimplment with restrictions that works.	Jan 12 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| NYLUG Presents: Tejun Heo on cgroups and cgroups v2 (Feb 18th, 2015) - YouTube		Jan 12 16:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sljc3039/status/686945627440168961	Jan 12 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	"	Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	4 minutes ago	Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	@schestowitz @FOSSpatents have loved your blog, but I must say your blog today was way out. Trump is a bigoted racist, not the 2nd coming	Jan 12 16:23
schestowitz	"	Jan 12 16:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'What's New in Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 https://t.co/65bFk0a1kT'		Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM targets flexible mainframes with open	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	source golang on z Systems	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Nriy2b0Fu (www.cbronline.com)	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JDFPXIu1yj (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrq	Jan 12 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com \| IBM targets flexible mainframes with open source golang on z Systems - Computer Business Review		Jan 12 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| All Systems z are Go: IBM ports Google language to mainframes • The Register		Jan 12 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.5 https://t.co/8ahScVwIZE	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrr	Jan 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Next-Gen Media Controller Support Going Into Linux 4.5 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/rqoi7wCyzr	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenrv	Jan 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM and Golang https://t.co/QcIMa55gJc	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenry	Jan 12 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IBM and Golang \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Telegram 0.9.18 Released With Some Improvements	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	And Bug Fixes https://t.co/raMeYkjFxO	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuh	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Telegram 0.9.18 Released With Some Improvements And Bug Fixes \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/MgBN535J0S	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenui	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/Z4KZfPPpWA (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuj	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| A 10-Way Linux Distribution Battle To Kick Off 2016 - Phoronix		Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived https://t.co/v98cOlAOBD	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ansible.com)	Jan 12 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oenuk	Jan 12 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ansible.com \| Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived		Jan 12 16:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6958386	Jan 12 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poll (ish): only one comment so far; Which Linux distribution do you use? https://opensource.com/life/16/1/which-linux-distribution-do-you-use #gnu #linux		Jan 12 17:48
schestowitz	"The best one. Frosty Goat Linux!"	Jan 12 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com		Jan 12 17:48
schestowitz	Never heard of it	Jan 12 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJ46JUXHGA (error)	Jan 12 18:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Transform Your Ubuntu Into Windows 10 Look With	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	These GTK Themes https://t.co/dAW7J4eNFA	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeo5c	Jan 12 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 12 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Transform Your Ubuntu Into Windows 10 Look With These GTK Themes \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 18:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived https://t.co/h5Hah02Uv4	Jan 12 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov0	Jan 12 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ansible 2.0 Has Arrived \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mPB213JKD6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov1	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KVM Changes Prepped For Linux 4.5 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged wireless-ready box-PC runs Linux on	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Cortex-A9 https://t.co/Yn36pyVP4H	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov2	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rugged wireless-ready box-PC runs Linux on Cortex-A9 \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Linux won without winning	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CEmltKKG6U (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov3	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How Linux won without winning \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Drupal Hardens Its Security in Response to	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Criticism https://t.co/2osCukEs7p	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeov4	Jan 12 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Drupal Hardens Its Security in Response to Criticism \| Tux Machines		Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Applications 15.12.1 Lands with More Than	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	30 Bugfixes Across All Apps	Jan 12 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Rdya9nASb9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 12 21:11
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msb_	schestowitz: This anti-Linux article -- touted in tuxmachines -- uses the term "[Linux] zealot" twice, and says, "Linux as a desktop OS remains a hobbyist, Tinkertoy-style platform, for people who don't want to run commercial apps but command-line everything". -- http://www.infoworld.com/article/3019852/linux/how-linux-won-without-winning.html	Jan 12 21:44
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msb_	"Linux blew its chance to be a mainstream desktop OS when it failed to offer a usable version for regular people"	Jan 12 21:45
MinceR	as expected from IDG	Jan 12 21:46
schestowitz	an apple booster in this case	Jan 12 21:50
schestowitz	it's rianne's choice	Jan 12 21:50
schestowitz	I warned her this write is an arse	Jan 12 21:50
schestowitz	she posted it anyway	Jan 12 21:50
msb_	The tuxmachines post should have a warning.	Jan 12 21:52
msb_	Good Lord man, can't you keep your woman under control? 8^)	Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz	he doesn't know android uses linux	Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz	" You rarely see Linux when you boot your computer or turn on your smartphone, but the truth is Linux is everywhere"	Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz	Right, only 85% of phones run linux	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	but an apple zealot won't mention that	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	anyway, that's IDG for you	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	they actually have some MS staff (present) as writers	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	and some MS MVPs too	Jan 12 21:54
schestowitz	idg is not a news source. It's a sort of corporate cancer masquerading as a news network and setting trends based on sponsors ($)	Jan 12 21:55
schestowitz	When #apple zealots call #freesw proponents "zealots" and fail to note that #android runs #linux we know only #idg is crap enough to hire them	Jan 12 21:55
schestowitz	I guess I'll write something about this later on	Jan 12 21:55
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cubexyz	infoworld?	Jan 12 22:53
cubexyz	well whatever, people want off the microsoft crap	Jan 12 22:58
cubexyz	and making windows 10 a 'service' means there's no snapshot to load from	Jan 12 23:15
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	I have an article about this on the way	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	though I try not to lose too much time bashing Vista 10, there are more serious issues	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	and even MS boosters started attacking Vista 10	Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz	they don't want it, they're not happy with it being imposed	Jan 12 23:23
schestowitz	and older versions getting abandoned, no support	Jan 12 23:23
schestowitz	maybe they'll just decide to move to "Mac" PC or GNU/Linux	Jan 12 23:23
oiaohm	The reality is Android does not use X11. The biggest thing that has kept on holding the Linux Desktop back as soon as you suggest it some looking into security faults hello X11 swiss cheese.	Jan 12 23:48
oiaohm	Also the multi gpu issue that came from vendors on Linux not wanting todo cooperative stacks either.	Jan 12 23:49
oiaohm	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta the first time closed source nvidia drivers not designed to replace core parts of Opengl stack on Linux yes it took until 2016 for this to turn up.	Jan 12 23:51
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cubexyz	wow, some folks are actually listening to my audio blog on ancient Unix	Jan 13 00:16
cubexyz	guess someone linked to it	Jan 13 00:16
cubexyz	people have such short attention spans these days	Jan 13 00:17
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cubexyz	ok, is there any reason to run android on a PC?	Jan 13 09:30
oiaohm	msb_: I guess you have never trained using a batton to know where you aim to hit and where you in fact hit is dependant not only on your action but the action of the person targeted heck the person targeted may not be the person hit. So percentage of error so any police action using battons you expect so many head hits.	Jan 13 09:31
msb_	You are one sick fuck.	Jan 13 09:31
oiaohm	: Not at all I have truly done hand to hand combat training and know the law. By the way police targeting your sholder to induce pain and hit you in head is not attempted murder at worst if person dues is accidental homicide.	Jan 13 09:34
oiaohm	dues/dies	Jan 13 09:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: familiarity would be a reason for android on PC they use it on phone/tablet.	Jan 13 09:36
oiaohm	msb_: police have very limited weapons for crowd control most can induce death. Tear gas, shield, batons, even bar hands can all induce death. How many strikes does it take to kill a person with a baton if you are indenting to. The answer is 1. Correct place hit is death in 30 seconds.	Jan 13 09:39
cubexyz	oiaohm, I can think of many better ways to stop people without using a baton	Jan 13 09:40
oiaohm	msb_: zero deaths before medical treatment alone tells you the police were not aiming to kill.	Jan 13 09:40
cubexyz	there was immobilizing foam for one	Jan 13 09:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: immobilizing foam has a higher kill rate than batons.	Jan 13 09:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: its why its not used more.	Jan 13 09:41
cubexyz	how could foam kill anyone?	Jan 13 09:41
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oiaohm	cubexyz: if you breath it in the stuff can block your lungs.	Jan 13 09:42
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oiaohm	cubexyz: lot faster death than a bleed on brain.	Jan 13 09:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: the mistake with immobilizing foam was found out by police policy that police have to experience containment tech used on themselves. Cost 4 police officers in training in one session.	Jan 13 09:44
cubexyz	sticky foam seems to be the most used term	Jan 13 09:46
cubexyz	yes, I see the risk of suffocation	Jan 13 09:46
oiaohm	suffocation is a very quick to fatal.	Jan 13 09:47
cubexyz	oiaohm, it still seems that police are killing people unnecessarily	Jan 13 09:47
cubexyz	especially people on the fringe, mentally ill, homeless, teenagers etc	Jan 13 09:48
msb_	Tabulation for oiaohm: 1. systemd is necessary and good for Linux 2. cannabis is dangerous (despite the fact that people titrate to effect) 3. blunt head trauma is the best way for police to control crowds. WTF do we have here?	Jan 13 09:48
cubexyz	I don't think he actually said that about systemd	Jan 13 09:49
oiaohm	msb_: again you miss quote me on number 1.	Jan 13 09:50
msb_	He has in fact stated many claims that systemd corrects important problems in Linux.	Jan 13 09:50
oiaohm	I said that systemd was necessary to happen for the good for Linux. Because time had not been spent planing out how Linux systems should boot.	Jan 13 09:50
oiaohm	Now I expect systemd to be like cgroup v1 vs cgroup v2	Jan 13 09:51
msb_	QED	Jan 13 09:51
cubexyz	oiaohm, why don't you check what the stock exchanges use? I bet they aren't using systemd	Jan 13 09:51
cubexyz	if anyone wants reliability it's the stock exchange	Jan 13 09:51
cubexyz	they were using AIX, HP-UX and Solaris before	Jan 13 09:53
oiaohm	msb_: number 2 like it or not the medical data on cannabis exists. The chemical you where pushing was the documented harmful. I in fact quoted documents on the techical mert of a particular chemical in the non get high stuff.	Jan 13 09:53
oiaohm	msb_: so on cannabis you had your facts wrong.	Jan 13 09:54
oiaohm	msb_: like it or not crowd control is a risky business no matter how you do it someone will get hurt.	Jan 13 09:55
cubexyz	many many people have spoke out against systemd, it's not just one or two disgruntled greybeards	Jan 13 09:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: many people may have spoke out against systemd but its funny how many of the arguements were in fact blaming systemd for issues that happened under sysvinit anyhow.	Jan 13 09:56
oiaohm	cubexyz: many people were also upset with sysvinit as well.	Jan 13 09:57
cubexyz	I don't have any problems with sysvinit	Jan 13 09:58
cubexyz	and I've been running it a long time	Jan 13 09:58
oiaohm	cubexyz: systemd is following the cgroup v1 design model of just keep on adding features. Now after cgroup v1 tried every path they are now rebuilding cgroup v2 based on what they learnt from v1	Jan 13 09:58
cubexyz	I don't use cgroups	Jan 13 09:59
oiaohm	cubexyz: do you run multi partition setups with separate /var to /	Jan 13 09:59
cubexyz	no, it's the same partition	Jan 13 10:00
oiaohm	Ok then you are fine if you had answered yes there is a bug there that systemd addresses by adding a x-initrd.mount flag to fstab to make intrd load extra partitions while still in the ram drive.	Jan 13 10:01
cubexyz	on FC1 (server) / and /var are on the same partition	Jan 13 10:01
oiaohm	cubexyz: have you ever seen a dead.letter file	Jan 13 10:01
cubexyz	on openbsd / and /var are separate partitions	Jan 13 10:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: do you know what /dead.letter if you see it means.	Jan 13 10:02
cubexyz	I haven't seen a dead.letter file in a long time	Jan 13 10:03
oiaohm	failed harddrive.	Jan 13 10:04
cubexyz	I think it happens if you try to send mail and it failed	Jan 13 10:04
oiaohm	/dead.letter is a file that is auto created in case of harddrive failure.	Jan 13 10:04
oiaohm	Of course that is no use if / is still in state read only.	Jan 13 10:05
oiaohm	This is where sysvinit partion mounting comes apart big time.	Jan 13 10:05
cubexyz	oiaohm, I think you need to read man mail :)	Jan 13 10:05
cubexyz	I have no recollection of dead.letter being used to mean a failed hard drive ever	Jan 13 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snapper: SUSE's Ultimate Btrfs Snapshot Manager	Jan 13 10:07
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oiaohm	cubexyz: its one of the trick questions.	Jan 13 10:07
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oiaohm	/dead.letter is not in your home directory	Jan 13 10:07
oiaohm	In your home directory you are right its mail.	Jan 13 10:07
cubexyz	can you cite some documentation for this?	Jan 13 10:08
cubexyz	I can see when it first appeared: in Unix v6 mail.c	Jan 13 10:11
oiaohm	cubexyz: to be correct it is and is not mail. System error happens before system has mail system up. Application attempt to email. No users maps are active this include /root user. Result messages in /dead.letter	Jan 13 10:11
oiaohm	cubexyz: most common item to find in /dead.letter is of course drive failures.	Jan 13 10:12
cubexyz	a good operator should be watching dmesg and doing regular fsck so that if the drive starts to fail they wouldn't be caught unawares	Jan 13 10:13
cubexyz	there should be some warning, I don't usually see drives immediately although it is possible	Jan 13 10:13
oiaohm	More details on the failure can be in fact send to /dead.letter than what was recorded in dmesg	Jan 13 10:13
oiaohm	So when you are mounting your core partitions you want /dead.letter location if possible writable and extractable if need.	Jan 13 10:14
cubexyz	if it's all on one drive and it fails it's backup time	Jan 13 10:14
oiaohm	cubexyz: maybe if message is failing heads time to take drive to data recovery firm before doing anything else.	Jan 13 10:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: basically core boot up order has been wrong for a very long time.	Jan 13 10:16
cubexyz	updatedb errors should tell you if the drive is going bad	Jan 13 10:16
cubexyz	I think that looks at the whole filesystem	Jan 13 10:16
cubexyz	there's a lot of info in root's mail and most of the time I don't usually look at it	Jan 13 10:17
cubexyz	but I do pay attention to dmesg	Jan 13 10:17
oiaohm	cubexyz: please note /dead.letter messages happen when root user does not recieve the mail.	Jan 13 10:18
oiaohm	at least under sysvinit.	Jan 13 10:18
cubexyz	critical files are backed up once a day to a different hard drive on a different computer	Jan 13 10:18
oiaohm	Journald was in fact design to go and pick up the /dead.letter and attempt to deliver it after the fact.	Jan 13 10:18
oiaohm	Something I have not understood is why syslogs solutions don't go and pick it up.	Jan 13 10:19
msb_	oiaohm's corporate psychopath claims are contradicted by _reality_. 1. Linux has been in use for 25 years in 100 million or more installations and has worked fine with sysvinit; any problems are very infrequent and easy to correct due to good Unix engineering practices. 2. During the 1960s hundreds of millions of people smoked cannabis in the US; nobody suffered ill effects unless they smoked far too much, in which case all they	Jan 13 10:19
msb_	suffered was a few hours of anxiety; while cannabis today may be stronger, people smoke correspondingly less. They smoke until they get the effect they desire (titrate to effect). 3. There are many non-lethal methods of crowd control: firehoses, tear gas, batons used anywhere _except_ the head, neck, spine. oiaohm is a lying sack of shit.	Jan 13 10:19
oiaohm	msb_: batons people trip and people get pushed. You aim for the correct place you don't always hit there.	Jan 13 10:21
cubexyz	surely the police don't aim for the head?	Jan 13 10:21
cubexyz	but clearly they must hit the head in some cases	Jan 13 10:21
oiaohm	msb_: people have died due tear gas and firehoses.	Jan 13 10:21
oiaohm	msb_: at a higher rate than using batons and shields.	Jan 13 10:21
cubexyz	Kelly Thomas is the most prominent example	Jan 13 10:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: a shock tap to the head is aimed at the jaw.	Jan 13 10:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: now if you miss that strike big problems.	Jan 13 10:23
cubexyz	oiaohm, are you familiar with this case:	Jan 13 10:24
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas	Jan 13 10:24
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I am familiar with the differerent combat strikes that are meant to be used.	Jan 13 10:24
cubexyz	some of the police are morphing into a quasi-military thug-like group	Jan 13 10:25
cubexyz	I think that's what people are worried about	Jan 13 10:26
oiaohm	cubexyz: the problem is the gap between containment and excessive force is not much. Quality of training is very important something USA police are not known for.	Jan 13 10:27
oiaohm	Just throwing a person to ground can a look absolutely identical and 1 be excessive force and 1 be perfectly fine the difference is speed of move and the resulting speed of impact with ground.	Jan 13 10:29
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oiaohm	cubexyz: to me the Kelly Thomas damage reads like poorly trained Police attempting todo a containment on a unwilling person.	Jan 13 10:32
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oiaohm	cubexyz: really who ever was responsible for those Police officers training should have been pulled into court. Of course this never happens in civilian courts where in cases like this in mils it happens.	Jan 13 10:33
msb_	The fundamental problem with representative "democracy" is that there are enough layers between the voters and the elected rulers that wealthy psychopaths can get in and gain control by bribery or threats. That leaves protests as the only way that people can try to control the government. But now protests are being defined as "terrorism", punishable by death.	Jan 13 10:33
oiaohm	msb_: I would not say protests are the only way. Stunts the yes men pulled show there was at least 1 other way.	Jan 13 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Got Marshmallow? 6 cool things to try with	Jan 13 10:37
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msb_	Note the Kent State massacre. It was no accident. People heard the orders given to the soldiers.	Jan 13 10:38
msb_	It was very important in ending the Woodstock Nation.	Jan 13 10:41
oiaohm	msb_: with cannabis today with the strongest plants one breath in is overdoeses on THC. The issue with cannabis is as THC level goes up protective CBD goes down. So basically toxicity problem.	Jan 13 10:41
oiaohm	msb_: so stronger does not mean person will have a chance to smoke less. Stronger means possiblity of instant overdoes.	Jan 13 10:42
msb_	It's easy to smoke less. Simply pull in less air thru the cigarette, more air around it.	Jan 13 10:43
msb_	If one does OD, the only bad effect is a few hours of anxiety.	Jan 13 10:44
oiaohm	msb_: the ratio out.	Jan 13 10:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google announces I/O 2016, and it’s high time	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	to fix Android tablet apps	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NJcuFYYmEN (www.extremetech.com)	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerkp	Jan 13 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com \| Google announces I/O 2016, and it’s high time to fix Android tablet apps \| ExtremeTech		Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samba 4.3.4 Has Been Released for GNU/Linux and	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Mac OS X, Fixes 14 Bugs https://t.co/ooftXvpCL9	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerkq	Jan 13 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Samba 4.3.4 Has Been Released for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X, Fixes 14 Bugs		Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Receive a Big QtMir	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Update, New Trust Store, More	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/28PTkULK13 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerkr	Jan 13 11:01
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oiaohm	msb_: so claiming your friends don't notice the lost memory would be nothing strange. Does not change the way the chemical work on human body.	Jan 13 11:01
oiaohm	msb_: CBD also suppresses addition. So able to reduce CBD means dealer at times can move more product due to person craving more. This is why smoke less theory also does not hold. To be able to smoke less is also dependent on the ratio remaining correct.	Jan 13 11:05
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msb_	Cannabis is not addictive. Tell us your name, psychopath.	Jan 13 11:08
oiaohm	msb_: http://drug.addictionblog.org/is-thc-addictive/	Jan 13 11:09
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oiaohm	msb_: THC is addictive like it or not.	Jan 13 11:09
oiaohm	msb_: correct ratio Cannabis is not addictive because it has enough CBD to counter this problem.	Jan 13 11:10
oiaohm	msb_: basically there is safe Cannabis and unsafe Cannabis. So blanket statements that Cannabis is addictive or not addictive is both lies.	Jan 13 11:11
oiaohm	msb_: Cannabis safety is all about the ratio of active chemicals.	Jan 13 11:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960210	Jan 13 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best tools for open source web development https://www.whatech.com/open-source/blog/121366-what-are-the-best-tools-for-open-source-web-development sort of weak, also a kind of press release. http://blog.cihar.com/archives/2016/01/12/weekly-phpmyadmin-contributions/?utm_source=rss2 #freesw		Jan 13 11:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 to Receive a Big QtMir...'		Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cutegram 2.7.1 Out Now, Work Starts for	Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	Cutegram 3, the Best Telegram Client for Linux	Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/d73xv4a2up (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerlx	Jan 13 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Cutegram 2.7.1 Out Now, Work Starts on Cutegram 3, the Best Telegram Client for Linux		Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Looks Like #XOrg Might Be Safe For A Few	Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	More Years https://t.co/R4AO48gVgL	Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) Michael means the domain,	Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	not the project	Jan 13 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| It Looks Like X.Org Might Be Safe For A Few More Years - Phoronix		Jan 13 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerly	Jan 13 11:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687185421332262912	Jan 13 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest don't know will ask...		Jan 13 11:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.5 Input Updates Bring Changes Even For	Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	PS/2 Mice https://t.co/Mvu4O5Sv6u	Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oern3	Jan 13 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Linux 4.5 Input Updates Bring Changes Even For PS/2 Mice - Phoronix		Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cordova Ubuntu 4.3.2 Brings the Apache Cordova	Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	Project to Ubuntu Linux https://t.co/KeaDz3dwuj	Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oern4	Jan 13 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Cordova Ubuntu 4.3.2 Brings the Apache Cordova Project to Ubuntu Linux		Jan 13 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The one glitch in Canonical's convergence plan	Jan 13 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/f1KhOyEON6 (www.techrepublic.com)	Jan 13 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	#ubuntu #canonical	Jan 13 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oern5	Jan 13 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| The one glitch in Canonical's convergence plan - TechRepublic		Jan 13 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The most exciting Linux and open source	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	Kickstarter projects of 2016 (so far)	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v3yMiSkie1 (www.cio.com)	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oernx	Jan 13 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cio.com \| The most exciting Linux and open source Kickstarter projects of 2016 (so far) \| CIO		Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Calendar Just Landed in Ubuntu 16.04	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	Daily Build https://t.co/a30t7epCYt	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerny	Jan 13 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Calendar Just Landed in Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build		Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e7HKLo87PZ (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oernz	Jan 13 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint		Jan 13 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Gnome 15.12 released	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MwnUaSoo7j (manjaro.github.io)	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oero8	Jan 13 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io \| Manjaro Gnome 15.12 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity		Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Configuring Linux for music recording and	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	production https://t.co/ceNRNeofeO	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oero9	Jan 13 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Configuring Linux for music recording and production \| Opensource.com		Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@ebot70 Top hashtags for @tuxmachines: #android #linux	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	#apple #gnu #androidx86 https://t.co/hS9x3LOuv8	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.redaelli.org)	Jan 13 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeroa	Jan 13 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redaelli.org \| EbotTwitter \| Matteo Redaelli		Jan 13 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SODIMM-style COM runs Linux on Atmel SAMA5D4x	Jan 13 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Tg0kYo0csN (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 13 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerpo	Jan 13 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| SODIMM-style COM runs Linux on Atmel SAMA5D4x · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 13 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Fedora 23 Updated Lives Available!	Jan 13 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KcGES0NuN8	Jan 13 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxmodder.wordpress.com)	Jan 13 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerpp	Jan 13 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com \| First Fedora 23 Updated Lives Available! \| Linux-modder's Tech Corner		Jan 13 11:45
*TweetTuxMachines @RiCHi favourited '#apple nervous? https://t.co/9xSG1rmgwJ https://t.co/zNasNJjmj2 "carriers are forcing the...'		Jan 13 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net \| Apple Denies Working on Tool to Make iPhone-to-Android Switch Easier \| Re/code		Jan 13 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com \| Apple Denies It's Working On iPhone-To-Android Migration Tool		Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	@RiCHi @schestowitz @tuxmachines thanks for sharing my	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	@Computerworld foolishness! For more #ITBW:	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xFmmNwlkBh (plus.google.com)	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerqm	Jan 13 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus.google.com \| Google Profiles		Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Brief Guide to Alternatives to Windows: 2016	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	Edition https://t.co/1yQnsZmn57	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	(cubexyz.blogspot.com)	Jan 13 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerqn	Jan 13 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com \| Notes on Linux: A Brief Guide to Alternatives to Windows: 2016 Edition		Jan 13 11:51
schestowitz	"That’s because of the great DistroWatch Conspiracy™! 2016 is the year of the FGL desktop!"	Jan 13 11:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6958386	Jan 13 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poll (ish): only one comment so far; Which Linux distribution do you use? https://opensource.com/life/16/1/which-linux-distribution-do-you-use #gnu #linux		Jan 13 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com \| Which Linux distribution do you use most frequently? \| Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/oemab ]		Jan 13 11:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ACPI & Power Management Updates For Linux 4.5	Jan 13 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tYHw6Y67Ei (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 13 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerro	Jan 13 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| ACPI & Power Management Updates For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 13 11:58
*TweetTuxMachines @atlantatech favourited 'A Brief Guide to Alternatives to Windows: 2016...'		Jan 13 11:58
schestowitz	> "Linux as a desktop OS remains a hobbyist, Tinkertoy-style platform,	Jan 13 12:04
schestowitz	> for people who don't want to run commercial apps but command-line	Jan 13 12:04
schestowitz	> everything. "	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	>	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> x	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3019852/linux/how-linux-won-without-winning.html	Jan 13 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| How Linux won without winning \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oersh ]		Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	>	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	> bullshit	Jan 13 12:05
schestowitz	yes, saw that...	Jan 13 12:05
cubexyz	well they may have meant the tinkertoy reference to be an insult, but tinkertoys have been around for over 100 years and still going strong :)	Jan 13 12:11
XRevan86	Windows as a desktop OS remains a Tinkertoy-style platform, for people who don't want to run serious CLI applications but play games.	Jan 13 12:12
msb_	Tinkertoys and Erector Set are both wonderful educational systems that enable kids to build all sorts of things that they can imagine. Both are still available.	Jan 13 12:32
msb_	Combine them with a Raspberry-Pi or some other cheap IoT SBC and wowie!	Jan 13 12:33
msb_	If you hear a clap of thunder and run up to your kid's room and they're not there, they've probably built a warp drive. But it's likely they'll be back.	Jan 13 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Blackphone2 review (2)	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1dDdQIyMAi (www.version2.dk) "Not	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	Private By Design"	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerwy	Jan 13 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.version2.dk \| Blackphone2 review (2) \| Version2		Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "In just a year after the open-source Dronecode	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	effort launched, its membership has taken off"	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tjra8uU5P0 (www.eweek.com)	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerx0	Jan 13 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Linux Foundation Moves Dronecode Project Forward		Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Ansible 2.0: a 'playbook' for agentless	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	automation https://t.co/VHoOAoxJB4	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerx1	Jan 13 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| Red Hat Ansible 2.0: a 'playbook' for agentless automation - Open Source Insider		Jan 13 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	Upgrades More Robust https://t.co/eGg0CF6gNg	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerxv	Jan 13 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ownCloud Developers Are Planning on Making the Upgrades More Robust \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OLnDoifBAp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oerxy	Jan 13 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for Ubuntu, Debian, and Linux Mint \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Configuring Linux for music recording and	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	production https://t.co/if7B37hhJP	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 12:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oery0	Jan 13 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Configuring Linux for music recording and production \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 12:44
msb_	There's a wonderful movie about kids who build a spaceship -- from information they get in dreams! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089114/combined	Jan 13 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Explorers (1985)		Jan 13 12:46
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DinoFancellu/status/687306153752195072	Jan 13 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DinoFancellu: @WeiDeLi14 @schestowitz Ditto. I received nothing. No replies to support tweets. And can't try again, says I did it recently (last friday)		Jan 13 16:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DinoFancellu/status/687306153752195072	Jan 13 16:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687239683592597504	Jan 13 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch @fosdem @mariobehling will you come?		Jan 13 16:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/687314155695640576	Jan 13 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: Old news: irrelevant techsite Webwereld + parent company IDG are up for sale https://t.co/oLUcPKGCse https://t.co/ygloZBWgbs #dyingmedia		Jan 13 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fortune.com \| IDG Puts Itself on the Block - Fortune		Jan 13 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| IDC - Techrights		Jan 13 16:46
schestowitz	http://www.presseportal.de/pm/78009/3223963	Jan 13 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presseportal.de \| Patentverein.de kritisiert das geplante EU-Patent-Regelwerk als mittelstandsfeindlich / Verband ruft zu wachsamer Begleitung vor Ratifizierung im Parlament auf \| Pressemitteilung Patentverein.de e.V.		Jan 13 16:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PatentWire/status/687271521232932865	Jan 13 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PatentWire: Patentverein.de kritisiert das geplante EU-Patent-Regelwerk als ... - Presseportal.de (Pressemitteilung) (16 visits) https://t.co/vMAXFSECZo		Jan 13 16:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687315888006119424	Jan 13 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz yes it is. apologies. Was a late nite		Jan 13 16:58
schestowitz	it's annoying when it happens (wrong name of similar). Happened to me too.	Jan 13 16:59
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS Is Unofficially Available for...'		Jan 13 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution	Jan 13 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2	Jan 13 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/I8T0Wv2aQc (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oet2f	Jan 13 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2		Jan 13 17:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/stonehead/status/687318359671738369	Jan 13 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stonehead: @schestowitz I have read their Dutch sites for years, and I wouldn't dare say those were systematically biased - more following the market		Jan 13 17:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gigabarb/status/687325060202381312	Jan 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gigabarb: @schestowitz well ed should have caught it but original error was mine. rule is don't write tired.		Jan 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T Will Deploy Canonical's Ubuntu Linux for	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud and Networking https://t.co/0xZzWpDgoO	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com) https://t.co/Yz9rwHrIM4	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| AT&T Will Deploy Canonical's Ubuntu Linux for Cloud and Networking \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oet99	Jan 13 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| AT&T Chooses Ubuntu and Canonical for Its Network and Cloud Operations		Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio https://t.co/wapbpJST0X	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oet9a	Jan 13 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS and Pulse Audio		Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should you install Linux on a gaming laptop?	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MmGR65SlVe (www.infoworld.com)	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	answers from #reddit	Jan 13 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oet9b	Jan 13 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Should you install Linux on a gaming laptop? \| InfoWorld		Jan 13 17:44
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes...'		Jan 13 17:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel...'		Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution	Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2	Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qNp11jdnTx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oet9y	Jan 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes GNOME 3.18.2 \| Tux Machines		Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu and AT&T https://t.co/tRoPaDRw3X	Jan 13 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opening your mind to open source	Jan 13 17:54
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960527	Jan 13 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who are using #gnu #linux and are good at it don't go command-line because there's no other option but because sometimes it's faster		Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	"Sometimes it also avoids unintended side effects."	Jan 13 18:21
schestowitz	"Faster, easier, and more capable."	Jan 13 18:21
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msb_	schestowitz: Please watch this great one-minute video. About corporate media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7K7SaEgB7w "msb_: those people who say "zealots", They have many MS people in their staff as "journalists""	Jan 13 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Watching the Hawks: Questioning more than the mainstream media - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/oetj3 ]		Jan 13 18:45
oiaohm	msb_: really you need to look closer. Lot of people on Microsoft staff are technically employed as writers. The difference between a writer and a journalist to be exact is that a journalist is meant to know how to research facts where a writer just words what is in front of them.	Jan 13 18:49
oiaohm	msb_: yes man cons depended on how much of main stream media these days are writers not journalists.	Jan 13 18:49
oiaohm	msb_: in fact some of yes man cons show how simple it is to have writers complete a real looking paper containing complete fiction. http://theyesmen.org/hijinks/newyorktimes	Jan 13 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theyesmen.org \| New York Times special edition \| The Yes Men [ http://ur1.ca/oetk5 ]		Jan 13 18:53
msb_	oiaohm: 1. you say that systemd is necessary for Linux 2. you say that cannabis is harmful 3. you say that police clubbing people on the head is a good method of crowd control 4. Now you're saying that some MS writers for IDG are good guys. And you refuse to tell us your name or who you work for.	Jan 13 18:53
oiaohm	msb_: no you just added bogus.	Jan 13 18:53
oiaohm	I did not say they were good guys at all	Jan 13 18:54
oiaohm	Sorry you are a complete bullshit artist msb_	Jan 13 18:54
msb_	why won't you tell us your name and affiliation?	Jan 13 18:55
oiaohm	msb_: the serous question here is why does places like IDG employ people who are just writers who don't have proper journalist qualifications and training to validate facts.	Jan 13 18:55
oiaohm	msb_: number 1 to a person who likes to quote me out of context I have no reason to give my real name. Like it or not schestowitz has my real name along with others in here.	Jan 13 18:57
oiaohm	msb_: I said systemd was necessary to happen for Linux development not that systemd is self is long term necessary.	Jan 13 18:57
oiaohm	msb_: like cgroup v1 that was necessary to work out what cgroups should do. But long term that complete interface will have to disappear.	Jan 13 18:58
oiaohm	msb_: me alone does not say that cannabis is harmful. Medical data on cannabis says the stuff you can buy on the street today is harmful.	Jan 13 18:59
oiaohm	msb_: crowd control is a brutal process. What should the police do use bullets or water or floam and kill more people. Intentionally targeted kill strikes with a baton will kill a person 1 every 3 strike. Targeted hits with a baton to induce pain kill hospital risk is about 1 in 2000 strikes by well trained by poorly trained about 1 in 500 strikes.	Jan 13 19:03
oiaohm	msb_: those are the shocking numbers. Poorly trained police are a major worry.	Jan 13 19:04
oiaohm	msb_: basically you go off on tangents all the time without knowing the facts. One of the signs that the person you are dealing with is not a journalist is click baiting. So some of the reason IDG employees writers not journalist is click baiting allows them to make more money from advertisement with completely false stories.	Jan 13 19:09
MinceR	same reason journalism is practically dead	Jan 13 19:10
oiaohm	msb_: http://www.infoworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ if you look into Galen Gruman who is the editor of infoworld and the author of that tinker toys write up does not have a single journalism qualification.	Jan 13 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Galen Gruman \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oetnn ]		Jan 13 19:13
oiaohm	This is what is so insane people pay big money on books written and managed by people who are not qualified to write them in the first place.	Jan 13 19:14
oiaohm	Funny part is most peopled don't know the formal titles. "Editor in Chief" is the proper tittle for someone who has journalism qualifications and is an executive editor. http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html Notice something here. That is Eric Knorr,	Jan 13 19:18
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oiaohm	Galen Gruman is not even officially on the infoworld executive. Really slap shot media setup there.	Jan 13 19:19
MinceR	so, what is the "Editor in Chief" supposed to do with hack "articles" full of lies?	Jan 13 19:20
schestowitz	Eric Knohr? (spelling)	Jan 13 19:20
schestowitz	I think he's the editor of 'info' war	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	aka InfoWorld	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	he doesn't like Linux much, eitheer	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	but not in Microsoft's pockets afaict	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	though not critical of them either	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	Galen IIRC is a big Apple fan	Jan 13 19:21
oiaohm	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor-in-chief the job description.	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	[19:18] <oiaohm> Funny part is most peopled don't know the formal titles. "Editor in Chief" is the proper tittle for someone who has journalism qualifications and is an executive editor. http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html Notice something here. That is Eric Knorr,	Jan 13 19:21
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schestowitz	Ah, yes, it's him	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	Snorr	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	Knorr	Jan 13 19:21
schestowitz	the problem is who they hire	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	they have ex-MS staff	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	current MS staff	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	MS MVPs	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	I mean, come on	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	if you hire as writers these people, might as well hand over the operation to MSFT	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	I wrote a lot about this	Jan 13 19:22
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDG	Jan 13 19:22
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schestowitz	NetworkWorld is also quite bad	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	but not as bad as it used to be	Jan 13 19:23
oiaohm	MinceR: so its the "editor and chief" people who is technically responsible for everything. They are meant to post corrections about any incorrectly published articial as well as attempt to prevent that from happening.	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	years ago it has a 'foss' blog which was stuffed with anti-FOSS writers	Jan 13 19:23
oiaohm	MinceR: "editors and chief" are not mean to allow people to use bullshit titles either.	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	IDG sites need to due	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	*die	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	MS boosters will write in their blogs	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	no ads as incentive to hire/bias stuff	Jan 13 19:23
schestowitz	we don't need corporate media	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	people don't deserve to be promoted to "news" feeds just because some company hired them	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	and this companies received money from MS	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	or is connected directly to MS	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	Like 1105 Media	Jan 13 19:24
oiaohm	Reality with IDG they need a new "Editor in Chief' and possibility a complete new executive	Jan 13 19:24
schestowitz	Too many propaganda sites out there, inc. MS-connected ones	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	IDG is on sale	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	maybe it'll go down the toilet	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	!google idg up for sale	Jan 13 19:25
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schestowitz	what would Larabel do?	Jan 13 19:25
oiaohm	schestowitz: its already down the toilet and should be treated like a tablod not a reference document.	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	he depends on them for crappy obtrusive ads	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	oiaohm: right	Jan 13 19:25
schestowitz	I don't like it when people like swapnil dump multware	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	and then themurk	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	and now linuxveda is dea	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	*dead	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	because he works for IDG	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	Mostly "CIO"	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	In Virginia... Arlington IIRC	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	so his own sites where he cannot be censored are dead	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	The same goes for many of their other pro-Linux writers	Jan 13 19:26
schestowitz	SJVN works for CBS now	Jan 13 19:27
oiaohm	The problem with blaming the writers people forget its the "editor in chief" and staff who approve everything the writers do or they should if they are doing there job.	Jan 13 19:27
schestowitz	and he sounds like a pro-MS tune sometimes	Jan 13 19:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/687343959404888064	Jan 13 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz , what do you think abt such project? - https://t.co/KFeDZWIqTp		Jan 13 19:30
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schestowitz	oiaohm: well, Knorr failed	Jan 13 19:30
schestowitz	and he needs house cleaning, it's well overdue	Jan 13 19:30
schestowitz	surely he saw my criticism of him many times before	Jan 13 19:30
schestowitz	and of his writers who have obvious conflicts of interest	Jan 13 19:31
schestowitz	specifically, double-agents with MS and IDG	Jan 13 19:31
schestowitz	Not just MVPs	Jan 13 19:31
schestowitz	they'e self-discrediting	Jan 13 19:31
MinceR	oiaohm: so in short this "Editor in Chief" is not doing his job	Jan 13 19:32
MinceR	despite the title and alleged training	Jan 13 19:32
oiaohm	I really think some of these bad "editors in chief" use spidermans "John Jonah Jameson" as a reference on how to do job.	Jan 13 19:32
MinceR	lol	Jan 13 19:32
oiaohm	Really J. Jonah Jameson the other way of name is a great example of everything a editor in chief should never do.	Jan 13 19:33
oiaohm	http://www.infoworld.com/author/Eric-Knorr/ seriously for person who has got high journalism award over the years the stuff he lets infoworld put out is a complete disgrace.	Jan 13 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Eric Knorr \| InfoWorld		Jan 13 19:40
oiaohm	MinceR: its something when you know that the person does not know what they should be doing but someone like Eric Knorr serous-ally does know so you must presume its for the all mighty dollar.	Jan 13 19:41
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MinceR	i guess it went to hell when someone like rupert murdoch realized that some people don't care for journalism and will pay for someone to lie to them	Jan 13 19:50
oiaohm	MinceR: The sad reality is it cheep to pay someone to write lies than pay someone todo proper journalism. Why proper journalism requires proper fact checking. Yes man proved over and over that people don't do proper fact checking.	Jan 13 19:52
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MinceR	the former pays well because people don't care about facts	Jan 13 19:54
oiaohm	MinceR: rupert mudoch writing papers here in Australia to save on cost had articals ghost written in may papers to fill contents what is completely not journalism before he left Australia and become a USA cit.	Jan 13 19:54
MinceR	if they did, they wouldn't pay for the latter and thus papers would have to do fact checking or fail	Jan 13 19:54
oiaohm	MinceR: note "editors in chief" are not meant to allow ghost written articals either.	Jan 13 19:54
oiaohm	MinceR: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/aug/02/scientists-ghostwritten-articles-fraud some of this stuff that you find IDG and others doing is in fact criminal offenses.	Jan 13 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Scientists credited on ghostwritten articles 'should be charged with fraud' \| Science \| The Guardian		Jan 13 19:58
oiaohm	Really we need some "editors in chief" charged with fraud charges for some of the actions and maybe then they will learn todo their jobs.	Jan 13 19:59
MinceR	will anyone prosecute them for it?	Jan 13 20:00
oiaohm	That is the problem. No "editor in chief" has been prosecuted in 50+ years.	Jan 13 20:01
MinceR	just like the way antitrust regulations are unenforced	Jan 13 20:01
oiaohm	Yep	Jan 13 20:02
oiaohm	Please note anti-trust offenses also apply to some of these "editor in chief" actions.	Jan 13 20:02
oiaohm	So of course you don't see these suspect "editor in chiefs" calling for anti-trust enforcement.	Jan 13 20:03
oiaohm	And of course political parties don't want "editors in chief" doing their job as this would make it so many times harder to push political lies out their.	Jan 13 20:04
oiaohm	MinceR: basically its really simple to see where the problem is. The problem is how in heck to fix it.	Jan 13 20:04
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oiaohm	MinceR: for publications who don't have an assigned "editor in chief" the buck technically stops with the owners and executive. So alway someone is legally responsible for written crap not just the writer. Lot of people don't know that the print shop that produces false documents has a legal responsibility.	Jan 13 20:19
schestowitz	why just blame editor in chief?	Jan 13 20:34
schestowitz	Also, any evidence of ghostwriting here?	Jan 13 20:34
schestowitz	What we have are apple/msft fanbois acting as "journalists"	Jan 13 20:34
schestowitz	that in itself is an editorial assignment issue	Jan 13 20:35
oiaohm	schestowitz: using invalid titles is classed as ghost writing.	Jan 13 20:35
oiaohm	schestowitz: executive editor should be part of the executive,	Jan 13 20:35
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oiaohm	schestowitz: http://www.infoworld.com/about/about.html look here there are 5 people infoworld executive. Not one is Galen-Gruman http://www.infoworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ so the title here saying Executive editor is Fraud.	Jan 13 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| About Us		Jan 13 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Articles by Galen Gruman \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oetnn ]		Jan 13 20:41
oiaohm	schestowitz: yes Galen-Gruman title be IDC Executive Editor or just Dept Infoworld Editor.	Jan 13 20:43
oiaohm	schestowitz: yep its a repeating mistake http://www.cio.com/about/about.html http://www.cio.com/author/Galen-Gruman/	Jan 13 20:46
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oiaohm	schestowitz: http://www.computerworld.com/about/about.html http://www.computerworld.com/author/Galen-Gruman/ seams to be a lot of "editor in chief" are down right asleep at wheel.	Jan 13 20:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com \| Articles by Galen Gruman \| Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/oeu2x ]		Jan 13 20:48
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oiaohm	schestowitz: ok http://www.idc.com/about/management.jsp who in heck is Galen Gruman an Executive for. No where can I find where he is one.	Jan 13 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming (Jolt, PlayStation 4,	Jan 13 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	Homefront...) https://t.co/3s1WheX61u	Jan 13 21:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz Just in case the first 6998 don't work. It's call 'back up' ... 😳🍷☠		Jan 13 21:40
schestowitz	here is MSLinuxFoundation boosting the troll https://twitter.com/linuxfoundation/status/687349397768650752	Jan 13 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linuxfoundation: "The fact is, Linux makes it possible for developers to create OSes for all sorts of new things." https://t.co/VkyUGYVXNU via @infoworld		Jan 13 21:45
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schestowitz	giving him hits	Jan 13 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines	Extended Review, Video Demonstration and	Jan 13 22:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center to Get a Completely New	Jan 13 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	Design in Future GNOME Releases	Jan 13 22:11
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schestowitz	http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-green/2016/01/13/home-office-saudi-arabia-and-the-need-for-a-safe-space/	Jan 13 22:23
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oiaohm	schestowitz: from what I have found that a long while back Galen Gruman was Executive Editor on lots of those different sites. Problem is he is no longer part of the executive those sites. Amazon has it correct http://www.amazon.com/Galen-Gruman/e/B001HCTXE4	Jan 13 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Galen Gruman: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle		Jan 13 22:40
oiaohm	schestowitz: Really shows poor control over sites.	Jan 13 22:40
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schestowitz	oiaohm: so I was right	Jan 13 23:21
schestowitz	my memory didn't fail me, he's a Mac cultist	Jan 13 23:21
schestowitz	MinceR: see the amazon link above	Jan 13 23:21
schestowitz	does IDG employ so-called Linux 'zealots'?	Jan 13 23:22
schestowitz	I guess Swapnil MIGHT count as one	Jan 13 23:22
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Jan 13 23:24
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msb_	I don't think a writer/journalist's credentials or title matter at all. People with excellent credentials and title can be totally corrupt. What matters is whether he's telling the truth or lying. When Gruman writes that Linux does not have a GUI interface for ordinary people, he is simply _lying_. And while it's possible that he's lying because he's all hot for Macs, it's much more likely that he's being paid money to do it.	Jan 13 23:53
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 13 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	@LomaOravec @tuxmachines try to achieve my mark 1T3	Jan 14 00:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zero-Day FFmpeg Vulnerability Lets Anyone Steal	Jan 14 00:04
TweetTuxMachines	Files from Remote Machines	Jan 14 00:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wYOcSPeloy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 00:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Zero-Day FFmpeg Vulnerability Lets Anyone Steal Files from Remote Machines \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 00:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Quiz, Another Poll, and Win-ning	Jan 14 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/u4Pzp1DGDb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Quiz, Another Poll, and Win-ning \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/PgLZy72nxt	Jan 14 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 00:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Zero-Day FFmpeg Vulnerability Lets Anyone Steal Files from...'		Jan 14 00:12
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux GNOME 15.12 Distribution Officially Released, Includes...'		Jan 14 00:12
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware Linux 14.2 Beta 1 Brings Linux Kernel...'		Jan 14 00:13
oiaohm	msb_: writer can write almost anything and remain a writer. Journalist on the other hand required the means to register with the likes of http://www.spj.org/ for support in fact checking.	Jan 14 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spj.org \| Society of Professional Journalists \| Improving and protecting journalism since 1909		Jan 14 00:49
oiaohm	msb_: Journalist without registrations that give the contacts to properly fact check cannot do their job as a Journalist. Those registrations depend on not being corrupt.	Jan 14 00:50
oiaohm	msb_: its why I say don't mix up Journalist and Writers. Writers don't have anywhere near the same restrictions.	Jan 14 00:51
oiaohm	msb_: Gruman is only a Writer. Not a Journalist has no Journalist require registrations.	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	that's all fine and nice on paper	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	journalists have their bises	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	biased	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	they just hide them	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	this one is a pundit	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	or writer or whayever	Jan 14 00:52
schestowitz	A lot of the writers there are Windows or Mac authors	Jan 14 00:53
schestowitz	and it's clear what they benefit from financially	Jan 14 00:53
msb_	oiaohm: Anyone can lie. You have a dogmatic way of thinking that leads you to wrong conclusions about systemd, cannabis, police violence, and journalists/writers.	Jan 14 00:53
msb_	A journalist/writer's _history_ of telling the truth or lying, is significant. Their credentials and job title are not.	Jan 14 00:55
oiaohm	msb_: true anyone can lie/bias. A writer there is no major possible punishment. Journalist being using false/spreading facts this effects fact checking this has effects on means to operate profensionally. As schestowitz said profesional Journalist hide them.	Jan 14 00:56
oiaohm	msb_: profesional journalist lie by omission methods most commonly.	Jan 14 00:56
oiaohm	msb_: there is a major difference between a writer and journalist.	Jan 14 00:57
schestowitz	oiaohm: just words	Jan 14 00:57
schestowitz	in practice, when people hear journalist they think "paid"	Jan 14 00:57
schestowitz	so some corporate channel with some agenda pays the writer	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	and calls it "journalist"	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	it's about salaried and non-salaried	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	IIRC, DiFi (Feinstein) wanted to offer protections to writers only if they're paid	Jan 14 00:58
schestowitz	which is probably the opposite of how it should work	Jan 14 00:58
oiaohm	schestowitz: that the thing you don't hear the word Journalist in fact used that much. People have taken on fraud charges using the word Journalist to describe self when they are not.	Jan 14 00:59
oiaohm	Instead you see people who are just writers using the terms like editors and so on.	Jan 14 01:00
oiaohm	schestowitz: here is something shocking only 30 percent of registered journalists are in fact paid.	Jan 14 01:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/VksVJ30lvx'		Jan 14 10:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gnome desktop: A settings design update	Jan 14 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vLZCo3iKYc (blogs.gnome.org)	Jan 14 10:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2016/01/13/a-settings-design-update/ )		Jan 14 10:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center to Get a Completely New Design in Future GNOME Releases		Jan 14 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| GNOME Settings Is Getting Improved - Phoronix		Jan 14 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Partial Fermi Re-Clocking Being Talked About	Jan 14 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	For Nouveau https://t.co/yKNJKm4V17	Jan 14 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 11:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Partial Fermi Re-Clocking Being Talked About For Nouveau - Phoronix		Jan 14 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Corporate Media Should Stop Pretending That	Jan 14 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	Former Microsoft Staff is Now FOSS and Linux	Jan 14 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	‘Analysts’ https://t.co/dIwfHEppol	Jan 14 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 14 11:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Corporate Media Should Stop Pretending That Former Microsoft Staff is Now FOSS and Linux ‘Analysts’ \| Techrights		Jan 14 11:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bastianbest: @schestowitz Just bad, no software involved this time.		Jan 14 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) Gets Linux Kernel	Jan 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	4.4 LTS with the Latest Stable Update	Jan 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LfviwWtFAi (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 11:30
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Corporate Media Should Stop Pretending That Former Microsoft...'		Jan 14 11:30
*TweetTuxMachines @pinguinpatje favourited 'Corporate Media Should Stop Pretending That Former Microsoft...'		Jan 14 11:32
*TweetTuxMachines @deusexstigma retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Corporate Media Should Stop Pretending That Former Microsoft...'		Jan 14 11:32
*TweetTuxMachines @Left_of_Labor retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Corporate Media Should Stop Pretending That Former Microsoft...'		Jan 14 11:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 21 Best Free Linux Productivity Tools	Jan 14 11:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TWglPd7WCx (www.linuxlinks.com)	Jan 14 11:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com \| 21 Best Free Linux Productivity Tools - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site		Jan 14 11:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Staging Update Is Modestly Sized For Linux	Jan 14 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	4.5 https://t.co/j65oV4CbVN (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 12:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| The Staging Update Is Modestly Sized For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 14 12:07
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Staging Update Is Modestly Sized For Linux...'		Jan 14 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Recoll 1.21.4 Has Been Released	Jan 14 12:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| Recoll 1.21.4 Has Been Released \| LinuxG.net		Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #openDesktoporg changes https://t.co/jbBZSAquve	Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	(karlitschek.de) https://t.co/L0Y9Il2tDf	Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	(karlitschek.de) sold by Frank!	Jan 14 12:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-karlitschek.de \| Frank Karlitschek_ » openDesktop.org changes		Jan 14 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-karlitschek.de \| Frank Karlitschek_ » openDesktop.org. 15 years in review		Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 ways to use the Telegram messenger on your	Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	Linux computer https://t.co/Z4vQOasXC6	Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxblog.darkduck.com)	Jan 14 12:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com \| 5 ways to use the Telegram messenger on your Linux computer - Linux notes from DarkDuck		Jan 14 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Upgrading from the previous stable Fedora	Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	release https://t.co/YAr6leum4s	Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.happyassassin.net)	Jan 14 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/01/13/upgrading-from-the-previous-stable-fedora-release/ )		Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Gives False Impression of Microsoft's	Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	Proprietary Spyware/Malware Being 'Open' and	Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-friendly https://t.co/aQO9eygUdQ	Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 14 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/Ocd32Xz5Rp	Jan 14 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| The Latest Openwashing by Microsoft Gives False Impression of Microsoft’s Proprietary Spyware/Malware Being ‘Open’ and Linux-friendly \| Techrights		Jan 14 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros of 2016	Jan 14 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OD6Wt0S4Ji (www.linux.com)	Jan 14 12:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| The Best Linux Distros of 2016 \| Linux.com		Jan 14 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 9 Linux distros to watch in 2016	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jFNxd0Pch4 (www.networkworld.com)	Jan 14 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| 9 Linux distros to watch in 2016		Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah,	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	we're messing with you https://t.co/ASE9Ebsvyh	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex4e	Jan 14 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah, we're messing with you \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tfLuj7aKGo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	Support for New GPUs https://t.co/duxPUZe2Ov	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	European Countries Early 2016	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7c64uCL57T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex4h	Jan 14 12:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other European Countries Early 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 12:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny Core piCore 7.0 Raspberry Pi Edition Now	Jan 14 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	Ships with Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS	Jan 14 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/camSwrbWiT (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 12:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Tiny Core piCore 7.0 Raspberry Pi Edition Now Ships with Linux Kernel 4.1.13 LTS		Jan 14 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.12.52 LTS Has Numerous IPv6	Jan 14 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	Improvements, Lots of Updated Drivers	Jan 14 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/f3WKwPBSMU (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 12:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.12.52 LTS Has Numerous IPv6 Improvements, Lots of Updated Drivers		Jan 14 12:50
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft Gives False Impression of Microsoft's Proprietary Spyware/Malware...'		Jan 14 12:51
*TweetTuxMachines @HardwareWrld favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.52 LTS Has Numerous IPv6 Improvements,...'		Jan 14 12:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/Ocd32Xz5Rp'		Jan 14 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #Google #Chrome Users Will Push Content to	Jan 14 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	#Chromecast Without Dedicated Extension	Jan 14 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nbvoEm1BvT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 12:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Google Chrome Users Will Push Content to Chromecast Without Dedicated Extension		Jan 14 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Whatever Android-ChromeOS mashup looks like,	Jan 14 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	it's gotta be better looking than this	Jan 14 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qwfvfLEpkU (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 12:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Whatever Android-ChromeOS mashup looks like, it's gotta be better looking than this • The Register		Jan 14 12:58
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6962621	Jan 14 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RemixOS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction https://tlhp.cf/remix-os-review/ #android #linux		Jan 14 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tlhp.cf \| Remix OS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction – The Linux Homefront Project		Jan 14 12:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962277	Jan 14 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Reform That Would Help Little Guy https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/16143033314/qualcomm-says-fighting-little-guy-while-really-blocking-patent-reform-that-would-help-little-guy.shtml #patents		Jan 14 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Patent Reform That Would Help The Little Guy \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oex61 ]		Jan 14 13:00
schestowitz	"best cpu at the moment I tthink"	Jan 14 13:00
schestowitz	For mobile?	Jan 14 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to All User	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	Content https://t.co/nkHJvtqhKz	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) #remixos #privacy	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	warnings... (no source code either?)	Jan 14 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to All User Content		Jan 14 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RemixOS – Android-based OS For Desktop:	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	Extended Review, Video Demonstration and	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	Installation Instruction	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uN1D4dwA94 (tlhp.cf)	Jan 14 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Remix OS's desktop-friendly flavor of Android	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	hits PCs with mouse support and windows	Jan 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nLCNsQ3VJT (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 14 13:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Remix OS's desktop-friendly flavor of Android hits PCs with mouse support and windows \| PCWorld		Jan 14 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Auto architect Brenner sees a 'virtuous	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	cycle' in common car software	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y3Fyjwpp77 (www.autonews.com)	Jan 14 13:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.autonews.com \| Android Auto architect Brenner sees a 'virtuous cycle' in common car software		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AndroidN UK release date, name and feature	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	rumours: 18 May https://t.co/AuVKQHX1xO	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.pcadvisor.co.uk) https://t.co/aRB7Htic8u	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.express.co.uk)	Jan 14 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| Android N UK release date, name and feature rumours - New Product - PC Advisor		Jan 14 13:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk \| Google just confirmed when you'll get the first glimpse of Android N \| Tech \| Life & Style \| Daily Express		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: 14 new KILLER features	Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ncl7xJXZIF (www.alphr.com)	Jan 14 13:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com \| Android Marshmallow: 14 new KILLER features \| Alphr		Jan 14 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Put Android On Your Desktop with Remix	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	OS https://t.co/dBTnldamqI (lifehacker.com)	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8o	Jan 14 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| How to Put Android On Your Desktop with Remix OS		Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 22 Years of #LinuxJournal on One DVD - Now	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	Available	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LUSQwxumHt (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	going digital. "well over 4,100 articles!"	Jan 14 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| 22 Years of Linux Journal on One DVD - Now Available \| Linux Journal		Jan 14 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android launcher update adds auto-rotate,	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	forces icon size consistency	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/H1M4a9ERpU (arstechnica.com)	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8q	Jan 14 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Android launcher update adds auto-rotate, forces icon size consistency \| Ars Technica		Jan 14 13:19
schestowitz	http://betanews.com/2016/01/14/microsoft-rebrands-revolution-r-open-will-keep-it-free-and-open-source/	Jan 14 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| Microsoft rebrands Revolution R Open, will keep it free and open-source		Jan 14 13:19
schestowitz	BS	Jan 14 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Living with the Pixel C: The best and worst of	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	Android in one device https://t.co/tiyIVSsy36	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.extremetech.com)	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex92	Jan 14 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com \| Living with the Pixel C: The best and worst of Android in one device \| ExtremeTech		Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Jan 14 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oex8v	Jan 14 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 13:21
msb_	schestowitz: Great article on IDG, etc! Who would have thought that a site called LinuxInsider is actually anti-Linux? There is just no limit to corporate lying!	Jan 14 13:30
cubexyz	how are they anti-linux?	Jan 14 13:32
schestowitz	> "Doctors and nurses use up to half of their time recording and	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> reporting information"	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> http://www.thelocal.dk/20160112/denmark-is-no-longer-the-country-i-loved-when-i-was-a-young-man	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelocal.dk \| 'Denmark is no longer the country I loved' - The Local		Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> That article is a bit of a rant but the part about recording instead of	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> working is shared by many other jobs not just the medical field. It is	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> probably attributable to the proliferation of Peoplesoft and SAP. Also,	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> many subcomponents of the work environments described there have been	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> privatized, thus increasing up to an order of magnitude in cost.	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> Organizations no longer own their own buildings but must rent the same	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> facilities from a new private entity which is "required" to squeeze	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	> massive "profits" from the activity.	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	Even Microsoft, from my understanding, is starting to rent space.	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	cubexyz: not all the writers	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	some in particular	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	Jack is usually OK	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	and he actually uses Linux	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	the site has a long history...	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	with Enderle as writer	Jan 14 13:33
schestowitz	and editor who never tried Linux	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	how can an editor of "Linux Insider" be a person who doesn't know Linux?	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	That was published some time around 2008	Jan 14 13:34
schestowitz	it deserved much attention at the time	Jan 14 13:34
cubexyz	yes that does sound ridiculous	Jan 14 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	Warned Not to Use Unstable Repo	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UA1sYxBoh4 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexaf	Jan 14 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People Warned Not to Use Unstable Repo		Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Operating System 1.0 Provides New Linux	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop Experience https://t.co/oZXV6YFZWx	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.eweek.com)	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexag	Jan 14 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Solus Operating System 1.0 Provides New Linux Desktop Experience		Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8-Way ARM Board Linux Benchmark Comparison From	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	The PiZero & ODROID To Tegra	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tZy2ay1X4G (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexah	Jan 14 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| 8-Way ARM Board Linux Benchmark Comparison From The Pi Zero & ODROID To Tegra - Phoronix		Jan 14 13:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687628990018883584	Jan 14 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Yup, but a bitch of an EULA...		Jan 14 13:37
schestowitz	yes, people found out...	Jan 14 13:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687629045480095744	Jan 14 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Lords discusses identity cards - News from Parliament - UK Parliament @schestowitz https://t.co/PNExPqcopB		Jan 14 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.parliament.uk \| Lords discusses identity cards - News from Parliament - UK Parliament		Jan 14 13:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687629270873698304	Jan 14 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Those Chinese fellows made a proprietary spaghetti on the (relative) free AOSP		Jan 14 13:39
schestowitz	Noodle code...	Jan 14 13:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687630313242099712	Jan 14 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yes @schestowitz One thing you can guarantee about UK Govt. If they can't screw it up now they'll do it to you at some time in the future.		Jan 14 13:40
oiaohm	schestowitz: cubexyz: there have been some well run papers where the "editor in chief" did not know the topic. Having sub staff doing proper fact checking and then editor in chief allocating stuff to interest non Linux users could have worked in this case.	Jan 14 13:42
oiaohm	Problem here unless it done properly it will not work.	Jan 14 13:43
oiaohm	schestowitz: cubexyz basically the ones that work have a "deputy editor in cheif" that know the field with a "editor in cheif" who does not who job is to make it layout good to those are not in the field.	Jan 14 13:46
oiaohm	Of course Linux Insider does not have that.	Jan 14 13:47
cubexyz	I don't really like any of the linux magazines	Jan 14 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing	Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	with Full Video in Compiz	Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oxeXlWHkft (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexct	Jan 14 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing with Full Video in Compiz		Jan 14 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LZ4 #Compression Support Is Unlikely For Btrfs	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qYQjqbKA6w (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcu	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	with a New Linux Kernel, Security Fixes	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/njN2awHh2F (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcv	Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| LZ4 Compression Support Is Unlikely For Btrfs - Phoronix		Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships with a New Linux Kernel, Security Fixes		Jan 14 13:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687631092216631296	Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Institute of Directors warns against ‘Stasi-style’ surveillance of employees @schestowitz https://t.co/risNkt248B		Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.yorkshirepost.co.uk \| Institute of Directors warns against ‘Stasi-style’ surveillance of employees - Yorkshire Post		Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hypercharge looks like an amazing UE4 shooter	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	that will support Linux https://t.co/A9qHY4wjgp	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexcy	Jan 14 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Hypercharge looks like an amazing UE4 shooter that will support Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 13:52
oiaohm	cubexyz: I find the "Linux Magazine" ok. Does help that it one of the rare ones with properly qualified staff.	Jan 14 13:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687631567016095744	Jan 14 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Cisco kills hardcoded password bug in Wi-Fi access points (they claim) @schestowitz https://t.co/8w0dZI790K		Jan 14 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.net-security.org \| Cisco kills hardcoded password bug in Wi-Fi access points		Jan 14 13:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/687634006339366912	Jan 14 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Yeh.. @schestowitz <looks around> Can't see any Cisco hardware here... Did a few Cisco courses. Thought... no, don't want that.		Jan 14 13:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: if you go to most news agants this is not a Linux then and do the process of sorting mags by what ones have proper teams of qualified staff against those that don't less than 10 percent of the mag pass. Sadly porn mags are more likely to have properly qualified staff than anything else.	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PulseAudio added to Slackware 14.2 beta 1	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F75tNVV51b (www.slackware.com)	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	(Current (pre-release) ChangeLog for x86_64)	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xL7vGZeVNm (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackware.com \| The Slackware Linux Project: Slackware ChangeLogs		Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexdp	Jan 14 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Slackware 14.2 Beta Released, Now Uses PulseAudio - Phoronix		Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat	Jan 14 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexdq	Jan 14 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 13:57
schestowitz	[13:52] <oiaohm> cubexyz: I find the "Linux Magazine" ok. Does help that it one of the rare ones with properly qualified staff.	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	LM is OK	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	sometimes it does some non-Linux FOSS	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	but that's my only complaint (if ever) about their articles...	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	Some sites are very good	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	The H was good	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	but it's dead now, for years...	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	at least we managed to lobby to keep it online	Jan 14 13:58
schestowitz	Heise took it down	Jan 14 13:58
cubexyz	I noticed they sell individual articles for $3 each	Jan 14 13:59
cubexyz	do they use DRM on the emagazine?	Jan 14 14:00
cubexyz	just curious	Jan 14 14:00
cubexyz	probably all emags have DRM I guess	Jan 14 14:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: Linux Magazine provides 1 instructions to strip DRM off emags two there own is just PDF files.	Jan 14 14:03
oiaohm	I forgot there is one other Linux mag that has a reasonable staff. Linux Format the UK publication.	Jan 14 14:05
oiaohm	Fairly much all the other pure Linux mags staff are made up of a majority of writers not that qualified and it shows.	Jan 14 14:05
oiaohm	Even in the windows mags there are not many with qualified enough staff to write anything useful.	Jan 14 14:06
cubexyz	right, that's why I like the old ones better	Jan 14 14:06
cubexyz	but I tend in that direction anyway	Jan 14 14:06
oiaohm	I have seen a lot of good one off mags.	Jan 14 14:07
oiaohm	Again normally those good ones are writen by one of the authors in Linux Magazine or Linux Format.	Jan 14 14:07
oiaohm	when it comes to Linux.	Jan 14 14:07
oiaohm	The number of people truly qualified and have writing skill is extreamly limited.	Jan 14 14:08
cubexyz	is there a convention for UTF-8 text files?	Jan 14 14:34
*schestowitz loves utf-8		Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3021924/application-development/hooray-microsofts-r-will-remain-free-and-open.html	Jan 14 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| Hooray! Microsoft's R will remain free and open \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/oexkt ]		Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> Subtitle, M$ cannot circumvent R's license. The push seems to be to	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> force all M$ R users to upload their data to M$ servers (cloud). Which	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> NSA programme is applicable there? This is not about statistics it is	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	> about gathering intel on what research is going on.	Jan 14 14:34
schestowitz	Yes, more control over more data, meaning lockin.	Jan 14 14:34
cubexyz	I usually use *.txt for text files but I should really differentiate ascii text from utf-8 text	Jan 14 14:34
MinceR	R is now "Microsoft's"?	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	sort of..	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	R isn't owned	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	but some companies lead the way in it	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	like with apache, systemd...	Jan 14 14:35
cubexyz	who owns apache?	Jan 14 14:35
schestowitz	ASF	Jan 14 14:36
schestowitz	now headed by MS guy	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	MS employee	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	Ross	Jan 14 14:37
schestowitz	Unless this has changed	Jan 14 14:37
cubexyz	Apache Software Foundation is headed by a M$ person?	Jan 14 14:38
schestowitz	!google ross techrights apache	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Microsoft Coup D'état: After Paying the Apache Software ... - Techrights \| http://techrights.org/2014/11/05/apache-software-foundation-microsoft/	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - ApacheRoss SPS (@ApacheRoss) \| Twitter \| https://twitter.com/apacheross	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Breaking Microsoft's Chains by Moving to LibreOffice \| FOSS Force \| http://fossforce.com/2014/03/breaking-microsoft-chains-moving-libreoffice/	Jan 14 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - It Ain't Easy Making Money in Open Source: Thoughts on the ... \| https://www.enterpriseirregulars.com/80464/aint-easy-making-money-open-source-thoughts-hortonworks-s-1/	Jan 14 14:39
schestowitz	see [1]	Jan 14 14:39
schestowitz	> I'm already seeing people confused about "Microsoft R Open". However, I	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> have two comments.	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> First is that R is part of the GNU Project and not likely to succumb	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> lightly:	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> "R is an official part of the Free Software	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> Foundation’s GNU project, and the R Foundation has	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> similar goals to other open source software	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> foundations like the Apache Foundation or the GNOME	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> Foundation."	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> https://www.r-project.org/foundation/	Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.r-project.org \| R: The R Foundation		Jan 14 14:43
schestowitz	> Even R-Studio is dedicated to being open source, as shown in the mission	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> statement:	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> "RStudio has a mission to provide the most widely used	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> open source and enterprise-ready professional software	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> for the R statistical computing environment. These	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> tools further the cause of equipping everyone,	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> regardless of means, to participate in a global economy	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> that increasingly rewards data literacy."	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> https://www.rstudio.com/about/	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	>	Jan 14 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rstudio.com \| About \| RStudio		Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> Second, and perhaps more importantly, this push looks like a grab for	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> the data. It looks like M$ wants to spy on what people are researching	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	> by getting chumps to upload (and pay) to M$ servers.	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	yes, Microsoft is trying to become another Google. See what MS does to Android... and how it pushes its "cloud" BS everywhere.	Jan 14 14:44
schestowitz	In my view, in order to stop MS we need to keep showing its relationship with the NSA, inc. back doors. Don't let the Scroogled PR succeed (i.e. painting only Google as a privacy threat).	Jan 14 14:44
MinceR	https://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12513861_938699436207923_520216492443926954_o.jpg	Jan 14 14:44
cubexyz	typical microsoft strategy... pot kettle black	Jan 14 14:44
cubexyz	ok I switched the txt to html with charset=UTF-8	Jan 14 14:50
cubexyz	then I put all the UTF-8 stuff surrounded by </pre>	Jan 14 14:50
schestowitz	^Hello ^Hworld	Jan 14 14:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/EVnQSJeFAQ'		Jan 14 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OUYA is blocking a Linux version of That	Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	Dragon, Cancer being on Steam	Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/64eSkkiiZG (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexo8	Jan 14 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| OUYA is blocking a Linux version of That Dragon, Cancer being on Steam \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CES 2016: Much ado about bots and drones	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qnoWvoZSUC (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	"frenzied fiends run Linux."	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexof	Jan 14 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| CES 2016: Much ado about bots and drones · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	Windows https://t.co/j8F7E9JvN3 (betanews.com)	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexoh	Jan 14 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft Windows		Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9xbtGnWHnv (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexoi	Jan 14 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)		Jan 14 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.4	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	LTS https://t.co/RqjZH7TP6h	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexos	Jan 14 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel 4.4 LTS		Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	fanlessly https://t.co/8UbhMAq9jA	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 14 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oexox	Jan 14 15:00
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Now Based on Linux Kernel...'		Jan 14 15:00
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'AT&T chooses Ubuntu Linux instead of Microsoft Windows...'		Jan 14 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly · LinuxGizmos.com		Jan 14 15:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687651640065847296 https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687651695598432258	Jan 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Patents only make climate change worst, as oil companies patents everything around green technologies #patent #climatechange		Jan 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz worse		Jan 14 15:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687648189126701056	Jan 14 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @AmChamEU_Trade @TTIPAction @Alliance4TTIP @TABC_Council @ert_eu Free trade and free market are not compatible with intellectual monopolies.		Jan 14 15:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687616788608212993	Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest technical is a restatement of the same problem.		Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687616939045351425	Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @bastianbest And the "technical" black hole is a German concept, so it stops at the German border.		Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687642130102226944	Jan 14 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @abaipl @ipwatchdog Patent system is not compatible with a free market.		Jan 14 15:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687642308880252928	Jan 14 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @grimborg @eventbrite Coming to FOSDEM? Will do the IOT devroom the whole saturday...		Jan 14 15:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sparkycollier/status/687657708804149248	Jan 14 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sparkycollier: Can't believe I am agreeing with this guy. https://t.co/IFu6nMghfT		Jan 14 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ex-NSA chief defends end-to-end #encryption , says ‘backdoors’ will make us less secure https://t.co/Q0bh86pnaL #hayden		Jan 14 15:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/margaretthatch/status/687662750563221504	Jan 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@margaretthatch: @schestowitz @01micko Same complaint in Netherlands (Europe)		Jan 14 15:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687627583232569345	Jan 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Doctors and nurses use up to half of their time recording and reporting information" https://t.co/UL7dtLZ6U1		Jan 14 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thelocal.dk \| 'Denmark is no longer the country I loved' - The Local		Jan 14 15:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JohnEdwards33/status/687648968805867520	Jan 14 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnEdwards33: Looks like Coe might have to get his running shoes back on.. Lord Coe under intense pressure after doping report https://t.co/MpsGYbipzK		Jan 14 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Lord Coe under intense pressure at IAAF after damning WADA doping report - Telegraph		Jan 14 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@ChronolabsCoop https://t.co/9xbtGnWHnv (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical to Ship Vagrant Cloud Images with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)		Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	Life on February 4, 2016	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/A3TRZ4TvXg (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) to Reach End of Life on February 4, 2016		Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates	Jan 14 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5L1jScZNnb (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New Unity 8 Interface, Exciting Updates		Jan 14 15:55
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962645	Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google I/O 2016 event dates and location revealed http://www.networkworld.com/article/3021857/android/google-io-event-date-set.html #scale and #fodsem coming as well. http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/01/ill-be-at-scale-and-fosdem-how-about-you.html #android #google #freesw		Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Google I/O 2016 event dates and location revealed \| Network World [ http://ur1.ca/oexzg ]		Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.jospoortvliet.com \| all mine!: I'll be at SCALE and FOSDEM, how about you? [ http://ur1.ca/oexzh ]		Jan 14 16:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962621	Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #RemixOS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction https://tlhp.cf/remix-os-review/ #android #linux		Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tlhp.cf \| Remix OS – Android-based OS For Desktop: Extended Review, Video Demonstration and Installation Instruction – The Linux Homefront Project		Jan 14 16:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962966	Jan 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lots of discussions today about how #microsoft is E.E.E.ing R language. This is another example of the dangers posed by Microsoft. #privacy		Jan 14 16:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962631	Jan 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #google implements feature that would benefit the #nsa agenda a lot http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/13/google-maps-for-androids-new-driving-mode-guesses-where-you-want-to-go/ http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/13/google-maps-for-android-gets-predictive-with-driving-mode/ #googlemaps #surveillance		Jan 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com \| Google Maps for Android's new Driving Mode guesses where you want to go \| VentureBeat \| Apps \| by Emil Protalinski [ http://ur1.ca/oexzl ]		Jan 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com \| Google Maps For Android Gets Predictive With Driving Mode \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/oexzm ]		Jan 14 16:09
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schestowitz	http://www.infoq.com/news/2016/01/chakracore http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/01/microsoft-might-be-developing-windows-10-for-arm-based-processors/ http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/microsoft-chakra-javascript-engine-goes-open-source-now-available-via-github-14-01-2016/	Jan 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com \| Microsoft Open Sources Chakra and Wants to Run Node.js on It [ http://ur1.ca/oey1y ]		Jan 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubergizmo.com \| Microsoft Might Be Developing Windows 10 For ARM-Based Processors [ http://ur1.ca/oey1z ]		Jan 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com \| Microsoft Chakra JavaScript Engine Goes Open Source Now Available Via GitHub (video) - Geeky Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/oey20 ]		Jan 14 16:23
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet/status/687669184302551040	Jan 14 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ppetrovdotnet: @schestowitz thus anonymity as import as free speech if not even more		Jan 14 16:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687671256737538050 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687669021349642240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668753912467456 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668481026842624	Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Amid #microsoft #openwashing campaign the company's boosters, Patrizio in this case, spread "MS loves Linux" lie https://t.co/l4UYMs376I		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Microsoft open sources Edge JavaScript code, plans Linux port		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft advocacy sites ensure that anyone who ever heard of #chakraLinux will now be confused https://t.co/ecWxr6lMhU #openwashing		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.winbeta.org \| The Microsoft Edge ChakraCore is now available via GitHub repository – WinBeta		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Names like "ChakraCore" imply core, i.e. proprietary with some #openwashing at the core https://t.co/OFR27zNNqv https://t.co/FFSWQARbiE		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tomshardware.com \| Microsoft Releases Its JavaScript Engine As Open Source 'ChakraCore'		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| The Latest Openwashing by Microsoft Gives False Impression of Microsoft’s Proprietary Spyware/Malware Being ‘Open’ and Linux-friendly \| Techrights		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft advocacy site helps the #microsoft "loves" propaganda (Linux, OSS etc.) https://t.co/B1u6ImZNKG see https://t.co/FFSWQARbiE		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.neowin.net \| Microsoft open-sources key components of the Chakra JavaScript engine		Jan 14 16:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687668274134388737 https://twitter.com/feed_berita/status/687666882845913089 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/687665657186529280 https://twitter.com/MartinXRugby/status/687636330327703552 https://twitter.com/KennySkyNews/status/687637652821176321	Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft wants to find volunteers to build malware https://t.co/0kN4gdlitX it came from above? https://t.co/Ft7YxrY7Dm		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Microsoft wants you, yes you, to write bits of Windows 10. For free • The Register		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@feed_berita: 'Corruption embedded within IAAF' -- report: Senior figures at the International Association of Athletics Fede... https://t.co/1hZO5wc0ST		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> da.feedsportal.com \|		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: You know that competitive sports died when the "winners" aren't the people who are hard(est working but the best cheaters e.g. Armstrong		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MartinXRugby: The IAAF council, which includes current president Lord Coe, "could not have been unaware of the extent of doping in athletics” #WADAReport		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KennySkyNews: IAAF President Lord Coe is in the room to hear findings of World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission. https://t.co/dBaG0dTOcJ		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KennySkyNews: IAAF President Lord Coe is in the room to hear findings of World Anti-Doping Agency's Independent Commission. https://t.co/dBaG0dTOcJ		Jan 14 16:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/687641984744448001 https://twitter.com/ringsau/status/687646732117741568	Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mrdanwalker: Bizarre that Lord Coe is sitting in a press conference where WADA are releasing details of corruption at the IAAF - which he heads!		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ringsau: WADA IC Report part 2 "Corrupt Conduct" IC demolishing Lord Coe's "just a few bad apples" analogy. Putrid. https://t.co/N3HirMNEsv		Jan 14 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ringsau: WADA IC Report part 2 "Corrupt Conduct" IC demolishing Lord Coe's "just a few bad apples" analogy. Putrid. https://t.co/N3HirMNEsv		Jan 14 16:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/687673232648974337	Jan 14 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz If the NHS doesn't sell them off first, just had first hand experience with this. Sold to a corrupt charity.		Jan 14 16:34
schestowitz	Good point	Jan 14 16:34
oiaohm	schestowitz: most people are not aware that MS SQL Server is based on very old postgresql.	Jan 14 16:37
oiaohm	schestowitz: difference now Microsoft is having to start the projects to attempt to get free labour not just pouch stuff.	Jan 14 16:38
MinceR	i though it was based on ingres, like postgres	Jan 14 16:44
MinceR	(and most other sql servers)	Jan 14 16:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale	Jan 14 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	released as last of the 17 line	Jan 14 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LeUSmCNN7K (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 16:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| After-dinner Mint? Stylish desktop finale released as last of the 17 line • The Register		Jan 14 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Thunderbird 38.5.1 Just Landed in	Jan 14 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu with a Ton of Security Updates	Jan 14 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RGVe2SmUHI. (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 16:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://news.softpedia.com/news/mozilla-thunderbird-38-5-1-just-landed-in-ubuntu-with-a-ton-of-security-updates-498915 )		Jan 14 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GrQKzQey5r (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iBhIakaVNQ (hexus.net)	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZPRXAm4sL9 (www.legitreviews.com)	Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs		Jan 14 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexus.net \| Nvidia GeForce Experience Beta adds new capture, mic features - Software - News - HEXUS.net		Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.legitreviews.com \| GeForce Experience Beta Adds New Streaming Features - Legit Reviews		Jan 14 16:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/687677316982550528	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah,	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	we're messing with you https://t.co/nIe2GYjBKs	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Do you think MS will axe R for Linux ?		Jan 14 16:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| 2015 was the Year of the Linux Phone ... Nah, we're messing with you • The Register		Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	European Countries Early 2016	Jan 14 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nyHQWHStcu (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 14 16:56
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schestowitz	probably perturb it (OOXML, Azure, etc.)	Jan 14 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung to Launch Tizen Z3 in Russia and Other European Countries Early 2016 - Tizen Experts		Jan 14 16:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962851	Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly http://linuxgizmos.com/compact-rugged-pc-packs-xeon-heat-keeps-cool-fanlessly/		Jan 14 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Compact, rugged PC packs Xeon heat, keeps cool fanlessly · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/oey6o ]		Jan 14 17:01
schestowitz	"Fanless! instabuy <3 great, hopefully for german market too"	Jan 14 17:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6962277	Jan 14 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Reform That Would Help Little Guy https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160112/16143033314/qualcomm-says-fighting-little-guy-while-really-blocking-patent-reform-that-would-help-little-guy.shtml #patents		Jan 14 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Qualcomm Says It's Fighting For The Little Guy, While Really Blocking Patent Reform That Would Help The Little Guy \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oex61 ]		Jan 14 17:02
schestowitz	"yes, imho. I have the oneplus one with Snapdragon 801 - snappy performance"	Jan 14 17:02
schestowitz	"Black Duck Software liked your Tweet "	Jan 14 17:11
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 14 17:11
schestowitz	trying to suck up to me?	Jan 14 17:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6960521	Jan 14 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For those who still believe that proprietary software can be secure and can be trusted based on brand/s, see #cisco #juniper and #fortinet		Jan 14 17:13
schestowitz	"Where else but in software would someone trust someone else more, if that person refused to show them what they were doing…"	Jan 14 17:13
schestowitz	Good point	Jan 14 17:13
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schestowitz	lol https://linuxmodder.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/bomb-threats-us-schools/	Jan 14 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com \| //PG-13 DISCLAIMER// Recent Bomb Threats against some of our most vulnerable citizens, our kids. \| Linux-modder's Tech Corner [ http://ur1.ca/oeyam ]		Jan 14 17:22
schestowitz	I thought he was being sarcastic	Jan 14 17:22
schestowitz	linking to Fox 'news', too	Jan 14 17:22
schestowitz	and "think about the children"	Jan 14 17:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "MEPIS 11 will be effectively EOL and with no	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	further development" https://t.co/CbO9iee90t	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(ostatic.com)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Ubuntu's New Feather, MEPIS Extinct, Fedora N-1 Upgrades		Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Bluetooth audio no longer accepts ALSA as the	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	output driver." https://t.co/fWS5csbd34	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(alien.slackbook.org)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org \| Alien Pastures » PulseAudio comes to Slackware-current Beta		Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Big Updates We Want From Android in 2016	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yiKYOyBMLH (gizmodo.com)	Jan 14 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| 5 Big Updates We Want From Android in 2016		Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android N: Split screen, merged Chrome OS, RCS	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	adoption and other expected features from	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	Android 7.0 https://t.co/MvoTtTU7ei	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.co.uk)	Jan 14 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeybm	Jan 14 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Android N: Split screen, merged Chrome OS, RCS adoption and other expected features from Android 7.0		Jan 14 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ScottsHumor/status/687692391650881536	Jan 14 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ScottsHumor: .@schestowitz Two years after Kiev fascist coup, Russia plans to form three west-oriented army divisions in 2016 https://t.co/JjzXNY0dMs		Jan 14 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HPC research cluster get Red Hat OpenStack	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	private cloud https://t.co/FwxnwXnNvr	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeydy	Jan 14 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| HPC research cluster get Red Hat OpenStack private cloud		Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zimbra Collaboration Suite (Open Source	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	Edition) review https://t.co/pMF7rG4lV1	Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Zimbra Collaboration Suite (Open Source Edition) review \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The only small-screened Android phone worth	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	buying is coming to the US	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5tpiCFk5He (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The only small-screened Android phone worth buying is coming to the US \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SSH Hole and Other Security News	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJdIuGN7yO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeye4	Jan 14 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SSH Hole and Other Security News \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Future Fedora upgrades https://t.co/v3ycbqiWJQ	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeye5	Jan 14 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Future Fedora upgrades \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/LkQeITw20j	Jan 14 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 17:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 17:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'gnome desktop: A settings design update https://t.co/vLZCo3iKYc https://t.co/WLb6iAdDwO...'		Jan 14 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2016/01/13/a-settings-design-update/ )		Jan 14 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center to Get a Completely New Design in Future GNOME Releases		Jan 14 17:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro Linux 15.12 (Capella) Gets Linux Kernel 4.4...'		Jan 14 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medieval II: Total War Collection released for	Jan 14 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux & SteamOS https://t.co/ldLOWXnNoZ	Jan 14 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 14 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/oeyed	Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Has Just Received a New...'		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with...'		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tiny Core piCore 7.0 Raspberry Pi Edition Now...'		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.52 LTS Has Numerous IPv6 Improvements,...'		Jan 14 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Medieval II: Total War Collection released for Linux & SteamOS \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Google #Chrome Users Will Push Content to #Chromecast...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Remix OS EULA Asks to Waive Rights to...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Devs Working to Fix Boot Problem, People...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Devs Need Feedback to Fix Screen Tearing...'		Jan 14 17:58
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS Brewmaster 2.60 Stable Update Ships with a...'		Jan 14 17:58
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 14 18:10
oiaohm	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/20/google_swallows_apps_prices_docs/ hmm Microsoft up to old games.	Jan 14 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Google swallows your Docs bill from Microsoft, pitches for user familiarity • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/oeyg4 ]		Jan 14 18:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687698452764061696	Jan 14 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Bad joke, I admit.		Jan 14 18:12
schestowitz	Never heard this one before...	Jan 14 18:12
oiaohm	The bundling deals noted in that post.	Jan 14 18:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mozilla Thunderbird 38.5.1 Just Landed in Ubuntu with...'		Jan 14 18:17
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux https://t.co/GrQKzQey5r...'		Jan 14 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nvidia Releases New Beta Driver for Linux with Support for New GPUs		Jan 14 18:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/687699939397386241	Jan 14 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz There is a curious overlap between programmers and musicians...		Jan 14 18:19
schestowitz	or writers	Jan 14 18:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/687700799477149697	Jan 14 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: The whole 'LTS' thing continues to elude Fedora project. Not that I mind - I like my bleeding-edge new shinies! :) https://t.co/UsRigfsC76		Jan 14 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Future #Fedora upgrades https://t.co/IcAmy4E62m #redhat #gnu #linux		Jan 14 18:20
schestowitz	Qt5 and KF5 bled me to death	Jan 14 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Brian Proffitt: How do you Fedora?	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/veFS9G9Iyd (fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 14 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/brian-proffitt-fedora/ )		Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Future Fedora upgrades https://t.co/n1pneHQk4J	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 14 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/future-fedora-upgrades/ )		Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The only small-screened Android phone worth	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	buying is coming to the US	Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kLIhJGMjIr (arstechnica.com)	Jan 14 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| The only small-screened Android phone worth buying is coming to the US \| Ars Technica		Jan 14 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kdenlive 15.12.1 released	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NsqBQVqlAh (kdenlive.org)	Jan 14 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdenlive.org \| Kdenlive 15.12.1 released \| Kdenlive		Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	MJ Technology https://t.co/cjl1pl0Ldu	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology		Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pretty Nasty DHCP Vulnerabilty Closed in All	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	Supported Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/oaX2ZAnKjQ	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com) not just #ubuntu but	Jan 14 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	other distros	Jan 14 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Pretty Nasty DHCP Vulnerabilty Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes		Jan 14 18:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/687701360855232512	Jan 14 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 Total idiocy. Yeah, ban it for average Joe, make everyone vulnerable; except the people they were targeting		Jan 14 18:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/687703023376818177	Jan 14 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: Well done @UbuntuTouchOS team ;) https://t.co/6UXe9HZIJ9		Jan 14 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Powerful #Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from #MJTechnology https://t.co/KaOhudPaDk #linux		Jan 14 18:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/687703135989661697	Jan 14 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz @Softpedia Great to see this on the market ;)		Jan 14 18:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/marijnvriens/status/687712632606998528	Jan 14 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marijnvriens: @schestowitz @gnutelephony @fossbytes14 it's only failed if you assume that the stated reasons are the real ones.		Jan 14 19:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687713929498238976	Jan 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Very sinister forces are at work to make sure we don't live TOO long. https://t.co/U7kRAScvcW https://t.co/jWe6KCsqWV		Jan 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Warning: BHT may make you young & crazy. Documentary proof: https://t.co/89l3JqlGr2 This message has not been approved by the FCC or SEC.		Jan 14 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another #epo #patent to help guard #monopoly on #cancer treatment https://t.co/YBG4jvowaZ see https://t.co/fMb3DGEcTK		Jan 14 19:14
schestowitz	Pensions for baby boomers	Jan 14 19:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "SCaLE 14x, we will give a talk focused on	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	helping speakers provide a more positive	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	experience for their audiences."	Jan 14 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kFjZ1y96hg (opensource.com)	Jan 14 19:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| 10 tips for providing a better conference experience \| Opensource.com		Jan 14 19:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/687724248010518530	Jan 14 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #Microsoft's cash cow is still Windows+Office sales. "about 80 percent of Microsoft profit" https://t.co/IQKEDfN5Lf cc/@schestowitz		Jan 14 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com \| Smartphones Aren't PC's Only Nemesis - Bloomberg Gadfly		Jan 14 19:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687724353232867329	Jan 14 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz So relieved Gen. M. Hayden (ret.) is coming around 2 the Light Side (...?!?), that I re-quote myself, https://t.co/AsJmXpJzoe		Jan 14 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cryptostorm_is: This is the single the best summation of 20 years of internet privacy & security progress we've read in... forever: https://t.co/65NfYSCaL6		Jan 14 19:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/687726746070691840	Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @fcassia @schestowitz But what really concerns me is WINDOWS 11.11.11 running on the Grey Goo [tm] (EU Pat. Pend.)		Jan 14 20:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/akionux/status/687728455979409408	Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@akionux: RT @schestowitz #spam and #malware exploits #letsEncrypt https://t.co/eKRb6lJsic … https://t.co/vngU0vV5TH		Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/07/n )		Jan 14 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> status.akionux.net \| Friday, 15-Jan-2016 05:10:14 JST における Akio Nishimura (akionux) のステータス - status.akionux.net		Jan 14 20:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @lollisoft favourited '"SCaLE 14x, we will give a talk focused...'		Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FOSS Events: SCaLE 14x, FOSSASIA 2016, DevConf	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/kzJvzYIoUu	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FOSS Events: SCaLE 14x, FOSSASIA 2016, DevConf 2016 \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient:	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	Vaishali Thakkar https://t.co/ZEYDTsZUqi	Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Jan 14 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Vaishali Thakkar \| Linux.com		Jan 14 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Reiser4 & ZFS Get Updated For The Linux 4.4	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel https://t.co/fU2TL2W1o6	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Reiser4 & ZFS Get Updated For The Linux 4.4 Kernel - Phoronix		Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines F2FS & XFS File-Systems Updated For Linux 4.5	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iI5D4VVMeG (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| F2FS & XFS File-Systems Updated For Linux 4.5 - Phoronix		Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 11.1.1 https://t.co/PZXbGcXIA6	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/7ixYcKCOMd	Jan 14 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Mesa 11.1.1 available, has patches for GRID Autosport \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 14 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mesa 11.1.1 3D Graphics Library Released with GRID Autosport Patches, 50 Bugfixes		Jan 14 20:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6963284	Jan 14 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology http://news.softpedia.com/news/powerful-ubuntu-tablet-is-going-on-sale-from-mj-498924.shtml		Jan 14 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Powerful Ubuntu Tablet Is Going on Sale, from MJ Technology		Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	"	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	Those are actually some pretty great specs. Shame about that crazy bezel though. :P	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	That being said, I’m always happy to see new #Linux tablets come out, particularly #Ubuntu ones.	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	"	Jan 14 20:31
schestowitz	just needs a peripheral mini-USB keyboard...	Jan 14 20:31
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schestowitz	> I will as soon as I get home & finish working with Boris making sure heś	Jan 14 21:07
schestowitz	> done with his homewor. I have my writings at my home laptop.	Jan 14 21:07
schestowitz	Some Spaniards are linking to it in social media.	Jan 14 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuCon Summit in California to Cover	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	Convergence, Gaming, IoT, and Everything Else	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FdOFvfjqhM (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 14 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| UbuCon Summit in California to Cover Convergence, Gaming, IoT, and Everything Else		Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2016 Linux Plumbers Conference Call for	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	Microconferences https://t.co/7BBHyEK6pK	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	(lwn.net)	Jan 14 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| 2016 Linux Plumbers Conference Call for Microconferences [LWN.net]		Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Auto coming to 40 car models this year	Jan 14 21:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hdQMXXyt47 (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 14 21:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| Android Auto coming to 40 car models this year \| PCWorld		Jan 14 21:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/6877455645539328024	Jan 14 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 14 22:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/687745564553932802	Jan 14 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: OK, if use coral prog simular to dos & linux more precision, safety...if u have the money, knowledge ;) linux=good2 https://t.co/LmqMNRO1KZ		Jan 14 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #AMD Seattle Support In The #Linux #Kernel Still Getting Squared Away https://t.co/WxvpsaNFhF		Jan 14 22:01
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/EnVogueRogue/status/687760944336912384	Jan 14 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Seattle Support In The Linux Kernel Still	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Squared Away https://t.co/pyweglR2tB	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 22:31
schestowitz	who own it?	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| AMD Seattle Support In The Linux Kernel Still Getting Squared Away - Phoronix		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Airtop Is One Of The Coolest Linux-Friendly	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	PCs Ever For Enthusiasts	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/evBHFBcirl (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| The Airtop Is One Of The Coolest Linux-Friendly PCs Ever For Enthusiasts - Phoronix		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Such A Community Project	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bO1BRc9kIn (www.techdirt.com)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com \| Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian Such A Community Project \| Techdirt		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial intelligence software \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FSF/GNU/GPL: GCC, Denemo, Copyleft	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EHaSwENuIv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FSF/GNU/GPL: GCC, Denemo, Copyleft \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/8EHWDLeMPr	Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manage your Linux Box with htop	Jan 14 22:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/78s8fVESkx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manage your Linux Box with htop \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian	Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	Such A Community Project	Jan 14 22:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tJpvBDpEvq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ian Murdock In His Own Words: What Made Debian Such A Community Project \| Tux Machines		Jan 14 22:33
*TweetTuxMachines @jsfour favourited 'Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G'		Jan 14 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Baidu open-sources its WARP-CTC artificial	Jan 14 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by intelligence software https://t.co/7sEUcMqU8G	Jan 14 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@brainchatbot (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 14 23:05
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MinceR	http://40.media.tumblr.com/f590931e75623a5e1f7888a3eca668b9/tumblr_ntw7xvdLx01s0lrzfo1_1280.jpg	Jan 14 23:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/687773690294067200	Jan 14 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @bastianbest @glynmoody @techdirt What's next in the list? Patent over mental acts because they can be overcome with technical?		Jan 14 23:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/687776357955317760	Jan 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @zoobab @schestowitz @bastianbest @techdirt well, quite...		Jan 14 23:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/_Canidae/status/687775791879327744	Jan 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Canidae: We really need a new company to create good OSes. https://t.co/6Y2rw0A1xh		Jan 14 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft is really trying to piss people off and make #vista10 synonymous with #malware https://t.co/jc7ZgiqIzq https://t.co/Ft7YxsfIuU		Jan 14 23:34
schestowitz	How about Linux Mint?	Jan 14 23:34
MinceR	trusting a company to create a good OS -- has he learned nothing?	Jan 14 23:37
MinceR	mint is crap	Jan 14 23:37
oiaohm	MinceR: its not that companies cannot make good OS. Historically OS built to meet USA rainbow books(a security standard) were good quality.	Jan 14 23:42
MinceR	they're merely not motivated to do so	Jan 14 23:43
oiaohm	Like no one buys a car without making sure it has a road worthy certificate.	Jan 14 23:43
MinceR	and even if one attempts to do so, m$ and crApple would kill them before they could succeed	Jan 14 23:43
MinceR	maybe even hatred would join	Jan 14 23:43
oiaohm	Yet people buy OS with making sure it design to one of the core security standards.	Jan 14 23:43
oiaohm	And has conformance tests passing.	Jan 14 23:44
oiaohm	MinceR: Linux kernel is guilty at times having good enough quality control for security reasons.	Jan 14 23:44
oiaohm	So this crappy security stuff is not just restricted to Microsoft.	Jan 14 23:45
oiaohm	Or Apple	Jan 14 23:45
oiaohm	It something over all we need to demand a lot more of.	Jan 14 23:45
MinceR	and we're getting less and less of	Jan 14 23:47
MinceR	as our computers are getting locked down and we're getting locked out of them	Jan 14 23:48
MinceR	and our software and content demands to take over control	Jan 14 23:48
MinceR	https://56.media.tumblr.com/6bcfe655a2a8ed136187906ec1f04ac3/tumblr_o0yimvpOWD1tulhy0o1_1280.jpg	Jan 14 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH	Jan 14 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	Hole https://t.co/er8KBAWsPg (techrights.org)	Jan 14 23:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH Hole https://t.co/er8KBAWsPg'		Jan 14 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 14/1/2016: Android Auto Adoption, SSH Hole \| Techrights		Jan 14 23:51
oiaohm	MinceR: more people are starting to come aware how they are locked out.	Jan 14 23:54
oiaohm	MinceR: please remember faulty(intentionally so) ACPI tables prevented Linux and BSD from working properly in fact prevented windows without extra drivers from working on them out the box.	Jan 14 23:54
oiaohm	MinceR: and that was 1996	Jan 14 23:55
MinceR	i'm seeing more people accepting being locked out the norm and even demanding it	Jan 14 23:55
oiaohm	phoninx bios has supported checksumed MBR since 1993 with the means to write checksum into flash so preventing booting any OS with a different MBR.	Jan 14 23:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jiji29z/status/687785300932820992	Jan 14 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jiji29z: @schestowitz @addhdgamer I just threw up in my mouth. 😨		Jan 14 23:56
oiaohm	MinceR: basically the lock down features were demanded all the way back in 1993.	Jan 14 23:57
MinceR	"features"	Jan 14 23:57
oiaohm	They are features in a computer lab to prevent people messing up the systems.	Jan 14 23:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/addhdgamer/status/687785502263619584	Jan 14 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@addhdgamer: @jiji29z @schestowitz ikr smh gold diggers		Jan 14 23:58
MinceR	so, "messing up" is the new word for "using"	Jan 14 23:58
MinceR	good to know	Jan 14 23:58
*MinceR goes to "mess up" his web browser		Jan 14 23:58
oiaohm	MinceR: from my point of view we need the security features but once someone opens the case you should be able to over ride it.	Jan 14 23:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Server Hardening	Jan 14 23:59
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oiaohm	Basically physical security on case bipassed on modern motherboards removing TPM is possible.	Jan 14 23:59
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oiaohm	MinceR: the big problem to me is the items like intel firmware protection where the signing key is written into motherboard chipset by fusable links so not changeable.	Jan 15 00:00
oiaohm	Also that stunt is not new either.	Jan 15 00:01
MinceR	many of those "features" are unnecessary, and could be replaced with much simpler and more effective implementations	Jan 15 00:01
MinceR	like hardware switches or read-only flash storage device ports	Jan 15 00:01
oiaohm	MinceR: you don't know my history.	Jan 15 00:01
MinceR	also, smartcard readers	Jan 15 00:01
oiaohm	In 1994 my code crippled a complete complete UNI because it was self replicatating and firmware embedding. I sent it in as a example code to demo a security flaw to a person with a PHD in Information technology.	Jan 15 00:02
MinceR	why did they let it into the wild?	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	and they did not obey my instructions of running it in a isolated network.	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	The thing restricted it spreed to local LAN.	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	If I had made the thing Internet aware it would have been major problems.	Jan 15 00:03
oiaohm	MinceR: gigabyte dual bios is designed to allow countering my example code.	Jan 15 00:04
oiaohm	MinceR: so by my history checksum checking firmware and limiting what can replace firmware is required feature. Now of course I know with possibility of key breach its also required for some direct physical method to change the key.	Jan 15 00:06
MinceR	preventing software from writing to firmware would be sufficient	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	Basically intel current implementation is missing a key feature I class as mandatory required.	Jan 15 00:07
MinceR	it would also be more secure than playing with cryptography	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	MinceR: gigabyte 1 firmware is read only and 1 is writeable so you can reset the pest always.	Jan 15 00:07
oiaohm	But you still want to prevent when updating a damaged or modified firmware without you knowing going in.	Jan 15 00:08
oiaohm	MinceR: to be truthful intel reference implementation is missing 2 features I class as mandorary. 1 means to change the signing key for firmware. 2 dual firmware with 1 firmware read only or firmware update tool(read only) and bios setup so no matter what has happened you can get a valid not infected firmware into the system.	Jan 15 00:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PositivelyJoan/status/687790178631573504	Jan 15 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PositivelyJoan: Gates Roundup: Monsanto, Colonisation of Africa, Clinton Ties and Control of Education https://t.co/pps19BokNv #Clinton #GMOs		Jan 15 00:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/687788175981424641	Jan 15 00:17
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schestowitz	Steve Job was not good...	Jan 15 00:17
oiaohm	MinceR: https://firmware.intel.com/sites/default/files/resources/A_Tour_Beyond_BIOS_Implementing_TPM2_Support_in_EDKII.pdf you know the mess about SHA1 being broken recently. This means all TPM 1.2 and before chips are now insecure.	Jan 15 00:18
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oiaohm	MinceR: the practical problem with security. When tech gets old it fails. So what ever is your security device of firmware need to be replaceable/updatability. I know this might seam like too much common sense but why could not the firmware image validation be placed in a small microcontroller embedded in the normally removable firmware chip.	Jan 15 00:23
oiaohm	You want to do your own custom firmwares buy replacement chip.	Jan 15 00:24
MinceR	because they don't want to let you do your own custom firmware	Jan 15 00:24
MinceR	they want you to be a guest on your "own" computer	Jan 15 00:24
oiaohm	Problem is if the don't want you replacing firmwares sooner or latter the method they choose to sign/check firmware will have a flaw so people can replace the firmware again.	Jan 15 00:25
oiaohm	Security is a every changing problem.	Jan 15 00:26
oiaohm	Opps ever	Jan 15 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Papo & Yo finally has a Linux version on Steam,	Jan 15 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Patches Critical OpenSSH	Jan 15 00:27
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oiaohm	MinceR: basically I want the best OS security I can have with the technology that we have. Not having means to audit firmware and update security systems around firmware does not sit well we me.	Jan 15 00:28
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oiaohm	well with me.	Jan 15 00:29
oiaohm	MinceR: its where we are different I don't want min. I want max but in my control.	Jan 15 00:29
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MinceR	oiaohm: looks like neither of us will have what we want	Jan 15 00:31
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oiaohm	MinceR: we do have problem with each other because due to my prior experence I don't see no security on firmware as a safe or sane option. What made my thing so much of a hazard is hide in firmware for 48 hours before stopping the system all that time spreeding to other machines in the network.	Jan 15 00:34
oiaohm	MinceR: so only way to remove it was basically fix all the firmware at once by bringing the complete network down and finding every single machine.	Jan 15 00:35
MinceR	i don't consider locking the user out "security"	Jan 15 00:38
MinceR	and i've seen "security" being used the excuse for DRM way too many times	Jan 15 00:39
MinceR	also, i have no illusions about security when the attacker has physical access to the computer	Jan 15 00:39
MinceR	unless the disk is encrypted and one never tries to decrypt it on any computer the attacker had physical access to	Jan 15 00:40
oiaohm	MinceR: you have never faced for against a firmware infecting virus right?	Jan 15 00:46
oiaohm	for/off	Jan 15 00:46
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 00:46
oiaohm	MinceR: basically that is where we are very different.	Jan 15 00:47
oiaohm	Basically I have. So do want barriers that are controlable around the firmware. Hard drive infections are fairly simple to deal with. Remove the harddrive.	Jan 15 00:47
oiaohm	The reality is if you asked me how would I attack the current intel setup with unlimited resources. Simple enough go to motherboard maker with some government force and demard they give me the signing keys so I can custom patch the firmware.	Jan 15 00:49
oiaohm	Now attacking a system where the buyer has had the option to replace all the keys is a lot harder problem.	Jan 15 00:50
oiaohm	MinceR: the more of a mono culture something is the simpler it is to make effective attacks.	Jan 15 00:51
oiaohm	Once attack is detected by someone and reported its a very limited time before it effectiness drops.	Jan 15 00:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glindahl/status/687860858941079553	Jan 15 09:26
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schestowitz	Yes, I don't want to waste much more time about this...	Jan 15 09:45
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oiaohm	MinceR: think how often does many to many combat happen. Its the rarity on peaceful countries. So why would you need to particularly train for it.	Jan 15 17:49
MinceR	people trying to shock you by posting links to images happens more often :>	Jan 15 17:50
oiaohm	Desensitisation training in mil is to avoid auto solo combat. The hazard with auto combat is you have no friend or enemy selection either if you are in shock from the violence.	Jan 15 17:53
oiaohm	Those training to be mil/police I can understand the need for desensitisation. Self defence is not required.	Jan 15 17:54
oiaohm	Key word "Self" as in only to protect you not to protect anyone else.	Jan 15 17:55
oiaohm	Age of desensitisation is critical. You want a person to be about 21 years old before having desensitisation training so that their moral code is solid and confirm-able before you do it. Problem with a lot of Mil training starts too young.	Jan 15 17:57
oiaohm	MinceR: the images are part self fulling proficiency. The more violence you see the more normal you will think it is so the more likely you will do violence. Now written about violence is different. Humans are controlled a lot by what they see and do than what they read.	Jan 15 18:02
MinceR	even if you don't consider violence normal, other people will	Jan 15 18:03
MinceR	and they'll do it to you.	Jan 15 18:03
oiaohm	MinceR: partly correct. Primary and High Schools that have taught combat skills see lower over all volince on school grounds. For a person to perform violence against you in majority of causes they must believe they have a chance of winning and not losing badly.	Jan 15 18:06
oiaohm	MinceR: school who has taught combat skills person thinking of being attacker considers if the possiablity of a broken arm or leg is worth it.	Jan 15 18:07
oiaohm	MinceR: this is the big problem people think combat skills are violence. They are releated yes but they are not the same.	Jan 15 18:08
MinceR	indeed	Jan 15 18:08
MinceR	_using_ them is violence, at least some of the time :>	Jan 15 18:08
oiaohm	It also depends on the taught combat skils. Particular combat skills only work if person is attacking.	Jan 15 18:09
oiaohm	Yes some of the defensive combat skills can break arms and legs.	Jan 15 18:10
MinceR	is that like defensive hand grenade? :>	Jan 15 18:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/688060326592528384	Jan 15 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Sig. @FedericaMog, Sig. @AndreaOrlandosp, Sig. @PolettiGiuliano, Sig. Federica Guidi, ci siete? Siamo tutti svegli? https://t.co/bgQUquyY61		Jan 15 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Mr Alty and Mr Denehey, when are you going to wake up and do something?" https://t.co/eyHMPDH2Pb @JohnAlty1 #epo #ukipo		Jan 15 18:12
oiaohm	MinceR: no defensive hand grenade is normally a title given to a smoke bomb or a stunt grenade. Its not like a defensive combat skill where someone punches at you and you catch punch throwing them to ground and breaking arm in process.	Jan 15 18:13
oiaohm	MinceR: the move does not work if person is not attacking.	Jan 15 18:14
oiaohm	MinceR: there is a defensive combat knife skill where you drive the knife while they are still holding it into their shoulder on the side not holding knife.	Jan 15 18:22
oiaohm	MinceR: lets just say the defensive combat skills are ouch.	Jan 15 18:22
MinceR	:)	Jan 15 18:22
oiaohm	If you know everyone around you has defensive combat skills you are way less likely to try violence.	Jan 15 18:23
oiaohm	MinceR: there are over 600 moves thare are in the defensive combat skill paybook. And all of them hurt attackers baddly.	Jan 15 18:25
schestowitz	zoobab: found it, never mind... Secondary Legislation Implementing the Unified Patent Court	Jan 15 18:27
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gde33	I just foudn the perfect wikipedia analogy. It has Doozers minecrafting randomly and Fraggles eating their structures. Gobo Wales has no education of any kind and all information about the outside world comes from Uncle Traveling Matt.	Jan 15 18:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/688076116762955776	Jan 15 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz #censorship in #india has gotten out of hand https://t.co/0tXOx0ef39		Jan 15 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> wap.business-standard.com \| Constant struggle to balance censorship, freedom of expression: Aditya Roy Kapur \| Business Standard Mobile Website		Jan 15 19:16
MinceR	"balance"	Jan 15 19:20
MinceR	like fox noise	Jan 15 19:20
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/688090282668208132	Jan 15 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Sorry about the inline streamed graphics @retroDoomer Been trying to cut that out for a while. Asked @schestowitz He doesn't know either		Jan 15 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/SczZUY74nl	Jan 15 20:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenSSH vulnerability could expose private	Jan 15 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	credentials https://t.co/M4lptivFTt	Jan 15 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 20:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Portugal’s open source move ‘slower than	Jan 15 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	expected’ https://t.co/BKUjHSi9jZ	Jan 15 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 20:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ocean is a phone-size Linux server that runs on	Jan 15 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	batteries https://t.co/jgqflAdZ7b	Jan 15 21:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.slashgear.com)	Jan 15 21:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenSSH vulnerability could expose private	Jan 15 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	credentials https://t.co/mPQuQIkk4l	Jan 15 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 15 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft Prototype Almost Ready, Developers Show	Jan 15 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	Us the Insides https://t.co/lPfIMh2Wva	Jan 15 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Software Now Available in Ubuntu 16.04,	Jan 15 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	with a PPA https://t.co/IlrDeAvGpn	Jan 15 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Partition Manager 2.0.0	Jan 15 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LGhfCW4aKc (stikonas.eu)	Jan 15 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project: No Longer Just A Chrome OS	Jan 15 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	Alternative https://t.co/SBqrOXJani	Jan 15 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Jan 15 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Project: No Longer Just A Chrome OS	Jan 15 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 3 smart GIMP tricks https://t.co/9nEnu7xLco	Jan 15 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ScyllaDB: Cassandra compatibility at 1.8	Jan 15 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	million requests per node	Jan 15 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pjktitDi4B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How open-source software could save your life	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FhPXUFxN5D (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	You Ubuntu Phone Convergence Packs, Steam	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	Controllers https://t.co/5vL0TGGCVk	Jan 15 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 21:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get You...'		Jan 15 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hyundai Announces the 2017 Elantra with Android	Jan 15 21:42
TweetTuxMachines	Auto https://t.co/nxIL7FhEVX	Jan 15 21:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 15 21:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PSA: Android Studio 2.0 Preview 5 is now out	Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Nx4OxvlvtZ (9to5google.com)	Jan 15 21:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9to5google.com \| PSA: Android Studio 2.0 Preview 5 is now out \| 9to5Google		Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Remix OS means for Android on PCs	Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/keEOkYoFRh (www.pcworld.com)	Jan 15 21:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com \| What Remix OS means for Android on PCs \| PCWorld		Jan 15 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CES 2016 Brought Us Loads of Choices for	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	Android Auto https://t.co/RHchC3SwW1	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 15 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released	Jan 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hTyYrvrSwq (it.toolbox.com)	Jan 15 22:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/688110321546862593	Jan 15 22:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mycroft Prototype Almost Ready, Developers Show Us the...'		Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Gives Away a Dell XPS 13 Ubuntu Linux	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	Laptop at UbuCon Summit 2016	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jG9n6OAKYk (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Scopes Showdown 2016 Contest Could Get	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	You Ubuntu Phone Convergence Packs, Steam	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	Controllers https://t.co/J7jI77iTE8	Jan 15 22:37
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AT&T to replace some proprietary systems with	Jan 15 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	open-source tech https://t.co/jZeHnk8wjX	Jan 15 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ciodive.com) #linux included	Jan 15 22:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AfY9BjE7VO (ostatic.com)	Jan 15 22:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android: More Leftovers https://t.co/DdKAzws5bT	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Development: Outreachy, OpenStreetMap,	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	Maps https://t.co/g993IDvtrb	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 Released	Jan 15 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QjgZQXbkNs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu (Contests, MJ Technology,	Jan 15 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	AT&T) https://t.co/uRO0Ev1ZQo	Jan 15 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 22:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FOSS From Baidu https://t.co/UrDDtFFLBz	Jan 15 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 15 23:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Adult Charter School in Texas Receives Free	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source Training https://t.co/4yMz0iejtk	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Jan 15 23:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Excellent Music Player Clementine Is Getting a	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	Massive Update, No Indication of Launch Date	Jan 15 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DRiHnqx8kT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 15 23:14
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MinceR	https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7	Jan 16 02:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE: Microsoft, Tumbleweed, and Summer of	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	Code https://t.co/rKlHPNZNT7	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/2USxKN3QfZ	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix Might be Out After Release	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DRpGDgaSSD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	Pi 2 https://t.co/KCbA9BLuwa	Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 02:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 02:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/2USxKN3QfZ	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@ChronolabsCoop	Jan 16 04:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8	Jan 16 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	(gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines	Jan 16 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X	Jan 16 06:07
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cubexyz	looks like slack is sticking with sysvinit	Jan 16 06:44
cubexyz	slackware 14.2 beta 1 has been released	Jan 16 06:44
*TweetTuxMachines @auwalup retweeted @UbuntuTopNews: 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5 Hotfix...'		Jan 16 06:54
cubexyz	oiaohm, does current firefox _have_ to have P4 or newer SSE2?	Jan 16 07:08
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msb_	Great Michael Mann "hacker" movie, beautiful cinematography, shows Linux booting up. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2717822/combined	Jan 16 07:40
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I have not looked closely how mozilla builds.	Jan 16 07:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@UbuntuTopNews Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Hotfix M... https://t.co/ReqG5Gv6U8	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@Dedo_Mraz (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachines	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KuqIcXsI0X	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5lq	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y2QHK0UmuG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5lr	Jan 16 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "These days, Microsoft doesn’t need SUSE	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	anymore" https://t.co/DGEGuNmN6P	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(fossforce.com)	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5ma	Jan 16 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android On The Desktop https://t.co/siMoUlzbRa	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidpolice.com) https://t.co/4RpeNkMhW1	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(theindianrepublic.com)	Jan 16 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mb	Jan 16 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PhoenixOS is (another) Android-as-a-desktop	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yel6aJDXDW (liliputing.com)	Jan 16 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mc	Jan 16 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jide Technology brings #android to desktops	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5xuqDCdiuS (e27.co)	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TXyXViTdzs (e27.co)	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HVkIRDK6wB	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Jan 16 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mv	Jan 16 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e27.co \| Ex-Googlers want to bring the Android ecosytem to PC		Jan 16 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e27.co \| Jide Technology		Jan 16 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| Jide Builds List Of User-Voted "Best Apps For Remix OS" \| Androidheadlines.com		Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Offers Promo Code Options for Android	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	App Developers https://t.co/zhvNNeazGJ	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.eweek.com)	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5mx	Jan 16 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 schedule, DevConf.cz, looking back at	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	2015, and modularization	Jan 16 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/g8lyuzbrTa (fedoramagazine.org)	Jan 16 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ease eye strain and Sleep easier with Redshift	Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1Ya2dVb6WN (www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 16 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated	Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JxR6ySwIOM	Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxandubuntu.com)	Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5nn	Jan 16 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com \| Fedora 24 Release Schedule Has Been Updated - LinuxAndUbuntu		Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/sOSQyUhmsg	Jan 16 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxvoice.com)	Jan 16 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Enters Final Freeze, OTA-9.5	Jan 16 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	Hotfix Might be Out After Release	Jan 16 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ouxSbfJ4Ye (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5nx	Jan 16 09:53
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schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452907305682#c2276033095202536301	Jan 16 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of5o2 ]		Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	Dear Merpel,	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	it may be abuse of Blogspot protocol, but I believe there is good reason to change the heading of the post into 'Heart-Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded'.	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	@ Mork and @Disgusted examiner: is a person who is proven to be in blatant disrecpect of fundamental human rights still worthy of a public office, such as a "conseiller municipal"?	Jan 16 09:55
schestowitz	Kind regards,	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	George Brock-Nannestad	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452910629177#c58285839509536044	Jan 16 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of5o3 ]		Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	@Cat:	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"The ILOAT dispute resolution procedure usually takes years. Probably, the EPO internal procedure, before the ILOAT, also takes time."	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	Nowadays there is no internal appeal against disciplinary decisions, so the dismissals (and the downgrading) are appealable directly to the ILOAT.	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	One could hope for accelerated treatment of dismissal cases by the ILOAT. That also seems to be its practice, at least until recently. Many older dismissal cases were decided within 1.5 years with most of that time being spent on two rounds of submissions. But the more recent case of Judgment No. 3297, for example, took about 3.5 years from the filing of the complaint.	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 09:56
schestowitz	lots about EPo to come out today...	Jan 16 09:56
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wikileakBot/status/688306781936697344	Jan 16 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileakBot: RT @schestowitz UK Classifies Spending on Policing #Wikileaks Founder After Scandal https://t.co/PsEjNAGMQI #uk #assange #witchhunt #police		Jan 16 10:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu/Debian (EOL, GNOME, Tor)	Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0uIonDx11S (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5rn	Jan 16 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu/Debian (EOL, GNOME, Tor) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/XuKafw2niY	Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5ro	Jan 16 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/hAQBu962ma	Jan 16 11:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5rp	Jan 16 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/Da3x4MFPos	Jan 16 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5rz	Jan 16 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/eCxfK0GsCj	Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5s0	Jan 16 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/ZTWlNClPm1	Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5s2	Jan 16 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/1/2016: Ocean, Fedora Delays, Moksha	Jan 16 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Desktop 0.2.0 https://t.co/OApmjlMyRP	Jan 16 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Jan 16 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5sj	Jan 16 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 16/1/2016: Ocean, Fedora Delays, Moksha Desktop 0.2.0 \| Techrights		Jan 16 11:31
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Linux Delayed, the Distribution Will Be...'		Jan 16 11:37
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/eCxfK0GsCj'		Jan 16 11:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chasgaming/status/688326884975874048	Jan 16 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chasgaming: Interesting read! What's your opinion on #Bitcoin? https://t.co/uzJD1j61Qu		Jan 16 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘Bitcoin Has Failed’, Says Lead Developer Who Just Quit https://t.co/87b8ThLXbz #bitcoin		Jan 16 11:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AnnieMachon/status/688330101826711552	Jan 16 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AnnieMachon: A must-read. https://t.co/TZw03yEWU6		Jan 16 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past https://t.co/WzAci18DoJ		Jan 16 12:04
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/ZTWlNClPm1'		Jan 16 12:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @briketaro favourited 'Inside The Ubuntu Phone https://t.co/sOSQyUhmsg'		Jan 16 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxvoice.com/inside-the-ubuntu-phone/ )		Jan 16 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu	Jan 16 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux to a City Near You	Jan 16 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dDalmi5HJr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of5we	Jan 16 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to a City Near You \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 12:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/688345162712510464	Jan 16 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz @SputnikInt Classified as "It's embarrassing so hush now and go away."		Jan 16 13:07
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schestowitz	[09:56] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/realramnit/status/688298735990902784	Jan 16 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realramnit: RT @schestowitz #Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/NGp0wMmKAE #ubuntu #linux		Jan 16 14:18
schestowitz	[09:57] [Notice] -TechrightsBN to #boycottnovell- @realramnit: RT @schestowitz #Lubuntu Xenial Xerus (with LXQt) in a Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/NGp0wMmKAE #ubuntu #linux	Jan 16 14:18
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schestowitz	[10:41] <-- pidgin_log (~roy@host86-136-252-39.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) has left this server (Quit: Leaving.).	Jan 16 14:18
schestowitz	[12:29] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/harlechnnorfolk/status/688337176128569345	Jan 16 14:18
schestowitz	[14:04] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/votepori/status/688359226914160640	Jan 16 14:18
schestowitz	[14:18] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/688351768170885120	Jan 16 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/ )		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@harlechnnorfolk: @schestowitz just shared your tweet on my site: https://t.co/2AcHa5z8yn		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rebelmouse.projectbrainsaver.com \| projectbrainsaver - Just talk!		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@votepori: fucking red jumpsuit apparatus literally shutting the entire building down. https://t.co/sI4dr8pnAK		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Brits who are worries about what the #epo is doing right now should write to representatives: john.alty@ipo.gov.uk sean.dennehey@ipo.gov.uk		Jan 16 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz @fossbytes14 so no Linux or BSD?		Jan 16 14:20
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/688366054029062144	Jan 16 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz Do you mean @JohnAlty1 ?		Jan 16 14:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to...'		Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BTC dev: ‘Strangling’ the #blockchain will kill	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	#Bitcoin https://t.co/FWjfi2TWL1	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk) both #linux dominated	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of65g	Jan 16 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| BTC dev: 'Strangling' the blockchain will kill Bitcoin • The Register		Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical’s Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux to a City Near You	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pWs15wLArX (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of65h	Jan 16 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Canonical's Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to a City Near You		Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steel, Password Managing the CLI Way	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NbF2gaFJU2 (thelinuxrain.com)	Jan 16 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of65i	Jan 16 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelinuxrain.com \| The Linux Rain - Steel, Password Managing the CLI Way		Jan 16 14:40
*TweetTuxMachines @FGraillot favourited 'BTC dev: ‘Strangling’ the #blockchain will kill #Bitcoin...'		Jan 16 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RdOj32tu5a (arstechnica.com)	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tEEFm0mMG2 (fossbytes.com)	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of66l	Jan 16 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 \| Ars Technica		Jan 16 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Future Processors From Intel And AMD Will ONLY Support Windows 10		Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Casio Unveils First Android Smartwatch At CES	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	2016 https://t.co/qOsBTGdr0i	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.christianpost.com)	Jan 16 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/of66m	Jan 16 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christianpost.com \| Casio Unveils First Android Smartwatch At CES 2016		Jan 16 14:52
cubexyz	ok, that sounds very bad	Jan 16 14:59
cubexyz	"Future Processors from intel and AMD will only support windows 10"	Jan 16 15:00
cubexyz	sounds kind of wrong actually	Jan 16 15:00
XRevan86	> fossbytes	Jan 16 15:02
XRevan86	what does "foss" mean here?	Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-from-epo-suepo-officials.html?showComment=1452948093550#c4135262706960241237	Jan 16 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Breaking News from the EPO - SUEPO officials fired, downgraded [ http://ur1.ca/of67i ]		Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 15:02
cubexyz	it's the only windows version supported they should say	Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	Details of the mock trials are emerging:	Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Jan 16 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO - Techrights		Jan 16 15:02
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 15:02
XRevan86	> Future Processors from intel and AMD will not support windows older than 10	Jan 16 15:03
XRevan86	that's how news should be	Jan 16 15:03
cubexyz	the way it's worded it sounds like everything but windows is locked out	Jan 16 15:03
cubexyz	yeah	Jan 16 15:03
cubexyz	M$ is fighting very hard to get everyone on win10	Jan 16 15:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: But why news-site called "fossbytes" ignores GNU/Linux?	Jan 16 15:04
XRevan86	I only know "FOSS" as in "Free Open Source Software"	Jan 16 15:04
XRevan86	it must mean something else here	Jan 16 15:04
cubexyz	they are pretty new	Jan 16 15:05
cubexyz	tech media startup from India	Jan 16 15:06
cubexyz	and they don't ignore linux	Jan 16 15:06
cubexyz	http://fossbytes.com/getting-started-with-linux-part-1-choosing-a-distribution/	Jan 16 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Getting Started With Linux : Part-1 (Choosing a Distribution) [ http://ur1.ca/of67z ]		Jan 16 15:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: Why did they in the Wintel news?	Jan 16 15:07
cubexyz	put them in a similar category to http://www.howtogeek.com	Jan 16 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| How-To Geek - For Geeks, By Geeks.		Jan 16 15:07
cubexyz	trying to cover all the bases I guess	Jan 16 15:08
cubexyz	wintel is passé	Jan 16 15:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: I expected them to be English OpenNET	Jan 16 15:11
XRevan86	> Future Processors from intel and AMD will only support windows 10	Jan 16 15:12
XRevan86	but this is just FOSS-ignorant	Jan 16 15:12
cubexyz	there's two FOSSes I'd say	Jan 16 15:12
cubexyz	there's hard FOSS... that is source code for everything including BIOS	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	we usually fall quite short of that	Jan 16 15:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: They don't qualify on either.	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	there's middle of the road FOSS, that's Linux/BSD, so the BIOS is closed but the OS is FOSS at least, and applications are FOSS	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	fossbytes is FOSSlite :)	Jan 16 15:13
cubexyz	ok, that's three FOSSes	Jan 16 15:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: They still don't qualify %)	Jan 16 15:14
cubexyz	FOSSlite is when you're OS is closed, but you still use FOSS applications on the closed source OS (along with closed source BIOS)	Jan 16 15:14
XRevan86	there level of FOSS'ness is somewhere in "okay, let's use Notepad++ instead of Notepad"	Jan 16 15:14
cubexyz	I didn't say it was good :)	Jan 16 15:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'd classify differently	Jan 16 15:15
XRevan86	FLOSS, FOSS, OSS	Jan 16 15:15
XRevan86	also FOSS: copyleft FOSS and permissive (defenceless) FOSS	Jan 16 15:18
cubexyz	opennet.ru jumps into cyrillic when I do a search	Jan 16 15:18
cubexyz	but it looks more interesting that fossbytes that's for sure	Jan 16 15:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: Probably a thing because they use KOI8-R %).	Jan 16 15:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's a really good site. Pity it's local (not international).	Jan 16 15:19
XRevan86	one just need to learn not to read comments there %)	Jan 16 15:20
cubexyz	right, that's one of the reasons why some people don't like the BSD license	Jan 16 15:27
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oiaohm	cubexyz: wine project history is example where BSD style licenses can go wrong.	Jan 16 17:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: defencelessness?	Jan 16 17:10
oiaohm	XRevan86: do you know the history that happened with Wine.	Jan 16 17:10
XRevan86	oiaohm: Which one?	Jan 16 17:11
oiaohm	http://wiki.winehq.org/WineHistory	Jan 16 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.winehq.org \| WineHistory - The Official Wine Wiki		Jan 16 17:12
oiaohm	XRevan86: transgaming vs Codeweavers 2001 while wine project was a MIT style licenese.	Jan 16 17:13
XRevan86	oiaohm: Ah, proprietary Wine derivatives.	Jan 16 17:13
XRevan86	That's what happens when one uses non-copyleft licences, yes.	Jan 16 17:14
oiaohm	Worse the developer aquirement bidding war between the two companies.	Jan 16 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	January, according to Samsung MD	Jan 16 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22 January, according to Samsung MD \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	January, according to Samsung MD	Jan 16 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F960CLprdf (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jan 16 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung Z1 to get Tizen 2.4 FINAL as Soon as 22 January, according to Samsung MD - Tizen Experts		Jan 16 17:16
oiaohm	By 2002 Codeweavers was in the horible position of having to consider going closed source or getting some license on the source code they released to prevent compeitors beating them to customers so leaving them short of funds to pay developers.	Jan 16 17:17
oiaohm	XRevan86: so there is some quite nasty ramifcations for a company that can happen by using non-copyleft.	Jan 16 17:17
oiaohm	Basically if you are planing to sell support and add on services on a open source project you use a copyleft license of some form or get hurt.	Jan 16 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Want Freedom To Choose Your Hardware? Choose	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux. https://t.co/v1hPUlQQhO	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Jan 16 17:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Want Freedom To Choose Your Hardware? Choose GNU/Linux. \| Robert Pogson		Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Experiences with Wasteland 2: Director's Cut	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	On Linux https://t.co/QHbH7hclG9	Jan 16 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 16 17:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| My Experiences with Wasteland 2: Director's Cut On Linux - Phoronix		Jan 16 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!	Jan 16 17:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org \| Black Lab Linux: Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!		Jan 16 17:33
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dour	nice spam	Jan 16 17:46
schestowitz	huh?	Jan 16 18:02
schestowitz	where?	Jan 16 18:02
dour	the bot	Jan 16 18:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.	Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nng1y1FUT7	Jan 16 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com \| 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.		Jan 16 18:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical’s Ubuntu Day Event Brings Ubuntu Linux to...'		Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released!	Jan 16 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab 8 "Onyx" is released! \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics (GLVND, Drag-n-Drop)	Jan 16 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Graphics (GLVND, Drag-n-Drop) \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released.	Jan 16 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux 16.0 BETA released. \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 18:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/688434157865840641	Jan 16 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Proxies and VPNs to be blocked by Netflix @schestowitz https://t.co/SH4hpBqQZW		Jan 16 18:56
schestowitz	dour: gives news updates	Jan 16 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> betanews.com \| Proxies and VPNs to be blocked by Netflix		Jan 16 18:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966262	Jan 16 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrorism In #Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/15/when-terror-in-europe-was-common		Jan 16 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reason.com \| Terrorism In Europe is Less Common and Less Deadly Than in the Recent Past -- And Doesn't Justify Expanded Repressive Surveillance - Hit & Run : Reason.com [ http://ur1.ca/of6wc ]		Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	Just Street Crime shows rise…	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	ps: Interesting Correlation between Terror Wave and the End of Soviet Union: ‘no money - no fun’	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	"	Jan 16 19:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6966236	Jan 16 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Peter shows how, after #uefi , #intel helps #microsoft impose spyware on everyone http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/skylake-users-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/ http://fossbytes.com/microsoft-pcs-with-intel-skylake-processors-wont-support-windows-78-1/		Jan 16 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/of6wm ]		Jan 16 19:28
schestowitz	"Well I guess there will be more switching to linux then . Someone should step up and start manufacturing arm based pcs , to overcome uefi shit ."	Jan 16 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com \| Future Processors From Intel And AMD Will ONLY Support Windows 10 [ http://ur1.ca/of6wn ]		Jan 16 19:28
schestowitz	That's optimistic analysis of antitrust violations, IMHO	Jan 16 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/hES5eKywAD	Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DbqRMQkF2Z	Jan 16 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 19:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/DbqRMQkF2Z'		Jan 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/YgkoJmipwz	Jan 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 20:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 20:10
schestowitz	http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/chelsea_clinton_takes_a_shot_at_bernie_sanders_20160116/	Jan 16 20:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/YgkoJmipwz	Jan 16 21:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing	Jan 16 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp (linuxg.net)	Jan 16 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes \| LinuxG.net		Jan 16 21:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Cipherhouse retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp'		Jan 16 21:36
*TweetTuxMachines @ChronolabsCoop retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GScan2PDF 1.3.7 Has Been Released, Bringing Changes https://t.co/J8bbwClNxp'		Jan 16 21:36
schestowitz	http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-lxqt-in-a-raspberry-pi/	Jan 16 21:45
schestowitz	I think I crashed this site when linking to it	Jan 16 21:45
schestowitz	it must be a VERY weak server	Jan 16 21:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lubuntu 16.04 LTS will use kernel 4.4 LTS	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2BtsvqZ0uF (error) testers sought	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dHSbqsGCUn (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Jan 16 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus 1.0 Budgie Desktop	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dSE7NHvshh (www.youtube.com)	Jan 16 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Quod Libet GTK Based Audio Player and Tag	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	Editor for Linux https://t.co/W8MR0B8ozw	Jan 16 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.noobslab.com)	Jan 16 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| How You Can Help Test the New Ubuntu Software Center		Jan 16 22:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.noobslab.com \| `Quod Libet` GTK Based Audio Player and Tag Editor for Linux - NoobsLab \| Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps		Jan 16 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Finding the Perfect Linux Laptop	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QzADWoNq7b (shkspr.mobi)	Jan 16 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2016/01/finding-the-perfect-linux-laptop/ )		Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SMPlayer 16.1 Released, Adds Video Bookmarking	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/N8EO9tfWpq (www.hecticgeek.com)	Jan 16 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| SMPlayer 16.1 Released, Adds Video Bookmarking		Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SolydXK 2015.12	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AJ96jHK9Al (www.youtube.com)	Jan 16 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| SolydXK 2015.12 - YouTube		Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Convergence Device To Be Announced	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Next Month? https://t.co/BZvdwRSq1b	Jan 16 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk) Mobile World Congress	Jan 16 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| New Ubuntu Convergence Device Will Be Demoed Next Month		Jan 16 22:24
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/40v28h/zfs_on_linux_finally_accepted_on_debian/	Jan 16 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| ZFS on Linux finally accepted on Debian! : linux [ http://ur1.ca/of7ei ]		Jan 16 22:26
schestowitz	cubexyz: http://netboot.xyz/	Jan 16 22:40
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schestowitz	I think it may be new	Jan 16 22:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688492161579511808	Jan 16 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Been running solydx and solydk on machines for past 5 years. Only complaint is in kde I have to drop down into recovery to boot		Jan 16 22:48
schestowitz	KDE is having tough times at the moment. I dumped it after 16 years (3 weeks ago). Now plain openbox.	Jan 16 22:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BBCMOTD/status/688488515089379332	Jan 16 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BBCMOTD: John Terry has scored four PL own-goals for Chelsea, more than any other #CFC player https://t.co/TxcuNt6pDj #MOTD https://t.co/Whdy32vTjo		Jan 16 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| Match of the Day Social - BBC Sport		Jan 16 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BBCMOTD: John Terry has scored four PL own-goals for Chelsea, more than any other #CFC player https://t.co/TxcuNt6pDj #MOTD https://t.co/Whdy32vTjo		Jan 16 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MyPaint 1.2.0 Open Source Digital Painting Tool	Jan 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	Is Out After Three Years of Development	Jan 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/14LxkuZUN8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines group test: BSD Distros https://t.co/bdWrc59OGY	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| group test: BSD Distros \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo	Jan 16 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YQKajhJOYz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 16 23:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Dekko Email Client for Ubuntu Phones Looks Awesome, Here's a Convergence Demo \| Tux Machines		Jan 16 23:05
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/688505252388179968	Jan 16 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Looking to explore qubes next when I find time. Read the Main_Page, do you have good review link for openbox ?		Jan 16 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bedrock Linux 1.0beta2 Nyla Major Features	Jan 16 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AZczE2xIdA (bedrocklinux.org)	Jan 16 23:54
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