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TweetTuxMachines                 Asus X00GD with 4,850mAh battery and Android 7.0 clearsJan 01 04:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815552440321929216Jan 01 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 1/1/2017: KDE Plasma 5.9 Coming, PelicanHPC 4.1Jan 01 08:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/1/2017: KDE Plasma 5.9 Coming, PelicanHPC 4.1 | TechrightsJan 01 08:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815556067488739328Jan 01 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/coWgNxgAmpJan 01 08:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815556069090955264Jan 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Mozilla Firefox and Rust https://t.co/SSXDzPqNM7Jan 01 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox and Rust | Tux MachinesJan 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815556071536226304Jan 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/n50QAmJkyTJan 01 08:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815556073977327616Jan 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/kpAOvLIW5fJan 01 08:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815556076372258816Jan 01 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software and KDE https://t.co/0jaexaCh12Jan 01 08:52
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/coffee-and-theoremsJan 01 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Coffee and Theorems [ http://ur1.ca/qa4ry ]Jan 01 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815556078448451585Jan 01 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 01 10:02
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/1/2017: KDE Plasma 5.9 Coming, PelicanHPC 4.1...'Jan 01 10:04
MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/product-fails-terror.jpgJan 01 10:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/1/2017: KDE Plasma 5.9 Coming, PelicanHPC 4.1...'Jan 01 11:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815590866781872128Jan 01 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/gq6j8XXgDVJan 01 11:12
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MinceRhttp://assets.amuniversal.com/5abac980a852013415d4005056a9545d   (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-12-30 )Jan 01 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boss Doesn't See Email - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2016-12-30 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsJan 01 11:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/gq6j8XXgDV'Jan 01 13:11
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schestowitzwent so fast...Jan 01 14:28
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0nZ4-8z5WQ&feature=youtu.be&t=26sJan 01 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CyberPower PowerPanel: Control Your UPS from Linux! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qa5mm ]Jan 01 14:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815644510994698241Jan 01 14:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Iris Pro OpenGL Benchmarks On Debian 9 TestingJan 01 14:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ty888sajLS (www.phoronix.com)Jan 01 14:45
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MarkBilkHi folks!  Happy New Year!Jan 01 14:45
MarkBilkHaven't been here for a while.  Here's a very interesting ebook i just found:  The Best Interface Is No Interface - Golden Krishna.epubJan 01 14:47
MarkBilkWho knows where you can find it?  It's very funny, eg, big screen in your car speedometer so you can read your email while driving 65mph.  What could possibly go wrong?Jan 01 14:52
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-gift-from-godJan 01 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A Gift from GodJan 01 14:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815645044405215232Jan 01 14:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Iris Pro OpenGL Benchmarks On Debian 9 TestingJan 01 14:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QXcipRQTCw (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 01 14:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Iris Pro OpenGL Benchmarks On Debian 9 Testing | Tux MachinesJan 01 14:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815647478242562048Jan 01 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 WireGuard Secure Network Tunnel Is Eyeing Mainline,Jan 01 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Running On Android https://t.co/hR9lcWSX2ZJan 01 14:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Look Back At Some Of The Best Features Added To The Linux Kernel In 2016 - PhoronixJan 01 14:56
MarkBilkAlso recommend this great computer-related movie Live Free or Die Hard (2007) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337978/  Probably totally technically inaccurate, but lots of fun!Jan 01 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live Free or Die Hard (2007) - IMDbJan 01 15:02
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/5ky8g6/more_examples_of_microsoft_and_its_patent_trolls/Jan 01 15:09
schestowitz"Jan 01 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | More Examples of Microsoft and Its Patent Trolls Taxing Linux, Even After Microsoft ‘Joined’ (Paid) the Linux Foundation : StallmanWasRight [ http://ur1.ca/q9we2 ]Jan 01 15:09
schestowitzI still can't believe that manufacturers were stupid enough to adopt ExFAT when free alternatives exist. Its like they enjoy paying the Microsoft Tax or something.Jan 01 15:09
schestowitzAnd even though there isn't F2FS/EXT4 support in Windows, it is no longer a problem, because modern Android devices don't expose the file system over USB anymore anyway. Refusing to adopt ExFAT could make equipment cheaper for everyone.Jan 01 15:09
schestowitz"Jan 01 15:09
schestowitz"Which file system would you pick?"Jan 01 15:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/815651521253806081Jan 01 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 01 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815653457004621824Jan 01 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 WireGuard Secure Network Tunnel Is Eyeing Mainline,Jan 01 15:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WireGuard Secure Network Tunnel Is Eyeing Mainline, Running On Android | Tux MachinesJan 01 15:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815653458908823552Jan 01 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/oFwQZGj5vGJan 01 15:21
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MarkBilkMinceR: Thanks!  This is funny  https://imgur.com/gallery/9yP3I.  Turns out there is a prequel - The Thing (2011) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0905372/, starring Mary Elizabeth Winstead, to the innovative John Carpenter scifi film The Thing (1982) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/ .    Both excellent.Jan 01 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rogue One - Album on ImgurJan 01 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Thing (2011) - IMDbJan 01 15:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815654208460431360Jan 01 16:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Lineage OS, formerly CyanogenMod, kicks off 2017 with aJan 01 16:01
TweetTuxMachines                 new logo https://t.co/JwANmK1J37 (www.androidpolice.com)Jan 01 16:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Lineage OS, formerly CyanogenMod, kicks off 2017 with a new logoJan 01 16:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815664329840357377Jan 01 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Netrunner Desktop 17.01 released https://t.co/AYCEAUKGbEJan 01 16:15
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/you-have-to-love-me   http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1483200364-20161231after.pngJan 01 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - YOU HAVE TO LOVE MEJan 01 16:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815671220066603008Jan 01 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Netrunner Desktop 17.01 released https://t.co/FJ5zYk9YqDJan 01 16:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner Desktop 17.01 released | Tux MachinesJan 01 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Netrunner Desktop 17.01 released https://t.co/FJ5zYk9YqD https://t.co/AIafqWtyDsJan 01 16:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815679755794026496Jan 01 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Leftovers https://t.co/JsBDtx63ruJan 01 17:03
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schestowitzTim_: heyJan 01 17:17
schestowitzyou were looking for me earlierJan 01 17:17
Tim_hi there!Jan 01 17:17
Tim_happy new year and all that.Jan 01 17:17
schestowitzthanks, you tooJan 01 17:18
schestowitzbut who are you?Jan 01 17:18
Tim_lolJan 01 17:18
schestowitzI mean, I'm  thinking WilsomJan 01 17:18
schestowitz*sonJan 01 17:18
Tim_Yep! Check TwitterJan 01 17:19
Tim_I've validated this session with a tweet!Jan 01 17:19
schestowitzah, coolJan 01 17:19
Tim_Been a whileJan 01 17:19
schestowitzSo when do we get to see my goddaughter? ;-)Jan 01 17:19
schestowitzLet's see and MCI play in SunderlandJan 01 17:20
Tim_Whenever you want to come visit..... I am in UK until March then back to Stamford, returning to the UK in May.Jan 01 17:20
schestowitzNot Stamford Bridge I guess (Chelsea)Jan 01 17:20
Tim_Nope.Jan 01 17:21
Tim_But as a West Ham supporter the Bridge wouldn't be any better a workplace.Jan 01 17:22
schestowitzmarch 4thJan 01 17:22
schestowitzsaunderland -mci in sunderlandJan 01 17:22
schestowitz3pmJan 01 17:22
schestowitzsaturdayJan 01 17:22
Tim_I can do that.... March 16 I'm offJan 01 17:22
schestowitzprobably Sunderland's last season in BPLJan 01 17:23
schestowitzDefoe can't save em anymoreJan 01 17:23
Tim_I think they will hang on....maybeJan 01 17:23
Tim_mind you Newcastle will make their lives miserable as they go up and Sunderland goes down.Jan 01 17:23
Tim_theres no rivalry like the Maccams and Geordies.Jan 01 17:23
schestowitzI was in Sunderland only onceJan 01 17:24
Tim_I was up at Providence Park in October...Home to the Portland Timbers.Jan 01 17:24
schestowitzand I think their stadiium of darkness is the main featureJan 01 17:24
Tim_Newcastle fans call it the Stadium of Sh*teJan 01 17:24
schestowitz:-)Jan 01 17:25
schestowitzIt's not as good as St. James' Park (was it called?)Jan 01 17:25
Tim_2017 will be busy for me...Jan 01 17:25
schestowitzSting will die soon maybeJan 01 17:25
Tim_3 jobs...Jan 01 17:25
schestowitzgiven how things worked out for Bowie and MichaelJan 01 17:26
Tim_and I take it by Sting you mean the singer not the wrestler.Jan 01 17:26
schestowitzand then there will be ntohing left to Newcastle except a decent train station ;-pJan 01 17:26
schestowitzThere's a wrestler too?Jan 01 17:26
Tim_yep!Jan 01 17:26
Tim_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_(wrestler)Jan 01 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sting (wrestler) - WikipediaJan 01 17:27
schestowitzhe was out before I was into itJan 01 17:28
schestowitzearlier 90s ishJan 01 17:28
Tim_You'll be into it again when you visit.....Jan 01 17:28
Tim_I'm storyboarding for the WWE.Jan 01 17:28
schestowitzWait, I remember the new appearanceJan 01 17:29
schestowitzwith LugerJan 01 17:29
Tim_wow...thats going back some....Jan 01 17:29
schestowitzI used to collect cards for albumsJan 01 17:30
Tim_Luger is under a legends contract, officially retired.Jan 01 17:30
schestowitzbut that was a good 22+ ish years agoJan 01 17:30
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sting_without_makeup_1998.jpgJan 01 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Sting without makeup 1998.jpg - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qa65e ]Jan 01 17:30
Tim_Here's something you might not know about Sting.....the one person who nobody has a bad word to say about.Jan 01 17:31
Tim_loved and respected by all....very rare in Wrestling.Jan 01 17:31
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sting_HOF_2016.jpgJan 01 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Sting HOF 2016.jpg - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qa65k ]Jan 01 17:32
Tim_stayed loyal to a WCW contract until the end...Jan 01 17:32
schestowitz"Borden was an anabolic steroid user in the 1980s"Jan 01 17:32
schestowitzLoserJan 01 17:32
schestowitzBut I guess all of them were in this 'sport'Jan 01 17:33
schestowitzexcept few with more dignity but less 'success'Jan 01 17:33
schestowitz"He became a born-again Christian in August 1998, after confessing his adultery, and substance and alcohol abuse to his then-wife"Jan 01 17:33
Tim_I think many were.....the WWE has a wellness programme and a zero tollerance policyJan 01 17:33
Tim_it doesn't happen now.Jan 01 17:33
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Tim_So what you reckon on Trump?Jan 01 17:34
Tim_I told you, didn't I?Jan 01 17:34
schestowitzAs if I didn't believe it was conceivableJan 01 17:35
Tim_just like Brexit, it was blatantly obvious.Jan 01 17:35
schestowitzJust look who ran against him :-0Jan 01 17:35
Tim_well I agree...it was sort of get eaten by a lion or eaten by croc.Jan 01 17:35
schestowitzthey brand themselves anti-EstablishmentJan 01 17:35
schestowitzEven when they ARE it, or part of itJan 01 17:36
schestowitzand the masses fall for itJan 01 17:36
Tim_but here's the thing.....the majority of people are not benefiting for their lot in life.  The arrogance of the middle classes think the world runs as well as their lives do...thats why the Brexit vote appealed to both the wealthy and the poor.Jan 01 17:37
schestowitzwho now see the price of foods risingJan 01 17:38
Tim_the middle classes who run off a mindset completely at odds with reality...like driving a hybrid car and thinking they are saving the planet, blissfully unaware the carbon footprint of the car...Jan 01 17:38
schestowitzwhether they can snap jobs of departing EU residents remains to be seenJan 01 17:38
schestowitzTim_: better not to drive at allJan 01 17:38
Tim_and the reduction in public services bills.Jan 01 17:38
schestowitzpublic transport, pref. electric, like tramsJan 01 17:39
schestowitzor walkingJan 01 17:39
Tim_what by riding a bike and not contributing to the maintaining of the roads?Jan 01 17:39
Tim_having no test and an arrogance to believe they are a natural right of way?Jan 01 17:39
Tim_or having no insurance cover?Jan 01 17:39
schestowitzI haven't driven in yearsJan 01 17:40
Tim_save the planet is nonsense because anything saved is offset by the countries who stick two fingers up at environmental claims either real or imagined.Jan 01 17:40
schestowitzI'd rather take a taxi, more convenient in a busy town, only used if lots to carry home, like newly-bought things, and more fits into these vehicles anywayJan 01 17:40
schestowitzTim_: right, like Trump's USJan 01 17:41
Tim_the US is but one...Jan 01 17:41
schestowitzAfrican's waste and footprint is 8 times lower per person than in the West IIRCJan 01 17:41
schestowitzIndonesia is a bit contributor latelyJan 01 17:41
Tim_yes and remind me where they stand in the world?Jan 01 17:42
schestowitzand it receives lots of shaming for itJan 01 17:42
Tim_you can enter an F1 race on bike, but you aren't going to win.....thats the way the world works....Jan 01 17:42
schestowitznot a great analogyJan 01 17:43
schestowitzKorea/Seoul and Tokyo have good public transportJan 01 17:44
schestowitzand also fast connectionJan 01 17:44
Tim_not really, but the point was....for every person who wants to do things in the "right" way, there are plenty of people who will take advantage of that and not do things the right way.Jan 01 17:44
schestowitzyou can improve things and reduce pollution levelsJan 01 17:44
Tim_not when there's whole countries sticking two fingers up at the idea and getting ahead because of it.Jan 01 17:45
schestowitzTim_: doesn't mean everyone should give up progressJan 01 17:45
schestowitzsociety progresses or changes for the better when few people start to deviateJan 01 17:45
schestowitzlike the Burkhardts and Freedom RidersJan 01 17:45
schestowitzTim_: green energy is big businessesJan 01 17:46
Tim_the planet will change, we will change with it.  We can either sit under a table doing the right thing or just come to the conclusion that whatever the truth in the environmental claims, there are whole countries who aint going to do anything about changing.Jan 01 17:46
schestowitzand even China got into itJan 01 17:46
schestowitzit's not enjoying the haze, it deters tourism and causes health liabilitiesJan 01 17:46
Tim_green energy is big business for those trying to sell it.Jan 01 17:46
schestowitzand it sellsJan 01 17:47
Tim_its certainly not what the planet is running off commercially and certainly not what the economy wants.Jan 01 17:47
schestowitzbecause populations don't want coat mines and power plants near themJan 01 17:47
Tim_but you can't build the things on green energy...this is the problem, oil has not been replaced in the factories has it?Jan 01 17:47
Tim_they don't want wind turbines either.Jan 01 17:48
Tim_have you seen the press on those?Jan 01 17:48
Tim_coastal turbines have also got it in the neck by the green brigade.Jan 01 17:48
Tim_as have solar farms.Jan 01 17:48
Tim_it seems the public don't want the mines, but then they don't want the green alternatives either.....maybe they want magic, where a gandalf like character comes and magics this energy?Jan 01 17:49
schestowitzhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-25/record-green-power-installations-beat-fossil-fuel-for-first-timeJan 01 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Record Green Power Installations Beat Fossil Fuel for First Time - BloombergJan 01 17:50
schestowitzThis was covered in many other sites recentlyJan 01 17:50
Tim_if we could generate energy off people campaigning and moaning, we'd have the energy to power the planet.Jan 01 17:50
schestowitzhumanity existed before the ind. rev.Jan 01 17:51
schestowitzand it was a lot smallerJan 01 17:51
schestowitzand live wasn't too tough by some measures (some), like stressJan 01 17:51
schestowitzpeople don't necessarily need to drive to work, only some do (for some occupations)Jan 01 17:52
Tim_If you can let me know a green way to travel 2000+ miles over ocean, please let me know.Jan 01 17:52
schestowitza lot of this and that about Trump and oil is the stuff that's spread in pubs, Breitfart etc.Jan 01 17:52
razielle_tzuaside from sailing?Jan 01 17:52
schestowitzand is often not based on actual factsJan 01 17:53
Tim_yeah...I'll set off now by wind and I might get there by the end of JanuaryJan 01 17:53
schestowitzlarge boats can carry thousands of people and be 'green'Jan 01 17:53
razielle_tzuyou never said fast, you just said 2000+ miles over waterJan 01 17:53
Tim_but the world now runs on the immediateJan 01 17:53
schestowitzdoesn't have toJan 01 17:54
Tim_well I don't think people would want a month long journey to go on holiday either.Jan 01 17:54
schestowitzthe jonrney can be part of the holidayJan 01 17:54
schestowitzcruise ships do thatJan 01 17:54
Tim_the world doesn't have to have Cliff Richard...but it does.Jan 01 17:54
schestowitzthey go all around Europe in just days, or a week...Jan 01 17:54
razielle_tzusome cruise ships ARE the holiday, there's almost no time for passengers to g on land while the ship is in portJan 01 17:55
schestowitzI heard he lives in Wales Jan 01 17:55
schestowitzWhere we traveled and maybe saw his homeJan 01 17:55
Tim_and what of work....."Off on your holidays?" "Yeah, I'm going for a 2 week break to Vegas, I'll be back in three months"Jan 01 17:55
schestowitzpeople don't need to travel farJan 01 17:55
schestowitzthere's plenty to see just tens or hundreds of miles from where they areJan 01 17:55
Tim_Well they do if they want to go to VegasJan 01 17:55
schestowitzbut it's a social construct to travel far, take photos, brag about the cost of the holidayJan 01 17:56
schestowitz(not a new thing)Jan 01 17:56
schestowitzbut now with FB and s* it's getting worseJan 01 17:56
Tim_people don't need to have 64bit machines...they could go back to the ZX81.....they won't though.Jan 01 17:56
schestowitzdifferent thingJan 01 17:56
Tim_well its a restriction on life.Jan 01 17:56
schestowitz64bit isn't just 'for fun'Jan 01 17:56
schestowitzit's practical progressJan 01 17:56
Tim_"You can't go to that place anymore"Jan 01 17:56
schestowitztraveling further is not "progress"Jan 01 17:57
Tim_and for some Vegas is not fun...its work.Jan 01 17:57
schestowitzVegas is terribleJan 01 17:57
schestowitza bunch of rich peopleJan 01 17:57
schestowitztrying to play God with a desertJan 01 17:57
Tim_well if you work there its a little unfortunateJan 01 17:57
schestowitzand look what happened to it after 2008Jan 01 17:57
schestowitzback to desert and slumpJan 01 17:57
schestowitzThat's the kind of crap people like Trump peddleJan 01 17:57
Tim_well without it you'd have all those jobs not existing.Jan 01 17:58
schestowitzfantasies of lifestyle which they advertise on TVJan 01 17:58
schestowitzcocktails, women, jackpots where you always bag itJan 01 17:58
Tim_the vegas lifestyle does exist...the only myth around it is that its something everyone can get.Jan 01 17:58
Tim_everyone can't.Jan 01 17:58
schestowitzit's fantasy worldJan 01 17:59
schestowitzlike disneyland for adultsJan 01 17:59
schestowitzwho want to get laid and drunkJan 01 17:59
Tim_for those who don't achieve the dream yes.Jan 01 17:59
Tim_you see vegas is a metaphor for the world....Jan 01 17:59
Tim_some win, most don't....its the losers who keep the winners winning.Jan 01 17:59
Tim_just like how the whole planet can't be millionaires.....Jan 01 18:00
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/OnDu7Ej.jpgJan 01 18:00
Tim_our economy rewards success, but gives to only a few who get supported by a majority of havenots.Jan 01 18:00
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Tim_now thats great news if you are a "have" and a point of complaint for the "havenots"Jan 01 18:01
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Tim_You know what Roy....I've missed these chats...its been far too long.Jan 01 18:02
XRevan86Vegas is not that great? What else did Hollywood lie to me about!?Jan 01 18:02
Tim_Vegas is great for the winners....Jan 01 18:03
Tim_unfortunately there are all too few of them.Jan 01 18:03
razielle_tzuyou mean the casinos?Jan 01 18:03
razielle_tzubecause the house always wins in the endJan 01 18:03
Tim_yeah, talking about the concept of easy money....gambling....Jan 01 18:03
XRevan86Tim_: Winners don't have to visit Vegas though. They live there :).Jan 01 18:03
MinceRthe casino ownersJan 01 18:04
Tim_I'd not have bought a house in Vegas...Jan 01 18:04
XRevan86I didn't imply all people that live in Vegas are winnersJan 01 18:04
Tim_we bought on the West Coast where the lifestyle is more down to earth.Jan 01 18:04
razielle_tzui would, just to rent it outJan 01 18:04
XRevan86but all winners live thereJan 01 18:04
XRevan86(02:04:00) MinceR: the casino ownersJan 01 18:04
XRevan86because that :)Jan 01 18:04
XRevan86Though maybe they don't live there, and just owning remotely.Jan 01 18:05
XRevan86My logic is bogus.Jan 01 18:05
XRevan86If I'd be a casino owner, I'd live in a quiet place near a warm sea in a giant castle.Jan 01 18:06
XRevan86not VegasJan 01 18:06
razielle_tzuif i owned a casino in vegas i'd probably live in another countryJan 01 18:07
XRevan86razielle_tzu: Isn't US the best to live in for the rich?Jan 01 18:08
schestowitzTim_: ....backJan 01 18:08
schestowitzgot distracted by SnowdenJan 01 18:08
Tim_Speaking as someone who is quite well travelled and lives in the UK/US 60/40 I think the best country in the world to live is the US.Jan 01 18:08
XRevan86That's where a lot of Russian rich people live anyway.Jan 01 18:08
XRevan86That and London.Jan 01 18:08
schestowitz[23:03] <razielle_tzu> because the house always wins in the endJan 01 18:08
schestowitzBut you get some 'free' sipsJan 01 18:09
schestowitzand selfies to uploadJan 01 18:09
schestowitzwith some tokens and a cheap suitJan 01 18:09
razielle_tzuXRevan86: i don't know the USA well enough to comment and i live in the UK so owning a casino in vegas is kinda moot anywayJan 01 18:09
schestowitz[23:08] <XRevan86> razielle_tzu: Isn't US the best to live in for the rich?Jan 01 18:10
schestowitzFor rich companiesJan 01 18:10
schestowitzand their CEOs and shareholders tend to live there tooJan 01 18:10
Tim_councilling is where the money is at in the US IMOJan 01 18:10
XRevan86Isn't Ireland the best to live in for rich companies? :)Jan 01 18:10
schestowitztax law friendly towards them, large local market, corrupt government whose officials you can buyJan 01 18:10
razielle_tzuyeahJan 01 18:11
schestowitzand they'll throw taxpayers at you at 10 times what they ought to, what's 20 trillion dollars in national debt anyway when your mates pocket this money and send it to offshore secret bank accounts?Jan 01 18:11
Tim_everyone has a price.Jan 01 18:11
Tim_human nature dictates we take care of our own first.Jan 01 18:11
XRevan86razielle_tzu: Well, you just have to see what countries rich guys prefer to be in.Jan 01 18:11
schestowitz[23:10] <XRevan86> Isn't Ireland the best to live in for rich companies? :)Jan 01 18:12
schestowitzthey don't live thereJan 01 18:12
schestowitzthey just register ;-)Jan 01 18:12
XRevan86They have options and they'll pick the best for themselves.Jan 01 18:12
schestowitzLet corrupt Irish officials take care of the restJan 01 18:12
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/9EfDPm6.jpgJan 01 18:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Heh, makes sense :).Jan 01 18:12
schestowitzand Swiss bankers 'manage' (hide) their moneyuJan 01 18:12
schestowitzor some London equivsJan 01 18:12
Tim_well its not something people can do much about....and when someone gets "caught" managing money...where does it go?  Back to the government that started the whole thing anyway.Jan 01 18:13
XRevan86I bet the government issues some sanctions and lets it slide.Jan 01 18:14
XRevan86'just don't do it next time' or something :)Jan 01 18:14
Tim_so then a vote for a brexit or a trump to throw a spanner into the works is not such a bad thing...Jan 01 18:14
MinceRunless the explosion takes you outJan 01 18:15
schestowitz(which happens])Jan 01 18:15
Tim_well under Trump, conflict with Russia seems less likely than with Clinton....so thats a promising start.Jan 01 18:15
schestowitzone of fewJan 01 18:16
MinceRyeah, capitulation makes conflict less likelyJan 01 18:16
XRevan86Tim_: It's all within the status-quo.Jan 01 18:16
razielle_tzuat the same time trump is doing almost all he can to piss the chinese offJan 01 18:16
schestowitzMinceR: +1Jan 01 18:16
MinceRwhich of course makes conflict avoidance very easyJan 01 18:16
Tim_and with a brexit the UK can actually bring in a more diverse range of people from all over the planet, rather than just a europe superstate getting all the vacancies.Jan 01 18:16
MinceRbut they won'tJan 01 18:16
schestowitzlet's see what trump does when putin 'takes back' estoniaJan 01 18:16
MinceRthey're under tory controlJan 01 18:16
schestowitzgentlemen's deal... "for our time"Jan 01 18:17
XRevan86and with a brexit the UK can actually bring in a more diverse range of people *to* all over the planetJan 01 18:17
XRevan86Why is it always Estonia?Jan 01 18:17
schestowitz[23:17] <XRevan86> and with a brexit the UK can actually bring in a more diverse range of people *to* all over the planetJan 01 18:17
MinceRthey're too close to russia, too small and too weakJan 01 18:18
razielle_tzuthe governemnt are gonna bring in more stringent visa control when article 50 has been ratified, we're not going to get a more diverse range of people at allJan 01 18:18
schestowitzus loses uni applilcations nowJan 01 18:18
XRevan86Literally nobody here cares about Estonia.Jan 01 18:18
MinceRputain does careJan 01 18:18
schestowitzcanada uni apps fro us up 70%Jan 01 18:18
schestowitzbrain drainJan 01 18:18
XRevan86Why Estonia as a target then?Jan 01 18:18
schestowitzbetter start building more unis in canada nowJan 01 18:18
MinceRif he can add 1 mm^2 to russia, that's a win for him and for his supportersJan 01 18:18
MinceRalso, estonia is a nato memberJan 01 18:19
XRevan86MinceR: Why not chop some more from Ukraine then?Jan 01 18:19
MinceRthat's ongoingJan 01 18:19
razielle_tzuhe probably will soonJan 01 18:19
MinceRbut he will always want moreJan 01 18:19
XRevan86Or maybe PMRJan 01 18:19
schestowitz[23:17] <MinceR> they're too close to russia, too small and too weakJan 01 18:19
MinceRputain hopes to trick the nato into failing to support a member stateJan 01 18:19
schestowitztoo closeJan 01 18:19
schestowitzfunny phrasingJan 01 18:19
MinceRso the whole thing falls apart and he can march into the EUJan 01 18:19
schestowitz"you're hiding my sun..."Jan 01 18:20
Tim_the EU won't last.Jan 01 18:20
MinceRneither will the russian empireJan 01 18:20
MinceRthey've destroyed their own economy once alreadyJan 01 18:20
MinceRthe human species won't lastJan 01 18:20
XRevan86MinceR: And then Russia fails as a state because it can't deliver to people who are used to the EU quality of life. Good tactic.Jan 01 18:20
MinceRwe're (mostly happily) marching into extinctionJan 01 18:20
MinceRXRevan86: so, what are those people going to do?Jan 01 18:20
XRevan86MinceR: Maybe same thing Polish Autonomy in Russian Empire did.Jan 01 18:21
Tim_and if you had a dollar for everytime throughout history it was said "human race won't last" you'd be as rich as trump...hopefully minus the dodgy haircut.Jan 01 18:21
MinceRthe dodgy haircut is not wealthJan 01 18:21
Tim_the dodgy haircut is a symbol of power...Jan 01 18:21
MinceRi didn't get the memo about thatJan 01 18:21
XRevan86Tim_: The atomic bomb is a relatively new invention though.Jan 01 18:21
Tim_the average person couldn't pull off that haircut.Jan 01 18:22
MinceRneither can goldendawnaldJan 01 18:22
schestowitz:-)Jan 01 18:23
Tim_Xrevan86 and who is going to push the button?  Nobody because of the consequences....with exception of a few small rogue countries, the big boys won't fire on each other?  What would be the point?  Bask in the knowledge of destroying the enemy whilst sitting in the ruins of your own country?Jan 01 18:23
MinceRthere are lots of people who either don't mind the consequences or don't understand themJan 01 18:23
Tim_its only the countries with nothing to lose to that would do it.Jan 01 18:23
razielle_tzuboth trump and may have said they have no problem using nukesJan 01 18:24
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentalityJan 01 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Crab mentality - WikipediaJan 01 18:24
XRevan86Tim_: There are numerous accounts of almost releasing the blast during the Cold War.Jan 01 18:24
schestowitzTim_: not trueJan 01 18:24
Tim_yes - but who on?  North Korea would be one thing...China or similar something else.Jan 01 18:24
schestowitzaccidental launches almost happened about a dozen timeJan 01 18:24
schestowitzit's a miracle it was stopped on timeJan 01 18:24
MinceRrussia has either nothing to lose or getting there fastJan 01 18:25
schestowitzand that we haven't had nuclear strikes, only experiments, all this timeJan 01 18:25
razielle_tzumay has said she'd use them in syria and other places with insurgents if she was sure she wouldn't be dragged to court for itJan 01 18:25
Tim_and the cold war was Russia...which goes back to my point on trump....war is less likely under him.Jan 01 18:25
XRevan86MinceR: Nah, everything's not that bad.Jan 01 18:25
schestowitzsome of these systems don't have buttonsJan 01 18:25
MinceRafaict the person who predicted trump's success best has already admitted he doesn't know what trump actually wants to doJan 01 18:25
MinceR(of course, he's in denial about that)Jan 01 18:26
MinceRXRevan86: some of it is worse?Jan 01 18:26
schestowitzthey're sort of on 'autopilot' and will dispatch with minumal intervention from human operator when they detect what seems like first strike attemptJan 01 18:26
XRevan86MinceR: There's a lot to lose anyway.Jan 01 18:26
schestowitzboth Russian and US nuclear systems are aging and crapJan 01 18:26
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2016/12/30/the-eyes-have-itJan 01 18:26
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schestowitzthe US still uses massive floppy disks in someJan 01 18:26
XRevan86MinceR: Also, Russian rich people won't nuke the places they live in.Jan 01 18:27
MinceRXRevan86: just wait until the price of oil dropsJan 01 18:27
schestowitzthe US modernises these, at huge expense to the public, after Nuclear Obama did a hypocritical spiel in JapanJan 01 18:27
MinceRXRevan86: fundamentalists don't really care -- they'll go to heaven!Jan 01 18:27
MinceRalso, see crab mentality aboveJan 01 18:27
XRevan86MinceR: Russia is not that religious, BTW.Jan 01 18:27
Tim_the internet predicted doomsday relies on an ethos of "just wait".....and people do wait.....and nothing happens.Jan 01 18:27
schestowitz[23:25] <MinceR> afaict the person who predicted trump's success best has already admitted he doesn't know what trump actually wants to doJan 01 18:27
XRevan86It's kinda religious, but… it's weird.Jan 01 18:27
MinceRit's religious enough to bind the state to one churchJan 01 18:27
schestowitzas if only one person predicted itJan 01 18:27
MinceRit's religious enough to make a joke out of its judicial system for the sake of putain's favorite cultJan 01 18:28
XRevan86Religious people are mostly pragmatic (and superstitious).Jan 01 18:28
MinceRthey may _believe_ themselves to be pragmaticJan 01 18:28
MinceRbut many of the people who love to throw the word "pragmatic" around are anything butJan 01 18:28
XRevan86MinceR: I'm not throwing it at myself :).Jan 01 18:29
XRevan86I'm not religious either at all.Jan 01 18:29
schestowitzI think most of us here are atheistsJan 01 18:29
MinceRXRevan86: then you're in dangerJan 01 18:29
schestowitz(the ones in this convo right now)Jan 01 18:29
XRevan86MinceR: What my impression is, religion in Russia serves two purposes: the herd and traditionalism.Jan 01 18:30
MinceRhttp://freethoughtreport.com/countries/europe-eastern-europe/russia/#BlasphemyJan 01 18:30
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Tim_don't think its just religion that herds people....people are stupid enough all by themselves..Jan 01 18:30
MinceRwhat i don't get is how is it possible that religiousness is allegedly in decline globally yet we have these fascist religious fundamentalists rising everywhereJan 01 18:31
XRevan86MinceR: The people in power don't care.Jan 01 18:31
Tim_there's thousands visiting Sedona to see if Bashar the alien from the Essassani race is landing...I joke you not.Jan 01 18:31
MinceRXRevan86: they don't care about you eitherJan 01 18:31
razielle_tzuthe numbers go down and the ones remaining are just crazier?Jan 01 18:31
MinceRXRevan86: and there's no rule of law to protect youJan 01 18:31
XRevan86Tim_: But you can make people better relate to groups and do us-them using religion.Jan 01 18:31
MinceRthe "ones remaining" have increasing political power and support, somehowJan 01 18:31
Tim_you don't need religion...you just need needy people..Jan 01 18:32
Tim_and they will believe anything.Jan 01 18:32
Tim_its why these conspiracy theories sell so well.Jan 01 18:32
XRevan86Tim_: Have you ever heard something like 'Muslim people are in danger' or something?Jan 01 18:32
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XRevan86Muslim as a group of peopleJan 01 18:32
MinceRsome religions are good at creating needinessJan 01 18:32
XRevan86you can bind nationalities with this shietJan 01 18:32
MinceR"you're guilty and sinful for just being born, but if you do what we say, you won't be tortured forever in hell!"Jan 01 18:32
razielle_tzui've heard that a lotJan 01 18:33
Tim_human nature desires to be grouped...whethers its by soccer team, software choice or religious view....humans need to be grouped.Jan 01 18:33
Tim_and humans need to be led.Jan 01 18:33
razielle_tzumostly from americans and some eastern europeansJan 01 18:33
MinceRi don'tJan 01 18:33
XRevan86MinceR: My point is: Russian government is mostly not fundamentalist, they just want to have levers over people.Jan 01 18:34
Tim_well you do.....you need rules to live your life....imagine a world without rules where you could do as you pleased and so could everyone else...what do you think would happen?Jan 01 18:34
XRevan86which sucks but a different thingJan 01 18:34
MinceRit's fundamentalist enough to sacrifice things that matter for the sake of religionJan 01 18:34
razielle_tzuchaos for a while but then there'd be self-governing groupsJan 01 18:34
XRevan86Tim_: Can such a world exist even?Jan 01 18:34
Tim_there you go...rules/Jan 01 18:34
Tim_self governing groups.Jan 01 18:35
Tim_thats what countries are...just on a larger scale.Jan 01 18:35
XRevan86MinceR: They sacrifice things that don't matter for them for the sake of control.Jan 01 18:35
MinceRTim_: the same thing -- getting oppressed by douchebags with a lot of powerJan 01 18:35
Tim_yes....and people need that.Jan 01 18:35
MinceRthere's no political system that can make a society made of evil and stupid humans workJan 01 18:35
Tim_because without consequence things will fall appart.Jan 01 18:35
MinceRthings are falling apartJan 01 18:35
Tim_and they would be better under no rule?Jan 01 18:36
XRevan86douchebags with a lot of power create consequenceJan 01 18:36
MinceRthey wouldn't tolerate having no ruleJan 01 18:36
MinceRthey'd re-establish a state in that caseJan 01 18:36
MinceRbut it doesn't matterJan 01 18:36
Tim_nobody would be able to live under no rule.Jan 01 18:36
razielle_tzua state of no rule can't exist if there's more than one person involvedJan 01 18:36
razielle_tzua state of no consequences on the other handJan 01 18:36
Tim_because for every do gooder theres a 1000 selfish people...and thats the human condition right there.Jan 01 18:36
schestowitz[23:34] <razielle_tzu> chaos for a while but then there'd be self-governing groupsJan 01 18:36
MinceRyou can have a few douchebags have all the power, you can have a democratic state with a majority of idiots, or you can have (perhaps only temporarily) a stateless society with these peopleJan 01 18:36
schestowitzYou beat me to itJan 01 18:37
MinceRthose roads all lead to oblivionJan 01 18:37
XRevan86Tim_: There are always implicit society rules.Jan 01 18:37
schestowitzThat's how small communities and tribes already operateJan 01 18:37
MinceRno, not merely selfishJan 01 18:37
Tim_ok more than that, but the point stands.Jan 01 18:37
MinceRthere are lot of people who will go out of their way and expend resources just to make others miserableJan 01 18:37
Tim_agreed.Jan 01 18:37
MinceRbut once humanity manages to exterminate itself, this will be overJan 01 18:37
XRevan86MinceR: They mostly just don't care.Jan 01 18:38
MinceRat least for a whileJan 01 18:38
schestowitzMinceR: too bad many animals species will have vanished by then tooJan 01 18:38
MinceRindeedJan 01 18:38
schestowitzwe'll eat what's left except germsJan 01 18:38
Tim_and can anyone here honestly say that if they could have a piece of the extremely wealthy lifestyle they would turn it down?Jan 01 18:38
MinceRand plants, and microorganismsJan 01 18:38
schestowitzChina already eats just about any animal it can get its hands onJan 01 18:38
MinceRan extremely wealthy lifestyle doesn't have to mean making life hell for other peopleJan 01 18:38
schestowitzmammals that are rare too, like armadillosJan 01 18:39
razielle_tzuTim_: i would, so long as my basic needs are met i really couldn't give a shit about wealthJan 01 18:39
Tim_no...but for arguments sake, say it does...who were would stand by their morals and turn down that life?Jan 01 18:39
schestowitzMinceR: then humans will become the latest layer of fossil fuelsJan 01 18:39
MinceRyeah, maybeJan 01 18:39
XRevan86Tim_: One can finance a revolution from that resources %).Jan 01 18:40
schestowitzwhich maybe billions of years from now, before the sun expands, will be used by future organisms 'smart' enough to burn it all again ^_^Jan 01 18:40
Tim_yes but that wasn't the point.Jan 01 18:40
XRevan86Tim_: I think that even happened before.Jan 01 18:40
Tim_you "could" give it all to the poor.Jan 01 18:40
XRevan86when rich people gave up their moneys for the GoalJan 01 18:40
Tim_like Bill Gates eh? ;)Jan 01 18:40
schestowitzHahaJan 01 18:40
razielle_tzulolJan 01 18:40
schestowitzand TrumpJan 01 18:41
schestowitzdonated to himselfJan 01 18:41
Tim_well charity begins at home as they say.Jan 01 18:41
schestowitzmore crudely and shallowly than Gates did, invests and then 'donates' to promote his investmentsJan 01 18:41
XRevan86Tim_: If the Goal is PR then yes :DJan 01 18:41
XRevan86and more moneys,Jan 01 18:41
Tim_what is the goal?Jan 01 18:42
schestowitzrespectJan 01 18:42
schestowitzfrom other oligarchsJan 01 18:42
XRevan86Tim_: What I meant is something risky, fundamental and idealisticJan 01 18:42
schestowitzand it helps is the masses with pitchforks are paralysed by their ignorance tooJan 01 18:42
Tim_I'd be happy to hear it.Jan 01 18:42
Tim_we all going to sit around a campfire singing songs with flowers in our hair?Jan 01 18:43
razielle_tzudepends, what we eating?Jan 01 18:43
Tim_Torfu burgers.Jan 01 18:43
razielle_tzui'll passJan 01 18:43
Tim_no cows, they are banned, bad for the environment.Jan 01 18:43
MinceRgood thing tofu isn't... oh waitJan 01 18:44
Tim_and you can't cook for too long ...that fire is damaging the environment.Jan 01 18:44
XRevan86Tim_: I can't remember. Somewhere from the back of my head, I think that there was a rich guy who gave up all his moneys to back a revolution in the state.Jan 01 18:44
Tim_but you can't recall who?  Thats made my point for me.Jan 01 18:44
schestowitzcooking doesn't require anywhere near as much as flyingJan 01 18:44
XRevan86Tim_: I can't indeed.Jan 01 18:44
schestowitzstart with the big energy hogsJan 01 18:45
Tim_if every family on the planet has a wood fire, I'm sure it won't be good.Jan 01 18:45
Tim_theres quite a few people on Earth.Jan 01 18:45
schestowitzcars that use us gasoline and leave lots of gas aboundJan 01 18:45
MinceRdepends on how many families there areJan 01 18:45
schestowitz*use upJan 01 18:45
MinceRthere are definitely too many people on earthJan 01 18:45
schestowitzand large familiesJan 01 18:45
schestowitzesp. in poor countriesJan 01 18:45
Tim_maybe cook people then?  Solves two problems in one...smaller carbon footprint and reduces population.Jan 01 18:46
MinceRpeople eat all sorts of toxinsJan 01 18:46
schestowitzwhere barbarism is more of a natural instinct, due to fear for one's survivalJan 01 18:46
MinceRand then some of that accumulates in the fleshJan 01 18:46
Tim_see....there is not a valid alternative.Jan 01 18:46
MinceRmoderation would be a valid alternativeJan 01 18:46
MinceRbut humans are unwilling to practice itJan 01 18:46
Tim_exactly.Jan 01 18:46
Tim_my point all along.Jan 01 18:47
schestowitzsome do Jan 01 18:47
schestowitzlike in north EuropeJan 01 18:47
schestowitzmoderate-sized familiesJan 01 18:47
Tim_with rules/Jan 01 18:47
Tim_and back to my point about how humans need control.Jan 01 18:47
schestowitzwilderness mostly in tact, except in few large cities where people live close to workJan 01 18:47
razielle_tzueven animals have some kind of rulesJan 01 18:47
Tim_that sounds pleasant....cram em it...Jan 01 18:47
schestowitzTim_: religion teaches them to reproduce as much as possibleJan 01 18:47
razielle_tzuand a hierarchyJan 01 18:47
schestowitzsome religions more than othersJan 01 18:48
MinceRhumans need self-control, and most do not have itJan 01 18:48
Tim_you don't need religion to get jiggy with your partner...Jan 01 18:48
schestowitzso controlling people using religion doesn't go a long way in ensuring survival of the speciesJan 01 18:48
schestowitzRMS called it brain virsusJan 01 18:48
Tim_I'd say the UK benefits system encourages more children than religion.Jan 01 18:48
schestowitzbecause of how it spreadsJan 01 18:48
schestowitzTim_: not anymoreJan 01 18:48
razielle_tzuTim_: that /might/ be true for those that point blank refuse to work but for others it REALLY doesn'tJan 01 18:49
schestowitzBTW, news today is that Scotland wants to implement Basic IncomeJan 01 18:49
razielle_tzuawesomeJan 01 18:49
schestowitzcan solve a lot of those "not enough jobs" man-made 'problems'Jan 01 18:49
razielle_tzuyeahJan 01 18:49
MinceRi wonder what the effects of that will beJan 01 18:49
Tim_but Scotland is thriving....it wants its independence.Jan 01 18:49
schestowitzsmall population tooJan 01 18:50
schestowitzit can be like a Scandinavian nationJan 01 18:50
Tim_I think they should get another vote on that.Jan 01 18:50
razielle_tzuthey won't for a whileJan 01 18:50
schestowitzWestminister won't give thatJan 01 18:50
schestowitzunless it can get a grip on the outcomeJan 01 18:50
Tim_if they wish to split from the UK, I'll fully support what is voted for.Jan 01 18:51
Tim_unlike the remainers who wanted another vote..Jan 01 18:51
XRevan86Tim_: Of course, for some rich person to give his wealth, he'd have to not longe for it in the first place, which rules out 99.9% of them.Jan 01 18:51
razielle_tzusome of the leavers want another vote after learning they got lied to by the campaignersJan 01 18:52
Tim_but why do I care...by the end of 2017 I'll be a US citizen, so the UK can do as it pleases.Jan 01 18:52
XRevan86and those who are left tend to not have it for long, so they can spend it on charity as well.Jan 01 18:52
schestowitzTim_: same year Trump takes powerJan 01 18:53
schestowitza lot of US citizens try going the other way right nowJan 01 18:53
schestowitzgain a European citizenship somewhere, or NZ, or CAJan 01 18:53
Tim_XRevan86: If you suddenly came into millions....can you now honestly say you'd give it away? Or would you, like the majority just go off on a bender and have a great time...?Jan 01 18:54
schestowitzI know some who did just thatJan 01 18:54
XRevan86Tim_: I'd probably won't live long :)Jan 01 18:54
Tim_thats a politician answer....I'll make it easy.....would I give away my money?  Hell no.  Its mine.  Now whilst it would be fashionable for people to say "Thats evil/selfish" I'm not going to say things just to please others.  I think the majority of people feel the same way as me, just too afraid to be honest.Jan 01 18:55
XRevan86Tim_: I'll have to either secure these millions and myself or give it away.Jan 01 18:55
XRevan86Tim_: Like I said, in those rare cases when people accidentally get lots of moneys just like that, they don't have it for long.Jan 01 18:57
razielle_tzuor die in a massive benderJan 01 18:57
Tim_Well yes, I'd agree..Jan 01 18:57
Tim_but if we put the money on being received as say a job...then its different to those who win millions and waste it all in a few weeks..Jan 01 18:58
XRevan86Tim_: If you have such a wealty job, it's not that wealty :DJan 01 18:59
XRevan86wealthy*Jan 01 18:59
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @WSJ Don't take WSJ too seriously. This...'Jan 01 18:59
XRevan86or you're already rich and you pay yourselfJan 01 18:59
Tim_well no...Jan 01 19:00
XRevan86Tim_: You can be relatively rich.Jan 01 19:00
XRevan86but… not rich richJan 01 19:00
Tim_I went from only £42K a year to something else.....sort of changes your views on things.Jan 01 19:00
amarsh04Tokyo has quite a large area where public transport is "good enough" not to require a car (including things like delivery services that substitute for car ownership)Jan 01 19:00
XRevan86amarsh04: But cars are so much superior. In a car you can relax in a traffic jam.Jan 01 19:01
Tim_you can't speak for the wealthy until you are wealthy, just as the wealthy can't speak for the poor...they don't have an idea of what its like.Jan 01 19:01
amarsh04and taxi services so good that uber couldn't compete for passenger services but instead offers takeaway food delivery servicesJan 01 19:01
XRevan86Can you in the public transport only area? Huh? Didn't think so.Jan 01 19:01
Tim_one could argue that by using taxi's you are encouraging even more damage to the environment....those taxis run in addition to all the other traffic 24-7Jan 01 19:02
schestowitzfewer vehicles overallJan 01 19:03
razielle_tzumeh, i use public transport, my bicycle or very rarely get a lift from familyJan 01 19:03
schestowitzfor those who used them routinelyJan 01 19:03
amarsh04old taxis - Toyoto Crown, new taxis Toyota PriusJan 01 19:03
Tim_well look at xmas day....most people will take a taxi instead of walking to a pub...thats extra damage right there.Jan 01 19:03
schestowitzso less pollution associated with production and maintenanceJan 01 19:03
XRevan86Tim_: So… how big is your castle?Jan 01 19:03
schestowitzmore mileage per car basicallyJan 01 19:03
XRevan86Tim_: The primary one of course.Jan 01 19:03
Tim_and since a person needs to make a journey, whats the difference in damage between you jumping in a cab or making the same journey in your own vehicle?Jan 01 19:04
Tim_I don't have a castle.Jan 01 19:04
schestowitzmore vehicles made/producedJan 01 19:04
XRevan86Tim_: 4 floors cottege at least?Jan 01 19:04
Tim_and taxis need to be maintained, they are running longer.Jan 01 19:04
amarsh04well, you can use any taxi, but you have to use your particular carJan 01 19:04
Tim_no...not four floors.Jan 01 19:05
MinceRcars have their disadvantages tooJan 01 19:05
razielle_tzuthe cab is likely to be on the road already and taking another fare if it doesn't take you, using your own car adds one to the roadJan 01 19:05
amarsh04so less vehicles neededJan 01 19:05
Tim_our UK house has 3 bedrooms our US one has 4Jan 01 19:05
XRevan86Tim_: That's rich-ish indeed.Jan 01 19:05
Tim_but the journies are still being made, so you are only saving on the vehicle...Jan 01 19:05
amarsh04and less storage / road space for vehicles neededJan 01 19:05
XRevan86Tim_: But not rich enough, sorry.Jan 01 19:05
MinceRfor example, if your car breaks down, dealing with that will waste more of your time than just switching vehicles or modes of transportationJan 01 19:05
Tim_xrevan86: you've not asked how much we paid.Jan 01 19:05
MinceRmaintaining a car of your own is also a lot of extra workJan 01 19:06
Tim_our UK house cost 82k.....our US house cost $320k....where Roy lives the two combined won't buy you much.Jan 01 19:06
amarsh04brb, new kernelJan 01 19:06
Tim_property means nothing.Jan 01 19:07
XRevan86Tim_: Wait, I'm calculating whether that's enough to buy an apartments in the centre of Moscow.Jan 01 19:07
XRevan86* an apartmentJan 01 19:07
razielle_tzuwhere i am right now that would easily get you one of the bigger properties in the area, possibly a smaller one as wellJan 01 19:08
schestowitzmaintenance isn't a linear function of use of a vehicleJan 01 19:09
XRevan86Tim_: You actually can.Jan 01 19:09
XRevan86Tim_: You're rich :DJan 01 19:09
schestowitzand car sharing schemes, e.g. for you and your neighbours, also get promoted by the environment-consciousJan 01 19:09
Tim_no.  Not rich.  I would class rich as someone who can shop without looking at price....I'm not near that.Jan 01 19:09
MinceRcar sharing also has its share of problemsJan 01 19:09
MinceRlike when you'd both need the same vehicle at the same timeJan 01 19:10
XRevan86Ah, no, sorry, confused the number.Jan 01 19:10
XRevan86Tim_: You can't/Jan 01 19:10
schestowitzyeah, obviouslyJan 01 19:10
MinceRand people treating the vehicle carelessly because it's not solely their problem, maybe the other guy will fix itJan 01 19:10
schestowitzit's like this within some households/families, too :-pJan 01 19:11
amarsh04oops, new kernel not built yetJan 01 19:11
Tim_I think we should all buy Nissan Leafs.Jan 01 19:11
MinceRi think we should all decide based on our own needs and preferencesJan 01 19:12
razielle_tzui'd rather sort my physical issues out and ride my motorbikeJan 01 19:12
Tim_I was being sarcastic....if you ever drive one, you'll know what I mean.Jan 01 19:12
*schestowitz off to bedJan 01 19:12
Tim_goodnight!Jan 01 19:12
razielle_tzunight schestowitzJan 01 19:13
XRevan86schestowitz: Good night.Jan 01 19:13
XRevan86And good night :).Jan 01 19:14
MinceR:)Jan 01 19:14
Tim_I'm being tempted now with a game of World of Warcraft.....convo was brilliant btw...thanks to all...I've missed this.Jan 01 19:14
*XRevan86 loves to conversate too %).Jan 01 19:15
Tim_:)  IRC is one of the few remaining places where you can have a debate without it deteriorating into nonsense and insults...Jan 01 19:16
MinceRdependsJan 01 19:16
XRevan86Tim_: GNU social, XMPP, Diaspora*Jan 01 19:16
Tim_well here anyway.Jan 01 19:16
Tim_in techrightsJan 01 19:16
MinceRi know plenty of places on irc where debates tend to deteriorate into those pretty quicklyJan 01 19:16
XRevan86I've met a neoliberal in IRC once…Jan 01 19:17
Tim_I know some people hate it....but FB can actually be a great place for debate, depending on what you are talking about and where.Jan 01 19:17
XRevan86I shouldn't have told him I'm a socialist.Jan 01 19:17
MinceRfb is not a good place for communication, as it's controlled by a private company and it can't be forkedJan 01 19:17
Tim_well nothing I've talked about there is controlled...Jan 01 19:18
Tim_I can't really see the men in black being interested in soccer and wrestling.Jan 01 19:18
MinceRit isn't easy even to extract past conversations from it so you can keep it after fuckerberg throws it down the memory holeJan 01 19:18
XRevan86(it wasn't uncalled for, he was saying stuff about socialism ruining everything and stuff)Jan 01 19:18
Tim_Mincer: I'm not really interested in retrieving what I talked about years ago, even here.Jan 01 19:19
cubexyzwhoa, actual talking is happeningJan 01 19:19
Tim_yeah you've missed the majority!Jan 01 19:19
Tim_We've covered a plethora of topics in the last hour!Jan 01 19:19
Tim_Going back to FB....whats the alternative?  Diaspora?  Yep. been there....two problems: Not as many people and maybe more importantly, the people I want to communicate with are not there...Jan 01 19:22
XRevan86Tim_: GNU social is fun.Jan 01 19:22
cubexyzFB seems more universal but IRC is where I do most of my blah blahingJan 01 19:22
Tim_yes but is my boss on it and my family?Jan 01 19:22
XRevan86Tim_: The reason why GNU social is more fun than Diaspora* is because it's more inclusive.Jan 01 19:23
XRevan86Tim_: Why do you want to talk to them in a social network?Jan 01 19:23
Tim_but its not inclusive if the people I want to speak to don't have it or want it...Jan 01 19:23
Tim_any why do I want to talk to my family?  Here's an example...Jan 01 19:23
XRevan86Tim_: It has people you didn't know you wanted to talk with :).Jan 01 19:23
MinceRthere are many alternatives, including ircJan 01 19:24
Tim_My daughter was in the Xmas play at school...there was a video and my relatives want to see it.Jan 01 19:24
cubexyzah yes, IRCJan 01 19:24
Tim_thats one example...Jan 01 19:24
cubexyzthe thing we are all using right now :)Jan 01 19:24
Tim_xraven: IRC is full of people I don't want to talk to as well....they sometimes pop up in DM's trying to get me to click on links.Jan 01 19:25
cubexyzpeople do send me interesting links via FB so it's all goodJan 01 19:26
XRevan86Who's that raven guy?Jan 01 19:26
razielle_tzudunnoJan 01 19:26
Tim_I meant random people who I don't know.Jan 01 19:26
Tim_just like FB.Jan 01 19:26
MinceR:>Jan 01 19:26
Tim_So in the absence of anyone telling me how a debate about soccer or wrestling on FB is somehow ruined by the evil powers that be in FB...I'll stick with FB for those pages.Jan 01 19:27
XRevan86Tim_: I heard you like links: fsf.org :PJan 01 19:27
MinceRi'm not saying it's ruined, i'm saying it has all sorts of risks that i would avoid if i couldJan 01 19:27
MinceRi've seen plenty of complaints last year about such corporate sites blocking/filtering/removing all sorts of messagesJan 01 19:28
Tim_oh I do like links....and I've spent many years reviewing free software...even spent a year or so doing a podcast with Roy on free and opensource software.Jan 01 19:28
MinceRincluding shadowbansJan 01 19:28
XRevan86Tim_: It was the best link I could think of.Jan 01 19:28
XRevan86Tim_: Okay, here's the real stuff: gnu.io/socialJan 01 19:29
cubexyzI also use mailing lists :)Jan 01 19:29
Tim_I would always add a little propriety flavour to my linux distro's only because of prop gfx drivers.Jan 01 19:29
MinceR(though at least reddit's code is free sw, so you can run your own)Jan 01 19:29
MinceRso would iJan 01 19:30
XRevan86MinceR: Would be great if it'd federate.Jan 01 19:30
MinceRbut i at least try to be aware of what is nonfree and how to get along without itJan 01 19:30
MinceR(easier if it's kept to a minimum)Jan 01 19:30
Tim_Reddit is no example of the virtues of free sw.Jan 01 19:30
MinceRtheir conduct definitely isn'tJan 01 19:30
MinceRbut the code itself might be fineJan 01 19:30
XRevan86Tim_: https://mastodon.social/ how about this fancy thing?Jan 01 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social - MastodonJan 01 19:31
Tim_I'll check to see if the people I need to speak with are on there....Jan 01 19:32
Tim_oh hang on, they are not...Jan 01 19:32
XRevan86Tim_: It's fancy, so things can be arraged, no?Jan 01 19:32
XRevan86arrangedJan 01 19:32
cubexyzI really need to start archiving my amiga disksJan 01 19:33
cubexyzthey aren't going to last foreverJan 01 19:33
Tim_its great having an alternative but its worse than useless if the reason I use FB is not provided for by it and thats talking to my family and boss.Jan 01 19:33
Tim_.adfJan 01 19:33
XRevan86Tim_: Say to them something like 'Wikileaks, Snowden, Russian hackers, let's dump Facebook! Mastodon.'Jan 01 19:33
Tim_you not got a complete archive already?Jan 01 19:33
MinceR:)Jan 01 19:33
Tim_I've tried similar in the past....and here's the news flash...the mainstream do not care.  They have a need, they have a product and until the wheel comes off and it affects them personally they don't give anything else a moments thought.Jan 01 19:35
cubexyzprobably 80% of my amiga disks don't work... but it's replaceable with ADF files I've downloadedJan 01 19:35
XRevan86Tim_: Telegram gained its popularity in a month.Jan 01 19:36
cubexyzthe name brand disks mostly still work, the el cheapo ones don'tJan 01 19:36
MinceRthen the mainstream will keep suffering surprising blowsJan 01 19:36
Tim_yes..Jan 01 19:36
Tim_but the trouble is with the mainstream...Jan 01 19:36
Tim_there's millions of em.Jan 01 19:36
cubexyzI should fire up the ol' 500 for 2017Jan 01 19:36
Tim_yep do it!Jan 01 19:36
MinceR"i keep getting censored by twitter and facebook!" "yeah, if only there was some way to not give them the power to do so..."Jan 01 19:37
Tim_Workbench 1.3 best versionJan 01 19:37
XRevan86Tim_: People *can* migrate to other platforms. It's just that good people gave up.Jan 01 19:37
MinceRit's not that goodJan 01 19:37
MinceRwhat i saw of facebook was extremely annoyingJan 01 19:37
Tim_Xrevnan86: Can I ask you a question that you'll answer?Jan 01 19:37
MinceRlolJan 01 19:37
cubexyzha, yes it still has 1.3 on the hard driveJan 01 19:37
XRevan86Tim_: There's a whole bunch of questions that I'll answer.Jan 01 19:37
Tim_good...here's hoping...Jan 01 19:38
cubexyzquantum 49mb LP52S from 1990 :)Jan 01 19:38
Tim_Right would you agree or disagree that FB with its censorship (when it does happen) is a bad thing?Jan 01 19:38
cubexyzgot to say I'm happy with the amiga's longevity even though I don't use it muchJan 01 19:39
razielle_tzucubexyz: sameJan 01 19:39
Tim_I've still got an AROS rig.Jan 01 19:39
Tim_and an a500 and a1200Jan 01 19:39
cubexyzoh I ported the gamma function to the amiga a few months agoJan 01 19:39
razielle_tzui have two A600s :DJan 01 19:39
cubexyzthe lattice C library didn't have itJan 01 19:39
MinceRTim_: i'd agree it's a bad thingJan 01 19:40
XRevan86Tim_: Partially good as it kills Facebook. Which is a good thing %).Jan 01 19:40
MinceRbut i doubt that trying to force facebook to not do it is the best solution to itJan 01 19:40
XRevan86(I answered like that just for the heck of it)Jan 01 19:40
Tim_ok...and if you ran a social media site like facebook you'd not have any rules and allow people the freedom to post as they wish?Jan 01 19:40
cubexyzI got a big hard drive for archiving old computer magazinesJan 01 19:41
XRevan86Tim_: No, I'd made it federated and with rules.Jan 01 19:41
cubexyzI got about 100 gigs worth Jan 01 19:41
XRevan86Tim_: Just like… GNU social.Jan 01 19:41
XRevan86* I'd makeJan 01 19:41
Tim_so really then you are doing what fb are doing...providing a service with rules.  People do not have to agree with those rules and can go elsewhere if they wish....So really, your issue should not be with FB but the people who use it.Jan 01 19:42
XRevan86Tim_: No, my issue is purely with Facebook not being FOSS and being centralised.Jan 01 19:42
Tim_but to the average user (the majority) what difference does it make if FB is FOSS or not?Jan 01 19:42
cubexyzok now I can at least SEE the amiga 500, that's a good start :-/Jan 01 19:42
cubexyzah found my lightJan 01 19:43
XRevan86Tim_: It makes all the difference, whether they realise it or not.Jan 01 19:43
MinceRthe difference is whether they can jump ship if they don't agree with facebook's omission or alteration of their messagesJan 01 19:43
Tim_to the people who use FB in their millions and have no coding experience, what benefit would they get with it being FOSS?Jan 01 19:43
MinceRor other abusesJan 01 19:43
XRevan86Tim_: Control.Jan 01 19:43
MinceRalso whether others can keep maintaining the code they use if facebook goes under or somethingJan 01 19:43
XRevan86that they currently don't know they could haveJan 01 19:43
Tim_what control? How am I controlled by facebook?  I know about FOSS, I've been writing about it and using it for years....Jan 01 19:44
XRevan86Tim_: You just said you've been peer-pressured to use Facebook.Jan 01 19:44
MinceRif you use facebook to communicate with other people, facebook can change how those people perceive your communications, and thus, your imageJan 01 19:44
Tim_I spent many years exposing Microsoft Shills - ask roy...Jan 01 19:44
Tim_no I've not said peer pressured...Jan 01 19:44
XRevan86Tim_: It's because human social networks became wired over Facebook.Jan 01 19:45
Tim_my use of communication on FB is by need..Jan 01 19:45
MinceRthey can change what you say, they can silence youJan 01 19:45
XRevan86and so people gave Facebook controlJan 01 19:45
Tim_like if I had a betamax and they had VHS, I can either join them or stay secluded.Jan 01 19:45
XRevan86Tim_: Yeah, need. Peer-pressured need :PJan 01 19:45
Tim_Mincer: I've not had anything I've said changed.Jan 01 19:45
Tim_What is my control?Jan 01 19:45
MinceRor you just didn't noticeJan 01 19:45
Tim_Tell me how I'm controlled?Jan 01 19:46
MinceRiirc even msn dropped messages containing certain URLsJan 01 19:46
razielle_tzuyupJan 01 19:46
cubexyzok, it bootedJan 01 19:46
Tim_yes, but its common knowledge....even the mainstream know this about fb...they may not know what FOSS is, but its an open secret that it has monitoring and censorship.Jan 01 19:47
XRevan86like if I had USB and they had parented Lightning, I can either join them or stay secluded.Jan 01 19:47
XRevan86patentedJan 01 19:47
*XRevan86 is typoing like crazy.Jan 01 19:47
Tim_its not reasonable to try and retrain my entire family to use another platform just for simple family communication.Jan 01 19:47
razielle_tzufb's monitoring and censorship are supposed to be secret? it's pretty much spelled out in their terms and conditionsJan 01 19:48
XRevan86Tim_: And that's why Facebook will be used for all sorts of communications.Jan 01 19:48
Tim_and since my mother who can't use a computer uses FB on the smarttv...how is she supposed to join in with a FOSS platform?Jan 01 19:48
MinceRsuch acceptance of surveillance and censorship will bite us in the ass somedayJan 01 19:48
XRevan86MinceR: It does bite constantly.Jan 01 19:48
MinceRthe "smart"tv is a computerJan 01 19:48
XRevan86But people instantly don't care about the bitten.Jan 01 19:49
MinceRit will bite harderJan 01 19:49
Tim_Mincer: I think you knew what I meant.Jan 01 19:49
MinceRshe might be able to use a tablet or touchscreen phone, or a web interfaceJan 01 19:50
XRevan86Tim_: 'peer pressure' means that your social circle forces its decisions on you.Jan 01 19:50
Tim_no it doesn't.Jan 01 19:50
Tim_I can not talk to them by leaving.Jan 01 19:50
cubexyzwow, that hard drive is quite noisyJan 01 19:50
XRevan86Tim_: A decision to stick with Facebook resulted in masses having to use exactly it.Jan 01 19:50
Tim_but I've asked you to highlight how I'm controlled or censored by facebook and you can't do it.Jan 01 19:50
XRevan86and facebook is only happy to make the tie only strongerJan 01 19:51
razielle_tzuthe shape everything you see outside of your friends or fan pages by observing what you likeJan 01 19:51
razielle_tzu*theyJan 01 19:51
Tim_so what are you doing to help the leave FB cause?Jan 01 19:51
MinceRTim_: then read up on how it is believed facebook influenced election results :>Jan 01 19:51
XRevan86Tim_: If you use 'the feed' then they control what information you get.Jan 01 19:51
MinceRi promote free technologies to my friendsJan 01 19:52
Tim_I don't need to Mincer...Its common knowledge...Jan 01 19:52
Tim_Twitter did the sameJan 01 19:52
Tim_and if everyone was on Diaspora it would have happened there.Jan 01 19:52
MinceRso we can do it, apparently :>Jan 01 19:52
XRevan86Tim_: And you indirectly support Facebook by using it and expecting others to use it (peer pressuring them %)).Jan 01 19:52
razielle_tzui pretty much just use the chat api (which they've changed a few times) to talk to my friends and family that are on it. i'm rarely on the site itselfJan 01 19:52
MinceRif everyone was on diaspora, it would be easy to fix it if it happenedJan 01 19:52
Tim_there's no point influencing the masses on a platform where the masses are not.Jan 01 19:52
XRevan86Tim_: So if you're not censored then you help them censor somebody else.Jan 01 19:52
XRevan86Tim_: There was a point when Facebook had only 1 user.Jan 01 19:53
cubexyzwhen did FB appear?Jan 01 19:53
Tim_Xrevan: Where have I expected others?  You are not my family and I've indicated no desire to talk to you or anyone here on facebook.  All I mentioned was that in the groups I talk in (soccer and wrestling) I have seen no such restrictions and can't beleive there would be any.Jan 01 19:53
cubexyz2004ish?Jan 01 19:54
razielle_tzufeb 4th 2004Jan 01 19:54
XRevan86There's no point in leaving MySpace, and least that is certain.Jan 01 19:55
XRevan86* at least // jeezJan 01 19:55
Tim_Xrevan86 - And you can give me millions of examples of how the average user using FB for the same type of purposes has been censored?  I want to see this proof not just fly away comments.Jan 01 19:55
cubexyzI tried to get back on myspace and I can't remember anything about it Jan 01 19:55
razielle_tzui still have a myspace account but can't remember the last time i used itJan 01 19:55
XRevan86Tim_: Prols are not interesting to Ingsoc.Jan 01 19:55
XRevan86Tim_: Only the Party members are supplied with Telescreens.Jan 01 19:56
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XRevan86Tim_: Just be sure to only discuss soccer and wrestling.Jan 01 19:57
XRevan86Tim_: And tell others to do the same.Jan 01 19:57
Tim_Well I've spoken about other topics too....you're not on it so you wouldn't know about the thousands of posts where people highlight the issues with FB...they don't seem to be censored either.Jan 01 19:58
XRevan86Tim_: I've seen people doing the worst.Jan 01 19:59
XRevan86Tim_: Discussing politics on Facebook.Jan 01 19:59
Tim_well thats known....Jan 01 19:59
XRevan86Tim_: You know that!?Jan 01 19:59
Tim_there's even jokes about it.Jan 01 19:59
XRevan86That's no soccer, you know.Jan 01 19:59
Tim_yes...people expressing a political view getting their post deleted.Jan 01 20:00
MinceR02 015536 < XRevan86> Tim_: Prols are not interesting to Ingsoc.Jan 01 20:00
MinceRi'm not so sureJan 01 20:00
XRevan86And what about all those hate speechers?Jan 01 20:00
MinceRthey might not be able to afford to supply the proles with telescreensJan 01 20:00
XRevan86MinceR: That's actually a semi-quote from the book :).Jan 01 20:00
Tim_exactly....what would you do?  Censor or not censor a hate speaker?Jan 01 20:00
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XRevan86Tim_: MinceR mentioned the Russian blashphemy law above.Jan 01 20:01
XRevan86Tim_: It's literally 'hate speech'.Jan 01 20:01
MinceRXRevan86: think what would happen if the inner party noticed a rebellion in the ranks of the prolesJan 01 20:01
XRevan86Tim_: Even the same arguments were used when passing the law.Jan 01 20:01
Tim_Xrevan86: No its a good point...What would you want?  Do you want hate speach censored or not censored?Jan 01 20:01
cubexyzoh well, the amiga 500 works, the hard drive works but the ol' 1080 is on it's last legsJan 01 20:01
razielle_tzuuncensored but flagged as such?Jan 01 20:02
XRevan86Tim_: Actually, I don't want the social network to decide what morality is.Jan 01 20:02
Tim_right...so what if that speach is encouraging harm on others?  Still not censor?Jan 01 20:02
Tim_You answer like a politician btw.Jan 01 20:02
MinceRi would notJan 01 20:02
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Tim_Ok, Mincer, I'll await Xrevans answer then address that.Jan 01 20:03
razielle_tzuwelcome back amarsh04Jan 01 20:03
XRevan86Tim_: It's debatable whether posts in Internets can really harm anybody.Jan 01 20:03
Tim_answer the question.Jan 01 20:03
cubexyzAmiga 1080 CRT made in nov 1985Jan 01 20:03
Tim_If you are going to play politician I won't bother.Jan 01 20:04
amarsh04so kernel 4.10-rc2 works on my old pc, just need to rebuild it for my new pcJan 01 20:04
MinceRthough i suppose there's a line there where i would start being interested in silencing them or otherwise reacting to the speech -- for example if it turns out to be planning of a murderJan 01 20:04
MinceRit could turn up as evidenceJan 01 20:04
XRevan86Tim_: Yes, it's the group moderator that should do the legwork.Jan 01 20:04
MinceRalso, privacy can also be violated via speechJan 01 20:04
cubexyzmoderation is OKJan 01 20:04
Tim_So would you censor or not?  Just needs an answer.  Mincer managed to answer.Jan 01 20:04
cubexyzI moderated my blog's comments Jan 01 20:04
MinceRit's probably not an easy question to answerJan 01 20:05
cubexyzmost of them are spammyJan 01 20:05
Tim_of course and you are well within your rights.Jan 01 20:05
MinceRalso, one could consider that what facebook (or another similar site) publishes is facebook's own speech and they should be able to decide what to publish on their siteJan 01 20:05
XRevan86Tim_: C'mon, you're forcing me to work in a field of a centralised network when I already said that's fundamentally crap.Jan 01 20:05
Tim_Right.. You won't answer.Jan 01 20:05
MinceRwhich of course brings us to the necessity of using self-hostable free software for such communication insteadJan 01 20:05
XRevan86Tim_: How did you know I'm a politician? My full name is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.Jan 01 20:06
Tim_Mincer...who did answer, you mention line...thats censorship right there (if you want to go down a "freedom" line)Jan 01 20:06
MinceRlolJan 01 20:06
MinceRTim_: not sure what you're referring toJan 01 20:06
Tim_Xrevan: I just said you sound like a politician, not answering the question and swerving away with another statement.Jan 01 20:07
XRevan86Tim_: Because I believe that statement is good enough.Jan 01 20:07
Tim_yep.  So would Trump or Cameron.Jan 01 20:08
Tim_its fine. Not an issue.Jan 01 20:08
XRevan86Tim_: With decentralised networks you can have 'nodes' with different rules.Jan 01 20:08
cubexyzhmmm, there was Legend of Kyrandia for amigaJan 01 20:08
Tim_Xrevan: I don't recall that being part of the question I asked you.Jan 01 20:08
XRevan86Tim_: One node admin can even ban you, and if that's unjust ('selling out'), he'll just be ditched.Jan 01 20:08
Tim_or that.Jan 01 20:08
XRevan86Tim_: Different nodes, different rules. Rules, morality control, stuff.Jan 01 20:09
Tim_or that.Jan 01 20:09
XRevan86Facebook, eine rules.Jan 01 20:09
Tim_Mincer - what I meant was or the point I was making, we all would exercise censorship, be it on your site/blog etc.  As long as the rules are known then its fine, people have a choice...they don't have to use a service.Jan 01 20:10
XRevan86With a network like Facebook censorship is unacceptable because it's inevitably be serving powerful men.Jan 01 20:10
MinceRwell yes, people should have a choice and they should be aware that they have a choiceJan 01 20:10
cubexyzI don't really have much in the way of source code archives for amigaJan 01 20:10
razielle_tzugranted but how many people ACTUALLY read the t&c's of a site when joining up?Jan 01 20:10
cubexyza few printouts onlyJan 01 20:11
XRevan86With a network like Diaspora* 'censorship' is perfectly acceptable.Jan 01 20:11
Tim_so you'd advocate indecent images being shared by perverts on FB in the spirit of freedom then would you Xrevan?Jan 01 20:11
MinceRhow does the sharing of indecent images harm anyone?Jan 01 20:11
razielle_tzudepends, are the "models" of legal age and consented to the images being made?Jan 01 20:12
XRevan86Tim_: Indecent images like Muslim women without hijabs?Jan 01 20:12
Tim_Politician.  I think you know the images in question here.Jan 01 20:12
XRevan86Tim_: Gay ones?Jan 01 20:13
razielle_tzuso anything deemed nsfw by fb's standardJan 01 20:13
XRevan86Vote for me. I'll let the gay people be.Jan 01 20:13
MinceRis fb's "standard" even public?Jan 01 20:13
razielle_tzunopeJan 01 20:13
MinceR:>Jan 01 20:13
cubexyzI can't remember ever seeing NSFW images on FBJan 01 20:13
Tim_You either believe in censorship or not. You can't say well thats ok but thats not, then claim you advocate freedom. Jan 01 20:13
XRevan86cubexyz: They ban nipples indeed.Jan 01 20:14
razielle_tzuthere are some community standards for private groups which allow nsfw images to be shared but they tend to take down ones that are posted directly to the wall (assuming someone or a bot notices them)Jan 01 20:14
Tim_Xrevan knows exactly what type of image I refer to.  Its an avoidence technique to get out of answering.Jan 01 20:14
MinceRTim_: freedom has many facets and they can come into conflict with each otherJan 01 20:14
XRevan86Tim_: Facebook will always push it a bit further, won't they?Jan 01 20:14
Tim_no....you either have freedom of speech and expression or you do not...if you censor nothing then you do, if you censor even a minority of material then you do not.Jan 01 20:15
cubexyzanother nice thing about the 600 is the PCMCIA connectorJan 01 20:15
XRevan86Tim_: I'm not an absolutist you know.Jan 01 20:15
cubexyzthen you can add a PCMCIA card and so wirelessJan 01 20:15
MinceRin that case, nobody will ever have freedom of speech and expressionJan 01 20:15
Tim_freedom of expression is absolute.  I'm surprised you'd see it any other way.Jan 01 20:15
XRevan86Tim_: And as I said above, it's because Facebook is centralised censorship is such a problem.Jan 01 20:15
XRevan86Vote for me, BTW.Jan 01 20:16
MinceRis freedom of expression always the highest priority of all freedoms?Jan 01 20:16
XRevan86I'm not on the ballot, just write me in.Jan 01 20:16
razielle_tzufreedom of expression on any social media is allow as free as the management allow it to beJan 01 20:16
Tim_exactly Mincer and for anyone to advocate it would mean acceptance of that which I think we can all agree is appalling material.Jan 01 20:16
MinceRalso, what if the messages of two people interfere with each other?Jan 01 20:16
cubexyzIRC is basically uncensored...Jan 01 20:16
cubexyzunless you manage to get kicked :)Jan 01 20:16
MinceRTim_: i'm not worried about appalling material, i'm worried about infringements on the freedoms of other people.Jan 01 20:17
razielle_tzuthat don't apply to online comms unless the people running it allow themJan 01 20:17
Tim_so if on your site this material appeared, you'd not remove or ban?Jan 01 20:17
cubexyzI think XRevan86 is worried about complete corporate controlJan 01 20:17
XRevan86Tim_: You know how you can hate speech on Facebook? Write 'There's no god.' in comments of a post made by some random religious bloke.Jan 01 20:17
Tim_thats cruel.Jan 01 20:17
MinceRTim_: depends on the nature of "my site" and how it got thereJan 01 20:18
Tim_really?Jan 01 20:18
MinceRpossibly also on other factorsJan 01 20:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Unless it's my complete corporate control. Vote for me and the only corporate control you'll have will be mine.Jan 01 20:18
MinceRwell, consider if "my site" is my personal blog with no comment sectionJan 01 20:18
MinceRvs. "my site" is a traditional social networking siteJan 01 20:18
razielle_tzufacebook and the like are private entities and so are under no obligation at all to allow freedom of speech or expressionJan 01 20:18
Tim_I cannot believe that a decent person would allow their site/product to facilite such filth if they had the powers to stop it.Jan 01 20:18
XRevan86They'll be of a high moral standards, so nothing to worry.Jan 01 20:18
MinceRTim_: what sort of filth?Jan 01 20:18
MinceRchild porn?Jan 01 20:19
XRevan86Trolling.Jan 01 20:19
Tim_yes. and trolling yes - to an extent.Jan 01 20:20
Tim_if a person filled up the comments section on your article with thousands of posts of "I am a fish" you'd leave that in place disrupting the conversation of others?Jan 01 20:20
MinceRthat issue is severely mishandledJan 01 20:20
MinceRin that case i'd probably remove the "I am a fish" postsJan 01 20:21
razielle_tzui'd leave it just for the dwarf referenceJan 01 20:21
Tim_and thats censorship.Jan 01 20:21
MinceRthey can talk about how they're a fish on their own blogJan 01 20:21
Tim_lol raz - you know!Jan 01 20:21
Tim_Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.Jan 01 20:21
MinceRi'm not obliged to give anyone a channelJan 01 20:21
Tim_nope you are not.Jan 01 20:22
cubexyzah red dwarf you mean... took me a sec thereJan 01 20:22
XRevan86Did I mention federated networks already?Jan 01 20:22
MinceRand my readers also have no obligation to listen to themJan 01 20:22
razielle_tzuof course i know it, i'm a brit... also early dwarf is best dwarfJan 01 20:22
cubexyzit isJan 01 20:22
Tim_Arnold Rimmers exam paper "I am a fish".Jan 01 20:22
MinceR:)Jan 01 20:22
cubexyzConfidence and Paranoid :)Jan 01 20:22
razielle_tzubetter than the handprint examJan 01 20:22
XRevan86Vote for me and I'll make Esperanto the second language. Arnold Rimmer approved.Jan 01 20:22
MinceRas for child pron, allegedly the issue is human rights violations involved in the _production_ of such materialJan 01 20:22
MinceRtherefore they should go after the production of such materialJan 01 20:22
cubexyzuh, paranoia :)Jan 01 20:23
MinceRnot after its disseminationJan 01 20:23
MinceRlet along making up shitty excuses for building national systems of censorshipJan 01 20:23
cubexyz1988, just one year later than the amiga 500 :)Jan 01 20:23
razielle_tzu:)Jan 01 20:23
Tim_but you'd agree it would need to be removed from whatever site/service it appeared on, wouldn't you?Jan 01 20:23
razielle_tzui keep forgetting how old dwarf is... i feel so young in comparisonJan 01 20:23
MinceRit gets extra ridiculous when they start claiming that hand-drawn and computer-generated images infringe on human rights in the same wayJan 01 20:23
MinceRTim_: depends on the site/serviceJan 01 20:24
Tim_there is a God anyway...its the one that made Marah Carey look like a muppet on live tv.Jan 01 20:24
Tim_sorry just caught a news article on TV.Jan 01 20:24
XRevan86Okay, don't vote for me. I'll go to bed anyway.Jan 01 20:24
MinceRTim_: for example, what if the service in question was about publishing information on the basis of which you can filter out such content on the client side?Jan 01 20:24
razielle_tzunonono... Lister is God, he jump started the second Big Bang with jumper cables from StarbugJan 01 20:24
cubexyzCraig Ferguson as Confidence, lolJan 01 20:24
cubexyzdidn't realize until this yearJan 01 20:25
XRevan86Why am I forced to say what kind of censorship policy a technology like Facebook should have?Jan 01 20:25
cubexyzI watched one of the later episodes and thought "what the heck is this?"Jan 01 20:25
cubexyzthen I broke out the VHS tapesJan 01 20:25
XRevan86It's like saying an anarchist 'So, what laws should a state pass for you to be satisfied?'Jan 01 20:25
razielle_tzui've seen it all and love series one to six... after that it got sillyJan 01 20:25
MinceR:)Jan 01 20:26
MinceRXRevan86: the one that abolishes said state? :>Jan 01 20:26
XRevan86MinceR: Exactly.Jan 01 20:26
Tim_Mincer, I'm not talking about services filtering out clientside, I'm talking about the moral decision of removing such material.  I think any decent person would remove it whether it could be filtered or not.  Or have I got that wrong?  Are there people happy to leave it in situe and let others filter it out?Jan 01 20:26
XRevan86And I'm supposed to say what policy should Facebook have.Jan 01 20:26
MinceRTim_: what does it have to do with morals?Jan 01 20:26
XRevan86Facebook should be friggin' federated and FOSS!Jan 01 20:27
cubexyza lot of the British comedy was goodJan 01 20:27
XRevan86after that they can do whatever the heck they wantJan 01 20:27
Tim_well because if you have the ability to remove that which is appalling and don't.  It that not now, past an issue of censorship and more a moral decision?Jan 01 20:27
razielle_tzushould be but won't happenJan 01 20:27
MinceRTim_: and what does the dissemination of porn have to do with morality?Jan 01 20:28
Tim_I'm sorry, but if I strongly find something appaling and have the ability to do so, I'll remove.Jan 01 20:28
XRevan86and that's my take on itJan 01 20:28
XRevan86Without this Facebook will just be what it is now.Jan 01 20:28
MinceRTim_: i don't mind if you do so on your siteJan 01 20:28
MinceRno need to be sorryJan 01 20:28
Tim_Well for the person who asks that question nothing at all.Jan 01 20:28
MinceRthough i suppose if it shows private areas of the subject who did not agree to it, then it could be a privacy issueJan 01 20:29
cubexyzif you really want old watch Duck SoupJan 01 20:29
Tim_there should come a time when people actually stand up for what they believe in.  If as a consequence that involves censorship then so be it.Jan 01 20:29
MinceRnot that there's anything anyone can do about that -- see Streisand effectJan 01 20:29
XRevan86Бога нет.Jan 01 20:29
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MinceRTim_: what if they believe in no censorship?Jan 01 20:29
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Soup_%281927_film%29Jan 01 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Duck Soup (1927 film) - WikipediaJan 01 20:30
cubexyzsorry about the % stuffJan 01 20:30
MinceRthe % stuff is fine, it's easier to handle than exotic characters in a URI :>Jan 01 20:30
Tim_then thats for them to justify. I'm not interested though in "them" I'd here what you think.Jan 01 20:31
MinceRi said what i thoughtJan 01 20:31
MinceRthe Internet is currently a free medium, and i think people should maintain it as such and take advantage of itJan 01 20:32
Tim_but I'm not clear what you would do. You've given alternatives, you've not said directly what you would do.Jan 01 20:32
MinceRwhich includes setting up your own site with the message you want to spread if you're blocked from doing so on someone else's site/serviceJan 01 20:32
Tim_I hope then you've had words with Roy when he's banned people from this group.Jan 01 20:32
cubexyzdon't forget we lost a lot of control when cable PVRs locked everything downJan 01 20:32
MinceRwhat's "this group"?Jan 01 20:32
Tim_#techrights?Jan 01 20:32
cubexyzwe used to be able to 'share the tapes'Jan 01 20:33
cubexyznow we can'tJan 01 20:33
MinceRi don't think that Roy or anyone else has an obligation to provide for anyone to advertise anything on this channelJan 01 20:33
MinceRor to flood itJan 01 20:33
Tim_it wasn't advertising.Jan 01 20:33
Tim_it wasn't floodingJan 01 20:33
MinceRwell, we had abuses of all sortsJan 01 20:33
Tim_it wasn't abuse.Jan 01 20:33
Tim_it was a chap called Michael Glasser.Jan 01 20:33
cubexyzhaven't seen flooding or trolling in here in quite a whileJan 01 20:34
MinceRi don't remember that guyJan 01 20:34
Tim_the ban I agree with completely.Jan 01 20:34
Tim_he was annoying...he distorted truths, but as for the things you mention, he did none of that.Jan 01 20:34
MinceRif someone wants to, they can start their own channel on this network, on another network, on their own ircd or network, or on another service, still on the same InternetJan 01 20:34
cubexyzthe bad behaviour seems to be decreasing actuallyJan 01 20:34
Tim_and Mincer thats exactly my point...people don't have to use FB they can start their own....but people are not interested.Jan 01 20:35
cubexyzI've been meaning to buy a DVR for antenna but haven't found one I really like Jan 01 20:35
MinceRpeople probably aren't aware of what FB is doing, or that there's a WWW outside FB, or that they could jump ship or start their own siteJan 01 20:35
Tim_because unlike the freedom campaigners, people are not putting the value on their information that others do.  They don't care.  You can't make them care.Jan 01 20:35
MinceR(let alone that there's Internet outside WWW)Jan 01 20:35
Tim_and rightly or wrongly, most people have the mindset "well I'm not doing anything wrong so whats the point of being concerned?"Jan 01 20:36
MinceRwell, it would be easier if people who genuinely didn't care admitted that they don't careJan 01 20:36
Tim_they doJan 01 20:36
MinceRthen those people are still wrong, in this society you can easily get burnt for not doing anything wrongJan 01 20:36
cubexyzyeah there's gopher and nntp :)Jan 01 20:36
MinceRthe way the web is going, gopher is looking more and more attractiveJan 01 20:37
Tim_ok...give me one example of an average user who after posting pictures of aunt mable has found themselves foul of something.Jan 01 20:37
MinceRi don't know of suchJan 01 20:37
MinceRand in some cases they won't even noticeJan 01 20:37
Tim_eh?  Surely there are thousands of examples showing how the common man (or women) is being dealt an evil blow by FB.Jan 01 20:38
cubexyzoh yeah, remember Overbite?Jan 01 20:38
MinceRfor example, corporate surveillance can result in them getting charged more for a product or service they really need, without them finding outJan 01 20:38
MinceRi think i had overbiteJan 01 20:38
cubexyzI wonder if that still worksJan 01 20:38
Tim_Mincer - thats business.Jan 01 20:38
MinceRi don't have a gopher extension in palemoon thoughJan 01 20:38
Tim_and it doesn't just use FB.Jan 01 20:38
MinceRTim_: yes, the business of privacy infringementJan 01 20:38
MinceRand FB is a pretty good platform for thatJan 01 20:39
Tim_how do you know there is not a bot here monitoring what you say for marketing?Jan 01 20:39
MinceRit doesn't even need to be hereJan 01 20:39
MinceRprobably a lot of users connect unencryptedJan 01 20:39
*cubexyz rechecks his addonsJan 01 20:39
Tim_well yes Roy keeps his logs and publishes them (or used too anyway)Jan 01 20:39
MinceRbut connecting what i say here to my identity is not going to be so easyJan 01 20:39
Tim_really?Jan 01 20:39
Tim_Doesn't Roy publish it?Jan 01 20:39
MinceRyes, he doesJan 01 20:39
MinceRbut i'm pseudonymousJan 01 20:39
Tim_hidden IP too?Jan 01 20:40
MinceRand freenode doesn't pester me to tell them my real name or my phone numberJan 01 20:40
MinceRit's currently hiddenJan 01 20:40
cubexyzso you don't use FB at all then MinceR ?Jan 01 20:40
Tim_you tried setting up a fb account on a false name using a proxy.....rather simple.Jan 01 20:40
MinceRwell, i view images on fbcdn sometimesJan 01 20:40
Tim_so whats the difference?Jan 01 20:40
MinceRand very rarely look at profiles via TorJan 01 20:40
MinceRTim_: freenode and Roy aren't deliberately trying to compromise my privacy, or force stuff on me that i don't wantJan 01 20:41
MinceRcompare this to FB's conductJan 01 20:41
MinceRconsider fuckerberg's statements about his usersJan 01 20:41
Tim_Mincer - thats the result of a popular platform...Jan 01 20:41
MinceRthen you'll see why i trust FB a lot less than freenodeJan 01 20:41
Tim_if Diaspora had taken off, you'd get the same marketting there.Jan 01 20:41
MinceRplus if freenode did something foul, it's easy to move to another irc network or even run my ownJan 01 20:42
cubexyzI'm glad we have freenodeJan 01 20:42
Tim_except there would be no centralised control of it.Jan 01 20:42
MinceRit isn't so easy to do that with FBJan 01 20:42
MinceRtheir code is nonfreeJan 01 20:42
MinceRagain, with diaspora, anyone can run their own podJan 01 20:42
Tim_you don't need code to scrape the groups and pages of information.Jan 01 20:42
MinceRand modify and share the codeJan 01 20:42
MinceRwell yes, with any public website you have to be careful what information you disseminateJan 01 20:43
cubexyzthere really aren't many working gophere sitesJan 01 20:43
MinceRindeedJan 01 20:43
cubexyzgopher://gdead.berkeley.edu/Jan 01 20:43
cubexyzthere's that oneJan 01 20:43
cubexyzand overbite is still aroundJan 01 20:44
MinceRTim_: also, this isn't just about diaspora and irc and gnu socialJan 01 20:44
MinceRthere's also tox, ricochet, webrtcJan 01 20:44
MinceRfreenetJan 01 20:44
Tim_well the convo was about FB and alternatives...the alternatives to FB all share the same issue....number of users.Jan 01 20:44
MinceRi2p, torJan 01 20:44
cubexyzguess the bot doesn't bother with gopher sites :)Jan 01 20:44
MinceRnot everything that happens on FB has to be done via a social networking websiteJan 01 20:44
Tim_agreed...but it is, so thats that.Jan 01 20:45
cubexyzwell there's still quite a lot of traffic on google groupsJan 01 20:45
Tim_oh god. really?Jan 01 20:45
cubexyzand I still use knode sometimesJan 01 20:45
cubexyzsureJan 01 20:45
MinceRoh, there's also CablesJan 01 20:45
MinceRi should start using it somedayJan 01 20:45
Tim_at least get a Usenet reader.Jan 01 20:45
cubexyzknode yeah :)Jan 01 20:45
Tim_I've no issue with GG getting a slice of Usenet pie, but at least give people the ability to post within threads properly.Jan 01 20:46
Tim_you can always tell a GG user.Jan 01 20:46
cubexyzI use nntp.aioe.orgJan 01 20:46
cubexyzas well :)Jan 01 20:46
cubexyzalt.sys.pdp11 don't yaknowJan 01 20:47
cubexyzalso sci.electronics.repairJan 01 20:47
Tim_I blame GG and its naff groups for the death of some groups that were rendered unreadable by GG.Jan 01 20:47
Tim_*groups softwareJan 01 20:47
Tim_and after my 2 years with ChromeOS I will never use Google products again.Jan 01 20:48
cubexyzmaybe try crouton?Jan 01 20:48
MinceRafaik you can boot chromebooks off an sd cardJan 01 20:48
MinceRordinary gnu/linux, for exampleJan 01 20:49
MinceRmay need developer mode thoughJan 01 20:49
Tim_yeah and be limited to a chromebook with inferior specs that actually isn't any cheaper than a better spec'd laptop?Jan 01 20:50
cubexyzfirmware source don't forgetJan 01 20:50
MinceRand get to use a chromebook that isn't infested with uefiJan 01 20:51
MinceRand possibly even intel ME is tamed in itJan 01 20:51
MinceRand not pay microsoft taxJan 01 20:51
MinceRbut yeah, the SSDs in them aren't particularly bigJan 01 20:53
Tim_10gig in my case....Jan 01 20:53
cubexyzhow big can a regular SD card be?Jan 01 20:53
MinceRi've seen ones with 64GBJan 01 20:53
Tim_128 I thinkJan 01 20:54
MinceRregular SD? i have 2 128GB onesJan 01 20:54
MinceRbut there were bigger ones, of course for ridiculous amounts of moneyJan 01 20:54
Tim_that wouldn't have made it any better.Jan 01 20:54
MinceRnot sure how big microSDs get, i think i have a 64GB microSDJan 01 20:54
Tim_I'm pleased to have got rid of it.Jan 01 20:55
Tim_awful.Jan 01 20:55
Tim_it had no redeemable features at all.Jan 01 20:55
Tim_terrible confession - at the moment I'm using Windows 10Jan 01 20:56
MinceRlolJan 01 20:56
Tim_only on this laptop I hasten to add.Jan 01 20:56
MinceRand you speak of how bad chromebooks are :>Jan 01 20:56
Tim_well it may be windows 10 on a laptop, but its out performing and more functional than that chromebook ever was.Jan 01 20:57
Tim_I can actually do things on this.Jan 01 20:57
MinceRyeah, so can the NSA :>Jan 01 20:57
MinceRbut at least microsoft sometimes lets you do stuff on "your" laptop :>Jan 01 20:58
Tim_well if they are interested in World of Warcraft (which is what I use it for) then all the best to them.Jan 01 20:58
Tim_maybe the NSA can help me get my engineering skill levelled up?Jan 01 20:58
MinceRthey're not interested in helpingJan 01 20:59
MinceRthey're in it for the destruction and the powerJan 01 20:59
Tim_well then if they hinder the others (the horde) that would helpJan 01 20:59
MinceRthat's why they betrayed their own citizens, after allJan 01 20:59
Tim_maybe that explains the level 40 druid that slaughtered me the other day when I was better equiped.Jan 01 20:59
MinceRah yes, the classic accusation of "h4x"Jan 01 21:00
Tim_I'm going to blame the NSA now.Jan 01 21:00
MinceRsame thingJan 01 21:00
Tim_just watching the Carey meltdown on TV...never gets old that.Jan 01 21:01
Tim_well I think its time for bed... Great convo Mincer (as always) I'll keep the NSA in mind tomorrow morning and maybe equip another bottle of health potion...Jan 01 21:03
MinceR:)Jan 01 21:03
MinceRgn Tim_ Jan 01 21:03
Tim_gn mate.Jan 01 21:03
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cubexyzwow, windows 10?Jan 01 21:06
cubexyzhe was trolling at the end thereJan 01 21:06
razielle_tzuprobablyJan 01 21:07
cubexyzyou want firmware source you got PMON, Openboot and corebootJan 01 21:14
cubexyzchromebooks are actually the easiest route to corebootJan 01 21:15
cubexyzlike, I don't want to have to deal with a surface mounted bios chipJan 01 21:16
cubexyzI don't know what I'm going to get with a laptop these daysJan 01 21:20
cubexyzup to 2004, no problem...Jan 01 21:21
cubexyzafter that... not sureJan 01 21:21
cubexyzSeb actually was on the right track with the Ultra 5 :)Jan 01 21:24
cubexyztoo bad he didn't stick with itJan 01 21:24
cubexyzif you really must run Wow there's wineJan 01 21:25
cubexyzbut honestly, I don't like BlizzardJan 01 21:26
cubexyzno surpise there...Jan 01 21:26
razielle_tzui'm not a fan eitherJan 01 21:27
cubexyzat least LGP did proper portsJan 01 21:29
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cubexyznot sure if wine does directX 11Jan 01 21:29
cubexyzthe firmware problem is still very bigJan 01 21:31
cubexyzthe funny thing is we actually did fix some bugs in the linux portsJan 01 21:33
cubexyzwhich never got backported to the windows versionJan 01 21:33
cubexyzbut it's quite a dead end... any additional bug fixes I make I can't share with anyoneJan 01 21:34
cubexyzI'm not even sure who controls the IP nowJan 01 21:34
razielle_tzu:/Jan 01 21:34
cubexyzoh yeah, Paradox Interactive took it over back in 2007Jan 01 21:35
razielle_tzuall i know of paradox are some of the games they own/publishedJan 01 21:36
cubexyzit's not all bad news thoughJan 01 21:37
razielle_tzulike cities: skylinesJan 01 21:37
cubexyzMagicka 2 was for linux, or at least there was a linux portJan 01 21:37
cubexyzprobably on SteamJan 01 21:37
razielle_tzuskylines has a linux port and afaik did from the startJan 01 21:37
razielle_tzui really like it, it's what sim city should have become :DJan 01 21:38
cubexyzI'm really behind the times on linux gamingJan 01 21:38
razielle_tzui don't really game on linux, mostly borderlands and left 4 dead 2 with friends... for solo stuff i have a windows 8 partition with a load of steam games installedJan 01 21:39
cubexyzok :)Jan 01 21:40
cubexyzI appreciate honesty :)Jan 01 21:41
razielle_tzuthe other games i play, mostly things like the Dawn of War series, don't have linux ports and don't play well with wineJan 01 21:41
cubexyzno android gaming?Jan 01 21:42
razielle_tzuthe closest to that are the Zombies! Run appsJan 01 21:42
cubexyzI only play Pinball Arcade on android actuallyJan 01 21:44
cubexyzand I've make a pest of myself to Farlight's tech supportJan 01 21:44
cubexyzit's the IRDA stuffJan 01 21:45
razielle_tzui use my phone and tablet to read or listen to stuff otherwise they're pretty much left alone unless i get a message through to one of themJan 01 21:45
cubexyzmy streamer (Mygica) is connected to the HDTVJan 01 21:46
cubexyzI really should buy another HDMI screen Jan 01 21:47
razielle_tzui have an imedia tablet i could hook up to the tv as well as a galaxy tab but they're mostly used when it's too dark to read my kindle and i don't want to disturb my partnerJan 01 21:47
cubexyzalso SteamOS has the UEFI firmware _recommended_ which I'm not thrilled aboutJan 01 21:48
razielle_tzu:/Jan 01 21:48
cubexyza non-exploding one I hope :)Jan 01 21:49
razielle_tzuyeah it's one of the first genJan 01 21:49
cubexyzI have no idea why UEFI firmware is recommendedJan 01 21:51
cubexyzmaybe for large hard drive supportJan 01 21:53
razielle_tzumaybeJan 01 21:54
cubexyzeh, just tried Arcane Legends and didn't much like itJan 01 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Releases ISO Snapshot 2017.01.01.0Jan 02 03:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/qedRnifTMa (solus-project.com)Jan 02 03:15
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TweetTuxMachines                 "Fedora is so far the first system in which I managed toJan 02 03:18
TweetTuxMachines                 get everything running." https://t.co/RgJkYpmJ39Jan 02 03:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.10-rc2 https://t.co/9K271e5Xy0 (lkml.iu.edu)Jan 02 03:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815836147205177345Jan 02 03:29
TweetTuxMachines                 A Guide To Buying A Linux Laptop https://t.co/zsKnRYlwDLJan 02 03:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | A Guide To Buying A Linux LaptopJan 02 03:29
cubexyza bit of a pityJan 02 03:29
cubexyzI was hoping to get some real 'work' done tonightJan 02 03:30
cubexyzinstead, I only did work workJan 02 03:30
razielle_tzui was hoping to have at least part of an assignment done by now but all i have is some notesJan 02 03:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815837269521301504Jan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Some of the smallest Linux distributionsJan 02 03:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Releases ISO Snapshot 2017.01.01.0Jan 02 03:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815837821449605121Jan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.10 RC2 https://t.co/ealVaAEAbxJan 02 03:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815837829980766208Jan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines                 A Guide To Buying A Linux Laptop https://t.co/5z2EcZm4zxJan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/l3mnSnY3IJJan 02 03:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Guide To Buying A Linux Laptop | Tux MachinesJan 02 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: A Guide To Buying A Linux Laptop https://t.co/5z2EcZm4zx https://t.co/l3mnSnY3IJJan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815837839153774592Jan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Some of the smallest Linux distributionsJan 02 03:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PhZGbEri3F (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 02 03:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some of the smallest Linux distributions | Tux MachinesJan 02 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Some of the smallest Linux distributions https://t.co/PhZGbEri3F https://t.co/YoGUnp6j4KJan 02 03:32
cubexyzoh no, not another guide to buying a linux laptop :-/Jan 02 03:32
razielle_tzuisn't it the same guide but just on a different website?Jan 02 03:32
cubexyzcould be :)Jan 02 03:32
razielle_tzuyup, it isJan 02 03:34
razielle_tzuword for wordJan 02 03:34
razielle_tzuone is just a blurb and links to the otherJan 02 03:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815837842458849280Jan 02 03:36
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/w3TKAkomCmJan 02 03:36
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cubexyzI got distracted by windows 7 questions earlier todayJan 02 03:39
cubexyz"will windows 7 run on a 2007 computer"Jan 02 03:41
razielle_tzuo.OJan 02 03:42
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cubexyzso I ended up suggesting buying a HP MARS refurb DC7900Jan 02 03:43
cubexyzcomes with windows 7 you see :)Jan 02 03:44
cubexyzfor $150Jan 02 03:44
razielle_tzufairJan 02 03:44
cubexyzreally wasn't sure if win7 would run on his machine, not knowing which video card he hadJan 02 03:45
razielle_tzuunderstandable thenJan 02 03:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Steam and SteamOS https://t.co/ub9gAGNL2JJan 02 06:05
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schestowitzMinceR: no laughs today? :-pJan 02 08:16
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schestowitzMinceR: Hungary government withdrawing from OGP https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/158103Jan 02 10:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 "A notebook that TLW uses was the last machine in ourJan 02 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 house to run Ubuntu GNU/Linux" https://t.co/V7Ns0qK3kUJan 02 10:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 KDE releases beta of Kirigami UI 2.0Jan 02 10:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kGKKgdsolk (dot.kde.org)Jan 02 10:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/3Qsh3JUzlDJan 02 10:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 KDE releases beta of Kirigami UI 2.0Jan 02 10:37
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TweetTuxMachines                 Neptune 4.5.3 Release https://t.co/r9tZPOquXlJan 02 10:37
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TweetTuxMachines                 Neptune 4.5.3 Release https://t.co/kmNHlWFy7aJan 02 10:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815945203035099136Jan 02 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Getting Cozy with Fedora https://t.co/GVfo3jGoGJJan 02 10:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815946675730739200Jan 02 11:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Fossil Echo, a beautiful looking story-driven platformerJan 02 11:03
TweetTuxMachines                 should come to Linux soon https://t.co/oEQLyYtudBJan 02 11:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jan 02 11:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fossil Echo, a beautiful looking story-driven platformer should come to Linux soon | GamingOnLinuxJan 02 11:03
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TweetTuxMachines                 The 5 best Linux gaming consoles to check outJan 02 11:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4AlU1805S5 (windowsreport.com)Jan 02 11:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsreport.com | The 5 best Linux gaming consoles to check outJan 02 11:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815951912692580354Jan 02 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 “Clear Linux” By Intel — The Next Great Linux Distro ForJan 02 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Gaming? https://t.co/XN4Uf1i5Hm (error)Jan 02 11:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815953833637474304Jan 02 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 7 notable legal developments in open source in 2016Jan 02 11:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815953837261398021Jan 02 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.10-rc2 https://t.co/PqoJ7sIb8fJan 02 11:12
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TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/CF4KJ33JCnJan 02 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815960596675956737Jan 02 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 2/1/2017: Neptune 4.5.3 Release, Netrunner DesktopJan 02 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 17.01 Released https://t.co/9Wo66KPW7g (techrights.org)Jan 02 11:46
TweetTuxMachines Jan 02 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815962498511687680Jan 02 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/w5BGDBCmFpJan 02 11:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 02 11:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815962500936015874Jan 02 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/0xFbjwXFzJJan 02 11:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux MachinesJan 02 11:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/815962502391480320Jan 02 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/9YFCGzPY7XJan 02 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 02 11:47
TweetTuxMachines Jan 02 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesJan 02 11:47
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJan 02 13:50
razielle_tzuhaiJan 02 13:51
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, hiJan 02 13:51
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, well lap top eve more mssed up now os wise :DJan 02 13:52
SebthreeBQM10HDwas going to re installJan 02 13:52
SebthreeBQM10HDanyway butJan 02 13:52
SebthreeBQM10HD1. had lost the Windows 8.1 usb a paid hp one Jan 02 13:52
SebthreeBQM10HDit turned up other day :DJan 02 13:52
SebthreeBQM10HD2. now upgraded a bit of a messed up 16.04 ubuntu install to 16.10 which just made stuff a bit worse really Jan 02 13:52
SebthreeBQM10HDno working firefox for example nowJan 02 13:53
SebthreeBQM10HDwon't openJan 02 13:53
SebthreeBQM10HDsince how it sbeen compid or I don't knowJan 02 13:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, gnome is now broken tooJan 02 13:53
razielle_tzulol gnomeJan 02 13:53
SebthreeBQM10HDI like GNOME :)Jan 02 13:53
SebthreeBQM10HDlxde opended up, but the browser htere won't workJan 02 13:53
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I had done some I dont know whwat quite for unity 8 in 16.04 beforeJan 02 13:54
SebthreeBQM10HDmore than just running a ppaJan 02 13:54
razielle_tzuso use a terminal, purge firefox and reinstall itJan 02 13:54
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, the whole install has certain issuesJan 02 13:54
SebthreeBQM10HDso it's better ot just re installJan 02 13:54
SebthreeBQM10HDand the windows on there has some malware I ThinkJan 02 13:54
razielle_tzualso stick to an LTS releaseJan 02 13:54
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, h eh no wayJan 02 13:54
SebthreeBQM10HDand when I set this thing up nexxt timeJan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDit's going to be done properlyJan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDand I am quad booting too :DJan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDyes quad bootingJan 02 13:55
razielle_tzuwhy?Jan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's the plan!Jan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDsince I can andJan 02 13:55
razielle_tzui get dual or triple but why quad?Jan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDWindows 8.1  I put on firstJan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDupgrade to 10Jan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDthen I want Ubuntu 16.10 on there, MageiaJan 02 13:55
SebthreeBQM10HDand I am thinking lets give FEdora a try again since wayland on real hardwareJan 02 13:56
SebthreeBQM10HDFedora 25 yeahJan 02 13:56
razielle_tzuprepare for lots of broken stuffJan 02 13:56
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat with wayland fedora ?Jan 02 13:56
SebthreeBQM10HDwayland and fedoraJan 02 13:56
razielle_tzufedora generally tbhJan 02 13:56
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I Want 16.10 for the unity 8 sessionJan 02 13:56
razielle_tzuit's bleeding edge for a reasonJan 02 13:56
SebthreeBQM10HDotherwise yeah 16.04 and 16.10 not that much differnce reallyJan 02 13:56
razielle_tzubut an lts release is almost certain to workJan 02 13:57
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, indeed I started with FedoraJan 02 13:57
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I was thinking of maybe upgrading to 17.04 alpha;/beta but now I ma mre  oike nah probably notJan 02 13:57
SebthreeBQM10HDfinal is aprilJan 02 13:57
SebthreeBQM10HDI can vm it anywayJan 02 13:57
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also I Want to do this Microsfot scam speech some howJan 02 13:58
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, that general idea has been way too long alreadyJan 02 13:58
SebthreeBQM10HDdidn't do a speech at all as a result last year 2016 at my public speakig group hmmJan 02 13:58
SebthreeBQM10HDI want to do at least one a year ideallyJan 02 13:58
SebthreeBQM10HDuntill I done the 10Jan 02 13:58
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I think if faking the cal people raen't going to get it unless geeksJan 02 13:59
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, so better to just generally talk about it I guess,  play some clips even,  I guess even show a messed up windows xp in virtualbox swith a blue screen of death, fake anti virus etc ?Jan 02 13:59
SebthreeBQM10HDgeneraly talk about scams, helping people, that partiuclar scam, what they aim to do,  how techiees get a laugh out of it, and mess with them back etc ?Jan 02 13:59
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, lay man won't just understand geek hemourJan 02 14:01
SebthreeBQM10HDsee what I mean?Jan 02 14:01
SebthreeBQM10HDplus there's a quite serious side to it as wellJan 02 14:01
SebthreeBQM10HDpeople fall for that scam,  lose money, perosnal data info etcJan 02 14:01
razielle_tzueveryone i know just listens for a while and then says "so where's the start menu for Ubuntu?"Jan 02 14:02
SebthreeBQM10HDoh h ehJan 02 14:02
SebthreeBQM10HDwell giev them lxde xfce or cinnmaon or even kde thenJan 02 14:02
SebthreeBQM10HDnot sure about kde 5 but I guess it still has the menuJan 02 14:02
razielle_tzuthey all /know/ where it is but that's what they say to scammers on the phoneJan 02 14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDohJan 02 14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how do I make that into a speechJan 02 14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I can't fake a indian voice enough as well :dJan 02 14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDat all reallyJan 02 14:03
razielle_tzuno ideaJan 02 14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDbut more seriously some peope could find that offensve if I could and didJan 02 14:03
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, if I only have  7 minutes for a speechJan 02 14:04
SebthreeBQM10HDand I do a fake call trying to make shorter expaling some bits that's most of the time up alreadyJan 02 14:04
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, plus I want people to undertand what the blue screen of death is about etcJan 02 14:04
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich takes some explainingJan 02 14:04
razielle_tzumost people will have experienced one by nowJan 02 14:04
SebthreeBQM10HDand I say to the samemrs well didJan 02 14:04
SebthreeBQM10HDthat the sceen went blue etcJan 02 14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I am thinking a XP vm, that blue sceens of death on the projeterJan 02 14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDfake anti virus saying some virussesJan 02 14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDand auto matially re boots after a whileJan 02 14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's the kind of picture that woul be giving to the scamer on a callJan 02 14:05
SebthreeBQM10HDand iit's even better I think to say XP when playing scammer, since that's not been supproted sine april 2014Jan 02 14:06
SebthreeBQM10HDmention  real hustle etcJan 02 14:06
SebthreeBQM10HDgenreal scam bit a bitJan 02 14:06
SebthreeBQM10HDask people if they been scammer, or scamemd someone etc I GuessJan 02 14:06
SebthreeBQM10HDtalk about my eperienes of those calls a bit etcJan 02 14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, start off about my title,  at begiign,  yep need a goo beginign middle and end, and doneJan 02 14:07
razielle_tzui once got bored and reversed a botnetJan 02 14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDh eh did you ?Jan 02 14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDreversed, you mean like vn  c listenJan 02 14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDconnecting back into it ?Jan 02 14:07
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, its the Linu people who motly ifnd it funny to play the mirosocamemr scamer in genreal I guessJan 02 14:08
razielle_tzuthey used a vanilla mirc install that was hidden... all i had to do was look in the server info for it and i could take it overJan 02 14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDsince we use a better os :DJan 02 14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDI might do a llike discalijmer thing in there some whereJan 02 14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDno I don't hate WIndows....Jan 02 14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, if I got  a vm like I was saying up on projecter, I could ike a windows hater or something soJan 02 14:08
SebthreeBQM10HDlook likeJan 02 14:09
*SebthreeBQM10HD uh plan is to load up windows on that lap top soon, and prepare to get some data off of itJan 02 14:09
razielle_tzunot really, using an XP installation in a vm is the safest way to do it... just don't allow network bridging for that oneJan 02 14:09
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, you mean for connecting back to the bot net?Jan 02 14:10
razielle_tzuyesJan 02 14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDand indeed some people use vm's to mess with the scammer as well, let them connect and see what they do etcJan 02 14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, people may not know so muh about remote connect in generalJan 02 14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDso I should asy something toJan 02 14:10
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, how you may use it to help your family with their computer when far away, or to connect back home from the office, since forgot to bring a document etcJan 02 14:11
SebthreeBQM10HDbut really any computer in the world or pretty much can be remote conected to,  if someone lets someone inJan 02 14:11
SebthreeBQM10HDvia InternetJan 02 14:12
razielle_tzutrueJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and it's not hackingJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich is actsaully crafking since media has it wrongJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDand as far as I know it's perfectly legal always to remote connect since  someone else has let someone in Jan 02 14:12
razielle_tzuin most cases it's actually social engineering since they convince someone to do the installation for themJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDwell they trick someone to go on some remote connect thingJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDon one of those calls for example yeahJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDshowmypc.com or somethingJan 02 14:12
SebthreeBQM10HDgive them the code andJan 02 14:13
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, what do you mean the installation ?Jan 02 14:13
razielle_tzuphone scammers aren't crackers because they don't break anything themselves. they talk people through an installation of the virus, trojan, whatever is being used to gain accessJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDindeedJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDget them on the website and do that etcJan 02 14:14
razielle_tzuyeahJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDand they use something legal to gain access to the computerJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDremote connection softwareJan 02 14:14
razielle_tzuthey're basically getting invited inJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDthat the user of the computer has allowed them access withJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDexactlyJan 02 14:14
SebthreeBQM10HDinvited inJan 02 14:15
razielle_tzuthey're like vampiresJan 02 14:15
SebthreeBQM10HDand somemtesi you get people who come to #ubuntu who want to remote connect as wellJan 02 14:15
SebthreeBQM10HDmake it easier for people to help with ubuntu etcJan 02 14:15
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's a good waht's thew ord analogyJan 02 14:15
SebthreeBQM10HDlike a vampireJan 02 14:15
SebthreeBQM10HDinvited in  like vampiresJan 02 14:15
SebthreeBQM10HDyou let a vampire into your hojme, and something bad is likely to happen, but I don't need to say that :DJan 02 14:16
SebthreeBQM10HDexactly social enginnering is the phone scamJan 02 14:16
SebthreeBQM10HDI think I'll just genarlly talk about the scam and stuff realted to it as  wellJan 02 14:17
SebthreeBQM10HDand play some clips from real calls from youtube or something, and have m yvmJan 02 14:17
SebthreeBQM10HDlets show virtualbox :D for two reasonsJan 02 14:17
razielle_tzua hacker (if you're ignoring the original meaning) bypasses stuff and looks around without breaking or stealing, a cracker bruteforces their way in and doesn't care about damages so long as they can do/get what they wantJan 02 14:17
SebthreeBQM10HDa hacker if h eh to the bracketsJan 02 14:18
SebthreeBQM10HDI should say something about thatJan 02 14:18
SebthreeBQM10HDI like the correct term thingJan 02 14:18
SebthreeBQM10HDmedia being wrong etcJan 02 14:18
razielle_tzui'm a hackerJan 02 14:18
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, Windows is mostly for the ignorantsJan 02 14:18
SebthreeBQM10HDshops i.ke PC world take advantage of that tooJan 02 14:18
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu,  h eh I went there last week, since wanted some screen cleanerJan 02 14:19
SebthreeBQM10HDand as expected Jan 02 14:19
SebthreeBQM10HDa guy there tried to get me to buy the more expensive one a bitJan 02 14:19
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, also anti virus is a bit of a conJan 02 14:19
SebthreeBQM10HDthinking of saying something like thatJan 02 14:19
razielle_tzuno one in any pc store has ever tried that with meJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDin fact in my speechJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, well it was the one with moreJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDbutJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDthe smller one was fine enoughJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDand I used the wipes that was fine, he said wipes wasn't as goodJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, anti virus is a precauationJan 02 14:20
SebthreeBQM10HDit's to late if your infected with the right thing alreadyJan 02 14:21
SebthreeBQM10HDyour  computer is already part of a botnet or whateverJan 02 14:21
razielle_tzueh, a lot of stuff in labs is ignored by most antiviruses and there are too many false positives for patches for games and the likeJan 02 14:21
SebthreeBQM10HDand not all anti viruses pick up on all virusese, new viruses every day and other malwwareJan 02 14:21
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, exactly so anti virus sin't that great at allJan 02 14:21
razielle_tzumost viruses NEVER make it out into the wildJan 02 14:22
SebthreeBQM10HDbut Microsoft doesn't actsally call people up saying their computer is infected etcJan 02 14:22
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I  guess I want them to know why for techies it's funny to play the scammer or can beJan 02 14:23
SebthreeBQM10HDbut that actsally it's quite serous thisJan 02 14:23
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat happens if someone goes along with it etcJan 02 14:23
SebthreeBQM10HDI miss having a call like thatJan 02 14:24
SebthreeBQM10HDour number chnged about a year and a half agoJan 02 14:24
SebthreeBQM10HDso quite in general nowJan 02 14:24
SebthreeBQM10HDwas good on a     boring, what to do day, toget one :DJan 02 14:24
razielle_tzuyeahJan 02 14:24
SebthreeBQM10HDit's mostly linux users I think that are in general going to find it funny to mess with the microsoft scammerJan 02 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDI could explain a little  bit about whyJan 02 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I could also say that Linux sin't compelt,y perfect but...Jan 02 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDI could metion a kernel panic rather rare butJan 02 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's the equivliant of the blue screen of deathJan 02 14:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I am just thinking depending on how it's done, going to look like a Windows hater, or a Linux fan boy or somethingJan 02 14:26
razielle_tzuone of my friends is an avid windows user but if he gets a call like that and doesn't ask where the start button is on linux he'll type the address he's given into a source code viewer and then forward the name of anything set to auto run to meJan 02 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDneither was the intentionJan 02 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, oh to what you putJan 02 14:26
SebthreeBQM10HDLinux isn't immune to stuff distros hence updatesJan 02 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yes  more seucre in generalJan 02 14:27
SebthreeBQM10HDals oI think I did get a kernel panic like once or twice beforeJan 02 14:27
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razielle_tzuunless there's a bug in something the kind of access that people would want requires priviledge escalation of some kind, which requires passwordsJan 02 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDindeedJan 02 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDmaybe I do a basic seucrity thingJan 02 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDin this speech toJan 02 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDloolking at linux to ?Jan 02 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDand mac ?Jan 02 14:28
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, anyway when I was learing or trying to remeber since a guy ahd told meJan 02 14:29
SebthreeBQM10HDhow to do a vnc listenJan 02 14:29
SebthreeBQM10HDI wen to some irc chnnelJan 02 14:29
SebthreeBQM10HDhere on freenodeJan 02 14:29
SebthreeBQM10HDa few years back nowJan 02 14:30
SebthreeBQM10HD2008 ?Jan 02 14:30
SebthreeBQM10HD2007?Jan 02 14:30
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and soon after guess what happended?Jan 02 14:30
razielle_tzussh attack?Jan 02 14:31
SebthreeBQM10HDnopeJan 02 14:31
SebthreeBQM10HDsuddenly this windows xp came upJan 02 14:31
SebthreeBQM10HDon my screenJan 02 14:31
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, and deltree or whatever the command is, got ran, and it got deletedJan 02 14:31
SebthreeBQM10HDand it was a bit like what the at firstJan 02 14:32
SebthreeBQM10HDbut then he was like in irc, well you had the ports open soJan 02 14:32
SebthreeBQM10HDand he thought it was  funnyJan 02 14:32
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, so yeah he  remoted me into a  xp vm Jan 02 14:32
razielle_tzulolJan 02 14:33
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, indeed that's a funny story isn't it?Jan 02 14:33
SebthreeBQM10HDoh right no geeks may not thinik so, or they might if they folow m yspeech and I mentionJan 02 14:33
SebthreeBQM10HDnon geeks aboveJan 02 14:33
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I think I'll go for ageneral disucssion type thingJan 02 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDa general thingJan 02 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDthere 7 minutes goneJan 02 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDspeech doneJan 02 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDrelated to the scam and remote connedting and things like thatJan 02 14:34
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yeah I know full well what they want to do, remote connect, or get sooen to give card number onsome site,  ah yes and thre was that time I Had  her on for a good hour or so, and  I am getting bored, she's really wanting card numberJan 02 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDI am having a laugh,  not thinking what they really look like at this stage, so I am like 100 200 300,  and she's like arae you messing with meJan 02 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDand I ma like yeah, I know what you are doingJan 02 14:35
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I guess once people have an idea waht blue screen of death is and remote connecting,  I can get into about the scam calls Jan 02 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDsay some stories to do with thatJan 02 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDreal calls I Had beforeJan 02 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDetcJan 02 14:36
SebthreeBQM10HDend off with some kind of conslusion, and I got a title joke thing to do as well :D speech title at begining as wellJan 02 14:37
razielle_tzuxDJan 02 14:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I guess the goal is to make them awre of that sam, what it's about, the intention of it etc,  and also why techies may find it funny to mess with he scammerJan 02 14:38
SebthreeBQM10HDplus I'll be saying how  I don't think it's right to sam people etcJan 02 14:38
SebthreeBQM10HDand asking people if htey been scammed, or scammed sojmeone and such :dJan 02 14:38
SebthreeBQM10HDthat should do itJan 02 14:38
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, the firs time I got a call I had my Ubuntu support hat on or something,  oh that's ilelgal what you are doingJan 02 14:39
SebthreeBQM10HDnearly said they should be ashame of them selves on phone etcJan 02 14:39
SebthreeBQM10HDbut then someone or more on ric was like, you should mess with them, or say you run LinuxJan 02 14:39
SebthreeBQM10HDand did that second itme, and yes it was funJan 02 14:39
SebthreeBQM10HDbut it was also sad  th guy would ring from a call centre,  you hear other potential victums, singing on phone etcJan 02 14:40
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, if I hve vioce clips I can set scene better as to how a call like that really goesJan 02 14:40
SebthreeBQM10HDis likeJan 02 14:40
SebthreeBQM10HDI am thinkingJan 02 14:41
SebthreeBQM10HDand genrally talk about things, and have the vm as wellJan 02 14:41
SebthreeBQM10HDthat sounds good what you think ?Jan 02 14:41
razielle_tzusounds fine to meJan 02 14:41
SebthreeBQM10HDotherwise i can try and do a fake call, but won't quite have the same effectJan 02 14:41
SebthreeBQM10HDand there's a saying a picture has a miilion words?Jan 02 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDwell a vm would a well then :dJan 02 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, not enough time to fake a call plus epxlain thingsJan 02 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDin like 7 minutesJan 02 14:42
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, this gives me rason to set up my lap top too 1Jan 02 14:43
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, h eh I could use my pocket and gpd win Jan 02 14:46
SebthreeBQM10HDeven for voice clipsJan 02 14:46
SebthreeBQM10HDtake out only when wanting toJan 02 14:46
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razielle_tzusorry SebthreeBQM10HD i had to explain to my brother why he can't use an rf cable for his n64 on a modern tvJan 02 15:27
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/WUKvhJan 02 17:24
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cubexyzwell, I thought I knew all the modules for FC1 but no...Jan 02 17:55
cubexyzthere's binfmt_miscJan 02 17:55
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cubexyzyeah, it's around in 2.6.27.29Jan 02 17:59
cubexyzsome people are using it to run exe files on linux (mono stuff)Jan 02 18:00
cubexyzkind of a security hazard thoughJan 02 18:02
cubexyzbut on the other hand, I don't know unix v5 100% either and it is far simpler than FC1Jan 02 18:03
cubexyzanother interesting one is 'eeprom'Jan 02 18:06
cubexyzpart of the sensors packageJan 02 18:06
cubexyzone can actually access i2c devices via userspace as wellJan 02 18:11
cubexyzI think the i2c stuff is just a serial bus for low speed ICsJan 02 18:14
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/6fWLgJan 02 18:25
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cubexyzstrictly speaking it's using the SMBus, not i2cJan 02 18:27
MinceRhow is binfmt_misc a security hazard?Jan 02 18:28
cubexyzwell it could allow exe files to run at the command lineJan 02 18:29
cubexyzas long as the exe isn't malware it should be OKJan 02 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDI deleted Windows 10!Jan 02 18:30
cubexyzgood man :)Jan 02 18:30
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz,  h ehJan 02 18:33
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz, also my UBuntu install is even more messed up, I will re install things tommorowJan 02 18:33
cubexyzI'm kind of using ubuntu but only obliquelyJan 02 18:34
SebthreeBQM10HDcubexyz, oh how come?Jan 02 18:35
cubexyzI use it on crouton for testing purposesJan 02 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HDwhats cruton and testing of what?Jan 02 18:35
SebthreeBQM10HDI am quad booting toommrow :DJan 02 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDor ok my take two days to set up Jan 02 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDmayJan 02 18:36
cubexyzcrouton is Chromium OS Universal Chroot :)Jan 02 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDohJan 02 18:36
cubexyzso I'm running chromeos and Linux simultaneouslyJan 02 18:36
SebthreeBQM10HDohJan 02 18:37
SebthreeBQM10HDhow?Jan 02 18:37
cubexyzwell first I run the crosh shell...Jan 02 18:37
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cubexyzfrom crosh I run a bash shellJan 02 18:38
cubexyzfrom the bash shell I run the Xserver :)Jan 02 18:38
cubexyzmind you, one doesn't have to run the Xserver at allJan 02 18:39
cubexyzI can just fart around in bash and do command line stuffJan 02 18:39
cubexyzscp, ssh, wget, etcJan 02 18:40
cubexyzI guess I could have KOed chromeos, but I want everything so... :)Jan 02 18:41
cubexyzit's a bit weird as the bash shell is actually inside the browserJan 02 18:42
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/A0eekAi.jpgJan 02 18:47
MinceR03 002910 < cubexyz> well it could allow exe files to run at the command lineJan 02 18:47
MinceRwouldn't #! do something similar without binfmt_misc?Jan 02 18:47
MinceRor even a wrapper scriptJan 02 18:47
cubexyzI think binfmt_misc is more for wine and java Jan 02 18:49
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cubexyzemulators and virtual machines, stuff like thatJan 02 18:50
cubexyzsupport for interpreter directives was a Unix v8 thingJan 02 18:52
cubexyze.g. perl and python etcJan 02 18:52
MinceRregardless, i can't see how it's more dangerous than thoseJan 02 18:54
MinceRunless it allows setuid root in some insecure way or somethingJan 02 18:54
MinceR(iirc #! doesn't allow setuid root)Jan 02 18:54
cubexyzsome security people use tripwire to monitor binfmt_misc stuffJan 02 18:57
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cubexyzmost people probably won't bother running exe's at the command line I would thinkJan 02 19:00
MinceRway too many wouldJan 02 19:00
MinceRvia mono, of courseJan 02 19:00
MinceRoh, well, those people tend to be afraid of the command lineJan 02 19:00
MinceRso i guess notJan 02 19:00
cubexyzgames via wine mostlyJan 02 19:00
MinceRthe best games run natively :>Jan 02 19:01
cubexyzwell yeah :)Jan 02 19:01
cubexyzI had a one-line script like this: /usr/bin/wine lolg95.exeJan 02 19:01
cubexyzso I really don't need binfmt_miscJan 02 19:02
cubexyzsometimes I use dosbox to run some old programs I wroteJan 02 19:03
MinceRi use dosbox to run some old programs other people wroteJan 02 19:04
cubexyzI'm just working my way through all the LKM's and learning about themJan 02 19:06
cubexyzI don't think I even used binfmt_misc at allJan 02 19:06
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cubexyzinteresting that scientists are actually talking about a 1 nm gate sizeJan 02 19:56
cubexyzcomputers .... maybe 1000 times more powerful than 15 years ago?Jan 02 19:57
cubexyzbut they still suck :)Jan 02 19:58
cubexyz15 years agoJan 02 20:03
cubexyz2002... a lot of my computers are 2002 or olderJan 02 20:03
cubexyzthe zaurus has the oldest LCDJan 02 20:04
cubexyzno waitJan 02 20:05
cubexyzthe IBM R30 thinkpad is 2001Jan 02 20:05
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cubexyzit's not in good shape thoughJan 02 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 LinuxAndUbuntu Distro Review Of The Week - Ubuntu MATEJan 03 05:55
TweetTuxMachines                 16.10 https://t.co/ieZtaphGsQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 05:55
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/LWpngUgqYDJan 03 06:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816237991840595968Jan 03 06:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Distro Review Of The Week - Ubuntu MATE 16.10Jan 03 06:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/W3l5V5RfOI (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Jan 03 06:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816241314064986112Jan 03 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0: a faint shadow of name Jan 03 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jdrQWPXE7m (linuxblog.darkduck.com)Jan 03 06:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816242251508682752Jan 03 06:30
TweetTuxMachines                 What Are The Differences Between Ubuntu Official Flavors?Jan 03 06:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5LZIwkV2p5 (www.ubuntubuzz.com)Jan 03 06:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | What Are The Differences Between Ubuntu Official Flavors?Jan 03 06:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816245244022767616Jan 03 06:30
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.0: a faint shadow of nameJan 03 06:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eM9g50MZ1f (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 06:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.0: a faint shadow of name | Tux MachinesJan 03 06:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816245270337851392Jan 03 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 What Are The Differences Between Ubuntu Official Flavors?Jan 03 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6CVj9WSUwb (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/UjV0kCqY49Jan 03 06:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Are The Differences Between Ubuntu Official Flavors? | Tux MachinesJan 03 06:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: What Are The Differences Between Ubuntu Official Flavors? https://t.co/6CVj9WSUwb https://t.co/UjV0kCqY49Jan 03 06:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816247596595421188Jan 03 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 KDevelop 5.1 Beta 1 releasedJan 03 06:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BJq292yOaw (www.kdevelop.org)Jan 03 06:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kdevelop.org | KDevelop 5.1 Beta 1 released | KDevelopJan 03 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 17.04 Skips First Alpha for Opt-In Flavors,...'Jan 03 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 17.04 Skips First Alpha for Opt-In Flavors,...'Jan 03 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Netrunner Desktop 17.01 'Baryon' Debian 9 Stretch-based KDE...'Jan 03 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ridiculously small Linux build lands with ridiculously few...'Jan 03 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816251316032995328Jan 03 07:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Qualcomm accidentally reveals the Asus ZenFone AR, theJan 03 07:00
TweetTuxMachines                 newest Tango phone https://t.co/YIZfapU3JsJan 03 07:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jan 03 07:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Qualcomm accidentally reveals the Asus ZenFone AR, the newest Tango phoneJan 03 07:00
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@foxandfriends @WLTaskForce @seanhannity Another major blow to #fakenews...'Jan 03 07:06
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TweetTuxMachines                 Development News https://t.co/2S2t8Nww7VJan 03 08:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816281226860314625Jan 03 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/d6GmWvP1ejJan 03 08:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 03 08:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/iBBzsCLYI8Jan 03 08:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816281230652022786Jan 03 09:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics https://t.co/P2PwSqRdVtJan 03 09:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux MachinesJan 03 09:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816290029097996288Jan 03 09:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/7bllH4xXHmJan 03 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816290031094534144Jan 03 09:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Phones and TIzen https://t.co/8U3R5u9oToJan 03 09:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phones and TIzen | Tux MachinesJan 03 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/UV6X2l2NT5Jan 03 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816290035662098432Jan 03 09:28
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/qMozA4DQluJan 03 09:28
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/7J41rJan 03 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More pics that will make you do a double-take - Album on ImgurJan 03 09:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816290138263355392Jan 03 09:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/1/2017: Microsoft Imposing TPM2 on Linux, ASUSJan 03 09:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Bringing Out Android Phones https://t.co/szQ5jm3sIbJan 03 09:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jan 03 09:32
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/5oUyG3L.jpgJan 03 10:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/816313532618866693Jan 03 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz I saw RMS`s open letter. Did not know how bad it was.Jan 03 11:08
schestowitzMinceR: niceJan 03 11:08
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TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/vPWibImR29Jan 03 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/lNOfBnWXkwJan 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 12:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein We have #clinton to thank for. She...'Jan 03 12:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816330719983271937Jan 03 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Podcast App Podbird Celebrates Birthday With NewJan 03 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Release https://t.co/fLa83aGwo7 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jan 03 12:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Podcast App Podbird Celebrates Birthday With New Release - OMG! Ubuntu!Jan 03 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816331607875452929Jan 03 12:15
TweetTuxMachines                 #Cutelyst 1.2.0 released https://t.co/7OmYdMSlVhJan 03 12:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (dantti.wordpress.com)Jan 03 12:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dantti.wordpress.com | Cutelyst 1.2.0 released – Dantti's BlogJan 03 12:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816336325997686784Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Finding an Alternative to Mac OS XJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3508p5zk0o (bitcannon.net)Jan 03 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816343902659563520Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Finding an Alternative to Mac OS XJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3czNySkBhE (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bZ3Bj6WML7Jan 03 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X | Tux MachinesJan 03 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Finding an Alternative to Mac OS X https://t.co/3czNySkBhE https://t.co/bZ3Bj6WML7Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816343906233163776Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux CVEs https://t.co/bkmMCTWEsFJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux CVEs | Tux MachinesJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816343908409970688Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/iNVVvxO0qQJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816343912017072129Jan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Servers News: OpenStack, Containers, and HPCJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VCUGNtSBF5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers News: OpenStack, Containers, and HPC | Tux MachinesJan 03 13:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816343914604949504Jan 03 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Crippled by Microsoft (TPM) and Graphics StackJan 03 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LNcdeTdKo0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Crippled by Microsoft (TPM) and Graphics Stack | Tux MachinesJan 03 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816343917775835136Jan 03 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Software: Analytics, Cutelyst, Podbird, and FirefoxJan 03 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ZQ3QRmHu88 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Analytics, Cutelyst, Podbird, and Firefox | Tux MachinesJan 03 13:03
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @Snowden At the NSA when you don't...'Jan 03 13:19
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/DnxlhJan 03 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deadpool and ironfist teamup - Album on ImgurJan 03 13:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816362261098835969Jan 03 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 LeEco wants you to ride its Android-powered smartJan 03 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 bicycles https://t.co/hrtdCo0q6I (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GxGq82XxVRJan 03 14:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LeEco wants you to ride its Android-powered smart bicycles | Tux MachinesJan 03 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: LeEco wants you to ride its Android-powered smart bicycles https://t.co/hrtdCo0q6I https://t.co/GxGq82XxVRJan 03 14:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816362269768491008Jan 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source Software's Top Five Challenges for 2017Jan 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/L2RJQzj82K (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 03 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/f8jgiXADB8Jan 03 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Software's Top Five Challenges for 2017 | Tux MachinesJan 03 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source Software's Top Five Challenges for 2017 https://t.co/L2RJQzj82K https://t.co/f8jgiXADB8Jan 03 14:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@kupajo322 @wikileaks @BarackObama Oh, here comes the Birther...'Jan 03 14:58
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SebthreeBQM10HDYAY re installs of wINDOWS  well soonJan 03 15:19
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schestowitzMinceR: you seem to be like DeadpoolJan 03 16:09
schestowitzI didn't like the trailer, never watched the movie or bothered with the cartoonsJan 03 16:09
schestowitzChina also banned the movie for excessive violenceJan 03 16:09
MinceRi haven't seen the movie yetJan 03 16:10
razielle_tzudeadpool is great (both the movie and the comics)Jan 03 16:11
razielle_tzuthe cartoons are kinda meh though because they had to tone everything downJan 03 16:11
SebthreeBQM10HDschestowitz MinceR razielle_tzu deadpool was okJan 03 16:12
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Entrance_to_the_pier,_Bournemouth,_England,_1890s.jpgJan 03 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Entrance to the pier, Bournemouth, England, 1890s.jpg - WikipediaJan 03 16:12
razielle_tzui've liked deadpool since about the second year of his comics and had been waiting for a movie for about 8 years by the time it was finally doneJan 03 16:13
SebthreeBQM10HDohJan 03 16:13
MinceRi've liked the comics ever since i was aware of themJan 03 16:13
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BournemouthJan 03 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bournemouth - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qaeyh ]Jan 03 16:13
schestowitz"The Waterfront complex, which was intended to hold an IMAX cinema, was constructed on the seafront in 1998.[42] The 19 m (62 ft)-high concrete and smoked glass building featured a wavy roof design, but was despised by residents and visitors alike because it blocked views of the bay and the Isle of Purbeck.[42][43] In 2005 it was voted the most hated building in England in a 10,000-person poll conducted by the Channel 4 programme Demolition, Jan 03 16:13
schestowitzand was pulled down in spring 2013.[42][44] The site is to be used as an outdoor event arena. The council still plan a larger redevelopment of the site and adjoining council land in the long term.'Jan 03 16:13
schestowitzWhat a wasteJan 03 16:13
razielle_tzu:/Jan 03 16:14
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/QLMmjrA.jpgJan 03 16:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @npomalley @smh "Evidence"=none shown "Links to the...'Jan 03 17:37
cubexyzok, removing binfmt_misc doesn't make much differenceJan 03 17:47
cubexyzit's very tiny, only 7468 bytesJan 03 17:47
MinceR:)Jan 03 17:47
cubexyzthe macronix ummm... Macronix MX987x5 uses the tulip moduleJan 03 17:52
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce Nice lineup of two conflicting narratives, ...'Jan 03 17:53
cubexyzso I actually have some DEC tech in the ol' serverJan 03 17:53
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce It oughtn't escape (real) journalists' attention that...'Jan 03 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816417384663613440Jan 03 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Fail0verflow Demos Linux & Steam Running on PlayStation 4Jan 03 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Firmware 4.05 at 33C3 https://t.co/PuAEOYqSLuJan 03 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fail0verflow Demos Linux & Steam Running on PlayStation 4 Firmware 4.05 at 33C3 | Tux MachinesJan 03 17:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Nice lineup of two conflicting narratives, ...'Jan 03 17:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It oughtn't escape (real) journalists' attention that...'Jan 03 17:55
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MrDuckstep @wikileaks Now a quote from @snowden himself...'Jan 03 17:57
cubexyzthe thing is, FC1 era LKMs are quite different from what Linux has nowJan 03 18:00
cubexyzit's not easy :-/Jan 03 18:01
cubexyznot easy to learn I meanJan 03 18:01
cubexyzthe USB subsystem has changed a lotJan 03 18:03
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MrDuckstep @wikileaks Not a quote from @snowden himself...'Jan 03 18:04
cubexyzok, some interesting historical stuff...Jan 03 18:13
cubexyzUnix v8 was derived from BSD 4.1cJan 03 18:13
cubexyzv8 has /procJan 03 18:14
cubexyzbut it's not in openbsd as far as I can seeJan 03 18:14
cubexyzv8 has system V shell and streamsJan 03 18:16
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein If people believe the "job creation" myth,...'Jan 03 18:18
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fail0verflow Demos Linux & Steam Running on PlayStation...'Jan 03 18:25
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Notice how the Establishment 'journalists' dodge...'Jan 03 18:25
cubexyzcan't remember now what the v8 c interpreter was called :-/Jan 03 18:33
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce Notice how the Establishment 'journalists' dodge point...'Jan 03 18:36
cubexyzseems like a lot of the more interesting things are missing from my disk imageJan 03 18:49
cubexyzbasic, bas, bite, altran, etc all are missingJan 03 18:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Peter_OTool @KevJames91 @wikileaks He plans to retire in...'Jan 03 20:06
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein @SocialistAlt Let's see if the media will...'Jan 03 20:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @Kasparov63 Garry Kasparov so desperate to discredit...'Jan 03 20:20
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jaraparilla #brennan of #cia plans to retire in...'Jan 03 20:24
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ChristianMale87 @wikileaks @YouTube He can't unless people from...'Jan 03 20:32
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Back in the Bush days #microsoft Exchange...'Jan 03 20:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 LeEco wants you to ride its Android-powered smartJan 03 20:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The cowboy theme (since yesterday) contributes to...'Jan 03 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 Solaroids: Prologue is coming to Linux thanks to FNAJan 03 20:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @wikileaks Obama Admin is the most transparent...'Jan 03 21:10
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @wikileaks Poor Empire. Always facing rogue nations...'Jan 03 21:22
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@seanhannity @WLTaskForce @wikileaks Thanks for silencing some of...'Jan 03 21:32
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/you-have-no-power-here.pngJan 03 21:36
cubexyzanyways... another boring day of fighting windowsJan 03 21:36
cubexyzat least I got to demo the chromebooksJan 03 21:36
cubexyzand now for some boring scanningJan 03 21:38
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@GreenPartyUS People like #trump and #billgates call themselves...'Jan 03 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 Fail0verflow Demos Linux & Steam Running on PlayStation 4Jan 04 03:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu-Based Exton|OS Distro Now Ships with MATE 1.16Jan 04 03:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop & Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/Mf1wQ2rIGkJan 04 03:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu-Based Exton|OS Distro Now Ships with MATE 1.16Jan 04 03:52
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TweetTuxMachines                 Lumina 1.2 Desktop Environment ReleasedJan 04 04:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lumina 1.2 Desktop Lets You Transform It into an Xfce, MATE, OSX or Windows UIJan 04 04:06
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TweetTuxMachines                 4MLinux 20.2 Distro Out Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.39, NewJan 04 04:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Broadcom Wi-Fi DriversJan 04 04:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Benchmarks With Linux 4.10Jan 04 04:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Benchmarks With Linux 4.10 - PhoronixJan 04 04:19
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TweetTuxMachines                 Absolute Linux Caters to the Slackware CrowdJan 04 04:23
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TweetTuxMachines                 Jona Azizaj: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/a8O6YPXqswJan 04 04:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Jona Azizaj: How Do You Fedora? - Fedora MagazineJan 04 04:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816576496689090560Jan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 2017: With great power comes great responsibilityJan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GNOqbipl0V (www.zdnet.com)Jan 04 04:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 2017: With great power comes great responsibility | ZDNetJan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816576665216172033Jan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Lumina Version 1.2.0 Released https://t.co/tknNwqDQDKJan 04 04:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina Version 1.2.0 Released | Tux MachinesJan 04 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 4MLinux 20.2 Distro Out Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.39, NewJan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Broadcom Wi-Fi Drivers https://t.co/CUmLEwJTzcJan 04 04:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 20.2 Distro Out Now with Linux Kernel 4.4.39, New Broadcom Wi-Fi Drivers | Tux MachinesJan 04 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816576690608435200Jan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 AMDGPU vs. Radeon GCN 1.0/1.1 Benchmarks With Linux 4.10Jan 04 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816576692860747776Jan 04 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Jona Azizaj: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/DaIK7nmKtjJan 04 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 Absolute Linux Caters to the Slackware CrowdJan 04 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 2017: With great power comes great responsibilityJan 04 04:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816576712079130624Jan 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Devices https://t.co/Rc1BeHqJQdJan 04 04:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux MachinesJan 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816577508112035840Jan 04 04:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Buuf – Art work design Icon Theme For LinuxJan 04 04:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/41qHb2OsDU (www.2daygeek.com)Jan 04 04:31
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TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung to Unveil Family Hub 2.0 Tizen Refrigerator atJan 04 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 CES 2017 https://t.co/jszR2Il81X (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 05:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816594506061611008Jan 04 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Kreative Mediabook Pro A156 Open Source Laptop RunningJan 04 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 ARTISTX 2.0 (video) https://t.co/fA6l2NGEoFJan 04 05:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 6 Android New Year's Resolutions to start 2017 off rightJan 04 05:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Android New Year's Resolutions to start 2017 off right | GreenbotJan 04 05:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816596539485388800Jan 04 05:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Dish unveils a 4K Android TV streaming box with Netflix,Jan 04 05:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Sling TV, and local channels https://t.co/Qeunzyr7WvJan 04 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Dish unveils a 4K Android TV streaming box with Netflix, Sling TV, and local channels - The VergeJan 04 05:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816596961654689796Jan 04 05:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Honor announces the Honor 6X with dual cameras, Kirin 655Jan 04 05:48
TweetTuxMachines                 SoC, and Android 6.0 for $249 https://t.co/zzrB8SkDNtJan 04 05:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidpolice.com)Jan 04 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Honor announces the Honor 6X with dual cameras, Kirin 655 SoC, and Android 6.0 for $249Jan 04 05:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816597107851333632Jan 04 05:50
TweetTuxMachines                 These slick shades pack the power of Android for ARJan 04 05:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/28DaZmdnZW (www.cnet.com)Jan 04 05:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-These slick shades pack the power of Android for AR - CNETJan 04 05:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816597602552647680Jan 04 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 The Best 6 Android Games Of 2016: It Is Not Too Late ToJan 04 05:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Have It https://t.co/oZicxLZscK (www.itechpost.com)Jan 04 05:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itechpost.com | The Best 6 Android Games Of 2016: It Is Not Too Late To Have It : Tech : iTech PostJan 04 05:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816603100760809474Jan 04 07:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/cEPH3vldwfJan 04 07:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 04 07:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816617215227215872Jan 04 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 4/1/2017: Cutelyst 1.2.0 and Lumina 1.2 DesktopJan 04 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Released https://t.co/Xfa3r349Ug (techrights.org)Jan 04 07:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/1/2017: Cutelyst 1.2.0 and Lumina 1.2 Desktop Released | TechrightsJan 04 07:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816621210591080449Jan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/hmOV8UCm9tJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 07:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816621212742733824Jan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/HPVV9VrGWnJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 07:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux MachinesJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816621215334834176Jan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/ChpUbJagpOJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 07:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816621217788502016Jan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/62sIFcDXTKJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 07:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816621219478765568Jan 04 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/6Y1wWuVa2yJan 04 07:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJan 04 07:24
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/MGpLHJan 04 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Deadpool gets better healing factor proposal from weapon-x.   DEADPOOL vol1-57 (2001)  - Album on ImgurJan 04 07:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816621222435749889Jan 04 08:05
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/x2cNuMARPOJan 04 08:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fail0verflow Demos Linux & Steam Running on PlayStation...'Jan 04 08:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu-Based Exton|OS Distro Now Ships with MATE 1.16...'Jan 04 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 04 08:06
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MLinux 20.2 Distro Out Now with Linux Kernel...'Jan 04 08:06
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '4MLinux 20.2 Distro Out Now with Linux Kernel...'Jan 04 08:06
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu-Based Exton|OS Distro Now Ships with MATE 1.16...'Jan 04 08:06
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lumina 1.2 Desktop Environment Released https://t.co/ll2Q6YVgaV https://t.co/MowF2Vkejv https://t.co/bs7xUJ9OjW'Jan 04 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.2 Desktop Environment Released - PhoronixJan 04 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lumina 1.2 Desktop Lets You Transform It into an Xfce, MATE, OSX or Windows UIJan 04 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lumina-desktop.org | Version 1.2.0 Released – Lumina Desktop EnvironmentJan 04 08:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/816689557676683264Jan 04 12:02
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 4/1/2017: Cutelyst 1.2.0 and Lumina 1.2 DesktopJan 04 12:02
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Released https://t.co/Xfa3r349Ug (techrights.org)Jan 04 12:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/1/2017: Cutelyst 1.2.0 and Lumina 1.2 Desktop Released | TechrightsJan 04 12:02
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @hughhewitt @PBS @newhour They just 'planted' it...'Jan 04 12:05
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein Read this book to understand what's going...'Jan 04 12:13
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CNNPolitics @WLTaskForce Clinton News Network must be happy...'Jan 04 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816696173130117126Jan 04 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung to Unveil Family Hub 2.0 Tizen Refrigerator atJan 04 12:28
TweetTuxMachines                 CES 2017 https://t.co/S9rIUqngm8 (www.tizenexperts.com)Jan 04 12:28
TweetTuxMachines Jan 04 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung to Unveil Family Hub 2.0 Tizen Refrigerator at CES 2017 - Tizen ExpertsJan 04 12:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @tonythecase Some private intel' agencies, the ones...'Jan 04 12:36
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/nQBNaJan 04 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reaction dump - Album on ImgurJan 04 12:42
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Look how much paperwork and bureaucracy is...'Jan 04 12:46
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks A lot of people conveniently forget that...'Jan 04 12:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816702377319202818Jan 04 12:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Calculated, Faint Shadow of OpenMandriva, BigJan 04 12:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Bother Absolutely https://t.co/HBjxiK7pxVJan 04 12:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/sIo0ulOAOxJan 04 12:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Calculated, Faint Shadow of OpenMandriva, Big Bother Absolutely | Tux MachinesJan 04 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux Calculated, Faint Shadow of OpenMandriva, Big Bother Absolutely https://t.co/HBjxiK7pxV https://t.co/sIo0ulOAOxJan 04 12:48
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HDZI2rwyHgJan 04 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hand in Hot Ice - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qaidp ]Jan 04 12:50
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@GreenPartyUS #trumpTheSwamp and #gop attempt to kill #fcc...'Jan 04 13:00
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Larcen_ @wikileaks #trump and #gop attempt to kill...'Jan 04 13:00
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It works like this 1. plant 'evidence'...'Jan 04 13:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Larcen_ @wikileaks Yes, the ethics...'Jan 04 13:15
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Larcen_ @wikileaks He already sued or...'Jan 04 13:17
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit @wikileaks This tactic is dangerous. Can be...'Jan 04 13:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816711186863394816Jan 04 13:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi: A closer look at Raspbian PIXEL GNU/LinuxJan 04 13:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Hw2wERiPqA (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 13:23
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pwBe0K1Rv4Jan 04 13:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: A closer look at Raspbian PIXEL GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJan 04 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Raspberry Pi: A closer look at Raspbian PIXEL GNU/Linux https://t.co/Hw2wERiPqA https://t.co/pwBe0K1Rv4Jan 04 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce BBC reporting that I saw today wasn't...'Jan 04 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks This tactic, painting people "pedo", is dangerous....'Jan 04 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @Reuters @CornellWBrooks @NAACP A sign of things...'Jan 04 13:45
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1I5nReVEAASQQv.jpg:largeJan 04 13:50
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JourneysNonnie @FreeMattDehart More trivial, send someone link to...'Jan 04 13:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816720249273786368Jan 04 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Automotive Grade Linux Moves to UCB 3.0Jan 04 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TsNN8t8Q4I (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mw28wHTAWxJan 04 13:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Automotive Grade Linux Moves to UCB 3.0 | Tux MachinesJan 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Automotive Grade Linux Moves to UCB 3.0 https://t.co/TsNN8t8Q4I https://t.co/mw28wHTAWxJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816720268861181952Jan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Toyota and Ford Create Automaker Group to Promote OpenJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Smartphone Interfaces https://t.co/pjMt7RHk1bJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/xN8b75yc2gJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines Jan 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Toyota and Ford Create Automaker Group to Promote Open Source Smartphone Interfaces | Tux MachinesJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816720278969401344Jan 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Toyota and Ford Create Automaker Group to Promote Open Source Smartphone Interfaces https://t.co/pjMt7RHk1b https://t.co/xN8b75yc2gJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat needs to get real about the cloudJan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5FzYmd3HEI (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/vYfaHUf7DQJan 04 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat needs to get real about the cloud | Tux MachinesJan 04 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Red Hat needs to get real about the cloud https://t.co/5FzYmd3HEI https://t.co/vYfaHUf7DQJan 04 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816720286926000129Jan 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Linksys router offers Tri-Band mesh networking with AlexaJan 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NSF1pyKTWh (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 14:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RSrA55HjBRJan 04 14:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linksys router offers Tri-Band mesh networking with Alexa | Tux MachinesJan 04 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linksys router offers Tri-Band mesh networking with Alexa https://t.co/NSF1pyKTWh https://t.co/RSrA55HjBRJan 04 14:05
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein Countries that offer people the basic safety...'Jan 04 14:13
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antilopecheck this oneJan 04 14:45
antilopehttps://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=782003117027015001126125091023121089052016006059021006029098014127094072011109021092034010029016033047045125068027024070004099051022030047038021079019028083116006020069011090102013100124117099092109075114082096064020019100119028102103074021097120105&EXT=pdfJan 04 14:46
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/edf6Z9i.jpgJan 04 15:08
schestowitzMinceR: lol at "Jan 04 15:20
schestowitzreaction dumpJan 04 15:20
schestowitzby ashIG888hJan 04 15:20
schestowitzdry ice and Molten copperJan 04 15:20
schestowitzAluminum powder in organic solventJan 04 15:20
schestowitzMolten Sodium and IodineJan 04 15:20
schestowitzaluminum heated by an electromagnetJan 04 15:20
schestowitzLuminol and sodium ferrocyanideJan 04 15:20
schestowitzsolar power vs steelJan 04 15:20
schestowitzDyes in methanolJan 04 15:20
schestowitzsodium acetate and idiotJan 04 15:20
schestowitz"Jan 04 15:20
schestowitzesp. the idiotJan 04 15:20
MinceR:)Jan 04 15:21
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Thomas_Drake1 Also hacking≠cracking, Russia-linked≠Russian, Russia≠Putin, Russian IP≠Russian user...'Jan 04 15:31
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ChristianMale87 @wikileaks @YouTube They try to scandalise this...'Jan 04 15:37
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce Good move, from Wikileaks and the Clinton...'Jan 04 15:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce Maybe there's an opportunity here for another...'Jan 04 15:42
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Seth is still a mystery. It was...'Jan 04 15:46
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein @POTUS #TimeServed far more than enough, but...'Jan 04 15:51
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @dandarling @NappNazworth Actually, "hacker" is not an...'Jan 04 15:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein Similar problems in most countries around the...'Jan 04 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816765660726337536Jan 04 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Open spec router SBC offers 5x GbE, wireless, and SATAJan 04 16:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/E3LyNK0hh1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 16:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open spec router SBC offers 5x GbE, wireless, and SATA | Tux MachinesJan 04 16:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816765662144016384Jan 04 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Overcoming Ubuntu Wi-Fi Not WorkingJan 04 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Oe2ZgH3Lvt (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 17:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Overcoming Ubuntu Wi-Fi Not Working | Tux MachinesJan 04 17:21
cubexyzx2x fails with "BadWindow" Jan 04 17:25
cubexyzI was trying to figure out why the heck that was happeningJan 04 17:25
cubexyzthen it dawned on me...Jan 04 17:26
cubexyzi was _already_ running the same x2x connection in another konsole tabJan 04 17:26
cubexyzsometimes I don't even get the error, it will just sit thereJan 04 17:28
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @TheEconomist The question is, who can actually...'Jan 04 17:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816774493104271360Jan 04 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017, Still PoweredJan 04 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 by Linux Kernel 4.8.13 https://t.co/LqFGLEjIFfJan 04 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/gb327LSZUTJan 04 17:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017, Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.8.13 | Tux MachinesJan 04 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017, Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.8.13 https://t.co/LqFGLEjIFf https://t.co/gb327LSZUTJan 04 17:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816774508237328385Jan 04 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to SupportJan 04 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Sega's Altered Beast https://t.co/ZCb3TAx1BKJan 04 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/u3IgQXdHcTJan 04 17:35
TweetTuxMachines Jan 04 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to Support Sega's Altered Beast | Tux MachinesJan 04 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to Support Sega's Altered Beast https://t.co/ZCb3TAx1BK https://t.co/u3IgQXdHcTJan 04 17:35
cubexyzmame supported altered beast ages agoJan 04 17:35
cubexyzneedless to say there's no man page for xmameJan 04 17:43
cubexyzI'm not even sure xmame is still being developedJan 04 17:44
cubexyzanyways, xmame 0.61.1 had 'altbeast' supportedJan 04 17:45
cubexyzthat's 2002 eraJan 04 17:45
cubexyzoldest mention I can see is from 1998... mame33 somethingJan 04 17:47
cubexyzoh I see... M-chip emulationJan 04 17:48
cubexyzer, MCU emulation Jan 04 17:49
cubexyzsome protected microcontrollerJan 04 17:50
cubexyzalso Votrax SC-01 emulation which is nice to seeJan 04 17:50
cubexyzI still have an old Votrax Type-N-Talk, it's got the SC-01 chipJan 04 17:52
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce The choice of #reddit as the platform...'Jan 04 17:53
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @Pinboard I think it's fair to say...'Jan 04 17:53
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @Pinboard That depends on who is doing...'Jan 04 18:05
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein Working for their real clients https://t.co/Hljj8jVrqm not...'Jan 04 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: Republicans have decided that giving a tax cut to the top 0.1% is more important than the health and economic secur… https://t.co/PEcoyOEnJEJan 04 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: Republicans have decided that giving a tax cut to the top 0.1% is more important than the health and economic secur… https://t.co/PEcoyOEnJEJan 04 18:05
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ftp-meme.jpgJan 04 18:10
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/fi7DJ7P.gifvJan 04 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurJan 04 18:11
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@scott_vl @Larcen_ @wikileaks No, that's revisionism, like claims...'Jan 04 18:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017,...'Jan 04 18:34
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MinceR(audio) (video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRh7W-Bsg5gJan 04 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samson Da Barbarian (part 1 of the Samson Trilogy) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qajhi ]Jan 04 18:57
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to Support...'Jan 04 19:20
cubexyzpffftt, 1998 :)Jan 04 19:26
cubexyzAltered Beast was actually one of the earlier games to be emulatedJan 04 19:26
cubexyzoh yeah, SDLMAME took over from xmameJan 04 19:29
cubexyzlet's see...Jan 04 19:39
cubexyzthe 'old' openbsd 4.7 had xmame 0.104p3-x11Jan 04 19:39
cubexyzI just wanted a decent adventure game but the chromeos games kind of suckJan 04 19:54
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g3__Talk to me about palantir?Jan 04 21:06
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TweetTuxMachines                 Release: #Clonezilla #gnu #linux2.5.0-16Jan 04 21:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Rz7YBe7K1b (www.clonezilla.org)Jan 04 21:11
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TweetTuxMachines                 GrandPad, the Android tablet for seniors, getting aJan 04 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 hardware refresh before April  https://t.co/SSFXIM8cDJJan 04 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com)Jan 04 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Acer, GrandPad Team Up For A New Android Tablet For Senior Citizens | Digital TrendsJan 04 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816829746042597380Jan 04 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung’s New Chromebooks Can Transform Into AndroidJan 04 21:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Tablets https://t.co/YD3H22JUvm (time.com)Jan 04 21:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-time.com | Samsung's New Chromebook Pro, Plus Can Run Android AppsJan 04 21:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816829902867599360Jan 04 21:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Panasonic unveils an Android-powered car infotainmentJan 04 21:29
TweetTuxMachines                 system https://t.co/rtaoyOLZxq (www.engadget.com)Jan 04 21:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Panasonic unveils an Android-powered car infotainment systemJan 04 21:29
razielle_tzug3__: by palantir do you mean the orbs from LOTR or the software company?Jan 04 21:31
cubexyzPalantír for the tolkien oneJan 04 21:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Clearly worked as deterrent as they...'Jan 04 21:39
cubexyzdata-mining concerns there I thinkJan 04 21:39
cubexyzdon't recall seeing the ip address or the name actuallyJan 04 21:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816836376360423424Jan 04 21:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/wGGVmfQkC9Jan 04 21:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 04 21:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 04 21:48
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@malbertnews @WLTaskForce @CBSNews What have we sunk to......'Jan 04 21:48
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@malbertnews @WLTaskForce @CBSNews What a stupid, utterly dumb...'Jan 04 21:52
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pamfoundation @WLTaskForce Any false accusation of rape is...'Jan 04 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816840481619451904Jan 04 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi: A closer look at Raspbian PIXEL GNU/LinuxJan 04 21:56
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/JOu2KAqzmC (www.zdnet.com)Jan 04 21:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi: A closer look at Raspbian PIXEL GNU/Linux | ZDNetJan 04 21:56
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Raspberry Pi: A closer look at Raspbian PIXEL...'Jan 04 21:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816840976253718529Jan 04 21:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Automotive Grade Linux Moves to UCB 3.0Jan 04 21:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OSXzwh3zO6 (www.linux.com)Jan 04 21:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automotive Grade Linux Moves to UCB 3.0 | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationJan 04 21:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @realDonaldTrump The Swamp will be filled primarily...'Jan 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816842340337860608Jan 04 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat needs to get real about the cloudJan 04 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c1uOu6lWS4 (www.infoworld.com)Jan 04 22:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat needs to get real about the cloud | InfoWorldJan 04 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816842494558224384Jan 04 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Linksys router offers Tri-Band mesh networking with AlexaJan 04 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7TyDUyR8QM (hackerboards.com)Jan 04 22:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Linksys router offers Tri-Band mesh networking with AlexaJan 04 22:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816842646530457600Jan 04 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Open spec router SBC offers 5x GbE, wireless, and SATAJan 04 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6lXR9vKQdJ (hackerboards.com)Jan 04 22:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com | Open spec router SBC offers 5x GbE, wireless, and SATAJan 04 22:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816842921790083072Jan 04 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Overcoming Ubuntu Wi-Fi Not WorkingJan 04 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xSoBZthnbY (www.datamation.com)Jan 04 22:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Overcoming Ubuntu Wi-Fi Not Working - DatamationJan 04 22:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816843055722590208Jan 04 22:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017, Still PoweredJan 04 22:06
TweetTuxMachines                 by Linux Kernel 4.8.13 https://t.co/pOIGhg0pm7Jan 04 22:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jan 04 22:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017, Still Powered by Linux Kernel 4.8.13Jan 04 22:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816843194835025920Jan 04 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to SupportJan 04 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Sega's Altered Beast https://t.co/ObDcQtAgFUJan 04 22:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jan 04 22:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to Support Sega's Altered BeastJan 04 22:14
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Well done dismantling all that #fakenews ...'Jan 04 22:20
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@seanhannity @wikileaks @newtgingrich He used #gmail which shows...'Jan 04 22:29
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce The press likes to pretend #Assange chose...'Jan 04 22:31
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce The effort to discourage journalists and politicians...'Jan 04 22:32
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CNNPolitics @WLTaskForce Says a lot about the CIA,...'Jan 04 22:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816851337132511232Jan 04 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 We have 99 keys of IMPOSSIBALL to give away to LinuxJan 04 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 gamers willing to test it out https://t.co/ir6U9Vo8x9Jan 04 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jan 04 22:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-We have 99 keys of IMPOSSIBALL to give away to Linux gamers willing to test it out | GamingOnLinuxJan 04 22:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816851640783405056Jan 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Eco - Global Survival Game, an incredibly interestingJan 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 looking game that's already on LinuxJan 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3shASDoa0V (www.gamingonlinux.com)Jan 04 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eco - Global Survival Game, an incredibly interesting looking game that's already on Linux | GamingOnLinuxJan 04 22:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux Gets First ISO Respin for 2017,...'Jan 04 22:45
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'MAME 0.181 Open-Source Arcade Machine Emulator to Support...'Jan 04 22:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816853615419752448Jan 04 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands inJan 04 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 2017 with Linux 4.8.15 https://t.co/1DgYmM7sB8Jan 04 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Jan 04 22:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands in 2017 with Linux 4.8.15Jan 04 22:55
schestowitz[02:41] <cubexyz> don't recall seeing the ip address or the name actuallyJan 04 23:00
schestowitzYeah, oddJan 04 23:00
schestowitzas if they're mining the IRC logsJan 04 23:00
schestowitzcubexyz: I recently published a year's worth of longsJan 04 23:00
schestowitzwill do 3 more months next monthJan 04 23:00
schestowitzincludes your logs, as a form of backup for my offline time (rare)Jan 04 23:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816862435411824640Jan 04 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands inJan 04 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 2017 with Linux 4.8.15 https://t.co/sUu6hp9y98Jan 04 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/C4ztvM9uR0Jan 04 23:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands in 2017 with Linux 4.8.15 | Tux MachinesJan 04 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands in 2017 with Linux 4.8.15 https://t.co/sUu6hp9y98 https://t.co/C4ztvM9uR0Jan 04 23:22
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TweetTuxMachines                 Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/SuMTJwdjQzJan 05 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 05 01:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @wikileaks If they mean source as a...'Jan 05 03:43
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@needajobbad @wikileaks Among other angles, e.g. https://t.co/CusVXORdDq'Jan 05 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newser.com | Meet Julian Assange... Cat AbuserJan 05 03:48
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce I get anonymous sources several times per...'Jan 05 03:48
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce #wikileaks should not surrender to...'Jan 05 04:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816942554218463232Jan 05 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 $89 Pinebook Linux Laptop To Go On Sale Next MonthJan 05 04:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fdHl6QVDFA (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Jan 05 04:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | $89 Pinebook Linux Laptop To Go On Sale Next Month - OMG! Ubuntu!Jan 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816946282392616960Jan 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits the StreetsJan 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 as New Stable Series https://t.co/ojWAiQM6nRJan 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jan 05 04:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits the Streets as New Stable SeriesJan 05 04:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816946934229372928Jan 05 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released forJan 05 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 ARM64/AArch64 Machines https://t.co/wX04i76jROJan 05 04:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jan 05 04:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released for ARM64/AArch64 MachinesJan 05 04:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands...'Jan 05 04:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SystemRescueCd 4.9.1 Rescue & Recovery Live CD Lands...'Jan 05 04:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits...'Jan 05 05:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816947358571393024Jan 05 05:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Pi To Take Over The Desktop?  https://t.co/cOnxKDJ0huJan 05 05:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.i-programmer.info)Jan 05 05:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | Pi To Take Over The Desktop?Jan 05 05:00
*TweetTuxMachines @RemoteWorkingCo favourited 'CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released for...'Jan 05 05:00
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released for...'Jan 05 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816950048944750592Jan 05 05:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management and BudgieJan 05 05:16
TweetTuxMachines                 11 Desktop for Q1 2017 https://t.co/vdMHpbm8IcJan 05 05:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Jan 05 05:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management and Budgie 11 Desktop for Q1 2017Jan 05 05:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management...'Jan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816951903275786241Jan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits the StreetsJan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 as New Stable Series https://t.co/hqRERQwQOUJan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/DZp3bpbDusJan 05 05:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits the Streets as New Stable Series | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits the Streets as New Stable Series https://t.co/hqRERQwQOU https://t.co/DZp3bpbDusJan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816951913992187904Jan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released forJan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 ARM64/AArch64 Machines https://t.co/Jjd46pGTSLJan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/Kb1TjNKgY5Jan 05 05:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released for ARM64/AArch64 Machines | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released for ARM64/AArch64 Machines https://t.co/Jjd46pGTSL https://t.co/Kb1TjNKgY5Jan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816951917813170176Jan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News https://t.co/eWWg8AoX22Jan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 05 05:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816951926541561856Jan 05 05:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management and BudgieJan 05 05:19
TweetTuxMachines                 11 Desktop for Q1 2017 https://t.co/hwR3z5Z0AbJan 05 05:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/asXBG7hb69Jan 05 05:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management and Budgie 11 Desktop for Q1 2017 | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management and Budgie 11 Desktop for Q1 2017 https://t.co/hwR3z5Z0Ab https://t.co/asXBG7hb69Jan 05 05:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816952255098343424Jan 05 05:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy vs. Flatpak: Unified Linux Packaging SystemsJan 05 05:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TSpYh2647V (www.serverwatch.com)Jan 05 05:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serverwatch.com | Snappy vs. Flatpak: Unified Linux Packaging SystemsJan 05 05:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816952751234183168Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Endless is bringing its cheap, user-friendly Linux PCs toJan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 the US https://t.co/C5zkglnMjy (www.theverge.com)Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BOCLdRTgmo (liliputing.com)Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/30RjttW2Vg (hardware.itbusinessnet.com)Jan 05 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Endless is bringing its cheap, user-friendly Linux PCs to the US - The VergeJan 05 05:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Endless introduces Linux mini desktop PCs for American market - LiliputingJan 05 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.itbusinessnet.com | Endless Unveils Mission Mini and Mission One Computers as the Endless Experience Comes to AmericaJan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816953949295149056Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.10's ath9k Driver Should Have Lower Latency &Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Less Bufferbloat https://t.co/2WHmoMQqW0Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Jan 05 05:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.10's ath9k Driver Should Have Lower Latency & Less Bufferbloat - PhoronixJan 05 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'BusyBox 1.26.1 Swiss Army Knife of Linux Hits...'Jan 05 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Officially Released for...'Jan 05 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus Devs to Focus on Linux Driver Management...'Jan 05 05:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816954173136769024Jan 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 2016 The Year Of GNU/Linux On Many DesktopsJan 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DkH4P6Dm3b (mrpogson.com)Jan 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines Jan 05 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | 2016 The Year Of GNU/Linux On Many Desktops | Robert PogsonJan 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816955305133215744Jan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Plasma 5.8.5 LTS Lands for Kubuntu 16.04 LTS andJan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 16.10, Here's How to Update https://t.co/aU7peXIadCJan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/Skd6ieN4U9Jan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (kubuntu.org)Jan 05 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.8.5 LTS Lands for Kubuntu 16.04 LTS and 16.10, Here's How to UpdateJan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines Jan 05 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubuntu.org | Plasma 5.8.5 bugfix release in Xenial and Yakkety Backports now | KubuntuJan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816960571522236416Jan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy vs. Flatpak: Unified Linux Packaging SystemsJan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/frhtp3eEJh (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines Jan 05 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Snappy vs. Flatpak: Unified Linux Packaging Systems | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816960573376057344Jan 05 05:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Pinebook and Endless Updates https://t.co/mT8MMaxgCNJan 05 05:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 05 05:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pinebook and Endless Updates | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/816960578107285504Jan 05 05:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.8.5 LTS Lands for Kubuntu 16.04 LTS and 16.10, Here's How to Update | Tux MachinesJan 05 05:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: KDE Plasma 5.8.5 LTS Lands for Kubuntu 16.04 LTS and 16.10, Here's How to Update https://t.co/9dwWWtOfDv https://t.co/hwzEY6YceoJan 05 05:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/8513488Jan 05 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This could be big for #gnu #linux http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/04/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/ Closer look at the Mission line of mini PCs from Endless Computers https://www.cnet.com/products/endless-mission-one/preview/Jan 05 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Endless expands into the U.S. with $129 Mission Mini and $249 Mission One computers | VentureBeat | Business | by Ken Yeung [ http://ur1.ca/qaljd ]Jan 05 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Endless has a mission: Bring its charmingly cheap Mission One computers to the US - CNET [ http://ur1.ca/qalje ]Jan 05 05:54
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schestowitzLast night site downtime was only minutes, so I've relaxed the site's restrictions, put fail2ban up. All parts of the site should be accessible until/unless there's an imminent attack.Jan 05 06:10
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @DarrellIssa @NewDay Ad hominem attacks so much...'Jan 05 08:31
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SebthreeBQM10HDhiJan 05 10:02
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @CassandraRules Go girl. https://t.co/lIjuU94Mog'Jan 05 10:13
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razielle_tzuhi SebthreeBQM10HDJan 05 10:14
SebthreeBQM10HDoh hi razielle_tzuJan 05 10:15
razielle_tzusorry i was making a drink when you came inJan 05 10:16
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks it arguably put at risk the life...'Jan 05 10:16
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, OKJan 05 10:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, YAY turns out I have video files that are over 4GBJan 05 10:17
SebthreeBQM10HDso  dodnest owrk nicey with fatJan 05 10:17
razielle_tzuwell no, they wouldn'tJan 05 10:17
SebthreeBQM10HDexternal hard disk or usbs, finding out got a link about to go on, for re formatting the file system of a usb or external hard disk etc using linuxJan 05 10:17
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, uhmmm I have like afew half hour or so videos, that I Recorded using my ipad air setting devices upJan 05 10:18
SebthreeBQM10HDbig filesJan 05 10:18
SebthreeBQM10HDI guess the camera is good so, and the format ?Jan 05 10:18
razielle_tzuthey're usually pretty big unless you adjust the file type/ratio/compression scheme/whateverJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDwhich I Didn't doJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDnow I know thoughJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDmassive files hmmJan 05 10:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/robsonhcosta/status/817026939793838080Jan 05 10:19
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razielle_tzui always adjust the settings to get the most out of whatever i'm filming/taking pics ofJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, those videos are the one thing stopping me  now, from factory re setting with the hp usb, and so on from tehreJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDdon't want to lose themJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDknow what they are nowJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDas well soJan 05 10:19
SebthreeBQM10HDpersonal videos me setting up devices :D geek videosJan 05 10:20
razielle_tzulolJan 05 10:20
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, soeone suggestd  going for ext4 for my usbsJan 05 10:20
SebthreeBQM10HDunless I need WIndows supportJan 05 10:20
razielle_tzuit's a good idea but i need the windows support for some of my drives so i don't do thatJan 05 10:21
SebthreeBQM10HDusb is a bit  uh wanted on extenral hard disk really, but its in fat, and I Got other stuff on there now soJan 05 10:21
SebthreeBQM10HDwell these usbs are 8gbJan 05 10:21
SebthreeBQM10HDany of those vieos,  will take up most of the spaceJan 05 10:21
SebthreeBQM10HD4 to 6gbJan 05 10:21
razielle_tzui have a 4gb one that is currently loaned out and the rest are 16 or 32gbJan 05 10:21
SebthreeBQM10HDwoudn't use them for anyth8ing else if they got one of those video onJan 05 10:21
SebthreeBQM10HDput in a draw etcJan 05 10:21
razielle_tzuoh and a CF card for a POS terminal i use as a media centre and a load of microsd cards that vary from 256mb to 64gbJan 05 10:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI Kind of just lost one already, wel could use again, but yeah it's got my mostly copied over  fileJan 05 10:22
SebthreeBQM10HDI had like two packs of 10 8gb usbs in diffenrgt coloursJan 05 10:23
SebthreeBQM10HDthey are niceJan 05 10:23
razielle_tzumy physically smallest usb drive is also my biggest and sits on a keyringJan 05 10:23
SebthreeBQM10HDso I CAN  spare a few usbs becausse of these videos :dJan 05 10:23
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, or I  could some how I assume cut the videoJan 05 10:23
SebthreeBQM10HDinto smallerl tpart Jan 05 10:23
SebthreeBQM10HDsJan 05 10:23
SebthreeBQM10HDsmaller filesJan 05 10:24
SebthreeBQM10HDthen onto external hard diskJan 05 10:24
SebthreeBQM10HDbut not sure how to do thatJan 05 10:24
razielle_tzuyou could split it or you can recompress itJan 05 10:24
razielle_tzukeep it the full video but a smaller sizeJan 05 10:24
SebthreeBQM10HDhowJan 05 10:24
SebthreeBQM10HDand only using an ubuntu usbJan 05 10:24
SebthreeBQM10HDwell I can Internet connect if need beJan 05 10:24
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, I don't want those videos on usbs reallyJan 05 10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDbut yes  I saw that as one way to get past the issue I was hving, once re formatted themJan 05 10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, the video would have to be under 4gb Jan 05 10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDafter doing whatever to itJan 05 10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDthe file/sJan 05 10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDany fileJan 05 10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDsince it would then be going on fatJan 05 10:26
razielle_tzui am aware of that and there are all kinds of tools you can install to a live session to do the job, look around for one that you like the look ofJan 05 10:26
SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, so you haven't done this yourself ?Jan 05 10:26
razielle_tzui haven't needed to... yetJan 05 10:27
MinceRhttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/01/an_sql_injectio.htmlJan 05 10:27
razielle_tzui did used to make dvds on windows thoughJan 05 10:27
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MinceRhttp://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/to.jpgJan 05 11:02
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SebthreeBQM10HDrazielle_tzu, slowly moving one over to a ext4 usb now it seemsJan 05 11:06
razielle_tzufair enoughJan 05 11:06
MinceRwinblows may be able to handle ext4 via an installable fs driverJan 05 11:11
MinceRext3 does work, iircJan 05 11:11
razielle_tzuyeah there's a fw third party programs for ext support. i know they did ext2 and ext3, not used them recently enough to know about ext4 thoughJan 05 11:12
razielle_tzualso not sure whether they're useable with win8 or 10Jan 05 11:13
razielle_tzuthe last time i used one was with 7Jan 05 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 18.1 Xfce Edition Enters Beta, Based on UbuntuJan 05 11:17
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MinceRgood pointJan 05 11:19
MinceRm$ even screwed up cygwin openssh in vistaJan 05 11:19
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razielle_tzui really should keep up with what utils still work for using linux drives and stuff with windows (particularly 8 and 10)Jan 05 11:23
razielle_tzubut i usually just live disc or use my linux partition and the tools i have on there instead :DJan 05 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 5/1/2017: Inkscape 0.92, GNU Sed 4.3Jan 05 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines                 Casio's new outdoor smartwatch is built for Android WearJan 05 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines                 Tablo Droid turns your Android TV into a DVRJan 05 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines                 New Balance is launching a fitness-focused Android WearJan 05 11:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung introduces its first Chromebooks with stylus andJan 05 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Android support https://t.co/Z8hTgkTceW (thenextweb.com)Jan 05 11:39
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TweetTuxMachines                 LeEco's Android-powered smart road bike is for hardcoreJan 05 11:45
TweetTuxMachines                 cyclists  https://t.co/NK44AMjaqR (www.engadget.com)Jan 05 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817049422508998656Jan 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 This is the first Android smartphone in the world withJan 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 8GB of RAMJan 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 ttp://bgr.com/2017/01/05/asus-zenfone-ar-release-date/Jan 05 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 Video – Samsung Press Conference at CES 2017, Tizen atJan 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines                 the heart of IoT https://t.co/1k6JGxIR3XJan 05 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/hunl1zyIOTJan 05 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME and GTK News https://t.co/eEEf3r5FdrJan 05 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/vZS8xykrltJan 05 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/LsmiqKf5GKJan 05 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux on Servers https://t.co/yruCIusCVBJan 05 11:54
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MinceRhttps://katraccoon.com/comics/behind-the-gifs/the-cat-and-the-wizardJan 05 12:03
razielle_tzuhehJan 05 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817051320502788096Jan 05 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/bCuGzRlc5ZJan 05 12:11
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schestowitz[16:19] <MinceR> m$ even screwed up cygwin openssh in vistaJan 05 12:33
schestowitzlink?Jan 05 12:33
MinceRno link, personal experienceJan 05 12:34
MinceRalso, it may have been vista7Jan 05 12:34
MinceRbut they're probably the same in this regardJan 05 12:34
schestowitzsame lineageJan 05 12:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Not a OpenMandriva Review, Integrated Steam, EndlessJan 05 14:16
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apollo11wHmmJan 05 14:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Clarifies Ubuntu Phone State: Nothing ReallyJan 05 14:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint 18.1 'Serena' Xfce Edition Beta operatingJan 05 14:51
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/Qc77Mpk.jpgJan 05 15:37
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apollo11wMinceR: lolJan 05 15:38
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cubexyzlol, rumours that cmd will disappear from windows :)Jan 05 18:35
cubexyzhey go for itJan 05 18:35
cubexyzjust make it a grunt N point OS for idiotsJan 05 18:36
cubexyzbut yeah, probably won't happenJan 05 18:38
cubexyzoh wait, they could try to replace cmd.exe with that power shell thingJan 05 18:39
cubexyzanyways my advice is don't use windows for anythingJan 05 18:39
cubexyzI realize that is may be a bit painful, but it's worth it Jan 05 18:40
cubexyzclosed source isn't desireable at allJan 05 18:41
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@MayMa42554893 @DrJillStein You are coming TO Jill's turf...'Jan 05 18:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817154671118872576Jan 05 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Mesa 13.0.3 released with numerous bugfixesJan 05 18:45
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MinceRit already was a grunt N point OS for idiotsJan 05 18:45
MinceRjust like macosJan 05 18:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817155003681042432Jan 05 18:46
TweetTuxMachines                 No More Room in Hell 2 has a new teaser, should come toJan 05 18:46
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TweetTuxMachines                 There's a Linux-powered car in your futureJan 05 18:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fWWsBzTVQz (www.zdnet.com)Jan 05 18:51
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cubexyza lot of the game development is still OS X or windowsJan 05 18:51
cubexyzof course there's Steam nowadaysJan 05 18:52
cubexyzI still think of macos as that old OSJan 05 18:52
MinceRa lot of game development is worthless crapJan 05 18:53
cubexyzthe 68K/PowerPC oneJan 05 18:53
cubexyzit's a bit ambiguous to just say macosJan 05 18:53
cubexyzyeah... it's a mixed bag for sureJan 05 18:53
MinceRlocked-down DRM-encrusted winblows/macos-only crap with linear "gameplay", and you get to pay for the privilege of playing itJan 05 18:53
cubexyzyeah... I'm having trouble finding a fun game :-/Jan 05 18:54
MinceRi'm much more interested in free software multiplatform FPS-es and whatever else is built on their codeJan 05 18:54
cubexyzLegend of Grimrock looks promising thoughJan 05 18:54
MinceRhttp://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a7ZgWzL_700b_v1.jpgJan 05 18:55
cubexyzdo you bother with android games or steam?Jan 05 18:55
MinceRi don'tJan 05 18:56
MinceRi have a few games on my tablet, but i haven't played much with themJan 05 18:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817156486354771968Jan 05 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 There's a Linux-powered car in your futureJan 05 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MIIMAiJxo0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jan 05 18:57
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MinceRi've thought of someday developing an RTS-inspired TBS which isn't dependent on a fast UI, but that's about as far as i got with itJan 05 18:57
cubexyzsome of the Loki games programming was pretty goodJan 05 18:57
cubexyzof course, it's totally closedJan 05 18:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817157942218817536Jan 05 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Testing Nouveau's Open-Source NVIDIA Support On LinuxJan 05 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 4.10 With NvBoost https://t.co/LGVlw7RnmtJan 05 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817158355538051072Jan 05 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Steam Linux Client Beta Adds Idle Detection, UpdatedJan 05 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulkan Loader & More https://t.co/t9HCOBewL2Jan 05 18:59
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MinceRand some of it was pretty horridJan 05 18:59
MinceRlike unreal tournament using a busyloop to figure out timingJan 05 18:59
MinceRwhich totally broke if the machine had SpeedStepJan 05 19:00
cubexyzthat was Epic I thinkJan 05 19:00
cubexyzLoki didn't write itJan 05 19:01
MinceRthey only supported it?Jan 05 19:01
cubexyzI think soJan 05 19:01
MinceRicJan 05 19:01
cubexyzit's possible they botched up something though :)Jan 05 19:01
cubexyzthey were the publisher for Unreal Tournament on LinuxJan 05 19:03
cubexyzbut Epic wrote itJan 05 19:03
cubexyzhmmm, maybe they ported it?Jan 05 19:04
cubexyzif so then yeah I would have to blame themJan 05 19:04
MinceRwikipedia implies loki ported it, but do not say so explicitlyJan 05 19:04
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_TournamentJan 05 19:04
MinceRthe linked article ( https://www.bluesnews.com/a/50/epic-and-loki-partner-for-unreal-tournament-for-linux ) says Loki's only responsible for tech support and updatesJan 05 19:05
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cubexyzok, I think it was Epic that wrote it thenJan 05 19:06
MinceRstill better than what they did with ut3Jan 05 19:07
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_GamesJan 05 19:07
cubexyzsearch on linuxJan 05 19:07
cubexyznot much there :-/Jan 05 19:08
cubexyzUnreal Tournament looks like the only linux thing they didJan 05 19:08
MinceRwell yeahJan 05 19:08
MinceRthey promised a GNU/Linux client for ut3Jan 05 19:09
MinceRit never actually materializedJan 05 19:09
cubexyzprogrammers often stop working on stuff without $$$Jan 05 19:09
MinceRwell, i stopped caringJan 05 19:10
MinceRxonotic exists and it's far better than ut or q3a or ql ever could beJan 05 19:10
cubexyzI thought games companies could offer a source code license for some amountJan 05 19:11
cubexyzeven really old gamesJan 05 19:11
cubexyzI think there was one... trying to rememberJan 05 19:11
MinceRseems to me good products just aren't good business anymoreJan 05 19:11
MinceRwe'll have to homebrew everything eventuallyJan 05 19:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/817158485188214784Jan 05 19:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Valve Finally Makes Steam Work Out-of-the-Box withJan 05 19:12
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