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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Typoman: Revised soon available on SteamOS + Linux | Jan 29 05:03 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: laptop most common failure point is the cable between the screen and mainbody | Jan 29 05:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KirkSiegler/status/825456400822202368 | Jan 29 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KirkSiegler: CNN headline right now is pretty extraordinary https://t.co/Vgn4JyVssC | Jan 29 05:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KirkSiegler: CNN headline right now is pretty extraordinary https://t.co/Vgn4JyVssC | Jan 29 05:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825648001704148992 | Jan 29 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz I left 6 years ago... wouldn't blame it on BHO.(although he was hideous imho). it is a systemic problem.. | Jan 29 05:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825652023353868288 | Jan 29 05:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz fyi not true.. it took me only 5 minutes to find an attack in Spain 11 Americans killed .. didn't research further yet.. busy | Jan 29 05:34 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Jan 29 09:01 |
| cubexyz | the 26 dimension thing I think is from string theory | Jan 29 09:02 |
| MinceR | i thought that was only 11 | Jan 29 09:02 |
| cubexyz | wonder how they came up with that | Jan 29 09:02 |
| cubexyz | well, read the comic :) | Jan 29 09:02 |
| cubexyz | I think it's 10, 11 or 26 | Jan 29 09:02 |
| cubexyz | http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/292919/why-are-there-specifically-10-11-or-26-dimensions-in-string-theory | Jan 29 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-physics.stackexchange.com | spacetime - Why are there specifically 10, 11, or 26 dimensions in string theory? - Physics Stack Exchange | Jan 29 09:03 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 29 09:03 |
| cubexyz | I think it's a bosonic string theory thing | Jan 29 09:04 |
| cubexyz | easy reading for the weekend ;) | Jan 29 09:04 |
| oiaohm | String theory is not a single theory that brings lots of problems. | Jan 29 09:07 |
| oiaohm | So someone could write a new string theory as long it has the maths could have a unlimtied number of dimensions | Jan 29 09:07 |
| cubexyz | ok... I know I've heard that 26 number before | Jan 29 09:08 |
| cubexyz | it was on Star Trek NG.... The Nth Degree | Jan 29 09:09 |
| XRevan86 | Why people give so much attention to that though? | Jan 29 09:10 |
| XRevan86 | What a dissapointment will it be if a new superior theory will arise and it'll state "there are 4 dimensions". | Jan 29 09:10 |
| cubexyz | well, I'm just a bit curious how they came up with it | Jan 29 09:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 29 09:12 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, I mean, in general :). | Jan 29 09:12 |
| cubexyz | that number 26 pops up in other areas | Jan 29 09:14 |
| XRevan86 | I'm on the boring side because I think we'd notice if there are more than 3 dimensions of space. | Jan 29 09:14 |
| XRevan86 | unless all other dimensions are completely and totally empty | Jan 29 09:15 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: In fact the problem is we have with gravity distortion on space time. | Jan 29 09:15 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so X Y and Z distances are not exactly constants. | Jan 29 09:16 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Notice in a sense "a 6 dimensional particle flies by and makes a big mess" | Jan 29 09:16 |
| cubexyz | there's lots of things beyond our perception | Jan 29 09:16 |
| MinceR | they're not empty, they're small | Jan 29 09:16 |
| MinceR | though i suspect even that would mean issues in thermodynamics | Jan 29 09:17 |
| MinceR | (i seem to remember something about degrees of freedom) | Jan 29 09:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If our universe is 3 dimensional, then all other dimensions of space will be infinitely bigger than the universe no matter how small they are %). | Jan 29 09:17 |
| cubexyz | like the visible spectrum of light is a pretty small range | Jan 29 09:17 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/02/gravitational-waves-einsteins-ripples-spacetime-spotted-first-time << basically we can detect ripples in space time. | Jan 29 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencemag.org | Gravitational waves, Einstein's ripples in spacetime, spotted for first time | Science | AAAS | Jan 29 09:17 | |
| oiaohm | If the 4 dimensiions of x y z and t was everything those ripples would not happen. | Jan 29 09:18 |
| oiaohm | So we know there is more than 4 but how many more than 4 is the problem. | Jan 29 09:18 |
| cubexyz | and of those 26 dimensions, 25 of them are spatial dimensions | Jan 29 09:19 |
| cubexyz | beats me how they came up with that | Jan 29 09:19 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Well, shoot :). | Jan 29 09:19 |
| cubexyz | oh good... there's Bosonic String Theory for Dummies | Jan 29 09:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/ | Jan 29 09:20 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/ | Jan 29 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bosonic String Theory: 25 Space Dimensions - dummies | Jan 29 09:21 | |
| cubexyz | why does it always do that on me | Jan 29 09:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: from the string theories 6 dimensions to who know how many. The lowest complexity string theory is only 6 dimensions | Jan 29 09:23 |
| oiaohm | At this stage will don't have a theory that explains all observational results. | Jan 29 09:24 |
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| XRevan86 | > "Obama is still a neoliberal politician" | Jan 29 09:47 |
| XRevan86 | darn, I forgot what "neoliberal" means again | Jan 29 09:47 |
| XRevan86 | liberal: human rights, libertarian: unregulated market economy | Jan 29 09:48 |
| XRevan86 | what's neoliberal? | Jan 29 09:48 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism | Jan 29 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Neoliberalism - Wikipedia | Jan 29 09:48 | |
| XRevan86 | Exactly the same thing as libertarianism then? | Jan 29 09:49 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jan 29 09:50 |
| cubexyz | I think libertarianism is a bit different | Jan 29 09:50 |
| cubexyz | economic and social liberalism | Jan 29 09:50 |
| XRevan86 | So, libertarianism is neoliberalism with a touch of anarcho-capitalism? | Jan 29 09:52 |
| cubexyz | libertarians would be against TARP and bailouts for example | Jan 29 09:52 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Wouldn't neoliberals? | Jan 29 09:53 |
| XRevan86 | those are regulations after all | Jan 29 09:53 |
| cubexyz | no | Jan 29 09:54 |
| cubexyz | "They also tend to believe that an appropriate role for government exists to correct market errors, and that government should be heavily involved in both regulating and partnering with certain businesses." | Jan 29 09:54 |
| cubexyz | as Obama probably saw TARP as a way to correct a 'market error' | Jan 29 09:55 |
| XRevan86 | > These include extensive economic liberalisation policies such as privatisation, fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society. | Jan 29 09:55 |
| XRevan86 | from Wikipedia | Jan 29 09:55 |
| XRevan86 | on neoliberalism | Jan 29 09:55 |
| cubexyz | you're getting into buzzword territory | Jan 29 09:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What a terminological mess. | Jan 29 09:57 |
| cubexyz | I mean, who actually calls themselves a neoliberal? | Jan 29 09:58 |
| XRevan86 | the neo- part seems redundant | Jan 29 09:58 |
| cubexyz | ok... here's a dictionary definition: | Jan 29 09:58 |
| cubexyz | "an outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions andan outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions and opposition to big business and military buildup. " opposition to big business and military buildup. | Jan 29 09:59 |
| cubexyz | ugh again | Jan 29 09:59 |
| cubexyz | "an outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions and opposition to big business and military buildup." | Jan 29 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | > opposition to big business and military buildup | Jan 29 09:59 |
| XRevan86 | That's pro-regulation then? | Jan 29 09:59 |
| cubexyz | yes I think so | Jan 29 10:00 |
| XRevan86 | which is the opposite of what Wikipedia states | Jan 29 10:00 |
| cubexyz | yes, one contradicts the other | Jan 29 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | So, liberals are in the same pit with the commies :). | Jan 29 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | "communism is close to anarchy" and "commies teh people who give all their crap to the govt" | Jan 29 10:03 |
| XRevan86 | opposites blended into one term | Jan 29 10:03 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why it's so common. | Jan 29 10:03 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, political terms that mean opposite things. | Jan 29 10:04 |
| XRevan86 | Annoying, that's for sure. | Jan 29 10:05 |
| cubexyz | political double talk | Jan 29 10:05 |
| cubexyz | it's hard to pin down | Jan 29 10:05 |
| cubexyz | no wonder there's so many arguments | Jan 29 10:05 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah. Even between people who basically agree with each other. | Jan 29 10:06 |
| XRevan86 | on the constructive part, but not on how they identify themselves :). | Jan 29 10:06 |
| cubexyz | a mathematician could argue with the dictionary definition of the word "set" | Jan 29 10:06 |
| XRevan86 | set foo=bar | Jan 29 10:07 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: A different appliance, people understand that. | Jan 29 10:08 |
| cubexyz | there's a concept I came across years ago | Jan 29 10:09 |
| cubexyz | it's called the "sociological sidestep" | Jan 29 10:09 |
| cubexyz | it happens when words change their meaning over time | Jan 29 10:10 |
| cubexyz | e.g. the term liberal could change over time and even mean different things in different countries | Jan 29 10:10 |
| XRevan86 | I guess everything starts meaning the stereotype of itself over time. | Jan 29 10:13 |
| cubexyz | also this: | Jan 29 10:18 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism | Jan 29 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Historical revisionism - Wikipedia | Jan 29 10:19 | |
| XRevan86 | Indeed. | Jan 29 10:19 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/YpHFYLg.jpg | Jan 29 10:20 |
| XRevan86 | What did "Founding Fathers" stand for? Liberalism? Giving profits to corporations, got it. | Jan 29 10:20 |
| MinceR | afaict most "liberals" and "libertarians" are not liberal nor libertarian at all | Jan 29 10:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A joke (the pic)? | Jan 29 10:21 |
| MinceR | well, such humans are a joke | Jan 29 10:21 |
| cubexyz | I'll settle for logically consistent :) | Jan 29 10:22 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know if that's dark humour or a tragedy. | Jan 29 10:22 |
| MinceR | and of course most "democrats" and "republicans" don't really support democracy or republics | Jan 29 10:23 |
| cubexyz | kind of like those Dihydrogen monoxide jokes :) | Jan 29 10:24 |
| cubexyz | can cause suffocation! | Jan 29 10:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The worst part is that representative democracy is what republics have. | Jan 29 10:25 |
| XRevan86 | terminologically speaking one can place an equal mark | Jan 29 10:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 29 10:26 |
| MinceR | "The Times of London is reporting that Theresa May's team says she held hands with Trump at Trump's request, because he is afraid of stairs." | Jan 29 10:26 |
| XRevan86 | Good for them. | Jan 29 10:27 |
| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4209 | Jan 29 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion” | Jan 29 10:28 | |
| cubexyz | I think the original idea behind republicanism was rejection of monarchy and aristrocracy | Jan 29 10:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: One more step from just representative democracy? | Jan 29 10:30 |
| cubexyz | that's what the "framers" wanted | Jan 29 10:34 |
| cubexyz | not a pure democracy, but a representative democracy, as you say | Jan 29 10:34 |
| MinceR | and they're getting neither | Jan 29 10:34 |
| cubexyz | direct democracy would be before the constitution was formed | Jan 29 10:35 |
| cubexyz | around 1787... this being the US one | Jan 29 10:36 |
| cubexyz | in Canada we have a parliamentary government, just another type of representive democracy | Jan 29 10:38 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: How fair Canada is to minor parties? | Jan 29 10:39 |
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| cubexyz | I don't think anyone has won any seats outside of Conservative, Liberal or NDP | Jan 29 10:42 |
| cubexyz | I think the Greens got one seat a few years ago | Jan 29 10:43 |
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| cubexyz | the low population territories like Nunavut and Northwest Territories have a consenous government which is a bit different from the provinces | Jan 29 10:47 |
| cubexyz | and there's also aboriginal self-government | Jan 29 10:47 |
| cubexyz | I don't think the consensus government has any political parties | Jan 29 10:48 |
| cubexyz | kind of like Fiji or the Isle of Man | Jan 29 10:49 |
| cubexyz | I don't really know how fair it is though :) | Jan 29 10:49 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 29 14:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yay codecs | Jan 29 14:51 |
| razielle_tzu | yay codecs? | Jan 29 14:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yep got my vidoe its a mp4 though | Jan 29 14:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so not cant just play that on ubuntu touch | Jan 29 14:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well sound I can | Jan 29 14:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but without picture | Jan 29 14:57 |
| razielle_tzu | ah | Jan 29 14:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, seems going to need an actsaul lap top to play it | Jan 29 14:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or maybe a android device ? | Jan 29 14:57 |
| razielle_tzu | android would play it, with mxplayer or the beta for vlc | Jan 29 14:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah seem kind of issues as desktop linux | Jan 29 14:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yay may just play on my ultra tablet later | Jan 29 14:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | remix os | Jan 29 14:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not sure where charger is for lap top right now so | Jan 29 14:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | however I'll have to give myself a short url it seems to then, since its got some crazy link for download | Jan 29 14:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, its my speech | Jan 29 14:58 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Jan 29 14:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I remember this kind of thing before | Jan 29 14:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with a previous one | Jan 29 14:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then being like ah Ill play on windows then | Jan 29 14:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that was with older net bok | Jan 29 14:59 |
| razielle_tzu | i've never had issues playing stuff | Jan 29 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Mp4 is a package format. Does not say the codec inside. Its way more than possible to end up with unsupported codec be it windows or linux. Now if you are dealing with something using odd ball codecs this is one thing. | Jan 29 15:03 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: There is a Linux trap. If you are using hardware accelerated play back and you run a update that update you video card driver you can get the black screen with audio. Issue is miss matched kernel driver and video accerlation library. | Jan 29 15:04 |
| razielle_tzu | i use vlc or sometimes mpc... never had issues playing anything | Jan 29 15:04 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: windows in that case forces reboot. | Jan 29 15:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, could be | Jan 29 15:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, think may of had that kind of thing on desktop ubuntu or whatever to | Jan 29 15:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I said it was the tablet now so ubuntu touch but it is base don ubuntu 15.04 with some other stuff put in | Jan 29 15:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah vlc is usaully ok, but can't just run that with Ubuntu touch | Jan 29 15:06 |
| oiaohm | You hear about people complain about windows 10 auto updates triggering windows to reboot and losing there work its items where Linux a few applications break but it told you you should restart it. | Jan 29 15:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there is a way if I Want to hack some stuf and set up my own liberitne container but nah | Jan 29 15:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | also they are moving on replaceing this with a snappy based one based on ubuntu 16.04 | Jan 29 15:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | tablet should get a update for that, but it seems my MX 4 phone may not, and the bq 4.5 which I don't really use anymore anyway wont | Jan 29 15:07 |
| razielle_tzu | ubuntu touch is not mature enough to do much imo | Jan 29 15:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well is and isn't | Jan 29 15:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but now its on a complete freeze except for bug fixses and seucrity updates | Jan 29 15:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whilst the nex major verison is being sorted out of it | Jan 29 15:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | means certain apps will have to be re done as snappy pakages as well, since this old click stuff is deprecated or will be | Jan 29 15:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, thats ashame though if the Meizu MX 4 can't just go forward with the times, since thats generally a quite nice phone hardwarewise | Jan 29 15:09 |
| oiaohm | The graphic driver update and video playblack black video playback on Linux is a generic problem. With VLC and most other Linux playblack programs you can force software rendering mode. | Jan 29 15:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok it can't do the screen to tv, hdmi stuff, but ah well. the didsplay adpater stuff | Jan 29 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Reason why I know this fault well is at times I have my desktop system running stuff that need to go for about 4 days. | Jan 29 15:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, right, but as mentioend above, can't just run vlc on ubuntu touch since.... | Jan 29 15:10 |
| oiaohm | So linux update in middle is grin and bare it. | Jan 29 15:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe this is the last time I am taking the Meizu MX 4 with me to Brussels, not sure yet | Jan 29 15:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I'll have reason enough, valid reasons enough, to buy a supported new UBuntu Phone in the next two years | Jan 29 15:11 |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Jan 29 15:11 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | adnd that's something else | Jan 29 15:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no new devices | Jan 29 15:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | until this snappy ubuntu stuff also known as ubuntu personal | Jan 29 15:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | is sorted out properly enough | Jan 29 15:12 |
| razielle_tzu | tbh right now i hold ubuntu phones in the same way i hold m$ phones.... pretty, decent hardware but kinda crappy still regardless | Jan 29 15:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well the os is limiting sure | Jan 29 15:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the os interface unity 8 is nice though :) | Jan 29 15:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, oh and those ubuntu phones, were really android phones | Jan 29 15:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so can actsaully put android on them to | Jan 29 15:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if wanting to | Jan 29 15:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | repacing it with android | Jan 29 15:13 |
| razielle_tzu | a nice ui doesn't save it when it limits what you can do when it's supposed to be a portable version of ubuntu | Jan 29 15:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or buy one with android first, and can probably put ubuntu touch on after replacing android | Jan 29 15:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, the app store the main app store is still lacking | Jan 29 15:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there's not that much in any catergy | Jan 29 15:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | games, graphics, etc etc | Jan 29 15:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but that should change when this new ubuntu snappy version should take over. old apps will die, or have to be re done so | Jan 29 15:14 |
| razielle_tzu | i've tested a few snapshots of touch and i find it sucked | Jan 29 15:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for example dekko the email client is dead in the old form | Jan 29 15:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but apparnatly moving on nicely in the newer snappy form | Jan 29 15:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | going by omgubuntu | Jan 29 15:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well if comparing it to recent android versions or ios, and wanting a load of apps as well, then yeah it isn't that good really | Jan 29 15:15 |
| razielle_tzu | nothing worked on the snapshot, i could connect to wifi but still couldn't do /anything/, no calls, camera didn't work, nothing could be updated | Jan 29 15:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Salifish os can do more, but my Jolla phone not coming to Brussels with me this year | Jan 29 15:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, uh on which device? | Jan 29 15:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | its mostly supported on the commrcail devices so | Jan 29 15:16 |
| oiaohm | You know when a platform is ready for use is wine vlc mainline talks about supporting it at least. | Jan 29 15:17 |
| razielle_tzu | let's see... i tried it on my tab2, s3 mini (custom snapshot port) and my note | Jan 29 15:17 |
| razielle_tzu | all of them were porterd by decent porters | Jan 29 15:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah bingo | Jan 29 15:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | devices that aren't supported | Jan 29 15:17 |
| razielle_tzu | and literally nothing but wifi worked | Jan 29 15:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and not even by the unoffical ubports project it seems | Jan 29 15:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and so that's to be expected not much working there | Jan 29 15:17 |
| razielle_tzu | a dev-locked snapshot worked but it was locked to the account of the dev that set it up | Jan 29 15:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah the unoffical ports | Jan 29 15:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | don't work so well | Jan 29 15:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in gneral it seems | Jan 29 15:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | except for those few where ubports say they mostly work | Jan 29 15:18 |
| razielle_tzu | the tab2 was on the list of supported devices but still had a lot of problems | Jan 29 15:19 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't know if it's still on the list | Jan 29 15:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if wanting ubuntu touch to work properly, need a commerical device really for now | Jan 29 15:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that I guess to may change with snappy and what not that is coming | Jan 29 15:19 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't like unity so why would i get a phone that uses it? | Jan 29 15:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I wasn't so keen on unity myself before | Jan 29 15:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but now I quite like it | Jan 29 15:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unity 7 and 8 | Jan 29 15:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I still like GNOME Shell, but find that more boring now as well so | Jan 29 15:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, can probably hack ubuntu touch to run other interfaces by the way | Jan 29 15:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I asked once | Jan 29 15:20 |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Jan 29 15:20 | |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: android-x86 that is a non google port so a unofficial shows something else. | Jan 29 15:20 |
| oiaohm | One of the biggest problems with unofficial ports is not clearly stating what percentage of the hardware they really support. | Jan 29 15:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah I guess | Jan 29 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Even official ports you can have that issue from time to time for different OSs. | Jan 29 15:22 |
| oiaohm | If you have like 70 hardware support but the remaining 30 percent is like the battery changing you are kinda stuffed. | Jan 29 15:22 |
| razielle_tzu | the images i tested were created by xda devs rather than people linked to ubuntu only, they're known for porting all kinds of stuff and getting it working but the devices i tested have had their images abandoned for three years now | Jan 29 15:22 |
| oiaohm | That is another issue with ports is people doing what are called one time ports with no interested in support them going forwards. We saw this first with netbook Linux unique OSs. | Jan 29 15:24 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jan 29 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah some wil lgive up | Jan 29 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | on porting | Jan 29 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's the thing with unoffical ports to | Jan 29 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no funding no porting | Jan 29 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | even ubuports is strugging for funding it seems | Jan 29 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in fact he would port full time as a job, if he had funding it seems | Jan 29 15:24 |
| oiaohm | No that logical fails when you look at android-x86 that has basically no funding. | Jan 29 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Difference is they did not attempt to do it solo. | Jan 29 15:25 |
| oiaohm | So a port without a group behind it will fail at some point. | Jan 29 15:25 |
| oiaohm | This is even true for Linux Distribution. | Jan 29 15:25 |
| oiaohm | So someone could write a set of rules to assess if you should go anywhere near a particular port or distribution. | Jan 29 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Thing to remember we have seen commercial distribution disappear for the same problem too small of group. | Jan 29 15:27 |
| razielle_tzu | or losing the people with key skills | Jan 29 15:27 |
| razielle_tzu | hmmm buy the codecs for the pi or not... | Jan 29 15:28 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: if you suffer from losing a key person and what you do is failing you development team was too small to start off with. | Jan 29 15:28 |
| razielle_tzu | i know but i've seen it happen | Jan 29 15:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so have I to som extent | Jan 29 15:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mageia uhmm | Jan 29 15:29 |
| razielle_tzu | they were looking for other people to add to the team but the main dev had to leave for various reasons before they could add anyone | Jan 29 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | main QA tester got a job | Jan 29 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's probably to do with the 6th release being delayed as well | Jan 29 15:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sommeone got quite ill as well who did things etc | Jan 29 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Its something that need to be addressed how projects in that case can be passed to some group who job is to find required projects a new team. | Jan 29 15:30 |
| razielle_tzu | no one wanted to pass it off to someone else but couldn't find anyone to pick it up so they just quit the project | Jan 29 15:30 |
| oiaohm | These problems happen with closed source software as well. So it a universal software development problem with no good problem. | Jan 29 15:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with no good solutions you mean ? | Jan 29 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and yeah h eh most people have no idea really | Jan 29 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | how compalcted software can be to make | Jan 29 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | main tain etc etc | Jan 29 15:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they just use what the companies sell them etc | Jan 29 15:31 |
| oiaohm | "No Good Problem" is having to tell person they have found a bit of software that does the task perfect but you cannot let them using because its not maintained so you have to tell them the program is no good. | Jan 29 15:32 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jan 29 15:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | Jan 29 15:36 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD slaps razielle_tzu around with big computers, running unity 8, untill they love it | Jan 29 15:37 | |
| *razielle_tzu stabs SebthreeBQM10HD in the kidneys | Jan 29 15:37 | |
| oiaohm | You hear the open source world talk about we have a problem open source lets you scratch itch. Then failure to consider teaming up with people with the same issue so 100 and 1 project doing the same thing but all them failing. | Jan 29 15:38 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD sends some snow to oiaohm in the post, non existen snow imaginaeyer snow, oh whoops it melted thats a wet parcel | Jan 29 15:38 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah thats ounds like linux :D | Jan 29 15:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, five file managers | Jan 29 15:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | five dm's | Jan 29 15:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc etc | Jan 29 15:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | three office suites or more | Jan 29 15:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Jan 29 15:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh and a few thounsad or so distros as well | Jan 29 15:39 |
| oiaohm | If you look in Windows freeware you see the same problem. | Jan 29 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Except worse you have no source to start a team around it. | Jan 29 15:40 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD was showing a guy some interface choice at the LUG yesterday, ok might have confussed him a little, but he will be going mint or ubuntu it seems anyway, a new perosn | Jan 29 15:40 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yes lots of freeware out there for windows | Jan 29 15:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | random programs for this and that | Jan 29 15:41 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers there are 10 file managers for windows. | Jan 29 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Comparison of file managers - Wikipedia | Jan 29 15:41 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh? | Jan 29 15:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I knew like noe got ported or something, but | Jan 29 15:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think like one altenraive interface to | Jan 29 15:41 |
| oiaohm | Linux/bsd/unix have 17 all the same. | Jan 29 15:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, can't just go on your link, but is konquerer via kde for windows in the list :D ? | Jan 29 15:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ubuntu touch is a bit sucky uhmm | Jan 29 15:43 |
| oiaohm | That is in cross platform | Jan 29 15:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah well more so if offline, see why I will take the phone with me, but not the tablet :D ? | Jan 29 15:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, next weekend will be awsom or should be | Jan 29 15:44 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: notice 22 closed source file managers for windows that you are meant to pay for. | Jan 29 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, massive open souorce linux event in anothre country again : | Jan 29 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | d | Jan 29 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that going to | Jan 29 15:44 |
| oiaohm | At this point Linux fragmentation starts not long that bad. | Jan 29 15:44 |
| oiaohm | Most people totally ingore how fragmented closed source on windows is. | Jan 29 15:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah I guess | Jan 29 15:45 |
| oiaohm | https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/2rn775/best_tiled_window_manager_for_windows/ << most people not aware that you can change windows manager under windows and there are massive numbers of them. | Jan 29 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Best Tiled Window Manager for Windows? : windows [ http://ur1.ca/qer4z ] | Jan 29 15:46 | |
| oiaohm | Again a lot of them you are expected to pay to find out if they suit your need or not. | Jan 29 15:46 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: when you seriously look inside windows closed source for how munch fragmented it is. It surprising how light on fragmenting the open source world is. But its still fragmented too much. | Jan 29 15:50 |
| razielle_tzu | isn't the biggest fragmentation caused by the package types? | Jan 29 15:52 |
| razielle_tzu | everything else boils down to choice of the user | Jan 29 15:53 |
| oiaohm | You would think it would be package type but the answer is no. People forget the program alien exist that can convert package type. | Jan 29 15:53 |
| oiaohm | The biggest issue is dependency hell if you convert the package type the converted package fails due to dependency differences. | Jan 29 15:54 |
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| razielle_tzu | oh yeah, i forgot about that | Jan 29 15:54 |
| razielle_tzu | i can see why ubuntu going with snap would help reduce that but then you have all different versions of the same thing taking up space within the snap package | Jan 29 15:55 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/we-are-special | Jan 29 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - We Are Special | Jan 29 16:04 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, they have a way to make things smaller snapwise | Jan 29 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, an gnome has flatpack | Jan 29 16:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | UBuntu GNOME 17.04 alpha 2 can support it appatny to | Jan 29 16:10 |
| oiaohm | Biggest flatpak issue is Nvidia opengl driver still don't have a proper access method for it. | Jan 29 16:17 |
| MinceR | how dependent is it on systemd? | Jan 29 16:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://flatpak.org/faq.html#Is_Flatpak_tied_to_systemd_ Not at all it falls back to other options of systemd is not available. It was at first but the long term plan with flatpak always stated working with other solutions and they delivered. | Jan 29 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flatpak.org | Flatpak Frequently Asked Questions | Jan 29 16:21 | |
| MinceR | sure, but how workable is it in that case? | Jan 29 16:23 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks So it seems like when people of...' | Jan 29 16:24 | |
| oiaohm | flatpak is 100 percent workable on non systemd systems. https://github.com/projectatomic/bubblewrap this is want current flatpak depend on for cgroup sandboxes. | Jan 29 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - projectatomic/bubblewrap: Unprivileged sandboxing tool [ http://ur1.ca/qerbs ] | Jan 29 16:25 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so flatpak does not care if system has systemd or not. | Jan 29 16:25 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jan 29 16:26 |
| oiaohm | flatpak guys are considering supporting freebsd Linux emulation. | Jan 29 16:27 |
| oiaohm | that could in time include windows Linux emulation for bash for Linux. | Jan 29 16:28 |
| oiaohm | Opps | Jan 29 16:28 |
| oiaohm | bash for windows | Jan 29 16:28 |
| MinceR | provided m$ develops that into something usable, as opposed to just a tech demo | Jan 29 16:28 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember solarias has Linux emulation so do most Unix envornments as well. Linux userspace API was choosen and the Unix uniform API because the Unix guys could not agree to use each others for syscalls. | Jan 29 16:32 |
| MinceR | solaris is dying anyway | Jan 29 16:34 |
| MinceR | it had the fatal misfortune of being owned by Sun :> | Jan 29 16:34 |
| schestowitz | or made by it? | Jan 29 16:35 |
| MinceR | that's irrelevant | Jan 29 16:35 |
| MinceR | if it wasn't owned by sun, LawSuit Larry wouldn't have gotten his filthy hands on it | Jan 29 16:35 |
| MinceR | and therefore he wouldn't be able to destroy it | Jan 29 16:35 |
| oiaohm | http://0pointer.net/blog/avoiding-cve-2016-8655-with-systemd.html and we are starting to see systemd do what it promised. Of providing security restrictions to services no matter the LSM in usage. | Jan 29 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.net | Avoiding CVE-2016-8655 with systemd | Jan 29 16:40 | |
| MinceR | yeah, they restrict security pretty well | Jan 29 16:41 |
| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/thoughts_on_the_systemd_root_exploit | Jan 29 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | Thoughts on the Systemd Root Exploit [ http://ur1.ca/qereb ] | Jan 29 16:41 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we are quite a few versions past that one. | Jan 29 16:43 |
| MinceR | i wonder how many "stable" deployments of cancerd still have that version | Jan 29 16:44 |
| oiaohm | Its also interesting that that fault is only in exactly 1 version. | Jan 29 16:44 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure that was the last security hole on it | Jan 29 16:44 |
| MinceR | it's perfect now! | Jan 29 16:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-1999-1329/ << the said reality is cve number rate sysvinit and systemd are running about the same. | Jan 29 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cvedetails.com | CVE-1999-1329 : Buffer overflow in SysVInit in Red Hat Linux 5.1 and earlier allows local users to gain privileges. [ http://ur1.ca/qerf5 ] | Jan 29 16:45 | |
| oiaohm | Really we have not had people making init systems for a long time with decent grade of quality control. | Jan 29 16:46 |
| oiaohm | I was hoping openrc would have been a init system designed with decent quality control. | Jan 29 16:47 |
| MinceR | still trying to paint that blob of bloat as "an init system"? | Jan 29 16:47 |
| MinceR | one way to control quality would be to stop adding more and more crap on top while the basics still aren't worked out | Jan 29 16:47 |
| MinceR | simplicity, privilege separation | Jan 29 16:47 |
| oiaohm | You are right about basics. But the problem is one of the basics that is missing. Name me a good multi application IPC under Linux that is part of the Linux kernel. | Jan 29 16:50 |
| oiaohm | Its something missing completely from the Posix standard as well. | Jan 29 16:51 |
| MinceR | there was one, but i forgot the name | Jan 29 16:52 |
| MinceR | it was even suggested instead of kdbus | Jan 29 16:52 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure why it has to be in the kernel | Jan 29 16:52 |
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| MinceR | afaik the second excuse for kdbus was that they screwed up their virtualization and needed kernel code to help with ipc | Jan 29 16:52 |
| oiaohm | It was suggested then everyone found heck it was lacking privilege seperation it presumed all applications would be interacting at the same privilage. | Jan 29 16:52 |
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| MinceR | (the first of course being "we can't be arsed to profile our code, but we're sure it's slow because of ring switching overhead") | Jan 29 16:53 |
| oiaohm | dbus comes into existance in the first place because a type of IPC is missing. | Jan 29 16:54 |
| MinceR | dbus is userspace though | Jan 29 16:54 |
| MinceR | (also, badly designed, but that could be fixed, probably) | Jan 29 16:54 |
| oiaohm | dbus is decendant from other userspace attempts at that from of IPC. | Jan 29 16:55 |
| MinceR | ah, it was TIPC | Jan 29 16:56 |
| MinceR | http://tipc.sourceforge.net/ | Jan 29 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tipc.sourceforge.net | TIPC Home Page | Jan 29 16:56 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the other one http://tipc.sourceforge.net/features.shtml | Jan 29 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tipc.sourceforge.net | TIPC Features | Jan 29 17:03 | |
| oiaohm | TIPC is only designed to work when you have a network stack. | Jan 29 17:03 |
| MinceR | i wonder if you can still work without a network stack, considering dependencies in netlink and whatever | Jan 29 17:03 |
| MinceR | s/in/on/ | Jan 29 17:04 |
| MinceR | also, dbus needs a networks stack for unix domain sockets, doesn't it? | Jan 29 17:04 |
| oiaohm | TIPC is designed to require IP addresses.d | Jan 29 17:04 |
| oiaohm | dbus can use a local file socket without network addressing. | Jan 29 17:04 |
| oiaohm | Again using a local file socket this means kernel stuff like cgroups and LSM cannot clearly control what in heck is going on. | Jan 29 17:05 |
| MinceR | s/rks/rk/ | Jan 29 17:05 |
| oiaohm | The solution for sysvinit and before was hey lets make PID 1 special so it can block particular signals. | Jan 29 17:06 |
| oiaohm | and not bother exactly validating if user should be sending those signals to the init system. | Jan 29 17:07 |
| oiaohm | So this is just a horrible historic mess. | Jan 29 17:07 |
| MinceR | i was pretty sure whether you can send a signal to a process depended on your user id | Jan 29 17:07 |
| MinceR | and the process' user id | Jan 29 17:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, pm me | Jan 29 17:09 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ping | Jan 29 17:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit validation is basically all rights to control sysvinit or no rights to control sysvinit. This is not good when you might want to give a person the right to reboot a system but not the right to halt it. | Jan 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/7CwTih1.jpg | Jan 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that can be implemented outside sysvinit and outside the kernel | Jan 29 17:12 |
| MinceR | for example, via sudo | Jan 29 17:12 |
| MinceR | (or via policykit, but policykit is cancerous garbage) | Jan 29 17:12 |
| oiaohm | policykit is depending on dbus todo it. | Jan 29 17:12 |
| oiaohm | sudo you are depending on other layers of things todo it. | Jan 29 17:13 |
| MinceR | i thought i was only depending on setuid root, but whatever | Jan 29 17:13 |
| oiaohm | You run sudo you have to use a command to send message to sysvinit right and if that command has a bug sysvinit could recieve a different message. | Jan 29 17:14 |
| oiaohm | security the move moving parts the more likely something will go wrong. | Jan 29 17:15 |
| oiaohm | move should have been more | Jan 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825828251943727104 | Jan 29 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Some thoughts on 'imprint-X', the button pushing puzzle | Jan 29 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | game that had day-1 Linux support https://t.co/fDI0YxNYDU | Jan 29 17:18 |
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| MinceR | i'm pretty sure both kill and telinit are much simpler than any component of systemd | Jan 29 17:19 |
| MinceR | and also much more mature | Jan 29 17:19 |
| MinceR | 29 231504 < oiaohm> security the move moving parts the more likely something will go wrong. | Jan 29 17:19 |
| MinceR | precisely | Jan 29 17:19 |
| MinceR | this is exactly why systemd is a huge security threat | Jan 29 17:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is missing it. telinit and kill might be simpler but then to use the thing you have people using sudo that has a run as root and other items like it. So user is having to lift privilege to send a message. Then in the process of lifting privillage you are partly hiding who is sending message. | Jan 29 17:26 |
| MinceR | regardless of how you're doing it, you're eventually going to control a process of higher privilege | Jan 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | it's literally what you wanted to do | Jan 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | as for who is sending the message, i'm pretty sure it can be logged | Jan 29 17:27 |
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| oiaohm | what you will see with sudo is root is logged as sending the shutdown/reboot message. | Jan 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | sudo doesn't know who used sudo to run the command? i really doubt that | Jan 29 17:28 |
| oiaohm | can get confusing when 2 users issue commands around the same time. | Jan 29 17:29 |
| MinceR | no, they get their own sudo process | Jan 29 17:29 |
| oiaohm | two users send shutdown what user in fact did the shutdown. Since the init logged root as the one doing it you don't know. | Jan 29 17:30 |
| MinceR | you can log who told init to do it | Jan 29 17:31 |
| MinceR | also, if it happened at the same time, it doesn't matter | Jan 29 17:31 |
| oiaohm | Problem is where sudo user change the value init log is user 0 | Jan 29 17:31 |
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| oiaohm | this is why you want a proper IPC so the user can message directly. And be filtered on what they can and cannot do. | Jan 29 17:32 |
| oiaohm | So you get solid logs for who is doing what. | Jan 29 17:32 |
| MinceR | this a is pretty weak argument for bloating init | Jan 29 17:32 |
| MinceR | also, iirc there are minimal inits where pid1 has practically no role in shutting down | Jan 29 17:33 |
| oiaohm | To get features into the Linux kernel you have to demonstrate usage. So this results in having to built a init using horible extras in PID 1 demoing how a IPC controlled init can work. | Jan 29 17:37 |
| oiaohm | So some of systemd nightmare is a particular form of IPC missing then having to work around it. | Jan 29 17:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and some of it is pure bloat and poor quality control. Remember systemd developers started with the idea they would make the demo then quickly get kdbus so then be able to throw a huge blocks of code away. | Jan 29 17:39 |
| MinceR | yay, cancerd exists to poison the kernel | Jan 29 17:39 |
| MinceR | that's a relief | Jan 29 17:39 |
| MinceR | remember that "quickly get kdbus" involved porting kdbus into the kernel with as little thinking as possible | Jan 29 17:40 |
| MinceR | why can't they wait with kernel features until they have a _legitimate_ use for them? | Jan 29 17:40 |
| MinceR | i.e. not a techdemo that is also an NSA backdoor | Jan 29 17:40 |
| oiaohm | Remember a feature will not appear in Linux kernel without a demoed usage. Does not matter if there is a legitimate reason for the feature. It why it took so long to get tipc included in the Linux kernel back then. | Jan 29 17:44 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is a chicken and egg problem with linux kernel development. | Jan 29 17:44 |
| MinceR | that the chicken and the egg are designing it, instead of software engineers? | Jan 29 17:45 |
| MinceR | i take that back, that's an insult to chickens and eggs | Jan 29 17:46 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is not designed software. | Jan 29 17:46 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is blocks of designed software stuck together. | Jan 29 17:46 |
| oiaohm | If Linux kernel was designed software having 1000+ developers working on it at a time would be impossible. | Jan 29 17:47 |
| MinceR | and apparently also some crap in staging, like the hype-V thing with "/etc/init.d/networking restart" (or something very similar) hardcoded :> | Jan 29 17:48 |
| oiaohm | So some of systemd is the Linux kernel development model. | Jan 29 17:49 |
| MinceR | seems more accurate to say "some of the Linux kernel development is the systemd development model" | Jan 29 17:49 |
| oiaohm | Please not the Linux kernel development model current one goes back to 1995 | Jan 29 17:50 |
| oiaohm | not/note | Jan 29 17:50 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/825838248178098177 | Jan 29 17:50 |
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| MinceR | EXTERMINATE! | Jan 29 17:50 |
| oiaohm | So the nightmare development model of systemd well and truly predates it. | Jan 29 17:50 |
| oiaohm | Like kdbus failed but the memfd part of kdbus made it and has sorted out some issues that were being hacked around with file sockets. | Jan 29 17:51 |
| oiaohm | So kdbus had some minor success that part made it. | Jan 29 17:52 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder how unstable and insecure that part will make Linux | Jan 29 17:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you watched the lca2017 video on the Linux kernel documentation how it was organised. | Jan 29 17:53 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 29 17:53 |
| oiaohm | And to be correct currently still is orgnaised to a point. | Jan 29 17:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY_C-Z0qMSo It is a 45 min video. Linux kernel documentation historic has total lack of design and organisation. | Jan 29 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kernel documentation: what we have and where it's going - YouTube | Jan 29 17:55 | |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel documentation the mess it has been would be totally not acceptable in a designed project. | Jan 29 17:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you want to see a project working from a design model you look at python https://www.python.org/dev/peps/ where to add a new feature you put in a formal documented request when approved you code. | Jan 29 18:00 |
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| MinceR | yeah, i've seen a few of those | Jan 29 18:00 |
| oiaohm | You will see with Linux kernel in lots of cases documenting after the feature is in the Linux kernel. | Jan 29 18:01 |
| oiaohm | So the Linux kernel world is code and demo feature get it into staging then clean the code up to quality. | Jan 29 18:02 |
| oiaohm | Then maybe document it. | Jan 29 18:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: does not that work flow sound a lot like systemd | Jan 29 18:03 |
| MinceR | i don't see the "force everyone in the world to use and depend on your demo" step, though | Jan 29 18:03 |
| MinceR | perhaps the ratcrap BoD needs to be reminded that it isn't a real step? | Jan 29 18:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have a short memory. Example of top of head when Linux kernel on x86 changed from 8k memory blocks to 4k memory blocks on x86 so breaking nvidia drivers and the like. | Jan 29 18:05 |
| MinceR | so? | Jan 29 18:05 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel has changed features in past and said stuff it. | Jan 29 18:06 |
| oiaohm | who push the 8k to 4k change none other than Redhat. | Jan 29 18:06 |
| MinceR | when did they break userspace? | Jan 29 18:06 |
| oiaohm | 8k to 4k change did break some userspace applications. | Jan 29 18:07 |
| MinceR | then go tell Linus he's a hypocrite | Jan 29 18:07 |
| MinceR | please link the mail in the archive so i can see the fireworks | Jan 29 18:07 |
| oiaohm | It was fireworks Linus said that Linux kernel had not formally promised a page side in fact the documentation stated the other way so everyone could suck it up. | Jan 29 18:08 |
| oiaohm | http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/page_sizes.html on page sizes Linus is all over the place. | Jan 29 18:13 |
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| oiaohm | Some of Linux kernel IO issues are due to small memory block sizes. | Jan 29 18:13 |
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| cubexyz | package types, bah | Jan 29 21:40 |
| cubexyz | use tarballs :) | Jan 29 21:40 |
| cubexyz | when I ported a bunch of stuff to zaurus it was all from tarballs | Jan 29 21:47 |
| cubexyz | it's better not to get too dependent on packages | Jan 29 21:48 |
| cubexyz | by all means use them if they are available | Jan 29 21:48 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I just noticed something a bit odd | Jan 29 21:55 |
| cubexyz | some of the files in /var/log have time stamps of 1999 and 1996 | Jan 29 21:55 |
| oiaohm | that is odd. | Jan 29 21:56 |
| cubexyz | ksyms.1, ksyms.2, ksyms.3 etc | Jan 29 21:57 |
| cubexyz | sometime is logging ksyms | Jan 29 21:59 |
| cubexyz | something | Jan 29 21:59 |
| oiaohm | what system is this. | Jan 29 21:59 |
| cubexyz | FC1 | Jan 29 21:59 |
| oiaohm | because it really old to log ksyms | Jan 29 21:59 |
| oiaohm | odd not old. | Jan 29 22:00 |
| oiaohm | Hmm that would not be kernel opps logs. | Jan 29 22:01 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what program is doing the logging | Jan 29 22:02 |
| cubexyz | klogd I guess? | Jan 29 22:03 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't think any of my other computers log that | Jan 29 22:05 |
| oiaohm | I find it mentioned in a 1999 list of log files and marked as not readable by humans. | Jan 29 22:05 |
| cubexyz | I'll host one of the files and you can look at it | Jan 29 22:06 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 29 22:07 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ksyms.0 | Jan 29 22:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/ksyms.0 ) | Jan 29 22:07 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its a feature that disappears while we were not looking. | Jan 29 22:08 |
| cubexyz | preservation :) | Jan 29 22:09 |
| oiaohm | there use to be a /dev/ksyms and tools to access it until it was found how it could be used to breach a kernel. | Jan 29 22:09 |
| cubexyz | it looks like ASCII, I'm just using vi to look at it | Jan 29 22:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: modern /dev/ksyms in Linux hides at /proc/kallsyms | Jan 29 22:12 |
| oiaohm | Same ascii information without the tools. | Jan 29 22:12 |
| cubexyz | ah I see | Jan 29 22:12 |
| cubexyz | no logging though | Jan 29 22:12 |
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| oiaohm | /dev/ksyms was basically under linux snooping the elf information making up the linux kernel. | Jan 29 22:13 |
| oiaohm | So was giving away a bit more infomation than just the symbols. | Jan 29 22:13 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is the thing when you go back to some of the really old systems there are item that are gone for very good reasons. | Jan 29 22:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/825991708936663041 | Jan 30 05:29 |
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| schestowitz | > x | Jan 30 05:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-microsoft-corporation-will-put-1-billion-into-cyber-security-msft-cm739843 | Jan 30 05:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nasdaq.com | Why Microsoft Corporation Will Put $1 Billion Into Cyber-Security (MSFT) | Jan 30 05:34 | |
| schestowitz | > one can only expect that this means moving to the FreeBSD kernel and | Jan 30 05:34 |
| schestowitz | > user space with a tricked-out KDE GUI :P | Jan 30 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe they means NATIONAL security, i.e. spreading Good{tm} back doors. | Jan 30 05:34 |
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| MinceR | it probably means they'll spend that $1 million on _advertising_ how secure their crap is | Jan 30 07:06 |
| oiaohm | To attempt to perform a security audit on the size of the windows OS code base requires more than 1 billion dollars. | Jan 30 07:07 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: First the code base, then the security audit :). | Jan 30 07:07 |
| XRevan86 | Closed source audits are much more useless (for the regular user). | Jan 30 07:09 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll find a way to call something much cheaper "an audit" | Jan 30 07:09 |
| MinceR | (also useless, obviously) | Jan 30 07:09 |
| XRevan86 | Because Microsoft can re-spin security issues as backdoors. | Jan 30 07:09 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: wish I had the link for the calculated price tag to audit the Linux kernel. | Jan 30 07:09 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Estimated_cost_to_redevelop the audit cost is about the same cost to redevelop the thing. So Linux kernel a full audit is about 3 billion dollars. | Jan 30 07:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linux kernel - Wikipedia | Jan 30 07:12 | |
| oiaohm | Remember Microsoft allows closed source drivers so cannot audit everything no matter what. | Jan 30 07:13 |
| oiaohm | https://sel4.systems/Info/Docs/GD-NICTA-whitepaper.pdf when you look at the audit process of sel4 you find the audit cost is double to 6 times the cost of normal development. | Jan 30 07:15 |
| oiaohm | It all a question of how much you pay developers the first time around. | Jan 30 07:17 |
| oiaohm | High quality software is down right expensive. | Jan 30 07:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826048349715341312 | Jan 30 08:17 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/6TGML | Jan 30 08:22 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: But if Finland is to be annexed, how will some people be able to cargo some unique EU things from Finland to St. Petersburg? | Jan 30 08:48 |
| MinceR | as if these tyrants cared about that | Jan 30 08:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What do they care about? | Jan 30 08:52 |
| XRevan86 | Especially something they can find in Finland %). | Jan 30 08:52 |
| MinceR | themselves | Jan 30 08:52 |
| MinceR | commie leaders imported western products for their own use, doesn't mean they let their enslaved population do the same | Jan 30 08:53 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In my apartment there used to be a television set "Sharp". | Jan 30 08:54 |
| XRevan86 | back from early 80s | Jan 30 08:54 |
| XRevan86 | A TV that served more than 20 years. They don't make things like they used to :D. | Jan 30 08:56 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, it wasn't bought in a store. It was shipped to the country, legally. | Jan 30 09:01 |
| XRevan86 | USSR had somewhat like 4 periods in its existence. It seems unfair to just smash them all together and call everyone Stalin. | Jan 30 09:06 |
| XRevan86 | Only around 70 years and so much happened, yeah. | Jan 30 09:07 |
| MinceR | it's even more unfair to pretend it was all just peachy and force such a regime on everyone | Jan 30 09:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Good thing nobody does that. | Jan 30 09:08 |
| MinceR | many people do that nowadays | Jan 30 09:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nobody wants USSR exactly how it was to the millimetre. | Jan 30 09:09 |
| oiaohm | Every form of government has it advantages and disadvantages. | Jan 30 09:12 |
| *XRevan86 will be back in around half an hour. | Jan 30 09:13 | |
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| *XRevan86 is back. | Jan 30 09:42 | |
| XRevan86 | Half an hour, how unintentionally punctual of me :). | Jan 30 09:43 |
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| MinceR | yeah, for example, putain wants it with the state religion replaced | Jan 30 12:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What replaced? | Jan 30 12:06 |
| XRevan86 | The Isaac's Cathedral? | Jan 30 12:08 |
| XRevan86 | There's a bit of a thing going on around it. | Jan 30 12:09 |
| MinceR | cult of personality (lenin, stalin, marx, etc.) replaced with christianity + cult of personality (putler) | Jan 30 12:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Cult of personality is what Stalin did around the figure of Lenin and somewhat around himself. | Jan 30 12:11 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/TVQWc | Jan 30 12:11 |
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| XRevan86 | Putin doesn't even try. | Jan 30 12:11 |
| MinceR | so the cult just emerged on its own? | Jan 30 12:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Where's the cult? | Jan 30 12:12 |
| XRevan86 | I don't see portraits of Putin in houses for instance. | Jan 30 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | The only places that are full of Putin are souvenir shops for some reason %). | Jan 30 12:13 |
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| MinceR | i see plenty of photos of putain being shared | Jan 30 12:14 |
| MinceR | and photos of souvenirs, yes | Jan 30 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/826116355405512720 | Jan 30 12:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RaspAnd Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat with Kodi 17 RC4 on Raspberry Pi 3 | Tux Machines | Jan 30 12:14 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The West just doesn't count. | Jan 30 12:14 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Because with The West the message would be "somebody wants people to remember who Putin is". | Jan 30 12:15 |
| XRevan86 | in The West | Jan 30 12:15 |
| XRevan86 | And souvenirs – that's business, they make junk tourists are willing to buy. | Jan 30 12:16 |
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| MinceR | yes, but why are tourists willing to buy that? | Jan 30 12:16 |
| XRevan86 | pink ushankas, matroshkas, etc. | Jan 30 12:17 |
| MinceR | vlad figurines | Jan 30 12:17 |
| MinceR | pink? is that even legal in russia? | Jan 30 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Probably not because they watched russian domestic television. | Jan 30 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bad taste is not outlawed yet. | Jan 30 12:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, they instead read putain's propaganda online | Jan 30 12:18 |
| MinceR | afaik being gay or at least using symbols thereof is outlawed | Jan 30 12:19 |
| MinceR | "gay propaganda" | Jan 30 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In St. Petersburg there's something like that. | Jan 30 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Having a gay flag is probably not in the list of outlawed thing. | Jan 30 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | I've seen people with gay badges. Not in prison %). | Jan 30 12:22 |
| MinceR | so what did the government do at the olympics? | Jan 30 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Also, the law is all about "think of the children!" so 18+ places can still gay-propagate to any extent. | Jan 30 12:23 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't expect consistency from fundies | Jan 30 12:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Basically, if you don't make a fuss, nobody cares. | Jan 30 12:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how Russia works. | Jan 30 12:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, shut up, lay low, and do your slave work quietly for vlad | Jan 30 12:30 |
| MinceR | freedom of speech is something that happens to other people (but not for long) | Jan 30 12:30 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dXg5TwH.jpg | Jan 30 12:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Sounds closer to reality than your original statement :). | Jan 30 12:33 |
| XRevan86 | > slave work for vlad | Jan 30 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | That's an interesting spin on taxes. | Jan 30 12:35 |
| MinceR | not just taxes, also everything being owned by vlad, the totalitarian state, or oligarchs owned by vlad | Jan 30 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | If you count the US as a totalitarian state (not because of the newly-elected), then I guess so. | Jan 30 12:38 |
| MinceR | i didn't, but it's turning into that | Jan 30 12:38 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/N755G9f.jpg | Jan 30 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | [12:09] <XRevan86> Because Microsoft can re-spin security issues as backdoors. | Jan 30 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Usually the other way around | Jan 30 14:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a fruitful relationship between security issues and back doors :). | Jan 30 14:13 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 30 14:14 |
| MinceR | security issues and backdoors thrive while your rights are destroyed and your resources taken away | Jan 30 14:14 |
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| schestowitz | sabotage of PCs of people="accident" | Jan 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | [19:03] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/N755G9f.jpg | Jan 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, as if liking someone is a "big dead" | Jan 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | problems of 21st century gurls [sic] | Jan 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | with their FB account and "cell" phone | Jan 30 14:18 |
| MinceR | deady issues | Jan 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/826091835147816962 | Jan 30 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz But even so, software patents are generally incomprehensible and lack novelty for any developer skilled in the art. | Jan 30 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: this is why we'll go extinct sooner than I thought | Jan 30 14:20 |
| MinceR | maybe | Jan 30 14:22 |
| MinceR | http://loldongs.dk/img/MjAxNy0wMS0xNSAxNTowOTowNw_MTA0LjIwNy44NC4zOQ.jpeg | Jan 30 14:23 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 30 15:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Jan 30 15:22 |
| razielle_tzu | hai | Jan 30 15:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well this is disapointing the first two minutes or so are missing from that speech. so the build up the jokey stuff etc | Jan 30 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | missing from video | Jan 30 15:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe he took that out himself for some reason, or forgot to record in time, but hmm | Jan 30 15:25 |
| razielle_tzu | it happens | Jan 30 15:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, also I am being a bit chicken just now at watching it with sound on my headset | Jan 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | Jan 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Punctuation matters | Jan 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | http://loldongs.dk/img/MjAxNy0wMS0xNSAxNTowOTowNw_MTA0LjIwNy44NC4zOQ.jpeg | Jan 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Unless it was a #trump supporter ^_^ | Jan 30 15:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, but who likes there own voice etc anyway? | Jan 30 15:27 |
| razielle_tzu | i know a few people that do | Jan 30 15:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and ill look like a geek or whatever to i guess | Jan 30 15:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but i guess thats me then | Jan 30 15:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, so stand still to. in a way should move around ore, but not ike some of them | Jan 30 15:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 30 15:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | MinceR, yes? | Jan 30 15:36 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 30 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826166401966755840 | Jan 30 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Typoman: Revised is coming to Linux & SteamOS and they | Jan 30 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | require Beta testers https://t.co/J4I57ke61C | Jan 30 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 30 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Typoman: Revised is coming to Linux & SteamOS and they require Beta testers | GamingOnLinux | Jan 30 15:44 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1462.html | Jan 30 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Jan 30 15:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edrollo/status/826170897086238722 | Jan 30 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edrollo: @schestowitz So you pull out one tweet and it's supposed to shape national policy? So weak. | Jan 30 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/6TGML | Jan 30 15:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826169092897914881 | Jan 30 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 7700K Linux Benchmarks | Jan 30 15:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | We're looking for Ubuntu 17.04 wallpapers right now! | Jan 30 16:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaines.livejournal.com | We're looking for Ubuntu 17.04 wallpapers right now! - Nathan's Journal | Jan 30 16:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Vendetta Online MMORPG Gets New Gamepad Configuration UI | Jan 30 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Android, More https://t.co/6YXhqcfIYx | Jan 30 16:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online MMORPG Gets New Gamepad Configuration UI for Android, More | Jan 30 16:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Applications Begin Appearing In The Ubuntu Snap Store | Jan 30 16:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux | Jan 30 16:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new | Jan 30 16:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Jan 30 16:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 30 16:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GhostBSD 11.0 PREALPHA4 is ready for testing | Jan 30 16:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new | Jan 30 16:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new notebook | Tux Machines | Jan 30 16:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new notebook https://t.co/rCRPtmDzeq https://t.co/cWqKcIH6Sw | Jan 30 16:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mint 18.1 KDE & Xfce, Bodhi 4.1.0, | Jan 30 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pkN74GrlAt (www.kernel.org) RIP | Jan 30 16:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 18.1 KDE & Xfce, Bodhi 4.1.0, ftp.kernel.org RIP | Tux Machines | Jan 30 16:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux | Jan 30 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux Gaming Tests | Tux Machines | Jan 30 16:16 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 30 16:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | You Can Play DOOM (2016) and Hitman: Absolution on Linux | Jan 30 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Wine Staging 2.0 https://t.co/UlqAliy1q4 | Jan 30 16:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | You Can Play DOOM (2016) and Hitman: Absolution on Linux with Wine Staging 2.0 | Jan 30 16:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.8.2 Security Fix Improves the Linux Application | Jan 30 16:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU Winsys Gets Minor Optimization From Pitoiset | Jan 30 16:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU Winsys Gets Minor Optimization From Pitoiset - Phoronix | Jan 30 16:23 | |
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| schestowitz | More on Shiva http://fossforce.com/2017/01/man-didnt-invent-email-attacks-free-speech/ | Jan 30 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | The Man Who Didn't Invent Email Attacks Free Speech | FOSS Force | Jan 30 16:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi | Jan 30 16:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi | Tux Machines | Jan 30 16:49 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoguePOTUSStaff: Rumors are true. Expect by end of the week. https://t.co/Mx89ZaY4ND | Jan 30 17:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@devchelle: @RoguePOTUSStaff there are rumors of anti LGBT EO coming. Can you shed light on that? | Jan 30 17:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Device With This Guide https://t.co/DrXjFTBtQb | Jan 30 18:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | Install a Windowed GNU/Linux Environment On Any Android Device With This Guide | Jan 30 18:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Subgraph OS 2016.12.30 Alpha https://t.co/qOy5JUpQYu | Jan 30 18:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distro: Final Round of Voting Has Begun | Jan 30 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Now Available for 32-Bit | Jan 30 18:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch OTA-15 Hotfix Update Could Land Soon for | Jan 30 18:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calamares 3.0 Gets First Point Release to Improve SDDM | Jan 30 19:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calamares 3.0 Gets First Point Release to Improve SDDM Autologin Config Handling | Jan 30 19:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Now Available for 32-Bit | Jan 30 19:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best icon packs for Android https://t.co/8HvfDw1bMJ | Jan 30 19:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Best icon packs for Android | Android Central | Jan 30 19:14 | |
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| MinceR | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/01/30/2241256/lgs-ultrafine-5k-display-becomes-useless-when-its-within-two-meters-of-a-router | Jan 30 21:04 |
| MinceR | letting crApple "engineers" touch an LG product had its effect, as could be predicted | Jan 30 21:04 |
| cubexyz | huh? | Jan 30 21:04 |
| cubexyz | 5k? | Jan 30 21:04 |
| cubexyz | I didn't realize 5K was a thing | Jan 30 21:05 |
| MinceR | i didn't either | Jan 30 21:05 |
| MinceR | i hope this won't affect future LG products | Jan 30 21:05 |
| cubexyz | LG kind of sucks anyways | Jan 30 21:05 |
| cubexyz | No service manual for the RH938 | Jan 30 21:05 |
| cubexyz | er... RH398 | Jan 30 21:05 |
| MinceR | dunno, i have an LG monitor tv and i'm mostly satisfied with it | Jan 30 21:06 |
| cubexyz | the monitors might be OK | Jan 30 21:06 |
| MinceR | except that it tends to turn certain pale blues into violets | Jan 30 21:06 |
| cubexyz | it's there DVD recorder I'm fighting with | Jan 30 21:06 |
| cubexyz | s/there/their/ | Jan 30 21:06 |
| MinceR | dvd writer? | Jan 30 21:06 |
| MinceR | or video recorder? | Jan 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | consumer device... one of those stand-alone DVD recorders | Jan 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | for TVs | Jan 30 21:07 |
| MinceR | i don't really see the point of those | Jan 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | ah, a friend of mine wanted help with it | Jan 30 21:07 |
| cubexyz | not mine :) | Jan 30 21:08 |
| MinceR | well, except i suppose if you're recording from tv, it might have a tuner that sucks less than tv tuners for pc-s | Jan 30 21:08 |
| MinceR | i bought this monitor tv because i got sick of trying to get a picture out of tuner cards/boxes | Jan 30 21:08 |
| cubexyz | it's mostly a black box, especially without any service manual | Jan 30 21:08 |
| MinceR | and it worked | Jan 30 21:08 |
| cubexyz | maybe LG's monitors are OK, I haven't had one apart yet | Jan 30 21:09 |
| MinceR | they had the distinction of offering actual subpixel warranty, which was very rare at the time, at least in hungary | Jan 30 21:10 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5K_resolution there is a reason why us PC users don't talk about 5k. 5k does not work over DVI. 4K is the highest over DVI. Then it displayport, HDMI or thunderbolt | Jan 30 21:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 30 21:10 |
| cubexyz | is anyone broadcasting in 5K? | Jan 30 21:10 |
| MinceR | HDMI and DP are fine, imo | Jan 30 21:10 |
| MinceR | i don't have thunderbolt yet | Jan 30 21:11 |
| cubexyz | I thought 8K would be the next step up, but surprise... 5K | Jan 30 21:11 |
| MinceR | though that kinda surprises me | Jan 30 21:11 |
| MinceR | considering that afaik DVI and HDMI use the same protocol | Jan 30 21:11 |
| MinceR | just different connectors | Jan 30 21:11 |
| MinceR | (that is, DVI-D) | Jan 30 21:11 |
| cubexyz | what is bluray res again? | Jan 30 21:12 |
| cubexyz | 1920x1080? | Jan 30 21:12 |
| MinceR | i think so | Jan 30 21:12 |
| MinceR | it isn't specific to bluray though, it's just fullhd | Jan 30 21:12 |
| cubexyz | so they'll need a successor to bluray as well :) | Jan 30 21:12 |
| cubexyz | to handle 4K and beyond | Jan 30 21:12 |
| oiaohm | blueray does have 4k discs. | Jan 30 21:12 |
| MinceR | i think that's called 'streaming' | Jan 30 21:12 |
| MinceR | with DRM, of course | Jan 30 21:12 |
| oiaohm | I have not seen 5k or 8k in blueray yet. | Jan 30 21:13 |
| cubexyz | do you need a special bluray 4K player for that or...? | Jan 30 21:13 |
| oiaohm | Ok there is a 8k disc https://www.engadget.com/2008/10/24/baraka-first-ever-8k-hd-restoration-blu-ray-disc-gets-ship-date/ | Jan 30 21:14 |
| cubexyz | ah, there's ultra hd blu-ray players | Jan 30 21:14 |
| MinceR | baraka, from mortal kombat? :> | Jan 30 21:14 |
| oiaohm | 8k media is quite rare. | Jan 30 21:14 |
| oiaohm | Free to air TV most of those cap out at the standard 1920x1080 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| oiaohm | And if you don't want to eat internet bandwidth from hell you normally stop at that point as well on internet stuff. | Jan 30 21:15 |
| cubexyz | I think Europe has a FTA 4K shopping channel | Jan 30 21:17 |
| MinceR | ooh, a shopping channel | Jan 30 21:17 |
| MinceR | in 2017 :> | Jan 30 21:17 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 30 21:17 |
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| cubexyz | I guess everyone heard about HMV going bust | Jan 30 21:19 |
| cubexyz | no surprise | Jan 30 21:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://eftm.com.au/2016/11/finally-all-the-free-to-air-channels-in-hd-33099 << Like here in Australia if a free to air decide to broadcast a 4k channel they have no more radio bandwidth left. | Jan 30 21:19 |
| cubexyz | interesting | Jan 30 21:20 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of HMV | Jan 30 21:20 |
| oiaohm | So broadcasting 5k anytime soon in Australia is absolutely not going to happen. | Jan 30 21:20 |
| cubexyz | makes me wonder what happens to all the old HDTVs | Jan 30 21:21 |
| oiaohm | Settop box fix. | Jan 30 21:22 |
| oiaohm | HDTV still has a hdmi port still able to take 1920x1080 so stick a settop box on top of tv that knows the mpeg4 instead of the other encoding and they are working fine. | Jan 30 21:23 |
| cubexyz | there's some FTA satellite stuff, haven't set that up as yet | Jan 30 21:23 |
| oiaohm | FTA satelite has the same issue to fit channels in you have bandwidth limits. | Jan 30 21:24 |
| cubexyz | Eulelsat 7 and a bunch of other ones | Jan 30 21:24 |
| oiaohm | Reality is 4k is down right huge. | Jan 30 21:24 |
| oiaohm | and 8k is in the area of scary. | Jan 30 21:24 |
| cubexyz | Eutelsat 7 | Jan 30 21:24 |
| oiaohm | A 8k broadcast would take almost all the bandwidth space 4 of the 5 public tv networks in Australia. | Jan 30 21:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe use higher frequencies? | Jan 30 21:25 |
| oiaohm | Radio spectrum has to be bought. | Jan 30 21:25 |
| oiaohm | To be correct leased. | Jan 30 21:26 |
| oiaohm | the more you want the more you have to pay. | Jan 30 21:26 |
| cubexyz | there's EHF | Jan 30 21:26 |
| cubexyz | don't know if they can use that for TV though | Jan 30 21:26 |
| cubexyz | ah, too short of a range | Jan 30 21:27 |
| oiaohm | And as a commercial user you have to pay for EHF space. | Jan 30 21:27 |
| oiaohm | For the money you can make from advertising for a free to air tv 4K is very questionable 8k is up in the point of not possible. | Jan 30 21:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes home shopping doing 4k they are basically wall to wall advertisement. | Jan 30 21:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah no thanks :) | Jan 30 21:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes wall to wall adveristment is basically what is required to cover the costs at 4k and make a profit. At 8k where you need to make 4x more is kinda stuffed area. | Jan 30 21:30 |
| oiaohm | So other than channels I will not want to watch I don't expect to see 4k at least for another 10 years and 8k most likely not in my life time as free to air. | Jan 30 21:31 |
| cubexyz | Canada didn't even switch to ATSC until 2011 | Jan 30 21:32 |
| cubexyz | we even have one analog channel still | Jan 30 21:33 |
| cubexyz | CHEX-TV2 | Jan 30 21:33 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like having 4 different standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T#/media/File:Digital_broadcast_standards.svg | Jan 30 21:33 |
| MinceR | the great thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from | Jan 30 21:35 |
| MinceR | (though m$ prefers the thing about them that they can all be ignored yet their names can be used for advertisement) | Jan 30 21:36 |
| oiaohm | What is kinda evil in Australia is half the historic free to air radio space was taken away for wireless broadband 4g after the change to digital tv. | Jan 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's evil about that | Jan 30 21:43 |
| MinceR | wireless broadband seems much more useful than broadcast tv | Jan 30 21:43 |
| cubexyz | a free service displaced with a pay service... | Jan 30 21:44 |
| cubexyz | unless there's free 4g which I doubt | Jan 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | an outdated dinosaur of a service wasting bandwidth displaced with a useful service :> | Jan 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | also, do they not tax you for tv in australia? | Jan 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | is there none of that tv license madness that goes on in the uk? | Jan 30 21:45 |
| cubexyz | not in Canada at least | Jan 30 21:54 |
| cubexyz | don't know about Australia | Jan 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 30 21:55 |
| cubexyz | actually I think they used to have a tv tax but it was abolished | Jan 30 21:56 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#Australia | Jan 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | so it's paid by government grants, i.e. taxes | Jan 30 21:58 |
| MinceR | therefore it's not "free" | Jan 30 21:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | A Look at What's Next for Ubuntu Linux in 2017 | Jan 30 21:59 |
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| cubexyz | I don't like how some distros are phasing out 32-bit | Jan 30 22:09 |
| MinceR | maybe the next systemd will require a more powerful cpu than any of the 32bit-only ones | Jan 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | or will just require more than 4GB RAM | Jan 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | it is the One Microsoft Way, after all | Jan 30 22:11 |
| cubexyz | well, eventually my own distro is probably in the cards | Jan 30 22:14 |
| cubexyz | only way to be sure I get what I want | Jan 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 30 22:15 |
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| cubexyz | with the gtk stuff they kept making the nroff man pages for applications | Jan 30 22:21 |
| cubexyz | but not the KDE stuff | Jan 30 22:21 |
| cubexyz | well, some of the gtk stuff at least | Jan 30 22:21 |
| MinceR | kde had the khelpcenter, iirc | Jan 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | html-based | Jan 30 22:22 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 30 22:22 |
| cubexyz | glabels, gkrellm... they had nroff man pages | Jan 30 22:22 |
| cubexyz | I guess I could just make some nroff man pages for KDE programs | Jan 30 22:23 |
| cubexyz | when I write a motif app I made a man page for it | Jan 30 22:29 |
| cubexyz | in the olden days you could "man mwm" | Jan 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | i never made manpages | Jan 30 22:30 |
| cubexyz | wasn't universe though | Jan 30 22:31 |
| cubexyz | wasn't universal | Jan 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | often i just write usage in the top lines of the application code :> | Jan 30 22:31 |
| cubexyz | did you ever write any motif stuff? | Jan 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 30 22:33 |
| MinceR | my first unix application with gui was based on Qt, i think | Jan 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | then i did a bit of GTK+, then went back to Qt | Jan 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | though now i prefer ncurses if it's sufficient for the app | Jan 30 22:34 |
| cubexyz | ah | Jan 30 22:35 |
| cubexyz | yeah I'm looking into ncurses applications | Jan 30 22:35 |
| cubexyz | iptraf is very useful | Jan 30 22:53 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/FYvkq | Jan 30 23:04 |
| cubexyz | the whole right/left thing is tedious | Jan 30 23:06 |
| cubexyz | US didn't do enough to keep manufacturing jobs | Jan 30 23:07 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | especially when it's the authoritarian side that's winning hard | Jan 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual | Jan 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | fundamentalism in the uk | Jan 30 23:24 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality is systemd is being used in some embedded systems with less than 128megs of ram. | Jan 31 00:03 |
| cubexyz | uh, why? | Jan 31 00:05 |
| cubexyz | why in the world would you use systemd in a space constrained system? | Jan 31 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Turns out systemd as a service manager works very well. Ie detect that a service has died and automatically restart it and other things like that. | Jan 31 00:06 |
| cubexyz | I figured embedded would use busybox or something similar | Jan 31 00:07 |
| oiaohm | http://she-devel.com/ELC_systemd.pdf If you read down here you notice service watchdogs and other highly useful items like that. | Jan 31 00:08 |
| oiaohm | busybox init solution and sysvinit does really include those features. | Jan 31 00:08 |
| cubexyz | busybox runs on my TV and I've never had any problems | Jan 31 00:10 |
| cubexyz | uh, beyond replacing the timer controller... but that's hardware | Jan 31 00:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd memory footprint is 10 megs in the embeded usage. So for all the talk about systemd being really huge on memory the reality is it not exactly light but its not exactly heavy either. | Jan 31 00:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure it's a lot bigger than busybox | Jan 31 00:13 |
| cubexyz | so no thanks | Jan 31 00:13 |
| cubexyz | of course you'll need to research things carefully to even know what you get | Jan 31 00:14 |
| oiaohm | If you are needing to watchdog services you need to add like deamontools on to busybox then that does not have cgroups ... Basically once you need to watchdog services and have to restart them when they fail systemd starts looking light. | Jan 31 00:14 |
| oiaohm | If what you are building you don't need to watchdog stuff and be sure to kill all of a failed service then using systemd is heavy. | Jan 31 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Worst part is the old sysvinit with is multi levels of running scripts could exceed on some systems 20 megs of ram. | Jan 31 00:16 |
| oiaohm | So systemd and sysvinit what one heavier depends on what they are running. | Jan 31 00:17 |
| oiaohm | For a reason why systems need more than 4G of ram you would be better off looking at blaming web browers and the like. The reality is the ram usage by init systems is almost insignificant even what would be classed as heavy init systems. | Jan 31 00:21 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think some of the TVs were in the 128 meg of ram range | Jan 31 00:29 |
| cubexyz | there's even some TVs that run FreeBSD | Jan 31 00:30 |
| cubexyz | not that I've ever got in | Jan 31 00:30 |
| cubexyz | maybe one could get XMBC running or something | Jan 31 00:35 |
| oiaohm | some of the smart tv are in the 1 to 4 G range | Jan 31 00:38 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, my TV doesn't need systemd :) | Jan 31 06:35 |
| cubexyz | what's next, toaster with systemd? | Jan 31 06:36 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I did not say everything required it. If you have a usage case that you do need to watchdog the services. Like a fridge monitoring system you don't want that failing to function and not be noticed. | Jan 31 06:44 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically what is the worst that going to happen if software in a TV locks up. Then think what is the worst that is going to happen if same thing happens in something like a fridge. A toaster does ask some questions if that should be too far automated due to fire risk. | Jan 31 06:47 |
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| cubexyz | that's the thing | Jan 31 06:49 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't | Jan 31 06:49 |
| oiaohm | Lot of fridges in shopping centers are networked with central monitoring to report failures before you have people getting bad food. | Jan 31 06:50 |
| oiaohm | So the fridge case there is a real world requirement of course you are not going to see a fancy interface on it. | Jan 31 06:51 |
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| cubexyz | I'm kind of wondering why Sony even used busybox | Jan 31 06:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its like the same reason they funded development of toybox. That wanted something to init the system. | Jan 31 07:00 |
| oiaohm | I find the toybox busybox split so stupid most usage of busybox and toybox are using the Linux kernel that is GPL anyhow so GPL conformance should have been normal. | Jan 31 07:01 |
| schestowitz | [11:36] <cubexyz> what's next, toaster with systemd? | Jan 31 07:21 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/toaster-manual/toaster-manual.html << I could have made a embedded joke. Yes the automated build system for one of the embedded Linux forms is called toaster. | Jan 31 07:28 |
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| cubexyz | I just noticed that my cdrom is really loud | Jan 31 07:42 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: the reality is that as ill-designed bloated systems grow, their hardware requirements grow as well | Jan 31 08:49 |
| MinceR | also, this pretense of systemd being flawless is amusing | Jan 31 08:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I am saying systemd is flawless. If you go over the years of different embedded conference presentations using systemd some how its embedded memory foot print in shrinking. | Jan 31 08:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is just one of those thing where the numbers from those using it are not adding up to what a lot are presuming. | Jan 31 08:58 |
| MinceR | yeah and microsoft says that they've made windows faster and lighter too | Jan 31 08:58 |
| oiaohm | This is not like Microsoft saying this. this is people making embedded solutions finding they need less now to run systemd than 12 month ago and even less than 2 years ago. | Jan 31 08:59 |
| oiaohm | So maybe systemd is starting to clean up sections of it code base? | Jan 31 08:59 |
| MinceR | have they stopped adding additional roles to systemd? i doubt it | Jan 31 09:03 |
| MinceR | (especially when you consider that they have yet to "standardize" the package manager, which would be a big blow to the distributions they're trying to destroy) | Jan 31 09:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bit of looking at systemd patches over those years a lot of memory leaks and fails to free when not need for time frame have been fixed. | Jan 31 09:05 |
| oiaohm | So it could be that the additional roles are not using more ram that what has been recovered by fixing the bugs. | Jan 31 09:05 |
| MinceR | i wonder what will reboot those embedded systems when systemd's memory leaks keep them from functioning :> | Jan 31 09:06 |
| oiaohm | hardware watchdog in most cases. | Jan 31 09:06 |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/npc/tale/26-16/ | Jan 31 09:08 |
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| oiaohm | Allocate then use once then leave allocated for a long time frame then first action rewrite. Those kind of bugs are just pointlessly holding an allocation. | Jan 31 09:08 |
| oiaohm | so you have leaks and pointlessly holding allocations in different systemd parts being fixed. | Jan 31 09:09 |
| MinceR | also, just pointlessly using dynamic memory in pid1 | Jan 31 09:09 |
| MinceR | when none of the roles of pid1 require it | Jan 31 09:09 |
| oiaohm | https://felipec.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/init/ there is more than a few examples of pid1 using dynamic memory. | Jan 31 09:12 |
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| oiaohm | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1998/09/msg00783.html <<< some of the funny ones is some sysvinit that do strange things are dyanmic memory using as well. | Jan 31 09:13 |
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| MinceR | sure there are | Jan 31 09:23 |
| MinceR | but it isn't necessary | Jan 31 09:23 |
| MinceR | calling wait() needs no dynamic memory | Jan 31 09:23 |
| MinceR | forking and execing /etc/rc or whatever also needs no dynamic memory | Jan 31 09:23 |
| MinceR | everything else is superfluous | Jan 31 09:24 |
| oiaohm | Processing the inittab that was in the sysvinit design you have missed. | Jan 31 09:27 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about sysvinit | Jan 31 09:28 |
| MinceR | sysvinit is a design that can be improved on, slimmed down | Jan 31 09:28 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit design with all the usage of shell and the allocations that causes cannot be slimmed down that much. | Jan 31 09:29 |
| oiaohm | before it no longer sysvinit. | Jan 31 09:30 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jan 31 09:30 |
| MinceR | is systemd the only pid1 claimant that is allowed to change the design? | Jan 31 09:30 |
| MinceR | are all the others heresy? | Jan 31 09:30 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit has a define of what it is. systemd was able to start a new design by allow itself to be distant from the sysvinit design limitations. Systemd was not the first init system todo this either. | Jan 31 09:32 |
| oiaohm | the reason why memory foot print of sysvinit and systemd are so close are the different memory wasting issues both have. | Jan 31 09:33 |
| oiaohm | Reality was that we were to the point where sysvinit was needing replacement. systemd design improves a few things and stuffs a few things up. | Jan 31 09:35 |
| MinceR | "few" | Jan 31 09:36 |
| MinceR | yea | Jan 31 09:36 |
| MinceR | breaks logging, breaks NTP, introduces ancient DNS vulnerabilities | Jan 31 09:36 |
| MinceR | breaks cron, screen, tmux, dtach | Jan 31 09:36 |
| MinceR | fails to reap zombies reliably | Jan 31 09:37 |
| MinceR | but who cares, it's "modern"! | Jan 31 09:37 |
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| oiaohm | sysvinit early versions had the fails to reap zombies seams to be a universal fault that comes every time someone writes a new init. http://serverfault.com/questions/611715/solaris-10-init-failing-to-reap-zombie-processes | Jan 31 09:39 |
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| MinceR | what a surprise, slowlaris failing at yet another basic task | Jan 31 09:40 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: runit stuffed it up on its 4 version. | Jan 31 09:41 |
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| MinceR | how many distributions were using it in their allegedly stable releases at that time? | Jan 31 09:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as I say the zombie fail turns out to be kinda universal when ever someone writes a new so called init do a zombie test if you go by history. | Jan 31 09:41 |
| oiaohm | I call the zombie issue a failure to learn from history. | Jan 31 09:41 |
| MinceR | what do you call tacking on superfluous features without caring to get the basics right? | Jan 31 09:42 |
| oiaohm | Even the DNS one where was the distribution quality control testing for that historic fault. Remember that historic fault could have come back from a bad glibc or many other causes. | Jan 31 09:44 |
| MinceR | also, i wonder which is the first version of runit that even offered pid1 support -- iirc it's not their focus | Jan 31 09:44 |
| MinceR | yes, a "historic fault" which is a well known trap to avoid for any competent person designing a DNS resolver | Jan 31 09:44 |
| oiaohm | Please note redhat found the same fault in 3 option resolvers they were shipping as well. | Jan 31 09:44 |
| MinceR | but it's hard to do competent design when you're just rushing to add more features | Jan 31 09:45 |
| oiaohm | There is need for a test suite looking for know historic glitches. | Jan 31 09:45 |
| MinceR | there is need for employing software engineers to design critical software | Jan 31 09:45 |
| oiaohm | To keep those historic glitches dead. | Jan 31 09:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when you are saying breaking NTP are you refering to this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-timesyncd | Jan 31 09:46 |
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| MinceR | yes | Jan 31 09:47 |
| oiaohm | There is in fact a reason against doing a full NTP sync. Turns out in a local lan with every machine attempting a full NTP can end up with time variations large enough to cause Kerberos and the like to fail. | Jan 31 09:48 |
| oiaohm | So there is a need for a trimmed down option. | Jan 31 09:49 |
| MinceR | and what has poettering done that's even remotely "trimmed down"? | Jan 31 09:49 |
| oiaohm | timesyncd is a very trimmed down NTP it only access 1 server and does not attempt any correction maths. | Jan 31 09:51 |
| oiaohm | timesyncd is even design that it cannot provide time to other systems. So if you want time server for a network you have to install the normal NTP packages. | Jan 31 09:52 |
| MinceR | you forgot the part where it depends on systemd | Jan 31 09:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this one gets interesting. when systemd-timesyncd was first made it depended on dbus and systemd-networkd today it only depends on dbus so can be built as a independant binary to the everything else systemd. | Jan 31 09:56 |
| oiaohm | Lot of parts of systemd these days can be built as indivdual binaries. | Jan 31 09:57 |
| oiaohm | Seams to be a issue just because it in the systemd source repository that it some how has to be built magically connected to everything else and that is not the case. | Jan 31 09:58 |
| MinceR | and when you fall for it, they spring the trap | Jan 31 09:58 |
| oiaohm | turns out having timesyncd linked to extra parts of systemd gave them more bugs to fix. | Jan 31 09:59 |
| oiaohm | Reality is not in systemd developer sanity to glue it too much together. | Jan 31 09:59 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is not like a busybox where they are stuffing it all in a single executable. | Jan 31 10:03 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34808956/dtach-in-systemd-service-file dtach one I not sure on that one. Systemd automatically starts services dtached. | Jan 31 10:06 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I have used a standard crond with systemd and I have used the python scripts of systemd-cron that map cron options to systemd. | Jan 31 10:07 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: screen, tmux if you did back when it comes to the design of logind before systemd there was the idea of add auto process kill on logout and there was a option in consolekit to have to do the same thing. | Jan 31 10:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all systemd did to screen and tmux really was change a default that was in consolekit to off to on in logind. | Jan 31 10:11 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: have you already forgotten about what they did to udev? | Jan 31 10:27 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/pxRdY | Jan 31 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source tree | Jan 31 10:28 | |
| MinceR | >The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible with | Jan 31 10:28 |
| MinceR | non-systemd init systems for a long time. | Jan 31 10:28 |
| MinceR | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | Jan 31 10:28 |
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| MinceR | >Unless the systemd-haters prepare another | Jan 31 10:28 |
| MinceR | kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we will | Jan 31 10:28 |
| MinceR | not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that | Jan 31 10:28 |
| MinceR | point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call. | Jan 31 10:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and you expect me to trust these microsoftian assholes with yet another piece of software | Jan 31 10:28 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: as for busybox, you can specify what parts you want built in that executable, and none of it locks you into the rest of busybox | Jan 31 10:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: dtach, screen and tmux are often started from the shell | Jan 31 10:33 |
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| MinceR | and yeah, "all systemd did" about that was break expected, correct behavior | Jan 31 10:33 |
| MinceR | but who cares what the owners and sysadmins want, in the brave new microsoftian world, poettering decides what happens on your linux-based systems | Jan 31 10:34 |
| MinceR | and then the morons from the FSF swear up and down it's soo freedom-respecting | Jan 31 10:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I had not forgotten about udev https://lwn.net/Articles/518942/ From the udev development the in Linux kernel firmware loader should have been backported. Because doing in userspace when issues went particular ways caused 30 second+ stalls. | Jan 31 16:08 |
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| MinceR | i see, so not only do you not mind poettering&co. luring users into traps, you then propose that it's the users' responsibility to climb out of the traps | Jan 31 16:10 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 31 16:10 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 31 16:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the udev one is tricky. If user uses like init=/bin/bash so udev is not started for some recovery reason and some driver fires up that need firmware since udev is not loaded the system can stall. | Jan 31 16:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so that is a bug and a half. | Jan 31 16:13 |
| MinceR | you're trying to divert from the point | Jan 31 16:15 |
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| oiaohm | No I am not the issue you pointed to was udev removing usermode firmware loading. The reason for that is a dispute. The dispute comes down to system recovery. | Jan 31 16:16 |
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| XRevan86 | SebthreeBQM10HD: hi | Jan 31 16:16 |
| oiaohm | systemd project attempted to apply force to get a feature backported. | Jan 31 16:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | XRevan86, hi | Jan 31 16:17 |
| oiaohm | Has the udev project before merge with systemd on other things done the same thing the answer is yes. | Jan 31 16:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so the udev issue was not exacty new. | Jan 31 16:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the systemd merge just really brought more media attention on when development of udev and kernel decided to fight. | Jan 31 16:18 |
| MinceR | wrong | Jan 31 16:18 |
| oiaohm | Not wrong the first udev kernel fight is 1999 | Jan 31 16:19 |
| MinceR | the assimilation of udev into systemd was simply an attempt to use lock-in to force systemd on all users of the linux kernel | Jan 31 16:19 |
| oiaohm | way before systemd | Jan 31 16:19 |
| MinceR | including android | Jan 31 16:19 |
| MinceR | can you elucidate to me how can udev depend on systemd "way before" systemd even existed? | Jan 31 16:19 |
| oiaohm | Google had backported kernel firmware loading into their 3.2 | Jan 31 16:19 |
| MinceR | i'd be very interested in this time machine red hat owns and operates | Jan 31 16:20 |
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| oiaohm | The 1999 fight was triggered fro suse. | Jan 31 16:21 |
| oiaohm | The assimilation of udev was that the project was put for 12 requesting a new maintainer and no one stepped forwards. | Jan 31 16:21 |
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| MinceR | and the one that did, did so with the intention of killing unix | Jan 31 16:22 |
| oiaohm | If you read when the that request was put up there was a warning that there there were distribution breaking changes that had to be looked at. | Jan 31 16:23 |
| oiaohm | So there is a lot around the udev mess. | Jan 31 16:24 |
| MinceR | but mostly just red hat being malicious | Jan 31 16:24 |
| oiaohm | Really exactly why is it redhat job on it own to maintain udev? At some point redhat does have to select their own interests. | Jan 31 16:25 |
| oiaohm | So the udev mess is caused how a lot of problems in open source has been caused. Depending on a project then not doing anything for maintainership then get up set when some change means it no longer works for your project. | Jan 31 16:26 |
| MinceR | yes, really, why does redhat have to touch it at all? | Jan 31 16:28 |
| oiaohm | Because otherwise there was going to be no maintainer at all to merge patches why they put a staff memember on it in the first place when it was udev because patches had not been merged for 3 months. | Jan 31 16:29 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jan 31 16:29 |
| MinceR | then it will stay in an old, but still usable state | Jan 31 16:29 |
| MinceR | as opposed to basically the slow and painful route to windows | Jan 31 16:29 |
| MinceR | if these people can only make software worse, then they perhaps should not get to touch it at all | Jan 31 16:29 |
| oiaohm | Redhat had maintained udev long before systemd. | Jan 31 16:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, redhat existed for a long time before they turned into microsoft's assassin | Jan 31 16:30 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://git.busybox.net/busybox/plain/docs/mdev.txt interesting enough over the udev merge and change only one distributions provided people to take care of the alternative. | Jan 31 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Excellent goalkeeper. Always was! https://twitter.com/LFC/status/826544235092594688 | Jan 31 16:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: do note the thing in the mdev.txt "Kernel does not serialize hotplug events." this include firmware request to userspace. And some buggy kernel driver can attempt to fire up when it has it firmware when a driver under it has not fired up because it does not have it firmware. This does not happen when the in kernel firmware loader is being used. | Jan 31 16:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a issue there at even using the alternative does not fix. | Jan 31 16:39 |
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| MinceR | i doubt that the kernel people can't fix this issue without turning GNU/Linux into windows | Jan 31 16:43 |
| MinceR | they tended to be otherwise relatively competent | Jan 31 16:43 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem. Newer branches of the Linux kernel fixed the firmware loader problem by integrating into kernel. And deprecating the userspace interface for loading firmware to the point that past a particular kernel version will never call userspace for firmware. | Jan 31 16:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sometimes the way the Linux kernel has fixed a particular issue then never back ports that fix to LTS versions is the problem. | Jan 31 16:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: old saying it takes two to tango and the udev and linux kernel mess over firmware loading both are at fault for different reasons. | Jan 31 16:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the udev firmware loading thing would be a different matter if you could point to mdev and equal showing an example working without bugs or that the kernel had not made another solution that had deprecated the interface. | Jan 31 16:56 |
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| cubexyz | systemd goes against unix philosophy | Jan 31 18:43 |
| cubexyz | I don't want it | Jan 31 18:43 |
| cubexyz | launchd is anti-unix for that matter | Jan 31 18:44 |
| cubexyz | have a look at my old scanner program: | Jan 31 18:45 |
| MinceR | but but but... unix is not "modern"! | Jan 31 18:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scantest3.c | Jan 31 18:45 |
| cubexyz | that won't work on new linux because /dev/usb/scanner0 doesn't exist | Jan 31 18:46 |
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| cubexyz | you can't rely on them not changing things | Jan 31 18:47 |
| MinceR | who would want to use a scanner program that wasn't written in the last 2 years anyway? :> | Jan 31 18:49 |
| cubexyz | there used to be a LKM for the scanner, but that got axed | Jan 31 18:49 |
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| cubexyz | my main point is the old system worked... it didn't need to be changed | Jan 31 18:50 |
| MinceR | (now using a broken adaptation of a badly designed kernel from 1977, with a windowing system built into it, and imitations thereof, on the other hand... now that's "modern"!) | Jan 31 18:50 |
| MinceR | i understand all that | Jan 31 18:50 |
| MinceR | but people like oiaohm apparently don't :> | Jan 31 18:50 |
| MinceR | for some people, what matters is that it must be new and shiny, and whether it works at all is uninteresting | Jan 31 18:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really there are a lot of reports before systemd that sysvinit had issues. Add in the multi attempt to make a replacement to sysvinit. That stuff does not happen if there are not bugs. | Jan 31 18:55 |
| cubexyz | they just like to change things | Jan 31 18:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly http://smarden.org/runit/ you have to remember before systemd we had stuff like this. | Jan 31 18:56 |
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| oiaohm | There were ongoing issues with service supervision due to defects in sysvinit design. | Jan 31 18:57 |
| oiaohm | So the idea to replace the init system did not come out the vacuum. | Jan 31 18:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also with putting video card memory management into kernel space was also the on-going issue of switch to console and back to graphical and have everything go nuts. | Jan 31 18:58 |
| cubexyz | even so forcing systemd on all distros is wrong | Jan 31 18:58 |
| cubexyz | just pick the init system you like and stick with it | Jan 31 18:58 |
| oiaohm | Lot of distributions were not forced. But also had not invested in making a solution of their own to the on going service management problem. | Jan 31 18:59 |
| oiaohm | systemd market share comes out of a vacuum of working solutions. | Jan 31 19:00 |
| cubexyz | upstart seemed OK to me | Jan 31 19:00 |
| cubexyz | backward compatible with the old system | Jan 31 19:01 |
| oiaohm | upstart was dropped by ubuntu for systemd because using ptrace to follow services for service management than not doing service management. | Jan 31 19:01 |
| oiaohm | Reality is the only group that has attempt a solution that stands a chance of working that is something like sysvinit is openrc start by gentoo. | Jan 31 19:02 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem when you dig in and ask the question does the service management work. You find repeated attempt to add service management to the init system that has bugs and does not work for years. | Jan 31 19:03 |
| MinceR | video card memory manager != windowing system | Jan 31 19:05 |
| MinceR | i think even dave cutler might be able to understand the difference | Jan 31 19:05 |
| MinceR | though i wouldn't bet on it | Jan 31 19:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Linux kernel has not put a windows system in kernel. | Jan 31 19:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 31 19:05 |
| MinceR | but poettering's great inspiration, windows nt, has | Jan 31 19:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but what people say is going like windows is drm in kernel that is memory management in kernel. | Jan 31 19:06 |
| oiaohm | In fact poettering was pushing to move the terminal code out of the Linux kernel. | Jan 31 19:06 |
| MinceR | upstart was horrible, but systemd makes it look good | Jan 31 19:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know | Jan 31 19:06 |
| oiaohm | So the idea of coping windows is in fact wrong. | Jan 31 19:06 |
| MinceR | poettering wants the terminal code in systemd, so you don't get to use linux without systemd | Jan 31 19:07 |
| MinceR | it's always the same goal | Jan 31 19:07 |
| oiaohm | Ok there is only 400+ CVE with the linux kernel terminal code. | Jan 31 19:07 |
| cubexyz | yeah he's trying to worm it into linux so it's forced | Jan 31 19:07 |
| cubexyz | was is wrong with upstart? | Jan 31 19:08 |
| MinceR | it abuses signals and ptrace | Jan 31 19:08 |
| cubexyz | did sysvinit do that? | Jan 31 19:09 |
| oiaohm | upstart service management that end up disabled more often then not used ptrace and signals in very horrible ways. | Jan 31 19:09 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 31 19:09 |
| MinceR | sysvinit relies on pid files | Jan 31 19:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: sysvinit does not have service management that works because it presumes PID numbers are never recycled. | Jan 31 19:09 |
| MinceR | except it does, because services very rarely crash and PID numbers are very rarely recycled | Jan 31 19:09 |
| oiaohm | So both are broken. | Jan 31 19:09 |
| MinceR | meanwhile systemd relies on cgroups for everything, even though they know it doesn't do reliably what they want from it | Jan 31 19:10 |
| cubexyz | but Linux does recycle PIDs does it not? | Jan 31 19:10 |
| oiaohm | Every distribution has a bugs reported why they were using sysvinit of cases of PID recycling and crashed services. | Jan 31 19:10 |
| MinceR | but that's fine, because it was blessed by poettering so all of its faults are to be ignored, otherwise you're a heretic | Jan 31 19:10 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jan 31 19:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so saying it does not have does not agree with distribution bug reports. | Jan 31 19:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes, it does | Jan 31 19:10 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jan 31 19:10 |
| MinceR | >every distribution | Jan 31 19:11 |
| MinceR | every distribution doesn't even have a bug tracker | Jan 31 19:11 |
| oiaohm | sysv that sysvinit is from reboot when it had used up all the PID numbers. | Jan 31 19:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, is there anything that works like sysvinit but doesn't have bugs? | Jan 31 19:11 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 31 19:11 |
| MinceR | all software that is at least as complex as sysvinit (i.e. non-trivial) is very likely to have bugs | Jan 31 19:11 |
| oiaohm | The closest is openrc but that thing is not complete. | Jan 31 19:11 |
| MinceR | openrc uses the sysvinit init binary | Jan 31 19:11 |
| cubexyz | wow, I can't recall any problems on FC1, and it's been 13 years now | Jan 31 19:12 |
| MinceR | that's because such problems are very unlikely | Jan 31 19:12 |
| MinceR | but they're the straws poettering&co. are grasping at | Jan 31 19:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sorry the PID issue in sysvinit was first documented in a book against Unix before Linux existed. | Jan 31 19:13 |
| oiaohm | So not straw aguements also that issue lead to many of the attempts to do service management. | Jan 31 19:14 |
| cubexyz | the system must increment the PID until it rises to a maximum value, then wrap around | Jan 31 19:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sorry, the cgroup issue is also documented, even in systemd source code | Jan 31 19:15 |
| cubexyz | not sure how long that takes | Jan 31 19:15 |
| MinceR | even though those guys probably experience physical pain every time they write a line of comment | Jan 31 19:15 |
| MinceR | seeing how rare they are in their shitty code | Jan 31 19:15 |
| cubexyz | I think AIX is a bit different though | Jan 31 19:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroup v1 was replaced by cgroupv2. | Jan 31 19:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 31 19:15 |
| MinceR | and then it will be replaced by v3 | Jan 31 19:15 |
| MinceR | and maybe eventually it will even work | Jan 31 19:15 |
| oiaohm | And to make cgroup v1 defects be fixed something that to use it in volume. | Jan 31 19:15 |
| cubexyz | which distros are you guys using now? | Jan 31 19:16 |
| MinceR | if there will even be demand for linux and anyone will still be working on it | Jan 31 19:16 |
| oiaohm | I am on debian testing. | Jan 31 19:16 |
| MinceR | despite redhat doing everything they can to destroy it | Jan 31 19:16 |
| MinceR | i'm still on crunchbang11, raspbian7, debian7 and devuan1 | Jan 31 19:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: unlikely to be a cgroup v3. cgroupv1 was a mess because it was 3 different project ideas mixed with each other and not unified to work as a single solution. | Jan 31 19:17 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm on FC1, slack and openbsd and chromeos and a bunch of other stuff | Jan 31 19:17 |
| oiaohm | Its like one of the current linux bugs of not being able to move memory blocks containing SLAB allocations to defrag ram to allow huge pages to be used to perform faster IO. | Jan 31 19:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: sweeping bugs under carpet with it works for me answer always end up with a change sooner or latter. | Jan 31 19:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: does sweeping bugs under the carpet with "but it's modern!" work better, then? | Jan 31 19:20 |
| cubexyz | what about new bugs? :) | Jan 31 19:21 |
| cubexyz | you think the new stuff is going to be bug free? | Jan 31 19:21 |
| MinceR | has this CADT approach of forgetting everything and rewriting the whole thing from scratch, rinse, and repeat, ever led to workable software? | Jan 31 19:21 |
| cubexyz | GE Nuclear power plants are still using PDP-11s | Jan 31 19:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: obviously, they're heretics | Jan 31 19:21 |
| cubexyz | now, there must be a reason for that | Jan 31 19:21 |
| MinceR | https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Jan 31 19:22 |
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| cubexyz | I suspect that it's because they know EXACTLY how it works | Jan 31 19:22 |
| oiaohm | New stuff is never 100 percent bug free. But at times the only way to fix something is to start from stratch and attempt something new. | Jan 31 19:22 |
| MinceR | when will it ever be fixed if you just forget everything and restart? | Jan 31 19:22 |
| MinceR | scratch that, how do you expect things to be fixed at all with an obviously broken fundamental design? | Jan 31 19:23 |
| cubexyz | they didn't fix the old stuff, I bet they don't fix the new stuff either | Jan 31 19:23 |
| MinceR | (things like 'stuff everything in pid1, running as root' and 'force people to use my binary logging daemon' and 'assume that if a daemon spawns a subprocess, that can only be a component of that daemon and not an independent daemon') | Jan 31 19:23 |
| oiaohm | there had been many attempts to fix the old stuff like with upstart. openrc is the newest attempt to fix with the old stuff. | Jan 31 19:23 |
| MinceR | there are also many non-pid1 service managers | Jan 31 19:24 |
| MinceR | things you people like to pretend don't exist | Jan 31 19:24 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't matter | Jan 31 19:24 |
| cubexyz | as long as you can use what you want | Jan 31 19:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no I don't and most of the non-pid1 service managers had been attempted to code generically so end up failing on Linux | Jan 31 19:25 |
| cubexyz | and not be forced into anything | Jan 31 19:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, being able to use what i want would be nice | Jan 31 19:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you like to forget that systemd is coded that it can in fact run without pid1 | Jan 31 19:25 |
| MinceR | but for some people this seems to be impossible | Jan 31 19:25 |
| oiaohm | systemd started life as a service manager. | Jan 31 19:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, i remember code in it that aborts if it doesn't have the coveted pid1 | Jan 31 19:25 |
| cubexyz | obviously FC1 and sysvinit works well enough for me, as it's been proven to work for 13 years | Jan 31 19:25 |
| MinceR | that must work so well | Jan 31 19:25 |
| cubexyz | that's good enough | Jan 31 19:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the go read the code again. In fact it does not abort if it not pid1. | Jan 31 19:26 |
| oiaohm | So systemd could be run exactly like solaris solution. | Jan 31 19:26 |
| MinceR | slowlaris sucks and it's dying | Jan 31 19:26 |
| cubexyz | IBM mainframes are probably the most reliable | Jan 31 19:27 |
| MinceR | also, at least one version of it runs SMF as pid1, iirc | Jan 31 19:27 |
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| oiaohm | SMF can be run as pid1 or can be run without it. | Jan 31 19:27 |
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| oiaohm | Most of the focus on the PID1 about systemd is fear of change and not wanting to consider the issues that need to be addressed like service management. | Jan 31 19:28 |
| cubexyz | I never understood why udev was necessary either | Jan 31 19:28 |
| MinceR | it's supposedly a more elegant approach to dynamic device nodes than devfs was | Jan 31 19:29 |
| MinceR | iirc devfs did everything in kernel, with udev the kernel only creates device nodes and udev in userspace sets permissions, ownership and triggers actions | Jan 31 19:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's all about fear of change | Jan 31 19:30 |
| MinceR | because i fled from winblows to unix because i was afraid of change, not because i was tired of broken, bloated, inflexible crap where everything was kept secret from me | Jan 31 19:31 |
| MinceR | and where every single secret was used as a weapon against me | Jan 31 19:31 |
| oiaohm | udev/mdev mostly comes about due to supporting hotplugging and having to correctly permission assign permissions. | Jan 31 19:31 |
| MinceR | devfs already supported hotplugging | Jan 31 19:31 |
| cubexyz | by the time I understand udev they'll probably change it again | Jan 31 19:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://lwn.net/Articles/65197/ there was a nice write up why static and devfs was given up on. | Jan 31 19:32 |
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| cubexyz | I guess that's what mdev is, the successor to udev? :) | Jan 31 19:32 |
| MinceR | isn't mdev busybox's lightweight udev replacement? | Jan 31 19:32 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think you're right | Jan 31 19:32 |
| MinceR | there's also a vdev in the works, probably less broken than what redhat is twisting into a broken mess | Jan 31 19:32 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I don't usually unplug my scanner | Jan 31 19:33 |
| oiaohm | mdev is busybox solution. | Jan 31 19:33 |
| cubexyz | so static is fine | Jan 31 19:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: plugin in usb memory keys and the like as well. | Jan 31 19:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: who cares what you do? the only thing that matters is what poettering usually does ;) | Jan 31 19:33 |
| cubexyz | oh, I know no one cares what I do :) | Jan 31 19:33 |
| cubexyz | that's very clear | Jan 31 19:33 |
| MinceR | only his use cases matter; all those GNU/Linux servers and their sysadmins can burn in hell :> | Jan 31 19:33 |
| cubexyz | burning in hell would be using windows 10 I'd say | Jan 31 19:34 |
| MinceR | yes, but redhat and the FSF brings you all the design flaws and maliciousness of windows without the price ;) | Jan 31 19:35 |
| MinceR | also, all the lack of control | Jan 31 19:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: vdev also does not support firmware loading. | Jan 31 19:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so does not have to have firmware validation. | Jan 31 19:36 |
| cubexyz | honestly I don't really like udev | Jan 31 19:36 |
| cubexyz | and I don't continually unplug my devices | Jan 31 19:37 |
| cubexyz | I don't even trust usb drives | Jan 31 19:37 |
| MinceR | and i don't have multiseat desktops | Jan 31 19:37 |
| MinceR | but they don't care what we do or want | Jan 31 19:37 |
| MinceR | they only care about their schemes | Jan 31 19:37 |
| cubexyz | usb drives so defective A LOT | Jan 31 19:37 |
| cubexyz | s/so/go/ | Jan 31 19:37 |
| cubexyz | you must understand that server is different from laptop | Jan 31 19:38 |
| MinceR | i do | Jan 31 19:38 |
| cubexyz | with a laptop yes, you probably would unplug stuff all the time | Jan 31 19:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, redhat people and their fans do not | Jan 31 19:38 |
| MinceR | they probably run windows on their "servers" | Jan 31 19:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: In fact I run Linux in my servers and have run into the recycled PID issue. | Jan 31 19:39 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't think oiaohm would want to run windows | Jan 31 19:39 |
| MinceR | he wants something that's identical to windows, but is gratis :> | Jan 31 19:40 |
| cubexyz | I'll make my own distro eventually | Jan 31 19:40 |
| oiaohm | I want things like BSD and solaris have had for a long time like working service tracking. | Jan 31 19:40 |
| cubexyz | then everyone will say give me systemd and I'll say no :) | Jan 31 19:41 |
| MinceR | and redhat will gladly let you have your own distro, as long as it's a fedora with a custom logo, name and wallpaper | Jan 31 19:41 |
| MinceR | everything else will have to be Standardized(tm) | Jan 31 19:41 |
| oiaohm | redhat does centos and redora as well as paid. | Jan 31 19:41 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 31 19:41 |
| oiaohm | fedora | Jan 31 19:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes I sould avoid that joke about fedora. | Jan 31 19:41 |
| MinceR | rHELL is a supposedly more stabilized fedora (which means nothing, since these people have no clue what stability means) and centos is a gratis rHELL | Jan 31 19:42 |
| oiaohm | fedora has so many bugs it will make you bleed so it deserves the name redora. | Jan 31 19:42 |
| MinceR | so it's 1 distro in 3 clothings | Jan 31 19:42 |
| MinceR | retardora | Jan 31 19:42 |
| cubexyz | Fedora 14 was the end for me | Jan 31 19:42 |
| MinceR | and they all ship the same unreliable broken package manager, which they'll probably assimilate into systemd | Jan 31 19:43 |
| MinceR | so they can shove it down debian users' throats | Jan 31 19:43 |
| cubexyz | which init system does devuan use? | Jan 31 19:43 |
| MinceR | sysvinit by default | Jan 31 19:44 |
| oiaohm | devuan is choose you own from stack of different grades of broken. | Jan 31 19:44 |
| MinceR | there's an openrc package, but i don't know how well supported it is currently | Jan 31 19:44 |
| MinceR | afaik it will be more of a focus in the next release | Jan 31 19:44 |
| cubexyz | how about a distro without udev? :) | Jan 31 19:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I tried devuan with openrc it makes gentoo openrc from 3 years ago look stable. | Jan 31 19:44 |
| MinceR | and there are other packages too, probably | Jan 31 19:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you | Jan 31 19:45 |
| oiaohm | I like openrc | Jan 31 19:45 |
| MinceR | and i tried fedora 15 and it's crap | Jan 31 19:45 |
| oiaohm | design | Jan 31 19:45 |
| MinceR | sure you do | Jan 31 19:45 |
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| MinceR | "i even booted it once!" | Jan 31 19:45 |
| oiaohm | Current one openrc in gentoo is quite nice. | Jan 31 19:45 |
| cubexyz | ah, you can create all devices as static in LFS | Jan 31 19:45 |
| oiaohm | But I don;t like gentoo package management. | Jan 31 19:45 |
| cubexyz | is there a package manager you do like? | Jan 31 19:47 |
| oiaohm | debian is the closest with the packages I use but I have liked nixos package management a lot. | Jan 31 19:47 |
| MinceR | i would have liked nix more if it worked more reliably | Jan 31 19:48 |
| MinceR | but still, i can get a few applications from it | Jan 31 19:48 |
| MinceR | and have them work | Jan 31 19:48 |
| cubexyz | bah... tarballs :) | Jan 31 19:48 |
| cubexyz | only way to learn | Jan 31 19:48 |
| MinceR | tarball is not very specific | Jan 31 19:48 |
| cubexyz | you learn about libraries though, I promise :) | Jan 31 19:49 |
| MinceR | could be source, could be binary you can unpack and use anywhere, could be binary that has to be unpacked in root | Jan 31 19:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so nix package management we both like and both hate it lack of stablity. | Jan 31 19:49 |
| cubexyz | right, OK I meant source tarball | Jan 31 19:49 |
| MinceR | source tarballs can be a lot of pain sometimes | Jan 31 19:49 |
| cubexyz | yeah I did have some problems compiling newsbeuter | Jan 31 19:50 |
| cubexyz | and canto... ugh it was bad | Jan 31 19:50 |
| MinceR | xonotic's portable binary zip is nice, except it was built with a libc that's newer than mine so i had to build from git anyway | Jan 31 19:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my biggest cause of PID recycling is items like postgresql that start a process for a connection have a stack of rapid conections be wrapping through the pid numbers quite quickly. | Jan 31 19:51 |
| MinceR | i'd rather have a service manager handle those than let systemd screw with my systems | Jan 31 19:52 |
| MinceR | (this also has the advantage of letting pid1 being arbitrarily simple) | Jan 31 19:52 |
| oiaohm | I want a working service manager. | Jan 31 19:52 |
| MinceR | tough, you got what's on the market. :> | Jan 31 19:52 |
| oiaohm | That does not gitch in particular random case. | Jan 31 19:53 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I start X or sshd on it's own | Jan 31 19:53 |
| oiaohm | The lowest gitch count service manager on Linux at the moment it a toss up between docker or systemd. | Jan 31 19:53 |
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| MinceR | systemd is not a service manager, it's an OS | Jan 31 20:06 |
| MinceR | and neither is docker, it's a virtualization platform | Jan 31 20:06 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @NatCounterPunch So many good people associated with...' | Jan 31 20:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit Julian Assange father, John Shipton,...' | Jan 31 20:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit You can learn a lot about what...' | Jan 31 20:29 | |
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| cubexyz | I always wondered what rarian-sk-get-cl was | Jan 31 20:33 |
| cubexyz | it's newish... doesn't exist in FC1 | Jan 31 20:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit The US is "home of the brave"...' | Jan 31 20:36 | |
| cubexyz | cl == content list I think | Jan 31 20:37 |
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| cubexyz | ah, LFS to the rescue | Jan 31 20:38 |
| cubexyz | evidently a replacement for scrollkeeper | Jan 31 20:40 |
| cubexyz | "a documentation metadata library" | Jan 31 20:40 |
| cubexyz | scrollkeeper would be a good name for a dungeon crawler game :) | Jan 31 20:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ADHD_Panther @wikileaks I wrongly thought that the #AltReich...' | Jan 31 20:42 | |
| cubexyz | yeah FC1 has scrollkeeper | Jan 31 20:43 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Well, #clinton privately boasted she was a...' | Jan 31 20:52 | |
| cubexyz | we are actually fortunate to get source code | Jan 31 21:02 |
| cubexyz | I can definitely remember the amigados days, the xenix days | Jan 31 21:02 |
| cubexyz | I was only able to see a tiny part of the xenix source | Jan 31 21:02 |
| cubexyz | still haven't seen more than a small part to this day | Jan 31 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826608945871646720 | Jan 31 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Barix Brings Linux Open Source Programmability To | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (livedesignonline.com) https://t.co/P1ObAC15j9 | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| cubexyz | I got the amigaos 3.1 source, haven't really had much time to look at it as yet | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| cubexyz | wonder if ACI is still in business | Jan 31 21:29 |
| cubexyz | probably gone, along with C2 Office gear | Jan 31 21:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 31/1/2017: KDE Plasma 5.9, OPNsense 17.1 | Jan 31 21:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Debian and Ubuntu https://t.co/05WNTojgvC | Jan 31 21:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jan 31 21:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/pNVpBhfBI0 | Jan 31 21:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jan 31 21:34 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Another idiot for useful idiots who can...' | Jan 31 21:58 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CageyBeast1 @wikileaks @POLITICOEurope No, the EU makes Europe...' | Jan 31 22:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Wyatt_J1 Take #brexit for instance. What have we...' | Jan 31 22:22 | |
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| cubexyz | seeing if I can compile kolourpaint for KDE 4.14.3 | Jan 31 23:06 |
| cubexyz | don't like how it selects an area | Jan 31 23:07 |
| cubexyz | what else is there | Jan 31 23:08 |
| cubexyz | kooka was orphaned | Jan 31 23:10 |
| cubexyz | there's scanimage and xscanimage but there'd kind of hard to use | Jan 31 23:14 |
| cubexyz | you know what would be cool.... a news aggregator that works on a keyword | Jan 31 23:20 |
| cubexyz | so you could go: "aggregate slackware" and it would get you all the slackware news | Jan 31 23:21 |
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| cubexyz | haha: | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | "Since there are still a rare few machines without the appropriate hardware, smell-o-vision will have to remain optional. | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | But, the current combined policies at MICROS~1 and Apple of deprecating any and all hardare and software more than six months old should fix that. That will also solve the fear that a system might still be in use after its printer ink or smell-o-vision supplies are used up." | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | oh no, the scofflaws might refill their ink cartridges... can't have that | Feb 01 00:34 |
| cubexyz | ttp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/31/climate-change-data-saving-trump_n_14531820.html | Feb 01 00:52 |
| cubexyz | http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/31/climate-change-data-saving-trump_n_14531820.html | Feb 01 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.ca | Climate Scientists Turn To Canadian Organizations To Save Vulnerable Data From Trump | Feb 01 00:52 | |
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| cubexyz | got to build ntfsprogs for slack... let's hope this works | Feb 01 03:13 |
| cubexyz | wonder why it's not in the repo | Feb 01 03:14 |
| cubexyz | oh wait a sec... ntfsfix is in /usr/sbin/ | Feb 01 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826718022706544642 | Feb 01 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Feb 01 04:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Computerworld | Feb 01 04:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 04:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 04:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Feb 01 04:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 04:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: If you want privacy you need to run Linux https://t.co/klnP08nx5P https://t.co/DmGDy4NDRt | Feb 01 04:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 04:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Tux Machines | Feb 01 04:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version https://t.co/y9eFalSzfE https://t.co/kbOsN00TJJ | Feb 01 04:15 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is not a service manager, it's an OS << That is not true. systemd in 2016 got the means to run without privilege and operate as a service manager without the extras. docker service management lines up to AIX style. | Feb 01 04:17 |
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| XRevan86 | "Deputies of Petersburg call for bringing activists, who are against tranferring Isaac's Cathedral to the Church, under the law on insulting religious feelings" http://newsru.com/religy/01feb2017/isakiyoskorb.html | Feb 01 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Депутаты Петербурга призвали привлечь участников акции против передачи Исаакия РПЦ по статье об оскорблении чувств верующих | Feb 01 05:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.10 Desktop and 5.9 Release | Feb 01 05:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10 Desktop and 5.9 Release | Tux Machines | Feb 01 05:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support | Feb 01 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Creation of LVM RAID https://t.co/gLdEx49IBl | Feb 01 05:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support Creation of LVM RAID | Tux Machines | Feb 01 05:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support Creation of LVM RAID https://t.co/gLdEx49IBl https://t.co/L9552OKHx5 | Feb 01 05:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826737137382875137 | Feb 01 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9 Released, 5.10 Previewed; Steam Machines | Feb 01 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RIP https://t.co/tnlVA8POX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 05:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9 Released, 5.10 Previewed; Steam Machines RIP | Tux Machines | Feb 01 05:21 | |
| cubexyz | man... changed the motherboard on the customer's computer now I can't boot into XP | Feb 01 05:26 |
| cubexyz | quite a mess | Feb 01 05:27 |
| cubexyz | now I have to deal with this reactivation shit | Feb 01 05:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So it did boot? :D | Feb 01 05:29 |
| cubexyz | it did | Feb 01 05:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Already impressive. | Feb 01 05:29 |
| cubexyz | but it says there's a "significant change in hardware" so I have to reactivate | Feb 01 05:29 |
| cubexyz | I'm not even sure if M$ will support XP in 2017 | Feb 01 05:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Call the robot and check. | Feb 01 05:32 |
| XRevan86 | It shouldn't take long. | Feb 01 05:32 |
| cubexyz | I need to backup the data then I'll be changing the motherboard again :-/ | Feb 01 05:32 |
| XRevan86 | It should say something like "Art thou sure this copy of Windows is installed on only one PC?" | Feb 01 05:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: windows activation will trip everytime you change a motherboard. | Feb 01 05:35 |
| cubexyz | maybe safe mode will let me in | Feb 01 05:35 |
| cubexyz | well, the original motherboard is dead | Feb 01 05:36 |
| cubexyz | ha, I'm in | Feb 01 05:36 |
| oiaohm | https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/312295/you-are-prompted-to-activate-windows-xp-or-windows-server-2003-every-time-that-you-start-the-computer <<You might need this sledge hammer. | Feb 01 05:37 |
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| cubexyz | ok, good the data looks alright | Feb 01 05:38 |
| cubexyz | I can just blow it away as long as I get the data first | Feb 01 05:38 |
| cubexyz | damn, the usb drive isn't showing up | Feb 01 05:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that will be normal wrong drivers in windows. | Feb 01 05:41 |
| cubexyz | any way to get the usb hard drive working in safe mode? | Feb 01 05:42 |
| cubexyz | ugh.... maybe I'll try a linux live cd instead... this is getting me nowhere | Feb 01 05:42 |
| oiaohm | If right motherboard drivers and the like are installed usb hard drives will work in XP. | Feb 01 05:42 |
| oiaohm | in safe mode. | Feb 01 05:42 |
| oiaohm | Windows changing motherboards is a art from hell. | Feb 01 05:43 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure the drives aren't there yet | Feb 01 05:43 |
| cubexyz | as everything is different except for the hard drive :-/ | Feb 01 05:43 |
| cubexyz | drivers | Feb 01 05:43 |
| cubexyz | this is taking a hell of a long time :-/ | Feb 01 05:45 |
| oiaohm | You most likely have the wrong ide drivers as well. | Feb 01 05:46 |
| cubexyz | probably | Feb 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Fairly much everything else important. | Feb 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | With Linux we get so use to being able to change motherboards and have the majority work. | Feb 01 05:46 |
| cubexyz | yeah but as much as I'd love to blow XP away I have to get the data first | Feb 01 05:46 |
| oiaohm | If it only the data ntfs3g in Linux can be less painful. | Feb 01 05:47 |
| cubexyz | no backups since 2012 | Feb 01 05:48 |
| cubexyz | opensuse 12.1 didn't work... so switching to fedora 11 | Feb 01 05:49 |
| oiaohm | In fact with that statement I would be moving to Linux and ntfs drivers. Windows with incorrect ide drivers can do bad things. | Feb 01 05:49 |
| cubexyz | it didn't see the external drive | Feb 01 05:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826737156315975680 | Feb 01 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dedicated engineering team in South Africa deploys open | Feb 01 05:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source tools, save lives https://t.co/qMe3teUuI2 | Feb 01 05:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dedicated engineering team in South Africa deploys open source tools, save lives | Tux Machines | Feb 01 05:55 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, I'm screwed | Feb 01 06:07 |
| cubexyz | external usb drive doesn't show up | Feb 01 06:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I just had a horible idea you have not done my most stupid error with USB ports attempting to use the USB ports in the front of case after change a motherboard I had not plugged in yet. | Feb 01 06:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/7kZM1nT8sj | Feb 01 06:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 01 06:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/Y862Fh45QZ | Feb 01 06:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 06:44 | |
| cubexyz | no, nothing that stupid :) | Feb 01 06:45 |
| cubexyz | fedora 11 live cd didn't find the external usb drive, but fedora 16 live cd did | Feb 01 06:45 |
| cubexyz | live and learn | Feb 01 06:46 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Undermining his party might not exactly work...' | Feb 01 06:49 | |
| cubexyz | doesn't mount it automatically though | Feb 01 06:56 |
| cubexyz | had to dig through dmesg to find it... then had a look in /dev | Feb 01 06:56 |
| cubexyz | why does it mount as fuseblk? | Feb 01 06:59 |
| cubexyz | dev names are a bit unusual as well | Feb 01 07:01 |
| cubexyz | /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb5 | Feb 01 07:01 |
| cubexyz | was up all night :-/ | Feb 01 07:02 |
| cubexyz | my live cds are getting a bit long in the tooth... time to get something a bit more modern | Feb 01 07:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GeckoLinux Plasma: for Die Hard OpenSuSE fans | Feb 01 09:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 5 of the Best Ebook Readers for Linux Users | Feb 01 09:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Performance made easy with Linux containers | Feb 01 09:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released with New | Feb 01 09:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | User-Friendly & Flexible UI Concept | Feb 01 09:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/58AuIqV7Fd | Feb 01 10:03 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @EDVAnews @Snowden @KimDotcom @YouTube None of these...' | Feb 01 10:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@qwerty91231 @wikileaks I studied his history and this...' | Feb 01 10:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@the_lion_rises @wikileaks What Jeff Sessions's Role in Prosecuting...' | Feb 01 10:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/826824638252580865 | Feb 01 11:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/58AuIqV7Fd | Feb 01 11:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826830117208997890 | Feb 01 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Former 'I'm a Mac' actor Justin Long is now shilling for | Feb 01 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | an Android phone https://t.co/oRG5hy7YtN (mashable.com) | Feb 01 11:42 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty Seems like no English parties other...' | Feb 01 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826838263965085697 | Feb 01 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ""MythTV 0.28 was released nearly one year ago while | Feb 01 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today we have the first point release " | Feb 01 12:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826841057228845057 | Feb 01 12:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/EopbqdwPKJ | Feb 01 12:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826841059103682560 | Feb 01 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/Q3JKA2eXWF | Feb 01 12:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Feb 01 12:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@TheGreenParty @UKLabour @CarolineLucas What good is Labour if...' | Feb 01 12:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826847703019700225 | Feb 01 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | You Can Now Install Snap Apps on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Feb 01 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ar182Nkj0I (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Feb 01 12:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | You Can Now Install Snap Apps on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 01 12:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826848245775212544 | Feb 01 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I’ve Been | Feb 01 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dreaming Of https://t.co/Xs29Zi7ygx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Feb 01 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 01 14:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I've Been Dreaming Of - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 01 14:01 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: no fisting... | Feb 01 16:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 01 16:38 |
| schestowitz | if it said "behind every guy", it would be boxing maybe | Feb 01 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826909080438636555 | Feb 01 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bigger, better LibreOffice 5.3 released for the cloud | Feb 01 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YxQ1XpbYDV (www.zdnet.com) | Feb 01 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WWKkFqQAPI (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Feb 01 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bigger, better LibreOffice 5.3 released for the cloud | ZDNet | Feb 01 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 01 16:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | LibreOffice 5.3 Released, Called 'Most Feature-Rich Release' Ever - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 01 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826909939759185921 | Feb 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 13.0.4 stable released, time to update to get the | Feb 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | latest fixes https://t.co/7OEXHZdsa2 | Feb 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/ZzG4wBaYrG | Feb 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 01 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 13.0.4 stable released, time to update to get the latest fixes | GamingOnLinux | Feb 01 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 01 16:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 13.0.4 Released While Waiting For Mesa 17.0 - Phoronix | Feb 01 16:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826913199576514564 | Feb 01 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest Ubuntu Update Includes OpenSSL Fixes | Feb 01 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fOnrPI2YE9 (threatpost.com) | Feb 01 17:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Update Includes OpenSSL Fixes | Threatpost | The first stop for security news | Feb 01 17:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826926741797036032 | Feb 01 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Olimex spins open source Allwinner A64 based laptop kit | Feb 01 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mkoxEkX9Pj (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 17:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Olimex spins open source Allwinner A64 based laptop kit | Tux Machines | Feb 01 17:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826926745152430080 | Feb 01 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged SODIMM module runs Linux on i.MX6UL | Feb 01 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged SODIMM module runs Linux on i.MX6UL | Tux Machines | Feb 01 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826926770947371008 | Feb 01 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of OpenSUSE Leap 42 | Feb 01 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Everyday Linux User Review Of OpenSUSE Leap 42 | Tux Machines | Feb 01 17:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: An Everyday Linux User Review Of OpenSUSE Leap 42 https://t.co/R4d7vITucQ https://t.co/VNo0Ew945H | Feb 01 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826926775825412096 | Feb 01 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Feb 01 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Tux Machines | Feb 01 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826926778899845120 | Feb 01 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Attack on Free Software (Kodi) With Copyrigth Pretext | Feb 01 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gnSVxdp0kH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 17:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Attack on Free Software (Kodi) With Copyrigth Pretext | Tux Machines | Feb 01 17:55 | |
| MinceR | https://magyarchan.net/boards/b/image/1485/95/14859587380459.webm | Feb 01 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826926789503037440 | Feb 01 18:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 | Feb 01 18:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 https://t.co/DqSslaR51r https://t.co/zB1WMYGiIc | Feb 01 18:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826929114833616897 | Feb 01 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged SODIMM module runs Linux on i.MX6UL | Feb 01 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2Byfg87lNa (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 01 18:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of OpenSUSE Leap 42 | Feb 01 18:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged SODIMM module runs Linux on i.MX6UL | Feb 01 18:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | An Everyday Linux User Review Of OpenSUSE Leap 42 « Everyday Linux User | Feb 01 18:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826929470720397312 | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Olimex spins open source #Allwinner A64 based laptop kit | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZyRbZ0zPMd (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 01 18:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Olimex spins open source Allwinner A64 based laptop kit | Feb 01 18:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826929646449082368 | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Feb 01 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/12C0BzUITT (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 01 18:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Feb 01 18:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826929871905505282 | Feb 01 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 | Feb 01 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PaHMDo3Ati (www.tizenexperts.com) | Feb 01 18:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 - Tizen Experts | Feb 01 18:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826930197962301440 | Feb 01 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive | Feb 01 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Director https://t.co/UygKz3gtgi (www.gnome.org) | Feb 01 18:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with | Feb 01 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/nYCSjDG1kl | Feb 01 18:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 502 @ https://www.gnome.org/news/2017/02/neil-mcgovern-executive-director/ ) | Feb 01 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now | Feb 01 18:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826930784015613954 | Feb 01 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24, LDC 1.1 & Minimal Container Image Proposed | Feb 01 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Fedora 26 https://t.co/WyoYdCAGy5 (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 01 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME 3.24, LDC 1.1 & Minimal Container Image Proposed For Fedora 26 - Phoronix | Feb 01 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826931350125047809 | Feb 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Linux More Efficient Than Windows When it Comes to RAM | Feb 01 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Consumption? https://t.co/T4IFQqOCyN (news.tecmint.com) | Feb 01 18:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tecmint.com | Is Linux More Efficient Than Windows When it Comes to RAM Consumption? | Feb 01 18:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935306142167041 | Feb 01 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive | Feb 01 18:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Director https://t.co/vqnAnh5miY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 18:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive Director | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive Director https://t.co/vqnAnh5miY https://t.co/XKd6itMb8Z | Feb 01 18:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935312064450560 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/BZrl7ojYKH | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/vmjhbA4s4F | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/BZrl7ojYKH https://t.co/vmjhbA4s4F | Feb 01 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935314190983168 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/pnM5RH2OUr | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Desktop | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935315973566464 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/gvaT5HnIQq | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935317651296256 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux https://t.co/G0NpasQTQW | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935319685582849 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack News https://t.co/it16U5O0dr | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935321292001280 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/1ohW4jAE1v | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935322864783361 | Feb 01 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/uOIUNJNZkK | Feb 01 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:29 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: funny | Feb 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | but potentially offensive | Feb 01 18:34 |
| MinceR | best kind of funny | Feb 01 18:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935324441923584 | Feb 01 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS From Google https://t.co/AJtzO4Cwq4 | Feb 01 18:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS From Google | Tux Machines | Feb 01 18:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MashiRafael Ecuador has a very clever President,...' | Feb 01 18:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MotherJones The US prefers to work through...' | Feb 01 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer @wikileaks @MotherJones A lot of news networks...' | Feb 01 18:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer Mother Jones spent a LOT of...' | Feb 01 18:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer Mother Jones stained their reputation and...' | Feb 01 18:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826941998024241152 | Feb 01 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 | Feb 01 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Iqj6XJrSbY (piboards.com) | Feb 01 18:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-piboards.com | Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 | Pi Boards | Feb 01 18:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO...' | Feb 01 18:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO...' | Feb 01 19:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 https://t.co/Iqj6XJrSbY' | Feb 01 19:09 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/mZ6nV | Feb 01 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is why Adidas pants have vertical stripes and the sneakers' stripes have an angle. - Album on Imgur | Feb 01 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826945551820263424 | Feb 01 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "CloudLinux's Mykola Naugolnyi announced today that | Feb 01 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support for the CloudLinux 5 operating system series is | Feb 01 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ending" https://t.co/ARlU0eyWsp (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 01 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 | Feb 01 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826951656977752064 | Feb 01 19:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/S57WTe53PH | Feb 01 19:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/FOSS Events | Tux Machines | Feb 01 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826951668868603904 | Feb 01 19:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life | Feb 01 19:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 31, 2017 https://t.co/7NeeoKLYcC | Feb 01 19:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 | Tux Machines | Feb 01 19:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 https://t.co/7NeeoKLYcC https://t.co/n3eefYLqvc | Feb 01 19:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@JesselynRadack 'Democrats' have no fire. A growingly defunct...' | Feb 01 20:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826960212909125635 | Feb 01 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/KTub6pxcWL | Feb 01 20:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 01 20:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968389839056896 | Feb 01 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/6yzBfj0kRQ | Feb 01 20:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 01 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968392137469952 | Feb 01 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/SYLG4bxtDP | Feb 01 20:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 01 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968393806811136 | Feb 01 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/6e1V6FyWU1 | Feb 01 20:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Feb 01 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968395442593792 | Feb 01 20:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/ELOeKv7Zgy | Feb 01 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 01 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End...' | Feb 01 20:46 | |
| cubexyz | well Microsoft sucks.. I wish I didn't have to deal with this XP box | Feb 01 21:05 |
| cubexyz | but a job's a job | Feb 01 21:05 |
| cubexyz | had some partition problems with the 2nd paritition on the HD | Feb 01 21:06 |
| cubexyz | testdisk seems to have fixed it though | Feb 01 21:08 |
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| cubexyz | not sure what the best way is to backup all data... hmmm | Feb 01 23:42 |
| cubexyz | there does seem to be some amount of interest in my v5 & v6 work | Feb 01 23:48 |
| cubexyz | v6 got downloaded 100 times | Feb 01 23:48 |
| cubexyz | can't work on v5 now though... too busy | Feb 01 23:49 |
| cubexyz | http://amultiverse.com/comic/2015/04/29/doomed-to-repeat/ | Feb 02 00:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827057846395236352 | Feb 02 02:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released | Feb 02 02:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vjNj4i0xm9 (techrights.org) | Feb 02 02:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released | Techrights | Feb 02 02:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released https://t.co/vjNj4i0xm9' | Feb 02 02:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827062402235715584 | Feb 02 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is bringing an Android tablet to Mobile World | Feb 02 02:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Congress https://t.co/3Dp6HgJZZr (arstechnica.com) | Feb 02 02:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsung is bringing an Android tablet to Mobile World Congress | Ars Technica | Feb 02 02:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827063195907022848 | Feb 02 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Popular Android manufacturer OnePlus caught cheating in | Feb 02 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | benchmark tests | Feb 02 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mRWAuZOyjB (bgr.com) | Feb 02 03:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Popular Android manufacturer OnePlus caught cheating in benchmark tests – BGR | Feb 02 03:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827067794831204352 | Feb 02 04:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/M2WdWvnoLW | Feb 02 04:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 04:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827084476362665984 | Feb 02 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Pay Mini to launch for Android | Feb 02 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PdyBjhdkuI (www.zdnet.com) | Feb 02 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JDaPgGDvIh (www.reuters.com) | Feb 02 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Pay Mini to launch for Android | ZDNet | Feb 02 04:24 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Electronics to launch web payments service for Android phones in South Korea | Reuters | Feb 02 04:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085276438724610 | Feb 02 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/MQE8pct9mO | Feb 02 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 04:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Feb 02 04:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085488293027840 | Feb 02 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses | Feb 02 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rIwoV9BUQg (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 04:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 04:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses...' | Feb 02 04:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085817768206336 | Feb 02 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Feb 02 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vspnjWCQex (fossforce.com) | Feb 02 04:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | FOSS Force | Feb 02 04:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827086698865688577 | Feb 02 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live | Feb 02 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Your PC or Laptop https://t.co/gAanaQWtxt | Feb 02 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop | Feb 02 04:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827087246754996226 | Feb 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Krita 3.1.2 released! https://t.co/L7rHarR02p (krita.org) | Feb 02 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 02 04:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Krita 3.1.2 released! | Krita | Feb 02 04:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827087427709833216 | Feb 02 04:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings | Feb 02 04:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subtraction of Black Levels | Feb 02 04:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/djFdj9Rk3S (linux.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 04:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings Subtraction of Black Levels - Softpedia Linux | Feb 02 04:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827088433659133952 | Feb 02 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release | Feb 02 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nUWX5bUHc3 (lists.debian.org) | Feb 02 04:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release | Feb 02 04:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093092696154113 | Feb 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR | Feb 02 04:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses | Feb 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 04:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Tux Machines | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack https://t.co/wd04HsrKaq https://t.co/hRHIelEXrP | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093102313607168 | Feb 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Feb 02 04:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Tux Machines | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source Eye for the Android Guy https://t.co/0xs6F79LaU https://t.co/6504nLsLZH | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093107783069700 | Feb 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour | Feb 02 04:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KnU87pQv8j (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 02 04:56 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses...' | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour | Tux Machines | Feb 02 04:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour https://t.co/KnU87pQv8j https://t.co/OyyL5lOSlY | Feb 02 04:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827100987773030402 | Feb 02 05:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux distros https://t.co/ma5iJKBxya | Feb 02 05:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Best Linux distros | IT PRO | Feb 02 05:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827101780051779584 | Feb 02 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux distros https://t.co/f5tr2hkfUU | Feb 02 06:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827109554278236160 | Feb 02 06:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Lego Mindstorms EV3 robots can be controlled with an | Feb 02 06:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android app" https://t.co/SJ4Ibf0LnU (www.linux.com) | Feb 02 06:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arrive On Time With NTP -- Part 3: Secure Setup | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 02 06:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Trump's Supreme Court pick who used famous WikiLeaks...' | Feb 02 06:11 | |
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| MinceR | http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/317355-travel-ban-sways-researchers-not-to-work-with-law-enforcement-cancel | Feb 02 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cybersecurity researchers halt work with law enforcement, cancel conferences in travel ban's wake | TheHill | Feb 02 06:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 06:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/OHrJKyOuAc | Feb 02 06:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Feb 02 06:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/C7T5Sc3UVY | Feb 02 06:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 06:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Given that @milo has historically justified violence...' | Feb 02 06:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DeplorableSheep @wikileaks @milo There is, and he incited...' | Feb 02 06:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@EaglesJesse @wikileaks His audience would use his words...' | Feb 02 06:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DevyDegaimer I don't think you're even remotely aware...' | Feb 02 06:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DevyDegaimer I don't think you're even remotely...' | Feb 02 07:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Right now there is something similar happening...' | Feb 02 07:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@spinnumb @DeplorableSheep @wikileaks Milo is a hate preacher....' | Feb 02 07:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty Doing the labour for Tories. On...' | Feb 02 07:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty @BBCNews It will accelerate with #goldenDawnald...' | Feb 02 07:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/rodrigovlds/status/827137683340328961 | Feb 02 07:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I’ve Been | Feb 02 07:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @rodrigovlds Dreaming Of https://t.co/Xs29Zi7ygx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Feb 02 07:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I've Been Dreaming Of - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 02 07:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rodrigovlds favourited 'Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher...' | Feb 02 07:58 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/otgySvm.jpg | Feb 02 08:02 |
| MinceR | https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SyaEKSgM62rKw/giphy.gif | Feb 02 08:09 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @callblockapp favourited 'Hardened Tor Browser 7.0 Enters Development, Uses Tor...' | Feb 02 09:06 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out,...' | Feb 02 09:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings Subtraction...' | Feb 02 09:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out,...' | Feb 02 09:07 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: WTF? | Feb 02 09:57 |
| schestowitz | They killed a puppy? | Feb 02 09:57 |
| schestowitz | And then uploaded this? | Feb 02 09:57 |
| schestowitz | and if so, why even promote this crap? | Feb 02 09:58 |
| schestowitz | Wife saw it, very upset about that | Feb 02 09:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera | Feb 02 10:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live | Feb 02 10:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop https://t.co/q4Mp3IWzay https://t.co/oFZR6h57aN | Feb 02 10:02 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: this isn't 4chan, don't put s** like that in IRC ever again | Feb 02 10:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | DiRT Rally Crashes On To Linux In March | Feb 02 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | DiRT Rally Crashes On To Linux In March - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 02 10:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game creation kit 'Construct 3' has a first preview, | Feb 02 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | including shots of it on Linux https://t.co/8RdVFyUStA | Feb 02 10:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Game creation kit 'Construct 3' has a first preview, including shots of it on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Feb 02 10:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera | Feb 02 10:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Feb 02 10:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calculate-linux.org | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released - Planet Calculate | Feb 02 10:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Feb 02 10:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Feb 02 10:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux https://t.co/REpNsKR09Y | Feb 02 10:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch Linux: The Simple Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 02 10:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/n8RGGrUgdU' | Feb 02 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on | Feb 02 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AWS Marketplace, Azure https://t.co/GOnfjss3uR | Feb 02 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on AWS Marketplace, Azure | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on AWS Marketplace, Azure https://t.co/GOnfjss3uR https://t.co/Yb22loh9LV | Feb 02 10:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Feb 02 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178310769602560 | Feb 02 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From Food to Sofas: How Open Source is Changing the World | Feb 02 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Beyond Software https://t.co/xmX55NK6HG | Feb 02 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | From Food to Sofas: How Open Source is Changing the World Beyond Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux https://t.co/r4zF9qQb1X | Feb 02 10:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178347880861696 | Feb 02 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Feb 02 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/aAVPQcCW0z | Feb 02 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 02 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178556371378176 | Feb 02 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Big Changes, Improvements Of Mesa 17.0 | Feb 02 10:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Big Changes, Improvements Of Mesa 17.0 - Phoronix | Feb 02 10:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Automating Software Testing on Linux SBCs | Feb 02 10:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/827180942368309248 | Feb 02 10:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/OteKwM94CO | Feb 02 10:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March | Feb 02 11:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2017 https://t.co/ceZeepqfr9 (www.gamasutra.com) ... | Feb 02 11:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March 2017 | Feb 02 11:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March 2017 http... | Feb 02 11:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827197100979081218 | Feb 02 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux | Feb 02 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | laptop that can https://t.co/p7kAM4QCjy (www.pcworld.com) | Feb 02 11:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can | PCWorld | Feb 02 11:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827204582627430400 | Feb 02 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux | Feb 02 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | laptop that can https://t.co/LR8WAZ6IaA | Feb 02 12:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can | Tux Machines | Feb 02 12:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can https://t.co/LR8WAZ6IaA https://t.co/KoWtekWU2K | Feb 02 12:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/Tnjo3qeWTk | Feb 02 12:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More Android Leftovers https://t.co/U3sLM4ruSk | Feb 02 12:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released | Feb 02 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released | Techrights | Feb 02 12:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/cWyLWx73wZ | Feb 02 12:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 02 12:52 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 13:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/827217981063192576 | Feb 02 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR | Feb 02 13:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 13:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 13:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827230501026934784 | Feb 02 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.7 https://t.co/0hNWbBKPqB (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 02 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.7 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 14:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827230506022379520 | Feb 02 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Feb 02 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6wSAVyKi1K (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 02 14:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Tux Machines | Feb 02 14:30 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: orban? | Feb 02 14:41 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 02 14:41 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks More of the same. #bush started the...' | Feb 02 15:03 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.the-postillon.com/2017/01/border-wall-ikea.html | Feb 02 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-postillon.com | The Postillon: “Börder Wåll”: IKEA offers Trump an affordable solution | Feb 02 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | seen it | Feb 02 15:23 |
| MinceR | https://img.ifcdn.com/images/65debd2c25f84b4e54b17633bc5ce7087cd1580fb9825085dd9d750a1920485e_1.gif | Feb 02 15:41 |
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| MinceR | http://pvponline.com/comic/2017-01-27 | Feb 02 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pvponline.com | PVP - 2017-01-27 | Feb 02 16:44 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.bettershelter.org/product/ this is also ikea product. Really border wall for around camps of bettershelter you would call a do you want fries with that. | Feb 02 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bettershelter.org | Product : Better Shelter | Feb 02 16:50 | |
| MinceR | the one i linked was satire, though | Feb 02 16:59 |
| MinceR | (also, didn't account for assembly work and possibly delivery costs -- but then again, Agent Orange always said _he_ was going to build a wall, so he can do all that himself) | Feb 02 17:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it might be satire but one of ikea products are rapid deploy security walls. Some people who make satire fail to check what some companies in fact really make. | Feb 02 17:17 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DErurte4CE | Feb 02 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION" — A Bad Lip Reading - YouTube | Feb 02 17:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827289767146516480 | Feb 02 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security | Feb 02 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Tools https://t.co/IQR13bGYAg | Feb 02 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/EkxFUBK9CW | Feb 02 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security Updates, New Tools | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security Updates, New Tools https://t.co/IQR13bGYAg https://t.co/EkxFUBK9CW | Feb 02 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827298062477307905 | Feb 02 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 02 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/5K4GfcizVy | Feb 02 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/5K4GfcizVy https://t.co/tXinNI9v4n | Feb 02 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827298069108584448 | Feb 02 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon | Feb 02 18:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/GRPinw6dvI | Feb 02 18:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/GRPinw6dvI https://t.co/5x0EACN6Uw | Feb 02 18:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with...' | Feb 02 18:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314681387708416 | Feb 02 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Feb 02 19:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 https://t.co/27RWhhzHLY https://t.co/waJga82KLP | Feb 02 19:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314689298178048 | Feb 02 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for | Feb 02 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/e9SzkRYMMN | Feb 02 19:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/e9SzkRYMMN https://t.co/EYgHL26mxd | Feb 02 19:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314696986374144 | Feb 02 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 02 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol | Feb 02 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 02 19:38 | |
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| cubexyz | I really hope this is the last time I have to service this XP box | Feb 03 01:04 |
| cubexyz | going to try to get them to go for a chromebox | Feb 03 01:05 |
| cubexyz | they are still using some ancient corel draw version... 7 I think | Feb 03 01:06 |
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| cubexyz | just reading my notes here... I installed FC1 on May 12th, 2004 | Feb 03 01:15 |
| cubexyz | try to get them on chromebox or ummm, Mint 18.1 or something | Feb 03 01:15 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/qjbtj | Feb 03 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Politics aside, this is just funny - Album on Imgur | Feb 03 03:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827430621173653504 | Feb 03 03:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why new Chromebooks make Android tablets completely | Feb 03 03:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | irrelevant https://t.co/qeJGBTGmwm (www.techradar.com) | Feb 03 03:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why new Chromebooks make Android tablets completely irrelevant | TechRadar | Feb 03 03:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How I Use Android: Material Podcast host and UX designer | Feb 03 03:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Yasmine Evjen https://t.co/jMsggPCIwG | Feb 03 03:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Feb 03 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Use Android: Material Podcast host and UX designer Yasmine Evjen | Computerworld | Feb 03 03:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers | Feb 03 03:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | won’t get paid https://t.co/XKOIuy9uH3 (arstechnica.com) | Feb 03 03:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid | Ars Technica | Feb 03 03:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better | Feb 03 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better | Feb 03 03:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers | Feb 03 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid | Tux Machines | Feb 03 03:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, | Feb 03 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS, and Windows https://t.co/T2uh4KYaku | Feb 03 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, macOS, and Windows | Tux Machines | Feb 03 03:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Budget GNU/Linux Laptops https://t.co/tYo1wcdDzw | Feb 03 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budget GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux Machines | Feb 03 03:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 03:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/oqMUWaETVT | Feb 03 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 | Tux Machines | Feb 03 03:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | First Tails beta release based on Stretch | Feb 03 03:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.debian.org | intrigeri's blog/posts/First Tails beta release based on Stretch | Feb 03 03:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC | Feb 03 03:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC - CNET | Feb 03 03:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora speakers at FOSDEM 2017 https://t.co/3yJ5BAhPYT | Feb 03 04:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Find Fedora at FOSDEM 2017! - Fedora Magazine | Feb 03 04:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827441983513882624 | Feb 03 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Today Plasma 5.9.0 became available in KDE neon User | Feb 03 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition." https://t.co/8hjM3FS2oi" | Feb 03 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apachelog.wordpress.com | How to Global Menu in Plasma 5.9 | やった | Feb 03 04:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC | Feb 03 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC | Tux Machines | Feb 03 04:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827446801242296320 | Feb 03 04:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: DevConf 2017, FOSDEM 2017, and FOSS Wave | Feb 03 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: DevConf 2017, FOSDEM 2017, and FOSS Wave | Tux Machines | Feb 03 04:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/GwTaNk1cFu | Feb 03 04:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 03 04:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source ECOMP https://t.co/JUGviSN9oz | Feb 03 04:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.7 https://t.co/3qh9ATdzgG (lwn.net) 4.4.46 | Feb 03 05:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Feb 03 05:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security | Feb 03 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Tools https://t.co/ZLrHnFezFU | Feb 03 05:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Tails 2.10 Linux Delivers Updated Security and Privacy Tools | Feb 03 05:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827457745393741825 | Feb 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/ow0QWR6zXV | Feb 03 05:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Feb 03 05:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827457942156881920 | Feb 03 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon | Feb 03 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/f4Sz68zZs8 | Feb 03 05:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great | Feb 03 05:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458185309126657 | Feb 03 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Feb 03 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rz60l22iZv (arstechnica.com) | Feb 03 05:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Mozilla gives up on last vestiges of Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Ars Technica | Feb 03 05:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458368793108480 | Feb 03 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for | Feb 03 05:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/M3CjbvASr6 | Feb 03 05:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Feb 03 05:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458537395777537 | Feb 03 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 05:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/i9Cp03jjYq | Feb 03 05:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Feb 03 05:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458662797029376 | Feb 03 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, | Feb 03 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS, and Windows https://t.co/xjR7nDrN3E | Feb 03 05:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, macOS, and Windows | Feb 03 05:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458868682833920 | Feb 03 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/ebx44WV05v | Feb 03 05:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 | Feb 03 05:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827459897679810560 | Feb 03 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Automated Testing Laboratory for Embedded Linux | Feb 03 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distributions | Feb 03 05:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automated Testing Laboratory for Embedded Linux Distributions | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 03 05:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827460761979076608 | Feb 03 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cossacks 3 for Linux finally has a release date and it's | Feb 03 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | close https://t.co/ywi7Lx8CY3 (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 05:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cossacks 3 for Linux finally has a release date and it's close | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 05:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827463863356493824 | Feb 03 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users | Feb 03 05:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8COVdKirga (www.maketecheasier.com) | Feb 03 05:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users - Make Tech Easier | Feb 03 05:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827467566692044801 | Feb 03 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT | Feb 03 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) Linux Kernel 4.9.7 also | Feb 03 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lBvqhVyEIv (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 03 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS Is Yet Another Small Patch, Updates InfiniBand Drivers | Feb 03 05:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.9.7 Brings Updates to the Intel i915 and InfiniBand Drivers, More | Feb 03 05:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827468549375590400 | Feb 03 05:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA 375.27.08 Vulkan Driver Released | Feb 03 05:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 375.27.08 Vulkan Driver Released - Phoronix | Feb 03 05:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@TheGreenParty What one cannot ignore is that...' | Feb 03 06:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/7Cfv6nOhq4 | Feb 03 06:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Feb 03 06:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/cOj74u3zvg | Feb 03 06:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Feb 03 06:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471846496800768 | Feb 03 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/KzvylMh09f | Feb 03 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 03 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471853182595072 | Feb 03 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Distros for Mac Users and Everyone Else | Feb 03 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Distros for Mac Users and Everyone Else | Tux Machines | Feb 03 06:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471857720758272 | Feb 03 06:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development News: Rust 1.15, Seccomp, and High Priority | Feb 03 06:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Projects List https://t.co/7ZdfO3Hb3R | Feb 03 06:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Rust 1.15, Seccomp, and High Priority Projects List | Tux Machines | Feb 03 06:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827472255022153729 | Feb 03 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kontron launches Linux-friendly Kaby Lake COMs | Feb 03 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pPogPztx5H (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 03 06:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Kontron launches Linux-friendly Kaby Lake COMs | Feb 03 06:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty Unless this is reformed, #brexit zealots...' | Feb 03 06:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827482901319184384 | Feb 03 07:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [Older] Best Linux Distributions To Try In 2017 | Feb 03 07:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ocKz7j9pcE (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Feb 03 07:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Linux Distributions To Try In 2017 - LinuxAndUbuntu | Feb 03 07:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489582748884994 | Feb 03 07:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/wNQngFjZ2v | Feb 03 07:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 07:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489584892121089 | Feb 03 07:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distributions Again https://t.co/t6r3ArNNlV | Feb 03 07:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489586725007360 | Feb 03 07:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Graphics https://t.co/aSJEyXN0bI | Feb 03 07:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distributions Again | Tux Machines | Feb 03 07:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Feb 03 07:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489588822171648 | Feb 03 07:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian and Ubuntu https://t.co/ysAQpIVeCn | Feb 03 07:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Feb 03 07:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RaminNasibov favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT Linux Kernel 4.9.7...' | Feb 03 07:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS Is Yet Another Small Patch, Updates InfiniBand Drivers | Feb 03 07:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827494553301164034 | Feb 03 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Olimex Teres I is an open source, DIY laptop kit for $240 | Feb 03 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ef8vRYEzuU (liliputing.com) "Linux-based | Feb 03 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software" https://t.co/CCkAdpkmFZ (www.bit-tech.net) | Feb 03 07:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olimex Teres I is an open source, DIY laptop kit for $240 - Liliputing | Feb 03 07:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olimex announces Teres 1 open hardware laptop | bit-tech.net | Feb 03 07:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827497892080345088 | Feb 03 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/3wNnJGYOE0 | Feb 03 07:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 03 07:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for...' | Feb 03 08:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT Linux Kernel 4.9.7...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux,...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 08:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux,...' | Feb 03 08:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks This was pointed out some days ago...' | Feb 03 09:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @renato_de_OZ favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10...' | Feb 03 09:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/renato_de_OZ/status/827528610290466824 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @renato_de_OZ Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 10:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 10:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @telesurenglish Guess who is holding the longer...' | Feb 03 10:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827538715669098496 | Feb 03 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in #Techrights https://t.co/4Hy2YoEc1a | Feb 03 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 03 10:36 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aDigkEv.png | Feb 03 10:47 |
| MinceR | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/windows-drm-files-used-to-decloak-tor-browser-users/ | Feb 03 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows DRM Files Used to Decloak Tor Browser Users | Feb 03 10:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in #Techrights https://t.co/4Hy2YoEc1a' | Feb 03 10:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827544381880164352 | Feb 03 10:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lifeless Planet Premier Edition, a third-person | Feb 03 10:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | action-adventure is now available for Linux | Feb 03 10:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zpGRbxNNOD (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 10:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lifeless Planet Premier Edition, a third-person action-adventure is now available for Linux | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 10:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827545013160648704 | Feb 03 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Double Fine confirm that Full Throttle Remastered will | Feb 03 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | see a Linux version after the Windows release | Feb 03 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/c3JjJfONzu (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 10:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Double Fine confirm that Full Throttle Remastered will see a Linux version after the Windows release | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 10:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@GreenKeithMEP @TheGreenParty When Conservatives speak of "green" they...' | Feb 03 11:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Highlights of YaST development sprint 30 | Feb 03 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BemJ5RN5Xb (lizards.opensuse.org) | Feb 03 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lizards.opensuse.org | openSUSE Lizards | Feb 03 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827548725073604611 | Feb 03 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa Is Now Lighter By 58,000+ Lines Of Code | Feb 03 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YPeZC4w0ZN (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 03 11:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa Is Now Lighter By 58,000+ Lines Of Code - Phoronix | Feb 03 11:08 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/6Wdph http://i.imgur.com/zydK2nV.jpg | Feb 03 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Questionable WikiHow picture dump - Album on Imgur | Feb 03 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827549261793468416 | Feb 03 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Snapcraft 2.26 Released For Ubuntu Snappy Packages | Feb 03 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hUdaSMRg1Z (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 03 11:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Snapcraft 2.26 Released For Ubuntu Snappy Packages - Phoronix | Feb 03 11:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827557901346541568 | Feb 03 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/6WmxpWgGkF | Feb 03 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/6WmxpWgGkF' | Feb 03 12:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827566464202846211 | Feb 03 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/zGfyJzlvAI | Feb 03 12:16 |
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| cubexyz | going to give lsx one more look | Feb 03 13:42 |
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| cubexyz | arrgh, no cat... I keep forgetting | Feb 03 13:51 |
| cubexyz | damn you lsx | Feb 03 13:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/oqMUWaETVT | Feb 03 13:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 13:59 | |
| cubexyz | it's rough going... no one seems to have any notes on it | Feb 03 14:06 |
| cubexyz | yuck... there's minimal but then there's too minimal | Feb 03 14:15 |
| cubexyz | even amigados without a hard drive was painful, and the floppy could hold 880K | Feb 03 14:16 |
| cubexyz | not 256K | Feb 03 14:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 03 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/ow0QWR6zXV | Feb 03 14:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Feb 03 14:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 03 14:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Feb 03 14:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 Nuclear Detonations that went WRONG | Top 5 Countdown - YouTube | Feb 03 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | idiots | Feb 03 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Like Trump | Feb 03 14:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek | Feb 03 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Helio P20 processor https://t.co/0G2JvTGCaQ | Feb 03 15:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor | Tux Machines | Feb 03 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor https://t.co/0G2JvTGCaQ https://t.co/JNzLGpUsA1 | Feb 03 15:19 | |
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| schestowitz | [18:51] <cubexyz> arrgh, no cat... I keep forgetting | Feb 03 16:20 |
| schestowitz | The command of the mammalian parasite? ;-) | Feb 03 16:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: there's a joke about tumblr and transfats being bad for consumption | Feb 03 16:22 |
| schestowitz | [20:14] <MinceR> https://i.reddituploads.com/769c46c0caad495ab0b7e0eada7d4412?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=e46f82d346b50decbe29182a65165168re | Feb 03 16:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Depending on how one defines #fakenews (Wikipedia...' | Feb 03 16:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks When both sides play dirty, namely spread...' | Feb 03 16:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@daviddoesfrance I was upset at this claim. As...' | Feb 03 16:54 | |
| MinceR | 03 222044 < schestowitz> The command of the mammalian parasite? ;-) | Feb 03 16:58 |
| MinceR | many humans? :> | Feb 03 16:58 |
| MinceR | also, dogs | Feb 03 16:59 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/AE6UASa.jpg | Feb 03 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: sounds familiar | Feb 03 17:59 |
| schestowitz | was the meaning of cracker something about whites in black dialect? | Feb 03 17:59 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 03 18:14 |
| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4206 | Feb 03 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | It says it right there in your bible. | Feb 03 18:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2377.html | Feb 03 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... UnLadylike Liberty! | Feb 03 19:40 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | How to talk about Trump using trumpspeak (and why you should) / Boing Boing | Feb 03 20:15 | |
| MinceR | https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/02/03/2118240/zero-day-windows-security-flaw-can-crash-systems-cause-bsods | Feb 03 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.slashdot.org | Zero-Day Windows Security Flaw Can Crash Systems, Cause BSODs - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/qfdua ] | Feb 03 20:20 | |
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| cubexyz | the windows flaws will never end | Feb 03 23:23 |
| cubexyz | today's Ken Thompson's birthday | Feb 03 23:27 |
| cubexyz | 74 | Feb 03 23:27 |
| cubexyz | Ritchie wasn't in good health and died in 2011 | Feb 03 23:28 |
| cubexyz | trying to get more customers off of windows... | Feb 03 23:34 |
| cubexyz | $DEITY knows what is in the bowels of windows | Feb 03 23:35 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm starting to see AM2 socket stuff go bad so I thought I' | Feb 03 23:44 |
| cubexyz | I | Feb 03 23:44 |
| cubexyz | I'd do a recap on longevity... | Feb 03 23:44 |
| cubexyz | almost all the 2001 and 2002 era laptops I've seen have gone bad in some way | Feb 03 23:45 |
| cubexyz | even some of the 2004 ones | Feb 03 23:45 |
| cubexyz | not all, but almost all | Feb 03 23:46 |
| cubexyz | a few of the HP ones still work with minor maintainance | Feb 03 23:46 |
| cubexyz | on the other side of the coin I've got multiple P3 desktop/tower systems that work fine | Feb 03 23:47 |
| cubexyz | gigabyte, tyan, and one QDI, a dell(!), and IBM 300GL | Feb 03 23:48 |
| cubexyz | can't merely be a coincidence... | Feb 03 23:49 |
| cubexyz | also one of my customers still is using a TV from 1972 :) | Feb 03 23:50 |
| cubexyz | I'll find out which one | Feb 03 23:50 |
| cubexyz | some of the pcchips and jetway motherboards were not great... pcchips in particular was pretty bad | Feb 03 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827741486670237696 | Feb 03 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The February 2017 issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Feb 03 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MapQsWAj3j (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 03 23:57 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/zworykin-tv-1929.jpg | Feb 04 00:43 |
| amarsh04 | I met Dennis Ritchie but didn't actually meet Ken Thompson although I heard him at a conference | Feb 04 00:50 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: what is this? | Feb 04 00:52 |
| cubexyz | very early tv set | Feb 04 00:52 |
| cubexyz | I was trying to find the oldest electronic tv | Feb 04 00:52 |
| amarsh04 | oldest pc hardware I'm running is a DPT2044W SCSI controller, cable and IBM SCSI hard disk from 1998 | Feb 04 00:54 |
| cubexyz | almost 20 years, pretty good | Feb 04 00:55 |
| amarsh04 | lssci: [0:0:6:0] disk IBM DCAS-34330W S65A /dev/sda | Feb 04 00:55 |
| cubexyz | what make of motherboard? | Feb 04 00:55 |
| amarsh04 | and lspci 05:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartCache/Raid I-IV Controller (rev 02) | Feb 04 00:55 |
| amarsh04 | running a secondhand ASUS that replaced a couple of others including a BIOSTAR 440BX board that was bought as the same time as SCSI controller and disk | Feb 04 00:56 |
| cubexyz | ah, not a 1998 motherboard then | Feb 04 00:56 |
| amarsh04 | this one is A8V-MX | Feb 04 00:56 |
| amarsh04 | last BIOS update was in 2005 | Feb 04 00:57 |
| cubexyz | socket 939, bah :) | Feb 04 00:57 |
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| amarsh04 | linux installation is from June 2004, upgraded, migrated to other hardware but not reinstalled | Feb 04 00:58 |
| amarsh04 | and after the Radeon 9200se video card died I was able to get a Radeon 9550 | Feb 04 01:01 |
| cubexyz | I'm curious about computer longevity, it's kind of a hobby | Feb 04 01:02 |
| amarsh04 | in the making of for the movie "The Dish", a lot of the 1969 era equipment still worked | Feb 04 01:04 |
| amarsh04 | my Telebit fastblazer modem had its telephone line interface circuitry fried by a lightning strike in November 2014 | Feb 04 01:07 |
| amarsh04 | Fastblazer 8840 | Feb 04 01:07 |
| amarsh04 | the ADSL2+ modem online at the same time survived | Feb 04 01:09 |
| cubexyz | what did they used to call those big satellite dishes? BUDs :) | Feb 04 01:09 |
| amarsh04 | an AR7 based device that was bought in December 2008 | Feb 04 01:09 |
| cubexyz | I don't like the idea of replacing my computer every 5 years | Feb 04 01:10 |
| amarsh04 | new pc is from January 2009 | Feb 04 01:11 |
| cubexyz | the Tyan S1832DL is the PC longevity champ | Feb 04 01:11 |
| cubexyz | that one is also 1998 | Feb 04 01:11 |
| amarsh04 | what chipset? | Feb 04 01:12 |
| cubexyz | 440BX | Feb 04 01:13 |
| amarsh04 | ok | Feb 04 01:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm still learning about it :) | Feb 04 01:14 |
| amarsh04 | I didn't like the 384 MiB RAM limit | Feb 04 01:14 |
| amarsh04 | on the 440BX motherboard I had | Feb 04 01:14 |
| amarsh04 | and only 3 PCI slots | Feb 04 01:14 |
| cubexyz | there's like two parts: northbridge 82371EB and southbridge PIIX4e | Feb 04 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I guess both together are called 440BX | Feb 04 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I think 1 gigabyte of ram was the limit on that one | Feb 04 01:18 |
| cubexyz | 5 PCI slots | Feb 04 01:18 |
| amarsh04 | I liked how the VAX11/780 and successors could take 4GiB RAM if you could afford it | Feb 04 01:22 |
| amarsh04 | having used VAX11 assembly language (Macro32), there was no way I was prepared to learn x86 assembly language | Feb 04 01:23 |
| cubexyz | I had no idea VAX11/780 could take that much memory | Feb 04 01:23 |
| cubexyz | I thought 8 megs was the limit | Feb 04 01:23 |
| amarsh04 | maybe for the VAX11/780 | Feb 04 01:24 |
| amarsh04 | VAX 8600 was the biggest one that I'd used | Feb 04 01:24 |
| amarsh04 | and that might have had 12 or 16 MiB RAM, the 11/780's that I used had less than 2 MiB RAM | Feb 04 01:25 |
| cubexyz | oh wait a sec | Feb 04 01:26 |
| amarsh04 | sorry, I haven't looked up the limits of the various VAX computers | Feb 04 01:26 |
| cubexyz | you can get a MS780-E memory controller | Feb 04 01:26 |
| cubexyz | that goes up to 128 megs | Feb 04 01:26 |
| amarsh04 | last VAX at Adelaide University was retired around 2001 or 2002 | Feb 04 01:27 |
| cubexyz | only ones I can simulate are Vax-11/780 and MicroVax 3900 | Feb 04 01:27 |
| cubexyz | yeah, I can run Unix v8 on the simulated Vax-11 | Feb 04 01:28 |
| amarsh04 | back in 1991 I was using DEC Ultrix on MicroVAX-II | Feb 04 01:28 |
| amarsh04 | and in 1994 I met Jon "Mad Dog" Hall | Feb 04 01:29 |
| cubexyz | I should fire up v8 and see if I can get it to run with more than 8 megs of ram | Feb 04 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827765492257607680 | Feb 04 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 04 01:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DC7FpO5oRK (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 04 01:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 04 01:30 | |
| cubexyz | ok, simh can emulate the 11/780, which supports 128 megs of ram | Feb 04 01:33 |
| cubexyz | so yes, possible | Feb 04 01:33 |
| amarsh04 | interesting, thanks for checking | Feb 04 01:34 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if anyone still runs Vax | Feb 04 01:35 |
| amarsh04 | I also remember using some flavour of *nix on a 80386 based hardware branded Pyramid back around 1991 also | Feb 04 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827766071885176832 | Feb 04 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek | Feb 04 01:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Helio P20 processor https://t.co/Fff5MttoXZ | Feb 04 01:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor - Tizen Experts | Feb 04 01:36 | |
| cubexyz | yeah there was some pretty early Unixes for PCs | Feb 04 01:36 |
| cubexyz | Venix and Xenix were two I used | Feb 04 01:37 |
| cubexyz | a pity I don't still have my original 286 | Feb 04 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827767705134628864 | Feb 04 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine development release 2.1" | Feb 04 01:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 2.1 is now available. | Feb 04 01:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.1 is out with more Shader Model 5 work | GamingOnLinux | Feb 04 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.1 Released With Greater SM5 Support, Better Direct2D Rendering - Phoronix | Feb 04 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 2.1 Adds More Shader Model 5 Instructions, Direct2D Rendering Improvements | Feb 04 01:38 | |
| cubexyz | there's NuVax 3200... replicates a Vax | Feb 04 01:39 |
| cubexyz | eventually companies won't be able to find parts for their ancient Vaxes | Feb 04 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827768228684427265 | Feb 04 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa has a patch from a Valve developer to help ARK | Feb 04 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Survival Evolved run on the open source drivers | Feb 04 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JOb1ATycgu (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 04 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa has a patch from a Valve developer to help ARK Survival Evolved run on the open source drivers | GamingOnLinux | Feb 04 01:40 | |
| amarsh04 | my original pc was a 286-10 with 640 kiB RAM | Feb 04 01:40 |
| amarsh04 | NEAT chipset | Feb 04 01:41 |
| amarsh04 | even ended up buying an 80287 chip for it | Feb 04 01:41 |
| cubexyz | I kept my amiga 500 from that era... but not any of the PCs | Feb 04 01:47 |
| cubexyz | hard to get nostalgic for a 286 with hercules graphics :) | Feb 04 01:47 |
| amarsh04 | hehehe | Feb 04 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827768647200493570 | Feb 04 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All | Feb 04 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supported Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/oqDO9vrxql | Feb 04 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 04 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Feb 04 01:48 | |
| cubexyz | also expanded/extended memory wasn't fun to program on | Feb 04 01:48 |
| amarsh04 | and 64 kiB memory segments | Feb 04 01:50 |
| cubexyz | DEC messed up big-time | Feb 04 01:50 |
| cubexyz | we really should be running descendents of microvax | Feb 04 01:51 |
| amarsh04 | around 2002-2003 I also was able to use SparcStation 10 computers, I remember downloading gcc-3.2 then using it to compile gcc-3.3 on it | Feb 04 01:53 |
| amarsh04 | 50 MHz CPU clock (-: | Feb 04 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827770752946548736 | Feb 04 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/yN8LlYkZf7 | Feb 04 01:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com | 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. | Feb 04 01:55 | |
| cubexyz | openbsd supports alpha, armv7, hppa, loongson and sparc64 | Feb 04 01:56 |
| cubexyz | old stuff like sun4 got dropped a while back | Feb 04 01:57 |
| cubexyz | I think vax was also dropped | Feb 04 01:57 |
| amarsh04 | when no-one is left to contribute gcc ports, the end is nigh | Feb 04 01:58 |
| amarsh04 | remembering how the Kermit developer couldn't keep a Data General Eclipse running for maintaining ports | Feb 04 01:59 |
| cubexyz | well hardware and software emulation could keep things going maybe | Feb 04 02:01 |
| cubexyz | I still hack on Unix v5 but I wouldn't try to keep a real PDP-11 working | Feb 04 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827772559206805504 | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qgMn3fsRDw (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 04 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Feb 04 02:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774453891289088 | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.1 Development Release https://t.co/wUP4Poov9f | Feb 04 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.1 Development Release | Tux Machines | Feb 04 02:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774458802823168 | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/PoeUgUhhoJ | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/mpJ4yxAPf6 | Feb 04 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. | Tux Machines | Feb 04 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/PoeUgUhhoJ https://t.co/mpJ4yxAPf6 | Feb 04 02:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774465459118080 | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Feb 04 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JkFbCIDgY1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Tux Machines | Feb 04 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape https://t.co/JkFbCIDgY1 https://t.co/LenmBQXyYu | Feb 04 02:03 | |
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| cubexyz | vax was only discontinued fairly recently on openbsd | Feb 04 02:04 |
| cubexyz | so not _too_ hard to run 5.8 or older on your microvax | Feb 04 02:05 |
| cubexyz | probably too slow for most people | Feb 04 02:07 |
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| cubexyz | google is dropping some support from chrome 53 and older | Feb 04 02:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774473021435905 | Feb 04 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived | Feb 04 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TrueOS https://t.co/3dss6mQWAt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GrnjOZuW9i | Feb 04 02:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived TrueOS | Tux Machines | Feb 04 02:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived TrueOS https://t.co/3dss6mQWAt https://t.co/GrnjOZuW9i | Feb 04 02:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827779147799871488 | Feb 04 02:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 Best Linux Task Managers https://t.co/iODSX4uF2A | Feb 04 02:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Feb 04 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Best Linux Task Managers - LinuxAndUbuntu | Feb 04 02:32 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce Journalism is dead if we call BuzzFeed...' | Feb 04 02:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827782510385860608 | Feb 04 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development News:GitLab, Git, and PHP | Feb 04 02:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News:GitLab, Git, and PHP | Tux Machines | Feb 04 02:35 | |
| amarsh04 | new kernel time | Feb 04 02:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827782512852115456 | Feb 04 03:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics News and Benchmarks https://t.co/k1e2fUfCB4 | Feb 04 03:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827788987565752321 | Feb 04 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Netgear router vulnerability and critical bug in Linux | Feb 04 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | app: Security news IT leaders need to know | Feb 04 03:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zkVbdqmDF2 (business.financialpost.com) | Feb 04 03:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827789400113344513 | Feb 04 03:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-focused Linux-based operating system Tails 3.0 | Feb 04 03:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | will drop 32-bit support https://t.co/RFWN1Tgh8R | Feb 04 03:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) https://t.co/n70B1mw0pc (www.neowin.net) | Feb 04 03:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827793518399746048 | Feb 04 03:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The RunIQ, New Balance’s first Android Wear smartwatch, | Feb 04 03:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | is now available | Feb 04 03:20 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Feb 04 03:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827793860411666432 | Feb 04 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | European Bioinformatics Institute chooses Red Hat | Feb 04 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack | Feb 04 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rwgMVMGMKj (www.cloudpro.co.uk) | Feb 04 03:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk | European Bioinformatics Institute chooses Red Hat OpenStack | Cloud Pro | Feb 04 03:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @BioNagoya favourited 'European Bioinformatics Institute chooses Red Hat OpenStack ...' | Feb 04 03:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | No, Google hasn't cancelled Pixel production | Feb 04 03:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nv5xZGi4RO (www.androidcentral.com) | Feb 04 03:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | No, Google hasn't cancelled Pixel production | Android Central | Feb 04 03:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827798990682890241 | Feb 04 03:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tails and 64-bit Processors https://t.co/rlZ97REIne | Feb 04 03:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails and 64-bit Processors | Tux Machines | Feb 04 03:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827798991995678721 | Feb 04 03:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security News https://t.co/6swIC9JVOF | Feb 04 03:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Feb 04 03:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827798993371435008 | Feb 04 03:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/3DbL8ah9xW | Feb 04 03:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 04 03:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827798995439218689 | Feb 04 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/CVtJzojI5g | Feb 04 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 04:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Feb 04 04:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/pjl69hUStb | Feb 04 06:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 06:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal One of the rare days all the...' | Feb 04 07:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827859503672602624 | Feb 04 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Lands A Lot More 3.24 | Feb 04 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feature Work https://t.co/mAg6j9aSFg (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 04 07:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Lands A Lot More 3.24 Feature Work - Phoronix | Feb 04 07:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All...' | Feb 04 07:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '"The Wine development release 2.1" https://t.co/kWnf2ZDxKC https://t.co/CcJuIrZ9io https://t.co/qdDLEvTQYI...' | Feb 04 08:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 2.1 is now available. | Feb 04 08:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.1 is out with more Shader Model 5 work | GamingOnLinux | Feb 04 08:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.1 Released With Greater SM5 Support, Better Direct2D Rendering - Phoronix | Feb 04 08:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827865178532229120 | Feb 04 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bodhi Needs Testers, Build Your Own PC | Feb 04 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/S179YGqelc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 08:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Needs Testers, Build Your Own PC | Tux Machines | Feb 04 08:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827865820957122561 | Feb 04 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Cool Internet Radio Players For Linux | Feb 04 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2UXmJYjMYr (www.webupd8.org) | Feb 04 08:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | 6 Cool Internet Radio Players For Linux ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Feb 04 08:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827867919967256576 | Feb 04 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Applications in Ubuntu Snap Store | Feb 04 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/36Sv2RbgfY (apachelog.wordpress.com) | Feb 04 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CHBDxdeEYm (blogs.kde.org) | Feb 04 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apachelog.wordpress.com | KDE Applications in Ubuntu Snap Store | やった | Feb 04 08:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simple Menu launcher on KDE Store | blogs.kde.org | Feb 04 08:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827868864507678723 | Feb 04 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vaults - Encryption in Plasma https://t.co/ltpymajAkL | Feb 04 08:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (cukic.co) | Feb 04 08:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cukic.co | Ivan Čukić | Vaults - Encryption in Plasma | Feb 04 08:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827873604402442241 | Feb 04 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: WikiToLearn India, FOSDEM 2017, MesosCon | Feb 04 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LgRiOOsB3C (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 08:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: WikiToLearn India, FOSDEM 2017, MesosCon | Tux Machines | Feb 04 08:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827873606692507649 | Feb 04 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE/Qt: PDF Module, Vaults, KDE Store | Feb 04 08:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FtQyMKfkeS (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 08:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Qt: PDF Module, Vaults, KDE Store | Tux Machines | Feb 04 08:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal Someone needs to stop Chelsea or there...' | Feb 04 08:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal One more for humiliation' | Feb 04 08:46 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5roaa6/57_see_iot_device_security_as_the_responsibility/ | Feb 04 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | 57% see IoT device security as the responsibility of the manufacturer but manufacturers don’t step up : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qfgej ] | Feb 04 08:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WAIHARO2 @Arsenal @LFC Not even in Anfield' | Feb 04 08:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal @_nachomonreal @_OlivierGiroud_ When is Arsene out?' | Feb 04 09:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Package managers all the way down | Feb 04 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Pirdm5kDHX (lwn.net) | Feb 04 09:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Package managers all the way down [LWN.net] | Feb 04 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal That's it. End of Wenger's career.' | Feb 04 09:26 | |
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| Sebsebsebb | bh | Feb 04 09:42 |
| Sebsebsebb | Hi | Feb 04 09:43 |
| XRevan86 | Sebsebsebb: hi | Feb 04 09:43 |
| schestowitz | 0/ | Feb 04 09:43 |
| Sebsebsebb | From Belgium | Feb 04 09:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why choose something new? : linux | Feb 04 09:45 | |
| XRevan86 | For some reason I see distrohopping as a sign of a newbie. | Feb 04 09:46 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal If Wenger's surname wasn't Arsene, Arsenal would...' | Feb 04 09:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827891522460868608 | Feb 04 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now Support | Feb 04 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest Kobo Device https://t.co/1zEgMaWr6V | Feb 04 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.noobslab.com) | Feb 04 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now Support Latest Kobo Device - NoobsLab | Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps | Feb 04 10:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "the brains behind multi effects pedal, MOD, which runs | Feb 04 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Linux and other FLOSS software" | Feb 04 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0ThPrs0sFL (libremusicproduction.com) | Feb 04 10:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libremusicproduction.com | LMP Asks #22: An interview with Gianfranco Ceccolini | Libre Music Production | Feb 04 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827896066347524096 | Feb 04 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conky Alternative Weather Widget "Cumulus" Available For | Feb 04 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint https://t.co/RZzhUvNpWP | Feb 04 10:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Conky Alternative Weather Widget "Cumulus" Available For Ubuntu/Linux Mint - NoobsLab | Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps | Feb 04 10:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5r16fv/im_meeting_richard_stallman_today_what_would_you/ | Feb 04 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I'm meeting Richard Stallman today. What would YOU want to ask Stallman? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qfgx2 ] | Feb 04 10:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827896547316731904 | Feb 04 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Replicant 6.0 development updates https://t.co/Yjx1FlOKNL | Feb 04 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.replicant.us | Replicant 6.0 development updates | Replicant | Feb 04 10:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/apt6H | Feb 04 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Just making room - Album on Imgur | Feb 04 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827903354202370050 | Feb 04 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is why I love linux, hundreds tabs opens, tons of | Feb 04 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | programs, RAM is full but my swap on SSD makes it | Feb 04 10:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | seamless!! https://t.co/5kdktA22WI (www.reddit.com) | Feb 04 10:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | This is why I love linux, hundreds tabs opens, tons of programs, RAM is full but my swap on SSD makes it seamless!! No crashes, no hangups, it's completely responsive! : linux | Feb 04 10:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827905116565078024 | Feb 04 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "goes by the name ZeroPhone. It is an open source | Feb 04 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartphone that’s powered by Raspberry Pi Zero." | Feb 04 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/F77MZrDCOj (techviral.com) | Feb 04 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techviral.com | ZeroPhone — An Open Source, Linux-powered Smartphone Is Here | Feb 04 10:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now...' | Feb 04 10:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908336339271680 | Feb 04 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Disgaea 2 is Now Available on Linux | Feb 04 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0P1Sry4lL9 (boilingsteam.com) | Feb 04 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Disgaea 2 is Now Available on Linux – Boiling Steam | Feb 04 10:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908737524445187 | Feb 04 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Billy Bass, Alexa and a Raspberry Pi | Feb 04 10:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Kd6edIefSF (anotherpiblog.blogspot.com) | Feb 04 10:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anotherpiblog.blogspot.com | Another Pi Blog: Billy Bass, Alexa and a Raspberry Pi | Feb 04 10:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908970392252416 | Feb 04 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Publishing the Data of our Last Linux Gamers Survey | Feb 04 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rGeV7EutA9 (boilingsteam.com) | Feb 04 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Publishing the Data of our Last Linux Gamers Survey – Boiling Steam | Feb 04 11:01 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/TatCb | Feb 04 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kettehs. - Album on Imgur | Feb 04 11:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Say_Non_Now/status/827914277013037056 | Feb 04 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Say_Non_Now: @schestowitz So now the media is going to be the 4th estate again after being the government's mouthpiece? | Feb 04 11:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915001503576070 | Feb 04 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/ZKZSt5FSjp | Feb 04 11:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 04 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915003437015040 | Feb 04 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/zBxLoeLb6s | Feb 04 11:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 04 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915007941750784 | Feb 04 11:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/VS0S1xyPVH | Feb 04 11:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 04 11:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@LFC Change coach' | Feb 04 11:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@LFC Liverpoll is finished for the season.' | Feb 04 11:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@LFC Liverpool is finished for the season. Losing...' | Feb 04 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931483494969344 | Feb 04 12:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/7Jjzgzl2lN | Feb 04 12:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931485436932096 | Feb 04 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/M1Qzg2Ig9Z | Feb 04 12:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recv failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/98264?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ) | Feb 04 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931488716939265 | Feb 04 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/qD9hWNtZCO | Feb 04 12:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 04 12:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines saw that tweetby @tuxmachines too | Feb 04 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931487118962689 | Feb 04 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phones with Freedom https://t.co/QkJhCTqEqO | Feb 04 12:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phones with Freedom | Tux Machines | Feb 04 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827932721808805890 | Feb 04 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 4/2/2017: Tails for 64-bit Processors, Wine 2.1 | Feb 04 12:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development https://t.co/aULoj7nWiM (techrights.org) | Feb 04 12:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/2/2017: Tails for 64-bit Processors, Wine 2.1 Development | Techrights | Feb 04 12:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein It also happened because people around Agent...' | Feb 04 12:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Feb 04 12:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Feb 04 12:59 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1792/ | Feb 04 13:28 |
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| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4212 | Feb 04 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | Creationist NASA | Feb 04 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827939547430281216 | Feb 04 14:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/oe3OKsLWiK | Feb 04 14:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 14:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827964336689655808 | Feb 04 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.8 https://t.co/NGqthx8l03 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 14:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.8 | Tux Machines | Feb 04 14:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein @CheriHonkala Your current VP actually spent some...' | Feb 04 15:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/op-ed-when-marketers-drive-microsofts-0day-exploit-communications-we-all-lose/ | Feb 04 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Op-ed: Windows 10 0day exploit goes wild, and so do Microsoft marketers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/qfi72 ] | Feb 04 16:08 | |
| cubexyz | Microsoft truly sucks | Feb 04 16:09 |
| cubexyz | had to deal with them directly just recently | Feb 04 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | CERT reported on a severely critical security vulnerability in Windows 10, so Ars Technica emailed MSFT aand got a reply from a nameless individual that users should stick to Windows 10 and Edge, even though Windows 10 is as vulnerable as any other supported version and the exploit doesn't even require use of a web browser. | Feb 04 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | MSFT continued that "only Windows has a commitment to customer safety". | Feb 04 16:09 |
| cubexyz | windows 10 is just garbage | Feb 04 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Also, that they have a proactive response to security issues, even though no patch is available. | Feb 04 16:10 |
| cubexyz | windows 10 had a cert advisory of 10 (maximum in volnerability scoring system), lol | Feb 04 16:10 |
| cubexyz | oh then downgraded to a mere 7.8 | Feb 04 16:11 |
| cubexyz | so an attacker can trigger a big fat BSOD | Feb 04 16:11 |
| cubexyz | it's a zero day in the SMB service | Feb 04 16:14 |
| cubexyz | shouldn't be difficult to block outbound SMB connections, but still... | Feb 04 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | I posted that to Facebook, adding: | Feb 04 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, a comparable Linux kernel bug would have been patched by now and you could upgrade just the kernel package to fix the problem, and any Linux distribution would have 2-3 previous kernels installed and available in the boot menu in case you get a bad upgrade and can't start your computer. | Feb 04 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft forces you to take in "mega patches" that attempt to fix dozens of bugs at a time, and if your computer doesn't boot and you get a Blue Screen of Death instead, maybe you have to format the entire drive and reinstall Windows. :P | Feb 04 16:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really I am not surprised history of samba breaking windows is a old one. | Feb 04 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | As an aside, even though Apple usually does mega patches, you don't hear about widespread failures, but that's probably because they never have more than a handful of supported Macs to test them on. | Feb 04 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's approach doesn't work because there are hundreds of PC models released every year from dozens of manufacturers, so MSFT uses "telemetry" data and when they break a few thousand systems they can shut off the update to those models, but that doesn't help any of those people recover. | Feb 04 16:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://github.com/adobe/node-smb-server Not quite a simple as one would hope its very simple to remote exploit to execute code could run own custom SMB server/client on machine inside your network. | Feb 04 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - adobe/node-smb-server: A 100% JavaScript implementation of the SMB file sharing protocol. | Feb 04 16:19 | |
| cubexyz | I'm worried that microsoft is going to axe updates for XP completely | Feb 04 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/us/politics/visa-ban-trump-judge-james-robart.html?_r=0 | Feb 04 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - New York Times | Feb 04 16:19 | |
| cubexyz | so I asked microsoft if there was a backdoor to bypass activation, I thought it was reasonable | Feb 04 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | A federal judge in Washington state has issued a nationwide injunction to stop Trump's entire immigration executive order. | Feb 04 16:20 |
| cubexyz | that didn't go well (as you can imagine) | Feb 04 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | Trump is furious. | Feb 04 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | I still would advise not leaving the US if you're here on any kind of immigrant visa. There's no telling what a higher court will do and if you leave now, you may not be allowed back in in another week. | Feb 04 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | I still would advise not leaving the US if you're here on any kind of immigrant visa. There's no telling what a higher court will do and if you leave now, you may not be allowed back in in another week. | Feb 04 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Feb 04 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, there's no telling what Adolf Trumpler's brownshirt minions at the DHS or CBP will do. Some are ignoring our court system. They should be held in contempt and arrested, but so far, the judges aren't doing that. | Feb 04 16:23 |
| cubexyz | well the future is going to be interesting | Feb 04 16:23 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's a big problem with XP and changing the motherboard | Feb 04 16:25 |
| cubexyz | I had to go through Microsoft's stupid robot system... it was very painful | Feb 04 16:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a built in back door to windows XP. Particular volume license keys and windows machines don't check if they are valid or not with XP. | Feb 04 16:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and most of those keys have already leaked. | Feb 04 16:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also people don't notice that even with Windows 10 on dell and the like the case has one license value on it but the installed OS on all the dell for a particular version of windows is all one single key. | Feb 04 16:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes that one single key is not the key on the box. | Feb 04 16:32 |
| cubexyz | I'm worried that microsoft could just blacklist a license key | Feb 04 16:33 |
| oiaohm | Dell license keys lets black list 200 million installs thank you. | Feb 04 16:35 |
| oiaohm | HP and so on are just as bad. | Feb 04 16:35 |
| cubexyz | M$ is ties the license key to the hardware | Feb 04 16:37 |
| cubexyz | changed the motherboard... had to re-activate | Feb 04 16:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Pre-installation << the windows XP keys are sitting on wikipedia. | Feb 04 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | System Locked Pre-installation - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qfiam ] | Feb 04 16:38 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: hardware makers making mass volumes of systems like being able to just clone image install. | Feb 04 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | The TSA isn't allowed to hire anyone. I wonder how all these idiots who voted Trump will feel by the summer when they have to spend four hours in line at the airport both ways to take their family to fucking Disney. | Feb 04 17:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/813472/flying-out-of-ph-be-at-airport-4-hours-early only 4 hours long? | Feb 04 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsinfo.inquirer.net | Flying out of PH? Be at airport 4 hours early | Inquirer News [ http://ur1.ca/qfifm ] | Feb 04 17:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't understand how Disney World makes billions every year. | Feb 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | There was a time when people found this entertaining? | Feb 04 17:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: insanity would be if it gets to 12 hours long so you waste a day at each end. | Feb 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | I liked Jim Gaffigan on Disney. | Feb 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Then there's my favorite ride. The air conditioned shuttle bus back to the hotel." | Feb 04 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | "I stood in line for an hour to ride the Dumbo ride. I realized that I was the dumbo. There's just gonna be a guy up there with a mirror going 'Dumbo! Dumbo!". | Feb 04 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Now you know why dad was always angry. 'How can I spend an enormous amount of money, be miserable, and listen to the entire family complaining anyway. Disney! Yay!" | Feb 04 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 04 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | "I hope you're happy, kids. It was this or college!" | Feb 04 17:18 |
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| oiaohm | Really I guess disney has to be better than movie world was here in Australia when it first opened. | Feb 04 17:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Have you ever caught yourself wondering what the entire preserved vascular system of a shark looks like? - Album on Imgur | Feb 04 18:01 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: the track record of pepper spray and tear gas is not 100 percent perfect. There are recorded lethality. But it lower than a gun as long as person with the spray used on get medical attention. | Jan 29 00:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Kubuntu 17.04 Alpha 2 released for testers | Jan 29 01:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 17.04 Alpha 2 released for testers | Tux Machines | Jan 29 01:53 | |
| cubexyz | back in 2012 wired magazine ran an article on unfixable computers | Jan 29 02:26 |
| cubexyz | they said the statistics show that about 1/3 of computers break by the 4h year | Jan 29 02:27 |
| cubexyz | which leads to this: | Jan 29 02:27 |
| cubexyz | https://www.damninteresting.com/the-pit-of-life-and-death/ | Jan 29 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.damninteresting.com | The Pit of Life and Death • Damn Interesting | Jan 29 02:28 | |
| cubexyz | The Berkeley Pit | Jan 29 02:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, the ASUS UX32VD Zenbook got the highest repairability score 8/10 | Jan 29 02:51 |
| cubexyz | coreboot support is a real crapshoot though | Jan 29 02:54 |
| cubexyz | in #coreboot they are always talking about Lenovo X200 | Jan 29 02:54 |
| cubexyz | so I'll say get a used X200 or a chromebook | Jan 29 02:55 |
| cubexyz | there's nothing ideal though | Jan 29 02:56 |
| cubexyz | it could be that chromebox + external monitor is better | Jan 29 02:57 |
| cubexyz | no need to worry about taking the laptop apart to try to fix the monitor if it goes bad | Jan 29 02:57 |
| cubexyz | and if you got a small enough monitor it would be quasi-portable | Jan 29 02:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/825644015261536257 | Jan 29 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Typoman: Revised soon available on SteamOS + Linux | Jan 29 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/e6johGhkfn (www.gamasutra.com) | Jan 29 10:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Typoman: Revised soon available on SteamOS + Linux | Jan 29 10:03 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: laptop most common failure point is the cable between the screen and mainbody | Jan 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KirkSiegler/status/825456400822202368 | Jan 29 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KirkSiegler: CNN headline right now is pretty extraordinary https://t.co/Vgn4JyVssC | Jan 29 10:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KirkSiegler: CNN headline right now is pretty extraordinary https://t.co/Vgn4JyVssC | Jan 29 10:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825648001704148992 | Jan 29 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz I left 6 years ago... wouldn't blame it on BHO.(although he was hideous imho). it is a systemic problem.. | Jan 29 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825652023353868288 | Jan 29 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz fyi not true.. it took me only 5 minutes to find an attack in Spain 11 Americans killed .. didn't research further yet.. busy | Jan 29 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825652203994103808 | Jan 29 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz @fabsh wtf! | Jan 29 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825652571691970561 | Jan 29 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz respectfully disagree | Jan 29 10:34 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-dimension-store | Jan 29 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Dimension Store | Jan 29 13:47 | |
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| cubexyz | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/theory-of-awful-tv | Jan 29 14:00 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jan 29 14:01 |
| cubexyz | the 26 dimension thing I think is from string theory | Jan 29 14:02 |
| MinceR | i thought that was only 11 | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | wonder how they came up with that | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | well, read the comic :) | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | I think it's 10, 11 or 26 | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/292919/why-are-there-specifically-10-11-or-26-dimensions-in-string-theory | Jan 29 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-physics.stackexchange.com | spacetime - Why are there specifically 10, 11, or 26 dimensions in string theory? - Physics Stack Exchange | Jan 29 14:03 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 29 14:03 |
| cubexyz | I think it's a bosonic string theory thing | Jan 29 14:04 |
| cubexyz | easy reading for the weekend ;) | Jan 29 14:04 |
| oiaohm | String theory is not a single theory that brings lots of problems. | Jan 29 14:06 |
| oiaohm | So someone could write a new string theory as long it has the maths could have a unlimtied number of dimensions | Jan 29 14:07 |
| cubexyz | ok... I know I've heard that 26 number before | Jan 29 14:08 |
| cubexyz | it was on Star Trek NG.... The Nth Degree | Jan 29 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | Why people give so much attention to that though? | Jan 29 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | What a dissapointment will it be if a new superior theory will arise and it'll state "there are 4 dimensions". | Jan 29 14:10 |
| cubexyz | well, I'm just a bit curious how they came up with it | Jan 29 14:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 29 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, I mean, in general :). | Jan 29 14:12 |
| cubexyz | that number 26 pops up in other areas | Jan 29 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | I'm on the boring side because I think we'd notice if there are more than 3 dimensions of space. | Jan 29 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | unless all other dimensions are completely and totally empty | Jan 29 14:15 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: In fact the problem is we have with gravity distortion on space time. | Jan 29 14:15 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so X Y and Z distances are not exactly constants. | Jan 29 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Notice in a sense "a 6 dimensional particle flies by and makes a big mess" | Jan 29 14:15 |
| cubexyz | there's lots of things beyond our perception | Jan 29 14:16 |
| MinceR | they're not empty, they're small | Jan 29 14:16 |
| MinceR | though i suspect even that would mean issues in thermodynamics | Jan 29 14:16 |
| MinceR | (i seem to remember something about degrees of freedom) | Jan 29 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If our universe is 3 dimensional, then all other dimensions of space will be infinitely bigger than the universe no matter how small they are %). | Jan 29 14:17 |
| cubexyz | like the visible spectrum of light is a pretty small range | Jan 29 14:17 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/02/gravitational-waves-einsteins-ripples-spacetime-spotted-first-time << basically we can detect ripples in space time. | Jan 29 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencemag.org | Gravitational waves, Einstein's ripples in spacetime, spotted for first time | Science | AAAS | Jan 29 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | If the 4 dimensiions of x y z and t was everything those ripples would not happen. | Jan 29 14:18 |
| oiaohm | So we know there is more than 4 but how many more than 4 is the problem. | Jan 29 14:18 |
| cubexyz | and of those 26 dimensions, 25 of them are spatial dimensions | Jan 29 14:19 |
| cubexyz | beats me how they came up with that | Jan 29 14:19 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Well, shoot :). | Jan 29 14:19 |
| cubexyz | oh good... there's Bosonic String Theory for Dummies | Jan 29 14:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/ | Jan 29 14:20 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/ | Jan 29 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bosonic String Theory: 25 Space Dimensions - dummies | Jan 29 14:21 | |
| cubexyz | why does it always do that on me | Jan 29 14:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: from the string theories 6 dimensions to who know how many. The lowest complexity string theory is only 6 dimensions | Jan 29 14:23 |
| oiaohm | At this stage will don't have a theory that explains all observational results. | Jan 29 14:24 |
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| XRevan86 | > "Obama is still a neoliberal politician" | Jan 29 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | darn, I forgot what "neoliberal" means again | Jan 29 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | liberal: human rights, libertarian: unregulated market economy | Jan 29 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | what's neoliberal? | Jan 29 14:48 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism | Jan 29 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Neoliberalism - Wikipedia | Jan 29 14:48 | |
| XRevan86 | Exactly the same thing as libertarianism then? | Jan 29 14:49 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jan 29 14:50 |
| cubexyz | I think libertarianism is a bit different | Jan 29 14:50 |
| cubexyz | economic and social liberalism | Jan 29 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | So, libertarianism is neoliberalism with a touch of anarcho-capitalism? | Jan 29 14:52 |
| cubexyz | libertarians would be against TARP and bailouts for example | Jan 29 14:52 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Wouldn't neoliberals? | Jan 29 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | those are regulations after all | Jan 29 14:53 |
| cubexyz | no | Jan 29 14:54 |
| cubexyz | "They also tend to believe that an appropriate role for government exists to correct market errors, and that government should be heavily involved in both regulating and partnering with certain businesses." | Jan 29 14:54 |
| cubexyz | as Obama probably saw TARP as a way to correct a 'market error' | Jan 29 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | > These include extensive economic liberalisation policies such as privatisation, fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society. | Jan 29 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | from Wikipedia | Jan 29 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | on neoliberalism | Jan 29 14:55 |
| cubexyz | you're getting into buzzword territory | Jan 29 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What a terminological mess. | Jan 29 14:57 |
| cubexyz | I mean, who actually calls themselves a neoliberal? | Jan 29 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | the neo- part seems redundant | Jan 29 14:58 |
| cubexyz | ok... here's a dictionary definition: | Jan 29 14:58 |
| cubexyz | "an outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions andan outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions and opposition to big business and military buildup. " opposition to big business and military buildup. | Jan 29 14:59 |
| cubexyz | ugh again | Jan 29 14:59 |
| cubexyz | "an outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions and opposition to big business and military buildup." | Jan 29 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | > opposition to big business and military buildup | Jan 29 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | That's pro-regulation then? | Jan 29 14:59 |
| cubexyz | yes I think so | Jan 29 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | which is the opposite of what Wikipedia states | Jan 29 15:00 |
| cubexyz | yes, one contradicts the other | Jan 29 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | So, liberals are in the same pit with the commies :). | Jan 29 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | "communism is close to anarchy" and "commies teh people who give all their crap to the govt" | Jan 29 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | opposites blended into one term | Jan 29 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why it's so common. | Jan 29 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, political terms that mean opposite things. | Jan 29 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | Annoying, that's for sure. | Jan 29 15:05 |
| cubexyz | political double talk | Jan 29 15:05 |
| cubexyz | it's hard to pin down | Jan 29 15:05 |
| cubexyz | no wonder there's so many arguments | Jan 29 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah. Even between people who basically agree with each other. | Jan 29 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | on the constructive part, but not on how they identify themselves :). | Jan 29 15:06 |
| cubexyz | a mathematician could argue with the dictionary definition of the word "set" | Jan 29 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | set foo=bar | Jan 29 15:07 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: A different appliance, people understand that. | Jan 29 15:08 |
| cubexyz | there's a concept I came across years ago | Jan 29 15:09 |
| cubexyz | it's called the "sociological sidestep" | Jan 29 15:09 |
| cubexyz | it happens when words change their meaning over time | Jan 29 15:10 |
| cubexyz | e.g. the term liberal could change over time and even mean different things in different countries | Jan 29 15:10 |
| XRevan86 | I guess everything starts meaning the stereotype of itself over time. | Jan 29 15:13 |
| cubexyz | also this: | Jan 29 15:18 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism | Jan 29 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Historical revisionism - Wikipedia | Jan 29 15:19 | |
| XRevan86 | Indeed. | Jan 29 15:19 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/YpHFYLg.jpg | Jan 29 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | What did "Founding Fathers" stand for? Liberalism? Giving profits to corporations, got it. | Jan 29 15:20 |
| MinceR | afaict most "liberals" and "libertarians" are not liberal nor libertarian at all | Jan 29 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A joke (the pic)? | Jan 29 15:21 |
| MinceR | well, such humans are a joke | Jan 29 15:21 |
| cubexyz | I'll settle for logically consistent :) | Jan 29 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know if that's dark humour or a tragedy. | Jan 29 15:22 |
| MinceR | and of course most "democrats" and "republicans" don't really support democracy or republics | Jan 29 15:23 |
| cubexyz | kind of like those Dihydrogen monoxide jokes :) | Jan 29 15:24 |
| cubexyz | can cause suffocation! | Jan 29 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The worst part is that representative democracy is what republics have. | Jan 29 15:25 |
| XRevan86 | terminologically speaking one can place an equal mark | Jan 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | "The Times of London is reporting that Theresa May's team says she held hands with Trump at Trump's request, because he is afraid of stairs." | Jan 29 15:26 |
| XRevan86 | Good for them. | Jan 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4209 | Jan 29 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion” | Jan 29 15:28 | |
| cubexyz | I think the original idea behind republicanism was rejection of monarchy and aristrocracy | Jan 29 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: One more step from just representative democracy? | Jan 29 15:30 |
| cubexyz | that's what the "framers" wanted | Jan 29 15:33 |
| cubexyz | not a pure democracy, but a representative democracy, as you say | Jan 29 15:34 |
| MinceR | and they're getting neither | Jan 29 15:34 |
| cubexyz | direct democracy would be before the constitution was formed | Jan 29 15:35 |
| cubexyz | around 1787... this being the US one | Jan 29 15:36 |
| cubexyz | in Canada we have a parliamentary government, just another type of representive democracy | Jan 29 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: How fair Canada is to minor parties? | Jan 29 15:39 |
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| cubexyz | I don't think anyone has won any seats outside of Conservative, Liberal or NDP | Jan 29 15:42 |
| cubexyz | I think the Greens got one seat a few years ago | Jan 29 15:42 |
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| cubexyz | the low population territories like Nunavut and Northwest Territories have a consenous government which is a bit different from the provinces | Jan 29 15:47 |
| cubexyz | and there's also aboriginal self-government | Jan 29 15:47 |
| cubexyz | I don't think the consensus government has any political parties | Jan 29 15:48 |
| cubexyz | kind of like Fiji or the Isle of Man | Jan 29 15:49 |
| cubexyz | I don't really know how fair it is though :) | Jan 29 15:49 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 29 19:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yay codecs | Jan 29 19:51 |
| razielle_tzu | yay codecs? | Jan 29 19:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yep got my vidoe its a mp4 though | Jan 29 19:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so not cant just play that on ubuntu touch | Jan 29 19:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well sound I can | Jan 29 19:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but without picture | Jan 29 19:56 |
| razielle_tzu | ah | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, seems going to need an actsaul lap top to play it | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or maybe a android device ? | Jan 29 19:57 |
| razielle_tzu | android would play it, with mxplayer or the beta for vlc | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah seem kind of issues as desktop linux | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yay may just play on my ultra tablet later | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | remix os | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not sure where charger is for lap top right now so | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | however I'll have to give myself a short url it seems to then, since its got some crazy link for download | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, its my speech | Jan 29 19:58 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I remember this kind of thing before | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with a previous one | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then being like ah Ill play on windows then | Jan 29 19:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that was with older net bok | Jan 29 19:59 |
| razielle_tzu | i've never had issues playing stuff | Jan 29 20:01 |
| oiaohm | Mp4 is a package format. Does not say the codec inside. Its way more than possible to end up with unsupported codec be it windows or linux. Now if you are dealing with something using odd ball codecs this is one thing. | Jan 29 20:02 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: There is a Linux trap. If you are using hardware accelerated play back and you run a update that update you video card driver you can get the black screen with audio. Issue is miss matched kernel driver and video accerlation library. | Jan 29 20:04 |
| razielle_tzu | i use vlc or sometimes mpc... never had issues playing anything | Jan 29 20:04 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: windows in that case forces reboot. | Jan 29 20:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, could be | Jan 29 20:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, think may of had that kind of thing on desktop ubuntu or whatever to | Jan 29 20:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I said it was the tablet now so ubuntu touch but it is base don ubuntu 15.04 with some other stuff put in | Jan 29 20:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah vlc is usaully ok, but can't just run that with Ubuntu touch | Jan 29 20:06 |
| oiaohm | You hear about people complain about windows 10 auto updates triggering windows to reboot and losing there work its items where Linux a few applications break but it told you you should restart it. | Jan 29 20:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there is a way if I Want to hack some stuf and set up my own liberitne container but nah | Jan 29 20:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | also they are moving on replaceing this with a snappy based one based on ubuntu 16.04 | Jan 29 20:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | tablet should get a update for that, but it seems my MX 4 phone may not, and the bq 4.5 which I don't really use anymore anyway wont | Jan 29 20:07 |
| razielle_tzu | ubuntu touch is not mature enough to do much imo | Jan 29 20:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well is and isn't | Jan 29 20:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but now its on a complete freeze except for bug fixses and seucrity updates | Jan 29 20:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whilst the nex major verison is being sorted out of it | Jan 29 20:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | means certain apps will have to be re done as snappy pakages as well, since this old click stuff is deprecated or will be | Jan 29 20:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, thats ashame though if the Meizu MX 4 can't just go forward with the times, since thats generally a quite nice phone hardwarewise | Jan 29 20:09 |
| oiaohm | The graphic driver update and video playblack black video playback on Linux is a generic problem. With VLC and most other Linux playblack programs you can force software rendering mode. | Jan 29 20:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok it can't do the screen to tv, hdmi stuff, but ah well. the didsplay adpater stuff | Jan 29 20:10 |
| oiaohm | Reason why I know this fault well is at times I have my desktop system running stuff that need to go for about 4 days. | Jan 29 20:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, right, but as mentioend above, can't just run vlc on ubuntu touch since.... | Jan 29 20:10 |
| oiaohm | So linux update in middle is grin and bare it. | Jan 29 20:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe this is the last time I am taking the Meizu MX 4 with me to Brussels, not sure yet | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I'll have reason enough, valid reasons enough, to buy a supported new UBuntu Phone in the next two years | Jan 29 20:11 |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Jan 29 20:11 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | adnd that's something else | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no new devices | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | until this snappy ubuntu stuff also known as ubuntu personal | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | is sorted out properly enough | Jan 29 20:12 |
| razielle_tzu | tbh right now i hold ubuntu phones in the same way i hold m$ phones.... pretty, decent hardware but kinda crappy still regardless | Jan 29 20:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well the os is limiting sure | Jan 29 20:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the os interface unity 8 is nice though :) | Jan 29 20:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, oh and those ubuntu phones, were really android phones | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so can actsaully put android on them to | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if wanting to | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | repacing it with android | Jan 29 20:13 |
| razielle_tzu | a nice ui doesn't save it when it limits what you can do when it's supposed to be a portable version of ubuntu | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or buy one with android first, and can probably put ubuntu touch on after replacing android | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, the app store the main app store is still lacking | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there's not that much in any catergy | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | games, graphics, etc etc | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but that should change when this new ubuntu snappy version should take over. old apps will die, or have to be re done so | Jan 29 20:14 |
| razielle_tzu | i've tested a few snapshots of touch and i find it sucked | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for example dekko the email client is dead in the old form | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but apparnatly moving on nicely in the newer snappy form | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | going by omgubuntu | Jan 29 20:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well if comparing it to recent android versions or ios, and wanting a load of apps as well, then yeah it isn't that good really | Jan 29 20:15 |
| razielle_tzu | nothing worked on the snapshot, i could connect to wifi but still couldn't do /anything/, no calls, camera didn't work, nothing could be updated | Jan 29 20:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Salifish os can do more, but my Jolla phone not coming to Brussels with me this year | Jan 29 20:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, uh on which device? | Jan 29 20:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | its mostly supported on the commrcail devices so | Jan 29 20:16 |
| oiaohm | You know when a platform is ready for use is wine vlc mainline talks about supporting it at least. | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | let's see... i tried it on my tab2, s3 mini (custom snapshot port) and my note | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | all of them were porterd by decent porters | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah bingo | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | devices that aren't supported | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | and literally nothing but wifi worked | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and not even by the unoffical ubports project it seems | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and so that's to be expected not much working there | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | a dev-locked snapshot worked but it was locked to the account of the dev that set it up | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah the unoffical ports | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | don't work so well | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in gneral it seems | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | except for those few where ubports say they mostly work | Jan 29 20:18 |
| razielle_tzu | the tab2 was on the list of supported devices but still had a lot of problems | Jan 29 20:18 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't know if it's still on the list | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if wanting ubuntu touch to work properly, need a commerical device really for now | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that I guess to may change with snappy and what not that is coming | Jan 29 20:19 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't like unity so why would i get a phone that uses it? | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I wasn't so keen on unity myself before | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but now I quite like it | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unity 7 and 8 | Jan 29 20:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I still like GNOME Shell, but find that more boring now as well so | Jan 29 20:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, can probably hack ubuntu touch to run other interfaces by the way | Jan 29 20:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I asked once | Jan 29 20:20 |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Jan 29 20:20 | |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: android-x86 that is a non google port so a unofficial shows something else. | Jan 29 20:20 |
| oiaohm | One of the biggest problems with unofficial ports is not clearly stating what percentage of the hardware they really support. | Jan 29 20:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah I guess | Jan 29 20:21 |
| oiaohm | Even official ports you can have that issue from time to time for different OSs. | Jan 29 20:22 |
| oiaohm | If you have like 70 hardware support but the remaining 30 percent is like the battery changing you are kinda stuffed. | Jan 29 20:22 |
| razielle_tzu | the images i tested were created by xda devs rather than people linked to ubuntu only, they're known for porting all kinds of stuff and getting it working but the devices i tested have had their images abandoned for three years now | Jan 29 20:22 |
| oiaohm | That is another issue with ports is people doing what are called one time ports with no interested in support them going forwards. We saw this first with netbook Linux unique OSs. | Jan 29 20:23 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah some wil lgive up | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | on porting | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's the thing with unoffical ports to | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no funding no porting | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | even ubuports is strugging for funding it seems | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in fact he would port full time as a job, if he had funding it seems | Jan 29 20:24 |
| oiaohm | No that logical fails when you look at android-x86 that has basically no funding. | Jan 29 20:24 |
| oiaohm | Difference is they did not attempt to do it solo. | Jan 29 20:25 |
| oiaohm | So a port without a group behind it will fail at some point. | Jan 29 20:25 |
| oiaohm | This is even true for Linux Distribution. | Jan 29 20:25 |
| oiaohm | So someone could write a set of rules to assess if you should go anywhere near a particular port or distribution. | Jan 29 20:26 |
| oiaohm | Thing to remember we have seen commercial distribution disappear for the same problem too small of group. | Jan 29 20:26 |
| razielle_tzu | or losing the people with key skills | Jan 29 20:27 |
| razielle_tzu | hmmm buy the codecs for the pi or not... | Jan 29 20:28 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: if you suffer from losing a key person and what you do is failing you development team was too small to start off with. | Jan 29 20:28 |
| razielle_tzu | i know but i've seen it happen | Jan 29 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so have I to som extent | Jan 29 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mageia uhmm | Jan 29 20:28 |
| razielle_tzu | they were looking for other people to add to the team but the main dev had to leave for various reasons before they could add anyone | Jan 29 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | main QA tester got a job | Jan 29 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's probably to do with the 6th release being delayed as well | Jan 29 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sommeone got quite ill as well who did things etc | Jan 29 20:29 |
| oiaohm | Its something that need to be addressed how projects in that case can be passed to some group who job is to find required projects a new team. | Jan 29 20:30 |
| razielle_tzu | no one wanted to pass it off to someone else but couldn't find anyone to pick it up so they just quit the project | Jan 29 20:30 |
| oiaohm | These problems happen with closed source software as well. So it a universal software development problem with no good problem. | Jan 29 20:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with no good solutions you mean ? | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and yeah h eh most people have no idea really | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | how compalcted software can be to make | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | main tain etc etc | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they just use what the companies sell them etc | Jan 29 20:31 |
| oiaohm | "No Good Problem" is having to tell person they have found a bit of software that does the task perfect but you cannot let them using because its not maintained so you have to tell them the program is no good. | Jan 29 20:32 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jan 29 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | Jan 29 20:36 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD slaps razielle_tzu around with big computers, running unity 8, untill they love it | Jan 29 20:37 | |
| *razielle_tzu stabs SebthreeBQM10HD in the kidneys | Jan 29 20:37 | |
| oiaohm | You hear the open source world talk about we have a problem open source lets you scratch itch. Then failure to consider teaming up with people with the same issue so 100 and 1 project doing the same thing but all them failing. | Jan 29 20:37 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD sends some snow to oiaohm in the post, non existen snow imaginaeyer snow, oh whoops it melted thats a wet parcel | Jan 29 20:38 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah thats ounds like linux :D | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, five file managers | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | five dm's | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc etc | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | three office suites or more | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh and a few thounsad or so distros as well | Jan 29 20:39 |
| oiaohm | If you look in Windows freeware you see the same problem. | Jan 29 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Except worse you have no source to start a team around it. | Jan 29 20:39 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD was showing a guy some interface choice at the LUG yesterday, ok might have confussed him a little, but he will be going mint or ubuntu it seems anyway, a new perosn | Jan 29 20:40 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yes lots of freeware out there for windows | Jan 29 20:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | random programs for this and that | Jan 29 20:40 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers there are 10 file managers for windows. | Jan 29 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Comparison of file managers - Wikipedia | Jan 29 20:41 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh? | Jan 29 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I knew like noe got ported or something, but | Jan 29 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think like one altenraive interface to | Jan 29 20:41 |
| oiaohm | Linux/bsd/unix have 17 all the same. | Jan 29 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, can't just go on your link, but is konquerer via kde for windows in the list :D ? | Jan 29 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ubuntu touch is a bit sucky uhmm | Jan 29 20:43 |
| oiaohm | That is in cross platform | Jan 29 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah well more so if offline, see why I will take the phone with me, but not the tablet :D ? | Jan 29 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, next weekend will be awsom or should be | Jan 29 20:43 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: notice 22 closed source file managers for windows that you are meant to pay for. | Jan 29 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, massive open souorce linux event in anothre country again : | Jan 29 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | d | Jan 29 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that going to | Jan 29 20:44 |
| oiaohm | At this point Linux fragmentation starts not long that bad. | Jan 29 20:44 |
| oiaohm | Most people totally ingore how fragmented closed source on windows is. | Jan 29 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah I guess | Jan 29 20:44 |
| oiaohm | https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/2rn775/best_tiled_window_manager_for_windows/ << most people not aware that you can change windows manager under windows and there are massive numbers of them. | Jan 29 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Best Tiled Window Manager for Windows? : windows [ http://ur1.ca/qer4z ] | Jan 29 20:46 | |
| oiaohm | Again a lot of them you are expected to pay to find out if they suit your need or not. | Jan 29 20:46 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: when you seriously look inside windows closed source for how munch fragmented it is. It surprising how light on fragmenting the open source world is. But its still fragmented too much. | Jan 29 20:50 |
| razielle_tzu | isn't the biggest fragmentation caused by the package types? | Jan 29 20:52 |
| razielle_tzu | everything else boils down to choice of the user | Jan 29 20:52 |
| oiaohm | You would think it would be package type but the answer is no. People forget the program alien exist that can convert package type. | Jan 29 20:53 |
| oiaohm | The biggest issue is dependency hell if you convert the package type the converted package fails due to dependency differences. | Jan 29 20:54 |
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| razielle_tzu | oh yeah, i forgot about that | Jan 29 20:54 |
| razielle_tzu | i can see why ubuntu going with snap would help reduce that but then you have all different versions of the same thing taking up space within the snap package | Jan 29 20:55 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/we-are-special | Jan 29 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - We Are Special | Jan 29 21:03 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, they have a way to make things smaller snapwise | Jan 29 21:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, an gnome has flatpack | Jan 29 21:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | UBuntu GNOME 17.04 alpha 2 can support it appatny to | Jan 29 21:10 |
| oiaohm | Biggest flatpak issue is Nvidia opengl driver still don't have a proper access method for it. | Jan 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | how dependent is it on systemd? | Jan 29 21:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://flatpak.org/faq.html#Is_Flatpak_tied_to_systemd_ Not at all it falls back to other options of systemd is not available. It was at first but the long term plan with flatpak always stated working with other solutions and they delivered. | Jan 29 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flatpak.org | Flatpak Frequently Asked Questions | Jan 29 21:20 | |
| MinceR | sure, but how workable is it in that case? | Jan 29 21:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks So it seems like when people of...' | Jan 29 21:24 | |
| oiaohm | flatpak is 100 percent workable on non systemd systems. https://github.com/projectatomic/bubblewrap this is want current flatpak depend on for cgroup sandboxes. | Jan 29 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - projectatomic/bubblewrap: Unprivileged sandboxing tool [ http://ur1.ca/qerbs ] | Jan 29 21:25 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so flatpak does not care if system has systemd or not. | Jan 29 21:25 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jan 29 21:26 |
| oiaohm | flatpak guys are considering supporting freebsd Linux emulation. | Jan 29 21:27 |
| oiaohm | that could in time include windows Linux emulation for bash for Linux. | Jan 29 21:27 |
| oiaohm | Opps | Jan 29 21:28 |
| oiaohm | bash for windows | Jan 29 21:28 |
| MinceR | provided m$ develops that into something usable, as opposed to just a tech demo | Jan 29 21:28 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember solarias has Linux emulation so do most Unix envornments as well. Linux userspace API was choosen and the Unix uniform API because the Unix guys could not agree to use each others for syscalls. | Jan 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | solaris is dying anyway | Jan 29 21:34 |
| MinceR | it had the fatal misfortune of being owned by Sun :> | Jan 29 21:34 |
| schestowitz | or made by it? | Jan 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | that's irrelevant | Jan 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | if it wasn't owned by sun, LawSuit Larry wouldn't have gotten his filthy hands on it | Jan 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | and therefore he wouldn't be able to destroy it | Jan 29 21:35 |
| oiaohm | http://0pointer.net/blog/avoiding-cve-2016-8655-with-systemd.html and we are starting to see systemd do what it promised. Of providing security restrictions to services no matter the LSM in usage. | Jan 29 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.net | Avoiding CVE-2016-8655 with systemd | Jan 29 21:40 | |
| MinceR | yeah, they restrict security pretty well | Jan 29 21:41 |
| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/thoughts_on_the_systemd_root_exploit | Jan 29 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | Thoughts on the Systemd Root Exploit [ http://ur1.ca/qereb ] | Jan 29 21:41 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we are quite a few versions past that one. | Jan 29 21:43 |
| MinceR | i wonder how many "stable" deployments of cancerd still have that version | Jan 29 21:43 |
| oiaohm | Its also interesting that that fault is only in exactly 1 version. | Jan 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure that was the last security hole on it | Jan 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | it's perfect now! | Jan 29 21:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-1999-1329/ << the said reality is cve number rate sysvinit and systemd are running about the same. | Jan 29 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cvedetails.com | CVE-1999-1329 : Buffer overflow in SysVInit in Red Hat Linux 5.1 and earlier allows local users to gain privileges. [ http://ur1.ca/qerf5 ] | Jan 29 21:45 | |
| oiaohm | Really we have not had people making init systems for a long time with decent grade of quality control. | Jan 29 21:46 |
| oiaohm | I was hoping openrc would have been a init system designed with decent quality control. | Jan 29 21:46 |
| MinceR | still trying to paint that blob of bloat as "an init system"? | Jan 29 21:46 |
| MinceR | one way to control quality would be to stop adding more and more crap on top while the basics still aren't worked out | Jan 29 21:47 |
| MinceR | simplicity, privilege separation | Jan 29 21:47 |
| oiaohm | You are right about basics. But the problem is one of the basics that is missing. Name me a good multi application IPC under Linux that is part of the Linux kernel. | Jan 29 21:50 |
| oiaohm | Its something missing completely from the Posix standard as well. | Jan 29 21:51 |
| MinceR | there was one, but i forgot the name | Jan 29 21:51 |
| MinceR | it was even suggested instead of kdbus | Jan 29 21:52 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure why it has to be in the kernel | Jan 29 21:52 |
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| MinceR | afaik the second excuse for kdbus was that they screwed up their virtualization and needed kernel code to help with ipc | Jan 29 21:52 |
| oiaohm | It was suggested then everyone found heck it was lacking privilege seperation it presumed all applications would be interacting at the same privilage. | Jan 29 21:52 |
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| MinceR | (the first of course being "we can't be arsed to profile our code, but we're sure it's slow because of ring switching overhead") | Jan 29 21:53 |
| oiaohm | dbus comes into existance in the first place because a type of IPC is missing. | Jan 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | dbus is userspace though | Jan 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | (also, badly designed, but that could be fixed, probably) | Jan 29 21:54 |
| oiaohm | dbus is decendant from other userspace attempts at that from of IPC. | Jan 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | ah, it was TIPC | Jan 29 21:56 |
| MinceR | http://tipc.sourceforge.net/ | Jan 29 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tipc.sourceforge.net | TIPC Home Page | Jan 29 21:56 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the other one http://tipc.sourceforge.net/features.shtml | Jan 29 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tipc.sourceforge.net | TIPC Features | Jan 29 22:02 | |
| oiaohm | TIPC is only designed to work when you have a network stack. | Jan 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | i wonder if you can still work without a network stack, considering dependencies in netlink and whatever | Jan 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | s/in/on/ | Jan 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | also, dbus needs a networks stack for unix domain sockets, doesn't it? | Jan 29 22:04 |
| oiaohm | TIPC is designed to require IP addresses.d | Jan 29 22:04 |
| oiaohm | dbus can use a local file socket without network addressing. | Jan 29 22:04 |
| oiaohm | Again using a local file socket this means kernel stuff like cgroups and LSM cannot clearly control what in heck is going on. | Jan 29 22:05 |
| MinceR | s/rks/rk/ | Jan 29 22:05 |
| oiaohm | The solution for sysvinit and before was hey lets make PID 1 special so it can block particular signals. | Jan 29 22:06 |
| oiaohm | and not bother exactly validating if user should be sending those signals to the init system. | Jan 29 22:07 |
| oiaohm | So this is just a horrible historic mess. | Jan 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | i was pretty sure whether you can send a signal to a process depended on your user id | Jan 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | and the process' user id | Jan 29 22:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, pm me | Jan 29 22:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ping | Jan 29 22:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit validation is basically all rights to control sysvinit or no rights to control sysvinit. This is not good when you might want to give a person the right to reboot a system but not the right to halt it. | Jan 29 22:11 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/7CwTih1.jpg | Jan 29 22:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that can be implemented outside sysvinit and outside the kernel | Jan 29 22:12 |
| MinceR | for example, via sudo | Jan 29 22:12 |
| MinceR | (or via policykit, but policykit is cancerous garbage) | Jan 29 22:12 |
| oiaohm | policykit is depending on dbus todo it. | Jan 29 22:12 |
| oiaohm | sudo you are depending on other layers of things todo it. | Jan 29 22:13 |
| MinceR | i thought i was only depending on setuid root, but whatever | Jan 29 22:13 |
| oiaohm | You run sudo you have to use a command to send message to sysvinit right and if that command has a bug sysvinit could recieve a different message. | Jan 29 22:14 |
| oiaohm | security the move moving parts the more likely something will go wrong. | Jan 29 22:15 |
| oiaohm | move should have been more | Jan 29 22:15 |
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| MinceR | i'm pretty sure both kill and telinit are much simpler than any component of systemd | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | and also much more mature | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | 29 231504 < oiaohm> security the move moving parts the more likely something will go wrong. | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | precisely | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | this is exactly why systemd is a huge security threat | Jan 29 22:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is missing it. telinit and kill might be simpler but then to use the thing you have people using sudo that has a run as root and other items like it. So user is having to lift privilege to send a message. Then in the process of lifting privillage you are partly hiding who is sending message. | Jan 29 22:26 |
| MinceR | regardless of how you're doing it, you're eventually going to control a process of higher privilege | Jan 29 22:26 |
| MinceR | it's literally what you wanted to do | Jan 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | as for who is sending the message, i'm pretty sure it can be logged | Jan 29 22:27 |
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| oiaohm | what you will see with sudo is root is logged as sending the shutdown/reboot message. | Jan 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | sudo doesn't know who used sudo to run the command? i really doubt that | Jan 29 22:28 |
| oiaohm | can get confusing when 2 users issue commands around the same time. | Jan 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | no, they get their own sudo process | Jan 29 22:29 |
| oiaohm | two users send shutdown what user in fact did the shutdown. Since the init logged root as the one doing it you don't know. | Jan 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | you can log who told init to do it | Jan 29 22:31 |
| MinceR | also, if it happened at the same time, it doesn't matter | Jan 29 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Problem is where sudo user change the value init log is user 0 | Jan 29 22:31 |
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| oiaohm | this is why you want a proper IPC so the user can message directly. And be filtered on what they can and cannot do. | Jan 29 22:31 |
| oiaohm | So you get solid logs for who is doing what. | Jan 29 22:32 |
| MinceR | this a is pretty weak argument for bloating init | Jan 29 22:32 |
| MinceR | also, iirc there are minimal inits where pid1 has practically no role in shutting down | Jan 29 22:33 |
| oiaohm | To get features into the Linux kernel you have to demonstrate usage. So this results in having to built a init using horible extras in PID 1 demoing how a IPC controlled init can work. | Jan 29 22:37 |
| oiaohm | So some of systemd nightmare is a particular form of IPC missing then having to work around it. | Jan 29 22:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and some of it is pure bloat and poor quality control. Remember systemd developers started with the idea they would make the demo then quickly get kdbus so then be able to throw a huge blocks of code away. | Jan 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | yay, cancerd exists to poison the kernel | Jan 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | that's a relief | Jan 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | remember that "quickly get kdbus" involved porting kdbus into the kernel with as little thinking as possible | Jan 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | why can't they wait with kernel features until they have a _legitimate_ use for them? | Jan 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | i.e. not a techdemo that is also an NSA backdoor | Jan 29 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Remember a feature will not appear in Linux kernel without a demoed usage. Does not matter if there is a legitimate reason for the feature. It why it took so long to get tipc included in the Linux kernel back then. | Jan 29 22:44 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is a chicken and egg problem with linux kernel development. | Jan 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | that the chicken and the egg are designing it, instead of software engineers? | Jan 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | i take that back, that's an insult to chickens and eggs | Jan 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is not designed software. | Jan 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is blocks of designed software stuck together. | Jan 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | If Linux kernel was designed software having 1000+ developers working on it at a time would be impossible. | Jan 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | and apparently also some crap in staging, like the hype-V thing with "/etc/init.d/networking restart" (or something very similar) hardcoded :> | Jan 29 22:47 |
| oiaohm | So some of systemd is the Linux kernel development model. | Jan 29 22:48 |
| MinceR | seems more accurate to say "some of the Linux kernel development is the systemd development model" | Jan 29 22:49 |
| oiaohm | Please not the Linux kernel development model current one goes back to 1995 | Jan 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | not/note | Jan 29 22:50 |
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| MinceR | EXTERMINATE! | Jan 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | So the nightmare development model of systemd well and truly predates it. | Jan 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Like kdbus failed but the memfd part of kdbus made it and has sorted out some issues that were being hacked around with file sockets. | Jan 29 22:51 |
| oiaohm | So kdbus had some minor success that part made it. | Jan 29 22:51 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder how unstable and insecure that part will make Linux | Jan 29 22:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you watched the lca2017 video on the Linux kernel documentation how it was organised. | Jan 29 22:52 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 29 22:53 |
| oiaohm | And to be correct currently still is orgnaised to a point. | Jan 29 22:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY_C-Z0qMSo It is a 45 min video. Linux kernel documentation historic has total lack of design and organisation. | Jan 29 22:55 |
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| oiaohm | Linux kernel documentation the mess it has been would be totally not acceptable in a designed project. | Jan 29 22:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you want to see a project working from a design model you look at python https://www.python.org/dev/peps/ where to add a new feature you put in a formal documented request when approved you code. | Jan 29 23:00 |
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| MinceR | yeah, i've seen a few of those | Jan 29 23:00 |
| oiaohm | You will see with Linux kernel in lots of cases documenting after the feature is in the Linux kernel. | Jan 29 23:01 |
| oiaohm | So the Linux kernel world is code and demo feature get it into staging then clean the code up to quality. | Jan 29 23:02 |
| oiaohm | Then maybe document it. | Jan 29 23:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: does not that work flow sound a lot like systemd | Jan 29 23:02 |
| MinceR | i don't see the "force everyone in the world to use and depend on your demo" step, though | Jan 29 23:03 |
| MinceR | perhaps the ratcrap BoD needs to be reminded that it isn't a real step? | Jan 29 23:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have a short memory. Example of top of head when Linux kernel on x86 changed from 8k memory blocks to 4k memory blocks on x86 so breaking nvidia drivers and the like. | Jan 29 23:05 |
| MinceR | so? | Jan 29 23:05 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel has changed features in past and said stuff it. | Jan 29 23:06 |
| oiaohm | who push the 8k to 4k change none other than Redhat. | Jan 29 23:06 |
| MinceR | when did they break userspace? | Jan 29 23:06 |
| oiaohm | 8k to 4k change did break some userspace applications. | Jan 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | then go tell Linus he's a hypocrite | Jan 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | please link the mail in the archive so i can see the fireworks | Jan 29 23:07 |
| oiaohm | It was fireworks Linus said that Linux kernel had not formally promised a page side in fact the documentation stated the other way so everyone could suck it up. | Jan 29 23:08 |
| oiaohm | http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/page_sizes.html on page sizes Linus is all over the place. | Jan 29 23:13 |
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| cubexyz | package types, bah | Jan 30 02:39 |
| cubexyz | use tarballs :) | Jan 30 02:40 |
| cubexyz | when I ported a bunch of stuff to zaurus it was all from tarballs | Jan 30 02:46 |
| cubexyz | it's better not to get too dependent on packages | Jan 30 02:47 |
| cubexyz | by all means use them if they are available | Jan 30 02:48 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I just noticed something a bit odd | Jan 30 02:54 |
| cubexyz | some of the files in /var/log have time stamps of 1999 and 1996 | Jan 30 02:55 |
| oiaohm | that is odd. | Jan 30 02:56 |
| cubexyz | ksyms.1, ksyms.2, ksyms.3 etc | Jan 30 02:56 |
| cubexyz | sometime is logging ksyms | Jan 30 02:59 |
| cubexyz | something | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | what system is this. | Jan 30 02:59 |
| cubexyz | FC1 | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | because it really old to log ksyms | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | odd not old. | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Hmm that would not be kernel opps logs. | Jan 30 03:01 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what program is doing the logging | Jan 30 03:02 |
| cubexyz | klogd I guess? | Jan 30 03:03 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't think any of my other computers log that | Jan 30 03:05 |
| oiaohm | I find it mentioned in a 1999 list of log files and marked as not readable by humans. | Jan 30 03:05 |
| cubexyz | I'll host one of the files and you can look at it | Jan 30 03:06 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 30 03:07 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ksyms.0 | Jan 30 03:07 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: its a feature that disappears while we were not looking. | Jan 30 03:08 |
| cubexyz | preservation :) | Jan 30 03:08 |
| oiaohm | there use to be a /dev/ksyms and tools to access it until it was found how it could be used to breach a kernel. | Jan 30 03:09 |
| cubexyz | it looks like ASCII, I'm just using vi to look at it | Jan 30 03:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: modern /dev/ksyms in Linux hides at /proc/kallsyms | Jan 30 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Same ascii information without the tools. | Jan 30 03:12 |
| cubexyz | ah I see | Jan 30 03:12 |
| cubexyz | no logging though | Jan 30 03:12 |
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| oiaohm | /dev/ksyms was basically under linux snooping the elf information making up the linux kernel. | Jan 30 03:12 |
| oiaohm | So was giving away a bit more infomation than just the symbols. | Jan 30 03:13 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is the thing when you go back to some of the really old systems there are item that are gone for very good reasons. | Jan 30 03:14 |
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| schestowitz | > x | Jan 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-microsoft-corporation-will-put-1-billion-into-cyber-security-msft-cm739843 | Jan 30 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | > one can only expect that this means moving to the FreeBSD kernel and | Jan 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | > user space with a tricked-out KDE GUI :P | Jan 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe they means NATIONAL security, i.e. spreading Good{tm} back doors. | Jan 30 10:33 |
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| MinceR | it probably means they'll spend that $1 million on _advertising_ how secure their crap is | Jan 30 12:06 |
| oiaohm | To attempt to perform a security audit on the size of the windows OS code base requires more than 1 billion dollars. | Jan 30 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: First the code base, then the security audit :). | Jan 30 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | Closed source audits are much more useless (for the regular user). | Jan 30 12:09 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll find a way to call something much cheaper "an audit" | Jan 30 12:09 |
| MinceR | (also useless, obviously) | Jan 30 12:09 |
| XRevan86 | Because Microsoft can re-spin security issues as backdoors. | Jan 30 12:09 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: wish I had the link for the calculated price tag to audit the Linux kernel. | Jan 30 12:09 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Estimated_cost_to_redevelop the audit cost is about the same cost to redevelop the thing. So Linux kernel a full audit is about 3 billion dollars. | Jan 30 12:12 |
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| oiaohm | Remember Microsoft allows closed source drivers so cannot audit everything no matter what. | Jan 30 12:13 |
| oiaohm | https://sel4.systems/Info/Docs/GD-NICTA-whitepaper.pdf when you look at the audit process of sel4 you find the audit cost is double to 6 times the cost of normal development. | Jan 30 12:15 |
| oiaohm | It all a question of how much you pay developers the first time around. | Jan 30 12:17 |
| oiaohm | High quality software is down right expensive. | Jan 30 12:17 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: But if Finland is to be annexed, how will some people be able to cargo some unique EU things from Finland to St. Petersburg? | Jan 30 13:48 |
| MinceR | as if these tyrants cared about that | Jan 30 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What do they care about? | Jan 30 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | Especially something they can find in Finland %). | Jan 30 13:52 |
| MinceR | themselves | Jan 30 13:52 |
| MinceR | commie leaders imported western products for their own use, doesn't mean they let their enslaved population do the same | Jan 30 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In my apartment there used to be a television set "Sharp". | Jan 30 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | back from early 80s | Jan 30 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | A TV that served more than 20 years. They don't make things like they used to :D. | Jan 30 13:56 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, it wasn't bought in a store. It was shipped to the country, legally. | Jan 30 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | USSR had somewhat like 4 periods in its existence. It seems unfair to just smash them all together and call everyone Stalin. | Jan 30 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | Only around 70 years and so much happened, yeah. | Jan 30 14:07 |
| MinceR | it's even more unfair to pretend it was all just peachy and force such a regime on everyone | Jan 30 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Good thing nobody does that. | Jan 30 14:08 |
| MinceR | many people do that nowadays | Jan 30 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nobody wants USSR exactly how it was to the millimetre. | Jan 30 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Every form of government has it advantages and disadvantages. | Jan 30 14:12 |
| *XRevan86 will be back in around half an hour. | Jan 30 14:13 | |
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| XRevan86 | Half an hour, how unintentionally punctual of me :). | Jan 30 14:43 |
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| MinceR | yeah, for example, putain wants it with the state religion replaced | Jan 30 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What replaced? | Jan 30 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | The Isaac's Cathedral? | Jan 30 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | There's a bit of a thing going on around it. | Jan 30 17:09 |
| MinceR | cult of personality (lenin, stalin, marx, etc.) replaced with christianity + cult of personality (putler) | Jan 30 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Cult of personality is what Stalin did around the figure of Lenin and somewhat around himself. | Jan 30 17:11 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/TVQWc | Jan 30 17:11 |
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| XRevan86 | Putin doesn't even try. | Jan 30 17:11 |
| MinceR | so the cult just emerged on its own? | Jan 30 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Where's the cult? | Jan 30 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | I don't see portraits of Putin in houses for instance. | Jan 30 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | The only places that are full of Putin are souvenir shops for some reason %). | Jan 30 17:13 |
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| MinceR | i see plenty of photos of putain being shared | Jan 30 17:13 |
| MinceR | and photos of souvenirs, yes | Jan 30 17:14 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The West just doesn't count. | Jan 30 17:14 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Because with The West the message would be "somebody wants people to remember who Putin is". | Jan 30 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | in The West | Jan 30 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | And souvenirs – that's business, they make junk tourists are willing to buy. | Jan 30 17:16 |
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| MinceR | yes, but why are tourists willing to buy that? | Jan 30 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | pink ushankas, matroshkas, etc. | Jan 30 17:16 |
| MinceR | vlad figurines | Jan 30 17:17 |
| MinceR | pink? is that even legal in russia? | Jan 30 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Probably not because they watched russian domestic television. | Jan 30 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bad taste is not outlawed yet. | Jan 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, they instead read putain's propaganda online | Jan 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | afaik being gay or at least using symbols thereof is outlawed | Jan 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | "gay propaganda" | Jan 30 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In St. Petersburg there's something like that. | Jan 30 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Having a gay flag is probably not in the list of outlawed thing. | Jan 30 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | I've seen people with gay badges. Not in prison %). | Jan 30 17:22 |
| MinceR | so what did the government do at the olympics? | Jan 30 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Also, the law is all about "think of the children!" so 18+ places can still gay-propagate to any extent. | Jan 30 17:23 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't expect consistency from fundies | Jan 30 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Basically, if you don't make a fuss, nobody cares. | Jan 30 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how Russia works. | Jan 30 17:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, shut up, lay low, and do your slave work quietly for vlad | Jan 30 17:30 |
| MinceR | freedom of speech is something that happens to other people (but not for long) | Jan 30 17:30 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dXg5TwH.jpg | Jan 30 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Sounds closer to reality than your original statement :). | Jan 30 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | > slave work for vlad | Jan 30 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | That's an interesting spin on taxes. | Jan 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | not just taxes, also everything being owned by vlad, the totalitarian state, or oligarchs owned by vlad | Jan 30 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | If you count the US as a totalitarian state (not because of the newly-elected), then I guess so. | Jan 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | i didn't, but it's turning into that | Jan 30 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | [12:09] <XRevan86> Because Microsoft can re-spin security issues as backdoors. | Jan 30 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Usually the other way around | Jan 30 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a fruitful relationship between security issues and back doors :). | Jan 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 30 19:14 |
| MinceR | security issues and backdoors thrive while your rights are destroyed and your resources taken away | Jan 30 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | sabotage of PCs of people="accident" | Jan 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | [19:03] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/N755G9f.jpg | Jan 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Yes, as if liking someone is a "big dead" | Jan 30 19:18 |
| schestowitz | problems of 21st century gurls [sic] | Jan 30 19:18 |
| schestowitz | with their FB account and "cell" phone | Jan 30 19:18 |
| MinceR | deady issues | Jan 30 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/826091835147816962 | Jan 30 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz But even so, software patents are generally incomprehensible and lack novelty for any developer skilled in the art. | Jan 30 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: this is why we'll go extinct sooner than I thought | Jan 30 19:20 |
| MinceR | maybe | Jan 30 19:22 |
| MinceR | http://loldongs.dk/img/MjAxNy0wMS0xNSAxNTowOTowNw_MTA0LjIwNy44NC4zOQ.jpeg | Jan 30 19:22 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 30 20:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Jan 30 20:22 |
| razielle_tzu | hai | Jan 30 20:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well this is disapointing the first two minutes or so are missing from that speech. so the build up the jokey stuff etc | Jan 30 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | missing from video | Jan 30 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe he took that out himself for some reason, or forgot to record in time, but hmm | Jan 30 20:25 |
| razielle_tzu | it happens | Jan 30 20:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, also I am being a bit chicken just now at watching it with sound on my headset | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Punctuation matters | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://loldongs.dk/img/MjAxNy0wMS0xNSAxNTowOTowNw_MTA0LjIwNy44NC4zOQ.jpeg | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Unless it was a #trump supporter ^_^ | Jan 30 20:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, but who likes there own voice etc anyway? | Jan 30 20:27 |
| razielle_tzu | i know a few people that do | Jan 30 20:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and ill look like a geek or whatever to i guess | Jan 30 20:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but i guess thats me then | Jan 30 20:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, so stand still to. in a way should move around ore, but not ike some of them | Jan 30 20:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 30 20:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | MinceR, yes? | Jan 30 20:36 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 30 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826166401966755840 | Jan 30 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Typoman: Revised is coming to Linux & SteamOS and they | Jan 30 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | require Beta testers https://t.co/J4I57ke61C | Jan 30 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Typoman: Revised is coming to Linux & SteamOS and they require Beta testers | GamingOnLinux | Jan 30 20:44 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1462.html | Jan 30 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Jan 30 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edrollo/status/826170897086238722 | Jan 30 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edrollo: @schestowitz So you pull out one tweet and it's supposed to shape national policy? So weak. | Jan 30 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/6TGML | Jan 30 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instant regret dump - Album on Imgur | Jan 30 20:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | We're looking for Ubuntu 17.04 wallpapers right now! | Jan 30 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaines.livejournal.com | We're looking for Ubuntu 17.04 wallpapers right now! - Nathan's Journal | Jan 30 21:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Vendetta Online MMORPG Gets New Gamepad Configuration UI | Jan 30 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Android, More https://t.co/6YXhqcfIYx | Jan 30 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Applications Begin Appearing In The Ubuntu Snap Store | Jan 30 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux | Jan 30 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux Gaming Tests - Phoronix | Jan 30 21:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new | Jan 30 21:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 30 21:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GhostBSD 11.0 PREALPHA4 is ready for testing | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new notebook | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mint 18.1 KDE & Xfce, Bodhi 4.1.0, | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pkN74GrlAt (www.kernel.org) RIP | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 18.1 KDE & Xfce, Bodhi 4.1.0, ftp.kernel.org RIP | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux | Jan 30 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | You Can Play DOOM (2016) and Hitman: Absolution on Linux | Jan 30 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Wine Staging 2.0 https://t.co/UlqAliy1q4 | Jan 30 21:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | You Can Play DOOM (2016) and Hitman: Absolution on Linux with Wine Staging 2.0 | Jan 30 21:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.8.2 Security Fix Improves the Linux Application | Jan 30 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sandboxing Framework https://t.co/h0EPLVsQkp | Jan 30 21:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826178577154572289 | Jan 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU Winsys Gets Minor Optimization From Pitoiset | Jan 30 21:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU Winsys Gets Minor Optimization From Pitoiset - Phoronix | Jan 30 21:22 | |
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| schestowitz | More on Shiva http://fossforce.com/2017/01/man-didnt-invent-email-attacks-free-speech/ | Jan 30 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | The Man Who Didn't Invent Email Attacks Free Speech | FOSS Force | Jan 30 21:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi | Jan 30 21:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:49 | |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/826153579991937026 | Jan 30 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoguePOTUSStaff: Rumors are true. Expect by end of the week. https://t.co/Mx89ZaY4ND | Jan 30 22:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@devchelle: @RoguePOTUSStaff there are rumors of anti LGBT EO coming. Can you shed light on that? | Jan 30 22:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distro: Final Round of Voting Has Begun | Jan 30 23:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Now Available for 32-Bit | Jan 30 23:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch OTA-15 Hotfix Update Could Land Soon for | Jan 30 23:37 |
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| MinceR | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/01/30/2241256/lgs-ultrafine-5k-display-becomes-useless-when-its-within-two-meters-of-a-router | Jan 31 02:03 |
| MinceR | letting crApple "engineers" touch an LG product had its effect, as could be predicted | Jan 31 02:04 |
| cubexyz | huh? | Jan 31 02:04 |
| cubexyz | 5k? | Jan 31 02:04 |
| cubexyz | I didn't realize 5K was a thing | Jan 31 02:04 |
| MinceR | i didn't either | Jan 31 02:04 |
| MinceR | i hope this won't affect future LG products | Jan 31 02:05 |
| cubexyz | LG kind of sucks anyways | Jan 31 02:05 |
| cubexyz | No service manual for the RH938 | Jan 31 02:05 |
| cubexyz | er... RH398 | Jan 31 02:05 |
| MinceR | dunno, i have an LG monitor tv and i'm mostly satisfied with it | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | the monitors might be OK | Jan 31 02:06 |
| MinceR | except that it tends to turn certain pale blues into violets | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | it's there DVD recorder I'm fighting with | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | s/there/their/ | Jan 31 02:06 |
| MinceR | dvd writer? | Jan 31 02:06 |
| MinceR | or video recorder? | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | consumer device... one of those stand-alone DVD recorders | Jan 31 02:07 |
| cubexyz | for TVs | Jan 31 02:07 |
| MinceR | i don't really see the point of those | Jan 31 02:07 |
| cubexyz | ah, a friend of mine wanted help with it | Jan 31 02:07 |
| cubexyz | not mine :) | Jan 31 02:07 |
| MinceR | well, except i suppose if you're recording from tv, it might have a tuner that sucks less than tv tuners for pc-s | Jan 31 02:07 |
| MinceR | i bought this monitor tv because i got sick of trying to get a picture out of tuner cards/boxes | Jan 31 02:08 |
| cubexyz | it's mostly a black box, especially without any service manual | Jan 31 02:08 |
| MinceR | and it worked | Jan 31 02:08 |
| cubexyz | maybe LG's monitors are OK, I haven't had one apart yet | Jan 31 02:09 |
| MinceR | they had the distinction of offering actual subpixel warranty, which was very rare at the time, at least in hungary | Jan 31 02:10 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5K_resolution there is a reason why us PC users don't talk about 5k. 5k does not work over DVI. 4K is the highest over DVI. Then it displayport, HDMI or thunderbolt | Jan 31 02:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 02:10 |
| cubexyz | is anyone broadcasting in 5K? | Jan 31 02:10 |
| MinceR | HDMI and DP are fine, imo | Jan 31 02:10 |
| MinceR | i don't have thunderbolt yet | Jan 31 02:10 |
| cubexyz | I thought 8K would be the next step up, but surprise... 5K | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | though that kinda surprises me | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | considering that afaik DVI and HDMI use the same protocol | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | just different connectors | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | (that is, DVI-D) | Jan 31 02:11 |
| cubexyz | what is bluray res again? | Jan 31 02:11 |
| cubexyz | 1920x1080? | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | i think so | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | it isn't specific to bluray though, it's just fullhd | Jan 31 02:12 |
| cubexyz | so they'll need a successor to bluray as well :) | Jan 31 02:12 |
| cubexyz | to handle 4K and beyond | Jan 31 02:12 |
| oiaohm | blueray does have 4k discs. | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | i think that's called 'streaming' | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | with DRM, of course | Jan 31 02:12 |
| oiaohm | I have not seen 5k or 8k in blueray yet. | Jan 31 02:13 |
| cubexyz | do you need a special bluray 4K player for that or...? | Jan 31 02:13 |
| oiaohm | Ok there is a 8k disc https://www.engadget.com/2008/10/24/baraka-first-ever-8k-hd-restoration-blu-ray-disc-gets-ship-date/ | Jan 31 02:14 |
| cubexyz | ah, there's ultra hd blu-ray players | Jan 31 02:14 |
| MinceR | baraka, from mortal kombat? :> | Jan 31 02:14 |
| oiaohm | 8k media is quite rare. | Jan 31 02:14 |
| oiaohm | Free to air TV most of those cap out at the standard 1920x1080 | Jan 31 02:15 |
| oiaohm | And if you don't want to eat internet bandwidth from hell you normally stop at that point as well on internet stuff. | Jan 31 02:15 |
| cubexyz | I think Europe has a FTA 4K shopping channel | Jan 31 02:16 |
| MinceR | ooh, a shopping channel | Jan 31 02:17 |
| MinceR | in 2017 :> | Jan 31 02:17 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 31 02:17 |
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| cubexyz | I guess everyone heard about HMV going bust | Jan 31 02:19 |
| cubexyz | no surprise | Jan 31 02:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://eftm.com.au/2016/11/finally-all-the-free-to-air-channels-in-hd-33099 << Like here in Australia if a free to air decide to broadcast a 4k channel they have no more radio bandwidth left. | Jan 31 02:19 |
| cubexyz | interesting | Jan 31 02:20 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of HMV | Jan 31 02:20 |
| oiaohm | So broadcasting 5k anytime soon in Australia is absolutely not going to happen. | Jan 31 02:20 |
| cubexyz | makes me wonder what happens to all the old HDTVs | Jan 31 02:21 |
| oiaohm | Settop box fix. | Jan 31 02:22 |
| oiaohm | HDTV still has a hdmi port still able to take 1920x1080 so stick a settop box on top of tv that knows the mpeg4 instead of the other encoding and they are working fine. | Jan 31 02:23 |
| cubexyz | there's some FTA satellite stuff, haven't set that up as yet | Jan 31 02:23 |
| oiaohm | FTA satelite has the same issue to fit channels in you have bandwidth limits. | Jan 31 02:23 |
| cubexyz | Eulelsat 7 and a bunch of other ones | Jan 31 02:24 |
| oiaohm | Reality is 4k is down right huge. | Jan 31 02:24 |
| oiaohm | and 8k is in the area of scary. | Jan 31 02:24 |
| cubexyz | Eutelsat 7 | Jan 31 02:24 |
| oiaohm | A 8k broadcast would take almost all the bandwidth space 4 of the 5 public tv networks in Australia. | Jan 31 02:24 |
| cubexyz | maybe use higher frequencies? | Jan 31 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Radio spectrum has to be bought. | Jan 31 02:25 |
| oiaohm | To be correct leased. | Jan 31 02:25 |
| oiaohm | the more you want the more you have to pay. | Jan 31 02:26 |
| cubexyz | there's EHF | Jan 31 02:26 |
| cubexyz | don't know if they can use that for TV though | Jan 31 02:26 |
| cubexyz | ah, too short of a range | Jan 31 02:26 |
| oiaohm | And as a commercial user you have to pay for EHF space. | Jan 31 02:27 |
| oiaohm | For the money you can make from advertising for a free to air tv 4K is very questionable 8k is up in the point of not possible. | Jan 31 02:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes home shopping doing 4k they are basically wall to wall advertisement. | Jan 31 02:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah no thanks :) | Jan 31 02:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes wall to wall adveristment is basically what is required to cover the costs at 4k and make a profit. At 8k where you need to make 4x more is kinda stuffed area. | Jan 31 02:30 |
| oiaohm | So other than channels I will not want to watch I don't expect to see 4k at least for another 10 years and 8k most likely not in my life time as free to air. | Jan 31 02:31 |
| cubexyz | Canada didn't even switch to ATSC until 2011 | Jan 31 02:32 |
| cubexyz | we even have one analog channel still | Jan 31 02:33 |
| cubexyz | CHEX-TV2 | Jan 31 02:33 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like having 4 different standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T#/media/File:Digital_broadcast_standards.svg | Jan 31 02:33 |
| MinceR | the great thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from | Jan 31 02:35 |
| MinceR | (though m$ prefers the thing about them that they can all be ignored yet their names can be used for advertisement) | Jan 31 02:36 |
| oiaohm | What is kinda evil in Australia is half the historic free to air radio space was taken away for wireless broadband 4g after the change to digital tv. | Jan 31 02:42 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's evil about that | Jan 31 02:43 |
| MinceR | wireless broadband seems much more useful than broadcast tv | Jan 31 02:43 |
| cubexyz | a free service displaced with a pay service... | Jan 31 02:44 |
| cubexyz | unless there's free 4g which I doubt | Jan 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | an outdated dinosaur of a service wasting bandwidth displaced with a useful service :> | Jan 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | also, do they not tax you for tv in australia? | Jan 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | is there none of that tv license madness that goes on in the uk? | Jan 31 02:44 |
| cubexyz | not in Canada at least | Jan 31 02:54 |
| cubexyz | don't know about Australia | Jan 31 02:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 02:55 |
| cubexyz | actually I think they used to have a tv tax but it was abolished | Jan 31 02:55 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#Australia | Jan 31 02:56 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 31 02:56 |
| MinceR | so it's paid by government grants, i.e. taxes | Jan 31 02:58 |
| MinceR | therefore it's not "free" | Jan 31 02:58 |
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| cubexyz | I don't like how some distros are phasing out 32-bit | Jan 31 03:08 |
| MinceR | maybe the next systemd will require a more powerful cpu than any of the 32bit-only ones | Jan 31 03:11 |
| MinceR | or will just require more than 4GB RAM | Jan 31 03:11 |
| MinceR | it is the One Microsoft Way, after all | Jan 31 03:11 |
| cubexyz | well, eventually my own distro is probably in the cards | Jan 31 03:14 |
| cubexyz | only way to be sure I get what I want | Jan 31 03:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 03:14 |
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| cubexyz | with the gtk stuff they kept making the nroff man pages for applications | Jan 31 03:21 |
| cubexyz | but not the KDE stuff | Jan 31 03:21 |
| cubexyz | well, some of the gtk stuff at least | Jan 31 03:21 |
| MinceR | kde had the khelpcenter, iirc | Jan 31 03:22 |
| MinceR | html-based | Jan 31 03:22 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 31 03:22 |
| cubexyz | glabels, gkrellm... they had nroff man pages | Jan 31 03:22 |
| cubexyz | I guess I could just make some nroff man pages for KDE programs | Jan 31 03:23 |
| cubexyz | when I write a motif app I made a man page for it | Jan 31 03:29 |
| cubexyz | in the olden days you could "man mwm" | Jan 31 03:30 |
| MinceR | i never made manpages | Jan 31 03:30 |
| cubexyz | wasn't universe though | Jan 31 03:30 |
| cubexyz | wasn't universal | Jan 31 03:30 |
| MinceR | often i just write usage in the top lines of the application code :> | Jan 31 03:31 |
| cubexyz | did you ever write any motif stuff? | Jan 31 03:31 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 31 03:33 |
| MinceR | my first unix application with gui was based on Qt, i think | Jan 31 03:34 |
| MinceR | then i did a bit of GTK+, then went back to Qt | Jan 31 03:34 |
| MinceR | though now i prefer ncurses if it's sufficient for the app | Jan 31 03:34 |
| cubexyz | ah | Jan 31 03:34 |
| cubexyz | yeah I'm looking into ncurses applications | Jan 31 03:35 |
| cubexyz | iptraf is very useful | Jan 31 03:52 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/FYvkq | Jan 31 04:04 |
| cubexyz | the whole right/left thing is tedious | Jan 31 04:06 |
| cubexyz | US didn't do enough to keep manufacturing jobs | Jan 31 04:07 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 31 04:07 |
| MinceR | especially when it's the authoritarian side that's winning hard | Jan 31 04:08 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual | Jan 31 04:23 |
| MinceR | fundamentalism in the uk | Jan 31 04:23 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality is systemd is being used in some embedded systems with less than 128megs of ram. | Jan 31 05:03 |
| cubexyz | uh, why? | Jan 31 05:04 |
| cubexyz | why in the world would you use systemd in a space constrained system? | Jan 31 05:05 |
| oiaohm | Turns out systemd as a service manager works very well. Ie detect that a service has died and automatically restart it and other things like that. | Jan 31 05:06 |
| cubexyz | I figured embedded would use busybox or something similar | Jan 31 05:07 |
| oiaohm | http://she-devel.com/ELC_systemd.pdf If you read down here you notice service watchdogs and other highly useful items like that. | Jan 31 05:08 |
| oiaohm | busybox init solution and sysvinit does really include those features. | Jan 31 05:08 |
| cubexyz | busybox runs on my TV and I've never had any problems | Jan 31 05:10 |
| cubexyz | uh, beyond replacing the timer controller... but that's hardware | Jan 31 05:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd memory footprint is 10 megs in the embeded usage. So for all the talk about systemd being really huge on memory the reality is it not exactly light but its not exactly heavy either. | Jan 31 05:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure it's a lot bigger than busybox | Jan 31 05:13 |
| cubexyz | so no thanks | Jan 31 05:13 |
| cubexyz | of course you'll need to research things carefully to even know what you get | Jan 31 05:14 |
| oiaohm | If you are needing to watchdog services you need to add like deamontools on to busybox then that does not have cgroups ... Basically once you need to watchdog services and have to restart them when they fail systemd starts looking light. | Jan 31 05:14 |
| oiaohm | If what you are building you don't need to watchdog stuff and be sure to kill all of a failed service then using systemd is heavy. | Jan 31 05:15 |
| oiaohm | Worst part is the old sysvinit with is multi levels of running scripts could exceed on some systems 20 megs of ram. | Jan 31 05:16 |
| oiaohm | So systemd and sysvinit what one heavier depends on what they are running. | Jan 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | For a reason why systems need more than 4G of ram you would be better off looking at blaming web browers and the like. The reality is the ram usage by init systems is almost insignificant even what would be classed as heavy init systems. | Jan 31 05:21 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think some of the TVs were in the 128 meg of ram range | Jan 31 05:29 |
| cubexyz | there's even some TVs that run FreeBSD | Jan 31 05:30 |
| cubexyz | not that I've ever got in | Jan 31 05:30 |
| cubexyz | maybe one could get XMBC running or something | Jan 31 05:35 |
| oiaohm | some of the smart tv are in the 1 to 4 G range | Jan 31 05:38 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, my TV doesn't need systemd :) | Jan 31 11:35 |
| cubexyz | what's next, toaster with systemd? | Jan 31 11:36 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I did not say everything required it. If you have a usage case that you do need to watchdog the services. Like a fridge monitoring system you don't want that failing to function and not be noticed. | Jan 31 11:44 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically what is the worst that going to happen if software in a TV locks up. Then think what is the worst that is going to happen if same thing happens in something like a fridge. A toaster does ask some questions if that should be too far automated due to fire risk. | Jan 31 11:47 |
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| cubexyz | that's the thing | Jan 31 11:49 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't | Jan 31 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Lot of fridges in shopping centers are networked with central monitoring to report failures before you have people getting bad food. | Jan 31 11:50 |
| oiaohm | So the fridge case there is a real world requirement of course you are not going to see a fancy interface on it. | Jan 31 11:51 |
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| cubexyz | I'm kind of wondering why Sony even used busybox | Jan 31 11:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its like the same reason they funded development of toybox. That wanted something to init the system. | Jan 31 11:59 |
| oiaohm | I find the toybox busybox split so stupid most usage of busybox and toybox are using the Linux kernel that is GPL anyhow so GPL conformance should have been normal. | Jan 31 12:00 |
| schestowitz | [11:36] <cubexyz> what's next, toaster with systemd? | Jan 31 12:21 |
| schestowitz | You're missing out | Jan 31 12:21 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/toaster-manual/toaster-manual.html << I could have made a embedded joke. Yes the automated build system for one of the embedded Linux forms is called toaster. | Jan 31 12:28 |
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| cubexyz | I just noticed that my cdrom is really loud | Jan 31 12:42 |
| cubexyz | I'm playing an audio cd and it's like WHHHHHHIIRRRRRRRRRRR | Jan 31 12:43 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: the reality is that as ill-designed bloated systems grow, their hardware requirements grow as well | Jan 31 13:49 |
| MinceR | also, this pretense of systemd being flawless is amusing | Jan 31 13:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I am saying systemd is flawless. If you go over the years of different embedded conference presentations using systemd some how its embedded memory foot print in shrinking. | Jan 31 13:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is just one of those thing where the numbers from those using it are not adding up to what a lot are presuming. | Jan 31 13:57 |
| MinceR | yeah and microsoft says that they've made windows faster and lighter too | Jan 31 13:57 |
| oiaohm | This is not like Microsoft saying this. this is people making embedded solutions finding they need less now to run systemd than 12 month ago and even less than 2 years ago. | Jan 31 13:59 |
| oiaohm | So maybe systemd is starting to clean up sections of it code base? | Jan 31 13:59 |
| MinceR | have they stopped adding additional roles to systemd? i doubt it | Jan 31 14:03 |
| MinceR | (especially when you consider that they have yet to "standardize" the package manager, which would be a big blow to the distributions they're trying to destroy) | Jan 31 14:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bit of looking at systemd patches over those years a lot of memory leaks and fails to free when not need for time frame have been fixed. | Jan 31 14:04 |
| oiaohm | So it could be that the additional roles are not using more ram that what has been recovered by fixing the bugs. | Jan 31 14:05 |
| MinceR | i wonder what will reboot those embedded systems when systemd's memory leaks keep them from functioning :> | Jan 31 14:06 |
| oiaohm | hardware watchdog in most cases. | Jan 31 14:06 |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/npc/tale/26-16/ | Jan 31 14:08 |
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| oiaohm | Allocate then use once then leave allocated for a long time frame then first action rewrite. Those kind of bugs are just pointlessly holding an allocation. | Jan 31 14:08 |
| oiaohm | so you have leaks and pointlessly holding allocations in different systemd parts being fixed. | Jan 31 14:08 |
| MinceR | also, just pointlessly using dynamic memory in pid1 | Jan 31 14:09 |
| MinceR | when none of the roles of pid1 require it | Jan 31 14:09 |
| oiaohm | https://felipec.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/init/ there is more than a few examples of pid1 using dynamic memory. | Jan 31 14:12 |
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| oiaohm | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1998/09/msg00783.html <<< some of the funny ones is some sysvinit that do strange things are dyanmic memory using as well. | Jan 31 14:13 |
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| MinceR | sure there are | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | but it isn't necessary | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | calling wait() needs no dynamic memory | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | forking and execing /etc/rc or whatever also needs no dynamic memory | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | everything else is superfluous | Jan 31 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Processing the inittab that was in the sysvinit design you have missed. | Jan 31 14:27 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about sysvinit | Jan 31 14:28 |
| MinceR | sysvinit is a design that can be improved on, slimmed down | Jan 31 14:28 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit design with all the usage of shell and the allocations that causes cannot be slimmed down that much. | Jan 31 14:29 |
| oiaohm | before it no longer sysvinit. | Jan 31 14:29 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jan 31 14:30 |
| MinceR | is systemd the only pid1 claimant that is allowed to change the design? | Jan 31 14:30 |
| MinceR | are all the others heresy? | Jan 31 14:30 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit has a define of what it is. systemd was able to start a new design by allow itself to be distant from the sysvinit design limitations. Systemd was not the first init system todo this either. | Jan 31 14:32 |
| oiaohm | the reason why memory foot print of sysvinit and systemd are so close are the different memory wasting issues both have. | Jan 31 14:33 |
| oiaohm | Reality was that we were to the point where sysvinit was needing replacement. systemd design improves a few things and stuffs a few things up. | Jan 31 14:35 |
| MinceR | "few" | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | yea | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | breaks logging, breaks NTP, introduces ancient DNS vulnerabilities | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | breaks cron, screen, tmux, dtach | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | fails to reap zombies reliably | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | but who cares, it's "modern"! | Jan 31 14:37 |
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| oiaohm | sysvinit early versions had the fails to reap zombies seams to be a universal fault that comes every time someone writes a new init. http://serverfault.com/questions/611715/solaris-10-init-failing-to-reap-zombie-processes | Jan 31 14:39 |
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| MinceR | what a surprise, slowlaris failing at yet another basic task | Jan 31 14:40 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: runit stuffed it up on its 4 version. | Jan 31 14:40 |
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| MinceR | how many distributions were using it in their allegedly stable releases at that time? | Jan 31 14:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as I say the zombie fail turns out to be kinda universal when ever someone writes a new so called init do a zombie test if you go by history. | Jan 31 14:41 |
| oiaohm | I call the zombie issue a failure to learn from history. | Jan 31 14:41 |
| MinceR | what do you call tacking on superfluous features without caring to get the basics right? | Jan 31 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Even the DNS one where was the distribution quality control testing for that historic fault. Remember that historic fault could have come back from a bad glibc or many other causes. | Jan 31 14:43 |
| MinceR | also, i wonder which is the first version of runit that even offered pid1 support -- iirc it's not their focus | Jan 31 14:43 |
| MinceR | yes, a "historic fault" which is a well known trap to avoid for any competent person designing a DNS resolver | Jan 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Please note redhat found the same fault in 3 option resolvers they were shipping as well. | Jan 31 14:44 |
| MinceR | but it's hard to do competent design when you're just rushing to add more features | Jan 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | There is need for a test suite looking for know historic glitches. | Jan 31 14:45 |
| MinceR | there is need for employing software engineers to design critical software | Jan 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | To keep those historic glitches dead. | Jan 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when you are saying breaking NTP are you refering to this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-timesyncd | Jan 31 14:46 |
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| MinceR | yes | Jan 31 14:46 |
| oiaohm | There is in fact a reason against doing a full NTP sync. Turns out in a local lan with every machine attempting a full NTP can end up with time variations large enough to cause Kerberos and the like to fail. | Jan 31 14:48 |
| oiaohm | So there is a need for a trimmed down option. | Jan 31 14:49 |
| MinceR | and what has poettering done that's even remotely "trimmed down"? | Jan 31 14:49 |
| oiaohm | timesyncd is a very trimmed down NTP it only access 1 server and does not attempt any correction maths. | Jan 31 14:51 |
| oiaohm | timesyncd is even design that it cannot provide time to other systems. So if you want time server for a network you have to install the normal NTP packages. | Jan 31 14:52 |
| MinceR | you forgot the part where it depends on systemd | Jan 31 14:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this one gets interesting. when systemd-timesyncd was first made it depended on dbus and systemd-networkd today it only depends on dbus so can be built as a independant binary to the everything else systemd. | Jan 31 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Lot of parts of systemd these days can be built as indivdual binaries. | Jan 31 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Seams to be a issue just because it in the systemd source repository that it some how has to be built magically connected to everything else and that is not the case. | Jan 31 14:58 |
| MinceR | and when you fall for it, they spring the trap | Jan 31 14:58 |
| oiaohm | turns out having timesyncd linked to extra parts of systemd gave them more bugs to fix. | Jan 31 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Reality is not in systemd developer sanity to glue it too much together. | Jan 31 14:59 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is not like a busybox where they are stuffing it all in a single executable. | Jan 31 15:03 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34808956/dtach-in-systemd-service-file dtach one I not sure on that one. Systemd automatically starts services dtached. | Jan 31 15:06 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I have used a standard crond with systemd and I have used the python scripts of systemd-cron that map cron options to systemd. | Jan 31 15:07 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: screen, tmux if you did back when it comes to the design of logind before systemd there was the idea of add auto process kill on logout and there was a option in consolekit to have to do the same thing. | Jan 31 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all systemd did to screen and tmux really was change a default that was in consolekit to off to on in logind. | Jan 31 15:11 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: have you already forgotten about what they did to udev? | Jan 31 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/pxRdY | Jan 31 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source tree | Jan 31 15:27 | |
| MinceR | >The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible with | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | non-systemd init systems for a long time. | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | Jan 31 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader | Jan 31 15:28 | |
| MinceR | >Unless the systemd-haters prepare another | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we will | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call. | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and you expect me to trust these microsoftian assholes with yet another piece of software | Jan 31 15:28 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: as for busybox, you can specify what parts you want built in that executable, and none of it locks you into the rest of busybox | Jan 31 15:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: dtach, screen and tmux are often started from the shell | Jan 31 15:32 |
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| MinceR | and yeah, "all systemd did" about that was break expected, correct behavior | Jan 31 15:33 |
| MinceR | but who cares what the owners and sysadmins want, in the brave new microsoftian world, poettering decides what happens on your linux-based systems | Jan 31 15:34 |
| MinceR | and then the morons from the FSF swear up and down it's soo freedom-respecting | Jan 31 15:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I had not forgotten about udev https://lwn.net/Articles/518942/ From the udev development the in Linux kernel firmware loader should have been backported. Because doing in userspace when issues went particular ways caused 30 second+ stalls. | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| MinceR | i see, so not only do you not mind poettering&co. luring users into traps, you then propose that it's the users' responsibility to climb out of the traps | Jan 31 21:10 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 31 21:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the udev one is tricky. If user uses like init=/bin/bash so udev is not started for some recovery reason and some driver fires up that need firmware since udev is not loaded the system can stall. | Jan 31 21:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so that is a bug and a half. | Jan 31 21:13 |
| MinceR | you're trying to divert from the point | Jan 31 21:15 |
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| oiaohm | No I am not the issue you pointed to was udev removing usermode firmware loading. The reason for that is a dispute. The dispute comes down to system recovery. | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| XRevan86 | SebthreeBQM10HD: hi | Jan 31 21:16 |
| oiaohm | systemd project attempted to apply force to get a feature backported. | Jan 31 21:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | XRevan86, hi | Jan 31 21:17 |
| oiaohm | Has the udev project before merge with systemd on other things done the same thing the answer is yes. | Jan 31 21:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so the udev issue was not exacty new. | Jan 31 21:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the systemd merge just really brought more media attention on when development of udev and kernel decided to fight. | Jan 31 21:18 |
| MinceR | wrong | Jan 31 21:18 |
| oiaohm | Not wrong the first udev kernel fight is 1999 | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | the assimilation of udev into systemd was simply an attempt to use lock-in to force systemd on all users of the linux kernel | Jan 31 21:19 |
| oiaohm | way before systemd | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | including android | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | can you elucidate to me how can udev depend on systemd "way before" systemd even existed? | Jan 31 21:19 |
| oiaohm | Google had backported kernel firmware loading into their 3.2 | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | i'd be very interested in this time machine red hat owns and operates | Jan 31 21:19 |
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| oiaohm | The 1999 fight was triggered fro suse. | Jan 31 21:20 |
| oiaohm | The assimilation of udev was that the project was put for 12 requesting a new maintainer and no one stepped forwards. | Jan 31 21:21 |
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| MinceR | and the one that did, did so with the intention of killing unix | Jan 31 21:22 |
| oiaohm | If you read when the that request was put up there was a warning that there there were distribution breaking changes that had to be looked at. | Jan 31 21:23 |
| oiaohm | So there is a lot around the udev mess. | Jan 31 21:24 |
| MinceR | but mostly just red hat being malicious | Jan 31 21:24 |
| oiaohm | Really exactly why is it redhat job on it own to maintain udev? At some point redhat does have to select their own interests. | Jan 31 21:25 |
| oiaohm | So the udev mess is caused how a lot of problems in open source has been caused. Depending on a project then not doing anything for maintainership then get up set when some change means it no longer works for your project. | Jan 31 21:26 |
| MinceR | yes, really, why does redhat have to touch it at all? | Jan 31 21:27 |
| oiaohm | Because otherwise there was going to be no maintainer at all to merge patches why they put a staff memember on it in the first place when it was udev because patches had not been merged for 3 months. | Jan 31 21:28 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jan 31 21:28 |
| MinceR | then it will stay in an old, but still usable state | Jan 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | as opposed to basically the slow and painful route to windows | Jan 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | if these people can only make software worse, then they perhaps should not get to touch it at all | Jan 31 21:29 |
| oiaohm | Redhat had maintained udev long before systemd. | Jan 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, redhat existed for a long time before they turned into microsoft's assassin | Jan 31 21:30 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://git.busybox.net/busybox/plain/docs/mdev.txt interesting enough over the udev merge and change only one distributions provided people to take care of the alternative. | Jan 31 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Excellent goalkeeper. Always was! https://twitter.com/LFC/status/826544235092594688 | Jan 31 21:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: do note the thing in the mdev.txt "Kernel does not serialize hotplug events." this include firmware request to userspace. And some buggy kernel driver can attempt to fire up when it has it firmware when a driver under it has not fired up because it does not have it firmware. This does not happen when the in kernel firmware loader is being used. | Jan 31 21:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a issue there at even using the alternative does not fix. | Jan 31 21:39 |
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| MinceR | i doubt that the kernel people can't fix this issue without turning GNU/Linux into windows | Jan 31 21:43 |
| MinceR | they tended to be otherwise relatively competent | Jan 31 21:43 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem. Newer branches of the Linux kernel fixed the firmware loader problem by integrating into kernel. And deprecating the userspace interface for loading firmware to the point that past a particular kernel version will never call userspace for firmware. | Jan 31 21:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sometimes the way the Linux kernel has fixed a particular issue then never back ports that fix to LTS versions is the problem. | Jan 31 21:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: old saying it takes two to tango and the udev and linux kernel mess over firmware loading both are at fault for different reasons. | Jan 31 21:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the udev firmware loading thing would be a different matter if you could point to mdev and equal showing an example working without bugs or that the kernel had not made another solution that had deprecated the interface. | Jan 31 21:56 |
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| cubexyz | systemd goes against unix philosophy | Jan 31 23:43 |
| cubexyz | I don't want it | Jan 31 23:43 |
| cubexyz | launchd is anti-unix for that matter | Jan 31 23:44 |
| cubexyz | have a look at my old scanner program: | Jan 31 23:45 |
| MinceR | but but but... unix is not "modern"! | Jan 31 23:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scantest3.c | Jan 31 23:45 |
| cubexyz | that won't work on new linux because /dev/usb/scanner0 doesn't exist | Jan 31 23:46 |
| MinceR | http://www.engrish.com/2017/01/dont-spillem/ | Jan 31 23:46 |
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| cubexyz | you can't rely on them not changing things | Jan 31 23:47 |
| MinceR | who would want to use a scanner program that wasn't written in the last 2 years anyway? :> | Jan 31 23:48 |
| cubexyz | there used to be a LKM for the scanner, but that got axed | Jan 31 23:49 |
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| cubexyz | my main point is the old system worked... it didn't need to be changed | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | (now using a broken adaptation of a badly designed kernel from 1977, with a windowing system built into it, and imitations thereof, on the other hand... now that's "modern"!) | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | i understand all that | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | but people like oiaohm apparently don't :> | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | for some people, what matters is that it must be new and shiny, and whether it works at all is uninteresting | Jan 31 23:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really there are a lot of reports before systemd that sysvinit had issues. Add in the multi attempt to make a replacement to sysvinit. That stuff does not happen if there are not bugs. | Jan 31 23:55 |
| cubexyz | they just like to change things | Jan 31 23:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly http://smarden.org/runit/ you have to remember before systemd we had stuff like this. | Jan 31 23:56 |
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| oiaohm | There were ongoing issues with service supervision due to defects in sysvinit design. | Jan 31 23:56 |
| oiaohm | So the idea to replace the init system did not come out the vacuum. | Jan 31 23:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also with putting video card memory management into kernel space was also the on-going issue of switch to console and back to graphical and have everything go nuts. | Jan 31 23:58 |
| cubexyz | even so forcing systemd on all distros is wrong | Jan 31 23:58 |
| cubexyz | just pick the init system you like and stick with it | Jan 31 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Lot of distributions were not forced. But also had not invested in making a solution of their own to the on going service management problem. | Jan 31 23:59 |
| oiaohm | systemd market share comes out of a vacuum of working solutions. | Feb 01 00:00 |
| cubexyz | upstart seemed OK to me | Feb 01 00:00 |
| cubexyz | backward compatible with the old system | Feb 01 00:00 |
| oiaohm | upstart was dropped by ubuntu for systemd because using ptrace to follow services for service management than not doing service management. | Feb 01 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Reality is the only group that has attempt a solution that stands a chance of working that is something like sysvinit is openrc start by gentoo. | Feb 01 00:02 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem when you dig in and ask the question does the service management work. You find repeated attempt to add service management to the init system that has bugs and does not work for years. | Feb 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | video card memory manager != windowing system | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | i think even dave cutler might be able to understand the difference | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | though i wouldn't bet on it | Feb 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Linux kernel has not put a windows system in kernel. | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | but poettering's great inspiration, windows nt, has | Feb 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but what people say is going like windows is drm in kernel that is memory management in kernel. | Feb 01 00:06 |
| oiaohm | In fact poettering was pushing to move the terminal code out of the Linux kernel. | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | upstart was horrible, but systemd makes it look good | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know | Feb 01 00:06 |
| oiaohm | So the idea of coping windows is in fact wrong. | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | poettering wants the terminal code in systemd, so you don't get to use linux without systemd | Feb 01 00:07 |
| MinceR | it's always the same goal | Feb 01 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Ok there is only 400+ CVE with the linux kernel terminal code. | Feb 01 00:07 |
| cubexyz | yeah he's trying to worm it into linux so it's forced | Feb 01 00:07 |
| cubexyz | was is wrong with upstart? | Feb 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | it abuses signals and ptrace | Feb 01 00:08 |
| cubexyz | did sysvinit do that? | Feb 01 00:08 |
| oiaohm | upstart service management that end up disabled more often then not used ptrace and signals in very horrible ways. | Feb 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | no | Feb 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | sysvinit relies on pid files | Feb 01 00:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: sysvinit does not have service management that works because it presumes PID numbers are never recycled. | Feb 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | except it does, because services very rarely crash and PID numbers are very rarely recycled | Feb 01 00:09 |
| oiaohm | So both are broken. | Feb 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | meanwhile systemd relies on cgroups for everything, even though they know it doesn't do reliably what they want from it | Feb 01 00:09 |
| cubexyz | but Linux does recycle PIDs does it not? | Feb 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Every distribution has a bugs reported why they were using sysvinit of cases of PID recycling and crashed services. | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | but that's fine, because it was blessed by poettering so all of its faults are to be ignored, otherwise you're a heretic | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Feb 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so saying it does not have does not agree with distribution bug reports. | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes, it does | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | >every distribution | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | every distribution doesn't even have a bug tracker | Feb 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | sysv that sysvinit is from reboot when it had used up all the PID numbers. | Feb 01 00:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, is there anything that works like sysvinit but doesn't have bugs? | Feb 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | no | Feb 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | all software that is at least as complex as sysvinit (i.e. non-trivial) is very likely to have bugs | Feb 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | The closest is openrc but that thing is not complete. | Feb 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | openrc uses the sysvinit init binary | Feb 01 00:11 |
| cubexyz | wow, I can't recall any problems on FC1, and it's been 13 years now | Feb 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | that's because such problems are very unlikely | Feb 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | but they're the straws poettering&co. are grasping at | Feb 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sorry the PID issue in sysvinit was first documented in a book against Unix before Linux existed. | Feb 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | So not straw aguements also that issue lead to many of the attempts to do service management. | Feb 01 00:13 |
| cubexyz | the system must increment the PID until it rises to a maximum value, then wrap around | Feb 01 00:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sorry, the cgroup issue is also documented, even in systemd source code | Feb 01 00:14 |
| cubexyz | not sure how long that takes | Feb 01 00:14 |
| MinceR | even though those guys probably experience physical pain every time they write a line of comment | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | seeing how rare they are in their shitty code | Feb 01 00:15 |
| cubexyz | I think AIX is a bit different though | Feb 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroup v1 was replaced by cgroupv2. | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | and then it will be replaced by v3 | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | and maybe eventually it will even work | Feb 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | And to make cgroup v1 defects be fixed something that to use it in volume. | Feb 01 00:15 |
| cubexyz | which distros are you guys using now? | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | if there will even be demand for linux and anyone will still be working on it | Feb 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | I am on debian testing. | Feb 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | despite redhat doing everything they can to destroy it | Feb 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | i'm still on crunchbang11, raspbian7, debian7 and devuan1 | Feb 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: unlikely to be a cgroup v3. cgroupv1 was a mess because it was 3 different project ideas mixed with each other and not unified to work as a single solution. | Feb 01 00:17 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm on FC1, slack and openbsd and chromeos and a bunch of other stuff | Feb 01 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Its like one of the current linux bugs of not being able to move memory blocks containing SLAB allocations to defrag ram to allow huge pages to be used to perform faster IO. | Feb 01 00:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: sweeping bugs under carpet with it works for me answer always end up with a change sooner or latter. | Feb 01 00:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: does sweeping bugs under the carpet with "but it's modern!" work better, then? | Feb 01 00:20 |
| cubexyz | what about new bugs? :) | Feb 01 00:20 |
| cubexyz | you think the new stuff is going to be bug free? | Feb 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | has this CADT approach of forgetting everything and rewriting the whole thing from scratch, rinse, and repeat, ever led to workable software? | Feb 01 00:21 |
| cubexyz | GE Nuclear power plants are still using PDP-11s | Feb 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: obviously, they're heretics | Feb 01 00:21 |
| cubexyz | now, there must be a reason for that | Feb 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| cubexyz | I suspect that it's because they know EXACTLY how it works | Feb 01 00:22 |
| oiaohm | New stuff is never 100 percent bug free. But at times the only way to fix something is to start from stratch and attempt something new. | Feb 01 00:22 |
| MinceR | when will it ever be fixed if you just forget everything and restart? | Feb 01 00:22 |
| MinceR | scratch that, how do you expect things to be fixed at all with an obviously broken fundamental design? | Feb 01 00:22 |
| cubexyz | they didn't fix the old stuff, I bet they don't fix the new stuff either | Feb 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | (things like 'stuff everything in pid1, running as root' and 'force people to use my binary logging daemon' and 'assume that if a daemon spawns a subprocess, that can only be a component of that daemon and not an independent daemon') | Feb 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | there had been many attempts to fix the old stuff like with upstart. openrc is the newest attempt to fix with the old stuff. | Feb 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | there are also many non-pid1 service managers | Feb 01 00:24 |
| MinceR | things you people like to pretend don't exist | Feb 01 00:24 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't matter | Feb 01 00:24 |
| cubexyz | as long as you can use what you want | Feb 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no I don't and most of the non-pid1 service managers had been attempted to code generically so end up failing on Linux | Feb 01 00:24 |
| cubexyz | and not be forced into anything | Feb 01 00:24 |
| MinceR | yeah, being able to use what i want would be nice | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you like to forget that systemd is coded that it can in fact run without pid1 | Feb 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | but for some people this seems to be impossible | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | systemd started life as a service manager. | Feb 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, i remember code in it that aborts if it doesn't have the coveted pid1 | Feb 01 00:25 |
| cubexyz | obviously FC1 and sysvinit works well enough for me, as it's been proven to work for 13 years | Feb 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | that must work so well | Feb 01 00:25 |
| cubexyz | that's good enough | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the go read the code again. In fact it does not abort if it not pid1. | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | So systemd could be run exactly like solaris solution. | Feb 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | slowlaris sucks and it's dying | Feb 01 00:26 |
| cubexyz | IBM mainframes are probably the most reliable | Feb 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | also, at least one version of it runs SMF as pid1, iirc | Feb 01 00:27 |
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| oiaohm | SMF can be run as pid1 or can be run without it. | Feb 01 00:27 |
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| oiaohm | Most of the focus on the PID1 about systemd is fear of change and not wanting to consider the issues that need to be addressed like service management. | Feb 01 00:28 |
| cubexyz | I never understood why udev was necessary either | Feb 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | it's supposedly a more elegant approach to dynamic device nodes than devfs was | Feb 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | iirc devfs did everything in kernel, with udev the kernel only creates device nodes and udev in userspace sets permissions, ownership and triggers actions | Feb 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's all about fear of change | Feb 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | because i fled from winblows to unix because i was afraid of change, not because i was tired of broken, bloated, inflexible crap where everything was kept secret from me | Feb 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | and where every single secret was used as a weapon against me | Feb 01 00:31 |
| oiaohm | udev/mdev mostly comes about due to supporting hotplugging and having to correctly permission assign permissions. | Feb 01 00:31 |
| MinceR | devfs already supported hotplugging | Feb 01 00:31 |
| cubexyz | by the time I understand udev they'll probably change it again | Feb 01 00:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://lwn.net/Articles/65197/ there was a nice write up why static and devfs was given up on. | Feb 01 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-udev and devfs - The final word [LWN.net] | Feb 01 00:31 | |
| cubexyz | I guess that's what mdev is, the successor to udev? :) | Feb 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | isn't mdev busybox's lightweight udev replacement? | Feb 01 00:32 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think you're right | Feb 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | there's also a vdev in the works, probably less broken than what redhat is twisting into a broken mess | Feb 01 00:32 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I don't usually unplug my scanner | Feb 01 00:33 |
| oiaohm | mdev is busybox solution. | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | so static is fine | Feb 01 00:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: plugin in usb memory keys and the like as well. | Feb 01 00:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: who cares what you do? the only thing that matters is what poettering usually does ;) | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | oh, I know no one cares what I do :) | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | that's very clear | Feb 01 00:33 |
| MinceR | only his use cases matter; all those GNU/Linux servers and their sysadmins can burn in hell :> | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | burning in hell would be using windows 10 I'd say | Feb 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | yes, but redhat and the FSF brings you all the design flaws and maliciousness of windows without the price ;) | Feb 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | also, all the lack of control | Feb 01 00:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: vdev also does not support firmware loading. | Feb 01 00:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so does not have to have firmware validation. | Feb 01 00:36 |
| cubexyz | honestly I don't really like udev | Feb 01 00:36 |
| cubexyz | and I don't continually unplug my devices | Feb 01 00:36 |
| cubexyz | I don't even trust usb drives | Feb 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | and i don't have multiseat desktops | Feb 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | but they don't care what we do or want | Feb 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | they only care about their schemes | Feb 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | usb drives so defective A LOT | Feb 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | s/so/go/ | Feb 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | you must understand that server is different from laptop | Feb 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | i do | Feb 01 00:38 |
| cubexyz | with a laptop yes, you probably would unplug stuff all the time | Feb 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, redhat people and their fans do not | Feb 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | they probably run windows on their "servers" | Feb 01 00:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: In fact I run Linux in my servers and have run into the recycled PID issue. | Feb 01 00:39 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't think oiaohm would want to run windows | Feb 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | he wants something that's identical to windows, but is gratis :> | Feb 01 00:40 |
| cubexyz | I'll make my own distro eventually | Feb 01 00:40 |
| oiaohm | I want things like BSD and solaris have had for a long time like working service tracking. | Feb 01 00:40 |
| cubexyz | then everyone will say give me systemd and I'll say no :) | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | and redhat will gladly let you have your own distro, as long as it's a fedora with a custom logo, name and wallpaper | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | everything else will have to be Standardized(tm) | Feb 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | redhat does centos and redora as well as paid. | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | yeah | Feb 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | fedora | Feb 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes I sould avoid that joke about fedora. | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | rHELL is a supposedly more stabilized fedora (which means nothing, since these people have no clue what stability means) and centos is a gratis rHELL | Feb 01 00:42 |
| oiaohm | fedora has so many bugs it will make you bleed so it deserves the name redora. | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | so it's 1 distro in 3 clothings | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | retardora | Feb 01 00:42 |
| cubexyz | Fedora 14 was the end for me | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | and they all ship the same unreliable broken package manager, which they'll probably assimilate into systemd | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | so they can shove it down debian users' throats | Feb 01 00:43 |
| cubexyz | which init system does devuan use? | Feb 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | sysvinit by default | Feb 01 00:43 |
| oiaohm | devuan is choose you own from stack of different grades of broken. | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | there's an openrc package, but i don't know how well supported it is currently | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | afaik it will be more of a focus in the next release | Feb 01 00:44 |
| cubexyz | how about a distro without udev? :) | Feb 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I tried devuan with openrc it makes gentoo openrc from 3 years ago look stable. | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | and there are other packages too, probably | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you | Feb 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | I like openrc | Feb 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | and i tried fedora 15 and it's crap | Feb 01 00:45 |
| oiaohm | design | Feb 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | sure you do | Feb 01 00:45 |
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| MinceR | like concern trolls "like" GNU/Linux | Feb 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | "i even booted it once!" | Feb 01 00:45 |
| oiaohm | Current one openrc in gentoo is quite nice. | Feb 01 00:45 |
| cubexyz | ah, you can create all devices as static in LFS | Feb 01 00:45 |
| oiaohm | But I don;t like gentoo package management. | Feb 01 00:45 |
| cubexyz | is there a package manager you do like? | Feb 01 00:47 |
| oiaohm | debian is the closest with the packages I use but I have liked nixos package management a lot. | Feb 01 00:47 |
| MinceR | i would have liked nix more if it worked more reliably | Feb 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | but still, i can get a few applications from it | Feb 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | and have them work | Feb 01 00:48 |
| cubexyz | bah... tarballs :) | Feb 01 00:48 |
| cubexyz | only way to learn | Feb 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | tarball is not very specific | Feb 01 00:48 |
| cubexyz | you learn about libraries though, I promise :) | Feb 01 00:49 |
| MinceR | could be source, could be binary you can unpack and use anywhere, could be binary that has to be unpacked in root | Feb 01 00:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so nix package management we both like and both hate it lack of stablity. | Feb 01 00:49 |
| cubexyz | right, OK I meant source tarball | Feb 01 00:49 |
| MinceR | source tarballs can be a lot of pain sometimes | Feb 01 00:49 |
| cubexyz | yeah I did have some problems compiling newsbeuter | Feb 01 00:50 |
| cubexyz | and canto... ugh it was bad | Feb 01 00:50 |
| MinceR | xonotic's portable binary zip is nice, except it was built with a libc that's newer than mine so i had to build from git anyway | Feb 01 00:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my biggest cause of PID recycling is items like postgresql that start a process for a connection have a stack of rapid conections be wrapping through the pid numbers quite quickly. | Feb 01 00:51 |
| MinceR | i'd rather have a service manager handle those than let systemd screw with my systems | Feb 01 00:52 |
| MinceR | (this also has the advantage of letting pid1 being arbitrarily simple) | Feb 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | I want a working service manager. | Feb 01 00:52 |
| MinceR | tough, you got what's on the market. :> | Feb 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | That does not gitch in particular random case. | Feb 01 00:52 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I start X or sshd on it's own | Feb 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | The lowest gitch count service manager on Linux at the moment it a toss up between docker or systemd. | Feb 01 00:53 |
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| MinceR | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=383 | Feb 01 01:01 |
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| MinceR | systemd is not a service manager, it's an OS | Feb 01 01:05 |
| MinceR | and neither is docker, it's a virtualization platform | Feb 01 01:06 |
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| cubexyz | I always wondered what rarian-sk-get-cl was | Feb 01 01:33 |
| cubexyz | it's newish... doesn't exist in FC1 | Feb 01 01:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit The US is "home of the brave"...' | Feb 01 01:36 | |
| cubexyz | cl == content list I think | Feb 01 01:37 |
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| cubexyz | ah, LFS to the rescue | Feb 01 01:38 |
| cubexyz | evidently a replacement for scrollkeeper | Feb 01 01:40 |
| cubexyz | "a documentation metadata library" | Feb 01 01:40 |
| cubexyz | scrollkeeper would be a good name for a dungeon crawler game :) | Feb 01 01:41 |
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| cubexyz | yeah FC1 has scrollkeeper | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| cubexyz | we are actually fortunate to get source code | Feb 01 02:02 |
| cubexyz | I can definitely remember the amigados days, the xenix days | Feb 01 02:02 |
| cubexyz | I was only able to see a tiny part of the xenix source | Feb 01 02:02 |
| cubexyz | still haven't seen more than a small part to this day | Feb 01 02:03 |
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| cubexyz | I got the amigaos 3.1 source, haven't really had much time to look at it as yet | Feb 01 02:10 |
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| cubexyz | wonder if ACI is still in business | Feb 01 02:29 |
| cubexyz | probably gone, along with C2 Office gear | Feb 01 02:31 |
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| cubexyz | seeing if I can compile kolourpaint for KDE 4.14.3 | Feb 01 04:06 |
| cubexyz | don't like how it selects an area | Feb 01 04:07 |
| cubexyz | what else is there | Feb 01 04:08 |
| cubexyz | kooka was orphaned | Feb 01 04:09 |
| cubexyz | there's scanimage and xscanimage but there'd kind of hard to use | Feb 01 04:14 |
| cubexyz | you know what would be cool.... a news aggregator that works on a keyword | Feb 01 04:20 |
| cubexyz | so you could go: "aggregate slackware" and it would get you all the slackware news | Feb 01 04:20 |
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| cubexyz | haha: | Feb 01 05:33 |
| cubexyz | "Since there are still a rare few machines without the appropriate hardware, smell-o-vision will have to remain optional. | Feb 01 05:33 |
| cubexyz | But, the current combined policies at MICROS~1 and Apple of deprecating any and all hardare and software more than six months old should fix that. That will also solve the fear that a system might still be in use after its printer ink or smell-o-vision supplies are used up." | Feb 01 05:33 |
| cubexyz | oh no, the scofflaws might refill their ink cartridges... can't have that | Feb 01 05:34 |
| cubexyz | ttp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/31/climate-change-data-saving-trump_n_14531820.html | Feb 01 05:52 |
| cubexyz | http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/31/climate-change-data-saving-trump_n_14531820.html | Feb 01 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.ca | Climate Scientists Turn To Canadian Organizations To Save Vulnerable Data From Trump | Feb 01 05:52 | |
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| cubexyz | got to build ntfsprogs for slack... let's hope this works | Feb 01 08:13 |
| cubexyz | wonder why it's not in the repo | Feb 01 08:14 |
| cubexyz | oh wait a sec... ntfsfix is in /usr/sbin/ | Feb 01 08:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Feb 01 09:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 09:13 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is not a service manager, it's an OS << That is not true. systemd in 2016 got the means to run without privilege and operate as a service manager without the extras. docker service management lines up to AIX style. | Feb 01 09:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| cubexyz | man... changed the motherboard on the customer's computer now I can't boot into XP | Feb 01 10:26 |
| cubexyz | quite a mess | Feb 01 10:27 |
| cubexyz | now I have to deal with this reactivation shit | Feb 01 10:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So it did boot? :D | Feb 01 10:28 |
| cubexyz | it did | Feb 01 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Already impressive. | Feb 01 10:29 |
| cubexyz | but it says there's a "significant change in hardware" so I have to reactivate | Feb 01 10:29 |
| cubexyz | I'm not even sure if M$ will support XP in 2017 | Feb 01 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Call the robot and check. | Feb 01 10:32 |
| XRevan86 | It shouldn't take long. | Feb 01 10:32 |
| cubexyz | I need to backup the data then I'll be changing the motherboard again :-/ | Feb 01 10:32 |
| XRevan86 | It should say something like "Art thou sure this copy of Windows is installed on only one PC?" | Feb 01 10:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: windows activation will trip everytime you change a motherboard. | Feb 01 10:35 |
| cubexyz | maybe safe mode will let me in | Feb 01 10:35 |
| cubexyz | well, the original motherboard is dead | Feb 01 10:35 |
| cubexyz | ha, I'm in | Feb 01 10:36 |
| oiaohm | https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/312295/you-are-prompted-to-activate-windows-xp-or-windows-server-2003-every-time-that-you-start-the-computer <<You might need this sledge hammer. | Feb 01 10:36 |
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| cubexyz | ok, good the data looks alright | Feb 01 10:38 |
| cubexyz | I can just blow it away as long as I get the data first | Feb 01 10:38 |
| cubexyz | damn, the usb drive isn't showing up | Feb 01 10:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that will be normal wrong drivers in windows. | Feb 01 10:41 |
| cubexyz | any way to get the usb hard drive working in safe mode? | Feb 01 10:42 |
| cubexyz | ugh.... maybe I'll try a linux live cd instead... this is getting me nowhere | Feb 01 10:42 |
| oiaohm | If right motherboard drivers and the like are installed usb hard drives will work in XP. | Feb 01 10:42 |
| oiaohm | in safe mode. | Feb 01 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Windows changing motherboards is a art from hell. | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure the drives aren't there yet | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | as everything is different except for the hard drive :-/ | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | drivers | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | this is taking a hell of a long time :-/ | Feb 01 10:45 |
| oiaohm | You most likely have the wrong ide drivers as well. | Feb 01 10:45 |
| cubexyz | probably | Feb 01 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Fairly much everything else important. | Feb 01 10:46 |
| oiaohm | With Linux we get so use to being able to change motherboards and have the majority work. | Feb 01 10:46 |
| cubexyz | yeah but as much as I'd love to blow XP away I have to get the data first | Feb 01 10:46 |
| oiaohm | If it only the data ntfs3g in Linux can be less painful. | Feb 01 10:47 |
| cubexyz | no backups since 2012 | Feb 01 10:48 |
| cubexyz | opensuse 12.1 didn't work... so switching to fedora 11 | Feb 01 10:49 |
| oiaohm | In fact with that statement I would be moving to Linux and ntfs drivers. Windows with incorrect ide drivers can do bad things. | Feb 01 10:49 |
| cubexyz | it didn't see the external drive | Feb 01 10:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826737156315975680 | Feb 01 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dedicated engineering team in South Africa deploys open | Feb 01 10:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source tools, save lives https://t.co/qMe3teUuI2 | Feb 01 10:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dedicated engineering team in South Africa deploys open source tools, save lives | Tux Machines | Feb 01 10:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Dedicated engineering team in South Africa deploys open source tools, save lives https://t.co/qMe3teUuI2 https://t.co/YlP7HX3eUB | Feb 01 10:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24...' | Feb 01 10:55 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, I'm screwed | Feb 01 11:06 |
| cubexyz | external usb drive doesn't show up | Feb 01 11:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I just had a horible idea you have not done my most stupid error with USB ports attempting to use the USB ports in the front of case after change a motherboard I had not plugged in yet. | Feb 01 11:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826745673185783808 | Feb 01 11:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826754235463135232 | Feb 01 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/Y862Fh45QZ | Feb 01 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 11:44 | |
| cubexyz | no, nothing that stupid :) | Feb 01 11:44 |
| cubexyz | fedora 11 live cd didn't find the external usb drive, but fedora 16 live cd did | Feb 01 11:45 |
| cubexyz | live and learn | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| cubexyz | doesn't mount it automatically though | Feb 01 11:56 |
| cubexyz | had to dig through dmesg to find it... then had a look in /dev | Feb 01 11:56 |
| cubexyz | why does it mount as fuseblk? | Feb 01 11:59 |
| cubexyz | dev names are a bit unusual as well | Feb 01 12:00 |
| cubexyz | /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb5 | Feb 01 12:01 |
| cubexyz | was up all night :-/ | Feb 01 12:02 |
| cubexyz | my live cds are getting a bit long in the tooth... time to get something a bit more modern | Feb 01 12:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | You Can Now Install Snap Apps on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Feb 01 17:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I’ve Been | Feb 01 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: no fisting... | Feb 01 21:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 01 21:38 |
| schestowitz | if it said "behind every guy", it would be boxing maybe | Feb 01 21:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Bigger, better LibreOffice 5.3 released for the cloud | Feb 01 21:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bigger, better LibreOffice 5.3 released for the cloud | ZDNet | Feb 01 21:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | LibreOffice 5.3 Released, Called 'Most Feature-Rich Release' Ever - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 01 21:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 13.0.4 stable released, time to update to get the | Feb 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | latest fixes https://t.co/7OEXHZdsa2 | Feb 01 21:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 13.0.4 stable released, time to update to get the latest fixes | GamingOnLinux | Feb 01 21:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Latest Ubuntu Update Includes OpenSSL Fixes | Feb 01 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Update Includes OpenSSL Fixes | Threatpost | The first stop for security news | Feb 01 22:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Olimex spins open source Allwinner A64 based laptop kit | Feb 01 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Rugged SODIMM module runs Linux on i.MX6UL | Feb 01 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | An Everyday Linux User Review Of OpenSUSE Leap 42 | Feb 01 22:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Feb 01 23:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Feb 01 23:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 | Feb 01 23:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 - Tizen Experts | Feb 01 23:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive | Feb 01 23:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with | Feb 01 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/nYCSjDG1kl | Feb 01 23:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now | Feb 01 23:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24, LDC 1.1 & Minimal Container Image Proposed | Feb 01 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Fedora 26 https://t.co/WyoYdCAGy5 (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 01 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME 3.24, LDC 1.1 & Minimal Container Image Proposed For Fedora 26 - Phoronix | Feb 01 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826931350125047809 | Feb 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Linux More Efficient Than Windows When it Comes to RAM | Feb 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Consumption? https://t.co/T4IFQqOCyN (news.tecmint.com) | Feb 01 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tecmint.com | Is Linux More Efficient Than Windows When it Comes to RAM Consumption? | Feb 01 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935306142167041 | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Director https://t.co/vqnAnh5miY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XKd6itMb8Z | Feb 01 23:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive Director | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive Director https://t.co/vqnAnh5miY https://t.co/XKd6itMb8Z | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935312064450560 | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/BZrl7ojYKH | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/vmjhbA4s4F | Feb 01 23:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/BZrl7ojYKH https://t.co/vmjhbA4s4F | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935314190983168 | Feb 01 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/pnM5RH2OUr | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/gvaT5HnIQq | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux https://t.co/G0NpasQTQW | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack News https://t.co/it16U5O0dr | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935321292001280 | Feb 01 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/1ohW4jAE1v | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935322864783361 | Feb 01 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/uOIUNJNZkK | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:29 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: funny | Feb 01 23:34 |
| schestowitz | but potentially offensive | Feb 01 23:34 |
| MinceR | best kind of funny | Feb 01 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935324441923584 | Feb 01 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS From Google https://t.co/AJtzO4Cwq4 | Feb 01 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS From Google | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MashiRafael Ecuador has a very clever President,...' | Feb 01 23:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MotherJones The US prefers to work through...' | Feb 01 23:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer @wikileaks @MotherJones A lot of news networks...' | Feb 01 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer Mother Jones spent a LOT of...' | Feb 01 23:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer Mother Jones stained their reputation and...' | Feb 01 23:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826941998024241152 | Feb 01 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 | Feb 01 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Iqj6XJrSbY (piboards.com) | Feb 01 23:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-piboards.com | Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 | Pi Boards | Feb 01 23:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO...' | Feb 01 23:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO...' | Feb 02 00:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 https://t.co/Iqj6XJrSbY' | Feb 02 00:09 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/mZ6nV | Feb 02 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is why Adidas pants have vertical stripes and the sneakers' stripes have an angle. - Album on Imgur | Feb 02 00:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826945551820263424 | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "CloudLinux's Mykola Naugolnyi announced today that | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support for the CloudLinux 5 operating system series is | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ending" https://t.co/ARlU0eyWsp (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 | Feb 02 00:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/S57WTe53PH | Feb 02 00:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826951668868603904 | Feb 02 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life | Feb 02 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 31, 2017 https://t.co/7NeeoKLYcC | Feb 02 00:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 https://t.co/7NeeoKLYcC https://t.co/n3eefYLqvc | Feb 02 00:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@JesselynRadack 'Democrats' have no fire. A growingly defunct...' | Feb 02 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826960212909125635 | Feb 02 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/KTub6pxcWL | Feb 02 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968389839056896 | Feb 02 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/6yzBfj0kRQ | Feb 02 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968392137469952 | Feb 02 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/SYLG4bxtDP | Feb 02 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968393806811136 | Feb 02 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/6e1V6FyWU1 | Feb 02 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968395442593792 | Feb 02 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/ELOeKv7Zgy | Feb 02 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End...' | Feb 02 01:46 | |
| cubexyz | well Microsoft sucks.. I wish I didn't have to deal with this XP box | Feb 02 02:05 |
| cubexyz | but a job's a job | Feb 02 02:05 |
| cubexyz | had some partition problems with the 2nd paritition on the HD | Feb 02 02:06 |
| cubexyz | testdisk seems to have fixed it though | Feb 02 02:08 |
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| cubexyz | not sure what the best way is to backup all data... hmmm | Feb 02 04:42 |
| cubexyz | there does seem to be some amount of interest in my v5 & v6 work | Feb 02 04:48 |
| cubexyz | v6 got downloaded 100 times | Feb 02 04:48 |
| cubexyz | can't work on v5 now though... too busy | Feb 02 04:49 |
| cubexyz | http://amultiverse.com/comic/2015/04/29/doomed-to-repeat/ | Feb 02 05:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827057846395236352 | Feb 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released | Feb 02 07:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released | Techrights | Feb 02 07:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released https://t.co/vjNj4i0xm9' | Feb 02 07:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827062402235715584 | Feb 02 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is bringing an Android tablet to Mobile World | Feb 02 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Congress https://t.co/3Dp6HgJZZr (arstechnica.com) | Feb 02 07:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsung is bringing an Android tablet to Mobile World Congress | Ars Technica | Feb 02 07:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Popular Android manufacturer OnePlus caught cheating in | Feb 02 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | benchmark tests | Feb 02 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mRWAuZOyjB (bgr.com) | Feb 02 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Popular Android manufacturer OnePlus caught cheating in benchmark tests – BGR | Feb 02 08:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/M2WdWvnoLW | Feb 02 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827084476362665984 | Feb 02 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Pay Mini to launch for Android | Feb 02 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PdyBjhdkuI (www.zdnet.com) | Feb 02 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JDaPgGDvIh (www.reuters.com) | Feb 02 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Pay Mini to launch for Android | ZDNet | Feb 02 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 02 09:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Electronics to launch web payments service for Android phones in South Korea | Reuters | Feb 02 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085276438724610 | Feb 02 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/MQE8pct9mO | Feb 02 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Feb 02 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085488293027840 | Feb 02 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses | Feb 02 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 09:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses...' | Feb 02 09:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085817768206336 | Feb 02 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Feb 02 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vspnjWCQex (fossforce.com) | Feb 02 09:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | FOSS Force | Feb 02 09:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827086698865688577 | Feb 02 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live | Feb 02 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Your PC or Laptop https://t.co/gAanaQWtxt | Feb 02 09:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop | Feb 02 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827087246754996226 | Feb 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Krita 3.1.2 released! https://t.co/L7rHarR02p (krita.org) | Feb 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 02 09:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Krita 3.1.2 released! | Krita | Feb 02 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827087427709833216 | Feb 02 09:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings | Feb 02 09:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subtraction of Black Levels | Feb 02 09:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/djFdj9Rk3S (linux.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 09:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings Subtraction of Black Levels - Softpedia Linux | Feb 02 09:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827088433659133952 | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nUWX5bUHc3 (lists.debian.org) | Feb 02 09:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release | Feb 02 09:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093092696154113 | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 09:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093097897037824 | Feb 02 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses | Feb 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 09:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack https://t.co/wd04HsrKaq https://t.co/hRHIelEXrP | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093102313607168 | Feb 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Feb 02 09:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source Eye for the Android Guy https://t.co/0xs6F79LaU https://t.co/6504nLsLZH | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093107783069700 | Feb 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour | Feb 02 09:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour https://t.co/KnU87pQv8j https://t.co/OyyL5lOSlY | Feb 02 09:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Best Linux distros | IT PRO | Feb 02 10:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "Lego Mindstorms EV3 robots can be controlled with an | Feb 02 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android app" https://t.co/SJ4Ibf0LnU (www.linux.com) | Feb 02 11:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arrive On Time With NTP -- Part 3: Secure Setup | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 02 11:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Trump's Supreme Court pick who used famous WikiLeaks...' | Feb 02 11:11 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cybersecurity researchers halt work with law enforcement, cancel conferences in travel ban's wake | TheHill | Feb 02 11:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/C7T5Sc3UVY | Feb 02 11:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Given that @milo has historically justified violence...' | Feb 02 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DeplorableSheep @wikileaks @milo There is, and he incited...' | Feb 02 11:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@EaglesJesse @wikileaks His audience would use his words...' | Feb 02 11:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DevyDegaimer I don't think you're even remotely aware...' | Feb 02 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DevyDegaimer I don't think you're even remotely...' | Feb 02 12:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Right now there is something similar happening...' | Feb 02 12:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@spinnumb @DeplorableSheep @wikileaks Milo is a hate preacher....' | Feb 02 12:21 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty @BBCNews It will accelerate with #goldenDawnald...' | Feb 02 12:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/rodrigovlds/status/827137683340328961 | Feb 02 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I’ve Been | Feb 02 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @rodrigovlds Dreaming Of https://t.co/Xs29Zi7ygx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Feb 02 12:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I've Been Dreaming Of - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 02 12:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rodrigovlds favourited 'Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher...' | Feb 02 12:58 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings Subtraction...' | Feb 02 14:07 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: WTF? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | They killed a puppy? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | And then uploaded this? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | and if so, why even promote this crap? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Wife saw it, very upset about that | Feb 02 14:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera | Feb 02 15:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live | Feb 02 15:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:02 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: this isn't 4chan, don't put s** like that in IRC ever again | Feb 02 15:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | DiRT Rally Crashes On To Linux In March | Feb 02 15:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game creation kit 'Construct 3' has a first preview, | Feb 02 15:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Feb 02 15:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux https://t.co/REpNsKR09Y | Feb 02 15:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch Linux: The Simple Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 02 15:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on AWS Marketplace, Azure | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | From Food to Sofas: How Open Source is Changing the World | Feb 02 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Beyond Software https://t.co/xmX55NK6HG | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux https://t.co/r4zF9qQb1X | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/aAVPQcCW0z | Feb 02 15:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178556371378176 | Feb 02 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Big Changes, Improvements Of Mesa 17.0 | Feb 02 15:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Automating Software Testing on Linux SBCs | Feb 02 15:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/827180942368309248 | Feb 02 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/OteKwM94CO | Feb 02 15:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March | Feb 02 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2017 https://t.co/ceZeepqfr9 (www.gamasutra.com) ... | Feb 02 16:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March 2017 | Feb 02 16:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827197100979081218 | Feb 02 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux | Feb 02 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | laptop that can https://t.co/p7kAM4QCjy (www.pcworld.com) | Feb 02 16:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can | PCWorld | Feb 02 16:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827204582627430400 | Feb 02 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux | Feb 02 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | laptop that can https://t.co/LR8WAZ6IaA | Feb 02 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/KoWtekWU2K | Feb 02 17:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can | Tux Machines | Feb 02 17:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can https://t.co/LR8WAZ6IaA https://t.co/KoWtekWU2K | Feb 02 17:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More Android Leftovers https://t.co/U3sLM4ruSk | Feb 02 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 17:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released | Feb 02 17:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released | Techrights | Feb 02 17:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released https://t.co/fJZiFWVpWT' | Feb 02 17:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/cWyLWx73wZ | Feb 02 17:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 02 17:52 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/827217981063192576 | Feb 02 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR | Feb 02 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 18:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827230501026934784 | Feb 02 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.7 https://t.co/0hNWbBKPqB (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 02 19:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.7 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827230506022379520 | Feb 02 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Feb 02 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6wSAVyKi1K (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 02 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:30 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: orban? | Feb 02 19:41 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 02 19:41 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks More of the same. #bush started the...' | Feb 02 20:03 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.the-postillon.com/2017/01/border-wall-ikea.html | Feb 02 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-postillon.com | The Postillon: “Börder Wåll”: IKEA offers Trump an affordable solution | Feb 02 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | seen it | Feb 02 20:23 |
| MinceR | https://img.ifcdn.com/images/65debd2c25f84b4e54b17633bc5ce7087cd1580fb9825085dd9d750a1920485e_1.gif | Feb 02 20:41 |
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| MinceR | http://pvponline.com/comic/2017-01-27 | Feb 02 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pvponline.com | PVP - 2017-01-27 | Feb 02 21:44 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.bettershelter.org/product/ this is also ikea product. Really border wall for around camps of bettershelter you would call a do you want fries with that. | Feb 02 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bettershelter.org | Product : Better Shelter | Feb 02 21:50 | |
| MinceR | the one i linked was satire, though | Feb 02 21:59 |
| MinceR | (also, didn't account for assembly work and possibly delivery costs -- but then again, Agent Orange always said _he_ was going to build a wall, so he can do all that himself) | Feb 02 22:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it might be satire but one of ikea products are rapid deploy security walls. Some people who make satire fail to check what some companies in fact really make. | Feb 02 22:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DErurte4CE | Feb 02 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION" — A Bad Lip Reading - YouTube | Feb 02 22:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827289767146516480 | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Tools https://t.co/IQR13bGYAg | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/EkxFUBK9CW | Feb 02 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security Updates, New Tools | Tux Machines | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security Updates, New Tools https://t.co/IQR13bGYAg https://t.co/EkxFUBK9CW | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827298062477307905 | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/5K4GfcizVy | Feb 02 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/5K4GfcizVy https://t.co/tXinNI9v4n | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827298069108584448 | Feb 02 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon | Feb 02 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/GRPinw6dvI | Feb 02 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/5x0EACN6Uw | Feb 02 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great | Tux Machines | Feb 02 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/GRPinw6dvI https://t.co/5x0EACN6Uw | Feb 02 23:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with...' | Feb 02 23:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a...' | Feb 03 00:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314681387708416 | Feb 03 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Feb 03 00:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Tux Machines | Feb 03 00:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 https://t.co/27RWhhzHLY https://t.co/waJga82KLP | Feb 03 00:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314689298178048 | Feb 03 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for | Feb 03 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/e9SzkRYMMN | Feb 03 00:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Tux Machines | Feb 03 00:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/e9SzkRYMMN https://t.co/EYgHL26mxd | Feb 03 00:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314696986374144 | Feb 03 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol | Feb 03 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 00:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 00:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @meupinguim retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10...' | Feb 03 01:18 | |
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| cubexyz | I really hope this is the last time I have to service this XP box | Feb 03 06:04 |
| cubexyz | going to try to get them to go for a chromebox | Feb 03 06:05 |
| cubexyz | they are still using some ancient corel draw version... 7 I think | Feb 03 06:06 |
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| cubexyz | just reading my notes here... I installed FC1 on May 12th, 2004 | Feb 03 06:15 |
| cubexyz | try to get them on chromebox or ummm, Mint 18.1 or something | Feb 03 06:15 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/qjbtj | Feb 03 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Politics aside, this is just funny - Album on Imgur | Feb 03 08:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827430621173653504 | Feb 03 08:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why new Chromebooks make Android tablets completely | Feb 03 08:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | irrelevant https://t.co/qeJGBTGmwm (www.techradar.com) | Feb 03 08:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why new Chromebooks make Android tablets completely irrelevant | TechRadar | Feb 03 08:24 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | (╯°□°)–︻╦╤─ – – – | Feb 03 08:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How I Use Android: Material Podcast host and UX designer | Feb 03 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Yasmine Evjen https://t.co/jMsggPCIwG | Feb 03 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.computerworld.com) | Feb 03 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Use Android: Material Podcast host and UX designer Yasmine Evjen | Computerworld | Feb 03 08:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827436465407803393 | Feb 03 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers | Feb 03 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | won’t get paid https://t.co/XKOIuy9uH3 (arstechnica.com) | Feb 03 08:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid | Ars Technica | Feb 03 08:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827438118940897280 | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid https://t.co/8RmZurbwbG https://t.co/EYWWiD4PAv | Feb 03 08:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827438506351816705 | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS, and Windows https://t.co/T2uh4KYaku | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, macOS, and Windows | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Budget GNU/Linux Laptops https://t.co/tYo1wcdDzw | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budget GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/oqMUWaETVT | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | First Tails beta release based on Stretch | Feb 03 08:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.debian.org | intrigeri's blog/posts/First Tails beta release based on Stretch | Feb 03 08:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC | Feb 03 08:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC - CNET | Feb 03 08:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827440405268553728 | Feb 03 09:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora speakers at FOSDEM 2017 https://t.co/3yJ5BAhPYT | Feb 03 09:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora speakers at FOSDEM 2017 - Fedora Community Blog | Feb 03 09:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Find Fedora at FOSDEM 2017! - Fedora Magazine | Feb 03 09:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827441983513882624 | Feb 03 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Today Plasma 5.9.0 became available in KDE neon User | Feb 03 09:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC | Feb 03 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to choose a Linux distro for your old PC | Tux Machines | Feb 03 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827446801242296320 | Feb 03 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: DevConf 2017, FOSDEM 2017, and FOSS Wave | Feb 03 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: DevConf 2017, FOSDEM 2017, and FOSS Wave | Tux Machines | Feb 03 09:21 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 03 09:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source ECOMP https://t.co/JUGviSN9oz | Feb 03 09:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source ECOMP | Tux Machines | Feb 03 09:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.7 https://t.co/3qh9ATdzgG (lwn.net) 4.4.46 | Feb 03 10:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827457352689446912 | Feb 03 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Feb 03 10:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools - Datamation | Feb 03 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827457536206987264 | Feb 03 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security | Feb 03 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Tools https://t.co/ZLrHnFezFU | Feb 03 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Tails 2.10 Linux Delivers Updated Security and Privacy Tools | Feb 03 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827457745393741825 | Feb 03 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 03 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/ow0QWR6zXV | Feb 03 10:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Feb 03 10:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827457942156881920 | Feb 03 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon | Feb 03 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/f4Sz68zZs8 | Feb 03 10:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great | Feb 03 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458185309126657 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rz60l22iZv (arstechnica.com) | Feb 03 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Mozilla gives up on last vestiges of Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Ars Technica | Feb 03 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458368793108480 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/M3CjbvASr6 | Feb 03 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Feb 03 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458537395777537 | Feb 03 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/i9Cp03jjYq | Feb 03 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 03 10:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Feb 03 10:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458662797029376 | Feb 03 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, | Feb 03 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS, and Windows https://t.co/xjR7nDrN3E | Feb 03 10:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, macOS, and Windows | Feb 03 10:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458868682833920 | Feb 03 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/ebx44WV05v | Feb 03 10:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 | Feb 03 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827459897679810560 | Feb 03 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Automated Testing Laboratory for Embedded Linux | Feb 03 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distributions | Feb 03 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hauXEp80bD (www.linux.com) | Feb 03 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automated Testing Laboratory for Embedded Linux Distributions | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 03 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827460761979076608 | Feb 03 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cossacks 3 for Linux finally has a release date and it's | Feb 03 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | close https://t.co/ywi7Lx8CY3 (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cossacks 3 for Linux finally has a release date and it's close | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 10:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827463863356493824 | Feb 03 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users | Feb 03 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8COVdKirga (www.maketecheasier.com) | Feb 03 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users - Make Tech Easier | Feb 03 10:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827467566692044801 | Feb 03 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT | Feb 03 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) Linux Kernel 4.9.7 also | Feb 03 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lBvqhVyEIv (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 03 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS Is Yet Another Small Patch, Updates InfiniBand Drivers | Feb 03 10:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.9.7 Brings Updates to the Intel i915 and InfiniBand Drivers, More | Feb 03 10:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827468549375590400 | Feb 03 10:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA 375.27.08 Vulkan Driver Released | Feb 03 10:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 375.27.08 Vulkan Driver Released - Phoronix | Feb 03 10:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@TheGreenParty What one cannot ignore is that...' | Feb 03 11:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471839018364928 | Feb 03 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/cOj74u3zvg | Feb 03 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471846496800768 | Feb 03 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/KzvylMh09f | Feb 03 11:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471853182595072 | Feb 03 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Distros for Mac Users and Everyone Else | Feb 03 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wmGTw1EbR1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 03 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Distros for Mac Users and Everyone Else | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827471857720758272 | Feb 03 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development News: Rust 1.15, Seccomp, and High Priority | Feb 03 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Projects List https://t.co/7ZdfO3Hb3R | Feb 03 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 03 11:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Rust 1.15, Seccomp, and High Priority Projects List | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827472255022153729 | Feb 03 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kontron launches Linux-friendly Kaby Lake COMs | Feb 03 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pPogPztx5H (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 03 11:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Kontron launches Linux-friendly Kaby Lake COMs | Feb 03 11:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty Unless this is reformed, #brexit zealots...' | Feb 03 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827482901319184384 | Feb 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [Older] Best Linux Distributions To Try In 2017 | Feb 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ocKz7j9pcE (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Linux Distributions To Try In 2017 - LinuxAndUbuntu | Feb 03 12:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489582748884994 | Feb 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/wNQngFjZ2v | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489584892121089 | Feb 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distributions Again https://t.co/t6r3ArNNlV | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489586725007360 | Feb 03 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Graphics https://t.co/aSJEyXN0bI | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distributions Again | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489588822171648 | Feb 03 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian and Ubuntu https://t.co/ysAQpIVeCn | Feb 03 12:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RaminNasibov favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT Linux Kernel 4.9.7...' | Feb 03 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS Is Yet Another Small Patch, Updates InfiniBand Drivers | Feb 03 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827494553301164034 | Feb 03 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Olimex Teres I is an open source, DIY laptop kit for $240 | Feb 03 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ef8vRYEzuU (liliputing.com) "Linux-based | Feb 03 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software" https://t.co/CCkAdpkmFZ (www.bit-tech.net) | Feb 03 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olimex Teres I is an open source, DIY laptop kit for $240 - Liliputing | Feb 03 12:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olimex announces Teres 1 open hardware laptop | bit-tech.net | Feb 03 12:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827497892080345088 | Feb 03 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/3wNnJGYOE0 | Feb 03 12:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for...' | Feb 03 13:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT Linux Kernel 4.9.7...' | Feb 03 13:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux,...' | Feb 03 13:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux,...' | Feb 03 13:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks This was pointed out some days ago...' | Feb 03 14:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @renato_de_OZ favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10...' | Feb 03 14:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/renato_de_OZ/status/827528610290466824 | Feb 03 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @renato_de_OZ Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol | Feb 03 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 15:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 15:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @telesurenglish Guess who is holding the longer...' | Feb 03 15:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827538715669098496 | Feb 03 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in #Techrights https://t.co/4Hy2YoEc1a | Feb 03 15:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 03 15:36 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aDigkEv.png | Feb 03 15:47 |
| MinceR | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/windows-drm-files-used-to-decloak-tor-browser-users/ | Feb 03 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows DRM Files Used to Decloak Tor Browser Users | Feb 03 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in #Techrights https://t.co/4Hy2YoEc1a' | Feb 03 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827544381880164352 | Feb 03 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lifeless Planet Premier Edition, a third-person | Feb 03 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | action-adventure is now available for Linux | Feb 03 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zpGRbxNNOD (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 15:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lifeless Planet Premier Edition, a third-person action-adventure is now available for Linux | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 15:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827545013160648704 | Feb 03 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Double Fine confirm that Full Throttle Remastered will | Feb 03 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | see a Linux version after the Windows release | Feb 03 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/c3JjJfONzu (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Double Fine confirm that Full Throttle Remastered will see a Linux version after the Windows release | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 15:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@GreenKeithMEP @TheGreenParty When Conservatives speak of "green" they...' | Feb 03 16:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827548515287048193 | Feb 03 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Highlights of YaST development sprint 30 | Feb 03 16:05 |
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| cubexyz | going to give lsx one more look | Feb 03 18:41 |
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| cubexyz | arrgh, no cat... I keep forgetting | Feb 03 18:51 |
| cubexyz | damn you lsx | Feb 03 18:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/827592175508676611 | Feb 03 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/oqMUWaETVT | Feb 03 18:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 18:59 | |
| cubexyz | it's rough going... no one seems to have any notes on it | Feb 03 19:06 |
| cubexyz | yuck... there's minimal but then there's too minimal | Feb 03 19:15 |
| cubexyz | even amigados without a hard drive was painful, and the floppy could hold 880K | Feb 03 19:16 |
| cubexyz | not 256K | Feb 03 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/827592277342220289 | Feb 03 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 03 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/ow0QWR6zXV | Feb 03 19:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 03 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Feb 03 19:30 | |
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| schestowitz | idiots | Feb 03 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Like Trump | Feb 03 19:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek | Feb 03 20:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Helio P20 processor https://t.co/0G2JvTGCaQ | Feb 03 20:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor | Tux Machines | Feb 03 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor https://t.co/0G2JvTGCaQ https://t.co/JNzLGpUsA1 | Feb 03 20:19 | |
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| schestowitz | [18:51] <cubexyz> arrgh, no cat... I keep forgetting | Feb 03 21:20 |
| schestowitz | The command of the mammalian parasite? ;-) | Feb 03 21:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: there's a joke about tumblr and transfats being bad for consumption | Feb 03 21:22 |
| schestowitz | [20:14] <MinceR> https://i.reddituploads.com/769c46c0caad495ab0b7e0eada7d4412?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=e46f82d346b50decbe29182a65165168re | Feb 03 21:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Depending on how one defines #fakenews (Wikipedia...' | Feb 03 21:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks When both sides play dirty, namely spread...' | Feb 03 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@daviddoesfrance I was upset at this claim. As...' | Feb 03 21:54 | |
| MinceR | 03 222044 < schestowitz> The command of the mammalian parasite? ;-) | Feb 03 21:58 |
| MinceR | many humans? :> | Feb 03 21:58 |
| MinceR | also, dogs | Feb 03 21:58 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/AE6UASa.jpg | Feb 03 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: sounds familiar | Feb 03 22:59 |
| schestowitz | was the meaning of cracker something about whites in black dialect? | Feb 03 22:59 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 03 23:14 |
| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4206 | Feb 03 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | It says it right there in your bible. | Feb 03 23:25 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2377.html | Feb 04 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... UnLadylike Liberty! | Feb 04 00:40 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | How to talk about Trump using trumpspeak (and why you should) / Boing Boing | Feb 04 01:15 | |
| MinceR | https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/02/03/2118240/zero-day-windows-security-flaw-can-crash-systems-cause-bsods | Feb 04 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.slashdot.org | Zero-Day Windows Security Flaw Can Crash Systems, Cause BSODs - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/qfdua ] | Feb 04 01:20 | |
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| cubexyz | the windows flaws will never end | Feb 04 04:23 |
| cubexyz | today's Ken Thompson's birthday | Feb 04 04:26 |
| cubexyz | 74 | Feb 04 04:27 |
| cubexyz | Ritchie wasn't in good health and died in 2011 | Feb 04 04:28 |
| cubexyz | trying to get more customers off of windows... | Feb 04 04:34 |
| cubexyz | $DEITY knows what is in the bowels of windows | Feb 04 04:35 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm starting to see AM2 socket stuff go bad so I thought I' | Feb 04 04:44 |
| cubexyz | I | Feb 04 04:44 |
| cubexyz | I'd do a recap on longevity... | Feb 04 04:44 |
| cubexyz | almost all the 2001 and 2002 era laptops I've seen have gone bad in some way | Feb 04 04:45 |
| cubexyz | even some of the 2004 ones | Feb 04 04:45 |
| cubexyz | not all, but almost all | Feb 04 04:45 |
| cubexyz | a few of the HP ones still work with minor maintainance | Feb 04 04:46 |
| cubexyz | on the other side of the coin I've got multiple P3 desktop/tower systems that work fine | Feb 04 04:47 |
| cubexyz | gigabyte, tyan, and one QDI, a dell(!), and IBM 300GL | Feb 04 04:48 |
| cubexyz | can't merely be a coincidence... | Feb 04 04:49 |
| cubexyz | also one of my customers still is using a TV from 1972 :) | Feb 04 04:49 |
| cubexyz | I'll find out which one | Feb 04 04:50 |
| cubexyz | some of the pcchips and jetway motherboards were not great... pcchips in particular was pretty bad | Feb 04 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827741486670237696 | Feb 04 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The February 2017 issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Feb 04 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MapQsWAj3j (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 04:57 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/zworykin-tv-1929.jpg | Feb 04 05:42 |
| amarsh04 | I met Dennis Ritchie but didn't actually meet Ken Thompson although I heard him at a conference | Feb 04 05:50 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: what is this? | Feb 04 05:52 |
| cubexyz | very early tv set | Feb 04 05:52 |
| cubexyz | I was trying to find the oldest electronic tv | Feb 04 05:52 |
| amarsh04 | oldest pc hardware I'm running is a DPT2044W SCSI controller, cable and IBM SCSI hard disk from 1998 | Feb 04 05:54 |
| cubexyz | almost 20 years, pretty good | Feb 04 05:54 |
| amarsh04 | lssci: [0:0:6:0] disk IBM DCAS-34330W S65A /dev/sda | Feb 04 05:54 |
| cubexyz | what make of motherboard? | Feb 04 05:55 |
| amarsh04 | and lspci 05:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartCache/Raid I-IV Controller (rev 02) | Feb 04 05:55 |
| amarsh04 | running a secondhand ASUS that replaced a couple of others including a BIOSTAR 440BX board that was bought as the same time as SCSI controller and disk | Feb 04 05:56 |
| cubexyz | ah, not a 1998 motherboard then | Feb 04 05:56 |
| amarsh04 | this one is A8V-MX | Feb 04 05:56 |
| amarsh04 | last BIOS update was in 2005 | Feb 04 05:57 |
| cubexyz | socket 939, bah :) | Feb 04 05:57 |
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| amarsh04 | linux installation is from June 2004, upgraded, migrated to other hardware but not reinstalled | Feb 04 05:58 |
| amarsh04 | and after the Radeon 9200se video card died I was able to get a Radeon 9550 | Feb 04 06:01 |
| cubexyz | I'm curious about computer longevity, it's kind of a hobby | Feb 04 06:02 |
| amarsh04 | in the making of for the movie "The Dish", a lot of the 1969 era equipment still worked | Feb 04 06:04 |
| amarsh04 | my Telebit fastblazer modem had its telephone line interface circuitry fried by a lightning strike in November 2014 | Feb 04 06:06 |
| amarsh04 | Fastblazer 8840 | Feb 04 06:07 |
| amarsh04 | the ADSL2+ modem online at the same time survived | Feb 04 06:09 |
| cubexyz | what did they used to call those big satellite dishes? BUDs :) | Feb 04 06:09 |
| amarsh04 | an AR7 based device that was bought in December 2008 | Feb 04 06:09 |
| cubexyz | I don't like the idea of replacing my computer every 5 years | Feb 04 06:10 |
| amarsh04 | new pc is from January 2009 | Feb 04 06:11 |
| cubexyz | the Tyan S1832DL is the PC longevity champ | Feb 04 06:11 |
| cubexyz | that one is also 1998 | Feb 04 06:11 |
| amarsh04 | what chipset? | Feb 04 06:12 |
| cubexyz | 440BX | Feb 04 06:13 |
| amarsh04 | ok | Feb 04 06:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm still learning about it :) | Feb 04 06:13 |
| amarsh04 | I didn't like the 384 MiB RAM limit | Feb 04 06:14 |
| amarsh04 | on the 440BX motherboard I had | Feb 04 06:14 |
| amarsh04 | and only 3 PCI slots | Feb 04 06:14 |
| cubexyz | there's like two parts: northbridge 82371EB and southbridge PIIX4e | Feb 04 06:16 |
| cubexyz | I guess both together are called 440BX | Feb 04 06:17 |
| cubexyz | I think 1 gigabyte of ram was the limit on that one | Feb 04 06:17 |
| cubexyz | 5 PCI slots | Feb 04 06:18 |
| amarsh04 | I liked how the VAX11/780 and successors could take 4GiB RAM if you could afford it | Feb 04 06:22 |
| amarsh04 | having used VAX11 assembly language (Macro32), there was no way I was prepared to learn x86 assembly language | Feb 04 06:22 |
| cubexyz | I had no idea VAX11/780 could take that much memory | Feb 04 06:23 |
| cubexyz | I thought 8 megs was the limit | Feb 04 06:23 |
| amarsh04 | maybe for the VAX11/780 | Feb 04 06:24 |
| amarsh04 | VAX 8600 was the biggest one that I'd used | Feb 04 06:24 |
| amarsh04 | and that might have had 12 or 16 MiB RAM, the 11/780's that I used had less than 2 MiB RAM | Feb 04 06:25 |
| cubexyz | oh wait a sec | Feb 04 06:26 |
| amarsh04 | sorry, I haven't looked up the limits of the various VAX computers | Feb 04 06:26 |
| cubexyz | you can get a MS780-E memory controller | Feb 04 06:26 |
| cubexyz | that goes up to 128 megs | Feb 04 06:26 |
| amarsh04 | last VAX at Adelaide University was retired around 2001 or 2002 | Feb 04 06:27 |
| cubexyz | only ones I can simulate are Vax-11/780 and MicroVax 3900 | Feb 04 06:27 |
| cubexyz | yeah, I can run Unix v8 on the simulated Vax-11 | Feb 04 06:28 |
| amarsh04 | back in 1991 I was using DEC Ultrix on MicroVAX-II | Feb 04 06:28 |
| amarsh04 | and in 1994 I met Jon "Mad Dog" Hall | Feb 04 06:29 |
| cubexyz | I should fire up v8 and see if I can get it to run with more than 8 megs of ram | Feb 04 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827765492257607680 | Feb 04 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 04 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DC7FpO5oRK (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 04 06:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 04 06:29 | |
| cubexyz | ok, simh can emulate the 11/780, which supports 128 megs of ram | Feb 04 06:33 |
| cubexyz | so yes, possible | Feb 04 06:33 |
| amarsh04 | interesting, thanks for checking | Feb 04 06:34 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if anyone still runs Vax | Feb 04 06:35 |
| amarsh04 | I also remember using some flavour of *nix on a 80386 based hardware branded Pyramid back around 1991 also | Feb 04 06:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827766071885176832 | Feb 04 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek | Feb 04 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Helio P20 processor https://t.co/Fff5MttoXZ | Feb 04 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) | Feb 04 06:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor - Tizen Experts | Feb 04 06:36 | |
| cubexyz | yeah there was some pretty early Unixes for PCs | Feb 04 06:36 |
| cubexyz | Venix and Xenix were two I used | Feb 04 06:36 |
| cubexyz | a pity I don't still have my original 286 | Feb 04 06:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827767705134628864 | Feb 04 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine development release 2.1" | Feb 04 06:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CcJuIrZ9io (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 04 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qdDLEvTQYI (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 04 06:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/69sakEtACQ (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 04 06:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 2.1 is now available. | Feb 04 06:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 2.1 Adds More Shader Model 5 Instructions, Direct2D Rendering Improvements | Feb 04 06:38 | |
| cubexyz | there's NuVax 3200... replicates a Vax | Feb 04 06:39 |
| cubexyz | eventually companies won't be able to find parts for their ancient Vaxes | Feb 04 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827768228684427265 | Feb 04 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa has a patch from a Valve developer to help ARK | Feb 04 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Survival Evolved run on the open source drivers | Feb 04 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JOb1ATycgu (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 04 06:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa has a patch from a Valve developer to help ARK Survival Evolved run on the open source drivers | GamingOnLinux | Feb 04 06:40 | |
| amarsh04 | my original pc was a 286-10 with 640 kiB RAM | Feb 04 06:40 |
| amarsh04 | NEAT chipset | Feb 04 06:40 |
| amarsh04 | even ended up buying an 80287 chip for it | Feb 04 06:41 |
| cubexyz | I kept my amiga 500 from that era... but not any of the PCs | Feb 04 06:47 |
| cubexyz | hard to get nostalgic for a 286 with hercules graphics :) | Feb 04 06:47 |
| amarsh04 | hehehe | Feb 04 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827768647200493570 | Feb 04 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All | Feb 04 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supported Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/oqDO9vrxql | Feb 04 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 04 06:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Feb 04 06:48 | |
| cubexyz | also expanded/extended memory wasn't fun to program on | Feb 04 06:48 |
| amarsh04 | and 64 kiB memory segments | Feb 04 06:50 |
| cubexyz | DEC messed up big-time | Feb 04 06:50 |
| cubexyz | we really should be running descendents of microvax | Feb 04 06:51 |
| amarsh04 | around 2002-2003 I also was able to use SparcStation 10 computers, I remember downloading gcc-3.2 then using it to compile gcc-3.3 on it | Feb 04 06:53 |
| amarsh04 | 50 MHz CPU clock (-: | Feb 04 06:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827770752946548736 | Feb 04 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/yN8LlYkZf7 | Feb 04 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com) | Feb 04 06:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com | 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. | Feb 04 06:55 | |
| cubexyz | openbsd supports alpha, armv7, hppa, loongson and sparc64 | Feb 04 06:56 |
| cubexyz | old stuff like sun4 got dropped a while back | Feb 04 06:57 |
| cubexyz | I think vax was also dropped | Feb 04 06:57 |
| amarsh04 | when no-one is left to contribute gcc ports, the end is nigh | Feb 04 06:58 |
| amarsh04 | remembering how the Kermit developer couldn't keep a Data General Eclipse running for maintaining ports | Feb 04 06:59 |
| cubexyz | well hardware and software emulation could keep things going maybe | Feb 04 07:01 |
| cubexyz | I still hack on Unix v5 but I wouldn't try to keep a real PDP-11 working | Feb 04 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827772559206805504 | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qgMn3fsRDw (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 04 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Feb 04 07:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774453891289088 | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.1 Development Release https://t.co/wUP4Poov9f | Feb 04 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 2.1 Development Release | Tux Machines | Feb 04 07:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774458802823168 | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/PoeUgUhhoJ | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/mpJ4yxAPf6 | Feb 04 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. | Tux Machines | Feb 04 07:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/PoeUgUhhoJ https://t.co/mpJ4yxAPf6 | Feb 04 07:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774465459118080 | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Feb 04 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JkFbCIDgY1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape | Tux Machines | Feb 04 07:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: BeagleBone Black gains $50 4.3-inch cap touchscreen Cape https://t.co/JkFbCIDgY1 https://t.co/LenmBQXyYu | Feb 04 07:03 | |
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| cubexyz | vax was only discontinued fairly recently on openbsd | Feb 04 07:04 |
| cubexyz | so not _too_ hard to run 5.8 or older on your microvax | Feb 04 07:05 |
| cubexyz | probably too slow for most people | Feb 04 07:07 |
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| cubexyz | google is dropping some support from chrome 53 and older | Feb 04 07:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827774473021435905 | Feb 04 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived | Feb 04 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | TrueOS https://t.co/3dss6mQWAt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GrnjOZuW9i | Feb 04 07:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived TrueOS | Tux Machines | Feb 04 07:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived TrueOS https://t.co/3dss6mQWAt https://t.co/GrnjOZuW9i | Feb 04 07:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827779147799871488 | Feb 04 07:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 10 Best Linux Task Managers https://t.co/iODSX4uF2A | Feb 04 07:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxandubuntu.com) | Feb 04 07:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Best Linux Task Managers - LinuxAndUbuntu | Feb 04 07:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce Journalism is dead if we call BuzzFeed...' | Feb 04 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827782510385860608 | Feb 04 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development News:GitLab, Git, and PHP | Feb 04 07:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News:GitLab, Git, and PHP | Tux Machines | Feb 04 07:35 | |
| amarsh04 | new kernel time | Feb 04 07:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Netgear router vulnerability and critical bug in Linux | Feb 04 08:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | app: Security news IT leaders need to know | Feb 04 08:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zkVbdqmDF2 (business.financialpost.com) | Feb 04 08:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-focused Linux-based operating system Tails 3.0 | Feb 04 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | will drop 32-bit support https://t.co/RFWN1Tgh8R | Feb 04 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (betanews.com) https://t.co/n70B1mw0pc (www.neowin.net) | Feb 04 08:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The RunIQ, New Balance’s first Android Wear smartwatch, | Feb 04 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | is now available | Feb 04 08:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827793860411666432 | Feb 04 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | European Bioinformatics Institute chooses Red Hat | Feb 04 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack | Feb 04 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rwgMVMGMKj (www.cloudpro.co.uk) | Feb 04 08:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudpro.co.uk | European Bioinformatics Institute chooses Red Hat OpenStack | Cloud Pro | Feb 04 08:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | No, Google hasn't cancelled Pixel production | Feb 04 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nv5xZGi4RO (www.androidcentral.com) | Feb 04 08:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | No, Google hasn't cancelled Pixel production | Android Central | Feb 04 08:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827798990682890241 | Feb 04 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tails and 64-bit Processors https://t.co/rlZ97REIne | Feb 04 08:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails and 64-bit Processors | Tux Machines | Feb 04 08:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/3DbL8ah9xW | Feb 04 08:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 04 08:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827798995439218689 | Feb 04 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/CVtJzojI5g | Feb 04 09:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/pjl69hUStb | Feb 04 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 11:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal One of the rare days all the...' | Feb 04 12:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827859503672602624 | Feb 04 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME's Epiphany Web Browser Lands A Lot More 3.24 | Feb 04 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feature Work https://t.co/mAg6j9aSFg (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 04 12:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All...' | Feb 04 12:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org | WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 2.1 is now available. | Feb 04 13:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 2.1 is out with more Shader Model 5 work | GamingOnLinux | Feb 04 13:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827865178532229120 | Feb 04 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Bodhi Needs Testers, Build Your Own PC | Feb 04 13:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Needs Testers, Build Your Own PC | Tux Machines | Feb 04 13:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Cool Internet Radio Players For Linux | Feb 04 13:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827867919967256576 | Feb 04 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Applications in Ubuntu Snap Store | Feb 04 13:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827868864507678723 | Feb 04 13:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vaults - Encryption in Plasma https://t.co/ltpymajAkL | Feb 04 13:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cukic.co | Ivan Čukić | Vaults - Encryption in Plasma | Feb 04 13:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827873604402442241 | Feb 04 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: WikiToLearn India, FOSDEM 2017, MesosCon | Feb 04 13:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: WikiToLearn India, FOSDEM 2017, MesosCon | Tux Machines | Feb 04 13:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827873606692507649 | Feb 04 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE/Qt: PDF Module, Vaults, KDE Store | Feb 04 13:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE/Qt: PDF Module, Vaults, KDE Store | Tux Machines | Feb 04 13:37 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5roaa6/57_see_iot_device_security_as_the_responsibility/ | Feb 04 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | 57% see IoT device security as the responsibility of the manufacturer but manufacturers don’t step up : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qfgej ] | Feb 04 13:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Package managers all the way down | Feb 04 14:16 |
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| XRevan86 | Sebsebsebb: hi | Feb 04 14:43 |
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| XRevan86 | For some reason I see distrohopping as a sign of a newbie. | Feb 04 14:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now Support | Feb 04 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest Kobo Device https://t.co/1zEgMaWr6V | Feb 04 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.noobslab.com) | Feb 04 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now Support Latest Kobo Device - NoobsLab | Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps | Feb 04 14:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827894425875517440 | Feb 04 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "the brains behind multi effects pedal, MOD, which runs | Feb 04 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Linux and other FLOSS software" | Feb 04 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0ThPrs0sFL (libremusicproduction.com) | Feb 04 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libremusicproduction.com | LMP Asks #22: An interview with Gianfranco Ceccolini | Libre Music Production | Feb 04 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827896066347524096 | Feb 04 15:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conky Alternative Weather Widget "Cumulus" Available For | Feb 04 15:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint https://t.co/RZzhUvNpWP | Feb 04 15:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Conky Alternative Weather Widget "Cumulus" Available For Ubuntu/Linux Mint - NoobsLab | Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps | Feb 04 15:08 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I'm meeting Richard Stallman today. What would YOU want to ask Stallman? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qfgx2 ] | Feb 04 15:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827896547316731904 | Feb 04 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Replicant 6.0 development updates https://t.co/Yjx1FlOKNL | Feb 04 15:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.replicant.us | Replicant 6.0 development updates | Replicant | Feb 04 15:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827903354202370050 | Feb 04 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is why I love linux, hundreds tabs opens, tons of | Feb 04 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | programs, RAM is full but my swap on SSD makes it | Feb 04 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | seamless!! https://t.co/5kdktA22WI (www.reddit.com) | Feb 04 15:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | This is why I love linux, hundreds tabs opens, tons of programs, RAM is full but my swap on SSD makes it seamless!! No crashes, no hangups, it's completely responsive! : linux | Feb 04 15:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827905116565078024 | Feb 04 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "goes by the name ZeroPhone. It is an open source | Feb 04 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartphone that’s powered by Raspberry Pi Zero." | Feb 04 15:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techviral.com | ZeroPhone — An Open Source, Linux-powered Smartphone Is Here | Feb 04 15:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now...' | Feb 04 15:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908336339271680 | Feb 04 15:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Disgaea 2 is Now Available on Linux | Feb 04 15:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Disgaea 2 is Now Available on Linux – Boiling Steam | Feb 04 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908737524445187 | Feb 04 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Billy Bass, Alexa and a Raspberry Pi | Feb 04 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anotherpiblog.blogspot.com | Another Pi Blog: Billy Bass, Alexa and a Raspberry Pi | Feb 04 15:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908970392252416 | Feb 04 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Publishing the Data of our Last Linux Gamers Survey | Feb 04 16:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Publishing the Data of our Last Linux Gamers Survey – Boiling Steam | Feb 04 16:01 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/TatCb | Feb 04 16:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Say_Non_Now/status/827914277013037056 | Feb 04 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Say_Non_Now: @schestowitz So now the media is going to be the 4th estate again after being the government's mouthpiece? | Feb 04 16:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915001503576070 | Feb 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/ZKZSt5FSjp | Feb 04 16:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 04 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915003437015040 | Feb 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/zBxLoeLb6s | Feb 04 16:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 04 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915007941750784 | Feb 04 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/VS0S1xyPVH | Feb 04 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 04 16:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931483494969344 | Feb 04 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/7Jjzgzl2lN | Feb 04 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/M1Qzg2Ig9Z | Feb 04 17:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recv failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/98264?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ) | Feb 04 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931488716939265 | Feb 04 17:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/qD9hWNtZCO | Feb 04 17:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines saw that tweetby @tuxmachines too | Feb 04 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931487118962689 | Feb 04 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phones with Freedom https://t.co/QkJhCTqEqO | Feb 04 17:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phones with Freedom | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827932721808805890 | Feb 04 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 4/2/2017: Tails for 64-bit Processors, Wine 2.1 | Feb 04 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development https://t.co/aULoj7nWiM (techrights.org) | Feb 04 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/2/2017: Tails for 64-bit Processors, Wine 2.1 Development | Techrights | Feb 04 17:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Feb 04 17:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:59 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1792/ | Feb 04 18:28 |
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| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4212 | Feb 04 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | Creationist NASA | Feb 04 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827939547430281216 | Feb 04 19:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/oe3OKsLWiK | Feb 04 19:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827964336689655808 | Feb 04 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.8 https://t.co/NGqthx8l03 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 19:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.8 | Tux Machines | Feb 04 19:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DrJillStein @CheriHonkala Your current VP actually spent some...' | Feb 04 20:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/op-ed-when-marketers-drive-microsofts-0day-exploit-communications-we-all-lose/ | Feb 04 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Op-ed: Windows 10 0day exploit goes wild, and so do Microsoft marketers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/qfi72 ] | Feb 04 21:07 | |
| cubexyz | Microsoft truly sucks | Feb 04 21:08 |
| cubexyz | had to deal with them directly just recently | Feb 04 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | CERT reported on a severely critical security vulnerability in Windows 10, so Ars Technica emailed MSFT aand got a reply from a nameless individual that users should stick to Windows 10 and Edge, even though Windows 10 is as vulnerable as any other supported version and the exploit doesn't even require use of a web browser. | Feb 04 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | MSFT continued that "only Windows has a commitment to customer safety". | Feb 04 21:09 |
| cubexyz | windows 10 is just garbage | Feb 04 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Also, that they have a proactive response to security issues, even though no patch is available. | Feb 04 21:10 |
| cubexyz | windows 10 had a cert advisory of 10 (maximum in volnerability scoring system), lol | Feb 04 21:10 |
| cubexyz | oh then downgraded to a mere 7.8 | Feb 04 21:11 |
| cubexyz | so an attacker can trigger a big fat BSOD | Feb 04 21:11 |
| cubexyz | it's a zero day in the SMB service | Feb 04 21:13 |
| cubexyz | shouldn't be difficult to block outbound SMB connections, but still... | Feb 04 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I posted that to Facebook, adding: | Feb 04 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, a comparable Linux kernel bug would have been patched by now and you could upgrade just the kernel package to fix the problem, and any Linux distribution would have 2-3 previous kernels installed and available in the boot menu in case you get a bad upgrade and can't start your computer. | Feb 04 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft forces you to take in "mega patches" that attempt to fix dozens of bugs at a time, and if your computer doesn't boot and you get a Blue Screen of Death instead, maybe you have to format the entire drive and reinstall Windows. :P | Feb 04 21:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really I am not surprised history of samba breaking windows is a old one. | Feb 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | As an aside, even though Apple usually does mega patches, you don't hear about widespread failures, but that's probably because they never have more than a handful of supported Macs to test them on. | Feb 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's approach doesn't work because there are hundreds of PC models released every year from dozens of manufacturers, so MSFT uses "telemetry" data and when they break a few thousand systems they can shut off the update to those models, but that doesn't help any of those people recover. | Feb 04 21:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://github.com/adobe/node-smb-server Not quite a simple as one would hope its very simple to remote exploit to execute code could run own custom SMB server/client on machine inside your network. | Feb 04 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - adobe/node-smb-server: A 100% JavaScript implementation of the SMB file sharing protocol. | Feb 04 21:19 | |
| cubexyz | I'm worried that microsoft is going to axe updates for XP completely | Feb 04 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/us/politics/visa-ban-trump-judge-james-robart.html?_r=0 | Feb 04 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - New York Times | Feb 04 21:19 | |
| cubexyz | so I asked microsoft if there was a backdoor to bypass activation, I thought it was reasonable | Feb 04 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | A federal judge in Washington state has issued a nationwide injunction to stop Trump's entire immigration executive order. | Feb 04 21:20 |
| cubexyz | that didn't go well (as you can imagine) | Feb 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Trump is furious. | Feb 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | I still would advise not leaving the US if you're here on any kind of immigrant visa. There's no telling what a higher court will do and if you leave now, you may not be allowed back in in another week. | Feb 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | I still would advise not leaving the US if you're here on any kind of immigrant visa. There's no telling what a higher court will do and if you leave now, you may not be allowed back in in another week. | Feb 04 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Feb 04 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, there's no telling what Adolf Trumpler's brownshirt minions at the DHS or CBP will do. Some are ignoring our court system. They should be held in contempt and arrested, but so far, the judges aren't doing that. | Feb 04 21:23 |
| cubexyz | well the future is going to be interesting | Feb 04 21:23 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's a big problem with XP and changing the motherboard | Feb 04 21:25 |
| cubexyz | I had to go through Microsoft's stupid robot system... it was very painful | Feb 04 21:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a built in back door to windows XP. Particular volume license keys and windows machines don't check if they are valid or not with XP. | Feb 04 21:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and most of those keys have already leaked. | Feb 04 21:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also people don't notice that even with Windows 10 on dell and the like the case has one license value on it but the installed OS on all the dell for a particular version of windows is all one single key. | Feb 04 21:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes that one single key is not the key on the box. | Feb 04 21:32 |
| cubexyz | I'm worried that microsoft could just blacklist a license key | Feb 04 21:33 |
| oiaohm | Dell license keys lets black list 200 million installs thank you. | Feb 04 21:35 |
| oiaohm | HP and so on are just as bad. | Feb 04 21:35 |
| cubexyz | M$ is ties the license key to the hardware | Feb 04 21:37 |
| cubexyz | changed the motherboard... had to re-activate | Feb 04 21:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Pre-installation << the windows XP keys are sitting on wikipedia. | Feb 04 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | System Locked Pre-installation - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qfiam ] | Feb 04 21:38 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: hardware makers making mass volumes of systems like being able to just clone image install. | Feb 04 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | The TSA isn't allowed to hire anyone. I wonder how all these idiots who voted Trump will feel by the summer when they have to spend four hours in line at the airport both ways to take their family to fucking Disney. | Feb 04 22:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/813472/flying-out-of-ph-be-at-airport-4-hours-early only 4 hours long? | Feb 04 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsinfo.inquirer.net | Flying out of PH? Be at airport 4 hours early | Inquirer News [ http://ur1.ca/qfifm ] | Feb 04 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't understand how Disney World makes billions every year. | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | There was a time when people found this entertaining? | Feb 04 22:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: insanity would be if it gets to 12 hours long so you waste a day at each end. | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I liked Jim Gaffigan on Disney. | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Then there's my favorite ride. The air conditioned shuttle bus back to the hotel." | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | "I stood in line for an hour to ride the Dumbo ride. I realized that I was the dumbo. There's just gonna be a guy up there with a mirror going 'Dumbo! Dumbo!". | Feb 04 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Now you know why dad was always angry. 'How can I spend an enormous amount of money, be miserable, and listen to the entire family complaining anyway. Disney! Yay!" | Feb 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | "I hope you're happy, kids. It was this or college!" | Feb 04 22:18 |
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| oiaohm | Really I guess disney has to be better than movie world was here in Australia when it first opened. | Feb 04 22:18 |
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| cubexyz | back in 2012 wired magazine ran an article on unfixable computers | Jan 29 02:26 |
| cubexyz | they said the statistics show that about 1/3 of computers break by the 4h year | Jan 29 02:26 |
| cubexyz | which leads to this: | Jan 29 02:27 |
| cubexyz | https://www.damninteresting.com/the-pit-of-life-and-death/ | Jan 29 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.damninteresting.com | The Pit of Life and Death • Damn Interesting | Jan 29 02:28 | |
| cubexyz | The Berkeley Pit | Jan 29 02:29 |
| cubexyz | ok, the ASUS UX32VD Zenbook got the highest repairability score 8/10 | Jan 29 02:51 |
| cubexyz | coreboot support is a real crapshoot though | Jan 29 02:54 |
| cubexyz | in #coreboot they are always talking about Lenovo X200 | Jan 29 02:54 |
| cubexyz | so I'll say get a used X200 or a chromebook | Jan 29 02:55 |
| cubexyz | there's nothing ideal though | Jan 29 02:56 |
| cubexyz | it could be that chromebox + external monitor is better | Jan 29 02:57 |
| cubexyz | no need to worry about taking the laptop apart to try to fix the monitor if it goes bad | Jan 29 02:57 |
| cubexyz | and if you got a small enough monitor it would be quasi-portable | Jan 29 02:58 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: laptop most common failure point is the cable between the screen and mainbody | Jan 29 10:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KirkSiegler/status/825456400822202368 | Jan 29 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KirkSiegler: CNN headline right now is pretty extraordinary https://t.co/Vgn4JyVssC | Jan 29 10:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KirkSiegler: CNN headline right now is pretty extraordinary https://t.co/Vgn4JyVssC | Jan 29 10:32 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz I left 6 years ago... wouldn't blame it on BHO.(although he was hideous imho). it is a systemic problem.. | Jan 29 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WorldGoneCraZ/status/825652023353868288 | Jan 29 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WorldGoneCraZ: @schestowitz fyi not true.. it took me only 5 minutes to find an attack in Spain 11 Americans killed .. didn't research further yet.. busy | Jan 29 10:33 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Jan 29 14:01 |
| cubexyz | the 26 dimension thing I think is from string theory | Jan 29 14:02 |
| MinceR | i thought that was only 11 | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | wonder how they came up with that | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | well, read the comic :) | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | I think it's 10, 11 or 26 | Jan 29 14:02 |
| cubexyz | http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/292919/why-are-there-specifically-10-11-or-26-dimensions-in-string-theory | Jan 29 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-physics.stackexchange.com | spacetime - Why are there specifically 10, 11, or 26 dimensions in string theory? - Physics Stack Exchange | Jan 29 14:03 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 29 14:03 |
| cubexyz | I think it's a bosonic string theory thing | Jan 29 14:04 |
| cubexyz | easy reading for the weekend ;) | Jan 29 14:04 |
| oiaohm | String theory is not a single theory that brings lots of problems. | Jan 29 14:06 |
| oiaohm | So someone could write a new string theory as long it has the maths could have a unlimtied number of dimensions | Jan 29 14:07 |
| cubexyz | ok... I know I've heard that 26 number before | Jan 29 14:08 |
| cubexyz | it was on Star Trek NG.... The Nth Degree | Jan 29 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | Why people give so much attention to that though? | Jan 29 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | What a dissapointment will it be if a new superior theory will arise and it'll state "there are 4 dimensions". | Jan 29 14:10 |
| cubexyz | well, I'm just a bit curious how they came up with it | Jan 29 14:12 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 29 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Well, I mean, in general :). | Jan 29 14:12 |
| cubexyz | that number 26 pops up in other areas | Jan 29 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | I'm on the boring side because I think we'd notice if there are more than 3 dimensions of space. | Jan 29 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | unless all other dimensions are completely and totally empty | Jan 29 14:15 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: In fact the problem is we have with gravity distortion on space time. | Jan 29 14:15 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so X Y and Z distances are not exactly constants. | Jan 29 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Notice in a sense "a 6 dimensional particle flies by and makes a big mess" | Jan 29 14:15 |
| cubexyz | there's lots of things beyond our perception | Jan 29 14:16 |
| MinceR | they're not empty, they're small | Jan 29 14:16 |
| MinceR | though i suspect even that would mean issues in thermodynamics | Jan 29 14:16 |
| MinceR | (i seem to remember something about degrees of freedom) | Jan 29 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If our universe is 3 dimensional, then all other dimensions of space will be infinitely bigger than the universe no matter how small they are %). | Jan 29 14:17 |
| cubexyz | like the visible spectrum of light is a pretty small range | Jan 29 14:17 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/02/gravitational-waves-einsteins-ripples-spacetime-spotted-first-time << basically we can detect ripples in space time. | Jan 29 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencemag.org | Gravitational waves, Einstein's ripples in spacetime, spotted for first time | Science | AAAS | Jan 29 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | If the 4 dimensiions of x y z and t was everything those ripples would not happen. | Jan 29 14:18 |
| oiaohm | So we know there is more than 4 but how many more than 4 is the problem. | Jan 29 14:18 |
| cubexyz | and of those 26 dimensions, 25 of them are spatial dimensions | Jan 29 14:18 |
| cubexyz | beats me how they came up with that | Jan 29 14:19 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Well, shoot :). | Jan 29 14:19 |
| cubexyz | oh good... there's Bosonic String Theory for Dummies | Jan 29 14:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/ | Jan 29 14:20 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/bosonic-string-theory-25-space-dimensions/ | Jan 29 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bosonic String Theory: 25 Space Dimensions - dummies | Jan 29 14:21 | |
| cubexyz | why does it always do that on me | Jan 29 14:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: from the string theories 6 dimensions to who know how many. The lowest complexity string theory is only 6 dimensions | Jan 29 14:23 |
| oiaohm | At this stage will don't have a theory that explains all observational results. | Jan 29 14:24 |
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| XRevan86 | > "Obama is still a neoliberal politician" | Jan 29 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | darn, I forgot what "neoliberal" means again | Jan 29 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | liberal: human rights, libertarian: unregulated market economy | Jan 29 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | what's neoliberal? | Jan 29 14:48 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism | Jan 29 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Neoliberalism - Wikipedia | Jan 29 14:48 | |
| XRevan86 | Exactly the same thing as libertarianism then? | Jan 29 14:49 |
| cubexyz | ummm | Jan 29 14:49 |
| cubexyz | I think libertarianism is a bit different | Jan 29 14:50 |
| cubexyz | economic and social liberalism | Jan 29 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | So, libertarianism is neoliberalism with a touch of anarcho-capitalism? | Jan 29 14:52 |
| cubexyz | libertarians would be against TARP and bailouts for example | Jan 29 14:52 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Wouldn't neoliberals? | Jan 29 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | those are regulations after all | Jan 29 14:53 |
| cubexyz | no | Jan 29 14:54 |
| cubexyz | "They also tend to believe that an appropriate role for government exists to correct market errors, and that government should be heavily involved in both regulating and partnering with certain businesses." | Jan 29 14:54 |
| cubexyz | as Obama probably saw TARP as a way to correct a 'market error' | Jan 29 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | > These include extensive economic liberalisation policies such as privatisation, fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society. | Jan 29 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | from Wikipedia | Jan 29 14:55 |
| XRevan86 | on neoliberalism | Jan 29 14:55 |
| cubexyz | you're getting into buzzword territory | Jan 29 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What a terminological mess. | Jan 29 14:57 |
| cubexyz | I mean, who actually calls themselves a neoliberal? | Jan 29 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | the neo- part seems redundant | Jan 29 14:58 |
| cubexyz | ok... here's a dictionary definition: | Jan 29 14:58 |
| cubexyz | "an outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions andan outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions and opposition to big business and military buildup. " opposition to big business and military buildup. | Jan 29 14:59 |
| cubexyz | ugh again | Jan 29 14:59 |
| cubexyz | "an outgrowth of the U.S. liberal movement, beginning in the late 1960s, that modified somewhat its traditional endorsement of all trade unions and opposition to big business and military buildup." | Jan 29 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | > opposition to big business and military buildup | Jan 29 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | That's pro-regulation then? | Jan 29 14:59 |
| cubexyz | yes I think so | Jan 29 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | which is the opposite of what Wikipedia states | Jan 29 15:00 |
| cubexyz | yes, one contradicts the other | Jan 29 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | So, liberals are in the same pit with the commies :). | Jan 29 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | "communism is close to anarchy" and "commies teh people who give all their crap to the govt" | Jan 29 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | opposites blended into one term | Jan 29 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why it's so common. | Jan 29 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, political terms that mean opposite things. | Jan 29 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | Annoying, that's for sure. | Jan 29 15:05 |
| cubexyz | political double talk | Jan 29 15:05 |
| cubexyz | it's hard to pin down | Jan 29 15:05 |
| cubexyz | no wonder there's so many arguments | Jan 29 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah. Even between people who basically agree with each other. | Jan 29 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | on the constructive part, but not on how they identify themselves :). | Jan 29 15:06 |
| cubexyz | a mathematician could argue with the dictionary definition of the word "set" | Jan 29 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | set foo=bar | Jan 29 15:07 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: A different appliance, people understand that. | Jan 29 15:07 |
| cubexyz | there's a concept I came across years ago | Jan 29 15:09 |
| cubexyz | it's called the "sociological sidestep" | Jan 29 15:09 |
| cubexyz | it happens when words change their meaning over time | Jan 29 15:10 |
| cubexyz | e.g. the term liberal could change over time and even mean different things in different countries | Jan 29 15:10 |
| XRevan86 | I guess everything starts meaning the stereotype of itself over time. | Jan 29 15:13 |
| cubexyz | also this: | Jan 29 15:18 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism | Jan 29 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Historical revisionism - Wikipedia | Jan 29 15:19 | |
| XRevan86 | Indeed. | Jan 29 15:19 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/YpHFYLg.jpg | Jan 29 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | What did "Founding Fathers" stand for? Liberalism? Giving profits to corporations, got it. | Jan 29 15:20 |
| MinceR | afaict most "liberals" and "libertarians" are not liberal nor libertarian at all | Jan 29 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A joke (the pic)? | Jan 29 15:21 |
| MinceR | well, such humans are a joke | Jan 29 15:21 |
| cubexyz | I'll settle for logically consistent :) | Jan 29 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know if that's dark humour or a tragedy. | Jan 29 15:22 |
| MinceR | and of course most "democrats" and "republicans" don't really support democracy or republics | Jan 29 15:23 |
| cubexyz | kind of like those Dihydrogen monoxide jokes :) | Jan 29 15:24 |
| cubexyz | can cause suffocation! | Jan 29 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The worst part is that representative democracy is what republics have. | Jan 29 15:25 |
| XRevan86 | terminologically speaking one can place an equal mark | Jan 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | "The Times of London is reporting that Theresa May's team says she held hands with Trump at Trump's request, because he is afraid of stairs." | Jan 29 15:26 |
| XRevan86 | Good for them. | Jan 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4209 | Jan 29 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion” | Jan 29 15:28 | |
| cubexyz | I think the original idea behind republicanism was rejection of monarchy and aristrocracy | Jan 29 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: One more step from just representative democracy? | Jan 29 15:30 |
| cubexyz | that's what the "framers" wanted | Jan 29 15:33 |
| cubexyz | not a pure democracy, but a representative democracy, as you say | Jan 29 15:34 |
| MinceR | and they're getting neither | Jan 29 15:34 |
| cubexyz | direct democracy would be before the constitution was formed | Jan 29 15:35 |
| cubexyz | around 1787... this being the US one | Jan 29 15:36 |
| cubexyz | in Canada we have a parliamentary government, just another type of representive democracy | Jan 29 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: How fair Canada is to minor parties? | Jan 29 15:39 |
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| cubexyz | I don't think anyone has won any seats outside of Conservative, Liberal or NDP | Jan 29 15:42 |
| cubexyz | I think the Greens got one seat a few years ago | Jan 29 15:42 |
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| cubexyz | the low population territories like Nunavut and Northwest Territories have a consenous government which is a bit different from the provinces | Jan 29 15:47 |
| cubexyz | and there's also aboriginal self-government | Jan 29 15:47 |
| cubexyz | I don't think the consensus government has any political parties | Jan 29 15:48 |
| cubexyz | kind of like Fiji or the Isle of Man | Jan 29 15:49 |
| cubexyz | I don't really know how fair it is though :) | Jan 29 15:49 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 29 19:50 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yay codecs | Jan 29 19:51 |
| razielle_tzu | yay codecs? | Jan 29 19:52 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yep got my vidoe its a mp4 though | Jan 29 19:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so not cant just play that on ubuntu touch | Jan 29 19:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well sound I can | Jan 29 19:56 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but without picture | Jan 29 19:56 |
| razielle_tzu | ah | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, seems going to need an actsaul lap top to play it | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or maybe a android device ? | Jan 29 19:57 |
| razielle_tzu | android would play it, with mxplayer or the beta for vlc | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah seem kind of issues as desktop linux | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yay may just play on my ultra tablet later | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | remix os | Jan 29 19:57 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | not sure where charger is for lap top right now so | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | however I'll have to give myself a short url it seems to then, since its got some crazy link for download | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, its my speech | Jan 29 19:58 |
| razielle_tzu | fair | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I remember this kind of thing before | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with a previous one | Jan 29 19:58 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | then being like ah Ill play on windows then | Jan 29 19:59 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that was with older net bok | Jan 29 19:59 |
| razielle_tzu | i've never had issues playing stuff | Jan 29 20:01 |
| oiaohm | Mp4 is a package format. Does not say the codec inside. Its way more than possible to end up with unsupported codec be it windows or linux. Now if you are dealing with something using odd ball codecs this is one thing. | Jan 29 20:02 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: There is a Linux trap. If you are using hardware accelerated play back and you run a update that update you video card driver you can get the black screen with audio. Issue is miss matched kernel driver and video accerlation library. | Jan 29 20:04 |
| razielle_tzu | i use vlc or sometimes mpc... never had issues playing anything | Jan 29 20:04 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: windows in that case forces reboot. | Jan 29 20:04 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, could be | Jan 29 20:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, think may of had that kind of thing on desktop ubuntu or whatever to | Jan 29 20:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I said it was the tablet now so ubuntu touch but it is base don ubuntu 15.04 with some other stuff put in | Jan 29 20:05 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah vlc is usaully ok, but can't just run that with Ubuntu touch | Jan 29 20:06 |
| oiaohm | You hear about people complain about windows 10 auto updates triggering windows to reboot and losing there work its items where Linux a few applications break but it told you you should restart it. | Jan 29 20:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there is a way if I Want to hack some stuf and set up my own liberitne container but nah | Jan 29 20:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | also they are moving on replaceing this with a snappy based one based on ubuntu 16.04 | Jan 29 20:06 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | tablet should get a update for that, but it seems my MX 4 phone may not, and the bq 4.5 which I don't really use anymore anyway wont | Jan 29 20:07 |
| razielle_tzu | ubuntu touch is not mature enough to do much imo | Jan 29 20:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well is and isn't | Jan 29 20:07 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but now its on a complete freeze except for bug fixses and seucrity updates | Jan 29 20:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | whilst the nex major verison is being sorted out of it | Jan 29 20:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | means certain apps will have to be re done as snappy pakages as well, since this old click stuff is deprecated or will be | Jan 29 20:08 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, thats ashame though if the Meizu MX 4 can't just go forward with the times, since thats generally a quite nice phone hardwarewise | Jan 29 20:09 |
| oiaohm | The graphic driver update and video playblack black video playback on Linux is a generic problem. With VLC and most other Linux playblack programs you can force software rendering mode. | Jan 29 20:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ok it can't do the screen to tv, hdmi stuff, but ah well. the didsplay adpater stuff | Jan 29 20:10 |
| oiaohm | Reason why I know this fault well is at times I have my desktop system running stuff that need to go for about 4 days. | Jan 29 20:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, right, but as mentioend above, can't just run vlc on ubuntu touch since.... | Jan 29 20:10 |
| oiaohm | So linux update in middle is grin and bare it. | Jan 29 20:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe this is the last time I am taking the Meizu MX 4 with me to Brussels, not sure yet | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, maybe I'll have reason enough, valid reasons enough, to buy a supported new UBuntu Phone in the next two years | Jan 29 20:11 |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Jan 29 20:11 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | adnd that's something else | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no new devices | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | until this snappy ubuntu stuff also known as ubuntu personal | Jan 29 20:11 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | is sorted out properly enough | Jan 29 20:12 |
| razielle_tzu | tbh right now i hold ubuntu phones in the same way i hold m$ phones.... pretty, decent hardware but kinda crappy still regardless | Jan 29 20:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | well the os is limiting sure | Jan 29 20:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | the os interface unity 8 is nice though :) | Jan 29 20:12 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, oh and those ubuntu phones, were really android phones | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so can actsaully put android on them to | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if wanting to | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | repacing it with android | Jan 29 20:13 |
| razielle_tzu | a nice ui doesn't save it when it limits what you can do when it's supposed to be a portable version of ubuntu | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | or buy one with android first, and can probably put ubuntu touch on after replacing android | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, the app store the main app store is still lacking | Jan 29 20:13 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | there's not that much in any catergy | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | games, graphics, etc etc | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but that should change when this new ubuntu snappy version should take over. old apps will die, or have to be re done so | Jan 29 20:14 |
| razielle_tzu | i've tested a few snapshots of touch and i find it sucked | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | for example dekko the email client is dead in the old form | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but apparnatly moving on nicely in the newer snappy form | Jan 29 20:14 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | going by omgubuntu | Jan 29 20:15 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well if comparing it to recent android versions or ios, and wanting a load of apps as well, then yeah it isn't that good really | Jan 29 20:15 |
| razielle_tzu | nothing worked on the snapshot, i could connect to wifi but still couldn't do /anything/, no calls, camera didn't work, nothing could be updated | Jan 29 20:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Salifish os can do more, but my Jolla phone not coming to Brussels with me this year | Jan 29 20:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, uh on which device? | Jan 29 20:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | its mostly supported on the commrcail devices so | Jan 29 20:16 |
| oiaohm | You know when a platform is ready for use is wine vlc mainline talks about supporting it at least. | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | let's see... i tried it on my tab2, s3 mini (custom snapshot port) and my note | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | all of them were porterd by decent porters | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah bingo | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | devices that aren't supported | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | and literally nothing but wifi worked | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and not even by the unoffical ubports project it seems | Jan 29 20:17 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and so that's to be expected not much working there | Jan 29 20:17 |
| razielle_tzu | a dev-locked snapshot worked but it was locked to the account of the dev that set it up | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah the unoffical ports | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | don't work so well | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in gneral it seems | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | except for those few where ubports say they mostly work | Jan 29 20:18 |
| razielle_tzu | the tab2 was on the list of supported devices but still had a lot of problems | Jan 29 20:18 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't know if it's still on the list | Jan 29 20:18 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | if wanting ubuntu touch to work properly, need a commerical device really for now | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that I guess to may change with snappy and what not that is coming | Jan 29 20:19 |
| razielle_tzu | i don't like unity so why would i get a phone that uses it? | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I wasn't so keen on unity myself before | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but now I quite like it | Jan 29 20:19 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | unity 7 and 8 | Jan 29 20:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I still like GNOME Shell, but find that more boring now as well so | Jan 29 20:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, can probably hack ubuntu touch to run other interfaces by the way | Jan 29 20:20 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I asked once | Jan 29 20:20 |
| *razielle_tzu shrugs | Jan 29 20:20 | |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: android-x86 that is a non google port so a unofficial shows something else. | Jan 29 20:20 |
| oiaohm | One of the biggest problems with unofficial ports is not clearly stating what percentage of the hardware they really support. | Jan 29 20:21 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah I guess | Jan 29 20:21 |
| oiaohm | Even official ports you can have that issue from time to time for different OSs. | Jan 29 20:22 |
| oiaohm | If you have like 70 hardware support but the remaining 30 percent is like the battery changing you are kinda stuffed. | Jan 29 20:22 |
| razielle_tzu | the images i tested were created by xda devs rather than people linked to ubuntu only, they're known for porting all kinds of stuff and getting it working but the devices i tested have had their images abandoned for three years now | Jan 29 20:22 |
| oiaohm | That is another issue with ports is people doing what are called one time ports with no interested in support them going forwards. We saw this first with netbook Linux unique OSs. | Jan 29 20:23 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah some wil lgive up | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | on porting | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's the thing with unoffical ports to | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | no funding no porting | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | even ubuports is strugging for funding it seems | Jan 29 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | in fact he would port full time as a job, if he had funding it seems | Jan 29 20:24 |
| oiaohm | No that logical fails when you look at android-x86 that has basically no funding. | Jan 29 20:24 |
| oiaohm | Difference is they did not attempt to do it solo. | Jan 29 20:25 |
| oiaohm | So a port without a group behind it will fail at some point. | Jan 29 20:25 |
| oiaohm | This is even true for Linux Distribution. | Jan 29 20:25 |
| oiaohm | So someone could write a set of rules to assess if you should go anywhere near a particular port or distribution. | Jan 29 20:26 |
| oiaohm | Thing to remember we have seen commercial distribution disappear for the same problem too small of group. | Jan 29 20:26 |
| razielle_tzu | or losing the people with key skills | Jan 29 20:27 |
| razielle_tzu | hmmm buy the codecs for the pi or not... | Jan 29 20:28 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: if you suffer from losing a key person and what you do is failing you development team was too small to start off with. | Jan 29 20:28 |
| razielle_tzu | i know but i've seen it happen | Jan 29 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | so have I to som extent | Jan 29 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | Mageia uhmm | Jan 29 20:28 |
| razielle_tzu | they were looking for other people to add to the team but the main dev had to leave for various reasons before they could add anyone | Jan 29 20:28 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | main QA tester got a job | Jan 29 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that's probably to do with the 6th release being delayed as well | Jan 29 20:29 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | sommeone got quite ill as well who did things etc | Jan 29 20:29 |
| oiaohm | Its something that need to be addressed how projects in that case can be passed to some group who job is to find required projects a new team. | Jan 29 20:30 |
| razielle_tzu | no one wanted to pass it off to someone else but couldn't find anyone to pick it up so they just quit the project | Jan 29 20:30 |
| oiaohm | These problems happen with closed source software as well. So it a universal software development problem with no good problem. | Jan 29 20:30 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | with no good solutions you mean ? | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and yeah h eh most people have no idea really | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | how compalcted software can be to make | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | main tain etc etc | Jan 29 20:31 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | they just use what the companies sell them etc | Jan 29 20:31 |
| oiaohm | "No Good Problem" is having to tell person they have found a bit of software that does the task perfect but you cannot let them using because its not maintained so you have to tell them the program is no good. | Jan 29 20:32 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jan 29 20:32 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh | Jan 29 20:36 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD slaps razielle_tzu around with big computers, running unity 8, untill they love it | Jan 29 20:37 | |
| *razielle_tzu stabs SebthreeBQM10HD in the kidneys | Jan 29 20:37 | |
| oiaohm | You hear the open source world talk about we have a problem open source lets you scratch itch. Then failure to consider teaming up with people with the same issue so 100 and 1 project doing the same thing but all them failing. | Jan 29 20:37 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD sends some snow to oiaohm in the post, non existen snow imaginaeyer snow, oh whoops it melted thats a wet parcel | Jan 29 20:38 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yeah thats ounds like linux :D | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, five file managers | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | five dm's | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc etc | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | three office suites or more | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | etc | Jan 29 20:39 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh and a few thounsad or so distros as well | Jan 29 20:39 |
| oiaohm | If you look in Windows freeware you see the same problem. | Jan 29 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Except worse you have no source to start a team around it. | Jan 29 20:39 |
| *SebthreeBQM10HD was showing a guy some interface choice at the LUG yesterday, ok might have confussed him a little, but he will be going mint or ubuntu it seems anyway, a new perosn | Jan 29 20:40 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, yes lots of freeware out there for windows | Jan 29 20:40 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | random programs for this and that | Jan 29 20:40 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers there are 10 file managers for windows. | Jan 29 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Comparison of file managers - Wikipedia | Jan 29 20:41 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oh? | Jan 29 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I knew like noe got ported or something, but | Jan 29 20:41 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | I think like one altenraive interface to | Jan 29 20:41 |
| oiaohm | Linux/bsd/unix have 17 all the same. | Jan 29 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, can't just go on your link, but is konquerer via kde for windows in the list :D ? | Jan 29 20:42 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ubuntu touch is a bit sucky uhmm | Jan 29 20:43 |
| oiaohm | That is in cross platform | Jan 29 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, yeah well more so if offline, see why I will take the phone with me, but not the tablet :D ? | Jan 29 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, next weekend will be awsom or should be | Jan 29 20:43 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: notice 22 closed source file managers for windows that you are meant to pay for. | Jan 29 20:43 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | oiaohm, massive open souorce linux event in anothre country again : | Jan 29 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | d | Jan 29 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that going to | Jan 29 20:44 |
| oiaohm | At this point Linux fragmentation starts not long that bad. | Jan 29 20:44 |
| oiaohm | Most people totally ingore how fragmented closed source on windows is. | Jan 29 20:44 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | yeah I guess | Jan 29 20:44 |
| oiaohm | https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/2rn775/best_tiled_window_manager_for_windows/ << most people not aware that you can change windows manager under windows and there are massive numbers of them. | Jan 29 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Best Tiled Window Manager for Windows? : windows [ http://ur1.ca/qer4z ] | Jan 29 20:46 | |
| oiaohm | Again a lot of them you are expected to pay to find out if they suit your need or not. | Jan 29 20:46 |
| oiaohm | SebthreeBQM10HD: when you seriously look inside windows closed source for how munch fragmented it is. It surprising how light on fragmenting the open source world is. But its still fragmented too much. | Jan 29 20:50 |
| razielle_tzu | isn't the biggest fragmentation caused by the package types? | Jan 29 20:52 |
| razielle_tzu | everything else boils down to choice of the user | Jan 29 20:52 |
| oiaohm | You would think it would be package type but the answer is no. People forget the program alien exist that can convert package type. | Jan 29 20:53 |
| oiaohm | The biggest issue is dependency hell if you convert the package type the converted package fails due to dependency differences. | Jan 29 20:54 |
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| razielle_tzu | oh yeah, i forgot about that | Jan 29 20:54 |
| razielle_tzu | i can see why ubuntu going with snap would help reduce that but then you have all different versions of the same thing taking up space within the snap package | Jan 29 20:55 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/we-are-special | Jan 29 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - We Are Special | Jan 29 21:03 | |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, they have a way to make things smaller snapwise | Jan 29 21:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, an gnome has flatpack | Jan 29 21:10 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | UBuntu GNOME 17.04 alpha 2 can support it appatny to | Jan 29 21:10 |
| oiaohm | Biggest flatpak issue is Nvidia opengl driver still don't have a proper access method for it. | Jan 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | how dependent is it on systemd? | Jan 29 21:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://flatpak.org/faq.html#Is_Flatpak_tied_to_systemd_ Not at all it falls back to other options of systemd is not available. It was at first but the long term plan with flatpak always stated working with other solutions and they delivered. | Jan 29 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flatpak.org | Flatpak Frequently Asked Questions | Jan 29 21:20 | |
| MinceR | sure, but how workable is it in that case? | Jan 29 21:22 |
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| oiaohm | flatpak is 100 percent workable on non systemd systems. https://github.com/projectatomic/bubblewrap this is want current flatpak depend on for cgroup sandboxes. | Jan 29 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - projectatomic/bubblewrap: Unprivileged sandboxing tool [ http://ur1.ca/qerbs ] | Jan 29 21:25 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so flatpak does not care if system has systemd or not. | Jan 29 21:25 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jan 29 21:26 |
| oiaohm | flatpak guys are considering supporting freebsd Linux emulation. | Jan 29 21:27 |
| oiaohm | that could in time include windows Linux emulation for bash for Linux. | Jan 29 21:27 |
| oiaohm | Opps | Jan 29 21:28 |
| oiaohm | bash for windows | Jan 29 21:28 |
| MinceR | provided m$ develops that into something usable, as opposed to just a tech demo | Jan 29 21:28 |
| oiaohm | You have to remember solarias has Linux emulation so do most Unix envornments as well. Linux userspace API was choosen and the Unix uniform API because the Unix guys could not agree to use each others for syscalls. | Jan 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | solaris is dying anyway | Jan 29 21:34 |
| MinceR | it had the fatal misfortune of being owned by Sun :> | Jan 29 21:34 |
| schestowitz | or made by it? | Jan 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | that's irrelevant | Jan 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | if it wasn't owned by sun, LawSuit Larry wouldn't have gotten his filthy hands on it | Jan 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | and therefore he wouldn't be able to destroy it | Jan 29 21:35 |
| oiaohm | http://0pointer.net/blog/avoiding-cve-2016-8655-with-systemd.html and we are starting to see systemd do what it promised. Of providing security restrictions to services no matter the LSM in usage. | Jan 29 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.net | Avoiding CVE-2016-8655 with systemd | Jan 29 21:40 | |
| MinceR | yeah, they restrict security pretty well | Jan 29 21:41 |
| MinceR | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/thoughts_on_the_systemd_root_exploit | Jan 29 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agwa.name | Thoughts on the Systemd Root Exploit [ http://ur1.ca/qereb ] | Jan 29 21:41 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we are quite a few versions past that one. | Jan 29 21:43 |
| MinceR | i wonder how many "stable" deployments of cancerd still have that version | Jan 29 21:43 |
| oiaohm | Its also interesting that that fault is only in exactly 1 version. | Jan 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure that was the last security hole on it | Jan 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | it's perfect now! | Jan 29 21:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-1999-1329/ << the said reality is cve number rate sysvinit and systemd are running about the same. | Jan 29 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cvedetails.com | CVE-1999-1329 : Buffer overflow in SysVInit in Red Hat Linux 5.1 and earlier allows local users to gain privileges. [ http://ur1.ca/qerf5 ] | Jan 29 21:45 | |
| oiaohm | Really we have not had people making init systems for a long time with decent grade of quality control. | Jan 29 21:46 |
| oiaohm | I was hoping openrc would have been a init system designed with decent quality control. | Jan 29 21:46 |
| MinceR | still trying to paint that blob of bloat as "an init system"? | Jan 29 21:46 |
| MinceR | one way to control quality would be to stop adding more and more crap on top while the basics still aren't worked out | Jan 29 21:47 |
| MinceR | simplicity, privilege separation | Jan 29 21:47 |
| oiaohm | You are right about basics. But the problem is one of the basics that is missing. Name me a good multi application IPC under Linux that is part of the Linux kernel. | Jan 29 21:50 |
| oiaohm | Its something missing completely from the Posix standard as well. | Jan 29 21:51 |
| MinceR | there was one, but i forgot the name | Jan 29 21:51 |
| MinceR | it was even suggested instead of kdbus | Jan 29 21:52 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure why it has to be in the kernel | Jan 29 21:52 |
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| MinceR | afaik the second excuse for kdbus was that they screwed up their virtualization and needed kernel code to help with ipc | Jan 29 21:52 |
| oiaohm | It was suggested then everyone found heck it was lacking privilege seperation it presumed all applications would be interacting at the same privilage. | Jan 29 21:52 |
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| MinceR | (the first of course being "we can't be arsed to profile our code, but we're sure it's slow because of ring switching overhead") | Jan 29 21:53 |
| oiaohm | dbus comes into existance in the first place because a type of IPC is missing. | Jan 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | dbus is userspace though | Jan 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | (also, badly designed, but that could be fixed, probably) | Jan 29 21:54 |
| oiaohm | dbus is decendant from other userspace attempts at that from of IPC. | Jan 29 21:54 |
| MinceR | ah, it was TIPC | Jan 29 21:56 |
| MinceR | http://tipc.sourceforge.net/ | Jan 29 21:56 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the other one http://tipc.sourceforge.net/features.shtml | Jan 29 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tipc.sourceforge.net | TIPC Features | Jan 29 22:02 | |
| oiaohm | TIPC is only designed to work when you have a network stack. | Jan 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | i wonder if you can still work without a network stack, considering dependencies in netlink and whatever | Jan 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | s/in/on/ | Jan 29 22:03 |
| MinceR | also, dbus needs a networks stack for unix domain sockets, doesn't it? | Jan 29 22:04 |
| oiaohm | TIPC is designed to require IP addresses.d | Jan 29 22:04 |
| oiaohm | dbus can use a local file socket without network addressing. | Jan 29 22:04 |
| oiaohm | Again using a local file socket this means kernel stuff like cgroups and LSM cannot clearly control what in heck is going on. | Jan 29 22:05 |
| MinceR | s/rks/rk/ | Jan 29 22:05 |
| oiaohm | The solution for sysvinit and before was hey lets make PID 1 special so it can block particular signals. | Jan 29 22:06 |
| oiaohm | and not bother exactly validating if user should be sending those signals to the init system. | Jan 29 22:07 |
| oiaohm | So this is just a horrible historic mess. | Jan 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | i was pretty sure whether you can send a signal to a process depended on your user id | Jan 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | and the process' user id | Jan 29 22:07 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | ping | Jan 29 22:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit validation is basically all rights to control sysvinit or no rights to control sysvinit. This is not good when you might want to give a person the right to reboot a system but not the right to halt it. | Jan 29 22:11 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/7CwTih1.jpg | Jan 29 22:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that can be implemented outside sysvinit and outside the kernel | Jan 29 22:12 |
| MinceR | for example, via sudo | Jan 29 22:12 |
| MinceR | (or via policykit, but policykit is cancerous garbage) | Jan 29 22:12 |
| oiaohm | policykit is depending on dbus todo it. | Jan 29 22:12 |
| oiaohm | sudo you are depending on other layers of things todo it. | Jan 29 22:13 |
| MinceR | i thought i was only depending on setuid root, but whatever | Jan 29 22:13 |
| oiaohm | You run sudo you have to use a command to send message to sysvinit right and if that command has a bug sysvinit could recieve a different message. | Jan 29 22:14 |
| oiaohm | security the move moving parts the more likely something will go wrong. | Jan 29 22:15 |
| oiaohm | move should have been more | Jan 29 22:15 |
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| MinceR | i'm pretty sure both kill and telinit are much simpler than any component of systemd | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | and also much more mature | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | 29 231504 < oiaohm> security the move moving parts the more likely something will go wrong. | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | precisely | Jan 29 22:19 |
| MinceR | this is exactly why systemd is a huge security threat | Jan 29 22:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is missing it. telinit and kill might be simpler but then to use the thing you have people using sudo that has a run as root and other items like it. So user is having to lift privilege to send a message. Then in the process of lifting privillage you are partly hiding who is sending message. | Jan 29 22:26 |
| MinceR | regardless of how you're doing it, you're eventually going to control a process of higher privilege | Jan 29 22:26 |
| MinceR | it's literally what you wanted to do | Jan 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | as for who is sending the message, i'm pretty sure it can be logged | Jan 29 22:27 |
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| oiaohm | what you will see with sudo is root is logged as sending the shutdown/reboot message. | Jan 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | sudo doesn't know who used sudo to run the command? i really doubt that | Jan 29 22:28 |
| oiaohm | can get confusing when 2 users issue commands around the same time. | Jan 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | no, they get their own sudo process | Jan 29 22:29 |
| oiaohm | two users send shutdown what user in fact did the shutdown. Since the init logged root as the one doing it you don't know. | Jan 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | you can log who told init to do it | Jan 29 22:31 |
| MinceR | also, if it happened at the same time, it doesn't matter | Jan 29 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Problem is where sudo user change the value init log is user 0 | Jan 29 22:31 |
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| oiaohm | this is why you want a proper IPC so the user can message directly. And be filtered on what they can and cannot do. | Jan 29 22:31 |
| oiaohm | So you get solid logs for who is doing what. | Jan 29 22:32 |
| MinceR | this a is pretty weak argument for bloating init | Jan 29 22:32 |
| MinceR | also, iirc there are minimal inits where pid1 has practically no role in shutting down | Jan 29 22:33 |
| oiaohm | To get features into the Linux kernel you have to demonstrate usage. So this results in having to built a init using horible extras in PID 1 demoing how a IPC controlled init can work. | Jan 29 22:37 |
| oiaohm | So some of systemd nightmare is a particular form of IPC missing then having to work around it. | Jan 29 22:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and some of it is pure bloat and poor quality control. Remember systemd developers started with the idea they would make the demo then quickly get kdbus so then be able to throw a huge blocks of code away. | Jan 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | yay, cancerd exists to poison the kernel | Jan 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | that's a relief | Jan 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | remember that "quickly get kdbus" involved porting kdbus into the kernel with as little thinking as possible | Jan 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | why can't they wait with kernel features until they have a _legitimate_ use for them? | Jan 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | i.e. not a techdemo that is also an NSA backdoor | Jan 29 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Remember a feature will not appear in Linux kernel without a demoed usage. Does not matter if there is a legitimate reason for the feature. It why it took so long to get tipc included in the Linux kernel back then. | Jan 29 22:44 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: basically there is a chicken and egg problem with linux kernel development. | Jan 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | that the chicken and the egg are designing it, instead of software engineers? | Jan 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | i take that back, that's an insult to chickens and eggs | Jan 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is not designed software. | Jan 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is blocks of designed software stuck together. | Jan 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | If Linux kernel was designed software having 1000+ developers working on it at a time would be impossible. | Jan 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | and apparently also some crap in staging, like the hype-V thing with "/etc/init.d/networking restart" (or something very similar) hardcoded :> | Jan 29 22:47 |
| oiaohm | So some of systemd is the Linux kernel development model. | Jan 29 22:48 |
| MinceR | seems more accurate to say "some of the Linux kernel development is the systemd development model" | Jan 29 22:49 |
| oiaohm | Please not the Linux kernel development model current one goes back to 1995 | Jan 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | not/note | Jan 29 22:50 |
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| MinceR | EXTERMINATE! | Jan 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | So the nightmare development model of systemd well and truly predates it. | Jan 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Like kdbus failed but the memfd part of kdbus made it and has sorted out some issues that were being hacked around with file sockets. | Jan 29 22:51 |
| oiaohm | So kdbus had some minor success that part made it. | Jan 29 22:51 |
| MinceR | makes me wonder how unstable and insecure that part will make Linux | Jan 29 22:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you watched the lca2017 video on the Linux kernel documentation how it was organised. | Jan 29 22:52 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 29 22:53 |
| oiaohm | And to be correct currently still is orgnaised to a point. | Jan 29 22:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY_C-Z0qMSo It is a 45 min video. Linux kernel documentation historic has total lack of design and organisation. | Jan 29 22:55 |
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| oiaohm | Linux kernel documentation the mess it has been would be totally not acceptable in a designed project. | Jan 29 22:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you want to see a project working from a design model you look at python https://www.python.org/dev/peps/ where to add a new feature you put in a formal documented request when approved you code. | Jan 29 23:00 |
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| MinceR | yeah, i've seen a few of those | Jan 29 23:00 |
| oiaohm | You will see with Linux kernel in lots of cases documenting after the feature is in the Linux kernel. | Jan 29 23:01 |
| oiaohm | So the Linux kernel world is code and demo feature get it into staging then clean the code up to quality. | Jan 29 23:02 |
| oiaohm | Then maybe document it. | Jan 29 23:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: does not that work flow sound a lot like systemd | Jan 29 23:02 |
| MinceR | i don't see the "force everyone in the world to use and depend on your demo" step, though | Jan 29 23:03 |
| MinceR | perhaps the ratcrap BoD needs to be reminded that it isn't a real step? | Jan 29 23:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have a short memory. Example of top of head when Linux kernel on x86 changed from 8k memory blocks to 4k memory blocks on x86 so breaking nvidia drivers and the like. | Jan 29 23:05 |
| MinceR | so? | Jan 29 23:05 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel has changed features in past and said stuff it. | Jan 29 23:06 |
| oiaohm | who push the 8k to 4k change none other than Redhat. | Jan 29 23:06 |
| MinceR | when did they break userspace? | Jan 29 23:06 |
| oiaohm | 8k to 4k change did break some userspace applications. | Jan 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | then go tell Linus he's a hypocrite | Jan 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | please link the mail in the archive so i can see the fireworks | Jan 29 23:07 |
| oiaohm | It was fireworks Linus said that Linux kernel had not formally promised a page side in fact the documentation stated the other way so everyone could suck it up. | Jan 29 23:08 |
| oiaohm | http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/page_sizes.html on page sizes Linus is all over the place. | Jan 29 23:13 |
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| cubexyz | package types, bah | Jan 30 02:39 |
| cubexyz | use tarballs :) | Jan 30 02:40 |
| cubexyz | when I ported a bunch of stuff to zaurus it was all from tarballs | Jan 30 02:46 |
| cubexyz | it's better not to get too dependent on packages | Jan 30 02:47 |
| cubexyz | by all means use them if they are available | Jan 30 02:48 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I just noticed something a bit odd | Jan 30 02:54 |
| cubexyz | some of the files in /var/log have time stamps of 1999 and 1996 | Jan 30 02:55 |
| oiaohm | that is odd. | Jan 30 02:56 |
| cubexyz | ksyms.1, ksyms.2, ksyms.3 etc | Jan 30 02:56 |
| cubexyz | sometime is logging ksyms | Jan 30 02:59 |
| cubexyz | something | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | what system is this. | Jan 30 02:59 |
| cubexyz | FC1 | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | because it really old to log ksyms | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | odd not old. | Jan 30 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Hmm that would not be kernel opps logs. | Jan 30 03:01 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what program is doing the logging | Jan 30 03:02 |
| cubexyz | klogd I guess? | Jan 30 03:03 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't think any of my other computers log that | Jan 30 03:05 |
| oiaohm | I find it mentioned in a 1999 list of log files and marked as not readable by humans. | Jan 30 03:05 |
| cubexyz | I'll host one of the files and you can look at it | Jan 30 03:06 |
| cubexyz | ok | Jan 30 03:07 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ksyms.0 | Jan 30 03:07 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: its a feature that disappears while we were not looking. | Jan 30 03:08 |
| cubexyz | preservation :) | Jan 30 03:08 |
| oiaohm | there use to be a /dev/ksyms and tools to access it until it was found how it could be used to breach a kernel. | Jan 30 03:09 |
| cubexyz | it looks like ASCII, I'm just using vi to look at it | Jan 30 03:10 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: modern /dev/ksyms in Linux hides at /proc/kallsyms | Jan 30 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Same ascii information without the tools. | Jan 30 03:12 |
| cubexyz | ah I see | Jan 30 03:12 |
| cubexyz | no logging though | Jan 30 03:12 |
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| oiaohm | /dev/ksyms was basically under linux snooping the elf information making up the linux kernel. | Jan 30 03:12 |
| oiaohm | So was giving away a bit more infomation than just the symbols. | Jan 30 03:13 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is the thing when you go back to some of the really old systems there are item that are gone for very good reasons. | Jan 30 03:14 |
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| schestowitz | > x | Jan 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-microsoft-corporation-will-put-1-billion-into-cyber-security-msft-cm739843 | Jan 30 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | > one can only expect that this means moving to the FreeBSD kernel and | Jan 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | > user space with a tricked-out KDE GUI :P | Jan 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe they means NATIONAL security, i.e. spreading Good{tm} back doors. | Jan 30 10:33 |
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| MinceR | it probably means they'll spend that $1 million on _advertising_ how secure their crap is | Jan 30 12:05 |
| oiaohm | To attempt to perform a security audit on the size of the windows OS code base requires more than 1 billion dollars. | Jan 30 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: First the code base, then the security audit :). | Jan 30 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | Closed source audits are much more useless (for the regular user). | Jan 30 12:09 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll find a way to call something much cheaper "an audit" | Jan 30 12:09 |
| MinceR | (also useless, obviously) | Jan 30 12:09 |
| XRevan86 | Because Microsoft can re-spin security issues as backdoors. | Jan 30 12:09 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: wish I had the link for the calculated price tag to audit the Linux kernel. | Jan 30 12:09 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Estimated_cost_to_redevelop the audit cost is about the same cost to redevelop the thing. So Linux kernel a full audit is about 3 billion dollars. | Jan 30 12:12 |
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| oiaohm | Remember Microsoft allows closed source drivers so cannot audit everything no matter what. | Jan 30 12:13 |
| oiaohm | https://sel4.systems/Info/Docs/GD-NICTA-whitepaper.pdf when you look at the audit process of sel4 you find the audit cost is double to 6 times the cost of normal development. | Jan 30 12:15 |
| oiaohm | It all a question of how much you pay developers the first time around. | Jan 30 12:17 |
| oiaohm | High quality software is down right expensive. | Jan 30 12:17 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: But if Finland is to be annexed, how will some people be able to cargo some unique EU things from Finland to St. Petersburg? | Jan 30 13:48 |
| MinceR | as if these tyrants cared about that | Jan 30 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What do they care about? | Jan 30 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | Especially something they can find in Finland %). | Jan 30 13:52 |
| MinceR | themselves | Jan 30 13:52 |
| MinceR | commie leaders imported western products for their own use, doesn't mean they let their enslaved population do the same | Jan 30 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In my apartment there used to be a television set "Sharp". | Jan 30 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | back from early 80s | Jan 30 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | A TV that served more than 20 years. They don't make things like they used to :D. | Jan 30 13:56 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, it wasn't bought in a store. It was shipped to the country, legally. | Jan 30 14:00 |
| XRevan86 | USSR had somewhat like 4 periods in its existence. It seems unfair to just smash them all together and call everyone Stalin. | Jan 30 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | Only around 70 years and so much happened, yeah. | Jan 30 14:07 |
| MinceR | it's even more unfair to pretend it was all just peachy and force such a regime on everyone | Jan 30 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Good thing nobody does that. | Jan 30 14:08 |
| MinceR | many people do that nowadays | Jan 30 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nobody wants USSR exactly how it was to the millimetre. | Jan 30 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Every form of government has it advantages and disadvantages. | Jan 30 14:12 |
| *XRevan86 will be back in around half an hour. | Jan 30 14:13 | |
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| *XRevan86 is back. | Jan 30 14:42 | |
| XRevan86 | Half an hour, how unintentionally punctual of me :). | Jan 30 14:43 |
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| MinceR | yeah, for example, putain wants it with the state religion replaced | Jan 30 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What replaced? | Jan 30 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | The Isaac's Cathedral? | Jan 30 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | There's a bit of a thing going on around it. | Jan 30 17:09 |
| MinceR | cult of personality (lenin, stalin, marx, etc.) replaced with christianity + cult of personality (putler) | Jan 30 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Cult of personality is what Stalin did around the figure of Lenin and somewhat around himself. | Jan 30 17:11 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/TVQWc | Jan 30 17:11 |
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| XRevan86 | Putin doesn't even try. | Jan 30 17:11 |
| MinceR | so the cult just emerged on its own? | Jan 30 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Where's the cult? | Jan 30 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | I don't see portraits of Putin in houses for instance. | Jan 30 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | The only places that are full of Putin are souvenir shops for some reason %). | Jan 30 17:13 |
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| MinceR | i see plenty of photos of putain being shared | Jan 30 17:13 |
| MinceR | and photos of souvenirs, yes | Jan 30 17:14 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The West just doesn't count. | Jan 30 17:14 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Because with The West the message would be "somebody wants people to remember who Putin is". | Jan 30 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | in The West | Jan 30 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | And souvenirs – that's business, they make junk tourists are willing to buy. | Jan 30 17:16 |
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| MinceR | yes, but why are tourists willing to buy that? | Jan 30 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | pink ushankas, matroshkas, etc. | Jan 30 17:16 |
| MinceR | vlad figurines | Jan 30 17:17 |
| MinceR | pink? is that even legal in russia? | Jan 30 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Probably not because they watched russian domestic television. | Jan 30 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Bad taste is not outlawed yet. | Jan 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, they instead read putain's propaganda online | Jan 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | afaik being gay or at least using symbols thereof is outlawed | Jan 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | "gay propaganda" | Jan 30 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In St. Petersburg there's something like that. | Jan 30 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Having a gay flag is probably not in the list of outlawed thing. | Jan 30 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | I've seen people with gay badges. Not in prison %). | Jan 30 17:22 |
| MinceR | so what did the government do at the olympics? | Jan 30 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Also, the law is all about "think of the children!" so 18+ places can still gay-propagate to any extent. | Jan 30 17:23 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't expect consistency from fundies | Jan 30 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Basically, if you don't make a fuss, nobody cares. | Jan 30 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how Russia works. | Jan 30 17:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, shut up, lay low, and do your slave work quietly for vlad | Jan 30 17:30 |
| MinceR | freedom of speech is something that happens to other people (but not for long) | Jan 30 17:30 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dXg5TwH.jpg | Jan 30 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Sounds closer to reality than your original statement :). | Jan 30 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | > slave work for vlad | Jan 30 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | That's an interesting spin on taxes. | Jan 30 17:35 |
| MinceR | not just taxes, also everything being owned by vlad, the totalitarian state, or oligarchs owned by vlad | Jan 30 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | If you count the US as a totalitarian state (not because of the newly-elected), then I guess so. | Jan 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | i didn't, but it's turning into that | Jan 30 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | [12:09] <XRevan86> Because Microsoft can re-spin security issues as backdoors. | Jan 30 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Usually the other way around | Jan 30 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a fruitful relationship between security issues and back doors :). | Jan 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 30 19:14 |
| MinceR | security issues and backdoors thrive while your rights are destroyed and your resources taken away | Jan 30 19:14 |
| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jan 30 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | sabotage of PCs of people="accident" | Jan 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | [19:03] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/N755G9f.jpg | Jan 30 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Yes, as if liking someone is a "big dead" | Jan 30 19:18 |
| schestowitz | problems of 21st century gurls [sic] | Jan 30 19:18 |
| schestowitz | with their FB account and "cell" phone | Jan 30 19:18 |
| MinceR | deady issues | Jan 30 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bosson/status/826091835147816962 | Jan 30 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bosson: @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz But even so, software patents are generally incomprehensible and lack novelty for any developer skilled in the art. | Jan 30 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: this is why we'll go extinct sooner than I thought | Jan 30 19:20 |
| MinceR | maybe | Jan 30 19:22 |
| MinceR | http://loldongs.dk/img/MjAxNy0wMS0xNSAxNTowOTowNw_MTA0LjIwNy44NC4zOQ.jpeg | Jan 30 19:22 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 30 20:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, ping | Jan 30 20:22 |
| razielle_tzu | hai | Jan 30 20:22 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, well this is disapointing the first two minutes or so are missing from that speech. so the build up the jokey stuff etc | Jan 30 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | missing from video | Jan 30 20:24 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | maybe he took that out himself for some reason, or forgot to record in time, but hmm | Jan 30 20:25 |
| razielle_tzu | it happens | Jan 30 20:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, also I am being a bit chicken just now at watching it with sound on my headset | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Punctuation matters | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://loldongs.dk/img/MjAxNy0wMS0xNSAxNTowOTowNw_MTA0LjIwNy44NC4zOQ.jpeg | Jan 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Unless it was a #trump supporter ^_^ | Jan 30 20:26 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, but who likes there own voice etc anyway? | Jan 30 20:27 |
| razielle_tzu | i know a few people that do | Jan 30 20:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | and ill look like a geek or whatever to i guess | Jan 30 20:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | but i guess thats me then | Jan 30 20:27 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | razielle_tzu, so stand still to. in a way should move around ore, but not ike some of them | Jan 30 20:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 30 20:34 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | MinceR, yes? | Jan 30 20:36 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 30 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826166401966755840 | Jan 30 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Typoman: Revised is coming to Linux & SteamOS and they | Jan 30 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | require Beta testers https://t.co/J4I57ke61C | Jan 30 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Jan 30 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Typoman: Revised is coming to Linux & SteamOS and they require Beta testers | GamingOnLinux | Jan 30 20:44 | |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1462.html | Jan 30 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Jan 30 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/edrollo/status/826170897086238722 | Jan 30 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@edrollo: @schestowitz So you pull out one tweet and it's supposed to shape national policy? So weak. | Jan 30 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://imgur.com/gallery/6TGML | Jan 30 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instant regret dump - Album on Imgur | Jan 30 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826169092897914881 | Jan 30 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 7700K Linux Benchmarks | Jan 30 20:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Core i7 7700K Linux Benchmarks - Phoronix | Jan 30 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826171746697015296 | Jan 30 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | We're looking for Ubuntu 17.04 wallpapers right now! | Jan 30 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UNyY52rXYT (nhaines.livejournal.com) | Jan 30 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaines.livejournal.com | We're looking for Ubuntu 17.04 wallpapers right now! - Nathan's Journal | Jan 30 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826173970110148611 | Jan 30 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Vendetta Online MMORPG Gets New Gamepad Configuration UI | Jan 30 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for Android, More https://t.co/6YXhqcfIYx | Jan 30 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 30 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vendetta Online MMORPG Gets New Gamepad Configuration UI for Android, More | Jan 30 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826175199921971205 | Jan 30 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Applications Begin Appearing In The Ubuntu Snap Store | Jan 30 21:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Applications Begin Appearing In The Ubuntu Snap Store - Phoronix | Jan 30 21:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux | Jan 30 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux Gaming Tests - Phoronix | Jan 30 21:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826175867017711618 | Jan 30 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new | Jan 30 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | notebook https://t.co/2Qs3CdbLMZ (www.zdnet.com) | Jan 30 21:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new notebook | ZDNet | Jan 30 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826176075461959681 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jan 30 21:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826176924883906560 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GhostBSD 11.0 PREALPHA4 is ready for testing | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GhostBSD 11.0 PREALPHA4 is ready for testing | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826176936091086848 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | notebook https://t.co/rCRPtmDzeq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new notebook | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Hands-On: KaOS Linux and openSUSE Leap 42 on my new notebook https://t.co/rCRPtmDzeq https://t.co/cWqKcIH6Sw | Jan 30 21:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826176938754535424 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mint 18.1 KDE & Xfce, Bodhi 4.1.0, | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pkN74GrlAt (www.kernel.org) RIP | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kernel.org | The Linux Kernel Archives | Jan 30 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 18.1 KDE & Xfce, Bodhi 4.1.0, ftp.kernel.org RIP | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation LFCS and LFCE: Jorluis Perales | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826176957494620160 | Jan 30 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 7700K Linux Benchmarks | Jan 30 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i7 7700K Linux Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Intel Core i7 7700K Linux Benchmarks https://t.co/sEbFe5aeYE https://t.co/MkoTMZN4yg | Jan 30 21:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux | Jan 30 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gaming Tests https://t.co/0RG7oagbXY | Jan 30 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux Gaming Tests | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Mesa 17.1-dev vs. AMDGPU-PRO 16.60 vs. NVIDIA 378 Linux Gaming Tests https://t.co/0RG7oagbXY https://t.co/oV5DJ8e2h0 | Jan 30 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826176975572131841 | Jan 30 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa Graphics https://t.co/JwkKWvJtTO | Jan 30 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa Graphics | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826177505946112001 | Jan 30 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | You Can Play DOOM (2016) and Hitman: Absolution on Linux | Jan 30 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Wine Staging 2.0 https://t.co/UlqAliy1q4 | Jan 30 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Jan 30 21:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | You Can Play DOOM (2016) and Hitman: Absolution on Linux with Wine Staging 2.0 | Jan 30 21:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826178380173287428 | Jan 30 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flatpak 0.8.2 Security Fix Improves the Linux Application | Jan 30 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Sandboxing Framework https://t.co/h0EPLVsQkp | Jan 30 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Flatpak 0.8.2 Security Fix Improves the Linux Application Sandboxing Framework | Jan 30 21:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826178577154572289 | Jan 30 21:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AMDGPU Winsys Gets Minor Optimization From Pitoiset | Jan 30 21:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU Winsys Gets Minor Optimization From Pitoiset - Phoronix | Jan 30 21:22 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jan 30 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | More on Shiva http://fossforce.com/2017/01/man-didnt-invent-email-attacks-free-speech/ | Jan 30 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | The Man Who Didn't Invent Email Attacks Free Speech | FOSS Force | Jan 30 21:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/YMAqUs4b1Z | Jan 30 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826185372270940161 | Jan 30 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi | Jan 30 21:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi | Tux Machines | Jan 30 21:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: How to get up and running with sweet Orange Pi https://t.co/3cBckz5MIe https://t.co/veeoLK0Qr2 | Jan 30 21:49 | |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/826153579991937026 | Jan 30 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RoguePOTUSStaff: Rumors are true. Expect by end of the week. https://t.co/Mx89ZaY4ND | Jan 30 22:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@devchelle: @RoguePOTUSStaff there are rumors of anti LGBT EO coming. Can you shed light on that? | Jan 30 22:13 | |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/153/ | Jan 30 22:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Install a Windowed GNU/Linux Environment On Any Android | Jan 30 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Device With This Guide https://t.co/DrXjFTBtQb | Jan 30 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | Install a Windowed GNU/Linux Environment On Any Android Device With This Guide | Jan 30 23:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Subgraph OS 2016.12.30 Alpha https://t.co/qOy5JUpQYu | Jan 30 23:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distro: Final Round of Voting Has Begun | Jan 30 23:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Now Available for 32-Bit | Jan 30 23:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch OTA-15 Hotfix Update Could Land Soon for | Jan 30 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Phones and Tablets https://t.co/MNYcPMtaKH | Jan 30 23:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calamares 3.0 Gets First Point Release to Improve SDDM | Jan 31 00:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calamares 3.0 Gets First Point Release to Improve SDDM Autologin Config Handling | Jan 31 00:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Now Available for 32-Bit | Jan 31 00:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7.3 (1611) Linux Distro Now Available for 32-Bit (i386) Architectures | Tux Machines | Jan 31 00:06 | |
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| MinceR | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/01/30/2241256/lgs-ultrafine-5k-display-becomes-useless-when-its-within-two-meters-of-a-router | Jan 31 02:03 |
| MinceR | letting crApple "engineers" touch an LG product had its effect, as could be predicted | Jan 31 02:04 |
| cubexyz | huh? | Jan 31 02:04 |
| cubexyz | 5k? | Jan 31 02:04 |
| cubexyz | I didn't realize 5K was a thing | Jan 31 02:04 |
| MinceR | i didn't either | Jan 31 02:04 |
| MinceR | i hope this won't affect future LG products | Jan 31 02:05 |
| cubexyz | LG kind of sucks anyways | Jan 31 02:05 |
| cubexyz | No service manual for the RH938 | Jan 31 02:05 |
| cubexyz | er... RH398 | Jan 31 02:05 |
| MinceR | dunno, i have an LG monitor tv and i'm mostly satisfied with it | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | the monitors might be OK | Jan 31 02:06 |
| MinceR | except that it tends to turn certain pale blues into violets | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | it's there DVD recorder I'm fighting with | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | s/there/their/ | Jan 31 02:06 |
| MinceR | dvd writer? | Jan 31 02:06 |
| MinceR | or video recorder? | Jan 31 02:06 |
| cubexyz | consumer device... one of those stand-alone DVD recorders | Jan 31 02:07 |
| cubexyz | for TVs | Jan 31 02:07 |
| MinceR | i don't really see the point of those | Jan 31 02:07 |
| cubexyz | ah, a friend of mine wanted help with it | Jan 31 02:07 |
| cubexyz | not mine :) | Jan 31 02:07 |
| MinceR | well, except i suppose if you're recording from tv, it might have a tuner that sucks less than tv tuners for pc-s | Jan 31 02:07 |
| MinceR | i bought this monitor tv because i got sick of trying to get a picture out of tuner cards/boxes | Jan 31 02:08 |
| cubexyz | it's mostly a black box, especially without any service manual | Jan 31 02:08 |
| MinceR | and it worked | Jan 31 02:08 |
| cubexyz | maybe LG's monitors are OK, I haven't had one apart yet | Jan 31 02:09 |
| MinceR | they had the distinction of offering actual subpixel warranty, which was very rare at the time, at least in hungary | Jan 31 02:10 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5K_resolution there is a reason why us PC users don't talk about 5k. 5k does not work over DVI. 4K is the highest over DVI. Then it displayport, HDMI or thunderbolt | Jan 31 02:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 02:10 |
| cubexyz | is anyone broadcasting in 5K? | Jan 31 02:10 |
| MinceR | HDMI and DP are fine, imo | Jan 31 02:10 |
| MinceR | i don't have thunderbolt yet | Jan 31 02:10 |
| cubexyz | I thought 8K would be the next step up, but surprise... 5K | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | though that kinda surprises me | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | considering that afaik DVI and HDMI use the same protocol | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | just different connectors | Jan 31 02:11 |
| MinceR | (that is, DVI-D) | Jan 31 02:11 |
| cubexyz | what is bluray res again? | Jan 31 02:11 |
| cubexyz | 1920x1080? | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | i think so | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | it isn't specific to bluray though, it's just fullhd | Jan 31 02:12 |
| cubexyz | so they'll need a successor to bluray as well :) | Jan 31 02:12 |
| cubexyz | to handle 4K and beyond | Jan 31 02:12 |
| oiaohm | blueray does have 4k discs. | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | i think that's called 'streaming' | Jan 31 02:12 |
| MinceR | with DRM, of course | Jan 31 02:12 |
| oiaohm | I have not seen 5k or 8k in blueray yet. | Jan 31 02:13 |
| cubexyz | do you need a special bluray 4K player for that or...? | Jan 31 02:13 |
| oiaohm | Ok there is a 8k disc https://www.engadget.com/2008/10/24/baraka-first-ever-8k-hd-restoration-blu-ray-disc-gets-ship-date/ | Jan 31 02:14 |
| cubexyz | ah, there's ultra hd blu-ray players | Jan 31 02:14 |
| MinceR | baraka, from mortal kombat? :> | Jan 31 02:14 |
| oiaohm | 8k media is quite rare. | Jan 31 02:14 |
| oiaohm | Free to air TV most of those cap out at the standard 1920x1080 | Jan 31 02:15 |
| oiaohm | And if you don't want to eat internet bandwidth from hell you normally stop at that point as well on internet stuff. | Jan 31 02:15 |
| cubexyz | I think Europe has a FTA 4K shopping channel | Jan 31 02:16 |
| MinceR | ooh, a shopping channel | Jan 31 02:17 |
| MinceR | in 2017 :> | Jan 31 02:17 |
| cubexyz | :) | Jan 31 02:17 |
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| cubexyz | I guess everyone heard about HMV going bust | Jan 31 02:19 |
| cubexyz | no surprise | Jan 31 02:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://eftm.com.au/2016/11/finally-all-the-free-to-air-channels-in-hd-33099 << Like here in Australia if a free to air decide to broadcast a 4k channel they have no more radio bandwidth left. | Jan 31 02:19 |
| cubexyz | interesting | Jan 31 02:20 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of HMV | Jan 31 02:20 |
| oiaohm | So broadcasting 5k anytime soon in Australia is absolutely not going to happen. | Jan 31 02:20 |
| cubexyz | makes me wonder what happens to all the old HDTVs | Jan 31 02:21 |
| oiaohm | Settop box fix. | Jan 31 02:22 |
| oiaohm | HDTV still has a hdmi port still able to take 1920x1080 so stick a settop box on top of tv that knows the mpeg4 instead of the other encoding and they are working fine. | Jan 31 02:23 |
| cubexyz | there's some FTA satellite stuff, haven't set that up as yet | Jan 31 02:23 |
| oiaohm | FTA satelite has the same issue to fit channels in you have bandwidth limits. | Jan 31 02:23 |
| cubexyz | Eulelsat 7 and a bunch of other ones | Jan 31 02:24 |
| oiaohm | Reality is 4k is down right huge. | Jan 31 02:24 |
| oiaohm | and 8k is in the area of scary. | Jan 31 02:24 |
| cubexyz | Eutelsat 7 | Jan 31 02:24 |
| oiaohm | A 8k broadcast would take almost all the bandwidth space 4 of the 5 public tv networks in Australia. | Jan 31 02:24 |
| cubexyz | maybe use higher frequencies? | Jan 31 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Radio spectrum has to be bought. | Jan 31 02:25 |
| oiaohm | To be correct leased. | Jan 31 02:25 |
| oiaohm | the more you want the more you have to pay. | Jan 31 02:26 |
| cubexyz | there's EHF | Jan 31 02:26 |
| cubexyz | don't know if they can use that for TV though | Jan 31 02:26 |
| cubexyz | ah, too short of a range | Jan 31 02:26 |
| oiaohm | And as a commercial user you have to pay for EHF space. | Jan 31 02:27 |
| oiaohm | For the money you can make from advertising for a free to air tv 4K is very questionable 8k is up in the point of not possible. | Jan 31 02:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes home shopping doing 4k they are basically wall to wall advertisement. | Jan 31 02:28 |
| cubexyz | yeah no thanks :) | Jan 31 02:28 |
| oiaohm | Yes wall to wall adveristment is basically what is required to cover the costs at 4k and make a profit. At 8k where you need to make 4x more is kinda stuffed area. | Jan 31 02:30 |
| oiaohm | So other than channels I will not want to watch I don't expect to see 4k at least for another 10 years and 8k most likely not in my life time as free to air. | Jan 31 02:31 |
| cubexyz | Canada didn't even switch to ATSC until 2011 | Jan 31 02:32 |
| cubexyz | we even have one analog channel still | Jan 31 02:32 |
| cubexyz | CHEX-TV2 | Jan 31 02:33 |
| oiaohm | Nothing like having 4 different standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T#/media/File:Digital_broadcast_standards.svg | Jan 31 02:33 |
| MinceR | the great thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from | Jan 31 02:35 |
| MinceR | (though m$ prefers the thing about them that they can all be ignored yet their names can be used for advertisement) | Jan 31 02:36 |
| oiaohm | What is kinda evil in Australia is half the historic free to air radio space was taken away for wireless broadband 4g after the change to digital tv. | Jan 31 02:42 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's evil about that | Jan 31 02:43 |
| MinceR | wireless broadband seems much more useful than broadcast tv | Jan 31 02:43 |
| cubexyz | a free service displaced with a pay service... | Jan 31 02:44 |
| cubexyz | unless there's free 4g which I doubt | Jan 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | an outdated dinosaur of a service wasting bandwidth displaced with a useful service :> | Jan 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | also, do they not tax you for tv in australia? | Jan 31 02:44 |
| MinceR | is there none of that tv license madness that goes on in the uk? | Jan 31 02:44 |
| cubexyz | not in Canada at least | Jan 31 02:54 |
| cubexyz | don't know about Australia | Jan 31 02:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 02:55 |
| cubexyz | actually I think they used to have a tv tax but it was abolished | Jan 31 02:55 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#Australia | Jan 31 02:56 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 31 02:56 |
| MinceR | so it's paid by government grants, i.e. taxes | Jan 31 02:58 |
| MinceR | therefore it's not "free" | Jan 31 02:58 |
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| cubexyz | I don't like how some distros are phasing out 32-bit | Jan 31 03:08 |
| MinceR | maybe the next systemd will require a more powerful cpu than any of the 32bit-only ones | Jan 31 03:11 |
| MinceR | or will just require more than 4GB RAM | Jan 31 03:11 |
| MinceR | it is the One Microsoft Way, after all | Jan 31 03:11 |
| cubexyz | well, eventually my own distro is probably in the cards | Jan 31 03:14 |
| cubexyz | only way to be sure I get what I want | Jan 31 03:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 31 03:14 |
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| cubexyz | with the gtk stuff they kept making the nroff man pages for applications | Jan 31 03:21 |
| cubexyz | but not the KDE stuff | Jan 31 03:21 |
| cubexyz | well, some of the gtk stuff at least | Jan 31 03:21 |
| MinceR | kde had the khelpcenter, iirc | Jan 31 03:22 |
| MinceR | html-based | Jan 31 03:22 |
| cubexyz | sure | Jan 31 03:22 |
| cubexyz | glabels, gkrellm... they had nroff man pages | Jan 31 03:22 |
| cubexyz | I guess I could just make some nroff man pages for KDE programs | Jan 31 03:23 |
| cubexyz | when I write a motif app I made a man page for it | Jan 31 03:29 |
| cubexyz | in the olden days you could "man mwm" | Jan 31 03:30 |
| MinceR | i never made manpages | Jan 31 03:30 |
| cubexyz | wasn't universe though | Jan 31 03:30 |
| cubexyz | wasn't universal | Jan 31 03:30 |
| MinceR | often i just write usage in the top lines of the application code :> | Jan 31 03:31 |
| cubexyz | did you ever write any motif stuff? | Jan 31 03:31 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 31 03:33 |
| MinceR | my first unix application with gui was based on Qt, i think | Jan 31 03:34 |
| MinceR | then i did a bit of GTK+, then went back to Qt | Jan 31 03:34 |
| MinceR | though now i prefer ncurses if it's sufficient for the app | Jan 31 03:34 |
| cubexyz | ah | Jan 31 03:34 |
| cubexyz | yeah I'm looking into ncurses applications | Jan 31 03:35 |
| cubexyz | iptraf is very useful | Jan 31 03:52 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/FYvkq | Jan 31 04:04 |
| cubexyz | the whole right/left thing is tedious | Jan 31 04:06 |
| cubexyz | US didn't do enough to keep manufacturing jobs | Jan 31 04:07 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 31 04:07 |
| MinceR | especially when it's the authoritarian side that's winning hard | Jan 31 04:08 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual | Jan 31 04:23 |
| MinceR | fundamentalism in the uk | Jan 31 04:23 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality is systemd is being used in some embedded systems with less than 128megs of ram. | Jan 31 05:03 |
| cubexyz | uh, why? | Jan 31 05:04 |
| cubexyz | why in the world would you use systemd in a space constrained system? | Jan 31 05:05 |
| oiaohm | Turns out systemd as a service manager works very well. Ie detect that a service has died and automatically restart it and other things like that. | Jan 31 05:06 |
| cubexyz | I figured embedded would use busybox or something similar | Jan 31 05:07 |
| oiaohm | http://she-devel.com/ELC_systemd.pdf If you read down here you notice service watchdogs and other highly useful items like that. | Jan 31 05:08 |
| oiaohm | busybox init solution and sysvinit does really include those features. | Jan 31 05:08 |
| cubexyz | busybox runs on my TV and I've never had any problems | Jan 31 05:10 |
| cubexyz | uh, beyond replacing the timer controller... but that's hardware | Jan 31 05:11 |
| oiaohm | systemd memory footprint is 10 megs in the embeded usage. So for all the talk about systemd being really huge on memory the reality is it not exactly light but its not exactly heavy either. | Jan 31 05:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm pretty sure it's a lot bigger than busybox | Jan 31 05:13 |
| cubexyz | so no thanks | Jan 31 05:13 |
| cubexyz | of course you'll need to research things carefully to even know what you get | Jan 31 05:14 |
| oiaohm | If you are needing to watchdog services you need to add like deamontools on to busybox then that does not have cgroups ... Basically once you need to watchdog services and have to restart them when they fail systemd starts looking light. | Jan 31 05:14 |
| oiaohm | If what you are building you don't need to watchdog stuff and be sure to kill all of a failed service then using systemd is heavy. | Jan 31 05:15 |
| oiaohm | Worst part is the old sysvinit with is multi levels of running scripts could exceed on some systems 20 megs of ram. | Jan 31 05:16 |
| oiaohm | So systemd and sysvinit what one heavier depends on what they are running. | Jan 31 05:17 |
| oiaohm | For a reason why systems need more than 4G of ram you would be better off looking at blaming web browers and the like. The reality is the ram usage by init systems is almost insignificant even what would be classed as heavy init systems. | Jan 31 05:21 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think some of the TVs were in the 128 meg of ram range | Jan 31 05:29 |
| cubexyz | there's even some TVs that run FreeBSD | Jan 31 05:30 |
| cubexyz | not that I've ever got in | Jan 31 05:30 |
| cubexyz | maybe one could get XMBC running or something | Jan 31 05:35 |
| oiaohm | some of the smart tv are in the 1 to 4 G range | Jan 31 05:38 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, my TV doesn't need systemd :) | Jan 31 11:35 |
| cubexyz | what's next, toaster with systemd? | Jan 31 11:36 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: I did not say everything required it. If you have a usage case that you do need to watchdog the services. Like a fridge monitoring system you don't want that failing to function and not be noticed. | Jan 31 11:44 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically what is the worst that going to happen if software in a TV locks up. Then think what is the worst that is going to happen if same thing happens in something like a fridge. A toaster does ask some questions if that should be too far automated due to fire risk. | Jan 31 11:47 |
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| cubexyz | that's the thing | Jan 31 11:49 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't | Jan 31 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Lot of fridges in shopping centers are networked with central monitoring to report failures before you have people getting bad food. | Jan 31 11:50 |
| oiaohm | So the fridge case there is a real world requirement of course you are not going to see a fancy interface on it. | Jan 31 11:51 |
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| cubexyz | I'm kind of wondering why Sony even used busybox | Jan 31 11:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its like the same reason they funded development of toybox. That wanted something to init the system. | Jan 31 11:59 |
| oiaohm | I find the toybox busybox split so stupid most usage of busybox and toybox are using the Linux kernel that is GPL anyhow so GPL conformance should have been normal. | Jan 31 12:00 |
| schestowitz | [11:36] <cubexyz> what's next, toaster with systemd? | Jan 31 12:21 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/toaster-manual/toaster-manual.html << I could have made a embedded joke. Yes the automated build system for one of the embedded Linux forms is called toaster. | Jan 31 12:28 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: the reality is that as ill-designed bloated systems grow, their hardware requirements grow as well | Jan 31 13:49 |
| MinceR | also, this pretense of systemd being flawless is amusing | Jan 31 13:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I am saying systemd is flawless. If you go over the years of different embedded conference presentations using systemd some how its embedded memory foot print in shrinking. | Jan 31 13:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is just one of those thing where the numbers from those using it are not adding up to what a lot are presuming. | Jan 31 13:57 |
| MinceR | yeah and microsoft says that they've made windows faster and lighter too | Jan 31 13:57 |
| oiaohm | This is not like Microsoft saying this. this is people making embedded solutions finding they need less now to run systemd than 12 month ago and even less than 2 years ago. | Jan 31 13:59 |
| oiaohm | So maybe systemd is starting to clean up sections of it code base? | Jan 31 13:59 |
| MinceR | have they stopped adding additional roles to systemd? i doubt it | Jan 31 14:03 |
| MinceR | (especially when you consider that they have yet to "standardize" the package manager, which would be a big blow to the distributions they're trying to destroy) | Jan 31 14:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bit of looking at systemd patches over those years a lot of memory leaks and fails to free when not need for time frame have been fixed. | Jan 31 14:04 |
| oiaohm | So it could be that the additional roles are not using more ram that what has been recovered by fixing the bugs. | Jan 31 14:05 |
| MinceR | i wonder what will reboot those embedded systems when systemd's memory leaks keep them from functioning :> | Jan 31 14:06 |
| oiaohm | hardware watchdog in most cases. | Jan 31 14:06 |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/npc/tale/26-16/ | Jan 31 14:08 |
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| oiaohm | Allocate then use once then leave allocated for a long time frame then first action rewrite. Those kind of bugs are just pointlessly holding an allocation. | Jan 31 14:08 |
| oiaohm | so you have leaks and pointlessly holding allocations in different systemd parts being fixed. | Jan 31 14:08 |
| MinceR | also, just pointlessly using dynamic memory in pid1 | Jan 31 14:09 |
| MinceR | when none of the roles of pid1 require it | Jan 31 14:09 |
| oiaohm | https://felipec.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/init/ there is more than a few examples of pid1 using dynamic memory. | Jan 31 14:12 |
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| oiaohm | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1998/09/msg00783.html <<< some of the funny ones is some sysvinit that do strange things are dyanmic memory using as well. | Jan 31 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | [linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu] IMPORTANT: SysVinit & umounting | Jan 31 14:13 | |
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| MinceR | sure there are | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | but it isn't necessary | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | calling wait() needs no dynamic memory | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | forking and execing /etc/rc or whatever also needs no dynamic memory | Jan 31 14:23 |
| MinceR | everything else is superfluous | Jan 31 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Processing the inittab that was in the sysvinit design you have missed. | Jan 31 14:27 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about sysvinit | Jan 31 14:28 |
| MinceR | sysvinit is a design that can be improved on, slimmed down | Jan 31 14:28 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit design with all the usage of shell and the allocations that causes cannot be slimmed down that much. | Jan 31 14:29 |
| oiaohm | before it no longer sysvinit. | Jan 31 14:29 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jan 31 14:30 |
| MinceR | is systemd the only pid1 claimant that is allowed to change the design? | Jan 31 14:30 |
| MinceR | are all the others heresy? | Jan 31 14:30 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit has a define of what it is. systemd was able to start a new design by allow itself to be distant from the sysvinit design limitations. Systemd was not the first init system todo this either. | Jan 31 14:32 |
| oiaohm | the reason why memory foot print of sysvinit and systemd are so close are the different memory wasting issues both have. | Jan 31 14:33 |
| oiaohm | Reality was that we were to the point where sysvinit was needing replacement. systemd design improves a few things and stuffs a few things up. | Jan 31 14:35 |
| MinceR | "few" | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | yea | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | breaks logging, breaks NTP, introduces ancient DNS vulnerabilities | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | breaks cron, screen, tmux, dtach | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | fails to reap zombies reliably | Jan 31 14:36 |
| MinceR | but who cares, it's "modern"! | Jan 31 14:37 |
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| oiaohm | sysvinit early versions had the fails to reap zombies seams to be a universal fault that comes every time someone writes a new init. http://serverfault.com/questions/611715/solaris-10-init-failing-to-reap-zombie-processes | Jan 31 14:39 |
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| MinceR | what a surprise, slowlaris failing at yet another basic task | Jan 31 14:40 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: runit stuffed it up on its 4 version. | Jan 31 14:40 |
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| MinceR | how many distributions were using it in their allegedly stable releases at that time? | Jan 31 14:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as I say the zombie fail turns out to be kinda universal when ever someone writes a new so called init do a zombie test if you go by history. | Jan 31 14:41 |
| oiaohm | I call the zombie issue a failure to learn from history. | Jan 31 14:41 |
| MinceR | what do you call tacking on superfluous features without caring to get the basics right? | Jan 31 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Even the DNS one where was the distribution quality control testing for that historic fault. Remember that historic fault could have come back from a bad glibc or many other causes. | Jan 31 14:43 |
| MinceR | also, i wonder which is the first version of runit that even offered pid1 support -- iirc it's not their focus | Jan 31 14:43 |
| MinceR | yes, a "historic fault" which is a well known trap to avoid for any competent person designing a DNS resolver | Jan 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Please note redhat found the same fault in 3 option resolvers they were shipping as well. | Jan 31 14:44 |
| MinceR | but it's hard to do competent design when you're just rushing to add more features | Jan 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | There is need for a test suite looking for know historic glitches. | Jan 31 14:45 |
| MinceR | there is need for employing software engineers to design critical software | Jan 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | To keep those historic glitches dead. | Jan 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when you are saying breaking NTP are you refering to this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-timesyncd | Jan 31 14:46 |
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| MinceR | yes | Jan 31 14:46 |
| oiaohm | There is in fact a reason against doing a full NTP sync. Turns out in a local lan with every machine attempting a full NTP can end up with time variations large enough to cause Kerberos and the like to fail. | Jan 31 14:48 |
| oiaohm | So there is a need for a trimmed down option. | Jan 31 14:49 |
| MinceR | and what has poettering done that's even remotely "trimmed down"? | Jan 31 14:49 |
| oiaohm | timesyncd is a very trimmed down NTP it only access 1 server and does not attempt any correction maths. | Jan 31 14:51 |
| oiaohm | timesyncd is even design that it cannot provide time to other systems. So if you want time server for a network you have to install the normal NTP packages. | Jan 31 14:52 |
| MinceR | you forgot the part where it depends on systemd | Jan 31 14:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this one gets interesting. when systemd-timesyncd was first made it depended on dbus and systemd-networkd today it only depends on dbus so can be built as a independant binary to the everything else systemd. | Jan 31 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Lot of parts of systemd these days can be built as indivdual binaries. | Jan 31 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Seams to be a issue just because it in the systemd source repository that it some how has to be built magically connected to everything else and that is not the case. | Jan 31 14:58 |
| MinceR | and when you fall for it, they spring the trap | Jan 31 14:58 |
| oiaohm | turns out having timesyncd linked to extra parts of systemd gave them more bugs to fix. | Jan 31 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Reality is not in systemd developer sanity to glue it too much together. | Jan 31 14:59 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is not like a busybox where they are stuffing it all in a single executable. | Jan 31 15:03 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34808956/dtach-in-systemd-service-file dtach one I not sure on that one. Systemd automatically starts services dtached. | Jan 31 15:06 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I have used a standard crond with systemd and I have used the python scripts of systemd-cron that map cron options to systemd. | Jan 31 15:07 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: screen, tmux if you did back when it comes to the design of logind before systemd there was the idea of add auto process kill on logout and there was a option in consolekit to have to do the same thing. | Jan 31 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all systemd did to screen and tmux really was change a default that was in consolekit to off to on in logind. | Jan 31 15:11 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: have you already forgotten about what they did to udev? | Jan 31 15:26 |
| MinceR | http://archive.is/pxRdY | Jan 31 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source tree | Jan 31 15:27 | |
| MinceR | >The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible with | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | non-systemd init systems for a long time. | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | Jan 31 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader | Jan 31 15:28 | |
| MinceR | >Unless the systemd-haters prepare another | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we will | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call. | Jan 31 15:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and you expect me to trust these microsoftian assholes with yet another piece of software | Jan 31 15:28 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: as for busybox, you can specify what parts you want built in that executable, and none of it locks you into the rest of busybox | Jan 31 15:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: dtach, screen and tmux are often started from the shell | Jan 31 15:32 |
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| MinceR | and yeah, "all systemd did" about that was break expected, correct behavior | Jan 31 15:33 |
| MinceR | but who cares what the owners and sysadmins want, in the brave new microsoftian world, poettering decides what happens on your linux-based systems | Jan 31 15:33 |
| MinceR | and then the morons from the FSF swear up and down it's soo freedom-respecting | Jan 31 15:34 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I had not forgotten about udev https://lwn.net/Articles/518942/ From the udev development the in Linux kernel firmware loader should have been backported. Because doing in userspace when issues went particular ways caused 30 second+ stalls. | Jan 31 21:08 |
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| MinceR | i see, so not only do you not mind poettering&co. luring users into traps, you then propose that it's the users' responsibility to climb out of the traps | Jan 31 21:10 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 31 21:10 |
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| SebthreeBQM10HD | hi | Jan 31 21:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the udev one is tricky. If user uses like init=/bin/bash so udev is not started for some recovery reason and some driver fires up that need firmware since udev is not loaded the system can stall. | Jan 31 21:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so that is a bug and a half. | Jan 31 21:13 |
| MinceR | you're trying to divert from the point | Jan 31 21:15 |
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| oiaohm | No I am not the issue you pointed to was udev removing usermode firmware loading. The reason for that is a dispute. The dispute comes down to system recovery. | Jan 31 21:16 |
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| XRevan86 | SebthreeBQM10HD: hi | Jan 31 21:16 |
| oiaohm | systemd project attempted to apply force to get a feature backported. | Jan 31 21:16 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | XRevan86, hi | Jan 31 21:17 |
| oiaohm | Has the udev project before merge with systemd on other things done the same thing the answer is yes. | Jan 31 21:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so the udev issue was not exacty new. | Jan 31 21:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the systemd merge just really brought more media attention on when development of udev and kernel decided to fight. | Jan 31 21:18 |
| MinceR | wrong | Jan 31 21:18 |
| oiaohm | Not wrong the first udev kernel fight is 1999 | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | the assimilation of udev into systemd was simply an attempt to use lock-in to force systemd on all users of the linux kernel | Jan 31 21:19 |
| oiaohm | way before systemd | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | including android | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | can you elucidate to me how can udev depend on systemd "way before" systemd even existed? | Jan 31 21:19 |
| oiaohm | Google had backported kernel firmware loading into their 3.2 | Jan 31 21:19 |
| MinceR | i'd be very interested in this time machine red hat owns and operates | Jan 31 21:19 |
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| oiaohm | The 1999 fight was triggered fro suse. | Jan 31 21:20 |
| oiaohm | The assimilation of udev was that the project was put for 12 requesting a new maintainer and no one stepped forwards. | Jan 31 21:21 |
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| MinceR | and the one that did, did so with the intention of killing unix | Jan 31 21:22 |
| oiaohm | If you read when the that request was put up there was a warning that there there were distribution breaking changes that had to be looked at. | Jan 31 21:23 |
| oiaohm | So there is a lot around the udev mess. | Jan 31 21:24 |
| MinceR | but mostly just red hat being malicious | Jan 31 21:24 |
| oiaohm | Really exactly why is it redhat job on it own to maintain udev? At some point redhat does have to select their own interests. | Jan 31 21:25 |
| oiaohm | So the udev mess is caused how a lot of problems in open source has been caused. Depending on a project then not doing anything for maintainership then get up set when some change means it no longer works for your project. | Jan 31 21:26 |
| MinceR | yes, really, why does redhat have to touch it at all? | Jan 31 21:27 |
| oiaohm | Because otherwise there was going to be no maintainer at all to merge patches why they put a staff memember on it in the first place when it was udev because patches had not been merged for 3 months. | Jan 31 21:28 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jan 31 21:28 |
| MinceR | then it will stay in an old, but still usable state | Jan 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | as opposed to basically the slow and painful route to windows | Jan 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | if these people can only make software worse, then they perhaps should not get to touch it at all | Jan 31 21:29 |
| oiaohm | Redhat had maintained udev long before systemd. | Jan 31 21:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, redhat existed for a long time before they turned into microsoft's assassin | Jan 31 21:30 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://git.busybox.net/busybox/plain/docs/mdev.txt interesting enough over the udev merge and change only one distributions provided people to take care of the alternative. | Jan 31 21:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: do note the thing in the mdev.txt "Kernel does not serialize hotplug events." this include firmware request to userspace. And some buggy kernel driver can attempt to fire up when it has it firmware when a driver under it has not fired up because it does not have it firmware. This does not happen when the in kernel firmware loader is being used. | Jan 31 21:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a issue there at even using the alternative does not fix. | Jan 31 21:39 |
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| MinceR | i doubt that the kernel people can't fix this issue without turning GNU/Linux into windows | Jan 31 21:43 |
| MinceR | they tended to be otherwise relatively competent | Jan 31 21:43 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem. Newer branches of the Linux kernel fixed the firmware loader problem by integrating into kernel. And deprecating the userspace interface for loading firmware to the point that past a particular kernel version will never call userspace for firmware. | Jan 31 21:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sometimes the way the Linux kernel has fixed a particular issue then never back ports that fix to LTS versions is the problem. | Jan 31 21:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: old saying it takes two to tango and the udev and linux kernel mess over firmware loading both are at fault for different reasons. | Jan 31 21:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the udev firmware loading thing would be a different matter if you could point to mdev and equal showing an example working without bugs or that the kernel had not made another solution that had deprecated the interface. | Jan 31 21:55 |
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| cubexyz | systemd goes against unix philosophy | Jan 31 23:43 |
| cubexyz | I don't want it | Jan 31 23:43 |
| cubexyz | launchd is anti-unix for that matter | Jan 31 23:44 |
| cubexyz | have a look at my old scanner program: | Jan 31 23:45 |
| MinceR | but but but... unix is not "modern"! | Jan 31 23:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/scantest3.c | Jan 31 23:45 |
| cubexyz | that won't work on new linux because /dev/usb/scanner0 doesn't exist | Jan 31 23:45 |
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| cubexyz | you can't rely on them not changing things | Jan 31 23:47 |
| MinceR | who would want to use a scanner program that wasn't written in the last 2 years anyway? :> | Jan 31 23:48 |
| cubexyz | there used to be a LKM for the scanner, but that got axed | Jan 31 23:49 |
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| cubexyz | my main point is the old system worked... it didn't need to be changed | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | (now using a broken adaptation of a badly designed kernel from 1977, with a windowing system built into it, and imitations thereof, on the other hand... now that's "modern"!) | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | i understand all that | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | but people like oiaohm apparently don't :> | Jan 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | for some people, what matters is that it must be new and shiny, and whether it works at all is uninteresting | Jan 31 23:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really there are a lot of reports before systemd that sysvinit had issues. Add in the multi attempt to make a replacement to sysvinit. That stuff does not happen if there are not bugs. | Jan 31 23:55 |
| cubexyz | they just like to change things | Jan 31 23:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly http://smarden.org/runit/ you have to remember before systemd we had stuff like this. | Jan 31 23:56 |
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| oiaohm | There were ongoing issues with service supervision due to defects in sysvinit design. | Jan 31 23:56 |
| oiaohm | So the idea to replace the init system did not come out the vacuum. | Jan 31 23:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: also with putting video card memory management into kernel space was also the on-going issue of switch to console and back to graphical and have everything go nuts. | Jan 31 23:58 |
| cubexyz | even so forcing systemd on all distros is wrong | Jan 31 23:58 |
| cubexyz | just pick the init system you like and stick with it | Jan 31 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Lot of distributions were not forced. But also had not invested in making a solution of their own to the on going service management problem. | Jan 31 23:59 |
| oiaohm | systemd market share comes out of a vacuum of working solutions. | Feb 01 00:00 |
| cubexyz | upstart seemed OK to me | Feb 01 00:00 |
| cubexyz | backward compatible with the old system | Feb 01 00:00 |
| oiaohm | upstart was dropped by ubuntu for systemd because using ptrace to follow services for service management than not doing service management. | Feb 01 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Reality is the only group that has attempt a solution that stands a chance of working that is something like sysvinit is openrc start by gentoo. | Feb 01 00:02 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem when you dig in and ask the question does the service management work. You find repeated attempt to add service management to the init system that has bugs and does not work for years. | Feb 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | video card memory manager != windowing system | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | i think even dave cutler might be able to understand the difference | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | though i wouldn't bet on it | Feb 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Linux kernel has not put a windows system in kernel. | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | but poettering's great inspiration, windows nt, has | Feb 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but what people say is going like windows is drm in kernel that is memory management in kernel. | Feb 01 00:06 |
| oiaohm | In fact poettering was pushing to move the terminal code out of the Linux kernel. | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | upstart was horrible, but systemd makes it look good | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know | Feb 01 00:06 |
| oiaohm | So the idea of coping windows is in fact wrong. | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | poettering wants the terminal code in systemd, so you don't get to use linux without systemd | Feb 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | it's always the same goal | Feb 01 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Ok there is only 400+ CVE with the linux kernel terminal code. | Feb 01 00:07 |
| cubexyz | yeah he's trying to worm it into linux so it's forced | Feb 01 00:07 |
| cubexyz | was is wrong with upstart? | Feb 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | it abuses signals and ptrace | Feb 01 00:08 |
| cubexyz | did sysvinit do that? | Feb 01 00:08 |
| oiaohm | upstart service management that end up disabled more often then not used ptrace and signals in very horrible ways. | Feb 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | no | Feb 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | sysvinit relies on pid files | Feb 01 00:09 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: sysvinit does not have service management that works because it presumes PID numbers are never recycled. | Feb 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | except it does, because services very rarely crash and PID numbers are very rarely recycled | Feb 01 00:09 |
| oiaohm | So both are broken. | Feb 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | meanwhile systemd relies on cgroups for everything, even though they know it doesn't do reliably what they want from it | Feb 01 00:09 |
| cubexyz | but Linux does recycle PIDs does it not? | Feb 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Every distribution has a bugs reported why they were using sysvinit of cases of PID recycling and crashed services. | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | but that's fine, because it was blessed by poettering so all of its faults are to be ignored, otherwise you're a heretic | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Feb 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so saying it does not have does not agree with distribution bug reports. | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes, it does | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | >every distribution | Feb 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | every distribution doesn't even have a bug tracker | Feb 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | sysv that sysvinit is from reboot when it had used up all the PID numbers. | Feb 01 00:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, is there anything that works like sysvinit but doesn't have bugs? | Feb 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | no | Feb 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | all software that is at least as complex as sysvinit (i.e. non-trivial) is very likely to have bugs | Feb 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | The closest is openrc but that thing is not complete. | Feb 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | openrc uses the sysvinit init binary | Feb 01 00:11 |
| cubexyz | wow, I can't recall any problems on FC1, and it's been 13 years now | Feb 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | that's because such problems are very unlikely | Feb 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | but they're the straws poettering&co. are grasping at | Feb 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sorry the PID issue in sysvinit was first documented in a book against Unix before Linux existed. | Feb 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | So not straw aguements also that issue lead to many of the attempts to do service management. | Feb 01 00:13 |
| cubexyz | the system must increment the PID until it rises to a maximum value, then wrap around | Feb 01 00:14 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: sorry, the cgroup issue is also documented, even in systemd source code | Feb 01 00:14 |
| cubexyz | not sure how long that takes | Feb 01 00:14 |
| MinceR | even though those guys probably experience physical pain every time they write a line of comment | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | seeing how rare they are in their shitty code | Feb 01 00:15 |
| cubexyz | I think AIX is a bit different though | Feb 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: cgroup v1 was replaced by cgroupv2. | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | and then it will be replaced by v3 | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | and maybe eventually it will even work | Feb 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | And to make cgroup v1 defects be fixed something that to use it in volume. | Feb 01 00:15 |
| cubexyz | which distros are you guys using now? | Feb 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | if there will even be demand for linux and anyone will still be working on it | Feb 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | I am on debian testing. | Feb 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | despite redhat doing everything they can to destroy it | Feb 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | i'm still on crunchbang11, raspbian7, debian7 and devuan1 | Feb 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: unlikely to be a cgroup v3. cgroupv1 was a mess because it was 3 different project ideas mixed with each other and not unified to work as a single solution. | Feb 01 00:17 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm on FC1, slack and openbsd and chromeos and a bunch of other stuff | Feb 01 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Its like one of the current linux bugs of not being able to move memory blocks containing SLAB allocations to defrag ram to allow huge pages to be used to perform faster IO. | Feb 01 00:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: sweeping bugs under carpet with it works for me answer always end up with a change sooner or latter. | Feb 01 00:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: does sweeping bugs under the carpet with "but it's modern!" work better, then? | Feb 01 00:20 |
| cubexyz | what about new bugs? :) | Feb 01 00:20 |
| cubexyz | you think the new stuff is going to be bug free? | Feb 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | has this CADT approach of forgetting everything and rewriting the whole thing from scratch, rinse, and repeat, ever led to workable software? | Feb 01 00:21 |
| cubexyz | GE Nuclear power plants are still using PDP-11s | Feb 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: obviously, they're heretics | Feb 01 00:21 |
| cubexyz | now, there must be a reason for that | Feb 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| cubexyz | I suspect that it's because they know EXACTLY how it works | Feb 01 00:22 |
| oiaohm | New stuff is never 100 percent bug free. But at times the only way to fix something is to start from stratch and attempt something new. | Feb 01 00:22 |
| MinceR | when will it ever be fixed if you just forget everything and restart? | Feb 01 00:22 |
| MinceR | scratch that, how do you expect things to be fixed at all with an obviously broken fundamental design? | Feb 01 00:22 |
| cubexyz | they didn't fix the old stuff, I bet they don't fix the new stuff either | Feb 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | (things like 'stuff everything in pid1, running as root' and 'force people to use my binary logging daemon' and 'assume that if a daemon spawns a subprocess, that can only be a component of that daemon and not an independent daemon') | Feb 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | there had been many attempts to fix the old stuff like with upstart. openrc is the newest attempt to fix with the old stuff. | Feb 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | there are also many non-pid1 service managers | Feb 01 00:24 |
| MinceR | things you people like to pretend don't exist | Feb 01 00:24 |
| cubexyz | it doesn't matter | Feb 01 00:24 |
| cubexyz | as long as you can use what you want | Feb 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no I don't and most of the non-pid1 service managers had been attempted to code generically so end up failing on Linux | Feb 01 00:24 |
| cubexyz | and not be forced into anything | Feb 01 00:24 |
| MinceR | yeah, being able to use what i want would be nice | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you like to forget that systemd is coded that it can in fact run without pid1 | Feb 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | but for some people this seems to be impossible | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | systemd started life as a service manager. | Feb 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, i remember code in it that aborts if it doesn't have the coveted pid1 | Feb 01 00:25 |
| cubexyz | obviously FC1 and sysvinit works well enough for me, as it's been proven to work for 13 years | Feb 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | that must work so well | Feb 01 00:25 |
| cubexyz | that's good enough | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the go read the code again. In fact it does not abort if it not pid1. | Feb 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | So systemd could be run exactly like solaris solution. | Feb 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | slowlaris sucks and it's dying | Feb 01 00:26 |
| cubexyz | IBM mainframes are probably the most reliable | Feb 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | also, at least one version of it runs SMF as pid1, iirc | Feb 01 00:26 |
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| oiaohm | SMF can be run as pid1 or can be run without it. | Feb 01 00:27 |
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| oiaohm | Most of the focus on the PID1 about systemd is fear of change and not wanting to consider the issues that need to be addressed like service management. | Feb 01 00:28 |
| cubexyz | I never understood why udev was necessary either | Feb 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | it's supposedly a more elegant approach to dynamic device nodes than devfs was | Feb 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | iirc devfs did everything in kernel, with udev the kernel only creates device nodes and udev in userspace sets permissions, ownership and triggers actions | Feb 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's all about fear of change | Feb 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | because i fled from winblows to unix because i was afraid of change, not because i was tired of broken, bloated, inflexible crap where everything was kept secret from me | Feb 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | and where every single secret was used as a weapon against me | Feb 01 00:31 |
| oiaohm | udev/mdev mostly comes about due to supporting hotplugging and having to correctly permission assign permissions. | Feb 01 00:31 |
| MinceR | devfs already supported hotplugging | Feb 01 00:31 |
| cubexyz | by the time I understand udev they'll probably change it again | Feb 01 00:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://lwn.net/Articles/65197/ there was a nice write up why static and devfs was given up on. | Feb 01 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-udev and devfs - The final word [LWN.net] | Feb 01 00:31 | |
| cubexyz | I guess that's what mdev is, the successor to udev? :) | Feb 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | isn't mdev busybox's lightweight udev replacement? | Feb 01 00:32 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think you're right | Feb 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | there's also a vdev in the works, probably less broken than what redhat is twisting into a broken mess | Feb 01 00:32 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I don't usually unplug my scanner | Feb 01 00:33 |
| oiaohm | mdev is busybox solution. | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | so static is fine | Feb 01 00:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: plugin in usb memory keys and the like as well. | Feb 01 00:33 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: who cares what you do? the only thing that matters is what poettering usually does ;) | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | oh, I know no one cares what I do :) | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | that's very clear | Feb 01 00:33 |
| MinceR | only his use cases matter; all those GNU/Linux servers and their sysadmins can burn in hell :> | Feb 01 00:33 |
| cubexyz | burning in hell would be using windows 10 I'd say | Feb 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | yes, but redhat and the FSF brings you all the design flaws and maliciousness of windows without the price ;) | Feb 01 00:34 |
| MinceR | also, all the lack of control | Feb 01 00:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: vdev also does not support firmware loading. | Feb 01 00:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so does not have to have firmware validation. | Feb 01 00:36 |
| cubexyz | honestly I don't really like udev | Feb 01 00:36 |
| cubexyz | and I don't continually unplug my devices | Feb 01 00:36 |
| cubexyz | I don't even trust usb drives | Feb 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | and i don't have multiseat desktops | Feb 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | but they don't care what we do or want | Feb 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | they only care about their schemes | Feb 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | usb drives so defective A LOT | Feb 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | s/so/go/ | Feb 01 00:37 |
| cubexyz | you must understand that server is different from laptop | Feb 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | i do | Feb 01 00:38 |
| cubexyz | with a laptop yes, you probably would unplug stuff all the time | Feb 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, redhat people and their fans do not | Feb 01 00:38 |
| MinceR | they probably run windows on their "servers" | Feb 01 00:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: In fact I run Linux in my servers and have run into the recycled PID issue. | Feb 01 00:39 |
| cubexyz | yeah I don't think oiaohm would want to run windows | Feb 01 00:39 |
| MinceR | he wants something that's identical to windows, but is gratis :> | Feb 01 00:40 |
| cubexyz | I'll make my own distro eventually | Feb 01 00:40 |
| oiaohm | I want things like BSD and solaris have had for a long time like working service tracking. | Feb 01 00:40 |
| cubexyz | then everyone will say give me systemd and I'll say no :) | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | and redhat will gladly let you have your own distro, as long as it's a fedora with a custom logo, name and wallpaper | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | everything else will have to be Standardized(tm) | Feb 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | redhat does centos and redora as well as paid. | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | yeah | Feb 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | fedora | Feb 01 00:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes I sould avoid that joke about fedora. | Feb 01 00:41 |
| MinceR | rHELL is a supposedly more stabilized fedora (which means nothing, since these people have no clue what stability means) and centos is a gratis rHELL | Feb 01 00:42 |
| oiaohm | fedora has so many bugs it will make you bleed so it deserves the name redora. | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | so it's 1 distro in 3 clothings | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | retardora | Feb 01 00:42 |
| cubexyz | Fedora 14 was the end for me | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | and they all ship the same unreliable broken package manager, which they'll probably assimilate into systemd | Feb 01 00:42 |
| MinceR | so they can shove it down debian users' throats | Feb 01 00:43 |
| cubexyz | which init system does devuan use? | Feb 01 00:43 |
| MinceR | sysvinit by default | Feb 01 00:43 |
| oiaohm | devuan is choose you own from stack of different grades of broken. | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | there's an openrc package, but i don't know how well supported it is currently | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | afaik it will be more of a focus in the next release | Feb 01 00:44 |
| cubexyz | how about a distro without udev? :) | Feb 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I tried devuan with openrc it makes gentoo openrc from 3 years ago look stable. | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | and there are other packages too, probably | Feb 01 00:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good for you | Feb 01 00:44 |
| oiaohm | I like openrc | Feb 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | and i tried fedora 15 and it's crap | Feb 01 00:45 |
| oiaohm | design | Feb 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | sure you do | Feb 01 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826587666489700352 | Feb 01 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS Delayed A Second Time | Feb 01 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FSo4ls0GQb (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 01 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 01 00:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS Delayed A Second Time - Phoronix | Feb 01 00:45 | |
| MinceR | like concern trolls "like" GNU/Linux | Feb 01 00:45 |
| MinceR | "i even booted it once!" | Feb 01 00:45 |
| oiaohm | Current one openrc in gentoo is quite nice. | Feb 01 00:45 |
| cubexyz | ah, you can create all devices as static in LFS | Feb 01 00:45 |
| oiaohm | But I don;t like gentoo package management. | Feb 01 00:45 |
| cubexyz | is there a package manager you do like? | Feb 01 00:47 |
| oiaohm | debian is the closest with the packages I use but I have liked nixos package management a lot. | Feb 01 00:47 |
| MinceR | i would have liked nix more if it worked more reliably | Feb 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | but still, i can get a few applications from it | Feb 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | and have them work | Feb 01 00:48 |
| cubexyz | bah... tarballs :) | Feb 01 00:48 |
| cubexyz | only way to learn | Feb 01 00:48 |
| MinceR | tarball is not very specific | Feb 01 00:48 |
| cubexyz | you learn about libraries though, I promise :) | Feb 01 00:49 |
| MinceR | could be source, could be binary you can unpack and use anywhere, could be binary that has to be unpacked in root | Feb 01 00:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so nix package management we both like and both hate it lack of stablity. | Feb 01 00:49 |
| cubexyz | right, OK I meant source tarball | Feb 01 00:49 |
| MinceR | source tarballs can be a lot of pain sometimes | Feb 01 00:49 |
| cubexyz | yeah I did have some problems compiling newsbeuter | Feb 01 00:50 |
| cubexyz | and canto... ugh it was bad | Feb 01 00:50 |
| MinceR | xonotic's portable binary zip is nice, except it was built with a libc that's newer than mine so i had to build from git anyway | Feb 01 00:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my biggest cause of PID recycling is items like postgresql that start a process for a connection have a stack of rapid conections be wrapping through the pid numbers quite quickly. | Feb 01 00:51 |
| MinceR | i'd rather have a service manager handle those than let systemd screw with my systems | Feb 01 00:52 |
| MinceR | (this also has the advantage of letting pid1 being arbitrarily simple) | Feb 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | I want a working service manager. | Feb 01 00:52 |
| MinceR | tough, you got what's on the market. :> | Feb 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | That does not gitch in particular random case. | Feb 01 00:52 |
| cubexyz | sometimes I start X or sshd on it's own | Feb 01 00:52 |
| oiaohm | The lowest gitch count service manager on Linux at the moment it a toss up between docker or systemd. | Feb 01 00:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @theintercept For anyone who still thinks that...' | Feb 01 00:53 | |
| MinceR | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=383 | Feb 01 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vgcats.com | VG Cats - Bro, Fist Pound For Update | Feb 01 01:01 | |
| MinceR | systemd is not a service manager, it's an OS | Feb 01 01:05 |
| MinceR | and neither is docker, it's a virtualization platform | Feb 01 01:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826594426197667841 | Feb 01 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Upcoming GNU/Linux Event https://t.co/TFIq60Zg2Q | Feb 01 01:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upcoming GNU/Linux Event | Tux Machines | Feb 01 01:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @NatCounterPunch So many good people associated with...' | Feb 01 01:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit Julian Assange father, John Shipton,...' | Feb 01 01:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit You can learn a lot about what...' | Feb 01 01:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #trump now pursues what he himself called...' | Feb 01 01:31 | |
| cubexyz | I always wondered what rarian-sk-get-cl was | Feb 01 01:33 |
| cubexyz | it's newish... doesn't exist in FC1 | Feb 01 01:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CanItellit The US is "home of the brave"...' | Feb 01 01:36 | |
| cubexyz | cl == content list I think | Feb 01 01:37 |
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| cubexyz | ah, LFS to the rescue | Feb 01 01:38 |
| cubexyz | evidently a replacement for scrollkeeper | Feb 01 01:40 |
| cubexyz | "a documentation metadata library" | Feb 01 01:40 |
| cubexyz | scrollkeeper would be a good name for a dungeon crawler game :) | Feb 01 01:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@ADHD_Panther @wikileaks I wrongly thought that the #AltReich...' | Feb 01 01:42 | |
| cubexyz | yeah FC1 has scrollkeeper | Feb 01 01:42 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Well, #clinton privately boasted she was a...' | Feb 01 01:51 | |
| cubexyz | we are actually fortunate to get source code | Feb 01 02:02 |
| cubexyz | I can definitely remember the amigados days, the xenix days | Feb 01 02:02 |
| cubexyz | I was only able to see a tiny part of the xenix source | Feb 01 02:02 |
| cubexyz | still haven't seen more than a small part to this day | Feb 01 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826608945871646720 | Feb 01 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Barix Brings Linux Open Source Programmability To | Feb 01 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Barionet I/O Device https://t.co/FtD3v8bFgb | Feb 01 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (livedesignonline.com) https://t.co/P1ObAC15j9 | Feb 01 02:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tenlinks.com) | Feb 01 02:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-livedesignonline.com | Barix Brings Linux Open Source Programmability To Barionet I/O Device | Live Design Briefing Room press release archives | Feb 01 02:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 01 02:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Barix to Introduce Barionet 1000 Universal I/O Device | TenLinks News | Feb 01 02:08 | |
| cubexyz | I got the amigaos 3.1 source, haven't really had much time to look at it as yet | Feb 01 02:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@coolnilk @wikileaks and then what? Vichy France?...' | Feb 01 02:12 | |
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| cubexyz | wonder if ACI is still in business | Feb 01 02:29 |
| cubexyz | probably gone, along with C2 Office gear | Feb 01 02:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826618742121648129 | Feb 01 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 31/1/2017: KDE Plasma 5.9, OPNsense 17.1 | Feb 01 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BrtzPXDz82 (techrights.org) | Feb 01 02:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/tt1Dpc9cWe | Feb 01 02:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Barix Brings Linux Open Source Programmability To | Feb 01 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Barionet I/O Device https://t.co/DpnykU6hwB | Feb 01 02:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Barix Brings Linux Open Source Programmability To Barionet I/O Device | Tux Machines | Feb 01 02:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826619341470789632 | Feb 01 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Debian and Ubuntu https://t.co/05WNTojgvC | Feb 01 02:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Feb 01 02:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826619343551160320 | Feb 01 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/pNVpBhfBI0 | Feb 01 02:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Feb 01 02:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826619345295994880 | Feb 01 02:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/xg6BHzYC8z | Feb 01 02:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826619348664004608 | Feb 01 02:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/6s7klHaw08 | Feb 01 02:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/fuLb9Tsj0I | Feb 01 02:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/QrloW8UFPu | Feb 01 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Feb 01 02:34 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CageyBeast1 @wikileaks @POLITICOEurope No, the EU makes Europe...' | Feb 01 03:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Wyatt_J1 Take #brexit for instance. What have we...' | Feb 01 03:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Full text of Trump memo ordering nuclear posture...' | Feb 01 03:22 | |
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| cubexyz | seeing if I can compile kolourpaint for KDE 4.14.3 | Feb 01 04:06 |
| cubexyz | don't like how it selects an area | Feb 01 04:07 |
| cubexyz | what else is there | Feb 01 04:08 |
| cubexyz | kooka was orphaned | Feb 01 04:09 |
| cubexyz | there's scanimage and xscanimage but there'd kind of hard to use | Feb 01 04:14 |
| cubexyz | you know what would be cool.... a news aggregator that works on a keyword | Feb 01 04:20 |
| cubexyz | so you could go: "aggregate slackware" and it would get you all the slackware news | Feb 01 04:20 |
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| cubexyz | haha: | Feb 01 05:33 |
| cubexyz | "Since there are still a rare few machines without the appropriate hardware, smell-o-vision will have to remain optional. | Feb 01 05:33 |
| cubexyz | But, the current combined policies at MICROS~1 and Apple of deprecating any and all hardare and software more than six months old should fix that. That will also solve the fear that a system might still be in use after its printer ink or smell-o-vision supplies are used up." | Feb 01 05:33 |
| cubexyz | oh no, the scofflaws might refill their ink cartridges... can't have that | Feb 01 05:34 |
| cubexyz | ttp://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/31/climate-change-data-saving-trump_n_14531820.html | Feb 01 05:52 |
| cubexyz | http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/31/climate-change-data-saving-trump_n_14531820.html | Feb 01 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.ca | Climate Scientists Turn To Canadian Organizations To Save Vulnerable Data From Trump | Feb 01 05:52 | |
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| cubexyz | got to build ntfsprogs for slack... let's hope this works | Feb 01 08:13 |
| cubexyz | wonder why it's not in the repo | Feb 01 08:14 |
| cubexyz | oh wait a sec... ntfsfix is in /usr/sbin/ | Feb 01 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826718022706544642 | Feb 01 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Feb 01 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vxRRDOqvr2 (www.computerworld.com) | Feb 01 09:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Computerworld | Feb 01 09:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826720012014489600 | Feb 01 09:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Feb 01 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | If you want privacy you need to run Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 09:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: If you want privacy you need to run Linux https://t.co/klnP08nx5P https://t.co/DmGDy4NDRt | Feb 01 09:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Feb 01 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version | Tux Machines | Feb 01 09:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: HPI's Latest Thin Clients Include a Linux Version https://t.co/y9eFalSzfE https://t.co/kbOsN00TJJ | Feb 01 09:15 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd is not a service manager, it's an OS << That is not true. systemd in 2016 got the means to run without privilege and operate as a service manager without the extras. docker service management lines up to AIX style. | Feb 01 09:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Депутаты Петербурга призвали привлечь участников акции против передачи Исаакия РПЦ по статье об оскорблении чувств верующих | Feb 01 10:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Pyston 0.6.1 https://t.co/JAFqTLRYcJ | Feb 01 10:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.10 Desktop and 5.9 Release | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10 Desktop and 5.9 Release | Tux Machines | Feb 01 10:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support | Feb 01 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Creation of LVM RAID https://t.co/gLdEx49IBl | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 26 Linux to Ship with GNOME 3.24 Desktop, Support Creation of LVM RAID | Tux Machines | Feb 01 10:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826737137382875137 | Feb 01 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9 Released, 5.10 Previewed; Steam Machines | Feb 01 10:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RIP https://t.co/tnlVA8POX0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9 Released, 5.10 Previewed; Steam Machines RIP | Tux Machines | Feb 01 10:21 | |
| cubexyz | man... changed the motherboard on the customer's computer now I can't boot into XP | Feb 01 10:26 |
| cubexyz | quite a mess | Feb 01 10:27 |
| cubexyz | now I have to deal with this reactivation shit | Feb 01 10:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: So it did boot? :D | Feb 01 10:28 |
| cubexyz | it did | Feb 01 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Already impressive. | Feb 01 10:29 |
| cubexyz | but it says there's a "significant change in hardware" so I have to reactivate | Feb 01 10:29 |
| cubexyz | I'm not even sure if M$ will support XP in 2017 | Feb 01 10:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Call the robot and check. | Feb 01 10:31 |
| XRevan86 | It shouldn't take long. | Feb 01 10:32 |
| cubexyz | I need to backup the data then I'll be changing the motherboard again :-/ | Feb 01 10:32 |
| XRevan86 | It should say something like "Art thou sure this copy of Windows is installed on only one PC?" | Feb 01 10:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: windows activation will trip everytime you change a motherboard. | Feb 01 10:35 |
| cubexyz | maybe safe mode will let me in | Feb 01 10:35 |
| cubexyz | well, the original motherboard is dead | Feb 01 10:35 |
| cubexyz | ha, I'm in | Feb 01 10:36 |
| oiaohm | https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/312295/you-are-prompted-to-activate-windows-xp-or-windows-server-2003-every-time-that-you-start-the-computer <<You might need this sledge hammer. | Feb 01 10:36 |
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| cubexyz | ok, good the data looks alright | Feb 01 10:37 |
| cubexyz | I can just blow it away as long as I get the data first | Feb 01 10:38 |
| cubexyz | damn, the usb drive isn't showing up | Feb 01 10:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that will be normal wrong drivers in windows. | Feb 01 10:41 |
| cubexyz | any way to get the usb hard drive working in safe mode? | Feb 01 10:42 |
| cubexyz | ugh.... maybe I'll try a linux live cd instead... this is getting me nowhere | Feb 01 10:42 |
| oiaohm | If right motherboard drivers and the like are installed usb hard drives will work in XP. | Feb 01 10:42 |
| oiaohm | in safe mode. | Feb 01 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Windows changing motherboards is a art from hell. | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | I'm sure the drives aren't there yet | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | as everything is different except for the hard drive :-/ | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | drivers | Feb 01 10:43 |
| cubexyz | this is taking a hell of a long time :-/ | Feb 01 10:45 |
| oiaohm | You most likely have the wrong ide drivers as well. | Feb 01 10:45 |
| cubexyz | probably | Feb 01 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Fairly much everything else important. | Feb 01 10:46 |
| oiaohm | With Linux we get so use to being able to change motherboards and have the majority work. | Feb 01 10:46 |
| cubexyz | yeah but as much as I'd love to blow XP away I have to get the data first | Feb 01 10:46 |
| oiaohm | If it only the data ntfs3g in Linux can be less painful. | Feb 01 10:47 |
| cubexyz | no backups since 2012 | Feb 01 10:48 |
| cubexyz | opensuse 12.1 didn't work... so switching to fedora 11 | Feb 01 10:49 |
| oiaohm | In fact with that statement I would be moving to Linux and ntfs drivers. Windows with incorrect ide drivers can do bad things. | Feb 01 10:49 |
| cubexyz | it didn't see the external drive | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| cubexyz | ok, I'm screwed | Feb 01 11:06 |
| cubexyz | external usb drive doesn't show up | Feb 01 11:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I just had a horible idea you have not done my most stupid error with USB ports attempting to use the USB ports in the front of case after change a motherboard I had not plugged in yet. | Feb 01 11:17 |
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| cubexyz | no, nothing that stupid :) | Feb 01 11:44 |
| cubexyz | fedora 11 live cd didn't find the external usb drive, but fedora 16 live cd did | Feb 01 11:45 |
| cubexyz | live and learn | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| cubexyz | doesn't mount it automatically though | Feb 01 11:56 |
| cubexyz | had to dig through dmesg to find it... then had a look in /dev | Feb 01 11:56 |
| cubexyz | why does it mount as fuseblk? | Feb 01 11:59 |
| cubexyz | dev names are a bit unusual as well | Feb 01 12:00 |
| cubexyz | /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb5 | Feb 01 12:01 |
| cubexyz | was up all night :-/ | Feb 01 12:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | COM runs Linux on tiny, power-sipping Cortex-A53 SoC | Feb 01 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826929871905505282 | Feb 01 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 | Feb 01 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PaHMDo3Ati (www.tizenexperts.com) | Feb 01 23:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Linux based Tizen 4.0 ready for release in September 2017 - Tizen Experts | Feb 01 23:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826930197962301440 | Feb 01 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive | Feb 01 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Director https://t.co/UygKz3gtgi (www.gnome.org) | Feb 01 23:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826930390841573378 | Feb 01 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with | Feb 01 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/nYCSjDG1kl | Feb 01 23:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 502 @ https://www.gnome.org/news/2017/02/neil-mcgovern-executive-director/ ) | Feb 01 23:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now | Feb 01 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826930784015613954 | Feb 01 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME 3.24, LDC 1.1 & Minimal Container Image Proposed | Feb 01 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Fedora 26 https://t.co/WyoYdCAGy5 (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 01 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME 3.24, LDC 1.1 & Minimal Container Image Proposed For Fedora 26 - Phoronix | Feb 01 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826931350125047809 | Feb 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Linux More Efficient Than Windows When it Comes to RAM | Feb 01 23:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Consumption? https://t.co/T4IFQqOCyN (news.tecmint.com) | Feb 01 23:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tecmint.com | Is Linux More Efficient Than Windows When it Comes to RAM Consumption? | Feb 01 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935306142167041 | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Director https://t.co/vqnAnh5miY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 01 23:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive Director | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Neil McGovern Named New GNOME Foundation Executive Director https://t.co/vqnAnh5miY https://t.co/XKd6itMb8Z | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935312064450560 | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/BZrl7ojYKH | Feb 01 23:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/vmjhbA4s4F | Feb 01 23:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO with 32-bit Support, Download Now https://t.co/BZrl7ojYKH https://t.co/vmjhbA4s4F | Feb 01 23:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935314190983168 | Feb 01 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Desktop https://t.co/pnM5RH2OUr | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Linux Foundation https://t.co/gvaT5HnIQq | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics in Linux https://t.co/G0NpasQTQW | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack News https://t.co/it16U5O0dr | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935321292001280 | Feb 01 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/1ohW4jAE1v | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/uOIUNJNZkK | Feb 01 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: funny | Feb 01 23:34 |
| schestowitz | but potentially offensive | Feb 01 23:34 |
| MinceR | best kind of funny | Feb 01 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826935324441923584 | Feb 01 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FOSS From Google https://t.co/AJtzO4Cwq4 | Feb 01 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS From Google | Tux Machines | Feb 01 23:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MashiRafael Ecuador has a very clever President,...' | Feb 01 23:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @MotherJones The US prefers to work through...' | Feb 01 23:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer @wikileaks @MotherJones A lot of news networks...' | Feb 01 23:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer Mother Jones spent a LOT of...' | Feb 01 23:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@pwgolfer Mother Jones stained their reputation and...' | Feb 01 23:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826941998024241152 | Feb 01 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 | Feb 01 23:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Iqj6XJrSbY (piboards.com) | Feb 01 23:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-piboards.com | Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 | Pi Boards | Feb 01 23:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO...' | Feb 01 23:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Arch Linux 2017.02.01 Released as the Last ISO...' | Feb 02 00:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'Retro Gaming with RetrOrangePi 3.0 https://t.co/Iqj6XJrSbY' | Feb 02 00:09 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/mZ6nV | Feb 02 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is why Adidas pants have vertical stripes and the sneakers' stripes have an angle. - Album on Imgur | Feb 02 00:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826945551820263424 | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "CloudLinux's Mykola Naugolnyi announced today that | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support for the CloudLinux 5 operating system series is | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ending" https://t.co/ARlU0eyWsp (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 | Feb 02 00:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826951656977752064 | Feb 02 00:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux/FOSS Events https://t.co/S57WTe53PH | Feb 02 00:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826951668868603904 | Feb 02 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life | Feb 02 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on March 31, 2017 https://t.co/7NeeoKLYcC | Feb 02 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/n3eefYLqvc | Feb 02 00:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End of Life on March 31, 2017 https://t.co/7NeeoKLYcC https://t.co/n3eefYLqvc | Feb 02 00:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@JesselynRadack 'Democrats' have no fire. A growingly defunct...' | Feb 02 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826960212909125635 | Feb 02 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/KTub6pxcWL | Feb 02 01:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968389839056896 | Feb 02 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/6yzBfj0kRQ | Feb 02 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968392137469952 | Feb 02 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/SYLG4bxtDP | Feb 02 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968393806811136 | Feb 02 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/6e1V6FyWU1 | Feb 02 01:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/826968395442593792 | Feb 02 01:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/ELOeKv7Zgy | Feb 02 01:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CloudLinux 5 Operating System Series to Reach End...' | Feb 02 01:46 | |
| cubexyz | well Microsoft sucks.. I wish I didn't have to deal with this XP box | Feb 02 02:05 |
| cubexyz | but a job's a job | Feb 02 02:05 |
| cubexyz | had some partition problems with the 2nd paritition on the HD | Feb 02 02:06 |
| cubexyz | testdisk seems to have fixed it though | Feb 02 02:07 |
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| cubexyz | not sure what the best way is to backup all data... hmmm | Feb 02 04:42 |
| cubexyz | there does seem to be some amount of interest in my v5 & v6 work | Feb 02 04:48 |
| cubexyz | v6 got downloaded 100 times | Feb 02 04:48 |
| cubexyz | can't work on v5 now though... too busy | Feb 02 04:49 |
| cubexyz | http://amultiverse.com/comic/2015/04/29/doomed-to-repeat/ | Feb 02 05:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827057846395236352 | Feb 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released | Feb 02 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vjNj4i0xm9 (techrights.org) | Feb 02 07:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released | Techrights | Feb 02 07:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 1/2/2017: LibreOffice 5.3 Officially Released https://t.co/vjNj4i0xm9' | Feb 02 07:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827062402235715584 | Feb 02 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is bringing an Android tablet to Mobile World | Feb 02 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Congress https://t.co/3Dp6HgJZZr (arstechnica.com) | Feb 02 07:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsung is bringing an Android tablet to Mobile World Congress | Ars Technica | Feb 02 07:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827063195907022848 | Feb 02 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Popular Android manufacturer OnePlus caught cheating in | Feb 02 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | benchmark tests | Feb 02 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mRWAuZOyjB (bgr.com) | Feb 02 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Popular Android manufacturer OnePlus caught cheating in benchmark tests – BGR | Feb 02 08:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/M2WdWvnoLW | Feb 02 09:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827084476362665984 | Feb 02 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung Pay Mini to launch for Android | Feb 02 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PdyBjhdkuI (www.zdnet.com) | Feb 02 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JDaPgGDvIh (www.reuters.com) | Feb 02 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Pay Mini to launch for Android | ZDNet | Feb 02 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 02 09:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Electronics to launch web payments service for Android phones in South Korea | Reuters | Feb 02 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085276438724610 | Feb 02 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/MQE8pct9mO | Feb 02 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Feb 02 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085488293027840 | Feb 02 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses | Feb 02 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rIwoV9BUQg (news.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 09:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses...' | Feb 02 09:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827085817768206336 | Feb 02 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Feb 02 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vspnjWCQex (fossforce.com) | Feb 02 09:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | FOSS Force | Feb 02 09:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827086698865688577 | Feb 02 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live | Feb 02 09:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Your PC or Laptop https://t.co/gAanaQWtxt | Feb 02 09:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop | Feb 02 09:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827087246754996226 | Feb 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Krita 3.1.2 released! https://t.co/L7rHarR02p (krita.org) | Feb 02 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 02 09:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Krita 3.1.2 released! | Krita | Feb 02 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827087427709833216 | Feb 02 09:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings | Feb 02 09:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Subtraction of Black Levels | Feb 02 09:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/djFdj9Rk3S (linux.softpedia.com) | Feb 02 09:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings Subtraction of Black Levels - Softpedia Linux | Feb 02 09:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827088433659133952 | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nUWX5bUHc3 (lists.debian.org) | Feb 02 09:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release | Feb 02 09:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093092696154113 | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR | Feb 02 09:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses | Feb 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Feb 02 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 09:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses Applications from GNOME 3.22 Stack https://t.co/wd04HsrKaq https://t.co/hRHIelEXrP | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093102313607168 | Feb 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Feb 02 09:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Eye for the Android Guy | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source Eye for the Android Guy https://t.co/0xs6F79LaU https://t.co/6504nLsLZH | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827093107783069700 | Feb 02 09:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour | Feb 02 09:56 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Solus Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.9.7, Uses...' | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour | Tux Machines | Feb 02 09:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Open Source BioHack Kit in courses and on tour https://t.co/KnU87pQv8j https://t.co/OyyL5lOSlY | Feb 02 09:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux distros https://t.co/ma5iJKBxya | Feb 02 10:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Best Linux distros | IT PRO | Feb 02 10:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827101780051779584 | Feb 02 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux distros https://t.co/f5tr2hkfUU | Feb 02 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux distros | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Best Linux distros https://t.co/f5tr2hkfUU https://t.co/tSdZzzsnuk | Feb 02 11:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827109554278236160 | Feb 02 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Lego Mindstorms EV3 robots can be controlled with an | Feb 02 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android app" https://t.co/SJ4Ibf0LnU (www.linux.com) | Feb 02 11:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arrive On Time With NTP -- Part 3: Secure Setup | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 02 11:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Trump's Supreme Court pick who used famous WikiLeaks...' | Feb 02 11:11 | |
| *schestowitz is now known as schestowitzhttps | Feb 02 11:21 | |
| *schestowitzhttps is now known as schestowitz | Feb 02 11:22 | |
| MinceR | http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/317355-travel-ban-sways-researchers-not-to-work-with-law-enforcement-cancel | Feb 02 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cybersecurity researchers halt work with law enforcement, cancel conferences in travel ban's wake | TheHill | Feb 02 11:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/OAgqrPoPDd | Feb 02 11:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827118502502739968 | Feb 02 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/OHrJKyOuAc | Feb 02 11:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827118508269989888 | Feb 02 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers https://t.co/C7T5Sc3UVY | Feb 02 11:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 11:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Given that @milo has historically justified violence...' | Feb 02 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DeplorableSheep @wikileaks @milo There is, and he incited...' | Feb 02 11:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@EaglesJesse @wikileaks His audience would use his words...' | Feb 02 11:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DevyDegaimer I don't think you're even remotely aware...' | Feb 02 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@DevyDegaimer I don't think you're even remotely...' | Feb 02 12:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Right now there is something similar happening...' | Feb 02 12:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '.@spinnumb @DeplorableSheep @wikileaks Milo is a hate preacher....' | Feb 02 12:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty Doing the labour for Tories. On...' | Feb 02 12:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty @BBCNews It will accelerate with #goldenDawnald...' | Feb 02 12:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/rodrigovlds/status/827137683340328961 | Feb 02 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I’ve Been | Feb 02 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @rodrigovlds Dreaming Of https://t.co/Xs29Zi7ygx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) | Feb 02 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Feb 02 12:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher I've Been Dreaming Of - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 02 12:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rodrigovlds favourited 'Simple Menu Launcher Is The KDE App Launcher...' | Feb 02 12:58 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/otgySvm.jpg | Feb 02 13:02 |
| MinceR | https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SyaEKSgM62rKw/giphy.gif | Feb 02 13:08 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out,...' | Feb 02 14:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'darktable 2.2.3 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Brings Subtraction...' | Feb 02 14:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out,...' | Feb 02 14:07 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: WTF? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | They killed a puppy? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | And then uploaded this? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | and if so, why even promote this crap? | Feb 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Wife saw it, very upset about that | Feb 02 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827167257063198720 | Feb 02 15:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827169733698940930 | Feb 02 15:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera | Feb 02 15:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Hands-On: A case for the Raspberry Pi Zero with camera https://t.co/WkmRnaY2oc https://t.co/Wwu1MR4w9k | Feb 02 15:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827169741739429889 | Feb 02 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live | Feb 02 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Your PC or Laptop https://t.co/q4Mp3IWzay | Feb 02 15:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AndEX Project Now Lets You Run Android 7.1.1 Nougat Live on Your PC or Laptop | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:02 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: this isn't 4chan, don't put s** like that in IRC ever again | Feb 02 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827170197488427010 | Feb 02 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | DiRT Rally Crashes On To Linux In March | Feb 02 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | DiRT Rally Crashes On To Linux In March - OMG! Ubuntu! | Feb 02 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827170853116854273 | Feb 02 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Game creation kit 'Construct 3' has a first preview, | Feb 02 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | including shots of it on Linux https://t.co/8RdVFyUStA | Feb 02 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 02 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Game creation kit 'Construct 3' has a first preview, including shots of it on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Feb 02 15:07 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Feb 02 15:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Feb 02 15:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calculate-linux.org | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released - Planet Calculate | Feb 02 15:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Feb 02 15:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ga0bmqhknW (news.opensuse.org) | Feb 02 15:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE News | Feb 02 15:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux https://t.co/REpNsKR09Y | Feb 02 15:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch Linux: The Simple Linux | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 02 15:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/n8RGGrUgdU' | Feb 02 15:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178299247861760 | Feb 02 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on | Feb 02 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AWS Marketplace, Azure https://t.co/GOnfjss3uR | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on AWS Marketplace, Azure | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: openSUSE Leap 42.2 Hits the Cloud, You Can Now Use It on AWS Marketplace, Azure https://t.co/GOnfjss3uR https://t.co/Yb22loh9LV | Feb 02 15:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Calculate Linux Desktop 17 Cinnamon released | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | From Food to Sofas: How Open Source is Changing the World | Feb 02 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Beyond Software https://t.co/xmX55NK6HG | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | From Food to Sofas: How Open Source is Changing the World Beyond Software | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Arch Linux: The Simple Linux https://t.co/r4zF9qQb1X | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Feb 02 15:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New systemd, Plasma 5.9 Arrive in Tumbleweed https://t.co/uJfMHANVe3 https://t.co/3TmZqXXHwS | Feb 02 15:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178350732914688 | Feb 02 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/aAVPQcCW0z | Feb 02 15:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 02 15:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827178556371378176 | Feb 02 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The Big Changes, Improvements Of Mesa 17.0 | Feb 02 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7RdFuQyEkd (www.phoronix.com) | Feb 02 15:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Big Changes, Improvements Of Mesa 17.0 - Phoronix | Feb 02 15:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Automating Software Testing on Linux SBCs | Feb 02 15:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/827180942368309248 | Feb 02 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/OteKwM94CO | Feb 02 15:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March | Feb 02 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2017 https://t.co/ceZeepqfr9 (www.gamasutra.com) ... | Feb 02 16:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Racing on the edge: DiRT Rally® comes to Linux on 2 March 2017 | Feb 02 16:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827197100979081218 | Feb 02 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux | Feb 02 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | laptop that can https://t.co/p7kAM4QCjy (www.pcworld.com) | Feb 02 16:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can | PCWorld | Feb 02 16:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux | Feb 02 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | laptop that can https://t.co/LR8WAZ6IaA | Feb 02 17:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can | Tux Machines | Feb 02 17:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The new Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition is the little Linux laptop that can https://t.co/LR8WAZ6IaA https://t.co/KoWtekWU2K | Feb 02 17:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More Android Leftovers https://t.co/U3sLM4ruSk | Feb 02 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 17:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released | Feb 02 17:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 2/2/2017: darktable 2.2.3, Krita 3.1.2 Released | Techrights | Feb 02 17:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 02 17:52 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/827217981063192576 | Feb 02 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now | Feb 02 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR | Feb 02 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 18:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer RC2 Is Out, Now Supports Linux Kernel 4.9 https://t.co/uromHmp8wR https://t.co/2uZPcDuICL | Feb 02 18:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827230501026934784 | Feb 02 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.7 https://t.co/0hNWbBKPqB (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 02 19:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.9.7 | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827230506022379520 | Feb 02 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Feb 02 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Tux Machines | Feb 02 19:30 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: orban? | Feb 02 19:41 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 02 19:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 02 19:41 |
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| MinceR | http://www.the-postillon.com/2017/01/border-wall-ikea.html | Feb 02 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.the-postillon.com | The Postillon: “Börder Wåll”: IKEA offers Trump an affordable solution | Feb 02 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | seen it | Feb 02 20:23 |
| MinceR | https://img.ifcdn.com/images/65debd2c25f84b4e54b17633bc5ce7087cd1580fb9825085dd9d750a1920485e_1.gif | Feb 02 20:41 |
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| MinceR | http://pvponline.com/comic/2017-01-27 | Feb 02 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pvponline.com | PVP - 2017-01-27 | Feb 02 21:44 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.bettershelter.org/product/ this is also ikea product. Really border wall for around camps of bettershelter you would call a do you want fries with that. | Feb 02 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bettershelter.org | Product : Better Shelter | Feb 02 21:50 | |
| MinceR | the one i linked was satire, though | Feb 02 21:59 |
| MinceR | (also, didn't account for assembly work and possibly delivery costs -- but then again, Agent Orange always said _he_ was going to build a wall, so he can do all that himself) | Feb 02 22:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it might be satire but one of ikea products are rapid deploy security walls. Some people who make satire fail to check what some companies in fact really make. | Feb 02 22:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DErurte4CE | Feb 02 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION" — A Bad Lip Reading - YouTube | Feb 02 22:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827289767146516480 | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Tools https://t.co/IQR13bGYAg | Feb 02 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security Updates, New Tools | Tux Machines | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security Updates, New Tools https://t.co/IQR13bGYAg https://t.co/EkxFUBK9CW | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827298062477307905 | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 02 23:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/5K4GfcizVy | Feb 02 23:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/5K4GfcizVy https://t.co/tXinNI9v4n | Feb 02 23:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827298069108584448 | Feb 02 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon | Feb 02 23:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/GRPinw6dvI | Feb 02 23:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great | Tux Machines | Feb 02 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/GRPinw6dvI https://t.co/5x0EACN6Uw | Feb 02 23:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314681387708416 | Feb 03 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Feb 03 00:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Tux Machines | Feb 03 00:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827314689298178048 | Feb 03 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for | Feb 03 00:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/e9SzkRYMMN | Feb 03 00:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Tux Machines | Feb 03 00:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/e9SzkRYMMN https://t.co/EYgHL26mxd | Feb 03 00:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol | Feb 03 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 00:38 | |
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| cubexyz | I really hope this is the last time I have to service this XP box | Feb 03 06:04 |
| cubexyz | going to try to get them to go for a chromebox | Feb 03 06:05 |
| cubexyz | they are still using some ancient corel draw version... 7 I think | Feb 03 06:06 |
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| cubexyz | just reading my notes here... I installed FC1 on May 12th, 2004 | Feb 03 06:14 |
| cubexyz | try to get them on chromebox or ummm, Mint 18.1 or something | Feb 03 06:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Politics aside, this is just funny - Album on Imgur | Feb 03 08:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why new Chromebooks make Android tablets completely | Feb 03 08:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | irrelevant https://t.co/qeJGBTGmwm (www.techradar.com) | Feb 03 08:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why new Chromebooks make Android tablets completely irrelevant | TechRadar | Feb 03 08:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How I Use Android: Material Podcast host and UX designer | Feb 03 08:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Yasmine Evjen https://t.co/jMsggPCIwG | Feb 03 08:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Use Android: Material Podcast host and UX designer Yasmine Evjen | Computerworld | Feb 03 08:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers | Feb 03 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | won’t get paid https://t.co/XKOIuy9uH3 (arstechnica.com) | Feb 03 08:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid | Ars Technica | Feb 03 08:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | won’t get paid https://t.co/8RmZurbwbG | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Game over for PS3 Linux settlement—judge concerned gamers won’t get paid | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS, and Windows https://t.co/T2uh4KYaku | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, macOS, and Windows | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Budget GNU/Linux Laptops https://t.co/tYo1wcdDzw | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Budget GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux Machines | Feb 03 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/oqMUWaETVT | Feb 03 08:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | First Tails beta release based on Stretch | Feb 03 08:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.7 https://t.co/3qh9ATdzgG (lwn.net) 4.4.46 | Feb 03 10:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Improving Debian Linux Package Management: Seven Tools | Feb 03 10:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-Focused Tails 2.10 Linux Includes Security | Feb 03 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updates, New Tools https://t.co/ZLrHnFezFU | Feb 03 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Tails 2.10 Linux Delivers Updated Security and Privacy Tools | Feb 03 10:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 03 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/ow0QWR6zXV | Feb 03 10:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 Improvements, Security Fixes | Feb 03 10:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon | Feb 03 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Spin, and It Looks Great https://t.co/f4Sz68zZs8 | Feb 03 10:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a Cinnamon Spin, and It Looks Great | Feb 03 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458185309126657 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla gives up on Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rz60l22iZv (arstechnica.com) | Feb 03 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Mozilla gives up on last vestiges of Firefox OS, lays off 50 | Ars Technica | Feb 03 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827458368793108480 | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for | Feb 03 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/M3CjbvASr6 | Feb 03 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Feb 03 10:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 10:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/i9Cp03jjYq | Feb 03 10:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Feb 03 10:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, | Feb 03 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | macOS, and Windows https://t.co/xjR7nDrN3E | Feb 03 10:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux, macOS, and Windows | Feb 03 10:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 10:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 | Feb 03 10:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Automated Testing Laboratory for Embedded Linux | Feb 03 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automated Testing Laboratory for Embedded Linux Distributions | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Feb 03 10:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827460761979076608 | Feb 03 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cossacks 3 for Linux finally has a release date and it's | Feb 03 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | close https://t.co/ywi7Lx8CY3 (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Feb 03 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cossacks 3 for Linux finally has a release date and it's close | GamingOnLinux | Feb 03 10:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 4 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users | Feb 03 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 4 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users - Make Tech Easier | Feb 03 10:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT | Feb 03 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) Linux Kernel 4.9.7 also | Feb 03 10:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS Is Yet Another Small Patch, Updates InfiniBand Drivers | Feb 03 10:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.9.7 Brings Updates to the Intel i915 and InfiniBand Drivers, More | Feb 03 10:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | NVIDIA 375.27.08 Vulkan Driver Released | Feb 03 10:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Distros for Mac Users and Everyone Else | Feb 03 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Distros for Mac Users and Everyone Else | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Development News: Rust 1.15, Seccomp, and High Priority | Feb 03 11:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Rust 1.15, Seccomp, and High Priority Projects List | Tux Machines | Feb 03 11:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827472255022153729 | Feb 03 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kontron launches Linux-friendly Kaby Lake COMs | Feb 03 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pPogPztx5H (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 03 11:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Kontron launches Linux-friendly Kaby Lake COMs | Feb 03 11:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@CarolineLucas @TheGreenParty Unless this is reformed, #brexit zealots...' | Feb 03 11:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | [Older] Best Linux Distributions To Try In 2017 | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Linux Distributions To Try In 2017 - LinuxAndUbuntu | Feb 03 12:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/wNQngFjZ2v | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Linux Distributions Again https://t.co/t6r3ArNNlV | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux and Graphics https://t.co/aSJEyXN0bI | Feb 03 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distributions Again | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827489588822171648 | Feb 03 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian and Ubuntu https://t.co/ysAQpIVeCn | Feb 03 12:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RaminNasibov favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT Linux Kernel 4.9.7...' | Feb 03 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS Is Yet Another Small Patch, Updates InfiniBand Drivers | Feb 03 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827494553301164034 | Feb 03 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Olimex Teres I is an open source, DIY laptop kit for $240 | Feb 03 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ef8vRYEzuU (liliputing.com) "Linux-based | Feb 03 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software" https://t.co/CCkAdpkmFZ (www.bit-tech.net) | Feb 03 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olimex Teres I is an open source, DIY laptop kit for $240 - Liliputing | Feb 03 12:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olimex announces Teres 1 open hardware laptop | bit-tech.net | Feb 03 12:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Devices https://t.co/3wNnJGYOE0 | Feb 03 12:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux Machines | Feb 03 12:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Developers Still Tracking Linux Kernel 4.10 for...' | Feb 03 13:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernel 4.4.46 LTS https://t.co/dKQWfFAyTT Linux Kernel 4.9.7...' | Feb 03 13:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux,...' | Feb 03 13:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 17 OS Now Has a...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships...' | Feb 03 13:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GIMP 2.8.20 Open-Source Image Editor Released for Linux,...' | Feb 03 13:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks This was pointed out some days ago...' | Feb 03 14:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE | Feb 03 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @renato_de_OZ Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol | Feb 03 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos | Tux Machines | Feb 03 15:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: KDE Plasma 5.9, Wine 2.0, and PulseAudio 10 Hit openSUSE Tumbleweed's Repos https://t.co/I711jqPnol https://t.co/HV1CEt8i5d | Feb 03 15:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @telesurenglish Guess who is holding the longer...' | Feb 03 15:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827538715669098496 | Feb 03 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in #Techrights https://t.co/4Hy2YoEc1a | Feb 03 15:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 03 15:36 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/windows-drm-files-used-to-decloak-tor-browser-users/ | Feb 03 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows DRM Files Used to Decloak Tor Browser Users | Feb 03 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in #Techrights https://t.co/4Hy2YoEc1a' | Feb 03 15:48 | |
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| cubexyz | going to give lsx one more look | Feb 03 18:41 |
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| cubexyz | arrgh, no cat... I keep forgetting | Feb 03 18:51 |
| cubexyz | damn you lsx | Feb 03 18:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tails 3.0 Anonymous Live OS Enters Beta, Ships with Linux | Feb 03 18:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE 4.9 and GNOME 3.22 https://t.co/oqMUWaETVT | Feb 03 18:58 |
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| cubexyz | it's rough going... no one seems to have any notes on it | Feb 03 19:06 |
| cubexyz | yuck... there's minimal but then there's too minimal | Feb 03 19:15 |
| cubexyz | even amigados without a hard drive was painful, and the floppy could hold 880K | Feb 03 19:16 |
| cubexyz | not 256K | Feb 03 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/827592277342220289 | Feb 03 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernel 3.12.70 Is a Big Patch with Over 220 | Feb 03 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE Improvements, Security Fixes https://t.co/ow0QWR6zXV | Feb 03 19:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 03 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Tux Machines | Feb 03 19:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 Nuclear Detonations that went WRONG | Top 5 Countdown - YouTube | Feb 03 19:47 | |
| schestowitz | idiots | Feb 03 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Like Trump | Feb 03 19:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek | Feb 03 20:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Helio P20 processor https://t.co/0G2JvTGCaQ | Feb 03 20:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor | Tux Machines | Feb 03 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek Helio P20 processor https://t.co/0G2JvTGCaQ https://t.co/JNzLGpUsA1 | Feb 03 20:19 | |
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| schestowitz | [18:51] <cubexyz> arrgh, no cat... I keep forgetting | Feb 03 21:20 |
| schestowitz | The command of the mammalian parasite? ;-) | Feb 03 21:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: there's a joke about tumblr and transfats being bad for consumption | Feb 03 21:22 |
| schestowitz | [20:14] <MinceR> https://i.reddituploads.com/769c46c0caad495ab0b7e0eada7d4412?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=e46f82d346b50decbe29182a65165168re | Feb 03 21:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks When both sides play dirty, namely spread...' | Feb 03 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@daviddoesfrance I was upset at this claim. As...' | Feb 03 21:54 | |
| MinceR | 03 222044 < schestowitz> The command of the mammalian parasite? ;-) | Feb 03 21:58 |
| MinceR | many humans? :> | Feb 03 21:58 |
| MinceR | also, dogs | Feb 03 21:58 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/AE6UASa.jpg | Feb 03 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: sounds familiar | Feb 03 22:59 |
| schestowitz | was the meaning of cracker something about whites in black dialect? | Feb 03 22:59 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 03 23:14 |
| MinceR | http://loltheists.com/?p=4206 | Feb 03 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loltheists.com | It says it right there in your bible. | Feb 03 23:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... UnLadylike Liberty! | Feb 04 00:40 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | How to talk about Trump using trumpspeak (and why you should) / Boing Boing | Feb 04 01:15 | |
| MinceR | https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/02/03/2118240/zero-day-windows-security-flaw-can-crash-systems-cause-bsods | Feb 04 01:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.slashdot.org | Zero-Day Windows Security Flaw Can Crash Systems, Cause BSODs - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/qfdua ] | Feb 04 01:20 | |
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| cubexyz | the windows flaws will never end | Feb 04 04:23 |
| cubexyz | today's Ken Thompson's birthday | Feb 04 04:26 |
| cubexyz | 74 | Feb 04 04:27 |
| cubexyz | Ritchie wasn't in good health and died in 2011 | Feb 04 04:28 |
| cubexyz | trying to get more customers off of windows... | Feb 04 04:34 |
| cubexyz | $DEITY knows what is in the bowels of windows | Feb 04 04:35 |
| cubexyz | ok, I'm starting to see AM2 socket stuff go bad so I thought I' | Feb 04 04:44 |
| cubexyz | I | Feb 04 04:44 |
| cubexyz | I'd do a recap on longevity... | Feb 04 04:44 |
| cubexyz | almost all the 2001 and 2002 era laptops I've seen have gone bad in some way | Feb 04 04:45 |
| cubexyz | even some of the 2004 ones | Feb 04 04:45 |
| cubexyz | not all, but almost all | Feb 04 04:45 |
| cubexyz | a few of the HP ones still work with minor maintainance | Feb 04 04:46 |
| cubexyz | on the other side of the coin I've got multiple P3 desktop/tower systems that work fine | Feb 04 04:47 |
| cubexyz | gigabyte, tyan, and one QDI, a dell(!), and IBM 300GL | Feb 04 04:48 |
| cubexyz | can't merely be a coincidence... | Feb 04 04:49 |
| cubexyz | also one of my customers still is using a TV from 1972 :) | Feb 04 04:49 |
| cubexyz | I'll find out which one | Feb 04 04:50 |
| cubexyz | some of the pcchips and jetway motherboards were not great... pcchips in particular was pretty bad | Feb 04 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827741486670237696 | Feb 04 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The February 2017 issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Feb 04 04:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MapQsWAj3j (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 04:57 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/zworykin-tv-1929.jpg | Feb 04 05:42 |
| amarsh04 | I met Dennis Ritchie but didn't actually meet Ken Thompson although I heard him at a conference | Feb 04 05:50 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: what is this? | Feb 04 05:52 |
| cubexyz | very early tv set | Feb 04 05:52 |
| cubexyz | I was trying to find the oldest electronic tv | Feb 04 05:52 |
| amarsh04 | oldest pc hardware I'm running is a DPT2044W SCSI controller, cable and IBM SCSI hard disk from 1998 | Feb 04 05:54 |
| cubexyz | almost 20 years, pretty good | Feb 04 05:54 |
| amarsh04 | lssci: [0:0:6:0] disk IBM DCAS-34330W S65A /dev/sda | Feb 04 05:54 |
| cubexyz | what make of motherboard? | Feb 04 05:55 |
| amarsh04 | and lspci 05:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartCache/Raid I-IV Controller (rev 02) | Feb 04 05:55 |
| amarsh04 | running a secondhand ASUS that replaced a couple of others including a BIOSTAR 440BX board that was bought as the same time as SCSI controller and disk | Feb 04 05:56 |
| cubexyz | ah, not a 1998 motherboard then | Feb 04 05:56 |
| amarsh04 | this one is A8V-MX | Feb 04 05:56 |
| amarsh04 | last BIOS update was in 2005 | Feb 04 05:57 |
| cubexyz | socket 939, bah :) | Feb 04 05:57 |
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| amarsh04 | linux installation is from June 2004, upgraded, migrated to other hardware but not reinstalled | Feb 04 05:58 |
| amarsh04 | and after the Radeon 9200se video card died I was able to get a Radeon 9550 | Feb 04 06:01 |
| cubexyz | I'm curious about computer longevity, it's kind of a hobby | Feb 04 06:02 |
| amarsh04 | in the making of for the movie "The Dish", a lot of the 1969 era equipment still worked | Feb 04 06:04 |
| amarsh04 | my Telebit fastblazer modem had its telephone line interface circuitry fried by a lightning strike in November 2014 | Feb 04 06:06 |
| amarsh04 | Fastblazer 8840 | Feb 04 06:07 |
| amarsh04 | the ADSL2+ modem online at the same time survived | Feb 04 06:09 |
| cubexyz | what did they used to call those big satellite dishes? BUDs :) | Feb 04 06:09 |
| amarsh04 | an AR7 based device that was bought in December 2008 | Feb 04 06:09 |
| cubexyz | I don't like the idea of replacing my computer every 5 years | Feb 04 06:10 |
| amarsh04 | new pc is from January 2009 | Feb 04 06:11 |
| cubexyz | the Tyan S1832DL is the PC longevity champ | Feb 04 06:11 |
| cubexyz | that one is also 1998 | Feb 04 06:11 |
| amarsh04 | what chipset? | Feb 04 06:12 |
| cubexyz | 440BX | Feb 04 06:13 |
| amarsh04 | ok | Feb 04 06:13 |
| cubexyz | I'm still learning about it :) | Feb 04 06:13 |
| amarsh04 | I didn't like the 384 MiB RAM limit | Feb 04 06:14 |
| amarsh04 | on the 440BX motherboard I had | Feb 04 06:14 |
| amarsh04 | and only 3 PCI slots | Feb 04 06:14 |
| cubexyz | there's like two parts: northbridge 82371EB and southbridge PIIX4e | Feb 04 06:16 |
| cubexyz | I guess both together are called 440BX | Feb 04 06:17 |
| cubexyz | I think 1 gigabyte of ram was the limit on that one | Feb 04 06:17 |
| cubexyz | 5 PCI slots | Feb 04 06:18 |
| amarsh04 | I liked how the VAX11/780 and successors could take 4GiB RAM if you could afford it | Feb 04 06:22 |
| amarsh04 | having used VAX11 assembly language (Macro32), there was no way I was prepared to learn x86 assembly language | Feb 04 06:22 |
| cubexyz | I had no idea VAX11/780 could take that much memory | Feb 04 06:23 |
| cubexyz | I thought 8 megs was the limit | Feb 04 06:23 |
| amarsh04 | maybe for the VAX11/780 | Feb 04 06:24 |
| amarsh04 | VAX 8600 was the biggest one that I'd used | Feb 04 06:24 |
| amarsh04 | and that might have had 12 or 16 MiB RAM, the 11/780's that I used had less than 2 MiB RAM | Feb 04 06:25 |
| cubexyz | oh wait a sec | Feb 04 06:26 |
| amarsh04 | sorry, I haven't looked up the limits of the various VAX computers | Feb 04 06:26 |
| cubexyz | you can get a MS780-E memory controller | Feb 04 06:26 |
| cubexyz | that goes up to 128 megs | Feb 04 06:26 |
| amarsh04 | last VAX at Adelaide University was retired around 2001 or 2002 | Feb 04 06:27 |
| cubexyz | only ones I can simulate are Vax-11/780 and MicroVax 3900 | Feb 04 06:27 |
| cubexyz | yeah, I can run Unix v8 on the simulated Vax-11 | Feb 04 06:27 |
| amarsh04 | back in 1991 I was using DEC Ultrix on MicroVAX-II | Feb 04 06:28 |
| amarsh04 | and in 1994 I met Jon "Mad Dog" Hall | Feb 04 06:29 |
| cubexyz | I should fire up v8 and see if I can get it to run with more than 8 megs of ram | Feb 04 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827765492257607680 | Feb 04 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 04 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DC7FpO5oRK (linuxgizmos.com) | Feb 04 06:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | IoT gateway runs Ubuntu on Apollo Lake | Feb 04 06:29 | |
| cubexyz | ok, simh can emulate the 11/780, which supports 128 megs of ram | Feb 04 06:33 |
| cubexyz | so yes, possible | Feb 04 06:33 |
| amarsh04 | interesting, thanks for checking | Feb 04 06:34 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if anyone still runs Vax | Feb 04 06:35 |
| amarsh04 | I also remember using some flavour of *nix on a 80386 based hardware branded Pyramid back around 1991 also | Feb 04 06:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Samsung is testing an Android smartphone with a MediaTek | Feb 04 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Helio P20 processor https://t.co/Fff5MttoXZ | Feb 04 06:36 |
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| cubexyz | yeah there was some pretty early Unixes for PCs | Feb 04 06:36 |
| cubexyz | Venix and Xenix were two I used | Feb 04 06:36 |
| cubexyz | a pity I don't still have my original 286 | Feb 04 06:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | "The Wine development release 2.1" | Feb 04 06:38 |
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| cubexyz | there's NuVax 3200... replicates a Vax | Feb 04 06:39 |
| cubexyz | eventually companies won't be able to find parts for their ancient Vaxes | Feb 04 06:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Mesa has a patch from a Valve developer to help ARK | Feb 04 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Survival Evolved run on the open source drivers | Feb 04 06:40 |
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| amarsh04 | my original pc was a 286-10 with 640 kiB RAM | Feb 04 06:40 |
| amarsh04 | NEAT chipset | Feb 04 06:40 |
| amarsh04 | even ended up buying an 80287 chip for it | Feb 04 06:41 |
| cubexyz | I kept my amiga 500 from that era... but not any of the PCs | Feb 04 06:47 |
| cubexyz | hard to get nostalgic for a 286 with hercules graphics :) | Feb 04 06:47 |
| amarsh04 | hehehe | Feb 04 06:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Important Kernel Updates Patch 7 Vulnerabilities in All | Feb 04 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supported Ubuntu OSes https://t.co/oqDO9vrxql | Feb 04 06:48 |
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| cubexyz | also expanded/extended memory wasn't fun to program on | Feb 04 06:48 |
| amarsh04 | and 64 kiB memory segments | Feb 04 06:50 |
| cubexyz | DEC messed up big-time | Feb 04 06:50 |
| cubexyz | we really should be running descendents of microvax | Feb 04 06:51 |
| amarsh04 | around 2002-2003 I also was able to use SparcStation 10 computers, I remember downloading gcc-3.2 then using it to compile gcc-3.3 on it | Feb 04 06:53 |
| amarsh04 | 50 MHz CPU clock (-: | Feb 04 06:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/yN8LlYkZf7 | Feb 04 06:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux-releases.blogspot.com | 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. | Feb 04 06:55 | |
| cubexyz | openbsd supports alpha, armv7, hppa, loongson and sparc64 | Feb 04 06:56 |
| cubexyz | old stuff like sun4 got dropped a while back | Feb 04 06:57 |
| cubexyz | I think vax was also dropped | Feb 04 06:57 |
| amarsh04 | when no-one is left to contribute gcc ports, the end is nigh | Feb 04 06:58 |
| amarsh04 | remembering how the Kermit developer couldn't keep a Data General Eclipse running for maintaining ports | Feb 04 06:59 |
| cubexyz | well hardware and software emulation could keep things going maybe | Feb 04 07:01 |
| cubexyz | I still hack on Unix v5 but I wouldn't try to keep a real PDP-11 working | Feb 04 07:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine 2.1 Development Release https://t.co/wUP4Poov9f | Feb 04 07:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 4MLinux 20.3 STABLE released. https://t.co/PoeUgUhhoJ | Feb 04 07:03 |
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| cubexyz | vax was only discontinued fairly recently on openbsd | Feb 04 07:04 |
| cubexyz | so not _too_ hard to run 5.8 or older on your microvax | Feb 04 07:05 |
| cubexyz | probably too slow for most people | Feb 04 07:07 |
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| cubexyz | google is dropping some support from chrome 53 and older | Feb 04 07:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived | Feb 04 07:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: It's Become Much Easier To Run Steam On FreeBSD-Derived TrueOS https://t.co/3dss6mQWAt https://t.co/GrnjOZuW9i | Feb 04 07:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 10 Best Linux Task Managers https://t.co/iODSX4uF2A | Feb 04 07:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Netgear router vulnerability and critical bug in Linux | Feb 04 08:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | app: Security news IT leaders need to know | Feb 04 08:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Privacy-focused Linux-based operating system Tails 3.0 | Feb 04 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | will drop 32-bit support https://t.co/RFWN1Tgh8R | Feb 04 08:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | European Bioinformatics Institute chooses Red Hat | Feb 04 08:26 |
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| XRevan86 | Sebsebsebb: hi | Feb 04 14:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why choose something new? : linux | Feb 04 14:45 | |
| XRevan86 | For some reason I see distrohopping as a sign of a newbie. | Feb 04 14:46 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Arsenal If Wenger's surname wasn't Arsene, Arsenal would...' | Feb 04 14:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827891522460868608 | Feb 04 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now Support | Feb 04 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest Kobo Device https://t.co/1zEgMaWr6V | Feb 04 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.noobslab.com) | Feb 04 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Calibre eBook Library and Editor and Library Now Support Latest Kobo Device - NoobsLab | Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps | Feb 04 14:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827894425875517440 | Feb 04 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "the brains behind multi effects pedal, MOD, which runs | Feb 04 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Linux and other FLOSS software" | Feb 04 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0ThPrs0sFL (libremusicproduction.com) | Feb 04 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libremusicproduction.com | LMP Asks #22: An interview with Gianfranco Ceccolini | Libre Music Production | Feb 04 15:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827896066347524096 | Feb 04 15:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conky Alternative Weather Widget "Cumulus" Available For | Feb 04 15:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint https://t.co/RZzhUvNpWP | Feb 04 15:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Conky Alternative Weather Widget "Cumulus" Available For Ubuntu/Linux Mint - NoobsLab | Ubuntu/Linux News, Reviews, Tutorials, Apps | Feb 04 15:08 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I'm meeting Richard Stallman today. What would YOU want to ask Stallman? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qfgx2 ] | Feb 04 15:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827896547316731904 | Feb 04 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Replicant 6.0 development updates https://t.co/Yjx1FlOKNL | Feb 04 15:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.replicant.us | Replicant 6.0 development updates | Replicant | Feb 04 15:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827903354202370050 | Feb 04 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | This is why I love linux, hundreds tabs opens, tons of | Feb 04 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | programs, RAM is full but my swap on SSD makes it | Feb 04 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | seamless!! https://t.co/5kdktA22WI (www.reddit.com) | Feb 04 15:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | This is why I love linux, hundreds tabs opens, tons of programs, RAM is full but my swap on SSD makes it seamless!! No crashes, no hangups, it's completely responsive! : linux | Feb 04 15:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827905116565078024 | Feb 04 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "goes by the name ZeroPhone. It is an open source | Feb 04 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartphone that’s powered by Raspberry Pi Zero." | Feb 04 15:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techviral.com | ZeroPhone — An Open Source, Linux-powered Smartphone Is Here | Feb 04 15:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Disgaea 2 is Now Available on Linux | Feb 04 15:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Disgaea 2 is Now Available on Linux – Boiling Steam | Feb 04 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908737524445187 | Feb 04 15:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Billy Bass, Alexa and a Raspberry Pi | Feb 04 15:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827908970392252416 | Feb 04 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Publishing the Data of our Last Linux Gamers Survey | Feb 04 16:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Say_Non_Now/status/827914277013037056 | Feb 04 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Say_Non_Now: @schestowitz So now the media is going to be the 4th estate again after being the government's mouthpiece? | Feb 04 16:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915001503576070 | Feb 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/ZKZSt5FSjp | Feb 04 16:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915003437015040 | Feb 04 16:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games for GNU/Linux https://t.co/zBxLoeLb6s | Feb 04 16:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 04 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827915007941750784 | Feb 04 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/VS0S1xyPVH | Feb 04 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Feb 04 16:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@LFC Liverpoll is finished for the season.' | Feb 04 16:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@LFC Liverpool is finished for the season. Losing...' | Feb 04 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931483494969344 | Feb 04 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/7Jjzgzl2lN | Feb 04 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:29 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recv failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/98264?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ) | Feb 04 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931488716939265 | Feb 04 17:29 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines saw that tweetby @tuxmachines too | Feb 04 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827931487118962689 | Feb 04 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Phones with Freedom https://t.co/QkJhCTqEqO | Feb 04 17:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Phones with Freedom | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/827932721808805890 | Feb 04 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 4/2/2017: Tails for 64-bit Processors, Wine 2.1 | Feb 04 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development https://t.co/aULoj7nWiM (techrights.org) | Feb 04 17:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/2/2017: Tails for 64-bit Processors, Wine 2.1 Development | Techrights | Feb 04 17:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Feb 04 17:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu and Derivatives | Tux Machines | Feb 04 17:59 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1792/ | Feb 04 18:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.9.8 https://t.co/NGqthx8l03 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Feb 04 19:55 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/op-ed-when-marketers-drive-microsofts-0day-exploit-communications-we-all-lose/ | Feb 04 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Op-ed: Windows 10 0day exploit goes wild, and so do Microsoft marketers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/qfi72 ] | Feb 04 21:07 | |
| cubexyz | Microsoft truly sucks | Feb 04 21:08 |
| cubexyz | had to deal with them directly just recently | Feb 04 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | CERT reported on a severely critical security vulnerability in Windows 10, so Ars Technica emailed MSFT aand got a reply from a nameless individual that users should stick to Windows 10 and Edge, even though Windows 10 is as vulnerable as any other supported version and the exploit doesn't even require use of a web browser. | Feb 04 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | MSFT continued that "only Windows has a commitment to customer safety". | Feb 04 21:09 |
| cubexyz | windows 10 is just garbage | Feb 04 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Also, that they have a proactive response to security issues, even though no patch is available. | Feb 04 21:10 |
| cubexyz | windows 10 had a cert advisory of 10 (maximum in volnerability scoring system), lol | Feb 04 21:10 |
| cubexyz | oh then downgraded to a mere 7.8 | Feb 04 21:11 |
| cubexyz | so an attacker can trigger a big fat BSOD | Feb 04 21:11 |
| cubexyz | it's a zero day in the SMB service | Feb 04 21:13 |
| cubexyz | shouldn't be difficult to block outbound SMB connections, but still... | Feb 04 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I posted that to Facebook, adding: | Feb 04 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, a comparable Linux kernel bug would have been patched by now and you could upgrade just the kernel package to fix the problem, and any Linux distribution would have 2-3 previous kernels installed and available in the boot menu in case you get a bad upgrade and can't start your computer. | Feb 04 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft forces you to take in "mega patches" that attempt to fix dozens of bugs at a time, and if your computer doesn't boot and you get a Blue Screen of Death instead, maybe you have to format the entire drive and reinstall Windows. :P | Feb 04 21:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really I am not surprised history of samba breaking windows is a old one. | Feb 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | As an aside, even though Apple usually does mega patches, you don't hear about widespread failures, but that's probably because they never have more than a handful of supported Macs to test them on. | Feb 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's approach doesn't work because there are hundreds of PC models released every year from dozens of manufacturers, so MSFT uses "telemetry" data and when they break a few thousand systems they can shut off the update to those models, but that doesn't help any of those people recover. | Feb 04 21:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://github.com/adobe/node-smb-server Not quite a simple as one would hope its very simple to remote exploit to execute code could run own custom SMB server/client on machine inside your network. | Feb 04 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - adobe/node-smb-server: A 100% JavaScript implementation of the SMB file sharing protocol. | Feb 04 21:19 | |
| cubexyz | I'm worried that microsoft is going to axe updates for XP completely | Feb 04 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/us/politics/visa-ban-trump-judge-james-robart.html?_r=0 | Feb 04 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - New York Times | Feb 04 21:19 | |
| cubexyz | so I asked microsoft if there was a backdoor to bypass activation, I thought it was reasonable | Feb 04 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | A federal judge in Washington state has issued a nationwide injunction to stop Trump's entire immigration executive order. | Feb 04 21:20 |
| cubexyz | that didn't go well (as you can imagine) | Feb 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Trump is furious. | Feb 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | I still would advise not leaving the US if you're here on any kind of immigrant visa. There's no telling what a higher court will do and if you leave now, you may not be allowed back in in another week. | Feb 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | I still would advise not leaving the US if you're here on any kind of immigrant visa. There's no telling what a higher court will do and if you leave now, you may not be allowed back in in another week. | Feb 04 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Feb 04 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, there's no telling what Adolf Trumpler's brownshirt minions at the DHS or CBP will do. Some are ignoring our court system. They should be held in contempt and arrested, but so far, the judges aren't doing that. | Feb 04 21:23 |
| cubexyz | well the future is going to be interesting | Feb 04 21:23 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's a big problem with XP and changing the motherboard | Feb 04 21:25 |
| cubexyz | I had to go through Microsoft's stupid robot system... it was very painful | Feb 04 21:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a built in back door to windows XP. Particular volume license keys and windows machines don't check if they are valid or not with XP. | Feb 04 21:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and most of those keys have already leaked. | Feb 04 21:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: also people don't notice that even with Windows 10 on dell and the like the case has one license value on it but the installed OS on all the dell for a particular version of windows is all one single key. | Feb 04 21:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes that one single key is not the key on the box. | Feb 04 21:31 |
| cubexyz | I'm worried that microsoft could just blacklist a license key | Feb 04 21:33 |
| oiaohm | Dell license keys lets black list 200 million installs thank you. | Feb 04 21:35 |
| oiaohm | HP and so on are just as bad. | Feb 04 21:35 |
| cubexyz | M$ is ties the license key to the hardware | Feb 04 21:37 |
| cubexyz | changed the motherboard... had to re-activate | Feb 04 21:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Pre-installation << the windows XP keys are sitting on wikipedia. | Feb 04 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | System Locked Pre-installation - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qfiam ] | Feb 04 21:38 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: hardware makers making mass volumes of systems like being able to just clone image install. | Feb 04 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | The TSA isn't allowed to hire anyone. I wonder how all these idiots who voted Trump will feel by the summer when they have to spend four hours in line at the airport both ways to take their family to fucking Disney. | Feb 04 22:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/813472/flying-out-of-ph-be-at-airport-4-hours-early only 4 hours long? | Feb 04 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsinfo.inquirer.net | Flying out of PH? Be at airport 4 hours early | Inquirer News [ http://ur1.ca/qfifm ] | Feb 04 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't understand how Disney World makes billions every year. | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | There was a time when people found this entertaining? | Feb 04 22:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: insanity would be if it gets to 12 hours long so you waste a day at each end. | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I liked Jim Gaffigan on Disney. | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Then there's my favorite ride. The air conditioned shuttle bus back to the hotel." | Feb 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | "I stood in line for an hour to ride the Dumbo ride. I realized that I was the dumbo. There's just gonna be a guy up there with a mirror going 'Dumbo! Dumbo!". | Feb 04 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Now you know why dad was always angry. 'How can I spend an enormous amount of money, be miserable, and listen to the entire family complaining anyway. Disney! Yay!" | Feb 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | "I hope you're happy, kids. It was this or college!" | Feb 04 22:18 |
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| oiaohm | Really I guess disney has to be better than movie world was here in Australia when it first opened. | Feb 04 22:18 |
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