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| cubexyz | ok, the web has hit a new low | Jan 22 19:51 |
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| cubexyz | this site has microsoft _and_ trump ads | Jan 22 19:51 |
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| cubexyz | oh, another bad thing Trump did... although it's history | Jan 22 19:57 |
| cubexyz | when the Bonwit Teller building was destroyed, a lot of the original art was supposed to be incorporated into the trump tower | Jan 22 19:58 |
| cubexyz | including Art Deco sculptures... | Jan 22 19:58 |
| cubexyz | Trump ordered them destroyed | Jan 22 19:59 |
| cubexyz | here's a pic of the original bulding: | Jan 22 20:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bonwit-teller-building-1956.jpg | Jan 22 20:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: read your words carefully. | Jan 22 20:08 |
| oiaohm | The original art was to be incorporated did not say on public display. | Jan 22 20:08 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it was supposed to be saved for a musuem I think | Jan 22 20:08 |
| oiaohm | That was not stated. | Jan 22 20:09 |
| oiaohm | So if it in a private room someone it passes the requirements. | Jan 22 20:10 |
| cubexyz | "To build his skyscraper, Trump first had to knock down the Bonwit Teller building, a luxurious limestone building erected in 1929. The face of the building featured two huge Art Deco friezes that the Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted to preserve. The museum asked Trump to save the sculptures and donate them, and the mogul agreed\u2014as long as the cost of doing so wasn't too high." | Jan 22 20:10 |
| cubexyz | instead the workers cut up the sculptures with acetylene torches | Jan 22 20:11 |
| cubexyz | here's a picture of the grill that was also supposed to be preserved: | Jan 22 20:14 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bonwit-teller-building-street-level.jpg | Jan 22 20:14 |
| oiaohm | The statues arguement can be made for their destruction as other cases when building have attempts to remove stuff like that people have died. | Jan 22 20:16 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways with those big lime stone reliefs making a mould and making a concrete copy on the ground is safer. | Jan 22 20:17 |
| oiaohm | that grill being lost there is no real defence for that. | Jan 22 20:19 |
| oiaohm | Please note to remove the reliefs in tacted its noted 10 extra days most that is due to risk of cracking and droping the things down to street level. | Jan 22 20:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the sad reality is when dissembling a building not all artwork can be saved due to public safety. But all artwork can be copied by one means or another these days. | Jan 22 20:22 |
| cubexyz | it seems wasteful knocking down a building that size after just 50 years | Jan 22 20:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't know on the Australian gold coast at lot of high risers are having to be knocked down and 40 years old due to be condemned due to structural failures caused by concrete cancer. | Jan 22 20:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so 50 years old the internal structure of the building can have failed. If that was the case attempting to move the sculptures would have been way more risky. | Jan 22 20:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we do need to start building in ways that are designed to last. | Jan 22 20:29 |
| cubexyz | right | Jan 22 20:29 |
| oiaohm | The biggest causes of concrete cancer is using normal steel that rusts and expands. | Jan 22 20:30 |
| cubexyz | Trump Tower is a concrete building also | Jan 22 20:32 |
| cubexyz | I assume it was better made than the original building | Jan 22 20:33 |
| oiaohm | https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-life-expectancy-of-concrete Its shocking to most people that for bridges and anything major structural at 50 years old they have to inspected and a judgement call made if it has any more life. | Jan 22 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is the life expectancy of concrete? - Quora | Jan 22 20:33 | |
| oiaohm | So even Trump Tower at 50 years old could be condemned. | Jan 22 20:34 |
| oiaohm | The reality is the concrete we use these days compared to Roman concrete is complete crap. | Jan 22 20:35 |
| cubexyz | aren't the roman aqueducts still in use? | Jan 22 20:36 |
| oiaohm | Roman Concrete is totally a different class is good for at least 700 years. | Jan 22 20:37 |
| cubexyz | wikipedia says it's more durable due to volcanic ash | Jan 22 20:39 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_concrete | Jan 22 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Roman concrete - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qdarf ] | Jan 22 20:39 | |
| cubexyz | "Usable examples of Roman concrete exposed to harsh marine environments have been found to be 2000 years old with little or no wear" | Jan 22 20:40 |
| cubexyz | gee, maybe we should start using that :) | Jan 22 20:41 |
| oiaohm | 700 years is roman concreted embedded with steel or the like that breaks down. | Jan 22 20:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this brings on the point of stupid. http://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/first-wood-highrise-building-portland If you can fire proof a wood highrise its good for 400 years. | Jan 22 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.architecturaldigest.com | America’s First Wood High-Rise Building to Debut in Portland | Architectural Digest [ http://ur1.ca/qdarw ] | Jan 22 20:43 | |
| cubexyz | trying to think of what the oldest 'skyscraper' would be | Jan 22 20:45 |
| cubexyz | I think 1880s | Jan 22 20:46 |
| cubexyz | flatiron building was built in 1903 | Jan 22 20:46 |
| cubexyz | so that's over 100 years | Jan 22 20:46 |
| cubexyz | not that old really | Jan 22 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/odarksideo/status/823332600836227073 | Jan 22 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials | Jan 22 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @odarksideo https://t.co/wcbi3qGLdS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 22 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZIavmeuB91 | Jan 22 20:47 |
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| oiaohm | Particularly when you compare it to these http://gizmodo.com/5846501/how-japans-oldest-wooden-building-is-still-standing | Jan 22 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | How Japan's Oldest Wooden Building Survives Giant Earthquakes [ http://ur1.ca/qdasg ] | Jan 22 20:47 | |
| cubexyz | ha, that's impressive | Jan 22 20:48 |
| oiaohm | 607AD built in wood multi story and scary enough its is almost totally original. | Jan 22 20:48 |
| cubexyz | seems it's main vulnerability was lightning | Jan 22 20:51 |
| oiaohm | lightning and fire are the wood building major vulnerablity. London england great history wood bridge went to fire. It had like 9 story highrises in the middle of the river. | Jan 22 20:52 |
| cubexyz | wood doesn't seem to be the safest building material :) | Jan 22 20:53 |
| oiaohm | The historic london bridge only stood for 300 years. | Jan 22 20:54 |
| oiaohm | Even with the risk of fire and other things wooden building on average out last their concrete equals | Jan 22 20:55 |
| cubexyz | hence the nursey rhyme "London Bridge is falling down" | Jan 22 20:55 |
| cubexyz | "build it up with wood and clay" :) | Jan 22 20:56 |
| oiaohm | Exactly that is what the historic bridge was made of. | Jan 22 20:56 |
| oiaohm | The adverage hieght of the bridge was 6 stories. | Jan 22 20:57 |
| oiaohm | The insanity if you wanted to cross from one side of London to the other it was faster to take a boat than attempt to walk across history London bridge. Due to the volume of trade on the bridge activity by foot it could take you 8 hours to cross it. | Jan 22 20:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes row a boat across the river manually was faster than the bridge. | Jan 22 20:59 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.claybrick.org/news/500-years-average-brick-lifespan << building built from brick also have a long lifespan. | Jan 22 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.claybrick.org | 500 years is the average brick lifespan | Clay Brick Association of South Africa [ http://ur1.ca/qdau4 ] | Jan 22 21:01 | |
| oiaohm | So the story of the 3 little pigs basically lists the 3 best building materials in order of failure. | Jan 22 21:02 |
| oiaohm | The 4 best is roman concrete | Jan 22 21:03 |
| oiaohm | https://sourceable.net/why-is-straw-bale-not-used-more-in-building-structures/ << yes formal tests into straw building construction its rated for 100 years of life span. | Jan 22 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceable.net | Why Is Straw Bale Not Used More in Building Structures? [ http://ur1.ca/qdauq ] | Jan 22 21:06 | |
| oiaohm | Note at least 100 years of lifespan. | Jan 22 21:06 |
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| cubexyz | those nursey rhymes were more informative than we realized :) | Jan 22 21:18 |
| cubexyz | from the chromebook (with crouton): | Jan 22 21:37 |
| cubexyz | "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.10.18 x86_64)" | Jan 22 21:38 |
| cubexyz | although 14.04 is probably passé | Jan 22 21:39 |
| oiaohm | Lot was hidden in nursery rhymes when information was passed by word of mouth not by writing. | Jan 22 21:59 |
| oiaohm | Of course today we like to forget about it. | Jan 22 21:59 |
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| cubexyz | hmmm, some LCD dislays use white LEDs placed around the edges | Jan 23 00:03 |
| cubexyz | displays | Jan 23 00:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some of the reflective LCD don't have a choice. | Jan 23 00:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the price of being highly power effective at times is not been perfect at anything. | Jan 23 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I was reading about TV License again. | Jan 23 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that at least one person was so annoyed by the letters and phone calls that he sent THEM a bill for wasting his time and then sued them when they didn't pay. He got the ruling and the BBC had to pay the court costs too. | Jan 23 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | That sounds like something that I would do. | Jan 23 01:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Trump's budget blueprint calls for eliminating all public funding for PBS and NPR. Might as well at this point. | Jan 23 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's already so low that it's being used as a sockpuppet for the rich. | Jan 23 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | They pay and in exchange, PBS doesn't air documentaries they don't want aired. | Jan 23 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that PBS costs taxpayers something like $445 million a year. | Jan 23 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284337/TV-licence-evader-refused-pay-BBC-covered-facts-9-11.html | Jan 23 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | TV licence evader refused to pay up because the 'BBC covered up facts about 9/11' | Daily Mail Online | Jan 23 02:02 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tv_licensing_successfully_sued | Jan 23 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TV Licensing successfully sued - a Freedom of Information request to British Broadcasting Corporation - WhatDoTheyKnow | Jan 23 02:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Peter Jones left an annotation (22 January 2015) | Jan 23 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ah, the old "we only paid up because we lost the court paperwork" gambit. Total codswallop. An uncorroborable and made-up excuse, like so many we hear from the BBC and TV Licensing. | Jan 23 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | The truth is that it wasn't in TV Licensing's interests to defend the claim. If it had done, and lost, then the story would be carried in every national newspaper across the land. | Jan 23 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | That's exactly the same reason why TV Licensing never presents detection evidence in open court. It knows that it would be suicide to do that, because the technology would be discredited in a single stroke. | Jan 23 02:04 |
| oiaohm | interesting question if the USA loses PBS/NPR will there be a government run tv station left. | Jan 23 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2587588/7-000-homes-block-visits-TV-licence-enforcers-Growing-numbers-taking-advantage-legal-loophole-means-threaten-sue-collectors-tresspass.html | Jan 23 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | 7,000 homes block visits from the TV licence enforcers: Growing numbers taking advantage of legal loophole | Daily Mail Online | Jan 23 02:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google Android One $200 Smartphones To Hit US Markets | Jan 23 02:39 |
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| cube-chrome | defunding PBS wouldn't be good | Jan 23 04:00 |
| cube-chrome | defunding NPR ditto | Jan 23 04:00 |
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| cube-chrome | we have TVO in Canada, and I assume there are a few other public tv channels | Jan 23 04:03 |
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| DaemonFC | cube-chrome, Public TV here is largely unwatched. | Jan 23 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's mostly cooking shows and old episodes of Bob Ross. | Jan 23 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some cartoons for children. | Jan 23 04:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australian ABC what is the government channel is in the show merchandising game. | Jan 23 04:33 |
| oiaohm | So the Australian government is unlikely to shutdown the ABC as that will equal less income. | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | [06:22] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I was reading about TV License again. | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Oh, them | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | what a sham | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | I can't have a large PC monitor | Jan 23 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | because all the large ones come with TV now | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | "smart TV" | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | I last checked yesterday at PC World | Jan 23 04:34 |
| cube-chrome | surely there's one that's not a tv | Jan 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | biggest screen that's not a TV is 32 inches only | Jan 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | and overpriced | Jan 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | cube-chrome: yes, but not very large | Jan 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | they just don't make them anymore | Jan 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | you could be more lucky a decade ago | Jan 23 04:36 |
| schestowitz | maybe there's lack of demand for large PC monitors now | Jan 23 04:36 |
| cube-chrome | hmmm, I don't like having a monitor that's too big | Jan 23 04:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I would have to look again but i thought UK had a tax on TV declared devices on the item. | Jan 23 04:38 |
| cube-chrome | all my monitors are pretty old, so I don't know what's up these days | Jan 23 04:40 |
| cube-chrome | and I have to consider amiga :) | Jan 23 04:41 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: the biggest standard LCD monitor I know of is a 40 inch monitor. | Jan 23 04:42 |
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| cube-chrome | I wonder if you could remove the tv tuner part from the monitor | Jan 23 04:44 |
| cube-chrome | just use it as a monitor | Jan 23 04:44 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: the biggest standard monitor I know is 40 inch by Philips. 4K | Jan 23 04:44 |
| oiaohm | When I say 40 inch standard monitor there is no tv tuner or speakers in it. | Jan 23 04:44 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: Issue with using a tv as a monitor is when you get close most the pixels are too large. | Jan 23 04:46 |
| cube-chrome | yeah even 40 inch is too big for me | Jan 23 04:47 |
| cube-chrome | I got a bunch of 17" LCDs | Jan 23 04:47 |
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| oiaohm | cube-chrome: 4K monitor is also good way to stress video card. | Jan 23 05:32 |
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| cube-chrome | I don't think I have anything that supports 4k :) | Jan 23 06:07 |
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| cubexyz | I don't think that the LCD monitor is too hard to figure out | Jan 23 06:51 |
| cubexyz | there's the power supply, inverter, main board, and timer controller | Jan 23 06:52 |
| cubexyz | I even have the service manual for a few lcd's | Jan 23 06:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/823501332908752896 | Jan 23 07:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: UK still drowning in legacy tech in Blighty's £700m data centre @schestowitz https://t.co/0IXUWCylu1 | Jan 23 07:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | UK.gov still drowning in legacy tech because no one's getting in Blighty's £700m data centre Ark • The Register | Jan 23 07:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5p3xtr/the_wayland_situation_facts_about_x_vs_wayland/ | Jan 23 07:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 23 07:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh god... I hate that this still gets traffic >< | Jan 23 07:10 |
| schestowitz | sigh | Jan 23 07:10 |
| schestowitz | Article author here. Taking questions. Be gentle. | Jan 23 07:10 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jan 23 07:10 |
| schestowitz | about phoronix | Jan 23 07:10 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jan 23 07:12 |
| cubexyz | X does not crash if you unplug the monitor | Jan 23 07:12 |
| cubexyz | that's nonsense | Jan 23 07:12 |
| cubexyz | don't know about wayland though | Jan 23 07:12 |
| cubexyz | I don't see any real info in that whole mess | Jan 23 07:16 |
| cubexyz | don't see any facts about X vs Wayland either | Jan 23 07:18 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29#Differences_between_Wayland_and_X | Jan 23 07:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Wayland (display server protocol) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qdctf ] | Jan 23 07:19 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the X11 crash when unplug and plugging monitors is in fact possible. Due to the fact X11 makes one huge image covering all monitors connected. | Jan 23 07:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically its one of those mega bugs in the X11 protocol. | Jan 23 07:26 |
| cubexyz | never seen that | Jan 23 07:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: possible does not mean easy to trigger. Note the word monitors not monitor. This is like if you connect 4 monitors at the same time. | Jan 23 07:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: wayland has it fixed because each output screen is it own image. No magic having to glue them into 1 big image. | Jan 23 07:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ch03.html#sect-Wayland-Architecture-wayland_architecture Note the basic structure here. When you have X11 with a compositing windows manager both the X11 server and the compositor has to handle the huge single image all monitors have to be on and the resize. | Jan 23 07:35 |
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| cubexyz | why not just run a X server for each monitor? | Jan 23 07:38 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure you can do that | Jan 23 07:38 |
| cubexyz | I think X runs a process for each ummm, not sure what the correct terminology is here | Jan 23 07:41 |
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| cubexyz | each displayname I think it's called | Jan 23 07:44 |
| cubexyz | you must mean some multi-headed display thing... maybe that could crash X, I don't know | Jan 23 07:46 |
| cubexyz | I remember some video cards had this special cable with two vga connectors | Jan 23 07:47 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what my TV set does, it's basically a linux computer | Jan 23 07:48 |
| cubexyz | there's definitely two X processes when I run two different window managers at the same time | Jan 23 07:51 |
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| cubexyz | also I would assume if you had two video cards in one computer it wouldn't be one big piece of memory | Jan 23 07:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: issue modern day video cards give each monitor connected a individual memory block. | Jan 23 07:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11 protocol for client side says that a client should be able to treat all monitors as if they are part of a single image. | Jan 23 07:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes plugin in a multi head with 3 monitors to a port ask for instant nightmare. | Jan 23 07:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically all monitors outputs as one big image made logical idea when x11 was first written because that is how it worked inside the video cards of that time. | Jan 23 08:00 |
| cubexyz | ok, guess I need to read this: "Volume 0: X Protocol Reference Manual" | Jan 23 08:14 |
| cubexyz | ok, I think I've overloaded my brain enough for one day... | Jan 23 08:24 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically all we really need to know about X11 protocol is that it was designed for how hardware was designed over 30+ years ago. Of course that has changed. | Jan 23 08:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: consider that X11 first protocol had no idea how to hotplug monitors | Jan 23 08:26 |
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| cubexyz | ok, chromeos + crouton just hit 4 days | Jan 23 17:22 |
| cubexyz | I made some adjustments to it | Jan 23 17:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/ZirKZP5zrj | Jan 23 17:24 |
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| cubexyz | ok, today's mission is to compile xrdb and have a look at exactly what it does | Jan 23 17:51 |
| cubexyz | it is an application of X11R7.3 | Jan 23 17:52 |
| cubexyz | at least it is in my particular case | Jan 23 17:52 |
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| cubexyz | has a blank INSTALL and blank README :-/ | Jan 23 17:53 |
| cubexyz | so really while X11R7.3 is the version of _everything_ here, each application has its own version number | Jan 23 18:06 |
| cubexyz | then everything seems to stop at X11R7.7 | Jan 23 18:11 |
| cubexyz | in 2012 | Jan 23 18:11 |
| cubexyz | so there is a X11R7.8 but it hasn't been released | Jan 23 18:13 |
| cubexyz | wikipedia page is out of date | Jan 23 18:15 |
| cubexyz | doesn't seem like the slack folks are going to bother with wayland for quite a while | Jan 23 18:23 |
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| cubexyz | ok, not a lot as changed X11-wise in the last few years | Jan 23 18:28 |
| cubexyz | there's a few distros using a prototype wayland | Jan 23 18:28 |
| MinceR | wayland is not going to be practical to run until they remove the systemd dependency from at least one implementation | Jan 23 18:30 |
| MinceR | correction: from at least one implementation that supports server-side decorations | Jan 23 18:30 |
| MinceR | if CSD is forced, i'm still better off with X | Jan 23 18:30 |
| cubexyz | huh... well that probably explains why there's no wayland for slack | Jan 23 18:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 23 18:34 |
| cubexyz | evidently I'm still in upstart-land with chromeos + ubuntu 14.04 (crouton) | Jan 23 18:45 |
| cubexyz | also I can report that all the old ioctl's I used in the past still work on that | Jan 23 18:51 |
| cubexyz | fd = open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR) etc etc | Jan 23 18:52 |
| cubexyz | termio, fcntl, ctype, etc | Jan 23 18:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Can Google's new watches save Android Wear? | Jan 23 19:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | IBM Gives Power Systems Rebates For Linux Workloads | Jan 23 19:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "the master branch of GTK+ has seen 106 commits, with | Jan 23 19:10 |
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| cubexyz | I consider chromebook + crouton to be an experiment | Jan 23 19:28 |
| cubexyz | going to stick with it for now | Jan 23 19:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 23 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823685879210373122 | Jan 23 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s LG-made Android Wear 2.0 watches possibly | Jan 23 19:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to Install Ubuntu Software, Ubuntu Touch Update | Jan 23 19:44 |
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| cubexyz | Mincer, I have a feeling this site is hungarian | Jan 23 20:01 |
| cubexyz | https://elektrotanya.com/ | Jan 23 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ElektroTanya | Service manuals and repair tips for electronics experts | Jan 23 20:01 | |
| cubexyz | can you see how to register? | Jan 23 20:01 |
| cubexyz | "My TV had old roach exoskeletons and roach feces" | Jan 23 20:19 |
| cubexyz | ok, seems I have to pass a test to get in | Jan 23 20:20 |
| cubexyz | yay, passed :) | Jan 23 20:26 |
| cubexyz | ok, electronics knowledge is just OK, not great | Jan 23 20:29 |
| cubexyz | hopefully the hungarians don't think I'm too dumb | Jan 23 20:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, it is | Jan 23 20:34 |
| MinceR | dunno about whether they think you're dumb or not | Jan 23 20:35 |
| MinceR | doesn't really matter what they believe | Jan 23 20:35 |
| cubexyz | well, maybe I'll learn a little hungarian | Jan 23 20:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 23 20:45 |
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| cubexyz | I'm finding bits and pieces of information, but not the exact service manual I'm looking for | Jan 23 20:51 |
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| cubexyz | a few years ago I know some of the web sites with service manuals were shut down | Jan 23 20:55 |
| cubexyz | it is really abuse of copyright law | Jan 23 20:56 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/czHvs | Jan 23 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Widely used WebEx plugin for Chrome will execute attack code—patch now! | Ars Technica | Jan 23 20:57 | |
| MinceR | fiasco systems does it again | Jan 23 20:57 |
| cubexyz | service manual hardly counts as a creative work | Jan 23 20:58 |
| cubexyz | Dell, HP and surpise! Lenovo all let you download service manuals for free | Jan 23 21:01 |
| MinceR | even fiasco's "fix" sucks | Jan 23 21:01 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trump declared his inauguration a national holiday. | Jan 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like something out of North Korea..... | Jan 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | "National Day of Patriotic Devotion" | Jan 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Can you believe this crap? Pretty soon, Dear Leader will come out and announce that the only approved hairstyle is the Godawful Combover. | Jan 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've always heard that when you run over an animal you're supposed to call the police and ask them to remove the carcass from the road. | Jan 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Trump put it on his head. | Jan 24 01:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Top 3: Arch Anywhere, Bitkey and Vinux | Jan 24 08:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplanet.com | Linux Top 3: Arch Anywhere, Bitkey and Vinux | Jan 24 08:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #krita is doing a User Survey! https://t.co/wZGLG1tIU4 | Jan 24 08:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | We’re doing a User Survey! | Krita | Jan 24 08:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 Gnome & HP Pavilion + Nvidia setup review | Jan 24 08:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Fedora 24 Gnome & HP Pavilion + Nvidia setup review | Jan 24 08:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Qt 5.9 feature freeze https://t.co/AqAhdmeKVy | Jan 24 08:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 Gnome & HP Pavilion + Nvidia setup review | Jan 24 08:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 24 Gnome & HP Pavilion + Nvidia setup review | Tux Machines | Jan 24 08:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Fedora 24 Gnome & HP Pavilion + Nvidia setup review https://t.co/f3tpxOVOEP https://t.co/LDxlpS8rH6 | Jan 24 08:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | A Pin Factory and Happy Hacking Linux | Jan 24 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jWfghPcUHi (medium.com) | Jan 24 09:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Pin Factory and Happy Hacking Linux – Azer Koçulu – Medium | Jan 24 09:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Asus takes on Raspberry Pi with 4K-capable Tinker Board | Jan 24 09:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Asus takes on Raspberry Pi with 4K-capable Tinker Board | Ars Technica | Jan 24 09:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ASUS "Tinker Board" https://t.co/RKNTZuqMef | Jan 24 09:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ASUS "Tinker Board" | Tux Machines | Jan 24 09:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Graphics https://t.co/GeoYdzQ8iy | Jan 24 09:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 24 09:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More of today's howtos https://t.co/1J65TGkMJw | Jan 24 09:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More of today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 24 09:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Leftovers https://t.co/73x4yOqXOS | Jan 24 09:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 09:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks What a President people have chosen for...' | Jan 24 09:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@TheGreenParty Brain Drain assured without it https://t.co/u0gT6F7YdG' | Jan 24 10:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailytelegraph.com.au | No Cookies | Daily Telegraph | Jan 24 10:06 | |
| oiaohm | That fun USA pulls out of TPP an China might replace them. | Jan 24 10:07 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@KimberlyMangus Most US citizens feel the same way...' | Jan 24 10:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@KimberlyMangus Fine, I "know nothing"; you know everything....' | Jan 24 10:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@GreenPartyUS #trumpTheSwamp will turn #water supplies into a...' | Jan 24 10:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823920317772902400 | Jan 24 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [The founder of Linux Malta] Ramon Casha, chairman of the | Jan 24 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | humanist association, passes away https://t.co/muuiBDyAZq | Jan 24 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [The founder of Linux Malta] Ramon Casha, chairman of the humanist association, passes away | Tux Machines | Jan 24 11:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: [The founder of Linux Malta] Ramon Casha, chairman of the humanist association, passes away https://t.co/muuiBDyAZq https://t.co/FO9kyn89V5 | Jan 24 11:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823929315196813312 | Jan 24 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wireless ready, 3.5-inch signage SBC runs Android | Jan 24 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Wireless ready, 3.5-inch signage SBC runs Android | Jan 24 11:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wireless ready, 3.5-inch signage SBC runs Android | Jan 24 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/s2O0l607il (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 24 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireless ready, 3.5-inch signage SBC runs Android | Tux Machines | Jan 24 11:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Padoka or Oibaf PPA for Ubuntu Gaming? Tell Us Which One | Jan 24 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Do You Prefer and Why https://t.co/N3y06KKj7s | Jan 24 11:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Padoka or Oibaf PPA for Ubuntu Gaming? Tell Us Which One | Jan 24 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Do You Prefer and Why https://t.co/cX5zwqdoYV | Jan 24 11:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Padoka or Oibaf PPA for Ubuntu Gaming? Tell Us Which One Do You Prefer and Why | Jan 24 11:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Virtual Programming are porting Arma: Cold War Assault | Jan 24 11:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Frog Climbers to Linux https://t.co/xcBxqLoZKm | Jan 24 11:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virtual Programming are porting Arma: Cold War Assault and Frog Climbers to Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 24 11:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/823932145278320640 | Jan 24 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/6kd5KVU9xn | Jan 24 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 24 11:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 24 12:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New SolydXK ISOs – 201701 https://t.co/iZempM6WxD | Jan 24 12:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New SolydXK ISOs – 201701 | SolydXK | Jan 24 12:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New SolydXK ISOs – 201701 https://t.co/lVscFsxm8X | Jan 24 12:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New SolydXK ISOs – 201701 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New SolydXK ISOs – 201701 https://t.co/lVscFsxm8X https://t.co/xh4K5Bg55z | Jan 24 12:34 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/01/24/4 | Jan 24 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | oss-security - Headsup: systemd v228 local root exploit (CVE-2016-10156) | Jan 24 13:19 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: seen it in a few mailing lists | Jan 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe it's a feature, but not for us | Jan 24 13:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 24 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823958561206181889 | Jan 24 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Do you need new features for your Samsung Z1 ? Upgrade to | Jan 24 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen 2.4 now! https://t.co/hi2zk2GTMN | Jan 24 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Do you need new features for your Samsung Z1 ? Upgrade to Tizen 2.4 now! - Tizen Experts | Jan 24 13:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/24/boring_vim_beats_exciting_browsers/ | Jan 24 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Oh, the things Vim could teach Silicon Valley's code slingers • The Register | Jan 24 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823960310604328960 | Jan 24 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Next Tizen smartphone could be Samsung SM-Z250F running | Jan 24 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen 3.0 ? https://t.co/u7s89Nr1IL | Jan 24 13:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Next Tizen smartphone could be Samsung SM-Z250F running Tizen 3.0 ? - Tizen Experts | Jan 24 13:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oh, the things Vim could teach Silicon Valley's code | Jan 24 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | slingers https://t.co/IQOMLSrJFd (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 24 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/IyGULysSFA | Jan 24 14:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 14:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/jdygQXfmUC | Jan 24 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/IJTZiaKWfe | Jan 24 14:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 24 14:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/bTl8RqRUbb | Jan 24 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/bMzFSUraSG | Jan 24 14:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/hgQ8TETqe2 | Jan 24 14:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 24 14:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen on More Phones https://t.co/7wIb6J0Gbn | Jan 24 14:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen on More Phones | Tux Machines | Jan 24 14:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks To date, I have cited this about...' | Jan 24 14:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #clinton used her media contacts to put...' | Jan 24 14:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks There was #clinton fear of various...' | Jan 24 14:40 | |
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| One | The Dutch court ruling against SUEPO was expected. | Jan 24 14:44 |
| One | There is no half immunity for diplomats. If a diplomat commits a crime he is withdrawn from his post but not tried and sentenced. | Jan 24 14:44 |
| One | They can sue the Dutch government on the matters in which the Dutch represeantative has voted against SUEPO. | Jan 24 14:46 |
| One | At least in the last votes he was against Battistelli. | Jan 24 14:46 |
| One | SUEPO should sue in those countries which constatnly voted for Battistelli´s proposals but they (in particular the ones that lost their jobs) regarded this as counterproductive. | Jan 24 14:47 |
| One | That was a mistake. | Jan 24 14:47 |
| One | It seems that Battistelli has won so far and there´s not much the staff can do. If people don´t want to strike they will just have to put up with whatever crosses little Erdogan´s mind. | Jan 24 14:49 |
| One | What happened in | Jan 24 14:50 |
| One | What happened at the EPO is a typical sign of the times, of the corruption that permeates international organisations and the complicity of the governments in perpetrating abuses against the staff. | Jan 24 14:51 |
| One | It only strengthens people´s distrust of European elites. | Jan 24 14:52 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@keast7544 @wikileaks anyone would have beaten crooked #clinton...' | Jan 24 14:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Desktop | Tux Machines | Jan 24 15:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android | Jan 24 15:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | handset gets even better https://t.co/aliBLWu7rt | Jan 24 15:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android handset gets even better | Tux Machines | Jan 24 15:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The best open source software 2017 | Jan 24 15:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The best open source software 2017 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 15:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS in the European Union https://t.co/XRAEifKZCS | Jan 24 16:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/wtVOoJWYh4 | Jan 24 16:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Resin.IO puts Linux and containers to work for IoT | Jan 24 17:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google releases final Android Wear 2.0 preview before | Jan 24 17:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | launch next month https://t.co/OIvMFbL6Jy | Jan 24 17:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google releases final Android Wear 2.0 preview before launch next month - The Verge | Jan 24 17:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Vertu's latest luxury Android phone is built for | Jan 24 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jetsetters https://t.co/40wPRKXlRF (www.engadget.com) | Jan 24 17:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Vertu's latest luxury Android phone is built for jetsetters | Jan 24 17:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824017653471838210 | Jan 24 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo tunes N23 Yoga Chromebook for Android apps with | Jan 24 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ARM processor https://t.co/7Sfj6UaYeu (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 24 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | also has CrossOver/Wine for Windows binaries | Jan 24 17:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lenovo tunes N23 Yoga Chromebook for Android apps with ARM processor | PCWorld | Jan 24 17:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Containers: Resin.IO and Platform9 | Jan 24 17:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers: Resin.IO and Platform9 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/8633071 | Jan 24 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Claque": how Trump revived the ancient practice of paid applauders http://boingboing.net/2017/01/24/claque-how-trump-revived.html #trump #alternativeFacts #astroturfing #payToPlay | Jan 24 17:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> boingboing.net | "Claque": how Trump revived the ancient practice of paid applauders / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/qdk20 ] | Jan 24 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824025873112244224 | Jan 24 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump i dont know if retweets are as valuable as getting a meeting with him and proving your case. | Jan 24 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824025873112244224 | Jan 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Not as much as on the sunbed | Jan 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SlowWaterMvmnt/status/824027138412212225 | Jan 24 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SlowWaterMvmnt: @darkcola2 @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump I dunno. He seems to spend more time on twitter than in meetings. | Jan 24 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824027362689949697 | Jan 24 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @SlowWaterMvmnt @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump lol- no he doesnt, & if u use this as an argument- then u dont learn the person. | Jan 24 17:56 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/america-you-look-like-an-arab-country-right-now-214678 | Jan 24 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-America, You Look Like an Arab Country Right Now - POLITICO Magazine | Jan 24 17:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824028073142222848 | Jan 24 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @schestowitz @SlowWaterMvmnt @GreenPartyUS @realDonaldTrump lol... if we are going to go for cheap jokes Ill pull out the joke book from 90s | Jan 24 17:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/walden_mathews/status/824030448288485377 | Jan 24 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@walden_mathews: @OdinOfAsgard078 @schestowitz @DrJillStein Give specifics if you think you do. So far just empty rhetoric. | Jan 24 18:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers | Jan 24 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Crash Relays, Clients https://t.co/6wYUMelIB1 | Jan 24 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers Crash Relays, Clients | Tux Machines | Jan 24 18:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers Crash Relays, Clients https://t.co/6wYUMelIB1 https://t.co/Evl7epxIPM | Jan 24 18:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo | Jan 24 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Backup and Recovery Tool https://t.co/nJINU3KiX2 | Jan 24 18:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo Backup and Recovery Tool | Tux Machines | Jan 24 18:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824059659803852800 | Jan 24 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping | Jan 24 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz i686 Support Soon https://t.co/VSdJD6HQFT | Jan 24 20:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping i686 Support Soon | Techrights | Jan 24 20:04 | |
| cubexyz | could be worse | Jan 24 20:10 |
| cubexyz | just imagine Bill Gates as president | Jan 24 20:10 |
| cubexyz | not to say that both aren't horrible | Jan 24 20:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure people are tired of losing all their jobs, hence the votes for trump | Jan 24 20:14 |
| cubexyz | http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/01/where-did-all-the-workers-go-60-years-of-economic-change-in-1-graph/252018/ | Jan 24 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Where Did All the Workers Go? 60 Years of Economic Change in 1 Graph - The Atlantic | Jan 24 20:16 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Bill Gates as USA president might not be ideal but at least he has built a company from nothing being a good accountant. The USA need a good accountant. | Jan 24 20:38 |
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| cubexyz | a sociopath... | Jan 24 20:41 |
| cubexyz | or to put it a different way... | Jan 24 20:42 |
| cubexyz | A ruthless schemer | Jan 24 20:42 |
| cubexyz | but all monopolies fall after a while | Jan 24 20:44 |
| MinceR | no, the USA needs someone who will work for it and its citizens, not against them | Jan 24 20:44 |
| cubexyz | the citizens, yes | Jan 24 20:45 |
| cubexyz | not sociopathic billionaires | Jan 24 20:45 |
| cubexyz | he's one of my favourite examples: | Jan 24 20:48 |
| cubexyz | " | Jan 24 20:48 |
| cubexyz | March of 1969, Allen went over to the University of Washington and began using a Xerox computer by pretending he was a graduate student. Gates soon followed and they used the UofW computer until an intolerant professor caught them at it and they were barred." | Jan 24 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824070972147953664 | Jan 24 20:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/G2mPEQPIjT | Jan 24 20:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 24 20:50 | |
| cubexyz | Kildall invented BIOS, not Gates | Jan 24 20:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/G2mPEQPIjT' | Jan 24 20:52 | |
| cubexyz | buried deep in the CP/M BIOS is some interesting stuff | Jan 24 20:53 |
| cubexyz | JMP PUNCH | Jan 24 20:53 |
| cubexyz | the paper tape punchout output routine | Jan 24 20:53 |
| cubexyz | s/punchout/punch/ | Jan 24 20:54 |
| cubexyz | new terminlogy: malanthropy | Jan 24 21:03 |
| cubexyz | proprietary software... tough to avoid it | Jan 24 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824072317441425408 | Jan 24 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/T29D6VSmiA | Jan 24 21:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 24 21:06 | |
| cubexyz | what do I always hear? | Jan 24 21:07 |
| cubexyz | "fix the black box" | Jan 24 21:07 |
| cubexyz | "work your magic" | Jan 24 21:07 |
| cubexyz | it's this unknowable mysterious thing that you can't fix | Jan 24 21:07 |
| cubexyz | here's another one: | Jan 24 21:08 |
| cubexyz | "Any modern Intel computer needs the Intel ME" <-- a harmful opaque binary | Jan 24 21:09 |
| cubexyz | how to avoid? | Jan 24 21:09 |
| cubexyz | well chromebooks... or "ancient" hardware | Jan 24 21:11 |
| cubexyz | ok one more... | Jan 24 21:11 |
| cubexyz | "make Hollywood trust your computer, not you" | Jan 24 21:12 |
| MinceR | how much do chromebooks do to avoid intel ME? | Jan 24 21:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah I guess the big question is which intel processors don't have it or... can you dd it out and still boot | Jan 24 21:53 |
| MinceR | also, what happens about intel boot guard in them? | Jan 24 22:02 |
| MinceR | is it used to lock in the coreboot version they come with, or not at all? | Jan 24 22:02 |
| cubexyz | the boot guard is no problem | Jan 24 22:02 |
| cubexyz | I can boot with custom firmware | Jan 24 22:02 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 24 22:03 |
| cubexyz | running sshd on chromebook was a pain to get working | Jan 24 22:07 |
| cubexyz | I think the chromebooks used in classrooms have remote administration | Jan 24 22:18 |
| cubexyz | so I figure those models of chromebooks have Intel ME | Jan 24 22:18 |
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| cubexyz | I know I don't have VPro | Jan 24 22:28 |
| MinceR | does that remote administration imply having access while the chromebook is supposed to be off and the like? | Jan 24 22:29 |
| cubexyz | yeah that's tricky | Jan 24 22:30 |
| cubexyz | how would you know if it was doing stuff at the ME level? | Jan 24 22:30 |
| cubexyz | it has a battery :) | Jan 24 22:31 |
| MinceR | is the battery removable? | Jan 24 22:31 |
| MinceR | at any rate, it's supposed to be a selling point in that context | Jan 24 22:31 |
| MinceR | so they'd probably advertise it | Jan 24 22:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, you can replace the battery, so it's removeable | Jan 24 22:32 |
| cubexyz | it's Baytrail-M | Jan 24 22:35 |
| cubexyz | oh well, I asked in coreboot... they should know if Intel ME is in everything intel or not | Jan 24 22:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 24 22:44 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what Intel Wireless Display is | Jan 24 22:58 |
| cubexyz | to make it even more confusing there's two different Bay Trail CPUs | Jan 24 22:59 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much DRM is in it | Jan 24 22:59 |
| MinceR | and how vulnerable it is | Jan 24 22:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and cubexyz http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/architecture-and-technology/widi-pro-widi-discontinued-notice.html WiDi was what was officially refereed to as Intel Wireless Display and that link says replaced by Miracast. Unless there is some Intel Wireless Display thing I don't know about. | Jan 24 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.intel.com.au | Intel® WiDi and Intel® Pro WiDi Applications Discontinued Notice | Jan 24 23:05 | |
| cubexyz | discontinued when? | Jan 24 23:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiDi 2015 | Jan 24 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | WiDi - Wikipedia | Jan 24 23:09 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, see if you can locate the datasheets for N2840 | Jan 24 23:10 |
| cubexyz | wow, I didn't even know WiDi existed | Jan 24 23:12 |
| oiaohm | http://ark.intel.com/products/82103/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2840-1M-Cache-up-to-2_58-GHz Yes the N2840 is a 2014 chip before Intel gave up on WiDi | Jan 24 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ark.intel.com | Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840 (1M Cache, up to 2.58 GHz) Specifications [ http://ur1.ca/qdlha ] | Jan 24 23:13 | |
| oiaohm | Intel stoped everything about WiDi in 2015 this including certifying hardware to support the protocol | Jan 24 23:14 |
| cubexyz | embedded options available: No | Jan 24 23:15 |
| cubexyz | that actually sounds good | Jan 24 23:15 |
| cubexyz | oh boy, this data sheet pdf is over a thousand pages | Jan 24 23:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember intel made WiDi with Microsoft so source code to-do it was not released to anyone. | Jan 24 23:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, there's no mention of "intel me" in the datasheet pdf | Jan 24 23:19 |
| cubexyz | one can 'chromecast' to an hdmi tv | Jan 24 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Me is part of the chipset not the cpu | Jan 24 23:20 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast Miracast and chromecast are the two remaining and Linux can to both to a point. | Jan 24 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - albfan/miraclecast: Connect external monitors to your system via Wifi-Display specification also known as Miracast | Jan 24 23:20 | |
| cubexyz | except I don't have the chromecast thing | Jan 24 23:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: rasbery pi can be made do both. | Jan 24 23:22 |
| cubexyz | neat | Jan 24 23:23 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: note no HDCP so no protected content with Miracast or chromecast done on a pi. | Jan 24 23:33 |
| cubexyz | so one can wirelessly mirror your chromebook's display to the tv | Jan 24 23:39 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: other than the fact the chromebook will want to look for HDCP so you cannot use a a device without protection. | Jan 24 23:50 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 25 02:57 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: Hi | Jan 25 02:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, hi hows you | Jan 25 02:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what you up to these days? | Jan 25 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Nothing much at the moment bare hating summer. | Jan 25 03:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | Jan 25 03:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah I am not liking winter much | Jan 25 03:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but nearly time to go to big geeky open source linux etc event | Jan 25 03:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in another country to since winter | Jan 25 03:05 |
| schestowitz | hi guys | Jan 25 03:11 |
| schestowitz | So Shiva Ayyadurai | Jan 25 03:11 |
| schestowitz | is threatening to sue JoinDiaspora | Jan 25 03:11 |
| schestowitz | and demanding takedown | Jan 25 03:11 |
| schestowitz | seems like he did the same to Twitter | Jan 25 03:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll do wordpress too | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | I want the media to know about this censorship | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | I informed the EFF | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | but am looking for more media contacts that may be interested | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | First Shiva Ayyadurai sued Gawker (news), for saying the truth about E-mail | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | Then sued TechDirt (blog) | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | Now threatens SOCIAL MEDIA sites | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | Which I think is a BIG story | Jan 25 03:12 |
| schestowitz | just not sure who would cover it | Jan 25 03:13 |
| schestowitz | ideas...? | Jan 25 03:13 |
| schestowitz | >> First Shiva Ayyadurai sued Gawker (news), for saying the truth about E-mail | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Then sued TechDirt (blog) | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Now threatens SOCIAL MEDIA sites | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | > Divide and conquer. If he takes them on one at a time and none band | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | > together and crush him, he will win if only one site at a time. | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | > He's such a charlatan I'm surprised he's not at M$ or hanging out with | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | > Gates. | Jan 25 03:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm already on contact with Mike Masnick regarding this threat. Looking for media contacts that may be interested. Told Doctorow and EFF. Anyone else? | Jan 25 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-01/ | Jan 25 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 51 — Mozilla | Jan 25 03:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Tons of problems with WebExtensions. | Jan 25 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | They really didn't need to come up with this thing. Firefox has always had an add-ons platform. | Jan 25 03:26 |
| schestowitz | heh | Jan 25 03:34 |
| schestowitz | who didn't see THAT coming? | Jan 25 03:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Trump's talking about invading Chicago. | Jan 25 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's already bad enough that Donald Trump is the president at all, but now he wants the federal government to take over Chicago and turn it into a military dictatorship with soldiers, curfews, checkpoints.... | Jan 25 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | Totally illegal. | Jan 25 03:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, oh? | Jan 25 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | SebthreeBQM10HD, Yeah, he said that if the Chicago Police can't get the crime down he'll "send in the feds". | Jan 25 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | He has no legal authority to do anything unless the state asks for his assistance. | Jan 25 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | Telling federal soldiers to invade and occupy a state will cause a constitutional crisis. | Jan 25 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | There are only two legal ways for the military to do civilian law enforcement. 1. The state governor can call up the state's National Guard units and order them to do that, subject to the laws of that state. 2. The state legislature and the governor (or just the governor if the emergency has prevented the legislature from coming into session) can ask the president to send in federal soldiers. | Jan 25 03:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Jan 25 03:58 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF0322&version=latest&session=90&session_number=0&session_year=2017 | Jan 25 03:58 |
| schestowitz | > Minnesota proposing authorizing governmental units to sue to recover for | Jan 25 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.revisor.mn.gov | HF 322 as introduced - 90th Legislature (2017 - 2018) | Jan 25 03:58 | |
| schestowitz | > the public safety response costs related to unlawful assemblies {sic} | Jan 25 03:58 |
| schestowitz | > and public nuisances {sic} | Jan 25 03:58 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for letting me know. Right now that matter is nothing I plan to blog about because some other stuff (especially Qualcomm, which is overcharging many mobile device makers, mostly Android companies, for wireless standard-essential patents) in the weeks and months ahead. If someone actually gets sued, please let me know. Take-down notices are not that spectacular. | Jan 25 03:59 |
| schestowitz | I think the importance is this is who's behind the takedowns and what goes on in parallel. | Jan 25 03:59 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I think Trump is the kind of guy who would ignore a court ruling and try to do anything he wanted to. | Jan 25 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | The courts have no way of enforcing their orders. If Trump wants to, he can easily create a constitutional crisis. | Jan 25 04:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Official Arch Linux ISO Image to Drop 32-bit (i686) Support Starting March 2017 | Tux Machines | Jan 25 07:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Official Arch Linux ISO Image to Drop 32-bit (i686) Support Starting March 2017 https://t.co/xGDUjBQBr1 https://t.co/OqD3AcO8ia | Jan 25 07:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824230870319960066 | Jan 25 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla Firefox 51 Is the First Web Browser to Support | Jan 25 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the New WebGL 2 Standard https://t.co/DMg583qaHl | Jan 25 07:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 51 Is the First Web Browser to Support the New WebGL 2 Standard | Tux Machines | Jan 25 07:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Mozilla Firefox 51 Is the First Web Browser to Support the New WebGL 2 Standard https://t.co/DMg583qaHl https://t.co/XZCBkhLM3R | Jan 25 07:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824230877181792256 | Jan 25 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BU and Red Hat Forge $5 Million Partnership | Jan 25 07:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BU and Red Hat Forge $5 Million Partnership | Tux Machines | Jan 25 07:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/GtYQv1RihY | Jan 25 07:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/70VFep9Ent | Jan 25 07:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Linux and Open Source Pros Daily! | Jan 25 07:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mJwxZaf79s (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines | Jan 25 07:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/ZnJY7hdCiD | Jan 25 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/v5W25e4OuO | Jan 25 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's New CFO and New Home for Fedora Cloud Base | Jan 25 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine and Games https://t.co/72ksA2dCGp | Jan 25 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/zBMKIj6Wi2 | Jan 25 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Container Standards and WebRTC-like Standards for the | Jan 25 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Things https://t.co/aS3QDmoD5D | Jan 25 08:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Cutelyst 1.3.0 released https://t.co/07d47vMKRM | Jan 25 08:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KaOS-2017.01 — a review https://t.co/r3Z6H4vLDU | Jan 25 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com | KaOS-2017.01 — a review | Thoughts on computing | Jan 25 08:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Avorion, a procedural co-op space sandbox is now on Linux | Jan 25 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and it looks awesome https://t.co/HBTiXRlbGJ | Jan 25 08:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Avorion, a procedural co-op space sandbox is now on Linux and it looks awesome | GamingOnLinux | Jan 25 08:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 3.0 To Be The Next Major Stable Release, More | Jan 25 08:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Bumping Ahead https://t.co/BQKdUFMtK9 | Jan 25 08:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Distro, systemd Exploit, KDE neon Scare | Jan 25 08:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "With the Budgie website now up and running, let us turn | Jan 25 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | our focus to the development of Budgie 11 itself." | Jan 25 09:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-budgie-desktop.org | Kicking Off Budgie 11 | Budgie | Jan 25 09:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 3.0 Plans https://t.co/e3S7hUvtBN | Jan 25 09:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 3.0 Plans | Tux Machines | Jan 25 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824258605369192450 | Jan 25 09:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Remarkable is a Remarkable Markdown Editor | Jan 25 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | Remarkable is a Remarkable Markdown Editor - My Linux Rig | Jan 25 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/824232807794929665 | Jan 25 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Trump 'to sign executive orders restricting immigration from some Muslim countries' https://t.co/RzbSg3AgmR religious minorities get asylum | Jan 25 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> shr.gs | NO TITLE | Jan 25 09:40 | |
| schestowitz | So he was not joking | Jan 25 09:40 |
| schestowitz | believe politicians the first time | Jan 25 09:40 |
| schestowitz | not after damage control | Jan 25 09:40 |
| schestowitz | having said that, the source isn't so trustworthy http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/758491/donald-trump-executive-order-restricting-immigration-muslim-countries-iraq-iran-libya | Jan 25 09:41 |
| schestowitz | tabloid | Jan 25 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Donald Trump 'to sign executive orders restricting immigration from Muslim countries' | World | News | Daily Express | Jan 25 09:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824259319835357184 | Jan 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.10-rc5 | Jan 25 09:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "+NAME = Anniversary Edition" | Jan 25 09:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824266842130685952 | Jan 25 09:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solaris Not Dead https://t.co/DEyqL6rkXD | Jan 25 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop GNU/Linux/Chromebook https://t.co/6gbPEjdLEQ | Jan 25 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux https://t.co/ZcCxYRd0zC | Jan 25 09:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Avorion and Unigine https://t.co/9BVep1Lp9m | Jan 25 09:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 25 09:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Avorion and Unigine | Tux Machines | Jan 25 09:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824266850829672448 | Jan 25 09:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros News https://t.co/cIZASreMZK | Jan 25 09:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux Machines | Jan 25 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wardleymaps/status/824165924303474688 | Jan 25 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wardleymaps: @ngoede @drnic I do not think Apple was equally fierce. https://t.co/n7FTyit5m8 https://t.co/LfduERQXhe | Jan 25 09:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824268743425593344 | Jan 25 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @charlie_savage @schestowitz Malinowski has a strong opinion esp at the end. Trump as a leader does invite debate among his staff. | Jan 25 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/notinabluemoon/status/824269622602035200 | Jan 25 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@notinabluemoon: Another promise kept #KeepAmericaSafeAgain @POTUS @mike_pence @KellyannePolls https://t.co/xSnhgXfArf | Jan 25 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #trump was not joking about banning Muslims, i.e. about a quarter of the world's population https://t.co/AUIWuNtZOT | Jan 25 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlairTroy/status/824269803603038208 | Jan 25 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BlairTroy: @schestowitz even a smart man like you knows there is a diff between restriction and banning. | Jan 25 09:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlairTroy/status/824269803603038208 | Jan 25 10:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/notinabluemoon/status/824270228876103681 | Jan 25 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@notinabluemoon: not "muslims" muslim countries that support ISIS @schestowitz its called #KeepAmericaSafeAgain | Jan 25 10:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824266853199425537 | Jan 25 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uTr5Z97tuy | Jan 25 11:08 |
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| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/thoughts_on_the_systemd_root_exploit | Jan 25 11:55 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2z88XTXcAAOzYD.jpg:large | Jan 25 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, do catholics recognise russian orthodox holy water as holy? | Jan 25 12:24 |
| MinceR | probably neither works on undead anyway | Jan 25 12:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Both can turn people in their graves though. | Jan 25 12:29 |
| MinceR | someone should connect a generator to them, then | Jan 25 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe that was the business idea of that protester :). | Jan 25 12:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 25 12:30 |
| XRevan86 | not a grave but that only makes it easier – no need to dig | Jan 25 12:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus_paintings_in_Bhutan http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/magazine/blogs/wander-woman/true-meaning-of-bhutan-phallic-obsession | Jan 25 12:38 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/cYJKMbZ.jpg | Jan 25 13:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GeckoLinux "Rolling" and "Static" editions updated to fix | Jan 25 14:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bugs https://t.co/Hu4a8KNAyW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 25 14:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2374.html | Jan 25 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824347917406392320 | Jan 25 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stretch preparations before the freeze | Jan 25 15:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L9qhl5903w (balintreczey.hu) | Jan 25 15:23 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: nice... | Jan 25 15:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@Suzyiam @wikileaks #clinton is no longer calling any...' | Jan 25 15:54 | |
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| XRevan86 | > The whole world was watching for the inauguration of the 45th president of the United States | Jan 25 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't %). | Jan 25 16:01 |
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| MinceR | neither was i | Jan 25 16:02 |
| MinceR | but then i'm used to being excluded from groups | Jan 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 25 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | Not the best Monty Python reference in the clip. | Jan 25 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | > She is from the ministry of Silly Walks | Jan 25 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | not an elegant reference, pretty much to the face | Jan 25 16:06 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what they had Agent Orange audio clips for | Jan 25 16:07 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1788/ | Jan 25 17:33 |
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| MinceR | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/eff-proud-stand-beside-techdirt-its-first-amendment-fight-its-life | Jan 25 18:26 |
| schestowitz | I just posted that, too | Jan 25 18:26 |
| schestowitz | well, they now bully me, too | Jan 25 18:26 |
| MinceR | this shiva guy? | Jan 25 18:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/a3sJyGXuWM | Jan 25 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Jan 25 18:40 |
| cubexyz | ok it's been confirmed, intel baytrail-m CPUs have intel me | Jan 25 18:42 |
| cubexyz | or the chipset does, the details are still a bit foggy | Jan 25 18:42 |
| cubexyz | Intel ME used to reside in the network card but it's moved several times | Jan 25 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824398968759070721 | Jan 25 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/9NFvxMGj9H | Jan 25 18:47 |
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| cubexyz | in 2011 they talked about ME activation | Jan 25 18:48 |
| cubexyz | so it (motherboards) would be shipped with ME turned off | Jan 25 18:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly true. ME with the ARC instruction set comes from network cards. ME enters motherboards when intel cpu started needing microcode to fire up. | Jan 25 18:53 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: some motherboards the ME controller is the keyboard controller so turning ME completely off is no Keyboard. This is why when people would say ME is off because it has not been sent firmware in the past was so wrong it was not funny in many cases. | Jan 25 18:57 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that sounds wrong... | Jan 25 19:01 |
| cubexyz | when I was working on coreboot for Tyan, I learned that the keyboard controller was really part of the superio's functions | Jan 25 19:01 |
| cubexyz | e.g. NSC PC87309 | Jan 25 19:02 |
| cubexyz | now I don't know if that was changed later | Jan 25 19:02 |
| oiaohm | thinkpad laptops today the laptop keyboard controller is the ME unit | Jan 25 19:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes there was a lot saying hey these thinkpad laptops can fire up without a ME firmware but all it was doing was droping back to ME controller internal firmware. | Jan 25 19:03 |
| oiaohm | Intel has got kinda savage with current ME default firmware design. If a ME has a default embedded and its not replaced the system will shutdown when 30 min expires. | Jan 25 19:04 |
| cubexyz | my other computer has VIA VT82C686A | Jan 25 19:05 |
| cubexyz | the southbridge | Jan 25 19:05 |
| cubexyz | so is the Intel ME part of the southbridge chip? | Jan 25 19:05 |
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| oiaohm | Depends on the chipset some the ME is it own standalone chip some its embedded. | Jan 25 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824408030905184258 | Jan 25 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 Officially Released, Based on | Jan 25 19:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie 11 Desktop Environment Development Kicks Off, Will | Jan 25 19:06 |
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| cubexyz | some folks talk about enabling the intel management engine... | Jan 25 19:06 |
| cubexyz | that sounds like the computer is shipped with intel me turned off | Jan 25 19:07 |
| cubexyz | where do I find more info on this? | Jan 25 19:08 |
| oiaohm | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt this is not the best. | Jan 25 19:09 |
| oiaohm | The thing is that ME is a programable microcontroller on the motherboard. It can do many different things. | Jan 25 19:09 |
| oiaohm | Some highly important like power management. | Jan 25 19:10 |
| cubexyz | ok, when did this start? | Jan 25 19:10 |
| cubexyz | and I don't have /dev/mei on the FC1 system (probably way too old) | Jan 25 19:11 |
| cubexyz | don't have it on the chromebook either | Jan 25 19:11 |
| cubexyz | huh, wikipedia talks about the northbridge | Jan 25 19:13 |
| oiaohm | Chromebooks some use the google made EC instead. | Jan 25 19:13 |
| oiaohm | Because something has to send different intel cpus there fire up microcode. | Jan 25 19:13 |
| oiaohm | The fire up microcode from the ME is why you see motherboards all with the same socket only have to take particular intel cpus. | Jan 25 19:14 |
| oiaohm | and if you insert a cpu that the motherboard does not have the microcode for its not starting. | Jan 25 19:14 |
| oiaohm | Basically the ME starts first then the CPU. | Jan 25 19:15 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1789/ | Jan 25 19:15 |
| MinceR | afaik there was a way to circumvent that 30 minute thing | Jan 25 19:16 |
| oiaohm | Also the mei interface is http://ark.intel.com/products/31917/Intel-82Q33-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller around 2007 but that is not the first ME controller that is when we got to be able to interface with it. | Jan 25 19:16 |
| MinceR | so, do chromebooks work without the intel ME and with google's EC instead? | Jan 25 19:17 |
| cubexyz | that's what I'm not sure about | Jan 25 19:17 |
| oiaohm | depends on model and make of chromebooks. Some have google EC some have intel ME. | Jan 25 19:17 |
| oiaohm | But some chip has to fire up the intel cpu. | Jan 25 19:18 |
| oiaohm | If it has a intel cpu. | Jan 25 19:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sorry no only way to stop the 30 min termination in a generation of intel ME that has that is upload a replacement firmware to it from the motherboard firmware image. 30 min is so you can write a new firmware image. Of course that firmware could be just a basic ME init and stop firmware. | Jan 25 19:19 |
| MinceR | afaik they only zeroed part of the firmware | Jan 25 19:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the extra addon blocks to the ME leaving the basic ME intel and cpu power management stuff alone. | Jan 25 19:20 |
| oiaohm | opps ME intel should be ME init | Jan 25 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824408039973281793 | Jan 25 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/EGJqXrjU3n | Jan 25 19:21 |
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| oiaohm | Basically you cannot disable ME completely and have a stable system but you can limit is functionality. | Jan 25 19:21 |
| cubexyz | it seems it's part of the PCH or Platform Controller Hub | Jan 25 19:22 |
| cubexyz | introduced in 2008 | Jan 25 19:22 |
| oiaohm | The 82Q33 from 2007 contains a ME with the MEI interface cubexyz | Jan 25 19:22 |
| cubexyz | so you have to talk about what era you're dealing with | Jan 25 19:23 |
| oiaohm | There are ME controllers older than that. | Jan 25 19:23 |
| oiaohm | Except with no program interface from OS side. | Jan 25 19:23 |
| cubexyz | what does it _do_? | Jan 25 19:23 |
| MinceR | that's a trade secret ;) | Jan 25 19:24 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing its a jack of many trades if you read the mei.txt it lists a few different uses. | Jan 25 19:24 |
| cubexyz | do all motherboards have this ARC processor you mentioned? | Jan 25 19:24 |
| oiaohm | Motherboard makers get the development kit from Intel to add their own modules to it. | Jan 25 19:24 |
| oiaohm | The current generation ME are not ARC processor any more. | Jan 25 19:25 |
| oiaohm | http://hackaday.com/2016/01/22/the-trouble-with-intels-management-engine/ | Jan 25 19:28 |
| oiaohm | ARC, ARCompact, and SPARC V8 << yes 3 instruction sets and counting. | Jan 25 19:29 |
| oiaohm | Yes finding a smaller Sparc cpu on an intel motherboard that is like super warped. | Jan 25 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824411819372584961 | Jan 25 19:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 25/1/2017: Managed Kubernetes Service, Wine 2.0 | Jan 25 19:31 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: and intel atoms don't have a ME but have a security processor that does basically the same things like sending microcode into the cpu so it can work. | Jan 25 19:36 |
| cubexyz | really what I want is assurances that my computer can't be remotely controlled | Jan 25 19:36 |
| MinceR | i guess we'll have to build our own cpu-s for that :> | Jan 25 19:36 |
| oiaohm | Really hard with ME/security controllers when what they are running cannot be decoded and audited. | Jan 25 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824415845153734656 | Jan 25 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 Officially Released, Based on | Jan 25 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Jessie, GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/ZJu9IFlu0s | Jan 25 19:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Brings Kubernetes 1.5.2 Container Orchestration | Jan 25 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/YC3d39Re27 | Jan 25 19:39 |
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| cubexyz | well at least my amiga doesn't have Intel ME :-P | Jan 25 19:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: what makes it hard to prevent having to connect KVM switch items to computers intel built a module for the ME controller that provides KVM functionality by network. So ME with correct module can absolutely allow complete remote control as if the person is sitting at the computer. | Jan 25 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824416348914810880 | Jan 25 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First antiX 17 Linux Net Images Are Based on Debian | Jan 25 19:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @TecnologiaFree retweeted @tuxmachines: 'First antiX 17 Linux Net Images Are Based...' | Jan 25 19:41 | |
| cubexyz | also I'm trying an experiment tonight... | Jan 25 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824416833843257344 | Jan 25 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Brings Kubernetes 1.5.2 Container Orchestration | Jan 25 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/bHRrRbN9zh | Jan 25 19:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/WVkypokrLP | Jan 25 19:41 |
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| cubexyz | can the chromebook play mplayer and output to the HDTV | Jan 25 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824416840776441856 | Jan 25 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First antiX 17 Linux Net Images Are Based on Debian | Jan 25 19:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation: Microsoft and Hitachi | Jan 25 19:41 |
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| cubexyz | chromebook + crouton/ubuntu, I'm betting it works | Jan 25 19:41 |
| cubexyz | actually I already know it works going via the VGA connector... did that already | Jan 25 19:42 |
| cubexyz | the content isn't encrypted so game over :) | Jan 25 19:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember why cannot malware flash firmware. Current design allowing firmware to be flashed from the OS without authorisation and having a item built into computer that can be a remote KVM hello problem no matter what you do. | Jan 25 19:43 |
| cubexyz | not really | Jan 25 19:43 |
| cubexyz | we talked about that before.... if the BIOS is socketed you can yank it out and reprogram it | Jan 25 19:44 |
| cubexyz | I did that for gigabyte ga-bxc | Jan 25 19:44 |
| oiaohm | That is if you have noticed that it has been done. | Jan 25 19:45 |
| oiaohm | This is where bios write protect options are kinda important. | Jan 25 19:45 |
| cubexyz | couldn't you do a md5sum check or something? | Jan 25 19:45 |
| oiaohm | As well as auditting. | Jan 25 19:45 |
| MinceR | too bad physical switches and flash sockets are so expensive :> | Jan 25 19:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: motherboards bios is flash socketed but a lot lack a write protect switch. | Jan 25 19:46 |
| cubexyz | this motheboard has a jumper for bios write protection: | Jan 25 19:46 |
| oiaohm | Or jumper. | Jan 25 19:47 |
| cubexyz | ECS P4M800PRO-M478 | Jan 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | yeah, jumpers are too expensive too | Jan 25 19:47 |
| oiaohm | How many people remove the jumper. | Jan 25 19:47 |
| cubexyz | well first it has to _have_ a jumper :-P | Jan 25 19:47 |
| MinceR | good thing we have this enormous mountain of bloat called "UEFI" which has no costs at all :> | Jan 25 19:47 |
| oiaohm | The bloat of UEFI is a good destraction not to look at what is under it like the ME or TPM. | Jan 25 19:48 |
| cubexyz | I don't have UEFI, I have coreboot :) | Jan 25 19:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, Gigabyte GA-BXC is 1998 | Jan 25 19:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that has a ME controller but its too old to have the KVM functionality. It has the old ME that basically answers acpi calls and uploads cpu microcode and no control interface. | Jan 25 19:51 |
| oiaohm | The really old ME controllers are a black box but a black box that cannot do anything too bad. | Jan 25 19:52 |
| cubexyz | hopefully it's a benign Intel ME | Jan 25 19:52 |
| oiaohm | As intel expanded the functionality of the ME controller things changed until it come a spider connected everywhere with no way of effectively auditing it. | Jan 25 19:52 |
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| cubexyz | althought exactly which chip has the intel ME is still a question | Jan 25 19:53 |
| oiaohm | A little controller that searches the firmware finds the microcode for the cpu on the board and uploads it really cannot do that bad. | Jan 25 19:53 |
| cubexyz | I guess I'll have a closer look at the board | Jan 25 19:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you are looking at the Northridge core chip on that motherboard. Yes intel has not with the ME worked out if it should be stuffed inside the memory controller in the northbridge or be its own chip and keeps on changing mind. | Jan 25 19:57 |
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| oiaohm | If ME had stayed with its early functionality only it would really not be a security hazard. Little power management and loading the right mircocode into cpu from firmware so cpu starts up correctly even if it has a bug or two that is all the first ME controllers do. | Jan 25 19:58 |
| cubexyz | I think that's just the intel i440bx chip | Jan 25 19:59 |
| oiaohm | the ME controller in i440bx is super basic. | Jan 25 19:59 |
| cubexyz | inititalizes ram, and does some acpi stuff | Jan 25 19:59 |
| oiaohm | don't forget reads the bios firmware image finds the microcode for the cpu and shoves that into cpu before the cpu fires up the first time. So if your cpu has a fault that can be fixed by microcode it fixed before first line of firmware is run by the cpu. | Jan 25 20:00 |
| oiaohm | The cpu fix feature of ME is great. | Jan 25 20:01 |
| MinceR | the "feature" i'm worried about is the backdoor | Jan 25 20:01 |
| cubexyz | actually I can see in the logs that coreboot attempts to update the microcode, but then doesn't do anything | Jan 25 20:02 |
| cubexyz | it's the same microcode before and after | Jan 25 20:02 |
| cubexyz | Pentium 2 slot 1 I think | Jan 25 20:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is when there is a backdoor for network maintenance in the modern ME being a network KVM interface being sure there that there is not another one is very hard or that the build in one has not been activated. | Jan 25 20:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 25 20:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: coreboot attempting to update microcode from the firmware image and find it always current is because the ME controller is beating it to the punch. | Jan 25 20:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course coreboot has to check because some ME controllers firmwares were stuffed and failed to perform microcode updating. | Jan 25 20:05 |
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| cubexyz | I can't help thinking that if I designed a computer it wouldn't have all this complexity | Jan 25 20:53 |
| cubexyz | dmidecode says some odd things | Jan 25 21:08 |
| cubexyz | the port connector info is listed as reference designator: USB | Jan 25 21:08 |
| cubexyz | but then it says the internal connector type is Centronics | Jan 25 21:09 |
| cubexyz | definitely seems wrong | Jan 25 21:11 |
| cubexyz | probably a bug | Jan 25 21:12 |
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| cubexyz | stop whining and start WINE-ing! :) | Jan 25 21:31 |
| cubexyz | "starting with ME 7.1 the ARC processor can execute signed Java applets" | Jan 25 22:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note that is version 7.1 so there were a lot of versions before that. Yes Jeff files form of java. | Jan 25 22:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the basic idea of ME is ok but then they have extended it to insanity. | Jan 25 22:45 |
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| cubexyz | well there's talk of decapping and x-raying chips | Jan 25 23:25 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what stallman thinks of all this | Jan 25 23:29 |
| cubexyz | I heard google is working on their own CPU | Jan 25 23:30 |
| cubexyz | everytime I think I'm getting a handle on this stuff I discover more stuff | Jan 25 23:39 |
| cubexyz | so maybe Apple, Microsoft and Google will end up making their own CPUs | Jan 25 23:52 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, ever heard of Odroid-C2? | Jan 25 23:55 |
| cubexyz | no Intel ME on that :) | Jan 25 23:55 |
| cubexyz | https://puri.sm/posts/petition-for-intel-to-release-an-me-less-cpu-design/ | Jan 25 23:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel cpus are more needing microcode from somewhere. So me less is not practical. Now something like chrome EC that is a fully documented and open source ME secured by some true hardware way. | Jan 26 01:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember when they did so called ME less with atom they renamed it security processor. | Jan 26 01:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Trimming Power on an Oceanographic Lab in a Can | Jan 26 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trimming Power on an Oceanographic Lab in a Can | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 26 10:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New ISO images for LMDE 2 “Betsy” – BETA Release | Jan 26 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » New ISO images for LMDE 2 “Betsy” – BETA Release | Jan 26 10:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Metamorphose 2 Bulk Rename Tool Available In PPA For | Jan 26 10:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | MATE Dock Applet Sees New Release | Jan 26 11:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Shadow of Mordor Updated For Linux With Performance | Jan 26 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fixing Shadow of Mordor for GNU/Linux | Jan 26 12:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fixing Shadow of Mordor for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "This Linux controlled "lab in a can" was developed to | Jan 26 12:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running an Undersea, Robotic Laboratory on a Fixed Energy Budget - Brent Roman | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 26 12:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation Teaching https://t.co/SjDOVoEzxR | Jan 26 12:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Events: LCA, FOSDEM17, and Embedded Linux Conference | Jan 26 12:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/5nLNpxvoEP | Jan 26 12:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Development and Development Teams | Tux Machines | Jan 26 12:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Openwashing https://t.co/TikW1v0Dfb (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing | Tux Machines | Jan 26 13:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/VyeXFO3XFu | Jan 26 13:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | In Search of an Open Source DNS Server | Jan 26 13:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | RPi expansion boards support up to 40-Pi clusters | Jan 26 13:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More Linux on my new notebook: Fedora, Linux Mint and | Jan 26 13:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Linux on my new notebook: Fedora, Linux Mint and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 26 13:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GoboLinux: Questioning the Linux File Hierarchy | Jan 26 14:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/rTTRgjkrBE | Jan 26 14:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GoboLinux: Questioning the Linux File Hierarchy | Jan 26 15:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 https://t.co/t1sSlicmaZ | Jan 26 15:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | It's about me: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170111/11440836465/techdirts-first-amendment-fight-life.shtml | Jan 26 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/qbm1w ] | Jan 26 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | Oops, wrong link | Jan 26 15:54 |
| schestowitz | This one https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170125/14550136565/legal-threats-charles-harder-shiva-ayyadurai-targeting-more-speech.shtml | Jan 26 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Threats By Charles Harder & Shiva Ayyadurai Targeting More Speech | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/qe2aq ] | Jan 26 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/824722213936963587 | Jan 26 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @TimCushing @techdirt .@schestowitz have you seen this? @EFF @ACLU This is outrageous! @Popehat https://t.co/OnlzYjj3OB | Jan 26 15:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Gawker went out of business because of sleazy practices outing thiel against his wishes." | Jan 26 15:57 |
| schestowitz | "|And doing things a billionaire doesn't like is a very serious crime." | Jan 26 15:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Cutting power consumption on a Linux-based undersea | Jan 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | robotics lab https://t.co/BaHWVQvLQM | Jan 26 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cutting power consumption on a Linux-based undersea robotics lab | Tux Machines | Jan 26 17:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Cutting power consumption on a Linux-based undersea robotics lab https://t.co/BaHWVQvLQM https://t.co/gy1dxTcxlm | Jan 26 17:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for | Jan 26 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/xmGDREGvMS | Jan 26 17:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 17:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/xmGDREGvMS https://t.co/9JE412M0zj | Jan 26 17:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLArtForce @wikileaks @voguemagazine Obama never pardoned #snowden and...' | Jan 26 18:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD | Jan 26 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/gpN7SvEq4B | Jan 26 18:08 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 26 18:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu...' | Jan 26 18:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ribeirospost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 26 18:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hello KubeVirt | Jan 26 19:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Remote control your Samsung Tizen smartphone using your | Jan 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | earphones https://t.co/3jBQbFTvWc (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 26 19:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Remote control your Samsung Tizen smartphone using your earphones - Tizen Experts | Jan 26 19:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824772586030653441 | Jan 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 25 Taipei Release Party report | Jan 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oYkp4bjvHW (communityblog.fedoraproject.org) | Jan 26 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | FCAIC in the House, part II - Fedora Magazine | Jan 26 19:17 | |
| cubexyz | wow, Trump is muzzling the EPA and the national park service | Jan 26 19:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-epa-usda-information-ban | Jan 26 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump Is Really Going to Destroy the Earth, Huh? | GQ | Jan 26 19:39 | |
| cubexyz | "Barring public access to objectively verfiable data gleaned from taxpayer-funded scientific inquires" | Jan 26 19:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824773182842339328 | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | HTC will have 'another flagship' with Snapdragon 835 | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ad1bGvBzYo (www.androidcentral.com) | Jan 26 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 19:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | HTC will have 'another flagship' with Snapdragon 835 | Android Central | Jan 26 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes | Jan 26 19:53 |
| schestowitz | you read the news slowly :-) | Jan 26 19:53 |
| schestowitz | it's like news from, well... 2 days ago ;-) | Jan 26 19:53 |
| cubexyz | spent hours yesterday studying the intel ME thing | Jan 26 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I used to follow EPA | Jan 26 19:53 |
| schestowitz | All year long | Jan 26 19:54 |
| schestowitz | after your recommendation | Jan 26 19:54 |
| schestowitz | They had an rss feed | Jan 26 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I've deleted that, just recently | Jan 26 19:54 |
| schestowitz | after a year | Jan 26 19:54 |
| schestowitz | they're now Trump's pawn | Jan 26 19:54 |
| schestowitz | headed by his man, Scott something IIRC | Jan 26 19:54 |
| cubexyz | Scott Pruitt I think | Jan 26 19:55 |
| cubexyz | https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/as-the-planet-warms-senators-shrug/513746/ | Jan 26 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | As the Planet Warms, Trump's EPA Director Hedges - The Atlantic | Jan 26 19:57 | |
| cubexyz | I wonder what his science background is :-/ | Jan 26 19:57 |
| cubexyz | oh great... | Jan 26 19:58 |
| cubexyz | "Pruitt has no formal scientific or environment training" | Jan 26 19:58 |
| cubexyz | s/environment/environmental/ | Jan 26 19:58 |
| cubexyz | and he sued the EPA a bunch of times as Attorney General of Oklahoma | Jan 26 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824780126248370177 | Jan 26 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat doubles down on a deal driver: #OpenShift | Jan 26 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/phnHQWEqNe (www.bizjournals.com) | Jan 26 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Iegf9aiDGY (www.railway-technology.com) | Jan 26 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yVSnb2HUJf (it-online.co.za) | Jan 26 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Red Hat doubles down on a deal driver: OpenShift - Triangle Business Journal | Jan 26 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.railway-technology.com | SBB uses Red Hat OpenShift Container Platform for freight network - Railway Technology | Jan 26 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it-online.co.za | Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) deploys Red Hat | IT-Online | Jan 26 19:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824783820775968771 | Jan 26 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for | Jan 26 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/0f0YDsUCvc | Jan 26 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 26 20:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 | Jan 26 20:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824784068005003265 | Jan 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD | Jan 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/8fQpzIptEX | Jan 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/mewgQHBfqC | Jan 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 26 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD 7xxx/8xxx Support | Jan 26 20:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 20:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Released - Phoronix | Jan 26 20:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jan 26 20:05 | |
| cubexyz | the EPA rss feed is probably still useful, even if Scott Pruitt is a trump stooge | Jan 26 20:07 |
| cubexyz | http://www.epa.gov/newsroom/rssfeeds.htm | Jan 26 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epa.gov | Newsroom | US EPA | Jan 26 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824786358635986945 | Jan 26 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jonathan Blow states he is open to a Linux port of The | Jan 26 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Witness with Vulkan, but never with OpenGL | Jan 26 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9muoTQrzhJ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 26 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jonathan Blow states he is open to a Linux port of The Witness with Vulkan, but never with OpenGL | GamingOnLinux | Jan 26 20:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824786771212980224 | Jan 26 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Civilization VI has entered final testing for Linux, | Jan 26 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | could release soon, should be on sale too | Jan 26 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iU9fmBzNKK (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 26 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Civilization VI has entered final testing for Linux, could release soon, should be on sale too | GamingOnLinux | Jan 26 20:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu...' | Jan 26 20:12 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yeah, but I won't RE-subscribe | Jan 26 20:15 |
| schestowitz | not after Trump ruined it | Jan 26 20:15 |
| cubexyz | how about this one instead: | Jan 26 20:19 |
| cubexyz | https://eponline.com/rss-feeds/news.aspx?admgarea=RSS | Jan 26 20:19 |
| cubexyz | added the distrowatch rss: | Jan 26 20:22 |
| cubexyz | http://www.distrowatch.com/news/news/dw.xml | Jan 26 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/news/news/dw.xml ) | Jan 26 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | I got it already | Jan 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | but now the weekly news one | Jan 26 20:40 |
| schestowitz | it's always early Monday/late Sunday | Jan 26 20:40 |
| cubexyz | going to try canto | Jan 26 20:42 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/c0187630b3f8013428f5005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-20 ) | Jan 26 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remember Or Rumor - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-01-20 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jan 26 20:46 | |
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| cubexyz | tch, this canto version is old | Jan 26 20:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 26 20:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824797401206706178 | Jan 26 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 26/1/2017: KDE Slimbook Release, LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Jan 26 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HhfxcMc57R (techrights.org) | Jan 26 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 20:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/1/2017: KDE Slimbook Release, LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Techrights | Jan 26 20:54 | |
| cubexyz | this python stuff.... grrrr | Jan 26 20:57 |
| cubexyz | there's multiple python-dev packages | Jan 26 20:57 |
| cubexyz | ls | Jan 26 20:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824797550469320708 | Jan 26 20:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798723372785664 | Jan 26 20:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/gOa3b9yOQv | Jan 26 20:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798724668813312 | Jan 26 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Leadership Summit and 4Ccon | Jan 26 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Leadership Summit and 4Ccon | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:59 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/KhTXhVLUEL (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 20:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798730742177792 | Jan 26 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/ys0n7wEnTD | Jan 26 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More News About KDE Slimbook https://t.co/oiu6WaAFAd | Jan 26 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More News About KDE Slimbook | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798733871116288 | Jan 26 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software and Games https://t.co/Ivqv9gZjcm | Jan 26 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software and Games | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798735255232514 | Jan 26 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/QkPob0pZtL | Jan 26 21:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 26 21:01 | |
| MinceR | 27 025726 < cubexyz> there's multiple python-dev packages | Jan 26 21:02 |
| MinceR | one for python2 and one for python3? | Jan 26 21:02 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jan 26 21:02 |
| MinceR | that's to be expected | Jan 26 21:03 |
| cubexyz | is ubuntu 14.04 really old? | Jan 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | they're not entirely compatible | Jan 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jan 26 21:03 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jan 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | python2 and python3 both survive and are in active use | Jan 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | they both have their advantages vs the other | Jan 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-tried-to-force-national-park-service-to-verify-his-false-numbers-about-crowd-size-report/ | Jan 26 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Trump tried to force National Park Service to verify his false numbers about crowd size: report | Jan 26 21:04 | |
| MinceR | lold | Jan 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dongoehubaire/status/824788145086529537 | Jan 26 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dongoehubaire: The guy who pretends he invented email is at it yet again, and I'm beginning to grudgingly respect his dedication. https://t.co/uDD1Pv22Qn | Jan 26 21:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Lawyer for “inventor of e-mail” sends threat letter over social media posts | Ars Technica | Jan 26 21:06 | |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jan 26 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824799399322718211 | Jan 26 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 26 21:08 | |
| cubexyz | screw canto :-/ | Jan 26 21:10 |
| cubexyz | it's tons and tons of shit | Jan 26 21:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'll use newsbeuter instead | Jan 26 21:17 |
| cubexyz | much better | Jan 26 21:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 26 21:22 |
| MinceR | have you found a feedreader that actually scales to having lots of feed items without slowing to a crawl? | Jan 26 21:23 |
| cubexyz | I hope so... newsbeuter is ncurses so it should be faster | Jan 26 21:23 |
| MinceR | won't help much if their database is ill-designed | Jan 26 21:23 |
| cubexyz | you know I'm always looking for the lightest memory use possible | Jan 26 21:25 |
| cubexyz | akregator was pulling in festival which I thought was stupid | Jan 26 21:26 |
| cubexyz | and kttsd | Jan 26 21:26 |
| cubexyz | or maybe it was konqueror pulling it in | Jan 26 21:27 |
| cubexyz | nope there it is again... | Jan 26 21:28 |
| cubexyz | the NASA feed didn't work in newsbeuter | Jan 26 21:35 |
| cubexyz | evidently ubuntu 14.04 is trusty tahr | Jan 26 21:41 |
| cubexyz | so 2014 era | Jan 26 21:41 |
| cubexyz | yay, I'm only 3 years out of date this time | Jan 26 21:42 |
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| cubexyz | all systems are go | Jan 26 22:02 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Unsurprising activity from a man who has, on occasion, accused chestnuts of being lazy." | Jan 27 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lawyer for “inventor of e-mail” sends threat letter over social media posts : law [ http://ur1.ca/qe5ke ] | Jan 27 03:38 | |
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| r_schestowitz | [02:25] <cubexyz> akregator was pulling in festival which I thought was stupid | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:26] <cubexyz> and kttsd | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:27] <cubexyz> or maybe it was konqueror pulling it in | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:28] <cubexyz> nope there it is again... | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:35] <cubexyz> the NASA feed didn't work in newsbeuter | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:41] <cubexyz> evidently ubuntu 14.04 is trusty tahr | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:41] <cubexyz> so 2014 era | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:42] <cubexyz> yay, I'm only 3 years out of date this time | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [03:02] <cubexyz> all systems are go | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [03:02] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/newsbeuter.png | Jan 27 04:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [08:38] <r_schestowitz> https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/5qe0qm/lawyer_for_inventor_of_email_sends_threat_letter/ | Jan 27 04:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [08:38] <r_schestowitz> "Unsurprising activity from a man who has, on occasion, accused chestnuts of being lazy." | Jan 27 04:07 |
| r_schestowitz | Xchat was offline | Jan 27 04:07 |
| r_schestowitz | so i had to pull the above in | Jan 27 04:07 |
| r_schestowitz | for the logs at least | Jan 27 04:07 |
| r_schestowitz | although I reckon cubelog1 got it anyway | Jan 27 04:08 |
| r_schestowitz | the backup for the logs, my connection went down and xchat-gnome is rubbish compared to the original | Jan 27 04:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824904080933867522 | Jan 27 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Linux Is Now Available For NVIDIA's Jetson TX1 | Jan 27 04:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.45 LTS Is Another Small Patch, | Jan 27 04:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Owlboy, is now available for Linux and it has completely | Jan 27 06:22 |
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| MinceR | http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/306411/world-ugliest-house-up-for-sale/ | Jan 27 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deathandtaxesmag.com | World’s ugliest house now up for sale [ http://ur1.ca/qe6mp ] | Jan 27 07:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824952722264846336 | Jan 27 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lennart Poettering on systemd’s Tumultuous Ascendancy in | Jan 27 07:34 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I have seen many uglier homes (than this) | Jan 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | i haven't, at least from the inside | Jan 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | especially that splatter pattern on the windows :> | Jan 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | obviously, the outside (even if it's a McMansion) has nothing on the works of brutalism | Jan 27 07:37 |
| MinceR | plastic barns with randomly placed windows can't beat bare concrete blocks washed with sewage | Jan 27 07:38 |
| oiaohm | Ok what house picture. | Jan 27 07:51 |
| oiaohm | It has to be fairly bad to beat one I saw sell for 5 million dollars. The house was that bad that due to the fact the floor, roof and walls were unstable you were not allowed to go inside. | Jan 27 07:52 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.curbly.com/trump-is-a-living-mcmansion | Jan 27 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump is a Living McMansion, and Other Design Catastrophes | Curbly | Jan 27 07:55 | |
| oiaohm | Ok that is not that bad. | Jan 27 07:56 |
| oiaohm | Compared to the worse I have seen. | Jan 27 07:57 |
| MinceR | it's pretty tiresome to look at, though | Jan 27 07:57 |
| MinceR | details and yellow everywhere | Jan 27 07:57 |
| MinceR | also, it's hideously tacky | Jan 27 07:59 |
| oiaohm | The top 3 features other than been totally condemned of the worse house I have ever seen that sold for a fortune. 1 the down stairs toilet door lined up with the front door. 2 not a single step in the place was built to code. 3 orginal colors blood red, Yellow and black used random-ally. | Jan 27 08:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes the reason it was falling down even the person who built it looked at it and said I am not living there. | Jan 27 08:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I will give you it takes beating the worst I have ever seen. | Jan 27 08:04 |
| MinceR | :D | Jan 27 08:05 |
| oiaohm | That house proved that position mattered it was a well placed beach front location. | Jan 27 08:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.domain.com.au/news/worst-house-youll-ever-see-hits-the-market-for-1-million-20160503-gokrij/ last years worse house on sale in Australia was not that bad. | Jan 27 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.domain.com.au | ‘Worst house you’ll ever see’ hits the market for $1 million – Domain | Jan 27 08:09 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 08:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically trumps house is not bad enough to need a bulldozer. Complete internal clean out and some sane design work and it fixed. The worst houses here are past all possible repair. | Jan 27 08:12 |
| MinceR | i doubt they'd tear down a highrise with a bulldozer anyway | Jan 27 08:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: depends on what size bulldozer. Mining dozer 3 stories high not much stops those. | Jan 27 08:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 08:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, but it will damage adjacent property | Jan 27 08:15 |
| oiaohm | You know the building really bad when the adjacent properties don't care. | Jan 27 08:15 |
| oiaohm | http://www.realestate.com.au/news/2016s-worst-looking-houses-sold-for-more-than-1-million/ << I like the limit here must of sold for more than 1 million dollars to make the list. | Jan 27 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2016’s worst looking houses sold for more than $1 million - realestate.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/qe6un ] | Jan 27 08:16 | |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komatsu_D575A The dozer I was thinking about is 2 stories. Still used against a building the correct way it will do major structural damage. | Jan 27 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Komatsu D575A - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qe6vo ] | Jan 27 08:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU/RadeonSI Linux 4.10 + Mesa 17.1-dev vs. NVIDIA | Jan 27 10:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ASUS ZenPad 3S 10, First Take: A premium 9.7-inch Android | Jan 27 15:17 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, if you're still around give me a list of intel CPUs that don't have the management engine | Jan 27 19:50 |
| cubexyz | ok, found something interesting... | Jan 27 19:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24661 Really you have to go back a long way to get a chip that does not have a management engine or equal a possible on the motherboard. Everything Pent 4 and newer | Jan 27 19:54 |
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| oiaohm | could have one. | Jan 27 19:55 |
| cubexyz | when I built coreboot for gigabyte GA-BXC there was no ME blob | Jan 27 19:55 |
| cubexyz | socketed atmel AT29C020 bios chip... | Jan 27 19:56 |
| oiaohm | Not all ME are updatable either. Some of the early ME chips search the firmware find the microcode shove into cpu before starting bois but the ME firmware is written into the ME chip rom. | Jan 27 19:57 |
| oiaohm | So some ME chips are not a threat because their functionality is limited and not changeable. | Jan 27 19:57 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the reason intel added the ME chip in the first place was to update microcode of cpu before starting bios to allow them to ship more chips like chips that have defects that microcode can work around. | Jan 27 19:59 |
| cubexyz | there's no good info on what exactly the Intel ME does | Jan 27 19:59 |
| oiaohm | there is no good information on what ME does because its feature creep of the worse kind. | Jan 27 20:00 |
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| oiaohm | Add a microcontroller to start cpu with current microcode you start with. Then you have a microconroller sitting in board doing nothing lets have it keep running doing some power management tasks.... and the features just keep on creeping in. | Jan 27 20:01 |
| oiaohm | Until you end up with the spider that current day ME is. | Jan 27 20:01 |
| cubexyz | ok, so P2, P3's don't need Intel ME | Jan 27 20:01 |
| oiaohm | Also early ME was a independant chip so vendors could add their own replacements. | Jan 27 20:02 |
| cubexyz | what chip? | Jan 27 20:02 |
| cubexyz | the northbridge I suppose | Jan 27 20:03 |
| oiaohm | It would be a power management chip | Jan 27 20:03 |
| cubexyz | can you give an example? | Jan 27 20:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ec-development this was a vendor replacement to a ME. | Jan 27 20:05 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: so by the time of chromebooks EC the google developers make a replacement for everything that a ME had to-do so a intel system could operate. | Jan 27 20:06 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 27 20:07 |
| starstreak | you're still running a pentium3? | Jan 27 20:08 |
| oiaohm | page 20 of the presentation on that page. Do note by 2014 the ME is doing keyboard controller. Lot of what were different independent microcontrollers on old motherboards had been consumed into the ME. | Jan 27 20:08 |
| cubexyz | actually power management used to be (maybe it still is) part of the southbridge | Jan 27 20:09 |
| cubexyz | I run about a dozen different computers | Jan 27 20:09 |
| oiaohm | there is a i2c control for the southbridge for power management something has to send the power management instructions. | Jan 27 20:09 |
| starstreak | thanks for killing the planet | Jan 27 20:09 |
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| cubexyz | what are you talking about? | Jan 27 20:10 |
| starstreak | the amount of power you are wasting to power low end hardware is disgusting | Jan 27 20:10 |
| cubexyz | it's not significant | Jan 27 20:11 |
| starstreak | i could probably emulate 100 pentium 3s with a quarter of the power | Jan 27 20:11 |
| cubexyz | most of them aren't even turned on at the moment | Jan 27 20:11 |
| cubexyz | plus some are headless | Jan 27 20:11 |
| starstreak | quarter power of one p3 that is | Jan 27 20:11 |
| starstreak | oh ok | Jan 27 20:11 |
| starstreak | even a raspi would do circles around most old computers and uses little to no power | Jan 27 20:12 |
| starstreak | it grinds my gears when people think they're being cheap but waste cash on electricity powering old power wasting machines | Jan 27 20:12 |
| cubexyz | you haven't thought this out at all | Jan 27 20:13 |
| cubexyz | chip fab generates pollution | Jan 27 20:13 |
| starstreak | right | Jan 27 20:13 |
| cubexyz | also I don't really trust new computers with Intel ME and who knows what | Jan 27 20:13 |
| starstreak | so slowing down progression (which leads to smaller chips which use less pollution to make) will create bigger problems than you seek to fix | Jan 27 20:14 |
| starstreak | what you wouldnt trust is AMD using Intel ME | Jan 27 20:14 |
| starstreak | AMD produces shit | Jan 27 20:14 |
| cubexyz | so you're fine with disposable unfixable computers? | Jan 27 20:14 |
| starstreak | Intel's process is so mature they don't need to speed bin anymore | Jan 27 20:14 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 27 20:14 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: you are overlooking the cost of chip production. Sorry to say not true on the idea less pollution is kinda wrong. Fabs that produced the pent 3 are still in usage. | Jan 27 20:15 |
| starstreak | eventually computer chips will be so small and cheap they'll power paper computers, wallpaper displays, etc | Jan 27 20:15 |
| starstreak | so yeah, keep slowing down technology by hoarding old tech | Jan 27 20:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: turns out it cheaper to produce a new pent 3 than a new rasbery pi. Yes a pent 3 using the same old fab. | Jan 27 20:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: that is in a envornmental cost of production. | Jan 27 20:15 |
| cubexyz | I have zero effect on technology :) | Jan 27 20:15 |
| cubexyz | I am slowing down nothing | Jan 27 20:16 |
| starstreak | the pentium 3 likely uses 100 times more power | Jan 27 20:16 |
| starstreak | maybe that doesnt matter if you're running on wind or solar | Jan 27 20:16 |
| starstreak | nobody is going to stop making new chips and go back to pentium 3s | Jan 27 20:16 |
| cubexyz | exactly my point | Jan 27 20:17 |
| starstreak | theres no sense in that | Jan 27 20:17 |
| cubexyz | I have no effect on things | Jan 27 20:17 |
| starstreak | good | Jan 27 20:17 |
| starstreak | you're part of a dying breed of obsolete people against change | Jan 27 20:17 |
| cubexyz | you know nothing about me | Jan 27 20:17 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: new pentium 3 class chips are made today for usages that require high radiation tollerence. | Jan 27 20:17 |
| starstreak | im not new i've been here before | Jan 27 20:18 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: basically pentium 3 class chips are still in current day production. | Jan 27 20:18 |
| starstreak | when i asked if you were still running a pentium3, its cuz i remember back in 2009 you did | Jan 27 20:18 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: special use cases | Jan 27 20:18 |
| starstreak | a pentium 3 would die on 1080p | Jan 27 20:19 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 180 nm construction is still required for making cpus for radiation tollerence. | Jan 27 20:19 |
| cubexyz | no one cares what you think "starstreak" | Jan 27 20:19 |
| cubexyz | go pick an argument with someone else | Jan 27 20:19 |
| starstreak | lol | Jan 27 20:20 |
| starstreak | they might not care but they'll agree with me cuz progress is awesome | Jan 27 20:20 |
| cubexyz | go play on windows 10 like a good little punk | Jan 27 20:21 |
| cubexyz | that's all you're good for | Jan 27 20:21 |
| starstreak | if everyone stuck to p3's like you we wouldn't have all this amazing battery technology powering teslas | Jan 27 20:21 |
| cubexyz | I seem to remember making batteries also generates pollution | Jan 27 20:22 |
| starstreak | yeah so where do you store your wind and solar excess so you don't have outages? | Jan 27 20:22 |
| oiaohm | Really if you really cared about envornment you would be more focused on have some of the old cpu types back and made at a decent nm. http://j-core.org/ this is a reimplementation of the old superh | Jan 27 20:23 |
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| oiaohm | SuperH cpu were known for being one of the highest density of cpu instructions to ram of a 32 bit or 64 bit processor. | Jan 27 20:24 |
| starstreak | does it run x86 or arm code? | Jan 27 20:24 |
| oiaohm | SuperH is superh so of course is not x86 or arm | Jan 27 20:25 |
| oiaohm | Neither of x86 or arm have been design to be absolutely size effective. | Jan 27 20:25 |
| cubexyz | unrepairable computers generates tons of ewaste | Jan 27 20:25 |
| cubexyz | this is a stupid convo | Jan 27 20:26 |
| starstreak | so then you trade one waste for another waste | Jan 27 20:26 |
| cubexyz | for less waste, which is the lesser evil | Jan 27 20:26 |
| starstreak | but at the same time you end up waiting forever for shit and can't do anything new | Jan 27 20:26 |
| starstreak | its the same waste | Jan 27 20:26 |
| cubexyz | you haven't been paying attention | Jan 27 20:27 |
| starstreak | you're either generating ewaste or you're wasting electricity, and if you've been running that p3 since the 90s i can only imagine your disgusting carbon footprint over that time | Jan 27 20:27 |
| starstreak | i would say you are causing more damage than throwing it out | Jan 27 20:27 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: what is the carbon foot print to recycle a p3. | Jan 27 20:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, well have fun with your bic light computer | Jan 27 20:27 |
| starstreak | by wasting more electricty than the energy required to get rid of it | Jan 27 20:27 |
| starstreak | the computer means nothing to me | Jan 27 20:28 |
| starstreak | the data matters | Jan 27 20:28 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: to recycle a pent 3 properly consumes as much power as that is required to run the chip for 15 years. | Jan 27 20:28 |
| oiaohm | the price tag on recycling ewaste is down right scary. | Jan 27 20:29 |
| starstreak | the chip isnt that efficient | Jan 27 20:29 |
| starstreak | you're not looking at how much watts he is burning to compute cycles over that 15 year period | Jan 27 20:29 |
| cubexyz | the landfills need more iphones you see... | Jan 27 20:29 |
| starstreak | cycles computed over 15 years times the amount of electricity that used, vs cycles computed with cpu upgrades every 5 years | Jan 27 20:29 |
| starstreak | you'll have more cycles computed with cpu upgrades, and each upgrade will lower the watts required | Jan 27 20:30 |
| oiaohm | I mean he runs the pent 3 cpu at a 100 percent load for 15 years. The power cost to recycle it would take that long. | Jan 27 20:30 |
| starstreak | look at it this way | Jan 27 20:30 |
| cubexyz | it's no where near that | Jan 27 20:30 |
| cubexyz | no where near 100% | Jan 27 20:30 |
| starstreak | if he ran SETI@home on his p3 for the last 15 years, and got 20000 units complete | Jan 27 20:30 |
| starstreak | if he upgraded, a current i7 would probably do that in a week | Jan 27 20:30 |
| starstreak | think about all the electricity BURNED to get the SAME result as a newer chip | Jan 27 20:31 |
| cubexyz | it's insignificant | Jan 27 20:31 |
| oiaohm | i7 due to lower nm has a shorter lifespan of operation starstreak | Jan 27 20:31 |
| starstreak | its not insigificant | Jan 27 20:31 |
| oiaohm | before the chip fails. | Jan 27 20:31 |
| oiaohm | If running i7 and pent 3 to max live and proper recycling both the pent 3 is cheaper. | Jan 27 20:31 |
| starstreak | yeah and in 5 years when that happens you get a new chip thats 4x faster than that one | Jan 27 20:31 |
| starstreak | and uses even less power | Jan 27 20:32 |
| starstreak | so over time less and less power is required for more and more output | Jan 27 20:32 |
| oiaohm | while running but you are negletiting recycling. | Jan 27 20:32 |
| oiaohm | New silicon contains more parts harder to recycle. | Jan 27 20:32 |
| cubexyz | it's using about 3% of the cpu in IRC | Jan 27 20:32 |
| starstreak | its like cubexyz is dumping truckloads of gas into an SUV to do the same thing as a car which does it in one tank | Jan 27 20:32 |
| cubexyz | I don't even drive, I use public trans | Jan 27 20:33 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the overall picture is harder. | Jan 27 20:33 |
| starstreak | you can get something the power of his p3 in a chip so small you can't even see it | Jan 27 20:33 |
| oiaohm | I remember the case where a person proved that a SUV was less pollution than a electric car. | Jan 27 20:33 |
| oiaohm | So just because something is less pollution in usage you do have to look at the production and disposal costs as well. | Jan 27 20:34 |
| starstreak | really depends where you live for a lot of it | Jan 27 20:34 |
| starstreak | i know cubexyz is in ontario | Jan 27 20:34 |
| starstreak | hes rural too so that p3 is likely a killer on his hydro bill thanks to wynne | Jan 27 20:35 |
| starstreak | no wonder its off ;) | Jan 27 20:35 |
| oiaohm | the electric car one presumed it was running purely on clean power sources for electricity. The production of batteries and that stuff was a nightmare. | Jan 27 20:35 |
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| oiaohm | So if a p3 is getting is electricty from wind or solar exactly what would be the envornmental problem starstreak | Jan 27 20:36 |
| starstreak | the battery at that point | Jan 27 20:36 |
| cubexyz | the batteries for the UPS, or whatever | Jan 27 20:37 |
| starstreak | wind and solar use batteries to provide sustained power during night time and such | Jan 27 20:37 |
| starstreak | you dont want a two second cloud to take down your PC | Jan 27 20:37 |
| starstreak | IDE drives dont like that | Jan 27 20:37 |
| cubexyz | I turn off most of the computers most of the time anyways | Jan 27 20:38 |
| starstreak | to be environmentally friendly in canada and the USA i usually suggest people use ARM unless they need something to play games on | Jan 27 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Next other than a pent 3 low performance. You are aware that most pent 3 systems have smaller PSU than current day x86 systems. | Jan 27 20:39 |
| starstreak | not true | Jan 27 20:39 |
| oiaohm | what wattage do you think is a pent 3 power system. | Jan 27 20:39 |
| cubexyz | the chromebook I use is very low power | Jan 27 20:39 |
| starstreak | i've been able to keep the same PSU across upgrades because components keep using less and less power | Jan 27 20:39 |
| starstreak | no longer am I required to power my video card seperatly from the motherboard for example | Jan 27 20:40 |
| starstreak | SSDs less power, NVMe SSDs use motherboard power too | Jan 27 20:40 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jan 27 20:40 |
| starstreak | NVMe's are awesome | Jan 27 20:40 |
| starstreak | you can get desktop motherboards with them | Jan 27 20:40 |
| starstreak | 2000MB/s read/write per drive for cheaper models | Jan 27 20:41 |
| oiaohm | I asked a system question what wattage do you think a pent 3 power supply is. | Jan 27 20:41 |
| starstreak | about 500 watts | Jan 27 20:41 |
| starstreak | and less than 80 percent efficient | Jan 27 20:41 |
| oiaohm | 500 watts is a dual chip pent 3 half of it is adverage pent3 250watts | Jan 27 20:41 |
| starstreak | 80 percent gets you a certification stamp | Jan 27 20:41 |
| oiaohm | Power usage of x86 went up at pent 4 | Jan 27 20:42 |
| starstreak | and it went down ever since core2duo | Jan 27 20:42 |
| oiaohm | and we have not got back down there yet. | Jan 27 20:42 |
| starstreak | my dual core, core2duo uses 21.5 watts | Jan 27 20:42 |
| starstreak | i measured it | Jan 27 20:42 |
| oiaohm | Please note 250watts was the complete pent 3 system. | Jan 27 20:43 |
| starstreak | a complete system, including display, core2duo, 21.5 watts | Jan 27 20:43 |
| cubexyz | the big pig was the CRT anyways, not the computer | Jan 27 20:43 |
| starstreak | running windows it drew 31 watts | Jan 27 20:43 |
| starstreak | probably cuz the graphics driver was actually doing something | Jan 27 20:44 |
| oiaohm | 250watts is the psu rating that the old pent 3 could pull. Yes the CRT was the nightmare that caped how much power those old comptuers could draw. | Jan 27 20:44 |
| cubexyz | a 17 inch CRT used about 75 watts | Jan 27 20:44 |
| starstreak | yeah but thats 250 watts for a p3, im telling you i had a mobile core2duo doing 21.5 watts on linux, 4gb ram, nvidia gpu | Jan 27 20:44 |
| starstreak | core2duo probably does 4x the work | Jan 27 20:45 |
| cubexyz | it's no where near 250 watts | Jan 27 20:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 250 watts as max rating of the PSU unit. | Jan 27 20:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: no how much it using. | Jan 27 20:45 |
| starstreak | what does it actually use | Jan 27 20:45 |
| starstreak | each new intel cpu has added hours of battery life to laptops | Jan 27 20:45 |
| starstreak | so think about that kind of efficiency over time | Jan 27 20:46 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 16 watts to 40 watts for a pent III cpu depending on the version at full load. | Jan 27 20:46 |
| cubexyz | less than 100 watts for the entire computer | Jan 27 20:46 |
| starstreak | would you carry around a pentium 3 notebook with you everywhere and hope the battery doesnt fail while you're working on something mobile for half an hour? | Jan 27 20:46 |
| cubexyz | I think it was about 94.5 watts | Jan 27 20:46 |
| cubexyz | headless | Jan 27 20:47 |
| cubexyz | maybe a bit less | Jan 27 20:47 |
| starstreak | yeah so already 5x more power than a core2duo that can do 4x more work (at least) | Jan 27 20:47 |
| starstreak | with a display to boot! | Jan 27 20:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: core2due is between 20 to 80 watts in cpu core. | Jan 27 20:48 |
| starstreak | i have a dell xps m1330, it has an intel core2duo 2.1ghz cpu and an nvidia gpu and a built in display | Jan 27 20:48 |
| starstreak | i measured the power using a device and it told me it was using 21.5watts | Jan 27 20:49 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so when looking at total power usage ignoring performance we have gone backwards. Note those figures are max load. | Jan 27 20:49 |
| starstreak | glxgears running, KDE, nvidia drivers | Jan 27 20:49 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 27 20:49 |
| oiaohm | basically pent 3 are not absolute pigs. If it was a pent 2 that would be another matter. | Jan 27 20:50 |
| starstreak | what can you even do on a pentium 3 | Jan 27 20:50 |
| starstreak | KDE itself uses a GB of ram and theres nothing wrong with that when most computers sell with 8 | Jan 27 20:50 |
| starstreak | firefox uses a GB of ram | Jan 27 20:50 |
| cubexyz | oh let's see... IRC... like I'm doing now | Jan 27 20:51 |
| oiaohm | Play quake using a nvidia tnt2 card . | Jan 27 20:51 |
| starstreak | 1080p videos, not working | Jan 27 20:51 |
| cubexyz | starstreak, fuck off | Jan 27 20:51 |
| starstreak | quake at 1080p? no dice | Jan 27 20:51 |
| cubexyz | can you process that? | Jan 27 20:51 |
| starstreak | nothing at 1080p | Jan 27 20:51 |
| cubexyz | no one cares about your opinions | Jan 27 20:51 |
| starstreak | they dont even sell displays that arent 1080p | Jan 27 20:51 |
| oiaohm | quake at 1080 the first version looks like crap. | Jan 27 20:51 |
| starstreak | im even on welfare and my shit doesnt suck like yours | Jan 27 20:51 |
| oiaohm | quake is one of those games where you lower the resolution to make it look good than have 1080p monitor upscale. | Jan 27 20:52 |
| starstreak | you just gotta be good at finding deals and you wont be stuck on a p3 forever | Jan 27 20:52 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: i wouldnt play quake 1 unless they redid it in 1080p or higher | Jan 27 20:52 |
| cubexyz | you changed your nick so you could argue you stupid fucker | Jan 27 20:53 |
| starstreak | resolution is one thing, you actually have to make the textures high res too | Jan 27 20:53 |
| starstreak | ad hominem? | Jan 27 20:53 |
| starstreak | i've been pretty civil cubexyz, i've insulted inanimate objects if anything | Jan 27 20:54 |
| starstreak | i haven't dealt into the realm of logical fallacies with the ad homimens, this girl doesnt play that way | Jan 27 20:55 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: this stupid the numbers say for us to get back to pent 3 power levels 7nm chips in x86. So you are about 2 years too soon to complain. | Jan 27 20:55 |
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| starstreak | pentium 3s are just single processors | Jan 27 20:56 |
| starstreak | 7nm chips will likely have 8 or more | Jan 27 20:56 |
| starstreak | someone who knew what they were doing would grab like a cheap ass AMD A8 system for a few hundred and hook thin clients up to virtual machines it hosts | Jan 27 20:57 |
| starstreak | I guess those pentium3's could make useful terminals to connect to a real computer | Jan 27 20:59 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: now exactly what is wrong with the AMD A8 system. Remember larger nm same complexity equals more power usage. Pent 3 is cheeper than current cpu due to lower complexity. | Jan 27 20:59 |
| starstreak | I would have the p3 RDP into a terminal server | Jan 27 20:59 |
| starstreak | you have it backwards | Jan 27 21:00 |
| oiaohm | AMD A8 there s a intel cpu at the same completity. but the intel cpu is lower nm. | Jan 27 21:00 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 27 21:00 |
| starstreak | but the intel version probably twice as much for cost | Jan 27 21:00 |
| starstreak | retail | Jan 27 21:01 |
| oiaohm | Basically more transistors more power usage. So lower transistor count lower power usage. nm sets about how much each transistor costs. | Jan 27 21:01 |
| starstreak | yeah i get it | Jan 27 21:01 |
| oiaohm | The current x86 cores have got so many times more complex than a pent 3 so a pent 3 producted at the same level of nm as current intel chips would be highly power effective. | Jan 27 21:02 |
| starstreak | but now im thinking locally just have the old computers run stuff off more powerful host machines | Jan 27 21:02 |
| starstreak | yeah it would but it wouldnt be able to render 1080p video | Jan 27 21:03 |
| starstreak | and you wouldnt be able to run 30 virtual machines on it | Jan 27 21:03 |
| oiaohm | 30 virtual machines is a question how many need that and do they need to be paying the complexity cost all the time. | Jan 27 21:04 |
| starstreak | i think it would be fun to see if i could p2v (physical 2 virtual conversion) all of cube's computers and then run them, and make clones, and more clones, and then run the latest doom | Jan 27 21:04 |
| starstreak | then measure the power and compare | Jan 27 21:04 |
| starstreak | i would probably still use less power | Jan 27 21:05 |
| oiaohm | With AMD and Intel starting to support GPU sharing with virtual machines under linux things are getting interesting. | Jan 27 21:05 |
| starstreak | you can do a lot more per watt | Jan 27 21:05 |
| oiaohm | how much you can do per watt is partly linked to how many instructions you can fit in ram as well. | Jan 27 21:06 |
| starstreak | yeah it will | Jan 27 21:06 |
| starstreak | virtual machines are amazing technology | Jan 27 21:06 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: well thanks for being rational at least | Jan 27 21:07 |
| starstreak | MarkBilk would have been chirping in about using pentium3's cuz of reptilian backdoors | Jan 27 21:07 |
| oiaohm | The problem is the ME backdoors are real. Intel getting the idea of build a network kvm into the ME chip and adding the ablity for ME to run JEFF files(being a form of java that is signed) does not make you feel safe. | Jan 27 21:10 |
| cubexyz | "starstreak" just comes in here to be a pest, there's no logic to it | Jan 27 21:10 |
| cubexyz | put him on ignore | Jan 27 21:11 |
| cubexyz | or better yet, kick him the fuck out | Jan 27 21:11 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: gets worse if you dig into ME you have the idea that intel had the ideal of selling the rights for companies to sell JEFF files that could be placed in firmware to allow the computer to be remotely deleted from the ME chip. | Jan 27 21:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so fear of what the ME chip could do is not illogical. | Jan 27 21:12 |
| starstreak | which will never happen | Jan 27 21:15 |
| starstreak | in most countries unauthorized network access is against the law | Jan 27 21:15 |
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| oiaohm | https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/04/18/intel-amt-remote-secure-erase << here is the feature | Jan 27 21:15 |
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| starstreak | yeah to let you erase your own computer in the event its stolen | Jan 27 21:15 |
| starstreak | great technology | Jan 27 21:16 |
| starstreak | if someone steals my computer, damn right im gonna brick it | Jan 27 21:16 |
| oiaohm | There have been a few cases where a person has bought computer second hand then had it bricked. | Jan 27 21:16 |
| starstreak | those are cases where the purchaser was a moron | Jan 27 21:16 |
| starstreak | or they bought it stolen and didnt know :P | Jan 27 21:17 |
| starstreak | happens with iphones all the time | Jan 27 21:17 |
| starstreak | i love it, and androids you can crack and recycle if you steal them | Jan 27 21:17 |
| oiaohm | Also a few cases when companies have donated machines then by mistake forgot to remove secure erase then bricked then as well. | Jan 27 21:17 |
| starstreak | i dont want some asshole who stole my phone to have the pleasure of using it | Jan 27 21:18 |
| starstreak | unintended consequences | Jan 27 21:18 |
| starstreak | human failure | Jan 27 21:18 |
| starstreak | if you allow unbricking, a theif will figure that out | Jan 27 21:18 |
| oiaohm | There are third parties that provide secure erease in firmware. | Jan 27 21:18 |
| starstreak | i'd rather it just work | Jan 27 21:18 |
| oiaohm | so it not exactly easy to be sure intel systems are clean. | Jan 27 21:18 |
| starstreak | all my macbooks and iOS shit is locked down with my icloud | Jan 27 21:19 |
| oiaohm | neither are amd systems eitehr. | Jan 27 21:19 |
| starstreak | if someone took my iphone, it would remain locked unable to power down while i run to a web browser and GPS track it | Jan 27 21:19 |
| starstreak | same with my laptop except ATX standards kinda force you to be able to power it off | Jan 27 21:20 |
| cubexyz | GE nuclear power plants still use PDP-11s | Jan 27 21:21 |
| starstreak | it creates a pretty big market for iphone parts since criminals can't use any of the memory | Jan 27 21:21 |
| starstreak | which is soldiered on | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | at least microsoft crap won't run on PDP-11s | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | and neither will apple crap | Jan 27 21:22 |
| MinceR | so they can't spew fallout on us ;) | Jan 27 21:22 |
| starstreak | oh the digital dark age people | Jan 27 21:22 |
| cubexyz | they have to know those systems 100% | Jan 27 21:23 |
| cubexyz | no messing around | Jan 27 21:23 |
| starstreak | no its because they're so old radiation isn't a problem | Jan 27 21:23 |
| starstreak | so much lead | Jan 27 21:23 |
| MinceR | it's a pity this "i can know these systems 100%" is a thing of the past | Jan 27 21:23 |
| starstreak | its nothing to do with your free software religion | Jan 27 21:23 |
| starstreak | im sure the employees would love a computer that could run facebook in another window | Jan 27 21:24 |
| MinceR | what are you talking about? | Jan 27 21:25 |
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| starstreak | you wont find PDP11s running in Candu earthquake proof reactors | Jan 27 21:27 |
| starstreak | http://www.mapps.l-3com.com/candu-plant-control-systems.html | Jan 27 21:27 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR is right, you can't know the systems 100% because of the Intel ME being under strict NDA | Jan 27 21:29 |
| starstreak | intel still can't break the law | Jan 27 21:29 |
| cubexyz | the intel people will not talk about it, except in a general sense | Jan 27 21:30 |
| starstreak | they would need your permission to brick your CPU, and every canadian court judge would be against Intel doing it on their own | Jan 27 21:30 |
| starstreak | just like microsoft COULD spy on you, but it would be ILLEGAL | Jan 27 21:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 21:31 |
| MinceR | so naive | Jan 27 21:31 |
| starstreak | the press would love that | Jan 27 21:31 |
| starstreak | twitter would eat it up if it ever happened | Jan 27 21:31 |
| MinceR | for one thing, if they aren't caught, the courts and the press won't even hear of it | Jan 27 21:31 |
| starstreak | what makes you think they would? | Jan 27 21:31 |
| MinceR | for another thing, lawyers are among their primary expenses | Jan 27 21:31 |
| MinceR | they have you "sign" tons of legalese when you start using their crap, covering their ass | Jan 27 21:32 |
| starstreak | in Canada the lawyers cant do that shit | Jan 27 21:32 |
| starstreak | they still havent been able to sue any pirates | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | and they're in cahoots with various us government institutions operating on secret laws, secret interpretations and secret courts | Jan 27 21:32 |
| starstreak | if you believe in conspiracy theories like that then anyone is capable of anything | Jan 27 21:32 |
| MinceR | also, that same government is probably heavily backdoored by them already | Jan 27 21:33 |
| starstreak | so a global conspiracy? | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | and even if they were very hesitant to use these backdoors against you, that wouldn't prevent them from existing | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | you're working with an interesting definition of "global" there | Jan 27 21:33 |
| starstreak | well not every government is the same | Jan 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | indeed, the us government may very well have coerced or encouraged them to fill their crap with backdoors | Jan 27 21:34 |
| starstreak | so they've infiltrated all governments to backdoor computers? | Jan 27 21:34 |
| MinceR | yeah, not every government has the same power either | Jan 27 21:34 |
| starstreak | why backdoor computers when everyone posts their daily lives on social media and people throw away their computers after 2 years? | Jan 27 21:34 |
| starstreak | sounds rather silly and pointless | Jan 27 21:35 |
| MinceR | also, for some of these backdoors, they might even have some means of plausible deniability -- they could say it's just an unfortunate programming mistake that makes, say, Intel AMT available as a backdoor to an unauthorized intruder when it's supposed to be turned off | Jan 27 21:35 |
| starstreak | what are you doing thats so secret? | Jan 27 21:35 |
| starstreak | i think the NSA probably should be watching you | Jan 27 21:35 |
| MinceR | well, ask the NSA why they spend so much of the taxpayers' money on weakening and breaking systems the taxpayers rely on for their security and privacy | Jan 27 21:35 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter what you think, they're trying to watch everyone | Jan 27 21:36 |
| MinceR | and then struggling to figure out what to do with all the data they collect without aim | Jan 27 21:36 |
| starstreak | if you spend 99% of your computer time on irc, they dont need a backdoor, they got a roydoor | Jan 27 21:36 |
| starstreak | there are more efficient ways to spy on people | Jan 27 21:37 |
| MinceR | my irc client is not made by your favorite programmers, so it doesn't need 99% cpu time | Jan 27 21:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: what law is the question. Please note intel operations cross into many countries not all is it a crime to remote nuke contents of a computer they don't own. | Jan 27 21:37 |
| starstreak | in most countries "unauthorized computer access" is a crime | Jan 27 21:37 |
| MinceR | it would be nice if rule of law applied to rich people and megacorporations too, no doubt | Jan 27 21:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: but that is not every country intel operates in. | Jan 27 21:37 |
| starstreak | im in Canada, so they cant do it to me | Jan 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, and in most countries state institutions decide what crimes to prosecute | Jan 27 21:38 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: both countries it has to be illegal to push criminal charge. | Jan 27 21:38 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: source and desinsation. | Jan 27 21:38 |
| starstreak | intel has operations in canada | Jan 27 21:38 |
| starstreak | they would be answering for it | Jan 27 21:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's the way it works, doesn't it? | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MarkBilk | starstreak: "<starstreak> MarkBilk would have been chirping in about using pentium3's cuz of reptilian backdoors" | Jan 27 21:39 |
| starstreak | it does | Jan 27 21:39 |
| oiaohm | intel operations canada do not have to answer for intel operations done in another one of their country branches. | Jan 27 21:39 |
| starstreak | cuz i've gone to the human rights comission of ontario to go after my american head office | Jan 27 21:39 |
| starstreak | they had no problem doing so | Jan 27 21:39 |
| cubexyz | ah, starstreak is busy making more friends tonight :) | Jan 27 21:39 |
| cubexyz | maybe he can piss everyone off | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | seems more like he's busy daydreaming about how rule of law works everywhere | Jan 27 21:39 |
| MinceR | and how there's no corruption anywhere | Jan 27 21:40 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: and if it not the american head office. Please remember intel is a decentalised designed multi national. | Jan 27 21:40 |
| starstreak | what am I saying that would cause anger? | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | oh, that brings something to mind that i've read about recently | Jan 27 21:40 |
| starstreak | seems like a logical and rational debate | Jan 27 21:40 |
| MinceR | http://cphpost.dk/news/business/denmark-gets-worlds-first-digital-ambassador.html | Jan 27 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Denmark to appoint world’s first digital ambassador – The Post | Jan 27 21:40 | |
| MinceR | if this isn't institutionalized corruption then i wonder what is | Jan 27 21:40 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so legally intel can can attack just from the right office and there would be absolutely nothing you could do about it. | Jan 27 21:40 |
| starstreak | if you have to switch from debate mode into a barrage of personal attacks and insults, that might be mental illness | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MarkBilk | Doesn't worry me at all. Any reptilians that come out of my computer get a flamethrower up the keister! | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | what about the feds who come knocking to inquire about the flamethrower? | Jan 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | "it's to kill weeds in my lawn, as far as you know" | Jan 27 21:41 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: intel would get sued in canada, and since they do business in canada, their canadian subsidiary would be responsible for all of intel's actions in canada | Jan 27 21:41 |
| starstreak | the privacy comissioner has to investigate every case submitted | Jan 27 21:42 |
| starstreak | but this is Canada and yeah i get it, you people need to move here to enjoy freedom again | Jan 27 21:43 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the canadian subsidiary is a independent entity. This was found in the pentuim FOOF bug when some canada wanted compesnation for it. | Jan 27 21:43 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so case history says your idea is bogus. | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | if only laws regarding anticompetitive practices were enforced as conscientously as starstreak imagines | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | we would have no uefi, no microsoft tax | Jan 27 21:44 |
| starstreak | well the car in my driveway says american companies ARE liable for their actions in canada | Jan 27 21:44 |
| starstreak | :P | Jan 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | probably no microsoft either | Jan 27 21:44 |
| cubexyz | don't forget price fixing.... | Jan 27 21:44 |
| cubexyz | on memory chips, probably other ones as well | Jan 27 21:44 |
| starstreak | i reported an american based company for age discrimination on wages saying they paid older people more, and i won what bought me my car | Jan 27 21:45 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jan 27 21:45 |
| starstreak | so dont tell me what i've witnessed myself as canadian government agencies going after american companies successfully | Jan 27 21:45 |
| MinceR | the cost to them was probably insignificant next to their profits | Jan 27 21:45 |
| starstreak | learn from me | Jan 27 21:46 |
| starstreak | you dont get rights unless you fight for them | Jan 27 21:46 |
| MinceR | if i had a dollar from everyone who told me to ignore reality and listen to their ideas instead, i'd be a rich person | Jan 27 21:46 |
| starstreak | so no wonder you think theres a global conspiracy out to spy on you when nobody gives a fuck | Jan 27 21:46 |
| MinceR | no, you don't get rights unless you're rich and powerful | Jan 27 21:46 |
| starstreak | conspiracy theories again | Jan 27 21:47 |
| MinceR | can you explain what the conspiracy is? | Jan 27 21:47 |
| starstreak | CRTC in Canada just said all ISPS have to offer unlimited | Jan 27 21:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: key word is American Intel is not just American https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/50863/000119312512075534/d302695dex211.htm State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation list there is important. | Jan 27 21:47 |
| MinceR | or are you just throwing a word around without even knowing what it means? | Jan 27 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sec.gov | INTEL CORPORATION SUBSIDIARIES [ http://ur1.ca/qefd7 ] | Jan 27 21:47 | |
| starstreak | yeah you think all these rich and so called powerful people can't be stopped | Jan 27 21:48 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation lists the legal locations intel could be operating from. | Jan 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | oh, they can be stopped | Jan 27 21:48 |
| starstreak | that they are planning together | Jan 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | i didn't say they were planning together | Jan 27 21:48 |
| starstreak | its just a theory though | Jan 27 21:48 |
| starstreak | in reality, old people are just dumb | Jan 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | in reality, almost all people are dumb | Jan 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | regardless of age | Jan 27 21:48 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: as soon as you get into multi national companies doing cases against them is hard. | Jan 27 21:48 |
| starstreak | its the baby boomers, not the rich | Jan 27 21:49 |
| starstreak | rich people get fucked over by baby boomers too | Jan 27 21:49 |
| MinceR | depends on how rich they are | Jan 27 21:49 |
| starstreak | these people fly around the world to meet in person because they are technophobes who cant launch a simple video voip program | Jan 27 21:49 |
| starstreak | destroying the planet cause pushing a button is too hard | Jan 27 21:50 |
| oiaohm | There are reasons to meet in person. You find Linux conferences doing security key sharing in person. | Jan 27 21:51 |
| starstreak | stop looking at wealth and start looking at age and you'll start to see the real conspiracies | Jan 27 21:51 |
| MinceR | pay no attention to the man behind the curtain | Jan 27 21:51 |
| starstreak | the man behind the curtain | Jan 27 21:51 |
| MinceR | so, what are some of these "real conspiracies"? | Jan 27 21:51 |
| oiaohm | Using a simple voip program that is too simple could end up doing it unencrypted so leaking what you are doing to the world. | Jan 27 21:51 |
| starstreak | keywords man: old, white, baby boomer | Jan 27 21:51 |
| starstreak | old people who conspire together as part of the "old boys club" | Jan 27 21:52 |
| starstreak | you mistake them as rich cuz some are | Jan 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | to do what? | Jan 27 21:52 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: sorry some business men avoid technology for things not because they are technophobes but because they understand security risk. | Jan 27 21:52 |
| starstreak | all the shit you are blaming the rich and powerful on | Jan 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | so very specific | Jan 27 21:52 |
| starstreak | they're rich cuz their old and powerful cuz of their networking with others their age | Jan 27 21:52 |
| starstreak | and their hate for younger people | Jan 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | so you're saying that the people running these corrupt megacorporations are not the people who own them, but random old people? | Jan 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | that's interesting | Jan 27 21:52 |
| starstreak | no | Jan 27 21:53 |
| starstreak | some happen to be running megacorps | Jan 27 21:53 |
| starstreak | some make nothing working as a politician | Jan 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | which happen to be involved in some well documented business that infringes on human rights, rule of law, security, etc. | Jan 27 21:53 |
| starstreak | some just want to keep taxes low so their pension payouts are higher | Jan 27 21:53 |
| MarkBilk | Any idea who the "starstreak" troll is? | Jan 27 21:53 |
| starstreak | troll? | Jan 27 21:53 |
| cubexyz | someone give me ops :) | Jan 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | you do realize that a politician has other sources of wealth than their official salary from the government, right? | Jan 27 21:54 |
| starstreak | what have i done wrong? | Jan 27 21:54 |
| starstreak | have an opinion? | Jan 27 21:54 |
| starstreak | or cuz im a trans woman? | Jan 27 21:54 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: why suspected troll is lot of things are lack of research. Like icloud has been beaten a few times. Apple runs around doing DCMA take downs on the tools. | Jan 27 21:55 |
| MarkBilk | Who knows what you are? | Jan 27 21:55 |
| starstreak | nothing in computers are totally secure | Jan 27 21:55 |
| MinceR | and who cares? | Jan 27 21:55 |
| cubexyz | we don't | Jan 27 21:55 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: but there are levels of security. | Jan 27 21:56 |
| MinceR | we're not crybullies, we're not alt-reich (afaik) so we don't care | Jan 27 21:56 |
| starstreak | "omg apple has had security exploits" | Jan 27 21:56 |
| starstreak | like linux hasnt | Jan 27 21:56 |
| MinceR | apple has built-in backdoors at least in ios, probably also macos by now | Jan 27 21:56 |
| MinceR | hell, customers don't have effective admin rights on apple mobile devices and apple does | Jan 27 21:56 |
| starstreak | and the FBI had to hire McAfee to get into the san bernadino phone | Jan 27 21:57 |
| MinceR | now even microsoft can push arbitrary code to be executed to windows 10 any time and this is well documented | Jan 27 21:57 |
| cubexyz | I care about repairability, programming, data sheets, & source code | Jan 27 21:57 |
| MinceR | no, the FBI was trying to get a precedent, to make things easier and cheaper for them | Jan 27 21:57 |
| MinceR | and apple tried to play the great privacy heroes while trying to save costs | Jan 27 21:57 |
| starstreak | at the end of the day, Apple wasn't a government backdoor :P | Jan 27 21:58 |
| starstreak | if they were, FBI wouldnt have had to go to court | Jan 27 21:58 |
| MinceR | actually they would still go to court if that's the way to ensure that they get the backdoor used for their needs _every_ time | Jan 27 21:58 |
| MinceR | not the same as having to ask apple for a favor every time | Jan 27 21:59 |
| starstreak | you've said they already have a backdoor for their every time needs | Jan 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | (which they can do privately, by the way) | Jan 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | apple does | Jan 27 21:59 |
| starstreak | including every company | Jan 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | i don't know who else does | Jan 27 21:59 |
| starstreak | they all have backdoors | Jan 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | they may well let the NSA use it freely | Jan 27 21:59 |
| starstreak | everything has backdoors, exploits and security bugs | Jan 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | but the FBI is not the NSA | Jan 27 21:59 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: not true. | Jan 27 21:59 |
| starstreak | yes its true | Jan 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | also, there are algorithms (like Dual_EC_DRBG) that were backdoored by the NSA | Jan 27 22:00 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: tell me a back door in sel4 | Jan 27 22:00 |
| starstreak | if you've worked in computer security, you know that all that is required is time and money | Jan 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | the NSA did approach Linus to put a backdoor in Linux, he refused | Jan 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | (as far as we know, anyway) | Jan 27 22:00 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: come on you said everything has backdoors. I have named a OS without one. | Jan 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | then they apparently went to red hat to have them come up with systemd instead | Jan 27 22:00 |
| starstreak | if sel4 doesnt, whatever its connected to would | Jan 27 22:01 |
| starstreak | routers, switches | Jan 27 22:01 |
| MinceR | routers and switches do not have the same level of access, even if they're backdoored | Jan 27 22:01 |
| starstreak | theres so many backdoors on devices carrying your data it would be mentally unhealthy to worry about it all | Jan 27 22:01 |
| MinceR | now a baseband processor in a mobile device that has full DMA access to the main RAM, on the other hand... | Jan 27 22:01 |
| cubexyz | you can reprogram the firmware on some routers | Jan 27 22:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://sel4.systems/ what sel4 is made for is making routers and switches that are not flawed. | Jan 27 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sel4.systems | Home | seL4 | Jan 27 22:02 | |
| MinceR | see, this is why it would be nice to be able to have computers we can know and understand in every detail | Jan 27 22:02 |
| starstreak | and people only buy cisco | Jan 27 22:02 |
| MinceR | dumb people, maybe | Jan 27 22:02 |
| MinceR | cisco's approach to security is a joke | Jan 27 22:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: its possible to make very secure stuff but it costs lots of resources. | Jan 27 22:02 |
| starstreak | people who want to make money | Jan 27 22:02 |
| MinceR | i wonder how using flawed and insecure products generates revenue | Jan 27 22:02 |
| starstreak | computers are throwaway devices | Jan 27 22:03 |
| MinceR | yours are, probably | Jan 27 22:03 |
| MinceR | for most consumers, computers are appliances | Jan 27 22:03 |
| starstreak | the data is what matters | Jan 27 22:03 |
| starstreak | why does the computer matter | Jan 27 22:03 |
| starstreak | its obsolete in 3 months | Jan 27 22:03 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the arguement that everything is flawed is an excuse not to ask for mathematically secure. | Jan 27 22:03 |
| starstreak | right but dont assume you're shit is secure | Jan 27 22:04 |
| MinceR | and once you throw out the computer, you may find out that the next one can't decode your data | Jan 27 22:04 |
| starstreak | anyone who wanted to spy on you, can, and will | Jan 27 22:04 |
| MinceR | obviously you shouldn't assume | Jan 27 22:04 |
| starstreak | i think the twittersphere would blow up if people suddenly couldnt own a computer that could decode text files | Jan 27 22:05 |
| starstreak | the linux world didnt end with UEFI Secure boot, it ended with nutjobs like you | Jan 27 22:06 |
| starstreak | Redhat is pushing UEFI secure boot enabled RHEL and its amazing | Jan 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | all your data are text files? | Jan 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | >calls people nutjobs randomly | Jan 27 22:06 |
| starstreak | my important shit is | Jan 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | >can't understand why people call him a troll | Jan 27 22:06 |
| starstreak | mbox is just text | Jan 27 22:07 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, don't you have ops? | Jan 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | at least you finally revealed why you're here | Jan 27 22:07 |
| starstreak | my first personal attack of tonight | Jan 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i do, but i can't really use them | Jan 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | starstreak: no, not the first | Jan 27 22:07 |
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| MinceR | starstreak: perhaps you don't realize that your idols have not shut the doors on restricted boot yet, just made it more difficult to use with every major windows release | Jan 27 22:08 |
| starstreak | cubexyz: why do you have this need to silence me from everyone else? | Jan 27 22:08 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: Redhat has had to push very had to undo the first UEFI design Lot of work redhat has got it so we can change the PK on uefi systems. | Jan 27 22:08 |
| starstreak | its probably a good thing to russel this echo camber up once in a while | Jan 27 22:09 |
| MinceR | you should have read the public logs, then you'd know this is not an echo chamber | Jan 27 22:09 |
| starstreak | i learned sometimes its useful to have shit like p3s kicking around for some niche shit | Jan 27 22:09 |
| MinceR | interesting, you just attacked someone for having the audacity to have some p3s around | Jan 27 22:09 |
| starstreak | echo chamber, sorry, meant a circle jerk | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | now you're just throwing shit at the wall | Jan 27 22:10 |
| starstreak | attacked? i said he was killing the planet | Jan 27 22:10 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: you started with a personal attack. | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | trying to find what you get kickbanned for | Jan 27 22:10 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the fact he was not killing the planet you did not understand all the fact and then you did not say sorry. | Jan 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | starstreak: you do realize that once your beloved redhat manages to destroy unix, microsoft will just lock out the keys redhat has bought, right? | Jan 27 22:11 |
| starstreak | if im getting kickbanned is cubexyz too? | Jan 27 22:11 |
| MinceR | cubexyz is not trolling, you are | Jan 27 22:11 |
| starstreak | how am i trolling | Jan 27 22:11 |
| MinceR | besides, we have a tradition of keeping trolls around | Jan 27 22:11 |
| starstreak | im not trying to make people mad | Jan 27 22:11 |
| starstreak | if a debate makes you mad thats not healthy | Jan 27 22:12 |
| cubexyz | I think after a certain point a 24-hour ban is appropriate | Jan 27 22:12 |
| oiaohm | Redhat bought keys because they had no choice to do business. Places like Debian are still have trouble. | Jan 27 22:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: have you seen the conditions microsoft puts on signing firmware loaders. | Jan 27 22:12 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: debian can use the linux foundations key | Jan 27 22:12 |
| MinceR | a debate is one thing, shitslinging is another | Jan 27 22:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so you have not. | Jan 27 22:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: do the wrong things Microsoft will revoke the signing. | Jan 27 22:12 |
| MinceR | so you don't see what's wrong with paying microsoft for the right to have your code boot somewhat easier on uefi appliances, do you? | Jan 27 22:13 |
| oiaohm | This is why replacing the PK and installing you own KEK is so important. | Jan 27 22:13 |
| MinceR | (or letting them be the gatekeeper of them in the first place) | Jan 27 22:13 |
| starstreak | they arent the gatekeeper | Jan 27 22:13 |
| MinceR | no, this is why uefi should die | Jan 27 22:13 |
| MinceR | yes they are | Jan 27 22:13 |
| starstreak | they are not | Jan 27 22:13 |
| MinceR | so why did redhat and canonical pay them? | Jan 27 22:13 |
| starstreak | i just bought a lenovo server for a township deployment that came with no keys | Jan 27 22:13 |
| MinceR | and why do they get to dictate what uefi is like on what used to be pcs? | Jan 27 22:14 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jan 27 22:14 |
| starstreak | i have to install the OS and then it can get keys from that | Jan 27 22:14 |
| starstreak | so microsoft had nothing to do with that UEFI implementation | Jan 27 22:14 |
| MinceR | go tell redhat and canonical, maybe they can get a refund | Jan 27 22:15 |
| starstreak | theres nothing wrong with UEFI or secure boot, and most companies like ASUS and Gigabyte who make motherboards for PCs dont give a shit what microsoft thinks | Jan 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | (and apparently the Linux-destroying Foundation too) | Jan 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | so you keep insisting | Jan 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | without any evidence | Jan 27 22:15 |
| starstreak | i build computers every day | Jan 27 22:15 |
| starstreak | every bios has had custom keys, or the ability to disable secure boot | Jan 27 22:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot the worst bit is to get a shim signed by Microsoft you have to run Microsoft windows to upload. | Jan 27 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | SecureBoot - Debian Wiki | Jan 27 22:16 | |
| MinceR | and you think putting hardware modules together has enlightened you on how the internals work? | Jan 27 22:16 |
| MinceR | nice, another spit in the face of competition | Jan 27 22:16 |
| starstreak | well if you invent conspiracy theories you cant prove i guess you can apply them to everything | Jan 27 22:16 |
| MinceR | why don't you put more effort into your insults? | Jan 27 22:16 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: yes every bios has custom keys option but they do it differently. | Jan 27 22:16 |
| starstreak | show me Microsofts contract with ASUS and Gigabyte | Jan 27 22:16 |
| MinceR | a markov model could do better work than you | Jan 27 22:16 |
| MinceR | it seems to me redhat isn't getting their money's worth | Jan 27 22:17 |
| starstreak | if you think thats an insult you're more of a princess than I am | Jan 27 22:17 |
| MinceR | well, at least that's a bit more imaginative | Jan 27 22:17 |
| MinceR | still, no substance | Jan 27 22:17 |
| starstreak | oh well im not trying to insult you | Jan 27 22:18 |
| starstreak | i got triggered by "p3" cuz im trying to save the planet | Jan 27 22:18 |
| MinceR | from whom? | Jan 27 22:18 |
| cubexyz | new Intel CPUS: "They come with Intel Boot Guard and you are won't be able to boot anything which is unsigned and not approved by OEM. This means the OEM are fusing SHA256 public key hashes into the southbridge" | Jan 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | people who'd like to have a computer that obeys them and only them? | Jan 27 22:19 |
| cubexyz | so people will be locked out of coreboot or alternative firmware | Jan 27 22:19 |
| starstreak | so why not buy ARM | Jan 27 22:19 |
| starstreak | MIPS | Jan 27 22:19 |
| starstreak | PPC | Jan 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | ARM devices also tend to be locked down | Jan 27 22:19 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: again commenting without information. | Jan 27 22:19 |
| starstreak | you can get unlocked arm devices fairly easy | Jan 27 22:19 |
| cubexyz | intel boot guard was a 4th gen thing (Haswell) | Jan 27 22:19 |
| starstreak | they would also handle 1080p video unlike a p3 | Jan 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | i'm planning to try to build a computer with an FPGA | Jan 27 22:20 |
| starstreak | i wasnt suggesting throwing away a p3 to buy an i7 with windows 10 and shit | Jan 27 22:20 |
| starstreak | a raspi would crush a p3 | Jan 27 22:20 |
| starstreak | im sure hes just using desktop stuff | Jan 27 22:20 |
| MinceR | rpi-s are pretty great, i'm typing on one | Jan 27 22:20 |
| MinceR | but they're not perfect | Jan 27 22:20 |
| starstreak | yeah they're awesome | Jan 27 22:21 |
| starstreak | and not 100 watts | Jan 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | they still have nonfree firmware, afaik | Jan 27 22:21 |
| cubexyz | some of the chinese FPGA's have backdoors I'm sorry to say | Jan 27 22:21 |
| oiaohm | raspi still have stablitity issues. | Jan 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | though people are working on that too | Jan 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: how sophisticated are they? | Jan 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: perhaps their effect could be mitigated | Jan 27 22:21 |
| oiaohm | and raspi have black boxes including really strange things like the raspi equal to me chip being the GPU. | Jan 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | (or i'll just have to have ASICs manufactured someday...) | Jan 27 22:21 |
| starstreak | rraspi is popular | Jan 27 22:21 |
| starstreak | there are other super chinese arm devices with killer hardware | Jan 27 22:22 |
| oiaohm | Popular and sanely designed don't always align. | Jan 27 22:22 |
| starstreak | im sure linux runs my goluk | Jan 27 22:22 |
| cubexyz | some stuff is really buried deep, that's why folks are talking about decapping and xraying chips nowadays | Jan 27 22:22 |
| MinceR | most SBCs have far worse support than rpi-s | Jan 27 22:22 |
| MinceR | i have a CubieTruck but i can't get it to run 1080p | Jan 27 22:22 |
| MinceR | it just crashes with a screen full of random pixels | Jan 27 22:22 |
| cubexyz | there's a whole CPU buried in some motherboards that people don't even know about | Jan 27 22:22 |
| starstreak | i got this "Goluk Super Fun Dashcam" and it has a built in wifi router and records in 1080p constantly on a loop | Jan 27 22:23 |
| starstreak | probably runs on one of those ASICs | Jan 27 22:23 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, it was one of the military grade FPGAs | Jan 27 22:23 |
| cubexyz | Actel/Microsemi ProASIC3 chip specifically | Jan 27 22:23 |
| oiaohm | This is a fun device https://www.crowdsupply.com/numato-lab/opsis | Jan 27 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Numato Opsis: FPGA-based open video platform | Crowd Supply | Jan 27 22:23 | |
| MinceR | yeah, looks nice | Jan 27 22:24 |
| oiaohm | Ok not a PC but open source conference got sick of the video capture and retransmit devices failing mid confernce so made their own. | Jan 27 22:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 22:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes 2 1080p in with 2 1080 out. | Jan 27 22:25 |
| starstreak | i love this | Jan 27 22:25 |
| starstreak | https://wifipineapple.com/ | Jan 27 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wifipineapple.com | WiFi Pineapple - Home | Jan 27 22:25 | |
| cubexyz | anyways, you probably want to avoid the Actel ProASIC3 one | Jan 27 22:25 |
| cubexyz | sometimes it's not malicious | Jan 27 22:26 |
| cubexyz | "we forgot about that debugging backdoor" | Jan 27 22:26 |
| cubexyz | still... | Jan 27 22:26 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 22:27 |
| starstreak | they probably did forget | Jan 27 22:28 |
| starstreak | humans afterall | Jan 27 22:28 |
| MinceR | how well can an FPGA backdoor work if it's configured in a way the designers of the backdoor didn't know in advance? | Jan 27 22:28 |
| starstreak | i would give them the benefit of the doubt unless it happened again | Jan 27 22:28 |
| MinceR | say, with some sort of free software SoC design, with potential modifications | Jan 27 22:28 |
| cubexyz | only the original designers would really know | Jan 27 22:30 |
| cubexyz | the designers of the FPGA that is | Jan 27 22:31 |
| oiaohm | This is where it comes hard with FPGA you have to worry about complier. the opsis end up not using any of the makers library of template code for the FPGA mostly because those turn out to be strangely oversized. | Jan 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | afaik there is a free software compiler (or equivalent) for FPGA | Jan 27 22:32 |
| oiaohm | opsis is covered in the LCA2017 conference videos. | Jan 27 22:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: for some FPGA yes like icestorm. | Jan 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/getting-started-with-fpga-with-only-free-and-open-source-software-and-hardware-tools-tutorial/ | Jan 27 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olimex.wordpress.com | Getting started with FPGA with only Free and Open source software and hardware tools tutorial | olimex [ http://ur1.ca/qefm7 ] | Jan 27 22:33 | |
| cubexyz | and I think the FPGA could always be reprogrammed every time it's turned on | Jan 27 22:34 |
| MinceR | is that necessary? | Jan 27 22:34 |
| cubexyz | the FPGA bitstream has to be reloaded from the EEPROM every time power is applied | Jan 27 22:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 27 22:34 |
| cubexyz | I think you might want a CPLD instead | Jan 27 22:35 |
| cubexyz | but the question is, how powerful will it be? | Jan 27 22:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know the internals of FPGAs and CPLDs too well | Jan 27 22:36 |
| MinceR | the idea would be to build a free software general purpose computer on them | Jan 27 22:36 |
| cubexyz | but I know the CPLD is non-volatile | Jan 27 22:36 |
| MinceR | with enough power to run contemporary free unixes, X, applications, etc. | Jan 27 22:37 |
| MinceR | though the steps that lead to this would be simpler and lower powered | Jan 27 22:37 |
| MinceR | a big realization for me was that the non-IC-based computer i read about was so big and yet so slow | Jan 27 22:40 |
| MinceR | forgot the name | Jan 27 22:40 |
| MinceR | but it seemed to follow that i would need to rely on ICs if i were to build a practical computer | Jan 27 22:40 |
| cubexyz | depends on what you what | Jan 27 22:41 |
| cubexyz | if the idea is just understanding you could go down to the logic gate level | Jan 27 22:41 |
| MinceR | >CPLDs typically have the equivalent of thousands to tens of thousands of logic gates | Jan 27 22:41 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it would be enough | Jan 27 22:41 |
| MinceR | well, part of it is understanding | Jan 27 22:42 |
| MinceR | but part of it is having a general purpose computer that is backdoorless with a high confidence | Jan 27 22:42 |
| cubexyz | some bad hat hacker could possibly KO your FPGA and that would suck | Jan 27 22:42 |
| MinceR | how? | Jan 27 22:42 |
| cubexyz | not sure how, but it's non permanent | Jan 27 22:42 |
| cubexyz | like a black hat could maybe erase your BIOS chip | Jan 27 22:43 |
| MinceR | also, maybe some processes could be farmed out to untrusted devices, but i haven't figured any of that out yet | Jan 27 22:43 |
| cubexyz | but I guess you could just reprogram it again | Jan 27 22:43 |
| MinceR | hopefully i can either integrate a switch/jumper of some sort to make it readonly | Jan 27 22:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember you can put a write protect switch on a FPGA flash. | Jan 27 22:44 |
| MinceR | or just require taking it out of the socket for programming | Jan 27 22:44 |
| cubexyz | is there a physical switch, or is it just software? | Jan 27 22:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: board design some fpga boards have a physical switch some don't. | Jan 27 22:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: biggest issue with FPGA is lack of speed like 100Mhz cpu is kind pushing it. | Jan 27 22:45 |
| MinceR | that could be difficult to work with | Jan 27 22:46 |
| cubexyz | 100 mhz is good enough for a lot of things though | Jan 27 22:46 |
| cubexyz | IRC, email, any ncurses program | Jan 27 22:46 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 27 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Note I said 100mhz is kinda pushing it more back around 30 to 50mhz in less effective cpu designs. | Jan 27 22:49 |
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| cubexyz | you could build a computer from TTL chips | Jan 27 23:01 |
| cubexyz | e.g. SN7400 has 4 NAND gates | Jan 27 23:02 |
| cubexyz | that's pretty low level | Jan 27 23:02 |
| cubexyz | you could even make a logic gate from transistors | Jan 27 23:02 |
| cubexyz | but I'd draw the line at the IC level | Jan 27 23:03 |
| cubexyz | that's early 1970s era | Jan 27 23:06 |
| cubexyz | you want to learn stuff one interesting simulator is Atanua | Jan 27 23:19 |
| cubexyz | http://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&wihttp://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=falsedth=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false | Jan 27 23:19 |
| cubexyz | oops sorry | Jan 27 23:19 |
| cubexyz | http://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false | Jan 27 23:20 |
| cubexyz | better link: | Jan 27 23:20 |
| cubexyz | http://sol.gfxile.net/atanua/index.html | Jan 27 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sol.gfxile.net | Atanua - About | Jan 27 23:20 | |
| cubexyz | maybe there's a FOSS one somewhere | Jan 27 23:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 23:21 |
| cubexyz | http://alternativeto.net/software/digital-logic-design/ | Jan 27 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digital Logic Design Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net [ http://ur1.ca/qefvs ] | Jan 27 23:22 | |
| cubexyz | here's one that works in the browser: | Jan 27 23:25 |
| cubexyz | http://www.neuroproductions.be/logic-lab/ | Jan 27 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neuroproductions.be | The Logic Lab: simulating simple circuits of logic gates [ http://ur1.ca/qefwk ] | Jan 27 23:25 | |
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| MinceR | https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6OInpdIqucs/WIvR2YAOmeI/AAAAAAAAbrs/53-HO261B_kaeW0u2SxC2XVeybZJ4XPWACPcB/s1600/Directions%2Bunclear%2B-%2Bbuilt%2Bwall%2Bmade%2Bof%2Billegal%2Bimmigrants.png | Jan 27 23:47 |
| starstreak | Does anyone here have a security certifciation? | Jan 27 23:52 |
| ---starstreak is now known as ender2070 | Jan 27 23:53 | |
| MinceR | well, i suppose i do | Jan 27 23:53 |
| MinceR | it does not follow | Jan 27 23:55 |
| MinceR | my special (dunno if that's the right term) at university was Security of Information and Communication Systems; and i also have some certification related to an IT security product i worked on | Jan 27 23:56 |
| MinceR | that said, some of the evil shit microsoft and apple did is pretty damn public | Jan 27 23:56 |
| MinceR | hell, some of them they had you sign they had the right to do when you first used their crap | Jan 27 23:57 |
| MinceR | like the stuff on updating DRM mechanisms in the winblows EULA | Jan 27 23:57 |
| MinceR | there was some (surprisingly minor) outrage about Backdoors10 having no way to opt out of 'updates' for consumer versions | Jan 27 23:58 |
| MinceR | which is, again, arbitrary code execution | Jan 27 23:58 |
| MinceR | and hypeOS also had some mechanism to push code, iirc | Jan 27 23:59 |
| MinceR | (it was longer ago, so the details are not quite clear) | Jan 27 23:59 |
| MinceR | baseband processors' ability to function at least in theory as a backdoor is also documented | Jan 27 23:59 |
| MinceR | iirc there was something concrete about some samsung stuff | Jan 28 00:00 |
| MinceR | ikr | Jan 28 00:00 |
| MinceR | basically if the baseband processor can do DMA to the RAM you run applications from (which seems to be desirable for fast internet connections), you can't trust that device too much | Jan 28 00:01 |
| MinceR | my practice regarding this is to have it tether (over WiFi or USB) to a laptop or non-3G tablet and run the sensitive stuff on that | Jan 28 00:01 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Jan 28 00:01 |
| MinceR | they'll proclaim you to be a terrorist when it's convenient for them to do so | Jan 28 00:01 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jan 28 00:02 |
| MinceR | they've been accused of doing stuff like insider trading | Jan 28 00:02 |
| MinceR | the official excuse might be something like using 'Big Data' to find out _if_ you're a terrorist | Jan 28 00:03 |
| MinceR | they seem to be trying to watch everyone | Jan 28 00:03 |
| MinceR | and afaik it isn't really working out in practice | Jan 28 00:03 |
| MinceR | the point is, they aren't going through a list when it comes to many of the evil shit they do | Jan 28 00:04 |
| MinceR | it isn't even applicable to trying to weaken the security of stuff we use | Jan 28 00:04 |
| MinceR | (Dual_EC_DRBG, systemd) | Jan 28 00:04 |
| MinceR | they do have the computational power to watch a lot of network connections and dump it all into storage | Jan 28 00:05 |
| MinceR | and they do have the leverage to coerce people into compromising security | Jan 28 00:05 |
| MinceR | well yeah, don't use facebook | Jan 28 00:05 |
| MinceR | or not | Jan 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | depends on the people | Jan 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | afaik there's still alleged functionality to post things that are only visible to a smaller group of people | Jan 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | and most users aren't IT professionals | Jan 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | afaik the privacy settings have a way of changing from time to time | Jan 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | (at least people have complained about it) | Jan 28 00:07 |
| MinceR | and of course, things like 'the user asked us to keep this private' isn't going to stop an organization which has much of its legal environment tailored to its needs | Jan 28 00:08 |
| MinceR | (secret laws, secret interpretations, secret courts) | Jan 28 00:08 |
| MinceR | probably doesn't vary that much within the Five Eyes | Jan 28 00:08 |
| MinceR | they pretty much spy on each others' citizens to get around regulations saying they're not allowed to spy on their own citizens | Jan 28 00:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, they pay lip service to it | Jan 28 00:09 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't, i'm not usian | Jan 28 00:09 |
| MinceR | oh, also, while we're on the topic of state institutions using trickery to pretend they're obeying the law when they aren't -- consider also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction | Jan 28 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Parallel construction - Wikipedia | Jan 28 00:12 | |
| MinceR | did Canada follow its own laws when Harper got some police officers get out of doing illegal things unscathed? | Jan 28 00:12 |
| MinceR | did Canada follow its own laws when Harper muzzled scientists on government money? | Jan 28 00:13 |
| MinceR | including whatever is Canada's equivalent of the Constitution? | Jan 28 00:13 |
| MinceR | 28 061239 < MinceR> did Canada follow its own laws when Harper got some police officers get out of doing illegal things unscathed? | Jan 28 00:14 |
| MinceR | oh, i forgot that he did this _retroactively_ | Jan 28 00:14 |
| MinceR | retroactive lawmaking is incompatible with the idea of rule of law | Jan 28 00:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, and has Useless Justin undone anything about what he did? | Jan 28 00:14 |
| MinceR | he had an awful lot of terms in office for that | Jan 28 00:15 |
| MinceR | harper, i mean | Jan 28 00:15 |
| MinceR | i seem to remember differently, but whatever | Jan 28 00:15 |
| MinceR | well, you're not the only canadian who chats around here | Jan 28 00:16 |
| MinceR | (i'm not canadian, though) | Jan 28 00:16 |
| MinceR | that's an interesting way of categorizing people | Jan 28 00:17 |
| MinceR | ah, so preferring untrustworthy broken crap for a job is "pragmatic" | Jan 28 00:19 |
| MinceR | well, i guess some people enjoy putting the broken pieces together | Jan 28 00:19 |
| MinceR | at the end of the day, a lot of my computer usage is not about making money | Jan 28 00:19 |
| MinceR | you're also forgetting the amount of damage to your nervous system | Jan 28 00:20 |
| MinceR | i.e. trying to get outlook and exchange do the right thing at work and then working around their inability to do so | Jan 28 00:20 |
| MinceR | s/i.e./e.g./ | Jan 28 00:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 00:21 |
| MinceR | i can, and have | Jan 28 00:21 |
| MinceR | but my client couldn't be arsed to use anything standard | Jan 28 00:21 |
| MinceR | actual imap and some sane mail server daemons | Jan 28 00:21 |
| MinceR | (not what m$ calls "imap" or whatever) | Jan 28 00:21 |
| MinceR | (also, you're lucky if they actually enable "imap" on exchange and tell you the parameters) | Jan 28 00:22 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much that helps when exchange decides to "deliver" your mail to your Trash folder | Jan 28 00:23 |
| MinceR | (did that to me for weeks) | Jan 28 00:23 |
| MinceR | (and at the end, exchange and outlook together decided to delete it all) | Jan 28 00:23 |
| MinceR | that's microsoft | Jan 28 00:23 |
| MinceR | and it's to be expected when they realize that spending the money on corruption, lawyers and ads is more profitable than spending it on software engineers | Jan 28 00:23 |
| MinceR | i have | Jan 28 00:24 |
| MinceR | i haven't used folders that much in gmail, though | Jan 28 00:24 |
| MinceR | i did end up with duplicate mail in other ways, though | Jan 28 00:24 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if they autotagged back then | Jan 28 00:24 |
| MinceR | still, i'll take duplicate mail over irrecoverably nuked mail any day | Jan 28 00:24 |
| MinceR | not to mention what the morons in redmond believe about mail threading | Jan 28 00:25 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Jan 28 00:28 |
| MinceR | though i don't get why a large local copy of a mailbox on disk should be that much of a catastrophe | Jan 28 00:28 |
| MinceR | unless they just fucked up the database format | Jan 28 00:28 |
| MinceR | like feed readers do | Jan 28 00:29 |
| MinceR | i prefer Maildir | Jan 28 00:29 |
| MinceR | yes | Jan 28 00:29 |
| MinceR | with some metadata in the filename | Jan 28 00:29 |
| MinceR | and atomic operations ensured by the filesystem | Jan 28 00:29 |
| MinceR | but yeah, i'll take mbox over microsoft's nonstandard binary mess any day | Jan 28 00:30 |
| MinceR | sure, but most of the usage is not transferring the mailbox | Jan 28 00:32 |
| MinceR | of course, if you wanted to optimize for this, i suppose you could use a filesystem image or something | Jan 28 00:32 |
| MinceR | not sure if there's a fs image that can actually grow/shrink on demand though | Jan 28 00:33 |
| MinceR | which would be nice | Jan 28 00:33 |
| cubexyz | XFS has xfs_growfs | Jan 28 00:34 |
| *MinceR looks up xfs_growfs | Jan 28 00:34 | |
| MinceR | well, that's not on demand, but it can still help somewhat | Jan 28 00:34 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem like an easy problem | Jan 28 00:35 |
| cubexyz | SGI's thing I think it was | Jan 28 00:35 |
| MinceR | basically your files can have their blocks interspersed with each other and with normal file access this is ok, but when you have to copy them all you have to seek a lot | Jan 28 00:36 |
| MinceR | unless you can somehow collect the data and plan the operation | Jan 28 00:36 |
| MinceR | plus if you have small files, you're going to read a lot of sectors where you'll discard much of the sector | Jan 28 00:36 |
| cubexyz | you could divide your data by year | Jan 28 00:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 00:36 |
| cubexyz | rather than just one large file with everything | Jan 28 00:36 |
| MinceR | is it easy to see which you've received and which you've sent? | Jan 28 00:38 |
| MinceR | (also, does it screw with the email client ui?) | Jan 28 00:38 |
| cubexyz | on linux the mail is /var/mail/user | Jan 28 00:41 |
| cubexyz | so just backup /var/mail and sort it out later | Jan 28 00:41 |
| cubexyz | as long as you don't have gigs of emails | Jan 28 00:42 |
| MinceR | has any of you tried any secure-by-default email replacement yet? | Jan 28 00:44 |
| MinceR | (like Cables) | Jan 28 00:44 |
| MinceR | encrypted by default, thus resistant to social engineering downgrade attacks | Jan 28 00:45 |
| MinceR | (that is, attacker keeps screwing up your encrypted data until a user gives up and sends in cleartext instead) | Jan 28 00:46 |
| cubexyz | I don't use email for any important information | Jan 28 00:46 |
| cubexyz | the gov stuff is all web based and locked down | Jan 28 00:46 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Jan 28 00:49 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Jan 28 00:50 |
| cubexyz | they tried to encrypt DVDs, and ebooks and bluray and look how well that worked out | Jan 28 00:51 |
| MinceR | he keeps coming and going | Jan 28 00:53 |
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| cubexyz | gmail uses TLS automatically anyways | Jan 28 00:57 |
| MinceR | TLS is not end-to-end though | Jan 28 00:57 |
| cubexyz | my rule is never use email with sensitive stuff ever | Jan 28 00:58 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: https://openpgpjs.org/ items like this do bring questions. Why is not producing GPG standard feature of browser and email clients. | Jan 28 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openpgpjs.org | OpenPGP.js | OpenPGP JavaScript Implementation | Jan 28 01:02 | |
| oiaohm | Note I said browser/email clients. There is no private key store in browsers at this stage. Even the email client that support GPG most don't support using keys protected in side like USB keys as we can with Linux to ssh into servers. | Jan 28 01:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes USB devices that decode the GPG internally so the private key is never on the machine in a copiable location. | Jan 28 01:05 |
| oiaohm | In the USB key with no network connection. | Jan 28 01:06 |
| oiaohm | or read out ablity. | Jan 28 01:07 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: there are some really sane reasons to have ssh keys stuck instead USB keys. Main one is that a developer cannot by mistake upload them onto github or equal. | Jan 28 01:11 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: same also applies to server TLS keys. | Jan 28 01:11 |
| oiaohm | Locking encryption keys inside restricted devices is also required to pass for credit card processing with different groups. | Jan 28 01:12 |
| oiaohm | revoke only works if 1 you know it compromised 2 you can get the revoking message out. So prevention in this case is better than cure. So GPG and processing engine embedded in something with restricted in out kinda makes attack a lot harder. | Jan 28 01:18 |
| oiaohm | To make a device that can process GPG internally these days is less than 20 dollars. | Jan 28 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Distribution could upgrade their policies to say sign by device. Prefered the device been auditable FOSS system. | Jan 28 01:21 |
| oiaohm | The objective of a device is to make key theift a lot harder. | Jan 28 01:21 |
| oiaohm | and when you are not signing things be sure the key is removed from the machine. | Jan 28 01:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways we are super sloppy with security. | Jan 28 01:22 |
| oiaohm | No everything. | Jan 28 01:23 |
| oiaohm | there are a few expections. | Jan 28 01:23 |
| oiaohm | Define hacked. | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | Like even social engineering cannot extract a gpg/pgp key out a isolated device. | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | No it cannot. | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | the public key is generated inside the device then only the private key is ever released from the device. | Jan 28 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Attempt to open device and the private key goes by by. | Jan 28 01:25 |
| oiaohm | GPG devices do. | Jan 28 01:26 |
| oiaohm | keyservers never need to see the private key in the open. | Jan 28 01:26 |
| oiaohm | I wrote that one line backwards should have been private key generated and only private keys released from device. | Jan 28 01:28 |
| oiaohm | Linux con you know NSA guys are there because they do have NSA on their shirts a lot of the time. | Jan 28 01:28 |
| cubexyz | really... NSA guys advertise the fact they work for the NSA? :) | Jan 28 01:29 |
| cubexyz | seems like it would be against the rules or something | Jan 28 01:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: NSA has different staff some are public researches who have no trouble even been a presentor at a conference. | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | https://www.wired.com/2015/09/tricky-encryption-stump-quantum-computers/ << mind you quantum computers are not the be all and end all. Of course as tech advances upgrading encryption tech is always required. | Jan 28 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Tricky Encryption That Could Stump Quantum Computers | WIRED | Jan 28 01:31 | |
| oiaohm | ender2070: the thing here is lattice encryption is older than RSA stuff we use now. The base to GPG is lattice with prime numbers used to keep key exchange small so becoming RSA. So a stunt to make GPG more compact to transport makes it quatum attackable. | Jan 28 01:37 |
| oiaohm | lattice encryption by design is not weak to shors | Jan 28 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Its only if you add something on top of it wrong is it weak to it. | Jan 28 01:38 |
| oiaohm | So a really old classical encryption screwed up quantum. | Jan 28 01:38 |
| cubexyz | there are no quantum computers | Jan 28 01:39 |
| oiaohm | lattice keys are not small either small lattice key is 2 megabyte. | Jan 28 01:39 |
| cubexyz | there's experiments only, nothing useable | Jan 28 01:39 |
| oiaohm | The problem is lattice pure require a massive quantum computer to attempt it and then nothing about lattice tells you if you have attempted to decode with a invalid key. | Jan 28 01:40 |
| oiaohm | quantum computer attacking an encryption that does not say hey that wrong is a has a very hard headache ahead of it. | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Problem is for short messages lattice every value is a possible decode that is valid. | Jan 28 01:43 |
| oiaohm | So attempting to filter to what would be human readable gets you absolutely no where. | Jan 28 01:43 |
| oiaohm | lattice was designed to resist brute forcing. | Jan 28 01:43 |
| oiaohm | lattice predates GPG. | Jan 28 01:44 |
| oiaohm | And massive computer power does not help you if the encryption has no clues to what is valid. | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | any encryption beatable by brute force quantum computer make break very quickly. | Jan 28 01:46 |
| oiaohm | but not all encryptions have that weakness. | Jan 28 01:46 |
| oiaohm | lattice you trade public keys with each other that are huge with equally huge private keys. That are fairly close to one time pads when you allow for message offsetting and other protections it has. | Jan 28 01:48 |
| oiaohm | You are starting to see why the most attacks have been against staff. | Jan 28 01:50 |
| oiaohm | The reality is no matter what there will always be some form of encryption that with the tools of the current day cannot be broken. | Jan 28 01:51 |
| oiaohm | social engineering is not 100 percent as kevin mitnick found out. | Jan 28 01:52 |
| oiaohm | Julian Assange before wikileaks was hacking into USA stuff around the same time as kevin mitnick. | Jan 28 01:53 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange << 1987-1991 Please note the Australian government took him on as a technical adviser in 1993. | Jan 28 01:55 |
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| oiaohm | ender2070: remember 1987-1991 crimes Julian Assange did only could get forced to pay the cost of the power bill. | Jan 28 01:56 |
| oiaohm | Assange is a pure believer in information should be free and that is from 1987 | Jan 28 01:58 |
| oiaohm | Most people are not aware of Assanges criminal history. | Jan 28 01:58 |
| oiaohm | even that it on the wikipedia | Jan 28 01:58 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_%28file_system%29 this is 1997. The thing with Assange he has repeated track history of the same thing. | Jan 28 02:00 |
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| oiaohm | Really a lot of that belief was based on not looking at what wikileaks had been releasing. | Jan 28 02:01 |
| oiaohm | USA media did want to put Assange on one side. | Jan 28 02:01 |
| oiaohm | China has a government has their own department for wissle blowers. anti corruption is taken very serous-ally in china anyone wanting to release proper evidence on those crimes get paid by the government for doing so if they use the government system. | Jan 28 02:05 |
| oiaohm | So china not having many leaks is understandable. | Jan 28 02:06 |
| oiaohm | I will give you russia is a strangeness. | Jan 28 02:06 |
| oiaohm | I did not say they were friendly. | Jan 28 02:08 |
| oiaohm | Now not using the proper channels in china expect torture. | Jan 28 02:08 |
| oiaohm | So they will pay you on one hand or torture you on the other. | Jan 28 02:09 |
| oiaohm | by china standard waterboarding is them only minorlly annoyed with you. | Jan 28 02:12 |
| oiaohm | The thing is if you are release information that is for the long term public good china pays people for that. So a person reporting about how they were tortured in china and they really were by china standard they have done nothing wrong. | Jan 28 02:13 |
| oiaohm | So china is stupid in that way. They take you they torture you for speaking out but then you do a write up in the paper about it and they pay your for it. | Jan 28 02:14 |
| oiaohm | It is the china difference they are not saying you cannot talk about what was done to you. Its more like you can talk about it but is going to make absolutely no difference. | Jan 28 02:15 |
| oiaohm | No blame game what torturer did in china was legal so they promise to consider reform and do nothing. | Jan 28 02:16 |
| oiaohm | Exactly and the person complianing comes public entertainment. | Jan 28 02:17 |
| oiaohm | So not see any major released out of china its just how nasty china is. | Jan 28 02:17 |
| oiaohm | It the art of war if you have no secrets no one can black mail you. | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | Russia I don't know why its odd on leaks. | Jan 28 02:19 |
| oiaohm | China makes absolute sense its there insane system. | Jan 28 02:19 |
| oiaohm | Now you think if every country had a system like china. | Jan 28 02:19 |
| oiaohm | there would be nothing for wikileaks to uniquely report. | Jan 28 02:20 |
| oiaohm | China suggests would not change a thing. If our government systems horrible now they will still be horrible after free information leaking. | Jan 28 02:21 |
| oiaohm | But it would save some of the government around the world wasting money attempting to prevent people leaking information in the public good. | Jan 28 02:23 |
| oiaohm | Of course that information being out there does not mean they will improve their ways. | Jan 28 02:23 |
| oiaohm | The reality neither trump or hillary was ideal. | Jan 28 02:24 |
| oiaohm | See trump to the china method. | Jan 28 02:28 |
| oiaohm | Lets just own up to everything then we cannot be black mailed. | Jan 28 02:29 |
| oiaohm | Even that we are a evil bit of works. | Jan 28 02:29 |
| oiaohm | The China method is scary effective as long as the other side attempts to hide things. If you are trying to rat groups you don't like out playing the china way make the groups hiding information from the government seam like the bad guy to a lot of people. | Jan 28 02:30 |
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| schestowitz | hi ender2070 | Jan 28 03:01 |
| schestowitz | long time no see | Jan 28 03:01 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 28 03:10 |
| schestowitz | still in TO? | Jan 28 03:10 |
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| cubexyz | things were civil for _months_ until starstream/ender reappeared | Jan 28 08:12 |
| cubexyz | you know, there should be some indication in the BIOS itself that it has Intel ME | Jan 28 08:20 |
| cubexyz | oh well at least I made some progress this morning with the DVD research | Jan 28 08:22 |
| cubexyz | got a few more service manuals | Jan 28 08:22 |
| cubexyz | not the exact one I wanted but similar | Jan 28 08:23 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: early ME there does not have to be indication that ME exists other than the firmware containing intel universal microcode image. That might be there because the firmware uploads it. Latter ME you see firmware for the ME in the bios image. | Jan 28 09:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it does become a question do you care about first generation me chips that are rom coded and only do the basics. | Jan 28 09:08 |
| cubexyz | it would help if I knew what the 1st generation me chip was | Jan 28 09:09 |
| oiaohm | From a security point if view I don't care about 1st generation ME chips I care about 7 generation being where they added AMT to the mix being 2007 | Jan 28 09:13 |
| cubexyz | the documentation on this seems very spotty | Jan 28 09:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://people.kth.se/~maguire/DEGREE-PROJECT-REPORTS/100402-Vassilios_Ververis-with-cover.pdf the breach documentation is also very spotty but scares the living heck out of a person like me. | Jan 28 09:19 |
| oiaohm | This is a acer from 2010. Where the faults in ME were network accessable to run AMT mode on then also flaws in AMT are bad enough that you can bipass that authentication as well. And the vendor asking for a fee to fix. | Jan 28 09:21 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like owning a laptop that is wireless controllable by any hositle network you connect to that knows how to do it. | Jan 28 09:22 |
| oiaohm | So some generations of ME firmware versions should be tagged if you machine has this your machine is toast. | Jan 28 09:23 |
| oiaohm | Add in intel boot guard where you cannot delete segments out of the ME firmware image. So it go back to vendor and beg for a clean firmware image and hope no hostile upload into system the broken one again. | Jan 28 09:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_AMT_versions reading AMT versions give you clue of when things start turning to hell. | Jan 28 09:38 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Intel D975XBX2 motherboard at the start of AMT the AMT is not doing anything that bad. That is a 2006 board. But things go down hill 2.1 AMT has wake up on lan and 2.6 has remote configuration and 6 and up has possiblity of full KVM. | Jan 28 09:45 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I missed version 4 and up has possible of nuked harddrive. | Jan 28 09:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: http://people.kth.se/~maguire/DEGREE-PROJECT-REPORTS/100402-Vassilios_Ververis-with-cover.pdf << remember how you made out that ME is not a big problem. This was 2010 where a person found they could remotely turn on kvm mode then access kvm mode. | Jan 28 09:46 |
| starstreak | security bug | Jan 28 09:47 |
| starstreak | i dont attribute incompitence to malice | Jan 28 09:47 |
| starstreak | where the fuck is my spellcheck | Jan 28 09:48 |
| oiaohm | A security bug that if you read more intel has not obeyed security best practise at the time when they write the AMT part of the ME back then. Add in on modern system where you have boot guard so cannot change what the ME loads it from some vendors . | Jan 28 09:49 |
| starstreak | Look up the word incompetence | Jan 28 09:50 |
| starstreak | ironic that I misspelled it | Jan 28 09:50 |
| oiaohm | boot guard where if you are on the recieving end of remote accessing parts of ME being coded wrong the only way to fix it is junk the motherboard and if it be a laptop that is lot of cases junk the complete machine. | Jan 28 09:52 |
| oiaohm | That is kinda malice not having a process to provide fixed firmware. | Jan 28 09:53 |
| starstreak | Malice would mean they went out of their way and did it on purpose | Jan 28 09:53 |
| starstreak | I think this is the standard case of nobody coding for security | Jan 28 09:53 |
| oiaohm | The vendors go out of there way not to fix the machines with the problem. | Jan 28 09:53 |
| starstreak | and somewhere, a baby boomer is looking at a spreadsheet thinking that will save them money | Jan 28 09:54 |
| oiaohm | Avoiding providing firmware fixes are malice by vendor and intel did it with their own boards. | Jan 28 09:54 |
| starstreak | its incompetence again | Jan 28 09:54 |
| starstreak | 9 times out of 10, its incompetence and not some evil plan | Jan 28 09:55 |
| oiaohm | This case is kinda different. | Jan 28 09:55 |
| starstreak | you'll start to see if it you stop attributing malice to everything | Jan 28 09:55 |
| starstreak | humans are just fucking stupid | Jan 28 09:55 |
| oiaohm | I normally land on the side of incompetence | Jan 28 09:55 |
| razielle_tzu | given that intel are still not coding for security it may have started as incompetence buut can no longer be attributed to it | Jan 28 09:56 |
| starstreak | im sure there are engineers at intel who want to fix it and some baby boomer in management is looking at how much that will cost | Jan 28 09:56 |
| starstreak | and saying no | Jan 28 09:56 |
| oiaohm | But when you have two boards from intel one with boot guard one without and one gets an update the other does not and they are the ones with the signing key. And they release a new update patching something else so they have the signing key. | Jan 28 09:56 |
| starstreak | baby boomers in charge is the big problem right now | Jan 28 09:56 |
| oiaohm | So there is not incompetence in play there but lazy | Jan 28 09:56 |
| starstreak | they dont understand tech, just dollars | Jan 28 09:56 |
| starstreak | lazy is incompetence | Jan 28 09:57 |
| starstreak | i dont think intel wants to open its customers up to hacking but their devs dont know better | Jan 28 09:57 |
| starstreak | anyone who thinks backdoors are good usually don't know anything about security | Jan 28 09:58 |
| oiaohm | No lazy is not incompetence. Incompetence says you don't know what you are doing. Lazy includes malice where you decide not to do better. The answer is the board is out of support so not fixing the security fault. | Jan 28 09:58 |
| oiaohm | They will fix the power management fault that cause to intemittly stop running that could force them to give a refund in some countries. | Jan 28 09:58 |
| starstreak | oh you mean they aren't fixing it on old systems? | Jan 28 09:59 |
| starstreak | I would look at the warranty card and you'll notice you only get 3 years of support | Jan 28 09:59 |
| oiaohm | Most consumer law covers manufacture defects in electronics for 8 years. Power management playing up on the board intel has to fix for 8 years. But currently they argue remote management issues are not a manufacture defect. | Jan 28 10:00 |
| starstreak | where is that | Jan 28 10:01 |
| starstreak | lol | Jan 28 10:01 |
| starstreak | thats a ridiculous law | Jan 28 10:01 |
| oiaohm | Its called the functional operational life. | Jan 28 10:01 |
| starstreak | probably predates everything being made in china really shitty | Jan 28 10:01 |
| starstreak | before computers were all made in china i would agree it should last 8 years | Jan 28 10:02 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Jan 28 10:02 |
| starstreak | but the chinese cheap out on components to profit and then you end up with a piece of shit throwaway computer that lasts 3 years | Jan 28 10:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: before they were made in china the number was 14 years. | Jan 28 10:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so china production has cut 6 years off. | Jan 28 10:03 |
| starstreak | well they should have put it down to 3 years | Jan 28 10:03 |
| starstreak | not everyone is me | Jan 28 10:03 |
| starstreak | i take care of my shit and i put the extra money into getting the best and it usually lasts a good decade | Jan 28 10:03 |
| oiaohm | Intel in spec sheet for chipset put number of hours of operation that comes out to 8 years as well. | Jan 28 10:03 |
| starstreak | if i dont upgrade lol | Jan 28 10:04 |
| oiaohm | So intel in promised hours of operation promised to 8 years. | Jan 28 10:04 |
| starstreak | sure but they only offer 3 years of warranty | Jan 28 10:04 |
| starstreak | so they're only promising it'll work for 3 years | Jan 28 10:04 |
| oiaohm | 3 years warranty against envornmental conditions. | Jan 28 10:04 |
| starstreak | yeah well thats how it is in Canada | Jan 28 10:05 |
| oiaohm | So if the board cracks in 3 years they have to fix it. | Jan 28 10:05 |
| oiaohm | Other countries do go by the operational life promise as well. For manfacture defects. | Jan 28 10:05 |
| oiaohm | So if you are going to promise x hours of operation the board must have been possible todo that in ideal conditions. | Jan 28 10:06 |
| starstreak | i dont remember intel ever doing that here | Jan 28 10:06 |
| starstreak | i've never seen an intel cpu advertised or even documented on the box how many hours to get out of it | Jan 28 10:06 |
| oiaohm | Intel never documents on the box the number of hours of operation. Because it would have too many users asking questions. Why do my hours of operations go down as cpu clock speed go up. | Jan 28 10:07 |
| starstreak | aha | Jan 28 10:08 |
| starstreak | overclockers | Jan 28 10:08 |
| oiaohm | This applies to intel standard clocked cpus. | Jan 28 10:08 |
| starstreak | assholes who buy cheap cpus thinking they can just set the clock higher and get better performance | Jan 28 10:08 |
| starstreak | that dont understand that intel doesnt speed bin anymore | Jan 28 10:08 |
| starstreak | while AMD was winning in the early x64 days intel was improving its fabs | Jan 28 10:09 |
| oiaohm | most of cheap intel cpu have longer hours of operation than the gamer intel cpus. | Jan 28 10:09 |
| starstreak | after core2duo intel's fabs have been so mature processors have very little defects | Jan 28 10:09 |
| starstreak | meanwhile AMD is disabling cores and selling 3 core cpus | Jan 28 10:09 |
| starstreak | disabling defective cores ALL the time | Jan 28 10:10 |
| starstreak | those x3's AMD sold a few years ago were defective quad cores lol | Jan 28 10:10 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. There are still a lot of core2duo chips when they are cut open by dia started life as a quad core chip | Jan 28 10:10 |
| starstreak | very little defects on intels side though | Jan 28 10:11 |
| oiaohm | Intel has got very good at hiding the defects. | Jan 28 10:11 |
| starstreak | once they were making the chip that became the Q6600, they were all the same and clocked at speeds for different markets | Jan 28 10:11 |
| oiaohm | this is microcode for the cpu so cpu with particular defect bypass those areas. | Jan 28 10:11 |
| oiaohm | making models of chips with less cores as they still to-do and cut the defects chips leaving the working bits. | Jan 28 10:12 |
| oiaohm | and of course the classic clock them lower until the defect is hidden. | Jan 28 10:12 |
| starstreak | i guess pushing the boundaries of technology and working around the bugs in an intelligent way isn't a bad thing | Jan 28 10:12 |
| starstreak | gamers are essentially testing technology for business LOL | Jan 28 10:13 |
| oiaohm | So its not that intel does not make as many defective chips as AMD. Just intel is better at hidding them. | Jan 28 10:13 |
| starstreak | i still think intel has less microcode to fix bugs than amd | Jan 28 10:13 |
| starstreak | amd's model has just been set higher clocks and invent cooling to support it | Jan 28 10:14 |
| oiaohm | I would say no. Its nothing uncommon for intel master microcode stack to contain up to 9 different firmwares for the same model number chip and choising what one to use based on what burnt out efuses in the chip. | Jan 28 10:14 |
| starstreak | intels model has been to shrink to reduce power consumption to compete with mobile arm devices | Jan 28 10:14 |
| oiaohm | not firmware microcode. | Jan 28 10:15 |
| starstreak | do you like AMD better than Intel for some reason? | Jan 28 10:15 |
| starstreak | every time i listen to amd i get bit in the ass with low performance bullshit | Jan 28 10:15 |
| oiaohm | AMD does use microcode to hide defects but their design only allows 1 per chip type. Not the multi intel does. | Jan 28 10:15 |
| oiaohm | This is not me like AMD as such. | Jan 28 10:16 |
| oiaohm | I see intel microcode managment as impressive trick to get lots of usable chips out of unstable production. | Jan 28 10:17 |
| starstreak | i used to have an AMD A8 6600K, 3.9Ghz quad core | Jan 28 10:17 |
| starstreak | it couldnt even run fallout4 at 1080p with ultra graphics | Jan 28 10:17 |
| starstreak | same graphics card (1050ti) with an old i7 i got from my boss, works perfectly | Jan 28 10:18 |
| starstreak | a 3.9Ghz quad core should be able to handle any game because the 1050ti should be doing all the work | Jan 28 10:18 |
| oiaohm | That is not exactly a perfect valid test if you put fallout 4 on some models of intel xeon it has performance problems as well. | Jan 28 10:19 |
| starstreak | no its not a perfect valid test | Jan 28 10:20 |
| oiaohm | fallout 4 is tuned to particular instruction sets being present if they are missing it performs badly. | Jan 28 10:20 |
| starstreak | i agree | Jan 28 10:20 |
| starstreak | this intel i7 is also extreme edition with 12 logical processors | Jan 28 10:20 |
| starstreak | 6 core with hyperthreading | Jan 28 10:20 |
| starstreak | im comparing a $1200 processor against a $100 processor | Jan 28 10:20 |
| oiaohm | A xeon with 12 locical processors having performance problems. | Jan 28 10:20 |
| oiaohm | So that was a same to same in cores. | Jan 28 10:21 |
| starstreak | xeons aren't for games tho | Jan 28 10:21 |
| oiaohm | I would not say so. Xeons are recommend for particular games that are played in competition due to have ECC ram. | Jan 28 10:21 |
| oiaohm | So there are games that support broader instruction sets. | Jan 28 10:22 |
| starstreak | what games? | Jan 28 10:22 |
| starstreak | thats very paranoid lol, starcraft? | Jan 28 10:22 |
| oiaohm | Dota 2 and lot of the other esport games. | Jan 28 10:23 |
| starstreak | error correction reduces performance a bit, its usually needed on servers because errors mean data loss and that means money loss | Jan 28 10:23 |
| starstreak | league of legends i bet too | Jan 28 10:24 |
| oiaohm | People losing game for money due to not detect defective ram does not make them happy. | Jan 28 10:24 |
| oiaohm | i7 don't do ecc | Jan 28 10:24 |
| starstreak | hahahahahahahaha | Jan 28 10:24 |
| starstreak | i bet they are blaming their computers when they lose! | Jan 28 10:24 |
| starstreak | LOL | Jan 28 10:24 |
| starstreak | "i couldnt possibly lose, my fucking computer is broken thats it" | Jan 28 10:24 |
| oiaohm | This is why lot of competition gaming if your rig is not something support ecc they are not letting you play. | Jan 28 10:25 |
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| starstreak | i dont think thats necessary | Jan 28 10:25 |
| oiaohm | Yes a i3 on the right motherboard has ecc and is acceptable | Jan 28 10:25 |
| starstreak | a lot of weird rules are caused by people being paranoid over nothing | Jan 28 10:25 |
| oiaohm | This can make the person with the i7 very upset. | Jan 28 10:25 |
| oiaohm | Bad ram making a bad network packet might not crash your machine out on it own. | Jan 28 10:26 |
| starstreak | if i went to those competitions i would demand their network equiment be held to the same standards | Jan 28 10:26 |
| oiaohm | What they do. | Jan 28 10:27 |
| starstreak | cuz it would be a shame if they had all these ECC requirements but then everyone is hooked up to a netgear wifi router | Jan 28 10:27 |
| oiaohm | No wifi other than for no players at most of these competition it wired links. | Jan 28 10:27 |
| starstreak | yeah but a netgear wifi router has wired links too and you can plug switches into it | Jan 28 10:28 |
| oiaohm | Nothing excess is allowed in the game network. | Jan 28 10:28 |
| starstreak | what routers and switches are they using | Jan 28 10:28 |
| oiaohm | So a router with wifi possible would be excess. | Jan 28 10:28 |
| starstreak | cisco i hope | Jan 28 10:29 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: http://www.opencompute.org/wiki/Networking/SpecsAndDesigns Lot of competitions no. Cisco switches most don't have independant certification of internal security. The stuff from open compute and equal they are more likely to use. | Jan 28 10:31 |
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| starstreak | i would also hope they provide tested network cables that are certified not to fail | Jan 28 10:31 |
| oiaohm | Proper made network cables take a hell lot of abuse to break. | Jan 28 10:32 |
| oiaohm | They are more likely to have a issue from a machine with poor ram or a switch or router without independent certification of quality. | Jan 28 10:33 |
| oiaohm | Basically once you start playing for money things start getting serous. | Jan 28 10:34 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11187796/port-security-issue-causes-limited-connectivity-pcs Some of the cisco system fancy networking features in switches can come a living nightmare for a game competition. | Jan 28 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-supportforums.cisco.com | Port Security issue that causes limited connectivity for PCs | LAN, Switching and Routing | Cisco Support Community [ http://ur1.ca/qeiz2 ] | Jan 28 10:38 | |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the catch is a security feature switch like cisco likes making is not always a stable switch. Gaming competition want stable and secure. | Jan 28 10:42 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I never understood these "after" shots/frames | Jan 28 14:30 |
| schestowitz | and what they meant in relation to the original/source | Jan 28 14:31 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jan 28 14:35 |
| schestowitz | yolo | Jan 28 14:38 |
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| starstreak | hey schestowitz | Jan 28 14:49 |
| starstreak | LONG time | Jan 28 14:49 |
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| MinceR | 28 203838 < schestowitz> yolo | Jan 28 15:07 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I bought a baseball bat and some "law enforcement model" mace. | Jan 28 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | You do what you can. I understand that private citizens where you are can't possess mace? | Jan 28 16:26 |
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| DaemonFC | It doesn't kill anyone. It just incapacitates them. Pain, eyes swell shut, and it has a UV dye in it so the police know that they found the guy that attacked you if they catch him later. | Jan 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | I might buy a stun gun and have them send it to mom's house. | Jan 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | Those are illegal to have in Chicago, but oh well. | Jan 28 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather risk the small chance of a misdemeanor than to not have what I need. | Jan 28 16:28 |
| schestowitz | why a mace? | Jan 28 16:33 |
| schestowitz | can you carry it around any more legally than you do a knife (even kitchen knife)? | Jan 28 16:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Factorialpython: @schestowitz @Snowden @FBI @TheRegister great news then, tell the #USA I am their saviour, hung like a donkey, gonna give them ALL they want | Jan 28 17:05 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Mace is a brand of pepper spray. | Jan 28 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, this one has pepper spray and tear gas in it. | Jan 28 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | You just aim for the attacker's eyes and face and hold the safety and the trigger and they're in so much pain you can just run away. | Jan 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be staggering around for half an hour after that. | Jan 28 17:25 |
| starstreak | i guess thats better than shooting them | Jan 28 17:28 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: the track record of pepper spray and tear gas is not 100 percent perfect. There are recorded lethality. But it lower than a gun as long as person with the spray used on get medical attention. | Jan 28 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825498650168143873 | Jan 28 19:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5_17.01 for Slackware https://t.co/AjvxI12Dun | Jan 28 19:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Alien Pastures » Plasma 5_17.01 for Slackware | Jan 28 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825500922499432448 | Jan 28 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Guide: Installing and Running a GNU/Linux Environment on | Jan 28 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Any Android Device https://t.co/GlNqrQFuy7 | Jan 28 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Guide: Installing and Running a GNU/Linux Environment on Any Android Device | Jan 28 19:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825504748493164545 | Jan 28 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Jan 28 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Jan 28 19:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825507241944088576 | Jan 28 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/1/2017: New Plasma 5 for Slackware, Bodhi Linux | Jan 28 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.1.0 Released https://t.co/mmLBTDssc3 (techrights.org) | Jan 28 19:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/1/2017: New Plasma 5 for Slackware, Bodhi Linux 4.1.0 Released | Techrights | Jan 28 19:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Games https://t.co/Ke4KIvlHPS | Jan 28 20:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux Machines | Jan 28 20:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825513053990948865 | Jan 28 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Installing and Running a GNU/Linux Environment on Any | Jan 28 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Device and more howtos https://t.co/pey0tDrLep | Jan 28 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 28 20:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Installing and Running a GNU/Linux Environment on Any Android Device and more howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 28 20:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825513056142635008 | Jan 28 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/tMSPIvV5Lj | Jan 28 20:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 28 20:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825521105930641409 | Jan 28 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 17.04 Alpha 2 released for testers | Jan 28 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cE33HLpfpH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 28 20:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 17.04 Alpha 2 released for testers | Tux Machines | Jan 28 20:53 | |
| cubexyz | back in 2012 wired magazine ran an article on unfixable computers | Jan 28 21:26 |
| cubexyz | they said the statistics show that about 1/3 of computers break by the 4h year | Jan 28 21:27 |
| cubexyz | which leads to this: | Jan 28 21:28 |
| cubexyz | https://www.damninteresting.com/the-pit-of-life-and-death/ | Jan 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.damninteresting.com | The Pit of Life and Death • Damn Interesting | Jan 28 21:28 | |
| cubexyz | The Berkeley Pit | Jan 28 21:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, the ASUS UX32VD Zenbook got the highest repairability score 8/10 | Jan 28 21:52 |
| cubexyz | coreboot support is a real crapshoot though | Jan 28 21:54 |
| cubexyz | in #coreboot they are always talking about Lenovo X200 | Jan 28 21:55 |
| cubexyz | so I'll say get a used X200 or a chromebook | Jan 28 21:55 |
| cubexyz | there's nothing ideal though | Jan 28 21:56 |
| cubexyz | it could be that chromebox + external monitor is better | Jan 28 21:57 |
| cubexyz | no need to worry about taking the laptop apart to try to fix the monitor if it goes bad | Jan 28 21:58 |
| cubexyz | and if you got a small enough monitor it would be quasi-portable | Jan 28 21:58 |
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| cubexyz | if you want to feel stupid (ok, let's be nice and say unknowledgeable), then study firmware | Jan 22 00:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 22 00:44 |
| cubexyz | most of the time firmware is considered a 'trade secret' by the BIOS company | Jan 22 00:45 |
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| cubexyz | I'm going to have to get one of those memory cards soon | Jan 22 01:02 |
| cubexyz | already down to 5.8 G left on the 16 gig SSD | Jan 22 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/822954446116134913 | Jan 22 01:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/gPy6sODIrt | Jan 22 01:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 22 01:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 22 01:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 22 01:35 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/vgAtk7H.jpg | Jan 22 01:36 |
| cubexyz | meaning Trump I assume :) | Jan 22 01:38 |
| MinceR | obviously | Jan 22 01:38 |
| cubexyz | Trump does look weird | Jan 22 01:39 |
| MinceR | if only he only looked weird | Jan 22 01:39 |
| cubexyz | too much spray tanning... leading to an orange hue, he wears googles for eye protection, hence the whiteness around the eyes | Jan 22 01:43 |
| cubexyz | Oompa-loompa for president :) | Jan 22 01:46 |
| cubexyz | The Russians haven't perfected the skin tone of their androids. Hopefully one day they will. Looking forward to the Trump 2.0, with a CD player. | Jan 22 01:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 22 01:54 |
| cubexyz | https://archive.org/details/TrumpIntelligenceAllegations | Jan 22 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Trump Intelligence Allegations : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive | Jan 22 01:57 | |
| cubexyz | I hear Anonymous is going to release stuff about Trump | Jan 22 02:00 |
| cubexyz | maybe this is part of it | Jan 22 02:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 22 02:00 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 22 08:42 |
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| MinceR | http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Protesters-Face-Increasing-Criminalization-in-Trump-Era-20170121-0014.html | Jan 22 12:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telesurtv.net | Protesters Face Increasing Criminalization in Trump Era | News | teleSUR English [ http://ur1.ca/qd7a0 ] | Jan 22 12:50 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trump%27s%20Razor&defid=10914945 | Jan 22 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: Trump's Razor | Jan 22 13:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823152876264357888 | Jan 22 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | All You Need To Know About Swap Partition In Linux | Jan 22 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gjU6f0BsfO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 22 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | All You Need To Know About Swap Partition In Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 22 14:57 | |
| MinceR | except for all the things about hibernation/suspend-to-disk | Jan 22 15:56 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C16Qrc3XEAADsRy.jpg | Jan 22 16:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823303655587725313 | Jan 22 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapdragon 410E SBC offers long lifecycle support at $85 | Jan 22 22:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uWFmN9HhFD (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 22 22:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Snapdragon 410E SBC offers long lifecycle support at $85 | Jan 22 23:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823304207289696257 | Jan 22 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Netrunner Minor Update Release 17.01.2 | Jan 22 23:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Minor Update Release 17.01.2 | Netrunner | Jan 22 23:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @frankjoreyes favourited 'Netrunner Minor Update Release 17.01.2 https://t.co/9kHuH4UfbU' | Jan 22 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823307266308894720 | Jan 22 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | It’s ‘Best Linux Distro’ Time Again | Jan 22 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mUIBHeY7TI (fossforce.com) | Jan 22 23:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | It's 'Best Linux Distro' Time Again | FOSS Force | Jan 22 23:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823308396258619394 | Jan 22 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Appreciating how far Linux gaming has actually come in | Jan 22 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the past few years https://t.co/UQh3iPD59s | Jan 22 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 22 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 22 23:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appreciating how far Linux gaming has actually come in the past few years | GamingOnLinux | Jan 22 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823311923680710658 | Jan 22 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Netrunner Minor Update Release 17.01.2 | Jan 22 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner Minor Update Release 17.01.2 | Tux Machines | Jan 22 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823311925643616256 | Jan 22 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2017 Desktops, neon Goes Calamares, Spices Changes | Jan 22 23:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2017 Desktops, neon Goes Calamares, Spices Changes | Tux Machines | Jan 22 23:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823312393077977088 | Jan 22 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE neon Inaugurated with Calamares Installer | Jan 22 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GpdxSw8ecQ (jriddell.org) | Jan 22 23:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org | KDE neon Inaugurated with Calamares Installer | Jonathan Riddell's Diary | Jan 22 23:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823314287649288192 | Jan 22 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials | Jan 22 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OPQydXKQKp (betanews.com) | Jan 22 23:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials | Jan 22 23:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823317630975176704 | Jan 23 00:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon Has Stylish New Install Wizard | Jan 23 00:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tuzAFV0bfP (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Jan 23 00:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | KDE Neon Has Stylish New Install Wizard - OMG! Ubuntu! | Jan 23 00:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823320111905812480 | Jan 23 00:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials | Jan 23 00:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials | Tux Machines | Jan 23 00:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials https://t.co/wcbi3qGLdS https://t.co/ZIavmeuB91 | Jan 23 00:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823320114959294464 | Jan 23 00:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon Installer https://t.co/K93aj5v5M3 | Jan 23 00:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon Installer | Tux Machines | Jan 23 00:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks This helped inflame protesters who perceive #trump...' | Jan 23 00:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823323268929167360 | Jan 23 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Planning To Enable TRIM/Discard On Encrypted | Jan 23 00:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Disks https://t.co/z8Fy2aKBcy (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 23 00:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 26 Planning To Enable TRIM/Discard On Encrypted Disks - Phoronix | Jan 23 00:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @argumento_ favourited 'Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials https://t.co/wcbi3qGLdS https://t.co/ZIavmeuB91' | Jan 23 00:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @argumento_ retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical launches Ubuntu Tutorials https://t.co/wcbi3qGLdS https://t.co/ZIavmeuB91' | Jan 23 00:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The message sent out, in light of...' | Jan 23 00:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Remember that #obama war on whistleblowers/sources (and...' | Jan 23 00:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823327347554320384 | Jan 23 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.10-rc5 https://t.co/grayKqVcjp (lwn.net) | Jan 23 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Announces Fifth Linux 4.10 Kernel RC, Everything Looks Nominal - Updated | Jan 23 00:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.10-rc5 Released, Now Codenamed "Anniversary Edition" - Phoronix | Jan 23 00:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823327674223460352 | Jan 23 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New CloudLinux 7 and CloudLinux 6 Linux Kernel Security | Jan 23 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates Pushed Into Beta https://t.co/SUhNS2FsUW | Jan 23 00:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New CloudLinux 7 and CloudLinux 6 Linux Kernel Security Updates Pushed Into Beta | Jan 23 00:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823328108463923200 | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications 16.12.1 and Frameworks 5.30.0 by KDE | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available in Chakra https://t.co/C2nITjVkqH | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (chakralinux.org) | Jan 23 00:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chakralinux.org | Applications 16.12.1 and Frameworks 5.30.0 by KDE available in Chakra | Chakra | News | Jan 23 00:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823328171097395200 | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New CloudLinux 7 and CloudLinux 6 Linux Kernel Security | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates Pushed Into Beta https://t.co/3z1DlHhKBG | Jan 23 00:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New CloudLinux 7 and CloudLinux 6 Linux Kernel Security Updates Pushed Into Beta | Tux Machines | Jan 23 00:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New CloudLinux 7 and CloudLinux 6 Linux Kernel Security Updates Pushed Into Beta https://t.co/3z1DlHhKBG https://t.co/uLxniSQK9J | Jan 23 00:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823328178722598912 | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux to Enable TRIM for Better Performance of | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Encrypted SSD Disks https://t.co/3TkyFp98WJ | Jan 23 00:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 26 Linux to Enable TRIM for Better Performance of Encrypted SSD Disks | Tux Machines | Jan 23 00:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Fedora 26 Linux to Enable TRIM for Better Performance of Encrypted SSD Disks https://t.co/3TkyFp98WJ https://t.co/83TFy0XeIA | Jan 23 00:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823328181490847744 | Jan 23 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.10-rc5 https://t.co/Fd1BVmuE0P | Jan 23 00:35 |
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| cubexyz | ok, the web has hit a new low | Jan 23 00:51 |
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| cubexyz | this site has microsoft _and_ trump ads | Jan 23 00:51 |
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| cubexyz | oh, another bad thing Trump did... although it's history | Jan 23 00:57 |
| cubexyz | when the Bonwit Teller building was destroyed, a lot of the original art was supposed to be incorporated into the trump tower | Jan 23 00:58 |
| cubexyz | including Art Deco sculptures... | Jan 23 00:58 |
| cubexyz | Trump ordered them destroyed | Jan 23 00:58 |
| cubexyz | here's a pic of the original bulding: | Jan 23 01:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bonwit-teller-building-1956.jpg | Jan 23 01:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: read your words carefully. | Jan 23 01:07 |
| oiaohm | The original art was to be incorporated did not say on public display. | Jan 23 01:08 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it was supposed to be saved for a musuem I think | Jan 23 01:08 |
| oiaohm | That was not stated. | Jan 23 01:09 |
| oiaohm | So if it in a private room someone it passes the requirements. | Jan 23 01:10 |
| cubexyz | "To build his skyscraper, Trump first had to knock down the Bonwit Teller building, a luxurious limestone building erected in 1929. The face of the building featured two huge Art Deco friezes that the Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted to preserve. The museum asked Trump to save the sculptures and donate them, and the mogul agreed\u2014as long as the cost of doing so wasn't too high." | Jan 23 01:10 |
| cubexyz | instead the workers cut up the sculptures with acetylene torches | Jan 23 01:11 |
| cubexyz | here's a picture of the grill that was also supposed to be preserved: | Jan 23 01:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bonwit-teller-building-street-level.jpg | Jan 23 01:14 |
| oiaohm | The statues arguement can be made for their destruction as other cases when building have attempts to remove stuff like that people have died. | Jan 23 01:15 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways with those big lime stone reliefs making a mould and making a concrete copy on the ground is safer. | Jan 23 01:17 |
| oiaohm | that grill being lost there is no real defence for that. | Jan 23 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Please note to remove the reliefs in tacted its noted 10 extra days most that is due to risk of cracking and droping the things down to street level. | Jan 23 01:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the sad reality is when dissembling a building not all artwork can be saved due to public safety. But all artwork can be copied by one means or another these days. | Jan 23 01:22 |
| cubexyz | it seems wasteful knocking down a building that size after just 50 years | Jan 23 01:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't know on the Australian gold coast at lot of high risers are having to be knocked down and 40 years old due to be condemned due to structural failures caused by concrete cancer. | Jan 23 01:27 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so 50 years old the internal structure of the building can have failed. If that was the case attempting to move the sculptures would have been way more risky. | Jan 23 01:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we do need to start building in ways that are designed to last. | Jan 23 01:29 |
| cubexyz | right | Jan 23 01:29 |
| oiaohm | The biggest causes of concrete cancer is using normal steel that rusts and expands. | Jan 23 01:30 |
| cubexyz | Trump Tower is a concrete building also | Jan 23 01:32 |
| cubexyz | I assume it was better made than the original building | Jan 23 01:33 |
| oiaohm | https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-life-expectancy-of-concrete Its shocking to most people that for bridges and anything major structural at 50 years old they have to inspected and a judgement call made if it has any more life. | Jan 23 01:33 |
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| oiaohm | So even Trump Tower at 50 years old could be condemned. | Jan 23 01:34 |
| oiaohm | The reality is the concrete we use these days compared to Roman concrete is complete crap. | Jan 23 01:34 |
| cubexyz | aren't the roman aqueducts still in use? | Jan 23 01:36 |
| oiaohm | Roman Concrete is totally a different class is good for at least 700 years. | Jan 23 01:37 |
| cubexyz | wikipedia says it's more durable due to volcanic ash | Jan 23 01:39 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_concrete | Jan 23 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Roman concrete - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qdarf ] | Jan 23 01:39 | |
| cubexyz | "Usable examples of Roman concrete exposed to harsh marine environments have been found to be 2000 years old with little or no wear" | Jan 23 01:40 |
| cubexyz | gee, maybe we should start using that :) | Jan 23 01:41 |
| oiaohm | 700 years is roman concreted embedded with steel or the like that breaks down. | Jan 23 01:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this brings on the point of stupid. http://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/first-wood-highrise-building-portland If you can fire proof a wood highrise its good for 400 years. | Jan 23 01:42 |
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| cubexyz | trying to think of what the oldest 'skyscraper' would be | Jan 23 01:45 |
| cubexyz | I think 1880s | Jan 23 01:46 |
| cubexyz | flatiron building was built in 1903 | Jan 23 01:46 |
| cubexyz | so that's over 100 years | Jan 23 01:46 |
| cubexyz | not that old really | Jan 23 01:47 |
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| oiaohm | Particularly when you compare it to these http://gizmodo.com/5846501/how-japans-oldest-wooden-building-is-still-standing | Jan 23 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | How Japan's Oldest Wooden Building Survives Giant Earthquakes [ http://ur1.ca/qdasg ] | Jan 23 01:47 | |
| cubexyz | ha, that's impressive | Jan 23 01:48 |
| oiaohm | 607AD built in wood multi story and scary enough its is almost totally original. | Jan 23 01:48 |
| cubexyz | seems it's main vulnerability was lightning | Jan 23 01:50 |
| oiaohm | lightning and fire are the wood building major vulnerablity. London england great history wood bridge went to fire. It had like 9 story highrises in the middle of the river. | Jan 23 01:52 |
| cubexyz | wood doesn't seem to be the safest building material :) | Jan 23 01:52 |
| oiaohm | The historic london bridge only stood for 300 years. | Jan 23 01:53 |
| oiaohm | Even with the risk of fire and other things wooden building on average out last their concrete equals | Jan 23 01:54 |
| cubexyz | hence the nursey rhyme "London Bridge is falling down" | Jan 23 01:55 |
| cubexyz | "build it up with wood and clay" :) | Jan 23 01:55 |
| oiaohm | Exactly that is what the historic bridge was made of. | Jan 23 01:56 |
| oiaohm | The adverage hieght of the bridge was 6 stories. | Jan 23 01:57 |
| oiaohm | The insanity if you wanted to cross from one side of London to the other it was faster to take a boat than attempt to walk across history London bridge. Due to the volume of trade on the bridge activity by foot it could take you 8 hours to cross it. | Jan 23 01:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes row a boat across the river manually was faster than the bridge. | Jan 23 01:59 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.claybrick.org/news/500-years-average-brick-lifespan << building built from brick also have a long lifespan. | Jan 23 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.claybrick.org | 500 years is the average brick lifespan | Clay Brick Association of South Africa [ http://ur1.ca/qdau4 ] | Jan 23 02:01 | |
| oiaohm | So the story of the 3 little pigs basically lists the 3 best building materials in order of failure. | Jan 23 02:02 |
| oiaohm | The 4 best is roman concrete | Jan 23 02:02 |
| oiaohm | https://sourceable.net/why-is-straw-bale-not-used-more-in-building-structures/ << yes formal tests into straw building construction its rated for 100 years of life span. | Jan 23 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceable.net | Why Is Straw Bale Not Used More in Building Structures? [ http://ur1.ca/qdauq ] | Jan 23 02:06 | |
| oiaohm | Note at least 100 years of lifespan. | Jan 23 02:06 |
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| cubexyz | those nursey rhymes were more informative than we realized :) | Jan 23 02:18 |
| cubexyz | from the chromebook (with crouton): | Jan 23 02:37 |
| cubexyz | "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.10.18 x86_64)" | Jan 23 02:38 |
| cubexyz | although 14.04 is probably passé | Jan 23 02:39 |
| oiaohm | Lot was hidden in nursery rhymes when information was passed by word of mouth not by writing. | Jan 23 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Of course today we like to forget about it. | Jan 23 02:59 |
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| cubexyz | hmmm, some LCD dislays use white LEDs placed around the edges | Jan 23 05:03 |
| cubexyz | displays | Jan 23 05:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some of the reflective LCD don't have a choice. | Jan 23 05:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the price of being highly power effective at times is not been perfect at anything. | Jan 23 05:30 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I was reading about TV License again. | Jan 23 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that at least one person was so annoyed by the letters and phone calls that he sent THEM a bill for wasting his time and then sued them when they didn't pay. He got the ruling and the BBC had to pay the court costs too. | Jan 23 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | That sounds like something that I would do. | Jan 23 06:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Trump's budget blueprint calls for eliminating all public funding for PBS and NPR. Might as well at this point. | Jan 23 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's already so low that it's being used as a sockpuppet for the rich. | Jan 23 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | They pay and in exchange, PBS doesn't air documentaries they don't want aired. | Jan 23 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that PBS costs taxpayers something like $445 million a year. | Jan 23 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284337/TV-licence-evader-refused-pay-BBC-covered-facts-9-11.html | Jan 23 07:02 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tv_licensing_successfully_sued | Jan 23 07:03 |
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| DaemonFC | Peter Jones left an annotation (22 January 2015) | Jan 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Ah, the old "we only paid up because we lost the court paperwork" gambit. Total codswallop. An uncorroborable and made-up excuse, like so many we hear from the BBC and TV Licensing. | Jan 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | The truth is that it wasn't in TV Licensing's interests to defend the claim. If it had done, and lost, then the story would be carried in every national newspaper across the land. | Jan 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's exactly the same reason why TV Licensing never presents detection evidence in open court. It knows that it would be suicide to do that, because the technology would be discredited in a single stroke. | Jan 23 07:03 |
| oiaohm | interesting question if the USA loses PBS/NPR will there be a government run tv station left. | Jan 23 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2587588/7-000-homes-block-visits-TV-licence-enforcers-Growing-numbers-taking-advantage-legal-loophole-means-threaten-sue-collectors-tresspass.html | Jan 23 07:08 |
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| cube-chrome | defunding PBS wouldn't be good | Jan 23 09:00 |
| cube-chrome | defunding NPR ditto | Jan 23 09:00 |
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| cube-chrome | we have TVO in Canada, and I assume there are a few other public tv channels | Jan 23 09:03 |
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| DaemonFC | cube-chrome, Public TV here is largely unwatched. | Jan 23 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's mostly cooking shows and old episodes of Bob Ross. | Jan 23 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some cartoons for children. | Jan 23 09:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australian ABC what is the government channel is in the show merchandising game. | Jan 23 09:33 |
| oiaohm | So the Australian government is unlikely to shutdown the ABC as that will equal less income. | Jan 23 09:33 |
| schestowitz | [06:22] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I was reading about TV License again. | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | Oh, them | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | what a sham | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I can't have a large PC monitor | Jan 23 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | because all the large ones come with TV now | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | "smart TV" | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I last checked yesterday at PC World | Jan 23 09:34 |
| cube-chrome | surely there's one that's not a tv | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | biggest screen that's not a TV is 32 inches only | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | and overpriced | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | cube-chrome: yes, but not very large | Jan 23 09:35 |
| schestowitz | they just don't make them anymore | Jan 23 09:35 |
| schestowitz | you could be more lucky a decade ago | Jan 23 09:35 |
| schestowitz | maybe there's lack of demand for large PC monitors now | Jan 23 09:36 |
| cube-chrome | hmmm, I don't like having a monitor that's too big | Jan 23 09:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I would have to look again but i thought UK had a tax on TV declared devices on the item. | Jan 23 09:38 |
| cube-chrome | all my monitors are pretty old, so I don't know what's up these days | Jan 23 09:40 |
| cube-chrome | and I have to consider amiga :) | Jan 23 09:41 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: the biggest standard LCD monitor I know of is a 40 inch monitor. | Jan 23 09:42 |
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| cube-chrome | I wonder if you could remove the tv tuner part from the monitor | Jan 23 09:44 |
| cube-chrome | just use it as a monitor | Jan 23 09:44 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: the biggest standard monitor I know is 40 inch by Philips. 4K | Jan 23 09:44 |
| oiaohm | When I say 40 inch standard monitor there is no tv tuner or speakers in it. | Jan 23 09:44 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: Issue with using a tv as a monitor is when you get close most the pixels are too large. | Jan 23 09:46 |
| cube-chrome | yeah even 40 inch is too big for me | Jan 23 09:47 |
| cube-chrome | I got a bunch of 17" LCDs | Jan 23 09:47 |
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| oiaohm | cube-chrome: 4K monitor is also good way to stress video card. | Jan 23 10:32 |
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| cube-chrome | I don't think I have anything that supports 4k :) | Jan 23 11:07 |
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| cubexyz | I don't think that the LCD monitor is too hard to figure out | Jan 23 11:51 |
| cubexyz | there's the power supply, inverter, main board, and timer controller | Jan 23 11:52 |
| cubexyz | I even have the service manual for a few lcd's | Jan 23 11:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/823501332908752896 | Jan 23 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: UK still drowning in legacy tech in Blighty's £700m data centre @schestowitz https://t.co/0IXUWCylu1 | Jan 23 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | UK.gov still drowning in legacy tech because no one's getting in Blighty's £700m data centre Ark • The Register | Jan 23 12:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5p3xtr/the_wayland_situation_facts_about_x_vs_wayland/ | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh god... I hate that this still gets traffic >< | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | sigh | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Article author here. Taking questions. Be gentle. | Jan 23 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland : linux | Jan 23 12:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 23 12:10 |
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| cubexyz | ummm | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | X does not crash if you unplug the monitor | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | that's nonsense | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | don't know about wayland though | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | I don't see any real info in that whole mess | Jan 23 12:16 |
| cubexyz | don't see any facts about X vs Wayland either | Jan 23 12:17 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29#Differences_between_Wayland_and_X | Jan 23 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Wayland (display server protocol) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qdctf ] | Jan 23 12:19 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the X11 crash when unplug and plugging monitors is in fact possible. Due to the fact X11 makes one huge image covering all monitors connected. | Jan 23 12:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically its one of those mega bugs in the X11 protocol. | Jan 23 12:25 |
| cubexyz | never seen that | Jan 23 12:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: possible does not mean easy to trigger. Note the word monitors not monitor. This is like if you connect 4 monitors at the same time. | Jan 23 12:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: wayland has it fixed because each output screen is it own image. No magic having to glue them into 1 big image. | Jan 23 12:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ch03.html#sect-Wayland-Architecture-wayland_architecture Note the basic structure here. When you have X11 with a compositing windows manager both the X11 server and the compositor has to handle the huge single image all monitors have to be on and the resize. | Jan 23 12:34 |
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| cubexyz | why not just run a X server for each monitor? | Jan 23 12:38 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure you can do that | Jan 23 12:38 |
| cubexyz | I think X runs a process for each ummm, not sure what the correct terminology is here | Jan 23 12:41 |
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| cubexyz | each displayname I think it's called | Jan 23 12:44 |
| cubexyz | you must mean some multi-headed display thing... maybe that could crash X, I don't know | Jan 23 12:46 |
| cubexyz | I remember some video cards had this special cable with two vga connectors | Jan 23 12:47 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what my TV set does, it's basically a linux computer | Jan 23 12:48 |
| cubexyz | there's definitely two X processes when I run two different window managers at the same time | Jan 23 12:51 |
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| cubexyz | also I would assume if you had two video cards in one computer it wouldn't be one big piece of memory | Jan 23 12:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: issue modern day video cards give each monitor connected a individual memory block. | Jan 23 12:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11 protocol for client side says that a client should be able to treat all monitors as if they are part of a single image. | Jan 23 12:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes plugin in a multi head with 3 monitors to a port ask for instant nightmare. | Jan 23 12:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically all monitors outputs as one big image made logical idea when x11 was first written because that is how it worked inside the video cards of that time. | Jan 23 13:00 |
| cubexyz | ok, guess I need to read this: "Volume 0: X Protocol Reference Manual" | Jan 23 13:14 |
| cubexyz | ok, I think I've overloaded my brain enough for one day... | Jan 23 13:24 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically all we really need to know about X11 protocol is that it was designed for how hardware was designed over 30+ years ago. Of course that has changed. | Jan 23 13:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: consider that X11 first protocol had no idea how to hotplug monitors | Jan 23 13:26 |
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| MinceR | it would sure be nice if someone who actually understood X were to design a new display server, for a change | Jan 23 16:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unreal Engine 4.15 Preview 1 Brings AArch64 Linux Support - Phoronix | Jan 23 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/823584058378752000 | Jan 23 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @Ansip_EU "smashing free software" is missing. | Jan 23 20:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged, compact IoT gateway runs Linux on Apollo Lake | Jan 23 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rGfx2Vtnag (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 23 20:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged, compact IoT gateway runs Linux on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Jan 23 20:37 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 23 20:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu OTA-15 Will Let Ubuntu Touch Users Access HTTPS | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sites Again https://t.co/Xnk2AiV26L (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Jan 23 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu OTA-15 Will Let Ubuntu Touch Users Access HTTPS Sites Again - OMG! Ubuntu! | Jan 23 20:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed, Manjaro, and | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux on my new notebook | Jan 23 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed, Manjaro, and Debian GNU/Linux on my new notebook | Tux Machines | Jan 23 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Hands-On: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed, Manjaro, and Debian GNU/Linux on my new notebook https://t.co/71rtsR4YdI https://t.co/FpkIe58g80 | Jan 23 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823633429740666880 | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google seeks dev feedback for putting AI on Raspberry Pi | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4wpy5JnsUr (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 23 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google seeks dev feedback for putting AI on Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | Jan 23 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823633445062479872 | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i3 7100 Kabylake Linux Benchmarks | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ztPUdgASti (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 23 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nQaduvO54c | Jan 23 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i3 7100 Kabylake Linux Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Jan 23 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Intel Core i3 7100 Kabylake Linux Benchmarks https://t.co/ztPUdgASti https://t.co/nQaduvO54c | Jan 23 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823633447948169216 | Jan 23 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Firefox 51 Released With FLAC Audio Support, WebGL 2.0 By | Jan 23 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Default https://t.co/WPUi4lXaN8 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 23 20:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 51 Released With FLAC Audio Support, WebGL 2.0 By Default | Tux Machines | Jan 23 20:54 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh FLAC audio support | Jan 23 20:55 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | cant it play those already by default? I guess not then | Jan 23 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823633437349158912 | Jan 23 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why it's time to stop blaming open source for ransomware | Jan 23 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | attacks https://t.co/na3VFPaouy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 23 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why it's time to stop blaming open source for ransomware attacks | Tux Machines | Jan 23 21:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Why it's time to stop blaming open source for ransomware attacks https://t.co/na3VFPaouy https://t.co/uoUIDKyp1D | Jan 23 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823637366665519104 | Jan 23 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google seeks dev feedback for putting AI on Raspberry Pi | Jan 23 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vaj0Kvd4Rm (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 23 21:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Google seeks dev feedback for putting AI on Raspberry Pi | Jan 23 21:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/823642008552165377 | Jan 23 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @schestowitz a bug bounty day... What a great day to hack into a military networks without setting off alarms... | Jan 23 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | Tell that to McKinnon and @LauriLoveX (alleged) | Jan 23 21:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rbanffy/status/823643020889309184 | Jan 23 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rbanffy: @schestowitz @LauriLoveX military networks are no place for hobbyists. For that you need a government sponsor. | Jan 23 21:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823637551332388864 | Jan 23 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed, Manjaro, and | Jan 23 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux on my new notebook | Jan 23 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HYvu3U6LVk (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 23 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-On: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed, Manjaro, and Debian GNU/Linux on my new notebook | ZDNet | Jan 23 21:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823650538990338050 | Jan 23 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: BSD https://t.co/ZH1Cn4fv2H | Jan 23 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: BSD | Tux Machines | Jan 23 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823650541494411264 | Jan 23 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/jOsZrx5HZk | Jan 23 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 23 21:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Code for Pakistan and Linux Foundation Event | Jan 23 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Code for Pakistan and Linux Foundation Event | Tux Machines | Jan 23 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823650545021820928 | Jan 23 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/rmeZ4eTRax | Jan 23 21:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Jan 23 21:56 | |
| cubexyz | ok, chromeos + crouton just hit 4 days | Jan 23 22:22 |
| cubexyz | I made some adjustments to it | Jan 23 22:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823650547030855680 | Jan 23 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/ZirKZP5zrj | Jan 23 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 23 22:24 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, today's mission is to compile xrdb and have a look at exactly what it does | Jan 23 22:51 |
| cubexyz | it is an application of X11R7.3 | Jan 23 22:52 |
| cubexyz | at least it is in my particular case | Jan 23 22:52 |
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| cubexyz | has a blank INSTALL and blank README :-/ | Jan 23 22:53 |
| cubexyz | so really while X11R7.3 is the version of _everything_ here, each application has its own version number | Jan 23 23:06 |
| cubexyz | then everything seems to stop at X11R7.7 | Jan 23 23:10 |
| cubexyz | in 2012 | Jan 23 23:11 |
| cubexyz | so there is a X11R7.8 but it hasn't been released | Jan 23 23:13 |
| cubexyz | wikipedia page is out of date | Jan 23 23:15 |
| cubexyz | doesn't seem like the slack folks are going to bother with wayland for quite a while | Jan 23 23:23 |
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| cubexyz | ok, not a lot as changed X11-wise in the last few years | Jan 23 23:28 |
| cubexyz | there's a few distros using a prototype wayland | Jan 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | wayland is not going to be practical to run until they remove the systemd dependency from at least one implementation | Jan 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | correction: from at least one implementation that supports server-side decorations | Jan 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | if CSD is forced, i'm still better off with X | Jan 23 23:30 |
| cubexyz | huh... well that probably explains why there's no wayland for slack | Jan 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 23 23:34 |
| cubexyz | evidently I'm still in upstart-land with chromeos + ubuntu 14.04 (crouton) | Jan 23 23:45 |
| cubexyz | also I can report that all the old ioctl's I used in the past still work on that | Jan 23 23:51 |
| cubexyz | fd = open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR) etc etc | Jan 23 23:52 |
| cubexyz | termio, fcntl, ctype, etc | Jan 23 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823678050994946052 | Jan 23 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/PgTSyRJCI3 | Jan 23 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 23 23:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 23 23:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823680380058353667 | Jan 24 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Can Google's new watches save Android Wear? | Jan 24 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KJZcbQ78Na (www.greenbot.com) | Jan 24 00:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can Google's new watches save Android Wear? | Greenbot | Jan 24 00:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823682361510465536 | Jan 24 00:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IBM Gives Power Systems Rebates For Linux Workloads | Jan 24 00:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2losiTA2uS (www.itjungle.com) | Jan 24 00:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | IBM Gives Power Systems Rebates For Linux Workloads - IT Jungle | Jan 24 00:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823682793096052736 | Jan 24 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | F25-20170120 updated Lives Released | Jan 24 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1em3tVR4Rv (jbwillia.wordpress.com) | Jan 24 00:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbwillia.wordpress.com | F25-20170120 updated Lives Released | Jbwillia's Weblog | Jan 24 00:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823683672641519616 | Jan 24 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "the master branch of GTK+ has seen 106 commits, with | Jan 24 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7340 lines added and 12138 lines removed." | Jan 24 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gpnnCFI1NW (blog.gtk.org) | Jan 24 00:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.gtk.org | This week in GTK+ – 32 – GTK+ Development Blog | Jan 24 00:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823684385635385346 | Jan 24 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Q&A with Arpit Joshipura, Head of Networking for The | Jan 24 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation https://t.co/gtIY2ql9eq | Jan 24 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/FLvlcPxl25 | Jan 24 00:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q&A with Arpit Joshipura, Head of Networking for The Linux Foundation | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Q&A with Arpit Joshipura, Head of Networking for The Linux Foundation https://t.co/gtIY2ql9eq https://t.co/FLvlcPxl25 | Jan 24 00:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823684380925120512 | Jan 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/EXvhhcWrue | Jan 24 00:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 24 00:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:16 | |
| cubexyz | I consider chromebook + crouton to be an experiment | Jan 24 00:28 |
| cubexyz | going to stick with it for now | Jan 24 00:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 24 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823685879210373122 | Jan 24 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s LG-made Android Wear 2.0 watches possibly | Jan 24 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | revealed in low-res photo https://t.co/5tEe6F0Ipp | Jan 24 00:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theverge.com) | Jan 24 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google’s LG-made Android Wear 2.0 watches possibly revealed in low-res photo - The Verge | Jan 24 00:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823692680974635008 | Jan 24 00:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Openwashing and EEE https://t.co/of73SSoOcq | Jan 24 00:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing and EEE | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823692682396471296 | Jan 24 00:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/K5RRpRTfZp | Jan 24 00:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823692684132921348 | Jan 24 00:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/xEDJ42sYbY | Jan 24 00:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 24 00:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823692685647020032 | Jan 24 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to Install Ubuntu Software, Ubuntu Touch Update | Jan 24 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/m0UzdSWA49 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 24 00:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Ubuntu Software, Ubuntu Touch Update | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823692687408709632 | Jan 24 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME and GTK News https://t.co/heMIc63UDt | Jan 24 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 24 00:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jan 24 00:44 | |
| cubexyz | Mincer, I have a feeling this site is hungarian | Jan 24 01:01 |
| cubexyz | https://elektrotanya.com/ | Jan 24 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ElektroTanya | Service manuals and repair tips for electronics experts | Jan 24 01:01 | |
| cubexyz | can you see how to register? | Jan 24 01:01 |
| cubexyz | "My TV had old roach exoskeletons and roach feces" | Jan 24 01:19 |
| cubexyz | ok, seems I have to pass a test to get in | Jan 24 01:20 |
| cubexyz | yay, passed :) | Jan 24 01:26 |
| cubexyz | ok, electronics knowledge is just OK, not great | Jan 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | hopefully the hungarians don't think I'm too dumb | Jan 24 01:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, it is | Jan 24 01:34 |
| MinceR | dunno about whether they think you're dumb or not | Jan 24 01:34 |
| MinceR | doesn't really matter what they believe | Jan 24 01:35 |
| cubexyz | well, maybe I'll learn a little hungarian | Jan 24 01:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 24 01:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/823692688788623360 | Jan 24 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/kXj9bfRuO9 | Jan 24 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 24 01:46 | |
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| cubexyz | I'm finding bits and pieces of information, but not the exact service manual I'm looking for | Jan 24 01:51 |
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| cubexyz | a few years ago I know some of the web sites with service manuals were shut down | Jan 24 01:55 |
| cubexyz | it is really abuse of copyright law | Jan 24 01:56 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/czHvs | Jan 24 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Widely used WebEx plugin for Chrome will execute attack code—patch now! | Ars Technica | Jan 24 01:57 | |
| MinceR | fiasco systems does it again | Jan 24 01:57 |
| cubexyz | service manual hardly counts as a creative work | Jan 24 01:58 |
| cubexyz | Dell, HP and surpise! Lenovo all let you download service manuals for free | Jan 24 02:01 |
| MinceR | even fiasco's "fix" sucks | Jan 24 02:01 |
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| cubexyz | http://amultiverse.com/comic/2016/12/14/good-grief/ | Jan 24 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amultiverse.com | Scenes From A Multiverse » Good Grief | Jan 24 03:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trump declared his inauguration a national holiday. | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like something out of North Korea..... | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | "National Day of Patriotic Devotion" | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Can you believe this crap? Pretty soon, Dear Leader will come out and announce that the only approved hairstyle is the Godawful Combover. | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've always heard that when you run over an animal you're supposed to call the police and ask them to remove the carcass from the road. | Jan 24 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Trump put it on his head. | Jan 24 06:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Padoka or Oibaf PPA for Ubuntu Gaming? Tell Us Which One | Jan 24 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Virtual Programming are porting Arma: Cold War Assault and Frog Climbers to Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 24 16:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New SolydXK ISOs – 201701 https://t.co/iZempM6WxD | Jan 24 17:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/01/24/4 | Jan 24 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | oss-security - Headsup: systemd v228 local root exploit (CVE-2016-10156) | Jan 24 18:19 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: seen it in a few mailing lists | Jan 24 18:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe it's a feature, but not for us | Jan 24 18:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 24 18:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Do you need new features for your Samsung Z1 ? Upgrade to | Jan 24 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen 2.4 now! https://t.co/hi2zk2GTMN | Jan 24 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Do you need new features for your Samsung Z1 ? Upgrade to Tizen 2.4 now! - Tizen Experts | Jan 24 18:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/24/boring_vim_beats_exciting_browsers/ | Jan 24 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Oh, the things Vim could teach Silicon Valley's code slingers • The Register | Jan 24 18:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Next Tizen smartphone could be Samsung SM-Z250F running | Jan 24 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen 3.0 ? https://t.co/u7s89Nr1IL | Jan 24 18:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Next Tizen smartphone could be Samsung SM-Z250F running Tizen 3.0 ? - Tizen Experts | Jan 24 18:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Oh, the things Vim could teach Silicon Valley's code | Jan 24 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | slingers https://t.co/IQOMLSrJFd (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 24 19:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/bTl8RqRUbb | Jan 24 19:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen on More Phones https://t.co/7wIb6J0Gbn | Jan 24 19:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen on More Phones | Tux Machines | Jan 24 19:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks To date, I have cited this about...' | Jan 24 19:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #clinton used her media contacts to put...' | Jan 24 19:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks There was #clinton fear of various...' | Jan 24 19:40 | |
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| One | The Dutch court ruling against SUEPO was expected. | Jan 24 19:44 |
| One | There is no half immunity for diplomats. If a diplomat commits a crime he is withdrawn from his post but not tried and sentenced. | Jan 24 19:44 |
| One | They can sue the Dutch government on the matters in which the Dutch represeantative has voted against SUEPO. | Jan 24 19:45 |
| One | At least in the last votes he was against Battistelli. | Jan 24 19:46 |
| One | SUEPO should sue in those countries which constatnly voted for Battistelli´s proposals but they (in particular the ones that lost their jobs) regarded this as counterproductive. | Jan 24 19:47 |
| One | That was a mistake. | Jan 24 19:47 |
| One | It seems that Battistelli has won so far and there´s not much the staff can do. If people don´t want to strike they will just have to put up with whatever crosses little Erdogan´s mind. | Jan 24 19:49 |
| One | What happened in | Jan 24 19:50 |
| One | What happened at the EPO is a typical sign of the times, of the corruption that permeates international organisations and the complicity of the governments in perpetrating abuses against the staff. | Jan 24 19:51 |
| One | It only strengthens people´s distrust of European elites. | Jan 24 19:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/g7ul3nCwQ4 | Jan 24 20:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android | Jan 24 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | handset gets even better https://t.co/aliBLWu7rt | Jan 24 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android handset gets even better | Tux Machines | Jan 24 20:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The best open source software 2017 | Jan 24 20:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping | Jan 24 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping i686 Support Soon | Techrights | Jan 24 20:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | BlankOn Linux explained https://t.co/wcskUYn6s3 | Jan 24 21:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.0 is now released https://t.co/xh28XvUhfT | Jan 24 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine team is proud to announce that the stable release Wine 2.0 | Jan 24 21:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.0 is now officially available | GamingOnLinux | Jan 24 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.0 Makes Its Debut - Phoronix | Jan 24 21:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | LinuxCon Europe on 100G Networking | Jan 24 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS in the European Union https://t.co/XRAEifKZCS | Jan 24 21:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @LiveEUDebate retweeted @tuxmachines: 'FOSS in the European Union https://t.co/XRAEifKZCS' | Jan 24 21:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Resin.IO puts Linux and containers to work for IoT | Jan 24 22:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Resin.IO puts Linux and containers to work for IoT | Network World | Jan 24 22:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google releases final Android Wear 2.0 preview before | Jan 24 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | launch next month https://t.co/OIvMFbL6Jy | Jan 24 22:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google releases final Android Wear 2.0 preview before launch next month - The Verge | Jan 24 22:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Vertu's latest luxury Android phone is built for | Jan 24 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jetsetters https://t.co/40wPRKXlRF (www.engadget.com) | Jan 24 22:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Vertu's latest luxury Android phone is built for jetsetters | Jan 24 22:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo tunes N23 Yoga Chromebook for Android apps with | Jan 24 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ARM processor https://t.co/7Sfj6UaYeu (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 24 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | also has CrossOver/Wine for Windows binaries | Jan 24 22:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lenovo tunes N23 Yoga Chromebook for Android apps with ARM processor | PCWorld | Jan 24 22:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Containers: Resin.IO and Platform9 | Jan 24 22:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers: Resin.IO and Platform9 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/8633071 | Jan 24 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Claque": how Trump revived the ancient practice of paid applauders http://boingboing.net/2017/01/24/claque-how-trump-revived.html #trump #alternativeFacts #astroturfing #payToPlay | Jan 24 22:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> boingboing.net | "Claque": how Trump revived the ancient practice of paid applauders / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/qdk20 ] | Jan 24 22:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824025873112244224 | Jan 24 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump i dont know if retweets are as valuable as getting a meeting with him and proving your case. | Jan 24 22:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824025873112244224 | Jan 24 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Not as much as on the sunbed | Jan 24 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SlowWaterMvmnt/status/824027138412212225 | Jan 24 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SlowWaterMvmnt: @darkcola2 @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump I dunno. He seems to spend more time on twitter than in meetings. | Jan 24 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824027362689949697 | Jan 24 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @SlowWaterMvmnt @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump lol- no he doesnt, & if u use this as an argument- then u dont learn the person. | Jan 24 22:56 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/america-you-look-like-an-arab-country-right-now-214678 | Jan 24 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-America, You Look Like an Arab Country Right Now - POLITICO Magazine | Jan 24 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824028073142222848 | Jan 24 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @schestowitz @SlowWaterMvmnt @GreenPartyUS @realDonaldTrump lol... if we are going to go for cheap jokes Ill pull out the joke book from 90s | Jan 24 22:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/walden_mathews/status/824030448288485377 | Jan 24 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@walden_mathews: @OdinOfAsgard078 @schestowitz @DrJillStein Give specifics if you think you do. So far just empty rhetoric. | Jan 24 23:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers | Jan 24 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Crash Relays, Clients https://t.co/6wYUMelIB1 | Jan 24 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/Evl7epxIPM | Jan 24 23:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers Crash Relays, Clients | Tux Machines | Jan 24 23:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers Crash Relays, Clients https://t.co/6wYUMelIB1 https://t.co/Evl7epxIPM | Jan 24 23:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo Backup and Recovery Tool | Tux Machines | Jan 24 23:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo Backup and Recovery Tool https://t.co/nJINU3KiX2 https://t.co/gnlp4x9bhb | Jan 24 23:58 | |
| MinceR | http://www.pmslweb.com/the-blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/19-Trump-grabbing-the-pussy-of-the-statue-of-theliberty-humor.jpg | Jan 25 00:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824059659803852800 | Jan 25 01:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping | Jan 25 01:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz i686 Support Soon https://t.co/VSdJD6HQFT | Jan 25 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping i686 Support Soon | Techrights | Jan 25 01:04 | |
| cubexyz | could be worse | Jan 25 01:10 |
| cubexyz | just imagine Bill Gates as president | Jan 25 01:10 |
| cubexyz | not to say that both aren't horrible | Jan 25 01:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure people are tired of losing all their jobs, hence the votes for trump | Jan 25 01:14 |
| cubexyz | http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/01/where-did-all-the-workers-go-60-years-of-economic-change-in-1-graph/252018/ | Jan 25 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Where Did All the Workers Go? 60 Years of Economic Change in 1 Graph - The Atlantic | Jan 25 01:16 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Bill Gates as USA president might not be ideal but at least he has built a company from nothing being a good accountant. The USA need a good accountant. | Jan 25 01:38 |
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| cubexyz | a sociopath... | Jan 25 01:41 |
| cubexyz | or to put it a different way... | Jan 25 01:42 |
| cubexyz | A ruthless schemer | Jan 25 01:42 |
| cubexyz | but all monopolies fall after a while | Jan 25 01:44 |
| MinceR | no, the USA needs someone who will work for it and its citizens, not against them | Jan 25 01:44 |
| cubexyz | the citizens, yes | Jan 25 01:45 |
| cubexyz | not sociopathic billionaires | Jan 25 01:45 |
| cubexyz | he's one of my favourite examples: | Jan 25 01:48 |
| cubexyz | " | Jan 25 01:48 |
| cubexyz | March of 1969, Allen went over to the University of Washington and began using a Xerox computer by pretending he was a graduate student. Gates soon followed and they used the UofW computer until an intolerant professor caught them at it and they were barred." | Jan 25 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824070972147953664 | Jan 25 01:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/G2mPEQPIjT | Jan 25 01:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 25 01:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 25 01:50 | |
| cubexyz | Kildall invented BIOS, not Gates | Jan 25 01:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/G2mPEQPIjT' | Jan 25 01:52 | |
| cubexyz | buried deep in the CP/M BIOS is some interesting stuff | Jan 25 01:52 |
| cubexyz | JMP PUNCH | Jan 25 01:53 |
| cubexyz | the paper tape punchout output routine | Jan 25 01:53 |
| cubexyz | s/punchout/punch/ | Jan 25 01:54 |
| cubexyz | new terminlogy: malanthropy | Jan 25 02:03 |
| cubexyz | proprietary software... tough to avoid it | Jan 25 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824072317441425408 | Jan 25 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/T29D6VSmiA | Jan 25 02:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 25 02:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 25 02:06 | |
| cubexyz | what do I always hear? | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | "fix the black box" | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | "work your magic" | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | it's this unknowable mysterious thing that you can't fix | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | here's another one: | Jan 25 02:08 |
| cubexyz | "Any modern Intel computer needs the Intel ME" <-- a harmful opaque binary | Jan 25 02:09 |
| cubexyz | how to avoid? | Jan 25 02:09 |
| cubexyz | well chromebooks... or "ancient" hardware | Jan 25 02:10 |
| cubexyz | ok one more... | Jan 25 02:11 |
| cubexyz | "make Hollywood trust your computer, not you" | Jan 25 02:11 |
| MinceR | how much do chromebooks do to avoid intel ME? | Jan 25 02:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah I guess the big question is which intel processors don't have it or... can you dd it out and still boot | Jan 25 02:53 |
| MinceR | also, what happens about intel boot guard in them? | Jan 25 03:02 |
| MinceR | is it used to lock in the coreboot version they come with, or not at all? | Jan 25 03:02 |
| cubexyz | the boot guard is no problem | Jan 25 03:02 |
| cubexyz | I can boot with custom firmware | Jan 25 03:02 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 25 03:03 |
| cubexyz | running sshd on chromebook was a pain to get working | Jan 25 03:07 |
| cubexyz | I think the chromebooks used in classrooms have remote administration | Jan 25 03:18 |
| cubexyz | so I figure those models of chromebooks have Intel ME | Jan 25 03:18 |
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| cubexyz | I know I don't have VPro | Jan 25 03:27 |
| MinceR | does that remote administration imply having access while the chromebook is supposed to be off and the like? | Jan 25 03:29 |
| cubexyz | yeah that's tricky | Jan 25 03:30 |
| cubexyz | how would you know if it was doing stuff at the ME level? | Jan 25 03:30 |
| cubexyz | it has a battery :) | Jan 25 03:30 |
| MinceR | is the battery removable? | Jan 25 03:31 |
| MinceR | at any rate, it's supposed to be a selling point in that context | Jan 25 03:31 |
| MinceR | so they'd probably advertise it | Jan 25 03:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, you can replace the battery, so it's removeable | Jan 25 03:32 |
| cubexyz | it's Baytrail-M | Jan 25 03:35 |
| cubexyz | oh well, I asked in coreboot... they should know if Intel ME is in everything intel or not | Jan 25 03:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 25 03:44 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what Intel Wireless Display is | Jan 25 03:58 |
| cubexyz | to make it even more confusing there's two different Bay Trail CPUs | Jan 25 03:59 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much DRM is in it | Jan 25 03:59 |
| MinceR | and how vulnerable it is | Jan 25 03:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and cubexyz http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/architecture-and-technology/widi-pro-widi-discontinued-notice.html WiDi was what was officially refereed to as Intel Wireless Display and that link says replaced by Miracast. Unless there is some Intel Wireless Display thing I don't know about. | Jan 25 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.intel.com.au | Intel® WiDi and Intel® Pro WiDi Applications Discontinued Notice | Jan 25 04:05 | |
| cubexyz | discontinued when? | Jan 25 04:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiDi 2015 | Jan 25 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | WiDi - Wikipedia | Jan 25 04:09 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, see if you can locate the datasheets for N2840 | Jan 25 04:10 |
| cubexyz | wow, I didn't even know WiDi existed | Jan 25 04:12 |
| oiaohm | http://ark.intel.com/products/82103/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2840-1M-Cache-up-to-2_58-GHz Yes the N2840 is a 2014 chip before Intel gave up on WiDi | Jan 25 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ark.intel.com | Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840 (1M Cache, up to 2.58 GHz) Specifications [ http://ur1.ca/qdlha ] | Jan 25 04:13 | |
| oiaohm | Intel stoped everything about WiDi in 2015 this including certifying hardware to support the protocol | Jan 25 04:14 |
| cubexyz | embedded options available: No | Jan 25 04:15 |
| cubexyz | that actually sounds good | Jan 25 04:15 |
| cubexyz | oh boy, this data sheet pdf is over a thousand pages | Jan 25 04:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember intel made WiDi with Microsoft so source code to-do it was not released to anyone. | Jan 25 04:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, there's no mention of "intel me" in the datasheet pdf | Jan 25 04:19 |
| cubexyz | one can 'chromecast' to an hdmi tv | Jan 25 04:20 |
| oiaohm | Me is part of the chipset not the cpu | Jan 25 04:20 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast Miracast and chromecast are the two remaining and Linux can to both to a point. | Jan 25 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - albfan/miraclecast: Connect external monitors to your system via Wifi-Display specification also known as Miracast | Jan 25 04:20 | |
| cubexyz | except I don't have the chromecast thing | Jan 25 04:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: rasbery pi can be made do both. | Jan 25 04:21 |
| cubexyz | neat | Jan 25 04:23 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: note no HDCP so no protected content with Miracast or chromecast done on a pi. | Jan 25 04:33 |
| cubexyz | so one can wirelessly mirror your chromebook's display to the tv | Jan 25 04:38 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: other than the fact the chromebook will want to look for HDCP so you cannot use a a device without protection. | Jan 25 04:50 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 25 07:57 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: Hi | Jan 25 07:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, hi hows you | Jan 25 07:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what you up to these days? | Jan 25 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Nothing much at the moment bare hating summer. | Jan 25 08:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | Jan 25 08:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah I am not liking winter much | Jan 25 08:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but nearly time to go to big geeky open source linux etc event | Jan 25 08:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in another country to since winter | Jan 25 08:05 |
| schestowitz | hi guys | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | So Shiva Ayyadurai | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | is threatening to sue JoinDiaspora | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | and demanding takedown | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | seems like he did the same to Twitter | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll do wordpress too | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | I want the media to know about this censorship | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | I informed the EFF | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | but am looking for more media contacts that may be interested | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | First Shiva Ayyadurai sued Gawker (news), for saying the truth about E-mail | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Then sued TechDirt (blog) | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Now threatens SOCIAL MEDIA sites | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Which I think is a BIG story | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | just not sure who would cover it | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | ideas...? | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | >> First Shiva Ayyadurai sued Gawker (news), for saying the truth about E-mail | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Then sued TechDirt (blog) | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Now threatens SOCIAL MEDIA sites | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > Divide and conquer. If he takes them on one at a time and none band | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > together and crush him, he will win if only one site at a time. | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > He's such a charlatan I'm surprised he's not at M$ or hanging out with | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > Gates. | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm already on contact with Mike Masnick regarding this threat. Looking for media contacts that may be interested. Told Doctorow and EFF. Anyone else? | Jan 25 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-01/ | Jan 25 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 51 — Mozilla | Jan 25 08:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Tons of problems with WebExtensions. | Jan 25 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | They really didn't need to come up with this thing. Firefox has always had an add-ons platform. | Jan 25 08:26 |
| schestowitz | heh | Jan 25 08:34 |
| schestowitz | who didn't see THAT coming? | Jan 25 08:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Trump's talking about invading Chicago. | Jan 25 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's already bad enough that Donald Trump is the president at all, but now he wants the federal government to take over Chicago and turn it into a military dictatorship with soldiers, curfews, checkpoints.... | Jan 25 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | Totally illegal. | Jan 25 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, oh? | Jan 25 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | SebthreeBQM10HD, Yeah, he said that if the Chicago Police can't get the crime down he'll "send in the feds". | Jan 25 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | He has no legal authority to do anything unless the state asks for his assistance. | Jan 25 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | Telling federal soldiers to invade and occupy a state will cause a constitutional crisis. | Jan 25 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | There are only two legal ways for the military to do civilian law enforcement. 1. The state governor can call up the state's National Guard units and order them to do that, subject to the laws of that state. 2. The state legislature and the governor (or just the governor if the emergency has prevented the legislature from coming into session) can ask the president to send in federal soldiers. | Jan 25 08:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF0322&version=latest&session=90&session_number=0&session_year=2017 | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > Minnesota proposing authorizing governmental units to sue to recover for | Jan 25 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.revisor.mn.gov | HF 322 as introduced - 90th Legislature (2017 - 2018) | Jan 25 08:58 | |
| schestowitz | > the public safety response costs related to unlawful assemblies {sic} | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > and public nuisances {sic} | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for letting me know. Right now that matter is nothing I plan to blog about because some other stuff (especially Qualcomm, which is overcharging many mobile device makers, mostly Android companies, for wireless standard-essential patents) in the weeks and months ahead. If someone actually gets sued, please let me know. Take-down notices are not that spectacular. | Jan 25 08:59 |
| schestowitz | I think the importance is this is who's behind the takedowns and what goes on in parallel. | Jan 25 08:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824192115534139392 | Jan 25 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BRIEF-Red Hat names Eric Shander as company's acting CFO | Jan 25 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fRoZ9qpd4J (www.reuters.com) | Jan 25 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 25 09:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BRIEF-Red Hat names Eric Shander as company's acting CFO | Reuters | Jan 25 09:51 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I think Trump is the kind of guy who would ignore a court ruling and try to do anything he wanted to. | Jan 25 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | The courts have no way of enforcing their orders. If Trump wants to, he can easily create a constitutional crisis. | Jan 25 09:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Windows API on top of the Unix/Linux operating system | Jan 25 10:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Build Also Out https://t.co/cB4nvROnhV | Jan 25 11:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | SolydXK Linux OS Gets First ISO Respins for 2017, Raspberry Pi Build Also Out | Jan 25 11:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | SolydXK Linux OS Gets First ISO Respins for 2017, | Jan 25 11:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raspberry Pi Build Also Out https://t.co/kQSBCjSL0s | Jan 25 11:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SolydXK Linux OS Gets First ISO Respins for 2017, Raspberry Pi Build Also Out | Tux Machines | Jan 25 11:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824221928449658880 | Jan 25 11:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 2.10 Amnesic Live System Adds OnionShare Tool for | Jan 25 11:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 2.10 Amnesic Live System Adds OnionShare Tool for Anonymous File Sharing | Tux Machines | Jan 25 11:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "With the seemingly great obsession with Manga and Anime | Jan 25 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | there should be a Linux distribution dedicated to it" | Jan 25 11:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxforum.com | Mangaka OS (32-bit) | Linux Forum | Jan 25 11:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Make Your Very Own Customized Linux Distro From Your | Jan 25 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Current Installation | Jan 25 11:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop To Begin Decoupling From GNOME, Will Use | Jan 25 11:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 2.10 Amnesic Live System Adds OnionShare Tool for | Jan 25 11:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tails 2.10 Amnesic Live System Adds OnionShare Tool for Anonymous File Sharing | Jan 25 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824225053210529792 | Jan 25 12:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BU and Red Hat Forge $5 Million Partnership | Jan 25 12:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bu.edu | BU and Red Hat Forge $5 Million Partnership | BU Today | Boston University | Jan 25 12:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Brisk Menu Gets Basic Keyword Filtering in v0.3.0, | Jan 25 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enables Internationalization https://t.co/qZahyoHO9z | Jan 25 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Brisk Menu Gets Basic Keyword Filtering in v0.3.0, Enables Internationalization | Jan 25 12:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wireshark 2.2.4 Open-Source Network Protocol Analyzer | Jan 25 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released with Bug Fixes https://t.co/XfpCzFbUaT | Jan 25 12:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824227822415835136 | Jan 25 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NetworkManager 1.6 to Support PKCS#11 Tokens with 802.1x | Jan 25 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Authentication, More https://t.co/9TegO6UmvX | Jan 25 12:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google tests Android Instant Apps streamed on-demand to | Jan 25 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobes https://t.co/j4e5GilpIO (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 25 12:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora Cloud Base Image has a new home! | Jan 25 12:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Cloud Base Image has a new home! - Fedora Community Blog | Jan 25 12:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Budgie Desktop To Begin Decoupling From GNOME, Will Use | Jan 25 12:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Official Arch Linux ISO Image to Drop 32-bit (i686) | Jan 25 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support Starting March 2017 https://t.co/xGDUjBQBr1 | Jan 25 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Official Arch Linux ISO Image to Drop 32-bit (i686) Support Starting March 2017 | Tux Machines | Jan 25 12:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla Firefox 51 Is the First Web Browser to Support | Jan 25 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the New WebGL 2 Standard https://t.co/DMg583qaHl | Jan 25 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 51 Is the First Web Browser to Support the New WebGL 2 Standard | Tux Machines | Jan 25 12:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | BU and Red Hat Forge $5 Million Partnership | Jan 25 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BU and Red Hat Forge $5 Million Partnership | Tux Machines | Jan 25 12:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/GtYQv1RihY | Jan 25 12:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/70VFep9Ent | Jan 25 12:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @deandreaca https://twitter.com/deandreaca/status/824231122657832960 | Jan 25 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Linux and Open Source Pros Daily! | Jan 25 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mJwxZaf79s (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines | Jan 25 12:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @alexgrijalva02 @harryfortbosque #linux | Jan 25 12:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Phoronix on Graphics https://t.co/v5W25e4OuO | Jan 25 12:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's New CFO and New Home for Fedora Cloud Base | Jan 25 12:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/zBMKIj6Wi2 | Jan 25 12:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Container Standards and WebRTC-like Standards for the | Jan 25 13:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Cutelyst 1.3.0 released https://t.co/07d47vMKRM | Jan 25 13:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KaOS-2017.01 — a review https://t.co/r3Z6H4vLDU | Jan 25 13:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824247350084468736 | Jan 25 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Avorion, a procedural co-op space sandbox is now on Linux | Jan 25 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and it looks awesome https://t.co/HBTiXRlbGJ | Jan 25 13:28 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo Backup...' | Jan 25 13:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Avorion, a procedural co-op space sandbox is now on Linux and it looks awesome | GamingOnLinux | Jan 25 13:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 2.10 Amnesic Live System Adds OnionShare Tool...' | Jan 25 13:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Official Arch Linux ISO Image to Drop 32-bit...' | Jan 25 13:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824248517250187265 | Jan 25 13:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 3.0 To Be The Next Major Stable Release, More | Jan 25 13:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Version Bumping Ahead https://t.co/BQKdUFMtK9 | Jan 25 13:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Distro, systemd Exploit, KDE neon Scare | Jan 25 13:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Networking with Connect2SSH https://t.co/DWiedRZZ4o | Jan 25 13:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "With the Budgie website now up and running, let us turn | Jan 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | our focus to the development of Budgie 11 itself." | Jan 25 14:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 3.0 Plans https://t.co/e3S7hUvtBN | Jan 25 14:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Remarkable is a Remarkable Markdown Editor | Jan 25 14:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com | Remarkable is a Remarkable Markdown Editor - My Linux Rig | Jan 25 14:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/824232807794929665 | Jan 25 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | believe politicians the first time | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | not after damage control | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | having said that, the source isn't so trustworthy http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/758491/donald-trump-executive-order-restricting-immigration-muslim-countries-iraq-iran-libya | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | tabloid | Jan 25 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Donald Trump 'to sign executive orders restricting immigration from Muslim countries' | World | News | Daily Express | Jan 25 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824259319835357184 | Jan 25 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.10-rc5 | Jan 25 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "+NAME = Anniversary Edition" | Jan 25 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oLFL2JhZw6 (git.kernel.org) | Jan 25 14:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Solaris Not Dead https://t.co/DEyqL6rkXD | Jan 25 14:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux https://t.co/ZcCxYRd0zC | Jan 25 14:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Avorion and Unigine https://t.co/9BVep1Lp9m | Jan 25 14:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 25 14:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Avorion and Unigine | Tux Machines | Jan 25 14:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824266850829672448 | Jan 25 14:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros News https://t.co/cIZASreMZK | Jan 25 14:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux Machines | Jan 25 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wardleymaps/status/824165924303474688 | Jan 25 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wardleymaps: @ngoede @drnic I do not think Apple was equally fierce. https://t.co/n7FTyit5m8 https://t.co/LfduERQXhe | Jan 25 14:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824268743425593344 | Jan 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @charlie_savage @schestowitz Malinowski has a strong opinion esp at the end. Trump as a leader does invite debate among his staff. | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/notinabluemoon/status/824269622602035200 | Jan 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@notinabluemoon: Another promise kept #KeepAmericaSafeAgain @POTUS @mike_pence @KellyannePolls https://t.co/xSnhgXfArf | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #trump was not joking about banning Muslims, i.e. about a quarter of the world's population https://t.co/AUIWuNtZOT | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlairTroy/status/824269803603038208 | Jan 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BlairTroy: @schestowitz even a smart man like you knows there is a diff between restriction and banning. | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlairTroy/status/824269803603038208 | Jan 25 15:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/notinabluemoon/status/824270228876103681 | Jan 25 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@notinabluemoon: not "muslims" muslim countries that support ISIS @schestowitz its called #KeepAmericaSafeAgain | Jan 25 15:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824266853199425537 | Jan 25 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uTr5Z97tuy | Jan 25 16:08 |
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| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/thoughts_on_the_systemd_root_exploit | Jan 25 16:55 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2z88XTXcAAOzYD.jpg:large | Jan 25 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, do catholics recognise russian orthodox holy water as holy? | Jan 25 17:24 |
| MinceR | probably neither works on undead anyway | Jan 25 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Both can turn people in their graves though. | Jan 25 17:28 |
| MinceR | someone should connect a generator to them, then | Jan 25 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe that was the business idea of that protester :). | Jan 25 17:29 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 25 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | not a grave but that only makes it easier – no need to dig | Jan 25 17:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus_paintings_in_Bhutan http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/magazine/blogs/wander-woman/true-meaning-of-bhutan-phallic-obsession | Jan 25 17:38 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/cYJKMbZ.jpg | Jan 25 18:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GeckoLinux "Rolling" and "Static" editions updated to fix | Jan 25 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bugs https://t.co/Hu4a8KNAyW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 25 19:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2374.html | Jan 25 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824347917406392320 | Jan 25 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stretch preparations before the freeze | Jan 25 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L9qhl5903w (balintreczey.hu) | Jan 25 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: nice... | Jan 25 20:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@Suzyiam @wikileaks #clinton is no longer calling any...' | Jan 25 20:54 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc | Jan 25 20:59 |
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| XRevan86 | > The whole world was watching for the inauguration of the 45th president of the United States | Jan 25 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't %). | Jan 25 21:00 |
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| MinceR | neither was i | Jan 25 21:02 |
| MinceR | but then i'm used to being excluded from groups | Jan 25 21:02 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 25 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | Not the best Monty Python reference in the clip. | Jan 25 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | > She is from the ministry of Silly Walks | Jan 25 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | not an elegant reference, pretty much to the face | Jan 25 21:06 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what they had Agent Orange audio clips for | Jan 25 21:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Sandwich style BeagleBone Black clone targets volume | Jan 25 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | production https://t.co/Vxdyqhcozy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 25 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 10 best Linux distros for privacy fiends and security | Jan 25 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | buffs in 2017 https://t.co/IJpBqbj54O | Jan 25 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hitachi Increases Investment in Open Source With Linux | Jan 25 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Foundation Platinum Membership https://t.co/BROh4neYS7 | Jan 25 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Asus Tinker Board Joins Raspberry Pi on the Bargain Table | Jan 25 21:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GeckoLinux "Rolling" and "Static" editions updated to fix | Jan 25 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bugs https://t.co/EQZDUzellc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 25 21:17 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Also war on many fronts, secret wars,...' | Jan 25 21:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #torture does not work and never worked,...' | Jan 25 21:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@Autismsauce #torture would accomplish nothing but give...' | Jan 25 21:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Autismsauce This was not said in relation to...' | Jan 25 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824370965207547906 | Jan 25 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sandwich style BeagleBone Black clone targets volume | Jan 25 21:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | production https://t.co/zl59mRej04 (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 25 21:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 10 best Linux distros for privacy fiends and security | Jan 25 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | buffs in 2017 https://t.co/T9edxeSl4i (www.techradar.com) | Jan 25 21:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824371723873173506 | Jan 25 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hitachi Increases Investment in Open Source With Linux | Jan 25 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Foundation Platinum Membership https://t.co/zeVnqJoKG8 | Jan 25 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) ... https://t.co/MFwcRZCJKv | Jan 25 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hitachi Increases Investment in Open Source With Linux | Jan 25 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Asus Tinker Board Joins Raspberry Pi on the Bargain Table | Jan 25 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Newcastle photos (mostly but not only Sunday) | Jan 25 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824373660584656914 | Jan 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.0-RC2 Released, Final Coming Next Month | Jan 25 21:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 10-bit HEVC Decoding Support Being Worked On For RadeonSI | Jan 25 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gallium3D https://t.co/rkyklBjgom (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 25 21:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824379418625851407 | Jan 25 22:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Ubuntu 17.04, the Zesty Zapus, is still planning to ship | Jan 25 22:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.10 for its kernel when the OS ships in April." | Jan 25 22:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824379663342518276 | Jan 25 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #slackware Poll: who needs 32bit packages for latest | Jan 25 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma 5? https://t.co/sJsAwWYUdS (alien.slackbook.org) | Jan 25 22:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824381598510391297 | Jan 25 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Blockchain Starters https://t.co/IvzG3P93FN | Jan 25 22:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa Graphics https://t.co/MAsPKpureM | Jan 25 22:27 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1788/ | Jan 25 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824383039308447751 | Jan 25 22:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora upgrade – Does this work? https://t.co/TEiuK2pmTW | Jan 25 22:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824390029061394432 | Jan 25 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora upgrade – Does this work? https://t.co/u2P3b2IBPk | Jan 25 22:57 |
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| MinceR | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/eff-proud-stand-beside-techdirt-its-first-amendment-fight-its-life | Jan 25 23:26 |
| schestowitz | I just posted that, too | Jan 25 23:26 |
| schestowitz | well, they now bully me, too | Jan 25 23:26 |
| MinceR | this shiva guy? | Jan 25 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824390799970435072 | Jan 25 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Worried about your online privacy? Download Linux distro | Jan 25 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 2.10 https://t.co/x9PzVUYj0m (betanews.com) | Jan 25 23:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/CxGJvdCBKY | Jan 25 23:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Portal 2 Fix and Linux Gaming Benchmarks | Jan 25 23:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/Lq4RUoeX7C | Jan 25 23:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/a3sJyGXuWM | Jan 25 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Jan 25 23:40 |
| cubexyz | ok it's been confirmed, intel baytrail-m CPUs have intel me | Jan 25 23:42 |
| cubexyz | or the chipset does, the details are still a bit foggy | Jan 25 23:42 |
| cubexyz | Intel ME used to reside in the network card but it's moved several times | Jan 25 23:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824398968759070721 | Jan 25 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/9NFvxMGj9H | Jan 25 23:47 |
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| cubexyz | in 2011 they talked about ME activation | Jan 25 23:48 |
| cubexyz | so it (motherboards) would be shipped with ME turned off | Jan 25 23:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly true. ME with the ARC instruction set comes from network cards. ME enters motherboards when intel cpu started needing microcode to fire up. | Jan 25 23:53 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: some motherboards the ME controller is the keyboard controller so turning ME completely off is no Keyboard. This is why when people would say ME is off because it has not been sent firmware in the past was so wrong it was not funny in many cases. | Jan 25 23:57 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that sounds wrong... | Jan 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | when I was working on coreboot for Tyan, I learned that the keyboard controller was really part of the superio's functions | Jan 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | e.g. NSC PC87309 | Jan 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | now I don't know if that was changed later | Jan 26 00:02 |
| oiaohm | thinkpad laptops today the laptop keyboard controller is the ME unit | Jan 26 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes there was a lot saying hey these thinkpad laptops can fire up without a ME firmware but all it was doing was droping back to ME controller internal firmware. | Jan 26 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Intel has got kinda savage with current ME default firmware design. If a ME has a default embedded and its not replaced the system will shutdown when 30 min expires. | Jan 26 00:04 |
| cubexyz | my other computer has VIA VT82C686A | Jan 26 00:05 |
| cubexyz | the southbridge | Jan 26 00:05 |
| cubexyz | so is the Intel ME part of the southbridge chip? | Jan 26 00:05 |
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| oiaohm | Depends on the chipset some the ME is it own standalone chip some its embedded. | Jan 26 00:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824408030905184258 | Jan 26 00:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Parsix GNU/Linux 8.15 Officially Released, Based on | Jan 26 00:06 |
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| cubexyz | some folks talk about enabling the intel management engine... | Jan 26 00:06 |
| cubexyz | that sounds like the computer is shipped with intel me turned off | Jan 26 00:06 |
| cubexyz | where do I find more info on this? | Jan 26 00:08 |
| oiaohm | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt this is not the best. | Jan 26 00:09 |
| oiaohm | The thing is that ME is a programable microcontroller on the motherboard. It can do many different things. | Jan 26 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Some highly important like power management. | Jan 26 00:10 |
| cubexyz | ok, when did this start? | Jan 26 00:10 |
| cubexyz | and I don't have /dev/mei on the FC1 system (probably way too old) | Jan 26 00:11 |
| cubexyz | don't have it on the chromebook either | Jan 26 00:11 |
| cubexyz | huh, wikipedia talks about the northbridge | Jan 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Chromebooks some use the google made EC instead. | Jan 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Because something has to send different intel cpus there fire up microcode. | Jan 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | The fire up microcode from the ME is why you see motherboards all with the same socket only have to take particular intel cpus. | Jan 26 00:14 |
| oiaohm | and if you insert a cpu that the motherboard does not have the microcode for its not starting. | Jan 26 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Basically the ME starts first then the CPU. | Jan 26 00:15 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1789/ | Jan 26 00:15 |
| MinceR | afaik there was a way to circumvent that 30 minute thing | Jan 26 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Also the mei interface is http://ark.intel.com/products/31917/Intel-82Q33-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller around 2007 but that is not the first ME controller that is when we got to be able to interface with it. | Jan 26 00:16 |
| MinceR | so, do chromebooks work without the intel ME and with google's EC instead? | Jan 26 00:17 |
| cubexyz | that's what I'm not sure about | Jan 26 00:17 |
| oiaohm | depends on model and make of chromebooks. Some have google EC some have intel ME. | Jan 26 00:17 |
| oiaohm | But some chip has to fire up the intel cpu. | Jan 26 00:18 |
| oiaohm | If it has a intel cpu. | Jan 26 00:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sorry no only way to stop the 30 min termination in a generation of intel ME that has that is upload a replacement firmware to it from the motherboard firmware image. 30 min is so you can write a new firmware image. Of course that firmware could be just a basic ME init and stop firmware. | Jan 26 00:19 |
| MinceR | afaik they only zeroed part of the firmware | Jan 26 00:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the extra addon blocks to the ME leaving the basic ME intel and cpu power management stuff alone. | Jan 26 00:20 |
| oiaohm | opps ME intel should be ME init | Jan 26 00:20 |
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| oiaohm | Basically you cannot disable ME completely and have a stable system but you can limit is functionality. | Jan 26 00:21 |
| cubexyz | it seems it's part of the PCH or Platform Controller Hub | Jan 26 00:22 |
| cubexyz | introduced in 2008 | Jan 26 00:22 |
| oiaohm | The 82Q33 from 2007 contains a ME with the MEI interface cubexyz | Jan 26 00:22 |
| cubexyz | so you have to talk about what era you're dealing with | Jan 26 00:22 |
| oiaohm | There are ME controllers older than that. | Jan 26 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Except with no program interface from OS side. | Jan 26 00:23 |
| cubexyz | what does it _do_? | Jan 26 00:23 |
| MinceR | that's a trade secret ;) | Jan 26 00:24 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing its a jack of many trades if you read the mei.txt it lists a few different uses. | Jan 26 00:24 |
| cubexyz | do all motherboards have this ARC processor you mentioned? | Jan 26 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Motherboard makers get the development kit from Intel to add their own modules to it. | Jan 26 00:24 |
| oiaohm | The current generation ME are not ARC processor any more. | Jan 26 00:25 |
| oiaohm | http://hackaday.com/2016/01/22/the-trouble-with-intels-management-engine/ | Jan 26 00:28 |
| oiaohm | ARC, ARCompact, and SPARC V8 << yes 3 instruction sets and counting. | Jan 26 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Yes finding a smaller Sparc cpu on an intel motherboard that is like super warped. | Jan 26 00:30 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: and intel atoms don't have a ME but have a security processor that does basically the same things like sending microcode into the cpu so it can work. | Jan 26 00:35 |
| cubexyz | really what I want is assurances that my computer can't be remotely controlled | Jan 26 00:36 |
| MinceR | i guess we'll have to build our own cpu-s for that :> | Jan 26 00:36 |
| oiaohm | Really hard with ME/security controllers when what they are running cannot be decoded and audited. | Jan 26 00:37 |
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| cubexyz | well at least my amiga doesn't have Intel ME :-P | Jan 26 00:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: what makes it hard to prevent having to connect KVM switch items to computers intel built a module for the ME controller that provides KVM functionality by network. So ME with correct module can absolutely allow complete remote control as if the person is sitting at the computer. | Jan 26 00:39 |
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| cubexyz | also I'm trying an experiment tonight... | Jan 26 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | can the chromebook play mplayer and output to the HDTV | Jan 26 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | chromebook + crouton/ubuntu, I'm betting it works | Jan 26 00:41 |
| cubexyz | actually I already know it works going via the VGA connector... did that already | Jan 26 00:42 |
| cubexyz | the content isn't encrypted so game over :) | Jan 26 00:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember why cannot malware flash firmware. Current design allowing firmware to be flashed from the OS without authorisation and having a item built into computer that can be a remote KVM hello problem no matter what you do. | Jan 26 00:43 |
| cubexyz | not really | Jan 26 00:43 |
| cubexyz | we talked about that before.... if the BIOS is socketed you can yank it out and reprogram it | Jan 26 00:44 |
| cubexyz | I did that for gigabyte ga-bxc | Jan 26 00:44 |
| oiaohm | That is if you have noticed that it has been done. | Jan 26 00:45 |
| oiaohm | This is where bios write protect options are kinda important. | Jan 26 00:45 |
| cubexyz | couldn't you do a md5sum check or something? | Jan 26 00:45 |
| oiaohm | As well as auditting. | Jan 26 00:45 |
| MinceR | too bad physical switches and flash sockets are so expensive :> | Jan 26 00:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: motherboards bios is flash socketed but a lot lack a write protect switch. | Jan 26 00:46 |
| cubexyz | this motheboard has a jumper for bios write protection: | Jan 26 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Or jumper. | Jan 26 00:46 |
| cubexyz | ECS P4M800PRO-M478 | Jan 26 00:46 |
| MinceR | yeah, jumpers are too expensive too | Jan 26 00:47 |
| oiaohm | How many people remove the jumper. | Jan 26 00:47 |
| cubexyz | well first it has to _have_ a jumper :-P | Jan 26 00:47 |
| MinceR | good thing we have this enormous mountain of bloat called "UEFI" which has no costs at all :> | Jan 26 00:47 |
| oiaohm | The bloat of UEFI is a good destraction not to look at what is under it like the ME or TPM. | Jan 26 00:48 |
| cubexyz | I don't have UEFI, I have coreboot :) | Jan 26 00:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, Gigabyte GA-BXC is 1998 | Jan 26 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that has a ME controller but its too old to have the KVM functionality. It has the old ME that basically answers acpi calls and uploads cpu microcode and no control interface. | Jan 26 00:51 |
| oiaohm | The really old ME controllers are a black box but a black box that cannot do anything too bad. | Jan 26 00:52 |
| cubexyz | hopefully it's a benign Intel ME | Jan 26 00:52 |
| oiaohm | As intel expanded the functionality of the ME controller things changed until it come a spider connected everywhere with no way of effectively auditing it. | Jan 26 00:52 |
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| cubexyz | althought exactly which chip has the intel ME is still a question | Jan 26 00:53 |
| oiaohm | A little controller that searches the firmware finds the microcode for the cpu on the board and uploads it really cannot do that bad. | Jan 26 00:53 |
| cubexyz | I guess I'll have a closer look at the board | Jan 26 00:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you are looking at the Northridge core chip on that motherboard. Yes intel has not with the ME worked out if it should be stuffed inside the memory controller in the northbridge or be its own chip and keeps on changing mind. | Jan 26 00:57 |
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| oiaohm | If ME had stayed with its early functionality only it would really not be a security hazard. Little power management and loading the right mircocode into cpu from firmware so cpu starts up correctly even if it has a bug or two that is all the first ME controllers do. | Jan 26 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think that's just the intel i440bx chip | Jan 26 00:59 |
| oiaohm | the ME controller in i440bx is super basic. | Jan 26 00:59 |
| cubexyz | inititalizes ram, and does some acpi stuff | Jan 26 00:59 |
| oiaohm | don't forget reads the bios firmware image finds the microcode for the cpu and shoves that into cpu before the cpu fires up the first time. So if your cpu has a fault that can be fixed by microcode it fixed before first line of firmware is run by the cpu. | Jan 26 01:00 |
| oiaohm | The cpu fix feature of ME is great. | Jan 26 01:00 |
| MinceR | the "feature" i'm worried about is the backdoor | Jan 26 01:01 |
| cubexyz | actually I can see in the logs that coreboot attempts to update the microcode, but then doesn't do anything | Jan 26 01:02 |
| cubexyz | it's the same microcode before and after | Jan 26 01:02 |
| cubexyz | Pentium 2 slot 1 I think | Jan 26 01:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is when there is a backdoor for network maintenance in the modern ME being a network KVM interface being sure there that there is not another one is very hard or that the build in one has not been activated. | Jan 26 01:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 26 01:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: coreboot attempting to update microcode from the firmware image and find it always current is because the ME controller is beating it to the punch. | Jan 26 01:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course coreboot has to check because some ME controllers firmwares were stuffed and failed to perform microcode updating. | Jan 26 01:05 |
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| cubexyz | I can't help thinking that if I designed a computer it wouldn't have all this complexity | Jan 26 01:53 |
| cubexyz | dmidecode says some odd things | Jan 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | the port connector info is listed as reference designator: USB | Jan 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | but then it says the internal connector type is Centronics | Jan 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | definitely seems wrong | Jan 26 02:11 |
| cubexyz | probably a bug | Jan 26 02:12 |
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| cubexyz | stop whining and start WINE-ing! :) | Jan 26 02:31 |
| cubexyz | "starting with ME 7.1 the ARC processor can execute signed Java applets" | Jan 26 03:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note that is version 7.1 so there were a lot of versions before that. Yes Jeff files form of java. | Jan 26 03:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the basic idea of ME is ok but then they have extended it to insanity. | Jan 26 03:45 |
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| cubexyz | well there's talk of decapping and x-raying chips | Jan 26 04:25 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what stallman thinks of all this | Jan 26 04:29 |
| cubexyz | I heard google is working on their own CPU | Jan 26 04:30 |
| cubexyz | everytime I think I'm getting a handle on this stuff I discover more stuff | Jan 26 04:39 |
| cubexyz | so maybe Apple, Microsoft and Google will end up making their own CPUs | Jan 26 04:52 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, ever heard of Odroid-C2? | Jan 26 04:55 |
| cubexyz | no Intel ME on that :) | Jan 26 04:55 |
| cubexyz | https://puri.sm/posts/petition-for-intel-to-release-an-me-less-cpu-design/ | Jan 26 04:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel cpus are more needing microcode from somewhere. So me less is not practical. Now something like chrome EC that is a fully documented and open source ME secured by some true hardware way. | Jan 26 06:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember when they did so called ME less with atom they renamed it security processor. | Jan 26 06:54 |
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| cubexyz | how do you expect the modern 2017 computer user to run notepad within 1000 GPUs and 12 gigs of ram? | Jan 26 07:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Netrunner 17.01.2 Desktop ISO Adds the Calamares 3.0 | Jan 26 09:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Firefox Focus and Firefox 51 https://t.co/YYZZyLsCEa | Jan 26 10:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Focus and Firefox 51 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 10:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE and Slimbook Release a Laptop for KDE Fans | Jan 26 14:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and Slimbook Release a Laptop for KDE Fans | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824620317322604544 | Jan 26 14:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A Switch for Your RPi https://t.co/cQnl2hA03O | Jan 26 14:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Switch for Your RPi | Tux Machines | Jan 26 14:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824627858719076352 | Jan 26 14:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE and Slimbook Release a Laptop for KDE Fans | Jan 26 14:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ntcBFEOlDo (dot.kde.org) | Jan 26 14:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | KDE and Slimbook Release a Laptop for KDE Fans | KDE.news | Jan 26 14:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824630149559832581 | Jan 26 14:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A Switch for Your RPi https://t.co/FDvyHYXlaQ | Jan 26 14:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | A Switch for Your RPi | Linux Journal | Jan 26 14:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New Package in Tumbleweed Enhances Rolling Updates | Jan 26 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Jan 26 14:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824630971605651457 | Jan 26 14:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Puzzle Puppers, a really cute puzzle game could come to | Jan 26 14:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux with enough support https://t.co/93hzWAFLnS | Jan 26 14:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Puzzle Puppers, a really cute puzzle game could come to Linux with enough support | GamingOnLinux | Jan 26 14:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Dead Cells, a roguelike and castlevania-inspired | Jan 26 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | action-platformer looks amazing and heading to Linux | Jan 26 14:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dead Cells, a roguelike and castlevania-inspired action-platformer looks amazing and heading to Linux | GamingOnLinux | Jan 26 14:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine and Games https://t.co/EXneTrKyxX | Jan 26 15:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine and Games | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824640671856427008 | Jan 26 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trimming Power on an Oceanographic Lab in a Can | Jan 26 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CiOHW7mmFY (www.linux.com) | Jan 26 15:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trimming Power on an Oceanographic Lab in a Can | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 26 15:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824643509735006208 | Jan 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New ISO images for LMDE 2 “Betsy” – BETA Release | Jan 26 15:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » New ISO images for LMDE 2 “Betsy” – BETA Release | Jan 26 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824645014076686336 | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Metamorphose 2 Bulk Rename Tool Available In PPA For | Jan 26 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 [Quick Update] https://t.co/GMxdjmTGFw | Jan 26 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Metamorphose 2 Bulk Rename Tool Available In PPA For Ubuntu 16.10 [Quick Update] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Jan 26 15:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New ISO images for LMDE 2 “Betsy” – BETA Release | Jan 26 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New ISO images for LMDE 2 “Betsy” – BETA Release | Tux Machines | Jan 26 15:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Slimbook and Other Qt/KDE News | Jan 26 16:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824661605325688832 | Jan 26 16:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE Dock Applet Sees New Release | Jan 26 16:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824662107203534848 | Jan 26 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Shadow of Mordor Updated For Linux With Performance | Jan 26 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements https://t.co/zEPzU0Mc0a (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 26 17:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 https://t.co/t1sSlicmaZ | Jan 26 17:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 17:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824665465439997953 | Jan 26 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fixing Shadow of Mordor for GNU/Linux | Jan 26 17:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fixing Shadow of Mordor for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 26 17:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "This Linux controlled "lab in a can" was developed to | Jan 26 17:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | identify health hazards, such as toxic algae blooms" | Jan 26 17:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running an Undersea, Robotic Laboratory on a Fixed Energy Budget - Brent Roman | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 26 17:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation Teaching https://t.co/SjDOVoEzxR | Jan 26 17:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Events: LCA, FOSDEM17, and Embedded Linux Conference | Jan 26 17:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Europe https://t.co/5RQuSqaHNs (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 17:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: LCA, FOSDEM17, and Embedded Linux Conference Europe | Tux Machines | Jan 26 17:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/5nLNpxvoEP | Jan 26 17:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 26 17:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software Development and Development Teams | Jan 26 17:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics News and Benchmarks https://t.co/5DzDNNMVMP | Jan 26 18:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | SUSE Leftovers https://t.co/VyeXFO3XFu | Jan 26 18:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | In Search of an Open Source DNS Server | Jan 26 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824683745097588736 | Jan 26 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RPi expansion boards support up to 40-Pi clusters | Jan 26 18:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RPi expansion boards support up to 40-Pi clusters | Tux Machines | Jan 26 18:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More Linux on my new notebook: Fedora, Linux Mint and | Jan 26 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu https://t.co/4CBzuJ78xA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 18:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Linux on my new notebook: Fedora, Linux Mint and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 26 18:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824692808678137856 | Jan 26 19:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.6 https://t.co/MY448HocDv (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 19:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.6 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 19:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | RPi expansion boards support up to 40-Pi clusters | Jan 26 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IO8uLoWjn3 (linuxgizmos.com) | Jan 26 19:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | RPi expansion boards support up to 40-Pi clusters | Jan 26 19:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824693798991228928 | Jan 26 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More Linux on my new notebook: Fedora, Linux Mint and | Jan 26 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu https://t.co/QQPYX8NTRr (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 26 19:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Linux on my new notebook: Fedora, Linux Mint and Ubuntu | ZDNet | Jan 26 19:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824694230056599553 | Jan 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.6 https://t.co/PEZYUsQFmT (lwn.net) | Jan 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.4.45 https://t.co/SWUInqYBz6 (lwn.net) | Jan 26 19:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824695026164924417 | Jan 26 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GoboLinux: Questioning the Linux File Hierarchy | Jan 26 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/o24J9lJE2W (www.ocsmag.com) | Jan 26 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | GoboLinux: Questioning the Linux File Hierarchy | OCS-Mag | Jan 26 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824701705199554560 | Jan 26 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/rTTRgjkrBE | Jan 26 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jan 26 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824701706965430272 | Jan 26 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GoboLinux: Questioning the Linux File Hierarchy | Jan 26 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LxlDynnirc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 20:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GoboLinux: Questioning the Linux File Hierarchy | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/824708752846811137 | Jan 26 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 https://t.co/t1sSlicmaZ | Jan 26 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 26 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcement of LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 20:36 | |
| schestowitz | It's about me: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170111/11440836465/techdirts-first-amendment-fight-life.shtml | Jan 26 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/qbm1w ] | Jan 26 20:53 | |
| schestowitz | Oops, wrong link | Jan 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | This one https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170125/14550136565/legal-threats-charles-harder-shiva-ayyadurai-targeting-more-speech.shtml | Jan 26 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Threats By Charles Harder & Shiva Ayyadurai Targeting More Speech | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/qe2aq ] | Jan 26 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/824722213936963587 | Jan 26 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @TimCushing @techdirt .@schestowitz have you seen this? @EFF @ACLU This is outrageous! @Popehat https://t.co/OnlzYjj3OB | Jan 26 20:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Gawker went out of business because of sleazy practices outing thiel against his wishes." | Jan 26 20:57 |
| schestowitz | "|And doing things a billionaire doesn't like is a very serious crime." | Jan 26 20:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824745751062274049 | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cutting power consumption on a Linux-based undersea | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | robotics lab https://t.co/BaHWVQvLQM | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/gy1dxTcxlm | Jan 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 22:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cutting power consumption on a Linux-based undersea robotics lab | Tux Machines | Jan 26 22:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Cutting power consumption on a Linux-based undersea robotics lab https://t.co/BaHWVQvLQM https://t.co/gy1dxTcxlm | Jan 26 22:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824745755650908161 | Jan 26 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for | Jan 26 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/xmGDREGvMS | Jan 26 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/9JE412M0zj | Jan 26 22:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 | Tux Machines | Jan 26 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/xmGDREGvMS https://t.co/9JE412M0zj | Jan 26 22:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLArtForce @wikileaks @voguemagazine Obama never pardoned #snowden and...' | Jan 26 23:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824754562296750080 | Jan 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD | Jan 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/gpN7SvEq4B | Jan 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/GYPxVuKwfY | Jan 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 26 23:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD 7xxx/8xxx Support | Tux Machines | Jan 26 23:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/gpN7SvEq4B https://t.co/GYPxVuKwfY | Jan 26 23:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 26 23:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu...' | Jan 26 23:09 | |
| MinceR | http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a1d4jAD_460sv.mp4 | Jan 26 23:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ribeirospost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 26 23:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824770446126096385 | Jan 27 00:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hello KubeVirt | Jan 27 00:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dummdida.tumblr.com | dummdida — Hello KubeVirt | Jan 27 00:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824771984177426436 | Jan 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Remote control your Samsung Tizen smartphone using your | Jan 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | earphones https://t.co/3jBQbFTvWc (www.tizenexperts.com) | Jan 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 00:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Remote control your Samsung Tizen smartphone using your earphones - Tizen Experts | Jan 27 00:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824772586030653441 | Jan 27 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 25 Taipei Release Party report | Jan 27 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oYkp4bjvHW (communityblog.fedoraproject.org) | Jan 27 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/okHwQeq5n0 (fedoramagazine.org) | Jan 27 00:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 00:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora 25 Taipei Release Party report - Fedora Community Blog | Jan 27 00:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | FCAIC in the House, part II - Fedora Magazine | Jan 27 00:17 | |
| cubexyz | wow, Trump is muzzling the EPA and the national park service | Jan 27 00:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-epa-usda-information-ban | Jan 27 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump Is Really Going to Destroy the Earth, Huh? | GQ | Jan 27 00:39 | |
| cubexyz | "Barring public access to objectively verfiable data gleaned from taxpayer-funded scientific inquires" | Jan 27 00:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824773182842339328 | Jan 27 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | HTC will have 'another flagship' with Snapdragon 835 | Jan 27 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ad1bGvBzYo (www.androidcentral.com) | Jan 27 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 00:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | HTC will have 'another flagship' with Snapdragon 835 | Android Central | Jan 27 00:44 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | you read the news slowly :-) | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | it's like news from, well... 2 days ago ;-) | Jan 27 00:53 |
| cubexyz | spent hours yesterday studying the intel ME thing | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | I used to follow EPA | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | All year long | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | after your recommendation | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | They had an rss feed | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I've deleted that, just recently | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | after a year | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | they're now Trump's pawn | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | headed by his man, Scott something IIRC | Jan 27 00:54 |
| cubexyz | Scott Pruitt I think | Jan 27 00:54 |
| cubexyz | https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/as-the-planet-warms-senators-shrug/513746/ | Jan 27 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | As the Planet Warms, Trump's EPA Director Hedges - The Atlantic | Jan 27 00:57 | |
| cubexyz | I wonder what his science background is :-/ | Jan 27 00:57 |
| cubexyz | oh great... | Jan 27 00:57 |
| cubexyz | "Pruitt has no formal scientific or environment training" | Jan 27 00:58 |
| cubexyz | s/environment/environmental/ | Jan 27 00:58 |
| cubexyz | and he sued the EPA a bunch of times as Attorney General of Oklahoma | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824780126248370177 | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat doubles down on a deal driver: #OpenShift | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/phnHQWEqNe (www.bizjournals.com) | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Iegf9aiDGY (www.railway-technology.com) | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yVSnb2HUJf (it-online.co.za) | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Red Hat doubles down on a deal driver: OpenShift - Triangle Business Journal | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.railway-technology.com | SBB uses Red Hat OpenShift Container Platform for freight network - Railway Technology | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it-online.co.za | Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) deploys Red Hat | IT-Online | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824783820775968771 | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/0f0YDsUCvc | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 | Jan 27 01:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824784068005003265 | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/8fQpzIptEX | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/mewgQHBfqC | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 27 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD 7xxx/8xxx Support | Jan 27 01:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Released - Phoronix | Jan 27 01:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jan 27 01:05 | |
| cubexyz | the EPA rss feed is probably still useful, even if Scott Pruitt is a trump stooge | Jan 27 01:07 |
| cubexyz | http://www.epa.gov/newsroom/rssfeeds.htm | Jan 27 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epa.gov | Newsroom | US EPA | Jan 27 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824786358635986945 | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jonathan Blow states he is open to a Linux port of The | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Witness with Vulkan, but never with OpenGL | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9muoTQrzhJ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jonathan Blow states he is open to a Linux port of The Witness with Vulkan, but never with OpenGL | GamingOnLinux | Jan 27 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824786771212980224 | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Civilization VI has entered final testing for Linux, | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | could release soon, should be on sale too | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iU9fmBzNKK (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Civilization VI has entered final testing for Linux, could release soon, should be on sale too | GamingOnLinux | Jan 27 01:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu...' | Jan 27 01:12 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yeah, but I won't RE-subscribe | Jan 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz | not after Trump ruined it | Jan 27 01:14 |
| cubexyz | how about this one instead: | Jan 27 01:19 |
| cubexyz | https://eponline.com/rss-feeds/news.aspx?admgarea=RSS | Jan 27 01:19 |
| cubexyz | added the distrowatch rss: | Jan 27 01:22 |
| cubexyz | http://www.distrowatch.com/news/news/dw.xml | Jan 27 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/news/news/dw.xml ) | Jan 27 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | I got it already | Jan 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | but now the weekly news one | Jan 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | it's always early Monday/late Sunday | Jan 27 01:40 |
| cubexyz | going to try canto | Jan 27 01:42 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/c0187630b3f8013428f5005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-20 ) | Jan 27 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remember Or Rumor - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-01-20 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jan 27 01:46 | |
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| cubexyz | tch, this canto version is old | Jan 27 01:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 27 01:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824797401206706178 | Jan 27 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 26/1/2017: KDE Slimbook Release, LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Jan 27 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HhfxcMc57R (techrights.org) | Jan 27 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/1/2017: KDE Slimbook Release, LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Techrights | Jan 27 01:54 | |
| cubexyz | this python stuff.... grrrr | Jan 27 01:57 |
| cubexyz | there's multiple python-dev packages | Jan 27 01:57 |
| cubexyz | ls | Jan 27 01:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824797550469320708 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ibJD3cR7j4 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798723372785664 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/gOa3b9yOQv | Jan 27 01:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798724668813312 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Leadership Summit and 4Ccon | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FESJZvNITw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Leadership Summit and 4Ccon | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798726065573888 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/0wRAkSfFXb | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798727789359104 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/H2Iz1RFGl2 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798729265745920 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/KhTXhVLUEL (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798730742177792 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/ys0n7wEnTD | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798732042375169 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More News About KDE Slimbook https://t.co/oiu6WaAFAd | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More News About KDE Slimbook | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798733871116288 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software and Games https://t.co/Ivqv9gZjcm | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software and Games | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798735255232514 | Jan 27 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/QkPob0pZtL | Jan 27 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 02:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 27 02:01 | |
| MinceR | 27 025726 < cubexyz> there's multiple python-dev packages | Jan 27 02:02 |
| MinceR | one for python2 and one for python3? | Jan 27 02:02 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jan 27 02:02 |
| MinceR | that's to be expected | Jan 27 02:03 |
| cubexyz | is ubuntu 14.04 really old? | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | they're not entirely compatible | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jan 27 02:03 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | python2 and python3 both survive and are in active use | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | they both have their advantages vs the other | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-tried-to-force-national-park-service-to-verify-his-false-numbers-about-crowd-size-report/ | Jan 27 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Trump tried to force National Park Service to verify his false numbers about crowd size: report | Jan 27 02:04 | |
| MinceR | lold | Jan 27 02:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dongoehubaire/status/824788145086529537 | Jan 27 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dongoehubaire: The guy who pretends he invented email is at it yet again, and I'm beginning to grudgingly respect his dedication. https://t.co/uDD1Pv22Qn | Jan 27 02:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Lawyer for “inventor of e-mail” sends threat letter over social media posts | Ars Technica | Jan 27 02:06 | |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jan 27 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824799399322718211 | Jan 27 02:08 |
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| cubexyz | screw canto :-/ | Jan 27 02:10 |
| cubexyz | it's tons and tons of shit | Jan 27 02:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'll use newsbeuter instead | Jan 27 02:17 |
| cubexyz | much better | Jan 27 02:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 02:22 |
| MinceR | have you found a feedreader that actually scales to having lots of feed items without slowing to a crawl? | Jan 27 02:22 |
| cubexyz | I hope so... newsbeuter is ncurses so it should be faster | Jan 27 02:23 |
| MinceR | won't help much if their database is ill-designed | Jan 27 02:23 |
| cubexyz | you know I'm always looking for the lightest memory use possible | Jan 27 02:25 |
| cubexyz | akregator was pulling in festival which I thought was stupid | Jan 27 02:25 |
| cubexyz | and kttsd | Jan 27 02:26 |
| cubexyz | or maybe it was konqueror pulling it in | Jan 27 02:27 |
| cubexyz | nope there it is again... | Jan 27 02:28 |
| cubexyz | the NASA feed didn't work in newsbeuter | Jan 27 02:35 |
| cubexyz | evidently ubuntu 14.04 is trusty tahr | Jan 27 02:41 |
| cubexyz | so 2014 era | Jan 27 02:41 |
| cubexyz | yay, I'm only 3 years out of date this time | Jan 27 02:42 |
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| r_schestowitz | [02:25] <cubexyz> akregator was pulling in festival which I thought was stupid | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:26] <cubexyz> and kttsd | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:27] <cubexyz> or maybe it was konqueror pulling it in | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:28] <cubexyz> nope there it is again... | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:35] <cubexyz> the NASA feed didn't work in newsbeuter | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:41] <cubexyz> evidently ubuntu 14.04 is trusty tahr | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:41] <cubexyz> so 2014 era | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:42] <cubexyz> yay, I'm only 3 years out of date this time | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [03:02] <cubexyz> all systems are go | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [03:02] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/newsbeuter.png | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [08:38] <r_schestowitz> https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/5qe0qm/lawyer_for_inventor_of_email_sends_threat_letter/ | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [08:38] <r_schestowitz> "Unsurprising activity from a man who has, on occasion, accused chestnuts of being lazy." | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | Xchat was offline | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | so i had to pull the above in | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | for the logs at least | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | although I reckon cubelog1 got it anyway | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | the backup for the logs, my connection went down and xchat-gnome is rubbish compared to the original | Jan 27 09:08 |
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| MinceR | http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/306411/world-ugliest-house-up-for-sale/ | Jan 27 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deathandtaxesmag.com | World’s ugliest house now up for sale [ http://ur1.ca/qe6mp ] | Jan 27 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824952722264846336 | Jan 27 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I have seen many uglier homes (than this) | Jan 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | i haven't, at least from the inside | Jan 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | especially that splatter pattern on the windows :> | Jan 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | obviously, the outside (even if it's a McMansion) has nothing on the works of brutalism | Jan 27 12:37 |
| MinceR | plastic barns with randomly placed windows can't beat bare concrete blocks washed with sewage | Jan 27 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Ok what house picture. | Jan 27 12:50 |
| oiaohm | It has to be fairly bad to beat one I saw sell for 5 million dollars. The house was that bad that due to the fact the floor, roof and walls were unstable you were not allowed to go inside. | Jan 27 12:52 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 12:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.curbly.com/trump-is-a-living-mcmansion | Jan 27 12:55 |
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| oiaohm | Ok that is not that bad. | Jan 27 12:56 |
| oiaohm | Compared to the worse I have seen. | Jan 27 12:56 |
| MinceR | it's pretty tiresome to look at, though | Jan 27 12:57 |
| MinceR | details and yellow everywhere | Jan 27 12:57 |
| MinceR | also, it's hideously tacky | Jan 27 12:59 |
| oiaohm | The top 3 features other than been totally condemned of the worse house I have ever seen that sold for a fortune. 1 the down stairs toilet door lined up with the front door. 2 not a single step in the place was built to code. 3 orginal colors blood red, Yellow and black used random-ally. | Jan 27 13:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes the reason it was falling down even the person who built it looked at it and said I am not living there. | Jan 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I will give you it takes beating the worst I have ever seen. | Jan 27 13:04 |
| MinceR | :D | Jan 27 13:05 |
| oiaohm | That house proved that position mattered it was a well placed beach front location. | Jan 27 13:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.domain.com.au/news/worst-house-youll-ever-see-hits-the-market-for-1-million-20160503-gokrij/ last years worse house on sale in Australia was not that bad. | Jan 27 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.domain.com.au | ‘Worst house you’ll ever see’ hits the market for $1 million – Domain | Jan 27 13:09 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 13:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically trumps house is not bad enough to need a bulldozer. Complete internal clean out and some sane design work and it fixed. The worst houses here are past all possible repair. | Jan 27 13:12 |
| MinceR | i doubt they'd tear down a highrise with a bulldozer anyway | Jan 27 13:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: depends on what size bulldozer. Mining dozer 3 stories high not much stops those. | Jan 27 13:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 13:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, but it will damage adjacent property | Jan 27 13:15 |
| oiaohm | You know the building really bad when the adjacent properties don't care. | Jan 27 13:15 |
| oiaohm | http://www.realestate.com.au/news/2016s-worst-looking-houses-sold-for-more-than-1-million/ << I like the limit here must of sold for more than 1 million dollars to make the list. | Jan 27 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2016’s worst looking houses sold for more than $1 million - realestate.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/qe6un ] | Jan 27 13:16 | |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komatsu_D575A The dozer I was thinking about is 2 stories. Still used against a building the correct way it will do major structural damage. | Jan 27 13:20 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, if you're still around give me a list of intel CPUs that don't have the management engine | Jan 28 00:50 |
| cubexyz | ok, found something interesting... | Jan 28 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24661 Really you have to go back a long way to get a chip that does not have a management engine or equal a possible on the motherboard. Everything Pent 4 and newer | Jan 28 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-downloadcenter.intel.com | Download Linux* Processor Microcode Data File | Jan 28 00:54 | |
| oiaohm | could have one. | Jan 28 00:55 |
| cubexyz | when I built coreboot for gigabyte GA-BXC there was no ME blob | Jan 28 00:55 |
| cubexyz | socketed atmel AT29C020 bios chip... | Jan 28 00:56 |
| oiaohm | Not all ME are updatable either. Some of the early ME chips search the firmware find the microcode shove into cpu before starting bois but the ME firmware is written into the ME chip rom. | Jan 28 00:57 |
| oiaohm | So some ME chips are not a threat because their functionality is limited and not changeable. | Jan 28 00:57 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the reason intel added the ME chip in the first place was to update microcode of cpu before starting bios to allow them to ship more chips like chips that have defects that microcode can work around. | Jan 28 00:59 |
| cubexyz | there's no good info on what exactly the Intel ME does | Jan 28 00:59 |
| oiaohm | there is no good information on what ME does because its feature creep of the worse kind. | Jan 28 01:00 |
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| oiaohm | Add a microcontroller to start cpu with current microcode you start with. Then you have a microconroller sitting in board doing nothing lets have it keep running doing some power management tasks.... and the features just keep on creeping in. | Jan 28 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Until you end up with the spider that current day ME is. | Jan 28 01:01 |
| cubexyz | ok, so P2, P3's don't need Intel ME | Jan 28 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Also early ME was a independant chip so vendors could add their own replacements. | Jan 28 01:02 |
| cubexyz | what chip? | Jan 28 01:02 |
| cubexyz | the northbridge I suppose | Jan 28 01:02 |
| oiaohm | It would be a power management chip | Jan 28 01:03 |
| cubexyz | can you give an example? | Jan 28 01:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ec-development this was a vendor replacement to a ME. | Jan 28 01:05 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: so by the time of chromebooks EC the google developers make a replacement for everything that a ME had to-do so a intel system could operate. | Jan 28 01:05 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 28 01:07 |
| starstreak | you're still running a pentium3? | Jan 28 01:08 |
| oiaohm | page 20 of the presentation on that page. Do note by 2014 the ME is doing keyboard controller. Lot of what were different independent microcontrollers on old motherboards had been consumed into the ME. | Jan 28 01:08 |
| cubexyz | actually power management used to be (maybe it still is) part of the southbridge | Jan 28 01:09 |
| cubexyz | I run about a dozen different computers | Jan 28 01:09 |
| oiaohm | there is a i2c control for the southbridge for power management something has to send the power management instructions. | Jan 28 01:09 |
| starstreak | thanks for killing the planet | Jan 28 01:09 |
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| cubexyz | what are you talking about? | Jan 28 01:10 |
| starstreak | the amount of power you are wasting to power low end hardware is disgusting | Jan 28 01:10 |
| cubexyz | it's not significant | Jan 28 01:10 |
| starstreak | i could probably emulate 100 pentium 3s with a quarter of the power | Jan 28 01:11 |
| cubexyz | most of them aren't even turned on at the moment | Jan 28 01:11 |
| cubexyz | plus some are headless | Jan 28 01:11 |
| starstreak | quarter power of one p3 that is | Jan 28 01:11 |
| starstreak | oh ok | Jan 28 01:11 |
| starstreak | even a raspi would do circles around most old computers and uses little to no power | Jan 28 01:12 |
| starstreak | it grinds my gears when people think they're being cheap but waste cash on electricity powering old power wasting machines | Jan 28 01:12 |
| cubexyz | you haven't thought this out at all | Jan 28 01:12 |
| cubexyz | chip fab generates pollution | Jan 28 01:13 |
| starstreak | right | Jan 28 01:13 |
| cubexyz | also I don't really trust new computers with Intel ME and who knows what | Jan 28 01:13 |
| starstreak | so slowing down progression (which leads to smaller chips which use less pollution to make) will create bigger problems than you seek to fix | Jan 28 01:13 |
| starstreak | what you wouldnt trust is AMD using Intel ME | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | AMD produces shit | Jan 28 01:14 |
| cubexyz | so you're fine with disposable unfixable computers? | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | Intel's process is so mature they don't need to speed bin anymore | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 28 01:14 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: you are overlooking the cost of chip production. Sorry to say not true on the idea less pollution is kinda wrong. Fabs that produced the pent 3 are still in usage. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | eventually computer chips will be so small and cheap they'll power paper computers, wallpaper displays, etc | Jan 28 01:15 |
| starstreak | so yeah, keep slowing down technology by hoarding old tech | Jan 28 01:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: turns out it cheaper to produce a new pent 3 than a new rasbery pi. Yes a pent 3 using the same old fab. | Jan 28 01:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: that is in a envornmental cost of production. | Jan 28 01:15 |
| cubexyz | I have zero effect on technology :) | Jan 28 01:15 |
| cubexyz | I am slowing down nothing | Jan 28 01:15 |
| starstreak | the pentium 3 likely uses 100 times more power | Jan 28 01:16 |
| starstreak | maybe that doesnt matter if you're running on wind or solar | Jan 28 01:16 |
| starstreak | nobody is going to stop making new chips and go back to pentium 3s | Jan 28 01:16 |
| cubexyz | exactly my point | Jan 28 01:16 |
| starstreak | theres no sense in that | Jan 28 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I have no effect on things | Jan 28 01:17 |
| starstreak | good | Jan 28 01:17 |
| starstreak | you're part of a dying breed of obsolete people against change | Jan 28 01:17 |
| cubexyz | you know nothing about me | Jan 28 01:17 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: new pentium 3 class chips are made today for usages that require high radiation tollerence. | Jan 28 01:17 |
| starstreak | im not new i've been here before | Jan 28 01:17 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: basically pentium 3 class chips are still in current day production. | Jan 28 01:18 |
| starstreak | when i asked if you were still running a pentium3, its cuz i remember back in 2009 you did | Jan 28 01:18 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: special use cases | Jan 28 01:18 |
| starstreak | a pentium 3 would die on 1080p | Jan 28 01:18 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 180 nm construction is still required for making cpus for radiation tollerence. | Jan 28 01:18 |
| cubexyz | no one cares what you think "starstreak" | Jan 28 01:19 |
| cubexyz | go pick an argument with someone else | Jan 28 01:19 |
| starstreak | lol | Jan 28 01:19 |
| starstreak | they might not care but they'll agree with me cuz progress is awesome | Jan 28 01:20 |
| cubexyz | go play on windows 10 like a good little punk | Jan 28 01:21 |
| cubexyz | that's all you're good for | Jan 28 01:21 |
| starstreak | if everyone stuck to p3's like you we wouldn't have all this amazing battery technology powering teslas | Jan 28 01:21 |
| cubexyz | I seem to remember making batteries also generates pollution | Jan 28 01:22 |
| starstreak | yeah so where do you store your wind and solar excess so you don't have outages? | Jan 28 01:22 |
| oiaohm | Really if you really cared about envornment you would be more focused on have some of the old cpu types back and made at a decent nm. http://j-core.org/ this is a reimplementation of the old superh | Jan 28 01:23 |
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| oiaohm | SuperH cpu were known for being one of the highest density of cpu instructions to ram of a 32 bit or 64 bit processor. | Jan 28 01:23 |
| starstreak | does it run x86 or arm code? | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | SuperH is superh so of course is not x86 or arm | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | Neither of x86 or arm have been design to be absolutely size effective. | Jan 28 01:25 |
| cubexyz | unrepairable computers generates tons of ewaste | Jan 28 01:25 |
| cubexyz | this is a stupid convo | Jan 28 01:25 |
| starstreak | so then you trade one waste for another waste | Jan 28 01:26 |
| cubexyz | for less waste, which is the lesser evil | Jan 28 01:26 |
| starstreak | but at the same time you end up waiting forever for shit and can't do anything new | Jan 28 01:26 |
| starstreak | its the same waste | Jan 28 01:26 |
| cubexyz | you haven't been paying attention | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | you're either generating ewaste or you're wasting electricity, and if you've been running that p3 since the 90s i can only imagine your disgusting carbon footprint over that time | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | i would say you are causing more damage than throwing it out | Jan 28 01:27 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: what is the carbon foot print to recycle a p3. | Jan 28 01:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, well have fun with your bic light computer | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | by wasting more electricty than the energy required to get rid of it | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | the computer means nothing to me | Jan 28 01:28 |
| starstreak | the data matters | Jan 28 01:28 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: to recycle a pent 3 properly consumes as much power as that is required to run the chip for 15 years. | Jan 28 01:28 |
| oiaohm | the price tag on recycling ewaste is down right scary. | Jan 28 01:28 |
| starstreak | the chip isnt that efficient | Jan 28 01:28 |
| starstreak | you're not looking at how much watts he is burning to compute cycles over that 15 year period | Jan 28 01:29 |
| cubexyz | the landfills need more iphones you see... | Jan 28 01:29 |
| starstreak | cycles computed over 15 years times the amount of electricity that used, vs cycles computed with cpu upgrades every 5 years | Jan 28 01:29 |
| starstreak | you'll have more cycles computed with cpu upgrades, and each upgrade will lower the watts required | Jan 28 01:29 |
| oiaohm | I mean he runs the pent 3 cpu at a 100 percent load for 15 years. The power cost to recycle it would take that long. | Jan 28 01:29 |
| starstreak | look at it this way | Jan 28 01:30 |
| cubexyz | it's no where near that | Jan 28 01:30 |
| cubexyz | no where near 100% | Jan 28 01:30 |
| starstreak | if he ran SETI@home on his p3 for the last 15 years, and got 20000 units complete | Jan 28 01:30 |
| starstreak | if he upgraded, a current i7 would probably do that in a week | Jan 28 01:30 |
| starstreak | think about all the electricity BURNED to get the SAME result as a newer chip | Jan 28 01:30 |
| cubexyz | it's insignificant | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | i7 due to lower nm has a shorter lifespan of operation starstreak | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | its not insigificant | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | before the chip fails. | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | If running i7 and pent 3 to max live and proper recycling both the pent 3 is cheaper. | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | yeah and in 5 years when that happens you get a new chip thats 4x faster than that one | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | and uses even less power | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | so over time less and less power is required for more and more output | Jan 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | while running but you are negletiting recycling. | Jan 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | New silicon contains more parts harder to recycle. | Jan 28 01:32 |
| cubexyz | it's using about 3% of the cpu in IRC | Jan 28 01:32 |
| starstreak | its like cubexyz is dumping truckloads of gas into an SUV to do the same thing as a car which does it in one tank | Jan 28 01:32 |
| cubexyz | I don't even drive, I use public trans | Jan 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the overall picture is harder. | Jan 28 01:33 |
| starstreak | you can get something the power of his p3 in a chip so small you can't even see it | Jan 28 01:33 |
| oiaohm | I remember the case where a person proved that a SUV was less pollution than a electric car. | Jan 28 01:33 |
| oiaohm | So just because something is less pollution in usage you do have to look at the production and disposal costs as well. | Jan 28 01:34 |
| starstreak | really depends where you live for a lot of it | Jan 28 01:34 |
| starstreak | i know cubexyz is in ontario | Jan 28 01:34 |
| starstreak | hes rural too so that p3 is likely a killer on his hydro bill thanks to wynne | Jan 28 01:35 |
| starstreak | no wonder its off ;) | Jan 28 01:35 |
| oiaohm | the electric car one presumed it was running purely on clean power sources for electricity. The production of batteries and that stuff was a nightmare. | Jan 28 01:35 |
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| oiaohm | So if a p3 is getting is electricty from wind or solar exactly what would be the envornmental problem starstreak | Jan 28 01:36 |
| starstreak | the battery at that point | Jan 28 01:36 |
| cubexyz | the batteries for the UPS, or whatever | Jan 28 01:36 |
| starstreak | wind and solar use batteries to provide sustained power during night time and such | Jan 28 01:37 |
| starstreak | you dont want a two second cloud to take down your PC | Jan 28 01:37 |
| starstreak | IDE drives dont like that | Jan 28 01:37 |
| cubexyz | I turn off most of the computers most of the time anyways | Jan 28 01:38 |
| starstreak | to be environmentally friendly in canada and the USA i usually suggest people use ARM unless they need something to play games on | Jan 28 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Next other than a pent 3 low performance. You are aware that most pent 3 systems have smaller PSU than current day x86 systems. | Jan 28 01:39 |
| starstreak | not true | Jan 28 01:39 |
| oiaohm | what wattage do you think is a pent 3 power system. | Jan 28 01:39 |
| cubexyz | the chromebook I use is very low power | Jan 28 01:39 |
| starstreak | i've been able to keep the same PSU across upgrades because components keep using less and less power | Jan 28 01:39 |
| starstreak | no longer am I required to power my video card seperatly from the motherboard for example | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | SSDs less power, NVMe SSDs use motherboard power too | Jan 28 01:40 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | NVMe's are awesome | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | you can get desktop motherboards with them | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | 2000MB/s read/write per drive for cheaper models | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | I asked a system question what wattage do you think a pent 3 power supply is. | Jan 28 01:41 |
| starstreak | about 500 watts | Jan 28 01:41 |
| starstreak | and less than 80 percent efficient | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | 500 watts is a dual chip pent 3 half of it is adverage pent3 250watts | Jan 28 01:41 |
| starstreak | 80 percent gets you a certification stamp | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Power usage of x86 went up at pent 4 | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | and it went down ever since core2duo | Jan 28 01:42 |
| oiaohm | and we have not got back down there yet. | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | my dual core, core2duo uses 21.5 watts | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | i measured it | Jan 28 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Please note 250watts was the complete pent 3 system. | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | a complete system, including display, core2duo, 21.5 watts | Jan 28 01:43 |
| cubexyz | the big pig was the CRT anyways, not the computer | Jan 28 01:43 |
| starstreak | running windows it drew 31 watts | Jan 28 01:43 |
| starstreak | probably cuz the graphics driver was actually doing something | Jan 28 01:44 |
| oiaohm | 250watts is the psu rating that the old pent 3 could pull. Yes the CRT was the nightmare that caped how much power those old comptuers could draw. | Jan 28 01:44 |
| cubexyz | a 17 inch CRT used about 75 watts | Jan 28 01:44 |
| starstreak | yeah but thats 250 watts for a p3, im telling you i had a mobile core2duo doing 21.5 watts on linux, 4gb ram, nvidia gpu | Jan 28 01:44 |
| starstreak | core2duo probably does 4x the work | Jan 28 01:44 |
| cubexyz | it's no where near 250 watts | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 250 watts as max rating of the PSU unit. | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: no how much it using. | Jan 28 01:45 |
| starstreak | what does it actually use | Jan 28 01:45 |
| starstreak | each new intel cpu has added hours of battery life to laptops | Jan 28 01:45 |
| starstreak | so think about that kind of efficiency over time | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 16 watts to 40 watts for a pent III cpu depending on the version at full load. | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | less than 100 watts for the entire computer | Jan 28 01:46 |
| starstreak | would you carry around a pentium 3 notebook with you everywhere and hope the battery doesnt fail while you're working on something mobile for half an hour? | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | I think it was about 94.5 watts | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | headless | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe a bit less | Jan 28 01:47 |
| starstreak | yeah so already 5x more power than a core2duo that can do 4x more work (at least) | Jan 28 01:47 |
| starstreak | with a display to boot! | Jan 28 01:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: core2due is between 20 to 80 watts in cpu core. | Jan 28 01:48 |
| starstreak | i have a dell xps m1330, it has an intel core2duo 2.1ghz cpu and an nvidia gpu and a built in display | Jan 28 01:48 |
| starstreak | i measured the power using a device and it told me it was using 21.5watts | Jan 28 01:49 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so when looking at total power usage ignoring performance we have gone backwards. Note those figures are max load. | Jan 28 01:49 |
| starstreak | glxgears running, KDE, nvidia drivers | Jan 28 01:49 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 28 01:49 |
| oiaohm | basically pent 3 are not absolute pigs. If it was a pent 2 that would be another matter. | Jan 28 01:49 |
| starstreak | what can you even do on a pentium 3 | Jan 28 01:50 |
| starstreak | KDE itself uses a GB of ram and theres nothing wrong with that when most computers sell with 8 | Jan 28 01:50 |
| starstreak | firefox uses a GB of ram | Jan 28 01:50 |
| cubexyz | oh let's see... IRC... like I'm doing now | Jan 28 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Play quake using a nvidia tnt2 card . | Jan 28 01:50 |
| starstreak | 1080p videos, not working | Jan 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | starstreak, fuck off | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | quake at 1080p? no dice | Jan 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | can you process that? | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | nothing at 1080p | Jan 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | no one cares about your opinions | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | they dont even sell displays that arent 1080p | Jan 28 01:51 |
| oiaohm | quake at 1080 the first version looks like crap. | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | im even on welfare and my shit doesnt suck like yours | Jan 28 01:51 |
| oiaohm | quake is one of those games where you lower the resolution to make it look good than have 1080p monitor upscale. | Jan 28 01:52 |
| starstreak | you just gotta be good at finding deals and you wont be stuck on a p3 forever | Jan 28 01:52 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: i wouldnt play quake 1 unless they redid it in 1080p or higher | Jan 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | you changed your nick so you could argue you stupid fucker | Jan 28 01:52 |
| starstreak | resolution is one thing, you actually have to make the textures high res too | Jan 28 01:53 |
| starstreak | ad hominem? | Jan 28 01:53 |
| starstreak | i've been pretty civil cubexyz, i've insulted inanimate objects if anything | Jan 28 01:54 |
| starstreak | i haven't dealt into the realm of logical fallacies with the ad homimens, this girl doesnt play that way | Jan 28 01:54 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: this stupid the numbers say for us to get back to pent 3 power levels 7nm chips in x86. So you are about 2 years too soon to complain. | Jan 28 01:55 |
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| starstreak | pentium 3s are just single processors | Jan 28 01:56 |
| starstreak | 7nm chips will likely have 8 or more | Jan 28 01:56 |
| starstreak | someone who knew what they were doing would grab like a cheap ass AMD A8 system for a few hundred and hook thin clients up to virtual machines it hosts | Jan 28 01:57 |
| starstreak | I guess those pentium3's could make useful terminals to connect to a real computer | Jan 28 01:59 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: now exactly what is wrong with the AMD A8 system. Remember larger nm same complexity equals more power usage. Pent 3 is cheeper than current cpu due to lower complexity. | Jan 28 01:59 |
| starstreak | I would have the p3 RDP into a terminal server | Jan 28 01:59 |
| starstreak | you have it backwards | Jan 28 02:00 |
| oiaohm | AMD A8 there s a intel cpu at the same completity. but the intel cpu is lower nm. | Jan 28 02:00 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 28 02:00 |
| starstreak | but the intel version probably twice as much for cost | Jan 28 02:00 |
| starstreak | retail | Jan 28 02:01 |
| oiaohm | Basically more transistors more power usage. So lower transistor count lower power usage. nm sets about how much each transistor costs. | Jan 28 02:01 |
| starstreak | yeah i get it | Jan 28 02:01 |
| oiaohm | The current x86 cores have got so many times more complex than a pent 3 so a pent 3 producted at the same level of nm as current intel chips would be highly power effective. | Jan 28 02:02 |
| starstreak | but now im thinking locally just have the old computers run stuff off more powerful host machines | Jan 28 02:02 |
| starstreak | yeah it would but it wouldnt be able to render 1080p video | Jan 28 02:03 |
| starstreak | and you wouldnt be able to run 30 virtual machines on it | Jan 28 02:03 |
| oiaohm | 30 virtual machines is a question how many need that and do they need to be paying the complexity cost all the time. | Jan 28 02:04 |
| starstreak | i think it would be fun to see if i could p2v (physical 2 virtual conversion) all of cube's computers and then run them, and make clones, and more clones, and then run the latest doom | Jan 28 02:04 |
| starstreak | then measure the power and compare | Jan 28 02:04 |
| starstreak | i would probably still use less power | Jan 28 02:05 |
| oiaohm | With AMD and Intel starting to support GPU sharing with virtual machines under linux things are getting interesting. | Jan 28 02:05 |
| starstreak | you can do a lot more per watt | Jan 28 02:05 |
| oiaohm | how much you can do per watt is partly linked to how many instructions you can fit in ram as well. | Jan 28 02:06 |
| starstreak | yeah it will | Jan 28 02:06 |
| starstreak | virtual machines are amazing technology | Jan 28 02:06 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: well thanks for being rational at least | Jan 28 02:07 |
| starstreak | MarkBilk would have been chirping in about using pentium3's cuz of reptilian backdoors | Jan 28 02:07 |
| oiaohm | The problem is the ME backdoors are real. Intel getting the idea of build a network kvm into the ME chip and adding the ablity for ME to run JEFF files(being a form of java that is signed) does not make you feel safe. | Jan 28 02:10 |
| cubexyz | "starstreak" just comes in here to be a pest, there's no logic to it | Jan 28 02:10 |
| cubexyz | put him on ignore | Jan 28 02:10 |
| cubexyz | or better yet, kick him the fuck out | Jan 28 02:11 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: gets worse if you dig into ME you have the idea that intel had the ideal of selling the rights for companies to sell JEFF files that could be placed in firmware to allow the computer to be remotely deleted from the ME chip. | Jan 28 02:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so fear of what the ME chip could do is not illogical. | Jan 28 02:12 |
| starstreak | which will never happen | Jan 28 02:14 |
| starstreak | in most countries unauthorized network access is against the law | Jan 28 02:15 |
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| oiaohm | https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/04/18/intel-amt-remote-secure-erase << here is the feature | Jan 28 02:15 |
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| starstreak | yeah to let you erase your own computer in the event its stolen | Jan 28 02:15 |
| starstreak | great technology | Jan 28 02:15 |
| starstreak | if someone steals my computer, damn right im gonna brick it | Jan 28 02:16 |
| oiaohm | There have been a few cases where a person has bought computer second hand then had it bricked. | Jan 28 02:16 |
| starstreak | those are cases where the purchaser was a moron | Jan 28 02:16 |
| starstreak | or they bought it stolen and didnt know :P | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | happens with iphones all the time | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | i love it, and androids you can crack and recycle if you steal them | Jan 28 02:17 |
| oiaohm | Also a few cases when companies have donated machines then by mistake forgot to remove secure erase then bricked then as well. | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | i dont want some asshole who stole my phone to have the pleasure of using it | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | unintended consequences | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | human failure | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | if you allow unbricking, a theif will figure that out | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | There are third parties that provide secure erease in firmware. | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | i'd rather it just work | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | so it not exactly easy to be sure intel systems are clean. | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | all my macbooks and iOS shit is locked down with my icloud | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | neither are amd systems eitehr. | Jan 28 02:19 |
| starstreak | if someone took my iphone, it would remain locked unable to power down while i run to a web browser and GPS track it | Jan 28 02:19 |
| starstreak | same with my laptop except ATX standards kinda force you to be able to power it off | Jan 28 02:20 |
| cubexyz | GE nuclear power plants still use PDP-11s | Jan 28 02:21 |
| starstreak | it creates a pretty big market for iphone parts since criminals can't use any of the memory | Jan 28 02:21 |
| starstreak | which is soldiered on | Jan 28 02:22 |
| MinceR | at least microsoft crap won't run on PDP-11s | Jan 28 02:22 |
| MinceR | and neither will apple crap | Jan 28 02:22 |
| MinceR | so they can't spew fallout on us ;) | Jan 28 02:22 |
| starstreak | oh the digital dark age people | Jan 28 02:22 |
| cubexyz | they have to know those systems 100% | Jan 28 02:22 |
| cubexyz | no messing around | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | no its because they're so old radiation isn't a problem | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | so much lead | Jan 28 02:23 |
| MinceR | it's a pity this "i can know these systems 100%" is a thing of the past | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | its nothing to do with your free software religion | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | im sure the employees would love a computer that could run facebook in another window | Jan 28 02:24 |
| MinceR | what are you talking about? | Jan 28 02:25 |
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| starstreak | you wont find PDP11s running in Candu earthquake proof reactors | Jan 28 02:26 |
| starstreak | http://www.mapps.l-3com.com/candu-plant-control-systems.html | Jan 28 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mapps.l-3com.com | Candu Nuclear Power Plant Control Systems - L3 MAPPS | Jan 28 02:27 | |
| cubexyz | MinceR is right, you can't know the systems 100% because of the Intel ME being under strict NDA | Jan 28 02:29 |
| starstreak | intel still can't break the law | Jan 28 02:29 |
| cubexyz | the intel people will not talk about it, except in a general sense | Jan 28 02:30 |
| starstreak | they would need your permission to brick your CPU, and every canadian court judge would be against Intel doing it on their own | Jan 28 02:30 |
| starstreak | just like microsoft COULD spy on you, but it would be ILLEGAL | Jan 28 02:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | so naive | Jan 28 02:31 |
| starstreak | the press would love that | Jan 28 02:31 |
| starstreak | twitter would eat it up if it ever happened | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | for one thing, if they aren't caught, the courts and the press won't even hear of it | Jan 28 02:31 |
| starstreak | what makes you think they would? | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | for another thing, lawyers are among their primary expenses | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | they have you "sign" tons of legalese when you start using their crap, covering their ass | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | in Canada the lawyers cant do that shit | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | they still havent been able to sue any pirates | Jan 28 02:32 |
| MinceR | and they're in cahoots with various us government institutions operating on secret laws, secret interpretations and secret courts | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | if you believe in conspiracy theories like that then anyone is capable of anything | Jan 28 02:32 |
| MinceR | also, that same government is probably heavily backdoored by them already | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | so a global conspiracy? | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | and even if they were very hesitant to use these backdoors against you, that wouldn't prevent them from existing | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | you're working with an interesting definition of "global" there | Jan 28 02:33 |
| starstreak | well not every government is the same | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | indeed, the us government may very well have coerced or encouraged them to fill their crap with backdoors | Jan 28 02:33 |
| starstreak | so they've infiltrated all governments to backdoor computers? | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, not every government has the same power either | Jan 28 02:34 |
| starstreak | why backdoor computers when everyone posts their daily lives on social media and people throw away their computers after 2 years? | Jan 28 02:34 |
| starstreak | sounds rather silly and pointless | Jan 28 02:34 |
| MinceR | also, for some of these backdoors, they might even have some means of plausible deniability -- they could say it's just an unfortunate programming mistake that makes, say, Intel AMT available as a backdoor to an unauthorized intruder when it's supposed to be turned off | Jan 28 02:35 |
| starstreak | what are you doing thats so secret? | Jan 28 02:35 |
| starstreak | i think the NSA probably should be watching you | Jan 28 02:35 |
| MinceR | well, ask the NSA why they spend so much of the taxpayers' money on weakening and breaking systems the taxpayers rely on for their security and privacy | Jan 28 02:35 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter what you think, they're trying to watch everyone | Jan 28 02:36 |
| MinceR | and then struggling to figure out what to do with all the data they collect without aim | Jan 28 02:36 |
| starstreak | if you spend 99% of your computer time on irc, they dont need a backdoor, they got a roydoor | Jan 28 02:36 |
| starstreak | there are more efficient ways to spy on people | Jan 28 02:37 |
| MinceR | my irc client is not made by your favorite programmers, so it doesn't need 99% cpu time | Jan 28 02:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: what law is the question. Please note intel operations cross into many countries not all is it a crime to remote nuke contents of a computer they don't own. | Jan 28 02:37 |
| starstreak | in most countries "unauthorized computer access" is a crime | Jan 28 02:37 |
| MinceR | it would be nice if rule of law applied to rich people and megacorporations too, no doubt | Jan 28 02:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: but that is not every country intel operates in. | Jan 28 02:37 |
| starstreak | im in Canada, so they cant do it to me | Jan 28 02:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, and in most countries state institutions decide what crimes to prosecute | Jan 28 02:38 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: both countries it has to be illegal to push criminal charge. | Jan 28 02:38 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: source and desinsation. | Jan 28 02:38 |
| starstreak | intel has operations in canada | Jan 28 02:38 |
| starstreak | they would be answering for it | Jan 28 02:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's the way it works, doesn't it? | Jan 28 02:38 |
| MarkBilk | starstreak: "<starstreak> MarkBilk would have been chirping in about using pentium3's cuz of reptilian backdoors" | Jan 28 02:38 |
| starstreak | it does | Jan 28 02:38 |
| oiaohm | intel operations canada do not have to answer for intel operations done in another one of their country branches. | Jan 28 02:39 |
| starstreak | cuz i've gone to the human rights comission of ontario to go after my american head office | Jan 28 02:39 |
| starstreak | they had no problem doing so | Jan 28 02:39 |
| cubexyz | ah, starstreak is busy making more friends tonight :) | Jan 28 02:39 |
| cubexyz | maybe he can piss everyone off | Jan 28 02:39 |
| MinceR | seems more like he's busy daydreaming about how rule of law works everywhere | Jan 28 02:39 |
| MinceR | and how there's no corruption anywhere | Jan 28 02:40 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: and if it not the american head office. Please remember intel is a decentalised designed multi national. | Jan 28 02:40 |
| starstreak | what am I saying that would cause anger? | Jan 28 02:40 |
| MinceR | oh, that brings something to mind that i've read about recently | Jan 28 02:40 |
| starstreak | seems like a logical and rational debate | Jan 28 02:40 |
| MinceR | http://cphpost.dk/news/business/denmark-gets-worlds-first-digital-ambassador.html | Jan 28 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Denmark to appoint world’s first digital ambassador – The Post | Jan 28 02:40 | |
| MinceR | if this isn't institutionalized corruption then i wonder what is | Jan 28 02:40 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so legally intel can can attack just from the right office and there would be absolutely nothing you could do about it. | Jan 28 02:40 |
| starstreak | if you have to switch from debate mode into a barrage of personal attacks and insults, that might be mental illness | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MarkBilk | Doesn't worry me at all. Any reptilians that come out of my computer get a flamethrower up the keister! | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MinceR | what about the feds who come knocking to inquire about the flamethrower? | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MinceR | "it's to kill weeds in my lawn, as far as you know" | Jan 28 02:41 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: intel would get sued in canada, and since they do business in canada, their canadian subsidiary would be responsible for all of intel's actions in canada | Jan 28 02:41 |
| starstreak | the privacy comissioner has to investigate every case submitted | Jan 28 02:42 |
| starstreak | but this is Canada and yeah i get it, you people need to move here to enjoy freedom again | Jan 28 02:43 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the canadian subsidiary is a independent entity. This was found in the pentuim FOOF bug when some canada wanted compesnation for it. | Jan 28 02:43 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so case history says your idea is bogus. | Jan 28 02:43 |
| MinceR | if only laws regarding anticompetitive practices were enforced as conscientously as starstreak imagines | Jan 28 02:43 |
| MinceR | we would have no uefi, no microsoft tax | Jan 28 02:44 |
| starstreak | well the car in my driveway says american companies ARE liable for their actions in canada | Jan 28 02:44 |
| starstreak | :P | Jan 28 02:44 |
| MinceR | probably no microsoft either | Jan 28 02:44 |
| cubexyz | don't forget price fixing.... | Jan 28 02:44 |
| cubexyz | on memory chips, probably other ones as well | Jan 28 02:44 |
| starstreak | i reported an american based company for age discrimination on wages saying they paid older people more, and i won what bought me my car | Jan 28 02:45 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jan 28 02:45 |
| starstreak | so dont tell me what i've witnessed myself as canadian government agencies going after american companies successfully | Jan 28 02:45 |
| MinceR | the cost to them was probably insignificant next to their profits | Jan 28 02:45 |
| starstreak | learn from me | Jan 28 02:46 |
| starstreak | you dont get rights unless you fight for them | Jan 28 02:46 |
| MinceR | if i had a dollar from everyone who told me to ignore reality and listen to their ideas instead, i'd be a rich person | Jan 28 02:46 |
| starstreak | so no wonder you think theres a global conspiracy out to spy on you when nobody gives a fuck | Jan 28 02:46 |
| MinceR | no, you don't get rights unless you're rich and powerful | Jan 28 02:46 |
| starstreak | conspiracy theories again | Jan 28 02:46 |
| MinceR | can you explain what the conspiracy is? | Jan 28 02:47 |
| starstreak | CRTC in Canada just said all ISPS have to offer unlimited | Jan 28 02:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: key word is American Intel is not just American https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/50863/000119312512075534/d302695dex211.htm State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation list there is important. | Jan 28 02:47 |
| MinceR | or are you just throwing a word around without even knowing what it means? | Jan 28 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sec.gov | INTEL CORPORATION SUBSIDIARIES [ http://ur1.ca/qefd7 ] | Jan 28 02:47 | |
| starstreak | yeah you think all these rich and so called powerful people can't be stopped | Jan 28 02:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation lists the legal locations intel could be operating from. | Jan 28 02:47 |
| MinceR | oh, they can be stopped | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | that they are planning together | Jan 28 02:48 |
| MinceR | i didn't say they were planning together | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | its just a theory though | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | in reality, old people are just dumb | Jan 28 02:48 |
| MinceR | in reality, almost all people are dumb | Jan 28 02:48 |
| MinceR | regardless of age | Jan 28 02:48 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: as soon as you get into multi national companies doing cases against them is hard. | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | its the baby boomers, not the rich | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | rich people get fucked over by baby boomers too | Jan 28 02:49 |
| MinceR | depends on how rich they are | Jan 28 02:49 |
| starstreak | these people fly around the world to meet in person because they are technophobes who cant launch a simple video voip program | Jan 28 02:49 |
| starstreak | destroying the planet cause pushing a button is too hard | Jan 28 02:49 |
| oiaohm | There are reasons to meet in person. You find Linux conferences doing security key sharing in person. | Jan 28 02:50 |
| starstreak | stop looking at wealth and start looking at age and you'll start to see the real conspiracies | Jan 28 02:50 |
| MinceR | pay no attention to the man behind the curtain | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | the man behind the curtain | Jan 28 02:51 |
| MinceR | so, what are some of these "real conspiracies"? | Jan 28 02:51 |
| oiaohm | Using a simple voip program that is too simple could end up doing it unencrypted so leaking what you are doing to the world. | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | keywords man: old, white, baby boomer | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | old people who conspire together as part of the "old boys club" | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | you mistake them as rich cuz some are | Jan 28 02:51 |
| MinceR | to do what? | Jan 28 02:52 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: sorry some business men avoid technology for things not because they are technophobes but because they understand security risk. | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | all the shit you are blaming the rich and powerful on | Jan 28 02:52 |
| MinceR | so very specific | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | they're rich cuz their old and powerful cuz of their networking with others their age | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | and their hate for younger people | Jan 28 02:52 |
| MinceR | so you're saying that the people running these corrupt megacorporations are not the people who own them, but random old people? | Jan 28 02:52 |
| MinceR | that's interesting | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | no | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | some happen to be running megacorps | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | some make nothing working as a politician | Jan 28 02:53 |
| MinceR | which happen to be involved in some well documented business that infringes on human rights, rule of law, security, etc. | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | some just want to keep taxes low so their pension payouts are higher | Jan 28 02:53 |
| MarkBilk | Any idea who the "starstreak" troll is? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | troll? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| cubexyz | someone give me ops :) | Jan 28 02:53 |
| MinceR | you do realize that a politician has other sources of wealth than their official salary from the government, right? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | what have i done wrong? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | have an opinion? | Jan 28 02:54 |
| starstreak | or cuz im a trans woman? | Jan 28 02:54 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: why suspected troll is lot of things are lack of research. Like icloud has been beaten a few times. Apple runs around doing DCMA take downs on the tools. | Jan 28 02:55 |
| MarkBilk | Who knows what you are? | Jan 28 02:55 |
| starstreak | nothing in computers are totally secure | Jan 28 02:55 |
| MinceR | and who cares? | Jan 28 02:55 |
| cubexyz | we don't | Jan 28 02:55 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: but there are levels of security. | Jan 28 02:55 |
| MinceR | we're not crybullies, we're not alt-reich (afaik) so we don't care | Jan 28 02:56 |
| starstreak | "omg apple has had security exploits" | Jan 28 02:56 |
| starstreak | like linux hasnt | Jan 28 02:56 |
| MinceR | apple has built-in backdoors at least in ios, probably also macos by now | Jan 28 02:56 |
| MinceR | hell, customers don't have effective admin rights on apple mobile devices and apple does | Jan 28 02:56 |
| starstreak | and the FBI had to hire McAfee to get into the san bernadino phone | Jan 28 02:56 |
| MinceR | now even microsoft can push arbitrary code to be executed to windows 10 any time and this is well documented | Jan 28 02:57 |
| cubexyz | I care about repairability, programming, data sheets, & source code | Jan 28 02:57 |
| MinceR | no, the FBI was trying to get a precedent, to make things easier and cheaper for them | Jan 28 02:57 |
| MinceR | and apple tried to play the great privacy heroes while trying to save costs | Jan 28 02:57 |
| starstreak | at the end of the day, Apple wasn't a government backdoor :P | Jan 28 02:57 |
| starstreak | if they were, FBI wouldnt have had to go to court | Jan 28 02:58 |
| MinceR | actually they would still go to court if that's the way to ensure that they get the backdoor used for their needs _every_ time | Jan 28 02:58 |
| MinceR | not the same as having to ask apple for a favor every time | Jan 28 02:58 |
| starstreak | you've said they already have a backdoor for their every time needs | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | (which they can do privately, by the way) | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | apple does | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | including every company | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | i don't know who else does | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | they all have backdoors | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | they may well let the NSA use it freely | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | everything has backdoors, exploits and security bugs | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | but the FBI is not the NSA | Jan 28 02:59 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: not true. | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | yes its true | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | also, there are algorithms (like Dual_EC_DRBG) that were backdoored by the NSA | Jan 28 03:00 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: tell me a back door in sel4 | Jan 28 03:00 |
| starstreak | if you've worked in computer security, you know that all that is required is time and money | Jan 28 03:00 |
| MinceR | the NSA did approach Linus to put a backdoor in Linux, he refused | Jan 28 03:00 |
| MinceR | (as far as we know, anyway) | Jan 28 03:00 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: come on you said everything has backdoors. I have named a OS without one. | Jan 28 03:00 |
| MinceR | then they apparently went to red hat to have them come up with systemd instead | Jan 28 03:00 |
| starstreak | if sel4 doesnt, whatever its connected to would | Jan 28 03:01 |
| starstreak | routers, switches | Jan 28 03:01 |
| MinceR | routers and switches do not have the same level of access, even if they're backdoored | Jan 28 03:01 |
| starstreak | theres so many backdoors on devices carrying your data it would be mentally unhealthy to worry about it all | Jan 28 03:01 |
| MinceR | now a baseband processor in a mobile device that has full DMA access to the main RAM, on the other hand... | Jan 28 03:01 |
| cubexyz | you can reprogram the firmware on some routers | Jan 28 03:01 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://sel4.systems/ what sel4 is made for is making routers and switches that are not flawed. | Jan 28 03:01 |
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| MinceR | see, this is why it would be nice to be able to have computers we can know and understand in every detail | Jan 28 03:02 |
| starstreak | and people only buy cisco | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | dumb people, maybe | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | cisco's approach to security is a joke | Jan 28 03:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: its possible to make very secure stuff but it costs lots of resources. | Jan 28 03:02 |
| starstreak | people who want to make money | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | i wonder how using flawed and insecure products generates revenue | Jan 28 03:02 |
| starstreak | computers are throwaway devices | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | yours are, probably | Jan 28 03:03 |
| MinceR | for most consumers, computers are appliances | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | the data is what matters | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | why does the computer matter | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | its obsolete in 3 months | Jan 28 03:03 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the arguement that everything is flawed is an excuse not to ask for mathematically secure. | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | right but dont assume you're shit is secure | Jan 28 03:04 |
| MinceR | and once you throw out the computer, you may find out that the next one can't decode your data | Jan 28 03:04 |
| starstreak | anyone who wanted to spy on you, can, and will | Jan 28 03:04 |
| MinceR | obviously you shouldn't assume | Jan 28 03:04 |
| starstreak | i think the twittersphere would blow up if people suddenly couldnt own a computer that could decode text files | Jan 28 03:05 |
| starstreak | the linux world didnt end with UEFI Secure boot, it ended with nutjobs like you | Jan 28 03:06 |
| starstreak | Redhat is pushing UEFI secure boot enabled RHEL and its amazing | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | all your data are text files? | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | >calls people nutjobs randomly | Jan 28 03:06 |
| starstreak | my important shit is | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | >can't understand why people call him a troll | Jan 28 03:06 |
| starstreak | mbox is just text | Jan 28 03:06 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, don't you have ops? | Jan 28 03:07 |
| MinceR | at least you finally revealed why you're here | Jan 28 03:07 |
| starstreak | my first personal attack of tonight | Jan 28 03:07 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i do, but i can't really use them | Jan 28 03:07 |
| MinceR | starstreak: no, not the first | Jan 28 03:07 |
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| MinceR | starstreak: perhaps you don't realize that your idols have not shut the doors on restricted boot yet, just made it more difficult to use with every major windows release | Jan 28 03:07 |
| starstreak | cubexyz: why do you have this need to silence me from everyone else? | Jan 28 03:08 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: Redhat has had to push very had to undo the first UEFI design Lot of work redhat has got it so we can change the PK on uefi systems. | Jan 28 03:08 |
| starstreak | its probably a good thing to russel this echo camber up once in a while | Jan 28 03:08 |
| MinceR | you should have read the public logs, then you'd know this is not an echo chamber | Jan 28 03:09 |
| starstreak | i learned sometimes its useful to have shit like p3s kicking around for some niche shit | Jan 28 03:09 |
| MinceR | interesting, you just attacked someone for having the audacity to have some p3s around | Jan 28 03:09 |
| starstreak | echo chamber, sorry, meant a circle jerk | Jan 28 03:09 |
| MinceR | now you're just throwing shit at the wall | Jan 28 03:10 |
| starstreak | attacked? i said he was killing the planet | Jan 28 03:10 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: you started with a personal attack. | Jan 28 03:10 |
| MinceR | trying to find what you get kickbanned for | Jan 28 03:10 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the fact he was not killing the planet you did not understand all the fact and then you did not say sorry. | Jan 28 03:10 |
| MinceR | starstreak: you do realize that once your beloved redhat manages to destroy unix, microsoft will just lock out the keys redhat has bought, right? | Jan 28 03:10 |
| starstreak | if im getting kickbanned is cubexyz too? | Jan 28 03:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz is not trolling, you are | Jan 28 03:11 |
| starstreak | how am i trolling | Jan 28 03:11 |
| MinceR | besides, we have a tradition of keeping trolls around | Jan 28 03:11 |
| starstreak | im not trying to make people mad | Jan 28 03:11 |
| starstreak | if a debate makes you mad thats not healthy | Jan 28 03:11 |
| cubexyz | I think after a certain point a 24-hour ban is appropriate | Jan 28 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Redhat bought keys because they had no choice to do business. Places like Debian are still have trouble. | Jan 28 03:11 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: have you seen the conditions microsoft puts on signing firmware loaders. | Jan 28 03:12 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: debian can use the linux foundations key | Jan 28 03:12 |
| MinceR | a debate is one thing, shitslinging is another | Jan 28 03:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so you have not. | Jan 28 03:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: do the wrong things Microsoft will revoke the signing. | Jan 28 03:12 |
| MinceR | so you don't see what's wrong with paying microsoft for the right to have your code boot somewhat easier on uefi appliances, do you? | Jan 28 03:12 |
| oiaohm | This is why replacing the PK and installing you own KEK is so important. | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | (or letting them be the gatekeeper of them in the first place) | Jan 28 03:13 |
| starstreak | they arent the gatekeeper | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | no, this is why uefi should die | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | yes they are | Jan 28 03:13 |
| starstreak | they are not | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | so why did redhat and canonical pay them? | Jan 28 03:13 |
| starstreak | i just bought a lenovo server for a township deployment that came with no keys | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | and why do they get to dictate what uefi is like on what used to be pcs? | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jan 28 03:14 |
| starstreak | i have to install the OS and then it can get keys from that | Jan 28 03:14 |
| starstreak | so microsoft had nothing to do with that UEFI implementation | Jan 28 03:14 |
| MinceR | go tell redhat and canonical, maybe they can get a refund | Jan 28 03:15 |
| starstreak | theres nothing wrong with UEFI or secure boot, and most companies like ASUS and Gigabyte who make motherboards for PCs dont give a shit what microsoft thinks | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | (and apparently the Linux-destroying Foundation too) | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | so you keep insisting | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | without any evidence | Jan 28 03:15 |
| starstreak | i build computers every day | Jan 28 03:15 |
| starstreak | every bios has had custom keys, or the ability to disable secure boot | Jan 28 03:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot the worst bit is to get a shim signed by Microsoft you have to run Microsoft windows to upload. | Jan 28 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | SecureBoot - Debian Wiki | Jan 28 03:15 | |
| MinceR | and you think putting hardware modules together has enlightened you on how the internals work? | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | nice, another spit in the face of competition | Jan 28 03:16 |
| starstreak | well if you invent conspiracy theories you cant prove i guess you can apply them to everything | Jan 28 03:16 |
| MinceR | why don't you put more effort into your insults? | Jan 28 03:16 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: yes every bios has custom keys option but they do it differently. | Jan 28 03:16 |
| starstreak | show me Microsofts contract with ASUS and Gigabyte | Jan 28 03:16 |
| MinceR | a markov model could do better work than you | Jan 28 03:16 |
| MinceR | it seems to me redhat isn't getting their money's worth | Jan 28 03:16 |
| starstreak | if you think thats an insult you're more of a princess than I am | Jan 28 03:17 |
| MinceR | well, at least that's a bit more imaginative | Jan 28 03:17 |
| MinceR | still, no substance | Jan 28 03:17 |
| starstreak | oh well im not trying to insult you | Jan 28 03:17 |
| starstreak | i got triggered by "p3" cuz im trying to save the planet | Jan 28 03:18 |
| MinceR | from whom? | Jan 28 03:18 |
| cubexyz | new Intel CPUS: "They come with Intel Boot Guard and you are won't be able to boot anything which is unsigned and not approved by OEM. This means the OEM are fusing SHA256 public key hashes into the southbridge" | Jan 28 03:18 |
| MinceR | people who'd like to have a computer that obeys them and only them? | Jan 28 03:19 |
| cubexyz | so people will be locked out of coreboot or alternative firmware | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | so why not buy ARM | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | MIPS | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | PPC | Jan 28 03:19 |
| MinceR | ARM devices also tend to be locked down | Jan 28 03:19 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: again commenting without information. | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | you can get unlocked arm devices fairly easy | Jan 28 03:19 |
| cubexyz | intel boot guard was a 4th gen thing (Haswell) | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | they would also handle 1080p video unlike a p3 | Jan 28 03:19 |
| MinceR | i'm planning to try to build a computer with an FPGA | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | i wasnt suggesting throwing away a p3 to buy an i7 with windows 10 and shit | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | a raspi would crush a p3 | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | im sure hes just using desktop stuff | Jan 28 03:20 |
| MinceR | rpi-s are pretty great, i'm typing on one | Jan 28 03:20 |
| MinceR | but they're not perfect | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | yeah they're awesome | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | and not 100 watts | Jan 28 03:20 |
| MinceR | they still have nonfree firmware, afaik | Jan 28 03:21 |
| cubexyz | some of the chinese FPGA's have backdoors I'm sorry to say | Jan 28 03:21 |
| oiaohm | raspi still have stablitity issues. | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | though people are working on that too | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: how sophisticated are they? | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: perhaps their effect could be mitigated | Jan 28 03:21 |
| oiaohm | and raspi have black boxes including really strange things like the raspi equal to me chip being the GPU. | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | (or i'll just have to have ASICs manufactured someday...) | Jan 28 03:21 |
| starstreak | rraspi is popular | Jan 28 03:21 |
| starstreak | there are other super chinese arm devices with killer hardware | Jan 28 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Popular and sanely designed don't always align. | Jan 28 03:22 |
| starstreak | im sure linux runs my goluk | Jan 28 03:22 |
| cubexyz | some stuff is really buried deep, that's why folks are talking about decapping and xraying chips nowadays | Jan 28 03:22 |
| MinceR | most SBCs have far worse support than rpi-s | Jan 28 03:22 |
| MinceR | i have a CubieTruck but i can't get it to run 1080p | Jan 28 03:22 |
| MinceR | it just crashes with a screen full of random pixels | Jan 28 03:22 |
| cubexyz | there's a whole CPU buried in some motherboards that people don't even know about | Jan 28 03:22 |
| starstreak | i got this "Goluk Super Fun Dashcam" and it has a built in wifi router and records in 1080p constantly on a loop | Jan 28 03:23 |
| starstreak | probably runs on one of those ASICs | Jan 28 03:23 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, it was one of the military grade FPGAs | Jan 28 03:23 |
| cubexyz | Actel/Microsemi ProASIC3 chip specifically | Jan 28 03:23 |
| oiaohm | This is a fun device https://www.crowdsupply.com/numato-lab/opsis | Jan 28 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Numato Opsis: FPGA-based open video platform | Crowd Supply | Jan 28 03:23 | |
| MinceR | yeah, looks nice | Jan 28 03:24 |
| oiaohm | Ok not a PC but open source conference got sick of the video capture and retransmit devices failing mid confernce so made their own. | Jan 28 03:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 03:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes 2 1080p in with 2 1080 out. | Jan 28 03:25 |
| starstreak | i love this | Jan 28 03:25 |
| starstreak | https://wifipineapple.com/ | Jan 28 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wifipineapple.com | WiFi Pineapple - Home | Jan 28 03:25 | |
| cubexyz | anyways, you probably want to avoid the Actel ProASIC3 one | Jan 28 03:25 |
| cubexyz | sometimes it's not malicious | Jan 28 03:26 |
| cubexyz | "we forgot about that debugging backdoor" | Jan 28 03:26 |
| cubexyz | still... | Jan 28 03:26 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 03:26 |
| starstreak | they probably did forget | Jan 28 03:27 |
| starstreak | humans afterall | Jan 28 03:27 |
| MinceR | how well can an FPGA backdoor work if it's configured in a way the designers of the backdoor didn't know in advance? | Jan 28 03:28 |
| starstreak | i would give them the benefit of the doubt unless it happened again | Jan 28 03:28 |
| MinceR | say, with some sort of free software SoC design, with potential modifications | Jan 28 03:28 |
| cubexyz | only the original designers would really know | Jan 28 03:30 |
| cubexyz | the designers of the FPGA that is | Jan 28 03:31 |
| oiaohm | This is where it comes hard with FPGA you have to worry about complier. the opsis end up not using any of the makers library of template code for the FPGA mostly because those turn out to be strangely oversized. | Jan 28 03:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 03:32 |
| MinceR | afaik there is a free software compiler (or equivalent) for FPGA | Jan 28 03:32 |
| oiaohm | opsis is covered in the LCA2017 conference videos. | Jan 28 03:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: for some FPGA yes like icestorm. | Jan 28 03:32 |
| MinceR | https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/getting-started-with-fpga-with-only-free-and-open-source-software-and-hardware-tools-tutorial/ | Jan 28 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olimex.wordpress.com | Getting started with FPGA with only Free and Open source software and hardware tools tutorial | olimex [ http://ur1.ca/qefm7 ] | Jan 28 03:32 | |
| cubexyz | and I think the FPGA could always be reprogrammed every time it's turned on | Jan 28 03:33 |
| MinceR | is that necessary? | Jan 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | the FPGA bitstream has to be reloaded from the EEPROM every time power is applied | Jan 28 03:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | I think you might want a CPLD instead | Jan 28 03:35 |
| cubexyz | but the question is, how powerful will it be? | Jan 28 03:35 |
| MinceR | i don't know the internals of FPGAs and CPLDs too well | Jan 28 03:36 |
| MinceR | the idea would be to build a free software general purpose computer on them | Jan 28 03:36 |
| cubexyz | but I know the CPLD is non-volatile | Jan 28 03:36 |
| MinceR | with enough power to run contemporary free unixes, X, applications, etc. | Jan 28 03:37 |
| MinceR | though the steps that lead to this would be simpler and lower powered | Jan 28 03:37 |
| MinceR | a big realization for me was that the non-IC-based computer i read about was so big and yet so slow | Jan 28 03:40 |
| MinceR | forgot the name | Jan 28 03:40 |
| MinceR | but it seemed to follow that i would need to rely on ICs if i were to build a practical computer | Jan 28 03:40 |
| cubexyz | depends on what you what | Jan 28 03:41 |
| cubexyz | if the idea is just understanding you could go down to the logic gate level | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | >CPLDs typically have the equivalent of thousands to tens of thousands of logic gates | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it would be enough | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | well, part of it is understanding | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | but part of it is having a general purpose computer that is backdoorless with a high confidence | Jan 28 03:42 |
| cubexyz | some bad hat hacker could possibly KO your FPGA and that would suck | Jan 28 03:42 |
| MinceR | how? | Jan 28 03:42 |
| cubexyz | not sure how, but it's non permanent | Jan 28 03:42 |
| cubexyz | like a black hat could maybe erase your BIOS chip | Jan 28 03:43 |
| MinceR | also, maybe some processes could be farmed out to untrusted devices, but i haven't figured any of that out yet | Jan 28 03:43 |
| cubexyz | but I guess you could just reprogram it again | Jan 28 03:43 |
| MinceR | hopefully i can either integrate a switch/jumper of some sort to make it readonly | Jan 28 03:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember you can put a write protect switch on a FPGA flash. | Jan 28 03:44 |
| MinceR | or just require taking it out of the socket for programming | Jan 28 03:44 |
| cubexyz | is there a physical switch, or is it just software? | Jan 28 03:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: board design some fpga boards have a physical switch some don't. | Jan 28 03:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: biggest issue with FPGA is lack of speed like 100Mhz cpu is kind pushing it. | Jan 28 03:45 |
| MinceR | that could be difficult to work with | Jan 28 03:45 |
| cubexyz | 100 mhz is good enough for a lot of things though | Jan 28 03:46 |
| cubexyz | IRC, email, any ncurses program | Jan 28 03:46 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 28 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Note I said 100mhz is kinda pushing it more back around 30 to 50mhz in less effective cpu designs. | Jan 28 03:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 17.04 Opt-In Flavors Finally Get Their Alpha...' | Jan 28 03:50 | |
| cubexyz | you could build a computer from TTL chips | Jan 28 04:01 |
| cubexyz | e.g. SN7400 has 4 NAND gates | Jan 28 04:01 |
| cubexyz | that's pretty low level | Jan 28 04:02 |
| cubexyz | you could even make a logic gate from transistors | Jan 28 04:02 |
| cubexyz | but I'd draw the line at the IC level | Jan 28 04:03 |
| cubexyz | that's early 1970s era | Jan 28 04:06 |
| cubexyz | you want to learn stuff one interesting simulator is Atanua | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | http://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&wihttp://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=falsedth=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | oops sorry | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | http://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false | Jan 28 04:20 |
| cubexyz | better link: | Jan 28 04:20 |
| cubexyz | http://sol.gfxile.net/atanua/index.html | Jan 28 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sol.gfxile.net | Atanua - About | Jan 28 04:20 | |
| cubexyz | maybe there's a FOSS one somewhere | Jan 28 04:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 04:21 |
| cubexyz | http://alternativeto.net/software/digital-logic-design/ | Jan 28 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digital Logic Design Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net [ http://ur1.ca/qefvs ] | Jan 28 04:21 | |
| cubexyz | here's one that works in the browser: | Jan 28 04:25 |
| cubexyz | http://www.neuroproductions.be/logic-lab/ | Jan 28 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neuroproductions.be | The Logic Lab: simulating simple circuits of logic gates [ http://ur1.ca/qefwk ] | Jan 28 04:25 | |
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| MinceR | https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6OInpdIqucs/WIvR2YAOmeI/AAAAAAAAbrs/53-HO261B_kaeW0u2SxC2XVeybZJ4XPWACPcB/s1600/Directions%2Bunclear%2B-%2Bbuilt%2Bwall%2Bmade%2Bof%2Billegal%2Bimmigrants.png | Jan 28 04:47 |
| starstreak | Does anyone here have a security certifciation? | Jan 28 04:52 |
| ---starstreak is now known as ender2070 | Jan 28 04:52 | |
| MinceR | well, i suppose i do | Jan 28 04:53 |
| ender2070 | seriously? | Jan 28 04:54 |
| ender2070 | cuz then you would have packet logs of microsoft and apple doing evil shit right? | Jan 28 04:55 |
| MinceR | it does not follow | Jan 28 04:55 |
| MinceR | my special (dunno if that's the right term) at university was Security of Information and Communication Systems; and i also have some certification related to an IT security product i worked on | Jan 28 04:56 |
| MinceR | that said, some of the evil shit microsoft and apple did is pretty damn public | Jan 28 04:56 |
| ender2070 | packet logs or it didn't happen | Jan 28 04:57 |
| MinceR | hell, some of them they had you sign they had the right to do when you first used their crap | Jan 28 04:57 |
| MinceR | like the stuff on updating DRM mechanisms in the winblows EULA | Jan 28 04:57 |
| MinceR | there was some (surprisingly minor) outrage about Backdoors10 having no way to opt out of 'updates' for consumer versions | Jan 28 04:58 |
| MinceR | which is, again, arbitrary code execution | Jan 28 04:58 |
| *ender2070 gets popcorn | Jan 28 04:58 | |
| MinceR | and hypeOS also had some mechanism to push code, iirc | Jan 28 04:58 |
| MinceR | (it was longer ago, so the details are not quite clear) | Jan 28 04:59 |
| MinceR | baseband processors' ability to function at least in theory as a backdoor is also documented | Jan 28 04:59 |
| MinceR | iirc there was something concrete about some samsung stuff | Jan 28 04:59 |
| ender2070 | samsung powers the majority of android devices currently claiming smartphone marketshare over apple | Jan 28 05:00 |
| MinceR | ikr | Jan 28 05:00 |
| MinceR | basically if the baseband processor can do DMA to the RAM you run applications from (which seems to be desirable for fast internet connections), you can't trust that device too much | Jan 28 05:00 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jan 28 05:00 |
| ender2070 | what if you aren't a terrorist? | Jan 28 05:01 |
| MinceR | my practice regarding this is to have it tether (over WiFi or USB) to a laptop or non-3G tablet and run the sensitive stuff on that | Jan 28 05:01 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Jan 28 05:01 |
| MinceR | they'll proclaim you to be a terrorist when it's convenient for them to do so | Jan 28 05:01 |
| ender2070 | there is 7 billion people on earth | Jan 28 05:01 |
| ender2070 | why would the NSA give a shit unless you're a terrorist? | Jan 28 05:02 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jan 28 05:02 |
| MinceR | they've been accused of doing stuff like insider trading | Jan 28 05:02 |
| ender2070 | yeah but some random dude in europe is a threat that needs to be watched? | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | the official excuse might be something like using 'Big Data' to find out _if_ you're a terrorist | Jan 28 05:03 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | they seem to be trying to watch everyone | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | and afaik it isn't really working out in practice | Jan 28 05:03 |
| ender2070 | there are a lot more people higher up in the list than you | Jan 28 05:03 |
| ender2070 | i actually feel bad for the NSA | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | the point is, they aren't going through a list when it comes to many of the evil shit they do | Jan 28 05:04 |
| ender2070 | im sure its someones job to sit on youtube all day watching cat videos looking for terrorist "code messages" | Jan 28 05:04 |
| MinceR | it isn't even applicable to trying to weaken the security of stuff we use | Jan 28 05:04 |
| MinceR | (Dual_EC_DRBG, systemd) | Jan 28 05:04 |
| ender2070 | they dont have the computational power to watch 7 billion 24/7 | Jan 28 05:04 |
| MinceR | they do have the computational power to watch a lot of network connections and dump it all into storage | Jan 28 05:05 |
| MinceR | and they do have the leverage to coerce people into compromising security | Jan 28 05:05 |
| ender2070 | which 98% of is already on facebook | Jan 28 05:05 |
| MinceR | well yeah, don't use facebook | Jan 28 05:05 |
| ender2070 | well the people who post on facebook expect it to be public | Jan 28 05:05 |
| MinceR | or not | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | depends on the people | Jan 28 05:06 |
| ender2070 | or they are naive on their privacy settings | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | afaik there's still alleged functionality to post things that are only visible to a smaller group of people | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | and most users aren't IT professionals | Jan 28 05:06 |
| ender2070 | thats why i said 98% | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | afaik the privacy settings have a way of changing from time to time | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | (at least people have complained about it) | Jan 28 05:06 |
| ender2070 | 1% is IT pros, 1% is the paranoid | Jan 28 05:07 |
| ender2070 | you know in Canada, its 100% for me personally to record everything im involved with and i dont need permission? | Jan 28 05:08 |
| MinceR | and of course, things like 'the user asked us to keep this private' isn't going to stop an organization which has much of its legal environment tailored to its needs | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | 100% legal for me* | Jan 28 05:08 |
| MinceR | (secret laws, secret interpretations, secret courts) | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | depends on the country | Jan 28 05:08 |
| MinceR | probably doesn't vary that much within the Five Eyes | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | maybe im lucky im in Canada | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | even the right wingers in Canada respect privacy laws | Jan 28 05:09 |
| MinceR | they pretty much spy on each others' citizens to get around regulations saying they're not allowed to spy on their own citizens | Jan 28 05:09 |
| ender2070 | you would accuse our right wingers of being socialists | Jan 28 05:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, they pay lip service to it | Jan 28 05:09 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't, i'm not usian | Jan 28 05:09 |
| ender2070 | well thats true too | Jan 28 05:09 |
| ender2070 | Canada can't spy on its own people but USA, UK, Australia can | Jan 28 05:10 |
| ender2070 | assuming nobody catches them | Jan 28 05:10 |
| ender2070 | Canada is unique in that it actually follows its own laws | Jan 28 05:11 |
| ender2070 | it sets up government agencies that have the power to actually do stuff to other government agencies that mess up | Jan 28 05:11 |
| MinceR | oh, also, while we're on the topic of state institutions using trickery to pretend they're obeying the law when they aren't -- consider also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction | Jan 28 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Parallel construction - Wikipedia | Jan 28 05:11 | |
| MinceR | did Canada follow its own laws when Harper got some police officers get out of doing illegal things unscathed? | Jan 28 05:12 |
| ender2070 | Canada isnt perfect but lobbyists are heavily restricted from giving money to politicians | Jan 28 05:12 |
| MinceR | did Canada follow its own laws when Harper muzzled scientists on government money? | Jan 28 05:12 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jan 28 05:13 |
| MinceR | including whatever is Canada's equivalent of the Constitution? | Jan 28 05:13 |
| ender2070 | no law required government to fund scientists who purposely gave misleading info to journalists to drum up panick for grant money | Jan 28 05:13 |
| MinceR | 28 061239 < MinceR> did Canada follow its own laws when Harper got some police officers get out of doing illegal things unscathed? | Jan 28 05:13 |
| ender2070 | government grants are not an entitlement | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | oh, i forgot that he did this _retroactively_ | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | retroactive lawmaking is incompatible with the idea of rule of law | Jan 28 05:14 |
| ender2070 | we got rid of Harper | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, and has Useless Justin undone anything about what he did? | Jan 28 05:14 |
| ender2070 | we dont like politicians who do that | Jan 28 05:14 |
| ender2070 | Justin has enough problems to fix from Harper | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | he had an awful lot of terms in office for that | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | harper, i mean | Jan 28 05:15 |
| ender2070 | it was his last term when stuff came out | Jan 28 05:15 |
| ender2070 | and we voted him out | Jan 28 05:15 |
| MinceR | i seem to remember differently, but whatever | Jan 28 05:15 |
| ender2070 | i actually live in canada | Jan 28 05:15 |
| MinceR | well, you're not the only canadian who chats around here | Jan 28 05:16 |
| MinceR | (i'm not canadian, though) | Jan 28 05:16 |
| ender2070 | cubexyz, prurigro, xface | Jan 28 05:16 |
| ender2070 | prurigro and xface would be on my side and cubexyz would need his meds | Jan 28 05:16 |
| MinceR | that's an interesting way of categorizing people | Jan 28 05:17 |
| ender2070 | cubexyz drinks the everything is a conspiracy against open hardware and free software, and prurigro and xface are a more pragmatic "the right tool for the job" type | Jan 28 05:18 |
| ender2070 | free software koolaid* | Jan 28 05:18 |
| MinceR | ah, so preferring untrustworthy broken crap for a job is "pragmatic" | Jan 28 05:18 |
| MinceR | well, i guess some people enjoy putting the broken pieces together | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | at the end of the day: how much time did you spend and how much money did you make? | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | everything else is a bonus | Jan 28 05:19 |
| MinceR | at the end of the day, a lot of my computer usage is not about making money | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | thats good for you I guess | Jan 28 05:19 |
| MinceR | you're also forgetting the amount of damage to your nervous system | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | i get more damage to my nervous system from transphobic rednecks | Jan 28 05:20 |
| MinceR | i.e. trying to get outlook and exchange do the right thing at work and then working around their inability to do so | Jan 28 05:20 |
| MinceR | s/i.e./e.g./ | Jan 28 05:20 |
| ender2070 | bloated peices of shit | Jan 28 05:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | problem is I can't find anything better | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | i can, and have | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | but my client couldn't be arsed to use anything standard | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | whats better than imap and exchange? | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | actual imap and some sane mail server daemons | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | i said | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | (not what m$ calls "imap" or whatever) | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | whats better than imap and exchange? | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | imap and exchange suck | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | (also, you're lucky if they actually enable "imap" on exchange and tell you the parameters) | Jan 28 05:22 |
| ender2070 | exchange is less worse than imap cuz it supports contacts and calanders without caldav and webdav bullshit | Jan 28 05:22 |
| ender2070 | and random broken third party plugins | Jan 28 05:22 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much that helps when exchange decides to "deliver" your mail to your Trash folder | Jan 28 05:22 |
| MinceR | (did that to me for weeks) | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | (and at the end, exchange and outlook together decided to delete it all) | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | that sucks | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | but it all sucks | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | that's microsoft | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | ever use gmail and imap? | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | and it's to be expected when they realize that spending the money on corruption, lawyers and ads is more profitable than spending it on software engineers | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | tagging causes imap folder duplicates up the ass | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | i have | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | i haven't used folders that much in gmail, though | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | i did end up with duplicate mail in other ways, though | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | they autotag shit too | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if they autotagged back then | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | when i moved off gmail, imap and their stupid tags made me want to punch stuff | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | still, i'll take duplicate mail over irrecoverably nuked mail any day | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | not to mention what the morons in redmond believe about mail threading | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | i had to log into gmail, move everything into my inbox and switch to pop3 to reliably get everything off gmail | Jan 28 05:25 |
| ender2070 | then imported into claws-mail and ran the duplicate remover | Jan 28 05:25 |
| ender2070 | i've only had problems with outlook and exchange with users who think its gmail and have unlimited mailbox sizes lol | Jan 28 05:26 |
| ender2070 | "my computer runs really slow" "oh you have a 6GB OST cache of your exchange mailbox...." | Jan 28 05:26 |
| ender2070 | they really should replace pop3, imap and exchange with something standardized and better | Jan 28 05:27 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | though i don't get why a large local copy of a mailbox on disk should be that much of a catastrophe | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | unless they just fucked up the database format | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | like feed readers do | Jan 28 05:28 |
| ender2070 | At least Apple uses standardized mbox files for its mail app | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | i prefer Maildir | Jan 28 05:29 |
| ender2070 | each message is its own file? | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | yes | Jan 28 05:29 |
| ender2070 | thats useful too | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | with some metadata in the filename | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | and atomic operations ensured by the filesystem | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | but yeah, i'll take mbox over microsoft's nonstandard binary mess any day | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | i only liked PST cuz its 1 file | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | mbox is pretty close | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | 1 file per folder | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | if you've ever watched file transfers its always faster to transfer 1 large file vs 1 million small files | Jan 28 05:31 |
| ender2070 | i like apple's photo database idea but wish it was an open format | Jan 28 05:31 |
| ender2070 | copying photos always takes longer than it should | Jan 28 05:32 |
| MinceR | sure, but most of the usage is not transferring the mailbox | Jan 28 05:32 |
| ender2070 | yup | Jan 28 05:32 |
| MinceR | of course, if you wanted to optimize for this, i suppose you could use a filesystem image or something | Jan 28 05:32 |
| ender2070 | that would work | Jan 28 05:33 |
| MinceR | not sure if there's a fs image that can actually grow/shrink on demand though | Jan 28 05:33 |
| MinceR | which would be nice | Jan 28 05:33 |
| cubexyz | XFS has xfs_growfs | Jan 28 05:33 |
| ender2070 | even if you used a fixed size of 20GB and only had 1GB of mail or photos it might still copy faster | Jan 28 05:33 |
| *MinceR looks up xfs_growfs | Jan 28 05:34 | |
| MinceR | well, that's not on demand, but it can still help somewhat | Jan 28 05:34 |
| ender2070 | its ridiculous that in 2017 it still increases time when you have to copy a large number of files | Jan 28 05:34 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem like an easy problem | Jan 28 05:35 |
| cubexyz | SGI's thing I think it was | Jan 28 05:35 |
| MinceR | basically your files can have their blocks interspersed with each other and with normal file access this is ok, but when you have to copy them all you have to seek a lot | Jan 28 05:35 |
| ender2070 | I can see SGI needing that | Jan 28 05:35 |
| MinceR | unless you can somehow collect the data and plan the operation | Jan 28 05:36 |
| ender2070 | their business is animation and computer rendering | Jan 28 05:36 |
| MinceR | plus if you have small files, you're going to read a lot of sectors where you'll discard much of the sector | Jan 28 05:36 |
| ender2070 | when you got a compute rendering for weeks you might want it to save often in multiple files | Jan 28 05:36 |
| cubexyz | you could divide your data by year | Jan 28 05:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 05:36 |
| cubexyz | rather than just one large file with everything | Jan 28 05:36 |
| ender2070 | yeah thats what I did with my mbox data | Jan 28 05:37 |
| ender2070 | i moved all sent/inbox and folders for each year into a single folder | Jan 28 05:37 |
| ender2070 | really easy to search | Jan 28 05:37 |
| MinceR | is it easy to see which you've received and which you've sent? | Jan 28 05:38 |
| ender2070 | client sorting handles that | Jan 28 05:38 |
| MinceR | (also, does it screw with the email client ui?) | Jan 28 05:38 |
| ender2070 | i used the email client to consolidate it all into a single folder | Jan 28 05:38 |
| ender2070 | create new folder, lets say 2015 | Jan 28 05:39 |
| ender2070 | sort by year, drag all of 2015 into "2015" folder | Jan 28 05:39 |
| ender2070 | mbox is a database but its human readable and uses special codes for computers to differentiate each message | Jan 28 05:40 |
| cubexyz | on linux the mail is /var/mail/user | Jan 28 05:41 |
| cubexyz | so just backup /var/mail and sort it out later | Jan 28 05:41 |
| ender2070 | i currently use mail.app on OSX (till they drop mbox if ever) | Jan 28 05:42 |
| cubexyz | as long as you don't have gigs of emails | Jan 28 05:42 |
| ender2070 | exporting data gives me a plaintext mbox file | Jan 28 05:42 |
| ender2070 | i do have gigs but i sort by year so yeah :) | Jan 28 05:42 |
| ender2070 | there is a gpg plugin that works quite well too on mail.app | Jan 28 05:43 |
| ender2070 | unlike outlook and microsoft shit that has nothing | Jan 28 05:43 |
| MinceR | has any of you tried any secure-by-default email replacement yet? | Jan 28 05:44 |
| MinceR | (like Cables) | Jan 28 05:44 |
| ender2070 | what does that even mean | Jan 28 05:45 |
| MinceR | encrypted by default, thus resistant to social engineering downgrade attacks | Jan 28 05:45 |
| ender2070 | i dont think there is secure email unless you use gpg and that works on any provider | Jan 28 05:45 |
| MinceR | (that is, attacker keeps screwing up your encrypted data until a user gives up and sends in cleartext instead) | Jan 28 05:45 |
| cubexyz | I don't use email for any important information | Jan 28 05:46 |
| ender2070 | email is fine with gpg | Jan 28 05:46 |
| cubexyz | the gov stuff is all web based and locked down | Jan 28 05:46 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jan 28 05:46 |
| ender2070 | i love gpg its awesome | Jan 28 05:47 |
| ender2070 | best software ever made | Jan 28 05:47 |
| ender2070 | ive used it since it was proprietary under DOS | Jan 28 05:47 |
| ender2070 | i had the guerilla version | Jan 28 05:48 |
| ender2070 | so does everyone remember me from like 5 years ago? | Jan 28 05:49 |
| ender2070 | oh shit, 7 years ago | Jan 28 05:49 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Jan 28 05:49 |
| ender2070 | remember lefty? | Jan 28 05:49 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Jan 28 05:50 |
| ender2070 | ok | Jan 28 05:50 |
| ender2070 | i was on the first episode of techbytes | Jan 28 05:50 |
| ender2070 | and gave roy the idea and motivation | Jan 28 05:50 |
| cubexyz | they tried to encrypt DVDs, and ebooks and bluray and look how well that worked out | Jan 28 05:51 |
| ender2070 | maybe not the idea but i pushed the idea till he did it | Jan 28 05:51 |
| ender2070 | cubexyz: "they"? | Jan 28 05:51 |
| ender2070 | whoa, did DaemonFC finally leave or is he just banned? | Jan 28 05:53 |
| MinceR | he keeps coming and going | Jan 28 05:53 |
| ender2070 | its been so long and my memory is so flawless it feels like it was a few months ago | Jan 28 05:54 |
| ender2070 | http://techrights.org/2010/11/01/techbytes-episode-1/ | Jan 28 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | TechBytes Episode 1: Apple, Microsoft, Bundling, and Fedora 14 (With Special Guest Brandon Lozza) | Techrights | Jan 28 05:55 | |
| ender2070 | I was the Fedora ambassador | Jan 28 05:55 |
| ender2070 | when i was a guy | Jan 28 05:55 |
| ender2070 | omg lol i feel so old :( | Jan 28 05:55 |
| cubexyz | gmail uses TLS automatically anyways | Jan 28 05:57 |
| MinceR | TLS is not end-to-end though | Jan 28 05:57 |
| cubexyz | my rule is never use email with sensitive stuff ever | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | keyword: gmail | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | what does it matter if you use TLS or plaintext when they have a copy? | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | if you use GPG, you can use email, pastebin, a post card, letter mail, etc | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | once when I had to get a file to someone with privacy I had a script that would GPG in parts to pastebin | Jan 28 06:00 |
| ender2070 | and another script that would recover that | Jan 28 06:00 |
| ender2070 | as far as github knew it was just plaintext source code ;) | Jan 28 06:01 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: https://openpgpjs.org/ items like this do bring questions. Why is not producing GPG standard feature of browser and email clients. | Jan 28 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openpgpjs.org | OpenPGP.js | OpenPGP JavaScript Implementation | Jan 28 06:02 | |
| ender2070 | cuz nobody trusts websites with their gpg private key | Jan 28 06:02 |
| ender2070 | pretty much every email client other than outlook supports GPG | Jan 28 06:03 |
| ender2070 | even apple mail.app | Jan 28 06:03 |
| ender2070 | gpgtools.org - nothing like this exists for microsoft products | Jan 28 06:04 |
| ender2070 | great work for an OS with nowhere close to the same market share | Jan 28 06:04 |
| oiaohm | Note I said browser/email clients. There is no private key store in browsers at this stage. Even the email client that support GPG most don't support using keys protected in side like USB keys as we can with Linux to ssh into servers. | Jan 28 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes USB devices that decode the GPG internally so the private key is never on the machine in a copiable location. | Jan 28 06:05 |
| ender2070 | thats extreme | Jan 28 06:06 |
| ender2070 | it'll end up in the memory somewhere | Jan 28 06:06 |
| oiaohm | In the USB key with no network connection. | Jan 28 06:06 |
| oiaohm | or read out ablity. | Jan 28 06:06 |
| ender2070 | if you're really paranoid you would do all your GPG from a machine without internet, sneakernet the encrypted output | Jan 28 06:07 |
| ender2070 | for most people the entire effort is a waste unless you need to bypass actual filters | Jan 28 06:09 |
| ender2070 | in the 90s when most people didnt have internet access, perhaps | Jan 28 06:09 |
| ender2070 | now you're a grain of sand in a planet of sand | Jan 28 06:10 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: there are some really sane reasons to have ssh keys stuck instead USB keys. Main one is that a developer cannot by mistake upload them onto github or equal. | Jan 28 06:11 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: same also applies to server TLS keys. | Jan 28 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Locking encryption keys inside restricted devices is also required to pass for credit card processing with different groups. | Jan 28 06:12 |
| ender2070 | yeah makes sense | Jan 28 06:13 |
| ender2070 | GPG != ssh keys tho | Jan 28 06:13 |
| ender2070 | GPG has been very nice for package signing | Jan 28 06:14 |
| ender2070 | cuz if the key is compromised, revoke it from the distro and those packages are no longer trusted | Jan 28 06:14 |
| oiaohm | revoke only works if 1 you know it compromised 2 you can get the revoking message out. So prevention in this case is better than cure. So GPG and processing engine embedded in something with restricted in out kinda makes attack a lot harder. | Jan 28 06:18 |
| oiaohm | To make a device that can process GPG internally these days is less than 20 dollars. | Jan 28 06:18 |
| ender2070 | yeah thats true | Jan 28 06:19 |
| ender2070 | its good enough however for 100% of distros that do signing | Jan 28 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Distribution could upgrade their policies to say sign by device. Prefered the device been auditable FOSS system. | Jan 28 06:20 |
| ender2070 | the only difference i've seen is that some of the arch devs (like prurigro) have been required to use non-default GPG settings with a higher number of bits in the encryption | Jan 28 06:20 |
| oiaohm | The objective of a device is to make key theift a lot harder. | Jan 28 06:21 |
| ender2070 | i think prurigro has a 4096 bit GPG key | Jan 28 06:21 |
| oiaohm | and when you are not signing things be sure the key is removed from the machine. | Jan 28 06:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways we are super sloppy with security. | Jan 28 06:22 |
| ender2070 | GPG is also a trust system | Jan 28 06:22 |
| ender2070 | yeah security is shit on everything | Jan 28 06:22 |
| oiaohm | No everything. | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | often ease of use is traded for security | Jan 28 06:23 |
| oiaohm | there are a few expections. | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | everything can be hacked | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | social engineering counts as hacking | Jan 28 06:23 |
| oiaohm | Define hacked. | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | gaining unauthorized access | Jan 28 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Like even social engineering cannot extract a gpg/pgp key out a isolated device. | Jan 28 06:24 |
| ender2070 | it can | Jan 28 06:24 |
| oiaohm | No it cannot. | Jan 28 06:24 |
| ender2070 | you trick someone into giving you their keys | Jan 28 06:24 |
| ender2070 | read Ghost in the Wires by Kevin Mitnick | Jan 28 06:25 |
| oiaohm | the public key is generated inside the device then only the private key is ever released from the device. | Jan 28 06:25 |
| ender2070 | 90%+ of his "hacks" were social engineering | Jan 28 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Attempt to open device and the private key goes by by. | Jan 28 06:25 |
| ender2070 | GPG doesnt work like that | Jan 28 06:26 |
| oiaohm | GPG devices do. | Jan 28 06:26 |
| ender2070 | if you ignore keyservers you have to manually authenticate | Jan 28 06:26 |
| oiaohm | keyservers never need to see the private key in the open. | Jan 28 06:26 |
| ender2070 | how do you know the guy at the linux con isn't NSA? | Jan 28 06:26 |
| ender2070 | you give out your public key | Jan 28 06:27 |
| ender2070 | you get 100% encrypted messages between you and the NSA spy | Jan 28 06:27 |
| oiaohm | I wrote that one line backwards should have been private key generated and only private keys released from device. | Jan 28 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Linux con you know NSA guys are there because they do have NSA on their shirts a lot of the time. | Jan 28 06:28 |
| ender2070 | 30 years from now they can crack GPG encoded in 2017 using quantum computers and shors algorithm | Jan 28 06:28 |
| cubexyz | really... NSA guys advertise the fact they work for the NSA? :) | Jan 28 06:29 |
| ender2070 | they do | Jan 28 06:29 |
| cubexyz | seems like it would be against the rules or something | Jan 28 06:29 |
| ender2070 | most of the hackers they try to hire aren't eligibile cuz of marijuana use | Jan 28 06:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: NSA has different staff some are public researches who have no trouble even been a presentor at a conference. | Jan 28 06:30 |
| ender2070 | once its legal in canada (thanks Trudeau), maybe Canadian special branches will allow pot smokers | Jan 28 06:31 |
| oiaohm | https://www.wired.com/2015/09/tricky-encryption-stump-quantum-computers/ << mind you quantum computers are not the be all and end all. Of course as tech advances upgrading encryption tech is always required. | Jan 28 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Tricky Encryption That Could Stump Quantum Computers | WIRED | Jan 28 06:31 | |
| ender2070 | from what i've found out from talking to people in the military, the candian military only bans drugs that are illegal according to the canadian criminal code | Jan 28 06:32 |
| ender2070 | quantum computers are nowhere near where they could be | Jan 28 06:32 |
| ender2070 | quantum right now is just a "chinese" shortcut | Jan 28 06:32 |
| ender2070 | "its mostly quantum but it isnt" | Jan 28 06:33 |
| ender2070 | look up D-Wave, canada | Jan 28 06:36 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: the thing here is lattice encryption is older than RSA stuff we use now. The base to GPG is lattice with prime numbers used to keep key exchange small so becoming RSA. So a stunt to make GPG more compact to transport makes it quatum attackable. | Jan 28 06:37 |
| ender2070 | afaik, you need quantum encryption to protect yourself against shors | Jan 28 06:37 |
| ender2070 | ie, you cant use classical encryption | Jan 28 06:38 |
| oiaohm | lattice encryption by design is not weak to shors | Jan 28 06:38 |
| oiaohm | Its only if you add something on top of it wrong is it weak to it. | Jan 28 06:38 |
| oiaohm | So a really old classical encryption screwed up quantum. | Jan 28 06:38 |
| cubexyz | there are no quantum computers | Jan 28 06:39 |
| oiaohm | lattice keys are not small either small lattice key is 2 megabyte. | Jan 28 06:39 |
| ender2070 | i think everything that is *really* quantum would cut through everything non-quantum like butter | Jan 28 06:39 |
| cubexyz | there's experiments only, nothing useable | Jan 28 06:39 |
| ender2070 | a true quantum computer would be timeless | Jan 28 06:39 |
| oiaohm | The problem is lattice pure require a massive quantum computer to attempt it and then nothing about lattice tells you if you have attempted to decode with a invalid key. | Jan 28 06:40 |
| ender2070 | it would exit "our reality" until computation was done, so to us, it would be instant | Jan 28 06:40 |
| oiaohm | quantum computer attacking an encryption that does not say hey that wrong is a has a very hard headache ahead of it. | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | context can always help you in those situations though | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | you'll obviously be decrypting something human readable | Jan 28 06:42 |
| ender2070 | so many shortcuts :) | Jan 28 06:42 |
| oiaohm | Problem is for short messages lattice every value is a possible decode that is valid. | Jan 28 06:42 |
| oiaohm | So attempting to filter to what would be human readable gets you absolutely no where. | Jan 28 06:43 |
| ender2070 | lattice sounds like something quantum would use to make its own encryption | Jan 28 06:43 |
| oiaohm | lattice was designed to resist brute forcing. | Jan 28 06:43 |
| oiaohm | lattice predates GPG. | Jan 28 06:44 |
| ender2070 | resist or eliminate | Jan 28 06:44 |
| ender2070 | as far as the theory goes, a true quantum computer could computer for a million years and take zero of our time | Jan 28 06:44 |
| oiaohm | And massive computer power does not help you if the encryption has no clues to what is valid. | Jan 28 06:45 |
| ender2070 | if brute force is mathematically possible, quantum would kill it | Jan 28 06:45 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Jan 28 06:45 |
| oiaohm | any encryption beatable by brute force quantum computer make break very quickly. | Jan 28 06:46 |
| oiaohm | but not all encryptions have that weakness. | Jan 28 06:46 |
| ender2070 | i can only think of one time pads as being secure | Jan 28 06:46 |
| ender2070 | one attempt, gone | Jan 28 06:46 |
| oiaohm | lattice you trade public keys with each other that are huge with equally huge private keys. That are fairly close to one time pads when you allow for message offsetting and other protections it has. | Jan 28 06:48 |
| ender2070 | and to be honest, if someone wanted to spy on you theres probably a million other ways | Jan 28 06:48 |
| ender2070 | why crack your lattice keys when someone spying on you can sit in a van and monitor keystrokes by sound and/or radiation and other factors? | Jan 28 06:48 |
| ender2070 | maybe you have the most secure encryption in the world but you have a personal assistant that is easily socially engineered | Jan 28 06:49 |
| oiaohm | You are starting to see why the most attacks have been against staff. | Jan 28 06:50 |
| ender2070 | I already knew social engineering is the best way to hack | Jan 28 06:50 |
| oiaohm | The reality is no matter what there will always be some form of encryption that with the tools of the current day cannot be broken. | Jan 28 06:50 |
| ender2070 | Kevin Mitnick avoided the FBI for years cuz of social engineering | Jan 28 06:50 |
| ender2070 | it took a geek on his level to help the FBI | Jan 28 06:51 |
| ender2070 | if anyone wants to talk about abuse of rights, just research the free kevin movement | Jan 28 06:51 |
| oiaohm | social engineering is not 100 percent as kevin mitnick found out. | Jan 28 06:52 |
| ender2070 | he got caught cuz a civilian IT expert (who got hacked) wanted revenge | Jan 28 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Julian Assange before wikileaks was hacking into USA stuff around the same time as kevin mitnick. | Jan 28 06:53 |
| ender2070 | when is the FBI allowed to hire an IT consultant who then breaks the law (using a cell scope) to catch a criminal and get away with it? | Jan 28 06:53 |
| ender2070 | they had different goals | Jan 28 06:54 |
| ender2070 | kevin mitnick was after trophis and assange was after the collapse of the USA | Jan 28 06:54 |
| ender2070 | but i dunno on assange tbh | Jan 28 06:54 |
| ender2070 | he helped trump which is totally not left wing of him | Jan 28 06:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange << 1987-1991 Please note the Australian government took him on as a technical adviser in 1993. | Jan 28 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Julian Assange - Wikipedia | Jan 28 06:55 | |
| ender2070 | I like trump better than clinton myself, but thats not saying much | Jan 28 06:55 |
| ender2070 | thats like saying you like green shit better than diahrea | Jan 28 06:56 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: remember 1987-1991 crimes Julian Assange did only could get forced to pay the cost of the power bill. | Jan 28 06:56 |
| ender2070 | i am interested to know if people here turned against assange cuz of trump | Jan 28 06:57 |
| ender2070 | assange helping trump actually gave me respect for assange | Jan 28 06:57 |
| ender2070 | before that i thought assange would only report on right wingers | Jan 28 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Assange is a pure believer in information should be free and that is from 1987 | Jan 28 06:58 |
| ender2070 | thats what I thought | Jan 28 06:58 |
| oiaohm | Most people are not aware of Assanges criminal history. | Jan 28 06:58 |
| oiaohm | even that it on the wikipedia | Jan 28 06:58 |
| ender2070 | i dont delve too much into peoples history | Jan 28 06:59 |
| ender2070 | people change | Jan 28 06:59 |
| ender2070 | i usually judge people by how they act currently | Jan 28 06:59 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_%28file_system%29 this is 1997. The thing with Assange he has repeated track history of the same thing. | Jan 28 07:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rubberhose (file system) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qegna ] | Jan 28 07:00 | |
| ender2070 | until the trump stuff it seemed assange was reporting things only the left wing would want out there | Jan 28 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Really a lot of that belief was based on not looking at what wikileaks had been releasing. | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | well | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | look at what governments get leaked | Jan 28 07:01 |
| oiaohm | USA media did want to put Assange on one side. | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | they have zero china and russian leaks | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | you would think there would be at least one person in china and russia that is disgruntled enough | Jan 28 07:02 |
| ender2070 | the cables leaks were petty much every country but china and russia | Jan 28 07:02 |
| ender2070 | Canada was pretty mad about it but they never told people it was a crime to read the dox | Jan 28 07:03 |
| ender2070 | Canada is like a cool sidechick that just lets you do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt them | Jan 28 07:05 |
| oiaohm | China has a government has their own department for wissle blowers. anti corruption is taken very serous-ally in china anyone wanting to release proper evidence on those crimes get paid by the government for doing so if they use the government system. | Jan 28 07:05 |
| oiaohm | So china not having many leaks is understandable. | Jan 28 07:05 |
| oiaohm | I will give you russia is a strangeness. | Jan 28 07:06 |
| ender2070 | yeah but at the same time, you would think there would be at least one in china considering how many bypass the great firewall | Jan 28 07:07 |
| ender2070 | at least one person, in billions | Jan 28 07:07 |
| ender2070 | China as a government isn't as friendly as the mainstream media make you think | Jan 28 07:08 |
| oiaohm | I did not say they were friendly. | Jan 28 07:08 |
| oiaohm | Now not using the proper channels in china expect torture. | Jan 28 07:08 |
| oiaohm | So they will pay you on one hand or torture you on the other. | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | there are also entitled white people who move to china for the "benefits of communism" | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | lol torture is good motivation not to leak | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | under Obama, not even terrorists would get waterboarded | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | the chinese would probably love to be waterboarded vs their normal government treatment | Jan 28 07:10 |
| oiaohm | by china standard waterboarding is them only minorlly annoyed with you. | Jan 28 07:12 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jan 28 07:12 |
| ender2070 | "waterboarding? hahahahaha you call that torture? i used to be waterboarded while being breastfed" | Jan 28 07:12 |
| oiaohm | The thing is if you are release information that is for the long term public good china pays people for that. So a person reporting about how they were tortured in china and they really were by china standard they have done nothing wrong. | Jan 28 07:13 |
| ender2070 | sounds eerily like canada | Jan 28 07:13 |
| ender2070 | except waterboarding lol | Jan 28 07:13 |
| oiaohm | So china is stupid in that way. They take you they torture you for speaking out but then you do a write up in the paper about it and they pay your for it. | Jan 28 07:14 |
| ender2070 | you're not allowed to question authority | Jan 28 07:14 |
| oiaohm | It is the china difference they are not saying you cannot talk about what was done to you. Its more like you can talk about it but is going to make absolutely no difference. | Jan 28 07:15 |
| ender2070 | but then authority because of the public relations, decides to turn you into a hero | Jan 28 07:15 |
| ender2070 | they play the blame game, throw the torturer under the bus | Jan 28 07:15 |
| oiaohm | No blame game what torturer did in china was legal so they promise to consider reform and do nothing. | Jan 28 07:16 |
| ender2070 | its all a show at the end of the day | Jan 28 07:16 |
| ender2070 | the money is probably cuz deep down they feel some sort of guilt | Jan 28 07:16 |
| ender2070 | but not too much guilt | Jan 28 07:17 |
| oiaohm | Exactly and the person complianing comes public entertainment. | Jan 28 07:17 |
| oiaohm | So not see any major released out of china its just how nasty china is. | Jan 28 07:17 |
| ender2070 | its a public display where the government basically shows the public symbolically that it can make mistakes but that it'll correct them | Jan 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | It the art of war if you have no secrets no one can black mail you. | Jan 28 07:18 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jan 28 07:18 |
| ender2070 | finally an art of war person! | Jan 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Russia I don't know why its odd on leaks. | Jan 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | China makes absolute sense its there insane system. | Jan 28 07:19 |
| ender2070 | if you know the NSA reads every email on earth, you stop giving a shit and start being yourself | Jan 28 07:19 |
| ender2070 | at least I did | Jan 28 07:19 |
| oiaohm | Now you think if every country had a system like china. | Jan 28 07:19 |
| oiaohm | there would be nothing for wikileaks to uniquely report. | Jan 28 07:20 |
| ender2070 | do you think that would lead to better life or worse? | Jan 28 07:20 |
| oiaohm | China suggests would not change a thing. If our government systems horrible now they will still be horrible after free information leaking. | Jan 28 07:21 |
| ender2070 | I do have hope | Jan 28 07:22 |
| ender2070 | the leaks seemed to have helped keep Killary Clinton out of power | Jan 28 07:22 |
| ender2070 | despite the mainstream media | Jan 28 07:22 |
| oiaohm | But it would save some of the government around the world wasting money attempting to prevent people leaking information in the public good. | Jan 28 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Of course that information being out there does not mean they will improve their ways. | Jan 28 07:23 |
| ender2070 | if wikileaks didnt show how much of a scumbag hillary also was, she might have won | Jan 28 07:23 |
| oiaohm | The reality neither trump or hillary was ideal. | Jan 28 07:24 |
| ender2070 | trump didnt hide how much of a peice of shit he is | Jan 28 07:24 |
| ender2070 | in the words of George Carlin "at least he was honest about being completely full of shit" | Jan 28 07:25 |
| ender2070 | which ironically he attributed to Bill Clinton back in the 90s | Jan 28 07:25 |
| ender2070 | even wikileaks was like "we dont really have anything on trump that he hasnt already said out of his own mouth" | Jan 28 07:26 |
| ender2070 | lolol | Jan 28 07:26 |
| oiaohm | See trump to the china method. | Jan 28 07:28 |
| oiaohm | Lets just own up to everything then we cannot be black mailed. | Jan 28 07:28 |
| oiaohm | Even that we are a evil bit of works. | Jan 28 07:29 |
| oiaohm | The China method is scary effective as long as the other side attempts to hide things. If you are trying to rat groups you don't like out playing the china way make the groups hiding information from the government seam like the bad guy to a lot of people. | Jan 28 07:30 |
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| ender2070 | I like both Trump and Trudeau cus they're more like Rebels to me | Jan 28 07:44 |
| schestowitz | hi ender2070 | Jan 28 08:00 |
| schestowitz | long time no see | Jan 28 08:01 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jan 28 08:01 |
| ender2070 | yeah eh | Jan 28 08:01 |
| ender2070 | its been 7 years, feels like forever | Jan 28 08:03 |
| ender2070 | or not | Jan 28 08:03 |
| ender2070 | feels like yesterday | Jan 28 08:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz | still in TO? | Jan 28 08:10 |
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| cubexyz | things were civil for _months_ until starstream/ender reappeared | Jan 28 13:12 |
| cubexyz | you know, there should be some indication in the BIOS itself that it has Intel ME | Jan 28 13:20 |
| cubexyz | oh well at least I made some progress this morning with the DVD research | Jan 28 13:22 |
| cubexyz | got a few more service manuals | Jan 28 13:22 |
| cubexyz | not the exact one I wanted but similar | Jan 28 13:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: early ME there does not have to be indication that ME exists other than the firmware containing intel universal microcode image. That might be there because the firmware uploads it. Latter ME you see firmware for the ME in the bios image. | Jan 28 14:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it does become a question do you care about first generation me chips that are rom coded and only do the basics. | Jan 28 14:08 |
| cubexyz | it would help if I knew what the 1st generation me chip was | Jan 28 14:09 |
| oiaohm | From a security point if view I don't care about 1st generation ME chips I care about 7 generation being where they added AMT to the mix being 2007 | Jan 28 14:13 |
| cubexyz | the documentation on this seems very spotty | Jan 28 14:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://people.kth.se/~maguire/DEGREE-PROJECT-REPORTS/100402-Vassilios_Ververis-with-cover.pdf the breach documentation is also very spotty but scares the living heck out of a person like me. | Jan 28 14:19 |
| oiaohm | This is a acer from 2010. Where the faults in ME were network accessable to run AMT mode on then also flaws in AMT are bad enough that you can bipass that authentication as well. And the vendor asking for a fee to fix. | Jan 28 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like owning a laptop that is wireless controllable by any hositle network you connect to that knows how to do it. | Jan 28 14:22 |
| oiaohm | So some generations of ME firmware versions should be tagged if you machine has this your machine is toast. | Jan 28 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Add in intel boot guard where you cannot delete segments out of the ME firmware image. So it go back to vendor and beg for a clean firmware image and hope no hostile upload into system the broken one again. | Jan 28 14:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_AMT_versions reading AMT versions give you clue of when things start turning to hell. | Jan 28 14:38 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Intel D975XBX2 motherboard at the start of AMT the AMT is not doing anything that bad. That is a 2006 board. But things go down hill 2.1 AMT has wake up on lan and 2.6 has remote configuration and 6 and up has possiblity of full KVM. | Jan 28 14:45 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I missed version 4 and up has possible of nuked harddrive. | Jan 28 14:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: http://people.kth.se/~maguire/DEGREE-PROJECT-REPORTS/100402-Vassilios_Ververis-with-cover.pdf << remember how you made out that ME is not a big problem. This was 2010 where a person found they could remotely turn on kvm mode then access kvm mode. | Jan 28 14:46 |
| starstreak | security bug | Jan 28 14:47 |
| starstreak | i dont attribute incompitence to malice | Jan 28 14:47 |
| starstreak | where the fuck is my spellcheck | Jan 28 14:48 |
| oiaohm | A security bug that if you read more intel has not obeyed security best practise at the time when they write the AMT part of the ME back then. Add in on modern system where you have boot guard so cannot change what the ME loads it from some vendors . | Jan 28 14:49 |
| starstreak | Look up the word incompetence | Jan 28 14:50 |
| starstreak | ironic that I misspelled it | Jan 28 14:50 |
| oiaohm | boot guard where if you are on the recieving end of remote accessing parts of ME being coded wrong the only way to fix it is junk the motherboard and if it be a laptop that is lot of cases junk the complete machine. | Jan 28 14:51 |
| oiaohm | That is kinda malice not having a process to provide fixed firmware. | Jan 28 14:52 |
| starstreak | Malice would mean they went out of their way and did it on purpose | Jan 28 14:53 |
| starstreak | I think this is the standard case of nobody coding for security | Jan 28 14:53 |
| oiaohm | The vendors go out of there way not to fix the machines with the problem. | Jan 28 14:53 |
| starstreak | and somewhere, a baby boomer is looking at a spreadsheet thinking that will save them money | Jan 28 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Avoiding providing firmware fixes are malice by vendor and intel did it with their own boards. | Jan 28 14:54 |
| starstreak | its incompetence again | Jan 28 14:54 |
| starstreak | 9 times out of 10, its incompetence and not some evil plan | Jan 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | This case is kinda different. | Jan 28 14:55 |
| starstreak | you'll start to see if it you stop attributing malice to everything | Jan 28 14:55 |
| starstreak | humans are just fucking stupid | Jan 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | I normally land on the side of incompetence | Jan 28 14:55 |
| razielle_tzu | given that intel are still not coding for security it may have started as incompetence buut can no longer be attributed to it | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | im sure there are engineers at intel who want to fix it and some baby boomer in management is looking at how much that will cost | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | and saying no | Jan 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | But when you have two boards from intel one with boot guard one without and one gets an update the other does not and they are the ones with the signing key. And they release a new update patching something else so they have the signing key. | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | baby boomers in charge is the big problem right now | Jan 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | So there is not incompetence in play there but lazy | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | they dont understand tech, just dollars | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | lazy is incompetence | Jan 28 14:57 |
| starstreak | i dont think intel wants to open its customers up to hacking but their devs dont know better | Jan 28 14:57 |
| starstreak | anyone who thinks backdoors are good usually don't know anything about security | Jan 28 14:57 |
| oiaohm | No lazy is not incompetence. Incompetence says you don't know what you are doing. Lazy includes malice where you decide not to do better. The answer is the board is out of support so not fixing the security fault. | Jan 28 14:58 |
| oiaohm | They will fix the power management fault that cause to intemittly stop running that could force them to give a refund in some countries. | Jan 28 14:58 |
| starstreak | oh you mean they aren't fixing it on old systems? | Jan 28 14:58 |
| starstreak | I would look at the warranty card and you'll notice you only get 3 years of support | Jan 28 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Most consumer law covers manufacture defects in electronics for 8 years. Power management playing up on the board intel has to fix for 8 years. But currently they argue remote management issues are not a manufacture defect. | Jan 28 15:00 |
| starstreak | where is that | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | lol | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | thats a ridiculous law | Jan 28 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Its called the functional operational life. | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | probably predates everything being made in china really shitty | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | before computers were all made in china i would agree it should last 8 years | Jan 28 15:02 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Jan 28 15:02 |
| starstreak | but the chinese cheap out on components to profit and then you end up with a piece of shit throwaway computer that lasts 3 years | Jan 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: before they were made in china the number was 14 years. | Jan 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so china production has cut 6 years off. | Jan 28 15:02 |
| starstreak | well they should have put it down to 3 years | Jan 28 15:03 |
| starstreak | not everyone is me | Jan 28 15:03 |
| starstreak | i take care of my shit and i put the extra money into getting the best and it usually lasts a good decade | Jan 28 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Intel in spec sheet for chipset put number of hours of operation that comes out to 8 years as well. | Jan 28 15:03 |
| starstreak | if i dont upgrade lol | Jan 28 15:03 |
| oiaohm | So intel in promised hours of operation promised to 8 years. | Jan 28 15:04 |
| starstreak | sure but they only offer 3 years of warranty | Jan 28 15:04 |
| starstreak | so they're only promising it'll work for 3 years | Jan 28 15:04 |
| oiaohm | 3 years warranty against envornmental conditions. | Jan 28 15:04 |
| starstreak | yeah well thats how it is in Canada | Jan 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | So if the board cracks in 3 years they have to fix it. | Jan 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Other countries do go by the operational life promise as well. For manfacture defects. | Jan 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | So if you are going to promise x hours of operation the board must have been possible todo that in ideal conditions. | Jan 28 15:06 |
| starstreak | i dont remember intel ever doing that here | Jan 28 15:06 |
| starstreak | i've never seen an intel cpu advertised or even documented on the box how many hours to get out of it | Jan 28 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Intel never documents on the box the number of hours of operation. Because it would have too many users asking questions. Why do my hours of operations go down as cpu clock speed go up. | Jan 28 15:07 |
| starstreak | aha | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | overclockers | Jan 28 15:08 |
| oiaohm | This applies to intel standard clocked cpus. | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | assholes who buy cheap cpus thinking they can just set the clock higher and get better performance | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | that dont understand that intel doesnt speed bin anymore | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | while AMD was winning in the early x64 days intel was improving its fabs | Jan 28 15:09 |
| oiaohm | most of cheap intel cpu have longer hours of operation than the gamer intel cpus. | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | after core2duo intel's fabs have been so mature processors have very little defects | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | meanwhile AMD is disabling cores and selling 3 core cpus | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | disabling defective cores ALL the time | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | those x3's AMD sold a few years ago were defective quad cores lol | Jan 28 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. There are still a lot of core2duo chips when they are cut open by dia started life as a quad core chip | Jan 28 15:10 |
| starstreak | very little defects on intels side though | Jan 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Intel has got very good at hiding the defects. | Jan 28 15:11 |
| starstreak | once they were making the chip that became the Q6600, they were all the same and clocked at speeds for different markets | Jan 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | this is microcode for the cpu so cpu with particular defect bypass those areas. | Jan 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | making models of chips with less cores as they still to-do and cut the defects chips leaving the working bits. | Jan 28 15:12 |
| oiaohm | and of course the classic clock them lower until the defect is hidden. | Jan 28 15:12 |
| starstreak | i guess pushing the boundaries of technology and working around the bugs in an intelligent way isn't a bad thing | Jan 28 15:12 |
| starstreak | gamers are essentially testing technology for business LOL | Jan 28 15:13 |
| oiaohm | So its not that intel does not make as many defective chips as AMD. Just intel is better at hidding them. | Jan 28 15:13 |
| starstreak | i still think intel has less microcode to fix bugs than amd | Jan 28 15:13 |
| starstreak | amd's model has just been set higher clocks and invent cooling to support it | Jan 28 15:14 |
| oiaohm | I would say no. Its nothing uncommon for intel master microcode stack to contain up to 9 different firmwares for the same model number chip and choising what one to use based on what burnt out efuses in the chip. | Jan 28 15:14 |
| starstreak | intels model has been to shrink to reduce power consumption to compete with mobile arm devices | Jan 28 15:14 |
| oiaohm | not firmware microcode. | Jan 28 15:14 |
| starstreak | do you like AMD better than Intel for some reason? | Jan 28 15:15 |
| starstreak | every time i listen to amd i get bit in the ass with low performance bullshit | Jan 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | AMD does use microcode to hide defects but their design only allows 1 per chip type. Not the multi intel does. | Jan 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | This is not me like AMD as such. | Jan 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | I see intel microcode managment as impressive trick to get lots of usable chips out of unstable production. | Jan 28 15:16 |
| starstreak | i used to have an AMD A8 6600K, 3.9Ghz quad core | Jan 28 15:17 |
| starstreak | it couldnt even run fallout4 at 1080p with ultra graphics | Jan 28 15:17 |
| starstreak | same graphics card (1050ti) with an old i7 i got from my boss, works perfectly | Jan 28 15:17 |
| starstreak | a 3.9Ghz quad core should be able to handle any game because the 1050ti should be doing all the work | Jan 28 15:18 |
| oiaohm | That is not exactly a perfect valid test if you put fallout 4 on some models of intel xeon it has performance problems as well. | Jan 28 15:19 |
| starstreak | no its not a perfect valid test | Jan 28 15:19 |
| oiaohm | fallout 4 is tuned to particular instruction sets being present if they are missing it performs badly. | Jan 28 15:19 |
| starstreak | i agree | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | this intel i7 is also extreme edition with 12 logical processors | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | 6 core with hyperthreading | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | im comparing a $1200 processor against a $100 processor | Jan 28 15:20 |
| oiaohm | A xeon with 12 locical processors having performance problems. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| oiaohm | So that was a same to same in cores. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | xeons aren't for games tho | Jan 28 15:21 |
| oiaohm | I would not say so. Xeons are recommend for particular games that are played in competition due to have ECC ram. | Jan 28 15:21 |
| oiaohm | So there are games that support broader instruction sets. | Jan 28 15:21 |
| starstreak | what games? | Jan 28 15:22 |
| starstreak | thats very paranoid lol, starcraft? | Jan 28 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Dota 2 and lot of the other esport games. | Jan 28 15:23 |
| starstreak | error correction reduces performance a bit, its usually needed on servers because errors mean data loss and that means money loss | Jan 28 15:23 |
| starstreak | league of legends i bet too | Jan 28 15:23 |
| oiaohm | People losing game for money due to not detect defective ram does not make them happy. | Jan 28 15:23 |
| oiaohm | i7 don't do ecc | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | hahahahahahahaha | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | i bet they are blaming their computers when they lose! | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | LOL | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | "i couldnt possibly lose, my fucking computer is broken thats it" | Jan 28 15:24 |
| oiaohm | This is why lot of competition gaming if your rig is not something support ecc they are not letting you play. | Jan 28 15:24 |
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| starstreak | i dont think thats necessary | Jan 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Yes a i3 on the right motherboard has ecc and is acceptable | Jan 28 15:25 |
| starstreak | a lot of weird rules are caused by people being paranoid over nothing | Jan 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | This can make the person with the i7 very upset. | Jan 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Bad ram making a bad network packet might not crash your machine out on it own. | Jan 28 15:26 |
| starstreak | if i went to those competitions i would demand their network equiment be held to the same standards | Jan 28 15:26 |
| oiaohm | What they do. | Jan 28 15:26 |
| starstreak | cuz it would be a shame if they had all these ECC requirements but then everyone is hooked up to a netgear wifi router | Jan 28 15:27 |
| oiaohm | No wifi other than for no players at most of these competition it wired links. | Jan 28 15:27 |
| starstreak | yeah but a netgear wifi router has wired links too and you can plug switches into it | Jan 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Nothing excess is allowed in the game network. | Jan 28 15:28 |
| starstreak | what routers and switches are they using | Jan 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | So a router with wifi possible would be excess. | Jan 28 15:28 |
| starstreak | cisco i hope | Jan 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: http://www.opencompute.org/wiki/Networking/SpecsAndDesigns Lot of competitions no. Cisco switches most don't have independant certification of internal security. The stuff from open compute and equal they are more likely to use. | Jan 28 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.opencompute.org | Networking/SpecsAndDesigns - OpenCompute | Jan 28 15:31 | |
| starstreak | i would also hope they provide tested network cables that are certified not to fail | Jan 28 15:31 |
| oiaohm | Proper made network cables take a hell lot of abuse to break. | Jan 28 15:32 |
| oiaohm | They are more likely to have a issue from a machine with poor ram or a switch or router without independent certification of quality. | Jan 28 15:33 |
| oiaohm | Basically once you start playing for money things start getting serous. | Jan 28 15:34 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11187796/port-security-issue-causes-limited-connectivity-pcs Some of the cisco system fancy networking features in switches can come a living nightmare for a game competition. | Jan 28 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-supportforums.cisco.com | Port Security issue that causes limited connectivity for PCs | LAN, Switching and Routing | Cisco Support Community [ http://ur1.ca/qeiz2 ] | Jan 28 15:38 | |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the catch is a security feature switch like cisco likes making is not always a stable switch. Gaming competition want stable and secure. | Jan 28 15:42 |
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| starstreak | this goruk is so cool it even has a parking security mode | Jan 28 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://framasphere.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_c9086c8949858a89ac69.jpg | Jan 28 19:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I never understood these "after" shots/frames | Jan 28 19:30 |
| schestowitz | and what they meant in relation to the original/source | Jan 28 19:30 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jan 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | yolo | Jan 28 19:38 |
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| starstreak | hey schestowitz | Jan 28 19:49 |
| starstreak | LONG time | Jan 28 19:49 |
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| MinceR | 28 203838 < schestowitz> yolo | Jan 28 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | starstreak: yeah | Jan 28 20:55 |
| schestowitz | missed us? | Jan 28 20:55 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I bought a baseball bat and some "law enforcement model" mace. | Jan 28 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | You do what you can. I understand that private citizens where you are can't possess mace? | Jan 28 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC | It doesn't kill anyone. It just incapacitates them. Pain, eyes swell shut, and it has a UV dye in it so the police know that they found the guy that attacked you if they catch him later. | Jan 28 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I might buy a stun gun and have them send it to mom's house. | Jan 28 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Those are illegal to have in Chicago, but oh well. | Jan 28 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather risk the small chance of a misdemeanor than to not have what I need. | Jan 28 21:28 |
| schestowitz | why a mace? | Jan 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz | can you carry it around any more legally than you do a knife (even kitchen knife)? | Jan 28 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Factorialpython/status/825464562279387138 | Jan 28 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Factorialpython: @schestowitz @Snowden @FBI @TheRegister great news then, tell the #USA I am their saviour, hung like a donkey, gonna give them ALL they want | Jan 28 22:05 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Mace is a brand of pepper spray. | Jan 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, this one has pepper spray and tear gas in it. | Jan 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | You just aim for the attacker's eyes and face and hold the safety and the trigger and they're in so much pain you can just run away. | Jan 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be staggering around for half an hour after that. | Jan 28 22:25 |
| starstreak | i guess thats better than shooting them | Jan 28 22:28 |
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| cubexyz | if you want to feel stupid (ok, let's be nice and say unknowledgeable), then study firmware | Jan 22 00:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 22 00:44 |
| cubexyz | most of the time firmware is considered a 'trade secret' by the BIOS company | Jan 22 00:45 |
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| cubexyz | ok, the web has hit a new low | Jan 23 00:51 |
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| cubexyz | this site has microsoft _and_ trump ads | Jan 23 00:51 |
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| cubexyz | oh, another bad thing Trump did... although it's history | Jan 23 00:57 |
| cubexyz | when the Bonwit Teller building was destroyed, a lot of the original art was supposed to be incorporated into the trump tower | Jan 23 00:58 |
| cubexyz | including Art Deco sculptures... | Jan 23 00:58 |
| cubexyz | Trump ordered them destroyed | Jan 23 00:58 |
| cubexyz | here's a pic of the original bulding: | Jan 23 01:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bonwit-teller-building-1956.jpg | Jan 23 01:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: read your words carefully. | Jan 23 01:07 |
| oiaohm | The original art was to be incorporated did not say on public display. | Jan 23 01:08 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it was supposed to be saved for a musuem I think | Jan 23 01:08 |
| oiaohm | That was not stated. | Jan 23 01:09 |
| oiaohm | So if it in a private room someone it passes the requirements. | Jan 23 01:10 |
| cubexyz | "To build his skyscraper, Trump first had to knock down the Bonwit Teller building, a luxurious limestone building erected in 1929. The face of the building featured two huge Art Deco friezes that the Metropolitan Museum of Art wanted to preserve. The museum asked Trump to save the sculptures and donate them, and the mogul agreed\u2014as long as the cost of doing so wasn't too high." | Jan 23 01:10 |
| cubexyz | instead the workers cut up the sculptures with acetylene torches | Jan 23 01:11 |
| cubexyz | here's a picture of the grill that was also supposed to be preserved: | Jan 23 01:13 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bonwit-teller-building-street-level.jpg | Jan 23 01:14 |
| oiaohm | The statues arguement can be made for their destruction as other cases when building have attempts to remove stuff like that people have died. | Jan 23 01:15 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways with those big lime stone reliefs making a mould and making a concrete copy on the ground is safer. | Jan 23 01:17 |
| oiaohm | that grill being lost there is no real defence for that. | Jan 23 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Please note to remove the reliefs in tacted its noted 10 extra days most that is due to risk of cracking and droping the things down to street level. | Jan 23 01:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the sad reality is when dissembling a building not all artwork can be saved due to public safety. But all artwork can be copied by one means or another these days. | Jan 23 01:22 |
| cubexyz | it seems wasteful knocking down a building that size after just 50 years | Jan 23 01:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't know on the Australian gold coast at lot of high risers are having to be knocked down and 40 years old due to be condemned due to structural failures caused by concrete cancer. | Jan 23 01:27 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so 50 years old the internal structure of the building can have failed. If that was the case attempting to move the sculptures would have been way more risky. | Jan 23 01:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we do need to start building in ways that are designed to last. | Jan 23 01:29 |
| cubexyz | right | Jan 23 01:29 |
| oiaohm | The biggest causes of concrete cancer is using normal steel that rusts and expands. | Jan 23 01:30 |
| cubexyz | Trump Tower is a concrete building also | Jan 23 01:32 |
| cubexyz | I assume it was better made than the original building | Jan 23 01:33 |
| oiaohm | https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-life-expectancy-of-concrete Its shocking to most people that for bridges and anything major structural at 50 years old they have to inspected and a judgement call made if it has any more life. | Jan 23 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is the life expectancy of concrete? - Quora | Jan 23 01:33 | |
| oiaohm | So even Trump Tower at 50 years old could be condemned. | Jan 23 01:34 |
| oiaohm | The reality is the concrete we use these days compared to Roman concrete is complete crap. | Jan 23 01:34 |
| cubexyz | aren't the roman aqueducts still in use? | Jan 23 01:36 |
| oiaohm | Roman Concrete is totally a different class is good for at least 700 years. | Jan 23 01:37 |
| cubexyz | wikipedia says it's more durable due to volcanic ash | Jan 23 01:39 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_concrete | Jan 23 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Roman concrete - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qdarf ] | Jan 23 01:39 | |
| cubexyz | "Usable examples of Roman concrete exposed to harsh marine environments have been found to be 2000 years old with little or no wear" | Jan 23 01:40 |
| cubexyz | gee, maybe we should start using that :) | Jan 23 01:40 |
| oiaohm | 700 years is roman concreted embedded with steel or the like that breaks down. | Jan 23 01:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this brings on the point of stupid. http://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/first-wood-highrise-building-portland If you can fire proof a wood highrise its good for 400 years. | Jan 23 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.architecturaldigest.com | America’s First Wood High-Rise Building to Debut in Portland | Architectural Digest [ http://ur1.ca/qdarw ] | Jan 23 01:42 | |
| cubexyz | trying to think of what the oldest 'skyscraper' would be | Jan 23 01:45 |
| cubexyz | I think 1880s | Jan 23 01:46 |
| cubexyz | flatiron building was built in 1903 | Jan 23 01:46 |
| cubexyz | so that's over 100 years | Jan 23 01:46 |
| cubexyz | not that old really | Jan 23 01:47 |
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| oiaohm | Particularly when you compare it to these http://gizmodo.com/5846501/how-japans-oldest-wooden-building-is-still-standing | Jan 23 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | How Japan's Oldest Wooden Building Survives Giant Earthquakes [ http://ur1.ca/qdasg ] | Jan 23 01:47 | |
| cubexyz | ha, that's impressive | Jan 23 01:48 |
| oiaohm | 607AD built in wood multi story and scary enough its is almost totally original. | Jan 23 01:48 |
| cubexyz | seems it's main vulnerability was lightning | Jan 23 01:50 |
| oiaohm | lightning and fire are the wood building major vulnerablity. London england great history wood bridge went to fire. It had like 9 story highrises in the middle of the river. | Jan 23 01:52 |
| cubexyz | wood doesn't seem to be the safest building material :) | Jan 23 01:52 |
| oiaohm | The historic london bridge only stood for 300 years. | Jan 23 01:53 |
| oiaohm | Even with the risk of fire and other things wooden building on average out last their concrete equals | Jan 23 01:54 |
| cubexyz | hence the nursey rhyme "London Bridge is falling down" | Jan 23 01:55 |
| cubexyz | "build it up with wood and clay" :) | Jan 23 01:55 |
| oiaohm | Exactly that is what the historic bridge was made of. | Jan 23 01:56 |
| oiaohm | The adverage hieght of the bridge was 6 stories. | Jan 23 01:57 |
| oiaohm | The insanity if you wanted to cross from one side of London to the other it was faster to take a boat than attempt to walk across history London bridge. Due to the volume of trade on the bridge activity by foot it could take you 8 hours to cross it. | Jan 23 01:58 |
| oiaohm | Yes row a boat across the river manually was faster than the bridge. | Jan 23 01:59 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.claybrick.org/news/500-years-average-brick-lifespan << building built from brick also have a long lifespan. | Jan 23 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.claybrick.org | 500 years is the average brick lifespan | Clay Brick Association of South Africa [ http://ur1.ca/qdau4 ] | Jan 23 02:01 | |
| oiaohm | So the story of the 3 little pigs basically lists the 3 best building materials in order of failure. | Jan 23 02:02 |
| oiaohm | The 4 best is roman concrete | Jan 23 02:02 |
| oiaohm | https://sourceable.net/why-is-straw-bale-not-used-more-in-building-structures/ << yes formal tests into straw building construction its rated for 100 years of life span. | Jan 23 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceable.net | Why Is Straw Bale Not Used More in Building Structures? [ http://ur1.ca/qdauq ] | Jan 23 02:06 | |
| oiaohm | Note at least 100 years of lifespan. | Jan 23 02:06 |
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| cubexyz | those nursey rhymes were more informative than we realized :) | Jan 23 02:18 |
| cubexyz | from the chromebook (with crouton): | Jan 23 02:37 |
| cubexyz | "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.10.18 x86_64)" | Jan 23 02:37 |
| cubexyz | although 14.04 is probably passé | Jan 23 02:39 |
| oiaohm | Lot was hidden in nursery rhymes when information was passed by word of mouth not by writing. | Jan 23 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Of course today we like to forget about it. | Jan 23 02:59 |
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| cubexyz | hmmm, some LCD dislays use white LEDs placed around the edges | Jan 23 05:03 |
| cubexyz | displays | Jan 23 05:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: some of the reflective LCD don't have a choice. | Jan 23 05:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the price of being highly power effective at times is not been perfect at anything. | Jan 23 05:30 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I was reading about TV License again. | Jan 23 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that at least one person was so annoyed by the letters and phone calls that he sent THEM a bill for wasting his time and then sued them when they didn't pay. He got the ruling and the BBC had to pay the court costs too. | Jan 23 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | That sounds like something that I would do. | Jan 23 06:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Trump's budget blueprint calls for eliminating all public funding for PBS and NPR. Might as well at this point. | Jan 23 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's already so low that it's being used as a sockpuppet for the rich. | Jan 23 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | They pay and in exchange, PBS doesn't air documentaries they don't want aired. | Jan 23 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that PBS costs taxpayers something like $445 million a year. | Jan 23 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284337/TV-licence-evader-refused-pay-BBC-covered-facts-9-11.html | Jan 23 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | TV licence evader refused to pay up because the 'BBC covered up facts about 9/11' | Daily Mail Online | Jan 23 07:02 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tv_licensing_successfully_sued | Jan 23 07:03 |
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| DaemonFC | Peter Jones left an annotation (22 January 2015) | Jan 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Ah, the old "we only paid up because we lost the court paperwork" gambit. Total codswallop. An uncorroborable and made-up excuse, like so many we hear from the BBC and TV Licensing. | Jan 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | The truth is that it wasn't in TV Licensing's interests to defend the claim. If it had done, and lost, then the story would be carried in every national newspaper across the land. | Jan 23 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | That's exactly the same reason why TV Licensing never presents detection evidence in open court. It knows that it would be suicide to do that, because the technology would be discredited in a single stroke. | Jan 23 07:03 |
| oiaohm | interesting question if the USA loses PBS/NPR will there be a government run tv station left. | Jan 23 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2587588/7-000-homes-block-visits-TV-licence-enforcers-Growing-numbers-taking-advantage-legal-loophole-means-threaten-sue-collectors-tresspass.html | Jan 23 07:08 |
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| cube-chrome | defunding PBS wouldn't be good | Jan 23 09:00 |
| cube-chrome | defunding NPR ditto | Jan 23 09:00 |
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| cube-chrome | we have TVO in Canada, and I assume there are a few other public tv channels | Jan 23 09:03 |
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| DaemonFC | cube-chrome, Public TV here is largely unwatched. | Jan 23 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's mostly cooking shows and old episodes of Bob Ross. | Jan 23 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some cartoons for children. | Jan 23 09:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australian ABC what is the government channel is in the show merchandising game. | Jan 23 09:33 |
| oiaohm | So the Australian government is unlikely to shutdown the ABC as that will equal less income. | Jan 23 09:33 |
| schestowitz | [06:22] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I was reading about TV License again. | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | Oh, them | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | what a sham | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I can't have a large PC monitor | Jan 23 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | because all the large ones come with TV now | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | "smart TV" | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I last checked yesterday at PC World | Jan 23 09:34 |
| cube-chrome | surely there's one that's not a tv | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | biggest screen that's not a TV is 32 inches only | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | and overpriced | Jan 23 09:34 |
| schestowitz | cube-chrome: yes, but not very large | Jan 23 09:35 |
| schestowitz | they just don't make them anymore | Jan 23 09:35 |
| schestowitz | you could be more lucky a decade ago | Jan 23 09:35 |
| schestowitz | maybe there's lack of demand for large PC monitors now | Jan 23 09:36 |
| cube-chrome | hmmm, I don't like having a monitor that's too big | Jan 23 09:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I would have to look again but i thought UK had a tax on TV declared devices on the item. | Jan 23 09:38 |
| cube-chrome | all my monitors are pretty old, so I don't know what's up these days | Jan 23 09:40 |
| cube-chrome | and I have to consider amiga :) | Jan 23 09:41 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: the biggest standard LCD monitor I know of is a 40 inch monitor. | Jan 23 09:42 |
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| cube-chrome | I wonder if you could remove the tv tuner part from the monitor | Jan 23 09:44 |
| cube-chrome | just use it as a monitor | Jan 23 09:44 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: the biggest standard monitor I know is 40 inch by Philips. 4K | Jan 23 09:44 |
| oiaohm | When I say 40 inch standard monitor there is no tv tuner or speakers in it. | Jan 23 09:44 |
| oiaohm | cube-chrome: Issue with using a tv as a monitor is when you get close most the pixels are too large. | Jan 23 09:46 |
| cube-chrome | yeah even 40 inch is too big for me | Jan 23 09:47 |
| cube-chrome | I got a bunch of 17" LCDs | Jan 23 09:47 |
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| oiaohm | cube-chrome: 4K monitor is also good way to stress video card. | Jan 23 10:32 |
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| cube-chrome | I don't think I have anything that supports 4k :) | Jan 23 11:07 |
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| cubexyz | I don't think that the LCD monitor is too hard to figure out | Jan 23 11:51 |
| cubexyz | there's the power supply, inverter, main board, and timer controller | Jan 23 11:52 |
| cubexyz | I even have the service manual for a few lcd's | Jan 23 11:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/823501332908752896 | Jan 23 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: UK still drowning in legacy tech in Blighty's £700m data centre @schestowitz https://t.co/0IXUWCylu1 | Jan 23 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | UK.gov still drowning in legacy tech because no one's getting in Blighty's £700m data centre Ark • The Register | Jan 23 12:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5p3xtr/the_wayland_situation_facts_about_x_vs_wayland/ | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh god... I hate that this still gets traffic >< | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | sigh | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Article author here. Taking questions. Be gentle. | Jan 23 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jan 23 12:10 |
| schestowitz | about phoronix | Jan 23 12:10 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | X does not crash if you unplug the monitor | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | that's nonsense | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | don't know about wayland though | Jan 23 12:12 |
| cubexyz | I don't see any real info in that whole mess | Jan 23 12:16 |
| cubexyz | don't see any facts about X vs Wayland either | Jan 23 12:17 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29#Differences_between_Wayland_and_X | Jan 23 12:19 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the X11 crash when unplug and plugging monitors is in fact possible. Due to the fact X11 makes one huge image covering all monitors connected. | Jan 23 12:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically its one of those mega bugs in the X11 protocol. | Jan 23 12:25 |
| cubexyz | never seen that | Jan 23 12:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: possible does not mean easy to trigger. Note the word monitors not monitor. This is like if you connect 4 monitors at the same time. | Jan 23 12:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: wayland has it fixed because each output screen is it own image. No magic having to glue them into 1 big image. | Jan 23 12:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/ch03.html#sect-Wayland-Architecture-wayland_architecture Note the basic structure here. When you have X11 with a compositing windows manager both the X11 server and the compositor has to handle the huge single image all monitors have to be on and the resize. | Jan 23 12:34 |
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| cubexyz | why not just run a X server for each monitor? | Jan 23 12:38 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure you can do that | Jan 23 12:38 |
| cubexyz | I think X runs a process for each ummm, not sure what the correct terminology is here | Jan 23 12:41 |
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| cubexyz | each displayname I think it's called | Jan 23 12:44 |
| cubexyz | you must mean some multi-headed display thing... maybe that could crash X, I don't know | Jan 23 12:46 |
| cubexyz | I remember some video cards had this special cable with two vga connectors | Jan 23 12:47 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what my TV set does, it's basically a linux computer | Jan 23 12:48 |
| cubexyz | there's definitely two X processes when I run two different window managers at the same time | Jan 23 12:50 |
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| cubexyz | also I would assume if you had two video cards in one computer it wouldn't be one big piece of memory | Jan 23 12:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: issue modern day video cards give each monitor connected a individual memory block. | Jan 23 12:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11 protocol for client side says that a client should be able to treat all monitors as if they are part of a single image. | Jan 23 12:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes plugin in a multi head with 3 monitors to a port ask for instant nightmare. | Jan 23 12:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically all monitors outputs as one big image made logical idea when x11 was first written because that is how it worked inside the video cards of that time. | Jan 23 13:00 |
| cubexyz | ok, guess I need to read this: "Volume 0: X Protocol Reference Manual" | Jan 23 13:14 |
| cubexyz | ok, I think I've overloaded my brain enough for one day... | Jan 23 13:24 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically all we really need to know about X11 protocol is that it was designed for how hardware was designed over 30+ years ago. Of course that has changed. | Jan 23 13:26 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: consider that X11 first protocol had no idea how to hotplug monitors | Jan 23 13:26 |
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| cubexyz | ok, chromeos + crouton just hit 4 days | Jan 23 22:22 |
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| cubexyz | ok, today's mission is to compile xrdb and have a look at exactly what it does | Jan 23 22:51 |
| cubexyz | it is an application of X11R7.3 | Jan 23 22:52 |
| cubexyz | at least it is in my particular case | Jan 23 22:52 |
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| cubexyz | has a blank INSTALL and blank README :-/ | Jan 23 22:53 |
| cubexyz | so really while X11R7.3 is the version of _everything_ here, each application has its own version number | Jan 23 23:06 |
| cubexyz | then everything seems to stop at X11R7.7 | Jan 23 23:10 |
| cubexyz | in 2012 | Jan 23 23:11 |
| cubexyz | so there is a X11R7.8 but it hasn't been released | Jan 23 23:13 |
| cubexyz | wikipedia page is out of date | Jan 23 23:15 |
| cubexyz | doesn't seem like the slack folks are going to bother with wayland for quite a while | Jan 23 23:23 |
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| cubexyz | ok, not a lot as changed X11-wise in the last few years | Jan 23 23:27 |
| cubexyz | there's a few distros using a prototype wayland | Jan 23 23:28 |
| MinceR | wayland is not going to be practical to run until they remove the systemd dependency from at least one implementation | Jan 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | correction: from at least one implementation that supports server-side decorations | Jan 23 23:30 |
| MinceR | if CSD is forced, i'm still better off with X | Jan 23 23:30 |
| cubexyz | huh... well that probably explains why there's no wayland for slack | Jan 23 23:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 23 23:34 |
| cubexyz | evidently I'm still in upstart-land with chromeos + ubuntu 14.04 (crouton) | Jan 23 23:45 |
| cubexyz | also I can report that all the old ioctl's I used in the past still work on that | Jan 23 23:51 |
| cubexyz | fd = open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR) etc etc | Jan 23 23:52 |
| cubexyz | termio, fcntl, ctype, etc | Jan 23 23:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | IBM Gives Power Systems Rebates For Linux Workloads | Jan 24 00:04 |
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| cubexyz | I consider chromebook + crouton to be an experiment | Jan 24 00:28 |
| cubexyz | going to stick with it for now | Jan 24 00:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 24 00:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google’s LG-made Android Wear 2.0 watches possibly | Jan 24 00:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to Install Ubuntu Software, Ubuntu Touch Update | Jan 24 00:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME and GTK News https://t.co/heMIc63UDt | Jan 24 00:44 |
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| cubexyz | Mincer, I have a feeling this site is hungarian | Jan 24 01:01 |
| cubexyz | https://elektrotanya.com/ | Jan 24 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ElektroTanya | Service manuals and repair tips for electronics experts | Jan 24 01:01 | |
| cubexyz | can you see how to register? | Jan 24 01:01 |
| cubexyz | "My TV had old roach exoskeletons and roach feces" | Jan 24 01:19 |
| cubexyz | ok, seems I have to pass a test to get in | Jan 24 01:20 |
| cubexyz | yay, passed :) | Jan 24 01:26 |
| cubexyz | ok, electronics knowledge is just OK, not great | Jan 24 01:29 |
| cubexyz | hopefully the hungarians don't think I'm too dumb | Jan 24 01:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, it is | Jan 24 01:34 |
| MinceR | dunno about whether they think you're dumb or not | Jan 24 01:34 |
| MinceR | doesn't really matter what they believe | Jan 24 01:35 |
| cubexyz | well, maybe I'll learn a little hungarian | Jan 24 01:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 24 01:45 |
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| cubexyz | I'm finding bits and pieces of information, but not the exact service manual I'm looking for | Jan 24 01:51 |
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| cubexyz | a few years ago I know some of the web sites with service manuals were shut down | Jan 24 01:55 |
| cubexyz | it is really abuse of copyright law | Jan 24 01:56 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/czHvs | Jan 24 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | Widely used WebEx plugin for Chrome will execute attack code—patch now! | Ars Technica | Jan 24 01:57 | |
| MinceR | fiasco systems does it again | Jan 24 01:57 |
| cubexyz | service manual hardly counts as a creative work | Jan 24 01:58 |
| cubexyz | Dell, HP and surpise! Lenovo all let you download service manuals for free | Jan 24 02:01 |
| MinceR | even fiasco's "fix" sucks | Jan 24 02:01 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trump declared his inauguration a national holiday. | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Like something out of North Korea..... | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | "National Day of Patriotic Devotion" | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Can you believe this crap? Pretty soon, Dear Leader will come out and announce that the only approved hairstyle is the Godawful Combover. | Jan 24 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've always heard that when you run over an animal you're supposed to call the police and ask them to remove the carcass from the road. | Jan 24 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | Trump put it on his head. | Jan 24 06:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Top 3: Arch Anywhere, Bitkey and Vinux | Jan 24 13:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 24 Gnome & HP Pavilion + Nvidia setup review | Jan 24 13:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | A Pin Factory and Happy Hacking Linux | Jan 24 14:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Asus takes on Raspberry Pi with 4K-capable Tinker Board | Jan 24 14:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Asus takes on Raspberry Pi with 4K-capable Tinker Board | Ars Technica | Jan 24 14:29 | |
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| oiaohm | That fun USA pulls out of TPP an China might replace them. | Jan 24 15:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wireless ready, 3.5-inch signage SBC runs Android | Jan 24 16:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Padoka or Oibaf PPA for Ubuntu Gaming? Tell Us Which One | Jan 24 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Do You Prefer and Why https://t.co/N3y06KKj7s | Jan 24 16:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Virtual Programming are porting Arma: Cold War Assault | Jan 24 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: seen it in a few mailing lists | Jan 24 18:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe it's a feature, but not for us | Jan 24 18:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Do you need new features for your Samsung Z1 ? Upgrade to | Jan 24 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen 2.4 now! https://t.co/hi2zk2GTMN | Jan 24 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Oh, the things Vim could teach Silicon Valley's code slingers • The Register | Jan 24 18:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Next Tizen smartphone could be Samsung SM-Z250F running | Jan 24 18:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | slingers https://t.co/IQOMLSrJFd (www.theregister.co.uk) | Jan 24 19:21 |
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| One | The Dutch court ruling against SUEPO was expected. | Jan 24 19:44 |
| One | There is no half immunity for diplomats. If a diplomat commits a crime he is withdrawn from his post but not tried and sentenced. | Jan 24 19:44 |
| One | They can sue the Dutch government on the matters in which the Dutch represeantative has voted against SUEPO. | Jan 24 19:45 |
| One | At least in the last votes he was against Battistelli. | Jan 24 19:46 |
| One | SUEPO should sue in those countries which constatnly voted for Battistelli´s proposals but they (in particular the ones that lost their jobs) regarded this as counterproductive. | Jan 24 19:47 |
| One | That was a mistake. | Jan 24 19:47 |
| One | It seems that Battistelli has won so far and there´s not much the staff can do. If people don´t want to strike they will just have to put up with whatever crosses little Erdogan´s mind. | Jan 24 19:49 |
| One | What happened in | Jan 24 19:50 |
| One | What happened at the EPO is a typical sign of the times, of the corruption that permeates international organisations and the complicity of the governments in perpetrating abuses against the staff. | Jan 24 19:51 |
| One | It only strengthens people´s distrust of European elites. | Jan 24 19:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android | Jan 24 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | handset gets even better https://t.co/aliBLWu7rt | Jan 24 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android handset gets even better | Tux Machines | Jan 24 20:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | COM duo expands upon quad -A53/FPGA Zynq UltraScale+ | Jan 24 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | COM duo expands upon quad -A53/FPGA Zynq UltraScale+ | Tux Machines | Jan 24 20:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The best open source software 2017 | Jan 24 20:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The best open source software 2017 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 20:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The best open source software 2017 https://t.co/5aoNUWUr12 https://t.co/P7XtTRdmYV | Jan 24 20:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OnePlus 3T review: An excellent affordable Android | Jan 24 20:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS in the European Union https://t.co/XRAEifKZCS | Jan 24 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 24 21:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Resin.IO puts Linux and containers to work for IoT | Jan 24 22:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Google releases final Android Wear 2.0 preview before | Jan 24 22:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | launch next month https://t.co/OIvMFbL6Jy | Jan 24 22:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google releases final Android Wear 2.0 preview before launch next month - The Verge | Jan 24 22:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Vertu's latest luxury Android phone is built for | Jan 24 22:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | jetsetters https://t.co/40wPRKXlRF (www.engadget.com) | Jan 24 22:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Vertu's latest luxury Android phone is built for jetsetters | Jan 24 22:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Lenovo tunes N23 Yoga Chromebook for Android apps with | Jan 24 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ARM processor https://t.co/7Sfj6UaYeu (www.pcworld.com) | Jan 24 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | also has CrossOver/Wine for Windows binaries | Jan 24 22:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lenovo tunes N23 Yoga Chromebook for Android apps with ARM processor | PCWorld | Jan 24 22:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Containers: Resin.IO and Platform9 | Jan 24 22:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers: Resin.IO and Platform9 | Tux Machines | Jan 24 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/8633071 | Jan 24 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Claque": how Trump revived the ancient practice of paid applauders http://boingboing.net/2017/01/24/claque-how-trump-revived.html #trump #alternativeFacts #astroturfing #payToPlay | Jan 24 22:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> boingboing.net | "Claque": how Trump revived the ancient practice of paid applauders / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/qdk20 ] | Jan 24 22:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824025873112244224 | Jan 24 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump i dont know if retweets are as valuable as getting a meeting with him and proving your case. | Jan 24 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824025873112244224 | Jan 24 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Not as much as on the sunbed | Jan 24 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SlowWaterMvmnt/status/824027138412212225 | Jan 24 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SlowWaterMvmnt: @darkcola2 @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump I dunno. He seems to spend more time on twitter than in meetings. | Jan 24 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824027362689949697 | Jan 24 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @SlowWaterMvmnt @GreenPartyUS @schestowitz @realDonaldTrump lol- no he doesnt, & if u use this as an argument- then u dont learn the person. | Jan 24 22:56 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/america-you-look-like-an-arab-country-right-now-214678 | Jan 24 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-America, You Look Like an Arab Country Right Now - POLITICO Magazine | Jan 24 22:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824028073142222848 | Jan 24 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @schestowitz @SlowWaterMvmnt @GreenPartyUS @realDonaldTrump lol... if we are going to go for cheap jokes Ill pull out the joke book from 90s | Jan 24 22:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/walden_mathews/status/824030448288485377 | Jan 24 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@walden_mathews: @OdinOfAsgard078 @schestowitz @DrJillStein Give specifics if you think you do. So far just empty rhetoric. | Jan 24 23:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers | Jan 24 23:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Crash Relays, Clients https://t.co/6wYUMelIB1 | Jan 24 23:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers Crash Relays, Clients | Tux Machines | Jan 24 23:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New Tor Security Updates Patch DoS Bug That Let Attackers Crash Relays, Clients https://t.co/6wYUMelIB1 https://t.co/Evl7epxIPM | Jan 24 23:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo | Jan 24 23:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Backup and Recovery Tool https://t.co/nJINU3KiX2 | Jan 24 23:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.5.3 Rescue Edition Implements New Redo Backup and Recovery Tool | Tux Machines | Jan 24 23:58 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.pmslweb.com/the-blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/19-Trump-grabbing-the-pussy-of-the-statue-of-theliberty-humor.jpg | Jan 25 00:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping | Jan 25 01:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz i686 Support Soon https://t.co/VSdJD6HQFT | Jan 25 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/1/2017: New Release of SMPlayer, Arch Dropping i686 Support Soon | Techrights | Jan 25 01:04 | |
| cubexyz | could be worse | Jan 25 01:10 |
| cubexyz | just imagine Bill Gates as president | Jan 25 01:10 |
| cubexyz | not to say that both aren't horrible | Jan 25 01:11 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure people are tired of losing all their jobs, hence the votes for trump | Jan 25 01:14 |
| cubexyz | http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/01/where-did-all-the-workers-go-60-years-of-economic-change-in-1-graph/252018/ | Jan 25 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Where Did All the Workers Go? 60 Years of Economic Change in 1 Graph - The Atlantic | Jan 25 01:16 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Bill Gates as USA president might not be ideal but at least he has built a company from nothing being a good accountant. The USA need a good accountant. | Jan 25 01:38 |
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| cubexyz | a sociopath... | Jan 25 01:41 |
| cubexyz | or to put it a different way... | Jan 25 01:42 |
| cubexyz | A ruthless schemer | Jan 25 01:42 |
| cubexyz | but all monopolies fall after a while | Jan 25 01:44 |
| MinceR | no, the USA needs someone who will work for it and its citizens, not against them | Jan 25 01:44 |
| cubexyz | the citizens, yes | Jan 25 01:45 |
| cubexyz | not sociopathic billionaires | Jan 25 01:45 |
| cubexyz | he's one of my favourite examples: | Jan 25 01:48 |
| cubexyz | " | Jan 25 01:48 |
| cubexyz | March of 1969, Allen went over to the University of Washington and began using a Xerox computer by pretending he was a graduate student. Gates soon followed and they used the UofW computer until an intolerant professor caught them at it and they were barred." | Jan 25 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824070972147953664 | Jan 25 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/G2mPEQPIjT | Jan 25 01:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 25 01:50 | |
| cubexyz | Kildall invented BIOS, not Gates | Jan 25 01:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/G2mPEQPIjT' | Jan 25 01:52 | |
| cubexyz | buried deep in the CP/M BIOS is some interesting stuff | Jan 25 01:52 |
| cubexyz | JMP PUNCH | Jan 25 01:53 |
| cubexyz | the paper tape punchout output routine | Jan 25 01:53 |
| cubexyz | s/punchout/punch/ | Jan 25 01:54 |
| cubexyz | new terminlogy: malanthropy | Jan 25 02:03 |
| cubexyz | proprietary software... tough to avoid it | Jan 25 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824072317441425408 | Jan 25 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/T29D6VSmiA | Jan 25 02:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 25 02:06 | |
| cubexyz | what do I always hear? | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | "fix the black box" | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | "work your magic" | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | it's this unknowable mysterious thing that you can't fix | Jan 25 02:07 |
| cubexyz | here's another one: | Jan 25 02:08 |
| cubexyz | "Any modern Intel computer needs the Intel ME" <-- a harmful opaque binary | Jan 25 02:09 |
| cubexyz | how to avoid? | Jan 25 02:09 |
| cubexyz | well chromebooks... or "ancient" hardware | Jan 25 02:10 |
| cubexyz | ok one more... | Jan 25 02:11 |
| cubexyz | "make Hollywood trust your computer, not you" | Jan 25 02:11 |
| MinceR | how much do chromebooks do to avoid intel ME? | Jan 25 02:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah I guess the big question is which intel processors don't have it or... can you dd it out and still boot | Jan 25 02:53 |
| MinceR | also, what happens about intel boot guard in them? | Jan 25 03:02 |
| MinceR | is it used to lock in the coreboot version they come with, or not at all? | Jan 25 03:02 |
| cubexyz | the boot guard is no problem | Jan 25 03:02 |
| cubexyz | I can boot with custom firmware | Jan 25 03:02 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 25 03:03 |
| cubexyz | running sshd on chromebook was a pain to get working | Jan 25 03:07 |
| cubexyz | I think the chromebooks used in classrooms have remote administration | Jan 25 03:18 |
| cubexyz | so I figure those models of chromebooks have Intel ME | Jan 25 03:18 |
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| cubexyz | I know I don't have VPro | Jan 25 03:27 |
| MinceR | does that remote administration imply having access while the chromebook is supposed to be off and the like? | Jan 25 03:29 |
| cubexyz | yeah that's tricky | Jan 25 03:30 |
| cubexyz | how would you know if it was doing stuff at the ME level? | Jan 25 03:30 |
| cubexyz | it has a battery :) | Jan 25 03:30 |
| MinceR | is the battery removable? | Jan 25 03:31 |
| MinceR | at any rate, it's supposed to be a selling point in that context | Jan 25 03:31 |
| MinceR | so they'd probably advertise it | Jan 25 03:31 |
| cubexyz | yes, you can replace the battery, so it's removeable | Jan 25 03:32 |
| cubexyz | it's Baytrail-M | Jan 25 03:35 |
| cubexyz | oh well, I asked in coreboot... they should know if Intel ME is in everything intel or not | Jan 25 03:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 25 03:44 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what Intel Wireless Display is | Jan 25 03:58 |
| cubexyz | to make it even more confusing there's two different Bay Trail CPUs | Jan 25 03:59 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much DRM is in it | Jan 25 03:59 |
| MinceR | and how vulnerable it is | Jan 25 03:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and cubexyz http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/architecture-and-technology/widi-pro-widi-discontinued-notice.html WiDi was what was officially refereed to as Intel Wireless Display and that link says replaced by Miracast. Unless there is some Intel Wireless Display thing I don't know about. | Jan 25 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.intel.com.au | Intel® WiDi and Intel® Pro WiDi Applications Discontinued Notice | Jan 25 04:05 | |
| cubexyz | discontinued when? | Jan 25 04:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiDi 2015 | Jan 25 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | WiDi - Wikipedia | Jan 25 04:09 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, see if you can locate the datasheets for N2840 | Jan 25 04:10 |
| cubexyz | wow, I didn't even know WiDi existed | Jan 25 04:12 |
| oiaohm | http://ark.intel.com/products/82103/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2840-1M-Cache-up-to-2_58-GHz Yes the N2840 is a 2014 chip before Intel gave up on WiDi | Jan 25 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ark.intel.com | Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840 (1M Cache, up to 2.58 GHz) Specifications [ http://ur1.ca/qdlha ] | Jan 25 04:13 | |
| oiaohm | Intel stoped everything about WiDi in 2015 this including certifying hardware to support the protocol | Jan 25 04:14 |
| cubexyz | embedded options available: No | Jan 25 04:15 |
| cubexyz | that actually sounds good | Jan 25 04:15 |
| cubexyz | oh boy, this data sheet pdf is over a thousand pages | Jan 25 04:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember intel made WiDi with Microsoft so source code to-do it was not released to anyone. | Jan 25 04:16 |
| cubexyz | ok, there's no mention of "intel me" in the datasheet pdf | Jan 25 04:19 |
| cubexyz | one can 'chromecast' to an hdmi tv | Jan 25 04:20 |
| oiaohm | Me is part of the chipset not the cpu | Jan 25 04:20 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast Miracast and chromecast are the two remaining and Linux can to both to a point. | Jan 25 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - albfan/miraclecast: Connect external monitors to your system via Wifi-Display specification also known as Miracast | Jan 25 04:20 | |
| cubexyz | except I don't have the chromecast thing | Jan 25 04:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: rasbery pi can be made do both. | Jan 25 04:21 |
| cubexyz | neat | Jan 25 04:23 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: note no HDCP so no protected content with Miracast or chromecast done on a pi. | Jan 25 04:33 |
| cubexyz | so one can wirelessly mirror your chromebook's display to the tv | Jan 25 04:38 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: other than the fact the chromebook will want to look for HDCP so you cannot use a a device without protection. | Jan 25 04:50 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 25 07:57 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: Hi | Jan 25 07:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, hi hows you | Jan 25 07:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | what you up to these days? | Jan 25 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Nothing much at the moment bare hating summer. | Jan 25 08:03 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | Jan 25 08:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah I am not liking winter much | Jan 25 08:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but nearly time to go to big geeky open source linux etc event | Jan 25 08:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in another country to since winter | Jan 25 08:05 |
| schestowitz | hi guys | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | So Shiva Ayyadurai | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | is threatening to sue JoinDiaspora | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | and demanding takedown | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | seems like he did the same to Twitter | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe he'll do wordpress too | Jan 25 08:11 |
| schestowitz | I want the media to know about this censorship | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | I informed the EFF | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | but am looking for more media contacts that may be interested | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | First Shiva Ayyadurai sued Gawker (news), for saying the truth about E-mail | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Then sued TechDirt (blog) | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Now threatens SOCIAL MEDIA sites | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Which I think is a BIG story | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | just not sure who would cover it | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | ideas...? | Jan 25 08:12 |
| schestowitz | >> First Shiva Ayyadurai sued Gawker (news), for saying the truth about E-mail | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Then sued TechDirt (blog) | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | >> Now threatens SOCIAL MEDIA sites | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > Divide and conquer. If he takes them on one at a time and none band | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > together and crush him, he will win if only one site at a time. | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > He's such a charlatan I'm surprised he's not at M$ or hanging out with | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > Gates. | Jan 25 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm already on contact with Mike Masnick regarding this threat. Looking for media contacts that may be interested. Told Doctorow and EFF. Anyone else? | Jan 25 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-01/ | Jan 25 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Security vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 51 — Mozilla | Jan 25 08:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Tons of problems with WebExtensions. | Jan 25 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | They really didn't need to come up with this thing. Firefox has always had an add-ons platform. | Jan 25 08:26 |
| schestowitz | heh | Jan 25 08:34 |
| schestowitz | who didn't see THAT coming? | Jan 25 08:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Trump's talking about invading Chicago. | Jan 25 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's already bad enough that Donald Trump is the president at all, but now he wants the federal government to take over Chicago and turn it into a military dictatorship with soldiers, curfews, checkpoints.... | Jan 25 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | Totally illegal. | Jan 25 08:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | DaemonFC, oh? | Jan 25 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | SebthreeBQM10HD, Yeah, he said that if the Chicago Police can't get the crime down he'll "send in the feds". | Jan 25 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | He has no legal authority to do anything unless the state asks for his assistance. | Jan 25 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | Telling federal soldiers to invade and occupy a state will cause a constitutional crisis. | Jan 25 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | There are only two legal ways for the military to do civilian law enforcement. 1. The state governor can call up the state's National Guard units and order them to do that, subject to the laws of that state. 2. The state legislature and the governor (or just the governor if the emergency has prevented the legislature from coming into session) can ask the president to send in federal soldiers. | Jan 25 08:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Jan 25 08:57 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF0322&version=latest&session=90&session_number=0&session_year=2017 | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > Minnesota proposing authorizing governmental units to sue to recover for | Jan 25 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.revisor.mn.gov | HF 322 as introduced - 90th Legislature (2017 - 2018) | Jan 25 08:58 | |
| schestowitz | > the public safety response costs related to unlawful assemblies {sic} | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > and public nuisances {sic} | Jan 25 08:58 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for letting me know. Right now that matter is nothing I plan to blog about because some other stuff (especially Qualcomm, which is overcharging many mobile device makers, mostly Android companies, for wireless standard-essential patents) in the weeks and months ahead. If someone actually gets sued, please let me know. Take-down notices are not that spectacular. | Jan 25 08:59 |
| schestowitz | I think the importance is this is who's behind the takedowns and what goes on in parallel. | Jan 25 08:59 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I think Trump is the kind of guy who would ignore a court ruling and try to do anything he wanted to. | Jan 25 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | The courts have no way of enforcing their orders. If Trump wants to, he can easily create a constitutional crisis. | Jan 25 09:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat's New CFO and New Home for Fedora Cloud Base | Jan 25 12:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 3.0 To Be The Next Major Stable Release, More | Jan 25 13:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "With the Budgie website now up and running, let us turn | Jan 25 14:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | our focus to the development of Budgie 11 itself." | Jan 25 14:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Remarkable is a Remarkable Markdown Editor | Jan 25 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/824232807794929665 | Jan 25 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: Trump 'to sign executive orders restricting immigration from some Muslim countries' https://t.co/RzbSg3AgmR religious minorities get asylum | Jan 25 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> shr.gs | NO TITLE | Jan 25 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | So he was not joking | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | believe politicians the first time | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | not after damage control | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | having said that, the source isn't so trustworthy http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/758491/donald-trump-executive-order-restricting-immigration-muslim-countries-iraq-iran-libya | Jan 25 14:40 |
| schestowitz | tabloid | Jan 25 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Donald Trump 'to sign executive orders restricting immigration from Muslim countries' | World | News | Daily Express | Jan 25 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824259319835357184 | Jan 25 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.10-rc5 | Jan 25 14:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Solaris Not Dead https://t.co/DEyqL6rkXD | Jan 25 14:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux https://t.co/ZcCxYRd0zC | Jan 25 14:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: Avorion and Unigine https://t.co/9BVep1Lp9m | Jan 25 14:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Avorion and Unigine | Tux Machines | Jan 25 14:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824266850829672448 | Jan 25 14:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros News https://t.co/cIZASreMZK | Jan 25 14:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distros News | Tux Machines | Jan 25 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wardleymaps/status/824165924303474688 | Jan 25 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wardleymaps: @ngoede @drnic I do not think Apple was equally fierce. https://t.co/n7FTyit5m8 https://t.co/LfduERQXhe | Jan 25 14:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/darkcola2/status/824268743425593344 | Jan 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darkcola2: @charlie_savage @schestowitz Malinowski has a strong opinion esp at the end. Trump as a leader does invite debate among his staff. | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/notinabluemoon/status/824269622602035200 | Jan 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@notinabluemoon: Another promise kept #KeepAmericaSafeAgain @POTUS @mike_pence @KellyannePolls https://t.co/xSnhgXfArf | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #trump was not joking about banning Muslims, i.e. about a quarter of the world's population https://t.co/AUIWuNtZOT | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlairTroy/status/824269803603038208 | Jan 25 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BlairTroy: @schestowitz even a smart man like you knows there is a diff between restriction and banning. | Jan 25 14:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BlairTroy/status/824269803603038208 | Jan 25 15:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/notinabluemoon/status/824270228876103681 | Jan 25 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@notinabluemoon: not "muslims" muslim countries that support ISIS @schestowitz its called #KeepAmericaSafeAgain | Jan 25 15:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/uTr5Z97tuy | Jan 25 16:08 |
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| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/thoughts_on_the_systemd_root_exploit | Jan 25 16:54 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2z88XTXcAAOzYD.jpg:large | Jan 25 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | Hmm, do catholics recognise russian orthodox holy water as holy? | Jan 25 17:24 |
| MinceR | probably neither works on undead anyway | Jan 25 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Both can turn people in their graves though. | Jan 25 17:28 |
| MinceR | someone should connect a generator to them, then | Jan 25 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe that was the business idea of that protester :). | Jan 25 17:29 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 25 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | not a grave but that only makes it easier – no need to dig | Jan 25 17:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus_paintings_in_Bhutan http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/magazine/blogs/wander-woman/true-meaning-of-bhutan-phallic-obsession | Jan 25 17:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GeckoLinux "Rolling" and "Static" editions updated to fix | Jan 25 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bugs https://t.co/Hu4a8KNAyW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 25 19:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2374.html | Jan 25 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824347917406392320 | Jan 25 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stretch preparations before the freeze | Jan 25 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L9qhl5903w (balintreczey.hu) | Jan 25 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: nice... | Jan 25 20:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@Suzyiam @wikileaks #clinton is no longer calling any...' | Jan 25 20:54 | |
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| XRevan86 | > The whole world was watching for the inauguration of the 45th president of the United States | Jan 25 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't %). | Jan 25 21:00 |
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| MinceR | neither was i | Jan 25 21:02 |
| MinceR | but then i'm used to being excluded from groups | Jan 25 21:02 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 25 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | Not the best Monty Python reference in the clip. | Jan 25 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | > She is from the ministry of Silly Walks | Jan 25 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | not an elegant reference, pretty much to the face | Jan 25 21:06 |
| MinceR | i guess that's what they had Agent Orange audio clips for | Jan 25 21:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Sandwich style BeagleBone Black clone targets volume | Jan 25 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 10 best Linux distros for privacy fiends and security | Jan 25 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | buffs in 2017 https://t.co/IJpBqbj54O | Jan 25 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hitachi Increases Investment in Open Source With Linux | Jan 25 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Foundation Platinum Membership https://t.co/BROh4neYS7 | Jan 25 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Asus Tinker Board Joins Raspberry Pi on the Bargain Table | Jan 25 21:15 |
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| schestowitz | I just posted that, too | Jan 25 23:26 |
| schestowitz | well, they now bully me, too | Jan 25 23:26 |
| MinceR | this shiva guy? | Jan 25 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Jan 25 23:40 |
| cubexyz | ok it's been confirmed, intel baytrail-m CPUs have intel me | Jan 25 23:42 |
| cubexyz | or the chipset does, the details are still a bit foggy | Jan 25 23:42 |
| cubexyz | Intel ME used to reside in the network card but it's moved several times | Jan 25 23:43 |
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| cubexyz | in 2011 they talked about ME activation | Jan 25 23:48 |
| cubexyz | so it (motherboards) would be shipped with ME turned off | Jan 25 23:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly true. ME with the ARC instruction set comes from network cards. ME enters motherboards when intel cpu started needing microcode to fire up. | Jan 25 23:53 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: some motherboards the ME controller is the keyboard controller so turning ME completely off is no Keyboard. This is why when people would say ME is off because it has not been sent firmware in the past was so wrong it was not funny in many cases. | Jan 25 23:57 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, that sounds wrong... | Jan 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | when I was working on coreboot for Tyan, I learned that the keyboard controller was really part of the superio's functions | Jan 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | e.g. NSC PC87309 | Jan 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | now I don't know if that was changed later | Jan 26 00:02 |
| oiaohm | thinkpad laptops today the laptop keyboard controller is the ME unit | Jan 26 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes there was a lot saying hey these thinkpad laptops can fire up without a ME firmware but all it was doing was droping back to ME controller internal firmware. | Jan 26 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Intel has got kinda savage with current ME default firmware design. If a ME has a default embedded and its not replaced the system will shutdown when 30 min expires. | Jan 26 00:04 |
| cubexyz | my other computer has VIA VT82C686A | Jan 26 00:05 |
| cubexyz | the southbridge | Jan 26 00:05 |
| cubexyz | so is the Intel ME part of the southbridge chip? | Jan 26 00:05 |
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| oiaohm | Depends on the chipset some the ME is it own standalone chip some its embedded. | Jan 26 00:06 |
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| cubexyz | some folks talk about enabling the intel management engine... | Jan 26 00:06 |
| cubexyz | that sounds like the computer is shipped with intel me turned off | Jan 26 00:06 |
| cubexyz | where do I find more info on this? | Jan 26 00:08 |
| oiaohm | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt this is not the best. | Jan 26 00:09 |
| oiaohm | The thing is that ME is a programable microcontroller on the motherboard. It can do many different things. | Jan 26 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Some highly important like power management. | Jan 26 00:10 |
| cubexyz | ok, when did this start? | Jan 26 00:10 |
| cubexyz | and I don't have /dev/mei on the FC1 system (probably way too old) | Jan 26 00:11 |
| cubexyz | don't have it on the chromebook either | Jan 26 00:11 |
| cubexyz | huh, wikipedia talks about the northbridge | Jan 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Chromebooks some use the google made EC instead. | Jan 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Because something has to send different intel cpus there fire up microcode. | Jan 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | The fire up microcode from the ME is why you see motherboards all with the same socket only have to take particular intel cpus. | Jan 26 00:14 |
| oiaohm | and if you insert a cpu that the motherboard does not have the microcode for its not starting. | Jan 26 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Basically the ME starts first then the CPU. | Jan 26 00:15 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1789/ | Jan 26 00:15 |
| MinceR | afaik there was a way to circumvent that 30 minute thing | Jan 26 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Also the mei interface is http://ark.intel.com/products/31917/Intel-82Q33-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller around 2007 but that is not the first ME controller that is when we got to be able to interface with it. | Jan 26 00:16 |
| MinceR | so, do chromebooks work without the intel ME and with google's EC instead? | Jan 26 00:17 |
| cubexyz | that's what I'm not sure about | Jan 26 00:17 |
| oiaohm | depends on model and make of chromebooks. Some have google EC some have intel ME. | Jan 26 00:17 |
| oiaohm | But some chip has to fire up the intel cpu. | Jan 26 00:18 |
| oiaohm | If it has a intel cpu. | Jan 26 00:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sorry no only way to stop the 30 min termination in a generation of intel ME that has that is upload a replacement firmware to it from the motherboard firmware image. 30 min is so you can write a new firmware image. Of course that firmware could be just a basic ME init and stop firmware. | Jan 26 00:19 |
| MinceR | afaik they only zeroed part of the firmware | Jan 26 00:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the extra addon blocks to the ME leaving the basic ME intel and cpu power management stuff alone. | Jan 26 00:20 |
| oiaohm | opps ME intel should be ME init | Jan 26 00:20 |
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| oiaohm | Basically you cannot disable ME completely and have a stable system but you can limit is functionality. | Jan 26 00:21 |
| cubexyz | it seems it's part of the PCH or Platform Controller Hub | Jan 26 00:22 |
| cubexyz | introduced in 2008 | Jan 26 00:22 |
| oiaohm | The 82Q33 from 2007 contains a ME with the MEI interface cubexyz | Jan 26 00:22 |
| cubexyz | so you have to talk about what era you're dealing with | Jan 26 00:22 |
| oiaohm | There are ME controllers older than that. | Jan 26 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Except with no program interface from OS side. | Jan 26 00:23 |
| cubexyz | what does it _do_? | Jan 26 00:23 |
| MinceR | that's a trade secret ;) | Jan 26 00:24 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing its a jack of many trades if you read the mei.txt it lists a few different uses. | Jan 26 00:24 |
| cubexyz | do all motherboards have this ARC processor you mentioned? | Jan 26 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Motherboard makers get the development kit from Intel to add their own modules to it. | Jan 26 00:24 |
| oiaohm | The current generation ME are not ARC processor any more. | Jan 26 00:25 |
| oiaohm | http://hackaday.com/2016/01/22/the-trouble-with-intels-management-engine/ | Jan 26 00:28 |
| oiaohm | ARC, ARCompact, and SPARC V8 << yes 3 instruction sets and counting. | Jan 26 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Yes finding a smaller Sparc cpu on an intel motherboard that is like super warped. | Jan 26 00:30 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: and intel atoms don't have a ME but have a security processor that does basically the same things like sending microcode into the cpu so it can work. | Jan 26 00:35 |
| cubexyz | really what I want is assurances that my computer can't be remotely controlled | Jan 26 00:36 |
| MinceR | i guess we'll have to build our own cpu-s for that :> | Jan 26 00:36 |
| oiaohm | Really hard with ME/security controllers when what they are running cannot be decoded and audited. | Jan 26 00:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Brings Kubernetes 1.5.2 Container Orchestration | Jan 26 00:39 |
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| cubexyz | well at least my amiga doesn't have Intel ME :-P | Jan 26 00:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: what makes it hard to prevent having to connect KVM switch items to computers intel built a module for the ME controller that provides KVM functionality by network. So ME with correct module can absolutely allow complete remote control as if the person is sitting at the computer. | Jan 26 00:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | First antiX 17 Linux Net Images Are Based on Debian | Jan 26 00:40 |
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| cubexyz | also I'm trying an experiment tonight... | Jan 26 00:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Brings Kubernetes 1.5.2 Container Orchestration | Jan 26 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | can the chromebook play mplayer and output to the HDTV | Jan 26 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | chromebook + crouton/ubuntu, I'm betting it works | Jan 26 00:41 |
| cubexyz | actually I already know it works going via the VGA connector... did that already | Jan 26 00:42 |
| cubexyz | the content isn't encrypted so game over :) | Jan 26 00:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember why cannot malware flash firmware. Current design allowing firmware to be flashed from the OS without authorisation and having a item built into computer that can be a remote KVM hello problem no matter what you do. | Jan 26 00:43 |
| cubexyz | not really | Jan 26 00:43 |
| cubexyz | we talked about that before.... if the BIOS is socketed you can yank it out and reprogram it | Jan 26 00:44 |
| cubexyz | I did that for gigabyte ga-bxc | Jan 26 00:44 |
| oiaohm | That is if you have noticed that it has been done. | Jan 26 00:45 |
| oiaohm | This is where bios write protect options are kinda important. | Jan 26 00:45 |
| cubexyz | couldn't you do a md5sum check or something? | Jan 26 00:45 |
| oiaohm | As well as auditting. | Jan 26 00:45 |
| MinceR | too bad physical switches and flash sockets are so expensive :> | Jan 26 00:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: motherboards bios is flash socketed but a lot lack a write protect switch. | Jan 26 00:46 |
| cubexyz | this motheboard has a jumper for bios write protection: | Jan 26 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Or jumper. | Jan 26 00:46 |
| cubexyz | ECS P4M800PRO-M478 | Jan 26 00:46 |
| MinceR | yeah, jumpers are too expensive too | Jan 26 00:47 |
| oiaohm | How many people remove the jumper. | Jan 26 00:47 |
| cubexyz | well first it has to _have_ a jumper :-P | Jan 26 00:47 |
| MinceR | good thing we have this enormous mountain of bloat called "UEFI" which has no costs at all :> | Jan 26 00:47 |
| oiaohm | The bloat of UEFI is a good destraction not to look at what is under it like the ME or TPM. | Jan 26 00:48 |
| cubexyz | I don't have UEFI, I have coreboot :) | Jan 26 00:48 |
| cubexyz | ok, Gigabyte GA-BXC is 1998 | Jan 26 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that has a ME controller but its too old to have the KVM functionality. It has the old ME that basically answers acpi calls and uploads cpu microcode and no control interface. | Jan 26 00:51 |
| oiaohm | The really old ME controllers are a black box but a black box that cannot do anything too bad. | Jan 26 00:52 |
| cubexyz | hopefully it's a benign Intel ME | Jan 26 00:52 |
| oiaohm | As intel expanded the functionality of the ME controller things changed until it come a spider connected everywhere with no way of effectively auditing it. | Jan 26 00:52 |
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| cubexyz | althought exactly which chip has the intel ME is still a question | Jan 26 00:53 |
| oiaohm | A little controller that searches the firmware finds the microcode for the cpu on the board and uploads it really cannot do that bad. | Jan 26 00:53 |
| cubexyz | I guess I'll have a closer look at the board | Jan 26 00:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you are looking at the Northridge core chip on that motherboard. Yes intel has not with the ME worked out if it should be stuffed inside the memory controller in the northbridge or be its own chip and keeps on changing mind. | Jan 26 00:57 |
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| oiaohm | If ME had stayed with its early functionality only it would really not be a security hazard. Little power management and loading the right mircocode into cpu from firmware so cpu starts up correctly even if it has a bug or two that is all the first ME controllers do. | Jan 26 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I think that's just the intel i440bx chip | Jan 26 00:59 |
| oiaohm | the ME controller in i440bx is super basic. | Jan 26 00:59 |
| cubexyz | inititalizes ram, and does some acpi stuff | Jan 26 00:59 |
| oiaohm | don't forget reads the bios firmware image finds the microcode for the cpu and shoves that into cpu before the cpu fires up the first time. So if your cpu has a fault that can be fixed by microcode it fixed before first line of firmware is run by the cpu. | Jan 26 01:00 |
| oiaohm | The cpu fix feature of ME is great. | Jan 26 01:00 |
| MinceR | the "feature" i'm worried about is the backdoor | Jan 26 01:01 |
| cubexyz | actually I can see in the logs that coreboot attempts to update the microcode, but then doesn't do anything | Jan 26 01:02 |
| cubexyz | it's the same microcode before and after | Jan 26 01:02 |
| cubexyz | Pentium 2 slot 1 I think | Jan 26 01:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is when there is a backdoor for network maintenance in the modern ME being a network KVM interface being sure there that there is not another one is very hard or that the build in one has not been activated. | Jan 26 01:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 26 01:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: coreboot attempting to update microcode from the firmware image and find it always current is because the ME controller is beating it to the punch. | Jan 26 01:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: of course coreboot has to check because some ME controllers firmwares were stuffed and failed to perform microcode updating. | Jan 26 01:05 |
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| cubexyz | I can't help thinking that if I designed a computer it wouldn't have all this complexity | Jan 26 01:53 |
| cubexyz | dmidecode says some odd things | Jan 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | the port connector info is listed as reference designator: USB | Jan 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | but then it says the internal connector type is Centronics | Jan 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | definitely seems wrong | Jan 26 02:11 |
| cubexyz | probably a bug | Jan 26 02:12 |
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| cubexyz | stop whining and start WINE-ing! :) | Jan 26 02:31 |
| cubexyz | "starting with ME 7.1 the ARC processor can execute signed Java applets" | Jan 26 03:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note that is version 7.1 so there were a lot of versions before that. Yes Jeff files form of java. | Jan 26 03:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the basic idea of ME is ok but then they have extended it to insanity. | Jan 26 03:45 |
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| cubexyz | well there's talk of decapping and x-raying chips | Jan 26 04:25 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what stallman thinks of all this | Jan 26 04:29 |
| cubexyz | I heard google is working on their own CPU | Jan 26 04:30 |
| cubexyz | everytime I think I'm getting a handle on this stuff I discover more stuff | Jan 26 04:39 |
| cubexyz | so maybe Apple, Microsoft and Google will end up making their own CPUs | Jan 26 04:52 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, ever heard of Odroid-C2? | Jan 26 04:55 |
| cubexyz | no Intel ME on that :) | Jan 26 04:55 |
| cubexyz | https://puri.sm/posts/petition-for-intel-to-release-an-me-less-cpu-design/ | Jan 26 04:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel cpus are more needing microcode from somewhere. So me less is not practical. Now something like chrome EC that is a fully documented and open source ME secured by some true hardware way. | Jan 26 06:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember when they did so called ME less with atom they renamed it security processor. | Jan 26 06:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Shadow of Mordor Updated For Linux With Performance | Jan 26 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | It's about me: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170111/11440836465/techdirts-first-amendment-fight-life.shtml | Jan 26 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Techdirt's First Amendment Fight For Its Life | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/qbm1w ] | Jan 26 20:53 | |
| schestowitz | Oops, wrong link | Jan 26 20:54 |
| schestowitz | This one https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170125/14550136565/legal-threats-charles-harder-shiva-ayyadurai-targeting-more-speech.shtml | Jan 26 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Threats By Charles Harder & Shiva Ayyadurai Targeting More Speech | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/qe2aq ] | Jan 26 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/824722213936963587 | Jan 26 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @TimCushing @techdirt .@schestowitz have you seen this? @EFF @ACLU This is outrageous! @Popehat https://t.co/OnlzYjj3OB | Jan 26 20:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Gawker went out of business because of sleazy practices outing thiel against his wishes." | Jan 26 20:57 |
| schestowitz | "|And doing things a billionaire doesn't like is a very serious crime." | Jan 26 20:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for | Jan 26 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD | Jan 26 23:08 |
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| cubexyz | wow, Trump is muzzling the EPA and the national park service | Jan 27 00:39 |
| cubexyz | http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-epa-usda-information-ban | Jan 27 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump Is Really Going to Destroy the Earth, Huh? | GQ | Jan 27 00:39 | |
| cubexyz | "Barring public access to objectively verfiable data gleaned from taxpayer-funded scientific inquires" | Jan 27 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: yes | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | you read the news slowly :-) | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | it's like news from, well... 2 days ago ;-) | Jan 27 00:53 |
| cubexyz | spent hours yesterday studying the intel ME thing | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | I used to follow EPA | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | All year long | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | after your recommendation | Jan 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | They had an rss feed | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I've deleted that, just recently | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | after a year | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | they're now Trump's pawn | Jan 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | headed by his man, Scott something IIRC | Jan 27 00:54 |
| cubexyz | Scott Pruitt I think | Jan 27 00:54 |
| cubexyz | https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/as-the-planet-warms-senators-shrug/513746/ | Jan 27 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | As the Planet Warms, Trump's EPA Director Hedges - The Atlantic | Jan 27 00:57 | |
| cubexyz | I wonder what his science background is :-/ | Jan 27 00:57 |
| cubexyz | oh great... | Jan 27 00:57 |
| cubexyz | "Pruitt has no formal scientific or environment training" | Jan 27 00:58 |
| cubexyz | s/environment/environmental/ | Jan 27 00:58 |
| cubexyz | and he sued the EPA a bunch of times as Attorney General of Oklahoma | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824780126248370177 | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat doubles down on a deal driver: #OpenShift | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/phnHQWEqNe (www.bizjournals.com) | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Iegf9aiDGY (www.railway-technology.com) | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yVSnb2HUJf (it-online.co.za) | Jan 27 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | Red Hat doubles down on a deal driver: OpenShift - Triangle Business Journal | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.railway-technology.com | SBB uses Red Hat OpenShift Container Platform for freight network - Railway Technology | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it-online.co.za | Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) deploys Red Hat | IT-Online | Jan 27 00:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824783820775968771 | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/0f0YDsUCvc | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 27 01:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 | Jan 27 01:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824784068005003265 | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/8fQpzIptEX | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/mewgQHBfqC | Jan 27 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Jan 27 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon HD 7xxx/8xxx Support | Jan 27 01:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Released - Phoronix | Jan 27 01:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jan 27 01:05 | |
| cubexyz | the EPA rss feed is probably still useful, even if Scott Pruitt is a trump stooge | Jan 27 01:07 |
| cubexyz | http://www.epa.gov/newsroom/rssfeeds.htm | Jan 27 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epa.gov | Newsroom | US EPA | Jan 27 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824786358635986945 | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jonathan Blow states he is open to a Linux port of The | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Witness with Vulkan, but never with OpenGL | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9muoTQrzhJ (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 27 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jonathan Blow states he is open to a Linux port of The Witness with Vulkan, but never with OpenGL | GamingOnLinux | Jan 27 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824786771212980224 | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Civilization VI has entered final testing for Linux, | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | could release soon, should be on sale too | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/iU9fmBzNKK (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 27 01:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Civilization VI has entered final testing for Linux, could release soon, should be on sale too | GamingOnLinux | Jan 27 01:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Announces LXD 2.8 Pure-Container Hypervisor for Ubuntu...' | Jan 27 01:12 | |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: yeah, but I won't RE-subscribe | Jan 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz | not after Trump ruined it | Jan 27 01:14 |
| cubexyz | how about this one instead: | Jan 27 01:19 |
| cubexyz | https://eponline.com/rss-feeds/news.aspx?admgarea=RSS | Jan 27 01:19 |
| cubexyz | added the distrowatch rss: | Jan 27 01:22 |
| cubexyz | http://www.distrowatch.com/news/news/dw.xml | Jan 27 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/news/news/dw.xml ) | Jan 27 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | I got it already | Jan 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | but now the weekly news one | Jan 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | it's always early Monday/late Sunday | Jan 27 01:40 |
| cubexyz | going to try canto | Jan 27 01:42 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/c0187630b3f8013428f5005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-20 ) | Jan 27 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remember Or Rumor - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-01-20 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jan 27 01:46 | |
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| cubexyz | tch, this canto version is old | Jan 27 01:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 Linux Driver Finally Adds AMD Radeon...' | Jan 27 01:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824797401206706178 | Jan 27 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 26/1/2017: KDE Slimbook Release, LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Jan 27 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HhfxcMc57R (techrights.org) | Jan 27 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 01:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/1/2017: KDE Slimbook Release, LibreOffice 5.2.5 | Techrights | Jan 27 01:54 | |
| cubexyz | this python stuff.... grrrr | Jan 27 01:57 |
| cubexyz | there's multiple python-dev packages | Jan 27 01:57 |
| cubexyz | ls | Jan 27 01:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824797550469320708 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ibJD3cR7j4 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798723372785664 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/gOa3b9yOQv | Jan 27 01:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798724668813312 | Jan 27 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Leadership Summit and 4Ccon | Jan 27 01:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Leadership Summit and 4Ccon | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/0wRAkSfFXb | Jan 27 01:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798727789359104 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/H2Iz1RFGl2 | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798729265745920 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News https://t.co/KhTXhVLUEL (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798730742177792 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/ys0n7wEnTD | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798732042375169 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More News About KDE Slimbook https://t.co/oiu6WaAFAd | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More News About KDE Slimbook | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798733871116288 | Jan 27 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software and Games https://t.co/Ivqv9gZjcm | Jan 27 01:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software and Games | Tux Machines | Jan 27 01:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824798735255232514 | Jan 27 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/QkPob0pZtL | Jan 27 02:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jan 27 02:01 | |
| MinceR | 27 025726 < cubexyz> there's multiple python-dev packages | Jan 27 02:02 |
| MinceR | one for python2 and one for python3? | Jan 27 02:02 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jan 27 02:02 |
| MinceR | that's to be expected | Jan 27 02:03 |
| cubexyz | is ubuntu 14.04 really old? | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | they're not entirely compatible | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jan 27 02:03 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | python2 and python3 both survive and are in active use | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | they both have their advantages vs the other | Jan 27 02:03 |
| MinceR | http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-tried-to-force-national-park-service-to-verify-his-false-numbers-about-crowd-size-report/ | Jan 27 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Trump tried to force National Park Service to verify his false numbers about crowd size: report | Jan 27 02:04 | |
| MinceR | lold | Jan 27 02:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dongoehubaire/status/824788145086529537 | Jan 27 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dongoehubaire: The guy who pretends he invented email is at it yet again, and I'm beginning to grudgingly respect his dedication. https://t.co/uDD1Pv22Qn | Jan 27 02:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Lawyer for “inventor of e-mail” sends threat letter over social media posts | Ars Technica | Jan 27 02:06 | |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jan 27 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/824799399322718211 | Jan 27 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/RsN4xPxNrt | Jan 27 02:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Jan 27 02:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jan 27 02:08 | |
| cubexyz | screw canto :-/ | Jan 27 02:10 |
| cubexyz | it's tons and tons of shit | Jan 27 02:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'll use newsbeuter instead | Jan 27 02:17 |
| cubexyz | much better | Jan 27 02:18 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 02:22 |
| MinceR | have you found a feedreader that actually scales to having lots of feed items without slowing to a crawl? | Jan 27 02:22 |
| cubexyz | I hope so... newsbeuter is ncurses so it should be faster | Jan 27 02:23 |
| MinceR | won't help much if their database is ill-designed | Jan 27 02:23 |
| cubexyz | you know I'm always looking for the lightest memory use possible | Jan 27 02:25 |
| cubexyz | akregator was pulling in festival which I thought was stupid | Jan 27 02:25 |
| cubexyz | and kttsd | Jan 27 02:26 |
| cubexyz | or maybe it was konqueror pulling it in | Jan 27 02:27 |
| cubexyz | nope there it is again... | Jan 27 02:28 |
| cubexyz | the NASA feed didn't work in newsbeuter | Jan 27 02:35 |
| cubexyz | evidently ubuntu 14.04 is trusty tahr | Jan 27 02:41 |
| cubexyz | so 2014 era | Jan 27 02:41 |
| cubexyz | yay, I'm only 3 years out of date this time | Jan 27 02:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Gelisgede/status/824861960399314948 | Jan 27 06:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Gelisgede 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/gpN7SvEq4B | Jan 27 06:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Gelisgede 7xxx/8xxx Support https://t.co/8fQpzIptEX | Jan 27 06:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Gelisgede Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04 https://t.co/0f0YDsUCvc | Jan 27 06:10 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/5qe0qm/lawyer_for_inventor_of_email_sends_threat_letter/ | Jan 27 08:38 |
| r_schestowitz | "Unsurprising activity from a man who has, on occasion, accused chestnuts of being lazy." | Jan 27 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lawyer for “inventor of e-mail” sends threat letter over social media posts : law [ http://ur1.ca/qe5ke ] | Jan 27 08:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824902921934344195 | Jan 27 08:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Scientific Linux 7.3 Released https://t.co/2yDat6fEvq | Jan 27 08:57 |
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| r_schestowitz | [02:25] <cubexyz> akregator was pulling in festival which I thought was stupid | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:26] <cubexyz> and kttsd | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:27] <cubexyz> or maybe it was konqueror pulling it in | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:28] <cubexyz> nope there it is again... | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:35] <cubexyz> the NASA feed didn't work in newsbeuter | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:41] <cubexyz> evidently ubuntu 14.04 is trusty tahr | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:41] <cubexyz> so 2014 era | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [02:42] <cubexyz> yay, I'm only 3 years out of date this time | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [03:02] <cubexyz> all systems are go | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [03:02] <cubexyz> http://www.maxhost.org/other/newsbeuter.png | Jan 27 09:06 |
| r_schestowitz | [08:38] <r_schestowitz> https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/5qe0qm/lawyer_for_inventor_of_email_sends_threat_letter/ | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | [08:38] <r_schestowitz> "Unsurprising activity from a man who has, on occasion, accused chestnuts of being lazy." | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | Xchat was offline | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | so i had to pull the above in | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | for the logs at least | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | although I reckon cubelog1 got it anyway | Jan 27 09:07 |
| r_schestowitz | the backup for the logs, my connection went down and xchat-gnome is rubbish compared to the original | Jan 27 09:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Linux Is Now Available For NVIDIA's Jetson TX1 | Jan 27 09:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Scientific Linux 7.3 Released https://t.co/oJ9M2GsjCV | Jan 27 09:35 |
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| MinceR | http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/306411/world-ugliest-house-up-for-sale/ | Jan 27 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deathandtaxesmag.com | World’s ugliest house now up for sale [ http://ur1.ca/qe6mp ] | Jan 27 12:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/824952722264846336 | Jan 27 12:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lennart Poettering on systemd’s Tumultuous Ascendancy in | Jan 27 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I have seen many uglier homes (than this) | Jan 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | i haven't, at least from the inside | Jan 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | especially that splatter pattern on the windows :> | Jan 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | obviously, the outside (even if it's a McMansion) has nothing on the works of brutalism | Jan 27 12:37 |
| MinceR | plastic barns with randomly placed windows can't beat bare concrete blocks washed with sewage | Jan 27 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Ok what house picture. | Jan 27 12:50 |
| oiaohm | It has to be fairly bad to beat one I saw sell for 5 million dollars. The house was that bad that due to the fact the floor, roof and walls were unstable you were not allowed to go inside. | Jan 27 12:52 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 12:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.curbly.com/trump-is-a-living-mcmansion | Jan 27 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump is a Living McMansion, and Other Design Catastrophes | Curbly | Jan 27 12:55 | |
| oiaohm | Ok that is not that bad. | Jan 27 12:56 |
| oiaohm | Compared to the worse I have seen. | Jan 27 12:56 |
| MinceR | it's pretty tiresome to look at, though | Jan 27 12:57 |
| MinceR | details and yellow everywhere | Jan 27 12:57 |
| MinceR | also, it's hideously tacky | Jan 27 12:59 |
| oiaohm | The top 3 features other than been totally condemned of the worse house I have ever seen that sold for a fortune. 1 the down stairs toilet door lined up with the front door. 2 not a single step in the place was built to code. 3 orginal colors blood red, Yellow and black used random-ally. | Jan 27 13:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes the reason it was falling down even the person who built it looked at it and said I am not living there. | Jan 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I will give you it takes beating the worst I have ever seen. | Jan 27 13:04 |
| MinceR | :D | Jan 27 13:05 |
| oiaohm | That house proved that position mattered it was a well placed beach front location. | Jan 27 13:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.domain.com.au/news/worst-house-youll-ever-see-hits-the-market-for-1-million-20160503-gokrij/ last years worse house on sale in Australia was not that bad. | Jan 27 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.domain.com.au | ‘Worst house you’ll ever see’ hits the market for $1 million – Domain | Jan 27 13:09 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 27 13:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically trumps house is not bad enough to need a bulldozer. Complete internal clean out and some sane design work and it fixed. The worst houses here are past all possible repair. | Jan 27 13:12 |
| MinceR | i doubt they'd tear down a highrise with a bulldozer anyway | Jan 27 13:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: depends on what size bulldozer. Mining dozer 3 stories high not much stops those. | Jan 27 13:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 27 13:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, but it will damage adjacent property | Jan 27 13:15 |
| oiaohm | You know the building really bad when the adjacent properties don't care. | Jan 27 13:15 |
| oiaohm | http://www.realestate.com.au/news/2016s-worst-looking-houses-sold-for-more-than-1-million/ << I like the limit here must of sold for more than 1 million dollars to make the list. | Jan 27 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2016’s worst looking houses sold for more than $1 million - realestate.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/qe6un ] | Jan 27 13:16 | |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komatsu_D575A The dozer I was thinking about is 2 stories. Still used against a building the correct way it will do major structural damage. | Jan 27 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Komatsu D575A - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qe6vo ] | Jan 27 13:20 | |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, if you're still around give me a list of intel CPUs that don't have the management engine | Jan 28 00:50 |
| cubexyz | ok, found something interesting... | Jan 28 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24661 Really you have to go back a long way to get a chip that does not have a management engine or equal a possible on the motherboard. Everything Pent 4 and newer | Jan 28 00:54 |
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| oiaohm | could have one. | Jan 28 00:55 |
| cubexyz | when I built coreboot for gigabyte GA-BXC there was no ME blob | Jan 28 00:55 |
| cubexyz | socketed atmel AT29C020 bios chip... | Jan 28 00:56 |
| oiaohm | Not all ME are updatable either. Some of the early ME chips search the firmware find the microcode shove into cpu before starting bois but the ME firmware is written into the ME chip rom. | Jan 28 00:57 |
| oiaohm | So some ME chips are not a threat because their functionality is limited and not changeable. | Jan 28 00:57 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the reason intel added the ME chip in the first place was to update microcode of cpu before starting bios to allow them to ship more chips like chips that have defects that microcode can work around. | Jan 28 00:59 |
| cubexyz | there's no good info on what exactly the Intel ME does | Jan 28 00:59 |
| oiaohm | there is no good information on what ME does because its feature creep of the worse kind. | Jan 28 01:00 |
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| oiaohm | Add a microcontroller to start cpu with current microcode you start with. Then you have a microconroller sitting in board doing nothing lets have it keep running doing some power management tasks.... and the features just keep on creeping in. | Jan 28 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Until you end up with the spider that current day ME is. | Jan 28 01:01 |
| cubexyz | ok, so P2, P3's don't need Intel ME | Jan 28 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Also early ME was a independant chip so vendors could add their own replacements. | Jan 28 01:02 |
| cubexyz | what chip? | Jan 28 01:02 |
| cubexyz | the northbridge I suppose | Jan 28 01:02 |
| oiaohm | It would be a power management chip | Jan 28 01:03 |
| cubexyz | can you give an example? | Jan 28 01:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ec-development this was a vendor replacement to a ME. | Jan 28 01:05 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: so by the time of chromebooks EC the google developers make a replacement for everything that a ME had to-do so a intel system could operate. | Jan 28 01:05 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 28 01:07 |
| starstreak | you're still running a pentium3? | Jan 28 01:08 |
| oiaohm | page 20 of the presentation on that page. Do note by 2014 the ME is doing keyboard controller. Lot of what were different independent microcontrollers on old motherboards had been consumed into the ME. | Jan 28 01:08 |
| cubexyz | actually power management used to be (maybe it still is) part of the southbridge | Jan 28 01:09 |
| cubexyz | I run about a dozen different computers | Jan 28 01:09 |
| oiaohm | there is a i2c control for the southbridge for power management something has to send the power management instructions. | Jan 28 01:09 |
| starstreak | thanks for killing the planet | Jan 28 01:09 |
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| cubexyz | what are you talking about? | Jan 28 01:10 |
| starstreak | the amount of power you are wasting to power low end hardware is disgusting | Jan 28 01:10 |
| cubexyz | it's not significant | Jan 28 01:10 |
| starstreak | i could probably emulate 100 pentium 3s with a quarter of the power | Jan 28 01:11 |
| cubexyz | most of them aren't even turned on at the moment | Jan 28 01:11 |
| cubexyz | plus some are headless | Jan 28 01:11 |
| starstreak | quarter power of one p3 that is | Jan 28 01:11 |
| starstreak | oh ok | Jan 28 01:11 |
| starstreak | even a raspi would do circles around most old computers and uses little to no power | Jan 28 01:12 |
| starstreak | it grinds my gears when people think they're being cheap but waste cash on electricity powering old power wasting machines | Jan 28 01:12 |
| cubexyz | you haven't thought this out at all | Jan 28 01:12 |
| cubexyz | chip fab generates pollution | Jan 28 01:13 |
| starstreak | right | Jan 28 01:13 |
| cubexyz | also I don't really trust new computers with Intel ME and who knows what | Jan 28 01:13 |
| starstreak | so slowing down progression (which leads to smaller chips which use less pollution to make) will create bigger problems than you seek to fix | Jan 28 01:13 |
| starstreak | what you wouldnt trust is AMD using Intel ME | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | AMD produces shit | Jan 28 01:14 |
| cubexyz | so you're fine with disposable unfixable computers? | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | Intel's process is so mature they don't need to speed bin anymore | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 28 01:14 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: you are overlooking the cost of chip production. Sorry to say not true on the idea less pollution is kinda wrong. Fabs that produced the pent 3 are still in usage. | Jan 28 01:14 |
| starstreak | eventually computer chips will be so small and cheap they'll power paper computers, wallpaper displays, etc | Jan 28 01:15 |
| starstreak | so yeah, keep slowing down technology by hoarding old tech | Jan 28 01:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: turns out it cheaper to produce a new pent 3 than a new rasbery pi. Yes a pent 3 using the same old fab. | Jan 28 01:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: that is in a envornmental cost of production. | Jan 28 01:15 |
| cubexyz | I have zero effect on technology :) | Jan 28 01:15 |
| cubexyz | I am slowing down nothing | Jan 28 01:15 |
| starstreak | the pentium 3 likely uses 100 times more power | Jan 28 01:16 |
| starstreak | maybe that doesnt matter if you're running on wind or solar | Jan 28 01:16 |
| starstreak | nobody is going to stop making new chips and go back to pentium 3s | Jan 28 01:16 |
| cubexyz | exactly my point | Jan 28 01:16 |
| starstreak | theres no sense in that | Jan 28 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I have no effect on things | Jan 28 01:17 |
| starstreak | good | Jan 28 01:17 |
| starstreak | you're part of a dying breed of obsolete people against change | Jan 28 01:17 |
| cubexyz | you know nothing about me | Jan 28 01:17 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: new pentium 3 class chips are made today for usages that require high radiation tollerence. | Jan 28 01:17 |
| starstreak | im not new i've been here before | Jan 28 01:17 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: basically pentium 3 class chips are still in current day production. | Jan 28 01:18 |
| starstreak | when i asked if you were still running a pentium3, its cuz i remember back in 2009 you did | Jan 28 01:18 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: special use cases | Jan 28 01:18 |
| starstreak | a pentium 3 would die on 1080p | Jan 28 01:18 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 180 nm construction is still required for making cpus for radiation tollerence. | Jan 28 01:18 |
| cubexyz | no one cares what you think "starstreak" | Jan 28 01:19 |
| cubexyz | go pick an argument with someone else | Jan 28 01:19 |
| starstreak | lol | Jan 28 01:19 |
| starstreak | they might not care but they'll agree with me cuz progress is awesome | Jan 28 01:20 |
| cubexyz | go play on windows 10 like a good little punk | Jan 28 01:21 |
| cubexyz | that's all you're good for | Jan 28 01:21 |
| starstreak | if everyone stuck to p3's like you we wouldn't have all this amazing battery technology powering teslas | Jan 28 01:21 |
| cubexyz | I seem to remember making batteries also generates pollution | Jan 28 01:22 |
| starstreak | yeah so where do you store your wind and solar excess so you don't have outages? | Jan 28 01:22 |
| oiaohm | Really if you really cared about envornment you would be more focused on have some of the old cpu types back and made at a decent nm. http://j-core.org/ this is a reimplementation of the old superh | Jan 28 01:23 |
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| oiaohm | SuperH cpu were known for being one of the highest density of cpu instructions to ram of a 32 bit or 64 bit processor. | Jan 28 01:23 |
| starstreak | does it run x86 or arm code? | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | SuperH is superh so of course is not x86 or arm | Jan 28 01:24 |
| oiaohm | Neither of x86 or arm have been design to be absolutely size effective. | Jan 28 01:25 |
| cubexyz | unrepairable computers generates tons of ewaste | Jan 28 01:25 |
| cubexyz | this is a stupid convo | Jan 28 01:25 |
| starstreak | so then you trade one waste for another waste | Jan 28 01:26 |
| cubexyz | for less waste, which is the lesser evil | Jan 28 01:26 |
| starstreak | but at the same time you end up waiting forever for shit and can't do anything new | Jan 28 01:26 |
| starstreak | its the same waste | Jan 28 01:26 |
| cubexyz | you haven't been paying attention | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | you're either generating ewaste or you're wasting electricity, and if you've been running that p3 since the 90s i can only imagine your disgusting carbon footprint over that time | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | i would say you are causing more damage than throwing it out | Jan 28 01:27 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: what is the carbon foot print to recycle a p3. | Jan 28 01:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, well have fun with your bic light computer | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | by wasting more electricty than the energy required to get rid of it | Jan 28 01:27 |
| starstreak | the computer means nothing to me | Jan 28 01:28 |
| starstreak | the data matters | Jan 28 01:28 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: to recycle a pent 3 properly consumes as much power as that is required to run the chip for 15 years. | Jan 28 01:28 |
| oiaohm | the price tag on recycling ewaste is down right scary. | Jan 28 01:28 |
| starstreak | the chip isnt that efficient | Jan 28 01:28 |
| starstreak | you're not looking at how much watts he is burning to compute cycles over that 15 year period | Jan 28 01:29 |
| cubexyz | the landfills need more iphones you see... | Jan 28 01:29 |
| starstreak | cycles computed over 15 years times the amount of electricity that used, vs cycles computed with cpu upgrades every 5 years | Jan 28 01:29 |
| starstreak | you'll have more cycles computed with cpu upgrades, and each upgrade will lower the watts required | Jan 28 01:29 |
| oiaohm | I mean he runs the pent 3 cpu at a 100 percent load for 15 years. The power cost to recycle it would take that long. | Jan 28 01:29 |
| starstreak | look at it this way | Jan 28 01:30 |
| cubexyz | it's no where near that | Jan 28 01:30 |
| cubexyz | no where near 100% | Jan 28 01:30 |
| starstreak | if he ran SETI@home on his p3 for the last 15 years, and got 20000 units complete | Jan 28 01:30 |
| starstreak | if he upgraded, a current i7 would probably do that in a week | Jan 28 01:30 |
| starstreak | think about all the electricity BURNED to get the SAME result as a newer chip | Jan 28 01:30 |
| cubexyz | it's insignificant | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | i7 due to lower nm has a shorter lifespan of operation starstreak | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | its not insigificant | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | before the chip fails. | Jan 28 01:31 |
| oiaohm | If running i7 and pent 3 to max live and proper recycling both the pent 3 is cheaper. | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | yeah and in 5 years when that happens you get a new chip thats 4x faster than that one | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | and uses even less power | Jan 28 01:31 |
| starstreak | so over time less and less power is required for more and more output | Jan 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | while running but you are negletiting recycling. | Jan 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | New silicon contains more parts harder to recycle. | Jan 28 01:32 |
| cubexyz | it's using about 3% of the cpu in IRC | Jan 28 01:32 |
| starstreak | its like cubexyz is dumping truckloads of gas into an SUV to do the same thing as a car which does it in one tank | Jan 28 01:32 |
| cubexyz | I don't even drive, I use public trans | Jan 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the overall picture is harder. | Jan 28 01:33 |
| starstreak | you can get something the power of his p3 in a chip so small you can't even see it | Jan 28 01:33 |
| oiaohm | I remember the case where a person proved that a SUV was less pollution than a electric car. | Jan 28 01:33 |
| oiaohm | So just because something is less pollution in usage you do have to look at the production and disposal costs as well. | Jan 28 01:34 |
| starstreak | really depends where you live for a lot of it | Jan 28 01:34 |
| starstreak | i know cubexyz is in ontario | Jan 28 01:34 |
| starstreak | hes rural too so that p3 is likely a killer on his hydro bill thanks to wynne | Jan 28 01:35 |
| starstreak | no wonder its off ;) | Jan 28 01:35 |
| oiaohm | the electric car one presumed it was running purely on clean power sources for electricity. The production of batteries and that stuff was a nightmare. | Jan 28 01:35 |
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| oiaohm | So if a p3 is getting is electricty from wind or solar exactly what would be the envornmental problem starstreak | Jan 28 01:36 |
| starstreak | the battery at that point | Jan 28 01:36 |
| cubexyz | the batteries for the UPS, or whatever | Jan 28 01:36 |
| starstreak | wind and solar use batteries to provide sustained power during night time and such | Jan 28 01:37 |
| starstreak | you dont want a two second cloud to take down your PC | Jan 28 01:37 |
| starstreak | IDE drives dont like that | Jan 28 01:37 |
| cubexyz | I turn off most of the computers most of the time anyways | Jan 28 01:38 |
| starstreak | to be environmentally friendly in canada and the USA i usually suggest people use ARM unless they need something to play games on | Jan 28 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Next other than a pent 3 low performance. You are aware that most pent 3 systems have smaller PSU than current day x86 systems. | Jan 28 01:39 |
| starstreak | not true | Jan 28 01:39 |
| oiaohm | what wattage do you think is a pent 3 power system. | Jan 28 01:39 |
| cubexyz | the chromebook I use is very low power | Jan 28 01:39 |
| starstreak | i've been able to keep the same PSU across upgrades because components keep using less and less power | Jan 28 01:39 |
| starstreak | no longer am I required to power my video card seperatly from the motherboard for example | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | SSDs less power, NVMe SSDs use motherboard power too | Jan 28 01:40 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | NVMe's are awesome | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | you can get desktop motherboards with them | Jan 28 01:40 |
| starstreak | 2000MB/s read/write per drive for cheaper models | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | I asked a system question what wattage do you think a pent 3 power supply is. | Jan 28 01:41 |
| starstreak | about 500 watts | Jan 28 01:41 |
| starstreak | and less than 80 percent efficient | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | 500 watts is a dual chip pent 3 half of it is adverage pent3 250watts | Jan 28 01:41 |
| starstreak | 80 percent gets you a certification stamp | Jan 28 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Power usage of x86 went up at pent 4 | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | and it went down ever since core2duo | Jan 28 01:42 |
| oiaohm | and we have not got back down there yet. | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | my dual core, core2duo uses 21.5 watts | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | i measured it | Jan 28 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Please note 250watts was the complete pent 3 system. | Jan 28 01:42 |
| starstreak | a complete system, including display, core2duo, 21.5 watts | Jan 28 01:43 |
| cubexyz | the big pig was the CRT anyways, not the computer | Jan 28 01:43 |
| starstreak | running windows it drew 31 watts | Jan 28 01:43 |
| starstreak | probably cuz the graphics driver was actually doing something | Jan 28 01:44 |
| oiaohm | 250watts is the psu rating that the old pent 3 could pull. Yes the CRT was the nightmare that caped how much power those old comptuers could draw. | Jan 28 01:44 |
| cubexyz | a 17 inch CRT used about 75 watts | Jan 28 01:44 |
| starstreak | yeah but thats 250 watts for a p3, im telling you i had a mobile core2duo doing 21.5 watts on linux, 4gb ram, nvidia gpu | Jan 28 01:44 |
| starstreak | core2duo probably does 4x the work | Jan 28 01:44 |
| cubexyz | it's no where near 250 watts | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 250 watts as max rating of the PSU unit. | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: no how much it using. | Jan 28 01:45 |
| starstreak | what does it actually use | Jan 28 01:45 |
| starstreak | each new intel cpu has added hours of battery life to laptops | Jan 28 01:45 |
| starstreak | so think about that kind of efficiency over time | Jan 28 01:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: 16 watts to 40 watts for a pent III cpu depending on the version at full load. | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | less than 100 watts for the entire computer | Jan 28 01:46 |
| starstreak | would you carry around a pentium 3 notebook with you everywhere and hope the battery doesnt fail while you're working on something mobile for half an hour? | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | I think it was about 94.5 watts | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | headless | Jan 28 01:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe a bit less | Jan 28 01:47 |
| starstreak | yeah so already 5x more power than a core2duo that can do 4x more work (at least) | Jan 28 01:47 |
| starstreak | with a display to boot! | Jan 28 01:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: core2due is between 20 to 80 watts in cpu core. | Jan 28 01:48 |
| starstreak | i have a dell xps m1330, it has an intel core2duo 2.1ghz cpu and an nvidia gpu and a built in display | Jan 28 01:48 |
| starstreak | i measured the power using a device and it told me it was using 21.5watts | Jan 28 01:49 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so when looking at total power usage ignoring performance we have gone backwards. Note those figures are max load. | Jan 28 01:49 |
| starstreak | glxgears running, KDE, nvidia drivers | Jan 28 01:49 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 28 01:49 |
| oiaohm | basically pent 3 are not absolute pigs. If it was a pent 2 that would be another matter. | Jan 28 01:49 |
| starstreak | what can you even do on a pentium 3 | Jan 28 01:50 |
| starstreak | KDE itself uses a GB of ram and theres nothing wrong with that when most computers sell with 8 | Jan 28 01:50 |
| starstreak | firefox uses a GB of ram | Jan 28 01:50 |
| cubexyz | oh let's see... IRC... like I'm doing now | Jan 28 01:50 |
| oiaohm | Play quake using a nvidia tnt2 card . | Jan 28 01:50 |
| starstreak | 1080p videos, not working | Jan 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | starstreak, fuck off | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | quake at 1080p? no dice | Jan 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | can you process that? | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | nothing at 1080p | Jan 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | no one cares about your opinions | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | they dont even sell displays that arent 1080p | Jan 28 01:51 |
| oiaohm | quake at 1080 the first version looks like crap. | Jan 28 01:51 |
| starstreak | im even on welfare and my shit doesnt suck like yours | Jan 28 01:51 |
| oiaohm | quake is one of those games where you lower the resolution to make it look good than have 1080p monitor upscale. | Jan 28 01:52 |
| starstreak | you just gotta be good at finding deals and you wont be stuck on a p3 forever | Jan 28 01:52 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: i wouldnt play quake 1 unless they redid it in 1080p or higher | Jan 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | you changed your nick so you could argue you stupid fucker | Jan 28 01:52 |
| starstreak | resolution is one thing, you actually have to make the textures high res too | Jan 28 01:53 |
| starstreak | ad hominem? | Jan 28 01:53 |
| starstreak | i've been pretty civil cubexyz, i've insulted inanimate objects if anything | Jan 28 01:54 |
| starstreak | i haven't dealt into the realm of logical fallacies with the ad homimens, this girl doesnt play that way | Jan 28 01:54 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: this stupid the numbers say for us to get back to pent 3 power levels 7nm chips in x86. So you are about 2 years too soon to complain. | Jan 28 01:55 |
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| starstreak | pentium 3s are just single processors | Jan 28 01:56 |
| starstreak | 7nm chips will likely have 8 or more | Jan 28 01:56 |
| starstreak | someone who knew what they were doing would grab like a cheap ass AMD A8 system for a few hundred and hook thin clients up to virtual machines it hosts | Jan 28 01:57 |
| starstreak | I guess those pentium3's could make useful terminals to connect to a real computer | Jan 28 01:59 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: now exactly what is wrong with the AMD A8 system. Remember larger nm same complexity equals more power usage. Pent 3 is cheeper than current cpu due to lower complexity. | Jan 28 01:59 |
| starstreak | I would have the p3 RDP into a terminal server | Jan 28 01:59 |
| starstreak | you have it backwards | Jan 28 02:00 |
| oiaohm | AMD A8 there s a intel cpu at the same completity. but the intel cpu is lower nm. | Jan 28 02:00 |
| starstreak | yeah | Jan 28 02:00 |
| starstreak | but the intel version probably twice as much for cost | Jan 28 02:00 |
| starstreak | retail | Jan 28 02:01 |
| oiaohm | Basically more transistors more power usage. So lower transistor count lower power usage. nm sets about how much each transistor costs. | Jan 28 02:01 |
| starstreak | yeah i get it | Jan 28 02:01 |
| oiaohm | The current x86 cores have got so many times more complex than a pent 3 so a pent 3 producted at the same level of nm as current intel chips would be highly power effective. | Jan 28 02:02 |
| starstreak | but now im thinking locally just have the old computers run stuff off more powerful host machines | Jan 28 02:02 |
| starstreak | yeah it would but it wouldnt be able to render 1080p video | Jan 28 02:03 |
| starstreak | and you wouldnt be able to run 30 virtual machines on it | Jan 28 02:03 |
| oiaohm | 30 virtual machines is a question how many need that and do they need to be paying the complexity cost all the time. | Jan 28 02:04 |
| starstreak | i think it would be fun to see if i could p2v (physical 2 virtual conversion) all of cube's computers and then run them, and make clones, and more clones, and then run the latest doom | Jan 28 02:04 |
| starstreak | then measure the power and compare | Jan 28 02:04 |
| starstreak | i would probably still use less power | Jan 28 02:05 |
| oiaohm | With AMD and Intel starting to support GPU sharing with virtual machines under linux things are getting interesting. | Jan 28 02:05 |
| starstreak | you can do a lot more per watt | Jan 28 02:05 |
| oiaohm | how much you can do per watt is partly linked to how many instructions you can fit in ram as well. | Jan 28 02:06 |
| starstreak | yeah it will | Jan 28 02:06 |
| starstreak | virtual machines are amazing technology | Jan 28 02:06 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: well thanks for being rational at least | Jan 28 02:07 |
| starstreak | MarkBilk would have been chirping in about using pentium3's cuz of reptilian backdoors | Jan 28 02:07 |
| oiaohm | The problem is the ME backdoors are real. Intel getting the idea of build a network kvm into the ME chip and adding the ablity for ME to run JEFF files(being a form of java that is signed) does not make you feel safe. | Jan 28 02:10 |
| cubexyz | "starstreak" just comes in here to be a pest, there's no logic to it | Jan 28 02:10 |
| cubexyz | put him on ignore | Jan 28 02:10 |
| cubexyz | or better yet, kick him the fuck out | Jan 28 02:11 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: gets worse if you dig into ME you have the idea that intel had the ideal of selling the rights for companies to sell JEFF files that could be placed in firmware to allow the computer to be remotely deleted from the ME chip. | Jan 28 02:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so fear of what the ME chip could do is not illogical. | Jan 28 02:12 |
| starstreak | which will never happen | Jan 28 02:14 |
| starstreak | in most countries unauthorized network access is against the law | Jan 28 02:15 |
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| oiaohm | https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/04/18/intel-amt-remote-secure-erase << here is the feature | Jan 28 02:15 |
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| starstreak | yeah to let you erase your own computer in the event its stolen | Jan 28 02:15 |
| starstreak | great technology | Jan 28 02:15 |
| starstreak | if someone steals my computer, damn right im gonna brick it | Jan 28 02:16 |
| oiaohm | There have been a few cases where a person has bought computer second hand then had it bricked. | Jan 28 02:16 |
| starstreak | those are cases where the purchaser was a moron | Jan 28 02:16 |
| starstreak | or they bought it stolen and didnt know :P | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | happens with iphones all the time | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | i love it, and androids you can crack and recycle if you steal them | Jan 28 02:17 |
| oiaohm | Also a few cases when companies have donated machines then by mistake forgot to remove secure erase then bricked then as well. | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | i dont want some asshole who stole my phone to have the pleasure of using it | Jan 28 02:17 |
| starstreak | unintended consequences | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | human failure | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | if you allow unbricking, a theif will figure that out | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | There are third parties that provide secure erease in firmware. | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | i'd rather it just work | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | so it not exactly easy to be sure intel systems are clean. | Jan 28 02:18 |
| starstreak | all my macbooks and iOS shit is locked down with my icloud | Jan 28 02:18 |
| oiaohm | neither are amd systems eitehr. | Jan 28 02:19 |
| starstreak | if someone took my iphone, it would remain locked unable to power down while i run to a web browser and GPS track it | Jan 28 02:19 |
| starstreak | same with my laptop except ATX standards kinda force you to be able to power it off | Jan 28 02:20 |
| cubexyz | GE nuclear power plants still use PDP-11s | Jan 28 02:21 |
| starstreak | it creates a pretty big market for iphone parts since criminals can't use any of the memory | Jan 28 02:21 |
| starstreak | which is soldiered on | Jan 28 02:22 |
| MinceR | at least microsoft crap won't run on PDP-11s | Jan 28 02:22 |
| MinceR | and neither will apple crap | Jan 28 02:22 |
| MinceR | so they can't spew fallout on us ;) | Jan 28 02:22 |
| starstreak | oh the digital dark age people | Jan 28 02:22 |
| cubexyz | they have to know those systems 100% | Jan 28 02:22 |
| cubexyz | no messing around | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | no its because they're so old radiation isn't a problem | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | so much lead | Jan 28 02:23 |
| MinceR | it's a pity this "i can know these systems 100%" is a thing of the past | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | its nothing to do with your free software religion | Jan 28 02:23 |
| starstreak | im sure the employees would love a computer that could run facebook in another window | Jan 28 02:24 |
| MinceR | what are you talking about? | Jan 28 02:25 |
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| starstreak | you wont find PDP11s running in Candu earthquake proof reactors | Jan 28 02:26 |
| starstreak | http://www.mapps.l-3com.com/candu-plant-control-systems.html | Jan 28 02:27 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR is right, you can't know the systems 100% because of the Intel ME being under strict NDA | Jan 28 02:29 |
| starstreak | intel still can't break the law | Jan 28 02:29 |
| cubexyz | the intel people will not talk about it, except in a general sense | Jan 28 02:29 |
| starstreak | they would need your permission to brick your CPU, and every canadian court judge would be against Intel doing it on their own | Jan 28 02:30 |
| starstreak | just like microsoft COULD spy on you, but it would be ILLEGAL | Jan 28 02:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | so naive | Jan 28 02:31 |
| starstreak | the press would love that | Jan 28 02:31 |
| starstreak | twitter would eat it up if it ever happened | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | for one thing, if they aren't caught, the courts and the press won't even hear of it | Jan 28 02:31 |
| starstreak | what makes you think they would? | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | for another thing, lawyers are among their primary expenses | Jan 28 02:31 |
| MinceR | they have you "sign" tons of legalese when you start using their crap, covering their ass | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | in Canada the lawyers cant do that shit | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | they still havent been able to sue any pirates | Jan 28 02:32 |
| MinceR | and they're in cahoots with various us government institutions operating on secret laws, secret interpretations and secret courts | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | if you believe in conspiracy theories like that then anyone is capable of anything | Jan 28 02:32 |
| MinceR | also, that same government is probably heavily backdoored by them already | Jan 28 02:32 |
| starstreak | so a global conspiracy? | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | and even if they were very hesitant to use these backdoors against you, that wouldn't prevent them from existing | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | you're working with an interesting definition of "global" there | Jan 28 02:33 |
| starstreak | well not every government is the same | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | indeed, the us government may very well have coerced or encouraged them to fill their crap with backdoors | Jan 28 02:33 |
| starstreak | so they've infiltrated all governments to backdoor computers? | Jan 28 02:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, not every government has the same power either | Jan 28 02:34 |
| starstreak | why backdoor computers when everyone posts their daily lives on social media and people throw away their computers after 2 years? | Jan 28 02:34 |
| starstreak | sounds rather silly and pointless | Jan 28 02:34 |
| MinceR | also, for some of these backdoors, they might even have some means of plausible deniability -- they could say it's just an unfortunate programming mistake that makes, say, Intel AMT available as a backdoor to an unauthorized intruder when it's supposed to be turned off | Jan 28 02:35 |
| starstreak | what are you doing thats so secret? | Jan 28 02:35 |
| starstreak | i think the NSA probably should be watching you | Jan 28 02:35 |
| MinceR | well, ask the NSA why they spend so much of the taxpayers' money on weakening and breaking systems the taxpayers rely on for their security and privacy | Jan 28 02:35 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter what you think, they're trying to watch everyone | Jan 28 02:36 |
| MinceR | and then struggling to figure out what to do with all the data they collect without aim | Jan 28 02:36 |
| starstreak | if you spend 99% of your computer time on irc, they dont need a backdoor, they got a roydoor | Jan 28 02:36 |
| starstreak | there are more efficient ways to spy on people | Jan 28 02:36 |
| MinceR | my irc client is not made by your favorite programmers, so it doesn't need 99% cpu time | Jan 28 02:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: what law is the question. Please note intel operations cross into many countries not all is it a crime to remote nuke contents of a computer they don't own. | Jan 28 02:37 |
| starstreak | in most countries "unauthorized computer access" is a crime | Jan 28 02:37 |
| MinceR | it would be nice if rule of law applied to rich people and megacorporations too, no doubt | Jan 28 02:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: but that is not every country intel operates in. | Jan 28 02:37 |
| starstreak | im in Canada, so they cant do it to me | Jan 28 02:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, and in most countries state institutions decide what crimes to prosecute | Jan 28 02:37 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: both countries it has to be illegal to push criminal charge. | Jan 28 02:38 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: source and desinsation. | Jan 28 02:38 |
| starstreak | intel has operations in canada | Jan 28 02:38 |
| starstreak | they would be answering for it | Jan 28 02:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's the way it works, doesn't it? | Jan 28 02:38 |
| MarkBilk | starstreak: "<starstreak> MarkBilk would have been chirping in about using pentium3's cuz of reptilian backdoors" | Jan 28 02:38 |
| starstreak | it does | Jan 28 02:38 |
| oiaohm | intel operations canada do not have to answer for intel operations done in another one of their country branches. | Jan 28 02:39 |
| starstreak | cuz i've gone to the human rights comission of ontario to go after my american head office | Jan 28 02:39 |
| starstreak | they had no problem doing so | Jan 28 02:39 |
| cubexyz | ah, starstreak is busy making more friends tonight :) | Jan 28 02:39 |
| cubexyz | maybe he can piss everyone off | Jan 28 02:39 |
| MinceR | seems more like he's busy daydreaming about how rule of law works everywhere | Jan 28 02:39 |
| MinceR | and how there's no corruption anywhere | Jan 28 02:39 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: and if it not the american head office. Please remember intel is a decentalised designed multi national. | Jan 28 02:40 |
| starstreak | what am I saying that would cause anger? | Jan 28 02:40 |
| MinceR | oh, that brings something to mind that i've read about recently | Jan 28 02:40 |
| starstreak | seems like a logical and rational debate | Jan 28 02:40 |
| MinceR | http://cphpost.dk/news/business/denmark-gets-worlds-first-digital-ambassador.html | Jan 28 02:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Denmark to appoint world’s first digital ambassador – The Post | Jan 28 02:40 | |
| MinceR | if this isn't institutionalized corruption then i wonder what is | Jan 28 02:40 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so legally intel can can attack just from the right office and there would be absolutely nothing you could do about it. | Jan 28 02:40 |
| starstreak | if you have to switch from debate mode into a barrage of personal attacks and insults, that might be mental illness | Jan 28 02:40 |
| MarkBilk | Doesn't worry me at all. Any reptilians that come out of my computer get a flamethrower up the keister! | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MinceR | what about the feds who come knocking to inquire about the flamethrower? | Jan 28 02:41 |
| MinceR | "it's to kill weeds in my lawn, as far as you know" | Jan 28 02:41 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: intel would get sued in canada, and since they do business in canada, their canadian subsidiary would be responsible for all of intel's actions in canada | Jan 28 02:41 |
| starstreak | the privacy comissioner has to investigate every case submitted | Jan 28 02:42 |
| starstreak | but this is Canada and yeah i get it, you people need to move here to enjoy freedom again | Jan 28 02:43 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the canadian subsidiary is a independent entity. This was found in the pentuim FOOF bug when some canada wanted compesnation for it. | Jan 28 02:43 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so case history says your idea is bogus. | Jan 28 02:43 |
| MinceR | if only laws regarding anticompetitive practices were enforced as conscientously as starstreak imagines | Jan 28 02:43 |
| MinceR | we would have no uefi, no microsoft tax | Jan 28 02:44 |
| starstreak | well the car in my driveway says american companies ARE liable for their actions in canada | Jan 28 02:44 |
| starstreak | :P | Jan 28 02:44 |
| MinceR | probably no microsoft either | Jan 28 02:44 |
| cubexyz | don't forget price fixing.... | Jan 28 02:44 |
| cubexyz | on memory chips, probably other ones as well | Jan 28 02:44 |
| starstreak | i reported an american based company for age discrimination on wages saying they paid older people more, and i won what bought me my car | Jan 28 02:45 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jan 28 02:45 |
| starstreak | so dont tell me what i've witnessed myself as canadian government agencies going after american companies successfully | Jan 28 02:45 |
| MinceR | the cost to them was probably insignificant next to their profits | Jan 28 02:45 |
| starstreak | learn from me | Jan 28 02:46 |
| starstreak | you dont get rights unless you fight for them | Jan 28 02:46 |
| MinceR | if i had a dollar from everyone who told me to ignore reality and listen to their ideas instead, i'd be a rich person | Jan 28 02:46 |
| starstreak | so no wonder you think theres a global conspiracy out to spy on you when nobody gives a fuck | Jan 28 02:46 |
| MinceR | no, you don't get rights unless you're rich and powerful | Jan 28 02:46 |
| starstreak | conspiracy theories again | Jan 28 02:46 |
| MinceR | can you explain what the conspiracy is? | Jan 28 02:47 |
| starstreak | CRTC in Canada just said all ISPS have to offer unlimited | Jan 28 02:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: key word is American Intel is not just American https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/50863/000119312512075534/d302695dex211.htm State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation list there is important. | Jan 28 02:47 |
| MinceR | or are you just throwing a word around without even knowing what it means? | Jan 28 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sec.gov | INTEL CORPORATION SUBSIDIARIES [ http://ur1.ca/qefd7 ] | Jan 28 02:47 | |
| starstreak | yeah you think all these rich and so called powerful people can't be stopped | Jan 28 02:47 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation lists the legal locations intel could be operating from. | Jan 28 02:47 |
| MinceR | oh, they can be stopped | Jan 28 02:47 |
| starstreak | that they are planning together | Jan 28 02:48 |
| MinceR | i didn't say they were planning together | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | its just a theory though | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | in reality, old people are just dumb | Jan 28 02:48 |
| MinceR | in reality, almost all people are dumb | Jan 28 02:48 |
| MinceR | regardless of age | Jan 28 02:48 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: as soon as you get into multi national companies doing cases against them is hard. | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | its the baby boomers, not the rich | Jan 28 02:48 |
| starstreak | rich people get fucked over by baby boomers too | Jan 28 02:49 |
| MinceR | depends on how rich they are | Jan 28 02:49 |
| starstreak | these people fly around the world to meet in person because they are technophobes who cant launch a simple video voip program | Jan 28 02:49 |
| starstreak | destroying the planet cause pushing a button is too hard | Jan 28 02:49 |
| oiaohm | There are reasons to meet in person. You find Linux conferences doing security key sharing in person. | Jan 28 02:50 |
| starstreak | stop looking at wealth and start looking at age and you'll start to see the real conspiracies | Jan 28 02:50 |
| MinceR | pay no attention to the man behind the curtain | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | the man behind the curtain | Jan 28 02:51 |
| MinceR | so, what are some of these "real conspiracies"? | Jan 28 02:51 |
| oiaohm | Using a simple voip program that is too simple could end up doing it unencrypted so leaking what you are doing to the world. | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | keywords man: old, white, baby boomer | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | old people who conspire together as part of the "old boys club" | Jan 28 02:51 |
| starstreak | you mistake them as rich cuz some are | Jan 28 02:51 |
| MinceR | to do what? | Jan 28 02:52 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: sorry some business men avoid technology for things not because they are technophobes but because they understand security risk. | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | all the shit you are blaming the rich and powerful on | Jan 28 02:52 |
| MinceR | so very specific | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | they're rich cuz their old and powerful cuz of their networking with others their age | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | and their hate for younger people | Jan 28 02:52 |
| MinceR | so you're saying that the people running these corrupt megacorporations are not the people who own them, but random old people? | Jan 28 02:52 |
| MinceR | that's interesting | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | no | Jan 28 02:52 |
| starstreak | some happen to be running megacorps | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | some make nothing working as a politician | Jan 28 02:53 |
| MinceR | which happen to be involved in some well documented business that infringes on human rights, rule of law, security, etc. | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | some just want to keep taxes low so their pension payouts are higher | Jan 28 02:53 |
| MarkBilk | Any idea who the "starstreak" troll is? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | troll? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| cubexyz | someone give me ops :) | Jan 28 02:53 |
| MinceR | you do realize that a politician has other sources of wealth than their official salary from the government, right? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | what have i done wrong? | Jan 28 02:53 |
| starstreak | have an opinion? | Jan 28 02:54 |
| starstreak | or cuz im a trans woman? | Jan 28 02:54 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: why suspected troll is lot of things are lack of research. Like icloud has been beaten a few times. Apple runs around doing DCMA take downs on the tools. | Jan 28 02:55 |
| MarkBilk | Who knows what you are? | Jan 28 02:55 |
| starstreak | nothing in computers are totally secure | Jan 28 02:55 |
| MinceR | and who cares? | Jan 28 02:55 |
| cubexyz | we don't | Jan 28 02:55 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: but there are levels of security. | Jan 28 02:55 |
| MinceR | we're not crybullies, we're not alt-reich (afaik) so we don't care | Jan 28 02:56 |
| starstreak | "omg apple has had security exploits" | Jan 28 02:56 |
| starstreak | like linux hasnt | Jan 28 02:56 |
| MinceR | apple has built-in backdoors at least in ios, probably also macos by now | Jan 28 02:56 |
| MinceR | hell, customers don't have effective admin rights on apple mobile devices and apple does | Jan 28 02:56 |
| starstreak | and the FBI had to hire McAfee to get into the san bernadino phone | Jan 28 02:56 |
| MinceR | now even microsoft can push arbitrary code to be executed to windows 10 any time and this is well documented | Jan 28 02:57 |
| cubexyz | I care about repairability, programming, data sheets, & source code | Jan 28 02:57 |
| MinceR | no, the FBI was trying to get a precedent, to make things easier and cheaper for them | Jan 28 02:57 |
| MinceR | and apple tried to play the great privacy heroes while trying to save costs | Jan 28 02:57 |
| starstreak | at the end of the day, Apple wasn't a government backdoor :P | Jan 28 02:57 |
| starstreak | if they were, FBI wouldnt have had to go to court | Jan 28 02:58 |
| MinceR | actually they would still go to court if that's the way to ensure that they get the backdoor used for their needs _every_ time | Jan 28 02:58 |
| MinceR | not the same as having to ask apple for a favor every time | Jan 28 02:58 |
| starstreak | you've said they already have a backdoor for their every time needs | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | (which they can do privately, by the way) | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | apple does | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | including every company | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | i don't know who else does | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | they all have backdoors | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | they may well let the NSA use it freely | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | everything has backdoors, exploits and security bugs | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | but the FBI is not the NSA | Jan 28 02:59 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: not true. | Jan 28 02:59 |
| starstreak | yes its true | Jan 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | also, there are algorithms (like Dual_EC_DRBG) that were backdoored by the NSA | Jan 28 03:00 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: tell me a back door in sel4 | Jan 28 03:00 |
| starstreak | if you've worked in computer security, you know that all that is required is time and money | Jan 28 03:00 |
| MinceR | the NSA did approach Linus to put a backdoor in Linux, he refused | Jan 28 03:00 |
| MinceR | (as far as we know, anyway) | Jan 28 03:00 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: come on you said everything has backdoors. I have named a OS without one. | Jan 28 03:00 |
| MinceR | then they apparently went to red hat to have them come up with systemd instead | Jan 28 03:00 |
| starstreak | if sel4 doesnt, whatever its connected to would | Jan 28 03:01 |
| starstreak | routers, switches | Jan 28 03:01 |
| MinceR | routers and switches do not have the same level of access, even if they're backdoored | Jan 28 03:01 |
| starstreak | theres so many backdoors on devices carrying your data it would be mentally unhealthy to worry about it all | Jan 28 03:01 |
| MinceR | now a baseband processor in a mobile device that has full DMA access to the main RAM, on the other hand... | Jan 28 03:01 |
| cubexyz | you can reprogram the firmware on some routers | Jan 28 03:01 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://sel4.systems/ what sel4 is made for is making routers and switches that are not flawed. | Jan 28 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sel4.systems | Home | seL4 | Jan 28 03:02 | |
| MinceR | see, this is why it would be nice to be able to have computers we can know and understand in every detail | Jan 28 03:02 |
| starstreak | and people only buy cisco | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | dumb people, maybe | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | cisco's approach to security is a joke | Jan 28 03:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: its possible to make very secure stuff but it costs lots of resources. | Jan 28 03:02 |
| starstreak | people who want to make money | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | i wonder how using flawed and insecure products generates revenue | Jan 28 03:02 |
| starstreak | computers are throwaway devices | Jan 28 03:02 |
| MinceR | yours are, probably | Jan 28 03:03 |
| MinceR | for most consumers, computers are appliances | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | the data is what matters | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | why does the computer matter | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | its obsolete in 3 months | Jan 28 03:03 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the arguement that everything is flawed is an excuse not to ask for mathematically secure. | Jan 28 03:03 |
| starstreak | right but dont assume you're shit is secure | Jan 28 03:04 |
| MinceR | and once you throw out the computer, you may find out that the next one can't decode your data | Jan 28 03:04 |
| starstreak | anyone who wanted to spy on you, can, and will | Jan 28 03:04 |
| MinceR | obviously you shouldn't assume | Jan 28 03:04 |
| starstreak | i think the twittersphere would blow up if people suddenly couldnt own a computer that could decode text files | Jan 28 03:05 |
| starstreak | the linux world didnt end with UEFI Secure boot, it ended with nutjobs like you | Jan 28 03:06 |
| starstreak | Redhat is pushing UEFI secure boot enabled RHEL and its amazing | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | all your data are text files? | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | >calls people nutjobs randomly | Jan 28 03:06 |
| starstreak | my important shit is | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | >can't understand why people call him a troll | Jan 28 03:06 |
| starstreak | mbox is just text | Jan 28 03:06 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, don't you have ops? | Jan 28 03:06 |
| MinceR | at least you finally revealed why you're here | Jan 28 03:07 |
| starstreak | my first personal attack of tonight | Jan 28 03:07 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i do, but i can't really use them | Jan 28 03:07 |
| MinceR | starstreak: no, not the first | Jan 28 03:07 |
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| MinceR | starstreak: perhaps you don't realize that your idols have not shut the doors on restricted boot yet, just made it more difficult to use with every major windows release | Jan 28 03:07 |
| starstreak | cubexyz: why do you have this need to silence me from everyone else? | Jan 28 03:08 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: Redhat has had to push very had to undo the first UEFI design Lot of work redhat has got it so we can change the PK on uefi systems. | Jan 28 03:08 |
| starstreak | its probably a good thing to russel this echo camber up once in a while | Jan 28 03:08 |
| MinceR | you should have read the public logs, then you'd know this is not an echo chamber | Jan 28 03:09 |
| starstreak | i learned sometimes its useful to have shit like p3s kicking around for some niche shit | Jan 28 03:09 |
| MinceR | interesting, you just attacked someone for having the audacity to have some p3s around | Jan 28 03:09 |
| starstreak | echo chamber, sorry, meant a circle jerk | Jan 28 03:09 |
| MinceR | now you're just throwing shit at the wall | Jan 28 03:10 |
| starstreak | attacked? i said he was killing the planet | Jan 28 03:10 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: you started with a personal attack. | Jan 28 03:10 |
| MinceR | trying to find what you get kickbanned for | Jan 28 03:10 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: the fact he was not killing the planet you did not understand all the fact and then you did not say sorry. | Jan 28 03:10 |
| MinceR | starstreak: you do realize that once your beloved redhat manages to destroy unix, microsoft will just lock out the keys redhat has bought, right? | Jan 28 03:10 |
| starstreak | if im getting kickbanned is cubexyz too? | Jan 28 03:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz is not trolling, you are | Jan 28 03:11 |
| starstreak | how am i trolling | Jan 28 03:11 |
| MinceR | besides, we have a tradition of keeping trolls around | Jan 28 03:11 |
| starstreak | im not trying to make people mad | Jan 28 03:11 |
| starstreak | if a debate makes you mad thats not healthy | Jan 28 03:11 |
| cubexyz | I think after a certain point a 24-hour ban is appropriate | Jan 28 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Redhat bought keys because they had no choice to do business. Places like Debian are still have trouble. | Jan 28 03:11 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: have you seen the conditions microsoft puts on signing firmware loaders. | Jan 28 03:12 |
| starstreak | oiaohm: debian can use the linux foundations key | Jan 28 03:12 |
| MinceR | a debate is one thing, shitslinging is another | Jan 28 03:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so you have not. | Jan 28 03:12 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: do the wrong things Microsoft will revoke the signing. | Jan 28 03:12 |
| MinceR | so you don't see what's wrong with paying microsoft for the right to have your code boot somewhat easier on uefi appliances, do you? | Jan 28 03:12 |
| oiaohm | This is why replacing the PK and installing you own KEK is so important. | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | (or letting them be the gatekeeper of them in the first place) | Jan 28 03:13 |
| starstreak | they arent the gatekeeper | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | no, this is why uefi should die | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | yes they are | Jan 28 03:13 |
| starstreak | they are not | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | so why did redhat and canonical pay them? | Jan 28 03:13 |
| starstreak | i just bought a lenovo server for a township deployment that came with no keys | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | and why do they get to dictate what uefi is like on what used to be pcs? | Jan 28 03:13 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jan 28 03:14 |
| starstreak | i have to install the OS and then it can get keys from that | Jan 28 03:14 |
| starstreak | so microsoft had nothing to do with that UEFI implementation | Jan 28 03:14 |
| MinceR | go tell redhat and canonical, maybe they can get a refund | Jan 28 03:15 |
| starstreak | theres nothing wrong with UEFI or secure boot, and most companies like ASUS and Gigabyte who make motherboards for PCs dont give a shit what microsoft thinks | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | (and apparently the Linux-destroying Foundation too) | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | so you keep insisting | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | without any evidence | Jan 28 03:15 |
| starstreak | i build computers every day | Jan 28 03:15 |
| starstreak | every bios has had custom keys, or the ability to disable secure boot | Jan 28 03:15 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot the worst bit is to get a shim signed by Microsoft you have to run Microsoft windows to upload. | Jan 28 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | SecureBoot - Debian Wiki | Jan 28 03:15 | |
| MinceR | and you think putting hardware modules together has enlightened you on how the internals work? | Jan 28 03:15 |
| MinceR | nice, another spit in the face of competition | Jan 28 03:16 |
| starstreak | well if you invent conspiracy theories you cant prove i guess you can apply them to everything | Jan 28 03:16 |
| MinceR | why don't you put more effort into your insults? | Jan 28 03:16 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: yes every bios has custom keys option but they do it differently. | Jan 28 03:16 |
| starstreak | show me Microsofts contract with ASUS and Gigabyte | Jan 28 03:16 |
| MinceR | a markov model could do better work than you | Jan 28 03:16 |
| MinceR | it seems to me redhat isn't getting their money's worth | Jan 28 03:16 |
| starstreak | if you think thats an insult you're more of a princess than I am | Jan 28 03:17 |
| MinceR | well, at least that's a bit more imaginative | Jan 28 03:17 |
| MinceR | still, no substance | Jan 28 03:17 |
| starstreak | oh well im not trying to insult you | Jan 28 03:17 |
| starstreak | i got triggered by "p3" cuz im trying to save the planet | Jan 28 03:18 |
| MinceR | from whom? | Jan 28 03:18 |
| cubexyz | new Intel CPUS: "They come with Intel Boot Guard and you are won't be able to boot anything which is unsigned and not approved by OEM. This means the OEM are fusing SHA256 public key hashes into the southbridge" | Jan 28 03:18 |
| MinceR | people who'd like to have a computer that obeys them and only them? | Jan 28 03:19 |
| cubexyz | so people will be locked out of coreboot or alternative firmware | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | so why not buy ARM | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | MIPS | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | PPC | Jan 28 03:19 |
| MinceR | ARM devices also tend to be locked down | Jan 28 03:19 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: again commenting without information. | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | you can get unlocked arm devices fairly easy | Jan 28 03:19 |
| cubexyz | intel boot guard was a 4th gen thing (Haswell) | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | they would also handle 1080p video unlike a p3 | Jan 28 03:19 |
| MinceR | i'm planning to try to build a computer with an FPGA | Jan 28 03:19 |
| starstreak | i wasnt suggesting throwing away a p3 to buy an i7 with windows 10 and shit | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | a raspi would crush a p3 | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | im sure hes just using desktop stuff | Jan 28 03:20 |
| MinceR | rpi-s are pretty great, i'm typing on one | Jan 28 03:20 |
| MinceR | but they're not perfect | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | yeah they're awesome | Jan 28 03:20 |
| starstreak | and not 100 watts | Jan 28 03:20 |
| MinceR | they still have nonfree firmware, afaik | Jan 28 03:20 |
| cubexyz | some of the chinese FPGA's have backdoors I'm sorry to say | Jan 28 03:21 |
| oiaohm | raspi still have stablitity issues. | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | though people are working on that too | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: how sophisticated are they? | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: perhaps their effect could be mitigated | Jan 28 03:21 |
| oiaohm | and raspi have black boxes including really strange things like the raspi equal to me chip being the GPU. | Jan 28 03:21 |
| MinceR | (or i'll just have to have ASICs manufactured someday...) | Jan 28 03:21 |
| starstreak | rraspi is popular | Jan 28 03:21 |
| starstreak | there are other super chinese arm devices with killer hardware | Jan 28 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Popular and sanely designed don't always align. | Jan 28 03:22 |
| starstreak | im sure linux runs my goluk | Jan 28 03:22 |
| cubexyz | some stuff is really buried deep, that's why folks are talking about decapping and xraying chips nowadays | Jan 28 03:22 |
| MinceR | most SBCs have far worse support than rpi-s | Jan 28 03:22 |
| MinceR | i have a CubieTruck but i can't get it to run 1080p | Jan 28 03:22 |
| MinceR | it just crashes with a screen full of random pixels | Jan 28 03:22 |
| cubexyz | there's a whole CPU buried in some motherboards that people don't even know about | Jan 28 03:22 |
| starstreak | i got this "Goluk Super Fun Dashcam" and it has a built in wifi router and records in 1080p constantly on a loop | Jan 28 03:23 |
| starstreak | probably runs on one of those ASICs | Jan 28 03:23 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, it was one of the military grade FPGAs | Jan 28 03:23 |
| cubexyz | Actel/Microsemi ProASIC3 chip specifically | Jan 28 03:23 |
| oiaohm | This is a fun device https://www.crowdsupply.com/numato-lab/opsis | Jan 28 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Numato Opsis: FPGA-based open video platform | Crowd Supply | Jan 28 03:23 | |
| MinceR | yeah, looks nice | Jan 28 03:24 |
| oiaohm | Ok not a PC but open source conference got sick of the video capture and retransmit devices failing mid confernce so made their own. | Jan 28 03:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 03:24 |
| oiaohm | Yes 2 1080p in with 2 1080 out. | Jan 28 03:24 |
| starstreak | i love this | Jan 28 03:25 |
| starstreak | https://wifipineapple.com/ | Jan 28 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wifipineapple.com | WiFi Pineapple - Home | Jan 28 03:25 | |
| cubexyz | anyways, you probably want to avoid the Actel ProASIC3 one | Jan 28 03:25 |
| cubexyz | sometimes it's not malicious | Jan 28 03:26 |
| cubexyz | "we forgot about that debugging backdoor" | Jan 28 03:26 |
| cubexyz | still... | Jan 28 03:26 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 03:26 |
| starstreak | they probably did forget | Jan 28 03:27 |
| starstreak | humans afterall | Jan 28 03:27 |
| MinceR | how well can an FPGA backdoor work if it's configured in a way the designers of the backdoor didn't know in advance? | Jan 28 03:28 |
| starstreak | i would give them the benefit of the doubt unless it happened again | Jan 28 03:28 |
| MinceR | say, with some sort of free software SoC design, with potential modifications | Jan 28 03:28 |
| cubexyz | only the original designers would really know | Jan 28 03:30 |
| cubexyz | the designers of the FPGA that is | Jan 28 03:31 |
| oiaohm | This is where it comes hard with FPGA you have to worry about complier. the opsis end up not using any of the makers library of template code for the FPGA mostly because those turn out to be strangely oversized. | Jan 28 03:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 03:32 |
| MinceR | afaik there is a free software compiler (or equivalent) for FPGA | Jan 28 03:32 |
| oiaohm | opsis is covered in the LCA2017 conference videos. | Jan 28 03:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: for some FPGA yes like icestorm. | Jan 28 03:32 |
| MinceR | https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/getting-started-with-fpga-with-only-free-and-open-source-software-and-hardware-tools-tutorial/ | Jan 28 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olimex.wordpress.com | Getting started with FPGA with only Free and Open source software and hardware tools tutorial | olimex [ http://ur1.ca/qefm7 ] | Jan 28 03:32 | |
| cubexyz | and I think the FPGA could always be reprogrammed every time it's turned on | Jan 28 03:33 |
| MinceR | is that necessary? | Jan 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | the FPGA bitstream has to be reloaded from the EEPROM every time power is applied | Jan 28 03:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | I think you might want a CPLD instead | Jan 28 03:35 |
| cubexyz | but the question is, how powerful will it be? | Jan 28 03:35 |
| MinceR | i don't know the internals of FPGAs and CPLDs too well | Jan 28 03:36 |
| MinceR | the idea would be to build a free software general purpose computer on them | Jan 28 03:36 |
| cubexyz | but I know the CPLD is non-volatile | Jan 28 03:36 |
| MinceR | with enough power to run contemporary free unixes, X, applications, etc. | Jan 28 03:37 |
| MinceR | though the steps that lead to this would be simpler and lower powered | Jan 28 03:37 |
| MinceR | a big realization for me was that the non-IC-based computer i read about was so big and yet so slow | Jan 28 03:40 |
| MinceR | forgot the name | Jan 28 03:40 |
| MinceR | but it seemed to follow that i would need to rely on ICs if i were to build a practical computer | Jan 28 03:40 |
| cubexyz | depends on what you what | Jan 28 03:41 |
| cubexyz | if the idea is just understanding you could go down to the logic gate level | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | >CPLDs typically have the equivalent of thousands to tens of thousands of logic gates | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it would be enough | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | well, part of it is understanding | Jan 28 03:41 |
| MinceR | but part of it is having a general purpose computer that is backdoorless with a high confidence | Jan 28 03:42 |
| cubexyz | some bad hat hacker could possibly KO your FPGA and that would suck | Jan 28 03:42 |
| MinceR | how? | Jan 28 03:42 |
| cubexyz | not sure how, but it's non permanent | Jan 28 03:42 |
| cubexyz | like a black hat could maybe erase your BIOS chip | Jan 28 03:43 |
| MinceR | also, maybe some processes could be farmed out to untrusted devices, but i haven't figured any of that out yet | Jan 28 03:43 |
| cubexyz | but I guess you could just reprogram it again | Jan 28 03:43 |
| MinceR | hopefully i can either integrate a switch/jumper of some sort to make it readonly | Jan 28 03:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember you can put a write protect switch on a FPGA flash. | Jan 28 03:44 |
| MinceR | or just require taking it out of the socket for programming | Jan 28 03:44 |
| cubexyz | is there a physical switch, or is it just software? | Jan 28 03:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: board design some fpga boards have a physical switch some don't. | Jan 28 03:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: biggest issue with FPGA is lack of speed like 100Mhz cpu is kind pushing it. | Jan 28 03:45 |
| MinceR | that could be difficult to work with | Jan 28 03:45 |
| cubexyz | 100 mhz is good enough for a lot of things though | Jan 28 03:46 |
| cubexyz | IRC, email, any ncurses program | Jan 28 03:46 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 28 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Note I said 100mhz is kinda pushing it more back around 30 to 50mhz in less effective cpu designs. | Jan 28 03:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 17.04 Opt-In Flavors Finally Get Their Alpha...' | Jan 28 03:50 | |
| cubexyz | you could build a computer from TTL chips | Jan 28 04:01 |
| cubexyz | e.g. SN7400 has 4 NAND gates | Jan 28 04:01 |
| cubexyz | that's pretty low level | Jan 28 04:02 |
| cubexyz | you could even make a logic gate from transistors | Jan 28 04:02 |
| cubexyz | but I'd draw the line at the IC level | Jan 28 04:03 |
| cubexyz | that's early 1970s era | Jan 28 04:06 |
| cubexyz | you want to learn stuff one interesting simulator is Atanua | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | http://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&wihttp://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=falsedth=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | oops sorry | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | http://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/atanua_230430_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false | Jan 28 04:19 |
| cubexyz | better link: | Jan 28 04:20 |
| cubexyz | http://sol.gfxile.net/atanua/index.html | Jan 28 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sol.gfxile.net | Atanua - About | Jan 28 04:20 | |
| cubexyz | maybe there's a FOSS one somewhere | Jan 28 04:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 04:21 |
| cubexyz | http://alternativeto.net/software/digital-logic-design/ | Jan 28 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digital Logic Design Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net [ http://ur1.ca/qefvs ] | Jan 28 04:21 | |
| cubexyz | here's one that works in the browser: | Jan 28 04:25 |
| cubexyz | http://www.neuroproductions.be/logic-lab/ | Jan 28 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neuroproductions.be | The Logic Lab: simulating simple circuits of logic gates [ http://ur1.ca/qefwk ] | Jan 28 04:25 | |
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| MinceR | https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6OInpdIqucs/WIvR2YAOmeI/AAAAAAAAbrs/53-HO261B_kaeW0u2SxC2XVeybZJ4XPWACPcB/s1600/Directions%2Bunclear%2B-%2Bbuilt%2Bwall%2Bmade%2Bof%2Billegal%2Bimmigrants.png | Jan 28 04:47 |
| starstreak | Does anyone here have a security certifciation? | Jan 28 04:52 |
| *starstreak is now known as ender2070 | Jan 28 04:52 | |
| MinceR | well, i suppose i do | Jan 28 04:53 |
| ender2070 | seriously? | Jan 28 04:54 |
| ender2070 | cuz then you would have packet logs of microsoft and apple doing evil shit right? | Jan 28 04:55 |
| MinceR | it does not follow | Jan 28 04:55 |
| MinceR | my special (dunno if that's the right term) at university was Security of Information and Communication Systems; and i also have some certification related to an IT security product i worked on | Jan 28 04:56 |
| MinceR | that said, some of the evil shit microsoft and apple did is pretty damn public | Jan 28 04:56 |
| ender2070 | packet logs or it didn't happen | Jan 28 04:57 |
| MinceR | hell, some of them they had you sign they had the right to do when you first used their crap | Jan 28 04:57 |
| MinceR | like the stuff on updating DRM mechanisms in the winblows EULA | Jan 28 04:57 |
| MinceR | there was some (surprisingly minor) outrage about Backdoors10 having no way to opt out of 'updates' for consumer versions | Jan 28 04:58 |
| MinceR | which is, again, arbitrary code execution | Jan 28 04:58 |
| *ender2070 gets popcorn | Jan 28 04:58 | |
| MinceR | and hypeOS also had some mechanism to push code, iirc | Jan 28 04:58 |
| MinceR | (it was longer ago, so the details are not quite clear) | Jan 28 04:59 |
| MinceR | baseband processors' ability to function at least in theory as a backdoor is also documented | Jan 28 04:59 |
| MinceR | iirc there was something concrete about some samsung stuff | Jan 28 04:59 |
| ender2070 | samsung powers the majority of android devices currently claiming smartphone marketshare over apple | Jan 28 05:00 |
| MinceR | ikr | Jan 28 05:00 |
| MinceR | basically if the baseband processor can do DMA to the RAM you run applications from (which seems to be desirable for fast internet connections), you can't trust that device too much | Jan 28 05:00 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jan 28 05:00 |
| ender2070 | what if you aren't a terrorist? | Jan 28 05:01 |
| MinceR | my practice regarding this is to have it tether (over WiFi or USB) to a laptop or non-3G tablet and run the sensitive stuff on that | Jan 28 05:01 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Jan 28 05:01 |
| MinceR | they'll proclaim you to be a terrorist when it's convenient for them to do so | Jan 28 05:01 |
| ender2070 | there is 7 billion people on earth | Jan 28 05:01 |
| ender2070 | why would the NSA give a shit unless you're a terrorist? | Jan 28 05:02 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jan 28 05:02 |
| MinceR | they've been accused of doing stuff like insider trading | Jan 28 05:02 |
| ender2070 | yeah but some random dude in europe is a threat that needs to be watched? | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | the official excuse might be something like using 'Big Data' to find out _if_ you're a terrorist | Jan 28 05:03 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | they seem to be trying to watch everyone | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | and afaik it isn't really working out in practice | Jan 28 05:03 |
| ender2070 | there are a lot more people higher up in the list than you | Jan 28 05:03 |
| ender2070 | i actually feel bad for the NSA | Jan 28 05:03 |
| MinceR | the point is, they aren't going through a list when it comes to many of the evil shit they do | Jan 28 05:04 |
| ender2070 | im sure its someones job to sit on youtube all day watching cat videos looking for terrorist "code messages" | Jan 28 05:04 |
| MinceR | it isn't even applicable to trying to weaken the security of stuff we use | Jan 28 05:04 |
| MinceR | (Dual_EC_DRBG, systemd) | Jan 28 05:04 |
| ender2070 | they dont have the computational power to watch 7 billion 24/7 | Jan 28 05:04 |
| MinceR | they do have the computational power to watch a lot of network connections and dump it all into storage | Jan 28 05:05 |
| MinceR | and they do have the leverage to coerce people into compromising security | Jan 28 05:05 |
| ender2070 | which 98% of is already on facebook | Jan 28 05:05 |
| MinceR | well yeah, don't use facebook | Jan 28 05:05 |
| ender2070 | well the people who post on facebook expect it to be public | Jan 28 05:05 |
| MinceR | or not | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | depends on the people | Jan 28 05:06 |
| ender2070 | or they are naive on their privacy settings | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | afaik there's still alleged functionality to post things that are only visible to a smaller group of people | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | and most users aren't IT professionals | Jan 28 05:06 |
| ender2070 | thats why i said 98% | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | afaik the privacy settings have a way of changing from time to time | Jan 28 05:06 |
| MinceR | (at least people have complained about it) | Jan 28 05:06 |
| ender2070 | 1% is IT pros, 1% is the paranoid | Jan 28 05:07 |
| ender2070 | you know in Canada, its 100% for me personally to record everything im involved with and i dont need permission? | Jan 28 05:08 |
| MinceR | and of course, things like 'the user asked us to keep this private' isn't going to stop an organization which has much of its legal environment tailored to its needs | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | 100% legal for me* | Jan 28 05:08 |
| MinceR | (secret laws, secret interpretations, secret courts) | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | depends on the country | Jan 28 05:08 |
| MinceR | probably doesn't vary that much within the Five Eyes | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | maybe im lucky im in Canada | Jan 28 05:08 |
| ender2070 | even the right wingers in Canada respect privacy laws | Jan 28 05:09 |
| MinceR | they pretty much spy on each others' citizens to get around regulations saying they're not allowed to spy on their own citizens | Jan 28 05:09 |
| ender2070 | you would accuse our right wingers of being socialists | Jan 28 05:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, they pay lip service to it | Jan 28 05:09 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't, i'm not usian | Jan 28 05:09 |
| ender2070 | well thats true too | Jan 28 05:09 |
| ender2070 | Canada can't spy on its own people but USA, UK, Australia can | Jan 28 05:10 |
| ender2070 | assuming nobody catches them | Jan 28 05:10 |
| ender2070 | Canada is unique in that it actually follows its own laws | Jan 28 05:11 |
| ender2070 | it sets up government agencies that have the power to actually do stuff to other government agencies that mess up | Jan 28 05:11 |
| MinceR | oh, also, while we're on the topic of state institutions using trickery to pretend they're obeying the law when they aren't -- consider also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction | Jan 28 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Parallel construction - Wikipedia | Jan 28 05:11 | |
| MinceR | did Canada follow its own laws when Harper got some police officers get out of doing illegal things unscathed? | Jan 28 05:12 |
| ender2070 | Canada isnt perfect but lobbyists are heavily restricted from giving money to politicians | Jan 28 05:12 |
| MinceR | did Canada follow its own laws when Harper muzzled scientists on government money? | Jan 28 05:12 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jan 28 05:13 |
| MinceR | including whatever is Canada's equivalent of the Constitution? | Jan 28 05:13 |
| ender2070 | no law required government to fund scientists who purposely gave misleading info to journalists to drum up panick for grant money | Jan 28 05:13 |
| MinceR | 28 061239 < MinceR> did Canada follow its own laws when Harper got some police officers get out of doing illegal things unscathed? | Jan 28 05:13 |
| ender2070 | government grants are not an entitlement | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | oh, i forgot that he did this _retroactively_ | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | retroactive lawmaking is incompatible with the idea of rule of law | Jan 28 05:14 |
| ender2070 | we got rid of Harper | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, and has Useless Justin undone anything about what he did? | Jan 28 05:14 |
| ender2070 | we dont like politicians who do that | Jan 28 05:14 |
| ender2070 | Justin has enough problems to fix from Harper | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | he had an awful lot of terms in office for that | Jan 28 05:14 |
| MinceR | harper, i mean | Jan 28 05:15 |
| ender2070 | it was his last term when stuff came out | Jan 28 05:15 |
| ender2070 | and we voted him out | Jan 28 05:15 |
| MinceR | i seem to remember differently, but whatever | Jan 28 05:15 |
| ender2070 | i actually live in canada | Jan 28 05:15 |
| MinceR | well, you're not the only canadian who chats around here | Jan 28 05:16 |
| MinceR | (i'm not canadian, though) | Jan 28 05:16 |
| ender2070 | cubexyz, prurigro, xface | Jan 28 05:16 |
| ender2070 | prurigro and xface would be on my side and cubexyz would need his meds | Jan 28 05:16 |
| MinceR | that's an interesting way of categorizing people | Jan 28 05:17 |
| ender2070 | cubexyz drinks the everything is a conspiracy against open hardware and free software, and prurigro and xface are a more pragmatic "the right tool for the job" type | Jan 28 05:18 |
| ender2070 | free software koolaid* | Jan 28 05:18 |
| MinceR | ah, so preferring untrustworthy broken crap for a job is "pragmatic" | Jan 28 05:18 |
| MinceR | well, i guess some people enjoy putting the broken pieces together | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | at the end of the day: how much time did you spend and how much money did you make? | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | everything else is a bonus | Jan 28 05:19 |
| MinceR | at the end of the day, a lot of my computer usage is not about making money | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | thats good for you I guess | Jan 28 05:19 |
| MinceR | you're also forgetting the amount of damage to your nervous system | Jan 28 05:19 |
| ender2070 | i get more damage to my nervous system from transphobic rednecks | Jan 28 05:20 |
| MinceR | i.e. trying to get outlook and exchange do the right thing at work and then working around their inability to do so | Jan 28 05:20 |
| MinceR | s/i.e./e.g./ | Jan 28 05:20 |
| ender2070 | bloated peices of shit | Jan 28 05:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | problem is I can't find anything better | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | i can, and have | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | but my client couldn't be arsed to use anything standard | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | whats better than imap and exchange? | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | actual imap and some sane mail server daemons | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | i said | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | (not what m$ calls "imap" or whatever) | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | whats better than imap and exchange? | Jan 28 05:21 |
| ender2070 | imap and exchange suck | Jan 28 05:21 |
| MinceR | (also, you're lucky if they actually enable "imap" on exchange and tell you the parameters) | Jan 28 05:22 |
| ender2070 | exchange is less worse than imap cuz it supports contacts and calanders without caldav and webdav bullshit | Jan 28 05:22 |
| ender2070 | and random broken third party plugins | Jan 28 05:22 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much that helps when exchange decides to "deliver" your mail to your Trash folder | Jan 28 05:22 |
| MinceR | (did that to me for weeks) | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | (and at the end, exchange and outlook together decided to delete it all) | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | that sucks | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | but it all sucks | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | that's microsoft | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | ever use gmail and imap? | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | and it's to be expected when they realize that spending the money on corruption, lawyers and ads is more profitable than spending it on software engineers | Jan 28 05:23 |
| ender2070 | tagging causes imap folder duplicates up the ass | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | i have | Jan 28 05:23 |
| MinceR | i haven't used folders that much in gmail, though | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | i did end up with duplicate mail in other ways, though | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | they autotag shit too | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if they autotagged back then | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | when i moved off gmail, imap and their stupid tags made me want to punch stuff | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | still, i'll take duplicate mail over irrecoverably nuked mail any day | Jan 28 05:24 |
| MinceR | not to mention what the morons in redmond believe about mail threading | Jan 28 05:24 |
| ender2070 | i had to log into gmail, move everything into my inbox and switch to pop3 to reliably get everything off gmail | Jan 28 05:25 |
| ender2070 | then imported into claws-mail and ran the duplicate remover | Jan 28 05:25 |
| ender2070 | i've only had problems with outlook and exchange with users who think its gmail and have unlimited mailbox sizes lol | Jan 28 05:26 |
| ender2070 | "my computer runs really slow" "oh you have a 6GB OST cache of your exchange mailbox...." | Jan 28 05:26 |
| ender2070 | they really should replace pop3, imap and exchange with something standardized and better | Jan 28 05:27 |
| MinceR | well, yeah | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | though i don't get why a large local copy of a mailbox on disk should be that much of a catastrophe | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | unless they just fucked up the database format | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | like feed readers do | Jan 28 05:28 |
| ender2070 | At least Apple uses standardized mbox files for its mail app | Jan 28 05:28 |
| MinceR | i prefer Maildir | Jan 28 05:29 |
| ender2070 | each message is its own file? | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | yes | Jan 28 05:29 |
| ender2070 | thats useful too | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | with some metadata in the filename | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | and atomic operations ensured by the filesystem | Jan 28 05:29 |
| MinceR | but yeah, i'll take mbox over microsoft's nonstandard binary mess any day | Jan 28 05:29 |
| ender2070 | i only liked PST cuz its 1 file | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | mbox is pretty close | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | 1 file per folder | Jan 28 05:30 |
| ender2070 | if you've ever watched file transfers its always faster to transfer 1 large file vs 1 million small files | Jan 28 05:31 |
| ender2070 | i like apple's photo database idea but wish it was an open format | Jan 28 05:31 |
| ender2070 | copying photos always takes longer than it should | Jan 28 05:32 |
| MinceR | sure, but most of the usage is not transferring the mailbox | Jan 28 05:32 |
| ender2070 | yup | Jan 28 05:32 |
| MinceR | of course, if you wanted to optimize for this, i suppose you could use a filesystem image or something | Jan 28 05:32 |
| ender2070 | that would work | Jan 28 05:33 |
| MinceR | not sure if there's a fs image that can actually grow/shrink on demand though | Jan 28 05:33 |
| MinceR | which would be nice | Jan 28 05:33 |
| cubexyz | XFS has xfs_growfs | Jan 28 05:33 |
| ender2070 | even if you used a fixed size of 20GB and only had 1GB of mail or photos it might still copy faster | Jan 28 05:33 |
| *MinceR looks up xfs_growfs | Jan 28 05:34 | |
| MinceR | well, that's not on demand, but it can still help somewhat | Jan 28 05:34 |
| ender2070 | its ridiculous that in 2017 it still increases time when you have to copy a large number of files | Jan 28 05:34 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem like an easy problem | Jan 28 05:35 |
| cubexyz | SGI's thing I think it was | Jan 28 05:35 |
| MinceR | basically your files can have their blocks interspersed with each other and with normal file access this is ok, but when you have to copy them all you have to seek a lot | Jan 28 05:35 |
| ender2070 | I can see SGI needing that | Jan 28 05:35 |
| MinceR | unless you can somehow collect the data and plan the operation | Jan 28 05:36 |
| ender2070 | their business is animation and computer rendering | Jan 28 05:36 |
| MinceR | plus if you have small files, you're going to read a lot of sectors where you'll discard much of the sector | Jan 28 05:36 |
| ender2070 | when you got a compute rendering for weeks you might want it to save often in multiple files | Jan 28 05:36 |
| cubexyz | you could divide your data by year | Jan 28 05:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 28 05:36 |
| cubexyz | rather than just one large file with everything | Jan 28 05:36 |
| ender2070 | yeah thats what I did with my mbox data | Jan 28 05:37 |
| ender2070 | i moved all sent/inbox and folders for each year into a single folder | Jan 28 05:37 |
| ender2070 | really easy to search | Jan 28 05:37 |
| MinceR | is it easy to see which you've received and which you've sent? | Jan 28 05:38 |
| ender2070 | client sorting handles that | Jan 28 05:38 |
| MinceR | (also, does it screw with the email client ui?) | Jan 28 05:38 |
| ender2070 | i used the email client to consolidate it all into a single folder | Jan 28 05:38 |
| ender2070 | create new folder, lets say 2015 | Jan 28 05:39 |
| ender2070 | sort by year, drag all of 2015 into "2015" folder | Jan 28 05:39 |
| ender2070 | mbox is a database but its human readable and uses special codes for computers to differentiate each message | Jan 28 05:40 |
| cubexyz | on linux the mail is /var/mail/user | Jan 28 05:41 |
| cubexyz | so just backup /var/mail and sort it out later | Jan 28 05:41 |
| ender2070 | i currently use mail.app on OSX (till they drop mbox if ever) | Jan 28 05:42 |
| cubexyz | as long as you don't have gigs of emails | Jan 28 05:42 |
| ender2070 | exporting data gives me a plaintext mbox file | Jan 28 05:42 |
| ender2070 | i do have gigs but i sort by year so yeah :) | Jan 28 05:42 |
| ender2070 | there is a gpg plugin that works quite well too on mail.app | Jan 28 05:43 |
| ender2070 | unlike outlook and microsoft shit that has nothing | Jan 28 05:43 |
| MinceR | has any of you tried any secure-by-default email replacement yet? | Jan 28 05:44 |
| MinceR | (like Cables) | Jan 28 05:44 |
| ender2070 | what does that even mean | Jan 28 05:45 |
| MinceR | encrypted by default, thus resistant to social engineering downgrade attacks | Jan 28 05:45 |
| ender2070 | i dont think there is secure email unless you use gpg and that works on any provider | Jan 28 05:45 |
| MinceR | (that is, attacker keeps screwing up your encrypted data until a user gives up and sends in cleartext instead) | Jan 28 05:45 |
| cubexyz | I don't use email for any important information | Jan 28 05:45 |
| ender2070 | email is fine with gpg | Jan 28 05:46 |
| cubexyz | the gov stuff is all web based and locked down | Jan 28 05:46 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jan 28 05:46 |
| ender2070 | i love gpg its awesome | Jan 28 05:47 |
| ender2070 | best software ever made | Jan 28 05:47 |
| ender2070 | ive used it since it was proprietary under DOS | Jan 28 05:47 |
| ender2070 | i had the guerilla version | Jan 28 05:48 |
| ender2070 | so does everyone remember me from like 5 years ago? | Jan 28 05:49 |
| ender2070 | oh shit, 7 years ago | Jan 28 05:49 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Jan 28 05:49 |
| ender2070 | remember lefty? | Jan 28 05:49 |
| MinceR | vaguely | Jan 28 05:50 |
| ender2070 | ok | Jan 28 05:50 |
| ender2070 | i was on the first episode of techbytes | Jan 28 05:50 |
| ender2070 | and gave roy the idea and motivation | Jan 28 05:50 |
| cubexyz | they tried to encrypt DVDs, and ebooks and bluray and look how well that worked out | Jan 28 05:51 |
| ender2070 | maybe not the idea but i pushed the idea till he did it | Jan 28 05:51 |
| ender2070 | cubexyz: "they"? | Jan 28 05:51 |
| ender2070 | whoa, did DaemonFC finally leave or is he just banned? | Jan 28 05:53 |
| MinceR | he keeps coming and going | Jan 28 05:53 |
| ender2070 | its been so long and my memory is so flawless it feels like it was a few months ago | Jan 28 05:54 |
| ender2070 | http://techrights.org/2010/11/01/techbytes-episode-1/ | Jan 28 05:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | TechBytes Episode 1: Apple, Microsoft, Bundling, and Fedora 14 (With Special Guest Brandon Lozza) | Techrights | Jan 28 05:55 | |
| ender2070 | I was the Fedora ambassador | Jan 28 05:55 |
| ender2070 | when i was a guy | Jan 28 05:55 |
| ender2070 | omg lol i feel so old :( | Jan 28 05:55 |
| cubexyz | gmail uses TLS automatically anyways | Jan 28 05:57 |
| MinceR | TLS is not end-to-end though | Jan 28 05:57 |
| cubexyz | my rule is never use email with sensitive stuff ever | Jan 28 05:57 |
| ender2070 | keyword: gmail | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | what does it matter if you use TLS or plaintext when they have a copy? | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | if you use GPG, you can use email, pastebin, a post card, letter mail, etc | Jan 28 05:58 |
| ender2070 | once when I had to get a file to someone with privacy I had a script that would GPG in parts to pastebin | Jan 28 06:00 |
| ender2070 | and another script that would recover that | Jan 28 06:00 |
| ender2070 | as far as github knew it was just plaintext source code ;) | Jan 28 06:01 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: https://openpgpjs.org/ items like this do bring questions. Why is not producing GPG standard feature of browser and email clients. | Jan 28 06:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openpgpjs.org | OpenPGP.js | OpenPGP JavaScript Implementation | Jan 28 06:02 | |
| ender2070 | cuz nobody trusts websites with their gpg private key | Jan 28 06:02 |
| ender2070 | pretty much every email client other than outlook supports GPG | Jan 28 06:03 |
| ender2070 | even apple mail.app | Jan 28 06:03 |
| ender2070 | gpgtools.org - nothing like this exists for microsoft products | Jan 28 06:04 |
| ender2070 | great work for an OS with nowhere close to the same market share | Jan 28 06:04 |
| oiaohm | Note I said browser/email clients. There is no private key store in browsers at this stage. Even the email client that support GPG most don't support using keys protected in side like USB keys as we can with Linux to ssh into servers. | Jan 28 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes USB devices that decode the GPG internally so the private key is never on the machine in a copiable location. | Jan 28 06:05 |
| ender2070 | thats extreme | Jan 28 06:06 |
| ender2070 | it'll end up in the memory somewhere | Jan 28 06:06 |
| oiaohm | In the USB key with no network connection. | Jan 28 06:06 |
| oiaohm | or read out ablity. | Jan 28 06:06 |
| ender2070 | if you're really paranoid you would do all your GPG from a machine without internet, sneakernet the encrypted output | Jan 28 06:07 |
| ender2070 | for most people the entire effort is a waste unless you need to bypass actual filters | Jan 28 06:09 |
| ender2070 | in the 90s when most people didnt have internet access, perhaps | Jan 28 06:09 |
| ender2070 | now you're a grain of sand in a planet of sand | Jan 28 06:10 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: there are some really sane reasons to have ssh keys stuck instead USB keys. Main one is that a developer cannot by mistake upload them onto github or equal. | Jan 28 06:11 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: same also applies to server TLS keys. | Jan 28 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Locking encryption keys inside restricted devices is also required to pass for credit card processing with different groups. | Jan 28 06:12 |
| ender2070 | yeah makes sense | Jan 28 06:13 |
| ender2070 | GPG != ssh keys tho | Jan 28 06:13 |
| ender2070 | GPG has been very nice for package signing | Jan 28 06:14 |
| ender2070 | cuz if the key is compromised, revoke it from the distro and those packages are no longer trusted | Jan 28 06:14 |
| oiaohm | revoke only works if 1 you know it compromised 2 you can get the revoking message out. So prevention in this case is better than cure. So GPG and processing engine embedded in something with restricted in out kinda makes attack a lot harder. | Jan 28 06:18 |
| oiaohm | To make a device that can process GPG internally these days is less than 20 dollars. | Jan 28 06:18 |
| ender2070 | yeah thats true | Jan 28 06:19 |
| ender2070 | its good enough however for 100% of distros that do signing | Jan 28 06:19 |
| oiaohm | Distribution could upgrade their policies to say sign by device. Prefered the device been auditable FOSS system. | Jan 28 06:20 |
| ender2070 | the only difference i've seen is that some of the arch devs (like prurigro) have been required to use non-default GPG settings with a higher number of bits in the encryption | Jan 28 06:20 |
| oiaohm | The objective of a device is to make key theift a lot harder. | Jan 28 06:21 |
| ender2070 | i think prurigro has a 4096 bit GPG key | Jan 28 06:21 |
| oiaohm | and when you are not signing things be sure the key is removed from the machine. | Jan 28 06:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways we are super sloppy with security. | Jan 28 06:22 |
| ender2070 | GPG is also a trust system | Jan 28 06:22 |
| ender2070 | yeah security is shit on everything | Jan 28 06:22 |
| oiaohm | No everything. | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | often ease of use is traded for security | Jan 28 06:23 |
| oiaohm | there are a few expections. | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | everything can be hacked | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | social engineering counts as hacking | Jan 28 06:23 |
| oiaohm | Define hacked. | Jan 28 06:23 |
| ender2070 | gaining unauthorized access | Jan 28 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Like even social engineering cannot extract a gpg/pgp key out a isolated device. | Jan 28 06:24 |
| ender2070 | it can | Jan 28 06:24 |
| oiaohm | No it cannot. | Jan 28 06:24 |
| ender2070 | you trick someone into giving you their keys | Jan 28 06:24 |
| ender2070 | read Ghost in the Wires by Kevin Mitnick | Jan 28 06:25 |
| oiaohm | the public key is generated inside the device then only the private key is ever released from the device. | Jan 28 06:25 |
| ender2070 | 90%+ of his "hacks" were social engineering | Jan 28 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Attempt to open device and the private key goes by by. | Jan 28 06:25 |
| ender2070 | GPG doesnt work like that | Jan 28 06:26 |
| oiaohm | GPG devices do. | Jan 28 06:26 |
| ender2070 | if you ignore keyservers you have to manually authenticate | Jan 28 06:26 |
| oiaohm | keyservers never need to see the private key in the open. | Jan 28 06:26 |
| ender2070 | how do you know the guy at the linux con isn't NSA? | Jan 28 06:26 |
| ender2070 | you give out your public key | Jan 28 06:27 |
| ender2070 | you get 100% encrypted messages between you and the NSA spy | Jan 28 06:27 |
| oiaohm | I wrote that one line backwards should have been private key generated and only private keys released from device. | Jan 28 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Linux con you know NSA guys are there because they do have NSA on their shirts a lot of the time. | Jan 28 06:28 |
| ender2070 | 30 years from now they can crack GPG encoded in 2017 using quantum computers and shors algorithm | Jan 28 06:28 |
| cubexyz | really... NSA guys advertise the fact they work for the NSA? :) | Jan 28 06:29 |
| ender2070 | they do | Jan 28 06:29 |
| cubexyz | seems like it would be against the rules or something | Jan 28 06:29 |
| ender2070 | most of the hackers they try to hire aren't eligibile cuz of marijuana use | Jan 28 06:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: NSA has different staff some are public researches who have no trouble even been a presentor at a conference. | Jan 28 06:30 |
| ender2070 | once its legal in canada (thanks Trudeau), maybe Canadian special branches will allow pot smokers | Jan 28 06:31 |
| oiaohm | https://www.wired.com/2015/09/tricky-encryption-stump-quantum-computers/ << mind you quantum computers are not the be all and end all. Of course as tech advances upgrading encryption tech is always required. | Jan 28 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Tricky Encryption That Could Stump Quantum Computers | WIRED | Jan 28 06:31 | |
| ender2070 | from what i've found out from talking to people in the military, the candian military only bans drugs that are illegal according to the canadian criminal code | Jan 28 06:32 |
| ender2070 | quantum computers are nowhere near where they could be | Jan 28 06:32 |
| ender2070 | quantum right now is just a "chinese" shortcut | Jan 28 06:32 |
| ender2070 | "its mostly quantum but it isnt" | Jan 28 06:33 |
| ender2070 | look up D-Wave, canada | Jan 28 06:36 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: the thing here is lattice encryption is older than RSA stuff we use now. The base to GPG is lattice with prime numbers used to keep key exchange small so becoming RSA. So a stunt to make GPG more compact to transport makes it quatum attackable. | Jan 28 06:36 |
| ender2070 | afaik, you need quantum encryption to protect yourself against shors | Jan 28 06:37 |
| ender2070 | ie, you cant use classical encryption | Jan 28 06:38 |
| oiaohm | lattice encryption by design is not weak to shors | Jan 28 06:38 |
| oiaohm | Its only if you add something on top of it wrong is it weak to it. | Jan 28 06:38 |
| oiaohm | So a really old classical encryption screwed up quantum. | Jan 28 06:38 |
| cubexyz | there are no quantum computers | Jan 28 06:39 |
| oiaohm | lattice keys are not small either small lattice key is 2 megabyte. | Jan 28 06:39 |
| ender2070 | i think everything that is *really* quantum would cut through everything non-quantum like butter | Jan 28 06:39 |
| cubexyz | there's experiments only, nothing useable | Jan 28 06:39 |
| ender2070 | a true quantum computer would be timeless | Jan 28 06:39 |
| oiaohm | The problem is lattice pure require a massive quantum computer to attempt it and then nothing about lattice tells you if you have attempted to decode with a invalid key. | Jan 28 06:40 |
| ender2070 | it would exit "our reality" until computation was done, so to us, it would be instant | Jan 28 06:40 |
| oiaohm | quantum computer attacking an encryption that does not say hey that wrong is a has a very hard headache ahead of it. | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | context can always help you in those situations though | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | you'll obviously be decrypting something human readable | Jan 28 06:41 |
| ender2070 | so many shortcuts :) | Jan 28 06:42 |
| oiaohm | Problem is for short messages lattice every value is a possible decode that is valid. | Jan 28 06:42 |
| oiaohm | So attempting to filter to what would be human readable gets you absolutely no where. | Jan 28 06:43 |
| ender2070 | lattice sounds like something quantum would use to make its own encryption | Jan 28 06:43 |
| oiaohm | lattice was designed to resist brute forcing. | Jan 28 06:43 |
| oiaohm | lattice predates GPG. | Jan 28 06:44 |
| ender2070 | resist or eliminate | Jan 28 06:44 |
| ender2070 | as far as the theory goes, a true quantum computer could computer for a million years and take zero of our time | Jan 28 06:44 |
| oiaohm | And massive computer power does not help you if the encryption has no clues to what is valid. | Jan 28 06:45 |
| ender2070 | if brute force is mathematically possible, quantum would kill it | Jan 28 06:45 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Jan 28 06:45 |
| oiaohm | any encryption beatable by brute force quantum computer make break very quickly. | Jan 28 06:46 |
| oiaohm | but not all encryptions have that weakness. | Jan 28 06:46 |
| ender2070 | i can only think of one time pads as being secure | Jan 28 06:46 |
| ender2070 | one attempt, gone | Jan 28 06:46 |
| oiaohm | lattice you trade public keys with each other that are huge with equally huge private keys. That are fairly close to one time pads when you allow for message offsetting and other protections it has. | Jan 28 06:47 |
| ender2070 | and to be honest, if someone wanted to spy on you theres probably a million other ways | Jan 28 06:48 |
| ender2070 | why crack your lattice keys when someone spying on you can sit in a van and monitor keystrokes by sound and/or radiation and other factors? | Jan 28 06:48 |
| ender2070 | maybe you have the most secure encryption in the world but you have a personal assistant that is easily socially engineered | Jan 28 06:49 |
| oiaohm | You are starting to see why the most attacks have been against staff. | Jan 28 06:50 |
| ender2070 | I already knew social engineering is the best way to hack | Jan 28 06:50 |
| oiaohm | The reality is no matter what there will always be some form of encryption that with the tools of the current day cannot be broken. | Jan 28 06:50 |
| ender2070 | Kevin Mitnick avoided the FBI for years cuz of social engineering | Jan 28 06:50 |
| ender2070 | it took a geek on his level to help the FBI | Jan 28 06:51 |
| ender2070 | if anyone wants to talk about abuse of rights, just research the free kevin movement | Jan 28 06:51 |
| oiaohm | social engineering is not 100 percent as kevin mitnick found out. | Jan 28 06:52 |
| ender2070 | he got caught cuz a civilian IT expert (who got hacked) wanted revenge | Jan 28 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Julian Assange before wikileaks was hacking into USA stuff around the same time as kevin mitnick. | Jan 28 06:53 |
| ender2070 | when is the FBI allowed to hire an IT consultant who then breaks the law (using a cell scope) to catch a criminal and get away with it? | Jan 28 06:53 |
| ender2070 | they had different goals | Jan 28 06:54 |
| ender2070 | kevin mitnick was after trophis and assange was after the collapse of the USA | Jan 28 06:54 |
| ender2070 | but i dunno on assange tbh | Jan 28 06:54 |
| ender2070 | he helped trump which is totally not left wing of him | Jan 28 06:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange << 1987-1991 Please note the Australian government took him on as a technical adviser in 1993. | Jan 28 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Julian Assange - Wikipedia | Jan 28 06:55 | |
| ender2070 | I like trump better than clinton myself, but thats not saying much | Jan 28 06:55 |
| ender2070 | thats like saying you like green shit better than diahrea | Jan 28 06:56 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: remember 1987-1991 crimes Julian Assange did only could get forced to pay the cost of the power bill. | Jan 28 06:56 |
| ender2070 | i am interested to know if people here turned against assange cuz of trump | Jan 28 06:57 |
| ender2070 | assange helping trump actually gave me respect for assange | Jan 28 06:57 |
| ender2070 | before that i thought assange would only report on right wingers | Jan 28 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Assange is a pure believer in information should be free and that is from 1987 | Jan 28 06:58 |
| ender2070 | thats what I thought | Jan 28 06:58 |
| oiaohm | Most people are not aware of Assanges criminal history. | Jan 28 06:58 |
| oiaohm | even that it on the wikipedia | Jan 28 06:58 |
| ender2070 | i dont delve too much into peoples history | Jan 28 06:59 |
| ender2070 | people change | Jan 28 06:59 |
| ender2070 | i usually judge people by how they act currently | Jan 28 06:59 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_%28file_system%29 this is 1997. The thing with Assange he has repeated track history of the same thing. | Jan 28 07:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rubberhose (file system) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qegna ] | Jan 28 07:00 | |
| ender2070 | until the trump stuff it seemed assange was reporting things only the left wing would want out there | Jan 28 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Really a lot of that belief was based on not looking at what wikileaks had been releasing. | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | well | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | look at what governments get leaked | Jan 28 07:01 |
| oiaohm | USA media did want to put Assange on one side. | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | they have zero china and russian leaks | Jan 28 07:01 |
| ender2070 | you would think there would be at least one person in china and russia that is disgruntled enough | Jan 28 07:02 |
| ender2070 | the cables leaks were petty much every country but china and russia | Jan 28 07:02 |
| ender2070 | Canada was pretty mad about it but they never told people it was a crime to read the dox | Jan 28 07:03 |
| ender2070 | Canada is like a cool sidechick that just lets you do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt them | Jan 28 07:05 |
| oiaohm | China has a government has their own department for wissle blowers. anti corruption is taken very serous-ally in china anyone wanting to release proper evidence on those crimes get paid by the government for doing so if they use the government system. | Jan 28 07:05 |
| oiaohm | So china not having many leaks is understandable. | Jan 28 07:05 |
| oiaohm | I will give you russia is a strangeness. | Jan 28 07:06 |
| ender2070 | yeah but at the same time, you would think there would be at least one in china considering how many bypass the great firewall | Jan 28 07:07 |
| ender2070 | at least one person, in billions | Jan 28 07:07 |
| ender2070 | China as a government isn't as friendly as the mainstream media make you think | Jan 28 07:08 |
| oiaohm | I did not say they were friendly. | Jan 28 07:08 |
| oiaohm | Now not using the proper channels in china expect torture. | Jan 28 07:08 |
| oiaohm | So they will pay you on one hand or torture you on the other. | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | there are also entitled white people who move to china for the "benefits of communism" | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | lol torture is good motivation not to leak | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | under Obama, not even terrorists would get waterboarded | Jan 28 07:09 |
| ender2070 | the chinese would probably love to be waterboarded vs their normal government treatment | Jan 28 07:10 |
| oiaohm | by china standard waterboarding is them only minorlly annoyed with you. | Jan 28 07:12 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jan 28 07:12 |
| ender2070 | "waterboarding? hahahahaha you call that torture? i used to be waterboarded while being breastfed" | Jan 28 07:12 |
| oiaohm | The thing is if you are release information that is for the long term public good china pays people for that. So a person reporting about how they were tortured in china and they really were by china standard they have done nothing wrong. | Jan 28 07:13 |
| ender2070 | sounds eerily like canada | Jan 28 07:13 |
| ender2070 | except waterboarding lol | Jan 28 07:13 |
| oiaohm | So china is stupid in that way. They take you they torture you for speaking out but then you do a write up in the paper about it and they pay your for it. | Jan 28 07:14 |
| ender2070 | you're not allowed to question authority | Jan 28 07:14 |
| oiaohm | It is the china difference they are not saying you cannot talk about what was done to you. Its more like you can talk about it but is going to make absolutely no difference. | Jan 28 07:14 |
| ender2070 | but then authority because of the public relations, decides to turn you into a hero | Jan 28 07:15 |
| ender2070 | they play the blame game, throw the torturer under the bus | Jan 28 07:15 |
| oiaohm | No blame game what torturer did in china was legal so they promise to consider reform and do nothing. | Jan 28 07:16 |
| ender2070 | its all a show at the end of the day | Jan 28 07:16 |
| ender2070 | the money is probably cuz deep down they feel some sort of guilt | Jan 28 07:16 |
| ender2070 | but not too much guilt | Jan 28 07:17 |
| oiaohm | Exactly and the person complianing comes public entertainment. | Jan 28 07:17 |
| oiaohm | So not see any major released out of china its just how nasty china is. | Jan 28 07:17 |
| ender2070 | its a public display where the government basically shows the public symbolically that it can make mistakes but that it'll correct them | Jan 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | It the art of war if you have no secrets no one can black mail you. | Jan 28 07:18 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jan 28 07:18 |
| ender2070 | finally an art of war person! | Jan 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Russia I don't know why its odd on leaks. | Jan 28 07:18 |
| oiaohm | China makes absolute sense its there insane system. | Jan 28 07:19 |
| ender2070 | if you know the NSA reads every email on earth, you stop giving a shit and start being yourself | Jan 28 07:19 |
| ender2070 | at least I did | Jan 28 07:19 |
| oiaohm | Now you think if every country had a system like china. | Jan 28 07:19 |
| oiaohm | there would be nothing for wikileaks to uniquely report. | Jan 28 07:20 |
| ender2070 | do you think that would lead to better life or worse? | Jan 28 07:20 |
| oiaohm | China suggests would not change a thing. If our government systems horrible now they will still be horrible after free information leaking. | Jan 28 07:21 |
| ender2070 | I do have hope | Jan 28 07:22 |
| ender2070 | the leaks seemed to have helped keep Killary Clinton out of power | Jan 28 07:22 |
| ender2070 | despite the mainstream media | Jan 28 07:22 |
| oiaohm | But it would save some of the government around the world wasting money attempting to prevent people leaking information in the public good. | Jan 28 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Of course that information being out there does not mean they will improve their ways. | Jan 28 07:23 |
| ender2070 | if wikileaks didnt show how much of a scumbag hillary also was, she might have won | Jan 28 07:23 |
| oiaohm | The reality neither trump or hillary was ideal. | Jan 28 07:24 |
| ender2070 | trump didnt hide how much of a peice of shit he is | Jan 28 07:24 |
| ender2070 | in the words of George Carlin "at least he was honest about being completely full of shit" | Jan 28 07:25 |
| ender2070 | which ironically he attributed to Bill Clinton back in the 90s | Jan 28 07:25 |
| ender2070 | even wikileaks was like "we dont really have anything on trump that he hasnt already said out of his own mouth" | Jan 28 07:26 |
| ender2070 | lolol | Jan 28 07:26 |
| oiaohm | See trump to the china method. | Jan 28 07:28 |
| oiaohm | Lets just own up to everything then we cannot be black mailed. | Jan 28 07:28 |
| oiaohm | Even that we are a evil bit of works. | Jan 28 07:29 |
| oiaohm | The China method is scary effective as long as the other side attempts to hide things. If you are trying to rat groups you don't like out playing the china way make the groups hiding information from the government seam like the bad guy to a lot of people. | Jan 28 07:30 |
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| ender2070 | I like both Trump and Trudeau cus they're more like Rebels to me | Jan 28 07:44 |
| schestowitz | hi ender2070 | Jan 28 08:00 |
| schestowitz | long time no see | Jan 28 08:00 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jan 28 08:01 |
| ender2070 | yeah eh | Jan 28 08:01 |
| ender2070 | its been 7 years, feels like forever | Jan 28 08:03 |
| ender2070 | or not | Jan 28 08:03 |
| ender2070 | feels like yesterday | Jan 28 08:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jan 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz | still in TO? | Jan 28 08:10 |
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| cubexyz | things were civil for _months_ until starstream/ender reappeared | Jan 28 13:12 |
| cubexyz | you know, there should be some indication in the BIOS itself that it has Intel ME | Jan 28 13:20 |
| cubexyz | oh well at least I made some progress this morning with the DVD research | Jan 28 13:22 |
| cubexyz | got a few more service manuals | Jan 28 13:22 |
| cubexyz | not the exact one I wanted but similar | Jan 28 13:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: early ME there does not have to be indication that ME exists other than the firmware containing intel universal microcode image. That might be there because the firmware uploads it. Latter ME you see firmware for the ME in the bios image. | Jan 28 14:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it does become a question do you care about first generation me chips that are rom coded and only do the basics. | Jan 28 14:08 |
| cubexyz | it would help if I knew what the 1st generation me chip was | Jan 28 14:09 |
| oiaohm | From a security point if view I don't care about 1st generation ME chips I care about 7 generation being where they added AMT to the mix being 2007 | Jan 28 14:13 |
| cubexyz | the documentation on this seems very spotty | Jan 28 14:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://people.kth.se/~maguire/DEGREE-PROJECT-REPORTS/100402-Vassilios_Ververis-with-cover.pdf the breach documentation is also very spotty but scares the living heck out of a person like me. | Jan 28 14:19 |
| oiaohm | This is a acer from 2010. Where the faults in ME were network accessable to run AMT mode on then also flaws in AMT are bad enough that you can bipass that authentication as well. And the vendor asking for a fee to fix. | Jan 28 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like owning a laptop that is wireless controllable by any hositle network you connect to that knows how to do it. | Jan 28 14:22 |
| oiaohm | So some generations of ME firmware versions should be tagged if you machine has this your machine is toast. | Jan 28 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Add in intel boot guard where you cannot delete segments out of the ME firmware image. So it go back to vendor and beg for a clean firmware image and hope no hostile upload into system the broken one again. | Jan 28 14:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_AMT_versions reading AMT versions give you clue of when things start turning to hell. | Jan 28 14:38 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: Intel D975XBX2 motherboard at the start of AMT the AMT is not doing anything that bad. That is a 2006 board. But things go down hill 2.1 AMT has wake up on lan and 2.6 has remote configuration and 6 and up has possiblity of full KVM. | Jan 28 14:45 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I missed version 4 and up has possible of nuked harddrive. | Jan 28 14:45 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: http://people.kth.se/~maguire/DEGREE-PROJECT-REPORTS/100402-Vassilios_Ververis-with-cover.pdf << remember how you made out that ME is not a big problem. This was 2010 where a person found they could remotely turn on kvm mode then access kvm mode. | Jan 28 14:46 |
| starstreak | security bug | Jan 28 14:47 |
| starstreak | i dont attribute incompitence to malice | Jan 28 14:47 |
| starstreak | where the fuck is my spellcheck | Jan 28 14:48 |
| oiaohm | A security bug that if you read more intel has not obeyed security best practise at the time when they write the AMT part of the ME back then. Add in on modern system where you have boot guard so cannot change what the ME loads it from some vendors . | Jan 28 14:49 |
| starstreak | Look up the word incompetence | Jan 28 14:50 |
| starstreak | ironic that I misspelled it | Jan 28 14:50 |
| oiaohm | boot guard where if you are on the recieving end of remote accessing parts of ME being coded wrong the only way to fix it is junk the motherboard and if it be a laptop that is lot of cases junk the complete machine. | Jan 28 14:51 |
| oiaohm | That is kinda malice not having a process to provide fixed firmware. | Jan 28 14:52 |
| starstreak | Malice would mean they went out of their way and did it on purpose | Jan 28 14:53 |
| starstreak | I think this is the standard case of nobody coding for security | Jan 28 14:53 |
| oiaohm | The vendors go out of there way not to fix the machines with the problem. | Jan 28 14:53 |
| starstreak | and somewhere, a baby boomer is looking at a spreadsheet thinking that will save them money | Jan 28 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Avoiding providing firmware fixes are malice by vendor and intel did it with their own boards. | Jan 28 14:54 |
| starstreak | its incompetence again | Jan 28 14:54 |
| starstreak | 9 times out of 10, its incompetence and not some evil plan | Jan 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | This case is kinda different. | Jan 28 14:55 |
| starstreak | you'll start to see if it you stop attributing malice to everything | Jan 28 14:55 |
| starstreak | humans are just fucking stupid | Jan 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | I normally land on the side of incompetence | Jan 28 14:55 |
| razielle_tzu | given that intel are still not coding for security it may have started as incompetence buut can no longer be attributed to it | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | im sure there are engineers at intel who want to fix it and some baby boomer in management is looking at how much that will cost | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | and saying no | Jan 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | But when you have two boards from intel one with boot guard one without and one gets an update the other does not and they are the ones with the signing key. And they release a new update patching something else so they have the signing key. | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | baby boomers in charge is the big problem right now | Jan 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | So there is not incompetence in play there but lazy | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | they dont understand tech, just dollars | Jan 28 14:56 |
| starstreak | lazy is incompetence | Jan 28 14:57 |
| starstreak | i dont think intel wants to open its customers up to hacking but their devs dont know better | Jan 28 14:57 |
| starstreak | anyone who thinks backdoors are good usually don't know anything about security | Jan 28 14:57 |
| oiaohm | No lazy is not incompetence. Incompetence says you don't know what you are doing. Lazy includes malice where you decide not to do better. The answer is the board is out of support so not fixing the security fault. | Jan 28 14:58 |
| oiaohm | They will fix the power management fault that cause to intemittly stop running that could force them to give a refund in some countries. | Jan 28 14:58 |
| starstreak | oh you mean they aren't fixing it on old systems? | Jan 28 14:58 |
| starstreak | I would look at the warranty card and you'll notice you only get 3 years of support | Jan 28 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Most consumer law covers manufacture defects in electronics for 8 years. Power management playing up on the board intel has to fix for 8 years. But currently they argue remote management issues are not a manufacture defect. | Jan 28 15:00 |
| starstreak | where is that | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | lol | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | thats a ridiculous law | Jan 28 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Its called the functional operational life. | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | probably predates everything being made in china really shitty | Jan 28 15:01 |
| starstreak | before computers were all made in china i would agree it should last 8 years | Jan 28 15:02 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Jan 28 15:02 |
| starstreak | but the chinese cheap out on components to profit and then you end up with a piece of shit throwaway computer that lasts 3 years | Jan 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: before they were made in china the number was 14 years. | Jan 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: so china production has cut 6 years off. | Jan 28 15:02 |
| starstreak | well they should have put it down to 3 years | Jan 28 15:03 |
| starstreak | not everyone is me | Jan 28 15:03 |
| starstreak | i take care of my shit and i put the extra money into getting the best and it usually lasts a good decade | Jan 28 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Intel in spec sheet for chipset put number of hours of operation that comes out to 8 years as well. | Jan 28 15:03 |
| starstreak | if i dont upgrade lol | Jan 28 15:03 |
| oiaohm | So intel in promised hours of operation promised to 8 years. | Jan 28 15:04 |
| starstreak | sure but they only offer 3 years of warranty | Jan 28 15:04 |
| starstreak | so they're only promising it'll work for 3 years | Jan 28 15:04 |
| oiaohm | 3 years warranty against envornmental conditions. | Jan 28 15:04 |
| starstreak | yeah well thats how it is in Canada | Jan 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | So if the board cracks in 3 years they have to fix it. | Jan 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Other countries do go by the operational life promise as well. For manfacture defects. | Jan 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | So if you are going to promise x hours of operation the board must have been possible todo that in ideal conditions. | Jan 28 15:06 |
| starstreak | i dont remember intel ever doing that here | Jan 28 15:06 |
| starstreak | i've never seen an intel cpu advertised or even documented on the box how many hours to get out of it | Jan 28 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Intel never documents on the box the number of hours of operation. Because it would have too many users asking questions. Why do my hours of operations go down as cpu clock speed go up. | Jan 28 15:07 |
| starstreak | aha | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | overclockers | Jan 28 15:08 |
| oiaohm | This applies to intel standard clocked cpus. | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | assholes who buy cheap cpus thinking they can just set the clock higher and get better performance | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | that dont understand that intel doesnt speed bin anymore | Jan 28 15:08 |
| starstreak | while AMD was winning in the early x64 days intel was improving its fabs | Jan 28 15:09 |
| oiaohm | most of cheap intel cpu have longer hours of operation than the gamer intel cpus. | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | after core2duo intel's fabs have been so mature processors have very little defects | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | meanwhile AMD is disabling cores and selling 3 core cpus | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | disabling defective cores ALL the time | Jan 28 15:09 |
| starstreak | those x3's AMD sold a few years ago were defective quad cores lol | Jan 28 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. There are still a lot of core2duo chips when they are cut open by dia started life as a quad core chip | Jan 28 15:10 |
| starstreak | very little defects on intels side though | Jan 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Intel has got very good at hiding the defects. | Jan 28 15:11 |
| starstreak | once they were making the chip that became the Q6600, they were all the same and clocked at speeds for different markets | Jan 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | this is microcode for the cpu so cpu with particular defect bypass those areas. | Jan 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | making models of chips with less cores as they still to-do and cut the defects chips leaving the working bits. | Jan 28 15:12 |
| oiaohm | and of course the classic clock them lower until the defect is hidden. | Jan 28 15:12 |
| starstreak | i guess pushing the boundaries of technology and working around the bugs in an intelligent way isn't a bad thing | Jan 28 15:12 |
| starstreak | gamers are essentially testing technology for business LOL | Jan 28 15:13 |
| oiaohm | So its not that intel does not make as many defective chips as AMD. Just intel is better at hidding them. | Jan 28 15:13 |
| starstreak | i still think intel has less microcode to fix bugs than amd | Jan 28 15:13 |
| starstreak | amd's model has just been set higher clocks and invent cooling to support it | Jan 28 15:14 |
| oiaohm | I would say no. Its nothing uncommon for intel master microcode stack to contain up to 9 different firmwares for the same model number chip and choising what one to use based on what burnt out efuses in the chip. | Jan 28 15:14 |
| starstreak | intels model has been to shrink to reduce power consumption to compete with mobile arm devices | Jan 28 15:14 |
| oiaohm | not firmware microcode. | Jan 28 15:14 |
| starstreak | do you like AMD better than Intel for some reason? | Jan 28 15:15 |
| starstreak | every time i listen to amd i get bit in the ass with low performance bullshit | Jan 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | AMD does use microcode to hide defects but their design only allows 1 per chip type. Not the multi intel does. | Jan 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | This is not me like AMD as such. | Jan 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | I see intel microcode managment as impressive trick to get lots of usable chips out of unstable production. | Jan 28 15:16 |
| starstreak | i used to have an AMD A8 6600K, 3.9Ghz quad core | Jan 28 15:17 |
| starstreak | it couldnt even run fallout4 at 1080p with ultra graphics | Jan 28 15:17 |
| starstreak | same graphics card (1050ti) with an old i7 i got from my boss, works perfectly | Jan 28 15:17 |
| starstreak | a 3.9Ghz quad core should be able to handle any game because the 1050ti should be doing all the work | Jan 28 15:18 |
| oiaohm | That is not exactly a perfect valid test if you put fallout 4 on some models of intel xeon it has performance problems as well. | Jan 28 15:19 |
| starstreak | no its not a perfect valid test | Jan 28 15:19 |
| oiaohm | fallout 4 is tuned to particular instruction sets being present if they are missing it performs badly. | Jan 28 15:19 |
| starstreak | i agree | Jan 28 15:19 |
| starstreak | this intel i7 is also extreme edition with 12 logical processors | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | 6 core with hyperthreading | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | im comparing a $1200 processor against a $100 processor | Jan 28 15:20 |
| oiaohm | A xeon with 12 locical processors having performance problems. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| oiaohm | So that was a same to same in cores. | Jan 28 15:20 |
| starstreak | xeons aren't for games tho | Jan 28 15:21 |
| oiaohm | I would not say so. Xeons are recommend for particular games that are played in competition due to have ECC ram. | Jan 28 15:21 |
| oiaohm | So there are games that support broader instruction sets. | Jan 28 15:21 |
| starstreak | what games? | Jan 28 15:22 |
| starstreak | thats very paranoid lol, starcraft? | Jan 28 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Dota 2 and lot of the other esport games. | Jan 28 15:23 |
| starstreak | error correction reduces performance a bit, its usually needed on servers because errors mean data loss and that means money loss | Jan 28 15:23 |
| starstreak | league of legends i bet too | Jan 28 15:23 |
| oiaohm | People losing game for money due to not detect defective ram does not make them happy. | Jan 28 15:23 |
| oiaohm | i7 don't do ecc | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | hahahahahahahaha | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | i bet they are blaming their computers when they lose! | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | LOL | Jan 28 15:24 |
| starstreak | "i couldnt possibly lose, my fucking computer is broken thats it" | Jan 28 15:24 |
| oiaohm | This is why lot of competition gaming if your rig is not something support ecc they are not letting you play. | Jan 28 15:24 |
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| starstreak | i dont think thats necessary | Jan 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Yes a i3 on the right motherboard has ecc and is acceptable | Jan 28 15:25 |
| starstreak | a lot of weird rules are caused by people being paranoid over nothing | Jan 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | This can make the person with the i7 very upset. | Jan 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Bad ram making a bad network packet might not crash your machine out on it own. | Jan 28 15:26 |
| starstreak | if i went to those competitions i would demand their network equiment be held to the same standards | Jan 28 15:26 |
| oiaohm | What they do. | Jan 28 15:26 |
| starstreak | cuz it would be a shame if they had all these ECC requirements but then everyone is hooked up to a netgear wifi router | Jan 28 15:27 |
| oiaohm | No wifi other than for no players at most of these competition it wired links. | Jan 28 15:27 |
| starstreak | yeah but a netgear wifi router has wired links too and you can plug switches into it | Jan 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Nothing excess is allowed in the game network. | Jan 28 15:28 |
| starstreak | what routers and switches are they using | Jan 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | So a router with wifi possible would be excess. | Jan 28 15:28 |
| starstreak | cisco i hope | Jan 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: http://www.opencompute.org/wiki/Networking/SpecsAndDesigns Lot of competitions no. Cisco switches most don't have independant certification of internal security. The stuff from open compute and equal they are more likely to use. | Jan 28 15:31 |
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| starstreak | i would also hope they provide tested network cables that are certified not to fail | Jan 28 15:31 |
| oiaohm | Proper made network cables take a hell lot of abuse to break. | Jan 28 15:32 |
| oiaohm | They are more likely to have a issue from a machine with poor ram or a switch or router without independent certification of quality. | Jan 28 15:33 |
| oiaohm | Basically once you start playing for money things start getting serous. | Jan 28 15:34 |
| oiaohm | starstreak: https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11187796/port-security-issue-causes-limited-connectivity-pcs Some of the cisco system fancy networking features in switches can come a living nightmare for a game competition. | Jan 28 15:38 |
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| oiaohm | starstreak: the catch is a security feature switch like cisco likes making is not always a stable switch. Gaming competition want stable and secure. | Jan 28 15:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Dash To Panel Is A Cool Icon Taskbar For GNOME Shell | Jan 28 16:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | `Dash To Panel` Is A Cool Icon Taskbar For GNOME Shell ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Jan 28 16:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Someone should leak Trumo's tax returns already....' | Jan 28 16:49 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@sol @Snowden They have machines and PAs, so...' | Jan 28 18:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/7jW5cpyQVL | Jan 28 18:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jan 28 18:40 | |
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| starstreak | dash cams, officially awesome | Jan 28 18:51 |
| starstreak | this goruk is so cool it even has a parking security mode | Jan 28 18:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Amazing LG Watch Style picture leak reveals Android | Jan 28 19:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK’s GDS to renew focus on reusable software | Tux Machines | Jan 28 19:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: UK’s GDS to renew focus on reusable software https://t.co/o3aYDMgWPY https://t.co/l6jzcEOlUX | Jan 28 19:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://framasphere.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_c9086c8949858a89ac69.jpg | Jan 28 19:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I never understood these "after" shots/frames | Jan 28 19:30 |
| schestowitz | and what they meant in relation to the original/source | Jan 28 19:30 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jan 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | yolo | Jan 28 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Five awesome Android tips and tricks | Jan 28 19:48 | |
| starstreak | hey schestowitz | Jan 28 19:49 |
| starstreak | LONG time | Jan 28 19:49 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein @Reuters #trump doesn't seem to worry about...' | Jan 28 19:55 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/humpty-dumpty | Jan 28 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Humpty Dumpty [ http://ur1.ca/qekce ] | Jan 28 20:06 | |
| MinceR | 28 203838 < schestowitz> yolo | Jan 28 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | starstreak: yeah | Jan 28 20:54 |
| schestowitz | missed us? | Jan 28 20:55 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@GreenPartyUS @mic A timely reminder that so-called 'Democrats'...' | Jan 28 21:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I bought a baseball bat and some "law enforcement model" mace. | Jan 28 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | You do what you can. I understand that private citizens where you are can't possess mace? | Jan 28 21:26 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @bpolitics #google is meanwhile, based on reports,...' | Jan 28 21:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | BlackArch: New ISOs released! https://t.co/2onqwPR9sk | Jan 28 21:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BlackArch: New ISOs released! | Tux Machines | Jan 28 21:26 | |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't kill anyone. It just incapacitates them. Pain, eyes swell shut, and it has a UV dye in it so the police know that they found the guy that attacked you if they catch him later. | Jan 28 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | I might buy a stun gun and have them send it to mom's house. | Jan 28 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Those are illegal to have in Chicago, but oh well. | Jan 28 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather risk the small chance of a misdemeanor than to not have what I need. | Jan 28 21:28 |
| schestowitz | why a mace? | Jan 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz | can you carry it around any more legally than you do a knife (even kitchen knife)? | Jan 28 21:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825455782762315780 | Jan 28 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Make Fedora fonts better https://t.co/nJaajyqLAd | Jan 28 22:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Make Fedora fonts better | OCS-Mag | Jan 28 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Factorialpython/status/825464562279387138 | Jan 28 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Factorialpython: @schestowitz @Snowden @FBI @TheRegister great news then, tell the #USA I am their saviour, hung like a donkey, gonna give them ALL they want | Jan 28 22:05 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Mace is a brand of pepper spray. | Jan 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, this one has pepper spray and tear gas in it. | Jan 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | You just aim for the attacker's eyes and face and hold the safety and the trigger and they're in so much pain you can just run away. | Jan 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be staggering around for half an hour after that. | Jan 28 22:25 |
| starstreak | i guess thats better than shooting them | Jan 28 22:28 |
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