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DaemonFCI went to Elgin today on the Metra.Jul 17 00:13
DaemonFCKilled the time on the train to catch Pokemon.Jul 17 00:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754489406929633280Jul 17 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Advancements in Gnome Games: multi-disk support Jul 17 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JwNNMzmJdV (rgascons.cc)Jul 17 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rgascons.cc | Advancements in Gnome Games: multi-disk supportJul 17 01:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754502632656412673Jul 17 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/yPKPhF6fkt (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesJul 17 01:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/754585920356179968Jul 17 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: And coincidentally with a self-induced coup in Turkey. https://t.co/muvbevHxHzJul 17 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: After a lot of pressure & gossip #obama had to release documents about Saudi regime's role in 9/11, released it late Friday on holiday weekJul 17 04:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrisMcCallen/status/754595745378996224Jul 17 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrisMcCallen: @sfmnemonic @schestowitz @TelegraphNews worst pm ever. She is NOT for the peopleJul 17 04:57
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schestowitz> No, I hadn't heard of it. Just had a look. It seems to be stuck in 2013.Jul 17 05:40
schestowitz> Jul 17 05:40
schestowitz> FWIW, I'm a big fan of open-source - our patent attorney records areJul 17 05:40
schestowitz> managed using an open source system, and I regularly contribute toJul 17 05:40
schestowitz> debugging and developing it. But I also think that software should beJul 17 05:40
schestowitz> patentable in the same way as any other type of technical activity. TheJul 17 05:40
schestowitz> problem is that patent offices aren't up to the challenge of judgingJul 17 05:40
schestowitz> inventiveness when it comes to software. The prior art databases areJul 17 05:40
schestowitz> woefully inadequate, and the examiners are not knowledgeable enough (IJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> should know - I was one). So, clever patent attorneys were able to runJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> rings around the examiners, and applications were getting granted whichJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> shouldn't. Instead of investing in developing their prior art databases,Jul 17 05:41
schestowitz> and training new examiners, the patent offices chose to cheat by hidingJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> behind Art. 52(2)(c) EPCJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> <https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/2013/e/ar52.html>Jul 17 05:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | Article 52 – Patentable inventions - The European Patent Convention, Convention on the Grant of European Patents – (European Patent Convention), Part II – Substantive patent law, Chapter I – PatentabilityJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> whenever possible. A new criterion of patentability was formed -Jul 17 05:41
schestowitz> "technical character", and a whole new examination approach graduallyJul 17 05:41
schestowitz> took root, based largely on assertions about what is and isn't technical.Jul 17 05:41
schestowitzYes, but taking this one step further:Jul 17 05:41
schestowitz Jul 17 05:41
schestowitzIf examiners cannot identify what software is novel as it moves forward too fast and so much of it exists...Jul 17 05:41
schestowitzHow can a software developer be aware of existing patents, work around them, etc.Jul 17 05:41
schestowitzThis is why, in practice, software patents are inadequate. There are other reasons.Jul 17 05:41
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2016-07-09Jul 17 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ted Has Fly Brain - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2016-07-09 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJul 17 05:49
MinceR17 044312 < schestowitz> AuxitJul 17 05:49
MinceRbauxiteJul 17 05:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754603374201495555Jul 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Linux explained https://t.co/fadaj6GdQpJul 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techphylum.com)Jul 17 06:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solus Linux explained | TECHPHYLUM.COMJul 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754605860328968192Jul 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 IBM Launches Blockchain Cloud Services On Linux ServerJul 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uS5fUYrr1b (www.cryptocoinsnews.com)Jul 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OCu3VrcG5a (www.indiainfoline.com)Jul 17 06:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cryptocoinsnews.com | IBM Launches Blockchain Cloud Services On Linux Server - CCN: Financial Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency NewsJul 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiainfoline.com | IBM launches new blockchain cloud ‘IBM LinuxONE’Jul 17 06:16
schestowitz> I'm not aware of any reason why software shouldn't be treated the sameJul 17 06:26
schestowitz> as other technical fields - apart from the practical difficulty ofJul 17 06:26
schestowitz> examining it. There are other technologies which move forward just asJul 17 06:26
schestowitz> fast, if not faster. What's missing is a decent set of tools forJul 17 06:26
schestowitz> assessing inventiveness. This would allow the inventiveness threshold toJul 17 06:26
schestowitz> be set high enough so that spurious applications would not get through.Jul 17 06:26
schestowitz> In theory, anyway...Jul 17 06:26
schestowitzDon't be offended by my question, but did you write computer programs? There is rarely something too innovative about them, unless they pertain some some specialised scientific discipline which is, in its own right, patentable.Jul 17 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754620708479610880Jul 17 06:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain on GNU/Linux https://t.co/JodB2dnGT6Jul 17 06:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 06:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blockchain on GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 17 06:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754626047795224576Jul 17 06:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 06:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 06:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 17 06:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain on LinuxONE | TechrightsJul 17 06:50
*TweetTuxMachines @ReddBazaar retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain...'Jul 17 06:52
*TweetTuxMachines @BTCBitBot favourited 'Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain...'Jul 17 06:52
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain...'Jul 17 06:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7619005Jul 17 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Jul 17 06:55
schestowitz"hit us bushie one more time"Jul 17 06:55
schestowitzshock and awesomeness..Jul 17 06:55
schestowitzhttps://67.media.tumblr.com/e181b5e00b1e337e87d604cb85c9a38d/tumblr_oagaue2zKW1qj88rjo1_1280.jpgJul 17 07:00
schestowitzhttps://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13592233_929303867181927_5586603163669988851_n.jpg?oh=57a5b7e8b6eca463f995ecec6873d037&oe=581F1643Jul 17 07:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/754639670764445696Jul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 17 07:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754641322728828928Jul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/a77fkdxgstJul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 07:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754641323446022144Jul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Devices https://t.co/EREEEBcfOqJul 17 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 07:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux MachinesJul 17 07:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754641324159053824Jul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Development News https://t.co/pYE7rHhNkZJul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 10:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News | Tux MachinesJul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754641325174075392Jul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/QWu0s2PxHYJul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 10:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesJul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754641325954207745Jul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/1bPUvgOJLMJul 17 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 10:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 17 10:44
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schestowitzResearcher-: you showed up and remained idle for two weeks now in all our channelsJul 17 13:44
schestowitzwho are you researching for?Jul 17 13:44
schestowitzbecause it feels like this is the behavious one might expect from a spy, not a researcherJul 17 13:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/SemprePhi/status/754710663059079168Jul 17 13:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 13:51
TweetTuxMachines @SemprePhi      Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 13:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 17 13:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain on LinuxONE | TechrightsJul 17 13:51
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MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13726764_1748862385392616_5147162320027346721_n.jpg?oh=571aa88981a1f71fb3ef51477717a87d&oe=5824FF38Jul 17 14:44
schestowitzusefulJul 17 14:53
schestowitzas this related to EPOJul 17 14:53
MinceRhow?Jul 17 14:54
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schestowitzbattistelli does thisJul 17 14:55
schestowitzfaking attacksJul 17 14:55
schestowitzhe has 6 bodyguards nowJul 17 14:55
schestowitzand people are afraid of himJul 17 14:55
schestowitzI will use a portion of this image laterJul 17 14:55
MinceRi seeJul 17 14:56
MinceR:)Jul 17 14:56
schestowitzmaybe in an hour...Jul 17 14:56
schestowitzMinceR: http://techrights.org/2016/07/17/persistratos-bodyguards-image/Jul 17 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Benoît Battistelli and Persistratos | TechrightsJul 17 15:04
schestowitzreaders will get itJul 17 15:04
schestowitzResearcher- (iana@gtld.ovh)  might be a spyJul 17 15:06
schestowitzbut I hope I'm wrongJul 17 15:06
MinceR:)Jul 17 15:07
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MinceRhttp://66.media.tumblr.com/26205b70d8ee0106abfca3f3b7be29fb/tumblr_mgndv9fpT11s3ouomo1_400.jpgJul 17 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754757995968344064Jul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That’s Known About theJul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia’s Secret Upcoming Phone https://t.co/CvyDrJIbGiJul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That’s Known About the Nokia’s Secret Upcoming Phone | Tux MachinesJul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754772583472590848Jul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft’s Windows RT security patch also stops you fromJul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 loading Linux  https://t.co/Yq99M8sTZH (liliputing.com)Jul 17 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft's Windows RT security patch also stops you from loading Linux - LiliputingJul 17 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754772773201932288Jul 17 16:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That’s Known About theJul 17 16:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia’s Secret Upcoming Phone https://t.co/uNmJLmH6slJul 17 16:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techworm.net)Jul 17 16:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techworm.net | Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That's Known About the Nokia's Secret Upcoming Phone » TechWormJul 17 16:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754778743374221312Jul 17 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated https://t.co/5AeV7ZtzHjJul 17 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 17 16:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated - PhoronixJul 17 16:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754779064448217088Jul 17 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 FreeType 2.7 Bringing DirectWrite/ClearType-LikeJul 17 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Rendering -- Much Better Looking Fonts On LinuxJul 17 16:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aeXf9AovYo (www.phoronix.com)Jul 17 16:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeType 2.7 Bringing DirectWrite/ClearType-Like Rendering -- Much Better Looking Fonts On Linux - PhoronixJul 17 16:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754780439433322496Jul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Extraction support in NautilusJul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/2ZiYkctW7w (razvanchitu.wordpress.com)Jul 17 17:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-razvanchitu.wordpress.com | Extraction support in Nautilus – razvanchituJul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754780814303490048Jul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Undertale now available for SteamOS & Linux and it's onJul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 sale https://t.co/XNgwWZQL7L (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Undertale now available for SteamOS & Linux and it's on sale | GamingOnLinuxJul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754781155405234176Jul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Lovecraftian Horror Game "Conarium" Confirmed For LinuxJul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IoHIHWSWvw (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 17 17:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lovecraftian Horror Game "Conarium" Confirmed For Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 17 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754782725052178432Jul 17 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 How to Install openSUSE Tumbleweed on Acer Chromebook 15Jul 17 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QEzgPelZJB (freedompenguin.com)Jul 17 17:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com | How to Install openSUSE Tumbleweed on Acer Chromebook 15 - Freedom PenguinJul 17 17:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754783605650579456Jul 17 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes https://t.co/M6lZNX2YkKJul 17 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Jul 17 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixesJul 17 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754784443911565313Jul 17 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 The sad state of Linux download securityJul 17 17:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nXFjmna2TG (worldwidemann.com)Jul 17 17:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-worldwidemann.com | The sad state of Linux download securityJul 17 17:08
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4t8d48/rhel_workstation_vs_server_for_rhce/Jul 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | RHEL Workstation vs Server for RHCE : linuxJul 17 17:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754784682965921792Jul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                 GIMP and LibreOffice on Ubuntu PhoneJul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/muouwaNPi2 (www.youtube.com)Jul 17 17:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GIMP and LibreOffice on Ubuntu Phone - YouTubeJul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754785025787326464Jul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.2.1 Releases Tomorrow https://t.co/OrexycvfRnJul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (solus-project.com)Jul 17 17:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com | This Week in Solus – Install #32 | SolusJul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754785980515753984Jul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "The Linux networking stack has a limit on how manyJul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                 packets per second it can handle."Jul 17 17:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XH4A7xDbaR (blog.cloudflare.com)Jul 17 17:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cloudflare.com | Why we use the Linux kernel's TCP stackJul 17 17:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lovecraftian Horror Game "Conarium" Confirmed For Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 17 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795881199570944Jul 17 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated https://t.co/PEw2s24H0zJul 17 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 17:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated | Tux MachinesJul 17 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795881920995328Jul 17 17:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/gJDqFPgAfJJul 17 17:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 17:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 17 17:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795883435130880Jul 17 17:56
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Notes and Blurbs https://t.co/4fcPTAVaMkJul 17 17:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Notes and Blurbs | Tux MachinesJul 17 17:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795882701205504Jul 17 17:56
TweetTuxMachines                 CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes https://t.co/RxRqUv8eEQJul 17 17:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/754796799907467264Jul 17 18:10
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TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        (www.dedoimedo.com)Jul 17 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixesJul 17 18:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754798929028481024Jul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines                 What you need to know about Android 'Nougat'Jul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/hetvgGnZze (www.12news.com)Jul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What you need to know about Android 'Nougat' | 12NEWS.comJul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754799855294353408Jul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat adds SDN support to latest cloud managementJul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines                 platform https://t.co/ZeddCrS5TZ (www.networksasia.net)Jul 17 18:11
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networksasia.net | Red Hat adds SDN support to latest cloud management platform | Networks Asia | Asia's Source for Enterprise Network KnowledgeJul 17 18:11
MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754168_1830347307199428_5702498279823287528_n.jpg?oh=8b102c931806965f87fd42478ae819f0&oe=5836C5C7Jul 17 18:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754800547388067840Jul 17 19:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Analysts Are Expecting this Stock to Rise: Red Hat, Inc.Jul 17 19:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (NYSE:RHT) https://t.co/qJUIPyKd82 (telanaganapress.com)Jul 17 19:32
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telanaganapress.com | Analysts Are Expecting this Stock to Rise: Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Telanagana PressJul 17 19:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754820397669969920Jul 17 19:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/nSes09yhJxJul 17 19:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 19:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 17 19:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/754821118272372736Jul 17 20:03
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/nSes09yhJxJul 17 20:03
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 20:03
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TweetTuxMachines@OpenSourceTpNws  http://twitter.com/OpenSourceTpNws/status/754828972408446976Jul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/URNCr5aMqfJul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesJul 17 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain on LinuxONEJul 17 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/CertDepot/status/754832572178239488Jul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes https://t.co/RxRqUv8eEQJul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines @CertDepot      (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 20:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834109101244417Jul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian News https://t.co/WsV0DeC6Go (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 20:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834109810081792Jul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/YP5gYjkDvLJul 17 20:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834110510538752Jul 17 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/nzXeloG2FzJul 17 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834111257194497Jul 18 02:21
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/40Acg2HkU1Jul 18 02:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 02:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 02:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834112251256832Jul 18 02:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/MY7kzmU0g7Jul 18 02:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 02:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 18 02:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/joles4019/status/754821933405876224Jul 18 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joles4019: I believe this to be happening! https://t.co/UEBR13QKV9Jul 18 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dennis Cooper fears #censorship as #Google erases blog without warning https://t.co/82n8trR1q7 https://t.co/gWvYilMnXT cc @ipkatJul 18 02:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754912411451269120 https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754912700061409280 https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754914059217145856Jul 18 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz dont forget also "black people and white people shouldnt marry". my brotherinlaw's 1st wife was black in 70s, never forgave AliJul 18 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz if you thought journalists had it bad before where they could get jailed for saying wrong things: you aint seen nothing yet.Jul 18 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz NoAgenda played newscast from day earlier,saying 8 guns stolen @ pawshop: threats 2 kill cops w/ them. City knew this was cominJul 18 02:58
schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754915063551655937Jul 18 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | TwitterJul 18 02:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754915063551655937Jul 18 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz Pix?Jul 18 02:59
schestowitzMaybe later as it's not complete yetJul 18 02:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7621790Jul 18 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@meitar@joindiaspora.com: Notice how we call these "bomb robots" now? Used to be "bomb DISPOSAL robots." Funny that. Company stock is up, tho. https://twitter.com/CNET/status/754758700154355713Jul 18 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CNET: Republican convention gets 'bomb robots' like the one used against the Dallas shooter https://t.co/knPUAOqs9a https://t.co/roJxs3ktwJJul 18 03:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/754932355169656832Jul 18 03:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/MY7kzmU0g7Jul 18 03:35
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 03:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/754727496390680576Jul 18 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: Death penalty announced, purge of judicial system, threats against journalists. Seems democracy in #turkey is working as planned. #sarcasmJul 18 03:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RFSolutionsLtd/status/754668510450683904Jul 18 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RFSolutionsLtd: We have 5 pairs of our powerful 16km GAMMA module to giveaway. Share or re-tweet this post to be entered in the draw https://t.co/uiDadZYaGWJul 18 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RFSolutionsLtd: We have 5 pairs of our powerful 16km GAMMA module to giveaway. Share or re-tweet this post to be entered in the draw https://t.co/uiDadZYaGWJul 18 03:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/754956575765241858Jul 18 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz BTW, thx 4 sharing Seattle GNU/Linux Conf https://t.co/DxHJqpkoms pondering on showcasing #Reiser4 ;-) https://t.co/G6QO8mYyl3Jul 18 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> alg0rhythm.livejournal.com | Submit presentations for Seattle GNU/Linux Conference - Socratic ThinkingJul 18 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DebianBug: New bug: 831286 - #installation-reports - installation-reports: Reiser4 (SFRN 4.0.1) linux-image-4.6.0-1+reiser4.... https://t.co/Ki0AdbkbhkJul 18 04:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754942519494971393Jul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux https://t.co/ng5VeRfcRDJul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Jul 18 04:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux • The RegisterJul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754948572332777472Jul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux https://t.co/oKqhLxI9CaJul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 04:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux | Tux MachinesJul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754952681022783489Jul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Lite 3.0  https://t.co/4M06L4uIzT (error)Jul 18 04:55
TweetTuxMachines Jul 18 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Jul 18 04:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754962676401446912Jul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft blocks Linux installationsJul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ulJUq72qTi (www.techeye.net)Jul 18 06:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techeye.net | Microsoft blocks Linux installations – TechEyeJul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754979862989897728Jul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7Jul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3brYLBdW9t (techrights.org)Jul 18 06:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7 | TechrightsJul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989210512134144Jul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 06:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989211430719488Jul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/CghX3cvabfJul 18 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 06:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 06:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989212332531712Jul 18 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/h4HxugHdqDJul 18 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 06:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 06:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989213095829504Jul 18 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora News https://t.co/yAJb7GKn0d (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 06:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora News | Tux MachinesJul 18 06:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989214010224640Jul 18 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/BCUcQ9hHpMJul 18 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 10:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 10:18
cubexyzosmo is an awesome little programJul 18 11:10
cubexyzuses gtk Jul 18 11:11
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razielle_tzuwhat's it for?Jul 18 11:29
cubexyzah, I was looking for a calendar program... but it's more than that... Jul 18 11:29
cubexyza bit like korganizer but not as bloatedJul 18 11:29
razielle_tzuoh coolJul 18 11:30
cubexyzevidently Osmo is a common finnish first nameJul 18 11:36
razielle_tzuyeahJul 18 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755055182359191552Jul 18 12:27
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7Jul 18 12:27
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/3brYLBdW9t (techrights.org)Jul 18 12:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7 | TechrightsJul 18 12:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076538819760128Jul 18 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded HardwareJul 18 13:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XpGi7nhTvN (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 13:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded Hardware | Tux MachinesJul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076539667001344Jul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Prometheus unbound: Open source cloud monitoringJul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/k5XM4QH8Vr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines Jul 18 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Prometheus unbound: Open source cloud monitoring | Tux MachinesJul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076951799271424Jul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded HardwareJul 18 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ENBylUOdpn (www.linux.com)Jul 18 13:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded Hardware | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJul 18 13:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755098794367168512Jul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical and Proprietary Forums Software (Again Cracked)Jul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YIqpaldWUj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 15:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Proprietary Forums Software (Again Cracked) | Tux MachinesJul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755098795105320961Jul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Splice Machine 2.0 combines HBase, Spark, NoSQL,Jul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 relational...and goes open source https://t.co/sASYgZ7e6VJul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines Jul 18 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Splice Machine 2.0 combines HBase, Spark, NoSQL, relational...and goes open source | Tux MachinesJul 18 15:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755122496622383104Jul 18 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with GlusterJul 18 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 and OpenShift https://t.co/9FjyyAke0IJul 18 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 16:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with Gluster and OpenShift | Tux MachinesJul 18 16:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/755148309812109312Jul 18 17:17
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 17:17
TweetTuxMachines @jesusguevarauto  (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 17:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 18 17:17
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 18 17:30
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, pingJul 18 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/755149489166508032Jul 18 18:33
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 18:33
TweetTuxMachines @GUSLSanFelix   (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 18:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/755150068035051520Jul 18 18:33
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/aF7ZuXz3nBJul 18 18:33
TweetTuxMachines @GUSLSanFelix   (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 18:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 18 18:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Jack96Uncle/status/755155115762393091 Jul 18 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jack96Uncle: @schestowitz @CraigFitzsimon1 Does this mean we will have to dim down our intellectual and humour level.Jul 18 18:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CraigFitzsimon1/status/755155435221639169Jul 18 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CraigFitzsimon1: @Jack96Uncle @schestowitz think the most salient lesson is perhaps not to take *everyone* as they may appear, sadly.Jul 18 18:37
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cubexyzyeah just realized the Sony Bravia HDTV I have also has ARM CPUJul 18 20:12
cubexyzthere's really no intel monopoly nowJul 18 20:14
cubexyzfixing my first washing machine today :)Jul 18 20:19
cubexyzor fixed ratherJul 18 20:19
cubexyzI've got quite a collection of technology from the 1990'sJul 18 20:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/755196007244263425Jul 18 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I guess that rules out twerking which would be a felony! 😀Jul 18 20:28
razielle_tzuwhat was wrong with the washing machine cubexyz?Jul 18 20:35
cubexyzit was vibrating like crazy and walking across the floorJul 18 20:35
razielle_tzuso... the drum had shifted?Jul 18 20:36
cubexyzI don't think so, but I'm not 100% sureJul 18 20:37
cubexyzI installed a damping kit and checked the springs, and releveled the feetJul 18 20:37
razielle_tzufairJul 18 20:38
cubexyzprobably not 100% fixed, but useableJul 18 20:38
cubexyzprobably needs the bearing kit tooJul 18 20:38
razielle_tzuso long as it's useable :)Jul 18 20:38
cubexyzthere's a lot of DIY repair sites now, so that's helps a lotJul 18 20:40
cubexyzs/that's/that/Jul 18 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines                 Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are BackJul 18 21:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are Back | Tux MachinesJul 18 21:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755189156603506689Jul 18 21:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 6 Desktop Linux Blunders https://t.co/FxHR1PbmaxJul 18 21:09
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schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/jurasick/status/755211384179331072Jul 18 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | TwitterJul 18 21:26
schestowitzHDMI to VGA, I have 3 nowJul 18 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 Rugged, fanless computer runs Ubuntu on HaswellJul 18 21:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WAYWLQNsuQ (hackerboards.com)Jul 18 21:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Rugged, fanless computer runs Ubuntu on HaswellJul 18 21:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755209086833229826Jul 18 21:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Demo Wireless Convergence on Bq M10 TabletJul 18 21:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Demo Wireless Convergence on Bq M10 Tablet - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 18 21:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755209587796668416Jul 18 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 "Machinery is a command line application for creatingJul 18 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 descriptions of Linux systems and working with them."Jul 18 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/X4suLYUNoSJul 18 21:36
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cubexyzok, this is a bit scary...Jul 18 21:38
cubexyzTony Schwartz ghostwrote "The Art of the Deal" for TrumpJul 18 21:39
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cubexyzand here's what he says about Trump:Jul 18 21:39
cubexyz"I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization."Jul 18 21:39
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schestowitzcubexyz: well, it's not that simpleJul 18 22:39
schestowitzeven if he has the nuclear codes, he then needs to compel others to agreeJul 18 22:39
schestowitzand if the grounds for attack aren't there, he won't get permissionJul 18 22:39
cubexyzwell good :)Jul 18 22:39
schestowitzmajor question is, will he get along with RussiaJul 18 22:39
schestowitzmaybeJul 18 22:40
schestowitzNot sure about ChinaJul 18 22:40
schestowitzgiving his strong antichina rhetoricJul 18 22:40
schestowitzthe main problem with Rump is, how will he treat non-European (descent) in the US?Jul 18 22:42
schestowitzOr what will his rhetoric allow the locals to do to blacks, Arabs, etc.?Jul 18 22:42
schestowitzObama was not too bad on these groundsJul 18 22:42
schestowitzalthough he was very militaristic outwards, against foreign nationsJul 18 22:42
schestowitzSo was ClintonJul 18 22:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755214498244558848Jul 18 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with GlusterJul 18 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 and OpenShift https://t.co/ABm1H5ELhw (thevarguy.com)Jul 18 22:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are BackJul 18 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0m4iXwt5mO (freedompenguin.com)Jul 18 22:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755230337748328448Jul 18 22:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 6 Desktop Linux Blunders https://t.co/KnsSBt35reJul 18 22:44
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schestowitzcubexyz: "nuclear codes" is Hollywood speak anywayJul 18 22:44
schestowitzbecause of the way they frame the storyJul 18 22:44
schestowitzwith very old systemsJul 18 22:44
schestowitzlike mainframesJul 18 22:44
cubexyzmainframes are still used thoughJul 18 22:45
schestowitzit's likely some military generals who would call the shots anywayJul 18 22:45
schestowitzor tell Rump what to doJul 18 22:45
cubexyzat least the fortune 500 companies use themJul 18 22:45
schestowitz"the Russian will attack soon, yada yada, based on reliable info, so put in the code immediately"Jul 18 22:45
cubexyzand I assume NSA uses mainframes :)Jul 18 22:45
schestowitzsome missiles are not run on automated response systemsJul 18 22:45
schestowitzso they can fire with no (or minimal) human interventionJul 18 22:45
schestowitzin case of unprovoked first strikeJul 18 22:46
cubexyzhmmmmJul 18 22:46
schestowitzmissiles travel fasyJul 18 22:46
schestowitzsome US missiles in germany and maybe even Poland now would only take minutes (airbourne) to reach MoscowJul 18 22:46
schestowitzfar faster than planesJul 18 22:46
schestowitzand can go above the stratosphere for stealthJul 18 22:47
schestowitzthan drop down fast on top of targetJul 18 22:47
schestowitzand move sideways to dodge interceptors of all kindsJul 18 22:47
schestowitznuclear codes is old techJul 18 22:47
schestowitzBTWJul 18 22:47
schestowitzFrom the newsJul 18 22:47
cubexyzthat is worrisomeJul 18 22:47
schestowitzwhich may relate to Canada and N Ireland:Jul 18 22:47
schestowitz!google 13 times tridentJul 18 22:48
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJul 18 22:48
cubexyzno wonder the doomsday clock is 3 minutes to midnightJul 18 22:48
schestowitzI think the bot stopped working, maybe Google blocks themJul 18 22:48
schestowitzhttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/a-recent-report-showed-13-times-nuclear-weapons-were-almost-launched-accidentally-its-time-to-scrap-a7141296.htmlJul 18 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Nuclear weapons have almost been launched accidentally 13 times – it’s time to stop believing in the fantasy that Trident keeps us safe | Voices | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4a ]Jul 18 22:48
schestowitzThat's from days agoJul 18 22:48
cubexyzcan you switch to a different search engine maybe?Jul 18 22:48
schestowitzlast month: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/secret-work-on-new-nuclear-warhead-reignites-trident-row-8kmwwrqq9Jul 18 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Secret work on new nuclear warhead reignites Trident row | News | The Times & The Sunday Times [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4d ]Jul 18 22:48
schestowitzcubexyz: could do, maybeJul 18 22:49
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_%28missile%29Jul 18 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trident (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4h ]Jul 18 22:49
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missileJul 18 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Intercontinental ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4i ]Jul 18 22:49
schestowitz"The development of the world's first practical design for an ICBM, A9/10, intended for use in bombing New York and other American cities, was undertaken in Nazi Germany by the team of Wernher von Braun under Projekt Amerika. The ICBM A9/A10 rocket initially was intended to be guided by radio, but was changed to be a piloted craft after the failure of Operation Elster. The second stage of the A9/A10 rocket was tested a few times in January Jul 18 22:50
schestowitzand February 1945. The progenitor of the A9/A10 was the German V-2 rocket, also designed by von Braun and widely used at the end of World War II to bomb British and Belgian cities. All of these rockets used liquid propellants. Following the war, von Braun and other leading German scientists were relocated to the United States to work directly for the US Army through Operation Paperclip, developing the IRBMs, ICBMs, and launchers."Jul 18 22:50
schestowitz"The high speeds of the warheads make them difficult to intercept and allow for little warning, striking targets many thousands of kilometers away from the launch site (and due to the possible locations of the submarines: anywhere in the world) within approximately 30 minutes."Jul 18 22:51
schestowitz"Many authorities say that missiles also release aluminized balloons, electronic noise-makers, and other items intended to confuse interception devices and radars."Jul 18 22:51
schestowitz"Russia, the United States, China and India are the only countries currently known to possess land-based ICBMs, Israel has also tested ICBMs but is not open about actual deployment."Jul 18 22:52
schestowitz"The United States currently operates 450 ICBMs in three USAF bases. The only model deployed is LGM-30G Minuteman-III."Jul 18 22:52
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_deliveryJul 18 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn57 ]Jul 18 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nuclear weapons delivery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn59 ]Jul 18 22:53
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-30_MinutemanJul 18 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | LGM-30 Minuteman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn5a ]Jul 18 22:53
schestowitz"Approximately 17507 mph (Mach 23, or 28176 km/h, or 7 km/s) (terminal phase)"Jul 18 22:53
schestowitzAnd this one is very old techJul 18 22:53
schestowitzMach 23Jul 18 22:53
schestowitzthere's virtually no response time, other than to fire backJul 18 22:54
schestowitzif you can detect it at allJul 18 22:54
schestowitz!google us romania missle defenceJul 18 22:54
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJul 18 22:54
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-shield-idUSKCN0Y30JX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_missile_defence_systemJul 18 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. activates Romanian missile defense site, angering Russia | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pgn5i ]Jul 18 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | NATO missile defence system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn5j ]Jul 18 22:54
schestowitz"The RVs and chaff re-enter the atmosphere at high speeds and are armed in flight.'Jul 18 22:57
schestowitz7 KM per secondJul 18 22:57
schestowitzyou can barely even visualise thisJul 18 22:57
schestowitzthat's near impact timeJul 18 22:57
schestowitzwhen it accelerates towards the targetJul 18 22:57
schestowitzBush's stupid defence system, I think, strives to stop an earlier phaseJul 18 22:57
schestowitzabove atmospheric altitudeJul 18 22:58
schestowitzBut it wouldn't work as you would send up many fake onesJul 18 22:58
schestowitzlike cluster bombsJul 18 22:58
schestowitzand then overwhelm the system with targetsJul 18 22:58
schestowitzObama just signed off another trillion dollars to modernise thisJul 18 22:58
schestowitzas if it's too antiquatedJul 18 22:59
schestowitzPhase thee after just 180 seconds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Minuteman_III_MIRV_path.svgJul 18 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Minuteman III MIRV path.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 18 23:00
schestowitzand then it races like mad, downwardsJul 18 23:00
schestowitzpossible multiple warheadsJul 18 23:00
schestowitzall nuclearJul 18 23:00
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cubexyzok, a bit confusing but I got x2x working on all three computers :)Jul 18 23:04
cubexyzacross linux and bsd machines tooJul 18 23:06
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cubexyzwhat's up with msb?Jul 18 23:06
cubexyzhe hasn't said anything or responded since ...early May I thinkJul 18 23:10
schestowitzMarkBilk__: yoJul 18 23:10
schestowitzcubexyz: well, he's here 'in spirit'Jul 18 23:10
MarkBilk__I'm here!Jul 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755231698170810368Jul 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Mint 18-beta "Xfce" released https://t.co/RvDU2b2wWyJul 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxmint.com)Jul 18 23:11
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cubexyzbtw here's the dirty tricks page:Jul 18 23:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755236211195805696Jul 18 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 GDC Europe survey shows 17% of developers plan to releaseJul 18 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux titles https://t.co/fzRdRYsIvSJul 18 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 18 23:12
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MarkBilk__Running PCLinuxOS in VirtualBox on a schmindows laptop.Jul 18 23:12
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txtJul 18 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GDC Europe survey shows 17% of developers plan to release Linux titles | GamingOnLinuxJul 18 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755236484224081920Jul 18 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Ballistic Overkill FPS updated, lots of changes and stillJul 18 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 works great https://t.co/DB5Kfio1L1Jul 18 23:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 18 23:13
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cubexyzI haven't adding anything to it lately thoughJul 18 23:14
cubexyzs/adding/added/Jul 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ballistic Overkill FPS updated, lots of changes and still works great | GamingOnLinuxJul 18 23:14
cubexyzI made this pic yesterday to help educate the younger linux people:Jul 18 23:14
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/importance-of-bsd.pngJul 18 23:15
schestowitzMarkBilk__: windows at home?Jul 18 23:15
schestowitzhopefully not some hospital or somethingJul 18 23:15
schestowitzin the US one can go bankrupt staying in a hospital just one nightJul 18 23:15
schestowitz(those living by making ends meet anyway, i.e. about 60% IIRC)Jul 18 23:16
MarkBilk__Finally back home.  But Linux desktop won't turn on.Jul 18 23:16
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MarkBilk__cubexyz: I link to your ms-dirtytricks page on my Linux page.Jul 18 23:26
cubexyzobviously the latest dirty trick was forced downloads of windows 10Jul 18 23:27
cubexyzI know it must be rather tedious to rehash all this M$ stuffJul 18 23:29
cubexyzbut it's probably good to remind people about it from time to timeJul 18 23:29
cubexyza couple of big changes I've noticed this year...Jul 18 23:31
cubexyzmost computer stores have Chromebooks and Android boxes nowJul 18 23:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755238662363836416Jul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Lost Sea action and adventure game released for Linux,Jul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 some thoughts https://t.co/ZXc5b2HGu5Jul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 18 23:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lost Sea action and adventure game released for Linux, some thoughts | GamingOnLinuxJul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755239261746634752Jul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Kingdom Rush Frontiers coming to Linux after the initialJul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows launch https://t.co/EhYawdMuJSJul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 18 23:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kingdom Rush Frontiers coming to Linux after the initial Window launch | GamingOnLinuxJul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755240094097936384Jul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Undertale now available for Linux on GOGJul 18 23:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T75XpqX5OX (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 18 23:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Undertale now available for Linux on GOG | GamingOnLinuxJul 18 23:35
cubexyzthe games have come along nicelyJul 18 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755244413803048961Jul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/i2UN4clpgwJul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755250953343922176Jul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Enter new tool for newbie: Handy LinuxJul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7JHLSLNPgP (northbridgetimes.com)Jul 19 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-northbridgetimes.com | Enter new tool for newbie: Handy Linux – North Bridge TimesJul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755251962426355712Jul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 System Shock Remaster Linux Demo Released, SystemJul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Requirements Shared https://t.co/TFBJzwwIYgJul 19 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (techfrag.com)Jul 19 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System Shock Remaster Linux Demo Released, System Requirements Shared - TechFragJul 19 00:05
schestowitzMarkBilk__: cubexyz microsoft loves linux http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-releases-patch-to-block-linux-from-running-on-the-original-surface-rt-506398.shtmlJul 19 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Microsoft Releases Patch to Block Linux from Running on the Original Surface RTJul 19 00:06
schestowitzone among half a dozen new articles about itJul 19 00:06
cubexyzwe're not going to buy hardware which is hostile for our purposes...Jul 19 00:10
cubexyzI went on record in 1987 that I didn't like windows...Jul 19 00:11
cubexyzI assume that some hacker will figure it out though... eventuallyJul 19 00:17
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MarkBilk__With the uncensored worldwide communication enabled by the Web, it's only a matter of time til predatory capitalist corporate practices like this are recognized by most of Earth's population.  So Microshit is digging its own grave with such actions.Jul 19 00:22
schestowitzyes, indeedJul 19 00:27
schestowitzit's not as though they prevent many people anywayJul 19 00:27
schestowitznever met anyone who bought a Microsoft-branded crap like this... for Linux or even for WindowsJul 19 00:28
cubexyzwell there was a problem with PS3 firmware later on as wellJul 19 00:36
*TweetTuxMachines @argumento_ favourited 'System Shock Remaster Linux Demo Released, System Requirements...'Jul 19 00:38
cubexyzwintel isn't dominating any moreJul 19 00:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755256469021483008Jul 19 00:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Final Developer Preview before Android 7.0 Nougat beginsJul 19 00:38
TweetTuxMachines                 rolling out  https://t.co/xiQYEdRsgCJul 19 00:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (android-developers.blogspot.co.uk)Jul 19 00:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-android-developers.blogspot.co.uk | Final Developer Preview before Android 7.0 Nougat begins rolling out | Android Developers BlogJul 19 00:38
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36242/Jul 19 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: What Kind of Commitment?: Skype Announce Brand New Linux Client, Now In AlphaJul 19 00:42
schestowitz"I don't see any other reaffirmation of their commitment to the community but to kill Linux. They haven't given up yet and they are in the extend stage. I don't believe them until they abandon Windows and use Linux. Releasing native versions of their application for Linux could be a first step."Jul 19 00:42
schestowitz"Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzI would take that line of thinking a step further. For me the issue is all about who controls my computer or device. When I use Linux then I clearly have control. I don't see Microsoft ever yielding control to their users. It will always be Microsoft in control, and what they release in the name of "loving linux" will never ever cause control to leave Microsoft's hands.Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzWhen Microsoft struck a deal to have someone put bash on Windows, Microsoft lost no control whatsoever and users were left with all the lower layers remaining closed and secret always with the hope that in Windows 11 things will somehow get better. It really doesn't matter much if Microsoft decides to offer some FOSS components, they will just be wagging the end of the tail with Microsoft staying in charge of the animal.Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzRegarding the idea of Microsoft "releasing native versions of their application for Linux", to me running closed and secret Microsoft applications in my Linux machines would compromise my control of those machines, and therefore I will never under any circumstance permit it. For the record, I removed Skype from my Linux machines the day its sale to Microsoft was announced, and I terminated my membership in LinkedIn the day their MS sale was Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzannounced.Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzI am so very pleased that running a pure-FOSS Linux system gives me full control of my machines. Nothing that MS can do will cause me to give up the control I now enjoy. Jul 19 00:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755260572300697600Jul 19 00:42
schestowitz"Jul 19 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Design for Linux Engineers by Grant LikelyJul 19 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Vxa04kXjse (www.linux.com)Jul 19 00:42
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schestowitz"Jul 19 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hardware Design for Linux Engineers by Grant Likely | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJul 19 00:42
schestowitzThere will be no Windows 11. Their current strategy is to make Windows 10 a rolling release. So, currently Windows 10 is supposed to be the last Windows version ever. (We'll see how long marketing can tolerate that.)Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzBusiness features have been relegated to Windows 10 Enterprise which will cost $7/month/PC.Jul 19 00:42
schestowitzWindows Server 2016 licenses are also transitioning into subscriptions. Jul 19 00:43
schestowitz'Jul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261585573093376Jul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/2UpPAO2WLjJul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 00:43
schestowitz"So, what percentage of the desktop market is Linux again? Why would Microsoft really be releasing a beta for 1-2% of the market?"Jul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 00:43
schestowitz"Darn right! Nothing other than M$'s bad old EEE maybe disguised for a spell in sheep's clothing, but still thrown right back at you/us.'Jul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261586378403841Jul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Enter new tool for newbie: Handy LinuxJul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DcR3CLk78H (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 00:43
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enter new tool for newbie: Handy Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 00:43
cubexyzexcept they aren't running a "pure foss machine" Jul 19 00:44
cubexyzI only have one computer that I can say is "pure foss"Jul 19 00:44
cubexyzdid they compile their own firmware? no?Jul 19 00:44
cubexyznot pure fossJul 19 00:44
cubexyzand the BIOS creators are largely in the M$ campJul 19 00:46
cubexyzor if you prefer... the UEFI makers are in M$'s camp even more than beforeJul 19 00:47
cubexyzSurface isn't even on the radarJul 19 00:50
cubexyzhere's my boot screen for my foss-box:Jul 19 00:53
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bootsplash.jpgJul 19 00:53
cubexyzit's not so much that you write all your own firmware.. that's extremely hardJul 19 00:55
cubexyzbut you should be able to compile/assemble itJul 19 00:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261588022566912Jul 19 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Qt WebBrowser 1.0 https://t.co/YO6MRcnwUhJul 19 02:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt WebBrowser 1.0 | Tux MachinesJul 19 02:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261588844589056Jul 19 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel/Graphics https://t.co/P7VthdOUkXJul 19 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 02:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel/Graphics | Tux MachinesJul 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755280879027625984Jul 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Breeze everywhere https://t.co/nAJWxMvM3pJul 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (timotheegiet.com)Jul 19 02:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timotheegiet.com | Breeze everywhere | Animtim – Timothée Giet weblogJul 19 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines                 Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it getsJul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sDawgvNmBI (www.dedoimedo.com)Jul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it getJul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755285539008417792Jul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon OS, a review https://t.co/6IEMsb13b2Jul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.reddit.com)Jul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | KDE Neon OS, a review : linuxJul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755285882551304192Jul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Ten Steps to Linux Survival https://t.co/alzTnyharBJul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.oreilly.com) available as free PDF downloadJul 19 02:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/npHMGLsBYF (www.oreilly.com)Jul 19 02:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oreilly.com | Ten Steps to Linux Survival - O'Reilly MediaJul 19 02:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 iOS 10 vs. Android Nougat: New Features & TweaksJul 19 04:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Compared, https://t.co/Z0J1RlDWh9Jul 19 04:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.knowyourmobile.com)Jul 19 04:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knowyourmobile.com | iOS 10 vs. Android Nougat: New Features & Tweaks Compared | Know Your MobileJul 19 04:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317918590644224Jul 19 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/RxhZX3K8xyJul 19 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 04:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesJul 19 04:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317919467180032Jul 19 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it getsJul 19 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xaRfeK3Yyz (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 04:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it gets | Tux MachinesJul 19 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317920348024832Jul 19 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/1pWkxGh3HgJul 19 06:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317921052700672Jul 19 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/74tWPCvtJbJul 19 06:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 19 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755354349149224960Jul 19 06:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Korora 22 Is About to Reach EOL https://t.co/eCUMvTisVHJul 19 06:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (kororaproject.org)Jul 19 06:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://kororaproject.org/about/news/korora-22-is-about-to-reach-eol )Jul 19 06:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva 3.0 Release Candidate 1Jul 19 07:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KxEMl3ELV3 (sourceforge.net)Jul 19 07:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMandriva Lx - Browse /3.0/RC at SourceForge.netJul 19 07:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755354444687110144Jul 19 07:22
TweetTuxMachines                 mageia has a wallpaper chosen https://t.co/lJccZbL3XnJul 19 07:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.mageia.org)Jul 19 07:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | And the winner is…. | Mageia Blog (English)Jul 19 07:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362240279175168Jul 19 07:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/oDbU4Ge8nSJul 19 07:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJul 19 07:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362240996356096Jul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/j07XTWXBxmJul 19 07:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesJul 19 07:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/N7cdPlpfLOJul 19 07:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362242426613760Jul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/iwHiZU1NpLJul 19 07:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362243718422528Jul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Respinning Linux https://t.co/xPyx8DjO9AJul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 07:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Respinning Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 07:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755363041659785216Jul 19 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera BuyoutJul 19 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eNg6ft9acY (techrights.org)Jul 19 08:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera Buyout https://t.co/eNg6ft9acY'Jul 19 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera Buyout | TechrightsJul 19 08:09
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/BU6OvJul 19 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh, Steven. You silly man. - Album on ImgurJul 19 08:59
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/cxReFox.pngJul 19 09:10
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cubexyzjust sad:Jul 19 10:45
cubexyzhttp://modernfarmer.com/2016/07/right-to-repair/Jul 19 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-modernfarmer.com | Farmers Demand Right to Fix Their Own Dang Tractors - Modern FarmerJul 19 10:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with aJul 19 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 shockingly low $99 price https://t.co/UAeY4doePGJul 19 11:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with a shockingly low $99 price | Tux MachinesJul 19 11:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755425035368693760Jul 19 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Nautilus Is Adding Native Archive ExtractionJul 19 11:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/B4la6ZDdNl (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 19 11:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Nautilus Is Adding Native Archive Extraction - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 19 11:33
razielle_tzuugh it's so hot i've only just rolled out of bedJul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755425257176129537Jul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 The Meizu MX6 Made Official, Ubuntu Edition ‘Coming Soon’Jul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hnGxduIB7E (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 19 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | The Meizu MX6 Made Official, Ubuntu Edition 'Coming Soon' - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755426255361671169Jul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Respinning Linux https://t.co/bJ1faj74PQ (fossforce.com)Jul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Respinning Linux | FOSS ForceJul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755426402879537153Jul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with aJul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 shockingly low $99 price https://t.co/xRa5k6423jJul 19 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com)Jul 19 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with a shockingly low $99 priceJul 19 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755427049402146816Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3VSPT1AsVS (www.zdnet.com)Jul 19 12:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-​The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13 | ZDNetJul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755427466966102016Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands-on with the Linux-ready Dell XPS 13 DeveloperJul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                 EditionJul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/27Uprn4ewi (opensource.com)Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-on with the Linux-ready Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition | Opensource.comJul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755432317510782977Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LThacECOxC (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:01
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13 | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:01
MinceRdHell crap againJul 19 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755432318475472896Jul 19 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/BkR3I2P6OuJul 19 13:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesJul 19 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454395840466944Jul 19 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Hardware https://t.co/hIo7s90iAxJul 19 13:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware | Tux MachinesJul 19 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454396553498624Jul 19 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Big Data/Hadoop https://t.co/HSaF1ffGJpJul 19 13:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! https://t.co/vQCyjiASjBJul 19 13:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! | Tux MachinesJul 19 13:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454398000529408Jul 19 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Can you name these Linux distributions?Jul 19 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bc1jvHlmPF (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 13:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can you name these Linux distributions? | Tux MachinesJul 19 13:56
*TweetTuxMachines @icedov favourited 'Open Hardware https://t.co/hIo7s90iAx'Jul 19 15:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @tdelvecchio favourited 'Big Data/Hadoop https://t.co/HSaF1ffGJp'Jul 19 16:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755498542974676994Jul 19 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro nowJul 19 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 available -- 32-bit ISO dead https://t.co/p1SvOMjqMXJul 19 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro now available -- 32-bit ISO dead | Tux MachinesJul 19 16:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro now available...'Jul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755519978741207040Jul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry PiJul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 clone https://t.co/AuoIaI3bkz (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry Pi clone | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755519979533979648Jul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 How To Upgrade to Linux Mint 18 https://t.co/nDwcA7KT61Jul 19 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Upgrade to Linux Mint 18 | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755559487843491841Jul 19 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! https://t.co/Orcs32YmhiJul 19 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.openmandriva.org) https://t.co/3DKPEFZWZlJul 19 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 19 20:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.openmandriva.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! » OMA blogJul 19 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 Released - PhoronixJul 19 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755559675068833792Jul 19 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Can you name these Linux distributions?Jul 19 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nvaHqA8fu8 (www.computerworld.com)Jul 19 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can you name these Linux distributions? | ComputerworldJul 19 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755560015445057536Jul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro nowJul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 available -- 32-bit ISO dead https://t.co/RjiWY7yIm5Jul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com)Jul 19 20:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro now available -- 32-bit ISO deadJul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755560139323764736Jul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry PiJul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 clone https://t.co/grcK82eFii (hackerboards.com)Jul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Coin-sized COM could be world's smallest Raspberry Pi cloneJul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755561184317800448Jul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview QuestionsJul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD (fossbytes.com)Jul 19 20:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions Jul 19 20:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755562120201248773Jul 19 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Cossacks 3 release date announced, Linux release delayedJul 19 20:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KRKjPa7QCd (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cossacks 3 release date announced, Linux release delayed | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755562278368534528Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Virtual Programming tease the Overlord Linux port in aJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 new video https://t.co/as1DIlTZ0K (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virtual Programming tease the Overlord Linux port in a new video | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755563196359053312Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux version of VIDEOBALL being blocked by publisher,Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 developer comments on it https://t.co/3LYdQYpO2vJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux version of VIDEOBALL being blocked by publisher, developer comments on it | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755563561578094592Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux demo of the System Shock remake is now available onJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 GOG https://t.co/vj60CEK0qX (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux demo of the System Shock remake is now available on GOG | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755563838402101248Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 95 Patches Ready The Intel Mesa Driver For OpenGL 4 OnJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Haswell https://t.co/unV3GjGTSb (www.phoronix.com)Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-95 Patches Ready The Intel Mesa Driver For OpenGL 4 On Haswell - PhoronixJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755564018769813504Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Offers Great Performance On LinuxJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lPvb4qL0hF (www.phoronix.com)Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Offers Great Performance On Linux - PhoronixJul 19 20:45
*TweetTuxMachines @VSXu favourited '95 Patches Ready The Intel Mesa Driver For...'Jul 19 20:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755564725497462786Jul 19 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenTomb is an open source game engine for Tomb RaiderJul 19 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 1-5 https://t.co/Z2QYdxE1ke (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:50
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenTomb is an open source game engine for Tomb Raider 1-5 | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755565015302803466Jul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 The programmer of Antraxx, a massively multiplayer mechJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 shooter says Linux is a definite optionJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6a6FMBqAEK (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The programmer of Antraxx, a massively multiplayer mech shooter says Linux is a definite option | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755565160023134208Jul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Rogue Islands, a fast-paced shooter set in a proceduralJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 fantasy world from Big Fat Alien will come to LinuxJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a3VQxxQ8dz (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 20:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rogue Islands, a fast-paced shooter set in a procedural fantasy world from Big Fat Alien will come to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755567081949696002Jul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 “Microsoft broke my father’s computer: it made him updateJul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 to Windows 10” https://t.co/jLJ1jhQ394Jul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (pavelmachek.livejournal.com) #vista10Jul 19 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Jul 19 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pavelmachek.livejournal.com | Google play store playing with GPS?: pavelmachekJul 19 20:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - TechrightsJul 19 20:58
cubexyzlook, microsoft can't force anything on you if you don't run windowsJul 19 21:02
cubexyzbtw openbsd forces nothing Jul 19 21:04
cubexyzeverything is pulled not pushedJul 19 21:04
cubexyzit doesn't even install X by defaultJul 19 21:05
cubexyzin 1994 installing Minix or Linux or some alternative OS was kind of difficultJul 19 21:10
cubexyzok openbsd will require some thinking, no question...Jul 19 21:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755567289018310656Jul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 "openSUSE members are mentoring seven students who allJul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 passed their mid-term evaluation last week."Jul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nS9LX3LZ3J (news.opensuse.org)Jul 19 21:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsJul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755568285693992960Jul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE helps resellers extend software benefits to theJul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 cloud, giving customers more flexibility with SUSEJul 19 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 solutions https://t.co/CIxiIiC55w (sdtimes.com)Jul 19 21:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | SUSE helps resellers extend software benefits to the cloud, giving customers more flexibility with SUSE solutions - SD TimesJul 19 21:16
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cubexyzoh and the constant forced win10 updates on laptops? ha... it's just stupidity if you're on the batteryJul 19 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755571886457626624Jul 19 21:36
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    “Microsoft broke my father’s computer: it made him updateJul 19 21:36
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    to Windows 10” https://t.co/jLJ1jhQ394Jul 19 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (pavelmachek.livejournal.com) #vista10Jul 19 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Jul 19 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577154436345856Jul 19 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics https://t.co/f7Anjqv5jXJul 19 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 21:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux MachinesJul 19 21:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577155812065281Jul 19 21:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/CCOR9En61MJul 19 21:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 21:37
cubexyzwine can't run on non-x86 CPU right?Jul 19 21:42
cubexyzI would think it doesn'tJul 19 21:43
cubexyzalso wine translates windows calls to X11, so no wine on androidJul 19 21:44
cubexyzok, an important part of BSD history...Jul 19 21:49
cubexyzeverything we use now, OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD etc, is all derived from 4.4BSD which was released in 1994Jul 19 21:49
cubexyzthere are some interesting backports to study... 2.11BSD for example is a backport of 4.3BSD to PDP-11 archJul 19 21:51
cubexyzok, so I think 4.3BSD merits additional study...Jul 19 21:58
cubexyzer, 4.4BSD rather :)Jul 19 21:59
cubexyzexcuse the slow link...Jul 19 21:59
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/design-and-implementation-of-4.4bsd.pdfJul 19 22:00
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7629037Jul 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stanleytoothbrush@shrekislove.us reshared: GOP Leans In To Misogyny During Convention http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/07/19/3799867/rnc-war-on-women-hillary-clinton/ "[Clinton] comes off as a bitch"Jul 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thinkprogress.org | GOP Leans In To Misogyny During Convention | ThinkProgressJul 19 22:26
schestowitz"Disgusting. Love the irony of the highlighted quote, tho."Jul 19 22:26
schestowitzI guess some people don't know what bitch meansJul 19 22:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577157997297664Jul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/QCPN6biXQlJul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577157175291904Jul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 The Importance of Following Community-Oriented PrinciplesJul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 in GPL Enforcement Work https://t.co/ELgJXx5UGWJul 19 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Importance of Following Community-Oriented Principles in GPL Enforcement Work | Tux MachinesJul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577158936829952Jul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/xMsl10vZ6KJul 19 22:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJul 19 22:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755592609507213312Jul 19 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 7.0 now shows if an APK was installed from theJul 19 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Play Store or another source https://t.co/5mMSe42vZcJul 19 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jul 19 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android 7.0 now shows if an APK was installed from the Play Store or another sourceJul 19 22:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755592947354181632Jul 19 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 [Update: HSBC and BBVA] Android Pay expands to 19 moreJul 19 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 local banks and credit unions https://t.co/f0cokWttBTJul 19 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jul 19 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | [Update: HSBC and BBVA] Android Pay expands to 19 more local banks and credit unionsJul 19 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755594333181599744Jul 19 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia Android Nougat Smartphones With Snapdragon 820, 2KJul 19 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Displays Leaked https://t.co/nmNRzEPxF7Jul 19 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (gadgets.ndtv.com)Jul 19 22:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Nokia Android Nougat Smartphones With Snapdragon 820, 2K Displays Leaked | NDTV Gadgets360.comJul 19 22:49
*TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 19 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/755595287817777152Jul 19 22:56
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview QuestionsJul 19 22:56
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD (fossbytes.com)Jul 19 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755595839544913920Jul 19 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Croatia's Combis becomes RedHat partnerJul 19 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LzNmwCUI7G (www.telecompaper.com)Jul 19 22:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Croatia's Combis becomes RedHat partner - TelecompaperJul 19 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755596536021716992Jul 19 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Motorola has become the Polaroid of AndroidJul 19 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bZktUu0qwk (www.computerworld.com)Jul 19 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Motorola has become the Polaroid of Android | ComputerworldJul 19 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755596562965729281Jul 19 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/DKcqeNt7E8Jul 19 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 22:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesJul 19 22:57
*TweetTuxMachines @RemoteWorkingCo favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 19 23:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/os_magazine/status/755610516333223940Jul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview QuestionsJul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines @os_magazine    https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD (fossbytes.com)Jul 20 00:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @Lost_Shadows2 favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614731453419520Jul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/KqEyXsBjnCJul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 00:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614732803903488Jul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/LHcV6yXtz3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 00:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesJul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614733496049664Jul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/O7QTIlwNv8Jul 20 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 00:06
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cubedroidstrange interface on this irc clientJul 20 01:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614734213197824Jul 20 03:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4iUCzthzBjJul 20 03:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 03:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 20 03:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755670591299022848Jul 20 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.18.4Jul 20 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Released With XWayland / GLAMOR / ModesettingJul 20 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements https://t.co/SPW4ctpOdJ (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 04:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org Server 1.18.4 Released With XWayland / GLAMOR / Modesetting Improvements - PhoronixJul 20 04:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755670953934422016Jul 20 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 libinput is done  https://t.co/HwliUrbJadJul 20 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (who-t.blogspot.com)Jul 20 04:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-who-t.blogspot.com | Who-T: libinput is doneJul 20 04:34
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/755678938232487936Jul 20 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: 'World’s saddest polar bear' exhibited in Chinese shopping centre - https://t.co/M4qIacTtQz disgraceful animal abuse in #chinaJul 20 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | 'World’s saddest polar bear' exhibited in Chinese shopping centre | World news | The GuardianJul 20 06:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755705993636540416Jul 20 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody not a problem just in China https://t.co/KrGJUKMa4UJul 20 06:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755710213152530432Jul 20 06:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/6qHgHTcC4wJul 20 06:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 20 06:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora's answer to Snap Packages only begs more questionsJul 20 07:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 Four Alternatives to Raspbian and Ubuntu MATEJul 20 07:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Four Alternatives to Raspbian and Ubuntu MATE | FOSS ForceJul 20 07:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755722006142840833Jul 20 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 $5 Linux-equipped Omega2 IoT module launches onJul 20 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $5 Linux-equipped Omega2 IoT module launches on KickstarterJul 20 07:21
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TweetTuxMachines                 Tumbleweed updates bash, KDE, new Kernel coming soonJul 20 07:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755724143690153984Jul 20 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Looks like Stardew Valley is starting to gear up for theJul 20 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux release https://t.co/SptdvVGhN2Jul 20 07:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looks like Stardew Valley is starting to gear up for the Linux release | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 07:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755724339492823040Jul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Blossom Tales, a beautiful looking 2D Zelda-like actionJul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 RPG is heading to Linux https://t.co/aKePD9pypbJul 20 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blossom Tales, a beautiful looking 2D Zelda-like action RPG is heading to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725186591260672Jul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 TynanSylvester, creator of RimWorld comments on LinuxJul 20 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725542222102528Jul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 You can play controversial FPS 'Daikatana' on Linux now,Jul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 thanks to a fan patch endorsed by John RomeroJul 20 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 Learn an instrument with this open source music teacherJul 20 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725572509044736Jul 20 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Results of the EU-FOSSA survey https://t.co/EDUlBOPj6zJul 20 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725573272416257Jul 20 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/qghF5u2F84Jul 20 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725575159885824Jul 20 10:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source offers job security as businesses navigate anJul 20 10:23
TweetTuxMachines                 IT talent war https://t.co/k5EtUfFugIJul 20 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755748508716498944Jul 20 10:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/BFRMPFPV8OJul 20 10:23
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bill-gates-worth-by-year.txtJul 20 10:44
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razielle_tzucubexyz: that looks about rightJul 20 11:50
cubexyzhuge increase from 1990 to 1999Jul 20 11:54
cubexyzinteresting that he sold most of his stockJul 20 11:55
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 11:55
cubexyzeverything kind of turned out in a sub-optimal fashion after 1999, at least from my point of viewJul 20 11:57
cubexyzredhat stock spiked way up on dec. 10, 1999Jul 20 11:57
cubexyzwent all the way down to $3.12 per share on Sept, 10th 2001Jul 20 11:58
cubexyzit was $136 during the high, when microsoft was supposed to be broken upJul 20 11:59
cubexyz1999... a pivotal year in hindsight :)Jul 20 12:01
razielle_tzujust a bitJul 20 12:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755799834033000448Jul 20 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Video: Hardware hacking basics for Linux software devsJul 20 12:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755870157461827584Jul 20 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 vs. 760 vs. 960 vs. 1060 LinuxJul 20 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines                 Release of Fedora 24 updated LivesJul 20 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755870159902875648Jul 20 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Tough i.MX6-based Linux SBC targets wireless video, runsJul 20 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines                 EC to audit Apache HTTP Server and KeepassJul 20 17:21
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 20 17:52
razielle_tzuo/Jul 20 18:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJul 20 18:02
razielle_tzuhow are you?Jul 20 18:02
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks Ubuntu convergence is starting to look more exciting now going by two videos that seen recentlyJul 20 18:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, a bit hmm, wanting to organise an event, but the venue I want hasn't got back to me yet, yes an event for Linux Presentation DayJul 20 18:03
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich means not that much time to organise, but can be doable Jul 20 18:03
razielle_tzufairJul 20 18:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, might have to get some kind of funding or sponsership to cover an event cost though hmmJul 20 18:04
razielle_tzushould be doable thoughJul 20 18:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also Ubuntu convergence is looking more interesting now,  like I should buy the Microsoft display adapter soonJul 20 18:04
razielle_tzublehJul 20 18:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Ubuntu over the air update there's an offical release delayed to Wednesday next weekJul 20 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HDthat has the thingJul 20 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HDin itJul 20 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HDfor the tabletJul 20 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it looks good via  the video I sawJul 20 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat bluetooth mouse would you buyJul 20 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HDI got a cheap toner one from aamzon, but that didn't seem to workJul 20 18:05
razielle_tzui'm not fussed, it's not something that interests me and with the way canonical are going i'm going to be moving on from a ubuntu-based distro to maybe archJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDI am not so keen on the colours etc of the logitech ones I seen and other ones,  so hmmJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh your one ofthoseJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HD:DJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu uh, I am going Arch!Jul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's quite common thatJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDin the past few years or soJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople going from Ubuntu to Arch for some raeason, but why Arch ?Jul 20 18:06
razielle_tzui'm using mint atm but i prefer arch anyway, i just wanted to make sure my hardware was still stable under linux firstJul 20 18:06
SebthreeBQM10HDso you tested Mint h ehJul 20 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HDyes Arch is more doing things yourself I guessJul 20 18:07
razielle_tzuwell yeah, it has almost everything i'd need to test pre-installedJul 20 18:07
razielle_tzueverything works so i'll be moving later in the weekJul 20 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  am hoping to be able to go to my LUG meeting on Saturday, and be like, and with hte other guy who's interestedJul 20 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HDbe likeJul 20 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HDyes an eventJul 20 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HDand already got a  venue reallyJul 20 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HDor pretty muchJul 20 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HD,but looking like things may not go that way hmmJul 20 18:08
razielle_tzui need to set a spare SD card up for fridayJul 20 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, then I can probably organise a better event myself in like three months, than what we had before, make sure marketing is done right etcJul 20 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HDit seems they actsually think the remaster idea was a wast of time now as well at least one of them :dJul 20 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HDthey really wanted that in 2013/14Jul 20 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, my distro, and GNOME as well got out voted by them!Jul 20 18:09
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat I wantedJul 20 18:09
SebthreeBQM10HDit basically became their event, but I still helped out with getting freebies Jul 20 18:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and there were a load of issues on the marekting/promotion site, so didn't get many of the target audiance, but quite a few geeks yesJul 20 18:10
razielle_tzuthat can happenJul 20 18:10
razielle_tzuit takes a LOT of market research to get that kind of thing rightJul 20 18:11
SebthreeBQM10HDif I felt it was more my event still I would have probably mentioend promotion/maretting more,  if things had been done and what etcJul 20 18:11
SebthreeBQM10HDbut as I said it  mostly wasn't really my event in the end as well soJul 20 18:11
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 18:11
SebthreeBQM10HDnow former organiseers or one or two in parituclar will be reluctent to organise another eventJul 20 18:12
SebthreeBQM10HDespeically in much less time as well I thinkJul 20 18:12
SebthreeBQM10HDabout three months will be seen as being too little time!Jul 20 18:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but  one or two of them I think would be eaiser not to work with like did before really ass well, or not as muchJul 20 18:12
SebthreeBQM10HDif they want to help out on the day, or a bit here and there that would be okJul 20 18:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I hope can have a venue sorted soon, then really can pllan an event even more properly than already did, and even have something a bit bigger then last time I expect, get some people to come and help out with stands or something from esle where even I guess possibly :)Jul 20 18:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, my idea is to have Creative Commons stuff as wellJul 20 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HDget general public interested in that :)Jul 20 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah no venue, no event, hmmJul 20 18:15
SebthreeBQM10HDevents are fun thoughJul 20 18:15
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, have you organisd some events if so what?Jul 20 18:16
razielle_tzuthe usual ones i do are small demo classes for the pi (which i'm doing on friday) or linux as an alternative to windows with a variety of distros on show so people can find the one that suits them instead of trying to convince people to pick one in particularJul 20 18:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yes that's the kind of stuff I want for another eventJul 20 18:21
SebthreeBQM10HDwehre do you do your classes etc?Jul 20 18:21
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes you did say something before about something on FridaysJul 20 18:21
razielle_tzuyeah i run a computer club most friday morningsJul 20 18:21
SebthreeBQM10HDif I order things from Amazon and not with a prime membership tonightJul 20 18:21
SebthreeBQM10HDI guess may even have the parcel by Wednesday next week when the update is :DJul 20 18:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI could buy a Micrsooft dispaly adapter directly from Microsoft though, but I want to buy the white k480 bluetooh kebyoard as well, got the black on amazon, want to buy some kind of bluetooth mouse to that actsaully, works and a track pad thingJul 20 18:22
razielle_tzui guess that could be trueJul 20 18:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI got an expensive August really as wellJul 20 18:22
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I think I am meant to pre order something then some time in August by latest really, that I didn't have the money to crowd fund at the timeJul 20 18:23
SebthreeBQM10HDfor a bit less as wellJul 20 18:23
SebthreeBQM10HDplus there's something else I want to buy that again didn't have money to crowd fund, but can buy what will be theretial versibonJul 20 18:23
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I am not sure, but I have a feeling my Windows 8.1  install USB,  offical one that I actsually bought for the HP lap top,  may have gotton thrown away, because of someone here!Jul 20 18:24
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is annoying if so, since that cost like 30 poundsJul 20 18:24
SebthreeBQM10HDI did this sily mcafee thing to, because there was a way to get it a load cheaper for a year ortwo, I know Macafee is not goodJul 20 18:24
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I want to re install everything on my hp lap top, and I belive malware may be in the Windows install, since I had installed a program from well pretty much a arnaodm site really it turns out, and maybe not even the offical one etcJul 20 18:25
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I wanted to try and delete some stuff from ipad air in a more secure wayJul 20 18:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you know Windows, doesnt' take much to get infected by something etc!Jul 20 18:25
razielle_tzuso you use iexplorer for that if itunes won't helpJul 20 18:25
razielle_tzuand i know windows is easy to infectJul 20 18:26
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that was before, I still have an issue with the apple account to, trying to get that re set, oh if only I had done the password reset the first itme roundJul 20 18:26
SebthreeBQM10HDbut only had three hours and that expiredJul 20 18:26
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen they sent me the thingJul 20 18:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, in fact that ipaid air is likely to have malware on it!Jul 20 18:26
razielle_tzureally?Jul 20 18:27
SebthreeBQM10HDsince when I was using it, it hadn't been updated since issues,  etc,  and then had been on certain sites with it etcJul 20 18:27
SebthreeBQM10HDyes not updated for a long timeJul 20 18:27
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, when your browser comes up a bit oddly, or on certain sites Jul 20 18:27
SebthreeBQM10HDand things like thatJul 20 18:27
razielle_tzulolJul 20 18:27
SebthreeBQM10HDit basically says, that yep may have some sort of malware on thereJul 20 18:27
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, there was a issue with the account or something, can't quite remember now why the updates hadn't been installed!Jul 20 18:28
SebthreeBQM10HDnot used for months as wellJul 20 18:28
SebthreeBQM10HDand it had also broken so soeone fixed upJul 20 18:28
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, why the lol ?Jul 20 18:29
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I wantd to do  factory re set with it, but unless I can get into the apple accountJul 20 18:29
SebthreeBQM10HDI would lose access to that!Jul 20 18:29
razielle_tzubecause almost everyone i know touts the safety and security of ipads over android stuff but ALWAYS come to me with an infection to clean for themJul 20 18:29
SebthreeBQM10HDif can't re set the apple acocunt password and gain access to it  the usaul wayJul 20 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDit's just saved on the ipad the detailsJul 20 18:30
razielle_tzuno one ever brings android stuff to me for cleaning, just flashing new custom romsJul 20 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh right I seeJul 20 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand Andorid I don't think is particualry secureJul 20 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I mean more the app situationJul 20 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand I was saying to someone about that earlier on todayJul 20 18:30
razielle_tzuit's no more or less secure than iOSJul 20 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut basically every app or pretty much, wants access to your photos, and your vidoes etcJul 20 18:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand if you don't allow them access to pretty much everything, then well that app probably doesn' workJul 20 18:31
razielle_tzui'm selective with my apps... so it's just media players and e-book readers on my phone, they don't want any of that accessJul 20 18:31
SebthreeBQM10HDit wasnts access to the cam and micirphone etc toJul 20 18:31
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can be selective, but as I put most apps want access to pretty much everything, so much for security from apps thenJul 20 18:32
razielle_tzuoh apart from snapchat and instagram but i don't mind them having the access they doJul 20 18:32
SebthreeBQM10HDtht's something that bothered me about Andoid to begin with!Jul 20 18:32
razielle_tzuit's mostly because devs can't code without full hardware access any moreJul 20 18:32
SebthreeBQM10HDthe other thing that sucks hwen it comes to Android apps, and that I noticed pretty much straight away when first using Android, and being all used to Desktop Linuxx already as well so no adverts basicallyJul 20 18:32
SebthreeBQM10HDyep lots of adverts when it comes to Android apps in generalJul 20 18:32
razielle_tzulol, only for certain apps that usually have a full ad-free version too or it's from a new studio without the capital to do ad-free stuff yetJul 20 18:33
SebthreeBQM10HDalso Androdi uh, to many apps, it's frgamented I guess you could say ascaully, people say Linux is fragmented sinc the amount of distros, but no I think that's gnerally good it's choiceJul 20 18:33
SebthreeBQM10HDbut Anroid uhJul 20 18:33
SebthreeBQM10HDso many apps that its hard to find the good onesJul 20 18:33
razielle_tzuplus google inject ads to raise revenue for themselves and the app studioJul 20 18:34
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I guess what you said then, but there we go then, lots of appsJul 20 18:34
razielle_tzuthat's another reason for the increase in accessJul 20 18:34
SebthreeBQM10HDadvertsJul 20 18:34
SebthreeBQM10HDI meant to put thereJul 20 18:34
SebthreeBQM10HDadverts all over uhJul 20 18:34
razielle_tzui get no adverts in ANY of my apps that are bought in fullJul 20 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that's standrd if you buy an appJul 20 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HDno advertJul 20 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HD,but I was on about free apps yesJul 20 18:35
razielle_tzuhewll i don't get any in snapchat or instagram eitherJul 20 18:35
razielle_tzu*hellJul 20 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HDalso Ubuntu Touch doesn't have that issue of apps wanting access to like everything, as far as I knowJul 20 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HDsame for other Linux based ones like Salifish OSJul 20 18:35
razielle_tzucool reader, duolingo, imgur, plague inc., smart audiobooks... these are free apps i have with no advertsJul 20 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes my ipaid is probably infected knew that for monthsJul 20 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor well something on it that makes the browser go a bit funny etc at times as I was sayingJul 20 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, as for the account issues, no I can't just do a normal account password reset, and hae the email for that, and re set from there!Jul 20 18:37
razielle_tzuso set a new one up and free it that way?Jul 20 18:37
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really it's not so much re setting the password, it's more finding out what the password is!Jul 20 18:37
SebthreeBQM10HDI don't know what it is for the accountJul 20 18:37
SebthreeBQM10HDit's saved on the ipad thoughJul 20 18:37
SebthreeBQM10HDas the accountJul 20 18:37
SebthreeBQM10HDbut the account will have some data  or something in it that I would want I thinkJul 20 18:38
razielle_tzuthen for now you're screwedJul 20 18:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, if an account is saved on the ipad with the password, and can log into the accountJul 20 18:39
SebthreeBQM10HDI am on about the cloud accountJul 20 18:39
SebthreeBQM10HDthe icloud account the apple accountJul 20 18:39
SebthreeBQM10HDI can log into the ipad itselfJul 20 18:39
SebthreeBQM10HDbut if the icloud account is saved on there with it's password, there is surely some way to get the password off the ipad for it?Jul 20 18:39
razielle_tzuthen explain what you mean clearer, you are barely making sense tonight tbhJul 20 18:39
razielle_tzuthere might be but i can't think of a way right nowJul 20 18:40
SebthreeBQM10HDonce I contacted apple, and they were like ok you'll get a passwrod re set email in 24 hours, then you got three hours to re set the password, and that email came, but I didn't re set the passoword in time in the three hours, and every other time I tried that again for them to send issues didn't happenJul 20 18:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I want to know what my icloud/apple account password is,  or if not that, be able to re set it at leastJul 20 18:40
SebthreeBQM10HDI can log into the account that's being used on the ipad, where there is the icloud/apple account set up on itJul 20 18:41
SebthreeBQM10HDto sync or whatever it doesJul 20 18:41
razielle_tzuif you can log in to icloud on the ipad can't you change it on there?Jul 20 18:41
SebthreeBQM10HDnot from what I have seenJul 20 18:41
SebthreeBQM10HDalso I don't know the passwordJul 20 18:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really what I would want to do is  sort the account out, then factory re set as wellJul 20 18:42
SebthreeBQM10HDeven more so now, as someone who suspects malware as wellJul 20 18:42
razielle_tzui don't know iOS enough to be able to help you with thisJul 20 18:42
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks ok but she undersands nowJul 20 18:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah I gave in last year in Brussels at the air port actsually on way backJul 20 18:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, since ok Ipaid Air 2 was out, but I could buy the first ipaid air for like 150 or so pounds cheaper than the at that time UK priceJul 20 18:43
SebthreeBQM10HDapparnatly cheaper than some shiop in Belgium and such to, they were having a laugh it seems at that shop to that know how,  how many ipads they had sold that week etcJul 20 18:44
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, at first I was like hmm,  Ipaid not sure really,  since well partly since things MinceR had put actsaully about how bad Apple is etcJul 20 18:44
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I did give in after being there for longer, since really I wanted to play around with iOS a part ofme, I hadn't done that before soJul 20 18:44
SebthreeBQM10HDthen it was fun to be back also, and tell MinceR how I had bought a Apple device h eh h eh,  to troll him a bit with that h eh he h, well troll or tease whateverJul 20 18:45
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, MinceR basically hates or strongly dislikes AppleJul 20 18:45
razielle_tzui got a first gen ipad a few months ago to learn a few things and tbh i wish i hadn't. it's that old that nothing is supported any more and i don't like the feel of the os at allJul 20 18:45
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich version of ios ?Jul 20 18:46
SebthreeBQM10HDand do you really mean first gen, so which ipad?Jul 20 18:46
razielle_tzuyes i mean first gen, it's still on iOS 5.somethingJul 20 18:46
SebthreeBQM10HDthe ipad air was fine,  they kept it up to date as well, but I wasn't installing the updates since hmm,  account issues,  and wanting to use that version of ios, and wanting to eventauly factory re set, and I guess some other reason, I woudl normaly install updats for an os!Jul 20 18:46
razielle_tzui would tell you exactly but i can't remember where i put itJul 20 18:46
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I got ios 7 or something on that ipad airJul 20 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDyou don't like the os why?Jul 20 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDthe one I seen is quite basic, I mean it looks nice and fancy but that's just graphics realyJul 20 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDit's more like a basic Linux distro you could say by defaultJul 20 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDI hadn't installed any apps on that iapd as well in fact as wll because of some reason!Jul 20 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I think ios is more about the apps, installing apps  and then it becomes betterJul 20 18:48
razielle_tzui find it clunky and too heavy on the graphics instead of functionalityJul 20 18:48
SebthreeBQM10HDtoo heavey and clunky on graphics why?Jul 20 18:48
SebthreeBQM10HDI think people like apple since well it's blingeyJul 20 18:48
SebthreeBQM10HDand also it runs better than WindowsJul 20 18:48
SebthreeBQM10HDand remember these are peopel who haven't expereinced or knownigly experiencd Linux like usJul 20 18:49
SebthreeBQM10HDI don't mean Androdi, I mean Desktop Linux,  and even Linux based mobile osesJul 20 18:49
SebthreeBQM10HDAndroid has Linux in it, but is it's own thing and tighed to google as well in certain ways,  there's no Linux in the name as well etcJul 20 18:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus we know as software freedom people, that Apple well restricts peoples freedom etcJul 20 18:50
razielle_tzui've never been a fan of apple products, this just kinda sealed the deal for me not using them by choice ever again tbhJul 20 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDlock them in in certian ways as well or try toJul 20 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Ipad Airwas bought cheapJul 20 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I did use it for a few months and like for everythingJul 20 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDsince net book issuesJul 20 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDand so I aws aiting to buy another lap top, to have one bought, but then it was like what,  and so i settled on a hp lap top with a touch screen, but had to wait for that to be in stock as wellJul 20 18:51
razielle_tzui've let that and my android tablet run flat and just not bothered charging them againJul 20 18:51
razielle_tzumy laptops are mostly charged and in useJul 20 18:51
SebthreeBQM10HDwhilst I had the ipad airJul 20 18:51
SebthreeBQM10HDI was waiting for  Jolla tablet as wellJul 20 18:51
SebthreeBQM10HDyes from the former NOkia people,  who started Salifsih OS etcJul 20 18:51
SebthreeBQM10HDsince got  nice Jolla phone that should also srot out gain how I want it and do more with really, they had a crowd fudning campagain for a talet with an OS update as wel, the OS update came, but then issues  with an investero, and so most of us have been re funded insteadJul 20 18:52
SebthreeBQM10HDwell partly re funded, there will be  second half update re fund coming toJul 20 18:52
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I didn't have anything bluetooth with the ipaid,  but I am quite happy using mostly an Ubuntu tablet nad this lovely k480Jul 20 18:52
razielle_tzuyeah, you've said... constantly in factJul 20 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah if I am going to do Virualbox for exmple which I do at times, I'll need a computer for that a real computer!Jul 20 18:53
razielle_tzuhow will you cope not using just a tablet? :PJul 20 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes I haveJul 20 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how would you cope being a guy for a day :D ?Jul 20 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDyou probably are quite guy like in certain ways already though h e hJul 20 18:54
razielle_tzulolJul 20 18:54
razielle_tzucubexyz: should i finally tell him or just leave it?Jul 20 18:54
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, what that you were a guy  all  along pretending to be a girl :d ?Jul 20 18:55
razielle_tzunopeJul 20 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDanyway Jul 20 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDI do think thatJul 20 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu/Canonical are onto something with the whole convergence idaJul 20 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDideaJul 20 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDeven Microsoft to some extent with contium, but that's just the most expensive phone really, and that just basically puts it onto a bigger screenJul 20 18:56
SebthreeBQM10HDplus unlike with Ubuntu, you actusally need a sperate device so the phone can do continum as wellJul 20 18:56
razielle_tzumicrosoft want to keep each device separate but have similar/the same interface, ubuntu want you to choose which device to work on at any time withoout being restrictedJul 20 18:57
SebthreeBQM10HDand I think generally by home users/ consumers,  that yes for most of them, lap tops and desktops are being used much less, and that's mostly since smart phones, but also since ipad's and other tablets for people with themJul 20 18:58
razielle_tzupeople i know personally literally just use their tablet or phone while out and about. at home and they're straight back on a laptop or desktop to do thingsJul 20 18:58
SebthreeBQM10HDso  the idea of having  tablet as a screen, connected to a bluetooh keyboard and mouse etc, may catch up on more with the generl public as time goes on, yep really turning it into a lap top basically, espeicaly with things like ubuntu convergence and microsoft continumJul 20 18:58
SebthreeBQM10HDwell your probably not going  to type a load of documents on a smalll screen smart phone for example, unless it's connected to a bigger screenJul 20 18:59
razielle_tzuSebthreeBQM10HD: i have a REALLY important question to ask, please don't get offended when i ask it...Jul 20 18:59
SebthreeBQM10HDon a tablet though with a big enough screen it mightJul 20 18:59
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you want  me to type less :D ?Jul 20 19:00
razielle_tzuare you being paid to shill for Touch?Jul 20 19:00
SebthreeBQM10HDoh h ehJul 20 19:00
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, at one stage years ago,  I guess  I was a bit or so of an Ubuntu fan boy but that was also since I was much youngerJul 20 19:00
SebthreeBQM10HDthen certain things happended that I didn't like with desktop ubuntuJul 20 19:01
SebthreeBQM10HDso started moving more away to other disrosJul 20 19:01
SebthreeBQM10HDMageia etcJul 20 19:01
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I got quite invovled with Magia acgauly in certain ways, which took me to Brussels fosdemJul 20 19:01
SebthreeBQM10HDthe last five yearsJul 20 19:01
razielle_tzuthat doesn't answer the question i asked though :/Jul 20 19:01
SebthreeBQM10HDhowever Mageia is a bit boring now I findJul 20 19:01
SebthreeBQM10HDsince it really is just keeping what was the old Mandriva alive s  community distroJul 20 19:02
razielle_tzuwhich leads me to a second question...Jul 20 19:02
razielle_tzuare you really a politician?Jul 20 19:02
SebthreeBQM10HDreally all they mostly do is put in upstrema pckages, and their branding nad yahJul 20 19:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  went more away from Ubuntu, but I did go to the weekly jono bacon questio and answer sessionsJul 20 19:03
SebthreeBQM10HDthat happended beforeJul 20 19:03
SebthreeBQM10HDand oh he was great at showing ubuntu touch on the nexus etcJul 20 19:03
SebthreeBQM10HDit  always looked intereting  some how!  but when I wanted a phone in 2013,  it went out of stock so ended upwith a samsuing galaxy s3,  however of course hwen the first commericaly availalbe ubuntu phone went on sale, I bought one, and so on from thereJul 20 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDit's just interetingJul 20 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDit's differnetJul 20 19:04
razielle_tzuSebthreeBQM10HD: that's great and all but my questions could have been answered with yes or no, not a long spiel that i can't focus on because of my medsJul 20 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI like playing with differnet kinds of oses, altough it's been mostly LInux so far!Jul 20 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI do feel that can se where Ubuntu is giong much more now, well where Canonical is trying to take it, going by these devices thoughJul 20 19:05
SebthreeBQM10HDand well Firefox OS had so much potential really, but Mozilla messed up,  targeting only realy Africa to begin withJul 20 19:05
SebthreeBQM10HDshame since I did buy a cheap Firefox OS phone last year as well, and I seen some Firefox OS again this year at FOSDEM to,  and well it looks so nice etcJul 20 19:06
SebthreeBQM10HDmore so than Ubuntu touch in fact!Jul 20 19:06
SebthreeBQM10HDthe way it looks the graphicsJul 20 19:06
SebthreeBQM10HDso  Fiefox OS eh, that's pretty much had it, excpet for on panasonic  smart tvs.  jolla I don't think quite has the intention of targeting the main stremae like Canonical woud love to do in the future.  and Tizn is Samsungs back up plan and play thing,  for if Android doesnt' go how they want it enough etcJul 20 19:07
SebthreeBQM10HDso the main altenratie Linux player like it or not is Ubuntu Touch, alternative being to Android as wellJul 20 19:08
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razielle_tzutrueJul 20 19:08
razielle_tzuanyway, time to create an antergos usb installerJul 20 19:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, quite  a few of us prefer more well Desktop Linux like mobile devices as well now as in smart phones and tablets,  and in diffenrt ways Ubuntu Touch and Salifish OS do that, and to some extent Firefox OS as wellJul 20 19:09
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razielle_tzuyeah i knowJul 20 19:11
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Tizen eh, that's not really going to go anywhere proper it seems, unless Samsung decide for it toJul 20 19:12
razielle_tzuthere are a few devs outside of samsung testing it afaikJul 20 19:14
razielle_tzuso it might go somewhere with the hackersJul 20 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HDwith hackersJul 20 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HDsureJul 20 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HD,butJul 20 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HDnot more average kind of peopleJul 20 19:15
SebthreeBQM10HDFIrefox won't go with more average pople now, so that's out in that context, Jolla I don't think will either because Salifish OS in certain ways seem to be more aimed at tedchis than aything else really from waht I have seen as well, and jolla has a load of company issues now as well, and is smallJul 20 19:15
SebthreeBQM10HDso that's out then for possibly getting out thee more with techi'sJul 20 19:16
SebthreeBQM10HDso it basically just leves Canonical with Ubuntu,  with the proper intention and most interst of doing tht in general, and not just for commerical rasons Samsung uhJul 20 19:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus  yes they have done things that have been a bit hmm over the years at times, I agree with that, but well it's interesting reallyJul 20 19:17
razielle_tzui know maybe three users i'd consider average though, so it's no big deal if tizen is only popular with hackers/customisersJul 20 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu flor phone and tablets etcJul 20 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HDthree years you would consider average what you mean?Jul 20 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Tizen is for geeks who know about it and want it, and also Samsungs back up plan if relying on Android turns out to not be in their interest any moreJul 20 19:18
SebthreeBQM10HDenoughJul 20 19:18
SebthreeBQM10HDso Tizen in that sense eh, but I  am interested in importing an r3 from india, to try the os etcJul 20 19:18
razielle_tzuso do it?Jul 20 19:18
SebthreeBQM10HDI will, but got other tech to buy firstJul 20 19:18
SebthreeBQM10HDso have to waitJul 20 19:19
SebthreeBQM10HDtech devices most of them aren't exactly cheap soJul 20 19:19
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes can buy tizen phones on amzon or e bayJul 20 19:20
*SebthreeBQM10HD would possibly be interested to an extent if razielle_tzu made her own OS, but why? try even if just in a vm, but try why simple since it would be another os to tryJul 20 19:21
razielle_tzui'm tempted but i need to learn to code a bit more firstJul 20 19:21
*SebthreeBQM10HD woudn't be that interesetd if it was just some linux based or linuxey type one, I mean more an OS made from scratch etc :dJul 20 19:21
razielle_tzuplus it would only be another linux distroJul 20 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HDther was some guy that did oneJul 20 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HDI read about it like a year agoJul 20 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HDnamed after abird or something, I can't remember what it was calledJul 20 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah he had worked on here and there for quite a few yearsJul 20 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HDand I mean an OS from scratch, his own kernel the lotJul 20 19:22
razielle_tzutrueJul 20 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes I am not  programmer , but I am interested in osesJul 20 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HDhow i see it isJul 20 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HDwell the os  makes the expereinceJul 20 19:23
razielle_tzui'm not a programmer either, not any more at leastJul 20 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HDthe hardware you actully use does to an extent as well sure, but the OS is the like experience you get and useJul 20 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HDand then whatever programs with that OS as wellJul 20 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HDso when my Dad was like to me about 10 years or so ago,  eh to oses basically, like they didn't matter much differnet ones etcJul 20 19:24
SebthreeBQM10HDyes that annoyed me!Jul 20 19:24
SebthreeBQM10HDhe would just use Windows, and be like eh to anything else, don't want ot use that etcJul 20 19:24
razielle_tzui preferred amigas to the early pcs we had but then commodore went underJul 20 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I didn't get to play with stuf like that reallyJul 20 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwell ther was some old pc that was gven to us in the 90s for freeJul 20 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwith like a green screen etc, could do some stuff, unofrutntly it got thorwn out!Jul 20 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDI put pc, but it wasn't a pcJul 20 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDit was some other kind of computer, and I don't know whatJul 20 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDso putting pc was a mistake I did there reallyJul 20 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also shame our old Atari broke, because we had some  interesting games for that as well, such as  Donky Kong and ChooperJul 20 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDI think I can get Donky Kong for  something now, that reminds me, but I coudn't find  chooper that's ashameJul 20 19:27
*SebthreeBQM10HD loved chooperJul 20 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm I guess there's an actsul atari emulater out there some wher, and then games for thatJul 20 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDsame for Amiga etcJul 20 19:28
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razielle_tzui knowJul 20 19:29
razielle_tzui use the amiga one from time to timeJul 20 19:29
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm an amiga one for what?Jul 20 19:29
razielle_tzui use the amiga emulator for games and sometimes octamedJul 20 19:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it's amazing relly the amount of old software there is out ther enowJul 20 19:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, from games, to other thingsJul 20 19:30
SebthreeBQM10HDsoftware going back to like the 80's even and at times before that evenJul 20 19:30
razielle_tzutake a look through archive.org sometimes ;)Jul 20 19:30
SebthreeBQM10HDyes last time I was on there a lotJul 20 19:31
SebthreeBQM10HDI was doing WIndows 3.1Jul 20 19:31
SebthreeBQM10HDthey got like Windows 3.1 emulater Jul 20 19:31
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can play the old solitaire, and mess around with free cell as well and paint and other  thingsJul 20 19:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand all in the browser yepJul 20 19:31
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 19:31
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is awesome :)Jul 20 19:31
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, do you prefer modren gaming or more well older gaming retro ?Jul 20 19:32
SebthreeBQM10HDand why ?Jul 20 19:32
razielle_tzudepends on my mood and who i'm playing withJul 20 19:33
SebthreeBQM10HD razielle_tzu I can easilly play lots of old games on a interesting gaming device nowJul 20 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDso awesome :)Jul 20 19:34
razielle_tzu:)Jul 20 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDit's been fun the last few weekshere and there thatJul 20 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, get to play games that would have never played othewise etcJul 20 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDor try them out a bit etcJul 20 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, which reminds me there was some kind of barbie racer I wanted to download and try out,  yes Barbie seriously Jul 20 19:35
razielle_tzulol, i preferred micromachines on the A500+Jul 20 19:35
razielle_tzu:PJul 20 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat's micromachines ?Jul 20 19:35
razielle_tzuit's an rc racing gameJul 20 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I was doing old rug rats games last night, but yeah most dind't seem good or now, we had a good one on the ps 1 beforeJul 20 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDthere was one that did seem good thoughJul 20 19:36
razielle_tzuoh?Jul 20 19:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yep lots of old games that can try out as I was saying,  Monster Trucks is good :)Jul 20 19:38
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 19:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, knock knockJul 20 19:39
SebthreeBQM10HDwho's there?Jul 20 19:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Jul 20 19:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  whoJul 20 19:40
SebthreeBQM10HDyou!Jul 20 19:40
razielle_tzuthat was bad :PJul 20 19:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  yep :dJul 20 19:40
SebthreeBQM10HDand was meant to be a bit random to :DJul 20 19:40
*SebthreeBQM10HD could never actsaully do rel knock knock jokes it seems, oh wellJul 20 19:41
razielle_tzuoh wellJul 20 19:41
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks razielle_tzu should entertain him, he's starting to get bored it seems hmmJul 20 19:41
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 20 19:41
razielle_tzui don't do entertaining though :/Jul 20 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, dance around for me :d Jul 20 19:42
razielle_tzunoJul 20 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 20 19:42
*SebthreeBQM10HD will probably actsually watch tv tonight, still has the last seris of hereos to watch a bit more of for example, and that was on tv months agoJul 20 19:43
*razielle_tzu is waiting for antergos to finish installingJul 20 19:43
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a horror movie that started watdching again the other week, that had seen most of before, an irish, so yeah at some stage i'll finish that off toJul 20 19:44
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks he has hear of antergos before yeah probably and probably from razielle_tzu but has a mind that has gone blank as to what that is, some sort of amiga thing or something maybeJul 20 19:44
SebthreeBQM10HDor some thing else to with old computersJul 20 19:45
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks using /me can be fun :dJul 20 19:45
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks using /me can be fun, but when used correctly though as an action thingJul 20 19:45
razielle_tzuantergos is an arch based distroJul 20 19:45
SebthreeBQM10HDseems my irc client doesn't like two of those in a rowJul 20 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HDoh an arch based distro yeah I think I read about that before some hwere a few timesJul 20 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yes that explains itJul 20 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but why do you prefer arch?Jul 20 19:46
*SebthreeBQM10HD wonders what the secret is that cubexyz and razielle_tzu the something that I was nearly told :DJul 20 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HDhasJul 20 19:47
SebthreeBQM10HDhas togetherJul 20 19:47
razielle_tzuit's a rolling distro, which is nice, and you have more control over everything right from the start instead of having to get rid of things you don't like after installing the base systemJul 20 19:47
SebthreeBQM10HDa rolling distro ok :)Jul 20 19:47
razielle_tzueveryone who pays attention knows itJul 20 19:47
SebthreeBQM10HDyour secrete thing that isn't a secret then ?Jul 20 19:47
SebthreeBQM10HDuh?Jul 20 19:48
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razielle_tzupretty muchJul 20 19:48
razielle_tzuyou seem to be the only person unaware of itJul 20 19:48
SebthreeBQM10HDuh I probaby to do then or would, but I don't remember if I even knowJul 20 19:48
*SebthreeBQM10HD isn't always in here as wellJul 20 19:48
*SebthreeBQM10HD isn't going to read through a load of old logs for this channel as well :DJul 20 19:49
razielle_tzu:PJul 20 19:49
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes rolling distors can be nicer ike PC Linux OS for example as wellJul 20 19:49
SebthreeBQM10HDhaving to update say every well Jul 20 19:49
SebthreeBQM10HD18 months? or 9 with Ubuntu? well  when meant to do  a big update, can be rather uhJul 20 19:50
SebthreeBQM10HDthe same old, ssam old boring packagin installing in a later version etc in a big slow updateJul 20 19:50
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, so what i am apparnatly meant to know it seems, but don't know ?Jul 20 19:51
razielle_tzui might explain properly laterJul 20 19:51
SebthreeBQM10HDhmmJul 20 19:51
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it's ok if you use to be a guy etc, h eh, no that's a joke, and seriosuly whatever it is, well it's fine I expect, and your awesome :)Jul 20 19:52
razielle_tzuscrew it... i DID used to be a guy, that changed two years ago when i came out as transJul 20 19:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really?Jul 20 19:53
SebthreeBQM10HDoh hence that channel as well the ohJul 20 19:53
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HDprobably explains the tech interests to realyJul 20 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HDto the extent you haveJul 20 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HDsinceJul 20 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HDnot that many born as, are into it as much etc, yes there are some that are thoughJul 20 19:55
razielle_tzunot really, like i said before i know plenty of girls interested in techJul 20 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HDI came across someone yearsa go in another channel actaullyJul 20 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HDwhoJul 20 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HDapparnatly was a tech girl etc, but then wel wanted to bbecome a girl more etcJul 20 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HDactually mett this person  few years later at an event as well, was meant tobe the pevious year, but we coudn't find each other then etcJul 20 19:56
SebthreeBQM10HDplus they dated someone from the event etc, broken up sinceJul 20 19:57
SebthreeBQM10HDa guy fromJul 20 19:57
SebthreeBQM10HDand whatever it's IRC, doesn't really matter that much what gender someone is etc, is on here :)Jul 20 19:57
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople are people on IRC :)Jul 20 19:58
razielle_tzui know it doesn't but somethings can be really gratingJul 20 19:58
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat do you mean?Jul 20 19:58
razielle_tzucomments about "being a guy really", asking what i'd do if i had a cock for a day, things like thatJul 20 19:59
razielle_tzuthey can make me feel like crapJul 20 19:59
razielle_tzui normally play them off but i can't today because things are kinda crappy on that frontJul 20 20:00
SebthreeBQM10HDgenerally in this channel people have much more freedom of speech than in most other channels on this network etc let's say, now that isn't always a good thing possibly but yeahJul 20 20:01
razielle_tzua freedom of speech doesn't mean a freedom from consequenceJul 20 20:01
razielle_tzuso whiole people are free to say whatever, so are people that disagree :)Jul 20 20:02
razielle_tzu*whileJul 20 20:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, just to be clear,  I like you :),  some of my a bit more jokey comments etc might have come across the wrong way a bit at times thoughJul 20 20:03
razielle_tzuit happens sometimes and i feel at fault for not clearing things up soonerJul 20 20:03
razielle_tzuit was just nice to be accepted as a girl in tech without dealing with trans bullshit tooJul 20 20:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI used to be more careful about anything I put in this channel to, but seem to be more relaxed nowJul 20 20:05
razielle_tzuthere's only one channel i'm in that i sometimes have to deal with transphobia in and that's because i'm not usually around when the transphobes areJul 20 20:06
SebthreeBQM10HDbut most people in genearl who come to this channel don't really care much about what they put in itJul 20 20:06
razielle_tzui knowJul 20 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HDand  I see that a lot from you actusallyJul 20 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, IRC is mostly for fun or out of boredom I guess really,  unless it's for like support for something, or a project meeting or something like thatJul 20 20:08
SebthreeBQM10HDcertain channels more so than othersJul 20 20:08
SebthreeBQM10HDcertian channels are just uhJul 20 20:08
razielle_tzuinfo, help with things and general chat for me :)Jul 20 20:08
SebthreeBQM10HDsince waht people genrally chat  about etcJul 20 20:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, like the Aspergers channels on here for example uhJul 20 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and yes to your point earlier, it's easier to be who we want to be on iRC for example :)Jul 20 20:10
razielle_tzuit was easier for me to do that offline before admitting it to some people on hereJul 20 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can be pretty much whoever you want to be in fact onlineJul 20 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, offline oh ?Jul 20 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HDand people on here oh ?Jul 20 20:11
razielle_tzuyeah, i came out to my mother and fiancée before i came out to my friends on hereJul 20 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HDfinancee a woman ?Jul 20 20:11
razielle_tzuyupJul 20 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HDthing is now your doing it in public basically since this channel will get logged, but I guess that's been done before anyway soJul 20 20:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, on  occasion it can be useful to have this channel logged, but I think mostly there's not much point realyJul 20 20:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, anyway I think we have become freinds on here :) definetly Jul 20 20:14
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HDso girl/guy whateverJul 20 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HDit's more common now as well I thik generally or starting to be, people like thatJul 20 20:15
SebthreeBQM10HDor well in this kiknd of country anyway it seemsJul 20 20:15
razielle_tzuit's not that it's more common, it's that more people are coming out and willing to transitionJul 20 20:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, p m ?Jul 20 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755921439530835968Jul 20 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 This $50 Android smartphone may be the best deal in techJul 20 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5yzGOzZf9o (www.marketwatch.com)Jul 20 20:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This $50 Android smartphone may be the best deal in tech - MarketWatchJul 20 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 vs. 760 vs. 960 vs. 1060 LinuxJul 20 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance https://t.co/JkcCIfWVbz (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Release of Fedora 24 updated LivesJul 20 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c531e1YqjS (jbwillia.wordpress.com)Jul 20 20:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbwillia.wordpress.com | Release of Fedora 24 updated Lives | Jbwillia's WeblogJul 20 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Tough i.MX6-based Linux SBC targets wireless video, runsJul 20 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 on 3W https://t.co/lGKOc4RPq8 (hackerboards.com)Jul 20 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord for Linux release date announced, arrivingJul 20 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 tomorrow the 21st of July https://t.co/Hyt7q19mhvJul 20 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755933532996808704Jul 20 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 NZ govt agencies now have open source software at theirJul 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 side https://t.co/Rph9oAAvOn (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 21:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NZ govt agencies now have open source software at their side | Tux MachinesJul 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755933627448516608Jul 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 The World Envies India – New SailfishOS Phone Jul 20 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XjmxQ1kKGE (mschlander.wordpress.com)Jul 20 21:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mschlander.wordpress.com | The World Envies India – New SailfishOS Phone | The Blog is HotJul 20 21:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/755710983021142016Jul 20 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch yeah I complained this was really expensive for poor Africans to join in.Jul 20 21:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/755723193558663169Jul 20 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @DSMeu @Ansip_EU with spectrum monopolies, there is no competition.Jul 20 21:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bunniestudios/status/755746841925414913Jul 20 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bunniestudios: Why I'm modding the iPhone 6 with @snowden. Thursday 9am Boston time via livestream: https://t.co/Y9HtImXy4d #forbiddenMLJul 20 21:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/755938803114610688Jul 20 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz I think it's Twitter. How they 'filter' your timeline depending on your search/views etc. I'll have to follow 'manually 😬✔️🍷🍷🍷🖖Jul 20 21:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TDIAct/status/755940728866430977Jul 20 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TDIAct: Meanwhile in #Turkey #Truth shall set you... Behind bars or executed after the expedited trials to come! https://t.co/nGXA8uF2bCJul 20 21:42
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TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord Is Being Released For Linux TodayJul 20 21:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overlord Is Being Released For Linux Tomorrow - PhoronixJul 20 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME's Mutter Sees Big Rework, Striving For Multi-DPIJul 20 21:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Rendering https://t.co/LNJyKggRCM (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 21:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755941368556650496Jul 20 21:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing the Latest VLC Player on Ubuntu Is A SnapJul 20 21:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Testing the Latest VLC Player on Ubuntu Is a Snap - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 20 21:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 MacBuntu 16.04 Transformation Pack for Ubuntu 16.04Jul 20 21:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Xenial Xerus  https://t.co/TNcTMNuj5n (www.noobslab.com)Jul 20 21:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Convergence VideoJul 20 22:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 Roon Labs' audiophile music server now streams tunes fromJul 20 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-powered NAS boxes https://t.co/uNGLW3J9kvJul 20 22:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/UTMTb8uRN8Jul 20 22:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/ezEWo07ZhfJul 20 22:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Roon Labs' audiophile music server now streams tunes fromJul 20 22:35
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cubexyzok, another update...Jul 20 22:40
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtJul 20 22:41
cubexyzdamn... forgot the last updateJul 20 22:42
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtJul 20 22:42
cubexyzblekko is defunct nowJul 20 22:43
cubexyzI think it's important to actively resist M$ rather than just say "oh well, they're here to stay" with a laissez-faire attitudeJul 20 22:49
cubexyzM$ is very aggressive, and they need to be resisted aggressivelyJul 20 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/b5rGgfbkGsJul 21 00:29
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cubexyzhaha torrent folks are funny...Jul 21 01:29
cubexyzF.AM.OUS.MO.V.IE..200.9Jul 21 01:29
cubexyzhey, I get it torrent dudesJul 21 01:30
cubexyzn.udge.nu.d.ge.w.in.k.win.kJul 21 01:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google is making it harder to root Android 7.0 NougatJul 21 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mmrHZgixdw (betanews.com)Jul 21 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756021645404434432Jul 21 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat redraws Ansible Tower so even enterprise managersJul 21 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 can get it https://t.co/cm0yQ7BPxSJul 21 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk) https://t.co/pitG3ULYA5Jul 21 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756023713775095808Jul 21 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Auto is coming to three niche car manufacturers:Jul 21 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Lada, Koenigsegg, and Borgward https://t.co/tBINWHqIraJul 21 03:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756023859258728448Jul 21 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 "Alan Cox, who was awarded an honorary degree by SwanseaJul 21 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 University for his work with Linux."Jul 21 03:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/W6rOPzTuuH (lwn.net)Jul 21 03:12
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TweetTuxMachines                 "Testers will login to GNOME using a fresh "test" login,Jul 21 03:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 21/7/2016: An Honorary Degree for Alan Cox, LooksJul 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Back at DebConf16 https://t.co/AEPa7KBTZ3Jul 21 03:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 How to install Arch Linux on Dell XPS 13 (2016) in 7Jul 21 03:58
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TweetTuxMachines                 7 Differences Between Linux and Windows: UserJul 21 04:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756037118422577152Jul 21 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Alpha3 releasedJul 21 04:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756039377885753344Jul 21 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce – BETA ReleaseJul 21 04:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756040258983198720Jul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 BrainBread 2, an utterly ridiculous Source engine poweredJul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 FPS is now free on Steam with Linux supportJul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nwVIRCdYDi (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 04:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756040416877830144Jul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Rust has now sold over 30 thousand copies on LinuxJul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DMdVvZaXO6 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 04:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756041555337744384Jul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's Mesa Driver Appears Ready For OpenGL 4.5Jul 21 04:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xXg7Oh8G0M (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 04:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756042047937798144Jul 21 04:30
TweetTuxMachines                 SJVN Talks FOSS, Linux, Microsoft & More…Jul 21 04:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZF87c7C5wd (fossforce.com)Jul 21 04:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756042314557030400Jul 21 04:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Mutter 3.21.4 https://t.co/GtQhltrZIh (mail.gnome.org)Jul 21 04:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 The Linux Setup - Jerry Bezencon, Linux LiteJul 21 08:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cYeZckHd2K (www.mylinuxrig.com)Jul 21 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 - And we represent!  https://t.co/2Zc1Jf18vKJul 21 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce – BETA ReleaseJul 21 08:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yyDuj52td2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111059040161793Jul 21 08:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/Z2iLMZ4wsXJul 21 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111060130598912Jul 21 08:58
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenSUSE 42.2 Alpha 3 https://t.co/1q9WddedC1Jul 21 08:58
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cubexyzfoss force offline... bad gateway :-.Jul 21 11:03
razielle_tzuo.OJul 21 11:11
cubexyznow it's workingJul 21 11:11
razielle_tzufair, i didn't notice any issuesJul 21 11:12
razielle_tzuthen again i'm downloading images for the pi i have right now for tomorrow's potential showcase :DJul 21 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111061166665728Jul 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Privacy Violations, Fedora: Season's PickJul 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pfFWiokgwY (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Privacy Violations, Fedora: Season's Pick | Tux MachinesJul 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111062252957696Jul 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 - And we represent! https://t.co/zrXSnJ1hAaJul 21 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756135229396430848Jul 21 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/BEvOrTvab1Jul 21 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 11:14
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cubexyzI've just noticed they cropped out quite a bit of X11R6 from slackwareJul 21 11:19
cubexyzor I guess it would be X11R7 nowJul 21 11:20
razielle_tzui don't keep up with slackware, maybe should change that after i had issues with antergos last nightJul 21 11:21
cubexyzit could be they shunted parts of X11 into a different package I haven't installedJul 21 11:22
razielle_tzui couldn't get the prop drivers for my graphics card to compile due to unmet dependencies, which in turn wouldn't compile :/Jul 21 11:22
razielle_tzuwhich meant i couldnt get steam and a few other gfx heavy things runningJul 21 11:23
cubexyzthat must be a new thing... I don't seem to remember that at allJul 21 11:27
razielle_tzuyeah, it seems to be. everything works fine on mint though so for now i'm back on thatJul 21 11:30
cubexyzI know the FC1 stuff fairly well :)Jul 21 11:33
cubexyzand I probably know Unix v5, v6, and v7 better than I know FC1Jul 21 11:34
razielle_tzu:)Jul 21 11:34
razielle_tzuaside from a keyboard and mouse i think i'm ready to show off a pi tomorrow....Jul 21 11:35
razielle_tzuthree different SD cards with osmc, NOOBS and risc on them... NOOBS i'll probably use for scratch or raspbianJul 21 11:38
cubexyzI think you get mathematica with that Jul 21 11:40
cubexyzor can get it Jul 21 11:41
cubexyzit might be part of NOOBSJul 21 11:41
razielle_tzui'm not sure what's included with noobs, just that it's nearly 2GB as it is, i'll check tomorrow before the club startsJul 21 11:41
razielle_tzushame i couldn't get osmc (or an earlier version) working properly on that terminalJul 21 11:42
cubexyzmathematica itself isn't really my cup of tea Jul 21 11:42
cubexyzproprietaryJul 21 11:43
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 11:43
razielle_tzui've already thrown most of what i need into a bag for tomorrow, it's just my keyboard and trackball left to pack but i'm using them :PJul 21 11:43
cubexyzyeah, I'm not really up on raspberry pi stuff as yetJul 21 11:48
razielle_tzui want the newer models at some pointJul 21 11:48
razielle_tzui have the B+ right nowJul 21 11:48
razielle_tzui want the zero and B2 >.<Jul 21 11:49
cubexyzwow, there's Plan 9 for raspberry piJul 21 11:49
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 11:49
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razielle_tzuthere's also freebsd for the model B tooJul 21 11:50
razielle_tzuoh and the pi 2Jul 21 11:50
cubexyztoo many blobs, probably why there's no openbsd for itJul 21 11:52
cubexyznot that my streamer is any less blobbyJul 21 11:52
razielle_tzuhehJul 21 11:52
razielle_tzuanyway, time for a haircut and possibly dyeJul 21 11:54
razielle_tzubbsJul 21 11:54
cubexyzblue is a nice colour :)Jul 21 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 ONOS Project and ONF Deliver First White Box and OpenJul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Leaf-Spine Fabric for Data CentersJul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sunBecoRbS (www.marketwired.com)Jul 21 12:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | ONOS Project and ONF Deliver First White Box and Open Source Leaf-Spine Fabric for Data CentersJul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756155218459373569Jul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 $5 Omega2 Linux Mini PC Designed For The Internet OfJul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Things And More (video)  https://t.co/G4Nuc7iwj1Jul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.geeky-gadgets.com) https://t.co/pQagpqRIJRJul 21 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (thetechnews.com)Jul 21 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | $5 Omega2 Linux Mini PC Designed For The Internet Of Things And More (video) - Geeky GadgetsJul 21 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Graduates: How to Get Your Dream Open Source JobJul 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/emH6TqJDUB (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graduates: How to Get Your Dream Open Source Job | Tux MachinesJul 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756159352793276417Jul 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS in Networking https://t.co/dHA07124qsJul 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 12:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756160604352552961Jul 21 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Evolution of Linux Containers and FutureJul 21 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/p6WSR7emPr (dzone.com)Jul 21 12:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756162489516040193Jul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Shadows of Kurgansk, a good looking single-player actionJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 and survival game now on Linux & SteamOSJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/gSvx1WdB6a (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shadows of Kurgansk, a good looking single-player action and survival game now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756162702960189441Jul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Buds vs Bad Guys, the action platformer from a dadJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 and son team has been fully funded and coming to LinuxJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sAGtmFPbPF (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Buds vs Bad Guys, the action platformer from a dad and son team has been fully funded and coming to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756163338564808704Jul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Quadrant, an interesting survival horror is now on LinuxJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 & SteamOS https://t.co/jA4Idp9Rw2 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quadrant, an interesting survival horror is now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756163509881372672Jul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Dungeon Rushers, a 2D tactical RPG and dungeon crawlerJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 now on Linux https://t.co/RouC0MX3wrJul 21 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dungeon Rushers, a 2D tactical RPG and dungeon crawler now on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 12:35
razielle_tzucubexyz: blue is a great colour, on my partner :PJul 21 12:45
razielle_tzui prefer reds and blacksJul 21 12:45
cubexyzok :)Jul 21 12:45
razielle_tzuxDJul 21 12:46
razielle_tzuso later it's going a deep redJul 21 12:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 Korora 24 Screenshot TourJul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/N3qKLU8fRv (www.linuxscreenshots.org)Jul 21 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Korora 24 Screenshot TourJul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172360873603072Jul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 This New Android Is Like the Swiss Army Knife of PhonesJul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YrkWOES2mo (time.com)Jul 21 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Moto Z Review: The Android Phone That TransformsJul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172613987229696Jul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 In Search of a Linux iTunes ReplacementJul 21 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pz5BRFd2eQ (fossforce.com)Jul 21 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | In Search of a Linux iTunes Replacement | FOSS ForceJul 21 13:03
cubexyzxbc is an interesting little program... an example of minimalist programming I'd dare sayJul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172754185924609Jul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 The Ubuntu-powered BQ Aquaris M10 tablet: Almost amazingJul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/C0wCchzoiL (www.networkworld.com)Jul 21 13:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | The Ubuntu-powered BQ Aquaris M10 tablet: Almost amazing | Network WorldJul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173079555010560Jul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Why and How to Use Ring Instead of Skype on LinuxJul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RegMBqXKi5 (www.linux.com)Jul 21 13:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why and How to Use Ring Instead of Skype on Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJul 21 13:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173189718302720Jul 21 13:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS released https://t.co/M1VqT19wVFJul 21 13:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.ubuntu.com)Jul 21 13:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS releasedJul 21 13:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173320031117312Jul 21 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of AllJul 21 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Phones https://t.co/SEDL1ZSNhhJul 21 13:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173491250966529Jul 21 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE LLC’s SUSE Manager https://t.co/n5tBPq289pJul 21 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Jul 21 13:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | SUSE LLC's SUSE Manager | Linux JournalJul 21 13:09
razielle_tzui don't think i've used xbcJul 21 13:09
cubexyzmost likely notJul 21 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173842180079616Jul 21 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux,Jul 21 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 some thoughts and a port report https://t.co/JR4pFXFzOPJul 21 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux, some thoughts and a port report | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 13:10
cubexyzxbc is not part of any distro I don't thinkJul 21 13:13
razielle_tzunot that i know ofJul 21 13:14
cubexyzit's Xt/Motif stuffJul 21 13:15
razielle_tzuah yeah, then no i've not used itJul 21 13:16
cubexyzan example of programmng a GUI for bc :)Jul 21 13:16
cubexyzit's from the book "The X Window System: Programming and Applications with Xt"Jul 21 13:16
razielle_tzucoolJul 21 13:17
razielle_tzuoh yeah, so seb is finally caught up on most of the things the channel as a whole knows about me >.<Jul 21 13:17
cubexyzthere's also an AI bot processing the logs :)Jul 21 13:18
razielle_tzuthat doesn't bother meJul 21 13:18
razielle_tzui keep my own logs anyway unless the founder of a channel asks us not toJul 21 13:19
cubexyzI think it's safe to say this is a pro-logging channel :)Jul 21 13:19
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 13:19
cubexyzI asked some of the original X developers about the first paint programJul 21 13:20
cubexyzbut no one could remember writing oneJul 21 13:20
razielle_tzulolJul 21 13:21
razielle_tzubut yeah, somehow he missed the memo that i'm a trans lesbian about to start a BSc in computingJul 21 13:21
cubexyzseb still needs to learn a bit about Unix tooJul 21 13:21
razielle_tzuyeah he doesJul 21 13:21
razielle_tzui'm getting sick of hearing him talk about his tablet and keyboard or ubuntu touchJul 21 13:23
cubexyzhahaJul 21 13:23
razielle_tzuit's almost all he talks about in public if he's not asking questions, in private he's better but still has one track most of the timeJul 21 13:24
razielle_tzui asked him if he's paid as a shill for them and got a convoluted response that didn't answer the questionJul 21 13:25
razielle_tzuso i asked if he's a politician and got the same kind of answerJul 21 13:25
cubexyzyeah I just you just have to try to be extra patient with himJul 21 13:28
razielle_tzui was having trouble focusing on what he was saying due to my meds though and wanted a straight answerJul 21 13:29
*TweetTuxMachines @Glatorcom favourited 'Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux,...'Jul 21 13:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756177825346883586Jul 21 13:34
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA To Meet With Wayland, Linux Kernel Developers ToJul 21 13:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Discuss GBM vs. Streams https://t.co/7YtVbS0cxEJul 21 13:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 13:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA To Meet With Wayland, Linux Kernel Developers To Discuss GBM vs. Streams - PhoronixJul 21 13:34
cubexyzwell if someone is disordered in their thinking or constantly jumping from topic to topic then anyone would find that difficult to processJul 21 13:36
razielle_tzuusually i can keep up but my meds make me sleepy and a little dizzyJul 21 13:39
razielle_tzuat least until i get used to them againJul 21 13:39
cubexyzI can cite many examples of programmers that wrote long programs and nary a comment and also no man page or any other documentationJul 21 14:04
cubexyzUnix v5's man pages didn't really surviveJul 21 14:05
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cubexyzanyways, I'm trying to not do that :)Jul 21 14:08
razielle_tzulack of documentation can kill a projectJul 21 14:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756180434216587265Jul 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Interoute gets certification from Red HatJul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/wUvcljsnmz (www.telecompaper.com) ...Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MwkaFiUWmN (joindiaspora.com)Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interoute gets certification from Red Hat - TelecompaperJul 21 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Interoute gets certification from Red Hat http://www.telecompaper.c...Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756180760214765568Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Zipt free voice calling app selected as Marquee app forJul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen https://t.co/hPqb3PSzPt (www.tizenexperts.com)Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Zipt free voice calling app selected as Marquee app for Tizen - Tizen ExpertsJul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756189206343397376Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromium’s $99 Superbook turns your Android phone into aJul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 laptop (crowdfunding) https://t.co/Qao8AkUmTGJul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (liliputing.com)Jul 21 14:44
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andromium's $99 Superbook turns your Android phone into a laptop (crowdfunding) - LiliputingJul 21 14:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634946Jul 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/07/research-and-remixes-law-wont-allow #copyright #law that's designed for the 1% (also of artists/recording moguls)Jul 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/ph4nk ]Jul 21 15:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634577Jul 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Interoute gets certification from #RedHat http://www.telecompaper.com/news/interoute-gets-certification-from-red-hat--1154305 ttp://www.realwire.com/releases/Interoute-becomes-first-European-Red-Hat-Certified-Cloud-and-Service #gnu #linuxJul 21 15:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7633878Jul 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Florida police shoot black man lying down with arms in air https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/21/florida-police-shoot-black-man-lying-down-with-arms-in-air and some people still wonder why #blacklivesmatter exists?Jul 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Florida police shoot black man lying down with arms in air | US news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/ph4nl ]Jul 21 15:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The...'Jul 21 16:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/voltraco/status/756218113067192320Jul 21 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@voltraco: @schestowitz We're working on a music player for Linux, check it out! https://t.co/FbYF2evCB2Jul 21 16:07
schestowitzNice site and git repoJul 21 16:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634489Jul 21 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu Phones http://news.softpedia.com/news/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-edition-review-the-king-of-all-ubuntu-phones-506501.shtmlJul 21 16:12
schestowitz"Jul 21 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu Phones [ http://ur1.ca/ph4r3 ]Jul 21 16:12
schestowitz@Roy – maybe less posts, but with more @Roy input/thought on each one?Jul 21 16:12
schestowitzIt kinda is just a dump of news bits that one can get from a LINUX RSS feed.Jul 21 16:12
schestowitzeg:Jul 21 16:12
schestowitzThe Meizu Pro 5 Flyme OS version has a growing number of bad reviews…syncing issues, email issues, etc.Jul 21 16:12
schestowitzDoes the Ubuntu version correct all of this meaning the problems are all for sure OS-related?Jul 21 16:12
schestowitz"Jul 21 16:12
schestowitzLinux RSS feeds are, IMHO, not that helpful as there's no decent quality control (user-submitted). I already divided my output into Linux and "the rest". Is there too much Linux-related stuff?Jul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines@voltraco        http://twitter.com/voltraco/status/756218040719642625Jul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines We're working on a music player for Linux,Jul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 check it out! https://t.co/FbYF2evCB2 (voltra.co)Jul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voltra.co | Voltra Co. | Audio Player for Music CollectorsJul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756220037577318404Jul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18Jul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 “Sarah” Xfce Beta https://t.co/KStiMQh730Jul 21 16:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 21 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce Beta | TechrightsJul 21 16:20
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18...'Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756231919600144384Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Source OS https://t.co/DZGf5tL5Bs (thevarguy.com)Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232686218293248Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 The Linux Foundation Announces Agenda for LinuxCon andJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 ContainerCon Europe https://t.co/8PbQoNSvOzJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.marketwired.com)Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | The Linux Foundation Announces Agenda for LinuxCon and ContainerCon EuropeJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232862546792448Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/cNUcMKoulL (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232863360491521Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Software and Games https://t.co/W9AsHjygbCJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and Games | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232864128053248Jul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/wPSHCvVoFdJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232864765612033Jul 21 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 17:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Source OS https://t.co/rJVPyYyzGD (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:27
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232861728944130Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/OEh6rHfjCZJul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756237352645844992Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 "Gamepad support has now been merged into GNOME GamesJul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 v3.21.4 !!!"  https://t.co/TMv5TiU0o1Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (meghprkh.github.io)Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meghprkh.github.io | The state of gamepad support in Games | Megh's BlogJul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756237498926374914Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 NEC Added to Red Hat’s Certified Cloud & Service ProviderJul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Program; Paul Smith Comments https://t.co/gN0aWrea6GJul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.govconwire.com)Jul 21 17:28
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govconwire.com | NEC Added to Red Hat’s Certified Cloud & Service Provider Program; Paul Smith CommentsJul 21 17:28
*TweetTuxMachines @shaheeqa favourited 'Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late,...'Jul 21 17:32
*TweetTuxMachines @shaheeqa retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late,...'Jul 21 17:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/shaheeqa/status/756240521895538688Jul 21 19:38
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 19:38
TweetTuxMachines @shaheeqa       Source OS https://t.co/DZGf5tL5Bs (thevarguy.com)Jul 21 19:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyJul 21 19:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756348345887649793Jul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Life Is Strange Mac and Linux versions available nowJul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JW3B1kBPhP (www.thumbsticks.com)Jul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mubwx47S2x (www.gamasutra.com)Jul 22 01:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life Is Strange Mac and Linux versions available now - ThumbsticksJul 22 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Life Is Strange is out now on Steam for Mac and Linux, with the first episode available for free!Jul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756357220044943361Jul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 10 Best Open Source Collaboration Software ToolsJul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vRVtsqgjmi (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 01:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Open Source Collaboration Software Tools | Tux MachinesJul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756357220812500992Jul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Splice Machine News https://t.co/Ud24UGIlODJul 22 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 01:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Splice Machine News | Tux MachinesJul 22 01:27
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/756371337719975937Jul 22 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Any two-factor authentication is a triangulation .. https://t.co/zCazq445ivJul 22 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #​Nextcloud 10 beta includes two-factor authentication #security https://t.co/e3zYghHWgU #owncloud #freeswJul 22 02:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/756350270418870272  https://twitter.com/PizzaPartyBen/status/756349975513006081Jul 22 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClayTravis: 75% of viewers had a positive reaction to Trump's speech according to just released CNN poll. https://t.co/lUuMWcmlhSJul 22 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClayTravis: 75% of viewers had a positive reaction to Trump's speech according to just released CNN poll. https://t.co/lUuMWcmlhSJul 22 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PizzaPartyBen: CNN HAVING MELTDOWN https://t.co/2Ct07MfihoJul 22 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PizzaPartyBen: CNN HAVING MELTDOWN https://t.co/2Ct07MfihoJul 22 03:09
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7636448Jul 22 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tor Could Protect Your Smart Fridge From Spies and Hackers https://theintercept.com/2016/07/20/tor-could-protect-your-smart-fridge-from-spies-and-hackers/ better yet, don't put 'smart' anything (Internet-connected) at homeJul 22 03:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com | Tor Could Protect Your Smart Fridge From Spies and Hackers [ http://ur1.ca/ph6uh ]Jul 22 03:22
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7636368Jul 22 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft has been harvesting complete browser history since IE7 (ages ago). Not only ISPs and spies have those.Microsoft profits from thisJul 22 03:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7636448Jul 22 03:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634946Jul 22 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/07/research-and-remixes-law-wont-allow #copyright #law that's designed for the 1% (also of artists/recording moguls)Jul 22 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/ph4nk ]Jul 22 03:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756359898083028992Jul 22 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3  https://t.co/5rbgsgvwm7Jul 22 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (nwrickert2.wordpress.com)Jul 22 03:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com | Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3 | Thoughts on computingJul 22 03:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756372832351842304Jul 22 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 "Advantech’s Linux-friendly SOM-3567 and SOM-3568 COMSJul 22 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 offer Intel Bay Trail and Braswell chips"Jul 22 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3XEv4ULyEk (hackerboards.com)Jul 22 03:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Bay Trail and Braswell COMs tap new Qseven 2.1 specJul 22 03:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395638628110336Jul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Games: Stardew Valley and Life is StrangeJul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Edv6X9YwbI (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 04:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stardew Valley and Life is Strange | Tux MachinesJul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395639395590145Jul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3 https://t.co/Pl6nkFuhVzJul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 04:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3 | Tux MachinesJul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395640226066432Jul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 Updated, Remembering Mandriva, Leap 42.2a3Jul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Report https://t.co/nyPqxLshLj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 04:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 Updated, Remembering Mandriva, Leap 42.2a3 Report | Tux MachinesJul 22 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395641069182977Jul 22 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Nextcloud 10 beta includes two-factor authenticationJul 22 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 security https://t.co/g0ADHuLZfX (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 04:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​Nextcloud 10 beta includes two-factor authentication security | Tux MachinesJul 22 04:13
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cubexyzyes, I'm now fairly certain that 1994 was when everything seemed to coalesce together for LinuxJul 22 07:31
cubexyzRelease of Linux 1.0Jul 22 07:31
cubexyzRelease of X11R6 which is still a standard todayJul 22 07:31
razielle_tzufrom what i know of the timeline that sounds rightJul 22 07:32
razielle_tzuoh, i couldn't do my pi presentation today :/Jul 22 07:32
cubexyzhow come?Jul 22 07:32
razielle_tzuno one was ready for it so i'm doing it on the 12thJul 22 07:32
razielle_tzuplus i screwed the NOOBS SD card up so it wouldn't bootJul 22 07:33
razielle_tzuthe RISC and OSMC cards worked thoughJul 22 07:33
razielle_tzuNOOBS had a conflict in the amount of free space reported and what was actually there so it hung waiting for the settings partitionJul 22 07:37
razielle_tzui think it's because i didn't actualy format the card, i just deleted what was on itJul 22 07:37
cubexyzpossibleJul 22 07:37
razielle_tzui've just formatted it and i'm going to test it in a minuteJul 22 07:38
razielle_tzugoing to make sure everything is as it should be for the 12th :DJul 22 07:38
cubexyzwell a practise run is probably a good ideaJul 22 07:38
razielle_tzupity i don't have some of the hardware for it to demo other uses, like a wildlife camera or a programmable robotJul 22 07:38
razielle_tzui'll just have to make do with slides and websites about other uses and just show the different OSes and uses that can be done with it as a "standard" computerJul 22 07:40
cubexyzI guess you know there's a raspberry pi 3 now?Jul 22 07:42
razielle_tzui doJul 22 07:42
cubexyzsame connectors as the 2Jul 22 07:42
razielle_tzuand i can't decide which model(s) i want to get to replace the B+ i haveJul 22 07:43
cubexyzopenbsd is conspicuously absent from the list of operating systems for the raspberry piJul 22 07:51
razielle_tzuyeah and yet freebsd is listed in a few placesJul 22 07:51
razielle_tzubleh, two different formats and still mismatching free space reportsJul 22 07:58
razielle_tzui think that SD card is only good for my camerasJul 22 07:58
cubexyzhmmm, well the driver must support the cardJul 22 07:59
cubexyzon zaurus I refer to a special list of cards I know will work with the bog standard driverJul 22 08:00
razielle_tzuit starts loading fine but doesn't get past the resizing FAT stuff, the other microsd card using the same adaptor loads RISC with no problemsJul 22 08:00
razielle_tzugoing to try NOOBS on a standard SD card instead of one of my microsJul 22 08:01
cubexyzsee, some of the openbsd folks consider it important to defend traditional unixJul 22 08:04
cubexyzthey don't care for systemd and udevJul 22 08:05
cubexyzand I like the no binary blobs philosophyJul 22 08:05
cubexyzbut I'm no zealot, I use slack and FC1 and a ton of other thingsJul 22 08:06
cubexyzI think FC1 is actually pre-udev and of course it's pre-systemdJul 22 08:07
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 08:14
razielle_tzufor now i've given up on the pi... the sd card i wanted to try keeps getting mounted read only so i can't copy all of noobs across to it and without being able to do that it won't bootJul 22 08:14
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cubexyzmaybe try....mount -o rw,remount /whatever Jul 22 08:15
cubexyzI think sandisk may make the best sd cardsJul 22 08:16
razielle_tzui will do later when i'm not so frustrated with it, or i can try the microsd card that has risc on itJul 22 08:17
cubexyzsamsung evo is also supposed to be quite good for the piJul 22 08:18
razielle_tzuso i've heardJul 22 08:19
razielle_tzugoing to try this final card and if it doesn't work i'm giving up completely for a few hoursJul 22 08:19
razielle_tzuand going back to looking into that PXE setup i was thinking aboutJul 22 08:19
cubexyzmy streamer's storage is woefully inadequateJul 22 08:20
cubexyzjust a 4gb hard driveJul 22 08:20
cubexyzmanual is near uselessJul 22 08:21
razielle_tzui have a 16GB usb drive and two 1TB externals i could use for my pi as a media centre... but i can also map them from my linux machine so i don't need to worry about power draw on the pi itself :)Jul 22 08:21
cubexyzI wonder if android updates itselfJul 22 08:22
cubexyzI have a feeling it doesn'tJul 22 08:23
razielle_tzuprobably not, not past a certain upgrade anywayJul 22 08:23
razielle_tzuhmm.. got noobs working but the only option i had was raspbian, this seems wrong somehowJul 22 08:28
razielle_tzuoh, they changed it to only include raspbian a while back unless you use network installs :/Jul 22 08:29
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razielle_tzuhmm... pi 3 plus hardware or the vega+ (zx emulator wtih lots of games)...Jul 22 09:02
razielle_tzuthis is my choice of gift to receive for my birthdayJul 22 09:02
cubexyzI'm thinking more along the lines of a nice FPGA board... but it's an indulgenceJul 22 09:11
razielle_tzutbh there's not much hardware available for the pi 3 yet so i'm more likely to go for a pi 2 plus some gear if i don't go for the vega+Jul 22 09:12
cubexyzno minimig? :)Jul 22 09:13
razielle_tzuhehJul 22 09:13
razielle_tzuall of the kits i've seen so far are only updated as far as the pi 2 :/Jul 22 09:13
razielle_tzuthe vega+ is a zx handheld emulator that supports games/software from both versions and almost the entire library is free now :DJul 22 09:14
razielle_tzuif you can do it right you can even port your own code to itJul 22 09:14
razielle_tzuhttp://retrocomputerslimited.com/vega-plus/Jul 22 09:16
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cubexyzbut is that the same as the ZX81?Jul 22 09:17
cubexyzmaybe it's more advancedJul 22 09:19
razielle_tzuit's a complete reworking that is supported by Sinclair himselfJul 22 09:21
razielle_tzudesigned and developed by a former ZX game designer and the guy who designed the ZX80, ZX81, ZX Spectrum and QL computersJul 22 09:23
cubexyzit would be hard for me to go back to 8-bitJul 22 09:27
razielle_tzuit wouldn't for me, i still have a spectrum and sometimes play some of the old games on it.. well i did when i could get an mp3 player to work as the audio input for loading anywayJul 22 09:29
cubexyzI'll go back to the PDP-11/20 instead :)Jul 22 09:35
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 09:37
razielle_tzuwith the right gear i could make my own zx emulator from a pi...Jul 22 09:37
cubexyzsureJul 22 09:38
cubexyzor any of your desktops for that matterJul 22 09:39
razielle_tzui was thinking more handheldJul 22 09:39
razielle_tzulike a TFT screen with one of the joystick HATs and a battery packJul 22 09:39
cubexyzsee, I'd want to write programs for it then I'd have the keyboard problemJul 22 09:43
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 09:43
cubexyzI had a hand held Linux ... the zaurusJul 22 09:44
cubexyzit had this super tiny keyboard thing Jul 22 09:44
razielle_tzui figured write them in an emu on my desktop or laptop and then port them over once done and testedJul 22 09:44
razielle_tzuwhich model zaurus?Jul 22 09:45
cubexyzSL-5500Jul 22 09:46
razielle_tzuyeah that has a tiny keyboardJul 22 09:46
cubexyzit was cheap but it wasn't ideal for my purposesJul 22 09:46
razielle_tzui wouldn't say $350 now is cheap though :PJul 22 09:46
cubexyzI got it on ebay for $40Jul 22 09:47
razielle_tzuah fairJul 22 09:47
razielle_tzucheapest i see on amazon right now is $98 and the most expensive for a supposedly brand new one is $350Jul 22 09:47
razielle_tzuand one refurb for $199Jul 22 09:47
cubexyzthere's a CL-C3000 for $109 buy it now :)Jul 22 09:49
razielle_tzui think i'll get killed if i buy more things i'm not likely to use that often ;)Jul 22 09:49
cubexyzI should have tried scp on the zaurusJul 22 09:50
cubexyzcan't remember if there was scp for itJul 22 09:50
cubexyzbut it wasn't a bad linux boxJul 22 09:51
cubexyzvery tiny LCD Jul 22 09:52
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 09:52
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cubexyzI'm quite pleased with my porting to unix v5Jul 22 10:02
razielle_tzui would be too tbhJul 22 10:03
cubexyzthe funny thing is.. the assembly language code is the easiest to portJul 22 10:04
cubexyzit never changed like c language didJul 22 10:04
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 10:04
cubexyzprobably the closest I've ever come to completely understanding an OSJul 22 10:05
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razielle_tzui think you'd get on great with a friend of mine in another channel, she's porting a minimac (or something along those lines) emulator to the 3DSJul 22 10:06
razielle_tzushe's working on the GUI for it nowJul 22 10:06
cubexyzthe nintendo thing?Jul 22 10:08
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 10:08
cubexyza bit of a strange project wouldn't you say? :)Jul 22 10:09
cubexyzok, my projects are strange, but I use a real keyboardJul 22 10:09
razielle_tzuit is but she loves early apple stuff (for some reason) and this is the first project that has held her attention in a whileJul 22 10:09
razielle_tzushe does all the work on a computer and then ports and tests it on her 3DSJul 22 10:09
cubexyzdoes the 3ds have a usb port?Jul 22 10:10
razielle_tzui'm not sureJul 22 10:10
razielle_tzuit does have usb charging but i'm not sure about other supportJul 22 10:11
cubexyzoh I think there's some form of wireless keyboard for the 3ds, that explains a lotJul 22 10:11
cubexyzthere was another oddball project involving ummm simhJul 22 10:12
razielle_tzushe's looking to use just the native hardware though, once it is finished anywayJul 22 10:12
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cubexyzwell reuse is importantJul 22 10:13
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 10:14
cubexyzoh yeah now I remember....Jul 22 10:14
cubexyzsomebody used a game boy advance to run simh :)Jul 22 10:14
razielle_tzucool, strange but coolJul 22 10:15
cubexyzwhat I do makes a bit more senseJul 22 10:16
cubexyzI made my own Unix v5 distro, but I'm not going to put it on a video game thingJul 22 10:17
razielle_tzui wouldn't either tbfJul 22 10:17
cubexyzand I had a good reason tooJul 22 10:17
razielle_tzuat the same time though it teaches her a few things she wouldn't learn without a project like thisJul 22 10:17
cubexyzUnix v5 is the oldest working Unix that I would consider useableJul 22 10:18
cubexyzthe oldest most elegant, most compact systemJul 22 10:18
razielle_tzudefinitely, from what i've seen/read on it anywayJul 22 10:18
cubexyzyou must use the lowest level C function calls, so that's a learning eperience in itselfJul 22 10:19
cubexyzthere's really two big botch-ups in Unix history...Jul 22 10:20
cubexyzthe original botch-up:Jul 22 10:20
cubexyzUnix v6 was not allowed (after a certain date) to be modified outside of bell labsJul 22 10:21
cubexyzbotch-up number two:Jul 22 10:21
cubexyzbarely anyone switched to Unix/Linux in 1994Jul 22 10:21
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 10:22
cubexyzbut even worse... I didn't manage it myselfJul 22 10:23
razielle_tzua few people have said i should learn to make my own OS... my usual response is, i can make my own linux distro but that's about it right nowJul 22 10:24
cubexyzgee, why stop there :)Jul 22 10:24
cubexyzbuild your own computer from stratch firstJul 22 10:24
cubexyzscratchJul 22 10:24
razielle_tzuwell it's not really making my own distro, it's following LFS or using a studio to put one together. i probably could with enough time and materials tbhJul 22 10:25
razielle_tzugive me enough valves and pipes and i can throw together one that runs on water ;)Jul 22 10:27
cubexyzsee, the thing is a modern Linux is really the aggregation of a ton of different thingsJul 22 10:29
cubexyzreally it's too much for one person to write it allJul 22 10:30
razielle_tzujust a bitJul 22 10:30
cubexyznow you could write a simple OS, but then what? would you add tcp/ip capability, text processing, multi-user, multi-tasking?Jul 22 10:30
razielle_tzupeople would want everything but do you add it as an actual part of the kernel or as modules so the advanced users can pick and choose what to load?Jul 22 10:32
cubexyzwell I kind of do that in reverse...Jul 22 10:34
cubexyzI unload modules I don't useJul 22 10:34
razielle_tzuwith most distros it's the only way to do it now, almost everything seems to be loaded by defaultJul 22 10:34
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cubexyzbaseline Unix v5 was pretty barrenJul 22 10:46
cubexyzI had to do a ton of work to get it to a decent stateJul 22 10:47
razielle_tzuyeah but you didJul 22 10:47
cubexyzthere was rk (disk drive), tm (magtape), tc (dectape) and 8dc (dc-11 communications interface)Jul 22 10:49
cubexyzthen the trap vectors and the config table :)Jul 22 10:50
cubexyzso at least I knew what file did whatJul 22 10:50
cubexyzthen I studied the icode... the octal bootstrap program that brings up the systemJul 22 10:51
cubexyzso added the device drivers I needed, compiled the kernel, ported all the utilities I wantedJul 22 10:53
razielle_tzuthat's cool and i'd love to check it out now that i'm running nothing but linux. maybe some other time though when my meds have settled and i can focus a little moreJul 22 10:54
cubexyzrebuild libc.a too, it was missing some functions it should have hadJul 22 10:58
cubexyzthe baseline starting point... the files I started with are in uv5swre.zipJul 22 11:00
cubexyzdid I give the new distro out or not?Jul 22 11:01
razielle_tzui don't rememberJul 22 11:02
cubexyzoh yeah I did actually :)Jul 22 11:03
cubexyznot the newest one thoughJul 22 11:03
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5-feb-2015.tar.gzJul 22 11:04
cubexyzanyways, I'm not done with it yetJul 22 11:05
razielle_tzudownloading for later :)Jul 22 11:05
cubexyzplease doJul 22 11:05
razielle_tzuit just finished downloading :)Jul 22 11:05
cubexyzhaven't finished all the man pages yetJul 22 11:06
razielle_tzufair enoughJul 22 11:06
cubexyzbut the readme file should be a decent starting pointJul 22 11:06
razielle_tzui'm also looking at your FOSS-matrixJul 22 11:06
razielle_tzui already use most, if not all, of the suggested stuff in place of the stuff you suggest avoiding :PJul 22 11:08
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razielle_tzuhmm.. tried to call the .sh from my terminal and it closes because ~/simh/PDP11/v5-org doesn't existJul 22 11:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756506717488308225Jul 22 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Markt&Technik, the book & magazine publisher I worked with in the '80s, was based in Haar. Not too bad trafficwise, actually.Jul 22 11:13
razielle_tzualso the commands on lines 6 and 7 aren't foundJul 22 11:13
schestowitzComments mostly spoke about lack of hotels in that areas. I guess whatever makes it less convenient will help scuttle them faster.Jul 22 11:13
cubexyzyeah you'll need conv2Jul 22 11:14
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/conv2.cJul 22 11:15
razielle_tzuwhat about the pdp11 stuff? that was another command not foundJul 22 11:15
cubexyzok, you also need simh itself for the magic to happen :)Jul 22 11:15
razielle_tzuokJul 22 11:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756507843012993024Jul 22 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz When driving on the main street there, Wasserburger Landstraße, one hardly even notices the city border. Like a part of Munich.Jul 22 11:16
schestowitzbased on the map I saw, 10km away from Munich's centreJul 22 11:16
cubexyzit's not even that bigJul 22 11:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/simv38-1.zipJul 22 11:17
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/simhv38-1.zipJul 22 11:17
cubexyzthere might be a package thing for it, but I compiled it from sourceJul 22 11:17
razielle_tzui'll check for a package before compiling from source, might need to set a dev env up anywayJul 22 11:18
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razielle_tzuooo the simh package has 33 emulators in itJul 22 11:19
cubexyzthere's a bunch of neat stuff in there... interdata, ibm 1130, vax alsoJul 22 11:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756508621287067648Jul 22 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That's about right. You might want to compare that to the distance between the airport and the city center :-)Jul 22 11:19
schestowitzIn my article I even linked to the map (see under summary)Jul 22 11:20
razielle_tzuyeah the only one they couldn't include the microcode for is the DEC VAXJul 22 11:20
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cubexyzyeah now I remember... on openbsd you could just "pkg_add simh"Jul 22 11:23
razielle_tzuapt-get install for me, i'm on mintJul 22 11:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756509535133638656Jul 22 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Lawyers who go to the appeals board meetings are often based in Munich anyway. If they're not, they'll just stay downtown.Jul 22 11:25
schestowitzI spoke to some who had to travel themselves for the appeals (from the UK)Jul 22 11:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756511392556089344  https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756511988252016640 Jul 22 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz On such a trip it doesn't really matter whether someone needs a 20- or may be 30-euro cab ride from downtown Munich to Haar.Jul 22 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Battistelli's original idea of relocating them to Vienna, Berlin or whatever was so much worse that Haar is like a concession.Jul 22 11:32
schestowitzYes, I mentioned that, but still... I think the long-term plan is to rent some temporary space there until UPCJul 22 11:32
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cubexyzI think I put the qmc stuff in /usr/local/qmcJul 22 11:33
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cubexyzlet's see.. additions include: clear, file, nl (number), reset, fold, head, tail, pg, df (modified), ls1 (columnar ls) Jul 22 11:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 "Containers are becoming the central piece of the futureJul 22 12:07
TweetTuxMachines                 of IT. Linux has had containers for ages"Jul 22 12:07
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TweetTuxMachines @kimberlycraven  of IT. Linux has had containers for ages"Jul 22 12:15
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 22 14:19
razielle_tzuo/Jul 22 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJul 22 14:21
razielle_tzuhow are you?Jul 22 14:21
SebthreeBQM10HDok you?Jul 22 14:21
razielle_tzupretty goodJul 22 14:22
razielle_tzuoh yeah cubexyz i worked out what was wrong with that sd card, it wasn't formatting properly so i had to use a different computer to sort it out, everything is sorted nowJul 22 14:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, that was fun a litle while ago,  was reading  load of comments to some article,  the debate if a tablet/phone for most people can replace a computer or not for most things etcJul 22 14:24
razielle_tzuit can but it's not always a good idea depending on the workJul 22 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah, but foor basics a tablet is greatJul 22 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen you want more specifc things still a computerJul 22 14:25
razielle_tzuwhich is the point i was trying to make beforeJul 22 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu convergence is intresting for exampleJul 22 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I think that right there could be intersing to show at an event Jul 22 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDyes those people may not just buy a device, but to get the idea it's there etc coming Jul 22 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDand how easy it to have Ubuntu in this case on a tabletJul 22 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HDeasier than a non techi trying to put it on a computerJul 22 14:27
razielle_tzui would look into it more if i had the hardware to run it on but i don't and i'm more interested in pi projects and the Vega+Jul 22 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HDoh you have seen the Vega+ as well as have IJul 22 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HDI didn't have the money to crowd fund the spare money back in MarchJul 22 14:27
razielle_tzui'm getting one for my birthdayJul 22 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HD,but can still buy the retial version via indiegogo it seemsJul 22 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HDthe black versiionJul 22 14:27
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDlooks intereesting yes, for old spectrum gamesJul 22 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDmaybe my chinese android device can emulate them to not sueJul 22 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDgaming deviceJul 22 14:28
razielle_tzuanything you can run on a spectrum CAN be ported to it, not just the gamesJul 22 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat to android ?Jul 22 14:29
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen is your birthday as well ?Jul 22 14:29
SebthreeBQM10HDmine is coming up rather soonJul 22 14:29
razielle_tzuoctoberJul 22 14:30
razielle_tzuand no i mean to the Vega+Jul 22 14:31
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, sometimes get issues with this tablet and bluettooh keyboard and the irc client in libertine xchat gnomeJul 22 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDwhere can't type suddenlyJul 22 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDnot sure whyJul 22 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDback now though after a re bootJul 22 14:34
razielle_tzufair enoughJul 22 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDmy birthday is next weekJul 22 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah the vega+ seemed interetig Jul 22 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDloadsd of old game legally as wellJul 22 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDand yeahJul 22 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, when you find out about that ?Jul 22 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDdid you crowd fund or?Jul 22 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDthey had a previous one last year as wellJul 22 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I got that to pre order and a chinese device as well next monthJul 22 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDreallyJul 22 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor whateverJul 22 14:37
razielle_tzubrb, eatingJul 22 14:38
SebthreeBQM10HDokJul 22 14:38
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razielle_tzumy fiancee heard about it, she gets a few crowd funding newsletters and asked what i thought about itJul 22 14:41
cubexyzok, I updated Unix v5a to latest and greatestJul 22 14:42
razielle_tzui had a look and said i wanted one so she's ordering one when her student finance comes in for the new yearJul 22 14:42
razielle_tzucool cubexyzJul 22 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDoh crowd funding news letters such as?Jul 22 14:42
razielle_tzuones from indiegogo and kickstarter mostlyJul 22 14:42
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5a-jul-22-2016.tar.gzJul 22 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I guess thre's a mailing list for thoseJul 22 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDnot on them thoughJul 22 14:43
SebthreeBQM10HDshould probably be reallyJul 22 14:43
razielle_tzucubexyz: bit of a date gap between the two isn't there?Jul 22 14:43
cubexyzyeah it was time for an update :)Jul 22 14:44
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 14:44
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, ok pm me now I got a question Jul 22 14:44
razielle_tzuover a year :PJul 22 14:44
cubexyzthis version has a lot of good ideas insideJul 22 14:46
razielle_tzucoolJul 22 14:46
razielle_tzui'[ll take a look soon]Jul 22 14:46
cubexyzcan't remember all the differencesJul 22 14:47
razielle_tzui'm sure i'll come across themJul 22 14:48
cubexyzthere's hangman, tic tac toe, moo, blackjack, factor, primes plus a bunch of other stuff I've forgottenJul 22 14:48
razielle_tzuawesomeJul 22 14:48
cubexyzword1 spits out a random word from the dictionary (yes Unix v5 had a dictionary)Jul 22 14:49
razielle_tzuxDJul 22 14:49
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz, you old dude, Unix uhmm, it's mostly about Linux now :DJul 22 14:50
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh hehJul 22 14:50
SebthreeBQM10HDnot your Fedora Core 1 though, that's to old :DJul 22 14:50
razielle_tzuunix rocks, you should learn itJul 22 14:51
SebthreeBQM10HDUni is old skool except for BSDJul 22 14:51
SebthreeBQM10HDUnixJul 22 14:51
cubexyzwell I hear folks still learn history in schoolJul 22 14:52
SebthreeBQM10HDnot tech history thoughJul 22 14:52
SebthreeBQM10HDor hardlyJul 22 14:52
cubexyzyou didn't learn about Babbage or ENIAC?Jul 22 14:52
SebthreeBQM10HDbabbge maybe to some extentJul 22 14:52
SebthreeBQM10HDother one I don't think soJul 22 14:52
razielle_tzui learned bothJul 22 14:53
cubexyzfirst electronic general purpose computer... very significantJul 22 14:53
razielle_tzuvery is an understatementJul 22 14:53
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cubexyzI actually do play hangman on v5 sometimesJul 22 14:58
cubexyzthat was from qmcJul 22 14:58
cubexyzthat's why there's two different ar commandsJul 22 14:58
cubexyzthe original ar plus ar-newJul 22 14:58
cubexyzhad to use ar-new to unarchived the qmc stuffJul 22 14:59
razielle_tzufairJul 22 15:00
cubexyzit's y2k ready tooJul 22 15:04
cubexyzthe original date, ls, sh and who were renamed to date.old, ls.old, etcJul 22 15:05
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cubexyzed had a 128K filesize limit...but... none of the original files were that bigJul 22 15:18
cubexyzand v5 doesn't really have a dictionary... it's merely a wordlistJul 22 15:20
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SebthreeBQM10HDback typing issues thingey againJul 22 15:21
SebthreeBQM10HDa diffenret one though or whateverJul 22 15:21
cubexyzspell sh will print out all the words starting with shJul 22 15:21
cubexyzso it's a spelling aidJul 22 15:22
razielle_tzu:DJul 22 15:24
cubexyzin modern linux you would do:Jul 22 15:30
cubexyzcat /usr/share/dict/words | grep ^shJul 22 15:30
cubexyzah, same for bsd I would thinkJul 22 15:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, woo get to leave the country for a bit next month :dJul 22 15:37
razielle_tzucoolJul 22 15:37
SebthreeBQM10HD Canada here  I come to kill cubexyz oh yeah!Jul 22 15:39
razielle_tzuo.OJul 22 15:39
razielle_tzunoJul 22 15:39
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah he's getting to oldJul 22 15:40
razielle_tzunoJul 22 15:40
SebthreeBQM10HDit's time to kill him off :dJul 22 15:40
razielle_tzuwho else is going to maintain v5 though?Jul 22 15:40
SebthreeBQM10HDyouJul 22 15:40
razielle_tzui can't do it yetJul 22 15:40
SebthreeBQM10HDneed the young onesJul 22 15:40
SebthreeBQM10HDto take overJul 22 15:40
cubexyzthe original unix dudes are dying off, it's me or nothing :)Jul 22 15:41
razielle_tzui'll help when i've learned a bit moreJul 22 15:41
razielle_tzu:DJul 22 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I am actually going out of the country for real, but luckily for cubexyz not to track him down etc, or am I :dJul 22 15:41
razielle_tzulolJul 22 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, looks like my Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu phone is going to that country again and a new device as wellJul 22 15:42
razielle_tzufairJul 22 15:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but it came from Hong Kong directly, maybe that gaming tablet has a  hidden bomb in it or somethingJul 22 15:43
SebthreeBQM10HD:dJul 22 15:43
cubexyzI thought Unix v5 was a lot more fun than LFSJul 22 15:44
razielle_tzui didn't like LFSJul 22 15:44
razielle_tzudunno whyJul 22 15:44
SebthreeBQM10HDwhy notJul 22 15:44
razielle_tzuit was a few years ago that i tried it, can't remember what i didn't like or why i got rid of it once i was doneJul 22 15:45
cubexyzrote learning is rarely funJul 22 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HDyou bad nerd geek you!Jul 22 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Jul 22 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HDhow dare you get rid of LFS like that :DJul 22 15:46
razielle_tzui'll do what i wantJul 22 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 22 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HDand you call yourself an arch user as well :DJul 22 15:46
razielle_tzulolJul 22 15:46
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razielle_tzui have it on three laptops, each configured differentlyJul 22 15:47
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SebthreeBQM10HDput some Gentoo on there right now razielle_tzu :Jul 22 15:47
SebthreeBQM10HDdJul 22 15:47
razielle_tzunoJul 22 15:47
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SebthreeBQM10HDor fedora core 1 to attract cubexyz more properly :dJul 22 15:47
razielle_tzucubexyz: share your install and current patch set?Jul 22 15:47
cubexyzfor what? FC1?Jul 22 15:48
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:48
SebthreeBQM10HDactuallly yeah that could be somethingJul 22 15:48
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat security updates he did etcJul 22 15:48
cubexyzthere's no patch set :)Jul 22 15:48
cubexyzthere's 12 years of modificationsJul 22 15:49
SebthreeBQM10HDccJul 22 15:49
*razielle_tzu was joking but... you know ;)Jul 22 15:49
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz,  are you using that now, or old unix?Jul 22 15:49
cubexyzhahahaJul 22 15:50
cubexyzyou can't tell?Jul 22 15:50
razielle_tzulolJul 22 15:50
cubexyzif I was on Unix v5 now I would be world famous Jul 22 15:50
razielle_tzujust a littleJul 22 15:50
razielle_tzuthat would be a fun port thoughJul 22 15:51
SebthreeBQM10HDI am not geek enough to now about v5Jul 22 15:51
razielle_tzuirssi or something for v5Jul 22 15:51
cubexyzwhere do I even start? there's no ethernet driver or any form of tcp/ip in v5Jul 22 15:51
SebthreeBQM10HDoh ok so loike windows 3.1Jul 22 15:51
razielle_tzucubexyz: it's ok, we're apparently hacker enough for thisJul 22 15:52
cubexyzI can IRC from quasijarus which is a 4.3BSD derivativeJul 22 15:53
cubexyzthat's microvax, not PDP-11Jul 22 15:54
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:54
cubexyzthere's ummm... there's ethernet for PDP-11 in theoryJul 22 15:55
cubexyzbut certainly no IRC clientJul 22 15:55
razielle_tzunot yet ;)Jul 22 15:55
razielle_tzui believe in you cubexyzJul 22 15:55
razielle_tzuyou can do itJul 22 15:55
cubexyzgood grief the hardware didn't even exist back then for ethernetJul 22 15:59
cubexyz1974?Jul 22 15:59
razielle_tzu74-75, yeah no ethernetJul 22 15:59
cubexyzso obviously no v5 era driver eitherJul 22 16:00
cubexyzno, that would be too crazy a projectJul 22 16:00
razielle_tzuit would on reflection be kinda crazyJul 22 16:00
cubexyzyes :)Jul 22 16:01
cubexyzin 1974 there was RS232 communicationsJul 22 16:01
razielle_tzui should set icaros up again on either a laptop or a vm and see what i can port or just use from my old floppy imagesJul 22 16:02
razielle_tzuRS232 ins't really suitable for irc thoughJul 22 16:04
cubexyzIRC appeared much later in 1988Jul 22 16:07
cubexyzso 4.3BSD-Tahoe era or SunOS Jul 22 16:07
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 16:07
cubexyzFC1 isn't even the oldest Linux I runJul 22 16:08
cubexyzbut it's the oldest Linux I do actual work onJul 22 16:09
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 16:09
cubexyzDEC messed up big-timeJul 22 16:12
cubexyzand XeroxJul 22 16:12
razielle_tzuwhich time(s)?Jul 22 16:12
cubexyzIBM beat DEC to market with a useable Personal Computer in 1981Jul 22 16:13
razielle_tzuwhich is why the format of pc most people know used to be called an ibm cloneJul 22 16:14
cubexyzXerox had the Alto in 1973, and the excellent Star 8010 in... 1981...but...Jul 22 16:14
cubexyzthe problem was the Star cost $16KJul 22 16:14
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 16:14
cubexyzthe IBM PC was originally priced at $1500 or soJul 22 16:15
razielle_tzudidn't apple and ms bite from the xerox machines for their guis and a couple of other things?Jul 22 16:15
cubexyzit still sucked though, compared to a PDP-11Jul 22 16:15
cubexyzsure... Xerox employees went to work for AppleJul 22 16:16
cubexyzDEC sort of did have a IBM PC thingJul 22 16:17
cubexyzThe DEC Pro-300 seriesJul 22 16:17
cubexyzbut it didn't really take off like the IBM PC didJul 22 16:17
razielle_tzulike i said before, i know a little of the history of computers but nowhere near as much as i feel i should but most articles are so damn dry to readJul 22 16:18
cubexyzDEC even made 286's later onJul 22 16:19
cubexyzbut DEC was a true visionary... in the mini-eraJul 22 16:20
razielle_tzui just realised i have a 1983 print of Bishop's Comprehensive Computer Studies bookJul 22 16:20
cubexyzjust not in the microcomputer eraJul 22 16:20
cubexyzheck in 1983 I still saw CP/M computersJul 22 16:24
razielle_tzuyou will have doneJul 22 16:25
razielle_tzui knew that book waas old but i didn't realise it was 33 years old xDJul 22 16:27
razielle_tzuand most of the non-installation pics show female operators stillJul 22 16:27
razielle_tzuthat wouldn't happen in a book nowJul 22 16:28
cubexyzby 1983 the big computers were PDP-10 and IBM 4341'sJul 22 16:28
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 16:29
cubexyzyou probably wouldn't have liked those thoughJul 22 16:29
razielle_tzuoh?Jul 22 16:30
cubexyzVM/SP 3.1 was boring and utilitarianJul 22 16:31
razielle_tzua lot of the early computers were thoughJul 22 16:32
cubexyzgood for fast IO, printing out reports, doing transactions, blah blahJul 22 16:32
cubexyzboring :)Jul 22 16:32
razielle_tzunothing wrong with boring so long as you learn from it ;)Jul 22 16:34
cubexyzI thought some of the 1960s era computers were interestingJul 22 16:34
cubexyzbefore my time but interestingJul 22 16:35
razielle_tzumost things are before my time, still interesting though :PJul 22 16:35
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cubexyzhere's a screen capture of Ultrix and relatively early X11:Jul 22 16:38
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ultrix-vax-4.5-twm_1280x1024.pngJul 22 16:38
cubexyzdxpaintJul 22 16:39
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cubexyzaround 1995 or so I'd sayJul 22 16:40
SebthreeBQM10HDuh keyboard issuesJul 22 16:40
cubexyzdude, I think you need FC1 and soonJul 22 16:41
razielle_tzui know rightJul 22 16:41
razielle_tzuthe only dxpaint i really remember is Deluxe Paint III for the AmigaJul 22 16:41
razielle_tzuaround the same time as i was making music on OctamedJul 22 16:42
razielle_tzuthat was one of the first programs i used that had actual MIDI I/OJul 22 16:42
cubexyzyes, I had Deluxe Paint II for Amiga 500Jul 22 16:42
cubexyzseems pretty awesome at the timeJul 22 16:43
razielle_tzuit wasJul 22 16:43
razielle_tzuwe had plugins for making magic eye images from things we drewJul 22 16:43
razielle_tzuor from renders from real3d using screencapsJul 22 16:44
cubexyzI'd say DPII was better than dxpaint :)Jul 22 16:44
razielle_tzuDPII was greatJul 22 16:44
razielle_tzuit's one of the few things i don't have a copy of for my A600sJul 22 16:45
razielle_tzuno octamed eitherJul 22 16:45
razielle_tzubut i do have most of my fave gamesJul 22 16:45
razielle_tzumost of them are still boxed tooJul 22 16:46
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cubexyzUnix had one advantage... xbm was non-proprietaryJul 22 17:09
cubexyzthe older X11 programs used itJul 22 17:09
cubexyzsome of the early scanners outputed straight to pnmJul 22 17:11
razielle_tzuhuh, didn't know thatJul 22 17:12
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cubexyzwell I think the proper term was netppmJul 22 17:17
cubexyzI called it pnm, I forget whyJul 22 17:17
cubexyzthat might have been the older termJul 22 17:18
razielle_tzufairJul 22 17:20
cubexyzwell mogrify converted from what I called pnm to jpgJul 22 17:27
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SebthreeBQM10HD1 2 3 razielle_tzu]]Jul 22 18:46
SebthreeBQM10HD1 2 3 razielle_tzuJul 22 18:46
razielle_tzu'supJul 22 18:46
SebthreeBQM10HDnm u?Jul 22 18:46
razielle_tzuwatching TMNTJul 22 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDwhats that?Jul 22 18:47
razielle_tzuteenage mutant ninja turtlesJul 22 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDoh rightJul 22 18:47
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how?Jul 22 18:49
SebthreeBQM10HDand is that the new one or?Jul 22 18:49
razielle_tzuhow am i watching it? popcorntimeJul 22 18:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh you pirate you!Jul 22 18:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, apparnatly they stopped making that as well or something, I have heard of it, but not usedJul 22 18:50
razielle_tzui wasn't convinced about seeing it in the cinemaJul 22 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah some films aren't quite worth the effort of going to cinema to see reallyJul 22 18:50
SebthreeBQM10HDespeically if on ownJul 22 18:50
razielle_tzu yeahJul 22 18:51
SebthreeBQM10HDthe make comment just now was for the program by the wayJul 22 18:51
SebthreeBQM10HDthe pirate softwareJul 22 18:51
*SebthreeBQM10HD piracy naughtye naughtey, bad girl guy thingJul 22 18:52
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu ^Jul 22 18:52
razielle_tzui've pirated stuff since i was a kid hawking floppies for the AMigaJul 22 18:52
SebthreeBQM10HDhawking ?Jul 22 18:52
razielle_tzuselling, buying, tradingJul 22 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh right okJul 22 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDbut naughtey naughteyJul 22 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, what do you think of old games that aren't sold anymore, so abandonware ?Jul 22 18:53
razielle_tzuthey should be available by whatever meansJul 22 18:53
SebthreeBQM10HDthey are on certain thingsJul 22 18:54
SebthreeBQM10HDbut still copyrighted etcJul 22 18:54
razielle_tzuand definitely should be archived somewhereJul 22 18:54
SebthreeBQM10HDyou think perfectly ok or should be if not, to download them and play ?Jul 22 18:54
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 18:54
razielle_tzuit should be fineJul 22 18:54
SebthreeBQM10HDit's a bit of a grey area apparantly or I am not sure quiteJul 22 18:54
razielle_tzuit's a grey area unless you're a copyright lawyerJul 22 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat do you mean exactly?Jul 22 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDand indeed may as well have people still playing or emulating it to play etc, that really want to play itJul 22 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDstillJul 22 18:55
SebthreeBQM10HDno longer sold after allJul 22 18:56
razielle_tzusoftware devs, archivists and other people that aren't lawyers tend to want stuff available. lawyers want to uphold the letter of the copyright law but not the spirit so abandonware should be abandoned as far as they are concernedJul 22 18:56
SebthreeBQM10HDthe letter?Jul 22 18:57
razielle_tzuyeah, what the law says, as it says it instead of any interpretationJul 22 18:57
razielle_tzuand it's stupidJul 22 18:57
SebthreeBQM10HDit says what?Jul 22 18:57
razielle_tzucopyright law states that even archive.org is breaking the law by archiving old software for use with emulators despite the fact that it's mostly outdated or abandoned software because the copyright is still in effectJul 22 18:58
SebthreeBQM10HDoh?Jul 22 18:59
razielle_tzulife of creator of the work plus 75 years is the term for the copyright in most casesJul 22 18:59
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razielle_tzuam i really discussing copyright law?Jul 22 19:00
razielle_tzuand why i think it's stupid when it comes to software?Jul 22 19:00
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 22 19:03
razielle_tzuwelcome backJul 22 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah pressed the wrong thing in hthis Jul 22 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDor whatever and uhJul 22 19:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yes the 75 years thing is silly  for gamesJul 22 19:04
razielle_tzuit doesn't just apply to games though, it applies to EVERYTHINGJul 22 19:05
SebthreeBQM10HDbut no one really cares like that or much about abanonware etc I expectJul 22 19:05
razielle_tzuall software, books, music, everythingJul 22 19:05
razielle_tzuyou'd be surprisedJul 22 19:05
SebthreeBQM10HDyep your  copyrighted toJul 22 19:05
razielle_tzuit makes it really difficult to create derivative works of anything without breaching copyrightJul 22 19:06
SebthreeBQM10HDCreative Commons for the win :)Jul 22 19:06
razielle_tzuCC, GPL, BSD, MIT... all good licenses but they still have faultsJul 22 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756597151069769728Jul 22 19:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.7 Notebook Power Testing: Possible RegressionJul 22 19:13
TweetTuxMachines                 When Idling https://t.co/GfS1McMK6C (www.phoronix.com)Jul 22 19:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.7 Notebook Power Testing: Possible Regression When Idling - PhoronixJul 22 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Three Years Ago Today Ubuntu Made Its Biggest GambleJul 22 19:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QDou9lpMnv (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 22 19:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Three Years Ago Today Ubuntu Made Its Biggest Gamble - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 22 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756638102534447104Jul 22 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 22/7/2016: Wine 1.9.15, KaOS 2016.07 ISOJul 22 20:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/756642939632226304Jul 22 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756661686895906816Jul 22 22:35
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/zvSYl4r1GJJul 22 22:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 22 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756661687629950976Jul 22 22:35
TweetTuxMachines                 COM and Pico-ITX dev kit run Linux on dual-core Cortex-A7Jul 22 22:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HkMjFp2Ssm (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 22:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | COM and Pico-ITX dev kit run Linux on dual-core Cortex-A7 | Tux MachinesJul 22 22:35
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cubexyzyou're linking to a Matt Asay article? :-/Jul 23 07:02
cubexyzdon't worry about lock-in? really?Jul 23 07:04
cubexyzok, time to remove the tux games links since it's a gambling site now :-/Jul 23 07:10
cubexyza pityJul 23 07:11
cubexyzok, finally did a proper update to the Unix/Linux page:Jul 23 07:15
cubexyzhttp://cubeman.org/linux.htmlJul 23 07:15
cubexyzanti-lock argument... emulators is the easy counter exampleJul 23 07:16
cubexyzam I locked into using a PDP-11/70? No :)Jul 23 07:17
cubexyzok, so maybe lock-in isn't the biggest problemJul 23 07:20
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schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 08:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 08:36
schestowitzExcellent news, signs of disintegration/decayJul 23 08:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 08:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Microsoft lays off remaining handful of Microsoft Press staff @schestowitz https://t.co/s9IKy6a0QaJul 23 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Microsoft lays off remaining handful of Microsoft Press staff | ZDNetJul 23 08:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756831194025758720Jul 23 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Well @schestowitz I didn't set out to do it to them. It's something that they did to themselves.Jul 23 08:40
schestowitzMade too many enemies, IMHO, realised it too late. Like Monsanto of software world... #microsoftJul 23 08:40
cubexyzDARPA funded Berkeley's Computer System Research Group (they liked 3BSD)Jul 23 08:48
cubexyz4BSD lead to csh, delivermail (antecedent of sendmail) and curses libraryJul 23 08:49
cubexyzthen later on 4.3BSD was released, but later ported to some 68000-based computersJul 23 08:51
cubexyzin 1994 4.4BSD-lite was released, contained no AT&T sourceJul 23 08:53
cubexyzwhat we have now, the NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD were derived from 4.4.BSD-lite R2Jul 23 08:54
cubexyzberkeley sockets was the API for internet communicationsJul 23 09:05
cubexyzwinsock was heavily based on berkeley socketsJul 23 09:06
schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/22/armageddon-approaches-paul-craig-roberts/Jul 23 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Armageddon Approaches -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.orgJul 23 09:10
schestowitzWeird takeJul 23 09:10
cubexyzok, missile bases in Romania... Trump as president...Jul 23 09:14
cubexyzthat does seem a bit concerningJul 23 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching inJul 23 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Q1 next year https://t.co/uaXeT1yrnPJul 23 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756854276786360321Jul 23 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Hidden in Plain Sight, a local multiplayer game thatJul 23 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 sounds hilarious is now on Linux https://t.co/COJdfO8ug3Jul 23 10:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 23 10:55
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schestowitz[14:14] <cubexyz> ok, missile bases in Romania... Trump as president...Jul 23 10:56
schestowitzThey say they're defensive/interceptorsJul 23 10:56
schestowitzBut it's hard to tellJul 23 10:56
schestowitzthey can hide some nukes under the groundJul 23 10:56
schestowitzand use the launchers offensively thereJul 23 10:56
schestowitzor diffuse MAD at early launch phases while their own missiles (NATO) go on towards Russian targetsJul 23 10:57
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OneThe building reserved for the BoA is supposed to be in Vaterstetten, which is near Haar (hust a bit farther).Jul 23 12:24
OnejustJul 23 12:24
OneIf they are really going to move there I would regard it as a total waste of EPO money. A sign of further erdoganization of what was once a respectable European organization fallen prey today to the megalomaniac ambitions of a ruthless president.Jul 23 12:26
schestowitzHeyJul 23 12:28
schestowitzIs this confirmed?Jul 23 12:29
schestowitzwhat level of certainty?Jul 23 12:29
schestowitzhey, if PC is on house ban, does moving to another house mean he's allowed in?Jul 23 12:30
schestowitzI mean, irish-German, Iranian-German, armed Nazi and all...Jul 23 12:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/756895935972638720Jul 23 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Удаляйте Spotify https://t.co/KsVxhBDeZiJul 23 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Spotify will play ads based on your playlists https://t.co/pebl8DYdiI anybody shocked? Reject 'cloud' BS...Jul 23 13:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/756899063308705792Jul 23 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz methane has a much higher radiative effect then CO2.Jul 23 13:10
schestowitz"Tell us why this account should be verified. Limit 500 characters."Jul 23 13:32
schestowitzIn the past, or over the past decade, on at least 6 occasions, people impersonated this in order to demonise me.Jul 23 13:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/756899707398610944Jul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: #OpChemtrails @OpChemtrails #Earth's #Mantle heating up, global extreme weather https://t.co/vuARToz3WQ @schestowitz https://t.co/SU0f5Sluq7Jul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> SOTT Earth Changes Summary - June 2016: Extreme Weather, Planetary Upheaval, Meteor Fireballs -- Earth Changes -- Sott.netJul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now the proof: permafrost 'bubbles' are leaking #methane 200 times above the norm https://t.co/voEqqpzcl8 #siberia #russiaJul 23 13:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BurtonJony/status/756901373720031232Jul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BurtonJony: Your dad is fuming https://t.co/7fJaOBY0GIJul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #mufc as garments shop. Probably made at #bangladesh at 1% the cost of high street prices https://t.co/42U65elXrr association by uniform?Jul 23 13:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/756902760877023232Jul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @schestowitz Watch this with an open mind... 3 scenarios... the last ticks many boxes https://t.co/VTj2dVCAnOJul 23 13:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swardley/status/756902814794801152Jul 23 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swardley: Oh, this is bad .... very bad -> https://t.co/6tlY1mS62jJul 23 13:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756865180647190528Jul 23 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 "Adlink’s Linux-ready MXE-5500 fanless industrialJul 23 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 computer offers 6th Gen Core CPUs"Jul 23 13:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756866202820050944Jul 23 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 7 Best Markdown Editors for Linux https://t.co/TxmNu5hjXhJul 23 13:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 7 Best Markdown Editors for LinuxJul 23 13:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756866988463493120Jul 23 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching inJul 23 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Q1 next year https://t.co/IDj4UZG22ZJul 23 13:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet CoupleJul 23 16:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet Couple | Tux MachinesJul 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756954871459377152Jul 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear: Should Manufacturers be Given More Freedom?Jul 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a2waOG1Ovl (www.androidheadlines.com)Jul 23 16:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Android Wear: Should Manufacturers be Given More Freedom? | Androidheadlines.comJul 23 16:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756955452827729920Jul 23 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 $99 Superdock turns Android phones into laptops — butJul 23 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 why? https://t.co/j5RyusfFXO (mashable.com)Jul 23 16:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | $99 Superdock turns Android phones into laptops -- but why?Jul 23 16:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756956568441290753Jul 23 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Call for GNOME Asia Summit 2017 Host ProposalsJul 23 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bOaaFv9b7u (www.gnome.org)Jul 23 17:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Call for GNOME.Asia Summit 2017 Host Proposals – GNOMEJul 23 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756956857760112641Jul 23 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 First round of Fedora 24 Updated Lives now available.Jul 23 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (torrents expected later this week)Jul 23 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/mCDkKOhfCL (linuxmodder.wordpress.com)Jul 23 17:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxmodder.wordpress.com | First round of Fedora 24 Updated Lives now available. (torrents expected later this week) – Linux-modder's Tech CornerJul 23 17:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756957003281498117Jul 23 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 BlackBerry Hamburg Android phone release date soon, FCCJul 23 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 now https://t.co/WC55hdheYC (www.slashgear.com)Jul 23 17:51
TweetTuxMachines Jul 23 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BlackBerry Hamburg Android phone release date soon, FCC now - SlashGearJul 23 17:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756964615083454464Jul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 This smart shell can turn your Android smartphone into aJul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 complete laptop https://t.co/PBZ6ldF7XRJul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (timesofindia.indiatimes.com)Jul 23 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | This smart shell can turn your Android smartphone into a complete laptop - Times of IndiaJul 23 17:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756965177317351424Jul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia set to make a comeback with two Android devicesJul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YRiZQeUQQP (timesofindia.indiatimes.com)Jul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines Jul 23 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Nokia set to make a comeback with two Android devices by the end of year - Times of IndiaJul 23 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756970095226806272Jul 23 18:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet CoupleJul 23 18:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1wDAlmnttt (www.linuxinsider.com)Jul 23 18:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet Couple | Reviews | LinuxInsiderJul 23 18:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756970686934048769Jul 23 18:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Toutou 7.3.2-alpha "SlaXen"  relasedJul 23 18:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eExKiSXzBS (toutoulinux.free.fr)Jul 23 18:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toutoulinux.free.fr | Toutou Linux - Distribution linux ultra lgreJul 23 18:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756971287344476161Jul 23 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The Living Dungeon developers looking to see if there'sJul 23 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 interest for a Linux version https://t.co/WFGjjAU4PyJul 23 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 23 18:01
TweetTuxMachines Jul 23 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Living Dungeon developers looking to see if there's interest for a Linux version | GamingOnLinuxJul 23 18:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756972297706172416Jul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 openFrameworks C++ toolkit now has a Vulkan backend thatJul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 supports Linux https://t.co/1EwNxY7Q0eJul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines Jul 23 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openFrameworks C++ toolkit now has a Vulkan backend that supports Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756972447023435777Jul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Sinner’s Sorrow, a grim looking action adventure isJul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 coming to Linux https://t.co/ANBfrOvHZbJul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines Jul 23 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sinner’s Sorrow, a grim looking action adventure is coming to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756993124883312640Jul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/hV0QKDteG9Jul 23 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 19:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 23 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756993125655064577Jul 23 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/U2G9QopZ4fJul 23 20:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756993126766555136Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/kFFt3vFJG6Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756995196097822721Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Packaging Happenings In The Fedora, Arch SpaceJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RNfgTBwez3 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 23 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Snappy Packaging Happenings In The Fedora, Arch Space - PhoronixJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/757010352559132672Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/EaL7xLOuhzJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/757010353276321793Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Emulation or WINE https://t.co/mDGWMkhonaJul 23 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulation or WINE | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/757010353968418816Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/6VYGUtfBgqJul 23 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/757010355176386560Jul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/DGklKbqHfJJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/757010355885187072Jul 23 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/xNHS0oe03JJul 23 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:23
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cubexyzhere's a little history of pre-internet online access in canada:Jul 23 22:13
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/coppermine/displayimage.php?pid=1099&fullsize=1Jul 23 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maxhost.org | Coppermine Photo Gallery: Click image to close this windowJul 23 22:13
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cubexyzTelidon pooped out in 1985Jul 23 22:16
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cubexyzsome more historical notes:Jul 23 22:18
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/videotex.txtJul 23 22:18
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another_I am awaiting my president´s order..... he will ask us  to defend the freedom and the democratic rights in Europe...... With the flag of.....? EPO....? Jul 17 00:01
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schestowitzyeah, ahJul 17 00:04
schestowitzBattistelliJul 17 00:04
schestowitzwhat an oppressorJul 17 00:04
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/iw9yjfvdiZ'Jul 17 00:04
cubexyzFoundation for Economic Education = FEE?Jul 17 00:09
cubexyzis this a parody site?Jul 17 00:10
MinceRdunnoJul 17 00:10
cubexyznope, it seems he's seriousJul 17 00:11
cubexyzhold on a sec...Jul 17 00:11
cubexyzat the end he says "Society would be tremendously more prosperous if IP were abolished"Jul 17 00:12
cubexyza free-market think tank says wikipediaJul 17 00:16
cubexyzcompletely misinterpreted that headline...Jul 17 00:18
cubexyzI saw theft and I figured it was one of those pro-DRM sitesJul 17 00:18
MinceR:)Jul 17 00:23
MinceRwell, there's the slogan of "property is theft"Jul 17 00:23
MinceR(which i disagree with)Jul 17 00:23
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cubexyzI wouldn't go that farJul 17 00:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/The_Code_Shirts/status/754451749868449792Jul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/iw9yjfvdiZJul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/arion212112/status/754455679566512128Jul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    System Shock Pre-Alpha Demo now available on Linux,Jul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines @arion212112    nearing stretch goal https://t.co/Uk8QfZNM8AJul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System Shock Pre-Alpha Demo now available on Linux, nearing stretch goal | GamingOnLinuxJul 17 00:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754456945138896897Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/gjsq92SLbbJul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754456945960943616Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/t7LUcucrn1Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754456946774724609Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Phoronix Graphics News https://t.co/BbsdgGxbnhJul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 00:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix Graphics News | Tux MachinesJul 17 00:26
cubexyzok, I can mod the original Imakefile filesJul 17 00:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/okertbrian/status/754455718787416064Jul 17 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@okertbrian: @schestowitz no she worked hard for that money.Jul 17 00:46
schestowitzbowing to Abdullah?Jul 17 00:46
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/t7LUcucrn1'Jul 17 00:46
cubexyzthe mid-80s dilemma: Vax 780 running VMS or 3bsd (or even newer)Jul 17 00:51
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cubexyzbtw Cardiff University uses openmotif in it's CS lecturesJul 17 01:16
cubexyzit used to be supported by Sun, HP and SGIJul 17 01:17
cubexyzoriginally motif was DEC and HP Jul 17 01:17
cubexyzthe "prima facie" of Unix toolkitsJul 17 01:18
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnbGaL0WgAAhVfm.jpgJul 17 02:15
schestowitzMinceR: cleverJul 17 02:19
schestowitzWipe POWA!Jul 17 02:19
MinceRlolJul 17 02:20
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnbAvblWIAICUBy.jpgJul 17 02:21
cubexyzI got a wiper too:Jul 17 02:21
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-cleaner.jpg Jul 17 02:21
cubexyzhaha, ok I get it nowJul 17 02:23
cubexyznothing but bad choices it seems these daysJul 17 02:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/754462364116942848Jul 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/gjsq92SLbbJul 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 17 02:34
*TweetTuxMachines @OMGandWTF favourited 'Antergos 2016.06.14 ISOs Are Out Now, the Last...'Jul 17 02:34
MinceRindeedJul 17 02:35
cubexyzI made some improvements to my notes on Unix/BSD and why it's important:Jul 17 02:37
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/importance-of-unix-and-bsd.txtJul 17 02:37
cubexyzok, everyone seems to like pictures so...Jul 17 02:54
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/importance-of-bsd.pngJul 17 02:54
cubexyzdon't worry, I'll make a linux one tooJul 17 02:55
MinceRbut what about gnu? :>Jul 17 02:56
cubexyzGNU is important tooJul 17 02:56
MinceRanother point for bsd: greater resistance to systemd and the likeJul 17 02:56
MinceRat least for netbsd and openbsdJul 17 02:56
cubexyzbut remember GNU duplicated a lot of UnixJul 17 02:57
cubexyzthere needed to be a Unix to duplicate fromJul 17 02:58
cubexyzthere's lots of stuff that seemed totally straight-forward and understandable from early UnixJul 17 03:00
MinceRyesJul 17 03:03
MinceRand there needed to be a duplicate that was free software :>Jul 17 03:03
cubexyzStallman was rebelling against closed source UnixJul 17 03:07
cubexyz1984, things were different thenJul 17 03:09
cubexyzbut by 1996 you had openbsdJul 17 03:10
cubexyzopenbsd gave us opensshJul 17 03:12
cubexyzI didn't embrace it immediately myself, despite exposure to closed source UnixJul 17 03:13
cubexyzdespite _trying_ to sell walnut creek FreeBSD CD'sJul 17 03:14
cubexyzit took... oh 1994 to 2003... 9 years for me to really get into itJul 17 03:15
cubexyzinstinctively I knew it was a good idea though... even in 1994Jul 17 03:15
cubexyzthen look what happened to Fedora Linux...Jul 17 03:16
cubexyzbtw all the walnut creek CD-ROMs are on archive.orgJul 17 03:21
cubexyzhttps://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdromJul 17 03:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | The Walnut Creek CD-ROM Collection : Free Texts : Download & Streaming : Internet ArchiveJul 17 03:21
MinceRhttp://www.brokennews.com.au/2016/06/24/australia-leave-au-stralia/Jul 17 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could Australia leave the AU and become Stralia? - BrokenNews.com.auJul 17 03:25
schestowitzAuxitJul 17 03:43
schestowitzgnJul 17 03:43
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Opera lost the best thing it had going for it when it started using Chromium.Jul 17 04:48
DaemonFCChromium is not particularly well designed.Jul 17 04:49
DaemonFChttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287Jul 17 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.chromium.org | Issue 28287 - chromium - Metabug for issues related to making a real release for Linux distros - MonorailJul 17 04:49
DaemonFCSome of the problems that are still keeping it from being packaged in Fedora.Jul 17 04:50
DaemonFCThere's been some progress, but this has been an ongoing issue since 7 years ago.Jul 17 04:50
DaemonFCGoogle also grabbed some files that don't have a license.Jul 17 04:51
DaemonFCThey probably figured that they could get away with it because they're a huge company, but that makes it non-free software and possibly copyright infringing.Jul 17 04:51
DaemonFCSome are marked WONTFIX just because they were open for so many years without a fix.Jul 17 04:52
DaemonFCIn any event, Google obviously has no intention of ever providing code that's easily usable by others.Jul 17 04:53
DaemonFCI went to Elgin today on the Metra.Jul 17 05:13
DaemonFCKilled the time on the train to catch Pokemon.Jul 17 05:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754489406929633280Jul 17 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Advancements in Gnome Games: multi-disk support Jul 17 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JwNNMzmJdV (rgascons.cc)Jul 17 06:28
TweetTuxMachines Jul 17 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rgascons.cc | Advancements in Gnome Games: multi-disk supportJul 17 06:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754502632656412673Jul 17 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/yPKPhF6fkt (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 06:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesJul 17 06:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/754585920356179968Jul 17 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: And coincidentally with a self-induced coup in Turkey. https://t.co/muvbevHxHzJul 17 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: After a lot of pressure & gossip #obama had to release documents about Saudi regime's role in 9/11, released it late Friday on holiday weekJul 17 09:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrisMcCallen/status/754595745378996224Jul 17 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrisMcCallen: @sfmnemonic @schestowitz @TelegraphNews worst pm ever. She is NOT for the peopleJul 17 09:57
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schestowitz> No, I hadn't heard of it. Just had a look. It seems to be stuck in 2013.Jul 17 10:40
schestowitz> Jul 17 10:40
schestowitz> FWIW, I'm a big fan of open-source - our patent attorney records areJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> managed using an open source system, and I regularly contribute toJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> debugging and developing it. But I also think that software should beJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> patentable in the same way as any other type of technical activity. TheJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> problem is that patent offices aren't up to the challenge of judgingJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> inventiveness when it comes to software. The prior art databases areJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> woefully inadequate, and the examiners are not knowledgeable enough (IJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> should know - I was one). So, clever patent attorneys were able to runJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> rings around the examiners, and applications were getting granted whichJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> shouldn't. Instead of investing in developing their prior art databases,Jul 17 10:41
schestowitz> and training new examiners, the patent offices chose to cheat by hidingJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> behind Art. 52(2)(c) EPCJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> <https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/2013/e/ar52.html>Jul 17 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | Article 52 – Patentable inventions - The European Patent Convention, Convention on the Grant of European Patents – (European Patent Convention), Part II – Substantive patent law, Chapter I – PatentabilityJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> whenever possible. A new criterion of patentability was formed -Jul 17 10:41
schestowitz> "technical character", and a whole new examination approach graduallyJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> took root, based largely on assertions about what is and isn't technical.Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzYes, but taking this one step further:Jul 17 10:41
schestowitz Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzIf examiners cannot identify what software is novel as it moves forward too fast and so much of it exists...Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzHow can a software developer be aware of existing patents, work around them, etc.Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzThis is why, in practice, software patents are inadequate. There are other reasons.Jul 17 10:41
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2016-07-09Jul 17 10:49
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MinceR17 044312 < schestowitz> AuxitJul 17 10:49
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TweetTuxMachines                 IBM Launches Blockchain Cloud Services On Linux ServerJul 17 11:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cryptocoinsnews.com | IBM Launches Blockchain Cloud Services On Linux Server - CCN: Financial Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency NewsJul 17 11:16
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schestowitz> I'm not aware of any reason why software shouldn't be treated the sameJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> as other technical fields - apart from the practical difficulty ofJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> examining it. There are other technologies which move forward just asJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> fast, if not faster. What's missing is a decent set of tools forJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> assessing inventiveness. This would allow the inventiveness threshold toJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> be set high enough so that spurious applications would not get through.Jul 17 11:26
schestowitz> In theory, anyway...Jul 17 11:26
schestowitzDon't be offended by my question, but did you write computer programs? There is rarely something too innovative about them, unless they pertain some some specialised scientific discipline which is, in its own right, patentable.Jul 17 11:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 11:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @ReddBazaar retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain...'Jul 17 11:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7619005Jul 17 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Jul 17 11:55
schestowitz"hit us bushie one more time"Jul 17 11:55
schestowitzshock and awesomeness..Jul 17 11:55
schestowitzhttps://67.media.tumblr.com/e181b5e00b1e337e87d604cb85c9a38d/tumblr_oagaue2zKW1qj88rjo1_1280.jpgJul 17 12:00
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/a77fkdxgstJul 17 12:38
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schestowitzResearcher-: you showed up and remained idle for two weeks now in all our channelsJul 17 18:44
schestowitzwho are you researching for?Jul 17 18:44
schestowitzbecause it feels like this is the behavious one might expect from a spy, not a researcherJul 17 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/SemprePhi/status/754710663059079168Jul 17 18:51
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TweetTuxMachines @SemprePhi      Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 18:51
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MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13726764_1748862385392616_5147162320027346721_n.jpg?oh=571aa88981a1f71fb3ef51477717a87d&oe=5824FF38Jul 17 19:44
schestowitzusefulJul 17 19:53
schestowitzas this related to EPOJul 17 19:53
MinceRhow?Jul 17 19:54
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schestowitzbattistelli does thisJul 17 19:55
schestowitzfaking attacksJul 17 19:55
schestowitzhe has 6 bodyguards nowJul 17 19:55
schestowitzand people are afraid of himJul 17 19:55
schestowitzI will use a portion of this image laterJul 17 19:55
MinceRi seeJul 17 19:56
MinceR:)Jul 17 19:56
schestowitzmaybe in an hour...Jul 17 19:56
schestowitzMinceR: http://techrights.org/2016/07/17/persistratos-bodyguards-image/Jul 17 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Benoît Battistelli and Persistratos | TechrightsJul 17 20:04
schestowitzreaders will get itJul 17 20:04
schestowitzResearcher- (iana@gtld.ovh)  might be a spyJul 17 20:06
schestowitzbut I hope I'm wrongJul 17 20:06
MinceR:)Jul 17 20:07
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TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft’s Windows RT security patch also stops you fromJul 17 21:20
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TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That’s Known About theJul 17 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 FreeType 2.7 Bringing DirectWrite/ClearType-LikeJul 17 21:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Rendering -- Much Better Looking Fonts On LinuxJul 17 21:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Extraction support in NautilusJul 17 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 Undertale now available for SteamOS & Linux and it's onJul 17 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 sale https://t.co/XNgwWZQL7L (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 17 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 Lovecraftian Horror Game "Conarium" Confirmed For LinuxJul 17 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 The sad state of Linux download securityJul 17 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines                 GIMP and LibreOffice on Ubuntu PhoneJul 17 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.2.1 Releases Tomorrow https://t.co/OrexycvfRnJul 17 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754820397669969920Jul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/nSes09yhJxJul 18 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines@OpenSourceTpNws  http://twitter.com/OpenSourceTpNws/status/754828972408446976Jul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/URNCr5aMqfJul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (gettopical.com) via @tuxmachinesJul 18 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain on LinuxONEJul 18 01:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/CertDepot/status/754832572178239488Jul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes https://t.co/RxRqUv8eEQJul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines @CertDepot      (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 01:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes | Tux MachinesJul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834109101244417Jul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian News https://t.co/WsV0DeC6Go (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 01:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News | Tux MachinesJul 18 01:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834109810081792Jul 18 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/YP5gYjkDvLJul 18 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834110510538752Jul 18 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/nzXeloG2FzJul 18 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834111257194497Jul 18 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/40Acg2HkU1Jul 18 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754834112251256832Jul 18 07:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/MY7kzmU0g7Jul 18 07:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/joles4019/status/754821933405876224Jul 18 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joles4019: I believe this to be happening! https://t.co/UEBR13QKV9Jul 18 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dennis Cooper fears #censorship as #Google erases blog without warning https://t.co/82n8trR1q7 https://t.co/gWvYilMnXT cc @ipkatJul 18 07:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754912411451269120 https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754912700061409280 https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754914059217145856Jul 18 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz dont forget also "black people and white people shouldnt marry". my brotherinlaw's 1st wife was black in 70s, never forgave AliJul 18 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz if you thought journalists had it bad before where they could get jailed for saying wrong things: you aint seen nothing yet.Jul 18 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz NoAgenda played newscast from day earlier,saying 8 guns stolen @ pawshop: threats 2 kill cops w/ them. City knew this was cominJul 18 07:58
schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754915063551655937Jul 18 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | TwitterJul 18 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/754915063551655937Jul 18 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HelwaniNose: @schestowitz Pix?Jul 18 07:59
schestowitzMaybe later as it's not complete yetJul 18 07:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7621790Jul 18 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@meitar@joindiaspora.com: Notice how we call these "bomb robots" now? Used to be "bomb DISPOSAL robots." Funny that. Company stock is up, tho. https://twitter.com/CNET/status/754758700154355713Jul 18 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CNET: Republican convention gets 'bomb robots' like the one used against the Dallas shooter https://t.co/knPUAOqs9a https://t.co/roJxs3ktwJJul 18 08:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/754932355169656832Jul 18 08:35
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TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 08:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/754727496390680576Jul 18 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jwildeboer: Death penalty announced, purge of judicial system, threats against journalists. Seems democracy in #turkey is working as planned. #sarcasmJul 18 08:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RFSolutionsLtd/status/754668510450683904Jul 18 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RFSolutionsLtd: We have 5 pairs of our powerful 16km GAMMA module to giveaway. Share or re-tweet this post to be entered in the draw https://t.co/uiDadZYaGWJul 18 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RFSolutionsLtd: We have 5 pairs of our powerful 16km GAMMA module to giveaway. Share or re-tweet this post to be entered in the draw https://t.co/uiDadZYaGWJul 18 08:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/754956575765241858Jul 18 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz BTW, thx 4 sharing Seattle GNU/Linux Conf https://t.co/DxHJqpkoms pondering on showcasing #Reiser4 ;-) https://t.co/G6QO8mYyl3Jul 18 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> alg0rhythm.livejournal.com | Submit presentations for Seattle GNU/Linux Conference - Socratic ThinkingJul 18 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DebianBug: New bug: 831286 - #installation-reports - installation-reports: Reiser4 (SFRN 4.0.1) linux-image-4.6.0-1+reiser4.... https://t.co/Ki0AdbkbhkJul 18 09:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754942519494971393Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux https://t.co/ng5VeRfcRDJul 18 09:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux • The RegisterJul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754948572332777472Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux https://t.co/oKqhLxI9CaJul 18 09:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754952681022783489Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Lite 3.0  https://t.co/4M06L4uIzT (error)Jul 18 09:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Jul 18 09:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754962676401446912Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft blocks Linux installationsJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ulJUq72qTi (www.techeye.net)Jul 18 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techeye.net | Microsoft blocks Linux installations – TechEyeJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754979862989897728Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7Jul 18 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7 | TechrightsJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989210512134144Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989211430719488Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/CghX3cvabfJul 18 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989212332531712Jul 18 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/h4HxugHdqDJul 18 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989213095829504Jul 18 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora News https://t.co/yAJb7GKn0d (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora News | Tux MachinesJul 18 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 15:18
cubexyzosmo is an awesome little programJul 18 16:10
cubexyzuses gtk Jul 18 16:11
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razielle_tzuwhat's it for?Jul 18 16:29
cubexyzah, I was looking for a calendar program... but it's more than that... Jul 18 16:29
cubexyza bit like korganizer but not as bloatedJul 18 16:29
razielle_tzuoh coolJul 18 16:30
cubexyzevidently Osmo is a common finnish first nameJul 18 16:36
razielle_tzuyeahJul 18 16:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755055182359191552Jul 18 17:27
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7Jul 18 17:27
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/3brYLBdW9t (techrights.org)Jul 18 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7 | TechrightsJul 18 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076538819760128Jul 18 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded HardwareJul 18 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XpGi7nhTvN (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded Hardware | Tux MachinesJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076539667001344Jul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Prometheus unbound: Open source cloud monitoringJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/k5XM4QH8Vr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 18:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Prometheus unbound: Open source cloud monitoring | Tux MachinesJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076951799271424Jul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded HardwareJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ENBylUOdpn (www.linux.com)Jul 18 18:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded Hardware | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJul 18 18:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755098794367168512Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical and Proprietary Forums Software (Again Cracked)Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YIqpaldWUj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Proprietary Forums Software (Again Cracked) | Tux MachinesJul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755098795105320961Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Splice Machine 2.0 combines HBase, Spark, NoSQL,Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 relational...and goes open source https://t.co/sASYgZ7e6VJul 18 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Splice Machine 2.0 combines HBase, Spark, NoSQL, relational...and goes open source | Tux MachinesJul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755122496622383104Jul 18 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with GlusterJul 18 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 and OpenShift https://t.co/9FjyyAke0IJul 18 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 21:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with Gluster and OpenShift | Tux MachinesJul 18 21:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/755148309812109312Jul 18 22:17
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 18 22:30
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, pingJul 18 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/755149489166508032Jul 18 23:33
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TweetTuxMachines @GUSLSanFelix   (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 23:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/755150068035051520Jul 18 23:33
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TweetTuxMachines @GUSLSanFelix   (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 23:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Jack96Uncle/status/755155115762393091 Jul 18 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jack96Uncle: @schestowitz @CraigFitzsimon1 Does this mean we will have to dim down our intellectual and humour level.Jul 18 23:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CraigFitzsimon1/status/755155435221639169Jul 18 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CraigFitzsimon1: @Jack96Uncle @schestowitz think the most salient lesson is perhaps not to take *everyone* as they may appear, sadly.Jul 18 23:37
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MinceRhttps://scontent.fomr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13765735_1754130191538978_4987325309430009812_o.jpgJul 19 00:47
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razielle_tzulolJul 19 00:48
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cubexyzyeah just realized the Sony Bravia HDTV I have also has ARM CPUJul 19 01:12
cubexyzthere's really no intel monopoly nowJul 19 01:14
cubexyzfixing my first washing machine today :)Jul 19 01:19
cubexyzor fixed ratherJul 19 01:19
cubexyzI've got quite a collection of technology from the 1990'sJul 19 01:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/755196007244263425Jul 19 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I guess that rules out twerking which would be a felony! 😀Jul 19 01:28
razielle_tzuwhat was wrong with the washing machine cubexyz?Jul 19 01:35
cubexyzit was vibrating like crazy and walking across the floorJul 19 01:35
razielle_tzuso... the drum had shifted?Jul 19 01:36
cubexyzI don't think so, but I'm not 100% sureJul 19 01:37
cubexyzI installed a damping kit and checked the springs, and releveled the feetJul 19 01:37
razielle_tzufairJul 19 01:38
cubexyzprobably not 100% fixed, but useableJul 19 01:38
cubexyzprobably needs the bearing kit tooJul 19 01:38
razielle_tzuso long as it's useable :)Jul 19 01:38
cubexyzthere's a lot of DIY repair sites now, so that's helps a lotJul 19 01:40
cubexyzs/that's/that/Jul 19 01:41
razielle_tzutrueJul 19 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755168700567658496Jul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are BackJul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h3uIyyjkdX (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are Back | Tux MachinesJul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755189156603506689Jul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 6 Desktop Linux Blunders https://t.co/FxHR1PbmaxJul 19 02:09
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schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/jurasick/status/755211384179331072Jul 19 02:26
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schestowitzHDMI to VGA, I have 3 nowJul 19 02:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 Rugged, fanless computer runs Ubuntu on HaswellJul 19 02:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WAYWLQNsuQ (hackerboards.com)Jul 19 02:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Rugged, fanless computer runs Ubuntu on HaswellJul 19 02:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755209086833229826Jul 19 02:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Demo Wireless Convergence on Bq M10 TabletJul 19 02:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755209587796668416Jul 19 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 "Machinery is a command line application for creatingJul 19 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 descriptions of Linux systems and working with them."Jul 19 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/X4suLYUNoSJul 19 02:36
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cubexyzok, this is a bit scary...Jul 19 02:38
cubexyzTony Schwartz ghostwrote "The Art of the Deal" for TrumpJul 19 02:39
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cubexyzand here's what he says about Trump:Jul 19 02:39
cubexyz"I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization."Jul 19 02:39
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schestowitzcubexyz: well, it's not that simpleJul 19 03:39
schestowitzeven if he has the nuclear codes, he then needs to compel others to agreeJul 19 03:39
schestowitzand if the grounds for attack aren't there, he won't get permissionJul 19 03:39
cubexyzwell good :)Jul 19 03:39
schestowitzmajor question is, will he get along with RussiaJul 19 03:39
schestowitzmaybeJul 19 03:40
schestowitzNot sure about ChinaJul 19 03:40
schestowitzgiving his strong antichina rhetoricJul 19 03:40
schestowitzthe main problem with Rump is, how will he treat non-European (descent) in the US?Jul 19 03:42
schestowitzOr what will his rhetoric allow the locals to do to blacks, Arabs, etc.?Jul 19 03:42
schestowitzObama was not too bad on these groundsJul 19 03:42
schestowitzalthough he was very militaristic outwards, against foreign nationsJul 19 03:42
schestowitzSo was ClintonJul 19 03:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755214498244558848Jul 19 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with GlusterJul 19 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 and OpenShift https://t.co/ABm1H5ELhw (thevarguy.com)Jul 19 03:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755230193531416576Jul 19 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are BackJul 19 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0m4iXwt5mO (freedompenguin.com)Jul 19 03:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755230337748328448Jul 19 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 6 Desktop Linux Blunders https://t.co/KnsSBt35reJul 19 03:44
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schestowitzcubexyz: "nuclear codes" is Hollywood speak anywayJul 19 03:44
schestowitzbecause of the way they frame the storyJul 19 03:44
schestowitzwith very old systemsJul 19 03:44
schestowitzlike mainframesJul 19 03:44
cubexyzmainframes are still used thoughJul 19 03:45
schestowitzit's likely some military generals who would call the shots anywayJul 19 03:45
schestowitzor tell Rump what to doJul 19 03:45
cubexyzat least the fortune 500 companies use themJul 19 03:45
schestowitz"the Russian will attack soon, yada yada, based on reliable info, so put in the code immediately"Jul 19 03:45
cubexyzand I assume NSA uses mainframes :)Jul 19 03:45
schestowitzsome missiles are not run on automated response systemsJul 19 03:45
schestowitzso they can fire with no (or minimal) human interventionJul 19 03:45
schestowitzin case of unprovoked first strikeJul 19 03:46
cubexyzhmmmmJul 19 03:46
schestowitzmissiles travel fasyJul 19 03:46
schestowitzsome US missiles in germany and maybe even Poland now would only take minutes (airbourne) to reach MoscowJul 19 03:46
schestowitzfar faster than planesJul 19 03:46
schestowitzand can go above the stratosphere for stealthJul 19 03:47
schestowitzthan drop down fast on top of targetJul 19 03:47
schestowitzand move sideways to dodge interceptors of all kindsJul 19 03:47
schestowitznuclear codes is old techJul 19 03:47
schestowitzBTWJul 19 03:47
schestowitzFrom the newsJul 19 03:47
cubexyzthat is worrisomeJul 19 03:47
schestowitzwhich may relate to Canada and N Ireland:Jul 19 03:47
schestowitz!google 13 times tridentJul 19 03:48
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJul 19 03:48
cubexyzno wonder the doomsday clock is 3 minutes to midnightJul 19 03:48
schestowitzI think the bot stopped working, maybe Google blocks themJul 19 03:48
schestowitzhttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/a-recent-report-showed-13-times-nuclear-weapons-were-almost-launched-accidentally-its-time-to-scrap-a7141296.htmlJul 19 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Nuclear weapons have almost been launched accidentally 13 times – it’s time to stop believing in the fantasy that Trident keeps us safe | Voices | The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4a ]Jul 19 03:48
schestowitzThat's from days agoJul 19 03:48
cubexyzcan you switch to a different search engine maybe?Jul 19 03:48
schestowitzlast month: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/secret-work-on-new-nuclear-warhead-reignites-trident-row-8kmwwrqq9Jul 19 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Secret work on new nuclear warhead reignites Trident row | News | The Times & The Sunday Times [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4d ]Jul 19 03:48
schestowitzcubexyz: could do, maybeJul 19 03:49
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_%28missile%29Jul 19 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trident (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4h ]Jul 19 03:49
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missileJul 19 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Intercontinental ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn4i ]Jul 19 03:49
schestowitz"The development of the world's first practical design for an ICBM, A9/10, intended for use in bombing New York and other American cities, was undertaken in Nazi Germany by the team of Wernher von Braun under Projekt Amerika. The ICBM A9/A10 rocket initially was intended to be guided by radio, but was changed to be a piloted craft after the failure of Operation Elster. The second stage of the A9/A10 rocket was tested a few times in January Jul 19 03:50
schestowitzand February 1945. The progenitor of the A9/A10 was the German V-2 rocket, also designed by von Braun and widely used at the end of World War II to bomb British and Belgian cities. All of these rockets used liquid propellants. Following the war, von Braun and other leading German scientists were relocated to the United States to work directly for the US Army through Operation Paperclip, developing the IRBMs, ICBMs, and launchers."Jul 19 03:50
schestowitz"The high speeds of the warheads make them difficult to intercept and allow for little warning, striking targets many thousands of kilometers away from the launch site (and due to the possible locations of the submarines: anywhere in the world) within approximately 30 minutes."Jul 19 03:51
schestowitz"Many authorities say that missiles also release aluminized balloons, electronic noise-makers, and other items intended to confuse interception devices and radars."Jul 19 03:51
schestowitz"Russia, the United States, China and India are the only countries currently known to possess land-based ICBMs, Israel has also tested ICBMs but is not open about actual deployment."Jul 19 03:52
schestowitz"The United States currently operates 450 ICBMs in three USAF bases. The only model deployed is LGM-30G Minuteman-III."Jul 19 03:52
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_deliveryJul 19 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn57 ]Jul 19 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nuclear weapons delivery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn59 ]Jul 19 03:53
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-30_MinutemanJul 19 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | LGM-30 Minuteman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn5a ]Jul 19 03:53
schestowitz"Approximately 17507 mph (Mach 23, or 28176 km/h, or 7 km/s) (terminal phase)"Jul 19 03:53
schestowitzAnd this one is very old techJul 19 03:53
schestowitzMach 23Jul 19 03:53
schestowitzthere's virtually no response time, other than to fire backJul 19 03:54
schestowitzif you can detect it at allJul 19 03:54
schestowitz!google us romania missle defenceJul 19 03:54
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJul 19 03:54
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-shield-idUSKCN0Y30JX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_missile_defence_systemJul 19 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. activates Romanian missile defense site, angering Russia | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/pgn5i ]Jul 19 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | NATO missile defence system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/pgn5j ]Jul 19 03:54
schestowitz"The RVs and chaff re-enter the atmosphere at high speeds and are armed in flight.'Jul 19 03:57
schestowitz7 KM per secondJul 19 03:57
schestowitzyou can barely even visualise thisJul 19 03:57
schestowitzthat's near impact timeJul 19 03:57
schestowitzwhen it accelerates towards the targetJul 19 03:57
schestowitzBush's stupid defence system, I think, strives to stop an earlier phaseJul 19 03:57
schestowitzabove atmospheric altitudeJul 19 03:58
schestowitzBut it wouldn't work as you would send up many fake onesJul 19 03:58
schestowitzlike cluster bombsJul 19 03:58
schestowitzand then overwhelm the system with targetsJul 19 03:58
schestowitzObama just signed off another trillion dollars to modernise thisJul 19 03:58
schestowitzas if it's too antiquatedJul 19 03:59
schestowitzPhase thee after just 180 seconds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Minuteman_III_MIRV_path.svgJul 19 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Minuteman III MIRV path.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 19 04:00
schestowitzand then it races like mad, downwardsJul 19 04:00
schestowitzpossible multiple warheadsJul 19 04:00
schestowitzall nuclearJul 19 04:00
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cubexyzok, a bit confusing but I got x2x working on all three computers :)Jul 19 04:04
cubexyzacross linux and bsd machines tooJul 19 04:06
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cubexyzwhat's up with msb?Jul 19 04:06
cubexyzhe hasn't said anything or responded since ...early May I thinkJul 19 04:10
schestowitzMarkBilk__: yoJul 19 04:10
schestowitzcubexyz: well, he's here 'in spirit'Jul 19 04:10
MarkBilk__I'm here!Jul 19 04:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755231698170810368Jul 19 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Mint 18-beta "Xfce" released https://t.co/RvDU2b2wWyJul 19 04:11
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cubexyzbtw here's the dirty tricks page:Jul 19 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755236211195805696Jul 19 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 GDC Europe survey shows 17% of developers plan to releaseJul 19 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux titles https://t.co/fzRdRYsIvSJul 19 04:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 04:12
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MarkBilk__Running PCLinuxOS in VirtualBox on a schmindows laptop.Jul 19 04:12
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txtJul 19 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GDC Europe survey shows 17% of developers plan to release Linux titles | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 04:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755236484224081920Jul 19 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Ballistic Overkill FPS updated, lots of changes and stillJul 19 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 works great https://t.co/DB5Kfio1L1Jul 19 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 04:13
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cubexyzI haven't adding anything to it lately thoughJul 19 04:14
cubexyzs/adding/added/Jul 19 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ballistic Overkill FPS updated, lots of changes and still works great | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 04:14
cubexyzI made this pic yesterday to help educate the younger linux people:Jul 19 04:14
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/importance-of-bsd.pngJul 19 04:15
schestowitzMarkBilk__: windows at home?Jul 19 04:15
schestowitzhopefully not some hospital or somethingJul 19 04:15
schestowitzin the US one can go bankrupt staying in a hospital just one nightJul 19 04:15
schestowitz(those living by making ends meet anyway, i.e. about 60% IIRC)Jul 19 04:16
MarkBilk__Finally back home.  But Linux desktop won't turn on.Jul 19 04:16
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MarkBilk__cubexyz: I link to your ms-dirtytricks page on my Linux page.Jul 19 04:26
cubexyzobviously the latest dirty trick was forced downloads of windows 10Jul 19 04:27
cubexyzI know it must be rather tedious to rehash all this M$ stuffJul 19 04:29
cubexyzbut it's probably good to remind people about it from time to timeJul 19 04:29
cubexyza couple of big changes I've noticed this year...Jul 19 04:31
cubexyzmost computer stores have Chromebooks and Android boxes nowJul 19 04:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755238662363836416Jul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Lost Sea action and adventure game released for Linux,Jul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 some thoughts https://t.co/ZXc5b2HGu5Jul 19 04:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lost Sea action and adventure game released for Linux, some thoughts | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755239261746634752Jul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Kingdom Rush Frontiers coming to Linux after the initialJul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows launch https://t.co/EhYawdMuJSJul 19 04:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755240094097936384Jul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Undertale now available for Linux on GOGJul 19 04:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/T75XpqX5OX (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 19 04:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Undertale now available for Linux on GOG | GamingOnLinuxJul 19 04:35
cubexyzthe games have come along nicelyJul 19 04:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755244413803048961Jul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/i2UN4clpgwJul 19 05:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755250953343922176Jul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Enter new tool for newbie: Handy LinuxJul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7JHLSLNPgP (northbridgetimes.com)Jul 19 05:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-northbridgetimes.com | Enter new tool for newbie: Handy Linux – North Bridge TimesJul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755251962426355712Jul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines                 System Shock Remaster Linux Demo Released, SystemJul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Requirements Shared https://t.co/TFBJzwwIYgJul 19 05:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (techfrag.com)Jul 19 05:05
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schestowitzMarkBilk__: cubexyz microsoft loves linux http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-releases-patch-to-block-linux-from-running-on-the-original-surface-rt-506398.shtmlJul 19 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Microsoft Releases Patch to Block Linux from Running on the Original Surface RTJul 19 05:06
schestowitzone among half a dozen new articles about itJul 19 05:06
cubexyzwe're not going to buy hardware which is hostile for our purposes...Jul 19 05:10
cubexyzI went on record in 1987 that I didn't like windows...Jul 19 05:11
cubexyzI assume that some hacker will figure it out though... eventuallyJul 19 05:17
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MarkBilk__With the uncensored worldwide communication enabled by the Web, it's only a matter of time til predatory capitalist corporate practices like this are recognized by most of Earth's population.  So Microshit is digging its own grave with such actions.Jul 19 05:22
schestowitzyes, indeedJul 19 05:27
schestowitzit's not as though they prevent many people anywayJul 19 05:27
schestowitznever met anyone who bought a Microsoft-branded crap like this... for Linux or even for WindowsJul 19 05:28
cubexyzwell there was a problem with PS3 firmware later on as wellJul 19 05:36
*TweetTuxMachines @argumento_ favourited 'System Shock Remaster Linux Demo Released, System Requirements...'Jul 19 05:38
cubexyzwintel isn't dominating any moreJul 19 05:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755256469021483008Jul 19 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Final Developer Preview before Android 7.0 Nougat beginsJul 19 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 rolling out  https://t.co/xiQYEdRsgCJul 19 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (android-developers.blogspot.co.uk)Jul 19 05:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-android-developers.blogspot.co.uk | Final Developer Preview before Android 7.0 Nougat begins rolling out | Android Developers BlogJul 19 05:38
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36242/Jul 19 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: What Kind of Commitment?: Skype Announce Brand New Linux Client, Now In AlphaJul 19 05:42
schestowitz"I don't see any other reaffirmation of their commitment to the community but to kill Linux. They haven't given up yet and they are in the extend stage. I don't believe them until they abandon Windows and use Linux. Releasing native versions of their application for Linux could be a first step."Jul 19 05:42
schestowitz"Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzI would take that line of thinking a step further. For me the issue is all about who controls my computer or device. When I use Linux then I clearly have control. I don't see Microsoft ever yielding control to their users. It will always be Microsoft in control, and what they release in the name of "loving linux" will never ever cause control to leave Microsoft's hands.Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzWhen Microsoft struck a deal to have someone put bash on Windows, Microsoft lost no control whatsoever and users were left with all the lower layers remaining closed and secret always with the hope that in Windows 11 things will somehow get better. It really doesn't matter much if Microsoft decides to offer some FOSS components, they will just be wagging the end of the tail with Microsoft staying in charge of the animal.Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzRegarding the idea of Microsoft "releasing native versions of their application for Linux", to me running closed and secret Microsoft applications in my Linux machines would compromise my control of those machines, and therefore I will never under any circumstance permit it. For the record, I removed Skype from my Linux machines the day its sale to Microsoft was announced, and I terminated my membership in LinkedIn the day their MS sale was Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzannounced.Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzI am so very pleased that running a pure-FOSS Linux system gives me full control of my machines. Nothing that MS can do will cause me to give up the control I now enjoy. Jul 19 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755260572300697600Jul 19 05:42
schestowitz"Jul 19 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Hardware Design for Linux Engineers by Grant LikelyJul 19 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Vxa04kXjse (www.linux.com)Jul 19 05:42
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schestowitz"Jul 19 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hardware Design for Linux Engineers by Grant Likely | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJul 19 05:42
schestowitzThere will be no Windows 11. Their current strategy is to make Windows 10 a rolling release. So, currently Windows 10 is supposed to be the last Windows version ever. (We'll see how long marketing can tolerate that.)Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzBusiness features have been relegated to Windows 10 Enterprise which will cost $7/month/PC.Jul 19 05:42
schestowitzWindows Server 2016 licenses are also transitioning into subscriptions. Jul 19 05:43
schestowitz'Jul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261585573093376Jul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/2UpPAO2WLjJul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 05:43
schestowitz"So, what percentage of the desktop market is Linux again? Why would Microsoft really be releasing a beta for 1-2% of the market?"Jul 19 05:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 05:43
schestowitz"Darn right! Nothing other than M$'s bad old EEE maybe disguised for a spell in sheep's clothing, but still thrown right back at you/us.'Jul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261586378403841Jul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Enter new tool for newbie: Handy LinuxJul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DcR3CLk78H (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 05:43
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enter new tool for newbie: Handy Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 05:43
cubexyzexcept they aren't running a "pure foss machine" Jul 19 05:44
cubexyzI only have one computer that I can say is "pure foss"Jul 19 05:44
cubexyzdid they compile their own firmware? no?Jul 19 05:44
cubexyznot pure fossJul 19 05:44
cubexyzand the BIOS creators are largely in the M$ campJul 19 05:46
cubexyzor if you prefer... the UEFI makers are in M$'s camp even more than beforeJul 19 05:47
cubexyzSurface isn't even on the radarJul 19 05:50
cubexyzhere's my boot screen for my foss-box:Jul 19 05:53
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bootsplash.jpgJul 19 05:53
cubexyzit's not so much that you write all your own firmware.. that's extremely hardJul 19 05:55
cubexyzbut you should be able to compile/assemble itJul 19 05:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261588022566912Jul 19 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Qt WebBrowser 1.0 https://t.co/YO6MRcnwUhJul 19 07:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755261588844589056Jul 19 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel/Graphics https://t.co/P7VthdOUkXJul 19 07:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel/Graphics | Tux MachinesJul 19 07:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755280879027625984Jul 19 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Breeze everywhere https://t.co/nAJWxMvM3pJul 19 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (timotheegiet.com)Jul 19 07:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755281705318150144Jul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it getsJul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sDawgvNmBI (www.dedoimedo.com)Jul 19 07:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it getJul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755285539008417792Jul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Neon OS, a review https://t.co/6IEMsb13b2Jul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.reddit.com)Jul 19 07:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | KDE Neon OS, a review : linuxJul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755285882551304192Jul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Ten Steps to Linux Survival https://t.co/alzTnyharBJul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.oreilly.com) available as free PDF downloadJul 19 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/npHMGLsBYF (www.oreilly.com)Jul 19 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oreilly.com | Ten Steps to Linux Survival - O'Reilly MediaJul 19 07:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755288901238095872Jul 19 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 iOS 10 vs. Android Nougat: New Features & TweaksJul 19 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Compared, https://t.co/Z0J1RlDWh9Jul 19 09:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knowyourmobile.com | iOS 10 vs. Android Nougat: New Features & Tweaks Compared | Know Your MobileJul 19 09:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317918590644224Jul 19 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/RxhZX3K8xyJul 19 09:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesJul 19 09:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317919467180032Jul 19 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it getsJul 19 09:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xaRfeK3Yyz (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 09:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Xfce - As good as it gets | Tux MachinesJul 19 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/1pWkxGh3HgJul 19 11:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755317921052700672Jul 19 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/74tWPCvtJbJul 19 11:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 19 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755354349149224960Jul 19 11:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Korora 22 Is About to Reach EOL https://t.co/eCUMvTisVHJul 19 11:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (kororaproject.org)Jul 19 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva 3.0 Release Candidate 1Jul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KxEMl3ELV3 (sourceforge.net)Jul 19 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMandriva Lx - Browse /3.0/RC at SourceForge.netJul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755354444687110144Jul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 mageia has a wallpaper chosen https://t.co/lJccZbL3XnJul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.mageia.org)Jul 19 12:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | And the winner is…. | Mageia Blog (English)Jul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362240279175168Jul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/oDbU4Ge8nSJul 19 12:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362240996356096Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/j07XTWXBxmJul 19 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362241675874304Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/N7cdPlpfLOJul 19 12:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362242426613760Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/iwHiZU1NpLJul 19 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362243718422528Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Respinning Linux https://t.co/xPyx8DjO9AJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Respinning Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755363041659785216Jul 19 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera BuyoutJul 19 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eNg6ft9acY (techrights.org)Jul 19 13:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera Buyout https://t.co/eNg6ft9acY'Jul 19 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera Buyout | TechrightsJul 19 13:09
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/BU6OvJul 19 13:59
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/cxReFox.pngJul 19 14:10
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cubexyzjust sad:Jul 19 15:45
cubexyzhttp://modernfarmer.com/2016/07/right-to-repair/Jul 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-modernfarmer.com | Farmers Demand Right to Fix Their Own Dang Tractors - Modern FarmerJul 19 15:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755385029807648769Jul 19 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with aJul 19 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 shockingly low $99 price https://t.co/UAeY4doePGJul 19 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with a shockingly low $99 price | Tux MachinesJul 19 16:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755425035368693760Jul 19 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Nautilus Is Adding Native Archive ExtractionJul 19 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/B4la6ZDdNl (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 19 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Nautilus Is Adding Native Archive Extraction - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 19 16:33
razielle_tzuugh it's so hot i've only just rolled out of bedJul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755425257176129537Jul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 The Meizu MX6 Made Official, Ubuntu Edition ‘Coming Soon’Jul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hnGxduIB7E (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 19 16:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | The Meizu MX6 Made Official, Ubuntu Edition 'Coming Soon' - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755426255361671169Jul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Respinning Linux https://t.co/bJ1faj74PQ (fossforce.com)Jul 19 16:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Respinning Linux | FOSS ForceJul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755426402879537153Jul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with aJul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 shockingly low $99 price https://t.co/xRa5k6423jJul 19 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com)Jul 19 16:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | ZTE ZMAX PRO is a premium Android smartphone with a shockingly low $99 priceJul 19 16:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755427049402146816Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3VSPT1AsVS (www.zdnet.com)Jul 19 17:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-​The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13 | ZDNetJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755427466966102016Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands-on with the Linux-ready Dell XPS 13 DeveloperJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 EditionJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/27Uprn4ewi (opensource.com)Jul 19 17:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-on with the Linux-ready Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition | Opensource.comJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755432317510782977Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LThacECOxC (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13 | Tux MachinesJul 19 17:01
MinceRdHell crap againJul 19 17:12
razielle_tzuughJul 19 17:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755432318475472896Jul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/BkR3I2P6OuJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454395840466944Jul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Hardware https://t.co/hIo7s90iAxJul 19 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454396553498624Jul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Big Data/Hadoop https://t.co/HSaF1ffGJpJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454397279117312Jul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! https://t.co/vQCyjiASjBJul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454398000529408Jul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Can you name these Linux distributions?Jul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bc1jvHlmPF (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can you name these Linux distributions? | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:56
*TweetTuxMachines @icedov favourited 'Open Hardware https://t.co/hIo7s90iAx'Jul 19 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755498542974676994Jul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro nowJul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 available -- 32-bit ISO dead https://t.co/p1SvOMjqMXJul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro now available -- 32-bit ISO dead | Tux MachinesJul 19 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755519978741207040Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry PiJul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 clone https://t.co/AuoIaI3bkz (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry Pi clone | Tux MachinesJul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755519979533979648Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 How To Upgrade to Linux Mint 18 https://t.co/nDwcA7KT61Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Upgrade to Linux Mint 18 | Tux MachinesJul 19 23:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755559487843491841Jul 20 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! https://t.co/Orcs32YmhiJul 20 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.openmandriva.org) https://t.co/3DKPEFZWZlJul 20 01:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 01:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.openmandriva.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! » OMA blogJul 20 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 Released - PhoronixJul 20 01:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755559675068833792Jul 20 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Can you name these Linux distributions?Jul 20 01:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nvaHqA8fu8 (www.computerworld.com)Jul 20 01:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can you name these Linux distributions? | ComputerworldJul 20 01:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755560015445057536Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro nowJul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 available -- 32-bit ISO dead https://t.co/RjiWY7yIm5Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (betanews.com)Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro now available -- 32-bit ISO deadJul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755560139323764736Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry PiJul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 clone https://t.co/grcK82eFii (hackerboards.com)Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Coin-sized COM could be world's smallest Raspberry Pi cloneJul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755561184317800448Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview QuestionsJul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD (fossbytes.com)Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions Jul 20 01:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755562120201248773Jul 20 01:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Cossacks 3 release date announced, Linux release delayedJul 20 01:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KRKjPa7QCd (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:44
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cossacks 3 release date announced, Linux release delayed | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755562278368534528Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Virtual Programming tease the Overlord Linux port in aJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 new video https://t.co/as1DIlTZ0K (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virtual Programming tease the Overlord Linux port in a new video | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755563196359053312Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux version of VIDEOBALL being blocked by publisher,Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 developer comments on it https://t.co/3LYdQYpO2vJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux version of VIDEOBALL being blocked by publisher, developer comments on it | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755563561578094592Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux demo of the System Shock remake is now available onJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 GOG https://t.co/vj60CEK0qX (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux demo of the System Shock remake is now available on GOG | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755563838402101248Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 95 Patches Ready The Intel Mesa Driver For OpenGL 4 OnJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Haswell https://t.co/unV3GjGTSb (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-95 Patches Ready The Intel Mesa Driver For OpenGL 4 On Haswell - PhoronixJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755564018769813504Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Offers Great Performance On LinuxJul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/lPvb4qL0hF (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 01:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Offers Great Performance On Linux - PhoronixJul 20 01:45
*TweetTuxMachines @VSXu favourited '95 Patches Ready The Intel Mesa Driver For...'Jul 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755564725497462786Jul 20 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenTomb is an open source game engine for Tomb RaiderJul 20 01:50
TweetTuxMachines                 1-5 https://t.co/Z2QYdxE1ke (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:50
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenTomb is an open source game engine for Tomb Raider 1-5 | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755565015302803466Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 The programmer of Antraxx, a massively multiplayer mechJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 shooter says Linux is a definite optionJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6a6FMBqAEK (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The programmer of Antraxx, a massively multiplayer mech shooter says Linux is a definite option | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755565160023134208Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Rogue Islands, a fast-paced shooter set in a proceduralJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 fantasy world from Big Fat Alien will come to LinuxJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a3VQxxQ8dz (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rogue Islands, a fast-paced shooter set in a procedural fantasy world from Big Fat Alien will come to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755567081949696002Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 “Microsoft broke my father’s computer: it made him updateJul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 to Windows 10” https://t.co/jLJ1jhQ394Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (pavelmachek.livejournal.com) #vista10Jul 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Jul 20 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pavelmachek.livejournal.com | Google play store playing with GPS?: pavelmachekJul 20 01:58
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - TechrightsJul 20 01:58
cubexyzlook, microsoft can't force anything on you if you don't run windowsJul 20 02:02
cubexyzbtw openbsd forces nothing Jul 20 02:04
cubexyzeverything is pulled not pushedJul 20 02:04
cubexyzit doesn't even install X by defaultJul 20 02:05
cubexyzin 1994 installing Minix or Linux or some alternative OS was kind of difficultJul 20 02:10
cubexyzok openbsd will require some thinking, no question...Jul 20 02:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755567289018310656Jul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines                 "openSUSE members are mentoring seven students who allJul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines                 passed their mid-term evaluation last week."Jul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nS9LX3LZ3J (news.opensuse.org)Jul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsJul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755568285693992960Jul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE helps resellers extend software benefits to theJul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines                 cloud, giving customers more flexibility with SUSEJul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines                 solutions https://t.co/CIxiIiC55w (sdtimes.com)Jul 20 02:16
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | SUSE helps resellers extend software benefits to the cloud, giving customers more flexibility with SUSE solutions - SD TimesJul 20 02:16
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cubexyzoh and the constant forced win10 updates on laptops? ha... it's just stupidity if you're on the batteryJul 20 02:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755571886457626624Jul 20 02:36
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    “Microsoft broke my father’s computer: it made him updateJul 20 02:36
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    to Windows 10” https://t.co/jLJ1jhQ394Jul 20 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (pavelmachek.livejournal.com) #vista10Jul 20 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uh0QkLYUv8 (techrights.org)Jul 20 02:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577154436345856Jul 20 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics https://t.co/f7Anjqv5jXJul 20 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux MachinesJul 20 02:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577155812065281Jul 20 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/CCOR9En61MJul 20 02:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 02:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 20 02:37
cubexyzwine can't run on non-x86 CPU right?Jul 20 02:42
cubexyzI would think it doesn'tJul 20 02:43
cubexyzalso wine translates windows calls to X11, so no wine on androidJul 20 02:44
cubexyzok, an important part of BSD history...Jul 20 02:49
cubexyzeverything we use now, OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD etc, is all derived from 4.4BSD which was released in 1994Jul 20 02:49
cubexyzthere are some interesting backports to study... 2.11BSD for example is a backport of 4.3BSD to PDP-11 archJul 20 02:51
cubexyzok, so I think 4.3BSD merits additional study...Jul 20 02:58
cubexyzer, 4.4BSD rather :)Jul 20 02:59
cubexyzexcuse the slow link...Jul 20 02:59
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/design-and-implementation-of-4.4bsd.pdfJul 20 03:00
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Jul 20 03:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7629037Jul 20 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stanleytoothbrush@shrekislove.us reshared: GOP Leans In To Misogyny During Convention http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/07/19/3799867/rnc-war-on-women-hillary-clinton/ "[Clinton] comes off as a bitch"Jul 20 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thinkprogress.org | GOP Leans In To Misogyny During Convention | ThinkProgressJul 20 03:26
schestowitz"Disgusting. Love the irony of the highlighted quote, tho."Jul 20 03:26
schestowitzI guess some people don't know what bitch meansJul 20 03:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577157997297664Jul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/QCPN6biXQlJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 03:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577157175291904Jul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 The Importance of Following Community-Oriented PrinciplesJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 in GPL Enforcement Work https://t.co/ELgJXx5UGWJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Importance of Following Community-Oriented Principles in GPL Enforcement Work | Tux MachinesJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755577158936829952Jul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/xMsl10vZ6KJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJul 20 03:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755592609507213312Jul 20 03:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 7.0 now shows if an APK was installed from theJul 20 03:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Play Store or another source https://t.co/5mMSe42vZcJul 20 03:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jul 20 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android 7.0 now shows if an APK was installed from the Play Store or another sourceJul 20 03:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755592947354181632Jul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 [Update: HSBC and BBVA] Android Pay expands to 19 moreJul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 local banks and credit unions https://t.co/f0cokWttBTJul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jul 20 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | [Update: HSBC and BBVA] Android Pay expands to 19 more local banks and credit unionsJul 20 03:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755594333181599744Jul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia Android Nougat Smartphones With Snapdragon 820, 2KJul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Displays Leaked https://t.co/nmNRzEPxF7Jul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (gadgets.ndtv.com)Jul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Nokia Android Nougat Smartphones With Snapdragon 820, 2K Displays Leaked | NDTV Gadgets360.comJul 20 03:49
*TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions Jul 20 03:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/755595287817777152Jul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview QuestionsJul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD (fossbytes.com)Jul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755595839544913920Jul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Croatia's Combis becomes RedHat partnerJul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LzNmwCUI7G (www.telecompaper.com)Jul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Croatia's Combis becomes RedHat partner - TelecompaperJul 20 03:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755596536021716992Jul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Motorola has become the Polaroid of AndroidJul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bZktUu0qwk (www.computerworld.com)Jul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Motorola has become the Polaroid of Android | ComputerworldJul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755596562965729281Jul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/DKcqeNt7E8Jul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 03:57
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesJul 20 03:57
*TweetTuxMachines @RemoteWorkingCo favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 04:49
*TweetTuxMachines @os_magazine favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 04:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/os_magazine/status/755610516333223940Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview QuestionsJul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines @os_magazine    https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD (fossbytes.com)Jul 20 05:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @Lost_Shadows2 favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614731453419520Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/KqEyXsBjnCJul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614732803903488Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/LHcV6yXtz3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesJul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614733496049664Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/O7QTIlwNv8Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 05:06
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 20 05:06
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cubedroidstrange interface on this irc clientJul 20 06:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755614734213197824Jul 20 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4iUCzthzBjJul 20 08:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 08:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 20 08:37
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*TweetTuxMachines @anushya_devi favourited 'SUSE helps resellers extend software benefits to the...'Jul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755670591299022848Jul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.18.4Jul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Released With XWayland / GLAMOR / ModesettingJul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements https://t.co/SPW4ctpOdJ (www.phoronix.com)Jul 20 09:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org Server 1.18.4 Released With XWayland / GLAMOR / Modesetting Improvements - PhoronixJul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755670953934422016Jul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 libinput is done  https://t.co/HwliUrbJadJul 20 09:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (who-t.blogspot.com)Jul 20 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-who-t.blogspot.com | Who-T: libinput is doneJul 20 09:34
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/755678938232487936Jul 20 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: 'World’s saddest polar bear' exhibited in Chinese shopping centre - https://t.co/M4qIacTtQz disgraceful animal abuse in #chinaJul 20 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | 'World’s saddest polar bear' exhibited in Chinese shopping centre | World news | The GuardianJul 20 11:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755705993636540416Jul 20 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody not a problem just in China https://t.co/KrGJUKMa4UJul 20 11:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @DelgerSn favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions Jul 20 11:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755710213152530432Jul 20 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/6qHgHTcC4wJul 20 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 11:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 20 11:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755711628478443520Jul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/6qHgHTcC4wJul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 12:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755712786743910400Jul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora's answer to Snap Packages only begs more questionsJul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oc3piNVw99 (www.techrepublic.com)Jul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora's answer to Snap Packages only begs more questions - TechRepublicJul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755721689833541632Jul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Four Alternatives to Raspbian and Ubuntu MATEJul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZVomTMCCHC (fossforce.com)Jul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Four Alternatives to Raspbian and Ubuntu MATE | FOSS ForceJul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755722006142840833Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 $5 Linux-equipped Omega2 IoT module launches onJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Kickstarter https://t.co/5ZqOhMRN6u (hackerboards.com)Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $5 Linux-equipped Omega2 IoT module launches on KickstarterJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755722919137972225Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Tumbleweed updates bash, KDE, new Kernel coming soonJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hujzqwFVal (news.opensuse.org)Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755724143690153984Jul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Looks like Stardew Valley is starting to gear up for theJul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux release https://t.co/SptdvVGhN2Jul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looks like Stardew Valley is starting to gear up for the Linux release | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755724339492823040Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Blossom Tales, a beautiful looking 2D Zelda-like actionJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 RPG is heading to Linux https://t.co/aKePD9pypbJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 12:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blossom Tales, a beautiful looking 2D Zelda-like action RPG is heading to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 12:29
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/bill-gates-worth-by-year.txtJul 20 15:44
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razielle_tzucubexyz: that looks about rightJul 20 16:50
cubexyzhuge increase from 1990 to 1999Jul 20 16:54
cubexyzinteresting that he sold most of his stockJul 20 16:55
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 16:55
cubexyzeverything kind of turned out in a sub-optimal fashion after 1999, at least from my point of viewJul 20 16:57
cubexyzredhat stock spiked way up on dec. 10, 1999Jul 20 16:57
cubexyzwent all the way down to $3.12 per share on Sept, 10th 2001Jul 20 16:58
cubexyzit was $136 during the high, when microsoft was supposed to be broken upJul 20 16:59
cubexyz1999... a pivotal year in hindsight :)Jul 20 17:01
razielle_tzujust a bitJul 20 17:01
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 20 22:52
razielle_tzuo/Jul 20 23:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJul 20 23:02
razielle_tzuhow are you?Jul 20 23:02
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks Ubuntu convergence is starting to look more exciting now going by two videos that seen recentlyJul 20 23:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, a bit hmm, wanting to organise an event, but the venue I want hasn't got back to me yet, yes an event for Linux Presentation DayJul 20 23:03
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich means not that much time to organise, but can be doable Jul 20 23:03
razielle_tzufairJul 20 23:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, might have to get some kind of funding or sponsership to cover an event cost though hmmJul 20 23:04
razielle_tzushould be doable thoughJul 20 23:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also Ubuntu convergence is looking more interesting now,  like I should buy the Microsoft display adapter soonJul 20 23:04
razielle_tzublehJul 20 23:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Ubuntu over the air update there's an offical release delayed to Wednesday next weekJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDthat has the thingJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDin itJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDfor the tabletJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it looks good via  the video I sawJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat bluetooth mouse would you buyJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDI got a cheap toner one from aamzon, but that didn't seem to workJul 20 23:05
razielle_tzui'm not fussed, it's not something that interests me and with the way canonical are going i'm going to be moving on from a ubuntu-based distro to maybe archJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDI am not so keen on the colours etc of the logitech ones I seen and other ones,  so hmmJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh your one ofthoseJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HD:DJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu uh, I am going Arch!Jul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's quite common thatJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDin the past few years or soJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople going from Ubuntu to Arch for some raeason, but why Arch ?Jul 20 23:06
razielle_tzui'm using mint atm but i prefer arch anyway, i just wanted to make sure my hardware was still stable under linux firstJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDso you tested Mint h ehJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDyes Arch is more doing things yourself I guessJul 20 23:07
razielle_tzuwell yeah, it has almost everything i'd need to test pre-installedJul 20 23:07
razielle_tzueverything works so i'll be moving later in the weekJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  am hoping to be able to go to my LUG meeting on Saturday, and be like, and with hte other guy who's interestedJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDbe likeJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDyes an eventJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDand already got a  venue reallyJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDor pretty muchJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HD,but looking like things may not go that way hmmJul 20 23:08
razielle_tzui need to set a spare SD card up for fridayJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, then I can probably organise a better event myself in like three months, than what we had before, make sure marketing is done right etcJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDit seems they actsually think the remaster idea was a wast of time now as well at least one of them :dJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDthey really wanted that in 2013/14Jul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, my distro, and GNOME as well got out voted by them!Jul 20 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat I wantedJul 20 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HDit basically became their event, but I still helped out with getting freebies Jul 20 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and there were a load of issues on the marekting/promotion site, so didn't get many of the target audiance, but quite a few geeks yesJul 20 23:10
razielle_tzuthat can happenJul 20 23:10
razielle_tzuit takes a LOT of market research to get that kind of thing rightJul 20 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HDif I felt it was more my event still I would have probably mentioend promotion/maretting more,  if things had been done and what etcJul 20 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HDbut as I said it  mostly wasn't really my event in the end as well soJul 20 23:11
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HDnow former organiseers or one or two in parituclar will be reluctent to organise another eventJul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDespeically in much less time as well I thinkJul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDabout three months will be seen as being too little time!Jul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but  one or two of them I think would be eaiser not to work with like did before really ass well, or not as muchJul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDif they want to help out on the day, or a bit here and there that would be okJul 20 23:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I hope can have a venue sorted soon, then really can pllan an event even more properly than already did, and even have something a bit bigger then last time I expect, get some people to come and help out with stands or something from esle where even I guess possibly :)Jul 20 23:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, my idea is to have Creative Commons stuff as wellJul 20 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HDget general public interested in that :)Jul 20 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah no venue, no event, hmmJul 20 23:15
SebthreeBQM10HDevents are fun thoughJul 20 23:15
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, have you organisd some events if so what?Jul 20 23:16
razielle_tzuthe usual ones i do are small demo classes for the pi (which i'm doing on friday) or linux as an alternative to windows with a variety of distros on show so people can find the one that suits them instead of trying to convince people to pick one in particularJul 20 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yes that's the kind of stuff I want for another eventJul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDwehre do you do your classes etc?Jul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes you did say something before about something on FridaysJul 20 23:21
razielle_tzuyeah i run a computer club most friday morningsJul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDif I order things from Amazon and not with a prime membership tonightJul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDI guess may even have the parcel by Wednesday next week when the update is :DJul 20 23:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI could buy a Micrsooft dispaly adapter directly from Microsoft though, but I want to buy the white k480 bluetooh kebyoard as well, got the black on amazon, want to buy some kind of bluetooth mouse to that actsaully, works and a track pad thingJul 20 23:22
razielle_tzui guess that could be trueJul 20 23:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI got an expensive August really as wellJul 20 23:22
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I think I am meant to pre order something then some time in August by latest really, that I didn't have the money to crowd fund at the timeJul 20 23:23
SebthreeBQM10HDfor a bit less as wellJul 20 23:23
SebthreeBQM10HDplus there's something else I want to buy that again didn't have money to crowd fund, but can buy what will be theretial versibonJul 20 23:23
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I am not sure, but I have a feeling my Windows 8.1  install USB,  offical one that I actsually bought for the HP lap top,  may have gotton thrown away, because of someone here!Jul 20 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is annoying if so, since that cost like 30 poundsJul 20 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HDI did this sily mcafee thing to, because there was a way to get it a load cheaper for a year ortwo, I know Macafee is not goodJul 20 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I want to re install everything on my hp lap top, and I belive malware may be in the Windows install, since I had installed a program from well pretty much a arnaodm site really it turns out, and maybe not even the offical one etcJul 20 23:25
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I wanted to try and delete some stuff from ipad air in a more secure wayJul 20 23:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you know Windows, doesnt' take much to get infected by something etc!Jul 20 23:25
razielle_tzuso you use iexplorer for that if itunes won't helpJul 20 23:25
razielle_tzuand i know windows is easy to infectJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that was before, I still have an issue with the apple account to, trying to get that re set, oh if only I had done the password reset the first itme roundJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDbut only had three hours and that expiredJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen they sent me the thingJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, in fact that ipaid air is likely to have malware on it!Jul 20 23:26
razielle_tzureally?Jul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDsince when I was using it, it hadn't been updated since issues,  etc,  and then had been on certain sites with it etcJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDyes not updated for a long timeJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, when your browser comes up a bit oddly, or on certain sites Jul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDand things like thatJul 20 23:27
razielle_tzulolJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDit basically says, that yep may have some sort of malware on thereJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, there was a issue with the account or something, can't quite remember now why the updates hadn't been installed!Jul 20 23:28
SebthreeBQM10HDnot used for months as wellJul 20 23:28
SebthreeBQM10HDand it had also broken so soeone fixed upJul 20 23:28
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, why the lol ?Jul 20 23:29
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I wantd to do  factory re set with it, but unless I can get into the apple accountJul 20 23:29
SebthreeBQM10HDI would lose access to that!Jul 20 23:29
razielle_tzubecause almost everyone i know touts the safety and security of ipads over android stuff but ALWAYS come to me with an infection to clean for themJul 20 23:29
SebthreeBQM10HDif can't re set the apple acocunt password and gain access to it  the usaul wayJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDit's just saved on the ipad the detailsJul 20 23:30
razielle_tzuno one ever brings android stuff to me for cleaning, just flashing new custom romsJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh right I seeJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand Andorid I don't think is particualry secureJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I mean more the app situationJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand I was saying to someone about that earlier on todayJul 20 23:30
razielle_tzuit's no more or less secure than iOSJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut basically every app or pretty much, wants access to your photos, and your vidoes etcJul 20 23:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand if you don't allow them access to pretty much everything, then well that app probably doesn' workJul 20 23:31
razielle_tzui'm selective with my apps... so it's just media players and e-book readers on my phone, they don't want any of that accessJul 20 23:31
SebthreeBQM10HDit wasnts access to the cam and micirphone etc toJul 20 23:31
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can be selective, but as I put most apps want access to pretty much everything, so much for security from apps thenJul 20 23:32
razielle_tzuoh apart from snapchat and instagram but i don't mind them having the access they doJul 20 23:32
SebthreeBQM10HDtht's something that bothered me about Andoid to begin with!Jul 20 23:32
razielle_tzuit's mostly because devs can't code without full hardware access any moreJul 20 23:32
SebthreeBQM10HDthe other thing that sucks hwen it comes to Android apps, and that I noticed pretty much straight away when first using Android, and being all used to Desktop Linuxx already as well so no adverts basicallyJul 20 23:32
SebthreeBQM10HDyep lots of adverts when it comes to Android apps in generalJul 20 23:32
razielle_tzulol, only for certain apps that usually have a full ad-free version too or it's from a new studio without the capital to do ad-free stuff yetJul 20 23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDalso Androdi uh, to many apps, it's frgamented I guess you could say ascaully, people say Linux is fragmented sinc the amount of distros, but no I think that's gnerally good it's choiceJul 20 23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDbut Anroid uhJul 20 23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDso many apps that its hard to find the good onesJul 20 23:33
razielle_tzuplus google inject ads to raise revenue for themselves and the app studioJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I guess what you said then, but there we go then, lots of appsJul 20 23:34
razielle_tzuthat's another reason for the increase in accessJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDadvertsJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDI meant to put thereJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDadverts all over uhJul 20 23:34
razielle_tzui get no adverts in ANY of my apps that are bought in fullJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that's standrd if you buy an appJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDno advertJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HD,but I was on about free apps yesJul 20 23:35
razielle_tzuhewll i don't get any in snapchat or instagram eitherJul 20 23:35
razielle_tzu*hellJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDalso Ubuntu Touch doesn't have that issue of apps wanting access to like everything, as far as I knowJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDsame for other Linux based ones like Salifish OSJul 20 23:35
razielle_tzucool reader, duolingo, imgur, plague inc., smart audiobooks... these are free apps i have with no advertsJul 20 23:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes my ipaid is probably infected knew that for monthsJul 20 23:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor well something on it that makes the browser go a bit funny etc at times as I was sayingJul 20 23:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, as for the account issues, no I can't just do a normal account password reset, and hae the email for that, and re set from there!Jul 20 23:37
razielle_tzuso set a new one up and free it that way?Jul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really it's not so much re setting the password, it's more finding out what the password is!Jul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDI don't know what it is for the accountJul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDit's saved on the ipad thoughJul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDas the accountJul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDbut the account will have some data  or something in it that I would want I thinkJul 20 23:38
razielle_tzuthen for now you're screwedJul 20 23:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, if an account is saved on the ipad with the password, and can log into the accountJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDI am on about the cloud accountJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDthe icloud account the apple accountJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDI can log into the ipad itselfJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDbut if the icloud account is saved on there with it's password, there is surely some way to get the password off the ipad for it?Jul 20 23:39
razielle_tzuthen explain what you mean clearer, you are barely making sense tonight tbhJul 20 23:39
razielle_tzuthere might be but i can't think of a way right nowJul 20 23:40
SebthreeBQM10HDonce I contacted apple, and they were like ok you'll get a passwrod re set email in 24 hours, then you got three hours to re set the password, and that email came, but I didn't re set the passoword in time in the three hours, and every other time I tried that again for them to send issues didn't happenJul 20 23:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I want to know what my icloud/apple account password is,  or if not that, be able to re set it at leastJul 20 23:40
SebthreeBQM10HDI can log into the account that's being used on the ipad, where there is the icloud/apple account set up on itJul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDto sync or whatever it doesJul 20 23:41
razielle_tzuif you can log in to icloud on the ipad can't you change it on there?Jul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDnot from what I have seenJul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDalso I don't know the passwordJul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really what I would want to do is  sort the account out, then factory re set as wellJul 20 23:42
SebthreeBQM10HDeven more so now, as someone who suspects malware as wellJul 20 23:42
razielle_tzui don't know iOS enough to be able to help you with thisJul 20 23:42
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks ok but she undersands nowJul 20 23:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah I gave in last year in Brussels at the air port actsually on way backJul 20 23:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, since ok Ipaid Air 2 was out, but I could buy the first ipaid air for like 150 or so pounds cheaper than the at that time UK priceJul 20 23:43
SebthreeBQM10HDapparnatly cheaper than some shiop in Belgium and such to, they were having a laugh it seems at that shop to that know how,  how many ipads they had sold that week etcJul 20 23:44
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, at first I was like hmm,  Ipaid not sure really,  since well partly since things MinceR had put actsaully about how bad Apple is etcJul 20 23:44
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I did give in after being there for longer, since really I wanted to play around with iOS a part ofme, I hadn't done that before soJul 20 23:44
SebthreeBQM10HDthen it was fun to be back also, and tell MinceR how I had bought a Apple device h eh h eh,  to troll him a bit with that h eh he h, well troll or tease whateverJul 20 23:45
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, MinceR basically hates or strongly dislikes AppleJul 20 23:45
razielle_tzui got a first gen ipad a few months ago to learn a few things and tbh i wish i hadn't. it's that old that nothing is supported any more and i don't like the feel of the os at allJul 20 23:45
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich version of ios ?Jul 20 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDand do you really mean first gen, so which ipad?Jul 20 23:46
razielle_tzuyes i mean first gen, it's still on iOS 5.somethingJul 20 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDthe ipad air was fine,  they kept it up to date as well, but I wasn't installing the updates since hmm,  account issues,  and wanting to use that version of ios, and wanting to eventauly factory re set, and I guess some other reason, I woudl normaly install updats for an os!Jul 20 23:46
razielle_tzui would tell you exactly but i can't remember where i put itJul 20 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I got ios 7 or something on that ipad airJul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDyou don't like the os why?Jul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDthe one I seen is quite basic, I mean it looks nice and fancy but that's just graphics realyJul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDit's more like a basic Linux distro you could say by defaultJul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDI hadn't installed any apps on that iapd as well in fact as wll because of some reason!Jul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I think ios is more about the apps, installing apps  and then it becomes betterJul 20 23:48
razielle_tzui find it clunky and too heavy on the graphics instead of functionalityJul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDtoo heavey and clunky on graphics why?Jul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDI think people like apple since well it's blingeyJul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDand also it runs better than WindowsJul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDand remember these are peopel who haven't expereinced or knownigly experiencd Linux like usJul 20 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDI don't mean Androdi, I mean Desktop Linux,  and even Linux based mobile osesJul 20 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDAndroid has Linux in it, but is it's own thing and tighed to google as well in certain ways,  there's no Linux in the name as well etcJul 20 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus we know as software freedom people, that Apple well restricts peoples freedom etcJul 20 23:50
razielle_tzui've never been a fan of apple products, this just kinda sealed the deal for me not using them by choice ever again tbhJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDlock them in in certian ways as well or try toJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Ipad Airwas bought cheapJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I did use it for a few months and like for everythingJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDsince net book issuesJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDand so I aws aiting to buy another lap top, to have one bought, but then it was like what,  and so i settled on a hp lap top with a touch screen, but had to wait for that to be in stock as wellJul 20 23:51
razielle_tzui've let that and my android tablet run flat and just not bothered charging them againJul 20 23:51
razielle_tzumy laptops are mostly charged and in useJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDwhilst I had the ipad airJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDI was waiting for  Jolla tablet as wellJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDyes from the former NOkia people,  who started Salifsih OS etcJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDsince got  nice Jolla phone that should also srot out gain how I want it and do more with really, they had a crowd fudning campagain for a talet with an OS update as wel, the OS update came, but then issues  with an investero, and so most of us have been re funded insteadJul 20 23:52
SebthreeBQM10HDwell partly re funded, there will be  second half update re fund coming toJul 20 23:52
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I didn't have anything bluetooth with the ipaid,  but I am quite happy using mostly an Ubuntu tablet nad this lovely k480Jul 20 23:52
razielle_tzuyeah, you've said... constantly in factJul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah if I am going to do Virualbox for exmple which I do at times, I'll need a computer for that a real computer!Jul 20 23:53
razielle_tzuhow will you cope not using just a tablet? :PJul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes I haveJul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how would you cope being a guy for a day :D ?Jul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDyou probably are quite guy like in certain ways already though h e hJul 20 23:54
razielle_tzulolJul 20 23:54
razielle_tzucubexyz: should i finally tell him or just leave it?Jul 20 23:54
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, what that you were a guy  all  along pretending to be a girl :d ?Jul 20 23:55
razielle_tzunopeJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDanyway Jul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDI do think thatJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu/Canonical are onto something with the whole convergence idaJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDideaJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDeven Microsoft to some extent with contium, but that's just the most expensive phone really, and that just basically puts it onto a bigger screenJul 20 23:56
SebthreeBQM10HDplus unlike with Ubuntu, you actusally need a sperate device so the phone can do continum as wellJul 20 23:56
razielle_tzumicrosoft want to keep each device separate but have similar/the same interface, ubuntu want you to choose which device to work on at any time withoout being restrictedJul 20 23:57
SebthreeBQM10HDand I think generally by home users/ consumers,  that yes for most of them, lap tops and desktops are being used much less, and that's mostly since smart phones, but also since ipad's and other tablets for people with themJul 20 23:58
razielle_tzupeople i know personally literally just use their tablet or phone while out and about. at home and they're straight back on a laptop or desktop to do thingsJul 20 23:58
SebthreeBQM10HDso  the idea of having  tablet as a screen, connected to a bluetooh keyboard and mouse etc, may catch up on more with the generl public as time goes on, yep really turning it into a lap top basically, espeicaly with things like ubuntu convergence and microsoft continumJul 20 23:58
SebthreeBQM10HDwell your probably not going  to type a load of documents on a smalll screen smart phone for example, unless it's connected to a bigger screenJul 20 23:59
razielle_tzuSebthreeBQM10HD: i have a REALLY important question to ask, please don't get offended when i ask it...Jul 20 23:59
SebthreeBQM10HDon a tablet though with a big enough screen it mightJul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you want  me to type less :D ?Jul 21 00:00
razielle_tzuare you being paid to shill for Touch?Jul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDoh h ehJul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, at one stage years ago,  I guess  I was a bit or so of an Ubuntu fan boy but that was also since I was much youngerJul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDthen certain things happended that I didn't like with desktop ubuntuJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDso started moving more away to other disrosJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDMageia etcJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I got quite invovled with Magia acgauly in certain ways, which took me to Brussels fosdemJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDthe last five yearsJul 21 00:01
razielle_tzuthat doesn't answer the question i asked though :/Jul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDhowever Mageia is a bit boring now I findJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDsince it really is just keeping what was the old Mandriva alive s  community distroJul 21 00:02
razielle_tzuwhich leads me to a second question...Jul 21 00:02
razielle_tzuare you really a politician?Jul 21 00:02
SebthreeBQM10HDreally all they mostly do is put in upstrema pckages, and their branding nad yahJul 21 00:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  went more away from Ubuntu, but I did go to the weekly jono bacon questio and answer sessionsJul 21 00:03
SebthreeBQM10HDthat happended beforeJul 21 00:03
SebthreeBQM10HDand oh he was great at showing ubuntu touch on the nexus etcJul 21 00:03
SebthreeBQM10HDit  always looked intereting  some how!  but when I wanted a phone in 2013,  it went out of stock so ended upwith a samsuing galaxy s3,  however of course hwen the first commericaly availalbe ubuntu phone went on sale, I bought one, and so on from thereJul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDit's just interetingJul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDit's differnetJul 21 00:04
razielle_tzuSebthreeBQM10HD: that's great and all but my questions could have been answered with yes or no, not a long spiel that i can't focus on because of my medsJul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI like playing with differnet kinds of oses, altough it's been mostly LInux so far!Jul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI do feel that can se where Ubuntu is giong much more now, well where Canonical is trying to take it, going by these devices thoughJul 21 00:05
SebthreeBQM10HDand well Firefox OS had so much potential really, but Mozilla messed up,  targeting only realy Africa to begin withJul 21 00:05
SebthreeBQM10HDshame since I did buy a cheap Firefox OS phone last year as well, and I seen some Firefox OS again this year at FOSDEM to,  and well it looks so nice etcJul 21 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDmore so than Ubuntu touch in fact!Jul 21 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDthe way it looks the graphicsJul 21 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDso  Fiefox OS eh, that's pretty much had it, excpet for on panasonic  smart tvs.  jolla I don't think quite has the intention of targeting the main stremae like Canonical woud love to do in the future.  and Tizn is Samsungs back up plan and play thing,  for if Android doesnt' go how they want it enough etcJul 21 00:07
SebthreeBQM10HDso the main altenratie Linux player like it or not is Ubuntu Touch, alternative being to Android as wellJul 21 00:08
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razielle_tzutrueJul 21 00:08
razielle_tzuanyway, time to create an antergos usb installerJul 21 00:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, quite  a few of us prefer more well Desktop Linux like mobile devices as well now as in smart phones and tablets,  and in diffenrt ways Ubuntu Touch and Salifish OS do that, and to some extent Firefox OS as wellJul 21 00:09
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razielle_tzuyeah i knowJul 21 00:11
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Tizen eh, that's not really going to go anywhere proper it seems, unless Samsung decide for it toJul 21 00:12
razielle_tzuthere are a few devs outside of samsung testing it afaikJul 21 00:14
razielle_tzuso it might go somewhere with the hackersJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HDwith hackersJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HDsureJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HD,butJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HDnot more average kind of peopleJul 21 00:15
SebthreeBQM10HDFIrefox won't go with more average pople now, so that's out in that context, Jolla I don't think will either because Salifish OS in certain ways seem to be more aimed at tedchis than aything else really from waht I have seen as well, and jolla has a load of company issues now as well, and is smallJul 21 00:15
SebthreeBQM10HDso that's out then for possibly getting out thee more with techi'sJul 21 00:16
SebthreeBQM10HDso it basically just leves Canonical with Ubuntu,  with the proper intention and most interst of doing tht in general, and not just for commerical rasons Samsung uhJul 21 00:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus  yes they have done things that have been a bit hmm over the years at times, I agree with that, but well it's interesting reallyJul 21 00:17
razielle_tzui know maybe three users i'd consider average though, so it's no big deal if tizen is only popular with hackers/customisersJul 21 00:17
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu flor phone and tablets etcJul 21 00:17
SebthreeBQM10HDthree years you would consider average what you mean?Jul 21 00:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Tizen is for geeks who know about it and want it, and also Samsungs back up plan if relying on Android turns out to not be in their interest any moreJul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDenoughJul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDso Tizen in that sense eh, but I  am interested in importing an r3 from india, to try the os etcJul 21 00:18
razielle_tzuso do it?Jul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDI will, but got other tech to buy firstJul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDso have to waitJul 21 00:19
SebthreeBQM10HDtech devices most of them aren't exactly cheap soJul 21 00:19
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes can buy tizen phones on amzon or e bayJul 21 00:20
*SebthreeBQM10HD would possibly be interested to an extent if razielle_tzu made her own OS, but why? try even if just in a vm, but try why simple since it would be another os to tryJul 21 00:21
razielle_tzui'm tempted but i need to learn to code a bit more firstJul 21 00:21
*SebthreeBQM10HD woudn't be that interesetd if it was just some linux based or linuxey type one, I mean more an OS made from scratch etc :dJul 21 00:21
razielle_tzuplus it would only be another linux distroJul 21 00:21
SebthreeBQM10HDther was some guy that did oneJul 21 00:21
SebthreeBQM10HDI read about it like a year agoJul 21 00:21
SebthreeBQM10HDnamed after abird or something, I can't remember what it was calledJul 21 00:22
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah he had worked on here and there for quite a few yearsJul 21 00:22
SebthreeBQM10HDand I mean an OS from scratch, his own kernel the lotJul 21 00:22
razielle_tzutrueJul 21 00:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes I am not  programmer , but I am interested in osesJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDhow i see it isJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDwell the os  makes the expereinceJul 21 00:23
razielle_tzui'm not a programmer either, not any more at leastJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDthe hardware you actully use does to an extent as well sure, but the OS is the like experience you get and useJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDand then whatever programs with that OS as wellJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDso when my Dad was like to me about 10 years or so ago,  eh to oses basically, like they didn't matter much differnet ones etcJul 21 00:24
SebthreeBQM10HDyes that annoyed me!Jul 21 00:24
SebthreeBQM10HDhe would just use Windows, and be like eh to anything else, don't want ot use that etcJul 21 00:24
razielle_tzui preferred amigas to the early pcs we had but then commodore went underJul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I didn't get to play with stuf like that reallyJul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwell ther was some old pc that was gven to us in the 90s for freeJul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwith like a green screen etc, could do some stuff, unofrutntly it got thorwn out!Jul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDI put pc, but it wasn't a pcJul 21 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HDit was some other kind of computer, and I don't know whatJul 21 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HDso putting pc was a mistake I did there reallyJul 21 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also shame our old Atari broke, because we had some  interesting games for that as well, such as  Donky Kong and ChooperJul 21 00:27
SebthreeBQM10HDI think I can get Donky Kong for  something now, that reminds me, but I coudn't find  chooper that's ashameJul 21 00:27
*SebthreeBQM10HD loved chooperJul 21 00:27
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm I guess there's an actsul atari emulater out there some wher, and then games for thatJul 21 00:28
SebthreeBQM10HDsame for Amiga etcJul 21 00:28
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razielle_tzui knowJul 21 00:29
razielle_tzui use the amiga one from time to timeJul 21 00:29
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm an amiga one for what?Jul 21 00:29
razielle_tzui use the amiga emulator for games and sometimes octamedJul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it's amazing relly the amount of old software there is out ther enowJul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, from games, to other thingsJul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDsoftware going back to like the 80's even and at times before that evenJul 21 00:30
razielle_tzutake a look through archive.org sometimes ;)Jul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDyes last time I was on there a lotJul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDI was doing WIndows 3.1Jul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDthey got like Windows 3.1 emulater Jul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can play the old solitaire, and mess around with free cell as well and paint and other  thingsJul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand all in the browser yepJul 21 00:31
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is awesome :)Jul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, do you prefer modren gaming or more well older gaming retro ?Jul 21 00:32
SebthreeBQM10HDand why ?Jul 21 00:32
razielle_tzudepends on my mood and who i'm playing withJul 21 00:33
SebthreeBQM10HD razielle_tzu I can easilly play lots of old games on a interesting gaming device nowJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDso awesome :)Jul 21 00:34
razielle_tzu:)Jul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDit's been fun the last few weekshere and there thatJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, get to play games that would have never played othewise etcJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDor try them out a bit etcJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, which reminds me there was some kind of barbie racer I wanted to download and try out,  yes Barbie seriously Jul 21 00:35
razielle_tzulol, i preferred micromachines on the A500+Jul 21 00:35
razielle_tzu:PJul 21 00:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat's micromachines ?Jul 21 00:35
razielle_tzuit's an rc racing gameJul 21 00:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I was doing old rug rats games last night, but yeah most dind't seem good or now, we had a good one on the ps 1 beforeJul 21 00:36
SebthreeBQM10HDthere was one that did seem good thoughJul 21 00:36
razielle_tzuoh?Jul 21 00:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yep lots of old games that can try out as I was saying,  Monster Trucks is good :)Jul 21 00:38
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 00:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, knock knockJul 21 00:39
SebthreeBQM10HDwho's there?Jul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Jul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  whoJul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDyou!Jul 21 00:40
razielle_tzuthat was bad :PJul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  yep :dJul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDand was meant to be a bit random to :DJul 21 00:40
*SebthreeBQM10HD could never actsaully do rel knock knock jokes it seems, oh wellJul 21 00:41
razielle_tzuoh wellJul 21 00:41
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks razielle_tzu should entertain him, he's starting to get bored it seems hmmJul 21 00:41
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 21 00:41
razielle_tzui don't do entertaining though :/Jul 21 00:42
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, dance around for me :d Jul 21 00:42
razielle_tzunoJul 21 00:42
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 21 00:42
*SebthreeBQM10HD will probably actsually watch tv tonight, still has the last seris of hereos to watch a bit more of for example, and that was on tv months agoJul 21 00:43
*razielle_tzu is waiting for antergos to finish installingJul 21 00:43
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a horror movie that started watdching again the other week, that had seen most of before, an irish, so yeah at some stage i'll finish that off toJul 21 00:44
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks he has hear of antergos before yeah probably and probably from razielle_tzu but has a mind that has gone blank as to what that is, some sort of amiga thing or something maybeJul 21 00:44
SebthreeBQM10HDor some thing else to with old computersJul 21 00:45
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks using /me can be fun :dJul 21 00:45
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks using /me can be fun, but when used correctly though as an action thingJul 21 00:45
razielle_tzuantergos is an arch based distroJul 21 00:45
SebthreeBQM10HDseems my irc client doesn't like two of those in a rowJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDoh an arch based distro yeah I think I read about that before some hwere a few timesJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yes that explains itJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but why do you prefer arch?Jul 21 00:46
*SebthreeBQM10HD wonders what the secret is that cubexyz and razielle_tzu the something that I was nearly told :DJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDhasJul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDhas togetherJul 21 00:47
razielle_tzuit's a rolling distro, which is nice, and you have more control over everything right from the start instead of having to get rid of things you don't like after installing the base systemJul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDa rolling distro ok :)Jul 21 00:47
razielle_tzueveryone who pays attention knows itJul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDyour secrete thing that isn't a secret then ?Jul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDuh?Jul 21 00:48
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razielle_tzupretty muchJul 21 00:48
razielle_tzuyou seem to be the only person unaware of itJul 21 00:48
SebthreeBQM10HDuh I probaby to do then or would, but I don't remember if I even knowJul 21 00:48
*SebthreeBQM10HD isn't always in here as wellJul 21 00:48
*SebthreeBQM10HD isn't going to read through a load of old logs for this channel as well :DJul 21 00:49
razielle_tzu:PJul 21 00:49
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes rolling distors can be nicer ike PC Linux OS for example as wellJul 21 00:49
SebthreeBQM10HDhaving to update say every well Jul 21 00:49
SebthreeBQM10HD18 months? or 9 with Ubuntu? well  when meant to do  a big update, can be rather uhJul 21 00:50
SebthreeBQM10HDthe same old, ssam old boring packagin installing in a later version etc in a big slow updateJul 21 00:50
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, so what i am apparnatly meant to know it seems, but don't know ?Jul 21 00:51
razielle_tzui might explain properly laterJul 21 00:51
SebthreeBQM10HDhmmJul 21 00:51
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it's ok if you use to be a guy etc, h eh, no that's a joke, and seriosuly whatever it is, well it's fine I expect, and your awesome :)Jul 21 00:52
razielle_tzuscrew it... i DID used to be a guy, that changed two years ago when i came out as transJul 21 00:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really?Jul 21 00:53
SebthreeBQM10HDoh hence that channel as well the ohJul 21 00:53
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDprobably explains the tech interests to realyJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDto the extent you haveJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDsinceJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDnot that many born as, are into it as much etc, yes there are some that are thoughJul 21 00:55
razielle_tzunot really, like i said before i know plenty of girls interested in techJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDI came across someone yearsa go in another channel actaullyJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDwhoJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDapparnatly was a tech girl etc, but then wel wanted to bbecome a girl more etcJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDactually mett this person  few years later at an event as well, was meant tobe the pevious year, but we coudn't find each other then etcJul 21 00:56
SebthreeBQM10HDplus they dated someone from the event etc, broken up sinceJul 21 00:57
SebthreeBQM10HDa guy fromJul 21 00:57
SebthreeBQM10HDand whatever it's IRC, doesn't really matter that much what gender someone is etc, is on here :)Jul 21 00:57
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople are people on IRC :)Jul 21 00:58
razielle_tzui know it doesn't but somethings can be really gratingJul 21 00:58
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat do you mean?Jul 21 00:58
razielle_tzucomments about "being a guy really", asking what i'd do if i had a cock for a day, things like thatJul 21 00:59
razielle_tzuthey can make me feel like crapJul 21 00:59
razielle_tzui normally play them off but i can't today because things are kinda crappy on that frontJul 21 01:00
SebthreeBQM10HDgenerally in this channel people have much more freedom of speech than in most other channels on this network etc let's say, now that isn't always a good thing possibly but yeahJul 21 01:01
razielle_tzua freedom of speech doesn't mean a freedom from consequenceJul 21 01:01
razielle_tzuso whiole people are free to say whatever, so are people that disagree :)Jul 21 01:02
razielle_tzu*whileJul 21 01:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, just to be clear,  I like you :),  some of my a bit more jokey comments etc might have come across the wrong way a bit at times thoughJul 21 01:03
razielle_tzuit happens sometimes and i feel at fault for not clearing things up soonerJul 21 01:03
razielle_tzuit was just nice to be accepted as a girl in tech without dealing with trans bullshit tooJul 21 01:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI used to be more careful about anything I put in this channel to, but seem to be more relaxed nowJul 21 01:05
razielle_tzuthere's only one channel i'm in that i sometimes have to deal with transphobia in and that's because i'm not usually around when the transphobes areJul 21 01:06
SebthreeBQM10HDbut most people in genearl who come to this channel don't really care much about what they put in itJul 21 01:06
razielle_tzui knowJul 21 01:07
SebthreeBQM10HDand  I see that a lot from you actusallyJul 21 01:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, IRC is mostly for fun or out of boredom I guess really,  unless it's for like support for something, or a project meeting or something like thatJul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDcertain channels more so than othersJul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDcertian channels are just uhJul 21 01:08
razielle_tzuinfo, help with things and general chat for me :)Jul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDsince waht people genrally chat  about etcJul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, like the Aspergers channels on here for example uhJul 21 01:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and yes to your point earlier, it's easier to be who we want to be on iRC for example :)Jul 21 01:10
razielle_tzuit was easier for me to do that offline before admitting it to some people on hereJul 21 01:10
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can be pretty much whoever you want to be in fact onlineJul 21 01:10
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, offline oh ?Jul 21 01:11
SebthreeBQM10HDand people on here oh ?Jul 21 01:11
razielle_tzuyeah, i came out to my mother and fiancée before i came out to my friends on hereJul 21 01:11
SebthreeBQM10HDfinancee a woman ?Jul 21 01:11
razielle_tzuyupJul 21 01:11
SebthreeBQM10HDthing is now your doing it in public basically since this channel will get logged, but I guess that's been done before anyway soJul 21 01:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, on  occasion it can be useful to have this channel logged, but I think mostly there's not much point realyJul 21 01:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, anyway I think we have become freinds on here :) definetly Jul 21 01:14
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 01:14
SebthreeBQM10HDso girl/guy whateverJul 21 01:14
SebthreeBQM10HDit's more common now as well I thik generally or starting to be, people like thatJul 21 01:15
SebthreeBQM10HDor well in this kiknd of country anyway it seemsJul 21 01:15
razielle_tzuit's not that it's more common, it's that more people are coming out and willing to transitionJul 21 01:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, p m ?Jul 21 01:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755921439530835968Jul 21 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 This $50 Android smartphone may be the best deal in techJul 21 01:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5yzGOzZf9o (www.marketwatch.com)Jul 21 01:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This $50 Android smartphone may be the best deal in tech - MarketWatchJul 21 01:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 vs. 760 vs. 960 vs. 1060 LinuxJul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance https://t.co/JkcCIfWVbz (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 vs. 760 vs. 960 vs. 1060 Linux Performance Review - PhoronixJul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755922340156993536Jul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Release of Fedora 24 updated LivesJul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c531e1YqjS (jbwillia.wordpress.com)Jul 21 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbwillia.wordpress.com | Release of Fedora 24 updated Lives | Jbwillia's WeblogJul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755922584911437824Jul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Tough i.MX6-based Linux SBC targets wireless video, runsJul 21 01:36
TweetTuxMachines                 on 3W https://t.co/lGKOc4RPq8 (hackerboards.com)Jul 21 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Tough i.MX6-based Linux SBC targets wireless video, runs on 3WJul 21 01:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord for Linux release date announced, arrivingJul 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines                 tomorrow the 21st of July https://t.co/Hyt7q19mhvJul 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 02:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overlord for Linux release date announced, arriving tomorrow the 21st of July | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755933532996808704Jul 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines                 NZ govt agencies now have open source software at theirJul 21 02:14
TweetTuxMachines                 side https://t.co/Rph9oAAvOn (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 02:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NZ govt agencies now have open source software at their side | Tux MachinesJul 21 02:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755933627448516608Jul 21 02:14
TweetTuxMachines                 The World Envies India – New SailfishOS Phone Jul 21 02:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XjmxQ1kKGE (mschlander.wordpress.com)Jul 21 02:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mschlander.wordpress.com | The World Envies India – New SailfishOS Phone | The Blog is HotJul 21 02:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/755710983021142016Jul 21 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @agonarch yeah I complained this was really expensive for poor Africans to join in.Jul 21 02:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/755723193558663169Jul 21 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @DSMeu @Ansip_EU with spectrum monopolies, there is no competition.Jul 21 02:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bunniestudios/status/755746841925414913Jul 21 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bunniestudios: Why I'm modding the iPhone 6 with @snowden. Thursday 9am Boston time via livestream: https://t.co/Y9HtImXy4d #forbiddenMLJul 21 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.media.mit.edu | Forbidden Research | MIT Media LabJul 21 02:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/755938803114610688Jul 21 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tecknocrat: @schestowitz I think it's Twitter. How they 'filter' your timeline depending on your search/views etc. I'll have to follow 'manually 😬✔️🍷🍷🍷🖖Jul 21 02:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TDIAct/status/755940728866430977Jul 21 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TDIAct: Meanwhile in #Turkey #Truth shall set you... Behind bars or executed after the expedited trials to come! https://t.co/nGXA8uF2bCJul 21 02:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Turkey Blocks #Wikileaks After It Dumps Nearly 300,000 Turkish Gov't Emails https://t.co/q52xl4tmE3 #censorshipJul 21 02:42
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TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord Is Being Released For Linux TodayJul 21 02:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Jc5v1iPobi (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 02:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overlord Is Being Released For Linux Tomorrow - PhoronixJul 21 02:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755941159114006532Jul 21 02:46
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME's Mutter Sees Big Rework, Striving For Multi-DPIJul 21 02:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Rendering https://t.co/LNJyKggRCM (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 02:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755941368556650496Jul 21 02:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing the Latest VLC Player on Ubuntu Is A SnapJul 21 02:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/l5opVtpjey (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 21 02:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Testing the Latest VLC Player on Ubuntu Is a Snap - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 21 02:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755941700263112708Jul 21 02:47
TweetTuxMachines                 MacBuntu 16.04 Transformation Pack for Ubuntu 16.04Jul 21 02:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Xenial Xerus  https://t.co/TNcTMNuj5n (www.noobslab.com)Jul 21 02:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Convergence VideoJul 21 03:34
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Tfr7cirf5T (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 21 03:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Fairphone 2 Ubuntu Touch Convergence Video - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 21 03:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755949183975223296Jul 21 03:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Roon Labs' audiophile music server now streams tunes fromJul 21 03:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-powered NAS boxes https://t.co/uNGLW3J9kvJul 21 03:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techhive.com | Roon's audiophile music streamer now croons from NAS boxesJul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755954137729163265Jul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 The World Envies India – New SailfishOS PhoneJul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/z0zLFiGTqF (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 03:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755954138496638976Jul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/UTMTb8uRN8Jul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 03:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755954139243307008Jul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/ezEWo07ZhfJul 21 03:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755954139964649472Jul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Roon Labs' audiophile music server now streams tunes fromJul 21 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-powered NAS boxes https://t.co/zaoFy6928TJul 21 03:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Roon Labs' audiophile music server now streams tunes from Linux-powered NAS boxes | Tux MachinesJul 21 03:35
cubexyzok, another update...Jul 21 03:40
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtJul 21 03:41
cubexyzdamn... forgot the last updateJul 21 03:42
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txtJul 21 03:42
cubexyzblekko is defunct nowJul 21 03:43
cubexyzI think it's important to actively resist M$ rather than just say "oh well, they're here to stay" with a laissez-faire attitudeJul 21 03:49
cubexyzM$ is very aggressive, and they need to be resisted aggressivelyJul 21 03:49
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TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/b5rGgfbkGsJul 21 05:29
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cubexyzhaha torrent folks are funny...Jul 21 06:29
cubexyzF.AM.OUS.MO.V.IE..200.9Jul 21 06:29
cubexyzhey, I get it torrent dudesJul 21 06:30
cubexyzn.udge.nu.d.ge.w.in.k.win.kJul 21 06:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google is making it harder to root Android 7.0 NougatJul 21 08:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mmrHZgixdw (betanews.com)Jul 21 08:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756021645404434432Jul 21 08:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat redraws Ansible Tower so even enterprise managersJul 21 08:11
TweetTuxMachines                 can get it https://t.co/cm0yQ7BPxSJul 21 08:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk) https://t.co/pitG3ULYA5Jul 21 08:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.businesswire.com)Jul 21 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Red Hat redraws Ansible Tower so even enterprise managers can get it • The RegisterJul 21 08:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756023713775095808Jul 21 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Auto is coming to three niche car manufacturers:Jul 21 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Lada, Koenigsegg, and Borgward https://t.co/tBINWHqIraJul 21 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jul 21 08:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756023859258728448Jul 21 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 "Alan Cox, who was awarded an honorary degree by SwanseaJul 21 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 University for his work with Linux."Jul 21 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/W6rOPzTuuH (lwn.net)Jul 21 08:12
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TweetTuxMachines                 "Testers will login to GNOME using a fresh "test" login,Jul 21 08:38
TweetTuxMachines                 and go through the first-time experience."Jul 21 08:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 21/7/2016: An Honorary Degree for Alan Cox, LooksJul 21 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Back at DebConf16 https://t.co/AEPa7KBTZ3Jul 21 08:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 How to install Arch Linux on Dell XPS 13 (2016) in 7Jul 21 08:58
TweetTuxMachines                 steps https://t.co/wIOzSipiTW (www.cio.com)Jul 21 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756035601951055872Jul 21 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 7 Differences Between Linux and Windows: UserJul 21 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Expectations https://t.co/cfwE0vKpCG (www.datamation.com)Jul 21 09:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756037118422577152Jul 21 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.2 Alpha3 releasedJul 21 09:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VB8da92xr3 (lists.opensuse.org)Jul 21 09:17
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce – BETA ReleaseJul 21 09:17
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TweetTuxMachines                 BrainBread 2, an utterly ridiculous Source engine poweredJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 FPS is now free on Steam with Linux supportJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nwVIRCdYDi (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BrainBread 2, an utterly ridiculous Source engine powered FPS is now free on Steam with Linux support | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756040416877830144Jul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Rust has now sold over 30 thousand copies on LinuxJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DMdVvZaXO6 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust has now sold over 30 thousand copies on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756041555337744384Jul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's Mesa Driver Appears Ready For OpenGL 4.5Jul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xXg7Oh8G0M (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel's Mesa Driver Appears Ready For OpenGL 4.5 - PhoronixJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756042047937798144Jul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 SJVN Talks FOSS, Linux, Microsoft & More…Jul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZF87c7C5wd (fossforce.com)Jul 21 09:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | SJVN Talks FOSS, Linux, Microsoft & More… | FOSS ForceJul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756042314557030400Jul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Mutter 3.21.4 https://t.co/GtQhltrZIh (mail.gnome.org)Jul 21 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 The Linux Setup - Jerry Bezencon, Linux LiteJul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cYeZckHd2K (www.mylinuxrig.com)Jul 21 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | The Linux Setup - Jerry Bezencon, Linux Lite - My Linux RigJul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756046141544919040Jul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 - And we represent!  https://t.co/2Zc1Jf18vKJul 21 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce – BETA ReleaseJul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yyDuj52td2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce – BETA Release | Tux MachinesJul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111059040161793Jul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/Z2iLMZ4wsXJul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111060130598912Jul 21 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenSUSE 42.2 Alpha 3 https://t.co/1q9WddedC1Jul 21 13:58
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cubexyzfoss force offline... bad gateway :-.Jul 21 16:03
razielle_tzuo.OJul 21 16:11
cubexyznow it's workingJul 21 16:11
razielle_tzufair, i didn't notice any issuesJul 21 16:12
razielle_tzuthen again i'm downloading images for the pi i have right now for tomorrow's potential showcase :DJul 21 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111061166665728Jul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Privacy Violations, Fedora: Season's PickJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pfFWiokgwY (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Privacy Violations, Fedora: Season's Pick | Tux MachinesJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111062252957696Jul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 - And we represent! https://t.co/zrXSnJ1hAaJul 21 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 - And we represent! | Tux MachinesJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756135229396430848Jul 21 16:14
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/BEvOrTvab1Jul 21 16:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Desktop | Tux MachinesJul 21 16:14
cubexyzI've just noticed they cropped out quite a bit of X11R6 from slackwareJul 21 16:19
cubexyzor I guess it would be X11R7 nowJul 21 16:20
razielle_tzui don't keep up with slackware, maybe should change that after i had issues with antergos last nightJul 21 16:21
cubexyzit could be they shunted parts of X11 into a different package I haven't installedJul 21 16:22
razielle_tzui couldn't get the prop drivers for my graphics card to compile due to unmet dependencies, which in turn wouldn't compile :/Jul 21 16:22
razielle_tzuwhich meant i couldnt get steam and a few other gfx heavy things runningJul 21 16:23
cubexyzthat must be a new thing... I don't seem to remember that at allJul 21 16:27
razielle_tzuyeah, it seems to be. everything works fine on mint though so for now i'm back on thatJul 21 16:30
cubexyzI know the FC1 stuff fairly well :)Jul 21 16:33
cubexyzand I probably know Unix v5, v6, and v7 better than I know FC1Jul 21 16:34
razielle_tzu:)Jul 21 16:34
razielle_tzuaside from a keyboard and mouse i think i'm ready to show off a pi tomorrow....Jul 21 16:35
razielle_tzuthree different SD cards with osmc, NOOBS and risc on them... NOOBS i'll probably use for scratch or raspbianJul 21 16:38
cubexyzI think you get mathematica with that Jul 21 16:40
cubexyzor can get it Jul 21 16:41
cubexyzit might be part of NOOBSJul 21 16:41
razielle_tzui'm not sure what's included with noobs, just that it's nearly 2GB as it is, i'll check tomorrow before the club startsJul 21 16:41
razielle_tzushame i couldn't get osmc (or an earlier version) working properly on that terminalJul 21 16:42
cubexyzmathematica itself isn't really my cup of tea Jul 21 16:42
cubexyzproprietaryJul 21 16:43
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 16:43
razielle_tzui've already thrown most of what i need into a bag for tomorrow, it's just my keyboard and trackball left to pack but i'm using them :PJul 21 16:43
cubexyzyeah, I'm not really up on raspberry pi stuff as yetJul 21 16:48
razielle_tzui want the newer models at some pointJul 21 16:48
razielle_tzui have the B+ right nowJul 21 16:48
razielle_tzui want the zero and B2 >.<Jul 21 16:49
cubexyzwow, there's Plan 9 for raspberry piJul 21 16:49
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 16:49
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razielle_tzuthere's also freebsd for the model B tooJul 21 16:50
razielle_tzuoh and the pi 2Jul 21 16:50
cubexyztoo many blobs, probably why there's no openbsd for itJul 21 16:52
cubexyznot that my streamer is any less blobbyJul 21 16:52
razielle_tzuhehJul 21 16:52
razielle_tzuanyway, time for a haircut and possibly dyeJul 21 16:54
razielle_tzubbsJul 21 16:54
cubexyzblue is a nice colour :)Jul 21 16:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 ONOS Project and ONF Deliver First White Box and OpenJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Leaf-Spine Fabric for Data CentersJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sunBecoRbS (www.marketwired.com)Jul 21 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | ONOS Project and ONF Deliver First White Box and Open Source Leaf-Spine Fabric for Data CentersJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756155218459373569Jul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 $5 Omega2 Linux Mini PC Designed For The Internet OfJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Things And More (video)  https://t.co/G4Nuc7iwj1Jul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.geeky-gadgets.com) https://t.co/pQagpqRIJRJul 21 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | $5 Omega2 Linux Mini PC Designed For The Internet Of Things And More (video) - Geeky GadgetsJul 21 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Onion brings Omega2: a $5 Linux powered IoT board | TheTechNewsJul 21 17:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Graduates: How to Get Your Dream Open Source JobJul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/emH6TqJDUB (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graduates: How to Get Your Dream Open Source Job | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756159352793276417Jul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS in Networking https://t.co/dHA07124qsJul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in Networking | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756160604352552961Jul 21 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Evolution of Linux Containers and FutureJul 21 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/p6WSR7emPr (dzone.com)Jul 21 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756162489516040193Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Shadows of Kurgansk, a good looking single-player actionJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 and survival game now on Linux & SteamOSJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/gSvx1WdB6a (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shadows of Kurgansk, a good looking single-player action and survival game now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756162702960189441Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Buds vs Bad Guys, the action platformer from a dadJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 and son team has been fully funded and coming to LinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sAGtmFPbPF (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Buds vs Bad Guys, the action platformer from a dad and son team has been fully funded and coming to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756163338564808704Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Quadrant, an interesting survival horror is now on LinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 & SteamOS https://t.co/jA4Idp9Rw2 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quadrant, an interesting survival horror is now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756163509881372672Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Dungeon Rushers, a 2D tactical RPG and dungeon crawlerJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 now on Linux https://t.co/RouC0MX3wrJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dungeon Rushers, a 2D tactical RPG and dungeon crawler now on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
razielle_tzucubexyz: blue is a great colour, on my partner :PJul 21 17:45
razielle_tzui prefer reds and blacksJul 21 17:45
cubexyzok :)Jul 21 17:45
razielle_tzuxDJul 21 17:46
razielle_tzuso later it's going a deep redJul 21 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 Korora 24 Screenshot TourJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/N3qKLU8fRv (www.linuxscreenshots.org)Jul 21 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Korora 24 Screenshot TourJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172360873603072Jul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 This New Android Is Like the Swiss Army Knife of PhonesJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YrkWOES2mo (time.com)Jul 21 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Moto Z Review: The Android Phone That TransformsJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172613987229696Jul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 In Search of a Linux iTunes ReplacementJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pz5BRFd2eQ (fossforce.com)Jul 21 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | In Search of a Linux iTunes Replacement | FOSS ForceJul 21 18:03
cubexyzxbc is an interesting little program... an example of minimalist programming I'd dare sayJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172754185924609Jul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 The Ubuntu-powered BQ Aquaris M10 tablet: Almost amazingJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/C0wCchzoiL (www.networkworld.com)Jul 21 18:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | The Ubuntu-powered BQ Aquaris M10 tablet: Almost amazing | Network WorldJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173079555010560Jul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Why and How to Use Ring Instead of Skype on LinuxJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RegMBqXKi5 (www.linux.com)Jul 21 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173189718302720Jul 21 18:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS released https://t.co/M1VqT19wVFJul 21 18:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.ubuntu.com)Jul 21 18:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173320031117312Jul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of AllJul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Phones https://t.co/SEDL1ZSNhhJul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 21 18:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu PhonesJul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173491250966529Jul 21 18:09
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE LLC’s SUSE Manager https://t.co/n5tBPq289pJul 21 18:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Jul 21 18:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | SUSE LLC's SUSE Manager | Linux JournalJul 21 18:09
razielle_tzui don't think i've used xbcJul 21 18:09
cubexyzmost likely notJul 21 18:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173842180079616Jul 21 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux,Jul 21 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 some thoughts and a port report https://t.co/JR4pFXFzOPJul 21 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux, some thoughts and a port report | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 18:10
cubexyzxbc is not part of any distro I don't thinkJul 21 18:13
razielle_tzunot that i know ofJul 21 18:14
cubexyzit's Xt/Motif stuffJul 21 18:15
razielle_tzuah yeah, then no i've not used itJul 21 18:16
cubexyzan example of programmng a GUI for bc :)Jul 21 18:16
cubexyzit's from the book "The X Window System: Programming and Applications with Xt"Jul 21 18:16
razielle_tzucoolJul 21 18:17
razielle_tzuoh yeah, so seb is finally caught up on most of the things the channel as a whole knows about me >.<Jul 21 18:17
cubexyzthere's also an AI bot processing the logs :)Jul 21 18:18
razielle_tzuthat doesn't bother meJul 21 18:18
razielle_tzui keep my own logs anyway unless the founder of a channel asks us not toJul 21 18:19
cubexyzI think it's safe to say this is a pro-logging channel :)Jul 21 18:19
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 18:19
cubexyzI asked some of the original X developers about the first paint programJul 21 18:20
cubexyzbut no one could remember writing oneJul 21 18:20
razielle_tzulolJul 21 18:21
razielle_tzubut yeah, somehow he missed the memo that i'm a trans lesbian about to start a BSc in computingJul 21 18:21
cubexyzseb still needs to learn a bit about Unix tooJul 21 18:21
razielle_tzuyeah he doesJul 21 18:21
razielle_tzui'm getting sick of hearing him talk about his tablet and keyboard or ubuntu touchJul 21 18:23
cubexyzhahaJul 21 18:23
razielle_tzuit's almost all he talks about in public if he's not asking questions, in private he's better but still has one track most of the timeJul 21 18:24
razielle_tzui asked him if he's paid as a shill for them and got a convoluted response that didn't answer the questionJul 21 18:25
razielle_tzuso i asked if he's a politician and got the same kind of answerJul 21 18:25
cubexyzyeah I just you just have to try to be extra patient with himJul 21 18:28
razielle_tzui was having trouble focusing on what he was saying due to my meds though and wanted a straight answerJul 21 18:29
*TweetTuxMachines @Glatorcom favourited 'Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux,...'Jul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756177825346883586Jul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA To Meet With Wayland, Linux Kernel Developers ToJul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Discuss GBM vs. Streams https://t.co/7YtVbS0cxEJul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 18:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA To Meet With Wayland, Linux Kernel Developers To Discuss GBM vs. Streams - PhoronixJul 21 18:34
cubexyzwell if someone is disordered in their thinking or constantly jumping from topic to topic then anyone would find that difficult to processJul 21 18:36
razielle_tzuusually i can keep up but my meds make me sleepy and a little dizzyJul 21 18:39
razielle_tzuat least until i get used to them againJul 21 18:39
cubexyzI can cite many examples of programmers that wrote long programs and nary a comment and also no man page or any other documentationJul 21 19:04
cubexyzUnix v5's man pages didn't really surviveJul 21 19:05
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cubexyzanyways, I'm trying to not do that :)Jul 21 19:08
razielle_tzulack of documentation can kill a projectJul 21 19:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756180434216587265Jul 21 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Interoute gets certification from Red HatJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/wUvcljsnmz (www.telecompaper.com) ...Jul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MwkaFiUWmN (joindiaspora.com)Jul 21 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interoute gets certification from Red Hat - TelecompaperJul 21 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Interoute gets certification from Red Hat http://www.telecompaper.c...Jul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756180760214765568Jul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Zipt free voice calling app selected as Marquee app forJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen https://t.co/hPqb3PSzPt (www.tizenexperts.com)Jul 21 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Zipt free voice calling app selected as Marquee app for Tizen - Tizen ExpertsJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756189206343397376Jul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromium’s $99 Superbook turns your Android phone into aJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 laptop (crowdfunding) https://t.co/Qao8AkUmTGJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (liliputing.com)Jul 21 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andromium's $99 Superbook turns your Android phone into a laptop (crowdfunding) - LiliputingJul 21 19:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634946Jul 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/07/research-and-remixes-law-wont-allow #copyright #law that's designed for the 1% (also of artists/recording moguls)Jul 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/ph4nk ]Jul 21 20:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634577Jul 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Interoute gets certification from #RedHat http://www.telecompaper.com/news/interoute-gets-certification-from-red-hat--1154305 ttp://www.realwire.com/releases/Interoute-becomes-first-European-Red-Hat-Certified-Cloud-and-Service #gnu #linuxJul 21 20:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7633878Jul 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Florida police shoot black man lying down with arms in air https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/21/florida-police-shoot-black-man-lying-down-with-arms-in-air and some people still wonder why #blacklivesmatter exists?Jul 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Florida police shoot black man lying down with arms in air | US news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/ph4nl ]Jul 21 20:37
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The...'Jul 21 21:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/voltraco/status/756218113067192320Jul 21 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@voltraco: @schestowitz We're working on a music player for Linux, check it out! https://t.co/FbYF2evCB2Jul 21 21:07
schestowitzNice site and git repoJul 21 21:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634489Jul 21 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu Phones http://news.softpedia.com/news/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-edition-review-the-king-of-all-ubuntu-phones-506501.shtmlJul 21 21:12
schestowitz"Jul 21 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu Phones [ http://ur1.ca/ph4r3 ]Jul 21 21:12
schestowitz@Roy – maybe less posts, but with more @Roy input/thought on each one?Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzIt kinda is just a dump of news bits that one can get from a LINUX RSS feed.Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzeg:Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzThe Meizu Pro 5 Flyme OS version has a growing number of bad reviews…syncing issues, email issues, etc.Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzDoes the Ubuntu version correct all of this meaning the problems are all for sure OS-related?Jul 21 21:12
schestowitz"Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzLinux RSS feeds are, IMHO, not that helpful as there's no decent quality control (user-submitted). I already divided my output into Linux and "the rest". Is there too much Linux-related stuff?Jul 21 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@voltraco        http://twitter.com/voltraco/status/756218040719642625Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines We're working on a music player for Linux,Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 check it out! https://t.co/FbYF2evCB2 (voltra.co)Jul 21 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voltra.co | Voltra Co. | Audio Player for Music CollectorsJul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756220037577318404Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 “Sarah” Xfce Beta https://t.co/KStiMQh730Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 21 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce Beta | TechrightsJul 21 21:20
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18...'Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756231919600144384Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Source OS https://t.co/DZGf5tL5Bs (thevarguy.com)Jul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232686218293248Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 The Linux Foundation Announces Agenda for LinuxCon andJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 ContainerCon Europe https://t.co/8PbQoNSvOzJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.marketwired.com)Jul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | The Linux Foundation Announces Agenda for LinuxCon and ContainerCon EuropeJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232862546792448Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/cNUcMKoulL (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232863360491521Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Software and Games https://t.co/W9AsHjygbCJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and Games | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232864128053248Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/wPSHCvVoFdJul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232864765612033Jul 21 22:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 22:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Source OS https://t.co/rJVPyYyzGD (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232861728944130Jul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/OEh6rHfjCZJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 22:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756237352645844992Jul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 "Gamepad support has now been merged into GNOME GamesJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 v3.21.4 !!!"  https://t.co/TMv5TiU0o1Jul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (meghprkh.github.io)Jul 21 22:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meghprkh.github.io | The state of gamepad support in Games | Megh's BlogJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756237498926374914Jul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 NEC Added to Red Hat’s Certified Cloud & Service ProviderJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Program; Paul Smith Comments https://t.co/gN0aWrea6GJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.govconwire.com)Jul 21 22:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govconwire.com | NEC Added to Red Hat’s Certified Cloud & Service Provider Program; Paul Smith CommentsJul 21 22:28
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 22 00:38
TweetTuxMachines @shaheeqa       Source OS https://t.co/DZGf5tL5Bs (thevarguy.com)Jul 22 00:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyJul 22 00:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756348345887649793Jul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Life Is Strange Mac and Linux versions available nowJul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JW3B1kBPhP (www.thumbsticks.com)Jul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mubwx47S2x (www.gamasutra.com)Jul 22 06:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life Is Strange Mac and Linux versions available now - ThumbsticksJul 22 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Life Is Strange is out now on Steam for Mac and Linux, with the first episode available for free!Jul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756357220044943361Jul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 10 Best Open Source Collaboration Software ToolsJul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vRVtsqgjmi (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 06:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Open Source Collaboration Software Tools | Tux MachinesJul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756357220812500992Jul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Splice Machine News https://t.co/Ud24UGIlODJul 22 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 06:27
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/756371337719975937Jul 22 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Any two-factor authentication is a triangulation .. https://t.co/zCazq445ivJul 22 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #​Nextcloud 10 beta includes two-factor authentication #security https://t.co/e3zYghHWgU #owncloud #freeswJul 22 07:16
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/756350270418870272  https://twitter.com/PizzaPartyBen/status/756349975513006081Jul 22 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClayTravis: 75% of viewers had a positive reaction to Trump's speech according to just released CNN poll. https://t.co/lUuMWcmlhSJul 22 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClayTravis: 75% of viewers had a positive reaction to Trump's speech according to just released CNN poll. https://t.co/lUuMWcmlhSJul 22 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PizzaPartyBen: CNN HAVING MELTDOWN https://t.co/2Ct07MfihoJul 22 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PizzaPartyBen: CNN HAVING MELTDOWN https://t.co/2Ct07MfihoJul 22 08:09
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7636448Jul 22 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tor Could Protect Your Smart Fridge From Spies and Hackers https://theintercept.com/2016/07/20/tor-could-protect-your-smart-fridge-from-spies-and-hackers/ better yet, don't put 'smart' anything (Internet-connected) at homeJul 22 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com | Tor Could Protect Your Smart Fridge From Spies and Hackers [ http://ur1.ca/ph6uh ]Jul 22 08:22
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7636368Jul 22 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft has been harvesting complete browser history since IE7 (ages ago). Not only ISPs and spies have those.Microsoft profits from thisJul 22 08:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7636448Jul 22 08:23
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634946Jul 22 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/07/research-and-remixes-law-wont-allow #copyright #law that's designed for the 1% (also of artists/recording moguls)Jul 22 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Research and Remixes the Law Won’t Allow | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/ph4nk ]Jul 22 08:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756359898083028992Jul 22 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3  https://t.co/5rbgsgvwm7Jul 22 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (nwrickert2.wordpress.com)Jul 22 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com | Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3 | Thoughts on computingJul 22 08:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756372832351842304Jul 22 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 "Advantech’s Linux-friendly SOM-3567 and SOM-3568 COMSJul 22 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 offer Intel Bay Trail and Braswell chips"Jul 22 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3XEv4ULyEk (hackerboards.com)Jul 22 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Bay Trail and Braswell COMs tap new Qseven 2.1 specJul 22 08:49
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TweetTuxMachines                 Games: Stardew Valley and Life is StrangeJul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Edv6X9YwbI (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 09:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395639395590145Jul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3 https://t.co/Pl6nkFuhVzJul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 09:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opensuse Leap 42.2 alpha3 | Tux MachinesJul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395640226066432Jul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04 Updated, Remembering Mandriva, Leap 42.2a3Jul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Report https://t.co/nyPqxLshLj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 09:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.04 Updated, Remembering Mandriva, Leap 42.2a3 Report | Tux MachinesJul 22 09:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756395641069182977Jul 22 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Nextcloud 10 beta includes two-factor authenticationJul 22 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 security https://t.co/g0ADHuLZfX (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 09:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​Nextcloud 10 beta includes two-factor authentication security | Tux MachinesJul 22 09:13
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cubexyzyes, I'm now fairly certain that 1994 was when everything seemed to coalesce together for LinuxJul 22 12:31
cubexyzRelease of Linux 1.0Jul 22 12:31
cubexyzRelease of X11R6 which is still a standard todayJul 22 12:31
razielle_tzufrom what i know of the timeline that sounds rightJul 22 12:32
razielle_tzuoh, i couldn't do my pi presentation today :/Jul 22 12:32
cubexyzhow come?Jul 22 12:32
razielle_tzuno one was ready for it so i'm doing it on the 12thJul 22 12:32
razielle_tzuplus i screwed the NOOBS SD card up so it wouldn't bootJul 22 12:33
razielle_tzuthe RISC and OSMC cards worked thoughJul 22 12:33
razielle_tzuNOOBS had a conflict in the amount of free space reported and what was actually there so it hung waiting for the settings partitionJul 22 12:37
razielle_tzui think it's because i didn't actualy format the card, i just deleted what was on itJul 22 12:37
cubexyzpossibleJul 22 12:37
razielle_tzui've just formatted it and i'm going to test it in a minuteJul 22 12:38
razielle_tzugoing to make sure everything is as it should be for the 12th :DJul 22 12:38
cubexyzwell a practise run is probably a good ideaJul 22 12:38
razielle_tzupity i don't have some of the hardware for it to demo other uses, like a wildlife camera or a programmable robotJul 22 12:38
razielle_tzui'll just have to make do with slides and websites about other uses and just show the different OSes and uses that can be done with it as a "standard" computerJul 22 12:40
cubexyzI guess you know there's a raspberry pi 3 now?Jul 22 12:42
razielle_tzui doJul 22 12:42
cubexyzsame connectors as the 2Jul 22 12:42
razielle_tzuand i can't decide which model(s) i want to get to replace the B+ i haveJul 22 12:43
cubexyzopenbsd is conspicuously absent from the list of operating systems for the raspberry piJul 22 12:51
razielle_tzuyeah and yet freebsd is listed in a few placesJul 22 12:51
razielle_tzubleh, two different formats and still mismatching free space reportsJul 22 12:58
razielle_tzui think that SD card is only good for my camerasJul 22 12:58
cubexyzhmmm, well the driver must support the cardJul 22 12:59
cubexyzon zaurus I refer to a special list of cards I know will work with the bog standard driverJul 22 13:00
razielle_tzuit starts loading fine but doesn't get past the resizing FAT stuff, the other microsd card using the same adaptor loads RISC with no problemsJul 22 13:00
razielle_tzugoing to try NOOBS on a standard SD card instead of one of my microsJul 22 13:01
cubexyzsee, some of the openbsd folks consider it important to defend traditional unixJul 22 13:04
cubexyzthey don't care for systemd and udevJul 22 13:05
cubexyzand I like the no binary blobs philosophyJul 22 13:05
cubexyzbut I'm no zealot, I use slack and FC1 and a ton of other thingsJul 22 13:06
cubexyzI think FC1 is actually pre-udev and of course it's pre-systemdJul 22 13:07
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 13:14
razielle_tzufor now i've given up on the pi... the sd card i wanted to try keeps getting mounted read only so i can't copy all of noobs across to it and without being able to do that it won't bootJul 22 13:14
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cubexyzmaybe try....mount -o rw,remount /whatever Jul 22 13:15
cubexyzI think sandisk may make the best sd cardsJul 22 13:16
razielle_tzui will do later when i'm not so frustrated with it, or i can try the microsd card that has risc on itJul 22 13:17
cubexyzsamsung evo is also supposed to be quite good for the piJul 22 13:18
razielle_tzuso i've heardJul 22 13:19
razielle_tzugoing to try this final card and if it doesn't work i'm giving up completely for a few hoursJul 22 13:19
razielle_tzuand going back to looking into that PXE setup i was thinking aboutJul 22 13:19
cubexyzmy streamer's storage is woefully inadequateJul 22 13:20
cubexyzjust a 4gb hard driveJul 22 13:20
cubexyzmanual is near uselessJul 22 13:21
razielle_tzui have a 16GB usb drive and two 1TB externals i could use for my pi as a media centre... but i can also map them from my linux machine so i don't need to worry about power draw on the pi itself :)Jul 22 13:21
cubexyzI wonder if android updates itselfJul 22 13:22
cubexyzI have a feeling it doesn'tJul 22 13:23
razielle_tzuprobably not, not past a certain upgrade anywayJul 22 13:23
razielle_tzuhmm.. got noobs working but the only option i had was raspbian, this seems wrong somehowJul 22 13:28
razielle_tzuoh, they changed it to only include raspbian a while back unless you use network installs :/Jul 22 13:29
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razielle_tzuhmm... pi 3 plus hardware or the vega+ (zx emulator wtih lots of games)...Jul 22 14:02
razielle_tzuthis is my choice of gift to receive for my birthdayJul 22 14:02
cubexyzI'm thinking more along the lines of a nice FPGA board... but it's an indulgenceJul 22 14:11
razielle_tzutbh there's not much hardware available for the pi 3 yet so i'm more likely to go for a pi 2 plus some gear if i don't go for the vega+Jul 22 14:12
cubexyzno minimig? :)Jul 22 14:13
razielle_tzuhehJul 22 14:13
razielle_tzuall of the kits i've seen so far are only updated as far as the pi 2 :/Jul 22 14:13
razielle_tzuthe vega+ is a zx handheld emulator that supports games/software from both versions and almost the entire library is free now :DJul 22 14:14
razielle_tzuif you can do it right you can even port your own code to itJul 22 14:14
razielle_tzuhttp://retrocomputerslimited.com/vega-plus/Jul 22 14:16
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cubexyzbut is that the same as the ZX81?Jul 22 14:17
cubexyzmaybe it's more advancedJul 22 14:19
razielle_tzuit's a complete reworking that is supported by Sinclair himselfJul 22 14:21
razielle_tzudesigned and developed by a former ZX game designer and the guy who designed the ZX80, ZX81, ZX Spectrum and QL computersJul 22 14:23
cubexyzit would be hard for me to go back to 8-bitJul 22 14:27
razielle_tzuit wouldn't for me, i still have a spectrum and sometimes play some of the old games on it.. well i did when i could get an mp3 player to work as the audio input for loading anywayJul 22 14:29
cubexyzI'll go back to the PDP-11/20 instead :)Jul 22 14:35
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 14:37
razielle_tzuwith the right gear i could make my own zx emulator from a pi...Jul 22 14:37
cubexyzsureJul 22 14:38
cubexyzor any of your desktops for that matterJul 22 14:39
razielle_tzui was thinking more handheldJul 22 14:39
razielle_tzulike a TFT screen with one of the joystick HATs and a battery packJul 22 14:39
cubexyzsee, I'd want to write programs for it then I'd have the keyboard problemJul 22 14:43
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 14:43
cubexyzI had a hand held Linux ... the zaurusJul 22 14:44
cubexyzit had this super tiny keyboard thing Jul 22 14:44
razielle_tzui figured write them in an emu on my desktop or laptop and then port them over once done and testedJul 22 14:44
razielle_tzuwhich model zaurus?Jul 22 14:45
cubexyzSL-5500Jul 22 14:46
razielle_tzuyeah that has a tiny keyboardJul 22 14:46
cubexyzit was cheap but it wasn't ideal for my purposesJul 22 14:46
razielle_tzui wouldn't say $350 now is cheap though :PJul 22 14:46
cubexyzI got it on ebay for $40Jul 22 14:47
razielle_tzuah fairJul 22 14:47
razielle_tzucheapest i see on amazon right now is $98 and the most expensive for a supposedly brand new one is $350Jul 22 14:47
razielle_tzuand one refurb for $199Jul 22 14:47
cubexyzthere's a CL-C3000 for $109 buy it now :)Jul 22 14:49
razielle_tzui think i'll get killed if i buy more things i'm not likely to use that often ;)Jul 22 14:49
cubexyzI should have tried scp on the zaurusJul 22 14:50
cubexyzcan't remember if there was scp for itJul 22 14:50
cubexyzbut it wasn't a bad linux boxJul 22 14:51
cubexyzvery tiny LCD Jul 22 14:52
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 14:52
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cubexyzI'm quite pleased with my porting to unix v5Jul 22 15:02
razielle_tzui would be too tbhJul 22 15:03
cubexyzthe funny thing is.. the assembly language code is the easiest to portJul 22 15:04
cubexyzit never changed like c language didJul 22 15:04
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 15:04
cubexyzprobably the closest I've ever come to completely understanding an OSJul 22 15:05
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razielle_tzui think you'd get on great with a friend of mine in another channel, she's porting a minimac (or something along those lines) emulator to the 3DSJul 22 15:06
razielle_tzushe's working on the GUI for it nowJul 22 15:06
cubexyzthe nintendo thing?Jul 22 15:08
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:08
cubexyza bit of a strange project wouldn't you say? :)Jul 22 15:09
cubexyzok, my projects are strange, but I use a real keyboardJul 22 15:09
razielle_tzuit is but she loves early apple stuff (for some reason) and this is the first project that has held her attention in a whileJul 22 15:09
razielle_tzushe does all the work on a computer and then ports and tests it on her 3DSJul 22 15:09
cubexyzdoes the 3ds have a usb port?Jul 22 15:10
razielle_tzui'm not sureJul 22 15:10
razielle_tzuit does have usb charging but i'm not sure about other supportJul 22 15:11
cubexyzoh I think there's some form of wireless keyboard for the 3ds, that explains a lotJul 22 15:11
cubexyzthere was another oddball project involving ummm simhJul 22 15:12
razielle_tzushe's looking to use just the native hardware though, once it is finished anywayJul 22 15:12
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cubexyzwell reuse is importantJul 22 15:13
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:14
cubexyzoh yeah now I remember....Jul 22 15:14
cubexyzsomebody used a game boy advance to run simh :)Jul 22 15:14
razielle_tzucool, strange but coolJul 22 15:15
cubexyzwhat I do makes a bit more senseJul 22 15:16
cubexyzI made my own Unix v5 distro, but I'm not going to put it on a video game thingJul 22 15:17
razielle_tzui wouldn't either tbfJul 22 15:17
cubexyzand I had a good reason tooJul 22 15:17
razielle_tzuat the same time though it teaches her a few things she wouldn't learn without a project like thisJul 22 15:17
cubexyzUnix v5 is the oldest working Unix that I would consider useableJul 22 15:18
cubexyzthe oldest most elegant, most compact systemJul 22 15:18
razielle_tzudefinitely, from what i've seen/read on it anywayJul 22 15:18
cubexyzyou must use the lowest level C function calls, so that's a learning eperience in itselfJul 22 15:19
cubexyzthere's really two big botch-ups in Unix history...Jul 22 15:20
cubexyzthe original botch-up:Jul 22 15:20
cubexyzUnix v6 was not allowed (after a certain date) to be modified outside of bell labsJul 22 15:21
cubexyzbotch-up number two:Jul 22 15:21
cubexyzbarely anyone switched to Unix/Linux in 1994Jul 22 15:21
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:22
cubexyzbut even worse... I didn't manage it myselfJul 22 15:23
razielle_tzua few people have said i should learn to make my own OS... my usual response is, i can make my own linux distro but that's about it right nowJul 22 15:24
cubexyzgee, why stop there :)Jul 22 15:24
cubexyzbuild your own computer from stratch firstJul 22 15:24
cubexyzscratchJul 22 15:24
razielle_tzuwell it's not really making my own distro, it's following LFS or using a studio to put one together. i probably could with enough time and materials tbhJul 22 15:25
razielle_tzugive me enough valves and pipes and i can throw together one that runs on water ;)Jul 22 15:27
cubexyzsee, the thing is a modern Linux is really the aggregation of a ton of different thingsJul 22 15:29
cubexyzreally it's too much for one person to write it allJul 22 15:30
razielle_tzujust a bitJul 22 15:30
cubexyznow you could write a simple OS, but then what? would you add tcp/ip capability, text processing, multi-user, multi-tasking?Jul 22 15:30
razielle_tzupeople would want everything but do you add it as an actual part of the kernel or as modules so the advanced users can pick and choose what to load?Jul 22 15:32
cubexyzwell I kind of do that in reverse...Jul 22 15:34
cubexyzI unload modules I don't useJul 22 15:34
razielle_tzuwith most distros it's the only way to do it now, almost everything seems to be loaded by defaultJul 22 15:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rabite/status/756496912988180481Jul 22 15:38
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cubexyzbaseline Unix v5 was pretty barrenJul 22 15:46
cubexyzI had to do a ton of work to get it to a decent stateJul 22 15:47
razielle_tzuyeah but you didJul 22 15:47
cubexyzthere was rk (disk drive), tm (magtape), tc (dectape) and 8dc (dc-11 communications interface)Jul 22 15:49
cubexyzthen the trap vectors and the config table :)Jul 22 15:50
cubexyzso at least I knew what file did whatJul 22 15:50
cubexyzthen I studied the icode... the octal bootstrap program that brings up the systemJul 22 15:51
cubexyzso added the device drivers I needed, compiled the kernel, ported all the utilities I wantedJul 22 15:53
razielle_tzuthat's cool and i'd love to check it out now that i'm running nothing but linux. maybe some other time though when my meds have settled and i can focus a little moreJul 22 15:54
cubexyzrebuild libc.a too, it was missing some functions it should have hadJul 22 15:58
cubexyzthe baseline starting point... the files I started with are in uv5swre.zipJul 22 16:00
cubexyzdid I give the new distro out or not?Jul 22 16:01
razielle_tzui don't rememberJul 22 16:02
cubexyzoh yeah I did actually :)Jul 22 16:03
cubexyznot the newest one thoughJul 22 16:03
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5-feb-2015.tar.gzJul 22 16:04
cubexyzanyways, I'm not done with it yetJul 22 16:05
razielle_tzudownloading for later :)Jul 22 16:05
cubexyzplease doJul 22 16:05
razielle_tzuit just finished downloading :)Jul 22 16:05
cubexyzhaven't finished all the man pages yetJul 22 16:06
razielle_tzufair enoughJul 22 16:06
cubexyzbut the readme file should be a decent starting pointJul 22 16:06
razielle_tzui'm also looking at your FOSS-matrixJul 22 16:06
razielle_tzui already use most, if not all, of the suggested stuff in place of the stuff you suggest avoiding :PJul 22 16:08
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razielle_tzuhmm.. tried to call the .sh from my terminal and it closes because ~/simh/PDP11/v5-org doesn't existJul 22 16:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756506717488308225Jul 22 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Markt&Technik, the book & magazine publisher I worked with in the '80s, was based in Haar. Not too bad trafficwise, actually.Jul 22 16:13
razielle_tzualso the commands on lines 6 and 7 aren't foundJul 22 16:13
schestowitzComments mostly spoke about lack of hotels in that areas. I guess whatever makes it less convenient will help scuttle them faster.Jul 22 16:13
cubexyzyeah you'll need conv2Jul 22 16:14
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/conv2.cJul 22 16:15
razielle_tzuwhat about the pdp11 stuff? that was another command not foundJul 22 16:15
cubexyzok, you also need simh itself for the magic to happen :)Jul 22 16:15
razielle_tzuokJul 22 16:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756507843012993024Jul 22 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz When driving on the main street there, Wasserburger Landstraße, one hardly even notices the city border. Like a part of Munich.Jul 22 16:16
schestowitzbased on the map I saw, 10km away from Munich's centreJul 22 16:16
cubexyzit's not even that bigJul 22 16:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/simv38-1.zipJul 22 16:17
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/simhv38-1.zipJul 22 16:17
cubexyzthere might be a package thing for it, but I compiled it from sourceJul 22 16:17
razielle_tzui'll check for a package before compiling from source, might need to set a dev env up anywayJul 22 16:18
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razielle_tzuooo the simh package has 33 emulators in itJul 22 16:19
cubexyzthere's a bunch of neat stuff in there... interdata, ibm 1130, vax alsoJul 22 16:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756508621287067648Jul 22 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That's about right. You might want to compare that to the distance between the airport and the city center :-)Jul 22 16:19
schestowitzIn my article I even linked to the map (see under summary)Jul 22 16:20
razielle_tzuyeah the only one they couldn't include the microcode for is the DEC VAXJul 22 16:20
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cubexyzyeah now I remember... on openbsd you could just "pkg_add simh"Jul 22 16:23
razielle_tzuapt-get install for me, i'm on mintJul 22 16:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756509535133638656Jul 22 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Lawyers who go to the appeals board meetings are often based in Munich anyway. If they're not, they'll just stay downtown.Jul 22 16:25
schestowitzI spoke to some who had to travel themselves for the appeals (from the UK)Jul 22 16:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756511392556089344  https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756511988252016640 Jul 22 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz On such a trip it doesn't really matter whether someone needs a 20- or may be 30-euro cab ride from downtown Munich to Haar.Jul 22 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Battistelli's original idea of relocating them to Vienna, Berlin or whatever was so much worse that Haar is like a concession.Jul 22 16:32
schestowitzYes, I mentioned that, but still... I think the long-term plan is to rent some temporary space there until UPCJul 22 16:32
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cubexyzI think I put the qmc stuff in /usr/local/qmcJul 22 16:33
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cubexyzlet's see.. additions include: clear, file, nl (number), reset, fold, head, tail, pg, df (modified), ls1 (columnar ls) Jul 22 16:35
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 22 19:19
razielle_tzuo/Jul 22 19:20
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJul 22 19:21
razielle_tzuhow are you?Jul 22 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HDok you?Jul 22 19:21
razielle_tzupretty goodJul 22 19:22
razielle_tzuoh yeah cubexyz i worked out what was wrong with that sd card, it wasn't formatting properly so i had to use a different computer to sort it out, everything is sorted nowJul 22 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, that was fun a litle while ago,  was reading  load of comments to some article,  the debate if a tablet/phone for most people can replace a computer or not for most things etcJul 22 19:24
razielle_tzuit can but it's not always a good idea depending on the workJul 22 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah, but foor basics a tablet is greatJul 22 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen you want more specifc things still a computerJul 22 19:25
razielle_tzuwhich is the point i was trying to make beforeJul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu convergence is intresting for exampleJul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I think that right there could be intersing to show at an event Jul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDyes those people may not just buy a device, but to get the idea it's there etc coming Jul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDand how easy it to have Ubuntu in this case on a tabletJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDeasier than a non techi trying to put it on a computerJul 22 19:27
razielle_tzui would look into it more if i had the hardware to run it on but i don't and i'm more interested in pi projects and the Vega+Jul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDoh you have seen the Vega+ as well as have IJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDI didn't have the money to crowd fund the spare money back in MarchJul 22 19:27
razielle_tzui'm getting one for my birthdayJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HD,but can still buy the retial version via indiegogo it seemsJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDthe black versiionJul 22 19:27
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDlooks intereesting yes, for old spectrum gamesJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDmaybe my chinese android device can emulate them to not sueJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDgaming deviceJul 22 19:28
razielle_tzuanything you can run on a spectrum CAN be ported to it, not just the gamesJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat to android ?Jul 22 19:29
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen is your birthday as well ?Jul 22 19:29
SebthreeBQM10HDmine is coming up rather soonJul 22 19:29
razielle_tzuoctoberJul 22 19:30
razielle_tzuand no i mean to the Vega+Jul 22 19:31
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, sometimes get issues with this tablet and bluettooh keyboard and the irc client in libertine xchat gnomeJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDwhere can't type suddenlyJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDnot sure whyJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDback now though after a re bootJul 22 19:34
razielle_tzufair enoughJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDmy birthday is next weekJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah the vega+ seemed interetig Jul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDloadsd of old game legally as wellJul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDand yeahJul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, when you find out about that ?Jul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDdid you crowd fund or?Jul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDthey had a previous one last year as wellJul 22 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I got that to pre order and a chinese device as well next monthJul 22 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDreallyJul 22 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor whateverJul 22 19:37
razielle_tzubrb, eatingJul 22 19:38
SebthreeBQM10HDokJul 22 19:38
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razielle_tzumy fiancee heard about it, she gets a few crowd funding newsletters and asked what i thought about itJul 22 19:41
cubexyzok, I updated Unix v5a to latest and greatestJul 22 19:42
razielle_tzui had a look and said i wanted one so she's ordering one when her student finance comes in for the new yearJul 22 19:42
razielle_tzucool cubexyzJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDoh crowd funding news letters such as?Jul 22 19:42
razielle_tzuones from indiegogo and kickstarter mostlyJul 22 19:42
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5a-jul-22-2016.tar.gzJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I guess thre's a mailing list for thoseJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDnot on them thoughJul 22 19:43
SebthreeBQM10HDshould probably be reallyJul 22 19:43
razielle_tzucubexyz: bit of a date gap between the two isn't there?Jul 22 19:43
cubexyzyeah it was time for an update :)Jul 22 19:44
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 19:44
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, ok pm me now I got a question Jul 22 19:44
razielle_tzuover a year :PJul 22 19:44
cubexyzthis version has a lot of good ideas insideJul 22 19:46
razielle_tzucoolJul 22 19:46
razielle_tzui'[ll take a look soon]Jul 22 19:46
cubexyzcan't remember all the differencesJul 22 19:47
razielle_tzui'm sure i'll come across themJul 22 19:48
cubexyzthere's hangman, tic tac toe, moo, blackjack, factor, primes plus a bunch of other stuff I've forgottenJul 22 19:48
razielle_tzuawesomeJul 22 19:48
cubexyzword1 spits out a random word from the dictionary (yes Unix v5 had a dictionary)Jul 22 19:49
razielle_tzuxDJul 22 19:49
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz, you old dude, Unix uhmm, it's mostly about Linux now :DJul 22 19:50
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh hehJul 22 19:50
SebthreeBQM10HDnot your Fedora Core 1 though, that's to old :DJul 22 19:50
razielle_tzuunix rocks, you should learn itJul 22 19:51
SebthreeBQM10HDUni is old skool except for BSDJul 22 19:51
SebthreeBQM10HDUnixJul 22 19:51
cubexyzwell I hear folks still learn history in schoolJul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDnot tech history thoughJul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDor hardlyJul 22 19:52
cubexyzyou didn't learn about Babbage or ENIAC?Jul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDbabbge maybe to some extentJul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDother one I don't think soJul 22 19:52
razielle_tzui learned bothJul 22 19:53
cubexyzfirst electronic general purpose computer... very significantJul 22 19:53
razielle_tzuvery is an understatementJul 22 19:53
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cubexyzI actually do play hangman on v5 sometimesJul 22 19:58
cubexyzthat was from qmcJul 22 19:58
cubexyzthat's why there's two different ar commandsJul 22 19:58
cubexyzthe original ar plus ar-newJul 22 19:58
cubexyzhad to use ar-new to unarchived the qmc stuffJul 22 19:59
razielle_tzufairJul 22 20:00
cubexyzit's y2k ready tooJul 22 20:04
cubexyzthe original date, ls, sh and who were renamed to date.old, ls.old, etcJul 22 20:05
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cubexyzed had a 128K filesize limit...but... none of the original files were that bigJul 22 20:18
cubexyzand v5 doesn't really have a dictionary... it's merely a wordlistJul 22 20:20
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SebthreeBQM10HDback typing issues thingey againJul 22 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HDa diffenret one though or whateverJul 22 20:21
cubexyzspell sh will print out all the words starting with shJul 22 20:21
cubexyzso it's a spelling aidJul 22 20:22
razielle_tzu:DJul 22 20:24
cubexyzin modern linux you would do:Jul 22 20:30
cubexyzcat /usr/share/dict/words | grep ^shJul 22 20:30
cubexyzah, same for bsd I would thinkJul 22 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, woo get to leave the country for a bit next month :dJul 22 20:37
razielle_tzucoolJul 22 20:37
SebthreeBQM10HD Canada here  I come to kill cubexyz oh yeah!Jul 22 20:39
razielle_tzuo.OJul 22 20:39
razielle_tzunoJul 22 20:39
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah he's getting to oldJul 22 20:40
razielle_tzunoJul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDit's time to kill him off :dJul 22 20:40
razielle_tzuwho else is going to maintain v5 though?Jul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDyouJul 22 20:40
razielle_tzui can't do it yetJul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDneed the young onesJul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDto take overJul 22 20:40
cubexyzthe original unix dudes are dying off, it's me or nothing :)Jul 22 20:41
razielle_tzui'll help when i've learned a bit moreJul 22 20:41
razielle_tzu:DJul 22 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I am actually going out of the country for real, but luckily for cubexyz not to track him down etc, or am I :dJul 22 20:41
razielle_tzulolJul 22 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, looks like my Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu phone is going to that country again and a new device as wellJul 22 20:42
razielle_tzufairJul 22 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but it came from Hong Kong directly, maybe that gaming tablet has a  hidden bomb in it or somethingJul 22 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HD:dJul 22 20:43
cubexyzI thought Unix v5 was a lot more fun than LFSJul 22 20:44
razielle_tzui didn't like LFSJul 22 20:44
razielle_tzudunno whyJul 22 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HDwhy notJul 22 20:44
razielle_tzuit was a few years ago that i tried it, can't remember what i didn't like or why i got rid of it once i was doneJul 22 20:45
cubexyzrote learning is rarely funJul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDyou bad nerd geek you!Jul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Jul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDhow dare you get rid of LFS like that :DJul 22 20:46
razielle_tzui'll do what i wantJul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDand you call yourself an arch user as well :DJul 22 20:46
razielle_tzulolJul 22 20:46
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razielle_tzui have it on three laptops, each configured differentlyJul 22 20:47
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SebthreeBQM10HDput some Gentoo on there right now razielle_tzu :Jul 22 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HDdJul 22 20:47
razielle_tzunoJul 22 20:47
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SebthreeBQM10HDor fedora core 1 to attract cubexyz more properly :dJul 22 20:47
razielle_tzucubexyz: share your install and current patch set?Jul 22 20:47
cubexyzfor what? FC1?Jul 22 20:48
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HDactuallly yeah that could be somethingJul 22 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat security updates he did etcJul 22 20:48
cubexyzthere's no patch set :)Jul 22 20:48
cubexyzthere's 12 years of modificationsJul 22 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HDccJul 22 20:49
*razielle_tzu was joking but... you know ;)Jul 22 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz,  are you using that now, or old unix?Jul 22 20:49
cubexyzhahahaJul 22 20:50
cubexyzyou can't tell?Jul 22 20:50
razielle_tzulolJul 22 20:50
cubexyzif I was on Unix v5 now I would be world famous Jul 22 20:50
razielle_tzujust a littleJul 22 20:50
razielle_tzuthat would be a fun port thoughJul 22 20:51
SebthreeBQM10HDI am not geek enough to now about v5Jul 22 20:51
razielle_tzuirssi or something for v5Jul 22 20:51
cubexyzwhere do I even start? there's no ethernet driver or any form of tcp/ip in v5Jul 22 20:51
SebthreeBQM10HDoh ok so loike windows 3.1Jul 22 20:51
razielle_tzucubexyz: it's ok, we're apparently hacker enough for thisJul 22 20:52
cubexyzI can IRC from quasijarus which is a 4.3BSD derivativeJul 22 20:53
cubexyzthat's microvax, not PDP-11Jul 22 20:54
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 20:54
cubexyzthere's ummm... there's ethernet for PDP-11 in theoryJul 22 20:55
cubexyzbut certainly no IRC clientJul 22 20:55
razielle_tzunot yet ;)Jul 22 20:55
razielle_tzui believe in you cubexyzJul 22 20:55
razielle_tzuyou can do itJul 22 20:55
cubexyzgood grief the hardware didn't even exist back then for ethernetJul 22 20:59
cubexyz1974?Jul 22 20:59
razielle_tzu74-75, yeah no ethernetJul 22 20:59
cubexyzso obviously no v5 era driver eitherJul 22 21:00
cubexyzno, that would be too crazy a projectJul 22 21:00
razielle_tzuit would on reflection be kinda crazyJul 22 21:00
cubexyzyes :)Jul 22 21:01
cubexyzin 1974 there was RS232 communicationsJul 22 21:01
razielle_tzui should set icaros up again on either a laptop or a vm and see what i can port or just use from my old floppy imagesJul 22 21:02
razielle_tzuRS232 ins't really suitable for irc thoughJul 22 21:04
cubexyzIRC appeared much later in 1988Jul 22 21:07
cubexyzso 4.3BSD-Tahoe era or SunOS Jul 22 21:07
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 21:07
cubexyzFC1 isn't even the oldest Linux I runJul 22 21:08
cubexyzbut it's the oldest Linux I do actual work onJul 22 21:09
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 21:09
cubexyzDEC messed up big-timeJul 22 21:12
cubexyzand XeroxJul 22 21:12
razielle_tzuwhich time(s)?Jul 22 21:12
cubexyzIBM beat DEC to market with a useable Personal Computer in 1981Jul 22 21:13
razielle_tzuwhich is why the format of pc most people know used to be called an ibm cloneJul 22 21:14
cubexyzXerox had the Alto in 1973, and the excellent Star 8010 in... 1981...but...Jul 22 21:14
cubexyzthe problem was the Star cost $16KJul 22 21:14
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 21:14
cubexyzthe IBM PC was originally priced at $1500 or soJul 22 21:15
razielle_tzudidn't apple and ms bite from the xerox machines for their guis and a couple of other things?Jul 22 21:15
cubexyzit still sucked though, compared to a PDP-11Jul 22 21:15
cubexyzsure... Xerox employees went to work for AppleJul 22 21:16
cubexyzDEC sort of did have a IBM PC thingJul 22 21:17
cubexyzThe DEC Pro-300 seriesJul 22 21:17
cubexyzbut it didn't really take off like the IBM PC didJul 22 21:17
razielle_tzulike i said before, i know a little of the history of computers but nowhere near as much as i feel i should but most articles are so damn dry to readJul 22 21:18
cubexyzDEC even made 286's later onJul 22 21:19
cubexyzbut DEC was a true visionary... in the mini-eraJul 22 21:20
razielle_tzui just realised i have a 1983 print of Bishop's Comprehensive Computer Studies bookJul 22 21:20
cubexyzjust not in the microcomputer eraJul 22 21:20
cubexyzheck in 1983 I still saw CP/M computersJul 22 21:24
razielle_tzuyou will have doneJul 22 21:25
razielle_tzui knew that book waas old but i didn't realise it was 33 years old xDJul 22 21:27
razielle_tzuand most of the non-installation pics show female operators stillJul 22 21:27
razielle_tzuthat wouldn't happen in a book nowJul 22 21:28
cubexyzby 1983 the big computers were PDP-10 and IBM 4341'sJul 22 21:28
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 21:29
cubexyzyou probably wouldn't have liked those thoughJul 22 21:29
razielle_tzuoh?Jul 22 21:30
cubexyzVM/SP 3.1 was boring and utilitarianJul 22 21:31
razielle_tzua lot of the early computers were thoughJul 22 21:32
cubexyzgood for fast IO, printing out reports, doing transactions, blah blahJul 22 21:32
cubexyzboring :)Jul 22 21:32
razielle_tzunothing wrong with boring so long as you learn from it ;)Jul 22 21:34
cubexyzI thought some of the 1960s era computers were interestingJul 22 21:34
cubexyzbefore my time but interestingJul 22 21:35
razielle_tzumost things are before my time, still interesting though :PJul 22 21:35
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cubexyzhere's a screen capture of Ultrix and relatively early X11:Jul 22 21:38
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ultrix-vax-4.5-twm_1280x1024.pngJul 22 21:38
cubexyzdxpaintJul 22 21:39
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cubexyzaround 1995 or so I'd sayJul 22 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HDuh keyboard issuesJul 22 21:40
cubexyzdude, I think you need FC1 and soonJul 22 21:41
razielle_tzui know rightJul 22 21:41
razielle_tzuthe only dxpaint i really remember is Deluxe Paint III for the AmigaJul 22 21:41
razielle_tzuaround the same time as i was making music on OctamedJul 22 21:42
razielle_tzuthat was one of the first programs i used that had actual MIDI I/OJul 22 21:42
cubexyzyes, I had Deluxe Paint II for Amiga 500Jul 22 21:42
cubexyzseems pretty awesome at the timeJul 22 21:43
razielle_tzuit wasJul 22 21:43
razielle_tzuwe had plugins for making magic eye images from things we drewJul 22 21:43
razielle_tzuor from renders from real3d using screencapsJul 22 21:44
cubexyzI'd say DPII was better than dxpaint :)Jul 22 21:44
razielle_tzuDPII was greatJul 22 21:44
razielle_tzuit's one of the few things i don't have a copy of for my A600sJul 22 21:45
razielle_tzuno octamed eitherJul 22 21:45
razielle_tzubut i do have most of my fave gamesJul 22 21:45
razielle_tzumost of them are still boxed tooJul 22 21:46
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cubexyzUnix had one advantage... xbm was non-proprietaryJul 22 22:09
cubexyzthe older X11 programs used itJul 22 22:09
cubexyzsome of the early scanners outputed straight to pnmJul 22 22:11
razielle_tzuhuh, didn't know thatJul 22 22:12
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cubexyzwell I think the proper term was netppmJul 22 22:17
cubexyzI called it pnm, I forget whyJul 22 22:17
cubexyzthat might have been the older termJul 22 22:18
razielle_tzufairJul 22 22:20
cubexyzwell mogrify converted from what I called pnm to jpgJul 22 22:27
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SebthreeBQM10HD1 2 3 razielle_tzu]]Jul 22 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HD1 2 3 razielle_tzuJul 22 23:46
razielle_tzu'supJul 22 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDnm u?Jul 22 23:46
razielle_tzuwatching TMNTJul 22 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDwhats that?Jul 22 23:47
razielle_tzuteenage mutant ninja turtlesJul 22 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDoh rightJul 22 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how?Jul 22 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDand is that the new one or?Jul 22 23:49
razielle_tzuhow am i watching it? popcorntimeJul 22 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh you pirate you!Jul 22 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, apparnatly they stopped making that as well or something, I have heard of it, but not usedJul 22 23:50
razielle_tzui wasn't convinced about seeing it in the cinemaJul 22 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah some films aren't quite worth the effort of going to cinema to see reallyJul 22 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDespeically if on ownJul 22 23:50
razielle_tzu yeahJul 22 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDthe make comment just now was for the program by the wayJul 22 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDthe pirate softwareJul 22 23:51
*SebthreeBQM10HD piracy naughtye naughtey, bad girl guy thingJul 22 23:52
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu ^Jul 22 23:52
razielle_tzui've pirated stuff since i was a kid hawking floppies for the AMigaJul 22 23:52
SebthreeBQM10HDhawking ?Jul 22 23:52
razielle_tzuselling, buying, tradingJul 22 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh right okJul 22 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDbut naughtey naughteyJul 22 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, what do you think of old games that aren't sold anymore, so abandonware ?Jul 22 23:53
razielle_tzuthey should be available by whatever meansJul 22 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDthey are on certain thingsJul 22 23:54
SebthreeBQM10HDbut still copyrighted etcJul 22 23:54
razielle_tzuand definitely should be archived somewhereJul 22 23:54
SebthreeBQM10HDyou think perfectly ok or should be if not, to download them and play ?Jul 22 23:54
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 23:54
razielle_tzuit should be fineJul 22 23:54
SebthreeBQM10HDit's a bit of a grey area apparantly or I am not sure quiteJul 22 23:54
razielle_tzuit's a grey area unless you're a copyright lawyerJul 22 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat do you mean exactly?Jul 22 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDand indeed may as well have people still playing or emulating it to play etc, that really want to play itJul 22 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDstillJul 22 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDno longer sold after allJul 22 23:56
razielle_tzusoftware devs, archivists and other people that aren't lawyers tend to want stuff available. lawyers want to uphold the letter of the copyright law but not the spirit so abandonware should be abandoned as far as they are concernedJul 22 23:56
SebthreeBQM10HDthe letter?Jul 22 23:57
razielle_tzuyeah, what the law says, as it says it instead of any interpretationJul 22 23:57
razielle_tzuand it's stupidJul 22 23:57
SebthreeBQM10HDit says what?Jul 22 23:57
razielle_tzucopyright law states that even archive.org is breaking the law by archiving old software for use with emulators despite the fact that it's mostly outdated or abandoned software because the copyright is still in effectJul 22 23:58
SebthreeBQM10HDoh?Jul 22 23:59
razielle_tzulife of creator of the work plus 75 years is the term for the copyright in most casesJul 22 23:59
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razielle_tzuam i really discussing copyright law?Jul 23 00:00
razielle_tzuand why i think it's stupid when it comes to software?Jul 23 00:00
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 23 00:03
razielle_tzuwelcome backJul 23 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah pressed the wrong thing in hthis Jul 23 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDor whatever and uhJul 23 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yes the 75 years thing is silly  for gamesJul 23 00:04
razielle_tzuit doesn't just apply to games though, it applies to EVERYTHINGJul 23 00:05
SebthreeBQM10HDbut no one really cares like that or much about abanonware etc I expectJul 23 00:05
razielle_tzuall software, books, music, everythingJul 23 00:05
razielle_tzuyou'd be surprisedJul 23 00:05
SebthreeBQM10HDyep your  copyrighted toJul 23 00:05
razielle_tzuit makes it really difficult to create derivative works of anything without breaching copyrightJul 23 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDCreative Commons for the win :)Jul 23 00:06
razielle_tzuCC, GPL, BSD, MIT... all good licenses but they still have faultsJul 23 00:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756597151069769728Jul 23 00:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.7 Notebook Power Testing: Possible RegressionJul 23 00:13
TweetTuxMachines                 When Idling https://t.co/GfS1McMK6C (www.phoronix.com)Jul 23 00:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756610727448895488Jul 23 00:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Three Years Ago Today Ubuntu Made Its Biggest GambleJul 23 00:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QDou9lpMnv (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jul 23 00:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Three Years Ago Today Ubuntu Made Its Biggest Gamble - OMG! Ubuntu!Jul 23 00:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756634319674900480Jul 23 00:52
TweetTuxMachines                 KaOS 2016.07 https://t.co/93ItTupAgA (error)Jul 23 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 22/7/2016: Wine 1.9.15, KaOS 2016.07 ISOJul 23 01:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/756642939632226304Jul 23 01:16
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TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  https://t.co/8Cpi0q0MVL (techrights.org)Jul 23 03:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756661686895906816Jul 23 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/zvSYl4r1GJJul 23 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 03:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 23 03:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756661687629950976Jul 23 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 COM and Pico-ITX dev kit run Linux on dual-core Cortex-A7Jul 23 03:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HkMjFp2Ssm (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 03:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | COM and Pico-ITX dev kit run Linux on dual-core Cortex-A7 | Tux MachinesJul 23 03:35
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cubexyzyou're linking to a Matt Asay article? :-/Jul 23 12:02
cubexyzdon't worry about lock-in? really?Jul 23 12:04
cubexyzok, time to remove the tux games links since it's a gambling site now :-/Jul 23 12:10
cubexyza pityJul 23 12:11
cubexyzok, finally did a proper update to the Unix/Linux page:Jul 23 12:15
cubexyzhttp://cubeman.org/linux.htmlJul 23 12:15
cubexyzanti-lock argument... emulators is the easy counter exampleJul 23 12:16
cubexyzam I locked into using a PDP-11/70? No :)Jul 23 12:17
cubexyzok, so maybe lock-in isn't the biggest problemJul 23 12:20
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schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:36
schestowitzExcellent news, signs of disintegration/decayJul 23 13:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:37
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Jul 23 13:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Microsoft lays off remaining handful of Microsoft Press staff @schestowitz https://t.co/s9IKy6a0QaJul 23 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Microsoft lays off remaining handful of Microsoft Press staff | ZDNetJul 23 13:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756831194025758720Jul 23 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Well @schestowitz I didn't set out to do it to them. It's something that they did to themselves.Jul 23 13:40
schestowitzMade too many enemies, IMHO, realised it too late. Like Monsanto of software world... #microsoftJul 23 13:40
cubexyzDARPA funded Berkeley's Computer System Research Group (they liked 3BSD)Jul 23 13:48
cubexyz4BSD lead to csh, delivermail (antecedent of sendmail) and curses libraryJul 23 13:49
cubexyzthen later on 4.3BSD was released, but later ported to some 68000-based computersJul 23 13:51
cubexyzin 1994 4.4BSD-lite was released, contained no AT&T sourceJul 23 13:53
cubexyzwhat we have now, the NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD were derived from 4.4.BSD-lite R2Jul 23 13:54
cubexyzberkeley sockets was the API for internet communicationsJul 23 14:05
cubexyzwinsock was heavily based on berkeley socketsJul 23 14:06
schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/22/armageddon-approaches-paul-craig-roberts/Jul 23 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Armageddon Approaches -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.orgJul 23 14:10
schestowitzWeird takeJul 23 14:10
cubexyzok, missile bases in Romania... Trump as president...Jul 23 14:14
cubexyzthat does seem a bit concerningJul 23 14:14
*TweetTuxMachines @shaheeqa favourited 'Three Years Ago Today Ubuntu Made Its Biggest...'Jul 23 14:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756841506963492865Jul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching inJul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Q1 next year https://t.co/uaXeT1yrnPJul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching in Q1 next year | Tux MachinesJul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756854276786360321Jul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Hidden in Plain Sight, a local multiplayer game thatJul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 sounds hilarious is now on Linux https://t.co/COJdfO8ug3Jul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 23 15:55
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schestowitz[14:14] <cubexyz> ok, missile bases in Romania... Trump as president...Jul 23 15:56
schestowitzThey say they're defensive/interceptorsJul 23 15:56
schestowitzBut it's hard to tellJul 23 15:56
schestowitzthey can hide some nukes under the groundJul 23 15:56
schestowitzand use the launchers offensively thereJul 23 15:56
schestowitzor diffuse MAD at early launch phases while their own missiles (NATO) go on towards Russian targetsJul 23 15:57
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OneThe building reserved for the BoA is supposed to be in Vaterstetten, which is near Haar (hust a bit farther).Jul 23 17:24
OnejustJul 23 17:24
OneIf they are really going to move there I would regard it as a total waste of EPO money. A sign of further erdoganization of what was once a respectable European organization fallen prey today to the megalomaniac ambitions of a ruthless president.Jul 23 17:26
schestowitzHeyJul 23 17:28
schestowitzIs this confirmed?Jul 23 17:29
schestowitzwhat level of certainty?Jul 23 17:29
schestowitzhey, if PC is on house ban, does moving to another house mean he's allowed in?Jul 23 17:30
schestowitzI mean, irish-German, Iranian-German, armed Nazi and all...Jul 23 17:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/756895935972638720Jul 23 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Удаляйте Spotify https://t.co/KsVxhBDeZiJul 23 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Spotify will play ads based on your playlists https://t.co/pebl8DYdiI anybody shocked? Reject 'cloud' BS...Jul 23 18:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/756899063308705792Jul 23 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz methane has a much higher radiative effect then CO2.Jul 23 18:10
schestowitz"Tell us why this account should be verified. Limit 500 characters."Jul 23 18:32
schestowitzIn the past, or over the past decade, on at least 6 occasions, people impersonated this in order to demonise me.Jul 23 18:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/756899707398610944Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: #OpChemtrails @OpChemtrails #Earth's #Mantle heating up, global extreme weather https://t.co/vuARToz3WQ @schestowitz https://t.co/SU0f5Sluq7Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> SOTT Earth Changes Summary - June 2016: Extreme Weather, Planetary Upheaval, Meteor Fireballs -- Earth Changes -- Sott.netJul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now the proof: permafrost 'bubbles' are leaking #methane 200 times above the norm https://t.co/voEqqpzcl8 #siberia #russiaJul 23 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BurtonJony/status/756901373720031232Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BurtonJony: Your dad is fuming https://t.co/7fJaOBY0GIJul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #mufc as garments shop. Probably made at #bangladesh at 1% the cost of high street prices https://t.co/42U65elXrr association by uniform?Jul 23 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/756902760877023232Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @schestowitz Watch this with an open mind... 3 scenarios... the last ticks many boxes https://t.co/VTj2dVCAnOJul 23 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swardley/status/756902814794801152Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swardley: Oh, this is bad .... very bad -> https://t.co/6tlY1mS62jJul 23 18:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756865180647190528Jul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 "Adlink’s Linux-ready MXE-5500 fanless industrialJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 computer offers 6th Gen Core CPUs"Jul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HBIyHKMSJQ (hackerboards.com)Jul 23 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756866202820050944Jul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 7 Best Markdown Editors for Linux https://t.co/TxmNu5hjXhJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com)Jul 23 18:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 7 Best Markdown Editors for LinuxJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756866988463493120Jul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching inJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Q1 next year https://t.co/IDj4UZG22ZJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (timesofindia.indiatimes.com)Jul 23 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching in Q1 next year - Times of IndiaJul 23 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet CoupleJul 23 21:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet Couple | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756954871459377152Jul 23 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear: Should Manufacturers be Given More Freedom?Jul 23 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a2waOG1Ovl (www.androidheadlines.com)Jul 23 21:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 $99 Superdock turns Android phones into laptops — butJul 23 21:59
TweetTuxMachines                 why? https://t.co/j5RyusfFXO (mashable.com)Jul 23 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756956568441290753Jul 23 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Call for GNOME Asia Summit 2017 Host ProposalsJul 23 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Call for GNOME.Asia Summit 2017 Host Proposals – GNOMEJul 23 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756956857760112641Jul 23 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 First round of Fedora 24 Updated Lives now available.Jul 23 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (torrents expected later this week)Jul 23 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 BlackBerry Hamburg Android phone release date soon, FCCJul 23 22:51
TweetTuxMachines                 now https://t.co/WC55hdheYC (www.slashgear.com)Jul 23 22:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756964615083454464Jul 23 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 This smart shell can turn your Android smartphone into aJul 23 22:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | This smart shell can turn your Android smartphone into a complete laptop - Times of IndiaJul 23 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia set to make a comeback with two Android devicesJul 23 22:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet CoupleJul 23 23:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet Couple | Reviews | LinuxInsiderJul 23 23:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toutoulinux.free.fr | Toutou Linux - Distribution linux ultra lgreJul 23 23:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Living Dungeon developers looking to see if there's interest for a Linux version | GamingOnLinuxJul 23 23:02
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/754585920356179968Jul 17 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: And coincidentally with a self-induced coup in Turkey. https://t.co/muvbevHxHzJul 17 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: After a lot of pressure & gossip #obama had to release documents about Saudi regime's role in 9/11, released it late Friday on holiday weekJul 17 09:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KrisMcCallen/status/754595745378996224Jul 17 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrisMcCallen: @sfmnemonic @schestowitz @TelegraphNews worst pm ever. She is NOT for the peopleJul 17 09:57
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schestowitz> No, I hadn't heard of it. Just had a look. It seems to be stuck in 2013.Jul 17 10:40
schestowitz> Jul 17 10:40
schestowitz> FWIW, I'm a big fan of open-source - our patent attorney records areJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> managed using an open source system, and I regularly contribute toJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> debugging and developing it. But I also think that software should beJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> patentable in the same way as any other type of technical activity. TheJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> problem is that patent offices aren't up to the challenge of judgingJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> inventiveness when it comes to software. The prior art databases areJul 17 10:40
schestowitz> woefully inadequate, and the examiners are not knowledgeable enough (IJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> should know - I was one). So, clever patent attorneys were able to runJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> rings around the examiners, and applications were getting granted whichJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> shouldn't. Instead of investing in developing their prior art databases,Jul 17 10:41
schestowitz> and training new examiners, the patent offices chose to cheat by hidingJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> behind Art. 52(2)(c) EPCJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> <https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/epc/2013/e/ar52.html>Jul 17 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | Article 52 – Patentable inventions - The European Patent Convention, Convention on the Grant of European Patents – (European Patent Convention), Part II – Substantive patent law, Chapter I – PatentabilityJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> whenever possible. A new criterion of patentability was formed -Jul 17 10:41
schestowitz> "technical character", and a whole new examination approach graduallyJul 17 10:41
schestowitz> took root, based largely on assertions about what is and isn't technical.Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzYes, but taking this one step further:Jul 17 10:41
schestowitz Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzIf examiners cannot identify what software is novel as it moves forward too fast and so much of it exists...Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzHow can a software developer be aware of existing patents, work around them, etc.Jul 17 10:41
schestowitzThis is why, in practice, software patents are inadequate. There are other reasons.Jul 17 10:41
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2016-07-09Jul 17 10:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754603374201495555Jul 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Linux explained https://t.co/fadaj6GdQpJul 17 11:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 IBM Launches Blockchain Cloud Services On Linux ServerJul 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/uS5fUYrr1b (www.cryptocoinsnews.com)Jul 17 11:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cryptocoinsnews.com | IBM Launches Blockchain Cloud Services On Linux Server - CCN: Financial Bitcoin & Cryptocurrency NewsJul 17 11:16
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schestowitz> I'm not aware of any reason why software shouldn't be treated the sameJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> as other technical fields - apart from the practical difficulty ofJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> examining it. There are other technologies which move forward just asJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> fast, if not faster. What's missing is a decent set of tools forJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> assessing inventiveness. This would allow the inventiveness threshold toJul 17 11:26
schestowitz> be set high enough so that spurious applications would not get through.Jul 17 11:26
schestowitz> In theory, anyway...Jul 17 11:26
schestowitzDon't be offended by my question, but did you write computer programs? There is rarely something too innovative about them, unless they pertain some some specialised scientific discipline which is, in its own right, patentable.Jul 17 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754620708479610880Jul 17 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Blockchain on GNU/Linux https://t.co/JodB2dnGT6Jul 17 11:49
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 11:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @ReddBazaar retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain...'Jul 17 11:52
*TweetTuxMachines @BTCBitBot favourited 'Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux, Blockchain...'Jul 17 11:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7619005Jul 17 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?Jul 17 11:55
schestowitz"hit us bushie one more time"Jul 17 11:55
schestowitzshock and awesomeness..Jul 17 11:55
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts  Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/a77fkdxgstJul 17 12:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 17 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Devices https://t.co/EREEEBcfOqJul 17 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Development News https://t.co/pYE7rHhNkZJul 17 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754641325174075392Jul 17 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/QWu0s2PxHYJul 17 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/1bPUvgOJLMJul 17 15:43
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schestowitzResearcher-: you showed up and remained idle for two weeks now in all our channelsJul 17 18:44
schestowitzwho are you researching for?Jul 17 18:44
schestowitzbecause it feels like this is the behavious one might expect from a spy, not a researcherJul 17 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/SemprePhi/status/754710663059079168Jul 17 18:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 17/7/2016: Lithuanian Police Switches to GNU/Linux,Jul 17 18:51
TweetTuxMachines @SemprePhi      Blockchain on LinuxONE https://t.co/y6DiBdCuogJul 17 18:51
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schestowitzusefulJul 17 19:53
schestowitzas this related to EPOJul 17 19:53
MinceRhow?Jul 17 19:54
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TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That’s Known About theJul 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia’s Secret Upcoming Phone https://t.co/CvyDrJIbGiJul 17 21:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754772583472590848Jul 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft’s Windows RT security patch also stops you fromJul 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 loading Linux  https://t.co/Yq99M8sTZH (liliputing.com)Jul 17 21:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754772773201932288Jul 17 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia P1 Android smartphone: All That’s Known About theJul 17 21:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Nokia’s Secret Upcoming Phone https://t.co/uNmJLmH6slJul 17 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754778743374221312Jul 17 21:51
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated https://t.co/5AeV7ZtzHjJul 17 21:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 FreeType 2.7 Bringing DirectWrite/ClearType-LikeJul 17 21:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Rendering -- Much Better Looking Fonts On LinuxJul 17 21:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aeXf9AovYo (www.phoronix.com)Jul 17 21:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Extraction support in NautilusJul 17 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 Undertale now available for SteamOS & Linux and it's onJul 17 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 sale https://t.co/XNgwWZQL7L (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 17 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 Lovecraftian Horror Game "Conarium" Confirmed For LinuxJul 17 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 How to Install openSUSE Tumbleweed on Acer Chromebook 15Jul 17 22:07
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TweetTuxMachines                 GIMP and LibreOffice on Ubuntu PhoneJul 17 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GIMP and LibreOffice on Ubuntu Phone - YouTubeJul 17 22:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754785025787326464Jul 17 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus 1.2.1 Releases Tomorrow https://t.co/OrexycvfRnJul 17 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (solus-project.com)Jul 17 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754785980515753984Jul 17 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 "The Linux networking stack has a limit on how manyJul 17 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 packets per second it can handle."Jul 17 22:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XH4A7xDbaR (blog.cloudflare.com)Jul 17 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lovecraftian Horror Game "Conarium" Confirmed For Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 17 22:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795881199570944Jul 17 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated https://t.co/PEw2s24H0zJul 17 22:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 22:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMediaVault 3.0 Beta Updated | Tux MachinesJul 17 22:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795881920995328Jul 17 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/gJDqFPgAfJJul 17 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 22:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 17 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795883435130880Jul 17 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Notes and Blurbs https://t.co/4fcPTAVaMkJul 17 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 17 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754795882701205504Jul 17 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 CentOS 7 - Daily papercut fixes https://t.co/RxRqUv8eEQJul 17 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/fabiocs/status/754796799907467264Jul 17 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs        (www.dedoimedo.com)Jul 17 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754798929028481024Jul 17 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 What you need to know about Android 'Nougat'Jul 17 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/hetvgGnZze (www.12news.com)Jul 17 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What you need to know about Android 'Nougat' | 12NEWS.comJul 17 23:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754799855294353408Jul 17 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat adds SDN support to latest cloud managementJul 17 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 platform https://t.co/ZeddCrS5TZ (www.networksasia.net)Jul 17 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networksasia.net | Red Hat adds SDN support to latest cloud management platform | Networks Asia | Asia's Source for Enterprise Network KnowledgeJul 17 23:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754800547388067840Jul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Analysts Are Expecting this Stock to Rise: Red Hat, Inc.Jul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (NYSE:RHT) https://t.co/qJUIPyKd82 (telanaganapress.com)Jul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines Jul 18 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telanaganapress.com | Analysts Are Expecting this Stock to Rise: Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE:RHT) | Telanagana PressJul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754820397669969920Jul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/nSes09yhJxJul 18 00:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/754821118272372736Jul 18 01:03
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/nSes09yhJxJul 18 01:03
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 01:03
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/754956575765241858Jul 18 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz BTW, thx 4 sharing Seattle GNU/Linux Conf https://t.co/DxHJqpkoms pondering on showcasing #Reiser4 ;-) https://t.co/G6QO8mYyl3Jul 18 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> alg0rhythm.livejournal.com | Submit presentations for Seattle GNU/Linux Conference - Socratic ThinkingJul 18 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DebianBug: New bug: 831286 - #installation-reports - installation-reports: Reiser4 (SFRN 4.0.1) linux-image-4.6.0-1+reiser4.... https://t.co/Ki0AdbkbhkJul 18 09:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754942519494971393Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux https://t.co/ng5VeRfcRDJul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Jul 18 09:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux • The RegisterJul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754948572332777472Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux https://t.co/oKqhLxI9CaJul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 09:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel's SGX tiptoes towards Linux | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754952681022783489Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Lite 3.0  https://t.co/4M06L4uIzT (error)Jul 18 09:55
TweetTuxMachines Jul 18 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Jul 18 09:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754962676401446912Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft blocks Linux installationsJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ulJUq72qTi (www.techeye.net)Jul 18 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techeye.net | Microsoft blocks Linux installations – TechEyeJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754979862989897728Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3brYLBdW9t (techrights.org)Jul 18 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989210512134144Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989211430719488Jul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/CghX3cvabfJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989212332531712Jul 18 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/h4HxugHdqDJul 18 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/754989213095829504Jul 18 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora News https://t.co/yAJb7GKn0d (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:41
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razielle_tzuwhat's it for?Jul 18 16:28
cubexyzah, I was looking for a calendar program... but it's more than that... Jul 18 16:29
cubexyza bit like korganizer but not as bloatedJul 18 16:29
razielle_tzuoh coolJul 18 16:30
cubexyzevidently Osmo is a common finnish first nameJul 18 16:36
razielle_tzuyeahJul 18 16:37
*TweetTuxMachines @stanabanlet1982 favourited 'today's leftovers https://t.co/BCUcQ9hHpM'Jul 18 17:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755055182359191552Jul 18 17:27
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7Jul 18 17:27
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/3brYLBdW9t (techrights.org)Jul 18 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/7/2016: Vista 10 a Failure, FreeType 2.7 | TechrightsJul 18 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076538819760128Jul 18 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded HardwareJul 18 18:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XpGi7nhTvN (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 18:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded Hardware | Tux MachinesJul 18 18:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076539667001344Jul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Prometheus unbound: Open source cloud monitoringJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/k5XM4QH8Vr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 18:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Prometheus unbound: Open source cloud monitoring | Tux MachinesJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755076951799271424Jul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded HardwareJul 18 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ENBylUOdpn (www.linux.com)Jul 18 18:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Linux Kernel Wizard’s Adventures in Embedded Hardware | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJul 18 18:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755098794367168512Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical and Proprietary Forums Software (Again Cracked)Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YIqpaldWUj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Proprietary Forums Software (Again Cracked) | Tux MachinesJul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755098795105320961Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Splice Machine 2.0 combines HBase, Spark, NoSQL,Jul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 relational...and goes open source https://t.co/sASYgZ7e6VJul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Splice Machine 2.0 combines HBase, Spark, NoSQL, relational...and goes open source | Tux MachinesJul 18 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755122496622383104Jul 18 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with GlusterJul 18 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 and OpenShift https://t.co/9FjyyAke0IJul 18 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 21:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Shoots to Solve Container Storage with Gluster and OpenShift | Tux MachinesJul 18 21:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/755148309812109312Jul 18 22:17
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 22:17
TweetTuxMachines @jesusguevarauto  (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 22:17
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 18 22:30
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, pingJul 18 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/755149489166508032Jul 18 23:33
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/WNBA3BOJ5sJul 18 23:33
TweetTuxMachines @GUSLSanFelix   (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 23:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/755150068035051520Jul 18 23:33
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/aF7ZuXz3nBJul 18 23:33
TweetTuxMachines @GUSLSanFelix   (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 23:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Jack96Uncle/status/755155115762393091 Jul 18 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jack96Uncle: @schestowitz @CraigFitzsimon1 Does this mean we will have to dim down our intellectual and humour level.Jul 18 23:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CraigFitzsimon1/status/755155435221639169Jul 18 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CraigFitzsimon1: @Jack96Uncle @schestowitz think the most salient lesson is perhaps not to take *everyone* as they may appear, sadly.Jul 18 23:37
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cubexyzyeah just realized the Sony Bravia HDTV I have also has ARM CPUJul 19 01:12
cubexyzthere's really no intel monopoly nowJul 19 01:14
cubexyzfixing my first washing machine today :)Jul 19 01:19
cubexyzor fixed ratherJul 19 01:19
cubexyzI've got quite a collection of technology from the 1990'sJul 19 01:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jurasick/status/755196007244263425Jul 19 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I guess that rules out twerking which would be a felony! 😀Jul 19 01:28
razielle_tzuwhat was wrong with the washing machine cubexyz?Jul 19 01:35
cubexyzit was vibrating like crazy and walking across the floorJul 19 01:35
razielle_tzuso... the drum had shifted?Jul 19 01:36
cubexyzI don't think so, but I'm not 100% sureJul 19 01:37
cubexyzI installed a damping kit and checked the springs, and releveled the feetJul 19 01:37
razielle_tzufairJul 19 01:38
cubexyzprobably not 100% fixed, but useableJul 19 01:38
cubexyzprobably needs the bearing kit tooJul 19 01:38
razielle_tzuso long as it's useable :)Jul 19 01:38
cubexyzthere's a lot of DIY repair sites now, so that's helps a lotJul 19 01:40
cubexyzs/that's/that/Jul 19 01:41
razielle_tzutrueJul 19 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are BackJul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h3uIyyjkdX (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 02:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bryan Lunduke and Matt Hartley – The Boys Are Back | Tux MachinesJul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755189156603506689Jul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Top 6 Desktop Linux Blunders https://t.co/FxHR1PbmaxJul 19 02:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 02:09
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schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/jurasick/status/755211384179331072Jul 19 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | TwitterJul 19 02:26
schestowitzHDMI to VGA, I have 3 nowJul 19 02:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755354412718096384Jul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva 3.0 Release Candidate 1Jul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KxEMl3ELV3 (sourceforge.net)Jul 19 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMandriva Lx - Browse /3.0/RC at SourceForge.netJul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755354444687110144Jul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 mageia has a wallpaper chosen https://t.co/lJccZbL3XnJul 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.mageia.org)Jul 19 12:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | And the winner is…. | Mageia Blog (English)Jul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362240279175168Jul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/oDbU4Ge8nSJul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362240996356096Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/j07XTWXBxmJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362241675874304Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/N7cdPlpfLOJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362242426613760Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/iwHiZU1NpLJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755362243718422528Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Respinning Linux https://t.co/xPyx8DjO9AJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Respinning Linux | Tux MachinesJul 19 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755363041659785216Jul 19 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera BuyoutJul 19 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eNg6ft9acY (techrights.org)Jul 19 13:08
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 13:08
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera Buyout https://t.co/eNg6ft9acY'Jul 19 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/7/2016: ARM and Opera Buyout | TechrightsJul 19 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755427049402146816Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3VSPT1AsVS (www.zdnet.com)Jul 19 17:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-​The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13 | ZDNetJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755427466966102016Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands-on with the Linux-ready Dell XPS 13 DeveloperJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 EditionJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/27Uprn4ewi (opensource.com)Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-on with the Linux-ready Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition | Opensource.comJul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755432317510782977Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13Jul 19 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LThacECOxC (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 17:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ​The best Linux laptop: The 2016 Dell XPS 13 | Tux MachinesJul 19 17:01
MinceRdHell crap againJul 19 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755432318475472896Jul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/BkR3I2P6OuJul 19 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454395840466944Jul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Hardware https://t.co/hIo7s90iAxJul 19 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454396553498624Jul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Big Data/Hadoop https://t.co/HSaF1ffGJpJul 19 18:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Big Data/Hadoop | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! https://t.co/vQCyjiASjBJul 19 18:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.0 RC1 arrives!! | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755454398000529408Jul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Can you name these Linux distributions?Jul 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bc1jvHlmPF (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 18:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can you name these Linux distributions? | Tux MachinesJul 19 18:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755498542974676994Jul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro nowJul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 available -- 32-bit ISO dead https://t.co/p1SvOMjqMXJul 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 21:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora-based Korora 24 'Sheldon' Linux distro now available -- 32-bit ISO dead | Tux MachinesJul 19 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755519978741207040Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry PiJul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 clone https://t.co/AuoIaI3bkz (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Coin-sized COM could be world’s smallest Raspberry Pi clone | Tux MachinesJul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755519979533979648Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 How To Upgrade to Linux Mint 18 https://t.co/nDwcA7KT61Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 19 23:04
TweetTuxMachines Jul 19 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Upgrade to Linux Mint 18 | Tux MachinesJul 19 23:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @DelgerSn favourited 'Top 50 Linux System Administrator Interview Questions https://t.co/jr63AnvbTD'Jul 20 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755710213152530432Jul 20 11:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/6qHgHTcC4wJul 20 11:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 20 11:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/755711628478443520Jul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/6qHgHTcC4wJul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 12:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755712786743910400Jul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora's answer to Snap Packages only begs more questionsJul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oc3piNVw99 (www.techrepublic.com)Jul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora's answer to Snap Packages only begs more questions - TechRepublicJul 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755721689833541632Jul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Four Alternatives to Raspbian and Ubuntu MATEJul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZVomTMCCHC (fossforce.com)Jul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Four Alternatives to Raspbian and Ubuntu MATE | FOSS ForceJul 20 12:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755722006142840833Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 $5 Linux-equipped Omega2 IoT module launches onJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Kickstarter https://t.co/5ZqOhMRN6u (hackerboards.com)Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | $5 Linux-equipped Omega2 IoT module launches on KickstarterJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755722919137972225Jul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Tumbleweed updates bash, KDE, new Kernel coming soonJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/hujzqwFVal (news.opensuse.org)Jul 20 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE NewsJul 20 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755724143690153984Jul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Looks like Stardew Valley is starting to gear up for theJul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux release https://t.co/SptdvVGhN2Jul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 12:27
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looks like Stardew Valley is starting to gear up for the Linux release | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 12:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755724339492823040Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Blossom Tales, a beautiful looking 2D Zelda-like actionJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 RPG is heading to Linux https://t.co/aKePD9pypbJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blossom Tales, a beautiful looking 2D Zelda-like action RPG is heading to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725186591260672Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 TynanSylvester, creator of RimWorld comments on LinuxJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/veBSg5SAol (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:29
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'TynanSylvester, creator of RimWorld comments on Linux https://t.co/veBSg5SAol'Jul 20 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TynanSylvester, creator of RimWorld comments on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725542222102528Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 You can play controversial FPS 'Daikatana' on Linux now,Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 thanks to a fan patch endorsed by John RomeroJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pCPhbkW0nu (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You can play controversial FPS 'Daikatana' on Linux now, thanks to a fan patch endorsed by John Romero | GamingOnLinuxJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725571439550464Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Learn an instrument with this open source music teacherJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0b0Whbn3pI (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Learn an instrument with this open source music teacher | Tux MachinesJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725572509044736Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Results of the EU-FOSSA survey https://t.co/EDUlBOPj6zJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 12:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Results of the EU-FOSSA survey | Tux MachinesJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755725573272416257Jul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/UHASwplKMuJul 20 12:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 12:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PhoromaticJul 20 18:00
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schestowitzvery few followers so far :-(Jul 20 18:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ManCity/status/755726718887866370Jul 20 18:02
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/CbnnOJrQVf (error) digi peeps hunt openJul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 source chief https://t.co/D0eBzZQ1H6Jul 20 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK.gov digi peeps hunt open source chief | Tux MachinesJul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755870158485192704Jul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 vs. 760 vs. 960 vs. 1060 LinuxJul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Performance https://t.co/MbKdCJdbIf (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 vs. 760 vs. 960 vs. 1060 Linux Performance | Tux MachinesJul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755870159164682241Jul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Release of Fedora 24 updated LivesJul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5wNNr5WC58 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of Fedora 24 updated Lives | Tux MachinesJul 20 22:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755870159902875648Jul 20 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Tough i.MX6-based Linux SBC targets wireless video, runsJul 20 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 on 3W https://t.co/F7rOWXd4py (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 22:21
TweetTuxMachines Jul 20 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tough i.MX6-based Linux SBC targets wireless video, runs on 3W | Tux MachinesJul 20 22:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/755870156648091648Jul 20 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 EC to audit Apache HTTP Server and KeepassJul 20 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FOvkVRWH6K (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 22:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EC to audit Apache HTTP Server and Keepass | Tux MachinesJul 20 22:21
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 20 22:52
razielle_tzuo/Jul 20 23:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJul 20 23:02
razielle_tzuhow are you?Jul 20 23:02
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks Ubuntu convergence is starting to look more exciting now going by two videos that seen recentlyJul 20 23:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, a bit hmm, wanting to organise an event, but the venue I want hasn't got back to me yet, yes an event for Linux Presentation DayJul 20 23:03
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich means not that much time to organise, but can be doable Jul 20 23:03
razielle_tzufairJul 20 23:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, might have to get some kind of funding or sponsership to cover an event cost though hmmJul 20 23:04
razielle_tzushould be doable thoughJul 20 23:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also Ubuntu convergence is looking more interesting now,  like I should buy the Microsoft display adapter soonJul 20 23:04
razielle_tzublehJul 20 23:04
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Ubuntu over the air update there's an offical release delayed to Wednesday next weekJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDthat has the thingJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDin itJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDfor the tabletJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it looks good via  the video I sawJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat bluetooth mouse would you buyJul 20 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HDI got a cheap toner one from aamzon, but that didn't seem to workJul 20 23:05
razielle_tzui'm not fussed, it's not something that interests me and with the way canonical are going i'm going to be moving on from a ubuntu-based distro to maybe archJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDI am not so keen on the colours etc of the logitech ones I seen and other ones,  so hmmJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh your one ofthoseJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HD:DJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu uh, I am going Arch!Jul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's quite common thatJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDin the past few years or soJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople going from Ubuntu to Arch for some raeason, but why Arch ?Jul 20 23:06
razielle_tzui'm using mint atm but i prefer arch anyway, i just wanted to make sure my hardware was still stable under linux firstJul 20 23:06
SebthreeBQM10HDso you tested Mint h ehJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDyes Arch is more doing things yourself I guessJul 20 23:07
razielle_tzuwell yeah, it has almost everything i'd need to test pre-installedJul 20 23:07
razielle_tzueverything works so i'll be moving later in the weekJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  am hoping to be able to go to my LUG meeting on Saturday, and be like, and with hte other guy who's interestedJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDbe likeJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDyes an eventJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDand already got a  venue reallyJul 20 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HDor pretty muchJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HD,but looking like things may not go that way hmmJul 20 23:08
razielle_tzui need to set a spare SD card up for fridayJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, then I can probably organise a better event myself in like three months, than what we had before, make sure marketing is done right etcJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDit seems they actsually think the remaster idea was a wast of time now as well at least one of them :dJul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDthey really wanted that in 2013/14Jul 20 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, my distro, and GNOME as well got out voted by them!Jul 20 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat I wantedJul 20 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HDit basically became their event, but I still helped out with getting freebies Jul 20 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and there were a load of issues on the marekting/promotion site, so didn't get many of the target audiance, but quite a few geeks yesJul 20 23:10
razielle_tzuthat can happenJul 20 23:10
razielle_tzuit takes a LOT of market research to get that kind of thing rightJul 20 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HDif I felt it was more my event still I would have probably mentioend promotion/maretting more,  if things had been done and what etcJul 20 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HDbut as I said it  mostly wasn't really my event in the end as well soJul 20 23:11
razielle_tzuyeahJul 20 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HDnow former organiseers or one or two in parituclar will be reluctent to organise another eventJul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDespeically in much less time as well I thinkJul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDabout three months will be seen as being too little time!Jul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but  one or two of them I think would be eaiser not to work with like did before really ass well, or not as muchJul 20 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HDif they want to help out on the day, or a bit here and there that would be okJul 20 23:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I hope can have a venue sorted soon, then really can pllan an event even more properly than already did, and even have something a bit bigger then last time I expect, get some people to come and help out with stands or something from esle where even I guess possibly :)Jul 20 23:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, my idea is to have Creative Commons stuff as wellJul 20 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HDget general public interested in that :)Jul 20 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah no venue, no event, hmmJul 20 23:15
SebthreeBQM10HDevents are fun thoughJul 20 23:15
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, have you organisd some events if so what?Jul 20 23:16
razielle_tzuthe usual ones i do are small demo classes for the pi (which i'm doing on friday) or linux as an alternative to windows with a variety of distros on show so people can find the one that suits them instead of trying to convince people to pick one in particularJul 20 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yes that's the kind of stuff I want for another eventJul 20 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HDwehre do you do your classes etc?Jul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes you did say something before about something on FridaysJul 20 23:21
razielle_tzuyeah i run a computer club most friday morningsJul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDif I order things from Amazon and not with a prime membership tonightJul 20 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HDI guess may even have the parcel by Wednesday next week when the update is :DJul 20 23:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI could buy a Micrsooft dispaly adapter directly from Microsoft though, but I want to buy the white k480 bluetooh kebyoard as well, got the black on amazon, want to buy some kind of bluetooth mouse to that actsaully, works and a track pad thingJul 20 23:22
razielle_tzui guess that could be trueJul 20 23:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI got an expensive August really as wellJul 20 23:22
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I think I am meant to pre order something then some time in August by latest really, that I didn't have the money to crowd fund at the timeJul 20 23:23
SebthreeBQM10HDfor a bit less as wellJul 20 23:23
SebthreeBQM10HDplus there's something else I want to buy that again didn't have money to crowd fund, but can buy what will be theretial versibonJul 20 23:23
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I am not sure, but I have a feeling my Windows 8.1  install USB,  offical one that I actsually bought for the HP lap top,  may have gotton thrown away, because of someone here!Jul 20 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is annoying if so, since that cost like 30 poundsJul 20 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HDI did this sily mcafee thing to, because there was a way to get it a load cheaper for a year ortwo, I know Macafee is not goodJul 20 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I want to re install everything on my hp lap top, and I belive malware may be in the Windows install, since I had installed a program from well pretty much a arnaodm site really it turns out, and maybe not even the offical one etcJul 20 23:25
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I wanted to try and delete some stuff from ipad air in a more secure wayJul 20 23:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you know Windows, doesnt' take much to get infected by something etc!Jul 20 23:25
razielle_tzuso you use iexplorer for that if itunes won't helpJul 20 23:25
razielle_tzuand i know windows is easy to infectJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that was before, I still have an issue with the apple account to, trying to get that re set, oh if only I had done the password reset the first itme roundJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDbut only had three hours and that expiredJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen they sent me the thingJul 20 23:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, in fact that ipaid air is likely to have malware on it!Jul 20 23:26
razielle_tzureally?Jul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDsince when I was using it, it hadn't been updated since issues,  etc,  and then had been on certain sites with it etcJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDyes not updated for a long timeJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, when your browser comes up a bit oddly, or on certain sites Jul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDand things like thatJul 20 23:27
razielle_tzulolJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDit basically says, that yep may have some sort of malware on thereJul 20 23:27
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, there was a issue with the account or something, can't quite remember now why the updates hadn't been installed!Jul 20 23:28
SebthreeBQM10HDnot used for months as wellJul 20 23:28
SebthreeBQM10HDand it had also broken so soeone fixed upJul 20 23:28
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, why the lol ?Jul 20 23:29
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I wantd to do  factory re set with it, but unless I can get into the apple accountJul 20 23:29
SebthreeBQM10HDI would lose access to that!Jul 20 23:29
razielle_tzubecause almost everyone i know touts the safety and security of ipads over android stuff but ALWAYS come to me with an infection to clean for themJul 20 23:29
SebthreeBQM10HDif can't re set the apple acocunt password and gain access to it  the usaul wayJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDit's just saved on the ipad the detailsJul 20 23:30
razielle_tzuno one ever brings android stuff to me for cleaning, just flashing new custom romsJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh right I seeJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand Andorid I don't think is particualry secureJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I mean more the app situationJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDand I was saying to someone about that earlier on todayJul 20 23:30
razielle_tzuit's no more or less secure than iOSJul 20 23:30
SebthreeBQM10HDbut basically every app or pretty much, wants access to your photos, and your vidoes etcJul 20 23:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand if you don't allow them access to pretty much everything, then well that app probably doesn' workJul 20 23:31
razielle_tzui'm selective with my apps... so it's just media players and e-book readers on my phone, they don't want any of that accessJul 20 23:31
SebthreeBQM10HDit wasnts access to the cam and micirphone etc toJul 20 23:31
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can be selective, but as I put most apps want access to pretty much everything, so much for security from apps thenJul 20 23:32
razielle_tzuoh apart from snapchat and instagram but i don't mind them having the access they doJul 20 23:32
SebthreeBQM10HDtht's something that bothered me about Andoid to begin with!Jul 20 23:32
razielle_tzuit's mostly because devs can't code without full hardware access any moreJul 20 23:32
SebthreeBQM10HDthe other thing that sucks hwen it comes to Android apps, and that I noticed pretty much straight away when first using Android, and being all used to Desktop Linuxx already as well so no adverts basicallyJul 20 23:32
SebthreeBQM10HDyep lots of adverts when it comes to Android apps in generalJul 20 23:32
razielle_tzulol, only for certain apps that usually have a full ad-free version too or it's from a new studio without the capital to do ad-free stuff yetJul 20 23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDalso Androdi uh, to many apps, it's frgamented I guess you could say ascaully, people say Linux is fragmented sinc the amount of distros, but no I think that's gnerally good it's choiceJul 20 23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDbut Anroid uhJul 20 23:33
SebthreeBQM10HDso many apps that its hard to find the good onesJul 20 23:33
razielle_tzuplus google inject ads to raise revenue for themselves and the app studioJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I guess what you said then, but there we go then, lots of appsJul 20 23:34
razielle_tzuthat's another reason for the increase in accessJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDadvertsJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDI meant to put thereJul 20 23:34
SebthreeBQM10HDadverts all over uhJul 20 23:34
razielle_tzui get no adverts in ANY of my apps that are bought in fullJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwell that's standrd if you buy an appJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDno advertJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HD,but I was on about free apps yesJul 20 23:35
razielle_tzuhewll i don't get any in snapchat or instagram eitherJul 20 23:35
razielle_tzu*hellJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDalso Ubuntu Touch doesn't have that issue of apps wanting access to like everything, as far as I knowJul 20 23:35
SebthreeBQM10HDsame for other Linux based ones like Salifish OSJul 20 23:35
razielle_tzucool reader, duolingo, imgur, plague inc., smart audiobooks... these are free apps i have with no advertsJul 20 23:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes my ipaid is probably infected knew that for monthsJul 20 23:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor well something on it that makes the browser go a bit funny etc at times as I was sayingJul 20 23:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, as for the account issues, no I can't just do a normal account password reset, and hae the email for that, and re set from there!Jul 20 23:37
razielle_tzuso set a new one up and free it that way?Jul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really it's not so much re setting the password, it's more finding out what the password is!Jul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDI don't know what it is for the accountJul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDit's saved on the ipad thoughJul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDas the accountJul 20 23:37
SebthreeBQM10HDbut the account will have some data  or something in it that I would want I thinkJul 20 23:38
razielle_tzuthen for now you're screwedJul 20 23:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, if an account is saved on the ipad with the password, and can log into the accountJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDI am on about the cloud accountJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDthe icloud account the apple accountJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDI can log into the ipad itselfJul 20 23:39
SebthreeBQM10HDbut if the icloud account is saved on there with it's password, there is surely some way to get the password off the ipad for it?Jul 20 23:39
razielle_tzuthen explain what you mean clearer, you are barely making sense tonight tbhJul 20 23:39
razielle_tzuthere might be but i can't think of a way right nowJul 20 23:40
SebthreeBQM10HDonce I contacted apple, and they were like ok you'll get a passwrod re set email in 24 hours, then you got three hours to re set the password, and that email came, but I didn't re set the passoword in time in the three hours, and every other time I tried that again for them to send issues didn't happenJul 20 23:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I want to know what my icloud/apple account password is,  or if not that, be able to re set it at leastJul 20 23:40
SebthreeBQM10HDI can log into the account that's being used on the ipad, where there is the icloud/apple account set up on itJul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDto sync or whatever it doesJul 20 23:41
razielle_tzuif you can log in to icloud on the ipad can't you change it on there?Jul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDnot from what I have seenJul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDalso I don't know the passwordJul 20 23:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really what I would want to do is  sort the account out, then factory re set as wellJul 20 23:42
SebthreeBQM10HDeven more so now, as someone who suspects malware as wellJul 20 23:42
razielle_tzui don't know iOS enough to be able to help you with thisJul 20 23:42
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks ok but she undersands nowJul 20 23:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah I gave in last year in Brussels at the air port actsually on way backJul 20 23:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, since ok Ipaid Air 2 was out, but I could buy the first ipaid air for like 150 or so pounds cheaper than the at that time UK priceJul 20 23:43
SebthreeBQM10HDapparnatly cheaper than some shiop in Belgium and such to, they were having a laugh it seems at that shop to that know how,  how many ipads they had sold that week etcJul 20 23:44
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, at first I was like hmm,  Ipaid not sure really,  since well partly since things MinceR had put actsaully about how bad Apple is etcJul 20 23:44
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I did give in after being there for longer, since really I wanted to play around with iOS a part ofme, I hadn't done that before soJul 20 23:44
SebthreeBQM10HDthen it was fun to be back also, and tell MinceR how I had bought a Apple device h eh h eh,  to troll him a bit with that h eh he h, well troll or tease whateverJul 20 23:45
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, MinceR basically hates or strongly dislikes AppleJul 20 23:45
razielle_tzui got a first gen ipad a few months ago to learn a few things and tbh i wish i hadn't. it's that old that nothing is supported any more and i don't like the feel of the os at allJul 20 23:45
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich version of ios ?Jul 20 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDand do you really mean first gen, so which ipad?Jul 20 23:46
razielle_tzuyes i mean first gen, it's still on iOS 5.somethingJul 20 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDthe ipad air was fine,  they kept it up to date as well, but I wasn't installing the updates since hmm,  account issues,  and wanting to use that version of ios, and wanting to eventauly factory re set, and I guess some other reason, I woudl normaly install updats for an os!Jul 20 23:46
razielle_tzui would tell you exactly but i can't remember where i put itJul 20 23:46
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I got ios 7 or something on that ipad airJul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDyou don't like the os why?Jul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDthe one I seen is quite basic, I mean it looks nice and fancy but that's just graphics realyJul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDit's more like a basic Linux distro you could say by defaultJul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDI hadn't installed any apps on that iapd as well in fact as wll because of some reason!Jul 20 23:47
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I think ios is more about the apps, installing apps  and then it becomes betterJul 20 23:48
razielle_tzui find it clunky and too heavy on the graphics instead of functionalityJul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDtoo heavey and clunky on graphics why?Jul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDI think people like apple since well it's blingeyJul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDand also it runs better than WindowsJul 20 23:48
SebthreeBQM10HDand remember these are peopel who haven't expereinced or knownigly experiencd Linux like usJul 20 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDI don't mean Androdi, I mean Desktop Linux,  and even Linux based mobile osesJul 20 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDAndroid has Linux in it, but is it's own thing and tighed to google as well in certain ways,  there's no Linux in the name as well etcJul 20 23:49
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus we know as software freedom people, that Apple well restricts peoples freedom etcJul 20 23:50
razielle_tzui've never been a fan of apple products, this just kinda sealed the deal for me not using them by choice ever again tbhJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDlock them in in certian ways as well or try toJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Ipad Airwas bought cheapJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDbut I did use it for a few months and like for everythingJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDsince net book issuesJul 20 23:50
SebthreeBQM10HDand so I aws aiting to buy another lap top, to have one bought, but then it was like what,  and so i settled on a hp lap top with a touch screen, but had to wait for that to be in stock as wellJul 20 23:51
razielle_tzui've let that and my android tablet run flat and just not bothered charging them againJul 20 23:51
razielle_tzumy laptops are mostly charged and in useJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDwhilst I had the ipad airJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDI was waiting for  Jolla tablet as wellJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDyes from the former NOkia people,  who started Salifsih OS etcJul 20 23:51
SebthreeBQM10HDsince got  nice Jolla phone that should also srot out gain how I want it and do more with really, they had a crowd fudning campagain for a talet with an OS update as wel, the OS update came, but then issues  with an investero, and so most of us have been re funded insteadJul 20 23:52
SebthreeBQM10HDwell partly re funded, there will be  second half update re fund coming toJul 20 23:52
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I didn't have anything bluetooth with the ipaid,  but I am quite happy using mostly an Ubuntu tablet nad this lovely k480Jul 20 23:52
razielle_tzuyeah, you've said... constantly in factJul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah if I am going to do Virualbox for exmple which I do at times, I'll need a computer for that a real computer!Jul 20 23:53
razielle_tzuhow will you cope not using just a tablet? :PJul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes I haveJul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how would you cope being a guy for a day :D ?Jul 20 23:53
SebthreeBQM10HDyou probably are quite guy like in certain ways already though h e hJul 20 23:54
razielle_tzulolJul 20 23:54
razielle_tzucubexyz: should i finally tell him or just leave it?Jul 20 23:54
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, what that you were a guy  all  along pretending to be a girl :d ?Jul 20 23:55
razielle_tzunopeJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDanyway Jul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDI do think thatJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu/Canonical are onto something with the whole convergence idaJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDideaJul 20 23:55
SebthreeBQM10HDeven Microsoft to some extent with contium, but that's just the most expensive phone really, and that just basically puts it onto a bigger screenJul 20 23:56
SebthreeBQM10HDplus unlike with Ubuntu, you actusally need a sperate device so the phone can do continum as wellJul 20 23:56
razielle_tzumicrosoft want to keep each device separate but have similar/the same interface, ubuntu want you to choose which device to work on at any time withoout being restrictedJul 20 23:57
SebthreeBQM10HDand I think generally by home users/ consumers,  that yes for most of them, lap tops and desktops are being used much less, and that's mostly since smart phones, but also since ipad's and other tablets for people with themJul 20 23:58
razielle_tzupeople i know personally literally just use their tablet or phone while out and about. at home and they're straight back on a laptop or desktop to do thingsJul 20 23:58
SebthreeBQM10HDso  the idea of having  tablet as a screen, connected to a bluetooh keyboard and mouse etc, may catch up on more with the generl public as time goes on, yep really turning it into a lap top basically, espeicaly with things like ubuntu convergence and microsoft continumJul 20 23:58
SebthreeBQM10HDwell your probably not going  to type a load of documents on a smalll screen smart phone for example, unless it's connected to a bigger screenJul 20 23:59
razielle_tzuSebthreeBQM10HD: i have a REALLY important question to ask, please don't get offended when i ask it...Jul 20 23:59
SebthreeBQM10HDon a tablet though with a big enough screen it mightJul 20 23:59
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you want  me to type less :D ?Jul 21 00:00
razielle_tzuare you being paid to shill for Touch?Jul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDoh h ehJul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, at one stage years ago,  I guess  I was a bit or so of an Ubuntu fan boy but that was also since I was much youngerJul 21 00:00
SebthreeBQM10HDthen certain things happended that I didn't like with desktop ubuntuJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDso started moving more away to other disrosJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDMageia etcJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I got quite invovled with Magia acgauly in certain ways, which took me to Brussels fosdemJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDthe last five yearsJul 21 00:01
razielle_tzuthat doesn't answer the question i asked though :/Jul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDhowever Mageia is a bit boring now I findJul 21 00:01
SebthreeBQM10HDsince it really is just keeping what was the old Mandriva alive s  community distroJul 21 00:02
razielle_tzuwhich leads me to a second question...Jul 21 00:02
razielle_tzuare you really a politician?Jul 21 00:02
SebthreeBQM10HDreally all they mostly do is put in upstrema pckages, and their branding nad yahJul 21 00:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  went more away from Ubuntu, but I did go to the weekly jono bacon questio and answer sessionsJul 21 00:03
SebthreeBQM10HDthat happended beforeJul 21 00:03
SebthreeBQM10HDand oh he was great at showing ubuntu touch on the nexus etcJul 21 00:03
SebthreeBQM10HDit  always looked intereting  some how!  but when I wanted a phone in 2013,  it went out of stock so ended upwith a samsuing galaxy s3,  however of course hwen the first commericaly availalbe ubuntu phone went on sale, I bought one, and so on from thereJul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDit's just interetingJul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDit's differnetJul 21 00:04
razielle_tzuSebthreeBQM10HD: that's great and all but my questions could have been answered with yes or no, not a long spiel that i can't focus on because of my medsJul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI like playing with differnet kinds of oses, altough it's been mostly LInux so far!Jul 21 00:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI do feel that can se where Ubuntu is giong much more now, well where Canonical is trying to take it, going by these devices thoughJul 21 00:05
SebthreeBQM10HDand well Firefox OS had so much potential really, but Mozilla messed up,  targeting only realy Africa to begin withJul 21 00:05
SebthreeBQM10HDshame since I did buy a cheap Firefox OS phone last year as well, and I seen some Firefox OS again this year at FOSDEM to,  and well it looks so nice etcJul 21 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDmore so than Ubuntu touch in fact!Jul 21 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDthe way it looks the graphicsJul 21 00:06
SebthreeBQM10HDso  Fiefox OS eh, that's pretty much had it, excpet for on panasonic  smart tvs.  jolla I don't think quite has the intention of targeting the main stremae like Canonical woud love to do in the future.  and Tizn is Samsungs back up plan and play thing,  for if Android doesnt' go how they want it enough etcJul 21 00:07
SebthreeBQM10HDso the main altenratie Linux player like it or not is Ubuntu Touch, alternative being to Android as wellJul 21 00:08
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razielle_tzutrueJul 21 00:08
razielle_tzuanyway, time to create an antergos usb installerJul 21 00:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, quite  a few of us prefer more well Desktop Linux like mobile devices as well now as in smart phones and tablets,  and in diffenrt ways Ubuntu Touch and Salifish OS do that, and to some extent Firefox OS as wellJul 21 00:09
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razielle_tzuyeah i knowJul 21 00:11
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Tizen eh, that's not really going to go anywhere proper it seems, unless Samsung decide for it toJul 21 00:12
razielle_tzuthere are a few devs outside of samsung testing it afaikJul 21 00:14
razielle_tzuso it might go somewhere with the hackersJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HDwith hackersJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HDsureJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HD,butJul 21 00:14
SebthreeBQM10HDnot more average kind of peopleJul 21 00:15
SebthreeBQM10HDFIrefox won't go with more average pople now, so that's out in that context, Jolla I don't think will either because Salifish OS in certain ways seem to be more aimed at tedchis than aything else really from waht I have seen as well, and jolla has a load of company issues now as well, and is smallJul 21 00:15
SebthreeBQM10HDso that's out then for possibly getting out thee more with techi'sJul 21 00:16
SebthreeBQM10HDso it basically just leves Canonical with Ubuntu,  with the proper intention and most interst of doing tht in general, and not just for commerical rasons Samsung uhJul 21 00:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus  yes they have done things that have been a bit hmm over the years at times, I agree with that, but well it's interesting reallyJul 21 00:17
razielle_tzui know maybe three users i'd consider average though, so it's no big deal if tizen is only popular with hackers/customisersJul 21 00:17
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu flor phone and tablets etcJul 21 00:17
SebthreeBQM10HDthree years you would consider average what you mean?Jul 21 00:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Tizen is for geeks who know about it and want it, and also Samsungs back up plan if relying on Android turns out to not be in their interest any moreJul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDenoughJul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDso Tizen in that sense eh, but I  am interested in importing an r3 from india, to try the os etcJul 21 00:18
razielle_tzuso do it?Jul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDI will, but got other tech to buy firstJul 21 00:18
SebthreeBQM10HDso have to waitJul 21 00:19
SebthreeBQM10HDtech devices most of them aren't exactly cheap soJul 21 00:19
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes can buy tizen phones on amzon or e bayJul 21 00:20
*SebthreeBQM10HD would possibly be interested to an extent if razielle_tzu made her own OS, but why? try even if just in a vm, but try why simple since it would be another os to tryJul 21 00:21
razielle_tzui'm tempted but i need to learn to code a bit more firstJul 21 00:21
*SebthreeBQM10HD woudn't be that interesetd if it was just some linux based or linuxey type one, I mean more an OS made from scratch etc :dJul 21 00:21
razielle_tzuplus it would only be another linux distroJul 21 00:21
SebthreeBQM10HDther was some guy that did oneJul 21 00:21
SebthreeBQM10HDI read about it like a year agoJul 21 00:21
SebthreeBQM10HDnamed after abird or something, I can't remember what it was calledJul 21 00:22
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah he had worked on here and there for quite a few yearsJul 21 00:22
SebthreeBQM10HDand I mean an OS from scratch, his own kernel the lotJul 21 00:22
razielle_tzutrueJul 21 00:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but yes I am not  programmer , but I am interested in osesJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDhow i see it isJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDwell the os  makes the expereinceJul 21 00:23
razielle_tzui'm not a programmer either, not any more at leastJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDthe hardware you actully use does to an extent as well sure, but the OS is the like experience you get and useJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDand then whatever programs with that OS as wellJul 21 00:23
SebthreeBQM10HDso when my Dad was like to me about 10 years or so ago,  eh to oses basically, like they didn't matter much differnet ones etcJul 21 00:24
SebthreeBQM10HDyes that annoyed me!Jul 21 00:24
SebthreeBQM10HDhe would just use Windows, and be like eh to anything else, don't want ot use that etcJul 21 00:24
razielle_tzui preferred amigas to the early pcs we had but then commodore went underJul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I didn't get to play with stuf like that reallyJul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwell ther was some old pc that was gven to us in the 90s for freeJul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwith like a green screen etc, could do some stuff, unofrutntly it got thorwn out!Jul 21 00:25
SebthreeBQM10HDI put pc, but it wasn't a pcJul 21 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HDit was some other kind of computer, and I don't know whatJul 21 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HDso putting pc was a mistake I did there reallyJul 21 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also shame our old Atari broke, because we had some  interesting games for that as well, such as  Donky Kong and ChooperJul 21 00:27
SebthreeBQM10HDI think I can get Donky Kong for  something now, that reminds me, but I coudn't find  chooper that's ashameJul 21 00:27
*SebthreeBQM10HD loved chooperJul 21 00:27
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm I guess there's an actsul atari emulater out there some wher, and then games for thatJul 21 00:28
SebthreeBQM10HDsame for Amiga etcJul 21 00:28
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razielle_tzui knowJul 21 00:29
razielle_tzui use the amiga one from time to timeJul 21 00:29
SebthreeBQM10HDhmm an amiga one for what?Jul 21 00:29
razielle_tzui use the amiga emulator for games and sometimes octamedJul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it's amazing relly the amount of old software there is out ther enowJul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, from games, to other thingsJul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDsoftware going back to like the 80's even and at times before that evenJul 21 00:30
razielle_tzutake a look through archive.org sometimes ;)Jul 21 00:30
SebthreeBQM10HDyes last time I was on there a lotJul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDI was doing WIndows 3.1Jul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDthey got like Windows 3.1 emulater Jul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can play the old solitaire, and mess around with free cell as well and paint and other  thingsJul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand all in the browser yepJul 21 00:31
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is awesome :)Jul 21 00:31
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, do you prefer modren gaming or more well older gaming retro ?Jul 21 00:32
SebthreeBQM10HDand why ?Jul 21 00:32
razielle_tzudepends on my mood and who i'm playing withJul 21 00:33
SebthreeBQM10HD razielle_tzu I can easilly play lots of old games on a interesting gaming device nowJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDso awesome :)Jul 21 00:34
razielle_tzu:)Jul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDit's been fun the last few weekshere and there thatJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, get to play games that would have never played othewise etcJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDor try them out a bit etcJul 21 00:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, which reminds me there was some kind of barbie racer I wanted to download and try out,  yes Barbie seriously Jul 21 00:35
razielle_tzulol, i preferred micromachines on the A500+Jul 21 00:35
razielle_tzu:PJul 21 00:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat's micromachines ?Jul 21 00:35
razielle_tzuit's an rc racing gameJul 21 00:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I was doing old rug rats games last night, but yeah most dind't seem good or now, we had a good one on the ps 1 beforeJul 21 00:36
SebthreeBQM10HDthere was one that did seem good thoughJul 21 00:36
razielle_tzuoh?Jul 21 00:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yep lots of old games that can try out as I was saying,  Monster Trucks is good :)Jul 21 00:38
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 00:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, knock knockJul 21 00:39
SebthreeBQM10HDwho's there?Jul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Jul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  whoJul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDyou!Jul 21 00:40
razielle_tzuthat was bad :PJul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  yep :dJul 21 00:40
SebthreeBQM10HDand was meant to be a bit random to :DJul 21 00:40
*SebthreeBQM10HD could never actsaully do rel knock knock jokes it seems, oh wellJul 21 00:41
razielle_tzuoh wellJul 21 00:41
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks razielle_tzu should entertain him, he's starting to get bored it seems hmmJul 21 00:41
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 21 00:41
razielle_tzui don't do entertaining though :/Jul 21 00:42
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, dance around for me :d Jul 21 00:42
razielle_tzunoJul 21 00:42
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 21 00:42
*SebthreeBQM10HD will probably actsually watch tv tonight, still has the last seris of hereos to watch a bit more of for example, and that was on tv months agoJul 21 00:43
*razielle_tzu is waiting for antergos to finish installingJul 21 00:43
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a horror movie that started watdching again the other week, that had seen most of before, an irish, so yeah at some stage i'll finish that off toJul 21 00:44
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks he has hear of antergos before yeah probably and probably from razielle_tzu but has a mind that has gone blank as to what that is, some sort of amiga thing or something maybeJul 21 00:44
SebthreeBQM10HDor some thing else to with old computersJul 21 00:45
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks using /me can be fun :dJul 21 00:45
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks using /me can be fun, but when used correctly though as an action thingJul 21 00:45
razielle_tzuantergos is an arch based distroJul 21 00:45
SebthreeBQM10HDseems my irc client doesn't like two of those in a rowJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDoh an arch based distro yeah I think I read about that before some hwere a few timesJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yes that explains itJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but why do you prefer arch?Jul 21 00:46
*SebthreeBQM10HD wonders what the secret is that cubexyz and razielle_tzu the something that I was nearly told :DJul 21 00:46
SebthreeBQM10HDhasJul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDhas togetherJul 21 00:47
razielle_tzuit's a rolling distro, which is nice, and you have more control over everything right from the start instead of having to get rid of things you don't like after installing the base systemJul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDa rolling distro ok :)Jul 21 00:47
razielle_tzueveryone who pays attention knows itJul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDyour secrete thing that isn't a secret then ?Jul 21 00:47
SebthreeBQM10HDuh?Jul 21 00:47
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razielle_tzupretty muchJul 21 00:48
razielle_tzuyou seem to be the only person unaware of itJul 21 00:48
SebthreeBQM10HDuh I probaby to do then or would, but I don't remember if I even knowJul 21 00:48
*SebthreeBQM10HD isn't always in here as wellJul 21 00:48
*SebthreeBQM10HD isn't going to read through a load of old logs for this channel as well :DJul 21 00:49
razielle_tzu:PJul 21 00:49
SebthreeBQM10HDand yes rolling distors can be nicer ike PC Linux OS for example as wellJul 21 00:49
SebthreeBQM10HDhaving to update say every well Jul 21 00:49
SebthreeBQM10HD18 months? or 9 with Ubuntu? well  when meant to do  a big update, can be rather uhJul 21 00:50
SebthreeBQM10HDthe same old, ssam old boring packagin installing in a later version etc in a big slow updateJul 21 00:50
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, so what i am apparnatly meant to know it seems, but don't know ?Jul 21 00:51
razielle_tzui might explain properly laterJul 21 00:51
SebthreeBQM10HDhmmJul 21 00:51
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, it's ok if you use to be a guy etc, h eh, no that's a joke, and seriosuly whatever it is, well it's fine I expect, and your awesome :)Jul 21 00:52
razielle_tzuscrew it... i DID used to be a guy, that changed two years ago when i came out as transJul 21 00:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, really?Jul 21 00:53
SebthreeBQM10HDoh hence that channel as well the ohJul 21 00:53
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDprobably explains the tech interests to realyJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDto the extent you haveJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDsinceJul 21 00:54
SebthreeBQM10HDnot that many born as, are into it as much etc, yes there are some that are thoughJul 21 00:54
razielle_tzunot really, like i said before i know plenty of girls interested in techJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDI came across someone yearsa go in another channel actaullyJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDwhoJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDapparnatly was a tech girl etc, but then wel wanted to bbecome a girl more etcJul 21 00:55
SebthreeBQM10HDactually mett this person  few years later at an event as well, was meant tobe the pevious year, but we coudn't find each other then etcJul 21 00:56
SebthreeBQM10HDplus they dated someone from the event etc, broken up sinceJul 21 00:57
SebthreeBQM10HDa guy fromJul 21 00:57
SebthreeBQM10HDand whatever it's IRC, doesn't really matter that much what gender someone is etc, is on here :)Jul 21 00:57
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople are people on IRC :)Jul 21 00:58
razielle_tzui know it doesn't but somethings can be really gratingJul 21 00:58
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat do you mean?Jul 21 00:58
razielle_tzucomments about "being a guy really", asking what i'd do if i had a cock for a day, things like thatJul 21 00:59
razielle_tzuthey can make me feel like crapJul 21 00:59
razielle_tzui normally play them off but i can't today because things are kinda crappy on that frontJul 21 01:00
SebthreeBQM10HDgenerally in this channel people have much more freedom of speech than in most other channels on this network etc let's say, now that isn't always a good thing possibly but yeahJul 21 01:01
razielle_tzua freedom of speech doesn't mean a freedom from consequenceJul 21 01:01
razielle_tzuso whiole people are free to say whatever, so are people that disagree :)Jul 21 01:02
razielle_tzu*whileJul 21 01:02
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, just to be clear,  I like you :),  some of my a bit more jokey comments etc might have come across the wrong way a bit at times thoughJul 21 01:03
razielle_tzuit happens sometimes and i feel at fault for not clearing things up soonerJul 21 01:03
razielle_tzuit was just nice to be accepted as a girl in tech without dealing with trans bullshit tooJul 21 01:04
SebthreeBQM10HDI used to be more careful about anything I put in this channel to, but seem to be more relaxed nowJul 21 01:05
razielle_tzuthere's only one channel i'm in that i sometimes have to deal with transphobia in and that's because i'm not usually around when the transphobes areJul 21 01:06
SebthreeBQM10HDbut most people in genearl who come to this channel don't really care much about what they put in itJul 21 01:06
razielle_tzui knowJul 21 01:07
SebthreeBQM10HDand  I see that a lot from you actusallyJul 21 01:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, IRC is mostly for fun or out of boredom I guess really,  unless it's for like support for something, or a project meeting or something like thatJul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDcertain channels more so than othersJul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDcertian channels are just uhJul 21 01:08
razielle_tzuinfo, help with things and general chat for me :)Jul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDsince waht people genrally chat  about etcJul 21 01:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, like the Aspergers channels on here for example uhJul 21 01:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and yes to your point earlier, it's easier to be who we want to be on iRC for example :)Jul 21 01:10
razielle_tzuit was easier for me to do that offline before admitting it to some people on hereJul 21 01:10
SebthreeBQM10HDyou can be pretty much whoever you want to be in fact onlineJul 21 01:10
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, offline oh ?Jul 21 01:11
SebthreeBQM10HDand people on here oh ?Jul 21 01:11
razielle_tzuyeah, i came out to my mother and fiancée before i came out to my friends on hereJul 21 01:11
SebthreeBQM10HDfinancee a woman ?Jul 21 01:11
razielle_tzuyupJul 21 01:11
SebthreeBQM10HDthing is now your doing it in public basically since this channel will get logged, but I guess that's been done before anyway soJul 21 01:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, on  occasion it can be useful to have this channel logged, but I think mostly there's not much point realyJul 21 01:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, anyway I think we have become freinds on here :) definetly Jul 21 01:14
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 01:14
SebthreeBQM10HDso girl/guy whateverJul 21 01:14
SebthreeBQM10HDit's more common now as well I thik generally or starting to be, people like thatJul 21 01:15
SebthreeBQM10HDor well in this kiknd of country anyway it seemsJul 21 01:15
razielle_tzuit's not that it's more common, it's that more people are coming out and willing to transitionJul 21 01:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, p m ?Jul 21 01:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google is making it harder to root Android 7.0 NougatJul 21 08:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 BrainBread 2, an utterly ridiculous Source engine poweredJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 FPS is now free on Steam with Linux supportJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/nwVIRCdYDi (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BrainBread 2, an utterly ridiculous Source engine powered FPS is now free on Steam with Linux support | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756040416877830144Jul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Rust has now sold over 30 thousand copies on LinuxJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DMdVvZaXO6 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rust has now sold over 30 thousand copies on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756041555337744384Jul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel's Mesa Driver Appears Ready For OpenGL 4.5Jul 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xXg7Oh8G0M (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 09:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756042047937798144Jul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 SJVN Talks FOSS, Linux, Microsoft & More…Jul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZF87c7C5wd (fossforce.com)Jul 21 09:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | SJVN Talks FOSS, Linux, Microsoft & More… | FOSS ForceJul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756042314557030400Jul 21 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Mutter 3.21.4 https://t.co/GtQhltrZIh (mail.gnome.org)Jul 21 09:30
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cubexyzfoss force offline... bad gateway :-.Jul 21 16:03
razielle_tzuo.OJul 21 16:11
cubexyznow it's workingJul 21 16:11
razielle_tzufair, i didn't notice any issuesJul 21 16:12
razielle_tzuthen again i'm downloading images for the pi i have right now for tomorrow's potential showcase :DJul 21 16:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111061166665728Jul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Privacy Violations, Fedora: Season's PickJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pfFWiokgwY (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Privacy Violations, Fedora: Season's Pick | Tux MachinesJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756111062252957696Jul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 24 - And we represent! https://t.co/zrXSnJ1hAaJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 16:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 - And we represent! | Tux MachinesJul 21 16:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756135229396430848Jul 21 16:14
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/BEvOrTvab1Jul 21 16:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 16:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Desktop | Tux MachinesJul 21 16:14
cubexyzI've just noticed they cropped out quite a bit of X11R6 from slackwareJul 21 16:19
cubexyzor I guess it would be X11R7 nowJul 21 16:20
razielle_tzui don't keep up with slackware, maybe should change that after i had issues with antergos last nightJul 21 16:21
cubexyzit could be they shunted parts of X11 into a different package I haven't installedJul 21 16:22
razielle_tzui couldn't get the prop drivers for my graphics card to compile due to unmet dependencies, which in turn wouldn't compile :/Jul 21 16:22
razielle_tzuwhich meant i couldnt get steam and a few other gfx heavy things runningJul 21 16:23
cubexyzthat must be a new thing... I don't seem to remember that at allJul 21 16:27
razielle_tzuyeah, it seems to be. everything works fine on mint though so for now i'm back on thatJul 21 16:30
cubexyzI know the FC1 stuff fairly well :)Jul 21 16:33
cubexyzand I probably know Unix v5, v6, and v7 better than I know FC1Jul 21 16:34
razielle_tzu:)Jul 21 16:34
razielle_tzuaside from a keyboard and mouse i think i'm ready to show off a pi tomorrow....Jul 21 16:35
razielle_tzuthree different SD cards with osmc, NOOBS and risc on them... NOOBS i'll probably use for scratch or raspbianJul 21 16:38
cubexyzI think you get mathematica with that Jul 21 16:40
cubexyzor can get it Jul 21 16:41
cubexyzit might be part of NOOBSJul 21 16:41
razielle_tzui'm not sure what's included with noobs, just that it's nearly 2GB as it is, i'll check tomorrow before the club startsJul 21 16:41
razielle_tzushame i couldn't get osmc (or an earlier version) working properly on that terminalJul 21 16:42
cubexyzmathematica itself isn't really my cup of tea Jul 21 16:42
cubexyzproprietaryJul 21 16:43
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 16:43
razielle_tzui've already thrown most of what i need into a bag for tomorrow, it's just my keyboard and trackball left to pack but i'm using them :PJul 21 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756152843397062656Jul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 ONOS Project and ONF Deliver First White Box and OpenJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Leaf-Spine Fabric for Data CentersJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sunBecoRbS (www.marketwired.com)Jul 21 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | ONOS Project and ONF Deliver First White Box and Open Source Leaf-Spine Fabric for Data CentersJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756155218459373569Jul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 $5 Omega2 Linux Mini PC Designed For The Internet OfJul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Things And More (video)  https://t.co/G4Nuc7iwj1Jul 21 17:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.geeky-gadgets.com) https://t.co/pQagpqRIJRJul 21 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | $5 Omega2 Linux Mini PC Designed For The Internet Of Things And More (video) - Geeky GadgetsJul 21 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Onion brings Omega2: a $5 Linux powered IoT board | TheTechNewsJul 21 17:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 Graduates: How to Get Your Dream Open Source JobJul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/emH6TqJDUB (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 21 17:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graduates: How to Get Your Dream Open Source Job | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756159352793276417Jul 21 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS in Networking https://t.co/dHA07124qsJul 21 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756160604352552961Jul 21 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Evolution of Linux Containers and FutureJul 21 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/p6WSR7emPr (dzone.com)Jul 21 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756162489516040193Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Shadows of Kurgansk, a good looking single-player actionJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 and survival game now on Linux & SteamOSJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/gSvx1WdB6a (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shadows of Kurgansk, a good looking single-player action and survival game now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756162702960189441Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Buds vs Bad Guys, the action platformer from a dadJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 and son team has been fully funded and coming to LinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sAGtmFPbPF (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Buds vs Bad Guys, the action platformer from a dad and son team has been fully funded and coming to Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756163338564808704Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Quadrant, an interesting survival horror is now on LinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 & SteamOS https://t.co/jA4Idp9Rw2 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quadrant, an interesting survival horror is now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756163509881372672Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Dungeon Rushers, a 2D tactical RPG and dungeon crawlerJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 now on Linux https://t.co/RouC0MX3wrJul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 17:35
TweetTuxMachines Jul 21 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dungeon Rushers, a 2D tactical RPG and dungeon crawler now on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 17:35
razielle_tzucubexyz: blue is a great colour, on my partner :PJul 21 17:45
razielle_tzui prefer reds and blacksJul 21 17:45
cubexyzok :)Jul 21 17:45
razielle_tzuxDJul 21 17:46
razielle_tzuso later it's going a deep redJul 21 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 Korora 24 Screenshot TourJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/N3qKLU8fRv (www.linuxscreenshots.org)Jul 21 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Korora 24 Screenshot TourJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172360873603072Jul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 This New Android Is Like the Swiss Army Knife of PhonesJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YrkWOES2mo (time.com)Jul 21 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Moto Z Review: The Android Phone That TransformsJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172613987229696Jul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 In Search of a Linux iTunes ReplacementJul 21 18:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pz5BRFd2eQ (fossforce.com)Jul 21 18:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | In Search of a Linux iTunes Replacement | FOSS ForceJul 21 18:03
cubexyzxbc is an interesting little program... an example of minimalist programming I'd dare sayJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756172754185924609Jul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 The Ubuntu-powered BQ Aquaris M10 tablet: Almost amazingJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/C0wCchzoiL (www.networkworld.com)Jul 21 18:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | The Ubuntu-powered BQ Aquaris M10 tablet: Almost amazing | Network WorldJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173079555010560Jul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Why and How to Use Ring Instead of Skype on LinuxJul 21 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RegMBqXKi5 (www.linux.com)Jul 21 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173189718302720Jul 21 18:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS released https://t.co/M1VqT19wVFJul 21 18:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.ubuntu.com)Jul 21 18:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173320031117312Jul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of AllJul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Phones https://t.co/SEDL1ZSNhhJul 21 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jul 21 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173491250966529Jul 21 18:09
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE LLC’s SUSE Manager https://t.co/n5tBPq289pJul 21 18:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Jul 21 18:09
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razielle_tzui don't think i've used xbcJul 21 18:09
cubexyzmost likely notJul 21 18:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756173842180079616Jul 21 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux,Jul 21 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 some thoughts and a port report https://t.co/JR4pFXFzOPJul 21 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 21 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux, some thoughts and a port report | GamingOnLinuxJul 21 18:10
cubexyzxbc is not part of any distro I don't thinkJul 21 18:13
razielle_tzunot that i know ofJul 21 18:14
cubexyzit's Xt/Motif stuffJul 21 18:15
razielle_tzuah yeah, then no i've not used itJul 21 18:16
cubexyzan example of programmng a GUI for bc :)Jul 21 18:16
cubexyzit's from the book "The X Window System: Programming and Applications with Xt"Jul 21 18:16
razielle_tzucoolJul 21 18:17
razielle_tzuoh yeah, so seb is finally caught up on most of the things the channel as a whole knows about me >.<Jul 21 18:17
cubexyzthere's also an AI bot processing the logs :)Jul 21 18:18
razielle_tzuthat doesn't bother meJul 21 18:18
razielle_tzui keep my own logs anyway unless the founder of a channel asks us not toJul 21 18:19
cubexyzI think it's safe to say this is a pro-logging channel :)Jul 21 18:19
razielle_tzuyeahJul 21 18:19
cubexyzI asked some of the original X developers about the first paint programJul 21 18:20
cubexyzbut no one could remember writing oneJul 21 18:20
razielle_tzulolJul 21 18:21
razielle_tzubut yeah, somehow he missed the memo that i'm a trans lesbian about to start a BSc in computingJul 21 18:21
cubexyzseb still needs to learn a bit about Unix tooJul 21 18:21
razielle_tzuyeah he doesJul 21 18:21
razielle_tzui'm getting sick of hearing him talk about his tablet and keyboard or ubuntu touchJul 21 18:23
cubexyzhahaJul 21 18:23
razielle_tzuit's almost all he talks about in public if he's not asking questions, in private he's better but still has one track most of the timeJul 21 18:24
razielle_tzui asked him if he's paid as a shill for them and got a convoluted response that didn't answer the questionJul 21 18:25
razielle_tzuso i asked if he's a politician and got the same kind of answerJul 21 18:25
cubexyzyeah I just you just have to try to be extra patient with himJul 21 18:28
razielle_tzui was having trouble focusing on what he was saying due to my meds though and wanted a straight answerJul 21 18:29
*TweetTuxMachines @Glatorcom favourited 'Overlord and Overlord: Raising Hell released for Linux,...'Jul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756177825346883586Jul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA To Meet With Wayland, Linux Kernel Developers ToJul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Discuss GBM vs. Streams https://t.co/7YtVbS0cxEJul 21 18:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jul 21 18:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA To Meet With Wayland, Linux Kernel Developers To Discuss GBM vs. Streams - PhoronixJul 21 18:34
cubexyzwell if someone is disordered in their thinking or constantly jumping from topic to topic then anyone would find that difficult to processJul 21 18:36
razielle_tzuusually i can keep up but my meds make me sleepy and a little dizzyJul 21 18:39
razielle_tzuat least until i get used to them againJul 21 18:39
cubexyzI can cite many examples of programmers that wrote long programs and nary a comment and also no man page or any other documentationJul 21 19:04
cubexyzUnix v5's man pages didn't really surviveJul 21 19:05
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cubexyzanyways, I'm trying to not do that :)Jul 21 19:08
razielle_tzulack of documentation can kill a projectJul 21 19:09
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TweetTuxMachines                 Interoute gets certification from Red HatJul 21 19:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756180760214765568Jul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Zipt free voice calling app selected as Marquee app forJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen https://t.co/hPqb3PSzPt (www.tizenexperts.com)Jul 21 19:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756189206343397376Jul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Andromium’s $99 Superbook turns your Android phone into aJul 21 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 laptop (crowdfunding) https://t.co/Qao8AkUmTGJul 21 19:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634946Jul 21 20:37
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634577Jul 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Interoute gets certification from #RedHat http://www.telecompaper.com/news/interoute-gets-certification-from-red-hat--1154305 ttp://www.realwire.com/releases/Interoute-becomes-first-European-Red-Hat-Certified-Cloud-and-Service #gnu #linuxJul 21 20:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7633878Jul 21 20:37
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The...'Jul 21 21:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/voltraco/status/756218113067192320Jul 21 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@voltraco: @schestowitz We're working on a music player for Linux, check it out! https://t.co/FbYF2evCB2Jul 21 21:07
schestowitzNice site and git repoJul 21 21:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/7634489Jul 21 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu Phones http://news.softpedia.com/news/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-edition-review-the-king-of-all-ubuntu-phones-506501.shtmlJul 21 21:12
schestowitz"Jul 21 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Review - The King of All Ubuntu Phones [ http://ur1.ca/ph4r3 ]Jul 21 21:12
schestowitz@Roy – maybe less posts, but with more @Roy input/thought on each one?Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzIt kinda is just a dump of news bits that one can get from a LINUX RSS feed.Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzeg:Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzThe Meizu Pro 5 Flyme OS version has a growing number of bad reviews…syncing issues, email issues, etc.Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzDoes the Ubuntu version correct all of this meaning the problems are all for sure OS-related?Jul 21 21:12
schestowitz"Jul 21 21:12
schestowitzLinux RSS feeds are, IMHO, not that helpful as there's no decent quality control (user-submitted). I already divided my output into Linux and "the rest". Is there too much Linux-related stuff?Jul 21 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@voltraco        http://twitter.com/voltraco/status/756218040719642625Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines We're working on a music player for Linux,Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 check it out! https://t.co/FbYF2evCB2 (voltra.co)Jul 21 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voltra.co | Voltra Co. | Audio Player for Music CollectorsJul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756220037577318404Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18Jul 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 “Sarah” Xfce Beta https://t.co/KStiMQh730Jul 21 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/7/2016: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” Xfce Beta | TechrightsJul 21 21:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756231919600144384Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Source OS https://t.co/DZGf5tL5Bs (thevarguy.com)Jul 21 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232686218293248Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 The Linux Foundation Announces Agenda for LinuxCon andJul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | The Linux Foundation Announces Agenda for LinuxCon and ContainerCon EuropeJul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and Games | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232864128053248Jul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/wPSHCvVoFdJul 21 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232864765612033Jul 21 22:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great OpenJul 21 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mandriva Linux: A Look Back at the Late, Great Open Source OS | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756232861728944130Jul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/OEh6rHfjCZJul 21 22:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux MachinesJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756237352645844992Jul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 "Gamepad support has now been merged into GNOME GamesJul 21 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 v3.21.4 !!!"  https://t.co/TMv5TiU0o1Jul 21 22:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meghprkh.github.io | The state of gamepad support in Games | Megh's BlogJul 21 22:28
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TweetTuxMachines                 NEC Added to Red Hat’s Certified Cloud & Service ProviderJul 21 22:28
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razielle_tzuhmm... pi 3 plus hardware or the vega+ (zx emulator wtih lots of games)...Jul 22 14:02
razielle_tzuthis is my choice of gift to receive for my birthdayJul 22 14:02
cubexyzI'm thinking more along the lines of a nice FPGA board... but it's an indulgenceJul 22 14:11
razielle_tzutbh there's not much hardware available for the pi 3 yet so i'm more likely to go for a pi 2 plus some gear if i don't go for the vega+Jul 22 14:12
cubexyzno minimig? :)Jul 22 14:13
razielle_tzuhehJul 22 14:13
razielle_tzuall of the kits i've seen so far are only updated as far as the pi 2 :/Jul 22 14:13
razielle_tzuthe vega+ is a zx handheld emulator that supports games/software from both versions and almost the entire library is free now :DJul 22 14:14
razielle_tzuif you can do it right you can even port your own code to itJul 22 14:14
razielle_tzuhttp://retrocomputerslimited.com/vega-plus/Jul 22 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-retrocomputerslimited.com | ZX Vega Plus | Retro ComputersRetro ComputersJul 22 14:16
cubexyzbut is that the same as the ZX81?Jul 22 14:17
cubexyzmaybe it's more advancedJul 22 14:19
razielle_tzuit's a complete reworking that is supported by Sinclair himselfJul 22 14:21
razielle_tzudesigned and developed by a former ZX game designer and the guy who designed the ZX80, ZX81, ZX Spectrum and QL computersJul 22 14:23
cubexyzit would be hard for me to go back to 8-bitJul 22 14:27
razielle_tzuit wouldn't for me, i still have a spectrum and sometimes play some of the old games on it.. well i did when i could get an mp3 player to work as the audio input for loading anywayJul 22 14:29
cubexyzI'll go back to the PDP-11/20 instead :)Jul 22 14:35
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 14:37
razielle_tzuwith the right gear i could make my own zx emulator from a pi...Jul 22 14:37
cubexyzsureJul 22 14:38
cubexyzor any of your desktops for that matterJul 22 14:39
razielle_tzui was thinking more handheldJul 22 14:39
razielle_tzulike a TFT screen with one of the joystick HATs and a battery packJul 22 14:39
cubexyzsee, I'd want to write programs for it then I'd have the keyboard problemJul 22 14:43
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 14:43
cubexyzI had a hand held Linux ... the zaurusJul 22 14:44
cubexyzit had this super tiny keyboard thing Jul 22 14:44
razielle_tzui figured write them in an emu on my desktop or laptop and then port them over once done and testedJul 22 14:44
razielle_tzuwhich model zaurus?Jul 22 14:45
cubexyzSL-5500Jul 22 14:46
razielle_tzuyeah that has a tiny keyboardJul 22 14:46
cubexyzit was cheap but it wasn't ideal for my purposesJul 22 14:46
razielle_tzui wouldn't say $350 now is cheap though :PJul 22 14:46
cubexyzI got it on ebay for $40Jul 22 14:47
razielle_tzuah fairJul 22 14:47
razielle_tzucheapest i see on amazon right now is $98 and the most expensive for a supposedly brand new one is $350Jul 22 14:47
razielle_tzuand one refurb for $199Jul 22 14:47
cubexyzthere's a CL-C3000 for $109 buy it now :)Jul 22 14:49
razielle_tzui think i'll get killed if i buy more things i'm not likely to use that often ;)Jul 22 14:49
cubexyzI should have tried scp on the zaurusJul 22 14:50
cubexyzcan't remember if there was scp for itJul 22 14:50
cubexyzbut it wasn't a bad linux boxJul 22 14:51
cubexyzvery tiny LCD Jul 22 14:52
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 14:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Keeweb A Linux Password Manager https://t.co/fpfbdd4R8HJul 22 15:02
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cubexyzI'm quite pleased with my porting to unix v5Jul 22 15:02
razielle_tzui would be too tbhJul 22 15:03
cubexyzthe funny thing is.. the assembly language code is the easiest to portJul 22 15:04
cubexyzit never changed like c language didJul 22 15:04
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 15:04
cubexyzprobably the closest I've ever come to completely understanding an OSJul 22 15:05
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razielle_tzui think you'd get on great with a friend of mine in another channel, she's porting a minimac (or something along those lines) emulator to the 3DSJul 22 15:06
razielle_tzushe's working on the GUI for it nowJul 22 15:06
cubexyzthe nintendo thing?Jul 22 15:08
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:08
cubexyza bit of a strange project wouldn't you say? :)Jul 22 15:09
cubexyzok, my projects are strange, but I use a real keyboardJul 22 15:09
razielle_tzuit is but she loves early apple stuff (for some reason) and this is the first project that has held her attention in a whileJul 22 15:09
razielle_tzushe does all the work on a computer and then ports and tests it on her 3DSJul 22 15:09
cubexyzdoes the 3ds have a usb port?Jul 22 15:10
razielle_tzui'm not sureJul 22 15:10
razielle_tzuit does have usb charging but i'm not sure about other supportJul 22 15:11
cubexyzoh I think there's some form of wireless keyboard for the 3ds, that explains a lotJul 22 15:11
cubexyzthere was another oddball project involving ummm simhJul 22 15:12
razielle_tzushe's looking to use just the native hardware though, once it is finished anywayJul 22 15:12
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cubexyzwell reuse is importantJul 22 15:13
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:14
cubexyzoh yeah now I remember....Jul 22 15:14
cubexyzsomebody used a game boy advance to run simh :)Jul 22 15:14
razielle_tzucool, strange but coolJul 22 15:15
cubexyzwhat I do makes a bit more senseJul 22 15:16
cubexyzI made my own Unix v5 distro, but I'm not going to put it on a video game thingJul 22 15:17
razielle_tzui wouldn't either tbfJul 22 15:17
cubexyzand I had a good reason tooJul 22 15:17
razielle_tzuat the same time though it teaches her a few things she wouldn't learn without a project like thisJul 22 15:17
cubexyzUnix v5 is the oldest working Unix that I would consider useableJul 22 15:18
cubexyzthe oldest most elegant, most compact systemJul 22 15:18
razielle_tzudefinitely, from what i've seen/read on it anywayJul 22 15:18
cubexyzyou must use the lowest level C function calls, so that's a learning eperience in itselfJul 22 15:19
cubexyzthere's really two big botch-ups in Unix history...Jul 22 15:20
cubexyzthe original botch-up:Jul 22 15:20
cubexyzUnix v6 was not allowed (after a certain date) to be modified outside of bell labsJul 22 15:21
cubexyzbotch-up number two:Jul 22 15:21
cubexyzbarely anyone switched to Unix/Linux in 1994Jul 22 15:21
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 15:22
cubexyzbut even worse... I didn't manage it myselfJul 22 15:23
razielle_tzua few people have said i should learn to make my own OS... my usual response is, i can make my own linux distro but that's about it right nowJul 22 15:23
cubexyzgee, why stop there :)Jul 22 15:24
cubexyzbuild your own computer from stratch firstJul 22 15:24
cubexyzscratchJul 22 15:24
razielle_tzuwell it's not really making my own distro, it's following LFS or using a studio to put one together. i probably could with enough time and materials tbhJul 22 15:25
razielle_tzugive me enough valves and pipes and i can throw together one that runs on water ;)Jul 22 15:27
cubexyzsee, the thing is a modern Linux is really the aggregation of a ton of different thingsJul 22 15:29
cubexyzreally it's too much for one person to write it allJul 22 15:30
razielle_tzujust a bitJul 22 15:30
cubexyznow you could write a simple OS, but then what? would you add tcp/ip capability, text processing, multi-user, multi-tasking?Jul 22 15:30
razielle_tzupeople would want everything but do you add it as an actual part of the kernel or as modules so the advanced users can pick and choose what to load?Jul 22 15:32
cubexyzwell I kind of do that in reverse...Jul 22 15:34
cubexyzI unload modules I don't useJul 22 15:34
razielle_tzuwith most distros it's the only way to do it now, almost everything seems to be loaded by defaultJul 22 15:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rabite/status/756496912988180481Jul 22 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rabite: @schestowitz @LauriLoveX it is impossible to sue the feds. They have sovereign immunity.Jul 22 15:38
schestowitzLike EPO, which i write a lot about these days http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPOJul 22 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - TechrightsJul 22 15:38
cubexyzbaseline Unix v5 was pretty barrenJul 22 15:46
cubexyzI had to do a ton of work to get it to a decent stateJul 22 15:47
razielle_tzuyeah but you didJul 22 15:47
cubexyzthere was rk (disk drive), tm (magtape), tc (dectape) and 8dc (dc-11 communications interface)Jul 22 15:49
cubexyzthen the trap vectors and the config table :)Jul 22 15:50
cubexyzso at least I knew what file did whatJul 22 15:50
cubexyzthen I studied the icode... the octal bootstrap program that brings up the systemJul 22 15:51
cubexyzso added the device drivers I needed, compiled the kernel, ported all the utilities I wantedJul 22 15:53
razielle_tzuthat's cool and i'd love to check it out now that i'm running nothing but linux. maybe some other time though when my meds have settled and i can focus a little moreJul 22 15:54
cubexyzrebuild libc.a too, it was missing some functions it should have hadJul 22 15:58
cubexyzthe baseline starting point... the files I started with are in uv5swre.zipJul 22 16:00
cubexyzdid I give the new distro out or not?Jul 22 16:01
razielle_tzui don't rememberJul 22 16:02
cubexyzoh yeah I did actually :)Jul 22 16:03
cubexyznot the newest one thoughJul 22 16:03
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5-feb-2015.tar.gzJul 22 16:04
cubexyzanyways, I'm not done with it yetJul 22 16:05
razielle_tzudownloading for later :)Jul 22 16:05
cubexyzplease doJul 22 16:05
razielle_tzuit just finished downloading :)Jul 22 16:05
cubexyzhaven't finished all the man pages yetJul 22 16:06
razielle_tzufair enoughJul 22 16:06
cubexyzbut the readme file should be a decent starting pointJul 22 16:06
razielle_tzui'm also looking at your FOSS-matrixJul 22 16:06
razielle_tzui already use most, if not all, of the suggested stuff in place of the stuff you suggest avoiding :PJul 22 16:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tgtStudios/status/756506627004661760Jul 22 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tgtStudios: @schestowitz we're 90% funded with <1 week to go! https://t.co/chWQIBacxcJul 22 16:12
razielle_tzuhmm.. tried to call the .sh from my terminal and it closes because ~/simh/PDP11/v5-org doesn't existJul 22 16:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756506717488308225Jul 22 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Markt&Technik, the book & magazine publisher I worked with in the '80s, was based in Haar. Not too bad trafficwise, actually.Jul 22 16:13
razielle_tzualso the commands on lines 6 and 7 aren't foundJul 22 16:13
schestowitzComments mostly spoke about lack of hotels in that areas. I guess whatever makes it less convenient will help scuttle them faster.Jul 22 16:13
cubexyzyeah you'll need conv2Jul 22 16:14
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/conv2.cJul 22 16:15
razielle_tzuwhat about the pdp11 stuff? that was another command not foundJul 22 16:15
cubexyzok, you also need simh itself for the magic to happen :)Jul 22 16:15
razielle_tzuokJul 22 16:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756507843012993024Jul 22 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz When driving on the main street there, Wasserburger Landstraße, one hardly even notices the city border. Like a part of Munich.Jul 22 16:16
schestowitzbased on the map I saw, 10km away from Munich's centreJul 22 16:16
cubexyzit's not even that bigJul 22 16:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/simv38-1.zipJul 22 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/simv38-1.zip )Jul 22 16:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/simhv38-1.zipJul 22 16:17
cubexyzthere might be a package thing for it, but I compiled it from sourceJul 22 16:17
razielle_tzui'll check for a package before compiling from source, might need to set a dev env up anywayJul 22 16:18
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razielle_tzuooo the simh package has 33 emulators in itJul 22 16:19
cubexyzthere's a bunch of neat stuff in there... interdata, ibm 1130, vax alsoJul 22 16:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756508621287067648Jul 22 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That's about right. You might want to compare that to the distance between the airport and the city center :-)Jul 22 16:19
schestowitzIn my article I even linked to the map (see under summary)Jul 22 16:20
razielle_tzuyeah the only one they couldn't include the microcode for is the DEC VAXJul 22 16:20
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cubexyzyeah now I remember... on openbsd you could just "pkg_add simh"Jul 22 16:23
razielle_tzuapt-get install for me, i'm on mintJul 22 16:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756509535133638656Jul 22 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Lawyers who go to the appeals board meetings are often based in Munich anyway. If they're not, they'll just stay downtown.Jul 22 16:25
schestowitzI spoke to some who had to travel themselves for the appeals (from the UK)Jul 22 16:26
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TweetTuxMachines                 Keeweb A Linux Password Manager https://t.co/FuaqFmyEGwJul 22 16:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 Hands-On: Updating Fedora 23 to 24 via Gnome SoftwareJul 22 16:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756509411485573120Jul 22 16:27
TweetTuxMachines                 How I use Linux for theoretical physicsJul 22 16:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756510995116335105Jul 22 16:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Hands-On: Updating Fedora 23 to 24 via Gnome SoftwareJul 22 16:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/YBmfLiuUoX (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 22 16:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756511392556089344  https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/756511988252016640 Jul 22 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz On such a trip it doesn't really matter whether someone needs a 20- or may be 30-euro cab ride from downtown Munich to Haar.Jul 22 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Battistelli's original idea of relocating them to Vienna, Berlin or whatever was so much worse that Haar is like a concession.Jul 22 16:32
schestowitzYes, I mentioned that, but still... I think the long-term plan is to rent some temporary space there until UPCJul 22 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines                 How I use Linux for theoretical physicsJul 22 16:33
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cubexyzI think I put the qmc stuff in /usr/local/qmcJul 22 16:33
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cubexyzlet's see.. additions include: clear, file, nl (number), reset, fold, head, tail, pg, df (modified), ls1 (columnar ls) Jul 22 16:35
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJul 22 19:19
razielle_tzuo/Jul 22 19:20
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJul 22 19:21
razielle_tzuhow are you?Jul 22 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HDok you?Jul 22 19:21
razielle_tzupretty goodJul 22 19:22
razielle_tzuoh yeah cubexyz i worked out what was wrong with that sd card, it wasn't formatting properly so i had to use a different computer to sort it out, everything is sorted nowJul 22 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, that was fun a litle while ago,  was reading  load of comments to some article,  the debate if a tablet/phone for most people can replace a computer or not for most things etcJul 22 19:24
razielle_tzuit can but it's not always a good idea depending on the workJul 22 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah, but foor basics a tablet is greatJul 22 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen you want more specifc things still a computerJul 22 19:25
razielle_tzuwhich is the point i was trying to make beforeJul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDUbuntu convergence is intresting for exampleJul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I think that right there could be intersing to show at an event Jul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDyes those people may not just buy a device, but to get the idea it's there etc coming Jul 22 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HDand how easy it to have Ubuntu in this case on a tabletJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDeasier than a non techi trying to put it on a computerJul 22 19:27
razielle_tzui would look into it more if i had the hardware to run it on but i don't and i'm more interested in pi projects and the Vega+Jul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDoh you have seen the Vega+ as well as have IJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDI didn't have the money to crowd fund the spare money back in MarchJul 22 19:27
razielle_tzui'm getting one for my birthdayJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HD,but can still buy the retial version via indiegogo it seemsJul 22 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HDthe black versiionJul 22 19:27
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDlooks intereesting yes, for old spectrum gamesJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDmaybe my chinese android device can emulate them to not sueJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDgaming deviceJul 22 19:28
razielle_tzuanything you can run on a spectrum CAN be ported to it, not just the gamesJul 22 19:28
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat to android ?Jul 22 19:29
SebthreeBQM10HDwhen is your birthday as well ?Jul 22 19:29
SebthreeBQM10HDmine is coming up rather soonJul 22 19:29
razielle_tzuoctoberJul 22 19:30
razielle_tzuand no i mean to the Vega+Jul 22 19:31
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, sometimes get issues with this tablet and bluettooh keyboard and the irc client in libertine xchat gnomeJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDwhere can't type suddenlyJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDnot sure whyJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDback now though after a re bootJul 22 19:34
razielle_tzufair enoughJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDmy birthday is next weekJul 22 19:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, yeah the vega+ seemed interetig Jul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDloadsd of old game legally as wellJul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDand yeahJul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, when you find out about that ?Jul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDdid you crowd fund or?Jul 22 19:35
SebthreeBQM10HDthey had a previous one last year as wellJul 22 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I got that to pre order and a chinese device as well next monthJul 22 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDreallyJul 22 19:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor whateverJul 22 19:36
razielle_tzubrb, eatingJul 22 19:38
SebthreeBQM10HDokJul 22 19:38
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razielle_tzumy fiancee heard about it, she gets a few crowd funding newsletters and asked what i thought about itJul 22 19:41
cubexyzok, I updated Unix v5a to latest and greatestJul 22 19:42
razielle_tzui had a look and said i wanted one so she's ordering one when her student finance comes in for the new yearJul 22 19:42
razielle_tzucool cubexyzJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDoh crowd funding news letters such as?Jul 22 19:42
razielle_tzuones from indiegogo and kickstarter mostlyJul 22 19:42
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5a-jul-22-2016.tar.gzJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah I guess thre's a mailing list for thoseJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDnot on them thoughJul 22 19:42
SebthreeBQM10HDshould probably be reallyJul 22 19:43
razielle_tzucubexyz: bit of a date gap between the two isn't there?Jul 22 19:43
cubexyzyeah it was time for an update :)Jul 22 19:44
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 19:44
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, ok pm me now I got a question Jul 22 19:44
razielle_tzuover a year :PJul 22 19:44
cubexyzthis version has a lot of good ideas insideJul 22 19:46
razielle_tzucoolJul 22 19:46
razielle_tzui'[ll take a look soon]Jul 22 19:46
cubexyzcan't remember all the differencesJul 22 19:47
razielle_tzui'm sure i'll come across themJul 22 19:48
cubexyzthere's hangman, tic tac toe, moo, blackjack, factor, primes plus a bunch of other stuff I've forgottenJul 22 19:48
razielle_tzuawesomeJul 22 19:48
cubexyzword1 spits out a random word from the dictionary (yes Unix v5 had a dictionary)Jul 22 19:48
razielle_tzuxDJul 22 19:49
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz, you old dude, Unix uhmm, it's mostly about Linux now :DJul 22 19:50
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh hehJul 22 19:50
SebthreeBQM10HDnot your Fedora Core 1 though, that's to old :DJul 22 19:50
razielle_tzuunix rocks, you should learn itJul 22 19:51
SebthreeBQM10HDUni is old skool except for BSDJul 22 19:51
SebthreeBQM10HDUnixJul 22 19:51
cubexyzwell I hear folks still learn history in schoolJul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDnot tech history thoughJul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDor hardlyJul 22 19:52
cubexyzyou didn't learn about Babbage or ENIAC?Jul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDbabbge maybe to some extentJul 22 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HDother one I don't think soJul 22 19:52
razielle_tzui learned bothJul 22 19:53
cubexyzfirst electronic general purpose computer... very significantJul 22 19:53
razielle_tzuvery is an understatementJul 22 19:53
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cubexyzI actually do play hangman on v5 sometimesJul 22 19:58
cubexyzthat was from qmcJul 22 19:58
cubexyzthat's why there's two different ar commandsJul 22 19:58
cubexyzthe original ar plus ar-newJul 22 19:58
cubexyzhad to use ar-new to unarchived the qmc stuffJul 22 19:59
razielle_tzufairJul 22 20:00
cubexyzit's y2k ready tooJul 22 20:04
cubexyzthe original date, ls, sh and who were renamed to date.old, ls.old, etcJul 22 20:05
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cubexyzed had a 128K filesize limit...but... none of the original files were that bigJul 22 20:18
cubexyzand v5 doesn't really have a dictionary... it's merely a wordlistJul 22 20:20
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SebthreeBQM10HDback typing issues thingey againJul 22 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HDa diffenret one though or whateverJul 22 20:21
cubexyzspell sh will print out all the words starting with shJul 22 20:21
cubexyzso it's a spelling aidJul 22 20:22
razielle_tzu:DJul 22 20:24
cubexyzin modern linux you would do:Jul 22 20:30
cubexyzcat /usr/share/dict/words | grep ^shJul 22 20:30
cubexyzah, same for bsd I would thinkJul 22 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, woo get to leave the country for a bit next month :dJul 22 20:37
razielle_tzucoolJul 22 20:37
SebthreeBQM10HD Canada here  I come to kill cubexyz oh yeah!Jul 22 20:39
razielle_tzuo.OJul 22 20:39
razielle_tzunoJul 22 20:39
SebthreeBQM10HDyeah he's getting to oldJul 22 20:40
razielle_tzunoJul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDit's time to kill him off :dJul 22 20:40
razielle_tzuwho else is going to maintain v5 though?Jul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDyouJul 22 20:40
razielle_tzui can't do it yetJul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDneed the young onesJul 22 20:40
SebthreeBQM10HDto take overJul 22 20:40
cubexyzthe original unix dudes are dying off, it's me or nothing :)Jul 22 20:41
razielle_tzui'll help when i've learned a bit moreJul 22 20:41
razielle_tzu:DJul 22 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I am actually going out of the country for real, but luckily for cubexyz not to track him down etc, or am I :dJul 22 20:41
razielle_tzulolJul 22 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, looks like my Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu phone is going to that country again and a new device as wellJul 22 20:42
razielle_tzufairJul 22 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, but it came from Hong Kong directly, maybe that gaming tablet has a  hidden bomb in it or somethingJul 22 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HD:dJul 22 20:43
cubexyzI thought Unix v5 was a lot more fun than LFSJul 22 20:44
razielle_tzui didn't like LFSJul 22 20:44
razielle_tzudunno whyJul 22 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HDwhy notJul 22 20:44
razielle_tzuit was a few years ago that i tried it, can't remember what i didn't like or why i got rid of it once i was doneJul 22 20:45
cubexyzrote learning is rarely funJul 22 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HDyou bad nerd geek you!Jul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Jul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDhow dare you get rid of LFS like that :DJul 22 20:46
razielle_tzui'll do what i wantJul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDh ehJul 22 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HDand you call yourself an arch user as well :DJul 22 20:46
razielle_tzulolJul 22 20:46
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razielle_tzui have it on three laptops, each configured differentlyJul 22 20:46
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SebthreeBQM10HDput some Gentoo on there right now razielle_tzu :Jul 22 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HDdJul 22 20:47
razielle_tzunoJul 22 20:47
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SebthreeBQM10HDor fedora core 1 to attract cubexyz more properly :dJul 22 20:47
razielle_tzucubexyz: share your install and current patch set?Jul 22 20:47
cubexyzfor what? FC1?Jul 22 20:48
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HDactuallly yeah that could be somethingJul 22 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat security updates he did etcJul 22 20:48
cubexyzthere's no patch set :)Jul 22 20:48
cubexyzthere's 12 years of modificationsJul 22 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HDccJul 22 20:49
*razielle_tzu was joking but... you know ;)Jul 22 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz,  are you using that now, or old unix?Jul 22 20:49
cubexyzhahahaJul 22 20:50
cubexyzyou can't tell?Jul 22 20:50
razielle_tzulolJul 22 20:50
cubexyzif I was on Unix v5 now I would be world famous Jul 22 20:50
razielle_tzujust a littleJul 22 20:50
razielle_tzuthat would be a fun port thoughJul 22 20:51
SebthreeBQM10HDI am not geek enough to now about v5Jul 22 20:51
razielle_tzuirssi or something for v5Jul 22 20:51
cubexyzwhere do I even start? there's no ethernet driver or any form of tcp/ip in v5Jul 22 20:51
SebthreeBQM10HDoh ok so loike windows 3.1Jul 22 20:51
razielle_tzucubexyz: it's ok, we're apparently hacker enough for thisJul 22 20:52
cubexyzI can IRC from quasijarus which is a 4.3BSD derivativeJul 22 20:53
cubexyzthat's microvax, not PDP-11Jul 22 20:54
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 20:54
cubexyzthere's ummm... there's ethernet for PDP-11 in theoryJul 22 20:55
cubexyzbut certainly no IRC clientJul 22 20:55
razielle_tzunot yet ;)Jul 22 20:55
razielle_tzui believe in you cubexyzJul 22 20:55
razielle_tzuyou can do itJul 22 20:55
cubexyzgood grief the hardware didn't even exist back then for ethernetJul 22 20:59
cubexyz1974?Jul 22 20:59
razielle_tzu74-75, yeah no ethernetJul 22 20:59
cubexyzso obviously no v5 era driver eitherJul 22 21:00
cubexyzno, that would be too crazy a projectJul 22 21:00
razielle_tzuit would on reflection be kinda crazyJul 22 21:00
cubexyzyes :)Jul 22 21:01
cubexyzin 1974 there was RS232 communicationsJul 22 21:01
razielle_tzui should set icaros up again on either a laptop or a vm and see what i can port or just use from my old floppy imagesJul 22 21:02
razielle_tzuRS232 ins't really suitable for irc thoughJul 22 21:04
cubexyzIRC appeared much later in 1988Jul 22 21:06
cubexyzso 4.3BSD-Tahoe era or SunOS Jul 22 21:07
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 21:07
cubexyzFC1 isn't even the oldest Linux I runJul 22 21:08
cubexyzbut it's the oldest Linux I do actual work onJul 22 21:09
razielle_tzu:)Jul 22 21:09
cubexyzDEC messed up big-timeJul 22 21:12
cubexyzand XeroxJul 22 21:12
razielle_tzuwhich time(s)?Jul 22 21:12
cubexyzIBM beat DEC to market with a useable Personal Computer in 1981Jul 22 21:13
razielle_tzuwhich is why the format of pc most people know used to be called an ibm cloneJul 22 21:14
cubexyzXerox had the Alto in 1973, and the excellent Star 8010 in... 1981...but...Jul 22 21:14
cubexyzthe problem was the Star cost $16KJul 22 21:14
razielle_tzutrueJul 22 21:14
cubexyzthe IBM PC was originally priced at $1500 or soJul 22 21:15
razielle_tzudidn't apple and ms bite from the xerox machines for their guis and a couple of other things?Jul 22 21:15
cubexyzit still sucked though, compared to a PDP-11Jul 22 21:15
cubexyzsure... Xerox employees went to work for AppleJul 22 21:16
cubexyzDEC sort of did have a IBM PC thingJul 22 21:17
cubexyzThe DEC Pro-300 seriesJul 22 21:17
cubexyzbut it didn't really take off like the IBM PC didJul 22 21:17
razielle_tzulike i said before, i know a little of the history of computers but nowhere near as much as i feel i should but most articles are so damn dry to readJul 22 21:18
cubexyzDEC even made 286's later onJul 22 21:19
cubexyzbut DEC was a true visionary... in the mini-eraJul 22 21:20
razielle_tzui just realised i have a 1983 print of Bishop's Comprehensive Computer Studies bookJul 22 21:20
cubexyzjust not in the microcomputer eraJul 22 21:20
cubexyzheck in 1983 I still saw CP/M computersJul 22 21:24
razielle_tzuyou will have doneJul 22 21:25
razielle_tzui knew that book waas old but i didn't realise it was 33 years old xDJul 22 21:27
razielle_tzuand most of the non-installation pics show female operators stillJul 22 21:27
razielle_tzuthat wouldn't happen in a book nowJul 22 21:28
cubexyzby 1983 the big computers were PDP-10 and IBM 4341'sJul 22 21:28
razielle_tzuyeahJul 22 21:29
cubexyzyou probably wouldn't have liked those thoughJul 22 21:29
razielle_tzuoh?Jul 22 21:30
cubexyzVM/SP 3.1 was boring and utilitarianJul 22 21:31
razielle_tzua lot of the early computers were thoughJul 22 21:32
cubexyzgood for fast IO, printing out reports, doing transactions, blah blahJul 22 21:32
cubexyzboring :)Jul 22 21:32
razielle_tzunothing wrong with boring so long as you learn from it ;)Jul 22 21:34
cubexyzI thought some of the 1960s era computers were interestingJul 22 21:34
cubexyzbefore my time but interestingJul 22 21:35
razielle_tzumost things are before my time, still interesting though :PJul 22 21:35
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cubexyzhere's a screen capture of Ultrix and relatively early X11:Jul 22 21:38
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ultrix-vax-4.5-twm_1280x1024.pngJul 22 21:38
cubexyzdxpaintJul 22 21:39
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cubexyzaround 1995 or so I'd sayJul 22 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HDuh keyboard issuesJul 22 21:40
cubexyzdude, I think you need FC1 and soonJul 22 21:41
razielle_tzui know rightJul 22 21:41
razielle_tzuthe only dxpaint i really remember is Deluxe Paint III for the AmigaJul 22 21:41
razielle_tzuaround the same time as i was making music on OctamedJul 22 21:42
razielle_tzuthat was one of the first programs i used that had actual MIDI I/OJul 22 21:42
cubexyzyes, I had Deluxe Paint II for Amiga 500Jul 22 21:42
cubexyzseems pretty awesome at the timeJul 22 21:43
razielle_tzuit wasJul 22 21:43
razielle_tzuwe had plugins for making magic eye images from things we drewJul 22 21:43
razielle_tzuor from renders from real3d using screencapsJul 22 21:44
cubexyzI'd say DPII was better than dxpaint :)Jul 22 21:44
razielle_tzuDPII was greatJul 22 21:44
razielle_tzuit's one of the few things i don't have a copy of for my A600sJul 22 21:45
razielle_tzuno octamed eitherJul 22 21:45
razielle_tzubut i do have most of my fave gamesJul 22 21:45
razielle_tzumost of them are still boxed tooJul 22 21:46
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cubexyzUnix had one advantage... xbm was non-proprietaryJul 22 22:09
cubexyzthe older X11 programs used itJul 22 22:09
cubexyzsome of the early scanners outputed straight to pnmJul 22 22:11
razielle_tzuhuh, didn't know thatJul 22 22:12
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cubexyzwell I think the proper term was netppmJul 22 22:17
cubexyzI called it pnm, I forget whyJul 22 22:17
cubexyzthat might have been the older termJul 22 22:18
razielle_tzufairJul 22 22:20
cubexyzwell mogrify converted from what I called pnm to jpgJul 22 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756638102534447104Jul 23 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 22/7/2016: Wine 1.9.15, KaOS 2016.07 ISOJul 23 01:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/zvSYl4r1GJJul 23 03:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 23 03:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 COM and Pico-ITX dev kit run Linux on dual-core Cortex-A7Jul 23 03:35
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cubexyzyou're linking to a Matt Asay article? :-/Jul 23 12:02
cubexyzdon't worry about lock-in? really?Jul 23 12:04
cubexyzok, time to remove the tux games links since it's a gambling site now :-/Jul 23 12:10
cubexyza pityJul 23 12:10
cubexyzok, finally did a proper update to the Unix/Linux page:Jul 23 12:15
cubexyzhttp://cubeman.org/linux.htmlJul 23 12:15
cubexyzanti-lock argument... emulators is the easy counter exampleJul 23 12:16
cubexyzam I locked into using a PDP-11/70? No :)Jul 23 12:17
cubexyzok, so maybe lock-in isn't the biggest problemJul 23 12:20
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schestowitzhttps://mobile.twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:35
schestowitzExcellent news, signs of disintegration/decayJul 23 13:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756791599321972737Jul 23 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Microsoft lays off remaining handful of Microsoft Press staff @schestowitz https://t.co/s9IKy6a0QaJul 23 13:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/756831194025758720Jul 23 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Well @schestowitz I didn't set out to do it to them. It's something that they did to themselves.Jul 23 13:40
schestowitzMade too many enemies, IMHO, realised it too late. Like Monsanto of software world... #microsoftJul 23 13:40
cubexyzDARPA funded Berkeley's Computer System Research Group (they liked 3BSD)Jul 23 13:48
cubexyz4BSD lead to csh, delivermail (antecedent of sendmail) and curses libraryJul 23 13:49
cubexyzthen later on 4.3BSD was released, but later ported to some 68000-based computersJul 23 13:51
cubexyzin 1994 4.4BSD-lite was released, contained no AT&T sourceJul 23 13:53
cubexyzwhat we have now, the NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD were derived from 4.4.BSD-lite R2Jul 23 13:54
cubexyzberkeley sockets was the API for internet communicationsJul 23 14:05
cubexyzwinsock was heavily based on berkeley socketsJul 23 14:06
schestowitzhttp://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/22/armageddon-approaches-paul-craig-roberts/Jul 23 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Armageddon Approaches -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.orgJul 23 14:10
schestowitzWeird takeJul 23 14:10
cubexyzok, missile bases in Romania... Trump as president...Jul 23 14:14
cubexyzthat does seem a bit concerningJul 23 14:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756841506963492865Jul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching inJul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Q1 next year https://t.co/uaXeT1yrnPJul 23 15:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/756854276786360321Jul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Hidden in Plain Sight, a local multiplayer game thatJul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 sounds hilarious is now on Linux https://t.co/COJdfO8ug3Jul 23 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jul 23 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hidden in Plain Sight, a local multiplayer game that sounds hilarious is now on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJul 23 15:55
schestowitz[14:14] <cubexyz> ok, missile bases in Romania... Trump as president...Jul 23 15:56
schestowitzThey say they're defensive/interceptorsJul 23 15:56
schestowitzBut it's hard to tellJul 23 15:56
schestowitzthey can hide some nukes under the groundJul 23 15:56
schestowitzand use the launchers offensively thereJul 23 15:56
schestowitzor diffuse MAD at early launch phases while their own missiles (NATO) go on towards Russian targetsJul 23 15:57
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OneThe building reserved for the BoA is supposed to be in Vaterstetten, which is near Haar (hust a bit farther).Jul 23 17:24
OnejustJul 23 17:24
OneIf they are really going to move there I would regard it as a total waste of EPO money. A sign of further erdoganization of what was once a respectable European organization fallen prey today to the megalomaniac ambitions of a ruthless president.Jul 23 17:26
schestowitzHeyJul 23 17:28
schestowitzIs this confirmed?Jul 23 17:29
schestowitzwhat level of certainty?Jul 23 17:29
schestowitzhey, if PC is on house ban, does moving to another house mean he's allowed in?Jul 23 17:30
schestowitzI mean, irish-German, Iranian-German, armed Nazi and all...Jul 23 17:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Удаляйте Spotify https://t.co/KsVxhBDeZiJul 23 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Spotify will play ads based on your playlists https://t.co/pebl8DYdiI anybody shocked? Reject 'cloud' BS...Jul 23 18:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/756899063308705792Jul 23 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz methane has a much higher radiative effect then CO2.Jul 23 18:10
schestowitz"Tell us why this account should be verified. Limit 500 characters."Jul 23 18:32
schestowitzIn the past, or over the past decade, on at least 6 occasions, people impersonated this in order to demonise me.Jul 23 18:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now the proof: permafrost 'bubbles' are leaking #methane 200 times above the norm https://t.co/voEqqpzcl8 #siberia #russiaJul 23 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BurtonJony/status/756901373720031232Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BurtonJony: Your dad is fuming https://t.co/7fJaOBY0GIJul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #mufc as garments shop. Probably made at #bangladesh at 1% the cost of high street prices https://t.co/42U65elXrr association by uniform?Jul 23 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/756902760877023232Jul 23 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @schestowitz Watch this with an open mind... 3 scenarios... the last ticks many boxes https://t.co/VTj2dVCAnOJul 23 18:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swardley/status/756902814794801152Jul 23 18:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 "Adlink’s Linux-ready MXE-5500 fanless industrialJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 computer offers 6th Gen Core CPUs"Jul 23 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 7 Best Markdown Editors for Linux https://t.co/TxmNu5hjXhJul 23 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Karbonn confirms Android One smartphone(s) launching inJul 23 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Q1 next year https://t.co/IDj4UZG22ZJul 23 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Chromebook Make a Sweet CoupleJul 23 21:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear: Should Manufacturers be Given More Freedom?Jul 23 21:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 $99 Superdock turns Android phones into laptops — butJul 23 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines                 Call for GNOME Asia Summit 2017 Host ProposalsJul 23 21:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnome.org | Call for GNOME.Asia Summit 2017 Host Proposals – GNOMEJul 23 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines                 First round of Fedora 24 Updated Lives now available.Jul 23 22:00
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