IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: October 25th, 2015-October 31st, 2015

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cubexyz	Ford dumped Microsoft... went with QNX	Oct 25 04:31
cubexyz	"Why the MyFord Touch Control System Stinks"	Oct 25 04:33
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/evolution-of-microsoft.png	Oct 25 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	@debianupdate The linuxdebian Daily is out!	Oct 25 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/KWz4Q3EkKR (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 25 04:57
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6ltw	Oct 25 04:57
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msb_	cubexyz: There are billions of computers on the planet, and your server is open to all of them. Why are you checking your httpd logs?	Oct 25 05:47
cubexyz	I'm always checking things	Oct 25 05:47
cubexyz	the httpd logs show new types of attacks, I like to be aware of what the bad guys are up to	Oct 25 05:48
cubexyz	here's a new one:	Oct 25 05:48
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/new-hack-attempts.txt	Oct 25 05:48
msb_	There is only one Linux distro that has a large, modern software base, lots of admins to keep it up, and doesn't use systemd, and that is Devuan.	Oct 25 05:49
cubexyz	always check the logs	Oct 25 05:49
cubexyz	what about slackware?	Oct 25 05:49
msb_	Isn't that source-based? You have to compile everything?	Oct 25 05:50
cubexyz	nope	Oct 25 05:50
msb_	How many admins?	Oct 25 05:50
msb_	wiki: latest release two years ago	Oct 25 05:52
cubexyz	I don't know how many people work on it	Oct 25 05:52
msb_	http://www.slackware.com/ Latest release 14.1 2013-11-07	Oct 25 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackware.com \| The Slackware Linux Project		Oct 25 05:54
cubexyz	yeah I am a bit worried about Linux, that's why I work on OpenBSD and Plan 9	Oct 25 05:54
cubexyz	I could ask the same questions about Devuan... how many people work on that?	Oct 25 05:55
msb_	How up to date are those?	Oct 25 05:55
cubexyz	OpenBSD released 5.8 two days ago :)	Oct 25 05:55
cubexyz	Plan 9 is stagnant, nothing really new since 2002	Oct 25 05:56
cubexyz	more of a research/experiment thing	Oct 25 05:56
msb_	Does OpenBSD have the latest Linux video editors and such?	Oct 25 05:56
cubexyz	it's got lives, I've never tried it	Oct 25 05:57
msb_	lives?	Oct 25 05:58
cubexyz	http://lives-video.com	Oct 25 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lives-video.com \| LiVES Video Editing System - Because the media should be open		Oct 25 05:58
cubexyz	btw, is Devuan ready?	Oct 25 05:59
cubexyz	I don't see any iso's or anything yet	Oct 25 06:00
cubexyz	I have to be somewhat careful, as I have a lot of 32-bit machines to consider	Oct 25 06:01
msb_	They're hoping for beta soon.	Oct 25 06:01
cubexyz	for server, I would definitely say go openbsd	Oct 25 06:02
msb_	I suggested on #devuan that the two huge Debian data sources they depend on (see bottom of devuan.org homepage) be backed up by Devuan people, so in case they become unavailable due to political pressure from systemd forces, Devuan can continue.	Oct 25 06:03
msb_	All I got was ridicule -- "illuminati" "lunchtime is more important".	Oct 25 06:04
cubexyz	hmmm, really... that's a shame	Oct 25 06:04
msb_	Trying to talk to most people about the actualities of world politics -- it's like they're under post-hypnotic suggestion. They are _unable_ to think about it.	Oct 25 06:05
msb_	That	Oct 25 06:06
msb_	That's the result of the US corporate "news" propaganda system -- The CIA Mighty Wurlitzer as it was called decades ago.	Oct 25 06:07
msb_	People _are_ effectively under post-hypnotic suggestion.	Oct 25 06:07
cubexyz	at least nowadays everyone can have their own soapbox or blog or whatever	Oct 25 06:08
msb_	But the Internet runs on Linux, and Linux is now controlled by systemd. Devuan is the hope of the world for maintaing the humanity's communication system. And Devuan is run by zombies. They told me to take the discussion to another channel, where it wouldn't be heard by anyone influential over Devuan.	Oct 25 06:10
cubexyz	what is it now: GE, News-Corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS?	Oct 25 06:10
msb_	Fpx	Oct 25 06:10
msb_	Fox	Oct 25 06:10
cubexyz	owned by News-Corp :)	Oct 25 06:10
msb_	figures	Oct 25 06:11
cubexyz	ABC owned by Disney	Oct 25 06:11
msb_	What about Comcast?	Oct 25 06:11
cubexyz	owned by GE :)	Oct 25 06:12
cubexyz	there's probably some small-fry though, not owned by those 6 companies	Oct 25 06:13
cubexyz	but those 6 account for 90% of the media market	Oct 25 06:13
msb_	RT has great programming!	Oct 25 06:14
cubexyz	GE also owns NBC	Oct 25 06:14
cubexyz	of course that's US, in Canada things are a lot different	Oct 25 06:16
cubexyz	in theory, the CRTC says whether or not media companies can merge	Oct 25 06:17
msb_	RT has Thom Hartmann, Tyrel Ventura, Jesse Ventura, Max Keiser, George Galloway, and a great show called Crosstalk.	Oct 25 06:17
cubexyz	I think we have stricter rules about the media market	Oct 25 06:17
cubexyz	is it just http://rt.com ?	Oct 25 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| RT		Oct 25 06:18
msb_	CRT Controller 8^)	Oct 25 06:18
msb_	I get RT on TV cable!	Oct 25 06:18
cubexyz	it's available here too, but I haven't subscribed to it	Oct 25 06:19
cubexyz	I just have bare bones Satellite TV with a couple of extra channels	Oct 25 06:19
msb_	https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Canada/#where-to-watch__form	Oct 25 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Canada/#where-to-watch__form )		Oct 25 06:20
cubexyz	but do they transmit unencrypted?	Oct 25 06:21
cubexyz	probably not, but you never know	Oct 25 06:21
msb_	I watch it on my computer cable-tv card.	Oct 25 06:21
msb_	Via comcast. I think its in the cheapest channel selection.	Oct 25 06:22
msb_	The set-top box info just says "RT News -- Leased	Oct 25 06:24
cubexyz	yeah there's barely anything FTA now on satellite	Oct 25 06:25
msb_	F-ck The Army?	Oct 25 06:25
cubexyz	Free to Air	Oct 25 06:25
cubexyz	not encrypted	Oct 25 06:26
msb_	Only problem with RT is they don't show their schedule, so you just have to take pot luck. Usually they alternate half hour of news and half hour of some particular show. https://www.rt.com/shows/	Oct 25 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| Shows — RT		Oct 25 06:28
cubexyz	I wonder if maxemum still works, I haven't used it in a while	Oct 25 06:29
msb_	That page has links to all the show pages, and each one links to the most recent episodes, which can be downloaded with the latest youtube-dl.	Oct 25 06:29
msb_	big momma?	Oct 25 06:29
cubexyz	remember maxemumtvguide?	Oct 25 06:31
cubexyz	it was a KDE thing	Oct 25 06:31
cubexyz	looks like it still works	Oct 25 06:32
msb_	I use http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/	Oct 25 06:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvschedule.zap2it.com \| TV Listings Guide and TV Schedule, Where to Watch TV Shows - Zap2it		Oct 25 06:32
cubexyz	that's basically what maxemumtvguide uses	Oct 25 06:32
msb_	It used to be good, then they ruined it, now they've restored most of the previous features.	Oct 25 06:34
msb_	Like movie release dates and actors.	Oct 25 06:35
msb_	And the ability to see the evening schedule even after midnight.	Oct 25 06:35
msb_	maxemum is not in the KDE3 repo for suse 11.4	Oct 25 06:38
cubexyz	you might have to compile from source tarball	Oct 25 06:38
cubexyz	I have a pre-compiled binary if you want to try it	Oct 25 06:39
cubexyz	you'll also need mc2xml to make it work	Oct 25 06:40
msb_	looks like I was messing with it last year, and it's from 2007	Oct 25 06:40
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msb_	Thanks. zap2it is ok for now. It give season and episode numbers for series shows, so I can find them in naughty places.	Oct 25 06:43
msb_	YIFY has been off the air for nearly a week.	Oct 25 06:46
msb_	Maybe a SWAT team kicked down the door and machine-gunned everybody. Wouldn't put it past the copyright industry.	Oct 25 06:48
msb_	https://www.reddit.com/r/torrents/comments/3plq22/is_ytsto_down/ Says they got "Dosed" and will be up in a few days.	Oct 25 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Is yts.to down? : torrents [ http://ur1.ca/o6mof ]		Oct 25 06:52
cubexyz	maxemumtvguide needs a bit of patience	Oct 25 06:57
cubexyz	but it works ok once you figure out it's quirks	Oct 25 06:57
msb_	They think Paramount and Sony attacked their servers. But I don't know how a DOS attack would kill a site once the attack was IP-blocked.	Oct 25 06:58
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msb_	Maybe they were actually hacked.	Oct 25 06:59
cubexyz	well you know what they say about that...	Oct 25 07:08
cubexyz	Hail, Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a limb, and two more shall take its place!	Oct 25 07:08
cubexyz	:)	Oct 25 07:08
msb_	Is that from Marvel SHIELD?	Oct 25 07:09
cubexyz	actually they are the bad guys	Oct 25 07:10
cubexyz	they fight SHIELD :)	Oct 25 07:10
msb_	I know, I watch it.	Oct 25 07:10
cubexyz	just replace Hydra with systemd or linux or whatever :)	Oct 25 07:11
msb_	Isn't there an old saying about the Internet routes its way around all obstacles?	Oct 25 07:11
cubexyz	yes	Oct 25 07:11
msb_	We are living in _very_ interesting times!	Oct 25 07:11
cubexyz	Hail, Linux! Immortal Linux! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a distro, and two more shall take its place!	Oct 25 07:12
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msb_	I sure hope!	Oct 25 07:13
cubexyz	well the torrents definitely haven't stopped	Oct 25 07:14
msb_	Ever see Outer Limits 1995 S04E16 Final Exam? A physics student solves cold fusion and makes a bomb.	Oct 25 07:15
cubexyz	nope, haven't really watched anything in some time	Oct 25 07:16
msb_	It is so good! But rather brutal.	Oct 25 07:17
schestowitz	>>> "many of the machines are running an embedded version	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	>>> >> of Windows XP"	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	>>> >>	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.wired.com/2015/09/dismal-state-americas-decade-old-voting-machines/	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	>>> >>	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	>>> >> Inherently insecure and designed for fraud.	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	>> > Indeed, that's what I often worry about when it comes to Tor.	Oct 25 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com \| The Dismal State of America's Decade-Old Voting Machines \| WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/o6d08 ]		Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	> Do you think it might be worth it to put up a Tor Hidden Service after	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	> you have HTTPS? Or would people try to use Tor on top of some pwned	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	> Windows machine?	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	Tor is slow to use, but it has its uses ;-)	Oct 25 07:32
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/10/25/techrights-doc-drop/	Oct 25 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| How to Securely Provide Techrights With Information, Documents \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o6mzx ]		Oct 25 07:33
schestowitz	> Nice, but using IRC gives a way a metric fuckton of information	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	> publicly. No need (or desire) to give TR opponents a heads-up warning.	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	> I'm no expert but I'd even look at crap like mailinator, instead, over	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	> Tor. With that, they could at least (manually) use PGP. Tails has an	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	> OpenPGP client. It also has a mail client, should the whistleblower	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	> have enough savvy to use a formal mail service anonymously.	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	The EPO and CRG already monitor our IRC, so we're not giving them anything that they don't already have.	Oct 25 08:16
schestowitz	> Not sure if this is of interest to you but we are passing it on for what it might be worth.	Oct 25 08:24
schestowitz	> We know that the main focus of your interest relates to so-called "software patents". However, that is not the only area where the EPO's practices are coming under fire.	Oct 25 08:24
schestowitz	> We are not experts in the area of "plant patents" so we will refrain from trying to comment in detail. We just wanted to direct your attention to some relevant coverage of this topic from various sources in case it might be of interest.	Oct 25 08:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fpietrosanti/status/658262526426222593	Oct 25 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fpietrosanti: @schestowitz You may wish to try @GlobaLeaks that’s being used also by anticorruption NGOs,public agencies,activists and citizen journalists		Oct 25 09:09
msb_	http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-foods/indian-farmers-committing-suicide-monsanto-gm-crops/	Oct 25 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com \| Indian Farmers Committing Suicide as a Result of Monsanto's GM Crops		Oct 25 09:18
msb_	There have been many reports over the years from Western farmers who had not planted GMO seeds, but had had their crops contaminated by pollen from neighboring farms, whereupon Monsanto did a genetic analysis of their crop and demand payment for seeds that had never been used.	Oct 25 09:26
msb_	Oops. The neighboring farms were using GMO seeds.	Oct 25 09:26
msb_	IIRC there have also been cases of corporations patenting entirely natural seeds, of plants that had been growing wild or cultivated for thousands of years, and using governments to force farmers to pay a fee to grow those plants.	Oct 25 09:29
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MinceR	http://www.technologyreview.com/view/542626/why-self-driving-cars-must-be-programmed-to-kill/	Oct 25 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com \| Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill \| MIT Technology Review		Oct 25 10:04
XFaCE	MinceR: dafuq	Oct 25 10:05
MinceR	:)	Oct 25 10:05
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cubexyz	just set the autocars to go really slow :)	Oct 25 10:51
cubexyz	it's a BS article, actually	Oct 25 10:54
cubexyz	I've never been in any of the ridiculous situations mentioned in that article	Oct 25 10:54
cubexyz	autocars will be a lot safer than what we currently have	Oct 25 10:54
MinceR	the point is that there are ethical considerations to programming them	Oct 25 11:23
MinceR	and there are many ways to fail	Oct 25 11:23
MinceR	like prefer the occupants' lives -> backlash	Oct 25 11:23
MinceR	prefer outside people's lives -> nobody will want to buy or use the self-driving cars	Oct 25 11:23
MinceR	though i think that the current state of the software industry is more reason for worry	Oct 25 11:24
MinceR	no quality, no care for quality	Oct 25 11:24
MinceR	companies like m$, crApple and redcrap being in charge	Oct 25 11:24
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cubexyz	it's not even good enough to do that though	Oct 25 11:27
cubexyz	is there a child in the middle of a road? is it a sheep? a barrel? a dummy?	Oct 25 11:27
cubexyz	the car would have to have HAL-like intelligence	Oct 25 11:28
cubexyz	at best it will sense there's an obstacle to not hit	Oct 25 11:29
cubexyz	probably by braking	Oct 25 11:29
cubexyz	it's not going to decide, hey it's drive into a wall instead of hitting those 10 people in the middle of the road	Oct 25 11:30
cubexyz	s/it's/let's/	Oct 25 11:30
cubexyz	it's a false dilemma	Oct 25 11:31
MinceR	indeed, if it can't identify objects precisely, it can't come close to solving ethical dilemmas	Oct 25 11:31
cubexyz	get all pedestrians to wear sensors, that might work	Oct 25 11:32
cubexyz	I don't think it would be too hard to improve on the current system we have now	Oct 25 11:33
MinceR	lol	Oct 25 11:33
MinceR	and then we can track all pedestrians remotely	Oct 25 11:33
MinceR	and even disable sensors remotely to cause "accidents" :>	Oct 25 11:33
cubexyz	I thought they were already tracking them via mobile phones	Oct 25 11:33
cubexyz	well, it's better than drunk humans at least	Oct 25 11:34
MinceR	there's no threat of cars running into you for not carrying a mobile phone yet, though	Oct 25 11:35
cubexyz	I think there's 1.3 million deaths world-wide in road crashes per year	Oct 25 11:35
cubexyz	that's a lot	Oct 25 11:39
cubexyz	I see bad driving all the time too	Oct 25 11:41
cubexyz	just gunning it down the street I live on	Oct 25 11:42
MinceR	so do i	Oct 25 11:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/forgettalktalk/status/658304586877263873	Oct 25 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@forgettalktalk: IF YOU'RE A #TALKTALK CUSTOMER & WANT TO JOIN A GROUP TO FIGHT FOR COMPENSATION READ: https://t.co/I3JtUYzxM0 RT https://t.co/Gb4TQl78W7		Oct 25 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #talktalk is now paying for advertising (in football breaks) that's just lousy 'damage control' after they got cracked. That's where $ goes?		Oct 25 12:00
schestowitz	they got cracked	Oct 25 12:00
schestowitz	wonder if they used Windows	Oct 25 12:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU LibreJS 6.0.10 released	Oct 25 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ugntvhcTSV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6ow0	Oct 25 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU LibreJS 6.0.10 released \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/uCpYFMYAVE	Oct 25 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6ow2	Oct 25 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 12:15
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__martin__	geekings	Oct 25 12:30
__martin__	seems like on 28th of the October the start of the "2016 - 2019 Joint Strategic Plan on Intellectual Property Enforcement" [sic] by U.S. will get decided for good or worse	Oct 25 12:31
__martin__	Aurous (aurous.me) is appealing RIAA suit	Oct 25 12:32
__martin__	meanwhile the (in)famous Popcorn-Time (used to be popcorntime.io) got wiped out of the net with devs scattering here and there (most probably under direct threat from MAFIAA =)	Oct 25 12:33
__martin__	there is some https://butterproject.github.io/ thou.. we shall see if http://techdirt.com/ aka Mr. Moody comes up with some reports in the weeks coming	Oct 25 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-butterproject.github.io \| Butter Project - Watch movies and TV shows instantly!		Oct 25 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com \| Techdirt.		Oct 25 12:34
__martin__	no wonder RMS and the FSF comes up with https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html =P // in the age of DMCA GitHub's takedowns	Oct 25 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org \| GNU Ethical Repository Criteria - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation		Oct 25 12:34
__martin__	MinceR: how's your systemd-less journey going?	Oct 25 12:35
__martin__	btw, I gave a try to this openSUSE Leap distro based on SLES (whis is used by European Space Agency / with SLED desktops maybe as well)	Oct 25 12:37
XRevan86	__martin__: and?	Oct 25 12:38
__martin__	well, you should have seen their KDE Frameworks 5 & Plasma 5 combo.. :_D	Oct 25 12:38
__martin__	like 7 items in KDE's system-settings GUI	Oct 25 12:38
__martin__	segfaulted whole app xD	Oct 25 12:38
__martin__	[never happened on Kubuntu]	Oct 25 12:38
__martin__	and then	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A History of Android Market Share: How Google's	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	Mobile Operating System Dominated the Globe	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LxnifY8p4y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6p2n	Oct 25 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A History of Android Market Share: How Google's Mobile Operating System Dominated the Globe \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel oops collector is back in Debian!	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3TiAGeeGq6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6p2q	Oct 25 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel oops collector is back in Debian! \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 12:39
__martin__	I decided to wipe out their / btrfs partition with gparted from bunsen labs (community continuacy of crunchbang) liveusb	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/lgaURXqRzj	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6p2u	Oct 25 12:39
__martin__	guess what	Oct 25 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.3-rc7 \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 12:39
__martin__	first the Xubuntu installer coudn't wipe that partition from Ubiquity and format it with ext4	Oct 25 12:40
__martin__	then I tried the aforementioned gparted and it said O.K.	Oct 25 12:40
__martin__	but that bloody bootstrapped SUSE was still there :D	Oct 25 12:40
__martin__	it took the third time to get rid of it	Oct 25 12:40
__martin__	..	Oct 25 12:41
__martin__	it was Release Candidate.. well they made a leap, giant leap for the mankind ;D	Oct 25 12:41
__martin__	also folks	Oct 25 12:42
__martin__	beware that nvidia's blob switch to proper modesetting modules	Oct 25 12:42
__martin__	Xorg at certain configurations won't load and one has to dig into configs	Oct 25 12:43
__martin__	enjoy some nice tunes :)	Oct 25 12:57
__martin__	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTA0DSfrGZ0&index=9&list=PL2vpKU4b5J1Sxd1GkL4HLTv1WyFzgHUSs	Oct 25 12:57
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schestowitz	__martin__: hi	Oct 25 12:58
schestowitz	__martin__: the latest release of kubuntu fixed things for me, but I found a serious installer bug	Oct 25 12:59
schestowitz	managed to get around it in the CLI	Oct 25 12:59
schestowitz	[16:33] <__martin__> there is some https://butterproject.github.io/ thou.. we shall see if http://techdirt.com/ aka Mr. Moody comes up with some reports in the weeks coming	Oct 25 13:00
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schestowitz	Did he tell you?	Oct 25 13:00
schestowitz	UK gov. actually banned the software itself	Oct 25 13:00
schestowitz	and linking to it	Oct 25 13:00
schestowitz	it's free software	Oct 25 13:00
schestowitz	hence unprecedented	Oct 25 13:00
__martin__	schestowitz: glyn did not said, it's just my assumption	Oct 25 13:00
__martin__	UK ISPs seem to censor a lot more than the european subsidiaries of Deutche Telekom	Oct 25 13:01
__martin__	say*	Oct 25 13:01
__martin__	what sort of bug you experienced roy? the same one with partitioner or	Oct 25 13:03
schestowitz	no	Oct 25 13:10
schestowitz	scanner library	Oct 25 13:10
schestowitz	throwing a dialogue	Oct 25 13:10
schestowitz	which crashed the python installer	Oct 25 13:10
schestowitz	sane	Oct 25 13:10
schestowitz	other people in irc reported something which potentially is similar	Oct 25 13:11
schestowitz	tried to file a bug report	Oct 25 13:11
schestowitz	but it's a mess	Oct 25 13:11
schestowitz	hopefully they read irc (the devs)	Oct 25 13:11
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__martin__	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/25/us-talktalk-cyberattack-idUSKCN0SJ0OY20151025	Oct 25 13:14
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__martin__	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TalkTalk_Group	Oct 25 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23: KDE vs. Xfce vs. GNOME vs. LXDE vs.	Oct 25 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	MATE https://t.co/LO870rWZX6	Oct 25 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 14:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU LibreJS 6.0.10 released	Oct 25 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KY7dvbV9g7 (savannah.gnu.org)	Oct 25 14:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A History of Android Market Share: How Google's	Oct 25 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	Mobile Operating System Dominated the Globe	Oct 25 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jekfnprSyw (www.fool.com)	Oct 25 14:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel oops collector is back in Debian!	Oct 25 14:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oR0CEDtCCa (balintreczey.hu)	Oct 25 14:17
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MinceR	__martin__: i still haven't installed anything newer than wheezy-derived stuff on any of my boxen	Oct 25 14:20
MinceR	i'll probably start with devuan beta or bedrock nyla, when one of those gets released :>	Oct 25 14:24
MinceR	or netbsd, when i feel like it	Oct 25 14:55
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cubexyz	MinceR, did you see the special upgrade to windows 10 for kids?	Oct 25 15:03
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 25 15:03
MinceR	stasi, home edition?	Oct 25 15:03
MinceR	lol, i haven't seen this one	Oct 25 15:03
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MinceR	i knew this one: http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html	Oct 25 15:04
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cubexyz	might be time for the DOJ to step in again	Oct 25 15:09
__martin__	pro-nato army of my country is doing some recruitment for cheap labour, understand click monkeys and best brainwash candidates for their programmes and "special undergrads"	Oct 25 15:10
__martin__	my father pissed me off with this one	Oct 25 15:11
__martin__	after whole 24yrs he does not know that his son is anti-state anti-war	Oct 25 15:11
__martin__	</rl_rants>	Oct 25 15:11
__martin__	:D	Oct 25 15:11
__martin__	he buys himself a book about ex-reykjavik mayor with anarchist background and does not learn the moral from it	Oct 25 15:13
__martin__	(chilling effect of being raised under deep socialism and patriarchal mother)	Oct 25 15:14
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cubexyz	this is rather a small point given all the other bad things but Windows 10 is back to setting it's own browser as default	Oct 25 15:17
cubexyz	not to mention all the wasted bandwidth with forced updates	Oct 25 15:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/y8anAwbpfe	Oct 25 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	(lkml.iu.edu) #kernel #linux	Oct 25 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 25 15:27
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schestowitz	[17:14] <__martin__> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/25/us-talktalk-cyberattack-idUSKCN0SJ0OY20151025	Oct 25 15:38
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schestowitz	LOL BAUE	Oct 25 15:38
schestowitz	BAE=army	Oct 25 15:38
cubexyz	http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html	Oct 25 15:39
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cubexyz	there's pretty much a straight to NSA policy with windows	Oct 25 15:40
cubexyz	I'd say we've stepped into Big Brother territory	Oct 25 15:43
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy:	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	> Thank you for another fine article, telling it like it is!	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	> thttp://techrights.org/2015/10/22/all-things-open-hijacked/	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	> But in it, note this typo:	Oct 25 15:49
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schestowitz	> In "What should even organisers do in this situation?",	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	> change "even"	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	> to "event".	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	I shall correct this immediately, thank you!	Oct 25 15:49
schestowitz	"v"	Oct 25 15:53
schestowitz	"Presumably because everyone here cares about privacy and security, or other problems that may involve privacy and security. Because that's why they are here in the first place :-) but that's logical. And which topic is your personal favourite? Security?"	Oct 25 15:53
schestowitz	GNU/Linux	Oct 25 15:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DragonBox Pyra Linux Based Gaming Plus Console	Oct 25 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	Emulation Available To Pre-Order Now	Oct 25 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V47awlSp70 (hacked.news)	Oct 25 16:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On to Fedora 23 and New Tools	Oct 25 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PDhIFWJiSt (dissociatedpress.net)	Oct 25 16:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: What the Phones Are Going	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	to Look Like https://t.co/DN3zeUr50Y	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cheatsheet.com)	Oct 25 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Behind the scenes of the KDE Phone HIG – Part	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	Two: The HIG creation process	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sU8UWmACO3	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	(sessellift.wordpress.com)	Oct 25 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SlimPort Nano Console turns your Android	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	smartphone into a set-top box	Oct 25 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qaKDrvpN3j (www.geek.com)	Oct 25 16:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/658377251143159808	Oct 25 16:39
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schestowitz	"Fair enough. I guess we all are, more or less. And it's a good thing. Today some updates crashed my GUI (the whole OS wasn't booting properly, GUI wasn't booting at all), so I had to reinstall it. with no live USB or DVDs. Just with built-in tools. Nobody's gonna do that on windows, at least in customer builds. And it's a lot of fun as well. If you are doing something to save yourself, you might as well have fun in the process :-) Sorry if	Oct 25 16:43
schestowitz	I talk too much, I'm just new here and don't people yet. Just a couple of guys."	Oct 25 16:43
schestowitz	From what I've read, Windows is actually more likely to become hosed and bricked than a decent GNU/Linux distro, even without outside help	Oct 25 16:43
MinceR	systemd will help with that	Oct 25 16:44
MinceR	wait, you said 'decen't	Oct 25 16:44
MinceR	s/n't/nt'/	Oct 25 16:44
MinceR	never mind :)	Oct 25 16:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6743372	Oct 25 16:45
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schestowitz	"I just want Diaspora to auto-collapse every long ass post. I don’t think this should be overly controversial."	Oct 25 16:45
schestowitz	"mhm, maybe yo (diaspora) need a button ‘show more’ ?! or,markdown knows [more]i think …"	Oct 25 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines iOS 9 vs Android 6.0: Images Depicts Close	Oct 25 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	Comparison Between Two Latest OS Available in	Oct 25 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	Market; Android 6.0 wins.	Oct 25 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cjeECEIuR4 (en.yibada.com)	Oct 25 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines John McAfee (yes, him) on security and Android	Oct 25 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Landry Breuil	Oct 25 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23: KDE vs. Xfce vs. GNOME vs. LXDE vs.	Oct 25 16:52
TweetTuxMachines	MATE https://t.co/kCWxLDTrSr (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 16:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 11.0.4 Is Scattered With Fixes	Oct 25 16:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fresh Fedora 23 GNOME Shell Wayland Tests	Oct 25 17:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openmamba milestone3 https://t.co/aBPVSKrK8c	Oct 25 17:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14 Has Been Released	Oct 25 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bE0MP7cx35 (linuxg.net)	Oct 25 17:18
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schestowitz	jono: good to hear you're in github, I have two accounts there	Oct 25 17:26
jono	thanks schestowitz!	Oct 25 17:26
jono	excited to get started!	Oct 25 17:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/658398380196925440	Oct 25 17:44
schestowitz	jono: my wife has an account there too, and she uses ubuntu with unity ;-p	Oct 25 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines External Screen Support For Unity 8 On Ubuntu	Oct 25 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Is Finally Near https://t.co/FGb5nytV4A	Oct 25 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HHVM News https://t.co/bKWIXAvgw1	Oct 25 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel https://t.co/Zazmd85bnj	Oct 25 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/wKciAydC28	Oct 25 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hack: A free open source font for all reasons	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	(but mainly for rendering source code)	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fFggKuCW4D (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjj	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	Called DoFlicky https://t.co/AXaWNUueZR	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjl	Oct 26 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 3D Graphics Library 11.0.4 Out Now with	Oct 26 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	Many Bugfixes https://t.co/gOVZNO16rs	Oct 26 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjm	Oct 26 00:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 3D Graphics Library 11.0.4 Out Now with...'		Oct 26 00:22
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msb_	cubexyz: Are you there?	Oct 26 02:45
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r_schestowitz	cubexyz: good news, someone just sent me http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-web-is-gummed-up.html by email	Oct 26 05:25
r_schestowitz	so evidently some people follow the site	Oct 26 05:25
cubexyz	ha	Oct 26 05:29
cubexyz	msb_, I'm here now	Oct 26 05:29
cubexyz	just have to do a couple of chores	Oct 26 05:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool...'		Oct 26 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LabPlot 2.1.0 released https://t.co/kgOFxElAYQ	Oct 26 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	(labplot.sourceforge.net)	Oct 26 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zf5	Oct 26 05:32
cubexyz	and I do see a fair number of laptops that are broken due to heat damage	Oct 26 05:32
cubexyz	btw the all time stat for IE on my blog is a lowly 12%	Oct 26 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GUADEC 2016 https://t.co/yHyqu6vdXm	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	(permalink.gmane.org) Karlsruhe, Germany, will	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	host GUADEC in the summer of 2016."	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zio	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Android camera apps that can shoot raw photos	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/34WphUspwp (www.phonearena.com)	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zip	Oct 26 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value	Oct 26 05:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PGhaME7Lps (www.zdnet.com)	Oct 26 05:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6ziq	Oct 26 05:42
cubexyz	I didn't just block Microsoft domains for adsense, but I also blocked gambling and betting sites	Oct 26 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FocusWriter 1.5.5 Brings Fixes	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ekwIk6eBq5 (linuxg.net)	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	"open-source and cross-plaftorm, working on	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	Linux"	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zow	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines History, the World, and KDE: Discovering Marble	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TmzJ6P697W	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com)	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zp1	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	Called DoFlicky https://t.co/nb25sRMyK3	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/zcB4eckSUa	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zp3	Oct 26 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A troubleshooting process for Linux problems	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DXRXbIC5Iy (opensource.com)	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zru	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LFA (Linux For ALL) Distro Is Now Based on	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10, Debian 8.1, and Fluxbox	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tvYkpyMOzP (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	"Ubuntu-based LFA"	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zrv	Oct 26 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux Update Brings New Kernels,	Oct 26 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox, Python, and Haskell	Oct 26 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6sN2hXJU5c (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zry	Oct 26 06:05
cubexyz	lol...	Oct 26 06:19
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/internet-troll.jpg	Oct 26 06:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Divinity Original Sin - Enhanced Edition	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	Arrives on Linux in December	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/feBGw2GLlM (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708q	Oct 26 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Years After Wayland 1.0, Will 2016 Be The Year	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	Of The Wayland Desktop? https://t.co/BR0EoRh2zv	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708r	Oct 26 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Years After Wayland 1.0, Will 2016 Be The Year Of The Wayland Desktop? - Phoronix		Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	developer tools https://t.co/kHQBp0KXxQ	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708v	Oct 26 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced developer tools \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/syXdePIs39	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708y	Oct 26 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vYyNkFuP7O (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708z	Oct 26 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/I0XnJ31KZj	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7091	Oct 26 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 06:44
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cubexyz	autodesk does the subscription thing too	Oct 26 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/d3dJbDxgi8	Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70vb	Oct 26 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus'	Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	Budgie Desktop https://t.co/LpP2MWqDz0	Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70vd	Oct 26 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Laura https://t.co/xOQLhGgcKt	Oct 26 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus’ Budgie Desktop \| Techrights		Oct 26 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	(krita.org)	Oct 26 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70ve	Oct 26 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Interview with Laura \| Krita		Oct 26 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines G’MIC 1.6.7 (Standalone Software And GIMP	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	Plugin) Has Been Released	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/x4gJRH3U1M (linuxg.net)	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zj	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bQhukX8g3w (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zu	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I'm an artist who loves Linux	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Lh5fbYCWw (opensource.com)	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zv	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	developer tools https://t.co/dgkldHCua1	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cloudpro.co.uk)	Oct 26 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zw	Oct 26 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://linuxg.net/install-gmic-on-ubuntu/ )		Oct 26 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs - Softpedia		Oct 26 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Sreenivas Alapati: My Linux Story \| Opensource.com		Oct 26 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk \| Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced developer tools \| Cloud Pro		Oct 26 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Tools Could Bring Xubuntu, Lubuntu,	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	and Ubuntu Server to Raspberry Pi 2	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3XofG9dtiX (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o711w	Oct 26 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE Tools Could Bring Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Ubuntu Server to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arch Linux 2015.10.01 ISO Image Brings Support	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux Kernel 4.2, More	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JcJjkIvrUF (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o711x	Oct 26 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Arch Linux 2015.10.01 ISO Image Brings Support for Linux Kernel 4.2, More - Softpedia		Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	the Road the Size of Python 3	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uPyeVuVSBJ (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o711y	Oct 26 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in the Road the Size of Python 3 - Softpedia		Oct 26 08:01
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus' Budgie Desktop...'		Oct 26 08:03
cubexyz	ok, trying to contact AMI again	Oct 26 08:07
*TweetTuxMachines @arindammanidas favourited 'Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a...'		Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in	Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	the Road the Size of Python 3	Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tnE1oKOQvf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o715e	Oct 26 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in the Road the Size of Python 3 \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack: The good, the bad, and the ugly	Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ftcwKyTbo2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o715i	Oct 26 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenStack: The good, the bad, and the ugly \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 08:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I'm an artist who loves Linux	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Jgfcznrrwz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7175	Oct 26 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| I'm an artist who loves Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla props up its Open Source projects	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QcdgQJou9f (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o717a	Oct 26 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla props up its Open Source projects \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Apps for Ubuntu with LXD	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7sPKmlBpQK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o717c	Oct 26 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized Apps for Ubuntu with LXD \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 08:14
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/658617439073255424	Oct 26 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Rush is from a different part of the political spectrum than you but read this about donors, cronyism: https://t.co/anDEX2w3gp		Oct 26 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rushlimbaugh.com \| The Donor-Class Push: Make Paul Ryan Speaker (Get Rid of Trump, and Have Rubio or Jeb Win the White House) - The Rush Limbaugh Show		Oct 26 08:19
cubexyz	ok, today is BIOS study day	Oct 26 08:20
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6743813	Oct 26 08:31
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6744255	Oct 26 08:31
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6744019	Oct 26 08:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 26 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #newscorp #fox 'news' incites against #cuba by falsely claiming it helps #assad https://www.rt.com/usa/318712-syria-iran-cuba-rebels/ political shambles in media apparatus		Oct 26 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rt.com \| Iranians, Cubans and CIA-backed rebels: US media jumps on muddled Syria reports — RT USA		Oct 26 08:32
cubexyz	remember I talked about what would happen if the USB controller got hacked?	Oct 26 08:39
cubexyz	I conjectured it would be possible for all sorts of nasty things like keyloggers for usb keyboards	Oct 26 08:40
cubexyz	http://www.extremetech.com/computing/187279-undetectable-indefensible-security-flaw-found-in-usb-its-time-to-get-your-ps2-keyboard-out-of-the-cupboard	Oct 26 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com \| Massive, undetectable security flaw found in USB: It’s time to get your PS/2 keyboard out of the cupboard \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/o71i7 ]		Oct 26 08:41
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racoonfox12	hello, is this a chatroom for technology?	Oct 26 09:33
cubexyz	http://techrights.org/home/history	Oct 26 09:37
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cubexyz	quoting a windows 10 user:	Oct 26 10:31
cubexyz	The windows 10 start menu may not work as well as it used to, but it does bombard you with information about hamburgers and Lady Gaga and football when you open it	Oct 26 10:32
cubexyz	http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/mar/23/were-are-all-losers-to-gadget-industry-built-on-planned-obsolescence	Oct 26 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| We're all losers to a gadget industry built on planned obsolescence \| Guardian Sustainable Business \| The Guardian		Oct 26 10:45
cubexyz	Jon Postel doesn't really get enough credit for the RFCs	Oct 26 11:04
cubexyz	they are a model of clarity	Oct 26 11:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized	Oct 26 12:41
TweetTuxMachines	Apps for Ubuntu with LXD	Oct 26 12:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ilmLHred2K (thevarguy.com)	Oct 26 12:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o73ep	Oct 26 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized Apps for Ubuntu with LXD \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 26 12:41
*TweetTuxMachines @spdben followed @tuxmachines		Oct 26 12:41
cubexyz	got my answer from AMI :)	Oct 26 12:55
cubexyz	5 figures for the BIOS source code	Oct 26 12:55
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/vista-joke.jpg	Oct 26 13:54
msb_	I just talked with my mother on the phone. She told me I must not vote for Hillary Clinton because she let 6 Americans be killed in Benghazi. I told her that the US had destr0yed the whole nation of Libya, murdering hundreds of thousands of people. She said she had never heard of that. She said she's going to vote for Trump because he will make the US number one again. I said,	Oct 26 14:03
msb_	"but he's insane". She didn't care. She watches corporate news on TV.	Oct 26 14:03
MinceR	number one in what?	Oct 26 14:04
msb_	She never heard of Bernie Sanders. He's not mentioned on TV.	Oct 26 14:05
cubexyz	TV is a terrible way to obtain information	Oct 26 14:05
msb_	It sure is, unless you watch RT. But I suspect that most Americans agree with her and that tRump will become president.	Oct 26 14:06
msb_	Alex Jones likes him too.	Oct 26 14:07
cubexyz	doesn't he still have to win the Republican nomination?	Oct 26 14:07
cubexyz	Trump winning is far from assured	Oct 26 14:07
MinceR	and then he'll have to pivot to pandering to non-republican voters	Oct 26 14:08
MinceR	it seems he's targeting shallow idiots and that strategy may well work out	Oct 26 14:08
cubexyz	geez, I sure hope not	Oct 26 14:08
msb_	He's a psychopath. They know how to make people like them.	Oct 26 14:09
MinceR	according to Scott Adams, this method can be learned	Oct 26 14:10
msb_	Yes, but it comes naturally to many psychopaths.	Oct 26 14:10
msb_	I link to three good videos and one good article on psychopaths: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#PSYCHOPATHY	Oct 26 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Oct 26 14:23
msb_	tRump is the only Repug with any charisma, and the Repugs are attacking Hillary hammer and tongs. (BTW Hillary had a hand in destr0ying Libya. Re Gaddafi, she giggled on TV "We came, we saw, he died!". Socialist Sanders, despite winning every Dem straw poll, gets no mention on corporate TV because socialism would reduce the obscene profits of the ultra-wealthy that own the TV networks.	Oct 26 14:30
cubexyz	here in Canada the conservatives ran tons of attack ads against Justin Trudeau and he still won	Oct 26 14:31
cubexyz	sometimes attack ads backfire	Oct 26 14:32
msb_	Yes, but in the US, the ultra-wealthy run attack news stories. Those are believed without any questioning.	Oct 26 14:35
cubexyz	I have trouble believing people are that dumb :)	Oct 26 14:40
MinceR	they're providing plenty of evidence for that	Oct 26 14:40
msb_	Just talked with my neighbor, and mentioned Libya. He told me I should keep my opinions to myself, because they just upset people. I said they're not opinions, they're facts. He also knows only what he sees on corporate TV.	Oct 26 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Superb Ubuntu MATE Gold Edition Proposed by	Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	User - Video https://t.co/rExeSh833K	Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7522	Oct 26 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Superb Ubuntu MATE Gold Edition Proposed by User - Video - Softpedia		Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Ubuntu-Powered Erle-Spider Drone Now	Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	Available for Sale https://t.co/VqZrsWY5zw	Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7524	Oct 26 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| The Ubuntu-Powered Erle-Spider Drone Now Available for Sale - Softpedia		Oct 26 15:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Learning Linux - Lesson Three: GNU/Linux	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	Distributions https://t.co/tE6QTrJAm1	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o757y	Oct 26 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Learning Linux - Lesson Three: GNU/Linux Distributions - Softpedia		Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE e.V. Quarterly Report - 2014Q4	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IDvRyx1RMP (dot.kde.org)	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o757z	Oct 26 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| KDE e.V. Quarterly Report - 2014Q4 \| KDE.news		Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu and Ubuntu Councils Issue Joint	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	Statement https://t.co/ocJYiSeDQj	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) Let's just pretend	Oct 26 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	everyone is 'happy'	Oct 26 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kubuntu and Ubuntu Councils Issue Joint Statement - Softpedia		Oct 26 15:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Ubuntu 15.10 a Fearless Werewolf or a Boring	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	One? https://t.co/9edGGGUDyk	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75ce	Oct 26 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Is Ubuntu 15.10 a Fearless Werewolf or a Boring One? - Softpedia		Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unleashing the Werewolf	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wHf6YurYcS (thestandard.com.ph)	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75ch	Oct 26 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thestandard.com.ph \| Unleashing the Werewolf - The Standard		Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	WiFi to products https://t.co/MDWXNlzTAv	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.edn.com)	Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75ck	Oct 26 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn.com \| Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding WiFi to products \| EDN		Oct 26 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ARM64 vs ARM32 -- What's different for Linux	Oct 26 15:37
TweetTuxMachines	programmers https://t.co/ZIyw637wZN	Oct 26 15:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.edn.com)	Oct 26 15:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75gw	Oct 26 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn.com \| ARM64 vs ARM32 -- What's different for Linux programmers \| EDN		Oct 26 15:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded	Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	systems https://t.co/GUWZcIxXvm	Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.newelectronics.co.uk)	Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75h0	Oct 26 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newelectronics.co.uk \| SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded systems		Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SGI Introduces the New UV 300RL With Oracle	Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/1g2ZMLZRHB (www.hpcwire.com)	Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75h1	Oct 26 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com \| SGI Introduces the New UV 300RL With Oracle Linux		Oct 26 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DaY0zoToKE (www.marketwatch.com)	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75mk	Oct 26 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com \| Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud - MarketWatch		Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	Hooper https://t.co/vFo7nf3APh (www.linux.com)	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75ml	Oct 26 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony Hooper \| Linux.com		Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	WiFi to products https://t.co/PBwrksIzPz	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75mu	Oct 26 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding WiFi to products \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	WiFi to products https://t.co/lnsoWunCkm	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75n3	Oct 26 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding WiFi to products \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Video Editors	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/N82NSjGjSU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75n5	Oct 26 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Linux Video Editors \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	Hooper https://t.co/KfEzLnAKU2	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75n8	Oct 26 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony Hooper \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	systems https://t.co/rQ2PuJl8dY	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75nb	Oct 26 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded systems \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 15:50
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658731753910067200	Oct 26 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Curious how Barbara Boxer--a progressive Dem. leader who represents SiVa (& funded by them)--"YES" yesterday on key #CISA vote.		Oct 26 15:58
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747762	Oct 26 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dualtec-cloud-builders-selects-red-hat-to-deploy-brazils-first-openstack-based-cloud-2015-10-26 #redhat #brazil #rhel #openstack		Oct 26 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.marketwatch.com \| Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/o75r7 ]		Oct 26 15:58
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747776	Oct 26 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Silicon Valley's opposition to #cisa mounts as US Senate prepares to vote http://www.cnet.com/news/silicon-valleys-opposition-to-cybersecurity-bill-mounts-as-us-senate-prepares-to-vote/#ftag=CAD590a51e #facebook in FAVOUR https://boingboing.net/2015/10/24/petition-facebook-betrayed-us.html		Oct 26 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com \| Silicon Valley's opposition to cybersecurity bill mounts as US Senate prepares to vote - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/o75r8 ]		Oct 26 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> boingboing.net \| Petition: Facebook betrayed us by secretly lobbying for cyber-surveillance bill / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/o75r9 ]		Oct 26 15:58
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/658735525558398981	Oct 26 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @retroDoomer @schestowitz you'll be saying The Wizard of Oz isn't a real wizard next!		Oct 26 16:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pro tip: Roll your own "app" for Chromebook	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IDiBjZ1jBN (www.techrepublic.com)	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75vs	Oct 26 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Pro tip: Roll your own "app" for Chromebook - TechRepublic		Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Here are the 9 New Ubuntu 15.10 Features You	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	Should Know https://t.co/KiWGsndgMp	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	(ubuntuportal.com)	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75vu	Oct 26 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuportal.com \| Here are the 9 New Ubuntu 15.10 Features You Should Know - Ubuntu Portal		Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Upgrading To Mesa 11.1-devel Worthwhile For	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon R600g Users? https://t.co/6u56Yptl80	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o75vv	Oct 26 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Is Upgrading To Mesa 11.1-devel Worthwhile For Radeon R600g Users? - Phoronix		Oct 26 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	download! https://t.co/7Nn9tzNnVz	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	(simplicitylinux.org)	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o762r	Oct 26 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simplicitylinux.org \| Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to download! - Simplicity Linux		Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS https://t.co/OYus4d4Mtn	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) ... https://t.co/gsH5OL7qo1	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	(joindiaspora.com)	Oct 26 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linux - Phoronix		Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o762t	Oct 26 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linuxhttp://www.ph...		Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android is the world's largest mobile platform	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	— but it has to overcome these massive hurdles	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	to keep the lead https://t.co/z8IlPPGWXu	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Oct 26 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o762v	Oct 26 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com \| Android is the world's largest mobile platform — but it has to overcome these massive hurdles to keep the lead - Business Insider		Oct 26 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Here's Why the Nexus 6P is the Top Android	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Today https://t.co/F60t8QU2Tr	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.thestreet.com)	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o768g	Oct 26 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com \| Here's Why the Nexus 6P is the Top Android Phone Today - TheStreet		Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mark command usecase https://t.co/ICRh8IxxHy	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	(dnf.baseurl.org)	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o768h	Oct 26 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org \| Mark command usecase \| DNF		Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Video Editors	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uWly1BaJJw (www.datamation.com)	Oct 26 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o768j	Oct 26 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| Best Linux Video Editors - Datamation		Oct 26 16:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Happy Distrovus: 3 big Linux Distros released	Oct 26 16:41
TweetTuxMachines	in 8 days https://t.co/H7AVT14vn2	Oct 26 16:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com)	Oct 26 16:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76bu	Oct 26 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Happy Distrovus: 3 big Linux Distros released in 8 days \| Network World		Oct 26 16:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 Gaming Impact With KDE Plasma 5	Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	Compositing For R600 Gallium3D	Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gGUpNM1Q2u (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76bw	Oct 26 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Kubuntu 15.10 Gaming Impact With KDE Plasma 5 Compositing For R600 Gallium3D - Phoronix		Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiamoi’s Linux laptop will be available in	Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	early 2016 https://t.co/5kspQd0V1x	Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Oct 26 16:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76bx	Oct 26 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Xiamoi's Linux Laptop Due For 2016 Release \| Digital Trends		Oct 26 16:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released!	Oct 26 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nF9l0nJVNq (tanglu.org)	Oct 26 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76ra	Oct 26 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tanglu.org \| Tanglu - Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released!		Oct 26 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available	Oct 26 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vFUi6wvLJW (www.kdevelop.org)	Oct 26 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76rc	Oct 26 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kdevelop.org \| First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available \| KDevelop		Oct 26 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to	Oct 26 17:19
TweetTuxMachines	download! https://t.co/A67VmhRGXg	Oct 26 17:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76re	Oct 26 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to download! \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 17:19
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r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747934	Oct 26 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linuxhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=4k-brew-amdnv&num=1		Oct 26 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linux - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/o76w9 ]		Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS Linux https://t.co/Hkf20SjtOb	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76w8	Oct 26 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released!	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xfsSLTc8G3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76wa	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/a0EJvcfGdT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76wc	Oct 26 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released! \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Experiment In Reviving Dead Open Source	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	Projects https://t.co/bxYbqSEPg8	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76wf	Oct 26 17:32
*TweetTuxMachines @vorelp favourited 'SGI Introduces the New UV 300RL With Oracle...'		Oct 26 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An Experiment In Reviving Dead Open Source Projects \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 17:32
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747932	Oct 26 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On #SteamOS Linuxhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=4k-brew-amdnv&num=1 great benchmark from #phoronix		Oct 26 17:33
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r_schestowitz	"I recommend you to watch Cowspiracy."	Oct 26 18:47
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6748457	Oct 26 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Climate Change Is Already Costing Us Billions of Dollars Every Year http://motherboard.vice.com/read/climate-change-is-already-costing-us-billions-of-dollars-every-year but oil giants still profit, so...		Oct 26 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Climate Change Is Already Costing Us Billions of Dollars Every Year \| Motherboard		Oct 26 18:47
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/658776591527489536	Oct 26 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz She has been rather ... critical. If she has been threatened, wow..		Oct 26 18:47
r_schestowitz	(Merpel)	Oct 26 18:47
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/658776288136724480	Oct 26 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I know :( but I can't do anything about it. I'll try though, promise. Will have an answer tomorrow. Don't know if it's possible		Oct 26 18:48
r_schestowitz	Rianne also needed to subscribe to the reviews section to see some Linux software reviews	Oct 26 18:48
r_schestowitz	An atmosphere of fear and intimidation persist now, not just among staff or even unions. Sun King wants it all. #epo #battistelli	Oct 26 18:49
r_schestowitz	(EPO)	Oct 26 18:49
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/658778336697655296	Oct 26 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Yes, those too are on a separate feed. It was webmaster's decision when he designed the site.		Oct 26 18:53
r_schestowitz	so do we (in thunderbird)	Oct 26 18:53
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/658778528255754240	Oct 26 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I also monitor all feeds on the website in Thunderbird (software, reviews, news, blogs).		Oct 26 18:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Record Week https://t.co/zDPUHh0ujw	Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) tuxmachines tripled in	Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	traffic since we took over 2 years ago	Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77to	Oct 26 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Record Week \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 of the most unconventional Android devices	Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	ever launched https://t.co/3HNxD5Uhaw	Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phonearena.com)	Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77v3	Oct 26 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| 5 of the most unconventional Android devices ever launched		Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year of the Linux Desktop: Flock 2015 Summary	Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/myphdSiVNE (blog.justinwflory.com)	Oct 26 19:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.justinwflory.com \| Year of the Linux Desktop - Justin W. Flory's Blog		Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DNF 1.1.3 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.13 Released	Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YvP0gy4SKZ (dnf.baseurl.org)	Oct 26 19:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org \| DNF 1.1.3 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.13 Released \| DNF		Oct 26 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting started with Fedora	Oct 26 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CV04IDK6wV	Oct 26 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	(mashaleonova.wordpress.com)	Oct 26 19:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashaleonova.wordpress.com \| Getting started with Fedora \| mashaleonova		Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The State of Android Gaming — Interesting	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	Takeaways From TestBird https://t.co/p4OuVj8AiW	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.xda-developers.com)	Oct 26 19:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com \| The State of Android Gaming -- Interesting Takeaways From TestBird - XDA Forums		Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to give an Android phone 3D Touch by	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	hacking its barometer https://t.co/1KEsdPNNyS	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	(bgr.com)	Oct 26 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/wyR9GPXrZg	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Screenshot Tours https://t.co/KJeLWnlXYd	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Screenshot Tours \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/7inB8e4PX7	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Big Data/Hosting https://t.co/lRurhyYg2y	Oct 26 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:13
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/658784629181280256	Oct 26 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz The perfect tyranny is that under which people think they have total freedom.		Oct 26 19:20
r_schestowitz	or that they help spread it to other countries. It empowers the illusion. "Freedom and democracy". If only....	Oct 26 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla's Giveaway https://t.co/iI85xi0wGr	Oct 26 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GeoJSON in Maps https://t.co/1fyOd7NqMQ	Oct 26 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	(jonasdn.blogspot.co.uk) #gnome	Oct 26 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Wishion for KDE – Part 1 – Now	Oct 26 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rrPnm2DvMr (blogs.fsfe.org) "KDE	Oct 26 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	is mostly about people. We are a huge project"	Oct 26 19:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jonasdn.blogspot.co.uk \| Things I do: GeoJSON in Maps		Oct 26 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.fsfe.org \| My Wishion for KDE – Part 1 – Now « Mario Fux		Oct 26 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,	Oct 26 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	Here's How https://t.co/KrmrbSzEbK	Oct 26 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 19:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10, Here's How - Softpedia		Oct 26 19:32
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,...'		Oct 26 19:32
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r_schestowitz	hi, papa	Oct 26 19:57
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6748727	Oct 26 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nytimes helps perpetuate #war by now revealing to its readers who the #pentagon and #cia are really killing http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/did-times-underplay-drone-program-leak/?smid=tw-share		Oct 26 20:13
r_schestowitz	"Sins must be confessed, doctor."	Oct 26 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/o78kx ]		Oct 26 20:13
r_schestowitz	The media prefers to hide these	Oct 26 20:13
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/toxicleaders/status/658793129257103361?t=1&cn=bWVudGlvbg%3D%3D&sig=d98cf73c5ab8c4f2612602088ccb613c8a2fd7d3&al=1&refsrc=email&iid=54c2aa21b8624d4cbcad7ff114954166&autoactions=1445903496&uid=26603208&nid=4+1267	Oct 26 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@toxicleaders: @4corners @schestowitz @Snowden US Military Justice system is in urgent need of reform: https://t.co/nIeajbU7Ce		Oct 26 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> medium.com \| US Military Justice system is in urgent need of reform — Medium		Oct 26 20:15
MinceR	http://members.efn.org/~paulmd/OwnWork/AdventuresinCensorship.pdf	Oct 26 20:45
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/658808462118395904	Oct 26 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I'd say lack of drivers, poor features for some desktop apps, and absence of decent apps in some niches are big gaps in #Linux		Oct 26 20:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Linux Demonstrates New Cloud Application	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	Store https://t.co/o4DQ7EOQwG (www.eweek.com)	Oct 26 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vendetta Online 1.8.356 3D Space Combat Game	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	Brings More Improvements >	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iTlgO3qCsZ (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 4 release	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	has various hardware support improvements"	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b2MOUov0l8 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	Here's How https://t.co/CSlY3BUAg7	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/ksxWWZIVyW	Oct 26 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ERJDExH9uU	Oct 26 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack's Professional Certification and	Oct 26 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	Project Nnavigator https://t.co/cyqAE5LiX9	Oct 26 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 4 Drops The CD	Oct 26 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	Sets https://t.co/Yh837svXsZ	Oct 26 22:05
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msb_	cubexyz: a couple of people on a devuan-related channel were talking about doing without some of these programs: udev udisks dbus pulseaudio libpulse systemd consolekit polkit policykit logind loginkit avahi I don't know what they do, but I remember that Linux used to be much simpler, although it required, e.g., specifying disks in fstab by hardware port numbers instead of disk IDs. Is such a simplified Linux possible? Desireable?	Oct 26 23:07
msb_	Especially if there's only a single user.	Oct 26 23:07
MinceR	hopefully possible, certainly desirable	Oct 26 23:08
MinceR	i'll attempt to do so via funtoo	Oct 26 23:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,...'		Oct 27 00:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines French Voters to Government: We Want More Free,	Oct 27 00:08
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source Software https://t.co/Y4YNtW5eOl	Oct 27 00:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| French Voters to Government: We Want More Free, Open Source Software \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 9 "Stretch" Installer Alpha 4 Drops	Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	Support for CDs, Adds Improvements	Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vM1CR1w4Tg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian 9 "Stretch" Installer Alpha 4 Drops Support for CDs, Adds Improvements \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Linux Demonstrates New Cloud Application	Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	Store https://t.co/tEaUXQEvet	Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Linux Demonstrates New Cloud Application Store \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Smallest ever Linux-capable wireless i.MX6	Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	module? https://t.co/iM7F9H3q8R	Oct 27 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian 9 "Stretch" Installer Alpha 4 Drops Support...'		Oct 27 01:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Miracle Comes to Linux	Oct 27 01:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S1DTn8FPGI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 01:22
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amarsh04	I still think that booting from a CD is more likely to work than booting on a USB stick (unless there is a filesystem well supported for booting like iso 9660 for CD's)	Oct 27 01:38
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cubexyz	yes, there's lots of simpler older linux systems still running	Oct 27 04:30
cubexyz	for example, FC1 doesn't have any of that stuff: udev udisks dbus pulseaudio libpulse systemd consolekit polkit policykit logind loginkit avahi	Oct 27 04:32
cubexyz	except for dbus	Oct 27 04:32
cubexyz	it works fine	Oct 27 04:32
cubexyz	dbus is just a way for applications to talk to each other	Oct 27 04:33
cubexyz	of course if you go further back there was no dbus, and naturally those systems worked too	Oct 27 04:34
cubexyz	there's nothing inherently bad about dbus though	Oct 27 04:34
cubexyz	FC1 uses alsa, not pulseaudio	Oct 27 04:35
cubexyz	the issue with using older Linux is stuff like web browsers changes so fast, which requires newer libraries, e.g. newer versions of gtk	Oct 27 04:36
cubexyz	the old way of doing devices was static	Oct 27 04:38
cubexyz	just a file in /dev	Oct 27 04:38
cubexyz	udev handles hot plugging and loading firmware as necessary	Oct 27 04:39
cubexyz	again, not inherently bad, but still a big change	Oct 27 04:39
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cubexyz	it meant that programmers had to change a lot of applications: e.g. anything hot pluggable now required different programming	Oct 27 04:40
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cubexyz	that doesn't mean that udev is essential to linux though	Oct 27 04:41
cubexyz	I found static files worked just fine	Oct 27 04:41
cubexyz	there are alternatives of course, OpenBSD doesn't bother with most of the noveau stuff either	Oct 27 04:42
cubexyz	so if you what a more traditional Unix, you really have it already in the BSDs	Oct 27 04:43
cubexyz	I suspect what will happen is that the older Linux crowd (who may be predisposed to using older hardware) will tee off an older Linux and upgrade applications as needed	Oct 27 04:45
cubexyz	some Linux people have called udev a "broken piece of shit" (no paraphrasing)	Oct 27 04:46
cubexyz	the old school Linux people want to stay with the Unix design philosophy	Oct 27 04:47
cubexyz	these days that means slackware, or distros based on debian wheezy, or devuan I suppose	Oct 27 04:50
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cubexyz	basically in KDE 2 & 3 we had a similar thing to dbus called DCOP	Oct 27 04:54
cubexyz	of course DCOP was replaced by dbus in KDE 4 and beyond	Oct 27 04:54
cubexyz	Microsoft make a thing called OLE or Object Linking and Embedding	Oct 27 04:56
cubexyz	back in 1990 or so	Oct 27 04:56
cubexyz	GNOME and KDE used a similar idea to this called bonobo and kparts respectively	Oct 27 04:57
cubexyz	basically some of these new ideas are fine... it's just the implementation of them that people worry about	Oct 27 05:00
cubexyz	bonodo was deprecated a while ago	Oct 27 05:00
cubexyz	since GNOME 2.4 I believe	Oct 27 05:00
cubexyz	a long time ago some Microsoft competitors came up with CIL or Component Intergation Laboratories but I'm not sure if anyone used it	Oct 27 05:03
cubexyz	this was back in 1994... "OpenDoc: A path to interoperability" :)	Oct 27 05:04
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc	Oct 27 05:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| OpenDoc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Oct 27 05:05
cubexyz	so yeah, the whole OpenDoc thing died on the vine quite some time ago	Oct 27 05:06
cubexyz	lots of busted-ass ideas, not all of them survive, but that doesn't mean some of the older ideas weren't good	Oct 27 05:07
cubexyz	Microsoft just tried to kill anything not from them	Oct 27 05:07
cubexyz	kparts survived... it's in trinity and I still use it	Oct 27 05:08
cubexyz	non-Microsoft ideas live on and are protected somewhat in the Linux/BSD ecosystem	Oct 27 05:09
cubexyz	you know, I'm glad I'm logging this :)	Oct 27 05:09
cubexyz	oh and Microsoft would not certify applications for win95 that used OpenDoc	Oct 27 05:11
cubexyz	that's another dirty trick for the file	Oct 27 05:11
cubexyz	ok.. updated..	Oct 27 05:13
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt	Oct 27 05:13
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schestowitz	[08:54] <cubexyz> basically in KDE 2 & 3 we had a similar thing to dbus called DCOP	Oct 27 05:14
schestowitz	still? Move on, ;-)	Oct 27 05:14
schestowitz	kf5 has been getting better	Oct 27 05:14
schestowitz	DCOP brings back memories of Konqueror	Oct 27 05:14
cubexyz	that's the good part of Linux/BSD	Oct 27 05:16
cubexyz	people can use what they want	Oct 27 05:16
cubexyz	I still use one KDE 1 application	Oct 27 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Linux Demonstrates New Cloud [sic]	Oct 27 05:19
TweetTuxMachines	Application Store https://t.co/YSirQtnurA	Oct 27 05:19
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 05:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Debian 9 "Stretch" Installer Alpha 4 Drops Support for CDs, Adds Improvements - Softpedia		Oct 27 05:19
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 05:19
cubexyz	believe it:	Oct 27 05:20
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/openbsd-krubik-kde1.png	Oct 27 05:21
cubexyz	now isn't that better than using creepy windows 10?	Oct 27 05:22
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 27 05:22
cubexyz	http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/windows-10-watching-you-fans-6187498	Oct 27 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk \| Windows 10 is watching YOU: Fans rage over Microsoft 'big brother spy software' - Mirror Online		Oct 27 05:25
cubexyz	https://www.rt.com/usa/311304-new-windows-privacy-issues/	Oct 27 05:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| ‘Incredibly intrusive’: Windows 10 spies on you by default — RT USA		Oct 27 05:28
cubexyz	solitaire comes with ads	Oct 27 05:30
cubexyz	that's pretty crap	Oct 27 05:31
cubexyz	can't wait for windows 11 where a fist comes out of the screen and punches you in the head	Oct 27 05:40
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 05:44
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 05:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 and MATE 1.12 to Arrive In a Few	Oct 27 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	Days, Says Clement Lefebvre	Oct 27 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3vJcB9Qb6t (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 05:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Cinnamon 2.8 and MATE 1.12 to Arrive in a Few Days, Says Clement Lefebvre - Softpedia		Oct 27 05:44
msb_	cubexyz: To load my clipboard, for my cli drag-n-drop system, I have this line in a script (for loading from stdin): qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper setClipboardContents "$(cat)"	Oct 27 06:16
msb_	That uses libqt4	Oct 27 06:17
cubexyz	:q	Oct 27 06:18
cubexyz	oops	Oct 27 06:18
msb_	The klipper is from KDE4.6 I guess qdbus is a cli command for accessing dbus.	Oct 27 06:18
msb_	IIRC you can use qdbus to explore the dbus connections available from a particular program like klipper.	Oct 27 06:20
cubexyz	we've been over that... remember I modded your stuff for KDE3?	Oct 27 06:22
msb_	Right. What was the X program you used to set the clipboard?	Oct 27 06:22
cubexyz	I don't think there was an X program used in that case	Oct 27 06:26
cubexyz	there was the old xsel but you didn't use that	Oct 27 06:27
cubexyz	you had a bash script called xsel instead, which I renamed to xsel1 because of the conflict	Oct 27 06:27
msb_	xselection?	Oct 27 06:28
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/pfiles-for-kde3.zip	Oct 27 06:29
cubexyz	it's all in there	Oct 27 06:29
msb_	Thanks!	Oct 27 06:29
cubexyz	xsel1 is the bash script that does the klipper stuff	Oct 27 06:30
cubexyz	I commented out the parts that were for KDE4	Oct 27 06:30
cubexyz	both are fairly similar	Oct 27 06:31
msb_	Right, I did save that, just didn't know what it was called. you used dcop on the KDE3 klipper	Oct 27 06:31
cubexyz	that's right	Oct 27 06:32
msb_	And it works on Trinity klipper?	Oct 27 06:32
cubexyz	ummm, could be different	Oct 27 06:35
msb_	So udev sets up the files in the /dev directory, right? Which is nice, except that it's now incorporated into systemd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev	Oct 27 06:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| udev - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Oct 27 06:46
cubexyz	ok, to answer your first question will it work on trinity... yes	Oct 27 06:47
cubexyz	but not across ssh like I was trying to do	Oct 27 06:47
cubexyz	due to the fact that the $DISPLAY variable is different	Oct 27 06:47
cubexyz	so trinity is doing the same things that KDE3 does basically	Oct 27 06:47
cubexyz	you can have udev without systemd	Oct 27 06:48
cubexyz	that's what slackware does	Oct 27 06:48
cubexyz	but yes, the pfile thing for kde3 should work on trinity without modification	Oct 27 06:48
cubexyz	udev is like a dynamic thing... I don't really like it but I do use it on one system	Oct 27 06:49
cubexyz	stuff is still in /dev but it's different with udev	Oct 27 06:51
cubexyz	e.g. /dev/bus/usb/005/002 <--- dynamic filename	Oct 27 06:51
cubexyz	you unplug your scanner and plug it in again, now the filename is different	Oct 27 06:51
cubexyz	I think that's stupid but whatever	Oct 27 06:51
cubexyz	in the old days you could just open /dev/usb/scanner0 and fprintf commands out to it	Oct 27 06:53
cubexyz	/dev/usb/scanner0 was scanner 0, it didn't change on a power cycle or unplug	Oct 27 06:53
msb_	I guess as long as you plugged it into the same USB port.	Oct 27 06:54
cubexyz	nope, it would increment the device number each time	Oct 27 06:54
cubexyz	didn't matter if it was the same port or not	Oct 27 06:55
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cubexyz	or rather udev did	Oct 27 06:55
msb_	I meant in the old days.	Oct 27 06:55
cubexyz	I can't remember the device filename changing in 10 years of use	Oct 27 06:55
cubexyz	I always had one scanner and it was /dev/usb/scanner0	Oct 27 06:56
XRevan86	Discussing "Predictable Network Interface Names"?	Oct 27 06:56
schestowitz	> I just checked with the latest Tails 1.6 image. It has Pidgin	Oct 27 06:56
cubexyz	honestly, I think the old method was better	Oct 27 06:56
schestowitz	> pre-loaded to use Tor. Tails' Pidgin allows Google Talk, Facebook	Oct 27 06:56
schestowitz	> (XMPP), IRC and general XMPP. However, as mentioned, Freenode blocks	Oct 27 06:56
schestowitz	> most, if not all, exit nodes. So in effect Freenode is blocked. IRC is	Oct 27 06:56
schestowitz	> therefore not an option for Tails users and using it without tails would	Oct 27 06:56
schestowitz	> give away the answers to who, when and where in regards to	Oct 27 06:57
schestowitz	> whistleblowing. Can you use XMPP?	Oct 27 06:57
schestowitz	I can, but whose server? Should I set one up just for this?	Oct 27 06:57
XRevan86	Facebook supports XMPP no more.	Oct 27 06:57
cubexyz	if you wanted to write your own scanner program it's a lot harder now	Oct 27 06:57
cubexyz	it's ok, if I say "windows 10 sucks" it doesn't have to be a secret :)	Oct 27 06:58
cubexyz	I'll go on record for that one	Oct 27 06:59
cubexyz	now I'm wondering did any distro not use udev	Oct 27 07:00
cubexyz	I think they changed the serial port names too	Oct 27 07:01
cubexyz	it's a mess	Oct 27 07:02
cubexyz	there's /sys/devices/platform/serial8250 and the like	Oct 27 07:03
cubexyz	but maybe /dev/ttyS0 is still there	Oct 27 07:04
msb_	So udev doesn't link the new variable dev names to a simple fixed one like /dev/scanner0 ?	Oct 27 07:04
cubexyz	nope	Oct 27 07:04
msb_	How do official scanner programs find the scanner?	Oct 27 07:04
cubexyz	that's depreciated	Oct 27 07:04
XRevan86	What's this conversation is about?	Oct 27 07:04
cubexyz	well, there is a method for it... it's in xscanimage	Oct 27 07:05
cubexyz	basically the changes in device names before and after udev was in Linux	Oct 27 07:06
cubexyz	basically you do something like:	Oct 27 07:06
cubexyz	xscanimage rts8891:libusb:005:002	Oct 27 07:06
cubexyz	but the numbers on the end could change, so it's stupid	Oct 27 07:06
cubexyz	in the old days if you knew the protocol you could hack up a simple program to send commands to the scanner	Oct 27 07:07
msb_	Can you do lusb and look for "scanner", when the program starts?	Oct 27 07:07
cubexyz	all that stuff is severely obfuscated nowadays	Oct 27 07:08
cubexyz	ha, well not quite	Oct 27 07:08
cubexyz	it probably doesn't use the word 'scanner'	Oct 27 07:08
cubexyz	just the make and model #	Oct 27 07:09
cubexyz	that's another reason why trinity is necessary... kooka stopped working with the change to udev	Oct 27 07:11
cubexyz	my simple utilities stopped working as well	Oct 27 07:12
msb_	So you can store your make and model in a file somewhere, and have your program access it. Once you code it, it will work effortlessly.	Oct 27 07:12
msb_	SMOP	Oct 27 07:12
cubexyz	you can't just open the device with fopen	Oct 27 07:13
msb_	Linux works around all obstacles!	Oct 27 07:13
cubexyz	no fprintf, on fgetc, etc	Oct 27 07:14
cubexyz	it doesn't work	Oct 27 07:14
msb_	How do you send commands to the scanner now?	Oct 27 07:14
cubexyz	not to mention the scanner protocol itself is now obfuscated by most companies	Oct 27 07:14
cubexyz	I don't use my own utilities, I have to use xscanimage	Oct 27 07:15
cubexyz	the general situtation is not good at all	Oct 27 07:16
msb_	But our user experience has been improved. 8^(	Oct 27 07:17
cubexyz	it's not just about trying to lockout linux... it's worse than that	Oct 27 07:18
cubexyz	they are also locking out old windows!	Oct 27 07:18
cubexyz	obviously so people have to keep buying more hardware	Oct 27 07:18
cubexyz	I complaining a lot to HP about this, but got nowhere	Oct 27 07:19
cubexyz	complained	Oct 27 07:19
msb_	HP is a military corporation.	Oct 27 07:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Android has 1.4 billion monthly active users	Oct 27 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	on its smartphones and tablets."	Oct 27 07:20
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cubexyz	I did chronicle my epic battle with HP:	Oct 27 07:22
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hp.txt	Oct 27 07:22
msb_	If people buy new computers, we can tell them about Linux. If we have a good up-to-date non-systemd Linux to tell them about.	Oct 27 07:22
cubexyz	that's another thing I have to figure out... scanning on chromebooks	Oct 27 07:22
cubexyz	because if I say, "hey buy a chromebook" I know they'll ask about printing and scanning	Oct 27 07:23
msb_	I think the lesson learned here, plus when I phone them about my inkjet printer that crapped out and they wouldn't talk to me unless I paid them $75, is Never buy anything from HP.	Oct 27 07:27
cubexyz	ha, well I did just recently	Oct 27 07:27
cubexyz	my chromebook is made by HP	Oct 27 07:27
msb_	Hope it has a long warranty. Otherwise it'll cost ya.	Oct 27 07:28
cubexyz	how can I made a blanket statement "HP is bad" when my laserjet from 1997 still works?	Oct 27 07:28
cubexyz	I guess I could say "HP is not as good as they used to be"	Oct 27 07:29
msb_	Or, HP is bad now, never buy anything from them.	Oct 27 07:29
cubexyz	well, not a scanner at least	Oct 27 07:30
msb_	I put HP in the same bag with Microsoft and Intel. Never buy anything from any of them.	Oct 27 07:30
msb_	Or a printer.	Oct 27 07:31
cubexyz	Epson has SANE friendly scanners and printers	Oct 27 07:32
msb_	Alright!	Oct 27 07:33
msb_	Feed the good wolf!	Oct 27 07:33
cubexyz	Epson still sells dot matrix printers too	Oct 27 07:33
msb_	Real programmers use teletypes!	Oct 27 07:35
cubexyz	oh and I own an HP laptop as well :)	Oct 27 07:39
cubexyz	so HP is both good and bad	Oct 27 07:39
cubexyz	the IBM thinkpad lasted the longest of all my laptops	Oct 27 07:43
cubexyz	14 years and counting	Oct 27 07:43
cubexyz	do I think it's the best laptop ever? No	Oct 27 07:43
cubexyz	taking it apart is a pain	Oct 27 07:44
cubexyz	there's no substitute for putting the time in and learning about your hardware	Oct 27 07:45
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/658975501785112576	Oct 27 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz True, the king of the thugs blocked/censored #techrights for the entire staff however villainous as he is he excluded himselve		Oct 27 08:34
schestowitz	No censorship here : http://zeronet.io/	Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zeronet.io \| ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network		Oct 27 08:35
schestowitz	http://twister.net.co/	Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'twister.net.co' ( status 0 @ http://twister.net.co/ )		Oct 27 08:35
schestowitz	https://onionshare.org/	Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-onionshare.org \| OnionShare		Oct 27 08:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6714120	Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Tonga uses #paedophilia" as pretext for imposed (nn everyone) #internet #censorship http://matangitonga.to/2015/10/13/government-censorship-concern-should-not-be-ignored		Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> matangitonga.to \| Government censorship - a concern that should not be ignored \| Matangi Tonga		Oct 27 08:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6738953	Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Snowden leaks reveal harmfulness of US #monopoly on #internet – Russian minister https://www.rt.com/news/319522-snowden-leaks-us-monopoly/ also harmful to US		Oct 27 08:35
schestowitz	"no monopoly here : http://zeronet.io/"	Oct 27 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rt.com \| Snowden leaks reveal harmfulness of US monopoly on internet – Russian minister — RT News		Oct 27 08:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6739319	Oct 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISPs don’t have 1st Amendment right to edit Internet, #FCC tells court http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/isps-dont-have-1st-amendment-right-to-edit-internet-fcc-tells-court/ #internet #netneutrality		Oct 27 08:36
schestowitz	"commercial* ISP"	Oct 27 08:36
schestowitz	indeed	Oct 27 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| ISPs don’t have 1st Amendment right to edit Internet, FCC tells court \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/o7d79 ]		Oct 27 08:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6740203	Oct 27 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISPs Fail on Privacy Scorecard http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/isps-fail-on-privacy-scorecard/ #privacy #internet		Oct 27 08:37
schestowitz	"it is commercial ISP , what a joke"	Oct 27 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infosecurity-magazine.com \| ISPs Fail on Privacy Scorecard - Infosecurity Magazine		Oct 27 08:37
cubexyz	does the US really control the internet?	Oct 27 08:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6749824	Oct 27 08:37
schestowitz	Fax it to the branches addressed to no-one and it gets passed around the staff before getting to management, in my experience really pisses them off ;)"	Oct 27 08:37
schestowitz	I heard that Topic now walks up and down the corridors there removing unwanted posters :0)	Oct 27 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's sad & ironic in a sense that #battistelli and his #epo thugs cannot read what #techrights says about them because they blocked the site		Oct 27 08:38
schestowitz	"It is neutral here : http://zeronet.io/ "	Oct 27 08:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6730748	Oct 27 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NetNeutrality in Europe: Now or Never! http://www.laquadrature.net/en/netneutrality-now-or-never #europe #internet		Oct 27 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.laquadrature.net \| Net Neutrality in Europe: Now or Never! \| La Quadrature du Net		Oct 27 08:38
cubexyz	https://www.popularresistance.org/creating-an-alternative-internet-to-keep-the-nsa-out/	Oct 27 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popularresistance.org \| Creating An Alternative Internet To Keep The NSA Out \| PopularResistance.Org		Oct 27 08:43
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6688558	Oct 27 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ICANN: Just give us the keys to the internet – or the web will disintegrate http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/08/icann_fires_fear_fuzzy_logic_iana_transition/ #icann #internet		Oct 27 08:45
schestowitz	"	Oct 27 08:45
schestowitz	I think you 're searching for this : http://namecoin.info/	Oct 27 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| ICANN: Just give us the keys to the internet – or the web will disintegrate • The Register		Oct 27 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://namecoin.info/ )		Oct 27 08:45
schestowitz	https://theumlaut.com/2014/02/05/namecoin-icann/	Oct 27 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://theumlaut.com/2014/02/05/namecoin-icann/ )		Oct 27 08:45
schestowitz	"	Oct 27 08:45
schestowitz	I really want to crush this monopoly	Oct 27 08:45
schestowitz	cubexyz: yes, thank you	Oct 27 08:46
schestowitz	[12:37] <cubexyz> does the US really control the internet?	Oct 27 08:46
schestowitz	yes, root DNS	Oct 27 08:46
schestowitz	!google condy rice internet control	Oct 27 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Condoleezza Rice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice	Oct 27 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Condoleezza Rice on the Issues \| http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm	Oct 27 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Rice's stance on controversial issues - POLITICO \| http://www.politico.com/story/2012/07/rices-stance-on-controversial-issues-078489	Oct 27 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Read the letter that won the internet governance battle • The Register \| http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/02/rice_eu_letter/	Oct 27 08:46
schestowitz	see [4]	Oct 27 08:46
schestowitz	I think it's wrong, and no wonder China or Russia ask for change	Oct 27 08:46
schestowitz	If only the US was ranked high for press freedom	Oct 27 08:47
schestowitz	it's not, at least not anymore	Oct 27 08:47
schestowitz	so time for change	Oct 27 08:47
cubexyz	that letter doesn't really say much	Oct 27 08:49
cubexyz	just a bunch of blah blah	Oct 27 08:49
cubexyz	mostly just political rhetoric	Oct 27 08:50
cubexyz	there's no oversight for ICANN	Oct 27 08:52
cubexyz	The Government Advisory Committee advises ICANN	Oct 27 08:53
cubexyz	looks like Microsoft controls microsoft.sucks :)	Oct 27 08:55
cubexyz	or they have a redirector on the domain	Oct 27 08:56
cubexyz	bing.sucks just takes you to bing	Oct 27 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7dew	Oct 27 09:22
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MinceR	093340 < cubexyz> dbus is just a way for applications to talk to each other	Oct 27 11:36
MinceR	a badly designed one	Oct 27 11:36
MinceR	though there's yet hope for fixing that with a reimplementation	Oct 27 11:36
MinceR	(when restarting the daemon, hand its file descriptors over to the new instance)	Oct 27 11:36
cubexyz	the dcopserver lives on in trinity :)	Oct 27 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/O4kLPNuvpB	Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/658997105508249600	Oct 27 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 27/10/2015: Tanglu 4.0, Simplicity Linux	Oct 27 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 15.10 https://t.co/aDhE2kyWSl (techrights.org)	Oct 27 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 27 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7e6y	Oct 27 12:21
MinceR	https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20151027/06432332646/european-unions-new-net-neutrality-protections-are-joke.shtml	Oct 27 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com \| The European Union's New Net Neutrality 'Protections' Are A Joke \| Techdirt		Oct 27 13:07
schestowitz	Control_Risks	Oct 27 13:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ByeBads/status/659066004983574528	Oct 27 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ByeBads: @schestowitz protecting and promoting the open internet nprm fccgov https://t.co/7AcnJRwFgg		Oct 27 13:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AnTuTu’s Top 10 Android Smartphones Of Q3 2015	Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	List Is Here https://t.co/g0FgffU5xX	Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.com)	Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7evd	Oct 27 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com \| AnTuTu’s Top 10 Android Smartphones Of Q3 2015 List Is Here		Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry’s $699 Android gambit is too much	Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	too late https://t.co/W5uuffkkxj	Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7eve	Oct 27 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| BlackBerry’s $699 Android gambit is too much too late \| The Verge		Oct 27 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Looking for a Community Lead for Project Atomic	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FmWBOIFq5J (dissociatedpress.net)	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ewz	Oct 27 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissociatedpress.net \| Looking for a Community Lead for Project Atomic \| Dissociated Press		Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Verizon’s New Android Phone Has a Shatter-Proof	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	Screen https://t.co/vLlBK1HXkI (time.com)	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ex0	Oct 27 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Motorola's Droid Turbo 2 Has A Shatter-Proof Screen		Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines As a longtime Android user, here are my 3 early	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	gripes about the iPhone 6s	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3yR0ojJqMA (bgr.com)	Oct 27 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ex1	Oct 27 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Android vs. iPhone 6s comparison: My three biggest disappointments \| BGR		Oct 27 14:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/659071921842212864	Oct 27 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz better then no rules		Oct 27 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Clever Hack Kinda-Sorta Brings 3D Touch to	Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/hJJgwTKuFD (gizmodo.com)	Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f0u	Oct 27 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| A Clever Hack Kinda-Sorta Brings 3D Touch to Android		Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting Started with Fedora – Update	Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z1ExugBLJk	Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	(eischmann.wordpress.com) "Fedora’ handbook	Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	which we had published in Czech."	Oct 27 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com \| Getting Started with Fedora – Update \| Brno's hat		Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f0v	Oct 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chaos Reborn Fantasy Strategy Game Fully	Oct 27 14:33
TweetTuxMachines	Released For Linux https://t.co/tcWVV2lN6b	Oct 27 14:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 27 14:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f0y	Oct 27 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Chaos Reborn Fantasy Strategy Game Fully Released For Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 27 14:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Developers Of Ashes Of The Singularity State	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Will Come After Vulkan Arrives	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ClByB6gkEZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f4x	Oct 27 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Developers Of Ashes Of The Singularity State Linux Will Come After Vulkan Arrives \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Long Dark Survival Game Launches An	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Experimental Branch For Linux	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BYyM4DdCNd (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f4y	Oct 27 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Long Dark Survival Game Launches An Experimental Branch For Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A happy home https://t.co/2bl8nZ4DXa	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxformat.com)	Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f4z	Oct 27 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxformat.com \| A happy home \| Linux Format		Oct 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Android Marshmallow tips and tricks you can	Oct 27 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	show off to your friends	Oct 27 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tSuSIDfoE2 (siliconangle.com)	Oct 27 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6p	Oct 27 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com \| 8 Android Marshmallow tips and tricks you can show off to your friends \| SiliconANGLE		Oct 27 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Android Marshmallow tips and tricks you can	Oct 27 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	show off to your friends	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tSuSIDwZvA (siliconangle.com)	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6q	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5 Powers KaOS Productivity	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YpxoOyA8Dq (www.linuxinsider.com)	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6r	Oct 27 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Plasma 5 Powers KaOS Productivity \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro GNOME 15.09 R2 Arrives with GNOME	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	3.18.1 and Linux Kernel 4.1.11 LTS	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JxeFtGNpX8 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6s	Oct 27 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro GNOME 15.09 R2 Arrives with GNOME 3.18.1 and Linux Kernel 4.1.11 LTS - Softpedia		Oct 27 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5 will be the default desktop	Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	environment in Chakra https://t.co/qKVVjSOf5f	Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(chakraos.org)	Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f75	Oct 27 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chakraos.org \| Plasma 5 will be the default desktop environment in Chakra \| Chakra \| News		Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has	Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	Started https://t.co/K1djpWwKdi	Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f76	Oct 27 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has Started - Softpedia		Oct 27 15:00
*TweetTuxMachines @TecnologiaFree retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has Started...'		Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDevelop 5.0.0 Beta 1 available !	Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cxTtau7FH4 (milianw.de)	Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f85	Oct 27 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-milianw.de \| KDevelop 5.0.0 Beta 1 available! \| Milian Wolff		Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The lamentable state of Linux and email clients	Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/grh7IGHjwS (www.techrepublic.com)	Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f86	Oct 27 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| The lamentable state of Linux and email clients - TechRepublic		Oct 27 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDevelop 5.0.0 Beta 1 available	Oct 27 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	!https://t.co/cxTtau7FH4 (milianw.de)	Oct 27 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fat	Oct 27 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th	Oct 27 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	Gen Core https://t.co/J2gZS49F8g	Oct 27 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fau	Oct 27 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th Gen Core · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DoubleCMD 0.6.6 Has Been Released	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9fw3td4vxh (linuxg.net)	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fav	Oct 27 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| DoubleCMD 0.6.6 Has Been Released \| LinuxG.net		Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/grC4qruOL2	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fax	Oct 27 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora: The Latest \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/2nupIPE1RC	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fay	Oct 27 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux / Open Source on Churches	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S6Q4Osdd7Z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7faz	Oct 27 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux / Open Source on Churches \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	Gen Core https://t.co/Gbu2OXdMO7	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fb0	Oct 27 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th Gen Core \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 15:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	with customised, mass-produced boards	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iIId7ZqKhy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fhy	Oct 27 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion with customised, mass-produced boards \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiaomi Linux Laptop To Enter Production Early	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	Next Year https://t.co/twHEJBjacT	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fhz	Oct 27 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Xiaomi's Linux Laptop To Enter Production 'Early Next Year'		Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alta Data Technologies Releases Linux 4.1.1	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Support for MIL-STD-1553 and ARINC	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	Products https://t.co/rweB2Gwsi7	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.businesswire.com)	Oct 27 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fi0	Oct 27 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com \| Alta Data Technologies Releases Linux 4.1.1 Kernel Support for MIL-STD-1553 and ARINC Products \| Business Wire		Oct 27 15:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/edent/status/659092285431353344	Oct 27 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edent: Where do I pre-order? https://t.co/rtkyBONWtR		Oct 27 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Xiaomi #Linux Laptop To Enter Production Early Next Year https://t.co/RynKUyz1Gd #gnu #china		Oct 27 15:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Rubonist/status/659093714095251457	Oct 27 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Rubonist: @edent @schestowitz let me know if you get a reply!		Oct 27 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Nows Run Any Ubuntu, but not	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME, KDE, Unity https://t.co/CMd0MbAd3p	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fjm	Oct 27 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Raspberry Pi Nows Run Any Ubuntu, but not GNOME, KDE, Unity \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	with customised, mass-produced boards	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z8JGTMjmVJ (www.cnet.com)	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fjn	Oct 27 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com \| Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion with customised, mass-produced boards - CNET		Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Adds New "Chell" Chromebook & New	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Coreboot Graphics Library	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tYZtfWGiCL (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fjo	Oct 27 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Google Adds New "Chell" Chromebook & New Coreboot Graphics Library - Phoronix		Oct 27 15:48
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cubexyz	deleted?	Oct 27 15:49
schestowitz	yeah	Oct 27 15:54
schestowitz	missing space	Oct 27 15:54
schestowitz	between URL and title	Oct 27 15:54
schestowitz	I reposted that, correctly the second or third time	Oct 27 15:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux / Open Source on Churches	Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oNKD8ZlNAt (www.linux.com)	Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fm8	Oct 27 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux / Open Source on Churches \| Linux.com		Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solu Mini-PC Taps Linux for Organic Cloud UI	Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/B91b5CcHXE (www.linux.com)	Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fm9	Oct 27 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Solu Mini-PC Taps Linux for Organic Cloud UI \| Linux.com		Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 Through Fedora 23 Benchmarks	Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HZxKkEbNF2 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fma	Oct 27 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 20 Through Fedora 23 Benchmarks - Phoronix		Oct 27 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux in the Office https://t.co/KLumVuluNT	Oct 27 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.chris-shaw.com)	Oct 27 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GParted 0.24 Adds ZFS & NVMe Detection	Oct 27 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/U4wWjHDKZe (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fpb	Oct 27 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| GParted 0.24 Adds ZFS & NVMe Detection - Phoronix		Oct 27 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Companies That Support Linux: Rausch	Oct 27 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	Netzwerktechnik https://t.co/VBIegZMwcs	Oct 27 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Oct 27 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fpc	Oct 27 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Companies That Support Linux: Rausch Netzwerktechnik \| Linux.com		Oct 27 16:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UBS upgrades Micro Focus, eyes spin-out of	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	Linux unit https://t.co/Z9AlwIrisb	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk)	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dgfpMTLbFC	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.financialwisdomworks.com)	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cLDauS72Uc (www.octafinance.com)	Oct 27 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk \| UBS upgrades Micro Focus, eyes spin-out of Linux unit		Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7frf	Oct 27 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.financialwisdomworks.com \| Micro Focus International plc Given Average Rating of “Buy” by Brokerages (LON:MCRO) \| Financial Wisdom Works		Oct 27 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.octafinance.com \| UBS Reiterated Micro Focus International (LON:MCRO) As Buy; Has Target Price per Share Of GBX 1460.00 - Octafinance		Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines San Francisco Considers Pioneering Open Source	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	Voting Machine Software https://t.co/SKse5kDJGG	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7frg	Oct 27 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| San Francisco Considers Pioneering Open Source Voting Machine Software \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch with a Mouse Cursor Is Interesting	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	and Cool at the Same Time	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hHMbTGMWqD (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 16:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7frh	Oct 27 16:22
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-7-bsod.jpg	Oct 27 16:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6751243	Oct 27 17:08
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th1lde	microsoft Jack	Oct 27 17:11
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th1lde_	hi	Oct 27 17:44
XRevan86	th1lde: hi	Oct 27 17:45
th1lde_	I've recently discovered Microsoft Jack.	Oct 27 17:46
th1lde_	how is this guy getting away with it	Oct 27 17:49
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th1lde	"Ask Jack" column in guardian	Oct 27 17:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Mate Tools Bring Ubuntu Flavors to	Oct 27 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/0VN9R6nceC	Oct 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is SteamOS Any Faster Than Ubuntu 15.10 Linux?	Oct 27 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4nUdVr6djN (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “rkt v0.10.0 is here and marks another	Oct 27 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	important milestone on our path to creating the	Oct 27 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	most secure” https://t.co/DbgUYVOpfl	Oct 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/qks066ggfr	Oct 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/rju3WSfkQS	Oct 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jonathan Riddell: Resolving Tension	Oct 27 18:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LiHfdBVbIn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/EojatP11bS	Oct 27 18:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Based Ubuntu Phones: Aquaris E4.5 and E5	Oct 27 18:13
TweetTuxMachines	Now In Market https://t.co/1RIM0mw1dD	Oct 27 18:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 18:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu	Oct 27 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dJfzm2RvGd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mirantis looks to China to fuel OpenStack	Oct 27 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	growth https://t.co/QgcVFMBKzL	Oct 27 19:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/ryevka9T5C	Oct 27 19:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/c2jUvgMHTd	Oct 27 19:22
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schestowitz	that’s an october 2014 release…	Oct 27 20:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6751082	Oct 27 20:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6749515	Oct 27 20:12
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schestowitz	"Sorry, I am. It’ll be released in November. Pretty soon, an unexpected date for me."	Oct 27 20:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659162596642164736	Oct 27 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @Snowden @schestowitz The only hope now is that 1/2 the GOP in Congress will strangle the other 1/2 of the GOP in Congress, before passing.		Oct 27 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights	Oct 27 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lT36nc7Bd3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 20:50
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6752590	Oct 27 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Force #Obama To Weigh In On #Encryption Debate https://theintercept.com/2015/10/27/tech-companies-and-civil-liberties-groups-force-obama-to-weigh-in-on-encryption-debate/ he and #cameron want back doors, MSFT delivers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA		Oct 27 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now	Oct 27 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	what? https://t.co/cKDnlkqLfK	Oct 27 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	(searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com)	Oct 27 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7hej	Oct 27 21:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xfce Smooth: the smooth variations	Oct 27 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dsfRZYwukP	Oct 27 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxblog.darkduck.com)	Oct 27 21:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM and Apache Spark https://t.co/MGwU8zYgkO	Oct 27 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now	Oct 27 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	what? https://t.co/qinSlh6fc2	Oct 27 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7hle	Oct 27 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xfce Smooth: the smooth variations	Oct 27 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4r0LaFuyA8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire 2.17 - Core Update 94 released	Oct 27 22:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659292826820308992 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659292572226068480	Oct 28 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz More are easy to find, if you look at the recent decisions. Also less recent.		Oct 28 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz 01903233 05111312 07716724 04706946 07702856 99916241		Oct 28 05:00
schestowitz	Thanks, which site?	Oct 28 05:00
cubexyz	who is Microsoft Jack?	Oct 28 05:04
cubexyz	oh, that guy	Oct 28 05:06
cubexyz	a pipe smoking idiot	Oct 28 05:07
cubexyz	I wouldn't worry too much about him	Oct 28 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solved: The Case of the Missing SteamOS Icons	Oct 28 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RB7HFGAzca (fossforce.com)	Oct 28 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7imz	Oct 28 05:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Solved: The Case of the Missing SteamOS Icons \| FOSS Force		Oct 28 05:08
cubexyz	he's full of shit	Oct 28 05:09
cubexyz	no more to say	Oct 28 05:09
cubexyz	you either have source code, or your a slave	Oct 28 05:09
cubexyz	think about Ken Thompson instead	Oct 28 05:11
cubexyz	now which operating system does Thompson use?	Oct 28 05:11
cubexyz	he uses Linux	Oct 28 05:11
cubexyz	now I think that pretty well sums it up	Oct 28 05:11
cubexyz	so talk about Thompson and people like him	Oct 28 05:12
cubexyz	that other guy isn't even worth debating	Oct 28 05:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659296147752767488	Oct 28 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz https://t.co/LxjDNwRqxX online file inspection or case law.		Oct 28 05:13
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schestowitz	[09:09] <cubexyz> he's full of shit	Oct 28 05:13
schestowitz	Worse, he promotes MSFT	Oct 28 05:13
schestowitz	[09:13] <cubexyz> that other guy isn't even worth debating	Oct 28 05:13
schestowitz	He can be VERY rude	Oct 28 05:14
schestowitz	[21:46] <th1lde_> I've recently discovered Microsoft Jack.	Oct 28 05:14
schestowitz	[21:49] <th1lde_> how is this guy getting away with it	Oct 28 05:14
cubexyz	sure, but that merely indicates his intellectual level	Oct 28 05:14
schestowitz	He hates it when I call him out	Oct 28 05:14
schestowitz	I think he sort of thretaened me	Oct 28 05:14
schestowitz	and later blocked me in twitter	Oct 28 05:14
schestowitz	we're like big ol' enemies	Oct 28 05:15
schestowitz	but at least he knows his material is being watched	Oct 28 05:15
schestowitz	if he knows he can get called out, that affects his writing and topics	Oct 28 05:15
cubexyz	who invented Unix and C language? not that guy :)	Oct 28 05:15
schestowitz	which is the case with many other writers	Oct 28 05:15
schestowitz	inc. drpizza, MS Petter	Oct 28 05:15
schestowitz	They know their editor is watching their bias	Oct 28 05:15
schestowitz	and being called "Microsoft X" isn't a compliment to them	Oct 28 05:15
cubexyz	didn't drpizza call Microsoft an "evil empire"?	Oct 28 05:16
schestowitz	No way	Oct 28 05:16
schestowitz	maybe as a joke	Oct 28 05:16
schestowitz	like, you know, the 'evil empire', as in Star Wars	Oct 28 05:16
schestowitz	he likes MSFT	Oct 28 05:16
cubexyz	is DrPizza Jason Perlow?	Oct 28 05:16
cubexyz	I guess that must be a different person	Oct 28 05:17
cubexyz	Peter Bright is Drpizza :)	Oct 28 05:18
cubexyz	my mistake	Oct 28 05:18
cubexyz	well I'll just say a lot of stuff comes from BSD	Oct 28 05:19
cubexyz	Bell Labs + BSD	Oct 28 05:19
cubexyz	these journalists aren't important	Oct 28 05:20
cubexyz	ol' Jacko probably doesn't even believe what he writes	Oct 28 05:21
cubexyz	just likes to stir people up, just ignore him	Oct 28 05:21
cubexyz	I know the type	Oct 28 05:22
cubexyz	who cares what a paid astro-turfer says?	Oct 28 05:23
cubexyz	that's basically Microsoft marketing	Oct 28 05:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android-based “Brillo” IoT OS arrives with	Oct 28 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	hacker SBC support https://t.co/OTYH2IdDbI	Oct 28 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 28 05:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu	Oct 28 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gAzOq4EMhF (www.itworld.com)	Oct 28 05:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| ITworld		Oct 28 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10	Oct 28 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1NLXn1FnMN	Oct 28 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.adventuresinoss.com)	Oct 28 05:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com \| First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 \| Adventures in Open Source		Oct 28 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia	Oct 28 05:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZtJ6we5ffw (mrpogson.com)	Oct 28 05:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia \| Robert Pogson		Oct 28 05:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android-based “Brillo” IoT OS arrives with	Oct 28 05:29
TweetTuxMachines	hacker SBC support https://t.co/8U7dH0l5Ar	Oct 28 05:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Opera, Chakra Plasma 5, Riddell Responds	Oct 28 05:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zXNgM3ccBX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 05:29
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cubexyz	the NSA can't really brick the PC of a knowledgeable user	Oct 28 05:33
cubexyz	there is a defense:	Oct 28 05:33
cubexyz	socketed bios + external programmer (they are cheap these days)	Oct 28 05:33
cubexyz	also I have older computers that have roms for firmware so it's impossible to brick it that way	Oct 28 05:34
cubexyz	it is the new motherboards that worry me	Oct 28 05:35
cubexyz	up to the 1999/2000 era I feel confident, but after that...	Oct 28 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10	Oct 28 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cRLIGusenk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ira	Oct 28 05:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kJH3bKSros (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7irc	Oct 28 05:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Daily Builds	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	Now Available for Download	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Jy7pNdLlPa (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	release date: https://t.co/gVXPuW6NQE	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 05:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.12 LTS Now Available for	Oct 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Has a Little Bit of Everything	Oct 28 05:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Confirmed: Two Xiaomi Linux Laptops All Set For	Oct 28 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	Mass Production In 2016 https://t.co/D9pidQKK73	Oct 28 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techtimes.com)	Oct 28 05:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Confirmed: Two Xiaomi Linux Laptops All Set For Mass Production In 2016 : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times		Oct 28 05:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/659302403360079872	Oct 28 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Looks like Fedora 23 beta FC6 is being tested today...		Oct 28 05:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another highly anticipated game comes to gnu	Oct 28 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	linux https://t.co/lSqVT196nS (gamasutra.com)	Oct 28 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QDllgMhO5Y (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7it7	Oct 28 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Alien: Isolation - The Collection Creeps on to PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One Today		Oct 28 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Alien: Isolation - The Collection Arrives on Linux and Mac OS X - Softpedia		Oct 28 05:49
*TweetTuxMachines @mccourt_360 favourited 'Another highly anticipated game comes to gnu linux...'		Oct 28 05:49
schestowitz	"Hah. No backdoor is needed for MSFT. The front door is wiiiiiiide open."	Oct 28 06:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6752590	Oct 28 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Force #Obama To Weigh In On #Encryption Debate https://theintercept.com/2015/10/27/tech-companies-and-civil-liberties-groups-force-obama-to-weigh-in-on-encryption-debate/ he and #cameron want back doors, MSFT delivers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA		Oct 28 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com \| Tech Companies and Civil Liberties Groups Force Obama To Weigh In On Encryption Debate [ http://ur1.ca/o7g2t ]		Oct 28 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights		Oct 28 06:28
schestowitz	tell me about it... http://techrights.org/2015/07/25/back-doors-and-front-doors/	Oct 28 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Vista 10 (Windows 10) Has NSA Back Doors and Front Doors \| Techrights		Oct 28 06:28
schestowitz	Oh Nooos! I’ll have to Learn Something New!	Oct 28 06:28
schestowitz	"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6752616"	Oct 28 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now what? http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/feature/Poof-Youre-also-a-Linux-administrator-Now-what #gnu #linux		Oct 28 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com \| Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now what?		Oct 28 06:28
schestowitz	"relax, lemgandi, it’s just a cheat sheet for the BOFHs who thought they were too smart all along to have to learn any linux'	Oct 28 06:28
schestowitz	shock and horror, restarting windows isn't "computer skills"	Oct 28 06:29
cubexyz	since when was windows the sole operating system for data centres?	Oct 28 06:33
cubexyz	faulty premise	Oct 28 06:33
cubexyz	early ISPs used BSD	Oct 28 06:33
cubexyz	for the sheeple:	Oct 28 06:38
cubexyz	Microsoft did _not_ invent the following...	Oct 28 06:39
cubexyz	transistor, computer, ethernet, TCP/IP, mouse, keyboard, etc etc :)	Oct 28 06:39
cubexyz	Journalists seem to get dumber every year	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	> x http://time.com/4089760/bill-gates-the-early-years/	Oct 28 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Bill Gates: The Early Years		Oct 28 06:44
schestowitz	>	Oct 28 06:44
schestowitz	> Bill "The Internet is just a passing fad" Gates	Oct 28 06:44
schestowitz	meh	Oct 28 06:44
schestowitz	There are many other commercial applications that are not available through official repositories. You can install Google Chrome (which is partially open source) and Dropbox (as there is no official Google Drive client for Linux) by downloading the .deb files to your system.	Oct 28 06:55
schestowitz	Whattt ?	Oct 28 06:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753257	Oct 28 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 7 things to do after installing #Ubuntu http://www.itworld.com/article/2997550/linux/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html #gnu #linux		Oct 28 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| ITworld		Oct 28 06:55
schestowitz	Well, Swapnil's advice...	Oct 28 06:55
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6753486	Oct 28 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/27/1150219 "raise minimum pay for all employees"		Oct 28 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/27/1150219 )		Oct 28 06:59
schestowitz	Not bad...	Oct 28 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP Creates Open Source Network Operating System	Oct 28 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M9XtUuUdvg	Oct 28 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.business2community.com)	Oct 28 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j66	Oct 28 07:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.business2community.com \| HP Creates Open Source Network Operating System		Oct 28 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Karma: How Open Source changed my life.	Oct 28 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/E17dci7guo (www.evilsocket.net)	Oct 28 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j67	Oct 28 07:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.evilsocket.net \| NO TITLE		Oct 28 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dtH6WU52kR (www.theverge.com)	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j69	Oct 28 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone \| The Verge		Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source and business processes key to big	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	data analytics future https://t.co/gzoX55hxZS	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j6a	Oct 28 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source and business processes key to big data analytics future \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Antoine Jacoutot	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q7itMN00JE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j6b	Oct 28 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Antoine Jacoutot \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Karma: How Open Source changed my life.	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/r9rLS8Av8i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j6c	Oct 28 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Karma: How Open Source changed my life. \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/deN6Anzhzg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j72	Oct 28 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google steps up in the war against Android	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	bloatware https://t.co/X84T5HNI5i	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j73	Oct 28 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google steps up in the war against Android bloatware \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 Screencast and Screenshots	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jgcHpOtWlR	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxquestions.org)	Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j74	Oct 28 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org \| Ubuntu 15.10 Screencast and Screenshots		Oct 28 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Alien Isolation Looks Like On The	Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	Open-Source AMD Linux Driver	Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NZmEkKDDW0 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j7s	Oct 28 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| What Alien Isolation Looks Like On The Open-Source AMD Linux Driver - Phoronix		Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release,	Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	Several Bugs Were Fixed https://t.co/mf3CEsoegm	Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j7t	Oct 28 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several Bugs Were Fixed - Softpedia		Oct 28 07:28
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several...'		Oct 28 07:34
*TweetTuxMachines @SLHBENNETT followed @tuxmachines		Oct 28 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android Flagships In 2016: Samsung Galaxy	Oct 28 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	S7, LG G5, Xiaomi Mi 5 And More	Oct 28 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4AFiOZ1rjc (www.techtimes.com)	Oct 28 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j8g	Oct 28 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Best Android Flagships In 2016: Samsung Galaxy S7, LG G5, Xiaomi Mi 5 And More : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times		Oct 28 07:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753258	Oct 28 07:53
schestowitz	"	Oct 28 07:53
schestowitz	Skip the 6th step !	Oct 28 07:53
schestowitz	Try an owncloud Instance	Oct 28 07:53
schestowitz	PRISM exit	Oct 28 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu http://www.itworld.com/article/2997550/linux/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html		Oct 28 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| ITworld		Oct 28 07:53
schestowitz	[09:16] <cubexyz> is DrPizza Jason Perlow?	Oct 28 08:08
schestowitz	Perlow is a Microsoft employee now	Oct 28 08:08
schestowitz	He also writes for ZDNet	Oct 28 08:08
schestowitz	No conflict of interests ;-)	Oct 28 08:08
schestowitz	[09:24] <cubexyz> that's basically Microsoft marketing	Oct 28 08:08
schestowitz	Microsofting	Oct 28 08:08
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cubexyz	oh didn't realize Perlow worked for microsoft	Oct 28 08:19
-->amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-32-233.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights		Oct 28 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google steps up in the war against Android	Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	bloatware https://t.co/eUAkq6iGlU	Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com)	Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfq	Oct 28 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Google steps up in the war against Android bloatware - TechRepublic		Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Insurgency FPS Now Officially Available On	Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/ivSX0UW0Uz	Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 28 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfr	Oct 28 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Insurgency FPS Now Officially Available On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 28 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release,	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	Several Bugs Were Fixed https://t.co/IbtxdPujdJ	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfy	Oct 28 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several Bugs Were Fixed \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Iconic Linux debate sparks an open source	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	career https://t.co/FA5YLIXTzN	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfz	Oct 28 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Iconic Linux debate sparks an open source career \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OyfZpArHhS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jg0	Oct 28 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GParted 0.24.0 Partition Editor Software	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	Arrives with Support for ZFS Filesystems	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z6xgK2BYB3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jg1	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7	Oct 28 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GParted 0.24.0 Partition Editor Software Arrives with Support for ZFS Filesystems \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DJfOPT7lNp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jg3	Oct 28 08:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several...'		Oct 28 08:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GParted 0.24.0 Partition Editor Software Arrives with Support...'		Oct 28 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7 \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 08:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered...'		Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Iconic Linux debate sparks an open source	Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	career https://t.co/guC7cGz27W (opensource.com)	Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jlg	Oct 28 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Cesar Brod: My Linux Story \| Opensource.com		Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager	Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e373CAacct (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jlh	Oct 28 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager - My Linux Rig		Oct 28 09:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered	Oct 28 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7	Oct 28 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQSFE1Timk (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jmd	Oct 28 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7 - Softpedia		Oct 28 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SUSE: Rolling Awesome of the Day	Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MlVIhSOv2J (news.opensuse.org)	Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jme	Oct 28 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org \| openSUSE News		Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RaspEX Linux Distro Brings Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily	Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	Werewolf) to Raspberry Pi 2	Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/t8lDSOe69W (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jmf	Oct 28 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| RaspEX Linux Distro Brings Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Oct 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BDTgHzj5jV	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterpriseirregulars.com) ...	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SvpoRmJTDQ (joindiaspora.com)	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jnk	Oct 28 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterpriseirregulars.com \| Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value - Enterprise Irregulars		Oct 28 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://joindiaspora.com/p/6754011 )		Oct 28 09:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT https://t.co/BDTgHzj5jV...'		Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BDTgHzj5jV	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterpriseirregulars.com)	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jnl	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tracking hamster activity with a Raspberry Pi	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jTvXBoUyAr (opensource.com)	Oct 28 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jnp	Oct 28 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Tracking hamster activity with a Raspberry Pi \| Opensource.com		Oct 28 09:58
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/dun-dun-dun-fossforce-microsoft-ad.png	Oct 28 10:03
cubexyz	sure, I want the most gummed up locked down computer ever :-P	Oct 28 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next weekend "opening of the merge window for	Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.4." https://t.co/2O0eTUxTWL	Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jol	Oct 28 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Looking Forward To The Linux 4.4 Merge Window Next Week - Phoronix		Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau	Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	and Radeon Graphics Drivers	Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vMIyuqj8Ja (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jom	Oct 28 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau and Radeon Graphics Drivers - Softpedia		Oct 28 10:07
*TweetTuxMachines @javiermarti favourited 'Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value...'		Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On: Adding UEFI boot to Tanglu Linux 4.0	Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	Alpha https://t.co/NJ84oLzAiS	Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jpz	Oct 28 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hands-On: Adding UEFI boot to Tanglu Linux 4.0 Alpha \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiaomi preps Linux laptops for the post	Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	Christmas sales rush https://t.co/sVxC3ecmWL	Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jq0	Oct 28 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xiaomi preps Linux laptops for the post Christmas sales rush \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 10:18
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6754200	Oct 28 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sepp "there was [secret] agreement in place for the 2018 World Cup" http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sepp-blatter-admits-fifa-planned-6721611 like #battistelli & #MSFT http://techrights.org/2015/10/02/epo-and-microsoft/		Oct 28 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mirror.co.uk \| Sepp Blatter admits FIFA planned to award Russia the 2018 World Cup before vote even took place - Mirror Online		Oct 28 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft’s Secret Special Relationship With EPO Illustrates Serious Corruption at Microsoft and the EPO \| Techrights		Oct 28 10:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/sham-windows-security-message.png	Oct 28 10:51
cubexyz	noooo... don't	Oct 28 10:51
cubexyz	crash my data :)	Oct 28 10:51
cubexyz	I hate it when my data crashes	Oct 28 10:52
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/sham-windows-message-better-view.png	Oct 28 10:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and	Oct 28 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	Available to Download https://t.co/GXHLK4DEps	Oct 28 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k05	Oct 28 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and Available to Download \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	and Radeon Graphics Drivers	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OxwMMO0IlJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0b	Oct 28 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau and Radeon Graphics Drivers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack Foundation https://t.co/Wd2d4McUBh	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source would not have prevented VW	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	problems https://t.co/Sqa8oQodi5	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0d	Oct 28 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source would not have prevented VW problems \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lxGOPUUawe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0e	Oct 28 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Veeam announces Backup for Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/os4a2ljPRL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0f	Oct 28 11:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659404417981108224	Oct 28 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz thanks! Will RT shortly. Just RT'd the EPO secret deals story		Oct 28 12:23
schestowitz	you have changed your tune recently, for the better....	Oct 28 12:23
schestowitz	The big money, a patent lawyer recently told me, is in helping large corporations. But history remember those who fight the good fight.	Oct 28 12:24
schestowitz	*remembers	Oct 28 12:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753486	Oct 28 12:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753817	Oct 28 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 28 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 28 12:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659406381850710016	Oct 28 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Thanks. I never liked software patents. I thought some companies had strong ones but couldn't ignore outcome of all those suits		Oct 28 12:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659406774596931584	Oct 28 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I actually believe the big money is in very successful apps :-) and it's far more fun to make real products		Oct 28 12:31
schestowitz	IIRC, you're back to doing some development. It helps one appreciate how just unnecessary #swpats are	Oct 28 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5LTACjuNha (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kaa	Oct 28 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Serving the Underserved with Open Source Mobile	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	Infrastructure https://t.co/2VGCoqJWVD	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kab	Oct 28 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Serving the Underserved with Open Source Mobile Infrastructure \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DHqcbn9CIA	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kac	Oct 28 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6751187	Oct 28 12:53
schestowitz	"SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS"	Oct 28 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BlackBerry $699 #Android gambit is too much too late http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/9614604/priv-android-phone-hardware-future-of-blackberry should have moves to #linux 5+ years ago		Oct 28 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theverge.com \| BlackBerry’s $699 Android gambit is too much too late \| The Verge		Oct 28 12:53
schestowitz	So the government can track, listen and watch you while you can make phonecalls and send text message with tiny buttons.	Oct 28 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DHqcbn9CIA	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7keu	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops,	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	Integration Has Started https://t.co/fJE0P2wshI	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7key	Oct 28 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops, Integration Has Started \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	leaders https://t.co/wy8PoV69hI	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kf2	Oct 28 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud leaders \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/LcROueODxb	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kf3	Oct 28 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 15.10	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	'Wily Werewolf' https://t.co/bhvKRNeqAa	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kf4	Oct 28 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 15.10 'Wily Werewolf' \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 13:23
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/forced-upgrades-article.pdf	Oct 28 13:32
cubexyz	I think the forced upgrades by Microsoft should drive people away from windows	Oct 28 13:38
cubexyz	I just can't believe people will tolerate that	Oct 28 13:38
cubexyz	the downloads and bandwidth requirements just get bigger and bigger	Oct 28 13:39
cubexyz	it's untenable	Oct 28 13:40
cubexyz	this really goes beyond just not getting source code... the windows system is just inferior by a big margin	Oct 28 13:41
MinceR	people's wills have grown very weak	Oct 28 13:41
MinceR	they tolerate and sometimes even praise the abuse they receive from m$, crApple and redcrap	Oct 28 13:41
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cubexyz	I blame the media too	Oct 28 13:45
cubexyz	all people ever see is ads for microsoft products, they permeate the internet, retail stores, even the news programs on tv	Oct 28 13:46
cubexyz	schools teach microsoft mostly	Oct 28 13:46
cubexyz	the Universities should know better	Oct 28 13:47
cubexyz	at least I hope so	Oct 28 13:47
schestowitz	lobbying and bribes	Oct 28 13:48
schestowitz	they have more power, but people don't like to talk in criminal terms	Oct 28 13:48
schestowitz	they're rather pretend it's about merit and stuff	Oct 28 13:49
schestowitz	not financial incentive and toxic influence, fear of boss etc.	Oct 28 13:49
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cubexyz	scientists seem to know better	Oct 28 13:52
cubexyz	at least some of them	Oct 28 13:52
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/reuse-computers.txt	Oct 28 13:55
cubexyz	eused is selling linux computers cheap	Oct 28 13:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SOLVED - VirtualBox Is Not Installing In Ubuntu	Oct 28 14:15
TweetTuxMachines	15.10 Due To Missing Dependency "Libvpx1"	Oct 28 14:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/40H3MfkZfk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 14:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kp9	Oct 28 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SOLVED - VirtualBox Is Not Installing In Ubuntu 15.10 Due To Missing Dependency "Libvpx1" \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 14:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/LcROueODxb	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kjk	Oct 28 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and	Oct 28 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	Available to Download https://t.co/Es3fXH6Ein	Oct 28 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Oct 28 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kqu	Oct 28 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mO2rZhX8h5 (www.itweb.co.za)	Oct 28 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za \| Veeam announces Backup for Linux \| ITWeb		Oct 28 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7krd	Oct 28 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India	Oct 28 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WXPoXT0K4b (www.linuxveda.com)	Oct 28 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7krz	Oct 28 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India \| Linux Veda		Oct 28 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Get the Major OTA-8 Update in	Oct 28 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Two Weeks, Feature Freeze in Effect	Oct 28 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5Jwm90LW5h (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ksk	Oct 28 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch to Get the Major OTA-8 Update in Two Weeks, Feature Freeze in Effect - Softpedia		Oct 28 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud	Oct 28 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	[sic] leaders https://t.co/xIuwyZ2B2j	Oct 28 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Oct 28 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ksz	Oct 28 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud leaders \| ZDNet		Oct 28 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops,	Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	Integration Has Started https://t.co/3XD9JsfGW2	Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ktt	Oct 28 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops, Integration Has Started - Softpedia		Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India	Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y8yv7y7mwY	Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.thehindubusinessline.com)	Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kud	Oct 28 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com \| Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India \| Business Line		Oct 28 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "around three-quarters of businesses use Linux	Oct 28 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	as a primary cloud platform"	Oct 28 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4e7u0s5aqS (www.cloudpro.co.uk)	Oct 28 14:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V8q7jRbnL4	Oct 28 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk \| Veeam releases free back up tool for enterprise Linux servers \| Cloud Pro		Oct 28 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| Veeam cleans up dirty backup worries on Linux - Open Source Insider		Oct 28 14:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/659442640291803136	Oct 28 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@haniefhaider: Is this Mark Shuttleworth company?<<@schestowitz: Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India https://t.co/OR5qPzZyfa #ubuntu #linux #india"		Oct 28 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Oct 28 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kw5	Oct 28 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines College partners with Dell and Red Hat --	Oct 28 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	embraces open source and Linux solutions	Oct 28 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Erjq1uuBBD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| College partners with Dell and Red Hat -- embraces open source and Linux solutions \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kwd	Oct 28 15:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/Jcen8KMtie	Oct 28 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kx3	Oct 28 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tor: a landmark for hidden services	Oct 28 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PSGzfiUUOj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxc	Oct 28 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tor: a landmark for hidden services \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet	Oct 28 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PIIsOd6i9k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxj	Oct 28 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google, HP, Huawei Support of OpenStack	Oct 28 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/to4U59xZSZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxt	Oct 28 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google, HP, Huawei Support of OpenStack \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/droosien/status/659450234808967168	Oct 28 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@droosien: True https://t.co/XpFcFwC3mB		Oct 28 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: .@droosien @Snowden The perfect #nsa mascot is already 'taken', and it's not a hoax https://t.co/bPaY3Bu7S2		Oct 28 15:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659450278987608064	Oct 28 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Patent attorney cracks joke on LinkedIn re. EPO preferred applicants policy. Has a point. @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/uxInGYENmu		Oct 28 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Patent attorney cracks joke on LinkedIn re. EPO preferred applicants policy. Has a point. @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/uxInGYENmu		Oct 28 15:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines College partners with Dell and Red Hat --	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	embraces open source and Linux solutions	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GymFYjmLft (betanews.com)	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l4y	Oct 28 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| College partners with Dell and Red Hat -- embraces open source and Linux solutions		Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Old iMac Ubuntu Studio Installation	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XYkGBPG0ya (freedompenguin.com)	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	"getting more life out of the old Mac."	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l4z	Oct 28 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com \| Old iMac Ubuntu Studio Installation - Freedom Penguin		Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mTOnp7do0s (www.linux.com)	Oct 28 15:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l52	Oct 28 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet \| Linux.com		Oct 28 15:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459214331392000	Oct 28 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AltLegalHQ @schestowitz @FOSSpatents Appeals court: Google Books 'fair use' (FOR SNIPPETS) standard helps Oracle in Android-Java case vs.G.		Oct 28 16:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AltLegalHQ/status/659459395118604288	Oct 28 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AltLegalHQ: @schestowitz thanks for the RT!		Oct 28 16:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459591009210368	Oct 28 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @lmbrownlee1 App. court: Google Books 'fair use' (FOR SNIPPETS) standard helps Oracle in Android-Java case vs. G. @AltLegalHQ @schestowitz		Oct 28 16:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459853857878017	Oct 28 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Only "Tax Fraud"...? https://t.co/2rX3gYSdHp		Oct 28 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The IRS Has Stingrays … But We Knew Stingrays Have Been Used to Chase Tax Fraud https://t.co/2llRkqJt8i #stingray #irs		Oct 28 16:02
schestowitz	They start as tax cheats and next thing you know.... THEY JOIN ISIS!	Oct 28 16:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/morvjn/status/659457177996914688	Oct 28 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@morvjn: @schestowitz Always remember: Goverment has unlimited ressources to destroy targets, unlike companies...		Oct 28 16:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659460651228643328	Oct 28 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Was wondering about IRS use in mere COLLECTION, as contrasted with T.F. crimes, per se.		Oct 28 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMandriva Forums https://t.co/hFQuXHkLVq	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com)	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lav	Oct 28 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com \| Mandriva Linux Chronicles: OpenMandriva Forums		Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Reportedly Planning Big Driver Update For	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	November https://t.co/pCWuPfNZkC	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7law	Oct 28 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| AMD Reportedly Planning Big Driver Update For November - Phoronix		Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Benchmarks Of NWI's Insurgency FPS Game	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	On Linux https://t.co/g1OiOy2vvI	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lax	Oct 28 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA Benchmarks Of NWI's Insurgency FPS Game On Linux - Phoronix		Oct 28 16:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	Gigantic New Android Tablet	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FeGAh055I8 (time.com)	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf6	Oct 28 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Samsung's New Galaxy View Tablet Wants To Replace Your TV		Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8bGXTxIVWB (www.blacklablinux.org)	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf7	Oct 28 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org \| Black Lab Linux: Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released		Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gImageReader 3.1.2 Brings Fixes And Updates	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/K2lyWqssBx (linuxg.net)	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf8	Oct 28 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| gImageReader 3.1.2 Brings Fixes And Updates \| LinuxG.net		Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	Gigantic New Android Tablet	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LqdkLKOSZ0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This Gigantic New Android Tablet \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux cousins Part 2: Reviewing ReactOS, the	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source version of Windows	Oct 28 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z7GO4bGgeX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux cousins Part 2: Reviewing ReactOS, the Open Source version of Windows \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 5.1 in final development stage	Oct 28 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/C45F4c63IP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 5.1 in final development stage \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alien Isolation, Insurgency, and Missing	Oct 28 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS Icons https://t.co/larNbyMtes	Oct 28 16:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659469290530304000	Oct 28 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz @glynmoody I think we know who the Master is, but Who is the Doctor?		Oct 28 16:39
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/genesis-of-epo-microsoft-ties/	Oct 28 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO’s Jeremy Philpott Confirms That Discriminatory (Software) Patent Processing Practices Started With Microsoft, Because of Microsoft \| Techrights		Oct 28 16:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released	Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JSgmlyKNf8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rackspace serves up free Carina Docker-based	Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	container-as-a-service beta on OpenStack	Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/opvR1oR2PU (www.zdnet.com)	Oct 28 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Rackspace serves up free Carina Docker-based container-as-a-service beta on OpenStack \| ZDNet		Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Batman: Arkham Knight Delayed For Linux Until	Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	Next Spring https://t.co/NEgPuR5TCz	Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) requires proprietary OS	Oct 28 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	then...	Oct 28 17:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I’ve made the iPhone 6s into my dream Android	Oct 28 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	phone https://t.co/a3VZEAs61K (bgr.com)	Oct 28 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| iPhone 6s Google apps: Android no longer needed \| BGR		Oct 28 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora summer 2016 internships.	Oct 28 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n3e2eWSQ0P (paul.frields.org)	Oct 28 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org \| Fedora summer 2016 internships. - The Grand Fallacy		Oct 28 17:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/bCVALvOous	Oct 28 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/9ozWrYJ8Lt	Oct 28 17:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice and Government	Oct 28 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HmCe0BZBv6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice and Government \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/YKG64R6dtt	Oct 28 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/JwsfV9jSho	Oct 28 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:10
MinceR	http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/10/28/un-urges-japan-to-ban-sexual-images-of-children-in-manga-japanese-netizens-tell-un-to-shut-up/	Oct 28 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.rocketnews24.com \| UN urges Japan to ban sexual images of children in manga, Japanese netizens tell UN to shut up \| RocketNews24		Oct 28 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi's GNU/Linux Laptops	Oct 28 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	and OpenStack's Massive Expansion	Oct 28 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/33WxIRymvh (techrights.org)	Oct 28 19:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi's GNU/Linux Laptops and OpenStack's Massive...'		Oct 28 19:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the	Oct 28 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	NEW Ten Game Trinity 3 Bundle from Bundle Stars	Oct 28 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ixulT4TwCS (www.gamasutra.com)	Oct 28 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the NEW Ten Game Trinity 3 Bundle from Bundle Stars		Oct 28 19:29
*TweetTuxMachines @GameDevBRbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the...'		Oct 28 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4soBZ04AhZ	Oct 28 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/FDCinSlp0d	Oct 28 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Workstation update	Oct 28 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7k1ZTAWvV9 (blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 28 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init	Oct 28 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	Scripts https://t.co/7k1ZTAWvV9	Oct 28 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 28 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init	Oct 28 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	Scripts https://t.co/bDimXwXoHD	Oct 28 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init Scripts - Phoronix		Oct 28 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Subsurface 4.5(.1) Released	Oct 28 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gvDACgRwt8	Oct 28 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	(liveblue.wordpress.com)	Oct 28 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liveblue.wordpress.com \| Subsurface 4.5(.1) Released \| Live Blue		Oct 28 20:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GOG Have More Dungeons & Dragons Available On	Oct 28 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/YV8NOqfMSw	Oct 28 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 28 22:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@baseanswers ODF(tm) World News is out!	Oct 29 03:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aPAwJP0qBP (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 29 03:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @LOcommits @Schiggy69	Oct 29 03:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7nzu	Oct 29 03:35
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schestowitz	> "He has already arguably significantly changed the world... "	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	> x	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/11959711/bill-gates-turns-60-5-ways-he-wants-to-change-the-world.html	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Bill Gates turns 60: five ways he wants to change the world - Telegraph		Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	> ... albeit for the worse. He's made bad engineering acceptable. Now	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	> pushing zero-rating	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	Together with Zuckerberg	Oct 29 05:10
schestowitz	> "The subscription fee will give users unlimited, automatic cloud	Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	> storage of their all of their Solu data."	Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	> ...	Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	> "Solu runs on a Linux-based operating system called Solu OS."	Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	> http://yle.fi/uutiset/with_pocket-size_desktop_solu_aims_to_change_computing/8413937	Oct 29 05:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi \| With pocket-size desktop, Solu aims to change computing \| Yle Uutiset \| yle.fi		Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:21
schestowitz	> GNU also?	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> ==	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/mark-zuckerberg-in-india-defends-facebooks-plan-to-expand-internet-access/	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> zero-rating	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> ==	Oct 29 05:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/o7obf ]		Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> intro:	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> paper:	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf	Oct 29 05:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.invisiblethings.org \| Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)		Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	> not sure why it's PDF instead of xHTML	Oct 29 05:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659660685463396352	Oct 29 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Blogger @schestowitz says he's being threatened by the EPO but can't be more specific yet. https://t.co/lDtkkxjxjy		Oct 29 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents @glynmoody I can't say yet		Oct 29 05:24
schestowitz	> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11959016/Apple-reports-biggest-annual-profit-in-history.html	Oct 29 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Apple reports biggest annual profit in history with net income of $53.4bn - Telegraph		Oct 29 05:34
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 05:34
schestowitz	> overcharging by that much	Oct 29 05:34
schestowitz	And putting the money abroad, to dodge tax.	Oct 29 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sharing Work Is Easier With An Open Document	Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	Format https://t.co/DwfjcrIw0p	Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7of5	Oct 29 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sharing Work Is Easier With An Open Document Format \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kirin brews OpenStack private cloud to reduce	Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	IT operation costs by 75 percent	Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b0sGgkkG1H (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7of6	Oct 29 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kirin brews OpenStack private cloud to reduce IT operation costs by 75 percent \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 05:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/659668780855988224	Oct 29 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Oct 29 05:58
schestowitz	"Just so we're clear, it's called the "Ellison effect". Shill marketers with sleazy tactics selling proprietary tech. "	Oct 29 05:58
schestowitz	Tweet deleted now	Oct 29 05:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659669763426287616	Oct 29 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz a very important fight! wish you best of success. @glynmoody		Oct 29 05:59
schestowitz	re EPO	Oct 29 05:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/659670300435451904	Oct 29 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainiarc7: And Lo, and behold, another backdoor is unveiled. https://t.co/HBGjx1igVX		Oct 29 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cisco a back doors company https://t.co/6xxwf6g9F7		Oct 29 05:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SoluMachines/status/659671212277301248	Oct 29 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SoluMachines: @schestowitz we haven't made any decision on whether to open source Solu's full OS. Obviously kernel tweaks will be pushed upstream.		Oct 29 06:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659672172374441984	Oct 29 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz you must, I believe.		Oct 29 06:06
schestowitz	I am, but it's expensive	Oct 29 06:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659672986006511616	Oct 29 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz expensive what? The possible lawsuit?		Oct 29 06:08
schestowitz	Lawyer fees	Oct 29 06:08
schestowitz	I will publish the details next month, patience needed here	Oct 29 06:09
cubexyz	Don't trust Gates the Extractor, that's my advice	Oct 29 06:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659673656637943809	Oct 29 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz great. @FOSSpatents you may like to know it too. Dr. Roy will release the documents next month.		Oct 29 06:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6756917	Oct 29 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Email #Encryption Is Broken http://motherboard.vice.com/read/email-encryption-is-broken there are alternative methods for comms		Oct 29 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Email Encryption Is Broken \| Motherboard		Oct 29 06:13
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 06:13
schestowitz	Mailservers can be configured to deny mail intake without TLS. They can also be configured to deny delivery to servers without TLS.	Oct 29 06:13
schestowitz	Mailclients can be configured to deny communication without TLS.	Oct 29 06:13
schestowitz	As is the case with Email end-to-end encryption: People need to do something for themselves and should not perpetually rely on others to solve their (privacy) issues.	Oct 29 06:13
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: joshua stein	Oct 29 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/22tOkB4bsc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ojs	Oct 29 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: joshua stein \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and	Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth	Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fMHLk8GSd9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ojt	Oct 29 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 5.1 to Start Twice as Fast, Has MS	Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	Office 2016 Interoperability	Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ANWHBySsUe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oju	Oct 29 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 5.1 to Start Twice as Fast, Has MS Office 2016 Interoperability \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle striving to become #1 Linux vendor	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AuZz0NTQde (siliconangle.com)	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7okd	Oct 29 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com \| Oracle striving to become #1 Linux vendor \| #oow15 \| SiliconANGLE		Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 1-Net Is Canonical's First Ubuntu Certified	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	Public Cloud Partner in South East Asia	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pGGuijJ7k6 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oke	Oct 29 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| 1-Net Is Canonical's First Ubuntu Certified Public Cloud Partner in South East Asia - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 Will Be an LTS Release	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Rlk7xXeFC (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7okf	Oct 29 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 Will Be an LTS Release - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.10.92 LTS Is a Small Release,	Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	Adds M68k and SPARC Fixes	Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qVGVarcytt (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a	Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus	Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/18x9xxr7fV (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in	Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	high-end disguise https://t.co/IZlopsvdgM	Oct 29 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 29 06:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in high-end disguise \| The Verge		Oct 29 06:24
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6757120	Oct 29 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #softpedia looks at the latest of #gnome & #gtk http://news.softpedia.com/news/gtk-plus-prepares-for-gnome-3-20-adds-new-apis-and-wayland-fixes-more-495464.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-evolution-groupware-client-now-uses-oauth2-for-google-sources-495461.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-photos-3-20-enters-development-fixes-many-annoying-issues-495459.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/g		Oct 29 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GTK+ Prepares for GNOME 3.20, Adds New APIs and Wayland Fixes, More - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME's Evolution Groupware Client Now Uses OAuth2 for Google Sources - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Photos 3.20 Enters Development, Fixes Many Annoying Issues - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Logs Open-Source Log Viewer for the systemd Journal Has a New Maintainer - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6756954	Oct 29 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Lego Tells Political Artist To Hit The Bricks, Refusing To Sell Him Legos https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151026/06581732635/lego-tells-political-artist-to-hit-bricks-refusing-to-sell-him-legos.shtml always been a ruthless, PR-centric company		Oct 29 06:36
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msb_	cubexyz: Did you see this? http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf	Oct 29 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.invisiblethings.org \| Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)		Oct 29 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Z2qtzlnMjj (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth - Softpedia		Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The State Of Fedora Workstation 23, Looking	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead To Fedora 24 https://t.co/vT5DMoYBL4	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 29 06:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines softpedia looks at the latest of gnome & gtk	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hwKpEbety3 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wa3xbnxW0k (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/neDSfucxMI (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ngfIROGMEF (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 06:42
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cubexyz	that's why it's so important to have BIOS source code	Oct 29 06:51
cubexyz	as I stated before, the current situation is rather poor	Oct 29 06:51
cubexyz	AMI won't upgrade orphaned BIOS without tons of $$$	Oct 29 06:52
cubexyz	keep some older computers around is my advice...	Oct 29 06:52
cubexyz	older computers == no SMM, no DASH, and even BIOS source code in some cases	Oct 29 06:53
cubexyz	if the BIOS is backdoored from the factory you have no chance at all	Oct 29 06:54
cubexyz	you'd have to run coreboot or reverse engineer the BIOS, which can be very difficult and take years of work	Oct 29 06:54
cubexyz	probably why the nukes still use PDP-11, it's the only thing they trust	Oct 29 06:58
cubexyz	if intel backdoors the CPU it's game over	Oct 29 06:58
cubexyz	also the idea that coreboot always runs the FSP before the BIOS is incorrect	Oct 29 07:09
cubexyz	on older motherboards don't have FSP	Oct 29 07:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Short SMARC COM runs Linux on Bay Trail over	Oct 29 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	wide temps https://t.co/0V9x90vu6R	Oct 29 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 29 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Short SMARC COM runs Linux on Bay Trail over wide temps · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 29 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in	Oct 29 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	high-end disguise https://t.co/Wh1wdL8bho	Oct 29 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in high-end disguise \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 07:11
cubexyz	the Intel Firmware Support Package is a relatively new thing	Oct 29 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The new era of community	Oct 29 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/X5frBOUnBI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The new era of community \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 07:12
msb_	Checksums the BIOS?	Oct 29 07:13
cubexyz	also the FSP is optional	Oct 29 07:14
cubexyz	you can get non-FSP motheboards	Oct 29 07:14
cubexyz	the trick of course is to know what you're buying	Oct 29 07:14
cubexyz	award bios from 1999 has no mention of FSP, so that's in the clear	Oct 29 07:15
cubexyz	I don't remember checksum, do a byte-by-byte comparison of your BIOS with a known BIOS image or even better, generate the BIOS yourself from source code	Oct 29 07:16
cubexyz	that PDF article doesn't consider older technology	Oct 29 07:24
cubexyz	they make the assumption that everyone always upgrades to latest and greatest, which is not true	Oct 29 07:25
cubexyz	older motherboards do NOT have the Intel Management Engine	Oct 29 07:27
cubexyz	anything old enough to be passively cooled for example	Oct 29 07:28
cubexyz	doesn't need the thermal stuff	Oct 29 07:28
cubexyz	we have a crap situation though regarding heat which always astounds me	Oct 29 07:30
cubexyz	basically the OEMs are selling overheating hardware	Oct 29 07:30
cubexyz	it's basically designed to fail	Oct 29 07:31
cubexyz	all the older P4's failed... all of them	Oct 29 07:31
cubexyz	but the older P3's survived mostly	Oct 29 07:31
cubexyz	and of course, even older stuff survives, assuming one takes good care of the equipment and uses a UPS	Oct 29 07:32
cubexyz	some of the BSODs on windows were really due to heat damage on the motherboard	Oct 29 07:32
cubexyz	very old stuff like PDP-11s and PDP-10s could overheat too... the power supplies radiated a LOT of heat	Oct 29 07:33
cubexyz	I can list a number of P3 computers that didn't overheat:	Oct 29 07:33
cubexyz	Tyan servers I built myself did not overheat... even running 100% cpu for weeks	Oct 29 07:34
cubexyz	the IBM PC 300GL, never overheated... which is why you still see the odd one today	Oct 29 07:35
cubexyz	P3 400 mhz with no fan... just a big heat sink	Oct 29 07:35
cubexyz	of course Eququests with low powered 486 CPUs didn't overheat, but they would fail in other ways... the caps in the monitor would fail	Oct 29 07:36
cubexyz	5V Pentiums got pretty hot, didn't see many of those survive the test of time	Oct 29 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a	Oct 29 07:41
TweetTuxMachines	Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus	Oct 29 07:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xGs4L562e (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 07:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 07:41
cubexyz	personally I think the systems engineering is pretty crap nowadays	Oct 29 07:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/QU97Owpwk4	Oct 29 07:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 07:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tumbleweed Rolling Along, Leap Release Imminent	Oct 29 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qoQckFx1fA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 07:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tumbleweed Rolling Along, Leap Release Imminent \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Ubuntu is different from Debian	Oct 29 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/j6WuKCWrXi (www.unixmen.com)	Oct 29 07:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com \| How Ubuntu is different from Debian \| Unixmen		Oct 29 07:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/659705568387559424	Oct 29 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz And will be more different, over time. Mark will do something to distance from the distro and that init system by RH.		Oct 29 08:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/659715798219546624	Oct 29 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz It seems most orgs dislike when a public figure condemns them, they always try to nullify the threat to the status quo.		Oct 29 09:02
cubexyz	stuff like rowhammer only works because DRAM cells have gotten so small	Oct 29 09:08
cubexyz	again, this doesn't happen on older tech	Oct 29 09:09
msb_	Probably not many people have older computers laying around, because they bought a new one when the older one stopped working.	Oct 29 09:19
cubexyz	assuming no heat damage it's power supplies and capacitors that fail most often	Oct 29 09:21
cubexyz	of course hard drives will probably fail	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/659720632997953536	Oct 29 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz "Terrorists" like Belgacom, Merkel, The UN, etc		Oct 29 09:22
cubexyz	but I'd say it's the software obsolescence that plays a factor also	Oct 29 09:23
msb_	You have my phone number. Please give me a call when you learn that the missiles are going to fly, so I can duck and cover.	Oct 29 09:23
cubexyz	new operating comes out... runs like a turd on old computer, old computer gets put in closet or out to the curb	Oct 29 09:24
cubexyz	I'm more like Ralph Nader than William Blum :)	Oct 29 09:27
cubexyz	I'm advocating computers and operating systems that last a long time	Oct 29 09:28
cubexyz	what could the average dude do if the missiles were really launched?	Oct 29 09:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757429	Oct 29 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "effects of art censorship or unjustified restrictions of the right to freedom of artistic expression and creativity" http://freemuse.org/archives/11301		Oct 29 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freemuse.org \| Zimbabwe: Censorship board should be abolished, says workshop group \| Freemuse		Oct 29 09:31
schestowitz	[13:27] <cubexyz> I'm more like Ralph Nader than William Blum :)	Oct 29 09:31
schestowitz	Did Blum write anything about MSFT?	Oct 29 09:31
schestowitz	I know Nader did	Oct 29 09:31
schestowitz	ages ago	Oct 29 09:31
msb_	RUK: Yes, the old ones. ... It became necessary to destroy them.	Oct 29 09:32
cubexyz	schestowitz, only obiquely, I would say	Oct 29 09:32
cubexyz	and strictly in a political context	Oct 29 09:33
cubexyz	e.g. Blum wrote about Microsoft banning Cuba from using their instant messaging network	Oct 29 09:34
msb_	RUK: That was the equation! (grabs Kirk by the neck) Existence! Survival! Must cancel out programming!	Oct 29 09:34
cubexyz	great lines :)	Oct 29 09:35
cubexyz	"You came from the outside. You bring disorder here."	Oct 29 09:35
msb_	If only people realized that their existence was being threatened, they might drop their programming.	Oct 29 09:36
cubexyz	each generation has to figure it out for themselves	Oct 29 09:36
msb_	That's my favorite line from all of Star Trek. If only Ruk had dropped Kirk into the abyss, things would have been so much better. Kirk destr0yed every happy culture he encountered.	Oct 29 09:40
cubexyz	Nader was pretty savvy, he knew about Xerox	Oct 29 09:41
cubexyz	https://mondediplo.com/1997/11/nader	Oct 29 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mondediplo.com \| What to do about Microsoft? - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition		Oct 29 09:42
msb_	Even that immortal guy, who was Brahms and various other geniuses. He finally succeeded in building an android woman companion for himself who was as smart as he was. So Kirk "fell in love" with her and shorted her out.	Oct 29 09:44
msb_	Kirk -- whose name of course means "church" -- ruined everything.	Oct 29 09:44
cubexyz	it's implied in the title Flint was also Methuselah	Oct 29 09:46
msb_	Excellent movie _The Man from Earth_ (2007), written by Jerome Bixby, who wrote for Star Trek. Also deals with immortality. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/combined	Oct 29 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Man from Earth (2007)		Oct 29 09:51
msb_	Highly recommended!	Oct 29 09:53
cubexyz	back in 1997 Nader was worried that Microsoft would drive Netscape out of the market and maybe even monopolize the internet itself	Oct 29 09:55
cubexyz	the doomsday scenario whereby Microsoft takes over all computing didn't happen	Oct 29 09:56
cubexyz	http://nader.org	Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nader.org \| Ralph Nader - consumer advocate, lawyer, and author		Oct 29 09:59
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cubexyz	also this pdf file may be of interest:	Oct 29 10:22
cubexyz	http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/major/mtc-00028313.pdf	Oct 29 10:22
cubexyz	as I said, Nader is savvy...	Oct 29 10:29
cubexyz	he actually does use Linux	Oct 29 10:29
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msb_	The deepest and most accurate political reporting can now be found on Russia Today, e.g., https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/319922-syria-civil-war-regime/ An excerpt: http://pastebin.com/4peaAbHe	Oct 29 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| Syrian turning point? RT — CrossTalk		Oct 29 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebin.com \| RT: Syria Civil War - Pastebin.com		Oct 29 11:02
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MinceR	Fair and Balanced(tm)	Oct 29 11:07
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msb_	Let's hope that the doomsday scenario whereby the US government takes over the Internet by means of systemd and Microsoft, doesn't happen.	Oct 29 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/ODtloetm6e	Oct 29 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:19
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cubexyz	the internet itself isn't in jeopardy	Oct 29 11:40
MinceR	only its usefulness :>	Oct 29 11:40
cubexyz	TCP/IP is an open protocol, and it hasn't really changed much in the last 30 years	Oct 29 11:40
cubexyz	for the internet to be in danger TCP/IP itself would have to be supplanted	Oct 29 11:40
cubexyz	if you start seeing MSTCP/IP then start worrying :)	Oct 29 11:41
cubexyz	I'm more worried about BIOS lock-in	Oct 29 11:42
cubexyz	Microsoft did try to herd people to MSN but it wasn't very successful	Oct 29 11:43
MinceR	open TCP/IP won't help you if the gateways won't forward your messages to the hosts you're targeting	Oct 29 11:47
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/yet-another-happy-microsoftie.txt	Oct 29 12:34
cubexyz	I say again truth is stranger than fiction :)	Oct 29 12:35
MinceR	:)	Oct 29 12:36
MinceR	try to explain to a m$ fanboy how this is bad...	Oct 29 12:37
cubexyz	the only real fans are stockholders I'd say	Oct 29 12:39
MinceR	i'll ask them next time it comes up	Oct 29 12:42
msb_	If systemd were used to kill all the Linux machines that run the Net, that would kill the Net.	Oct 29 12:50
cubexyz	I can say that's very unlikely	Oct 29 12:53
cubexyz	my ISP is strictly FreeBSD based	Oct 29 12:53
msb_	What about the big fiber trunk lines?	Oct 29 12:54
msb_	Also the US controls the domain root servers.	Oct 29 12:55
cubexyz	I know this much.... Rogers Cable uses the Titan Supercomputer, which runs on Cray Linux	Oct 29 12:58
msb_	Scenario: US govt losing world control, wants to reassert (see that pastebin I linked to 2 hours ago) so it blows off an A-bomb inside the US and blames Russia. Cuts off all Internet news sites except US corporate ones, so nobody can say it was a false-flag (like 9/11).	Oct 29 12:58
cubexyz	they run a lot of the cable internet in Canada	Oct 29 12:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/659732049675292672	Oct 29 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz @Snowden and #ignorant #Americans believe anything the Govt tells them. no wonder we have #obama		Oct 29 13:02
cubexyz	they actually did detonate an atomic bomb in Yucca Flat Nevada	Oct 29 13:02
cubexyz	over 100 times	Oct 29 13:02
MinceR	so, what happened to cray's love affair with m$?	Oct 29 13:04
cubexyz	almost all the supercomputers run Linux nowadays	Oct 29 13:05
cubexyz	some of the Cray systems use Compute Node Linux (CNL)	Oct 29 13:05
cubexyz	maybe even most of them	Oct 29 13:06
cubexyz	old Cray's used UNICOS which was a Unix SysV	Oct 29 13:07
cubexyz	you may be thinking of Cray CX1	Oct 29 13:08
cubexyz	but even the CX1 could RHEL	Oct 29 13:08
cubexyz	as well as Windows HPC server 2008	Oct 29 13:08
cubexyz	could run RHEL	Oct 29 13:09
msb_	Yes, I know about Nevada. But if they did it in a small American city and said the Russians did it, it would be a great excuse to start a war with Russia. Even if the long lines stay up, killing the Linux and windows computers connected to the Net, and sabotaging the root servers would pretty much do it.	Oct 29 13:10
msb_	Or they could blame it on Al-qaeda or ISIL.	Oct 29 13:11
msb_	It would be a big escalation of evil, but so was 911.	Oct 29 13:12
cubexyz	MinceR, I believe there's only one windows computer in the Top 500 supercomputers	Oct 29 13:13
cubexyz	there's 488 Linux, 10 Unix, 1 Mixed, and 1 Windows	Oct 29 13:13
cubexyz	so anyone running Titan is most likely running Linux :)	Oct 29 13:13
cubexyz	msb_, it's hard to imagine the United States nuking itself	Oct 29 13:15
cubexyz	an accident maybe, but on purpose?	Oct 29 13:15
msb_	How about the US blowing up the World Trade Center?	Oct 29 13:15
msb_	On purpose but blaming on an "enemy" to justify a war or police state.	Oct 29 13:16
cubexyz	nukes are a deterrent	Oct 29 13:18
cubexyz	I think they stopped testing them in 1992	Oct 29 13:19
MinceR	afaik they never stopped underground testing	Oct 29 13:19
cubexyz	yes, to avoid fallout	Oct 29 13:20
cubexyz	there's a Limited Test Ban Treaty since 1963	Oct 29 13:22
cubexyz	but in 1996 there was the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty which pledged to discontinue all nuclear weapons testing	Oct 29 13:23
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Test_Ban_Treaty	Oct 29 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Oct 29 13:24
cubexyz	hmmm, 8 states are non-ratified	Oct 29 13:25
cubexyz	pesky North Korea again	Oct 29 13:25
cubexyz	no one wants nukes though	Oct 29 13:28
cubexyz	messes up a lot of things, gives people cancer...	Oct 29 13:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/659785897815207936	Oct 29 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: RT @schestowitz: Canonical Has Snappy Ubuntu Core Win with Open Networking Vendors https://t.co/385tRLIZ5O #canonical #ubuntu #linux		Oct 29 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thevarguy.com \| Canonical Has Snappy Ubuntu Core Win with Open Networking Vendors \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 29 13:37
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schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6758410	Oct 29 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #natwest is grossly understaffed having replaced human workers with machines; human workers don't dress formal; wear ADVERTS instead now!		Oct 29 13:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 13:40
schestowitz	humans still want jobs	Oct 29 13:40
schestowitz	twenty fifteen	Oct 29 13:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 13:40
schestowitz	Indeed, we're told otherwise...	Oct 29 13:40
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abeNd-org	heh, tell that to most people on welfare, they quite enjoy not working & sucking up my hard earned money to buy spinner rims & crack	Oct 29 13:49
abeNd-org	and telling me how I am racist if I suggest they seek employment	Oct 29 13:50
schestowitz	nope	Oct 29 13:55
schestowitz	they cannot find work	Oct 29 13:55
schestowitz	either due to health issues or some other reasons like work record	Oct 29 13:55
schestowitz	don't generalise, some people really want to get employment but can't	Oct 29 13:56
MinceR	i don't see how that's racist	Oct 29 13:56
schestowitz	see, Fox news like to play both cards	Oct 29 13:58
schestowitz	sometimes at the same time	Oct 29 13:58
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schestowitz	poor and black/Latino at the same time	Oct 29 13:58
schestowitz	see, according to News Corp. (Murdoch), all of the US problems are due to angry blacks and lazy Latinos	Oct 29 13:59
schestowitz	not outsourcing to China	Oct 29 13:59
abeNd-org	plenty of poor white folks in my community too	Oct 29 13:59
schestowitz	In reality, many latinos work the fields that feed the US	Oct 29 13:59
schestowitz	and blacks tend to do some very hard jobs, including military careers and steel works	Oct 29 13:59
schestowitz	abeNd-org: yes, it's not a race thing	Oct 29 13:59
schestowitz	but when some news channels speak to redneck they capitalise on the race card	Oct 29 14:00
schestowitz	so that Latinos and whites don't unite against the rich class	Oct 29 14:00
schestowitz	instead do drive-by shootings and distrust	Oct 29 14:00
abeNd-org	see, if any of them gave a rats arse, they would go to the library, fill out employment forms there, educate themselves on a work related subject, take free online classes/training/etc, but no, the ones that do come by only pick up movies (most of the time stealing them & claiming them lost/broken/stolen) or play video games	Oct 29 14:00
schestowitz	I'm not saying you watch Fox 'News'	Oct 29 14:00
schestowitz	I have some neighbours who are jobless	Oct 29 14:00
abeNd-org	SOMEHOW they manage to afford a PS4, a 65"+ TV, & a zillion games, and the time to play them	Oct 29 14:01
schestowitz	and they're nice, hard-working people, at least until they had health issues	Oct 29 14:01
schestowitz	abeNd-org: your neighbours of the fictional cherry-picked people shown on TV?	Oct 29 14:01
schestowitz	Here too the media plays this game	Oct 29 14:01
abeNd-org	and there are plenty of physically/mentally able people sitting at home smoking crack and playing video games instead of educating themselves	Oct 29 14:01
schestowitz	portrays people who are unable to find employment as hishonest, lazy, etc.	Oct 29 14:02
schestowitz	They barely even get much welfare, just enough for basic bills	Oct 29 14:02
abeNd-org	schestowitz no, I "judge" by what I see going through town	Oct 29 14:02
schestowitz	maybe in Texas	Oct 29 14:02
schestowitz	not in here	Oct 29 14:02
schestowitz	not in general anyway	Oct 29 14:02
abeNd-org	schestowitz was the same in GA, and even worse in MI	Oct 29 14:02
schestowitz	michigan has employment issues	Oct 29 14:02
schestowitz	it has a residue from an industrial boom era	Oct 29 14:03
schestowitz	not the jobs are in china and its vicinity	Oct 29 14:03
abeNd-org	schestowitz yes it does, but plenty of self induced issues as well	Oct 29 14:03
schestowitz	so the anger should be directed at execs who did this	Oct 29 14:03
schestowitz	and thus concentrated US wealth (and political influence)... such that around 2% of the US population has the majority of the overall wealth, IIRC	Oct 29 14:03
schestowitz	Because their workers are in China	Oct 29 14:04
abeNd-org	and now you have the likes of disney/suntrust bank/etc replacing american workers with less expensive H1Bs, even making the fired workers stay on for free for 2 yrs (but I think suntrust finally pulled that after the media controversy over that clause)	Oct 29 14:05
schestowitz	yes, so now you know who the real problems are	Oct 29 14:07
schestowitz	not the H1Bs	Oct 29 14:07
schestowitz	the people who discard the workforce for them	Oct 29 14:08
schestowitz	Those H1Bs are law-abiding and want to cater for their families	Oct 29 14:08
schestowitz	US politicians are the very people who, under corporate pressure (or bribes), make programs like H1B	Oct 29 14:08
schestowitz	!google bill gates techrights H1B	Oct 29 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Bill Gates Targets Visa Rules for Tech Workers : NPR \| http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D88154016	Oct 29 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 ... \| http://www.computerworld.com/article/2490207/technology-law-regulation/u-s--senator-blasts-microsoft-s-h-1b-push-as-it-lays-off-18-000-workers.html	Oct 29 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Bill Gates to Congress: Let us hire more foreigners - CNET \| http://www.cnet.com/news/bill-gates-to-congress-let-us-hire-more-foreigners/	Oct 29 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - 2009 December 15 \| Techrights \| http://techrights.org/2009/12/15/	Oct 29 14:08
schestowitz	Your enemy isn't the poor	Oct 29 14:09
schestowitz	or the foreign	Oct 29 14:09
schestowitz	but the global(ist) ruling elite	Oct 29 14:09
schestowitz	those who want more for themselves and less (or nothing) for everybody else	Oct 29 14:09
schestowitz	as long as the latter group doesn't show up with pitchforks in their back yards, whereupon they invite their increasingly-militarised goons (police) in an effort to thwart resistance, sometimes pro-actively (thoughtcrime, NSA)	Oct 29 14:10
schestowitz	BTW, my wife's uncle immigrated to Texas and worked there for over a decade, got amnesty	Oct 29 14:11
schestowitz	Houston IIRC	Oct 29 14:11
schestowitz	There is clearly motivation to race to the bottom, and it's coming not from the wider population but from the few who profit from hard-working and over-stressed people	Oct 29 14:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> @SenSanders The State, in a democratic, civilized society,	Oct 29 14:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> should itself not be involved in the murder of	Oct 29 14:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> other Americans.	Oct 29 14:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7q8v	Oct 29 14:12
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schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> @SenSanders The time is now for the United States to end	Oct 29 14:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> capital punishment.	Oct 29 14:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7q77	Oct 29 14:12
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schestowitz	https://t.co/thJJvQZE8s	Oct 29 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com \| European Parliament Says Snowden Should Be Welcomed in Europe		Oct 29 14:13
schestowitz	"big heh"	Oct 29 14:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757569	Oct 29 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "stop resisting!" mentality from #nsa http://www.thedrum.com/news/2015/10/27/nsa-deputy-director-warns-increasing-cyber-attacks-and-calls-nations-draw-red-lines http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34647541 http://time.com/4088225/cyber-attacks-nsa-richard-ledgett/ http://www.scmagazine.com/nsa-slams-snowden-but-accepts-need-for-high-level-debate-on-privacy/article/449602/		Oct 29 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedrum.com \| NSA deputy director warns of increasing cyber attacks and calls for nations to draw red lines \| The Drum [ http://ur1.ca/o7qaa ]		Oct 29 14:17
schestowitz	The sins never die.	Oct 29 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| NSA chief warns of cyber attack danger from nation states - BBC News		Oct 29 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com \| Danger of Cyberattacks Is Growing, NSA Official Warns		Oct 29 14:17
schestowitz	"The sins never die.https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757644	Oct 29 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scmagazine.com \| NSA slams Snowden but accepts need for high-level debate on privacy - SC Magazine		Oct 29 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #nsa scandals (among others: #torture #drones #petraeus #clinton etc.) show that it's not about the crime committed but who it's >for<		Oct 29 14:18
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cubexyz	Microsoft doesn't care about anyone	Oct 29 14:28
cubexyz	if profits slip then out ya go	Oct 29 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack and HP https://t.co/lef1ARRN0L	Oct 29 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 14:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical, Red Hat Among Ceph Distributed	Oct 29 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	Storage Advisory Board https://t.co/cgxpMRMN86	Oct 29 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 14:41
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-monopoly-oem.pdf	Oct 29 15:51
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cubexyz	the OEMs were a bunch of pansies	Oct 29 15:58
cubexyz	even in 1994 I saw some students running Linux	Oct 29 15:58
cubexyz	the OEMs didn't even try any alternative operating systems except BeOS and that was squashed	Oct 29 16:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Security Process -- Part 1: A Cloud	Oct 29 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	Security Introduction https://t.co/cPbDYakVSF	Oct 29 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 16:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets (Open	Oct 29 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	Hardware) https://t.co/Iefs1W7Oy4	Oct 29 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 16:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/AyEYA7RoEF	Oct 29 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 16:12
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cubexyz	From 2002:	Oct 29 16:41
cubexyz	"Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly already proved her bias when she insisted that all state's documents be provided in Microsoft Word format."	Oct 29 16:42
cubexyz	unbelieveable	Oct 29 16:42
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schestowitz	ah!!	Oct 29 17:56
schestowitz	I didn't know she was /this/ biased	Oct 29 17:56
schestowitz	cubexyz: is that in the PDF?	Oct 29 17:56
schestowitz	[17:04] <MinceR> so, what happened to cray's love affair with m$?	Oct 29 17:57
schestowitz	Not heard of that in a long time, maybe it was mostly a press release and catalogue	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	to help Microsoft sell the illusion that MS is not totally dead in HPC	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	It still did some campaigning about that around 2010	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	not later, so I assume they gave up formally, more or less...	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	Lots of media noise about it when I did my PhD around 2005	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	to the point where some utter f* idiot in our department decided to become MS' experience	Oct 29 17:59
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schestowitz	to dump the Linux HPC, its admin resigned in protest	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	I also voiced my opposition, but I was too "low level" compared to the Profs	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	So I ranted in my blog at the time	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	I can find it in my blog it I _really_ try	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	[14:29] <cubexyz> he actually does use Linux	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	Still? Evidence of it?	Oct 29 18:00
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Viper550	microsoft getting way too aggressive in forcing its spyware-encrusted Vista 10 on everyone by any means nessecary	Oct 29 18:24
cubexyz	schestowitz, I'll contact him...	Oct 29 18:30
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Viper550	http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/29/9639414/microsoft-windows-10-automatic-update-recommended	Oct 29 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Microsoft planning to automatically offer Windows 10 to existing PCs \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/o7rjo ]		Oct 29 18:31
cubexyz	I'll report any reply here	Oct 29 18:33
Viper550	oh, and a silly small claims court in my country claimed that asking someone to send them a copy of something from a paywalled publication is actually a circumvention of DRM!	Oct 29 18:36
cubexyz	was this case in Canada?	Oct 29 18:40
Viper550	yep	Oct 29 18:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/RSpRcsIWDG	Oct 29 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Python and Java https://t.co/U4LgfSGhY9	Oct 29 19:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's	Oct 29 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat is boring -- and more open source	Oct 29 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	companies should emulate it	Oct 29 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Tz2J7ukD8t (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 20:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat is boring -- and more open source companies should emulate it \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra	Oct 29 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	K1 https://t.co/crLHltarQs	Oct 29 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 20:21
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MinceR	no, nobody should emulate redcrap	Oct 29 20:23
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MinceR	they've done more harm to gnu/linux than m$ ever could	Oct 29 20:23
MinceR	or crApple	Oct 29 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 29 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/eThQa98Kwa	Oct 29 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Skimming Files Before You Grep Them	Oct 29 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QG812j4P5N (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 21:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Race to Develop an Open-Source Voting	Oct 30 02:53
TweetTuxMachines	System Is On https://t.co/xIFsKjIFXA	Oct 30 02:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu	Oct 30 02:53
TweetTuxMachines	laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC	Oct 30 02:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mNR2q9Vjax (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 02:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the	Oct 30 04:06
TweetTuxMachines	Freedom of Android https://t.co/a99RICLp4t	Oct 30 04:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 04:06
TweetTuxMachines	Android	Oct 30 04:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MPHR2aIlWz (www.theverge.com)	Oct 30 04:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bosson/status/660006405236199424	Oct 30 04:16
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schestowitz	yes, they have said for nearly 4 years that they would try to fuse them together...	Oct 30 04:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bosson/status/660007517834059776	Oct 30 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @schestowitz I am still looking for better ways to run android apps on gnu-linux desktops.		Oct 30 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry touts its Android Priv phone in new	Oct 30 04:32
TweetTuxMachines	video spots https://t.co/pSpM04I6t1	Oct 30 04:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nexus 6P teardown proves Android users will	Oct 30 04:33
TweetTuxMachines	feel the iPain https://t.co/xHKUwpEU9P	Oct 30 04:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based Samsung Z3 smartphone launches in	Oct 30 04:33
TweetTuxMachines	India https://t.co/V9qNb8FB1M (www.itworld.com)	Oct 30 04:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $70 worth of paid Android apps are on sale for	Oct 30 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	free right now on Amazon	Oct 30 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TKJB7o7Qmw (bgr.com)	Oct 30 04:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Best Free Android Apps: $70 worth of Android apps free from Amazon \| BGR		Oct 30 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FFmpeg and Kodi arrived to jessie-backports!	Oct 30 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BL9WUhzEcd (balintreczey.hu)	Oct 30 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmg	Oct 30 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu \| FFmpeg and Kodi arrived to jessie-backports! \| Obsessed with reality		Oct 30 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma: Workaround for maximized windows	Oct 30 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	that expand under panel	Oct 30 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7kTJAfaP1S	Oct 30 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	(dingyichen.wordpress.com)	Oct 30 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmi	Oct 30 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dingyichen.wordpress.com \| KDE Plasma: Workaround for maximized windows that expend under panel \| Definite's Extractor		Oct 30 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a	Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux	Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NF4j99XiH2 (lifehacker.com)	Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp2	Oct 30 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux		Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto X Force: A shatterproof Android phone for	Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	outside the U.S. https://t.co/5mK136LZXj	Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp3	Oct 30 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Moto X Force: A shatterproof Android phone for outside the U.S. \| ZDNet		Oct 30 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/irGpB9PnK1	Oct 30 05:08
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp5	Oct 30 05:08
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schestowitz	x http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/28/bill-gates-birthday-predicted-future	Oct 30 05:21
*schestowitz barfs		Oct 30 05:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ew.com \| Bill Gates predicted the future in January 2000 \| EW.com		Oct 30 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the	Oct 30 05:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Freedom of Android https://t.co/a99RICLp4t	Oct 30 05:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Oct 30 05:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tr9	Oct 30 05:22
*TweetTuxMachines @deusexstigma retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the Freedom of Android...'		Oct 30 05:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft-Connected Xamarin Demolishes the Freedom of Android \| Techrights		Oct 30 05:22
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/irGpB9PnK1'		Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux	Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	on i.MX6UL https://t.co/Uf2nFzsbdg	Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ttg	Oct 30 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on i.MX6UL \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1	Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQ47SViVMs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tth	Oct 30 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1 \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on	Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems	Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/I72goa1NvY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tti	Oct 30 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/lFHIAbTOus	Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ttj	Oct 30 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A road trip into the Free Software Foundation's	Oct 30 05:42
TweetTuxMachines	early days https://t.co/RWzsQQJYQF	Oct 30 05:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 05:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ttv	Oct 30 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A road trip into the Free Software Foundation's early days \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 05:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on GParted...'		Oct 30 05:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/lFHIAbTOus'		Oct 30 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “Other than Android won these wars, iOS is a	Oct 30 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	healthy niche market … Windows Phone continues	Oct 30 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	to remain dead” https://t.co/KvME5Hy5jy	Oct 30 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	(communities-dominate.blogs.com)	Oct 30 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tz4	Oct 30 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communities-dominate.blogs.com \| Communities Dominate Brands: Smartphone Wars: Q3 Scorecard - All market shares, Top 10 brands, OS platforms, Installed base		Oct 30 06:24
msb_	_The Shadow_ 1994 Alec Baldwin, Penelope Ann Miller, Peter Boyle -- wonderful! The Shadow knows! Bwa-ha-ha http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111143/combined	Oct 30 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Shadow (1994)		Oct 30 06:38
cubexyz	maybe Gates can explain why CD owners can't backup their CDs on windows	Oct 30 07:00
cubexyz	a long time ago, about 1998 I started to hear about 'convergence'	Oct 30 07:01
cubexyz	TVs and computers were supposed to merge	Oct 30 07:02
cubexyz	now I knew that wouldn't happen in general simply because for work PCs you're not supposed to be watching television!	Oct 30 07:02
cubexyz	although I didn't predict the Linux TV, in hindsight it seems logical	Oct 30 07:03
cubexyz	in 1994 did I think I'd be living in a linux dominated house? no way	Oct 30 07:03
cubexyz	the death of Commodore and the Amiga, the failure of Minix, the extinction of Xenix, and the rise of Linux happened	Oct 30 07:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: A lot of people stopped watching TV.	Oct 30 07:05
XRevan86	Because TV is not the best source of information and entertainment anymore.	Oct 30 07:05
cubexyz	that is true	Oct 30 07:05
cubexyz	I'll add in fact that Microsoft squeezed out BeOS to the list	Oct 30 07:07
cubexyz	s/in/the/	Oct 30 07:07
XRevan86	So TV won't merge into PC because PC doesn't need that TV thing at all.	Oct 30 07:08
cubexyz	my TV is basically a Linux computer, I've taken it apart	Oct 30 07:09
cubexyz	the internals are very similar to a laptop	Oct 30 07:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: What do you watch on it?	Oct 30 07:09
cubexyz	news, sports, nature shows	Oct 30 07:09
cubexyz	the screen is an output device, I can plug a real computer into it and use ffplay and mplayer to watch stuff I've downloaded	Oct 30 07:10
XRevan86	Okay, wrong question. cubexyz: Do you watch "traditional" TV broadcast or do you use Internet?	Oct 30 07:10
cubexyz	I use the internet more than broadcast/satellite TV	Oct 30 07:11
cubexyz	both really, but more on internet	Oct 30 07:11
XRevan86	By the way, TV (broadcast) is widely called "zombiebox" in Russian Internet :).	Oct 30 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a	Oct 30 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux	Oct 30 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto https://t.co/NF4j99XiH2 (lifehacker.com)	Oct 30 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7u4i	Oct 30 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux		Oct 30 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Stefan Sperling	Oct 30 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QmkEvKblQC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7u4j	Oct 30 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Stefan Sperling \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 07:13
XRevan86	https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/зомбоящик	Oct 30 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wiktionary.org \| зомбоящик — Викисловарь		Oct 30 07:13
cubexyz	yes, it's stupefying	Oct 30 07:13
cubexyz	endless car commercials	Oct 30 07:13
cubexyz	but windows 10 has managed to crap up the computer as well	Oct 30 07:17
cubexyz	I think I mentioned the start button gives you burger ads :)	Oct 30 07:18
XRevan86	"Windows 10: the burger for your PC"	Oct 30 07:18
cubexyz	the lock screen may be next	Oct 30 07:18
cubexyz	what is the future.... coca-cola calendar, McDonals email client, Wal-mart web browser?	Oct 30 07:20
cubexyz	it could be very bad	Oct 30 07:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: Microsoft Coca-Cola, Microsoft McDonalds, Microsoft Wal-mart	Oct 30 07:20
XRevan86	Would be very progressive.	Oct 30 07:21
cubexyz	sounds like a future dystopia	Oct 30 07:21
cubexyz	the last 20 years or so have been like brainwashing	Oct 30 07:23
cubexyz	https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/store/music/album/xavier/brainwashing/8d6kgx7gx288	Oct 30 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microsoft.com \| Brainwashing - Microsoft Store		Oct 30 07:26
cubexyz	actually forget future dystopia, it's dystopia now :-/	Oct 30 07:28
XRevan86	3 hundred years of Enlightenment	Oct 30 07:30
XRevan86	it is time to go back to medieval darkness	Oct 30 07:30
cubexyz	http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from	Oct 30 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| Microsoft's Brainwashing Children's Book: Mommy, Where Do Servers Come From?		Oct 30 07:30
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cubexyz	MinceR, can you believe this crap?	Oct 30 07:31
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schestowitz	> Hey there. You free about 1400 to chat?	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	Yes, of course. I am about to publish today's 4th article about the EPO, and I still have some new information in my inbox (haven't had time to review that material yet). The EPO is having a very tough week, so I expect reckless finger-pointing from them.	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	Patent lawyers in Europe have told me that I "must" fight the EPO over this. They too are curious about the outcome.	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Oct 30 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO - Techrights		Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	cubexyz: isn't that old news?	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	What's the data on it?	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	I remember something like "mommy, where did this home server come from?"	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	around 2010	Oct 30 08:38
cubexyz	right	Oct 30 08:38
schestowitz	is this old?	Oct 30 08:38
cubexyz	I only saw it today :)	Oct 30 08:39
schestowitz	ok, if they still do it, then we need to rebut	Oct 30 08:39
schestowitz	I think they stopped	Oct 30 08:39
schestowitz	maybe they canned the PR con behind it	Oct 30 08:39
cubexyz	that article was from 2008	Oct 30 08:39
cubexyz	so you are right, it's 'old' in computer terms	Oct 30 08:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/660072274125594624	Oct 30 08:41
cubexyz	I still think about 1995 sometimes	Oct 30 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Thank you very much for posting this article! People are suffering for years at EPO hopefully they wake up before it's too late		Oct 30 08:41
schestowitz	cubexyz: thanks for nostagism [suc]	Oct 30 08:41
schestowitz	You're bring back a lot of stuff people tend to forget about	Oct 30 08:41
schestowitz	though they're still very relevant	Oct 30 08:41
schestowitz	not many discuss boot freedom in the media anymore	Oct 30 08:41
schestowitz	MS won the 'war'	Oct 30 08:42
schestowitz	and now UEFI is widespread	Oct 30 08:42
cubexyz	UEFI can be replaced given sufficient knowledge	Oct 30 08:42
cubexyz	the other alternative is to use older pre-UEFI computers	Oct 30 08:43
schestowitz	> Hold off publishing your next article until after we chat. Will call between 1400 and 1430.	Oct 30 08:43
schestowitz	OK, no problem...	Oct 30 08:43
cubexyz	I realize this is unpopular, but it's popular in part due to microsoft's forced upgrades	Oct 30 08:43
cubexyz	s/popular/unpopular/	Oct 30 08:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/profBury/status/660074549485158400	Oct 30 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@profBury: #EUisus https://t.co/W3JTo2iHzy		Oct 30 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mass surveillance: EU citizens' rights still in danger, says Parliament https://t.co/Mhy6cfPr8w #espionage against all of us		Oct 30 08:44
cubexyz	schestowitz, it seems it was ad-tastic book by microsoft to promote WHS (Windows Home Server)	Oct 30 08:47
cubexyz	put it in the pile with Microsoft Bob and Encarta :)	Oct 30 08:48
schestowitz	cubexyz:	Oct 30 08:49
schestowitz	> There was a federal election in Canada last week. My morale improved	Oct 30 08:49
schestowitz	> very slightly, that Harper scumbag is out.	Oct 30 08:49
cubexyz	yes, Justin Trudeau and the liberals won a majority	Oct 30 08:49
cubexyz	I was very surpised	Oct 30 08:49
cubexyz	in opposition to Microsoft's brainwashing we have grass-roots blogs and the FSF	Oct 30 08:50
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/restricted-boots.jpg	Oct 30 08:53
cubexyz	https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/	Oct 30 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org \| Current campaigns — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Oct 30 08:55
cubexyz	The FSF has identified all the major problems	Oct 30 08:56
msb_	The FSF has _not_ identified systemd as a problem!	Oct 30 08:58
cubexyz	ok, fair point	Oct 30 08:58
msb_	As to TV, RT is well worth watching. Very accurate news and analysis.	Oct 30 08:58
msb_	Facts like these will never be mentioned on corporate TV: http://pastebin.com/4peaAbHe	Oct 30 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebin.com \| RT: Syria Civil War - Pastebin.com		Oct 30 09:04
msb_	Or corporate newspapers.	Oct 30 09:05
cubexyz	and I'm afraid to say that the FSF's advice is too vague	Oct 30 09:16
cubexyz	simply saying "use coreboot" involves a lot of work for the user	Oct 30 09:16
cubexyz	I spent a lot of time looking at coreboot and there are a lot of things coreboot doesn't do that AMI bios does do	Oct 30 09:18
msb_	And, until coreboot expands its coverage substantially, restricts users to a tiny subset of computers/mobos.	Oct 30 09:19
cubexyz	to put it simply, AMI BIOS does a better job of handling quirky cases	Oct 30 09:19
cubexyz	warm booting is handled better	Oct 30 09:19
cubexyz	well, best solution now is to go chromebook or chromebox	Oct 30 09:19
cubexyz	unless you want to become a BIOS guru	Oct 30 09:20
msb_	AMI are the professionals in the field of BIOS. Which doesn't guarantee that there isn't something nasty hidden in their code.	Oct 30 09:20
msb_	chromebook/box are good only if you want to settle for a slow computer.	Oct 30 09:21
cubexyz	that's not true, it's a function of $$$	Oct 30 09:22
cubexyz	I already stated there's i5 and i7 chromebooks	Oct 30 09:22
msb_	If possible, blocking control packets that operate the internal intrusion mechanisms, using a $50 homemade router, would be better.	Oct 30 09:23
msb_	How fast and how expensive are the 8-core chromebooks? (And I would never use an Intel CRT. I think it's more vulnerable than an AMD.)	Oct 30 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint History and Development	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e74hrgqoO4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7uk6	Oct 30 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint History and Development \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source intelligence techniques and the	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	Dark Web https://t.co/za6yFwkUKZ	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7uk7	Oct 30 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source intelligence techniques and the Dark Web \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 6 Vs. iOS 9: The Showdown	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S1BD5vaNz2	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	(fieldguide.gizmodo.com)	Oct 30 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7uk8	Oct 30 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fieldguide.gizmodo.com \| Android 6 Vs. iOS 9: The Showdown		Oct 30 09:32
cubexyz	chromebook pixel is top of the line ultra low voltage i5 or i7 cpu	Oct 30 09:34
cubexyz	i7-5500u cpu	Oct 30 09:34
cubexyz	2 cores, 4 threads says ask.intel.com	Oct 30 09:35
cubexyz	TDP is an amazing 15 W	Oct 30 09:35
cubexyz	goes for about $1500 US	Oct 30 09:36
cubexyz	chromebook has another advantage, it doesn't get too hot	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Kiran	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	Padwal https://t.co/sW13lAHT0B (www.linux.com)	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ukx	Oct 30 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Kiran Padwal \| Linux.com		Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/txJnjCZtOf (www.linuxinsider.com)	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7uky	Oct 30 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's \| Business \| LinuxInsider		Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	K1 https://t.co/JWzzEaiG40 (linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ukz	Oct 30 09:37
cubexyz	at least the one I have doesn't, you can watch videos and put the chromebook in your lap	Oct 30 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra K1 · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 30 09:37
msb_	i7-5500u cpu has a cpumark score of 3972. AMD FX-8350 scores 8973.	Oct 30 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/MPHR2aIlWz	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7um6	Oct 30 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Google is merging Chrome OS and Android \| The Verge		Oct 30 09:45
cubexyz	125 watts TDP	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5X7nlXA2Vh (betanews.com)	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7um8	Oct 30 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC \| BetaNews		Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	on i.MX6UL https://t.co/jlIdTTLuFD	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7um9	Oct 30 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on i.MX6UL · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 30 09:45
cubexyz	show me a laptop that uses AMD FX-8350... I don't think there is one	Oct 30 09:45
cubexyz	it's an unfair comparison	Oct 30 09:46
msb_	But it's easy to build a desktop with it.	Oct 30 09:46
cubexyz	15 TDP watt vs 125 TDP watt	Oct 30 09:47
msb_	So what?	Oct 30 09:47
cubexyz	AND you have no BIOS source code	Oct 30 09:47
cubexyz	that's what	Oct 30 09:47
msb_	You don't want to spend 2 cents/hour	Oct 30 09:47
msb_	?	Oct 30 09:47
cubexyz	there's no laptop with FX-8350 since it would overheat for sure	Oct 30 09:48
msb_	It's an Intel cpu. It's already cracked.	Oct 30 09:48
msb_	I guess if you want it portable, you can settle for half speed. What does it cost?	Oct 30 09:49
cubexyz	it's expensive, about $1500	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XgrrrNxMPK (solus-project.com)	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7un5	Oct 30 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com \| Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1 \| Solus Project		Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TiUWypStqw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7un6	Oct 30 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/ews.softpedia.com/news/systemrescuecd-and-gparted-live-now-based-on-gparted-0-24-0-detect-zfs-filesystems-495511.shtml )		Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint History and Development	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bTHk5Vay30 (www.unixmen.com)	Oct 30 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7un7	Oct 30 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com \| Linux Mint History and Development \| Unixmen		Oct 30 09:50
msb_	Slow and expensive. Not what I'd want for my main computer. Also I want a lot of disk bays.	Oct 30 09:52
msb_	I don't travel much. All I'd want for a portable is a tablet for shopping lists.	Oct 30 09:53
msb_	<$100	Oct 30 09:53
msb_	Pen and paper work too.	Oct 30 09:53
cubexyz	I wouldn't buy the pixel either	Oct 30 09:55
cubexyz	just pointing out alternatives with coreboot	Oct 30 09:55
cubexyz	ha, the pirates are selling subscriptions to access bios source code	Oct 30 09:57
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cubexyz	ok, if you can find the file hpbios.rar you might be able to get more bios source code	Oct 30 10:08
cubexyz	clever, the chinese have a huge source code repository	Oct 30 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November	Oct 30 10:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November	Oct 30 10:29
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schestowitz	"while cyanide may be silent, it is also an indiscriminate killer,	Oct 30 10:37
schestowitz	affecting other wildlife and contaminating the ecosystem. The	Oct 30 10:37
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schestowitz	http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/27/africa/zimbabwe-elephant-poaching/	Oct 30 10:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PrisonPC: How Linux plays a useful role behind	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	bars https://t.co/Xo0cSSIdTk (www.itwire.com)	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	Con Zymaris is back	Oct 30 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Has a Diverse Software Focused Patent	Oct 30 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	Portfolio https://t.co/My62H8bCJV	Oct 30 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	(patentvue.com) so it can attack, extort,	Oct 30 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	blackmail android and linux	Oct 30 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Chromebooks have been burning up the sales	Oct 30 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	charts on Amazon for a while now"	Oct 30 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity	Oct 30 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	platform, says report https://t.co/SsErT8nn5l	Oct 30 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitimes.com)	Oct 30 11:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth & Rising	Oct 30 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	Tide for Linux Review https://t.co/DVs4RJrLhi	Oct 30 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.softpedia.com)	Oct 30 11:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where you can get a Linux laptop for super	Oct 30 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	cheap this Saturday https://t.co/hsF0w0H0oo	Oct 30 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	(technical.ly)	Oct 30 11:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Winners Announced! Linux Pros Show Off	Oct 30 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	Knowledge in #WorldWithoutLinux Contest But One	Oct 30 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	Clue Stumps Them All https://t.co/4EmTB8vfRx	Oct 30 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Oct 30 11:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Winners Announced! Linux Pros Show Off Knowledge in #WorldWithoutLinux Contest But One Clue Stumps Them All \| Linux.com		Oct 30 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create Ubuntu Phone Apps, Develop Ubuntu	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	Core-Based Projects and Win Prizes	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yX7ivOs8q4 (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 30 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make in India: Canonical looking at	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	manufacturing Ubuntu smartphones in India	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WrBfz6w7qo (www.bgr.in)	Oct 30 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fanless 3.5-inch SBC runs Linux on dual-core	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	Bay Trail https://t.co/kMR0vmxEX6	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux Laptops https://t.co/5ZwYKivz7k	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	platform, says report https://t.co/KfUXI7EEe6	Oct 30 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where you can get a Linux laptop for super	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	cheap this Saturday https://t.co/HXSsibUu80	Oct 30 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 11:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Competition and Kernel	Oct 30 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vFKCIQfOdh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 11:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/BjoiKivHKq	Oct 30 12:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre 2.42 eBook Reader and Converter Adds	Oct 30 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for the New NookGlowlight Plus	Oct 30 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oghNISAowl (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 30 12:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware-current got updated… 448 lines of	Oct 30 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	ChangeLog https://t.co/ZO53suZfN2	Oct 30 12:09
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/msgbi/status/660127533212573696	Oct 30 12:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.5 wallpaper contest	Oct 30 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kYxwwhbsB7	Oct 30 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	(kdeonlinux.wordpress.com)	Oct 30 13:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 30/10/2015: System76 Sells Oryx Pro,	Oct 30 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	Plasma 5.5 Looks for Wallpapers	Oct 30 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IbIyYFaix4 (techrights.org)	Oct 30 13:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.54 Announcement	Oct 30 13:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/672VmXC32s (www.winehq.org)	Oct 30 13:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDBUS Is Being Removed From Fedora, Could Be A	Oct 30 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	While Before Being Mainlined	Oct 30 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/w3Ct60jzCe (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 30 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/abekB6HS4Z	Oct 30 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/0K6UqQRjUw	Oct 30 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/F3EI6Qqe3z	Oct 30 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/ZYCQ9n6tat	Oct 30 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why systemd is a practical tool for sys admins	Oct 30 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7uEfQSiGBM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.19.1 released https://t.co/cZt22dhNNe	Oct 30 13:22
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schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36007/	Oct 30 13:44
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schestowitz	"	Oct 30 13:44
schestowitz	I have to admit, I'm a little confused. On one hand, Microsoft open-sources some components of the .NET framework, and on the other hand they closed-source a vital tool for some Android developers. I'm still convinced that Microsoft doesn't care about FOSS or GNU/Linux, or their communities. They're simply trying to nip a market trend in the bud... they're competing in a manner that appears collaborative at first glance.	Oct 30 13:44
schestowitz	I think it's time we took a moment to re-evaluate how we look at corporate entities that offer open-source software, and if they are susceptible to buyouts, whether their projects are viable for the community to invest precious time and effort into. RoboVM would never have been such a huge loss if it had forked from the very beginning and managed by a non-corporate entity. We've already decided not to trust MySQL any more because of what	Oct 30 13:44
schestowitz	Oracle has done to it. Why should we not apply this same decision to several other company-offered projects?	Oct 30 13:44
schestowitz	"	Oct 30 13:44
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6761342	Oct 30 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Indonesia is burning. So why is the world looking away? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/30/indonesia-fires-disaster-21st-century-world-mediav article by Monbiot		Oct 30 13:58
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schestowitz	"Business as usual? Indonesia too far? Nobody cares for environment?"	Oct 30 13:58
cubexyz	if you're worried about MySQL is not MariaDB an acceptable replacement?	Oct 30 13:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 30/10/2015: System76 Sells Oryx Pro,	Oct 30 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Plasma 5.5 Looks for Wallpapers	Oct 30 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/IbIyYFaix4 (techrights.org)	Oct 30 14:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 30/10/2015: System76 Sells Oryx Pro, Plasma 5.5...'		Oct 30 16:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release	Oct 30 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0tYvO5dSoH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/UOFTv3IBr9	Oct 30 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines More Leftovers: Software	Oct 30 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PBA57eQsAo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/Q5U70fcSBN	Oct 30 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 16:13
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt	Oct 30 17:01
cubexyz	see what you're missing? :)	Oct 30 17:01
schestowitz	>They never wanted to provide the world with free software, they wanted the world to provide them with free development.	Oct 30 17:04
schestowitz	I rather think the contrary : you can't pay your rent with an open source business model. I know, Red Hat is an exception. But just look at Canonical, it's still not profitable, though it's the most popular Linux distro. Now think about tiny companies, they don't have a least chance to survive if they go open and free. Your good faith WILL be abused if you have anything valuable.	Oct 30 17:04
schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36007/	Oct 30 17:04
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schestowitz	"	Oct 30 17:04
schestowitz	That's beside the point though, it appears RoboVM was always a commercial vendor.	Oct 30 17:04
schestowitz	Creating something of value and watching people use it, even make money from it, is part and parcel of free software.	Oct 30 17:04
schestowitz	"	Oct 30 17:04
cubexyz	what about OpenBSD?	Oct 30 17:05
cubexyz	20 years and still going	Oct 30 17:05
cubexyz	ok, 19 years	Oct 30 17:05
schestowitz	19	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	or 20?	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	I think 20	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	just weeks ago, maybe 1.5 weeks ago	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	18th?	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	of oct?	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	(from memory)	Oct 30 17:08
cubexyz	19 years as of Oct 18th 2015, yes	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	[17:59] <cubexyz> if you're worried about MySQL is not MariaDB an acceptable replacement?	Oct 30 17:08
schestowitz	Never worked for a client with mariadb installed	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	they use vanilla mysql	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	but maybe oracle will go more rogue	Oct 30 17:09
cubexyz	sorry, correction...	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	or maybe - just maybe - mariadb's existence prevents mysql from going rogue under oracle	Oct 30 17:09
cubexyz	Oct 1st, 1996 was the original release	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	there ought to be another date	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	maybe older version	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	pre 1.0	Oct 30 17:09
cubexyz	Oct 18th, 2015 was the release date for 5.8	Oct 30 17:09
schestowitz	yes, but that was also an anniversary	Oct 30 17:10
schestowitz	20 years of... something	Oct 30 17:10
schestowitz	linux too has mutiple important dates	Oct 30 17:10
schestowitz	like 1.0 release, linux mailing list message	Oct 30 17:10
cubexyz	the source tree is 20 years old :)	Oct 30 17:10
schestowitz	then there's owen leblanc, my former colleague, who was the first to combine gnu and linux	Oct 30 17:10
cubexyz	I can't remember the beginning	Oct 30 17:10
cubexyz	20 years of cvs	Oct 30 17:11
cubexyz	ok, now I'm wondering what GNU started on :)	Oct 30 17:12
cubexyz	since it predates linux	Oct 30 17:12
schestowitz	1983 i think	Oct 30 17:13
schestowitz	but I think it started with gnu	Oct 30 17:13
schestowitz	but beforehand emacs	Oct 30 17:13
schestowitz	which became gnu	Oct 30 17:13
schestowitz	and later there was the gpl	Oct 30 17:13
schestowitz	probably came after the gnu/free software manifesto, with help from lawyers	Oct 30 17:13
cubexyz	if you get a chance ask Stallman what he wrote GNU on in the early days	Oct 30 17:14
schestowitz	I did an interview with RMS about it	Oct 30 17:14
schestowitz	he told me	Oct 30 17:14
schestowitz	wait, I'll get the video	Oct 30 17:14
schestowitz	stallman interview techrights http://techrights.org/2014/12/30/stallman-interviews-summary/	Oct 30 17:14
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schestowitz	first two under "2014, Lincoln"	Oct 30 17:15
schestowitz	Those are the relevant ones	Oct 30 17:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/rossahall/status/660202004590010369	Oct 30 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rossahall: @fth_nix @schestowitz Yeah, but if you can't read the words through the envelope you hit the kettle and steam the bugger open		Oct 30 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chrome OS is not dead, insists Google veep in	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	charge of Chrome OS https://t.co/mDFHS4AJ62	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wbp	Oct 30 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Chrome OS is not dead, insists Google veep in charge of Chrome OS \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	"Easily The Worst" They've Spun	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0vrEE7lUGS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wbq	Oct 30 17:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sabayon 15.11 https://t.co/rXgQBy2yBs	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wbr	Oct 30 17:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snapcraft Snappy Creator Tool for Ubuntu Snappy	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	Core Gets Closer to ROS https://t.co/zhXWNpcfAN	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wdc	Oct 30 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Snapcraft Snappy Creator Tool for Ubuntu Snappy Core Gets Closer to ROS \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/a65COQOgpT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wdd	Oct 30 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream!	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9dPj4t1cGn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wde	Oct 30 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream! \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	@jfoxdev @tuxmachines Speak not of #2 for it only gives	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	it power!	Oct 30 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wdf	Oct 30 17:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/metacode/status/660209372275023872	Oct 30 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: No Such Thing As A Free Gift: The Gates Foundation & The Price Of Philanthropy https://t.co/JvGrSoEm8Y EPUB by Lin. McGoey (cc @schestowitz)		Oct 30 18:17
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XFaCE	MinceR: schestowitz from edX:	Oct 30 18:37
XFaCE	"Bill and Melinda Gates have helped transform global health in the developing world, but they know that achieving success requires working through unique challenges. Get prepped to do your part, with Boston University's primer on global health."	Oct 30 18:37
MinceR	yecch	Oct 30 18:40
MinceR	they're transforming it all right	Oct 30 18:40
MinceR	into ruins	Oct 30 18:40
schestowitz	XFaCE: they pay edC	Oct 30 18:59
schestowitz	edX	Oct 30 18:59
schestowitz	partners of theirs, check history	Oct 30 18:59
schestowitz	fawning for $	Oct 30 18:59
schestowitz	Anyway, unless there's some serious scandal or new misconduct regarding B&M F* I don't want to spend much time on it, it has become a bit repetitive and not a top priority at the moment (EPO and software patents are)	Oct 30 19:00
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XFaCE	schestowitz: the EPO coverage is amazing	Oct 30 19:24
schestowitz	http://i.imgur.com/rX7JHKR.gifv	Oct 30 20:07
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schestowitz	XFaCE: thanks, takes much effort	Oct 30 20:07
schestowitz	and health toll, they bully me	Oct 30 20:07
schestowitz	just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 30 20:07
schestowitz	See tagging at top to help organise for journalists to follow and catch up: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Oct 30 20:07
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schestowitz	I made it a table to make scrolling less needed and cluster together similar themes, too	Oct 30 20:08
schestowitz	work in progress	Oct 30 20:08
schestowitz	2 more articles on their way tomorrow	Oct 30 20:08
schestowitz	XFaCE: and congrats on voting out Bush... I mean, Harper	Oct 30 20:08
schestowitz	reply from me (at work):	Oct 30 20:42
schestowitz	nmap installed on a server controlled by its right owner is like a kitchen knife in a chef's kitchen. If someone was to break into the server, he or she could install nmap anyway (with wget or apt-get or whatever), so the very existence of it on the server is probably not an issue. It contacts the outside world, but AFAIK it does not invite access from the outside world, not even with buffer overflows (unless the server makes it remotely	Oct 30 20:42
schestowitz	executable).	Oct 30 20:42
schestowitz	Maybe some detection tools don't like nmap because the media characterises it as a "hacking" (they mean cracking) tool, hence its very existence of it on a server may be indicative of present or past intrusion/s. In some countries the "possession" of such a "cyber weapon" (in US they try to classify it "munition", but EFF said they failed about 2 days ago) is an offence, and this was nearly the case in the UK and Germany around 2006.	Oct 30 20:42
schestowitz	Probably safe to remove it from a cache server. It's unlikely anything on such a server would need to port-scan.	Oct 30 20:42
XFaCE	[20:07:21]<schestowitz> just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 30 21:10
XFaCE	where do you get those meme photos?	Oct 30 21:11
XFaCE	the epo head in a tank :P	Oct 30 21:11
XFaCE	apt	Oct 30 21:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@jfoxdev @tuxmachines And #5 is more reassuring than	Oct 30 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	scary to a control freak	Oct 30 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wu3	Oct 30 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PulseAudio 7.1 is out https://t.co/d2r1vbWFwv	Oct 30 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	(arunraghavan.net)	Oct 30 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wu4	Oct 30 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arunraghavan.net \| PulseAudio 7.1 is out \| Arun Raghavan		Oct 30 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cockpit 0.82 Released	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lPgLntgtNk (stef.thewalter.net)	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/660271222358482944	Oct 30 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stef.thewalter.net \| Cockpit 0.82 Released		Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines C.H.I.P. flashing on Fedora	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RSaWj00jFY (www.hadess.net)	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wyk	Oct 30 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hadess.net \| /bɑs ˈtjɛ̃ no ˈse ʁɑ/ (hadess) \| News: C.H.I.P. flashing on Fedora		Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "ChromeOS is a stripped-down Gentoo-derived	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux operating system built using Chromium	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	OS" https://t.co/EW5IiLUasd	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Oct 30 22:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wyl	Oct 30 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Chrome OS is not dead, insists Google veep in charge of Chrome OS • The Register		Oct 30 22:52
MinceR	http://dilbert.com/strip/2004-03-28	Oct 31 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com \| Dilbert Comic Strip on 2004-03-28 \| Dilbert by Scott Adams		Oct 31 00:07
MinceR	Chrome OS is not dead, it's pining for the fjords!	Oct 31 00:07
msb_	cubexyz: Hi! Are you there?	Oct 31 02:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sabayon 15.11 https://t.co/XG0kJHuHL1	Oct 31 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.sabayon.org)	Oct 31 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xfx	Oct 31 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sabayon.org \| Latest Monthly Release: Sabayon 15.11 \| Sabayon \| Home		Oct 31 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is	Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	"Easily The Worst" They've Spun	Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/flQ3i9ED8v (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xg8	Oct 31 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is "Easily The Worst" They've Spun - Phoronix		Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch’s latest insane adventure: Installing	Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/QdnEivV1eA (arstechnica.com)	Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xg9	Oct 31 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Twitch’s latest insane adventure: Installing Linux \| Ars Technica		Oct 31 04:42
*TweetTuxMachines @stepankov814 followed @tuxmachines		Oct 31 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VCofdpYPZt (www.linuxinsider.com)	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xh2	Oct 31 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream!	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iTQfSIkAL3 (www.linux.com)	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xh3	Oct 31 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream! \| Linux.com		Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	Versions in System Settings	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Z20kwdDwGf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xh4	Oct 31 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions in System Settings \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	Milestone Available for Download Now	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fV8pg99Meq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xh5	Oct 31 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available for Download Now \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Neo4j Launches Open Source Graph Query Language	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	openCypher https://t.co/DzMsQG2NmM	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xh6	Oct 31 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Neo4j Launches Open Source Graph Query Language openCypher \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon,	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	Cinnamon 2.8.2 Available for Download	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DXxb1lFxi2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xh7	Oct 31 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon, Cinnamon 2.8.2 Available for Download \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JsqiLS0laP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xj8	Oct 31 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snapcraft Snappy Creator Tool for #Ubuntu	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Core Gets Closer to ROS	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XG0kJHuHL1 (www.sabayon.org)	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xj9	Oct 31 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sabayon.org \| Latest Monthly Release: Sabayon 15.11 \| Sabayon \| Home		Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First pictures of VLC running on Tizen, Coming	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	Soon to the Tizen Store https://t.co/NPiNzFPH65	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xja	Oct 31 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| First pictures of VLC running on Tizen, Coming Soon to the Tizen Store - Tizen Experts		Oct 31 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Builder 3.20 development underway	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZQyFSKGJqf (blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xks	Oct 31 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2015/10/30/builder-3-20-development-underway/ )		Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "While the software was designed to be run on	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	an Intel NUC using Linux"	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rlGNxtzhrZ (hacked.com)	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xkt	Oct 31 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacked.com \| TrustedSec Releases TAP – An Open Source Attack Platform \| Hacked		Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android is Being Disrupted by Microsoft and Its	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	Satellite Entities Like Cyanogen, Patent	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	Trolls, and Xamarin https://t.co/PIi9T9raCb	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Oct 31 05:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xku	Oct 31 05:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions...'		Oct 31 05:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available...'		Oct 31 05:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon, Cinnamon...'		Oct 31 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Android is Being Disrupted by Microsoft and Its Satellite Entities Like Cyanogen, Patent Trolls, and Xamarin \| Techrights		Oct 31 05:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory...'		Oct 31 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release	Oct 31 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pqdpssR6YD (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xmf	Oct 31 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release - Phoronix		Oct 31 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2016 Will be the Year of Android Auto	Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KZrkMFVer6	Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xn3	Oct 31 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| 2016 Will be the Year of Android Auto \| Androidheadlines.com		Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft's Poaching Efforts (Against	Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux) Advance, Don't Fall Into the Trap	Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GR5c5iRMfD (techrights.org)	Oct 31 06:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xn4	Oct 31 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft’s Poaching Efforts (Against GNU/Linux) Advance, Don’t Fall Into the Trap \| Techrights		Oct 31 06:23
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android is Being Disrupted by Microsoft and Its...'		Oct 31 06:40
*TweetTuxMachines @retroDoomer retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android is Being Disrupted by Microsoft and Its...'		Oct 31 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 obscure Android features and what they do	Oct 31 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RtmIvgvsxb (www.phonearena.com)	Oct 31 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xqi	Oct 31 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| 8 obscure Android features and what they do		Oct 31 07:22
*TweetTuxMachines @N1car favourited 'Android is Being Disrupted by Microsoft and Its...'		Oct 31 07:22
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft's Poaching Efforts (Against GNU/Linux) Advance, Don't Fall...'		Oct 31 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android device updates: Google posts	Oct 31 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	Marshmallow factory images for Nexus 6P and 5X	Oct 31 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XX4rpkcQzQ (www.greenbot.com)	Oct 31 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xqz	Oct 31 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com \| Android device updates: Google posts Marshmallow factory images for Nexus 6P and 5X \| Greenbot		Oct 31 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Gaming Paradox: There just aren't enough	Oct 31 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	Free and Open Source video games	Oct 31 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7YK2yngILT (www.networkworld.com)	Oct 31 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xrb	Oct 31 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| The Gaming Paradox: There just aren't enough Free and Open Source video games \| Network World		Oct 31 07:34
*TweetTuxMachines @skuggi favourited 'The Gaming Paradox: There just aren't enough Free...'		Oct 31 07:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mad Genius Coaxes Android Wear Into Running	Oct 31 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	Nintendo 64 And PlayStation Portable Game	Oct 31 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	Emulators https://t.co/yInGqgsc2n	Oct 31 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidpolice.com)	Oct 31 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xtp	Oct 31 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Mad Genius Coaxes Android Wear Into Running Nintendo 64 And PlayStation Portable Game Emulators		Oct 31 08:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Yesterday Afternoon and Today in Techrights	Oct 31 08:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vEUA7CIVnS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 08:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xtq	Oct 31 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Yesterday Afternoon and Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 08:11
cubexyz	chromebooks/boxes have multiple advantages	Oct 31 08:13
cubexyz	#1: Microsoft gets no money from a chromebook sale	Oct 31 08:14
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cubexyz	#2: You can download the BIOS source code	Oct 31 08:14
cubexyz	#3: some of the chromebooks run are extremely energy efficient	Oct 31 08:14
cubexyz	s/run//	Oct 31 08:15
cubexyz	come on brain :-/	Oct 31 08:15
cubexyz	coreboot will help you for no money	Oct 31 08:16
cubexyz	AMI will not acknowledge you exist without a lot of $$$	Oct 31 08:17
Pinguinpat	Something on the word "sloeber" in this context it actuality means a opportunist who gets away with things. But make no mistake: a few seconds later the right person calls Battistelli a horrible manipulative bastard with blood on his hand being responsible for the suicide of 5 employees.	Oct 31 08:28
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msb_	cubexyz: Would you please explain the relationship between framebuffer and X? This doc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt says "the X server works completely on /dev/fb*" but when I run fbset it says the resolution is "800x600-75" but xrandr says it's 1920 x 1080, which is the native resolution of my monitor. Does X run on top of FB, or do things work a different way?	Oct 31 09:08
msb_	I apologize for my ignorance of something so fundamental. I'm so ashamed!	Oct 31 09:10
cubexyz	think of the framerbuffer as a memory mapped device	Oct 31 09:10
cubexyz	ok, sometimes X has control, sometimes the framebuffer is in control	Oct 31 09:12
cubexyz	in any case, there is a graphics mode set	Oct 31 09:12
cubexyz	in Linux you can load a LKM to control the framebuffer	Oct 31 09:13
cubexyz	if not, then the kernel controls a simple text console	Oct 31 09:14
msb_	which you get from e.g. ctrl-alt-F3, right?	Oct 31 09:14
cubexyz	so when you do ctrl-alt-f1 you pass control to the text console or somethingfb	Oct 31 09:15
cubexyz	somethingfb can be a lot of different things	Oct 31 09:15
cubexyz	in the olden days there was vga16fb	Oct 31 09:15
msb_	ok but the doc seems to say the FB is running underneath X, and X is utilizing the FB	Oct 31 09:15
cubexyz	no, you can run a framebuffer without using X	Oct 31 09:17
cubexyz	let's say you wanted to look at some jpegs, but X wasn't available	Oct 31 09:17
msb_	I understand that, but when X is running, is it doing its work via the FB?	Oct 31 09:17
cubexyz	you could still load vga16fb or radeonfb or somethingfb and look at jpegs	Oct 31 09:17
cubexyz	nope :)	Oct 31 09:18
cubexyz	you can also run X and the simple kernel text console, without any graphics capability	Oct 31 09:18
msb_	So this quote is wrong? "the X server works completely on /dev/fb*"	Oct 31 09:18
cubexyz	run lsof and see if /dev/fb* is open	Oct 31 09:19
cubexyz	I'm sure it isn't	Oct 31 09:19
cubexyz	maybe that was true a long time ago, I'm not sure	Oct 31 09:19
cubexyz	try: lsof \| grep dev	Oct 31 09:20
cubexyz	or lsof \| grep /dev/fb	Oct 31 09:20
cubexyz	it won't match anything	Oct 31 09:21
msb_	lsof \| grep -i dev/fb doesn't match anything.	Oct 31 09:21
cubexyz	some of the linux documentation could be really out of date	Oct 31 09:21
cubexyz	right, that's as expected	Oct 31 09:22
cubexyz	you can run a framebuffer without X, and you can run X without a framebuffer	Oct 31 09:22
msb_	So now X accesses the graphic card or chip directly?	Oct 31 09:22
cubexyz	no	Oct 31 09:23
msb_	not thru the FB?	Oct 31 09:23
cubexyz	not directly... it uses radeon.ko or some device driver	Oct 31 09:23
cubexyz	depending on your hardware of course	Oct 31 09:23
cubexyz	if you do a lsmod you could be able to see if you have a framebuffer module loaded	Oct 31 09:25
msb_	nothing with fb or fram	Oct 31 09:26
cubexyz	if so you could do stuff like: fbset 800x600-80 to set the text console video mode	Oct 31 09:26
cubexyz	ok, then you are using the kernel text console	Oct 31 09:26
msb_	so when using the text console, X is suspended, and vice versa.	Oct 31 09:26
cubexyz	X loses control of the video stuff at that point, it's still running of course	Oct 31 09:27
msb_	that's why the fb resolution is different from the X resolution	Oct 31 09:27
cubexyz	right :)	Oct 31 09:27
cubexyz	strictly speaking the text console isn't really text mode	Oct 31 09:28
msb_	Great! Thanks!	Oct 31 09:28
cubexyz	it's usually set to 640x480 and 80x25 characters	Oct 31 09:28
msb_	mine is 800x600	Oct 31 09:28
cubexyz	you can even watch movies on the framebuffer	Oct 31 09:29
cubexyz	it's slower though	Oct 31 09:29
cubexyz	fbset 640x480-80 would be 640x480 resolution with 80 hz refresh rate	Oct 31 09:29
msb_	so using fb I could port over all my old graphics programs from pcdos, because it would be just like writing to the memory-mapped graphic card I used to have	Oct 31 09:32
msb_	If I set the rez and mode right.	Oct 31 09:33
cubexyz	most kernels use the generic VESA framebuffer driver	Oct 31 09:34
cubexyz	so you would be limited to VESA modes	Oct 31 09:34
cubexyz	I would probably just use freedos or rewrite your programs for X11	Oct 31 09:35
cubexyz	merely a suggestion	Oct 31 09:35
cubexyz	of course there's dosbox and xdosemu and you could just run stuff that way	Oct 31 09:36
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cubexyz	I have a quick-c setup for writing dos programs still and it runs fine under dosbox	Oct 31 09:37
cubexyz	but with freedos your programs would run at super speed :)	Oct 31 09:38
msb_	can't I load a kernel module to enable fb to work at 1920x1080, the rez of my screen?	Oct 31 09:38
cubexyz	yes, you should be able to do that	Oct 31 09:39
msb_	what would it be called?	Oct 31 09:39
cubexyz	look at man fbset	Oct 31 09:40
cubexyz	you would need to load some LKM as well	Oct 31 09:40
cubexyz	the fbset docs might be really out of date	Oct 31 09:41
cubexyz	ls	Oct 31 09:42
msb_	LKM = loadable kernel module ?	Oct 31 09:42
cubexyz	yes	Oct 31 09:42
cubexyz	try locate vga16fb and then cd to that directory	Oct 31 09:43
cubexyz	/lib/modules/some-version-of-kernel/kernel/drivers/video	Oct 31 09:43
cubexyz	you should see a bunch of ko files	Oct 31 09:44
cubexyz	it could be in a subdirectory	Oct 31 09:46
msb_	ah yes, nvidia/nvidiafb.ko	Oct 31 09:47
msb_	Do you switch between text and graphic mode on the fb, or is there a separate text input channel which just enters text at the bottom and scrolls up?	Oct 31 09:49
cubexyz	ok, not sure what you mean but the chvt command can change to any terminal	Oct 31 09:53
cubexyz	you can ctrl-alt-2 and login and then you have a text (possibly framebuffer)	Oct 31 09:54
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cubexyz	it's really always graphical though	Oct 31 09:55
cubexyz	in the old days there was MDA which was true text mode	Oct 31 09:55
cubexyz	once you have the LKM loaded and you're logged in to another terminal you can do: fbset --info	Oct 31 09:56
cubexyz	that will give you more info	Oct 31 09:56
cubexyz	if things don't line up well you can pan around with: fbset -move left or right as needed	Oct 31 09:58
cubexyz	I think once you do run somethingfb it does open /dev/fb0 or something like that	Oct 31 10:01
cubexyz	I should warn you... it's quite possible to bork up the framebuffer	Oct 31 10:02
cubexyz	you might want to set up a separate machine just to play around with the framebuffer	Oct 31 10:02
cubexyz	technically I don't think the framebuffer module opens /dev/fb0 until you run something that needs it	Oct 31 10:03
cubexyz	you can even run the framebuffer in init 1	Oct 31 10:10
cubexyz	proof positive that the framebuffer module doesn't need X to work and doesn't "run under" X	Oct 31 10:10
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msb_	cubexyz: Many thanks! I will save this dialog for possible future fb usage. I think I will first try putting up graphics in X using qt or qt-ruby or whatever, so my programs don't have to take up the entire screen.	Oct 31 10:22
msb_	And no chance of borking things up. Only have the one machine.	Oct 31 10:23
cubexyz	it's better to learn X11 I'd say	Oct 31 10:27
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cubexyz	there could be an advantage to running the a machine with a framebuffer without X	Oct 31 10:28
cubexyz	one could optimize a machine for just video playback	Oct 31 10:28
cubexyz	X is more versatile though	Oct 31 10:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/660464416778002432	Oct 31 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: but is unable to articulate a single specific problem that lack of #SafeHarbour will cause other than inconvenience https://t.co/BlkBZYwvJI		Oct 31 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A think tank from the US wants #europe to "compromise" on #privacy https://t.co/PtPU6nrG7n		Oct 31 10:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660465702525116416	Oct 31 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: Sorry for being dense, but your paranoia is showing. What is "clear"? https://t.co/LfrUoKYQgI		Oct 31 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: See the #epo "ADMINISTRATIVE COUNCIL" sections https://t.co/DT6QJiuhDI clearly covering up abuse https://t.co/CMIUWvePoB		Oct 31 10:39
schestowitz	AC has not been doing anything to question the EPO's abuses, e.g. ignoring court orders	Oct 31 10:39
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6764699	Oct 31 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Law Enforcement: Traveling From Anywhere To Anywhere Is Suspicious Behavior https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151030/07031932676/law-enforcement-traveling-anywhere-to-anywhere-is-suspicious-behavior.shtml don't carry tracking device, aka "mobile"		Oct 31 10:49
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Rebastion/status/660474018944983040	Oct 31 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Rebastion: But our own spies are fine? https://t.co/oZnUXi8bMR		Oct 31 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Schools given warning after 'Safe Harbour' ruling https://t.co/OoaxS6hFhC and rightly so, stop selling our data to foreign spies		Oct 31 11:12
schestowitz	Small British companies aren't (yet at least) compelled to hand over data to #gchq - no British #cisa	Oct 31 11:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz That's not "stigma", it's stereotype. :)		Oct 31 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: #cybercyber stockstock infotainment junk https://t.co/FAvOh9dUSF		Oct 31 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Did you know that "hackers" work with green screens and Matrix-inspired themes? Here's the stigma perpetuated: https://t.co/s0R6a0TjBY		Oct 31 12:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660492225411997696	Oct 31 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: How do you know? https://t.co/XgwDs8xC5E		Oct 31 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @BoffJim AC has not been doing anything to question the EPO's abuses, e.g. ignoring court orders		Oct 31 12:24
schestowitz	I have been following this closely and writing about it	Oct 31 12:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660496377710059520	Oct 31 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: I'd noticed. https://t.co/CQ3kNsMnJp		Oct 31 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @BoffJim I have been following this closely and writing about it		Oct 31 12:51
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/660507663428489217	Oct 31 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Can anyone provide a link to the actual TEXT of the 29 Oct 2015 resolution itself? Your links lead to Press Release. https://t.co/VayFGRzASS		Oct 31 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #europe "resolution is unlikely to help @Snowden anytime soon. " https://t.co/LmWhVyjkMZ too much pressure on polticians		Oct 31 13:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/660510156321492992	Oct 31 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fanless Pico-ITXe SBC runs Linux on quad-core	Oct 31 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Eden X4 https://t.co/X0BbCh0sIs	Oct 31 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 31 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7yeu	Oct 31 13:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions...'		Oct 31 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available...'		Oct 31 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory...'		Oct 31 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon, Cinnamon...'		Oct 31 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS...'		Oct 31 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Pinguy Builder Review - Build Your Own Ubuntu...'		Oct 31 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.destructoid.com \| Twitch users will attempt to install Linux together		Oct 31 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch does Linux https://t.co/m0sxneQkab	Oct 31 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 15:20
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schestowitz	[12:28] <Pinguinpat> Something on the word "sloeber" in this context it actuality means a opportunist who gets away with things. But make no mistake: a few seconds later the right person calls Battistelli a horrible manipulative bastard with blood on his hand being responsible for the suicide of 5 employees.	Oct 31 15:22
schestowitz	Ah	Oct 31 15:22
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schestowitz	[01:10] <XFaCE> [20:07:21]<schestowitz> just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 15:23
schestowitz	[01:11] <XFaCE> where do you get those meme photos?	Oct 31 15:23
schestowitz	[01:11] <XFaCE> the epo head in a tank :P	Oct 31 15:23
schestowitz	It's a Soviet tank launcher	Oct 31 15:23
schestowitz	I got it free on stock exchange, an Hungarian site	Oct 31 15:23
schestowitz	had to use GIMP	Oct 31 15:23
schestowitz	[19:23] <schestowitz> It's a Soviet tank launcher	Oct 31 15:24
schestowitz	I meant scud launcher	Oct 31 15:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@OpenTechSource Latest from the source, The Open Source Daily	Oct 31 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	is out! https://t.co/3kRGAffI5N (paper.li)	Oct 31 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	#OpenSource Articles via @TheBitCoinForum	Oct 31 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines	Oct 31 16:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's	Oct 31 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by What's New https://t.co/myVcKmwDu8	Oct 31 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 a GO, KDE Not So Much	Oct 31 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yFcjD5Zjma (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU Hurd 0.7 & GNU Mach 1.6 Released	Oct 31 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SYD3PTJI9O (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 packages now live	Oct 31 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TrKnZx9Ml7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 19:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Devices https://t.co/osF9J58Akv	Oct 31 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 19:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/eY5X0SBjoi	Oct 31 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 19:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/Dv64pquqBV	Oct 31 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on: Kernel, Graphics	Oct 31 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YWckjfbta4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/fANo6J9D8j	Oct 31 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active	Oct 31 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring	Oct 31 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	@ITManagersTB https://t.co/pPfOIEJ6hE (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 21:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 31/10/2015: Twitch's Arch Linux	Oct 31 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge, GNOME 3.19.1 https://t.co/RXFkOEWaWL	Oct 31 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Oct 31 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7z6l	Oct 31 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Upgrade From Ubuntu 15.04/14.10 To	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10 'Wily Werewolf'	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FOLQWHWa0G (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines POLL - Have You Upgraded To Ubuntu 15.10?	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9HH31in7Rg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/KPKnPntP5n	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/7stWdrIXoG	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla News https://t.co/LCSnDLT1OA	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: BSD https://t.co/Itp5LjghLz	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6hr3	Oct 25 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Razer Opens OSVR Hacker Development Kit	Oct 25 01:15
TweetTuxMachines	Pre-Orders to General Public	Oct 25 01:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Cazq5el4j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 01:15
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 25 03:16
TweetTuxMachines	@debianupdate The linuxdebian Daily is out!	Oct 25 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KWz4Q3EkKR (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 25 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	@thaliaro24 @tuxmachines @SSF_de	Oct 25 03:42
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cubexyz	I'm getting some strange stuff in the httpd logs	Oct 25 03:55
cubexyz	Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE or Firefox mutant; not on Windows server;)	Oct 25 03:56
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cubexyz	Ford dumped Microsoft... went with QNX	Oct 25 08:31
cubexyz	"Why the MyFord Touch Control System Stinks"	Oct 25 08:33
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/evolution-of-microsoft.png	Oct 25 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	@debianupdate The linuxdebian Daily is out!	Oct 25 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/KWz4Q3EkKR (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 25 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	@thaliaro24 @thaliaro24 @tuxmachines @SSF_de	Oct 25 08:57
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msb_	cubexyz: There are billions of computers on the planet, and your server is open to all of them. Why are you checking your httpd logs?	Oct 25 09:47
cubexyz	I'm always checking things	Oct 25 09:47
cubexyz	the httpd logs show new types of attacks, I like to be aware of what the bad guys are up to	Oct 25 09:48
cubexyz	here's a new one:	Oct 25 09:48
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/new-hack-attempts.txt	Oct 25 09:48
msb_	There is only one Linux distro that has a large, modern software base, lots of admins to keep it up, and doesn't use systemd, and that is Devuan.	Oct 25 09:49
cubexyz	always check the logs	Oct 25 09:49
cubexyz	what about slackware?	Oct 25 09:49
msb_	Isn't that source-based? You have to compile everything?	Oct 25 09:50
cubexyz	nope	Oct 25 09:50
msb_	How many admins?	Oct 25 09:50
msb_	wiki: latest release two years ago	Oct 25 09:52
cubexyz	I don't know how many people work on it	Oct 25 09:52
msb_	http://www.slackware.com/ Latest release 14.1 2013-11-07	Oct 25 09:54
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cubexyz	yeah I am a bit worried about Linux, that's why I work on OpenBSD and Plan 9	Oct 25 09:54
cubexyz	I could ask the same questions about Devuan... how many people work on that?	Oct 25 09:55
msb_	How up to date are those?	Oct 25 09:55
cubexyz	OpenBSD released 5.8 two days ago :)	Oct 25 09:55
cubexyz	Plan 9 is stagnant, nothing really new since 2002	Oct 25 09:56
cubexyz	more of a research/experiment thing	Oct 25 09:56
msb_	Does OpenBSD have the latest Linux video editors and such?	Oct 25 09:56
cubexyz	it's got lives, I've never tried it	Oct 25 09:57
msb_	lives?	Oct 25 09:58
cubexyz	http://lives-video.com	Oct 25 09:58
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cubexyz	btw, is Devuan ready?	Oct 25 09:59
cubexyz	I don't see any iso's or anything yet	Oct 25 10:00
cubexyz	I have to be somewhat careful, as I have a lot of 32-bit machines to consider	Oct 25 10:01
msb_	They're hoping for beta soon.	Oct 25 10:01
cubexyz	for server, I would definitely say go openbsd	Oct 25 10:02
msb_	I suggested on #devuan that the two huge Debian data sources they depend on (see bottom of devuan.org homepage) be backed up by Devuan people, so in case they become unavailable due to political pressure from systemd forces, Devuan can continue.	Oct 25 10:03
msb_	All I got was ridicule -- "illuminati" "lunchtime is more important".	Oct 25 10:04
cubexyz	hmmm, really... that's a shame	Oct 25 10:04
msb_	Trying to talk to most people about the actualities of world politics -- it's like they're under post-hypnotic suggestion. They are _unable_ to think about it.	Oct 25 10:05
msb_	That	Oct 25 10:06
msb_	That's the result of the US corporate "news" propaganda system -- The CIA Mighty Wurlitzer as it was called decades ago.	Oct 25 10:07
msb_	People _are_ effectively under post-hypnotic suggestion.	Oct 25 10:07
cubexyz	at least nowadays everyone can have their own soapbox or blog or whatever	Oct 25 10:08
msb_	But the Internet runs on Linux, and Linux is now controlled by systemd. Devuan is the hope of the world for maintaing the humanity's communication system. And Devuan is run by zombies. They told me to take the discussion to another channel, where it wouldn't be heard by anyone influential over Devuan.	Oct 25 10:10
cubexyz	what is it now: GE, News-Corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS?	Oct 25 10:10
msb_	Fpx	Oct 25 10:10
msb_	Fox	Oct 25 10:10
cubexyz	owned by News-Corp :)	Oct 25 10:10
msb_	figures	Oct 25 10:11
cubexyz	ABC owned by Disney	Oct 25 10:11
msb_	What about Comcast?	Oct 25 10:11
cubexyz	owned by GE :)	Oct 25 10:12
cubexyz	there's probably some small-fry though, not owned by those 6 companies	Oct 25 10:13
cubexyz	but those 6 account for 90% of the media market	Oct 25 10:13
msb_	RT has great programming!	Oct 25 10:14
cubexyz	GE also owns NBC	Oct 25 10:14
cubexyz	of course that's US, in Canada things are a lot different	Oct 25 10:16
cubexyz	in theory, the CRTC says whether or not media companies can merge	Oct 25 10:17
msb_	RT has Thom Hartmann, Tyrel Ventura, Jesse Ventura, Max Keiser, George Galloway, and a great show called Crosstalk.	Oct 25 10:17
cubexyz	I think we have stricter rules about the media market	Oct 25 10:17
cubexyz	is it just http://rt.com ?	Oct 25 10:18
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msb_	CRT Controller 8^)	Oct 25 10:18
msb_	I get RT on TV cable!	Oct 25 10:18
cubexyz	it's available here too, but I haven't subscribed to it	Oct 25 10:19
cubexyz	I just have bare bones Satellite TV with a couple of extra channels	Oct 25 10:19
msb_	https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Canada/#where-to-watch__form	Oct 25 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Canada/#where-to-watch__form )		Oct 25 10:20
cubexyz	but do they transmit unencrypted?	Oct 25 10:21
cubexyz	probably not, but you never know	Oct 25 10:21
msb_	I watch it on my computer cable-tv card.	Oct 25 10:21
msb_	Via comcast. I think its in the cheapest channel selection.	Oct 25 10:22
msb_	The set-top box info just says "RT News -- Leased	Oct 25 10:24
cubexyz	yeah there's barely anything FTA now on satellite	Oct 25 10:25
msb_	F-ck The Army?	Oct 25 10:25
cubexyz	Free to Air	Oct 25 10:25
cubexyz	not encrypted	Oct 25 10:26
msb_	Only problem with RT is they don't show their schedule, so you just have to take pot luck. Usually they alternate half hour of news and half hour of some particular show. https://www.rt.com/shows/	Oct 25 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| Shows — RT		Oct 25 10:28
cubexyz	I wonder if maxemum still works, I haven't used it in a while	Oct 25 10:29
msb_	That page has links to all the show pages, and each one links to the most recent episodes, which can be downloaded with the latest youtube-dl.	Oct 25 10:29
msb_	big momma?	Oct 25 10:29
cubexyz	remember maxemumtvguide?	Oct 25 10:31
cubexyz	it was a KDE thing	Oct 25 10:31
cubexyz	looks like it still works	Oct 25 10:32
msb_	I use http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/	Oct 25 10:32
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cubexyz	that's basically what maxemumtvguide uses	Oct 25 10:32
msb_	It used to be good, then they ruined it, now they've restored most of the previous features.	Oct 25 10:34
msb_	Like movie release dates and actors.	Oct 25 10:35
msb_	And the ability to see the evening schedule even after midnight.	Oct 25 10:35
msb_	maxemum is not in the KDE3 repo for suse 11.4	Oct 25 10:38
cubexyz	you might have to compile from source tarball	Oct 25 10:38
cubexyz	I have a pre-compiled binary if you want to try it	Oct 25 10:39
cubexyz	you'll also need mc2xml to make it work	Oct 25 10:40
msb_	looks like I was messing with it last year, and it's from 2007	Oct 25 10:40
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msb_	Thanks. zap2it is ok for now. It give season and episode numbers for series shows, so I can find them in naughty places.	Oct 25 10:43
msb_	YIFY has been off the air for nearly a week.	Oct 25 10:46
msb_	Maybe a SWAT team kicked down the door and machine-gunned everybody. Wouldn't put it past the copyright industry.	Oct 25 10:48
msb_	https://www.reddit.com/r/torrents/comments/3plq22/is_ytsto_down/ Says they got "Dosed" and will be up in a few days.	Oct 25 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Is yts.to down? : torrents [ http://ur1.ca/o6mof ]		Oct 25 10:52
cubexyz	maxemumtvguide needs a bit of patience	Oct 25 10:57
cubexyz	but it works ok once you figure out it's quirks	Oct 25 10:57
msb_	They think Paramount and Sony attacked their servers. But I don't know how a DOS attack would kill a site once the attack was IP-blocked.	Oct 25 10:58
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msb_	Maybe they were actually hacked.	Oct 25 10:59
cubexyz	well you know what they say about that...	Oct 25 11:08
cubexyz	Hail, Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a limb, and two more shall take its place!	Oct 25 11:08
cubexyz	:)	Oct 25 11:08
msb_	Is that from Marvel SHIELD?	Oct 25 11:09
cubexyz	actually they are the bad guys	Oct 25 11:10
cubexyz	they fight SHIELD :)	Oct 25 11:10
msb_	I know, I watch it.	Oct 25 11:10
cubexyz	just replace Hydra with systemd or linux or whatever :)	Oct 25 11:11
msb_	Isn't there an old saying about the Internet routes its way around all obstacles?	Oct 25 11:11
cubexyz	yes	Oct 25 11:11
msb_	We are living in _very_ interesting times!	Oct 25 11:11
cubexyz	Hail, Linux! Immortal Linux! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a distro, and two more shall take its place!	Oct 25 11:12
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msb_	I sure hope!	Oct 25 11:13
cubexyz	well the torrents definitely haven't stopped	Oct 25 11:14
msb_	Ever see Outer Limits 1995 S04E16 Final Exam? A physics student solves cold fusion and makes a bomb.	Oct 25 11:15
cubexyz	nope, haven't really watched anything in some time	Oct 25 11:16
msb_	It is so good! But rather brutal.	Oct 25 11:17
schestowitz	>>> "many of the machines are running an embedded version	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >> of Windows XP"	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >>	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.wired.com/2015/09/dismal-state-americas-decade-old-voting-machines/	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >>	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >> Inherently insecure and designed for fraud.	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>> > Indeed, that's what I often worry about when it comes to Tor.	Oct 25 11:32
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schestowitz	> Do you think it might be worth it to put up a Tor Hidden Service after	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	> you have HTTPS? Or would people try to use Tor on top of some pwned	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	> Windows machine?	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	Tor is slow to use, but it has its uses ;-)	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/10/25/techrights-doc-drop/	Oct 25 11:32
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schestowitz	> Nice, but using IRC gives a way a metric fuckton of information	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> publicly. No need (or desire) to give TR opponents a heads-up warning.	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> I'm no expert but I'd even look at crap like mailinator, instead, over	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> Tor. With that, they could at least (manually) use PGP. Tails has an	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> OpenPGP client. It also has a mail client, should the whistleblower	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> have enough savvy to use a formal mail service anonymously.	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	The EPO and CRG already monitor our IRC, so we're not giving them anything that they don't already have.	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> Not sure if this is of interest to you but we are passing it on for what it might be worth.	Oct 25 12:24
schestowitz	> We know that the main focus of your interest relates to so-called "software patents". However, that is not the only area where the EPO's practices are coming under fire.	Oct 25 12:24
schestowitz	> We are not experts in the area of "plant patents" so we will refrain from trying to comment in detail. We just wanted to direct your attention to some relevant coverage of this topic from various sources in case it might be of interest.	Oct 25 12:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fpietrosanti/status/658262526426222593	Oct 25 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fpietrosanti: @schestowitz You may wish to try @GlobaLeaks that’s being used also by anticorruption NGOs,public agencies,activists and citizen journalists		Oct 25 13:09
msb_	http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-foods/indian-farmers-committing-suicide-monsanto-gm-crops/	Oct 25 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com \| Indian Farmers Committing Suicide as a Result of Monsanto's GM Crops		Oct 25 13:18
msb_	There have been many reports over the years from Western farmers who had not planted GMO seeds, but had had their crops contaminated by pollen from neighboring farms, whereupon Monsanto did a genetic analysis of their crop and demand payment for seeds that had never been used.	Oct 25 13:25
msb_	Oops. The neighboring farms were using GMO seeds.	Oct 25 13:26
msb_	IIRC there have also been cases of corporations patenting entirely natural seeds, of plants that had been growing wild or cultivated for thousands of years, and using governments to force farmers to pay a fee to grow those plants.	Oct 25 13:29
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MinceR	http://www.technologyreview.com/view/542626/why-self-driving-cars-must-be-programmed-to-kill/	Oct 25 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com \| Why Self-Driving Cars Must Be Programmed to Kill \| MIT Technology Review		Oct 25 14:04
XFaCE	MinceR: dafuq	Oct 25 14:05
MinceR	:)	Oct 25 14:05
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cubexyz	just set the autocars to go really slow :)	Oct 25 14:51
cubexyz	it's a BS article, actually	Oct 25 14:54
cubexyz	I've never been in any of the ridiculous situations mentioned in that article	Oct 25 14:54
cubexyz	autocars will be a lot safer than what we currently have	Oct 25 14:54
MinceR	the point is that there are ethical considerations to programming them	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	and there are many ways to fail	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	like prefer the occupants' lives -> backlash	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	prefer outside people's lives -> nobody will want to buy or use the self-driving cars	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	though i think that the current state of the software industry is more reason for worry	Oct 25 15:24
MinceR	no quality, no care for quality	Oct 25 15:24
MinceR	companies like m$, crApple and redcrap being in charge	Oct 25 15:24
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cubexyz	it's not even good enough to do that though	Oct 25 15:27
cubexyz	is there a child in the middle of a road? is it a sheep? a barrel? a dummy?	Oct 25 15:27
cubexyz	the car would have to have HAL-like intelligence	Oct 25 15:28
cubexyz	at best it will sense there's an obstacle to not hit	Oct 25 15:29
cubexyz	probably by braking	Oct 25 15:29
cubexyz	it's not going to decide, hey it's drive into a wall instead of hitting those 10 people in the middle of the road	Oct 25 15:30
cubexyz	s/it's/let's/	Oct 25 15:30
cubexyz	it's a false dilemma	Oct 25 15:31
MinceR	indeed, if it can't identify objects precisely, it can't come close to solving ethical dilemmas	Oct 25 15:31
cubexyz	get all pedestrians to wear sensors, that might work	Oct 25 15:32
cubexyz	I don't think it would be too hard to improve on the current system we have now	Oct 25 15:33
MinceR	lol	Oct 25 15:33
MinceR	and then we can track all pedestrians remotely	Oct 25 15:33
MinceR	and even disable sensors remotely to cause "accidents" :>	Oct 25 15:33
cubexyz	I thought they were already tracking them via mobile phones	Oct 25 15:33
cubexyz	well, it's better than drunk humans at least	Oct 25 15:34
MinceR	there's no threat of cars running into you for not carrying a mobile phone yet, though	Oct 25 15:35
cubexyz	I think there's 1.3 million deaths world-wide in road crashes per year	Oct 25 15:35
cubexyz	that's a lot	Oct 25 15:39
cubexyz	I see bad driving all the time too	Oct 25 15:41
cubexyz	just gunning it down the street I live on	Oct 25 15:42
MinceR	so do i	Oct 25 15:54
-NickServ-schestowitz!~roy@host86-134-167-166.range86-134.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)		Oct 25 15:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/forgettalktalk/status/658304586877263873	Oct 25 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@forgettalktalk: IF YOU'RE A #TALKTALK CUSTOMER & WANT TO JOIN A GROUP TO FIGHT FOR COMPENSATION READ: https://t.co/I3JtUYzxM0 RT https://t.co/Gb4TQl78W7		Oct 25 16:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #talktalk is now paying for advertising (in football breaks) that's just lousy 'damage control' after they got cracked. That's where $ goes?		Oct 25 16:00
schestowitz	they got cracked	Oct 25 16:00
schestowitz	wonder if they used Windows	Oct 25 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU LibreJS 6.0.10 released	Oct 25 16:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ugntvhcTSV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:15
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__martin__	geekings	Oct 25 16:30
__martin__	seems like on 28th of the October the start of the "2016 - 2019 Joint Strategic Plan on Intellectual Property Enforcement" [sic] by U.S. will get decided for good or worse	Oct 25 16:31
__martin__	Aurous (aurous.me) is appealing RIAA suit	Oct 25 16:32
__martin__	meanwhile the (in)famous Popcorn-Time (used to be popcorntime.io) got wiped out of the net with devs scattering here and there (most probably under direct threat from MAFIAA =)	Oct 25 16:33
__martin__	there is some https://butterproject.github.io/ thou.. we shall see if http://techdirt.com/ aka Mr. Moody comes up with some reports in the weeks coming	Oct 25 16:34
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__martin__	no wonder RMS and the FSF comes up with https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html =P // in the age of DMCA GitHub's takedowns	Oct 25 16:34
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__martin__	MinceR: how's your systemd-less journey going?	Oct 25 16:35
__martin__	btw, I gave a try to this openSUSE Leap distro based on SLES (whis is used by European Space Agency / with SLED desktops maybe as well)	Oct 25 16:37
XRevan86	__martin__: and?	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	well, you should have seen their KDE Frameworks 5 & Plasma 5 combo.. :_D	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	like 7 items in KDE's system-settings GUI	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	segfaulted whole app xD	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	[never happened on Kubuntu]	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	and then	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A History of Android Market Share: How Google's	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	Mobile Operating System Dominated the Globe	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LxnifY8p4y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel oops collector is back in Debian!	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3TiAGeeGq6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:39
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__martin__	I decided to wipe out their / btrfs partition with gparted from bunsen labs (community continuacy of crunchbang) liveusb	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/lgaURXqRzj	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:39
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__martin__	guess what	Oct 25 16:39
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__martin__	first the Xubuntu installer coudn't wipe that partition from Ubiquity and format it with ext4	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	then I tried the aforementioned gparted and it said O.K.	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	but that bloody bootstrapped SUSE was still there :D	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	it took the third time to get rid of it	Oct 25 16:41
__martin__	..	Oct 25 16:41
__martin__	it was Release Candidate.. well they made a leap, giant leap for the mankind ;D	Oct 25 16:41
__martin__	also folks	Oct 25 16:42
__martin__	beware that nvidia's blob switch to proper modesetting modules	Oct 25 16:42
__martin__	Xorg at certain configurations won't load and one has to dig into configs	Oct 25 16:43
__martin__	enjoy some nice tunes :)	Oct 25 16:57
__martin__	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTA0DSfrGZ0&index=9&list=PL2vpKU4b5J1Sxd1GkL4HLTv1WyFzgHUSs	Oct 25 16:57
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schestowitz	__martin__: hi	Oct 25 16:58
schestowitz	__martin__: the latest release of kubuntu fixed things for me, but I found a serious installer bug	Oct 25 16:59
schestowitz	managed to get around it in the CLI	Oct 25 16:59
schestowitz	[16:33] <__martin__> there is some https://butterproject.github.io/ thou.. we shall see if http://techdirt.com/ aka Mr. Moody comes up with some reports in the weeks coming	Oct 25 17:00
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schestowitz	Did he tell you?	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	UK gov. actually banned the software itself	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	and linking to it	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	it's free software	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	hence unprecedented	Oct 25 17:00
__martin__	schestowitz: glyn did not said, it's just my assumption	Oct 25 17:00
__martin__	UK ISPs seem to censor a lot more than the european subsidiaries of Deutche Telekom	Oct 25 17:01
__martin__	say*	Oct 25 17:01
__martin__	what sort of bug you experienced roy? the same one with partitioner or	Oct 25 17:03
schestowitz	no	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	scanner library	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	throwing a dialogue	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	which crashed the python installer	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	sane	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	other people in irc reported something which potentially is similar	Oct 25 17:11
schestowitz	tried to file a bug report	Oct 25 17:11
schestowitz	but it's a mess	Oct 25 17:11
schestowitz	hopefully they read irc (the devs)	Oct 25 17:11
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__martin__	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/25/us-talktalk-cyberattack-idUSKCN0SJ0OY20151025	Oct 25 17:14
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__martin__	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TalkTalk_Group	Oct 25 17:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel oops collector is back in Debian!	Oct 25 18:17
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MinceR	__martin__: i still haven't installed anything newer than wheezy-derived stuff on any of my boxen	Oct 25 18:20
MinceR	i'll probably start with devuan beta or bedrock nyla, when one of those gets released :>	Oct 25 18:24
MinceR	or netbsd, when i feel like it	Oct 25 18:55
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cubexyz	MinceR, did you see the special upgrade to windows 10 for kids?	Oct 25 19:03
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 25 19:03
MinceR	stasi, home edition?	Oct 25 19:03
MinceR	lol, i haven't seen this one	Oct 25 19:03
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MinceR	i knew this one: http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html	Oct 25 19:04
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cubexyz	might be time for the DOJ to step in again	Oct 25 19:09
__martin__	pro-nato army of my country is doing some recruitment for cheap labour, understand click monkeys and best brainwash candidates for their programmes and "special undergrads"	Oct 25 19:10
__martin__	my father pissed me off with this one	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	after whole 24yrs he does not know that his son is anti-state anti-war	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	</rl_rants>	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	:D	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	he buys himself a book about ex-reykjavik mayor with anarchist background and does not learn the moral from it	Oct 25 19:13
__martin__	(chilling effect of being raised under deep socialism and patriarchal mother)	Oct 25 19:14
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cubexyz	this is rather a small point given all the other bad things but Windows 10 is back to setting it's own browser as default	Oct 25 19:17
cubexyz	not to mention all the wasted bandwidth with forced updates	Oct 25 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/y8anAwbpfe	Oct 25 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	(lkml.iu.edu) #kernel #linux	Oct 25 19:27
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schestowitz	[17:14] <__martin__> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/25/us-talktalk-cyberattack-idUSKCN0SJ0OY20151025	Oct 25 19:38
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schestowitz	LOL BAUE	Oct 25 19:38
schestowitz	BAE=army	Oct 25 19:38
cubexyz	http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html	Oct 25 19:39
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cubexyz	there's pretty much a straight to NSA policy with windows	Oct 25 19:40
cubexyz	I'd say we've stepped into Big Brother territory	Oct 25 19:43
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy:	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> Thank you for another fine article, telling it like it is!	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> thttp://techrights.org/2015/10/22/all-things-open-hijacked/	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> But in it, note this typo:	Oct 25 19:49
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schestowitz	> In "What should even organisers do in this situation?",	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> change "even"	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> to "event".	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	I shall correct this immediately, thank you!	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	"v"	Oct 25 19:53
schestowitz	"Presumably because everyone here cares about privacy and security, or other problems that may involve privacy and security. Because that's why they are here in the first place :-) but that's logical. And which topic is your personal favourite? Security?"	Oct 25 19:53
schestowitz	GNU/Linux	Oct 25 19:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DragonBox Pyra Linux Based Gaming Plus Console	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	Emulation Available To Pre-Order Now	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V47awlSp70 (hacked.news)	Oct 25 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On to Fedora 23 and New Tools	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PDhIFWJiSt (dissociatedpress.net)	Oct 25 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: What the Phones Are Going	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	to Look Like https://t.co/DN3zeUr50Y	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cheatsheet.com)	Oct 25 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Behind the scenes of the KDE Phone HIG – Part	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Two: The HIG creation process	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sU8UWmACO3	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(sessellift.wordpress.com)	Oct 25 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SlimPort Nano Console turns your Android	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	smartphone into a set-top box	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qaKDrvpN3j (www.geek.com)	Oct 25 20:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/658377251143159808	Oct 25 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz Established filmmakers are turning more and more 1984. They should be attacked viciously by everyone defending true freedom.		Oct 25 20:39
schestowitz	"Fair enough. I guess we all are, more or less. And it's a good thing. Today some updates crashed my GUI (the whole OS wasn't booting properly, GUI wasn't booting at all), so I had to reinstall it. with no live USB or DVDs. Just with built-in tools. Nobody's gonna do that on windows, at least in customer builds. And it's a lot of fun as well. If you are doing something to save yourself, you might as well have fun in the process :-) Sorry if	Oct 25 20:43
schestowitz	I talk too much, I'm just new here and don't people yet. Just a couple of guys."	Oct 25 20:43
schestowitz	From what I've read, Windows is actually more likely to become hosed and bricked than a decent GNU/Linux distro, even without outside help	Oct 25 20:43
MinceR	systemd will help with that	Oct 25 20:44
MinceR	wait, you said 'decen't	Oct 25 20:44
MinceR	s/n't/nt'/	Oct 25 20:44
MinceR	never mind :)	Oct 25 20:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6743372	Oct 25 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #brainwashing #television #consumerism #life #time #comic #comics		Oct 25 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by mara_lavdara@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_55cfd80fc621fdebd82c.jpg		Oct 25 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by mara_lavdara@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_55cfd80fc621fdebd82c.jpg		Oct 25 20:45
schestowitz	"I just want Diaspora to auto-collapse every long ass post. I don’t think this should be overly controversial."	Oct 25 20:45
schestowitz	"mhm, maybe yo (diaspora) need a button ‘show more’ ?! or,markdown knows [more]i think …"	Oct 25 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines iOS 9 vs Android 6.0: Images Depicts Close	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	Comparison Between Two Latest OS Available in	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	Market; Android 6.0 wins.	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cjeECEIuR4 (en.yibada.com)	Oct 25 20:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines John McAfee (yes, him) on security and Android	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mePKxO1hWg	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidcentral.com)	Oct 25 20:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Landry Breuil	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DxATFuF80q (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 20:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review of Fedora 23 https://t.co/l4o07uqInB	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 20:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review of Fedora 23 \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23: KDE vs. Xfce vs. GNOME vs. LXDE vs.	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	MATE https://t.co/kCWxLDTrSr (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r9r	Oct 25 20:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review of Fedora 23 https://t.co/Yau2WUAqm4	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.unixmen.com)	Oct 25 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com \| Review of Fedora 23 \| Unixmen		Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 11.0.4 Is Scattered With Fixes	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cAdRmozGZz (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Mesa 11.0.4 Is Scattered With Fixes - Phoronix		Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fresh Fedora 23 GNOME Shell Wayland Tests	Oct 25 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SoHQv6CoD4 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6rhg	Oct 25 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openmamba milestone3 https://t.co/aBPVSKrK8c	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	(openmamba.org)	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6rj1	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14 Has Been Released	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bE0MP7cx35 (linuxg.net)	Oct 25 21:18
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schestowitz	jono: good to hear you're in github, I have two accounts there	Oct 25 21:26
jono	thanks schestowitz!	Oct 25 21:26
jono	excited to get started!	Oct 25 21:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/658398380196925440	Oct 25 21:44
schestowitz	jono: my wife has an account there too, and she uses ubuntu with unity ;-p	Oct 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines External Screen Support For Unity 8 On Ubuntu	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Is Finally Near https://t.co/FGb5nytV4A	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HHVM News https://t.co/bKWIXAvgw1	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6s1r	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel https://t.co/Zazmd85bnj	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/QYtLbw4iai	Oct 26 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6tpa	Oct 26 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Games https://t.co/wKciAydC28	Oct 26 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 00:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hack: A free open source font for all reasons	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(but mainly for rendering source code)	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fFggKuCW4D (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjj	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	Called DoFlicky https://t.co/AXaWNUueZR	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjl	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 3D Graphics Library 11.0.4 Out Now with	Oct 26 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	Many Bugfixes https://t.co/gOVZNO16rs	Oct 26 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjm	Oct 26 04:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 3D Graphics Library 11.0.4 Out Now with...'		Oct 26 04:22
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msb_	cubexyz: Are you there?	Oct 26 06:45
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r_schestowitz	cubexyz: good news, someone just sent me http://cubexyz.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-web-is-gummed-up.html by email	Oct 26 09:25
r_schestowitz	so evidently some people follow the site	Oct 26 09:25
cubexyz	ha	Oct 26 09:29
cubexyz	msb_, I'm here now	Oct 26 09:29
cubexyz	just have to do a couple of chores	Oct 26 09:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool...'		Oct 26 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LabPlot 2.1.0 released https://t.co/kgOFxElAYQ	Oct 26 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	(labplot.sourceforge.net)	Oct 26 09:32
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cubexyz	and I do see a fair number of laptops that are broken due to heat damage	Oct 26 09:32
cubexyz	btw the all time stat for IE on my blog is a lowly 12%	Oct 26 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GUADEC 2016 https://t.co/yHyqu6vdXm	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	(permalink.gmane.org) Karlsruhe, Germany, will	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	host GUADEC in the summer of 2016."	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zio	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Android camera apps that can shoot raw photos	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/34WphUspwp (www.phonearena.com)	Oct 26 09:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value	Oct 26 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PGhaME7Lps (www.zdnet.com)	Oct 26 09:42
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cubexyz	I didn't just block Microsoft domains for adsense, but I also blocked gambling and betting sites	Oct 26 09:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FocusWriter 1.5.5 Brings Fixes	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ekwIk6eBq5 (linuxg.net)	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	"open-source and cross-plaftorm, working on	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	Linux"	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zow	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines History, the World, and KDE: Discovering Marble	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TmzJ6P697W	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com)	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zp1	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	Called DoFlicky https://t.co/nb25sRMyK3	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/zcB4eckSUa	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 09:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A troubleshooting process for Linux problems	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DXRXbIC5Iy (opensource.com)	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zru	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LFA (Linux For ALL) Distro Is Now Based on	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10, Debian 8.1, and Fluxbox	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tvYkpyMOzP (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	"Ubuntu-based LFA"	Oct 26 10:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux Update Brings New Kernels,	Oct 26 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox, Python, and Haskell	Oct 26 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6sN2hXJU5c (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 10:05
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cubexyz	lol...	Oct 26 10:19
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Oct 26 10:19
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/internet-troll.jpg	Oct 26 10:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Divinity Original Sin - Enhanced Edition	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Arrives on Linux in December	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/feBGw2GLlM (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 10:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Divinity Original Sin - Enhanced Edition Arrives on Linux in December - Softpedia		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Years After Wayland 1.0, Will 2016 Be The Year	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Of The Wayland Desktop? https://t.co/BR0EoRh2zv	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 10:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Years After Wayland 1.0, Will 2016 Be The Year Of The Wayland Desktop? - Phoronix		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	developer tools https://t.co/kHQBp0KXxQ	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced developer tools \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/syXdePIs39	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vYyNkFuP7O (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708z	Oct 26 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/I0XnJ31KZj	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
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cubexyz	autodesk does the subscription thing too	Oct 26 11:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/d3dJbDxgi8	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus'	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Budgie Desktop https://t.co/LpP2MWqDz0	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Oct 26 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Laura https://t.co/xOQLhGgcKt	Oct 26 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus’ Budgie Desktop \| Techrights		Oct 26 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	(krita.org)	Oct 26 11:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Interview with Laura \| Krita		Oct 26 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines G’MIC 1.6.7 (Standalone Software And GIMP	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	Plugin) Has Been Released	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/x4gJRH3U1M (linuxg.net)	Oct 26 11:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bQhukX8g3w (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 11:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I'm an artist who loves Linux	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Lh5fbYCWw (opensource.com)	Oct 26 11:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	developer tools https://t.co/dgkldHCua1	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cloudpro.co.uk)	Oct 26 11:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs - Softpedia		Oct 26 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Sreenivas Alapati: My Linux Story \| Opensource.com		Oct 26 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk \| Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced developer tools \| Cloud Pro		Oct 26 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Tools Could Bring Xubuntu, Lubuntu,	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	and Ubuntu Server to Raspberry Pi 2	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3XofG9dtiX (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 12:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE Tools Could Bring Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Ubuntu Server to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arch Linux 2015.10.01 ISO Image Brings Support	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux Kernel 4.2, More	Oct 26 12:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Arch Linux 2015.10.01 ISO Image Brings Support for Linux Kernel 4.2, More - Softpedia		Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	the Road the Size of Python 3	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uPyeVuVSBJ (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 12:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in the Road the Size of Python 3 - Softpedia		Oct 26 12:01
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus' Budgie Desktop...'		Oct 26 12:03
cubexyz	ok, trying to contact AMI again	Oct 26 12:07
*TweetTuxMachines @arindammanidas favourited 'Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a...'		Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	the Road the Size of Python 3	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tnE1oKOQvf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack: The good, the bad, and the ugly	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ftcwKyTbo2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I'm an artist who loves Linux	Oct 26 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Jgfcznrrwz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| I'm an artist who loves Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla props up its Open Source projects	Oct 26 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QcdgQJou9f (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla props up its Open Source projects \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized	Oct 26 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	Apps for Ubuntu with LXD	Oct 26 12:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7sPKmlBpQK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized Apps for Ubuntu with LXD \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 12:14
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/658617439073255424	Oct 26 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Rush is from a different part of the political spectrum than you but read this about donors, cronyism: https://t.co/anDEX2w3gp		Oct 26 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rushlimbaugh.com \| The Donor-Class Push: Make Paul Ryan Speaker (Get Rid of Trump, and Have Rubio or Jeb Win the White House) - The Rush Limbaugh Show		Oct 26 12:19
cubexyz	ok, today is BIOS study day	Oct 26 12:20
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6743813	Oct 26 12:31
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6744255	Oct 26 12:31
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6744019	Oct 26 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 26 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 26 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #newscorp #fox 'news' incites against #cuba by falsely claiming it helps #assad https://www.rt.com/usa/318712-syria-iran-cuba-rebels/ political shambles in media apparatus		Oct 26 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rt.com \| Iranians, Cubans and CIA-backed rebels: US media jumps on muddled Syria reports — RT USA		Oct 26 12:32
cubexyz	remember I talked about what would happen if the USB controller got hacked?	Oct 26 12:39
cubexyz	I conjectured it would be possible for all sorts of nasty things like keyloggers for usb keyboards	Oct 26 12:40
cubexyz	http://www.extremetech.com/computing/187279-undetectable-indefensible-security-flaw-found-in-usb-its-time-to-get-your-ps2-keyboard-out-of-the-cupboard	Oct 26 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com \| Massive, undetectable security flaw found in USB: It’s time to get your PS/2 keyboard out of the cupboard \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/o71i7 ]		Oct 26 12:41
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racoonfox12	hello, is this a chatroom for technology?	Oct 26 13:33
cubexyz	http://techrights.org/home/history	Oct 26 13:37
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cubexyz	quoting a windows 10 user:	Oct 26 14:31
cubexyz	The windows 10 start menu may not work as well as it used to, but it does bombard you with information about hamburgers and Lady Gaga and football when you open it	Oct 26 14:32
cubexyz	http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/mar/23/were-are-all-losers-to-gadget-industry-built-on-planned-obsolescence	Oct 26 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| We're all losers to a gadget industry built on planned obsolescence \| Guardian Sustainable Business \| The Guardian		Oct 26 14:45
cubexyz	Jon Postel doesn't really get enough credit for the RFCs	Oct 26 15:04
cubexyz	they are a model of clarity	Oct 26 15:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized	Oct 26 16:41
TweetTuxMachines	Apps for Ubuntu with LXD	Oct 26 16:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ilmLHred2K (thevarguy.com)	Oct 26 16:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Canonical Promises Easy, Secure Containerized Apps for Ubuntu with LXD \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 26 16:41
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cubexyz	got my answer from AMI :)	Oct 26 16:55
cubexyz	5 figures for the BIOS source code	Oct 26 16:55
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/vista-joke.jpg	Oct 26 17:54
msb_	I just talked with my mother on the phone. She told me I must not vote for Hillary Clinton because she let 6 Americans be killed in Benghazi. I told her that the US had destr0yed the whole nation of Libya, murdering hundreds of thousands of people. She said she had never heard of that. She said she's going to vote for Trump because he will make the US number one again. I said,	Oct 26 18:03
msb_	"but he's insane". She didn't care. She watches corporate news on TV.	Oct 26 18:03
MinceR	number one in what?	Oct 26 18:04
msb_	She never heard of Bernie Sanders. He's not mentioned on TV.	Oct 26 18:05
cubexyz	TV is a terrible way to obtain information	Oct 26 18:05
msb_	It sure is, unless you watch RT. But I suspect that most Americans agree with her and that tRump will become president.	Oct 26 18:06
msb_	Alex Jones likes him too.	Oct 26 18:07
cubexyz	doesn't he still have to win the Republican nomination?	Oct 26 18:07
cubexyz	Trump winning is far from assured	Oct 26 18:07
MinceR	and then he'll have to pivot to pandering to non-republican voters	Oct 26 18:08
MinceR	it seems he's targeting shallow idiots and that strategy may well work out	Oct 26 18:08
cubexyz	geez, I sure hope not	Oct 26 18:08
msb_	He's a psychopath. They know how to make people like them.	Oct 26 18:09
MinceR	according to Scott Adams, this method can be learned	Oct 26 18:10
msb_	Yes, but it comes naturally to many psychopaths.	Oct 26 18:10
msb_	I link to three good videos and one good article on psychopaths: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#PSYCHOPATHY	Oct 26 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Oct 26 18:23
msb_	tRump is the only Repug with any charisma, and the Repugs are attacking Hillary hammer and tongs. (BTW Hillary had a hand in destr0ying Libya. Re Gaddafi, she giggled on TV "We came, we saw, he died!". Socialist Sanders, despite winning every Dem straw poll, gets no mention on corporate TV because socialism would reduce the obscene profits of the ultra-wealthy that own the TV networks.	Oct 26 18:30
cubexyz	here in Canada the conservatives ran tons of attack ads against Justin Trudeau and he still won	Oct 26 18:31
cubexyz	sometimes attack ads backfire	Oct 26 18:32
msb_	Yes, but in the US, the ultra-wealthy run attack news stories. Those are believed without any questioning.	Oct 26 18:35
cubexyz	I have trouble believing people are that dumb :)	Oct 26 18:40
MinceR	they're providing plenty of evidence for that	Oct 26 18:40
msb_	Just talked with my neighbor, and mentioned Libya. He told me I should keep my opinions to myself, because they just upset people. I said they're not opinions, they're facts. He also knows only what he sees on corporate TV.	Oct 26 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Superb Ubuntu MATE Gold Edition Proposed by	Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	User - Video https://t.co/rExeSh833K	Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 19:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Superb Ubuntu MATE Gold Edition Proposed by User - Video - Softpedia		Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Ubuntu-Powered Erle-Spider Drone Now	Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	Available for Sale https://t.co/VqZrsWY5zw	Oct 26 19:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| The Ubuntu-Powered Erle-Spider Drone Now Available for Sale - Softpedia		Oct 26 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Learning Linux - Lesson Three: GNU/Linux	Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	Distributions https://t.co/tE6QTrJAm1	Oct 26 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Learning Linux - Lesson Three: GNU/Linux Distributions - Softpedia		Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE e.V. Quarterly Report - 2014Q4	Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IDvRyx1RMP (dot.kde.org)	Oct 26 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| KDE e.V. Quarterly Report - 2014Q4 \| KDE.news		Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu and Ubuntu Councils Issue Joint	Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	Statement https://t.co/ocJYiSeDQj	Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) Let's just pretend	Oct 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	everyone is 'happy'	Oct 26 19:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Ubuntu 15.10 a Fearless Werewolf or a Boring	Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	One? https://t.co/9edGGGUDyk	Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 19:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Is Ubuntu 15.10 a Fearless Werewolf or a Boring One? - Softpedia		Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unleashing the Werewolf	Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wHf6YurYcS (thestandard.com.ph)	Oct 26 19:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thestandard.com.ph \| Unleashing the Werewolf - The Standard		Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding	Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	WiFi to products https://t.co/MDWXNlzTAv	Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.edn.com)	Oct 26 19:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn.com \| Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding WiFi to products \| EDN		Oct 26 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ARM64 vs ARM32 -- What's different for Linux	Oct 26 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	programmers https://t.co/ZIyw637wZN	Oct 26 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.edn.com)	Oct 26 19:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edn.com \| ARM64 vs ARM32 -- What's different for Linux programmers \| EDN		Oct 26 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded	Oct 26 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	systems https://t.co/GUWZcIxXvm	Oct 26 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.newelectronics.co.uk)	Oct 26 19:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newelectronics.co.uk \| SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded systems		Oct 26 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SGI Introduces the New UV 300RL With Oracle	Oct 26 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/1g2ZMLZRHB (www.hpcwire.com)	Oct 26 19:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com \| SGI Introduces the New UV 300RL With Oracle Linux		Oct 26 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to	Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud	Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DaY0zoToKE (www.marketwatch.com)	Oct 26 19:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com \| Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud - MarketWatch		Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony	Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	Hooper https://t.co/vFo7nf3APh (www.linux.com)	Oct 26 19:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony Hooper \| Linux.com		Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding	Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	WiFi to products https://t.co/PBwrksIzPz	Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding WiFi to products \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	WiFi to products https://t.co/lnsoWunCkm	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Modules offer alternatives to Linux for adding WiFi to products \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Video Editors	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/N82NSjGjSU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Linux Video Editors \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	Hooper https://t.co/KfEzLnAKU2	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Anthony Hooper \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	systems https://t.co/rQ2PuJl8dY	Oct 26 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SnapUI brings Linux development to embedded systems \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 19:50
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/658731753910067200	Oct 26 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Curious how Barbara Boxer--a progressive Dem. leader who represents SiVa (& funded by them)--"YES" yesterday on key #CISA vote.		Oct 26 19:58
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747762	Oct 26 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dualtec-cloud-builders-selects-red-hat-to-deploy-brazils-first-openstack-based-cloud-2015-10-26 #redhat #brazil #rhel #openstack		Oct 26 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.marketwatch.com \| Dualtec Cloud Builders Selects Red Hat to Deploy Brazil's First OpenStack-based Cloud - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/o75r7 ]		Oct 26 19:58
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747776	Oct 26 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Silicon Valley's opposition to #cisa mounts as US Senate prepares to vote http://www.cnet.com/news/silicon-valleys-opposition-to-cybersecurity-bill-mounts-as-us-senate-prepares-to-vote/#ftag=CAD590a51e #facebook in FAVOUR https://boingboing.net/2015/10/24/petition-facebook-betrayed-us.html		Oct 26 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com \| Silicon Valley's opposition to cybersecurity bill mounts as US Senate prepares to vote - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/o75r8 ]		Oct 26 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> boingboing.net \| Petition: Facebook betrayed us by secretly lobbying for cyber-surveillance bill / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/o75r9 ]		Oct 26 19:58
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/658735525558398981	Oct 26 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @retroDoomer @schestowitz you'll be saying The Wizard of Oz isn't a real wizard next!		Oct 26 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pro tip: Roll your own "app" for Chromebook	Oct 26 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IDiBjZ1jBN (www.techrepublic.com)	Oct 26 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Pro tip: Roll your own "app" for Chromebook - TechRepublic		Oct 26 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Here are the 9 New Ubuntu 15.10 Features You	Oct 26 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	Should Know https://t.co/KiWGsndgMp	Oct 26 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(ubuntuportal.com)	Oct 26 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuportal.com \| Here are the 9 New Ubuntu 15.10 Features You Should Know - Ubuntu Portal		Oct 26 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Upgrading To Mesa 11.1-devel Worthwhile For	Oct 26 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon R600g Users? https://t.co/6u56Yptl80	Oct 26 20:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	download! https://t.co/7Nn9tzNnVz	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	(simplicitylinux.org)	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o762r	Oct 26 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simplicitylinux.org \| Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to download! - Simplicity Linux		Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS https://t.co/OYus4d4Mtn	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) ... https://t.co/gsH5OL7qo1	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	(joindiaspora.com)	Oct 26 20:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linuxhttp://www.ph...		Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android is the world's largest mobile platform	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	— but it has to overcome these massive hurdles	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	to keep the lead https://t.co/z8IlPPGWXu	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Oct 26 20:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o762v	Oct 26 20:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Here's Why the Nexus 6P is the Top Android	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Today https://t.co/F60t8QU2Tr	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.thestreet.com)	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o768g	Oct 26 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com \| Here's Why the Nexus 6P is the Top Android Phone Today - TheStreet		Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mark command usecase https://t.co/ICRh8IxxHy	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	(dnf.baseurl.org)	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o768h	Oct 26 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org \| Mark command usecase \| DNF		Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Linux Video Editors	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uWly1BaJJw (www.datamation.com)	Oct 26 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o768j	Oct 26 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| Best Linux Video Editors - Datamation		Oct 26 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Happy Distrovus: 3 big Linux Distros released	Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	in 8 days https://t.co/H7AVT14vn2	Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com)	Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76bu	Oct 26 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Happy Distrovus: 3 big Linux Distros released in 8 days \| Network World		Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.10 Gaming Impact With KDE Plasma 5	Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	Compositing For R600 Gallium3D	Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gGUpNM1Q2u (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76bw	Oct 26 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Kubuntu 15.10 Gaming Impact With KDE Plasma 5 Compositing For R600 Gallium3D - Phoronix		Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiamoi’s Linux laptop will be available in	Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	early 2016 https://t.co/5kspQd0V1x	Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Oct 26 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76bx	Oct 26 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Xiamoi's Linux Laptop Due For 2016 Release \| Digital Trends		Oct 26 20:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released!	Oct 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nF9l0nJVNq (tanglu.org)	Oct 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76ra	Oct 26 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tanglu.org \| Tanglu - Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released!		Oct 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available	Oct 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vFUi6wvLJW (www.kdevelop.org)	Oct 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76rc	Oct 26 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kdevelop.org \| First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available \| KDevelop		Oct 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Simplicity Linux 15.10 is now available to	Oct 26 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	download! https://t.co/A67VmhRGXg	Oct 26 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76re	Oct 26 21:19
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r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747934	Oct 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linuxhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=4k-brew-amdnv&num=1		Oct 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linux - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/o76w9 ]		Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS Linux https://t.co/Hkf20SjtOb	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76w8	Oct 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On SteamOS Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released!	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xfsSLTc8G3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76wa	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/a0EJvcfGdT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76wc	Oct 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tanglu 4.0 (Dasyatis kuhlii) Alpha released! \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Beta release of KDevelop 5.0.0 available \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An Experiment In Reviving Dead Open Source	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	Projects https://t.co/bxYbqSEPg8	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o76wf	Oct 26 21:32
*TweetTuxMachines @vorelp favourited 'SGI Introduces the New UV 300RL With Oracle...'		Oct 26 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An Experiment In Reviving Dead Open Source Projects \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 21:32
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6747932	Oct 26 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 4K AMD/NVIDIA High-End GPU Comparison On #SteamOS Linuxhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=4k-brew-amdnv&num=1 great benchmark from #phoronix		Oct 26 21:33
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r_schestowitz	"I recommend you to watch Cowspiracy."	Oct 26 22:47
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6748457	Oct 26 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Climate Change Is Already Costing Us Billions of Dollars Every Year http://motherboard.vice.com/read/climate-change-is-already-costing-us-billions-of-dollars-every-year but oil giants still profit, so...		Oct 26 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Climate Change Is Already Costing Us Billions of Dollars Every Year \| Motherboard		Oct 26 22:47
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/658776591527489536	Oct 26 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz She has been rather ... critical. If she has been threatened, wow..		Oct 26 22:47
r_schestowitz	(Merpel)	Oct 26 22:47
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/658776288136724480	Oct 26 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I know :( but I can't do anything about it. I'll try though, promise. Will have an answer tomorrow. Don't know if it's possible		Oct 26 22:48
r_schestowitz	Rianne also needed to subscribe to the reviews section to see some Linux software reviews	Oct 26 22:48
r_schestowitz	An atmosphere of fear and intimidation persist now, not just among staff or even unions. Sun King wants it all. #epo #battistelli	Oct 26 22:49
r_schestowitz	(EPO)	Oct 26 22:49
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/658778336697655296	Oct 26 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz Yes, those too are on a separate feed. It was webmaster's decision when he designed the site.		Oct 26 22:53
r_schestowitz	so do we (in thunderbird)	Oct 26 22:53
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MariusNestor/status/658778528255754240	Oct 26 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MariusNestor: @schestowitz I also monitor all feeds on the website in Thunderbird (software, reviews, news, blogs).		Oct 26 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Record Week https://t.co/zDPUHh0ujw	Oct 26 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) tuxmachines tripled in	Oct 26 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	traffic since we took over 2 years ago	Oct 26 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77to	Oct 26 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Record Week \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 23:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 of the most unconventional Android devices	Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	ever launched https://t.co/3HNxD5Uhaw	Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phonearena.com)	Oct 26 23:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| 5 of the most unconventional Android devices ever launched		Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Year of the Linux Desktop: Flock 2015 Summary	Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/myphdSiVNE (blog.justinwflory.com)	Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77v5	Oct 26 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.justinwflory.com \| Year of the Linux Desktop - Justin W. Flory's Blog		Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DNF 1.1.3 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.13 Released	Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YvP0gy4SKZ (dnf.baseurl.org)	Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77v8	Oct 26 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org \| DNF 1.1.3 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.13 Released \| DNF		Oct 26 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting started with Fedora	Oct 26 23:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CV04IDK6wV	Oct 26 23:12
TweetTuxMachines	(mashaleonova.wordpress.com)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wb	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashaleonova.wordpress.com \| Getting started with Fedora \| mashaleonova		Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The State of Android Gaming — Interesting	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	Takeaways From TestBird https://t.co/p4OuVj8AiW	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.xda-developers.com)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wc	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com \| The State of Android Gaming -- Interesting Takeaways From TestBird - XDA Forums		Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to give an Android phone 3D Touch by	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	hacking its barometer https://t.co/1KEsdPNNyS	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(bgr.com)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wd	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Android 3D Touch barometer hack \| BGR		Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/wyR9GPXrZg	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wg	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Screenshot Tours https://t.co/KJeLWnlXYd	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wl	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Screenshot Tours \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/7inB8e4PX7	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wp	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Big Data/Hosting https://t.co/lRurhyYg2y	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o77wq	Oct 26 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Big Data/Hosting \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 23:13
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/658784629181280256	Oct 26 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz The perfect tyranny is that under which people think they have total freedom.		Oct 26 23:20
r_schestowitz	or that they help spread it to other countries. It empowers the illusion. "Freedom and democracy". If only....	Oct 26 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla's Giveaway https://t.co/iI85xi0wGr	Oct 26 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7837	Oct 26 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GeoJSON in Maps https://t.co/1fyOd7NqMQ	Oct 26 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	(jonasdn.blogspot.co.uk) #gnome	Oct 26 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7838	Oct 26 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines My Wishion for KDE – Part 1 – Now	Oct 26 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rrPnm2DvMr (blogs.fsfe.org) "KDE	Oct 26 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	is mostly about people. We are a huge project"	Oct 26 23:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla's Giveaway \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jonasdn.blogspot.co.uk \| Things I do: GeoJSON in Maps		Oct 26 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.fsfe.org \| My Wishion for KDE – Part 1 – Now « Mario Fux		Oct 26 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,	Oct 26 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	Here's How https://t.co/KrmrbSzEbK	Oct 26 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7845	Oct 26 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10, Here's How - Softpedia		Oct 26 23:32
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,...'		Oct 26 23:32
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r_schestowitz	hi, papa	Oct 26 23:57
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6748727	Oct 27 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nytimes helps perpetuate #war by now revealing to its readers who the #pentagon and #cia are really killing http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/did-times-underplay-drone-program-leak/?smid=tw-share		Oct 27 00:13
r_schestowitz	"Sins must be confessed, doctor."	Oct 27 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/o78kx ]		Oct 27 00:13
r_schestowitz	The media prefers to hide these	Oct 27 00:13
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/toxicleaders/status/658793129257103361?t=1&cn=bWVudGlvbg%3D%3D&sig=d98cf73c5ab8c4f2612602088ccb613c8a2fd7d3&al=1&refsrc=email&iid=54c2aa21b8624d4cbcad7ff114954166&autoactions=1445903496&uid=26603208&nid=4+1267	Oct 27 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@toxicleaders: @4corners @schestowitz @Snowden US Military Justice system is in urgent need of reform: https://t.co/nIeajbU7Ce		Oct 27 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> medium.com \| US Military Justice system is in urgent need of reform — Medium		Oct 27 00:15
MinceR	http://members.efn.org/~paulmd/OwnWork/AdventuresinCensorship.pdf	Oct 27 00:45
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/658808462118395904	Oct 27 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz I'd say lack of drivers, poor features for some desktop apps, and absence of decent apps in some niches are big gaps in #Linux		Oct 27 00:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Linux Demonstrates New Cloud Application	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	Store https://t.co/o4DQ7EOQwG (www.eweek.com)	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o79eb	Oct 27 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Ubuntu Linux Demonstrates New Cloud Application Store		Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vendetta Online 1.8.356 3D Space Combat Game	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	Brings More Improvements >	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iTlgO3qCsZ (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o79ec	Oct 27 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Vendetta Online 1.8.356 3D Space Combat Game Brings More Improvements - Softpedia		Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 4 release	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	has various hardware support improvements"	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b2MOUov0l8 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o79ed	Oct 27 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 4 Drops The CD Sets - Phoronix		Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10,	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	Here's How https://t.co/CSlY3BUAg7	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o79ee	Oct 27 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| System76 Users Can Now Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10, Here's How \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/ksxWWZIVyW	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o79eg	Oct 27 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Phoronix on Graphics \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ERJDExH9uU	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o79ei	Oct 27 01:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack's Professional Certification and	Oct 27 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	Project Nnavigator https://t.co/cyqAE5LiX9	Oct 27 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 02:05
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msb_	cubexyz: a couple of people on a devuan-related channel were talking about doing without some of these programs: udev udisks dbus pulseaudio libpulse systemd consolekit polkit policykit logind loginkit avahi I don't know what they do, but I remember that Linux used to be much simpler, although it required, e.g., specifying disks in fstab by hardware port numbers instead of disk IDs. Is such a simplified Linux possible? Desireable?	Oct 27 03:07
msb_	Especially if there's only a single user.	Oct 27 03:07
MinceR	hopefully possible, certainly desirable	Oct 27 03:08
MinceR	i'll attempt to do so via funtoo	Oct 27 03:08
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amarsh04	I still think that booting from a CD is more likely to work than booting on a USB stick (unless there is a filesystem well supported for booting like iso 9660 for CD's)	Oct 27 05:38
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cubexyz	yes, there's lots of simpler older linux systems still running	Oct 27 08:30
cubexyz	for example, FC1 doesn't have any of that stuff: udev udisks dbus pulseaudio libpulse systemd consolekit polkit policykit logind loginkit avahi	Oct 27 08:32
cubexyz	except for dbus	Oct 27 08:32
cubexyz	it works fine	Oct 27 08:32
cubexyz	dbus is just a way for applications to talk to each other	Oct 27 08:33
cubexyz	of course if you go further back there was no dbus, and naturally those systems worked too	Oct 27 08:34
cubexyz	there's nothing inherently bad about dbus though	Oct 27 08:34
cubexyz	FC1 uses alsa, not pulseaudio	Oct 27 08:35
cubexyz	the issue with using older Linux is stuff like web browsers changes so fast, which requires newer libraries, e.g. newer versions of gtk	Oct 27 08:36
cubexyz	the old way of doing devices was static	Oct 27 08:38
cubexyz	just a file in /dev	Oct 27 08:38
cubexyz	udev handles hot plugging and loading firmware as necessary	Oct 27 08:39
cubexyz	again, not inherently bad, but still a big change	Oct 27 08:39
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cubexyz	it meant that programmers had to change a lot of applications: e.g. anything hot pluggable now required different programming	Oct 27 08:40
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cubexyz	that doesn't mean that udev is essential to linux though	Oct 27 08:41
cubexyz	I found static files worked just fine	Oct 27 08:41
cubexyz	there are alternatives of course, OpenBSD doesn't bother with most of the noveau stuff either	Oct 27 08:42
cubexyz	so if you what a more traditional Unix, you really have it already in the BSDs	Oct 27 08:43
cubexyz	I suspect what will happen is that the older Linux crowd (who may be predisposed to using older hardware) will tee off an older Linux and upgrade applications as needed	Oct 27 08:45
cubexyz	some Linux people have called udev a "broken piece of shit" (no paraphrasing)	Oct 27 08:46
cubexyz	the old school Linux people want to stay with the Unix design philosophy	Oct 27 08:47
cubexyz	these days that means slackware, or distros based on debian wheezy, or devuan I suppose	Oct 27 08:50
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cubexyz	basically in KDE 2 & 3 we had a similar thing to dbus called DCOP	Oct 27 08:54
cubexyz	of course DCOP was replaced by dbus in KDE 4 and beyond	Oct 27 08:54
cubexyz	Microsoft make a thing called OLE or Object Linking and Embedding	Oct 27 08:56
cubexyz	back in 1990 or so	Oct 27 08:56
cubexyz	GNOME and KDE used a similar idea to this called bonobo and kparts respectively	Oct 27 08:57
cubexyz	basically some of these new ideas are fine... it's just the implementation of them that people worry about	Oct 27 09:00
cubexyz	bonodo was deprecated a while ago	Oct 27 09:00
cubexyz	since GNOME 2.4 I believe	Oct 27 09:00
cubexyz	a long time ago some Microsoft competitors came up with CIL or Component Intergation Laboratories but I'm not sure if anyone used it	Oct 27 09:03
cubexyz	this was back in 1994... "OpenDoc: A path to interoperability" :)	Oct 27 09:04
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc	Oct 27 09:05
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cubexyz	so yeah, the whole OpenDoc thing died on the vine quite some time ago	Oct 27 09:06
cubexyz	lots of busted-ass ideas, not all of them survive, but that doesn't mean some of the older ideas weren't good	Oct 27 09:07
cubexyz	Microsoft just tried to kill anything not from them	Oct 27 09:07
cubexyz	kparts survived... it's in trinity and I still use it	Oct 27 09:08
cubexyz	non-Microsoft ideas live on and are protected somewhat in the Linux/BSD ecosystem	Oct 27 09:09
cubexyz	you know, I'm glad I'm logging this :)	Oct 27 09:09
cubexyz	oh and Microsoft would not certify applications for win95 that used OpenDoc	Oct 27 09:11
cubexyz	that's another dirty trick for the file	Oct 27 09:11
cubexyz	ok.. updated..	Oct 27 09:13
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt	Oct 27 09:13
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schestowitz	[08:54] <cubexyz> basically in KDE 2 & 3 we had a similar thing to dbus called DCOP	Oct 27 09:14
schestowitz	still? Move on, ;-)	Oct 27 09:14
schestowitz	kf5 has been getting better	Oct 27 09:14
schestowitz	DCOP brings back memories of Konqueror	Oct 27 09:14
cubexyz	that's the good part of Linux/BSD	Oct 27 09:16
cubexyz	people can use what they want	Oct 27 09:16
cubexyz	I still use one KDE 1 application	Oct 27 09:18
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cubexyz	believe it:	Oct 27 09:20
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/openbsd-krubik-kde1.png	Oct 27 09:21
cubexyz	now isn't that better than using creepy windows 10?	Oct 27 09:22
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 27 09:22
cubexyz	http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/windows-10-watching-you-fans-6187498	Oct 27 09:25
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cubexyz	https://www.rt.com/usa/311304-new-windows-privacy-issues/	Oct 27 09:28
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cubexyz	solitaire comes with ads	Oct 27 09:30
cubexyz	that's pretty crap	Oct 27 09:31
cubexyz	can't wait for windows 11 where a fist comes out of the screen and punches you in the head	Oct 27 09:40
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msb_	cubexyz: To load my clipboard, for my cli drag-n-drop system, I have this line in a script (for loading from stdin): qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper setClipboardContents "$(cat)"	Oct 27 10:16
msb_	That uses libqt4	Oct 27 10:17
cubexyz	:q	Oct 27 10:18
cubexyz	oops	Oct 27 10:18
msb_	The klipper is from KDE4.6 I guess qdbus is a cli command for accessing dbus.	Oct 27 10:18
msb_	IIRC you can use qdbus to explore the dbus connections available from a particular program like klipper.	Oct 27 10:20
cubexyz	we've been over that... remember I modded your stuff for KDE3?	Oct 27 10:22
msb_	Right. What was the X program you used to set the clipboard?	Oct 27 10:22
cubexyz	I don't think there was an X program used in that case	Oct 27 10:26
cubexyz	there was the old xsel but you didn't use that	Oct 27 10:27
cubexyz	you had a bash script called xsel instead, which I renamed to xsel1 because of the conflict	Oct 27 10:27
msb_	xselection?	Oct 27 10:28
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/pfiles-for-kde3.zip	Oct 27 10:29
cubexyz	it's all in there	Oct 27 10:29
msb_	Thanks!	Oct 27 10:29
cubexyz	xsel1 is the bash script that does the klipper stuff	Oct 27 10:30
cubexyz	I commented out the parts that were for KDE4	Oct 27 10:30
cubexyz	both are fairly similar	Oct 27 10:31
msb_	Right, I did save that, just didn't know what it was called. you used dcop on the KDE3 klipper	Oct 27 10:31
cubexyz	that's right	Oct 27 10:32
msb_	And it works on Trinity klipper?	Oct 27 10:32
cubexyz	ummm, could be different	Oct 27 10:35
msb_	So udev sets up the files in the /dev directory, right? Which is nice, except that it's now incorporated into systemd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev	Oct 27 10:46
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cubexyz	ok, to answer your first question will it work on trinity... yes	Oct 27 10:47
cubexyz	but not across ssh like I was trying to do	Oct 27 10:47
cubexyz	due to the fact that the $DISPLAY variable is different	Oct 27 10:47
cubexyz	so trinity is doing the same things that KDE3 does basically	Oct 27 10:47
cubexyz	you can have udev without systemd	Oct 27 10:48
cubexyz	that's what slackware does	Oct 27 10:48
cubexyz	but yes, the pfile thing for kde3 should work on trinity without modification	Oct 27 10:48
cubexyz	udev is like a dynamic thing... I don't really like it but I do use it on one system	Oct 27 10:49
cubexyz	stuff is still in /dev but it's different with udev	Oct 27 10:51
cubexyz	e.g. /dev/bus/usb/005/002 <--- dynamic filename	Oct 27 10:51
cubexyz	you unplug your scanner and plug it in again, now the filename is different	Oct 27 10:51
cubexyz	I think that's stupid but whatever	Oct 27 10:51
cubexyz	in the old days you could just open /dev/usb/scanner0 and fprintf commands out to it	Oct 27 10:53
cubexyz	/dev/usb/scanner0 was scanner 0, it didn't change on a power cycle or unplug	Oct 27 10:53
msb_	I guess as long as you plugged it into the same USB port.	Oct 27 10:54
cubexyz	nope, it would increment the device number each time	Oct 27 10:54
cubexyz	didn't matter if it was the same port or not	Oct 27 10:55
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cubexyz	or rather udev did	Oct 27 10:55
msb_	I meant in the old days.	Oct 27 10:55
cubexyz	I can't remember the device filename changing in 10 years of use	Oct 27 10:55
cubexyz	I always had one scanner and it was /dev/usb/scanner0	Oct 27 10:56
XRevan86	Discussing "Predictable Network Interface Names"?	Oct 27 10:56
schestowitz	> I just checked with the latest Tails 1.6 image. It has Pidgin	Oct 27 10:56
cubexyz	honestly, I think the old method was better	Oct 27 10:56
schestowitz	> pre-loaded to use Tor. Tails' Pidgin allows Google Talk, Facebook	Oct 27 10:56
schestowitz	> (XMPP), IRC and general XMPP. However, as mentioned, Freenode blocks	Oct 27 10:56
schestowitz	> most, if not all, exit nodes. So in effect Freenode is blocked. IRC is	Oct 27 10:56
schestowitz	> therefore not an option for Tails users and using it without tails would	Oct 27 10:56
schestowitz	> give away the answers to who, when and where in regards to	Oct 27 10:57
schestowitz	> whistleblowing. Can you use XMPP?	Oct 27 10:57
schestowitz	I can, but whose server? Should I set one up just for this?	Oct 27 10:57
XRevan86	Facebook supports XMPP no more.	Oct 27 10:57
cubexyz	if you wanted to write your own scanner program it's a lot harder now	Oct 27 10:57
cubexyz	it's ok, if I say "windows 10 sucks" it doesn't have to be a secret :)	Oct 27 10:58
cubexyz	I'll go on record for that one	Oct 27 10:59
cubexyz	now I'm wondering did any distro not use udev	Oct 27 11:00
cubexyz	I think they changed the serial port names too	Oct 27 11:01
cubexyz	it's a mess	Oct 27 11:02
cubexyz	there's /sys/devices/platform/serial8250 and the like	Oct 27 11:03
cubexyz	but maybe /dev/ttyS0 is still there	Oct 27 11:04
msb_	So udev doesn't link the new variable dev names to a simple fixed one like /dev/scanner0 ?	Oct 27 11:04
cubexyz	nope	Oct 27 11:04
msb_	How do official scanner programs find the scanner?	Oct 27 11:04
cubexyz	that's depreciated	Oct 27 11:04
XRevan86	What's this conversation is about?	Oct 27 11:04
cubexyz	well, there is a method for it... it's in xscanimage	Oct 27 11:05
cubexyz	basically the changes in device names before and after udev was in Linux	Oct 27 11:06
cubexyz	basically you do something like:	Oct 27 11:06
cubexyz	xscanimage rts8891:libusb:005:002	Oct 27 11:06
cubexyz	but the numbers on the end could change, so it's stupid	Oct 27 11:06
cubexyz	in the old days if you knew the protocol you could hack up a simple program to send commands to the scanner	Oct 27 11:07
msb_	Can you do lusb and look for "scanner", when the program starts?	Oct 27 11:07
cubexyz	all that stuff is severely obfuscated nowadays	Oct 27 11:08
cubexyz	ha, well not quite	Oct 27 11:08
cubexyz	it probably doesn't use the word 'scanner'	Oct 27 11:08
cubexyz	just the make and model #	Oct 27 11:09
cubexyz	that's another reason why trinity is necessary... kooka stopped working with the change to udev	Oct 27 11:11
cubexyz	my simple utilities stopped working as well	Oct 27 11:12
msb_	So you can store your make and model in a file somewhere, and have your program access it. Once you code it, it will work effortlessly.	Oct 27 11:12
msb_	SMOP	Oct 27 11:12
cubexyz	you can't just open the device with fopen	Oct 27 11:13
msb_	Linux works around all obstacles!	Oct 27 11:13
cubexyz	no fprintf, on fgetc, etc	Oct 27 11:14
cubexyz	it doesn't work	Oct 27 11:14
msb_	How do you send commands to the scanner now?	Oct 27 11:14
cubexyz	not to mention the scanner protocol itself is now obfuscated by most companies	Oct 27 11:14
cubexyz	I don't use my own utilities, I have to use xscanimage	Oct 27 11:15
cubexyz	the general situtation is not good at all	Oct 27 11:16
msb_	But our user experience has been improved. 8^(	Oct 27 11:17
cubexyz	it's not just about trying to lockout linux... it's worse than that	Oct 27 11:18
cubexyz	they are also locking out old windows!	Oct 27 11:18
cubexyz	obviously so people have to keep buying more hardware	Oct 27 11:18
cubexyz	I complaining a lot to HP about this, but got nowhere	Oct 27 11:19
cubexyz	complained	Oct 27 11:19
msb_	HP is a military corporation.	Oct 27 11:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Android has 1.4 billion monthly active users	Oct 27 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	on its smartphones and tablets."	Oct 27 11:20
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cubexyz	I did chronicle my epic battle with HP:	Oct 27 11:22
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hp.txt	Oct 27 11:22
msb_	If people buy new computers, we can tell them about Linux. If we have a good up-to-date non-systemd Linux to tell them about.	Oct 27 11:22
cubexyz	that's another thing I have to figure out... scanning on chromebooks	Oct 27 11:22
cubexyz	because if I say, "hey buy a chromebook" I know they'll ask about printing and scanning	Oct 27 11:23
msb_	I think the lesson learned here, plus when I phone them about my inkjet printer that crapped out and they wouldn't talk to me unless I paid them $75, is Never buy anything from HP.	Oct 27 11:27
cubexyz	ha, well I did just recently	Oct 27 11:27
cubexyz	my chromebook is made by HP	Oct 27 11:27
msb_	Hope it has a long warranty. Otherwise it'll cost ya.	Oct 27 11:28
cubexyz	how can I made a blanket statement "HP is bad" when my laserjet from 1997 still works?	Oct 27 11:28
cubexyz	I guess I could say "HP is not as good as they used to be"	Oct 27 11:29
msb_	Or, HP is bad now, never buy anything from them.	Oct 27 11:29
cubexyz	well, not a scanner at least	Oct 27 11:30
msb_	I put HP in the same bag with Microsoft and Intel. Never buy anything from any of them.	Oct 27 11:30
msb_	Or a printer.	Oct 27 11:31
cubexyz	Epson has SANE friendly scanners and printers	Oct 27 11:32
msb_	Alright!	Oct 27 11:33
msb_	Feed the good wolf!	Oct 27 11:33
cubexyz	Epson still sells dot matrix printers too	Oct 27 11:33
msb_	Real programmers use teletypes!	Oct 27 11:35
cubexyz	oh and I own an HP laptop as well :)	Oct 27 11:39
cubexyz	so HP is both good and bad	Oct 27 11:39
cubexyz	the IBM thinkpad lasted the longest of all my laptops	Oct 27 11:43
cubexyz	14 years and counting	Oct 27 11:43
cubexyz	do I think it's the best laptop ever? No	Oct 27 11:43
cubexyz	taking it apart is a pain	Oct 27 11:44
cubexyz	there's no substitute for putting the time in and learning about your hardware	Oct 27 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel Updates: 4.1.12, 3.14.56, 3.10.92	Oct 27 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KwnADT8qnb (lwn.net)	Oct 27 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7otPPSwCNs (lwn.net)	Oct 27 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/11Jg07sh0r (lwn.net)	Oct 27 12:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Linux 3.10.92 [LWN.net]		Oct 27 12:01
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 12:05
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch with a Mouse Cursor Is Interesting	Oct 27 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	and Cool at the Same Time	Oct 27 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hHMbTGMWqD (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7d1y	Oct 27 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch with a Mouse Cursor Is Interesting and Cool at the Same Time - Softpedia		Oct 27 12:06
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 12:20
*TweetTuxMachines saw that tweet by @tuxmachines too		Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SteamOS Switches To Linux 4.1, Latest Graphics	Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	Drivers https://t.co/ymFMCpzKOL	Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/knWkAiXlrf	Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7d3y	Oct 27 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| SteamOS Switches To Linux 4.1, Latest Graphics Drivers - Phoronix		Oct 27 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Major SteamOS Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.1, Updates Nvidia and AMD Drivers - Softpedia		Oct 27 12:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Simplicity Linux 15.10 Officially Released, Rebased on Linux...'		Oct 27 12:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch with a Mouse Cursor Is Interesting...'		Oct 27 12:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Massive Unity 8 Convergence Goodness Now Available for...'		Oct 27 12:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Snappy Ubuntu Core 15.04 Receives Basic Support for...'		Oct 27 12:20
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Snappy Ubuntu Core 15.04 Receives Basic Support for...'		Oct 27 12:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 and MATE 1.12 to Arrive In...'		Oct 27 12:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.2.5 Has Been Released with Many...'		Oct 27 12:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian 9 “Stretch” Installer Alpha 4 Drops Support...'		Oct 27 12:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/658975501785112576	Oct 27 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz True, the king of the thugs blocked/censored #techrights for the entire staff however villainous as he is he excluded himselve		Oct 27 12:34
schestowitz	No censorship here : http://zeronet.io/	Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zeronet.io \| ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network		Oct 27 12:35
schestowitz	http://twister.net.co/	Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'twister.net.co' ( status 0 @ http://twister.net.co/ )		Oct 27 12:35
schestowitz	https://onionshare.org/	Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-onionshare.org \| OnionShare		Oct 27 12:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6714120	Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Tonga uses #paedophilia" as pretext for imposed (nn everyone) #internet #censorship http://matangitonga.to/2015/10/13/government-censorship-concern-should-not-be-ignored		Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> matangitonga.to \| Government censorship - a concern that should not be ignored \| Matangi Tonga		Oct 27 12:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6738953	Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Snowden leaks reveal harmfulness of US #monopoly on #internet – Russian minister https://www.rt.com/news/319522-snowden-leaks-us-monopoly/ also harmful to US		Oct 27 12:35
schestowitz	"no monopoly here : http://zeronet.io/"	Oct 27 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.rt.com \| Snowden leaks reveal harmfulness of US monopoly on internet – Russian minister — RT News		Oct 27 12:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6739319	Oct 27 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISPs don’t have 1st Amendment right to edit Internet, #FCC tells court http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/isps-dont-have-1st-amendment-right-to-edit-internet-fcc-tells-court/ #internet #netneutrality		Oct 27 12:36
schestowitz	"commercial* ISP"	Oct 27 12:36
schestowitz	indeed	Oct 27 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| ISPs don’t have 1st Amendment right to edit Internet, FCC tells court \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/o7d79 ]		Oct 27 12:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6740203	Oct 27 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ISPs Fail on Privacy Scorecard http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/isps-fail-on-privacy-scorecard/ #privacy #internet		Oct 27 12:37
schestowitz	"it is commercial ISP , what a joke"	Oct 27 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infosecurity-magazine.com \| ISPs Fail on Privacy Scorecard - Infosecurity Magazine		Oct 27 12:37
cubexyz	does the US really control the internet?	Oct 27 12:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6749824	Oct 27 12:37
schestowitz	Fax it to the branches addressed to no-one and it gets passed around the staff before getting to management, in my experience really pisses them off ;)"	Oct 27 12:37
schestowitz	I heard that Topic now walks up and down the corridors there removing unwanted posters :0)	Oct 27 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's sad & ironic in a sense that #battistelli and his #epo thugs cannot read what #techrights says about them because they blocked the site		Oct 27 12:38
schestowitz	"It is neutral here : http://zeronet.io/ "	Oct 27 12:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6730748	Oct 27 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NetNeutrality in Europe: Now or Never! http://www.laquadrature.net/en/netneutrality-now-or-never #europe #internet		Oct 27 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.laquadrature.net \| Net Neutrality in Europe: Now or Never! \| La Quadrature du Net		Oct 27 12:38
cubexyz	https://www.popularresistance.org/creating-an-alternative-internet-to-keep-the-nsa-out/	Oct 27 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popularresistance.org \| Creating An Alternative Internet To Keep The NSA Out \| PopularResistance.Org		Oct 27 12:43
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6688558	Oct 27 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ICANN: Just give us the keys to the internet – or the web will disintegrate http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/08/icann_fires_fear_fuzzy_logic_iana_transition/ #icann #internet		Oct 27 12:45
schestowitz	"	Oct 27 12:45
schestowitz	I think you 're searching for this : http://namecoin.info/	Oct 27 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| ICANN: Just give us the keys to the internet – or the web will disintegrate • The Register		Oct 27 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://namecoin.info/ )		Oct 27 12:45
schestowitz	https://theumlaut.com/2014/02/05/namecoin-icann/	Oct 27 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://theumlaut.com/2014/02/05/namecoin-icann/ )		Oct 27 12:45
schestowitz	"	Oct 27 12:45
schestowitz	I really want to crush this monopoly	Oct 27 12:45
schestowitz	cubexyz: yes, thank you	Oct 27 12:46
schestowitz	[12:37] <cubexyz> does the US really control the internet?	Oct 27 12:46
schestowitz	yes, root DNS	Oct 27 12:46
schestowitz	!google condy rice internet control	Oct 27 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Condoleezza Rice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice	Oct 27 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Condoleezza Rice on the Issues \| http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm	Oct 27 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Rice's stance on controversial issues - POLITICO \| http://www.politico.com/story/2012/07/rices-stance-on-controversial-issues-078489	Oct 27 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Read the letter that won the internet governance battle • The Register \| http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/02/rice_eu_letter/	Oct 27 12:46
schestowitz	see [4]	Oct 27 12:46
schestowitz	I think it's wrong, and no wonder China or Russia ask for change	Oct 27 12:46
schestowitz	If only the US was ranked high for press freedom	Oct 27 12:47
schestowitz	it's not, at least not anymore	Oct 27 12:47
schestowitz	so time for change	Oct 27 12:47
cubexyz	that letter doesn't really say much	Oct 27 12:49
cubexyz	just a bunch of blah blah	Oct 27 12:49
cubexyz	mostly just political rhetoric	Oct 27 12:50
cubexyz	there's no oversight for ICANN	Oct 27 12:52
cubexyz	The Government Advisory Committee advises ICANN	Oct 27 12:53
cubexyz	looks like Microsoft controls microsoft.sucks :)	Oct 27 12:55
cubexyz	or they have a redirector on the domain	Oct 27 12:56
cubexyz	bing.sucks just takes you to bing	Oct 27 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 and MATE 1.12 to Arrive In...'		Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 27/10/2015: Tanglu 4.0, Simplicity Linux	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	15.10 https://t.co/aDhE2kyWSl (techrights.org)	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7des	Oct 27 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 27/10/2015: Tanglu 4.0, Simplicity Linux 15.10 \| Techrights		Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/Cix4Zkzgjm	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7det	Oct 27 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/ScF3blxHLS	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7deu	Oct 27 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/l8A2R7UPhg	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7dev	Oct 27 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/cUrAi8B9Cq	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7dew	Oct 27 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 13:23
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MinceR	093340 < cubexyz> dbus is just a way for applications to talk to each other	Oct 27 15:36
MinceR	a badly designed one	Oct 27 15:36
MinceR	though there's yet hope for fixing that with a reimplementation	Oct 27 15:36
MinceR	(when restarting the daemon, hand its file descriptors over to the new instance)	Oct 27 15:36
cubexyz	the dcopserver lives on in trinity :)	Oct 27 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/O4kLPNuvpB	Oct 27 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/658997105508249600	Oct 27 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 27/10/2015: Tanglu 4.0, Simplicity Linux	Oct 27 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 15.10 https://t.co/aDhE2kyWSl (techrights.org)	Oct 27 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 27 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7e6y	Oct 27 16:21
MinceR	https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20151027/06432332646/european-unions-new-net-neutrality-protections-are-joke.shtml	Oct 27 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com \| The European Union's New Net Neutrality 'Protections' Are A Joke \| Techdirt		Oct 27 17:07
schestowitz	Control_Risks	Oct 27 17:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ByeBads/status/659066004983574528	Oct 27 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ByeBads: @schestowitz protecting and promoting the open internet nprm fccgov https://t.co/7AcnJRwFgg		Oct 27 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fcc.gov \| Protecting and Promoting the Open Internet NPRM \| FCC.gov		Oct 27 17:56
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-NickServ-schestowitz!~roy@host86-134-167-166.range86-134.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)		Oct 27 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AnTuTu’s Top 10 Android Smartphones Of Q3 2015	Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	List Is Here https://t.co/g0FgffU5xX	Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.com)	Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7evd	Oct 27 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com \| AnTuTu’s Top 10 Android Smartphones Of Q3 2015 List Is Here		Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry’s $699 Android gambit is too much	Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	too late https://t.co/W5uuffkkxj	Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7eve	Oct 27 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| BlackBerry’s $699 Android gambit is too much too late \| The Verge		Oct 27 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Looking for a Community Lead for Project Atomic	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FmWBOIFq5J (dissociatedpress.net)	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ewz	Oct 27 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissociatedpress.net \| Looking for a Community Lead for Project Atomic \| Dissociated Press		Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Verizon’s New Android Phone Has a Shatter-Proof	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	Screen https://t.co/vLlBK1HXkI (time.com)	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ex0	Oct 27 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Motorola's Droid Turbo 2 Has A Shatter-Proof Screen		Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines As a longtime Android user, here are my 3 early	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	gripes about the iPhone 6s	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3yR0ojJqMA (bgr.com)	Oct 27 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ex1	Oct 27 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Android vs. iPhone 6s comparison: My three biggest disappointments \| BGR		Oct 27 18:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ChristoHaunted/status/659071921842212864	Oct 27 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ChristoHaunted: @schestowitz better then no rules		Oct 27 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Clever Hack Kinda-Sorta Brings 3D Touch to	Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/hJJgwTKuFD (gizmodo.com)	Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f0u	Oct 27 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| A Clever Hack Kinda-Sorta Brings 3D Touch to Android		Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting Started with Fedora – Update	Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z1ExugBLJk	Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	(eischmann.wordpress.com) "Fedora’ handbook	Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	which we had published in Czech."	Oct 27 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com \| Getting Started with Fedora – Update \| Brno's hat		Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f0v	Oct 27 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chaos Reborn Fantasy Strategy Game Fully	Oct 27 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	Released For Linux https://t.co/tcWVV2lN6b	Oct 27 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 27 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f0y	Oct 27 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Chaos Reborn Fantasy Strategy Game Fully Released For Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 27 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Developers Of Ashes Of The Singularity State	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Will Come After Vulkan Arrives	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ClByB6gkEZ (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f4x	Oct 27 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Developers Of Ashes Of The Singularity State Linux Will Come After Vulkan Arrives \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Long Dark Survival Game Launches An	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	Experimental Branch For Linux	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BYyM4DdCNd (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f4y	Oct 27 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Long Dark Survival Game Launches An Experimental Branch For Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A happy home https://t.co/2bl8nZ4DXa	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxformat.com)	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f4z	Oct 27 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxformat.com \| A happy home \| Linux Format		Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Android Marshmallow tips and tricks you can	Oct 27 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	show off to your friends	Oct 27 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tSuSIDfoE2 (siliconangle.com)	Oct 27 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6p	Oct 27 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com \| 8 Android Marshmallow tips and tricks you can show off to your friends \| SiliconANGLE		Oct 27 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 8 Android Marshmallow tips and tricks you can	Oct 27 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	show off to your friends	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tSuSIDwZvA (siliconangle.com)	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6q	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5 Powers KaOS Productivity	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YpxoOyA8Dq (www.linuxinsider.com)	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6r	Oct 27 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Plasma 5 Powers KaOS Productivity \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro GNOME 15.09 R2 Arrives with GNOME	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	3.18.1 and Linux Kernel 4.1.11 LTS	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JxeFtGNpX8 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f6s	Oct 27 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro GNOME 15.09 R2 Arrives with GNOME 3.18.1 and Linux Kernel 4.1.11 LTS - Softpedia		Oct 27 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5 will be the default desktop	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	environment in Chakra https://t.co/qKVVjSOf5f	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	(chakraos.org)	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f75	Oct 27 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chakraos.org \| Plasma 5 will be the default desktop environment in Chakra \| Chakra \| News		Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	Started https://t.co/K1djpWwKdi	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f76	Oct 27 19:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has Started - Softpedia		Oct 27 19:00
*TweetTuxMachines @TecnologiaFree retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has Started...'		Oct 27 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDevelop 5.0.0 Beta 1 available !	Oct 27 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cxTtau7FH4 (milianw.de)	Oct 27 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7f85	Oct 27 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-milianw.de \| KDevelop 5.0.0 Beta 1 available! \| Milian Wolff		Oct 27 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The lamentable state of Linux and email clients	Oct 27 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/grh7IGHjwS (www.techrepublic.com)	Oct 27 19:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| The lamentable state of Linux and email clients - TechRepublic		Oct 27 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDevelop 5.0.0 Beta 1 available	Oct 27 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	!https://t.co/cxTtau7FH4 (milianw.de)	Oct 27 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fat	Oct 27 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th	Oct 27 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	Gen Core https://t.co/J2gZS49F8g	Oct 27 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fau	Oct 27 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th Gen Core · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DoubleCMD 0.6.6 Has Been Released	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9fw3td4vxh (linuxg.net)	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fav	Oct 27 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| DoubleCMD 0.6.6 Has Been Released \| LinuxG.net		Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/grC4qruOL2	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fax	Oct 27 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora: The Latest \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/2nupIPE1RC	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fay	Oct 27 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux / Open Source on Churches	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S6Q4Osdd7Z (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7faz	Oct 27 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux / Open Source on Churches \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	Gen Core https://t.co/Gbu2OXdMO7	Oct 27 19:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rugged vehicle-PC runs Linux on dual-core 5th Gen Core \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 19:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	with customised, mass-produced boards	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iIId7ZqKhy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fhy	Oct 27 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion with customised, mass-produced boards \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiaomi Linux Laptop To Enter Production Early	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	Next Year https://t.co/twHEJBjacT	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fhz	Oct 27 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Xiaomi's Linux Laptop To Enter Production 'Early Next Year'		Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alta Data Technologies Releases Linux 4.1.1	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Support for MIL-STD-1553 and ARINC	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	Products https://t.co/rweB2Gwsi7	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.businesswire.com)	Oct 27 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fi0	Oct 27 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com \| Alta Data Technologies Releases Linux 4.1.1 Kernel Support for MIL-STD-1553 and ARINC Products \| Business Wire		Oct 27 19:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/edent/status/659092285431353344	Oct 27 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edent: Where do I pre-order? https://t.co/rtkyBONWtR		Oct 27 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Xiaomi #Linux Laptop To Enter Production Early Next Year https://t.co/RynKUyz1Gd #gnu #china		Oct 27 19:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Rubonist/status/659093714095251457	Oct 27 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Rubonist: @edent @schestowitz let me know if you get a reply!		Oct 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Nows Run Any Ubuntu, but not	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME, KDE, Unity https://t.co/CMd0MbAd3p	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fjm	Oct 27 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Raspberry Pi Nows Run Any Ubuntu, but not GNOME, KDE, Unity \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	with customised, mass-produced boards	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z8JGTMjmVJ (www.cnet.com)	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fjn	Oct 27 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com \| Raspberry Pi eyes Internet of Things expansion with customised, mass-produced boards - CNET		Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Adds New "Chell" Chromebook & New	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	Coreboot Graphics Library	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tYZtfWGiCL (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 19:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fjo	Oct 27 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Google Adds New "Chell" Chromebook & New Coreboot Graphics Library - Phoronix		Oct 27 19:48
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Google Adds New "Chell" Chromebook & New Coreboot...'		Oct 27 19:48
cubexyz	deleted?	Oct 27 19:49
schestowitz	yeah	Oct 27 19:54
schestowitz	missing space	Oct 27 19:54
schestowitz	between URL and title	Oct 27 19:54
schestowitz	I reposted that, correctly the second or third time	Oct 27 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux / Open Source on Churches	Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oNKD8ZlNAt (www.linux.com)	Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fm8	Oct 27 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux / Open Source on Churches \| Linux.com		Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solu Mini-PC Taps Linux for Organic Cloud UI	Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/B91b5CcHXE (www.linux.com)	Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fm9	Oct 27 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Solu Mini-PC Taps Linux for Organic Cloud UI \| Linux.com		Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 Through Fedora 23 Benchmarks	Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HZxKkEbNF2 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fma	Oct 27 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 20 Through Fedora 23 Benchmarks - Phoronix		Oct 27 19:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux in the Office https://t.co/KLumVuluNT	Oct 27 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.chris-shaw.com)	Oct 27 20:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.chris-shaw.com/b/Linux-in-the-Office )		Oct 27 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GParted 0.24 Adds ZFS & NVMe Detection	Oct 27 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/U4wWjHDKZe (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fpb	Oct 27 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| GParted 0.24 Adds ZFS & NVMe Detection - Phoronix		Oct 27 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Companies That Support Linux: Rausch	Oct 27 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	Netzwerktechnik https://t.co/VBIegZMwcs	Oct 27 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Oct 27 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7fpc	Oct 27 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Companies That Support Linux: Rausch Netzwerktechnik \| Linux.com		Oct 27 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UBS upgrades Micro Focus, eyes spin-out of	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	Linux unit https://t.co/Z9AlwIrisb	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk)	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dgfpMTLbFC	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.financialwisdomworks.com)	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cLDauS72Uc (www.octafinance.com)	Oct 27 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk \| UBS upgrades Micro Focus, eyes spin-out of Linux unit		Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7frf	Oct 27 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.financialwisdomworks.com \| Micro Focus International plc Given Average Rating of “Buy” by Brokerages (LON:MCRO) \| Financial Wisdom Works		Oct 27 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.octafinance.com \| UBS Reiterated Micro Focus International (LON:MCRO) As Buy; Has Target Price per Share Of GBX 1460.00 - Octafinance		Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines San Francisco Considers Pioneering Open Source	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	Voting Machine Software https://t.co/SKse5kDJGG	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7frg	Oct 27 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| San Francisco Considers Pioneering Open Source Voting Machine Software \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch with a Mouse Cursor Is Interesting	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	and Cool at the Same Time	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hHMbTGMWqD (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 27 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7frh	Oct 27 20:22
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-7-bsod.jpg	Oct 27 20:51
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 27 21:25
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th1lde_	hi	Oct 27 21:44
XRevan86	th1lde: hi	Oct 27 21:45
th1lde_	I've recently discovered Microsoft Jack.	Oct 27 21:46
th1lde_	how is this guy getting away with it	Oct 27 21:49
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th1lde	"Ask Jack" column in guardian	Oct 27 21:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Mate Tools Bring Ubuntu Flavors to	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi 2 https://t.co/0VN9R6nceC	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(techfrag.com)	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gau	Oct 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techfrag.com \| Ubuntu Mate Tools Bring Ubuntu Flavors to Raspberry Pi 2 - TechFrag		Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is SteamOS Any Faster Than Ubuntu 15.10 Linux?	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4nUdVr6djN (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gav	Oct 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Is SteamOS Any Faster Than Ubuntu 15.10 Linux? - Phoronix		Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “rkt v0.10.0 is here and marks another	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	important milestone on our path to creating the	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	most secure” https://t.co/DbgUYVOpfl	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(coreos.com)	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gaw	Oct 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coreos.com \| rkt v0.10.0: With a New API Service and a Better Image Build Tool		Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/qks066ggfr	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gax	Oct 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/rju3WSfkQS	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gaz	Oct 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jonathan Riddell: Resolving Tension	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LiHfdBVbIn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gb0	Oct 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Jonathan Riddell: Resolving Tension \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/EojatP11bS	Oct 27 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gdf	Oct 27 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Based Ubuntu Phones: Aquaris E4.5 and E5	Oct 27 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	Now In Market https://t.co/1RIM0mw1dD	Oct 27 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gdh	Oct 27 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Based Ubuntu Phones: Aquaris E4.5 and E5 Now In Market \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 22:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Manjaro GNOME 15.09 R2 Arrives with GNOME 3.18.1...'		Oct 27 23:14
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Development Has Started...'		Oct 27 23:14
*TweetTuxMachines @SoluMachines favourited 'Solu Mini-PC Taps Linux for Organic Cloud UI...'		Oct 27 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dJfzm2RvGd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7go9	Oct 27 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mirantis looks to China to fuel OpenStack	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	growth https://t.co/QgcVFMBKzL	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7goa	Oct 27 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mirantis looks to China to fuel OpenStack growth \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/ryevka9T5C	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7gob	Oct 27 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/c2jUvgMHTd	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7goc	Oct 27 23:22
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schestowitz	that’s an october 2014 release…	Oct 28 00:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6751082	Oct 28 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: pidgin-otr 4.0.1 released https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/index.php#news #otr #privacy #communication #pidgin		Oct 28 00:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6749515	Oct 28 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Cinnamon 2.8 and MATE 1.12 to Arrive In a Few Days, Says Clement Lefebvre http://news.softpedia.com/news/cinnamon-2-8-and-mate-1-12-to-arrive-in-a-few-days-says-clement-lefebvre-495352.shtml #lnuxmint		Oct 28 00:12
schestowitz	"Sorry, I am. It’ll be released in November. Pretty soon, an unexpected date for me."	Oct 28 00:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659162596642164736	Oct 28 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @Snowden @schestowitz The only hope now is that 1/2 the GOP in Congress will strangle the other 1/2 of the GOP in Congress, before passing.		Oct 28 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights	Oct 28 00:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lT36nc7Bd3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 00:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7h4z	Oct 28 00:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/lT36nc7Bd3'		Oct 28 00:50
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6752590	Oct 28 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Force #Obama To Weigh In On #Encryption Debate https://theintercept.com/2015/10/27/tech-companies-and-civil-liberties-groups-force-obama-to-weigh-in-on-encryption-debate/ he and #cameron want back doors, MSFT delivers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA		Oct 28 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com \| Tech Companies and Civil Liberties Groups Force Obama To Weigh In On Encryption Debate		Oct 28 00:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now	Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	what? https://t.co/cKDnlkqLfK	Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	(searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com)	Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7hej	Oct 28 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com \| Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now what?		Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xfce Smooth: the smooth variations	Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dsfRZYwukP	Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxblog.darkduck.com)	Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7hek	Oct 28 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com \| Xfce Smooth: the smooth variations - Linux notes from DarkDuck		Oct 28 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM and Apache Spark https://t.co/MGwU8zYgkO	Oct 28 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7hel	Oct 28 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IBM and Apache Spark \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 01:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now	Oct 28 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	what? https://t.co/qinSlh6fc2	Oct 28 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 02:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now what? \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xfce Smooth: the smooth variations	Oct 28 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4r0LaFuyA8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 02:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire 2.17 - Core Update 94 released	Oct 28 02:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659292826820308992 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659292572226068480	Oct 28 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz More are easy to find, if you look at the recent decisions. Also less recent.		Oct 28 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz 01903233 05111312 07716724 04706946 07702856 99916241		Oct 28 09:00
schestowitz	Thanks, which site?	Oct 28 09:00
cubexyz	who is Microsoft Jack?	Oct 28 09:04
cubexyz	oh, that guy	Oct 28 09:06
cubexyz	a pipe smoking idiot	Oct 28 09:07
cubexyz	I wouldn't worry too much about him	Oct 28 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solved: The Case of the Missing SteamOS Icons	Oct 28 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RB7HFGAzca (fossforce.com)	Oct 28 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7imz	Oct 28 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Solved: The Case of the Missing SteamOS Icons \| FOSS Force		Oct 28 09:08
cubexyz	he's full of shit	Oct 28 09:09
cubexyz	no more to say	Oct 28 09:09
cubexyz	you either have source code, or your a slave	Oct 28 09:09
cubexyz	think about Ken Thompson instead	Oct 28 09:10
cubexyz	now which operating system does Thompson use?	Oct 28 09:11
cubexyz	he uses Linux	Oct 28 09:11
cubexyz	now I think that pretty well sums it up	Oct 28 09:11
cubexyz	so talk about Thompson and people like him	Oct 28 09:12
cubexyz	that other guy isn't even worth debating	Oct 28 09:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659296147752767488	Oct 28 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz https://t.co/LxjDNwRqxX online file inspection or case law.		Oct 28 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.epo.org \| EPO - Home		Oct 28 09:13
schestowitz	[09:09] <cubexyz> he's full of shit	Oct 28 09:13
schestowitz	Worse, he promotes MSFT	Oct 28 09:13
schestowitz	[09:13] <cubexyz> that other guy isn't even worth debating	Oct 28 09:13
schestowitz	He can be VERY rude	Oct 28 09:14
schestowitz	[21:46] <th1lde_> I've recently discovered Microsoft Jack.	Oct 28 09:14
schestowitz	[21:49] <th1lde_> how is this guy getting away with it	Oct 28 09:14
cubexyz	sure, but that merely indicates his intellectual level	Oct 28 09:14
schestowitz	He hates it when I call him out	Oct 28 09:14
schestowitz	I think he sort of thretaened me	Oct 28 09:14
schestowitz	and later blocked me in twitter	Oct 28 09:14
schestowitz	we're like big ol' enemies	Oct 28 09:15
schestowitz	but at least he knows his material is being watched	Oct 28 09:15
schestowitz	if he knows he can get called out, that affects his writing and topics	Oct 28 09:15
cubexyz	who invented Unix and C language? not that guy :)	Oct 28 09:15
schestowitz	which is the case with many other writers	Oct 28 09:15
schestowitz	inc. drpizza, MS Petter	Oct 28 09:15
schestowitz	They know their editor is watching their bias	Oct 28 09:15
schestowitz	and being called "Microsoft X" isn't a compliment to them	Oct 28 09:15
cubexyz	didn't drpizza call Microsoft an "evil empire"?	Oct 28 09:16
schestowitz	No way	Oct 28 09:16
schestowitz	maybe as a joke	Oct 28 09:16
schestowitz	like, you know, the 'evil empire', as in Star Wars	Oct 28 09:16
schestowitz	he likes MSFT	Oct 28 09:16
cubexyz	is DrPizza Jason Perlow?	Oct 28 09:16
cubexyz	I guess that must be a different person	Oct 28 09:17
cubexyz	Peter Bright is Drpizza :)	Oct 28 09:18
cubexyz	my mistake	Oct 28 09:18
cubexyz	well I'll just say a lot of stuff comes from BSD	Oct 28 09:19
cubexyz	Bell Labs + BSD	Oct 28 09:19
cubexyz	these journalists aren't important	Oct 28 09:20
cubexyz	ol' Jacko probably doesn't even believe what he writes	Oct 28 09:21
cubexyz	just likes to stir people up, just ignore him	Oct 28 09:21
cubexyz	I know the type	Oct 28 09:22
cubexyz	who cares what a paid astro-turfer says?	Oct 28 09:23
cubexyz	that's basically Microsoft marketing	Oct 28 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android-based “Brillo” IoT OS arrives with	Oct 28 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	hacker SBC support https://t.co/OTYH2IdDbI	Oct 28 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 28 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Android-based "Brillo" IoT OS arrives with hacker SBC support · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 28 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ipm	Oct 28 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu	Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gAzOq4EMhF (www.itworld.com)	Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ipn	Oct 28 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| ITworld		Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10	Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1NLXn1FnMN	Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.adventuresinoss.com)	Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ipo	Oct 28 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com \| First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 \| Adventures in Open Source		Oct 28 09:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia	Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ZtJ6we5ffw (mrpogson.com)	Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7iq7	Oct 28 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia \| Robert Pogson		Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android-based “Brillo” IoT OS arrives with	Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	hacker SBC support https://t.co/8U7dH0l5Ar	Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android-based “Brillo” IoT OS arrives with hacker SBC support \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Opera, Chakra Plasma 5, Riddell Responds	Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zXNgM3ccBX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7iq9	Oct 28 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Opera, Chakra Plasma 5, Riddell Responds \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 09:29
cubexyz	the NSA can't really brick the PC of a knowledgeable user	Oct 28 09:33
cubexyz	there is a defense:	Oct 28 09:33
cubexyz	socketed bios + external programmer (they are cheap these days)	Oct 28 09:33
cubexyz	also I have older computers that have roms for firmware so it's impossible to brick it that way	Oct 28 09:34
cubexyz	it is the new motherboards that worry me	Oct 28 09:35
cubexyz	up to the 1999/2000 era I feel confident, but after that...	Oct 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10	Oct 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cRLIGusenk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ira	Oct 28 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Look at Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kJH3bKSros (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7irc	Oct 28 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Daily Builds	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	Now Available for Download	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Jy7pNdLlPa (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	release date: https://t.co/gVXPuW6NQE	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Daily Builds Now Available for Download - Softpedia		Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ird	Oct 28 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Will Be Released on April 21, 2016 - Softpedia		Oct 28 09:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) Daily Builds Now...'		Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.1.12 LTS Now Available for	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Has a Little Bit of Everything	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5j7GsdwV53 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ire	Oct 28 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.1.12 LTS Now Available for Download, Has a Little Bit of Everything - Softpedia		Oct 28 09:36
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.1.12 LTS Now Available for Download,...'		Oct 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Confirmed: Two Xiaomi Linux Laptops All Set For	Oct 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	Mass Production In 2016 https://t.co/D9pidQKK73	Oct 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techtimes.com)	Oct 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7is2	Oct 28 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Confirmed: Two Xiaomi Linux Laptops All Set For Mass Production In 2016 : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times		Oct 28 09:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/659302403360079872	Oct 28 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Looks like Fedora 23 beta FC6 is being tested today...		Oct 28 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another highly anticipated game comes to gnu	Oct 28 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	linux https://t.co/lSqVT196nS (gamasutra.com)	Oct 28 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QDllgMhO5Y (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7it7	Oct 28 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Alien: Isolation - The Collection Creeps on to PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One Today		Oct 28 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Alien: Isolation - The Collection Arrives on Linux and Mac OS X - Softpedia		Oct 28 09:49
*TweetTuxMachines @mccourt_360 favourited 'Another highly anticipated game comes to gnu linux...'		Oct 28 09:49
schestowitz	"Hah. No backdoor is needed for MSFT. The front door is wiiiiiiide open."	Oct 28 10:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6752590	Oct 28 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Force #Obama To Weigh In On #Encryption Debate https://theintercept.com/2015/10/27/tech-companies-and-civil-liberties-groups-force-obama-to-weigh-in-on-encryption-debate/ he and #cameron want back doors, MSFT delivers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA		Oct 28 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theintercept.com \| Tech Companies and Civil Liberties Groups Force Obama To Weigh In On Encryption Debate [ http://ur1.ca/o7g2t ]		Oct 28 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights		Oct 28 10:28
schestowitz	tell me about it... http://techrights.org/2015/07/25/back-doors-and-front-doors/	Oct 28 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Vista 10 (Windows 10) Has NSA Back Doors and Front Doors \| Techrights		Oct 28 10:28
schestowitz	Oh Nooos! I’ll have to Learn Something New!	Oct 28 10:28
schestowitz	"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6752616"	Oct 28 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now what? http://searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com/feature/Poof-Youre-also-a-Linux-administrator-Now-what #gnu #linux		Oct 28 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> searchwindowsserver.techtarget.com \| Poof! You're also a Linux administrator. Now what?		Oct 28 10:28
schestowitz	"relax, lemgandi, it’s just a cheat sheet for the BOFHs who thought they were too smart all along to have to learn any linux'	Oct 28 10:28
schestowitz	shock and horror, restarting windows isn't "computer skills"	Oct 28 10:29
cubexyz	since when was windows the sole operating system for data centres?	Oct 28 10:33
cubexyz	faulty premise	Oct 28 10:33
cubexyz	early ISPs used BSD	Oct 28 10:33
cubexyz	for the sheeple:	Oct 28 10:38
cubexyz	Microsoft did _not_ invent the following...	Oct 28 10:39
cubexyz	transistor, computer, ethernet, TCP/IP, mouse, keyboard, etc etc :)	Oct 28 10:39
cubexyz	Journalists seem to get dumber every year	Oct 28 10:39
schestowitz	> x http://time.com/4089760/bill-gates-the-early-years/	Oct 28 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Bill Gates: The Early Years		Oct 28 10:44
schestowitz	>	Oct 28 10:44
schestowitz	> Bill "The Internet is just a passing fad" Gates	Oct 28 10:44
schestowitz	meh	Oct 28 10:44
schestowitz	There are many other commercial applications that are not available through official repositories. You can install Google Chrome (which is partially open source) and Dropbox (as there is no official Google Drive client for Linux) by downloading the .deb files to your system.	Oct 28 10:55
schestowitz	Whattt ?	Oct 28 10:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753257	Oct 28 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 7 things to do after installing #Ubuntu http://www.itworld.com/article/2997550/linux/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html #gnu #linux		Oct 28 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| ITworld		Oct 28 10:55
schestowitz	Well, Swapnil's advice...	Oct 28 10:55
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6753486	Oct 28 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Update: $70k Salaries Didn't "Backfire"; Gravity Payments' Profits Have Doubled https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/27/1150219 "raise minimum pay for all employees"		Oct 28 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/10/27/1150219 )		Oct 28 10:59
schestowitz	Not bad...	Oct 28 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP Creates Open Source Network Operating System	Oct 28 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M9XtUuUdvg	Oct 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.business2community.com)	Oct 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j66	Oct 28 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.business2community.com \| HP Creates Open Source Network Operating System		Oct 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Karma: How Open Source changed my life.	Oct 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/E17dci7guo (www.evilsocket.net)	Oct 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j67	Oct 28 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.evilsocket.net \| NO TITLE		Oct 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/dtH6WU52kR (www.theverge.com)	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j69	Oct 28 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone \| The Verge		Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source and business processes key to big	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	data analytics future https://t.co/gzoX55hxZS	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j6a	Oct 28 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source and business processes key to big data analytics future \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Antoine Jacoutot	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q7itMN00JE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j6b	Oct 28 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Antoine Jacoutot \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Karma: How Open Source changed my life.	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/r9rLS8Av8i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j6c	Oct 28 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Karma: How Open Source changed my life. \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/deN6Anzhzg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j72	Oct 28 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HTC One A9 review: the Android iPhone \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google steps up in the war against Android	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	bloatware https://t.co/X84T5HNI5i	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j73	Oct 28 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google steps up in the war against Android bloatware \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 Screencast and Screenshots	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jgcHpOtWlR	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxquestions.org)	Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j74	Oct 28 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org \| Ubuntu 15.10 Screencast and Screenshots		Oct 28 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Alien Isolation Looks Like On The	Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	Open-Source AMD Linux Driver	Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NZmEkKDDW0 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j7s	Oct 28 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| What Alien Isolation Looks Like On The Open-Source AMD Linux Driver - Phoronix		Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release,	Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	Several Bugs Were Fixed https://t.co/mf3CEsoegm	Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 11:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j7t	Oct 28 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several Bugs Were Fixed - Softpedia		Oct 28 11:28
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several...'		Oct 28 11:34
*TweetTuxMachines @SLHBENNETT followed @tuxmachines		Oct 28 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android Flagships In 2016: Samsung Galaxy	Oct 28 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	S7, LG G5, Xiaomi Mi 5 And More	Oct 28 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4AFiOZ1rjc (www.techtimes.com)	Oct 28 11:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7j8g	Oct 28 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Best Android Flagships In 2016: Samsung Galaxy S7, LG G5, Xiaomi Mi 5 And More : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times		Oct 28 11:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753258	Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz	"	Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz	Skip the 6th step !	Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz	Try an owncloud Instance	Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz	PRISM exit	Oct 28 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu http://www.itworld.com/article/2997550/linux/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html		Oct 28 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com \| 7 things to do after installing Ubuntu \| ITworld		Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz	[09:16] <cubexyz> is DrPizza Jason Perlow?	Oct 28 12:08
schestowitz	Perlow is a Microsoft employee now	Oct 28 12:08
schestowitz	He also writes for ZDNet	Oct 28 12:08
schestowitz	No conflict of interests ;-)	Oct 28 12:08
schestowitz	[09:24] <cubexyz> that's basically Microsoft marketing	Oct 28 12:08
schestowitz	Microsofting	Oct 28 12:08
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cubexyz	oh didn't realize Perlow worked for microsoft	Oct 28 12:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google steps up in the war against Android	Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	bloatware https://t.co/eUAkq6iGlU	Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com)	Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfq	Oct 28 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| Google steps up in the war against Android bloatware - TechRepublic		Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Insurgency FPS Now Officially Available On	Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/ivSX0UW0Uz	Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 28 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfr	Oct 28 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Insurgency FPS Now Officially Available On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Oct 28 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release,	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	Several Bugs Were Fixed https://t.co/IbtxdPujdJ	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jfy	Oct 28 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several Bugs Were Fixed \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Iconic Linux debate sparks an open source	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	career https://t.co/FA5YLIXTzN	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Iconic Linux debate sparks an open source career \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OyfZpArHhS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jg0	Oct 28 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GParted 0.24.0 Partition Editor Software	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	Arrives with Support for ZFS Filesystems	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z6xgK2BYB3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jg1	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered	Oct 28 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GParted 0.24.0 Partition Editor Software Arrives with Support for ZFS Filesystems \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DJfOPT7lNp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jg3	Oct 28 12:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 Gets Its First Point Release, Several...'		Oct 28 12:48
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GParted 0.24.0 Partition Editor Software Arrives with Support...'		Oct 28 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7 \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered...'		Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Iconic Linux debate sparks an open source	Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	career https://t.co/guC7cGz27W (opensource.com)	Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jlg	Oct 28 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Cesar Brod: My Linux Story \| Opensource.com		Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager	Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e373CAacct (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jlh	Oct 28 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Beauty of the i3 Tiling Window Manager - My Linux Rig		Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered	Oct 28 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7	Oct 28 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQSFE1Timk (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jmd	Oct 28 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Be Powered Soon by Linux Kernel 4.3 RC7 - Softpedia		Oct 28 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SUSE: Rolling Awesome of the Day	Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MlVIhSOv2J (news.opensuse.org)	Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jme	Oct 28 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org \| openSUSE News		Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RaspEX Linux Distro Brings Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily	Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	Werewolf) to Raspberry Pi 2	Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/t8lDSOe69W (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jmf	Oct 28 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| RaspEX Linux Distro Brings Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Oct 28 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BDTgHzj5jV	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterpriseirregulars.com) ...	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SvpoRmJTDQ (joindiaspora.com)	Oct 28 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterpriseirregulars.com \| Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value - Enterprise Irregulars		Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jnk	Oct 28 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://joindiaspora.com/p/6754011 )		Oct 28 13:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT https://t.co/BDTgHzj5jV...'		Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BDTgHzj5jV	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterpriseirregulars.com)	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jnl	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tracking hamster activity with a Raspberry Pi	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jTvXBoUyAr (opensource.com)	Oct 28 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jnp	Oct 28 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Tracking hamster activity with a Raspberry Pi \| Opensource.com		Oct 28 13:58
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/dun-dun-dun-fossforce-microsoft-ad.png	Oct 28 14:03
cubexyz	sure, I want the most gummed up locked down computer ever :-P	Oct 28 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Next weekend "opening of the merge window for	Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.4." https://t.co/2O0eTUxTWL	Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jol	Oct 28 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Looking Forward To The Linux 4.4 Merge Window Next Week - Phoronix		Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau	Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	and Radeon Graphics Drivers	Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vMIyuqj8Ja (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jom	Oct 28 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau and Radeon Graphics Drivers - Softpedia		Oct 28 14:07
*TweetTuxMachines @javiermarti favourited 'Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value...'		Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On: Adding UEFI boot to Tanglu Linux 4.0	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Alpha https://t.co/NJ84oLzAiS	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jpz	Oct 28 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hands-On: Adding UEFI boot to Tanglu Linux 4.0 Alpha \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiaomi preps Linux laptops for the post	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Christmas sales rush https://t.co/sVxC3ecmWL	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7jq0	Oct 28 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xiaomi preps Linux laptops for the post Christmas sales rush \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 14:18
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6754200	Oct 28 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sepp "there was [secret] agreement in place for the 2018 World Cup" http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sepp-blatter-admits-fifa-planned-6721611 like #battistelli & #MSFT http://techrights.org/2015/10/02/epo-and-microsoft/		Oct 28 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mirror.co.uk \| Sepp Blatter admits FIFA planned to award Russia the 2018 World Cup before vote even took place - Mirror Online		Oct 28 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft’s Secret Special Relationship With EPO Illustrates Serious Corruption at Microsoft and the EPO \| Techrights		Oct 28 14:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/sham-windows-security-message.png	Oct 28 14:51
cubexyz	noooo... don't	Oct 28 14:51
cubexyz	crash my data :)	Oct 28 14:51
cubexyz	I hate it when my data crashes	Oct 28 14:52
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/sham-windows-message-better-view.png	Oct 28 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and	Oct 28 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	Available to Download https://t.co/GXHLK4DEps	Oct 28 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k05	Oct 28 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and Available to Download \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	and Radeon Graphics Drivers	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OxwMMO0IlJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0b	Oct 28 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.14.56 LTS Updates the Nouveau and Radeon Graphics Drivers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack Foundation https://t.co/Wd2d4McUBh	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0c	Oct 28 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenStack Foundation \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source would not have prevented VW	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	problems https://t.co/Sqa8oQodi5	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0d	Oct 28 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open source would not have prevented VW problems \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lxGOPUUawe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0e	Oct 28 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Veeam announces Backup for Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/os4a2ljPRL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7k0f	Oct 28 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Veeam announces Backup for Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 15:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659404417981108224	Oct 28 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz thanks! Will RT shortly. Just RT'd the EPO secret deals story		Oct 28 16:23
schestowitz	you have changed your tune recently, for the better....	Oct 28 16:23
schestowitz	The big money, a patent lawyer recently told me, is in helping large corporations. But history remember those who fight the good fight.	Oct 28 16:24
schestowitz	*remembers	Oct 28 16:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753486	Oct 28 16:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6753817	Oct 28 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 28 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Oct 28 16:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659406381850710016	Oct 28 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Thanks. I never liked software patents. I thought some companies had strong ones but couldn't ignore outcome of all those suits		Oct 28 16:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659406774596931584	Oct 28 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I actually believe the big money is in very successful apps :-) and it's far more fun to make real products		Oct 28 16:31
schestowitz	IIRC, you're back to doing some development. It helps one appreciate how just unnecessary #swpats are	Oct 28 16:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5LTACjuNha (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kaa	Oct 28 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Serving the Underserved with Open Source Mobile	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	Infrastructure https://t.co/2VGCoqJWVD	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kab	Oct 28 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Serving the Underserved with Open Source Mobile Infrastructure \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DHqcbn9CIA	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 16:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kac	Oct 28 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 16:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6751187	Oct 28 16:53
schestowitz	"SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS"	Oct 28 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #BlackBerry $699 #Android gambit is too much too late http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/9614604/priv-android-phone-hardware-future-of-blackberry should have moves to #linux 5+ years ago		Oct 28 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theverge.com \| BlackBerry’s $699 Android gambit is too much too late \| The Verge		Oct 28 16:53
schestowitz	So the government can track, listen and watch you while you can make phonecalls and send text message with tiny buttons.	Oct 28 16:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/DHqcbn9CIA	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7keu	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops,	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	Integration Has Started https://t.co/fJE0P2wshI	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7key	Oct 28 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops, Integration Has Started \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	leaders https://t.co/wy8PoV69hI	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kf2	Oct 28 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud leaders \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/LcROueODxb	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kf3	Oct 28 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 15.10	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	'Wily Werewolf' https://t.co/bhvKRNeqAa	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kf4	Oct 28 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 15.10 'Wily Werewolf' \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 17:23
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/forced-upgrades-article.pdf	Oct 28 17:32
cubexyz	I think the forced upgrades by Microsoft should drive people away from windows	Oct 28 17:38
cubexyz	I just can't believe people will tolerate that	Oct 28 17:38
cubexyz	the downloads and bandwidth requirements just get bigger and bigger	Oct 28 17:39
cubexyz	it's untenable	Oct 28 17:40
cubexyz	this really goes beyond just not getting source code... the windows system is just inferior by a big margin	Oct 28 17:41
MinceR	people's wills have grown very weak	Oct 28 17:41
MinceR	they tolerate and sometimes even praise the abuse they receive from m$, crApple and redcrap	Oct 28 17:41
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cubexyz	I blame the media too	Oct 28 17:45
cubexyz	all people ever see is ads for microsoft products, they permeate the internet, retail stores, even the news programs on tv	Oct 28 17:46
cubexyz	schools teach microsoft mostly	Oct 28 17:46
cubexyz	the Universities should know better	Oct 28 17:47
cubexyz	at least I hope so	Oct 28 17:47
schestowitz	lobbying and bribes	Oct 28 17:48
schestowitz	they have more power, but people don't like to talk in criminal terms	Oct 28 17:48
schestowitz	they're rather pretend it's about merit and stuff	Oct 28 17:49
schestowitz	not financial incentive and toxic influence, fear of boss etc.	Oct 28 17:49
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cubexyz	scientists seem to know better	Oct 28 17:52
cubexyz	at least some of them	Oct 28 17:52
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/reuse-computers.txt	Oct 28 17:55
cubexyz	eused is selling linux computers cheap	Oct 28 17:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SOLVED - VirtualBox Is Not Installing In Ubuntu	Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	15.10 Due To Missing Dependency "Libvpx1"	Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/40H3MfkZfk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kp9	Oct 28 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SOLVED - VirtualBox Is Not Installing In Ubuntu 15.10 Due To Missing Dependency "Libvpx1" \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/LcROueODxb	Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kjk	Oct 28 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	Available to Download https://t.co/Es3fXH6Ein	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kqu	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mO2rZhX8h5 (www.itweb.co.za)	Oct 28 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za \| Veeam announces Backup for Linux \| ITWeb		Oct 28 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7krd	Oct 28 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India	Oct 28 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WXPoXT0K4b (www.linuxveda.com)	Oct 28 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7krz	Oct 28 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India \| Linux Veda		Oct 28 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Get the Major OTA-8 Update in	Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	Two Weeks, Feature Freeze in Effect	Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5Jwm90LW5h (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ksk	Oct 28 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch to Get the Major OTA-8 Update in Two Weeks, Feature Freeze in Effect - Softpedia		Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud	Oct 28 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	[sic] leaders https://t.co/xIuwyZ2B2j	Oct 28 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Oct 28 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ksz	Oct 28 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud leaders \| ZDNet		Oct 28 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops,	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	Integration Has Started https://t.co/3XD9JsfGW2	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ktt	Oct 28 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops, Integration Has Started - Softpedia		Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y8yv7y7mwY	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.thehindubusinessline.com)	Oct 28 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com \| Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India \| Business Line		Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kud	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "around three-quarters of businesses use Linux	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	as a primary cloud platform"	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4e7u0s5aqS (www.cloudpro.co.uk)	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V8q7jRbnL4	Oct 28 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk \| Veeam releases free back up tool for enterprise Linux servers \| Cloud Pro		Oct 28 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| Veeam cleans up dirty backup worries on Linux - Open Source Insider		Oct 28 18:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/659442640291803136	Oct 28 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@haniefhaider: Is this Mark Shuttleworth company?<<@schestowitz: Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India https://t.co/OR5qPzZyfa #ubuntu #linux #india"		Oct 28 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Oct 28 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kw5	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines College partners with Dell and Red Hat --	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	embraces open source and Linux solutions	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Erjq1uuBBD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| College partners with Dell and Red Hat -- embraces open source and Linux solutions \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kwd	Oct 28 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/Jcen8KMtie	Oct 28 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kx3	Oct 28 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tor: a landmark for hidden services	Oct 28 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PSGzfiUUOj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxc	Oct 28 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tor: a landmark for hidden services \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet	Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PIIsOd6i9k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxj	Oct 28 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google, HP, Huawei Support of OpenStack	Oct 28 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/to4U59xZSZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxt	Oct 28 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google, HP, Huawei Support of OpenStack \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/droosien/status/659450234808967168	Oct 28 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@droosien: True https://t.co/XpFcFwC3mB		Oct 28 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: .@droosien @Snowden The perfect #nsa mascot is already 'taken', and it's not a hoax https://t.co/bPaY3Bu7S2		Oct 28 19:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659450278987608064	Oct 28 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Patent attorney cracks joke on LinkedIn re. EPO preferred applicants policy. Has a point. @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/uxInGYENmu		Oct 28 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Patent attorney cracks joke on LinkedIn re. EPO preferred applicants policy. Has a point. @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/uxInGYENmu		Oct 28 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines College partners with Dell and Red Hat --	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	embraces open source and Linux solutions	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GymFYjmLft (betanews.com)	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l4y	Oct 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| College partners with Dell and Red Hat -- embraces open source and Linux solutions		Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Old iMac Ubuntu Studio Installation	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XYkGBPG0ya (freedompenguin.com)	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	"getting more life out of the old Mac."	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l4z	Oct 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com \| Old iMac Ubuntu Studio Installation - Freedom Penguin		Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mTOnp7do0s (www.linux.com)	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l52	Oct 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet \| Linux.com		Oct 28 19:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459214331392000	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AltLegalHQ @schestowitz @FOSSpatents Appeals court: Google Books 'fair use' (FOR SNIPPETS) standard helps Oracle in Android-Java case vs.G.		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AltLegalHQ/status/659459395118604288	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AltLegalHQ: @schestowitz thanks for the RT!		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459591009210368	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @lmbrownlee1 App. court: Google Books 'fair use' (FOR SNIPPETS) standard helps Oracle in Android-Java case vs. G. @AltLegalHQ @schestowitz		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459853857878017	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Only "Tax Fraud"...? https://t.co/2rX3gYSdHp		Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The IRS Has Stingrays … But We Knew Stingrays Have Been Used to Chase Tax Fraud https://t.co/2llRkqJt8i #stingray #irs		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	They start as tax cheats and next thing you know.... THEY JOIN ISIS!	Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/morvjn/status/659457177996914688	Oct 28 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@morvjn: @schestowitz Always remember: Goverment has unlimited ressources to destroy targets, unlike companies...		Oct 28 20:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659460651228643328	Oct 28 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Was wondering about IRS use in mere COLLECTION, as contrasted with T.F. crimes, per se.		Oct 28 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMandriva Forums https://t.co/hFQuXHkLVq	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com)	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lav	Oct 28 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com \| Mandriva Linux Chronicles: OpenMandriva Forums		Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Reportedly Planning Big Driver Update For	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	November https://t.co/pCWuPfNZkC	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7law	Oct 28 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| AMD Reportedly Planning Big Driver Update For November - Phoronix		Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Benchmarks Of NWI's Insurgency FPS Game	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	On Linux https://t.co/g1OiOy2vvI	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lax	Oct 28 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA Benchmarks Of NWI's Insurgency FPS Game On Linux - Phoronix		Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Gigantic New Android Tablet	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FeGAh055I8 (time.com)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf6	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Samsung's New Galaxy View Tablet Wants To Replace Your TV		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8bGXTxIVWB (www.blacklablinux.org)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf7	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org \| Black Lab Linux: Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gImageReader 3.1.2 Brings Fixes And Updates	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/K2lyWqssBx (linuxg.net)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf8	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| gImageReader 3.1.2 Brings Fixes And Updates \| LinuxG.net		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Gigantic New Android Tablet	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LqdkLKOSZ0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lff	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This Gigantic New Android Tablet \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux cousins Part 2: Reviewing ReactOS, the	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source version of Windows	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z7GO4bGgeX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lfk	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux cousins Part 2: Reviewing ReactOS, the Open Source version of Windows \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 5.1 in final development stage	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/C45F4c63IP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lfl	Oct 28 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 5.1 in final development stage \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alien Isolation, Insurgency, and Missing	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS Icons https://t.co/larNbyMtes	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lfo	Oct 28 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Alien Isolation, Insurgency, and Missing SteamOS Icons \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 20:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659469290530304000	Oct 28 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz @glynmoody I think we know who the Master is, but Who is the Doctor?		Oct 28 20:39
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/genesis-of-epo-microsoft-ties/	Oct 28 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO’s Jeremy Philpott Confirms That Discriminatory (Software) Patent Processing Practices Started With Microsoft, Because of Microsoft \| Techrights		Oct 28 20:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JSgmlyKNf8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lmq	Oct 28 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rackspace serves up free Carina Docker-based	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	container-as-a-service beta on OpenStack	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/opvR1oR2PU (www.zdnet.com)	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lmr	Oct 28 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Rackspace serves up free Carina Docker-based container-as-a-service beta on OpenStack \| ZDNet		Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Batman: Arkham Knight Delayed For Linux Until	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Next Spring https://t.co/NEgPuR5TCz	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) requires proprietary OS	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	then...	Oct 28 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Batman: Arkham Knight Delayed For Linux Until Next Spring - Phoronix		Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lms	Oct 28 21:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I’ve made the iPhone 6s into my dream Android	Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	phone https://t.co/a3VZEAs61K (bgr.com)	Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lox	Oct 28 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| iPhone 6s Google apps: Android no longer needed \| BGR		Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora summer 2016 internships.	Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n3e2eWSQ0P (paul.frields.org)	Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7loy	Oct 28 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org \| Fedora summer 2016 internships. - The Grand Fallacy		Oct 28 21:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @iphone_romania favourited 'I’ve made the iPhone 6s into my dream...'		Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/bCVALvOous	Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ltv	Oct 28 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora: The Latest \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/9ozWrYJ8Lt	Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lty	Oct 28 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice and Government	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HmCe0BZBv6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lw6	Oct 28 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice and Government \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/YKG64R6dtt	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lw7	Oct 28 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/JwsfV9jSho	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lwa	Oct 28 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 22:10
MinceR	http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/10/28/un-urges-japan-to-ban-sexual-images-of-children-in-manga-japanese-netizens-tell-un-to-shut-up/	Oct 28 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.rocketnews24.com \| UN urges Japan to ban sexual images of children in manga, Japanese netizens tell UN to shut up \| RocketNews24		Oct 28 22:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi's GNU/Linux Laptops	Oct 28 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	and OpenStack's Massive Expansion	Oct 28 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/33WxIRymvh (techrights.org)	Oct 28 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7m8l	Oct 28 23:21
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi's GNU/Linux Laptops and OpenStack's Massive...'		Oct 28 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi’s GNU/Linux Laptops and OpenStack’s Massive Expansion \| Techrights		Oct 28 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the	Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	NEW Ten Game Trinity 3 Bundle from Bundle Stars	Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ixulT4TwCS (www.gamasutra.com)	Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7m9p	Oct 28 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the NEW Ten Game Trinity 3 Bundle from Bundle Stars		Oct 28 23:29
*TweetTuxMachines @GameDevBRbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the...'		Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4soBZ04AhZ	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7m9y	Oct 28 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/FDCinSlp0d	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7m9z	Oct 28 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Workstation update	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7k1ZTAWvV9 (blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ma2	Oct 28 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2015/10/28/fedora-workstation-23-24-update/ )		Oct 28 23:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init	Oct 29 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	Scripts https://t.co/7k1ZTAWvV9	Oct 29 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	(blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 29 00:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init...'		Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	Scripts https://t.co/bDimXwXoHD	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7msg	Oct 29 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init Scripts - Phoronix		Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Subsurface 4.5(.1) Released	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gvDACgRwt8	Oct 29 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GOG Have More Dungeons & Dragons Available On	Oct 29 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/YV8NOqfMSw	Oct 29 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 29 02:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@baseanswers ODF(tm) World News is out!	Oct 29 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aPAwJP0qBP (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 29 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @LOcommits @Schiggy69	Oct 29 07:35
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schestowitz	> "He has already arguably significantly changed the world... "	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> x	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/11959711/bill-gates-turns-60-5-ways-he-wants-to-change-the-world.html	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Bill Gates turns 60: five ways he wants to change the world - Telegraph		Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> ... albeit for the worse. He's made bad engineering acceptable. Now	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> pushing zero-rating	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	Together with Zuckerberg	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> "The subscription fee will give users unlimited, automatic cloud	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> storage of their all of their Solu data."	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> ...	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> "Solu runs on a Linux-based operating system called Solu OS."	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> http://yle.fi/uutiset/with_pocket-size_desktop_solu_aims_to_change_computing/8413937	Oct 29 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi \| With pocket-size desktop, Solu aims to change computing \| Yle Uutiset \| yle.fi		Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> GNU also?	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> ==	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/mark-zuckerberg-in-india-defends-facebooks-plan-to-expand-internet-access/	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> zero-rating	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> ==	Oct 29 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/o7obf ]		Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> intro:	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> paper:	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf	Oct 29 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.invisiblethings.org \| Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)		Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> not sure why it's PDF instead of xHTML	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659660685463396352	Oct 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Blogger @schestowitz says he's being threatened by the EPO but can't be more specific yet. https://t.co/lDtkkxjxjy		Oct 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents @glynmoody I can't say yet		Oct 29 09:24
schestowitz	> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11959016/Apple-reports-biggest-annual-profit-in-history.html	Oct 29 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Apple reports biggest annual profit in history with net income of $53.4bn - Telegraph		Oct 29 09:34
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:34
schestowitz	> overcharging by that much	Oct 29 09:34
schestowitz	And putting the money abroad, to dodge tax.	Oct 29 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sharing Work Is Easier With An Open Document	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	Format https://t.co/DwfjcrIw0p	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7of5	Oct 29 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sharing Work Is Easier With An Open Document Format \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kirin brews OpenStack private cloud to reduce	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	IT operation costs by 75 percent	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b0sGgkkG1H (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7of6	Oct 29 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kirin brews OpenStack private cloud to reduce IT operation costs by 75 percent \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 09:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/659668780855988224	Oct 29 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Oct 29 09:58
schestowitz	"Just so we're clear, it's called the "Ellison effect". Shill marketers with sleazy tactics selling proprietary tech. "	Oct 29 09:58
schestowitz	Tweet deleted now	Oct 29 09:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659669763426287616	Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz a very important fight! wish you best of success. @glynmoody		Oct 29 09:59
schestowitz	re EPO	Oct 29 09:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/659670300435451904	Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainiarc7: And Lo, and behold, another backdoor is unveiled. https://t.co/HBGjx1igVX		Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cisco a back doors company https://t.co/6xxwf6g9F7		Oct 29 09:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SoluMachines/status/659671212277301248	Oct 29 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SoluMachines: @schestowitz we haven't made any decision on whether to open source Solu's full OS. Obviously kernel tweaks will be pushed upstream.		Oct 29 10:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659672172374441984	Oct 29 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz you must, I believe.		Oct 29 10:06
schestowitz	I am, but it's expensive	Oct 29 10:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659672986006511616	Oct 29 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz expensive what? The possible lawsuit?		Oct 29 10:08
schestowitz	Lawyer fees	Oct 29 10:08
schestowitz	I will publish the details next month, patience needed here	Oct 29 10:09
cubexyz	Don't trust Gates the Extractor, that's my advice	Oct 29 10:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659673656637943809	Oct 29 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz great. @FOSSpatents you may like to know it too. Dr. Roy will release the documents next month.		Oct 29 10:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6756917	Oct 29 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Email #Encryption Is Broken http://motherboard.vice.com/read/email-encryption-is-broken there are alternative methods for comms		Oct 29 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Email Encryption Is Broken \| Motherboard		Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	Mailservers can be configured to deny mail intake without TLS. They can also be configured to deny delivery to servers without TLS.	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	Mailclients can be configured to deny communication without TLS.	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	As is the case with Email end-to-end encryption: People need to do something for themselves and should not perpetually rely on others to solve their (privacy) issues.	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: joshua stein	Oct 29 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/22tOkB4bsc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ojs	Oct 29 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: joshua stein \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fMHLk8GSd9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ojt	Oct 29 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 5.1 to Start Twice as Fast, Has MS	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	Office 2016 Interoperability	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ANWHBySsUe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oju	Oct 29 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 5.1 to Start Twice as Fast, Has MS Office 2016 Interoperability \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle striving to become #1 Linux vendor	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AuZz0NTQde (siliconangle.com)	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7okd	Oct 29 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com \| Oracle striving to become #1 Linux vendor \| #oow15 \| SiliconANGLE		Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 1-Net Is Canonical's First Ubuntu Certified	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	Public Cloud Partner in South East Asia	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pGGuijJ7k6 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oke	Oct 29 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| 1-Net Is Canonical's First Ubuntu Certified Public Cloud Partner in South East Asia - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 Will Be an LTS Release	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Rlk7xXeFC (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7okf	Oct 29 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 Will Be an LTS Release - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.10.92 LTS Is a Small Release,	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Adds M68k and SPARC Fixes	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qVGVarcytt (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7olb	Oct 29 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.10.92 LTS Is a Small Release, Adds M68k and SPARC Fixes - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/18x9xxr7fV (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7olc	Oct 29 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	high-end disguise https://t.co/IZlopsvdgM	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7old	Oct 29 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in high-end disguise \| The Verge		Oct 29 10:24
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6757120	Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #softpedia looks at the latest of #gnome & #gtk http://news.softpedia.com/news/gtk-plus-prepares-for-gnome-3-20-adds-new-apis-and-wayland-fixes-more-495464.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-evolution-groupware-client-now-uses-oauth2-for-google-sources-495461.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-photos-3-20-enters-development-fixes-many-annoying-issues-495459.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GTK+ Prepares for GNOME 3.20, Adds New APIs and Wayland Fixes, More - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME's Evolution Groupware Client Now Uses OAuth2 for Google Sources - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Photos 3.20 Enters Development, Fixes Many Annoying Issues - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Logs Open-Source Log Viewer for the systemd Journal Has a New Maintainer - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6756954	Oct 29 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Lego Tells Political Artist To Hit The Bricks, Refusing To Sell Him Legos https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151026/06581732635/lego-tells-political-artist-to-hit-bricks-refusing-to-sell-him-legos.shtml always been a ruthless, PR-centric company		Oct 29 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Lego Tells Political Artist To Hit The Bricks, Refusing To Sell Him Legos \| Techdirt		Oct 29 10:36
msb_	cubexyz: Did you see this? http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf	Oct 29 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.invisiblethings.org \| Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)		Oct 29 10:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Z2qtzlnMjj (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ood	Oct 29 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The State Of Fedora Workstation 23, Looking	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead To Fedora 24 https://t.co/vT5DMoYBL4	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ooe	Oct 29 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| The State Of Fedora Workstation 23, Looking Ahead To Fedora 24 - Phoronix		Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines softpedia looks at the latest of gnome & gtk	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hwKpEbety3 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wa3xbnxW0k (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/neDSfucxMI (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ngfIROGMEF (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oof	Oct 29 10:42
cubexyz	that's why it's so important to have BIOS source code	Oct 29 10:51
cubexyz	as I stated before, the current situation is rather poor	Oct 29 10:51
cubexyz	AMI won't upgrade orphaned BIOS without tons of $$$	Oct 29 10:52
cubexyz	keep some older computers around is my advice...	Oct 29 10:52
cubexyz	older computers == no SMM, no DASH, and even BIOS source code in some cases	Oct 29 10:53
cubexyz	if the BIOS is backdoored from the factory you have no chance at all	Oct 29 10:54
cubexyz	you'd have to run coreboot or reverse engineer the BIOS, which can be very difficult and take years of work	Oct 29 10:54
cubexyz	probably why the nukes still use PDP-11, it's the only thing they trust	Oct 29 10:58
cubexyz	if intel backdoors the CPU it's game over	Oct 29 10:58
cubexyz	also the idea that coreboot always runs the FSP before the BIOS is incorrect	Oct 29 11:09
cubexyz	on older motherboards don't have FSP	Oct 29 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Short SMARC COM runs Linux on Bay Trail over	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	wide temps https://t.co/0V9x90vu6R	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7osa	Oct 29 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Short SMARC COM runs Linux on Bay Trail over wide temps · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	high-end disguise https://t.co/Wh1wdL8bho	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7osb	Oct 29 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in high-end disguise \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:11
cubexyz	the Intel Firmware Support Package is a relatively new thing	Oct 29 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The new era of community	Oct 29 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/X5frBOUnBI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7osc	Oct 29 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The new era of community \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:12
msb_	Checksums the BIOS?	Oct 29 11:13
cubexyz	also the FSP is optional	Oct 29 11:14
cubexyz	you can get non-FSP motheboards	Oct 29 11:14
cubexyz	the trick of course is to know what you're buying	Oct 29 11:14
cubexyz	award bios from 1999 has no mention of FSP, so that's in the clear	Oct 29 11:15
cubexyz	I don't remember checksum, do a byte-by-byte comparison of your BIOS with a known BIOS image or even better, generate the BIOS yourself from source code	Oct 29 11:16
cubexyz	that PDF article doesn't consider older technology	Oct 29 11:24
cubexyz	they make the assumption that everyone always upgrades to latest and greatest, which is not true	Oct 29 11:25
cubexyz	older motherboards do NOT have the Intel Management Engine	Oct 29 11:27
cubexyz	anything old enough to be passively cooled for example	Oct 29 11:28
cubexyz	doesn't need the thermal stuff	Oct 29 11:28
cubexyz	we have a crap situation though regarding heat which always astounds me	Oct 29 11:30
cubexyz	basically the OEMs are selling overheating hardware	Oct 29 11:30
cubexyz	it's basically designed to fail	Oct 29 11:31
cubexyz	all the older P4's failed... all of them	Oct 29 11:31
cubexyz	but the older P3's survived mostly	Oct 29 11:31
cubexyz	and of course, even older stuff survives, assuming one takes good care of the equipment and uses a UPS	Oct 29 11:32
cubexyz	some of the BSODs on windows were really due to heat damage on the motherboard	Oct 29 11:32
cubexyz	very old stuff like PDP-11s and PDP-10s could overheat too... the power supplies radiated a LOT of heat	Oct 29 11:33
cubexyz	I can list a number of P3 computers that didn't overheat:	Oct 29 11:33
cubexyz	Tyan servers I built myself did not overheat... even running 100% cpu for weeks	Oct 29 11:34
cubexyz	the IBM PC 300GL, never overheated... which is why you still see the odd one today	Oct 29 11:35
cubexyz	P3 400 mhz with no fan... just a big heat sink	Oct 29 11:35
cubexyz	of course Eququests with low powered 486 CPUs didn't overheat, but they would fail in other ways... the caps in the monitor would fail	Oct 29 11:36
cubexyz	5V Pentiums got pretty hot, didn't see many of those survive the test of time	Oct 29 11:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xGs4L562e (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ovm	Oct 29 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:41
cubexyz	personally I think the systems engineering is pretty crap nowadays	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/QU97Owpwk4	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ovn	Oct 29 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tumbleweed Rolling Along, Leap Release Imminent	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qoQckFx1fA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ovp	Oct 29 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tumbleweed Rolling Along, Leap Release Imminent \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Ubuntu is different from Debian	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/j6WuKCWrXi (www.unixmen.com)	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ovq	Oct 29 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com \| How Ubuntu is different from Debian \| Unixmen		Oct 29 11:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/659705568387559424	Oct 29 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz And will be more different, over time. Mark will do something to distance from the distro and that init system by RH.		Oct 29 12:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/659715798219546624	Oct 29 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz It seems most orgs dislike when a public figure condemns them, they always try to nullify the threat to the status quo.		Oct 29 13:02
cubexyz	stuff like rowhammer only works because DRAM cells have gotten so small	Oct 29 13:08
cubexyz	again, this doesn't happen on older tech	Oct 29 13:09
msb_	Probably not many people have older computers laying around, because they bought a new one when the older one stopped working.	Oct 29 13:19
cubexyz	assuming no heat damage it's power supplies and capacitors that fail most often	Oct 29 13:21
cubexyz	of course hard drives will probably fail	Oct 29 13:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/659720632997953536	Oct 29 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz "Terrorists" like Belgacom, Merkel, The UN, etc		Oct 29 13:22
cubexyz	but I'd say it's the software obsolescence that plays a factor also	Oct 29 13:23
msb_	You have my phone number. Please give me a call when you learn that the missiles are going to fly, so I can duck and cover.	Oct 29 13:23
cubexyz	new operating comes out... runs like a turd on old computer, old computer gets put in closet or out to the curb	Oct 29 13:24
cubexyz	I'm more like Ralph Nader than William Blum :)	Oct 29 13:27
cubexyz	I'm advocating computers and operating systems that last a long time	Oct 29 13:28
cubexyz	what could the average dude do if the missiles were really launched?	Oct 29 13:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757429	Oct 29 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "effects of art censorship or unjustified restrictions of the right to freedom of artistic expression and creativity" http://freemuse.org/archives/11301		Oct 29 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freemuse.org \| Zimbabwe: Censorship board should be abolished, says workshop group \| Freemuse		Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	[13:27] <cubexyz> I'm more like Ralph Nader than William Blum :)	Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	Did Blum write anything about MSFT?	Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	I know Nader did	Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	ages ago	Oct 29 13:31
msb_	RUK: Yes, the old ones. ... It became necessary to destroy them.	Oct 29 13:32
cubexyz	schestowitz, only obiquely, I would say	Oct 29 13:32
cubexyz	and strictly in a political context	Oct 29 13:33
cubexyz	e.g. Blum wrote about Microsoft banning Cuba from using their instant messaging network	Oct 29 13:34
msb_	RUK: That was the equation! (grabs Kirk by the neck) Existence! Survival! Must cancel out programming!	Oct 29 13:34
cubexyz	great lines :)	Oct 29 13:35
cubexyz	"You came from the outside. You bring disorder here."	Oct 29 13:35
msb_	If only people realized that their existence was being threatened, they might drop their programming.	Oct 29 13:36
cubexyz	each generation has to figure it out for themselves	Oct 29 13:36
msb_	That's my favorite line from all of Star Trek. If only Ruk had dropped Kirk into the abyss, things would have been so much better. Kirk destr0yed every happy culture he encountered.	Oct 29 13:40
cubexyz	Nader was pretty savvy, he knew about Xerox	Oct 29 13:41
cubexyz	https://mondediplo.com/1997/11/nader	Oct 29 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mondediplo.com \| What to do about Microsoft? - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition		Oct 29 13:42
msb_	Even that immortal guy, who was Brahms and various other geniuses. He finally succeeded in building an android woman companion for himself who was as smart as he was. So Kirk "fell in love" with her and shorted her out.	Oct 29 13:44
msb_	Kirk -- whose name of course means "church" -- ruined everything.	Oct 29 13:44
cubexyz	it's implied in the title Flint was also Methuselah	Oct 29 13:46
msb_	Excellent movie _The Man from Earth_ (2007), written by Jerome Bixby, who wrote for Star Trek. Also deals with immortality. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/combined	Oct 29 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Man from Earth (2007)		Oct 29 13:51
msb_	Highly recommended!	Oct 29 13:53
cubexyz	back in 1997 Nader was worried that Microsoft would drive Netscape out of the market and maybe even monopolize the internet itself	Oct 29 13:55
cubexyz	the doomsday scenario whereby Microsoft takes over all computing didn't happen	Oct 29 13:56
cubexyz	http://nader.org	Oct 29 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nader.org \| Ralph Nader - consumer advocate, lawyer, and author		Oct 29 13:59
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cubexyz	also this pdf file may be of interest:	Oct 29 14:22
cubexyz	http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/major/mtc-00028313.pdf	Oct 29 14:22
cubexyz	as I said, Nader is savvy...	Oct 29 14:29
cubexyz	he actually does use Linux	Oct 29 14:29
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msb_	The deepest and most accurate political reporting can now be found on Russia Today, e.g., https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/319922-syria-civil-war-regime/ An excerpt: http://pastebin.com/4peaAbHe	Oct 29 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| Syrian turning point? RT — CrossTalk		Oct 29 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebin.com \| RT: Syria Civil War - Pastebin.com		Oct 29 15:02
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MinceR	Fair and Balanced(tm)	Oct 29 15:07
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msb_	Let's hope that the doomsday scenario whereby the US government takes over the Internet by means of systemd and Microsoft, doesn't happen.	Oct 29 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/ODtloetm6e	Oct 29 15:19
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cubexyz	the internet itself isn't in jeopardy	Oct 29 15:40
MinceR	only its usefulness :>	Oct 29 15:40
cubexyz	TCP/IP is an open protocol, and it hasn't really changed much in the last 30 years	Oct 29 15:40
cubexyz	for the internet to be in danger TCP/IP itself would have to be supplanted	Oct 29 15:40
cubexyz	if you start seeing MSTCP/IP then start worrying :)	Oct 29 15:41
cubexyz	I'm more worried about BIOS lock-in	Oct 29 15:42
cubexyz	Microsoft did try to herd people to MSN but it wasn't very successful	Oct 29 15:43
MinceR	open TCP/IP won't help you if the gateways won't forward your messages to the hosts you're targeting	Oct 29 15:47
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/yet-another-happy-microsoftie.txt	Oct 29 16:34
cubexyz	I say again truth is stranger than fiction :)	Oct 29 16:35
MinceR	:)	Oct 29 16:36
MinceR	try to explain to a m$ fanboy how this is bad...	Oct 29 16:37
cubexyz	the only real fans are stockholders I'd say	Oct 29 16:39
MinceR	i'll ask them next time it comes up	Oct 29 16:42
msb_	If systemd were used to kill all the Linux machines that run the Net, that would kill the Net.	Oct 29 16:50
cubexyz	I can say that's very unlikely	Oct 29 16:53
cubexyz	my ISP is strictly FreeBSD based	Oct 29 16:53
msb_	What about the big fiber trunk lines?	Oct 29 16:54
msb_	Also the US controls the domain root servers.	Oct 29 16:55
cubexyz	I know this much.... Rogers Cable uses the Titan Supercomputer, which runs on Cray Linux	Oct 29 16:58
msb_	Scenario: US govt losing world control, wants to reassert (see that pastebin I linked to 2 hours ago) so it blows off an A-bomb inside the US and blames Russia. Cuts off all Internet news sites except US corporate ones, so nobody can say it was a false-flag (like 9/11).	Oct 29 16:58
cubexyz	they run a lot of the cable internet in Canada	Oct 29 16:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/drtocqueville/status/659732049675292672	Oct 29 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@drtocqueville: @schestowitz @Snowden and #ignorant #Americans believe anything the Govt tells them. no wonder we have #obama		Oct 29 17:02
cubexyz	they actually did detonate an atomic bomb in Yucca Flat Nevada	Oct 29 17:02
cubexyz	over 100 times	Oct 29 17:02
MinceR	so, what happened to cray's love affair with m$?	Oct 29 17:04
cubexyz	almost all the supercomputers run Linux nowadays	Oct 29 17:05
cubexyz	some of the Cray systems use Compute Node Linux (CNL)	Oct 29 17:05
cubexyz	maybe even most of them	Oct 29 17:06
cubexyz	old Cray's used UNICOS which was a Unix SysV	Oct 29 17:07
cubexyz	you may be thinking of Cray CX1	Oct 29 17:08
cubexyz	but even the CX1 could RHEL	Oct 29 17:08
cubexyz	as well as Windows HPC server 2008	Oct 29 17:08
cubexyz	could run RHEL	Oct 29 17:09
msb_	Yes, I know about Nevada. But if they did it in a small American city and said the Russians did it, it would be a great excuse to start a war with Russia. Even if the long lines stay up, killing the Linux and windows computers connected to the Net, and sabotaging the root servers would pretty much do it.	Oct 29 17:10
msb_	Or they could blame it on Al-qaeda or ISIL.	Oct 29 17:11
msb_	It would be a big escalation of evil, but so was 911.	Oct 29 17:12
cubexyz	MinceR, I believe there's only one windows computer in the Top 500 supercomputers	Oct 29 17:13
cubexyz	there's 488 Linux, 10 Unix, 1 Mixed, and 1 Windows	Oct 29 17:13
cubexyz	so anyone running Titan is most likely running Linux :)	Oct 29 17:13
cubexyz	msb_, it's hard to imagine the United States nuking itself	Oct 29 17:15
cubexyz	an accident maybe, but on purpose?	Oct 29 17:15
msb_	How about the US blowing up the World Trade Center?	Oct 29 17:15
msb_	On purpose but blaming on an "enemy" to justify a war or police state.	Oct 29 17:16
cubexyz	nukes are a deterrent	Oct 29 17:18
cubexyz	I think they stopped testing them in 1992	Oct 29 17:19
MinceR	afaik they never stopped underground testing	Oct 29 17:19
cubexyz	yes, to avoid fallout	Oct 29 17:20
cubexyz	there's a Limited Test Ban Treaty since 1963	Oct 29 17:22
cubexyz	but in 1996 there was the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty which pledged to discontinue all nuclear weapons testing	Oct 29 17:23
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Test_Ban_Treaty	Oct 29 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Oct 29 17:24
cubexyz	hmmm, 8 states are non-ratified	Oct 29 17:25
cubexyz	pesky North Korea again	Oct 29 17:25
cubexyz	no one wants nukes though	Oct 29 17:28
cubexyz	messes up a lot of things, gives people cancer...	Oct 29 17:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/659785897815207936	Oct 29 17:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thevarguy.com \| Canonical Has Snappy Ubuntu Core Win with Open Networking Vendors \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Oct 29 17:37
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schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6758410	Oct 29 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #natwest is grossly understaffed having replaced human workers with machines; human workers don't dress formal; wear ADVERTS instead now!		Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	humans still want jobs	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	twenty fifteen	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	Indeed, we're told otherwise...	Oct 29 17:40
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abeNd-org	heh, tell that to most people on welfare, they quite enjoy not working & sucking up my hard earned money to buy spinner rims & crack	Oct 29 17:49
abeNd-org	and telling me how I am racist if I suggest they seek employment	Oct 29 17:50
schestowitz	nope	Oct 29 17:55
schestowitz	they cannot find work	Oct 29 17:55
schestowitz	either due to health issues or some other reasons like work record	Oct 29 17:55
schestowitz	don't generalise, some people really want to get employment but can't	Oct 29 17:56
MinceR	i don't see how that's racist	Oct 29 17:56
schestowitz	see, Fox news like to play both cards	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	sometimes at the same time	Oct 29 17:58
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schestowitz	poor and black/Latino at the same time	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	see, according to News Corp. (Murdoch), all of the US problems are due to angry blacks and lazy Latinos	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	not outsourcing to China	Oct 29 17:59
abeNd-org	plenty of poor white folks in my community too	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	In reality, many latinos work the fields that feed the US	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	and blacks tend to do some very hard jobs, including military careers and steel works	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	abeNd-org: yes, it's not a race thing	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	but when some news channels speak to redneck they capitalise on the race card	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	so that Latinos and whites don't unite against the rich class	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	instead do drive-by shootings and distrust	Oct 29 18:00
abeNd-org	see, if any of them gave a rats arse, they would go to the library, fill out employment forms there, educate themselves on a work related subject, take free online classes/training/etc, but no, the ones that do come by only pick up movies (most of the time stealing them & claiming them lost/broken/stolen) or play video games	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	I'm not saying you watch Fox 'News'	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	I have some neighbours who are jobless	Oct 29 18:00
abeNd-org	SOMEHOW they manage to afford a PS4, a 65"+ TV, & a zillion games, and the time to play them	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	and they're nice, hard-working people, at least until they had health issues	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	abeNd-org: your neighbours of the fictional cherry-picked people shown on TV?	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	Here too the media plays this game	Oct 29 18:01
abeNd-org	and there are plenty of physically/mentally able people sitting at home smoking crack and playing video games instead of educating themselves	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	portrays people who are unable to find employment as hishonest, lazy, etc.	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	They barely even get much welfare, just enough for basic bills	Oct 29 18:02
abeNd-org	schestowitz no, I "judge" by what I see going through town	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	maybe in Texas	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	not in here	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	not in general anyway	Oct 29 18:02
abeNd-org	schestowitz was the same in GA, and even worse in MI	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	michigan has employment issues	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	it has a residue from an industrial boom era	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	not the jobs are in china and its vicinity	Oct 29 18:03
abeNd-org	schestowitz yes it does, but plenty of self induced issues as well	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	so the anger should be directed at execs who did this	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	and thus concentrated US wealth (and political influence)... such that around 2% of the US population has the majority of the overall wealth, IIRC	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	Because their workers are in China	Oct 29 18:04
abeNd-org	and now you have the likes of disney/suntrust bank/etc replacing american workers with less expensive H1Bs, even making the fired workers stay on for free for 2 yrs (but I think suntrust finally pulled that after the media controversy over that clause)	Oct 29 18:05
schestowitz	yes, so now you know who the real problems are	Oct 29 18:07
schestowitz	not the H1Bs	Oct 29 18:07
schestowitz	the people who discard the workforce for them	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	Those H1Bs are law-abiding and want to cater for their families	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	US politicians are the very people who, under corporate pressure (or bribes), make programs like H1B	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	!google bill gates techrights H1B	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Bill Gates Targets Visa Rules for Tech Workers : NPR \| http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D88154016	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 ... \| http://www.computerworld.com/article/2490207/technology-law-regulation/u-s--senator-blasts-microsoft-s-h-1b-push-as-it-lays-off-18-000-workers.html	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Bill Gates to Congress: Let us hire more foreigners - CNET \| http://www.cnet.com/news/bill-gates-to-congress-let-us-hire-more-foreigners/	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - 2009 December 15 \| Techrights \| http://techrights.org/2009/12/15/	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	Your enemy isn't the poor	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	or the foreign	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	but the global(ist) ruling elite	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	those who want more for themselves and less (or nothing) for everybody else	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	as long as the latter group doesn't show up with pitchforks in their back yards, whereupon they invite their increasingly-militarised goons (police) in an effort to thwart resistance, sometimes pro-actively (thoughtcrime, NSA)	Oct 29 18:10
schestowitz	BTW, my wife's uncle immigrated to Texas and worked there for over a decade, got amnesty	Oct 29 18:11
schestowitz	Houston IIRC	Oct 29 18:11
schestowitz	There is clearly motivation to race to the bottom, and it's coming not from the wider population but from the few who profit from hard-working and over-stressed people	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> @SenSanders The State, in a democratic, civilized society,	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> should itself not be involved in the murder of	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> other Americans.	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7q8v	Oct 29 18:12
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schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> @SenSanders The time is now for the United States to end	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> capital punishment.	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7q77	Oct 29 18:12
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schestowitz	https://t.co/thJJvQZE8s	Oct 29 18:13
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schestowitz	"big heh"	Oct 29 18:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757569	Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "stop resisting!" mentality from #nsa http://www.thedrum.com/news/2015/10/27/nsa-deputy-director-warns-increasing-cyber-attacks-and-calls-nations-draw-red-lines http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34647541 http://time.com/4088225/cyber-attacks-nsa-richard-ledgett/ http://www.scmagazine.com/nsa-slams-snowden-but-accepts-need-for-high-level-debate-on-privacy/article/449602/		Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedrum.com \| NSA deputy director warns of increasing cyber attacks and calls for nations to draw red lines \| The Drum [ http://ur1.ca/o7qaa ]		Oct 29 18:17
schestowitz	The sins never die.	Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| NSA chief warns of cyber attack danger from nation states - BBC News		Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com \| Danger of Cyberattacks Is Growing, NSA Official Warns		Oct 29 18:17
schestowitz	"The sins never die.https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757644	Oct 29 18:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #nsa scandals (among others: #torture #drones #petraeus #clinton etc.) show that it's not about the crime committed but who it's >for<		Oct 29 18:18
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cubexyz	Microsoft doesn't care about anyone	Oct 29 18:28
cubexyz	if profits slip then out ya go	Oct 29 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical, Red Hat Among Ceph Distributed	Oct 29 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	Storage Advisory Board https://t.co/cgxpMRMN86	Oct 29 18:41
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cubexyz	the OEMs were a bunch of pansies	Oct 29 19:58
cubexyz	even in 1994 I saw some students running Linux	Oct 29 19:58
cubexyz	the OEMs didn't even try any alternative operating systems except BeOS and that was squashed	Oct 29 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	Security Introduction https://t.co/cPbDYakVSF	Oct 29 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets (Open	Oct 29 20:12
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cubexyz	From 2002:	Oct 29 20:41
cubexyz	"Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly already proved her bias when she insisted that all state's documents be provided in Microsoft Word format."	Oct 29 20:42
cubexyz	unbelieveable	Oct 29 20:42
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schestowitz	ah!!	Oct 29 21:56
schestowitz	I didn't know she was /this/ biased	Oct 29 21:56
schestowitz	cubexyz: is that in the PDF?	Oct 29 21:56
schestowitz	[17:04] <MinceR> so, what happened to cray's love affair with m$?	Oct 29 21:57
schestowitz	Not heard of that in a long time, maybe it was mostly a press release and catalogue	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	to help Microsoft sell the illusion that MS is not totally dead in HPC	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	It still did some campaigning about that around 2010	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	not later, so I assume they gave up formally, more or less...	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	Lots of media noise about it when I did my PhD around 2005	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	to the point where some utter f* idiot in our department decided to become MS' experience	Oct 29 21:59
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schestowitz	to dump the Linux HPC, its admin resigned in protest	Oct 29 21:59
schestowitz	I also voiced my opposition, but I was too "low level" compared to the Profs	Oct 29 21:59
schestowitz	So I ranted in my blog at the time	Oct 29 21:59
schestowitz	I can find it in my blog it I _really_ try	Oct 29 22:00
schestowitz	[14:29] <cubexyz> he actually does use Linux	Oct 29 22:00
schestowitz	Still? Evidence of it?	Oct 29 22:00
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Viper550	microsoft getting way too aggressive in forcing its spyware-encrusted Vista 10 on everyone by any means nessecary	Oct 29 22:24
cubexyz	schestowitz, I'll contact him...	Oct 29 22:30
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Viper550	http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/29/9639414/microsoft-windows-10-automatic-update-recommended	Oct 29 22:31
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cubexyz	I'll report any reply here	Oct 29 22:33
Viper550	oh, and a silly small claims court in my country claimed that asking someone to send them a copy of something from a paywalled publication is actually a circumvention of DRM!	Oct 29 22:36
cubexyz	was this case in Canada?	Oct 29 22:40
Viper550	yep	Oct 29 22:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/RSpRcsIWDG	Oct 29 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Python and Java https://t.co/U4LgfSGhY9	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XWLs57tu6j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7rs4	Oct 29 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat is boring -- and more open source	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	companies should emulate it	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Tz2J7ukD8t (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7s4k	Oct 30 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat is boring -- and more open source companies should emulate it \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	K1 https://t.co/crLHltarQs	Oct 30 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 00:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra K1 \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 00:21
MinceR	no, nobody should emulate redcrap	Oct 30 00:23
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MinceR	they've done more harm to gnu/linux than m$ ever could	Oct 30 00:23
MinceR	or crApple	Oct 30 00:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/eThQa98Kwa	Oct 30 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7sg7	Oct 30 01:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @alexleitor followed @tuxmachines		Oct 30 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Skimming Files Before You Grep Them	Oct 30 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QG812j4P5N (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7sg8	Oct 30 01:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Race to Develop an Open-Source Voting	Oct 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	System Is On https://t.co/xIFsKjIFXA	Oct 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tch	Oct 30 06:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu	Oct 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC	Oct 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mNR2q9Vjax (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tci	Oct 30 06:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the	Oct 30 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Freedom of Android https://t.co/a99RICLp4t	Oct 30 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Oct 30 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Android	Oct 30 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MPHR2aIlWz (www.theverge.com)	Oct 30 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tiq	Oct 30 08:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bosson/status/660006405236199424	Oct 30 08:16
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schestowitz	yes, they have said for nearly 4 years that they would try to fuse them together...	Oct 30 08:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/bosson/status/660007517834059776	Oct 30 08:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BlackBerry touts its Android Priv phone in new	Oct 30 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	video spots https://t.co/pSpM04I6t1	Oct 30 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cnet.com)	Oct 30 08:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nexus 6P teardown proves Android users will	Oct 30 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	feel the iPain https://t.co/xHKUwpEU9P	Oct 30 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	(thenextweb.com)	Oct 30 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tli	Oct 30 08:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based Samsung Z3 smartphone launches in	Oct 30 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	India https://t.co/V9qNb8FB1M (www.itworld.com)	Oct 30 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tlj	Oct 30 08:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $70 worth of paid Android apps are on sale for	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	free right now on Amazon	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TKJB7o7Qmw (bgr.com)	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmf	Oct 30 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FFmpeg and Kodi arrived to jessie-backports!	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BL9WUhzEcd (balintreczey.hu)	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmg	Oct 30 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma: Workaround for maximized windows	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	that expand under panel	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7kTJAfaP1S	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	(dingyichen.wordpress.com)	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmi	Oct 30 08:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NF4j99XiH2 (lifehacker.com)	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp2	Oct 30 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto X Force: A shatterproof Android phone for	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	outside the U.S. https://t.co/5mK136LZXj	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Oct 30 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/irGpB9PnK1	Oct 30 09:08
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schestowitz	x http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/28/bill-gates-birthday-predicted-future	Oct 30 09:21
*schestowitz barfs		Oct 30 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the	Oct 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Freedom of Android https://t.co/a99RICLp4t	Oct 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Oct 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tr9	Oct 30 09:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	on i.MX6UL https://t.co/Uf2nFzsbdg	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1	Oct 30 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on	Oct 30 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems	Oct 30 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/I72goa1NvY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/lFHIAbTOus	Oct 30 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A road trip into the Free Software Foundation's	Oct 30 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	early days https://t.co/RWzsQQJYQF	Oct 30 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on GParted...'		Oct 30 09:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/lFHIAbTOus'		Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “Other than Android won these wars, iOS is a	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	healthy niche market … Windows Phone continues	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	to remain dead” https://t.co/KvME5Hy5jy	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(communities-dominate.blogs.com)	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tz4	Oct 30 10:24
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msb_	_The Shadow_ 1994 Alec Baldwin, Penelope Ann Miller, Peter Boyle -- wonderful! The Shadow knows! Bwa-ha-ha http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111143/combined	Oct 30 10:38
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cubexyz	maybe Gates can explain why CD owners can't backup their CDs on windows	Oct 30 11:00
cubexyz	a long time ago, about 1998 I started to hear about 'convergence'	Oct 30 11:01
cubexyz	TVs and computers were supposed to merge	Oct 30 11:02
cubexyz	now I knew that wouldn't happen in general simply because for work PCs you're not supposed to be watching television!	Oct 30 11:02
cubexyz	although I didn't predict the Linux TV, in hindsight it seems logical	Oct 30 11:03
cubexyz	in 1994 did I think I'd be living in a linux dominated house? no way	Oct 30 11:03
cubexyz	the death of Commodore and the Amiga, the failure of Minix, the extinction of Xenix, and the rise of Linux happened	Oct 30 11:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: A lot of people stopped watching TV.	Oct 30 11:05
XRevan86	Because TV is not the best source of information and entertainment anymore.	Oct 30 11:05
cubexyz	that is true	Oct 30 11:05
cubexyz	I'll add in fact that Microsoft squeezed out BeOS to the list	Oct 30 11:07
cubexyz	s/in/the/	Oct 30 11:07
XRevan86	So TV won't merge into PC because PC doesn't need that TV thing at all.	Oct 30 11:08
cubexyz	my TV is basically a Linux computer, I've taken it apart	Oct 30 11:09
cubexyz	the internals are very similar to a laptop	Oct 30 11:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: What do you watch on it?	Oct 30 11:09
cubexyz	news, sports, nature shows	Oct 30 11:09
cubexyz	the screen is an output device, I can plug a real computer into it and use ffplay and mplayer to watch stuff I've downloaded	Oct 30 11:10
XRevan86	Okay, wrong question. cubexyz: Do you watch "traditional" TV broadcast or do you use Internet?	Oct 30 11:10
cubexyz	I use the internet more than broadcast/satellite TV	Oct 30 11:11
cubexyz	both really, but more on internet	Oct 30 11:11
XRevan86	By the way, TV (broadcast) is widely called "zombiebox" in Russian Internet :).	Oct 30 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto https://t.co/NF4j99XiH2 (lifehacker.com)	Oct 30 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Stefan Sperling	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QmkEvKblQC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7u4j	Oct 30 11:13
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XRevan86	https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/зомбоящик	Oct 30 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wiktionary.org \| зомбоящик — Викисловарь		Oct 30 11:13
cubexyz	yes, it's stupefying	Oct 30 11:13
cubexyz	endless car commercials	Oct 30 11:13
cubexyz	but windows 10 has managed to crap up the computer as well	Oct 30 11:17
cubexyz	I think I mentioned the start button gives you burger ads :)	Oct 30 11:18
XRevan86	"Windows 10: the burger for your PC"	Oct 30 11:18
cubexyz	the lock screen may be next	Oct 30 11:18
cubexyz	what is the future.... coca-cola calendar, McDonals email client, Wal-mart web browser?	Oct 30 11:20
cubexyz	it could be very bad	Oct 30 11:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: Microsoft Coca-Cola, Microsoft McDonalds, Microsoft Wal-mart	Oct 30 11:20
XRevan86	Would be very progressive.	Oct 30 11:21
cubexyz	sounds like a future dystopia	Oct 30 11:21
cubexyz	the last 20 years or so have been like brainwashing	Oct 30 11:23
cubexyz	https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/store/music/album/xavier/brainwashing/8d6kgx7gx288	Oct 30 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microsoft.com \| Brainwashing - Microsoft Store		Oct 30 11:26
cubexyz	actually forget future dystopia, it's dystopia now :-/	Oct 30 11:28
XRevan86	3 hundred years of Enlightenment	Oct 30 11:30
XRevan86	it is time to go back to medieval darkness	Oct 30 11:30
cubexyz	http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from	Oct 30 11:30
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cubexyz	MinceR, can you believe this crap?	Oct 30 11:31
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schestowitz	> Hey there. You free about 1400 to chat?	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	Yes, of course. I am about to publish today's 4th article about the EPO, and I still have some new information in my inbox (haven't had time to review that material yet). The EPO is having a very tough week, so I expect reckless finger-pointing from them.	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	Patent lawyers in Europe have told me that I "must" fight the EPO over this. They too are curious about the outcome.	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Oct 30 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO - Techrights		Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	cubexyz: isn't that old news?	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	What's the data on it?	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	I remember something like "mommy, where did this home server come from?"	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	around 2010	Oct 30 12:38
cubexyz	right	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	is this old?	Oct 30 12:38
cubexyz	I only saw it today :)	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	ok, if they still do it, then we need to rebut	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	I think they stopped	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	maybe they canned the PR con behind it	Oct 30 12:39
cubexyz	that article was from 2008	Oct 30 12:39
cubexyz	so you are right, it's 'old' in computer terms	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/660072274125594624	Oct 30 12:41
cubexyz	I still think about 1995 sometimes	Oct 30 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Thank you very much for posting this article! People are suffering for years at EPO hopefully they wake up before it's too late		Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	cubexyz: thanks for nostagism [suc]	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	You're bring back a lot of stuff people tend to forget about	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	though they're still very relevant	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	not many discuss boot freedom in the media anymore	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	MS won the 'war'	Oct 30 12:42
schestowitz	and now UEFI is widespread	Oct 30 12:42
cubexyz	UEFI can be replaced given sufficient knowledge	Oct 30 12:42
cubexyz	the other alternative is to use older pre-UEFI computers	Oct 30 12:43
schestowitz	> Hold off publishing your next article until after we chat. Will call between 1400 and 1430.	Oct 30 12:43
schestowitz	OK, no problem...	Oct 30 12:43
cubexyz	I realize this is unpopular, but it's popular in part due to microsoft's forced upgrades	Oct 30 12:43
cubexyz	s/popular/unpopular/	Oct 30 12:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/profBury/status/660074549485158400	Oct 30 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@profBury: #EUisus https://t.co/W3JTo2iHzy		Oct 30 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mass surveillance: EU citizens' rights still in danger, says Parliament https://t.co/Mhy6cfPr8w #espionage against all of us		Oct 30 12:44
cubexyz	schestowitz, it seems it was ad-tastic book by microsoft to promote WHS (Windows Home Server)	Oct 30 12:47
cubexyz	put it in the pile with Microsoft Bob and Encarta :)	Oct 30 12:48
schestowitz	cubexyz:	Oct 30 12:49
schestowitz	> There was a federal election in Canada last week. My morale improved	Oct 30 12:49
schestowitz	> very slightly, that Harper scumbag is out.	Oct 30 12:49
cubexyz	yes, Justin Trudeau and the liberals won a majority	Oct 30 12:49
cubexyz	I was very surpised	Oct 30 12:49
cubexyz	in opposition to Microsoft's brainwashing we have grass-roots blogs and the FSF	Oct 30 12:50
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/restricted-boots.jpg	Oct 30 12:53
cubexyz	https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/	Oct 30 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org \| Current campaigns — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Oct 30 12:55
cubexyz	The FSF has identified all the major problems	Oct 30 12:56
msb_	The FSF has _not_ identified systemd as a problem!	Oct 30 12:58
cubexyz	ok, fair point	Oct 30 12:58
msb_	As to TV, RT is well worth watching. Very accurate news and analysis.	Oct 30 12:58
msb_	Facts like these will never be mentioned on corporate TV: http://pastebin.com/4peaAbHe	Oct 30 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebin.com \| RT: Syria Civil War - Pastebin.com		Oct 30 13:04
msb_	Or corporate newspapers.	Oct 30 13:05
cubexyz	and I'm afraid to say that the FSF's advice is too vague	Oct 30 13:16
cubexyz	simply saying "use coreboot" involves a lot of work for the user	Oct 30 13:16
cubexyz	I spent a lot of time looking at coreboot and there are a lot of things coreboot doesn't do that AMI bios does do	Oct 30 13:18
msb_	And, until coreboot expands its coverage substantially, restricts users to a tiny subset of computers/mobos.	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	to put it simply, AMI BIOS does a better job of handling quirky cases	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	warm booting is handled better	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	well, best solution now is to go chromebook or chromebox	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	unless you want to become a BIOS guru	Oct 30 13:20
msb_	AMI are the professionals in the field of BIOS. Which doesn't guarantee that there isn't something nasty hidden in their code.	Oct 30 13:20
msb_	chromebook/box are good only if you want to settle for a slow computer.	Oct 30 13:21
cubexyz	that's not true, it's a function of $$$	Oct 30 13:22
cubexyz	I already stated there's i5 and i7 chromebooks	Oct 30 13:22
msb_	If possible, blocking control packets that operate the internal intrusion mechanisms, using a $50 homemade router, would be better.	Oct 30 13:23
msb_	How fast and how expensive are the 8-core chromebooks? (And I would never use an Intel CRT. I think it's more vulnerable than an AMD.)	Oct 30 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint History and Development	Oct 30 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source intelligence techniques and the	Oct 30 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	Dark Web https://t.co/za6yFwkUKZ	Oct 30 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 6 Vs. iOS 9: The Showdown	Oct 30 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S1BD5vaNz2	Oct 30 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	(fieldguide.gizmodo.com)	Oct 30 13:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fieldguide.gizmodo.com \| Android 6 Vs. iOS 9: The Showdown		Oct 30 13:32
cubexyz	chromebook pixel is top of the line ultra low voltage i5 or i7 cpu	Oct 30 13:34
cubexyz	i7-5500u cpu	Oct 30 13:34
cubexyz	2 cores, 4 threads says ask.intel.com	Oct 30 13:35
cubexyz	TDP is an amazing 15 W	Oct 30 13:35
cubexyz	goes for about $1500 US	Oct 30 13:36
cubexyz	chromebook has another advantage, it doesn't get too hot	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Kiran	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	Padwal https://t.co/sW13lAHT0B (www.linux.com)	Oct 30 13:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Kiran Padwal \| Linux.com		Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/txJnjCZtOf (www.linuxinsider.com)	Oct 30 13:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's \| Business \| LinuxInsider		Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	K1 https://t.co/JWzzEaiG40 (linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 13:37
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cubexyz	at least the one I have doesn't, you can watch videos and put the chromebook in your lap	Oct 30 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra K1 · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 30 13:37
msb_	i7-5500u cpu has a cpumark score of 3972. AMD FX-8350 scores 8973.	Oct 30 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/MPHR2aIlWz	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 30 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Google is merging Chrome OS and Android \| The Verge		Oct 30 13:45
cubexyz	125 watts TDP	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5X7nlXA2Vh (betanews.com)	Oct 30 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC \| BetaNews		Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	on i.MX6UL https://t.co/jlIdTTLuFD	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 13:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on i.MX6UL · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 30 13:45
cubexyz	show me a laptop that uses AMD FX-8350... I don't think there is one	Oct 30 13:45
cubexyz	it's an unfair comparison	Oct 30 13:46
msb_	But it's easy to build a desktop with it.	Oct 30 13:46
cubexyz	15 TDP watt vs 125 TDP watt	Oct 30 13:47
msb_	So what?	Oct 30 13:47
cubexyz	AND you have no BIOS source code	Oct 30 13:47
cubexyz	that's what	Oct 30 13:47
msb_	You don't want to spend 2 cents/hour	Oct 30 13:47
msb_	?	Oct 30 13:47
cubexyz	there's no laptop with FX-8350 since it would overheat for sure	Oct 30 13:48
msb_	It's an Intel cpu. It's already cracked.	Oct 30 13:48
msb_	I guess if you want it portable, you can settle for half speed. What does it cost?	Oct 30 13:49
cubexyz	it's expensive, about $1500	Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1	Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XgrrrNxMPK (solus-project.com)	Oct 30 13:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solus-project.com \| Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1 \| Solus Project		Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on	Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems	Oct 30 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint History and Development	Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bTHk5Vay30 (www.unixmen.com)	Oct 30 13:50
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msb_	Slow and expensive. Not what I'd want for my main computer. Also I want a lot of disk bays.	Oct 30 13:52
msb_	I don't travel much. All I'd want for a portable is a tablet for shopping lists.	Oct 30 13:53
msb_	<$100	Oct 30 13:53
msb_	Pen and paper work too.	Oct 30 13:53
cubexyz	I wouldn't buy the pixel either	Oct 30 13:55
cubexyz	just pointing out alternatives with coreboot	Oct 30 13:55
cubexyz	ha, the pirates are selling subscriptions to access bios source code	Oct 30 13:57
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cubexyz	ok, if you can find the file hpbios.rar you might be able to get more bios source code	Oct 30 14:08
cubexyz	clever, the chinese have a huge source code repository	Oct 30 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November	Oct 30 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November	Oct 30 14:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November 18 \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RapidDisk / RapidCache 3.5 now available.	Oct 30 14:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| RapidDisk / RapidCache 3.5 now available. \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 14:29
schestowitz	"while cyanide may be silent, it is also an indiscriminate killer,	Oct 30 14:37
schestowitz	affecting other wildlife and contaminating the ecosystem. The	Oct 30 14:37
schestowitz	contamination increases with rain."	Oct 30 14:37
schestowitz	http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/27/africa/zimbabwe-elephant-poaching/	Oct 30 14:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/660104005260075008	Oct 30 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PrisonPC: How Linux plays a useful role behind	Oct 30 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	bars https://t.co/Xo0cSSIdTk (www.itwire.com)	Oct 30 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	Con Zymaris is back	Oct 30 15:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itwire.com \| iTWire - PrisonPC: How Linux plays a useful role behind bars		Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Has a Diverse Software Focused Patent	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	Portfolio https://t.co/My62H8bCJV	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	(patentvue.com) so it can attack, extort,	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	blackmail android and linux	Oct 30 15:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Chromebooks have been burning up the sales	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	charts on Amazon for a while now"	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uKvX7IDsUN (www.itworld.com)	Oct 30 15:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity	Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	platform, says report https://t.co/SsErT8nn5l	Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitimes.com)	Oct 30 15:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitimes.com \| Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity platform, says report		Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth & Rising	Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	Tide for Linux Review https://t.co/DVs4RJrLhi	Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.softpedia.com)	Oct 30 15:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softpedia.com \| Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth & Rising Tide for Linux Review - Softpedia		Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where you can get a Linux laptop for super	Oct 30 15:17
TweetTuxMachines	cheap this Saturday https://t.co/hsF0w0H0oo	Oct 30 15:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @Tech_Sharer retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Where you can get a Linux laptop for...'		Oct 30 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Winners Announced! Linux Pros Show Off	Oct 30 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Knowledge in #WorldWithoutLinux Contest But One	Oct 30 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Clue Stumps Them All https://t.co/4EmTB8vfRx	Oct 30 15:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create Ubuntu Phone Apps, Develop Ubuntu	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	Core-Based Projects and Win Prizes	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yX7ivOs8q4 (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 30 15:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Create Ubuntu Phone Apps, Develop Ubuntu Core-Based Projects and Win Prizes - Softpedia		Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make in India: Canonical looking at	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	manufacturing Ubuntu smartphones in India	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WrBfz6w7qo (www.bgr.in)	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fanless 3.5-inch SBC runs Linux on dual-core	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	Bay Trail https://t.co/kMR0vmxEX6	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux Laptops https://t.co/5ZwYKivz7k	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	platform, says report https://t.co/KfUXI7EEe6	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where you can get a Linux laptop for super	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	cheap this Saturday https://t.co/HXSsibUu80	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Competition and Kernel	Oct 30 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/BjoiKivHKq	Oct 30 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre 2.42 eBook Reader and Converter Adds	Oct 30 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for the New NookGlowlight Plus	Oct 30 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware-current got updated… 448 lines of	Oct 30 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	Plasma 5.5 Looks for Wallpapers	Oct 30 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.54 Announcement	Oct 30 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDBUS Is Being Removed From Fedora, Could Be A	Oct 30 17:22
TweetTuxMachines	While Before Being Mainlined	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/abekB6HS4Z	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/0K6UqQRjUw	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/F3EI6Qqe3z	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/ZYCQ9n6tat	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why systemd is a practical tool for sys admins	Oct 30 17:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7uEfQSiGBM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.19.1 released https://t.co/cZt22dhNNe	Oct 30 17:22
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schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36007/	Oct 30 17:44
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schestowitz	"	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	I have to admit, I'm a little confused. On one hand, Microsoft open-sources some components of the .NET framework, and on the other hand they closed-source a vital tool for some Android developers. I'm still convinced that Microsoft doesn't care about FOSS or GNU/Linux, or their communities. They're simply trying to nip a market trend in the bud... they're competing in a manner that appears collaborative at first glance.	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	I think it's time we took a moment to re-evaluate how we look at corporate entities that offer open-source software, and if they are susceptible to buyouts, whether their projects are viable for the community to invest precious time and effort into. RoboVM would never have been such a huge loss if it had forked from the very beginning and managed by a non-corporate entity. We've already decided not to trust MySQL any more because of what	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	Oracle has done to it. Why should we not apply this same decision to several other company-offered projects?	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	"	Oct 30 17:44
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6761342	Oct 30 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Indonesia is burning. So why is the world looking away? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/30/indonesia-fires-disaster-21st-century-world-mediav article by Monbiot		Oct 30 17:58
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schestowitz	"Business as usual? Indonesia too far? Nobody cares for environment?"	Oct 30 17:58
cubexyz	if you're worried about MySQL is not MariaDB an acceptable replacement?	Oct 30 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release	Oct 30 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/UOFTv3IBr9	Oct 30 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines More Leftovers: Software	Oct 30 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/Q5U70fcSBN	Oct 30 20:13
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt	Oct 30 21:01
cubexyz	see what you're missing? :)	Oct 30 21:01
schestowitz	>They never wanted to provide the world with free software, they wanted the world to provide them with free development.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	I rather think the contrary : you can't pay your rent with an open source business model. I know, Red Hat is an exception. But just look at Canonical, it's still not profitable, though it's the most popular Linux distro. Now think about tiny companies, they don't have a least chance to survive if they go open and free. Your good faith WILL be abused if you have anything valuable.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36007/	Oct 30 21:04
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schestowitz	"	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	That's beside the point though, it appears RoboVM was always a commercial vendor.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	Creating something of value and watching people use it, even make money from it, is part and parcel of free software.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	"	Oct 30 21:04
cubexyz	what about OpenBSD?	Oct 30 21:05
cubexyz	20 years and still going	Oct 30 21:05
cubexyz	ok, 19 years	Oct 30 21:05
schestowitz	19	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	or 20?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	I think 20	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	just weeks ago, maybe 1.5 weeks ago	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	18th?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	of oct?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	(from memory)	Oct 30 21:08
cubexyz	19 years as of Oct 18th 2015, yes	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	[17:59] <cubexyz> if you're worried about MySQL is not MariaDB an acceptable replacement?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	Never worked for a client with mariadb installed	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	they use vanilla mysql	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	but maybe oracle will go more rogue	Oct 30 21:09
cubexyz	sorry, correction...	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	or maybe - just maybe - mariadb's existence prevents mysql from going rogue under oracle	Oct 30 21:09
cubexyz	Oct 1st, 1996 was the original release	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	there ought to be another date	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	maybe older version	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	pre 1.0	Oct 30 21:09
cubexyz	Oct 18th, 2015 was the release date for 5.8	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	yes, but that was also an anniversary	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	20 years of... something	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	linux too has mutiple important dates	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	like 1.0 release, linux mailing list message	Oct 30 21:10
cubexyz	the source tree is 20 years old :)	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	then there's owen leblanc, my former colleague, who was the first to combine gnu and linux	Oct 30 21:10
cubexyz	I can't remember the beginning	Oct 30 21:10
cubexyz	20 years of cvs	Oct 30 21:11
cubexyz	ok, now I'm wondering what GNU started on :)	Oct 30 21:12
cubexyz	since it predates linux	Oct 30 21:12
schestowitz	1983 i think	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	but I think it started with gnu	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	but beforehand emacs	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	which became gnu	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	and later there was the gpl	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	probably came after the gnu/free software manifesto, with help from lawyers	Oct 30 21:13
cubexyz	if you get a chance ask Stallman what he wrote GNU on in the early days	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	I did an interview with RMS about it	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	he told me	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	wait, I'll get the video	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	stallman interview techrights http://techrights.org/2014/12/30/stallman-interviews-summary/	Oct 30 21:14
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schestowitz	first two under "2014, Lincoln"	Oct 30 21:15
schestowitz	Those are the relevant ones	Oct 30 21:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/rossahall/status/660202004590010369	Oct 30 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rossahall: @fth_nix @schestowitz Yeah, but if you can't read the words through the envelope you hit the kettle and steam the bugger open		Oct 30 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chrome OS is not dead, insists Google veep in	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	charge of Chrome OS https://t.co/mDFHS4AJ62	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	"Easily The Worst" They've Spun	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0vrEE7lUGS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snapcraft Snappy Creator Tool for Ubuntu Snappy	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	Core Gets Closer to ROS https://t.co/zhXWNpcfAN	Oct 30 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously	Oct 30 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream!	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9dPj4t1cGn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@jfoxdev @tuxmachines Speak not of #2 for it only gives	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	it power!	Oct 30 21:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/metacode/status/660209372275023872	Oct 30 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: No Such Thing As A Free Gift: The Gates Foundation & The Price Of Philanthropy https://t.co/JvGrSoEm8Y EPUB by Lin. McGoey (cc @schestowitz)		Oct 30 22:17
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XFaCE	MinceR: schestowitz from edX:	Oct 30 22:37
XFaCE	"Bill and Melinda Gates have helped transform global health in the developing world, but they know that achieving success requires working through unique challenges. Get prepped to do your part, with Boston University's primer on global health."	Oct 30 22:37
MinceR	yecch	Oct 30 22:40
MinceR	they're transforming it all right	Oct 30 22:40
MinceR	into ruins	Oct 30 22:40
schestowitz	XFaCE: they pay edC	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	edX	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	partners of theirs, check history	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	fawning for $	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	Anyway, unless there's some serious scandal or new misconduct regarding B&M F* I don't want to spend much time on it, it has become a bit repetitive and not a top priority at the moment (EPO and software patents are)	Oct 30 23:00
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XFaCE	schestowitz: the EPO coverage is amazing	Oct 30 23:24
schestowitz	http://i.imgur.com/rX7JHKR.gifv	Oct 31 00:07
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schestowitz	XFaCE: thanks, takes much effort	Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	and health toll, they bully me	Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	See tagging at top to help organise for journalists to follow and catch up: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Oct 31 00:07
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schestowitz	I made it a table to make scrolling less needed and cluster together similar themes, too	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	work in progress	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	2 more articles on their way tomorrow	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	XFaCE: and congrats on voting out Bush... I mean, Harper	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	reply from me (at work):	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	nmap installed on a server controlled by its right owner is like a kitchen knife in a chef's kitchen. If someone was to break into the server, he or she could install nmap anyway (with wget or apt-get or whatever), so the very existence of it on the server is probably not an issue. It contacts the outside world, but AFAIK it does not invite access from the outside world, not even with buffer overflows (unless the server makes it remotely	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	executable).	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	Maybe some detection tools don't like nmap because the media characterises it as a "hacking" (they mean cracking) tool, hence its very existence of it on a server may be indicative of present or past intrusion/s. In some countries the "possession" of such a "cyber weapon" (in US they try to classify it "munition", but EFF said they failed about 2 days ago) is an offence, and this was nearly the case in the UK and Germany around 2006.	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	Probably safe to remove it from a cache server. It's unlikely anything on such a server would need to port-scan.	Oct 31 00:42
XFaCE	[20:07:21]<schestowitz> just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 01:10
XFaCE	where do you get those meme photos?	Oct 31 01:11
XFaCE	the epo head in a tank :P	Oct 31 01:11
XFaCE	apt	Oct 31 01:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@jfoxdev @tuxmachines And #5 is more reassuring than	Oct 31 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	scary to a control freak	Oct 31 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PulseAudio 7.1 is out https://t.co/d2r1vbWFwv	Oct 31 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	(arunraghavan.net)	Oct 31 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cockpit 0.82 Released	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lPgLntgtNk (stef.thewalter.net)	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/660271222358482944	Oct 31 02:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines C.H.I.P. flashing on Fedora	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RSaWj00jFY (www.hadess.net)	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7wyk	Oct 31 02:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "ChromeOS is a stripped-down Gentoo-derived	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux operating system built using Chromium	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	OS" https://t.co/EW5IiLUasd	Oct 31 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Oct 31 02:52
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MinceR	http://dilbert.com/strip/2004-03-28	Oct 31 04:07
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MinceR	Chrome OS is not dead, it's pining for the fjords!	Oct 31 04:07
msb_	cubexyz: Hi! Are you there?	Oct 31 06:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sabayon 15.11 https://t.co/XG0kJHuHL1	Oct 31 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7xfx	Oct 31 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is	Oct 31 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	"Easily The Worst" They've Spun	Oct 31 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/flQ3i9ED8v (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 08:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is "Easily The Worst" They've Spun - Phoronix		Oct 31 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon,	Oct 31 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	Cinnamon 2.8.2 Available for Download	Oct 31 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines	Satellite Entities Like Cyanogen, Patent	Oct 31 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release	Oct 31 10:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android device updates: Google posts	Oct 31 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	Marshmallow factory images for Nexus 6P and 5X	Oct 31 11:30
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cubexyz	chromebooks/boxes have multiple advantages	Oct 31 12:13
cubexyz	#1: Microsoft gets no money from a chromebook sale	Oct 31 12:14
*Pinguinpat (~chatzilla@2a02:1812:2c35:1900:30:d122:8513:1376) has joined #techrights		Oct 31 12:14
cubexyz	#2: You can download the BIOS source code	Oct 31 12:14
cubexyz	#3: some of the chromebooks run are extremely energy efficient	Oct 31 12:14
cubexyz	s/run//	Oct 31 12:15
cubexyz	come on brain :-/	Oct 31 12:15
cubexyz	coreboot will help you for no money	Oct 31 12:16
cubexyz	AMI will not acknowledge you exist without a lot of $$$	Oct 31 12:17
Pinguinpat	Something on the word "sloeber" in this context it actuality means a opportunist who gets away with things. But make no mistake: a few seconds later the right person calls Battistelli a horrible manipulative bastard with blood on his hand being responsible for the suicide of 5 employees.	Oct 31 12:28
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msb_	cubexyz: Would you please explain the relationship between framebuffer and X? This doc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt says "the X server works completely on /dev/fb*" but when I run fbset it says the resolution is "800x600-75" but xrandr says it's 1920 x 1080, which is the native resolution of my monitor. Does X run on top of FB, or do things work a different way?	Oct 31 13:08
msb_	I apologize for my ignorance of something so fundamental. I'm so ashamed!	Oct 31 13:10
cubexyz	think of the framerbuffer as a memory mapped device	Oct 31 13:10
cubexyz	ok, sometimes X has control, sometimes the framebuffer is in control	Oct 31 13:12
cubexyz	in any case, there is a graphics mode set	Oct 31 13:12
cubexyz	in Linux you can load a LKM to control the framebuffer	Oct 31 13:13
cubexyz	if not, then the kernel controls a simple text console	Oct 31 13:14
msb_	which you get from e.g. ctrl-alt-F3, right?	Oct 31 13:14
cubexyz	so when you do ctrl-alt-f1 you pass control to the text console or somethingfb	Oct 31 13:15
cubexyz	somethingfb can be a lot of different things	Oct 31 13:15
cubexyz	in the olden days there was vga16fb	Oct 31 13:15
msb_	ok but the doc seems to say the FB is running underneath X, and X is utilizing the FB	Oct 31 13:15
cubexyz	no, you can run a framebuffer without using X	Oct 31 13:17
cubexyz	let's say you wanted to look at some jpegs, but X wasn't available	Oct 31 13:17
msb_	I understand that, but when X is running, is it doing its work via the FB?	Oct 31 13:17
cubexyz	you could still load vga16fb or radeonfb or somethingfb and look at jpegs	Oct 31 13:17
cubexyz	nope :)	Oct 31 13:18
cubexyz	you can also run X and the simple kernel text console, without any graphics capability	Oct 31 13:18
msb_	So this quote is wrong? "the X server works completely on /dev/fb*"	Oct 31 13:18
cubexyz	run lsof and see if /dev/fb* is open	Oct 31 13:19
cubexyz	I'm sure it isn't	Oct 31 13:19
cubexyz	maybe that was true a long time ago, I'm not sure	Oct 31 13:19
cubexyz	try: lsof \| grep dev	Oct 31 13:20
cubexyz	or lsof \| grep /dev/fb	Oct 31 13:20
cubexyz	it won't match anything	Oct 31 13:21
msb_	lsof \| grep -i dev/fb doesn't match anything.	Oct 31 13:21
cubexyz	some of the linux documentation could be really out of date	Oct 31 13:21
cubexyz	right, that's as expected	Oct 31 13:22
cubexyz	you can run a framebuffer without X, and you can run X without a framebuffer	Oct 31 13:22
msb_	So now X accesses the graphic card or chip directly?	Oct 31 13:22
cubexyz	no	Oct 31 13:23
msb_	not thru the FB?	Oct 31 13:23
cubexyz	not directly... it uses radeon.ko or some device driver	Oct 31 13:23
cubexyz	depending on your hardware of course	Oct 31 13:23
cubexyz	if you do a lsmod you could be able to see if you have a framebuffer module loaded	Oct 31 13:25
msb_	nothing with fb or fram	Oct 31 13:26
cubexyz	if so you could do stuff like: fbset 800x600-80 to set the text console video mode	Oct 31 13:26
cubexyz	ok, then you are using the kernel text console	Oct 31 13:26
msb_	so when using the text console, X is suspended, and vice versa.	Oct 31 13:26
cubexyz	X loses control of the video stuff at that point, it's still running of course	Oct 31 13:27
msb_	that's why the fb resolution is different from the X resolution	Oct 31 13:27
cubexyz	right :)	Oct 31 13:27
cubexyz	strictly speaking the text console isn't really text mode	Oct 31 13:28
msb_	Great! Thanks!	Oct 31 13:28
cubexyz	it's usually set to 640x480 and 80x25 characters	Oct 31 13:28
msb_	mine is 800x600	Oct 31 13:28
cubexyz	you can even watch movies on the framebuffer	Oct 31 13:29
cubexyz	it's slower though	Oct 31 13:29
cubexyz	fbset 640x480-80 would be 640x480 resolution with 80 hz refresh rate	Oct 31 13:29
msb_	so using fb I could port over all my old graphics programs from pcdos, because it would be just like writing to the memory-mapped graphic card I used to have	Oct 31 13:32
msb_	If I set the rez and mode right.	Oct 31 13:33
cubexyz	most kernels use the generic VESA framebuffer driver	Oct 31 13:34
cubexyz	so you would be limited to VESA modes	Oct 31 13:34
cubexyz	I would probably just use freedos or rewrite your programs for X11	Oct 31 13:35
cubexyz	merely a suggestion	Oct 31 13:35
cubexyz	of course there's dosbox and xdosemu and you could just run stuff that way	Oct 31 13:36
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cubexyz	I have a quick-c setup for writing dos programs still and it runs fine under dosbox	Oct 31 13:37
cubexyz	but with freedos your programs would run at super speed :)	Oct 31 13:38
msb_	can't I load a kernel module to enable fb to work at 1920x1080, the rez of my screen?	Oct 31 13:38
cubexyz	yes, you should be able to do that	Oct 31 13:39
msb_	what would it be called?	Oct 31 13:39
cubexyz	look at man fbset	Oct 31 13:40
cubexyz	you would need to load some LKM as well	Oct 31 13:40
cubexyz	the fbset docs might be really out of date	Oct 31 13:41
cubexyz	ls	Oct 31 13:42
msb_	LKM = loadable kernel module ?	Oct 31 13:42
cubexyz	yes	Oct 31 13:42
cubexyz	try locate vga16fb and then cd to that directory	Oct 31 13:43
cubexyz	/lib/modules/some-version-of-kernel/kernel/drivers/video	Oct 31 13:43
cubexyz	you should see a bunch of ko files	Oct 31 13:44
cubexyz	it could be in a subdirectory	Oct 31 13:46
msb_	ah yes, nvidia/nvidiafb.ko	Oct 31 13:47
msb_	Do you switch between text and graphic mode on the fb, or is there a separate text input channel which just enters text at the bottom and scrolls up?	Oct 31 13:49
cubexyz	ok, not sure what you mean but the chvt command can change to any terminal	Oct 31 13:53
cubexyz	you can ctrl-alt-2 and login and then you have a text (possibly framebuffer)	Oct 31 13:54
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cubexyz	it's really always graphical though	Oct 31 13:55
cubexyz	in the old days there was MDA which was true text mode	Oct 31 13:55
cubexyz	once you have the LKM loaded and you're logged in to another terminal you can do: fbset --info	Oct 31 13:56
cubexyz	that will give you more info	Oct 31 13:56
cubexyz	if things don't line up well you can pan around with: fbset -move left or right as needed	Oct 31 13:58
cubexyz	I think once you do run somethingfb it does open /dev/fb0 or something like that	Oct 31 14:01
cubexyz	I should warn you... it's quite possible to bork up the framebuffer	Oct 31 14:02
cubexyz	you might want to set up a separate machine just to play around with the framebuffer	Oct 31 14:02
cubexyz	technically I don't think the framebuffer module opens /dev/fb0 until you run something that needs it	Oct 31 14:03
cubexyz	you can even run the framebuffer in init 1	Oct 31 14:10
cubexyz	proof positive that the framebuffer module doesn't need X to work and doesn't "run under" X	Oct 31 14:10
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msb_	cubexyz: Many thanks! I will save this dialog for possible future fb usage. I think I will first try putting up graphics in X using qt or qt-ruby or whatever, so my programs don't have to take up the entire screen.	Oct 31 14:22
msb_	And no chance of borking things up. Only have the one machine.	Oct 31 14:23
cubexyz	it's better to learn X11 I'd say	Oct 31 14:27
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cubexyz	there could be an advantage to running the a machine with a framebuffer without X	Oct 31 14:28
cubexyz	one could optimize a machine for just video playback	Oct 31 14:28
cubexyz	X is more versatile though	Oct 31 14:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/660464416778002432	Oct 31 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: but is unable to articulate a single specific problem that lack of #SafeHarbour will cause other than inconvenience https://t.co/BlkBZYwvJI		Oct 31 14:36
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660465702525116416	Oct 31 14:39
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schestowitz	AC has not been doing anything to question the EPO's abuses, e.g. ignoring court orders	Oct 31 14:39
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6764699	Oct 31 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Law Enforcement: Traveling From Anywhere To Anywhere Is Suspicious Behavior https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151030/07031932676/law-enforcement-traveling-anywhere-to-anywhere-is-suspicious-behavior.shtml don't carry tracking device, aka "mobile"		Oct 31 14:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's	Oct 31 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	What's New https://t.co/myVcKmwDu8	Oct 31 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 15:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 15:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/660489619574808578	Oct 31 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz #nsa magazine ("Signal") says NSA needs every multi-billion company to make the NSA more powerful https://t.co/L8VDynjKjD		Oct 31 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.afcea.org \| Adm. Rogers: Government Needs Private Industry to Join Cyber Fight \| SIGNAL Magazine		Oct 31 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/660490172337889280	Oct 31 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz That's not "stigma", it's stereotype. :)		Oct 31 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/660490226771566593	Oct 31 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: #cybercyber stockstock infotainment junk https://t.co/FAvOh9dUSF		Oct 31 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Did you know that "hackers" work with green screens and Matrix-inspired themes? Here's the stigma perpetuated: https://t.co/s0R6a0TjBY		Oct 31 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660492225411997696	Oct 31 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: How do you know? https://t.co/XgwDs8xC5E		Oct 31 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @BoffJim AC has not been doing anything to question the EPO's abuses, e.g. ignoring court orders		Oct 31 16:24
schestowitz	I have been following this closely and writing about it	Oct 31 16:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660496377710059520	Oct 31 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: I'd noticed. https://t.co/CQ3kNsMnJp		Oct 31 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @BoffJim I have been following this closely and writing about it		Oct 31 16:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.2 Ubuntu 15.10 HDD Tests: XFS Leads	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	Over EXT4, Btrfs https://t.co/zhnNzB5hnm	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.2 Ubuntu 15.10 HDD Tests: XFS Leads Over EXT4, Btrfs \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solu is an adorable Linux PC that fits in your	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	pocket, but at a cost https://t.co/SOvhpTI8ed	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Oct 31 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Solu Is a Pocket-Sized Touchscreen Linux PC \| Digital Trends		Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA	Oct 31 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	Versions in System Settings	Oct 31 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Xh25GOtvTO (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions in System Settings - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Milestone Available for Download Now	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lHI3p8AlKD (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available for Download Now - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pPfOIEJ6hE (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon,	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Cinnamon 2.8.2 Available for Download	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DvyU46Goe2 (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Importance of Open Source in Root	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rIGMWkbDBW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Importance of Open Source in Root \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Builder IDE Is Working On Some Big	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	Improvements https://t.co/0pPEqm90GB	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 17:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.2 Ubuntu 15.10 HDD Tests: XFS Leads	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	Over EXT4, Btrfs https://t.co/O3BTpwaEe9	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 17:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/660507663428489217	Oct 31 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Can anyone provide a link to the actual TEXT of the 29 Oct 2015 resolution itself? Your links lead to Press Release. https://t.co/VayFGRzASS		Oct 31 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #europe "resolution is unlikely to help @Snowden anytime soon. " https://t.co/LmWhVyjkMZ too much pressure on polticians		Oct 31 17:25
schestowitz	It's somewhere in my daily links..	Oct 31 17:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twitch_Life/status/660507822342463488	Oct 31 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twitch_Life: does https://t.co/oLp0HqXUhn		Oct 31 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Twitch does #linux https://t.co/DM6tv8v779 https://t.co/JGN5Z9QrAw https://t.co/plkuMkHSWN https://t.co/nJP0QEL5pq https://t.co/wBD7oM3T4Y		Oct 31 17:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/msgbi/status/660507977120669696	Oct 31 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@msgbi: @schestowitz @TeraEuro go		Oct 31 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu	Oct 31 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS Daily Builds Out Now	Oct 31 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Wb2OMdAwQ8 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds Out Now - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pinguy Builder Review - Build Your Own Ubuntu	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	OS https://t.co/TyLZJet0eN (www.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softpedia.com \| Pinguy Builder Review - Build Your Own Ubuntu OS - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch does linux https://t.co/VVew2p3Wcm	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com) https://t.co/sRcfNNw2SE	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.destructoid.com) https://t.co/3vQhG27fys	Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Twitch is Trying to Install Arch Linux \| Digital Trends		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(hackaday.com) https://t.co/xLccEQW6XM	Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.destructoid.com \| Twitch users will attempt to install Linux together		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(thenextweb.com) https://t.co/k3KIAAin5V	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com \| Delightfully Horrible Idea: Twitch Installs Linux \| Hackaday		Oct 31 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| Twitch's next live community challenge: install Arch Linux		Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Twitch Users Prepare for the Biggest Collaborative Arch Linux Installation Ever - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/660510156321492992	Oct 31 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (i set a RECORD 4 wasted time yesterday searching for it on Web at in the opaque/obfuscatory E.Parliament official site.)		Oct 31 17:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Most Beginner Friendly Linux Distributions	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KRfwiQ4eux (www.insidermonkey.com)	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7yes	Oct 31 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insidermonkey.com \| 5 Most Beginner Friendly Linux Distributions - Insider Monkey		Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: Day of the Devs Arrives	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	with Six Linux Games	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5LltLpjfFF (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Humble Weekly Bundle: Day of the Devs Arrives with Six Linux Games - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fanless Pico-ITXe SBC runs Linux on quad-core	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	Eden X4 https://t.co/X0BbCh0sIs	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Fanless Pico-ITXe SBC runs Linux on quad-core Eden X4 · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon, Cinnamon...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Pinguy Builder Review - Build Your Own Ubuntu...'		Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Twitch is Trying to Install Arch Linux \| Digital Trends		Oct 31 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.destructoid.com \| Twitch users will attempt to install Linux together		Oct 31 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch does Linux https://t.co/m0sxneQkab	Oct 31 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7yjw	Oct 31 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Twitch does Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 19:20
schestowitz	[12:28] <Pinguinpat> Something on the word "sloeber" in this context it actuality means a opportunist who gets away with things. But make no mistake: a few seconds later the right person calls Battistelli a horrible manipulative bastard with blood on his hand being responsible for the suicide of 5 employees.	Oct 31 19:22
schestowitz	Ah	Oct 31 19:22
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schestowitz	[01:10] <XFaCE> [20:07:21]<schestowitz> just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	[01:11] <XFaCE> where do you get those meme photos?	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	[01:11] <XFaCE> the epo head in a tank :P	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	It's a Soviet tank launcher	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	I got it free on stock exchange, an Hungarian site	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	had to use GIMP	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	[19:23] <schestowitz> It's a Soviet tank launcher	Oct 31 19:24
schestowitz	I meant scud launcher	Oct 31 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@OpenTechSource Latest from the source, The Open Source Daily	Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	is out! https://t.co/3kRGAffI5N (paper.li)	Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	#OpenSource Articles via @TheBitCoinForum	Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines	Oct 31 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li \| The Open Source Daily		Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's	Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by What's New https://t.co/myVcKmwDu8	Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 a GO, KDE Not So Much	Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yFcjD5Zjma (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 23 a GO, KDE Not So Much \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU Hurd 0.7 & GNU Mach 1.6 Released	Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SYD3PTJI9O (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU Hurd 0.7 & GNU Mach 1.6 Released \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 packages now live	Oct 31 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TrKnZx9Ml7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 23 packages now live \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Devices https://t.co/osF9J58Akv	Oct 31 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Devices \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/eY5X0SBjoi	Oct 31 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 23:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Razer Opens OSVR Hacker Development Kit	Oct 25 01:15
TweetTuxMachines	Pre-Orders to General Public	Oct 25 01:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Cazq5el4j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 01:15
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 25 03:16
TweetTuxMachines	@debianupdate The linuxdebian Daily is out!	Oct 25 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KWz4Q3EkKR (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 25 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	@thaliaro24 @tuxmachines @SSF_de	Oct 25 03:42
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cubexyz	I'm getting some strange stuff in the httpd logs	Oct 25 03:55
cubexyz	Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE or Firefox mutant; not on Windows server;)	Oct 25 03:56
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 25 09:13
msb_	cubexyz: There are billions of computers on the planet, and your server is open to all of them. Why are you checking your httpd logs?	Oct 25 09:47
cubexyz	I'm always checking things	Oct 25 09:47
cubexyz	the httpd logs show new types of attacks, I like to be aware of what the bad guys are up to	Oct 25 09:48
cubexyz	here's a new one:	Oct 25 09:48
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/new-hack-attempts.txt	Oct 25 09:48
msb_	There is only one Linux distro that has a large, modern software base, lots of admins to keep it up, and doesn't use systemd, and that is Devuan.	Oct 25 09:49
cubexyz	always check the logs	Oct 25 09:49
cubexyz	what about slackware?	Oct 25 09:49
msb_	Isn't that source-based? You have to compile everything?	Oct 25 09:50
cubexyz	nope	Oct 25 09:50
msb_	How many admins?	Oct 25 09:50
msb_	wiki: latest release two years ago	Oct 25 09:52
cubexyz	I don't know how many people work on it	Oct 25 09:52
msb_	http://www.slackware.com/ Latest release 14.1 2013-11-07	Oct 25 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slackware.com \| The Slackware Linux Project		Oct 25 09:54
cubexyz	yeah I am a bit worried about Linux, that's why I work on OpenBSD and Plan 9	Oct 25 09:54
cubexyz	I could ask the same questions about Devuan... how many people work on that?	Oct 25 09:55
msb_	How up to date are those?	Oct 25 09:55
cubexyz	OpenBSD released 5.8 two days ago :)	Oct 25 09:55
cubexyz	Plan 9 is stagnant, nothing really new since 2002	Oct 25 09:56
cubexyz	more of a research/experiment thing	Oct 25 09:56
msb_	Does OpenBSD have the latest Linux video editors and such?	Oct 25 09:56
cubexyz	it's got lives, I've never tried it	Oct 25 09:57
msb_	lives?	Oct 25 09:58
cubexyz	http://lives-video.com	Oct 25 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lives-video.com \| LiVES Video Editing System - Because the media should be open		Oct 25 09:58
cubexyz	btw, is Devuan ready?	Oct 25 09:59
cubexyz	I don't see any iso's or anything yet	Oct 25 10:00
cubexyz	I have to be somewhat careful, as I have a lot of 32-bit machines to consider	Oct 25 10:01
msb_	They're hoping for beta soon.	Oct 25 10:01
cubexyz	for server, I would definitely say go openbsd	Oct 25 10:02
msb_	I suggested on #devuan that the two huge Debian data sources they depend on (see bottom of devuan.org homepage) be backed up by Devuan people, so in case they become unavailable due to political pressure from systemd forces, Devuan can continue.	Oct 25 10:03
msb_	All I got was ridicule -- "illuminati" "lunchtime is more important".	Oct 25 10:04
cubexyz	hmmm, really... that's a shame	Oct 25 10:04
msb_	Trying to talk to most people about the actualities of world politics -- it's like they're under post-hypnotic suggestion. They are _unable_ to think about it.	Oct 25 10:05
msb_	That	Oct 25 10:06
msb_	That's the result of the US corporate "news" propaganda system -- The CIA Mighty Wurlitzer as it was called decades ago.	Oct 25 10:07
msb_	People _are_ effectively under post-hypnotic suggestion.	Oct 25 10:07
cubexyz	at least nowadays everyone can have their own soapbox or blog or whatever	Oct 25 10:07
msb_	But the Internet runs on Linux, and Linux is now controlled by systemd. Devuan is the hope of the world for maintaing the humanity's communication system. And Devuan is run by zombies. They told me to take the discussion to another channel, where it wouldn't be heard by anyone influential over Devuan.	Oct 25 10:10
cubexyz	what is it now: GE, News-Corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner and CBS?	Oct 25 10:10
msb_	Fpx	Oct 25 10:10
msb_	Fox	Oct 25 10:10
cubexyz	owned by News-Corp :)	Oct 25 10:10
msb_	figures	Oct 25 10:11
cubexyz	ABC owned by Disney	Oct 25 10:11
msb_	What about Comcast?	Oct 25 10:11
cubexyz	owned by GE :)	Oct 25 10:12
cubexyz	there's probably some small-fry though, not owned by those 6 companies	Oct 25 10:13
cubexyz	but those 6 account for 90% of the media market	Oct 25 10:13
msb_	RT has great programming!	Oct 25 10:14
cubexyz	GE also owns NBC	Oct 25 10:14
cubexyz	of course that's US, in Canada things are a lot different	Oct 25 10:16
cubexyz	in theory, the CRTC says whether or not media companies can merge	Oct 25 10:17
msb_	RT has Thom Hartmann, Tyrel Ventura, Jesse Ventura, Max Keiser, George Galloway, and a great show called Crosstalk.	Oct 25 10:17
cubexyz	I think we have stricter rules about the media market	Oct 25 10:17
cubexyz	is it just http://rt.com ?	Oct 25 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| RT		Oct 25 10:18
msb_	CRT Controller 8^)	Oct 25 10:18
msb_	I get RT on TV cable!	Oct 25 10:18
cubexyz	it's available here too, but I haven't subscribed to it	Oct 25 10:18
cubexyz	I just have bare bones Satellite TV with a couple of extra channels	Oct 25 10:19
msb_	https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Canada/#where-to-watch__form	Oct 25 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Canada/#where-to-watch__form )		Oct 25 10:20
cubexyz	but do they transmit unencrypted?	Oct 25 10:21
cubexyz	probably not, but you never know	Oct 25 10:21
msb_	I watch it on my computer cable-tv card.	Oct 25 10:21
msb_	Via comcast. I think its in the cheapest channel selection.	Oct 25 10:22
msb_	The set-top box info just says "RT News -- Leased	Oct 25 10:24
cubexyz	yeah there's barely anything FTA now on satellite	Oct 25 10:25
msb_	F-ck The Army?	Oct 25 10:25
cubexyz	Free to Air	Oct 25 10:25
cubexyz	not encrypted	Oct 25 10:26
msb_	Only problem with RT is they don't show their schedule, so you just have to take pot luck. Usually they alternate half hour of news and half hour of some particular show. https://www.rt.com/shows/	Oct 25 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com \| Shows — RT		Oct 25 10:28
cubexyz	I wonder if maxemum still works, I haven't used it in a while	Oct 25 10:29
msb_	That page has links to all the show pages, and each one links to the most recent episodes, which can be downloaded with the latest youtube-dl.	Oct 25 10:29
msb_	big momma?	Oct 25 10:29
cubexyz	remember maxemumtvguide?	Oct 25 10:31
cubexyz	it was a KDE thing	Oct 25 10:31
cubexyz	looks like it still works	Oct 25 10:32
msb_	I use http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlistings/	Oct 25 10:32
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cubexyz	that's basically what maxemumtvguide uses	Oct 25 10:32
msb_	It used to be good, then they ruined it, now they've restored most of the previous features.	Oct 25 10:34
msb_	Like movie release dates and actors.	Oct 25 10:35
msb_	And the ability to see the evening schedule even after midnight.	Oct 25 10:35
msb_	maxemum is not in the KDE3 repo for suse 11.4	Oct 25 10:38
cubexyz	you might have to compile from source tarball	Oct 25 10:38
cubexyz	I have a pre-compiled binary if you want to try it	Oct 25 10:39
cubexyz	you'll also need mc2xml to make it work	Oct 25 10:39
msb_	looks like I was messing with it last year, and it's from 2007	Oct 25 10:40
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msb_	Thanks. zap2it is ok for now. It give season and episode numbers for series shows, so I can find them in naughty places.	Oct 25 10:43
msb_	YIFY has been off the air for nearly a week.	Oct 25 10:46
msb_	Maybe a SWAT team kicked down the door and machine-gunned everybody. Wouldn't put it past the copyright industry.	Oct 25 10:48
msb_	https://www.reddit.com/r/torrents/comments/3plq22/is_ytsto_down/ Says they got "Dosed" and will be up in a few days.	Oct 25 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Is yts.to down? : torrents [ http://ur1.ca/o6mof ]		Oct 25 10:52
cubexyz	maxemumtvguide needs a bit of patience	Oct 25 10:57
cubexyz	but it works ok once you figure out it's quirks	Oct 25 10:57
msb_	They think Paramount and Sony attacked their servers. But I don't know how a DOS attack would kill a site once the attack was IP-blocked.	Oct 25 10:58
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msb_	Maybe they were actually hacked.	Oct 25 10:59
cubexyz	well you know what they say about that...	Oct 25 11:08
cubexyz	Hail, Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a limb, and two more shall take its place!	Oct 25 11:08
cubexyz	:)	Oct 25 11:08
msb_	Is that from Marvel SHIELD?	Oct 25 11:09
cubexyz	actually they are the bad guys	Oct 25 11:10
cubexyz	they fight SHIELD :)	Oct 25 11:10
msb_	I know, I watch it.	Oct 25 11:10
cubexyz	just replace Hydra with systemd or linux or whatever :)	Oct 25 11:10
msb_	Isn't there an old saying about the Internet routes its way around all obstacles?	Oct 25 11:11
cubexyz	yes	Oct 25 11:11
msb_	We are living in _very_ interesting times!	Oct 25 11:11
cubexyz	Hail, Linux! Immortal Linux! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a distro, and two more shall take its place!	Oct 25 11:12
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msb_	I sure hope!	Oct 25 11:13
cubexyz	well the torrents definitely haven't stopped	Oct 25 11:14
msb_	Ever see Outer Limits 1995 S04E16 Final Exam? A physics student solves cold fusion and makes a bomb.	Oct 25 11:15
cubexyz	nope, haven't really watched anything in some time	Oct 25 11:16
msb_	It is so good! But rather brutal.	Oct 25 11:17
schestowitz	>>> "many of the machines are running an embedded version	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >> of Windows XP"	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >>	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >> http://www.wired.com/2015/09/dismal-state-americas-decade-old-voting-machines/	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >>	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>>> >> Inherently insecure and designed for fraud.	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	>> > Indeed, that's what I often worry about when it comes to Tor.	Oct 25 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com \| The Dismal State of America's Decade-Old Voting Machines \| WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/o6d08 ]		Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	> Do you think it might be worth it to put up a Tor Hidden Service after	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	> you have HTTPS? Or would people try to use Tor on top of some pwned	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	> Windows machine?	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	Tor is slow to use, but it has its uses ;-)	Oct 25 11:32
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/10/25/techrights-doc-drop/	Oct 25 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| How to Securely Provide Techrights With Information, Documents \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o6mzx ]		Oct 25 11:33
schestowitz	> Nice, but using IRC gives a way a metric fuckton of information	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> publicly. No need (or desire) to give TR opponents a heads-up warning.	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> I'm no expert but I'd even look at crap like mailinator, instead, over	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> Tor. With that, they could at least (manually) use PGP. Tails has an	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> OpenPGP client. It also has a mail client, should the whistleblower	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> have enough savvy to use a formal mail service anonymously.	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	The EPO and CRG already monitor our IRC, so we're not giving them anything that they don't already have.	Oct 25 12:16
schestowitz	> Not sure if this is of interest to you but we are passing it on for what it might be worth.	Oct 25 12:24
schestowitz	> We know that the main focus of your interest relates to so-called "software patents". However, that is not the only area where the EPO's practices are coming under fire.	Oct 25 12:24
schestowitz	> We are not experts in the area of "plant patents" so we will refrain from trying to comment in detail. We just wanted to direct your attention to some relevant coverage of this topic from various sources in case it might be of interest.	Oct 25 12:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fpietrosanti/status/658262526426222593	Oct 25 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fpietrosanti: @schestowitz You may wish to try @GlobaLeaks that’s being used also by anticorruption NGOs,public agencies,activists and citizen journalists		Oct 25 13:09
msb_	http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-foods/indian-farmers-committing-suicide-monsanto-gm-crops/	Oct 25 13:18
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msb_	There have been many reports over the years from Western farmers who had not planted GMO seeds, but had had their crops contaminated by pollen from neighboring farms, whereupon Monsanto did a genetic analysis of their crop and demand payment for seeds that had never been used.	Oct 25 13:25
msb_	Oops. The neighboring farms were using GMO seeds.	Oct 25 13:26
msb_	IIRC there have also been cases of corporations patenting entirely natural seeds, of plants that had been growing wild or cultivated for thousands of years, and using governments to force farmers to pay a fee to grow those plants.	Oct 25 13:29
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MinceR	http://www.technologyreview.com/view/542626/why-self-driving-cars-must-be-programmed-to-kill/	Oct 25 14:04
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XFaCE	MinceR: dafuq	Oct 25 14:05
MinceR	:)	Oct 25 14:05
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cubexyz	just set the autocars to go really slow :)	Oct 25 14:51
cubexyz	it's a BS article, actually	Oct 25 14:54
cubexyz	I've never been in any of the ridiculous situations mentioned in that article	Oct 25 14:54
cubexyz	autocars will be a lot safer than what we currently have	Oct 25 14:54
MinceR	the point is that there are ethical considerations to programming them	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	and there are many ways to fail	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	like prefer the occupants' lives -> backlash	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	prefer outside people's lives -> nobody will want to buy or use the self-driving cars	Oct 25 15:23
MinceR	though i think that the current state of the software industry is more reason for worry	Oct 25 15:24
MinceR	no quality, no care for quality	Oct 25 15:24
MinceR	companies like m$, crApple and redcrap being in charge	Oct 25 15:24
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cubexyz	it's not even good enough to do that though	Oct 25 15:27
cubexyz	is there a child in the middle of a road? is it a sheep? a barrel? a dummy?	Oct 25 15:27
cubexyz	the car would have to have HAL-like intelligence	Oct 25 15:28
cubexyz	at best it will sense there's an obstacle to not hit	Oct 25 15:29
cubexyz	probably by braking	Oct 25 15:29
cubexyz	it's not going to decide, hey it's drive into a wall instead of hitting those 10 people in the middle of the road	Oct 25 15:30
cubexyz	s/it's/let's/	Oct 25 15:30
cubexyz	it's a false dilemma	Oct 25 15:31
MinceR	indeed, if it can't identify objects precisely, it can't come close to solving ethical dilemmas	Oct 25 15:31
cubexyz	get all pedestrians to wear sensors, that might work	Oct 25 15:32
cubexyz	I don't think it would be too hard to improve on the current system we have now	Oct 25 15:33
MinceR	lol	Oct 25 15:33
MinceR	and then we can track all pedestrians remotely	Oct 25 15:33
MinceR	and even disable sensors remotely to cause "accidents" :>	Oct 25 15:33
cubexyz	I thought they were already tracking them via mobile phones	Oct 25 15:33
cubexyz	well, it's better than drunk humans at least	Oct 25 15:34
MinceR	there's no threat of cars running into you for not carrying a mobile phone yet, though	Oct 25 15:35
cubexyz	I think there's 1.3 million deaths world-wide in road crashes per year	Oct 25 15:35
cubexyz	that's a lot	Oct 25 15:39
cubexyz	I see bad driving all the time too	Oct 25 15:41
cubexyz	just gunning it down the street I live on	Oct 25 15:42
MinceR	so do i	Oct 25 15:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/forgettalktalk/status/658304586877263873	Oct 25 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@forgettalktalk: IF YOU'RE A #TALKTALK CUSTOMER & WANT TO JOIN A GROUP TO FIGHT FOR COMPENSATION READ: https://t.co/I3JtUYzxM0 RT https://t.co/Gb4TQl78W7		Oct 25 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #talktalk is now paying for advertising (in football breaks) that's just lousy 'damage control' after they got cracked. That's where $ goes?		Oct 25 16:00
schestowitz	they got cracked	Oct 25 16:00
schestowitz	wonder if they used Windows	Oct 25 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU LibreJS 6.0.10 released	Oct 25 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ugntvhcTSV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:14
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__martin__	geekings	Oct 25 16:30
__martin__	seems like on 28th of the October the start of the "2016 - 2019 Joint Strategic Plan on Intellectual Property Enforcement" [sic] by U.S. will get decided for good or worse	Oct 25 16:31
__martin__	Aurous (aurous.me) is appealing RIAA suit	Oct 25 16:32
__martin__	meanwhile the (in)famous Popcorn-Time (used to be popcorntime.io) got wiped out of the net with devs scattering here and there (most probably under direct threat from MAFIAA =)	Oct 25 16:33
__martin__	there is some https://butterproject.github.io/ thou.. we shall see if http://techdirt.com/ aka Mr. Moody comes up with some reports in the weeks coming	Oct 25 16:33
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__martin__	no wonder RMS and the FSF comes up with https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html =P // in the age of DMCA GitHub's takedowns	Oct 25 16:34
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__martin__	MinceR: how's your systemd-less journey going?	Oct 25 16:35
__martin__	btw, I gave a try to this openSUSE Leap distro based on SLES (whis is used by European Space Agency / with SLED desktops maybe as well)	Oct 25 16:37
XRevan86	__martin__: and?	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	well, you should have seen their KDE Frameworks 5 & Plasma 5 combo.. :_D	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	like 7 items in KDE's system-settings GUI	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	segfaulted whole app xD	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	[never happened on Kubuntu]	Oct 25 16:38
__martin__	and then	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A History of Android Market Share: How Google's	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	Mobile Operating System Dominated the Globe	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LxnifY8p4y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel oops collector is back in Debian!	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3TiAGeeGq6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:39
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__martin__	I decided to wipe out their / btrfs partition with gparted from bunsen labs (community continuacy of crunchbang) liveusb	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/lgaURXqRzj	Oct 25 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 16:39
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__martin__	guess what	Oct 25 16:39
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__martin__	first the Xubuntu installer coudn't wipe that partition from Ubiquity and format it with ext4	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	then I tried the aforementioned gparted and it said O.K.	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	but that bloody bootstrapped SUSE was still there :D	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	it took the third time to get rid of it	Oct 25 16:40
__martin__	..	Oct 25 16:41
__martin__	it was Release Candidate.. well they made a leap, giant leap for the mankind ;D	Oct 25 16:41
__martin__	also folks	Oct 25 16:42
__martin__	beware that nvidia's blob switch to proper modesetting modules	Oct 25 16:42
__martin__	Xorg at certain configurations won't load and one has to dig into configs	Oct 25 16:43
__martin__	enjoy some nice tunes :)	Oct 25 16:57
__martin__	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTA0DSfrGZ0&index=9&list=PL2vpKU4b5J1Sxd1GkL4HLTv1WyFzgHUSs	Oct 25 16:57
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schestowitz	__martin__: hi	Oct 25 16:58
schestowitz	__martin__: the latest release of kubuntu fixed things for me, but I found a serious installer bug	Oct 25 16:59
schestowitz	managed to get around it in the CLI	Oct 25 16:59
schestowitz	[16:33] <__martin__> there is some https://butterproject.github.io/ thou.. we shall see if http://techdirt.com/ aka Mr. Moody comes up with some reports in the weeks coming	Oct 25 17:00
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schestowitz	Did he tell you?	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	UK gov. actually banned the software itself	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	and linking to it	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	it's free software	Oct 25 17:00
schestowitz	hence unprecedented	Oct 25 17:00
__martin__	schestowitz: glyn did not said, it's just my assumption	Oct 25 17:00
__martin__	UK ISPs seem to censor a lot more than the european subsidiaries of Deutche Telekom	Oct 25 17:01
__martin__	say*	Oct 25 17:01
__martin__	what sort of bug you experienced roy? the same one with partitioner or	Oct 25 17:03
schestowitz	no	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	scanner library	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	throwing a dialogue	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	which crashed the python installer	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	sane	Oct 25 17:10
schestowitz	other people in irc reported something which potentially is similar	Oct 25 17:11
schestowitz	tried to file a bug report	Oct 25 17:11
schestowitz	but it's a mess	Oct 25 17:11
schestowitz	hopefully they read irc (the devs)	Oct 25 17:11
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__martin__	http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/25/us-talktalk-cyberattack-idUSKCN0SJ0OY20151025	Oct 25 17:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel oops collector is back in Debian!	Oct 25 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oR0CEDtCCa (balintreczey.hu)	Oct 25 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6pw6	Oct 25 18:16
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MinceR	__martin__: i still haven't installed anything newer than wheezy-derived stuff on any of my boxen	Oct 25 18:20
MinceR	i'll probably start with devuan beta or bedrock nyla, when one of those gets released :>	Oct 25 18:24
MinceR	or netbsd, when i feel like it	Oct 25 18:55
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cubexyz	MinceR, did you see the special upgrade to windows 10 for kids?	Oct 25 19:03
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/hey-kid-upgrade-to-windows-10.png	Oct 25 19:03
MinceR	stasi, home edition?	Oct 25 19:03
MinceR	lol, i haven't seen this one	Oct 25 19:03
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MinceR	i knew this one: http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html	Oct 25 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net \| Windows 10 automatically spies on your children and sends you a dossier of their activity / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/neq0q ]		Oct 25 19:04
cubexyz	might be time for the DOJ to step in again	Oct 25 19:09
__martin__	pro-nato army of my country is doing some recruitment for cheap labour, understand click monkeys and best brainwash candidates for their programmes and "special undergrads"	Oct 25 19:10
__martin__	my father pissed me off with this one	Oct 25 19:10
__martin__	after whole 24yrs he does not know that his son is anti-state anti-war	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	</rl_rants>	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	:D	Oct 25 19:11
__martin__	he buys himself a book about ex-reykjavik mayor with anarchist background and does not learn the moral from it	Oct 25 19:13
__martin__	(chilling effect of being raised under deep socialism and patriarchal mother)	Oct 25 19:14
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cubexyz	this is rather a small point given all the other bad things but Windows 10 is back to setting it's own browser as default	Oct 25 19:17
cubexyz	not to mention all the wasted bandwidth with forced updates	Oct 25 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.3-rc7 https://t.co/y8anAwbpfe	Oct 25 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	(lkml.iu.edu) #kernel #linux	Oct 25 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6qiz	Oct 25 19:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/oweXY0Z2aA	Oct 25 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 25 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6qgk	Oct 25 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 19:27
schestowitz	[17:14] <__martin__> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/25/us-talktalk-cyberattack-idUSKCN0SJ0OY20151025	Oct 25 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com \| TalkTalk hires BAE Systems to investigate cyber attack \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/o6qm1 ]		Oct 25 19:38
schestowitz	LOL BAUE	Oct 25 19:38
schestowitz	BAE=army	Oct 25 19:38
cubexyz	http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html	Oct 25 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org \| Microsoft's Software Is Malware - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/o6qmf ]		Oct 25 19:39
cubexyz	there's pretty much a straight to NSA policy with windows	Oct 25 19:40
cubexyz	I'd say we've stepped into Big Brother territory	Oct 25 19:43
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy:	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> Thank you for another fine article, telling it like it is!	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> thttp://techrights.org/2015/10/22/all-things-open-hijacked/	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	>	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> But in it, note this typo:	Oct 25 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| At All Things Open (ATO) Microsoft is Embracing, Extending, Extinguishing GNU/Linux, Hopes to Do the Same to Android (Updated) \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/o5gwq ]		Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> In "What should even organisers do in this situation?",	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> change "even"	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	> to "event".	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	I shall correct this immediately, thank you!	Oct 25 19:49
schestowitz	"v"	Oct 25 19:53
schestowitz	"Presumably because everyone here cares about privacy and security, or other problems that may involve privacy and security. Because that's why they are here in the first place :-) but that's logical. And which topic is your personal favourite? Security?"	Oct 25 19:53
schestowitz	GNU/Linux	Oct 25 19:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DragonBox Pyra Linux Based Gaming Plus Console	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	Emulation Available To Pre-Order Now	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V47awlSp70 (hacked.news)	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r13	Oct 25 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacked.news \| DragonBox Pyra Linux Based Gaming Plus Console Emulation Available To Pre-Order Now • Hacked News		Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On to Fedora 23 and New Tools	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PDhIFWJiSt (dissociatedpress.net)	Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r15	Oct 25 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ http://dissociatedpress.net/on-to-fedora-23-and-new-tools/ )		Oct 25 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Marshmallow: What the Phones Are Going	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	to Look Like https://t.co/DN3zeUr50Y	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cheatsheet.com)	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r3u	Oct 25 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cheatsheet.com \| Android Marshmallow: What the Phones Are Going to Look Like		Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Behind the scenes of the KDE Phone HIG – Part	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Two: The HIG creation process	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sU8UWmACO3	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(sessellift.wordpress.com)	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r3v	Oct 25 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sessellift.wordpress.com \| Behind the scenes of the KDE Phone HIG – Part Two: The HIG creation process \| sessellift		Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SlimPort Nano Console turns your Android	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	smartphone into a set-top box	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qaKDrvpN3j (www.geek.com)	Oct 25 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r3w	Oct 25 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com \| SlimPort Nano Console turns your Android smartphone into a set-top box \| Android \| Geek.com		Oct 25 20:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LucidGlow/status/658377251143159808	Oct 25 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LucidGlow: @schestowitz Established filmmakers are turning more and more 1984. They should be attacked viciously by everyone defending true freedom.		Oct 25 20:39
schestowitz	"Fair enough. I guess we all are, more or less. And it's a good thing. Today some updates crashed my GUI (the whole OS wasn't booting properly, GUI wasn't booting at all), so I had to reinstall it. with no live USB or DVDs. Just with built-in tools. Nobody's gonna do that on windows, at least in customer builds. And it's a lot of fun as well. If you are doing something to save yourself, you might as well have fun in the process :-) Sorry if	Oct 25 20:43
schestowitz	I talk too much, I'm just new here and don't people yet. Just a couple of guys."	Oct 25 20:43
schestowitz	From what I've read, Windows is actually more likely to become hosed and bricked than a decent GNU/Linux distro, even without outside help	Oct 25 20:43
MinceR	systemd will help with that	Oct 25 20:44
MinceR	wait, you said 'decen't	Oct 25 20:44
MinceR	s/n't/nt'/	Oct 25 20:44
MinceR	never mind :)	Oct 25 20:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6743372	Oct 25 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #brainwashing #television #consumerism #life #time #comic #comics		Oct 25 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by mara_lavdara@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_55cfd80fc621fdebd82c.jpg		Oct 25 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by mara_lavdara@pod.orkz.net: https://pod.orkz.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_55cfd80fc621fdebd82c.jpg		Oct 25 20:45
schestowitz	"I just want Diaspora to auto-collapse every long ass post. I don’t think this should be overly controversial."	Oct 25 20:45
schestowitz	"mhm, maybe yo (diaspora) need a button ‘show more’ ?! or,markdown knows [more]i think …"	Oct 25 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines iOS 9 vs Android 6.0: Images Depicts Close	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	Comparison Between Two Latest OS Available in	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	Market; Android 6.0 wins.	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cjeECEIuR4 (en.yibada.com)	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r8n	Oct 25 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.yibada.com \| iOS 9 vs Android 6.0: Images Depicts Close Comparison Between Two Latest OS Available in Market; Android 6.0 Won Over iOS 9? : Tech : Yibada		Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines John McAfee (yes, him) on security and Android	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mePKxO1hWg	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidcentral.com)	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r8o	Oct 25 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com \| John McAfee (yes, him) on security and Android \| Android Central		Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Landry Breuil	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DxATFuF80q (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r8p	Oct 25 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Landry Breuil \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review of Fedora 23 https://t.co/l4o07uqInB	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r8s	Oct 25 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review of Fedora 23 \| Tux Machines		Oct 25 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23: KDE vs. Xfce vs. GNOME vs. LXDE vs.	Oct 25 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	MATE https://t.co/kCWxLDTrSr (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r9r	Oct 25 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora 23: KDE vs. Xfce vs. GNOME vs. LXDE vs. MATE - Phoronix		Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review of Fedora 23 https://t.co/Yau2WUAqm4	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.unixmen.com)	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r9s	Oct 25 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com \| Review of Fedora 23 \| Unixmen		Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 11.0.4 Is Scattered With Fixes	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cAdRmozGZz (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6r9t	Oct 25 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Mesa 11.0.4 Is Scattered With Fixes - Phoronix		Oct 25 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fresh Fedora 23 GNOME Shell Wayland Tests	Oct 25 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SoHQv6CoD4 (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6rhg	Oct 25 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fresh Fedora 23 GNOME Shell Wayland Tests - Phoronix		Oct 25 21:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openmamba milestone3 https://t.co/aBPVSKrK8c	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	(openmamba.org)	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6rj1	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Stellarium 0.14 Has Been Released	Oct 25 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bE0MP7cx35 (linuxg.net)	Oct 25 21:18
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schestowitz	jono: good to hear you're in github, I have two accounts there	Oct 25 21:26
jono	thanks schestowitz!	Oct 25 21:26
jono	excited to get started!	Oct 25 21:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/658398380196925440	Oct 25 21:44
schestowitz	jono: my wife has an account there too, and she uses ubuntu with unity ;-p	Oct 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines External Screen Support For Unity 8 On Ubuntu	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Is Finally Near https://t.co/FGb5nytV4A	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6s1q	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HHVM News https://t.co/bKWIXAvgw1	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6s1r	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel https://t.co/Zazmd85bnj	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6s1w	Oct 25 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hack: A free open source font for all reasons	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(but mainly for rendering source code)	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fFggKuCW4D (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjj	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	Called DoFlicky https://t.co/AXaWNUueZR	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjl	Oct 26 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 3D Graphics Library 11.0.4 Out Now with	Oct 26 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	Many Bugfixes https://t.co/gOVZNO16rs	Oct 26 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6wjm	Oct 26 04:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 3D Graphics Library 11.0.4 Out Now with...'		Oct 26 04:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool...'		Oct 26 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LabPlot 2.1.0 released https://t.co/kgOFxElAYQ	Oct 26 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	(labplot.sourceforge.net)	Oct 26 09:32
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cubexyz	and I do see a fair number of laptops that are broken due to heat damage	Oct 26 09:32
cubexyz	btw the all time stat for IE on my blog is a lowly 12%	Oct 26 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GUADEC 2016 https://t.co/yHyqu6vdXm	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	(permalink.gmane.org) Karlsruhe, Germany, will	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	host GUADEC in the summer of 2016."	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zio	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Android camera apps that can shoot raw photos	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/34WphUspwp (www.phonearena.com)	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zip	Oct 26 09:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CIO: Business advice on IT value	Oct 26 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PGhaME7Lps (www.zdnet.com)	Oct 26 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6ziq	Oct 26 09:42
cubexyz	I didn't just block Microsoft domains for adsense, but I also blocked gambling and betting sites	Oct 26 09:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FocusWriter 1.5.5 Brings Fixes	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ekwIk6eBq5 (linuxg.net)	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	"open-source and cross-plaftorm, working on	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	Linux"	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zow	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines History, the World, and KDE: Discovering Marble	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TmzJ6P697W	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com)	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zp1	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus Is Getting a Cool Driver Management Tool	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	Called DoFlicky https://t.co/nb25sRMyK3	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/zcB4eckSUa	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zp3	Oct 26 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A troubleshooting process for Linux problems	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DXRXbIC5Iy (opensource.com)	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zru	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LFA (Linux For ALL) Distro Is Now Based on	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10, Debian 8.1, and Fluxbox	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tvYkpyMOzP (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	"Ubuntu-based LFA"	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o6zrv	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux Update Brings New Kernels,	Oct 26 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox, Python, and Haskell	Oct 26 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6sN2hXJU5c (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 10:05
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cubexyz	lol...	Oct 26 10:19
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Oct 26 10:19
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/internet-troll.jpg	Oct 26 10:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Divinity Original Sin - Enhanced Edition	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Arrives on Linux in December	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/feBGw2GLlM (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Years After Wayland 1.0, Will 2016 Be The Year	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Of The Wayland Desktop? https://t.co/BR0EoRh2zv	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708r	Oct 26 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Years After Wayland 1.0, Will 2016 Be The Year Of The Wayland Desktop? - Phoronix		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	developer tools https://t.co/kHQBp0KXxQ	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708v	Oct 26 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced developer tools \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/syXdePIs39	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708y	Oct 26 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vYyNkFuP7O (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o708z	Oct 26 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/I0XnJ31KZj	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7091	Oct 26 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 10:44
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cubexyz	autodesk does the subscription thing too	Oct 26 11:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/d3dJbDxgi8	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70vb	Oct 26 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus'	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Budgie Desktop https://t.co/LpP2MWqDz0	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70vd	Oct 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Laura https://t.co/xOQLhGgcKt	Oct 26 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus’ Budgie Desktop \| Techrights		Oct 26 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	(krita.org)	Oct 26 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70ve	Oct 26 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Interview with Laura \| Krita		Oct 26 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines G’MIC 1.6.7 (Standalone Software And GIMP	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	Plugin) Has Been Released	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/x4gJRH3U1M (linuxg.net)	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zj	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bQhukX8g3w (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zu	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I'm an artist who loves Linux	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Lh5fbYCWw (opensource.com)	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zv	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	developer tools https://t.co/dgkldHCua1	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.cloudpro.co.uk)	Oct 26 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o70zw	Oct 26 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://linuxg.net/install-gmic-on-ubuntu/ )		Oct 26 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Avengers Is an Excellent Resource for Users Who Want to Report Ubuntu Touch Bugs - Softpedia		Oct 26 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Sreenivas Alapati: My Linux Story \| Opensource.com		Oct 26 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk \| Ubuntu 15.10 offers new UI and enhanced developer tools \| Cloud Pro		Oct 26 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Tools Could Bring Xubuntu, Lubuntu,	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	and Ubuntu Server to Raspberry Pi 2	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3XofG9dtiX (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o711w	Oct 26 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE Tools Could Bring Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Ubuntu Server to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arch Linux 2015.10.01 ISO Image Brings Support	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux Kernel 4.2, More	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JcJjkIvrUF (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o711x	Oct 26 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Arch Linux 2015.10.01 ISO Image Brings Support for Linux Kernel 4.2, More - Softpedia		Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	the Road the Size of Python 3	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uPyeVuVSBJ (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 26 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o711y	Oct 26 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in the Road the Size of Python 3 - Softpedia		Oct 26 12:01
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 26/10/2015: GUADEC 2016 Plans, Solus' Budgie Desktop...'		Oct 26 12:03
cubexyz	ok, trying to contact AMI again	Oct 26 12:07
*TweetTuxMachines @arindammanidas favourited 'Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a...'		Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	the Road the Size of Python 3	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tnE1oKOQvf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o715e	Oct 26 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mycroft AI on Ubuntu's Unity 8 Hits a Bump in the Road the Size of Python 3 \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack: The good, the bad, and the ugly	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ftcwKyTbo2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o715i	Oct 26 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenStack: The good, the bad, and the ugly \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 12:10
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*Now talking on #techrights		Oct 28 17:53
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Oct 28 17:53
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 28 17:53
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cubexyz	scientists seem to know better	Oct 28 17:53
cubexyz	at least some of them	Oct 28 17:53
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/reuse-computers.txt	Oct 28 17:55
cubexyz	eused is selling linux computers cheap	Oct 28 17:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SOLVED - VirtualBox Is Not Installing In Ubuntu	Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	15.10 Due To Missing Dependency "Libvpx1"	Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/40H3MfkZfk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kp9	Oct 28 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SOLVED - VirtualBox Is Not Installing In Ubuntu 15.10 Due To Missing Dependency "Libvpx1" \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/LcROueODxb	Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kjk	Oct 28 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV 2.0 SDK has been Released and	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	Available to Download https://t.co/Es3fXH6Ein	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kqu	Oct 28 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Veeam announces Backup for Linux	Oct 28 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mO2rZhX8h5 (www.itweb.co.za)	Oct 28 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za \| Veeam announces Backup for Linux \| ITWeb		Oct 28 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7krd	Oct 28 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India	Oct 28 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WXPoXT0K4b (www.linuxveda.com)	Oct 28 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7krz	Oct 28 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Samsung launches Linux phone Z3 in India \| Linux Veda		Oct 28 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch to Get the Major OTA-8 Update in	Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	Two Weeks, Feature Freeze in Effect	Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5Jwm90LW5h (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ksk	Oct 28 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch to Get the Major OTA-8 Update in Two Weeks, Feature Freeze in Effect - Softpedia		Oct 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud	Oct 28 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	[sic] leaders https://t.co/xIuwyZ2B2j	Oct 28 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Oct 28 18:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ksz	Oct 28 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat opens up Ceph storage to other cloud leaders \| ZDNet		Oct 28 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops,	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	Integration Has Started https://t.co/3XD9JsfGW2	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ktt	Oct 28 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft AI Already Working on Linux Desktops, Integration Has Started - Softpedia		Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y8yv7y7mwY	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.thehindubusinessline.com)	Oct 28 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com \| Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India \| Business Line		Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kud	Oct 28 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "around three-quarters of businesses use Linux	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	as a primary cloud platform"	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4e7u0s5aqS (www.cloudpro.co.uk)	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/V8q7jRbnL4	Oct 28 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk \| Veeam releases free back up tool for enterprise Linux servers \| Cloud Pro		Oct 28 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com \| Veeam cleans up dirty backup worries on Linux - Open Source Insider		Oct 28 18:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/haniefhaider/status/659442640291803136	Oct 28 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@haniefhaider: Is this Mark Shuttleworth company?<<@schestowitz: Ubuntu in talks to make handsets in India https://t.co/OR5qPzZyfa #ubuntu #linux #india"		Oct 28 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerweekly.com)	Oct 28 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kw5	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines College partners with Dell and Red Hat --	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	embraces open source and Linux solutions	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Erjq1uuBBD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| College partners with Dell and Red Hat -- embraces open source and Linux solutions \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kwd	Oct 28 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/Jcen8KMtie	Oct 28 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat News \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kx3	Oct 28 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tor: a landmark for hidden services	Oct 28 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PSGzfiUUOj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxc	Oct 28 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tor: a landmark for hidden services \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet	Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/PIIsOd6i9k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxj	Oct 28 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google, HP, Huawei Support of OpenStack	Oct 28 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/to4U59xZSZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7kxt	Oct 28 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google, HP, Huawei Support of OpenStack \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 19:12
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/droosien/status/659450234808967168	Oct 28 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@droosien: True https://t.co/XpFcFwC3mB		Oct 28 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: .@droosien @Snowden The perfect #nsa mascot is already 'taken', and it's not a hoax https://t.co/bPaY3Bu7S2		Oct 28 19:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659450278987608064	Oct 28 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Patent attorney cracks joke on LinkedIn re. EPO preferred applicants policy. Has a point. @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/uxInGYENmu		Oct 28 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Patent attorney cracks joke on LinkedIn re. EPO preferred applicants policy. Has a point. @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/uxInGYENmu		Oct 28 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines College partners with Dell and Red Hat --	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	embraces open source and Linux solutions	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GymFYjmLft (betanews.com)	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l4y	Oct 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| College partners with Dell and Red Hat -- embraces open source and Linux solutions		Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Old iMac Ubuntu Studio Installation	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XYkGBPG0ya (freedompenguin.com)	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	"getting more life out of the old Mac."	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l4z	Oct 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com \| Old iMac Ubuntu Studio Installation - Freedom Penguin		Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mTOnp7do0s (www.linux.com)	Oct 28 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7l52	Oct 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Replace Your Laptop with an Android Tablet \| Linux.com		Oct 28 19:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459214331392000	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @AltLegalHQ @schestowitz @FOSSpatents Appeals court: Google Books 'fair use' (FOR SNIPPETS) standard helps Oracle in Android-Java case vs.G.		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AltLegalHQ/status/659459395118604288	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AltLegalHQ: @schestowitz thanks for the RT!		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459591009210368	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @lmbrownlee1 App. court: Google Books 'fair use' (FOR SNIPPETS) standard helps Oracle in Android-Java case vs. G. @AltLegalHQ @schestowitz		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659459853857878017	Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Only "Tax Fraud"...? https://t.co/2rX3gYSdHp		Oct 28 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The IRS Has Stingrays … But We Knew Stingrays Have Been Used to Chase Tax Fraud https://t.co/2llRkqJt8i #stingray #irs		Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	They start as tax cheats and next thing you know.... THEY JOIN ISIS!	Oct 28 20:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/morvjn/status/659457177996914688	Oct 28 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@morvjn: @schestowitz Always remember: Goverment has unlimited ressources to destroy targets, unlike companies...		Oct 28 20:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/659460651228643328	Oct 28 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Was wondering about IRS use in mere COLLECTION, as contrasted with T.F. crimes, per se.		Oct 28 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMandriva Forums https://t.co/hFQuXHkLVq	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com)	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lav	Oct 28 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com \| Mandriva Linux Chronicles: OpenMandriva Forums		Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Reportedly Planning Big Driver Update For	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	November https://t.co/pCWuPfNZkC	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7law	Oct 28 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| AMD Reportedly Planning Big Driver Update For November - Phoronix		Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Benchmarks Of NWI's Insurgency FPS Game	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	On Linux https://t.co/g1OiOy2vvI	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lax	Oct 28 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA Benchmarks Of NWI's Insurgency FPS Game On Linux - Phoronix		Oct 28 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Gigantic New Android Tablet	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FeGAh055I8 (time.com)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf6	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com \| Samsung's New Galaxy View Tablet Wants To Replace Your TV		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8bGXTxIVWB (www.blacklablinux.org)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf7	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blacklablinux.org \| Black Lab Linux: Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gImageReader 3.1.2 Brings Fixes And Updates	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/K2lyWqssBx (linuxg.net)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lf8	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| gImageReader 3.1.2 Brings Fixes And Updates \| LinuxG.net		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Gigantic New Android Tablet	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LqdkLKOSZ0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lff	Oct 28 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Wants to Replace Your TV With This Gigantic New Android Tablet \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux cousins Part 2: Reviewing ReactOS, the	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source version of Windows	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/z7GO4bGgeX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7lfk	Oct 28 20:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 5.1 in final development stage	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/C45F4c63IP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alien Isolation, Insurgency, and Missing	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS Icons https://t.co/larNbyMtes	Oct 28 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 20:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/659469290530304000	Oct 28 20:39
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schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2015/10/16/genesis-of-epo-microsoft-ties/	Oct 28 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO’s Jeremy Philpott Confirms That Discriminatory (Software) Patent Processing Practices Started With Microsoft, Because of Microsoft \| Techrights		Oct 28 20:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JSgmlyKNf8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 21:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Black Lab NEXT 2015.10 RC4 Released \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rackspace serves up free Carina Docker-based	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	container-as-a-service beta on OpenStack	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/opvR1oR2PU (www.zdnet.com)	Oct 28 21:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Rackspace serves up free Carina Docker-based container-as-a-service beta on OpenStack \| ZDNet		Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Batman: Arkham Knight Delayed For Linux Until	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Next Spring https://t.co/NEgPuR5TCz	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) requires proprietary OS	Oct 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	then...	Oct 28 21:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines I’ve made the iPhone 6s into my dream Android	Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	phone https://t.co/a3VZEAs61K (bgr.com)	Oct 28 21:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| iPhone 6s Google apps: Android no longer needed \| BGR		Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora summer 2016 internships.	Oct 28 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n3e2eWSQ0P (paul.frields.org)	Oct 28 21:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org \| Fedora summer 2016 internships. - The Grand Fallacy		Oct 28 21:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @iphone_romania favourited 'I’ve made the iPhone 6s into my dream...'		Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/bCVALvOous	Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora: The Latest \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/9ozWrYJ8Lt	Oct 28 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 21:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice and Government	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HmCe0BZBv6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 22:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice and Government \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/YKG64R6dtt	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 22:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/JwsfV9jSho	Oct 28 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 22:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 22:10
MinceR	http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/10/28/un-urges-japan-to-ban-sexual-images-of-children-in-manga-japanese-netizens-tell-un-to-shut-up/	Oct 28 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.rocketnews24.com \| UN urges Japan to ban sexual images of children in manga, Japanese netizens tell UN to shut up \| RocketNews24		Oct 28 22:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi's GNU/Linux Laptops	Oct 28 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	and OpenStack's Massive Expansion	Oct 28 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/33WxIRymvh (techrights.org)	Oct 28 23:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi's GNU/Linux Laptops and OpenStack's Massive...'		Oct 28 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 28/10/2015: Xiaomi’s GNU/Linux Laptops and OpenStack’s Massive Expansion \| Techrights		Oct 28 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the	Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	NEW Ten Game Trinity 3 Bundle from Bundle Stars	Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ixulT4TwCS (www.gamasutra.com)	Oct 28 23:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the NEW Ten Game Trinity 3 Bundle from Bundle Stars		Oct 28 23:29
*TweetTuxMachines @GameDevBRbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows, Mac & Linux Experiences Await in the...'		Oct 28 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/4soBZ04AhZ	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 23:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/FDCinSlp0d	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 23:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Workstation update	Oct 28 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7k1ZTAWvV9 (blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 28 23:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init	Oct 29 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	Scripts https://t.co/7k1ZTAWvV9	Oct 29 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	(blogs.gnome.org)	Oct 29 00:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init...'		Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	Scripts https://t.co/bDimXwXoHD	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 29 00:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Fedora To Finish Phasing Out System V Init Scripts - Phoronix		Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Subsurface 4.5(.1) Released	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gvDACgRwt8	Oct 29 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	(liveblue.wordpress.com)	Oct 29 00:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liveblue.wordpress.com \| Subsurface 4.5(.1) Released \| Live Blue		Oct 29 00:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GOG Have More Dungeons & Dragons Available On	Oct 29 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/YV8NOqfMSw	Oct 29 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Oct 29 02:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@baseanswers ODF(tm) World News is out!	Oct 29 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aPAwJP0qBP (paper.li) Stories via	Oct 29 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @LOcommits @Schiggy69	Oct 29 07:35
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schestowitz	> "He has already arguably significantly changed the world... "	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> x	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/bill-gates/11959711/bill-gates-turns-60-5-ways-he-wants-to-change-the-world.html	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Bill Gates turns 60: five ways he wants to change the world - Telegraph		Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> ... albeit for the worse. He's made bad engineering acceptable. Now	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> pushing zero-rating	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	Together with Zuckerberg	Oct 29 09:10
schestowitz	> "The subscription fee will give users unlimited, automatic cloud	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> storage of their all of their Solu data."	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> ...	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> "Solu runs on a Linux-based operating system called Solu OS."	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> http://yle.fi/uutiset/with_pocket-size_desktop_solu_aims_to_change_computing/8413937	Oct 29 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi \| With pocket-size desktop, Solu aims to change computing \| Yle Uutiset \| yle.fi		Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	> GNU also?	Oct 29 09:21
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> ==	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/mark-zuckerberg-in-india-defends-facebooks-plan-to-expand-internet-access/	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> zero-rating	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> ==	Oct 29 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/o7obf ]		Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> intro:	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> paper:	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf	Oct 29 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.invisiblethings.org \| Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)		Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	> not sure why it's PDF instead of xHTML	Oct 29 09:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659660685463396352	Oct 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Blogger @schestowitz says he's being threatened by the EPO but can't be more specific yet. https://t.co/lDtkkxjxjy		Oct 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents @glynmoody I can't say yet		Oct 29 09:24
schestowitz	> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11959016/Apple-reports-biggest-annual-profit-in-history.html	Oct 29 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Apple reports biggest annual profit in history with net income of $53.4bn - Telegraph		Oct 29 09:34
schestowitz	>	Oct 29 09:34
schestowitz	> overcharging by that much	Oct 29 09:34
schestowitz	And putting the money abroad, to dodge tax.	Oct 29 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sharing Work Is Easier With An Open Document	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	Format https://t.co/DwfjcrIw0p	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7of5	Oct 29 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sharing Work Is Easier With An Open Document Format \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kirin brews OpenStack private cloud to reduce	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	IT operation costs by 75 percent	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b0sGgkkG1H (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7of6	Oct 29 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kirin brews OpenStack private cloud to reduce IT operation costs by 75 percent \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 09:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/659668780855988224	Oct 29 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID.		Oct 29 09:58
schestowitz	"Just so we're clear, it's called the "Ellison effect". Shill marketers with sleazy tactics selling proprietary tech. "	Oct 29 09:58
schestowitz	Tweet deleted now	Oct 29 09:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/659669763426287616	Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz a very important fight! wish you best of success. @glynmoody		Oct 29 09:59
schestowitz	re EPO	Oct 29 09:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Brainiarc7/status/659670300435451904	Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brainiarc7: And Lo, and behold, another backdoor is unveiled. https://t.co/HBGjx1igVX		Oct 29 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cisco a back doors company https://t.co/6xxwf6g9F7		Oct 29 09:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SoluMachines/status/659671212277301248	Oct 29 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SoluMachines: @schestowitz we haven't made any decision on whether to open source Solu's full OS. Obviously kernel tweaks will be pushed upstream.		Oct 29 10:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659672172374441984	Oct 29 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz you must, I believe.		Oct 29 10:06
schestowitz	I am, but it's expensive	Oct 29 10:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659672986006511616	Oct 29 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz expensive what? The possible lawsuit?		Oct 29 10:08
schestowitz	Lawyer fees	Oct 29 10:08
schestowitz	I will publish the details next month, patience needed here	Oct 29 10:09
cubexyz	Don't trust Gates the Extractor, that's my advice	Oct 29 10:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GreyBservices/status/659673656637943809	Oct 29 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GreyBservices: @schestowitz great. @FOSSpatents you may like to know it too. Dr. Roy will release the documents next month.		Oct 29 10:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6756917	Oct 29 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Email #Encryption Is Broken http://motherboard.vice.com/read/email-encryption-is-broken there are alternative methods for comms		Oct 29 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com \| Email Encryption Is Broken \| Motherboard		Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	Mailservers can be configured to deny mail intake without TLS. They can also be configured to deny delivery to servers without TLS.	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	Mailclients can be configured to deny communication without TLS.	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	As is the case with Email end-to-end encryption: People need to do something for themselves and should not perpetually rely on others to solve their (privacy) issues.	Oct 29 10:13
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: joshua stein	Oct 29 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/22tOkB4bsc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 10:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deweloperzy OpenBSD: joshua stein \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fMHLk8GSd9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ojt	Oct 29 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 5.1 to Start Twice as Fast, Has MS	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	Office 2016 Interoperability	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ANWHBySsUe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oju	Oct 29 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 5.1 to Start Twice as Fast, Has MS Office 2016 Interoperability \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle striving to become #1 Linux vendor	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AuZz0NTQde (siliconangle.com)	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7okd	Oct 29 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com \| Oracle striving to become #1 Linux vendor \| #oow15 \| SiliconANGLE		Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 1-Net Is Canonical's First Ubuntu Certified	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	Public Cloud Partner in South East Asia	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pGGuijJ7k6 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7oke	Oct 29 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| 1-Net Is Canonical's First Ubuntu Certified Public Cloud Partner in South East Asia - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 4.4 Will Be an LTS Release	Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Rlk7xXeFC (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 4.4 Will Be an LTS Release - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.10.92 LTS Is a Small Release,	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Adds M68k and SPARC Fixes	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qVGVarcytt (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.10.92 LTS Is a Small Release, Adds M68k and SPARC Fixes - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/18x9xxr7fV (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	high-end disguise https://t.co/IZlopsvdgM	Oct 29 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Oct 29 10:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in high-end disguise \| The Verge		Oct 29 10:24
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6757120	Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #softpedia looks at the latest of #gnome & #gtk http://news.softpedia.com/news/gtk-plus-prepares-for-gnome-3-20-adds-new-apis-and-wayland-fixes-more-495464.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-s-evolution-groupware-client-now-uses-oauth2-for-google-sources-495461.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-photos-3-20-enters-development-fixes-many-annoying-issues-495459.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GTK+ Prepares for GNOME 3.20, Adds New APIs and Wayland Fixes, More - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME's Evolution Groupware Client Now Uses OAuth2 for Google Sources - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Photos 3.20 Enters Development, Fixes Many Annoying Issues - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Logs Open-Source Log Viewer for the systemd Journal Has a New Maintainer - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6756954	Oct 29 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Lego Tells Political Artist To Hit The Bricks, Refusing To Sell Him Legos https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151026/06581732635/lego-tells-political-artist-to-hit-bricks-refusing-to-sell-him-legos.shtml always been a ruthless, PR-centric company		Oct 29 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com \| Lego Tells Political Artist To Hit The Bricks, Refusing To Sell Him Legos \| Techdirt		Oct 29 10:36
msb_	cubexyz: Did you see this? http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf	Oct 29 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.invisiblethings.org \| Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)		Oct 29 10:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Z2qtzlnMjj (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Snappy Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Will Support Nvidia and AMD Drivers, Says Mark Shuttleworth - Softpedia		Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The State Of Fedora Workstation 23, Looking	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead To Fedora 24 https://t.co/vT5DMoYBL4	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 29 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| The State Of Fedora Workstation 23, Looking Ahead To Fedora 24 - Phoronix		Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines softpedia looks at the latest of gnome & gtk	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hwKpEbety3 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wa3xbnxW0k (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/neDSfucxMI (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ngfIROGMEF (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 29 10:42
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cubexyz	that's why it's so important to have BIOS source code	Oct 29 10:51
cubexyz	as I stated before, the current situation is rather poor	Oct 29 10:51
cubexyz	AMI won't upgrade orphaned BIOS without tons of $$$	Oct 29 10:52
cubexyz	keep some older computers around is my advice...	Oct 29 10:52
cubexyz	older computers == no SMM, no DASH, and even BIOS source code in some cases	Oct 29 10:53
cubexyz	if the BIOS is backdoored from the factory you have no chance at all	Oct 29 10:54
cubexyz	you'd have to run coreboot or reverse engineer the BIOS, which can be very difficult and take years of work	Oct 29 10:54
cubexyz	probably why the nukes still use PDP-11, it's the only thing they trust	Oct 29 10:58
cubexyz	if intel backdoors the CPU it's game over	Oct 29 10:58
cubexyz	also the idea that coreboot always runs the FSP before the BIOS is incorrect	Oct 29 11:09
cubexyz	on older motherboards don't have FSP	Oct 29 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Short SMARC COM runs Linux on Bay Trail over	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	wide temps https://t.co/0V9x90vu6R	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 29 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Short SMARC COM runs Linux on Bay Trail over wide temps · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	high-end disguise https://t.co/Wh1wdL8bho	Oct 29 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The OnePlus X is a low-cost Android phone in high-end disguise \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:11
cubexyz	the Intel Firmware Support Package is a relatively new thing	Oct 29 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The new era of community	Oct 29 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/X5frBOUnBI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7osc	Oct 29 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The new era of community \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:12
msb_	Checksums the BIOS?	Oct 29 11:13
cubexyz	also the FSP is optional	Oct 29 11:13
cubexyz	you can get non-FSP motheboards	Oct 29 11:14
cubexyz	the trick of course is to know what you're buying	Oct 29 11:14
cubexyz	award bios from 1999 has no mention of FSP, so that's in the clear	Oct 29 11:15
cubexyz	I don't remember checksum, do a byte-by-byte comparison of your BIOS with a known BIOS image or even better, generate the BIOS yourself from source code	Oct 29 11:16
cubexyz	that PDF article doesn't consider older technology	Oct 29 11:24
cubexyz	they make the assumption that everyone always upgrades to latest and greatest, which is not true	Oct 29 11:25
cubexyz	older motherboards do NOT have the Intel Management Engine	Oct 29 11:27
cubexyz	anything old enough to be passively cooled for example	Oct 29 11:28
cubexyz	doesn't need the thermal stuff	Oct 29 11:28
cubexyz	we have a crap situation though regarding heat which always astounds me	Oct 29 11:30
cubexyz	basically the OEMs are selling overheating hardware	Oct 29 11:30
cubexyz	it's basically designed to fail	Oct 29 11:31
cubexyz	all the older P4's failed... all of them	Oct 29 11:31
cubexyz	but the older P3's survived mostly	Oct 29 11:31
cubexyz	and of course, even older stuff survives, assuming one takes good care of the equipment and uses a UPS	Oct 29 11:32
cubexyz	some of the BSODs on windows were really due to heat damage on the motherboard	Oct 29 11:32
cubexyz	very old stuff like PDP-11s and PDP-10s could overheat too... the power supplies radiated a LOT of heat	Oct 29 11:33
cubexyz	I can list a number of P3 computers that didn't overheat:	Oct 29 11:33
cubexyz	Tyan servers I built myself did not overheat... even running 100% cpu for weeks	Oct 29 11:34
cubexyz	the IBM PC 300GL, never overheated... which is why you still see the odd one today	Oct 29 11:35
cubexyz	P3 400 mhz with no fan... just a big heat sink	Oct 29 11:35
cubexyz	of course Eququests with low powered 486 CPUs didn't overheat, but they would fail in other ways... the caps in the monitor would fail	Oct 29 11:36
cubexyz	5V Pentiums got pretty hot, didn't see many of those survive the test of time	Oct 29 11:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xGs4L562e (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch Developers Preparing for a Possible Rebase on Xenial Xerus \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:41
cubexyz	personally I think the systems engineering is pretty crap nowadays	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/QU97Owpwk4	Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tumbleweed Rolling Along, Leap Release Imminent	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qoQckFx1fA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 11:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tumbleweed Rolling Along, Leap Release Imminent \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Ubuntu is different from Debian	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/j6WuKCWrXi (www.unixmen.com)	Oct 29 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ovq	Oct 29 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixmen.com \| How Ubuntu is different from Debian \| Unixmen		Oct 29 11:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/659705568387559424	Oct 29 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz And will be more different, over time. Mark will do something to distance from the distro and that init system by RH.		Oct 29 12:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/659715798219546624	Oct 29 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz It seems most orgs dislike when a public figure condemns them, they always try to nullify the threat to the status quo.		Oct 29 13:02
cubexyz	stuff like rowhammer only works because DRAM cells have gotten so small	Oct 29 13:08
cubexyz	again, this doesn't happen on older tech	Oct 29 13:09
msb_	Probably not many people have older computers laying around, because they bought a new one when the older one stopped working.	Oct 29 13:19
cubexyz	assuming no heat damage it's power supplies and capacitors that fail most often	Oct 29 13:21
cubexyz	of course hard drives will probably fail	Oct 29 13:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/659720632997953536	Oct 29 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz "Terrorists" like Belgacom, Merkel, The UN, etc		Oct 29 13:22
cubexyz	but I'd say it's the software obsolescence that plays a factor also	Oct 29 13:23
msb_	You have my phone number. Please give me a call when you learn that the missiles are going to fly, so I can duck and cover.	Oct 29 13:23
cubexyz	new operating comes out... runs like a turd on old computer, old computer gets put in closet or out to the curb	Oct 29 13:24
cubexyz	I'm more like Ralph Nader than William Blum :)	Oct 29 13:27
cubexyz	I'm advocating computers and operating systems that last a long time	Oct 29 13:28
cubexyz	what could the average dude do if the missiles were really launched?	Oct 29 13:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757429	Oct 29 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "effects of art censorship or unjustified restrictions of the right to freedom of artistic expression and creativity" http://freemuse.org/archives/11301		Oct 29 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> freemuse.org \| Zimbabwe: Censorship board should be abolished, says workshop group \| Freemuse		Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	[13:27] <cubexyz> I'm more like Ralph Nader than William Blum :)	Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	Did Blum write anything about MSFT?	Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	I know Nader did	Oct 29 13:31
schestowitz	ages ago	Oct 29 13:31
msb_	RUK: Yes, the old ones. ... It became necessary to destroy them.	Oct 29 13:32
cubexyz	schestowitz, only obiquely, I would say	Oct 29 13:32
cubexyz	and strictly in a political context	Oct 29 13:33
cubexyz	e.g. Blum wrote about Microsoft banning Cuba from using their instant messaging network	Oct 29 13:34
msb_	RUK: That was the equation! (grabs Kirk by the neck) Existence! Survival! Must cancel out programming!	Oct 29 13:34
cubexyz	great lines :)	Oct 29 13:35
cubexyz	"You came from the outside. You bring disorder here."	Oct 29 13:35
msb_	If only people realized that their existence was being threatened, they might drop their programming.	Oct 29 13:36
cubexyz	each generation has to figure it out for themselves	Oct 29 13:36
msb_	That's my favorite line from all of Star Trek. If only Ruk had dropped Kirk into the abyss, things would have been so much better. Kirk destr0yed every happy culture he encountered.	Oct 29 13:40
cubexyz	Nader was pretty savvy, he knew about Xerox	Oct 29 13:41
cubexyz	https://mondediplo.com/1997/11/nader	Oct 29 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mondediplo.com \| What to do about Microsoft? - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition		Oct 29 13:42
msb_	Even that immortal guy, who was Brahms and various other geniuses. He finally succeeded in building an android woman companion for himself who was as smart as he was. So Kirk "fell in love" with her and shorted her out.	Oct 29 13:44
msb_	Kirk -- whose name of course means "church" -- ruined everything.	Oct 29 13:44
cubexyz	it's implied in the title Flint was also Methuselah	Oct 29 13:46
msb_	Excellent movie _The Man from Earth_ (2007), written by Jerome Bixby, who wrote for Star Trek. Also deals with immortality. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/combined	Oct 29 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Man from Earth (2007)		Oct 29 13:51
msb_	Highly recommended!	Oct 29 13:53
cubexyz	back in 1997 Nader was worried that Microsoft would drive Netscape out of the market and maybe even monopolize the internet itself	Oct 29 13:55
cubexyz	the doomsday scenario whereby Microsoft takes over all computing didn't happen	Oct 29 13:56
cubexyz	http://nader.org	Oct 29 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nader.org \| Ralph Nader - consumer advocate, lawyer, and author		Oct 29 13:59
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schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/6758410	Oct 29 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #natwest is grossly understaffed having replaced human workers with machines; human workers don't dress formal; wear ADVERTS instead now!		Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	humans still want jobs	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	twenty fifteen	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 29 17:40
schestowitz	Indeed, we're told otherwise...	Oct 29 17:40
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abeNd-org	heh, tell that to most people on welfare, they quite enjoy not working & sucking up my hard earned money to buy spinner rims & crack	Oct 29 17:49
abeNd-org	and telling me how I am racist if I suggest they seek employment	Oct 29 17:50
schestowitz	nope	Oct 29 17:55
schestowitz	they cannot find work	Oct 29 17:55
schestowitz	either due to health issues or some other reasons like work record	Oct 29 17:55
schestowitz	don't generalise, some people really want to get employment but can't	Oct 29 17:56
MinceR	i don't see how that's racist	Oct 29 17:56
schestowitz	see, Fox news like to play both cards	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	sometimes at the same time	Oct 29 17:58
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schestowitz	poor and black/Latino at the same time	Oct 29 17:58
schestowitz	see, according to News Corp. (Murdoch), all of the US problems are due to angry blacks and lazy Latinos	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	not outsourcing to China	Oct 29 17:59
abeNd-org	plenty of poor white folks in my community too	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	In reality, many latinos work the fields that feed the US	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	and blacks tend to do some very hard jobs, including military careers and steel works	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	abeNd-org: yes, it's not a race thing	Oct 29 17:59
schestowitz	but when some news channels speak to redneck they capitalise on the race card	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	so that Latinos and whites don't unite against the rich class	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	instead do drive-by shootings and distrust	Oct 29 18:00
abeNd-org	see, if any of them gave a rats arse, they would go to the library, fill out employment forms there, educate themselves on a work related subject, take free online classes/training/etc, but no, the ones that do come by only pick up movies (most of the time stealing them & claiming them lost/broken/stolen) or play video games	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	I'm not saying you watch Fox 'News'	Oct 29 18:00
schestowitz	I have some neighbours who are jobless	Oct 29 18:00
abeNd-org	SOMEHOW they manage to afford a PS4, a 65"+ TV, & a zillion games, and the time to play them	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	and they're nice, hard-working people, at least until they had health issues	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	abeNd-org: your neighbours of the fictional cherry-picked people shown on TV?	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	Here too the media plays this game	Oct 29 18:01
abeNd-org	and there are plenty of physically/mentally able people sitting at home smoking crack and playing video games instead of educating themselves	Oct 29 18:01
schestowitz	portrays people who are unable to find employment as hishonest, lazy, etc.	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	They barely even get much welfare, just enough for basic bills	Oct 29 18:02
abeNd-org	schestowitz no, I "judge" by what I see going through town	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	maybe in Texas	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	not in here	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	not in general anyway	Oct 29 18:02
abeNd-org	schestowitz was the same in GA, and even worse in MI	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	michigan has employment issues	Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz	it has a residue from an industrial boom era	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	not the jobs are in china and its vicinity	Oct 29 18:03
abeNd-org	schestowitz yes it does, but plenty of self induced issues as well	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	so the anger should be directed at execs who did this	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	and thus concentrated US wealth (and political influence)... such that around 2% of the US population has the majority of the overall wealth, IIRC	Oct 29 18:03
schestowitz	Because their workers are in China	Oct 29 18:04
abeNd-org	and now you have the likes of disney/suntrust bank/etc replacing american workers with less expensive H1Bs, even making the fired workers stay on for free for 2 yrs (but I think suntrust finally pulled that after the media controversy over that clause)	Oct 29 18:05
schestowitz	yes, so now you know who the real problems are	Oct 29 18:07
schestowitz	not the H1Bs	Oct 29 18:07
schestowitz	the people who discard the workforce for them	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	Those H1Bs are law-abiding and want to cater for their families	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	US politicians are the very people who, under corporate pressure (or bribes), make programs like H1B	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	!google bill gates techrights H1B	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Bill Gates Targets Visa Rules for Tech Workers : NPR \| http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D88154016	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 ... \| http://www.computerworld.com/article/2490207/technology-law-regulation/u-s--senator-blasts-microsoft-s-h-1b-push-as-it-lays-off-18-000-workers.html	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Bill Gates to Congress: Let us hire more foreigners - CNET \| http://www.cnet.com/news/bill-gates-to-congress-let-us-hire-more-foreigners/	Oct 29 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - 2009 December 15 \| Techrights \| http://techrights.org/2009/12/15/	Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz	Your enemy isn't the poor	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	or the foreign	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	but the global(ist) ruling elite	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	those who want more for themselves and less (or nothing) for everybody else	Oct 29 18:09
schestowitz	as long as the latter group doesn't show up with pitchforks in their back yards, whereupon they invite their increasingly-militarised goons (police) in an effort to thwart resistance, sometimes pro-actively (thoughtcrime, NSA)	Oct 29 18:10
schestowitz	BTW, my wife's uncle immigrated to Texas and worked there for over a decade, got amnesty	Oct 29 18:11
schestowitz	Houston IIRC	Oct 29 18:11
schestowitz	There is clearly motivation to race to the bottom, and it's coming not from the wider population but from the few who profit from hard-working and over-stressed people	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> @SenSanders The State, in a democratic, civilized society,	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> should itself not be involved in the murder of	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> other Americans.	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7q8v	Oct 29 18:12
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schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> @SenSanders The time is now for the United States to end	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> capital punishment.	Oct 29 18:12
schestowitz	<TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7q77	Oct 29 18:12
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schestowitz	https://t.co/thJJvQZE8s	Oct 29 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com \| European Parliament Says Snowden Should Be Welcomed in Europe		Oct 29 18:13
schestowitz	"big heh"	Oct 29 18:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757569	Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The "stop resisting!" mentality from #nsa http://www.thedrum.com/news/2015/10/27/nsa-deputy-director-warns-increasing-cyber-attacks-and-calls-nations-draw-red-lines http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34647541 http://time.com/4088225/cyber-attacks-nsa-richard-ledgett/ http://www.scmagazine.com/nsa-slams-snowden-but-accepts-need-for-high-level-debate-on-privacy/article/449602/		Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thedrum.com \| NSA deputy director warns of increasing cyber attacks and calls for nations to draw red lines \| The Drum [ http://ur1.ca/o7qaa ]		Oct 29 18:17
schestowitz	The sins never die.	Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk \| NSA chief warns of cyber attack danger from nation states - BBC News		Oct 29 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> time.com \| Danger of Cyberattacks Is Growing, NSA Official Warns		Oct 29 18:17
schestowitz	"The sins never die.https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6757644	Oct 29 18:17
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cubexyz	Microsoft doesn't care about anyone	Oct 29 18:28
cubexyz	if profits slip then out ya go	Oct 29 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenStack and HP https://t.co/lef1ARRN0L	Oct 29 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7qfj	Oct 29 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical, Red Hat Among Ceph Distributed	Oct 29 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	Storage Advisory Board https://t.co/cgxpMRMN86	Oct 29 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7qfl	Oct 29 18:41
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-monopoly-oem.pdf	Oct 29 19:51
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cubexyz	the OEMs were a bunch of pansies	Oct 29 19:58
cubexyz	even in 1994 I saw some students running Linux	Oct 29 19:58
cubexyz	the OEMs didn't even try any alternative operating systems except BeOS and that was squashed	Oct 29 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Security Process -- Part 1: A Cloud	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	Security Introduction https://t.co/cPbDYakVSF	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7qvr	Oct 29 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets (Open	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	Hardware) https://t.co/Iefs1W7Oy4	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7qvs	Oct 29 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Novena: A Laptop With No Secrets (Open Hardware) \| Tux Machines		Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/AyEYA7RoEF	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7qvt	Oct 29 20:12
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cubexyz	From 2002:	Oct 29 20:41
cubexyz	"Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly already proved her bias when she insisted that all state's documents be provided in Microsoft Word format."	Oct 29 20:42
cubexyz	unbelieveable	Oct 29 20:42
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schestowitz	ah!!	Oct 29 21:56
schestowitz	I didn't know she was /this/ biased	Oct 29 21:56
schestowitz	cubexyz: is that in the PDF?	Oct 29 21:56
schestowitz	[17:04] <MinceR> so, what happened to cray's love affair with m$?	Oct 29 21:57
schestowitz	Not heard of that in a long time, maybe it was mostly a press release and catalogue	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	to help Microsoft sell the illusion that MS is not totally dead in HPC	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	It still did some campaigning about that around 2010	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	not later, so I assume they gave up formally, more or less...	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	Lots of media noise about it when I did my PhD around 2005	Oct 29 21:58
schestowitz	to the point where some utter f* idiot in our department decided to become MS' experience	Oct 29 21:59
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schestowitz	to dump the Linux HPC, its admin resigned in protest	Oct 29 21:59
schestowitz	I also voiced my opposition, but I was too "low level" compared to the Profs	Oct 29 21:59
schestowitz	So I ranted in my blog at the time	Oct 29 21:59
schestowitz	I can find it in my blog it I _really_ try	Oct 29 22:00
schestowitz	[14:29] <cubexyz> he actually does use Linux	Oct 29 22:00
schestowitz	Still? Evidence of it?	Oct 29 22:00
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Viper550	microsoft getting way too aggressive in forcing its spyware-encrusted Vista 10 on everyone by any means nessecary	Oct 29 22:24
cubexyz	schestowitz, I'll contact him...	Oct 29 22:30
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Viper550	http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/29/9639414/microsoft-windows-10-automatic-update-recommended	Oct 29 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Microsoft planning to automatically offer Windows 10 to existing PCs \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/o7rjo ]		Oct 29 22:31
cubexyz	I'll report any reply here	Oct 29 22:33
Viper550	oh, and a silly small claims court in my country claimed that asking someone to send them a copy of something from a paywalled publication is actually a circumvention of DRM!	Oct 29 22:36
cubexyz	was this case in Canada?	Oct 29 22:40
Viper550	yep	Oct 29 22:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/RSpRcsIWDG	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7rs2	Oct 29 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Python and Java https://t.co/U4LgfSGhY9	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7rs3	Oct 29 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XWLs57tu6j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 29 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7rs4	Oct 29 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat is boring -- and more open source	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	companies should emulate it	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Tz2J7ukD8t (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7s4k	Oct 30 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat is boring -- and more open source companies should emulate it \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	K1 https://t.co/crLHltarQs	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7s4l	Oct 30 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra K1 \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 00:21
MinceR	no, nobody should emulate redcrap	Oct 30 00:23
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MinceR	they've done more harm to gnu/linux than m$ ever could	Oct 30 00:23
MinceR	or crApple	Oct 30 00:23
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MinceR	http://8ch.net/v/src/1446167679707-1.png	Oct 30 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/eThQa98Kwa	Oct 30 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7sg7	Oct 30 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google killing Chrome OS and building it into Android \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 01:37
*TweetTuxMachines @alexleitor followed @tuxmachines		Oct 30 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Skimming Files Before You Grep Them	Oct 30 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QG812j4P5N (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7sg8	Oct 30 01:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $70 worth of paid Android apps are on sale for	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	free right now on Amazon	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TKJB7o7Qmw (bgr.com)	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmf	Oct 30 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines FFmpeg and Kodi arrived to jessie-backports!	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BL9WUhzEcd (balintreczey.hu)	Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmg	Oct 30 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu \| FFmpeg and Kodi arrived to jessie-backports! \| Obsessed with reality		Oct 30 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma: Workaround for maximized windows	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	that expand under panel	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7kTJAfaP1S	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	(dingyichen.wordpress.com)	Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tmi	Oct 30 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dingyichen.wordpress.com \| KDE Plasma: Workaround for maximized windows that expend under panel \| Definite's Extractor		Oct 30 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NF4j99XiH2 (lifehacker.com)	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp2	Oct 30 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto X Force: A shatterproof Android phone for	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	outside the U.S. https://t.co/5mK136LZXj	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Oct 30 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Moto X Force: A shatterproof Android phone for outside the U.S. \| ZDNet		Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp3	Oct 30 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/irGpB9PnK1	Oct 30 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tp5	Oct 30 09:08
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schestowitz	x http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/28/bill-gates-birthday-predicted-future	Oct 30 09:21
*schestowitz barfs		Oct 30 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ew.com \| Bill Gates predicted the future in January 2000 \| EW.com		Oct 30 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the	Oct 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Freedom of Android https://t.co/a99RICLp4t	Oct 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Oct 30 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tr9	Oct 30 09:22
*TweetTuxMachines @deusexstigma retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsof -Connected Xamarin Demolishes the Freedom of Android...'		Oct 30 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft-Connected Xamarin Demolishes the Freedom of Android \| Techrights		Oct 30 09:22
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/irGpB9PnK1'		Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	on i.MX6UL https://t.co/Uf2nFzsbdg	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ttg	Oct 30 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on i.MX6UL \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQ47SViVMs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tth	Oct 30 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on	Oct 30 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems	Oct 30 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/I72goa1NvY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tti	Oct 30 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/lFHIAbTOus	Oct 30 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ttj	Oct 30 09:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A road trip into the Free Software Foundation's	Oct 30 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	early days https://t.co/RWzsQQJYQF	Oct 30 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7ttv	Oct 30 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A road trip into the Free Software Foundation's early days \| Tux Machines		Oct 30 09:42
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on GParted...'		Oct 30 09:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/lFHIAbTOus'		Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines “Other than Android won these wars, iOS is a	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	healthy niche market … Windows Phone continues	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	to remain dead” https://t.co/KvME5Hy5jy	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(communities-dominate.blogs.com)	Oct 30 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7tz4	Oct 30 10:24
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msb_	_The Shadow_ 1994 Alec Baldwin, Penelope Ann Miller, Peter Boyle -- wonderful! The Shadow knows! Bwa-ha-ha http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111143/combined	Oct 30 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| The Shadow (1994)		Oct 30 10:38
cubexyz	maybe Gates can explain why CD owners can't backup their CDs on windows	Oct 30 11:00
cubexyz	a long time ago, about 1998 I started to hear about 'convergence'	Oct 30 11:01
cubexyz	TVs and computers were supposed to merge	Oct 30 11:02
cubexyz	now I knew that wouldn't happen in general simply because for work PCs you're not supposed to be watching television!	Oct 30 11:02
cubexyz	although I didn't predict the Linux TV, in hindsight it seems logical	Oct 30 11:03
cubexyz	in 1994 did I think I'd be living in a linux dominated house? no way	Oct 30 11:03
cubexyz	the death of Commodore and the Amiga, the failure of Minix, the extinction of Xenix, and the rise of Linux happened	Oct 30 11:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: A lot of people stopped watching TV.	Oct 30 11:05
XRevan86	Because TV is not the best source of information and entertainment anymore.	Oct 30 11:05
cubexyz	that is true	Oct 30 11:05
cubexyz	I'll add in fact that Microsoft squeezed out BeOS to the list	Oct 30 11:07
cubexyz	s/in/the/	Oct 30 11:07
XRevan86	So TV won't merge into PC because PC doesn't need that TV thing at all.	Oct 30 11:08
cubexyz	my TV is basically a Linux computer, I've taken it apart	Oct 30 11:09
cubexyz	the internals are very similar to a laptop	Oct 30 11:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: What do you watch on it?	Oct 30 11:09
cubexyz	news, sports, nature shows	Oct 30 11:09
cubexyz	the screen is an output device, I can plug a real computer into it and use ffplay and mplayer to watch stuff I've downloaded	Oct 30 11:10
XRevan86	Okay, wrong question. cubexyz: Do you watch "traditional" TV broadcast or do you use Internet?	Oct 30 11:10
cubexyz	I use the internet more than broadcast/satellite TV	Oct 30 11:11
cubexyz	both really, but more on internet	Oct 30 11:11
XRevan86	By the way, TV (broadcast) is widely called "zombiebox" in Russian Internet :).	Oct 30 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Build a Portable Hacking Station with a	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Raspberry Pi and Kali Linux	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto https://t.co/NF4j99XiH2 (lifehacker.com)	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7u4i	Oct 30 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deweloperzy OpenBSD: Stefan Sperling	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QmkEvKblQC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/o7u4j	Oct 30 11:13
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XRevan86	https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/зомбоящик	Oct 30 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wiktionary.org \| зомбоящик — Викисловарь		Oct 30 11:13
cubexyz	yes, it's stupefying	Oct 30 11:13
cubexyz	endless car commercials	Oct 30 11:13
cubexyz	but windows 10 has managed to crap up the computer as well	Oct 30 11:17
cubexyz	I think I mentioned the start button gives you burger ads :)	Oct 30 11:18
XRevan86	"Windows 10: the burger for your PC"	Oct 30 11:18
cubexyz	the lock screen may be next	Oct 30 11:18
cubexyz	what is the future.... coca-cola calendar, McDonals email client, Wal-mart web browser?	Oct 30 11:20
cubexyz	it could be very bad	Oct 30 11:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: Microsoft Coca-Cola, Microsoft McDonalds, Microsoft Wal-mart	Oct 30 11:20
XRevan86	Would be very progressive.	Oct 30 11:21
cubexyz	sounds like a future dystopia	Oct 30 11:21
cubexyz	the last 20 years or so have been like brainwashing	Oct 30 11:23
cubexyz	https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/store/music/album/xavier/brainwashing/8d6kgx7gx288	Oct 30 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microsoft.com \| Brainwashing - Microsoft Store		Oct 30 11:26
cubexyz	actually forget future dystopia, it's dystopia now :-/	Oct 30 11:28
XRevan86	3 hundred years of Enlightenment	Oct 30 11:30
XRevan86	it is time to go back to medieval darkness	Oct 30 11:30
cubexyz	http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from	Oct 30 11:30
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cubexyz	MinceR, can you believe this crap?	Oct 30 11:31
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schestowitz	> Hey there. You free about 1400 to chat?	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	Yes, of course. I am about to publish today's 4th article about the EPO, and I still have some new information in my inbox (haven't had time to review that material yet). The EPO is having a very tough week, so I expect reckless finger-pointing from them.	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	Patent lawyers in Europe have told me that I "must" fight the EPO over this. They too are curious about the outcome.	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Oct 30 12:38
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schestowitz	cubexyz: isn't that old news?	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	What's the data on it?	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	I remember something like "mommy, where did this home server come from?"	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	around 2010	Oct 30 12:38
cubexyz	right	Oct 30 12:38
schestowitz	is this old?	Oct 30 12:38
cubexyz	I only saw it today :)	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	ok, if they still do it, then we need to rebut	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	I think they stopped	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	maybe they canned the PR con behind it	Oct 30 12:39
cubexyz	that article was from 2008	Oct 30 12:39
cubexyz	so you are right, it's 'old' in computer terms	Oct 30 12:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/660072274125594624	Oct 30 12:41
cubexyz	I still think about 1995 sometimes	Oct 30 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Thank you very much for posting this article! People are suffering for years at EPO hopefully they wake up before it's too late		Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	cubexyz: thanks for nostagism [suc]	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	You're bring back a lot of stuff people tend to forget about	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	though they're still very relevant	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	not many discuss boot freedom in the media anymore	Oct 30 12:41
schestowitz	MS won the 'war'	Oct 30 12:42
schestowitz	and now UEFI is widespread	Oct 30 12:42
cubexyz	UEFI can be replaced given sufficient knowledge	Oct 30 12:42
cubexyz	the other alternative is to use older pre-UEFI computers	Oct 30 12:43
schestowitz	> Hold off publishing your next article until after we chat. Will call between 1400 and 1430.	Oct 30 12:43
schestowitz	OK, no problem...	Oct 30 12:43
cubexyz	I realize this is unpopular, but it's popular in part due to microsoft's forced upgrades	Oct 30 12:43
cubexyz	s/popular/unpopular/	Oct 30 12:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/profBury/status/660074549485158400	Oct 30 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@profBury: #EUisus https://t.co/W3JTo2iHzy		Oct 30 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mass surveillance: EU citizens' rights still in danger, says Parliament https://t.co/Mhy6cfPr8w #espionage against all of us		Oct 30 12:44
cubexyz	schestowitz, it seems it was ad-tastic book by microsoft to promote WHS (Windows Home Server)	Oct 30 12:47
cubexyz	put it in the pile with Microsoft Bob and Encarta :)	Oct 30 12:48
schestowitz	cubexyz:	Oct 30 12:49
schestowitz	> There was a federal election in Canada last week. My morale improved	Oct 30 12:49
schestowitz	> very slightly, that Harper scumbag is out.	Oct 30 12:49
cubexyz	yes, Justin Trudeau and the liberals won a majority	Oct 30 12:49
cubexyz	I was very surpised	Oct 30 12:49
cubexyz	in opposition to Microsoft's brainwashing we have grass-roots blogs and the FSF	Oct 30 12:50
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/restricted-boots.jpg	Oct 30 12:53
cubexyz	https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/	Oct 30 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org \| Current campaigns — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Oct 30 12:55
cubexyz	The FSF has identified all the major problems	Oct 30 12:56
msb_	The FSF has _not_ identified systemd as a problem!	Oct 30 12:58
cubexyz	ok, fair point	Oct 30 12:58
msb_	As to TV, RT is well worth watching. Very accurate news and analysis.	Oct 30 12:58
msb_	Facts like these will never be mentioned on corporate TV: http://pastebin.com/4peaAbHe	Oct 30 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebin.com \| RT: Syria Civil War - Pastebin.com		Oct 30 13:04
msb_	Or corporate newspapers.	Oct 30 13:05
cubexyz	and I'm afraid to say that the FSF's advice is too vague	Oct 30 13:16
cubexyz	simply saying "use coreboot" involves a lot of work for the user	Oct 30 13:16
cubexyz	I spent a lot of time looking at coreboot and there are a lot of things coreboot doesn't do that AMI bios does do	Oct 30 13:18
msb_	And, until coreboot expands its coverage substantially, restricts users to a tiny subset of computers/mobos.	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	to put it simply, AMI BIOS does a better job of handling quirky cases	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	warm booting is handled better	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	well, best solution now is to go chromebook or chromebox	Oct 30 13:19
cubexyz	unless you want to become a BIOS guru	Oct 30 13:20
msb_	AMI are the professionals in the field of BIOS. Which doesn't guarantee that there isn't something nasty hidden in their code.	Oct 30 13:20
msb_	chromebook/box are good only if you want to settle for a slow computer.	Oct 30 13:21
cubexyz	that's not true, it's a function of $$$	Oct 30 13:22
cubexyz	I already stated there's i5 and i7 chromebooks	Oct 30 13:22
msb_	If possible, blocking control packets that operate the internal intrusion mechanisms, using a $50 homemade router, would be better.	Oct 30 13:23
msb_	How fast and how expensive are the 8-core chromebooks? (And I would never use an Intel CRT. I think it's more vulnerable than an AMD.)	Oct 30 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint History and Development	Oct 30 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source intelligence techniques and the	Oct 30 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	Dark Web https://t.co/za6yFwkUKZ	Oct 30 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 6 Vs. iOS 9: The Showdown	Oct 30 13:32
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cubexyz	chromebook pixel is top of the line ultra low voltage i5 or i7 cpu	Oct 30 13:34
cubexyz	i7-5500u cpu	Oct 30 13:34
cubexyz	2 cores, 4 threads says ask.intel.com	Oct 30 13:35
cubexyz	TDP is an amazing 15 W	Oct 30 13:35
cubexyz	goes for about $1500 US	Oct 30 13:36
cubexyz	chromebook has another advantage, it doesn't get too hot	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Foundation Scholarship Recipient: Kiran	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	Padwal https://t.co/sW13lAHT0B (www.linux.com)	Oct 30 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Element 14 to Bake Custom Raspberry Pi's	Oct 30 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Innovative Finnish mini-PC runs Linux on Tegra	Oct 30 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	K1 https://t.co/JWzzEaiG40 (linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 30 13:37
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cubexyz	at least the one I have doesn't, you can watch videos and put the chromebook in your lap	Oct 30 13:37
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msb_	i7-5500u cpu has a cpumark score of 3972. AMD FX-8350 scores 8973.	Oct 30 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google killing Chrome OS and building it into	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	Android https://t.co/MPHR2aIlWz	Oct 30 13:45
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cubexyz	125 watts TDP	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines System76 Oryx Pro is a Skylake-powered Ubuntu	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	laptop with NVIDIA GPU and G-SYNC	Oct 30 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny, rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux	Oct 30 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	on i.MX6UL https://t.co/jlIdTTLuFD	Oct 30 13:45
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cubexyz	show me a laptop that uses AMD FX-8350... I don't think there is one	Oct 30 13:45
cubexyz	it's an unfair comparison	Oct 30 13:46
msb_	But it's easy to build a desktop with it.	Oct 30 13:46
cubexyz	15 TDP watt vs 125 TDP watt	Oct 30 13:47
msb_	So what?	Oct 30 13:47
cubexyz	AND you have no BIOS source code	Oct 30 13:47
cubexyz	that's what	Oct 30 13:47
msb_	You don't want to spend 2 cents/hour	Oct 30 13:47
msb_	?	Oct 30 13:47
cubexyz	there's no laptop with FX-8350 since it would overheat for sure	Oct 30 13:48
msb_	It's an Intel cpu. It's already cracked.	Oct 30 13:48
msb_	I guess if you want it portable, you can settle for half speed. What does it cost?	Oct 30 13:49
cubexyz	it's expensive, about $1500	Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solus: Announcing 1.0 Release Candidate 1	Oct 30 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SystemRescueCd and GParted Live Now Based on	Oct 30 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	GParted 0.24.0, Detect ZFS Filesystems	Oct 30 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Mint History and Development	Oct 30 13:50
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msb_	Slow and expensive. Not what I'd want for my main computer. Also I want a lot of disk bays.	Oct 30 13:52
msb_	I don't travel much. All I'd want for a portable is a tablet for shopping lists.	Oct 30 13:53
msb_	<$100	Oct 30 13:53
msb_	Pen and paper work too.	Oct 30 13:53
cubexyz	I wouldn't buy the pixel either	Oct 30 13:55
cubexyz	just pointing out alternatives with coreboot	Oct 30 13:55
cubexyz	ha, the pirates are selling subscriptions to access bios source code	Oct 30 13:57
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cubexyz	ok, if you can find the file hpbios.rar you might be able to get more bios source code	Oct 30 14:08
cubexyz	clever, the chinese have a huge source code repository	Oct 30 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November	Oct 30 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Update to Launch on November	Oct 30 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RapidDisk / RapidCache 3.5 now available.	Oct 30 14:29
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schestowitz	"while cyanide may be silent, it is also an indiscriminate killer,	Oct 30 14:37
schestowitz	affecting other wildlife and contaminating the ecosystem. The	Oct 30 14:37
schestowitz	contamination increases with rain."	Oct 30 14:37
schestowitz	http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/27/africa/zimbabwe-elephant-poaching/	Oct 30 14:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/660104005260075008	Oct 30 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PrisonPC: How Linux plays a useful role behind	Oct 30 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	bars https://t.co/Xo0cSSIdTk (www.itwire.com)	Oct 30 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	Con Zymaris is back	Oct 30 15:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Has a Diverse Software Focused Patent	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	Portfolio https://t.co/My62H8bCJV	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	(patentvue.com) so it can attack, extort,	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	blackmail android and linux	Oct 30 15:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Chromebooks have been burning up the sales	Oct 30 15:14
TweetTuxMachines	charts on Amazon for a while now"	Oct 30 15:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity	Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	platform, says report https://t.co/SsErT8nn5l	Oct 30 15:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth & Rising	Oct 30 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	Tide for Linux Review https://t.co/DVs4RJrLhi	Oct 30 15:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where you can get a Linux laptop for super	Oct 30 15:17
TweetTuxMachines	cheap this Saturday https://t.co/hsF0w0H0oo	Oct 30 15:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @Tech_Sharer retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Where you can get a Linux laptop for...'		Oct 30 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Winners Announced! Linux Pros Show Off	Oct 30 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Knowledge in #WorldWithoutLinux Contest But One	Oct 30 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Clue Stumps Them All https://t.co/4EmTB8vfRx	Oct 30 15:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create Ubuntu Phone Apps, Develop Ubuntu	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	Core-Based Projects and Win Prizes	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make in India: Canonical looking at	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	manufacturing Ubuntu smartphones in India	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fanless 3.5-inch SBC runs Linux on dual-core	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	Bay Trail https://t.co/kMR0vmxEX6	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux Laptops https://t.co/5ZwYKivz7k	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung looking to merge Tizen with IoTivity	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	platform, says report https://t.co/KfUXI7EEe6	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where you can get a Linux laptop for super	Oct 30 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	cheap this Saturday https://t.co/HXSsibUu80	Oct 30 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Competition and Kernel	Oct 30 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/BjoiKivHKq	Oct 30 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre 2.42 eBook Reader and Converter Adds	Oct 30 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for the New NookGlowlight Plus	Oct 30 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Slackware-current got updated… 448 lines of	Oct 30 16:09
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/msgbi/status/660127533212573696	Oct 30 16:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.54 Announcement	Oct 30 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDBUS Is Being Removed From Fedora, Could Be A	Oct 30 17:22
TweetTuxMachines	While Before Being Mainlined	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/abekB6HS4Z	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/0K6UqQRjUw	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/F3EI6Qqe3z	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/ZYCQ9n6tat	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why systemd is a practical tool for sys admins	Oct 30 17:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7uEfQSiGBM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.19.1 released https://t.co/cZt22dhNNe	Oct 30 17:22
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schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36007/	Oct 30 17:44
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schestowitz	"	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	I have to admit, I'm a little confused. On one hand, Microsoft open-sources some components of the .NET framework, and on the other hand they closed-source a vital tool for some Android developers. I'm still convinced that Microsoft doesn't care about FOSS or GNU/Linux, or their communities. They're simply trying to nip a market trend in the bud... they're competing in a manner that appears collaborative at first glance.	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	I think it's time we took a moment to re-evaluate how we look at corporate entities that offer open-source software, and if they are susceptible to buyouts, whether their projects are viable for the community to invest precious time and effort into. RoboVM would never have been such a huge loss if it had forked from the very beginning and managed by a non-corporate entity. We've already decided not to trust MySQL any more because of what	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	Oracle has done to it. Why should we not apply this same decision to several other company-offered projects?	Oct 30 17:44
schestowitz	"	Oct 30 17:44
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6761342	Oct 30 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Indonesia is burning. So why is the world looking away? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/30/indonesia-fires-disaster-21st-century-world-mediav article by Monbiot		Oct 30 17:58
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schestowitz	"Business as usual? Indonesia too far? Nobody cares for environment?"	Oct 30 17:58
cubexyz	if you're worried about MySQL is not MariaDB an acceptable replacement?	Oct 30 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release	Oct 30 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/UOFTv3IBr9	Oct 30 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines More Leftovers: Software	Oct 30 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/Q5U70fcSBN	Oct 30 20:13
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cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt	Oct 30 21:01
cubexyz	see what you're missing? :)	Oct 30 21:01
schestowitz	>They never wanted to provide the world with free software, they wanted the world to provide them with free development.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	I rather think the contrary : you can't pay your rent with an open source business model. I know, Red Hat is an exception. But just look at Canonical, it's still not profitable, though it's the most popular Linux distro. Now think about tiny companies, they don't have a least chance to survive if they go open and free. Your good faith WILL be abused if you have anything valuable.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36007/	Oct 30 21:04
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schestowitz	"	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	That's beside the point though, it appears RoboVM was always a commercial vendor.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	Creating something of value and watching people use it, even make money from it, is part and parcel of free software.	Oct 30 21:04
schestowitz	"	Oct 30 21:04
cubexyz	what about OpenBSD?	Oct 30 21:05
cubexyz	20 years and still going	Oct 30 21:05
cubexyz	ok, 19 years	Oct 30 21:05
schestowitz	19	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	or 20?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	I think 20	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	just weeks ago, maybe 1.5 weeks ago	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	18th?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	of oct?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	(from memory)	Oct 30 21:08
cubexyz	19 years as of Oct 18th 2015, yes	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	[17:59] <cubexyz> if you're worried about MySQL is not MariaDB an acceptable replacement?	Oct 30 21:08
schestowitz	Never worked for a client with mariadb installed	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	they use vanilla mysql	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	but maybe oracle will go more rogue	Oct 30 21:09
cubexyz	sorry, correction...	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	or maybe - just maybe - mariadb's existence prevents mysql from going rogue under oracle	Oct 30 21:09
cubexyz	Oct 1st, 1996 was the original release	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	there ought to be another date	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	maybe older version	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	pre 1.0	Oct 30 21:09
cubexyz	Oct 18th, 2015 was the release date for 5.8	Oct 30 21:09
schestowitz	yes, but that was also an anniversary	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	20 years of... something	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	linux too has mutiple important dates	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	like 1.0 release, linux mailing list message	Oct 30 21:10
cubexyz	the source tree is 20 years old :)	Oct 30 21:10
schestowitz	then there's owen leblanc, my former colleague, who was the first to combine gnu and linux	Oct 30 21:10
cubexyz	I can't remember the beginning	Oct 30 21:10
cubexyz	20 years of cvs	Oct 30 21:11
cubexyz	ok, now I'm wondering what GNU started on :)	Oct 30 21:12
cubexyz	since it predates linux	Oct 30 21:12
schestowitz	1983 i think	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	but I think it started with gnu	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	but beforehand emacs	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	which became gnu	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	and later there was the gpl	Oct 30 21:13
schestowitz	probably came after the gnu/free software manifesto, with help from lawyers	Oct 30 21:13
cubexyz	if you get a chance ask Stallman what he wrote GNU on in the early days	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	I did an interview with RMS about it	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	he told me	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	wait, I'll get the video	Oct 30 21:14
schestowitz	stallman interview techrights http://techrights.org/2014/12/30/stallman-interviews-summary/	Oct 30 21:14
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schestowitz	first two under "2014, Lincoln"	Oct 30 21:15
schestowitz	Those are the relevant ones	Oct 30 21:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/rossahall/status/660202004590010369	Oct 30 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rossahall: @fth_nix @schestowitz Yeah, but if you can't read the words through the envelope you hit the kettle and steam the bugger open		Oct 30 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chrome OS is not dead, insists Google veep in	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	charge of Chrome OS https://t.co/mDFHS4AJ62	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	"Easily The Worst" They've Spun	Oct 30 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0vrEE7lUGS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sabayon 15.11 https://t.co/rXgQBy2yBs	Oct 30 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Snapcraft Snappy Creator Tool for Ubuntu Snappy	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	Core Gets Closer to ROS https://t.co/zhXWNpcfAN	Oct 30 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/a65COQOgpT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream!	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9dPj4t1cGn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 30 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@jfoxdev @tuxmachines Speak not of #2 for it only gives	Oct 30 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	it power!	Oct 30 21:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/metacode/status/660209372275023872	Oct 30 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@metacode: No Such Thing As A Free Gift: The Gates Foundation & The Price Of Philanthropy https://t.co/JvGrSoEm8Y EPUB by Lin. McGoey (cc @schestowitz)		Oct 30 22:17
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XFaCE	MinceR: schestowitz from edX:	Oct 30 22:37
XFaCE	"Bill and Melinda Gates have helped transform global health in the developing world, but they know that achieving success requires working through unique challenges. Get prepped to do your part, with Boston University's primer on global health."	Oct 30 22:37
MinceR	yecch	Oct 30 22:40
MinceR	they're transforming it all right	Oct 30 22:40
MinceR	into ruins	Oct 30 22:40
schestowitz	XFaCE: they pay edC	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	edX	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	partners of theirs, check history	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	fawning for $	Oct 30 22:59
schestowitz	Anyway, unless there's some serious scandal or new misconduct regarding B&M F* I don't want to spend much time on it, it has become a bit repetitive and not a top priority at the moment (EPO and software patents are)	Oct 30 23:00
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XFaCE	schestowitz: the EPO coverage is amazing	Oct 30 23:24
schestowitz	http://i.imgur.com/rX7JHKR.gifv	Oct 31 00:06
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schestowitz	XFaCE: thanks, takes much effort	Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	and health toll, they bully me	Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	See tagging at top to help organise for journalists to follow and catch up: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO	Oct 31 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| EPO - Techrights		Oct 31 00:07
schestowitz	I made it a table to make scrolling less needed and cluster together similar themes, too	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	work in progress	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	2 more articles on their way tomorrow	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	XFaCE: and congrats on voting out Bush... I mean, Harper	Oct 31 00:08
schestowitz	reply from me (at work):	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	nmap installed on a server controlled by its right owner is like a kitchen knife in a chef's kitchen. If someone was to break into the server, he or she could install nmap anyway (with wget or apt-get or whatever), so the very existence of it on the server is probably not an issue. It contacts the outside world, but AFAIK it does not invite access from the outside world, not even with buffer overflows (unless the server makes it remotely	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	executable).	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	Maybe some detection tools don't like nmap because the media characterises it as a "hacking" (they mean cracking) tool, hence its very existence of it on a server may be indicative of present or past intrusion/s. In some countries the "possession" of such a "cyber weapon" (in US they try to classify it "munition", but EFF said they failed about 2 days ago) is an offence, and this was nearly the case in the UK and Germany around 2006.	Oct 31 00:42
schestowitz	Probably safe to remove it from a cache server. It's unlikely anything on such a server would need to port-scan.	Oct 31 00:42
XFaCE	[20:07:21]<schestowitz> just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 01:10
XFaCE	where do you get those meme photos?	Oct 31 01:11
XFaCE	the epo head in a tank :P	Oct 31 01:11
XFaCE	apt	Oct 31 01:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@jfoxdev @tuxmachines And #5 is more reassuring than	Oct 31 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	scary to a control freak	Oct 31 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PulseAudio 7.1 is out https://t.co/d2r1vbWFwv	Oct 31 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	(arunraghavan.net)	Oct 31 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sabayon 15.11 https://t.co/XG0kJHuHL1	Oct 31 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora KDE Takes A Blow; Fedora 23 KDE Spin Is	Oct 31 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	"Easily The Worst" They've Spun	Oct 31 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/flQ3i9ED8v (www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch’s latest insane adventure: Installing	Oct 31 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/QdnEivV1eA (arstechnica.com)	Oct 31 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BackBox Takes Its Security Tools Seriously	Oct 31 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VCofdpYPZt (www.linuxinsider.com)	Oct 31 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Linux Frights Sure to Make You Scream!	Oct 31 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iTQfSIkAL3 (www.linux.com)	Oct 31 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA	Oct 31 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First	Oct 31 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	Milestone Available for Download Now	Oct 31 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Neo4j Launches Open Source Graph Query Language	Oct 31 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	openCypher https://t.co/DzMsQG2NmM	Oct 31 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon,	Oct 31 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	Cinnamon 2.8.2 Available for Download	Oct 31 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Core Gets Closer to ROS	Oct 31 09:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "While the software was designed to be run on	Oct 31 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	an Intel NUC using Linux"	Oct 31 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	Satellite Entities Like Cyanogen, Patent	Oct 31 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 Is Now Cleared For Release	Oct 31 10:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2016 Will be the Year of Android Auto	Oct 31 10:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft's Poaching Efforts (Against	Oct 31 10:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android is Being Disrupted by Microsoft and Its...'		Oct 31 10:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft's Poaching Efforts (Against GNU/Linux) Advance, Don't Fall...'		Oct 31 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android device updates: Google posts	Oct 31 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	Marshmallow factory images for Nexus 6P and 5X	Oct 31 11:30
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cubexyz	chromebooks/boxes have multiple advantages	Oct 31 12:13
cubexyz	#1: Microsoft gets no money from a chromebook sale	Oct 31 12:14
*Pinguinpat (~chatzilla@2a02:1812:2c35:1900:30:d122:8513:1376) has joined #techrights		Oct 31 12:14
cubexyz	#2: You can download the BIOS source code	Oct 31 12:14
cubexyz	#3: some of the chromebooks run are extremely energy efficient	Oct 31 12:14
cubexyz	s/run//	Oct 31 12:15
cubexyz	come on brain :-/	Oct 31 12:15
cubexyz	coreboot will help you for no money	Oct 31 12:16
cubexyz	AMI will not acknowledge you exist without a lot of $$$	Oct 31 12:17
Pinguinpat	Something on the word "sloeber" in this context it actuality means a opportunist who gets away with things. But make no mistake: a few seconds later the right person calls Battistelli a horrible manipulative bastard with blood on his hand being responsible for the suicide of 5 employees.	Oct 31 12:28
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msb_	cubexyz: Would you please explain the relationship between framebuffer and X? This doc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt says "the X server works completely on /dev/fb*" but when I run fbset it says the resolution is "800x600-75" but xrandr says it's 1920 x 1080, which is the native resolution of my monitor. Does X run on top of FB, or do things work a different way?	Oct 31 13:08
msb_	I apologize for my ignorance of something so fundamental. I'm so ashamed!	Oct 31 13:10
cubexyz	think of the framerbuffer as a memory mapped device	Oct 31 13:10
cubexyz	ok, sometimes X has control, sometimes the framebuffer is in control	Oct 31 13:12
cubexyz	in any case, there is a graphics mode set	Oct 31 13:12
cubexyz	in Linux you can load a LKM to control the framebuffer	Oct 31 13:13
cubexyz	if not, then the kernel controls a simple text console	Oct 31 13:14
msb_	which you get from e.g. ctrl-alt-F3, right?	Oct 31 13:14
cubexyz	so when you do ctrl-alt-f1 you pass control to the text console or somethingfb	Oct 31 13:14
cubexyz	somethingfb can be a lot of different things	Oct 31 13:15
cubexyz	in the olden days there was vga16fb	Oct 31 13:15
msb_	ok but the doc seems to say the FB is running underneath X, and X is utilizing the FB	Oct 31 13:15
cubexyz	no, you can run a framebuffer without using X	Oct 31 13:17
cubexyz	let's say you wanted to look at some jpegs, but X wasn't available	Oct 31 13:17
msb_	I understand that, but when X is running, is it doing its work via the FB?	Oct 31 13:17
cubexyz	you could still load vga16fb or radeonfb or somethingfb and look at jpegs	Oct 31 13:17
cubexyz	nope :)	Oct 31 13:18
cubexyz	you can also run X and the simple kernel text console, without any graphics capability	Oct 31 13:18
msb_	So this quote is wrong? "the X server works completely on /dev/fb*"	Oct 31 13:18
cubexyz	run lsof and see if /dev/fb* is open	Oct 31 13:19
cubexyz	I'm sure it isn't	Oct 31 13:19
cubexyz	maybe that was true a long time ago, I'm not sure	Oct 31 13:19
cubexyz	try: lsof \| grep dev	Oct 31 13:20
cubexyz	or lsof \| grep /dev/fb	Oct 31 13:20
cubexyz	it won't match anything	Oct 31 13:20
msb_	lsof \| grep -i dev/fb doesn't match anything.	Oct 31 13:21
cubexyz	some of the linux documentation could be really out of date	Oct 31 13:21
cubexyz	right, that's as expected	Oct 31 13:22
cubexyz	you can run a framebuffer without X, and you can run X without a framebuffer	Oct 31 13:22
msb_	So now X accesses the graphic card or chip directly?	Oct 31 13:22
cubexyz	no	Oct 31 13:23
msb_	not thru the FB?	Oct 31 13:23
cubexyz	not directly... it uses radeon.ko or some device driver	Oct 31 13:23
cubexyz	depending on your hardware of course	Oct 31 13:23
cubexyz	if you do a lsmod you could be able to see if you have a framebuffer module loaded	Oct 31 13:25
msb_	nothing with fb or fram	Oct 31 13:26
cubexyz	if so you could do stuff like: fbset 800x600-80 to set the text console video mode	Oct 31 13:26
cubexyz	ok, then you are using the kernel text console	Oct 31 13:26
msb_	so when using the text console, X is suspended, and vice versa.	Oct 31 13:26
cubexyz	X loses control of the video stuff at that point, it's still running of course	Oct 31 13:27
msb_	that's why the fb resolution is different from the X resolution	Oct 31 13:27
cubexyz	right :)	Oct 31 13:27
cubexyz	strictly speaking the text console isn't really text mode	Oct 31 13:28
msb_	Great! Thanks!	Oct 31 13:28
cubexyz	it's usually set to 640x480 and 80x25 characters	Oct 31 13:28
msb_	mine is 800x600	Oct 31 13:28
cubexyz	you can even watch movies on the framebuffer	Oct 31 13:29
cubexyz	it's slower though	Oct 31 13:29
cubexyz	fbset 640x480-80 would be 640x480 resolution with 80 hz refresh rate	Oct 31 13:29
msb_	so using fb I could port over all my old graphics programs from pcdos, because it would be just like writing to the memory-mapped graphic card I used to have	Oct 31 13:32
msb_	If I set the rez and mode right.	Oct 31 13:33
cubexyz	most kernels use the generic VESA framebuffer driver	Oct 31 13:34
cubexyz	so you would be limited to VESA modes	Oct 31 13:34
cubexyz	I would probably just use freedos or rewrite your programs for X11	Oct 31 13:35
cubexyz	merely a suggestion	Oct 31 13:35
cubexyz	of course there's dosbox and xdosemu and you could just run stuff that way	Oct 31 13:36
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cubexyz	I have a quick-c setup for writing dos programs still and it runs fine under dosbox	Oct 31 13:37
cubexyz	but with freedos your programs would run at super speed :)	Oct 31 13:37
msb_	can't I load a kernel module to enable fb to work at 1920x1080, the rez of my screen?	Oct 31 13:38
cubexyz	yes, you should be able to do that	Oct 31 13:39
msb_	what would it be called?	Oct 31 13:39
cubexyz	look at man fbset	Oct 31 13:40
cubexyz	you would need to load some LKM as well	Oct 31 13:40
cubexyz	the fbset docs might be really out of date	Oct 31 13:41
cubexyz	ls	Oct 31 13:42
msb_	LKM = loadable kernel module ?	Oct 31 13:42
cubexyz	yes	Oct 31 13:42
cubexyz	try locate vga16fb and then cd to that directory	Oct 31 13:43
cubexyz	/lib/modules/some-version-of-kernel/kernel/drivers/video	Oct 31 13:43
cubexyz	you should see a bunch of ko files	Oct 31 13:44
cubexyz	it could be in a subdirectory	Oct 31 13:46
msb_	ah yes, nvidia/nvidiafb.ko	Oct 31 13:47
msb_	Do you switch between text and graphic mode on the fb, or is there a separate text input channel which just enters text at the bottom and scrolls up?	Oct 31 13:49
cubexyz	ok, not sure what you mean but the chvt command can change to any terminal	Oct 31 13:53
cubexyz	you can ctrl-alt-2 and login and then you have a text (possibly framebuffer)	Oct 31 13:54
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cubexyz	it's really always graphical though	Oct 31 13:55
cubexyz	in the old days there was MDA which was true text mode	Oct 31 13:55
cubexyz	once you have the LKM loaded and you're logged in to another terminal you can do: fbset --info	Oct 31 13:56
cubexyz	that will give you more info	Oct 31 13:56
cubexyz	if things don't line up well you can pan around with: fbset -move left or right as needed	Oct 31 13:58
cubexyz	I think once you do run somethingfb it does open /dev/fb0 or something like that	Oct 31 14:01
cubexyz	I should warn you... it's quite possible to bork up the framebuffer	Oct 31 14:02
cubexyz	you might want to set up a separate machine just to play around with the framebuffer	Oct 31 14:02
cubexyz	technically I don't think the framebuffer module opens /dev/fb0 until you run something that needs it	Oct 31 14:03
cubexyz	you can even run the framebuffer in init 1	Oct 31 14:09
cubexyz	proof positive that the framebuffer module doesn't need X to work and doesn't "run under" X	Oct 31 14:10
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msb_	cubexyz: Many thanks! I will save this dialog for possible future fb usage. I think I will first try putting up graphics in X using qt or qt-ruby or whatever, so my programs don't have to take up the entire screen.	Oct 31 14:22
msb_	And no chance of borking things up. Only have the one machine.	Oct 31 14:23
cubexyz	it's better to learn X11 I'd say	Oct 31 14:27
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cubexyz	there could be an advantage to running the a machine with a framebuffer without X	Oct 31 14:28
cubexyz	one could optimize a machine for just video playback	Oct 31 14:28
cubexyz	X is more versatile though	Oct 31 14:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/660464416778002432	Oct 31 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: but is unable to articulate a single specific problem that lack of #SafeHarbour will cause other than inconvenience https://t.co/BlkBZYwvJI		Oct 31 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A think tank from the US wants #europe to "compromise" on #privacy https://t.co/PtPU6nrG7n		Oct 31 14:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660465702525116416	Oct 31 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: Sorry for being dense, but your paranoia is showing. What is "clear"? https://t.co/LfrUoKYQgI		Oct 31 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: See the #epo "ADMINISTRATIVE COUNCIL" sections https://t.co/DT6QJiuhDI clearly covering up abuse https://t.co/CMIUWvePoB		Oct 31 14:39
schestowitz	AC has not been doing anything to question the EPO's abuses, e.g. ignoring court orders	Oct 31 14:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/postys/6764699	Oct 31 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://joindiaspora.com/postys/6764699 )		Oct 31 14:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6764699	Oct 31 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Law Enforcement: Traveling From Anywhere To Anywhere Is Suspicious Behavior https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151030/07031932676/law-enforcement-traveling-anywhere-to-anywhere-is-suspicious-behavior.shtml don't carry tracking device, aka "mobile"		Oct 31 14:49
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Bgf1065/status/660471569899200512	Oct 31 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bgf1065: @schestowitz Thoughts are with the families right now..!! RIP To all who lost their lives..!!		Oct 31 15:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Rebastion/status/660474018944983040	Oct 31 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Rebastion: But our own spies are fine? https://t.co/oZnUXi8bMR		Oct 31 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Schools given warning after 'Safe Harbour' ruling https://t.co/OoaxS6hFhC and rightly so, stop selling our data to foreign spies		Oct 31 15:12
schestowitz	Small British companies aren't (yet at least) compelled to hand over data to #gchq - no British #cisa	Oct 31 15:14
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/660489619574808578	Oct 31 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz #nsa magazine ("Signal") says NSA needs every multi-billion company to make the NSA more powerful https://t.co/L8VDynjKjD		Oct 31 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz That's not "stigma", it's stereotype. :)		Oct 31 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/660490226771566593	Oct 31 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: #cybercyber stockstock infotainment junk https://t.co/FAvOh9dUSF		Oct 31 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Did you know that "hackers" work with green screens and Matrix-inspired themes? Here's the stigma perpetuated: https://t.co/s0R6a0TjBY		Oct 31 16:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660492225411997696	Oct 31 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: How do you know? https://t.co/XgwDs8xC5E		Oct 31 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @BoffJim AC has not been doing anything to question the EPO's abuses, e.g. ignoring court orders		Oct 31 16:24
schestowitz	I have been following this closely and writing about it	Oct 31 16:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/BoffJim/status/660496377710059520	Oct 31 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BoffJim: I'd noticed. https://t.co/CQ3kNsMnJp		Oct 31 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @BoffJim I have been following this closely and writing about it		Oct 31 16:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.2 Ubuntu 15.10 HDD Tests: XFS Leads	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	Over EXT4, Btrfs https://t.co/zhnNzB5hnm	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.2 Ubuntu 15.10 HDD Tests: XFS Leads Over EXT4, Btrfs \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solu is an adorable Linux PC that fits in your	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	pocket, but at a cost https://t.co/SOvhpTI8ed	Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Oct 31 17:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Solu Is a Pocket-Sized Touchscreen Linux PC \| Digital Trends		Oct 31 17:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA	Oct 31 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	Versions in System Settings	Oct 31 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Xh25GOtvTO (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions in System Settings - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Milestone Available for Download Now	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lHI3p8AlKD (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available for Download Now - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pPfOIEJ6hE (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory Integration, S.M.A.R.T. Monitoring - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon,	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	Cinnamon 2.8.2 Available for Download	Oct 31 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DvyU46Goe2 (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Importance of Open Source in Root	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rIGMWkbDBW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Importance of Open Source in Root \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Builder IDE Is Working On Some Big	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	Improvements https://t.co/0pPEqm90GB	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Oct 31 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| GNOME's Builder IDE Is Working On Some Big Improvements - Phoronix		Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.2 Ubuntu 15.10 HDD Tests: XFS Leads	Oct 31 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	Over EXT4, Btrfs https://t.co/O3BTpwaEe9	Oct 31 17:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/660507663428489217	Oct 31 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Can anyone provide a link to the actual TEXT of the 29 Oct 2015 resolution itself? Your links lead to Press Release. https://t.co/VayFGRzASS		Oct 31 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #europe "resolution is unlikely to help @Snowden anytime soon. " https://t.co/LmWhVyjkMZ too much pressure on polticians		Oct 31 17:25
schestowitz	It's somewhere in my daily links..	Oct 31 17:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Twitch_Life/status/660507822342463488	Oct 31 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twitch_Life: does https://t.co/oLp0HqXUhn		Oct 31 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Twitch does #linux https://t.co/DM6tv8v779 https://t.co/JGN5Z9QrAw https://t.co/plkuMkHSWN https://t.co/nJP0QEL5pq https://t.co/wBD7oM3T4Y		Oct 31 17:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/msgbi/status/660507977120669696	Oct 31 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@msgbi: @schestowitz @TeraEuro go		Oct 31 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu	Oct 31 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS Daily Builds Out Now	Oct 31 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Wb2OMdAwQ8 (news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Daily Builds Out Now - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pinguy Builder Review - Build Your Own Ubuntu	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	OS https://t.co/TyLZJet0eN (www.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softpedia.com \| Pinguy Builder Review - Build Your Own Ubuntu OS - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch does linux https://t.co/VVew2p3Wcm	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com) https://t.co/sRcfNNw2SE	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.destructoid.com) https://t.co/3vQhG27fys	Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Twitch is Trying to Install Arch Linux \| Digital Trends		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(hackaday.com) https://t.co/xLccEQW6XM	Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.destructoid.com \| Twitch users will attempt to install Linux together		Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(thenextweb.com) https://t.co/k3KIAAin5V	Oct 31 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com \| Delightfully Horrible Idea: Twitch Installs Linux \| Hackaday		Oct 31 17:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| Twitch's next live community challenge: install Arch Linux		Oct 31 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Twitch Users Prepare for the Biggest Collaborative Arch Linux Installation Ever - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/660510156321492992	Oct 31 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (i set a RECORD 4 wasted time yesterday searching for it on Web at in the opaque/obfuscatory E.Parliament official site.)		Oct 31 17:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Most Beginner Friendly Linux Distributions	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KRfwiQ4eux (www.insidermonkey.com)	Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insidermonkey.com \| 5 Most Beginner Friendly Linux Distributions - Insider Monkey		Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: Day of the Devs Arrives	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	with Six Linux Games	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5LltLpjfFF (linux.softpedia.com)	Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Humble Weekly Bundle: Day of the Devs Arrives with Six Linux Games - Softpedia		Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fanless Pico-ITXe SBC runs Linux on quad-core	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	Eden X4 https://t.co/X0BbCh0sIs	Oct 31 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Fanless Pico-ITXe SBC runs Linux on quad-core Eden X4 · LinuxGizmos.com		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-8 Will Finally Display OTA Versions...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.20 Development Has Started, First Milestone Available...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Rockstor 3.8-9 NAS Solution Has Better Active Directory...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8 to Be Officially Unveiled Soon, Cinnamon...'		Oct 31 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'UbuCon Summit 2016 Preparations Begin, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS...'		Oct 31 17:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Twitch is Trying to Install Arch Linux \| Digital Trends		Oct 31 17:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Humble Weekly Bundle: Day of the Devs Arrives...'		Oct 31 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Twitch does Linux https://t.co/m0sxneQkab	Oct 31 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 19:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Twitch does Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 19:20
schestowitz	[12:28] <Pinguinpat> Something on the word "sloeber" in this context it actuality means a opportunist who gets away with things. But make no mistake: a few seconds later the right person calls Battistelli a horrible manipulative bastard with blood on his hand being responsible for the suicide of 5 employees.	Oct 31 19:22
schestowitz	Ah	Oct 31 19:22
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schestowitz	[01:10] <XFaCE> [20:07:21]<schestowitz> just redone the wiki with new format	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	[01:11] <XFaCE> where do you get those meme photos?	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	[01:11] <XFaCE> the epo head in a tank :P	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	It's a Soviet tank launcher	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	I got it free on stock exchange, an Hungarian site	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	had to use GIMP	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	[19:23] <schestowitz> It's a Soviet tank launcher	Oct 31 19:23
schestowitz	I meant scud launcher	Oct 31 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@OpenTechSource Latest from the source, The Open Source Daily	Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	is out! https://t.co/3kRGAffI5N (paper.li)	Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	#OpenSource Articles via @TheBitCoinForum	Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines	Oct 31 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li \| The Open Source Daily		Oct 31 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's	Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by What's New https://t.co/myVcKmwDu8	Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 31 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| openSUSE Leap 42.1 Launches November 4, Here's What's New \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 a GO, KDE Not So Much	Oct 31 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 23 a GO, KDE Not So Much \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU Hurd 0.7 & GNU Mach 1.6 Released	Oct 31 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU Hurd 0.7 & GNU Mach 1.6 Released \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 23 packages now live	Oct 31 23:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 23 packages now live \| Tux Machines		Oct 31 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Devices https://t.co/osF9J58Akv	Oct 31 23:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/eY5X0SBjoi	Oct 31 23:42
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