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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mesa 11.2 Still Isn't Ready | Mar 27 00:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mesa 11.2 Still Isn't Ready - Phoronix | Mar 27 00:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BUS1 Documentation Published As The New | Mar 27 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alternative To KDBUS https://t.co/kzPVdpUt9Z | Mar 27 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 27 00:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | BUS1 Documentation Published As The New Alternative To KDBUS - Phoronix | Mar 27 00:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of | Mar 27 00:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Vista 10 the Same Way It Did About Vista | Mar 27 00:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/m64IqlWy2x (error) | Mar 27 00:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @hugolsqrn favourited 'Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of Vista...' | Mar 27 00:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of Vista 10 the Same Way It Did About Vista | Techrights | Mar 27 00:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Rick4312 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of Vista...' | Mar 27 00:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @zesty_vidgames followed @tuxmachines | Mar 27 00:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459027972369#c1331405569163354807\ | Mar 27 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times | Mar 27 00:24 | |
| schestowitz | "We are just EPO statistics, created to consume resources and in doing so we produce unreliable facts from reliable figures, because facts are stubborn and statistics are more pliable. Basically the greatest moments are those when you see the result pop up in a graph or in your statistics analysis - that moment you realise you know something no one else does about the EPO’s heartbeat and you get the pleasure of thinking about how to | Mar 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | deceive them." | Mar 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | To put it once more mildly, Max Drei has discredited himself thoroughly. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Provocation is not what make things move forward. I rather brings in resistance. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | If Max Drei feels happy in behaving like this, than let him wallow in his self satisfaction. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | I am not sure that I would like to see my company be represented by such a "professional" representative. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Experience also shows that those who are the most vociferous are not necessarily those who get the most respect, simply because they show a total disrespect for other people's opinions. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | You made it perfectly clear, that the only thing you want is a search. Fair enough, but that is not just what makes up the patent system. Have you ever thought of this? If society at large think that is what is needed, then let it be. But before a clear debate should take place. Then I would go as far as to say, that unless there is any kind of litigation, why even bother about drafting claims. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | That reminds me of an old litigation lawyer who repeatedly said that the patent proprietor discovers the scope of his patent, the day he goes to court. Is this really what you want and advocate? | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | For instance, I do not think that a search is what is needed by SMEs. They want and need a thorough search and examination, so that they can be confident to keep an edge over competitors, but also that they are not confronted with unduly broad claims which could at a glance endanger their existence. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | But do you really think that by increasing production and productivity at the rate requested by the top management of EPO, quality, be it for search and examination, will really improve? | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | If you think that, you are not only stupid but as well naive. Another reason not to hire you. | Mar 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Unless I am attacked again by Max Drei, I will not say anything more. I think the point of views are quite clear, and dwelling on the topic will not bring matters forward. | Mar 27 00:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Rcpp has become the most popular way of | Mar 27 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | enhancing GNU R with C or C++ code." | Mar 27 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/caiEeePvaW (dirk.eddelbuettel.com) | Mar 27 00:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Mar 27 00:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 | Mar 27 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Build https://t.co/YyHlH43Qyn | Mar 27 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/ftzd8Mkvr5 | Mar 27 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/Hfvsauh1MS | Mar 27 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Mar 27 00:39 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Mar 27 00:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.6-rc1 | Mar 27 00:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MKVToolNix 9.0.0 Open-Source MKV Manipulation Tool Released with...' | Mar 27 00:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC...' | Mar 27 00:44 | |
| amarsh04 | yes, and I still have to use an out-of-tree patch to use the eata kernel module for DPT SCSI hardware 4.6.0-rc1+ #285 SMP PREEMPT | Mar 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | for 4.6? | Mar 27 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/713999676190638080 | Mar 27 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Largest staff union #SUEPO of the European Patent Office #EPO refactored their RSS feed of public pages. Finally. https://t.co/8QMlQRtHKZ | Mar 27 04:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: At long last #suepo changes site design and adds RSS feed https://t.co/wjSHePInPY #epo https://t.co/PVK5ds4eUF | Mar 27 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 | Mar 27 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Mar 27 04:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Tux Machines | Mar 27 04:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OrangeFS Lands In Linux 4.6 Kernel | Mar 27 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FqijLTPAQS (www.phoronix.com) more | Mar 27 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new featrtures https://t.co/eSX8zM2Mms | Mar 27 04:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OrangeFS Lands In Linux 4.6 Kernel - Phoronix | Mar 27 04:13 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6 Set To Bring A Significant Number Of New Features - Phoronix | Mar 27 04:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz in Datacentres https://t.co/3crW7NK7z8 | Mar 27 04:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 04:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux in Datacentres | Techrights | Mar 27 04:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 05:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 05:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @retroDoomer in Datacentres https://t.co/3crW7NK7z8 | Mar 27 05:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 05:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @pinguinpatje retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft Wants to...' | Mar 27 05:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MKVToolNix 9.0.0 Open-Source MKV Manipulation Tool Released with...' | Mar 27 06:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/charlesb430/status/714048194557165568 | Mar 27 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@charlesb430: via @schestowitz We've Barely Begun to Tap the Sun’s Mighty Power https://t.co/Esyrm7oIJv #energy | Mar 27 07:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | We've Barely Begun to Tap the Sun’s Mighty Power | Mother Jones | Mar 27 07:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines redhat upgraded https://t.co/bJyrWIaMnw | Mar 27 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.markets.co) | Mar 27 07:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.markets.co | Red Hat Receives a Buy from Barclays - Markets.co | Mar 27 07:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines notepadqq – Notepad++ for Ubuntu Linux | Mar 27 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uI6MsvfnzA (www.linuxtechi.com) | Mar 27 07:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com | Notepadqq - Notepad++ For Ubuntu Linux | Mar 27 07:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build 20160326 Screenshot | Mar 27 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tour https://t.co/fb6nlN3TS5 | Mar 27 07:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxscreenshots.org) | Mar 27 07:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build 20160326 Screenshot Tour | Mar 27 07:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/714052629077368832 | Mar 27 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: re post-#US #Emancipation 1863 #Confederate plantation owners used #Vagrancy laws & #PrivatePrisons 4 cheap labour. https://t.co/SSMiTBbA6p | Mar 27 07:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With Nuisance Laws, Has ‘Serve and Protect’ Turned Into ‘Silence and Evict’? https://t.co/szsb1DXCQ2 #police #socialControl | Mar 27 07:37 | |
| schestowitz | " futurist Robert Scoble " | Mar 27 07:45 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 27 07:45 |
| schestowitz | Futirust | Mar 27 07:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.datamation.com/events/virtual-reality-vs.-augmented-reality-robert-scoble.html | Mar 27 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Virtual Reality vs. Augmented Reality: Robert Scoble - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/oopj8 ] | Mar 27 07:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introduction to KDE Muon Discover, The Kubuntu | Mar 27 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Center | Mar 27 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jWETwnqaUj (www.ubuntubuzz.com) | Mar 27 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Introduction to KDE Muon Discover, The Kubuntu Software Center | Mar 27 08:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu Edition tablet will be available for | Mar 27 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pre-order on Monday, March 28" | Mar 27 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yAVO5Gd9aH (www.webupd8.org) | Mar 27 08:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Available To Pre-Order On Monday ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Mar 27 08:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 (Linux Based Router OS) Has Been | Mar 27 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/LAHLiu7hnA (linuxg.net) | Mar 27 08:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | OpenWrt 15.05 (Linux Based Router OS) Has Been Released | LinuxG.net | Mar 27 08:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/714067543556759552 | Mar 27 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: .@schestowitz could it be "torified"? If not it is just another #NSA tool. | Mar 27 08:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8491 | Mar 27 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Guix - News: GNOME in GuixSD [Savannah] | Mar 27 08:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dedoimedo on Fedora: https://t.co/C0LHObahRO | Mar 27 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 08:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dedoimedo on Fedora: | Tux Machines | Mar 27 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Real Computer vs Virtual Computer Performance | Mar 27 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Showdown | Mar 27 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Q6o7VcTCo2 (www.youtube.com) | Mar 27 08:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Real Computer vs Virtual Computer Performance Showdown - YouTube | Mar 27 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sidewalk man must love debian | Mar 27 08:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wzxA8cXd8U (imgur.com) | Mar 27 08:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Sidewalk man must love debian - Imgur | Mar 27 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmpy_awake/status/714070294126833664 | Mar 27 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmpy_awake: #Japan just replaced their Java applet for tax filing with an ActiveX one… 2016 yet ActiveX… #Microsoft https://t.co/OdvTCIR51T | Mar 27 08:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #japan chooses to be prisoner of #microsoft https://t.co/YUZWBbRMDP like #korea before that. Microsoft still hates the Web. | Mar 27 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/9X43BaV.jpg | Mar 27 08:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7179029 | Mar 27 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 27 09:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Twitter, Tumbler, and Facebook should be banned from D* - they already exist everywhere else. Some of us enjoy having a place to go where those things - aren't." | Mar 27 09:07 |
| cubexyz | that's stupid... requiring activex for tax filing | Mar 27 09:08 |
| cubexyz | I've been using ufile through firefox on linux for the last few years (in Canada) | Mar 27 09:09 |
| cubexyz | on the other hand, there's Plamo Linux which is a Japanese slackware distribution | Mar 27 09:13 |
| cubexyz | I try to fixate on the positive | Mar 27 09:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/donkeredagen/status/714078017086234624 | Mar 27 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@donkeredagen: @schestowitz @glynmoody Recent poll shows 25% Dutch dont mind. #flabbergasted. https://t.co/wCdOuVJA4z | Mar 27 09:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@donkeredagen: @schestowitz @glynmoody Recent poll shows 25% Dutch dont mind. #flabbergasted. https://t.co/wCdOuVJA4z | Mar 27 09:14 | |
| cubexyz | I am a bit surprised to hear that Japan is still windows-centric | Mar 27 09:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-windows-7-does-not-rock.jpg | Mar 27 09:24 |
| schestowitz | https://mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html | Mar 27 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mako.cc | To Fork or Not To Fork: Lessons From Ubuntu and Debian :: Benjamin Mako Hill [ http://ur1.ca/oopsz ] | Mar 27 09:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bhrme/debian_project_leader_elections_2016_why_only_one/ https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_001 | Mar 27 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian Project Leader Elections 2016 - why only one candidate this year? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oopt5 ] | Mar 27 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_001 ) | Mar 27 09:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 2016 Debian Project Leader election | Mar 27 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sSf5pywmCf (lwn.net) | Mar 27 09:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | The 2016 Debian Project Leader election [LWN.net] | Mar 27 09:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Mar 27 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZH0OrSNgH2 (www.networkworld.com) | Mar 27 09:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Network World | Mar 27 09:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Tablet Will Be Available To Pre-Order On | Mar 27 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Monday https://t.co/MjkrxT6KWK | Mar 27 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Mar 27 09:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Tablet Will Be Available To Pre-Order On Monday - OMG! Ubuntu! | Mar 27 09:45 | |
| amarsh04 | I've had great help from Japanese kernel developers and a Japanese Debian package maintainer but Linux doesn't seem to be used in their own projects as much (e.g. JAXA, their space agency or their meteorological agency) | Mar 27 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Interface Switcher Walkthrough plus | Mar 27 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What's New for 16.04 | Mar 27 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6hMnJ2JtR7 (www.youtube.com) | Mar 27 10:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Ubuntu MATE Interface Switcher Walkthrough plus What's New for 16.04 - YouTube | Mar 27 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q: Is Puppylinux 4k Ready? A: Mostly, yes. | Mar 27 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UXiYMeCM8t (q5sys.sh) | Mar 27 10:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q5sys.sh | Q: Is Puppylinux 4k Ready? A: Mostly, yes. | Mar 27 10:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714090644835340290 | Mar 27 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz We put a fence around our house built out of glass windows. We're shocked people manage to throw rocks over our fence! | Mar 27 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cooking a Linux Kernel with Distcc | Mar 27 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/92Cj7U5H1t (www.crankyotaku.com) | Mar 27 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "reduced to about 1/4th on subsequent compiles | Mar 27 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with the use of ccache." | Mar 27 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crankyotaku.com | Cranky Otaku: Cooking a Linux Kernel with Distcc | Mar 27 10:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trying to do normal stuff with SELinux enabled | Mar 27 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | Trying to do normal stuff with SELinux enabled - DevOps Reactions | Mar 27 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Multiplayer Streaming with Open Broadcaster | Mar 27 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multiplatform | Multi-stream | Mar 27 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Multiplayer Streaming with Open Broadcaster Multiplatform | Multi-stream - YouTube | Mar 27 10:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android N Preview for Android TV Now Supports | Mar 27 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multiple Accounts and More | Mar 27 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nashvillechatterclass.com | Android N Preview for Android TV Now Supports Multiple Accounts and More | Mar 27 10:23 | |
| schestowitz | > https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-fights-for-mega-millions-in-u-s-appeals-court-160326/ | Mar 27 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | Kim Dotcom Fights For "Mega Millions" in U.S. Appeals Court - TorrentFreak | Mar 27 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 27 10:34 |
| schestowitz | > Remind me again how his business model was any different than Box or | Mar 27 10:34 |
| schestowitz | > Dropbox or the others? | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Let's assume for a moment that the US isn't just trying to ruin the person for his attitude. | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Assume... | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | I suppose his reluctance or hands-off approach towards takedowns was the issue, lack of obedience. If privacy of users is honoured, this in inevitable. | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Mar 27 10:35 | |
| schestowitz | > == | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > Have a good Easter. I think there will not be much mainstream news | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > published because of the holiday. It probably won't pick up until Wed. | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'm catching up with some stuff. | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > PS. You were considering looking up Spanish history, perhaps the | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | > Reconquista. Has the library or bookstore yielded good material on that? | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | I think history (for me) is best left to Wikipedia, with all its flaws. History can be forgotten even if you learn it and there's too much for it to learn anyway... | Mar 27 10:35 |
| schestowitz | The important thing is the method of retrieving relevant information. | Mar 27 10:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It's time to make Android bloatware disappear: | Mar 27 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | You're Doing It All Wrong | Mar 27 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TTbjm2XJYU (www.cnet.com) | Mar 27 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | It's time to make Android bloatware disappear video - CNET | Mar 27 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/PJAjZTNNws | Mar 27 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Mar 27 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/zz8XypY1eR | Mar 27 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux Machines | Mar 27 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Debian and Derivatives | Mar 27 11:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Mar 27 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/OiPKhRY6C7 | Mar 27 11:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 27/3/2016: Mageia 6 and Parsix GNU/Linux | Mar 27 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8.10 on Their Way https://t.co/gmd5HCVgaJ | Mar 27 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 11:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/3/2016: Mageia 6 and Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 on Their Way | Techrights | Mar 27 11:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459075025270#c7723125156657477680 | Mar 27 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times | Mar 27 11:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm happy that my comments remind Old Sad of: | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | "....an old litigation lawyer who repeatedly said that the patent proprietor discovers the scope of his patent, the day he goes to court." | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, that is still the reality, however much Old Sad might wish it were not. | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | However, as I also wrote, the White Book of case law from DG3 is the jewel in the crown of European patent law. Not DG1 but DG3 decides what is obvious and what is not. From time to time, decisions of opposition divisions get reversed by a Board of Appeal. But because of the Problem and Solution Approach, and the clarity of DG3 thinking on what is meant by the "disclosure" of a document, this is less likely than in other jurisdictions. Long | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | may that remain so. Would that national courts defer more to the jurisprudence in the White Book and the "Established Caselaw of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO". It would help legal certainty in Europe. | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | But meanwhile, from time to time, national courts do revoke patents upheld by both DG1 and DG3. When advising clients, this then is the reality I have to explain to them. In the end, I'm writing claims that will both cover the infringement and survive all attacks on validity, even after discovery and cross-examination. The claims are no use if they achieve one (of valid and infringed) but not the other. This is the reality, and the squeeze, | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | outside the EPO. | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | The call for "Would that national courts defer more to the jurisprudence in the White Book and the "Established Caselaw of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO". It would help legal certainty in Europe." sounds like a call for stare decisis. | Mar 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | Something that you claim does not work. | Mar 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | The dichotomy in what you post continues without abatement. | Mar 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | Do you even realize this, or is this more of your "be[ing] provocative"...? | Mar 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/714118797892845568 | Mar 27 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jsalsman: @schestowitz cc ^ | Mar 27 11:57 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Upcoming Android Smartphones 2016: Samsung | Mar 27 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Galaxy Note 6, Huawei P9, One Plus 3, Moto X | Mar 27 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2016 And More https://t.co/3wfJNPsTFe | Mar 27 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techtimes.com) | Mar 27 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Upcoming Android Smartphones 2016: Samsung Galaxy Note 6, Huawei P9, One Plus 3, Moto X 2016 And More : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times | Mar 27 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Gaming in GNU/Linux is growing rapidly. So is | Mar 27 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | use of GNU/Linux for creating software." | Mar 27 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HOfAvakoMG (mrpogson.com) | Mar 27 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | TOOS Plummets. GNU/Linux Thrives. | Robert Pogson | Mar 27 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.22 Schedule Published This Week | Mar 27 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fVi6AHZQ9J (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 27 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME 3.22 Schedule Published This Week - Phoronix | Mar 27 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Days to Die alpha 14 released, Linux graphics | Mar 27 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | broken again https://t.co/a6bkOBzkSB | Mar 27 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 7 Days to Die alpha 14 released, Linux graphics broken again | GamingOnLinux | Mar 27 12:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android Phone 2016: Know The One Which | Mar 27 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Suits You The Best https://t.co/tOsHxKVUOi | Mar 27 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fossbytes.com) | Mar 27 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Best Android Phone 2016: Know The One Which Suits You The Best | Mar 27 12:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 27 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/dIc4TF2A6d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 12:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/filmmakers-cry-censorship-after-robert-deniro-boots-anti-vaxx-movie-from-film-festival/ http://www.inquisitr.com/2931612/robert-de-niro-pulls-controversial-anti-vaccination-film-from-tribeca-film-festival-accused-of-censorship-by-director/ | Mar 27 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Filmmakers cry ‘censorship’ after Robert DeNiro boots anti-vaxx movie from film festival [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkv ] | Mar 27 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inquisitr.com | Robert De Niro Pulls Controversial Anti-Vaccination Film From Tribeca Film Festival, Accused Of Censorship By Director [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkw ] | Mar 27 12:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://deadline.com/2016/03/robert-de-niro-vaxxed-tribeca-film-festival-statement-1201726799/ http://fox61.com/2016/03/27/robert-de-niro-defends-festival-screening-of-anti-vaccine-film/ | Mar 27 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deadline.com | De Niro Defends “Personal” Decision To Screen ‘Vaxxed’ At Film Fest | Deadline [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkx ] | Mar 27 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fox61.com | Robert De Niro defends festival screening of anti-vaccine film | FOX 61 [ http://ur1.ca/ooqky ] | Mar 27 12:57 | |
| schestowitz | "“My intent in screening this film was to provide an opportunity for conversation around an issue that is deeply personal to me and my family,” De Niro said in a statement. “But after reviewing it over the past few days with the Tribeca Film Festival team and others from the scientific community, we do not believe it contributes to or furthers the discussion I had hoped for.”" | Mar 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz | "That the film was made by the person blamed by some and credited by others for the anti-vaccine movement makes it propaganda, not documentary film, critics say." | Mar 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz | quite a dilemma | Mar 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz | screen stuff that makes people less safe? | Mar 27 12:58 |
| schestowitz | for the sake of pseudo-science along with free speech? I guess that religious firms are acceptable, so why not this? Maybe quality control... | Mar 27 12:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/714140649877057536 | Mar 27 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Then why are there isolationist democrats and open-borders autocrats? https://t.co/y9JfvPHJPR | Mar 27 13:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "National isolation is the desire of every dictator: If his subjects never see what a freer society looks like" https://t.co/kue6YlbSs3 | Mar 27 13:56 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:06] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oor0p | Mar 27 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pharmagossip: U.S. Seeks Records of 80,000 Novartis `Sham' Events for Doctors https://t.co/hdlKHiEObx via @business | Mar 27 15:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- (Re-tweeted by glynmoody) | Mar 27 15:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com | U.S. Seeks Records of 80,000 Novartis `Sham' Events for Doctors - Bloomberg Business | Mar 27 15:28 | |
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| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lennart_Poettering&oldid=702614229 | Mar 27 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lennart Poettering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ooraq ] | Mar 27 16:05 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice animal | Mar 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Nationality Smurf | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Occupation Bloatware generator | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Employer NSA | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Known for Cr@p software | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I see the rest now | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Well, to be fair, his employer works with the NSA | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | and the NSA keeps a close eye on systemd, based on an article highlighted in phoroni | Mar 27 17:21 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/pusickina-lobistica-za-un-u-sredistu-medunarodnog-skandala-908177 | Mar 27 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dnevno.hr | Pusićkina lobistica za UN u središtu međunarodnog skandala | Dnevno.hr | Mar 27 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | new | Mar 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | techrights cited a lot | Mar 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | can anyone here understand croatian? | Mar 27 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 27 17:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts | Mar 27 17:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | Do you know someone who is capable of translating the article below into | Mar 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | English? Semantics matter more than English grammar, Google translations | Mar 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | can distort the information. | Mar 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459096059791#c3000122554248201365 | Mar 27 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times [ http://ur1.ca/oorzr ] | Mar 27 17:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz | I must admit that I have only read the last few postings. But what struck me very negatively are the personal attacks on MaxDrei, whereas I cannot see any such personal attacks from him. Not in the last few postings anyway. If he thinks his clients need something, why contradict? May be he has clients with different needs than you have? Also his remark about the decisions of DG3 is not rigid at all. I see it as a call for a more uniform | Mar 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz | application of the law, so that decisions become more predictable, making the life of a patent agent and the life of the client easier. What is wrong with that? But yes, if you look for some other interpretation, no doubt you'll find it and attacking on the basis of that interpretation is perfectly possible. But is it fair? On top, especially US anon should realise that many posters here do not have English as their mother tongue, or even as | Mar 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz | their first or second foreign language. I don't know about MaxDrei, but I think reading the postings with a mind willing to understand (as claims are supposedly being read) is a fair and pleasant attitude. Please keep it civil. | Mar 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Eposad | Mar 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 17:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/712362118134239234 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/712361325767348224 | Mar 27 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @bastianbest @MannySchecter Does non-obvious imply some technical problem is solved by technical means? The question needs clarity as ... | Mar 27 18:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @bastianbest @MannySchecter It might solve a technical problem with the hardware, but no technical problem as a bare method. | Mar 27 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnAlty1/status/710571515348164609 | Mar 27 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnAlty1: @Twpalovi @EPOorg I'm sure it will be. It was read out in open session. Staff reps present. | Mar 27 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robert_fietzke/status/703892056293437441 | Mar 27 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robert_fietzke: Nazi-Plakate vor Flüchtlingsheimen in #Magdeburg: "Wir hängen nicht nur Plakate". Unfassbar! #ltwlsa https://t.co/5BezrzZkmQ | Mar 27 18:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robert_fietzke: Nazi-Plakate vor Flüchtlingsheimen in #Magdeburg: "Wir hängen nicht nur Plakate". Unfassbar! #ltwlsa https://t.co/5BezrzZkmQ | Mar 27 18:13 | |
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| schestowitz | 'It ain`t the parts of the Bible that I can`t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. | Mar 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Mark Twain | Mar 27 18:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxHQ The #Linux Daily is out! | Mar 27 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/V4Fh8xYmW8 (paper.li) Stories via | Mar 27 18:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The #Linux Daily | Mar 27 18:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of | Mar 27 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Refinements, It's Now Stateless | Mar 27 18:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of Refinements, It's Now Stateless | Tux Machines | Mar 27 18:35 | |
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| gde33 | schestowitz: I'm not all that experienced with them but there are some software tools to translate applications. (I vaguely remember Pootle) Usually these have a community of translators. | Mar 27 19:27 |
| schestowitz | gde33: I might have someone around who can help | Mar 27 19:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Good things come to those who wait… Mageia 6 | Mar 27 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dev1 is here. https://t.co/uGY4yVv3gK | Mar 27 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.mageia.org) | Mar 27 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | Good things come to those who wait… Mageia 6 dev1 is here. | Mageia Blog (English) | Mar 27 20:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 22:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 22:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i... https://t.co/9Gl42T4wNm (gettopical.com) | Mar 27 22:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | via @tuxmachines | Mar 27 22:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux in Datacentres | Mar 27 22:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft | Mar 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CyberConsulting i... https://t.co/9Gl42T4wNm (gettopical.com) | Mar 28 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | via @tuxmachines | Mar 28 02:57 |
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| schestowitz | “Total control” sounds good until you realize what it actually means: total control. | Mar 28 03:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of | Mar 28 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Refinements, It's Now Stateless | Mar 28 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of Refinements, It's Now Stateless | Mar 28 04:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xubuntu 16.04 LTS and Lubuntu 16.04 LTS Get | Mar 28 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Their Final Betas, Download Now | Mar 28 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Xubuntu 16.04 LTS and Lubuntu 16.04 LTS Get Their Final Betas, Download Now | Mar 28 04:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Galaxy S7 review: this is the Android | Mar 28 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | phone you’ve been waiting for | Mar 28 04:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com | Samsung Galaxy S7 review: this is the Android phone you’ve been waiting for | SiliconANGLE | Mar 28 04:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Warsow 2.1 First-Person Shooter Game Released | Mar 28 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Easter with Many Changes | Mar 28 04:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Warsow 2.1 First-Person Shooter Game Released for Easter with Many Changes | Mar 28 04:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meld 3.15.2 Diff and Merge App Released with | Mar 28 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GTK+ 3.20 and XDG-App Support, More | Mar 28 04:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meld 3.15.2 Diff and Merge App Released with GTK+ 3.20 and XDG-App Support, More | Mar 28 04:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of...' | Mar 28 04:33 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=First-Skylake-Mobo-To-Fail | Mar 28 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The First Skylake Motherboard To Fail Me: Goes Kaput After Just 4 Months - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/oovdg ] | Mar 28 04:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gurnaik/status/714371550762430464 | Mar 28 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gurnaik: Use this application quite a lot. https://t.co/BvipDrmzKh | Mar 28 04:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Meld 3.15.2 #Diff and Merge App Released with GTK+ 3.20 and XDG-App Support, More https://t.co/NNmjT3jwpF #gtk #gnome | Mar 28 04:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meld 3.15.2 Diff and Merge App Released with...' | Mar 28 04:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Infinix Hot 2 (Android One) Update Includes a | Mar 28 04:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “RAM Booster” https://t.co/V3iMfq8W2m | Mar 28 04:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.xda-developers.com) | Mar 28 04:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Infinix Hot 2 (Android One) Update Includes a "RAM Booster" | Mar 28 04:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Project Leader elections 2016 | Mar 28 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vepMLJnHTa (bits.debian.org) | Mar 28 05:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/03/dpl-elections-2016.html ) | Mar 28 05:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beware unofficial apps: why Android malware | Mar 28 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | won’t go away https://t.co/kR5FbSqpo4 | Mar 28 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpit.com) people actually install it | Mar 28 05:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Beware unofficial apps: why Android malware won't go away - AndroidPIT | Mar 28 05:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines group test: Raspberry Pi Robots | Mar 28 05:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tMi7trQzkW (www.linuxvoice.com) | Mar 28 05:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'The First Ubuntu Tablet, BQ Aquaris M10, Is...' | Mar 28 06:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/1wi2608bwA | Mar 28 06:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/thisDaveJ/status/714394494737625088 | Mar 28 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@thisDaveJ: Impressive tiny computer for $39. Runs #openwrt. https://t.co/ggSGVfotbE | Mar 28 06:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #VoCore : A Cheap And Coin-sized Linux Computer With Wi-Fi https://t.co/SlqN9FlPli #linux | Mar 28 06:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/esmeraldadereth/status/714397454234488832 | Mar 28 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@esmeraldadereth: Interesting analysis: Confrontation & compassion can work together #USelections2016 https://t.co/ePmjtHIeTB | Mar 28 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The gathering storm of white supremacy" https://t.co/fIIEVMWH35 | Mar 28 06:31 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7182873 | Mar 28 06:48 |
| schestowitz | "Does that mean that they do not add it to their repository?" | Mar 28 06:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's Looking Like Debian 9.0 Stretch Won't Support OwnCloud http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-Stretch-OwnCloud #debian #owncloud #gnu #linux | Mar 28 06:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | It's Looking Like Debian 9.0 Stretch Won't Support OwnCloud - Phoronix | Mar 28 06:48 | |
| schestowitz | "Looks like Upstream doesn’t do standard release practices." | Mar 28 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The First Ubuntu Tablet, BQ Aquaris M10, Is | Mar 28 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Pre-Order Now | Mar 28 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qQ5xRUOppm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 07:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The First Ubuntu Tablet, BQ Aquaris M10, Is Available for Pre-Order Now | Tux Machines | Mar 28 07:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MIUI 7.2.8 China ROM Based on Android 6.0 | Mar 28 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marshmallow Starts Rolling Out | Mar 28 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H0ChklW8Wa (gadgets.ndtv.com) | Mar 28 07:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | MIUI 7.2.8 China ROM Based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow Starts Rolling Out | NDTV Gadgets360.com | Mar 28 07:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here is the most profound change that happened | Mar 28 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Android when Andy Rubin left and Sundar | Mar 28 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pichai took over Google https://t.co/bbFW4OLPPT | Mar 28 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phonearena.com) | Mar 28 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Here is the most profound change that happened to Android when Andy Rubin left and Sundar Pichai took over Google | Mar 28 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source in the enterprise: Perspectives for | Mar 28 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CIOs https://t.co/FcAOnX57ux | Mar 28 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source in the enterprise: Perspectives for CIOs | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS | Mar 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Optimized for Audio Production | Mar 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rDQPKUfFle (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS Optimized for Audio Production | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman | Mar 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/S8SI6rEdMN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other | Mar 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Investing Options https://t.co/9ZD6Ns8a65 | Mar 28 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other Investing Options | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS...' | Mar 28 11:30 | |
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| mahydraal_ | hello everyone | Mar 28 12:05 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: hi | Mar 28 12:06 |
| mahydraal_ | so what goes on in here? | Mar 28 12:06 |
| mahydraal_ | i just stumbled across this site a bit ago and got curious | Mar 28 12:06 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Well, stuff :) | Mar 28 12:15 |
| mahydraal_ | what would that be? | Mar 28 12:34 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Politics, foreign politics, local politics, politics around GNU/Linux | Mar 28 12:35 |
| mahydraal_ | are we the only currently active anons here? | Mar 28 12:36 |
| XRevan86 | that about sums it up :) | Mar 28 12:36 |
| mahydraal_ | where is everybodt? | Mar 28 12:36 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Today the channel is kinda quiet yes. Odd. | Mar 28 12:36 |
| mahydraal_ | so what is on everyones mind? | Mar 28 12:37 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: It's not a quiet channel generally, so it really is odd :). | Mar 28 12:37 |
| XRevan86 | I have slapping GNOME developers in their faces in my mind | Mar 28 12:38 |
| mahydraal_ | why? | Mar 28 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: They broke themes again. | Mar 28 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | in Gtk 3.20 | Mar 28 12:46 |
| mahydraal_ | seriously? | Mar 28 12:46 |
| MinceR | they still have themes? | Mar 28 12:47 |
| mahydraal_ | how? | Mar 28 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Yep, they did. This time on a major scale. | Mar 28 12:47 |
| MinceR | i thought letting the user have choice was bad :> | Mar 28 12:47 |
| MinceR | gtk has jumped the shark anyway | Mar 28 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | Themes have to be reworked basically from scratch. | Mar 28 12:47 |
| mahydraal_ | leh sigh.... | Mar 28 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | The most memorable part is… | Mar 28 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update | Mar 28 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update ) | Mar 28 12:49 | |
| XRevan86 | >> Oh NO! they’re breaking themes again! | Mar 28 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | > Which is certainly one way to look at it, but I think it misses the point a little bit – since the effort is actually meant to make life easier for anybody who wants to change the appearance of GTK+ widgets. | Mar 28 12:49 |
| MinceR | (javascript) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fast-nein-the-fast-the-fuhrer#/ | Mar 28 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiegogo.com | Fast Nein: The Fast & The Führer | Indiegogo | Mar 28 12:49 | |
| XRevan86 | xxx: Oh NO! They're censoring the Internet! | Mar 28 12:50 |
| XRevan86 | yyy: Which is certainly one way to look at it, but I think it misses the point a little bit – since the effort is actually meant to make life easier for anybody who wants to publish everything on Internet. | Mar 28 12:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 28 12:50 |
| XRevan86 | s/everything/anything/ | Mar 28 12:51 |
| *XRevan86 never appreciated Pink Floyd – Obscured by Clouds | Mar 28 12:59 | |
| XRevan86 | and it's actually a pretty good album | Mar 28 12:59 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Mar 28 13:09 |
| schestowitz | not a single song | Mar 28 13:09 |
| MinceR | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/990/005/721.jpg | Mar 28 13:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Idiocratia, I see. | Mar 28 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/714507445914173442 | Mar 28 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: https://t.co/qw6RhRn8Z3 | Mar 28 13:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | People Sent to Prison After Corruption Charges Over Microsoft Licences in Romanian Schools | Techrights | Mar 28 13:41 | |
| MinceR | idiocracy :> | Mar 28 13:44 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman...' | Mar 28 13:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @libagar followed @tuxmachines | Mar 28 13:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel | Mar 28 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 13:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 13:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman | Mar 28 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 14:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 14:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other | Mar 28 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Investing Options https://t.co/wFlOlD5pBY | Mar 28 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.thestreet.com) | Mar 28 14:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com | Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other Investing Options - TheStreet | Mar 28 14:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel | Mar 28 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uld76qvgNf (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 14:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Calamares team is happy to announce the | Mar 28 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | immediate availability of Calamares 2.2" | Mar 28 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JBPGreoZZY (calamares.io) | Mar 28 14:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-calamares.io | Calamares 2.2 is out – Calamares – A distribution independent installer framework | Mar 28 14:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS...' | Mar 28 14:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman...' | Mar 28 14:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS...' | Mar 28 14:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stali distribution smashes assumptions about | Mar 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/pPPv7BNqEV | Mar 28 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infoworld.com) | Mar 28 14:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Stali distribution smashes assumptions about Linux | InfoWorld | Mar 28 14:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/03/possible_govern.html | Mar 28 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Possible Government Demand for WhatsApp Backdoor - Schneier on Security [ http://ur1.ca/ooyr9 ] | Mar 28 14:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Two Worlds 3 in development, Two Worlds 2 comes | Mar 28 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Linux/SteamOS https://t.co/OikWF6bT3Y | Mar 28 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcgamer.com) | Mar 28 14:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcgamer.com | Two Worlds 3 in development, Two Worlds 2 comes to Linux/SteamOS - PC Gamer | Mar 28 14:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More BQ Aquaris M10 https://t.co/zdJs6reonV | Mar 28 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 14:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More BQ Aquaris M10 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 14:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines VoCore Debut https://t.co/8JshQYmQF7 | Mar 28 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 14:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VoCore Debut | Tux Machines | Mar 28 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/714526777335537664 | Mar 28 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: #WhatsApp может помочь сервисам Intel "по требованию" расшифровывать защищенный трафик. https://t.co/KfdcZchVUD | Mar 28 14:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WhatsApp can help intel' services with MITM 'on demand' https://t.co/83vB2ldw0i | Mar 28 14:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora's Rawhide Nodebug Kernel Is Now On Linux | Mar 28 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 https://t.co/hRn0SKDROB (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 15:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora's Rawhide Nodebug Kernel Is Now On Linux 4.6 - Phoronix | Mar 28 15:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The NVIDIA GTX 900 Series Performance On The | Mar 28 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Nouveau Driver | Mar 28 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RMGopCZhoX (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The NVIDIA GTX 900 Series Performance On The Open-Source Nouveau Driver - Phoronix | Mar 28 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The @linuxfoundation enables remote access to | Mar 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | its events https://t.co/VK2WVjfg43 | Mar 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) https://t.co/za2cf0XhZo | Mar 28 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Mar 28 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Watch Collaboration Summit Live Via Free Streaming Video | Linux.com | Mar 28 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Get the Latest on SDN & NFV, Watch the Open Networking Summit 2016 Recap | Linux.com | Mar 28 15:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gunvolt_linux/status/714539997496532993 | Mar 28 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gunvolt_linux: @schestowitz @quix0rquitter GREEN PARTY OR UNAFFILIATED | Mar 28 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/714541084861456384 | Mar 28 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz We might as well rename them Mother Clinton. Old lady Mary Harris Jones is probably spinning in her grave | Mar 28 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | It all happened quite recently, more recently than #MediaMatters getting PAC/Clinton money to become her mouthpiece. #motherjones | Mar 28 15:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7187932 | Mar 28 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DIRNSA (the #nsa Director) in #israel while all journalists are busy having #easter holiday https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714493369259573249 | Mar 28 16:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @BarakRavid Maybe. DIRNSA isn't SECSTATE: if not multilateral (ceremonial), "discussion" usually means agreements. | Mar 28 16:15 | |
| schestowitz | Pfff… nothing that special about such meetings. | Mar 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Also note that Easter is not a holiday in Israel (Passover is, but it will be much later this year). | Mar 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | That's my point | Mar 28 16:15 |
| cubexyz | what's a good replacement for facebook? | Mar 28 16:32 |
| cubexyz | not happy with it | Mar 28 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Alternative for what? | Mar 28 16:34 |
| cubexyz | for facebook... something similar to facebook that doesn't suck | Mar 28 16:34 |
| cubexyz | http://on.rt.com/78e0 | Mar 28 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | Russian chess prodigy wins thrilling Moscow cliffhanger to challenge for world title in NYC — RT Sport | Mar 28 16:34 | |
| cubexyz | I can't even clipboard URLs into fb | Mar 28 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: But being suck is in Facebook's nature now. | Mar 28 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | so if you want something similiar to Facebook, you want it to suck | Mar 28 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | and if you want it to suck but you specify that it has to not suck… | Mar 28 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | then we have a problem | Mar 28 16:36 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: irc :) | Mar 28 16:37 |
| cubexyz | maybe Diaspora? | Mar 28 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Windows | Mar 28 16:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 Released – Here’s What’s New | Mar 28 16:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5YlFdP0TjY (linuxscoop.com) | Mar 28 16:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | KDE Plasma 5.6 Released - Here's What's New - Linux Scoop | Mar 28 16:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Mar 28 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QlJDt6o9nc (distrowatch.com) | Mar 28 16:38 |
| MinceR | well, there's gnu social too | Mar 28 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Mar 28 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Z1 updated to Tizen 2.4 in India – | Mar 28 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | version Z130HDDU0CPC4 https://t.co/OM53Ako0pM | Mar 28 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 28 16:38 |
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| MinceR | though i have no idea if it can work as well as statusnet used to | Mar 28 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z1 updated to Tizen 2.4 in India - version Z130HDDU0CPC4 - Tizen Experts | Mar 28 16:38 | |
| MinceR | (lightweight web pages, no need for javascript, usable conversation view) | Mar 28 16:38 |
| MinceR | (the instances i've seen recently were all javascript-only wannabe twitter crap) | Mar 28 16:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: joindiaspora changed owners | Mar 28 16:44 |
| schestowitz | and left AWS | Mar 28 16:44 |
| schestowitz | moved to Germany some days ago, it's now a little better | Mar 28 16:44 |
| MinceR | i don't know diaspora well either, i've only seen single posts and comments on them | Mar 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | it also seems to rely on javascript more than statusnet did | Mar 28 16:45 |
| cubexyz | gnu social seems to be a big bloated thing | Mar 28 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's getting cleaned up | Mar 28 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | it already doesn't require JS :) | Mar 28 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | (StatusNet did) | Mar 28 16:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I check it out | Mar 28 16:48 |
| MinceR | nice | Mar 28 16:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android “microG” aims to cut out Google (sort | Mar 28 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of) https://t.co/iLRnLAWe4O (www.slashgear.com) | Mar 28 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android “microG” aims to cut out Google (sort of) - SlashGear | Mar 28 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Linux vendor keeps growing" unlike | Mar 28 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft says a Microsoft-connected site | Mar 28 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKWm4HGBcI (www.fool.com) | Mar 28 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.com | How Red Hat, Inc. Keeps the Good Times Rolling -- Regardless of Sector Headwinds -- The Motley Fool | Mar 28 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/jFfGglnckF | Mar 28 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Mar 28 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free Tech Refresher: OSS Isn’t Always FOSS | Mar 28 16:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Tech Refresher: OSS Isn’t Always FOSS | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle seeks $9.3 billion for Google’s use of | Mar 28 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Java in Android https://t.co/R5Q7ZkbOfl | Mar 28 17:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle seeks $9.3 billion for Google’s use of Java in Android | Tux Machines | Mar 28 17:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big Data https://t.co/8m0tY0cBZr | Mar 28 17:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Big Data | Tux Machines | Mar 28 17:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Fedora Linux Is Looking To Become More Modular...' | Mar 28 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 28/3/2016: BQ Aquaris M10, VoCore | Mar 28 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/ery9YEOCJ3 (techrights.org) | Mar 28 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2016: BQ Aquaris M10, VoCore | Techrights | Mar 28 17:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/OUcqW0kIqB | Mar 28 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/WOUTxvyMH5 | Mar 28 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/vIufPkt1DF | Mar 28 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CarlForrest favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/OLkaqVASGg' | Mar 28 18:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Darkest Dungeon Gothic Roguelike Turn-Based RPG | Mar 28 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Linux Public Beta https://t.co/uodqvYnikb | Mar 28 18:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Darkest Dungeon Gothic Roguelike Turn-Based RPG Gets Linux Public Beta | Mar 28 18:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Just in Time for Hadoop World, @LinuxFoundation | Mar 28 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Delivers on #ODPi https://t.co/O6mm1ef8Ch | Mar 28 18:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Just in Time for Hadoop World, Linux Foundation Delivers on ODPi | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 | Mar 28 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Haswell https://t.co/1Y61iFwaI5 | Mar 28 18:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 Haswell - Phoronix | Mar 28 18:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Just in Time for Hadoop World, Linux Foundation | Mar 28 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Delivers on ODPi https://t.co/4P6OKcZyqd | Mar 28 18:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Just in Time for Hadoop World, Linux Foundation Delivers on ODPi | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:56 | |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CepU0pBXEAE_s5U.jpg | Mar 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/714587776633741312 | Mar 28 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz The chill effect is a devastating symptom of 21st century internet use! Please never stop blowing the trumpet! <3 | Mar 28 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/714588137486426113 | Mar 28 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: There is no peace in silence for someone else's sake @schestowitz ;) | Mar 28 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | hurt feelings... | Mar 28 19:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/714588507822546944 | Mar 28 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz <3 | Mar 28 19:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/714592837720006656 | Mar 28 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Ben Jennings on guns at Republican convention @schestowitz https://t.co/mVlJJzvXQz | Mar 28 19:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Ben Jennings on guns at Republican convention – cartoon | Opinion | The Guardian | Mar 28 19:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 | Mar 28 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Haswell https://t.co/5SVWkNpfql | Mar 28 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 Haswell | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ark, the file archiver and compressor | Mar 28 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | developed by KDE, has seen the addition of | Mar 28 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | several new features" https://t.co/ldBqUZ2Cac | Mar 28 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rthomsen6.wordpress.com | Ark improvements in 16.04 | rthomsen6 | Mar 28 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux desktop Environment | Mar 28 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best Linux desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why not Arch Linux? https://t.co/4WCc3Cr2qW | Mar 28 20:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Why not Arch Linux? | Mar 28 20:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Mar 28 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | http://dominickm.com/?p=693 | Mar 28 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominickm.com | Linux Adventure Pt 2: Ubuntu Apps - dominickm.com | Mar 28 20:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7187505 | Mar 28 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Misusing the word #censorship does the debate no favour. If idiots discourage parents from vaccination children, that's harmful. [2/2] | Mar 28 20:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Where does that statement about “telling parents not to vaccinate their children” come from? Pointing out this corruption you agreed exists, in addition to coverups and their side effect, i.e. ruining people’s lives, does not mean all medical procedures / pharmaceuticals do not have their place, many of them are however completely not necessary, are overprescribed, diseases misdiagnosed. | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Medical industry - of which pharmaceutical industry is a part - thinks of itself as proverbial sacred cows, to the point that their errors are either covered up, diluted with silly dialectics (of which that statement in quotes above is an example) or outright rejected, until they are forced to admit their criminal actions, like in the statement from William Thompson, posted on his attorney’s site, that I linked to in previous comment. | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | It’s the ingredients in vaccines that cause such dangerous side effects. There is a direct link between those ingredients and autism epidemic, as well as other diseases and deaths. It’s difficult for me to believe that in 21st century, vaccines have to be made with something that can and does have such effects - first step to changing that is realizing what is wrong, not speaking (perhaps unconsciously?) like someone who can be thought | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | of as a useful idiot, sorry. | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Until these things affect you directly, I suppose you can continue with such blanket statements which do not contribute to resolving this situation… | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Everything including food has side effects, but to generalise all vaccinations and warn people about them often leads gullible/impressionable parents to not vaccinate their children at all. This puts at risk all children. | Mar 28 20:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7188960 | Mar 28 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #sanders "82 percent of voters in Alaska [...] 73 percent in Washington State and 71 percent in Hawaii." http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/03/13068/easter-rebellion-three-states-give-bernie-sanders-landslide-victories | Mar 28 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Easter Rebellion: Three States Give Bernie Sanders Landslide Victories | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/op267 ] | Mar 28 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | "#FeelTheBernie" | Mar 28 20:44 |
| schestowitz | And Birdie | Mar 28 20:44 |
| MinceR | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12321277_995972043828692_6608373861568947648_n.jpg?oh=cbe87885ee9c7997055a76a8fe83ed6d&oe=577DBE6D | Mar 28 20:49 |
| schestowitz | heh | Mar 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz | http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/28/3762742/trump-rhetoric-2/ | Mar 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Donald Trump May Sound Like A Clown, But He Is A Rhetoric Pro Like Cicero | ThinkProgress | Mar 28 21:28 | |
| MinceR | Scott Adams has been saying that for months now | Mar 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz | "We actually found out when Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders called him out on this exact statement during a debate with Hillary Clinton, saying the New York billionaire should be unelectable because he “thinks that climate change is a hoax, invented by the Chinese.”" | Mar 28 21:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft | Mar 29 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 29 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @josephdrake03 i... https://t.co/9Gl42T4wNm (gettopical.com) | Mar 29 00:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux in Datacentres | Mar 29 00:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Mopardude5150/status/714630177947459584 | Mar 29 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mopardude5150: Only cowards do this. Go after terrorists with bullets soaked in blood. https://t.co/KChfU0FyRp | Mar 29 05:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Christians but Arabs, so when dead by suicide bomber it hardly made headlines, unlike in #europe https://t.co/BYgKM8xt4q selective empathy | Mar 29 05:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rafa_linux/status/714696878462517249 | Mar 29 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rafa_linux: Installing Linux was never difficult. Anyway, it's good news https://t.co/bNwplOGiUc | Mar 29 05:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Can an 11 year old install Linux https://t.co/DoBtnuh97r yes, not hard anymore. #gnu #linux | Mar 29 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | 15 years ago it was reasonably difficult | Mar 29 05:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DevopsTown/status/714706228295954433 | Mar 29 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DevopsTown: RT @schestowitz: Getting to know the man leading Fedora https://t.co/cKHKMEC2x0 A truly passionate leader. #fedora #redhat | Mar 29 05:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com | Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Network World | Mar 29 05:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rafa_linux/status/714745791886307328 | Mar 29 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rafa_linux: @schestowitz Yes, you're right, maybe it was more fun 15 years ago! 😜 | Mar 29 05:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LisonHanna/status/714750778628509696 https://twitter.com/Limportant_fr/status/714750847817748481 https://twitter.com/Limportant_fr/status/714750851169038336 | Mar 29 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LisonHanna: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 https://t.co/qLnuMVyksu @schestowitz #c https://t.co/pVroWb7ZhC | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.artnet.com | Report Details ensorship in 2015 - artnet News | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LisonHanna: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 https://t.co/qLnuMVyksu @schestowitz #c https://t.co/pVroWb7ZhC | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP https://t.co/TetVg5K00z | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> limportant.fr | Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP https://t.co/TetVg5K00z | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: @schestowitz Votre 1er tweet a été sélectionné par L'important https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP | Mar 29 05:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu | Mar 29 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 16.04 LTS Beta for IBM LinuxONE | Mar 29 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4czKKgvUDg (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 05:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Beta for IBM LinuxONE | Mar 29 05:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/revuedepresse30/status/714751988920094721 | Mar 29 05:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@revuedepresse30: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/THdqkONy34 https://t.co/AoeD6NrYSB | Mar 29 05:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> positifvortex.wordpress.com | Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz | Positif Vortex | Mar 29 05:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@revuedepresse30: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/THdqkONy34 https://t.co/AoeD6NrYSB | Mar 29 05:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, | Mar 29 06:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Adds a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 06:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PCj3YK1vyK (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 06:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, Adds a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 06:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS...' | Mar 29 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189102 | Mar 29 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 11 Outstanding Backup Utilities for Linux Systems http://www.tecmint.com/linux-system-backup-tools/ | Mar 29 06:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Every Linux Backup Ranking List, which doesn’t mention Clonezilla is incomplete." | Mar 29 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tecmint.com | 11 Outstanding Backup Utilities For Linux Systems [ http://ur1.ca/op7ci ] | Mar 29 06:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714762557077266433 | Mar 29 06:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Compliance is always in the hands of the end user. We don't really need firmware saying, "I'm sorry, Dave." | Mar 29 06:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714766751892955136 | Mar 29 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Before Nixon, American anti-drug movement was driven by racists claiming drugs made non-whites more dangerous. | Mar 29 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crookedgop/status/714767508079820800 | Mar 29 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@crookedgop: @BrianGPowell https://t.co/2rZhBeEDDI | Mar 29 07:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Helping #billgates destroy US public #education system for his selfish domination and profit https://t.co/v1pIh4mpFe https://t.co/VlB48Exg46 | Mar 29 07:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, Adds...' | Mar 29 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://opensource.com/life/16/3/poll-where-do-you-back-up-your-data | Mar 29 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Where do you back up your data? | Opensource.com | Mar 29 07:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/714776617969664000 | Mar 29 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The main tenet of free software: user is king. https://t.co/nvrwJXKRmH | Mar 29 07:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their own computing destiny' https://t.co/J39RANu1M8 #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Mar 29 07:31 | |
| schestowitz | free ad http://www.albanydailystar.com/technology/microsoft-corporation-famous-db-solution-mssql-server-arrives-linux-bakersfield-tekno-time-17448.html | Mar 29 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albanydailystar.com | Microsoft Corporation famous DB solution , MSSQL Server arrives Linux - Bakersfield Tekno Time | Mar 29 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/714780333644840961 | Mar 29 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: #ZOG #Argentina #TeleSur #Censorship #NWO https://t.co/dswEihNHFU | Mar 29 07:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #argentina stomping on competing ideology https://t.co/4K1pD6jF5b https://t.co/sbm1EDGU7i https://t.co/LzAzULCc97 https://t.co/4WSYKfbkud | Mar 29 07:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their | Mar 29 08:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | own computing destiny' https://t.co/5TROfvNe1S | Mar 29 08:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their own computing destiny' | Network World | Mar 29 08:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Mar 29 08:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5l27Lo2GTu (techrights.org) | Mar 29 08:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Techrights | Mar 29 08:13 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 https://t.co/5l27Lo2GTu' | Mar 29 08:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/xvAzJd0lQ1 | Mar 29 08:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 29 08:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/X6WIcpSQp1 | Mar 29 08:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Mar 29 08:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/QL5QNFpKi5 | Mar 29 09:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 29 09:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/bfqdZ7v812 | Mar 29 09:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 29 09:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/TM0o0rxmLJ | Mar 29 09:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 09:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Mar 29 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/5l27Lo2GTu (techrights.org) | Mar 29 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts | Mar 29 13:35 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/714868745399873536 | Mar 29 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Hmmm maybe we can replace Gene Quinn for the change, can't we? | Mar 29 13:43 | |
| schestowitz | He's very rude, he also blocked me on Twitter. Gene Quinn is an arrogant blowhard, say even people in his circle. | Mar 29 13:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.managingip.com/Article/3541093/UK-design-fees-will-be-cheaper.html | Mar 29 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | UK design fees will be cheaper | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 29 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/714872874297925632 | Mar 29 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz I will put it gentle here, he is a provocateur, no more no less! | Mar 29 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | I hope #patent examiners and judges don't take Gene Quinn seriously. He's like a weapons manufacturer talking about war. | Mar 29 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SanDisk and Red Hat Form Strategic Alliance to | Mar 29 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Deliver High-Performance Flash-based Ceph | Mar 29 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Storage Solutions https://t.co/wqTgoTpx0k | Mar 29 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.businesswire.com) | Mar 29 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | SanDisk and Red Hat Form Strategic Alliance to Deliver High-Performance Flash-based Ceph Storage Solutions | Business Wire | Mar 29 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Expands Android Experiments Focus | Mar 29 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fCygWxyAzB (ostatic.com) | Mar 29 15:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Google Expands Android Experiments Focus | Mar 29 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, | Mar 29 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese | Mar 29 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Migrations https://t.co/Bv9n0ifjdJ | Mar 29 15:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights | Mar 29 15:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Todd__Davies favourited 'Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes,...' | Mar 29 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Mar 29 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fFAYe3pfrw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Tux Machines | Mar 29 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Quali Courts DevOps Community with Open Source | Mar 29 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plugins and Libraries https://t.co/WxlAKOd99M | Mar 29 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quali Courts DevOps Community with Open Source Plugins and Libraries | Tux Machines | Mar 29 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thoughts on Sailfish OS https://t.co/DFhljULzer | Mar 29 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thoughts on Sailfish OS | Tux Machines | Mar 29 15:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Mar 29 15:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LyZ7ozTSzo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 15:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Tux Machines | Mar 29 15:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/714894126504943616 | Mar 29 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz no, "if you're going to use Linux, it in Windows. We don't want you staying from the path we dictate" | Mar 29 15:33 | |
| MinceR | or to avoid the built-in backdoor | Mar 29 15:37 |
| MinceR | s | Mar 29 15:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/714899037397389313 | Mar 29 15:37 |
| MinceR | though cancerd helps with that | Mar 29 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz in Belgium the eID software is open source, even though the code involves Java in the browser. | Mar 29 15:37 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Mar 29 15:37 |
| schestowitz | RE SMS message, I sent the article to several german publishers, including Katja's.... | Mar 29 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Whether they'll cover it or not, we shall wait and see... | Mar 29 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Let nobody tell you that Europe's patent system is dysfunctional. If you want to see something that really is dysfunctional, follow the Link below, and scroll to the comment thread at #15. | Mar 29 16:00 |
| schestowitz | As the last commenter in that thread observes, at 15.2.1.1.1.1.1, the Patent Office grants patents on ineligible subject matter, and then itself revokes them as ineligible, on demand from a third party: | Mar 29 16:00 |
| schestowitz | http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/03/federal-circuit-opinion.html#comments | Mar 29 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/03/federal-circuit-opinion.html#comments ) | Mar 29 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | QUOTE^^ | Mar 29 16:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/714905449154416642 | Mar 29 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: unacceptable discrimination #EPO https://t.co/c4bF7jC3Fn | Mar 29 16:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Scandalous: European Patent Office Serves Only Microsoft Customers With Filing Software https://t.co/2GGqfoUjTN | Mar 29 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more | Mar 29 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | auto data-spaffing https://t.co/gryaxhItYZ | Mar 29 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more auto data-spaffing | Tux Machines | Mar 29 16:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, | Mar 29 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese | Mar 29 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux Migrations https://t.co/Bv9n0ifjdJ | Mar 29 16:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights | Mar 29 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Mar 29 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4DRJQw4bjG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 17:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Mar 29 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yfVDkC0ott (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 17:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7190789 | Mar 29 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 29 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Ignorance has the potential to shut down a valuable tool for reporters, dissidents, whistleblowers and those who are legitimate and want to be free from the overreach of a government who no longer values the privacy of its citizens. | Mar 29 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Dark Web’s Got a Bad Rep: 7 in 10 People Want It Shut Down, Study Shows #Tor #Privacy #WhistleBlowers | Mar 29 17:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/2016/03/study-finds-7-10-people-want-dark-web-shut/ | Mar 29 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Dark Web’s Got a Bad Rep: 7 in 10 People Want It Shut Down, Study Shows | WIRED | Mar 29 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the headsup | Mar 29 17:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189238 | Mar 29 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 29 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 17:09 |
| schestowitz | “So a rhetorician could persuade any audience, no matter how intelligent, that he was more of a doctor than a real doctor.” | Mar 29 17:09 |
| schestowitz | No, only works with dumb people. The dumber the better, even Trump hinted that: | Mar 29 17:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html | Mar 29 17:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Donald Trump: ‘I love the poorly educated’ [ http://ur1.ca/opgpj ] | Mar 29 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | their votes count as equal | Mar 29 17:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Yesterday and Today in Techrights https://t.co/yfVDkC0ott' | Mar 29 17:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 3 hidden shortcuts for typing faster on Android | Mar 29 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1suc8uN6gV (www.computerworld.com) | Mar 29 17:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | 3 hidden shortcuts for typing faster on Android | Computerworld | Mar 29 17:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha released! | Mar 29 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1RzGV3plrk (fedoramagazine.org) | Mar 29 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cDJ2j6qZCn (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2C80FhIRFQ (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 29 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/ ) | Mar 29 17:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Alpha Officially Released, Includes a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 17:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released - Phoronix | Mar 29 17:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux at 25: Q&A With Linus Torvalds | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ux8KaWOemm (spectrum.ieee.org) | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1vbChDIqsP (spectrum.ieee.org) | Mar 29 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Linux at 25: Q&A With Linus Torvalds - IEEE Spectrum | Mar 29 17:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Linux at 25: Why It Flourished While Others Fizzled - IEEE Spectrum | Mar 29 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release, | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Small Bug Fixes https://t.co/sP17lGqw2T | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgst | Mar 29 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release, Brings Small Bug Fixes | Mar 29 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L5MLXJA3Ro | Mar 29 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxblog.darkduck.com) | Mar 29 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Mar 29 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thoughts on Sailfish OS https://t.co/zqwAi8eDYt | Mar 29 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (it.toolbox.com) | Mar 29 17:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Thoughts on Sailfish OS | Mar 29 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Mar 29 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hXqE1pzvJM (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 29 17:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny - TechRepublic | Mar 29 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more | Mar 29 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | auto data-spaffing https://t.co/osDwMXaPVu | Mar 29 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Mar 29 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more auto data-spaffing • The Register | Mar 29 17:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FvAW7rTWmn (www.linuxinsider.com) | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv1 | Mar 29 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Mar 29 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marrying open source and the enterprise | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ctksmo9beP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 17:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: Marrying open source and the enterprise | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cvISYrlaYt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv3 | Mar 29 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 29 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marrying open source and the enterprise | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hJtOmaP2IP (www.zdnet.com) | Mar 29 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv4 | Mar 29 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: Marrying open source and the enterprise | ZDNet | Mar 29 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CharlotteEstbu1 Your GIFT Matrix of Mind Reality e-book. Grab | Mar 29 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it today. https://t.co/TKIRUVgf52 | Mar 29 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.mindreality.info) #Yoga @tuxmachines | Mar 29 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @edm_stream @mikehesselmial @TayCrossley | Mar 29 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mindreality.info | Mind Reality Secrets | Mar 29 17:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oph0p | Mar 29 17:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Yesterday and Today in Techrights https://t.co/cvISYrlaYt' | Mar 29 17:37 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/8AIk8REl.jpg | Mar 29 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's beatiful because you should rather think it's beatiful, otherwise what he said %) | Mar 29 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | lovely story | Mar 29 18:06 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 18:06 |
| MinceR | and that's what we call "free will" | Mar 29 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: G-d gave you free will to take it away. | Mar 29 18:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You see people like that IRL. | Mar 29 18:07 |
| XRevan86 | they were made by the image of G-d | Mar 29 18:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 18:09 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 29 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Mar 29 18:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 - Beta 4 Released! | Mar 29 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eSP9GCQXmQ (www.openshotvideo.com) | Mar 29 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openshotvideo.com | OpenShot Video Editor | Blog: OpenShot 2.0 - Beta 4 Released! | Mar 29 18:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Audacious 3.7.2 Open-Source Music Player | Mar 29 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released for Linux & Windows with Fixes | Mar 29 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jrt9tIsOGW (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Audacious 3.7.2 Open-Source Music Player Released for Linux & Windows with Fixes | Mar 29 18:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for | Mar 29 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" https://t.co/eHrPpa6l9e | Mar 29 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" | Mar 29 18:26 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: oh hi | Mar 29 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | just seen your message | Mar 29 18:31 |
| sebsebseb | seems a bit dead around here wehre's say MinceR | Mar 29 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: He's here. | Mar 29 18:32 |
| MinceR | right behind you. | Mar 29 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtube.com/watch?v=oSXqNqoFMfw | Mar 29 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Trump's Secret Weapon - YouTube | Mar 29 18:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenBSD 5.9 released (early!) | Mar 29 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5BKiVACbkm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenBSD 5.9 released (early!) | Tux Machines | Mar 29 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 Beta 4 https://t.co/eoTkS98zpH | Mar 29 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenShot 2.0 Beta 4 | Tux Machines | Mar 29 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for | Mar 29 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" https://t.co/qWHa3D933A | Mar 29 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" | Tux Machines | Mar 29 18:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon + AMDGPU Performance On Linux 4.6 | Mar 29 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GKUnH3WZFK (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 29 19:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Radeon + AMDGPU Performance On Linux 4.6 - Phoronix | Mar 29 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Has Power Management Improved With The Updates | Mar 29 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | To Fedora 23? https://t.co/Y8l5zHlvQW | Mar 29 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 29 19:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Has Power Management Improved With The Updates To Fedora 23? - Phoronix | Mar 29 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines darktable 2.0.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor | Mar 29 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lands with Support for Fujifilm X70 | Mar 29 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FbQ3fqU6bZ (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 19:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | darktable 2.0.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Lands with Support for Fujifilm X70 | Mar 29 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Mar 29 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wGeSQyaxK8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dominant in today's headlines after Easter | Mar 29 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Tux Machines | Mar 29 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: Amazon releases recipe for baking | Mar 29 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a low-cost Alexa voice assistant | Mar 29 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gT4P2CKnvm (www.zdnet.com) | Mar 29 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi: Amazon releases recipe for baking a low-cost Alexa voice assistant | ZDNet | Mar 29 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Linux Announcements | Mar 29 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oD6mOYe1g7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Linux Announcements | Tux Machines | Mar 29 19:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Open Source Blockchain | Mar 29 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/s6qetKU8T7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Open Source Blockchain | Tux Machines | Mar 29 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Mar 29 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/l6cUXy3Dkm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Tux Machines | Mar 29 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fans of The IT Crowd will love Google's latest | Mar 29 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android easter egg https://t.co/vCyBsY6pe2 | Mar 29 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.express.co.uk) | Mar 29 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Fans of The IT Crowd will love Google's latest Android easter egg | Tech | Life & Style | Daily Express | Mar 29 19:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Galaxy S7 compared to first Android phone, the | Mar 29 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | T-Mobile G1 https://t.co/0fvGvuY1HY | Mar 29 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) | Mar 29 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Galaxy S7 compared to first Android phone, the T-Mobile G1 - SlashGear | Mar 29 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Security Summit 2016 – CFP Announced! | Mar 29 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VJvnrLS82i (blog.namei.org) | Mar 29 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0SChpadIbl (lwn.net) | Mar 29 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.namei.org | Linux Security Summit 2016 – CFP Announced! | James Morris | Mar 29 19:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Tuesday's security updates [LWN.net] | Mar 29 19:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Game: Doodle Jump for Samsung Z1 and Z3 | Mar 29 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available in Tizen Store | Mar 29 19:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O9DUUdqEvB (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 29 19:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Game: Doodle Jump for Samsung Z1 and Z3 available in Tizen Store - Tizen Experts | Mar 29 19:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/714959185889337345 | Mar 29 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @AndroidPolice implicit admission of Microsoft's XPS format failure. cc/@schestowitz | Mar 29 19:47 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714949074672357377 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714949682506702848 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714950189128294402 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714951739280072704 | Mar 29 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi With respect, this is mistaken. 1) Filelocker uploads would be instantly detected: https://t.co/XIQznSsUBL. | Mar 29 19:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbc.ca | CSE tracks millions of downloads daily: Snowden documents - Canada - CBC News | Mar 29 19:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi 2) That they're using filelockers for comms -- of which monitoring was public -- underlines how little ISIS learns from news. | Mar 29 19:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi 3) From personal experience, nothing drew my interest more than encrypted traffic from a known target. It "glows on the wire." | Mar 29 19:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi 4) Remember: even w encrypted comms, metadata reveals *all* on-net activity. That comms happened? Always yes. Content of? no. | Mar 29 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714953206191767552 | Mar 29 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi Appreciate the new details in your reporting. Thanks for sharing. | Mar 29 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rixstepnews/status/714962715480039425 | Mar 29 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rixstepnews: @schestowitz Elaborate? @Snowden @wikileaks | Mar 29 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | Look up telesur argentina | Mar 29 19:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Security Summit 2016 – CFP Announced! ...' | Mar 29 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emmabuntus 3 1.03 Educational Linux Distro Is | Mar 29 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Xubuntu 14.04.4 LTS | Mar 29 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9gsrDHcdob (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Emmabuntus 3 1.03 Educational Linux Distro Is Based on Xubuntu 14.04.4 LTS | Mar 29 19:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear watches go chrono-a-chrono with | Mar 29 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apple Watch https://t.co/BLHYkuNSQy | Mar 29 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 29 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Android Wear watches go chrono-a-chrono with Apple Watch | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | I don’t trust tim cooke. | Mar 29 20:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189127 | Mar 29 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For its next ad, #apple -- like #microsoft before it -- will tell us it "loves Linux" and a has a boner for FOSS? First #privacy now this... | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/WEvjfz8Djd | Mar 29 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | "I don’t trust tim cooke." | Mar 29 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Software Releases https://t.co/zASaQ5rih0 | Mar 29 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Releases | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/59bVMUnmUx | Mar 29 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7190436 | Mar 29 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #democracy based on "Democrats" http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/wash_voters_descend_on_superdelegate_who_supports_clinton_20160328 | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truthdig.com | Washingtonians Hound Superdelegate Who Supports Clinton After Constituents Favored Sanders - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/opjnv ] | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | In case someone wonders. | Mar 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate | Mar 29 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Superdelegate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/opjnw ] | Mar 29 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rixstepnews/status/714972986651058177 | Mar 29 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rixstepnews: @schestowitz @Snowden @wikileaks Oh wow. Thx! | Mar 29 20:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Devices https://t.co/psrg9LeAu8 | Mar 29 21:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/BeCGSSFzAh | Mar 29 21:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MediaGoblin 0.9.0: The Three Goblineers | Mar 29 21:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MediaGoblin 0.9.0: The Three Goblineers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FFmpeg 3.0 "Einstein" Free Multimedia Backend | Mar 29 21:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 3.0 "Einstein" Free Multimedia Backend Gets Its First Point Release | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a "Hide Zero Values" Option, More | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email | Mar 29 21:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email service on Android | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release,...' | Mar 29 21:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/ ) | Mar 29 21:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Alpha Officially Released, Includes a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 21:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released - Phoronix | Mar 29 21:53 | |
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| MarkBilk | I'm back! | Mar 30 01:34 |
| MarkBilk | msb_ | Mar 30 01:34 |
| MarkBilk | leg injured; in rehab; using xchat on <gack> windows | Mar 30 01:38 |
| MarkBilk | anybody here? | Mar 30 01:38 |
| MarkBilk | wow hexchat is great! | Mar 30 01:48 |
| *amarsh04_ is here | Mar 30 01:49 | |
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| amarsh04 | need to restart, back soon | Mar 30 01:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bertboerland/status/715011092016185344 | Mar 30 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bertboerland: 2016. Bug 1 in Ubuntu's issueque has been closed. Yet: https://t.co/tXLiDlwyDx | Mar 30 03:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @petrakramer Scandalous: European Patent Office Serves Only Microsoft Customers With Filing Software https://t.co/2GGqfoUjTN … | Mar 30 03:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715069514602397696 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715069950424166401 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715070180649541632 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715070350531407872 | Mar 30 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz ... https://t.co/LwUXxQ2Ziq | Mar 30 03:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz ... https://t.co/LwUXxQ2Ziq | Mar 30 03:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz if you mean TeleSur, it ceased being independent media long ago, and began being ChavezTV... or PutinTV depending on the week. | Mar 30 03:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz the first couple of years after its launch was actually quite OK, sort of American PBS but w news segments from every country | Mar 30 03:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz and then one day that arrangement was killed and it began airing from Caracas. That's when the Vz govt party line kicked in... | Mar 30 03:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7193189 | Mar 30 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wonder what it'll take to do to #china secret services what @snowden did to #nsa - they already ban so many comm channels. Paranoia. | Mar 30 03:34 | |
| schestowitz | "US people pretended they were free and Snowden proved than not so there was a “shock”. Most Asian people do not pretend that so there is no need of a Chinese Snowden." | Mar 30 03:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715090790897356805 | Mar 30 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz But some go: "who cares? It's all profits!" Fees, procedures. Cost for some (the inventors) are gains for others you-know-who. | Mar 30 04:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715091623118561280 | Mar 30 04:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Being the Devil's advocate here, some patent office has behaved as that would be their aim too. | Mar 30 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | China? France? US? | Mar 30 04:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715096104644255744 | Mar 30 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Water, water....(well, some fire at US...) | Mar 30 04:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a "Hide...' | Mar 30 04:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email | Mar 30 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | service on Android https://t.co/3UgLXeWq5u | Mar 30 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 30 05:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email service on Android - TechRepublic | Mar 30 05:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 05:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9E6fLtJZ5 (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 05:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation Ships with GNOME 3.20 and Linux Kernel 4.5 - Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 05:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715109556544741376 | Mar 30 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: EEE at its most blatant. https://t.co/KhFKHwh15M | Mar 30 05:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft wants everyone to use spyware with a keylogger, even #gnu #linux users https://t.co/AlqIcrsRmW see https://t.co/IYnuzxS5H9 | Mar 30 05:37 | |
| cubexyz | just imagine the poor windows noobs with dialup downloading windows 10 in the background | Mar 30 05:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715115264497553410 | Mar 30 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Actually he does love (Bill) Clinton, or at least the membership fees he pays for Trump's golf club. | Mar 30 05:56 | |
| schestowitz | based on very old photos | Mar 30 05:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715116055023198209 | Mar 30 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Hash Brownie Bill was paying the fee as of 2015. I was reinforcing your point. | Mar 30 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715117151816912896 | Mar 30 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The only lesson History teaches us is that no one learns from her. https://t.co/U1lmVnZWXL | Mar 30 06:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft does not love Linux. Microsoft does not offer 'gifts' to Linux. Get used to it. Learn history. https://t.co/v9hqRQE5Aq | Mar 30 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines After a nasty computer virus, sys admin looks | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Linux | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2RSLWysJBW (opensource.com) | Mar 30 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Soumya Sarkar | Opensource.com | Mar 30 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Premium Android flip phone Gionee W909 unveiled | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iLUVE0XdiF (www.gsmarena.com) | Mar 30 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | Premium Android flip phone Gionee W909 unveiled - GSMArena.com news | Mar 30 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beware the Pis of March https://t.co/zjC7LzDOrp | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fossforce.com) | Mar 30 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Beware the Pis of March | FOSS Force | Mar 30 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged ARM module spec targets harsh | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | environments https://t.co/tl7xvttO4h | Mar 30 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged ARM module spec targets harsh environments | Mar 30 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/OOiOZG6NtO | Mar 30 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Mar 30 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines F-Droid, Copperhead, Guardian Project partner | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to create a security-focused, Android-based | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ecosystem https://t.co/fpWhPOPKVn | Mar 30 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | F-Droid, Copperhead, Guardian Project partner to create a security-focused, Android-based ecosystem | Tux Machines | Mar 30 06:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux is 25, Fedora 24 Alpha, Classy Apricity | Mar 30 06:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is 25, Fedora 24 Alpha, Classy Apricity | Tux Machines | Mar 30 06:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux alternatives to Windows XP | Mar 30 06:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux alternatives to Windows XP | Tux Machines | Mar 30 06:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/SBmWJ5kfEA | Mar 30 06:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 30 06:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build, Final | Mar 30 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release Launches April 1, 2016 | Mar 30 06:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IBN7536wF4 (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 06:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opo2t | Mar 30 06:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build, Final Release Launches April 1, 2016 | Mar 30 06:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194294 | Mar 30 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: After a nasty computer virus, sys admin looks to Linux https://opensource.com/life/16/3/my-linux-story-soumya-sarkar | Mar 30 06:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | My Linux Story: Soumya Sarkar | Opensource.com | Mar 30 06:12 | |
| schestowitz | I’m looking for ways to open up people’s eyes. I’m using GNU/Linux since 2003 and I’m loving it. | Mar 30 06:12 |
| schestowitz | I stopped assistance (for friends and family) for windows/osx machines and in stead I offer lifetime guaranty on GNU/Linux. Until now nobody ever complained about the Linux Mint I installed on their machines. | Mar 30 06:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 06:12 |
| cubexyz | running Mint is hardly ideal | Mar 30 06:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194133 | Mar 30 06:14 |
| schestowitz | "nod. when I realized this, some 6 years ago, I started campaigning for Red Hat to turn its Patent Promise into an actual license, but no luck so far. until this major problem is fixed, no more patent applications from me..." | Mar 30 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When you work on #swpats for a company - no matter how benign a company - you never know who will get/use them? #redhat staff, take note. | Mar 30 06:14 | |
| schestowitz | With or without a promise, why spend one's life pursing patents that shouldn't exist in the first place? #swpats | Mar 30 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Inc (RHT) Upgraded to “Strong-Buy” by | Mar 30 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vetr Inc. https://t.co/KoQ6cyW574 | Mar 30 06:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.sfhfm.org) https://t.co/7BYUGGbRYX | Mar 30 06:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfhfm.org | Red Hat Inc (RHT) Upgraded to “Strong-Buy” by Vetr Inc. - South Florida Hedge Fund Managers | Mar 30 06:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standardtrib.com | How Analysts Rated Red Hat Inc (NYSE:RHT) Last Week? - Standard Tribune | Mar 30 06:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sMLa14lx1O (mybroadband.co.za) | Mar 30 06:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mybroadband.co.za | Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 06:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Linus Torvalds on not being a visionary - Business Insider | Mar 30 06:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest HTC 10 Teaser Says to Expect “Fastest | Mar 30 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Smoothest Android” Yet | Mar 30 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zdn8Zkoz5e (www.droid-life.com) | Mar 30 06:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opo4y | Mar 30 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com | Latest HTC 10 Teaser Says to Expect "Fastest and Smoothest Android" Yet | Droid Life | Mar 30 06:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 | Mar 30 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'soylentnews.org' ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 ) | Mar 30 06:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715130586298466304 | Mar 30 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: If you read through this you might begin to get a bit concerned about something... @schestowitz ... https://t.co/JZxkoTMDqL | Mar 30 07:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Drug Enforcement Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Mar 30 07:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #LVM Internals https://t.co/xy3s2fpOm8 | Mar 30 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mo.morsi.org) | Mar 30 07:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mo.morsi.org | LVM Internals | Morsi dot Org | Mar 30 07:09 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Mar 30 07:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 30 07:11 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/26/inside-netflix-how-reed-hastings-is-building-the-first-global-tv/ | Mar 30 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Inside Netflix: How Reed Hastings is building the first global TV network [ http://ur1.ca/opoau ] | Mar 30 07:11 | |
| schestowitz | Worrisome if anything... | Mar 30 07:11 |
| cubexyz | Mar 30 07:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 07:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Tux Machines | Mar 30 07:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Document Freedom Day, World Standards Day 2016 | Mar 30 07:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Document Freedom Day, World Standards Day 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 07:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 07:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 07:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora 24 Alpha | Techrights | Mar 30 07:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha Screenshot Tour https://t.co/M9E6fLtJZ5' | Mar 30 07:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation Ships with GNOME 3.20 and Linux Kernel 4.5 - Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 07:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build,...' | Mar 30 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/8x9lOA01s6 | Mar 30 08:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/SMNCxoy4gP | Mar 30 08:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zkIBTgVKq9 | Mar 30 08:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Mar 30 08:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5OCOCKxo3D (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 08:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/EHBJRrGg2h | Mar 30 08:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 08:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 08:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Mar 30 08:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zaurav/status/715164925702893568 | Mar 30 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zaurav: The Imperialists of the digital age. https://t.co/VfkNMCUnE0 | Mar 30 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/bTfL9jFew8 #microsoft #gnu #linux | Mar 30 09:22 | |
| Robert__ | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2452793/sco-vs-ibm-13-year-old-linux-dispute-returns-as-sco-files-new-appeal | Mar 30 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | SCO vs IBM: 13-year-old Linux dispute returns as SCO files new appeal- The Inquirer | Mar 30 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | hi | Mar 30 09:27 |
| schestowitz | oh, now this again... | Mar 30 09:28 |
| schestowitz | see, that's what I said last time they said it was finished... | Mar 30 09:28 |
| cubexyz | SCO is just pissing in the wind | Mar 30 09:28 |
| cubexyz | dismissed with prejudice even | Mar 30 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (techrights.org) | Mar 30 09:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora 24 Alpha | Techrights | Mar 30 09:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even | Mar 30 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/Ogof2Fbth4 | Mar 30 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 30 09:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? | Techrights | Mar 30 09:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/twitserra/status/715174424983564288 | Mar 30 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@twitserra: good text: https://t.co/50dksNV18t | Mar 30 10:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonatiuhmira/status/715174761802764288 | Mar 30 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 30 10:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonatiuhmira: #Microsoft Has Just #Blackmailed #Linux Twice in One Single Week https://t.co/RxJHtlzhuC | Mar 30 10:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/715166356891688960 | Mar 30 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BernieSanders: Too many Americans have seen their lives destroyed because they have criminal records as a result of marijuana use. | Mar 30 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/715192657174249472 | Mar 30 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz No way, they have had minutes of training in what to look for and what to do it they find it. | Mar 30 11:03 | |
| schestowitz | USB keys? | Mar 30 11:03 |
| schestowitz | USB keys? The latest attempt to catch/silence whistleblowers at #epo perhaps? | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-privacy-idUSKCN0WV111 | Mar 30 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Global majority backs a ban on 'dark net,' poll says | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/opqa7 ] | Mar 30 11:11 | |
| __martin__ | pre-sequel to | Mar 30 11:11 |
| __martin__ | https://www.rightscon.org/program/ | Mar 30 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rightscon.org | Program - RightsCon Summit Series | Mar 30 11:12 | |
| __martin__ | (= | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | hi | Mar 30 11:15 |
| __martin__ | geekings | Mar 30 11:15 |
| schestowitz | yes, heard of it | Mar 30 11:15 |
| __martin__ | schestowitz: atm following up the guardian's live blog on steel crisis in uk, funny how that secretary cancelled australia trip | Mar 30 11:16 |
| __martin__ | from ur diaspora wall I noticed earlier u like some actions of this mr. corbyn | Mar 30 11:16 |
| __martin__ | he's opposition as I understand | Mar 30 11:17 |
| __martin__ | in slovakia I got steelmills some 70km from my residential place, owned by U.S. connections, they had cuts earlier on and four day work week | Mar 30 11:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2016/03/01/sco-over-and-out/ | Mar 30 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If This is (Really) the End of SCO, Don’t Forget Who Funded and Supported SCO’s 13-Year-Long Attacks on Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/opqdg ] | Mar 30 11:19 | |
| amarsh04 | the steel mill about 400 km from here has been under financial pressure also | Mar 30 11:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Danover/status/715196917966196736 | Mar 30 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Danover: @BernieSanders @schestowitz And we'll do it by importing more unemployed. | Mar 30 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/Ogof2Fbth4 | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Mar 30 11:25 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define...' | Mar 30 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? | Techrights | Mar 30 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, | Mar 30 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KsWM9E2QUA (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 11:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 11:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines World's first Ubuntu tablet goes up for | Mar 30 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pre-order at £200 https://t.co/FQzoEdXJ0f | Mar 30 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theinquirer.net) https://t.co/dMgPVhOBW3 | Mar 30 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.christianpost.com) | Mar 30 11:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | World's first Ubuntu tablet goes up for pre-order at £200- The Inquirer | Mar 30 11:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christianpost.com | BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Now Available for Pre-Order, Starting Price at $291.99 | Mar 30 11:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/715200901447716864 | Mar 30 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@theGuruWithin: .@schestowitz #Bouya! EXCELLENT no content is worth bullshit of ads by force | Mar 30 11:37 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715150625626013697 | Mar 30 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Is there a EU Patent? Esiste un brevetto EU? https://t.co/ezuptHMwrf | Mar 30 11:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Gibt es ein EU-Patent? https://t.co/9PgEUGmtJq | Mar 30 11:41 | |
| schestowitz | maybe they're shuffling/renaming UPC again... | Mar 30 11:41 |
| schestowitz | I can arrange that with the GIMP ;-) | Mar 30 12:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194226 | Mar 30 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft to #gnu #linux developers: like #ubuntu more than Windows? Try #vista10 for free, stick around later. We'll watch you. | Mar 30 12:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | Why does Microsoft give away their OS for free while we had to pay for it for years? | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | They see it’s more important to have people using their product (for collecting data you need users) than that they actually buy the OS. Google and Apple saw that years ago. | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194310 | Mar 30 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft EEE with #mono inside #debian and #ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/images/1/10/Mono-the-trojan.png so who was right about Mono after all? ;-) Now #microsoft ware | Mar 30 12:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh no! More free software is available! | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | (Mono has been in Debian and Ubuntu for years) | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | A Microsoft employee put Mono in #debian and #ubuntu | Mar 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mcit.gov.cy/mcit/mcit.nsf/dmlcv_en/dmlcv_en?OpenDocument | Mar 30 12:08 |
| schestowitz | "In 2003 he was the first employee hired by Microsoft in Cyprus, entrusted with developing the company’s operations in the country. After five years of rapid growth, his duties expanded to the position of Managing Director for Microsoft Cyprus and Malta, while in November 2011 he was appointed Public Sector Director at Microsoft Central & Eastern Europe, with the mandate of developing the company’s operations in 24 countries. " | Mar 30 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcit.gov.cy | Ministry of Energy, Commerce, Industry and Tourism - Curriculum Vitae [ http://ur1.ca/opr6h ] | Mar 30 12:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194495 | Mar 30 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Romanians Sent to Prison After Corruption Over Microsoft Licences in Schools https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 #microsoft #corruption #gnu #linux | Mar 30 12:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'soylentnews.org' ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 ) | Mar 30 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | "In Cyprus they are pushing Office365 “for free” in schools. But that’s OK. Microsoft have their own Minister in the President’s cabinet." | Mar 30 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | "It’s quite the same in Croatia: “budget” or no cost licences for students and academia, heavy influence on what gets taught and how at universities and - surprise, surprise - a heavy, many-digit government contract for licences for Win and Office for government machines. Extramadura, München…so close, but so far away…" | Mar 30 12:10 |
| lirodon | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/ eew seriously | Mar 30 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/opr7r ] | Mar 30 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | yeah... | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | see bug #1 | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu's | Mar 30 12:11 |
| lirodon | But what even is the point? You can already run GTK programs on Windows | Mar 30 12:12 |
| lirodon | and QT and so on | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | so it's nothing worth noting | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | publicity stunt mostly | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | and also, there are already tools for this | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | re openssh | Mar 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | there was already putty | Mar 30 12:12 |
| lirodon | although people were saying that they're trying to do bash on Windows | Mar 30 12:12 |
| MinceR | they want the windows clone and windows together in one package | Mar 30 12:13 |
| MinceR | in this case, the windows clone that wants to look like macos | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | they want to turn Linux into a "Windows app" | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | for it to stay there | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | and nobody will need to install this "Commie software" | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | just buy Vista 10 | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | or get a machine with it | Mar 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | and MS will tell regulators, look, we love Linux... | Mar 30 12:14 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ can move the rest of windows into cancerd | Mar 30 12:15 |
| schestowitz | heh | Mar 30 12:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's a Windows project | Mar 30 12:15 |
| schestowitz | we just don't know it yet ;-p | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | hey, april 1st is coming | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | wannt write some funny thing about it | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | (even short)? | Mar 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/715210580089565184 | Mar 30 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: Roy doesn't realise that patent lawyers don't file patents in Europe 😂 https://t.co/phkdb3C1Ii | Mar 30 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A lot patent lawyers just want it the easy way; they want to bombard the system with patents (not applications) and not ever face rejection. | Mar 30 12:18 | |
| lirodon | so yes, it's Bash that's the collaboration | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what gnu devs think of it... | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | bashdows | Mar 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, ubuntu uses dash | Mar 30 12:19 |
| lirodon | ""Windows is the home for multi-platform developers."" [citation needed] | Mar 30 12:19 |
| MinceR | i have no idea for april fool jokes | Mar 30 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | Multi-platform development: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Update 1, Windows 10. | Mar 30 12:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 12:23 |
| MinceR | supports any platform you want, as long as that platform is winders | Mar 30 12:23 |
| XRevan86 | Supports any platform you want. If it's not Windows, you don't want it. | Mar 30 12:23 |
| schestowitz | lirodon: who wrote that? | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | MS, Mary Jo Foley, SJVN? | Mar 30 12:24 |
| lirodon | The Verge liveblog of things being said at the keynote | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | because that's a lie | Mar 30 12:24 |
| lirodon | a MS guy basically | Mar 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | that's like Apple's lie about Open Source credit | Mar 30 12:25 |
| XRevan86 | Are there any details on what bash Microsoft is going to include? | Mar 30 12:27 |
| MinceR | what, PowerHell isn't good enough anymore? | Mar 30 12:27 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: woah woah | Mar 30 12:27 |
| XFaCE | you are saying http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Mar 30 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/oprhb ] | Mar 30 12:28 | |
| XFaCE | Isn't april fools? | Mar 30 12:28 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 30 12:28 |
| MinceR | does winblows also fail at keeping the calendar working and the m$ munchkins at zdnet believe it was already the 1st? | Mar 30 12:29 |
| XFaCE | "With this new addition, Ubuntu users will be able to run Ubuntu simultaneously with Windows. This will not be in a virtual machine, but as an integrated part of Windows 10. " | Mar 30 12:30 |
| XFaCE | For fuck's sake, this has been done BEFORE!! | Mar 30 12:30 |
| XFaCE | andLinux/coLinux | Mar 30 12:30 |
| XFaCE | nothing fucking new | Mar 30 12:30 |
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| MinceR | if it wasn't done before, why would m$ be interested in doing it? | Mar 30 12:31 |
| XRevan86 | I'm wondering because GPLv3 | Mar 30 12:31 |
| XRevan86 | No way Microsoft is gonna put something on GPLv3 into Windows | Mar 30 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | so… what they'll put then? | Mar 30 12:32 |
| XFaCE | Embrace Extend Extinguish | Mar 30 12:32 |
| XFaCE | over and over | Mar 30 12:32 |
| XFaCE | FFS | Mar 30 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | bash 3.x that is on GPLv2+ like Apple does? | Mar 30 12:32 |
| lirodon | Canonical CLAs | Mar 30 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/715214695012106241 https://twitter.com/nileshgr/status/715214756353683457 | Mar 30 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @dinabass @vitali_giuseppe https://t.co/wqUBN9P6Vc | Mar 30 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 30 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nileshgr: @jainrounak https://t.co/BRg0pP7FvG | Mar 30 12:34 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Great, now that Microsoft is allowing ubuntu to run on Windows, I'm awaiting the reciprocation of Windows being ported to Ubuntu | Mar 30 12:34 |
| XFaCE | ... | Mar 30 12:34 |
| MinceR | that has already begun | Mar 30 12:34 |
| XFaCE | ... | Mar 30 12:34 |
| XFaCE | that's what I thought | Mar 30 12:34 |
| MinceR | systemd, kdbus, networkmanager, gnome | Mar 30 12:34 |
| XFaCE | :P | Mar 30 12:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: not exactly what I meant :P | Mar 30 12:34 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: I bet Microsoft will be do a few contribs to Wine in good faith | Mar 30 12:35 |
| XFaCE | hahahaahaahahahahaa | Mar 30 12:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 12:35 |
| XFaCE | "22 minutes ago | Mar 30 12:35 |
| XFaCE | Biggest applause line of the day: BASH shell coming to Windows. #Build2016 | Mar 30 12:35 |
| XFaCE | " | Mar 30 12:35 |
| XFaCE | It's 2016 guys!! | Mar 30 12:35 |
| XFaCE | ugh | Mar 30 12:35 |
| MinceR | >$(date +%Y) | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | [17:35] <XFaCE> MinceR: I bet Microsoft will be do a few contribs to Wine in good faith | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | They own mono now | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | and there's a connection to wine | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | IIRC | Mar 30 12:36 |
| MinceR | and they believe they own "linux" | Mar 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | they did it 10 years ago | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz | the Novell deakl | Mar 30 12:37 |
| MinceR | i ran bash on winblows ages ago, via cygwin | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz | in Easter 2007 Novell dumped the docs (just before the long weekend) | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz | Wine was mentioned | Mar 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jaazannos/status/715216424357076992 | Mar 30 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaazannos: @schestowitz yes it is true. Canonical and Microsoft partner to supply choice to developers. | Mar 30 12:38 | |
| schestowitz | ha | Mar 30 12:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz | choice.... controlled from the Windows side | Mar 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz | not the other way | Mar 30 12:38 |
| MinceR | hobson's choice, that is | Mar 30 12:38 |
| MinceR | you get a telescreen running our backdoors, or you get no access to computers or the web | Mar 30 12:38 |
| XFaCE | isn't funny, how all this "FOSS" co-operation by Microsoft, always leads back to benefitting their proprietary platforms | Mar 30 12:38 |
| MinceR | is current bash GPLv3 or GPLv3+? | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz | they use dash | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz | (in Ubuntu) | Mar 30 12:39 |
| MinceR | if the latter, watch out for m$ donations to FSF | Mar 30 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: GPLv3+ | Mar 30 12:39 |
| MinceR | great | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz | oh, dear, MS money on FSF table | Mar 30 12:39 |
| MinceR | look out for the GPLv4, the new, m$-friendly GPL | Mar 30 12:39 |
| schestowitz | jgay: don't take it ;-) | Mar 30 12:39 |
| MinceR | good thing i never assigned copyrights to FSF | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: dash is used as /bin/sh but not the default shell. | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft will just make their own proprietary bash | Mar 30 12:40 |
| MinceR | or used the "or newer" clause | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XFaCE | BASH.COM | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XFaCE | sorry | Mar 30 12:40 |
| schestowitz | bash.exe? | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XFaCE | Bash.NET | Mar 30 12:40 |
| MinceR | nah, they can't make it fit in 64k | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: dash is not really a usable shell. | Mar 30 12:40 |
| schestowitz | bash.MSI | Mar 30 12:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: command.com reference | Mar 30 12:40 |
| lirodon | "For over 30 years Windows has welcomed an open ecosystem of hardware and software partners. Nothing changes with the Universal Windows platform." | Mar 30 12:40 |
| schestowitz | double click, follow the wizard | Mar 30 12:40 |
| MinceR | bash.exe, requiring .net | Mar 30 12:40 |
| schestowitz | they'll need to rename it | Mar 30 12:41 |
| lirodon | "yeah right. It's not an open ecosystem if you have to go through their walled garden first | Mar 30 12:41 |
| XFaCE | [12:40:46]<lirodon> "For over 30 years Windows has welcomed an open ecosystem of hardware and software partners. Nothing changes with the Universal Windows platform." | Mar 30 12:41 |
| lirodon | it's automatically a closed ecosystem | Mar 30 12:41 |
| XFaCE | read between the lines as always | Mar 30 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise Operator Deluxe 2016 | Mar 30 12:41 |
| MinceR | hell, even a non-m$ bash won't fit in 64k | Mar 30 12:41 |
| XFaCE | When Microsoft talks about "portability" and "univeral platforms" | Mar 30 12:41 |
| XFaCE | they don't mean ease of porting to other operating systems or other languages/libraries | Mar 30 12:41 |
| XFaCE | they mean ease of porting proprietary Windows to more hardware | Mar 30 12:42 |
| XFaCE | Java is designed to be OS and hardware-agnostic | Mar 30 12:42 |
| MinceR | they mean difficulty of avoiding running or paying for winders | Mar 30 12:42 |
| XFaCE | .NET is only the latter | Mar 30 12:42 |
| XRevan86 | XFaCE: Ease of porting from other operating systems or other languages/libraries | Mar 30 12:42 |
| cubexyz | uhhh, no for 30 years windows has not welcomed an "open ecosystem" | Mar 30 12:42 |
| XFaCE | XRevan86: exactly | Mar 30 12:42 |
| cubexyz | exactly the opposite | Mar 30 12:42 |
| lirodon | http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx some details on that bash thing | Mar 30 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hanselman.com | Developers can run Bash Shell and user-mode Ubuntu Linux binaries on Windows 10 - Scott Hanselman [ http://ur1.ca/oprp7 ] | Mar 30 12:43 | |
| XFaCE | Microsoft's platforms are basically parasites | Mar 30 12:43 |
| MinceR | a good fit for m$, who are also parasites | Mar 30 12:43 |
| lirodon | It was open _per se_ because MS didn't regulate how certain styles of programs are packaged/distributed. | Mar 30 12:43 |
| XFaCE | Absorb other projects, and spread | Mar 30 12:43 |
| lirodon | but now they've succumb to the locked down mobile platform fixation which is a problem all its own | Mar 30 12:45 |
| cubexyz | 30 years ago was kind of a mess actually | Mar 30 12:45 |
| cubexyz | Xenix, Desqview dos-extenders, SunOS, etc | Mar 30 12:46 |
| cubexyz | I guess I should also include Amiga in that time period | Mar 30 12:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: The media that are saying, this helps "developers" | Mar 30 12:47 |
| XFaCE | no, this helps WINDOWS developers | Mar 30 12:47 |
| MinceR | no, this helps m$ | Mar 30 12:47 |
| XFaCE | well both | Mar 30 12:47 |
| XFaCE | it helps Windows devs give more flamewar bait as to why they aren't switching to Linux | Mar 30 12:48 |
| XFaCE | Point is, this doesn't help Linux/BSD devs whatsoever | Mar 30 12:48 |
| cubexyz | 30 years ago you still saw some PDP-11, PDP-10 stuff | Mar 30 12:48 |
| XFaCE | yet the new is phrased in a way that suggests it will | Mar 30 12:48 |
| schestowitz | yes, a little more like, look... Vista 10... it has EVERYTHING | Mar 30 12:53 |
| schestowitz | Boss, can I install Linux? | Mar 30 12:53 |
| schestowitz | Boss: sure, install Vista 10 | Mar 30 12:53 |
| schestowitz | But... | Mar 30 12:53 |
| cubexyz | usually tools that do everything don't any one thing particularly well | Mar 30 12:55 |
| cubexyz | s/don't/don't do/ | Mar 30 12:56 |
| MinceR | well, if it has cancerd, it has everything | Mar 30 12:56 |
| MinceR | all of it broken, though | Mar 30 12:57 |
| cubexyz | most people I know are avoiding windows 10 | Mar 30 12:57 |
| schestowitz | yeah, rightly so | Mar 30 12:57 |
| schestowitz | they hear bad things | Mar 30 12:57 |
| schestowitz | the harder Microsoft pushes, the more backlash | Mar 30 12:57 |
| schestowitz | they damage their credibility (what's left of it among some people) | Mar 30 12:58 |
| cubexyz | as I said earlier, for people still on dialup it's hellish :) | Mar 30 12:58 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so I guess they are trying to distract with this shit | Mar 30 12:58 |
| schestowitz | Ignore #microsoft as it throws around misleading and meaningless numbers. The company has done this for decades. Always lying. Because "marketing". | Mar 30 12:58 |
| MinceR | is it even possible to damage m$'s credibility with the people they have it with? | Mar 30 12:58 |
| MinceR | it's a cult at this point | Mar 30 12:59 |
| MinceR | just like crApple | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | young people | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | they grew up with another kind of media | Mar 30 12:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Remember how MS made a big deal about their contribs to Linux, when in fact the only reason they were so large was because the commits were garbage and had to be fixed over and over? | Mar 30 12:59 |
| MinceR | they do all sorts of horribly evil things and it just makes the cultists love them even more | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | so to them the real antitrust stuff is just history that predated them | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yes, and for PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE AND.... | Mar 30 12:59 |
| MinceR | even so, the hype-v code in linux sucks | Mar 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | GPL VIOLATIONS!!! | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz | Hyper-V | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz | They got caught, then pretended they means to open it all along | Mar 30 13:00 |
| MinceR | and funnily enough, the particular bit i remember happens to be incompatible with cancer-d | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz | to change history a little | Mar 30 13:00 |
| MinceR | s/r-d/rd/ | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz | Hey, maybe hypervisor is next on LP's agenda | Mar 30 13:00 |
| schestowitz | They shall calll it --- TADA --- hyperd | Mar 30 13:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 13:00 |
| MinceR | cancerd already contains some sort of hypervisor tool | Mar 30 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Red hat is a cancerd that attaches itself... | Mar 30 13:01 |
| XFaCE | what a great deal | Mar 30 13:02 |
| XFaCE | we get the stupid Windows mentalities and flawed practices, they get the actual technology | Mar 30 13:03 |
| cubexyz | when I talk to younger folks I can definitely feel the generation gap | Mar 30 13:03 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: I'VE GOT NOTHING TO HIDE STOP WORRYING | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: you can hear it now | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz | "app" this, "app" that | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz | even some adults start talking like fools | Mar 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz | those who "discovered" computing because of their "smart" [sic] phone | Mar 30 13:04 |
| MinceR | that would be because most "adults" are fools | Mar 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz | not all of them | Mar 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I also know kids who are bright | Mar 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz | it's not an age phenomenon | Mar 30 13:04 |
| MinceR | the human species is a horrible mess at this point | Mar 30 13:04 |
| MinceR | the greatest threat to its own survival | Mar 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz | well, see how many vote Trump | Mar 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz | and half of D's also still vote Clinton | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | which tells you quite a lot | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | either the media hides the alternatives well or the alternatives' messaging isn't effective enough | Mar 30 13:05 |
| cubexyz | do younger people still build their own PCs? I have my doubts | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | we had Tories RE-elected here | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | AFTER all the mess they had done | Mar 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: they don't have PCs | Mar 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | they buy consoles | Mar 30 13:06 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: that said, the FPTP voting sucks | Mar 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | with DRM and "cloud" to download from | Mar 30 13:06 |
| XFaCE | and UK still has it | Mar 30 13:06 |
| cubexyz | I'm worried people don't learn the basics: electronics, binary, hexadecimal, boolean logic, etc | Mar 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz | they learn 'apps' | Mar 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz | and 'smart' things | Mar 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | and they save their 'docs' (OOXML) on the 'cloud' | Mar 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | and they let the DevOps worry about it | Mar 30 13:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: And they learn "don't worry, just use Windows' SSH client" | Mar 30 13:11 |
| XFaCE | "Windows has everything you need" | Mar 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | should be called SH | Mar 30 13:12 |
| XFaCE | SHit | Mar 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz | There's no secure when you have back doors in the OS | Mar 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz | NSA just pulls up your private keys | Mar 30 13:12 |
| XFaCE | and keyloggers records the passphrases | Mar 30 13:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, if you're doing to be paranoid you need to talk about BIOS too :) | Mar 30 13:14 |
| cubexyz | s/doing/going/ | Mar 30 13:14 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: what we are seeing is basically the ultimate evolution of Ballmer's ideal of having all FOSS development on top of Windows | Mar 30 13:15 |
| XFaCE | Windows will be the proprietary blackbox that runs all you need | Mar 30 13:15 |
| XFaCE | "need" | Mar 30 13:15 |
| cubexyz | I should point out that's merely one blackbox | Mar 30 13:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: well other blackboxes on top :) | Mar 30 13:15 |
| cubexyz | does your ISP let you run servers? :) | Mar 30 13:16 |
| cubexyz | does your TV provider encrypt everything? | Mar 30 13:17 |
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| XFaCE | :P | Mar 30 13:18 |
| XFaCE | my point is, this is just a continuation of the "Windows is the platform for everything else or else" mentality | Mar 30 13:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, | Mar 30 13:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 13:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FF1hL48ZlI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 13:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oprxo | Mar 30 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:19 | |
| cubexyz | right, but a swiss army knife with two dozen implements is unwieldy | Mar 30 13:25 |
| MinceR | actually my swiss army knife works better than anything m$ or canonical has ever came up with | Mar 30 13:25 |
| cubexyz | anyway bash is GPL right? so if M$ uses it they have to make the sources available | Mar 30 13:26 |
| MinceR | someone said it had an "or later" clause | Mar 30 13:26 |
| MinceR | so all they need to do is bribe the FSF to make GPLv4 | Mar 30 13:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If you can't trust Stallman, whom you can? | Mar 30 13:27 |
| MinceR | myself | Mar 30 13:27 |
| cubexyz | people don't really want win10: | Mar 30 13:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt | Mar 30 13:28 |
| cubexyz | you lose too much control over your computer | Mar 30 13:29 |
| XFaCE | well as you said cubexyz , it's all about APPS with these users these days | Mar 30 13:30 |
| cubexyz | I didn't say that but ok :) | Mar 30 13:30 |
| XFaCE | actually managaing updates? that's lame | Mar 30 13:30 |
| XFaCE | paraphrasing then :P | Mar 30 13:30 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: was it you or schestowitz ? | Mar 30 13:31 |
| XFaCE | about youth and apps | Mar 30 13:31 |
| cubexyz | probably schestowitz | Mar 30 13:31 |
| *XFaCE doesn't bother scrolling up | Mar 30 13:31 | |
| XFaCE | fuck that! | Mar 30 13:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Mar 30 13:31 |
| cubexyz | I got a million stories about win10 | Mar 30 13:31 |
| XFaCE | "bu-bu-bu Linux crashes too!!" | Mar 30 13:32 |
| cubexyz | I just said there was a bit of a generation gap (when I talk to younger computer folks) | Mar 30 13:32 |
| MinceR | "...thanks to our buddies at red hat" | Mar 30 13:32 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-yet-another-bug.txt | Mar 30 13:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, last one...... for now :) | Mar 30 13:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Build Service and GNOME 3.20 | Mar 30 13:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Build Service and GNOME 3.20 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Mar 30 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo (techrights.org) | Mar 30 13:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Techrights | Mar 30 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715231292045004801 https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715232194432790533 https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715233188994555904 | Mar 30 13:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @extra3 @schestowitz Here's the Erdogan extra3 clip with English subtitles (click onto the icon below to activate the subtitles). | Mar 30 13:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Original by Nena https://t.co/QB5eRJENbt | Mar 30 13:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Nena - Irgendwie Irgendwo Irgendwann (Original 1984) - YouTube | Mar 30 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | " Roy, here the English subtitled version. I am really looking forward to the Battistelli version of the clip." | Mar 30 13:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715234724051042304 | Mar 30 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz and a video ??? | Mar 30 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Puri_sm/status/715236995501416450 | Mar 30 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Puri_sm: Frightening? https://t.co/iqU8ZvrW2a | Mar 30 14:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 14:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 14:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TechJournalist favourited 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 14:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/hanevel/status/715245516884459520 | Mar 30 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hanevel: @schestowitz Why on Earth would anyone having any knowledge of decent OS-es even consider that possibility? | Mar 30 14:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Mar 30 14:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo (techrights.org) | Mar 30 14:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza | Mar 30 14:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Android smartphone and barcode reader | Mar 30 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comes in a 10-oz. package | Mar 30 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | This Android smartphone and barcode reader comes in a 10-oz. package | Computerworld | Mar 30 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Digikam updated in area51 | Mar 30 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nmvui9D78U (euroquis.nl) | Mar 30 14:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse...' | Mar 30 14:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Mar 30 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1mzuFhYdY4 (dot.kde.org) | Mar 30 14:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB (m.phys.org) "the best | Mar 30 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | known example is the Linux operating system." | Mar 30 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | Digikam updated in area51 | Bobulate | Mar 30 14:58 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | KDE.news | Mar 30 14:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 14:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/715251107837190149 | Mar 30 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz The UK hypocrites? How dare you Sir, step outside, we shall settle this with a game of marbles! | Mar 30 14:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lordbaco retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 14:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux | Mar 30 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev https://t.co/nPgCNdaS5D | Mar 30 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Techrights | Mar 30 15:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev - Phoronix | Mar 30 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza' | Mar 30 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/715215714181902336 | Mar 30 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Even if you don't agree with @evgenymorozov, you should read him. Rare, original thinking. https://t.co/kT3RTjgLhY https://t.co/3WJ0wMl65r | Mar 30 15:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The state has lost control: tech firms now run western politics | Opinion | The Guardian | Mar 30 15:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Even if you don't agree with @evgenymorozov, you should read him. Rare, original thinking. https://t.co/kT3RTjgLhY https://t.co/3WJ0wMl65r | Mar 30 15:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @vincentzimmer favourited 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 15:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix followed @tuxmachines | Mar 30 15:10 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7196018 | Mar 30 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | "“I would love to see everyone pay for our product, and allow us to monetize their details by selling their very keystrokes to the government of our choice.”" | Mar 30 15:17 |
| schestowitz | "i woke up to this news and i was like OK this is going to be one of those bad day." | Mar 30 15:17 |
| schestowitz | "All these open source innovation has made Windows unnecessary and outdated…just like Ballmer is. :)" | Mar 30 15:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7195629 | Mar 30 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know a project is screwed when getting something from its very owner (steering/control) is called "donation" http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/applied-micro-provides-arm-boost-to-opensuse-build-service-for-linux.html | Mar 30 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Dude, ur post are getting better and better." | Mar 30 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.serverwatch.com | Applied Micro Provides ARM Boost to openSUSE Build Service for Linux [ http://ur1.ca/opslb ] | Mar 30 15:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7195394 | Mar 30 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Congressman Wants To Make Attacking A Cop A Federal 'Hate' Crime https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160328/08115734031/congressman-wants-to-make-attacking-cop-federal-hate-crime.shtml martial law 3.0. | Mar 30 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Honestly, I don’t know what is going to happen to this country." | Mar 30 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Congressman Wants To Make Attacking A Cop A Federal 'Hate' Crime | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/opslm ] | Mar 30 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | See Mexico... | Mar 30 15:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189238 | Mar 30 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese" Donald Rump http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/28/3762742/trump-rhetoric-2/ acting like a Clown | Mar 30 15:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thinkprogress.org | Donald Trump May Sound Like A Clown, But He Is A Rhetoric Pro Like Cicero | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/opnlk ] | Mar 30 15:19 | |
| schestowitz | I wonder what do people mean with Anarchism but I’m too lazy to read. | Mar 30 15:19 |
| schestowitz | I’m visiting my house in Redneck Town and anarchy is what it comes to my mind. Here people could virtually do whatever they want. Do you feel like closing a street? Roaming the town blasting the most tasteless music you could find? What about blasting music from your house? Maybe having two or three dogs in a 12 square meters backyard barking day and night? Yes, you can bet you could do it. | Mar 30 15:19 |
| schestowitz | What about taking public property as if it were yours? Putting fire to your plot of land? Not paying utilities or taxes? Having a blacksmith shop in a residential area? Firing off crackers whenever you like? Howling and screaming any time you feel? Yes, sure you can! | Mar 30 15:19 |
| schestowitz | I really dislike a corrupt government, but having to choose between that and no government I prefer a lot more the government. I’m yet to see people behaving properly and respectfully, not to mention actually helping the others, without a strong punishing authority. | Mar 30 15:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Some of these issues are due to overpopulation | Mar 30 15:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB (m.phys.org) "the best | Mar 30 15:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/715258616769548288 | Mar 30 15:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Journalists should ask #epo (probably its PR 'firewall') two questions:1) why is President's contract secret?2) why are IT contracts secret? | Mar 30 15:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux | Mar 30 15:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Mar 30 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bodhilinux.com | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Bodhi Linux | Mar 30 17:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've | Mar 30 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ever seen, coming to Linux on April 1st | Mar 30 17:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've ever seen, coming to Linux on April 1st | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 17:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Alejandro32/status/715285270766051328 | Mar 30 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Alejandro32: How can you have Open Source systems on top of a proprietary & privacy adverse system such as Windows? https://t.co/FqcPV9YLCU" | Mar 30 17:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 17:13 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not exactly sure if Ubuntu on Windows long term will do Windows a lot of good. | Mar 30 17:17 |
| oiaohm | Please remember its lot like IBM failed idea of OS/warp running win16 binaries. | Mar 30 17:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: developers don't want to maintain any extra binaries if they don't have to. If Windows runs Linux and Linux runs Linux exactly why maintain windows binary. | Mar 30 17:19 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: so the question is who is EEE who. | Mar 30 17:19 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what uefi and intel boot guard are for | Mar 30 17:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes those would be in higher EEE risk. | Mar 30 17:23 |
| oiaohm | But remember OS with most of the common applications is the one OEM/ODM are most likely to install. | Mar 30 17:24 |
| MinceR | and m$ has the OEM/ODMs' nuts in a vise | Mar 30 17:24 |
| oiaohm | This is why I see this Ubuntu on Windows as just as big of risk for Microsoft. | Mar 30 17:25 |
| oiaohm | If ubuntu on windows results in less programs being Windows native hello trouble. | Mar 30 17:25 |
| oiaohm | I also note that Microsoft so far is making it a Windows 10 thing thinking that line and other things prove that Windows 7 and earlier could be made do this stuff as well. | Mar 30 17:26 |
| oiaohm | So you could call this desperation to move Windows 10. | Mar 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | desperation to get the backdoors and spyware on as many PCs as possible | Mar 30 17:28 |
| MinceR | and now you can get another NSA backdoor via ubuntu | Mar 30 17:29 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: if it desperation means Microsoft will fail to handle the long term risks correctly. | Mar 30 17:32 |
| MinceR | it might be too late for the human species by then | Mar 30 17:33 |
| oiaohm | Depends who gets on board. | Mar 30 17:34 |
| oiaohm | Just think if valve uses the subsystem. So now Steam OS games run on Windows without having a Windows binary. | Mar 30 17:34 |
| MinceR | and will still be locked to winblows using winblows libraries | Mar 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | just the way m$ would have it | Mar 30 17:35 |
| oiaohm | Remember common arguement for games not being ported to Linux is wine exists. | Mar 30 17:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: elf binaries that Ubuntu on windows is running are totally not modified and still use the normal dependencies. | Mar 30 17:36 |
| MinceR | for now | Mar 30 17:36 |
| oiaohm | xming works on Windows. | Mar 30 17:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've...' | Mar 30 17:37 | |
| MinceR | remember what m$ attempted to do to java | Mar 30 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Mar 30 17:37 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note the word attempted. | Mar 30 17:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, some of the laws applied to m$ back then | Mar 30 17:37 |
| MinceR | they no longer do | Mar 30 17:37 |
| oiaohm | Extending Java end up microsoft being forced to go and make .Net. | Mar 30 17:37 |
| oiaohm | In fact even before the legal case Microsoft java was not doing to well. | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was forced to offer winblows versions without ie and wmp? | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was forced to give users a choice of browser? | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was fined for abusing their monopoly? | Mar 30 17:39 |
| cubexyz | yes :) | Mar 30 17:40 |
| oiaohm | I remember all that but microsoft EEE extending existing ABI/API has mostly not worked well for them. | Mar 30 17:40 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 attempted extentions in the OS/2 subsystem no application in production ever used. | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | now m$ doesn't even get a warning for their uefi abuse | Mar 30 17:41 |
| oiaohm | Same happened to most of the Java extension | Mar 30 17:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the means to delete the Platform Key and load your own come out of threat of legal action. | Mar 30 17:41 |
| MinceR | so they got off that lightly | Mar 30 17:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so your statement that Microsoft is not getting warnings is wrong. | Mar 30 17:42 |
| MinceR | and they keep closing the gates | Mar 30 17:42 |
| cubexyz | did the DOJ do nothing about UEFI? | Mar 30 17:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: DOJ did threaten Intel did change things. | Mar 30 17:43 |
| oiaohm | Intel and Microsoft did change things. | Mar 30 17:43 |
| cubexyz | such as? | Mar 30 17:43 |
| cubexyz | seems like racketerring when you think about it | Mar 30 17:44 |
| oiaohm | first UEFI did not include disable secure boot option. DOJ yelled about that so disable secure boot was added. The DOJ yelled about user not being able to set own signing keys so now we have delete platform key option. | Mar 30 17:44 |
| oiaohm | So its not that DOJ has done nothing. | Mar 30 17:45 |
| oiaohm | Just the end result has not been userfriendly. | Mar 30 17:45 |
| cubexyz | ah, so it could have been even worse then | Mar 30 17:46 |
| MinceR | and it will be, too | Mar 30 17:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: DOJ intervention has limited how bad it can get. | Mar 30 17:46 |
| oiaohm | Now we need DOJ to complain that it should be userfriendly process. | Mar 30 17:47 |
| cubexyz | can we complain to the DOJ? | Mar 30 17:48 |
| oiaohm | Not like it going to change much at moment. Intel and others in UEFI are still attempting to design how key can be added in a sane way. | Mar 30 17:49 |
| MinceR | now they're concerned about sanity? | Mar 30 17:51 |
| MinceR | after coming up with the monstrosity known as UEFI? | Mar 30 17:51 |
| MinceR | and locking it into the hardware with "intel boot guard"? | Mar 30 17:51 |
| cubexyz | at least there is chromebooks/boxes | Mar 30 17:51 |
| oiaohm | old BIOS before UEFI was also insane mess of lets add hardware support drivers on end of bios image. | Mar 30 17:52 |
| oiaohm | So this meant take a standard bios image put a patch on the end have in bios rootkit. | Mar 30 17:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes intel boot guard is attempt to block a particular class of infection but I believe they have screwed it up. | Mar 30 17:53 |
| oiaohm | Failure to presume attacker someone manages to steal signing keys. | Mar 30 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/fY5dhL7VMJ (techrights.org) | Mar 30 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Mar 30 17:55 | |
| MinceR | apparently coreboot and libreboot are "infections" | Mar 30 17:55 |
| MinceR | competition is "infection" | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | this is how antitrust law "works" in the 3rd millennium | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | this is what usians call a "free market" | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | stalin would be proud. | Mar 30 17:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: NSA and China and Russia have been doing patches to existing bios images. | Mar 30 17:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not coreboot stuff. | Mar 30 17:57 |
| cubexyz | you can build coreboot images yourself | Mar 30 17:57 |
| cubexyz | no binaries needed | Mar 30 17:57 |
| MinceR | now they won't have to, as uefi appliances locked into winblows will just ship nsa's backdoors | Mar 30 17:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so intel boot guard was attempt to block but remember the stuff is made in countires where government can come and ask for keys. | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | and will even get mandatory updates to them | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: intel boot guard locks out coreboot and libreboot but doesn't lock out windows backdoors | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | thus calling it a security measure is dishonest | Mar 30 17:58 |
| cubexyz | yes, intel boot guard is BS | Mar 30 17:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: security measure always have side-effects. | Mar 30 17:59 |
| oiaohm | Incorrectly designed just cause side-effects with very limited advantages. | Mar 30 17:59 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard what prevents a government or someone pretending to be government to walk up to ODM/OEM and demarding they hand over key so they can bug the crap out of the devices. | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | yay for intel boot guard reserving this right for the usa | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | one of the most abusive governments on the global scale | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | except they also reserve it for intel and m$ | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | then again, there isn't much of a difference between intel/m$ and the puppet government they control | Mar 30 18:01 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard design with user settable key(even if total pain todo) good. Intel boot guard current design where key burns into fuses bad as hell. | Mar 30 18:01 |
| oiaohm | Even worse is the fact it fuses. | Mar 30 18:01 |
| cubexyz | time to boycott | Mar 30 18:01 |
| MinceR | intel boot guard with user settable key wouldn't do what intel and m$ want it to do | Mar 30 18:01 |
| MinceR | hence, burned-in key | Mar 30 18:01 |
| oiaohm | So if a key in device is a few bits away from another key. | Mar 30 18:01 |
| oiaohm | Its possible to make intel boot guard burn out those fuses. | Mar 30 18:02 |
| oiaohm | So making it impossible to install the OEM/ODM firmware. | Mar 30 18:02 |
| oiaohm | Also it added a nice lets brick the laptop by setting key to 1 number | Mar 30 18:03 |
| oiaohm | Burnt in key starts with Arm processes and has historically caused a lot of bricking. | Mar 30 18:04 |
| oiaohm | Then intel goes and copies that. | Mar 30 18:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you could also call Intel Boot Guard keeping up with the Joneses without thinking. Since arm cpu have a option to include firmware fused check key x86 arch has to have one right even that most arm makers are stopping use it due to too much trouble. | Mar 30 18:08 |
| MinceR | arm-based mobile devices being locked down is bad enough | Mar 30 18:09 |
| MinceR | there's no need to fuck pcs up in their image | Mar 30 18:09 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: majority of arm chips in mobile devices are not using a locked down image. | Mar 30 18:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: in the form of fuses. | Mar 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its bootloader. | Mar 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you can swap the bootloader you can load what ever you like. | Mar 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | Yes pain factor without knowing how to jtag the device the only way to swap the bootloader is use the bootloader on the arm device. | Mar 30 18:13 |
| oiaohm | Locked down as per the most common mobile devices don't see you doing intel boot guard. | Mar 30 18:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its the brick factor. You are producing devices something goes wrong setting the fuses you now have a stack of not sellable hardware on hands ODM/OEM don't particularly like that. | Mar 30 18:17 |
| MinceR | yet intel likes it | Mar 30 18:18 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 30 18:18 |
| oiaohm | If x86 ODM/OEM will learn in time its not a good idea. | Mar 30 18:18 |
| oiaohm | Is the question. | Mar 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | so far they've proven to be extremely shitty at learning | Mar 30 18:19 |
| MarkBilk_ | hello - msb_ here! | Mar 30 18:19 |
| oiaohm | ARM ODM/OEM took 4 years to learn that it was a bad idea | Mar 30 18:19 |
| MarkBilk_ | what's new? | Mar 30 18:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: biggest arm failure was 4 million duds due to signing fuses set wrong. | Mar 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | MarkBilk_: canonical selling out to m$ more blatantly than before | Mar 30 18:21 |
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| MinceR | also, m$'s campaign of lies about how much they "love" that which they're trying to destroy intensifying | Mar 30 18:21 |
| MarkBilk_ | gack! | Mar 30 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | 0/ | Mar 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | and of course turrist attacks being used as excuses to ban encryption | Mar 30 18:21 |
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| MarkBilk_ | what aabout systemd? any good distro without it? | Mar 30 18:22 |
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| MinceR | sure | Mar 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | funtoo, slackware | Mar 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | i keep hearing more about void lately | Mar 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | devuan is progressing, though still no beta yet | Mar 30 18:23 |
| MarkBilk_ | is slack 4.2 out yet? | Mar 30 18:23 |
| MinceR | if you mean 14.2, doesn't look like it | Mar 30 18:24 |
| MarkBilk_ | yeah | Mar 30 18:24 |
| cubexyz | Slackware 14.2 RC1 was released on 2016-03-18 | Mar 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | nice | Mar 30 18:24 |
| MarkBilk_ | better than beta | Mar 30 18:25 |
| MarkBilk_ | in rehab for leg injury. hexchat in windows | Mar 30 18:26 |
| MarkBilk_ | US election horrible. will get Rump or Clinton. both psychopaths | Mar 30 18:29 |
| cubexyz | I thought Sanders was catching up? | Mar 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | sandurz isn't much more of a democrat either, see what he said about Snowden | Mar 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | none of the candidates of either arms of the Megacorporate Party are | Mar 30 18:30 |
| MarkBilk_ | don't think he can possibly get enough delegates | Mar 30 18:31 |
| MarkBilk_ | Sanders would still be much better | Mar 30 18:31 |
| oiaohm | Interesting question ubuntu on Windows is that systemd on windows. | Mar 30 18:33 |
| MinceR | i guess it depends on whether m$ reimplemented cgroups or not | Mar 30 18:33 |
| cubexyz | that just sounds horrible :-P | Mar 30 18:33 |
| MinceR | that's because it is | Mar 30 18:33 |
| MarkBilk_ | finally got cable net and leaarned some windows - yech! | Mar 30 18:34 |
| cubexyz | so have experienced windows 10 then? | Mar 30 18:35 |
| MarkBilk_ | 8.1 | Mar 30 18:35 |
| MinceR | has it tried to "upgrade" to Backdoors10 yet? :> | Mar 30 18:35 |
| MarkBilk_ | acer 10 ton laptop | Mar 30 18:35 |
| MarkBilk_ | always but i have refused | Mar 30 18:36 |
| MinceR | be careful, there are reports of it doing it without user confirmation | Mar 30 18:36 |
| MarkBilk_ | damn, hexchat is better than konversation! | Mar 30 18:37 |
| cubexyz | in openbsd land we still use xchat :) | Mar 30 18:37 |
| MinceR | kvirc is better than hexchat | Mar 30 18:37 |
| MinceR | irssi is better than kvirc | Mar 30 18:37 |
| cubexyz | what about ksirc? :) | Mar 30 18:38 |
| MarkBilk_ | isn't irssi one line at a time | Mar 30 18:38 |
| MarkBilk_ | ? | Mar 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | i didn't get far with ksirc | Mar 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | what do you mean by "one line at a time"? | Mar 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Rick4312 https://t.co/fY5dhL7VMJ (techrights.org) | Mar 30 18:38 |
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| MarkBilk_ | cmdline | Mar 30 18:38 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness...' | Mar 30 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Mar 30 18:38 | |
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| cubelog_ | nope "_ | Mar 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | it has no multi-line input mode, if you mean that | Mar 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | but you can paste multi-line text into it | Mar 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | if you want to send it all at once | Mar 30 18:39 |
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| MinceR | well, at least as far as i know | Mar 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | i never actually tried to do multi-line input | Mar 30 18:39 |
| MarkBilk_ | anyhow hexchat is fine. shows channels intree at left instead of bunched up at bottom | Mar 30 18:40 |
| cubexyz | konversation was post 3.5.10 I think | Mar 30 18:40 |
| MarkBilk_ | yes, i used one from kde4 | Mar 30 18:41 |
| MarkBilk_ | funtoo is source based. eek | Mar 30 18:44 |
| MinceR | which lets you remove dependencies on poetteringware | Mar 30 18:45 |
| MinceR | i'm setting up a funtoo VM which has no avahi, consolekit, kdbus, networkmanager, packagekit, policykit, pulseaudio, systemd, udisks or upower | Mar 30 18:45 |
| MinceR | and it will do nonroot X without consolekit or systemd | Mar 30 18:46 |
| MinceR | i had to settle for allowing dbus to be installed | Mar 30 18:46 |
| MinceR | since its tentacles are everywhere | Mar 30 18:46 |
| MarkBilk_ | so funtoo defaults to systemd? | Mar 30 18:47 |
| MinceR | no | Mar 30 18:48 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it even supports it | Mar 30 18:48 |
| MinceR | they've patched gnome to remove the dependency on systemd, afaik | Mar 30 18:48 |
| MinceR | though i'm not going to install gnome | Mar 30 18:48 |
| cubexyz | funtoo uses openrc I think? | Mar 30 18:49 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 30 18:49 |
| MarkBilk_ | MinceR, did you have to remove all that stuff | Mar 30 18:51 |
| r_schestowitz | caught up (scrollback) | Mar 30 18:52 |
| MinceR | i added them with a minus to my USE flags to make sure no dependencies on them will appear | Mar 30 18:52 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: wishes of quick recovery to you | Mar 30 18:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I mean recovery from Windows | Mar 30 18:52 |
| MinceR | i also masked them | Mar 30 18:52 |
| r_schestowitz | not the leg ... | Mar 30 18:52 |
| MarkBilk_ | thanks! | Mar 30 18:52 |
| r_schestowitz | naaa, just pulling your leg there | Mar 30 18:52 |
| MinceR | iirc none of them were installed at any point so i didn't have to remove them | Mar 30 18:52 |
| cubexyz | openbsd is a more succinct system in any case... doesn't have any of that stuff Mincer mentioned | Mar 30 18:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I saw you mentioned "Rump" | Mar 30 18:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I guess it's not just me calling him that then... | Mar 30 18:52 |
| MarkBilk_ | yeah | Mar 30 18:52 |
| cubexyz | r_schestowitz, haha cute | Mar 30 18:53 |
| r_schestowitz | I even modify headlines accordingly | Mar 30 18:53 |
| MinceR | drumpf said he wants to punish women who get a fetus aborted | Mar 30 18:53 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe it'll catch on by year's end | Mar 30 18:53 |
| r_schestowitz | He'll have his [ahem] RUMP handed to him | Mar 30 18:53 |
| r_schestowitz | but Sanders, I hope | Mar 30 18:53 |
| cubexyz | in fact with openbsd I can pop right out of X easily | Mar 30 18:53 |
| MarkBilk_ | don't think he can possibly get enough delegates | Mar 30 18:53 |
| MinceR | would be nice if the citizens got a clue and supported the libertarian party or something | Mar 30 18:53 |
| r_schestowitz | If it's him versus the other crazy (Clinton), I won't mind the election, only sob or laugh at the US system... | Mar 30 18:54 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: maybe Green | Mar 30 18:54 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: people are misled into wasted vote | Mar 30 18:54 |
| MinceR | dunno, the greens look very crybully-esque to me | Mar 30 18:54 |
| r_schestowitz | RMS support Stein | Mar 30 18:54 |
| r_schestowitz | and he explained to me, on video, why in the US people vote for 1 of 2 parties | Mar 30 18:54 |
| r_schestowitz | unlike in the UK... | Mar 30 18:54 |
| MinceR | because they think not voting for the Megacorporate Party is a waste of a vote | Mar 30 18:55 |
| MinceR | self-fulfilling prophecy | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | I keep thinking it'll be interesting if: | Mar 30 18:55 |
| cubexyz | does the green party have any representation in the US gov? | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | Sanders 'lost' | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | to 'super' delegates | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and then joined with Greens | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | a lot of his D supporters would then defect to Green | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and maybe they can become a new force | Mar 30 18:55 |
| MarkBilk_ | r_schestowitz, laugh now. WW3 will get you too! | Mar 30 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | if they can somehow pull off this commitment | Mar 30 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | which means fragmenting D and risking a GOP win | Mar 30 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: I know | Mar 30 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | that's why I said sob and that's why I do follow US politics | Mar 30 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | it affects everyone | Mar 30 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | brb | Mar 30 18:56 |
| cubexyz | I think the Greens have one seat in Canada | Mar 30 18:56 |
| MinceR | canada also has the NDP | Mar 30 18:57 |
| MinceR | beside the tories and the "liberals" | Mar 30 18:57 |
| cubexyz | yes, one seat out of 338 for the greens :) | Mar 30 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | Green is bigger in the UK | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | Lucas et al | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | but they shrank | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I know the head of Pirate Party here | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | he lives close to us | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | but PPUK is dying | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | and not even close to any seats anymore | Mar 30 18:58 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DubDelivery/status/715312694287605760 | Mar 30 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DubDelivery: DubMediaMash https://t.co/DymmUHgtwz - top stories by @schestowitz, @FAIRmediawatch | Mar 30 19:01 | |
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| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Australia Really I would say where I live has a few too many political parties. | Mar 30 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of political parties in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/opttn ] | Mar 30 19:02 | |
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| MarkBilk_ | hillary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM | Mar 30 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Hillary Clinton "We Came, We Saw, He Died" (Gaddafi) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/optvd ] | Mar 30 19:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | hi Marius | Mar 30 19:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Guest30739: | Mar 30 19:10 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: he did die | Mar 30 19:11 |
| r_schestowitz | by the "good" terrorists | Mar 30 19:11 |
| Guest30739 | Hi Roy ;) | Mar 30 19:11 |
| r_schestowitz | But she hasn't replicated this "success" against Assad | Mar 30 19:11 |
| Guest30739 | any language restrictions here? | Mar 30 19:11 |
| r_schestowitz | no, all allowed | Mar 30 19:11 |
| MarkBilk_ | she is a psychopath | Mar 30 19:11 |
| oiaohm | Reality there is no such thing as a good terrorist. | Mar 30 19:11 |
| MinceR | not even dead ones? | Mar 30 19:11 |
| oiaohm | There is such thing as a proper freedom fighter. | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | oiaohm: to some, they don't call it that | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | perspective | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | some call drone strikes "drone terrorism" | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | because it scares entire villages | Mar 30 19:12 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways drone strikes are terrorism. | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | they know it's not accurate and anyone could die any time | Mar 30 19:12 |
| MinceR | some say people who pay in cash are terrorists | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | it's called another thing | Mar 30 19:12 |
| r_schestowitz | !google state terorrism | Mar 30 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - State terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism | Mar 30 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - United States and state terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state_terrorism | Mar 30 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bureau of Counterterrorism - US Department of State | http://www.state.gov/j/ct/ | Mar 30 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - State Sponsors of Terrorism - US Department of State | http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm | Mar 30 19:12 |
| MarkBilk_ | Assad lives thanks to putin bombing the fuck out of isil | Mar 30 19:12 |
| MinceR | allegedly isil | Mar 30 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | funny how State Dept. got [3] and [4] above, maybe decent googlebombing efforts | Mar 30 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Kurds? | Mar 30 19:13 |
| oiaohm | Please remember russia aircraft bombs hospitals and other things. | Mar 30 19:13 |
| MarkBilk_ | doubt it | Mar 30 19:13 |
| r_schestowitz | same issue US has had | Mar 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | in the eyes of some, russia can do no wrong | Mar 30 19:14 |
| r_schestowitz | I think at least 3 hospitals got hit by the US last year, including one that SA did in Yemen. | Mar 30 19:14 |
| oiaohm | USA and Russa both can be called terrorist due to careless usage of bombs blowing up civilian targets. | Mar 30 19:14 |
| r_schestowitz | but they don't aim at civilians | Mar 30 19:15 |
| r_schestowitz | so depends on one's definition | Mar 30 19:15 |
| oiaohm | Terrorist does not require you to aim. | Mar 30 19:15 |
| r_schestowitz | the question is, what level of certainty do they have about accuracy? | Mar 30 19:15 |
| oiaohm | Just be careless and cause fear. | Mar 30 19:15 |
| r_schestowitz | assassination of leaders is not terrorism | Mar 30 19:15 |
| r_schestowitz | it's homicide or political assassination | Mar 30 19:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Oswald (if it's him) wouldn't be named "terrorist" | Mar 30 19:16 |
| oiaohm | Exactly targeted strikes that cilvians can clearly see is not aimed at them is not terrorism. | Mar 30 19:16 |
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| MarkBilk_ | US supports isil. sends in many thousand "good" head-choppers w SAMs etc & they go right to isil | Mar 30 19:17 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/m8XqkCA | Mar 30 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Mar 30 19:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | pastebin | Mar 30 19:18 |
| r_schestowitz | just put there the 'proof' | Mar 30 19:18 |
| oiaohm | Geneva Convention is clear on the define of terrorism after world war II. Having civilians in fear because you are not being targeted is terrorism by the Convention. | Mar 30 19:19 |
| MinceR | i wonder if anyone cares about the geneva convention anymore | Mar 30 19:19 |
| MarkBilk_ | pentagon HCs were fighting CIA HCs yesterday! | Mar 30 19:19 |
| MarkBilk_ | all to make US voters accept rump or hillary to protect them | Mar 30 19:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: geneva convention are the only official rules of war and it what you can be charged down the track for war crimes under. Those laws have no expire date either is legal in fact to charge someone under Geneva convention 100 years after their death. | Mar 30 19:21 |
| MinceR | sure, but who enforces them, the UN? | Mar 30 19:22 |
| MarkBilk_ | 10,000 people die per day in US. turriists are nothing | Mar 30 19:22 |
| r_schestowitz | cancer a big killer | Mar 30 19:24 |
| r_schestowitz | accidents, and gun-related in the US | Mar 30 19:24 |
| r_schestowitz | not sure what percent are suicides using firearms | Mar 30 19:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: International Criminal Court in the The Hague. USA only will attend as an observer they are not willing to allow them selves to face trial. | Mar 30 19:24 |
| r_schestowitz | or... | Mar 30 19:24 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: Windows in hopitals | Mar 30 19:24 |
| r_schestowitz | !google malware in hospital us | Mar 30 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Three US hospitals hit by ransomware - BBC News - BBC.com | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35880610 | Mar 30 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Hospital Declares 'Internal State of Emergency' After Ransomware ... | https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/03/hospital-declares-internet-state-of-emergency-after-ransomware-infection/ | Mar 30 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Three U.S. Hospitals Hit in String of Ransomware Attacks - NBC News | http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/three-u-s-hospitals-hit-string-ransomware-attacks-n544366 | Mar 30 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Hospital Falls Victim to Latest Hacker Ransom Attack - US News | http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-18/hospital-falls-victim-to-latest-hacker-ransom-attack | Mar 30 19:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and no one has formally placed a case even that there is a lot of evidence. | Mar 30 19:24 |
| MinceR | Backdoors10 in hospitals | Mar 30 19:25 |
| r_schestowitz | many recent stories along those lines | Mar 30 19:25 |
| r_schestowitz | ask the wife for ransom money to get the husban's x-ray scans.. | Mar 30 19:25 |
| MarkBilk_ | got comcast in here. $114/mo | Mar 30 19:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is laws against what the USA and Russia have been upto with bombings and no one is spending the time to bring charges. | Mar 30 19:26 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715318855103614976 | Mar 30 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Say no more @schestowitz Microsoft and Ubuntu salesman. Touches end of nose... https://t.co/TqZaVaGU7C | Mar 30 19:26 | |
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| MarkBilk_ | Assad requested putin bombing | Mar 30 19:27 |
| oiaohm | MarkBilk_: bombing is not exactly illegal it what you bomb is the issue. Like blowing up mill bases and tanks legal. | Mar 30 19:27 |
| oiaohm | MarkBilk_: hitting a hospital with the official un sign-age on the roof is illegal. Those building you are meant to take with foot soliders. | Mar 30 19:28 |
| MarkBilk_ | and lines of hundreds of trucks taking stolen oil to sell in turkey | Mar 30 19:28 |
| MarkBilk_ | sure\ | Mar 30 19:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so, nobody cares about the geneva conventions anymore | Mar 30 19:29 |
| oiaohm | That would be classed as blocking supply lines offically part of war and legal as shockwave warning is provided. | Mar 30 19:29 |
| oiaohm | MarkBilk_: basically fly pass then blow the crud out the trucks to give the civilians a chance to get clear. | Mar 30 19:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: every year under the genveva conventions a few people get put to death. | Mar 30 19:31 |
| MarkBilk_ | excellent! | Mar 30 19:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so its not nobody cares. | Mar 30 19:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: genveva conventions only work if charges are in fact brought. | Mar 30 19:31 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: apparently the usa and russia don't care | Mar 30 19:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DJMu3L/status/715319720216567808 | Mar 30 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DJMu3L: @schestowitz Ah apologies... I did not know you were being critical! | Mar 30 19:32 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: russia has themselves executed commanders over carelessness due to breaching genveva conventions when the death count is higher than 20. | Mar 30 19:32 |
| MinceR | when? | Mar 30 19:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: USA don't care. | Mar 30 19:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: War in Donbass 2014 command got executed for bombing a civilian shelter. | Mar 30 19:34 |
| oiaohm | opps command/commander | Mar 30 19:35 |
| MinceR | what was he doing there? | Mar 30 19:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Russia vs Ukraine general war between soliders. | Mar 30 19:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically commander was there doing general warfare and screwed up. | Mar 30 19:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: russia solider if you screw up you hope the effected number of civilians is less than 20. | Mar 30 19:37 |
| MinceR | so much for the tale of non-russian forces | Mar 30 19:38 |
| oiaohm | Ukraine more strictly obey the convention. Any civilian harm by their forces risk lose of rank at a min. Death Civilian by anything other than bad luck(ie they did everything to avoid it and it happened anyhow) is death. | Mar 30 19:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically it depends on the mil force how strictly they obey the convention. | Mar 30 19:40 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: north Korea, china and russia obey the convention more than the USA does. | Mar 30 19:42 |
| r_schestowitz | #microsoft loves Linux, in pictures http://d1bghp9m77ju8l.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Marrying-for-Money.jpg | Mar 30 19:42 |
| MarkBilk_ | ick! | Mar 30 19:43 |
| MinceR | ick indeed | Mar 30 19:43 |
| oiaohm | https://opentoonz.github.io/e/ this is interesting. | Mar 30 19:45 |
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| Guest30739 | I know I'm late to the party, but what the fuck is Canonical doing? | Mar 30 20:09 |
| r_schestowitz | making money | Mar 30 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft has money | Mar 30 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Canonical -- not as much... | Mar 30 20:10 |
| Guest30739 | did M$ brainwashed them? | Mar 30 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | This reminds me of Novell in 2006 | Mar 30 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | or even in 2005 | Mar 30 20:10 |
| r_schestowitz | M$=Mark $huttleworth? | Mar 30 20:11 |
| Guest30739 | money for what? | Mar 30 20:11 |
| Guest30739 | is shuttleworthless penniless? | Mar 30 20:11 |
| Guest30739 | "M$=Mark $huttleworth" good one :D | Mar 30 20:12 |
| MinceR | Guest30739: selling out | Mar 30 20:14 |
| Guest30739 | ...and it looks like more and more employees are leaving | Mar 30 20:15 |
| Guest30739 | look at Edubuntu... gone | Mar 30 20:16 |
| Guest30739 | Kubuntu... gone | Mar 30 20:16 |
| r_schestowitz | edubuntu also? | Mar 30 20:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I guess I haven't heard of it in a while | Mar 30 20:17 |
| Guest30739 | yup | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | educationwashing | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | part of the Shuttleworth modus | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | paining himself as educating africans | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | he has a whole foundation around that | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | and it's dodgy | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | I wrote some articles about it in the past, based on sources close to it | Mar 30 20:17 |
| r_schestowitz | well, not they have engineers at MS | Mar 30 20:18 |
| r_schestowitz | and Microsoft sponsors them, they say... | Mar 30 20:18 |
| r_schestowitz | so it's good for them in a sense | Mar 30 20:18 |
| r_schestowitz | damaging for the rest of us | Mar 30 20:18 |
| r_schestowitz | divide and rule is something MS did with Novell beforehand | Mar 30 20:18 |
| MinceR | i guess all their other plans for generating profits failed | Mar 30 20:18 |
| r_schestowitz | "Intellectual Propety peace of mind" | Mar 30 20:19 |
| r_schestowitz | "good linux" vs "bad linux" (pirate) | Mar 30 20:19 |
| Guest30739 | they didn't even have the money to buy a ticket at the MS conference | Mar 30 20:20 |
| Guest30739 | that says a lot! | Mar 30 20:20 |
| r_schestowitz | don't think it's that | Mar 30 20:26 |
| r_schestowitz | but one of them said MS paid for it | Mar 30 20:26 |
| r_schestowitz | which I think shows how Microsoft throws its money around to get its way | Mar 30 20:26 |
| r_schestowitz | !google microsoft romania bribe | Mar 30 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft licensing corruption scandal - Wikipedia, the free ... | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_licensing_corruption_scandal | Mar 30 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Romanian political class rocked by Microsoft bribe scandal | https://euobserver.com/political/125868 | Mar 30 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - U.S. Probes Microsoft, Partners Over Bribery Claims - WSJ | http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324392804578361971662214256 | Mar 30 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Archives - FCPA Professor | http://fcpaprofessor.com/category/microsoft/ | Mar 30 20:27 |
| r_schestowitz | no update re [3] yet? | Mar 30 20:27 |
| r_schestowitz | They never came out with an outcome | Mar 30 20:27 |
| r_schestowitz | as though Microsoft extinguished this | Mar 30 20:27 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe bribed the investigators too ;-) | Mar 30 20:27 |
| Guest30739 | in Romania everything is possible... no one cares about anything | Mar 30 20:29 |
| Guest30739 | home of piracy ;-) | Mar 30 20:30 |
| r_schestowitz | not piracy | Mar 30 20:30 |
| r_schestowitz | !google prime minister piracy microsoft | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Here's Why Microsoft Is Giving Pirates the Next Windows for Free ... | http://time.com/3749434/microsoft-windows-10-pirates-free/ | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Strong Industry Partnerships Can Address the Evolving Software ... | http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2013/04/24/strong-industry-partnerships-can-address-the-evolving-software-piracy-landscape/ | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Russia Uses Microsoft to Suppress Dissent - The New York Times | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Russia embraces free software, a huge blow to Microsoft | http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-embraces-free-software-huge-blow-microsoft-252025 | Mar 30 20:30 |
| r_schestowitz | he foolishly used the words of Microsoft | Mar 30 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | and treated Bill Gates like a hero rather than a bandit | Mar 30 20:31 |
| r_schestowitz | around 2008 | Mar 30 20:31 |
| Guest30739 | piracy is promoted on TV in Romania... so... | Mar 30 20:33 |
| r_schestowitz | they should promote gnu/linux | Mar 30 20:34 |
| r_schestowitz | would create jobs too, all over europe there's demand for such skills | Mar 30 20:34 |
| Guest30739 | very true. yeah they should, but everyone is using pirated vista =)) | Mar 30 20:36 |
| Guest30739 | no kidding | Mar 30 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | By Mary Branscombe | Mar 30 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | "New Microsoft, new attitude…" | Mar 30 20:36 |
| r_schestowitz | mary, mary... | Mar 30 20:37 |
| r_schestowitz | What a scam she has been for ages | Mar 30 20:37 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/cloud-services/how-microsoft-is-serious-about-supporting-linux-and-cloud-rivals-with-oms-1318021 | Mar 30 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | How Microsoft is serious about supporting Linux and cloud rivals with OMS | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/opu9u ] | Mar 30 20:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | it's clear what the strategy is in the media | Mar 30 20:37 |
| Guest30739 | serious my ass | Mar 30 20:38 |
| Guest30739 | haha, what a joke | Mar 30 20:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Canonical is now doing Microsoft's EEE for Microsoft | Mar 30 20:39 |
| Guest30739 | :)) | Mar 30 20:39 |
| r_schestowitz | http://kotaku.com/nintendo-employee-terminated-after-smear-campaign-over-1768100368 http://nzgamer.com/news/9956/nintendo-terminates-employee-after-censorship-smear-campaign.html | Mar 30 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Nintendo Employee 'Terminated' After Smear Campaign Over Censorship [ http://ur1.ca/opuak ] | Mar 30 20:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nzgamer.com | Nintendo ‘Terminates’ Employee after Censorship Smear Campaign - NZGamer.com [ http://ur1.ca/opual ] | Mar 30 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Banished Linux port is pretty much complete, | Mar 30 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenGL performing well https://t.co/TEfFQdQ9q7 | Mar 30 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 30 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opuck | Mar 30 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Banished Linux port is pretty much complete, OpenGL performing well | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 20:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EVERSPACE, a fantastic looking 3D space shooter | Mar 30 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with roguelike elements coming to Linux | Mar 30 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Lvkc5rWu8i (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 30 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opucl | Mar 30 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | EVERSPACE, a fantastic looking 3D space shooter with roguelike elements coming to Linux | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 20:49 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | 5 Lightweight Linux For Old Computers - LinuxAndUbuntu | Mar 30 21:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza | Mar 30 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tecknocrat | Mar 30 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opueq | Mar 30 21:01 |
| r_schestowitz | A chain of stores offered last year for free to 159 schools in Romania 1749 functional notebooks ( Asus X101CH ) with Edubuntu on them. | Mar 30 21:12 |
| r_schestowitz | Unfortunately I learned that the Ministry of Education began to wipe the Edubuntu system on those notebooks and install Windows . | Mar 30 21:12 |
| r_schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=12852&threshold=0&commentsort=0&mode=improvedthreaded&pid=324540#324552 | Mar 30 21:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | quote | Mar 30 21:12 |
| Guest30739 | OMG | Mar 30 21:14 |
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| Guest30739 | I mean, typical romanian thinking | Mar 30 21:17 |
| Guest30739 | r_schestowitz: check out the new blog on OMG Ubuntu =)) | Mar 30 21:20 |
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| razielle_tzu | Guest30739: you mean this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/microsoft-linux-and-why-its-no-longer-2005 | Mar 30 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | It's No Longer 2005 (So Don't Panic About Microsoft's Linux Lovefest) - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/opuka ] | Mar 30 21:31 | |
| Guest30739 | yeah | Mar 30 21:32 |
| razielle_tzu | the more i read about the bash thing the less i like it... and i was already torn over it | Mar 30 21:37 |
| MinceR | hopefully it will never matter to me | Mar 30 21:37 |
| Guest30739 | same here | Mar 30 21:38 |
| razielle_tzu | any work i do is on linux or bsd so it shouldn't effect me | Mar 30 21:38 |
| Guest30739 | bsd is amazing, I think it should be promoted more | Mar 30 21:39 |
| razielle_tzu | which one i use is purely down to which hdd is in my laptop and how lazy i'm feeling | Mar 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | redhat is promoting bsd, in a way :> | Mar 30 21:40 |
| razielle_tzu | i must have missed that | Mar 30 21:40 |
| Guest30739 | no one cares about red hat =) | Mar 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | well, they're destroying GNU/Linux | Mar 30 21:44 |
| Guest30739 | they are making a lot of money from Linus' baby and that's all | Mar 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | and this has already resulted in some folks fleeing to *BSD | Mar 30 21:44 |
| Guest30739 | yeah, that too | Mar 30 21:44 |
| Guest30739 | I think I'm gonna move to BSD permanently, very very soon *evil laugh* | Mar 30 21:45 |
| razielle_tzu | which bsd? | Mar 30 21:47 |
| oiaohm | OpenBSD and FreeBSD still have the lack of drivers issue. | Mar 30 21:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/ovRoMZ1ZFR | Mar 30 21:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opumy | Mar 30 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Comparing Fedora 23 and Korora 23 | Mar 30 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Cinnamon) https://t.co/TDTCXvhyjP | Mar 30 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Video: Comparing Fedora 23 and Korora 23 (Cinnamon) | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics | Mar 30 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Mar 30 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2cOpqNbYm9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opun1 | Mar 30 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opun2 | Mar 30 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Reiser4 Now Available For Linux 4.5 Kernel | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:49 | |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: really it way to soon to know where Ubuntu on windows is going to end up. If it results in projects stopping windows binaries the location in time could be worse for Microsoft. | Mar 30 21:50 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Mar 30 21:50 |
| oiaohm | Could be OS/2 and win16 all over again. | Mar 30 21:50 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't remember much of that tbh | Mar 30 21:51 |
| oiaohm | Ibm with odion make a win16 emulator for OS/2 This was a very good quality emulator the result was companies made win16 applications instead of OS/2 ones. | Mar 30 21:52 |
| oiaohm | and in fact stopped making OS/2 applications and provided only win16 ones. | Mar 30 21:52 |
| oiaohm | Basically doomed OS/2 from making any progress particularly when win32 released and it was now incompadible. | Mar 30 21:52 |
| razielle_tzu | ouch | Mar 30 21:53 |
| Guest30739 | razielle_tzu: FreeBSD | Mar 30 21:53 |
| oiaohm | That is 4 year time frame. | Mar 30 21:53 |
| oiaohm | So 4 years from now Microsoft could be feeling ouch if ubuntu team plans this well. | Mar 30 21:53 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Mar 30 21:54 |
| oiaohm | Question is who is EEE who. | Mar 30 21:54 |
| razielle_tzu | they both could be trying to EEE the other, which will come out on top is another matter | Mar 30 21:54 |
| oiaohm | People also forget early on microsoft release internet explorer for unix and stopped that once they had enough market share. | Mar 30 21:55 |
| razielle_tzu | i didn't forget that, i didnt know about it. i haven't read up on microsoft's history and spent a long time using Amigas before i finally had to use windows for school | Mar 30 21:56 |
| oiaohm | Normally in effective EEE you make your stuff work on your opposition platform then pull the rug out from under it. | Mar 30 21:56 |
| oiaohm | MS Office on Android is following EEE model that could kind of work. | Mar 30 21:57 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu on Windows seams to be the exact reverse to what you want. | Mar 30 21:58 |
| oiaohm | as Microsoft | Mar 30 21:58 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't use any office software on my android devices but if i did it wouldn't be something MS put out anyway | Mar 30 21:59 |
| MinceR | for m$, making their stuff _work_ would be a challenge | Mar 30 21:59 |
| MinceR | they apparently don't believe in spending on engineers | Mar 30 21:59 |
| oiaohm | Also we have to remember the Oracle vs Google case over Java. | Mar 30 21:59 |
| oiaohm | That case means there is a horrible risk that the subsystem would have to be GPLv2. | Mar 30 22:00 |
| oiaohm | And if the vmware loses their case hello open source Windows. | Mar 30 22:00 |
| oiaohm | So the level of fire Microsoft is playing with is quite a lot. | Mar 30 22:00 |
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| oiaohm | The legal risk level kinda suggest Microsoft is desperate to slow down it server market loss of control. | Mar 30 22:01 |
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| MinceR | then again, it's sort of understandable | Mar 30 22:03 |
| MinceR | no self-respecting engineer would work with those criminal assholes | Mar 30 22:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: don't be too sure. | Mar 30 22:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the developer who designed the Linux kernel configuration script was latter highered by Microsoft. | Mar 30 22:06 |
| MinceR | he probably had no self-respect | Mar 30 22:07 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/Microsoft/msbuild | Mar 30 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | GitHub - Microsoft/msbuild: The Microsoft Build Engine (MSBuild) is the build platform for .NET and Visual Studio. | Mar 30 22:07 | |
| oiaohm | Its not that Microsoft is not attempting to go cross platform. The fact msbuild cannot build the first sample application cross platform is really a bad sign. | Mar 30 22:08 |
| oiaohm | Great new Microsoft project to kinda ruin self. https://github.com/Microsoft/BotBuilder How long before someone takes this and makes a spamming bot. | Mar 30 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | GitHub - Microsoft/BotBuilder: The Microsoft Bot Builder SDK is one of three main components of the Microsoft Bot Framework. The Microsoft Bot Framework provides just what you need to build and connect intelligent bots that interact naturally wherever your users are talking, from text/sms to Skype, Slack, Office 365 mail and other popular services. | Mar 30 22:10 | |
| MinceR | their own alleged "AI" bot already flooded twitter | Mar 30 22:10 |
| MinceR | so "how long" is 0s, or a negative amount | Mar 30 22:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I do notice Microsoft loves doing MIT licenses on everything. | Mar 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | no surprise there | Mar 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | freely usable in proprietary shit; no patent license | Mar 30 22:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also free to over license. | Mar 30 22:21 |
| oiaohm | MIT is a license you can over license with GPL or MPL | Mar 30 22:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SMARC COM and IoT gateway SBC are buzzing with | Mar 30 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wireless https://t.co/zIRZD1uJJ7 | Mar 30 22:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SMARC COM and IoT gateway SBC are buzzing with wireless | Tux Machines | Mar 30 22:51 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Epiphany 3.20 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 22:57 | |
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| belle105 | hi does anyone knows how Lenovo deals with warranty requests ? | Mar 30 23:26 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: depend on country. Here in Australia you need up using fair trading requirement statements a lot. | Mar 30 23:29 |
| belle105 | UK they have my pad but want to charge me £181 | Mar 30 23:30 |
| belle105 | to fix it | Mar 30 23:30 |
| belle105 | even though was sent to them under the warranty | Mar 30 23:30 |
| belle105 | cost £229 for it as a new pad. | Mar 30 23:31 |
| belle105 | why do they charge if it is still under warranty ? | Mar 30 23:32 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: it called the fine print. The is a huge number of things that are not covered. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| oiaohm | belle105: and most of those fine print things don't legally apply in australia due to fair trading laws. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| belle105 | even if its a mjor thing such as the hard drive ? | Mar 31 00:15 |
| belle105 | major * | Mar 31 00:15 |
| razielle_tzu | it is down to what the failure is | Mar 31 00:16 |
| oiaohm | belle105: it what they class as a consumable. | Mar 31 00:16 |
| belle105 | hard drive is consumable ? | Mar 31 00:17 |
| oiaohm | belle105: I know the argument over harddrive failing due to impact. | Mar 31 00:17 |
| belle105 | no impact. reasonale use. never falen or abused in any way . | Mar 31 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Fair trading laws here mandate that harddrives have to be able to tollerate up to a 10G impact. | Mar 31 00:17 |
| belle105 | fallen * | Mar 31 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Using what lenovo tries is 1 foot drop. | Mar 31 00:18 |
| belle105 | never been dropped. | Mar 31 00:18 |
| oiaohm | belle105: basically I don't know UK law. | Mar 31 00:18 |
| belle105 | its ok | Mar 31 00:18 |
| belle105 | thank you for trying | Mar 31 00:19 |
| oiaohm | belle105: dropped in the box while in shipping. | Mar 31 00:19 |
| belle105 | i will try call them again | Mar 31 00:19 |
| oiaohm | Really you need to know your consumer laws before talking to them. | Mar 31 00:19 |
| belle105 | i had it for 10 months before it gave up | Mar 31 00:19 |
| oiaohm | smart in harddrive is like a data logger. | Mar 31 00:20 |
| belle105 | hence why i am trying to find out now since 03:am its now 05:20 am they wont be open for a while yet | Mar 31 00:20 |
| belle105 | whats data logger | Mar 31 00:20 |
| belle105 | i am not a techie person | Mar 31 00:20 |
| oiaohm | Records everything that has happened to it. | Mar 31 00:20 |
| oiaohm | while its powered. | Mar 31 00:21 |
| oiaohm | There a g sensors and all kinds of stuff inside harddrives. | Mar 31 00:21 |
| belle105 | ok | Mar 31 00:22 |
| oiaohm | consumable that lenovo uses is anything that can be damaged by general wear and tear. That does include harddrives. | Mar 31 00:22 |
| belle105 | 10 months even for a cheap machine | Mar 31 00:23 |
| belle105 | is unacceptable | Mar 31 00:23 |
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| oiaohm | harddrives most common causes of earily death is heat and impacts | Mar 31 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes harddrive log both. | Mar 31 00:23 |
| belle105 | heat is something all laptops have a problem with i hear | Mar 31 00:23 |
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| oiaohm | Not all. | Mar 31 00:23 |
| oiaohm | All high performing laptops have heat trouble. | Mar 31 00:24 |
| belle105 | i changed to mac after that | Mar 31 00:24 |
| belle105 | its not too bad tbh | Mar 31 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Some of less powerful laptops do in fact operate at level they can cool properly. | Mar 31 00:24 |
| belle105 | remains cool most of the time | Mar 31 00:25 |
| oiaohm | mac have quite heavy cooling parts fitted and it shows. | Mar 31 00:25 |
| oiaohm | 1/4 the weight of a mac laptop is parts related to cool. | Mar 31 00:26 |
| belle105 | wow i didn't know that | Mar 31 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Not all laptops have heat trouble. | Mar 31 00:26 |
| belle105 | the guy at the shop told me i wont need a cooling pad. i didn't believe him to beging with . | Mar 31 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Was it intel graphics. | Mar 31 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Amd or Nvidia graphics in fact generate lots of heat. | Mar 31 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Even mac laptops forced to use Nvidia graphics all the time show heat rise. | Mar 31 00:28 |
| belle105 | yes | Mar 31 00:28 |
| belle105 | intel | Mar 31 00:28 |
| belle105 | it was just Lenovo flex 10 | Mar 31 00:29 |
| belle105 | but still expected it to last longer | Mar 31 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Chassis in those sux. If you can pick up a laptop and it flex main frame is not strong enough to hold parts well. | Mar 31 00:31 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: and I have not seen any laptop with a major fold back screen with decent cooling fitted. | Mar 31 00:34 |
| oiaohm | belle105: by being able to flip upside down ruin you means to depend on venting under keyboard and the like to let heat out of device. | Mar 31 00:36 |
| belle105 | it wasn't the important thing for me. it was the size tbh. | Mar 31 00:38 |
| belle105 | i have problems with my hands and weight/ size does matter in this case haha | Mar 31 00:39 |
| oiaohm | That means you will have problems. | Mar 31 00:40 |
| oiaohm | Cooling hardware has weight and there is no way around it. | Mar 31 00:40 |
| belle105 | thsi macbook pro is ok | Mar 31 00:40 |
| belle105 | its light | Mar 31 00:40 |
| belle105 | despite the fact its 13 inch | Mar 31 00:40 |
| oiaohm | The aluimuim case is part of the cooling system. | Mar 31 00:40 |
| belle105 | i imagine it is | Mar 31 00:41 |
| belle105 | feels very light and cool | Mar 31 00:41 |
| oiaohm | Basically most of the casing of the macbook pro is second job cooling. | Mar 31 00:41 |
| belle105 | bit on a bad day even this can fee heavy | Mar 31 00:41 |
| oiaohm | So hiding lot of it weight. | Mar 31 00:41 |
| belle105 | nice | Mar 31 00:42 |
| belle105 | now i just have to learn how to use mac to get the maximum out of my machine | Mar 31 00:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is there are a few lighter than the 13 inch macbook out there but then you start running to swaping non cooling plastic(basically insulation) for cooling material like aluimuim then you start having heat problems. | Mar 31 00:43 |
| oiaohm | belle105: basically for good operation you are very interested in how the case is setup to cool it. | Mar 31 00:45 |
| belle105 | good tip for next windows laptop if i buy one :) | Mar 31 00:45 |
| belle105 | thanks for the help and the time :) | Mar 31 00:46 |
| belle105 | oiahom | Mar 31 00:46 |
| belle105 | oiahm | Mar 31 00:46 |
| belle105 | sorry see my hands in action ? | Mar 31 00:46 |
| belle105 | oiaohm | Mar 31 00:46 |
| belle105 | what does your name mean? | Mar 31 00:47 |
| oiaohm | oiaohm= "Ok I Am Over Here Mate" | Mar 31 00:47 |
| belle105 | lol cool :) | Mar 31 00:48 |
| oiaohm | Overheating is bad design of one form or another. 1 bad chassis design. 2 overloading the design with likes of highpower Nvidia gpus. | Mar 31 00:50 |
| belle105 | problem is you don't get to find these things out in practice until you get it home. | Mar 31 00:51 |
| belle105 | overheating problem | Mar 31 00:51 |
| oiaohm | So excuse that is normal for laptops to be hot is badly wrong. Laptops are hot because people like 1 buying too many feature in a laptop so they don't have to have a desktop. 2 cheap junk(bad chassises). | Mar 31 00:51 |
| belle105 | i have a desktop, but unable to use it atm. its in storage. | Mar 31 00:52 |
| belle105 | i had it since 2008 | Mar 31 00:53 |
| belle105 | works fine | Mar 31 00:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3042720/software-games/amd-xconnect-aims-to-make-external-graphics-cards-for-laptops-much-more-reliable.html An attempt to work around problem. | Mar 31 00:53 |
| oiaohm | Yes external box for laptop for high powered graphics card so you don't cook the living heck out it. | Mar 31 00:53 |
| tessier | If you could chain external graphics cards on a bus the crypto currency guys would love it. | Mar 31 00:53 |
| oiaohm | belle105: desktops more air space simpler on cooling so last longer mostly because they are not getting over cook or transported/abused. | Mar 31 00:55 |
| belle105 | crypto currency as in encryptors ? | Mar 31 00:55 |
| belle105 | or as bit | Mar 31 00:55 |
| oiaohm | belle105: crypto currency covers stuff like bitcoins | Mar 31 00:55 |
| belle105 | yes ok | Mar 31 00:55 |
| belle105 | :) | Mar 31 00:56 |
| belle105 | that fan looks like a monster fan | Mar 31 00:58 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies most fun name is dogecoin | Mar 31 00:59 |
| belle105 | ha dogecoin :P | Mar 31 00:59 |
| belle105 | so many of them now | Mar 31 01:00 |
| belle105 | wasn't long ago since the argument if bitcoin was legitimate currency | Mar 31 01:01 |
| oiaohm | That dispute about if bitcoin is legitimate currency applies to all the crypto currencies | Mar 31 01:02 |
| belle105 | i imagine it would. i am not well read about it atm. never had a cause to use them. so far.... wondering if its a good thing to have different ones and if unifying them will invite more undesirable control over the internet. | Mar 31 01:05 |
| oiaohm | We don't have one unified global currency either. | Mar 31 01:08 |
| belle105 | true . but in EU there is one currency. excluding the UK | Mar 31 01:09 |
| belle105 | so i am wondering if they will attempt to unify it | Mar 31 01:10 |
| oiaohm | I would say unlikely. | Mar 31 01:10 |
| belle105 | i am not sure it is good for the internet to have too many regulations. | Mar 31 01:10 |
| belle105 | but that is another conversation | Mar 31 01:11 |
| belle105 | thanks oiahm G'day | Mar 31 01:11 |
| belle105 | oiaohm | Mar 31 01:11 |
| belle105 | :) | Mar 31 01:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/715442370628755456 | Mar 31 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @labwo @KurtVansteeland @tijd @RoelVerrycken https://t.co/eR6OQOS4Fu | Mar 31 04:09 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/715471244620005377 | Mar 31 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz EPO Appeal Board condemns examination delay https://t.co/eD29DoasDG | Mar 31 05:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.managingip.com | EPO: EPO Appeal Board condemns examination delay | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 31 05:35 | |
| schestowitz | Cited this yesterday | Mar 31 05:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715477394690183170 | Mar 31 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: What a bunch of db's. https://t.co/0TYg56XrQ7 | Mar 31 05:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why you should boycott #cloudflare both as host/Web developer and visitor https://t.co/i5FEjpu2wa they damage the #internet | Mar 31 05:56 | |
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| schestowitz | > x | Mar 31 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049715/microsoft-windows/bash-on-windows-is-just-the-beginning-for-microsofts-linux-experiments.html | Mar 31 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Bash on Windows: Only the beginning of the Microsoft-Linux experiment | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/opwm0 ] | Mar 31 06:04 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > tcsh was ported many, many years ago already. | Mar 31 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > - | Mar 31 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 06:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://blog.nullspace.io/batch.html | Mar 31 06:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nullspace.io | How bad is the Windows command line really? | Mar 31 06:04 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.wired.com/2016/03/microsoft-making-linux-apps-run-windows-isnt-crazy/ | Mar 31 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Why Microsoft Making Linux Apps Run on Windows Isn’t Crazy | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/opwm9 ] | Mar 31 06:05 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 06:05 |
| schestowitz | > EEE. Canonical is doing a Novell | Mar 31 06:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, so much has been said about this that I'd rather focus on EPO for now... | Mar 31 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Not exact | Mar 31 06:08 |
| oiaohm | Novell start porting Linux/Unix application to be windows native. | Mar 31 06:08 |
| oiaohm | Canonical is making Linux native binaries work on Windows. | Mar 31 06:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: funny what wired started reason for having Ubuntu compadiblity is why IBM made Odin for OS/2 with win16 support. | Mar 31 06:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Mar 31 06:11 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/unfiltered-opinion/open-source-and-microsoft-build.html | Mar 31 06:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itbusinessedge.com | Open Source and Microsoft Build | Mar 31 06:45 | |
| schestowitz | "One of the meetings that I remember most clearly was when Jim Allchin, who owned Windows at the time, met with me at my home. " | Mar 31 06:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Enderle | Mar 31 06:45 |
| schestowitz | meeting Microsoft at home | Mar 31 06:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Why you should boycott #cloudflare both as host/Web developer and visitor https://t.co/ffHr8RwAzb they damage the #internet | Mar 31 06:58 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/715493464276934656 | Mar 31 07:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: Or, why Facebook must die. https://t.co/b3K1pc80RX | Mar 31 07:06 | |
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| cubexyz | Microsoft's philosophy and "ethics" have always been bullshit | Mar 31 07:28 |
| cubexyz | the borg motif is apt, that's all they ever were | Mar 31 07:28 |
| cubexyz | and IBM and DEC.... they were both losers | Mar 31 07:29 |
| cubexyz | they did great work, but they messed up in the end | Mar 31 07:29 |
| cubexyz | IBM was a proto-Microsoft, hoarding as many hadware and software patents as possible | Mar 31 07:31 |
| cubexyz | basically IBM invented the hard drive and floppy drive | Mar 31 07:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Sabayon 16.04 GNOME Screenshot Tour | Mar 31 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Screenshot Tour | Mar 31 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Is Out, Bodhi Linux 4.0 Coming in August Based on Ubuntu 16.04 | Mar 31 07:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | chassis and 14-hour battery life | Mar 31 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acer Chromebook 14 arrives with aluminium chassis and 14-hour battery life | Tux Machines | Mar 31 07:35 | |
| cubexyz | you could even say IBM invented the modern computer (transistorized stored program computer) | Mar 31 07:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/715503496427081728 | Mar 31 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Commissioned by dark tank @CIGIonline: https://t.co/XX6LORVe6a | Mar 31 07:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Since a "dark net" does not exist (it's a propaganda term) this poll is loaded, misleading, biased https://t.co/nJOhd5bhgV | Mar 31 07:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715502468319297537 | Mar 31 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Одна из так и не закрытых в последней версии уязвимостей OSx умещается в 1 твит. #Apple опасна. Как все неопенсоурс. https://t.co/mYNZiuWm63 | Mar 31 07:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Apple's fruitless rootless security broken by code that fits in a tweet https://t.co/DKFcQFiPWQ #apple #security | Mar 31 07:39 | |
| cubexyz | and the funny thing about software was, in the old days you got often got the source code for your operating system! | Mar 31 07:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txt | Mar 31 07:40 |
| cubexyz | DMS or OS/360-MVT? Full source was/is available | Mar 31 07:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, my advice to everyone is simple... | Mar 31 07:47 |
| cubexyz | stick with some FOSS operating system, my main recommendations are: slackware and derivatives like vector, and openbsd | Mar 31 07:48 |
| cubexyz | also the old IBM operating systems are interesting enough to try on emulated hardware | Mar 31 07:48 |
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| cubexyz | windows 10 using bash may not end up a bad thing | Mar 31 08:09 |
| cubexyz | gets windows folks used to bash at least | Mar 31 08:10 |
| schestowitz | no | Mar 31 08:14 |
| schestowitz | helps MS keep enterprises on Windows | Mar 31 08:14 |
| schestowitz | saying it's the best of both worlds | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | also compromises security | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | people's private keys and such stored on Vista 10 with spying, back doors, etc. | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | it's a farce | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | but will they pull it off? | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | I doubt it | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | people could run bash on Windows befor | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | not many did | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | cygwin for instance | Mar 31 08:15 |
| cubexyz | it's spreading more GPL software though | Mar 31 08:15 |
| schestowitz | I used it 15 years ago | Mar 31 08:15 |
| cubexyz | well, of course there's no reason to go the other way :) | Mar 31 08:16 |
| schestowitz | and bosses can insist people don't use gnu/linux at work | Mar 31 08:17 |
| cubexyz | if you're already in Linux/BSD-land you'll not move to windows 10 | Mar 31 08:17 |
| schestowitz | "just 'upgrade' to Vista 10, Jake...' | Mar 31 08:17 |
| cubexyz | the scientists and thinkers will stick with Linux/BSD/FOSS-OS | Mar 31 08:17 |
| cubexyz | no one will want to run windows 10 as the server, it just doesn't work well with forced upgrades | Mar 31 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Positive progress on WebKitGTK+ security | Mar 31 08:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free Software and Proprietary Games, Vivaldi | Mar 31 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and Proprietary Games, Vivaldi | Tux Machines | Mar 31 08:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 08:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 09:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 31/3/2016: Bodhi Linux 3.2.0, Kirigami UI | Mar 31 09:00 |
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| __martin__ | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2452793/sco-vs-ibm-13-year-old-linux-dispute-returns-as-sco-files-new-appeal | Mar 31 10:55 |
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| __martin__ | april the first it tomorrow right | Mar 31 10:55 |
| __martin__ | meanwhile.. LINE is not an emulator | Mar 31 10:56 |
| __martin__ | :'D | Mar 31 10:56 |
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| Sudo_roots | Do you think microsoft using bash is a bad thing for linux? | Mar 31 12:25 |
| razielle_tzu | it could go either way | Mar 31 12:28 |
| Sudo_roots | I hope not | Mar 31 12:33 |
| Sudo_roots | Microsoft seems to making good stuff now. | Mar 31 12:33 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Mar 31 12:34 |
| Sudo_roots | I hated them for years. | Mar 31 12:34 |
| razielle_tzu | good stuff? | Mar 31 12:34 |
| Sudo_roots | only ran their stuff b/c of other people in the house | Mar 31 12:34 |
| Sudo_roots | By good stuff I meant good software | Mar 31 12:34 |
| Sosumi | m$ is just reviving the unix subsystem for windows | Mar 31 12:34 |
| Sudo_roots | The OS sucked for years. | Mar 31 12:34 |
| razielle_tzu | the OS still sucks | Mar 31 12:35 |
| Sudo_roots | It's has got better | Mar 31 12:35 |
| Sudo_roots | I like windows 10 | Mar 31 12:35 |
| Sosumi | but what they seem to be bringing is the possibility of running linux apps on windows | Mar 31 12:35 |
| Sudo_roots | YES! | Mar 31 12:35 |
| Sudo_roots | that is true | Mar 31 12:36 |
| Sosumi | lol windows 10 is horrible, still a disjointed GUI | Mar 31 12:36 |
| Sudo_roots | and they want to pull developers. | Mar 31 12:36 |
| Sosumi | 2 control panels, lol | Mar 31 12:36 |
| razielle_tzu | which is fine... it just means there's a chance of no windows ports, just linux apps | Mar 31 12:36 |
| Sudo_roots | most use macs; which has the bash system installed | Mar 31 12:36 |
| Sudo_roots | Yes I agree | Mar 31 12:36 |
| razielle_tzu | so why install windows if everything is linux based? | Mar 31 12:36 |
| Sudo_roots | People say the new OS is collecting data. Those same people by android phones | Mar 31 12:37 |
| Sudo_roots | buy* | Mar 31 12:37 |
| Sosumi | yes | Mar 31 12:37 |
| Sudo_roots | Why install windows? | Mar 31 12:37 |
| Sudo_roots | good question? the UI? | Mar 31 12:37 |
| Sosumi | no idea *rollseyes* | Mar 31 12:37 |
| razielle_tzu | the ui is horrible | Mar 31 12:37 |
| Sudo_roots | What UI do you like? | Mar 31 12:38 |
| Sosumi | I don't use windows on any of my machines | Mar 31 12:38 |
| Sudo_roots | PS4 UI sucks | Mar 31 12:38 |
| razielle_tzu | i prefer lxde | Mar 31 12:38 |
| Sosumi | aqua and kde | Mar 31 12:38 |
| razielle_tzu | kde/plasma is good too | Mar 31 12:39 |
| Sudo_roots | lxde looks like old windows | Mar 31 12:39 |
| Sudo_roots | windows xp | Mar 31 12:39 |
| razielle_tzu | by6 that token so do mate, cinnamon and xfce | Mar 31 12:39 |
| Sosumi | xp gui looked like a toy back then | Mar 31 12:39 |
| Sudo_roots | lol | Mar 31 12:39 |
| Sosumi | look mom, colors | Mar 31 12:40 |
| Sudo_roots | I hated windows vista and 7 | Mar 31 12:40 |
| abeNd-org | 2000 ui was the last non-toy looking one | Mar 31 12:40 |
| Sudo_roots | 2000 had issues. Not UI related | Mar 31 12:41 |
| Sudo_roots | windows 10 actual works | Mar 31 12:41 |
| Sosumi | at least both vista and 7 tried to have a consistent GUI | Mar 31 12:41 |
| Sosumi | and aero actually looked fine | Mar 31 12:41 |
| razielle_tzu | i run 7 on the computer i game on, verything else is running bsd or linux | Mar 31 12:41 |
| Sudo_roots | aero seem to be graphic card friendly | Mar 31 12:42 |
| Sosumi | you could turn the transparency effects off | Mar 31 12:43 |
| Sosumi | for performance and battery conservation | Mar 31 12:43 |
| Sudo_roots | That's bad design then. | Mar 31 12:43 |
| Sosumi | it's giving users the choice | Mar 31 12:43 |
| Sudo_roots | the problem is windows always set min requirement for hardware to low | Mar 31 12:44 |
| Sudo_roots | then it doesn't run good | Mar 31 12:44 |
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| Sosumi | specially when almost everyone buys $500 aptops | Mar 31 12:44 |
| Sosumi | *latops | Mar 31 12:44 |
| Sosumi | *laptops | Mar 31 12:45 |
| Sosumi | so everything counts | Mar 31 12:45 |
| Sudo_roots | people buy cheap/low end machine and complain windows sucks. Then that same person buys a $2000 dollar mac and love it | Mar 31 12:45 |
| Sosumi | :) | Mar 31 12:46 |
| abeNd-org | except the occ-rift folks, dont they say all macs suck? | Mar 31 12:46 |
| Sudo_roots | if everyone going to buy $500 dollar laptops then that should be what microsoft aims for. | Mar 31 12:46 |
| Sosumi | nah | Mar 31 12:46 |
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| abeNd-org | I don't think MS actually wanted the $150 netbook market either | Mar 31 12:46 |
| abeNd-org | low end atom processors with 512meg ram & a sorry tiny resolution screen? | Mar 31 12:47 |
| Sudo_roots | yeah those netbook worked good. I install linux on one | Mar 31 12:47 |
| Sudo_roots | I wish those came back | Mar 31 12:47 |
| razielle_tzu | i have one somewhere | Mar 31 12:47 |
| Sudo_roots | by Girlfriend broke the one I had. | Mar 31 12:48 |
| abeNd-org | heh, HP probooks are just about that, 1366x768 with tiny screens, under powered processors, etc | Mar 31 12:48 |
| Sudo_roots | I loved that machine; after installing linux | Mar 31 12:48 |
| Sudo_roots | that's the problem; those HP have resource hungry Windows on it | Mar 31 12:49 |
| abeNd-org | no, 1366x768 is pretty much not usable, i wouldnt wish that on anyone, especially with those tiny screens. the disks that come with those arent SSD, but the slowest HDD still available, etc. my 6 yr old e6510 with a samsung evo850 is faster | Mar 31 12:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @VivaVivaldi VivaVivaldi! is out! https://t.co/KMGake5KaS | Mar 31 13:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Stories via @horn_cds @kogcord | Mar 31 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | VivaVivaldi! | Mar 31 13:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:00 | |
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| MinceR | netbooks aren't underpowered, "modern" software is bloated | Mar 31 14:24 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: indeed, like Plasma 5 | Mar 31 14:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ElmarFasel/status/715548251039080448 | Mar 31 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElmarFasel: @MarcusBiel while at the same time: https://t.co/tnHGJNotxZ | Mar 31 14:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 31 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/venzann/status/715603465553055745 | Mar 31 14:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@venzann: @thurrott Nope. Lots are still grumpy over patents - https://t.co/HfGKagrMCU | Mar 31 14:51 | |
| schestowitz | context https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/715603052372172800 | Mar 31 14:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@thurrott: #ptb I assume by this point even the most insane open source guys are OK with Microsoft. | Mar 31 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Mar 31 14:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/vivainio/status/715589222552498177 | Mar 31 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vivainio: @mitsuhiko "techrights" is still going on I think | Mar 31 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pslobo/status/715573850776473601 | Mar 31 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pslobo: @film_girl Yeah, but the truth aint always so great... https://t.co/gOebFZvdvb | Mar 31 14:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/5MAw9xqhdq | Mar 31 15:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/715540022401843200 | Mar 31 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @HenryDimbleby @janinegibson ಠ_ಠ | Mar 31 15:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715622553608282112 | Mar 31 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: @schestowitz That was a dark episode in history for sure...however, I fear we're on the verge of another--one that's far far worse. | Mar 31 15:34 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-countries-that-elected-their-own-trump-long-time-ago/ | Mar 31 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | A Look At Our Future: 5 Nations Who Elected Their Trump | Cracked.com | Mar 31 15:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715623936189304832 | Mar 31 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: There are many reasons I wish people wouldn't use Charp for coding. Much less use the .NET platform. https://t.co/CVjxCt0knt | Mar 31 15:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: On #microsoft with #ximian #novell #xamarin #mono #moonlight etc. https://t.co/37zkLiOI1l #swpats Trojan horses | Mar 31 15:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darksim905/status/715626274509754368 | Mar 31 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darksim905: @schestowitz @AnarchistDalek Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people who actually do want Microsoft to continue to be successful :-) | Mar 31 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | there are also many proprietary software proponents out there... | Mar 31 15:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715626308663951360 | Mar 31 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I thought you meant washboard @schestowitz You know. Those things you strum with a guitar plectrum. | Mar 31 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe they needed it for Ballmer's shirt | Mar 31 15:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715627110858104834 | Mar 31 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz C# can be fun, and is your main friend if you use Unity (the game engine, not window manager). | Mar 31 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | C# is platform lockin | Mar 31 15:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715627285353742336 | Mar 31 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz but I imagine your worries come more from a platform standpoint rather than the language itself | Mar 31 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Mar 31 15:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715627471513657344 | Mar 31 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz yeah, it's a shame that. And why I use other engines instead of Unity. I don't intend to ever learn Charp | Mar 31 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/fordham-2016-copyright-and-trade-mark.html?showComment=1459448690319#c6277509502471203839 | Mar 31 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Fordham 2016: Copyright and trade mark - what does the future hold? [ http://ur1.ca/opzsv ] | Mar 31 15:57 | |
| schestowitz | " Dimitris pronounced it E.U.I.P.O. " | Mar 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715628603204116482 | Mar 31 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Shirt did look a bit filthy last time I talked to him @schestowitz Bill Gates playing the ukulele at Boston LinuxCon 2006 finished me. | Mar 31 15:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715629415359766533 https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715629502756478976 | Mar 31 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @schestowitz @retroDoomer I get that it's not perfect... but it's also not that bad anymore. Different story if you depend on some specific | Mar 31 15:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @schestowitz @retroDoomer stuff like Windows.Forms or whatever, but it certainly has come a long way thanks to Xamarin | Mar 31 15:59 | |
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| schestowitz | No, Xamarin is a Trojan horse that helps #microsoft dominate and control developers, under false pretenses | Mar 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715629716842102784 | Mar 31 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Can't argue with that @schestowitz | Mar 31 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715629766691332096 | Mar 31 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz Which is kind of the point though, the specifics. As long as it's an MS project, it'll never have platform equality | Mar 31 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715630375695986688 | Mar 31 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz it becomes more of a discussion about frameworks than C# itself at this point though | Mar 31 16:03 | |
| schestowitz | not necessarily, C# in its own right is tightly connected to and generalisable to a framework (.NET) | Mar 31 16:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715630658719121408 | Mar 31 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz Yeah sorry, I refer to it all as C#. Can't really have one without the other afaik | Mar 31 16:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big karma points to linux foundation for | Mar 31 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | helping to educate about #freesw enforcement | Mar 31 16:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gocertify.com | Certification Watch (Vol. 19, No. 13) - GoCertify | Mar 31 16:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five great keyboard alternatives for Android | Mar 31 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tablets https://t.co/EsDvEZK4yM | Mar 31 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Five great keyboard alternatives for Android tablets - TechRepublic | Mar 31 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Nexus 6P vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge—Two | Mar 31 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Android’s finest https://t.co/M0nOkYwwWy | Mar 31 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | Google Nexus 6P vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge—Two of Android's finest | Mar 31 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Status QtWebEngine in KDEPIM | Mar 31 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-famillemontel.org | Status QtWebEngine in KDEPIM | KDEPIM KDE and opensource | Mar 31 16:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now | Mar 31 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo | Mar 31 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for $230 and up https://t.co/Bbh9bGmI73 | Mar 31 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MJ Technology's Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230 and up - Liliputing | Mar 31 16:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @CrowdfundCon favourited 'MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230...' | Mar 31 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big | Mar 31 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | milestone https://t.co/T8m0iOcVdG | Mar 31 16:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 16:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Legacy PCs Continue Nose-diving In 2016 | Mar 31 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/InCETfpliG (mrpogson.com) "PCs, | Mar 31 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers and some gadgets, many running | Mar 31 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux." | Mar 31 16:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Legacy PCs Continue Nose-diving In 2016 | Robert Pogson | Mar 31 16:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Is Looking Great, Running Well | Mar 31 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Is Looking Great, Running Well - Phoronix | Mar 31 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Don't Starve: Shipwrecked Expansion sails out | Mar 31 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Early Access, Linux supported | Mar 31 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Don't Starve: Shipwrecked Expansion sails out of Early Access, Linux supported | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CodeWeavers Announces CrossOver 15.1.0 for | Mar 31 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8.1 | Mar 31 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CodeWeavers Announces CrossOver 15.1.0 for Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8.1 | Mar 31 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now | Mar 31 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo | Mar 31 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for $230 and up https://t.co/kS68B24g4e | Mar 31 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230 and up | Tux Machines | Mar 31 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big | Mar 31 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | milestone https://t.co/TLTggf0ouT | Mar 31 17:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone | Tux Machines | Mar 31 17:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/oHmn7xnw2Y | Mar 31 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 31 17:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Abot — How To Make Your Own Digital Assistant | Mar 31 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With This Free And Open Source Tool | Mar 31 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Abot — How To Make Your Own Digital Assistant With This Free And Open Source Tool | Tux Machines | Mar 31 17:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unreal Engine 4.11 Released With Better | Mar 31 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Performance & Greater Visuals | Mar 31 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unreal Engine 4.11 Released With Better Performance & Greater Visuals - Phoronix | Mar 31 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/xscmanns/status/715653219465043968 | Mar 31 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xscmanns: and I've only tested a good dozen using Steam_Linux on FreeBSD w/linux compat. The list shall grow https://t.co/qIkjhRYWzi | Mar 31 17:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone https://t.co/kN95sXwRTX #gnu #linux #games | Mar 31 17:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There Is A Steam Linux Game Where Nouveau On | Mar 31 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kepler Is Outperforming NVIDIA's Blob | Mar 31 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | There Is A Steam Linux Game Where Nouveau On Kepler Is Outperforming NVIDIA's Blob - Phoronix | Mar 31 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Xiaomi's compact Mi 5 could be a game | Mar 31 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | changer https://t.co/CP03YNETAa | Mar 31 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Why Xiaomi's compact Mi 5 could be a game changer - AndroidPIT | Mar 31 17:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Mar 31 18:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.expertreviews.co.uk | Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Expert Reviews | Mar 31 18:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Markdown-friendly Simplenote comes to Windows and Linux | Mar 31 18:04 | |
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| cubexyz | openbsd isn't bloated | Mar 31 18:15 |
| cubexyz | I just had to say that :) | Mar 31 18:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 31 18:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Mar 31 18:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Tux Machines | Mar 31 18:34 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs...' | Mar 31 18:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Mar 31 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret | Mar 31 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Mar 31 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BRmCq6tUBh (techrights.org) | Mar 31 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maramala/status/715672022030819333 | Mar 31 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Techrights | Mar 31 18:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maramala: .@schestowitz Mind blown (...though obvious in hindsight, but still). Always wondered why we had to save everything back when I was in SEO. | Mar 31 18:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and...' | Mar 31 18:55 | |
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| oiaohm | https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/PATENTS.TXT still limited that you cannot fork it. | Mar 31 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | mono/PATENTS.TXT at master · mono/mono · GitHub | Mar 31 18:55 | |
| MinceR | 01 005422 < TweetTuxMachines> @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Mar 31 18:56 |
| MinceR | april fools already? | Mar 31 18:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/715673817981526017 | Mar 31 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz too early, my insider report is scheduled for tomorrow | Mar 31 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is here | Mar 31 18:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 31 18:59 |
| MinceR | oh, now i see the tags | Mar 31 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715675500316921856 | Mar 31 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz I wish. | Mar 31 19:03 | |
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| schestowitz | I'd be the first one to congratulate them. Spend a decade on this. 20,000+ posts. | Mar 31 19:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715675798120898560 https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715675898410897408 | Mar 31 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz simple truth is i actually thought @sjvn ’s story on Ubuntu/Windows at first was an early April fools prank too... | Mar 31 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz @sjvn but it’s not! .. man do i hate April 1st ... | Mar 31 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | SJVN didn't 'break' the news though. Three Microsoft 'news' sites said it the night before and i wrote about it. | Mar 31 19:04 |
| schestowitz | first reports: http://mspoweruser.com/you-might-be-able-to-run-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-10-soon/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-show-bash-on-linux-running-on-windows-10/ http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-set-announce-bash-linux-running-windows-10-according-reports I watch these things closely | Mar 31 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mspoweruser.com | You might be able to run Bash on Ubuntu on Windows 10 soon - MSPoweruser [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t2 ] | Mar 31 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft to show Bash on Linux running on Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t3 ] | Mar 31 19:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winbeta.org | Microsoft set to announce bash on Linux running on Windows 10 [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t4 ] | Mar 31 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | whereupon I wrote http://techrights.org/2016/03/29/microsoft-attacks-linux/ (trying to focus on #epo but couldn't just totally ignore this) | Mar 31 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oq0tb ] | Mar 31 19:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715677020223569921 | Mar 31 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @TechJournalist @schestowitz I sweated bullets on that one since I had to draw the lines between the dots. Fortunately, I nailed it. | Mar 31 19:08 | |
| schestowitz | it was basically Microsoft reinventing cygwin (which I used 15+ years ago), early reports misled | Mar 31 19:08 |
| MinceR | i thought it was an attempt to get some PR out of their cancelled project to let android applications run on winblows | Mar 31 19:09 |
| schestowitz | "None. Microsoft declares darkness the standard." http://www.zpub.com/un/bill/light.html nothing invented until #microsoft says so. | Mar 31 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zpub.com | How many Microsoft engineers needed to screw a light bulb ?? | Mar 31 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that too | Mar 31 19:11 |
| schestowitz | it never really happened | Mar 31 19:11 |
| schestowitz | last I read, they called it off | Mar 31 19:11 |
| schestowitz | just under a month ago | Mar 31 19:11 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned this in passing | Mar 31 19:11 |
| schestowitz | they're losing it | Mar 31 19:12 |
| schestowitz | but trying to drag linux down with them | Mar 31 19:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715677184212471808 | Mar 31 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @sjvn that you did. hope the traffic analytics etc, rewarded you for your efforts. | Mar 31 19:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715677646483496960 | Mar 31 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz @schestowitz @maryjofoley got the first dots. I think I was the 1st to say "This can't be containers, it has to be native." | Mar 31 19:13 | |
| schestowitz | coLinux :-) | Mar 31 19:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.colinux.org/ | Mar 31 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.colinux.org | Cooperative Linux | Mar 31 19:13 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-deal-with-trade-union-not-what-it.html?showComment=1459433679033#c2993788038032819246 | Mar 31 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO deal with trade union - not what it seems | Mar 31 19:16 | |
| schestowitz | " I am wondering whether these back checks are in compliance with Rule 153 EPC provided that the "visitor" is a professional representative. " | Mar 31 19:16 |
| schestowitz | EPO... | Mar 31 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715680401633775617 | Mar 31 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz @maryfofoley I know ccLinux. I'll be writing a piece on what WSL is, and isn't and it's place in history soon. | Mar 31 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | There are a couple more examples of 'prior art' whose name I cannot recall. Anyway, it's not a new thing. | Mar 31 19:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stephstad/status/715687810158751744 | Mar 31 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stephstad: @schestowitz not an April Fools joke! We just made the announcement - both of those links work now (for me) https://t.co/dZ07Gq1qKS | Mar 31 19:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RedHatNews: [NEWS] Red Hat Expands Red Hat Developer Program with No-Cost Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer Subscription https://t.co/MnRYC4Xf3D | Mar 31 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Mar 31 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/87646 | Mar 31 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free RHEL for Developers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 19:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and...' | Mar 31 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What one silly app reveals about Google's grand | Mar 31 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | plan for Android https://t.co/WXr1LK8ZxO | Mar 31 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | What one silly app reveals about Google's grand plan for Android | Computerworld | Mar 31 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition | Mar 31 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Laptop Launches in Europe | Mar 31 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CmO0AJdOyP (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 31 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Laptop Launches in Europe | Mar 31 19:58 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201557 | Mar 31 20:05 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: the history of EEE events most of the time it ends up back firing. | Mar 31 21:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the question is how many years. | Mar 31 21:06 |
| schestowitz | example? | Mar 31 21:19 |
| oiaohm | flash and active-x both attempts to EEE web standards but now being replaced by html5 | Mar 31 21:24 |
| MinceR | html5 is flash2.0 | Mar 31 21:25 |
| oiaohm | Smaller area of fight in html5 | Mar 31 21:25 |
| MinceR | it has patent-encumbered codecs as the standard, blobs, DRM, shitty implementations, extreme complexity | Mar 31 21:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, because the fascists won | Mar 31 21:25 |
| oiaohm | Won and lost. | Mar 31 21:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: flash and active-x both attempt to EEE web standards. Now those parties are now in a dog fight with each other over html5. | Mar 31 21:27 |
| oiaohm | Has attempting EEE helped them long term really no. | Mar 31 21:28 |
| MinceR | well, they got the w3c to rubberstamp their shit with strings attached as the "standard" | Mar 31 21:29 |
| oiaohm | Ms used RTF to EEE Office market. Result down the track governements demarding open standards because they pushing RTF as a open standard that did not turn out to be. | Mar 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | and this time disabling a plugin won't get rid of the bullshit | Mar 31 21:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/#privacy-disclosure It does pay to read more on it. | Mar 31 21:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: funny enough being standard conforming requires off switch option. | Mar 31 21:35 |
| MinceR | how much bullshit is necessary to make DRM acceptable? | Mar 31 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Was Flash EEE at all? | Mar 31 21:39 |
| schestowitz | Never thought of it that way | Mar 31 21:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: when did Microsoft EEE backfire? | Mar 31 21:40 |
| MinceR | also, if EEE backfires and you can't tell whom the EEE involved in n00buntu on Backdoors10 is directed against, then whom will it backfire against? | Mar 31 21:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194310 | Mar 31 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft EEE with #mono inside #debian and #ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/images/1/10/Mono-the-trojan.png so who was right about Mono after all? ;-) Now #microsoft ware | Mar 31 21:41 | |
| schestowitz | "What’s the news, Roy? Are Microsoft employees sneaking it back into default dependencies or otherwise having success at pushing it into software everyone loves?" | Mar 31 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft bought Jo Shields and the rest of the gang. Today there was a lot of Xamarin PR... | Mar 31 21:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: RTF was made by Microsoft to EEE the Office suite market. It worked at first. But RTF is what starts the demards for open standards for document storage. | Mar 31 21:42 |
| schestowitz | and they got DOC etc. | Mar 31 21:42 |
| schestowitz | how did that backfire?? | Mar 31 21:42 |
| schestowitz | And they killed wordprerfect with formats | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | RTF was left behind as a mirage | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | while Microsoft EEEd it | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Watch Skype now | Mar 31 21:43 |
| oiaohm | That it working at first. | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Extended (spying) | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | and Linux no lomger supported for some things | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | so... move to Windows | Mar 31 21:43 |
| MinceR | and then they bought ISO and got it to fast-track/rubberstamp OOXML | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | after you got 'addicted' to it on Linux | Mar 31 21:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: OOXML is a moving target too | Mar 31 21:44 |
| oiaohm | So once RTF turned into a mirage the government parties who now felt tricked have started writing rules demarding open standards. | Mar 31 21:44 |
| schestowitz | MS never implemented ECMA OOXML | Mar 31 21:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a publicity stunt/coup | Mar 31 21:44 |
| MinceR | and of course the thousands of retards plaguing the IT industry believe all the bullshit | Mar 31 21:44 |
| MinceR | (millions?) | Mar 31 21:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: of course, the trick works without them doing anything right | Mar 31 21:44 |
| schestowitz | people not pass those rubbish files around | Mar 31 21:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Microsoft is forced by governement requirements to open open doors with OOXML for compadiblity events. | Mar 31 21:44 |
| schestowitz | and then EUropean govs complain about "incompatibility' | Mar 31 21:44 |
| schestowitz | (OOXML) | Mar 31 21:45 |
| schestowitz | As many warned 10 years ago | Mar 31 21:45 |
| schestowitz | now Munich can use Ubuntu | Mar 31 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ...in Vista 10 | Mar 31 21:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes those complains are all created out of what MS promised. | Mar 31 21:45 |
| schestowitz | with "compatible" MS Office... | Mar 31 21:45 |
| schestowitz | anyway, 3am, gn | Mar 31 21:45 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft promised with RTF one office file format no matter the Office suite to win EEE. | Mar 31 21:45 |
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| oiaohm | The problem with EEE is you end up held to what ever promise you make to have it successes. | Mar 31 21:47 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: ubuntu on windows 10 why would you as a governement write windows programs comes the problem. | Mar 31 21:47 |
| MinceR | that's when the incompatible extensions to "ubuntu" on Backdoors10 will come into play | Mar 31 21:48 |
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| MinceR | and once the suckers are hooked on those, "ubuntu" on Backdoors10 will start becoming slower | Mar 31 21:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember incompatible extentions on RTF trigger the supper demard for open standards now. | Mar 31 21:48 |
| MinceR | where's that "super demand"? | Mar 31 21:49 |
| MinceR | in OOXML? in HTML5? in UEFI? | Mar 31 21:49 |
| MinceR | in crApp Store? | Mar 31 21:49 |
| oiaohm | OOXML from Microsoft comes because without attempting to provide open standard at all equals no more contracts. | Mar 31 21:49 |
| MinceR | the imbeciles learned to love DRM, closed platforms, lock-in, tivoization, bloat, you name it | Mar 31 21:50 |
| MinceR | if it's shit, they love it | Mar 31 21:50 |
| oiaohm | MS Office supporting ODF also comes from that. | Mar 31 21:50 |
| MinceR | and they'll attack you for daring to speak out against it | Mar 31 21:50 |
| MinceR | yeah, m$ office supporting ODF deliberately badly | Mar 31 21:50 |
| MinceR | m$ office isn't even compatible with itself | Mar 31 21:50 |
| MinceR | yeah, they got ISO to rubberstamp OOXML, so apparently that requirement is fulfilled, even though OOXML is perfectly useless | Mar 31 21:51 |
| oiaohm | That deliberately badly is getting them on the wrong side of many governments because it not meeting microsoft RTF promise. | Mar 31 21:51 |
| oiaohm | In fact some are forcing Microsoft to provide them with software for nothing due to breach of contract. | Mar 31 21:52 |
| oiaohm | Payment was conditional on ODF support working. | Mar 31 21:52 |
| oiaohm | As I said its how many years EEE has the bad habit of down the track turning nasty on the one that attempts it. | Mar 31 21:53 |
| MinceR | that's what the bribes are for | Mar 31 21:54 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the other thing notice a lot of people are being investaged and done for bribes over software at the moment. | Mar 31 21:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: EEE normally does involve bribes in places and those backfire in time as well. | Mar 31 21:58 |
| MinceR | i doubt we've seen the last of corruption | Mar 31 21:59 |
| MinceR | not by a long shot | Mar 31 21:59 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying we have seen the end of it. | Mar 31 22:00 |
| oiaohm | FOSS stuff does limit options for corruption. | Mar 31 22:01 |
| MinceR | which might be yet another reason the oligarchs are trying hard to destroy it | Mar 31 22:01 |
| oiaohm | The problem with Ubuntu on Windows is Ubuntu has been careful to get into the promise running unmodified Ubuntu binaries. | Mar 31 22:11 |
| oiaohm | That kinda adds extend problem as that would require modified Ubuntu binaries. | Mar 31 22:11 |
| MinceR | and how will that promise be enforced? | Mar 31 22:11 |
| oiaohm | Its what Microsoft has promise to customers. | Mar 31 22:12 |
| oiaohm | If it does not happen down the road Microsoft will end up paying for it like RTF has triggered now. | Mar 31 22:12 |
| MinceR | ah, so in no way whatsoever | Mar 31 22:13 |
| MinceR | as for customers, m$ has been fucking them over hard for years and yet they still have customers | Mar 31 22:13 |
| MinceR | and cultists | Mar 31 22:13 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that most humans are simply incapable of learning | Mar 31 22:13 |
| oiaohm | Supply requirements do hit Microsoft. | Mar 31 22:14 |
| MinceR | i'll believe it when i see it happen. | Mar 31 22:14 |
| oiaohm | You have seen MS Office having to add ODF then keep on improving it to keep up with Supply requirements. | Mar 31 22:14 |
| oiaohm | Now if supply requirements becomes able to run Linux Standard base testsuite then things will get fun. | Mar 31 22:15 |
| oiaohm | Basically Microsoft with Ubuntu on Windows risks opening pandora. | Mar 31 22:15 |
| MinceR | except the LSB is maintained the LF | Mar 31 22:16 |
| MinceR | and m$ has bought itself into LF | Mar 31 22:16 |
| MinceR | and even has some allies hellbent on destroying GNU/Linux in there | Mar 31 22:16 |
| MinceR | the LSB is worse than useless at this point, just like the LF | Mar 31 22:16 |
| oiaohm | Linux world is like hurding cats no single point is fully in control. | Mar 31 22:17 |
| oiaohm | But single points can bring annoying trouble. | Mar 31 22:17 |
| MinceR | ask the distros following ratcrap's lead and claiming it would be too much work to remove cancerd's tentacles from everything about that. | Mar 31 22:18 |
| MinceR | especially debilian | Mar 31 22:18 |
| oiaohm | systemd will get simpler to remove in time. | Mar 31 22:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, because it will take over everything | Mar 31 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| MinceR | and then removing systemd will mean installing a different OS and using different programs | Mar 31 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Do you know why cgroup management had to be in init 1. | Mar 31 22:19 |
| MinceR | so, where do you see the maximum extent of cancerd? | Mar 31 22:19 |
| MinceR | because everything had to be in pid1 | Mar 31 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Wrong | Mar 31 22:20 |
| MinceR | because separation of concerns is for unix | Mar 31 22:20 |
| oiaohm | There is a Linux kernel design issue handling cgroups. | Mar 31 22:20 |
| MinceR | and so is memory protection and multiprocessing | Mar 31 22:20 |
| oiaohm | Solution is in fact cgroup v2 and with cgroup v2 allows proper cgroup namespace splitting. | Mar 31 22:20 |
| MinceR | even if they make Linux require running systemd, that does not change my point | Mar 31 22:20 |
| MinceR | even if they make Linux require running systemd _and_ incapable of running any other process beside it, that does not change my point | Mar 31 22:21 |
| oiaohm | What I am talking about will in time remove systemd from being required. | Mar 31 22:21 |
| MinceR | and there already are a lot of things in cancerd that have nothing to do with cgroups or reaping zombies or process management | Mar 31 22:21 |
| MinceR | so, again, where will they stop? | Mar 31 22:21 |
| oiaohm | That is looking at this from the wrong way. | Mar 31 22:24 |
| oiaohm | To work out exactly what was broken with cgroups and namespaces required having something to push it to limits. | Mar 31 22:24 |
| MinceR | it didn't require turning most major distros into useless crap, though | Mar 31 22:25 |
| MinceR | yet that's exactly what they did. | Mar 31 22:25 |
| oiaohm | systemd distrupting other tools attempting to use cgroups and so on. leads to that stuff being fixed up. | Mar 31 22:25 |
| MinceR | for whom? | Mar 31 22:25 |
| MinceR | who will use that stuff, once cancerd eats everything in unix? | Mar 31 22:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 with namespace cgroup mode allows a namespaced section to run own cgroups | Mar 31 22:26 |
| oiaohm | Without messing with system wide or using anything other than kernel syscalls. | Mar 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | also, did NTPD try to use cgroups? | Mar 31 22:26 |
| MinceR | did crond? | Mar 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | or did apache or lighttpd? | Mar 31 22:27 |
| MinceR | or perhaps grub or elilo used cgroups? | Mar 31 22:27 |
| oiaohm | Really lot of wrong examples mixed in there. | Mar 31 22:28 |
| oiaohm | apache and cron both had extentions to use cgroups to restriect sub processes from inflicting hell on the system. | Mar 31 22:28 |
| oiaohm | cgroups are about controlling how much cpu/mem and other resources a group of processes can use. | Mar 31 22:29 |
| oiaohm | That is a highly useful thing. | Mar 31 22:29 |
| oiaohm | The fact with cgroup v1 it would not stack properly and other things made those features in kernel fairly much not useable. | Mar 31 22:30 |
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| MinceR | depends on what you consider "wrong" | Mar 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | point is that there's no scope to cancerd, there's no rhyme or reason to what it gobbles up | Mar 31 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Allowing process to be listed in 2 incompadible cgroups. | Mar 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | there's no way of knowing how or where or when or if ever it will stop | Mar 31 22:31 |
| oiaohm | So causing a system lock up. I don't see how that could ever be right. | Mar 31 22:31 |
| MinceR | (well, except that once the fascists wipe out computing, that will take cancerd out) | Mar 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | sounds like cgroups is a huge fuckup that should never have been attempted | Mar 31 22:32 |
| oiaohm | systemd started as something to attempt to use all the functionality Linux kernel in fact offers in a init system. | Mar 31 22:32 |
| MinceR | they just can't get it right and pile errors on errors | Mar 31 22:32 |
| oiaohm | systemd proved cgroup v1 design was not repairable. | Mar 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | "to use all the functionality in underlying software" is a terrible design goal | Mar 31 22:33 |
| oiaohm | But a great test suite goal. | Mar 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | unless you're building a test tool | Mar 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Mar 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | but systemd was never marketed as a test suite | Mar 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | it was marketed as an init system | Mar 31 22:33 |
| oiaohm | If you read the first release statement it clearly states the goal. | Mar 31 22:33 |
| MinceR | is that compatible with the monster it already bloated into? | Mar 31 22:34 |
| oiaohm | This is why I am kinda not supprised that it going all directions. | Mar 31 22:34 |
| MinceR | afaik even poettering couldn't really define what cancerd is supposed to be | Mar 31 22:34 |
| oiaohm | He did define it as a init system built for Linux using all of it functionality | Mar 31 22:35 |
| oiaohm | For the most secure init system possible. | Mar 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | well, it is not an init system | Mar 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | and calling it secure is even more laughable | Mar 31 22:35 |
| MinceR | the latest marketing bullshit is "systemd is a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system.[C" | Mar 31 22:36 |
| oiaohm | That was the goal. | Mar 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | from https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ | Mar 31 22:36 |
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| oiaohm | Did I say they have made it. | Mar 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | that is not a thing | Mar 31 22:36 |
| MinceR | that's like calling a text editor "a set of bits that do something on a computer" | Mar 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | there are tons of software you could call it "a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system" that look or work nothing alike. | Mar 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | s/it// | Mar 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | s/ / / | Mar 31 22:37 |
| MinceR | "Linux" systems are diverse and are built from many kinds of components | Mar 31 22:38 |
| MinceR | compare a typical GNU/Linux distro with a BusyBox/Linux distro and Android | Mar 31 22:38 |
| oiaohm | https://busybox.net/~vda/init_vs_runsv.html busybox and android developers don't like sysvinit either. | Mar 31 22:40 |
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| MinceR | irrelevant | Mar 31 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Android in it init system does use cgroups. | Mar 31 22:40 |
| MinceR | therefore cgroup manager is not strictly "a basic building block for a Linux system", is it? | Mar 31 22:41 |
| oiaohm | Like or not most of the schedulers in fact depend in cgroup information. Without a cgroup manager you end up having to use a horrible to fake it https://lwn.net/Articles/415740/ | Mar 31 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | TTY-based group scheduling [LWN.net] | Mar 31 22:43 | |
| MinceR | again, irrelevant | Mar 31 22:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so to have a Linux kernel function correctly you really do need a cgroup manager. | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | no, then i need Linux to be unfucked | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | there was a rule about not breaking userspace | Mar 31 22:43 |
| MinceR | how does working around kernel bugs in userspace obey that rule? | Mar 31 22:44 |
| oiaohm | solaris has zones windows has sessions Freebsd has another grouping tech. | Mar 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | irrelevant | Mar 31 22:44 |
| oiaohm | All OS have some group tech. | Mar 31 22:44 |
| oiaohm | That group tech has to be managed. | Mar 31 22:44 |
| oiaohm | end of story basically. | Mar 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | also, it's quite interesting how things we happily did before cancerd came out of the woodwork were suddenly declared to be impossible by our wannabe overlords | Mar 31 22:44 |
| MinceR | no, i can just build a kernel without that shitty "tech" | Mar 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | and then it doesn't need to be managed. | Mar 31 22:45 |
| oiaohm | Then you complain about a set of performance issues. | Mar 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | and we can revisit that "tech" once they manage to implement it in a way that does not sucks. | Mar 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | s/ks/k/ | Mar 31 22:45 |
| MinceR | can you quote me complaining about performance issues? | Mar 31 22:45 |
| oiaohm | You might not have but a lot before systemd were already attempting to get around the performance issues. | Mar 31 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Like there is no point a process having cpu time if it does not have io time and the like. | Mar 31 22:47 |
| oiaohm | cgroups are kind of a required evil so the schedulers can have enough to make correct selections. | Mar 31 22:47 |
| MinceR | well, if cgroups can't function without cancerd, then it's a shitty design | Mar 31 22:48 |
| MinceR | and the people who came up with it can fuck off and go back to m$ | Mar 31 22:48 |
| MinceR | we already have a kernel built by idiots for idiots who enjoy shitty designs, it's called windows nt | Mar 31 22:49 |
| oiaohm | cgroups v2 alterations are not about making it work with systemd but in fact about making it work. | Mar 31 22:49 |
| oiaohm | No matter the init system. | Mar 31 22:49 |
| oiaohm | Or the combination of tools. | Mar 31 22:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroupv1 predates systemd and did not have anything to give it a decent work out where stacking was being forced. | Mar 31 22:50 |
| MinceR | looks like this applies to the entirety of cgroups and systemd as well: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420 | Mar 31 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline | Mar 31 22:50 | |
| MinceR | the kernel does shitty things userspace has to work around | Mar 31 22:51 |
| MinceR | and half of the userspace has to be thrown out to accommodate the enormous hack they have for that purpose | Mar 31 22:51 |
| oiaohm | Really systemd changed very little of userspace interfaces. | Mar 31 22:53 |
| oiaohm | Has questioned a lot of the provides. | Mar 31 22:53 |
| MinceR | except it broke init, cron, and who knows what else | Mar 31 22:54 |
| oiaohm | There was a rework to the command line handling in 2015. | Mar 31 22:54 |
| MinceR | like this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783683 | Mar 31 22:54 |
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| MinceR | oh, right, it also fucked up the kernel command line handling | Mar 31 22:55 |
| MinceR | flooded the syslog until the system crashed if you put "debug" in it | Mar 31 22:55 |
| MinceR | and now we're supposed to throw out all the system, use cancerd in its place, and we are also required to like it | Mar 31 22:55 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: no the new command line handling means applications don't need to attempt to re token the command like the token form is provided in /proc as well. | Mar 31 22:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: exactly why did every application wantting to see if Linux kernel command line had a option had to token it individually. | Mar 31 22:58 |
| MinceR | and yet it worked. | Mar 31 22:59 |
| MinceR | unlike lendows. | Mar 31 22:59 |
| oiaohm | In fact over the years many applications had miss tokened it before systemd. | Mar 31 22:59 |
| MinceR | how many applications need to bother with the kernel command line? | Mar 31 23:00 |
| oiaohm | Just a bug that went not addressed until after systemd. | Mar 31 23:00 |
| MinceR | (hint: cancerd shouldn't have either, as they obviously fucked it up) | Mar 31 23:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is 200 applications+ known to check the Linux command line for stuff. | Mar 31 23:00 |
| MinceR | that's a "bug" like the UI not working exactly like winblows does | Mar 31 23:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically a lot more than most would think. | Mar 31 23:00 |
| MinceR | maybe a "bug" to you and poettering, but not to anyone else | Mar 31 23:00 |
| oiaohm | 3 of those was part of sysvinit | Mar 31 23:00 |
| oiaohm | and had screwed up as well. | Mar 31 23:00 |
| oiaohm | tokening string errors are annoying common. | Mar 31 23:01 |
| MinceR | not nearly as annoying as a self-appointed emperor trying to force everybody's computer to be remade in his image. | Mar 31 23:01 |
| oiaohm | systemd has triggered a lot of bugs that were just keeping on being ingnored have proper methods provided. | Mar 31 23:02 |
| oiaohm | systemd is not all bad. Really I do wish it had not requried systemd to get a lot of this stuff fixed. | Mar 31 23:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, all hail our savior systemd | Mar 31 23:03 |
| MinceR | put it back into the lab. | Mar 31 23:03 |
| oiaohm | I don't call it our savior. | Mar 31 23:04 |
| oiaohm | I call it something that had to happen. | Mar 31 23:04 |
| MinceR | really i do wish it had not required killing off distros by the dozens to find a few bugs | Mar 31 23:04 |
| MinceR | no, it didn't | Mar 31 23:04 |
| oiaohm | O yes it did. | Mar 31 23:04 |
| MinceR | it happened because ratcrap is driven by fascist megalomaniacs | Mar 31 23:04 |
| MinceR | and there are a lot of idiots in charge of projects like debilian | Mar 31 23:05 |
| oiaohm | Most of the distributions that have died due to systemd were undermaintained and were findable full of CVE errors. | Mar 31 23:05 |
| MinceR | debilian used to be doing well | Mar 31 23:05 |
| oiaohm | debian is still doing well over all. | Mar 31 23:05 |
| MinceR | now it's a wreck with no purpose | Mar 31 23:05 |
| MinceR | no, it's not | Mar 31 23:05 |
| oiaohm | Number of debian users is up since systemd. | Mar 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | they already did 3 point releases to try to fix what systemd fucked up | Mar 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | ah, so now number of users determines which OS is good? | Mar 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | go the fuck back to windows. | Mar 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | and take poettering with you. | Mar 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | so many people use it it must be fucking perfect. | Mar 31 23:06 |
| MinceR | and hey, it already does things the retarded ratcrap way! | Mar 31 23:06 |
| oiaohm | Also lot of the items debian is having to fix due to systemd also releate to older bugs. | Mar 31 23:06 |
| oiaohm | even the cron one you pulled out. | Mar 31 23:07 |
| MinceR | it even has an automatic mechanism to stuff unrelated services into one process | Mar 31 23:07 |
| MinceR | harry poettering must really admire that | Mar 31 23:07 |
| MinceR | the cron one didn't exist before cgroups | Mar 31 23:08 |
| oiaohm | What do you mean stuff unreleated services into one process. | Mar 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svchost.exe | Mar 31 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | svchost.exe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Mar 31 23:08 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cron one before cgroups would result in lost processes remaining running on the system. | Mar 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | which didn't bother anyone | Mar 31 23:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroups just made cron issue in face. | Mar 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | unlike that upgrade being aborted and restarted over and over | Mar 31 23:08 |
| MinceR | no, forcing cgroups everywhere and trusting it with things it's not fit for broke cron. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: automatic upgrade failures happened randomally with debian with no located cause due to loss processes. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | assuming that every child process of cron must be killed off to shut cron down. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: before systemd. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| oiaohm | and cgroups. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | well, they went from random to every time | Mar 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | great! | Mar 31 23:09 |
| oiaohm | Basically all it did was make that error in face and repeatable. | Mar 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | all hail the hero lennart poettering | Mar 31 23:10 |
| MinceR | is it too much to ask to do this shit on non-production systems? | Mar 31 23:10 |
| oiaohm | Also libvirt users had put in the complain that cron in libvirt was showing the same error before systemd. | Mar 31 23:10 |
| oiaohm | And had been ignored. | Mar 31 23:10 |
| MinceR | that's probably because libvirt was hacked up by the same gaggle of retards at ratcrap | Mar 31 23:10 |
| MinceR | they're approximating m$ personnel quality | Mar 31 23:11 |
| oiaohm | Yes cgroup triggered cron failure happened before systemd and was not fixed. | Mar 31 23:11 |
| oiaohm | There are a long list of errors like this. | Mar 31 23:11 |
| oiaohm | Something had to change. | Mar 31 23:11 |
| MinceR | yes, something has to change | Mar 31 23:11 |
| MinceR | either it will be that everyone moves to *BSD | Mar 31 23:11 |
| oiaohm | going on sweeping bugs under carpet long term is never good. | Mar 31 23:11 |
| MinceR | or it will be that the people in charge of Linux get their shit together | Mar 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | and stop fucking up everyone's production systems | Mar 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | with idiotic experiments | Mar 31 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Please note those failures that were not fixed were stuffing up production systems randomally with sysvinit. | Mar 31 23:12 |
| oiaohm | So something had to give. | Mar 31 23:13 |
| oiaohm | systemd is basically the straw that broke the back of ingnoring faults. | Mar 31 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully what comes and replaces systemd will have a nice solid footing to build on due to all the bugs systemd is forcing into the open to be fixed. | Mar 31 23:14 |
| MinceR | let's stop pretending that sysvinit produced anywhere near the magnitude of the issues systemd still causes, shall we? | Mar 31 23:14 |
| MinceR | no, systemd is basically the disease that's destroying GNU/Linux | Mar 31 23:14 |
| oiaohm | I am not pretending | Mar 31 23:14 |
| MinceR | and it's threatening to infect other unixes | Mar 31 23:14 |
| MinceR | thanks to retards like jordan hubbard | Mar 31 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Systemd turned a lot of random sysvinit issues into I will always happen issues. | Mar 31 23:14 |
| MinceR | yay! | Mar 31 23:15 |
| MinceR | that can be done a lot cheaper | Mar 31 23:15 |
| MinceR | just yank out the power cord. | Mar 31 23:15 |
| oiaohm | So the number of new issues in fact caused by systemd are quite low. | Mar 31 23:15 |
| MinceR | that's a lie. | Mar 31 23:15 |
| oiaohm | Its not a lie | Mar 31 23:16 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Mar 31 23:16 |
| oiaohm | have you ever cross reference lxc reported bugs before system against systemd bugs and notice that 95 percent are in fact the same faults. | Mar 31 23:16 |
| MinceR | no, i haven't even used LXC | Mar 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | so far, i wasn't forced to use LXC | Mar 31 23:17 |
| oiaohm | Basically majority of systemd faults were reported before first line of systemd was written. | Mar 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | yay | Mar 31 23:17 |
| oiaohm | and just ignored. | Mar 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | they knew ahead of time that cancerd was going to be shit | Mar 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | and they still wrote it | Mar 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | and they still forced it over almost all major distros | Mar 31 23:17 |
| MinceR | surprise, it really sucks | Mar 31 23:17 |
| oiaohm | Remaining 5 percent mostly line up with issues reported by everyone attempting to use a init system other than sysvinit. | Mar 31 23:18 |
| oiaohm | About 0.5 percent are in fact systemd issues. | Mar 31 23:19 |
| MinceR | another lie | Mar 31 23:19 |
| oiaohm | No that is not a lie. | Mar 31 23:19 |
| oiaohm | That is the numbers. | Mar 31 23:19 |
| oiaohm | Kinda tells you how bad ignoring faults had got. | Mar 31 23:19 |
| oiaohm | So at some point this was going to break. | Mar 31 23:20 |
| MinceR | let's see what systemd people say about the Technology That Will Fix Everything: "cgroup notification is unreliable." | Mar 31 23:20 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/743970d2ea6d08aa7c7bff8220f6b7702f2b1db7 | Mar 31 23:20 |
| MinceR | if that's not a glowing recommendation, i don't know what is | Mar 31 23:20 |
| MinceR | let's go make everything depend on it! | Mar 31 23:20 |
| oiaohm | That is cgroup v1 | Mar 31 23:20 |
| MinceR | production systems first! | Mar 31 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Cgroup v2 does not have that issue. | Mar 31 23:21 |
| MinceR | where's cgroup v2? | Mar 31 23:21 |
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| oiaohm | And when systemd started lot thought that fault could be worked around. | Mar 31 23:21 |
| MinceR | they were sure of it | Mar 31 23:21 |
| MinceR | so sure they used political trickery to force other distros to adopt their shit | Mar 31 23:21 |
| MinceR | which was banking on a technology which is "unreliable" | Mar 31 23:21 |
| MinceR | great fucking job, people! | Mar 31 23:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do you have a clue what causes that fault. | Mar 31 23:22 |
| MinceR | i'd really like to see what percentage of Linux (kernel) developers agree with this cgroup cargo cult | Mar 31 23:22 |
| MinceR | yes | Mar 31 23:22 |
| oiaohm | In cgroup | Mar 31 23:22 |
| MinceR | people being incompetent and megalomaniacal | Mar 31 23:22 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v1 has a particular design fault. | Mar 31 23:22 |
| MinceR | breaking other people's stuff because they can't imagine themselves making a mistake, ever | Mar 31 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Someone though it was a good idea for a process to have it threads be in different cgroups with cgroup v1 | Mar 31 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Kinda makes killing tricky for some reason. | Mar 31 23:23 |
| MinceR | again, makes me wonder who the hell is in charge of this show | Mar 31 23:23 |
| MinceR | also, why couldn't they tell us all right from the start | Mar 31 23:24 |
| MinceR | "use *BSD instead, we're all retarded" | Mar 31 23:24 |
| oiaohm | Please note this retarded fault predates systemd. | Mar 31 23:24 |
| oiaohm | You know is bad when linus with cgroup v2 allows userspace interfaces to be broken. | Mar 31 23:24 |
| oiaohm | So no cgroup v1 emulation has to be provided. | Mar 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder why are we relying on cgroups on production systems again? | Mar 31 23:25 |
| MinceR | funny thing is, good old GNU/Linux with sysvinit will be unaffected by this v1/v2 incompatibility | Mar 31 23:26 |
| oiaohm | We do need the functionality of cgroups to say x group of processes should only use x ammount of ram io and cpu and so on. | Mar 31 23:26 |
| MinceR | because it doesn't rely on features that aren't fucking done yet! | Mar 31 23:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroups were never going to get done if no one was using and testing them. | Mar 31 23:26 |
| MinceR | do we need that more than a system that is actually usable for something worthwhile? | Mar 31 23:26 |
| MinceR | i'm not ratcrap's beta tester | Mar 31 23:27 |
| MinceR | maybe if they paid me to do it, i'd be willing | Mar 31 23:27 |
| MinceR | probably not. | Mar 31 23:27 |
| oiaohm | Its functionality that needs to work. docker and many other solutions depend on it as well. | Mar 31 23:27 |
| oiaohm | Really if the functionality does not work correctly it should have been taken out kernel in the first place. | Mar 31 23:28 |
| MinceR | not my problem. | Mar 31 23:28 |
| oiaohm | cgroups in time will give better desktop behavour. | Mar 31 23:28 |
| MinceR | can you, now that the userland (now called "systemd") can't function without it? | Mar 31 23:28 |
| MinceR | (never mind that it also can't function with it either, since it's shit) | Mar 31 23:28 |
| MinceR | provided there will be a desktop by the time they're done with it | Mar 31 23:29 |
| oiaohm | ie stuff on users screen in fact getting cpu time stuff in background not linked to the user end up with less time. | Mar 31 23:29 |
| oiaohm | cpu/io miss balance is key to windows and OS X desktop good feel to end users. | Mar 31 23:29 |
| MinceR | there's no technology that won't make mandatory gnome3 on mandatory cancerd not suck | Mar 31 23:29 |
| MinceR | ever | Mar 31 23:29 |
| MinceR | strange, i must not be an end user, then | Mar 31 23:29 |
| MinceR | because winblows and OSuX always felt like torture to me | Mar 31 23:30 |
| oiaohm | Windows 2000 workstation you could turn the miss balance on and off. | Mar 31 23:30 |
| MinceR | i guess this mythical end user enjoys randomly losing focus, the usb stack sucking at its job, text rendering that makes spaces randomly sized, and broken maximize functionality | Mar 31 23:30 |
| MinceR | could you also turn off the random focus losing? | Mar 31 23:30 |
| MinceR | could you also turn off the text rendering being an unusable pain in the eye? | Mar 31 23:31 |
| MinceR | microsoft text rendering, at its finest: http://i.imgur.com/lwVtQH6.png | Mar 31 23:31 |
| oiaohm | The miss blance means the active window gets more cpu | Mar 31 23:31 |
| MinceR | and on top of this, you can get randomly colored fringes too, with "cleartype" | Mar 31 23:31 |
| MinceR | now how much would you pay? | Mar 31 23:31 |
| MinceR | i can tell you it was _not_ fun filling out text results in suXcel when i couldn't tell where the spaces were in the text i entered! | Mar 31 23:32 |
| MinceR | s/text/test/ | Mar 31 23:32 |
| MinceR | active window getting more cpu is a shitty attempt to work around the winblows task scheduler being an unusable pile of junk | Mar 31 23:32 |
| MinceR | it's the typical case of m$ trying to know better than me what i want | Mar 31 23:33 |
| oiaohm | In fact even with a good scheduler if you attempt to be 100 percent fair you end up in cases where you don't have enough cpu to in fact not stall the interface. | Mar 31 23:33 |
| MinceR | it's also one of the reasons i couldn't get music playback without stuttering and skipping constantly on winblows 2000 or xp | Mar 31 23:33 |
| MinceR | and GNU/Linux could do that reliably back then | Mar 31 23:33 |
| oiaohm | So a scheduler needs the means to be unfair. | Mar 31 23:33 |
| MinceR | even without fucking around with priorities | Mar 31 23:33 |
| MinceR | of course, they fucked that up since | Mar 31 23:34 |
| oiaohm | nice in Linux only works 4 years after cgroups are implemented. | Mar 31 23:34 |
| MinceR | it would help to not run tons of bloat in the background | Mar 31 23:34 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it worked back then | Mar 31 23:34 |
| oiaohm | Nice value was not hooked up to anything in the shedulers. | Mar 31 23:34 |
| MinceR | then again, back then the desktop was not a contest of "how could we waste even more resources on even less functionality?" | Mar 31 23:35 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people though it worked. | Mar 31 23:35 |
| MinceR | maybe the scheduler wasn't shit back then | Mar 31 23:35 |
| oiaohm | It was an example of the placebo effect. | Mar 31 23:35 |
| MinceR | meanwhile on winblows i had an app which would crash if i gave it too high priority | Mar 31 23:35 |
| MinceR | and it would still not play music continuously in the background | Mar 31 23:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course | Mar 31 23:36 |
| oiaohm | background 1/3 the cpu access time. | Mar 31 23:36 |
| MinceR | says who? | Mar 31 23:36 |
| oiaohm | That is how windows did it. | Mar 31 23:36 |
| MinceR | which is why windows totally sucked at this | Mar 31 23:36 |
| MinceR | just like it still totally sucks at everything | Mar 31 23:36 |
| oiaohm | Windows of course was not providing users with any real controls over it. | Mar 31 23:37 |
| oiaohm | It was either bias on or bias off. | Mar 31 23:37 |
| MinceR | the great exemplar poettering sets for us | Mar 31 23:37 |
| MinceR | no wonder lendows also totally sucks at everything | Mar 31 23:37 |
| oiaohm | Systemd idea is that you can set the priority per service and in time per application. | Mar 31 23:38 |
| MinceR | no wonder cancerd fucks at every single job it takes up | Mar 31 23:38 |
| oiaohm | to get the system to behave the way you want. | Mar 31 23:38 |
| MinceR | s/fu/su/ | Mar 31 23:38 |
| oiaohm | GUI studies around windows tells us lots of things. Displaying stuff that user can see that action is happening user will wait 20 times longer happily. | Mar 31 23:39 |
| MinceR | ooh, i love studies | Mar 31 23:39 |
| MinceR | like the one crApple did with what must have been people born without brains | Mar 31 23:39 |
| oiaohm | User will think system is fast if the part they are interface with/hearing is functioning right. | Mar 31 23:40 |
| MinceR | who couldn't tell the difference between their fingers | Mar 31 23:40 |
| MinceR | so they had to look to find out which button they're pressing on the mouse | Mar 31 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Apple GUI design is based of giving a 5 year old children a computer without instructions and them being able to use it. | Mar 31 23:41 |
| MinceR | thing is, what the user is hearing does not necessarily come from the window that has focus | Mar 31 23:41 |
| MinceR | has this occurred to any of the idiots at m$ and crApple? | Mar 31 23:41 |
| MinceR | use it, for what? | Mar 31 23:41 |
| MinceR | what are the information processing needs of a 5 year old child? | Mar 31 23:41 |
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| MinceR | this is what IT turned into | Mar 31 23:42 |
| MinceR | professionals being forced to use toys designed for 5 year old retarded children | Mar 31 23:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all I did was state what there model is. I did not say I agree with. | Mar 31 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Not retarted children. | Mar 31 23:42 |
| MinceR | it should be pretty obvious by now that their model is the exact opposite of anything that would make sense | Mar 31 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Basically being treated like a 5 year old child | Mar 31 23:42 |
| MinceR | they've managed to fuck up perfectly | Mar 31 23:43 |
| oiaohm | Made sence when Apple was attempt to get into schools | Mar 31 23:44 |
| MinceR | so why do i get alleged adults push crApple's toys for me to use? | Mar 31 23:44 |
| oiaohm | The fact apple has not revisited and extend model causes a very be problem. | Mar 31 23:44 |
| MinceR | what sense does that make? | Mar 31 23:44 |
| oiaohm | The problem with interface design models is most of them make sense to particular markets. | Mar 31 23:46 |
| MinceR | also, why do tools built for adults to work with have to be warped into an imitation of what crApple designed for 5 year old children? | Mar 31 23:46 |
| oiaohm | 5 year old child model makes sense when you are attempt to sell entry level computers. | Mar 31 23:46 |
| oiaohm | as a person first computer. | Mar 31 23:46 |
| MinceR | again, what are the information processing needs of a 5 year old child? | Mar 31 23:46 |
| oiaohm | Quite a lot when you think the kids they were using were in early prep school and in fact learning to read already. | Mar 31 23:47 |
| oiaohm | They did not choose your adverage 5 year old child either. | Mar 31 23:48 |
| MinceR | at what age will they learn to tell their index finger from their middle finger? | Mar 31 23:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hand mechanics with multi dexterity 6-7 | Mar 31 23:51 |
| MinceR | so, does crApple have a mouse designed for 7 year old children too? | Mar 31 23:51 |
| MinceR | or are they expected to use the one designed for 5 year olds until they die? | Mar 31 23:51 |
| oiaohm | They model on 5 year old so it a single button. | Mar 31 23:51 |
| MinceR | i know | Mar 31 23:51 |
| MinceR | problem is, most computer users are a bit older than that | Mar 31 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Multi button is if you design for 7-8 | Mar 31 23:52 |
| MinceR | but try to make the average m$/crApple/ratcrap cultist understand that | Mar 31 23:52 |
| oiaohm | 6-7 is when multi dexterity starts not in fact having lots of strength at doing it. | Mar 31 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Apple computers do in fact support multi button mice just apple does not sell any. | Mar 31 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Mostly because apple thinks it would be too confusing to explain this age stuff in shops. | Mar 31 23:53 |
| MinceR | and the GUI (which is allegedly the selling point of their atrocious OS-es) doesn't support more | Mar 31 23:54 |
| MinceR | remember, gnome is copying that GUI now, and kde is copying whatever gnome is doing | Mar 31 23:54 |
| MinceR | yeah, being able to tell one's index finger from one's middle finger is confusing | Mar 31 23:54 |
| MinceR | i'm quite happy to show them which the middle finger is, though | Mar 31 23:55 |
| oiaohm | For a 5 year old with the ways the tendons in hand are its kinda hard to move those fingers allown. | Mar 31 23:55 |
| oiaohm | As we get older we forget that as our hands grew particular problems went away. | Mar 31 23:55 |
| oiaohm | So for young children we really do need like the apple interface. | Mar 31 23:56 |
| oiaohm | Ie single button mouse. | Mar 31 23:56 |
| MinceR | i propose we also adapt the keyboard to accommodate for this issue | Mar 31 23:56 |
| MinceR | 1-button keyboard | Mar 31 23:56 |
| oiaohm | As we get older multi button mouse comes useable. | Mar 31 23:56 |
| MinceR | we could call it the "DERP" key | Mar 31 23:56 |
| MinceR | not that the typical targeted user could read the label, of course | Mar 31 23:57 |
| oiaohm | A button on the apple keyboard is used for the second mouse button in fact. | Mar 31 23:57 |
| oiaohm | So 2 hand operation. | Mar 31 23:57 |
| MinceR | whoop de do | Mar 31 23:58 |
| oiaohm | So the apple interface for under 7 makes design sense. | Mar 31 23:58 |
| oiaohm | us over 7 no so much. | Mar 31 23:58 |
| MinceR | so, how can i convince crApple cultists that the stuff they advertise all day and all night is for children under the age of 7? | Mar 31 23:58 |
| oiaohm | I don't know. | Mar 31 23:59 |
| oiaohm | I have even put the steven jobs research data on it in front of them and it does not work. | Mar 31 23:59 |
| MinceR | and how can i stop poettering from shitting into systems used by people over the age of 7? | Mar 31 23:59 |
| oiaohm | Before poettering systems were in a mess. Work to clean up and fix alsa and dbus come from the messes he has caused. | Apr 01 00:00 |
| MinceR | wrong | Apr 01 00:01 |
| MinceR | before poettering, we had working unixes | Apr 01 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Not wrong. | Apr 01 00:01 |
| MinceR | now we have a huge train wreck. | Apr 01 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Train started going off rails before poettering got mixed up with Linux. | Apr 01 00:01 |
| MinceR | and he put nitro on | Apr 01 00:02 |
| oiaohm | The question is what will be the fastest way back on to the rails properly. | Apr 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | we kick out all the retards and start over? | Apr 01 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Maybe to get some of the retards out we need poettering to do more. | Apr 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | what will we use in the meantime? | Apr 01 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Like without systemd cgroup v1 would be still going forwards becoming a bigger and bigger mess. | Apr 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | System V? | Apr 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | an abacus? | Apr 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | no, without systemd we wouldn't be using cgroups except for testing and experiments | Apr 01 00:04 |
| oiaohm | and still having IO memory.... and stack of other issues. cgroup was started to address a very particular set of problems then extend in bad directions. | Apr 01 00:04 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 is return to core objectives and stick only to core objectives to fix the set of problems. | Apr 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | i still don't see how this required turning 9 out of 11 distributions into wreckage | Apr 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_reception | Apr 01 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | systemd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 01 00:06 | |
| oiaohm | Please note gentoo with openrc was having nightmares with items not working correctly in cgroups as well. | Apr 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | iirc openrc works fine without cgroups | Apr 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | That is the issue. | Apr 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | no, that's a non-issue | Apr 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | it's the opposite of an issue | Apr 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | since openrc would work find without cgroups when ever openrc had a issue from cgroups upstream projects just said run without cgroups and did not address problem. | Apr 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | the issue is cancerd requiring cgroups despite its own developers being aware of cgroups being unreliable. | Apr 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | yeah, production systems that work are such a bummer | Apr 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd is basically a sledge hammer. | Apr 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | some people just want to watch the world burn. | Apr 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | who needs a sledge hammer in the data center? | Apr 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | When you are trying to get the most work load per system does end up using cgroups. | Apr 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | That is where docker and other horibles come from depending on cgroups. | Apr 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | workload or just useless load from cancerd? | Apr 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | like this: http://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.html | Apr 01 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insane | Apr 01 00:13 | |
| MinceR | ("why do you hate blind people?") | Apr 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | datacentres were using cgroups with sysvinit using lxc and other thigns before systemd and openrc | Apr 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | were they forced to rely on unreliable cgroups and unfinished lxc? | Apr 01 00:14 |
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| MinceR | even if i wanted to use a pc for heating, there's the windows i was forced to buy along with it | Apr 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | there's no need for ratcrap to develop such things | Apr 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | s/for heating/purely &/ | Apr 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically the were forced attempt to get max load per machine to be using unreliable cgroups and unfinished Lxc and having their bugs ignored. | Apr 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | and this is their revenge? | Apr 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Yes systemd is basically their revenge. | Apr 01 00:17 |
| MinceR | what did i do to offend them? | Apr 01 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Mostly by saying cgroups was not important when to them it critical so causing there bugs to go back burner all the time. | Apr 01 00:18 |
| oiaohm | packagekitd is in fact annoying one this is running a graphical application checking if system is upto date causes that to run in background all the time. | Apr 01 00:18 |
| MinceR | i didn't say anything about cgroups back then | Apr 01 00:19 |
| MinceR | so why did they have to destroy the distro i used to rely on? | Apr 01 00:19 |
| oiaohm | They rely on lot of the same distributions you use. | Apr 01 00:19 |
| oiaohm | And they want them fixed. | Apr 01 00:19 |
| oiaohm | Worse those data centers pay the wages of a lot of the maintainers. | Apr 01 00:20 |
| oiaohm | So if it was not systemd it was going to be something. | Apr 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | i don't see how forcing these distros to turn into winblows imitations helps fix anything | Apr 01 00:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd as I have told you is more like solaris and windows. | Apr 01 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the data centre guys love solaris for the way it works. | Apr 01 00:22 |
| MinceR | when did they get their lobotomy? | Apr 01 00:22 |
| MinceR | or were they born without a brain? | Apr 01 00:22 |
| oiaohm | For getting high utilisation solaris is in fact good. Windows in fact is bad. | Apr 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | So there are key differences in systemd that make it closer to solaris than Windows. | Apr 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | i'm sure windows can make the cpu spin at 100% too | Apr 01 00:24 |
| MinceR | especially if it invites some of its malware friends in | Apr 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | The ablity to share between services cpu /io time using zones is what zolaris has. | Apr 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | cgroups in systemd is about replicating that. | Apr 01 00:24 |
| MinceR | are zones broken too? | Apr 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | zones in fact are closer to cgroup v2 and function correctly. | Apr 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | then they haven't done a good job replicating them, have they? | Apr 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v1 you would call a drunk copy of zones. | Apr 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 somewhere near sober copy of zones. | Apr 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | does slowlaris ship with a GUI that has client-side decorations too? | Apr 01 00:27 |
| oiaohm | It has at different times. | Apr 01 00:27 |
| oiaohm | solaris was first to include kernel mode setting. | Apr 01 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Even before Windows had it. | Apr 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | i'm glad i'm not running slowlaris | Apr 01 00:28 |
| oiaohm | solaris was also first to include patching kernel while running. | Apr 01 00:28 |
| oiaohm | So solaris was known for monster uptimes while away been upto date. | Apr 01 00:29 |
| oiaohm | away/always | Apr 01 00:29 |
| oiaohm | So there are quite a few good things we can copy from solaris. | Apr 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | and yet we insist on copying the bad things | Apr 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly. | Apr 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | makes me thinking we're copying windows after all | Apr 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | since there are no good things in windows | Apr 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | attempt to copy zones is a good idea. | Apr 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | that way it's no wonder we're only getting broken shit | Apr 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | the copy being broken design not such a good idea. | Apr 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the ideas of systemd is the right ones. Just implementation kernel and userspace side highly lacking. | Apr 01 00:31 |
| MinceR | like implementing everything in a huge unmaintainable hairball | Apr 01 00:31 |
| MinceR | or like forcing binary logging with an iron fist | Apr 01 00:31 |
| MinceR | so fucking great | Apr 01 00:31 |
| MinceR | and then there's the rest of lendows | Apr 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | kdbus, gnome3, networkmanager, udisks, ... | Apr 01 00:32 |
| oiaohm | networkmanager is redhat but systemd lead making networkd is because he does not exactly trust the design of that. | Apr 01 00:33 |
| MinceR | i'm sure it's about as unreliable | Apr 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | but this time the user doesn't get a choice | Apr 01 00:34 |
| oiaohm | dbus something has to happen to that. Existence is because Linux and most Unix systems lack a kernel based equal to a com system. | Apr 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | and which other company is known for not giving users a choice? | Apr 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | why does it have to be kernel-based? | Apr 01 00:35 |
| oiaohm | If it a kernel based IPC time slice stealing can be done. | Apr 01 00:35 |
| MinceR | so what? | Apr 01 00:35 |
| oiaohm | do you know what time slice stealing it. | Apr 01 00:36 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 01 00:36 |
| MinceR | it's relevant when you're implementing syscalls in servers and call them via IPC | Apr 01 00:36 |
| MinceR | but IPC doesn't have to be RPC | Apr 01 00:36 |
| oiaohm | So you do a dbus call at monent this has to trigger dbus service to fire up to route on. | Apr 01 00:37 |
| oiaohm | The current IPC in Linux only allows a time slice steal once. | Apr 01 00:37 |
| oiaohm | So you get to dbus service then cannot pass steal onto the part processing applications request. | Apr 01 00:37 |
| oiaohm | So dbus cannot work effectively with current kernel IPC offerings. | Apr 01 00:38 |
| oiaohm | Basically dbus needs a replacement/modification. | Apr 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | dbus has worse issues | Apr 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | like this windows-like obsession with rebooting | Apr 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | slowlaris didn't have that, did it? | Apr 01 00:39 |
| oiaohm | solaris for SMF added a multi connect IPC to kernel. | Apr 01 00:40 |
| oiaohm | Reason why SMF cannot be ported to Linux. | Apr 01 00:40 |
| MinceR | SMF also eventually put everything and the kitchensink in pid1, didn't it? | Apr 01 00:40 |
| MinceR | maybe not cancerd levels, but at least launchd levels | Apr 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | SMF did at first then undid it. | Apr 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | also undid it after they had bus system in kernel. | Apr 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | The ablity to restart most of the dbus system if it follows SMF will come from being able to record in kernel that it meant to be connected. | Apr 01 00:42 |
| oiaohm | it being the sub applications. | Apr 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | why can't you time slice stealing with user-mode IPC? what's the harm in letting a process give up the rest of its time slice and hand it over to another process? | Apr 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | unless we have a process spawning children that give up their slices to the original process all the time | Apr 01 00:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is the posix defined IPC only allow it jump once. | Apr 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | not sure how that's worse than just having the child processes hog the cpu, though | Apr 01 00:43 |
| oiaohm | From your process to dbus that is the end. | Apr 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | why can't dbus do it to the next process? | Apr 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | when the dbus service sends message on to what should be processing you cannot jump again. | Apr 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | (with the rest of my process's slice, i guess) | Apr 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | posix define IPC says if you attempt to steal again this triggers end of process slice and next process is started in the sheduler list of processes. | Apr 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | This causes dbus to horiblely stall a lot. | Apr 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | could work with a simple extension | Apr 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | no need to bloat the kernel for this | Apr 01 00:46 |
| oiaohm | also dbus support multi casing of messages. | Apr 01 00:46 |
| oiaohm | mixed with unicasting. | Apr 01 00:46 |
| oiaohm | basically it does not properly match any of the existing IPC either. | Apr 01 00:46 |
| oiaohm | reason why they tried kdbus and now are doing bus1. | Apr 01 00:47 |
| MinceR | why don't they just use 9P? | Apr 01 00:47 |
| oiaohm | Only 9p in Linux kernel is https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/9p.txt yes the file system. 9p message bus system would be almost a perfect match for what dbus needs but Linux kernel does not have that. | Apr 01 00:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: A key type of IPC is not kernel provided in Linux. | Apr 01 00:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 01 00:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder what plan9port uses for IPC | Apr 01 00:50 |
| MinceR | probably a userspace daemon | Apr 01 00:50 |
| oiaohm | and that will have all the same trouble dbus has. | Apr 01 00:50 |
| oiaohm | This is why we have need something like systemd pushing these sections so hopefully one day they get properly fixed. | Apr 01 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Basically if no systemd we need something else to cause equal size mess. | Apr 01 00:52 |
| MinceR | if there will be anyone left to use the result | Apr 01 00:52 |
| MinceR | cancerd is breaking applications, taking over stuff unrelated to cgroups and making users move to *BSD more than contributing to anything getting fixed | Apr 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | If these issues were not fixed also risked not having anyone left would have remained. | Apr 01 00:53 |
| MinceR | (and of course that's all assuming we'll even be allowed to boot an OS of our choice in the future) | Apr 01 00:53 |
| oiaohm | People were looking at BSD stuff for stablity before systemd as well. | Apr 01 00:53 |
| MinceR | where would have they gone then? | Apr 01 00:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically outcome would not have been much different just being slower. | Apr 01 00:54 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Apr 01 00:54 |
| oiaohm | Now if the issues get fixed system will be better. | Apr 01 00:54 |
| MinceR | and again, cancerd taking over stuff that has nothing to do with process management was not required either way | Apr 01 00:54 |
| MinceR | only if cancerd is not mandatory in that "fixed" system | Apr 01 00:55 |
| oiaohm | I don't see systemd ending up mandatory in the end. | Apr 01 00:55 |
| oiaohm | Like the fixes to cgroupv2 allows applications to use syscalls instead of using systemd interfaces to control cgroups even when contained. | Apr 01 00:56 |
| oiaohm | Same interfaces inside docker container or systemd or any other cgroup/namespace solution. | Apr 01 00:56 |
| MinceR | that won't remove systemd-dependent APIs everywhere | Apr 01 00:56 |
| MinceR | like this timedated and hostnamed bullshit | Apr 01 00:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname hostnamed comes from this. | Apr 01 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Features/BetterHostname - FedoraProject | Apr 01 01:01 | |
| MinceR | i don't care where it comes from, it has to die | Apr 01 01:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please remember hostname is settable by dhcpd | Apr 01 01:02 |
| MinceR | shitty APIs made up by fascist megalomaniacs for political reasons belong in winblows, not unix. | Apr 01 01:02 |
| oiaohm | there are reasons why userspace needs to be able to look up hostname stored in memory not that written on disc. | Apr 01 01:03 |
| MinceR | if only we had a command that did that | Apr 01 01:03 |
| MinceR | we could call it 'hostname' | Apr 01 01:03 |
| MinceR | oh look, it exists | Apr 01 01:03 |
| MinceR | that's the unix way | Apr 01 01:04 |
| MinceR | not adding an interface in a shitty IPC daemon that came from our nightmares | Apr 01 01:04 |
| oiaohm | hostname command does not cover the multi naming network standard has allowed. | Apr 01 01:05 |
| oiaohm | standards have allowed. | Apr 01 01:05 |
| MinceR | what would that be? | Apr 01 01:05 |
| MinceR | multiple hostnames for a single host? | Apr 01 01:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes multi hostnames for a single host is in fact legal. | Apr 01 01:05 |
| MinceR | or a hostname that's actually a h.264 video with sound? | Apr 01 01:05 |
| oiaohm | by network standards. | Apr 01 01:05 |
| oiaohm | Assigned multi ways. | Apr 01 01:06 |
| MinceR | i doubt there's any unix program that's designed to handle multiple hostnames as the name of the computer | Apr 01 01:06 |
| oiaohm | https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed/ | Apr 01 01:06 |
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| MinceR | DNS is irrelevant for this purpose | Apr 01 01:06 |
| oiaohm | Its in the documentation. | Apr 01 01:06 |
| MinceR | of course it's in the "documentation" poettering wrote | Apr 01 01:06 |
| MinceR | one machine calling itself several names is still stupid | Apr 01 01:07 |
| oiaohm | No poettering did not write this. | Apr 01 01:07 |
| oiaohm | Hostname what is dhcp set name. | Apr 01 01:07 |
| MinceR | what are you going to put in a filename to disambiguate hosts? | Apr 01 01:07 |
| oiaohm | StaticHostname what you set in /etc/hostname or what ever you like locally restricted in chars. | Apr 01 01:07 |
| MinceR | i'm not really sold on having dhcp change my hostname either. | Apr 01 01:07 |
| MinceR | so, that's the hostname | Apr 01 01:07 |
| oiaohm | Then you have PrettyHostname that is allowed to use full unicode chars. | Apr 01 01:08 |
| MinceR | let's stop calling things that are not hostnames "the hostname" | Apr 01 01:08 |
| MinceR | why the fuck? | Apr 01 01:08 |
| oiaohm | These are all things standards call hostname | Apr 01 01:08 |
| oiaohm | networking standard bodys need to be shot. | Apr 01 01:08 |
| MinceR | do i want to use a hex dump to find out which of the two hostnames i see has the cyrillic o and which has the latin o? | Apr 01 01:08 |
| MinceR | do i want to use a hex dump to find out if there are invisible characters in the name of my computer? | Apr 01 01:09 |
| oiaohm | That is what is written into the standards. | Apr 01 01:09 |
| MinceR | just so some idiot can put an accented character in his "PrettyHostname"? | Apr 01 01:09 |
| MinceR | what is this, My Little Pony? | Apr 01 01:09 |
| MinceR | we should stop letting people on drugs write "standards" | Apr 01 01:10 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed/hostname1 is basically created because insane people wrote standards. | Apr 01 01:10 |
| MinceR | and why do gnome and kde depend on it? | Apr 01 01:11 |
| MinceR | because insane people also design DEs? | Apr 01 01:11 |
| oiaohm | Because at times you need to send your PrettyHostname or you will not get answer. | Apr 01 01:11 |
| MinceR | the whole reason we have an OS standard that is actually usable is that some people realized you shouldn't put everything you could possibly conceive into the design, but make it minimal | Apr 01 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Like windows proxies. | Apr 01 01:12 |
| MinceR | and now we get this bullshit | Apr 01 01:12 |
| MinceR | 1. windows proxies need to die in a fire | Apr 01 01:12 |
| MinceR | 2. then whatever is talking to the windows proxies should deal with their madness | Apr 01 01:12 |
| MinceR | not hostname | Apr 01 01:12 |
| MinceR | not the DE | Apr 01 01:12 |
| oiaohm | IconName and Chassis values as well. | Apr 01 01:12 |
| MinceR | and especially not every single application that ever runs on the machine | Apr 01 01:13 |
| MinceR | protocols that use PrettyName, IconName and Chassis to identify a host should not be used, ever | Apr 01 01:13 |
| oiaohm | at times you have to send the hostname the dhcpd server sent to your as well. | Apr 01 01:13 |
| MinceR | they should be locked up with the deranged idiots that came up with them | Apr 01 01:13 |
| oiaohm | So you need at least 2 hostnames | Apr 01 01:13 |
| MinceR | that's what the dhcp client daemon does | Apr 01 01:13 |
| MinceR | the dhcp client daemon does not need to ask some random service "gee, what name did the dhcp server said i had?" | Apr 01 01:14 |
| oiaohm | What if you have more than 1 network card talking to more than 1 dhcpd server. | Apr 01 01:14 |
| MinceR | then i have more than 1 dhcp client daemons running, most likely | Apr 01 01:14 |
| MinceR | one for each card | Apr 01 01:14 |
| oiaohm | hostname1 protocol is not fully complete really. | Apr 01 01:14 |
| oiaohm | But its a good start. | Apr 01 01:14 |
| MinceR | well, i can see how it could not be fully complete | Apr 01 01:14 |
| MinceR | because there are these maniac idiots running free coming up with pointless extensions | Apr 01 01:15 |
| MinceR | have all the insane asylums been shut down? | Apr 01 01:15 |
| oiaohm | dynamic dns created a lot of this as well. | Apr 01 01:15 |
| MinceR | wow, this industry is full of shit | Apr 01 01:15 |
| MinceR | see, this is why only unix variants can be used to get anything done whatsoever | Apr 01 01:16 |
| MinceR | because everything else is designed on the principle of "what pointless bullshit could i tack on this that it does not yet have?" | Apr 01 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Unix variants have historically include means to talk pointless bullshit when required. | Apr 01 01:17 |
| MinceR | they can't come up with a sane kernel design yet they're already plotting how many names, colors, sounds and scents will have to be used to identify the host it's running on! | Apr 01 01:17 |
| MinceR | oh, forgot "tastes" | Apr 01 01:17 |
| MinceR | you would otherwise confuse these two computers here because i can't come up with 2 different names! | Apr 01 01:18 |
| MinceR | the point is, it should not ever be required | Apr 01 01:18 |
| oiaohm | dhcpd hostname setting comes from the fact users will connect two computers of exactly the same name. | Apr 01 01:18 |
| MinceR | people who come up with this shit are a threat to themselves and to everyone else | Apr 01 01:18 |
| MinceR | and the dhcp server can't remember their hardware addresses? | Apr 01 01:19 |
| MinceR | those are unique, you know... | Apr 01 01:19 |
| oiaohm | protocols don't use hardware addresses | Apr 01 01:19 |
| MinceR | oh really | Apr 01 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Most don't. | Apr 01 01:19 |
| MinceR | when did ethernet become broadcast-only? | Apr 01 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Like smb is using a name to find hardware addresses. | Apr 01 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Same with many others. | Apr 01 01:20 |
| MinceR | smb is broken, pointless bullshit that should not ever be used | Apr 01 01:20 |
| oiaohm | dns name set value. | Apr 01 01:20 |
| oiaohm | mdns name. | Apr 01 01:20 |
| MinceR | mdns should also burn in hell. | Apr 01 01:20 |
| oiaohm | list goes on and on the ways we use hostnames to find way around. | Apr 01 01:20 |
| oiaohm | Yep mdns is where pretty and iconname and chassis comes from. | Apr 01 01:21 |
| MinceR | so now we pretend that the automatically generated garbage the dhcp server handed to us because we couldn't be bothered to give our host a unique name is a "name"? | Apr 01 01:21 |
| MinceR | one that we'll remember and use? | Apr 01 01:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, fuck mdns in hell. | Apr 01 01:21 |
| MinceR | along with avahi | Apr 01 01:21 |
| oiaohm | Funny at one business I found 10 laptops with the hostname laptop | Apr 01 01:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, well, allegedly-adult humans should stop being retarded | Apr 01 01:22 |
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| oiaohm | You know you are working on a adult network when everything is named after sex toys. Yes unique names but boy you don't want to have to say them over the phone. | Apr 01 01:23 |
| MinceR | actually that's fine | Apr 01 01:24 |
| MinceR | unique names that are not a pain to remember or communicate | Apr 01 01:24 |
| MinceR | unlike the supposedly unicode line noise mdns uses | Apr 01 01:24 |
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| MinceR | or the arbitrarily large set of names hostname* keeps in mind, which it acquired from nobody knows where | Apr 01 01:25 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed thing is basically not a systemd caused problem. | Apr 01 01:25 |
| MinceR | because you must be able to list the titles and names of a "modern" system for at least a day long | Apr 01 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Its the insane guys written standards requiring stuff written to cope with it. | Apr 01 01:25 |
| MinceR | that's no reason to put it everywhere | Apr 01 01:25 |
| MinceR | put it in its own daemon, keeperofnamesforsystemsdesignedbyretardedimbecilesd | Apr 01 01:26 |
| MinceR | have it not depend on what has pid1 | Apr 01 01:26 |
| oiaohm | basically that is what hostnamed is. | Apr 01 01:26 |
| MinceR | have it an _optional_ dependency at most for DEs | Apr 01 01:26 |
| MinceR | no, that's not what systemd-hostnamed is | Apr 01 01:26 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed only dependancy is dbus. | Apr 01 01:26 |
| MinceR | have it some sane API (not dbus) | Apr 01 01:26 |
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| MinceR | and let it remember what the dhcp server said my computer smelled like. | Apr 01 01:27 |
| oiaohm | Basically hostnamed your biggest issue is dbus | Apr 01 01:27 |
| MinceR | maybe i would have more issues if i cared to know it better | Apr 01 01:27 |
| MinceR | but i don't want to | Apr 01 01:27 |
| MinceR | i don't even use mdns, i don't allow avahi to even run | Apr 01 01:28 |
| oiaohm | timedated starts off out side systemd as well. | Apr 01 01:29 |
| MinceR | because points in time also have multiple names? | Apr 01 01:29 |
| oiaohm | Mostly about allowing graphical to alter time and date without having user sudo and the like. | Apr 01 01:29 |
| MinceR | what if i don't need a GUI to set my clock? | Apr 01 01:29 |
| MinceR | because i'm not retarded? | Apr 01 01:30 |
| oiaohm | timedated and hostnamed both should techically only be run on demard by dbus. | Apr 01 01:30 |
| MinceR | as for "without having user sudo and the like", fuck polkit in hell | Apr 01 01:30 |
| MinceR | along with its stupid built-in javascript interpreter. | Apr 01 01:30 |
| oiaohm | built in javascript what are you refering to. | Apr 01 01:31 |
| MinceR | polkit | Apr 01 01:31 |
| MinceR | also known as policykit | Apr 01 01:31 |
| MinceR | also known as "when did i ask for this gaping security hole to exist on my server?" | Apr 01 01:31 |
| MinceR | because sudo was too easy to manager | Apr 01 01:32 |
| MinceR | s/r$// | Apr 01 01:33 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/03/31/the-woman-punisher-donald-trumps-new-movie | Apr 01 01:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I had forgot that evil because I normally don't want to think about it. Javascript in polkit was an attempt to include the complexity of selinux without being too much of a nightmare. | Apr 01 01:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's an excuse for everything | Apr 01 01:36 |
| MinceR | also, implying that the complexity of selinux was a good thing | Apr 01 01:36 |
| MinceR | these guys really do worship "Beautiful Complexity", don't they? | Apr 01 01:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really I wish it would go away replaced by cython | Apr 01 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Basically write rules complie into dll and be done. | Apr 01 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Not like polkit really need an interpeter. | Apr 01 01:38 |
| MinceR | i like the openbsd approach better | Apr 01 01:38 |
| oiaohm | And that is. | Apr 01 01:38 |
| MinceR | instead of making up a huge ruleset about what our programs are allowed to do, remove the crap that does things that shouldn't be done in the first place | Apr 01 01:38 |
| MinceR | much simpler -> lot fewer opportunities for bugs | Apr 01 01:38 |
| MinceR | iirc there were even exploits made possible by MAC systems already | Apr 01 01:39 |
| oiaohm | With polkit allowing for user actions to be time limited and other things requires some complexity. | Apr 01 01:39 |
| MinceR | did i ever ask for user actions to be time limited? | Apr 01 01:39 |
| oiaohm | Its covering every case. | Apr 01 01:40 |
| oiaohm | covering every case simple solution is built a block. | Apr 01 01:40 |
| MinceR | it's 2016, almost everyone walks around with a computer in their pocket, can we please stop pretending that multiseat desktops and giving users time slots are important use cases? | Apr 01 01:40 |
| MinceR | we had such an era and somehow we survived without polkit | Apr 01 01:40 |
| oiaohm | Business still like termianl services for critical records. | Apr 01 01:41 |
| MinceR | let's stop breaking the systems of today for the needs of the last decade! | Apr 01 01:41 |
| MinceR | yes, and which of those uses polkit? | Apr 01 01:41 |
| MinceR | (hint: polkit didn't even exist when those were implemented and first used) | Apr 01 01:41 |
| oiaohm | computer in pocket does not mean you want to tranfer key business files to it. So you use it as a thin client to see those documents. | Apr 01 01:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'll use the laptop for that | Apr 01 01:42 |
| MinceR | at least until i get a DragonBox Pyra | Apr 01 01:42 |
| MinceR | and that has nothing to do with the size of the device | Apr 01 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Again laptop may only be sent image of document not the document if it form of secure. | Apr 01 01:42 |
| MinceR | and everything to do with the way they completely fucked up mobile devices | Apr 01 01:42 |
| oiaohm | So there is still a thin-client usage case. | Apr 01 01:42 |
| oiaohm | and that usage case is not going away. | Apr 01 01:43 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure my laptop is more secure than any winblows or lendows machine | Apr 01 01:43 |
| oiaohm | Business have a lot of stolen laptops. | Apr 01 01:43 |
| MinceR | mainly because it doesn't run every bit of bullshit some idiot thought could come in handy someday | Apr 01 01:43 |
| MinceR | no laptop in my trust was ever stolen | Apr 01 01:43 |
| oiaohm | Or stupidly lost. | Apr 01 01:43 |
| MinceR | also, there's such a thing as "full disk encryption" | Apr 01 01:43 |
| oiaohm | full disk encryption does not help you if it stolen unlocked. | Apr 01 01:44 |
| MinceR | they'd have to rob me to get it from me unlocked | Apr 01 01:44 |
| oiaohm | As I say there is a usage case for thin-clients and its never going to disappear. | Apr 01 01:44 |
| oiaohm | Now can for usage cases that are not thin-clients could it be made better I would absolutely agree. | Apr 01 01:45 |
| MinceR | yes there is | Apr 01 01:45 |
| MinceR | but the clients still need to be secure | Apr 01 01:45 |
| MinceR | also, if a business can afford all its employees use laptops, then it can also afford all its employees use thin clients | Apr 01 01:46 |
| MinceR | for example, the laptops themselves | Apr 01 01:46 |
| oiaohm | multi user per server remains while thin-client usage remains. | Apr 01 01:46 |
| MinceR | and if every user has their own thin client device, there's no need to fuck around with time slots and multihead desktops | Apr 01 01:46 |
| MinceR | servers can handle the load | Apr 01 01:47 |
| MinceR | easily | Apr 01 01:47 |
| MinceR | and if they can't, the solution is not "let's restrict when our employees are allowed to do actual work during their work hours!" | Apr 01 01:47 |
| MinceR | because that would be catastrophically stupid | Apr 01 01:47 |
| MinceR | also, in that case, none of the multiseat issues apply | Apr 01 01:48 |
| oiaohm | time locking some things on polkit makes sense in a multiseat. So you don't want someone doing a server reboot without approve in middle of work hours. | Apr 01 01:49 |
| MinceR | i don't want anyone who's not a sysadmin doing a server reboot, period | Apr 01 01:49 |
| MinceR | sysadmins are expected to have root access and to know when work hours are | Apr 01 01:49 |
| oiaohm | reboot was only one example. | Apr 01 01:50 |
| oiaohm | But there are many more and it why polkit was given so much flex. | Apr 01 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Using a JIT for the flex I really don't agree with. | Apr 01 01:50 |
| MinceR | multiseat does not apply because no ordinary users are allowed even near the console of the servers; and they all have one machine the console of which is assigned to them at all times | Apr 01 01:51 |
| oiaohm | Not like you should be changing the polkit rules every 5 mins. | Apr 01 01:51 |
| MinceR | yes, there are always excuses | Apr 01 01:51 |
| MinceR | forcing polkit on everyone who has no such needs, on the other hand, is inexcusable | Apr 01 01:51 |
| MinceR | the same thing applies for the rest of the lendows components | Apr 01 01:51 |
| MinceR | like logind | Apr 01 01:51 |
| oiaohm | polkit with dbus is also about reduce amount of code with running privilage. | Apr 01 01:52 |
| oiaohm | logind is about stopping every DE on Linux having it own individual session management server that is incompadible with each other. | Apr 01 01:52 |
| MinceR | i'm not seeing that | Apr 01 01:52 |
| MinceR | polkit is running as root | Apr 01 01:52 |
| MinceR | they wanted dbus to run not merely as root, but in fucking ring 0 | Apr 01 01:53 |
| oiaohm | If you read polkit you documentation will see that distributions have screwed it up. | Apr 01 01:53 |
| MinceR | no, logind is about making every DE on Linux require systemd | Apr 01 01:53 |
| oiaohm | polkit is in fact coded not to need privilage. | Apr 01 01:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is meant to be a polkit user | Apr 01 01:54 |
| MinceR | looks like the amount of code is being increased | Apr 01 01:54 |
| MinceR | and the privilege code runs with is also being increased | Apr 01 01:54 |
| MinceR | this is the opposite of what should be happening | Apr 01 01:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: tell debian maintainers that. | Apr 01 01:54 |
| oiaohm | Remember what I said about Linux being full of ignored bugs. | Apr 01 01:56 |
| oiaohm | If polkit and dbus are working correctly the amount of high privilage code should be reduced. | Apr 01 01:56 |
| oiaohm | even logind design is was about reducing that. | Apr 01 01:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is a long way to go to get Linux clean and secure as the design of it parts allow. | Apr 01 01:57 |
| MinceR | and it's going in the other direction | Apr 01 01:57 |
| oiaohm | In places yes. | Apr 01 01:57 |
| oiaohm | Fixing up namespaces and cgroups is going in kind of a correct direction. | Apr 01 01:58 |
| MinceR | systemd is not, though | Apr 01 01:58 |
| MinceR | and neither is kdbus | Apr 01 01:58 |
| oiaohm | kdbus is dead. | Apr 01 01:58 |
| MinceR | and if bus1 ends up "we try kdbus again and see if anyone notices", then neither is that | Apr 01 01:58 |
| oiaohm | systemd wrapping services in namespace and cgroups to provide highest default secuirty level without LSM active is a path in the correct direction. | Apr 01 02:00 |
| oiaohm | Of course what ever init system replaces systemd you would want it to keep that. | Apr 01 02:00 |
| MinceR | except for the huge hairball that's never been fully audited but is changing quickly, running as root | Apr 01 02:00 |
| MinceR | and part of it in a way that if it crashes, it may well take the rest of the system down with itself | Apr 01 02:00 |
| oiaohm | Note I said sections are going in the right direction. | Apr 01 02:01 |
| oiaohm | Not that everything is. | Apr 01 02:01 |
| MinceR | the users who are switching to openbsd? :> | Apr 01 02:01 |
| oiaohm | More presure to audit Linux properly when they do. | Apr 01 02:01 |
| MinceR | audit would be much easier if we didn't have these enormous hairballs trying to do everything | Apr 01 02:02 |
| oiaohm | The stuff that did systemd job before systemd was not properly audited either. | Apr 01 02:02 |
| MinceR | but it would have been much easier to audit | Apr 01 02:03 |
| MinceR | as it was far smaller | Apr 01 02:03 |
| oiaohm | The one thing about openbsd has been the mandatory audit process. | Apr 01 02:03 |
| MinceR | and tried to do a lot less | Apr 01 02:03 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 01 02:03 |
| MinceR | and you can see they're not fond of adding bloat | Apr 01 02:03 |
| MinceR | because it would make audit much more costly | Apr 01 02:03 |
| oiaohm | openbsd got rid of sysvinit very quickly. | Apr 01 02:03 |
| oiaohm | and replaced it. | Apr 01 02:04 |
| MinceR | yet their init is not that different in design, afaik | Apr 01 02:04 |
| MinceR | as for the rc, there's at least 1 GNU/Linux distro that already uses BSD-style rc scripts | Apr 01 02:04 |
| oiaohm | It different enough that it works on a BSD kernel properly. | Apr 01 02:04 |
| oiaohm | Using bsd init system on Linux kernel results in issues like sysvinit suffers from on Linux. | Apr 01 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Init system does need to match how kernel functions. | Apr 01 02:05 |
| MinceR | yes, rarely occurring unlikely issues that only happen if the sysadmin is doing something or the system is booting (as services don't get started or stopped ad hoc) | Apr 01 02:07 |
| MinceR | and are easy to find and fix | Apr 01 02:07 |
| oiaohm | Please remember bsd init on a BSD kernel a stack of issues just don't happen ever. | Apr 01 02:08 |
| MinceR | hm, actually iirc bsd rc makes killing services safer | Apr 01 02:08 |
| MinceR | at least one just assumes you can kill processes by name, since you're not supposed to run more than one of them | Apr 01 02:08 |
| MinceR | one implementation i saw, anyway | Apr 01 02:08 |
| MinceR | instead of pid files | Apr 01 02:09 |
| oiaohm | rarely occurring unlikely issues has been excuse not to fix linux issues. | Apr 01 02:09 |
| MinceR | still preferable to an impossible to understand monstrosity that can fuck up big time at any moment | Apr 01 02:09 |
| MinceR | (in part because it likes respawning services that die) | Apr 01 02:10 |
| oiaohm | If you spend some time on BSD systems you will lean that sysvinit systems that Linux was not that good. Because you will have excussed thing as rare that should not happen at all. | Apr 01 02:13 |
| oiaohm | So the Linux init system need to die. | Apr 01 02:13 |
| oiaohm | I don't think systemd is the right replacement but at least it change. | Apr 01 02:13 |
| oiaohm | personally on design I think openrc is more the right replacement. | Apr 01 02:14 |
| MinceR | there's no system that will never make errors | Apr 01 02:15 |
| MinceR | consider the effect of cosmic rays on RAM and CPU components, for example | Apr 01 02:15 |
| MinceR | or hash-based deduplication in RAM and on disk, vs. hash collisions | Apr 01 02:15 |
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| MinceR | btw, what happens if the cgroup counter wraps around? | Apr 01 02:23 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: so it has a creation time stamp. 64 bit number on each entry. Wrap around of that is kinda too long to worry about hardware is not going to be operational that long. | Apr 01 02:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | right here https://t.co/LoK3wV9Vzk | Apr 01 04:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) MSIE for Linux | Apr 01 04:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Catch all of the Android April Fools' Day jokes right here | Android Central | Apr 01 04:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Internet Explorer for Linux is available for download - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Apr 01 04:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @phil3en favourited 'Business Oriented Language Lives On Confirms Knoppix Spinoff...' | Apr 01 04:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Passwordless encryption of the Linux root partition on...' | Apr 01 04:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Simplicity Linux 16.04 Enters Beta, Ships with Linux...' | Apr 01 04:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha Linux Released for AArch64 and...' | Apr 01 05:56 | |
| oiaohm | Ok some people idea of april fools day jokes sux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX | Apr 01 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet Explorer for UNIX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 01 06:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715834222368464898 | Apr 01 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: @schestowitz We stopped joking about Microsoft buying OSS companies a long time ago... | Apr 01 06:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sinaNegusRex/status/715856353688993794 | Apr 01 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sinaNegusRex: @petrakramer @schestowitz LOLZ | Apr 01 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/galoppini/status/715820800692133889 | Apr 01 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@galoppini: Breaking News: Microsoft Mobile Technologies Go Open Source! https://t.co/0N68C6Gv9C | Apr 01 07:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> robertogaloppini.net | Microsoft Mobile Technologies Go Open Source! | Commercial Open Source Software | Apr 01 07:11 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha Linux Released for AArch64 and...' | Apr 01 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 0 A.D. Alpha 20 Timosthenes Free RTS Game | Apr 01 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Ten New Maps, More | Apr 01 07:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | 0 A.D. Alpha 20 Timosthenes Free RTS Game Released with Ten New Maps, More | Apr 01 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slackware Linux: Shocking News! [satire] | Apr 01 07:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://all-things-linux.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/slackware-linux-shocking- ) | Apr 01 07:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/neocog/status/715792283388477440 | Apr 01 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@neocog: Google joins Fair Standards Alliance @fair_standards @FOSSpatents @SpicyIP @AllThingsFRAND | Apr 01 07:23 | |
| schestowitz | Joke | Apr 01 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat NSA, SUSE Phone, Fedora Looking Great | Apr 01 07:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat NSA, SUSE Phone, Fedora Looking Great | Tux Machines | Apr 01 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Phone, openSUSE Conference | Apr 01 07:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Phone, openSUSE Conference | Tux Machines | Apr 01 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat's EVP of Strategy and Marketing | Apr 01 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Discusses Diversity and Inclusion at Politik's | Apr 01 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Interzone https://t.co/9vxH3vd4YT | Apr 01 07:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techvibes.com | Red Hat’s EVP of Strategy and Marketing Discusses Diversity and Inclusion at Politik’s Interzone - Techvibes.com | Apr 01 07:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @creativeguerril @tuxmachines Enjoyed your thinking I'd love to | Apr 01 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | interview you for my blog. Did you see the | Apr 01 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | questions in my bio? | Apr 01 07:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @marketingchamp7 followed @tuxmachines | Apr 01 07:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iamkevtorious/status/715870685239898113 | Apr 01 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iamkevtorious: @schestowitz thx for article. | Apr 01 07:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IF and DO Button by IFTTT on Android Wear – | Apr 01 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android customization https://t.co/EbAWoJjq13 | Apr 01 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | IF and DO Button by IFTTT on Android Wear - Android customization - Android Authority | Apr 01 08:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to add Android N’s best new features to | Apr 01 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your phone right now https://t.co/ziuOQFeTin | Apr 01 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (bgr.com) | Apr 01 08:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android N Features: How to install them on your phone right now | BGR | Apr 01 08:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715882730169479168 | Apr 01 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz just take a look at permissions which it requires. I cant install this)) | Apr 01 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | ^Signal | Apr 01 08:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715884526090719232 | Apr 01 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Пора заканчивать с Debian, не просто так недавно убили его основателя. Смотрю в сторону Devuan. https://t.co/9kVYKq5NZw | Apr 01 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Debian announces partnership to sub-contract publicity and press to an outside marketing agency https://t.co/BYygFUosJI Debiasoft? | Apr 01 08:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InnGadgets followed @tuxmachines | Apr 01 08:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Headliner: BlackBerry’s Android | Apr 01 08:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hesitation Will Cost Them | Apr 01 08:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Android Headliner: BlackBerry's Android Hesitation Will Cost Them | Androidheadlines.com | Apr 01 08:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Gear Manager updated to version | Apr 01 08:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.2.16022241 for Tizen Smartwatches | Apr 01 08:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Gear Manager updated to version 2.2.16022241 for Tizen Smartwatches - Tizen Experts | Apr 01 08:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/Xe2qcoNzRN | Apr 01 08:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Apr 01 08:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Apr 01 08:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 08:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online | Apr 01 08:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | account https://t.co/nlXepfVacL | Apr 01 08:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online account | Tux Machines | Apr 01 08:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/715893324905897984 | Apr 01 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz FRAND in this context is just about licensing terms. Not subject matter or examination guidelines. | Apr 01 09:31 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.csoonline.com/article/3049999/security/feds-tackle-open-source-code-quality.html | Apr 01 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Feds tackle open source code quality | CSO Online | Apr 01 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source software opens door to web design | Apr 01 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | career https://t.co/Qqyzp4Ht9i | Apr 01 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source software opens door to web design career | Tux Machines | Apr 01 09:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NixOS 16.03 Released https://t.co/XRnzmmscXX | Apr 01 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NixOS 16.03 Released | Tux Machines | Apr 01 09:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @DiverstInc favourited 'Red Hat's EVP of Strategy and Marketing Discusses...' | Apr 01 10:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '0 A.D. Alpha 20 Timosthenes Free RTS Game...' | Apr 01 10:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for | Apr 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux on Steam https://t.co/6tcu5PFR2m | Apr 01 10:31 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @fasbindr followed @tuxmachines | Apr 01 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Devices https://t.co/UIMhbLNkou | Apr 01 10:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/4TJChMSOJm | Apr 01 10:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/PFSAKhNt57 | Apr 01 10:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/TAZgCcyqrQ | Apr 01 10:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for GNU/Linux on Steam | Techrights | Apr 01 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Apr 01 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Apr 01 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 01 10:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 01 10:31 | |
| MinceR | https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/plastic/ | Apr 01 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Google Cardboard Plastic - Google [ http://ur1.ca/oq4po ] | Apr 01 10:50 | |
| XFaCE | "UPDATE: Well, it looks like we pranked ourselves this year. 😟 Due to a bug, the Mic Drop feature inadvertently caused more headaches than laughs. We’re truly sorry. The feature has been turned off. If you are still seeing it, please reload your Gmail page." | Apr 01 10:57 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 01 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/fDnVeUYCt7 | Apr 01 10:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 10:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for | Apr 01 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by GNU/Linux on Steam https://t.co/6tcu5PFR2m | Apr 01 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Apr 01 10:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ekendo retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for GNU/Linux...' | Apr 01 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NixOS 16.03 Released https://t.co/4a1xztAaa1 | Apr 01 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NixOS 16.03 Released - Phoronix | Apr 01 10:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/715915823358017537 | Apr 01 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Not to mention hoovering all data in customer's systems Why would you give them anything ( especially your business ) ??? | Apr 01 11:00 | |
| XFaCE | https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-climate-redesign-160401/ | Apr 01 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | The Pirate Bay Reveals New "Climate Saving" Design - TorrentFreak | Apr 01 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cvbnz/microsoft_vows_to_stop_all_patent_lawsuits_and/ | Apr 01 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs : linux | Apr 01 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Without reading, this has to be an April Fool's joke." | Apr 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | ..will return money to all but those that are already defunct or bankrupt... | Apr 01 11:03 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 01 11:03 |
| schestowitz | (well it is actually sad, but good April full joke) | Apr 01 11:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 11:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 01 11:03 |
| MinceR | indeed, excellent april fools -- calls attention to the evil that's still going on | Apr 01 11:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | this can't be real... next the sun will start rising in the west... | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | but seriously. if this is true and genuine ... this is an amazing about-face in MS's stance and strategy. i have to say i am ... impressed. keep this up and i might begin liking you MS! well done and thumbs up. give wounds time to heal and keep it up. | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | /u/Kruug, taking the piss I see. | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Well played :D | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | "I thought about mod-stickying it, but I didn't think it would be in good taste." | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | "No arguments here!" | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | "WHy it's posted on 31st of March if it's an April Fool's joke?" | Apr 01 11:04 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cuzgq/its_april_1st_and_with_all_those_ms_threads/ | Apr 01 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | It's April 1st and with all those MS threads recently I have no idea what is true or not anymore : linux | Apr 01 11:05 | |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 11:05 |
| XFaCE | https://torrentfreak.com/50000-people-protest-dmca-abuse-crash-government-server-160401/ | Apr 01 11:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | 50,000 People Protest DMCA Abuse, "Crash" Government Server - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/oq4uo ] | Apr 01 11:08 | |
| XFaCE | not actually fake | Apr 01 11:08 |
| XFaCE | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160331/15203434070/stupid-patent-month-mega-troll-intellectual-ventures-hits-florist-with-do-it-on-a-computer-scheduling-patent.shtml | Apr 01 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Stupid Patent Of The Month: Mega-Troll Intellectual Ventures Hits Florist With Do-It-On-A-Computer Scheduling Patent | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oq4v4 ] | Apr 01 11:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online | Apr 01 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | account https://t.co/V1RFzf0ScM | Apr 01 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexl.netsons.org | Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online account – Alex L. | Apr 01 11:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Apr 01 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/063EANqhTA (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | ZDNet | Apr 01 11:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Linux tablet aims to make Ubuntu desktop | Apr 01 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobile https://t.co/fHvimS2q2C (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/scprVVVCdd (www.geeky-gadgets.com) | Apr 01 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | New Linux tablet aims to make Ubuntu desktop mobile | ZDNet | Apr 01 11:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Ubuntu Linux Tablet Launches On Indiegogo From $230 (video) - Geeky Gadgets | Apr 01 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bbhorne/status/715123480698753024 | Apr 01 12:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bbhorne: @bradheath @ioerror This is very similar to what Laurie Love is being threatened with in the UK at his hearing on April 12. | Apr 01 12:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jim_Harper/status/714641572818771968 | Apr 01 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jim_Harper: "What is the Christian version of ISIS?" "The Central Intelligence Agency." | Apr 01 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715936201191071744 | Apr 01 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Now you understand what being a Nazi feels like. https://t.co/geNXW4Ls5j | Apr 01 12:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When people are put in prison not because they're dangerous but because they threaten the status quo or of the 'wrong' race/culture... | Apr 01 12:20 | |
| MinceR | nazis weren't dangerous? that's new | Apr 01 12:21 |
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| belle105 | hi does anyone knows who is freenode answerable to? if anyone at ll ... | Apr 01 12:31 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 01 12:32 |
| MinceR | probably some subset of its staff | Apr 01 12:32 |
| belle105 | possibly , but its not very effcient if the problem is one of them or their head | Apr 01 12:33 |
| belle105 | ¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯ | Apr 01 12:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 01 12:34 |
| belle105 | lol | Apr 01 12:35 |
| belle105 | who knows | Apr 01 12:35 |
| MinceR | we're living in a Crapsack World | Apr 01 12:35 |
| belle105 | we are ? | Apr 01 12:36 |
| belle105 | i was hoping not | Apr 01 12:36 |
| belle105 | :) | Apr 01 12:36 |
| razielle_tzu | freenode is managed by a group of volunteers, it used to be answerable to the PDPC but they shut down | Apr 01 12:37 |
| belle105 | ok thanks. :) i am new to irc | Apr 01 12:37 |
| belle105 | learning..... continuously | Apr 01 12:38 |
| belle105 | some odd things happening | Apr 01 12:38 |
| belle105 | and no one to talk to really | Apr 01 12:38 |
| belle105 | thank you have a lovely weekend :) | Apr 01 12:39 |
| razielle_tzu | freenode is split into roughly four areas that have one person at the lead https://freenode.net/people | Apr 01 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The People - freenode | Apr 01 12:39 | |
| belle105 | i can't use internal hierarchy | Apr 01 12:40 |
| belle105 | i have to go out of freenode | Apr 01 12:40 |
| MinceR | you could go to court | Apr 01 12:41 |
| XFaCE | belle105: what happened? | Apr 01 12:41 |
| belle105 | i rather not say her eits delicate | Apr 01 12:41 |
| MinceR | or use your own military force, if any | Apr 01 12:41 |
| belle105 | here * | Apr 01 12:41 |
| belle105 | suffice to say i have reported an incident at a request of a friend. which involved the head of freenode | Apr 01 12:42 |
| belle105 | and since then | Apr 01 12:42 |
| MinceR | http://avoidtheinternet.today/ | Apr 01 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-avoidtheinternet.today | Avoid the Internet | Apr 01 12:42 | |
| belle105 | we have been targeted | Apr 01 12:42 |
| belle105 | haha april 1 .... | Apr 01 12:43 |
| belle105 | l thank you again have a nice Friday / wknd | Apr 01 12:44 |
| belle105 | bye | Apr 01 12:44 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: well that was bizarre | Apr 01 12:44 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Apr 01 12:45 |
| MinceR | but then so are the people in charge of freenode and oftc | Apr 01 12:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: wonder why she came here | Apr 01 12:50 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 01 12:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.wired.com/2016/03/microsoft-delights-devs-freeing-xamarin-coding-tools/ | Apr 01 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Microsoft Delights Devs By Freeing Its Xamarin Coding Tools | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/oq5gj ] | Apr 01 12:52 | |
| XFaCE | "Delights" | Apr 01 12:52 |
| XFaCE | 'Freeing' | Apr 01 12:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 12:52 |
| MinceR | some "Devs" they are if they're "Delighted" by such crapware | Apr 01 12:52 |
| XFaCE | "Those were surely some of the questions on the minds of developers last month when Microsoft announced that it would acquire Xamarin, a company that makes tools that help coders build applications that can run on multiple systems, including those made by Microsoft’s rivals, namely Android and iOS. " | Apr 01 12:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Woah, totally missed that new | Apr 01 12:53 |
| XFaCE | *s | Apr 01 12:53 |
| XFaCE | "That said, Microsoft isn’t giving away all of Xamarin’s source code. “We’re releasing the Xamarin runtime and all the command line tools you need to build apps,” Xamarin co-founder Nat Friedman said in a comment on the Hacker News forum. But he added that some of Xamarin’s code editing tools will remain proprietary, though they’ll be free to use." | Apr 01 12:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: same old story | Apr 01 12:57 |
| XFaCE | WIRED removed comments I've seen | Apr 01 12:57 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: guessing the koolaid must flow uninhibited | Apr 01 12:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 01 12:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7204867 | Apr 01 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The 'new' #microsoft https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/715915823358017537 recall http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA & http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Apr 01 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt for what? I stopped using Windows at home more than ten years ago and I do not need it." | Apr 01 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Not to mention hoovering all data in customer's systems Why would you give them anything ( especially your business ) ??? | Apr 01 13:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Apr 01 13:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Apr 01 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <XFaCE> "Delights" | Apr 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <XFaCE> 'Freeing' | Apr 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | We LOVE Xamarin, don't we? | Apr 01 13:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 13:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, i love xamarin so much! :launches nuclear ICBM at xamarin: | Apr 01 13:22 |
| MinceR | (Powered by Microsoft(r) Love(tm)) | Apr 01 13:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7204643 | Apr 01 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The rise of politicians who give the poor hope by promising to kill >other< poor people (often other ethnics groups). A worrisome trend. | Apr 01 13:22 | |
| schestowitz | "And the problem is not only the politician making unethical promises, but all of his followers as well." | Apr 01 13:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I have an article about this in drafts | Apr 01 13:23 |
| schestowitz | but not enough time to get around to it | Apr 01 13:23 |
| schestowitz | besides, it looks like people aren'y fooled by de Icaza anymore | Apr 01 13:23 |
| MinceR | well, ending the overpopulation issue is worthy of hope | Apr 01 13:23 |
| MinceR | though they'd probably have to kill rich people to do that too | Apr 01 13:23 |
| schestowitz | So I see plenty of resistance to this "love" anyway | Apr 01 13:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nuclear winter isn;t the solution | Apr 01 13:23 |
| schestowitz | it harms food resources, long term too | Apr 01 13:23 |
| schestowitz | so famine and fewer overall resources on the planet, for other species too | Apr 01 13:24 |
| schestowitz | I hope for overpopulation without radical events | Apr 01 13:24 |
| schestowitz | but there's some brain virus like religious that say produce as many offsprings as possible | Apr 01 13:24 |
| schestowitz | To make the people who control the religion (the ringleaders) richer and more powerful | Apr 01 13:24 |
| schestowitz | !google wealth of brunei sultan | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Sultan of Brunei Net Worth - biography, quotes, wiki, assets, cars ... | http://www.bornrich.com/sultan-haji-hassanal-bolkiah.html | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Top 15 Wealthiest Royals - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/global/2008/0901/038.html | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah Net Worth - TheRichest | http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/politician/royal/hassanal-bolkiah-net-worth/ | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Royal Family Of Brunei Wealth - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/royal-family-of-brunei-wealth-2014-5 | Apr 01 13:25 |
| schestowitz | !google wealth of vatican | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Pope Francis Fails To Mention The Vatican Billions As He Gives ... | http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-fails-mention-vatican-billions-gives-speech-denouncing-wealth/ | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - How rich is the Vatican? So wealthy it can stumble across millions of ... | http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-millions-euros-just-tucked-away-1478219 | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Vatican Billions - Two Thousand Years of Wealth Accumulation ... | http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_billions.htm | Apr 01 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Roman Catholics: The Vatican's Wealth - TIME | http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833509,00.html | Apr 01 13:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: that won't stop humanity from causing it though | Apr 01 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715955924637061120 | Apr 01 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yashalevine: Tor, the best kiddie abuse-porn network federal money can buy. @brokenrib @schestowitz | Apr 01 13:37 | |
| schestowitz | ^^pando writers | Apr 01 13:39 |
| schestowitz | me: #pando continues its notorious attack on #tor and its users, developers etc. labelling them paedophiles and such… | Apr 01 13:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/715957189530222592 | Apr 01 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz @yashalevine @brokenrib Looks like someone has a case of wishful thinking. | Apr 01 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | Haha | Apr 01 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $10 Orange Pi One Linux Benchmarks Against The | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi & Other ARM Boards | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v85NLEki5f (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5qz | Apr 01 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | $10 Orange Pi One Linux Benchmarks Against The Raspberry Pi & Other ARM Boards - Phoronix | Apr 01 13:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines France unveils source code of income tax | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | application https://t.co/5n2mZL5HSm | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5r0 | Apr 01 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France unveils source code of income tax application | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux container security is on the evolutionary | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fast track https://t.co/9ejdlWVBsU | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com) | Apr 01 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5r2 | Apr 01 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com | Linux container security is on the evolutionary fast track | Apr 01 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715958460110807041 | Apr 01 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yashalevine: The best anonymity-abuse network Pentagon money can buy...most traffic is abusive. https://t.co/8yGuAaoddi https://t.co/CiHcO1yU7x | Apr 01 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | CloudFlare: 94 percent of the Tor traffic we see is “per se malicious” | Ars Technica | Apr 01 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #pando continues its notorious attack on #tor and its users, developers etc. labelling them paedophiles and such... https://t.co/Poux2qvJx2 | Apr 01 13:47 | |
| schestowitz | says cloudflare | Apr 01 13:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/715960986541432833 | Apr 01 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Yeey Atlantis ;'-)) https://t.co/reRbJewHbz | Apr 01 13:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA Used Submarine Probes To Listen In On Undersea Cable Communications https://t.co/AM1rNNaxA0 worse than https://t.co/0c2bgrofz5 | Apr 01 13:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat boosts open source system business | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rZnS0Fngrf (www.koreatimes.co.kr) | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xl | Apr 01 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreatimes.co.kr | Red Hat boosts open source system business | Apr 01 14:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android tablets: April 2016 edition | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kEkCknPUpN (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xm | Apr 01 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android tablets: April 2016 edition | ZDNet | Apr 01 14:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not even Google's Android can pull BlackBerry | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | out of its tailspin https://t.co/PkYDCVwleI | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cnet.com) | Apr 01 14:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xn | Apr 01 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Not even Google's Android can pull BlackBerry out of its tailspin - CNET | Apr 01 14:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cvbnz/microsoft_vows_to_stop_all_patent_lawsuits_and/ | Apr 01 14:22 |
| schestowitz | "April Fools' jokes posted in the morning by people in the rest of the world get timestamped 31st of March by US servers." | Apr 01 14:22 |
| schestowitz | "Timezones, probably. And the notion of keeping the reader guessing whether it's one or not." | Apr 01 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oq5z0 ] | Apr 01 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeLauriLove/status/715967947223736320 | Apr 01 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreeLauriLove: @schestowitz Support Lauri Love's effort against extradition. https://t.co/KyHMyy1hF6 Fundraiser: https://t.co/4B4W0VRT12 | Apr 01 14:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://freelauri.com/category/take-action/ ) | Apr 01 14:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> couragefoundation.spreadshirt.co.uk | Lauri Love | Courage Foundation UK | Apr 01 14:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715958460110807041 | Apr 01 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Unless #cloudflare has pedophilia sites as "customers", this does nothing to support your (and Pando's) latest smears against #tor | Apr 01 14:31 |
| MinceR | http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/world-standard-organizations-to-release-entirely-reworked-standards/ | Apr 01 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | World Standard Organizations to Release Entirely Reworked Standards | Hackaday [ http://ur1.ca/oq6c7 ] | Apr 01 14:58 | |
| MinceR | notice they went the extra mile, including "ISO" as a "Standard Organization". hilarious! | Apr 01 14:58 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/apple-introduces-their-answer-to-the-raspberry-pi/ | Apr 01 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | Apple Introduces Their Answer To The Raspberry Pi | Hackaday [ http://ur1.ca/oq6o0 ] | Apr 01 15:28 | |
| MinceR | seen it | Apr 01 15:28 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1446 | Apr 01 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/31/2016 | Apr 01 15:34 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: https://www.bahnhof.se/press/press-releases/2016/04/01/bahnhof-infor-konsindelat-internet | Apr 01 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bahnhof.se | Bahnhof inför könsindelat internet - Nyheter [ http://ur1.ca/oq6rn ] | Apr 01 15:36 | |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 15:37 |
| MinceR | i don't speak swedish though | Apr 01 15:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ne bona | Apr 01 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SA's first Red Hat learnership begins | Apr 01 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qRXnSTvJ64 (www.itweb.co.za) | Apr 01 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6tm | Apr 01 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | SA's first Red Hat learnership begins | ITWeb | Apr 01 15:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/cXTEaFdRoC | Apr 01 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6tn | Apr 01 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More Android Leftovers https://t.co/ybbXESsIbp | Apr 01 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6to | Apr 01 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:42 | |
| schestowitz | Re: This is what I talked about | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > This is what I talked you about that permission I requested from Bloomber | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > editor: | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > From: "Atika Valbrun (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)" <avalbrun@bloomberg.net> | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > To: elwanka@gmail.com | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Cc: jgreiff@bloomberg.net | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Re:Fwd:Permission regardin Article Noah Smith | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Eduardo Landaveri, | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for your interest in Bloomberg content. In order to purchase a | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > specific Bloomberg article, please go to our partner website YGS at the link | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > below and complete the permissions form in full detail. | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Please also find contact details below in case you need further assistance: | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theygsgroup.com/permissionsform | Apr 01 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theygsgroup.com | Permissions Form | The YGS Group [ http://ur1.ca/oq730 ] | Apr 01 16:04 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Aimee Gray | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > aimee.gray@theygsgroup.com | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Account Manager | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > Content Sales & Licensing | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > The YGS Group | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > 3650 West Market Street | York, PA 17404 | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > p: 717.505.9701 ext. 2390 f: 888.608.0288 | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > --- | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > Who the heck that YGS group belong? I'll investigate later. For the moment, | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > there are more important things to do. | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | > Cheers | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | "Content Sales & Licensing" | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Excuse me, I've got to go to the toilet to throw up... | Apr 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | [this is for Spanish translation] | Apr 01 16:07 |
| schestowitz | not even making a copy | Apr 01 16:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zippydazipster/status/715996355349635073 | Apr 01 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zippydazipster: @schestowitz @hackaday difference will be the apple one is 5x the price and you won't be able to change the battery? 😉 | Apr 01 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205541 | Apr 01 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Companies like #facebook force band to rename http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7318701/norwegian-band-slutface-changes-name-slotface-social-media-censorship http://www.gigwise.com/news/106254/slutface-forced-to-change-name-by-facebook-to-slotface-spong-state http://diymag.com/2016/04/01/slutface-change-name-to-slotface-share-new-single #censorship | Apr 01 16:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.billboard.com | Slutface Changes Name After 'Social Media Censorship' | Billboard [ http://ur1.ca/oq7ph ] | Apr 01 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | "shouldnt that mean that #facebook is not a feasible platform for about 80% of underground punk bands out there…?" | Apr 01 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gigwise.com | Social media censorship forces Slutface to change name | Gigwise [ http://ur1.ca/oq7pi ] | Apr 01 16:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> diymag.com | Slutface change name to SLØTFACE, share new single | DIY [ http://ur1.ca/oq7pj ] | Apr 01 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | Facebook is not in the free speech business but in social engineering. Watch who invests... | Apr 01 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v9zvrgXAEu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq7rp | Apr 01 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Tux Machines | Apr 01 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fair Source licensing is the worst thing to | Apr 01 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | happen to open source-definitely maybe | Apr 01 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JbtSpVrlyR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 17:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fair Source licensing is the worst thing to happen to open source-definitely maybe | Tux Machines | Apr 01 17:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Apr 01 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3gE6iHgFEs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 17:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 01 17:05 | |
| <--jgay has quit (Quit: Happy Hacking. Goodbye.) | Apr 01 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201216 | Apr 01 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why are so many people using ad blockers? http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049655/android/why-are-so-many-people-using-ad-blockers.html security, #privacy and ethics, among other reasons | Apr 01 17:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Why are so many people using ad blockers? | InfoWorld | Apr 01 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Why are some people not using ad blockers?" | Apr 01 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Not aware of the possibility, I guess? | Apr 01 17:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1qIOEE54Tc (hackerboards.com) | Apr 01 17:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 17:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Apr 01 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2UHOZxSszf (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 17:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks - Phoronix | Apr 01 17:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 is ready | Apr 01 17:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oIbloeZdnS (support.zenwalk.org) | Apr 01 17:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.zenwalk.org | Zenwalk Support • View topic - Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 is ready | Apr 01 17:47 | |
| gde33 | https://sci-hub.io | Apr 01 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sci-hub.io | Sci-Hub: removing barriers in the way of science | Apr 01 17:58 | |
| MinceR | great! | Apr 01 18:03 |
| MinceR | have they removed christianity yet? | Apr 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz | there are some papers on Jesus | Apr 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/716024705258401794 | Apr 01 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: (English) @Oracle’s Huge Claims Against #Linux/#Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of #OIN" https://t.co/KKCZtb81Ma https://t.co/R65yfJhkMV | Apr 01 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Apr 01 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_cirrus_minor_: 🖥 Grandes Reclamos de Oracle Contra Linux/Android Demuestra la Futilidad de la OIN https://t.co/hNa6EGyuxL https://t.co/pgXBSHrbSi | Apr 01 18:12 | |
| MinceR | obstacle's crusade against android while being an oin licensee also demonstrates the uselessness of oin | Apr 01 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CoreOS and Intel to Meld Kubernetes, OpenStack | Apr 01 18:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | into Single Stack https://t.co/faSR2BHQv7 | Apr 01 18:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ostatic.com) | Apr 01 18:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | CoreOS and Intel to Meld Kubernetes, OpenStack into Single Stack | Apr 01 18:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "projects such as the UbuntuBSD distribution | Apr 01 18:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | offer a wider range of options to the FOSS | Apr 01 18:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | community at large." https://t.co/5VOdBZl2V8 | Apr 01 18:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Apr 01 18:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | UbuntuBSD | Linux Journal | Apr 01 18:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Human Resource Machine from World of Goo | Apr 01 18:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | creators now on Linux & SteamOS | Apr 01 18:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/x6qVjCcUwI (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 18:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Human Resource Machine from World of Goo creators now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 18:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear DLC | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released with day-1 Linux support | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qIKbwb6zRL (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | not 0-day? | Apr 01 18:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear DLC released with day-1 Linux support | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and I have some thoughts | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eqLSjYIGhV (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 18:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on Linux and I have some thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 18:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @m0nst3rb favourited 'Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on...' | Apr 01 18:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 https://t.co/XOT2kFJpft | Apr 01 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 18:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 18:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine 1.9.7 https://t.co/21rpVOyauf | Apr 01 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 18:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.9.7 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 18:37 | |
| XFaCE | [18:13:04]<MinceR> obstacle's crusade against android while being an oin licensee also demonstrates the uselessness of oin | Apr 01 18:39 |
| XFaCE | it's like having Saudi Arabia as the human rights chair in the UN | Apr 01 18:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, and afaik they really have that position | Apr 01 18:40 |
| XFaCE | my point :P | Apr 01 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't 'get' what Phipps wants MSFT in OIn for, except a symbolic genture | Apr 01 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess he just wants to make an ultimatum or some kind | Apr 01 18:55 |
| schestowitz | good news is, for now, MS if dying in more fronts | Apr 01 18:55 |
| schestowitz | I've read that Windows Phone is sort of "on hold" | Apr 01 18:55 |
| schestowitz | they don't want to say "dead" yet | Apr 01 18:55 |
| MinceR | maybe he believes it would stop m$ from suing people in the exact way it didn't stop obstacle from doing that | Apr 01 19:02 |
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| XFaCE | [19:02:18]<MinceR> maybe he believes it would stop m$ from suing people in the exact way it didn't stop obstacle from doing that | Apr 01 19:23 |
| XFaCE | And Microsoft has never ever lied/manipulated/exploited pledges they have taken | Apr 01 19:23 |
| XFaCE | *lied about | Apr 01 19:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 19:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: BSD https://t.co/o7hcADkxBl | Apr 01 20:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: BSD | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 Provides Shortcuts to the Linux | Apr 01 20:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop https://t.co/SJo6aSX24q (www.eweek.com) | Apr 01 20:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | GNOME 3.20 Provides Shortcuts to the Linux Desktop | Apr 01 20:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true | Apr 01 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UbuntuBSD https://t.co/KkWXxUyCns | Apr 01 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UbuntuBSD | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I hate Microsoft Office https://t.co/AIZ5BQmBQY | Apr 01 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I hate Microsoft Office | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true | Apr 01 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zLbemM1754 (www.alexl.netsons.org) | Apr 01 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexl.netsons.org | Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true – Alex L. | Apr 01 20:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/716068841793654784 | Apr 01 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: @schestowitz give it time. I'm sure the likes of Ocado, Amazon & every major UK supermarket chain will want that data sooner or later... | Apr 01 21:07 | |
| schestowitz | They're cooperating with companies that do this, e.g. #nectar at #sainsburys | Apr 01 21:07 |
| MinceR | http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=af16_feminists | Apr 01 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-maddox.xmission.com | BuzzebelMico9Post [ http://ur1.ca/oqak1 ] | Apr 01 21:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, | Apr 01 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PMOD, and more https://t.co/1gkhkjxbwn | Apr 01 21:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, PMOD, and more | Apr 01 21:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 | Apr 01 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release Candidate https://t.co/tq6pNUQAJ3 | Apr 01 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 Release Candidate | Techrights | Apr 01 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/djEDDYGD5T | Apr 01 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 01 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/29paZ3x2eK | Apr 01 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 01 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Apr 01 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Tux Machines | Apr 01 21:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE's Plasma 5.7, GNOME 3.20 | Apr 01 21:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's Plasma 5.7, GNOME 3.20 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 21:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201068 | Apr 01 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The TOR Project: “Our Developers Will Quit If Ordered To Backdoor TOR Browser” http://fossbytes.com/tor-project-developers-will-quit-ordered-backdoor-tor-browser/ #tor #anonymity | Apr 01 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com | The TOR Project: "Our Developers Will Quit If Ordered To Backdoor TOR Browser" [ http://ur1.ca/oqass ] | Apr 01 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | The Tor Project releases something called the Tor Browser. They refuse to release a version that is deliberately vulnerable. While you can fork their GPLed code and release a vulnerable version yourself, that does not in any way force the Tor Project to release a vulnerable version. | Apr 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | “You can run a backdoor yourself.” I think you must have been talking about about t a scheme to identify Tor users with techniques other than forcing the Tor Project to release a vulnerable version of the Tor Browser. | Apr 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 21:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 | Apr 01 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Release Candidate https://t.co/tq6pNUQAJ3 | Apr 01 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Apr 01 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 Release Candidate | Techrights | Apr 01 23:15 | |
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| amarsh04 | brb, loading new kernel | Apr 02 03:43 |
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| schestowitz | Re: Microsoft en la EPO: Una Mirada a la Relación | Apr 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz | > I notice that your Spanish translator has added his/her own comment | Apr 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz | > about favouritism towards Gemalto. Good point! | Apr 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz | I mostly know them for the GCHQ/NSA fiasco. | Apr 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205160 | Apr 02 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Duterte (Donald Rump of .ph but without the money) described by supporter as, "we're a sick country, we need a sick leader." No comment. | Apr 02 04:15 | |
| schestowitz | "… mis/un informed voters loves buying the “lesser evil” mantra. =(" | Apr 02 04:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7206963 | Apr 02 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:    | Apr 02 04:15 | |
| schestowitz | "Jua jua >_<" | Apr 02 04:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205625 | Apr 02 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: At the border of #israel and #lebanon there is also #underwater spying but it's not targeting cables but other forms of "threats". | Apr 02 04:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 04:15 |
| schestowitz | There have been many rumors, but I don’t think they are based on facts. | Apr 02 04:15 |
| schestowitz | In 2014 in Gaza it turned out the Hamas used “attack tunnels”. Mind you, that the land in those area (sandy) is ideal for digging tunnels. That led to rumors that the Hezbulla will use th same tactic in the northern front (as like the Hamas, it is not exactly successful in over-ground attacks). However the ground over there lies over bed rocks and digging is a tricky challenge. | Apr 02 04:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 04:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.0.12 brings a couple of fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 02 04:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, | Apr 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PMOD, and more https://t.co/DXr3xZ9BAS | Apr 02 04:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, PMOD, and more | Tux Machines | Apr 02 04:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Apr 02 04:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | An Introduction to Linux Distributions - DZone Performance | Apr 02 04:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Android shortcuts you'll wish you knew all | Apr 02 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | along https://t.co/ptUNpbnGmn (www.cnet.com) | Apr 02 08:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | 5 Android shortcuts you'll wish you knew all along - CNET | Apr 02 08:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 of the best new and updated Android apps from | Apr 02 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | March https://t.co/glANTQf2d4 (thenextweb.com) | Apr 02 08:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | 8 of the best new and updated Android apps from March | Apr 02 08:50 | |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, I have seen your articles. That's what made me think of it. I | Apr 02 09:38 |
| schestowitz | > wondered if there is a collection somewhere online which lists all the | Apr 02 09:38 |
| schestowitz | > MS tricks in one place - a kind of reference library of MS evil, where | Apr 02 09:38 |
| schestowitz | > people can add examples when they come across them. | Apr 02 09:38 |
| schestowitz | An online mate of mine from Scotland had a go at it about 7 years ago and it's still here: | Apr 02 09:38 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Microsoft_Sins | Apr 02 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | List of Microsoft Sins - Techrights | Apr 02 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | Also translated into some other languages at the time. I could think of lots more, but I didn't write and I don't want to edit it. | Apr 02 09:38 |
| cubexyz | Hiring munchkins? :) | Apr 02 09:40 |
| cubexyz | I like my list better | Apr 02 09:41 |
| schestowitz | which is...? | Apr 02 09:43 |
| cubexyz | had to update it :) | Apr 02 09:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt | Apr 02 09:45 |
| cubexyz | XBox was bad on multiple levels, but it's not important | Apr 02 09:45 |
| cubexyz | merely a sideshow | Apr 02 09:46 |
| cubexyz | the main point, I think, is the old "what's ours is ours and what's yours is ours" attitude of M$ | Apr 02 09:46 |
| cubexyz | basically you can sum everything up with "closed source is slavery" | Apr 02 09:47 |
| cubexyz | Gates and Allen were thieves in that they stole computer time from Universities | Apr 02 09:48 |
| cubexyz | but I predict M$ will collapse, all empires fall eventually | Apr 02 09:50 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft isn't the only company that makes shoddy hard-to-fix products | Apr 02 09:52 |
| cubexyz | so there are multiple issues... | Apr 02 09:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: That was a good April fools you had | Apr 02 09:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and you got a Ubuntu device yet :d | Apr 02 09:53 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Apr 02 09:53 |
| cubexyz | if enough people become knowledgeable about Linux/BSD/FOSS and learn to become preservationists and DIYers then M$ is dead | Apr 02 09:59 |
| cubexyz | M$ only survives if people remain stupid | Apr 02 09:59 |
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| MinceR | most people have always been stupid | Apr 02 10:12 |
| MinceR | at least ever since human survival didn't depend on intelligence | Apr 02 10:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/fordham-2016-outstanding-patent-issues.html?showComment=1459585112176#c6154292126109117257 | Apr 02 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Fordham 2016: Outstanding patent issues - the UPC, dual-track systems and Alice v CLS Bank | Apr 02 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | " Sir Robin has in the past pointed out the potential consequences of extending the 9 month time limit for filing an EPO opposition. It seems that the existence of the time limit forces parties to file precautionary EPO oppositions which they might otherwise have chosen to delay. Analogously, the existence of the UPC route would make the precautionary opposition less necessary. Thus the number of opposition cases might drop. " | Apr 02 12:07 |
| MinceR | Sir Robin, from Monty Python & the Holy Grail? | Apr 02 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Florian: | Apr 02 12:26 |
| schestowitz | > You're welcome. I may have more stuff of this kind for you in the coming months. Honestly, I've lost track of the whole EPO mess, but if Battistelli resigns, I'll probably write something about the EPO conflict again. | Apr 02 12:26 |
| schestowitz | You and I should worry more about patent scope at the EPO (and UPC, which related to this) than about Battistelli personally. I think staff increasingly agrees on that too. They're exposed to competing ideologies. Battistelli drove them closer to the EPO's critics. They now see a lot of what's wrong with software patents for instance, not to mention the UPC (the attached PDF criticises it already). | Apr 02 12:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716296654161317888 https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716297613906198529 https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716297764364230657 | Apr 02 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: Some might say Roy is ever so slightly obsessed. If he's read IAM, as he claims, he clearly doesn't understand it 😀 https://t.co/R7vDkLOHps | Apr 02 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Biased IAM’s Editor in Chief Goes on the Offensive Against (Software) Patent Sceptics, Still a Trolls Denialist https://t.co/zm9d17fnkT | Apr 02 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: @schestowitz Also worth noting Roy "forgot" to mention Rackspace's CTO was caught red-handed inventing dodgy patent stats. What a surprise 😀 | Apr 02 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: @schestowitz - did you not understand this one? https://t.co/lqA1q8YGco | Apr 02 12:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.iam-media.com | There is an intellectual dishonesty at the heart of the case for US patent reform that needs to be discussed - Blog - Intellectual Asset Management (IAM) - Maximising IP Value for Business | Apr 02 12:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fair Source, April Fools', Winbuntu review | Apr 02 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1WKsbcbzDU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fair Source, April Fools', Winbuntu review | Tux Machines | Apr 02 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Apr 02 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sPWZfNcDGh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 13:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oqiuz | Apr 02 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Tux Machines | Apr 02 13:05 | |
| cubexyz | the bash stuff was real though, not april fools? | Apr 02 13:34 |
| razielle_tzu | apparently so | Apr 02 13:36 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/phone-wars.jpg | Apr 02 13:41 |
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| MarkBilk | fun and games w microshit: tried to install skype. it wanted an ms acct, w a long difficult password. install failed -- hung. Next time computer woke up it was locked and demanded goddam password! | Apr 02 13:43 |
| MarkBilk | i phoned microshit and they wanted money to help me. yelled and cursed and they put me thru and helped. | Apr 02 13:45 |
| MarkBilk | most of the links/apps on the screen are to get money! | Apr 02 13:47 |
| MarkBilk | anyone who thinks microshit isnt evil should try windows | Apr 02 13:50 |
| cubexyz | how come you're on windows? | Apr 02 13:53 |
| cubexyz | still at the hospital I suppose? | Apr 02 13:53 |
| MarkBilk | yep -- rehab | Apr 02 13:56 |
| MarkBilk | bought a new computer | Apr 02 13:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for | Apr 02 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Apr 02 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zGRvCsZ1wQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 13:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Tux Machines | Apr 02 13:59 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, doing some 3d generation today | Apr 02 15:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/conve-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 15:45 |
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| XRevan86 | * http://maxhost.org/other/cone-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: How do you make typos in your URLs? :) | Apr 02 15:46 |
| cubexyz | extra v | Apr 02 15:47 |
| cubexyz | yeah that is a bit strange | Apr 02 15:47 |
| cubexyz | the filename is correct, but my typing was off | Apr 02 15:47 |
| cubexyz | I think because I type convert a lot | Apr 02 15:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/corrected-cone-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 15:58 |
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| cubexyz | :-/ | Apr 02 15:58 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/correct-cone-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 15:58 |
| cubexyz | vertex data was a bit off too, but now fixed | Apr 02 15:58 |
| cubexyz | so one vertex at the top, one at the bottom, and a 20 sized polygon for the base | Apr 02 16:01 |
| cubexyz | sided :-/ | Apr 02 16:02 |
| cubexyz | came across some really nice pov-ray stuff recently: | Apr 02 16:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pov-ray-gt-city.jpg | Apr 02 16:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/716334109367398401 https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/716335185382473728 | Apr 02 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @schestowitz @csoghoian https://t.co/C5N1GR1ZYR | Apr 02 17:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheCommunitizer/status/716349406727901184 | Apr 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Funny video | Apr 02 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PirateTimes: “Intellectual Property” is not REAL property: This is an opinion article by Óscar which reflects the au... https://t.co/kLxD6bLGqJ #ppint | Apr 02 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @csoghoian @schestowitz https://t.co/JqoJ6v1cWw | Apr 02 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arstechnica: FBI offers crypto assistance to local cops: “We are in this together” https://t.co/JKu5y44g1b by @cfarivar | Apr 02 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheCommunitizer: @schestowitz https://t.co/hylxmwu0OF I ever share these with you? (Im a Fedoran, btw. Know anyone willing to work on alternative IN Fedora?) | Apr 02 17:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | systemD; To Serve Mankind. "It's a Cookbook!" (Dire warning from MarkDude from The Future) - YouTube | Apr 02 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. Interesting. I was thinking of all those annoying little nerdy | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > things, which I'm sure are deliberate, that make it difficult to work | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > without MS Office or Outlook, like the small things which MS Office for | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > Mac can't do, but which most people never discover (like MS Word for Mac | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > can't generate a PDF containing links). Or that Outlook forwards emails | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > by default as .msg attachments. Or that MS Word equation editor, merge | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > fields, line numbering etc aren't compatible with anything else. All | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > those small things that make "sensible" people tell you to stop being a | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > mardy arse and start using Windows. | Apr 02 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > [...] | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | > Skype: | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | ^^^^ | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Or those latest bits of news about Skype on Linux no longer working with certain feature. AFAIK, before the NSAcrosoft took over it, back when it was a European company, Linux was supporting all the core features. Not anymore. | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves Linux. And I love Microsoft. ;-) | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | MarkBilk: I saw you on the big screen | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | 10 Cloverfield Lane | Apr 02 17:10 |
| MarkBilk | schestowitz, haha! what is that about? | Apr 02 17:11 |
| schestowitz | watch it, you might like it | Apr 02 17:13 |
| schestowitz | underwater bunker and stuff | Apr 02 17:14 |
| schestowitz | *underground | Apr 02 17:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for | Apr 02 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Apr 02 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Apr 02 17:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu | Apr 02 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conference, Announced for November | Apr 02 17:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu Conference, Announced for November | Apr 02 17:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Apr 02 17:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years - Phoronix | Apr 02 17:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" | Apr 02 17:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Officially Released https://t.co/TV1k8lKeko | Apr 02 17:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/VGTRxNqQyk | Apr 02 17:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" Officially Released | Apr 02 17:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian 8.4 Released With Security Fixes, Other Package Updates - Phoronix | Apr 02 17:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux | Apr 02 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 17:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 17:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support | Apr 02 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1Lpn21lWB2 (linux.softpedia.com) | Apr 02 17:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 17:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel...' | Apr 02 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane | Apr 02 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proposal" For Linux Development | Apr 02 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane Proposal" For Linux Development - Phoronix | Apr 02 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Student Built An Amazing Steam | Apr 02 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jxGH0GzBxX (fossbytes.com) | Apr 02 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | This Student Built An Amazing Steam Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux | Apr 02 18:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Apr 02 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0sPhnhI1VS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 18:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GarrettCobarr/status/716382873750646784 | Apr 02 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support | Apr 02 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GarrettCobarr: @schestowitz Babbage goes modern, or is this some of kind of miniaturized Steam Punk? | Apr 02 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for Virtual Text Consoles | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane | Apr 02 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proposal" For Linux Development | Apr 02 18:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane Proposal" For Linux Development | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | The most common tactic, employed by the agency for some time now, but they still shoot people as well. | Apr 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7207926 | Apr 02 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "U.S.-backed political movements employ “silent coup” tactics to discredit and remove troublesome leaders" https://consortiumnews.com/2016/03/30/a-silent-coup-for-brazil/ | Apr 02 18:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> consortiumnews.com | A ‘Silent Coup’ for Brazil? – Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/oqld1 ] | Apr 02 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | "The most common tactic, employed by the agency for some time now, but they still shoot people as well." | Apr 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Parliament Approves Contentious Amnesty Law, Potential Reforms to Supreme Court | Apr 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11911 | Apr 02 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venezuelanalysis.com | Parliament Approves Contentious Amnesty Law, Potential Reforms to Supreme Court | venezuelanalysis.com | Apr 02 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Venezuelan Socialist Politician Slain in ‘Vile’ Killing | Apr 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11912 | Apr 02 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venezuelanalysis.com | Venezuelan Socialist Politician Slain in 'Vile' Killing | venezuelanalysis.com | Apr 02 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Not just in South America | Apr 02 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Student Built An Amazing Steam | Apr 02 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/J72O6u6jD2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Student Built An Amazing Steam Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Can Android Learn from its Competition? | Apr 02 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | What Can Android Learn from its Competition? | Apr 02 18:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Video Shows How to Build an Android App | Apr 02 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Your Arduino Project | Apr 02 18:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ycxkpF9u1R (lifehacker.com) | Apr 02 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | This Video Shows How to Build an Android App for Your Arduino Project | Apr 02 18:33 | |
| MarkBilk | ok, stop contaminating this channel with posts about politics dammit! Which is the best up to date non-systemd linux distro now? | Apr 02 18:40 |
| MarkBilk | windows is driving me crazy. and its a short drive. | Apr 02 18:42 |
| cubexyz | slack, openbsd, chromeos | Apr 02 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | MarkBilk: Devuan, Gentoo, Void Linux | Apr 02 18:44 |
| MarkBilk | current slackware - 14.2 - is still in RC1 | Apr 02 18:47 |
| MarkBilk | gentoo is 3/2016 but is source-based | Apr 02 18:49 |
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| MarkBilk | void is rolling but very weird - "builds the software in containers through the use of Linux namespaces, providing isolation of processes and bind mounts (among others)." | Apr 02 18:53 |
| MarkBilk | https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Void_Linux | Apr 02 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Void_Linux ) | Apr 02 18:53 | |
| MinceR | funtoo | Apr 02 18:54 |
| MinceR | again, source-based :> | Apr 02 18:54 |
| MinceR | also, if lack of dependency handling is the only thing putting you off slackware, then salix | Apr 02 18:54 |
| MarkBilk | stable slack is 2013 - too old | Apr 02 18:55 |
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| MarkBilk | salix is "one application per task" so no choice. and no date given | Apr 02 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | MarkBilk: GNU GuixSD :) | Apr 02 19:02 |
| MinceR | i thought salix had all slackware packages | Apr 02 19:02 |
| MinceR | and multiple DEs, even | Apr 02 19:02 |
| MarkBilk | http://salixos.org/ | Apr 02 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-salixos.org | Salix | Apr 02 19:02 | |
| MarkBilk | is salix as old as stable slack - 2013? | Apr 02 19:03 |
| MinceR | probably | Apr 02 19:03 |
| MinceR | though in both cases, pkgsrc probably has newer stuff | Apr 02 19:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Is Source Code covered by the PSI Directive? | Apr 02 19:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Source Code covered by the PSI Directive? | Tux Machines | Apr 02 19:08 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/7EuNm6iTZm | Apr 02 23:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny wireless-rich COM runs Linux on Snapdragon | Mar 27 02:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 820 https://t.co/p2klaBdJgr | Mar 27 02:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny wireless-rich COM runs Linux on Snapdragon 820 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Another OpenGL 4.3 Extension Might Soon Be Done | Mar 27 02:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Radeon Gallium3D https://t.co/d2lA7rwWYa | Mar 27 02:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Another OpenGL 4.3 Extension Might Soon Be Done For Radeon Gallium3D - Phoronix | Mar 27 02:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Albion Online MMORPG major update "Cador" | Mar 27 02:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released https://t.co/4YuixnCHnL | Mar 27 02:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 27 02:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Albion Online MMORPG major update "Cador" released | GamingOnLinux | Mar 27 02:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics, Kernel | Mar 27 02:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics, Kernel | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/7norS5NwiR | Mar 27 02:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Releases https://t.co/lA1Ui2JMtO | Mar 27 02:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Releases | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers https://t.co/HQDFLtKOVV | Mar 27 02:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dr Stoll: Or how I learned to stop worrying and | Mar 27 02:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | love the GPL https://t.co/fdFb12EiHX | Mar 27 02:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dr Stoll: Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the GPL | Tux Machines | Mar 27 02:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines parsix gnu linux 8.10-TEST-0 Release Notes | Mar 27 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YTRNTwBQIa (www.parsix.org) | Mar 27 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.parsix.org | ReleaseNotes810TEST0 – Parsix GNU/Linux - Desktop Linux Operating System | Mar 27 04:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UNIGINE 2.2 released with major new features | Mar 27 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | UNIGINE 2.2 released with major new features | GamingOnLinux | Mar 27 04:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Discord chat app adds an experimental Linux version...' | Mar 27 04:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny wireless-rich COM runs Linux on Snapdragon | Mar 27 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 820 https://t.co/sbSP8ma6ue (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 27 04:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny wireless-rich COM runs Linux on Snapdragon 820 | Mar 27 04:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mesa 11.2 Still Isn't Ready | Mar 27 05:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IMfw8IbCBt (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 27 05:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mesa 11.2 Still Isn't Ready - Phoronix | Mar 27 05:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BUS1 Documentation Published As The New | Mar 27 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alternative To KDBUS https://t.co/kzPVdpUt9Z | Mar 27 05:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | BUS1 Documentation Published As The New Alternative To KDBUS - Phoronix | Mar 27 05:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of | Mar 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Vista 10 the Same Way It Did About Vista | Mar 27 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/m64IqlWy2x (error) | Mar 27 05:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @hugolsqrn favourited 'Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of Vista...' | Mar 27 05:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of Vista 10 the Same Way It Did About Vista | Techrights | Mar 27 05:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Rick4312 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Corporate Media Lies About ‘Market Share’ of Vista...' | Mar 27 05:22 | |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459027972369#c1331405569163354807\ | Mar 27 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times | Mar 27 05:24 | |
| schestowitz | "We are just EPO statistics, created to consume resources and in doing so we produce unreliable facts from reliable figures, because facts are stubborn and statistics are more pliable. Basically the greatest moments are those when you see the result pop up in a graph or in your statistics analysis - that moment you realise you know something no one else does about the EPO’s heartbeat and you get the pleasure of thinking about how to | Mar 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | deceive them." | Mar 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | To put it once more mildly, Max Drei has discredited himself thoroughly. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | Provocation is not what make things move forward. I rather brings in resistance. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | If Max Drei feels happy in behaving like this, than let him wallow in his self satisfaction. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | I am not sure that I would like to see my company be represented by such a "professional" representative. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | Experience also shows that those who are the most vociferous are not necessarily those who get the most respect, simply because they show a total disrespect for other people's opinions. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | You made it perfectly clear, that the only thing you want is a search. Fair enough, but that is not just what makes up the patent system. Have you ever thought of this? If society at large think that is what is needed, then let it be. But before a clear debate should take place. Then I would go as far as to say, that unless there is any kind of litigation, why even bother about drafting claims. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | That reminds me of an old litigation lawyer who repeatedly said that the patent proprietor discovers the scope of his patent, the day he goes to court. Is this really what you want and advocate? | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | For instance, I do not think that a search is what is needed by SMEs. They want and need a thorough search and examination, so that they can be confident to keep an edge over competitors, but also that they are not confronted with unduly broad claims which could at a glance endanger their existence. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | But do you really think that by increasing production and productivity at the rate requested by the top management of EPO, quality, be it for search and examination, will really improve? | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | If you think that, you are not only stupid but as well naive. Another reason not to hire you. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | Unless I am attacked again by Max Drei, I will not say anything more. I think the point of views are quite clear, and dwelling on the topic will not bring matters forward. | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | ' | Mar 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 05:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Rcpp has become the most popular way of | Mar 27 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | enhancing GNU R with C or C++ code." | Mar 27 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/caiEeePvaW (dirk.eddelbuettel.com) | Mar 27 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box | Mar 27 05:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 | Mar 27 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Build https://t.co/YyHlH43Qyn | Mar 27 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/ftzd8Mkvr5 | Mar 27 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/Hfvsauh1MS | Mar 27 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Mar 27 05:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lkml.iu.edu) | Mar 27 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Released - Phoronix | Mar 27 05:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.6-rc1 | Mar 27 05:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MKVToolNix 9.0.0 Open-Source MKV Manipulation Tool Released with...' | Mar 27 05:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC...' | Mar 27 05:44 | |
| amarsh04 | yes, and I still have to use an out-of-tree patch to use the eata kernel module for DPT SCSI hardware 4.6.0-rc1+ #285 SMP PREEMPT | Mar 27 05:49 |
| schestowitz | for 4.6? | Mar 27 05:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/713999676190638080 | Mar 27 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Largest staff union #SUEPO of the European Patent Office #EPO refactored their RSS feed of public pages. Finally. https://t.co/8QMlQRtHKZ | Mar 27 09:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: At long last #suepo changes site design and adds RSS feed https://t.co/wjSHePInPY #epo https://t.co/PVK5ds4eUF | Mar 27 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mIxXV2i7AI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Tux Machines | Mar 27 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OrangeFS Lands In Linux 4.6 Kernel | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FqijLTPAQS (www.phoronix.com) more | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new featrtures https://t.co/eSX8zM2Mms | Mar 27 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OrangeFS Lands In Linux 4.6 Kernel - Phoronix | Mar 27 09:13 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6 Set To Bring A Significant Number Of New Features - Phoronix | Mar 27 09:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz in Datacentres https://t.co/3crW7NK7z8 | Mar 27 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 09:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux in Datacentres | Techrights | Mar 27 09:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @retroDoomer in Datacentres https://t.co/3crW7NK7z8 | Mar 27 10:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @pinguinpatje retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft Wants to...' | Mar 27 10:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MKVToolNix 9.0.0 Open-Source MKV Manipulation Tool Released with...' | Mar 27 11:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/charlesb430/status/714048194557165568 | Mar 27 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@charlesb430: via @schestowitz We've Barely Begun to Tap the Sun’s Mighty Power https://t.co/Esyrm7oIJv #energy | Mar 27 12:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | We've Barely Begun to Tap the Sun’s Mighty Power | Mother Jones | Mar 27 12:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines redhat upgraded https://t.co/bJyrWIaMnw | Mar 27 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.markets.co) | Mar 27 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.markets.co | Red Hat Receives a Buy from Barclays - Markets.co | Mar 27 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines notepadqq – Notepad++ for Ubuntu Linux | Mar 27 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uI6MsvfnzA (www.linuxtechi.com) | Mar 27 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com | Notepadqq - Notepad++ For Ubuntu Linux | Mar 27 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build 20160326 Screenshot | Mar 27 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tour https://t.co/fb6nlN3TS5 | Mar 27 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxscreenshots.org) | Mar 27 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build 20160326 Screenshot Tour | Mar 27 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/714052629077368832 | Mar 27 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: re post-#US #Emancipation 1863 #Confederate plantation owners used #Vagrancy laws & #PrivatePrisons 4 cheap labour. https://t.co/SSMiTBbA6p | Mar 27 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With Nuisance Laws, Has ‘Serve and Protect’ Turned Into ‘Silence and Evict’? https://t.co/szsb1DXCQ2 #police #socialControl | Mar 27 12:37 | |
| schestowitz | " futurist Robert Scoble " | Mar 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Futirust | Mar 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.datamation.com/events/virtual-reality-vs.-augmented-reality-robert-scoble.html | Mar 27 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Virtual Reality vs. Augmented Reality: Robert Scoble - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/oopj8 ] | Mar 27 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introduction to KDE Muon Discover, The Kubuntu | Mar 27 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Center | Mar 27 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jWETwnqaUj (www.ubuntubuzz.com) | Mar 27 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Introduction to KDE Muon Discover, The Kubuntu Software Center | Mar 27 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu Edition tablet will be available for | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pre-order on Monday, March 28" | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yAVO5Gd9aH (www.webupd8.org) | Mar 27 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Available To Pre-Order On Monday ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Mar 27 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 (Linux Based Router OS) Has Been | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/LAHLiu7hnA (linuxg.net) | Mar 27 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | OpenWrt 15.05 (Linux Based Router OS) Has Been Released | LinuxG.net | Mar 27 13:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/714067543556759552 | Mar 27 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: .@schestowitz could it be "torified"? If not it is just another #NSA tool. | Mar 27 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8491 | Mar 27 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Guix - News: GNOME in GuixSD [Savannah] | Mar 27 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dedoimedo on Fedora: https://t.co/C0LHObahRO | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dedoimedo on Fedora: | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Real Computer vs Virtual Computer Performance | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Showdown | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Q6o7VcTCo2 (www.youtube.com) | Mar 27 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Real Computer vs Virtual Computer Performance Showdown - YouTube | Mar 27 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sidewalk man must love debian | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wzxA8cXd8U (imgur.com) | Mar 27 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Sidewalk man must love debian - Imgur | Mar 27 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmpy_awake/status/714070294126833664 | Mar 27 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmpy_awake: #Japan just replaced their Java applet for tax filing with an ActiveX one… 2016 yet ActiveX… #Microsoft https://t.co/OdvTCIR51T | Mar 27 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #japan chooses to be prisoner of #microsoft https://t.co/YUZWBbRMDP like #korea before that. Microsoft still hates the Web. | Mar 27 13:47 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/9X43BaV.jpg | Mar 27 13:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7179029 | Mar 27 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 27 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Twitter, Tumbler, and Facebook should be banned from D* - they already exist everywhere else. Some of us enjoy having a place to go where those things - aren't." | Mar 27 14:07 |
| cubexyz | that's stupid... requiring activex for tax filing | Mar 27 14:08 |
| cubexyz | I've been using ufile through firefox on linux for the last few years (in Canada) | Mar 27 14:09 |
| cubexyz | on the other hand, there's Plamo Linux which is a Japanese slackware distribution | Mar 27 14:13 |
| cubexyz | I try to fixate on the positive | Mar 27 14:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/donkeredagen/status/714078017086234624 | Mar 27 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@donkeredagen: @schestowitz @glynmoody Recent poll shows 25% Dutch dont mind. #flabbergasted. https://t.co/wCdOuVJA4z | Mar 27 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@donkeredagen: @schestowitz @glynmoody Recent poll shows 25% Dutch dont mind. #flabbergasted. https://t.co/wCdOuVJA4z | Mar 27 14:14 | |
| cubexyz | I am a bit surprised to hear that Japan is still windows-centric | Mar 27 14:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-windows-7-does-not-rock.jpg | Mar 27 14:24 |
| schestowitz | https://mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html | Mar 27 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mako.cc | To Fork or Not To Fork: Lessons From Ubuntu and Debian :: Benjamin Mako Hill [ http://ur1.ca/oopsz ] | Mar 27 14:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bhrme/debian_project_leader_elections_2016_why_only_one/ https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_001 | Mar 27 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian Project Leader Elections 2016 - why only one candidate this year? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oopt5 ] | Mar 27 14:29 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | The 2016 Debian Project Leader election [LWN.net] | Mar 27 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Mar 27 14:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Network World | Mar 27 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Tablet Will Be Available To Pre-Order On | Mar 27 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Monday https://t.co/MjkrxT6KWK | Mar 27 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Mar 27 14:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Tablet Will Be Available To Pre-Order On Monday - OMG! Ubuntu! | Mar 27 14:45 | |
| amarsh04 | I've had great help from Japanese kernel developers and a Japanese Debian package maintainer but Linux doesn't seem to be used in their own projects as much (e.g. JAXA, their space agency or their meteorological agency) | Mar 27 14:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Interface Switcher Walkthrough plus | Mar 27 15:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Ubuntu MATE Interface Switcher Walkthrough plus What's New for 16.04 - YouTube | Mar 27 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q: Is Puppylinux 4k Ready? A: Mostly, yes. | Mar 27 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q5sys.sh | Q: Is Puppylinux 4k Ready? A: Mostly, yes. | Mar 27 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714090644835340290 | Mar 27 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz We put a fence around our house built out of glass windows. We're shocked people manage to throw rocks over our fence! | Mar 27 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cooking a Linux Kernel with Distcc | Mar 27 15:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "reduced to about 1/4th on subsequent compiles | Mar 27 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with the use of ccache." | Mar 27 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crankyotaku.com | Cranky Otaku: Cooking a Linux Kernel with Distcc | Mar 27 15:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trying to do normal stuff with SELinux enabled | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | Trying to do normal stuff with SELinux enabled - DevOps Reactions | Mar 27 15:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Multiplayer Streaming with Open Broadcaster | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multiplatform | Multi-stream | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Multiplayer Streaming with Open Broadcaster Multiplatform | Multi-stream - YouTube | Mar 27 15:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android N Preview for Android TV Now Supports | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multiple Accounts and More | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.nashvillechatterclass.com) | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nashvillechatterclass.com | Android N Preview for Android TV Now Supports Multiple Accounts and More | Mar 27 15:23 | |
| schestowitz | > https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-fights-for-mega-millions-in-u-s-appeals-court-160326/ | Mar 27 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | Kim Dotcom Fights For "Mega Millions" in U.S. Appeals Court - TorrentFreak | Mar 27 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz | > Remind me again how his business model was any different than Box or | Mar 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz | > Dropbox or the others? | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Let's assume for a moment that the US isn't just trying to ruin the person for his attitude. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Assume... | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I suppose his reluctance or hands-off approach towards takedowns was the issue, lack of obedience. If privacy of users is honoured, this in inevitable. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Mar 27 15:35 | |
| schestowitz | > == | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > Have a good Easter. I think there will not be much mainstream news | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > published because of the holiday. It probably won't pick up until Wed. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'm catching up with some stuff. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > PS. You were considering looking up Spanish history, perhaps the | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > Reconquista. Has the library or bookstore yielded good material on that? | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I think history (for me) is best left to Wikipedia, with all its flaws. History can be forgotten even if you learn it and there's too much for it to learn anyway... | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | The important thing is the method of retrieving relevant information. | Mar 27 15:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It's time to make Android bloatware disappear: | Mar 27 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | You're Doing It All Wrong | Mar 27 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TTbjm2XJYU (www.cnet.com) | Mar 27 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | It's time to make Android bloatware disappear video - CNET | Mar 27 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/PJAjZTNNws | Mar 27 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/zz8XypY1eR | Mar 27 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Debian and Derivatives | Mar 27 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HIRDU84zIk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/OiPKhRY6C7 | Mar 27 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 27/3/2016: Mageia 6 and Parsix GNU/Linux | Mar 27 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8.10 on Their Way https://t.co/gmd5HCVgaJ | Mar 27 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/3/2016: Mageia 6 and Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 on Their Way | Techrights | Mar 27 16:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459075025270#c7723125156657477680 | Mar 27 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times | Mar 27 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm happy that my comments remind Old Sad of: | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | "....an old litigation lawyer who repeatedly said that the patent proprietor discovers the scope of his patent, the day he goes to court." | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, that is still the reality, however much Old Sad might wish it were not. | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | However, as I also wrote, the White Book of case law from DG3 is the jewel in the crown of European patent law. Not DG1 but DG3 decides what is obvious and what is not. From time to time, decisions of opposition divisions get reversed by a Board of Appeal. But because of the Problem and Solution Approach, and the clarity of DG3 thinking on what is meant by the "disclosure" of a document, this is less likely than in other jurisdictions. Long | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | may that remain so. Would that national courts defer more to the jurisprudence in the White Book and the "Established Caselaw of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO". It would help legal certainty in Europe. | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | But meanwhile, from time to time, national courts do revoke patents upheld by both DG1 and DG3. When advising clients, this then is the reality I have to explain to them. In the end, I'm writing claims that will both cover the infringement and survive all attacks on validity, even after discovery and cross-examination. The claims are no use if they achieve one (of valid and infringed) but not the other. This is the reality, and the squeeze, | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | outside the EPO. | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | The call for "Would that national courts defer more to the jurisprudence in the White Book and the "Established Caselaw of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO". It would help legal certainty in Europe." sounds like a call for stare decisis. | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Something that you claim does not work. | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | The dichotomy in what you post continues without abatement. | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Do you even realize this, or is this more of your "be[ing] provocative"...? | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/714118797892845568 | Mar 27 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jsalsman: @schestowitz cc ^ | Mar 27 16:57 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Upcoming Android Smartphones 2016: Samsung | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Galaxy Note 6, Huawei P9, One Plus 3, Moto X | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2016 And More https://t.co/3wfJNPsTFe | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techtimes.com) | Mar 27 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Upcoming Android Smartphones 2016: Samsung Galaxy Note 6, Huawei P9, One Plus 3, Moto X 2016 And More : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Gaming in GNU/Linux is growing rapidly. So is | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | use of GNU/Linux for creating software." | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HOfAvakoMG (mrpogson.com) | Mar 27 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | TOOS Plummets. GNU/Linux Thrives. | Robert Pogson | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.22 Schedule Published This Week | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fVi6AHZQ9J (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 27 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME 3.22 Schedule Published This Week - Phoronix | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Days to Die alpha 14 released, Linux graphics | Mar 27 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | broken again https://t.co/a6bkOBzkSB | Mar 27 17:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 7 Days to Die alpha 14 released, Linux graphics broken again | GamingOnLinux | Mar 27 17:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android Phone 2016: Know The One Which | Mar 27 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Suits You The Best https://t.co/tOsHxKVUOi | Mar 27 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fossbytes.com) | Mar 27 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | Best Android Phone 2016: Know The One Which Suits You The Best | Mar 27 17:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today and Yesterday in Techrights https://t.co/41cs2N4Z0R' | Mar 27 17:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 27 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/dIc4TF2A6d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 17:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 17:27 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/filmmakers-cry-censorship-after-robert-deniro-boots-anti-vaxx-movie-from-film-festival/ http://www.inquisitr.com/2931612/robert-de-niro-pulls-controversial-anti-vaccination-film-from-tribeca-film-festival-accused-of-censorship-by-director/ | Mar 27 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Filmmakers cry ‘censorship’ after Robert DeNiro boots anti-vaxx movie from film festival [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkv ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inquisitr.com | Robert De Niro Pulls Controversial Anti-Vaccination Film From Tribeca Film Festival, Accused Of Censorship By Director [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkw ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://deadline.com/2016/03/robert-de-niro-vaxxed-tribeca-film-festival-statement-1201726799/ http://fox61.com/2016/03/27/robert-de-niro-defends-festival-screening-of-anti-vaccine-film/ | Mar 27 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deadline.com | De Niro Defends “Personal” Decision To Screen ‘Vaxxed’ At Film Fest | Deadline [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkx ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fox61.com | Robert De Niro defends festival screening of anti-vaccine film | FOX 61 [ http://ur1.ca/ooqky ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | "“My intent in screening this film was to provide an opportunity for conversation around an issue that is deeply personal to me and my family,” De Niro said in a statement. “But after reviewing it over the past few days with the Tribeca Film Festival team and others from the scientific community, we do not believe it contributes to or furthers the discussion I had hoped for.”" | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | "That the film was made by the person blamed by some and credited by others for the anti-vaccine movement makes it propaganda, not documentary film, critics say." | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | quite a dilemma | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | screen stuff that makes people less safe? | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | for the sake of pseudo-science along with free speech? I guess that religious firms are acceptable, so why not this? Maybe quality control... | Mar 27 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/714140649877057536 | Mar 27 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Then why are there isolationist democrats and open-borders autocrats? https://t.co/y9JfvPHJPR | Mar 27 18:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "National isolation is the desire of every dictator: If his subjects never see what a freer society looks like" https://t.co/kue6YlbSs3 | Mar 27 18:56 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:06] <TweetSchestowitz> ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oor0p | Mar 27 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pharmagossip: U.S. Seeks Records of 80,000 Novartis `Sham' Events for Doctors https://t.co/hdlKHiEObx via @business | Mar 27 20:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- (Re-tweeted by glynmoody) | Mar 27 20:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com | U.S. Seeks Records of 80,000 Novartis `Sham' Events for Doctors - Bloomberg Business | Mar 27 20:28 | |
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| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lennart_Poettering&oldid=702614229 | Mar 27 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lennart Poettering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ooraq ] | Mar 27 21:05 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice animal | Mar 27 22:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Nationality Smurf | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Occupation Bloatware generator | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Employer NSA | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Known for Cr@p software | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I see the rest now | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Well, to be fair, his employer works with the NSA | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | and the NSA keeps a close eye on systemd, based on an article highlighted in phoroni | Mar 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/pusickina-lobistica-za-un-u-sredistu-medunarodnog-skandala-908177 | Mar 27 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dnevno.hr | Pusićkina lobistica za UN u središtu međunarodnog skandala | Dnevno.hr | Mar 27 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | new | Mar 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | techrights cited a lot | Mar 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | can anyone here understand croatian? | Mar 27 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 27 22:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/dIc4TF2A6d (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 22:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts | Mar 27 22:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | Do you know someone who is capable of translating the article below into | Mar 27 22:32 |
| schestowitz | English? Semantics matter more than English grammar, Google translations | Mar 27 22:32 |
| schestowitz | can distort the information. | Mar 27 22:32 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459096059791#c3000122554248201365 | Mar 27 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times [ http://ur1.ca/oorzr ] | Mar 27 22:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I must admit that I have only read the last few postings. But what struck me very negatively are the personal attacks on MaxDrei, whereas I cannot see any such personal attacks from him. Not in the last few postings anyway. If he thinks his clients need something, why contradict? May be he has clients with different needs than you have? Also his remark about the decisions of DG3 is not rigid at all. I see it as a call for a more uniform | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | application of the law, so that decisions become more predictable, making the life of a patent agent and the life of the client easier. What is wrong with that? But yes, if you look for some other interpretation, no doubt you'll find it and attacking on the basis of that interpretation is perfectly possible. But is it fair? On top, especially US anon should realise that many posters here do not have English as their mother tongue, or even as | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | their first or second foreign language. I don't know about MaxDrei, but I think reading the postings with a mind willing to understand (as claims are supposedly being read) is a fair and pleasant attitude. Please keep it civil. | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Eposad | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/712362118134239234 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/712361325767348224 | Mar 27 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @bastianbest @MannySchecter Does non-obvious imply some technical problem is solved by technical means? The question needs clarity as ... | Mar 27 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @bastianbest @MannySchecter It might solve a technical problem with the hardware, but no technical problem as a bare method. | Mar 27 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnAlty1/status/710571515348164609 | Mar 27 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnAlty1: @Twpalovi @EPOorg I'm sure it will be. It was read out in open session. Staff reps present. | Mar 27 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robert_fietzke/status/703892056293437441 | Mar 27 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robert_fietzke: Nazi-Plakate vor Flüchtlingsheimen in #Magdeburg: "Wir hängen nicht nur Plakate". Unfassbar! #ltwlsa https://t.co/5BezrzZkmQ | Mar 27 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robert_fietzke: Nazi-Plakate vor Flüchtlingsheimen in #Magdeburg: "Wir hängen nicht nur Plakate". Unfassbar! #ltwlsa https://t.co/5BezrzZkmQ | Mar 27 23:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_11e20127534547cb251b.jpg | Mar 27 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | 'It ain`t the parts of the Bible that I can`t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. | Mar 27 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Mark Twain | Mar 27 23:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxHQ The #Linux Daily is out! | Mar 27 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/V4Fh8xYmW8 (paper.li) Stories via | Mar 27 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @justfabiano @webkaru_linux @FlUxIuS @tuxmachines | Mar 27 23:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The #Linux Daily | Mar 27 23:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of | Mar 27 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Refinements, It's Now Stateless | Mar 27 23:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of Refinements, It's Now Stateless | Tux Machines | Mar 27 23:35 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Mar 27 23:38 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Mar 27 23:38 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 27 23:38 | |
| gde33 | schestowitz: I'm not all that experienced with them but there are some software tools to translate applications. (I vaguely remember Pootle) Usually these have a community of translators. | Mar 28 00:28 |
| schestowitz | gde33: I might have someone around who can help | Mar 28 00:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Good things come to those who wait… Mageia 6 | Mar 28 01:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | Good things come to those who wait… Mageia 6 dev1 is here. | Mageia Blog (English) | Mar 28 01:52 | |
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| schestowitz | “Total control” sounds good until you realize what it actually means: total control. | Mar 28 08:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gurnaik: Use this application quite a lot. https://t.co/BvipDrmzKh | Mar 28 09:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/esmeraldadereth/status/714397454234488832 | Mar 28 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@esmeraldadereth: Interesting analysis: Confrontation & compassion can work together #USelections2016 https://t.co/ePmjtHIeTB | Mar 28 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The gathering storm of white supremacy" https://t.co/fIIEVMWH35 | Mar 28 11:31 | |
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| schestowitz | "Does that mean that they do not add it to their repository?" | Mar 28 11:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | It's Looking Like Debian 9.0 Stretch Won't Support OwnCloud - Phoronix | Mar 28 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | "Looks like Upstream doesn’t do standard release practices." | Mar 28 11:48 |
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| mahydraal_ | hello everyone | Mar 28 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: hi | Mar 28 17:06 |
| mahydraal_ | so what goes on in here? | Mar 28 17:06 |
| mahydraal_ | i just stumbled across this site a bit ago and got curious | Mar 28 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Well, stuff :) | Mar 28 17:15 |
| mahydraal_ | what would that be? | Mar 28 17:34 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Politics, foreign politics, local politics, politics around GNU/Linux | Mar 28 17:35 |
| mahydraal_ | are we the only currently active anons here? | Mar 28 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | that about sums it up :) | Mar 28 17:36 |
| mahydraal_ | where is everybodt? | Mar 28 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Today the channel is kinda quiet yes. Odd. | Mar 28 17:36 |
| mahydraal_ | so what is on everyones mind? | Mar 28 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: It's not a quiet channel generally, so it really is odd :). | Mar 28 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | I have slapping GNOME developers in their faces in my mind | Mar 28 17:38 |
| mahydraal_ | why? | Mar 28 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: They broke themes again. | Mar 28 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | in Gtk 3.20 | Mar 28 17:46 |
| mahydraal_ | seriously? | Mar 28 17:46 |
| MinceR | they still have themes? | Mar 28 17:47 |
| mahydraal_ | how? | Mar 28 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Yep, they did. This time on a major scale. | Mar 28 17:47 |
| MinceR | i thought letting the user have choice was bad :> | Mar 28 17:47 |
| MinceR | gtk has jumped the shark anyway | Mar 28 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | Themes have to be reworked basically from scratch. | Mar 28 17:47 |
| mahydraal_ | leh sigh.... | Mar 28 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | The most memorable part is… | Mar 28 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update | Mar 28 17:49 |
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| XRevan86 | >> Oh NO! they’re breaking themes again! | Mar 28 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | > Which is certainly one way to look at it, but I think it misses the point a little bit – since the effort is actually meant to make life easier for anybody who wants to change the appearance of GTK+ widgets. | Mar 28 17:49 |
| MinceR | (javascript) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fast-nein-the-fast-the-fuhrer#/ | Mar 28 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiegogo.com | Fast Nein: The Fast & The Führer | Indiegogo | Mar 28 17:49 | |
| XRevan86 | xxx: Oh NO! They're censoring the Internet! | Mar 28 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | yyy: Which is certainly one way to look at it, but I think it misses the point a little bit – since the effort is actually meant to make life easier for anybody who wants to publish everything on Internet. | Mar 28 17:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 28 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | s/everything/anything/ | Mar 28 17:51 |
| *XRevan86 never appreciated Pink Floyd – Obscured by Clouds | Mar 28 17:59 | |
| XRevan86 | and it's actually a pretty good album | Mar 28 17:59 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Mar 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | not a single song | Mar 28 18:09 |
| MinceR | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/990/005/721.jpg | Mar 28 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Idiocratia, I see. | Mar 28 18:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/714507445914173442 | Mar 28 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: https://t.co/qw6RhRn8Z3 | Mar 28 18:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | People Sent to Prison After Corruption Charges Over Microsoft Licences in Romanian Schools | Techrights | Mar 28 18:41 | |
| MinceR | idiocracy :> | Mar 28 18:44 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman...' | Mar 28 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @libagar followed @tuxmachines | Mar 28 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel | Mar 28 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OZwwhiEjLd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7NOgQksQLq (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 19:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Investing Options https://t.co/wFlOlD5pBY | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.thestreet.com) | Mar 28 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com | Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other Investing Options - TheStreet | Mar 28 19:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uld76qvgNf (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Calamares team is happy to announce the | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | immediate availability of Calamares 2.2" | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JBPGreoZZY (calamares.io) | Mar 28 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-calamares.io | Calamares 2.2 is out – Calamares – A distribution independent installer framework | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS...' | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman...' | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS...' | Mar 28 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stali distribution smashes assumptions about | Mar 28 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/pPPv7BNqEV | Mar 28 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infoworld.com) | Mar 28 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Stali distribution smashes assumptions about Linux | InfoWorld | Mar 28 19:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/03/possible_govern.html | Mar 28 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Possible Government Demand for WhatsApp Backdoor - Schneier on Security [ http://ur1.ca/ooyr9 ] | Mar 28 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Two Worlds 3 in development, Two Worlds 2 comes | Mar 28 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Linux/SteamOS https://t.co/OikWF6bT3Y | Mar 28 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcgamer.com) | Mar 28 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcgamer.com | Two Worlds 3 in development, Two Worlds 2 comes to Linux/SteamOS - PC Gamer | Mar 28 19:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More BQ Aquaris M10 https://t.co/zdJs6reonV | Mar 28 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More BQ Aquaris M10 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 19:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines VoCore Debut https://t.co/8JshQYmQF7 | Mar 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 19:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VoCore Debut | Tux Machines | Mar 28 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/714526777335537664 | Mar 28 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: #WhatsApp может помочь сервисам Intel "по требованию" расшифровывать защищенный трафик. https://t.co/KfdcZchVUD | Mar 28 19:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WhatsApp can help intel' services with MITM 'on demand' https://t.co/83vB2ldw0i | Mar 28 19:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora's Rawhide Nodebug Kernel Is Now On Linux | Mar 28 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 https://t.co/hRn0SKDROB (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 20:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora's Rawhide Nodebug Kernel Is Now On Linux 4.6 - Phoronix | Mar 28 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The NVIDIA GTX 900 Series Performance On The | Mar 28 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Nouveau Driver | Mar 28 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RMGopCZhoX (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The NVIDIA GTX 900 Series Performance On The Open-Source Nouveau Driver - Phoronix | Mar 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The @linuxfoundation enables remote access to | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | its events https://t.co/VK2WVjfg43 | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) https://t.co/za2cf0XhZo | Mar 28 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Watch Collaboration Summit Live Via Free Streaming Video | Linux.com | Mar 28 20:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Get the Latest on SDN & NFV, Watch the Open Networking Summit 2016 Recap | Linux.com | Mar 28 20:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gunvolt_linux/status/714539997496532993 | Mar 28 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gunvolt_linux: @schestowitz @quix0rquitter GREEN PARTY OR UNAFFILIATED | Mar 28 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/714541084861456384 | Mar 28 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz We might as well rename them Mother Clinton. Old lady Mary Harris Jones is probably spinning in her grave | Mar 28 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | It all happened quite recently, more recently than #MediaMatters getting PAC/Clinton money to become her mouthpiece. #motherjones | Mar 28 20:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7187932 | Mar 28 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DIRNSA (the #nsa Director) in #israel while all journalists are busy having #easter holiday https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714493369259573249 | Mar 28 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @BarakRavid Maybe. DIRNSA isn't SECSTATE: if not multilateral (ceremonial), "discussion" usually means agreements. | Mar 28 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | Pfff… nothing that special about such meetings. | Mar 28 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Also note that Easter is not a holiday in Israel (Passover is, but it will be much later this year). | Mar 28 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 21:15 |
| schestowitz | That's my point | Mar 28 21:15 |
| cubexyz | what's a good replacement for facebook? | Mar 28 21:32 |
| cubexyz | not happy with it | Mar 28 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Alternative for what? | Mar 28 21:34 |
| cubexyz | for facebook... something similar to facebook that doesn't suck | Mar 28 21:34 |
| cubexyz | http://on.rt.com/78e0 | Mar 28 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | Russian chess prodigy wins thrilling Moscow cliffhanger to challenge for world title in NYC — RT Sport | Mar 28 21:34 | |
| cubexyz | I can't even clipboard URLs into fb | Mar 28 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: But being suck is in Facebook's nature now. | Mar 28 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | so if you want something similiar to Facebook, you want it to suck | Mar 28 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | and if you want it to suck but you specify that it has to not suck… | Mar 28 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | then we have a problem | Mar 28 21:36 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: irc :) | Mar 28 21:37 |
| cubexyz | maybe Diaspora? | Mar 28 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Windows | Mar 28 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 Released – Here’s What’s New | Mar 28 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5YlFdP0TjY (linuxscoop.com) | Mar 28 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | KDE Plasma 5.6 Released - Here's What's New - Linux Scoop | Mar 28 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Mar 28 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QlJDt6o9nc (distrowatch.com) | Mar 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | well, there's gnu social too | Mar 28 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Mar 28 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Z1 updated to Tizen 2.4 in India – | Mar 28 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | version Z130HDDU0CPC4 https://t.co/OM53Ako0pM | Mar 28 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 28 21:38 |
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| MinceR | though i have no idea if it can work as well as statusnet used to | Mar 28 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z1 updated to Tizen 2.4 in India - version Z130HDDU0CPC4 - Tizen Experts | Mar 28 21:38 | |
| MinceR | (lightweight web pages, no need for javascript, usable conversation view) | Mar 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | (the instances i've seen recently were all javascript-only wannabe twitter crap) | Mar 28 21:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: joindiaspora changed owners | Mar 28 21:44 |
| schestowitz | and left AWS | Mar 28 21:44 |
| schestowitz | moved to Germany some days ago, it's now a little better | Mar 28 21:44 |
| MinceR | i don't know diaspora well either, i've only seen single posts and comments on them | Mar 28 21:45 |
| MinceR | it also seems to rely on javascript more than statusnet did | Mar 28 21:45 |
| cubexyz | gnu social seems to be a big bloated thing | Mar 28 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's getting cleaned up | Mar 28 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | it already doesn't require JS :) | Mar 28 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | (StatusNet did) | Mar 28 21:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I check it out | Mar 28 21:48 |
| MinceR | nice | Mar 28 21:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @davnerix followed @tuxmachines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android “microG” aims to cut out Google (sort | Mar 28 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of) https://t.co/iLRnLAWe4O (www.slashgear.com) | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android “microG” aims to cut out Google (sort of) - SlashGear | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Linux vendor keeps growing" unlike | Mar 28 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft says a Microsoft-connected site | Mar 28 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKWm4HGBcI (www.fool.com) | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.com | How Red Hat, Inc. Keeps the Good Times Rolling -- Regardless of Sector Headwinds -- The Motley Fool | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/jFfGglnckF | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free Tech Refresher: OSS Isn’t Always FOSS | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Tech Refresher: OSS Isn’t Always FOSS | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle seeks $9.3 billion for Google’s use of | Mar 28 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Java in Android https://t.co/R5Q7ZkbOfl | Mar 28 22:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle seeks $9.3 billion for Google’s use of Java in Android | Tux Machines | Mar 28 22:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big Data https://t.co/8m0tY0cBZr | Mar 28 22:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Big Data | Tux Machines | Mar 28 22:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Fedora Linux Is Looking To Become More Modular...' | Mar 28 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 28/3/2016: BQ Aquaris M10, VoCore | Mar 28 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/ery9YEOCJ3 (techrights.org) | Mar 28 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Mar 28 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2016: BQ Aquaris M10, VoCore | Techrights | Mar 28 22:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/OLkaqVASGg | Mar 28 23:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/OUcqW0kIqB | Mar 28 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/WOUTxvyMH5 | Mar 28 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/vIufPkt1DF | Mar 28 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CarlForrest favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/OLkaqVASGg' | Mar 28 23:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Darkest Dungeon Gothic Roguelike Turn-Based RPG | Mar 28 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Linux Public Beta https://t.co/uodqvYnikb | Mar 28 23:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Darkest Dungeon Gothic Roguelike Turn-Based RPG Gets Linux Public Beta | Mar 28 23:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Just in Time for Hadoop World, @LinuxFoundation | Mar 28 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Delivers on #ODPi https://t.co/O6mm1ef8Ch | Mar 28 23:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Just in Time for Hadoop World, Linux Foundation Delivers on ODPi | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 | Mar 28 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Haswell https://t.co/1Y61iFwaI5 | Mar 28 23:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 Haswell - Phoronix | Mar 28 23:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Just in Time for Hadoop World, Linux Foundation | Mar 28 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Delivers on ODPi https://t.co/4P6OKcZyqd | Mar 28 23:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Just in Time for Hadoop World, Linux Foundation Delivers on ODPi | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:56 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/714587776633741312 | Mar 29 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz The chill effect is a devastating symptom of 21st century internet use! Please never stop blowing the trumpet! <3 | Mar 29 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/714588137486426113 | Mar 29 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: There is no peace in silence for someone else's sake @schestowitz ;) | Mar 29 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | hurt feelings... | Mar 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/714588507822546944 | Mar 29 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @schestowitz <3 | Mar 29 00:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/714592837720006656 | Mar 29 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Ben Jennings on guns at Republican convention @schestowitz https://t.co/mVlJJzvXQz | Mar 29 00:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Ben Jennings on guns at Republican convention – cartoon | Opinion | The Guardian | Mar 29 00:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 | Mar 29 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Haswell https://t.co/5SVWkNpfql | Mar 29 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.6-rc1 Kernel Benchmarks On A Xeon E5 Haswell | Tux Machines | Mar 29 01:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ark, the file archiver and compressor | Mar 29 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | developed by KDE, has seen the addition of | Mar 29 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | several new features" https://t.co/ldBqUZ2Cac | Mar 29 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rthomsen6.wordpress.com | Ark improvements in 16.04 | rthomsen6 | Mar 29 01:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Best Linux desktop Environment | Mar 29 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Best Linux desktop Environment | Tux Machines | Mar 29 01:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why not Arch Linux? https://t.co/4WCc3Cr2qW | Mar 29 01:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Why not Arch Linux? | Mar 29 01:09 | |
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| schestowitz | http://dominickm.com/?p=693 | Mar 29 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominickm.com | Linux Adventure Pt 2: Ubuntu Apps - dominickm.com | Mar 29 01:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7187505 | Mar 29 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Misusing the word #censorship does the debate no favour. If idiots discourage parents from vaccination children, that's harmful. [2/2] | Mar 29 01:42 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Where does that statement about “telling parents not to vaccinate their children” come from? Pointing out this corruption you agreed exists, in addition to coverups and their side effect, i.e. ruining people’s lives, does not mean all medical procedures / pharmaceuticals do not have their place, many of them are however completely not necessary, are overprescribed, diseases misdiagnosed. | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Medical industry - of which pharmaceutical industry is a part - thinks of itself as proverbial sacred cows, to the point that their errors are either covered up, diluted with silly dialectics (of which that statement in quotes above is an example) or outright rejected, until they are forced to admit their criminal actions, like in the statement from William Thompson, posted on his attorney’s site, that I linked to in previous comment. | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | It’s the ingredients in vaccines that cause such dangerous side effects. There is a direct link between those ingredients and autism epidemic, as well as other diseases and deaths. It’s difficult for me to believe that in 21st century, vaccines have to be made with something that can and does have such effects - first step to changing that is realizing what is wrong, not speaking (perhaps unconsciously?) like someone who can be thought | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | of as a useful idiot, sorry. | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Until these things affect you directly, I suppose you can continue with such blanket statements which do not contribute to resolving this situation… | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Everything including food has side effects, but to generalise all vaccinations and warn people about them often leads gullible/impressionable parents to not vaccinate their children at all. This puts at risk all children. | Mar 29 01:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7188960 | Mar 29 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #sanders "82 percent of voters in Alaska [...] 73 percent in Washington State and 71 percent in Hawaii." http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/03/13068/easter-rebellion-three-states-give-bernie-sanders-landslide-victories | Mar 29 01:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Easter Rebellion: Three States Give Bernie Sanders Landslide Victories | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/op267 ] | Mar 29 01:44 | |
| schestowitz | "#FeelTheBernie" | Mar 29 01:44 |
| schestowitz | And Birdie | Mar 29 01:44 |
| MinceR | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12321277_995972043828692_6608373861568947648_n.jpg?oh=cbe87885ee9c7997055a76a8fe83ed6d&oe=577DBE6D | Mar 29 01:49 |
| schestowitz | heh | Mar 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/28/3762742/trump-rhetoric-2/ | Mar 29 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Donald Trump May Sound Like A Clown, But He Is A Rhetoric Pro Like Cicero | ThinkProgress | Mar 29 02:28 | |
| MinceR | Scott Adams has been saying that for months now | Mar 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | "We actually found out when Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders called him out on this exact statement during a debate with Hillary Clinton, saying the New York billionaire should be unelectable because he “thinks that climate change is a hoax, invented by the Chinese.”" | Mar 29 02:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @LinuxTopNews Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft | Mar 29 05:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux in Datacentres | Mar 29 05:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Mopardude5150/status/714630177947459584 | Mar 29 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mopardude5150: Only cowards do this. Go after terrorists with bullets soaked in blood. https://t.co/KChfU0FyRp | Mar 29 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Christians but Arabs, so when dead by suicide bomber it hardly made headlines, unlike in #europe https://t.co/BYgKM8xt4q selective empathy | Mar 29 10:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rafa_linux/status/714696878462517249 | Mar 29 10:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rafa_linux: Installing Linux was never difficult. Anyway, it's good news https://t.co/bNwplOGiUc | Mar 29 10:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Can an 11 year old install Linux https://t.co/DoBtnuh97r yes, not hard anymore. #gnu #linux | Mar 29 10:20 | |
| schestowitz | 15 years ago it was reasonably difficult | Mar 29 10:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DevopsTown/status/714706228295954433 | Mar 29 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DevopsTown: RT @schestowitz: Getting to know the man leading Fedora https://t.co/cKHKMEC2x0 A truly passionate leader. #fedora #redhat | Mar 29 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com | Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Network World | Mar 29 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rafa_linux/status/714745791886307328 | Mar 29 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rafa_linux: @schestowitz Yes, you're right, maybe it was more fun 15 years ago! 😜 | Mar 29 10:32 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LisonHanna: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 https://t.co/qLnuMVyksu @schestowitz #c https://t.co/pVroWb7ZhC | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.artnet.com | Report Details ensorship in 2015 - artnet News | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LisonHanna: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 https://t.co/qLnuMVyksu @schestowitz #c https://t.co/pVroWb7ZhC | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP https://t.co/TetVg5K00z | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> limportant.fr | Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP https://t.co/TetVg5K00z | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: @schestowitz Votre 1er tweet a été sélectionné par L'important https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu | Mar 29 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 16.04 LTS Beta for IBM LinuxONE | Mar 29 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Beta for IBM LinuxONE | Mar 29 10:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/revuedepresse30/status/714751988920094721 | Mar 29 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@revuedepresse30: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/THdqkONy34 https://t.co/AoeD6NrYSB | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> positifvortex.wordpress.com | Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz | Positif Vortex | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@revuedepresse30: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/THdqkONy34 https://t.co/AoeD6NrYSB | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, | Mar 29 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Adds a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 11:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, Adds a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS...' | Mar 29 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189102 | Mar 29 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 11 Outstanding Backup Utilities for Linux Systems http://www.tecmint.com/linux-system-backup-tools/ | Mar 29 11:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tecmint.com | 11 Outstanding Backup Utilities For Linux Systems [ http://ur1.ca/op7ci ] | Mar 29 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Every Linux Backup Ranking List, which doesn’t mention Clonezilla is incomplete." | Mar 29 11:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714762557077266433 | Mar 29 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Compliance is always in the hands of the end user. We don't really need firmware saying, "I'm sorry, Dave." | Mar 29 11:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714766751892955136 | Mar 29 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Before Nixon, American anti-drug movement was driven by racists claiming drugs made non-whites more dangerous. | Mar 29 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crookedgop/status/714767508079820800 | Mar 29 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@crookedgop: @BrianGPowell https://t.co/2rZhBeEDDI | Mar 29 12:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Helping #billgates destroy US public #education system for his selfish domination and profit https://t.co/v1pIh4mpFe https://t.co/VlB48Exg46 | Mar 29 12:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://opensource.com/life/16/3/poll-where-do-you-back-up-your-data | Mar 29 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Where do you back up your data? | Opensource.com | Mar 29 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/714776617969664000 | Mar 29 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The main tenet of free software: user is king. https://t.co/nvrwJXKRmH | Mar 29 12:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their own computing destiny' https://t.co/J39RANu1M8 #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Mar 29 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | free ad http://www.albanydailystar.com/technology/microsoft-corporation-famous-db-solution-mssql-server-arrives-linux-bakersfield-tekno-time-17448.html | Mar 29 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albanydailystar.com | Microsoft Corporation famous DB solution , MSSQL Server arrives Linux - Bakersfield Tekno Time | Mar 29 12:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/714780333644840961 | Mar 29 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: #ZOG #Argentina #TeleSur #Censorship #NWO https://t.co/dswEihNHFU | Mar 29 12:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #argentina stomping on competing ideology https://t.co/4K1pD6jF5b https://t.co/sbm1EDGU7i https://t.co/LzAzULCc97 https://t.co/4WSYKfbkud | Mar 29 12:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their | Mar 29 13:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | own computing destiny' https://t.co/5TROfvNe1S | Mar 29 13:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their own computing destiny' | Network World | Mar 29 13:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Mar 29 13:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Techrights | Mar 29 13:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/xvAzJd0lQ1 | Mar 29 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 29 13:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/X6WIcpSQp1 | Mar 29 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Mar 29 13:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/TM0o0rxmLJ | Mar 29 14:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Mar 29 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/714868745399873536 | Mar 29 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Hmmm maybe we can replace Gene Quinn for the change, can't we? | Mar 29 18:43 | |
| schestowitz | He's very rude, he also blocked me on Twitter. Gene Quinn is an arrogant blowhard, say even people in his circle. | Mar 29 18:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.managingip.com/Article/3541093/UK-design-fees-will-be-cheaper.html | Mar 29 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | UK design fees will be cheaper | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 29 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/714872874297925632 | Mar 29 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz I will put it gentle here, he is a provocateur, no more no less! | Mar 29 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | I hope #patent examiners and judges don't take Gene Quinn seriously. He's like a weapons manufacturer talking about war. | Mar 29 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SanDisk and Red Hat Form Strategic Alliance to | Mar 29 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Deliver High-Performance Flash-based Ceph | Mar 29 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Storage Solutions https://t.co/wqTgoTpx0k | Mar 29 20:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | SanDisk and Red Hat Form Strategic Alliance to Deliver High-Performance Flash-based Ceph Storage Solutions | Business Wire | Mar 29 20:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Expands Android Experiments Focus | Mar 29 20:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, | Mar 29 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights | Mar 29 20:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Mar 29 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Quali Courts DevOps Community with Open Source | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plugins and Libraries https://t.co/WxlAKOd99M | Mar 29 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quali Courts DevOps Community with Open Source Plugins and Libraries | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thoughts on Sailfish OS https://t.co/DFhljULzer | Mar 29 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thoughts on Sailfish OS | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Mar 29 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/714894126504943616 | Mar 29 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz no, "if you're going to use Linux, it in Windows. We don't want you staying from the path we dictate" | Mar 29 20:33 | |
| MinceR | or to avoid the built-in backdoor | Mar 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | s | Mar 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/714899037397389313 | Mar 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | though cancerd helps with that | Mar 29 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz in Belgium the eID software is open source, even though the code involves Java in the browser. | Mar 29 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Mar 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | RE SMS message, I sent the article to several german publishers, including Katja's.... | Mar 29 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Whether they'll cover it or not, we shall wait and see... | Mar 29 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Let nobody tell you that Europe's patent system is dysfunctional. If you want to see something that really is dysfunctional, follow the Link below, and scroll to the comment thread at #15. | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | As the last commenter in that thread observes, at 15.2.1.1.1.1.1, the Patent Office grants patents on ineligible subject matter, and then itself revokes them as ineligible, on demand from a third party: | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/03/federal-circuit-opinion.html#comments | Mar 29 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/03/federal-circuit-opinion.html#comments ) | Mar 29 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | QUOTE^^ | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/714905449154416642 | Mar 29 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: unacceptable discrimination #EPO https://t.co/c4bF7jC3Fn | Mar 29 21:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Scandalous: European Patent Office Serves Only Microsoft Customers With Filing Software https://t.co/2GGqfoUjTN | Mar 29 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | auto data-spaffing https://t.co/gryaxhItYZ | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opghf | Mar 29 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more auto data-spaffing | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux Migrations https://t.co/Bv9n0ifjdJ | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opft1 | Mar 29 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights | Mar 29 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4DRJQw4bjG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgos | Mar 29 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yfVDkC0ott (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgou | Mar 29 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7190789 | Mar 29 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 29 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Ignorance has the potential to shut down a valuable tool for reporters, dissidents, whistleblowers and those who are legitimate and want to be free from the overreach of a government who no longer values the privacy of its citizens. | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Dark Web’s Got a Bad Rep: 7 in 10 People Want It Shut Down, Study Shows #Tor #Privacy #WhistleBlowers | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/2016/03/study-finds-7-10-people-want-dark-web-shut/ | Mar 29 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Dark Web’s Got a Bad Rep: 7 in 10 People Want It Shut Down, Study Shows | WIRED | Mar 29 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the headsup | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189238 | Mar 29 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 29 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | “So a rhetorician could persuade any audience, no matter how intelligent, that he was more of a doctor than a real doctor.” | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | No, only works with dumb people. The dumber the better, even Trump hinted that: | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Donald Trump: ‘I love the poorly educated’ [ http://ur1.ca/opgpj ] | Mar 29 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | their votes count as equal | Mar 29 22:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Yesterday and Today in Techrights https://t.co/yfVDkC0ott' | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 3 hidden shortcuts for typing faster on Android | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1suc8uN6gV (www.computerworld.com) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgre | Mar 29 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | 3 hidden shortcuts for typing faster on Android | Computerworld | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha released! | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1RzGV3plrk (fedoramagazine.org) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cDJ2j6qZCn (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2C80FhIRFQ (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/ ) | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgrf | Mar 29 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Alpha Officially Released, Includes a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released - Phoronix | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux at 25: Q&A With Linus Torvalds | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ux8KaWOemm (spectrum.ieee.org) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1vbChDIqsP (spectrum.ieee.org) | Mar 29 22:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Linux at 25: Q&A With Linus Torvalds - IEEE Spectrum | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Linux at 25: Why It Flourished While Others Fizzled - IEEE Spectrum | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release, | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Small Bug Fixes https://t.co/sP17lGqw2T | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgst | Mar 29 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release, Brings Small Bug Fixes | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L5MLXJA3Ro | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxblog.darkduck.com) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgsu | Mar 29 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thoughts on Sailfish OS https://t.co/zqwAi8eDYt | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (it.toolbox.com) | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgu8 | Mar 29 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Thoughts on Sailfish OS | Mar 29 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hXqE1pzvJM (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 29 22:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny - TechRepublic | Mar 29 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more | Mar 29 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | auto data-spaffing https://t.co/osDwMXaPVu | Mar 29 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Mar 29 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more auto data-spaffing • The Register | Mar 29 22:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FvAW7rTWmn (www.linuxinsider.com) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv1 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marrying open source and the enterprise | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ctksmo9beP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv2 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: Marrying open source and the enterprise | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cvISYrlaYt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv3 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marrying open source and the enterprise | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hJtOmaP2IP (www.zdnet.com) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv4 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: Marrying open source and the enterprise | ZDNet | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CharlotteEstbu1 Your GIFT Matrix of Mind Reality e-book. Grab | Mar 29 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it today. https://t.co/TKIRUVgf52 | Mar 29 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.mindreality.info) #Yoga @tuxmachines | Mar 29 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @edm_stream @mikehesselmial @TayCrossley | Mar 29 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mindreality.info | Mind Reality Secrets | Mar 29 22:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oph0p | Mar 29 22:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Yesterday and Today in Techrights https://t.co/cvISYrlaYt' | Mar 29 22:37 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/8AIk8REl.jpg | Mar 29 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's beatiful because you should rather think it's beatiful, otherwise what he said %) | Mar 29 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | lovely story | Mar 29 23:06 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 23:06 |
| MinceR | and that's what we call "free will" | Mar 29 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: G-d gave you free will to take it away. | Mar 29 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You see people like that IRL. | Mar 29 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | they were made by the image of G-d | Mar 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 29 23:09 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 29 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Mar 29 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 - Beta 4 Released! | Mar 29 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eSP9GCQXmQ (www.openshotvideo.com) | Mar 29 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openshotvideo.com | OpenShot Video Editor | Blog: OpenShot 2.0 - Beta 4 Released! | Mar 29 23:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Audacious 3.7.2 Open-Source Music Player | Mar 29 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released for Linux & Windows with Fixes | Mar 29 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jrt9tIsOGW (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Audacious 3.7.2 Open-Source Music Player Released for Linux & Windows with Fixes | Mar 29 23:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for | Mar 29 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" https://t.co/eHrPpa6l9e | Mar 29 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" | Mar 29 23:26 | |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: oh hi | Mar 29 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | just seen your message | Mar 29 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | seems a bit dead around here wehre's say MinceR | Mar 29 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: He's here. | Mar 29 23:32 |
| MinceR | right behind you. | Mar 29 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtube.com/watch?v=oSXqNqoFMfw | Mar 29 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Trump's Secret Weapon - YouTube | Mar 29 23:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenBSD 5.9 released (early!) | Mar 29 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5BKiVACbkm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 23:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenBSD 5.9 released (early!) | Tux Machines | Mar 29 23:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenShot 2.0 Beta 4 https://t.co/eoTkS98zpH | Mar 29 23:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenShot 2.0 Beta 4 | Tux Machines | Mar 29 23:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for | Mar 29 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" https://t.co/qWHa3D933A | Mar 29 23:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint 17.3 "Rosa" | Tux Machines | Mar 29 23:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon + AMDGPU Performance On Linux 4.6 | Mar 30 00:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Radeon + AMDGPU Performance On Linux 4.6 - Phoronix | Mar 30 00:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Has Power Management Improved With The Updates | Mar 30 00:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | To Fedora 23? https://t.co/Y8l5zHlvQW | Mar 30 00:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Has Power Management Improved With The Updates To Fedora 23? - Phoronix | Mar 30 00:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines darktable 2.0.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor | Mar 30 00:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lands with Support for Fujifilm X70 | Mar 30 00:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FbQ3fqU6bZ (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 00:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | darktable 2.0.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Lands with Support for Fujifilm X70 | Mar 30 00:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Mar 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wGeSQyaxK8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dominant in today's headlines after Easter | Mar 30 00:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: Amazon releases recipe for baking | Mar 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a low-cost Alexa voice assistant | Mar 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gT4P2CKnvm (www.zdnet.com) | Mar 30 00:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi: Amazon releases recipe for baking a low-cost Alexa voice assistant | ZDNet | Mar 30 00:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Linux Announcements | Mar 30 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oD6mOYe1g7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 00:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Linux Announcements | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Open Source Blockchain | Mar 30 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Open Source Blockchain | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Mar 30 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/l6cUXy3Dkm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First ever Ubuntu tablet here soon | Tux Machines | Mar 30 00:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fans of The IT Crowd will love Google's latest | Mar 30 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android easter egg https://t.co/vCyBsY6pe2 | Mar 30 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.express.co.uk) | Mar 30 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Fans of The IT Crowd will love Google's latest Android easter egg | Tech | Life & Style | Daily Express | Mar 30 00:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Galaxy S7 compared to first Android phone, the | Mar 30 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | T-Mobile G1 https://t.co/0fvGvuY1HY | Mar 30 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.slashgear.com) | Mar 30 00:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Galaxy S7 compared to first Android phone, the T-Mobile G1 - SlashGear | Mar 30 00:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Security Summit 2016 – CFP Announced! | Mar 30 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VJvnrLS82i (blog.namei.org) | Mar 30 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0SChpadIbl (lwn.net) | Mar 30 00:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.namei.org | Linux Security Summit 2016 – CFP Announced! | James Morris | Mar 30 00:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Tuesday's security updates [LWN.net] | Mar 30 00:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Game: Doodle Jump for Samsung Z1 and Z3 | Mar 30 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available in Tizen Store | Mar 30 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O9DUUdqEvB (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 30 00:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Game: Doodle Jump for Samsung Z1 and Z3 available in Tizen Store - Tizen Experts | Mar 30 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/714959185889337345 | Mar 30 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @AndroidPolice implicit admission of Microsoft's XPS format failure. cc/@schestowitz | Mar 30 00:47 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714949074672357377 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714949682506702848 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714950189128294402 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714951739280072704 | Mar 30 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi With respect, this is mistaken. 1) Filelocker uploads would be instantly detected: https://t.co/XIQznSsUBL. | Mar 30 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbc.ca | CSE tracks millions of downloads daily: Snowden documents - Canada - CBC News | Mar 30 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi 2) That they're using filelockers for comms -- of which monitoring was public -- underlines how little ISIS learns from news. | Mar 30 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi 3) From personal experience, nothing drew my interest more than encrypted traffic from a known target. It "glows on the wire." | Mar 30 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi 4) Remember: even w encrypted comms, metadata reveals *all* on-net activity. That comms happened? Always yes. Content of? no. | Mar 30 00:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714953206191767552 | Mar 30 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @rcallimachi Appreciate the new details in your reporting. Thanks for sharing. | Mar 30 00:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rixstepnews/status/714962715480039425 | Mar 30 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rixstepnews: @schestowitz Elaborate? @Snowden @wikileaks | Mar 30 00:53 | |
| schestowitz | Look up telesur argentina | Mar 30 00:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Security Summit 2016 – CFP Announced! ...' | Mar 30 00:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Emmabuntus 3 1.03 Educational Linux Distro Is | Mar 30 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Based on Xubuntu 14.04.4 LTS | Mar 30 00:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Emmabuntus 3 1.03 Educational Linux Distro Is Based on Xubuntu 14.04.4 LTS | Mar 30 00:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear watches go chrono-a-chrono with | Mar 30 01:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Android Wear watches go chrono-a-chrono with Apple Watch | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | I don’t trust tim cooke. | Mar 30 01:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189127 | Mar 30 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For its next ad, #apple -- like #microsoft before it -- will tell us it "loves Linux" and a has a boner for FOSS? First #privacy now this... | Mar 30 01:24 | |
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| schestowitz | "I don’t trust tim cooke." | Mar 30 01:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Software Releases https://t.co/zASaQ5rih0 | Mar 30 01:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Releases | Tux Machines | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Security Leftovers https://t.co/59bVMUnmUx | Mar 30 01:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #democracy based on "Democrats" http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/wash_voters_descend_on_superdelegate_who_supports_clinton_20160328 | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truthdig.com | Washingtonians Hound Superdelegate Who Supports Clinton After Constituents Favored Sanders - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/opjnv ] | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | In case someone wonders. | Mar 30 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate | Mar 30 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Superdelegate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/opjnw ] | Mar 30 01:24 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rixstepnews/status/714972986651058177 | Mar 30 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rixstepnews: @schestowitz @Snowden @wikileaks Oh wow. Thx! | Mar 30 01:33 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/BeCGSSFzAh | Mar 30 02:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MediaGoblin 0.9.0: The Three Goblineers | Mar 30 02:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MediaGoblin 0.9.0: The Three Goblineers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FFmpeg 3.0 "Einstein" Free Multimedia Backend | Mar 30 02:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 3.0 "Einstein" Free Multimedia Backend Gets Its First Point Release | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a | Mar 30 02:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a "Hide Zero Values" Option, More | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email service on Android | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/ ) | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Alpha Officially Released, Includes a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released - Phoronix | Mar 30 02:53 | |
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| MarkBilk | I'm back! | Mar 30 06:34 |
| MarkBilk | msb_ | Mar 30 06:34 |
| MarkBilk | leg injured; in rehab; using xchat on <gack> windows | Mar 30 06:38 |
| MarkBilk | anybody here? | Mar 30 06:38 |
| MarkBilk | wow hexchat is great! | Mar 30 06:48 |
| *amarsh04_ is here | Mar 30 06:49 | |
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| amarsh04 | need to restart, back soon | Mar 30 06:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bertboerland/status/715011092016185344 | Mar 30 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bertboerland: 2016. Bug 1 in Ubuntu's issueque has been closed. Yet: https://t.co/tXLiDlwyDx | Mar 30 08:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @petrakramer Scandalous: European Patent Office Serves Only Microsoft Customers With Filing Software https://t.co/2GGqfoUjTN … | Mar 30 08:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715069514602397696 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715069950424166401 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715070180649541632 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/715070350531407872 | Mar 30 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz ... https://t.co/LwUXxQ2Ziq | Mar 30 08:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz ... https://t.co/LwUXxQ2Ziq | Mar 30 08:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz if you mean TeleSur, it ceased being independent media long ago, and began being ChavezTV... or PutinTV depending on the week. | Mar 30 08:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz the first couple of years after its launch was actually quite OK, sort of American PBS but w news segments from every country | Mar 30 08:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: @schestowitz and then one day that arrangement was killed and it began airing from Caracas. That's when the Vz govt party line kicked in... | Mar 30 08:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7193189 | Mar 30 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wonder what it'll take to do to #china secret services what @snowden did to #nsa - they already ban so many comm channels. Paranoia. | Mar 30 08:34 | |
| schestowitz | "US people pretended they were free and Snowden proved than not so there was a “shock”. Most Asian people do not pretend that so there is no need of a Chinese Snowden." | Mar 30 08:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715090790897356805 | Mar 30 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz But some go: "who cares? It's all profits!" Fees, procedures. Cost for some (the inventors) are gains for others you-know-who. | Mar 30 09:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715091623118561280 | Mar 30 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Being the Devil's advocate here, some patent office has behaved as that would be their aim too. | Mar 30 09:32 | |
| schestowitz | China? France? US? | Mar 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715096104644255744 | Mar 30 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Water, water....(well, some fire at US...) | Mar 30 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a "Hide...' | Mar 30 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email | Mar 30 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | service on Android https://t.co/3UgLXeWq5u | Mar 30 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email service on Android - TechRepublic | Mar 30 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9E6fLtJZ5 (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation Ships with GNOME 3.20 and Linux Kernel 4.5 - Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715109556544741376 | Mar 30 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: EEE at its most blatant. https://t.co/KhFKHwh15M | Mar 30 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft wants everyone to use spyware with a keylogger, even #gnu #linux users https://t.co/AlqIcrsRmW see https://t.co/IYnuzxS5H9 | Mar 30 10:37 | |
| cubexyz | just imagine the poor windows noobs with dialup downloading windows 10 in the background | Mar 30 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715115264497553410 | Mar 30 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Actually he does love (Bill) Clinton, or at least the membership fees he pays for Trump's golf club. | Mar 30 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | based on very old photos | Mar 30 10:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715116055023198209 | Mar 30 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Hash Brownie Bill was paying the fee as of 2015. I was reinforcing your point. | Mar 30 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715117151816912896 | Mar 30 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The only lesson History teaches us is that no one learns from her. https://t.co/U1lmVnZWXL | Mar 30 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft does not love Linux. Microsoft does not offer 'gifts' to Linux. Get used to it. Learn history. https://t.co/v9hqRQE5Aq | Mar 30 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines After a nasty computer virus, sys admin looks | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Linux | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2RSLWysJBW (opensource.com) | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Soumya Sarkar | Opensource.com | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Premium Android flip phone Gionee W909 unveiled | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | Premium Android flip phone Gionee W909 unveiled - GSMArena.com news | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beware the Pis of March https://t.co/zjC7LzDOrp | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Beware the Pis of March | FOSS Force | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged ARM module spec targets harsh | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | environments https://t.co/tl7xvttO4h | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged ARM module spec targets harsh environments | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/OOiOZG6NtO | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines F-Droid, Copperhead, Guardian Project partner | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to create a security-focused, Android-based | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | F-Droid, Copperhead, Guardian Project partner to create a security-focused, Android-based ecosystem | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux is 25, Fedora 24 Alpha, Classy Apricity | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is 25, Fedora 24 Alpha, Classy Apricity | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux alternatives to Windows XP | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux alternatives to Windows XP | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/SBmWJ5kfEA | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build, Final | Mar 30 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release Launches April 1, 2016 | Mar 30 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IBN7536wF4 (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build, Final Release Launches April 1, 2016 | Mar 30 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194294 | Mar 30 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: After a nasty computer virus, sys admin looks to Linux https://opensource.com/life/16/3/my-linux-story-soumya-sarkar | Mar 30 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | My Linux Story: Soumya Sarkar | Opensource.com | Mar 30 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | I’m looking for ways to open up people’s eyes. I’m using GNU/Linux since 2003 and I’m loving it. | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I stopped assistance (for friends and family) for windows/osx machines and in stead I offer lifetime guaranty on GNU/Linux. Until now nobody ever complained about the Linux Mint I installed on their machines. | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 11:12 |
| cubexyz | running Mint is hardly ideal | Mar 30 11:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194133 | Mar 30 11:14 |
| schestowitz | "nod. when I realized this, some 6 years ago, I started campaigning for Red Hat to turn its Patent Promise into an actual license, but no luck so far. until this major problem is fixed, no more patent applications from me..." | Mar 30 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When you work on #swpats for a company - no matter how benign a company - you never know who will get/use them? #redhat staff, take note. | Mar 30 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | With or without a promise, why spend one's life pursing patents that shouldn't exist in the first place? #swpats | Mar 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Inc (RHT) Upgraded to “Strong-Buy” by | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vetr Inc. https://t.co/KoQ6cyW574 | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.sfhfm.org) https://t.co/7BYUGGbRYX | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.standardtrib.com) | Mar 30 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfhfm.org | Red Hat Inc (RHT) Upgraded to “Strong-Buy” by Vetr Inc. - South Florida Hedge Fund Managers | Mar 30 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opo4w | Mar 30 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standardtrib.com | How Analysts Rated Red Hat Inc (NYSE:RHT) Last Week? - Standard Tribune | Mar 30 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sMLa14lx1O (mybroadband.co.za) | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HJLbDlLtb5 | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (uk.businessinsider.com) | Mar 30 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mybroadband.co.za | Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 11:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Linus Torvalds on not being a visionary - Business Insider | Mar 30 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest HTC 10 Teaser Says to Expect “Fastest | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Smoothest Android” Yet | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zdn8Zkoz5e (www.droid-life.com) | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opo4y | Mar 30 11:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com | Latest HTC 10 Teaser Says to Expect "Fastest and Smoothest Android" Yet | Droid Life | Mar 30 11:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 | Mar 30 11:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715130586298466304 | Mar 30 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: If you read through this you might begin to get a bit concerned about something... @schestowitz ... https://t.co/JZxkoTMDqL | Mar 30 12:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Drug Enforcement Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Mar 30 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #LVM Internals https://t.co/xy3s2fpOm8 | Mar 30 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mo.morsi.org) | Mar 30 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opoad | Mar 30 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mo.morsi.org | LVM Internals | Morsi dot Org | Mar 30 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/26/inside-netflix-how-reed-hastings-is-building-the-first-global-tv/ | Mar 30 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Inside Netflix: How Reed Hastings is building the first global TV network [ http://ur1.ca/opoau ] | Mar 30 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | Worrisome if anything... | Mar 30 12:11 |
| cubexyz | Mar 30 12:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yQSFqrjfgc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opogf | Mar 30 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Tux Machines | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Document Freedom Day, World Standards Day 2016 | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/66z1ReH72Y (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opogg | Mar 30 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Document Freedom Day, World Standards Day 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opogh | Mar 30 12:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora 24 Alpha | Techrights | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha Screenshot Tour https://t.co/M9E6fLtJZ5' | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation Ships with GNOME 3.20 and Linux Kernel 4.5 - Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build,...' | Mar 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/8x9lOA01s6 | Mar 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/SMNCxoy4gP | Mar 30 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zkIBTgVKq9 | Mar 30 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Mar 30 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5OCOCKxo3D (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opotc | Mar 30 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/EHBJRrGg2h | Mar 30 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opote | Mar 30 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 13:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Mar 30 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opotb | Mar 30 13:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zaurav/status/715164925702893568 | Mar 30 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zaurav: The Imperialists of the digital age. https://t.co/VfkNMCUnE0 | Mar 30 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/bTfL9jFew8 #microsoft #gnu #linux | Mar 30 14:22 | |
| Robert__ | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2452793/sco-vs-ibm-13-year-old-linux-dispute-returns-as-sco-files-new-appeal | Mar 30 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | SCO vs IBM: 13-year-old Linux dispute returns as SCO files new appeal- The Inquirer | Mar 30 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | hi | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | oh, now this again... | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz | see, that's what I said last time they said it was finished... | Mar 30 14:28 |
| cubexyz | SCO is just pissing in the wind | Mar 30 14:28 |
| cubexyz | dismissed with prejudice even | Mar 30 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (techrights.org) | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oppke | Mar 30 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora 24 Alpha | Techrights | Mar 30 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/Ogof2Fbth4 | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oppkf | Mar 30 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? | Techrights | Mar 30 14:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/twitserra/status/715174424983564288 | Mar 30 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@twitserra: good text: https://t.co/50dksNV18t | Mar 30 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonatiuhmira/status/715174761802764288 | Mar 30 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 30 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonatiuhmira: #Microsoft Has Just #Blackmailed #Linux Twice in One Single Week https://t.co/RxJHtlzhuC | Mar 30 15:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/715166356891688960 | Mar 30 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BernieSanders: Too many Americans have seen their lives destroyed because they have criminal records as a result of marijuana use. | Mar 30 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/715192657174249472 | Mar 30 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz No way, they have had minutes of training in what to look for and what to do it they find it. | Mar 30 16:03 | |
| schestowitz | USB keys? | Mar 30 16:03 |
| schestowitz | USB keys? The latest attempt to catch/silence whistleblowers at #epo perhaps? | Mar 30 16:04 |
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| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-privacy-idUSKCN0WV111 | Mar 30 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Global majority backs a ban on 'dark net,' poll says | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/opqa7 ] | Mar 30 16:11 | |
| __martin__ | pre-sequel to | Mar 30 16:11 |
| __martin__ | https://www.rightscon.org/program/ | Mar 30 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rightscon.org | Program - RightsCon Summit Series | Mar 30 16:12 | |
| __martin__ | (= | Mar 30 16:12 |
| schestowitz | hi | Mar 30 16:15 |
| __martin__ | geekings | Mar 30 16:15 |
| schestowitz | yes, heard of it | Mar 30 16:15 |
| __martin__ | schestowitz: atm following up the guardian's live blog on steel crisis in uk, funny how that secretary cancelled australia trip | Mar 30 16:16 |
| __martin__ | from ur diaspora wall I noticed earlier u like some actions of this mr. corbyn | Mar 30 16:16 |
| __martin__ | he's opposition as I understand | Mar 30 16:17 |
| __martin__ | in slovakia I got steelmills some 70km from my residential place, owned by U.S. connections, they had cuts earlier on and four day work week | Mar 30 16:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2016/03/01/sco-over-and-out/ | Mar 30 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If This is (Really) the End of SCO, Don’t Forget Who Funded and Supported SCO’s 13-Year-Long Attacks on Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/opqdg ] | Mar 30 16:19 | |
| amarsh04 | the steel mill about 400 km from here has been under financial pressure also | Mar 30 16:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Danover/status/715196917966196736 | Mar 30 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Danover: @BernieSanders @schestowitz And we'll do it by importing more unemployed. | Mar 30 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even | Mar 30 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/Ogof2Fbth4 | Mar 30 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Mar 30 16:25 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define...' | Mar 30 16:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? | Techrights | Mar 30 16:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KsWM9E2QUA (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines World's first Ubuntu tablet goes up for | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pre-order at £200 https://t.co/FQzoEdXJ0f | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theinquirer.net) https://t.co/dMgPVhOBW3 | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.christianpost.com) | Mar 30 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | World's first Ubuntu tablet goes up for pre-order at £200- The Inquirer | Mar 30 16:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christianpost.com | BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Now Available for Pre-Order, Starting Price at $291.99 | Mar 30 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/715200901447716864 | Mar 30 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@theGuruWithin: .@schestowitz #Bouya! EXCELLENT no content is worth bullshit of ads by force | Mar 30 16:37 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715150625626013697 | Mar 30 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Is there a EU Patent? Esiste un brevetto EU? https://t.co/ezuptHMwrf | Mar 30 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Gibt es ein EU-Patent? https://t.co/9PgEUGmtJq | Mar 30 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | maybe they're shuffling/renaming UPC again... | Mar 30 16:41 |
| schestowitz | I can arrange that with the GIMP ;-) | Mar 30 17:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194226 | Mar 30 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft to #gnu #linux developers: like #ubuntu more than Windows? Try #vista10 for free, stick around later. We'll watch you. | Mar 30 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Why does Microsoft give away their OS for free while we had to pay for it for years? | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | They see it’s more important to have people using their product (for collecting data you need users) than that they actually buy the OS. Google and Apple saw that years ago. | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194310 | Mar 30 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft EEE with #mono inside #debian and #ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/images/1/10/Mono-the-trojan.png so who was right about Mono after all? ;-) Now #microsoft ware | Mar 30 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh no! More free software is available! | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | (Mono has been in Debian and Ubuntu for years) | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | A Microsoft employee put Mono in #debian and #ubuntu | Mar 30 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mcit.gov.cy/mcit/mcit.nsf/dmlcv_en/dmlcv_en?OpenDocument | Mar 30 17:08 |
| schestowitz | "In 2003 he was the first employee hired by Microsoft in Cyprus, entrusted with developing the company’s operations in the country. After five years of rapid growth, his duties expanded to the position of Managing Director for Microsoft Cyprus and Malta, while in November 2011 he was appointed Public Sector Director at Microsoft Central & Eastern Europe, with the mandate of developing the company’s operations in 24 countries. " | Mar 30 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcit.gov.cy | Ministry of Energy, Commerce, Industry and Tourism - Curriculum Vitae [ http://ur1.ca/opr6h ] | Mar 30 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194495 | Mar 30 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Romanians Sent to Prison After Corruption Over Microsoft Licences in Schools https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 #microsoft #corruption #gnu #linux | Mar 30 17:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'soylentnews.org' ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 ) | Mar 30 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | "In Cyprus they are pushing Office365 “for free” in schools. But that’s OK. Microsoft have their own Minister in the President’s cabinet." | Mar 30 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | "It’s quite the same in Croatia: “budget” or no cost licences for students and academia, heavy influence on what gets taught and how at universities and - surprise, surprise - a heavy, many-digit government contract for licences for Win and Office for government machines. Extramadura, München…so close, but so far away…" | Mar 30 17:10 |
| lirodon | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/ eew seriously | Mar 30 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/opr7r ] | Mar 30 17:11 | |
| schestowitz | yeah... | Mar 30 17:11 |
| schestowitz | see bug #1 | Mar 30 17:11 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu's | Mar 30 17:11 |
| lirodon | But what even is the point? You can already run GTK programs on Windows | Mar 30 17:12 |
| lirodon | and QT and so on | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | so it's nothing worth noting | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | publicity stunt mostly | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | and also, there are already tools for this | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | re openssh | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | there was already putty | Mar 30 17:12 |
| lirodon | although people were saying that they're trying to do bash on Windows | Mar 30 17:12 |
| MinceR | they want the windows clone and windows together in one package | Mar 30 17:13 |
| MinceR | in this case, the windows clone that wants to look like macos | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | they want to turn Linux into a "Windows app" | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | for it to stay there | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | and nobody will need to install this "Commie software" | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | just buy Vista 10 | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | or get a machine with it | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | and MS will tell regulators, look, we love Linux... | Mar 30 17:14 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ can move the rest of windows into cancerd | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | heh | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's a Windows project | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | we just don't know it yet ;-p | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | hey, april 1st is coming | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | wannt write some funny thing about it | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | (even short)? | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/715210580089565184 | Mar 30 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: Roy doesn't realise that patent lawyers don't file patents in Europe 😂 https://t.co/phkdb3C1Ii | Mar 30 17:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A lot patent lawyers just want it the easy way; they want to bombard the system with patents (not applications) and not ever face rejection. | Mar 30 17:18 | |
| lirodon | so yes, it's Bash that's the collaboration | Mar 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what gnu devs think of it... | Mar 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | bashdows | Mar 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, ubuntu uses dash | Mar 30 17:19 |
| lirodon | ""Windows is the home for multi-platform developers."" [citation needed] | Mar 30 17:19 |
| MinceR | i have no idea for april fool jokes | Mar 30 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | Multi-platform development: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Update 1, Windows 10. | Mar 30 17:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 17:23 |
| MinceR | supports any platform you want, as long as that platform is winders | Mar 30 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | Supports any platform you want. If it's not Windows, you don't want it. | Mar 30 17:23 |
| schestowitz | lirodon: who wrote that? | Mar 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | MS, Mary Jo Foley, SJVN? | Mar 30 17:24 |
| lirodon | The Verge liveblog of things being said at the keynote | Mar 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | because that's a lie | Mar 30 17:24 |
| lirodon | a MS guy basically | Mar 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | that's like Apple's lie about Open Source credit | Mar 30 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | Are there any details on what bash Microsoft is going to include? | Mar 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | what, PowerHell isn't good enough anymore? | Mar 30 17:27 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: woah woah | Mar 30 17:27 |
| XFaCE | you are saying http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Mar 30 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/oprhb ] | Mar 30 17:28 | |
| XFaCE | Isn't april fools? | Mar 30 17:28 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 30 17:28 |
| MinceR | does winblows also fail at keeping the calendar working and the m$ munchkins at zdnet believe it was already the 1st? | Mar 30 17:29 |
| XFaCE | "With this new addition, Ubuntu users will be able to run Ubuntu simultaneously with Windows. This will not be in a virtual machine, but as an integrated part of Windows 10. " | Mar 30 17:30 |
| XFaCE | For fuck's sake, this has been done BEFORE!! | Mar 30 17:30 |
| XFaCE | andLinux/coLinux | Mar 30 17:30 |
| XFaCE | nothing fucking new | Mar 30 17:30 |
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| MinceR | if it wasn't done before, why would m$ be interested in doing it? | Mar 30 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | I'm wondering because GPLv3 | Mar 30 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | No way Microsoft is gonna put something on GPLv3 into Windows | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | so… what they'll put then? | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XFaCE | Embrace Extend Extinguish | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XFaCE | over and over | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XFaCE | FFS | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | bash 3.x that is on GPLv2+ like Apple does? | Mar 30 17:32 |
| lirodon | Canonical CLAs | Mar 30 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/715214695012106241 https://twitter.com/nileshgr/status/715214756353683457 | Mar 30 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @dinabass @vitali_giuseppe https://t.co/wqUBN9P6Vc | Mar 30 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 30 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nileshgr: @jainrounak https://t.co/BRg0pP7FvG | Mar 30 17:34 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Great, now that Microsoft is allowing ubuntu to run on Windows, I'm awaiting the reciprocation of Windows being ported to Ubuntu | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | ... | Mar 30 17:34 |
| MinceR | that has already begun | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | ... | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | that's what I thought | Mar 30 17:34 |
| MinceR | systemd, kdbus, networkmanager, gnome | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | :P | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: not exactly what I meant :P | Mar 30 17:34 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: I bet Microsoft will be do a few contribs to Wine in good faith | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | hahahaahaahahahahaa | Mar 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | "22 minutes ago | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | Biggest applause line of the day: BASH shell coming to Windows. #Build2016 | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | " | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | It's 2016 guys!! | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | ugh | Mar 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | >$(date +%Y) | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | [17:35] <XFaCE> MinceR: I bet Microsoft will be do a few contribs to Wine in good faith | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | They own mono now | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | and there's a connection to wine | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | IIRC | Mar 30 17:36 |
| MinceR | and they believe they own "linux" | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | they did it 10 years ago | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | the Novell deakl | Mar 30 17:37 |
| MinceR | i ran bash on winblows ages ago, via cygwin | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | in Easter 2007 Novell dumped the docs (just before the long weekend) | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Wine was mentioned | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jaazannos/status/715216424357076992 | Mar 30 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaazannos: @schestowitz yes it is true. Canonical and Microsoft partner to supply choice to developers. | Mar 30 17:38 | |
| schestowitz | ha | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 17:38 |
| schestowitz | choice.... controlled from the Windows side | Mar 30 17:38 |
| schestowitz | not the other way | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | hobson's choice, that is | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | you get a telescreen running our backdoors, or you get no access to computers or the web | Mar 30 17:38 |
| XFaCE | isn't funny, how all this "FOSS" co-operation by Microsoft, always leads back to benefitting their proprietary platforms | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | is current bash GPLv3 or GPLv3+? | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | they use dash | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | (in Ubuntu) | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | if the latter, watch out for m$ donations to FSF | Mar 30 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: GPLv3+ | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | great | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | oh, dear, MS money on FSF table | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | look out for the GPLv4, the new, m$-friendly GPL | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | jgay: don't take it ;-) | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | good thing i never assigned copyrights to FSF | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: dash is used as /bin/sh but not the default shell. | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft will just make their own proprietary bash | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | or used the "or newer" clause | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | BASH.COM | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | sorry | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | bash.exe? | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | Bash.NET | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | nah, they can't make it fit in 64k | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: dash is not really a usable shell. | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | bash.MSI | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: command.com reference | Mar 30 17:40 |
| lirodon | "For over 30 years Windows has welcomed an open ecosystem of hardware and software partners. Nothing changes with the Universal Windows platform." | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | double click, follow the wizard | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | bash.exe, requiring .net | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | they'll need to rename it | Mar 30 17:41 |
| lirodon | "yeah right. It's not an open ecosystem if you have to go through their walled garden first | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | [12:40:46]<lirodon> "For over 30 years Windows has welcomed an open ecosystem of hardware and software partners. Nothing changes with the Universal Windows platform." | Mar 30 17:41 |
| lirodon | it's automatically a closed ecosystem | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | read between the lines as always | Mar 30 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise Operator Deluxe 2016 | Mar 30 17:41 |
| MinceR | hell, even a non-m$ bash won't fit in 64k | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | When Microsoft talks about "portability" and "univeral platforms" | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | they don't mean ease of porting to other operating systems or other languages/libraries | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | they mean ease of porting proprietary Windows to more hardware | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XFaCE | Java is designed to be OS and hardware-agnostic | Mar 30 17:42 |
| MinceR | they mean difficulty of avoiding running or paying for winders | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XFaCE | .NET is only the latter | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XRevan86 | XFaCE: Ease of porting from other operating systems or other languages/libraries | Mar 30 17:42 |
| cubexyz | uhhh, no for 30 years windows has not welcomed an "open ecosystem" | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XFaCE | XRevan86: exactly | Mar 30 17:42 |
| cubexyz | exactly the opposite | Mar 30 17:42 |
| lirodon | http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx some details on that bash thing | Mar 30 17:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hanselman.com | Developers can run Bash Shell and user-mode Ubuntu Linux binaries on Windows 10 - Scott Hanselman [ http://ur1.ca/oprp7 ] | Mar 30 17:43 | |
| XFaCE | Microsoft's platforms are basically parasites | Mar 30 17:43 |
| MinceR | a good fit for m$, who are also parasites | Mar 30 17:43 |
| lirodon | It was open _per se_ because MS didn't regulate how certain styles of programs are packaged/distributed. | Mar 30 17:43 |
| XFaCE | Absorb other projects, and spread | Mar 30 17:43 |
| lirodon | but now they've succumb to the locked down mobile platform fixation which is a problem all its own | Mar 30 17:45 |
| cubexyz | 30 years ago was kind of a mess actually | Mar 30 17:45 |
| cubexyz | Xenix, Desqview dos-extenders, SunOS, etc | Mar 30 17:46 |
| cubexyz | I guess I should also include Amiga in that time period | Mar 30 17:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: The media that are saying, this helps "developers" | Mar 30 17:47 |
| XFaCE | no, this helps WINDOWS developers | Mar 30 17:47 |
| MinceR | no, this helps m$ | Mar 30 17:47 |
| XFaCE | well both | Mar 30 17:47 |
| XFaCE | it helps Windows devs give more flamewar bait as to why they aren't switching to Linux | Mar 30 17:48 |
| XFaCE | Point is, this doesn't help Linux/BSD devs whatsoever | Mar 30 17:48 |
| cubexyz | 30 years ago you still saw some PDP-11, PDP-10 stuff | Mar 30 17:48 |
| XFaCE | yet the new is phrased in a way that suggests it will | Mar 30 17:48 |
| schestowitz | yes, a little more like, look... Vista 10... it has EVERYTHING | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Boss, can I install Linux? | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Boss: sure, install Vista 10 | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | But... | Mar 30 17:53 |
| cubexyz | usually tools that do everything don't any one thing particularly well | Mar 30 17:55 |
| cubexyz | s/don't/don't do/ | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | well, if it has cancerd, it has everything | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | all of it broken, though | Mar 30 17:57 |
| cubexyz | most people I know are avoiding windows 10 | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | yeah, rightly so | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | they hear bad things | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | the harder Microsoft pushes, the more backlash | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | they damage their credibility (what's left of it among some people) | Mar 30 17:58 |
| cubexyz | as I said earlier, for people still on dialup it's hellish :) | Mar 30 17:58 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so I guess they are trying to distract with this shit | Mar 30 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Ignore #microsoft as it throws around misleading and meaningless numbers. The company has done this for decades. Always lying. Because "marketing". | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | is it even possible to damage m$'s credibility with the people they have it with? | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | it's a cult at this point | Mar 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | just like crApple | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | young people | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | they grew up with another kind of media | Mar 30 17:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Remember how MS made a big deal about their contribs to Linux, when in fact the only reason they were so large was because the commits were garbage and had to be fixed over and over? | Mar 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | they do all sorts of horribly evil things and it just makes the cultists love them even more | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | so to them the real antitrust stuff is just history that predated them | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yes, and for PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE AND.... | Mar 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | even so, the hype-v code in linux sucks | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | GPL VIOLATIONS!!! | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hyper-V | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They got caught, then pretended they means to open it all along | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | and funnily enough, the particular bit i remember happens to be incompatible with cancer-d | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | to change history a little | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | s/r-d/rd/ | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hey, maybe hypervisor is next on LP's agenda | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They shall calll it --- TADA --- hyperd | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | cancerd already contains some sort of hypervisor tool | Mar 30 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Red hat is a cancerd that attaches itself... | Mar 30 18:01 |
| XFaCE | what a great deal | Mar 30 18:02 |
| XFaCE | we get the stupid Windows mentalities and flawed practices, they get the actual technology | Mar 30 18:03 |
| cubexyz | when I talk to younger folks I can definitely feel the generation gap | Mar 30 18:03 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: I'VE GOT NOTHING TO HIDE STOP WORRYING | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: you can hear it now | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | "app" this, "app" that | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | even some adults start talking like fools | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | those who "discovered" computing because of their "smart" [sic] phone | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | that would be because most "adults" are fools | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | not all of them | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | I also know kids who are bright | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | it's not an age phenomenon | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | the human species is a horrible mess at this point | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | the greatest threat to its own survival | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | well, see how many vote Trump | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | and half of D's also still vote Clinton | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | which tells you quite a lot | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | either the media hides the alternatives well or the alternatives' messaging isn't effective enough | Mar 30 18:05 |
| cubexyz | do younger people still build their own PCs? I have my doubts | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | we had Tories RE-elected here | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | AFTER all the mess they had done | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: they don't have PCs | Mar 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | they buy consoles | Mar 30 18:06 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: that said, the FPTP voting sucks | Mar 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | with DRM and "cloud" to download from | Mar 30 18:06 |
| XFaCE | and UK still has it | Mar 30 18:06 |
| cubexyz | I'm worried people don't learn the basics: electronics, binary, hexadecimal, boolean logic, etc | Mar 30 18:08 |
| schestowitz | they learn 'apps' | Mar 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | and 'smart' things | Mar 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | and they save their 'docs' (OOXML) on the 'cloud' | Mar 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | and they let the DevOps worry about it | Mar 30 18:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: And they learn "don't worry, just use Windows' SSH client" | Mar 30 18:11 |
| XFaCE | "Windows has everything you need" | Mar 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | should be called SH | Mar 30 18:12 |
| XFaCE | SHit | Mar 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | There's no secure when you have back doors in the OS | Mar 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | NSA just pulls up your private keys | Mar 30 18:12 |
| XFaCE | and keyloggers records the passphrases | Mar 30 18:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, if you're doing to be paranoid you need to talk about BIOS too :) | Mar 30 18:14 |
| cubexyz | s/doing/going/ | Mar 30 18:14 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: what we are seeing is basically the ultimate evolution of Ballmer's ideal of having all FOSS development on top of Windows | Mar 30 18:15 |
| XFaCE | Windows will be the proprietary blackbox that runs all you need | Mar 30 18:15 |
| XFaCE | "need" | Mar 30 18:15 |
| cubexyz | I should point out that's merely one blackbox | Mar 30 18:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: well other blackboxes on top :) | Mar 30 18:15 |
| cubexyz | does your ISP let you run servers? :) | Mar 30 18:16 |
| cubexyz | does your TV provider encrypt everything? | Mar 30 18:17 |
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| XFaCE | :P | Mar 30 18:18 |
| XFaCE | my point is, this is just a continuation of the "Windows is the platform for everything else or else" mentality | Mar 30 18:19 |
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| cubexyz | right, but a swiss army knife with two dozen implements is unwieldy | Mar 30 18:25 |
| MinceR | actually my swiss army knife works better than anything m$ or canonical has ever came up with | Mar 30 18:25 |
| cubexyz | anyway bash is GPL right? so if M$ uses it they have to make the sources available | Mar 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | someone said it had an "or later" clause | Mar 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | so all they need to do is bribe the FSF to make GPLv4 | Mar 30 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If you can't trust Stallman, whom you can? | Mar 30 18:27 |
| MinceR | myself | Mar 30 18:27 |
| cubexyz | people don't really want win10: | Mar 30 18:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt | Mar 30 18:28 |
| cubexyz | you lose too much control over your computer | Mar 30 18:29 |
| XFaCE | well as you said cubexyz , it's all about APPS with these users these days | Mar 30 18:30 |
| cubexyz | I didn't say that but ok :) | Mar 30 18:30 |
| XFaCE | actually managaing updates? that's lame | Mar 30 18:30 |
| XFaCE | paraphrasing then :P | Mar 30 18:30 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: was it you or schestowitz ? | Mar 30 18:31 |
| XFaCE | about youth and apps | Mar 30 18:31 |
| cubexyz | probably schestowitz | Mar 30 18:31 |
| *XFaCE doesn't bother scrolling up | Mar 30 18:31 | |
| XFaCE | fuck that! | Mar 30 18:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Mar 30 18:31 |
| cubexyz | I got a million stories about win10 | Mar 30 18:31 |
| XFaCE | "bu-bu-bu Linux crashes too!!" | Mar 30 18:32 |
| cubexyz | I just said there was a bit of a generation gap (when I talk to younger computer folks) | Mar 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | "...thanks to our buddies at red hat" | Mar 30 18:32 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-yet-another-bug.txt | Mar 30 18:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, last one...... for now :) | Mar 30 18:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Techrights | Mar 30 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715231292045004801 https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715232194432790533 https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715233188994555904 | Mar 30 18:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @extra3 @schestowitz Here's the Erdogan extra3 clip with English subtitles (click onto the icon below to activate the subtitles). | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Original by Nena https://t.co/QB5eRJENbt | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Nena - Irgendwie Irgendwo Irgendwann (Original 1984) - YouTube | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | " Roy, here the English subtitled version. I am really looking forward to the Battistelli version of the clip." | Mar 30 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715234724051042304 | Mar 30 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz and a video ??? | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Puri_sm/status/715236995501416450 | Mar 30 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Puri_sm: Frightening? https://t.co/iqU8ZvrW2a | Mar 30 19:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 19:00 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/hanevel/status/715245516884459520 | Mar 30 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hanevel: @schestowitz Why on Earth would anyone having any knowledge of decent OS-es even consider that possibility? | Mar 30 19:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Mar 30 19:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB (m.phys.org) "the best | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | known example is the Linux operating system." | Mar 30 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | Digikam updated in area51 | Bobulate | Mar 30 19:58 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | KDE.news | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/715251107837190149 | Mar 30 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz The UK hypocrites? How dare you Sir, step outside, we shall settle this with a game of marbles! | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lordbaco retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 19:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux | Mar 30 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev https://t.co/nPgCNdaS5D | Mar 30 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Techrights | Mar 30 20:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev - Phoronix | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza' | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/715215714181902336 | Mar 30 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Even if you don't agree with @evgenymorozov, you should read him. Rare, original thinking. https://t.co/kT3RTjgLhY https://t.co/3WJ0wMl65r | Mar 30 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The state has lost control: tech firms now run western politics | Opinion | The Guardian | Mar 30 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Even if you don't agree with @evgenymorozov, you should read him. Rare, original thinking. https://t.co/kT3RTjgLhY https://t.co/3WJ0wMl65r | Mar 30 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @vincentzimmer favourited 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix followed @tuxmachines | Mar 30 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'Open-source microprocessor https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB "the best known example is...' | Mar 30 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7196018 | Mar 30 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | "“I would love to see everyone pay for our product, and allow us to monetize their details by selling their very keystrokes to the government of our choice.”" | Mar 30 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "i woke up to this news and i was like OK this is going to be one of those bad day." | Mar 30 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "All these open source innovation has made Windows unnecessary and outdated…just like Ballmer is. :)" | Mar 30 20:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7195629 | Mar 30 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know a project is screwed when getting something from its very owner (steering/control) is called "donation" http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/applied-micro-provides-arm-boost-to-opensuse-build-service-for-linux.html | Mar 30 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Dude, ur post are getting better and better." | Mar 30 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.serverwatch.com | Applied Micro Provides ARM Boost to openSUSE Build Service for Linux [ http://ur1.ca/opslb ] | Mar 30 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7195394 | Mar 30 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Congressman Wants To Make Attacking A Cop A Federal 'Hate' Crime https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160328/08115734031/congressman-wants-to-make-attacking-cop-federal-hate-crime.shtml martial law 3.0. | Mar 30 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Honestly, I don’t know what is going to happen to this country." | Mar 30 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Congressman Wants To Make Attacking A Cop A Federal 'Hate' Crime | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/opslm ] | Mar 30 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | See Mexico... | Mar 30 20:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189238 | Mar 30 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese" Donald Rump http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/28/3762742/trump-rhetoric-2/ acting like a Clown | Mar 30 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thinkprogress.org | Donald Trump May Sound Like A Clown, But He Is A Rhetoric Pro Like Cicero | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/opnlk ] | Mar 30 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | I wonder what do people mean with Anarchism but I’m too lazy to read. | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | I’m visiting my house in Redneck Town and anarchy is what it comes to my mind. Here people could virtually do whatever they want. Do you feel like closing a street? Roaming the town blasting the most tasteless music you could find? What about blasting music from your house? Maybe having two or three dogs in a 12 square meters backyard barking day and night? Yes, you can bet you could do it. | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | What about taking public property as if it were yours? Putting fire to your plot of land? Not paying utilities or taxes? Having a blacksmith shop in a residential area? Firing off crackers whenever you like? Howling and screaming any time you feel? Yes, sure you can! | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | I really dislike a corrupt government, but having to choose between that and no government I prefer a lot more the government. I’m yet to see people behaving properly and respectfully, not to mention actually helping the others, without a strong punishing authority. | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Some of these issues are due to overpopulation | Mar 30 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB (m.phys.org) "the best | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @fth_nix known example is the Linux operating system." | Mar 30 20:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 20:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get the Tiny VoCore Mini Linux Computer for | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Just $39 https://t.co/6f5hqIwiLk | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.escapistmagazine.com) | Mar 30 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.escapistmagazine.com | Grab the Tiny VoCore Mini Linux Computer for Just $39 | The Escapist | Mar 30 20:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Click: I hate myself for wanting this | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tiny Android-powered projector from Indiegogo | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dZFhghWM4y (www.theverge.com) | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | First Click: I hate myself for wanting this tiny Android-powered projector from Indiegogo | The Verge | Mar 30 20:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Mar 30 20:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 20:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source microprocessor | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/RnKiXmn522 | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/715258616769548288 | Mar 30 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @KrapulaPhD @patentbuddy @Twpalovi @DavidBrooke_IP https://t.co/pYYqqe4xfD | Mar 30 20:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Journalists should ask #epo (probably its PR 'firewall') two questions:1) why is President's contract secret?2) why are IT contracts secret? | Mar 30 20:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev https://t.co/8L3ZDil0Vt | Mar 30 20:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embrace and Extend? Microsoft Adopts GNU’s Bash | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hwryjgZiGU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embrace and Extend? Microsoft Adopts GNU’s Bash | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/RnKiXmn522 | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Mar 30 21:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ySp0ORj2lR (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 30 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 - Tizen Experts | Mar 30 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC’s new | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship Android smartphone | Mar 30 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC's new flagship Android smartphone | Mar 30 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 https://t.co/VzJ3yTGZfX (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 30 21:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and i.MX6 | Mar 30 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zcx27T0vf9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC’s new | Mar 30 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship Android smartphone | Mar 30 21:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC’s new flagship Android smartphone | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and | Mar 30 21:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 https://t.co/NqcIiAp4UT | Mar 30 21:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and i.MX6 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Mar 30 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FMySQIKA1x (www.bodhilinux.com) | Mar 30 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bodhilinux.com | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Bodhi Linux | Mar 30 22:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've | Mar 30 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ever seen, coming to Linux on April 1st | Mar 30 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hTSxmpNuAs (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 30 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've ever seen, coming to Linux on April 1st | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Alejandro32/status/715285270766051328 | Mar 30 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Alejandro32: How can you have Open Source systems on top of a proprietary & privacy adverse system such as Windows? https://t.co/FqcPV9YLCU" | Mar 30 22:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 22:13 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not exactly sure if Ubuntu on Windows long term will do Windows a lot of good. | Mar 30 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Please remember its lot like IBM failed idea of OS/warp running win16 binaries. | Mar 30 22:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: developers don't want to maintain any extra binaries if they don't have to. If Windows runs Linux and Linux runs Linux exactly why maintain windows binary. | Mar 30 22:19 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: so the question is who is EEE who. | Mar 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what uefi and intel boot guard are for | Mar 30 22:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes those would be in higher EEE risk. | Mar 30 22:23 |
| oiaohm | But remember OS with most of the common applications is the one OEM/ODM are most likely to install. | Mar 30 22:24 |
| MinceR | and m$ has the OEM/ODMs' nuts in a vise | Mar 30 22:24 |
| oiaohm | This is why I see this Ubuntu on Windows as just as big of risk for Microsoft. | Mar 30 22:25 |
| oiaohm | If ubuntu on windows results in less programs being Windows native hello trouble. | Mar 30 22:25 |
| oiaohm | I also note that Microsoft so far is making it a Windows 10 thing thinking that line and other things prove that Windows 7 and earlier could be made do this stuff as well. | Mar 30 22:26 |
| oiaohm | So you could call this desperation to move Windows 10. | Mar 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | desperation to get the backdoors and spyware on as many PCs as possible | Mar 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | and now you can get another NSA backdoor via ubuntu | Mar 30 22:29 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: if it desperation means Microsoft will fail to handle the long term risks correctly. | Mar 30 22:32 |
| MinceR | it might be too late for the human species by then | Mar 30 22:33 |
| oiaohm | Depends who gets on board. | Mar 30 22:34 |
| oiaohm | Just think if valve uses the subsystem. So now Steam OS games run on Windows without having a Windows binary. | Mar 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | and will still be locked to winblows using winblows libraries | Mar 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | just the way m$ would have it | Mar 30 22:35 |
| oiaohm | Remember common arguement for games not being ported to Linux is wine exists. | Mar 30 22:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: elf binaries that Ubuntu on windows is running are totally not modified and still use the normal dependencies. | Mar 30 22:36 |
| MinceR | for now | Mar 30 22:36 |
| oiaohm | xming works on Windows. | Mar 30 22:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've...' | Mar 30 22:37 | |
| MinceR | remember what m$ attempted to do to java | Mar 30 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fY5dhL7VMJ (techrights.org) | Mar 30 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Mar 30 22:37 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note the word attempted. | Mar 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, some of the laws applied to m$ back then | Mar 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | they no longer do | Mar 30 22:37 |
| oiaohm | Extending Java end up microsoft being forced to go and make .Net. | Mar 30 22:37 |
| oiaohm | In fact even before the legal case Microsoft java was not doing to well. | Mar 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was forced to offer winblows versions without ie and wmp? | Mar 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was forced to give users a choice of browser? | Mar 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was fined for abusing their monopoly? | Mar 30 22:39 |
| cubexyz | yes :) | Mar 30 22:40 |
| oiaohm | I remember all that but microsoft EEE extending existing ABI/API has mostly not worked well for them. | Mar 30 22:40 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 attempted extentions in the OS/2 subsystem no application in production ever used. | Mar 30 22:40 |
| MinceR | now m$ doesn't even get a warning for their uefi abuse | Mar 30 22:41 |
| oiaohm | Same happened to most of the Java extension | Mar 30 22:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the means to delete the Platform Key and load your own come out of threat of legal action. | Mar 30 22:41 |
| MinceR | so they got off that lightly | Mar 30 22:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so your statement that Microsoft is not getting warnings is wrong. | Mar 30 22:42 |
| MinceR | and they keep closing the gates | Mar 30 22:42 |
| cubexyz | did the DOJ do nothing about UEFI? | Mar 30 22:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: DOJ did threaten Intel did change things. | Mar 30 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Intel and Microsoft did change things. | Mar 30 22:43 |
| cubexyz | such as? | Mar 30 22:43 |
| cubexyz | seems like racketerring when you think about it | Mar 30 22:44 |
| oiaohm | first UEFI did not include disable secure boot option. DOJ yelled about that so disable secure boot was added. The DOJ yelled about user not being able to set own signing keys so now we have delete platform key option. | Mar 30 22:44 |
| oiaohm | So its not that DOJ has done nothing. | Mar 30 22:45 |
| oiaohm | Just the end result has not been userfriendly. | Mar 30 22:45 |
| cubexyz | ah, so it could have been even worse then | Mar 30 22:46 |
| MinceR | and it will be, too | Mar 30 22:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: DOJ intervention has limited how bad it can get. | Mar 30 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Now we need DOJ to complain that it should be userfriendly process. | Mar 30 22:47 |
| cubexyz | can we complain to the DOJ? | Mar 30 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Not like it going to change much at moment. Intel and others in UEFI are still attempting to design how key can be added in a sane way. | Mar 30 22:49 |
| MinceR | now they're concerned about sanity? | Mar 30 22:51 |
| MinceR | after coming up with the monstrosity known as UEFI? | Mar 30 22:51 |
| MinceR | and locking it into the hardware with "intel boot guard"? | Mar 30 22:51 |
| cubexyz | at least there is chromebooks/boxes | Mar 30 22:51 |
| oiaohm | old BIOS before UEFI was also insane mess of lets add hardware support drivers on end of bios image. | Mar 30 22:52 |
| oiaohm | So this meant take a standard bios image put a patch on the end have in bios rootkit. | Mar 30 22:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes intel boot guard is attempt to block a particular class of infection but I believe they have screwed it up. | Mar 30 22:53 |
| oiaohm | Failure to presume attacker someone manages to steal signing keys. | Mar 30 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/fY5dhL7VMJ (techrights.org) | Mar 30 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Mar 30 22:55 | |
| MinceR | apparently coreboot and libreboot are "infections" | Mar 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | competition is "infection" | Mar 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | this is how antitrust law "works" in the 3rd millennium | Mar 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | this is what usians call a "free market" | Mar 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | stalin would be proud. | Mar 30 22:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: NSA and China and Russia have been doing patches to existing bios images. | Mar 30 22:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not coreboot stuff. | Mar 30 22:57 |
| cubexyz | you can build coreboot images yourself | Mar 30 22:57 |
| cubexyz | no binaries needed | Mar 30 22:57 |
| MinceR | now they won't have to, as uefi appliances locked into winblows will just ship nsa's backdoors | Mar 30 22:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so intel boot guard was attempt to block but remember the stuff is made in countires where government can come and ask for keys. | Mar 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | and will even get mandatory updates to them | Mar 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: intel boot guard locks out coreboot and libreboot but doesn't lock out windows backdoors | Mar 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | thus calling it a security measure is dishonest | Mar 30 22:58 |
| cubexyz | yes, intel boot guard is BS | Mar 30 22:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: security measure always have side-effects. | Mar 30 22:59 |
| oiaohm | Incorrectly designed just cause side-effects with very limited advantages. | Mar 30 22:59 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard what prevents a government or someone pretending to be government to walk up to ODM/OEM and demarding they hand over key so they can bug the crap out of the devices. | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | yay for intel boot guard reserving this right for the usa | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | one of the most abusive governments on the global scale | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | except they also reserve it for intel and m$ | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | then again, there isn't much of a difference between intel/m$ and the puppet government they control | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard design with user settable key(even if total pain todo) good. Intel boot guard current design where key burns into fuses bad as hell. | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Even worse is the fact it fuses. | Mar 30 23:01 |
| cubexyz | time to boycott | Mar 30 23:01 |
| MinceR | intel boot guard with user settable key wouldn't do what intel and m$ want it to do | Mar 30 23:01 |
| MinceR | hence, burned-in key | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | So if a key in device is a few bits away from another key. | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Its possible to make intel boot guard burn out those fuses. | Mar 30 23:02 |
| oiaohm | So making it impossible to install the OEM/ODM firmware. | Mar 30 23:02 |
| oiaohm | Also it added a nice lets brick the laptop by setting key to 1 number | Mar 30 23:03 |
| oiaohm | Burnt in key starts with Arm processes and has historically caused a lot of bricking. | Mar 30 23:04 |
| oiaohm | Then intel goes and copies that. | Mar 30 23:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you could also call Intel Boot Guard keeping up with the Joneses without thinking. Since arm cpu have a option to include firmware fused check key x86 arch has to have one right even that most arm makers are stopping use it due to too much trouble. | Mar 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | arm-based mobile devices being locked down is bad enough | Mar 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | there's no need to fuck pcs up in their image | Mar 30 23:09 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: majority of arm chips in mobile devices are not using a locked down image. | Mar 30 23:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: in the form of fuses. | Mar 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its bootloader. | Mar 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you can swap the bootloader you can load what ever you like. | Mar 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Yes pain factor without knowing how to jtag the device the only way to swap the bootloader is use the bootloader on the arm device. | Mar 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Locked down as per the most common mobile devices don't see you doing intel boot guard. | Mar 30 23:14 |
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| MinceR | also, m$'s campaign of lies about how much they "love" that which they're trying to destroy intensifying | Mar 30 23:21 |
| MarkBilk_ | gack! | Mar 30 23:21 |
| r_schestowitz | 0/ | Mar 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | and of course turrist attacks being used as excuses to ban encryption | Mar 30 23:21 |
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| MarkBilk_ | what aabout systemd? any good distro without it? | Mar 30 23:22 |
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| MinceR | sure | Mar 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | funtoo, slackware | Mar 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | i keep hearing more about void lately | Mar 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | devuan is progressing, though still no beta yet | Mar 30 23:23 |
| MarkBilk_ | is slack 4.2 out yet? | Mar 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | if you mean 14.2, doesn't look like it | Mar 30 23:24 |
| MarkBilk_ | yeah | Mar 30 23:24 |
| cubexyz | Slackware 14.2 RC1 was released on 2016-03-18 | Mar 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | nice | Mar 30 23:24 |
| MarkBilk_ | better than beta | Mar 30 23:25 |
| MarkBilk_ | in rehab for leg injury. hexchat in windows | Mar 30 23:26 |
| MarkBilk_ | US election horrible. will get Rump or Clinton. both psychopaths | Mar 30 23:29 |
| cubexyz | I thought Sanders was catching up? | Mar 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | sandurz isn't much more of a democrat either, see what he said about Snowden | Mar 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | none of the candidates of either arms of the Megacorporate Party are | Mar 30 23:30 |
| MarkBilk_ | don't think he can possibly get enough delegates | Mar 30 23:31 |
| MarkBilk_ | Sanders would still be much better | Mar 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | Interesting question ubuntu on Windows is that systemd on windows. | Mar 30 23:33 |
| MinceR | i guess it depends on whether m$ reimplemented cgroups or not | Mar 30 23:33 |
| cubexyz | that just sounds horrible :-P | Mar 30 23:33 |
| MinceR | that's because it is | Mar 30 23:33 |
| MarkBilk_ | finally got cable net and leaarned some windows - yech! | Mar 30 23:34 |
| cubexyz | so have experienced windows 10 then? | Mar 30 23:35 |
| MarkBilk_ | 8.1 | Mar 30 23:35 |
| MinceR | has it tried to "upgrade" to Backdoors10 yet? :> | Mar 30 23:35 |
| MarkBilk_ | acer 10 ton laptop | Mar 30 23:35 |
| MarkBilk_ | always but i have refused | Mar 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | be careful, there are reports of it doing it without user confirmation | Mar 30 23:36 |
| MarkBilk_ | damn, hexchat is better than konversation! | Mar 30 23:37 |
| cubexyz | in openbsd land we still use xchat :) | Mar 30 23:37 |
| MinceR | kvirc is better than hexchat | Mar 30 23:37 |
| MinceR | irssi is better than kvirc | Mar 30 23:37 |
| cubexyz | what about ksirc? :) | Mar 30 23:38 |
| MarkBilk_ | isn't irssi one line at a time | Mar 30 23:38 |
| MarkBilk_ | ? | Mar 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | i didn't get far with ksirc | Mar 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | what do you mean by "one line at a time"? | Mar 30 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Rick4312 https://t.co/fY5dhL7VMJ (techrights.org) | Mar 30 23:38 |
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| MarkBilk_ | cmdline | Mar 30 23:38 |
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| cubelog_ | nope "_ | Mar 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | it has no multi-line input mode, if you mean that | Mar 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | but you can paste multi-line text into it | Mar 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | if you want to send it all at once | Mar 30 23:39 |
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| MinceR | well, at least as far as i know | Mar 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | i never actually tried to do multi-line input | Mar 30 23:39 |
| MarkBilk_ | anyhow hexchat is fine. shows channels intree at left instead of bunched up at bottom | Mar 30 23:40 |
| cubexyz | konversation was post 3.5.10 I think | Mar 30 23:40 |
| MarkBilk_ | yes, i used one from kde4 | Mar 30 23:41 |
| MarkBilk_ | funtoo is source based. eek | Mar 30 23:44 |
| MinceR | which lets you remove dependencies on poetteringware | Mar 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | i'm setting up a funtoo VM which has no avahi, consolekit, kdbus, networkmanager, packagekit, policykit, pulseaudio, systemd, udisks or upower | Mar 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | and it will do nonroot X without consolekit or systemd | Mar 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | i had to settle for allowing dbus to be installed | Mar 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | since its tentacles are everywhere | Mar 30 23:46 |
| MarkBilk_ | so funtoo defaults to systemd? | Mar 30 23:47 |
| MinceR | no | Mar 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it even supports it | Mar 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | they've patched gnome to remove the dependency on systemd, afaik | Mar 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | though i'm not going to install gnome | Mar 30 23:48 |
| cubexyz | funtoo uses openrc I think? | Mar 30 23:49 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 30 23:49 |
| MarkBilk_ | MinceR, did you have to remove all that stuff | Mar 30 23:51 |
| r_schestowitz | caught up (scrollback) | Mar 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | i added them with a minus to my USE flags to make sure no dependencies on them will appear | Mar 30 23:52 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: wishes of quick recovery to you | Mar 30 23:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I mean recovery from Windows | Mar 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | i also masked them | Mar 30 23:52 |
| r_schestowitz | not the leg ... | Mar 30 23:52 |
| MarkBilk_ | thanks! | Mar 30 23:52 |
| r_schestowitz | naaa, just pulling your leg there | Mar 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | iirc none of them were installed at any point so i didn't have to remove them | Mar 30 23:52 |
| cubexyz | openbsd is a more succinct system in any case... doesn't have any of that stuff Mincer mentioned | Mar 30 23:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I saw you mentioned "Rump" | Mar 30 23:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I guess it's not just me calling him that then... | Mar 30 23:52 |
| MarkBilk_ | yeah | Mar 30 23:52 |
| cubexyz | r_schestowitz, haha cute | Mar 30 23:53 |
| r_schestowitz | I even modify headlines accordingly | Mar 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | drumpf said he wants to punish women who get a fetus aborted | Mar 30 23:53 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe it'll catch on by year's end | Mar 30 23:53 |
| r_schestowitz | He'll have his [ahem] RUMP handed to him | Mar 30 23:53 |
| r_schestowitz | but Sanders, I hope | Mar 30 23:53 |
| cubexyz | in fact with openbsd I can pop right out of X easily | Mar 30 23:53 |
| MarkBilk_ | don't think he can possibly get enough delegates | Mar 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | would be nice if the citizens got a clue and supported the libertarian party or something | Mar 30 23:53 |
| r_schestowitz | If it's him versus the other crazy (Clinton), I won't mind the election, only sob or laugh at the US system... | Mar 30 23:54 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: maybe Green | Mar 30 23:54 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: people are misled into wasted vote | Mar 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | dunno, the greens look very crybully-esque to me | Mar 30 23:54 |
| r_schestowitz | RMS support Stein | Mar 30 23:54 |
| r_schestowitz | and he explained to me, on video, why in the US people vote for 1 of 2 parties | Mar 30 23:54 |
| r_schestowitz | unlike in the UK... | Mar 30 23:54 |
| MinceR | because they think not voting for the Megacorporate Party is a waste of a vote | Mar 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | self-fulfilling prophecy | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | I keep thinking it'll be interesting if: | Mar 30 23:55 |
| cubexyz | does the green party have any representation in the US gov? | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | Sanders 'lost' | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | to 'super' delegates | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and then joined with Greens | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | a lot of his D supporters would then defect to Green | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | and maybe they can become a new force | Mar 30 23:55 |
| MarkBilk_ | r_schestowitz, laugh now. WW3 will get you too! | Mar 30 23:55 |
| r_schestowitz | if they can somehow pull off this commitment | Mar 30 23:56 |
| r_schestowitz | which means fragmenting D and risking a GOP win | Mar 30 23:56 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: I know | Mar 30 23:56 |
| r_schestowitz | that's why I said sob and that's why I do follow US politics | Mar 30 23:56 |
| r_schestowitz | it affects everyone | Mar 30 23:56 |
| r_schestowitz | brb | Mar 30 23:56 |
| cubexyz | I think the Greens have one seat in Canada | Mar 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | canada also has the NDP | Mar 30 23:57 |
| MinceR | beside the tories and the "liberals" | Mar 30 23:57 |
| cubexyz | yes, one seat out of 338 for the greens :) | Mar 30 23:57 |
| r_schestowitz | Green is bigger in the UK | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | Lucas et al | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | but they shrank | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | I know the head of Pirate Party here | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | he lives close to us | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | but PPUK is dying | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | and not even close to any seats anymore | Mar 30 23:58 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DubDelivery/status/715312694287605760 | Mar 31 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DubDelivery: DubMediaMash https://t.co/DymmUHgtwz - top stories by @schestowitz, @FAIRmediawatch | Mar 31 00:01 | |
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| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Australia Really I would say where I live has a few too many political parties. | Mar 31 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of political parties in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/opttn ] | Mar 31 00:02 | |
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| MarkBilk_ | hillary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM | Mar 31 00:10 |
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| r_schestowitz | hi Marius | Mar 31 00:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Guest30739: | Mar 31 00:10 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: he did die | Mar 31 00:11 |
| r_schestowitz | by the "good" terrorists | Mar 31 00:11 |
| Guest30739 | Hi Roy ;) | Mar 31 00:11 |
| r_schestowitz | But she hasn't replicated this "success" against Assad | Mar 31 00:11 |
| Guest30739 | any language restrictions here? | Mar 31 00:11 |
| r_schestowitz | no, all allowed | Mar 31 00:11 |
| MarkBilk_ | she is a psychopath | Mar 31 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Reality there is no such thing as a good terrorist. | Mar 31 00:11 |
| MinceR | not even dead ones? | Mar 31 00:11 |
| oiaohm | There is such thing as a proper freedom fighter. | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | oiaohm: to some, they don't call it that | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | perspective | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | some call drone strikes "drone terrorism" | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | because it scares entire villages | Mar 31 00:12 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways drone strikes are terrorism. | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | they know it's not accurate and anyone could die any time | Mar 31 00:12 |
| MinceR | some say people who pay in cash are terrorists | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | it's called another thing | Mar 31 00:12 |
| r_schestowitz | !google state terorrism | Mar 31 00:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - State terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism | Mar 31 00:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - United States and state terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state_terrorism | Mar 31 00:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bureau of Counterterrorism - US Department of State | http://www.state.gov/j/ct/ | Mar 31 00:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - State Sponsors of Terrorism - US Department of State | http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm | Mar 31 00:12 |
| MarkBilk_ | Assad lives thanks to putin bombing the fuck out of isil | Mar 31 00:12 |
| MinceR | allegedly isil | Mar 31 00:13 |
| r_schestowitz | funny how State Dept. got [3] and [4] above, maybe decent googlebombing efforts | Mar 31 00:13 |
| r_schestowitz | Kurds? | Mar 31 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Please remember russia aircraft bombs hospitals and other things. | Mar 31 00:13 |
| MarkBilk_ | doubt it | Mar 31 00:13 |
| r_schestowitz | same issue US has had | Mar 31 00:13 |
| MinceR | in the eyes of some, russia can do no wrong | Mar 31 00:14 |
| r_schestowitz | I think at least 3 hospitals got hit by the US last year, including one that SA did in Yemen. | Mar 31 00:14 |
| oiaohm | USA and Russa both can be called terrorist due to careless usage of bombs blowing up civilian targets. | Mar 31 00:14 |
| r_schestowitz | but they don't aim at civilians | Mar 31 00:15 |
| r_schestowitz | so depends on one's definition | Mar 31 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Terrorist does not require you to aim. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| r_schestowitz | the question is, what level of certainty do they have about accuracy? | Mar 31 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Just be careless and cause fear. | Mar 31 00:15 |
| r_schestowitz | assassination of leaders is not terrorism | Mar 31 00:15 |
| r_schestowitz | it's homicide or political assassination | Mar 31 00:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Oswald (if it's him) wouldn't be named "terrorist" | Mar 31 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Exactly targeted strikes that cilvians can clearly see is not aimed at them is not terrorism. | Mar 31 00:16 |
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| MarkBilk_ | US supports isil. sends in many thousand "good" head-choppers w SAMs etc & they go right to isil | Mar 31 00:17 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/m8XqkCA | Mar 31 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Mar 31 00:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | pastebin | Mar 31 00:18 |
| r_schestowitz | just put there the 'proof' | Mar 31 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Geneva Convention is clear on the define of terrorism after world war II. Having civilians in fear because you are not being targeted is terrorism by the Convention. | Mar 31 00:19 |
| MinceR | i wonder if anyone cares about the geneva convention anymore | Mar 31 00:19 |
| MarkBilk_ | pentagon HCs were fighting CIA HCs yesterday! | Mar 31 00:19 |
| MarkBilk_ | all to make US voters accept rump or hillary to protect them | Mar 31 00:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: geneva convention are the only official rules of war and it what you can be charged down the track for war crimes under. Those laws have no expire date either is legal in fact to charge someone under Geneva convention 100 years after their death. | Mar 31 00:21 |
| MinceR | sure, but who enforces them, the UN? | Mar 31 00:22 |
| MarkBilk_ | 10,000 people die per day in US. turriists are nothing | Mar 31 00:22 |
| r_schestowitz | cancer a big killer | Mar 31 00:24 |
| r_schestowitz | accidents, and gun-related in the US | Mar 31 00:24 |
| r_schestowitz | not sure what percent are suicides using firearms | Mar 31 00:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: International Criminal Court in the The Hague. USA only will attend as an observer they are not willing to allow them selves to face trial. | Mar 31 00:24 |
| r_schestowitz | or... | Mar 31 00:24 |
| r_schestowitz | MarkBilk_: Windows in hopitals | Mar 31 00:24 |
| r_schestowitz | !google malware in hospital us | Mar 31 00:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Three US hospitals hit by ransomware - BBC News - BBC.com | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35880610 | Mar 31 00:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Hospital Declares 'Internal State of Emergency' After Ransomware ... | https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/03/hospital-declares-internet-state-of-emergency-after-ransomware-infection/ | Mar 31 00:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Three U.S. Hospitals Hit in String of Ransomware Attacks - NBC News | http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/three-u-s-hospitals-hit-string-ransomware-attacks-n544366 | Mar 31 00:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Hospital Falls Victim to Latest Hacker Ransom Attack - US News | http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-18/hospital-falls-victim-to-latest-hacker-ransom-attack | Mar 31 00:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and no one has formally placed a case even that there is a lot of evidence. | Mar 31 00:24 |
| MinceR | Backdoors10 in hospitals | Mar 31 00:25 |
| r_schestowitz | many recent stories along those lines | Mar 31 00:25 |
| r_schestowitz | ask the wife for ransom money to get the husban's x-ray scans.. | Mar 31 00:25 |
| MarkBilk_ | got comcast in here. $114/mo | Mar 31 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is laws against what the USA and Russia have been upto with bombings and no one is spending the time to bring charges. | Mar 31 00:26 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715318855103614976 | Mar 31 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Say no more @schestowitz Microsoft and Ubuntu salesman. Touches end of nose... https://t.co/TqZaVaGU7C | Mar 31 00:26 | |
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| MarkBilk_ | Assad requested putin bombing | Mar 31 00:27 |
| oiaohm | MarkBilk_: bombing is not exactly illegal it what you bomb is the issue. Like blowing up mill bases and tanks legal. | Mar 31 00:27 |
| oiaohm | MarkBilk_: hitting a hospital with the official un sign-age on the roof is illegal. Those building you are meant to take with foot soliders. | Mar 31 00:28 |
| MarkBilk_ | and lines of hundreds of trucks taking stolen oil to sell in turkey | Mar 31 00:28 |
| MarkBilk_ | sure\ | Mar 31 00:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so, nobody cares about the geneva conventions anymore | Mar 31 00:29 |
| oiaohm | That would be classed as blocking supply lines offically part of war and legal as shockwave warning is provided. | Mar 31 00:29 |
| oiaohm | MarkBilk_: basically fly pass then blow the crud out the trucks to give the civilians a chance to get clear. | Mar 31 00:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: every year under the genveva conventions a few people get put to death. | Mar 31 00:31 |
| MarkBilk_ | excellent! | Mar 31 00:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so its not nobody cares. | Mar 31 00:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: genveva conventions only work if charges are in fact brought. | Mar 31 00:31 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: apparently the usa and russia don't care | Mar 31 00:31 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DJMu3L/status/715319720216567808 | Mar 31 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DJMu3L: @schestowitz Ah apologies... I did not know you were being critical! | Mar 31 00:32 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: russia has themselves executed commanders over carelessness due to breaching genveva conventions when the death count is higher than 20. | Mar 31 00:32 |
| MinceR | when? | Mar 31 00:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: USA don't care. | Mar 31 00:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: War in Donbass 2014 command got executed for bombing a civilian shelter. | Mar 31 00:34 |
| oiaohm | opps command/commander | Mar 31 00:35 |
| MinceR | what was he doing there? | Mar 31 00:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Russia vs Ukraine general war between soliders. | Mar 31 00:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically commander was there doing general warfare and screwed up. | Mar 31 00:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: russia solider if you screw up you hope the effected number of civilians is less than 20. | Mar 31 00:37 |
| MinceR | so much for the tale of non-russian forces | Mar 31 00:38 |
| oiaohm | Ukraine more strictly obey the convention. Any civilian harm by their forces risk lose of rank at a min. Death Civilian by anything other than bad luck(ie they did everything to avoid it and it happened anyhow) is death. | Mar 31 00:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically it depends on the mil force how strictly they obey the convention. | Mar 31 00:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TwvaUuqypQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu0q | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Remaiten Linux bot combines malware features to | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | target weak credentials https://t.co/rvMX8LSsZU | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.scmagazine.com) https://t.co/ivcn5bqIMY | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu0r | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black GNOME Linux 16.04 Beta 2 Released, Based | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS Beta 2 | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/P4WXCwe0Ya (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 31 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu0t | Mar 31 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Remaiten Linux bot combines malware features to target weak credentials - SC Magazine | Mar 31 00:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Infosec miscreants are peddling malware that will KO your router • The Register | Mar 31 00:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black GNOME Linux 16.04 Beta 2 Released, Based on Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS Beta 2 | Mar 31 00:41 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: north Korea, china and russia obey the convention more than the USA does. | Mar 31 00:42 |
| r_schestowitz | #microsoft loves Linux, in pictures http://d1bghp9m77ju8l.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Marrying-for-Money.jpg | Mar 31 00:42 |
| MarkBilk_ | ick! | Mar 31 00:43 |
| MinceR | ick indeed | Mar 31 00:43 |
| oiaohm | https://opentoonz.github.io/e/ this is interesting. | Mar 31 00:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opentoonz.github.io | OpenToonz | Mar 31 00:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embrace and Extend: Microsoft and Bash | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PrcTErLW88 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu1u | Mar 31 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embrace and Extend: Microsoft and Bash | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black GNOME Linux 16.04 Beta 2 Released, Based | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS Beta 2 | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5pJYhOyCji (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu1v | Mar 31 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black GNOME Linux 16.04 Beta 2 Released, Based on Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS Beta 2 | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embrace and Extend: Microsoft and Bash | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/K0e0qrPsPt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu1x | Mar 31 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embrace and Extend: Microsoft and Bash | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu tablets https://t.co/wsN1lnIZY0 | Mar 31 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu23 | Mar 31 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu tablets | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/E330SnULc6 | Mar 31 00:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu24 | Mar 31 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Foundation and Linux Announcements | Mar 31 00:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jsJsBxK2jm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 00:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opu25 | Mar 31 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Linux Announcements | Tux Machines | Mar 31 00:48 | |
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| Guest30739 | I know I'm late to the party, but what the fuck is Canonical doing? | Mar 31 01:09 |
| r_schestowitz | making money | Mar 31 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft has money | Mar 31 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Canonical -- not as much... | Mar 31 01:10 |
| Guest30739 | did M$ brainwashed them? | Mar 31 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | This reminds me of Novell in 2006 | Mar 31 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | or even in 2005 | Mar 31 01:10 |
| r_schestowitz | M$=Mark $huttleworth? | Mar 31 01:11 |
| Guest30739 | money for what? | Mar 31 01:11 |
| Guest30739 | is shuttleworthless penniless? | Mar 31 01:11 |
| Guest30739 | "M$=Mark $huttleworth" good one :D | Mar 31 01:12 |
| MinceR | Guest30739: selling out | Mar 31 01:14 |
| Guest30739 | ...and it looks like more and more employees are leaving | Mar 31 01:15 |
| Guest30739 | look at Edubuntu... gone | Mar 31 01:16 |
| Guest30739 | Kubuntu... gone | Mar 31 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | edubuntu also? | Mar 31 01:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I guess I haven't heard of it in a while | Mar 31 01:17 |
| Guest30739 | yup | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | educationwashing | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | part of the Shuttleworth modus | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | paining himself as educating africans | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | he has a whole foundation around that | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | and it's dodgy | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | I wrote some articles about it in the past, based on sources close to it | Mar 31 01:17 |
| r_schestowitz | well, not they have engineers at MS | Mar 31 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | and Microsoft sponsors them, they say... | Mar 31 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | so it's good for them in a sense | Mar 31 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | damaging for the rest of us | Mar 31 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | divide and rule is something MS did with Novell beforehand | Mar 31 01:18 |
| MinceR | i guess all their other plans for generating profits failed | Mar 31 01:18 |
| r_schestowitz | "Intellectual Propety peace of mind" | Mar 31 01:19 |
| r_schestowitz | "good linux" vs "bad linux" (pirate) | Mar 31 01:19 |
| Guest30739 | they didn't even have the money to buy a ticket at the MS conference | Mar 31 01:20 |
| Guest30739 | that says a lot! | Mar 31 01:20 |
| r_schestowitz | don't think it's that | Mar 31 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | but one of them said MS paid for it | Mar 31 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | which I think shows how Microsoft throws its money around to get its way | Mar 31 01:26 |
| r_schestowitz | !google microsoft romania bribe | Mar 31 01:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft licensing corruption scandal - Wikipedia, the free ... | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_licensing_corruption_scandal | Mar 31 01:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Romanian political class rocked by Microsoft bribe scandal | https://euobserver.com/political/125868 | Mar 31 01:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - U.S. Probes Microsoft, Partners Over Bribery Claims - WSJ | http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324392804578361971662214256 | Mar 31 01:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Archives - FCPA Professor | http://fcpaprofessor.com/category/microsoft/ | Mar 31 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | no update re [3] yet? | Mar 31 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | They never came out with an outcome | Mar 31 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | as though Microsoft extinguished this | Mar 31 01:27 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe bribed the investigators too ;-) | Mar 31 01:27 |
| Guest30739 | in Romania everything is possible... no one cares about anything | Mar 31 01:29 |
| Guest30739 | home of piracy ;-) | Mar 31 01:30 |
| r_schestowitz | not piracy | Mar 31 01:30 |
| r_schestowitz | !google prime minister piracy microsoft | Mar 31 01:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Here's Why Microsoft Is Giving Pirates the Next Windows for Free ... | http://time.com/3749434/microsoft-windows-10-pirates-free/ | Mar 31 01:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Strong Industry Partnerships Can Address the Evolving Software ... | http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2013/04/24/strong-industry-partnerships-can-address-the-evolving-software-piracy-landscape/ | Mar 31 01:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Russia Uses Microsoft to Suppress Dissent - The New York Times | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html | Mar 31 01:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Russia embraces free software, a huge blow to Microsoft | http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-embraces-free-software-huge-blow-microsoft-252025 | Mar 31 01:30 |
| r_schestowitz | he foolishly used the words of Microsoft | Mar 31 01:31 |
| r_schestowitz | and treated Bill Gates like a hero rather than a bandit | Mar 31 01:31 |
| r_schestowitz | around 2008 | Mar 31 01:31 |
| Guest30739 | piracy is promoted on TV in Romania... so... | Mar 31 01:33 |
| r_schestowitz | they should promote gnu/linux | Mar 31 01:34 |
| r_schestowitz | would create jobs too, all over europe there's demand for such skills | Mar 31 01:34 |
| Guest30739 | very true. yeah they should, but everyone is using pirated vista =)) | Mar 31 01:36 |
| Guest30739 | no kidding | Mar 31 01:36 |
| r_schestowitz | By Mary Branscombe | Mar 31 01:36 |
| r_schestowitz | "New Microsoft, new attitude…" | Mar 31 01:36 |
| r_schestowitz | mary, mary... | Mar 31 01:37 |
| r_schestowitz | What a scam she has been for ages | Mar 31 01:37 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/cloud-services/how-microsoft-is-serious-about-supporting-linux-and-cloud-rivals-with-oms-1318021 | Mar 31 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | How Microsoft is serious about supporting Linux and cloud rivals with OMS | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/opu9u ] | Mar 31 01:37 | |
| r_schestowitz | it's clear what the strategy is in the media | Mar 31 01:37 |
| Guest30739 | serious my ass | Mar 31 01:38 |
| Guest30739 | haha, what a joke | Mar 31 01:38 |
| r_schestowitz | Canonical is now doing Microsoft's EEE for Microsoft | Mar 31 01:39 |
| Guest30739 | :)) | Mar 31 01:39 |
| r_schestowitz | http://kotaku.com/nintendo-employee-terminated-after-smear-campaign-over-1768100368 http://nzgamer.com/news/9956/nintendo-terminates-employee-after-censorship-smear-campaign.html | Mar 31 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Nintendo Employee 'Terminated' After Smear Campaign Over Censorship [ http://ur1.ca/opuak ] | Mar 31 01:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nzgamer.com | Nintendo ‘Terminates’ Employee after Censorship Smear Campaign - NZGamer.com [ http://ur1.ca/opual ] | Mar 31 01:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Banished Linux port is pretty much complete, | Mar 31 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenGL performing well https://t.co/TEfFQdQ9q7 | Mar 31 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 31 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opuck | Mar 31 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Banished Linux port is pretty much complete, OpenGL performing well | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 01:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EVERSPACE, a fantastic looking 3D space shooter | Mar 31 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with roguelike elements coming to Linux | Mar 31 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Lvkc5rWu8i (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 31 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opucl | Mar 31 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | EVERSPACE, a fantastic looking 3D space shooter with roguelike elements coming to Linux | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 01:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ragdso favourited '5 Lightweight Linux For Old Computers https://t.co/6PA7pC3FDV' | Mar 31 02:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | 5 Lightweight Linux For Old Computers - LinuxAndUbuntu | Mar 31 02:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza | Mar 31 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tecknocrat | Mar 31 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 02:01 | |
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| r_schestowitz | A chain of stores offered last year for free to 159 schools in Romania 1749 functional notebooks ( Asus X101CH ) with Edubuntu on them. | Mar 31 02:12 |
| r_schestowitz | Unfortunately I learned that the Ministry of Education began to wipe the Edubuntu system on those notebooks and install Windows . | Mar 31 02:12 |
| r_schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=12852&threshold=0&commentsort=0&mode=improvedthreaded&pid=324540#324552 | Mar 31 02:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | quote | Mar 31 02:12 |
| Guest30739 | OMG | Mar 31 02:14 |
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| Guest30739 | I mean, typical romanian thinking | Mar 31 02:17 |
| Guest30739 | r_schestowitz: check out the new blog on OMG Ubuntu =)) | Mar 31 02:20 |
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| razielle_tzu | Guest30739: you mean this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/microsoft-linux-and-why-its-no-longer-2005 | Mar 31 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | It's No Longer 2005 (So Don't Panic About Microsoft's Linux Lovefest) - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/opuka ] | Mar 31 02:31 | |
| Guest30739 | yeah | Mar 31 02:32 |
| razielle_tzu | the more i read about the bash thing the less i like it... and i was already torn over it | Mar 31 02:37 |
| MinceR | hopefully it will never matter to me | Mar 31 02:37 |
| Guest30739 | same here | Mar 31 02:38 |
| razielle_tzu | any work i do is on linux or bsd so it shouldn't effect me | Mar 31 02:38 |
| Guest30739 | bsd is amazing, I think it should be promoted more | Mar 31 02:39 |
| razielle_tzu | which one i use is purely down to which hdd is in my laptop and how lazy i'm feeling | Mar 31 02:40 |
| MinceR | redhat is promoting bsd, in a way :> | Mar 31 02:40 |
| razielle_tzu | i must have missed that | Mar 31 02:40 |
| Guest30739 | no one cares about red hat =) | Mar 31 02:42 |
| MinceR | well, they're destroying GNU/Linux | Mar 31 02:44 |
| Guest30739 | they are making a lot of money from Linus' baby and that's all | Mar 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | and this has already resulted in some folks fleeing to *BSD | Mar 31 02:44 |
| Guest30739 | yeah, that too | Mar 31 02:44 |
| Guest30739 | I think I'm gonna move to BSD permanently, very very soon *evil laugh* | Mar 31 02:45 |
| razielle_tzu | which bsd? | Mar 31 02:47 |
| oiaohm | OpenBSD and FreeBSD still have the lack of drivers issue. | Mar 31 02:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 02:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/ovRoMZ1ZFR | Mar 31 02:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 31 02:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Comparing Fedora 23 and Korora 23 | Mar 31 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Cinnamon) https://t.co/TDTCXvhyjP | Mar 31 02:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Video: Comparing Fedora 23 and Korora 23 (Cinnamon) | Tux Machines | Mar 31 02:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics | Mar 31 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Mar 31 02:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Tux Machines | Mar 31 02:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Reiser4 Now Available For Linux 4.5 Kernel | Mar 31 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/G512JRzTUr (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 02:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Reiser4 Now Available For Linux 4.5 Kernel | Tux Machines | Mar 31 02:49 | |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: really it way to soon to know where Ubuntu on windows is going to end up. If it results in projects stopping windows binaries the location in time could be worse for Microsoft. | Mar 31 02:50 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Mar 31 02:50 |
| oiaohm | Could be OS/2 and win16 all over again. | Mar 31 02:50 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't remember much of that tbh | Mar 31 02:51 |
| oiaohm | Ibm with odion make a win16 emulator for OS/2 This was a very good quality emulator the result was companies made win16 applications instead of OS/2 ones. | Mar 31 02:52 |
| oiaohm | and in fact stopped making OS/2 applications and provided only win16 ones. | Mar 31 02:52 |
| oiaohm | Basically doomed OS/2 from making any progress particularly when win32 released and it was now incompadible. | Mar 31 02:52 |
| razielle_tzu | ouch | Mar 31 02:53 |
| Guest30739 | razielle_tzu: FreeBSD | Mar 31 02:53 |
| oiaohm | That is 4 year time frame. | Mar 31 02:53 |
| oiaohm | So 4 years from now Microsoft could be feeling ouch if ubuntu team plans this well. | Mar 31 02:53 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Mar 31 02:54 |
| oiaohm | Question is who is EEE who. | Mar 31 02:54 |
| razielle_tzu | they both could be trying to EEE the other, which will come out on top is another matter | Mar 31 02:54 |
| oiaohm | People also forget early on microsoft release internet explorer for unix and stopped that once they had enough market share. | Mar 31 02:55 |
| razielle_tzu | i didn't forget that, i didnt know about it. i haven't read up on microsoft's history and spent a long time using Amigas before i finally had to use windows for school | Mar 31 02:56 |
| oiaohm | Normally in effective EEE you make your stuff work on your opposition platform then pull the rug out from under it. | Mar 31 02:56 |
| oiaohm | MS Office on Android is following EEE model that could kind of work. | Mar 31 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu on Windows seams to be the exact reverse to what you want. | Mar 31 02:58 |
| oiaohm | as Microsoft | Mar 31 02:58 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't use any office software on my android devices but if i did it wouldn't be something MS put out anyway | Mar 31 02:59 |
| MinceR | for m$, making their stuff _work_ would be a challenge | Mar 31 02:59 |
| MinceR | they apparently don't believe in spending on engineers | Mar 31 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Also we have to remember the Oracle vs Google case over Java. | Mar 31 02:59 |
| oiaohm | That case means there is a horrible risk that the subsystem would have to be GPLv2. | Mar 31 03:00 |
| oiaohm | And if the vmware loses their case hello open source Windows. | Mar 31 03:00 |
| oiaohm | So the level of fire Microsoft is playing with is quite a lot. | Mar 31 03:00 |
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| oiaohm | The legal risk level kinda suggest Microsoft is desperate to slow down it server market loss of control. | Mar 31 03:01 |
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| MinceR | then again, it's sort of understandable | Mar 31 03:03 |
| MinceR | no self-respecting engineer would work with those criminal assholes | Mar 31 03:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: don't be too sure. | Mar 31 03:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the developer who designed the Linux kernel configuration script was latter highered by Microsoft. | Mar 31 03:06 |
| MinceR | he probably had no self-respect | Mar 31 03:07 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/Microsoft/msbuild | Mar 31 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | GitHub - Microsoft/msbuild: The Microsoft Build Engine (MSBuild) is the build platform for .NET and Visual Studio. | Mar 31 03:07 | |
| oiaohm | Its not that Microsoft is not attempting to go cross platform. The fact msbuild cannot build the first sample application cross platform is really a bad sign. | Mar 31 03:08 |
| oiaohm | Great new Microsoft project to kinda ruin self. https://github.com/Microsoft/BotBuilder How long before someone takes this and makes a spamming bot. | Mar 31 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | GitHub - Microsoft/BotBuilder: The Microsoft Bot Builder SDK is one of three main components of the Microsoft Bot Framework. The Microsoft Bot Framework provides just what you need to build and connect intelligent bots that interact naturally wherever your users are talking, from text/sms to Skype, Slack, Office 365 mail and other popular services. | Mar 31 03:10 | |
| MinceR | their own alleged "AI" bot already flooded twitter | Mar 31 03:10 |
| MinceR | so "how long" is 0s, or a negative amount | Mar 31 03:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I do notice Microsoft loves doing MIT licenses on everything. | Mar 31 03:14 |
| MinceR | no surprise there | Mar 31 03:18 |
| MinceR | freely usable in proprietary shit; no patent license | Mar 31 03:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also free to over license. | Mar 31 03:21 |
| oiaohm | MIT is a license you can over license with GPL or MPL | Mar 31 03:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SMARC COM and IoT gateway SBC are buzzing with | Mar 31 03:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wireless https://t.co/zIRZD1uJJ7 | Mar 31 03:51 |
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| belle105 | hi does anyone knows how Lenovo deals with warranty requests ? | Mar 31 04:26 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: depend on country. Here in Australia you need up using fair trading requirement statements a lot. | Mar 31 04:29 |
| belle105 | UK they have my pad but want to charge me £181 | Mar 31 04:30 |
| belle105 | to fix it | Mar 31 04:30 |
| belle105 | even though was sent to them under the warranty | Mar 31 04:30 |
| belle105 | cost £229 for it as a new pad. | Mar 31 04:31 |
| belle105 | why do they charge if it is still under warranty ? | Mar 31 04:32 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: it called the fine print. The is a huge number of things that are not covered. | Mar 31 05:15 |
| oiaohm | belle105: and most of those fine print things don't legally apply in australia due to fair trading laws. | Mar 31 05:15 |
| belle105 | even if its a mjor thing such as the hard drive ? | Mar 31 05:15 |
| belle105 | major * | Mar 31 05:15 |
| razielle_tzu | it is down to what the failure is | Mar 31 05:16 |
| oiaohm | belle105: it what they class as a consumable. | Mar 31 05:16 |
| belle105 | hard drive is consumable ? | Mar 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | belle105: I know the argument over harddrive failing due to impact. | Mar 31 05:17 |
| belle105 | no impact. reasonale use. never falen or abused in any way . | Mar 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Fair trading laws here mandate that harddrives have to be able to tollerate up to a 10G impact. | Mar 31 05:17 |
| belle105 | fallen * | Mar 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Using what lenovo tries is 1 foot drop. | Mar 31 05:18 |
| belle105 | never been dropped. | Mar 31 05:18 |
| oiaohm | belle105: basically I don't know UK law. | Mar 31 05:18 |
| belle105 | its ok | Mar 31 05:18 |
| belle105 | thank you for trying | Mar 31 05:19 |
| oiaohm | belle105: dropped in the box while in shipping. | Mar 31 05:19 |
| belle105 | i will try call them again | Mar 31 05:19 |
| oiaohm | Really you need to know your consumer laws before talking to them. | Mar 31 05:19 |
| belle105 | i had it for 10 months before it gave up | Mar 31 05:19 |
| oiaohm | smart in harddrive is like a data logger. | Mar 31 05:20 |
| belle105 | hence why i am trying to find out now since 03:am its now 05:20 am they wont be open for a while yet | Mar 31 05:20 |
| belle105 | whats data logger | Mar 31 05:20 |
| belle105 | i am not a techie person | Mar 31 05:20 |
| oiaohm | Records everything that has happened to it. | Mar 31 05:20 |
| oiaohm | while its powered. | Mar 31 05:21 |
| oiaohm | There a g sensors and all kinds of stuff inside harddrives. | Mar 31 05:21 |
| belle105 | ok | Mar 31 05:22 |
| oiaohm | consumable that lenovo uses is anything that can be damaged by general wear and tear. That does include harddrives. | Mar 31 05:22 |
| belle105 | 10 months even for a cheap machine | Mar 31 05:23 |
| belle105 | is unacceptable | Mar 31 05:23 |
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| oiaohm | harddrives most common causes of earily death is heat and impacts | Mar 31 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes harddrive log both. | Mar 31 05:23 |
| belle105 | heat is something all laptops have a problem with i hear | Mar 31 05:23 |
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| oiaohm | Not all. | Mar 31 05:23 |
| oiaohm | All high performing laptops have heat trouble. | Mar 31 05:24 |
| belle105 | i changed to mac after that | Mar 31 05:24 |
| belle105 | its not too bad tbh | Mar 31 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Some of less powerful laptops do in fact operate at level they can cool properly. | Mar 31 05:24 |
| belle105 | remains cool most of the time | Mar 31 05:25 |
| oiaohm | mac have quite heavy cooling parts fitted and it shows. | Mar 31 05:25 |
| oiaohm | 1/4 the weight of a mac laptop is parts related to cool. | Mar 31 05:26 |
| belle105 | wow i didn't know that | Mar 31 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Not all laptops have heat trouble. | Mar 31 05:26 |
| belle105 | the guy at the shop told me i wont need a cooling pad. i didn't believe him to beging with . | Mar 31 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Was it intel graphics. | Mar 31 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Amd or Nvidia graphics in fact generate lots of heat. | Mar 31 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Even mac laptops forced to use Nvidia graphics all the time show heat rise. | Mar 31 05:28 |
| belle105 | yes | Mar 31 05:28 |
| belle105 | intel | Mar 31 05:28 |
| belle105 | it was just Lenovo flex 10 | Mar 31 05:29 |
| belle105 | but still expected it to last longer | Mar 31 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Chassis in those sux. If you can pick up a laptop and it flex main frame is not strong enough to hold parts well. | Mar 31 05:31 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: and I have not seen any laptop with a major fold back screen with decent cooling fitted. | Mar 31 05:34 |
| oiaohm | belle105: by being able to flip upside down ruin you means to depend on venting under keyboard and the like to let heat out of device. | Mar 31 05:36 |
| belle105 | it wasn't the important thing for me. it was the size tbh. | Mar 31 05:38 |
| belle105 | i have problems with my hands and weight/ size does matter in this case haha | Mar 31 05:39 |
| oiaohm | That means you will have problems. | Mar 31 05:40 |
| oiaohm | Cooling hardware has weight and there is no way around it. | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | thsi macbook pro is ok | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | its light | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | despite the fact its 13 inch | Mar 31 05:40 |
| oiaohm | The aluimuim case is part of the cooling system. | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | i imagine it is | Mar 31 05:41 |
| belle105 | feels very light and cool | Mar 31 05:41 |
| oiaohm | Basically most of the casing of the macbook pro is second job cooling. | Mar 31 05:41 |
| belle105 | bit on a bad day even this can fee heavy | Mar 31 05:41 |
| oiaohm | So hiding lot of it weight. | Mar 31 05:41 |
| belle105 | nice | Mar 31 05:42 |
| belle105 | now i just have to learn how to use mac to get the maximum out of my machine | Mar 31 05:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is there are a few lighter than the 13 inch macbook out there but then you start running to swaping non cooling plastic(basically insulation) for cooling material like aluimuim then you start having heat problems. | Mar 31 05:43 |
| oiaohm | belle105: basically for good operation you are very interested in how the case is setup to cool it. | Mar 31 05:45 |
| belle105 | good tip for next windows laptop if i buy one :) | Mar 31 05:45 |
| belle105 | thanks for the help and the time :) | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | oiahom | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | oiahm | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | sorry see my hands in action ? | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | oiaohm | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | what does your name mean? | Mar 31 05:47 |
| oiaohm | oiaohm= "Ok I Am Over Here Mate" | Mar 31 05:47 |
| belle105 | lol cool :) | Mar 31 05:48 |
| oiaohm | Overheating is bad design of one form or another. 1 bad chassis design. 2 overloading the design with likes of highpower Nvidia gpus. | Mar 31 05:50 |
| belle105 | problem is you don't get to find these things out in practice until you get it home. | Mar 31 05:51 |
| belle105 | overheating problem | Mar 31 05:51 |
| oiaohm | So excuse that is normal for laptops to be hot is badly wrong. Laptops are hot because people like 1 buying too many feature in a laptop so they don't have to have a desktop. 2 cheap junk(bad chassises). | Mar 31 05:51 |
| belle105 | i have a desktop, but unable to use it atm. its in storage. | Mar 31 05:52 |
| belle105 | i had it since 2008 | Mar 31 05:53 |
| belle105 | works fine | Mar 31 05:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3042720/software-games/amd-xconnect-aims-to-make-external-graphics-cards-for-laptops-much-more-reliable.html An attempt to work around problem. | Mar 31 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Yes external box for laptop for high powered graphics card so you don't cook the living heck out it. | Mar 31 05:53 |
| tessier | If you could chain external graphics cards on a bus the crypto currency guys would love it. | Mar 31 05:53 |
| oiaohm | belle105: desktops more air space simpler on cooling so last longer mostly because they are not getting over cook or transported/abused. | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | crypto currency as in encryptors ? | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | or as bit | Mar 31 05:55 |
| oiaohm | belle105: crypto currency covers stuff like bitcoins | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | yes ok | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | :) | Mar 31 05:56 |
| belle105 | that fan looks like a monster fan | Mar 31 05:58 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies most fun name is dogecoin | Mar 31 05:59 |
| belle105 | ha dogecoin :P | Mar 31 05:59 |
| belle105 | so many of them now | Mar 31 06:00 |
| belle105 | wasn't long ago since the argument if bitcoin was legitimate currency | Mar 31 06:01 |
| oiaohm | That dispute about if bitcoin is legitimate currency applies to all the crypto currencies | Mar 31 06:02 |
| belle105 | i imagine it would. i am not well read about it atm. never had a cause to use them. so far.... wondering if its a good thing to have different ones and if unifying them will invite more undesirable control over the internet. | Mar 31 06:05 |
| oiaohm | We don't have one unified global currency either. | Mar 31 06:08 |
| belle105 | true . but in EU there is one currency. excluding the UK | Mar 31 06:09 |
| belle105 | so i am wondering if they will attempt to unify it | Mar 31 06:10 |
| oiaohm | I would say unlikely. | Mar 31 06:10 |
| belle105 | i am not sure it is good for the internet to have too many regulations. | Mar 31 06:10 |
| belle105 | but that is another conversation | Mar 31 06:11 |
| belle105 | thanks oiahm G'day | Mar 31 06:11 |
| belle105 | oiaohm | Mar 31 06:11 |
| belle105 | :) | Mar 31 06:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/715471244620005377 | Mar 31 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz EPO Appeal Board condemns examination delay https://t.co/eD29DoasDG | Mar 31 10:35 | |
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| schestowitz | Cited this yesterday | Mar 31 10:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715477394690183170 | Mar 31 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: What a bunch of db's. https://t.co/0TYg56XrQ7 | Mar 31 10:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why you should boycott #cloudflare both as host/Web developer and visitor https://t.co/i5FEjpu2wa they damage the #internet | Mar 31 10:56 | |
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| schestowitz | > x | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049715/microsoft-windows/bash-on-windows-is-just-the-beginning-for-microsofts-linux-experiments.html | Mar 31 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Bash on Windows: Only the beginning of the Microsoft-Linux experiment | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/opwm0 ] | Mar 31 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > tcsh was ported many, many years ago already. | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > - | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://blog.nullspace.io/batch.html | Mar 31 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nullspace.io | How bad is the Windows command line really? | Mar 31 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.wired.com/2016/03/microsoft-making-linux-apps-run-windows-isnt-crazy/ | Mar 31 11:05 |
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| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:05 |
| schestowitz | > EEE. Canonical is doing a Novell | Mar 31 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, so much has been said about this that I'd rather focus on EPO for now... | Mar 31 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Not exact | Mar 31 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Novell start porting Linux/Unix application to be windows native. | Mar 31 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Canonical is making Linux native binaries work on Windows. | Mar 31 11:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: funny what wired started reason for having Ubuntu compadiblity is why IBM made Odin for OS/2 with win16 support. | Mar 31 11:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itbusinessedge.com | Open Source and Microsoft Build | Mar 31 11:45 | |
| schestowitz | "One of the meetings that I remember most clearly was when Jim Allchin, who owned Windows at the time, met with me at my home. " | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Enderle | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz | meeting Microsoft at home | Mar 31 11:46 |
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| cubexyz | Microsoft's philosophy and "ethics" have always been bullshit | Mar 31 12:28 |
| cubexyz | the borg motif is apt, that's all they ever were | Mar 31 12:28 |
| cubexyz | and IBM and DEC.... they were both losers | Mar 31 12:29 |
| cubexyz | they did great work, but they messed up in the end | Mar 31 12:29 |
| cubexyz | IBM was a proto-Microsoft, hoarding as many hadware and software patents as possible | Mar 31 12:31 |
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| cubexyz | you could even say IBM invented the modern computer (transistorized stored program computer) | Mar 31 12:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/715503496427081728 | Mar 31 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Commissioned by dark tank @CIGIonline: https://t.co/XX6LORVe6a | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Since a "dark net" does not exist (it's a propaganda term) this poll is loaded, misleading, biased https://t.co/nJOhd5bhgV | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715502468319297537 | Mar 31 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Одна из так и не закрытых в последней версии уязвимостей OSx умещается в 1 твит. #Apple опасна. Как все неопенсоурс. https://t.co/mYNZiuWm63 | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Apple's fruitless rootless security broken by code that fits in a tweet https://t.co/DKFcQFiPWQ #apple #security | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| cubexyz | and the funny thing about software was, in the old days you got often got the source code for your operating system! | Mar 31 12:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txt | Mar 31 12:40 |
| cubexyz | DMS or OS/360-MVT? Full source was/is available | Mar 31 12:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, my advice to everyone is simple... | Mar 31 12:47 |
| cubexyz | stick with some FOSS operating system, my main recommendations are: slackware and derivatives like vector, and openbsd | Mar 31 12:48 |
| cubexyz | also the old IBM operating systems are interesting enough to try on emulated hardware | Mar 31 12:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi 3.2.0, SCOmbie Lives, Winbuntu | Mar 31 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qYR5EmB6TW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi 3.2.0, SCOmbie Lives, Winbuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 31 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BMW complies with GPL by handing over i3 car | Mar 31 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | code https://t.co/UDZDW9rk6i | Mar 31 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BMW complies with GPL by handing over i3 car code | Tux Machines | Mar 31 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Drupal creator on saving the open web | Mar 31 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Drupal creator on saving the open web | Tux Machines | Mar 31 12:57 | |
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| cubexyz | windows 10 using bash may not end up a bad thing | Mar 31 13:09 |
| cubexyz | gets windows folks used to bash at least | Mar 31 13:10 |
| schestowitz | no | Mar 31 13:14 |
| schestowitz | helps MS keep enterprises on Windows | Mar 31 13:14 |
| schestowitz | saying it's the best of both worlds | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | also compromises security | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | people's private keys and such stored on Vista 10 with spying, back doors, etc. | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | it's a farce | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | but will they pull it off? | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | I doubt it | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | people could run bash on Windows befor | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | not many did | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | cygwin for instance | Mar 31 13:15 |
| cubexyz | it's spreading more GPL software though | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | I used it 15 years ago | Mar 31 13:15 |
| cubexyz | well, of course there's no reason to go the other way :) | Mar 31 13:16 |
| schestowitz | and bosses can insist people don't use gnu/linux at work | Mar 31 13:17 |
| cubexyz | if you're already in Linux/BSD-land you'll not move to windows 10 | Mar 31 13:17 |
| schestowitz | "just 'upgrade' to Vista 10, Jake...' | Mar 31 13:17 |
| cubexyz | the scientists and thinkers will stick with Linux/BSD/FOSS-OS | Mar 31 13:17 |
| cubexyz | no one will want to run windows 10 as the server, it just doesn't work well with forced upgrades | Mar 31 13:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Positive progress on WebKitGTK+ security | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | updates https://t.co/45jR0DBijS | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Golden chance to translate Fedora 24 in your | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | language https://t.co/gDWwYQ48I4 | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exec: Why Red Hat's new partnership with | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sandisk matters https://t.co/SurOchj5Iv | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.bizjournals.com) | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Exec: Red Hat, SanDisk partnership further validates InkTank buy - Triangle Business Journal | Mar 31 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE and GNOME https://t.co/YBcMvhQjYL | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and GNOME | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/RygCTOFDqu | Mar 31 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free Software and Proprietary Games, Vivaldi | Mar 31 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and Proprietary Games, Vivaldi | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/jKWT3nI9JB | Mar 31 13:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/PZzm1ZvxGS | Mar 31 13:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 14:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 31/3/2016: Bodhi Linux 3.2.0, Kirigami UI | Mar 31 14:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/3/2016: Bodhi Linux 3.2.0, Kirigami UI | Techrights | Mar 31 14:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 31/3/2016: Bodhi Linux 3.2.0, Kirigami UI | Mar 31 15:23 |
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| __martin__ | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2452793/sco-vs-ibm-13-year-old-linux-dispute-returns-as-sco-files-new-appeal | Mar 31 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | SCO vs IBM: 13-year-old Linux dispute returns as SCO files new appeal- The Inquirer | Mar 31 15:55 | |
| __martin__ | april the first it tomorrow right | Mar 31 15:55 |
| __martin__ | meanwhile.. LINE is not an emulator | Mar 31 15:56 |
| __martin__ | :'D | Mar 31 15:56 |
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| Sudo_roots | Do you think microsoft using bash is a bad thing for linux? | Mar 31 17:25 |
| razielle_tzu | it could go either way | Mar 31 17:28 |
| Sudo_roots | I hope not | Mar 31 17:33 |
| Sudo_roots | Microsoft seems to making good stuff now. | Mar 31 17:33 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Mar 31 17:34 |
| Sudo_roots | I hated them for years. | Mar 31 17:34 |
| razielle_tzu | good stuff? | Mar 31 17:34 |
| Sudo_roots | only ran their stuff b/c of other people in the house | Mar 31 17:34 |
| Sudo_roots | By good stuff I meant good software | Mar 31 17:34 |
| Sosumi | m$ is just reviving the unix subsystem for windows | Mar 31 17:34 |
| Sudo_roots | The OS sucked for years. | Mar 31 17:34 |
| razielle_tzu | the OS still sucks | Mar 31 17:35 |
| Sudo_roots | It's has got better | Mar 31 17:35 |
| Sudo_roots | I like windows 10 | Mar 31 17:35 |
| Sosumi | but what they seem to be bringing is the possibility of running linux apps on windows | Mar 31 17:35 |
| Sudo_roots | YES! | Mar 31 17:35 |
| Sudo_roots | that is true | Mar 31 17:36 |
| Sosumi | lol windows 10 is horrible, still a disjointed GUI | Mar 31 17:36 |
| Sudo_roots | and they want to pull developers. | Mar 31 17:36 |
| Sosumi | 2 control panels, lol | Mar 31 17:36 |
| razielle_tzu | which is fine... it just means there's a chance of no windows ports, just linux apps | Mar 31 17:36 |
| Sudo_roots | most use macs; which has the bash system installed | Mar 31 17:36 |
| Sudo_roots | Yes I agree | Mar 31 17:36 |
| razielle_tzu | so why install windows if everything is linux based? | Mar 31 17:36 |
| Sudo_roots | People say the new OS is collecting data. Those same people by android phones | Mar 31 17:37 |
| Sudo_roots | buy* | Mar 31 17:37 |
| Sosumi | yes | Mar 31 17:37 |
| Sudo_roots | Why install windows? | Mar 31 17:37 |
| Sudo_roots | good question? the UI? | Mar 31 17:37 |
| Sosumi | no idea *rollseyes* | Mar 31 17:37 |
| razielle_tzu | the ui is horrible | Mar 31 17:37 |
| Sudo_roots | What UI do you like? | Mar 31 17:38 |
| Sosumi | I don't use windows on any of my machines | Mar 31 17:38 |
| Sudo_roots | PS4 UI sucks | Mar 31 17:38 |
| razielle_tzu | i prefer lxde | Mar 31 17:38 |
| Sosumi | aqua and kde | Mar 31 17:38 |
| razielle_tzu | kde/plasma is good too | Mar 31 17:39 |
| Sudo_roots | lxde looks like old windows | Mar 31 17:39 |
| Sudo_roots | windows xp | Mar 31 17:39 |
| razielle_tzu | by6 that token so do mate, cinnamon and xfce | Mar 31 17:39 |
| Sosumi | xp gui looked like a toy back then | Mar 31 17:39 |
| Sudo_roots | lol | Mar 31 17:39 |
| Sosumi | look mom, colors | Mar 31 17:40 |
| Sudo_roots | I hated windows vista and 7 | Mar 31 17:40 |
| abeNd-org | 2000 ui was the last non-toy looking one | Mar 31 17:40 |
| Sudo_roots | 2000 had issues. Not UI related | Mar 31 17:41 |
| Sudo_roots | windows 10 actual works | Mar 31 17:41 |
| Sosumi | at least both vista and 7 tried to have a consistent GUI | Mar 31 17:41 |
| Sosumi | and aero actually looked fine | Mar 31 17:41 |
| razielle_tzu | i run 7 on the computer i game on, verything else is running bsd or linux | Mar 31 17:41 |
| Sudo_roots | aero seem to be graphic card friendly | Mar 31 17:42 |
| Sosumi | you could turn the transparency effects off | Mar 31 17:43 |
| Sosumi | for performance and battery conservation | Mar 31 17:43 |
| Sudo_roots | That's bad design then. | Mar 31 17:43 |
| Sosumi | it's giving users the choice | Mar 31 17:43 |
| Sudo_roots | the problem is windows always set min requirement for hardware to low | Mar 31 17:44 |
| Sudo_roots | then it doesn't run good | Mar 31 17:44 |
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| Sosumi | specially when almost everyone buys $500 aptops | Mar 31 17:44 |
| Sosumi | *latops | Mar 31 17:44 |
| Sosumi | *laptops | Mar 31 17:45 |
| Sosumi | so everything counts | Mar 31 17:45 |
| Sudo_roots | people buy cheap/low end machine and complain windows sucks. Then that same person buys a $2000 dollar mac and love it | Mar 31 17:45 |
| Sosumi | :) | Mar 31 17:46 |
| abeNd-org | except the occ-rift folks, dont they say all macs suck? | Mar 31 17:46 |
| Sudo_roots | if everyone going to buy $500 dollar laptops then that should be what microsoft aims for. | Mar 31 17:46 |
| Sosumi | nah | Mar 31 17:46 |
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| abeNd-org | I don't think MS actually wanted the $150 netbook market either | Mar 31 17:46 |
| abeNd-org | low end atom processors with 512meg ram & a sorry tiny resolution screen? | Mar 31 17:47 |
| Sudo_roots | yeah those netbook worked good. I install linux on one | Mar 31 17:47 |
| Sudo_roots | I wish those came back | Mar 31 17:47 |
| razielle_tzu | i have one somewhere | Mar 31 17:47 |
| Sudo_roots | by Girlfriend broke the one I had. | Mar 31 17:48 |
| abeNd-org | heh, HP probooks are just about that, 1366x768 with tiny screens, under powered processors, etc | Mar 31 17:48 |
| Sudo_roots | I loved that machine; after installing linux | Mar 31 17:48 |
| Sudo_roots | that's the problem; those HP have resource hungry Windows on it | Mar 31 17:49 |
| abeNd-org | no, 1366x768 is pretty much not usable, i wouldnt wish that on anyone, especially with those tiny screens. the disks that come with those arent SSD, but the slowest HDD still available, etc. my 6 yr old e6510 with a samsung evo850 is faster | Mar 31 17:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/E7QU6WCXII | Mar 31 18:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 18:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @VivaVivaldi VivaVivaldi! is out! https://t.co/KMGake5KaS | Mar 31 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Stories via @horn_cds @kogcord | Mar 31 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines | Mar 31 18:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | VivaVivaldi! | Mar 31 18:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/5MAw9xqhdq | Mar 31 18:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 18:00 | |
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| MinceR | netbooks aren't underpowered, "modern" software is bloated | Mar 31 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: indeed, like Plasma 5 | Mar 31 19:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ElmarFasel/status/715548251039080448 | Mar 31 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ElmarFasel: @MarcusBiel while at the same time: https://t.co/tnHGJNotxZ | Mar 31 19:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 31 19:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/venzann/status/715603465553055745 | Mar 31 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@venzann: @thurrott Nope. Lots are still grumpy over patents - https://t.co/HfGKagrMCU | Mar 31 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | context https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/715603052372172800 | Mar 31 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@thurrott: #ptb I assume by this point even the most insane open source guys are OK with Microsoft. | Mar 31 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Mar 31 19:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/vivainio/status/715589222552498177 | Mar 31 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vivainio: @mitsuhiko "techrights" is still going on I think | Mar 31 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pslobo/status/715573850776473601 | Mar 31 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pslobo: @film_girl Yeah, but the truth aint always so great... https://t.co/gOebFZvdvb | Mar 31 19:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/5MAw9xqhdq | Mar 31 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Mar 31 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/715540022401843200 | Mar 31 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @HenryDimbleby @janinegibson ಠ_ಠ | Mar 31 20:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715622553608282112 | Mar 31 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: @schestowitz That was a dark episode in history for sure...however, I fear we're on the verge of another--one that's far far worse. | Mar 31 20:34 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-countries-that-elected-their-own-trump-long-time-ago/ | Mar 31 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | A Look At Our Future: 5 Nations Who Elected Their Trump | Cracked.com | Mar 31 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715623936189304832 | Mar 31 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: There are many reasons I wish people wouldn't use Charp for coding. Much less use the .NET platform. https://t.co/CVjxCt0knt | Mar 31 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: On #microsoft with #ximian #novell #xamarin #mono #moonlight etc. https://t.co/37zkLiOI1l #swpats Trojan horses | Mar 31 20:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darksim905/status/715626274509754368 | Mar 31 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darksim905: @schestowitz @AnarchistDalek Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people who actually do want Microsoft to continue to be successful :-) | Mar 31 20:51 | |
| schestowitz | there are also many proprietary software proponents out there... | Mar 31 20:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715626308663951360 | Mar 31 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I thought you meant washboard @schestowitz You know. Those things you strum with a guitar plectrum. | Mar 31 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe they needed it for Ballmer's shirt | Mar 31 20:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715627110858104834 | Mar 31 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz C# can be fun, and is your main friend if you use Unity (the game engine, not window manager). | Mar 31 20:53 | |
| schestowitz | C# is platform lockin | Mar 31 20:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715627285353742336 | Mar 31 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz but I imagine your worries come more from a platform standpoint rather than the language itself | Mar 31 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Mar 31 20:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715627471513657344 | Mar 31 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz yeah, it's a shame that. And why I use other engines instead of Unity. I don't intend to ever learn Charp | Mar 31 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/fordham-2016-copyright-and-trade-mark.html?showComment=1459448690319#c6277509502471203839 | Mar 31 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Fordham 2016: Copyright and trade mark - what does the future hold? [ http://ur1.ca/opzsv ] | Mar 31 20:57 | |
| schestowitz | " Dimitris pronounced it E.U.I.P.O. " | Mar 31 20:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715628603204116482 | Mar 31 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Shirt did look a bit filthy last time I talked to him @schestowitz Bill Gates playing the ukulele at Boston LinuxCon 2006 finished me. | Mar 31 20:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715629415359766533 https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715629502756478976 | Mar 31 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @schestowitz @retroDoomer I get that it's not perfect... but it's also not that bad anymore. Different story if you depend on some specific | Mar 31 20:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @schestowitz @retroDoomer stuff like Windows.Forms or whatever, but it certainly has come a long way thanks to Xamarin | Mar 31 20:59 | |
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| schestowitz | No, Xamarin is a Trojan horse that helps #microsoft dominate and control developers, under false pretenses | Mar 31 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715629716842102784 | Mar 31 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Can't argue with that @schestowitz | Mar 31 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715629766691332096 | Mar 31 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz Which is kind of the point though, the specifics. As long as it's an MS project, it'll never have platform equality | Mar 31 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715630375695986688 | Mar 31 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz it becomes more of a discussion about frameworks than C# itself at this point though | Mar 31 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | not necessarily, C# in its own right is tightly connected to and generalisable to a framework (.NET) | Mar 31 21:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715630658719121408 | Mar 31 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz Yeah sorry, I refer to it all as C#. Can't really have one without the other afaik | Mar 31 21:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/E7QU6WCXII | Mar 31 21:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Mar 31 21:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 21:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big karma points to linux foundation for | Mar 31 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | helping to educate about #freesw enforcement | Mar 31 21:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Free 'law for Linux developers' class opens its virtual doors | ZDNet | Mar 31 21:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five great keyboard alternatives for Android | Mar 31 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tablets https://t.co/EsDvEZK4yM | Mar 31 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Five great keyboard alternatives for Android tablets - TechRepublic | Mar 31 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Nexus 6P vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge—Two | Mar 31 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Android’s finest https://t.co/M0nOkYwwWy | Mar 31 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | Google Nexus 6P vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge—Two of Android's finest | Mar 31 21:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-famillemontel.org | Status QtWebEngine in KDEPIM | KDEPIM KDE and opensource | Mar 31 21:37 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo | Mar 31 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for $230 and up https://t.co/Bbh9bGmI73 | Mar 31 21:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MJ Technology's Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230 and up - Liliputing | Mar 31 21:41 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Legacy PCs Continue Nose-diving In 2016 | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/InCETfpliG (mrpogson.com) "PCs, | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers and some gadgets, many running | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux." | Mar 31 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Legacy PCs Continue Nose-diving In 2016 | Robert Pogson | Mar 31 21:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Is Looking Great, Running Well | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Is Looking Great, Running Well - Phoronix | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Don't Starve: Shipwrecked Expansion sails out | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Early Access, Linux supported | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Don't Starve: Shipwrecked Expansion sails out of Early Access, Linux supported | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CodeWeavers Announces CrossOver 15.1.0 for | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8.1 | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CodeWeavers Announces CrossOver 15.1.0 for Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8.1 | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for $230 and up https://t.co/kS68B24g4e | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230 and up | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/oHmn7xnw2Y | Mar 31 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Abot — How To Make Your Own Digital Assistant | Mar 31 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With This Free And Open Source Tool | Mar 31 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Abot — How To Make Your Own Digital Assistant With This Free And Open Source Tool | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unreal Engine 4.11 Released With Better | Mar 31 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Performance & Greater Visuals | Mar 31 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unreal Engine 4.11 Released With Better Performance & Greater Visuals - Phoronix | Mar 31 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/xscmanns/status/715653219465043968 | Mar 31 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xscmanns: and I've only tested a good dozen using Steam_Linux on FreeBSD w/linux compat. The list shall grow https://t.co/qIkjhRYWzi | Mar 31 22:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone https://t.co/kN95sXwRTX #gnu #linux #games | Mar 31 22:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Kepler Is Outperforming NVIDIA's Blob | Mar 31 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | There Is A Steam Linux Game Where Nouveau On Kepler Is Outperforming NVIDIA's Blob - Phoronix | Mar 31 22:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.expertreviews.co.uk | Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Expert Reviews | Mar 31 23:04 | |
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| cubexyz | I just had to say that :) | Mar 31 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 31 23:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Mar 31 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret | Mar 31 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Mar 31 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maramala/status/715672022030819333 | Mar 31 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Techrights | Mar 31 23:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maramala: .@schestowitz Mind blown (...though obvious in hindsight, but still). Always wondered why we had to save everything back when I was in SEO. | Mar 31 23:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and...' | Mar 31 23:55 | |
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| oiaohm | https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/PATENTS.TXT still limited that you cannot fork it. | Mar 31 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | mono/PATENTS.TXT at master · mono/mono · GitHub | Mar 31 23:55 | |
| MinceR | 01 005422 < TweetTuxMachines> @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Mar 31 23:56 |
| MinceR | april fools already? | Mar 31 23:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/715673817981526017 | Mar 31 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz too early, my insider report is scheduled for tomorrow | Mar 31 23:58 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is here | Mar 31 23:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 31 23:59 |
| MinceR | oh, now i see the tags | Mar 31 23:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715675500316921856 | Apr 01 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz I wish. | Apr 01 00:03 | |
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| schestowitz | I'd be the first one to congratulate them. Spend a decade on this. 20,000+ posts. | Apr 01 00:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715675798120898560 https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715675898410897408 | Apr 01 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz simple truth is i actually thought @sjvn ’s story on Ubuntu/Windows at first was an early April fools prank too... | Apr 01 00:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz @sjvn but it’s not! .. man do i hate April 1st ... | Apr 01 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | SJVN didn't 'break' the news though. Three Microsoft 'news' sites said it the night before and i wrote about it. | Apr 01 00:04 |
| schestowitz | first reports: http://mspoweruser.com/you-might-be-able-to-run-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-10-soon/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-show-bash-on-linux-running-on-windows-10/ http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-set-announce-bash-linux-running-windows-10-according-reports I watch these things closely | Apr 01 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mspoweruser.com | You might be able to run Bash on Ubuntu on Windows 10 soon - MSPoweruser [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t2 ] | Apr 01 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft to show Bash on Linux running on Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t3 ] | Apr 01 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winbeta.org | Microsoft set to announce bash on Linux running on Windows 10 [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t4 ] | Apr 01 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | whereupon I wrote http://techrights.org/2016/03/29/microsoft-attacks-linux/ (trying to focus on #epo but couldn't just totally ignore this) | Apr 01 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oq0tb ] | Apr 01 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715677020223569921 | Apr 01 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @TechJournalist @schestowitz I sweated bullets on that one since I had to draw the lines between the dots. Fortunately, I nailed it. | Apr 01 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | it was basically Microsoft reinventing cygwin (which I used 15+ years ago), early reports misled | Apr 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | i thought it was an attempt to get some PR out of their cancelled project to let android applications run on winblows | Apr 01 00:09 |
| schestowitz | "None. Microsoft declares darkness the standard." http://www.zpub.com/un/bill/light.html nothing invented until #microsoft says so. | Apr 01 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zpub.com | How many Microsoft engineers needed to screw a light bulb ?? | Apr 01 00:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that too | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | it never really happened | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | last I read, they called it off | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | just under a month ago | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned this in passing | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | they're losing it | Apr 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | but trying to drag linux down with them | Apr 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715677184212471808 | Apr 01 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @sjvn that you did. hope the traffic analytics etc, rewarded you for your efforts. | Apr 01 00:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715677646483496960 | Apr 01 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz @schestowitz @maryjofoley got the first dots. I think I was the 1st to say "This can't be containers, it has to be native." | Apr 01 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | coLinux :-) | Apr 01 00:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.colinux.org/ | Apr 01 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.colinux.org | Cooperative Linux | Apr 01 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-deal-with-trade-union-not-what-it.html?showComment=1459433679033#c2993788038032819246 | Apr 01 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO deal with trade union - not what it seems | Apr 01 00:16 | |
| schestowitz | " I am wondering whether these back checks are in compliance with Rule 153 EPC provided that the "visitor" is a professional representative. " | Apr 01 00:16 |
| schestowitz | EPO... | Apr 01 00:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715680401633775617 | Apr 01 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz @maryfofoley I know ccLinux. I'll be writing a piece on what WSL is, and isn't and it's place in history soon. | Apr 01 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | There are a couple more examples of 'prior art' whose name I cannot recall. Anyway, it's not a new thing. | Apr 01 00:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stephstad/status/715687810158751744 | Apr 01 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stephstad: @schestowitz not an April Fools joke! We just made the announcement - both of those links work now (for me) https://t.co/dZ07Gq1qKS | Apr 01 00:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RedHatNews: [NEWS] Red Hat Expands Red Hat Developer Program with No-Cost Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer Subscription https://t.co/MnRYC4Xf3D | Apr 01 00:51 | |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Apr 01 00:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/87646 | Apr 01 00:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Laptop Launches in Europe | Apr 01 00:58 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201557 | Apr 01 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 1. Embrace (buy #skype ) 2. extend (add spying for profit, see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_Campaign ) 3. extinguish #gnu #linux support 4. Profit again! | Apr 01 01:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Skype is Spy Campaign - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/9tkg0 ] | Apr 01 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7197275 | Apr 01 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft 'loves' #linux because it's part of the strategy. Like someone says "I LOVE broccoli". Just play along, extinguish around corner. | Apr 01 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Those of us old enough may remember the browser wars - IE versus Netscape. More examples on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish" | Apr 01 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Embrace, extend and extinguish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/n2o73 ] | Apr 01 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Thanks Martin. I had not previously seen these details." | Apr 01 01:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7197211 | Apr 01 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves Linux, in pictures http://d1bghp9m77ju8l.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Marrying-for-Money.jpghttp://d1bghp9m77ju8l.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Marrying-for-Money.jpg | Apr 01 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | "xD" | Apr 01 01:23 |
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| cubexyz | oh no, not that again | Apr 01 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7199446 | Apr 01 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa respects #privacy like #microsoft loves #linux (both need only to pretend while they crush that which they claim to hug) | Apr 01 01:25 | |
| schestowitz | "And Cloudflare totally embraces Tor!' | Apr 01 01:25 |
| schestowitz | it's blacklists embrace Tor | Apr 01 01:25 |
| schestowitz | its blacklists embrace Tor | Apr 01 01:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7165599 | Apr 01 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #apple cares about #privacy like I care about cows. I think they're adorable, yet I continue to eat beef every now and then. | Apr 01 01:32 | |
| schestowitz | "some people are pathological liars, it slips off their tongues so easily, without conscience. Use your intuition, it helps us spot them." | Apr 01 01:32 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: the history of EEE events most of the time it ends up back firing. | Apr 01 02:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the question is how many years. | Apr 01 02:06 |
| schestowitz | example? | Apr 01 02:19 |
| oiaohm | flash and active-x both attempts to EEE web standards but now being replaced by html5 | Apr 01 02:24 |
| MinceR | html5 is flash2.0 | Apr 01 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Smaller area of fight in html5 | Apr 01 02:25 |
| MinceR | it has patent-encumbered codecs as the standard, blobs, DRM, shitty implementations, extreme complexity | Apr 01 02:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, because the fascists won | Apr 01 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Won and lost. | Apr 01 02:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: flash and active-x both attempt to EEE web standards. Now those parties are now in a dog fight with each other over html5. | Apr 01 02:27 |
| oiaohm | Has attempting EEE helped them long term really no. | Apr 01 02:28 |
| MinceR | well, they got the w3c to rubberstamp their shit with strings attached as the "standard" | Apr 01 02:29 |
| oiaohm | Ms used RTF to EEE Office market. Result down the track governements demarding open standards because they pushing RTF as a open standard that did not turn out to be. | Apr 01 02:29 |
| MinceR | and this time disabling a plugin won't get rid of the bullshit | Apr 01 02:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/#privacy-disclosure It does pay to read more on it. | Apr 01 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-w3c.github.io | Encrypted Media Extensions | Apr 01 02:34 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: funny enough being standard conforming requires off switch option. | Apr 01 02:35 |
| MinceR | how much bullshit is necessary to make DRM acceptable? | Apr 01 02:38 |
| schestowitz | Was Flash EEE at all? | Apr 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Never thought of it that way | Apr 01 02:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: when did Microsoft EEE backfire? | Apr 01 02:40 |
| MinceR | also, if EEE backfires and you can't tell whom the EEE involved in n00buntu on Backdoors10 is directed against, then whom will it backfire against? | Apr 01 02:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194310 | Apr 01 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft EEE with #mono inside #debian and #ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/images/1/10/Mono-the-trojan.png so who was right about Mono after all? ;-) Now #microsoft ware | Apr 01 02:41 | |
| schestowitz | "What’s the news, Roy? Are Microsoft employees sneaking it back into default dependencies or otherwise having success at pushing it into software everyone loves?" | Apr 01 02:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft bought Jo Shields and the rest of the gang. Today there was a lot of Xamarin PR... | Apr 01 02:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: RTF was made by Microsoft to EEE the Office suite market. It worked at first. But RTF is what starts the demards for open standards for document storage. | Apr 01 02:42 |
| schestowitz | and they got DOC etc. | Apr 01 02:42 |
| schestowitz | how did that backfire?? | Apr 01 02:42 |
| schestowitz | And they killed wordprerfect with formats | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | RTF was left behind as a mirage | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | while Microsoft EEEd it | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | Watch Skype now | Apr 01 02:43 |
| oiaohm | That it working at first. | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | Extended (spying) | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | and Linux no lomger supported for some things | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | so... move to Windows | Apr 01 02:43 |
| MinceR | and then they bought ISO and got it to fast-track/rubberstamp OOXML | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | after you got 'addicted' to it on Linux | Apr 01 02:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: OOXML is a moving target too | Apr 01 02:44 |
| oiaohm | So once RTF turned into a mirage the government parties who now felt tricked have started writing rules demarding open standards. | Apr 01 02:44 |
| schestowitz | MS never implemented ECMA OOXML | Apr 01 02:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a publicity stunt/coup | Apr 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | and of course the thousands of retards plaguing the IT industry believe all the bullshit | Apr 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | (millions?) | Apr 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: of course, the trick works without them doing anything right | Apr 01 02:44 |
| schestowitz | people not pass those rubbish files around | Apr 01 02:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Microsoft is forced by governement requirements to open open doors with OOXML for compadiblity events. | Apr 01 02:44 |
| schestowitz | and then EUropean govs complain about "incompatibility' | Apr 01 02:44 |
| schestowitz | (OOXML) | Apr 01 02:45 |
| schestowitz | As many warned 10 years ago | Apr 01 02:45 |
| schestowitz | now Munich can use Ubuntu | Apr 01 02:45 |
| schestowitz | ...in Vista 10 | Apr 01 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes those complains are all created out of what MS promised. | Apr 01 02:45 |
| schestowitz | with "compatible" MS Office... | Apr 01 02:45 |
| schestowitz | anyway, 3am, gn | Apr 01 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft promised with RTF one office file format no matter the Office suite to win EEE. | Apr 01 02:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 02:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An open source microprocessor for wearables | Apr 01 02:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An open source microprocessor for wearables | Tux Machines | Apr 01 02:47 | |
| oiaohm | The problem with EEE is you end up held to what ever promise you make to have it successes. | Apr 01 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha https://t.co/b5uFd5sXm1 | Apr 01 02:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Alpha | Tux Machines | Apr 01 02:47 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ubuntu on windows 10 why would you as a governement write windows programs comes the problem. | Apr 01 02:47 |
| MinceR | that's when the incompatible extensions to "ubuntu" on Backdoors10 will come into play | Apr 01 02:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux robot teaches coding, shoots lasers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 02:48 | |
| MinceR | and once the suckers are hooked on those, "ubuntu" on Backdoors10 will start becoming slower | Apr 01 02:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember incompatible extentions on RTF trigger the supper demard for open standards now. | Apr 01 02:48 |
| MinceR | where's that "super demand"? | Apr 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | in OOXML? in HTML5? in UEFI? | Apr 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | in crApp Store? | Apr 01 02:49 |
| oiaohm | OOXML from Microsoft comes because without attempting to provide open standard at all equals no more contracts. | Apr 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | the imbeciles learned to love DRM, closed platforms, lock-in, tivoization, bloat, you name it | Apr 01 02:50 |
| MinceR | if it's shit, they love it | Apr 01 02:50 |
| oiaohm | MS Office supporting ODF also comes from that. | Apr 01 02:50 |
| MinceR | and they'll attack you for daring to speak out against it | Apr 01 02:50 |
| MinceR | yeah, m$ office supporting ODF deliberately badly | Apr 01 02:50 |
| MinceR | m$ office isn't even compatible with itself | Apr 01 02:50 |
| MinceR | yeah, they got ISO to rubberstamp OOXML, so apparently that requirement is fulfilled, even though OOXML is perfectly useless | Apr 01 02:51 |
| oiaohm | That deliberately badly is getting them on the wrong side of many governments because it not meeting microsoft RTF promise. | Apr 01 02:51 |
| oiaohm | In fact some are forcing Microsoft to provide them with software for nothing due to breach of contract. | Apr 01 02:52 |
| oiaohm | Payment was conditional on ODF support working. | Apr 01 02:52 |
| oiaohm | As I said its how many years EEE has the bad habit of down the track turning nasty on the one that attempts it. | Apr 01 02:53 |
| MinceR | that's what the bribes are for | Apr 01 02:54 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the other thing notice a lot of people are being investaged and done for bribes over software at the moment. | Apr 01 02:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: EEE normally does involve bribes in places and those backfire in time as well. | Apr 01 02:58 |
| MinceR | i doubt we've seen the last of corruption | Apr 01 02:59 |
| MinceR | not by a long shot | Apr 01 02:59 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying we have seen the end of it. | Apr 01 03:00 |
| oiaohm | FOSS stuff does limit options for corruption. | Apr 01 03:01 |
| MinceR | which might be yet another reason the oligarchs are trying hard to destroy it | Apr 01 03:01 |
| oiaohm | The problem with Ubuntu on Windows is Ubuntu has been careful to get into the promise running unmodified Ubuntu binaries. | Apr 01 03:11 |
| oiaohm | That kinda adds extend problem as that would require modified Ubuntu binaries. | Apr 01 03:11 |
| MinceR | and how will that promise be enforced? | Apr 01 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Its what Microsoft has promise to customers. | Apr 01 03:12 |
| oiaohm | If it does not happen down the road Microsoft will end up paying for it like RTF has triggered now. | Apr 01 03:12 |
| MinceR | ah, so in no way whatsoever | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | as for customers, m$ has been fucking them over hard for years and yet they still have customers | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | and cultists | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that most humans are simply incapable of learning | Apr 01 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Supply requirements do hit Microsoft. | Apr 01 03:14 |
| MinceR | i'll believe it when i see it happen. | Apr 01 03:14 |
| oiaohm | You have seen MS Office having to add ODF then keep on improving it to keep up with Supply requirements. | Apr 01 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Now if supply requirements becomes able to run Linux Standard base testsuite then things will get fun. | Apr 01 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Basically Microsoft with Ubuntu on Windows risks opening pandora. | Apr 01 03:15 |
| MinceR | except the LSB is maintained the LF | Apr 01 03:16 |
| MinceR | and m$ has bought itself into LF | Apr 01 03:16 |
| MinceR | and even has some allies hellbent on destroying GNU/Linux in there | Apr 01 03:16 |
| MinceR | the LSB is worse than useless at this point, just like the LF | Apr 01 03:16 |
| oiaohm | Linux world is like hurding cats no single point is fully in control. | Apr 01 03:17 |
| oiaohm | But single points can bring annoying trouble. | Apr 01 03:17 |
| MinceR | ask the distros following ratcrap's lead and claiming it would be too much work to remove cancerd's tentacles from everything about that. | Apr 01 03:18 |
| MinceR | especially debilian | Apr 01 03:18 |
| oiaohm | systemd will get simpler to remove in time. | Apr 01 03:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, because it will take over everything | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | and then removing systemd will mean installing a different OS and using different programs | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Do you know why cgroup management had to be in init 1. | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | so, where do you see the maximum extent of cancerd? | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | because everything had to be in pid1 | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Wrong | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | because separation of concerns is for unix | Apr 01 03:20 |
| oiaohm | There is a Linux kernel design issue handling cgroups. | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | and so is memory protection and multiprocessing | Apr 01 03:20 |
| oiaohm | Solution is in fact cgroup v2 and with cgroup v2 allows proper cgroup namespace splitting. | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | even if they make Linux require running systemd, that does not change my point | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | even if they make Linux require running systemd _and_ incapable of running any other process beside it, that does not change my point | Apr 01 03:21 |
| oiaohm | What I am talking about will in time remove systemd from being required. | Apr 01 03:21 |
| MinceR | and there already are a lot of things in cancerd that have nothing to do with cgroups or reaping zombies or process management | Apr 01 03:21 |
| MinceR | so, again, where will they stop? | Apr 01 03:21 |
| oiaohm | That is looking at this from the wrong way. | Apr 01 03:24 |
| oiaohm | To work out exactly what was broken with cgroups and namespaces required having something to push it to limits. | Apr 01 03:24 |
| MinceR | it didn't require turning most major distros into useless crap, though | Apr 01 03:25 |
| MinceR | yet that's exactly what they did. | Apr 01 03:25 |
| oiaohm | systemd distrupting other tools attempting to use cgroups and so on. leads to that stuff being fixed up. | Apr 01 03:25 |
| MinceR | for whom? | Apr 01 03:25 |
| MinceR | who will use that stuff, once cancerd eats everything in unix? | Apr 01 03:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 with namespace cgroup mode allows a namespaced section to run own cgroups | Apr 01 03:26 |
| oiaohm | Without messing with system wide or using anything other than kernel syscalls. | Apr 01 03:26 |
| MinceR | also, did NTPD try to use cgroups? | Apr 01 03:26 |
| MinceR | did crond? | Apr 01 03:27 |
| MinceR | or did apache or lighttpd? | Apr 01 03:27 |
| MinceR | or perhaps grub or elilo used cgroups? | Apr 01 03:27 |
| oiaohm | Really lot of wrong examples mixed in there. | Apr 01 03:28 |
| oiaohm | apache and cron both had extentions to use cgroups to restriect sub processes from inflicting hell on the system. | Apr 01 03:28 |
| oiaohm | cgroups are about controlling how much cpu/mem and other resources a group of processes can use. | Apr 01 03:29 |
| oiaohm | That is a highly useful thing. | Apr 01 03:29 |
| oiaohm | The fact with cgroup v1 it would not stack properly and other things made those features in kernel fairly much not useable. | Apr 01 03:30 |
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| MinceR | depends on what you consider "wrong" | Apr 01 03:31 |
| MinceR | point is that there's no scope to cancerd, there's no rhyme or reason to what it gobbles up | Apr 01 03:31 |
| oiaohm | Allowing process to be listed in 2 incompadible cgroups. | Apr 01 03:31 |
| MinceR | there's no way of knowing how or where or when or if ever it will stop | Apr 01 03:31 |
| oiaohm | So causing a system lock up. I don't see how that could ever be right. | Apr 01 03:31 |
| MinceR | (well, except that once the fascists wipe out computing, that will take cancerd out) | Apr 01 03:32 |
| MinceR | sounds like cgroups is a huge fuckup that should never have been attempted | Apr 01 03:32 |
| oiaohm | systemd started as something to attempt to use all the functionality Linux kernel in fact offers in a init system. | Apr 01 03:32 |
| MinceR | they just can't get it right and pile errors on errors | Apr 01 03:32 |
| oiaohm | systemd proved cgroup v1 design was not repairable. | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | "to use all the functionality in underlying software" is a terrible design goal | Apr 01 03:33 |
| oiaohm | But a great test suite goal. | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | unless you're building a test tool | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | but systemd was never marketed as a test suite | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | it was marketed as an init system | Apr 01 03:33 |
| oiaohm | If you read the first release statement it clearly states the goal. | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | is that compatible with the monster it already bloated into? | Apr 01 03:34 |
| oiaohm | This is why I am kinda not supprised that it going all directions. | Apr 01 03:34 |
| MinceR | afaik even poettering couldn't really define what cancerd is supposed to be | Apr 01 03:34 |
| oiaohm | He did define it as a init system built for Linux using all of it functionality | Apr 01 03:35 |
| oiaohm | For the most secure init system possible. | Apr 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | well, it is not an init system | Apr 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | and calling it secure is even more laughable | Apr 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | the latest marketing bullshit is "systemd is a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system.[C" | Apr 01 03:36 |
| oiaohm | That was the goal. | Apr 01 03:36 |
| MinceR | from https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ | Apr 01 03:36 |
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| oiaohm | Did I say they have made it. | Apr 01 03:36 |
| MinceR | that is not a thing | Apr 01 03:36 |
| MinceR | that's like calling a text editor "a set of bits that do something on a computer" | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | there are tons of software you could call it "a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system" that look or work nothing alike. | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | s/it// | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | s/ / / | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | "Linux" systems are diverse and are built from many kinds of components | Apr 01 03:38 |
| MinceR | compare a typical GNU/Linux distro with a BusyBox/Linux distro and Android | Apr 01 03:38 |
| oiaohm | https://busybox.net/~vda/init_vs_runsv.html busybox and android developers don't like sysvinit either. | Apr 01 03:40 |
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| MinceR | irrelevant | Apr 01 03:40 |
| oiaohm | Android in it init system does use cgroups. | Apr 01 03:40 |
| MinceR | therefore cgroup manager is not strictly "a basic building block for a Linux system", is it? | Apr 01 03:41 |
| oiaohm | Like or not most of the schedulers in fact depend in cgroup information. Without a cgroup manager you end up having to use a horrible to fake it https://lwn.net/Articles/415740/ | Apr 01 03:43 |
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| MinceR | again, irrelevant | Apr 01 03:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so to have a Linux kernel function correctly you really do need a cgroup manager. | Apr 01 03:43 |
| MinceR | no, then i need Linux to be unfucked | Apr 01 03:43 |
| MinceR | there was a rule about not breaking userspace | Apr 01 03:43 |
| MinceR | how does working around kernel bugs in userspace obey that rule? | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | solaris has zones windows has sessions Freebsd has another grouping tech. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| MinceR | irrelevant | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | All OS have some group tech. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | That group tech has to be managed. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | end of story basically. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| MinceR | also, it's quite interesting how things we happily did before cancerd came out of the woodwork were suddenly declared to be impossible by our wannabe overlords | Apr 01 03:44 |
| MinceR | no, i can just build a kernel without that shitty "tech" | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | and then it doesn't need to be managed. | Apr 01 03:45 |
| oiaohm | Then you complain about a set of performance issues. | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | and we can revisit that "tech" once they manage to implement it in a way that does not sucks. | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | s/ks/k/ | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | can you quote me complaining about performance issues? | Apr 01 03:45 |
| oiaohm | You might not have but a lot before systemd were already attempting to get around the performance issues. | Apr 01 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Like there is no point a process having cpu time if it does not have io time and the like. | Apr 01 03:47 |
| oiaohm | cgroups are kind of a required evil so the schedulers can have enough to make correct selections. | Apr 01 03:47 |
| MinceR | well, if cgroups can't function without cancerd, then it's a shitty design | Apr 01 03:48 |
| MinceR | and the people who came up with it can fuck off and go back to m$ | Apr 01 03:48 |
| MinceR | we already have a kernel built by idiots for idiots who enjoy shitty designs, it's called windows nt | Apr 01 03:49 |
| oiaohm | cgroups v2 alterations are not about making it work with systemd but in fact about making it work. | Apr 01 03:49 |
| oiaohm | No matter the init system. | Apr 01 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Or the combination of tools. | Apr 01 03:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroupv1 predates systemd and did not have anything to give it a decent work out where stacking was being forced. | Apr 01 03:50 |
| MinceR | looks like this applies to the entirety of cgroups and systemd as well: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420 | Apr 01 03:50 |
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| MinceR | the kernel does shitty things userspace has to work around | Apr 01 03:51 |
| MinceR | and half of the userspace has to be thrown out to accommodate the enormous hack they have for that purpose | Apr 01 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Really systemd changed very little of userspace interfaces. | Apr 01 03:53 |
| oiaohm | Has questioned a lot of the provides. | Apr 01 03:53 |
| MinceR | except it broke init, cron, and who knows what else | Apr 01 03:54 |
| oiaohm | There was a rework to the command line handling in 2015. | Apr 01 03:54 |
| MinceR | like this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783683 | Apr 01 03:54 |
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| MinceR | oh, right, it also fucked up the kernel command line handling | Apr 01 03:55 |
| MinceR | flooded the syslog until the system crashed if you put "debug" in it | Apr 01 03:55 |
| MinceR | and now we're supposed to throw out all the system, use cancerd in its place, and we are also required to like it | Apr 01 03:55 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: no the new command line handling means applications don't need to attempt to re token the command like the token form is provided in /proc as well. | Apr 01 03:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: exactly why did every application wantting to see if Linux kernel command line had a option had to token it individually. | Apr 01 03:58 |
| MinceR | and yet it worked. | Apr 01 03:59 |
| MinceR | unlike lendows. | Apr 01 03:59 |
| oiaohm | In fact over the years many applications had miss tokened it before systemd. | Apr 01 03:59 |
| MinceR | how many applications need to bother with the kernel command line? | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | Just a bug that went not addressed until after systemd. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| MinceR | (hint: cancerd shouldn't have either, as they obviously fucked it up) | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is 200 applications+ known to check the Linux command line for stuff. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| MinceR | that's a "bug" like the UI not working exactly like winblows does | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically a lot more than most would think. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| MinceR | maybe a "bug" to you and poettering, but not to anyone else | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | 3 of those was part of sysvinit | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | and had screwed up as well. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | tokening string errors are annoying common. | Apr 01 04:01 |
| MinceR | not nearly as annoying as a self-appointed emperor trying to force everybody's computer to be remade in his image. | Apr 01 04:01 |
| oiaohm | systemd has triggered a lot of bugs that were just keeping on being ingnored have proper methods provided. | Apr 01 04:02 |
| oiaohm | systemd is not all bad. Really I do wish it had not requried systemd to get a lot of this stuff fixed. | Apr 01 04:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, all hail our savior systemd | Apr 01 04:03 |
| MinceR | put it back into the lab. | Apr 01 04:03 |
| oiaohm | I don't call it our savior. | Apr 01 04:04 |
| oiaohm | I call it something that had to happen. | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | really i do wish it had not required killing off distros by the dozens to find a few bugs | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | no, it didn't | Apr 01 04:04 |
| oiaohm | O yes it did. | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | it happened because ratcrap is driven by fascist megalomaniacs | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | and there are a lot of idiots in charge of projects like debilian | Apr 01 04:05 |
| oiaohm | Most of the distributions that have died due to systemd were undermaintained and were findable full of CVE errors. | Apr 01 04:05 |
| MinceR | debilian used to be doing well | Apr 01 04:05 |
| oiaohm | debian is still doing well over all. | Apr 01 04:05 |
| MinceR | now it's a wreck with no purpose | Apr 01 04:05 |
| MinceR | no, it's not | Apr 01 04:05 |
| oiaohm | Number of debian users is up since systemd. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | they already did 3 point releases to try to fix what systemd fucked up | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | ah, so now number of users determines which OS is good? | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | go the fuck back to windows. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | and take poettering with you. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | so many people use it it must be fucking perfect. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | and hey, it already does things the retarded ratcrap way! | Apr 01 04:06 |
| oiaohm | Also lot of the items debian is having to fix due to systemd also releate to older bugs. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| oiaohm | even the cron one you pulled out. | Apr 01 04:07 |
| MinceR | it even has an automatic mechanism to stuff unrelated services into one process | Apr 01 04:07 |
| MinceR | harry poettering must really admire that | Apr 01 04:07 |
| MinceR | the cron one didn't exist before cgroups | Apr 01 04:08 |
| oiaohm | What do you mean stuff unreleated services into one process. | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svchost.exe | Apr 01 04:08 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: cron one before cgroups would result in lost processes remaining running on the system. | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | which didn't bother anyone | Apr 01 04:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroups just made cron issue in face. | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | unlike that upgrade being aborted and restarted over and over | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | no, forcing cgroups everywhere and trusting it with things it's not fit for broke cron. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: automatic upgrade failures happened randomally with debian with no located cause due to loss processes. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | assuming that every child process of cron must be killed off to shut cron down. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: before systemd. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | and cgroups. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | well, they went from random to every time | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | great! | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | Basically all it did was make that error in face and repeatable. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | all hail the hero lennart poettering | Apr 01 04:10 |
| MinceR | is it too much to ask to do this shit on non-production systems? | Apr 01 04:10 |
| oiaohm | Also libvirt users had put in the complain that cron in libvirt was showing the same error before systemd. | Apr 01 04:10 |
| oiaohm | And had been ignored. | Apr 01 04:10 |
| MinceR | that's probably because libvirt was hacked up by the same gaggle of retards at ratcrap | Apr 01 04:10 |
| MinceR | they're approximating m$ personnel quality | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | Yes cgroup triggered cron failure happened before systemd and was not fixed. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | There are a long list of errors like this. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | Something had to change. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| MinceR | yes, something has to change | Apr 01 04:11 |
| MinceR | either it will be that everyone moves to *BSD | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | going on sweeping bugs under carpet long term is never good. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| MinceR | or it will be that the people in charge of Linux get their shit together | Apr 01 04:12 |
| MinceR | and stop fucking up everyone's production systems | Apr 01 04:12 |
| MinceR | with idiotic experiments | Apr 01 04:12 |
| oiaohm | Please note those failures that were not fixed were stuffing up production systems randomally with sysvinit. | Apr 01 04:12 |
| oiaohm | So something had to give. | Apr 01 04:13 |
| oiaohm | systemd is basically the straw that broke the back of ingnoring faults. | Apr 01 04:13 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully what comes and replaces systemd will have a nice solid footing to build on due to all the bugs systemd is forcing into the open to be fixed. | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | let's stop pretending that sysvinit produced anywhere near the magnitude of the issues systemd still causes, shall we? | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | no, systemd is basically the disease that's destroying GNU/Linux | Apr 01 04:14 |
| oiaohm | I am not pretending | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | and it's threatening to infect other unixes | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | thanks to retards like jordan hubbard | Apr 01 04:14 |
| oiaohm | Systemd turned a lot of random sysvinit issues into I will always happen issues. | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | yay! | Apr 01 04:15 |
| MinceR | that can be done a lot cheaper | Apr 01 04:15 |
| MinceR | just yank out the power cord. | Apr 01 04:15 |
| oiaohm | So the number of new issues in fact caused by systemd are quite low. | Apr 01 04:15 |
| MinceR | that's a lie. | Apr 01 04:15 |
| oiaohm | Its not a lie | Apr 01 04:16 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Apr 01 04:16 |
| oiaohm | have you ever cross reference lxc reported bugs before system against systemd bugs and notice that 95 percent are in fact the same faults. | Apr 01 04:16 |
| MinceR | no, i haven't even used LXC | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | so far, i wasn't forced to use LXC | Apr 01 04:17 |
| oiaohm | Basically majority of systemd faults were reported before first line of systemd was written. | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | yay | Apr 01 04:17 |
| oiaohm | and just ignored. | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | they knew ahead of time that cancerd was going to be shit | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | and they still wrote it | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | and they still forced it over almost all major distros | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | surprise, it really sucks | Apr 01 04:17 |
| oiaohm | Remaining 5 percent mostly line up with issues reported by everyone attempting to use a init system other than sysvinit. | Apr 01 04:18 |
| oiaohm | About 0.5 percent are in fact systemd issues. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| MinceR | another lie | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | No that is not a lie. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | That is the numbers. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | Kinda tells you how bad ignoring faults had got. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | So at some point this was going to break. | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | let's see what systemd people say about the Technology That Will Fix Everything: "cgroup notification is unreliable." | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/743970d2ea6d08aa7c7bff8220f6b7702f2b1db7 | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | if that's not a glowing recommendation, i don't know what is | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | let's go make everything depend on it! | Apr 01 04:20 |
| oiaohm | That is cgroup v1 | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | production systems first! | Apr 01 04:20 |
| oiaohm | Cgroup v2 does not have that issue. | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | where's cgroup v2? | Apr 01 04:21 |
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| oiaohm | And when systemd started lot thought that fault could be worked around. | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | they were sure of it | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | so sure they used political trickery to force other distros to adopt their shit | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | which was banking on a technology which is "unreliable" | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | great fucking job, people! | Apr 01 04:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do you have a clue what causes that fault. | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | i'd really like to see what percentage of Linux (kernel) developers agree with this cgroup cargo cult | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | yes | Apr 01 04:22 |
| oiaohm | In cgroup | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | people being incompetent and megalomaniacal | Apr 01 04:22 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v1 has a particular design fault. | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | breaking other people's stuff because they can't imagine themselves making a mistake, ever | Apr 01 04:23 |
| oiaohm | Someone though it was a good idea for a process to have it threads be in different cgroups with cgroup v1 | Apr 01 04:23 |
| oiaohm | Kinda makes killing tricky for some reason. | Apr 01 04:23 |
| MinceR | again, makes me wonder who the hell is in charge of this show | Apr 01 04:23 |
| MinceR | also, why couldn't they tell us all right from the start | Apr 01 04:24 |
| MinceR | "use *BSD instead, we're all retarded" | Apr 01 04:24 |
| oiaohm | Please note this retarded fault predates systemd. | Apr 01 04:24 |
| oiaohm | You know is bad when linus with cgroup v2 allows userspace interfaces to be broken. | Apr 01 04:24 |
| oiaohm | So no cgroup v1 emulation has to be provided. | Apr 01 04:25 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder why are we relying on cgroups on production systems again? | Apr 01 04:25 |
| MinceR | funny thing is, good old GNU/Linux with sysvinit will be unaffected by this v1/v2 incompatibility | Apr 01 04:26 |
| oiaohm | We do need the functionality of cgroups to say x group of processes should only use x ammount of ram io and cpu and so on. | Apr 01 04:26 |
| MinceR | because it doesn't rely on features that aren't fucking done yet! | Apr 01 04:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroups were never going to get done if no one was using and testing them. | Apr 01 04:26 |
| MinceR | do we need that more than a system that is actually usable for something worthwhile? | Apr 01 04:26 |
| MinceR | i'm not ratcrap's beta tester | Apr 01 04:27 |
| MinceR | maybe if they paid me to do it, i'd be willing | Apr 01 04:27 |
| MinceR | probably not. | Apr 01 04:27 |
| oiaohm | Its functionality that needs to work. docker and many other solutions depend on it as well. | Apr 01 04:27 |
| oiaohm | Really if the functionality does not work correctly it should have been taken out kernel in the first place. | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | not my problem. | Apr 01 04:28 |
| oiaohm | cgroups in time will give better desktop behavour. | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | can you, now that the userland (now called "systemd") can't function without it? | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | (never mind that it also can't function with it either, since it's shit) | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | provided there will be a desktop by the time they're done with it | Apr 01 04:29 |
| oiaohm | ie stuff on users screen in fact getting cpu time stuff in background not linked to the user end up with less time. | Apr 01 04:29 |
| oiaohm | cpu/io miss balance is key to windows and OS X desktop good feel to end users. | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | there's no technology that won't make mandatory gnome3 on mandatory cancerd not suck | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | ever | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | strange, i must not be an end user, then | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | because winblows and OSuX always felt like torture to me | Apr 01 04:30 |
| oiaohm | Windows 2000 workstation you could turn the miss balance on and off. | Apr 01 04:30 |
| MinceR | i guess this mythical end user enjoys randomly losing focus, the usb stack sucking at its job, text rendering that makes spaces randomly sized, and broken maximize functionality | Apr 01 04:30 |
| MinceR | could you also turn off the random focus losing? | Apr 01 04:30 |
| MinceR | could you also turn off the text rendering being an unusable pain in the eye? | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | microsoft text rendering, at its finest: http://i.imgur.com/lwVtQH6.png | Apr 01 04:31 |
| oiaohm | The miss blance means the active window gets more cpu | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | and on top of this, you can get randomly colored fringes too, with "cleartype" | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | now how much would you pay? | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | i can tell you it was _not_ fun filling out text results in suXcel when i couldn't tell where the spaces were in the text i entered! | Apr 01 04:32 |
| MinceR | s/text/test/ | Apr 01 04:32 |
| MinceR | active window getting more cpu is a shitty attempt to work around the winblows task scheduler being an unusable pile of junk | Apr 01 04:32 |
| MinceR | it's the typical case of m$ trying to know better than me what i want | Apr 01 04:33 |
| oiaohm | In fact even with a good scheduler if you attempt to be 100 percent fair you end up in cases where you don't have enough cpu to in fact not stall the interface. | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | it's also one of the reasons i couldn't get music playback without stuttering and skipping constantly on winblows 2000 or xp | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | and GNU/Linux could do that reliably back then | Apr 01 04:33 |
| oiaohm | So a scheduler needs the means to be unfair. | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | even without fucking around with priorities | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | of course, they fucked that up since | Apr 01 04:34 |
| oiaohm | nice in Linux only works 4 years after cgroups are implemented. | Apr 01 04:34 |
| MinceR | it would help to not run tons of bloat in the background | Apr 01 04:34 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it worked back then | Apr 01 04:34 |
| oiaohm | Nice value was not hooked up to anything in the shedulers. | Apr 01 04:34 |
| MinceR | then again, back then the desktop was not a contest of "how could we waste even more resources on even less functionality?" | Apr 01 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people though it worked. | Apr 01 04:35 |
| MinceR | maybe the scheduler wasn't shit back then | Apr 01 04:35 |
| oiaohm | It was an example of the placebo effect. | Apr 01 04:35 |
| MinceR | meanwhile on winblows i had an app which would crash if i gave it too high priority | Apr 01 04:35 |
| MinceR | and it would still not play music continuously in the background | Apr 01 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course | Apr 01 04:36 |
| oiaohm | background 1/3 the cpu access time. | Apr 01 04:36 |
| MinceR | says who? | Apr 01 04:36 |
| oiaohm | That is how windows did it. | Apr 01 04:36 |
| MinceR | which is why windows totally sucked at this | Apr 01 04:36 |
| MinceR | just like it still totally sucks at everything | Apr 01 04:36 |
| oiaohm | Windows of course was not providing users with any real controls over it. | Apr 01 04:37 |
| oiaohm | It was either bias on or bias off. | Apr 01 04:37 |
| MinceR | the great exemplar poettering sets for us | Apr 01 04:37 |
| MinceR | no wonder lendows also totally sucks at everything | Apr 01 04:37 |
| oiaohm | Systemd idea is that you can set the priority per service and in time per application. | Apr 01 04:38 |
| MinceR | no wonder cancerd fucks at every single job it takes up | Apr 01 04:38 |
| oiaohm | to get the system to behave the way you want. | Apr 01 04:38 |
| MinceR | s/fu/su/ | Apr 01 04:38 |
| oiaohm | GUI studies around windows tells us lots of things. Displaying stuff that user can see that action is happening user will wait 20 times longer happily. | Apr 01 04:39 |
| MinceR | ooh, i love studies | Apr 01 04:39 |
| MinceR | like the one crApple did with what must have been people born without brains | Apr 01 04:39 |
| oiaohm | User will think system is fast if the part they are interface with/hearing is functioning right. | Apr 01 04:40 |
| MinceR | who couldn't tell the difference between their fingers | Apr 01 04:40 |
| MinceR | so they had to look to find out which button they're pressing on the mouse | Apr 01 04:40 |
| oiaohm | Apple GUI design is based of giving a 5 year old children a computer without instructions and them being able to use it. | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | thing is, what the user is hearing does not necessarily come from the window that has focus | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | has this occurred to any of the idiots at m$ and crApple? | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | use it, for what? | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | what are the information processing needs of a 5 year old child? | Apr 01 04:41 |
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| MinceR | this is what IT turned into | Apr 01 04:42 |
| MinceR | professionals being forced to use toys designed for 5 year old retarded children | Apr 01 04:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all I did was state what there model is. I did not say I agree with. | Apr 01 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Not retarted children. | Apr 01 04:42 |
| MinceR | it should be pretty obvious by now that their model is the exact opposite of anything that would make sense | Apr 01 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Basically being treated like a 5 year old child | Apr 01 04:42 |
| MinceR | they've managed to fuck up perfectly | Apr 01 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Made sence when Apple was attempt to get into schools | Apr 01 04:44 |
| MinceR | so why do i get alleged adults push crApple's toys for me to use? | Apr 01 04:44 |
| oiaohm | The fact apple has not revisited and extend model causes a very be problem. | Apr 01 04:44 |
| MinceR | what sense does that make? | Apr 01 04:44 |
| oiaohm | The problem with interface design models is most of them make sense to particular markets. | Apr 01 04:46 |
| MinceR | also, why do tools built for adults to work with have to be warped into an imitation of what crApple designed for 5 year old children? | Apr 01 04:46 |
| oiaohm | 5 year old child model makes sense when you are attempt to sell entry level computers. | Apr 01 04:46 |
| oiaohm | as a person first computer. | Apr 01 04:46 |
| MinceR | again, what are the information processing needs of a 5 year old child? | Apr 01 04:46 |
| oiaohm | Quite a lot when you think the kids they were using were in early prep school and in fact learning to read already. | Apr 01 04:47 |
| oiaohm | They did not choose your adverage 5 year old child either. | Apr 01 04:48 |
| MinceR | at what age will they learn to tell their index finger from their middle finger? | Apr 01 04:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hand mechanics with multi dexterity 6-7 | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | so, does crApple have a mouse designed for 7 year old children too? | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | or are they expected to use the one designed for 5 year olds until they die? | Apr 01 04:51 |
| oiaohm | They model on 5 year old so it a single button. | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | i know | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | problem is, most computer users are a bit older than that | Apr 01 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Multi button is if you design for 7-8 | Apr 01 04:52 |
| MinceR | but try to make the average m$/crApple/ratcrap cultist understand that | Apr 01 04:52 |
| oiaohm | 6-7 is when multi dexterity starts not in fact having lots of strength at doing it. | Apr 01 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Apple computers do in fact support multi button mice just apple does not sell any. | Apr 01 04:53 |
| oiaohm | Mostly because apple thinks it would be too confusing to explain this age stuff in shops. | Apr 01 04:53 |
| MinceR | and the GUI (which is allegedly the selling point of their atrocious OS-es) doesn't support more | Apr 01 04:54 |
| MinceR | remember, gnome is copying that GUI now, and kde is copying whatever gnome is doing | Apr 01 04:54 |
| MinceR | yeah, being able to tell one's index finger from one's middle finger is confusing | Apr 01 04:54 |
| MinceR | i'm quite happy to show them which the middle finger is, though | Apr 01 04:55 |
| oiaohm | For a 5 year old with the ways the tendons in hand are its kinda hard to move those fingers allown. | Apr 01 04:55 |
| oiaohm | As we get older we forget that as our hands grew particular problems went away. | Apr 01 04:55 |
| oiaohm | So for young children we really do need like the apple interface. | Apr 01 04:56 |
| oiaohm | Ie single button mouse. | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | i propose we also adapt the keyboard to accommodate for this issue | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | 1-button keyboard | Apr 01 04:56 |
| oiaohm | As we get older multi button mouse comes useable. | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | we could call it the "DERP" key | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | not that the typical targeted user could read the label, of course | Apr 01 04:57 |
| oiaohm | A button on the apple keyboard is used for the second mouse button in fact. | Apr 01 04:57 |
| oiaohm | So 2 hand operation. | Apr 01 04:57 |
| MinceR | whoop de do | Apr 01 04:58 |
| oiaohm | So the apple interface for under 7 makes design sense. | Apr 01 04:58 |
| oiaohm | us over 7 no so much. | Apr 01 04:58 |
| MinceR | so, how can i convince crApple cultists that the stuff they advertise all day and all night is for children under the age of 7? | Apr 01 04:58 |
| oiaohm | I don't know. | Apr 01 04:59 |
| oiaohm | I have even put the steven jobs research data on it in front of them and it does not work. | Apr 01 04:59 |
| MinceR | and how can i stop poettering from shitting into systems used by people over the age of 7? | Apr 01 04:59 |
| oiaohm | Before poettering systems were in a mess. Work to clean up and fix alsa and dbus come from the messes he has caused. | Apr 01 05:00 |
| MinceR | wrong | Apr 01 05:01 |
| MinceR | before poettering, we had working unixes | Apr 01 05:01 |
| oiaohm | Not wrong. | Apr 01 05:01 |
| MinceR | now we have a huge train wreck. | Apr 01 05:01 |
| oiaohm | Train started going off rails before poettering got mixed up with Linux. | Apr 01 05:01 |
| MinceR | and he put nitro on | Apr 01 05:02 |
| oiaohm | The question is what will be the fastest way back on to the rails properly. | Apr 01 05:02 |
| MinceR | we kick out all the retards and start over? | Apr 01 05:02 |
| oiaohm | Maybe to get some of the retards out we need poettering to do more. | Apr 01 05:02 |
| MinceR | what will we use in the meantime? | Apr 01 05:03 |
| oiaohm | Like without systemd cgroup v1 would be still going forwards becoming a bigger and bigger mess. | Apr 01 05:03 |
| MinceR | System V? | Apr 01 05:03 |
| MinceR | an abacus? | Apr 01 05:03 |
| MinceR | no, without systemd we wouldn't be using cgroups except for testing and experiments | Apr 01 05:04 |
| oiaohm | and still having IO memory.... and stack of other issues. cgroup was started to address a very particular set of problems then extend in bad directions. | Apr 01 05:04 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 is return to core objectives and stick only to core objectives to fix the set of problems. | Apr 01 05:05 |
| MinceR | i still don't see how this required turning 9 out of 11 distributions into wreckage | Apr 01 05:06 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_reception | Apr 01 05:06 |
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| oiaohm | Please note gentoo with openrc was having nightmares with items not working correctly in cgroups as well. | Apr 01 05:09 |
| MinceR | iirc openrc works fine without cgroups | Apr 01 05:10 |
| oiaohm | That is the issue. | Apr 01 05:10 |
| MinceR | no, that's a non-issue | Apr 01 05:10 |
| MinceR | it's the opposite of an issue | Apr 01 05:10 |
| oiaohm | since openrc would work find without cgroups when ever openrc had a issue from cgroups upstream projects just said run without cgroups and did not address problem. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | the issue is cancerd requiring cgroups despite its own developers being aware of cgroups being unreliable. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | yeah, production systems that work are such a bummer | Apr 01 05:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd is basically a sledge hammer. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | some people just want to watch the world burn. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | who needs a sledge hammer in the data center? | Apr 01 05:12 |
| oiaohm | When you are trying to get the most work load per system does end up using cgroups. | Apr 01 05:12 |
| oiaohm | That is where docker and other horibles come from depending on cgroups. | Apr 01 05:12 |
| MinceR | workload or just useless load from cancerd? | Apr 01 05:13 |
| MinceR | like this: http://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.html | Apr 01 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insane | Apr 01 05:13 | |
| MinceR | ("why do you hate blind people?") | Apr 01 05:13 |
| oiaohm | datacentres were using cgroups with sysvinit using lxc and other thigns before systemd and openrc | Apr 01 05:13 |
| MinceR | were they forced to rely on unreliable cgroups and unfinished lxc? | Apr 01 05:14 |
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| MinceR | even if i wanted to use a pc for heating, there's the windows i was forced to buy along with it | Apr 01 05:15 |
| MinceR | there's no need for ratcrap to develop such things | Apr 01 05:15 |
| MinceR | s/for heating/purely &/ | Apr 01 05:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically the were forced attempt to get max load per machine to be using unreliable cgroups and unfinished Lxc and having their bugs ignored. | Apr 01 05:16 |
| MinceR | and this is their revenge? | Apr 01 05:16 |
| oiaohm | Yes systemd is basically their revenge. | Apr 01 05:17 |
| MinceR | what did i do to offend them? | Apr 01 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Mostly by saying cgroups was not important when to them it critical so causing there bugs to go back burner all the time. | Apr 01 05:18 |
| oiaohm | packagekitd is in fact annoying one this is running a graphical application checking if system is upto date causes that to run in background all the time. | Apr 01 05:18 |
| MinceR | i didn't say anything about cgroups back then | Apr 01 05:19 |
| MinceR | so why did they have to destroy the distro i used to rely on? | Apr 01 05:19 |
| oiaohm | They rely on lot of the same distributions you use. | Apr 01 05:19 |
| oiaohm | And they want them fixed. | Apr 01 05:19 |
| oiaohm | Worse those data centers pay the wages of a lot of the maintainers. | Apr 01 05:20 |
| oiaohm | So if it was not systemd it was going to be something. | Apr 01 05:21 |
| MinceR | i don't see how forcing these distros to turn into winblows imitations helps fix anything | Apr 01 05:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd as I have told you is more like solaris and windows. | Apr 01 05:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the data centre guys love solaris for the way it works. | Apr 01 05:22 |
| MinceR | when did they get their lobotomy? | Apr 01 05:22 |
| MinceR | or were they born without a brain? | Apr 01 05:22 |
| oiaohm | For getting high utilisation solaris is in fact good. Windows in fact is bad. | Apr 01 05:23 |
| oiaohm | So there are key differences in systemd that make it closer to solaris than Windows. | Apr 01 05:23 |
| MinceR | i'm sure windows can make the cpu spin at 100% too | Apr 01 05:24 |
| MinceR | especially if it invites some of its malware friends in | Apr 01 05:24 |
| oiaohm | The ablity to share between services cpu /io time using zones is what zolaris has. | Apr 01 05:24 |
| oiaohm | cgroups in systemd is about replicating that. | Apr 01 05:24 |
| MinceR | are zones broken too? | Apr 01 05:24 |
| oiaohm | zones in fact are closer to cgroup v2 and function correctly. | Apr 01 05:25 |
| MinceR | then they haven't done a good job replicating them, have they? | Apr 01 05:25 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v1 you would call a drunk copy of zones. | Apr 01 05:25 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 somewhere near sober copy of zones. | Apr 01 05:26 |
| MinceR | does slowlaris ship with a GUI that has client-side decorations too? | Apr 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | It has at different times. | Apr 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | solaris was first to include kernel mode setting. | Apr 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Even before Windows had it. | Apr 01 05:28 |
| MinceR | i'm glad i'm not running slowlaris | Apr 01 05:28 |
| oiaohm | solaris was also first to include patching kernel while running. | Apr 01 05:28 |
| oiaohm | So solaris was known for monster uptimes while away been upto date. | Apr 01 05:29 |
| oiaohm | away/always | Apr 01 05:29 |
| oiaohm | So there are quite a few good things we can copy from solaris. | Apr 01 05:29 |
| MinceR | and yet we insist on copying the bad things | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly. | Apr 01 05:30 |
| MinceR | makes me thinking we're copying windows after all | Apr 01 05:30 |
| MinceR | since there are no good things in windows | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | attempt to copy zones is a good idea. | Apr 01 05:30 |
| MinceR | that way it's no wonder we're only getting broken shit | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | the copy being broken design not such a good idea. | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the ideas of systemd is the right ones. Just implementation kernel and userspace side highly lacking. | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | like implementing everything in a huge unmaintainable hairball | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | or like forcing binary logging with an iron fist | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | so fucking great | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | and then there's the rest of lendows | Apr 01 05:32 |
| MinceR | kdbus, gnome3, networkmanager, udisks, ... | Apr 01 05:32 |
| oiaohm | networkmanager is redhat but systemd lead making networkd is because he does not exactly trust the design of that. | Apr 01 05:33 |
| MinceR | i'm sure it's about as unreliable | Apr 01 05:34 |
| MinceR | but this time the user doesn't get a choice | Apr 01 05:34 |
| oiaohm | dbus something has to happen to that. Existence is because Linux and most Unix systems lack a kernel based equal to a com system. | Apr 01 05:34 |
| MinceR | and which other company is known for not giving users a choice? | Apr 01 05:34 |
| MinceR | why does it have to be kernel-based? | Apr 01 05:35 |
| oiaohm | If it a kernel based IPC time slice stealing can be done. | Apr 01 05:35 |
| MinceR | so what? | Apr 01 05:35 |
| oiaohm | do you know what time slice stealing it. | Apr 01 05:36 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 01 05:36 |
| MinceR | it's relevant when you're implementing syscalls in servers and call them via IPC | Apr 01 05:36 |
| MinceR | but IPC doesn't have to be RPC | Apr 01 05:36 |
| oiaohm | So you do a dbus call at monent this has to trigger dbus service to fire up to route on. | Apr 01 05:37 |
| oiaohm | The current IPC in Linux only allows a time slice steal once. | Apr 01 05:37 |
| oiaohm | So you get to dbus service then cannot pass steal onto the part processing applications request. | Apr 01 05:37 |
| oiaohm | So dbus cannot work effectively with current kernel IPC offerings. | Apr 01 05:38 |
| oiaohm | Basically dbus needs a replacement/modification. | Apr 01 05:39 |
| MinceR | dbus has worse issues | Apr 01 05:39 |
| MinceR | like this windows-like obsession with rebooting | Apr 01 05:39 |
| MinceR | slowlaris didn't have that, did it? | Apr 01 05:39 |
| oiaohm | solaris for SMF added a multi connect IPC to kernel. | Apr 01 05:40 |
| oiaohm | Reason why SMF cannot be ported to Linux. | Apr 01 05:40 |
| MinceR | SMF also eventually put everything and the kitchensink in pid1, didn't it? | Apr 01 05:40 |
| MinceR | maybe not cancerd levels, but at least launchd levels | Apr 01 05:41 |
| oiaohm | SMF did at first then undid it. | Apr 01 05:41 |
| oiaohm | also undid it after they had bus system in kernel. | Apr 01 05:41 |
| oiaohm | The ablity to restart most of the dbus system if it follows SMF will come from being able to record in kernel that it meant to be connected. | Apr 01 05:42 |
| oiaohm | it being the sub applications. | Apr 01 05:42 |
| MinceR | why can't you time slice stealing with user-mode IPC? what's the harm in letting a process give up the rest of its time slice and hand it over to another process? | Apr 01 05:42 |
| MinceR | unless we have a process spawning children that give up their slices to the original process all the time | Apr 01 05:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is the posix defined IPC only allow it jump once. | Apr 01 05:43 |
| MinceR | not sure how that's worse than just having the child processes hog the cpu, though | Apr 01 05:43 |
| oiaohm | From your process to dbus that is the end. | Apr 01 05:43 |
| MinceR | why can't dbus do it to the next process? | Apr 01 05:44 |
| oiaohm | when the dbus service sends message on to what should be processing you cannot jump again. | Apr 01 05:44 |
| MinceR | (with the rest of my process's slice, i guess) | Apr 01 05:44 |
| oiaohm | posix define IPC says if you attempt to steal again this triggers end of process slice and next process is started in the sheduler list of processes. | Apr 01 05:44 |
| oiaohm | This causes dbus to horiblely stall a lot. | Apr 01 05:45 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 01 05:45 |
| MinceR | could work with a simple extension | Apr 01 05:45 |
| MinceR | no need to bloat the kernel for this | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | also dbus support multi casing of messages. | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | mixed with unicasting. | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | basically it does not properly match any of the existing IPC either. | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | reason why they tried kdbus and now are doing bus1. | Apr 01 05:47 |
| MinceR | why don't they just use 9P? | Apr 01 05:47 |
| oiaohm | Only 9p in Linux kernel is https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/9p.txt yes the file system. 9p message bus system would be almost a perfect match for what dbus needs but Linux kernel does not have that. | Apr 01 05:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: A key type of IPC is not kernel provided in Linux. | Apr 01 05:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 01 05:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder what plan9port uses for IPC | Apr 01 05:50 |
| MinceR | probably a userspace daemon | Apr 01 05:50 |
| oiaohm | and that will have all the same trouble dbus has. | Apr 01 05:50 |
| oiaohm | This is why we have need something like systemd pushing these sections so hopefully one day they get properly fixed. | Apr 01 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Basically if no systemd we need something else to cause equal size mess. | Apr 01 05:52 |
| MinceR | if there will be anyone left to use the result | Apr 01 05:52 |
| MinceR | cancerd is breaking applications, taking over stuff unrelated to cgroups and making users move to *BSD more than contributing to anything getting fixed | Apr 01 05:52 |
| oiaohm | If these issues were not fixed also risked not having anyone left would have remained. | Apr 01 05:53 |
| MinceR | (and of course that's all assuming we'll even be allowed to boot an OS of our choice in the future) | Apr 01 05:53 |
| oiaohm | People were looking at BSD stuff for stablity before systemd as well. | Apr 01 05:53 |
| MinceR | where would have they gone then? | Apr 01 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically outcome would not have been much different just being slower. | Apr 01 05:54 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Apr 01 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Now if the issues get fixed system will be better. | Apr 01 05:54 |
| MinceR | and again, cancerd taking over stuff that has nothing to do with process management was not required either way | Apr 01 05:54 |
| MinceR | only if cancerd is not mandatory in that "fixed" system | Apr 01 05:55 |
| oiaohm | I don't see systemd ending up mandatory in the end. | Apr 01 05:55 |
| oiaohm | Like the fixes to cgroupv2 allows applications to use syscalls instead of using systemd interfaces to control cgroups even when contained. | Apr 01 05:56 |
| oiaohm | Same interfaces inside docker container or systemd or any other cgroup/namespace solution. | Apr 01 05:56 |
| MinceR | that won't remove systemd-dependent APIs everywhere | Apr 01 05:56 |
| MinceR | like this timedated and hostnamed bullshit | Apr 01 05:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname hostnamed comes from this. | Apr 01 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Features/BetterHostname - FedoraProject | Apr 01 06:01 | |
| MinceR | i don't care where it comes from, it has to die | Apr 01 06:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please remember hostname is settable by dhcpd | Apr 01 06:02 |
| MinceR | shitty APIs made up by fascist megalomaniacs for political reasons belong in winblows, not unix. | Apr 01 06:02 |
| oiaohm | there are reasons why userspace needs to be able to look up hostname stored in memory not that written on disc. | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | if only we had a command that did that | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | we could call it 'hostname' | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | oh look, it exists | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | that's the unix way | Apr 01 06:04 |
| MinceR | not adding an interface in a shitty IPC daemon that came from our nightmares | Apr 01 06:04 |
| oiaohm | hostname command does not cover the multi naming network standard has allowed. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | standards have allowed. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| MinceR | what would that be? | Apr 01 06:05 |
| MinceR | multiple hostnames for a single host? | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes multi hostnames for a single host is in fact legal. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| MinceR | or a hostname that's actually a h.264 video with sound? | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | by network standards. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Assigned multi ways. | Apr 01 06:06 |
| MinceR | i doubt there's any unix program that's designed to handle multiple hostnames as the name of the computer | Apr 01 06:06 |
| oiaohm | https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed/ | Apr 01 06:06 |
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| MinceR | DNS is irrelevant for this purpose | Apr 01 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Its in the documentation. | Apr 01 06:06 |
| MinceR | of course it's in the "documentation" poettering wrote | Apr 01 06:06 |
| MinceR | one machine calling itself several names is still stupid | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | No poettering did not write this. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Hostname what is dhcp set name. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| MinceR | what are you going to put in a filename to disambiguate hosts? | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | StaticHostname what you set in /etc/hostname or what ever you like locally restricted in chars. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| MinceR | i'm not really sold on having dhcp change my hostname either. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| MinceR | so, that's the hostname | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Then you have PrettyHostname that is allowed to use full unicode chars. | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | let's stop calling things that are not hostnames "the hostname" | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | why the fuck? | Apr 01 06:08 |
| oiaohm | These are all things standards call hostname | Apr 01 06:08 |
| oiaohm | networking standard bodys need to be shot. | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | do i want to use a hex dump to find out which of the two hostnames i see has the cyrillic o and which has the latin o? | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | do i want to use a hex dump to find out if there are invisible characters in the name of my computer? | Apr 01 06:09 |
| oiaohm | That is what is written into the standards. | Apr 01 06:09 |
| MinceR | just so some idiot can put an accented character in his "PrettyHostname"? | Apr 01 06:09 |
| MinceR | what is this, My Little Pony? | Apr 01 06:09 |
| MinceR | we should stop letting people on drugs write "standards" | Apr 01 06:10 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed/hostname1 is basically created because insane people wrote standards. | Apr 01 06:10 |
| MinceR | and why do gnome and kde depend on it? | Apr 01 06:11 |
| MinceR | because insane people also design DEs? | Apr 01 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Because at times you need to send your PrettyHostname or you will not get answer. | Apr 01 06:11 |
| MinceR | the whole reason we have an OS standard that is actually usable is that some people realized you shouldn't put everything you could possibly conceive into the design, but make it minimal | Apr 01 06:12 |
| oiaohm | Like windows proxies. | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | and now we get this bullshit | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | 1. windows proxies need to die in a fire | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | 2. then whatever is talking to the windows proxies should deal with their madness | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | not hostname | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | not the DE | Apr 01 06:12 |
| oiaohm | IconName and Chassis values as well. | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | and especially not every single application that ever runs on the machine | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | protocols that use PrettyName, IconName and Chassis to identify a host should not be used, ever | Apr 01 06:13 |
| oiaohm | at times you have to send the hostname the dhcpd server sent to your as well. | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | they should be locked up with the deranged idiots that came up with them | Apr 01 06:13 |
| oiaohm | So you need at least 2 hostnames | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | that's what the dhcp client daemon does | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | the dhcp client daemon does not need to ask some random service "gee, what name did the dhcp server said i had?" | Apr 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | What if you have more than 1 network card talking to more than 1 dhcpd server. | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | then i have more than 1 dhcp client daemons running, most likely | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | one for each card | Apr 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | hostname1 protocol is not fully complete really. | Apr 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | But its a good start. | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | well, i can see how it could not be fully complete | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | because there are these maniac idiots running free coming up with pointless extensions | Apr 01 06:15 |
| MinceR | have all the insane asylums been shut down? | Apr 01 06:15 |
| oiaohm | dynamic dns created a lot of this as well. | Apr 01 06:15 |
| MinceR | wow, this industry is full of shit | Apr 01 06:15 |
| MinceR | see, this is why only unix variants can be used to get anything done whatsoever | Apr 01 06:16 |
| MinceR | because everything else is designed on the principle of "what pointless bullshit could i tack on this that it does not yet have?" | Apr 01 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Unix variants have historically include means to talk pointless bullshit when required. | Apr 01 06:17 |
| MinceR | they can't come up with a sane kernel design yet they're already plotting how many names, colors, sounds and scents will have to be used to identify the host it's running on! | Apr 01 06:17 |
| MinceR | oh, forgot "tastes" | Apr 01 06:17 |
| MinceR | you would otherwise confuse these two computers here because i can't come up with 2 different names! | Apr 01 06:18 |
| MinceR | the point is, it should not ever be required | Apr 01 06:18 |
| oiaohm | dhcpd hostname setting comes from the fact users will connect two computers of exactly the same name. | Apr 01 06:18 |
| MinceR | people who come up with this shit are a threat to themselves and to everyone else | Apr 01 06:18 |
| MinceR | and the dhcp server can't remember their hardware addresses? | Apr 01 06:19 |
| MinceR | those are unique, you know... | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | protocols don't use hardware addresses | Apr 01 06:19 |
| MinceR | oh really | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Most don't. | Apr 01 06:19 |
| MinceR | when did ethernet become broadcast-only? | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Like smb is using a name to find hardware addresses. | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Same with many others. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| MinceR | smb is broken, pointless bullshit that should not ever be used | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | dns name set value. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | mdns name. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| MinceR | mdns should also burn in hell. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | list goes on and on the ways we use hostnames to find way around. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | Yep mdns is where pretty and iconname and chassis comes from. | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | so now we pretend that the automatically generated garbage the dhcp server handed to us because we couldn't be bothered to give our host a unique name is a "name"? | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | one that we'll remember and use? | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, fuck mdns in hell. | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | along with avahi | Apr 01 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Funny at one business I found 10 laptops with the hostname laptop | Apr 01 06:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, well, allegedly-adult humans should stop being retarded | Apr 01 06:22 |
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| oiaohm | You know you are working on a adult network when everything is named after sex toys. Yes unique names but boy you don't want to have to say them over the phone. | Apr 01 06:23 |
| MinceR | actually that's fine | Apr 01 06:24 |
| MinceR | unique names that are not a pain to remember or communicate | Apr 01 06:24 |
| MinceR | unlike the supposedly unicode line noise mdns uses | Apr 01 06:24 |
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| MinceR | or the arbitrarily large set of names hostname* keeps in mind, which it acquired from nobody knows where | Apr 01 06:25 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed thing is basically not a systemd caused problem. | Apr 01 06:25 |
| MinceR | because you must be able to list the titles and names of a "modern" system for at least a day long | Apr 01 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Its the insane guys written standards requiring stuff written to cope with it. | Apr 01 06:25 |
| MinceR | that's no reason to put it everywhere | Apr 01 06:25 |
| MinceR | put it in its own daemon, keeperofnamesforsystemsdesignedbyretardedimbecilesd | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | have it not depend on what has pid1 | Apr 01 06:26 |
| oiaohm | basically that is what hostnamed is. | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | have it an _optional_ dependency at most for DEs | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | no, that's not what systemd-hostnamed is | Apr 01 06:26 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed only dependancy is dbus. | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | have it some sane API (not dbus) | Apr 01 06:26 |
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| MinceR | and let it remember what the dhcp server said my computer smelled like. | Apr 01 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Basically hostnamed your biggest issue is dbus | Apr 01 06:27 |
| MinceR | maybe i would have more issues if i cared to know it better | Apr 01 06:27 |
| MinceR | but i don't want to | Apr 01 06:27 |
| MinceR | i don't even use mdns, i don't allow avahi to even run | Apr 01 06:28 |
| oiaohm | timedated starts off out side systemd as well. | Apr 01 06:29 |
| MinceR | because points in time also have multiple names? | Apr 01 06:29 |
| oiaohm | Mostly about allowing graphical to alter time and date without having user sudo and the like. | Apr 01 06:29 |
| MinceR | what if i don't need a GUI to set my clock? | Apr 01 06:29 |
| MinceR | because i'm not retarded? | Apr 01 06:30 |
| oiaohm | timedated and hostnamed both should techically only be run on demard by dbus. | Apr 01 06:30 |
| MinceR | as for "without having user sudo and the like", fuck polkit in hell | Apr 01 06:30 |
| MinceR | along with its stupid built-in javascript interpreter. | Apr 01 06:30 |
| oiaohm | built in javascript what are you refering to. | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | polkit | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | also known as policykit | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | also known as "when did i ask for this gaping security hole to exist on my server?" | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | because sudo was too easy to manager | Apr 01 06:32 |
| MinceR | s/r$// | Apr 01 06:33 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/03/31/the-woman-punisher-donald-trumps-new-movie | Apr 01 06:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I had forgot that evil because I normally don't want to think about it. Javascript in polkit was an attempt to include the complexity of selinux without being too much of a nightmare. | Apr 01 06:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's an excuse for everything | Apr 01 06:36 |
| MinceR | also, implying that the complexity of selinux was a good thing | Apr 01 06:36 |
| MinceR | these guys really do worship "Beautiful Complexity", don't they? | Apr 01 06:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really I wish it would go away replaced by cython | Apr 01 06:37 |
| oiaohm | Basically write rules complie into dll and be done. | Apr 01 06:37 |
| oiaohm | Not like polkit really need an interpeter. | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | i like the openbsd approach better | Apr 01 06:38 |
| oiaohm | And that is. | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | instead of making up a huge ruleset about what our programs are allowed to do, remove the crap that does things that shouldn't be done in the first place | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | much simpler -> lot fewer opportunities for bugs | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | iirc there were even exploits made possible by MAC systems already | Apr 01 06:39 |
| oiaohm | With polkit allowing for user actions to be time limited and other things requires some complexity. | Apr 01 06:39 |
| MinceR | did i ever ask for user actions to be time limited? | Apr 01 06:39 |
| oiaohm | Its covering every case. | Apr 01 06:40 |
| oiaohm | covering every case simple solution is built a block. | Apr 01 06:40 |
| MinceR | it's 2016, almost everyone walks around with a computer in their pocket, can we please stop pretending that multiseat desktops and giving users time slots are important use cases? | Apr 01 06:40 |
| MinceR | we had such an era and somehow we survived without polkit | Apr 01 06:40 |
| oiaohm | Business still like termianl services for critical records. | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | let's stop breaking the systems of today for the needs of the last decade! | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | yes, and which of those uses polkit? | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | (hint: polkit didn't even exist when those were implemented and first used) | Apr 01 06:41 |
| oiaohm | computer in pocket does not mean you want to tranfer key business files to it. So you use it as a thin client to see those documents. | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'll use the laptop for that | Apr 01 06:42 |
| MinceR | at least until i get a DragonBox Pyra | Apr 01 06:42 |
| MinceR | and that has nothing to do with the size of the device | Apr 01 06:42 |
| oiaohm | Again laptop may only be sent image of document not the document if it form of secure. | Apr 01 06:42 |
| MinceR | and everything to do with the way they completely fucked up mobile devices | Apr 01 06:42 |
| oiaohm | So there is still a thin-client usage case. | Apr 01 06:42 |
| oiaohm | and that usage case is not going away. | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure my laptop is more secure than any winblows or lendows machine | Apr 01 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Business have a lot of stolen laptops. | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | mainly because it doesn't run every bit of bullshit some idiot thought could come in handy someday | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | no laptop in my trust was ever stolen | Apr 01 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Or stupidly lost. | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | also, there's such a thing as "full disk encryption" | Apr 01 06:43 |
| oiaohm | full disk encryption does not help you if it stolen unlocked. | Apr 01 06:44 |
| MinceR | they'd have to rob me to get it from me unlocked | Apr 01 06:44 |
| oiaohm | As I say there is a usage case for thin-clients and its never going to disappear. | Apr 01 06:44 |
| oiaohm | Now can for usage cases that are not thin-clients could it be made better I would absolutely agree. | Apr 01 06:45 |
| MinceR | yes there is | Apr 01 06:45 |
| MinceR | but the clients still need to be secure | Apr 01 06:45 |
| MinceR | also, if a business can afford all its employees use laptops, then it can also afford all its employees use thin clients | Apr 01 06:46 |
| MinceR | for example, the laptops themselves | Apr 01 06:46 |
| oiaohm | multi user per server remains while thin-client usage remains. | Apr 01 06:46 |
| MinceR | and if every user has their own thin client device, there's no need to fuck around with time slots and multihead desktops | Apr 01 06:46 |
| MinceR | servers can handle the load | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | easily | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | and if they can't, the solution is not "let's restrict when our employees are allowed to do actual work during their work hours!" | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | because that would be catastrophically stupid | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | also, in that case, none of the multiseat issues apply | Apr 01 06:48 |
| oiaohm | time locking some things on polkit makes sense in a multiseat. So you don't want someone doing a server reboot without approve in middle of work hours. | Apr 01 06:49 |
| MinceR | i don't want anyone who's not a sysadmin doing a server reboot, period | Apr 01 06:49 |
| MinceR | sysadmins are expected to have root access and to know when work hours are | Apr 01 06:49 |
| oiaohm | reboot was only one example. | Apr 01 06:50 |
| oiaohm | But there are many more and it why polkit was given so much flex. | Apr 01 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Using a JIT for the flex I really don't agree with. | Apr 01 06:50 |
| MinceR | multiseat does not apply because no ordinary users are allowed even near the console of the servers; and they all have one machine the console of which is assigned to them at all times | Apr 01 06:51 |
| oiaohm | Not like you should be changing the polkit rules every 5 mins. | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | yes, there are always excuses | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | forcing polkit on everyone who has no such needs, on the other hand, is inexcusable | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | the same thing applies for the rest of the lendows components | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | like logind | Apr 01 06:51 |
| oiaohm | polkit with dbus is also about reduce amount of code with running privilage. | Apr 01 06:52 |
| oiaohm | logind is about stopping every DE on Linux having it own individual session management server that is incompadible with each other. | Apr 01 06:52 |
| MinceR | i'm not seeing that | Apr 01 06:52 |
| MinceR | polkit is running as root | Apr 01 06:52 |
| MinceR | they wanted dbus to run not merely as root, but in fucking ring 0 | Apr 01 06:53 |
| oiaohm | If you read polkit you documentation will see that distributions have screwed it up. | Apr 01 06:53 |
| MinceR | no, logind is about making every DE on Linux require systemd | Apr 01 06:53 |
| oiaohm | polkit is in fact coded not to need privilage. | Apr 01 06:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is meant to be a polkit user | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | looks like the amount of code is being increased | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | and the privilege code runs with is also being increased | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | this is the opposite of what should be happening | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: tell debian maintainers that. | Apr 01 06:54 |
| oiaohm | Remember what I said about Linux being full of ignored bugs. | Apr 01 06:56 |
| oiaohm | If polkit and dbus are working correctly the amount of high privilage code should be reduced. | Apr 01 06:56 |
| oiaohm | even logind design is was about reducing that. | Apr 01 06:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is a long way to go to get Linux clean and secure as the design of it parts allow. | Apr 01 06:57 |
| MinceR | and it's going in the other direction | Apr 01 06:57 |
| oiaohm | In places yes. | Apr 01 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Fixing up namespaces and cgroups is going in kind of a correct direction. | Apr 01 06:58 |
| MinceR | systemd is not, though | Apr 01 06:58 |
| MinceR | and neither is kdbus | Apr 01 06:58 |
| oiaohm | kdbus is dead. | Apr 01 06:58 |
| MinceR | and if bus1 ends up "we try kdbus again and see if anyone notices", then neither is that | Apr 01 06:58 |
| oiaohm | systemd wrapping services in namespace and cgroups to provide highest default secuirty level without LSM active is a path in the correct direction. | Apr 01 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Of course what ever init system replaces systemd you would want it to keep that. | Apr 01 07:00 |
| MinceR | except for the huge hairball that's never been fully audited but is changing quickly, running as root | Apr 01 07:00 |
| MinceR | and part of it in a way that if it crashes, it may well take the rest of the system down with itself | Apr 01 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Note I said sections are going in the right direction. | Apr 01 07:01 |
| oiaohm | Not that everything is. | Apr 01 07:01 |
| MinceR | the users who are switching to openbsd? :> | Apr 01 07:01 |
| oiaohm | More presure to audit Linux properly when they do. | Apr 01 07:01 |
| MinceR | audit would be much easier if we didn't have these enormous hairballs trying to do everything | Apr 01 07:02 |
| oiaohm | The stuff that did systemd job before systemd was not properly audited either. | Apr 01 07:02 |
| MinceR | but it would have been much easier to audit | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | as it was far smaller | Apr 01 07:03 |
| oiaohm | The one thing about openbsd has been the mandatory audit process. | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | and tried to do a lot less | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | and you can see they're not fond of adding bloat | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | because it would make audit much more costly | Apr 01 07:03 |
| oiaohm | openbsd got rid of sysvinit very quickly. | Apr 01 07:03 |
| oiaohm | and replaced it. | Apr 01 07:04 |
| MinceR | yet their init is not that different in design, afaik | Apr 01 07:04 |
| MinceR | as for the rc, there's at least 1 GNU/Linux distro that already uses BSD-style rc scripts | Apr 01 07:04 |
| oiaohm | It different enough that it works on a BSD kernel properly. | Apr 01 07:04 |
| oiaohm | Using bsd init system on Linux kernel results in issues like sysvinit suffers from on Linux. | Apr 01 07:05 |
| oiaohm | Init system does need to match how kernel functions. | Apr 01 07:05 |
| MinceR | yes, rarely occurring unlikely issues that only happen if the sysadmin is doing something or the system is booting (as services don't get started or stopped ad hoc) | Apr 01 07:07 |
| MinceR | and are easy to find and fix | Apr 01 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Please remember bsd init on a BSD kernel a stack of issues just don't happen ever. | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | hm, actually iirc bsd rc makes killing services safer | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | at least one just assumes you can kill processes by name, since you're not supposed to run more than one of them | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | one implementation i saw, anyway | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | instead of pid files | Apr 01 07:09 |
| oiaohm | rarely occurring unlikely issues has been excuse not to fix linux issues. | Apr 01 07:09 |
| MinceR | still preferable to an impossible to understand monstrosity that can fuck up big time at any moment | Apr 01 07:09 |
| MinceR | (in part because it likes respawning services that die) | Apr 01 07:10 |
| oiaohm | If you spend some time on BSD systems you will lean that sysvinit systems that Linux was not that good. Because you will have excussed thing as rare that should not happen at all. | Apr 01 07:13 |
| oiaohm | So the Linux init system need to die. | Apr 01 07:13 |
| oiaohm | I don't think systemd is the right replacement but at least it change. | Apr 01 07:13 |
| oiaohm | personally on design I think openrc is more the right replacement. | Apr 01 07:14 |
| MinceR | there's no system that will never make errors | Apr 01 07:15 |
| MinceR | consider the effect of cosmic rays on RAM and CPU components, for example | Apr 01 07:15 |
| MinceR | or hash-based deduplication in RAM and on disk, vs. hash collisions | Apr 01 07:15 |
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| MinceR | btw, what happens if the cgroup counter wraps around? | Apr 01 07:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheLOTNET/status/715788988544598017 | Apr 01 08:53 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75 | Apr 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheLOTNET/status/715788988544598017 | Apr 01 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheLOTNET: Delighted to welcome @schestowitz to IAM. Roy is the editor of our new and very neutral publication on software patents. | Apr 01 08:54 | |
| schestowitz | at least representative to some degree of what programmers think of #swpats ^_^ | Apr 01 08:56 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36138/ | Apr 01 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxer.com | LXer: How strange.: Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | Apr 01 09:00 | |
| schestowitz | "Yeah,... Microsoft "partners" don't usually fair too well in the long run... Heck,... even the short run..." | Apr 01 09:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'LibreOffice 5.2 Launches in August, First Bug Hunting...' | Apr 01 09:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Apr 01 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret | Apr 01 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Apr 01 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Techrights | Apr 01 09:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Passwordless encryption of the Linux root | Apr 01 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | partition on Debian 8 with an USB key | Apr 01 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtoforge.com | Passwordless encryption of the Linux root partition on Debian 8 with an USB key | Apr 01 09:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Released For POWER & AArch64 | Apr 01 09:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1fmNLFSbyU (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 09:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released For POWER & AArch64 - Phoronix | Apr 01 09:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha X.Org vs. (X)Wayland Gaming Tests - Phoronix | Apr 01 09:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GTK+ 3.20.2 GUI Toolkit Released to Fix Strange | Apr 01 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Blue Background in Emacs Windows | Apr 01 09:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GTK+ 3.20.2 GUI Toolkit Released to Fix Strange Blue Background in Emacs Windows | Apr 01 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux robot teaches coding, shoots lasers | Apr 01 09:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux robot teaches coding, shoots lasers | Apr 01 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Simplicity Linux 16.04 Enters Beta, Ships with | Apr 01 09:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Simplicity Linux 16.04 Enters Beta, Ships with Linux Kernel 4.4.4 LTS | Apr 01 09:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Business Oriented Language Lives On Confirms | Apr 01 09:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Knoppix Spinoff https://t.co/bADzrNPANB | Apr 01 09:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Business Oriented Language Lives On Confirms Knoppix Spinoff « Everyday Linux User | Apr 01 09:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Linux Released for AArch64 and | Apr 01 09:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | POWER Hardware Architectures | Apr 01 09:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Linux Released for AArch64 and POWER Hardware Architectures | Apr 01 09:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Catch all of the Android April Fools' Day jokes | Apr 01 09:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | right here https://t.co/LoK3wV9Vzk | Apr 01 09:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidcentral.com) MSIE for Linux | Apr 01 09:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Catch all of the Android April Fools' Day jokes right here | Android Central | Apr 01 09:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Internet Explorer for Linux is available for download - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Apr 01 09:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @phil3en favourited 'Business Oriented Language Lives On Confirms Knoppix Spinoff...' | Apr 01 09:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Passwordless encryption of the Linux root partition on...' | Apr 01 09:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GTK+ 3.20.2 GUI Toolkit Released to Fix Strange...' | Apr 01 09:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Simplicity Linux 16.04 Enters Beta, Ships with Linux...' | Apr 01 09:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha Linux Released for AArch64 and...' | Apr 01 10:56 | |
| oiaohm | Ok some people idea of april fools day jokes sux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX | Apr 01 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet Explorer for UNIX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 01 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715834222368464898 | Apr 01 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: @schestowitz We stopped joking about Microsoft buying OSS companies a long time ago... | Apr 01 11:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sinaNegusRex/status/715856353688993794 | Apr 01 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sinaNegusRex: @petrakramer @schestowitz LOLZ | Apr 01 12:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/galoppini/status/715820800692133889 | Apr 01 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@galoppini: Breaking News: Microsoft Mobile Technologies Go Open Source! https://t.co/0N68C6Gv9C | Apr 01 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> robertogaloppini.net | Microsoft Mobile Technologies Go Open Source! | Commercial Open Source Software | Apr 01 12:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 0 A.D. Alpha 20 Timosthenes Free RTS Game | Apr 01 12:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Ten New Maps, More | Apr 01 12:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | 0 A.D. Alpha 20 Timosthenes Free RTS Game Released with Ten New Maps, More | Apr 01 12:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slackware Linux: Shocking News! [satire] | Apr 01 12:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://all-things-linux.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/slackware-linux-shocking- ) | Apr 01 12:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/neocog/status/715792283388477440 | Apr 01 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@neocog: Google joins Fair Standards Alliance @fair_standards @FOSSpatents @SpicyIP @AllThingsFRAND | Apr 01 12:23 | |
| schestowitz | Joke | Apr 01 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat NSA, SUSE Phone, Fedora Looking Great | Apr 01 12:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat NSA, SUSE Phone, Fedora Looking Great | Tux Machines | Apr 01 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SUSE Phone, openSUSE Conference | Apr 01 12:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Phone, openSUSE Conference | Tux Machines | Apr 01 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat's EVP of Strategy and Marketing | Apr 01 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Discusses Diversity and Inclusion at Politik's | Apr 01 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Interzone https://t.co/9vxH3vd4YT | Apr 01 12:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techvibes.com | Red Hat’s EVP of Strategy and Marketing Discusses Diversity and Inclusion at Politik’s Interzone - Techvibes.com | Apr 01 12:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @creativeguerril @tuxmachines Enjoyed your thinking I'd love to | Apr 01 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | interview you for my blog. Did you see the | Apr 01 12:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | questions in my bio? | Apr 01 12:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @marketingchamp7 followed @tuxmachines | Apr 01 12:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iamkevtorious/status/715870685239898113 | Apr 01 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iamkevtorious: @schestowitz thx for article. | Apr 01 12:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines IF and DO Button by IFTTT on Android Wear – | Apr 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android customization https://t.co/EbAWoJjq13 | Apr 01 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | IF and DO Button by IFTTT on Android Wear - Android customization - Android Authority | Apr 01 13:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to add Android N’s best new features to | Apr 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | your phone right now https://t.co/ziuOQFeTin | Apr 01 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Android N Features: How to install them on your phone right now | BGR | Apr 01 13:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715882730169479168 | Apr 01 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: @schestowitz just take a look at permissions which it requires. I cant install this)) | Apr 01 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | ^Signal | Apr 01 13:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715884526090719232 | Apr 01 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Пора заканчивать с Debian, не просто так недавно убили его основателя. Смотрю в сторону Devuan. https://t.co/9kVYKq5NZw | Apr 01 13:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Debian announces partnership to sub-contract publicity and press to an outside marketing agency https://t.co/BYygFUosJI Debiasoft? | Apr 01 13:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InnGadgets followed @tuxmachines | Apr 01 13:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Headliner: BlackBerry’s Android | Apr 01 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hesitation Will Cost Them | Apr 01 13:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Android Headliner: BlackBerry's Android Hesitation Will Cost Them | Androidheadlines.com | Apr 01 13:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Gear Manager updated to version | Apr 01 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2.2.16022241 for Tizen Smartwatches | Apr 01 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1Rnnos3eqf (www.tizenexperts.com) | Apr 01 13:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Gear Manager updated to version 2.2.16022241 for Tizen Smartwatches - Tizen Experts | Apr 01 13:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/Xe2qcoNzRN | Apr 01 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Apr 01 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online | Apr 01 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | account https://t.co/nlXepfVacL | Apr 01 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online account | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/715893324905897984 | Apr 01 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz FRAND in this context is just about licensing terms. Not subject matter or examination guidelines. | Apr 01 14:31 | |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~roy@host86-134-108-146.range86-134.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Apr 01 14:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.csoonline.com/article/3049999/security/feds-tackle-open-source-code-quality.html | Apr 01 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Feds tackle open source code quality | CSO Online | Apr 01 14:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source software opens door to web design | Apr 01 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | career https://t.co/Qqyzp4Ht9i | Apr 01 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source software opens door to web design career | Tux Machines | Apr 01 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NixOS 16.03 Released https://t.co/XRnzmmscXX | Apr 01 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NixOS 16.03 Released | Tux Machines | Apr 01 14:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '0 A.D. Alpha 20 Timosthenes Free RTS Game...' | Apr 01 15:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for | Apr 01 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux on Steam https://t.co/6tcu5PFR2m | Apr 01 15:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/4TJChMSOJm | Apr 01 15:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/PFSAKhNt57 | Apr 01 15:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/TAZgCcyqrQ | Apr 01 15:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for GNU/Linux on Steam | Techrights | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| MinceR | https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/plastic/ | Apr 01 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Google Cardboard Plastic - Google [ http://ur1.ca/oq4po ] | Apr 01 15:50 | |
| XFaCE | "UPDATE: Well, it looks like we pranked ourselves this year. 😟 Due to a bug, the Mic Drop feature inadvertently caused more headaches than laughs. We’re truly sorry. The feature has been turned off. If you are still seeing it, please reload your Gmail page." | Apr 01 15:57 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 01 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/fDnVeUYCt7 | Apr 01 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for | Apr 01 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by GNU/Linux on Steam https://t.co/6tcu5PFR2m | Apr 01 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Apr 01 15:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ekendo retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for GNU/Linux...' | Apr 01 15:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NixOS 16.03 Released https://t.co/4a1xztAaa1 | Apr 01 15:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NixOS 16.03 Released - Phoronix | Apr 01 15:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/715915823358017537 | Apr 01 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Not to mention hoovering all data in customer's systems Why would you give them anything ( especially your business ) ??? | Apr 01 16:00 | |
| XFaCE | https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-climate-redesign-160401/ | Apr 01 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | The Pirate Bay Reveals New "Climate Saving" Design - TorrentFreak | Apr 01 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cvbnz/microsoft_vows_to_stop_all_patent_lawsuits_and/ | Apr 01 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs : linux | Apr 01 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Without reading, this has to be an April Fool's joke." | Apr 01 16:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:02 |
| schestowitz | ..will return money to all but those that are already defunct or bankrupt... | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | (well it is actually sad, but good April full joke) | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 01 16:03 |
| MinceR | indeed, excellent april fools -- calls attention to the evil that's still going on | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | this can't be real... next the sun will start rising in the west... | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | but seriously. if this is true and genuine ... this is an amazing about-face in MS's stance and strategy. i have to say i am ... impressed. keep this up and i might begin liking you MS! well done and thumbs up. give wounds time to heal and keep it up. | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | /u/Kruug, taking the piss I see. | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Well played :D | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | "I thought about mod-stickying it, but I didn't think it would be in good taste." | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | "No arguments here!" | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | "WHy it's posted on 31st of March if it's an April Fool's joke?" | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cuzgq/its_april_1st_and_with_all_those_ms_threads/ | Apr 01 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | It's April 1st and with all those MS threads recently I have no idea what is true or not anymore : linux | Apr 01 16:05 | |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 16:05 |
| XFaCE | https://torrentfreak.com/50000-people-protest-dmca-abuse-crash-government-server-160401/ | Apr 01 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | 50,000 People Protest DMCA Abuse, "Crash" Government Server - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/oq4uo ] | Apr 01 16:08 | |
| XFaCE | not actually fake | Apr 01 16:08 |
| XFaCE | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160331/15203434070/stupid-patent-month-mega-troll-intellectual-ventures-hits-florist-with-do-it-on-a-computer-scheduling-patent.shtml | Apr 01 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Stupid Patent Of The Month: Mega-Troll Intellectual Ventures Hits Florist With Do-It-On-A-Computer Scheduling Patent | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oq4v4 ] | Apr 01 16:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | account https://t.co/V1RFzf0ScM | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alexl.netsons.org) | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq4yi | Apr 01 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexl.netsons.org | Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online account – Alex L. | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/063EANqhTA (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq4yn | Apr 01 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | ZDNet | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Linux tablet aims to make Ubuntu desktop | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobile https://t.co/fHvimS2q2C (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/scprVVVCdd (www.geeky-gadgets.com) | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq4yo | Apr 01 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | New Linux tablet aims to make Ubuntu desktop mobile | ZDNet | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Ubuntu Linux Tablet Launches On Indiegogo From $230 (video) - Geeky Gadgets | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bbhorne/status/715123480698753024 | Apr 01 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bbhorne: @bradheath @ioerror This is very similar to what Laurie Love is being threatened with in the UK at his hearing on April 12. | Apr 01 17:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jim_Harper/status/714641572818771968 | Apr 01 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jim_Harper: "What is the Christian version of ISIS?" "The Central Intelligence Agency." | Apr 01 17:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715936201191071744 | Apr 01 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Now you understand what being a Nazi feels like. https://t.co/geNXW4Ls5j | Apr 01 17:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When people are put in prison not because they're dangerous but because they threaten the status quo or of the 'wrong' race/culture... | Apr 01 17:20 | |
| MinceR | nazis weren't dangerous? that's new | Apr 01 17:21 |
| *belle105 (92b91c3a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.146.185.28.58) has joined #techrights | Apr 01 17:30 | |
| belle105 | hi does anyone knows who is freenode answerable to? if anyone at ll ... | Apr 01 17:31 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 01 17:32 |
| MinceR | probably some subset of its staff | Apr 01 17:32 |
| belle105 | possibly , but its not very effcient if the problem is one of them or their head | Apr 01 17:33 |
| belle105 | ¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯ | Apr 01 17:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 01 17:34 |
| belle105 | lol | Apr 01 17:35 |
| belle105 | who knows | Apr 01 17:35 |
| MinceR | we're living in a Crapsack World | Apr 01 17:35 |
| belle105 | we are ? | Apr 01 17:36 |
| belle105 | i was hoping not | Apr 01 17:36 |
| belle105 | :) | Apr 01 17:36 |
| razielle_tzu | freenode is managed by a group of volunteers, it used to be answerable to the PDPC but they shut down | Apr 01 17:37 |
| belle105 | ok thanks. :) i am new to irc | Apr 01 17:37 |
| belle105 | learning..... continuously | Apr 01 17:38 |
| belle105 | some odd things happening | Apr 01 17:38 |
| belle105 | and no one to talk to really | Apr 01 17:38 |
| belle105 | thank you have a lovely weekend :) | Apr 01 17:39 |
| razielle_tzu | freenode is split into roughly four areas that have one person at the lead https://freenode.net/people | Apr 01 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The People - freenode | Apr 01 17:39 | |
| belle105 | i can't use internal hierarchy | Apr 01 17:40 |
| belle105 | i have to go out of freenode | Apr 01 17:40 |
| MinceR | you could go to court | Apr 01 17:41 |
| XFaCE | belle105: what happened? | Apr 01 17:41 |
| belle105 | i rather not say her eits delicate | Apr 01 17:41 |
| MinceR | or use your own military force, if any | Apr 01 17:41 |
| belle105 | here * | Apr 01 17:41 |
| belle105 | suffice to say i have reported an incident at a request of a friend. which involved the head of freenode | Apr 01 17:42 |
| belle105 | and since then | Apr 01 17:42 |
| MinceR | http://avoidtheinternet.today/ | Apr 01 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-avoidtheinternet.today | Avoid the Internet | Apr 01 17:42 | |
| belle105 | we have been targeted | Apr 01 17:42 |
| belle105 | haha april 1 .... | Apr 01 17:43 |
| belle105 | l thank you again have a nice Friday / wknd | Apr 01 17:44 |
| belle105 | bye | Apr 01 17:44 |
| *belle105 (92b91c3a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.146.185.28.58) has left #techrights | Apr 01 17:44 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: well that was bizarre | Apr 01 17:44 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Apr 01 17:45 |
| MinceR | but then so are the people in charge of freenode and oftc | Apr 01 17:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: wonder why she came here | Apr 01 17:50 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 01 17:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.wired.com/2016/03/microsoft-delights-devs-freeing-xamarin-coding-tools/ | Apr 01 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Microsoft Delights Devs By Freeing Its Xamarin Coding Tools | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/oq5gj ] | Apr 01 17:52 | |
| XFaCE | "Delights" | Apr 01 17:52 |
| XFaCE | 'Freeing' | Apr 01 17:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 17:52 |
| MinceR | some "Devs" they are if they're "Delighted" by such crapware | Apr 01 17:52 |
| XFaCE | "Those were surely some of the questions on the minds of developers last month when Microsoft announced that it would acquire Xamarin, a company that makes tools that help coders build applications that can run on multiple systems, including those made by Microsoft’s rivals, namely Android and iOS. " | Apr 01 17:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Woah, totally missed that new | Apr 01 17:53 |
| XFaCE | *s | Apr 01 17:53 |
| XFaCE | "That said, Microsoft isn’t giving away all of Xamarin’s source code. “We’re releasing the Xamarin runtime and all the command line tools you need to build apps,” Xamarin co-founder Nat Friedman said in a comment on the Hacker News forum. But he added that some of Xamarin’s code editing tools will remain proprietary, though they’ll be free to use." | Apr 01 17:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: same old story | Apr 01 17:57 |
| XFaCE | WIRED removed comments I've seen | Apr 01 17:57 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: guessing the koolaid must flow uninhibited | Apr 01 17:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7204867 | Apr 01 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The 'new' #microsoft https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/715915823358017537 recall http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA & http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt for what? I stopped using Windows at home more than ten years ago and I do not need it." | Apr 01 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Not to mention hoovering all data in customer's systems Why would you give them anything ( especially your business ) ??? | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <XFaCE> "Delights" | Apr 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <XFaCE> 'Freeing' | Apr 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | We LOVE Xamarin, don't we? | Apr 01 18:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 18:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, i love xamarin so much! :launches nuclear ICBM at xamarin: | Apr 01 18:22 |
| MinceR | (Powered by Microsoft(r) Love(tm)) | Apr 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7204643 | Apr 01 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The rise of politicians who give the poor hope by promising to kill >other< poor people (often other ethnics groups). A worrisome trend. | Apr 01 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | "And the problem is not only the politician making unethical promises, but all of his followers as well." | Apr 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I have an article about this in drafts | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | but not enough time to get around to it | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | besides, it looks like people aren'y fooled by de Icaza anymore | Apr 01 18:23 |
| MinceR | well, ending the overpopulation issue is worthy of hope | Apr 01 18:23 |
| MinceR | though they'd probably have to kill rich people to do that too | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | So I see plenty of resistance to this "love" anyway | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nuclear winter isn;t the solution | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | it harms food resources, long term too | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | so famine and fewer overall resources on the planet, for other species too | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | I hope for overpopulation without radical events | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | but there's some brain virus like religious that say produce as many offsprings as possible | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | To make the people who control the religion (the ringleaders) richer and more powerful | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | !google wealth of brunei sultan | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Sultan of Brunei Net Worth - biography, quotes, wiki, assets, cars ... | http://www.bornrich.com/sultan-haji-hassanal-bolkiah.html | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Top 15 Wealthiest Royals - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/global/2008/0901/038.html | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah Net Worth - TheRichest | http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/politician/royal/hassanal-bolkiah-net-worth/ | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Royal Family Of Brunei Wealth - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/royal-family-of-brunei-wealth-2014-5 | Apr 01 18:25 |
| schestowitz | !google wealth of vatican | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Pope Francis Fails To Mention The Vatican Billions As He Gives ... | http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-fails-mention-vatican-billions-gives-speech-denouncing-wealth/ | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - How rich is the Vatican? So wealthy it can stumble across millions of ... | http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-millions-euros-just-tucked-away-1478219 | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Vatican Billions - Two Thousand Years of Wealth Accumulation ... | http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_billions.htm | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Roman Catholics: The Vatican's Wealth - TIME | http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833509,00.html | Apr 01 18:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: that won't stop humanity from causing it though | Apr 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715955924637061120 | Apr 01 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yashalevine: Tor, the best kiddie abuse-porn network federal money can buy. @brokenrib @schestowitz | Apr 01 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | ^^pando writers | Apr 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | me: #pando continues its notorious attack on #tor and its users, developers etc. labelling them paedophiles and such… | Apr 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/715957189530222592 | Apr 01 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz @yashalevine @brokenrib Looks like someone has a case of wishful thinking. | Apr 01 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | Haha | Apr 01 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $10 Orange Pi One Linux Benchmarks Against The | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi & Other ARM Boards | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v85NLEki5f (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5qz | Apr 01 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | $10 Orange Pi One Linux Benchmarks Against The Raspberry Pi & Other ARM Boards - Phoronix | Apr 01 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines France unveils source code of income tax | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | application https://t.co/5n2mZL5HSm | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5r0 | Apr 01 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France unveils source code of income tax application | Tux Machines | Apr 01 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux container security is on the evolutionary | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fast track https://t.co/9ejdlWVBsU | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com) | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5r2 | Apr 01 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com | Linux container security is on the evolutionary fast track | Apr 01 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715958460110807041 | Apr 01 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yashalevine: The best anonymity-abuse network Pentagon money can buy...most traffic is abusive. https://t.co/8yGuAaoddi https://t.co/CiHcO1yU7x | Apr 01 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | CloudFlare: 94 percent of the Tor traffic we see is “per se malicious” | Ars Technica | Apr 01 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #pando continues its notorious attack on #tor and its users, developers etc. labelling them paedophiles and such... https://t.co/Poux2qvJx2 | Apr 01 18:47 | |
| schestowitz | says cloudflare | Apr 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/715960986541432833 | Apr 01 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Yeey Atlantis ;'-)) https://t.co/reRbJewHbz | Apr 01 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA Used Submarine Probes To Listen In On Undersea Cable Communications https://t.co/AM1rNNaxA0 worse than https://t.co/0c2bgrofz5 | Apr 01 18:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat boosts open source system business | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rZnS0Fngrf (www.koreatimes.co.kr) | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xl | Apr 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreatimes.co.kr | Red Hat boosts open source system business | Apr 01 19:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android tablets: April 2016 edition | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kEkCknPUpN (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xm | Apr 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android tablets: April 2016 edition | ZDNet | Apr 01 19:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not even Google's Android can pull BlackBerry | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | out of its tailspin https://t.co/PkYDCVwleI | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cnet.com) | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xn | Apr 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Not even Google's Android can pull BlackBerry out of its tailspin - CNET | Apr 01 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cvbnz/microsoft_vows_to_stop_all_patent_lawsuits_and/ | Apr 01 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "April Fools' jokes posted in the morning by people in the rest of the world get timestamped 31st of March by US servers." | Apr 01 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "Timezones, probably. And the notion of keeping the reader guessing whether it's one or not." | Apr 01 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oq5z0 ] | Apr 01 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeLauriLove/status/715967947223736320 | Apr 01 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreeLauriLove: @schestowitz Support Lauri Love's effort against extradition. https://t.co/KyHMyy1hF6 Fundraiser: https://t.co/4B4W0VRT12 | Apr 01 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://freelauri.com/category/take-action/ ) | Apr 01 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> couragefoundation.spreadshirt.co.uk | Lauri Love | Courage Foundation UK | Apr 01 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715958460110807041 | Apr 01 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Unless #cloudflare has pedophilia sites as "customers", this does nothing to support your (and Pando's) latest smears against #tor | Apr 01 19:31 |
| MinceR | http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/world-standard-organizations-to-release-entirely-reworked-standards/ | Apr 01 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | World Standard Organizations to Release Entirely Reworked Standards | Hackaday [ http://ur1.ca/oq6c7 ] | Apr 01 19:58 | |
| MinceR | notice they went the extra mile, including "ISO" as a "Standard Organization". hilarious! | Apr 01 19:58 |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has left #techrights | Apr 01 20:24 | |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights | Apr 01 20:25 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/apple-introduces-their-answer-to-the-raspberry-pi/ | Apr 01 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | Apple Introduces Their Answer To The Raspberry Pi | Hackaday [ http://ur1.ca/oq6o0 ] | Apr 01 20:28 | |
| MinceR | seen it | Apr 01 20:28 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1446 | Apr 01 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/31/2016 | Apr 01 20:34 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: https://www.bahnhof.se/press/press-releases/2016/04/01/bahnhof-infor-konsindelat-internet | Apr 01 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bahnhof.se | Bahnhof inför könsindelat internet - Nyheter [ http://ur1.ca/oq6rn ] | Apr 01 20:36 | |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 20:37 |
| MinceR | i don't speak swedish though | Apr 01 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ne bona | Apr 01 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SA's first Red Hat learnership begins | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qRXnSTvJ64 (www.itweb.co.za) | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6tm | Apr 01 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | SA's first Red Hat learnership begins | ITWeb | Apr 01 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/cXTEaFdRoC | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6tn | Apr 01 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More Android Leftovers https://t.co/ybbXESsIbp | Apr 01 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6to | Apr 01 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:42 | |
| schestowitz | Re: This is what I talked about | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > This is what I talked you about that permission I requested from Bloomber | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > editor: | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > From: "Atika Valbrun (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)" <avalbrun@bloomberg.net> | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > To: elwanka@gmail.com | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Cc: jgreiff@bloomberg.net | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Re:Fwd:Permission regardin Article Noah Smith | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Eduardo Landaveri, | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for your interest in Bloomberg content. In order to purchase a | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > specific Bloomberg article, please go to our partner website YGS at the link | Apr 01 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theygsgroup.com | Permissions Form | The YGS Group [ http://ur1.ca/oq730 ] | Apr 01 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Aimee Gray | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > aimee.gray@theygsgroup.com | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Account Manager | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Content Sales & Licensing | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > The YGS Group | Apr 01 21:05 |
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| schestowitz | > Who the heck that YGS group belong? I'll investigate later. For the moment, | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > there are more important things to do. | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Cheers | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | "Content Sales & Licensing" | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Excuse me, I've got to go to the toilet to throw up... | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | [this is for Spanish translation] | Apr 01 21:07 |
| schestowitz | not even making a copy | Apr 01 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zippydazipster/status/715996355349635073 | Apr 01 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zippydazipster: @schestowitz @hackaday difference will be the apple one is 5x the price and you won't be able to change the battery? 😉 | Apr 01 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205541 | Apr 01 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Companies like #facebook force band to rename http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7318701/norwegian-band-slutface-changes-name-slotface-social-media-censorship http://www.gigwise.com/news/106254/slutface-forced-to-change-name-by-facebook-to-slotface-spong-state http://diymag.com/2016/04/01/slutface-change-name-to-slotface-share-new-single #censorship | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.billboard.com | Slutface Changes Name After 'Social Media Censorship' | Billboard [ http://ur1.ca/oq7ph ] | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | "shouldnt that mean that #facebook is not a feasible platform for about 80% of underground punk bands out there…?" | Apr 01 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gigwise.com | Social media censorship forces Slutface to change name | Gigwise [ http://ur1.ca/oq7pi ] | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> diymag.com | Slutface change name to SLØTFACE, share new single | DIY [ http://ur1.ca/oq7pj ] | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | Facebook is not in the free speech business but in social engineering. Watch who invests... | Apr 01 21:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v9zvrgXAEu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Tux Machines | Apr 01 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fair Source licensing is the worst thing to | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | happen to open source-definitely maybe | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JbtSpVrlyR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fair Source licensing is the worst thing to happen to open source-definitely maybe | Tux Machines | Apr 01 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3gE6iHgFEs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 01 22:05 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201216 | Apr 01 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why are so many people using ad blockers? http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049655/android/why-are-so-many-people-using-ad-blockers.html security, #privacy and ethics, among other reasons | Apr 01 22:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Why are so many people using ad blockers? | InfoWorld | Apr 01 22:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Why are some people not using ad blockers?" | Apr 01 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Not aware of the possibility, I guess? | Apr 01 22:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1qIOEE54Tc (hackerboards.com) | Apr 01 22:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 22:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2UHOZxSszf (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 22:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks - Phoronix | Apr 01 22:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 is ready | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oIbloeZdnS (support.zenwalk.org) | Apr 01 22:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.zenwalk.org | Zenwalk Support • View topic - Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 is ready | Apr 01 22:47 | |
| gde33 | https://sci-hub.io | Apr 01 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sci-hub.io | Sci-Hub: removing barriers in the way of science | Apr 01 22:58 | |
| MinceR | great! | Apr 01 23:03 |
| MinceR | have they removed christianity yet? | Apr 01 23:03 |
| schestowitz | there are some papers on Jesus | Apr 01 23:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/716024705258401794 | Apr 01 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: (English) @Oracle’s Huge Claims Against #Linux/#Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of #OIN" https://t.co/KKCZtb81Ma https://t.co/R65yfJhkMV | Apr 01 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Apr 01 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_cirrus_minor_: 🖥 Grandes Reclamos de Oracle Contra Linux/Android Demuestra la Futilidad de la OIN https://t.co/hNa6EGyuxL https://t.co/pgXBSHrbSi | Apr 01 23:12 | |
| MinceR | obstacle's crusade against android while being an oin licensee also demonstrates the uselessness of oin | Apr 01 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CoreOS and Intel to Meld Kubernetes, OpenStack | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | into Single Stack https://t.co/faSR2BHQv7 | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ostatic.com) | Apr 01 23:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | CoreOS and Intel to Meld Kubernetes, OpenStack into Single Stack | Apr 01 23:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "projects such as the UbuntuBSD distribution | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | offer a wider range of options to the FOSS | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | community at large." https://t.co/5VOdBZl2V8 | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Apr 01 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | UbuntuBSD | Linux Journal | Apr 01 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Human Resource Machine from World of Goo | Apr 01 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | creators now on Linux & SteamOS | Apr 01 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/x6qVjCcUwI (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Human Resource Machine from World of Goo creators now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 23:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear DLC | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released with day-1 Linux support | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qIKbwb6zRL (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | not 0-day? | Apr 01 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear DLC released with day-1 Linux support | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and I have some thoughts | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eqLSjYIGhV (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on Linux and I have some thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 23:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @m0nst3rb favourited 'Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on...' | Apr 01 23:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 https://t.co/XOT2kFJpft | Apr 01 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 23:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 23:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine 1.9.7 https://t.co/21rpVOyauf | Apr 01 23:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.9.7 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 23:37 | |
| XFaCE | [18:13:04]<MinceR> obstacle's crusade against android while being an oin licensee also demonstrates the uselessness of oin | Apr 01 23:39 |
| XFaCE | it's like having Saudi Arabia as the human rights chair in the UN | Apr 01 23:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, and afaik they really have that position | Apr 01 23:40 |
| XFaCE | my point :P | Apr 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't 'get' what Phipps wants MSFT in OIn for, except a symbolic genture | Apr 01 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess he just wants to make an ultimatum or some kind | Apr 01 23:55 |
| schestowitz | good news is, for now, MS if dying in more fronts | Apr 01 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I've read that Windows Phone is sort of "on hold" | Apr 01 23:55 |
| schestowitz | they don't want to say "dead" yet | Apr 01 23:55 |
| MinceR | maybe he believes it would stop m$ from suing people in the exact way it didn't stop obstacle from doing that | Apr 02 00:02 |
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| XFaCE | [19:02:18]<MinceR> maybe he believes it would stop m$ from suing people in the exact way it didn't stop obstacle from doing that | Apr 02 00:23 |
| XFaCE | And Microsoft has never ever lied/manipulated/exploited pledges they have taken | Apr 02 00:23 |
| XFaCE | *lied about | Apr 02 00:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 02 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: BSD | Tux Machines | Apr 02 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.20 Provides Shortcuts to the Linux | Apr 02 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop https://t.co/SJo6aSX24q (www.eweek.com) | Apr 02 01:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | GNOME 3.20 Provides Shortcuts to the Linux Desktop | Apr 02 01:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true | Apr 02 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true | Tux Machines | Apr 02 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UbuntuBSD https://t.co/KkWXxUyCns | Apr 02 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UbuntuBSD | Tux Machines | Apr 02 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines I hate Microsoft Office https://t.co/AIZ5BQmBQY | Apr 02 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I hate Microsoft Office | Tux Machines | Apr 02 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true | Apr 02 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zLbemM1754 (www.alexl.netsons.org) | Apr 02 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexl.netsons.org | Plasma, online accounts and sync: what is true – Alex L. | Apr 02 01:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bob_moss/status/716068841793654784 | Apr 02 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bob_moss: @schestowitz give it time. I'm sure the likes of Ocado, Amazon & every major UK supermarket chain will want that data sooner or later... | Apr 02 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | They're cooperating with companies that do this, e.g. #nectar at #sainsburys | Apr 02 02:07 |
| MinceR | http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=af16_feminists | Apr 02 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-maddox.xmission.com | BuzzebelMico9Post [ http://ur1.ca/oqak1 ] | Apr 02 02:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, | Apr 02 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PMOD, and more https://t.co/1gkhkjxbwn | Apr 02 02:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, PMOD, and more | Apr 02 02:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 | Apr 02 02:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release Candidate https://t.co/tq6pNUQAJ3 | Apr 02 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 Release Candidate | Techrights | Apr 02 02:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/djEDDYGD5T | Apr 02 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/29paZ3x2eK | Apr 02 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Apr 02 02:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Syf7xX4JWK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Linux, Graphics | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE's Plasma 5.7, GNOME 3.20 | Apr 02 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's Plasma 5.7, GNOME 3.20 | Tux Machines | Apr 02 02:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201068 | Apr 02 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The TOR Project: “Our Developers Will Quit If Ordered To Backdoor TOR Browser” http://fossbytes.com/tor-project-developers-will-quit-ordered-backdoor-tor-browser/ #tor #anonymity | Apr 02 02:35 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fossbytes.com | The TOR Project: "Our Developers Will Quit If Ordered To Backdoor TOR Browser" [ http://ur1.ca/oqass ] | Apr 02 02:35 | |
| schestowitz | The Tor Project releases something called the Tor Browser. They refuse to release a version that is deliberately vulnerable. While you can fork their GPLed code and release a vulnerable version yourself, that does not in any way force the Tor Project to release a vulnerable version. | Apr 02 02:35 |
| schestowitz | “You can run a backdoor yourself.” I think you must have been talking about about t a scheme to identify Tor users with techniques other than forcing the Tor Project to release a vulnerable version of the Tor Browser. | Apr 02 02:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 02 04:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 | Apr 02 04:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Release Candidate https://t.co/tq6pNUQAJ3 | Apr 02 04:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Zenwalk 8.0 Beta 3, pfSense 2.3 Release Candidate | Techrights | Apr 02 04:15 | |
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| schestowitz | Re: Microsoft en la EPO: Una Mirada a la Relación | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | > I notice that your Spanish translator has added his/her own comment | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | > about favouritism towards Gemalto. Good point! | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | I mostly know them for the GCHQ/NSA fiasco. | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205160 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Duterte (Donald Rump of .ph but without the money) described by supporter as, "we're a sick country, we need a sick leader." No comment. | Apr 02 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | "… mis/un informed voters loves buying the “lesser evil” mantra. =(" | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7206963 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:    | Apr 02 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | "Jua jua >_<" | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205625 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: At the border of #israel and #lebanon there is also #underwater spying but it's not targeting cables but other forms of "threats". | Apr 02 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | There have been many rumors, but I don’t think they are based on facts. | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | In 2014 in Gaza it turned out the Hamas used “attack tunnels”. Mind you, that the land in those area (sandy) is ideal for digging tunnels. That led to rumors that the Hezbulla will use th same tactic in the northern front (as like the Hamas, it is not exactly successful in over-ground attacks). However the ground over there lies over bed rocks and digging is a tricky challenge. | Apr 02 09:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 09:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NetworkManager 1.0.12 brings a couple of fixes | Apr 02 09:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.0.12 brings a couple of fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 02 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, | Apr 02 09:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, PMOD, and more | Tux Machines | Apr 02 09:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Android shortcuts you'll wish you knew all | Apr 02 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | along https://t.co/ptUNpbnGmn (www.cnet.com) | Apr 02 13:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | 5 Android shortcuts you'll wish you knew all along - CNET | Apr 02 13:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 of the best new and updated Android apps from | Apr 02 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | March https://t.co/glANTQf2d4 (thenextweb.com) | Apr 02 13:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | 8 of the best new and updated Android apps from March | Apr 02 13:50 | |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, I have seen your articles. That's what made me think of it. I | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > wondered if there is a collection somewhere online which lists all the | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > MS tricks in one place - a kind of reference library of MS evil, where | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > people can add examples when they come across them. | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | An online mate of mine from Scotland had a go at it about 7 years ago and it's still here: | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Microsoft_Sins | Apr 02 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | List of Microsoft Sins - Techrights | Apr 02 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | Also translated into some other languages at the time. I could think of lots more, but I didn't write and I don't want to edit it. | Apr 02 14:38 |
| cubexyz | Hiring munchkins? :) | Apr 02 14:40 |
| cubexyz | I like my list better | Apr 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz | which is...? | Apr 02 14:43 |
| cubexyz | had to update it :) | Apr 02 14:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt | Apr 02 14:45 |
| cubexyz | XBox was bad on multiple levels, but it's not important | Apr 02 14:45 |
| cubexyz | merely a sideshow | Apr 02 14:46 |
| cubexyz | the main point, I think, is the old "what's ours is ours and what's yours is ours" attitude of M$ | Apr 02 14:46 |
| cubexyz | basically you can sum everything up with "closed source is slavery" | Apr 02 14:47 |
| cubexyz | Gates and Allen were thieves in that they stole computer time from Universities | Apr 02 14:48 |
| cubexyz | but I predict M$ will collapse, all empires fall eventually | Apr 02 14:50 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft isn't the only company that makes shoddy hard-to-fix products | Apr 02 14:52 |
| cubexyz | so there are multiple issues... | Apr 02 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: That was a good April fools you had | Apr 02 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and you got a Ubuntu device yet :d | Apr 02 14:53 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Apr 02 14:53 |
| cubexyz | if enough people become knowledgeable about Linux/BSD/FOSS and learn to become preservationists and DIYers then M$ is dead | Apr 02 14:59 |
| cubexyz | M$ only survives if people remain stupid | Apr 02 14:59 |
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| MinceR | most people have always been stupid | Apr 02 15:12 |
| MinceR | at least ever since human survival didn't depend on intelligence | Apr 02 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/fordham-2016-outstanding-patent-issues.html?showComment=1459585112176#c6154292126109117257 | Apr 02 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Fordham 2016: Outstanding patent issues - the UPC, dual-track systems and Alice v CLS Bank | Apr 02 17:06 | |
| schestowitz | " Sir Robin has in the past pointed out the potential consequences of extending the 9 month time limit for filing an EPO opposition. It seems that the existence of the time limit forces parties to file precautionary EPO oppositions which they might otherwise have chosen to delay. Analogously, the existence of the UPC route would make the precautionary opposition less necessary. Thus the number of opposition cases might drop. " | Apr 02 17:07 |
| MinceR | Sir Robin, from Monty Python & the Holy Grail? | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Florian: | Apr 02 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > You're welcome. I may have more stuff of this kind for you in the coming months. Honestly, I've lost track of the whole EPO mess, but if Battistelli resigns, I'll probably write something about the EPO conflict again. | Apr 02 17:26 |
| schestowitz | You and I should worry more about patent scope at the EPO (and UPC, which related to this) than about Battistelli personally. I think staff increasingly agrees on that too. They're exposed to competing ideologies. Battistelli drove them closer to the EPO's critics. They now see a lot of what's wrong with software patents for instance, not to mention the UPC (the attached PDF criticises it already). | Apr 02 17:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716296654161317888 https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716297613906198529 https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716297764364230657 | Apr 02 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: Some might say Roy is ever so slightly obsessed. If he's read IAM, as he claims, he clearly doesn't understand it 😀 https://t.co/R7vDkLOHps | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Biased IAM’s Editor in Chief Goes on the Offensive Against (Software) Patent Sceptics, Still a Trolls Denialist https://t.co/zm9d17fnkT | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: @schestowitz Also worth noting Roy "forgot" to mention Rackspace's CTO was caught red-handed inventing dodgy patent stats. What a surprise 😀 | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: @schestowitz - did you not understand this one? https://t.co/lqA1q8YGco | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.iam-media.com | There is an intellectual dishonesty at the heart of the case for US patent reform that needs to be discussed - Blog - Intellectual Asset Management (IAM) - Maximising IP Value for Business | Apr 02 17:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fair Source, April Fools', Winbuntu review | Apr 02 18:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fair Source, April Fools', Winbuntu review | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Apr 02 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sPWZfNcDGh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 18:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:05 | |
| cubexyz | the bash stuff was real though, not april fools? | Apr 02 18:34 |
| razielle_tzu | apparently so | Apr 02 18:36 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/phone-wars.jpg | Apr 02 18:41 |
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| MarkBilk | fun and games w microshit: tried to install skype. it wanted an ms acct, w a long difficult password. install failed -- hung. Next time computer woke up it was locked and demanded goddam password! | Apr 02 18:43 |
| MarkBilk | i phoned microshit and they wanted money to help me. yelled and cursed and they put me thru and helped. | Apr 02 18:45 |
| MarkBilk | most of the links/apps on the screen are to get money! | Apr 02 18:47 |
| MarkBilk | anyone who thinks microshit isnt evil should try windows | Apr 02 18:50 |
| cubexyz | how come you're on windows? | Apr 02 18:53 |
| cubexyz | still at the hospital I suppose? | Apr 02 18:53 |
| MarkBilk | yep -- rehab | Apr 02 18:56 |
| MarkBilk | bought a new computer | Apr 02 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for | Apr 02 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Apr 02 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zGRvCsZ1wQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 18:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:59 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, doing some 3d generation today | Apr 02 20:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/conve-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/conve-with-perspective.png ) | Apr 02 20:45 | |
| XRevan86 | * http://maxhost.org/other/cone-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: How do you make typos in your URLs? :) | Apr 02 20:46 |
| cubexyz | extra v | Apr 02 20:47 |
| cubexyz | yeah that is a bit strange | Apr 02 20:47 |
| cubexyz | the filename is correct, but my typing was off | Apr 02 20:47 |
| cubexyz | I think because I type convert a lot | Apr 02 20:51 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/corrected-cone-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 20:58 |
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| cubexyz | :-/ | Apr 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/correct-cone-with-perspective.png | Apr 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | vertex data was a bit off too, but now fixed | Apr 02 20:58 |
| cubexyz | so one vertex at the top, one at the bottom, and a 20 sized polygon for the base | Apr 02 21:01 |
| cubexyz | sided :-/ | Apr 02 21:02 |
| cubexyz | came across some really nice pov-ray stuff recently: | Apr 02 21:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pov-ray-gt-city.jpg | Apr 02 21:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/716334109367398401 https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/716335185382473728 | Apr 02 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @schestowitz @csoghoian https://t.co/C5N1GR1ZYR | Apr 02 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TheCommunitizer/status/716349406727901184 | Apr 02 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Funny video | Apr 02 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PirateTimes: “Intellectual Property” is not REAL property: This is an opinion article by Óscar which reflects the au... https://t.co/kLxD6bLGqJ #ppint | Apr 02 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: @csoghoian @schestowitz https://t.co/JqoJ6v1cWw | Apr 02 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arstechnica: FBI offers crypto assistance to local cops: “We are in this together” https://t.co/JKu5y44g1b by @cfarivar | Apr 02 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TheCommunitizer: @schestowitz https://t.co/hylxmwu0OF I ever share these with you? (Im a Fedoran, btw. Know anyone willing to work on alternative IN Fedora?) | Apr 02 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | systemD; To Serve Mankind. "It's a Cookbook!" (Dire warning from MarkDude from The Future) - YouTube | Apr 02 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. Interesting. I was thinking of all those annoying little nerdy | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > things, which I'm sure are deliberate, that make it difficult to work | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > without MS Office or Outlook, like the small things which MS Office for | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > Mac can't do, but which most people never discover (like MS Word for Mac | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > can't generate a PDF containing links). Or that Outlook forwards emails | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > by default as .msg attachments. Or that MS Word equation editor, merge | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > fields, line numbering etc aren't compatible with anything else. All | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > those small things that make "sensible" people tell you to stop being a | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > mardy arse and start using Windows. | Apr 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | > [...] | Apr 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | > Skype: | Apr 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | ^^^^ | Apr 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Or those latest bits of news about Skype on Linux no longer working with certain feature. AFAIK, before the NSAcrosoft took over it, back when it was a European company, Linux was supporting all the core features. Not anymore. | Apr 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves Linux. And I love Microsoft. ;-) | Apr 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | MarkBilk: I saw you on the big screen | Apr 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | 10 Cloverfield Lane | Apr 02 22:10 |
| MarkBilk | schestowitz, haha! what is that about? | Apr 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | watch it, you might like it | Apr 02 22:13 |
| schestowitz | underwater bunker and stuff | Apr 02 22:14 |
| schestowitz | *underground | Apr 02 22:14 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for Download...' | Apr 02 22:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for | Apr 02 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Apr 02 22:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for Download with Kernel 4.4.5 LTS | Apr 02 22:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu | Apr 02 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conference, Announced for November | Apr 02 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu Conference, Announced for November | Apr 02 22:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Apr 02 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years - Phoronix | Apr 02 22:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" | Apr 02 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Officially Released https://t.co/TV1k8lKeko | Apr 02 22:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/VGTRxNqQyk | Apr 02 22:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" Officially Released | Apr 02 22:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian 8.4 Released With Security Fixes, Other Package Updates - Phoronix | Apr 02 22:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux | Apr 02 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support | Apr 02 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel...' | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proposal" For Linux Development | Apr 02 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane Proposal" For Linux Development - Phoronix | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Student Built An Amazing Steam | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | This Student Built An Amazing Steam Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Apr 02 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0sPhnhI1VS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 23:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GarrettCobarr/status/716382873750646784 | Apr 02 23:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support | Apr 02 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GarrettCobarr: @schestowitz Babbage goes modern, or is this some of kind of miniaturized Steam Punk? | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 23:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for Virtual Text Consoles | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane | Apr 02 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proposal" For Linux Development | Apr 02 23:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane Proposal" For Linux Development | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| schestowitz | The most common tactic, employed by the agency for some time now, but they still shoot people as well. | Apr 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7207926 | Apr 02 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "U.S.-backed political movements employ “silent coup” tactics to discredit and remove troublesome leaders" https://consortiumnews.com/2016/03/30/a-silent-coup-for-brazil/ | Apr 02 23:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> consortiumnews.com | A ‘Silent Coup’ for Brazil? – Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/oqld1 ] | Apr 02 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | "The most common tactic, employed by the agency for some time now, but they still shoot people as well." | Apr 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Parliament Approves Contentious Amnesty Law, Potential Reforms to Supreme Court | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11911 | Apr 02 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venezuelanalysis.com | Parliament Approves Contentious Amnesty Law, Potential Reforms to Supreme Court | venezuelanalysis.com | Apr 02 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Venezuelan Socialist Politician Slain in ‘Vile’ Killing | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11912 | Apr 02 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venezuelanalysis.com | Venezuelan Socialist Politician Slain in 'Vile' Killing | venezuelanalysis.com | Apr 02 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Not just in South America | Apr 02 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Student Built An Amazing Steam | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/J72O6u6jD2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 02 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Student Built An Amazing Steam Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Can Android Learn from its Competition? | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ubbSzsKrYa | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.xda-developers.com) | Apr 02 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | What Can Android Learn from its Competition? | Apr 02 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Video Shows How to Build an Android App | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Your Arduino Project | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ycxkpF9u1R (lifehacker.com) | Apr 02 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | This Video Shows How to Build an Android App for Your Arduino Project | Apr 02 23:33 | |
| MarkBilk | ok, stop contaminating this channel with posts about politics dammit! Which is the best up to date non-systemd linux distro now? | Apr 02 23:40 |
| MarkBilk | windows is driving me crazy. and its a short drive. | Apr 02 23:42 |
| cubexyz | slack, openbsd, chromeos | Apr 02 23:43 |
| XRevan86 | MarkBilk: Devuan, Gentoo, Void Linux | Apr 02 23:44 |
| MarkBilk | current slackware - 14.2 - is still in RC1 | Apr 02 23:47 |
| MarkBilk | gentoo is 3/2016 but is source-based | Apr 02 23:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @iobtoolkit favourited 'This Video Shows How to Build an Android...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2016.04.01 Is Now Available for Download...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu Conference,...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" Officially...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for...' | Apr 02 23:49 | |
| MarkBilk | void is rolling but very weird - "builds the software in containers through the use of Linux namespaces, providing isolation of processes and bind mounts (among others)." | Apr 02 23:53 |
| MarkBilk | https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Void_Linux | Apr 02 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Void_Linux ) | Apr 02 23:53 | |
| MinceR | funtoo | Apr 02 23:54 |
| MinceR | again, source-based :> | Apr 02 23:54 |
| MinceR | also, if lack of dependency handling is the only thing putting you off slackware, then salix | Apr 02 23:54 |
| MarkBilk | stable slack is 2013 - too old | Apr 02 23:55 |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Mar 27 09:03 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 27 09:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/713999676190638080 | Mar 27 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: Largest staff union #SUEPO of the European Patent Office #EPO refactored their RSS feed of public pages. Finally. https://t.co/8QMlQRtHKZ | Mar 27 09:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: At long last #suepo changes site design and adds RSS feed https://t.co/wjSHePInPY #epo https://t.co/PVK5ds4eUF | Mar 27 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mIxXV2i7AI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 4.6 RC Build, Introduces OrangeFS | Tux Machines | Mar 27 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OrangeFS Lands In Linux 4.6 Kernel | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FqijLTPAQS (www.phoronix.com) more | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | new featrtures https://t.co/eSX8zM2Mms | Mar 27 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 27 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OrangeFS Lands In Linux 4.6 Kernel - Phoronix | Mar 27 09:13 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 4.6 Set To Bring A Significant Number Of New Features - Phoronix | Mar 27 09:13 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 27 09:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz in Datacentres https://t.co/3crW7NK7z8 | Mar 27 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 09:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Finishing Icahn’s and Ballmer’s Job: Microsoft Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux in Datacentres | Techrights | Mar 27 09:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft | Mar 27 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Wants to Kill Yahoo! and Exterminate GNU/Linux | Mar 27 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @retroDoomer in Datacentres https://t.co/3crW7NK7z8 | Mar 27 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 10:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @pinguinpatje retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Finishing Icahn's and Ballmer's Job: Microsoft Wants to...' | Mar 27 10:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MKVToolNix 9.0.0 Open-Source MKV Manipulation Tool Released with...' | Mar 27 11:39 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/charlesb430/status/714048194557165568 | Mar 27 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@charlesb430: via @schestowitz We've Barely Begun to Tap the Sun’s Mighty Power https://t.co/Esyrm7oIJv #energy | Mar 27 12:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | We've Barely Begun to Tap the Sun’s Mighty Power | Mother Jones | Mar 27 12:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines redhat upgraded https://t.co/bJyrWIaMnw | Mar 27 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.markets.co) | Mar 27 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.markets.co | Red Hat Receives a Buy from Barclays - Markets.co | Mar 27 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines notepadqq – Notepad++ for Ubuntu Linux | Mar 27 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uI6MsvfnzA (www.linuxtechi.com) | Mar 27 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com | Notepadqq - Notepad++ For Ubuntu Linux | Mar 27 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build 20160326 Screenshot | Mar 27 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tour https://t.co/fb6nlN3TS5 | Mar 27 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxscreenshots.org) | Mar 27 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Ubuntu 16.04 Daily Build 20160326 Screenshot Tour | Mar 27 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/714052629077368832 | Mar 27 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: re post-#US #Emancipation 1863 #Confederate plantation owners used #Vagrancy laws & #PrivatePrisons 4 cheap labour. https://t.co/SSMiTBbA6p | Mar 27 12:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With Nuisance Laws, Has ‘Serve and Protect’ Turned Into ‘Silence and Evict’? https://t.co/szsb1DXCQ2 #police #socialControl | Mar 27 12:37 | |
| schestowitz | " futurist Robert Scoble " | Mar 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 27 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Futirust | Mar 27 12:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.datamation.com/events/virtual-reality-vs.-augmented-reality-robert-scoble.html | Mar 27 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Virtual Reality vs. Augmented Reality: Robert Scoble - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/oopj8 ] | Mar 27 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introduction to KDE Muon Discover, The Kubuntu | Mar 27 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Center | Mar 27 13:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jWETwnqaUj (www.ubuntubuzz.com) | Mar 27 13:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Introduction to KDE Muon Discover, The Kubuntu Software Center | Mar 27 13:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Ubuntu Edition tablet will be available for | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pre-order on Monday, March 28" | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yAVO5Gd9aH (www.webupd8.org) | Mar 27 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Available To Pre-Order On Monday ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Mar 27 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenWrt 15.05 (Linux Based Router OS) Has Been | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/LAHLiu7hnA (linuxg.net) | Mar 27 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oopln | Mar 27 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | OpenWrt 15.05 (Linux Based Router OS) Has Been Released | LinuxG.net | Mar 27 13:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/714067543556759552 | Mar 27 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: .@schestowitz could it be "torified"? If not it is just another #NSA tool. | Mar 27 13:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8491 | Mar 27 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Guix - News: GNOME in GuixSD [Savannah] | Mar 27 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dedoimedo on Fedora: https://t.co/C0LHObahRO | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dedoimedo on Fedora: | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Real Computer vs Virtual Computer Performance | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Showdown | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Q6o7VcTCo2 (www.youtube.com) | Mar 27 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Real Computer vs Virtual Computer Performance Showdown - YouTube | Mar 27 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sidewalk man must love debian | Mar 27 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wzxA8cXd8U (imgur.com) | Mar 27 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Sidewalk man must love debian - Imgur | Mar 27 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmpy_awake/status/714070294126833664 | Mar 27 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmpy_awake: #Japan just replaced their Java applet for tax filing with an ActiveX one… 2016 yet ActiveX… #Microsoft https://t.co/OdvTCIR51T | Mar 27 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #japan chooses to be prisoner of #microsoft https://t.co/YUZWBbRMDP like #korea before that. Microsoft still hates the Web. | Mar 27 13:47 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/9X43BaV.jpg | Mar 27 13:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7179029 | Mar 27 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 27 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Twitter, Tumbler, and Facebook should be banned from D* - they already exist everywhere else. Some of us enjoy having a place to go where those things - aren't." | Mar 27 14:07 |
| cubexyz | that's stupid... requiring activex for tax filing | Mar 27 14:08 |
| cubexyz | I've been using ufile through firefox on linux for the last few years (in Canada) | Mar 27 14:09 |
| cubexyz | on the other hand, there's Plamo Linux which is a Japanese slackware distribution | Mar 27 14:13 |
| cubexyz | I try to fixate on the positive | Mar 27 14:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/donkeredagen/status/714078017086234624 | Mar 27 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@donkeredagen: @schestowitz @glynmoody Recent poll shows 25% Dutch dont mind. #flabbergasted. https://t.co/wCdOuVJA4z | Mar 27 14:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@donkeredagen: @schestowitz @glynmoody Recent poll shows 25% Dutch dont mind. #flabbergasted. https://t.co/wCdOuVJA4z | Mar 27 14:14 | |
| cubexyz | I am a bit surprised to hear that Japan is still windows-centric | Mar 27 14:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linus-windows-7-does-not-rock.jpg | Mar 27 14:24 |
| schestowitz | https://mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html | Mar 27 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mako.cc | To Fork or Not To Fork: Lessons From Ubuntu and Debian :: Benjamin Mako Hill [ http://ur1.ca/oopsz ] | Mar 27 14:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bhrme/debian_project_leader_elections_2016_why_only_one/ https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_001 | Mar 27 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian Project Leader Elections 2016 - why only one candidate this year? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oopt5 ] | Mar 27 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.debian.org/vote/2016/vote_001 ) | Mar 27 14:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 2016 Debian Project Leader election | Mar 27 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sSf5pywmCf (lwn.net) | Mar 27 14:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | The 2016 Debian Project Leader election [LWN.net] | Mar 27 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Mar 27 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZH0OrSNgH2 (www.networkworld.com) | Mar 27 14:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Getting to know the man leading Fedora | Network World | Mar 27 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Tablet Will Be Available To Pre-Order On | Mar 27 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Monday https://t.co/MjkrxT6KWK | Mar 27 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Mar 27 14:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Tablet Will Be Available To Pre-Order On Monday - OMG! Ubuntu! | Mar 27 14:45 | |
| amarsh04 | I've had great help from Japanese kernel developers and a Japanese Debian package maintainer but Linux doesn't seem to be used in their own projects as much (e.g. JAXA, their space agency or their meteorological agency) | Mar 27 14:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE Interface Switcher Walkthrough plus | Mar 27 15:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What's New for 16.04 | Mar 27 15:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6hMnJ2JtR7 (www.youtube.com) | Mar 27 15:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Ubuntu MATE Interface Switcher Walkthrough plus What's New for 16.04 - YouTube | Mar 27 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q: Is Puppylinux 4k Ready? A: Mostly, yes. | Mar 27 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UXiYMeCM8t (q5sys.sh) | Mar 27 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q5sys.sh | Q: Is Puppylinux 4k Ready? A: Mostly, yes. | Mar 27 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714090644835340290 | Mar 27 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz We put a fence around our house built out of glass windows. We're shocked people manage to throw rocks over our fence! | Mar 27 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cooking a Linux Kernel with Distcc | Mar 27 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/92Cj7U5H1t (www.crankyotaku.com) | Mar 27 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "reduced to about 1/4th on subsequent compiles | Mar 27 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with the use of ccache." | Mar 27 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crankyotaku.com | Cranky Otaku: Cooking a Linux Kernel with Distcc | Mar 27 15:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trying to do normal stuff with SELinux enabled | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kdreOk8Kh3 | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (devopsreactions.tumblr.com) | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devopsreactions.tumblr.com | Trying to do normal stuff with SELinux enabled - DevOps Reactions | Mar 27 15:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Multiplayer Streaming with Open Broadcaster | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multiplatform | Multi-stream | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QE1hS6RC7r (www.youtube.com) | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Multiplayer Streaming with Open Broadcaster Multiplatform | Multi-stream - YouTube | Mar 27 15:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android N Preview for Android TV Now Supports | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Multiple Accounts and More | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LRdvhnr6YB | Mar 27 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.nashvillechatterclass.com) | Mar 27 15:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nashvillechatterclass.com | Android N Preview for Android TV Now Supports Multiple Accounts and More | Mar 27 15:23 | |
| schestowitz | > https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-fights-for-mega-millions-in-u-s-appeals-court-160326/ | Mar 27 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | Kim Dotcom Fights For "Mega Millions" in U.S. Appeals Court - TorrentFreak | Mar 27 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz | > Remind me again how his business model was any different than Box or | Mar 27 15:34 |
| schestowitz | > Dropbox or the others? | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Let's assume for a moment that the US isn't just trying to ruin the person for his attitude. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Assume... | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I suppose his reluctance or hands-off approach towards takedowns was the issue, lack of obedience. If privacy of users is honoured, this in inevitable. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Mar 27 15:35 | |
| schestowitz | > == | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > Have a good Easter. I think there will not be much mainstream news | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > published because of the holiday. It probably won't pick up until Wed. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'm catching up with some stuff. | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > PS. You were considering looking up Spanish history, perhaps the | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | > Reconquista. Has the library or bookstore yielded good material on that? | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I think history (for me) is best left to Wikipedia, with all its flaws. History can be forgotten even if you learn it and there's too much for it to learn anyway... | Mar 27 15:35 |
| schestowitz | The important thing is the method of retrieving relevant information. | Mar 27 15:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It's time to make Android bloatware disappear: | Mar 27 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | You're Doing It All Wrong | Mar 27 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TTbjm2XJYU (www.cnet.com) | Mar 27 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | It's time to make Android bloatware disappear video - CNET | Mar 27 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/PJAjZTNNws | Mar 27 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/zz8XypY1eR | Mar 27 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Debian and Derivatives | Mar 27 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/OiPKhRY6C7 | Mar 27 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 27 16:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 27/3/2016: Mageia 6 and Parsix GNU/Linux | Mar 27 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 8.10 on Their Way https://t.co/gmd5HCVgaJ | Mar 27 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 27 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/3/2016: Mageia 6 and Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 on Their Way | Techrights | Mar 27 16:51 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459075025270#c7723125156657477680 | Mar 27 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times | Mar 27 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm happy that my comments remind Old Sad of: | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | "....an old litigation lawyer who repeatedly said that the patent proprietor discovers the scope of his patent, the day he goes to court." | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, that is still the reality, however much Old Sad might wish it were not. | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | However, as I also wrote, the White Book of case law from DG3 is the jewel in the crown of European patent law. Not DG1 but DG3 decides what is obvious and what is not. From time to time, decisions of opposition divisions get reversed by a Board of Appeal. But because of the Problem and Solution Approach, and the clarity of DG3 thinking on what is meant by the "disclosure" of a document, this is less likely than in other jurisdictions. Long | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | may that remain so. Would that national courts defer more to the jurisprudence in the White Book and the "Established Caselaw of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO". It would help legal certainty in Europe. | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | But meanwhile, from time to time, national courts do revoke patents upheld by both DG1 and DG3. When advising clients, this then is the reality I have to explain to them. In the end, I'm writing claims that will both cover the infringement and survive all attacks on validity, even after discovery and cross-examination. The claims are no use if they achieve one (of valid and infringed) but not the other. This is the reality, and the squeeze, | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | outside the EPO. | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | The call for "Would that national courts defer more to the jurisprudence in the White Book and the "Established Caselaw of the Boards of Appeal of the EPO". It would help legal certainty in Europe." sounds like a call for stare decisis. | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Something that you claim does not work. | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | The dichotomy in what you post continues without abatement. | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Do you even realize this, or is this more of your "be[ing] provocative"...? | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/714118797892845568 | Mar 27 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jsalsman: @schestowitz cc ^ | Mar 27 16:57 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Upcoming Android Smartphones 2016: Samsung | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Galaxy Note 6, Huawei P9, One Plus 3, Moto X | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2016 And More https://t.co/3wfJNPsTFe | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techtimes.com) | Mar 27 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Upcoming Android Smartphones 2016: Samsung Galaxy Note 6, Huawei P9, One Plus 3, Moto X 2016 And More : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Gaming in GNU/Linux is growing rapidly. So is | Mar 27 17:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | use of GNU/Linux for creating software." | Mar 27 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | TOOS Plummets. GNU/Linux Thrives. | Robert Pogson | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.22 Schedule Published This Week | Mar 27 17:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME 3.22 Schedule Published This Week - Phoronix | Mar 27 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 7 Days to Die alpha 14 released, Linux graphics | Mar 27 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | broken again https://t.co/a6bkOBzkSB | Mar 27 17:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 7 Days to Die alpha 14 released, Linux graphics broken again | GamingOnLinux | Mar 27 17:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android Phone 2016: Know The One Which | Mar 27 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Suits You The Best https://t.co/tOsHxKVUOi | Mar 27 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fossbytes.com) | Mar 27 17:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 27 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/filmmakers-cry-censorship-after-robert-deniro-boots-anti-vaxx-movie-from-film-festival/ http://www.inquisitr.com/2931612/robert-de-niro-pulls-controversial-anti-vaccination-film-from-tribeca-film-festival-accused-of-censorship-by-director/ | Mar 27 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Filmmakers cry ‘censorship’ after Robert DeNiro boots anti-vaxx movie from film festival [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkv ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inquisitr.com | Robert De Niro Pulls Controversial Anti-Vaccination Film From Tribeca Film Festival, Accused Of Censorship By Director [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkw ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://deadline.com/2016/03/robert-de-niro-vaxxed-tribeca-film-festival-statement-1201726799/ http://fox61.com/2016/03/27/robert-de-niro-defends-festival-screening-of-anti-vaccine-film/ | Mar 27 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deadline.com | De Niro Defends “Personal” Decision To Screen ‘Vaxxed’ At Film Fest | Deadline [ http://ur1.ca/ooqkx ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fox61.com | Robert De Niro defends festival screening of anti-vaccine film | FOX 61 [ http://ur1.ca/ooqky ] | Mar 27 17:57 | |
| schestowitz | "“My intent in screening this film was to provide an opportunity for conversation around an issue that is deeply personal to me and my family,” De Niro said in a statement. “But after reviewing it over the past few days with the Tribeca Film Festival team and others from the scientific community, we do not believe it contributes to or furthers the discussion I had hoped for.”" | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | "That the film was made by the person blamed by some and credited by others for the anti-vaccine movement makes it propaganda, not documentary film, critics say." | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | quite a dilemma | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | screen stuff that makes people less safe? | Mar 27 17:58 |
| schestowitz | for the sake of pseudo-science along with free speech? I guess that religious firms are acceptable, so why not this? Maybe quality control... | Mar 27 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/714140649877057536 | Mar 27 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Then why are there isolationist democrats and open-borders autocrats? https://t.co/y9JfvPHJPR | Mar 27 18:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "National isolation is the desire of every dictator: If his subjects never see what a freer society looks like" https://t.co/kue6YlbSs3 | Mar 27 18:56 | |
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| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lennart_Poettering&oldid=702614229 | Mar 27 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lennart Poettering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ooraq ] | Mar 27 21:05 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice animal | Mar 27 22:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Nationality Smurf | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Occupation Bloatware generator | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Employer NSA | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Known for Cr@p software | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I see the rest now | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Well, to be fair, his employer works with the NSA | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | and the NSA keeps a close eye on systemd, based on an article highlighted in phoroni | Mar 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 27 22:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/pusickina-lobistica-za-un-u-sredistu-medunarodnog-skandala-908177 | Mar 27 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dnevno.hr | Pusićkina lobistica za UN u središtu međunarodnog skandala | Dnevno.hr | Mar 27 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | new | Mar 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | techrights cited a lot | Mar 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | can anyone here understand croatian? | Mar 27 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 27 22:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts | Mar 27 22:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | Do you know someone who is capable of translating the article below into | Mar 27 22:32 |
| schestowitz | English? Semantics matter more than English grammar, Google translations | Mar 27 22:32 |
| schestowitz | can distort the information. | Mar 27 22:32 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-performance-1-application-pendency.html?showComment=1459096059791#c3000122554248201365 | Mar 27 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO Performance 1 - application pendency times [ http://ur1.ca/oorzr ] | Mar 27 22:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I must admit that I have only read the last few postings. But what struck me very negatively are the personal attacks on MaxDrei, whereas I cannot see any such personal attacks from him. Not in the last few postings anyway. If he thinks his clients need something, why contradict? May be he has clients with different needs than you have? Also his remark about the decisions of DG3 is not rigid at all. I see it as a call for a more uniform | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | application of the law, so that decisions become more predictable, making the life of a patent agent and the life of the client easier. What is wrong with that? But yes, if you look for some other interpretation, no doubt you'll find it and attacking on the basis of that interpretation is perfectly possible. But is it fair? On top, especially US anon should realise that many posters here do not have English as their mother tongue, or even as | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | their first or second foreign language. I don't know about MaxDrei, but I think reading the postings with a mind willing to understand (as claims are supposedly being read) is a fair and pleasant attitude. Please keep it civil. | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Eposad | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 27 22:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/712362118134239234 https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/712361325767348224 | Mar 27 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @bastianbest @MannySchecter Does non-obvious imply some technical problem is solved by technical means? The question needs clarity as ... | Mar 27 23:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @bastianbest @MannySchecter It might solve a technical problem with the hardware, but no technical problem as a bare method. | Mar 27 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnAlty1/status/710571515348164609 | Mar 27 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnAlty1: @Twpalovi @EPOorg I'm sure it will be. It was read out in open session. Staff reps present. | Mar 27 23:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/robert_fietzke/status/703892056293437441 | Mar 27 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robert_fietzke: Nazi-Plakate vor Flüchtlingsheimen in #Magdeburg: "Wir hängen nicht nur Plakate". Unfassbar! #ltwlsa https://t.co/5BezrzZkmQ | Mar 27 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@robert_fietzke: Nazi-Plakate vor Flüchtlingsheimen in #Magdeburg: "Wir hängen nicht nur Plakate". Unfassbar! #ltwlsa https://t.co/5BezrzZkmQ | Mar 27 23:13 | |
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| schestowitz | 'It ain`t the parts of the Bible that I can`t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. | Mar 27 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Mark Twain | Mar 27 23:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Budgie Desktop 10.2.5 Lands with a Multitude of | Mar 27 23:35 |
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| gde33 | schestowitz: I'm not all that experienced with them but there are some software tools to translate applications. (I vaguely remember Pootle) Usually these have a community of translators. | Mar 28 00:27 |
| schestowitz | gde33: I might have someone around who can help | Mar 28 00:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Good things come to those who wait… Mageia 6 | Mar 28 01:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dev1 is here. https://t.co/uGY4yVv3gK | Mar 28 01:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mageia.org | Good things come to those who wait… Mageia 6 dev1 is here. | Mageia Blog (English) | Mar 28 01:52 | |
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| schestowitz | “Total control” sounds good until you realize what it actually means: total control. | Mar 28 08:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Galaxy S7 review: this is the Android | Mar 28 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | phone you’ve been waiting for | Mar 28 09:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-siliconangle.com | Samsung Galaxy S7 review: this is the Android phone you’ve been waiting for | SiliconANGLE | Mar 28 09:33 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Warsow 2.1 First-Person Shooter Game Released for Easter with Many Changes | Mar 28 09:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meld 3.15.2 Diff and Merge App Released with | Mar 28 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GTK+ 3.20 and XDG-App Support, More | Mar 28 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tl03XjmB3k (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 09:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Meld 3.15.2 Diff and Merge App Released with GTK+ 3.20 and XDG-App Support, More | Mar 28 09:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=First-Skylake-Mobo-To-Fail | Mar 28 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The First Skylake Motherboard To Fail Me: Goes Kaput After Just 4 Months - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/oovdg ] | Mar 28 09:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gurnaik/status/714371550762430464 | Mar 28 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gurnaik: Use this application quite a lot. https://t.co/BvipDrmzKh | Mar 28 09:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Meld 3.15.2 #Diff and Merge App Released with GTK+ 3.20 and XDG-App Support, More https://t.co/NNmjT3jwpF #gtk #gnome | Mar 28 09:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Meld 3.15.2 Diff and Merge App Released with...' | Mar 28 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Infinix Hot 2 (Android One) Update Includes a | Mar 28 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | “RAM Booster” https://t.co/V3iMfq8W2m | Mar 28 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Infinix Hot 2 (Android One) Update Includes a "RAM Booster" | Mar 28 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Project Leader elections 2016 | Mar 28 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vepMLJnHTa (bits.debian.org) | Mar 28 10:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bits.debian.org/2016/03/dpl-elections-2016.html ) | Mar 28 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beware unofficial apps: why Android malware | Mar 28 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | won’t go away https://t.co/kR5FbSqpo4 | Mar 28 10:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidpit.com) people actually install it | Mar 28 10:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Beware unofficial apps: why Android malware won't go away - AndroidPIT | Mar 28 10:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines group test: Raspberry Pi Robots | Mar 28 10:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'The First Ubuntu Tablet, BQ Aquaris M10, Is...' | Mar 28 11:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/1wi2608bwA | Mar 28 11:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/thisDaveJ/status/714394494737625088 | Mar 28 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@thisDaveJ: Impressive tiny computer for $39. Runs #openwrt. https://t.co/ggSGVfotbE | Mar 28 11:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #VoCore : A Cheap And Coin-sized Linux Computer With Wi-Fi https://t.co/SlqN9FlPli #linux | Mar 28 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/esmeraldadereth/status/714397454234488832 | Mar 28 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@esmeraldadereth: Interesting analysis: Confrontation & compassion can work together #USelections2016 https://t.co/ePmjtHIeTB | Mar 28 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The gathering storm of white supremacy" https://t.co/fIIEVMWH35 | Mar 28 11:31 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7182873 | Mar 28 11:48 |
| schestowitz | "Does that mean that they do not add it to their repository?" | Mar 28 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's Looking Like Debian 9.0 Stretch Won't Support OwnCloud http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-Stretch-OwnCloud #debian #owncloud #gnu #linux | Mar 28 11:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | It's Looking Like Debian 9.0 Stretch Won't Support OwnCloud - Phoronix | Mar 28 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | "Looks like Upstream doesn’t do standard release practices." | Mar 28 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The First Ubuntu Tablet, BQ Aquaris M10, Is | Mar 28 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Pre-Order Now | Mar 28 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qQ5xRUOppm (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 12:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The First Ubuntu Tablet, BQ Aquaris M10, Is Available for Pre-Order Now | Tux Machines | Mar 28 12:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MIUI 7.2.8 China ROM Based on Android 6.0 | Mar 28 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marshmallow Starts Rolling Out | Mar 28 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H0ChklW8Wa (gadgets.ndtv.com) | Mar 28 12:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | MIUI 7.2.8 China ROM Based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow Starts Rolling Out | NDTV Gadgets360.com | Mar 28 12:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Here is the most profound change that happened | Mar 28 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Android when Andy Rubin left and Sundar | Mar 28 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pichai took over Google https://t.co/bbFW4OLPPT | Mar 28 16:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Here is the most profound change that happened to Android when Andy Rubin left and Sundar Pichai took over Google | Mar 28 16:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source in the enterprise: Perspectives for | Mar 28 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CIOs https://t.co/FcAOnX57ux | Mar 28 16:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source in the enterprise: Perspectives for CIOs | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS | Mar 28 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Optimized for Audio Production | Mar 28 16:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS Optimized for Audio Production | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman | Mar 28 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 16:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other | Mar 28 16:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Investing Options https://t.co/9ZD6Ns8a65 | Mar 28 16:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other Investing Options | Tux Machines | Mar 28 16:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS...' | Mar 28 16:30 | |
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| mahydraal_ | hello everyone | Mar 28 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: hi | Mar 28 17:06 |
| mahydraal_ | so what goes on in here? | Mar 28 17:06 |
| mahydraal_ | i just stumbled across this site a bit ago and got curious | Mar 28 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Well, stuff :) | Mar 28 17:15 |
| mahydraal_ | what would that be? | Mar 28 17:34 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Politics, foreign politics, local politics, politics around GNU/Linux | Mar 28 17:35 |
| mahydraal_ | are we the only currently active anons here? | Mar 28 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | that about sums it up :) | Mar 28 17:36 |
| mahydraal_ | where is everybodt? | Mar 28 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Today the channel is kinda quiet yes. Odd. | Mar 28 17:36 |
| mahydraal_ | so what is on everyones mind? | Mar 28 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: It's not a quiet channel generally, so it really is odd :). | Mar 28 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | I have slapping GNOME developers in their faces in my mind | Mar 28 17:38 |
| mahydraal_ | why? | Mar 28 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: They broke themes again. | Mar 28 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | in Gtk 3.20 | Mar 28 17:46 |
| mahydraal_ | seriously? | Mar 28 17:46 |
| MinceR | they still have themes? | Mar 28 17:47 |
| mahydraal_ | how? | Mar 28 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | mahydraal_: Yep, they did. This time on a major scale. | Mar 28 17:47 |
| MinceR | i thought letting the user have choice was bad :> | Mar 28 17:47 |
| MinceR | gtk has jumped the shark anyway | Mar 28 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | Themes have to be reworked basically from scratch. | Mar 28 17:47 |
| mahydraal_ | leh sigh.... | Mar 28 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | The most memorable part is… | Mar 28 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update | Mar 28 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update ) | Mar 28 17:49 | |
| XRevan86 | >> Oh NO! they’re breaking themes again! | Mar 28 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | > Which is certainly one way to look at it, but I think it misses the point a little bit – since the effort is actually meant to make life easier for anybody who wants to change the appearance of GTK+ widgets. | Mar 28 17:49 |
| MinceR | (javascript) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fast-nein-the-fast-the-fuhrer#/ | Mar 28 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiegogo.com | Fast Nein: The Fast & The Führer | Indiegogo | Mar 28 17:49 | |
| XRevan86 | xxx: Oh NO! They're censoring the Internet! | Mar 28 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | yyy: Which is certainly one way to look at it, but I think it misses the point a little bit – since the effort is actually meant to make life easier for anybody who wants to publish everything on Internet. | Mar 28 17:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 28 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | s/everything/anything/ | Mar 28 17:51 |
| *XRevan86 never appreciated Pink Floyd – Obscured by Clouds | Mar 28 17:59 | |
| XRevan86 | and it's actually a pretty good album | Mar 28 17:59 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Mar 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | not a single song | Mar 28 18:09 |
| MinceR | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/990/005/721.jpg | Mar 28 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Idiocratia, I see. | Mar 28 18:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/714507445914173442 | Mar 28 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: https://t.co/qw6RhRn8Z3 | Mar 28 18:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | People Sent to Prison After Corruption Charges Over Microsoft Licences in Romanian Schools | Techrights | Mar 28 18:41 | |
| MinceR | idiocracy :> | Mar 28 18:44 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman...' | Mar 28 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @libagar followed @tuxmachines | Mar 28 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel | Mar 28 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 18:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman 5.0.1 Before April 23, 2016 | Mar 28 19:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Investing Options https://t.co/wFlOlD5pBY | Mar 28 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.thestreet.com) | Mar 28 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com | Red Hat’s Open-Source Success Points to Other Investing Options - TheStreet | Mar 28 19:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uld76qvgNf (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS and AMD Crimson 15.12 | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Calamares team is happy to announce the | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | immediate availability of Calamares 2.2" | Mar 28 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JBPGreoZZY (calamares.io) | Mar 28 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-calamares.io | Calamares 2.2 is out – Calamares – A distribution independent installer framework | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AV Linux 2016 Officially Released, a Debian OS...' | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Users Urged to Update to Pacman...' | Mar 28 19:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Sabayon 16.04 Linux Brings Kernel 4.4.6 LTS...' | Mar 28 19:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Stali distribution smashes assumptions about | Mar 28 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux https://t.co/pPPv7BNqEV | Mar 28 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.infoworld.com) | Mar 28 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Stali distribution smashes assumptions about Linux | InfoWorld | Mar 28 19:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/03/possible_govern.html | Mar 28 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Possible Government Demand for WhatsApp Backdoor - Schneier on Security [ http://ur1.ca/ooyr9 ] | Mar 28 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Two Worlds 3 in development, Two Worlds 2 comes | Mar 28 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Linux/SteamOS https://t.co/OikWF6bT3Y | Mar 28 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.pcgamer.com) | Mar 28 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcgamer.com | Two Worlds 3 in development, Two Worlds 2 comes to Linux/SteamOS - PC Gamer | Mar 28 19:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More BQ Aquaris M10 https://t.co/zdJs6reonV | Mar 28 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More BQ Aquaris M10 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 19:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines VoCore Debut https://t.co/8JshQYmQF7 | Mar 28 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 19:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VoCore Debut | Tux Machines | Mar 28 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/714526777335537664 | Mar 28 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: #WhatsApp может помочь сервисам Intel "по требованию" расшифровывать защищенный трафик. https://t.co/KfdcZchVUD | Mar 28 19:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WhatsApp can help intel' services with MITM 'on demand' https://t.co/83vB2ldw0i | Mar 28 19:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora's Rawhide Nodebug Kernel Is Now On Linux | Mar 28 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 https://t.co/hRn0SKDROB (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 20:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora's Rawhide Nodebug Kernel Is Now On Linux 4.6 - Phoronix | Mar 28 20:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The NVIDIA GTX 900 Series Performance On The | Mar 28 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Nouveau Driver | Mar 28 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RMGopCZhoX (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 20:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The NVIDIA GTX 900 Series Performance On The Open-Source Nouveau Driver - Phoronix | Mar 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The @linuxfoundation enables remote access to | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | its events https://t.co/VK2WVjfg43 | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) https://t.co/za2cf0XhZo | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Mar 28 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Watch Collaboration Summit Live Via Free Streaming Video | Linux.com | Mar 28 20:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Get the Latest on SDN & NFV, Watch the Open Networking Summit 2016 Recap | Linux.com | Mar 28 20:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gunvolt_linux/status/714539997496532993 | Mar 28 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gunvolt_linux: @schestowitz @quix0rquitter GREEN PARTY OR UNAFFILIATED | Mar 28 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jurasick/status/714541084861456384 | Mar 28 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jurasick: @schestowitz We might as well rename them Mother Clinton. Old lady Mary Harris Jones is probably spinning in her grave | Mar 28 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | It all happened quite recently, more recently than #MediaMatters getting PAC/Clinton money to become her mouthpiece. #motherjones | Mar 28 20:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7187932 | Mar 28 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DIRNSA (the #nsa Director) in #israel while all journalists are busy having #easter holiday https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/714493369259573249 | Mar 28 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: @BarakRavid Maybe. DIRNSA isn't SECSTATE: if not multilateral (ceremonial), "discussion" usually means agreements. | Mar 28 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | Pfff… nothing that special about such meetings. | Mar 28 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Also note that Easter is not a holiday in Israel (Passover is, but it will be much later this year). | Mar 28 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 28 21:15 |
| schestowitz | That's my point | Mar 28 21:15 |
| cubexyz | what's a good replacement for facebook? | Mar 28 21:32 |
| cubexyz | not happy with it | Mar 28 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Alternative for what? | Mar 28 21:34 |
| cubexyz | for facebook... something similar to facebook that doesn't suck | Mar 28 21:34 |
| cubexyz | http://on.rt.com/78e0 | Mar 28 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rt.com | Russian chess prodigy wins thrilling Moscow cliffhanger to challenge for world title in NYC — RT Sport | Mar 28 21:34 | |
| cubexyz | I can't even clipboard URLs into fb | Mar 28 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: But being suck is in Facebook's nature now. | Mar 28 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | so if you want something similiar to Facebook, you want it to suck | Mar 28 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | and if you want it to suck but you specify that it has to not suck… | Mar 28 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | then we have a problem | Mar 28 21:36 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: irc :) | Mar 28 21:37 |
| cubexyz | maybe Diaspora? | Mar 28 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Windows | Mar 28 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 Released – Here’s What’s New | Mar 28 21:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5YlFdP0TjY (linuxscoop.com) | Mar 28 21:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | KDE Plasma 5.6 Released - Here's What's New - Linux Scoop | Mar 28 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Mar 28 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QlJDt6o9nc (distrowatch.com) | Mar 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | well, there's gnu social too | Mar 28 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Mar 28 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Z1 updated to Tizen 2.4 in India – | Mar 28 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | version Z130HDDU0CPC4 https://t.co/OM53Ako0pM | Mar 28 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 28 21:38 |
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| MinceR | though i have no idea if it can work as well as statusnet used to | Mar 28 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z1 updated to Tizen 2.4 in India - version Z130HDDU0CPC4 - Tizen Experts | Mar 28 21:38 | |
| MinceR | (lightweight web pages, no need for javascript, usable conversation view) | Mar 28 21:38 |
| MinceR | (the instances i've seen recently were all javascript-only wannabe twitter crap) | Mar 28 21:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: joindiaspora changed owners | Mar 28 21:44 |
| schestowitz | and left AWS | Mar 28 21:44 |
| schestowitz | moved to Germany some days ago, it's now a little better | Mar 28 21:44 |
| MinceR | i don't know diaspora well either, i've only seen single posts and comments on them | Mar 28 21:45 |
| MinceR | it also seems to rely on javascript more than statusnet did | Mar 28 21:45 |
| cubexyz | gnu social seems to be a big bloated thing | Mar 28 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's getting cleaned up | Mar 28 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | it already doesn't require JS :) | Mar 28 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | (StatusNet did) | Mar 28 21:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, I check it out | Mar 28 21:48 |
| MinceR | nice | Mar 28 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android “microG” aims to cut out Google (sort | Mar 28 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of) https://t.co/iLRnLAWe4O (www.slashgear.com) | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashgear.com | Android “microG” aims to cut out Google (sort of) - SlashGear | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "The Linux vendor keeps growing" unlike | Mar 28 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft says a Microsoft-connected site | Mar 28 21:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKWm4HGBcI (www.fool.com) | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.com | How Red Hat, Inc. Keeps the Good Times Rolling -- Regardless of Sector Headwinds -- The Motley Fool | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/jFfGglnckF | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS 2016.03 "MATE" | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free Tech Refresher: OSS Isn’t Always FOSS | Mar 28 21:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Tech Refresher: OSS Isn’t Always FOSS | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle seeks $9.3 billion for Google’s use of | Mar 28 22:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Java in Android https://t.co/R5Q7ZkbOfl | Mar 28 22:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle seeks $9.3 billion for Google’s use of Java in Android | Tux Machines | Mar 28 22:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big Data https://t.co/8m0tY0cBZr | Mar 28 22:11 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Fedora Linux Is Looking To Become More Modular...' | Mar 28 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 28/3/2016: BQ Aquaris M10, VoCore | Mar 28 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/ery9YEOCJ3 (techrights.org) | Mar 28 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2016: BQ Aquaris M10, VoCore | Techrights | Mar 28 22:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/OUcqW0kIqB | Mar 28 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software https://t.co/WOUTxvyMH5 | Mar 28 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/vIufPkt1DF | Mar 28 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 28 23:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CarlForrest favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/OLkaqVASGg' | Mar 28 23:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Darkest Dungeon Gothic Roguelike Turn-Based RPG | Mar 28 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Linux Public Beta https://t.co/uodqvYnikb | Mar 28 23:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Darkest Dungeon Gothic Roguelike Turn-Based RPG Gets Linux Public Beta | Mar 28 23:38 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 29 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LisonHanna/status/714750778628509696 https://twitter.com/Limportant_fr/status/714750847817748481 https://twitter.com/Limportant_fr/status/714750851169038336 | Mar 29 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LisonHanna: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 https://t.co/qLnuMVyksu @schestowitz #c https://t.co/pVroWb7ZhC | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.artnet.com | Report Details ensorship in 2015 - artnet News | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LisonHanna: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 https://t.co/qLnuMVyksu @schestowitz #c https://t.co/pVroWb7ZhC | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP https://t.co/TetVg5K00z | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> limportant.fr | Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP https://t.co/TetVg5K00z | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Limportant_fr: @schestowitz Votre 1er tweet a été sélectionné par L'important https://t.co/Dz467ejFYP | Mar 29 10:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu | Mar 29 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 16.04 LTS Beta for IBM LinuxONE | Mar 29 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4czKKgvUDg (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 10:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Beta for IBM LinuxONE | Mar 29 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/revuedepresse30/status/714751988920094721 | Mar 29 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@revuedepresse30: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/THdqkONy34 https://t.co/AoeD6NrYSB | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> positifvortex.wordpress.com | Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz | Positif Vortex | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@revuedepresse30: Art : les actes de censure ont augmenté de 224% en 2015 @schestowitz https://t.co/THdqkONy34 https://t.co/AoeD6NrYSB | Mar 29 10:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, | Mar 29 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Adds a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PCj3YK1vyK (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 11:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, Adds a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces the Availability of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS...' | Mar 29 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189102 | Mar 29 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: 11 Outstanding Backup Utilities for Linux Systems http://www.tecmint.com/linux-system-backup-tools/ | Mar 29 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Every Linux Backup Ranking List, which doesn’t mention Clonezilla is incomplete." | Mar 29 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tecmint.com | 11 Outstanding Backup Utilities For Linux Systems [ http://ur1.ca/op7ci ] | Mar 29 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714762557077266433 | Mar 29 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Compliance is always in the hands of the end user. We don't really need firmware saying, "I'm sorry, Dave." | Mar 29 11:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/714766751892955136 | Mar 29 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz Before Nixon, American anti-drug movement was driven by racists claiming drugs made non-whites more dangerous. | Mar 29 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/crookedgop/status/714767508079820800 | Mar 29 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@crookedgop: @BrianGPowell https://t.co/2rZhBeEDDI | Mar 29 12:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Helping #billgates destroy US public #education system for his selfish domination and profit https://t.co/v1pIh4mpFe https://t.co/VlB48Exg46 | Mar 29 12:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux-Based Apricity OS Gets New Beta, Adds...' | Mar 29 12:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://opensource.com/life/16/3/poll-where-do-you-back-up-your-data | Mar 29 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Where do you back up your data? | Opensource.com | Mar 29 12:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/714776617969664000 | Mar 29 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The main tenet of free software: user is king. https://t.co/nvrwJXKRmH | Mar 29 12:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their own computing destiny' https://t.co/J39RANu1M8 #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Mar 29 12:31 | |
| schestowitz | free ad http://www.albanydailystar.com/technology/microsoft-corporation-famous-db-solution-mssql-server-arrives-linux-bakersfield-tekno-time-17448.html | Mar 29 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albanydailystar.com | Microsoft Corporation famous DB solution , MSSQL Server arrives Linux - Bakersfield Tekno Time | Mar 29 12:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sine_injuria/status/714780333644840961 | Mar 29 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sine_injuria: #ZOG #Argentina #TeleSur #Censorship #NWO https://t.co/dswEihNHFU | Mar 29 12:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #argentina stomping on competing ideology https://t.co/4K1pD6jF5b https://t.co/sbm1EDGU7i https://t.co/LzAzULCc97 https://t.co/4WSYKfbkud | Mar 29 12:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their | Mar 29 13:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | own computing destiny' https://t.co/5TROfvNe1S | Mar 29 13:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Fedora leader: 'We want users to control their own computing destiny' | Network World | Mar 29 13:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Mar 29 13:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Techrights | Mar 29 13:13 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 https://t.co/5l27Lo2GTu' | Mar 29 13:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/xvAzJd0lQ1 | Mar 29 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Mar 29 13:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/X6WIcpSQp1 | Mar 29 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Mar 29 13:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/bfqdZ7v812 | Mar 29 14:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/TM0o0rxmLJ | Mar 29 14:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 29 14:03 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 29 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 29/3/2016: Git 2.8, Budgie 10.2.5 | Mar 29 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/5l27Lo2GTu (techrights.org) | Mar 29 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts | Mar 29 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/714868745399873536 | Mar 29 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz Hmmm maybe we can replace Gene Quinn for the change, can't we? | Mar 29 18:43 | |
| schestowitz | He's very rude, he also blocked me on Twitter. Gene Quinn is an arrogant blowhard, say even people in his circle. | Mar 29 18:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.managingip.com/Article/3541093/UK-design-fees-will-be-cheaper.html | Mar 29 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | UK design fees will be cheaper | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 29 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/714872874297925632 | Mar 29 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz I will put it gentle here, he is a provocateur, no more no less! | Mar 29 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | I hope #patent examiners and judges don't take Gene Quinn seriously. He's like a weapons manufacturer talking about war. | Mar 29 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SanDisk and Red Hat Form Strategic Alliance to | Mar 29 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Deliver High-Performance Flash-based Ceph | Mar 29 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Storage Solutions https://t.co/wqTgoTpx0k | Mar 29 20:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | SanDisk and Red Hat Form Strategic Alliance to Deliver High-Performance Flash-based Ceph Storage Solutions | Business Wire | Mar 29 20:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Expands Android Experiments Focus | Mar 29 20:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Google Expands Android Experiments Focus | Mar 29 20:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, | Mar 29 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese | Mar 29 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Migrations https://t.co/Bv9n0ifjdJ | Mar 29 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 29 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights | Mar 29 20:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Todd__Davies favourited 'Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes,...' | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fFAYe3pfrw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opfj1 | Mar 29 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Quali Courts DevOps Community with Open Source | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plugins and Libraries https://t.co/WxlAKOd99M | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opfj6 | Mar 29 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quali Courts DevOps Community with Open Source Plugins and Libraries | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thoughts on Sailfish OS https://t.co/DFhljULzer | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opfj7 | Mar 29 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thoughts on Sailfish OS | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LyZ7ozTSzo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opfja | Mar 29 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Tux Machines | Mar 29 20:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/714894126504943616 | Mar 29 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @schestowitz no, "if you're going to use Linux, it in Windows. We don't want you staying from the path we dictate" | Mar 29 20:33 | |
| MinceR | or to avoid the built-in backdoor | Mar 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | s | Mar 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/714899037397389313 | Mar 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | though cancerd helps with that | Mar 29 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz in Belgium the eID software is open source, even though the code involves Java in the browser. | Mar 29 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Mar 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | RE SMS message, I sent the article to several german publishers, including Katja's.... | Mar 29 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Whether they'll cover it or not, we shall wait and see... | Mar 29 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Let nobody tell you that Europe's patent system is dysfunctional. If you want to see something that really is dysfunctional, follow the Link below, and scroll to the comment thread at #15. | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | As the last commenter in that thread observes, at 15.2.1.1.1.1.1, the Patent Office grants patents on ineligible subject matter, and then itself revokes them as ineligible, on demand from a third party: | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/03/federal-circuit-opinion.html#comments | Mar 29 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://patentlyo.com/patent/2016/03/federal-circuit-opinion.html#comments ) | Mar 29 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | QUOTE^^ | Mar 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/714905449154416642 | Mar 29 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: unacceptable discrimination #EPO https://t.co/c4bF7jC3Fn | Mar 29 21:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @glynmoody Scandalous: European Patent Office Serves Only Microsoft Customers With Filing Software https://t.co/2GGqfoUjTN | Mar 29 21:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | auto data-spaffing https://t.co/gryaxhItYZ | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opghf | Mar 29 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more auto data-spaffing | Tux Machines | Mar 29 21:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux Migrations https://t.co/Bv9n0ifjdJ | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opft1 | Mar 29 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights | Mar 29 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4DRJQw4bjG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgos | Mar 29 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yfVDkC0ott (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgou | Mar 29 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7190789 | Mar 29 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 29 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Ignorance has the potential to shut down a valuable tool for reporters, dissidents, whistleblowers and those who are legitimate and want to be free from the overreach of a government who no longer values the privacy of its citizens. | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Dark Web’s Got a Bad Rep: 7 in 10 People Want It Shut Down, Study Shows #Tor #Privacy #WhistleBlowers | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/2016/03/study-finds-7-10-people-want-dark-web-shut/ | Mar 29 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Dark Web’s Got a Bad Rep: 7 in 10 People Want It Shut Down, Study Shows | WIRED | Mar 29 22:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the headsup | Mar 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189238 | Mar 29 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 29 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | “So a rhetorician could persuade any audience, no matter how intelligent, that he was more of a doctor than a real doctor.” | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | No, only works with dumb people. The dumber the better, even Trump hinted that: | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html | Mar 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Donald Trump: ‘I love the poorly educated’ [ http://ur1.ca/opgpj ] | Mar 29 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | their votes count as equal | Mar 29 22:09 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Yesterday and Today in Techrights https://t.co/yfVDkC0ott' | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 3 hidden shortcuts for typing faster on Android | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1suc8uN6gV (www.computerworld.com) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgre | Mar 29 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | 3 hidden shortcuts for typing faster on Android | Computerworld | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha released! | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1RzGV3plrk (fedoramagazine.org) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cDJ2j6qZCn (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2C80FhIRFQ (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 29 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/ ) | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgrf | Mar 29 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Alpha Officially Released, Includes a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released - Phoronix | Mar 29 22:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux at 25: Q&A With Linus Torvalds | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ux8KaWOemm (spectrum.ieee.org) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1vbChDIqsP (spectrum.ieee.org) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgss | Mar 29 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Linux at 25: Q&A With Linus Torvalds - IEEE Spectrum | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Linux at 25: Why It Flourished While Others Fizzled - IEEE Spectrum | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release, | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Small Bug Fixes https://t.co/sP17lGqw2T | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgst | Mar 29 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release, Brings Small Bug Fixes | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L5MLXJA3Ro | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxblog.darkduck.com) | Mar 29 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgsu | Mar 29 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com | Manjaro 15.12 KDE - close, but not perfect - Linux notes from DarkDuck | Mar 29 22:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Thoughts on Sailfish OS https://t.co/zqwAi8eDYt | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (it.toolbox.com) | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgu8 | Mar 29 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.toolbox.com | Thoughts on Sailfish OS | Mar 29 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hXqE1pzvJM (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 29 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgua | Mar 29 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Ubuntu MATE is having a bit of a Mutiny - TechRepublic | Mar 29 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more | Mar 29 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | auto data-spaffing https://t.co/osDwMXaPVu | Mar 29 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theregister.co.uk) | Mar 29 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgub | Mar 29 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Go nuts, brother: Ubuntu 16.04 beta – no more auto data-spaffing • The Register | Mar 29 22:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FvAW7rTWmn (www.linuxinsider.com) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv1 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Apricity OS Is Clean and Classy | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marrying open source and the enterprise | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ctksmo9beP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv2 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: Marrying open source and the enterprise | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cvISYrlaYt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv3 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Yesterday and Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Marrying open source and the enterprise | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hJtOmaP2IP (www.zdnet.com) | Mar 29 22:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opgv4 | Mar 29 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | The TODO Group and the Linux Foundation: Marrying open source and the enterprise | ZDNet | Mar 29 22:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @CharlotteEstbu1 Your GIFT Matrix of Mind Reality e-book. Grab | Mar 29 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it today. https://t.co/TKIRUVgf52 | Mar 29 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.mindreality.info) #Yoga @tuxmachines | Mar 29 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @edm_stream @mikehesselmial @TayCrossley | Mar 29 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mindreality.info | Mind Reality Secrets | Mar 29 22:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oph0p | Mar 29 22:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Yesterday and Today in Techrights https://t.co/cvISYrlaYt' | Mar 29 22:37 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 30 01:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Devices https://t.co/psrg9LeAu8 | Mar 30 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opklw | Mar 30 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/BeCGSSFzAh | Mar 30 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opklx | Mar 30 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MediaGoblin 0.9.0: The Three Goblineers | Mar 30 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XRguloicuR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 02:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opklz | Mar 30 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MediaGoblin 0.9.0: The Three Goblineers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FFmpeg 3.0 "Einstein" Free Multimedia Backend | Mar 30 02:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gets Its First Point Release | Mar 30 02:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opkz2 | Mar 30 02:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 3.0 "Einstein" Free Multimedia Backend Gets Its First Point Release | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a | Mar 30 02:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Hide Zero Values" Option, More | Mar 30 02:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a "Hide Zero Values" Option, More | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email | Mar 30 02:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | service on Android https://t.co/xeMiwJEK4D | Mar 30 02:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 02:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opkz4 | Mar 30 02:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email service on Android | Tux Machines | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha released! https://t.co/1RzGV3plrk https://t.co/cDJ2j6qZCn https://t.co/2C80FhIRFQ' | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.6 Gets Its First Point Release,...' | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/ ) | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Linux Alpha Officially Released, Includes a Preview of GNOME 3.20 | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Released - Phoronix | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Audacious 3.7.2 Open-Source Music Player Released for Linux...' | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint...' | Mar 30 02:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Cinnamon 2.8.8 Desktop Environment Released for Linux Mint...' | Mar 30 02:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'darktable 2.0.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Lands with...' | Mar 30 02:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Emmabuntus 3 1.03 Educational Linux Distro Is Based...' | Mar 30 02:54 | |
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| MarkBilk | msb_ | Mar 30 06:34 |
| MarkBilk | leg injured; in rehab; using xchat on <gack> windows | Mar 30 06:38 |
| MarkBilk | anybody here? | Mar 30 06:38 |
| MarkBilk | wow hexchat is great! | Mar 30 06:48 |
| *amarsh04_ is here | Mar 30 06:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715090790897356805 | Mar 30 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz But some go: "who cares? It's all profits!" Fees, procedures. Cost for some (the inventors) are gains for others you-know-who. | Mar 30 09:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715091623118561280 | Mar 30 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Being the Devil's advocate here, some patent office has behaved as that would be their aim too. | Mar 30 09:32 | |
| schestowitz | China? France? US? | Mar 30 09:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715096104644255744 | Mar 30 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Water, water....(well, some fire at US...) | Mar 30 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'qBittorrent 3.3.4 Free BitTorrent Client Adds a "Hide...' | Mar 30 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email | Mar 30 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | service on Android https://t.co/3UgLXeWq5u | Mar 30 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 30 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | How to use the ProtonMail encrypted email service on Android - TechRepublic | Mar 30 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/M9E6fLtJZ5 (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opnzr | Mar 30 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation Ships with GNOME 3.20 and Linux Kernel 4.5 - Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715109556544741376 | Mar 30 10:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: EEE at its most blatant. https://t.co/KhFKHwh15M | Mar 30 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft wants everyone to use spyware with a keylogger, even #gnu #linux users https://t.co/AlqIcrsRmW see https://t.co/IYnuzxS5H9 | Mar 30 10:37 | |
| cubexyz | just imagine the poor windows noobs with dialup downloading windows 10 in the background | Mar 30 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715115264497553410 | Mar 30 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Actually he does love (Bill) Clinton, or at least the membership fees he pays for Trump's golf club. | Mar 30 10:56 | |
| schestowitz | based on very old photos | Mar 30 10:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715116055023198209 | Mar 30 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz Hash Brownie Bill was paying the fee as of 2015. I was reinforcing your point. | Mar 30 11:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715117151816912896 | Mar 30 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: The only lesson History teaches us is that no one learns from her. https://t.co/U1lmVnZWXL | Mar 30 11:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #microsoft does not love Linux. Microsoft does not offer 'gifts' to Linux. Get used to it. Learn history. https://t.co/v9hqRQE5Aq | Mar 30 11:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines After a nasty computer virus, sys admin looks | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Linux | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | My Linux Story: Soumya Sarkar | Opensource.com | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Premium Android flip phone Gionee W909 unveiled | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | Premium Android flip phone Gionee W909 unveiled - GSMArena.com news | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beware the Pis of March https://t.co/zjC7LzDOrp | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (fossforce.com) | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Beware the Pis of March | FOSS Force | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged ARM module spec targets harsh | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | environments https://t.co/tl7xvttO4h | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged ARM module spec targets harsh environments | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/OOiOZG6NtO | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines F-Droid, Copperhead, Guardian Project partner | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to create a security-focused, Android-based | Mar 30 11:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ecosystem https://t.co/fpWhPOPKVn | Mar 30 11:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | F-Droid, Copperhead, Guardian Project partner to create a security-focused, Android-based ecosystem | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux is 25, Fedora 24 Alpha, Classy Apricity | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is 25, Fedora 24 Alpha, Classy Apricity | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux alternatives to Windows XP | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux alternatives to Windows XP | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/SBmWJ5kfEA | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 30 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build, Final | Mar 30 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release Launches April 1, 2016 | Mar 30 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IBN7536wF4 (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build, Final Release Launches April 1, 2016 | Mar 30 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194294 | Mar 30 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: After a nasty computer virus, sys admin looks to Linux https://opensource.com/life/16/3/my-linux-story-soumya-sarkar | Mar 30 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | My Linux Story: Soumya Sarkar | Opensource.com | Mar 30 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | I’m looking for ways to open up people’s eyes. I’m using GNU/Linux since 2003 and I’m loving it. | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I stopped assistance (for friends and family) for windows/osx machines and in stead I offer lifetime guaranty on GNU/Linux. Until now nobody ever complained about the Linux Mint I installed on their machines. | Mar 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 11:12 |
| cubexyz | running Mint is hardly ideal | Mar 30 11:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194133 | Mar 30 11:14 |
| schestowitz | "nod. when I realized this, some 6 years ago, I started campaigning for Red Hat to turn its Patent Promise into an actual license, but no luck so far. until this major problem is fixed, no more patent applications from me..." | Mar 30 11:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When you work on #swpats for a company - no matter how benign a company - you never know who will get/use them? #redhat staff, take note. | Mar 30 11:14 | |
| schestowitz | With or without a promise, why spend one's life pursing patents that shouldn't exist in the first place? #swpats | Mar 30 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Inc (RHT) Upgraded to “Strong-Buy” by | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vetr Inc. https://t.co/KoQ6cyW574 | Mar 30 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.sfhfm.org) https://t.co/7BYUGGbRYX | Mar 30 11:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfhfm.org | Red Hat Inc (RHT) Upgraded to “Strong-Buy” by Vetr Inc. - South Florida Hedge Fund Managers | Mar 30 11:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standardtrib.com | How Analysts Rated Red Hat Inc (NYSE:RHT) Last Week? - Standard Tribune | Mar 30 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sMLa14lx1O (mybroadband.co.za) | Mar 30 11:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (uk.businessinsider.com) | Mar 30 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mybroadband.co.za | Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 11:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | Linus Torvalds on not being a visionary - Business Insider | Mar 30 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest HTC 10 Teaser Says to Expect “Fastest | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Smoothest Android” Yet | Mar 30 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zdn8Zkoz5e (www.droid-life.com) | Mar 30 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.droid-life.com | Latest HTC 10 Teaser Says to Expect "Fastest and Smoothest Android" Yet | Droid Life | Mar 30 11:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 | Mar 30 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'soylentnews.org' ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 ) | Mar 30 11:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715130586298466304 | Mar 30 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: If you read through this you might begin to get a bit concerned about something... @schestowitz ... https://t.co/JZxkoTMDqL | Mar 30 12:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Drug Enforcement Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Mar 30 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #LVM Internals https://t.co/xy3s2fpOm8 | Mar 30 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (mo.morsi.org) | Mar 30 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mo.morsi.org | LVM Internals | Morsi dot Org | Mar 30 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | > older: | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/26/inside-netflix-how-reed-hastings-is-building-the-first-global-tv/ | Mar 30 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Inside Netflix: How Reed Hastings is building the first global TV network [ http://ur1.ca/opoau ] | Mar 30 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | Worrisome if anything... | Mar 30 12:11 |
| cubexyz | Mar 30 12:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Mar 30 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux succeeded where others failed | Tux Machines | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Document Freedom Day, World Standards Day 2016 | Mar 30 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Document Freedom Day, World Standards Day 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 30 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora 24 Alpha | Techrights | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 24 Alpha Screenshot Tour https://t.co/M9E6fLtJZ5' | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation Ships with GNOME 3.20 and Linux Kernel 4.5 - Screenshot Tour | Mar 30 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 3D 11.2.0 Gets One More RC Build,...' | Mar 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora: The Latest https://t.co/8x9lOA01s6 | Mar 30 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: The Latest | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat News https://t.co/SMNCxoy4gP | Mar 30 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zkIBTgVKq9 | Mar 30 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Mar 30 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/EHBJRrGg2h | Mar 30 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 30 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 13:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 13:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Mar 30 13:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zaurav/status/715164925702893568 | Mar 30 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zaurav: The Imperialists of the digital age. https://t.co/VfkNMCUnE0 | Mar 30 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/bTfL9jFew8 #microsoft #gnu #linux | Mar 30 14:22 | |
| Robert__ | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2452793/sco-vs-ibm-13-year-old-linux-dispute-returns-as-sco-files-new-appeal | Mar 30 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | SCO vs IBM: 13-year-old Linux dispute returns as SCO files new appeal- The Inquirer | Mar 30 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | hi | Mar 30 14:27 |
| schestowitz | oh, now this again... | Mar 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz | see, that's what I said last time they said it was finished... | Mar 30 14:28 |
| cubexyz | SCO is just pissing in the wind | Mar 30 14:28 |
| cubexyz | dismissed with prejudice even | Mar 30 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 24 Alpha https://t.co/aMCYblIX76 | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @The_Code_Shirts (techrights.org) | Mar 30 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/3/2016: Torvalds in Spectrum, Fedora 24 Alpha | Techrights | Mar 30 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/Ogof2Fbth4 | Mar 30 14:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 30 14:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? | Techrights | Mar 30 14:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/twitserra/status/715174424983564288 | Mar 30 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@twitserra: good text: https://t.co/50dksNV18t | Mar 30 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tonatiuhmira/status/715174761802764288 | Mar 30 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 30 15:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonatiuhmira: #Microsoft Has Just #Blackmailed #Linux Twice in One Single Week https://t.co/RxJHtlzhuC | Mar 30 15:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/715166356891688960 | Mar 30 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BernieSanders: Too many Americans have seen their lives destroyed because they have criminal records as a result of marijuana use. | Mar 30 16:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Twpalovi/status/715192657174249472 | Mar 30 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Twpalovi: @schestowitz No way, they have had minutes of training in what to look for and what to do it they find it. | Mar 30 16:03 | |
| schestowitz | USB keys? | Mar 30 16:03 |
| schestowitz | USB keys? The latest attempt to catch/silence whistleblowers at #epo perhaps? | Mar 30 16:04 |
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| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-privacy-idUSKCN0WV111 | Mar 30 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Global majority backs a ban on 'dark net,' poll says | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/opqa7 ] | Mar 30 16:11 | |
| __martin__ | pre-sequel to | Mar 30 16:11 |
| __martin__ | https://www.rightscon.org/program/ | Mar 30 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rightscon.org | Program - RightsCon Summit Series | Mar 30 16:12 | |
| __martin__ | (= | Mar 30 16:12 |
| schestowitz | hi | Mar 30 16:15 |
| __martin__ | geekings | Mar 30 16:15 |
| schestowitz | yes, heard of it | Mar 30 16:15 |
| __martin__ | schestowitz: atm following up the guardian's live blog on steel crisis in uk, funny how that secretary cancelled australia trip | Mar 30 16:16 |
| __martin__ | from ur diaspora wall I noticed earlier u like some actions of this mr. corbyn | Mar 30 16:16 |
| __martin__ | he's opposition as I understand | Mar 30 16:17 |
| __martin__ | in slovakia I got steelmills some 70km from my residential place, owned by U.S. connections, they had cuts earlier on and four day work week | Mar 30 16:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2016/03/01/sco-over-and-out/ | Mar 30 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If This is (Really) the End of SCO, Don’t Forget Who Funded and Supported SCO’s 13-Year-Long Attacks on Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/opqdg ] | Mar 30 16:19 | |
| amarsh04 | the steel mill about 400 km from here has been under financial pressure also | Mar 30 16:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Danover/status/715196917966196736 | Mar 30 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Danover: @BernieSanders @schestowitz And we'll do it by importing more unemployed. | Mar 30 16:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even | Mar 30 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Define Hate Anymore? https://t.co/Ogof2Fbth4 | Mar 30 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Mar 30 16:25 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define...' | Mar 30 16:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With ‘Love’ Like Microsoft’s, Who Can Even Define Hate Anymore? | Techrights | Mar 30 16:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KsWM9E2QUA (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 30 16:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 16:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines World's first Ubuntu tablet goes up for | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pre-order at £200 https://t.co/FQzoEdXJ0f | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theinquirer.net) https://t.co/dMgPVhOBW3 | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.christianpost.com) | Mar 30 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opqll | Mar 30 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | World's first Ubuntu tablet goes up for pre-order at £200- The Inquirer | Mar 30 16:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christianpost.com | BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Now Available for Pre-Order, Starting Price at $291.99 | Mar 30 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/theGuruWithin/status/715200901447716864 | Mar 30 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@theGuruWithin: .@schestowitz #Bouya! EXCELLENT no content is worth bullshit of ads by force | Mar 30 16:37 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/715150625626013697 | Mar 30 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Is there a EU Patent? Esiste un brevetto EU? https://t.co/ezuptHMwrf | Mar 30 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Gibt es ein EU-Patent? https://t.co/9PgEUGmtJq | Mar 30 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | maybe they're shuffling/renaming UPC again... | Mar 30 16:41 |
| schestowitz | I can arrange that with the GIMP ;-) | Mar 30 17:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194226 | Mar 30 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft to #gnu #linux developers: like #ubuntu more than Windows? Try #vista10 for free, stick around later. We'll watch you. | Mar 30 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Why does Microsoft give away their OS for free while we had to pay for it for years? | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | They see it’s more important to have people using their product (for collecting data you need users) than that they actually buy the OS. Google and Apple saw that years ago. | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194310 | Mar 30 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft EEE with #mono inside #debian and #ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/images/1/10/Mono-the-trojan.png so who was right about Mono after all? ;-) Now #microsoft ware | Mar 30 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh no! More free software is available! | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | (Mono has been in Debian and Ubuntu for years) | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | A Microsoft employee put Mono in #debian and #ubuntu | Mar 30 17:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mcit.gov.cy/mcit/mcit.nsf/dmlcv_en/dmlcv_en?OpenDocument | Mar 30 17:08 |
| schestowitz | "In 2003 he was the first employee hired by Microsoft in Cyprus, entrusted with developing the company’s operations in the country. After five years of rapid growth, his duties expanded to the position of Managing Director for Microsoft Cyprus and Malta, while in November 2011 he was appointed Public Sector Director at Microsoft Central & Eastern Europe, with the mandate of developing the company’s operations in 24 countries. " | Mar 30 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcit.gov.cy | Ministry of Energy, Commerce, Industry and Tourism - Curriculum Vitae [ http://ur1.ca/opr6h ] | Mar 30 17:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7194495 | Mar 30 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Romanians Sent to Prison After Corruption Over Microsoft Licences in Schools https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 #microsoft #corruption #gnu #linux | Mar 30 17:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'soylentnews.org' ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/03/29/0242230 ) | Mar 30 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | "In Cyprus they are pushing Office365 “for free” in schools. But that’s OK. Microsoft have their own Minister in the President’s cabinet." | Mar 30 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | "It’s quite the same in Croatia: “budget” or no cost licences for students and academia, heavy influence on what gets taught and how at universities and - surprise, surprise - a heavy, many-digit government contract for licences for Win and Office for government machines. Extramadura, München…so close, but so far away…" | Mar 30 17:10 |
| lirodon | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/ eew seriously | Mar 30 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/opr7r ] | Mar 30 17:11 | |
| schestowitz | yeah... | Mar 30 17:11 |
| schestowitz | see bug #1 | Mar 30 17:11 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu's | Mar 30 17:11 |
| lirodon | But what even is the point? You can already run GTK programs on Windows | Mar 30 17:12 |
| lirodon | and QT and so on | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | so it's nothing worth noting | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | publicity stunt mostly | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | and also, there are already tools for this | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | re openssh | Mar 30 17:12 |
| schestowitz | there was already putty | Mar 30 17:12 |
| lirodon | although people were saying that they're trying to do bash on Windows | Mar 30 17:12 |
| MinceR | they want the windows clone and windows together in one package | Mar 30 17:13 |
| MinceR | in this case, the windows clone that wants to look like macos | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | they want to turn Linux into a "Windows app" | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | for it to stay there | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | and nobody will need to install this "Commie software" | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | just buy Vista 10 | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | or get a machine with it | Mar 30 17:14 |
| schestowitz | and MS will tell regulators, look, we love Linux... | Mar 30 17:14 |
| MinceR | maybe m$ can move the rest of windows into cancerd | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | heh | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's a Windows project | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | we just don't know it yet ;-p | Mar 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | hey, april 1st is coming | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | wannt write some funny thing about it | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | (even short)? | Mar 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/715210580089565184 | Mar 30 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: Roy doesn't realise that patent lawyers don't file patents in Europe 😂 https://t.co/phkdb3C1Ii | Mar 30 17:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A lot patent lawyers just want it the easy way; they want to bombard the system with patents (not applications) and not ever face rejection. | Mar 30 17:18 | |
| lirodon | so yes, it's Bash that's the collaboration | Mar 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | I wonder what gnu devs think of it... | Mar 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | bashdows | Mar 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, ubuntu uses dash | Mar 30 17:19 |
| lirodon | ""Windows is the home for multi-platform developers."" [citation needed] | Mar 30 17:19 |
| MinceR | i have no idea for april fool jokes | Mar 30 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | Multi-platform development: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 Update 1, Windows 10. | Mar 30 17:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 17:23 |
| MinceR | supports any platform you want, as long as that platform is winders | Mar 30 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | Supports any platform you want. If it's not Windows, you don't want it. | Mar 30 17:23 |
| schestowitz | lirodon: who wrote that? | Mar 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | MS, Mary Jo Foley, SJVN? | Mar 30 17:24 |
| lirodon | The Verge liveblog of things being said at the keynote | Mar 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | because that's a lie | Mar 30 17:24 |
| lirodon | a MS guy basically | Mar 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | that's like Apple's lie about Open Source credit | Mar 30 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | Are there any details on what bash Microsoft is going to include? | Mar 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | what, PowerHell isn't good enough anymore? | Mar 30 17:27 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: woah woah | Mar 30 17:27 |
| XFaCE | you are saying http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 | Mar 30 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/oprhb ] | Mar 30 17:28 | |
| XFaCE | Isn't april fools? | Mar 30 17:28 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 30 17:28 |
| MinceR | does winblows also fail at keeping the calendar working and the m$ munchkins at zdnet believe it was already the 1st? | Mar 30 17:29 |
| XFaCE | "With this new addition, Ubuntu users will be able to run Ubuntu simultaneously with Windows. This will not be in a virtual machine, but as an integrated part of Windows 10. " | Mar 30 17:30 |
| XFaCE | For fuck's sake, this has been done BEFORE!! | Mar 30 17:30 |
| XFaCE | andLinux/coLinux | Mar 30 17:30 |
| XFaCE | nothing fucking new | Mar 30 17:30 |
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| MinceR | if it wasn't done before, why would m$ be interested in doing it? | Mar 30 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | I'm wondering because GPLv3 | Mar 30 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | No way Microsoft is gonna put something on GPLv3 into Windows | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | so… what they'll put then? | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XFaCE | Embrace Extend Extinguish | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XFaCE | over and over | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XFaCE | FFS | Mar 30 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | bash 3.x that is on GPLv2+ like Apple does? | Mar 30 17:32 |
| lirodon | Canonical CLAs | Mar 30 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/715214695012106241 https://twitter.com/nileshgr/status/715214756353683457 | Mar 30 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @dinabass @vitali_giuseppe https://t.co/wqUBN9P6Vc | Mar 30 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Has Just Blackmailed Linux Twice in One Single Week and the Media Didn’t Notice or Just Ignored It Because of Microsoft’s Charm Offensives | Techrights | Mar 30 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nileshgr: @jainrounak https://t.co/BRg0pP7FvG | Mar 30 17:34 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Great, now that Microsoft is allowing ubuntu to run on Windows, I'm awaiting the reciprocation of Windows being ported to Ubuntu | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | ... | Mar 30 17:34 |
| MinceR | that has already begun | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | ... | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | that's what I thought | Mar 30 17:34 |
| MinceR | systemd, kdbus, networkmanager, gnome | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | :P | Mar 30 17:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: not exactly what I meant :P | Mar 30 17:34 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: I bet Microsoft will be do a few contribs to Wine in good faith | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | hahahaahaahahahahaa | Mar 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | "22 minutes ago | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | Biggest applause line of the day: BASH shell coming to Windows. #Build2016 | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | " | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | It's 2016 guys!! | Mar 30 17:35 |
| XFaCE | ugh | Mar 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | >$(date +%Y) | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | [17:35] <XFaCE> MinceR: I bet Microsoft will be do a few contribs to Wine in good faith | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | They own mono now | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | and there's a connection to wine | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | IIRC | Mar 30 17:36 |
| MinceR | and they believe they own "linux" | Mar 30 17:36 |
| schestowitz | they did it 10 years ago | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | the Novell deakl | Mar 30 17:37 |
| MinceR | i ran bash on winblows ages ago, via cygwin | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | in Easter 2007 Novell dumped the docs (just before the long weekend) | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Wine was mentioned | Mar 30 17:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jaazannos/status/715216424357076992 | Mar 30 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jaazannos: @schestowitz yes it is true. Canonical and Microsoft partner to supply choice to developers. | Mar 30 17:38 | |
| schestowitz | ha | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 17:38 |
| schestowitz | choice.... controlled from the Windows side | Mar 30 17:38 |
| schestowitz | not the other way | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | hobson's choice, that is | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | you get a telescreen running our backdoors, or you get no access to computers or the web | Mar 30 17:38 |
| XFaCE | isn't funny, how all this "FOSS" co-operation by Microsoft, always leads back to benefitting their proprietary platforms | Mar 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | is current bash GPLv3 or GPLv3+? | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | they use dash | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | (in Ubuntu) | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | if the latter, watch out for m$ donations to FSF | Mar 30 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: GPLv3+ | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | great | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | oh, dear, MS money on FSF table | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | look out for the GPLv4, the new, m$-friendly GPL | Mar 30 17:39 |
| schestowitz | jgay: don't take it ;-) | Mar 30 17:39 |
| MinceR | good thing i never assigned copyrights to FSF | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: dash is used as /bin/sh but not the default shell. | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft will just make their own proprietary bash | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | or used the "or newer" clause | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | BASH.COM | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | sorry | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | bash.exe? | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | Bash.NET | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | nah, they can't make it fit in 64k | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: dash is not really a usable shell. | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | bash.MSI | Mar 30 17:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: command.com reference | Mar 30 17:40 |
| lirodon | "For over 30 years Windows has welcomed an open ecosystem of hardware and software partners. Nothing changes with the Universal Windows platform." | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | double click, follow the wizard | Mar 30 17:40 |
| MinceR | bash.exe, requiring .net | Mar 30 17:40 |
| schestowitz | they'll need to rename it | Mar 30 17:41 |
| lirodon | "yeah right. It's not an open ecosystem if you have to go through their walled garden first | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | [12:40:46]<lirodon> "For over 30 years Windows has welcomed an open ecosystem of hardware and software partners. Nothing changes with the Universal Windows platform." | Mar 30 17:41 |
| lirodon | it's automatically a closed ecosystem | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | read between the lines as always | Mar 30 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise Operator Deluxe 2016 | Mar 30 17:41 |
| MinceR | hell, even a non-m$ bash won't fit in 64k | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | When Microsoft talks about "portability" and "univeral platforms" | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | they don't mean ease of porting to other operating systems or other languages/libraries | Mar 30 17:41 |
| XFaCE | they mean ease of porting proprietary Windows to more hardware | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XFaCE | Java is designed to be OS and hardware-agnostic | Mar 30 17:42 |
| MinceR | they mean difficulty of avoiding running or paying for winders | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XFaCE | .NET is only the latter | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XRevan86 | XFaCE: Ease of porting from other operating systems or other languages/libraries | Mar 30 17:42 |
| cubexyz | uhhh, no for 30 years windows has not welcomed an "open ecosystem" | Mar 30 17:42 |
| XFaCE | XRevan86: exactly | Mar 30 17:42 |
| cubexyz | exactly the opposite | Mar 30 17:42 |
| lirodon | http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx some details on that bash thing | Mar 30 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hanselman.com | Developers can run Bash Shell and user-mode Ubuntu Linux binaries on Windows 10 - Scott Hanselman [ http://ur1.ca/oprp7 ] | Mar 30 17:43 | |
| XFaCE | Microsoft's platforms are basically parasites | Mar 30 17:43 |
| MinceR | a good fit for m$, who are also parasites | Mar 30 17:43 |
| lirodon | It was open _per se_ because MS didn't regulate how certain styles of programs are packaged/distributed. | Mar 30 17:43 |
| XFaCE | Absorb other projects, and spread | Mar 30 17:43 |
| lirodon | but now they've succumb to the locked down mobile platform fixation which is a problem all its own | Mar 30 17:45 |
| cubexyz | 30 years ago was kind of a mess actually | Mar 30 17:45 |
| cubexyz | Xenix, Desqview dos-extenders, SunOS, etc | Mar 30 17:45 |
| cubexyz | I guess I should also include Amiga in that time period | Mar 30 17:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: The media that are saying, this helps "developers" | Mar 30 17:47 |
| XFaCE | no, this helps WINDOWS developers | Mar 30 17:47 |
| MinceR | no, this helps m$ | Mar 30 17:47 |
| XFaCE | well both | Mar 30 17:47 |
| XFaCE | it helps Windows devs give more flamewar bait as to why they aren't switching to Linux | Mar 30 17:48 |
| XFaCE | Point is, this doesn't help Linux/BSD devs whatsoever | Mar 30 17:48 |
| cubexyz | 30 years ago you still saw some PDP-11, PDP-10 stuff | Mar 30 17:48 |
| XFaCE | yet the new is phrased in a way that suggests it will | Mar 30 17:48 |
| schestowitz | yes, a little more like, look... Vista 10... it has EVERYTHING | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Boss, can I install Linux? | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Boss: sure, install Vista 10 | Mar 30 17:53 |
| schestowitz | But... | Mar 30 17:53 |
| cubexyz | usually tools that do everything don't any one thing particularly well | Mar 30 17:55 |
| cubexyz | s/don't/don't do/ | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | well, if it has cancerd, it has everything | Mar 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | all of it broken, though | Mar 30 17:57 |
| cubexyz | most people I know are avoiding windows 10 | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | yeah, rightly so | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | they hear bad things | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | the harder Microsoft pushes, the more backlash | Mar 30 17:57 |
| schestowitz | they damage their credibility (what's left of it among some people) | Mar 30 17:58 |
| cubexyz | as I said earlier, for people still on dialup it's hellish :) | Mar 30 17:58 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so I guess they are trying to distract with this shit | Mar 30 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Ignore #microsoft as it throws around misleading and meaningless numbers. The company has done this for decades. Always lying. Because "marketing". | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | is it even possible to damage m$'s credibility with the people they have it with? | Mar 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | it's a cult at this point | Mar 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | just like crApple | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | young people | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | they grew up with another kind of media | Mar 30 17:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Remember how MS made a big deal about their contribs to Linux, when in fact the only reason they were so large was because the commits were garbage and had to be fixed over and over? | Mar 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | they do all sorts of horribly evil things and it just makes the cultists love them even more | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | so to them the real antitrust stuff is just history that predated them | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yes, and for PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE AND.... | Mar 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | even so, the hype-v code in linux sucks | Mar 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | GPL VIOLATIONS!!! | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hyper-V | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They got caught, then pretended they means to open it all along | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | and funnily enough, the particular bit i remember happens to be incompatible with cancer-d | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | to change history a little | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | s/r-d/rd/ | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Hey, maybe hypervisor is next on LP's agenda | Mar 30 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They shall calll it --- TADA --- hyperd | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | cancerd already contains some sort of hypervisor tool | Mar 30 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Red hat is a cancerd that attaches itself... | Mar 30 18:01 |
| XFaCE | what a great deal | Mar 30 18:02 |
| XFaCE | we get the stupid Windows mentalities and flawed practices, they get the actual technology | Mar 30 18:03 |
| cubexyz | when I talk to younger folks I can definitely feel the generation gap | Mar 30 18:03 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: I'VE GOT NOTHING TO HIDE STOP WORRYING | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: you can hear it now | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | "app" this, "app" that | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | even some adults start talking like fools | Mar 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | those who "discovered" computing because of their "smart" [sic] phone | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | that would be because most "adults" are fools | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | not all of them | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | I also know kids who are bright | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | it's not an age phenomenon | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | the human species is a horrible mess at this point | Mar 30 18:04 |
| MinceR | the greatest threat to its own survival | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | well, see how many vote Trump | Mar 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | and half of D's also still vote Clinton | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | which tells you quite a lot | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | either the media hides the alternatives well or the alternatives' messaging isn't effective enough | Mar 30 18:05 |
| cubexyz | do younger people still build their own PCs? I have my doubts | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | we had Tories RE-elected here | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | AFTER all the mess they had done | Mar 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: they don't have PCs | Mar 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | they buy consoles | Mar 30 18:06 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: that said, the FPTP voting sucks | Mar 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | with DRM and "cloud" to download from | Mar 30 18:06 |
| XFaCE | and UK still has it | Mar 30 18:06 |
| cubexyz | I'm worried people don't learn the basics: electronics, binary, hexadecimal, boolean logic, etc | Mar 30 18:08 |
| schestowitz | they learn 'apps' | Mar 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | and 'smart' things | Mar 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | and they save their 'docs' (OOXML) on the 'cloud' | Mar 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | and they let the DevOps worry about it | Mar 30 18:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: And they learn "don't worry, just use Windows' SSH client" | Mar 30 18:11 |
| XFaCE | "Windows has everything you need" | Mar 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | should be called SH | Mar 30 18:12 |
| XFaCE | SHit | Mar 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | There's no secure when you have back doors in the OS | Mar 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | NSA just pulls up your private keys | Mar 30 18:12 |
| XFaCE | and keyloggers records the passphrases | Mar 30 18:13 |
| cubexyz | ok, if you're doing to be paranoid you need to talk about BIOS too :) | Mar 30 18:14 |
| cubexyz | s/doing/going/ | Mar 30 18:14 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: what we are seeing is basically the ultimate evolution of Ballmer's ideal of having all FOSS development on top of Windows | Mar 30 18:15 |
| XFaCE | Windows will be the proprietary blackbox that runs all you need | Mar 30 18:15 |
| XFaCE | "need" | Mar 30 18:15 |
| cubexyz | I should point out that's merely one blackbox | Mar 30 18:15 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: well other blackboxes on top :) | Mar 30 18:15 |
| cubexyz | does your ISP let you run servers? :) | Mar 30 18:16 |
| cubexyz | does your TV provider encrypt everything? | Mar 30 18:17 |
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| XFaCE | :P | Mar 30 18:18 |
| XFaCE | my point is, this is just a continuation of the "Windows is the platform for everything else or else" mentality | Mar 30 18:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse...' | Mar 30 18:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, | Mar 30 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Mar 30 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FF1hL48ZlI (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oprxo | Mar 30 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse JEE, IntelliJ EAP & Kotlin | Tux Machines | Mar 30 18:19 | |
| cubexyz | right, but a swiss army knife with two dozen implements is unwieldy | Mar 30 18:25 |
| MinceR | actually my swiss army knife works better than anything m$ or canonical has ever came up with | Mar 30 18:25 |
| cubexyz | anyway bash is GPL right? so if M$ uses it they have to make the sources available | Mar 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | someone said it had an "or later" clause | Mar 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | so all they need to do is bribe the FSF to make GPLv4 | Mar 30 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If you can't trust Stallman, whom you can? | Mar 30 18:27 |
| MinceR | myself | Mar 30 18:27 |
| cubexyz | people don't really want win10: | Mar 30 18:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txt | Mar 30 18:28 |
| cubexyz | you lose too much control over your computer | Mar 30 18:29 |
| XFaCE | well as you said cubexyz , it's all about APPS with these users these days | Mar 30 18:30 |
| cubexyz | I didn't say that but ok :) | Mar 30 18:30 |
| XFaCE | actually managaing updates? that's lame | Mar 30 18:30 |
| XFaCE | paraphrasing then :P | Mar 30 18:30 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: was it you or schestowitz ? | Mar 30 18:31 |
| XFaCE | about youth and apps | Mar 30 18:31 |
| cubexyz | probably schestowitz | Mar 30 18:31 |
| *XFaCE doesn't bother scrolling up | Mar 30 18:31 | |
| XFaCE | fuck that! | Mar 30 18:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txt | Mar 30 18:31 |
| cubexyz | I got a million stories about win10 | Mar 30 18:31 |
| XFaCE | "bu-bu-bu Linux crashes too!!" | Mar 30 18:32 |
| cubexyz | I just said there was a bit of a generation gap (when I talk to younger computer folks) | Mar 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | "...thanks to our buddies at red hat" | Mar 30 18:32 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-yet-another-bug.txt | Mar 30 18:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, last one...... for now :) | Mar 30 18:36 |
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| *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ppp14-2-108-254.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrights | Mar 30 18:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines openSUSE Build Service and GNOME 3.20 | Mar 30 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XWNV5PlYPy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ops4r | Mar 30 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Build Service and GNOME 3.20 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 18:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Mar 30 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo (techrights.org) | Mar 30 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/ops4s | Mar 30 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Techrights | Mar 30 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715231292045004801 https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715232194432790533 https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715233188994555904 | Mar 30 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID. | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @extra3 @schestowitz Here's the Erdogan extra3 clip with English subtitles (click onto the icon below to activate the subtitles). | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz Original by Nena https://t.co/QB5eRJENbt | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Nena - Irgendwie Irgendwo Irgendwann (Original 1984) - YouTube | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | " Roy, here the English subtitled version. I am really looking forward to the Battistelli version of the clip." | Mar 30 18:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/715234724051042304 | Mar 30 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Wikinaut: @schestowitz and a video ??? | Mar 30 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Puri_sm/status/715236995501416450 | Mar 30 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Puri_sm: Frightening? https://t.co/iqU8ZvrW2a | Mar 30 19:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 19:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 19:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TechJournalist favourited 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 19:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/hanevel/status/715245516884459520 | Mar 30 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hanevel: @schestowitz Why on Earth would anyone having any knowledge of decent OS-es even consider that possibility? | Mar 30 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Mar 30 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo (techrights.org) | Mar 30 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @fth_nix | Mar 30 19:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza | Mar 30 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 19:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 19:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Android smartphone and barcode reader | Mar 30 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comes in a 10-oz. package | Mar 30 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rIV6g39tXw (www.computerworld.com) | Mar 30 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsgc | Mar 30 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | This Android smartphone and barcode reader comes in a 10-oz. package | Computerworld | Mar 30 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Digikam updated in area51 | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nmvui9D78U (euroquis.nl) | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsgl | Mar 30 19:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Make Now Lets You Install Superpowers, Eclipse...' | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1mzuFhYdY4 (dot.kde.org) | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsgp | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB (m.phys.org) "the best | Mar 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | known example is the Linux operating system." | Mar 30 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | Digikam updated in area51 | Bobulate | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsgq | Mar 30 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | KDE.news | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/T_Miller_Harper/status/715251107837190149 | Mar 30 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@T_Miller_Harper: @schestowitz The UK hypocrites? How dare you Sir, step outside, we shall settle this with a game of marbles! | Mar 30 19:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lordbaco retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 19:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux | Mar 30 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev https://t.co/nPgCNdaS5D | Mar 30 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux | Techrights | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 30 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsh6 | Mar 30 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev - Phoronix | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/vvD7GW4Aza' | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/715215714181902336 | Mar 30 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Even if you don't agree with @evgenymorozov, you should read him. Rare, original thinking. https://t.co/kT3RTjgLhY https://t.co/3WJ0wMl65r | Mar 30 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The state has lost control: tech firms now run western politics | Opinion | The Guardian | Mar 30 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Snowden: Even if you don't agree with @evgenymorozov, you should read him. Rare, original thinking. https://t.co/kT3RTjgLhY https://t.co/3WJ0wMl65r | Mar 30 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @vincentzimmer favourited 'Microsoft-Backed SCO is Still Attacking Linux https://t.co/Zm6aplhkyo' | Mar 30 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix followed @tuxmachines | Mar 30 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'Open-source microprocessor https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB "the best known example is...' | Mar 30 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7196018 | Mar 30 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | "“I would love to see everyone pay for our product, and allow us to monetize their details by selling their very keystrokes to the government of our choice.”" | Mar 30 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "i woke up to this news and i was like OK this is going to be one of those bad day." | Mar 30 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "All these open source innovation has made Windows unnecessary and outdated…just like Ballmer is. :)" | Mar 30 20:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7195629 | Mar 30 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You know a project is screwed when getting something from its very owner (steering/control) is called "donation" http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/applied-micro-provides-arm-boost-to-opensuse-build-service-for-linux.html | Mar 30 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Dude, ur post are getting better and better." | Mar 30 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.serverwatch.com | Applied Micro Provides ARM Boost to openSUSE Build Service for Linux [ http://ur1.ca/opslb ] | Mar 30 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7195394 | Mar 30 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Congressman Wants To Make Attacking A Cop A Federal 'Hate' Crime https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160328/08115734031/congressman-wants-to-make-attacking-cop-federal-hate-crime.shtml martial law 3.0. | Mar 30 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | "Honestly, I don’t know what is going to happen to this country." | Mar 30 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Congressman Wants To Make Attacking A Cop A Federal 'Hate' Crime | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/opslm ] | Mar 30 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | See Mexico... | Mar 30 20:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7189238 | Mar 30 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese" Donald Rump http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/28/3762742/trump-rhetoric-2/ acting like a Clown | Mar 30 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thinkprogress.org | Donald Trump May Sound Like A Clown, But He Is A Rhetoric Pro Like Cicero | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/opnlk ] | Mar 30 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | I wonder what do people mean with Anarchism but I’m too lazy to read. | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | I’m visiting my house in Redneck Town and anarchy is what it comes to my mind. Here people could virtually do whatever they want. Do you feel like closing a street? Roaming the town blasting the most tasteless music you could find? What about blasting music from your house? Maybe having two or three dogs in a 12 square meters backyard barking day and night? Yes, you can bet you could do it. | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | What about taking public property as if it were yours? Putting fire to your plot of land? Not paying utilities or taxes? Having a blacksmith shop in a residential area? Firing off crackers whenever you like? Howling and screaming any time you feel? Yes, sure you can! | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | I really dislike a corrupt government, but having to choose between that and no government I prefer a lot more the government. I’m yet to see people behaving properly and respectfully, not to mention actually helping the others, without a strong punishing authority. | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Some of these issues are due to overpopulation | Mar 30 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by https://t.co/qczwvMUlaB (m.phys.org) "the best | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @fth_nix known example is the Linux operating system." | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsmf | Mar 30 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 20:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Get the Tiny VoCore Mini Linux Computer for | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Just $39 https://t.co/6f5hqIwiLk | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.escapistmagazine.com) | Mar 30 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.escapistmagazine.com | Grab the Tiny VoCore Mini Linux Computer for Just $39 | The Escapist | Mar 30 20:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsmg | Mar 30 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Click: I hate myself for wanting this | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tiny Android-powered projector from Indiegogo | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dZFhghWM4y (www.theverge.com) | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | First Click: I hate myself for wanting this tiny Android-powered projector from Indiegogo | The Verge | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsnv | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QNbzQSd6tF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsnw | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Proudly Presents Kirigami UI! | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-source microprocessor | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Jjc8xchAlg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opso0 | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source microprocessor | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/RnKiXmn522 | Mar 30 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opso1 | Mar 30 20:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/715258616769548288 | Mar 30 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @KrapulaPhD @patentbuddy @Twpalovi @DavidBrooke_IP https://t.co/pYYqqe4xfD | Mar 30 20:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Journalists should ask #epo (probably its PR 'firewall') two questions:1) why is President's contract secret?2) why are IT contracts secret? | Mar 30 20:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev https://t.co/8L3ZDil0Vt | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsop | Mar 30 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau Kepler vs. Maxwell Performance On Linux 4.6 + Mesa 11.3-dev | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Embrace and Extend? Microsoft Adopts GNU’s Bash | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hwryjgZiGU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opsor | Mar 30 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embrace and Extend? Microsoft Adopts GNU’s Bash | Tux Machines | Mar 30 20:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/RnKiXmn522 | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz | Mar 30 21:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ySp0ORj2lR (www.tizenexperts.com) | Mar 30 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 - Tizen Experts | Mar 30 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC’s new | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship Android smartphone | Mar 30 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/17LbPnzBdE (www.technobuffalo.com) | Mar 30 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC's new flagship Android smartphone | Mar 30 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 https://t.co/VzJ3yTGZfX (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opt1u | Mar 30 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and i.MX6 | Mar 30 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 | Mar 30 21:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zcx27T0vf9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exclusive: Samsung to Launch Z2 Tizen Smartphone (SM-Z200F) in 2016 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC’s new | Mar 30 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship Android smartphone | Mar 30 21:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kKdpHRzFBy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HTC 10 benchmark tells all on HTC’s new flagship Android smartphone | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and | Mar 30 21:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | i.MX6 https://t.co/NqcIiAp4UT | Mar 30 21:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 30 21:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged, Linux-ready RTX COMs tap Sitara and i.MX6 | Tux Machines | Mar 30 21:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Mar 30 21:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FMySQIKA1x (www.bodhilinux.com) | Mar 30 21:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bodhilinux.com | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Release | Bodhi Linux | Mar 30 22:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've | Mar 30 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ever seen, coming to Linux on April 1st | Mar 30 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hTSxmpNuAs (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 30 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/opt68 | Mar 30 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | CHKN is probably the weirdest sandbox game I've ever seen, coming to Linux on April 1st | GamingOnLinux | Mar 30 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Alejandro32/status/715285270766051328 | Mar 30 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Alejandro32: How can you have Open Source systems on top of a proprietary & privacy adverse system such as Windows? https://t.co/FqcPV9YLCU" | Mar 30 22:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "I would love to see all open source innovation happen on top of Windows." -Steve Ballmer. Even #ubuntu and #bash ... E.E.E. #microsoft | Mar 30 22:13 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not exactly sure if Ubuntu on Windows long term will do Windows a lot of good. | Mar 30 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Please remember its lot like IBM failed idea of OS/warp running win16 binaries. | Mar 30 22:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: developers don't want to maintain any extra binaries if they don't have to. If Windows runs Linux and Linux runs Linux exactly why maintain windows binary. | Mar 30 22:19 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: so the question is who is EEE who. | Mar 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what uefi and intel boot guard are for | Mar 30 22:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes those would be in higher EEE risk. | Mar 30 22:23 |
| oiaohm | But remember OS with most of the common applications is the one OEM/ODM are most likely to install. | Mar 30 22:24 |
| MinceR | and m$ has the OEM/ODMs' nuts in a vise | Mar 30 22:24 |
| oiaohm | This is why I see this Ubuntu on Windows as just as big of risk for Microsoft. | Mar 30 22:25 |
| oiaohm | If ubuntu on windows results in less programs being Windows native hello trouble. | Mar 30 22:25 |
| oiaohm | I also note that Microsoft so far is making it a Windows 10 thing thinking that line and other things prove that Windows 7 and earlier could be made do this stuff as well. | Mar 30 22:26 |
| oiaohm | So you could call this desperation to move Windows 10. | Mar 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | desperation to get the backdoors and spyware on as many PCs as possible | Mar 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | and now you can get another NSA backdoor via ubuntu | Mar 30 22:29 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: if it desperation means Microsoft will fail to handle the long term risks correctly. | Mar 30 22:32 |
| MinceR | it might be too late for the human species by then | Mar 30 22:33 |
| oiaohm | Depends who gets on board. | Mar 30 22:34 |
| oiaohm | Just think if valve uses the subsystem. So now Steam OS games run on Windows without having a Windows binary. | Mar 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | and will still be locked to winblows using winblows libraries | Mar 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | just the way m$ would have it | Mar 30 22:35 |
| oiaohm | Remember common arguement for games not being ported to Linux is wine exists. | Mar 30 22:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: elf binaries that Ubuntu on windows is running are totally not modified and still use the normal dependencies. | Mar 30 22:36 |
| MinceR | for now | Mar 30 22:36 |
| oiaohm | xming works on Windows. | Mar 30 22:36 |
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| MinceR | remember what m$ attempted to do to java | Mar 30 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android | Mar 30 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Mar 30 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Mar 30 22:37 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note the word attempted. | Mar 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, some of the laws applied to m$ back then | Mar 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | they no longer do | Mar 30 22:37 |
| oiaohm | Extending Java end up microsoft being forced to go and make .Net. | Mar 30 22:37 |
| oiaohm | In fact even before the legal case Microsoft java was not doing to well. | Mar 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was forced to offer winblows versions without ie and wmp? | Mar 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was forced to give users a choice of browser? | Mar 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | remember when m$ was fined for abusing their monopoly? | Mar 30 22:39 |
| cubexyz | yes :) | Mar 30 22:40 |
| oiaohm | I remember all that but microsoft EEE extending existing ABI/API has mostly not worked well for them. | Mar 30 22:40 |
| oiaohm | OS/2 attempted extentions in the OS/2 subsystem no application in production ever used. | Mar 30 22:40 |
| MinceR | now m$ doesn't even get a warning for their uefi abuse | Mar 30 22:41 |
| oiaohm | Same happened to most of the Java extension | Mar 30 22:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the means to delete the Platform Key and load your own come out of threat of legal action. | Mar 30 22:41 |
| MinceR | so they got off that lightly | Mar 30 22:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so your statement that Microsoft is not getting warnings is wrong. | Mar 30 22:42 |
| MinceR | and they keep closing the gates | Mar 30 22:42 |
| cubexyz | did the DOJ do nothing about UEFI? | Mar 30 22:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: DOJ did threaten Intel did change things. | Mar 30 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Intel and Microsoft did change things. | Mar 30 22:43 |
| cubexyz | such as? | Mar 30 22:43 |
| cubexyz | seems like racketerring when you think about it | Mar 30 22:44 |
| oiaohm | first UEFI did not include disable secure boot option. DOJ yelled about that so disable secure boot was added. The DOJ yelled about user not being able to set own signing keys so now we have delete platform key option. | Mar 30 22:44 |
| oiaohm | So its not that DOJ has done nothing. | Mar 30 22:45 |
| oiaohm | Just the end result has not been userfriendly. | Mar 30 22:45 |
| cubexyz | ah, so it could have been even worse then | Mar 30 22:46 |
| MinceR | and it will be, too | Mar 30 22:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: DOJ intervention has limited how bad it can get. | Mar 30 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Now we need DOJ to complain that it should be userfriendly process. | Mar 30 22:47 |
| cubexyz | can we complain to the DOJ? | Mar 30 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Not like it going to change much at moment. Intel and others in UEFI are still attempting to design how key can be added in a sane way. | Mar 30 22:49 |
| MinceR | now they're concerned about sanity? | Mar 30 22:51 |
| MinceR | after coming up with the monstrosity known as UEFI? | Mar 30 22:51 |
| MinceR | and locking it into the hardware with "intel boot guard"? | Mar 30 22:51 |
| cubexyz | at least there is chromebooks/boxes | Mar 30 22:51 |
| oiaohm | old BIOS before UEFI was also insane mess of lets add hardware support drivers on end of bios image. | Mar 30 22:52 |
| oiaohm | So this meant take a standard bios image put a patch on the end have in bios rootkit. | Mar 30 22:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes intel boot guard is attempt to block a particular class of infection but I believe they have screwed it up. | Mar 30 22:53 |
| oiaohm | Failure to presume attacker someone manages to steal signing keys. | Mar 30 22:54 |
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| MinceR | apparently coreboot and libreboot are "infections" | Mar 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | competition is "infection" | Mar 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | this is how antitrust law "works" in the 3rd millennium | Mar 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | this is what usians call a "free market" | Mar 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | stalin would be proud. | Mar 30 22:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: NSA and China and Russia have been doing patches to existing bios images. | Mar 30 22:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not coreboot stuff. | Mar 30 22:57 |
| cubexyz | you can build coreboot images yourself | Mar 30 22:57 |
| cubexyz | no binaries needed | Mar 30 22:57 |
| MinceR | now they won't have to, as uefi appliances locked into winblows will just ship nsa's backdoors | Mar 30 22:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so intel boot guard was attempt to block but remember the stuff is made in countires where government can come and ask for keys. | Mar 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | and will even get mandatory updates to them | Mar 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: intel boot guard locks out coreboot and libreboot but doesn't lock out windows backdoors | Mar 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | thus calling it a security measure is dishonest | Mar 30 22:58 |
| cubexyz | yes, intel boot guard is BS | Mar 30 22:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: security measure always have side-effects. | Mar 30 22:58 |
| oiaohm | Incorrectly designed just cause side-effects with very limited advantages. | Mar 30 22:59 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard what prevents a government or someone pretending to be government to walk up to ODM/OEM and demarding they hand over key so they can bug the crap out of the devices. | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | yay for intel boot guard reserving this right for the usa | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | one of the most abusive governments on the global scale | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | except they also reserve it for intel and m$ | Mar 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | then again, there isn't much of a difference between intel/m$ and the puppet government they control | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Intel boot guard design with user settable key(even if total pain todo) good. Intel boot guard current design where key burns into fuses bad as hell. | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Even worse is the fact it fuses. | Mar 30 23:01 |
| cubexyz | time to boycott | Mar 30 23:01 |
| MinceR | intel boot guard with user settable key wouldn't do what intel and m$ want it to do | Mar 30 23:01 |
| MinceR | hence, burned-in key | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | So if a key in device is a few bits away from another key. | Mar 30 23:01 |
| oiaohm | Its possible to make intel boot guard burn out those fuses. | Mar 30 23:02 |
| oiaohm | So making it impossible to install the OEM/ODM firmware. | Mar 30 23:02 |
| oiaohm | Also it added a nice lets brick the laptop by setting key to 1 number | Mar 30 23:03 |
| oiaohm | Burnt in key starts with Arm processes and has historically caused a lot of bricking. | Mar 30 23:04 |
| oiaohm | Then intel goes and copies that. | Mar 30 23:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you could also call Intel Boot Guard keeping up with the Joneses without thinking. Since arm cpu have a option to include firmware fused check key x86 arch has to have one right even that most arm makers are stopping use it due to too much trouble. | Mar 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | arm-based mobile devices being locked down is bad enough | Mar 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | there's no need to fuck pcs up in their image | Mar 30 23:09 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: majority of arm chips in mobile devices are not using a locked down image. | Mar 30 23:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: in the form of fuses. | Mar 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its bootloader. | Mar 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you can swap the bootloader you can load what ever you like. | Mar 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Yes pain factor without knowing how to jtag the device the only way to swap the bootloader is use the bootloader on the arm device. | Mar 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Locked down as per the most common mobile devices don't see you doing intel boot guard. | Mar 30 23:14 |
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| razielle_tzu | Guest30739: you mean this one? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/microsoft-linux-and-why-its-no-longer-2005 | Mar 31 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | It's No Longer 2005 (So Don't Panic About Microsoft's Linux Lovefest) - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/opuka ] | Mar 31 02:31 | |
| Guest30739 | yeah | Mar 31 02:31 |
| razielle_tzu | the more i read about the bash thing the less i like it... and i was already torn over it | Mar 31 02:37 |
| MinceR | hopefully it will never matter to me | Mar 31 02:37 |
| Guest30739 | same here | Mar 31 02:37 |
| razielle_tzu | any work i do is on linux or bsd so it shouldn't effect me | Mar 31 02:38 |
| Guest30739 | bsd is amazing, I think it should be promoted more | Mar 31 02:39 |
| razielle_tzu | which one i use is purely down to which hdd is in my laptop and how lazy i'm feeling | Mar 31 02:40 |
| MinceR | redhat is promoting bsd, in a way :> | Mar 31 02:40 |
| razielle_tzu | i must have missed that | Mar 31 02:40 |
| Guest30739 | no one cares about red hat =) | Mar 31 02:42 |
| MinceR | well, they're destroying GNU/Linux | Mar 31 02:44 |
| Guest30739 | they are making a lot of money from Linus' baby and that's all | Mar 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | and this has already resulted in some folks fleeing to *BSD | Mar 31 02:44 |
| Guest30739 | yeah, that too | Mar 31 02:44 |
| Guest30739 | I think I'm gonna move to BSD permanently, very very soon *evil laugh* | Mar 31 02:45 |
| razielle_tzu | which bsd? | Mar 31 02:47 |
| oiaohm | OpenBSD and FreeBSD still have the lack of drivers issue. | Mar 31 02:48 |
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| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: really it way to soon to know where Ubuntu on windows is going to end up. If it results in projects stopping windows binaries the location in time could be worse for Microsoft. | Mar 31 02:50 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Mar 31 02:50 |
| oiaohm | Could be OS/2 and win16 all over again. | Mar 31 02:50 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't remember much of that tbh | Mar 31 02:51 |
| oiaohm | Ibm with odion make a win16 emulator for OS/2 This was a very good quality emulator the result was companies made win16 applications instead of OS/2 ones. | Mar 31 02:52 |
| oiaohm | and in fact stopped making OS/2 applications and provided only win16 ones. | Mar 31 02:52 |
| oiaohm | Basically doomed OS/2 from making any progress particularly when win32 released and it was now incompadible. | Mar 31 02:52 |
| razielle_tzu | ouch | Mar 31 02:53 |
| Guest30739 | razielle_tzu: FreeBSD | Mar 31 02:53 |
| oiaohm | That is 4 year time frame. | Mar 31 02:53 |
| oiaohm | So 4 years from now Microsoft could be feeling ouch if ubuntu team plans this well. | Mar 31 02:53 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Mar 31 02:54 |
| oiaohm | Question is who is EEE who. | Mar 31 02:54 |
| razielle_tzu | they both could be trying to EEE the other, which will come out on top is another matter | Mar 31 02:54 |
| oiaohm | People also forget early on microsoft release internet explorer for unix and stopped that once they had enough market share. | Mar 31 02:55 |
| razielle_tzu | i didn't forget that, i didnt know about it. i haven't read up on microsoft's history and spent a long time using Amigas before i finally had to use windows for school | Mar 31 02:56 |
| oiaohm | Normally in effective EEE you make your stuff work on your opposition platform then pull the rug out from under it. | Mar 31 02:56 |
| oiaohm | MS Office on Android is following EEE model that could kind of work. | Mar 31 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu on Windows seams to be the exact reverse to what you want. | Mar 31 02:58 |
| oiaohm | as Microsoft | Mar 31 02:58 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't use any office software on my android devices but if i did it wouldn't be something MS put out anyway | Mar 31 02:59 |
| MinceR | for m$, making their stuff _work_ would be a challenge | Mar 31 02:59 |
| MinceR | they apparently don't believe in spending on engineers | Mar 31 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Also we have to remember the Oracle vs Google case over Java. | Mar 31 02:59 |
| oiaohm | That case means there is a horrible risk that the subsystem would have to be GPLv2. | Mar 31 03:00 |
| oiaohm | And if the vmware loses their case hello open source Windows. | Mar 31 03:00 |
| oiaohm | So the level of fire Microsoft is playing with is quite a lot. | Mar 31 03:00 |
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| oiaohm | The legal risk level kinda suggest Microsoft is desperate to slow down it server market loss of control. | Mar 31 03:01 |
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| MinceR | then again, it's sort of understandable | Mar 31 03:03 |
| MinceR | no self-respecting engineer would work with those criminal assholes | Mar 31 03:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: don't be too sure. | Mar 31 03:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the developer who designed the Linux kernel configuration script was latter highered by Microsoft. | Mar 31 03:06 |
| MinceR | he probably had no self-respect | Mar 31 03:07 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/Microsoft/msbuild | Mar 31 03:07 |
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| oiaohm | Its not that Microsoft is not attempting to go cross platform. The fact msbuild cannot build the first sample application cross platform is really a bad sign. | Mar 31 03:08 |
| oiaohm | Great new Microsoft project to kinda ruin self. https://github.com/Microsoft/BotBuilder How long before someone takes this and makes a spamming bot. | Mar 31 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | GitHub - Microsoft/BotBuilder: The Microsoft Bot Builder SDK is one of three main components of the Microsoft Bot Framework. The Microsoft Bot Framework provides just what you need to build and connect intelligent bots that interact naturally wherever your users are talking, from text/sms to Skype, Slack, Office 365 mail and other popular services. | Mar 31 03:10 | |
| MinceR | their own alleged "AI" bot already flooded twitter | Mar 31 03:10 |
| MinceR | so "how long" is 0s, or a negative amount | Mar 31 03:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I do notice Microsoft loves doing MIT licenses on everything. | Mar 31 03:14 |
| MinceR | no surprise there | Mar 31 03:18 |
| MinceR | freely usable in proprietary shit; no patent license | Mar 31 03:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also free to over license. | Mar 31 03:21 |
| oiaohm | MIT is a license you can over license with GPL or MPL | Mar 31 03:23 |
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| belle105 | hi does anyone knows how Lenovo deals with warranty requests ? | Mar 31 04:26 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: depend on country. Here in Australia you need up using fair trading requirement statements a lot. | Mar 31 04:29 |
| belle105 | UK they have my pad but want to charge me £181 | Mar 31 04:30 |
| belle105 | to fix it | Mar 31 04:30 |
| belle105 | even though was sent to them under the warranty | Mar 31 04:30 |
| belle105 | cost £229 for it as a new pad. | Mar 31 04:31 |
| belle105 | why do they charge if it is still under warranty ? | Mar 31 04:32 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: it called the fine print. The is a huge number of things that are not covered. | Mar 31 05:15 |
| oiaohm | belle105: and most of those fine print things don't legally apply in australia due to fair trading laws. | Mar 31 05:15 |
| belle105 | even if its a mjor thing such as the hard drive ? | Mar 31 05:15 |
| belle105 | major * | Mar 31 05:15 |
| razielle_tzu | it is down to what the failure is | Mar 31 05:16 |
| oiaohm | belle105: it what they class as a consumable. | Mar 31 05:16 |
| belle105 | hard drive is consumable ? | Mar 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | belle105: I know the argument over harddrive failing due to impact. | Mar 31 05:17 |
| belle105 | no impact. reasonale use. never falen or abused in any way . | Mar 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Fair trading laws here mandate that harddrives have to be able to tollerate up to a 10G impact. | Mar 31 05:17 |
| belle105 | fallen * | Mar 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Using what lenovo tries is 1 foot drop. | Mar 31 05:18 |
| belle105 | never been dropped. | Mar 31 05:18 |
| oiaohm | belle105: basically I don't know UK law. | Mar 31 05:18 |
| belle105 | its ok | Mar 31 05:18 |
| belle105 | thank you for trying | Mar 31 05:19 |
| oiaohm | belle105: dropped in the box while in shipping. | Mar 31 05:19 |
| belle105 | i will try call them again | Mar 31 05:19 |
| oiaohm | Really you need to know your consumer laws before talking to them. | Mar 31 05:19 |
| belle105 | i had it for 10 months before it gave up | Mar 31 05:19 |
| oiaohm | smart in harddrive is like a data logger. | Mar 31 05:20 |
| belle105 | hence why i am trying to find out now since 03:am its now 05:20 am they wont be open for a while yet | Mar 31 05:20 |
| belle105 | whats data logger | Mar 31 05:20 |
| belle105 | i am not a techie person | Mar 31 05:20 |
| oiaohm | Records everything that has happened to it. | Mar 31 05:20 |
| oiaohm | while its powered. | Mar 31 05:21 |
| oiaohm | There a g sensors and all kinds of stuff inside harddrives. | Mar 31 05:21 |
| belle105 | ok | Mar 31 05:22 |
| oiaohm | consumable that lenovo uses is anything that can be damaged by general wear and tear. That does include harddrives. | Mar 31 05:22 |
| belle105 | 10 months even for a cheap machine | Mar 31 05:23 |
| belle105 | is unacceptable | Mar 31 05:23 |
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| oiaohm | harddrives most common causes of earily death is heat and impacts | Mar 31 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes harddrive log both. | Mar 31 05:23 |
| belle105 | heat is something all laptops have a problem with i hear | Mar 31 05:23 |
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| oiaohm | Not all. | Mar 31 05:23 |
| oiaohm | All high performing laptops have heat trouble. | Mar 31 05:24 |
| belle105 | i changed to mac after that | Mar 31 05:24 |
| belle105 | its not too bad tbh | Mar 31 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Some of less powerful laptops do in fact operate at level they can cool properly. | Mar 31 05:24 |
| belle105 | remains cool most of the time | Mar 31 05:25 |
| oiaohm | mac have quite heavy cooling parts fitted and it shows. | Mar 31 05:25 |
| oiaohm | 1/4 the weight of a mac laptop is parts related to cool. | Mar 31 05:26 |
| belle105 | wow i didn't know that | Mar 31 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Not all laptops have heat trouble. | Mar 31 05:26 |
| belle105 | the guy at the shop told me i wont need a cooling pad. i didn't believe him to beging with . | Mar 31 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Was it intel graphics. | Mar 31 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Amd or Nvidia graphics in fact generate lots of heat. | Mar 31 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Even mac laptops forced to use Nvidia graphics all the time show heat rise. | Mar 31 05:28 |
| belle105 | yes | Mar 31 05:28 |
| belle105 | intel | Mar 31 05:28 |
| belle105 | it was just Lenovo flex 10 | Mar 31 05:29 |
| belle105 | but still expected it to last longer | Mar 31 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Chassis in those sux. If you can pick up a laptop and it flex main frame is not strong enough to hold parts well. | Mar 31 05:31 |
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| oiaohm | belle105: and I have not seen any laptop with a major fold back screen with decent cooling fitted. | Mar 31 05:34 |
| oiaohm | belle105: by being able to flip upside down ruin you means to depend on venting under keyboard and the like to let heat out of device. | Mar 31 05:36 |
| belle105 | it wasn't the important thing for me. it was the size tbh. | Mar 31 05:38 |
| belle105 | i have problems with my hands and weight/ size does matter in this case haha | Mar 31 05:39 |
| oiaohm | That means you will have problems. | Mar 31 05:39 |
| oiaohm | Cooling hardware has weight and there is no way around it. | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | thsi macbook pro is ok | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | its light | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | despite the fact its 13 inch | Mar 31 05:40 |
| oiaohm | The aluimuim case is part of the cooling system. | Mar 31 05:40 |
| belle105 | i imagine it is | Mar 31 05:41 |
| belle105 | feels very light and cool | Mar 31 05:41 |
| oiaohm | Basically most of the casing of the macbook pro is second job cooling. | Mar 31 05:41 |
| belle105 | bit on a bad day even this can fee heavy | Mar 31 05:41 |
| oiaohm | So hiding lot of it weight. | Mar 31 05:41 |
| belle105 | nice | Mar 31 05:42 |
| belle105 | now i just have to learn how to use mac to get the maximum out of my machine | Mar 31 05:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is there are a few lighter than the 13 inch macbook out there but then you start running to swaping non cooling plastic(basically insulation) for cooling material like aluimuim then you start having heat problems. | Mar 31 05:43 |
| oiaohm | belle105: basically for good operation you are very interested in how the case is setup to cool it. | Mar 31 05:45 |
| belle105 | good tip for next windows laptop if i buy one :) | Mar 31 05:45 |
| belle105 | thanks for the help and the time :) | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | oiahom | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | oiahm | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | sorry see my hands in action ? | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | oiaohm | Mar 31 05:46 |
| belle105 | what does your name mean? | Mar 31 05:47 |
| oiaohm | oiaohm= "Ok I Am Over Here Mate" | Mar 31 05:47 |
| belle105 | lol cool :) | Mar 31 05:48 |
| oiaohm | Overheating is bad design of one form or another. 1 bad chassis design. 2 overloading the design with likes of highpower Nvidia gpus. | Mar 31 05:50 |
| belle105 | problem is you don't get to find these things out in practice until you get it home. | Mar 31 05:51 |
| belle105 | overheating problem | Mar 31 05:51 |
| oiaohm | So excuse that is normal for laptops to be hot is badly wrong. Laptops are hot because people like 1 buying too many feature in a laptop so they don't have to have a desktop. 2 cheap junk(bad chassises). | Mar 31 05:51 |
| belle105 | i have a desktop, but unable to use it atm. its in storage. | Mar 31 05:52 |
| belle105 | i had it since 2008 | Mar 31 05:53 |
| belle105 | works fine | Mar 31 05:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3042720/software-games/amd-xconnect-aims-to-make-external-graphics-cards-for-laptops-much-more-reliable.html An attempt to work around problem. | Mar 31 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Yes external box for laptop for high powered graphics card so you don't cook the living heck out it. | Mar 31 05:53 |
| tessier | If you could chain external graphics cards on a bus the crypto currency guys would love it. | Mar 31 05:53 |
| oiaohm | belle105: desktops more air space simpler on cooling so last longer mostly because they are not getting over cook or transported/abused. | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | crypto currency as in encryptors ? | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | or as bit | Mar 31 05:55 |
| oiaohm | belle105: crypto currency covers stuff like bitcoins | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | yes ok | Mar 31 05:55 |
| belle105 | :) | Mar 31 05:56 |
| belle105 | that fan looks like a monster fan | Mar 31 05:58 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies most fun name is dogecoin | Mar 31 05:59 |
| belle105 | ha dogecoin :P | Mar 31 05:59 |
| belle105 | so many of them now | Mar 31 06:00 |
| belle105 | wasn't long ago since the argument if bitcoin was legitimate currency | Mar 31 06:01 |
| oiaohm | That dispute about if bitcoin is legitimate currency applies to all the crypto currencies | Mar 31 06:02 |
| belle105 | i imagine it would. i am not well read about it atm. never had a cause to use them. so far.... wondering if its a good thing to have different ones and if unifying them will invite more undesirable control over the internet. | Mar 31 06:05 |
| oiaohm | We don't have one unified global currency either. | Mar 31 06:08 |
| belle105 | true . but in EU there is one currency. excluding the UK | Mar 31 06:09 |
| belle105 | so i am wondering if they will attempt to unify it | Mar 31 06:10 |
| oiaohm | I would say unlikely. | Mar 31 06:10 |
| belle105 | i am not sure it is good for the internet to have too many regulations. | Mar 31 06:10 |
| belle105 | but that is another conversation | Mar 31 06:11 |
| belle105 | thanks oiahm G'day | Mar 31 06:11 |
| belle105 | oiaohm | Mar 31 06:11 |
| belle105 | :) | Mar 31 06:11 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 31 10:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/715471244620005377 | Mar 31 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @schestowitz EPO Appeal Board condemns examination delay https://t.co/eD29DoasDG | Mar 31 10:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.managingip.com | EPO: EPO Appeal Board condemns examination delay | Managing Intellectual Property | Mar 31 10:35 | |
| schestowitz | Cited this yesterday | Mar 31 10:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715477394690183170 | Mar 31 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: What a bunch of db's. https://t.co/0TYg56XrQ7 | Mar 31 10:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why you should boycott #cloudflare both as host/Web developer and visitor https://t.co/i5FEjpu2wa they damage the #internet | Mar 31 10:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics Driver for Linux,...' | Mar 31 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | > x | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049715/microsoft-windows/bash-on-windows-is-just-the-beginning-for-microsofts-linux-experiments.html | Mar 31 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Bash on Windows: Only the beginning of the Microsoft-Linux experiment | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/opwm0 ] | Mar 31 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > tcsh was ported many, many years ago already. | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > - | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://blog.nullspace.io/batch.html | Mar 31 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nullspace.io | How bad is the Windows command line really? | Mar 31 11:04 | |
| schestowitz | > http://www.wired.com/2016/03/microsoft-making-linux-apps-run-windows-isnt-crazy/ | Mar 31 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Why Microsoft Making Linux Apps Run on Windows Isn’t Crazy | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/opwm9 ] | Mar 31 11:05 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 31 11:05 |
| schestowitz | > EEE. Canonical is doing a Novell | Mar 31 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, so much has been said about this that I'd rather focus on EPO for now... | Mar 31 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Not exact | Mar 31 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Novell start porting Linux/Unix application to be windows native. | Mar 31 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Canonical is making Linux native binaries work on Windows. | Mar 31 11:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: funny what wired started reason for having Ubuntu compadiblity is why IBM made Odin for OS/2 with win16 support. | Mar 31 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer Chromebook 14 arrives with aluminium | Mar 31 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | chassis and 14-hour battery life | Mar 31 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Acer Chromebook 14 arrives with aluminium chassis and 14-hour battery life- The Inquirer | Mar 31 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Video: Comparing Fedora 23 and Korora 23 | Mar 31 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Cinnamon) https://t.co/dP2SiB4mvd | Mar 31 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.montanalinux.org | Video: Comparing Fedora 23 and Korora 23 (Cinnamon) | MontanaLinux.org | Mar 31 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics | Mar 31 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Mar 31 11:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/s4wnpX241u (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 31 11:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Nvidia Releases Long-Lived 361.42 Graphics Driver for Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris | Mar 31 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/unfiltered-opinion/open-source-and-microsoft-build.html | Mar 31 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itbusinessedge.com | Open Source and Microsoft Build | Mar 31 11:45 | |
| schestowitz | "One of the meetings that I remember most clearly was when Jim Allchin, who owned Windows at the time, met with me at my home. " | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Enderle | Mar 31 11:45 |
| schestowitz | meeting Microsoft at home | Mar 31 11:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/715493304104673281 | Mar 31 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz Why you should boycott #cloudflare both as host/Web developer and visitor https://t.co/ffHr8RwAzb they damage the #internet | Mar 31 11:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.cloudflare.com | The Trouble with Tor | Mar 31 11:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/715493464276934656 | Mar 31 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: Or, why Facebook must die. https://t.co/b3K1pc80RX | Mar 31 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Drupal creator on saving the open web https://t.co/8hEvZ7Wv9E while #w3c helps kill it. #freesw #gpl | Mar 31 12:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Reiser4 Now Available For Linux 4.5 Kernel | Mar 31 12:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Reiser4 Now Available For Linux 4.5 Kernel - Phoronix | Mar 31 12:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SMARC COM and IoT gateway SBC are buzzing with | Mar 31 12:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wireless https://t.co/eb6xRzvsj1 | Mar 31 12:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | SMARC COM and IoT gateway SBC are buzzing with wireless | Mar 31 12:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Epiphany 3.20 https://t.co/3nn9OK2N6X | Mar 31 12:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA 361.42 Linux Driver Brings Bug Fixes, | Mar 31 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New GPU Support https://t.co/g3wjM9nVvp | Mar 31 12:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NVIDIA 361.42 Linux Driver Brings Bug Fixes, New GPU Support - Phoronix | Mar 31 12:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Was Only 4 Years Ago That Many Thought Steam | Mar 31 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | On Linux Was An April Fools’ Day Joke | Mar 31 12:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | It Was Only 4 Years Ago That Many Thought Steam On Linux Was An April Fools' Day Joke - Phoronix | Mar 31 12:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenToonz is coming to gnu linux | Mar 31 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YRgAXeEUJ5 (github.com) | Mar 31 12:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Edits to build in Linux by ideasman42 · Pull Request #51 · opentoonz/opentoonz · GitHub | Mar 31 12:23 | |
| cubexyz | Microsoft's philosophy and "ethics" have always been bullshit | Mar 31 12:28 |
| cubexyz | the borg motif is apt, that's all they ever were | Mar 31 12:28 |
| cubexyz | and IBM and DEC.... they were both losers | Mar 31 12:29 |
| cubexyz | they did great work, but they messed up in the end | Mar 31 12:29 |
| cubexyz | IBM was a proto-Microsoft, hoarding as many hadware and software patents as possible | Mar 31 12:31 |
| cubexyz | basically IBM invented the hard drive and floppy drive | Mar 31 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sabayon 16.04 GNOME Screenshot Tour | Mar 31 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Sabayon 16.04 GNOME Screenshot Tour | Mar 31 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Screenshot Tour | Mar 31 12:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxscreenshots.org) more at | Mar 31 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxscreenshots.org | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Screenshot Tour | Mar 31 12:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.2.0 Is Out, Bodhi Linux 4.0 Coming in August Based on Ubuntu 16.04 | Mar 31 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Acer Chromebook 14 arrives with aluminium | Mar 31 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | chassis and 14-hour battery life | Mar 31 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6jga4ZsRPN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 31 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acer Chromebook 14 arrives with aluminium chassis and 14-hour battery life | Tux Machines | Mar 31 12:35 | |
| cubexyz | you could even say IBM invented the modern computer (transistorized stored program computer) | Mar 31 12:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/715503496427081728 | Mar 31 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Commissioned by dark tank @CIGIonline: https://t.co/XX6LORVe6a | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Since a "dark net" does not exist (it's a propaganda term) this poll is loaded, misleading, biased https://t.co/nJOhd5bhgV | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/715502468319297537 | Mar 31 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Одна из так и не закрытых в последней версии уязвимостей OSx умещается в 1 твит. #Apple опасна. Как все неопенсоурс. https://t.co/mYNZiuWm63 | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Apple's fruitless rootless security broken by code that fits in a tweet https://t.co/DKFcQFiPWQ #apple #security | Mar 31 12:39 | |
| cubexyz | and the funny thing about software was, in the old days you got often got the source code for your operating system! | Mar 31 12:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txt | Mar 31 12:40 |
| cubexyz | DMS or OS/360-MVT? Full source was/is available | Mar 31 12:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, my advice to everyone is simple... | Mar 31 12:47 |
| cubexyz | stick with some FOSS operating system, my main recommendations are: slackware and derivatives like vector, and openbsd | Mar 31 12:48 |
| cubexyz | also the old IBM operating systems are interesting enough to try on emulated hardware | Mar 31 12:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodhi 3.2.0, SCOmbie Lives, Winbuntu | Mar 31 12:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BMW complies with GPL by handing over i3 car | Mar 31 12:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | code https://t.co/UDZDW9rk6i | Mar 31 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BMW complies with GPL by handing over i3 car code | Tux Machines | Mar 31 12:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Drupal creator on saving the open web | Mar 31 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Drupal creator on saving the open web | Tux Machines | Mar 31 12:57 | |
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| cubexyz | windows 10 using bash may not end up a bad thing | Mar 31 13:09 |
| cubexyz | gets windows folks used to bash at least | Mar 31 13:10 |
| schestowitz | no | Mar 31 13:14 |
| schestowitz | helps MS keep enterprises on Windows | Mar 31 13:14 |
| schestowitz | saying it's the best of both worlds | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | also compromises security | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | people's private keys and such stored on Vista 10 with spying, back doors, etc. | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | it's a farce | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | but will they pull it off? | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | I doubt it | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | people could run bash on Windows befor | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | not many did | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | cygwin for instance | Mar 31 13:15 |
| cubexyz | it's spreading more GPL software though | Mar 31 13:15 |
| schestowitz | I used it 15 years ago | Mar 31 13:15 |
| cubexyz | well, of course there's no reason to go the other way :) | Mar 31 13:16 |
| schestowitz | and bosses can insist people don't use gnu/linux at work | Mar 31 13:17 |
| cubexyz | if you're already in Linux/BSD-land you'll not move to windows 10 | Mar 31 13:17 |
| schestowitz | "just 'upgrade' to Vista 10, Jake...' | Mar 31 13:17 |
| cubexyz | the scientists and thinkers will stick with Linux/BSD/FOSS-OS | Mar 31 13:17 |
| cubexyz | no one will want to run windows 10 as the server, it just doesn't work well with forced upgrades | Mar 31 13:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Positive progress on WebKitGTK+ security | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | updates https://t.co/45jR0DBijS | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Golden chance to translate Fedora 24 in your | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Exec: Why Red Hat's new partnership with | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sandisk matters https://t.co/SurOchj5Iv | Mar 31 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.bizjournals.com) | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Exec: Red Hat, SanDisk partnership further validates InkTank buy - Triangle Business Journal | Mar 31 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE and GNOME https://t.co/YBcMvhQjYL | Mar 31 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and GNOME | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/RygCTOFDqu | Mar 31 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Free Software and Proprietary Games, Vivaldi | Mar 31 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and Proprietary Games, Vivaldi | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/jKWT3nI9JB | Mar 31 13:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 13:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/PZzm1ZvxGS | Mar 31 13:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 31 14:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 31/3/2016: Bodhi Linux 3.2.0, Kirigami UI | Mar 31 14:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/3/2016: Bodhi Linux 3.2.0, Kirigami UI | Techrights | Mar 31 14:00 | |
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| __martin__ | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2452793/sco-vs-ibm-13-year-old-linux-dispute-returns-as-sco-files-new-appeal | Mar 31 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | SCO vs IBM: 13-year-old Linux dispute returns as SCO files new appeal- The Inquirer | Mar 31 15:55 | |
| __martin__ | april the first it tomorrow right | Mar 31 15:55 |
| __martin__ | meanwhile.. LINE is not an emulator | Mar 31 15:56 |
| __martin__ | :'D | Mar 31 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tekcurmudgeon/status/715622553608282112 | Mar 31 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tekcurmudgeon: @schestowitz That was a dark episode in history for sure...however, I fear we're on the verge of another--one that's far far worse. | Mar 31 20:34 | |
| MinceR | http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-countries-that-elected-their-own-trump-long-time-ago/ | Mar 31 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | A Look At Our Future: 5 Nations Who Elected Their Trump | Cracked.com | Mar 31 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715623936189304832 | Mar 31 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: There are many reasons I wish people wouldn't use Charp for coding. Much less use the .NET platform. https://t.co/CVjxCt0knt | Mar 31 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: On #microsoft with #ximian #novell #xamarin #mono #moonlight etc. https://t.co/37zkLiOI1l #swpats Trojan horses | Mar 31 20:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darksim905/status/715626274509754368 | Mar 31 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darksim905: @schestowitz @AnarchistDalek Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people who actually do want Microsoft to continue to be successful :-) | Mar 31 20:51 | |
| schestowitz | there are also many proprietary software proponents out there... | Mar 31 20:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715626308663951360 | Mar 31 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: I thought you meant washboard @schestowitz You know. Those things you strum with a guitar plectrum. | Mar 31 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe they needed it for Ballmer's shirt | Mar 31 20:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715627110858104834 | Mar 31 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz C# can be fun, and is your main friend if you use Unity (the game engine, not window manager). | Mar 31 20:53 | |
| schestowitz | C# is platform lockin | Mar 31 20:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715627285353742336 | Mar 31 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz but I imagine your worries come more from a platform standpoint rather than the language itself | Mar 31 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Mar 31 20:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715627471513657344 | Mar 31 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz yeah, it's a shame that. And why I use other engines instead of Unity. I don't intend to ever learn Charp | Mar 31 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/fordham-2016-copyright-and-trade-mark.html?showComment=1459448690319#c6277509502471203839 | Mar 31 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Fordham 2016: Copyright and trade mark - what does the future hold? [ http://ur1.ca/opzsv ] | Mar 31 20:57 | |
| schestowitz | " Dimitris pronounced it E.U.I.P.O. " | Mar 31 20:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715628603204116482 | Mar 31 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Shirt did look a bit filthy last time I talked to him @schestowitz Bill Gates playing the ukulele at Boston LinuxCon 2006 finished me. | Mar 31 20:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715629415359766533 https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715629502756478976 | Mar 31 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @schestowitz @retroDoomer I get that it's not perfect... but it's also not that bad anymore. Different story if you depend on some specific | Mar 31 20:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @schestowitz @retroDoomer stuff like Windows.Forms or whatever, but it certainly has come a long way thanks to Xamarin | Mar 31 20:59 | |
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| schestowitz | No, Xamarin is a Trojan horse that helps #microsoft dominate and control developers, under false pretenses | Mar 31 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/715629716842102784 | Mar 31 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Can't argue with that @schestowitz | Mar 31 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715629766691332096 | Mar 31 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz Which is kind of the point though, the specifics. As long as it's an MS project, it'll never have platform equality | Mar 31 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/D2KX_/status/715630375695986688 | Mar 31 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D2KX_: @retroDoomer @schestowitz it becomes more of a discussion about frameworks than C# itself at this point though | Mar 31 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | not necessarily, C# in its own right is tightly connected to and generalisable to a framework (.NET) | Mar 31 21:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/retroDoomer/status/715630658719121408 | Mar 31 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@retroDoomer: @D2KX_ @schestowitz Yeah sorry, I refer to it all as C#. Can't really have one without the other afaik | Mar 31 21:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights https://t.co/E7QU6WCXII | Mar 31 21:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 31 21:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big karma points to linux foundation for | Mar 31 21:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | helping to educate about #freesw enforcement | Mar 31 21:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Free 'law for Linux developers' class opens its virtual doors | ZDNet | Mar 31 21:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gocertify.com | Certification Watch (Vol. 19, No. 13) - GoCertify | Mar 31 21:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five great keyboard alternatives for Android | Mar 31 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tablets https://t.co/EsDvEZK4yM | Mar 31 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Five great keyboard alternatives for Android tablets - TechRepublic | Mar 31 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Nexus 6P vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge—Two | Mar 31 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Android’s finest https://t.co/M0nOkYwwWy | Mar 31 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com | Google Nexus 6P vs. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge—Two of Android's finest | Mar 31 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Status QtWebEngine in KDEPIM | Mar 31 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-famillemontel.org | Status QtWebEngine in KDEPIM | KDEPIM KDE and opensource | Mar 31 21:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now | Mar 31 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 21:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo | Mar 31 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for $230 and up https://t.co/Bbh9bGmI73 | Mar 31 21:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MJ Technology's Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230 and up - Liliputing | Mar 31 21:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @CrowdfundCon favourited 'MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230...' | Mar 31 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | milestone https://t.co/T8m0iOcVdG | Mar 31 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Legacy PCs Continue Nose-diving In 2016 | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/InCETfpliG (mrpogson.com) "PCs, | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | servers and some gadgets, many running | Mar 31 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux." | Mar 31 21:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Legacy PCs Continue Nose-diving In 2016 | Robert Pogson | Mar 31 21:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big...' | Mar 31 21:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big...' | Mar 31 21:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @urbanmoon favourited 'Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big...' | Mar 31 22:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Is Looking Great, Running Well | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Is Looking Great, Running Well - Phoronix | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Don't Starve: Shipwrecked Expansion sails out | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of Early Access, Linux supported | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Don't Starve: Shipwrecked Expansion sails out of Early Access, Linux supported | GamingOnLinux | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CodeWeavers Announces CrossOver 15.1.0 for | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8.1 | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CodeWeavers Announces CrossOver 15.1.0 for Linux and Mac, Based on Wine 1.8.1 | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.3 Development Continues, Now Rebased on Linux Kernel 4.4.6 LTS | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo | Mar 31 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for $230 and up https://t.co/kS68B24g4e | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MJ Technology’s Ubuntu tablet hits Indiegogo for $230 and up | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big | Mar 31 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/oHmn7xnw2Y | Mar 31 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phoronix on Graphics | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Abot — How To Make Your Own Digital Assistant | Mar 31 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With This Free And Open Source Tool | Mar 31 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Abot — How To Make Your Own Digital Assistant With This Free And Open Source Tool | Tux Machines | Mar 31 22:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Unreal Engine 4.11 Released With Better | Mar 31 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Performance & Greater Visuals | Mar 31 22:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unreal Engine 4.11 Released With Better Performance & Greater Visuals - Phoronix | Mar 31 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/xscmanns/status/715653219465043968 | Mar 31 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xscmanns: and I've only tested a good dozen using Steam_Linux on FreeBSD w/linux compat. The list shall grow https://t.co/qIkjhRYWzi | Mar 31 22:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux now has 2,000 games on Steam, big milestone https://t.co/kN95sXwRTX #gnu #linux #games | Mar 31 22:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines There Is A Steam Linux Game Where Nouveau On | Mar 31 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kepler Is Outperforming NVIDIA's Blob | Mar 31 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | There Is A Steam Linux Game Where Nouveau On Kepler Is Outperforming NVIDIA's Blob - Phoronix | Mar 31 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Xiaomi's compact Mi 5 could be a game | Mar 31 22:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpit.com | Why Xiaomi's compact Mi 5 could be a game changer - AndroidPIT | Mar 31 22:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.expertreviews.co.uk | Top 5 lightweight Linux distros for older PCs | Expert Reviews | Mar 31 23:04 | |
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| cubexyz | I just had to say that :) | Mar 31 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 31 23:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Mar 31 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret | Mar 31 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Mar 31 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maramala/status/715672022030819333 | Mar 31 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs | Techrights | Mar 31 23:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maramala: .@schestowitz Mind blown (...though obvious in hindsight, but still). Always wondered why we had to save everything back when I was in SEO. | Mar 31 23:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and...' | Mar 31 23:55 | |
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| oiaohm | https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/PATENTS.TXT still limited that you cannot fork it. | Mar 31 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | mono/PATENTS.TXT at master · mono/mono · GitHub | Mar 31 23:55 | |
| MinceR | 01 005422 < TweetTuxMachines> @tuxmachines Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and | Mar 31 23:56 |
| MinceR | april fools already? | Mar 31 23:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/715673817981526017 | Mar 31 23:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz too early, my insider report is scheduled for tomorrow | Mar 31 23:58 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is here | Mar 31 23:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 31 23:59 |
| MinceR | oh, now i see the tags | Mar 31 23:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715675500316921856 | Apr 01 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz I wish. | Apr 01 00:03 | |
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| schestowitz | I'd be the first one to congratulate them. Spend a decade on this. 20,000+ posts. | Apr 01 00:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715675798120898560 https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715675898410897408 | Apr 01 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz simple truth is i actually thought @sjvn ’s story on Ubuntu/Windows at first was an early April fools prank too... | Apr 01 00:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @schestowitz @sjvn but it’s not! .. man do i hate April 1st ... | Apr 01 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | SJVN didn't 'break' the news though. Three Microsoft 'news' sites said it the night before and i wrote about it. | Apr 01 00:04 |
| schestowitz | first reports: http://mspoweruser.com/you-might-be-able-to-run-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-10-soon/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-show-bash-on-linux-running-on-windows-10/ http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-set-announce-bash-linux-running-windows-10-according-reports I watch these things closely | Apr 01 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mspoweruser.com | You might be able to run Bash on Ubuntu on Windows 10 soon - MSPoweruser [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t2 ] | Apr 01 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Microsoft to show Bash on Linux running on Windows 10 | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t3 ] | Apr 01 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winbeta.org | Microsoft set to announce bash on Linux running on Windows 10 [ http://ur1.ca/oq0t4 ] | Apr 01 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | whereupon I wrote http://techrights.org/2016/03/29/microsoft-attacks-linux/ (trying to focus on #epo but couldn't just totally ignore this) | Apr 01 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Attacks Linux: More EEE Tactics, Romanian Bribes, and Steps to Undermine Chinese GNU/Linux Migrations | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/oq0tb ] | Apr 01 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715677020223569921 | Apr 01 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @TechJournalist @schestowitz I sweated bullets on that one since I had to draw the lines between the dots. Fortunately, I nailed it. | Apr 01 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | it was basically Microsoft reinventing cygwin (which I used 15+ years ago), early reports misled | Apr 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | i thought it was an attempt to get some PR out of their cancelled project to let android applications run on winblows | Apr 01 00:09 |
| schestowitz | "None. Microsoft declares darkness the standard." http://www.zpub.com/un/bill/light.html nothing invented until #microsoft says so. | Apr 01 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zpub.com | How many Microsoft engineers needed to screw a light bulb ?? | Apr 01 00:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that too | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | it never really happened | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | last I read, they called it off | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | just under a month ago | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned this in passing | Apr 01 00:11 |
| schestowitz | they're losing it | Apr 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | but trying to drag linux down with them | Apr 01 00:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/715677184212471808 | Apr 01 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TechJournalist: @sjvn that you did. hope the traffic analytics etc, rewarded you for your efforts. | Apr 01 00:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715677646483496960 | Apr 01 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz @schestowitz @maryjofoley got the first dots. I think I was the 1st to say "This can't be containers, it has to be native." | Apr 01 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | coLinux :-) | Apr 01 00:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.colinux.org/ | Apr 01 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.colinux.org | Cooperative Linux | Apr 01 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/epo-deal-with-trade-union-not-what-it.html?showComment=1459433679033#c2993788038032819246 | Apr 01 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: EPO deal with trade union - not what it seems | Apr 01 00:16 | |
| schestowitz | " I am wondering whether these back checks are in compliance with Rule 153 EPC provided that the "visitor" is a professional representative. " | Apr 01 00:16 |
| schestowitz | EPO... | Apr 01 00:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/715680401633775617 | Apr 01 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sjvn: @schestowitz @maryfofoley I know ccLinux. I'll be writing a piece on what WSL is, and isn't and it's place in history soon. | Apr 01 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | There are a couple more examples of 'prior art' whose name I cannot recall. Anyway, it's not a new thing. | Apr 01 00:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stephstad/status/715687810158751744 | Apr 01 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stephstad: @schestowitz not an April Fools joke! We just made the announcement - both of those links work now (for me) https://t.co/dZ07Gq1qKS | Apr 01 00:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RedHatNews: [NEWS] Red Hat Expands Red Hat Developer Program with No-Cost Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer Subscription https://t.co/MnRYC4Xf3D | Apr 01 00:51 | |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Apr 01 00:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/87646 | Apr 01 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free RHEL for Developers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 00:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What one silly app reveals about Google's grand | Apr 01 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | plan for Android https://t.co/WXr1LK8ZxO | Apr 01 00:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | What one silly app reveals about Google's grand plan for Android | Computerworld | Apr 01 00:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu-Based Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition | Apr 01 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Laptop Launches in Europe | Apr 01 00:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu-Based Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition Laptop Launches in Europe | Apr 01 00:58 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the other thing notice a lot of people are being investaged and done for bribes over software at the moment. | Apr 01 02:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: EEE normally does involve bribes in places and those backfire in time as well. | Apr 01 02:58 |
| MinceR | i doubt we've seen the last of corruption | Apr 01 02:59 |
| MinceR | not by a long shot | Apr 01 02:59 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying we have seen the end of it. | Apr 01 03:00 |
| oiaohm | FOSS stuff does limit options for corruption. | Apr 01 03:01 |
| MinceR | which might be yet another reason the oligarchs are trying hard to destroy it | Apr 01 03:01 |
| oiaohm | The problem with Ubuntu on Windows is Ubuntu has been careful to get into the promise running unmodified Ubuntu binaries. | Apr 01 03:11 |
| oiaohm | That kinda adds extend problem as that would require modified Ubuntu binaries. | Apr 01 03:11 |
| MinceR | and how will that promise be enforced? | Apr 01 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Its what Microsoft has promise to customers. | Apr 01 03:12 |
| oiaohm | If it does not happen down the road Microsoft will end up paying for it like RTF has triggered now. | Apr 01 03:12 |
| MinceR | ah, so in no way whatsoever | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | as for customers, m$ has been fucking them over hard for years and yet they still have customers | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | and cultists | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that most humans are simply incapable of learning | Apr 01 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Supply requirements do hit Microsoft. | Apr 01 03:13 |
| MinceR | i'll believe it when i see it happen. | Apr 01 03:14 |
| oiaohm | You have seen MS Office having to add ODF then keep on improving it to keep up with Supply requirements. | Apr 01 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Now if supply requirements becomes able to run Linux Standard base testsuite then things will get fun. | Apr 01 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Basically Microsoft with Ubuntu on Windows risks opening pandora. | Apr 01 03:15 |
| MinceR | except the LSB is maintained the LF | Apr 01 03:15 |
| MinceR | and m$ has bought itself into LF | Apr 01 03:16 |
| MinceR | and even has some allies hellbent on destroying GNU/Linux in there | Apr 01 03:16 |
| MinceR | the LSB is worse than useless at this point, just like the LF | Apr 01 03:16 |
| oiaohm | Linux world is like hurding cats no single point is fully in control. | Apr 01 03:17 |
| oiaohm | But single points can bring annoying trouble. | Apr 01 03:17 |
| MinceR | ask the distros following ratcrap's lead and claiming it would be too much work to remove cancerd's tentacles from everything about that. | Apr 01 03:18 |
| MinceR | especially debilian | Apr 01 03:18 |
| oiaohm | systemd will get simpler to remove in time. | Apr 01 03:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, because it will take over everything | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | and then removing systemd will mean installing a different OS and using different programs | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Not at all. | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Do you know why cgroup management had to be in init 1. | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | so, where do you see the maximum extent of cancerd? | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | because everything had to be in pid1 | Apr 01 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Wrong | Apr 01 03:19 |
| MinceR | because separation of concerns is for unix | Apr 01 03:20 |
| oiaohm | There is a Linux kernel design issue handling cgroups. | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | and so is memory protection and multiprocessing | Apr 01 03:20 |
| oiaohm | Solution is in fact cgroup v2 and with cgroup v2 allows proper cgroup namespace splitting. | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | even if they make Linux require running systemd, that does not change my point | Apr 01 03:20 |
| MinceR | even if they make Linux require running systemd _and_ incapable of running any other process beside it, that does not change my point | Apr 01 03:21 |
| oiaohm | What I am talking about will in time remove systemd from being required. | Apr 01 03:21 |
| MinceR | and there already are a lot of things in cancerd that have nothing to do with cgroups or reaping zombies or process management | Apr 01 03:21 |
| MinceR | so, again, where will they stop? | Apr 01 03:21 |
| oiaohm | That is looking at this from the wrong way. | Apr 01 03:24 |
| oiaohm | To work out exactly what was broken with cgroups and namespaces required having something to push it to limits. | Apr 01 03:24 |
| MinceR | it didn't require turning most major distros into useless crap, though | Apr 01 03:25 |
| MinceR | yet that's exactly what they did. | Apr 01 03:25 |
| oiaohm | systemd distrupting other tools attempting to use cgroups and so on. leads to that stuff being fixed up. | Apr 01 03:25 |
| MinceR | for whom? | Apr 01 03:25 |
| MinceR | who will use that stuff, once cancerd eats everything in unix? | Apr 01 03:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 with namespace cgroup mode allows a namespaced section to run own cgroups | Apr 01 03:26 |
| oiaohm | Without messing with system wide or using anything other than kernel syscalls. | Apr 01 03:26 |
| MinceR | also, did NTPD try to use cgroups? | Apr 01 03:26 |
| MinceR | did crond? | Apr 01 03:27 |
| MinceR | or did apache or lighttpd? | Apr 01 03:27 |
| MinceR | or perhaps grub or elilo used cgroups? | Apr 01 03:27 |
| oiaohm | Really lot of wrong examples mixed in there. | Apr 01 03:28 |
| oiaohm | apache and cron both had extentions to use cgroups to restriect sub processes from inflicting hell on the system. | Apr 01 03:28 |
| oiaohm | cgroups are about controlling how much cpu/mem and other resources a group of processes can use. | Apr 01 03:29 |
| oiaohm | That is a highly useful thing. | Apr 01 03:29 |
| oiaohm | The fact with cgroup v1 it would not stack properly and other things made those features in kernel fairly much not useable. | Apr 01 03:30 |
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| MinceR | depends on what you consider "wrong" | Apr 01 03:31 |
| MinceR | point is that there's no scope to cancerd, there's no rhyme or reason to what it gobbles up | Apr 01 03:31 |
| oiaohm | Allowing process to be listed in 2 incompadible cgroups. | Apr 01 03:31 |
| MinceR | there's no way of knowing how or where or when or if ever it will stop | Apr 01 03:31 |
| oiaohm | So causing a system lock up. I don't see how that could ever be right. | Apr 01 03:31 |
| MinceR | (well, except that once the fascists wipe out computing, that will take cancerd out) | Apr 01 03:32 |
| MinceR | sounds like cgroups is a huge fuckup that should never have been attempted | Apr 01 03:32 |
| oiaohm | systemd started as something to attempt to use all the functionality Linux kernel in fact offers in a init system. | Apr 01 03:32 |
| MinceR | they just can't get it right and pile errors on errors | Apr 01 03:32 |
| oiaohm | systemd proved cgroup v1 design was not repairable. | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | "to use all the functionality in underlying software" is a terrible design goal | Apr 01 03:33 |
| oiaohm | But a great test suite goal. | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | unless you're building a test tool | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | but systemd was never marketed as a test suite | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | it was marketed as an init system | Apr 01 03:33 |
| oiaohm | If you read the first release statement it clearly states the goal. | Apr 01 03:33 |
| MinceR | is that compatible with the monster it already bloated into? | Apr 01 03:34 |
| oiaohm | This is why I am kinda not supprised that it going all directions. | Apr 01 03:34 |
| MinceR | afaik even poettering couldn't really define what cancerd is supposed to be | Apr 01 03:34 |
| oiaohm | He did define it as a init system built for Linux using all of it functionality | Apr 01 03:35 |
| oiaohm | For the most secure init system possible. | Apr 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | well, it is not an init system | Apr 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | and calling it secure is even more laughable | Apr 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | the latest marketing bullshit is "systemd is a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system.[C" | Apr 01 03:36 |
| oiaohm | That was the goal. | Apr 01 03:36 |
| MinceR | from https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ | Apr 01 03:36 |
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| oiaohm | Did I say they have made it. | Apr 01 03:36 |
| MinceR | that is not a thing | Apr 01 03:36 |
| MinceR | that's like calling a text editor "a set of bits that do something on a computer" | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | there are tons of software you could call it "a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system" that look or work nothing alike. | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | s/it// | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | s/ / / | Apr 01 03:37 |
| MinceR | "Linux" systems are diverse and are built from many kinds of components | Apr 01 03:38 |
| MinceR | compare a typical GNU/Linux distro with a BusyBox/Linux distro and Android | Apr 01 03:38 |
| oiaohm | https://busybox.net/~vda/init_vs_runsv.html busybox and android developers don't like sysvinit either. | Apr 01 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-busybox.net | NO TITLE | Apr 01 03:40 | |
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| MinceR | irrelevant | Apr 01 03:40 |
| oiaohm | Android in it init system does use cgroups. | Apr 01 03:40 |
| MinceR | therefore cgroup manager is not strictly "a basic building block for a Linux system", is it? | Apr 01 03:41 |
| oiaohm | Like or not most of the schedulers in fact depend in cgroup information. Without a cgroup manager you end up having to use a horrible to fake it https://lwn.net/Articles/415740/ | Apr 01 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | TTY-based group scheduling [LWN.net] | Apr 01 03:43 | |
| MinceR | again, irrelevant | Apr 01 03:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so to have a Linux kernel function correctly you really do need a cgroup manager. | Apr 01 03:43 |
| MinceR | no, then i need Linux to be unfucked | Apr 01 03:43 |
| MinceR | there was a rule about not breaking userspace | Apr 01 03:43 |
| MinceR | how does working around kernel bugs in userspace obey that rule? | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | solaris has zones windows has sessions Freebsd has another grouping tech. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| MinceR | irrelevant | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | All OS have some group tech. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | That group tech has to be managed. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| oiaohm | end of story basically. | Apr 01 03:44 |
| MinceR | also, it's quite interesting how things we happily did before cancerd came out of the woodwork were suddenly declared to be impossible by our wannabe overlords | Apr 01 03:44 |
| MinceR | no, i can just build a kernel without that shitty "tech" | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | and then it doesn't need to be managed. | Apr 01 03:45 |
| oiaohm | Then you complain about a set of performance issues. | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | and we can revisit that "tech" once they manage to implement it in a way that does not sucks. | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | s/ks/k/ | Apr 01 03:45 |
| MinceR | can you quote me complaining about performance issues? | Apr 01 03:45 |
| oiaohm | You might not have but a lot before systemd were already attempting to get around the performance issues. | Apr 01 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Like there is no point a process having cpu time if it does not have io time and the like. | Apr 01 03:46 |
| oiaohm | cgroups are kind of a required evil so the schedulers can have enough to make correct selections. | Apr 01 03:47 |
| MinceR | well, if cgroups can't function without cancerd, then it's a shitty design | Apr 01 03:48 |
| MinceR | and the people who came up with it can fuck off and go back to m$ | Apr 01 03:48 |
| MinceR | we already have a kernel built by idiots for idiots who enjoy shitty designs, it's called windows nt | Apr 01 03:49 |
| oiaohm | cgroups v2 alterations are not about making it work with systemd but in fact about making it work. | Apr 01 03:49 |
| oiaohm | No matter the init system. | Apr 01 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Or the combination of tools. | Apr 01 03:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroupv1 predates systemd and did not have anything to give it a decent work out where stacking was being forced. | Apr 01 03:50 |
| MinceR | looks like this applies to the entirety of cgroups and systemd as well: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420 | Apr 01 03:50 |
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| MinceR | the kernel does shitty things userspace has to work around | Apr 01 03:51 |
| MinceR | and half of the userspace has to be thrown out to accommodate the enormous hack they have for that purpose | Apr 01 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Really systemd changed very little of userspace interfaces. | Apr 01 03:53 |
| oiaohm | Has questioned a lot of the provides. | Apr 01 03:53 |
| MinceR | except it broke init, cron, and who knows what else | Apr 01 03:54 |
| oiaohm | There was a rework to the command line handling in 2015. | Apr 01 03:54 |
| MinceR | like this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783683 | Apr 01 03:54 |
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| MinceR | oh, right, it also fucked up the kernel command line handling | Apr 01 03:55 |
| MinceR | flooded the syslog until the system crashed if you put "debug" in it | Apr 01 03:55 |
| MinceR | and now we're supposed to throw out all the system, use cancerd in its place, and we are also required to like it | Apr 01 03:55 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: no the new command line handling means applications don't need to attempt to re token the command like the token form is provided in /proc as well. | Apr 01 03:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: exactly why did every application wantting to see if Linux kernel command line had a option had to token it individually. | Apr 01 03:58 |
| MinceR | and yet it worked. | Apr 01 03:59 |
| MinceR | unlike lendows. | Apr 01 03:59 |
| oiaohm | In fact over the years many applications had miss tokened it before systemd. | Apr 01 03:59 |
| MinceR | how many applications need to bother with the kernel command line? | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | Just a bug that went not addressed until after systemd. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| MinceR | (hint: cancerd shouldn't have either, as they obviously fucked it up) | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is 200 applications+ known to check the Linux command line for stuff. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| MinceR | that's a "bug" like the UI not working exactly like winblows does | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically a lot more than most would think. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| MinceR | maybe a "bug" to you and poettering, but not to anyone else | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | 3 of those was part of sysvinit | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | and had screwed up as well. | Apr 01 04:00 |
| oiaohm | tokening string errors are annoying common. | Apr 01 04:01 |
| MinceR | not nearly as annoying as a self-appointed emperor trying to force everybody's computer to be remade in his image. | Apr 01 04:01 |
| oiaohm | systemd has triggered a lot of bugs that were just keeping on being ingnored have proper methods provided. | Apr 01 04:02 |
| oiaohm | systemd is not all bad. Really I do wish it had not requried systemd to get a lot of this stuff fixed. | Apr 01 04:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, all hail our savior systemd | Apr 01 04:03 |
| MinceR | put it back into the lab. | Apr 01 04:03 |
| oiaohm | I don't call it our savior. | Apr 01 04:04 |
| oiaohm | I call it something that had to happen. | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | really i do wish it had not required killing off distros by the dozens to find a few bugs | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | no, it didn't | Apr 01 04:04 |
| oiaohm | O yes it did. | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | it happened because ratcrap is driven by fascist megalomaniacs | Apr 01 04:04 |
| MinceR | and there are a lot of idiots in charge of projects like debilian | Apr 01 04:05 |
| oiaohm | Most of the distributions that have died due to systemd were undermaintained and were findable full of CVE errors. | Apr 01 04:05 |
| MinceR | debilian used to be doing well | Apr 01 04:05 |
| oiaohm | debian is still doing well over all. | Apr 01 04:05 |
| MinceR | now it's a wreck with no purpose | Apr 01 04:05 |
| MinceR | no, it's not | Apr 01 04:05 |
| oiaohm | Number of debian users is up since systemd. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | they already did 3 point releases to try to fix what systemd fucked up | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | ah, so now number of users determines which OS is good? | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | go the fuck back to windows. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | and take poettering with you. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | so many people use it it must be fucking perfect. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| MinceR | and hey, it already does things the retarded ratcrap way! | Apr 01 04:06 |
| oiaohm | Also lot of the items debian is having to fix due to systemd also releate to older bugs. | Apr 01 04:06 |
| oiaohm | even the cron one you pulled out. | Apr 01 04:07 |
| MinceR | it even has an automatic mechanism to stuff unrelated services into one process | Apr 01 04:07 |
| MinceR | harry poettering must really admire that | Apr 01 04:07 |
| MinceR | the cron one didn't exist before cgroups | Apr 01 04:08 |
| oiaohm | What do you mean stuff unreleated services into one process. | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svchost.exe | Apr 01 04:08 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: cron one before cgroups would result in lost processes remaining running on the system. | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | which didn't bother anyone | Apr 01 04:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroups just made cron issue in face. | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | unlike that upgrade being aborted and restarted over and over | Apr 01 04:08 |
| MinceR | no, forcing cgroups everywhere and trusting it with things it's not fit for broke cron. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: automatic upgrade failures happened randomally with debian with no located cause due to loss processes. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | assuming that every child process of cron must be killed off to shut cron down. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: before systemd. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | and cgroups. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | well, they went from random to every time | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | great! | Apr 01 04:09 |
| oiaohm | Basically all it did was make that error in face and repeatable. | Apr 01 04:09 |
| MinceR | all hail the hero lennart poettering | Apr 01 04:10 |
| MinceR | is it too much to ask to do this shit on non-production systems? | Apr 01 04:10 |
| oiaohm | Also libvirt users had put in the complain that cron in libvirt was showing the same error before systemd. | Apr 01 04:10 |
| oiaohm | And had been ignored. | Apr 01 04:10 |
| MinceR | that's probably because libvirt was hacked up by the same gaggle of retards at ratcrap | Apr 01 04:10 |
| MinceR | they're approximating m$ personnel quality | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | Yes cgroup triggered cron failure happened before systemd and was not fixed. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | There are a long list of errors like this. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | Something had to change. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| MinceR | yes, something has to change | Apr 01 04:11 |
| MinceR | either it will be that everyone moves to *BSD | Apr 01 04:11 |
| oiaohm | going on sweeping bugs under carpet long term is never good. | Apr 01 04:11 |
| MinceR | or it will be that the people in charge of Linux get their shit together | Apr 01 04:12 |
| MinceR | and stop fucking up everyone's production systems | Apr 01 04:12 |
| MinceR | with idiotic experiments | Apr 01 04:12 |
| oiaohm | Please note those failures that were not fixed were stuffing up production systems randomally with sysvinit. | Apr 01 04:12 |
| oiaohm | So something had to give. | Apr 01 04:13 |
| oiaohm | systemd is basically the straw that broke the back of ingnoring faults. | Apr 01 04:13 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully what comes and replaces systemd will have a nice solid footing to build on due to all the bugs systemd is forcing into the open to be fixed. | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | let's stop pretending that sysvinit produced anywhere near the magnitude of the issues systemd still causes, shall we? | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | no, systemd is basically the disease that's destroying GNU/Linux | Apr 01 04:14 |
| oiaohm | I am not pretending | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | and it's threatening to infect other unixes | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | thanks to retards like jordan hubbard | Apr 01 04:14 |
| oiaohm | Systemd turned a lot of random sysvinit issues into I will always happen issues. | Apr 01 04:14 |
| MinceR | yay! | Apr 01 04:15 |
| MinceR | that can be done a lot cheaper | Apr 01 04:15 |
| MinceR | just yank out the power cord. | Apr 01 04:15 |
| oiaohm | So the number of new issues in fact caused by systemd are quite low. | Apr 01 04:15 |
| MinceR | that's a lie. | Apr 01 04:15 |
| oiaohm | Its not a lie | Apr 01 04:16 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Apr 01 04:16 |
| oiaohm | have you ever cross reference lxc reported bugs before system against systemd bugs and notice that 95 percent are in fact the same faults. | Apr 01 04:16 |
| MinceR | no, i haven't even used LXC | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | so far, i wasn't forced to use LXC | Apr 01 04:17 |
| oiaohm | Basically majority of systemd faults were reported before first line of systemd was written. | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | yay | Apr 01 04:17 |
| oiaohm | and just ignored. | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | they knew ahead of time that cancerd was going to be shit | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | and they still wrote it | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | and they still forced it over almost all major distros | Apr 01 04:17 |
| MinceR | surprise, it really sucks | Apr 01 04:17 |
| oiaohm | Remaining 5 percent mostly line up with issues reported by everyone attempting to use a init system other than sysvinit. | Apr 01 04:18 |
| oiaohm | About 0.5 percent are in fact systemd issues. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| MinceR | another lie | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | No that is not a lie. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | That is the numbers. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | Kinda tells you how bad ignoring faults had got. | Apr 01 04:19 |
| oiaohm | So at some point this was going to break. | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | let's see what systemd people say about the Technology That Will Fix Everything: "cgroup notification is unreliable." | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/743970d2ea6d08aa7c7bff8220f6b7702f2b1db7 | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | if that's not a glowing recommendation, i don't know what is | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | let's go make everything depend on it! | Apr 01 04:20 |
| oiaohm | That is cgroup v1 | Apr 01 04:20 |
| MinceR | production systems first! | Apr 01 04:20 |
| oiaohm | Cgroup v2 does not have that issue. | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | where's cgroup v2? | Apr 01 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | core: one step back again, for nspawn we actually can't wait for cgro… · systemd/systemd@743970d · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/odanl ] | Apr 01 04:21 | |
| oiaohm | And when systemd started lot thought that fault could be worked around. | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | they were sure of it | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | so sure they used political trickery to force other distros to adopt their shit | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | which was banking on a technology which is "unreliable" | Apr 01 04:21 |
| MinceR | great fucking job, people! | Apr 01 04:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do you have a clue what causes that fault. | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | i'd really like to see what percentage of Linux (kernel) developers agree with this cgroup cargo cult | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | yes | Apr 01 04:22 |
| oiaohm | In cgroup | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | people being incompetent and megalomaniacal | Apr 01 04:22 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v1 has a particular design fault. | Apr 01 04:22 |
| MinceR | breaking other people's stuff because they can't imagine themselves making a mistake, ever | Apr 01 04:23 |
| oiaohm | Someone though it was a good idea for a process to have it threads be in different cgroups with cgroup v1 | Apr 01 04:23 |
| oiaohm | Kinda makes killing tricky for some reason. | Apr 01 04:23 |
| MinceR | again, makes me wonder who the hell is in charge of this show | Apr 01 04:23 |
| MinceR | also, why couldn't they tell us all right from the start | Apr 01 04:24 |
| MinceR | "use *BSD instead, we're all retarded" | Apr 01 04:24 |
| oiaohm | Please note this retarded fault predates systemd. | Apr 01 04:24 |
| oiaohm | You know is bad when linus with cgroup v2 allows userspace interfaces to be broken. | Apr 01 04:24 |
| oiaohm | So no cgroup v1 emulation has to be provided. | Apr 01 04:25 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder why are we relying on cgroups on production systems again? | Apr 01 04:25 |
| MinceR | funny thing is, good old GNU/Linux with sysvinit will be unaffected by this v1/v2 incompatibility | Apr 01 04:25 |
| oiaohm | We do need the functionality of cgroups to say x group of processes should only use x ammount of ram io and cpu and so on. | Apr 01 04:26 |
| MinceR | because it doesn't rely on features that aren't fucking done yet! | Apr 01 04:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroups were never going to get done if no one was using and testing them. | Apr 01 04:26 |
| MinceR | do we need that more than a system that is actually usable for something worthwhile? | Apr 01 04:26 |
| MinceR | i'm not ratcrap's beta tester | Apr 01 04:27 |
| MinceR | maybe if they paid me to do it, i'd be willing | Apr 01 04:27 |
| MinceR | probably not. | Apr 01 04:27 |
| oiaohm | Its functionality that needs to work. docker and many other solutions depend on it as well. | Apr 01 04:27 |
| oiaohm | Really if the functionality does not work correctly it should have been taken out kernel in the first place. | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | not my problem. | Apr 01 04:28 |
| oiaohm | cgroups in time will give better desktop behavour. | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | can you, now that the userland (now called "systemd") can't function without it? | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | (never mind that it also can't function with it either, since it's shit) | Apr 01 04:28 |
| MinceR | provided there will be a desktop by the time they're done with it | Apr 01 04:29 |
| oiaohm | ie stuff on users screen in fact getting cpu time stuff in background not linked to the user end up with less time. | Apr 01 04:29 |
| oiaohm | cpu/io miss balance is key to windows and OS X desktop good feel to end users. | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | there's no technology that won't make mandatory gnome3 on mandatory cancerd not suck | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | ever | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | strange, i must not be an end user, then | Apr 01 04:29 |
| MinceR | because winblows and OSuX always felt like torture to me | Apr 01 04:29 |
| oiaohm | Windows 2000 workstation you could turn the miss balance on and off. | Apr 01 04:30 |
| MinceR | i guess this mythical end user enjoys randomly losing focus, the usb stack sucking at its job, text rendering that makes spaces randomly sized, and broken maximize functionality | Apr 01 04:30 |
| MinceR | could you also turn off the random focus losing? | Apr 01 04:30 |
| MinceR | could you also turn off the text rendering being an unusable pain in the eye? | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | microsoft text rendering, at its finest: http://i.imgur.com/lwVtQH6.png | Apr 01 04:31 |
| oiaohm | The miss blance means the active window gets more cpu | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | and on top of this, you can get randomly colored fringes too, with "cleartype" | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | now how much would you pay? | Apr 01 04:31 |
| MinceR | i can tell you it was _not_ fun filling out text results in suXcel when i couldn't tell where the spaces were in the text i entered! | Apr 01 04:32 |
| MinceR | s/text/test/ | Apr 01 04:32 |
| MinceR | active window getting more cpu is a shitty attempt to work around the winblows task scheduler being an unusable pile of junk | Apr 01 04:32 |
| MinceR | it's the typical case of m$ trying to know better than me what i want | Apr 01 04:33 |
| oiaohm | In fact even with a good scheduler if you attempt to be 100 percent fair you end up in cases where you don't have enough cpu to in fact not stall the interface. | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | it's also one of the reasons i couldn't get music playback without stuttering and skipping constantly on winblows 2000 or xp | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | and GNU/Linux could do that reliably back then | Apr 01 04:33 |
| oiaohm | So a scheduler needs the means to be unfair. | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | even without fucking around with priorities | Apr 01 04:33 |
| MinceR | of course, they fucked that up since | Apr 01 04:34 |
| oiaohm | nice in Linux only works 4 years after cgroups are implemented. | Apr 01 04:34 |
| MinceR | it would help to not run tons of bloat in the background | Apr 01 04:34 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it worked back then | Apr 01 04:34 |
| oiaohm | Nice value was not hooked up to anything in the shedulers. | Apr 01 04:34 |
| MinceR | then again, back then the desktop was not a contest of "how could we waste even more resources on even less functionality?" | Apr 01 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people though it worked. | Apr 01 04:35 |
| MinceR | maybe the scheduler wasn't shit back then | Apr 01 04:35 |
| oiaohm | It was an example of the placebo effect. | Apr 01 04:35 |
| MinceR | meanwhile on winblows i had an app which would crash if i gave it too high priority | Apr 01 04:35 |
| MinceR | and it would still not play music continuously in the background | Apr 01 04:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course | Apr 01 04:36 |
| oiaohm | background 1/3 the cpu access time. | Apr 01 04:36 |
| MinceR | says who? | Apr 01 04:36 |
| oiaohm | That is how windows did it. | Apr 01 04:36 |
| MinceR | which is why windows totally sucked at this | Apr 01 04:36 |
| MinceR | just like it still totally sucks at everything | Apr 01 04:36 |
| oiaohm | Windows of course was not providing users with any real controls over it. | Apr 01 04:37 |
| oiaohm | It was either bias on or bias off. | Apr 01 04:37 |
| MinceR | the great exemplar poettering sets for us | Apr 01 04:37 |
| MinceR | no wonder lendows also totally sucks at everything | Apr 01 04:37 |
| oiaohm | Systemd idea is that you can set the priority per service and in time per application. | Apr 01 04:38 |
| MinceR | no wonder cancerd fucks at every single job it takes up | Apr 01 04:38 |
| oiaohm | to get the system to behave the way you want. | Apr 01 04:38 |
| MinceR | s/fu/su/ | Apr 01 04:38 |
| oiaohm | GUI studies around windows tells us lots of things. Displaying stuff that user can see that action is happening user will wait 20 times longer happily. | Apr 01 04:39 |
| MinceR | ooh, i love studies | Apr 01 04:39 |
| MinceR | like the one crApple did with what must have been people born without brains | Apr 01 04:39 |
| oiaohm | User will think system is fast if the part they are interface with/hearing is functioning right. | Apr 01 04:40 |
| MinceR | who couldn't tell the difference between their fingers | Apr 01 04:40 |
| MinceR | so they had to look to find out which button they're pressing on the mouse | Apr 01 04:40 |
| oiaohm | Apple GUI design is based of giving a 5 year old children a computer without instructions and them being able to use it. | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | thing is, what the user is hearing does not necessarily come from the window that has focus | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | has this occurred to any of the idiots at m$ and crApple? | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | use it, for what? | Apr 01 04:41 |
| MinceR | what are the information processing needs of a 5 year old child? | Apr 01 04:41 |
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| MinceR | this is what IT turned into | Apr 01 04:42 |
| MinceR | professionals being forced to use toys designed for 5 year old retarded children | Apr 01 04:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all I did was state what there model is. I did not say I agree with. | Apr 01 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Not retarted children. | Apr 01 04:42 |
| MinceR | it should be pretty obvious by now that their model is the exact opposite of anything that would make sense | Apr 01 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Basically being treated like a 5 year old child | Apr 01 04:42 |
| MinceR | they've managed to fuck up perfectly | Apr 01 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Made sence when Apple was attempt to get into schools | Apr 01 04:44 |
| MinceR | so why do i get alleged adults push crApple's toys for me to use? | Apr 01 04:44 |
| oiaohm | The fact apple has not revisited and extend model causes a very be problem. | Apr 01 04:44 |
| MinceR | what sense does that make? | Apr 01 04:44 |
| oiaohm | The problem with interface design models is most of them make sense to particular markets. | Apr 01 04:46 |
| MinceR | also, why do tools built for adults to work with have to be warped into an imitation of what crApple designed for 5 year old children? | Apr 01 04:46 |
| oiaohm | 5 year old child model makes sense when you are attempt to sell entry level computers. | Apr 01 04:46 |
| oiaohm | as a person first computer. | Apr 01 04:46 |
| MinceR | again, what are the information processing needs of a 5 year old child? | Apr 01 04:46 |
| oiaohm | Quite a lot when you think the kids they were using were in early prep school and in fact learning to read already. | Apr 01 04:47 |
| oiaohm | They did not choose your adverage 5 year old child either. | Apr 01 04:48 |
| MinceR | at what age will they learn to tell their index finger from their middle finger? | Apr 01 04:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hand mechanics with multi dexterity 6-7 | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | so, does crApple have a mouse designed for 7 year old children too? | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | or are they expected to use the one designed for 5 year olds until they die? | Apr 01 04:51 |
| oiaohm | They model on 5 year old so it a single button. | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | i know | Apr 01 04:51 |
| MinceR | problem is, most computer users are a bit older than that | Apr 01 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Multi button is if you design for 7-8 | Apr 01 04:52 |
| MinceR | but try to make the average m$/crApple/ratcrap cultist understand that | Apr 01 04:52 |
| oiaohm | 6-7 is when multi dexterity starts not in fact having lots of strength at doing it. | Apr 01 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Apple computers do in fact support multi button mice just apple does not sell any. | Apr 01 04:53 |
| oiaohm | Mostly because apple thinks it would be too confusing to explain this age stuff in shops. | Apr 01 04:53 |
| MinceR | and the GUI (which is allegedly the selling point of their atrocious OS-es) doesn't support more | Apr 01 04:54 |
| MinceR | remember, gnome is copying that GUI now, and kde is copying whatever gnome is doing | Apr 01 04:54 |
| MinceR | yeah, being able to tell one's index finger from one's middle finger is confusing | Apr 01 04:54 |
| MinceR | i'm quite happy to show them which the middle finger is, though | Apr 01 04:55 |
| oiaohm | For a 5 year old with the ways the tendons in hand are its kinda hard to move those fingers allown. | Apr 01 04:55 |
| oiaohm | As we get older we forget that as our hands grew particular problems went away. | Apr 01 04:55 |
| oiaohm | So for young children we really do need like the apple interface. | Apr 01 04:56 |
| oiaohm | Ie single button mouse. | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | i propose we also adapt the keyboard to accommodate for this issue | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | 1-button keyboard | Apr 01 04:56 |
| oiaohm | As we get older multi button mouse comes useable. | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | we could call it the "DERP" key | Apr 01 04:56 |
| MinceR | not that the typical targeted user could read the label, of course | Apr 01 04:57 |
| oiaohm | A button on the apple keyboard is used for the second mouse button in fact. | Apr 01 04:57 |
| oiaohm | So 2 hand operation. | Apr 01 04:57 |
| MinceR | whoop de do | Apr 01 04:57 |
| oiaohm | So the apple interface for under 7 makes design sense. | Apr 01 04:58 |
| oiaohm | us over 7 no so much. | Apr 01 04:58 |
| MinceR | so, how can i convince crApple cultists that the stuff they advertise all day and all night is for children under the age of 7? | Apr 01 04:58 |
| oiaohm | I don't know. | Apr 01 04:59 |
| oiaohm | I have even put the steven jobs research data on it in front of them and it does not work. | Apr 01 04:59 |
| MinceR | and how can i stop poettering from shitting into systems used by people over the age of 7? | Apr 01 04:59 |
| oiaohm | Before poettering systems were in a mess. Work to clean up and fix alsa and dbus come from the messes he has caused. | Apr 01 05:00 |
| MinceR | wrong | Apr 01 05:01 |
| MinceR | before poettering, we had working unixes | Apr 01 05:01 |
| oiaohm | Not wrong. | Apr 01 05:01 |
| MinceR | now we have a huge train wreck. | Apr 01 05:01 |
| oiaohm | Train started going off rails before poettering got mixed up with Linux. | Apr 01 05:01 |
| MinceR | and he put nitro on | Apr 01 05:02 |
| oiaohm | The question is what will be the fastest way back on to the rails properly. | Apr 01 05:02 |
| MinceR | we kick out all the retards and start over? | Apr 01 05:02 |
| oiaohm | Maybe to get some of the retards out we need poettering to do more. | Apr 01 05:02 |
| MinceR | what will we use in the meantime? | Apr 01 05:03 |
| oiaohm | Like without systemd cgroup v1 would be still going forwards becoming a bigger and bigger mess. | Apr 01 05:03 |
| MinceR | System V? | Apr 01 05:03 |
| MinceR | an abacus? | Apr 01 05:03 |
| MinceR | no, without systemd we wouldn't be using cgroups except for testing and experiments | Apr 01 05:04 |
| oiaohm | and still having IO memory.... and stack of other issues. cgroup was started to address a very particular set of problems then extend in bad directions. | Apr 01 05:04 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 is return to core objectives and stick only to core objectives to fix the set of problems. | Apr 01 05:05 |
| MinceR | i still don't see how this required turning 9 out of 11 distributions into wreckage | Apr 01 05:06 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_reception | Apr 01 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | systemd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 01 05:06 | |
| oiaohm | Please note gentoo with openrc was having nightmares with items not working correctly in cgroups as well. | Apr 01 05:09 |
| MinceR | iirc openrc works fine without cgroups | Apr 01 05:10 |
| oiaohm | That is the issue. | Apr 01 05:10 |
| MinceR | no, that's a non-issue | Apr 01 05:10 |
| MinceR | it's the opposite of an issue | Apr 01 05:10 |
| oiaohm | since openrc would work find without cgroups when ever openrc had a issue from cgroups upstream projects just said run without cgroups and did not address problem. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | the issue is cancerd requiring cgroups despite its own developers being aware of cgroups being unreliable. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | yeah, production systems that work are such a bummer | Apr 01 05:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd is basically a sledge hammer. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | some people just want to watch the world burn. | Apr 01 05:11 |
| MinceR | who needs a sledge hammer in the data center? | Apr 01 05:11 |
| oiaohm | When you are trying to get the most work load per system does end up using cgroups. | Apr 01 05:12 |
| oiaohm | That is where docker and other horibles come from depending on cgroups. | Apr 01 05:12 |
| MinceR | workload or just useless load from cancerd? | Apr 01 05:12 |
| MinceR | like this: http://blind.guru/daemon-cpu.html | Apr 01 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blind.guru | I am sorry, but this looks insane | Apr 01 05:13 | |
| MinceR | ("why do you hate blind people?") | Apr 01 05:13 |
| oiaohm | datacentres were using cgroups with sysvinit using lxc and other thigns before systemd and openrc | Apr 01 05:13 |
| MinceR | were they forced to rely on unreliable cgroups and unfinished lxc? | Apr 01 05:14 |
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| MinceR | even if i wanted to use a pc for heating, there's the windows i was forced to buy along with it | Apr 01 05:15 |
| MinceR | there's no need for ratcrap to develop such things | Apr 01 05:15 |
| MinceR | s/for heating/purely &/ | Apr 01 05:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically the were forced attempt to get max load per machine to be using unreliable cgroups and unfinished Lxc and having their bugs ignored. | Apr 01 05:16 |
| MinceR | and this is their revenge? | Apr 01 05:16 |
| oiaohm | Yes systemd is basically their revenge. | Apr 01 05:16 |
| MinceR | what did i do to offend them? | Apr 01 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Mostly by saying cgroups was not important when to them it critical so causing there bugs to go back burner all the time. | Apr 01 05:18 |
| oiaohm | packagekitd is in fact annoying one this is running a graphical application checking if system is upto date causes that to run in background all the time. | Apr 01 05:18 |
| MinceR | i didn't say anything about cgroups back then | Apr 01 05:19 |
| MinceR | so why did they have to destroy the distro i used to rely on? | Apr 01 05:19 |
| oiaohm | They rely on lot of the same distributions you use. | Apr 01 05:19 |
| oiaohm | And they want them fixed. | Apr 01 05:19 |
| oiaohm | Worse those data centers pay the wages of a lot of the maintainers. | Apr 01 05:20 |
| oiaohm | So if it was not systemd it was going to be something. | Apr 01 05:21 |
| MinceR | i don't see how forcing these distros to turn into winblows imitations helps fix anything | Apr 01 05:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd as I have told you is more like solaris and windows. | Apr 01 05:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the data centre guys love solaris for the way it works. | Apr 01 05:22 |
| MinceR | when did they get their lobotomy? | Apr 01 05:22 |
| MinceR | or were they born without a brain? | Apr 01 05:22 |
| oiaohm | For getting high utilisation solaris is in fact good. Windows in fact is bad. | Apr 01 05:23 |
| oiaohm | So there are key differences in systemd that make it closer to solaris than Windows. | Apr 01 05:23 |
| MinceR | i'm sure windows can make the cpu spin at 100% too | Apr 01 05:24 |
| MinceR | especially if it invites some of its malware friends in | Apr 01 05:24 |
| oiaohm | The ablity to share between services cpu /io time using zones is what zolaris has. | Apr 01 05:24 |
| oiaohm | cgroups in systemd is about replicating that. | Apr 01 05:24 |
| MinceR | are zones broken too? | Apr 01 05:24 |
| oiaohm | zones in fact are closer to cgroup v2 and function correctly. | Apr 01 05:25 |
| MinceR | then they haven't done a good job replicating them, have they? | Apr 01 05:25 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v1 you would call a drunk copy of zones. | Apr 01 05:25 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 somewhere near sober copy of zones. | Apr 01 05:26 |
| MinceR | does slowlaris ship with a GUI that has client-side decorations too? | Apr 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | It has at different times. | Apr 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | solaris was first to include kernel mode setting. | Apr 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Even before Windows had it. | Apr 01 05:28 |
| MinceR | i'm glad i'm not running slowlaris | Apr 01 05:28 |
| oiaohm | solaris was also first to include patching kernel while running. | Apr 01 05:28 |
| oiaohm | So solaris was known for monster uptimes while away been upto date. | Apr 01 05:29 |
| oiaohm | away/always | Apr 01 05:29 |
| oiaohm | So there are quite a few good things we can copy from solaris. | Apr 01 05:29 |
| MinceR | and yet we insist on copying the bad things | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly. | Apr 01 05:30 |
| MinceR | makes me thinking we're copying windows after all | Apr 01 05:30 |
| MinceR | since there are no good things in windows | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | attempt to copy zones is a good idea. | Apr 01 05:30 |
| MinceR | that way it's no wonder we're only getting broken shit | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | the copy being broken design not such a good idea. | Apr 01 05:30 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the ideas of systemd is the right ones. Just implementation kernel and userspace side highly lacking. | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | like implementing everything in a huge unmaintainable hairball | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | or like forcing binary logging with an iron fist | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | so fucking great | Apr 01 05:31 |
| MinceR | and then there's the rest of lendows | Apr 01 05:32 |
| MinceR | kdbus, gnome3, networkmanager, udisks, ... | Apr 01 05:32 |
| oiaohm | networkmanager is redhat but systemd lead making networkd is because he does not exactly trust the design of that. | Apr 01 05:33 |
| MinceR | i'm sure it's about as unreliable | Apr 01 05:34 |
| MinceR | but this time the user doesn't get a choice | Apr 01 05:34 |
| oiaohm | dbus something has to happen to that. Existence is because Linux and most Unix systems lack a kernel based equal to a com system. | Apr 01 05:34 |
| MinceR | and which other company is known for not giving users a choice? | Apr 01 05:34 |
| MinceR | why does it have to be kernel-based? | Apr 01 05:35 |
| oiaohm | If it a kernel based IPC time slice stealing can be done. | Apr 01 05:35 |
| MinceR | so what? | Apr 01 05:35 |
| oiaohm | do you know what time slice stealing it. | Apr 01 05:36 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 01 05:36 |
| MinceR | it's relevant when you're implementing syscalls in servers and call them via IPC | Apr 01 05:36 |
| MinceR | but IPC doesn't have to be RPC | Apr 01 05:36 |
| oiaohm | So you do a dbus call at monent this has to trigger dbus service to fire up to route on. | Apr 01 05:37 |
| oiaohm | The current IPC in Linux only allows a time slice steal once. | Apr 01 05:37 |
| oiaohm | So you get to dbus service then cannot pass steal onto the part processing applications request. | Apr 01 05:37 |
| oiaohm | So dbus cannot work effectively with current kernel IPC offerings. | Apr 01 05:38 |
| oiaohm | Basically dbus needs a replacement/modification. | Apr 01 05:39 |
| MinceR | dbus has worse issues | Apr 01 05:39 |
| MinceR | like this windows-like obsession with rebooting | Apr 01 05:39 |
| MinceR | slowlaris didn't have that, did it? | Apr 01 05:39 |
| oiaohm | solaris for SMF added a multi connect IPC to kernel. | Apr 01 05:40 |
| oiaohm | Reason why SMF cannot be ported to Linux. | Apr 01 05:40 |
| MinceR | SMF also eventually put everything and the kitchensink in pid1, didn't it? | Apr 01 05:40 |
| MinceR | maybe not cancerd levels, but at least launchd levels | Apr 01 05:41 |
| oiaohm | SMF did at first then undid it. | Apr 01 05:41 |
| oiaohm | also undid it after they had bus system in kernel. | Apr 01 05:41 |
| oiaohm | The ablity to restart most of the dbus system if it follows SMF will come from being able to record in kernel that it meant to be connected. | Apr 01 05:42 |
| oiaohm | it being the sub applications. | Apr 01 05:42 |
| MinceR | why can't you time slice stealing with user-mode IPC? what's the harm in letting a process give up the rest of its time slice and hand it over to another process? | Apr 01 05:42 |
| MinceR | unless we have a process spawning children that give up their slices to the original process all the time | Apr 01 05:43 |
| oiaohm | Problem is the posix defined IPC only allow it jump once. | Apr 01 05:43 |
| MinceR | not sure how that's worse than just having the child processes hog the cpu, though | Apr 01 05:43 |
| oiaohm | From your process to dbus that is the end. | Apr 01 05:43 |
| MinceR | why can't dbus do it to the next process? | Apr 01 05:44 |
| oiaohm | when the dbus service sends message on to what should be processing you cannot jump again. | Apr 01 05:44 |
| MinceR | (with the rest of my process's slice, i guess) | Apr 01 05:44 |
| oiaohm | posix define IPC says if you attempt to steal again this triggers end of process slice and next process is started in the sheduler list of processes. | Apr 01 05:44 |
| oiaohm | This causes dbus to horiblely stall a lot. | Apr 01 05:45 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 01 05:45 |
| MinceR | could work with a simple extension | Apr 01 05:45 |
| MinceR | no need to bloat the kernel for this | Apr 01 05:45 |
| oiaohm | also dbus support multi casing of messages. | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | mixed with unicasting. | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | basically it does not properly match any of the existing IPC either. | Apr 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | reason why they tried kdbus and now are doing bus1. | Apr 01 05:47 |
| MinceR | why don't they just use 9P? | Apr 01 05:47 |
| oiaohm | Only 9p in Linux kernel is https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/9p.txt yes the file system. 9p message bus system would be almost a perfect match for what dbus needs but Linux kernel does not have that. | Apr 01 05:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: A key type of IPC is not kernel provided in Linux. | Apr 01 05:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 01 05:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder what plan9port uses for IPC | Apr 01 05:50 |
| MinceR | probably a userspace daemon | Apr 01 05:50 |
| oiaohm | and that will have all the same trouble dbus has. | Apr 01 05:50 |
| oiaohm | This is why we have need something like systemd pushing these sections so hopefully one day they get properly fixed. | Apr 01 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Basically if no systemd we need something else to cause equal size mess. | Apr 01 05:52 |
| MinceR | if there will be anyone left to use the result | Apr 01 05:52 |
| MinceR | cancerd is breaking applications, taking over stuff unrelated to cgroups and making users move to *BSD more than contributing to anything getting fixed | Apr 01 05:52 |
| oiaohm | If these issues were not fixed also risked not having anyone left would have remained. | Apr 01 05:53 |
| MinceR | (and of course that's all assuming we'll even be allowed to boot an OS of our choice in the future) | Apr 01 05:53 |
| oiaohm | People were looking at BSD stuff for stablity before systemd as well. | Apr 01 05:53 |
| MinceR | where would have they gone then? | Apr 01 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically outcome would not have been much different just being slower. | Apr 01 05:54 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Apr 01 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Now if the issues get fixed system will be better. | Apr 01 05:54 |
| MinceR | and again, cancerd taking over stuff that has nothing to do with process management was not required either way | Apr 01 05:54 |
| MinceR | only if cancerd is not mandatory in that "fixed" system | Apr 01 05:55 |
| oiaohm | I don't see systemd ending up mandatory in the end. | Apr 01 05:55 |
| oiaohm | Like the fixes to cgroupv2 allows applications to use syscalls instead of using systemd interfaces to control cgroups even when contained. | Apr 01 05:56 |
| oiaohm | Same interfaces inside docker container or systemd or any other cgroup/namespace solution. | Apr 01 05:56 |
| MinceR | that won't remove systemd-dependent APIs everywhere | Apr 01 05:56 |
| MinceR | like this timedated and hostnamed bullshit | Apr 01 05:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterHostname hostnamed comes from this. | Apr 01 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Features/BetterHostname - FedoraProject | Apr 01 06:01 | |
| MinceR | i don't care where it comes from, it has to die | Apr 01 06:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please remember hostname is settable by dhcpd | Apr 01 06:02 |
| MinceR | shitty APIs made up by fascist megalomaniacs for political reasons belong in winblows, not unix. | Apr 01 06:02 |
| oiaohm | there are reasons why userspace needs to be able to look up hostname stored in memory not that written on disc. | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | if only we had a command that did that | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | we could call it 'hostname' | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | oh look, it exists | Apr 01 06:03 |
| MinceR | that's the unix way | Apr 01 06:04 |
| MinceR | not adding an interface in a shitty IPC daemon that came from our nightmares | Apr 01 06:04 |
| oiaohm | hostname command does not cover the multi naming network standard has allowed. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | standards have allowed. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| MinceR | what would that be? | Apr 01 06:05 |
| MinceR | multiple hostnames for a single host? | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes multi hostnames for a single host is in fact legal. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| MinceR | or a hostname that's actually a h.264 video with sound? | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | by network standards. | Apr 01 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Assigned multi ways. | Apr 01 06:06 |
| MinceR | i doubt there's any unix program that's designed to handle multiple hostnames as the name of the computer | Apr 01 06:06 |
| oiaohm | https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed/ | Apr 01 06:06 |
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| MinceR | DNS is irrelevant for this purpose | Apr 01 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Its in the documentation. | Apr 01 06:06 |
| MinceR | of course it's in the "documentation" poettering wrote | Apr 01 06:06 |
| MinceR | one machine calling itself several names is still stupid | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | No poettering did not write this. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Hostname what is dhcp set name. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| MinceR | what are you going to put in a filename to disambiguate hosts? | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | StaticHostname what you set in /etc/hostname or what ever you like locally restricted in chars. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| MinceR | i'm not really sold on having dhcp change my hostname either. | Apr 01 06:07 |
| MinceR | so, that's the hostname | Apr 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Then you have PrettyHostname that is allowed to use full unicode chars. | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | let's stop calling things that are not hostnames "the hostname" | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | why the fuck? | Apr 01 06:08 |
| oiaohm | These are all things standards call hostname | Apr 01 06:08 |
| oiaohm | networking standard bodys need to be shot. | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | do i want to use a hex dump to find out which of the two hostnames i see has the cyrillic o and which has the latin o? | Apr 01 06:08 |
| MinceR | do i want to use a hex dump to find out if there are invisible characters in the name of my computer? | Apr 01 06:09 |
| oiaohm | That is what is written into the standards. | Apr 01 06:09 |
| MinceR | just so some idiot can put an accented character in his "PrettyHostname"? | Apr 01 06:09 |
| MinceR | what is this, My Little Pony? | Apr 01 06:09 |
| MinceR | we should stop letting people on drugs write "standards" | Apr 01 06:10 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed/hostname1 is basically created because insane people wrote standards. | Apr 01 06:10 |
| MinceR | and why do gnome and kde depend on it? | Apr 01 06:10 |
| MinceR | because insane people also design DEs? | Apr 01 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Because at times you need to send your PrettyHostname or you will not get answer. | Apr 01 06:11 |
| MinceR | the whole reason we have an OS standard that is actually usable is that some people realized you shouldn't put everything you could possibly conceive into the design, but make it minimal | Apr 01 06:12 |
| oiaohm | Like windows proxies. | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | and now we get this bullshit | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | 1. windows proxies need to die in a fire | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | 2. then whatever is talking to the windows proxies should deal with their madness | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | not hostname | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | not the DE | Apr 01 06:12 |
| oiaohm | IconName and Chassis values as well. | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | and especially not every single application that ever runs on the machine | Apr 01 06:12 |
| MinceR | protocols that use PrettyName, IconName and Chassis to identify a host should not be used, ever | Apr 01 06:13 |
| oiaohm | at times you have to send the hostname the dhcpd server sent to your as well. | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | they should be locked up with the deranged idiots that came up with them | Apr 01 06:13 |
| oiaohm | So you need at least 2 hostnames | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | that's what the dhcp client daemon does | Apr 01 06:13 |
| MinceR | the dhcp client daemon does not need to ask some random service "gee, what name did the dhcp server said i had?" | Apr 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | What if you have more than 1 network card talking to more than 1 dhcpd server. | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | then i have more than 1 dhcp client daemons running, most likely | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | one for each card | Apr 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | hostname1 protocol is not fully complete really. | Apr 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | But its a good start. | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | well, i can see how it could not be fully complete | Apr 01 06:14 |
| MinceR | because there are these maniac idiots running free coming up with pointless extensions | Apr 01 06:15 |
| MinceR | have all the insane asylums been shut down? | Apr 01 06:15 |
| oiaohm | dynamic dns created a lot of this as well. | Apr 01 06:15 |
| MinceR | wow, this industry is full of shit | Apr 01 06:15 |
| MinceR | see, this is why only unix variants can be used to get anything done whatsoever | Apr 01 06:16 |
| MinceR | because everything else is designed on the principle of "what pointless bullshit could i tack on this that it does not yet have?" | Apr 01 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Unix variants have historically include means to talk pointless bullshit when required. | Apr 01 06:17 |
| MinceR | they can't come up with a sane kernel design yet they're already plotting how many names, colors, sounds and scents will have to be used to identify the host it's running on! | Apr 01 06:17 |
| MinceR | oh, forgot "tastes" | Apr 01 06:17 |
| MinceR | you would otherwise confuse these two computers here because i can't come up with 2 different names! | Apr 01 06:18 |
| MinceR | the point is, it should not ever be required | Apr 01 06:18 |
| oiaohm | dhcpd hostname setting comes from the fact users will connect two computers of exactly the same name. | Apr 01 06:18 |
| MinceR | people who come up with this shit are a threat to themselves and to everyone else | Apr 01 06:18 |
| MinceR | and the dhcp server can't remember their hardware addresses? | Apr 01 06:19 |
| MinceR | those are unique, you know... | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | protocols don't use hardware addresses | Apr 01 06:19 |
| MinceR | oh really | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Most don't. | Apr 01 06:19 |
| MinceR | when did ethernet become broadcast-only? | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Like smb is using a name to find hardware addresses. | Apr 01 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Same with many others. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| MinceR | smb is broken, pointless bullshit that should not ever be used | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | dns name set value. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | mdns name. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| MinceR | mdns should also burn in hell. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | list goes on and on the ways we use hostnames to find way around. | Apr 01 06:20 |
| oiaohm | Yep mdns is where pretty and iconname and chassis comes from. | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | so now we pretend that the automatically generated garbage the dhcp server handed to us because we couldn't be bothered to give our host a unique name is a "name"? | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | one that we'll remember and use? | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, fuck mdns in hell. | Apr 01 06:21 |
| MinceR | along with avahi | Apr 01 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Funny at one business I found 10 laptops with the hostname laptop | Apr 01 06:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, well, allegedly-adult humans should stop being retarded | Apr 01 06:22 |
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| oiaohm | You know you are working on a adult network when everything is named after sex toys. Yes unique names but boy you don't want to have to say them over the phone. | Apr 01 06:23 |
| MinceR | actually that's fine | Apr 01 06:24 |
| MinceR | unique names that are not a pain to remember or communicate | Apr 01 06:24 |
| MinceR | unlike the supposedly unicode line noise mdns uses | Apr 01 06:24 |
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| MinceR | or the arbitrarily large set of names hostname* keeps in mind, which it acquired from nobody knows where | Apr 01 06:25 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed thing is basically not a systemd caused problem. | Apr 01 06:25 |
| MinceR | because you must be able to list the titles and names of a "modern" system for at least a day long | Apr 01 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Its the insane guys written standards requiring stuff written to cope with it. | Apr 01 06:25 |
| MinceR | that's no reason to put it everywhere | Apr 01 06:25 |
| MinceR | put it in its own daemon, keeperofnamesforsystemsdesignedbyretardedimbecilesd | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | have it not depend on what has pid1 | Apr 01 06:26 |
| oiaohm | basically that is what hostnamed is. | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | have it an _optional_ dependency at most for DEs | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | no, that's not what systemd-hostnamed is | Apr 01 06:26 |
| oiaohm | hostnamed only dependancy is dbus. | Apr 01 06:26 |
| MinceR | have it some sane API (not dbus) | Apr 01 06:26 |
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| MinceR | and let it remember what the dhcp server said my computer smelled like. | Apr 01 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Basically hostnamed your biggest issue is dbus | Apr 01 06:27 |
| MinceR | maybe i would have more issues if i cared to know it better | Apr 01 06:27 |
| MinceR | but i don't want to | Apr 01 06:27 |
| MinceR | i don't even use mdns, i don't allow avahi to even run | Apr 01 06:28 |
| oiaohm | timedated starts off out side systemd as well. | Apr 01 06:29 |
| MinceR | because points in time also have multiple names? | Apr 01 06:29 |
| oiaohm | Mostly about allowing graphical to alter time and date without having user sudo and the like. | Apr 01 06:29 |
| MinceR | what if i don't need a GUI to set my clock? | Apr 01 06:29 |
| MinceR | because i'm not retarded? | Apr 01 06:30 |
| oiaohm | timedated and hostnamed both should techically only be run on demard by dbus. | Apr 01 06:30 |
| MinceR | as for "without having user sudo and the like", fuck polkit in hell | Apr 01 06:30 |
| MinceR | along with its stupid built-in javascript interpreter. | Apr 01 06:30 |
| oiaohm | built in javascript what are you refering to. | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | polkit | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | also known as policykit | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | also known as "when did i ask for this gaping security hole to exist on my server?" | Apr 01 06:31 |
| MinceR | because sudo was too easy to manager | Apr 01 06:32 |
| MinceR | s/r$// | Apr 01 06:33 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2016/03/31/the-woman-punisher-donald-trumps-new-movie | Apr 01 06:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I had forgot that evil because I normally don't want to think about it. Javascript in polkit was an attempt to include the complexity of selinux without being too much of a nightmare. | Apr 01 06:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's an excuse for everything | Apr 01 06:36 |
| MinceR | also, implying that the complexity of selinux was a good thing | Apr 01 06:36 |
| MinceR | these guys really do worship "Beautiful Complexity", don't they? | Apr 01 06:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really I wish it would go away replaced by cython | Apr 01 06:37 |
| oiaohm | Basically write rules complie into dll and be done. | Apr 01 06:37 |
| oiaohm | Not like polkit really need an interpeter. | Apr 01 06:37 |
| MinceR | i like the openbsd approach better | Apr 01 06:38 |
| oiaohm | And that is. | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | instead of making up a huge ruleset about what our programs are allowed to do, remove the crap that does things that shouldn't be done in the first place | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | much simpler -> lot fewer opportunities for bugs | Apr 01 06:38 |
| MinceR | iirc there were even exploits made possible by MAC systems already | Apr 01 06:39 |
| oiaohm | With polkit allowing for user actions to be time limited and other things requires some complexity. | Apr 01 06:39 |
| MinceR | did i ever ask for user actions to be time limited? | Apr 01 06:39 |
| oiaohm | Its covering every case. | Apr 01 06:40 |
| oiaohm | covering every case simple solution is built a block. | Apr 01 06:40 |
| MinceR | it's 2016, almost everyone walks around with a computer in their pocket, can we please stop pretending that multiseat desktops and giving users time slots are important use cases? | Apr 01 06:40 |
| MinceR | we had such an era and somehow we survived without polkit | Apr 01 06:40 |
| oiaohm | Business still like termianl services for critical records. | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | let's stop breaking the systems of today for the needs of the last decade! | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | yes, and which of those uses polkit? | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | (hint: polkit didn't even exist when those were implemented and first used) | Apr 01 06:41 |
| oiaohm | computer in pocket does not mean you want to tranfer key business files to it. So you use it as a thin client to see those documents. | Apr 01 06:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'll use the laptop for that | Apr 01 06:42 |
| MinceR | at least until i get a DragonBox Pyra | Apr 01 06:42 |
| MinceR | and that has nothing to do with the size of the device | Apr 01 06:42 |
| oiaohm | Again laptop may only be sent image of document not the document if it form of secure. | Apr 01 06:42 |
| MinceR | and everything to do with the way they completely fucked up mobile devices | Apr 01 06:42 |
| oiaohm | So there is still a thin-client usage case. | Apr 01 06:42 |
| oiaohm | and that usage case is not going away. | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure my laptop is more secure than any winblows or lendows machine | Apr 01 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Business have a lot of stolen laptops. | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | mainly because it doesn't run every bit of bullshit some idiot thought could come in handy someday | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | no laptop in my trust was ever stolen | Apr 01 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Or stupidly lost. | Apr 01 06:43 |
| MinceR | also, there's such a thing as "full disk encryption" | Apr 01 06:43 |
| oiaohm | full disk encryption does not help you if it stolen unlocked. | Apr 01 06:44 |
| MinceR | they'd have to rob me to get it from me unlocked | Apr 01 06:44 |
| oiaohm | As I say there is a usage case for thin-clients and its never going to disappear. | Apr 01 06:44 |
| oiaohm | Now can for usage cases that are not thin-clients could it be made better I would absolutely agree. | Apr 01 06:45 |
| MinceR | yes there is | Apr 01 06:45 |
| MinceR | but the clients still need to be secure | Apr 01 06:45 |
| MinceR | also, if a business can afford all its employees use laptops, then it can also afford all its employees use thin clients | Apr 01 06:46 |
| MinceR | for example, the laptops themselves | Apr 01 06:46 |
| oiaohm | multi user per server remains while thin-client usage remains. | Apr 01 06:46 |
| MinceR | and if every user has their own thin client device, there's no need to fuck around with time slots and multihead desktops | Apr 01 06:46 |
| MinceR | servers can handle the load | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | easily | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | and if they can't, the solution is not "let's restrict when our employees are allowed to do actual work during their work hours!" | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | because that would be catastrophically stupid | Apr 01 06:47 |
| MinceR | also, in that case, none of the multiseat issues apply | Apr 01 06:48 |
| oiaohm | time locking some things on polkit makes sense in a multiseat. So you don't want someone doing a server reboot without approve in middle of work hours. | Apr 01 06:49 |
| MinceR | i don't want anyone who's not a sysadmin doing a server reboot, period | Apr 01 06:49 |
| MinceR | sysadmins are expected to have root access and to know when work hours are | Apr 01 06:49 |
| oiaohm | reboot was only one example. | Apr 01 06:50 |
| oiaohm | But there are many more and it why polkit was given so much flex. | Apr 01 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Using a JIT for the flex I really don't agree with. | Apr 01 06:50 |
| MinceR | multiseat does not apply because no ordinary users are allowed even near the console of the servers; and they all have one machine the console of which is assigned to them at all times | Apr 01 06:51 |
| oiaohm | Not like you should be changing the polkit rules every 5 mins. | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | yes, there are always excuses | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | forcing polkit on everyone who has no such needs, on the other hand, is inexcusable | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | the same thing applies for the rest of the lendows components | Apr 01 06:51 |
| MinceR | like logind | Apr 01 06:51 |
| oiaohm | polkit with dbus is also about reduce amount of code with running privilage. | Apr 01 06:52 |
| oiaohm | logind is about stopping every DE on Linux having it own individual session management server that is incompadible with each other. | Apr 01 06:52 |
| MinceR | i'm not seeing that | Apr 01 06:52 |
| MinceR | polkit is running as root | Apr 01 06:52 |
| MinceR | they wanted dbus to run not merely as root, but in fucking ring 0 | Apr 01 06:53 |
| oiaohm | If you read polkit you documentation will see that distributions have screwed it up. | Apr 01 06:53 |
| MinceR | no, logind is about making every DE on Linux require systemd | Apr 01 06:53 |
| oiaohm | polkit is in fact coded not to need privilage. | Apr 01 06:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is meant to be a polkit user | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | looks like the amount of code is being increased | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | and the privilege code runs with is also being increased | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | this is the opposite of what should be happening | Apr 01 06:54 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: tell debian maintainers that. | Apr 01 06:54 |
| oiaohm | Remember what I said about Linux being full of ignored bugs. | Apr 01 06:55 |
| oiaohm | If polkit and dbus are working correctly the amount of high privilage code should be reduced. | Apr 01 06:56 |
| oiaohm | even logind design is was about reducing that. | Apr 01 06:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is a long way to go to get Linux clean and secure as the design of it parts allow. | Apr 01 06:57 |
| MinceR | and it's going in the other direction | Apr 01 06:57 |
| oiaohm | In places yes. | Apr 01 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Fixing up namespaces and cgroups is going in kind of a correct direction. | Apr 01 06:58 |
| MinceR | systemd is not, though | Apr 01 06:58 |
| MinceR | and neither is kdbus | Apr 01 06:58 |
| oiaohm | kdbus is dead. | Apr 01 06:58 |
| MinceR | and if bus1 ends up "we try kdbus again and see if anyone notices", then neither is that | Apr 01 06:58 |
| oiaohm | systemd wrapping services in namespace and cgroups to provide highest default secuirty level without LSM active is a path in the correct direction. | Apr 01 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Of course what ever init system replaces systemd you would want it to keep that. | Apr 01 07:00 |
| MinceR | except for the huge hairball that's never been fully audited but is changing quickly, running as root | Apr 01 07:00 |
| MinceR | and part of it in a way that if it crashes, it may well take the rest of the system down with itself | Apr 01 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Note I said sections are going in the right direction. | Apr 01 07:01 |
| oiaohm | Not that everything is. | Apr 01 07:01 |
| MinceR | the users who are switching to openbsd? :> | Apr 01 07:01 |
| oiaohm | More presure to audit Linux properly when they do. | Apr 01 07:01 |
| MinceR | audit would be much easier if we didn't have these enormous hairballs trying to do everything | Apr 01 07:02 |
| oiaohm | The stuff that did systemd job before systemd was not properly audited either. | Apr 01 07:02 |
| MinceR | but it would have been much easier to audit | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | as it was far smaller | Apr 01 07:03 |
| oiaohm | The one thing about openbsd has been the mandatory audit process. | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | and tried to do a lot less | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | and you can see they're not fond of adding bloat | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | because it would make audit much more costly | Apr 01 07:03 |
| oiaohm | openbsd got rid of sysvinit very quickly. | Apr 01 07:03 |
| oiaohm | and replaced it. | Apr 01 07:03 |
| MinceR | yet their init is not that different in design, afaik | Apr 01 07:04 |
| MinceR | as for the rc, there's at least 1 GNU/Linux distro that already uses BSD-style rc scripts | Apr 01 07:04 |
| oiaohm | It different enough that it works on a BSD kernel properly. | Apr 01 07:04 |
| oiaohm | Using bsd init system on Linux kernel results in issues like sysvinit suffers from on Linux. | Apr 01 07:05 |
| oiaohm | Init system does need to match how kernel functions. | Apr 01 07:05 |
| MinceR | yes, rarely occurring unlikely issues that only happen if the sysadmin is doing something or the system is booting (as services don't get started or stopped ad hoc) | Apr 01 07:07 |
| MinceR | and are easy to find and fix | Apr 01 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Please remember bsd init on a BSD kernel a stack of issues just don't happen ever. | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | hm, actually iirc bsd rc makes killing services safer | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | at least one just assumes you can kill processes by name, since you're not supposed to run more than one of them | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | one implementation i saw, anyway | Apr 01 07:08 |
| MinceR | instead of pid files | Apr 01 07:09 |
| oiaohm | rarely occurring unlikely issues has been excuse not to fix linux issues. | Apr 01 07:09 |
| MinceR | still preferable to an impossible to understand monstrosity that can fuck up big time at any moment | Apr 01 07:09 |
| MinceR | (in part because it likes respawning services that die) | Apr 01 07:09 |
| oiaohm | If you spend some time on BSD systems you will lean that sysvinit systems that Linux was not that good. Because you will have excussed thing as rare that should not happen at all. | Apr 01 07:13 |
| oiaohm | So the Linux init system need to die. | Apr 01 07:13 |
| oiaohm | I don't think systemd is the right replacement but at least it change. | Apr 01 07:13 |
| oiaohm | personally on design I think openrc is more the right replacement. | Apr 01 07:14 |
| MinceR | there's no system that will never make errors | Apr 01 07:15 |
| MinceR | consider the effect of cosmic rays on RAM and CPU components, for example | Apr 01 07:15 |
| MinceR | or hash-based deduplication in RAM and on disk, vs. hash collisions | Apr 01 07:15 |
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| MinceR | btw, what happens if the cgroup counter wraps around? | Apr 01 07:23 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: so it has a creation time stamp. 64 bit number on each entry. Wrap around of that is kinda too long to worry about hardware is not going to be operational that long. | Apr 01 07:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com | Android Headliner: BlackBerry's Android Hesitation Will Cost Them | Androidheadlines.com | Apr 01 13:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Gear Manager updated to version | Apr 01 13:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Gear Manager updated to version 2.2.16022241 for Tizen Smartwatches - Tizen Experts | Apr 01 13:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/Xe2qcoNzRN | Apr 01 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Apr 01 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online | Apr 01 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online account | Tux Machines | Apr 01 13:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/715893324905897984 | Apr 01 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz FRAND in this context is just about licensing terms. Not subject matter or examination guidelines. | Apr 01 14:31 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.csoonline.com/article/3049999/security/feds-tackle-open-source-code-quality.html | Apr 01 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Feds tackle open source code quality | CSO Online | Apr 01 14:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source software opens door to web design | Apr 01 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source software opens door to web design career | Tux Machines | Apr 01 14:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NixOS 16.03 Released https://t.co/XRnzmmscXX | Apr 01 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for GNU/Linux on Steam | Techrights | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:31 | |
| MinceR | https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/plastic/ | Apr 01 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Google Cardboard Plastic - Google [ http://ur1.ca/oq4po ] | Apr 01 15:50 | |
| XFaCE | "UPDATE: Well, it looks like we pranked ourselves this year. 😟 Due to a bug, the Mic Drop feature inadvertently caused more headaches than laughs. We’re truly sorry. The feature has been turned off. If you are still seeing it, please reload your Gmail page." | Apr 01 15:57 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 01 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers https://t.co/fDnVeUYCt7 | Apr 01 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 15:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for | Apr 01 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by GNU/Linux on Steam https://t.co/6tcu5PFR2m | Apr 01 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (techrights.org) | Apr 01 15:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ekendo retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/4/2016: Free RHEL, 2000 Games for GNU/Linux...' | Apr 01 15:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NixOS 16.03 Released https://t.co/4a1xztAaa1 | Apr 01 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq4s2 | Apr 01 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | NixOS 16.03 Released - Phoronix | Apr 01 15:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/715915823358017537 | Apr 01 16:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Not to mention hoovering all data in customer's systems Why would you give them anything ( especially your business ) ??? | Apr 01 16:00 | |
| XFaCE | https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-climate-redesign-160401/ | Apr 01 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | The Pirate Bay Reveals New "Climate Saving" Design - TorrentFreak | Apr 01 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cvbnz/microsoft_vows_to_stop_all_patent_lawsuits_and/ | Apr 01 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs : linux | Apr 01 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Without reading, this has to be an April Fool's joke." | Apr 01 16:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:02 |
| schestowitz | ..will return money to all but those that are already defunct or bankrupt... | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | (well it is actually sad, but good April full joke) | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 01 16:03 |
| MinceR | indeed, excellent april fools -- calls attention to the evil that's still going on | Apr 01 16:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | this can't be real... next the sun will start rising in the west... | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | but seriously. if this is true and genuine ... this is an amazing about-face in MS's stance and strategy. i have to say i am ... impressed. keep this up and i might begin liking you MS! well done and thumbs up. give wounds time to heal and keep it up. | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | /u/Kruug, taking the piss I see. | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Well played :D | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | "I thought about mod-stickying it, but I didn't think it would be in good taste." | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | "No arguments here!" | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | "WHy it's posted on 31st of March if it's an April Fool's joke?" | Apr 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cuzgq/its_april_1st_and_with_all_those_ms_threads/ | Apr 01 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | It's April 1st and with all those MS threads recently I have no idea what is true or not anymore : linux | Apr 01 16:04 | |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 16:05 |
| XFaCE | https://torrentfreak.com/50000-people-protest-dmca-abuse-crash-government-server-160401/ | Apr 01 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | 50,000 People Protest DMCA Abuse, "Crash" Government Server - TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/oq4uo ] | Apr 01 16:08 | |
| XFaCE | not actually fake | Apr 01 16:08 |
| XFaCE | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160331/15203434070/stupid-patent-month-mega-troll-intellectual-ventures-hits-florist-with-do-it-on-a-computer-scheduling-patent.shtml | Apr 01 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Stupid Patent Of The Month: Mega-Troll Intellectual Ventures Hits Florist With Do-It-On-A-Computer Scheduling Patent | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/oq4v4 ] | Apr 01 16:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online | Apr 01 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alexl.netsons.org | Plasma 5.7 will let you login through online account – Alex L. | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/063EANqhTA (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android smartphones: April 2016 | ZDNet | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Linux tablet aims to make Ubuntu desktop | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobile https://t.co/fHvimS2q2C (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/scprVVVCdd (www.geeky-gadgets.com) | Apr 01 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | New Linux tablet aims to make Ubuntu desktop mobile | ZDNet | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeky-gadgets.com | Ubuntu Linux Tablet Launches On Indiegogo From $230 (video) - Geeky Gadgets | Apr 01 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bbhorne/status/715123480698753024 | Apr 01 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bbhorne: @bradheath @ioerror This is very similar to what Laurie Love is being threatened with in the UK at his hearing on April 12. | Apr 01 17:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jim_Harper/status/714641572818771968 | Apr 01 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jim_Harper: "What is the Christian version of ISIS?" "The Central Intelligence Agency." | Apr 01 17:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/715936201191071744 | Apr 01 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: Now you understand what being a Nazi feels like. https://t.co/geNXW4Ls5j | Apr 01 17:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When people are put in prison not because they're dangerous but because they threaten the status quo or of the 'wrong' race/culture... | Apr 01 17:20 | |
| MinceR | nazis weren't dangerous? that's new | Apr 01 17:21 |
| *belle105 (92b91c3a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.146.185.28.58) has joined #techrights | Apr 01 17:30 | |
| belle105 | hi does anyone knows who is freenode answerable to? if anyone at ll ... | Apr 01 17:31 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 01 17:32 |
| MinceR | probably some subset of its staff | Apr 01 17:32 |
| belle105 | possibly , but its not very effcient if the problem is one of them or their head | Apr 01 17:33 |
| belle105 | ¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯ | Apr 01 17:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 01 17:34 |
| belle105 | lol | Apr 01 17:35 |
| belle105 | who knows | Apr 01 17:35 |
| MinceR | we're living in a Crapsack World | Apr 01 17:35 |
| belle105 | we are ? | Apr 01 17:36 |
| belle105 | i was hoping not | Apr 01 17:36 |
| belle105 | :) | Apr 01 17:36 |
| razielle_tzu | freenode is managed by a group of volunteers, it used to be answerable to the PDPC but they shut down | Apr 01 17:37 |
| belle105 | ok thanks. :) i am new to irc | Apr 01 17:37 |
| belle105 | learning..... continuously | Apr 01 17:38 |
| belle105 | some odd things happening | Apr 01 17:38 |
| belle105 | and no one to talk to really | Apr 01 17:38 |
| belle105 | thank you have a lovely weekend :) | Apr 01 17:39 |
| razielle_tzu | freenode is split into roughly four areas that have one person at the lead https://freenode.net/people | Apr 01 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The People - freenode | Apr 01 17:39 | |
| belle105 | i can't use internal hierarchy | Apr 01 17:40 |
| belle105 | i have to go out of freenode | Apr 01 17:40 |
| MinceR | you could go to court | Apr 01 17:41 |
| XFaCE | belle105: what happened? | Apr 01 17:41 |
| belle105 | i rather not say her eits delicate | Apr 01 17:41 |
| MinceR | or use your own military force, if any | Apr 01 17:41 |
| belle105 | here * | Apr 01 17:41 |
| belle105 | suffice to say i have reported an incident at a request of a friend. which involved the head of freenode | Apr 01 17:42 |
| belle105 | and since then | Apr 01 17:42 |
| MinceR | http://avoidtheinternet.today/ | Apr 01 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-avoidtheinternet.today | Avoid the Internet | Apr 01 17:42 | |
| belle105 | we have been targeted | Apr 01 17:42 |
| belle105 | haha april 1 .... | Apr 01 17:43 |
| belle105 | l thank you again have a nice Friday / wknd | Apr 01 17:44 |
| belle105 | bye | Apr 01 17:44 |
| *belle105 (92b91c3a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.146.185.28.58) has left #techrights | Apr 01 17:44 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: well that was bizarre | Apr 01 17:44 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Apr 01 17:45 |
| MinceR | but then so are the people in charge of freenode and oftc | Apr 01 17:46 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: wonder why she came here | Apr 01 17:50 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 01 17:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.wired.com/2016/03/microsoft-delights-devs-freeing-xamarin-coding-tools/ | Apr 01 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | Microsoft Delights Devs By Freeing Its Xamarin Coding Tools | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/oq5gj ] | Apr 01 17:52 | |
| XFaCE | "Delights" | Apr 01 17:52 |
| XFaCE | 'Freeing' | Apr 01 17:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 17:52 |
| MinceR | some "Devs" they are if they're "Delighted" by such crapware | Apr 01 17:52 |
| XFaCE | "Those were surely some of the questions on the minds of developers last month when Microsoft announced that it would acquire Xamarin, a company that makes tools that help coders build applications that can run on multiple systems, including those made by Microsoft’s rivals, namely Android and iOS. " | Apr 01 17:53 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Woah, totally missed that new | Apr 01 17:53 |
| XFaCE | *s | Apr 01 17:53 |
| XFaCE | "That said, Microsoft isn’t giving away all of Xamarin’s source code. “We’re releasing the Xamarin runtime and all the command line tools you need to build apps,” Xamarin co-founder Nat Friedman said in a comment on the Hacker News forum. But he added that some of Xamarin’s code editing tools will remain proprietary, though they’ll be free to use." | Apr 01 17:54 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: same old story | Apr 01 17:57 |
| XFaCE | WIRED removed comments I've seen | Apr 01 17:57 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: guessing the koolaid must flow uninhibited | Apr 01 17:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 01 17:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7204867 | Apr 01 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The 'new' #microsoft https://twitter.com/iridesce57/status/715915823358017537 recall http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA & http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt for what? I stopped using Windows at home more than ten years ago and I do not need it." | Apr 01 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz Not to mention hoovering all data in customer's systems Why would you give them anything ( especially your business ) ??? | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ] | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Apr 01 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <XFaCE> "Delights" | Apr 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <XFaCE> 'Freeing' | Apr 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz | We LOVE Xamarin, don't we? | Apr 01 18:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 18:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, i love xamarin so much! :launches nuclear ICBM at xamarin: | Apr 01 18:22 |
| MinceR | (Powered by Microsoft(r) Love(tm)) | Apr 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7204643 | Apr 01 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The rise of politicians who give the poor hope by promising to kill >other< poor people (often other ethnics groups). A worrisome trend. | Apr 01 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | "And the problem is not only the politician making unethical promises, but all of his followers as well." | Apr 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I have an article about this in drafts | Apr 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz | but not enough time to get around to it | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | besides, it looks like people aren'y fooled by de Icaza anymore | Apr 01 18:23 |
| MinceR | well, ending the overpopulation issue is worthy of hope | Apr 01 18:23 |
| MinceR | though they'd probably have to kill rich people to do that too | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | So I see plenty of resistance to this "love" anyway | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nuclear winter isn;t the solution | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | it harms food resources, long term too | Apr 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | so famine and fewer overall resources on the planet, for other species too | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | I hope for overpopulation without radical events | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | but there's some brain virus like religious that say produce as many offsprings as possible | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | To make the people who control the religion (the ringleaders) richer and more powerful | Apr 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz | !google wealth of brunei sultan | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Sultan of Brunei Net Worth - biography, quotes, wiki, assets, cars ... | http://www.bornrich.com/sultan-haji-hassanal-bolkiah.html | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Top 15 Wealthiest Royals - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/global/2008/0901/038.html | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah Net Worth - TheRichest | http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/politician/royal/hassanal-bolkiah-net-worth/ | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Royal Family Of Brunei Wealth - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/royal-family-of-brunei-wealth-2014-5 | Apr 01 18:25 |
| schestowitz | !google wealth of vatican | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Pope Francis Fails To Mention The Vatican Billions As He Gives ... | http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-fails-mention-vatican-billions-gives-speech-denouncing-wealth/ | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - How rich is the Vatican? So wealthy it can stumble across millions of ... | http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-millions-euros-just-tucked-away-1478219 | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Vatican Billions - Two Thousand Years of Wealth Accumulation ... | http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_billions.htm | Apr 01 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Roman Catholics: The Vatican's Wealth - TIME | http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833509,00.html | Apr 01 18:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: that won't stop humanity from causing it though | Apr 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715955924637061120 | Apr 01 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yashalevine: Tor, the best kiddie abuse-porn network federal money can buy. @brokenrib @schestowitz | Apr 01 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | ^^pando writers | Apr 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | me: #pando continues its notorious attack on #tor and its users, developers etc. labelling them paedophiles and such… | Apr 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/715957189530222592 | Apr 01 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz @yashalevine @brokenrib Looks like someone has a case of wishful thinking. | Apr 01 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | Haha | Apr 01 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $10 Orange Pi One Linux Benchmarks Against The | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi & Other ARM Boards | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v85NLEki5f (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5qz | Apr 01 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | $10 Orange Pi One Linux Benchmarks Against The Raspberry Pi & Other ARM Boards - Phoronix | Apr 01 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines France unveils source code of income tax | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | application https://t.co/5n2mZL5HSm | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5r0 | Apr 01 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | France unveils source code of income tax application | Tux Machines | Apr 01 18:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux container security is on the evolutionary | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fast track https://t.co/9ejdlWVBsU | Apr 01 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com) | Apr 01 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com | Linux container security is on the evolutionary fast track | Apr 01 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715958460110807041 | Apr 01 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@yashalevine: The best anonymity-abuse network Pentagon money can buy...most traffic is abusive. https://t.co/8yGuAaoddi https://t.co/CiHcO1yU7x | Apr 01 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | CloudFlare: 94 percent of the Tor traffic we see is “per se malicious” | Ars Technica | Apr 01 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #pando continues its notorious attack on #tor and its users, developers etc. labelling them paedophiles and such... https://t.co/Poux2qvJx2 | Apr 01 18:47 | |
| schestowitz | says cloudflare | Apr 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/blankebelg/status/715960986541432833 | Apr 01 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blankebelg: Yeey Atlantis ;'-)) https://t.co/reRbJewHbz | Apr 01 18:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA Used Submarine Probes To Listen In On Undersea Cable Communications https://t.co/AM1rNNaxA0 worse than https://t.co/0c2bgrofz5 | Apr 01 18:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat boosts open source system business | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rZnS0Fngrf (www.koreatimes.co.kr) | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xl | Apr 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreatimes.co.kr | Red Hat boosts open source system business | Apr 01 19:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best Android tablets: April 2016 edition | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kEkCknPUpN (www.zdnet.com) | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xm | Apr 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Best Android tablets: April 2016 edition | ZDNet | Apr 01 19:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Not even Google's Android can pull BlackBerry | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | out of its tailspin https://t.co/PkYDCVwleI | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.cnet.com) | Apr 01 19:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq5xn | Apr 01 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | Not even Google's Android can pull BlackBerry out of its tailspin - CNET | Apr 01 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4cvbnz/microsoft_vows_to_stop_all_patent_lawsuits_and/ | Apr 01 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "April Fools' jokes posted in the morning by people in the rest of the world get timestamped 31st of March by US servers." | Apr 01 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "Timezones, probably. And the notion of keeping the reader guessing whether it's one or not." | Apr 01 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Lawsuits and Threats Against Linux, Drops Existing Secret Settlements, Annuls NDAs : linux [ http://ur1.ca/oq5z0 ] | Apr 01 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeLauriLove/status/715967947223736320 | Apr 01 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FreeLauriLove: @schestowitz Support Lauri Love's effort against extradition. https://t.co/KyHMyy1hF6 Fundraiser: https://t.co/4B4W0VRT12 | Apr 01 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://freelauri.com/category/take-action/ ) | Apr 01 19:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> couragefoundation.spreadshirt.co.uk | Lauri Love | Courage Foundation UK | Apr 01 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/715958460110807041 | Apr 01 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Unless #cloudflare has pedophilia sites as "customers", this does nothing to support your (and Pando's) latest smears against #tor | Apr 01 19:31 |
| MinceR | http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/world-standard-organizations-to-release-entirely-reworked-standards/ | Apr 01 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | World Standard Organizations to Release Entirely Reworked Standards | Hackaday [ http://ur1.ca/oq6c7 ] | Apr 01 19:58 | |
| MinceR | notice they went the extra mile, including "ISO" as a "Standard Organization". hilarious! | Apr 01 19:58 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: http://hackaday.com/2016/04/01/apple-introduces-their-answer-to-the-raspberry-pi/ | Apr 01 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackaday.com | Apple Introduces Their Answer To The Raspberry Pi | Hackaday [ http://ur1.ca/oq6o0 ] | Apr 01 20:28 | |
| MinceR | seen it | Apr 01 20:28 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1446 | Apr 01 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/31/2016 | Apr 01 20:34 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: https://www.bahnhof.se/press/press-releases/2016/04/01/bahnhof-infor-konsindelat-internet | Apr 01 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bahnhof.se | Bahnhof inför könsindelat internet - Nyheter [ http://ur1.ca/oq6rn ] | Apr 01 20:36 | |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 01 20:37 |
| MinceR | i don't speak swedish though | Apr 01 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ne bona | Apr 01 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SA's first Red Hat learnership begins | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qRXnSTvJ64 (www.itweb.co.za) | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6tm | Apr 01 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | SA's first Red Hat learnership begins | ITWeb | Apr 01 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/cXTEaFdRoC | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6tn | Apr 01 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More Android Leftovers https://t.co/ybbXESsIbp | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq6to | Apr 01 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 01 20:42 | |
| schestowitz | Re: This is what I talked about | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > This is what I talked you about that permission I requested from Bloomber | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > editor: | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > From: "Atika Valbrun (BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:)" <avalbrun@bloomberg.net> | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > To: elwanka@gmail.com | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Cc: jgreiff@bloomberg.net | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Re:Fwd:Permission regardin Article Noah Smith | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Eduardo Landaveri, | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you for your interest in Bloomberg content. In order to purchase a | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > specific Bloomberg article, please go to our partner website YGS at the link | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > below and complete the permissions form in full detail. | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Please also find contact details below in case you need further assistance: | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theygsgroup.com/permissionsform | Apr 01 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theygsgroup.com | Permissions Form | The YGS Group [ http://ur1.ca/oq730 ] | Apr 01 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Aimee Gray | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > aimee.gray@theygsgroup.com | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Account Manager | Apr 01 21:04 |
| schestowitz | > Content Sales & Licensing | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > The YGS Group | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > 3650 West Market Street | York, PA 17404 | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > p: 717.505.9701 ext. 2390 f: 888.608.0288 | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > --- | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Who the heck that YGS group belong? I'll investigate later. For the moment, | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > there are more important things to do. | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Cheers | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | "Content Sales & Licensing" | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Excuse me, I've got to go to the toilet to throw up... | Apr 01 21:05 |
| schestowitz | [this is for Spanish translation] | Apr 01 21:07 |
| schestowitz | not even making a copy | Apr 01 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zippydazipster/status/715996355349635073 | Apr 01 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zippydazipster: @schestowitz @hackaday difference will be the apple one is 5x the price and you won't be able to change the battery? 😉 | Apr 01 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205541 | Apr 01 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Companies like #facebook force band to rename http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7318701/norwegian-band-slutface-changes-name-slotface-social-media-censorship http://www.gigwise.com/news/106254/slutface-forced-to-change-name-by-facebook-to-slotface-spong-state http://diymag.com/2016/04/01/slutface-change-name-to-slotface-share-new-single #censorship | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.billboard.com | Slutface Changes Name After 'Social Media Censorship' | Billboard [ http://ur1.ca/oq7ph ] | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | "shouldnt that mean that #facebook is not a feasible platform for about 80% of underground punk bands out there…?" | Apr 01 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gigwise.com | Social media censorship forces Slutface to change name | Gigwise [ http://ur1.ca/oq7pi ] | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> diymag.com | Slutface change name to SLØTFACE, share new single | DIY [ http://ur1.ca/oq7pj ] | Apr 01 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | Facebook is not in the free speech business but in social engineering. Watch who invests... | Apr 01 21:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/v9zvrgXAEu (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq7rp | Apr 01 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Tux Machines | Apr 01 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fair Source licensing is the worst thing to | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | happen to open source-definitely maybe | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JbtSpVrlyR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fair Source licensing is the worst thing to happen to open source-definitely maybe | Tux Machines | Apr 01 22:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3gE6iHgFEs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq7rs | Apr 01 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 01 22:05 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7201216 | Apr 01 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why are so many people using ad blockers? http://www.infoworld.com/article/3049655/android/why-are-so-many-people-using-ad-blockers.html security, #privacy and ethics, among other reasons | Apr 01 22:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com | Why are so many people using ad blockers? | InfoWorld | Apr 01 22:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Why are some people not using ad blockers?" | Apr 01 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Not aware of the possibility, I guess? | Apr 01 22:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1qIOEE54Tc (hackerboards.com) | Apr 01 22:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Net appliance targets Internet cafes | Apr 01 22:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2UHOZxSszf (www.phoronix.com) | Apr 01 22:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Fedora 24 Alpha Benchmarks - Phoronix | Apr 01 22:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 is ready | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oIbloeZdnS (support.zenwalk.org) | Apr 01 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/oq88t | Apr 01 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.zenwalk.org | Zenwalk Support • View topic - Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 is ready | Apr 01 22:47 | |
| gde33 | https://sci-hub.io | Apr 01 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sci-hub.io | Sci-Hub: removing barriers in the way of science | Apr 01 22:58 | |
| MinceR | great! | Apr 01 23:03 |
| MinceR | have they removed christianity yet? | Apr 01 23:03 |
| schestowitz | there are some papers on Jesus | Apr 01 23:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/716024705258401794 | Apr 01 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: (English) @Oracle’s Huge Claims Against #Linux/#Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of #OIN" https://t.co/KKCZtb81Ma https://t.co/R65yfJhkMV | Apr 01 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Oracle’s Huge Claims Against Linux/Android Demonstrate the Uselessness of OIN | Techrights | Apr 01 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_cirrus_minor_: 🖥 Grandes Reclamos de Oracle Contra Linux/Android Demuestra la Futilidad de la OIN https://t.co/hNa6EGyuxL https://t.co/pgXBSHrbSi | Apr 01 23:12 | |
| MinceR | obstacle's crusade against android while being an oin licensee also demonstrates the uselessness of oin | Apr 01 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CoreOS and Intel to Meld Kubernetes, OpenStack | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | into Single Stack https://t.co/faSR2BHQv7 | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ostatic.com) | Apr 01 23:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | CoreOS and Intel to Meld Kubernetes, OpenStack into Single Stack | Apr 01 23:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "projects such as the UbuntuBSD distribution | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | offer a wider range of options to the FOSS | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | community at large." https://t.co/5VOdBZl2V8 | Apr 01 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxjournal.com) | Apr 01 23:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | UbuntuBSD | Linux Journal | Apr 01 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Human Resource Machine from World of Goo | Apr 01 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | creators now on Linux & SteamOS | Apr 01 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/x6qVjCcUwI (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Human Resource Machine from World of Goo creators now on Linux & SteamOS | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 23:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear DLC | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | released with day-1 Linux support | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qIKbwb6zRL (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | not 0-day? | Apr 01 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear DLC released with day-1 Linux support | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and I have some thoughts | Apr 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eqLSjYIGhV (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Apr 01 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on Linux and I have some thoughts | GamingOnLinux | Apr 01 23:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @m0nst3rb favourited 'Create weird looking creatures in CHKN, now on...' | Apr 01 23:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 https://t.co/XOT2kFJpft | Apr 01 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 23:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zenwalk 8.0 beta 3 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 23:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine 1.9.7 https://t.co/21rpVOyauf | Apr 01 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Apr 01 23:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.9.7 | Tux Machines | Apr 01 23:37 | |
| XFaCE | [18:13:04]<MinceR> obstacle's crusade against android while being an oin licensee also demonstrates the uselessness of oin | Apr 01 23:39 |
| XFaCE | it's like having Saudi Arabia as the human rights chair in the UN | Apr 01 23:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, and afaik they really have that position | Apr 01 23:40 |
| XFaCE | my point :P | Apr 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't 'get' what Phipps wants MSFT in OIn for, except a symbolic genture | Apr 01 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess he just wants to make an ultimatum or some kind | Apr 01 23:55 |
| schestowitz | good news is, for now, MS if dying in more fronts | Apr 01 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I've read that Windows Phone is sort of "on hold" | Apr 01 23:55 |
| schestowitz | they don't want to say "dead" yet | Apr 01 23:55 |
| MinceR | maybe he believes it would stop m$ from suing people in the exact way it didn't stop obstacle from doing that | Apr 02 00:02 |
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| XFaCE | [19:02:18]<MinceR> maybe he believes it would stop m$ from suing people in the exact way it didn't stop obstacle from doing that | Apr 02 00:23 |
| XFaCE | And Microsoft has never ever lied/manipulated/exploited pledges they have taken | Apr 02 00:23 |
| XFaCE | *lied about | Apr 02 00:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 02 00:38 |
| *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | Apr 02 08:35 | |
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| amarsh04 | brb, loading new kernel | Apr 02 08:43 |
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| schestowitz | Re: Microsoft en la EPO: Una Mirada a la Relación | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | > I notice that your Spanish translator has added his/her own comment | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | > about favouritism towards Gemalto. Good point! | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | I mostly know them for the GCHQ/NSA fiasco. | Apr 02 09:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205160 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Duterte (Donald Rump of .ph but without the money) described by supporter as, "we're a sick country, we need a sick leader." No comment. | Apr 02 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | "… mis/un informed voters loves buying the “lesser evil” mantra. =(" | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7206963 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:    | Apr 02 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | "Jua jua >_<" | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7205625 | Apr 02 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: At the border of #israel and #lebanon there is also #underwater spying but it's not targeting cables but other forms of "threats". | Apr 02 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | There have been many rumors, but I don’t think they are based on facts. | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | In 2014 in Gaza it turned out the Hamas used “attack tunnels”. Mind you, that the land in those area (sandy) is ideal for digging tunnels. That led to rumors that the Hezbulla will use th same tactic in the northern front (as like the Hamas, it is not exactly successful in over-ground attacks). However the ground over there lies over bed rocks and digging is a tricky challenge. | Apr 02 09:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 09:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NetworkManager 1.0.12 brings a couple of fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 02 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, | Apr 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PMOD, and more https://t.co/DXr3xZ9BAS | Apr 02 09:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi IoT shield offers 1-wire, Grove, PMOD, and more | Tux Machines | Apr 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Apr 02 09:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dzone.com | An Introduction to Linux Distributions - DZone Performance | Apr 02 09:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NetworkManager 1.0.12 brings a couple of fixes | Apr 02 11:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/E5YOLF4oTx (blogs.gnome.org) | Apr 02 11:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2016/04/01/networkmanager-1-0-12-brings-a-couple-of-fixes/ ) | Apr 02 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Android shortcuts you'll wish you knew all | Apr 02 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | along https://t.co/ptUNpbnGmn (www.cnet.com) | Apr 02 13:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnet.com | 5 Android shortcuts you'll wish you knew all along - CNET | Apr 02 13:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 8 of the best new and updated Android apps from | Apr 02 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | March https://t.co/glANTQf2d4 (thenextweb.com) | Apr 02 13:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | 8 of the best new and updated Android apps from March | Apr 02 13:50 | |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, I have seen your articles. That's what made me think of it. I | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > wondered if there is a collection somewhere online which lists all the | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > MS tricks in one place - a kind of reference library of MS evil, where | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | > people can add examples when they come across them. | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | An online mate of mine from Scotland had a go at it about 7 years ago and it's still here: | Apr 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Microsoft_Sins | Apr 02 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | List of Microsoft Sins - Techrights | Apr 02 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | Also translated into some other languages at the time. I could think of lots more, but I didn't write and I don't want to edit it. | Apr 02 14:38 |
| cubexyz | Hiring munchkins? :) | Apr 02 14:40 |
| cubexyz | I like my list better | Apr 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz | which is...? | Apr 02 14:43 |
| cubexyz | had to update it :) | Apr 02 14:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt | Apr 02 14:45 |
| cubexyz | XBox was bad on multiple levels, but it's not important | Apr 02 14:45 |
| cubexyz | merely a sideshow | Apr 02 14:46 |
| cubexyz | the main point, I think, is the old "what's ours is ours and what's yours is ours" attitude of M$ | Apr 02 14:46 |
| cubexyz | basically you can sum everything up with "closed source is slavery" | Apr 02 14:47 |
| cubexyz | Gates and Allen were thieves in that they stole computer time from Universities | Apr 02 14:48 |
| cubexyz | but I predict M$ will collapse, all empires fall eventually | Apr 02 14:50 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft isn't the only company that makes shoddy hard-to-fix products | Apr 02 14:52 |
| cubexyz | so there are multiple issues... | Apr 02 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: That was a good April fools you had | Apr 02 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and you got a Ubuntu device yet :d | Apr 02 14:53 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Apr 02 14:53 |
| cubexyz | if enough people become knowledgeable about Linux/BSD/FOSS and learn to become preservationists and DIYers then M$ is dead | Apr 02 14:59 |
| cubexyz | M$ only survives if people remain stupid | Apr 02 14:59 |
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| MinceR | most people have always been stupid | Apr 02 15:12 |
| MinceR | at least ever since human survival didn't depend on intelligence | Apr 02 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/03/fordham-2016-outstanding-patent-issues.html?showComment=1459585112176#c6154292126109117257 | Apr 02 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The IPKat: Fordham 2016: Outstanding patent issues - the UPC, dual-track systems and Alice v CLS Bank | Apr 02 17:06 | |
| schestowitz | " Sir Robin has in the past pointed out the potential consequences of extending the 9 month time limit for filing an EPO opposition. It seems that the existence of the time limit forces parties to file precautionary EPO oppositions which they might otherwise have chosen to delay. Analogously, the existence of the UPC route would make the precautionary opposition less necessary. Thus the number of opposition cases might drop. " | Apr 02 17:07 |
| MinceR | Sir Robin, from Monty Python & the Holy Grail? | Apr 02 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Florian: | Apr 02 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > You're welcome. I may have more stuff of this kind for you in the coming months. Honestly, I've lost track of the whole EPO mess, but if Battistelli resigns, I'll probably write something about the EPO conflict again. | Apr 02 17:26 |
| schestowitz | You and I should worry more about patent scope at the EPO (and UPC, which related to this) than about Battistelli personally. I think staff increasingly agrees on that too. They're exposed to competing ideologies. Battistelli drove them closer to the EPO's critics. They now see a lot of what's wrong with software patents for instance, not to mention the UPC (the attached PDF criticises it already). | Apr 02 17:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716296654161317888 https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716297613906198529 https://twitter.com/SpaJw/status/716297764364230657 | Apr 02 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: Some might say Roy is ever so slightly obsessed. If he's read IAM, as he claims, he clearly doesn't understand it 😀 https://t.co/R7vDkLOHps | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Biased IAM’s Editor in Chief Goes on the Offensive Against (Software) Patent Sceptics, Still a Trolls Denialist https://t.co/zm9d17fnkT | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: @schestowitz Also worth noting Roy "forgot" to mention Rackspace's CTO was caught red-handed inventing dodgy patent stats. What a surprise 😀 | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SpaJw: @schestowitz - did you not understand this one? https://t.co/lqA1q8YGco | Apr 02 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.iam-media.com | There is an intellectual dishonesty at the heart of the case for US patent reform that needs to be discussed - Blog - Intellectual Asset Management (IAM) - Maximising IP Value for Business | Apr 02 17:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fair Source, April Fools', Winbuntu review | Apr 02 18:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fair Source, April Fools', Winbuntu review | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Apr 02 18:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Introduction to Linux Distributions | Tux Machines | Apr 02 18:05 | |
| cubexyz | the bash stuff was real though, not april fools? | Apr 02 18:34 |
| razielle_tzu | apparently so | Apr 02 18:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu | Apr 02 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conference, Announced for November | Apr 02 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | UbuCon Europe, the Very First European Ubuntu Conference, Announced for November | Apr 02 22:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Apr 02 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years - Phoronix | Apr 02 22:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" | Apr 02 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Officially Released https://t.co/TV1k8lKeko | Apr 02 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 "Jessie" and 7.10 "Wheezy" Officially Released | Apr 02 22:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian 8.4 Released With Security Fixes, Other Package Updates - Phoronix | Apr 02 22:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux | Apr 02 22:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support | Apr 02 22:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for Virtual Text Consoles | Apr 02 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @yPAPAx favourited 'Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel...' | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proposal" For Linux Development | Apr 02 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane Proposal" For Linux Development - Phoronix | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Student Built An Amazing Steam | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | This Student Built An Amazing Steam Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux | Apr 02 23:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Apr 02 23:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Manjaro Linux 15.12 Update Brings Linux Kernel 4.5 and KDE Plasma 5.6.1 | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Apr 02 23:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lima Driver Code Sees First Commits In Years | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support | Apr 02 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GarrettCobarr: @schestowitz Babbage goes modern, or is this some of kind of miniaturized Steam Punk? | Apr 02 23:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ubuntuBSD 15.10 Beta 3 Released, Brings Support for Virtual Text Consoles | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane | Apr 02 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proposal" For Linux Development | Apr 02 23:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Stable Linux Kernel API/ABI? "The Most Insane Proposal" For Linux Development | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:02 | |
| schestowitz | The most common tactic, employed by the agency for some time now, but they still shoot people as well. | Apr 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7207926 | Apr 02 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "U.S.-backed political movements employ “silent coup” tactics to discredit and remove troublesome leaders" https://consortiumnews.com/2016/03/30/a-silent-coup-for-brazil/ | Apr 02 23:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> consortiumnews.com | A ‘Silent Coup’ for Brazil? – Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/oqld1 ] | Apr 02 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | "The most common tactic, employed by the agency for some time now, but they still shoot people as well." | Apr 02 23:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Parliament Approves Contentious Amnesty Law, Potential Reforms to Supreme Court | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11911 | Apr 02 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venezuelanalysis.com | Parliament Approves Contentious Amnesty Law, Potential Reforms to Supreme Court | venezuelanalysis.com | Apr 02 23:07 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Venezuelan Socialist Politician Slain in ‘Vile’ Killing | Apr 02 23:07 |
| schestowitz | http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11912 | Apr 02 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-venezuelanalysis.com | Venezuelan Socialist Politician Slain in 'Vile' Killing | venezuelanalysis.com | Apr 02 23:07 | |
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| schestowitz | Not just in South America | Apr 02 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Student Built An Amazing Steam | Apr 02 23:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Student Built An Amazing Steam Engine-powered Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | Apr 02 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What Can Android Learn from its Competition? | Apr 02 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | What Can Android Learn from its Competition? | Apr 02 23:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Video Shows How to Build an Android App | Apr 02 23:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | This Video Shows How to Build an Android App for Your Arduino Project | Apr 02 23:33 | |
| MarkBilk | ok, stop contaminating this channel with posts about politics dammit! Which is the best up to date non-systemd linux distro now? | Apr 02 23:40 |
| MarkBilk | windows is driving me crazy. and its a short drive. | Apr 02 23:42 |
| cubexyz | slack, openbsd, chromeos | Apr 02 23:43 |
| XRevan86 | MarkBilk: Devuan, Gentoo, Void Linux | Apr 02 23:43 |
| MarkBilk | current slackware - 14.2 - is still in RC1 | Apr 02 23:47 |
| MarkBilk | gentoo is 3/2016 but is source-based | Apr 02 23:49 |
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| MarkBilk | void is rolling but very weird - "builds the software in containers through the use of Linux namespaces, providing isolation of processes and bind mounts (among others)." | Apr 02 23:53 |
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